Neil deGrasse Tyson, SEC Preview With Andy Staples, And NFL Week 3 Preview

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Speaker 3 On today's part in my take, we have Neil deGrasse Tyson. Long time coming.
Great conversation with the smartest man that's ever appeared on this show. Apologies to Mr.
Portnoy.

Speaker 3 Neil deGrasse Tyson on the show. Great conversation about space, God knows what, just being smart, being smarter than us.
We also have our good friend Andy Staples. Little SEC preview.

Speaker 3 College football finally feels like it's fully back this weekend with the big boys playing. We also had some great news in college football today, which we'll get to.

Speaker 3 Weekend preview, NFL picks, can't lose parlay. All of it is coming up in a second.

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Today is Friday, September 25th.

Speaker 3 And PFT, I feel stupid because I should have seen the Fitzmagic game coming. Week three, prime time,

Speaker 3 Dolphins, Jaguars, gross, gross, gross. Of course, Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to ball out and probably give himself another, what? Three years, three years on his contract?

Speaker 3 17 for 19 at the time of this taping, 160 yards, two touchdowns. We're taping with eight minutes left.
It's Fitzmagic season.

Speaker 3 They should make a rule that whoever drafts the highest quarterback has to start Fitzpatrick for at least three games at the start of the season.

Speaker 3 So, like Trevor Lawrence, when he goes to the Eagles, Fitzpatrick should have to start for them. Second highest quarterback.

Speaker 3 The first highest quarterback needs to go wherever Tyrod Taylor is so that he can lose his job to either the quarterback or a needle in his heart. Yeah, getting a shot.

Speaker 3 He got nick caged from The Rock. He got like an adrenaline shot, hyperdermic needle.
I don't want to. But directly, what?

Speaker 3 I just remember that you haven't seen Pulp Fiction. I haven't seen Pulp Fiction.
I mean, come on, dude. I missed it.

Speaker 3 The reference there is Pulp Fiction.

Speaker 3 I know the references. I know the references.

Speaker 3 But in The Rock, I know The Rock, but he stabs himself. Ah.
Yeah. No, but then Pulp Fiction, he gets stabbed in the heart.
There's the other adrenaline.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So I guess it's a common thing in late 90s action drama films.
So yeah, it's unfortunate, but Tyrod Taylor, he will be starting. I guess he'll go to Philadelphia next year.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then Trevor Lawrence. And then who do you think is the number two pick, the second best quarterback coming out this year? Oh,

Speaker 3 it's actually... You ready for this? Yeah.

Speaker 3 His name's Trey Lance. Trey Lance.
Trey Lance. That is a big time.

Speaker 3 Actually, it's probably going to be Justin Fields, but Trey Lance is going to be a first-rounder probably.

Speaker 3 North Dakota State. North Dakota State is playing a single game just so Trey Lance can have a show off.
Yeah, Trey Lance, he's a sophomore, right? Yeah. Yeah, so he's awesome.

Speaker 3 He is the shit.

Speaker 3 Trey Lance

Speaker 3 to this mock draft I'm reading right now has Trey Lance late in the first round to the Saints. Okay, so.
How many quarterbacks are the Saints going to have? I don't know, all of them.

Speaker 3 Collect them all. But Trey Lance, was he the guy that I think he didn't throw a single incompletion in the national championship game last year? I love Trey Lance.
Is that the game?

Speaker 3 Oh, and then we just had the ultimate Fitzpatrick play where he just threw the ball off a line and then caught it himself and ran. Amazing.

Speaker 3 So Thursday night in general, we should have seen this coming because

Speaker 3 Thursday night is just a Fitzmagic game, even if Fitzpatrick isn't playing. Right.
There's always one quarterback or something weird happens. Yeah, let's see him.
That is such

Speaker 3 the ultimate Fitzpatrick play. Right off of the face mask, catches it for a three-yard gain.
He's probably like his third highest receiver this game. The beard is flowing.

Speaker 3 The humidity is working on it. Minshew looks.
He doesn't look like Minshew tonight. I think he just game recognizes game.

Speaker 3 Like Minshew, if he had his way, 15 years from now, he has Ryan Fitzpatrick's career.

Speaker 3 I feel bad for him too because he missed a wide open Conley for a sure touchdown and the booth just spent, I don't know, 10 minutes being like, you're going to, Troy Hickman just said, you could play for 20 years and never have a guy this over.

Speaker 3 He was open by like 15 yards. Yes.

Speaker 3 It was ridiculous. But I will say this about Minshew, even though he's not playing really well, he still looks decisive when he plays, when he makes mistakes.
Decisively bad.

Speaker 3 And that's all you can hope for. In life, that's actually a good life lesson.

Speaker 3 As long as you look like you know what you're doing and you're decisive when you do it, people will assume that you have your act together. Like Rex Grossman was a good example of that.

Speaker 3 He always like, he never hesitated when he threw an interception. Yeah.
Yeah, you just have to, you have to be like, I can throw it anywhere at any time. Yeah.
Who cares if there's someone there?

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying? Like when you see somebody...

Speaker 3 And they might be the wrongest person ever, but when they say things confidently enough, you're like, yeah, that person, like Mel Kuiper, for example. It's Neil DeVass Tyson.

Speaker 3 We're about to have him on. Mel Kuyper gets maybe 10% of his picks correctly, but he is so decisive and he will yell at you if you disagree with him that he's made an entire career out of it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a preview of the Neil deGrasse Tyson interview. We asked him if he ever says, like, I don't know.
And his answer was essentially like, yeah, to this one question that no one knows.

Speaker 3 He just answers everything that he knows. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, in Thursday night, I've picked up, I think there's a trend emerging here. All Grudens hate wearing the face masks.
Well, they wear them, but they wear them like around like a chin strap. Yep.

Speaker 3 And so John got fined, what, $100,000, which is

Speaker 3 1% of his salary this year. And, yeah, I just think that for Grudens, Grudens should not be forced to wear masks.

Speaker 3 They're too beautiful. You can't cover up those masks.
That should kick the shit out of coronavirus anyway. So we're going to get to our preview.

Speaker 3 We have to get through a little bit of news beforehand. So where do we want to start?

Speaker 3 Coward playing the hits? I love Colin Coward. Like, this is

Speaker 3 King State Kings. People were very mad, but I asked you this.

Speaker 3 Colin Coward did his Carson Wentz backwards hat, not a franchise quarterback, even wore an Eagles hat and showed how stupid he looks with a backwards hat.

Speaker 3 But like, if you go to a concert, you want to hear the hits. Yes.
You don't want to hear the album they're working, the new album they're trying to put out there, the new material.

Speaker 3 You want to hear the hits. Colin Coward, when you watch his show, you want to hear him tell everyone that if a quarterback puts on their hat backwards, they're immediately garbage.

Speaker 3 Yes, and I think we're actually the ones getting played by getting mad about it.

Speaker 3 Oh, I'm not mad. Yeah, if you're still getting mad at Colin Coward for doing this bit, that's the reason why this bit exists in the first place

Speaker 3 for turning it backwards. As a matter of fact, I actually, I think, Colin, I think all sports radio talk show hosts should wear shirts and ties.
Enough of this unbuttoned top thing.

Speaker 3 I think you look unprofessional when you do it. I would rather listen to Max Kellerman be wildly incorrect than somebody that doesn't look like...
I I can almost see Colin Coward's nipples right now.

Speaker 3 It looks like your collarbone is swallowing your nipple like a sinkhole. I'll go one further, and I'll say that I am a leader in this industry.

Speaker 3 All sports media journalists, what do we even call, is Coward even a journalist? All sports media people

Speaker 3 must admit when they dye their hair.

Speaker 6 Coward. Thank you for your service.

Speaker 3 Yes, coward. You fucking coward.
Yeah, no, it's crazy that people get mad about this. I actually, it's a stupidity test.

Speaker 3 Like, if you get actually upset at Colin Coward doing the backwards hat bit, you are a moron. Yeah, when he first did it, it was like, what is this guy talking about?

Speaker 3 If he stopped doing it, that's when you know that there's a problem because he's got some takes that he's cooking up that are wildly problematic. Do you think, so,

Speaker 3 like, did someone fuck Coward's wife with a backwards hat on? I think a lot of people did. What happens if his daughter has a boyfriend who wears a backwards hat?

Speaker 3 Oh, I guarantee you that he has backwards. Because it's deep.
It's deep-seated. Yes.
Like, he sees a backwards backwards hat and he's fade on sight.

Speaker 3 Maybe he just a big fan of the sun and he respects the sun. Use that brim.
The good Lord gave you a bill on that cap for a reason.

Speaker 3 So yeah, good job by Coward. So the other thing we had to talk about, Pac-12 is back.
Mountain West is back. Everything is back.
Everything is great.

Speaker 3 And on top of all that, bowl games this year, you don't need to be over 500. Every single team is eligible.
I hope that they make 200 bulls.

Speaker 3 That's too many because there's not that many teams playing.

Speaker 3 I hope they make the maximum amount of bowls, even if it's like a bunch of teams that have one win, have them play all together, like in a just a on the same field at the same time.

Speaker 3 It's like Midnight Madness when they used to play, you know, they'd have college basketball for 24 hours straight. Give us a Midnight Madness of bowl games.

Speaker 3 And the worst, the shittier the team, the better. You know, it can be thank you to football fans night where they play all those games and they do them on local high school fields.
Yes. Perfect.

Speaker 3 Perfect. Well, except Rutgers, you're not eligible.
No. I just want to make the team.
Bulligable. Really? Greg Siano, Bull eligible.
Eligible. The haters said it would never happen.

Speaker 3 They're all eligible. Glad to be on the right side of history.
Let everyone be eligible.

Speaker 3 And then the last thing we had to talk about before we get to our NFL preview,

Speaker 3 basketball. So we're going to actually update who wins the Lakers' Nuggets game at the end of the show after the interviews.
The Lakers are going to win by six and a half, if I have my way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then Hank,

Speaker 3 the Celtics.

Speaker 3 You got heroed. Yeah.
You worried? Badger for life. Well, Mr.
I am a bucket. He is a bucket.
Yeah. You doubted him.
You shouldn't have. I didn't doubt him.
I didn't even really consider him a factor.

Speaker 3 So I guess that's doubt. It's just like, who is this guy? Oh, it's Duncan Robinson.
No, it's Tyler Hero dropping 40 on the Celtics.

Speaker 3 Baby goat. I love it.
Jake. Oh, Hank's.
Just a kid. So Hank's struggling right now because Jake whooped his ass in ping pong and is whooping his ass the heater, whooping the Celtics ass.

Speaker 3 So he's dealing with

Speaker 3 Tyler Hoat.

Speaker 3 On aggregate, it's actually 441 to 441. And technically, you are right.
Tomorrow night is another game, so the series is not over. I think the Celtics could still win in seven.

Speaker 3 Maybe if Bam's

Speaker 3 wrist falls off? Yeah, if his left wrist falls off. Celtics have been in every game.
They've been making mistakes. Like,

Speaker 3 they just had a million turnovers in the beginning of the fourth quarter. But they could have won that game easily.

Speaker 3 If Jimmy Butler flashes back to 2016, Jimmy Butler, then yes, but that's not the player that we're dealing with right now, Hank.

Speaker 3 I just have to hope, you know, sometimes I insinuate that the league might be rigged, and I just have to hope that maybe it's rigged for you. You're right, right.

Speaker 3 I have to hope that that's the case. He does not want Lakers,

Speaker 3 right? Well, no, that's not what that's. Okay, I got you.
I'm hoping that that's the case. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 LeBron, the Lakers have rigged it because they complained, the officially complained to the NBA that LeBron isn't getting enough fouls called. And look at that.
He has,

Speaker 3 I think, like six fouls, free throw trips tonight.

Speaker 3 I also thought there was like a dress code, and he's wearing two different colored shoes, which just seems illegal. What is it? This coward take?

Speaker 3 No, that's just that's just not. I don't like my players with two.
I don't think they are two different colored shoes. I think, oh, they are, yeah, they are.
They fully are.

Speaker 3 I thought it was one of those, like, the inside and the outside. Wow.
All right, I'm with you. That's illegal.

Speaker 3 I like it when players wear the neon shoes because it just reminds me of NBA Jam when you're on turbo mode. I always assume that you're faster than everybody else.
Yes, yes, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 Turbo shoes. Um, okay, let's do our weekend preview.

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Speaker 3 All right, let's do our weekend preview. Looks like the Dolphin.
Oh, no. God, Fitzpatrick, I love that guy.
I shouldn't have doubted him. I shouldn't have doubted him.
All right.

Speaker 3 Great uniform game for the Jaguars, too. And you know what? A surprisingly uncandy-ass version of the Miami Dolphins.
Yes, yes. All right, so let's talk weekend preview.

Speaker 3 Do we...

Speaker 3 How do we want to do this? Let's just whip through it. Let's just whip through it.
First of all,

Speaker 3 let's start with a headline. Hyperdrive.
The Jets are in hyperdrive right now. Their offense has been unleashed.
Joe Flacco's practicing. And Adam Gace said, anyone with a pulse, he's putting in.

Speaker 3 There you go. So Joe Flacco's probably getting in.
Joe Flacco can get in. Yes.
All right. Let's whip through it real quick.
Bears, Falcons.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 The season's on the line. I'm doing the thing to myself where week three, I'm like, this is the most important game of the entire season.
So that's it. I mean, it's very important if you're Dan Quinn.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
If Dan Quinn gets, if he loses at home to the Bears, that's...

Speaker 3 We're talking about hot seats, a major hot seat issues. Big time.
Rams at Bills.

Speaker 3 I don't want to do this every single week, but God damn it, if the fucking Bills had their fans, could you imagine how loud this place would be? Yeah. The 2-0 start, Josh Allen, MVP buzz.

Speaker 3 I do like the Bills. The Rams did the...
Did they do the Green Briar? No, they went all the way back. The Rams went all the way back.
The 40 Riders did the Green Briar. They did it.

Speaker 3 And here's a fun little fact. This is from Alan Bell.
The teams in the Eastern time zone, West Coast teams that travel to play in the Eastern time zone are 5-0 this season.

Speaker 3 And since the start of 2019, those teams are 20-4 overall.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I don't know what to tell you about that.

Speaker 3 That makes my brain hurt because I've been told that teams traveling from the West Coast, playing those early games on the East Coast, suck. Yeah.
They lose all the time.

Speaker 3 Have I been lied to? It's simply the Raiders, yeah. Who's not? The Raiders would.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 you're right. It was probably thrown off just when the Cardinals and the Raiders would lose all their games on the East Coast.

Speaker 3 Speaking of which, the Raiders going to New England, Hank, I actually think the Patriots are going to smoke the Raiders. Agreed.
Bill Belichick in his sweatshirt that he was just chewing on.

Speaker 3 He didn't even eat. He just chewed his sweatshirt for three days while he watched Darren Waller film.
Yeah, well, he looks like he's got moths. That's what I'm worried about, but he doesn't care.

Speaker 3 No, I think he's just Frank the Tank chewing on. He could get 90 yards and eight catches out of a moth in the slot.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 We got a couple.

Speaker 3 Are you going to be offended if I say the Browns in

Speaker 3 Washington football team?

Speaker 3 What's going to happen there? Like, is that the stinker? Is that the one we're not going to see? That is. Well, I've reached a point with the Washington football team where now I'm very excited.

