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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have Mike Golick Sr.

Speaker 1 talk to him about the last couple of weeks. His radio show obviously ended.
Talk about his Hall of Fame radio career, some inside the biz. Really honest, candid interview from

Speaker 1 Mike Golick, and I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 It was cool to hear hear him talk about his career, maybe some of the things that he's not so happy about and how they ended, but also some of the good things about his career. We have that.

Speaker 1 We have Fire Fest of the Week. We have an NBA playoff picture set, except for the 8-9 seed, which we will find out.

Speaker 1 And we have Rose. We're returning Rose, listener Rose, with our friend Joey Molinaro.

Speaker 1 Great fantasy fuckboy name. Molinaro.
Joey Molinaro. he's going to do some Colin Coward style roasts for us at the end of the show.

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Today is Friday, August 14th.

Speaker 1 PFT, I am in the stage of grief where I am.

Speaker 1 What are the different stages of grief?

Speaker 5 Denial.

Speaker 1 Already there.

Speaker 1 That was basically the last two months.

Speaker 5 Denial, bargaining is the second.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 5 So I think I moved directly to bargaining when I was like, let's try to get some of the weird NFL games in place of the college football.

Speaker 1 Right, what's three?

Speaker 5 Three is acceptance.

Speaker 1 And then. Is that it?

Speaker 7 Is it just three? I think so.

Speaker 1 There's an acronym that we learned in Psych called Dabda. Dabda?

Speaker 8 Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

Speaker 1 Depression, acceptance. Okay, so I think I'm still in bargaining then.
By the way, Jake is, Hank's on vacation again.

Speaker 5 Well deserved.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we got, it's Jake, Bubba, and Billy here. So I'm in bargaining because this is my bargain.

Speaker 1 I don't really want to watch college football without the bands

Speaker 1 and the student section. But with like the home crowds, like, what is that?

Speaker 5 Did they say the bands would be canceled?

Speaker 1 Well, the game's canceled the bands are canceled they well what do you know that oh no i'm i'm talking about big 10 and pac 12.

Speaker 1 okay i would like i'm like you know what if like if they had it and there were no fans and there's no student section and no bands like what would that even be they could pump in the band sound nah no i need to see it i need to see it so exactly it sounds to me that you're in the acceptance part oh that is that acceptance well your your acceptance is contingent on denial right so you're not really accepting this is a fake acceptance on your part okay yeah i'll

Speaker 5 I'll accept that. Yes, that's better than denial.
That's better than depression. So now you're just fake happy about it.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what's going to happen with the rest of the conferences, but we'll see. There's just high-level meetings all the time.
Big 12 is trying to save everything, I guess.

Speaker 5 I think the SEC is going to do it. The SEC is in full-on fuck it mode, or at least like we're going to delay, delay, delay, delay, delay until the very last second.
They might even delay again.

Speaker 5 It's like right now the kickoff is September 26th or something like that for the SEC. They might just push it back to October.

Speaker 5 Then they might just push it back to November and be like, we'll cram in a full 10-game schedule in five weeks, and I'll still like hang on. Yes.
Just give me that little tiny, tiny bit of false hope.

Speaker 1 I don't think they'll play if they're alone. I think they will play if the ACC and the Big 12 is in there.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Like, I said that about March Madness.
Like, don't cancel anything.

Speaker 1 Just keep pretending that it's going to happen in a week and then push it off another week and I'll be happy about that.

Speaker 5 I want to hear what Feinbaum callers are saying right now. If Feinbaum callers are still focusing on actual football, then I have hope.

Speaker 5 But if they're starting to enter those stages of grief, then I think that might be a problem. They're like the canary in a coal mine.

Speaker 5 Once Phyllis from Tuscaloosa calls up and she's like, COVID ain't play nobody, pal. At that point, I'm going to be like, yeah, it might not happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, what's his name? Harvey Updike. Like, rest in peace, he died at the right time.

Speaker 5 Well, I think it's causation there. I think college football, the lack of college football

Speaker 1 yes um so we also the other part of like accepting all the news this week is perspective because umass head football coach walt bell had uh the football guy of the millennium quote he said you know my dad passed away in 2008 my biological mom odd in 2012 and to be honest with you this is probably a tougher day than both of those football is dead wow football is dead uh yeah that's i mean that's

Speaker 6 an all-time football guy quote for sure.

Speaker 1 Can I actually defend him for a second? Because people were obviously saying, like, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 I kind of get where he's coming from only because, well, one, because it seemed like his relationship with his mom, saying biological mother feels like there's more to it than just, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 She might not be in his life.

Speaker 5 And also instead of saying died for her, he said OD.

Speaker 1 So there's something there. But I actually understand what he's saying because

Speaker 1 canceling the football season, he has to take the grief and be the guy for 100 other guys.

Speaker 1 Grief of losing someone in your family,

Speaker 1 you deal with that alone. This is a grief where he has to stand in front of 100 kids and be like, we're not playing football this year, and has to like basically shoulder that burden for them.

Speaker 5 Well, it's tough for him. So I think that's different.

Speaker 1 I think it's different.

Speaker 5 There's no funeral for a college football season.

Speaker 1 Well, they should bury a football. They can't get over it.

Speaker 5 They should. There should absolutely be a funeral for it.
Billy, what were you going to say?

Speaker 9 What were were you going to say?

Speaker 7 The shoulders of a hundred dreams, dying.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
There we go.

Speaker 1 What a quote, Billy. That really did.
That's the current of your head.

Speaker 5 The shoulders of a dream.

Speaker 1 Shoulders of a hundred dreams. He has to shoulder the burden of a hundred dreams.
Yes.

Speaker 5 That's what I said.

Speaker 1 Shoulder a hundred dreams.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 5 it's tough. It's tough for him.
I get that.

Speaker 5 But it is like now I want to bet on that guy to win every single game next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should. Bubba has three-fourths of a degree from UMass.
Half. Oh, only half? Yeah, half.
Okay, half. We have the greatest, like,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 the combo of Jake, who went to Syracuse Journalism School, the second best behind, what's the name, New House. You went to Medille.

Speaker 5 Columbia is pretty good, too.

Speaker 8 You guys have this little shtick of making fun of New House, but you realize you're praising Ravel's school.

Speaker 5 No, but I'm a Columbia guy. I'm a Mizzou guy.
It goes Mizzou down to the US.

Speaker 1 So we have Jake, who's like a big J

Speaker 1 journalist. Bubba did half a degree at UMass.
Hank did a quarter of a degree at southern New Hampshire. And Billy is 100% going to drop out.
So I like this. But go ahead.

Speaker 1 What were we going to say about the UMass football season? Last year, they gave up the most points, like by a mile. Yes.
He's this sad, and like they get the shit kicked out of him every single week.

Speaker 1 He's a massive player.

Speaker 1 The school who gave up the second most points was not even close to that meeting. Yes.
Like they give up, on average, about 50 points a game.

Speaker 5 And this is the worst day of his year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is still the the worst day.

Speaker 5 I would say like losing to Yukon by 48 would probably be worse.

Speaker 1 You would think.

Speaker 1 You would think.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yeah, it is funny to put that into perspective and be like, they get the shit kicked out of them so, so bad. And he's like, guys, bad news.
We're not going to lose a billion games.

Speaker 1 They gave up 632 points in 12 games last year. And I want to say second was like in the 400s.

Speaker 1 They were 1-11.

Speaker 1 They won the famous Akron game. Shout out, Jack Mac.
Good pick, dude.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so they, 632, I'm doing the quick math. They gave up 52 points a game.
Fuck.

Speaker 5 What stage of grief is that when you just malign your parents' death?

Speaker 5 That's got to be super depression, right?

Speaker 1 Right, right. So, yeah, so we had that quote.
So that's perspective.

Speaker 7 There is some truth to it, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because think about it.
Yes. You're going to repeat what I just said.

Speaker 7 No, because football is always a constant in football guys' lives. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Whereas everything else can just like, shit can hit the fan, but like you're always like getting the shit kicked out of you on a Saturday or playing football.

Speaker 9 Like you can understand that.

Speaker 7 But like when football gets canceled, you never accounted for that. Football made sense.

Speaker 1 Football was sent to sit down. Football makes sense.

Speaker 5 The only

Speaker 5 thing is life that made sense.

Speaker 5 You can pretend you don't have a family if you coach football.

Speaker 1 In fact, you probably do.

Speaker 5 You can't pretend that there's football. If you have a family.
Right.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah.
Okay, that actually made sense.

Speaker 5 The shoulders of dreams of a hundred souls.

Speaker 1 You got, no, that made sense. I'm giving you.
I've done it. I mean, why are you getting upset?

Speaker 7 Well, my season got canceled, so like this kind of hits close to home.

Speaker 5 Do you wish that your parents had died instead?

Speaker 1 Billy's the real victim here. Yeah.
Let me think about that.

Speaker 5 I think that we should address the big news of the day. Yeah.
And that is the Seahawks undrafted cornerback. Yes.

Speaker 5 Kima Severand.

Speaker 5 He was busted for trying to sneak a girl into the training camp bubble that they've established in Seattle, and he got caught and immediately cut from the team.

