Joe Montana, Akon, And Billys Frog Died (RIP Bertha)

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have a twofer showing some range. We've got Hall of Famer Joe Montana on the show.
Joe Cool, comeback kid. And then we also have Akon,

Speaker 1 who is a legend in his own right. Rapper, maybe building a city in Africa that we talk to him about extensively.
He's got his own Bitcoin called ACOIN.

Speaker 1 Really fascinating interview.

Speaker 1 Awesome interview that was actually one where hank uh we we have a process of of who we like agreed to have like as guests hank didn't even ask us he was just like yeah we're gonna do a con and then when it popped up we're like fuck yeah we're gonna do a con so we have that we have um nba playoffs starting up hockey playoffs in uh we're balls deep in hockey playoffs and who's back of the week lucy's the obvious choice for a true nicotine pouch connoisseurs that's why they're official nicotine pouch partner of barstool sports they go up to 12 milligrams in strength and have unique shape that feels great.

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Today is Monday, August 17th.

Speaker 1 Boys, there's so many fucking sports. It's awesome.
It's great. Every day, every day, afternoon, before you go to bed, you turn the TV on and there's sports on.

Speaker 1 There's meaningful sports on everywhere. Everywhere.
As far as the eye can see. It's an overload of sports, unless you're a Cardinals fan.
Well, I guess they came back this week. They came back.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's been... And they had four home runs in a row hit on them.
Yeah, they did. That was awesome.

Speaker 1 I forgot just how heartbreaking it is to be a hockey fan in the playoffs when your team stinks with Capital S. All right, so let's start there.

Speaker 1 Do you think the Caps maybe regret not signing Barry Trots? Considering the fact that he's working right now. He is working.

Speaker 1 Now, Barry Trots has never been a master tactician of any sort, but Todd Reardon,

Speaker 1 he does look like Kevin Malone behind the bench every game, just like if he's spilling chili all over himself, trying to figure out what to do, and he's just, he's shot the bed.

Speaker 1 And the Caps, here's... That's an underrated story, though.
Can we just talk about that for a second? The fact that

Speaker 1 the fact that the Capitals didn't re-sign their Stanley Cup winning coach after he won a Stanley Cup is still so fucking crazy to me.

Speaker 1 I know there's money and all that stuff, but how do you win a cup and not bring that guy back? Especially just the way that he looks. He just looks like a hockey guy.
He's got no neck.

Speaker 1 His chin extends directly. He's got like tequillo spikes from the shoulders up going on.
He's just a little sausage. Listen, he's a fun coach.
He's a player's coach. And it's on a cup.

Speaker 1 Once you get to the playoffs, it's all about just like making your team comfortable, right? You just need a coach that people want to play hard for. Todd Reardon is not that guy.

Speaker 1 The power play for the Capitals is as bad as I've ever seen in an NHL game. It seems like they need a good coach.
Really bad. Stanley Cup winning coach.
So I've resigned. Well, I quit on the team.

Speaker 1 Hand up. I quit on the team.
Wow. I realized on Friday that I'd watched every goal that went in for the Islanders.
You're hanging. And I didn't watch any of the goals that the Caps scored.

Speaker 1 So today I listened to it on the radio instead of watching the game.

Speaker 1 And listening to hockey on the radio sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they talk so quickly about where the puck is, who's got it, that I found myself, I accidentally cheered when the Caps got scored on because I was like, oh, wait, I thought that was our goal.

Speaker 1 Damn. So, yeah, we're done.
Over.

Speaker 1 Over. Blackhawks, they're fighting.
They're scratching and clawing. There's also been, it's just been, I mean, the Blackhawks are probably going to lose on Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 We're probably going to have a double Soggy Sorrows on Tuesday night show. Super Sorrows.
But

Speaker 1 they fought. They fought hard, got outshot by a billion.
And Corey Crawford was like, hey, I'm going to throw it back real quick and have a hell of a game.

Speaker 1 Hockey playoffs, though, like I was watching that entire Flames Stars game. There's just nothing like it.
Even without the fans, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 1 And Hank, we should at least, Bruins, Hank, we should at least ask your opinion on Tuka Rask,

Speaker 1 going with the very bizarre comments of like, yeah, we're just trying to have fun out there and then opting out the next day, which I will defend him in a little bit where we do this thing in the media where we're like, we just want guys to give real answers.

Speaker 1 And he gave a very real answer and then he gets.

Speaker 1 killed for it but still it's a weird look the boston media has always like hated tuka rask people have always wanted him out, but, and he said it's for family, so it's one of those things where it's hard to.

Speaker 1 You can't hate on him. Yeah, you can't hate on family.
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes and all that stuff, but it's crazy that he went into the bubble.

Speaker 1 Like, who, who leaves the bubble in the playoffs? It's a bubble. In the playoffs, it just, that quote of just like, I'm just trying to have fun out there.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not really, it doesn't really feel like real hockey just trying to have fun. Reading between the lines, it sounded like

Speaker 1 blowing game seven last year. Like, you'd think he'd want some revenge for that.
You know, like, he was there one game away from the cup. The playoffs are starting.
This is your time.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're not having fun, it's like three weeks. But you saw the reaction from his teammates.
It seemed like there's something going on that's not public.

Speaker 1 They even said, like, nobody questioned this. We're all on his side.
Whatever.

Speaker 1 That's where it's like, it makes it literally makes no sense for someone to go into the bubble and then leave unless there's something serious going on.

Speaker 1 So you have to just assume something serious is going on.

Speaker 1 I have had this thought that this is the easiest

Speaker 1 for if you're a fan of a team that loses in the playoffs, whether it be NBA or the Stanley Cup playoffs, this is the easiest letdown of all time

Speaker 1 because you can play that game in your mind. Like, what's the point of even winning a cup if you can't go to games or go to the bars with your friends or win the cup?

Speaker 1 If you win the cup, like have a parade. Like, you can't even have a parade.
It's an astrophysicist. So it is the easiest letdown.
Everyone should enjoy it if your team loses.

Speaker 1 Just enjoy the fact that this will be the easiest letdown of all time that we'll ever have as fans. Yeah, I was just looking forward to the potential of maybe watching meaningful hockey games

Speaker 1 for myself

Speaker 1 into September, potentially. That would have been cool.
But yeah, I've pretty much given up on the season. Now, that said, you quit on the team.
That said, you took a rest.

Speaker 1 That said, I'm removing myself from the fan bubble, but don't let us win one. Because if we win one, then we got, what is it, we got Kurt, and then we got Pedro, and then anything can happen.

Speaker 1 Game seven. PF Tuca.

Speaker 1 PF Tuca. PF Tuca.
That works.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just just announce that you're opting out right before the game actually just wait until until they're until they get a two goal lead yeah i'm opting out i'm still technically listen i'm just i i'm having fun uh but you know it doesn't feel the same doesn't feel like playoff hockey yeah and you guys don't really follow like the in inside boston media but there is some beautiful like takage going on where it's like you know a lot of the radio guys wanted to out the whole season and then when he opts out they're like well what how can you do that yeah like there's this

Speaker 1 shaughnessy season yeah we do that thing in all of media where it's like we want these guys to give an honest answer, not the canned answer that you hear all the time, you know,

Speaker 1 played hard, gonna try to win a game, played 60 minutes, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 He actually gave a real answer where he's like, it doesn't feel like playoff hockey, and then we shit on it, which, I mean, I guess that's just, we're all hypocrites.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't, I don't think too many people shit on it.

Speaker 1 Like, I saw some people in the media, like, here and there doing it, but from the verbiage that, like, the team was saying about it, I think everybody kind of realized, like, maybe, maybe we don't have all the facts about rascals.

Speaker 1 Well, not the opt-out. The shitting on the opt-out is weird because it's like if there's a family issue, I'm saying shitting on the, like, I'm just trying to have fun out there.
Yeah, playoff options.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 1 That is an honest answer that then gets shit on, and it's like, yeah, you know what? We're all fucking hypocrites and assholes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen, the guy was trying to have fun playing a game, and that's what I don't even think he said anything that was that bad.

Speaker 1 It's just like, you want, as a fan, you want the athletes to be as like bought in and invested as you can. And they're never, they never will.

Speaker 1 And they probably won't be, but at least let us maintain that veneer of just being like, yeah, these guys care more than me. You have to.
Because then I don't feel like a huge loser.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get them every now and then. That's why I always love a guy like Joe Kim Noah.
It's like, hey,

Speaker 1 he cares just as much as me. Yes.

Speaker 1 These guys become your champion. Really, in sports, I just don't want to be reminded of the fact that it makes no sense that I care so much about something that is so inconsequential.

Speaker 1 So let me maintain that. We also have the NBA playoff set.
We had a great play-in game, which I think they're going to do now forever, which would be great.

Speaker 1 The 8-9 play-in game, which happened on Saturday at 2.30. I do not know why it was 2.30 on Saturday.
That was very bizarre. But we have the Blazers as the eighth seed, the final team to make it.

Speaker 1 I am...

Speaker 1 The media has Blazers derangement syndrome. Oh, I love the Blazers.
They have Blazers derangement syndrome. The Lakers are going to fuck the Blazers up.

Speaker 1 Write it down. Quote it.
Five games, maybe. They're going to fuckers have the bubble MVP on their team.
This is coming from Laker Dan, straight to your ears. The Lakers are going to fuck them up.

Speaker 1 Do the Lakers have the bubble MVP on their team? Dude Williams, right? Did one of the Lakers' starting players, mom, just die from Corona and he's playing for her honor? Grandmother.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That changed things a little bit.

Speaker 1 So now is it Lakers in six?

Speaker 1 Lakers in seven.

Speaker 1 It was Blazers in six. Do the Lakers have Slim Mellow on their team? Oh, my God.
Slim Mellow. Flunch Mellow.

Speaker 1 Who excels in bubble environments like the Olympics? Dude, Mellow. Great point, DF.
Yeah, thank you. Mellow is so washed.

Speaker 1 No, he hit that three, Peter. He hit that three.
He hit that three. That hit that three.
He was minus four in a game they won by five. All right.
He played 38 minutes. He hit the three.

Speaker 1 And which is more about Damian Lillard being an unselfish superstar. Damian Lillard's incredible, and C.J.
McCollum is incredible. The Blazers play pickup basketball.
They do not play defense.

Speaker 1 So when they play against the Lakers,

Speaker 1 I think the Lakers just need to get three consecutive stops when the game's over. I don't know.
I don't know. Listen, it could happen in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 Nobody talks about all the punches that Buster Douglas threw that didn't connect. Nobody talks about the kicks that Appalachian State didn't block against Michigan.
This is what we do, though.

Speaker 1 We shouldn't focus on Mellow and the 83% of the threes that he missed. We should focus on the fact that he's rebranded as Slim Mellow Robert Ore.
But how many times is LeBron?

Speaker 1 I I know this is different because it's the bubble and everything's weird, but how many times does LeBron have to do that thing where

Speaker 1 at some point in the year, the league fixes games for him so he wins? At some point in the year,

Speaker 1 the team doesn't look right because he knows. He knows that the playoffs are different.

Speaker 1 He doesn't care if they didn't, you know, they coasted to the one seed. They won that like halfway through the bubble.

Speaker 1 And then when they start playing the Blazers, they're going to kick their ass and everyone's going to be like, oh, yeah, Anthony Davis and LeBron James are really fucking good. They are good.

Speaker 1 But, Big Cat, you're turning your back on the podcast community by going against C.J. McCollum.
Well, I am a good person.

Speaker 1 Do the Lakers have any podcasts? Everyone knows I'm a die-hard Laker fan. Actually, I bet you Dwight Howard probably does a secret podcast about Sneak Makers.
I love C.J. McCollum.

Speaker 1 He's in a fucking assassin. He is so awesome at the end of games.

Speaker 1 They're going to lose in five. Maybe sweat.
Maybe sweat. I'm taking the over on that.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Same. I think

Speaker 1 it goes six. Blazers in six.
Blazers in six. Yeah, Blazers in C.
Same. Great.
I am fully bought into the media derangement syndrome of Blazers. If Blazers beat the Lakers, Hank will get a cat.

Speaker 1 Hashtag Blazers.

Speaker 1 No. Yeah.
No, I just said it. I just bet it.

Speaker 1 I just made that bet. You made that bet for me for you not a green credit under any circumstances.

Speaker 1 Blazers are the most fun team right now to watch. And a lot of that is because they played really hard, knowing that they had to play really hard.
Um, so just let me won by like three every game.