Speaker 3 I would rather watch them when they're on defense. They're more fun to watch when they're rushing at the passer.
You've reached full Chicago. Yes.
Yes. And we've had a couple good defenses in D.C.

Speaker 3 in the last like 20, 25 years that are like that.

Speaker 3 On offense, they're painfully boring. They've got a couple of decent running backs, I guess.
And Dwayne Haskins is the best way I can describe Dwayne Haskins is he is like, he's like Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 3 He's like a sober Gardner Minshew. Yeah.

Speaker 3 A sober and like overly in-your-face religious Gardner Minshew. Is he super religious? No, I'm just saying, like, even more so.
Like, whoa, this guy's not really a partier.

Speaker 3 Like, not even sober. Like, at the right time, he might drink.

Speaker 3 He literally will never. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, a sober Gardner Minshew who won't even DD for you if you're drunk. Right, right.

Speaker 3 But I do like watching the defense. So, yeah, I don't think that anyone is really getting amped up for the Browns.
Washington football team. No, and here's another one that's going to stink.

Speaker 3 So we have a couple stinkers. The 49ers, let's go through the stinkers real quick.
49ers Giants is a stinker. Titans, Vikings could be a stinker because I think the Vikings are very, very bad.

Speaker 3 And Bengals, Eagles could be a stinker because both those teams could be very bad. But we still have Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 Actually, that one might not be a stinker because if Joe Burrow lights it up and the Eagles lose, then we get like full-on Philadelphia implosion. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Then Philly will be like, they're going to have to grease up the light poles there because they will be climbing them not out of excitement, but just out of sheer anger.

Speaker 3 Our good friend Roan, who you might know is Angelo Palantonio on this show, diehard Eagles fan, where Eagles fans are right now.

Speaker 3 And I know in his heart of hearts, he doesn't think this, but they're at the point of he was like, you know what?

Speaker 3 Part of me thinks that we should just lose just so that everyone knows that we're not good.

Speaker 3 Dude, it's like, but I know the minute the ball is kicked, you're going to be like, we got to win this game because we're back. But if the Eagles lose, it's immediate fire everybody in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 Yes. Fire everyone.
Oh, yeah. Texans Steelers are going to be good because I think we are going to find out if the Texans lose this game, they might just, I might just make them my pinky team again.

Speaker 3 Okay. Because

Speaker 3 that would be three ridiculously hard games that they played to start, and everyone did think they were a playoff caliber team. Yeah.
So, yeah, I might fuck it. I might do it right now.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, go for it. Houston has gotten

Speaker 3 schedule fucked. All right, fine.
You know what? Stay picky. Pinky bet.
I'm going back with the Texans. Even if they win, I don't care.
Pinky bet. All right.
Texans. It's on.

Speaker 3 If the Houston Texans win the Super Bowl this year, I will cut off from the nail up, tip of my pinky, left hand. Also, one fun thing to watch in this game, we are going to have,

Speaker 3 I think, for the first time ever. Bottom of the nail up.
We're going to have three brothers playing in the same game at the same time. Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Like, they are, CBS is nutting themselves to the Watt montages that they're going to have with Derek, TJ, and J.J.

Speaker 3 all on the field. We're going to get like the mom wearing.
Have they made like a triple jersey? I've never seen a triple jersey.

Speaker 3 I've only seen the ones that are like that Brady Quinn's girlfriend would wear, where it's half and half. A.J.
Hawk's wife. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Brady Quinn's sister, A.J. Hawk's Hawk's wife.
He's waiting.

Speaker 3 No. Was I right? A.J.
Hawk's sister, Brady Quinn's girlfriend. Yeah, that's what I said.
Yeah, Brady Quinn. AJ Hawk's girlfriend.
I got very, very confused for a second there.

Speaker 3 But yeah, we're going to see three brothers facing. Brady Hawk.
Brady Hawk game. That's going to be such a better name.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. Brady Hawk is a great name.
It'd be sweet. And A.J.
Quinn actually kind of sounds better too. Like a New York cop.
They should have just wife-swapped

Speaker 3 the program.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's going to be a good game. And then here's a fun fact I found out about Bud Dupree.
Your favorite regional boat seller.

Speaker 3 Bud Dupree was named Bud because his grandmother had a dream about that baby that was coming being a football player named Bud.

Speaker 3 So grandma is a football guy. The best.
Grandma's, she's smart. The ultimate.
The ultimate football guy. Do you think that if

Speaker 3 two Watt brothers get injured, do you think Tom Hanks is going to go down on the field and pull the last one out?

Speaker 3 We can't have all three. Matt Damon.
We can't have all three get pulled out. No, Tom Hanks.
Well, Tom Hanks died. Yeah, but he pulled him out.
Spoiler. He pulled him out.
Spoiler, sorry.

Speaker 3 Matt Damon was the Derek Watt in this situation. Tom Hanks back from jail? Tom in jail? He was never in jail.
It was a green screen. Oh, okay.
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right. Afternoon games.
Thank God they did the final. Finally, we have an even-ish schedule.
Eight early games, five late games. By the way, if you're not betting the

Speaker 3 Hansen on the Barcelona Sportsbook app, if you're in Pennsylvania, you're crazy. We unveiled it on Sunday.

Speaker 3 It's literally, you just take, you can take the over or under, I think, this week, but you bet just total points on a Sunday. If you take the under, you're insane.
But it's also like the greatest.

Speaker 3 You don't even have to think about who's playing or what's playing or what's happening. Oh, Gardner.
Gardner. He was terrible.
Bad for the over. He was terrible.
That's the end of the over. Fuck.
Wow.

Speaker 3 He fucked the over bad.

Speaker 3 Terrible game for him. Terrible game.
God damn it. Yeah, that one was bad.
All right, so, but yes. Oh, and Lavischkus and Chenault.
I needed 34 yards. Bet the overs, what we're saying.

Speaker 3 Bet the Hanson this week. Last week, there were more touchdowns than there have been in, what, how many years? It was like one of the all-time scoring in the first time.
Sundays. Six, yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, did he not get in?

Speaker 3 And he got like 17 feet in. He injured himself.
That's why they're showing him. He went in, and then he had a cup of coffee.
Stayed in. Read the paper.
Fuck this.

Speaker 3 Oh, guess what? LeBron's back on the free throw line. There we go.
Who would have thought? All right.

Speaker 3 Afternoon games, Jets, Colts, Colts are going to kill him. Panthers, Chargers, who cares? Do you think that, how, how much screen time do you think that Jets-Colts are going to get on the red zone?

Speaker 3 Very little. I think that

Speaker 3 I'm going to say three minutes.

Speaker 3 Three and a half minutes. Yeah,

Speaker 3 that may be too much. Panthers, Chargers, who cares? I mean, I'm going to care, but who cares? Lions, Cardinals, who cares? The Lions will probably be up and then lose it.

Speaker 3 But we have Bucs, Broncos, Blake Bortles. Do you think Blake's going to get in? Yeah, I think so.
He might start. Fuck.
Really? I mean, listen, Blake Bortles shows up. Is that heart or head?

Speaker 3 Both. Which head are you talking about?

Speaker 3 Is it? I can feel it with my penis and my heart that Blake is going to start. My head says Jeff Driscoll.
Okay.

Speaker 3 And then we have two great. So Bucks, Broncos will be great.
And Cowboys Seahawks, I am so, so excited for this game. That is going to be...
You just know that game's going to end

Speaker 3 with a stupid ending that makes one fan base very upset. Oh, it's definitely Destiny.

Speaker 3 And I made this note because I read this earlier in the week, but Brian Schottenheimer has been moved up to the booth this year.

Speaker 3 So that's how, like, I don't know what's going on, but I always love it when offensive coordinators decide, like, I'm either going to go down on the sidelines or up to the booth as if it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 But it does.

Speaker 3 I think it does. And that's why maybe they're letting Russ cook a little bit this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like when you, Russ looks way better from above than he does from at eye level because you don't know how short he is when you're looking down on him. So Schottenheimer's like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 This guy looks pretty good out there. Maybe we should let him pass.
Yeah, maybe we should let him go deep. All right, so we have,

Speaker 3 and then finally, Packers Saints, which I love the Saints, by the way, because the world loves, probably loves the Packers, and it's like the Saints are dead.

Speaker 3 That just feels like a game the Saints are going to win. What did Drew Brees say earlier today? Like, I feel close to being perfect or something like that.
He's almost there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's felt better than he has in years. Yeah, right.
According to Drew Brees. All right, quick picks, and then we'll do some fantasy daddies.

Speaker 3 Favorites: I have the Bills minus two and a half.

Speaker 3 I have the Bills minus two and a half. I have two.
I like him even better.

Speaker 3 Fuck it. I like him better at two and a half than a half.
We'll give it two, two and a half. Sean DeFi's minus five and a half.
Sean DeFay doesn't strike me as a Buffalo guy. No.

Speaker 3 He gets off the plane in Buffalo. He's like, this is, I'm a long way from home.
And maybe, maybe it's time to start talking about Sean McDermott as being one of the best coaches in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Just putting that out there.

Speaker 3 I like that.

Speaker 3 Underdog, I have. This is going to suck.

Speaker 3 The Giants plus four. I have the Giants.
Oh, man. I have the Giants.
And Nick Mullens is going to start. The 49ers are banged up.

Speaker 3 They're probably just trying to survive this week and get the hell out of there. I actually am going to throw it at my under, too, 41 and a half.
Yeah, that's the same thing. I don't see that.

Speaker 3 That game's going to suck. Sticky turf.
And the Niners, they were the ones that stayed in West Virginia. Yes.
Where time zones don't exist. Time doesn't even move forward in West Virginia.
Right.

Speaker 3 So that first stat that I put out about teams traveling east doesn't count. LeBron just got another bullshit call.
You would not believe it. Unreal.
This guy.

Speaker 3 You're underdog and you're under.

Speaker 3 I had the Texans, but you kind of just talked me into the Saints, so I think I'm going to go with the Saints. Okay.
Under. I wouldn't be an underdog.
Oh, that's your under. Saints are a favorite.

Speaker 3 Oh, they are? Yeah, minus three. Oh, then Texans.
Okay. Stick with Texans.
Your unders. Rams Bills.
My bonus underdog is the Vikings plus two and a half at home.

Speaker 3 I just feel like this is a game that makes no... The Vikings stink.
I dun-chained them already.

Speaker 3 But I think, I don't know. You dun chained them coming off the bus.
I dun-chained them immediately, but I think they're going to cover 2.5.

Speaker 3 And then I'm taking the Cowboys Seahawks over because you have to.

Speaker 3 My under is Carolina at the Chargers. So we figured out that the turf is fast there.
We didn't take the next step and figure out that it's also fast for the defense. Ooh, yes.
Good point. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Good point. We didn't think about that one.

Speaker 3 The over, I've got Detroit at Arizona. Oh, I like that one.
55.5.

Speaker 3 Even though Matt Patricia, he has some history on that field when he intercepted that pass at the goal line, prevented a touchdown. And also tied the Cardinals last year, week one.
You know what?

Speaker 3 I'm putting tie watch on this game. Yes.
There might be a tie, and it might be in this one. Yes.
All right. Are you ready for my can't lose parlay? Because it didn't lose last week.
It was 4-1.

Speaker 3 Barstool Sportsbook app. We boosted the odds.
It's going to be 225, so plus 225. This one cannot lose.
And I know I say that, but tell me how this loses. Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks.

Speaker 3 I think that wins. There's no one who loses in that.
Texans. No.

Speaker 3 Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.

Speaker 3 I think the biggest

Speaker 3 glaring weakness in that parlay is the potential for the Seahawks to do something really weird. Yes.
Just the weirdness. The Seattle weirdness.

Speaker 3 And the Cowboys have played in nothing but weird games so far. I know they've only played two of them.
Yes. But

Speaker 3 don't discount the weird. It's going to be a fun afternoon because that will be my fun game where I get to sit back and just be like, root for the Seahawks Seahawks to win.
My fun game.

Speaker 3 All right, let's do it. We're doing Fantasy Daddies.
LeBron just is at the free throw line non-stop. This is insane.
This guy, this is insane.

Speaker 3 They complained about the fouls, and then all of a sudden he gets fouled a billion times. I've also got my props for tonight on the Sunday night football game.
Yes. So it's going to be a good one.

Speaker 3 Saints Packers. The props, the special props I'm putting out, I'm doing the nice spot again from the 69-yard line.
Easy money. If there's a play that's run from there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's actually minus 1,000, I think, is the real odds for it, but they're boosting up. It's like minus 110.
So it's 10 times easier of a bet. It's basically free money.
Take that bet.

Speaker 3 And then we've got the Drew Hill bet. Who's going to complete a longer pass? Drew Brees or Taysom Hill during the game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then the third one that we're doing is the Jameis Winson hat-trick.

Speaker 3 If all quarterbacks combined with their stat sheets have a touchdown, an interception, and a fumble, then the Jameis Winson hat-trick hits. Nice, Nice.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 3 Fantasy Daddies. What's up, Daddies? Hey, guys.

Speaker 3 Look how you guys.

Speaker 3 It's Becky Brownhole. Oh, yeah.
You're going to make me come already. My stardom this week is knee-high boots.
Yeah, Christian Girl Autumn.

Speaker 3 Everyone knows Saturdays are for oversized shirt dresses team with some nice croc-embossed knee-high boots.

Speaker 3 Grab your mans, go to the orchard, take some dope picks for the Grahams. Hell yeah.
Apple picking and licking. You go, girl.
My sit-um

Speaker 3 is Buckboys.

Speaker 3 I am so done with Buckboys. They never text back, and I just want to find a nice guy who will take me on to dinner and cuddle.
And then fuck the shit out of me. My sleeper.
Softly though.

Speaker 3 Politely.

Speaker 3 My sleeper.

Speaker 3 I'll come on his dick.

Speaker 3 I'll come all over his dick. My sleeper is Justin Herbert.
He's dreamy. He's a rich bitch.
He's kind of a fucking boy. He lives in LA.
He's good. He's in stint.

Speaker 3 And he's like kind of hot, but he's rich, though. He needs to work on his skin.
You're bad. I better have to do it.
I literally let him put a bun in my oven and then dip. That's, I don't care about

Speaker 3 dip. I like to just, you know what? Stick around.

Speaker 3 If he's got oily face, you know what? Just doggy style.

Speaker 3 Butterface. He can pretend he's anyone.

Speaker 3 This sucks. Go ahead.
Go.

Speaker 3 My, hey, guys. This is.
Hey,

Speaker 3 Cammy. This is Cammy Clamovichy.

Speaker 3 I'm starting Pumpkin Spice Lube.

Speaker 3 So that's right. It's time for my patented slippery jack-o'-lantern humpkin.
I'm gonna carve a smile into the face of my autumn bottom.

Speaker 3 Nice. Spice everything.
Oh my god. I'm sitting couches because it's lazy boy season.

Speaker 3 When I see a guy, oh my god, in a recliner who hasn't showered wearing flannel, checking his tab and his phone and his fantasy scores on Sunday, I just wanted to get the lap dance to the Fox injury music while he's doing this.

Speaker 3 It's so cool. I love reclining.
Nice. My sleeper is Giant D.