Speaker 5 He had her wear Seahawks gear, like a Seahawks hoodie, so that he could pretend that she was one of his teammates. I love it.

Speaker 5 Brought her in, got cut, and now he's just without a job because he was too horny. But he's famous.
Horny Hall of Fame. Yeah.
Him, Rick Petino, Bill O'Reilly, Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barbara Corcoran. Yeah.
Brandon Walker.

Speaker 5 The panda that repopulated the entire population of pandas because he fucked so good.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, he is. The Legion of Poon is what I'm calling this.
There you go. This group of Seahawks cornerbacks.

Speaker 1 He actually

Speaker 1 should bill every football coach in America because they're going to use this. Like this is going to be the first slide that everyone shows on

Speaker 1 the next time they have a meeting. Don't be this guy.

Speaker 5 Or if you're a smart coach, just like get a couple Instagram thoughts, sign them to your 80-man roster, and just have them live inside your own bubble.

Speaker 1 Well, they're letting fucking happen in the NBA bubble now. Thank God.
They're in phase two, I think. So we do have an NBA.
That's phase two?

Speaker 7 I think it is. It's like get your dick wet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, start fucking. So we do have an NBA playoff picture.
It's starting on, well, technically on Saturday night is the play-in game. Right now, as we're taping this, Memphis is up by 10.

Speaker 1 I don't think, you know, Giannis isn't playing because he head-butted Mo Wagner. I think Memphis is going to win.
So it's going to be, and I'm going to say Portland's going to win.

Speaker 1 They're not going to lose. Damien's not going to lose that game.

Speaker 6 Playoff Damian.

Speaker 1 Playoff Damien. Right, exactly.
So it's going to be Memphis versus Portland in that 8-9 game on Saturday night. And then if the nine seed wins, they play against Sunday night.

Speaker 1 But we have our playoff picture. It's the Bucs versus the Magic, sweep.
Raptors versus the Nets, probably sweep.

Speaker 1 Celtics versus Sixers, which I feel like this is the 17th time they've played in the last three playoffs. You know what?

Speaker 5 I'm actually rooting for the Nets because I can't name a single player on the Nets right now, and somehow they haven't been terrible inside this bubble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like just, well, I mean, the line for terrible was the Wizards, and they were just above that.

Speaker 5 They tried their hardest to go over it, but they won their last one by accident.

Speaker 1 And then Heat Pacers for the 4-5 matchup. How are you feeling about your heat?

Speaker 5 I like my heat.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I love your heat.

Speaker 8 I underestimate the heat culture.

Speaker 1 That's right. Ooh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 I always forget that we have a South Florida fan here, except for the Yankees.

Speaker 5 Is Judas Haslam still on the heat? Yeah, they should bring him back every year just for the playoffs. He's on the head.
Just so that you can point out him.

Speaker 1 Andrea Godal is on the heat. He's still here.

Speaker 1 And they also have the combo of Duncan Robinson and Tyler Harrow, which

Speaker 1 is nice.

Speaker 1 Bring them in and out. It's like, here you go.

Speaker 5 Did you see that picture? I think it was like a couple days ago. It went viral.
It was Gordon Hayward rejecting somebody, and the guy's jersey on the back said equality.

Speaker 5 So it just looked like Hayward was like swatting equality. That's pretty good.
The NBA has come up with memes. Their jerseys now are so memeable.

Speaker 1 Every time I see the one that says I'm a man, even though I'm sure it means something personal to the player that's wearing, I always wish their number was 40 underneath it that'd be sweet yes all right so Western Conference Lakers versus the 8-9 matchup Clippers versus the Mavs which is going to be awesome because it's going to be a million points you're saying that there's no chance whatsoever that the Suns get in they need Memphis to lose it sucks Suns versus Blazers would be awesome Suns versus versus Blazers is everything we wanted to root for but maybe we're wrong maybe by the time you're listening this are like hey guess what the grizzlies uh have lost because the grizzlies have been a disappointment ever since they've been in the bubble.

Speaker 1 And the Suns, they should just, they made the Zion rule. Why not just make the Suns are more fun rule? Yeah.

Speaker 5 What are the Suns right now?

Speaker 1 They're like 7-2? No, they're 7-0. 7-0? 7-0 in the bubble.
They will be undefeated in the bubble when they beat the Sunshine.

Speaker 5 They should absolutely make a rule allowing the Suns in.

Speaker 5 Although the Blazers, I mean, they are, I think they are a team that could beat the Lakers first round.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 I said could.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Okay, yes. If Anthony Davis and LeBron both get injured.
Yep.

Speaker 5 They absolutely do. They could.
They could do that.

Speaker 1 Nuggets versus Jazz. They should just let that one be played at high altitude the whole time.
That's the perfect matchup for my high altitude idea.

Speaker 5 They're both used to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just do it. And then Rockets versus Thunder, which would be great.
We got some bad blood.

Speaker 5 If you think the NBA doesn't engineer their schedules in their matchups, Rockets, Thunder, holy shit.

Speaker 1 Harden and Chris Paul.

Speaker 5 How many dicks do you think Chris Paul is going to punch in the first round? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going going to be

Speaker 1 all mad. All mad.
So that's going to be starting on Monday. Very excited for that.

Speaker 1 Hockey playoffs have been incredible. We're taping this before the Blackhawks game.
I'm just going to assume they won one and one series. That's fine.

Speaker 5 Caps are going to win tonight.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 5 On Friday night.

Speaker 5 Tonight, Friday.

Speaker 1 What happened? What happened?

Speaker 1 They were up.

Speaker 5 The ice.

Speaker 1 The ice.

Speaker 5 It's bad ice in Toronto. Tom Wilson beat the shit out of somebody because he hit Nick Baxter and probably broke his rib.
The dreaded upper body injury right now is what he's dealing with.

Speaker 5 Seems like the caps deal with this in the first round every time in the playoffs. But guess what? We've been down 1-0 before.
We've been down 2-0 before. We usually lose, but we've won.
Been there.

Speaker 1 Been there, done that. And then the big news of the day is we got a new rich friend.
George Kittle.

Speaker 1 Greg Kittle, our good friend, signs a $75 million contract with San Francisco 49ers, biggest contract in tight end history.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy for him because we were actually talking about this last week.

Speaker 1 It's so crazy to think that George Kittle, because he was a fifth-round draft pick, he is arguably the best tight end in the game.

Speaker 1 You could obviously make the argument that now that Gronk is back or Travis Kelsey, I'm going to say he's the best tight end in the game.

Speaker 1 He's the best tight end in the game, and he has played in the NFL for three years, and he has made less than $2 million total.

Speaker 5 That's insane.

Speaker 1 So the fact that he, you know, they were able to figure out this deal, he gets paid for what he deserved. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's awesome because I can't imagine the stress of being that good and like not capitalizing on it.

Speaker 5 And also shout out to Greg Kittle because he went out of his way to let us get credit for it.

Speaker 1 Last night,

Speaker 5 he told Kyle Shanahan and in Rapaport that he wanted to wait for the news to be broken by part of my take. Yes.
So if you saw right after PMT tweeted it out, Rapaport tweeted his tweet out.

Speaker 5 And then afterwards, shout out to Schefter. Today was a banner day for Adam Schefter and being late on contracts, but adding a little piece of information that nobody asked for.

Speaker 5 So today, right after the Kittle news broke, Adam Schefter tweeted out and said he now makes more money than Hunter Henry, which is the big question everybody was asking.

Speaker 5 And then later on, after he missed out on the Kelsey news, he tweeted out just a picture of Travis Kelsey and said, big day, tight ends getting paid. Travis Kelsey just got a contract.

Speaker 5 So he put a nice job shift. He put a little, yeah, a little Getty Images edition onto the news.

Speaker 1 Jesus. So yeah, shout out our guy,

Speaker 1 Greg. Very excited for him.
Much deserved. And it's got to feel awesome.
I told him he's got to live stream signing it and like just go through the emotions. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You think he's going to cry? Oh, yeah. He's going to tap the Joker's signature and then go absolutely ape shit off.

Speaker 1 Do you think his dad's going to write him like a mini novel before he signs the contract?

Speaker 5 I think so.

Speaker 1 That would be pretty cool. Maybe we can actually get

Speaker 1 Papa Kittle to like, you know, now that we, now there's some money floating around, maybe he can actually like get a binding for the for the novels or like put a proper cover on it. Let's get this up.

Speaker 1 Let's stop using like 14 pages stapled together like he's Billy football. You should get it going.

Speaker 5 You should get a publishing deal. Somebody should sign George Kittle's dad.
Have him motivate America.

Speaker 1 We will sign him. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 For nothing. Write us a letter, George Kittle's dad, before every podcast that we do.
Yes. Tell us to not be afraid to be great today.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's pretty much everything that's going on. We have Roast coming up.
We also have Billy's list. We want to do Firefest?

Speaker 5 Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 8 All right, let's do it. Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 1 Let's have everyone put in their Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Let's start with Bubba. Pretty simple.
It's just that every weekend sucks now because there's nowhere to go. And so then there's pretty much just nothing to look forward to ever.
Wow. So that's heavy.

Speaker 5 That is heavy, Bubba.