Speaker 1 Let me enjoy like a day and a half of being like, Yeah, I enjoy watching.

Speaker 1 Listen, I enjoy watching the Blazers. I'm just gonna call out what I'm seeing is everyone being like, dude, Blazers, live dog.
No, uh-uh, shut up, not gonna happen. Damien, so team of destiny.

Speaker 1 If we're handing out our bubble awards, oh, the grandmother thing, not mine. TJ Warren.
Are those actual awards? No, no. Is ENBA doing it? Just everyone in the media is doing it? I think so.

Speaker 1 Okay, our bubble award, MVP. You want to give it to Dame?

Speaker 1 Sure. I'm going Louisiana.
T.J. Warren.

Speaker 1 And Dame.

Speaker 1 The NBA officially announced. Oh, it did.
Yeah. Oh, okay.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
So, Dame deserved it, without a doubt. T.J.
Warren finished second.

Speaker 1 I think it was Booker finished second. Devin Booker, also, yeah.
The Suns, they would have. Listen.
It's bullshit that you can go undefeated in the bubble and not get the playoffs. I know.

Speaker 1 They should have gotten statistically.

Speaker 1 Any other NBA before the games actually start? Hank, are you excited? The The Celtics are going to kill the Sixers. Yeah, it's like my favorite part of the year.

Speaker 1 Although it feels like spring because it's like, you know, first round of the playoffs, Celtics work the Sixers. You do have to be a little worried that Ben Simmons is out, though.
No.

Speaker 1 Because they are objectively better when it's just in beat.

Speaker 1 We'll see. Well, no, but Ben Beat's banged up, too, though.
Yeah, he is. And also the

Speaker 1 Sixers are the...

Speaker 1 I feel like the Celtics have only athletic wings and the Sixers have none.

Speaker 1 Well, also, Kenny the Jet was saying that Ben Simmons is going to be able to shoot in the bubble because there are no fans around to boom. True.
But then he hurt his kneecap.

Speaker 1 Then he heard his kneecap. And he's got like foreign bodies floating around in his knee, right? Yeah.
So that doesn't sound great.

Speaker 1 Any other, let's see, I don't see any big upsets happening in the first round. I feel like this is.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately. That's Raptors.

Speaker 1 Keep an eye on it.

Speaker 1 Keep an eye on it. Keep an eye on it.
That's all I'm saying. Okay, I got one eye on it.
Yeah, keep an eye on it.

Speaker 1 What about... I feel like we all have bubble derangements injuries.
I do. Like, anything could happen, and then all the higher seeds are going to win like it always happens to the NBA.

Speaker 1 And then we'll get into the playoffs. I'm convinced that the Bucs are just absolute garbage.
I don't think that's fast. Yeah, because of Hank.
Well, the Bucs haven't been playing well.

Speaker 1 Who are they playing in the first round? The Magic? Giannis should be suspended for the first three games. That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 If you headbutt someone in the Bucks are going to beat the Magic. They're going to be in the whole world if you get suspended for only one game.

Speaker 1 You're Giannis. They're going to beat the Magic by 27 in game one.
And we're all going to be like, oh, yeah. Another one.
You know what? I am desensitized to headbutt recently.

Speaker 1 We will never have as good of a headbutt as Zinedin Zidane put on him in the, was it Maserati or whatever in the World Cup finals? That's facts. So this Gianna's headbutt, that was a little love tap.

Speaker 1 Yes. One and a half games.

Speaker 1 Any other, I'm trying to think if there's any other NBA playoff matchups that I guess I am excited for like the other one that everyone's going to sell them in is they're going to be like Luca against the Clippers.

Speaker 1 That one's going to be another one where Clippers are going to probably win in five. Maybe Kawhi takes a game off because of his knee or whatever.

Speaker 1 Mike Conley's going home. Yep.

Speaker 1 Birth of of his children. Birth of his children.
Children are bigger than sports. Way bigger than sports.

Speaker 1 So Denver, Utah, which, as we've said, should be played at altitude, or at least if it's a Utah home game, they should allow like one or two of those synthetic fans on the screens to be yelling very harmless cuss words.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Chris Paul versus the Rockets. Yes, Chris Paul versus the Rockets,

Speaker 1 Russell Westbrook, who's I don't think playing in game one versus the Thunder. That will be fantastic.
Either way, just day basketball. Shout out the NBA.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if they had a choice because they didn't want to run concurrent games, but I was nervous for a while going into the playoffs that they wouldn't do these afternoon games.

Speaker 1 They're doing them for the first round.

Speaker 1 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 Well, they've got to step it up because hockey in the first round had so many like double, triple overtime games, which sucks, by the way, if you're at work and you're trying to pretend that you're working and not watching hockey, and then you end up staying like three hours late and your boss is like, wow, you're really working hard.

Speaker 1 You're like, no, it's the fifth overtime that's happening right now. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, so the only other news that I had is Big Ten football is definitely going to come back. Yeah, for sure.
So there's a petition. Yeah, there's change.org.
There's a petition.

Speaker 1 Justin Fields started one. It's up to like 200,000 signatures right now.
I would say conservatively I've signed it 75 times.

Speaker 1 Well, they should do where like whichever team has the most players sign it, that's the Big Ten champions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've just been anyone who says anything mean to me on Twitter today, I've just been taking their Twitter handle and just signing the petition for them. Yeah, the Big Ten season.

Speaker 1 Reducing those numbers.

Speaker 1 The season is going to consist of a couple more scheduled releases that get canceled, and then this petition that goes out i you're still very much in the bargaining stage oh yeah no the fact that the fact that this petition has 200 000 signatures and people are starting to be like what you know it's kind of like whenever whenever there's a change.org like change.org let's end racism well this might actually do it has it changed change.org has it bring back football has a change.org petition ever accomplished anything um

Speaker 1 i don't think it has i don't know i like the one that's uh take kylie jenner out of the WAP music video.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Agreed.
How do you

Speaker 1 delete the snacking video?

Speaker 1 What if there was a bubble for fans? Like, this is still bargaining right now.

Speaker 1 What if Wisconsin fans hypothetically could sign up and be like, hey, if you let us go into games, we will bubble ourselves. Like, can you imagine the environment that would be 90,000

Speaker 1 LSU fans just camped out in Baton Rouge? Yes. What if, now, okay, let's talk about solutions instead of excuses like John Taffer.

Speaker 1 What if there was a rule saying that the SEC could have fans at games if

Speaker 1 that exists? If those fans.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of teams are saying that they're not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like they're going to, I feel like the SEC is just going to fucking have a schedule. Like, they're going to play college football like nothing is changed.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'll put it this way. A lot of NFL teams have already said no fans in stadiums.
What if they said you can charge 10 games if we shoot you up with this vaccine? From Russia.

Speaker 1 And then we monitor you. So in reality, it would be like a real-world application of the vaccine test.
Yes. And what up, Billy?

Speaker 1 You're saying that the people that they test the vaccine on are going to be the only people allowed to go to games? Yeah, yeah. And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Even if it's like an SEC school, which probably doesn't, a lot of their fans don't want to get a vaccine, what if you said you could attend games if you got this vaccine?

Speaker 1 I guarantee you, a lot of people would change it. I would remind you.
I'll take it right now. I'll talk about that.
Right this second.

Speaker 1 I'll chance it. You know, it's true.
Absolutely. I take no questions out there.
Sign a waiver. I take the Russian one.

Speaker 1 If you get me some Russian vaccine, you're like, but this will make sure that football happens. Yeah.
In. Sew it.

Speaker 1 Bubbles are the answer to everything, Billy. Yes.
Why don't you realize that? They should just put the USA in a bubble. Yeah, they should put the world in a bubble.
Yeah, okay. Boom.
Done.

Speaker 1 World in a bubble. COVID solved.

Speaker 1 Everyone has to get tested, wear a mask, bubble. Yep.
Done. Boom.
And this concludes our segment. Our heads are in the sand.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I would say there's a 10% chance that I think that this fucking stupid petition online is going to actually change something.

Speaker 1 And when I say 10%, obviously I mean like 60%. So as far as the commissioner, the biggest thing.
It's 100% going to happen. I think he just basically

Speaker 1 wants to say, we don't know. There's a lot of stuff that...
I don't know, and I'm scared to death of getting sued. Dude, his son is playing for Texas A ⁇ M.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen. This fuck.
everyone sign the petition. Do your fucking, do your job.
Sign the petition. Sign it for your dog.
Sign it for your neighbor. Sign the petition.

Speaker 1 I think if we get to a million, they have no choice but to play Big Ten football. It's called change.org.

Speaker 1 We're here making positive changes. Let's fucking do it.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to who's back of the week. I bet Sean McVay would just like cut up all of his shirts to donate them as masks for all the St.
Louis or all the LA Rams. Yes.
No more shirts. Whoops.

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Speaker 1 All right, who's back in the week? Hank!

Speaker 1 I actually forgot we talked how we missed this at the beginning. Alex Smith is back.
Oh, yeah. He is back.
Dude, can we just say

Speaker 1 please stop spraying slippery liquids around Alex Smith's feet?

Speaker 1 They put up a video of Alex Smith and his family celebrating the fact that he was returned to play football again,

Speaker 1 and he doesn't look like he could play football.

Speaker 1 His leg.

Speaker 1 I think I could play football better than he could play football. I don't.

Speaker 1 He couldn't avoid the rush of his five-year-old spraying Dasani on him. And then they put out pictures of his leg, and it's like disturbing.

Speaker 1 His leg is in basically a forever cast right now. He doesn't go anywhere without that AI style compression sleeve that goes from his ankle to his testicles.

Speaker 1 And I guess it's like keep germs out of his leg as much as possible. But

Speaker 1 I want him to play, but I don't, don't, don't want, you know, I want to see him out there. Be happy.
But I don't, Alex, please. What doctor?

Speaker 1 The red-skinned Seeer.

Speaker 1 Or excuse me, the Washington football team doctor. I also just love that everyone just saw that like red meat of auto retweets just tweeting like

Speaker 1 Alex Smith broke his leg two years ago this day. Like, you know,

Speaker 1 you'll see all that. Yeah, thought he was going to get amputated.
Now he's cleared to

Speaker 1 7,000 retweets. Like, I saw that tweet 1,700 times.
Yeah, it's like Ryan Shazir walking out to midfield to flip a coin. They're like, the doctors have cleared him.
Isn't this a great story?

Speaker 1 I don't know, Jim. He also almost broke his ankle in the flip-flop.
Do you see that?

Speaker 1 Like, that would have been... I don't...

Speaker 1 I mean, that objectively would have been hilarious if he had just broke his ankle, like his other ankle,

Speaker 1 celebrating coming back. Yeah.
And his like kids create a slippery driveway and he just shatters his leg. Yeah, just his other leg.
That would have been one of the funniest videos of all time.

Speaker 1 I'm comfortable saying that. Keep all liquids away from Alex Smith's leg at all costs.
Don't even pee on your feet, Alex Smith, in the shower. Oh, man.
Just don't shower. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can. Just cast it.
Just sponge yourself. Well, it's not a cast.
It's like a giant sleeve that he wears, but it also is a constant reminder that, like, hey, that leg's fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yes, very fucked up. He's got, like, the black patch that NBA players wear on their jerseys just in remembrance of his leg.
Yes. R.I.P.
Phibia. What else you got, Phiby?

Speaker 1 My other who's back was cancel culture.

Speaker 1 These people will stop at nothing until everyone in the world is canceled, and last week they got my boy Genghis Khan. Oh!

Speaker 1 Crazy. Genghis.
Yeah. Just can't.
The guy,

Speaker 1 let the guy die in peace.

Speaker 1 He only killed like

Speaker 1 a third of the population. 11%, big cat.
Don't exaggerate.

Speaker 1 I'm part of the problem.

Speaker 1 But we did get people saying, like, hey, Genghis Khan had some good ideas. Without him, we would not be in the place that we are.
What were we saying, Billy? You were defending.

Speaker 1 Something about there saying that he set up a system of checks and balances in government.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I'll murder you if you say anything bad about it. Well, I'll either fuck you or murder you.
You choose.

Speaker 1 Like, there's something like 7% of the population has his Y chromosome, which is actually pretty insane.

Speaker 1 Wasn't there the argument that he actually helped in global warming? Because he killed so many people? Yes.