Speaker 3 That's right. Giant D.
It's a defense for the Giants. I don't know who the 49ers are starting, but I've got some slippery turf.
We love it.

Speaker 3 Love it. Getting your ears back, Giant D, and gobble this meaty clam.
Go ahead. No, you want to go? All right, fine.
I'll go.

Speaker 3 I'm Christina, Tina. Except Teens.
Sextina, if I'm feeling bad.

Speaker 3 My stardom is Russell Wilson, Mr. Unlimited.

Speaker 3 You know what that means. Unlimited sex positions.

Speaker 3 What? Gluckluck 9,000. Hey, he's real good at sliding, Christina.
My sidem is Mike McCarthy, that fat box. Dad bots aren't in anymore.
And Mike McCarthy said he didn't believe in gambling today.

Speaker 3 Guess what, Mike McCarthy? Who do you think pays your salary, you fat piece of shit? Yeah, but it's gamblers. But his boss is hot.
I like Jerry Jones. My sleeper is Jeff Driscoll.
His power is sexy.

Speaker 3 He's got a huge dumper.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but, I mean, Hauer bottom. You know who's really...
I'd peg that.

Speaker 3 His behind is nice, but I like who's behind him. Blake Bortles.
Nice. Okay, go ahead.
Liam, cut the music. What's up is Patsy Lazzarino?

Speaker 3 And my stardom is Rodrigo Blankenship. My sit him is trend balloon acetate.
That shit's for cattle. My sleeper is carbon monoxide.
Poisoning is the silent killer.

Speaker 3 Make sure to change your batteries and your alarms. Yeah, like a magician's accent.
Nice, Philly.

Speaker 3 By the way, Mike McCarthy really did say that. What a fucking idiot.
He doesn't believe in gambling.

Speaker 3 He doesn't believe in gambling because he said that his dad owned a bar and he watched people gamble. It's like, read the room, dude.

Speaker 3 Why do you think people watch the games? Wait, he doesn't believe in gambling because his dad owned a bar and watched people. He didn't like people throwing away their lives

Speaker 3 while they're sitting at a bar buying like rumple mints,

Speaker 3 pickling their livers. Correct.
Got it. Correct.
And also he, like the reason why people watch football and watch the Cowboys when they're out of the game, down by a million, gambling. Gambling.

Speaker 3 Exactly. Responsibly.
Responsibly. All right, let's get to our interviews.
We got Neil deGrasse Tyson. Before we do that, what's up, guys?

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Speaker 3 Okay, here he is, Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. I don't even know how to introduce you.
You're a scientist, you're a physicist, you're an

Speaker 3 author, whatever, everything. You're the smartest guy we've ever had on.
It's Neil deGrasse Tyson. I think that's the easiest way to say it.
Smartest guy we've ever had on, Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Speaker 3 New show, Cosmos, Possible Worlds, out Tuesday, September 22nd, which is when we're taping this.

Speaker 3 Fox, so watch it.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm kind of stunned that we have you on because you're so much smarter than us.

Speaker 3 We'll see about that. Yeah, we actually will see about that.

Speaker 3 Let's start with this question. Just how smart are you?

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 I don't like the word smart.

Speaker 3 Well, no, it's an okay word, but

Speaker 3 people generally mean different things when they use it. And so when you try to go across the fence of people's definitions, then there's hardly ever agreement.

Speaker 3 So for example, contestants who win in the game of Jeopardy, they're commonly thought of as smart and because they know stuff. Okay.

Speaker 3 But let me give a more subtle example. Let's say you're an architect and you have a slot for one intern over the summer and their applications are basically identical.

Speaker 3 So you're going to invite them in for an interview. So one of them comes in, and this is a contrived example, but it'll make the point.

Speaker 3 So one of them comes in and you say, Oh, there's a church steeple out the window. Do you know how tall that steeple is? And the person says, Oh, yes, I do.
It's 134 feet.

Speaker 3 And say, Well, how do you know that? I said, Oh, I memorize the heights of all

Speaker 3 major structures in all cities. Okay, that's very impressive.
Next person comes in.

Speaker 3 You know how tall that church steeple is? And the person says, No, no, I don't, but I'll be right back.

Speaker 3 And so they go out and then they come back 10 minutes later and they say, it's about 135 feet, I think. And they say, well, how did you get that?

Speaker 3 And they said, well, I went outside and I measured the length of my shadow and I know how tall I am. Then I measured the length of the church steeple shadow.

Speaker 3 I did the math and that's how I came up with this answer. Who are you going to hire? The first person.
The person who knew the answer, wrote, or the person who figured out the answer.

Speaker 3 And I submit to you that most challenges in this world are best served, not by someone who memorized the encyclopedia, but by someone who

Speaker 3 has a deep sense of curiosity and tools

Speaker 3 to empower that curiosity to figure stuff out. I would say that the third person that you didn't mention is the smartest of them all, the one who just pulls up Google.

Speaker 3 asks it there, and then is able to tell you exactly what it is instead of going outside and like measuring their shadow in the precise sunlight. To me, that second person actually sounds insane.

Speaker 3 So, the

Speaker 3 Einstein is rumored to have said that, where he said,

Speaker 3 never

Speaker 3 memorize anything that you can just look up. Yeah.
By the way, you answered my first question with, I mean, you could have just said, like, really, really smart.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, no, because I don't, that's not how I think about it. Plus, I'll tell you this: I spend time learning

Speaker 3 when most people spent most, many people spend time doing nothing. Okay.
Or rather,

Speaker 3 not learning. So you're on the couch and the football game's on.
Or the three football games on. Watch it.
Uh-oh. It's that day of the week, right? Watch it.
Three consecutive football games.

Speaker 3 Is that nine hours? How many hours is that? It's actually 12, dummy. 12 hours.

Speaker 3 12 hours on the couch. Go ahead.
12 hours on the couch. And things like, are you waiting for the train? Are you in traffic? Or, so are you,

Speaker 3 how are you spending this interstitial time? So I want to add it up how much time that is when you're otherwise doing nothing. And it is years of your life.

Speaker 3 And so I said to myself, I don't want, you know, we're not living forever, not yet. I want to make sure every moment counts.
So every day.

Speaker 3 If I don't learn something or my mind isn't blown by some new idea that I confronted, then for me, it's a wasted day. Okay.
So that's all. So you want to to say I'm smarter?

Speaker 3 Okay, but I can tell you that I'm motivated to learn. Okay, so I have a somewhere in there, motivation has to be in the equation.
I liked intellectual curiosity.

Speaker 3 I think as a country, we don't have enough of it. But is there a part, there's a real question, is there a part of you that sometimes wishes you didn't have the brain that you have?

Speaker 3 Because what you just described, like, it sounds like you're a type of person that has almost anxiety when you're not learning something new.

Speaker 3 whereas i can sit and shut it the fuck off i can watch real housewives or a football game and then look up from my phone and be like whoa where'd the last five hours go that was awesome so there has to be a little part of you that's like sometimes i wish i was just a regular person who could just zone out no so okay so let me offer some nuance to what i just said Just because you're right, I'm a little anxious if I'm sitting there doing nothing when I could be doing something.

Speaker 3 However, there are some fun things that involve doing nothing. The question is just how much of that are you going to do?

Speaker 3 I like sitting on the beach, just watching the tide come in and out or watching the sunset. You know, there's no deep enlightenment going on there.
There's a certain

Speaker 3 there's a certain tranquility that I think we all value. And so once I'm in that mode, yeah, I'm good for it.

Speaker 3 But I'm not saying to myself, yes, I'm going to come out here every day for five hours and watch the tide.

Speaker 3 No, that's not how that's going to happen. Well, we don't watch that much football.
It's just, you know, Sundays, Sunday nights, Mondays,

Speaker 3 Tuesday Match and Thursday. Fox has Thursday.
Fox has Thursday. You got a color rush.
And then sometimes on Friday, you get a nice little treat game. Then all day Saturday.
So that's all. Wednesday.

Speaker 3 Wednesday is the day that I learn. And I cherish my Wednesday.
And I choose not to learn on that day. Yeah.
My brain needs a break from all the football watches.

Speaker 3 Here's something that was suggested. And let me hand it to you guys because offer you this suggestion.
Tell me what you think.

Speaker 3 It has been noted, I forgot by whom, that the reason why we watch sports collectively is that it gives you something to talk about with a stranger if the conversation otherwise, or with a friend, if the conversation otherwise lags.

Speaker 3 And also gambling. Always talk about sports.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's

Speaker 3 why everyone was enlightened in 100 different subjects.

Speaker 3 then the conversation will never lag because you can talk about like leaves and and and and insects and animals and climate and temperatures and and and so so you're not limited to that so do you go anywhere your your your active

Speaker 3 imagination takes you do you think then that if you flash back in time three four hundred years uh around the water coolers of that day people were having conversations about science about math because i i mean mean people were a lot dumber back then than they are now like right now they they didn't even know what the internet was back then well i know exactly what the internet is again is that like smart and dumb they knew less than what we know but they were not less clever okay for example go go back you look at the the pyramids right and you've had people go back like eric von doniken among them say gee the ancient peoples, there's no way they could have done that.

Speaker 3 They must have gotten help from aliens. Right.
Well,

Speaker 3 just because the author couldn't figure out how to do it didn't mean the egyptians didn't figure out how to do it yes they had less technology but they had a million people to work for them and some of whom were slaves and they can just command it up and get the engineering right you get the you've got it so so i'm not i'm i'm not convinced that people long ago were less clever had less intuition than we do today.

Speaker 3 They just had less technology. And it was those folks who laid the foundations of physics and mathematics and biology.
And we can recite their names today, Newton and Darwin and Einstein. So,

Speaker 3 yeah, I think,

Speaker 3 by the way, by the way, I'm not requiring that people don't watch football. If you enjoy it, go right ahead.
I also watch football. I just don't watch 12, 12, three times four.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's four-hour games usually. But wait, but you actually do have, I had a tweet that I wanted to bring up because you kind of do have a problem with football and I have a problem with you.

Speaker 3 You said, sometimes I wonder if we'd have flying cars by now had civilization spent a little less brain energy contemplating football.

Speaker 3 You found that tweet. Yeah, I did.
Wait, wait, wait, back up. Wait, wait, wait.
In all fairness to me, there's 50 other tweets. celebrating football.
Okay.

Speaker 3 You're not listening right now. Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair. But listen,

Speaker 3 I too have had this thought that if I didn't didn't have my brain full of stupid statistics and hours and hours and hours of watching sports, I would probably be a lot smarter of a person.

Speaker 3 But people got a lot of things they like. Nothing like the stupid statistics of baseball.
Right.

Speaker 3 Nothing compares to baseball.

Speaker 3 Right. I'm aware of this.
I'm aware that I've filled my brain with completely trivial things that mean nothing and that it could probably be used in a better way.

Speaker 3 But that's why we have people like you. Like you, I'm actually, actually, it's actually your fault for watching football.
We're the football watchers. You shouldn't be watching it.
You should be

Speaker 3 from Doritos saying, Tyson, get back to work. Yes, yes.
Figure out all of the world's problems. There's absolutely nothing lost in my brain studying football.

Speaker 3 How have you seen some of the guys that discuss football on TV? Your Terry Bradshaws, you know, your John Grudens.

Speaker 3 I don't think that they are the ones that are going to be inventing flying cars if their brains were totally.

Speaker 3 I neglected to factor that into that tweet what you're saying not to put words in your mouth what you're saying is that the people who are spending that much time watching football would have never been the people inventing flying cars you should be glad that we're spending that much time because if we put our our brains to these grand designs we would screw everything up right no matter what you would probably be dead right now if terry bradshaw was in charge of the environment yeah you you fail to realize that no matter what time you put us in in the history of the world, we will always be the village idiots.

Speaker 3 Okay, I had not appreciated this dimension of that tweet. Yeah, it looks like you learned something today.
Yeah, so get back to work.

Speaker 3 Yeah, get back to work. Stop watching football.
Totally learned something. Also, I would not trust Ben Roffelsberg with a flying car.
No, I want that for the record.

Speaker 3 You do like football, though, because I found another tweet. I'm a bit of a

Speaker 3 Neil Tyson reply guy. I've replied to a lot.
You probably have me muted because I've junked up your mentions for going on six years now.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 the reply stream is very busy and active, and I can't. Occasionally, I'll catch catch one and then I'll I'll reply.
But I probably reply to maybe

Speaker 3 three tweets a week,

Speaker 3 many thousands. So forgive me if I've never gotten to any of yours.
That's fine. So you do tweet about football.

Speaker 3 You said for the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower pressures in the balls requires balls to be inflated with 125 degree air.

Speaker 3 We have amongst us a deflate gate truther, our producer Hank.

Speaker 3 I was wondering if maybe you could explain that in layman's terms to Hank about why it's glaringly obvious that there was cheating going on.

Speaker 3 Okay, I've got to like remember all of the details there. So the Patriots provided the game ball and while no one was looking, removed air allegedly to

Speaker 3 their opposing team. Was that that? Well, yeah, there were 11 out of 12 balls were deflated.
Right. So what would happen is,

Speaker 3 if you increase the temperature of air, then the pressure goes up,

Speaker 3 even though it's the same amount of air.

Speaker 3 So what you could do is you could heat the air, put hot air into a ball, and when you hand it to someone, they say, oh, yeah, this feels like a regularly inflated ball.

Speaker 3 Then it goes out into the field, into the winter air, and then the winter air begins to cool the air inside the ball.

Speaker 3 It takes a little bit of delay because the pig skin is insulating and there's a rubber bladder in there as well. If I remember my having taken apart a football when I was younger.

Speaker 3 So then as the air cools, the pressure then drops. Then it's no longer inflated to the regulation air pressure that you expect.
So I'm in calculation. Yeah.
And

Speaker 3 I came up with a temperature for which that situation would unfold. Okay.
So in other words, you're innocent. We're just supposing that the Patriots had 125 degree air.

Speaker 3 If you wanted to, you, okay. So if you have a huge Ernie Adams does.

Speaker 3 The air just happened to be hot and they put it in and they check that it's the right pressure. It's not against the rules.
They're full of cold out on the field. Yeah, it's not against the rules.

Speaker 3 If Ernie Adams has a blow dryer that he's using to fill up each football, and then knowing that it'll cool down when he goes outside and make the football softer like Tom Brady likes him.

Speaker 3 So I think we can. By the way, this is not some mysterious fact of physics.
You know that when you drive a car, driving on a road heats the tires, which in turn heats the air in the tires.

Speaker 3 Tire pressure increases when you are out on the freeway going high speeds for long amounts of time. Friction.
Yeah, I'm just saying. So we already know this intuitively.
Just apply it to a football.

Speaker 3 Do you ever, when someone asks you a question, do you ever say, like, I actually don't know?

Speaker 3 Yeah, but what I found is they, if they ask a question, so the answer is, yes.

Speaker 3 So for example, let's do that exercise. Ask me, what was around before the Big Bang? Just ask me that.
What was around before the Big Bang?

Speaker 3 By the way, this, what you're doing right now, I'm pulling your man card because you got to answer every question like you know it, even if you don't. But go ahead.

Speaker 3 What was around before the Big Bang? So I'll say, I have no idea, and neither does anybody else. Well, we have some

Speaker 3 pencil pushings on a page that might be a multiverse, but we really don't know. That's my answer.