Speaker 1 i mean last last weekend i realized it like friday i went to a new pizza place and i was like super excited about it and then that was at like eight o'clock on friday can i give you a tip yeah donuts on saturday morning true every saturday morning i did it i actually going and getting the donuts and then eating the donuts is the greatest 45 minutes of my week.

Speaker 1 The deli that I go to, they do like a special on Saturday, and I look forward to that. Yes.
I get the same sandwich every single Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a small guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, small things.

Speaker 5 Just pick a movie every weekend to watch on Saturday night, and then you have that to look forward to all week. It doesn't matter if it sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just the little things.

Speaker 5 AMC is opening back up.

Speaker 1 Did you see that?

Speaker 5 AMC theaters are trying to open up nationwide, and they're going to be charging like 15 cents to get in.

Speaker 5 That's how much it costs to die.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I don't think I'm going to go to a movie. I've seen Outbreak too many times.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 That's where it all starts in a movie theater.

Speaker 1 This, it would be great. I do like going to the movies because it feels like an event, but it would be nice if this just changes everything where every movie you can buy right away.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it'd be wonderful. Like, fuck going to a movie.
You're going to charge me like a quarter to buy an unregistered African monkey right now. Like, I've seen this movie before.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to be going to your movie theater. Right.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're Firefest.

Speaker 8 So, obviously, the whole ankle thing, but we're going to get past that. Really, any thoughts?

Speaker 1 No comment. And

Speaker 7 I'm here i'm i'm i'm just gonna ignore him jay can i give you just like let me give you a little bit of ammo yeah to to clap back at billy yeah billy spends all his time playing video games yeah he's a farm and he's a fart he's a video you are a nerd if i didn't play video games i'd be like out playing sports but i can't i legit can't have any physical contact with anybody because of this because you're a nerd the body craves contact you're gonna turn you know what i look forward to playing video games because i get a rush because it's like skirt there's a split second where nerd alert kills somebody in a video game Nerd alert.

Speaker 1 You can talk to them. Yep.

Speaker 10 And I just scream profanity at them. Everything you're describing is

Speaker 5 things that a nerd would do.

Speaker 9 No, it's the closest thing to trash talking.

Speaker 1 Can I read this tweet? It says, dudes, I need help. I don't know what to build now that Bruin is nerfed.
I saw that and I was like, nerd, nerd.

Speaker 1 You're a nerfed nerd. And you're a nerfed nerd.
You're playing tennis. Yeah, right.
Kiddles.

Speaker 5 Tennis. Jake's out there building muscle, making games.

Speaker 1 Hey, guess what? You can play tennis. You said you can't play sports.
You can play tennis. Dude, it's tennis.
Golf? Billy, you wear your fucking tennis whites, your tidy whitey bomb fucking thing.

Speaker 1 If I was, I wouldn't have killed my ankle. I'm killed me too.
Yeah, I'm the bad boy at tennis.

Speaker 1 Bad boy at Deady. I'm like Andre Agassiz, bitch.

Speaker 1 The Didy Whitey.

Speaker 5 Married Stephanie Gross.

Speaker 1 You did rackets and shit. Dated Bray Shield.
Oh, I know, rackets.

Speaker 5 Sports.

Speaker 1 Rackets. Billy, here's a little racket bag.

Speaker 1 Here's where I draw the line.

Speaker 5 Jake, contact injury on his ankle. He injured himself playing sports.

Speaker 5 That's a non- When was the last time you got injured playing video games.

Speaker 1 That's technically a non-contact.

Speaker 5 He made contact with the court.

Speaker 1 He literally, he got, he tripped on a

Speaker 1 flat surface. It hurt him.

Speaker 5 Achieving greatness by beating me and Hank at the same time.

Speaker 1 Let's get back on track. Okay.
Jake, your fire fest.

Speaker 8 My fire fest, obviously, the whole ankle thing. I'm here to say I will still be participating in Monday stool streams against Hank.
Third and final match.

Speaker 1 You're going to play ping pong against him? I am playing.

Speaker 1 I'm not backing down. I'm not backing down.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Will he be coming down? He's got nothing on Jake Marshall.

Speaker 5 Hank's coming off of vacation. He's going to be fat and happy and tan.

Speaker 1 Beat the shit out of him, Jake Marshall. Tune in.

Speaker 8 So, two weeks ago, I was taking all my shirts out of the office to take them to the dry cleaners,

Speaker 8 and I thought there would be one right next door, right under this building. It was closed.
Find another one, two walks down. It was closed.

Speaker 8 I eventually went to nine dry cleaners that were all closed. I guess they closed early at like three o'clock, and I just found myself back in my apartment.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 it was just

Speaker 5 carrying like a big-ass bag of stuff.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I was just carrying four dress shirts for the broadcast.

Speaker 1 Why are you looking at me, Billy?

Speaker 7 It's Jake's Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Why are you looking at me? Because he needs to steal the spotlight.

Speaker 1 What the fuck does that mean?

Speaker 1 Anytime I get

Speaker 1 this fever.

Speaker 1 Billy's got to try to take it over. Legitimately, I have zero, like

Speaker 1 anyway. Uh-huh.
Billy, why don't you do that? That was a good Fire Fest, Jake.

Speaker 5 Billy, why don't you do your Fire Fest? You know what the difference between you and us is, Jake? You had four different dress shirts and you took them to get them dry cleaned.

Speaker 5 I've had one dress shirt that I've kept at the office for five years, and I haven't like I put it on when I have to do something on camera that requires a colored shirt, and I just like throw it back in the podcast.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 every time PFT puts on a collar or buttons, I'm just like, who died?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Big Cat looks at me style.

Speaker 1 But like, mentally, for the podcast, you feel clean and it helps your confidence

Speaker 1 on the mic.

Speaker 5 I always wear, yeah, I always wear a clean shirt when I'm podcasting. That's rule number one.

Speaker 1 Exactly. All right, Billy.

Speaker 7 So I've been

Speaker 7 trying a lot of different pre-workouts lately. And yesterday,

Speaker 7 PFT and Big Cat kindly let me go home a little early. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why don't you tell the whole story?

Speaker 7 So I what I just asked you when you asked me.

Speaker 5 At what time? It was three o'clock. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 No. I left at three.
No, but you asked at two. You asked at the end of the day,

Speaker 1 you gave me the puppy eyes. Being like...

Speaker 5 You asked at two, and I said, Billy,

Speaker 1 it was a real tough day.

Speaker 1 I said, I got there at nine. Yeah, but that was because you fucked up and you you thought you had to be there at nine.
No, I got there.

Speaker 1 You came in at nine and you're like,

Speaker 1 I was like, Billy, why are you here so early? He's like, don't we have an interview in 20 minutes? And he's like, nope, it's in an hour. And you're like, shit.

Speaker 5 Billy got here at nine, came up with questions for somebody that we weren't interviewing, and then asked at two o'clock,

Speaker 5 do you guys need me for the rest of the day? And I said, Billy, why don't you tell me what you plan on doing for the rest of your day?

Speaker 5 And your answer was, well, I was going to take some pre-workout and play Call of Duty.

Speaker 1 No, I was going to work out and then play Call of Duty. So

Speaker 7 that's the only thing I do. Like, because you can't do anything else.
Anyway, so I tried this new pre-workout and I always take pre-workout right before I get home.

Speaker 7 Right before I start going home because then it kicks in when I get home so I can work out. Anyway, this shit hit me when I was in the middle of traffic.

Speaker 7 Oh, and it was kind of like I started getting shitty.

Speaker 1 What a nerd.

Speaker 1 That's not even funny.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 That was funny.

Speaker 1 That was funny.

Speaker 1 Dude, you called rackets nerdy.

Speaker 1 Traffic.

Speaker 5 I bet you were were buckled up, pussy.

Speaker 1 I was fucking. Oh, I was fucking.
Well, you got your anti-lock pressure. Brakes on? No, I almost ripped my fucking steering wheel off because I was just like, oh, and then

Speaker 1 it wore off by the time I got home.

Speaker 7 But I still worked out. And then

Speaker 7 I was like playing Call of Duty.

Speaker 5 I got a bunch of kills. That's cool.

Speaker 1 Nice. That's tough.

Speaker 7 But I almost also shit myself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 5 Then a woman looked at me and I was like, what? I just shit myself. And she was like, you're hot.
And I was like, okay, cool. And then I went to phase two with her.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 50 what do you got uh my fire fast of the week is the Washington football team formerly known as the R-Words might be up for sale and I'm three billion dollars short oh damn so the minority owners are pressuring Dan Snyder to sell the team which has been something that's been going on for the last two months there are reports out now that Snyder is now hiring an investigator firm to look into whoever leaked the fake reports about all the bad stuff like the Epstein type stuff right to a company in in India it turns out that one of his former employees may be linked to one of the minority owners of the team so this is like Shakespearean stuff if William Shakespeare cared about a football team that never had more than six wins and it's getting really nasty and Snyder is closer than he's ever been to selling the team I need to figure out a way to raise three billion dollars okay we could do it what about sperm banks how much does it cost for a sperm per I charge by the sperm not per sperm

Speaker 1 one sperm yeah I charge by the sperm sperm singular yeah What is it? Scent? I don't know.