Speaker 1 Live long enough to become, you know, it's like what's the

Speaker 1 little girl, Greta? Now it's like Greta and Genghis Khan. It's basically the same.
If you're dead long enough, you'll also become a villain again. Yes.

Speaker 1 So live long enough, die young enough to be a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain, but then you die and then you get good again and then you get bad again

Speaker 1 once Twitter gets invented. Dude, free Genghis Kan.
Free Genghis. Canceled.
canceled canceled.

Speaker 1 Not all cons. They spread horses.
What? Horses got spread because of the Mongols. Okay.
No one rode horses.

Speaker 1 They spread them. Yeah, like.
The use of them? Yeah, the police.

Speaker 1 And they probably left some horses when they left, so horses. Okay.
So Secretary would not exist without Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Barbaro, the Alex Smith of horses, would not have existed without Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan.
All right, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Kyle Sloeder.
Oh, yes. That's right.

Speaker 1 My little hobby horse that

Speaker 1 I fucking love Kyle Sloeder. He is the epitome.
Every team has this quarterback, the quarterback that is the best preseason quarterback of all time.

Speaker 1 And you always think in the back of your head, like, this guy could be a superstar if only everybody else saw him, what I'm seeing in him.

Speaker 1 I think he's thrown 11 touchdowns, one interception, like 1,100 passing yards. He has the highest preseason completion percentage of any quarterback ever, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 And I think he's going to your Bears. But there's no preseason.
But there's no preseason this year. So we're finally going to get to see what Sloeder will be like in a non-preseason environment.

Speaker 1 Are we in the trust tree right now? Sure.

Speaker 1 I saw a slow-mo video.

Speaker 1 Mitch Trubisky looks awesome. There you go.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 He was a fucking perfect spiral. Oh, it was a perfect spiral.

Speaker 1 I feel good. We also got our first taste of Joe Burrow in a Bengals uniform throwing like a six-yard slant to A.J.
Green. Love it.
Looked awesome. Yes.
The ball was a spiral. Pats were going on.

Speaker 1 It was slow-mo. That's all it takes to make your quarterback look awesome.
When I saw this, I would have fucked that spiral. I was like, oh my God.
He hit him in stride.

Speaker 1 There was no defense being played, but that doesn't matter. In stride, perfect spiral.

Speaker 1 Just going to say it. There you go.

Speaker 1 So Mitchell's back. Hey, 2020, weird shit's happened.
Let's do it. Maybe because of the pressure that Sloeder is putting on him from behind, both him and Nick Foles.

Speaker 1 Imagine if Mitch Risky won the MVP.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Why was that laugh? Why was that a laugh?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, something's completely self-canned

Speaker 1 by Mitch. I was thinking about Mitch totally.
Any other who's back?

Speaker 1 Yeah, bar fights are back. There was a bar fight on my street this weekend, which is fucking sweet because it's like, yes, we haven't had any bar fights since lockdown started.

Speaker 1 That's a major watershed moment. Outside?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like 12 people. I got a notification on my little neighborhood app saying

Speaker 1 big time fighting. Oh, are you indoors of the flights on people? Yeah, so no, you fucking Karen.

Speaker 1 Then I went outside and I walked Leroy around the corner and there was like shattered glass everywhere and there were police officers. It was like, yes, this is fucking sweet.
Nature's healing. Wow.

Speaker 1 Did you give a statement? I did not give a statement. You probably offered.
You're like, oh, oh, please. I hung around.
Let me say something.

Speaker 1 I hung around for a second to see if there was going to be news cameras showing up. Then I could be like, no, I heard this fight.
I came right downstairs and it was like whoa what's going on

Speaker 1 all right see you guys later all right my who's back is uh mark jackson mark jackson is back so the bulls fired jim boyland on friday which i got to give a shout out to jim boyland because as terrible of a coach that he is and he is truly truly terrible like never has anyone been less qualified for a job than Jim Boylan.

Speaker 1 I still will miss him because Billy's on this podcast. Yeah, that's true.
No, Billy is more qualified to be on this podcast than Jim Boylan was to coach an NBA team. That's a bold statement.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Jim Boylan, I'm going to miss him still because of his quotes about soul, his quotes about growth plates, his random timeouts, the time that he burned all his timeouts with like six minutes left in the fourth quarter,

Speaker 1 the time he did hockey shifts, the time that he had the Bulls do a practice after back-to-back, and then the team had a mutiny, and then he had a leadership committee.

Speaker 1 What about the time card card punch-ins? The time card punch-ins. There's so many moments.
I do want to just say one quote that sums up the essence of Jim Boylan. I forgot about this.

Speaker 1 I saw it retweet on my timeline. In 2019, he must have, I don't know where he was or what was going on.
Well, I guess I know what was going on, earthquake.

Speaker 1 Jim Boylan, talking about earthquakes, said, I just think it's awesome. the power of nature to think that something can move that building that much.
It's awe-inspiring to me.

Speaker 1 So that just tells you what he is. Jim Boylan would, there would be an earthquake, and he would just stand underneath the building being like, watch this building topple.
That's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 I like that. And then die.
I like that. He's fascinated by nature.
It's like that insane Clown Posse song about magnets. Yeah.
Like, holy fuck. Jim Boyland.

Speaker 1 People don't take time to think about nature's small miracles, but Jim Boylan does. Jim Boylan.
So Jim Boylan is fired.

Speaker 1 I don't know who the Bulls are going to hire, but also the Pelicans fired Alvin Gentry. So Mark Jackson is now going to be talked about.

Speaker 1 And I think I I heard it correctly that he said Zion was his rookie of the year over the weekend, which is awesome because it's just such a shill move by a guy who's been calling Zion fat all year to then have the Pelicans fire Alva Gentry and him being like, this Zion kid, he's good.

Speaker 1 Listen, Mark Jackson knows how to get a job.

Speaker 1 Want to end keep a job usually. That's one thing that he's very, very good at.

Speaker 1 I think Mark Jackson realizes that

Speaker 1 the longer he stays announcing,

Speaker 1 someone's going to be like, hey, we should probably be done with Mark Jackson as the announcer. So he knows that it's time to get a job as a coach.

Speaker 1 I hope to God it's not with the Bulls, but I do hope to God it is with the Pelicans because I'd love to just watch that. Him ruin Zion and everyone be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 And then Zion will win an NBA title the minute Mark Jackson got fired. Right.

Speaker 1 This is how dog brains in America work. We see somebody on TV long enough talking about a sport and we think that they are capable now of coaching that.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't think anyone thinks Mark Jackson is capable. Oh,

Speaker 1 he's started to convince people. No, no, no.
He's going to get a job. No.
So some people are going to be able to do that. But

Speaker 1 that doesn't mean anyone thinks he's capable. That just means that idiots in a front office are just going with a name.
Right. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but that...

Speaker 1 They know he's not capable of doing that. But that's what we think.
It's like we see somebody on TV enough and they become an expert. Yeah.
And so, I mean, you forget.

Speaker 1 Mark Jackson assembled that Golden State Warriors team. Yes.
Kevin Durant would not have a ring if it weren't for Mark Jackson. He really did.

Speaker 1 He put in the culture that ended up winning

Speaker 1 those titles. Billy, who's back? La Crosse.

Speaker 1 Okay. Chris Hogan.
PLL just signed up.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, but Chris Hogan just signed with the Jets his fourth AFC East team, meaning that we're going to hear La Crosse be brought up in every Jets broadcast. That's true.
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 Got to collect all that. I like that.
I like that he's played for every single team in that division now. He knows all the secrets.
Billy, do you want to talk about going to jail this weekend?

Speaker 1 I did not go to jail this weekend. Billy got arrested on Thursday night.
Yep. I did not get arrested.

Speaker 1 It was weird because you were up drunk tweeting until like 11:30 midnight, and then you didn't tweet for 16 hours.

Speaker 1 And your first tweet back was, if you mix pre-workout and tequila, 100% chance you go to jail. 100% chance.
I did not go to jail. So you didn't mix pre-workout and tequila?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't because you'd go to jail. Oh, okay.
So that was the thought. You just took a little high.

Speaker 1 You went zero dark 30 on Friday? Yeah. Just out of of Coolidge.
On Tuesday. Can you guys give me a break? I'm mourning the loss of my frog.
Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1 That was a very graphic thing to put on Twitter, just randomly raw dogging a dead frog in our face. Well, R.I.P.
But why? R.I.P. Bertha.
Maybe like a trigger warm. His name was Bertha.

Speaker 1 Her name was Bertha. Yeah.
Shake Bertha. She was a girl? Yes, I'm sure it was.
How'd you find out? Because the females

Speaker 1 of frogs are larger than the males. Anyway.
Did you touch Bertha's pussy? No, I did not.

Speaker 1 Did Did you look at it?

Speaker 1 They don't have that. Be honest with me.
Look at the eyes. That's really best.

Speaker 1 This is really birth pussy.

Speaker 1 This has not happened. You know what? I got arrested.
I got arrested.

Speaker 1 I got arrested. That's what you leave.
I didn't get arrested than fingering his frog picture. Yeah, I got arrested.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 don't put dead frogs on the Twitter timeline.

Speaker 1 It was R.I.P. There's dead fish.
It's worse than when he puts his dog's boner pictures up there. No, my dog.

Speaker 1 They're funny. My dog always has a boner.
It's all there is. Yeah, because you keep fingering frogs or something.
No, I don't. It's a fucked up, bro.

Speaker 1 Damn it. Why wouldn't he be horny? How old was your frog? It's a sucking fuck lair in Billy's little basement.
I'm not 100% sure, but I had it for five years. Okay.
Five years?

Speaker 1 That feels like a long time to own that skip and Stephen A lasted. That's true.
We don't deserve a lot of stuff. A lot of frog sex.
Yeah. Frog spray.
Jesus Christ. Come on.
What? Anyway.

Speaker 1 No, the frog sex stuff is a little far. A little far.
Like, he just died. Like, she just died.
Do you you think she's at peace? Yes. She finally frog heaven.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you feel a little bit responsible for not feeding her on Thursday night through Friday afternoon when you were in prison?

Speaker 1 I was not in jail.

Speaker 1 Wait, Billy. It would be hilarious.

Speaker 1 Do you have a frog contingency plan on if you do get arrested? Yeah. Who takes care of your animals? The frogs can go without food for like a couple days.
Actually, clearly.

Speaker 1 That's one of the reasons why I don't go to prison. Okay.
Is that I want to get home to my animals. That's actually

Speaker 1 the only reason.

Speaker 1 the only reason I have not gone to prison is the animals. So you can thank them.
Man. All right.
RIP, Bertha. I do feel bad.
Sorry for your loss, Billy. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Everyone, please say sorry for Billy's loss on Twitter tomorrow. Thank you.
And don't say that he fingered his frog. Oh, come on.
All right, let's get to our

Speaker 1 frog dialogue. I don't know.
I don't know. Are you sure? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Bestiality? No. Yeah.
It's got the word beast in it, though. Beast.
Yeah. Beast.

Speaker 1 If you're going to If you're going to say Billy practices bestiality, please don't.

Speaker 1 Capitalize the beast. Yeah, if it was called berserkerality, Billy would be using that thing as a fleshlight.
Just capitalize the beast. That's all we want.
All right, let's get to our interviews.

Speaker 1 We got Joe Montana and then Akon right after.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on very, very special guest. He is an NFL Hall of Famer, four-time Super Bowl winner, undefeated in the Super Bowl.
It is Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 He's here with Guinness because Guinness is proud to announce their new partnership and official beer of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish alumni and fans.

Speaker 1 Joe obviously is a very famous alum from Notre Dame. So thank you for joining us, Joe.
I love Guinness, by the way. So I think you might send us some free ones, and I'm ready for that.

Speaker 7 You know what? I think you're too late. They're already on the way, I I believe.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true. So you'll be able to enjoy some more.

Speaker 1 A common misconception about Guinness is that it's a fall and wintertime drink. It's a year-round drink.
I like Guinness no matter the weather.

Speaker 7 Yes. Well, I fell in love with it when we were over in, we were over actually in Dublin.

Speaker 7 Our trainer, our girls were jumping and talked us into going over there and looking at horses. And the one trainer said, hey,

Speaker 7 when they're done trying horses, let's go get a pint of Guinness. And I said, okay, sounds good to me.
And then next thing you know, every day after that, I'm going, hey, Charlie, isn't that time?

Speaker 7 I think it was time for Guinness.

Speaker 1 We might be a little behind here.