Speaker 3 And I'm answering not just for me and my own state of mind of knowledge, but for an entire community of scientists who research this.

Speaker 3 So now, if you ask another question, and I know it's a product of your basal curiosity, What I'll say is, generally, I'll know something about what you're asking, even if I don't know everything about what you're asking.

Speaker 3 So, what I'll say is, I'm not sure, but I do know this.

Speaker 3 And then I share something that I know very well. And usually, the person is satisfied and they're happy because they learn something.

Speaker 3 Wait, just generally, if you ask a lot of questions, you just want to learn, and that's what you're after. Right.
More than a specific answer to that specific question.

Speaker 3 So, just to recap, you asked me to ask you a question that no one knows the answer to. Yes.
That was the one you went with. You're like, yeah, there's some things I don't know.

Speaker 3 Something that literally no one knows.

Speaker 3 Okay, so the most recent time I was in a situation where I didn't know it was someone had asked whether

Speaker 3 we could

Speaker 3 know if there was a multiverse adjacent to our universe. What does that mean? What the hell?

Speaker 3 So we have our universe and recent ideas in quantum physics suggest that we're not the only universe in town, that there could be many possibly infinite other universes that expand and contract.

Speaker 3 And we're just one, one branch in a whole tree of multiverses going on all the time. Do we get to play them in football?

Speaker 3 Yes. What's the spread on that game? Yes.
Depending on what brand of multiverse you embrace, some multiverses will have laws of physics that are slightly different.

Speaker 3 And you wouldn't, you, you, that would be dangerous

Speaker 3 and cross from one multiverse to another to play football. But the point is, there's, I've heard from people who I trust

Speaker 3 that light cannot leave our universe and enter another universe, but our gravity can.

Speaker 3 So we can feel the gravitational effects of other universes.

Speaker 3 And my answer there is, I do not know enough what's called field theory, quantum field theory and classical field theory to fully understand and explain why gravity could leak out of this universe, but light can't.

Speaker 3 So I'm just reciting what others who are in the know have told me.

Speaker 3 So that's an example of me not knowing something, but framing it in an answer that still might have some value to you as the curious person.

Speaker 3 Okay, but that, again, is like the most complicated thing to not know the answer to. That you still know what nobody's in my doubt.
It's in my world. Other things people know to not ask me.

Speaker 3 Okay, Okay, well, they're not going to. Who was the 31st president? No, I don't remember.
I have to probably figure it out slowly, but no, I don't.

Speaker 3 By the way, if I've been in Jeopardy, I would know it. Why do you get the little crusty things in your eyes when you wake up after sleeping?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the, like the mineral, the liquid that's in your eye

Speaker 3 that's highly mineral rich.

Speaker 3 And so if you tear up while you're sleeping, and it doesn't go back in your eye, the water evaporates out and leaves all the minerals.

Speaker 3 That's why you have salty tears. You've heard this, salty tears.
It's all making sense. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Can you explain? Yeah, by the way, by the way, I don't want to tell you something that's just a random dangling fact that you'll have to try hard to remember.

Speaker 3 I try to put it in a context so that when we're done in the conversation, it's like, yeah, that makes complete sense. I can taste salty tears.

Speaker 3 If you evaporate salty or mineral-rich liquid, it leaves a deposit. You also know this if you have, quote, hard water in your sinks.

Speaker 3 Okay, if you have a drippy faucet, the mineral deposits goes onto the porcelain okay it comes out of the water so

Speaker 3 the stuff in your eye that's like mineral deposits

Speaker 3 so i'm hearing up overnight so recently we've there's been a lot in the news in the last year in particular about the fact that aliens are real in one way or another there have been ufo sightings things like that coming out from from the navy you focus most of of your attention on the scientific workings of the universe like what planets and stars are made up of the effects of gravity, black holes, etc.

Speaker 3 All this really smart stuff.

Speaker 3 I haven't heard you discuss that much about extraterrestrial life and the implications that we've seen recently and how that affects some of the other things that you like to learn about in the universe.

Speaker 3 Where do you stand on aliens? Are you intrigued by aliens as much as you are about finding out what type of gas is in Betelgeuse?

Speaker 3 Yeah, nobody doesn't love the aliens. We all want to meet the aliens.

Speaker 3 So, plus, I don't have a stance on anything. Having a stance implies this is my opinion and you're not going to shake it.
That's what we like.

Speaker 3 I do not spend time telling people my opinions because they're my opinions. And I don't really care if you share my opinions.

Speaker 3 This is how fights begin, right?

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 if it's not a matter of opinion and it's a matter of research or information. So let me back up.
If two scientists get into a fight,

Speaker 3 beneath the fight is an implicit understanding that either you're wrong and I'm right,

Speaker 3 I'm wrong and you're right, or we're both wrong.

Speaker 3 We know that going in. Whereas if two religious people from opposite religions get into a conversation, they're not coming out agreeing.
All right. Same with two opposite poles of politics.

Speaker 3 They're not coming out agreeing. You can't go to a political debate and have one opponent say, you know, I agree with everything you just said.
Oh my gosh, right? I think about that there.

Speaker 3 Let's go out and have a beer. That has never happened and it never will happen because they're not operating on the premise that one of them could be wrong or that they could both be wrong.

Speaker 3 They're taking a stance and saying, I am right about this. So I try not to do that.
If I've ever done it, I would have regretted done it if it's called to my attention.

Speaker 3 So where am I on the subject of aliens? If you study this problem,

Speaker 3 what we're made of, the materials,

Speaker 3 the hydrogen, the oxygen, the silica, just look at what's in our body. Those ingredients are everywhere across the universe.
We're not made of rare stuff.

Speaker 3 We're made of the most common ingredients. The top four chemically active ingredients in the universe are chemically active in our bodies.
So that's the first fact.

Speaker 3 Second fact, when did life begin on Earth? Practically as soon as it possibly could have. So life happened fast with the base ingredients it was given.

Speaker 3 So if you just extend that idea to the fact that there's a gazillion stars in the galaxy and in the universe, and lately we've created a catalog of exoplanets that's still growing, rising through 4,000 exoplanets in this tiny little region around our corner of the galaxy, to suggest that we're the only life in the universe would be inexcusably egocentric.

Speaker 3 Okay, I like that. That's different.
I'm pro-alien. Yeah.
That's different. I'm in favor of the aliens.
I'm taking a stance. Because in case they're real, I want them to know that I'm on their side.

Speaker 3 I'm all in in for extraterrestrial life. Okay.
Most of which probably won't be what we call intelligent. Most of Earth's history had microbes.

Speaker 3 So if you were visiting from another planet and you just closed your eyes and picked some random point on Earth's timeline, you would land probably when they were just microbes. And so

Speaker 3 what we call intelligence is a very late coming phenomenon. in the tree of life.

Speaker 3 But I'm just saying that recognizing the likelihood of there being life in the universe is not the same thing as agreeing with UFO enthusiasts that these things they cannot identify in the sky are intelligent aliens visiting from another planet.

Speaker 3 And I've made this point before. What's it they're calling called UFOs? And what does the U stand for? Unidentified.
You're done.

Speaker 3 The moment you say, I don't know what it is, you can't turn around and say, I know exactly what it is. It's aliens visiting from another planet.
You just said you don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 The The way you word this is, I don't know what this is. Let me investigate further.
Let me get a net.

Speaker 3 Let me get a better photo. Let me find a way to greet these creatures if they are visitors.
I need better evidence than fuzzy Tic Tac videos taken by the Navy.

Speaker 3 And in fact, why did aliens always want to just show up in military photos? True. 6 billion photos and videos are uplifted to the internet every single day.
High definition, high high-quality imagery.

Speaker 3 None of them is an alien walking out of a spaceship, coming up to shake your hand. None of it.
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 What happened to all the UF, the alien encounters that were talked about before the era where everybody had a video camera? What happened to those?

Speaker 3 Okay, so that should tell us all something, that something else was going on in the heads of those who were reporting this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the eye-ear-brain combination is

Speaker 3 rife with badly interpreting or misinterpreting stuff that happens in front of you. Some of these sightings come from that.
Others are genuine, mysterious phenomena. And I'm saying, go, go after them.

Speaker 3 And you'll be rich and famous overnight if you can snare one and drag it into the town square. Okay.
I like that. I like that answer.
Yeah. Well,

Speaker 3 it all just kind of blows my mind when I think about it.

Speaker 3 What about Pluto? What do you got against Pluto? Why'd you cancel Pluto? Get over it. But why'd you can't, like, every, I know that it's cancel culture here, cancel culture there.

Speaker 3 You canceled the fucking planet, man. We learned that when we were like in second grade.
What's your problem?

Speaker 3 Wait, you sit there at that table with pent-up anger. Yeah.
Yeah, we like Pluto. You canceled Pluto.
We got very mad at you when you canceled Pluto. Like, what do you think? Okay, so fuck.

Speaker 3 So, first of all,

Speaker 3 all right.

Speaker 3 We all love Pluto. No, you don't.
You don't. You don't.
That's how you start saying a sentence when you don't like that personal thing.

Speaker 3 I'm okay.

Speaker 3 We're all in agreement. We love Pluto.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Okay, go ahead.
Just be honest. Just be honest.
Be intellectually honest and start by saying, I hate Pluto. And

Speaker 3 here we go. I want to do right by Pluto.

Speaker 3 And so give me a moment to explain to you.

Speaker 3 Why your feelings about Pluto may be misplaced. Just allow me a moment.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 3 What i found among pluto lovers out there is that they're absent certain fundamental bits of information regarding it for example did you know that earth's moon

Speaker 3 is five times the mass of pluto yes

Speaker 3 okay so someone told you that very nice okay did you know that of all the planets

Speaker 3 Pluto is the only one that crosses the orbit of another planet. Okay.

Speaker 3 Comets do that, by the way. By the way, it gets

Speaker 3 routinely do that. So I'm just saying, there's a category of objects that do that.
We call them comets. But wait a minute, let's keep going.
Did you know that unlike any other planet,

Speaker 3 Pluto has more than half of its volume occupied by ice?

Speaker 3 So that if Pluto got near the sun, heat from the sun would evaporate that ice and it would grow a tail.

Speaker 3 That's no kind of behavior. We got words for things like that.

Speaker 3 We got vocabulary for that.

Speaker 3 So an object that crosses the orbit of other planets, one-fifth the size of Earth's moon, that grows a tail if it gets too close to the sun, we have terms for that. Not only that,

Speaker 3 we discovered countless other objects that resemble it, orbiting in the same band

Speaker 3 around the sun.

Speaker 3 You know, that's happened to us before. Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 There was planet Ceres. Did you know about Planet Ceres? Maybe not.
Planet Planet Ceres was discovered in 1800. People were excited.
It was a new planet discovered between Mars and Jupiter.

Speaker 3 And it was headlines. And the book said, new planet discovered.
Then they found another one in the same zone. Then they found another.
Then they found another.

Speaker 3 They said, wait a minute, something's going on here. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 This isn't four new extra planets. It's four objects.
in a new swath of real estate, a new category of object that we have just discovered. And thus became a new country, a new

Speaker 3 resident, a new resident category in the solar system called the asteroid belt. When they thought they discovered a planet, they simply discovered the brightest asteroid, Ceres.
Okay?

Speaker 3 And so there they are. And now that's what that, the asteroid belt.
Pluto.

Speaker 3 was the we called it a planet just the way we called the first asteroid a planet we called it a planet we had nothing else to compare it to in 1993, 1992,

Speaker 3 another object was discovered out there in the same kind of orbit that Pluto has, and then another, and then another, and then another.

Speaker 3 And an entire belt of icy bodies was fleshed out with newer and better telescopes. And that's called the Kuiper Belt of Comets.
Pluto is the largest known member of the Kuiper Belt of Comets.

Speaker 3 It is a big fish in a small pond. instead of being the puny fish in a big pond.

Speaker 3 And I'll give you another reference to this. If Jupiter, no, forget, if Neptune were a Chevy Impala parked at the curve,

Speaker 3 what car would Pluto be?

Speaker 3 A Yugo. A Yugo, okay.
That's a natural thought. No, it would be a matchbox car sitting on the curb.
I love matchbox cars. I'm good.

Speaker 3 But that's not a sense of the difference in what these objects are. It's not a Yugo.
It's a matchbox car.

Speaker 3 So now, rather than just say Pluto is just some craggy, icy body, we came up with a new category that we think makes Pluto a little happier than it was initially.

Speaker 3 And it's, are you big enough to be round?

Speaker 3 Because Pluto is. Small objects tend to be craggy.
They look like Idaho potatoes or chunks of rock. Pluto's big enough to be round.
It has enough gravity. The gravity shapes it into a round form.

Speaker 3 Then we call it a dwarf planet. rather than just simply a comet.
And Ceres, the brightest of the asteroids, it's the only asteroid that's big enough to be round.

Speaker 3 That got elevated to be a dwarf planet from asteroid. Pluto got demoted from a red-blooded planet to a dwarf planet.

Speaker 3 So that's the layout of the solar system. And here's the problem.
I don't think we should have ever been taught the solar system by memorizing the planets in sequence from the sun. That's not science.

Speaker 3 That's a memorization activity. Science would be What objects, what do they have in common?

Speaker 3 Which ones have magnetic fields? Which ones have rings? Which ones are icy? Which ones are cold? Which ones are hot?

Speaker 3 Does any of them have plate tectonics like Earth? Which one of them has storm systems? Well, Saturn and Jupiter and Uranus and Earth all have storm systems.

Speaker 3 So you find cuts through the data where you can have meaningful conversations about the science of these things and not say, oh, in my science class today, I memorized what's the fourth planet from the sun.

Speaker 3 So, and I don't blame... anyone blame the educational system

Speaker 3 for thinking that that's what you teach elementary school children.

Speaker 3 Okay, so that's fascinating looking at it that way. If the Earth were to be close to the Sun, would it not also grow a tail? Because it's got a lot of terrorists.
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 It's a great question. It would take a lot more heat to start evaporating rocks.
There you go. So it could.
So maybe the Earth isn't a planet.

Speaker 3 So no, it's a very important and excellent question. So the rocks, you'd have to start evaporating the rocks.
Yeah. And it would grow a tail if it were like

Speaker 3 a fraction of the distance to Mercury. Mercury is a rock, and it's really close to the sun.
You'd have to be much, much closer than even that.

Speaker 3 So I'm talking about regular familiar distance, Earth's distance to the sun. Okay.
Pluto would grow a tail. I've always thought that Earth would pop a little bit more if it had some rings.

Speaker 3 Is there any sort of like natural way? I guess not really natural, but

Speaker 3 how can we geoengineer our planet if we had to? If they said, Neil Tyson, we're giving you unlimited budget in 50 years. Can you make Earth grow rings?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So

Speaker 3 first,

Speaker 3 that's an insightful question

Speaker 3 because you know they're beautiful. You know, at least one planet has them.
Why can't we? Yeah. And so

Speaker 3 recent evidence suggests that Saturn didn't always have its rings, that the rings are a transitory phenomenon. And the exact duration that they would stay there is not clear, maybe 100 million years.

Speaker 3 That's still short. compared with the history of the solar system.
It may have been that the dinosaurs, had they had telescopes, would see Saturn without a ring. There's a chance that that was true.