Speaker 5 I just need some get-rich quick schemes. That's all I need.

Speaker 1 Alright, well, there's no reason to have you here, Billy, if you can't tell us the price of a sperm.

Speaker 12 One acorn.

Speaker 1 Haven't you done the sperm thing?

Speaker 7 What? Donate a sperm? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No. Oh, just plasma? You did white blood cells.
White blood cells. Okay, all right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like those are... I feel like if you start giving your plasma and blood constantly for money, you're going to eventually just give sperm.

Speaker 5 Yeah, white blood cells and sperm are very similar. You just look at the cover of Metallica's load album, and they're all together right there, mixed together.
It's one healthy batch.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're gonna get you three billion dollars.

Speaker 5 Three billion dollars. Any good ideas?

Speaker 1 Anyone?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 5 What are you guys? What are we doing?

Speaker 5 I can't.

Speaker 1 I gotta

Speaker 1 bring back college football

Speaker 5 and be the guy who did it. If I got

Speaker 5 all I'd need to do is convince everybody in China to give me $1.50.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we spent like an entire day trying to figure out how to get 50,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah. New asking price.

Speaker 5 New asking price for Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 You need $3 billion.

Speaker 1 You need to break it down a little bit smaller. We got to do baby steps.

Speaker 7 You know what?

Speaker 7 $4 chart.

Speaker 5 I've got an offer right now. I just checked my email.
$4 billion is what I'm being offered for Vanny Woodhead. I'll let it go for $3 just because I'm being nice.

Speaker 5 I want to give an award-winning listener a discount. So again, 25% off.
Use promo code PFT by the Redskins.

Speaker 7 Jump in front of Jeff Bezos' car while he's driving.

Speaker 1 Now that's a good idea. That's a good idea, Billy.
Good idea.

Speaker 5 Or get a cyber truck, die in it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yep.
Shoe Elon Musk. Take out a big insurance.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because then Leroy gets the team. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, I got it.

Speaker 5 Billy, why don't you

Speaker 5 get in the cyber truck? You get a cyber truck.

Speaker 5 No, I'm not killing Leroy. You get in a cyber truck.
You drive in front of Jeff Bezos. So now Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, and you add me to your will.

Speaker 1 As your heir. Why?

Speaker 10 We get a fake body double.

Speaker 1 Nerd, you won't even die?

Speaker 1 I mean, that is. That's like the ultimate nerd thing.
But it's like, no, I have to wear my belt.

Speaker 5 I have to wear my seatbelt.

Speaker 1 No, you know what?

Speaker 6 We do that,

Speaker 7 get more than three billion, then use $1 billion to play college football.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm down with that. All right, we got to get going.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 No time. All right.
All right. My fire fest of the week is with obviously everyone heard the big news.
We had Deion Sanders on on Wednesday. He's now a co-worker.

Speaker 1 I was reminded on Wednesday morning that

Speaker 1 before my son was being born,

Speaker 1 going through names, I was pushing for Deion. And it just brought up a lot of bad memories because Deion Katz is like the most electric name ever.

Speaker 5 That's also a good name for a cartoon cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I just was, I went back down the spiral of like, damn, my son's name is not Deion.
So you know what?

Speaker 5 Like the name Deion, we talk a lot about quarterback names, and you can just see somebody and you're like, that name is a quarterback. Like Johnny Manzilla.

Speaker 1 John Parker Wilson.

Speaker 5 John Parker Wilson, John David Booty, all these hypothetical names, great quarterback names. Deion Katz, you tell me that you're not starting the tailback? Yeah.
Deion Katz is getting

Speaker 5 30 touches.

Speaker 1 I'll bring back Doug's just so that I can name every player Deion Katz.

Speaker 5 You can also just always add a middle name. Yeah.
Like no one says you have to change a middle name, but you can add a second.

Speaker 1 Deion Neon Katz. Yeah.
Done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's my Fire Fest. All right, let's get to Mike Golick.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Mike Gullick.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, Radio Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 Is that weird to say Radio Hall of Fame?

Speaker 13 Yeah, it's wild because I've been in two of those Hall of Fames. And along with playing football, I wrestled and I ended up in a wrestling Hall of Fame, but only as a distinguished American.

Speaker 13 So the only Hall of Fame I'm in for actually playing a sport is my high school. So, you know, push, come to shove.
I'd like to be in the Hall of Fame for actually playing a sport, but it's cool, man.

Speaker 13 I dig it.

Speaker 1 You're in the Radio Hall of Fame. It is Mike Golick, legend of the game.

Speaker 1 Great to have you on. So it's been, what, a week and a half now since,

Speaker 1 you know, you're off radio.

Speaker 1 The first question I think all of America wants to know, have you been able to adjust your sleep or are you still waking up at four in the morning and being like, fuck, this sucks?

Speaker 13 Oh, I mean, I know. I mean, I don't know when I'm going to get out of that mode.
I mean, the one thing I have done is I've turned off the 4.15 alarm.

Speaker 13 I had before the 22 years at ESPN, I lived in Arizona while I was doing NFL. It was called NFL Tonight then, not NFL Live.
And I was calling college games for ESPN.

Speaker 13 I was doing local radio in Phoenix for three years during, doing the morning show. So for actually 25 years, I've been getting up at 4.15.

Speaker 13 So now I turn the alarm off, but no, it's going to be a while. I still kind of stir and look at the clock at 4:15, but now I can just roll over and go back to sleep.

Speaker 5 That must have been kind of a bittersweet moment for you, like the ceremonial change of the alarm clock. You know, you're doing that for what, was it 20 years every morning? Yeah,

Speaker 13 total of 25 years. And yeah, I mean, listen, it to me, it's more bitter than sweet because I still want to be doing morning radio.
I didn't want it to end.

Speaker 13 So I would much rather still be giving up at 4:15. I love doing it.
I love being involved in it. I hope to do it again, you know, at some point.
So

Speaker 13 it

Speaker 13 over the over time, the sweetness and the memories, and I've had a lot of great memories, obviously, are going to be there, but I'd still much rather be doing the show.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, that one clip that kind of went viral a week ago, where it was your son, Gojo, telling you, like, hey, you were always a dad first.

Speaker 5 You were, you know, obviously like a great mentor to me. I got to work with my dad.
I think we all watched that. We all like teared up a little bit.
That was a really, really nice way to end the show.

Speaker 5 Was that a surprise to you? Did you know it was going to get mushy like that?

Speaker 13 No, no. In fact, you know, the whole last show, I knew that I was going to have my family on for the last hour.
Trey was nice enough to, I said, Trey, the last hour I'd like to have my family on.

Speaker 13 He said, I will step aside. But Herm Edwards had contacted us and said he wanted to come on to say goodbye to Trey.
They're very good friends.

Speaker 13 And Herm could only, you know, him being out on the West Coast out in Arizona, he could only do it at 9:30 our time. So nine o'clock rolled around.
It was just me and my family.

Speaker 13 And 9:30, Trey Trey came back in and

Speaker 13 Herm came on. And then the last eight minutes, the last segment was just me and my family again.

Speaker 13 And I had planned, and I'm glad I did it at nine o'clock, talked about the listeners over the years and growing a bond with them and a relationship and stuff, because I planned on kind of doing that again at the end at the last few minutes.

Speaker 13 And then all of a sudden, Mike started going, and I was like, oh, shit. I'm like, man, I almost made it through this thing.
You know, I was wondering if I was going to get emotional.

Speaker 13 I knew my wife was going to be balling the whole time anyway. And then Mike, no, I had no idea.

Speaker 13 I guess he told the rest of the family to make sure he had the last couple of minutes so he could do that. I did not know that was coming.
And boy,

Speaker 13 that hit like a ton of bricks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I want to get, you just mentioned you want to keep,

Speaker 1 you would love to still be on radio. And I want to get back to that.
But before I do that, just to follow up on this,

Speaker 1 have you had the ability to take a step back and kind of soak it all in that you mean a lot to people and you have been part of their lives for two decades plus?

Speaker 1 Because I think that's one thing, and our careers are a lot, you know, we've been doing it for a lot less time than you, but that's one thing that we all kind of fail at is to take a step back and be like, oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 These a lot of people out there truly have a relationship with us, and it's fun to sometimes recognize that and kind of soak it all in. Have you been able to do that?

Speaker 13 I have, and I really, because of social media, one of the biggest and having done this for over two decades, hell, when I first started, we were taking faxes from listeners.

Speaker 13 You know, millennials are going, what the hell is that? You know, the fax paper would fall behind the machine and roll up because it would never come out the right way. I mean, that's how it was.

Speaker 13 Now, with social media, you get that immediate kind of response. So I was overwhelmed and humbled, not for the people saying, hey, you know, they should meet and in that show.

Speaker 13 Not for that. It was for, I feel like I knew you.
I feel like I knew your family. I feel like we were friends.
If I saw you in a restaurant or an airport,

Speaker 13 I knew I could come up to you and say hi because it felt like we had a relationship. That to me was one of the more cool things.

Speaker 13 And one of the things in all honesty that I wanted, because as you guys know, when you do this, you need to give yourself to everybody.