Speaker 1 No, it hits different over there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I fell in love with it over there. And I've been a fan ever since.
And it's great being a part of this partnership with Notre Dame. And I think it's

Speaker 7 two great traditions getting together to do some great things.

Speaker 1 So let's talk quickly about Notre Dame. We're going to talk about everything else.
But are you, how optimistic, pessimistic do you feel that Notre Dame is going to be playing football this year?

Speaker 7 Well, you know, I was just talking to one of the guys from the Chicago Tribune and I said, you're probably closer to that. What's happening? What do you hear?

Speaker 7 And he said that I guess the doctor from Duke came out and said that, hey, they can go give it a try. And I go, even if they do,

Speaker 7 what is college football going to be like without some of these conferences not playing? I mean, what are you going to do? Watch the same conference every, you know,

Speaker 7 I don't know how they run college foot NCA football without having them all run it. I don't know why the NCA didn't make a decision

Speaker 7 as an umbrella as opposed to letting everybody make their own decision. Cause I, what's college football? I mean,

Speaker 7 I'm not, you know, as Notre Dame, you hate Michigan.

Speaker 7 But what do you do without the Big Ten or the Pac-12? I mean, Notre Dame SC, geez.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be different. Hopefully they can, the ACC can figure out a way to make it happen in the fall.

Speaker 1 But from like a student athlete perspective, I feel like it's going to be one of those things where you get in and they're going to wait until the last minute to make a decision because they're kind of running out the clock.

Speaker 1 You know, they don't know what the science is going to look like two weeks from now, three weeks from now.

Speaker 1 I have to imagine that that's going to be in the back of all these kids' heads as they're preparing.

Speaker 1 Like they're learning a new playbook, they're learning these systems, but they're also still thinking like this could all just be a big waste of time.

Speaker 7 Well, I think the one thing that you want to do if you're a player, if you're going to have a season, you want to make sure that you're still prepared.

Speaker 7 And I think the best way to do that is, you know, staying involved with the team if the teams are allowed to meet together or even on your own. So,

Speaker 7 and a lot of those guys have aspirations to make it to the NFL, right?

Speaker 7 And so if the season doesn't happen, you still have to stay in shape because the NFL will probably figure out some way to, you know, have a few more combines. to try to be able to look at guys.

Speaker 7 And, you know, you feel bad for some of those seniors because if you look at it, if you take a look at joe burrows right if joe burrows doesn't have a senior year he's not the first big at a draft so you never know who's going to be that surprise bust out guys that you know just increase their marketability to the nfl and um you know

Speaker 7 who wants to miss their last their last season and to have it to go this way yeah you know a lot of seniors are playing their last time of football and uh

Speaker 7 it's sad to see on you know having been a part of that all my life it's just sad to see that they won't have that opportunity.

Speaker 1 Did you curse the green jerseys at Notre Dame?

Speaker 7 You know, I grew up with Notre Dame being blue and gold, and there was so much excitement around the green. I don't remember my initial reaction when we were told.

Speaker 7 I'm pretty sure Divine pulled the captains in and told us what was going to happen.

Speaker 7 But that was after we went to the pep rally the night before, and he kept talking about wearing green, wearing green. and i'm like

Speaker 7 man we're wearing blue man why won't we wear blue and then it kind of filled us in and then uh

Speaker 7 you know there was a lot of excitement in the locker room so you kind of joined in and you know you know what it is they say whatever it takes right yes we went on have a pretty good year so they stuck around for a while but but they i feel like notre dame wearing the green jersey

Speaker 1 the last like 20 years, they haven't won a big game. The green jerseys have flipped.
They went from a mighty duck

Speaker 1 where, you know,

Speaker 1 you guys warm up in one jersey, go in the locker room, put on the green jerseys, everyone's pumped, beat USC, to now, whenever Notre Dame wears the green jersey, I'm sitting there like, they got no shot.

Speaker 7 I hadn't noticed that, but you're probably right. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I'll have to mention that to them.

Speaker 7 Maybe they don't know what's happening.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I hadn't noticed that, but yeah, I'd get rid of them then.

Speaker 1 So I was just...

Speaker 7 I think college uniforms are fun, though. You need to have a little more fun with theirs a little bit.

Speaker 1 Do you like

Speaker 1 the metallic helmet? Or are you more of a fan of like the matte gold?

Speaker 7 You know what? Seeing the metallic one up in close in person is they're spectacular looking. And I like the shininess.
Yeah, I don't mind the upgrade of the gold.

Speaker 7 The matte's still nice, but... you know, why not have a bunch of options?

Speaker 7 Everybody else does. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was looking back at your history here. You were a teammate of Rudy's at Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 Rudy? I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 Rudy. Rudy Rudiger.
Well, my question was going to be, how much do the guys that actually played on that team resent Rudy for totally taking the storyline of how good that team was?

Speaker 1 And now everyone can only talk about Rudy from now on.

Speaker 7 Well, I won't lie. He got a ration of crap every time we saw him, and he quit showing up on a couple of places.

Speaker 7 It's pretty brutal. Well, you know, the locker room's pretty brutal anyway.
But, you know, I mean, the Rudy's story made a great,

Speaker 7 we made a great movie, and a lot of it was embellished.

Speaker 7 And, you know, we, when I run into Rudy on the road here and there, we laugh about it because, you know, he knows that, you know, I tell the truth.

Speaker 7 And there were a lot of things that happened. Yeah, he got in, he got a sack.
Was it crowd chanting? No.

Speaker 7 Well, did I throw in my jersey? No.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 did he get carried off the field? He got carried off by three of the biggest pranksters on the team

Speaker 7 who said, oh, wish had we known no one had gotten carried off, we'd have never done it. But they were always, you know, Rudy worked hard.
I won't lie. He was a walk-on.

Speaker 7 He came in, got his butt kicked every day.

Speaker 7 And it was great to see that he got in and got us back and a lifetime memory for him. And

Speaker 7 it became a movie. But, you know, it's like a lot of movies, they all get their movies.
Sure.

Speaker 7 Every time somebody says, tell me about Rudy, I go, nah,

Speaker 7 you really want to know about Rudy? Oh, don't tell me it's not true. Don't tell me.
I go, made a good movie. But, you know, there are a lot of truths, but there's a lot of things that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 When you sat down with Bill Walsh for the first time, did you know right away that like this guy just sees the game differently and what he's got going on is a different level of any kind of football I've played?

Speaker 7 Yeah, by far. I mean, right away from day one in the meetings.
I mean, you're speaking to him and that you could tell he was different.

Speaker 7 But when you got him in front of the chalkboard or the whiteboard and, you know, and he started drawing up plays and talking about progressions and blitzes and reads, and

Speaker 7 it was different than anything I'd had to that point.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I knew

Speaker 7 I was in someplace special at that time.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 then I was just trying to stay there as long as I could.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you ever look back? You know, judging by era is interesting in the NFL because the games evolved so much.

Speaker 1 Do you ever do like a projection in your head of what your touchdowns and yards would look like in 2020 if you were prime Joe Montana and

Speaker 1 all the rules were slanted towards the offense?

Speaker 7 No, because I don't want to get mad.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's smart.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I just, you know,

Speaker 7 we talk about how, you know, the rule change makes it easier.

Speaker 7 And I always say, yeah, it does make it easier when when you can stand there and know that you're not going to take it smacked because that used to be what separated everybody back then is who can stay in that pocket, stand there knowing there's a guy running right down the middle of you, and as soon as you release this ball, you're going to get planted in the back.

Speaker 7 Can you throw it accurately?

Speaker 7 And that was the separator for most teams, for most quarterbacks, and you know, they don't have to deal with that today. And

Speaker 7 does it make it easier? Yeah, somewhat games still difficult, but for someone at that level, it makes it a little bit easier.

Speaker 1 It is crazy, though, to see like in 1980. Let's see.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 So you were throwing like 500, 400 passes a season, 400 passes a season, which really only comes out to like, I don't know, it's like 24, 25 pass attempts.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't see that really in the NFL today.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you had a season where you led the league in touchdowns with 31 touchdowns.

Speaker 7 that's that's probably like the seventh or eighth guy now in 2020 because of the stats being so inflated yeah yeah i mean as a quarterback you'd love to be playing now you know the the a lot the rules kind of want you to put the ball in the air and

Speaker 7 you know with the group that we had when i left the 49ers with jerry and john taylor and brent jones and uh in that group you know it's hard to say what could happen you know we probably john taylor would have probably caught a lot more balls because we'd be throwing a lot more.

Speaker 7 And, you know, I always feel bad for John because here you are playing across from a guy like Jerry Rice and

Speaker 7 you're running like double comebacks and you're going,

Speaker 7 John Taylor, John Taylor. Ah, shit, Jerry Rice.
You look over there, and John Taylor's wide open. And you talk, and John never said a word.
I mean, he never complained, but I mean, he's

Speaker 7 he's a freak. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 7 he went twice. I mean, he's one of the only two guys that ever go 95 yards twice in one game for touchdowns.
And he just had a unique ability to make people miss.

Speaker 7 And within two steps, he's full speed. And

Speaker 7 I don't know. You know, I feel bad that we didn't target him a little bit more.

Speaker 7 Glad to see he caught a touchdown in the Super Bowl to win.

Speaker 7 Feel good. And then Jerry wins the MVP.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it would be fun to have that group today.

Speaker 7 Bill felt that if we threw the ball into the 30s, we were going to lose.

Speaker 7 That was philosophy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Interesting. It's like completely reversed now.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 Bill actually said this about you. He said, there was something hypnotic about him.
That look when he was dropping back. He was poetic in his movements, almost sensuous.

Speaker 1 Everything so fluid, so much under control.

Speaker 1 Did you turn Bill Walsh on when you were playing quarterback? Would you like to look at him and catch him like biting his lip and just watching film with you?

Speaker 7 No, you know, the one thing he demanded was footwork was like a big thing for him.

Speaker 7 And that, how you drop back, how you hit that last step, whether it's stepping up into the pocket or hitting and that back foot and letting it go.

Speaker 7 He wanted it a certain way. And, you know, I think I fit into what, you know, he envisioned as

Speaker 7 doing the things the right way. And we worked on those fundamentals every day.
I mean, I thought I was done with fundamentals long before that, but God, I was stressed every day by him.

Speaker 7 Footwork, footwork, footwork. If I hear bend your knees one more time,

Speaker 7 I have nightmares over it.

Speaker 7 You know, you make a bad throw and the first thing they'd say, you straighten your knees.

Speaker 7 You know, he was always the little things that made a difference in where that, you know, how accurate you could be with the ball. And he felt it was all driven from your waist down.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite John Candy movie?

Speaker 7 Uncle Buck.

Speaker 1 That's the right answer. Correct answer.
I'm sure you've been asked this a million times

Speaker 1 about the famous John Candy moment in right before you lead the team on a 92-yard drive in the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter with three minutes left.

Speaker 1 You say to the huddle, hey, look, there's John Candy over there. And everyone looks and sees John Candy eating popcorn in the front row.

Speaker 1 So my question is going to be a little maybe different, but were you always Joe cool? Were you always unflappable like that? Was the game kind of always slow for you?

Speaker 1 Or was that something you learned through the years and were able to gain as a skill?

Speaker 7 I think the one thing Bill taught me was like when you get into Sunday, when you're going in Sunday,

Speaker 7 I think it's like taking a test, you know, in school. When you walk in to take a test in school,

Speaker 7 you're nervous if you haven't done your homework and prepared for that test, right?

Speaker 7 And, but if you go in there prepared,

Speaker 7 there's, yeah, you might still be nervous about the test a little bit, but it's not the same. It's not that, oh my God, what am I going to get? What am I going to do?

Speaker 7 It's more about, am I going to get an A or a B?

Speaker 7 And that's kind of his preparation was for perfection. He wanted, he didn't want any mistakes, and especially from the quarterback side of it.

Speaker 7 And he wanted you every day to come to practice like it was a game

Speaker 7 and try to be perfect, try to complete 100% of your passes. He wanted the ball 12 inches in front of the numbers.
He wanted a guy running a hook. He goes, you can see where the defender is.

Speaker 7 Throw the ball to the opposite number, tell that, what's the signal to that guy, the receiver, to turn that direction so he doesn't turn and get hit in the face, going the other way.

Speaker 7 And so he demanded accuracy and perfection in that position. And if you go back and look, whether it was me, Steve Young, Steve DuBerg, Steve Bono,

Speaker 7 you don't see a lot of our guys diving and jumping for balls very often, you know, on a rare occasion. But that's because he demanded that kind of, you know, perfection of the quarterback.