Speaker 3 Earth definitely had a ring when the moon formed. All evidence points to a Mars-sized protoplanet

Speaker 3 sideswiping Earth, scattering,

Speaker 3 scattering all matter of debris into orbit around the Earth. And for a brief while we would have had a ring.

Speaker 3 But what happens is anything that's slightly bigger than anything else has more gravity and it attracts more. So the big get bigger, the small get eaten.
And so out of this ring forms the moon.

Speaker 3 But this would have happened pretty quickly, we think, over a matter of years, not centuries or millennia. So you have a brief period of time where we'd have a ring.

Speaker 3 But that would have been really beautiful. I wanted to see the collision.
The collision would have been spectacular. I've been asked,

Speaker 3 what time in history would you like to relive or to see? I would say, take me back to a front row seat when Earth got slammed by a Mars-sized protoplanet.

Speaker 3 That would have been a collision for the ages.

Speaker 3 I was going to say the Monday Night Football game between the Chiefs and the Rams, where they scored like

Speaker 3 you have about five billion years, so you're okay.

Speaker 3 You don't know how long, you don't, you don't know how long I'm going to live.

Speaker 3 No, I don't. But if you are a mammal, the average mammal species is around for one, a few hundred, for a few million years.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 not you, you, but you, a human, by natural causes, we might not be here a couple of million years from now. But if we're smart, and we know we're smart, we think, we tell ourselves at least, and wise,

Speaker 3 then we'll try to make sure we don't kill ourselves. And we'll try to have foresight against things that could kill us, like asteroids or viruses.

Speaker 3 And then maybe we can add some time against what would be our native natural tenure on earth you want to live five billion years that's fine but then you have the sun to deal with but by then i'd like to think you just find another solar system and terraform one of the planets and move there so is it gonna is it gonna blow up or is it gonna eat us oh sorry you that was in your question so the sun all evidence suggests it will just expand and continue to expand until it engulfs the orbits of Mercury and Venus and comes near enough to Earth.

Speaker 3 It might even engulf Earth, but regardless, it'll be near enough to Earth to send our oceans into a rolling boil as they evaporate into the air and then the air evaporates into space and then earth is this charred ember orbiting deep within the surface of the sun well let me ask you a question

Speaker 3 that sucks let me ask you a question smart guy if the sun is hot then how come outer space is cold

Speaker 3 oh okay so it turns out um

Speaker 3 when you think of that this excellent.

Speaker 3 That's a great question. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Up, up, up. So here's what you think.
Your sense of temperature

Speaker 3 is not what you think.

Speaker 3 So when you say, oh, it's warm in here,

Speaker 3 what you're saying is that the temperature of the air on your skin plus whatever radiative energy is touching your skin, that combination to you feels warm. You're gaslighting me.

Speaker 3 You're gaslighting me. You're saying what my brain is actually thinking is not what it thought.
But if you look at the thermometer,

Speaker 3 it's accurate, but what I'm saying is that if you go outside on a summer day

Speaker 3 and you say, oh boy, I'm hot. Let me go into the shade.

Speaker 3 The air temperature in the shade is the same as the air temperature in the sun.

Speaker 3 By going into the shade, you're removing sunlight that your skin skin was absorbing, contributing to your sense of how hot it is.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 you recognize temperature by different ways that energy is touching your body. When you go out into the vacuum of space, there is no air.

Speaker 3 So your temperature is entirely

Speaker 3 the energy of light coming to you.

Speaker 3 So if you are facing the sun, you will feel warm on the side facing the sun and freezing on the side that does not face the sun because you don't have air as a mixed medium to spread out that temperature.

Speaker 3 So if you want to stay warm in space and you don't have

Speaker 3 a spacesuit with climate control, just hop onto some kind of rotisserie.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 So there'll always be some side of you facing the cold and the heat, and there'll be some rate that'll be just right for you.

Speaker 3 So what I'm hearing from you is that the sun needs the Earth's atmosphere to even be hot.

Speaker 3 Yes, in fact. So it's not that hot.

Speaker 3 So if you go on the sunlit side of the moon, but step into a shadow, it's 200 degrees below zero, even though it's daytime. You just happen to be in the shadow where no sunlight is hitting you.

Speaker 3 So if you want it to be really, really cold, you just go far away from the nearest star. And then you got nothing.
What do you got? You got nothing.

Speaker 3 Then it's cold no matter which way you turn and rotate. Well, how come

Speaker 3 at the top of a mountain, though?

Speaker 3 Atmosphere to spread the ground heating so that we can all say it is 72 degrees today on this autumn day because we're all touching the same air that got warmed by the sun. Only there's another.

Speaker 3 layer here. The sun heats the ground and the ground heats the air.

Speaker 3 That's why it's not the hottest time of day is not noon. It's a few hours later.
There's a time delay there. The hottest month of the year is not June,

Speaker 3 which has the highest sunlight and the most intense sunlight. It's delayed a little because the sun is heating the ground and the ground uses infrared to heat the air.

Speaker 3 Well, what about the top of a mountain? More than you ask for, but that's

Speaker 3 that's as close to the sun as you can get on a top of a mountain and there's snow everywhere. And meanwhile, if you go down to the center of the earth, you're really hot.

Speaker 3 So what I'm submitting to you is that perhaps the sun is cold and we get all of our warmth just from the center of the earth.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, so the point is as you ascend, because I said a moment ago, I slipped it in, that the air gets hot because the sun is heating the ground and the ground is heating the air. It's a time delay.

Speaker 3 It's a physical delay in what's happening to the sun's energy. And so the farther you are away from what is the ground that the sun is mostly heating, the cooler the temperature will be.

Speaker 3 So as you ascend to high altitudes, the temperature is going to drop because there's less ground around you to heat the air that is around you.

Speaker 3 And if you go up in an airplane, the temperature is even colder.

Speaker 3 They still do it. You see the little temperature indicator

Speaker 3 in the thing. You go up this 40 below zero.

Speaker 3 And you want to say, well, I'm closer to the sun. How come it's cold? Yeah.
Well, in daytime, you're closer to the sun, but that's not relevant. What's relevant is where is the sun's heat going?

Speaker 3 It's going through the transparent atmosphere to the ground. The ground grabs it, re-radiates it as infrared.
And by the way, greenhouse gases trap infrared.

Speaker 3 So the sun heats the ground, the infrared stays. And if you have too much greenhouse gases, all the temperature of the earth rises.

Speaker 3 Okay, well, you make some excellent scientific points, but I also can't help but notice that you rely on the sun for warmth and for food production. So you're obviously intellectually compromised

Speaker 3 and you receive improper benefits and you need the sun to survive. So I take everything that you say, sir with a grain of salt in that vein um

Speaker 3 so essentially all energy that drives life on earth's surface comes from the sun so

Speaker 3 so if you're a meat eater and you have a steak the steak came from a cow the cows are vegetarian unless you otherwise force feed it meat cows are vegetarian eating leaves and the leaves and other grains got their energy from sunlight so when you're eating a steak, it is, you're actually eating solar power.

Speaker 3 If you want to think about it fully in that way.

Speaker 3 All right. I got that.
I mean, this, we, you're a recurring guest, by the way, now. So anytime we have a question, you have to come

Speaker 3 because you just showed up once. So anytime we want you back on, you have to come back on.
That's part of being a recurring guest. Anyway, Cosmos on Fox.
Oh, by the way, just one other quick thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Football. You guys like football, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Did you see my tweet about Russell

Speaker 3 last year or the year before? Russell Wilson executed a lateral that was controversial. Did you know about this? No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 How could you dig up my tweet about

Speaker 3 the chairs and not find that? Yeah,

Speaker 3 I only found the ones that I disagreed with you. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Gotcha. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So you're fulfilling the social media prime directive. You must disagree.
Absolutely at all costs. Right, right, right.

Speaker 3 Here's what happened. And just so I get some street cred with the two of you, okay?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 Seattle was playing, I don't remember who. This has happened last year.

Speaker 3 And Russell Wilson broke through the line of scrimmage, scrambled basically, but he's got one of his backs adjacent to him, and he's about to get tackled and throws a lateral. Okay.

Speaker 3 And then the guy runs another 20 yards. They get a first down.
And they might have even scored on that run.

Speaker 3 The play was

Speaker 3 protested. Okay.
It went in the favor of Seattle. However, I got a call from the coach.
Okay. He said, Tyson, you got to help me out of this.

Speaker 3 I know what we did is right, but why are they complaining about it? Here's what happened.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson and his and the other back were running so fast together that while he threw the ball backwards,

Speaker 3 it was caught at a point forward of where he released the ball.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 So in the reference frame of the quarterback and the running back,

Speaker 3 it was a legit lateral. From the reference frame of the grid, the ball moved forward.

Speaker 3 And so I said, okay, you can call, you know, you can say this was illegal, but you're penalizing players for running fast. All right.
And, you know, this is, is this how you want to really do it?

Speaker 3 They kept it. They kept the thing, and I had my analysis.
It's tweeted. You can go find it.

Speaker 3 I'm reading it right now. I'm watching the play.
So, yeah, this actually, so it's fascinating to me because this does happen in rugby all the time when laterals are executed at full speed.

Speaker 3 And the rule in rugby is written in a way that you would appreciate, where if the ball is thrown backwards, regardless of if it travels forward or not, if it's thrown in a backwards motion and it exits the person's hand going backwards, then that play is allowed.

Speaker 3 In football, because everything is measured by by the yard line, then they can't go back. And that, you know what that does?

Speaker 3 If they were to follow your rule, then they would have to have referees to introduce a little bit of subjectiveness into the rule. And so it's just easier to...

Speaker 3 Well, no, but if you're allowed to go back to

Speaker 3 instant replay on a challenged play, you can just do that. I think as long as Russell Wilson stayed ahead of the other runner while he threw it, come on now.

Speaker 3 It's the spirit of a lateral that is being preserved in that play.

Speaker 3 And I wonder if they're going to actually change the rule to be more like a rugby rule because of that play, because they let that play stand. They didn't call it back.

Speaker 3 And for them to let that play stand means they allowed the ball to be lateraled forward.

Speaker 3 Because you look at the two grids and they're doing different things. So it's called a Galilean transformation.
We learn about this in Physics 101. Oh, you made me feel stupid.

Speaker 3 Do you know what the parallax effect is?

Speaker 3 Yeah, of course. Okay.
All right. So my last question.
My last question. I thought I had a gotcha moment.
Yeah. My last question.
So do watch Cosmos. You are a recurring guest.

Speaker 3 My last question is just simply like, why

Speaker 3 when we just think about space, does it freak us out and my brain hurts? Like, I just can't. Can you think about space for a really long time? I assume that's all you do, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So I can, I have a hypothesis for why that may be true.

Speaker 3 We

Speaker 3 see the world through our own eyes.

Speaker 3 And, you know, when you're a child, a quick example, I remember on my fifth birthday party,

Speaker 3 there was a cake and there was a five on the cake made of candy. All right.

Speaker 3 And it was like a thing.

Speaker 3 You insert in the cake. And I thought to myself, how did the cake store know that I was turning five?

Speaker 3 Right. I remembered thinking that.
And, you know, when you're a child, you think the whole world

Speaker 3 orbits you. Right.
You don't realize that other people have their own sense of reality and their own perspectives. And so here we are as adults on Earth.

Speaker 3 And we're thinking, yeah,

Speaker 3 I see the universe and I am here. And that's how it is.
And I tell you that if you feel small, for looking up and somehow you feel oppressed by the immensity of it all.

Speaker 3 Not to put words in your mouth, but I'm

Speaker 3 embellishing. You feel oppressed by this.
It's because

Speaker 3 you looked up with too large an ego to begin with.

Speaker 3 I'm important. I know who I am.
I got a show. I'm smart.
I got this. And I look, oh.

Speaker 3 So if instead you said, I

Speaker 3 most

Speaker 3 things of the universe, I don't know. And that's exciting because it means tomorrow we'll know more than we knew today, whether or not you're the actual one doing it.
Others are.

Speaker 3 And you're part of this great quest that our species has engaged in, a quest that's been going on for thousands of years.

Speaker 3 So when I look up and I realize that my atoms are part of this universe and they are traceable to stars that exploded and scattered, the stars made these atoms, scattered them into the galaxy, formed solar systems such as ours

Speaker 3 you we are not just figuratively

Speaker 3 of this universe we are in this universe and the universe is in us when i think about it on those terms i feel large i say i am part of the great unfolding of this cosmic story

Speaker 3 we are stardust

Speaker 3 brought to consciousness to understand the universe itself. Shit's heavy.
It's a good answer. That's heavy.
Are you ever going to go to space?

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 if it's going somewhere, yeah, I take the trip. But if we just go in orbit, boldly going where hundreds have gone before, no.

Speaker 3 Send me someplace interesting. And whoever builds the rocket, I want to make sure they sent their mother there and brought her back safely.
And then maybe I'll. Okay, but if it's NASA, I...

Speaker 3 I have a lot of respect for everything that you've accomplished. You're obviously a very intelligent guy.

Speaker 3 But if you turn down an opportunity to go to space, the word fraud is going to start getting thrown around there by people like us who have to have strong opinions.

Speaker 3 Like you've studied this your entire life and you're not even curious to get up there and be in it? No, no, no. So

Speaker 3 let's put this in brief context. So

Speaker 3 what NASA calls space,

Speaker 3 Let's ask ourselves where that is.

Speaker 3 So let's take a schoolroom globe, a foot across, a familiar schoolroom globe, and ask, how far away from that globe would you find the space station currently orbiting the globe?

Speaker 3 And so I'd ask you to put it at some distance, a few inches away, six inches a foot. I don't know where you would put it.
I'll tell you where it is.

Speaker 3 It's three eighths of an inch above Earth's surface.

Speaker 3 We are collectively calling that space, but I'm an astrophysicist and I'm not calling that space. That is low Earth orbit, and that's why I said it's like driving around the block.

Speaker 3 I would delight in the experience of feeling weightless but i don't have to go into space for that you can do that on on those airplanes that go in these trajectory the vomit comets where you just do this they filmed all of the movie apollo 13 all the weightless scenes legitimately in these sort of 30 second intervals where you can uh where you're weightless so i i would delight in having that experience but i don't need to go into space for that if you're going to send me into space send me farther away than three eighths of an inch from our planet what about being able to look back at the earth in outer space that must be a cool experience.

Speaker 3 You want that? Yeah, well, if you're only three-eighths of an inch up and you're looking down, you're not seeing much of the Earth. Okay.

Speaker 3 So that's another sort of delusional expectation for what happens when you just try that.

Speaker 3 Grab a Schooling global, go three-eighths of an inch up and ask yourself, how much of the Earth are you actually seeing?

Speaker 3 So the value of that is Earth.

Speaker 3 Earth rotates beneath you as you orbit around it. And so you see Earth turn.
And that's a, and you get, you know, 18 sunsets a day or something. Okay.
Or

Speaker 3 sunrises and sunsets. So that's fun.
That's beautiful. And it's called the overview effect.
What about a trip? Yeah, I'm going to go somewhere. A trip to the moon.

Speaker 3 Sure.

Speaker 3 You would accept a trip to the moon. Don.
Definitely. Okay, I'll get you.
I'll get on the phone with boys at night. I've got a movie account and a book and some good music.
I'm there. I'm all in.

Speaker 3 Perfect. Well, this has been awesome.
You are a recurring guest, so we will have you back on to answer questions that pop up.