Speaker 13 You need to, as far as everybody personally wants to go, open yourselves up and let people know you.

Speaker 13 Anybody can turn on a show and just have someone throw, you know, sports information at them and throw, you know, stats at them and shit. But let them get to know you, you know, and let them in.

Speaker 13 The good and the bad. You know, Mike was nine, Jake was eight, Sydney was five when I started.
radio at ESPN. And I told them early on, listen, our lives are going to be out there, guys.

Speaker 13 The good and the bad. We're just going to let it be out there.
And by the time, you know, ESPN said I was done with this, Mike's 30, Jake's 29, Sidney's 25.

Speaker 13 So there was a lot of life in there that we opened up to everybody. And to hear their feedback and saying how much they enjoyed that,

Speaker 13 that was very touching.

Speaker 1 So a quick follow-up on that. And I'm curious because, you know, when you started, you just said, you know, your kids were nine, seven, and five.

Speaker 1 And it also was a different time because the internet wasn't what it is today. Right.
you know, my son's one years old.

Speaker 1 I've kind of made the conscious decision that I'm not going to be just putting him online because I don't want him to one day wake up and be like, oh, dad's just been blasting me on Instagram,

Speaker 1 you know, crying when I'm two years old.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, he doesn't, he hasn't consented to that. Like, I don't want, I want to give him a normal life.

Speaker 1 Do you think if you were, if we could go back 20 years, but it's 2020, so you're starting your career right now, would you do the same thing? Would you be as open of a book?

Speaker 1 Or would you be like, maybe the internet's a little bit of a darker, scarier place these days?

Speaker 13 It certainly would make me think more because I know, especially for my wife, you know, when my boys were playing at Notre Dame and, you know, the internet can be tough on,

Speaker 13 you know, athletes, on anybody, on family. And some of the stuff she heard about the kids and stuff that, you know, kids blow off.
They don't worry about it, but it's tough on a parent.

Speaker 13 I want to sit here and say I probably would have done it the same way, but it's very difficult for me to say that because you're right now, again my youngest at that point was five still not an adult so it's not like hey sydney can i have your consent to do this i was the parent if i wanted to do it right i was going to do it so i get what you're saying um i would like to say i would have done it but that's a very difficult one to answer because There is no doubt the climate is completely a 180 from it was when I started this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's what the pugs are for.

Speaker 5 That's how you bring like your family to the internet.

Speaker 1 And and everybody loves a good pug you never ever ever lose with dogs yeah never they could do any they could sit there they sit there on camera and lick themselves and nobody will care i mean it's a dog so it's cool it's true and i i do think that you know 20 years ago you you're able to share what you want to share and keep away like now it's kind of you're it's kind of all or nothing and it's so 24 7 that it's just and the internet is forever kind of thing that it just feels different

Speaker 13 the the biggest difference i guess the the way i would say it is you can't partially open the door right you know you you and i decided my wife and i decided we were going to open the door but again so i started it here in phoenix when the kids were even younger that was 1995 you know so when i started espn in 98 as we said it's a different time we just decided to open the door and let our family in but yo right now you you can't you can't partially do it because you partially do it the internet knows how to how to rip the door open right you know right and really kind of kind of get everything out there.

Speaker 13 So it's definitely different now. I can absolutely see your point for sure.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Can we clean something up real quick here? Just so that we know for posterity, Mike and Mike.

Speaker 5 So I tweeted this at you when it was announced that you were moving on, but you were a big part of my life growing up.

Speaker 5 And not just like going through high school, but college and some jobs that I had afterwards where I think a lot of people can relate where maybe they have a bad day or they're not looking forward to going to work for whatever reason.

Speaker 5 And even if it's just like five, ten ten minutes in the car on the way to work, if you can make somebody's day like 2% better, that's a small thing, but it's actually a big thing.

Speaker 5 You know, it adds up. If you can just make, because from the start of the day, you might be in a slightly better mood.
That might change something that happens later on that day.

Speaker 5 You might be nicer to somebody, and then that stuff keeps going forward. So I just want to say thank you because

Speaker 5 it didn't really occur to me as, you know, as you're in the moment. But looking back on it, for me, it's like that's a big thing that adds up.
And yeah, so I just want to say thank you for that.

Speaker 5 It's very important to me that I had something like that that could, you know, put a bright spot in a day,

Speaker 13 you know, and I appreciate that. And I appreciate, you know, both you guys, you know, you know, tweeting about it and everything when it ended.

Speaker 13 That was, it's a very cool thing to hear from your peers. And I respect the hell out of you guys and what you're doing.

Speaker 13 So to hear from people in the business as well as listeners and viewers was a cool thing. But to that point,

Speaker 13 I think that was probably some of the best stuff I heard from people was

Speaker 13 I remember, obviously, one thing was it made me feel real old with some of the stories. When I was in grade school, my parents would, or my dad would drive me to work.

Speaker 13 That was our time together, listening to you talk about sports. I had a kid text or tweet me and say, I listened to you when I was delivering papers when I was 14.

Speaker 13 I was listening to you when I was getting up for uh morning football workouts in high school. I listened to you when I was getting up for to go to class in college.

Speaker 13 I listened to you when I was deployed, you know, on my first, you know, going to duty. And I'm like, oh my God.
I mean, A, I'm old, but B, I mean, that was it to me.

Speaker 13 That was, I was never a hot take guy. If I had a strong opinion there, and there's some things that push my buttons, I would say it, but I wasn't a hot taking guy.
I wasn't a yelling guy.

Speaker 13 I was going to tell you of my experiences as a pro athlete, my experience as a father, whether it was sports or outside of sports.

Speaker 13 And I just kind of wanted to talk talk with people not at people and i think that's what i felt best about in hearing a lot of the responses is people felt like when they got up in the morning they turned us on when we were on espn2 and just went about their morning like they were listening to us on the radio and went about their day and then when they went into the car they turned us on the radio it was part of their morning habit it was just like turning on a friend and just hearing maybe laugh just like you said maybe laughing a little bit you know maybe getting a little information getting maybe getting a little insight into something And that was it.

Speaker 13 Just take a little bit.

Speaker 13 Again, I wasn't there to blow your mind. I was just there to kind of guide you until your morning got going wherever it was supposed to get going.

Speaker 13 And I was fortunate enough to do it for a couple of decades.

Speaker 5 So have we established whether or not you were the first Mike or the second Mike on the logo?

Speaker 13 Well, I mean, listen,

Speaker 13 this is the way I'll put it.

Speaker 13 Actually, morning radio at ESPN didn't start with Mike and Mike. It started with me and Tony Bruno.
We were the first ones to start morning radio in 1998.

Speaker 13 And then he left the next year or right before 2000, like October of 99. And then we were searching for a new partner.
And it was decided on Greenie right at the beginning of 2000.

Speaker 13 So I was the first Mike on the show before it became Mike and Mike. So I guess I think if you write that down into law, that would mean I'd be the first Mike, right?

Speaker 13 I mean, would you guys agree with that?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 let it be written. Let it be known.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there you go.

Speaker 1 How is your relationship with Greenie these days? Because obviously there was a lot of stuff written when Mike and Mike ended. And, you know, people are saying, oh, they weren't talking.

Speaker 1 I, you know, I never know what's truth and what's fiction. But how, like, where do you guys stand now?

Speaker 13 Well, you know what? It did not end well. That's pretty much been public.
I was surprised it ended

Speaker 13 for the guy that was running ESPN at that time who ended it, John Skipper. And Greene wanted to go do his own thing.

Speaker 13 So I was surprised it ended. And obviously, it's been pretty documented.
I didn't like like the way it ended

Speaker 13 and how it went about. I would say Green and I, and we've seen each other since, but, you know, he does the morning show with Get Up and I do, you know, was doing the morning show.

Speaker 13 So we would have really no interaction in the morning. We always lived far away from one another.
And outside of even Mike and Mike, we never really hung out.

Speaker 13 His kids weren't even born when we started the show. So we never really had a lot in common.
And I think that's one of the things that helped make Mike and Mike work a little bit was

Speaker 13 we were so different. So quite honestly, the way it ended,

Speaker 13 we see each other, we've seen each other at Super Bowls, we're cordial, but that's pretty much it.

Speaker 13 In all honesty, there really isn't much of a relationship anymore. It's a shame, but

Speaker 13 that's just the way it goes sometimes. And that's just where it is now.
Who knows what the future holds, but right now that's pretty much where it is.

Speaker 1 I respect your approach to all this because

Speaker 1 this time around as well, you said that you were kind of blindsided and you found out on Twitter, right? Like that the show was ending.

Speaker 1 Is there a part of you that holds a little bit of resentment where you're like, you know, I put in years and years and years of this company, and

Speaker 1 Greene kind of that ended not well. And Greene went and got his big set in New York City.

Speaker 1 And then this, this iteration, you find out on Twitter, is there a part of you that has resentment or are you like, listen, I'm blessed. I have bigger things.
My life is pretty damn good.

Speaker 13 Well, I mean, listen,

Speaker 13 I can be very focused on that, or you can have a lot of emotions. And I mean, I'm human.
So you do it for this long. And

Speaker 13 I guess it's wrong to expect. Expect is the wrong word.