Speaker 7 He goes, I I want you basically to handle all of those guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, interesting. That was his approach.
It's like the details. If you can take care of all the details and be confident in your preparation, then

Speaker 1 you're not going to have as much stuff to worry about on Sunday. And you go out there and you have fun.
And you can go see John Candy in the front row.

Speaker 1 Now, was that move really just to calm down your huddle? No. Were you actually starstruck by John Candy?

Speaker 7 No, I hadn't met with John a couple of times. They tried to get me to go to Canada a number of years before that.
But the thing was really for Harris Barton. Harris Barton was a people person.

Speaker 7 And so every

Speaker 7 night during the Super Bowl, we were free for dinner before and during the week. And Harris was like a little kid.
He'd come back and try and tell you what celebrities he saw. And he was so excited.

Speaker 7 And so TV timeouts are like eight minutes or I don't know how long. They're really long in the Super Bowl.
And so I'd been gone to the sideline once, maybe even twice, and just standing there.

Speaker 7 And all of a sudden, between Harris's shoulders and the tight end john candy was framed and i didn't remember harris saying anything about john candy and we were still waiting for the signal to start

Speaker 7 so i went over to harris and said hey h man look this is john candy

Speaker 7 he looked over the sideline and he's he started mumbling a bunch of stuff and super bowl i couldn't understand half of it but we're trying to win super bowl and john you're looking at john candy

Speaker 7 i thought he would appreciate it yeah but i think he appreciates it today more than he did back then. But no, I was just trying, I was just being myself.

Speaker 7 And, you know, we're getting ready to run a two-minute offense that I know, you know, we've done a million times, and we've done it against probably the toughest time every Thursday of every week when we run it against our own defense.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Our

Speaker 7 first defense. So

Speaker 7 I wasn't concerned about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Interesting. We only really needed a field goal anyway to just tie.

Speaker 1 That's true. We got the touchdown.
So Big Cat mentioned your nickname, Joe Cool. I don't think it's fair that your name is Joe Montana.
Your nickname is Joe Cool.

Speaker 1 And you also have another nickname, the comeback kid. That's like you have three

Speaker 1 very cool names. And it's just like, hey, man, save some for the rest of us.

Speaker 7 It was funny when they always were trying to give me nicknames. And the one, somebody said I already had a nickname.
in Joe Montana. What I needed was a real name.

Speaker 7 And they sent me a plaque, a name plaque from my locker said David W. Gibson on it.

Speaker 1 Just like a normal Joe name. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's just a normal name, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I mean, Joe Montana is, you have definitely had that moment where you're like, I obviously am a tremendous talent, had four Super Bowls, Hall of Famer, but that extra like 1%

Speaker 1 of allure is because of the name Joe Montana.

Speaker 7 Well, thank you.

Speaker 7 My parents would be proud then.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Can you imagine being a GM and you have an option of who to draft and Joe Montana is one of the options?

Speaker 1 No, I think I'm going to pass. Like, if you're Joe Smith, I don't know if Guinness is doing a deal with you right now.
It's true. To be honest, Four Super Bowl is cool, but you're not Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 So it's interesting. There's the John Candy story, but I think the more popular celebrity sighting that you had in one of your big games is...

Speaker 1 At the catch. Do you know who was there at the catch?

Speaker 7 I don't recall.

Speaker 1 Chris Berman. You don't remember seeing Chris Berman in the corner of the end zone?

Speaker 7 Boomer.

Speaker 1 Chris Berman. Look at all that hair he had.
Tom Rady also. Tom Rady was there, but that's an afterthought.
Boomer was there.

Speaker 1 How much more shine do you think that moment has gotten because Chris Berman brings it up like four times a year and plays the replay of him standing right there when he does?

Speaker 7 Well, he's a huge, huge 49er fan and a big and a great friend of Mr. DeVarlow.

Speaker 7 So I'm sure

Speaker 7 he loves putting it up there. And just the energy he brings, I love, you know, still to this day.

Speaker 7 He's been around a long time and it's been a good friend also at the same time.

Speaker 7 He's fun to listen to.

Speaker 7 And especially when the baseball went hitting the home run.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. That throw, were you meaning like you kind of just threw it up there, right?

Speaker 1 Like that Dwight Clark made the play. You just were like, I hope this works.

Speaker 7 Well, Dwight was supposed to set a pick for Freddie Solomon, and Freddie actually fell down. And until that play, we had never thrown it to Dwight.

Speaker 7 And his job really at that point is he realized what happened, and he has to get to the back of the end zone and then slide back towards

Speaker 7 the pylon in the back. And I'm supposed to throw it above his head.
And if he misses it, it goes out of bounds. And when I let it go, I got knocked down.

Speaker 7 But as I let it go, I could, the first part of it felt like it was going to be a little above his head, maybe, you know, maybe a little jump.

Speaker 7 And I didn't imagine it was that high and when i hit the ground and i heard the crowd roar i figured ah touchdown that kind of was what i thought and um until i got to the sideline and our equipment manager said to me boy your buddy saved your ass that time i go talk about that

Speaker 7 he goes he jumped out of the stadium yeah catch that i go chico he's white he can't jump

Speaker 1 it is the catch not the throw i mean it wasn't for the unbelievable catch

Speaker 7 to change it to the throw because without the throw, you wouldn't have made a catch, but he wasn't going for it.

Speaker 1 That's got to be such a cool moment to get like smashed by a linebacker or a lineman and not see the end of the play, but just hear the crowd roar and be like, yup, we did it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's, you know, unfortunately, there are a number of times where as you let the ball go, you get not, you don't see a lot of it. And, you know, you make the mistake on occasion to try to.

Speaker 7 to watch it and two things usually happen well one it tip typically happens somehow you get hurt

Speaker 7 I got tired of getting whiplashed in my head because I'm trying to watch, and as you're watching, the last thing you hit is your head on the turf. Or

Speaker 7 first game in Tampa, uh, when I was with the Chiefs, I threw a post pattern to JJ Burden, and I'm trying to watch it.

Speaker 7 And I got hit, and I put my hands back, and I ended up like chipping a bone in my wrist.

Speaker 7 And then he dropped it. So I was going, dang, I don't mind getting hit, but catch it, please.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 7 no, it's been, but it is. It's

Speaker 7 kind of crazy. The game's fun, and hopefully, they something happens with it, and we can watch it, sit back, enjoy a nice pint of Guinness at the time, and hopefully, football will be back.

Speaker 7 But, you know, I just, you know, like we all say, Miss Partnership between Notre Dame and Guinness is something special, a lot of tradition behind it, heading in the same direction, looking for a lot of the same goals and movement.

Speaker 7 not only in sports, but around the country and trying to make us trying to have make the place a better place for all of us.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, you know what I really miss right now? I miss I miss going into a bar, into a pub, and ordering a Guinness and drinking it inside. It feels like it's been years since I've done that.

Speaker 1 And I need that, I need that back. It's not fall until that happens.

Speaker 7 No, it was nice when I was in Kansas City, Art Center. Oh, Tim Grunhart, another Notre Damer,

Speaker 7 he had an Irish pub. So we would always end up down there.
It's a

Speaker 1 Guinness back there.

Speaker 1 So when you went to Kansas City, it kind of correlates a little bit to what Tom Brady is going through right now. He had a lot of success with his first team.
He's synonymous with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people would say you're synonymous with the 49ers. When you get to Kansas City,

Speaker 1 do you find yourself in a position where you have to kind of reestablish yourself as the man?

Speaker 1 Or was there any sort of like kind of breaking in period where you, you know, you were working to win over those new teammates?

Speaker 7 I think one of the things that happens is

Speaker 7 when you go to a new team like that, the first thing they want to see, first of all, your personality when you get in the locker room. And

Speaker 7 the other for acceptance is when you get on the field, they want to see what makes you different.

Speaker 7 And,

Speaker 7 you know, there's a, we're just, I was just looking at some stuff because we were filming some things here.

Speaker 7 And they had Carl Peterson talking about our first seven on seven. And he said, I don't think the ball hit the ground.
And I'm sitting there at 707.

Speaker 7 Hopefully it never hits the ground on 7-0-7. But,

Speaker 7 you know, it's something that I guess it sounded like they hadn't seen before in a long time. And, you know,

Speaker 7 you slowly work your way into the acceptance and, you know, the first training camp and, you know, playing golf in the afternoon or at lunchtime

Speaker 7 with the guys.

Speaker 7 and hurry up and run over there and play like four or five holes before we had to go back to practice. But, you know, it just takes doing the things and you know

Speaker 7 just uh for acceptance into that and but someone like tom you know he won't have a he won't have a problem his personality lends itself to yeah easy acceptance and obviously what he's been able to accomplish and wow they got a good team down there with the defense and the numbers they put up offensively and then you had you had him and that crazy man Gronk into the mix.

Speaker 7 Who knows what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I had one last question, Joe.

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Speaker 1 Four Super Bowls,

Speaker 1 big-time college football play games, you know,

Speaker 1 a storied Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 7 Is there one game or one moment that you find yourself daydreaming about or dreaming about that you go back into and it just kind of it's all it's that one memory that's seared into your brain that you always go back to i think i was playing uh i want to say it was the 80 88 season i can never remember the year too many hits in the head i think but we were playing philadelphia in philadelphia when buddy ryan was there and you know we we were going into the game and everybody was saying how you know we're we're not big enough and we're a finesse team we can't handle the the pressure and the power and the physical part of the game that they bring that the Eagles brought to us at that time.

Speaker 7 And, you know, the first play, I think the first series, we get a blitz and I hit Jerry for about 60, maybe 70 yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 7 And I'm sitting there thinking, oh, this is, this is going to be easier than I thought. And then from that point on, I never picked myself up off the ground more times through a game in my life.
And,

Speaker 7 you know, we got behind and we're fortunate we scored a bunch of touchdowns in the fourth quarter and to come back to beat him back there and that's one that always sticks in in within mainly because we we were ahead and all we we were third and five or third and three and we sent the back out a little reroute and tried to get the first down and the game would have been over and instead of the back sitting there wide open and

Speaker 7 instead of throwing the ball back you see our head coach's head go

Speaker 7 I let it go. I let it fly down the field to Jerry

Speaker 7 for a touchdown. And I was, we got off the sideline.
He said, well, you're lucky you you completed that pass

Speaker 1 that's interesting though that it's a game that's not you know one of the Super Bowl wins or one of the big Notre Dame wins that's that's interesting

Speaker 1 you know that there are some Philly fans out there that still remember that to this day yeah and they hate Joe Montana and they will never allow your name to be uttered in their house because of that regular season game

Speaker 7 oh yeah well that was that's probably the one that's awesome

Speaker 1 that's awesome well Joe this has been so much fun we thank you we're excited for our Guinness to get here yes And you're welcome back anytime.

Speaker 7 I appreciate it. You guys have a good one.
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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Akon.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a legend of the game. He has a new mixtape coming out.
Ain't no peace. It is Akon.

Speaker 1 Akon, it's great to have you on, man. You are a legend of the game.
We were actually listening to some of your songs to get us hyped for this interview.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, they're awesome. That's kind of my first question.
They're fucking awesome, dude.

Speaker 10 No, thank you, man. Thank you so much, brother.

Speaker 1 So, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 The new mixtape, when's it coming out?

Speaker 1 Can you tell people what they should be expecting?

Speaker 10 Yeah, so Aino Peace actually just released. It's actually on all your DP, I mean, all your digital platforms as we speak right now.
It dropped last Friday.

Speaker 10 This EP was called Ain't No Peace specifically because of all the social things that was that's been going on in the last during quarantine and shortly before you know with all the police brutality and all the stuff that's going on within the urban neighborhoods and you know the the miscommunication between civilians and police officers and things of this nature so i kind of wanted to address some of that musically from not from a political side or hostile side but just from a person and a people side so people can really understand this kind of reaction and how life is really can be taken in a small little turn on one little incident.

Speaker 10 So I kind of wanted to create it more from a unity standpoint to give every audience an idea and understand the characteristics between both sides to be able to hear it, but through music.

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 yeah, no, that that's I think that's a good cause to be working towards. Can you help me understand?

Speaker 1 Because just talk to me like I'm a four-year-old, like I'm an idiot, but I've always wondered what the differences between an EP, a mixtape, an album, and a record is right.

Speaker 10 So, a record and an album and an LP is all the same.