Speaker 3 But, Neil degrasse tyson this has been fantastic thank you so much uh everyone watch cosmos on fox and uh we appreciate it excellent excellent thanks for having me

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Speaker 6 six college channels whenever somebody decides that they can't make it into work.

Speaker 3 Yes, you're actually one of the college channels you're on right below us. So on 84.
So you can find them all over Siri. Exactly.

Speaker 3 What time's that show?

Speaker 6 That is when, like, I said, whenever somebody decides they can't come into work, they call me. Like this morning, needed somebody on the Big 12 show, 26 minutes before showtime.

Speaker 3 hey let's text andy there we go and i i will also say andy not to really like pump up you know pump you pump your tires full of air here but you have the only cover art of a podcast that i subscribe to that i'm jealous that we don't have that because it has it's it's a neon bar sign and it catches my eyes every time a new podcast pops up so kudos to you on that yeah we i i just stole it from cocktail it's cocktails and dreams there you go it's me and tom cruise perfect perfect all right so let's talk some football.

Speaker 3 We have you on to talk a little SEC. We finally have SEC back this weekend.
We're going to talk about everything, but I think we need to start with the national champion, LSU Tigers, because

Speaker 3 people are not giving them any credit. People are saying they're going to suck.
People are saying they've lost everyone.

Speaker 3 Last I checked, they still have Derek Stingley, and also they have Bo Polini, who if you just have Bo Polini and Ed Ogeron in the same room, that will, the testosterone in that room will beat most teams.

Speaker 3 But how do you feel?

Speaker 3 Yeah, how do you feel about the Tigers this year? And are you buying the, they've lost everyone. It's not going to be a good team.

Speaker 6 No, they haven't lost everyone. That's the thing.
They did lose a bunch of good players, but you have to remember with Ellis, you have sort of a rite of passage.

Speaker 6 I mean, in the latter-day Les Miles era, they were losing. sometimes double-digit guys to the NFL.
So it's not like this program hasn't had to do this before. Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 6 You lost the Heisenber trophy winner. You lost the Blitnikoff winner.
You lost five first-round draft picks.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's tough, but they do have some really good players coming back because they recruited well.

Speaker 6 I mean, you look at Ed Orsron, I take that Mississippi State, the fact they're playing them is a pretty good little benchmark because...

Speaker 6 Ed Orsron's first full season in 2017, they go up to Starkville. They just get their butts kicked.
They were terrible.

Speaker 6 Their defensive line basically had three healthy defensive linemen by the end of the game.

Speaker 6 You'll be able to see how deep their recruiting has been in the last few years because they're going to roll out a two-deep defensive line that they feel very comfortable with.

Speaker 6 You know, they've got great receivers like Terrace Marshall. They've got a freshman named Eric Gilbert, who people are already talking about.
Maybe

Speaker 6 they're saying.

Speaker 6 He's the best high school tight end they've ever seen because he wasn't really even a tight end. He's more of a wide receiver.
So he's kind of got like Megatron size and speed.

Speaker 6 Ed Ordron did not want to put that on him when he got asked about it today, but he does have that skill set coming in and he's starting right away at tight end.

Speaker 6 Jabril Cox, who played linebacker at North Dakota State last few years, he's playing his last year at LSU. So, I mean, they've got talent.
It's not like they're going to fall off the map.

Speaker 6 The problem for them, I think, is people are looking at Alabama and they basically got everybody back and then got some more.

Speaker 6 And so I think they're just looking at, hey, Alabama is going to be really, really good this year. So can LSU possibly match that? I don't know if they can, but will LSU be good?

Speaker 6 Will they be interesting the entire season? Hell yeah, they will.

Speaker 3 So what is the strength of this LSU team going to be? What's their identity going to be?

Speaker 6 I think it may start out with being a better defense than an offense. I mean, last year, that offense was so good.
And there were games where the defense didn't quite have their best game.

Speaker 6 Like Grant Delphin was hurt a lot in the middle of the season, and the defense kind of suffered a little bit during some of those games. Like Alabama should not have been that close.

Speaker 6 Old miss in the second half. John Rice plumbly ran all over him.
But then you saw everybody got healthy.

Speaker 6 They were much better as the season went on. They were really good against Georgia, really good against Oklahoma, and Clemson's offense.
They shut him down like nobody had.

Speaker 6 So I think defensively, they're going to carry him at first, but I don't think it's going to be a drop off all of a sudden back to the dark ages offensively for them.

Speaker 6 They kept Steve Insminger, who the unsung hero. And I know you guys talk to Coach O all the time, and I'm sure he's told you this.
But Steve Insminger was the offensive coordinator last year.

Speaker 6 Joe Brady got a lot of the credit and deserved a lot of the credit. And now he's off to the Carolina Panthers to be the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 But Insminger, for a guy who's been doing this his whole life, he was calling plays when Joe Brady was in elementary school.

Speaker 6 He said basically, hey, Joe, you're coming in, teaching me the Saints offense. I'm going to listen.
And I'm going to help you learn how I call plays. And they were a great team.

Speaker 6 Now they bring in scott lenahan who's kind of the complete opposite ex-nfl coach you know he's he'd been an nfl head coach he's gonna learn from steve inzminger i think their offense is gonna be pretty good still i don't think it's gonna suddenly slip back into the offense they played every year toward the end of last miles beginning at a bed or run where we're like oh come on come on are they ever gonna throw to the tight end are they ever gonna do this are they ever gonna go up tempo i don't think i think those days are over i think they realized hey this works we're gonna keep doing i like miles brennan too, just because I read the story actually on The Athletic that he's never been to a movie theater.

Speaker 3 So I was like, okay, instantly, this is a football guy I can get behind,

Speaker 3 which is just a weird thing.

Speaker 6 And he just likes to save money, even though he comes from the Brennan family, Dickie Brennan's steakhouse and all that.

Speaker 3 But yeah,

Speaker 6 why spend all that money at the movie theater? It's coming out. It's coming out on HBO eventually.
Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 All right. So that's LSU.

Speaker 3 We're going to, I don't even want to talk about Alabama. They're fucking good.
Like, they're going to be good. They're going to be great.
Whatever.

Speaker 3 Especially, actually, here's my one Alabama question.

Speaker 3 How scary is it knowing that Nick Sabin was like scorned last year?

Speaker 3 The Alabama that doesn't make the playoffs, a revenge Nick Sabin, that has to add a little extra fear to all the SEC opponents knowing that he's out for blood.

Speaker 6 I don't think Nick Sabin changes at all. That's the thing.
It's what he makes them do is easier when they haven't just won.

Speaker 6 He likes to win, don't get me wrong, but he hates right after they win because everybody gets fat and happy. And he's trying to tell them, hey, you got to think about the next rep.

Speaker 6 Think about the next play.

Speaker 3 And they're like, we just want a national title. We're not thinking about that.

Speaker 6 And so when he comes off these years where they're not happy, and look, they beat Michigan in a bowl game, but there's one evening in the New York, New Year's Sixth Bowl.

Speaker 3 That's not good enough for Alabama. So yeah.

Speaker 6 It makes all that other stuff easier. It makes all those offseason workouts, you know, he doesn't have to light the the fire in it, and it's already there.

Speaker 6 It also doesn't hurt that they have guys like Evan Neal, who's like 6'7 ⁇ , 350. And they posted a video of him with these like 24-inch, you know, jump bags.

Speaker 6 And he's jumping up and doing a split squat on them at 350 pounds.

Speaker 6 It's not fair.

Speaker 3 Is he jumping out of the pool, though? I'm not impressed until he jumps out of a pool.

Speaker 3 He can do it.

Speaker 3 I will get.

Speaker 6 And they got the strength coaches that one of the strengths has a PhD. He's a doctor now.
So that's scary.

Speaker 6 They're going to make sure he gets that out-of-the-pool jump and then explain the physics behind it.

Speaker 3 You are right.

Speaker 3 I always heard that the worst practice, the worst week of practice for Alabama is not the Iron Bowl. It's not the SEC championship.
It's like when they play Western Kentucky and Nick Saban.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, it's Charleston Southern, Total.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and gets on their ass and knows that he's got to motivate them to play a team they're going to kill 100 out of 100 times. So that's basically Alabama's whole season.
Yeah,

Speaker 6 that was their entire offseason, and that's going to be exactly what their season will be because they didn't get what they were going to go.

Speaker 6 Because like Saban says it, nobody believes it, but I promise it's true. They don't talk about winning the national title.
They never do.

Speaker 6 Their whole thing is, how are you going to dominate this next thing you got to do? And it's the biggest cliche thing.

Speaker 3 We're going to take it one game at a time, one play at a time.

Speaker 6 But they actually break it down to like one rep at a time.

Speaker 6 It's it's sick. And no, no human being normally thinks like that, except maybe Nick Saban.
But he gets them all thinking like that.

Speaker 6 And when they all are, it's tough because they really don't care who they're playing. Like, it doesn't matter.
They're just like, oh, I got to be better than the rest of us.

Speaker 6 Which, at this point, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 But perhaps Nick Sabin might have taken it a little bit easy on himself this offseason because he did, in fact, have an extra two weeks of recruiting because he didn't have to go to the national championship game.

Speaker 3 I know that really pisses him off every year. Slacking.
Yeah, exactly. So he's got those two weeks in the bag, might be getting fat and happy.

Speaker 3 Now, the other Alabama school, Auburn, Gus Malzan, all I know about Gus Mozan is this:

Speaker 3 he will find a way to make the most money possible for himself, come hell or high water, whether that is increasing his buyout by like $30 million

Speaker 3 or by having an extremely well-timed season in which he performs to get a contract extension.

Speaker 3 So, my question for you is not necessarily like with Auburn, what's their record going to be, but what is the way that Gus Malzahn can maximize his earning potential via his team's record this year?

Speaker 6 See, you say it's Gus Malzahn. I say it is simply a fact that he and Jimmy and his agent understand the Auburn fan base.

Speaker 6 The Auburn fan base feels like if you, and look, Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia,

Speaker 6 they all kind of feel this way. Like if you don't win the national title, you failed.
But Auburn's fan base is just one step above.

Speaker 6 And the fact that Auburn is like a roller coaster program, they go from having great seasons to having terrible seasons. Like, it is, it is prime for increasing that buyout because you get them happy.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's basically,

Speaker 6 it's basically like an addiction. Like, you give them that hit in an odd year where you win the SEC West and then you take it away.
You deny, deny, deny.

Speaker 3 And you're like, oh.

Speaker 6 Price gone up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So they pay.

Speaker 6 And then you don't have to give them the good stuff for the next year because you're already set.

Speaker 6 And then, as soon as it starts to get a little dicey, and granted,

Speaker 6 they were trying to raise the money for his buyout in 2018, right after signing it.

Speaker 6 But as soon as it starts to get a little dicey, you win some more games, or you have a true freshman quarterback who looks like he's going to be pretty good.

Speaker 3 And you're like, yeah, okay, we keep a little longer. Yeah, true freshman quarterback for next year.
And you're like, okay, we're building on something right now. So, what is his buyout at right now?

Speaker 6 Okay, oh, I have to do the math on this. I want to say it's in the

Speaker 6 high high 20s, low 30s at this point. I think it was a 75% guarantee on the contract he signed after 17.
So it's still a ton of money. It's still way too much for anybody to pay.

Speaker 6 But if anybody's insane enough to do it,

Speaker 6 it's the Auburn fan base. And they like, would they do it during a pandemic?

Speaker 6 If he went 0-8 in the SEC, they would. Well, the 0-10 in the SEC, they would.

Speaker 3 I don't think that's going to happen this year.

Speaker 6 I think they'll be pretty good, but they're in a tricky win this week.

Speaker 6 Kentucky is not the team I want to open up against. Kentucky's got a really good offensive line.

Speaker 6 Mark Stoop's teams, they're not super flashy or exciting.

Speaker 6 The phrase I've the best phrase I can come up with is relentlessly competent. But the thing is, Auburn

Speaker 6 is so high and so low all the time. If you catch Auburn on the right and you are relentlessly competent, you can win that game.

Speaker 6 And this is one where if Auburn loses to Kentucky, there's really no shame in that, but they will be in the jar because they got to play Georgia next week.

Speaker 3 It was also a really nice way of you saying that Bo Nick sucks. So I appreciate that.
I don't think Bo Nick's sucks. I think he sucks.

Speaker 6 I think Bo Nick can be good.

Speaker 3 Now, if Bo Nick's name wasn't Bo Nick's moments, if Bo Nick's name wasn't Bo Nick's, he would have half the hype. That's probably true, but

Speaker 6 he's still built like a Gus Malzon quarterback. He's built for what they want to do.

Speaker 6 I feel like if the quarterback's a run threat, then it makes the passing game easier. There's just some things he did did last year where he was a true freshman.

Speaker 6 He was in those moments like the play in Gainesville where he just kept going backward.

Speaker 3 Okay. He's not going to do that this year.

Speaker 6 He's going to eat that ball, live to fight another day. I think, I think that's going to be a better deal for them.

Speaker 6 And they also have Chad Morris now, which he was awful as Arkansas's head coach, but he was really good as Clemson's offensive coordinator. He was really good offensively as a head coach at the SMU.

Speaker 6 And Gus and Chad get along great. Like when Gus was the head coach at Springdale High in Arkansas and Chad was the head coach at Stephenville High in Texas, they were sharing notes all the time.

Speaker 6 So, and I think having two former great high school head coaches on the sideline in this season is critical.

Speaker 6 Because what happens when you find out you've lost like 18 guys to contact tracing, but not so many that you can't play the game? Like you're going to have to be moving corners to receiver and doing.

Speaker 3 High school coaches are built for that. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 I'm also very biased with Bonix because I had a very large bet on Oregon last year. No, Oregon won.
And he pulled that fucking game out of his ass.

Speaker 3 I remember sitting there being like, none of these throws are good, and he just keeps completing them.

Speaker 3 It's a general rule of thumb that when Big Cat has an axe to grind one way or the other against any gambling-related reason, there's a very specific gambling-related game that is good. He's not good.

Speaker 3 He's not good.

Speaker 3 But I do want to, so you mentioned Kentucky, which is a good segue because I want to talk about the SEC East being probably better than it has been for a very long time, at least deeper, with Kentucky being good, Florida and Georgia both being top five teams, and Tennessee maybe feels like 98.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 how do you get a bunch of people? Coach Doug. Coach Doug.
You drink a lot of screws Kool-Aid is Coach Doug. Yeah.
I'm a Vault. I'm Vault for life.
All right. So tell us, those four teams,

Speaker 3 what has to happen for each one to maybe win the SEC East? I'd assume your Florida Gators are going to be the favorite. They are the favorite.

Speaker 6 I'm still a little surprised by that because I keep saying I'm not picking them against Georgia until I see them beat Georgia just because of the recruiting gap.

Speaker 6 I'm a big recruiting rankings matter person. Not individually, but in the aggregate they matter.

Speaker 6 If you just sign a bunch more five stars than somebody else, you're probably going to win most of those games. It's sort of like the OFFC Michigan thing.

Speaker 3 That's what the Falcons do with draft picks, yeah. Wait, we should

Speaker 3 incorporate anything, by the way.