Speaker 13 There were thoughts, there had been talks that they weren't sure what they were going to do with the morning show.

Speaker 13 And I've always been for the 20 years there and actually my whole life, I've been a say it to my face guy. Let me know behind closed doors, whatever.
I'm not a locker room talker.

Speaker 13 Tell me what's going on. And the thought was, well, we're not sure what we're going to do.
And I'm like, well, if you're sure I'm not going to be back and you were looking somewhere, just tell me.

Speaker 13 And they said, well, you know, we're not sure what we're going to do right now.

Speaker 13 And it was basically one of the media guys writing an article that basically had said, you know, it's going to be a different show. And I was just like, my God, I mean, just let me know.

Speaker 13 I've had some of the toughest coaches in the world tell me I suck on film. You're not going to hurt my feelings.
You know what? I may not like what you hear, what I hear, but I mean, just tell me.

Speaker 13 So, yes, I did not, that did not go well. The P, and in all honesty, the people that were involved in that decision, when I finally did talk to them, I let them know how I felt.

Speaker 13 And I've always been a guy that was going to do that. And I didn't talk about that to the media or anything.
I said, I'll handle it the way I want to handle it.

Speaker 13 But then as far as am I bidder, I'm a little bummed it ended that way. But then, but then

Speaker 13 the reality of it is I was cut twice. in the NFL.
I was cut by the Houston Oilers and then I was cut my last team, the Miami Dolphins. And I didn't agree with me being cut both times.

Speaker 13 And I told the coach that, but you know what? It didn't matter.

Speaker 13 They didn't care what I had to say. That's what they wanted to do.
So that's the way I look at it. While I wish it would have ended differently, we know it all ends at some point.

Speaker 13 So it ended this way. I wasn't overly happy about it, but I couldn't control that.
So I looked at it that way.

Speaker 13 You know, the ESPN, you know, brass decided that they wanted to cut me from the morning show. I didn't agree with it.
I told them I didn't agree with it.

Speaker 13 I told them I think it's the wrong move, but it doesn't matter what I think. It didn't matter that I said that.
They were like the coach and they said it's going to be over.

Speaker 13 So, you know, you can't sit there and, you know, kick rocks and keep your head down. It's like, all right, well, you know, I know I'm not done in this business.
I'm going to keep going.

Speaker 13 And I'm under contract with ESPN until the end of the year. So I actually, you know, it's weird.
You know, a lot of people are like, man, just sit there and take their money.

Speaker 13 And, you know, that's the way it works. It's just reality.
I get paid until the end of the year, whether I sit on my ass or what. But I didn't want to do that.
I'm like, I want to do something.

Speaker 13 You know, I still want to sit there. So I actually went to them and I said, let me call college games again.

Speaker 13 That's what I first did when I got out of the NFL is I called college games before I even started doing studio shows or radio. So and they were like, okay, you know, we'll, you can, you do that.

Speaker 1 Now we don't even know, obviously, we're going through the whole college football thing.

Speaker 13 So we'll see how that plays out. And then at the end of the year, we'll see where it goes.
But yeah, I don't plan on retiring, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 I respect respect it, though. I mean, it's a classy thing, and I think

Speaker 1 it's kind of rare today because there's, you know, like we go back to the internet, the internet is full of drama, and

Speaker 1 I respect the hell out of doing it like you're doing it and face to face and not spilling tea everywhere and telling everyone, you know, this is how I feel and not hiding that.

Speaker 13 You know, and it's not.

Speaker 13 It's the way I was brought up, quite honestly. I'm just kind of doing what my parents kind of taught me.
And in all honesty, it just, I just do it because that's the way I learned to do it.

Speaker 13 And I hope my kids do it that way as well. And I've already seen cases where they do,

Speaker 13 you know, where, again, listen, we're all grownups here. I mean, we can take criticism.
That's one of the things sometimes is like

Speaker 13 that they don't, people don't think you can take criticism. Just let's be upfront, man.
You know, we don't always have to agree on everything, but let's just know where you stand.

Speaker 13 I've always said that about a coach. Just tell me where I stand.

Speaker 13 I may not like where you think I stand, but at least then I know where I stand and I know what I have to work on if I'm going to continue to be on your team, whatever team that is in sports or in life.

Speaker 13 So it's the way I was raised and it's the way I try and raise my kids as well.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And with the relationship that you had with Green, he was 17, 18 years, I believe, on the air together.

Speaker 5 You know, that's a long time. That's a relationship.
That's longer than most marriages last at that point.

Speaker 5 So I was wondering if you had any advice for us, because we have a similar dynamic going on where I'm an athlete. I work with a big J journalist.

Speaker 5 And so sometimes, you know, we butt heads over that, over who's the nerd, who's the jock. Do you have any advice for us about how to keep our relationship fresh over 17, 18 years?

Speaker 13 Well, you know what?

Speaker 13 For Green and I, what we always did, and it's so weird because you do talk about it like a couple. It's like, it's like me and my wife.
We never, we never go to bed angry.

Speaker 13 If something happens during that day, you just square it out before your head hits the pillow. And for Greeny and I, you know, we certainly obviously talked as the show was getting going.

Speaker 13 And, you know, he was open to bringing his family in it. We knew we didn't want to be kind of a blue type of a morning show.

Speaker 13 We weren't going to do that. Disney probably wouldn't have really liked that anyway.
But we didn't want to go down that road.

Speaker 13 So basically, you know, for Greeny and I, it was just.

Speaker 13 Don't take things personal with one another, you know, for the run that we had. The ending's a different thing.
That was the end of the show.

Speaker 13 But as far as what you're talking about is, as far as partners in the show, we disagreed plenty, you know, on air and on the show, but we never took it personal with each other.

Speaker 13 So it's not like ever after a show where we disagreed on something that we went home that day mad at one another.

Speaker 13 We realized it was a show and it was our opinions and we respected each other's opinions because we did come at it from two different sides, the side of an athlete and the side of a journalist.

Speaker 13 So there was some disagreement in the way we looked at things, but I think that really helped the show.

Speaker 13 But that's what I would say to anybody, you know, starting out in this or going on like you guys are going is just

Speaker 13 make sure that you know where your line is between everybody so you don't cross anything personal on air that nobody wants.

Speaker 13 Like if you don't want, you know, your kid involved on air, the other person, don't talk about your kid on air. You know, you have those kind of things set.

Speaker 13 And just understand there's going to be differences. And like any good couple, man, when your head hits a pillow at night, don't go to bed angry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, usually PFT scratches my back at night. I tickle that.
See, there you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There you go.

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Speaker 1 Since you, it's been a week and a half, like we said, I assume that you have a lot of thoughts on what's happened this past week in college football As a guy who played college football, your brothers played college football, your son played college, your son's played college football.

Speaker 1 Where do you stand on the Big Ten canceling their season, the Pac-12 canceling their season? If Mike Jr. was still at Notre Dame right now, would you be like, we got to play this season?

Speaker 1 Or would you say, hey, let's listen to the president and the experts and, you know, shut it all down?

Speaker 13 Well, as a parent, my only role would be what I, because these players don't have a union to help them. Right.

Speaker 13 So, a lot of the players, you know, they have their parents to help decide what they want to do.

Speaker 13 I would have sent both Mike and Jake to Notre Dame. I'd have said,

Speaker 13 go there, follow their guidelines. And if they cancel the season, there's nothing I can do about that.
I don't have a say in it.

Speaker 13 Neither do would Mike or Jake, or neither do these players have a say in it. But I would send them.
Yes, I would say, go and follow the protocols, follow the procedures.

Speaker 13 You know, again, trying to tell an 18 to year old, be smart on campus, you know, that's difficult to do. But I credit those schools that have had a lot of testing and very few positive tests.

Speaker 13 But in all honesty, they could be in the bubble right now, much like you see the NBA and WNBA and MLS and NHL in a bubble.

Speaker 13 That's kind of where the colleges were when the athletes went back on campus to work out. They were in the athletic bubble, but now that's going to change if students are allowed on campus.

Speaker 13 All of a sudden, you're adding, you know, thousands of students. So that game may change a little bit.

Speaker 13 I would absolutely have sent my kids, and then they would follow the protocols and just have to listen to whatever was going on. It seemed now, again, I'm not in these conversations, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 13 And I'd like to hear from the Pac-12 and the Big Ten why you decided it now. What make you have this decision now? Because it's conference play.

Speaker 13 We already know the ACC was already going to push back a week to September 12th. The SEC wasn't starting starting until I think the 26th.

Speaker 13 So you can give yourself a little bit more of a runway to see where this is going to go.

Speaker 13 So unless, and I haven't heard, I don't know if you guys have heard, but I have not heard from the Pac-12 or Big Ten,

Speaker 13 the commissioners, why did you feel you need to make the decision now and not give it a little more runway? That would be one of my first questions.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't think that there's an answer to that yet. I think most conferences find themselves in the position of, you know, we learn something new every week.

Speaker 5 And so the longer we can delay this from starting, the more information we're going to have.