Speaker 1 Okay, right?

Speaker 10 So, that's just like a body of work.

Speaker 10 An EP is like a mini version of an album. It's like one song short from an official album.
An official album is eight songs or more. Got it.
You know what I mean? And anything less than that is an EP.

Speaker 10 So it's just like a small body of work, right?

Speaker 10 A mixtape is a combination of both. The only difference is a mixtape is more made for the culture.
So when you make a mixtape, you're not really doing it for profit.

Speaker 10 You're either doing it to showcase your talent or you're doing it to spread a specific type of message.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 10 And that on every platform outside of DSPs, mixtape sites, blog sites, it could be anywhere and everything, but you don't really care to monetize it because it's really more so something that just you put out for the people and for your fans.

Speaker 1 I got it. Mixtape is like for fun.
I got it. I got it.
All right. So another question, like a five-year-old, how sick is it to go platinum?

Speaker 10 Oh, dude. I think, especially when you don't expect to go platinum, that's when it becomes sick, right?

Speaker 1 So did you not expect to go platinum when you, because you've gone platinum three times, right?

Speaker 10 Right. But you know what's funny though? Every record that

Speaker 10 I ever put out, like my first album, one, two, and three, all went diamond, right? And diamond is 10 million records sold when you go diamond. When you do 10 million or more, you go diamond.

Speaker 10 Then you got gold, which is 500,000 and platinum, which is a million. But anything, you know, so ultimately when I first, when I first started putting records out, I was never an accolade type person.

Speaker 10 I really didn't care if I sold. I just wanted to be popular and I wanted everybody to know my songs and sing along, right? And I didn't even know that there were a chart or even anything.

Speaker 10 So when they told me I went platinum, I just assumed at that time, oh, wow, so I'm known all over America. I didn't think that platinum was a million records sold.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 10 And then when I went diamond, I was like, oh, shit. So that means I'm known all over the globe.
Yeah. And then later, that means that's 10 million records sold.

Speaker 10 But when the way I calculate, like the way I like

Speaker 10 looked at it and the way it was actually presented, it pretty meant the same thing because normally when you go platinum that means everyone in america pretty much is hip to what you got going on and by the time you go diamond that means everybody in the globe pretty much knows your song or heard of you you know what i mean and i read that you are also the ringtone king So there are more ringtones featuring Akon songs than any other artist out there.

Speaker 1 Is there an award for that? Do you go like cellular? Do you go 5G?

Speaker 1 At what level do you establish yourself as a ringtone king?

Speaker 10 And that's actually a great question because i was getting plaques from verizon and

Speaker 10 and sprint on congratulations you know a million ringtone so 10 million ringtones so then i got this big old plaque with a billion ringtone so and i was like wow but at the time my only focus was honestly selling ringtones because i realized when i did the numbers an average song you know you was paying uh 199 for the single on iTunes you remember those days yeah and then the ringtone was only 15 seconds of the song, but it was 499.

Speaker 10 So I did numbers. I was like, well, hold up.
You know, if 199 gives you a full song and 499 give you 15 seconds of the song, that shifted my whole business model.

Speaker 10 I went straight for the ringtones and every song I made, I made sure I did all ringtones for it. And I made sure that it was based around every time somebody called you, that song will come on.

Speaker 10 It did three things. First, it made me more money.
Number two, it promoted the song because every time you hear it, it's like, who's that?

Speaker 10 Or, or I got to go pick up that, or I need to go listen to that. So, it always reminded people that I existed, you know.

Speaker 10 So, and then the four, the third reason was nobody really was thinking like that, you know, at that time. So, it became something that actually came a huge benefit.

Speaker 10 I ended up being on the Guinness Book of World Records for more ringtones stolen in the world.

Speaker 10 And the good thing that I never gave up my digital rights, I was able to really make more money just from selling ringtones that I did than my label made from selling my albums.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 So, was there ever a song that you wrote like in, and you're like, you know what, this song's going to sound great in the club or the bar, but it's really going to sound great in someone's Nokia.

Speaker 1 Like were you like, we got to make sure we got to fix this so it really pops on the phones.

Speaker 10 Right. So now the funny part about it, my first album, when I made those records, I didn't anticipate ringtones because at that time, ringtones didn't exist.

Speaker 10 But by the time, but what went up happening on my first album, the biggest ringtone record that was sold was Mr. Lonely.

Speaker 10 You know, so, but then by the time the second album came, I knew that ringtones would be huge.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 So, the

Speaker 10 songs I made on that album specifically was made for if the phone ring, what would be, what would it actually sound cool?

Speaker 10 And one of them was SmackDown, the other one was, I want to, I want to love you.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. So, have you written a song that is like specifically geared towards like this song is about being called on the phone?

Speaker 10 Yes, I actually did that. And

Speaker 10 I was supposed to do a deal with Samsung for that specific song on all their handhelds. And then that's when the merge happened at Universal and everything kind of shifted a whole other way.

Speaker 10 And I couldn't quite make the deal because Universal at the time owned my masters. So I kind of lost that opportunity, but I was already thinking that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you mentioned SmackDown. Do you ever think that at somewhere, somewhere in the world, at any given time, two strangers are grinding for the first time to SmackDown?

Speaker 1 Happening. Right now, right now, now.
Right this second.

Speaker 10 Right now. Right this second.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 You're making people fall in love right now on the dance floor. Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's what's up, man. That's what's up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true. It's happening right now.

Speaker 1 So another part of your career that is underrated is that your eye for talent is exceptional. You signed Lady Gaga and T-Pain before they kind of blew up.

Speaker 1 What was it or what is it that you see in people?

Speaker 10 Or what's that defining factor that you're like, like okay this person they have it i have to be working with them man i think the it factor you can never describe is just you you just don't know until you see it and you'll be like oh that's it like that's it you like it's not it's it's so hard it's almost like an instinct like you riding down the street and something tells you to make a left turn but then you you don't follow your instinct you make a right turn and then something bad happens and you're like damn i knew i should have made that left when my instincts told me that's how it is when finding a superstar your instinct just tells you oh, shit, that's a star right there.

Speaker 10 You just know. I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 1 I just know. So you felt it when you first saw Lady Gaga? You're like, okay, that's it.
Like, she's going to be incredible.

Speaker 10 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 10 I felt from the moment I met her, but then she made, she confirmed it when she went in the booth to demo the song out. That's when I was like, oh, yes, this chick is a star.

Speaker 1 Is there somebody that you've met that you've been like, ah, I don't know. And you kind of passed on them.

Speaker 1 And then you saw a couple years later, they blew up and you're like, shit, my eye wasn't right that day.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 10 And every day I'll be like, damn, how did i miss that one but it was drake oh really well no i'm with you i agree with you wait so so what was the what was your first introduction to drake you you like heard him you saw him and you're like nope not gonna have it no no actually this was before uh years before i even met drake i had an artist named cardinal official and he was also from canada and cardi brought me a mixtape that he did before the um

Speaker 10 um i think the record he had was the best i ever had yeah so uh he played me the mixtape, but at the time, he didn't sound obviously anything like he sounds today because he sounded more like a Eminem type of rapper at that time.

Speaker 10 You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 And in my mind, I'm like, yeah, he's a dope rapper, but there's someone out there that kind of the style was super similar and was very like it just wasn't original enough for me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, yeah, looking back on it, that probably cost you tens of millions of dollars.
That sucks.

Speaker 10 No, I mean, you're not going to catch them all. And, you know, you're not, really can't, you really can't,

Speaker 10 you could say, predict someone's growth because everyone grows differently. And boy, that that boy grow.

Speaker 10 Cause I mean, even I think there was a moment where Sylvia Rohn thought that Trey Song was going to be bigger than Drake. You know, no one's anticipated Drake's growing the way he grew.

Speaker 10 Like right now, he's probably one of my favorite rappers if I had to pick one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's, that's wild that you've, that, that is like your coaching tree almost, is that you've got Lady Gaga and all those people that have kind of like followed you along.

Speaker 10 What, what type of mentorship do you provide to them to like help them reach that star status well it's it's more so just kind of polishing and and and and like injecting the confidence in what they already have because you really can't like i always i always disagree when people say well they can make people or or i made you or because of me you wouldn't be who you are i always believe that people have natural talents and you just got to help them discover that talent within themselves because once they get that confident then they can man they'll show you parts of them that you never even saw was even there you know what i mean that's what's kind of hinders artists from getting to that that place is that lack of fearlessness and that lack of confidence i think the moment they acquire those two parts man the sky's the limit as to how far they can go can we talk real quick about your city that you're building you're building a futurist futuristic city in uh africa that has its own cryptocurrency called a coin now right Did you do this whole thing because Acoin is just like the perfect name for a cryptocurrency?

Speaker 1 You're like, I got to build a cryptocurrency. Might as well build the city around that.

Speaker 10 Well, it it was actually,

Speaker 10 it's almost in that order.

Speaker 10 Almost in that order. So I got involved in cryptocurrency back in 2013 or 14 when I met Brock Pierce.
At the time, he was one of the biggest

Speaker 10 Bitcoin holders, and he's very influential in the Bitcoin world, considered to be one of the founders of a group of other founders, but he's like super impactful in that space.

Speaker 10 And a guy named Ken Rakowski

Speaker 10 actually introduced me to him. So he kind of schooled me to what it was, how it was moving.
And at that time, I saw how digital payments were growing really fast

Speaker 10 because they were already doing it in Africa,

Speaker 10 but they hadn't reached it in America yet to that level. So I had kind of already understood the concept.

Speaker 10 But then when he walked me through the process of how Bitcoin worked, the back end, and then gave me the idea of what all blockchain meant and how it actually

Speaker 10 was impactful to the platform itself, that's when I was like, oh, this is the solution for Africa. So I said, I got to create my own African coin.
So I called it the A coin for African coin.

Speaker 1 It just so happened. Oh, it just so happens.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 A coin.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So I was like, this was meant for me. This is perfect.
You know what I mean? It all kind of rolled together.

Speaker 10 But then if you have a coin, you all, and mine is a utilization, you know, utilizations coin. So I have to have something you can utilize it towards, right?

Speaker 10 You can't have a coin and you can't spend it or you can't use it towards anything of value.

Speaker 10 So my whole idea is I want to tokenize not only the entrepreneurs all throughout Africa and the resources that Africa already has to give, but something on their everyday, basic, everyday life.

Speaker 10 Because we started to realize that you can go to certain parts of villages and people were using their cell phone minutes as currency.

Speaker 10 Like they would go in and buy some fish and then transfer like maybe 10 minutes of cell phone minutes for the purchase of that. That's how crazy and how

Speaker 10 you could say how uh unconfident they were of the local dollar.

Speaker 10 So that's what I said okay we need to create not only the a coin but we want to create what we now call the atomic swap where you can actually take your cell phone minutes and you can actually convert those to actually a coins and spill real currency and when you travel outside of africa those acoins will have and hold the same value the atomic swap is just a badass name that's very cool so wait so how you like that yeah that's awesome i really like it how's the city going where where are you at in terms of the the building of the city and for like so the city was it took about five years to materialize to where we are today um it's an eight billion dollar project but then we brought it down to a $6 billion project.

Speaker 10 Just last month, we were able to secure the $6 billion for the city. So now we have everything in order, including the master plan of the city.
And come January of 2021, we start construction.

Speaker 10 So, first phase, which will be in three phases, a 10-year project. First phase is the first three years.

Speaker 10 You'll be able to, after the first phase of the first building project, you'll be able to fly into the city, have fun, work, and play by 2024.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. What a plan.
Well, I mean, like, you talk about dreaming big. I mean, $8 billion is more than $60,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. So you are building an entire city.

Speaker 1 What goes along with that for you? Like, do you become king of that city or when you fly in? Like, what type of rights do you get there?

Speaker 10 Yeah. So, what I'm trying to do is make it a free zone where it's a tax-free zone.

Speaker 10 And also, I'm trying to set it up to where when you come into Acoin, I mean, Acon City, you also come in, you can actually apply for your own passport to the city.

Speaker 10 So it becomes a city independent of the city that it's actually sitting in. And we want to do it all throughout Africa and eventually one day take it outside of America.

Speaker 10 I mean, outside of Africa, into America and also into certain places like India, China, and to places in Latin America. But to answer your question.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I would be considered pretty much the king of the city because I will be owning it.

Speaker 1 So you said that you want people to fly in, have fun. What does that look like? What is your vision for the city?