Speaker 3 Instead of just doing the draft picks, we should look at NFL teams and be like, how many five-star coming out of high school guys guys do they have yeah get a real advantage that's literally just rooting for michigan football yeah uh andy hold on did i was it you who wrote the article about which which teams could like make the leap or which teams could be yeah yeah that's okay me and max also yeah you are you are a big recruit guy because you bashed wisconsin and wisconsin makes five stars out of no stars that's exactly although They did just get a five-star offensive lineman out of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 6 But his brother plays tight end there, and he's an offensive lineman. And why wouldn't you go to Wisconsin if you're an offensive lineman?

Speaker 3 I'm taking, I actually took, when I saw that he did that, I

Speaker 3 quote treated and said, is Wisconsin becoming a five-star powerhouse? And he retweeted it. So I took 10% credit for recruiting him, even though his brother already plays.
So whatever.

Speaker 6 Well, I was going to say, is Graham Mertz going to start, though? Because that's the thing. That's the highest grade quarterback they've ever signed.
Yes. Are they ready for that?

Speaker 6 Are they ready for the Prima Donna's to come with five-star?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't think these guys are, but it does tend to happen a little bit.

Speaker 3 Yes. All right.
We'll have you back on for Big Ten. But yes, I like what you're saying, but let's go back to SEC East.
So Florida has to beat Georgia. You're not going to believe it till it happens.

Speaker 3 Is there any world where you could see Kentucky or Tennessee? Like, how live of kind of dogs are they for the SEC, the top spot in the SEC East?

Speaker 6 I don't know about winning the championship, but the way this season could go, if you look at the talent level at Tennessee especially,

Speaker 6 on the wrong day, if Georgia or Florida is missing the wrong guy or two, suddenly that becomes a much more even game. And I think that's the thing people are forgetting.

Speaker 6 SEC teams recruit at a pretty high level. You know, you'll have some team finish like seventh in the SEC and 14th in the country.

Speaker 6 And what that means is you take a couple key guys off the favored team. All of a sudden, it's a much different matchup.
I mean, shoot, South Carolina beat Georgia last year.

Speaker 6 And Georgia is a lot better team than South Carolina normally.

Speaker 6 But yeah, I would say South Carolina, Kentucky, and Tennessee, all of them are teams you need to worry about when they're on your schedule.

Speaker 6 Like Georgia has to play at Kentucky the week after they play at Alabama.

Speaker 3 That sucks.

Speaker 6 Like, I would not want to do that if I was Georgia because no matter what happens against Alabama, you're then walking in against a team that wants to kill you because you are the best team in the division, and then that may be good enough to, depending on how, you know, how your injury injury situation is.

Speaker 6 So that's the issue that all the teams in the East have. Florida's got to deal with that when they play those teams too.
Georgia is interesting to me because they're changing their offense.

Speaker 6 They bring in Todd Muncin. He's a new offensive coordinator.
The idea is they want to do what LSU did last year, but

Speaker 6 making a leap like LSU did, let's be honest, that's probably not going to happen. But if their offense is a little bit better,

Speaker 6 Georgia is going to be really good because Georgia's got everybody back on defense. They were already one of the best defenses in the country last year.

Speaker 6 So, if they are slightly functional on offense, it could get real interesting.

Speaker 6 And the whole quarterback situation is wild, though, because Jamie Newman starts at Wake Forest for two years, goes to Georgia as a grad transfer, gets into the competition in practice, and then opts out.

Speaker 6 JT Daniels started at USC two years ago, was the opening day starter, hurt his knee. Keenanus Lovis comes in, doesn't look back.
So he transfers to Jordan. He's not medically clear to play yet.

Speaker 6 Dewan Mathis was committed to Ohio State. Justin Fields decides to transfer there.
So Dewan Mathis flips to Georgia

Speaker 6 and then finds out he's got a cyst on his brain. So he missed all last season after emergency brain surgery.

Speaker 6 So if Dewan Mathis has grown the way the people around the program say he has, because he came in as like a James Blackman type string bean, like he was 6'6, 205.

Speaker 6 They say he's like 6'6 ⁇ , 225 now, which is basically the size Justin Herbert was as a freshman at Oregon. And he can run a little bit.
So he has a good arm.

Speaker 6 He's probably your day one starter against Arkansas. And obviously you're going to be able to ease yourself in a little bit against Arkansas.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 6 if that offense is more dynamic, if it does work better, and look, they've got good backs, Zamir White, they've got George Pickens, who one of the best receivers in the country.

Speaker 6 All of a sudden, George is a team that can win the national title if that quarterback is the right guy. But that's the question.
Florida, meanwhile, knows they have the right guy, quarterback.

Speaker 3 That SEC East is fascinating to me because, yes, Georgia, Florida, I would not be surprised if either one of those two teams won. And then Kentucky,

Speaker 3 they'll be towards the top, but they'll also play spoiler. And then you have South Carolina lingering at the bottom, but they're liable to just kick anyone's ass week in and week out.

Speaker 6 South Carolina's got a long-haired quarterback again.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So it's not as long as Steve Tannehill, but it's longer than Stephen Garcia. Okay.
Steven Garcia beat Alabama.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, those floppy hair

Speaker 3 weirdos in South Carolina. Like, Must Champ Carolina stink.

Speaker 3 Must

Speaker 3 remembers how to coach one week a year, and you don't know what week that's going to be.

Speaker 3 Like, if you were to look at their schedule right now, could you identify, like, oh, yeah, this is the one where Musk Champ remembers to put on deodorant and brushes his teeth and wakes up on time and gets together.

Speaker 6 I could argue that the year that the week that beat Georgia last year was not his most shining moment.

Speaker 6 There were some calls down the stretch in that game that weren't great. But

Speaker 6 I'm telling you, they're an interesting one because his defenses are almost always good. And his new offensive coordinator is Mike Bobo, who was a quarterback when he played at Georgia.

Speaker 6 And so all of the offensive coordinators that Will Mos James has had to this point, I guess other than maybe Charlie Weiss in that first year at Florida, were guys that, you know, he could boss around and they'd do whatever he said.

Speaker 6 And if he yelled, they'd jump and go do something else.

Speaker 3 Mike Bobo ain't going to do that.

Speaker 6 He could turn around and look at him and go,

Speaker 6 whatever. and then just keep doing what he's doing.
That may be what South Carolina needs. That may be the thing that finally gets them over the hump offensively.

Speaker 3 They need a little bit more Spurrier back in their system, just to like, who cares?

Speaker 6 Well, and that's the thing: MuskChamp is low-key closer to Spurrier than he is to anybody else.

Speaker 6 Like, there was a moment where they did one of those ESPN car washes back when Spurrier was coaching South Carolina, MuskChamp was coaching Florida. And

Speaker 6 there was a storm, so none of the planes could take off.

Speaker 6 So they're sitting in this private hangar, and all these coaches, you know, big egos, they all grab their phones, they go call recruits or whatever.

Speaker 6 Musk champ and Spurrier are split in like a six-pack of cores. So he wants to be Steve Spurrier.
If you get him off the record, he's as funny as Steve Spurrier.

Speaker 6 But I don't think he feels like he's allowed to do that publicly unless he wins more.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So we could get a very funny Will Musk champ if he'd start winning more.

Speaker 3 All right. So

Speaker 3 by the way, I couldn't believe when I was looking at the games this weekend, I can't believe, and this is going to hurt you.

Speaker 3 Maybe it doesn't hurt you, but your former quarterback, I can't believe I still get to bet against Felipe Franks in college football.

Speaker 3 My eyes like bugged out, and I was like, holy shit, he's the Arkansas quarterback. Thank God.
I hope he plays forever.

Speaker 3 But out of the.

Speaker 3 There's no crowd for him to shush now. That's true.
He's his home crowd.

Speaker 3 Out of the schools, Arkansas, Sam Pittman, Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss, and Mike Leach at Mississippi State, out of those three schools, new coaches in the SEC West, which of those three teams is going to look like a competent team quickest?

Speaker 3 Leach's team.

Speaker 6 Leach takes over the best roster.

Speaker 6 This is still a better roster than from a talent standpoint than Mike Leach has ever had, either at Texas Tech or at Washington State.

Speaker 6 Now, the problem is the competition jumps up quite a bit from what he was seeing there.

Speaker 6 So I don't know that net, it's all that big of a difference, but this is definitely the most talented roster he's ever had. Lane's got some work to do on his roster.

Speaker 6 I heard him talking to y'all the other day, and you know, he feels like in maybe three years or so that he can get it going, but he's, he's got to get a different,

Speaker 6 especially defensively, he's got to get a different roster. He's got to flip it.
And he's got some good skill guys. But also,

Speaker 6 I saw he went with the,

Speaker 6 I did the low energy line reading to get on Sports Center.

Speaker 6 He did that with me too when I asked him about it.

Speaker 6 I don't know if you saw the thing that came out on Thursday.

Speaker 3 He did it again. But, oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 I think he just may be a low energy teleprompter guy because I don't think this is getting him on Sports Center.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the last one was low energy, but not bad enough to the point where everybody's talking about it. It's just like, wow, I hope he's okay.
Someone checks his blood sugar.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, and it's bad to be low energy when you have to say the phrase hottie toddy because it's like, hotty toddy. Right.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 6 We'll see you at the Vought. Yes.

Speaker 3 So you think that Leech is going to have a relatively easy transition, which, I mean, I get it because he's got a stacked roster that he's inheriting. but also

Speaker 6 I don't think it's going to be easy. I still think they're from a, I mean, they're in the West, right?

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 6 Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Texas A ⁇ M have better rosters.

Speaker 3 Right. But you think he's closest enough

Speaker 3 to being competent and looking like a good football team, which is interesting because, like, his, everything that he's done in the past has not been, you know, what you think of when you think of SEC football.

Speaker 3 It feels like there's going to be a transition period, at least for, you know, the offense to learn his concepts and be able to pick him up. And then the fan fan base being like, what?

Speaker 3 We're scoring 45, 55 points a game? How is this possible?

Speaker 3 There's going to be a little bit of pushback as well if you're getting into these shootouts and then losing them. But you think that his offense can translate pretty early on?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think so. I think they've got good enough athletes.
And then you bring in KJ Costello, who remember, I mean, he learned a very complex offense and ran it pretty well at Stanford.

Speaker 6 So it's not that hard for him to come in and learn the air rate. A smart quarterback can come in and learn the air rate.
Look at Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 6 I mean, he hadn't run that offense until he got to Washington State, and he was fantastic in it.

Speaker 6 And Costello, another smart guy with a good arm who's got a little gunslinger in him, I think that's probably the right kind of guy for that offense.

Speaker 6 So I do think they're going to come along pretty fast. I think Lane offensively may have some success early on.
I'm very curious to see what he does.

Speaker 6 from a quarterback standpoint, because he's got Matt Corral, who's a thrower. He's got John Rice Plumley, who's a great runner.

Speaker 6 They really would have to create two different offenses for those two guys. But Lane will do it.
And so I'm curious to see that.

Speaker 6 The problem with Lane's team is I'm not sure defensively they have the roster to hang. And then Arkansas needs a ton of work.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I could see Leech coming in.

Speaker 6 And remember, Leech has coached in the league before. Now, granted, it was a while back in Kentucky, but he knows the type of bodies he's dealing with.
He's seen all that. So

Speaker 6 I think it will be, it will look better from them. The question is, can they upset somebody? Can they beat Texas AM? Can they beat Auburn?

Speaker 6 Because if they can, then you should get real excited about what Mike Leach can do in the SEC.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What about Jimbo Fisher? I feel like we've all forgotten.
Texas AM has got to be.

Speaker 3 We've all forgotten about Jimbo Fisher for the last two years, and this feels like the offseason that he's lurking because nobody's talking about him.

Speaker 3 You feel like they might have a chance in the West?

Speaker 6 This is the year they were supposed to be really good. This is what everybody pointed to when he got the job because, you know, they don't have to play Clemson.

Speaker 6 They had the home and home against Clemson. They don't have Georgia this year.
They had Georgia last year. And it was supposed to be a 9-10 win type team in the normal 12-game schedule.

Speaker 6 I think the dynamics change when you go to a 10-game SEC-only schedule because all of a sudden, 7-3 is a really good season. 7-3 is better than what you've been.

Speaker 6 6-4 is probably about the minimum for what they're going to be happy with.

Speaker 6 And the problem is that's not going to be easy to get to because you got to play Alabama, you got to play Auburn, you got to play LSU, you got to play Florida.

Speaker 6 So it is going to be a tough road for them to get where they want. And they're not going to be happy if they don't.

Speaker 3 They're not going to be happy.

Speaker 6 I think they got to win seven or eight games for them to feel like, okay, this investment is worth it. And it looks like it's going to pay off.
Now, they probably can,

Speaker 6 depending on how the games go, because.

Speaker 6 I think Texas A ⁇ M, as far as teams who didn't have spring practice and when things were kind of up in the the air, they're in a good place, kind of like Florida, where you've got a returning starting quarterback coming back who's been in this offense before, a bunch of offensive linemen who've been in this offense.

Speaker 6 They had a bunch of receivers who'd been in this offense. Now they don't.
Jamon Osmond was kind of him coming back was a big thing. Well, then he's opted out now.

Speaker 6 They were going to have this great two tight end lineup with Jalen Weidermeyer and Baylor Cup. Baylor Cup

Speaker 6 out for his whole freshman year with an injury. Now he's out for his whole sophomore year with an injury.
So

Speaker 6 they're going to be a little bit different, but they it's going to be

Speaker 6 if they've got some freshmen who are good. And they got a kid named Damon Demas, who's a receiver.
Who, if you watch his video from high school, it's insane.

Speaker 6 And if he's half as good as he looks on the high school tape, he's going to be good. Can you spell that?

Speaker 3 And then they got a guy named I'm a big eyeball test on uh high school highlight films.

Speaker 6 Damon D. You don't even need the high school highlight film.
You need the high school like doing back flips at the all-star game. Damon Davis.

Speaker 3 How do you spell Damon?

Speaker 6 Damon, D, D-D-E-M-O-N-D

Speaker 6 Deemas. D-E-M-A-S.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah. It's one of those, it's the ultimate cat nip for like the downtrodden fan base because these are the people on the A ⁇ M.

Speaker 3 He just

Speaker 3 remember he did a back.

Speaker 3 He's doing like seven backflips.

Speaker 3 Texas A ⁇ M is definitely the team that got like coronavirus changing the schedule.

Speaker 3 They were going to be probably 9-1, 10-0, and everyone was going to be pumping them up because they had no one at the start of their schedule. So they're kind of screwed.

Speaker 3 Let me ask you one last question.

Speaker 3 It is the beefy question. Go to butcherbox.com/slash PMT to receive quality meats delivered to your door now.

Speaker 3 I did the beefy question for you, Andy. You are a famous eater.
I think I could say that because you're like in good shape. So it's not a mean thing to say.

Speaker 3 I am beefy. No,

Speaker 3 look, I'm still a little fat.

Speaker 6 I started intermittent fasting in January and lost like 40 pounds, but I still eat the same amount in one sitting.

Speaker 3 Well, you can use the Paul Chris line that was said earlier today. He's got a hint of fat ass.
That's what he called himself when he was out.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. You didn't see that? Put that.
He said, stitch that into a pillow.

Speaker 6 I'm going to put that on my couch.