Speaker 5 The Big Ten kind of painted themselves into a corner by saying, not only are we not playing, but we're also going to do spring football.

Speaker 5 Do you see any logistical way that spring football could happen?

Speaker 13 Let me put it this way.

Speaker 13 The pros who get paid a hell of a lot of money. These are adults.
These are men with family. These are people that have a union.
Their league says two teams play in February, right?

Speaker 13 Two teams play in the Super Bowl. Everybody's done before that.

Speaker 13 So just take the two teams in the Super Bowl, forgetting the teams that are done at the end of the regular season and then lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 13 The next time those two teams in the Super Bowl in February put pads on is the end of July. So do your math, March, April, May, June, July.
That's five months for just two teams.

Speaker 13 It's even longer for the other 30 teams, right?

Speaker 13 before they even put pads on again. You're talking about putting kids in pads.
And I know they do it for spring football, 15 practices and then a spring game, which can be whatever it is.

Speaker 13 It's not a playing against other teams on a season, quote unquote. So now they're going to play a spring season and they're going to play till April, maybe May,

Speaker 13 hitting another team. So playing full contact football, not a spring game, but playing against other teams.
So now you're into May. You know when they put on pads the next season?

Speaker 13 August, the beginning of August, June, July, beginning of August, August, a little over two months for student athletes.

Speaker 13 And I'm doing air quotes, student athletes, you're giving them two and a half months of recovery time, of which in that recovery time, you have to start your workouts again after you try and recover from playing a season.

Speaker 13 So that is a ludicrous thought.

Speaker 13 to say, oh yeah, the pros are getting over five months off before they put on pads, and you're going to do it to college students in two and a half months, forgetting even the fact you won't have it.

Speaker 13 Now, people will watch if there's football.

Speaker 13 Don't get me wrong, there's the fan side and the player side, and the players are still going to want to play because, hell, when you're 18, 19, 20, you just want to play ball.

Speaker 13 The one thing you are going to miss is you won't have one big player, one top player. Why would you?

Speaker 13 Why would Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence, any big-time player, they're not playing in the spring because the NFL is under no guidelines to move their draft back to help out.

Speaker 13 The NFL is going to do what they want to do. Even if they move their draft back, back, those guys aren't playing.
So that to me, someone answered me that question.

Speaker 13 The pros get five and a half months off and college kids, college players, you're given two and a half months off from pad to pad.

Speaker 1 I think they're just giving us false hope. And that's kind of been the whole thing.
I'm okay with false hope. And I actually, in a weird way, yeah, I'm okay with false hope too.
I think

Speaker 1 it sucks to say, but the SEC and the ACC, the Big 12, it feels like they're almost false hope where somewhere somewhere in mid-September, they can kind of make the argument, well, we tried our hardest and we went as far as we could.

Speaker 1 We went a month longer than the Big 10 in the Pac-12 and we kind of came to the same conclusion. I hope that's not true.
I hope we can get some college football, but it just feels like that.

Speaker 5 One thing I don't think you're considering, Mike, is that there's a good possibility that Notre Dame could play on St. Patrick's Day if the ACC moved everything to the spring.

Speaker 5 And I'm just looking forward to drinking a shitload of beer before that game.

Speaker 13 Listen, I'm hammered anyway, so it doesn't affect me.

Speaker 13 You know what it is? It's another day that ends in Y where I get to drink beer, and this time it's green, so I'm cool with it.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 5 One thing I have noticed over the years is that you've kind of, you've evolved your stance in particular on looking at the NCAA and looking at the whole notion of student athletes and maybe how there's exploitation there.

Speaker 5 Was that largely in part from watching your sons?

Speaker 13 and daughters go through the system or was that something that came about by talking to you know uh administrators and other people around sports i i think it was an evolution of of all of that of of seeing where the game is going see the money involved in the game certainly seeing my kids now listen my i i i i didn't come from a lot of money at all if i had 10 bucks in my pocket when i was at notre dame i was lucky um but you know we all managed just fine you know uh now my kids were were fortunate enough to be in a different situation because things were going well you know for me where i was working to make money for them to have it but a lot of kids don't a lot of players don't And I saw a lot of that as well.

Speaker 13 Now, as I said, and you're right, it has changed a little bit because I had always said, listen, we all did it in the 80s. They did it in the 70s.
My brother Bob did it in the 70s.

Speaker 13 People did it before that. You go there, you get fed there, you get your meals, you know, you get a free education.
And, you know, only 1% move on to the NFL. The rest of you have a great education.

Speaker 13 And the first time you get a paycheck, none of it has to go to paying back any kind of student loan. So there are positives to that.
So you're right, for a while, I was like, man,

Speaker 13 they get a lot. And I do think they do still get.

Speaker 13 You can't just discount a scholarship and what it means. Again, for those that have to go into the real world, because most are not going into pro sports, that you don't have

Speaker 13 a student assistance to pay up. There is something to that.
But as you watch it more and more and see the money out there, Listen, if I just thought, okay, is there a way?

Speaker 13 And the way I like it with name,

Speaker 13 name, image, and likeness is you're not taking it because the first thing that worried me, because Sidney was a swimmer, a lot of her friends were soccer players, a lot of Mike and Jake's friends were lacrosse players.

Speaker 13 If the schools have to pay all the athletes, then you're looking at the possibility of schools trying to justify the money by saying we have to cut other sports. And those are the sports that get cut.

Speaker 13 Like my wrestling program in Notre Dame was cut a few years after I left.

Speaker 13 But you're going to start cutting track and field and swimming and lacrosse and all that so name image and likeness that money isn't coming from the school so they can't cry poor you know a lot of them they couldn't cry poor anyway even if they had to pay players but i didn't want to go down that road where every school had to do it and they legitimately had to cut some other sports because you know what the swimmers the lacrosse players the volleyball players the soccer players they work just as hard as the football players and basketball players just as hard sometimes harder but theirs isn't a revenue sport that's That's just the way it is.

Speaker 13 Theirs doesn't make the money, so they're always on the chopping block. And while I understand that, I'd like to see them in a position for name, image, and likeness.

Speaker 13 Now, they're not going to get a ton of money. I don't know.
There's going to be very, very few, even once that goes through, that will get a ton of money.

Speaker 13 But it would be nice to see the trickle down of some people in all the different sports being able to take advantage of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have one last hard question for you.

Speaker 1 Then I'll wrap up with an easy one.

Speaker 1 So your son, Mike Gullett Jr., who we consider a friend, I think is very talented, but obviously people on the outside are going to say nepotism and say he got a job because of dad.

Speaker 1 What advice do you give to him in that situation, knowing that he's good on his own merit, but he has to prove himself even more because of his last name? His whole name, actually.

Speaker 13 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And listen,

Speaker 13 the biggest mistake I made once we both work for the same company is when we have to do trips for flights for the company. I never should have gave him my same name.

Speaker 13 We get screwed up all the time on that, you know, because I would have fortunate enough to fly first class and sometimes he'll get it and I won't. And that's just not acceptable at all.

Speaker 13 But to answer that question, he is so smart and he understands. He knows he got his shot because of the name.
He understands that. And he knows because of that, that he has to prove himself.

Speaker 13 And the one thing I'd like people to understand is

Speaker 13 if he wasn't good on the air, they weren't going to keep him on the air. Because what it can do, and I'll make a bigger reference here, it gets you a chance.

Speaker 13 And then what do you make with that chance? If you're not good, then you're not going to continue with that chance. It doesn't work that way.
So Mike has been great because he disarms it.

Speaker 13 He's like me, very self-deprecating, and he will admit it. or if somebody comes after him for it, he will be self-deprecating about it.
And what that does, it just kind of disarms everybody.

Speaker 13 it's like well okay he's kind of ripping himself so I guess there's no reason I for me to really rip him anymore and here's the way I look at it as well you know just let's just take our school Notre Dame take anybody's college when you graduate college you have a you have a kind of a network right of people who work in the real world from that graduated from from college you know I'll just take Notre Dame if a Notre Dame student is trying to get a job, they'll put them in touch with maybe a Notre Dame grad who works in that field.

Speaker 13 And a lot of times, and we know this is how it works, that student, that graduating student, they may get a break because it's a Notre Dame alum working in this job that gives them a job, correct?

Speaker 13 I mean, this happens all the time.

Speaker 1 Class ring, just show the class ring, baby.

Speaker 13 It happened. So what it does, it gives them an opportunity because they were a Notre Dame grad and they know someone from Notre Dame in a business.
So they get a chance.

Speaker 13 And this is true for pick a school, name a school for the alumni to help out for those people to get a job.

Speaker 13 and then they have a chance and then if you perform in the job you keep it if you don't then you don't so i i'm not i'll fully admit he got his chance sooner rather than later because of the last name and it was up to him to make the most of it there was pressure on him for it he knew he had to deal with it i think he deals with it well and i think he does a great job he speaks better than i do and he's smarter than i am But I'm his dad.

Speaker 13 So people are going to say, well, you're his father. You're going to say that.
But looking at it as a person in the industry, he's really good at what he does, so that's going to take care of itself.

Speaker 13 Uh, there'll always be the people out there that are going to say, You got it because of this or that, and he'll be the first one to say, Yep, that's right, I did.