Speaker 10 Oh, man, the city is crazy. Like, we have a tech district where you got all the matrix tech stuff that will be based in there.
We're working out now partnerships now.

Speaker 10 You know, we want the world to have to be able to come and be able to visit the Amazon or the Googles or the Apples of the world or the Alibabas of the world, places like that where it's all tech hubs and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 Then we have the entertainment side of it where we're going to have recording studios for music,

Speaker 10 film studios for film development and things of that nature. And then of course we got

Speaker 10 mad sound stages for concerts, stadiums, for ball games, whether it's soccer or football or wherever, things like that. And also major concerts as well.

Speaker 10 And then we have the theme park section where it's all family and friendly. So it's like a small mini Disney world that's connected to that.

Speaker 10 So when all the tourists come, they can bring their children, keep them busy. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 10 Then we also have the business district, where it's just all Fortune 500 companies, you know, major Fortune 5 companies that's looking for bases within Africa.

Speaker 10 They could actually set their home base for all of Africa right there in Acon City and be, you know, pretty much open and have access to everything that actually you know that's wrapped around it.

Speaker 10 So it's pretty much a 360 concept idea. We'll also have hospitals in there, our own police department, our own fire department, and of real infrastructure that actually goes through the whole process.

Speaker 10 And we're also killing about to kill everybody because we're trying to get the Hyperloop, which is a train system that gets you from A to Z within seconds.

Speaker 10 Like, like, I don't know if you guys read up on the Hyperloop, but it's one of them things that get you from like one point to about five miles in like two, three seconds.

Speaker 1 literally like

Speaker 10 wait so is that isn't that is that the elon musk one like have you been talking have you been working with elon um elon actually i think from i don't want to go too far with this information because some of it is qualified i mean um um uh you can see what they call confidential

Speaker 10 right but and some of it might be true might not be true but there's been some real conversations as to um uh what's the name now open now managing the project and bought it from elon um uh uh what's the name the one that owns version richard Branson.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So now it's a Richard Branson concept and idea. I think Elon is still attached to it somehow.

Speaker 10 But, you know, I know my people, when they were talking, they were talking amongst those two, those two people there.

Speaker 1 Damn. So this project sounds like something I would come up with if I was like really high in a room with my friends.

Speaker 1 And then the next morning, I'd wake up the next day and be like, that was a cool conversation, but I'm never going to take any steps towards doing it. Right.

Speaker 1 Because it's actually like an insane amount of work to do. Have you thought about just like stopping it?

Speaker 1 I bet that would be a rush if you were just like, nah, you know what? Never mind. I'm going to give up.
Like, it seems like there are a lot of points along the way that you could give up on this.

Speaker 10 Yeah. The thing is, like, to me, it was more about the adventure, right? And it never started to become a project of this magnitude.

Speaker 10 It started off as, you know, buying the land and started building real estate on it and things like this. And as this time went on, ideas started to splurge.

Speaker 10 You know, we started to expand even wider, started to figure out how we could scale it out and how we could make it bigger. And then in time, it just became this big.

Speaker 10 But I think it's all about collaboration you know i treat my business ventures just the way same way i treat music you know you you know if you don't really have or know anything in that space you hire professionals in that space and you just pay them what they're worth and you're gonna get your full value out of it and before you know it they bring in other professionals that actually that adds to it and you have a full team naturally just working for you and then it becomes your vision that they're helping you execute damn and so i'm assuming that you're going to be able to purchase a con ringtones with a coin that way you get the transaction fee as well oh 100 one yeah your ringtones ring back tones, all the

Speaker 1 pictures. You already got a Gucci store in there.
I'm looking at pictures of your city.

Speaker 1 That's pretty sick.

Speaker 10 You're going to have all the major hot top, you know, top brands. They're all going to be within the shopping district.
So when you go there, you won't miss a beat.

Speaker 10 But the difference is you're going to discover stuff over there and designs over there that you would never see anywhere else in the world.

Speaker 10 Because I mean, one of the most amazing, craziest, out-of-the-space and out-of-this-world type designers are all African man. And stop the stuff that they come up with mentally.

Speaker 10 It's just out of, and then you team them up with, you know, real design, you know, designers and top-notch, you know, like brands with those type of designs. It's only exclusive to Acon City.

Speaker 10 I guarantee you, bro, you're going to go out there coming back looking crazy.

Speaker 1 Are you going to have a sports team?

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, we plan to do that too. Cause I don't know if you know that NBA Africa has now been active.
So I've been a part of that in the beginning of the stages.

Speaker 10 So we all plan to also have a team that I'm working on and speaking to NBA Africa about for Acon City to have its own team as well.

Speaker 1 Do you know what the team team name is going to be?

Speaker 10 I haven't figured that out yet, but it's going to be related to convicts somehow.

Speaker 1 Okay. God damn.

Speaker 1 What a cool idea.

Speaker 1 I don't think that people necessarily know that, but when they think about the dude that sings don't matter, he's also the guy that brought electricity to what, 14 countries in Africa?

Speaker 1 So you've actually executed on some of this before. Is it at 14 now?

Speaker 10 Yeah, we're at 16 countries all throughout Africa. We have pilots everywhere there.

Speaker 10 And the whole idea for that, as you know, was to electrify the rural areas and you know the villages and places where people didn't have access to electricity and it ended up becoming a for-profit business now where we're actually a full you like utilized utilizational tool for energy there so we have a full energy company now so it's like and we also we were so successful in africa that we created our um a company here in America.

Speaker 10 And here we're doing it on a

Speaker 10 utility scale as well, where we're in Texas and also in Arizona doing about 2. I think three gigawatts of electricity that we're doing through solar to provide electricity.
And now we're working on

Speaker 10 a

Speaker 10 full known project now where we're decommissionizing all the coal plants and turning them into

Speaker 10 solar, solar and renewable sources of energy.

Speaker 1 Damn. So let's just say flash forward like 60, 70 years, like maybe it's 2090 or something like that.

Speaker 1 What do you want, what does Acon want to be known by when this is, when, when your life's over, when people are remembering your career and your life, do you want to be known as a musician, as an entrepreneur, as ringtone kids?

Speaker 1 Yeah, all these people that'll be walking around that were probably conceived to your songs.

Speaker 1 What do you want them to think about when they hear the name Akon?

Speaker 10 Well, I think it's going to be all of the above, but in the end of it, I just want them to say, wow, this dude made a huge impact. Like he really made an impact.

Speaker 10 And then when they say, well, how did he make an impact? There's endless of things that they can mention to say, this is how he did it.

Speaker 1 Wow. So I had another music question.

Speaker 1 I've always been curious curious about like how the collaboration works, whether it be you collaborating on someone else's album or they collaborating on your album. How does that work?

Speaker 1 Do you always have that in mind? Like, all right, I want to work with X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 1 I have to then do something for them. Or how does that all kind of play out?

Speaker 10 Well, it's interesting because it's really a mixture of all of the above. Again, in the beginning, when I first started, My collaboration was very

Speaker 10 tactical. I had to find, like, I had to think about everything.
So I was very strategic as to how and who I collaborated with in the beginning, because ultimately I did it to gain a fan base.

Speaker 10 So I would look at all my BDSs and see where I was getting airplay and where I was super popular in areas where I wasn't as popular.

Speaker 10 Then I would collaborate with the most popular artists in that area to be introduced by that market. So that's how I was able to grow as fast as I did.

Speaker 10 And then once you get there, you start to create.

Speaker 10 all these friends that you collaborate with in the past and it becomes something that's fun for you guys to just do it and then then on a business level, of course, when you don't know people as well as you do, you charge them whatever your fee is.

Speaker 10 And then he charges you whatever his fee is. At that moment, we wanted to charge each other because it wasn't coming from our pocket.
The label was paying for it. So we will make money for each other.

Speaker 10 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 But now

Speaker 10 direct to consumer and everything is so independently done. It's like if we come out of pocket, it's literally coming out of our pocket.
So now we do what you call a basic swap. I do a song for you.

Speaker 10 You do a song for me. And then we split the royalties or publishing or wherever down the middle.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's cool. Okay, so

Speaker 1 yeah, in today's, you know, in the age of digital music, I've always heard that the artists are getting the short end of the stick more and more on this.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that this is something that you've thought about is like how, how does the music industry self-correct so that all the money isn't going either to a big corporation that is the platform for it or the record labels, especially now since you can't tour.

Speaker 1 Like, how have you kind of seen the future of the music industry taking shape in a way that could benefit the artist?

Speaker 10 well the only way it benefits the artist is if the artist is independent um

Speaker 10 but that's only if the artist is already an a-list artist already has a name or audience for themselves then the independent independent route is the best way to go somebody like me definitely independent 1000

Speaker 10 um if it's an artist that's unknown and needs to build that base then attaching themselves to a label or some kind of organization or brand is the best way for them to go so you almost have to sacrifice yourself to become uh valuable enough to do it yourself.

Speaker 10 But if you start with someone from the beginning, I think it's only right to allow them to attach and somehow participate in future earnings because they did contribute to helping you get to where you are.

Speaker 10 But I guess that depends on the person's morale or that person's

Speaker 10 integrity to an extent. But if they're just a strewed businessman, they will probably utilize the label of someone as a stepping stone to get to that point.

Speaker 10 They completely branch off to do their own thing.

Speaker 1 So I had one last question. It's been awesome.

Speaker 1 And everyone should listen to Acon's new mixtape, which is out now.

Speaker 1 Make sure you do that. So, my last question, it's called Ain't No Peace, by the way.

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Speaker 1 You were the first solo artist to hold both both the number one and two spots simultaneously on the Billboard Hot 100.

Speaker 1 Was there ever a moment that you got sick of hearing your own song just constantly played? When you were like, when it was really hot and it was everywhere you went, it was Acon, Acon, Acon.

Speaker 1 Was there ever a moment like, let's listen to something else?

Speaker 10 Well, to be honest, I was tired of hearing my voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You were everywhere.
Everywhere.

Speaker 10 It wasn't a station I would turn to. Because sometimes I would try to turn to even an AM station to just escape.

Speaker 10 And even the AM stations, they would do talk breaks and then they may have one song that may play within four or five hours and it happens to be one of my songs.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 right? Right.

Speaker 10 So I mean, I was everywhere.

Speaker 10 That's why it had gotten to the point where I just stopped listening to the music altogether because I would have to hear it everywhere I went, whether I was in a restaurant or bowling

Speaker 10 or, you know, and then on top of everywhere being everywhere to hear myself everywhere, i would have constant tours and shows where i have to also sing it too yes you know believe me when i tell you and then every every phone that i was next to if they had a ringtone most likely was one of my songs so

Speaker 10 can you imagine hearing my high-pitched ass voice

Speaker 10 so when i took that break and went back to africa it was like it was perfect you know so it kind of allowed me to kind of reset a little bit but yeah to answer your question i did get tired of hearing myself

Speaker 1 when they were number one and two simultaneously, were you rooting for one song over the other to be number one?

Speaker 10 Dude, I didn't even know what that meant at the time. I just thought, okay, uh, SmackDown went number one.
Oh, guess what? I want to love you. Also, went number one.

Speaker 10 I didn't know, I didn't even know they were fighting to get, you know, flop swaps. Like, I had no idea what was going on until they came and they said, Yo, do you know what just happened?

Speaker 10 I was like, No, he said, Dude, you got you was number one. Both your songs, number one, and number two at the same time.
And then they swapped places.

Speaker 10 Then the other number two was number one and number one. It was number two.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 that's awesome that's awesome yeah well

Speaker 1 thinking about it today that accomplishment yeah yeah it's incredible well Acon this has been awesome man we really appreciate it everyone like I said go uh listen to Acon's new mixtape ain't no peace and we're excited for the city I'm I want to go to the city yes when it's ready to go I want to go to the city no let's listen I can't wait to host you guys man I'm gonna be super excited bro can you gamble on sports there man they got listen we got everything set up all the the way.

Speaker 10 And no, this was even crazy. And a lot of people don't even know, but we're going to have in Acon City one of the biggest surfing conventions in the city.

Speaker 10 So if you guys are into surfing, that, bro, and a lot of people don't know that Senegal right now in all of Africa is one of the biggest surfing destinations in the world. Okay.
In the world.

Speaker 1 Okay. Above hole.

Speaker 1 Everywhere. I'm not into surfing, but I'll get into surfing.
for to go visit your city.

Speaker 10 Bro, you gotta, you got, I,

Speaker 10 me and and you on a,

Speaker 10 I'm like, I'm serious with that surfing. People don't know that.