Speaker 3 Someone asked him about the sweatshirts he wears, and he's like, well, when you got a hint of fat ass like me, you can't wear anything too restrictive around the neck.

Speaker 3 That's perfect. That is perfect.

Speaker 6 And from the man that came up with turnover chain, my

Speaker 3 Yeah. Because he made sure to put his hand over his mouth.
No, no, no, no. His mom would have been very upset.
So my last question was, this slate, this Saturday, give us a

Speaker 3 side or whatever total, whatever, or maybe even just like a team you're looking for that's going to be, people are doubting that you're looking to have a good game on Saturday.

Speaker 6 South Carolina against Tennessee. I don't know why.
It's one of those things where you could give me like 98 different possible outcomes of that game. I would believe every every one of them.

Speaker 6 Every one of them would seem incredible and plausible to me. So I'm saying South Carolina against Tennessee.
Okay, so that's going to surprise some people with their long-haired QB.

Speaker 3 All right. I like that.
I love it. Can you give me over-under on LSU Mississippi State?

Speaker 3 This will be the staples lock through the game. I don't think it's going to be as boring

Speaker 6 as we think.

Speaker 3 Hmm.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go.

Speaker 6 I am going to go 71.5.

Speaker 3 That's what you're guessing, guessing, or that's what you're saying it's going to be?

Speaker 6 That's my guess.

Speaker 3 I'm just guessing. So take the old.
I know, I know.

Speaker 6 Listen,

Speaker 6 they're thinking these offenses won't be ready. I'm thinking these offenses will be ready.
But I think LSU's offering would be a little bit more ready.

Speaker 6 And LSU's defense is going to is going to make some stops.

Speaker 6 And maybe it's a little like the ole missed game for LSU last year, where there's a bunch of points in the second half that don't necessarily affect the outcome.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that pissed me off.

Speaker 3 I'm sure it did. Because, I mean, if you were betting on LSU every game last year, you were making money.
Like, it was hand over fist.

Speaker 6 And then John Rice Plumley just starts mowing through everybody.

Speaker 3 That was an awesome game for the live over. All right.
Well, Andy, thank you so much. We appreciate it.
We'll have you back on later on in the season. It's great to just have college football back.

Speaker 3 Thank God. Yes.
Go listen to Andy Staples' podcast. Listen to him on SiriusXM.
Find him on the Athletic. Thanks, Andy.

Speaker 3 Andy, despite you and Big Cat's best efforts, we do have college football, even though you guys tried to stop it.

Speaker 3 We tried.

Speaker 6 I definitely did not want the season that provides my livelihood. Yes, me too.

Speaker 3 But I'm glad it's here now. Yes.
All right. Thanks.
Thanks, man. See you guys.

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Speaker 3 All right, let's get some segments. Richard New Fire Fest will recap the Lakers Nuggets.
The Nuggets did lose. What did they lose by? Six.
Fuck!

Speaker 3 And it was a dribble out, too.

Speaker 3 There was about 20 seconds left, and the Nuggets easily could have fouled.

Speaker 3 I had Nuggets six and a half. God.
Sorry to rub it in. Damn it.
Yeah. Did you have Lakers six and a half?

Speaker 3 Damn.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. It was fun.
It was bad. You know exactly what I had.
No, I thought you had six. It was six or six and a half.
I thought maybe you had six.

Speaker 3 It was bullshit. The Nuggets could have fouled.
Yeah, I know. They could have fouled.
I know it's foul. They easily could have fouled.
Why do you quit on your team, Nuggets coach? Yeah.

Speaker 3 And they did the thing, which is even worse, they did the fake foul, like where they were looking like they were about to foul and then one pass and they just gave up.

Speaker 3 NBA teams actually do need help in committing fouls. Well, they don't foul.
Well, they're dumb. It's not like college because guys make free throws.
So it's not. You have to know how to foul.

Speaker 3 I would be an excellent foul coach. They They give up.
They give up. All you do is you just grab the jersey and just pull the jersey out.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That doesn't work against Jokic, so the Lakers shot 35 free throws. The Nuggets shot 23.

Speaker 3 Also, Jamal Murray, even though they lost, had some of the most ridiculous baskets I've ever seen. That one where he went up and under LeBron was insane.
And we're a Nuggets podcast.

Speaker 3 Yes, that was crazy.

Speaker 3 Layups sometimes are better than dunks. I stand by the fact that there should be a layup contest instead of a dunk contest.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Dunks are. I'm done with dunks.

Speaker 3 Anyone can dunk. Anyone can dunk.
I can get rim.

Speaker 3 Once I can do it,

Speaker 3 then it's not cool anymore. Anyone can dunk.
Not everyone can make a layup.

Speaker 3 Actually, probably if you can, well, if you can make a layup, you could probably... If you can dunk, you'd probably make a layup.
I don't think Shaq can do a layup. Yeah, that's probably true.

Speaker 3 Or dunk now. Or dunk now.
No, he definitely can still dunk. Just like

Speaker 3 six inches. Yeah, I think I saw him rip off a rim a couple weeks ago.
You know what the NBA also needs to do? They need to go back to making baskets that can get torn down.

Speaker 3 There was nothing as exciting as when Shaq would dunk and just almost kill somebody. Absolutely.
We pay your salary, NBA. Feed me entertainment.
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 So now we get a bunch of jokes about how the Nuggets are down 3-1 right where they want the Lakers.

Speaker 3 So that was funny. I saw like, you know, when it's coming, and then you just refresh your Twitter, and there's...

Speaker 3 already like 25 tweets about it. Did you hear that Bob Kraft got off? Yeah.
By the way, people

Speaker 3 are stealing that joke from you. You TM'd it.
Happy ending. I I TM'd it, so I'm getting residuals from it.
So I'm fine. You got to get early on these things.
Yes. All right, Fire Fest.

Speaker 3 Let's finish up with Fire Fest, and then we will see everyone on Monday after a glorious football game. Can I just start with my Fire Fest? Because Hank's probably going to try to steal it from me.

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest is that Hank beat me in ping pong today, even though he did blow a huge lead in the second game. I came back and just absolutely destroyed him in that game.
Wow, that did Firefest for me.

Speaker 3 I was wondering, you were going to try to twist it in some weird, convoluted way. No, I respect the segment.
This is

Speaker 3 I'm dedicated to sorrows and terrible things that happened to you in the past week. That was one of my greatest accomplishments.
Now I have to deal with condescending Hank for the next well.

Speaker 3 But we did make a bet after the game was over on Stool Streams. Next time, if I beat Hank, I get Norm.
I get his dog. Ooh.
Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 3 Agree? Disagree. Disavow.
To what part of it?

Speaker 3 The bet part. Okay.
Sounds like you're not that confident. Mm-hmm.
No, I mean, I don't know. Sounds like you're a coward.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 If you loved your dog,

Speaker 3 you'd let it go.

Speaker 3 I bet. To a more alpha man.

Speaker 3 Actually, that's right, Hank, because if it were to come to live with me, then you would only know that it would love you if it would go home, if it would make the long journey home seven blocks.

Speaker 3 This is like the Midas thing or whatever it's called. I have faith in Norman.
He would. Okay.
Well, then let him live with me. Rip your face off.
Okay.

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest is that with everything, it's more of like a sad, like not really something bad that happened to me, more just like sad. You know, I kind of look out in the world and everything going on.

Speaker 3 With everything going on in the United States right now, it is profoundly sad that hundreds and maybe thousands feel passionate about how Bill Belichick dresses for a press conference in this world.

Speaker 3 Oh, God, people.

Speaker 3 God. Who said that? Peter King.

Speaker 3 Jesus Christ, Peter.

Speaker 3 Is Peter going to get mad about hot dog eating, too? Smoked weed ones.

Speaker 3 That's right. He's

Speaker 3 stoner. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It gave Peter flashbacks to the time that he was just like getting high in his buddy's room. He's wearing like a patchouli vest.
Doobie Brothers. Peter King, you owe us still for In-N-Out Burger.

Speaker 3 Told waiter in Milwaukee, Did you see what happened to Bill Belichick? No.

Speaker 3 Had a messed up sweatshirt on and the internet was angry. Thought he would cry.

Speaker 3 No, my actual Fire Fest, I was, it's not really Fire Fest, but I it kind of was. Not ideal.
Going to work, getting on the subway.

Speaker 3 Realize I need to refill my card, but it was like as the train was coming. And so I...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It all makes sense.

Speaker 3 Like, of course, Peter King is going to defend somebody who dresses like a slob. Yes.
That should not have been a good one. Who's wearing a sweatshirt from 30 years? Yes.

Speaker 3 And it's not even dressing like a slob. It's just that people care about everything going on in the world.
That's true.

Speaker 3 How could you care? Look at Fitzpatrick right now.

Speaker 3 White pants, Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned down to his belly button. Coward better have some shit to say about this tomorrow.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 But I was going to, I was like, made the move to quickly just jump over the train thing and then get on the train and as I was I basically like turned and like started to do it and as I did that I made eye contact with like there was a security guard right there.

Speaker 3 So I had to stop and then jump the turnstile. No, I was about to

Speaker 3 in in in in rush situations when it's like the train's coming you just fucking hop over there and get on I was about to do that and there was a guy right there and I was like okay never mind with your injury luck recently it's it's probably better that you didn't try to jump over it What injury luck?

Speaker 3 You came in with your

Speaker 3 prime athlete. You came in with your entire arm looking like ground beef two weeks ago.
That was nothing injury luck. Okay, but that was it.
Bye, Billy. Does that bother you?

Speaker 3 Billy, what's your fire fest?

Speaker 3 Billy, do you have no shoelaces? Because you're afraid you're going to like...

Speaker 3 Is this like Suicide Watch? Yeah. No.
What's going on here? No,

Speaker 3 I took the shoelaces out because...

Speaker 3 You don't know how to time.

Speaker 3 Happy Gilmore. The Timbs are easier just to be slip in, slip out.
Got it. The Tim's.
Would you own anything?

Speaker 3 This is why I love having you here, Billy, because... And this is genuine.
I'm not going to say something mean.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to say something mean.

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 3 seeing someone go through their Tim's phase again, like, I'm, like, reliving my youth. I love it.

Speaker 3 I just,

Speaker 3 this is all genuine.

Speaker 3 Everyone had a Tim phase. Like, I loved wearing that back in the day.
Do you have your toe shoes on underneath there? Is that why you took the shoelace out?

Speaker 3 So you can, like, you're never nude except for your feet. This is totally fine.
You're always wearing those vibrums. This is totally genuine, Billy.
I love seeing you go through

Speaker 3 life like we all went through life.

Speaker 3 I like Tim's. I like you.
They're easy to sleep in. I like you, too.
Alright. Great.
We should date. Maybe.
My fire fest. Fuck me.
It's Tina.

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest of the week is that I wasn't able to be in Philly with you guys

Speaker 3 for a personal reason. Last week, yeah.
But my other Fire Fest is that I missed my exit on the way home. And if I miss my exit, then I have to drive

Speaker 3 10 more more miles and just adds like 20 minutes onto my commute.

Speaker 3 So how many miles an hour were you going?

Speaker 3 10 miles, 20 minutes. Oh, geez, one of these math problems? Well, I also have to go back.
So if I was going 60 miles per hour. So you're going 20 miles total.
Right.

Speaker 3 So 20 minutes. So about 60 miles per hour.

Speaker 3 Still get speeding tickets. Anyway, that was my Firefest of the week.
You missed your exit.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry, Billy. Also, it's one of those ones.

Speaker 3 I almost missed the train. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Billy. Well, at least I didn't steal from the government.
I didn't. You did.
No, you wanted to. I thought about it.
I can't believe you're one of those people. He's stealing from de Blasio.

Speaker 3 This is a Robin Hood situation. No, if you take from de Blasio and give to yourself, I say that's fair.
No, de Blasio steals from the business. You love de Blasio.
Listen to you.

Speaker 3 Listen to you, big de Blasio definitely.

Speaker 3 You're a huge Blasio guy.

Speaker 3 Nope. Blase, Blase, Blase.

Speaker 3 Blase. Did he share the same name?

Speaker 3 I don't think that's his real name.

Speaker 3 No, I'm serious.

Speaker 3 Look it up. He changed his name.
What? From what? Like, Fred? Seriously, he changed his name to sound Italian. So he'd win in New York.
He's not a nice name. But you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 He changed his first name? He was born Warren Wilhelm. Whoa!

Speaker 3 Billy! No, dude, he's a fucking fraud. Billy, that is

Speaker 3 fuck him. I don't want to get fucking pointed at that.
All right, my Fire Fest of the Week is ever doubting Billy. Holy shit, dude.
That's fucking sick. I need to go jump some turnstiles.
I need

Speaker 3 Wilhelm? Warren Wilhelm Jr. There's no more WASPI like Walt.
He sounds like he was... He's not even from New York.
Where's he from?

Speaker 3 Born in Manhattan. Yeah.
That makes

Speaker 3 me live.

Speaker 3 But, Billy, this is

Speaker 3 NYU in Columbia. This is incredible, Billy.
Good job. No, but where did he live? Dude, no, no, he moved out.

Speaker 3 How about his... How about, like, how much do you have to hate your dad to be Warren Wilhelm Jr.
and then be like, I'm changing everything about my name? How did you change it?

Speaker 3 How do you change into the world? Is it going to be something like he had to change it because of something

Speaker 3 tragic? Was he related to Kaiser Wilhelm?

Speaker 3 Probably. Probably.
Is that

Speaker 3 the first

Speaker 3 World War I bad guy?

Speaker 3 So he changed. That's what he described.

Speaker 3 He changed his name to Warren de Blasio Wilhelm in 1983 and finally to Bill de Blasio. He killed the guy of one one to honor his maternal family.
Bullshit. Fuck that.
Bullshit. Cock it.

Speaker 3 Fuck de Blasio. Yeah.
I'll say that on the podcast. Wow.
He's true to the national podcast. McDonald.
And they're Wilhelms, I assume. That's going to be weird.
All right. Anything else?

Speaker 3 No, my mind is very blown from figuring out that de Blasio is a stolen Valor Italian.

Speaker 3 Philly just surprises us. I need to show a little more competence so I get involved in more places.

Speaker 3 Competence. Confidence.
No, competence, no confidence. You don't have the competence, you need to show the confidence.
If you, I have the confidence, you need more competence. No, you don't.

Speaker 3 No, you don't. Uh-uh.
I'm pretty, I think I'm confident. No, you just said, I think

Speaker 3 I'm confident would be a good way to say that.

Speaker 3 I am confident. Wait, am I not confident? That's better, Billy.
Let's write on that. Yeah.
But you're not competent.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm trying to be more competent. Or confident.
You need both. You need to get

Speaker 3 rhino horns

Speaker 3 are made out of the same material as your hair and nails. It's keratin.
Love you guys. Also, should we pick a number?

Speaker 3 What do you got? What do we got? What do we got? I got 76.

Speaker 3 17. 18.
151. 76.

Speaker 3 17.

Speaker 3 7. 170.
76. 57.

Speaker 3 76.

Speaker 3 84. Nothing will ever.
I'm still chasing the high from Buster Coach.

Speaker 3 Nothing will ever happen.

Speaker 3 Today isn't my day to find you. Shy away.

Speaker 3 Oh, I've been coming for your love of Kate.

Speaker 3 Shy away.

Speaker 3 So I've been coming for your love of K.

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