Speaker 1 Okay. God damn it.
This sounds awesome. You've thought of everything.
All right. Well, are you going to run for president?

Speaker 10 If I do run, it's probably going to be either 2025 or 2029.

Speaker 1 Well, neither of those are election years, so you'll probably win.

Speaker 10 Or in 2028.

Speaker 1 There you go. Okay.
I like, though, I think that'd be cool to just run for president in years when there's not an election. Yeah.
Just do your own thing. Can't lose.

Speaker 10 Dude, have you ever had an idea and been like no that's too crazy that's too wild i'm not going to do that nah you know what i actually i've never no you know what i did one time and that was to skydive i said

Speaker 10 oh yeah i'm gonna do it then i got on the plane went 30 000 feet in the sky or was it 10 000 10.

Speaker 10 yeah it was it was 10 000 feet in the sky and i said no i'm not gonna do it But then I got all the way up there and felt like a pussy. I said, no, I came this far.
I got to go do it.

Speaker 10 And then I finally did it. And then now, no matter where I go in the world, I always got to find.
If they got skydiving, I always pop off the plane.

Speaker 1 What? So now you're skydiving too?

Speaker 10 It's amazing.

Speaker 1 I've done it once, but that's the only time I ever need to do it. I'm never doing it again.

Speaker 10 Dude, it depends on where you do it. And if you do it in an area where it's cold, the experience is different.
But when you do it in an area like Dubai or the Middle East.

Speaker 10 Africa, someplace where it's naturally hot,

Speaker 10 I don't know what it is. I think because the heat, it allows you to float slower because somehow the heat kind of keeps you to where you can kind of manage.

Speaker 10 It's rising up, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's deep, but it's it's a different experience, bro. It's like you're floating.

Speaker 1 Well, I love all your ideas, Acon. You're like, you know, Elon Musk is looking up to outer space.
He's like, I'm going to go explore that plane.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go land on this asteroid and try to fuck it. You're like, I'm focused on Earth.
There's so much stuff that I can do down here. And it sounds like you've been very successful.

Speaker 1 So I wish you the best. I can't wait to visit Acon City and spend like $1,000 worth of Acorn every minute.

Speaker 1 So I'm a sucker. I'm the person that you want to go visit Acon City.
Yes.

Speaker 10 Don't worry. You're going to get VIP passes, baby.

Speaker 1 Love it. Love it.
All right. Well, thank you so much, Acon.
We really appreciate it, man.

Speaker 10 No, you got it, man. Thank you so much, bro.

Speaker 5 Hey, what's going on there, pal?

Speaker 9 We saw you at the hockey game on.

Speaker 3 Do I know you guys?

Speaker 1 I'm Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 9 I got a drink named after me.

Speaker 7 Not a big deal.

Speaker 4 Pink Whitney?

Speaker 1 That's what I thought.

Speaker 5 See you, fellas.

Speaker 9 I invented the thing, you pigeon.

Speaker 1 Pink Whitney, for legendary moments. Alright, let's finish up with a couple segments in Billy's list.
By the way, Hank, that was dirty what you just did. Hank just texted me.

Speaker 1 I texted the group. If the Lakers advance past the first round, they plan to wear black mama jerseys to honor Kobe Bryant in the following rounds.

Speaker 1 Respect. So that means that after I just went on that rant about how the Blazers have no chance, the Blazers will absolutely win.
And then they'll never wear the jerseys. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 And Laker Dan will strike again. That sounds good.
I just said it'd be a shame, which it wouldn't be. Blazers in five.
Oh, my God. I've revised my prediction.
Oh, Blazers in five.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you keep talking. I'll drop it to four.
Oh,

Speaker 1 fucking crazy. You won't do it.

Speaker 1 Blazers in five still. Okay.

Speaker 1 We have talking soccer

Speaker 1 Messi.

Speaker 1 Messi got his shit pushed. He's the only guy on the field.
He can't. What's the Giselle? He can't throw and catch.
He cannot kick

Speaker 1 and throw the ball in. He can.
He can't do anything more, yeah. But

Speaker 1 he can't play defense and offense at the same time. He can't stop eight goals from Bayern Munich.
That was that, whatever. Guess what? You know who wasn't playing on Friday? Ronaldo.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Because he's out. Yeah.
But Messi now wants to transfer. He wants to leave, even though he's got another year.
Let's get some with some winners. Why doesn't Messi go to MLS?

Speaker 1 It's about that. Orlando needs a guy.
There you go. He's like 33.
Oh, he's he's not about that time. He would fucking wreck the MLS.
They should just give Messi an MLS team. Yes.
Be like, hey,

Speaker 1 bring whoever you want. They make them out of thin air.
Yes. Yeah.
Here, Messi, you get the Youngstown Penguins. There we go.
Boom, done.

Speaker 1 And you don't have to worry about the tax evasion charges that everybody gets in soccer every single year.

Speaker 1 No, actually, they should give him a team in Delaware. Boom.
Tax haven, Messi, you get the Delaware fighting Dells. Yeah, the Delawares.
The Delawares. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Deladovas.

Speaker 1 There you go. Nice.
Nice. I like that.
Yeah. Messi,

Speaker 1 I hope he does eventually come to the MLS. I'm sure that he will in like seven years once he's totally washed up.
Yeah. But they're saying he might go to Man City or Man U.

Speaker 1 And that was talking something. That would be cool.
I'm down for it. I need my guy.
I need my GOAT to be with some winners. If not, losers.

Speaker 1 If you don't think Messi's the goat, then you're a fucking idiot. Yes.
Fucking idiot. Stupid.
I also have a Mike Greenberg's dumb rules. This just came across.

Speaker 1 So this is per John Heyman. Said new MLB COVID rule players who test positive can apply to return to play in 10 days, even if they continue to test positive, but still need MLB joint committee okay.

Speaker 1 And they're very likely to be allowed back after 14 days, even with continuing positives. Reasoning, contagiousness dissipates.

Speaker 1 So baseball, I guess, is like 20 steps ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to this.

Speaker 1 I'm actually, you know what? I'm going to give baseball a little bit of credit on this one.

Speaker 1 Because for for once, they're doing something that doesn't involve just like slapping an extra DH on there and calling that how they're addressing these. Yes, okay.
So verbal meme. Good job.

Speaker 1 The tank of water is everything going to shit. And then the tape that's going over, the flex seal that's going over it is more DHs.
Rob Manford's brain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got a lab coat on and he's figured out this COVID thing. He just fucking loves DHs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 UFC, by the way, we should at least talk about it. The iPoke

Speaker 1 fight.

Speaker 1 holy shit and now everyone obviously saw stipe's eye poke with uh cormier but cormier had poked him in the eye earlier in the fight right so it was a little like hey even all fair and love and war we can just poke the fuck out of each other but that thing was knucks deep two to three knuckles deep he found the g spot in daniel cormier's brain that was a nasty look and then even after the fight cormier was like yeah i still can't see on my left eye yeah i ever again

Speaker 1 that looked like, that was like Billy and his frogs. Yeah.
That's how hard he went in.

Speaker 1 He got really deep in there. Yes.
I think he left a ring behind. Mm-hmm.
Hopefully Daniel Cormier doesn't die like Bertha. Would you rather get poked in the eye? That's fine.

Speaker 1 Be a frog who got fingered by Billy. No.
Or have somebody stomp on your foot in an MMA fight? Ooh.

Speaker 1 I would say stomped on the foot. Yeah, probably.
Yeah. Yeah.
Poked in the eye. You're just never right again.

Speaker 1 The nice part about getting fingered by Billy if you're a frog is at least you die afterwards, So you don't have to think about it too much. Yeah, that's true.
I'm officially unemployable.

Speaker 1 That's that happened a long time ago my friend All right last up. Let's do Billy's list.
Oh, yeah

Speaker 1 Take a look at the old packet here Billy. Let's see the packets

Speaker 1 a rod clear-cut favorite to buy the Mets from the Alex Jones Times. Mm-hmm

Speaker 1 Let's see

Speaker 1 none of these are really Billy. Did you put anything about the fire tornado in here? Oh fire tornado is wild.
That is the murder horn of weather.

Speaker 1 Hey, dude, like, 2020 is not bad enough.

Speaker 1 Check that on your bingo cards. Yeah, 2020.

Speaker 1 Is there anything about Soul Spinoza?

Speaker 1 That's another one that's getting the cheap. Like the Cormier Steepe iPoke, Steepe, 2020, Daniel Cormier, all of us.

Speaker 1 Those are free. That's free cloud online, folks.
It's going to be point out the fact that 2020 sucks. It's going to be so sweet on January 1st when everything starts to kick ass again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all right, here's a good one. Let's finish with this.
How strong are gorillas?

Speaker 1 I generally...

Speaker 1 Gorillas are four to nine times stronger than the average male human being. According to the Guinness Book of Records, a silverback gorilla can lift up to 1,800 pounds of dead weight.

Speaker 1 In comparison, a well-trained human being can lift a maximum of 410 kilograms, 900 pounds. This is a very rough calculation.

Speaker 1 There are many variables to consider, but it gives us a good general picture. How do we know that?

Speaker 1 Are there gyms in nature in the world?

Speaker 1 Think about this. A gorilla is never trained in bodybuilding.
That's true. Powerlifting.
They've never got them on a cycle. So think about how much they could lift if they trained.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's fucked up that whenever we get an awesome gorilla in captivity, we just teach it sign language and give it a cat that's going to die eventually. Right.

Speaker 1 Instead of just putting it in a gym and being like, yo, get some gadgets.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Spot me.
All right. That's a good way to end the show, Billy.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 You have, well, we'll see everyone Wednesday who are gonna run on Wednesday we got a lot of stuff to do Yeah, we got a lot of we got

Speaker 1 we'll have to have a sidebar behind us We'll have a lot of people, but yes maybe someone from the list maybe someone from which list

Speaker 1 oh Yeah, maybe someone from the list but actually never mind probably but never mind probably

Speaker 1 don't worry about it the

Speaker 1 vanny woodhead is still oh yeah yeah the list yeah yeah okay got it um

Speaker 1 and also wednesday be ready because we're probably going to do double Soggy Sorrows. Yep.
PFT and I are going to. All your dreams are coming true, folks.

Speaker 1 PFT and I are going to take a shower live together. Billy, hit the meme.

Speaker 1 Pressers. There you go.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm mourning.

Speaker 1 Say something. Billy's sitting.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're sitting Shiva right now.

Speaker 1 Do you think Jake's going to beat me today?

Speaker 1 Honestly, I think you got a leg up on him. Oh,

Speaker 1 Billy's cheesing after that. Would you like to see

Speaker 1 about that dead frog?

Speaker 1 Your frog is fucking dead, dude.

Speaker 1 This is so fucked up.

Speaker 1 Imagine. Dead ass frog.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 what a bitch. Any other any thoughts, Billy? No, I'm like upset.
Are you upset that your frog's dead or that we we made fun of it? Now that the internet's gonna be telling me that I fuck frogs.

Speaker 1 No, you don't fuck them, you just you finger. It sucks.

Speaker 1 Anyway, love you guys.

Speaker 1 He was in a bite and way behind and willing to make a deal when he came across this young man picking a guitar and playing it hot.

Speaker 1 The devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, Boy, let me tell you what.

Speaker 1 I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a guitar player, too.

Speaker 1 And if you care to take this dare, I'll make a bet with you. You're a pretty damn good scumber, boy, but give the devil his due.
I'll bet a guitar of gold against your soul.

Speaker 1 It says I'm better than you. But the boy said, My name is Johnny, and it might be a sin.
But I'll take your bet, you're gonna regret. I'm the best it's ever been.
Seven, let's take

Speaker 1 each other.

Speaker 1 Simon,

Speaker 1 take up me.

Speaker 1 Fire flew from his fingertips as he tuned his axe down low. And he pulled that pick across the strings and it made an evil hiss.
Then a band of demons all joined in and it sounded just like this.

Speaker 1 All things I could take,

Speaker 1 little I thought, just play that worry away.

Speaker 1 You are things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 Locking beautiful anyway.

Speaker 1 Take on me.

Speaker 1 Take on me.

Speaker 1 isle.

Speaker 1 Take on the

Speaker 1 field.

Speaker 1 Take off the isle bags.

Speaker 1 Take up your old ass in that. Come on, man.
Let me show you how to fucking die.

Speaker 1 Take on the isle.

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