Speaker 13 And I knew I had to make the most of it to try and keep work, keep my job.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I also like how when they first introduced him at ESPN, they kind of made him earn it a little bit. They put him on it, like I don't know, they like locked him in a room with Stu Gotts at 2 a.m.

Speaker 5 every morning or something like that, which I mean, they're before the grace of God go by, but it was um, it was a situation where he wasn't like immediately put into prime time or anything like that, right?

Speaker 5 So it was like, okay, if you can make these overnight time slots work, then eventually we'll bump you up. And he cut his teeth that way.

Speaker 13 He did four to six. He went.
Um, it was first and last before Jason Fitz took it over.

Speaker 13 Mike did first and last, and then he would do the first hour of our show, and then that eventually led to all four hours on our show and Jason Fitz doing first and last.

Speaker 13 So you're right, he had to cut his teeth doing that. He actually, before he even did that, his first gig, he went on with the um

Speaker 13 Sunday afternoon or sunday morning

Speaker 13 fantasy football guys the phil yates of the world and stefania bells of the world and matthew berries of the world he would be on for four hours with those guys on sunday morning he did that for a while before he even got the four to six gig and started that and then probably i mean you guys know hell you'll know when i say it then he did that friggin show on sunday morning with stu gotts now all of a sudden stu gotts is mentoring my son i'm like oh my god what am i doing here you know what what direction is he going to go in now so I just had to kind of put my blinders on and close my eyes on that one.

Speaker 13 But now, Stu's been great for him. They had a lot of fun doing that.
I think they're going to actually start that up again because podcast of the world. Hell, that's what I'm doing now with my family.

Speaker 13 We do our Sorry in Advance, a Golick family podcast where.

Speaker 13 You know, there's so many bleeps in it because of my daughter, Sidney.

Speaker 1 My God, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 13 But it's a lot of fun to get the family together and just kind of talk about life. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I want to ask about the

Speaker 5 transition from greenie to Trey.

Speaker 5 So did you have to like forget every Harry Met Sally quote and kind of update your brain to just start thinking in terms of Anchorman and step brothers and any Will Farrell movie to understand the references?

Speaker 13 Yes, it was very different because Greenie and I literally, when he sat down and when, as I said, we were auditioning, there were 13 people that were up to be my co-host after Tony Bruno left.

Speaker 13 And Greeny was not one of them.

Speaker 13 Greenie was just filling in for a day or two until the next quote unquote candidate sat down but greeny and i just clicked chemistry wise really well you know the the nerd and the athlete you know we kind of we kind of did played that game and it turned out working real well now with trey i now so that's the first time greeny and i even met was when he sat down and did that show we did one or two more and then all of a sudden we were doing a show together and we had we didn't even know barely knew one another Trey and I have known had known each other since 2003 because after

Speaker 13 I first started out with Mark Malone, Sean Salisbury, and Meryl Hodge, and it was NFL tonight, then. And then Malone left, and then eventually Trey took over, and it was NFL Live.

Speaker 13 I was doing college football games, Mike and Mike, and NFL Live, and Trey was a host for years. And Trey lived five minutes from me in Connecticut.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 13 Well played. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
I do see Bears.

Speaker 13 So we knew each other. So we had a relationship and we were more

Speaker 13 alike personality-wise. And you're right, it was different being he was a TV anchor as opposed to Greenymore, the journalist.

Speaker 13 So it was different in the fact that Trey and I knew each other for so many years before we even started.

Speaker 7 Do you buy his explanation about the bear?

Speaker 13 Oh, that it was, that it was that day and not an old picture?

Speaker 5 Well, I think he said that it was an old picture.

Speaker 1 And a bear came to his porch.

Speaker 6 He didn't mean that.

Speaker 13 He says he didn't mean for people to interpret the picture of the bear that he put up as being like this is the bear that i just saw he just found a picture of a bear i have seen bears on his property because where his house is i've been to his house and where his woods are i have seen bears i have seen his dogs by the bears so if and now that particular bear i don't know if that was but i have seen bears on his property yes okay okay i'm still dubious to the bear claims yeah yeah i i think i think you and a lot of people are you know what i just it's one of those things i just let lay with tray well and you know let him trey gets to smoking his weed and all that stuff and it's hard to keep track of where his brain's at

Speaker 1 i let you guys try and get that out of pencil yes yes we have many many times um all right so i have one last question it's the meundies soft question of the day go to meundies.com slash pmt to get 15 off your first purchase so I went when you were doing your last show, Twitter and Instagram, they were doing flashbacks and it was really cool to see your whole career.

Speaker 1 But I noticed something.

Speaker 1 You and I share a similarity in that our weight yo-yos drastically. So have you looked back and been like, holy shit, like, I'm fat, I'm skinny, I'm fat, I'm skinny.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm never really skinny, but like, you know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 1 it's crazy to see it.

Speaker 1 How, what's your secret? to always putting the weight back on like I do.

Speaker 13 Well, first and foremost, I remember one of the few times ago I saw you guys you guys were both walking around with freaking jugs of water you guys are doing some crazy thing

Speaker 1 yeah yeah you're a nutritionist

Speaker 1 pissing out fat

Speaker 13 yes i remember that you and your your gallon jugs of water walking around drinking them listen i was a fat ass uh there was no doubt about it i finished playing at 31 32 years old i was 300 pounds and i thought i was in decent shape And I would say, and I hated working out.

Speaker 13 When I was done, I stopped working out, but I I kept eating. And a few years later, I literally walked out of the shower, caught my glimpse in the mirror, and I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 13 I looked like a vanilla milkshake.

Speaker 1 It was disgusting.

Speaker 13 I was like 315 sloppy pounds. And I'm like, all right, just for my health, I got to lose some weight.

Speaker 13 So I got down into the 290s, and then I was in my early 40s, and Mike and Mike was obviously going on. And I was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic.
And my dad was as well.

Speaker 13 So it didn't overly shock me being the size i was and it was in my family so i'm like all right i know i got to lose weight more so i got down into the 60s but i jumped to the 80s and the 60s and i said i i gotta i gotta really get serious about it so i did and through the help of my wife without question i mean the biggest thing and i'm sure you go through it as well is snacking she got rid of all the bullshit snacks in the house so it was more clean eating and i'm like 235 240 now and i'm like my high school weight and i feel great i've had 12 surgeries total, but I've had stem cell on my knee and shoulders to where I can now run and lift again.

Speaker 13 I feel like I'm in great shape. And the good thing is, because of the yo-yo, you're right, is I've held this weight for about five years now at about 235, 240.

Speaker 13 So I feel really good, but I was certainly

Speaker 13 big boned.

Speaker 1 Is that the term we use? Well, fluffy.

Speaker 1 It's good to be able to be when you're when you're at your lightest to be looking back at pictures and being like, oh, look at that fat ass.

Speaker 1 It sucks alternatively when you're at one of your heaviest, but you can look back and be like, oh, that was when I was doing well on my diet. Holy shit, how fat have I gotten? Yeah.

Speaker 13 Well, what I did is when we look back at some, and you're right, there were so many pictures out of memories and stuff. I would look at my wife.
I said, why wouldn't you tell me what a fat ass I was?

Speaker 13 I mean, you'd live with me every day. She goes, I didn't think you were that big.
I said, look at me. I said, I'm a fucking, don't run away from exploding.
I mean, say something to me, you know?

Speaker 13 But so I, like I said,

Speaker 13 I feel great now. I probably eat, I probably eat 80, 85 good, 10, 15 bad.
Listen, I still love my sweets.

Speaker 13 I still love my beer, but I just do it a little more moderation to try and to try and keep it down.

Speaker 13 And, you know, I want to deal well with my type 2 diabetes and, you know, be around for a while to aggravate my kids because that's my job now.

Speaker 1 Yes. No snacking.

Speaker 5 That's going to be tough. Maybe you're not tweeting out snacking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, snacking. That's a tough one for you.

Speaker 13 Snacking is tough.

Speaker 13 And i'm in the torture chamber now of of my son is now eating like real food so it's just like here goldfish for you 10 for me and leftovers now you're in the world of leftovers yeah you're and see i'm i'm out of that spot now because when i was in that spot it's exactly right you know if i had a snack it wasn't one peanut butter and jelly sandwich it was two yeah it wasn't one bowl of cereal it was two i mean for for god's sake when i was feeding my kids the pineapple delight it was called the baby food shit i was was eating that.

Speaker 13 It was so good. So, yeah, you're in a bad spot.
It takes way more discipline, something I don't think you have at all

Speaker 13 to be able to do. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 No, I'll be up again. Listen,

Speaker 1 when I get down, I know that it's just a ticking time bomb until I get back up. So we'll see.
Just trying to delay it as long as possible. Well, this has been awesome.

Speaker 1 We really appreciate you joining us. You're welcome anytime.

Speaker 13 So, listen, I love you guys. I respect the hell out of you guys.
I love what you do. So, and yeah, anytime you want, man, I'm looking, I got to get my tapes going somewhere now.

Speaker 1 It's all bottled up now. True.
I actually, what you need to start doing is writing them down. And then maybe like once a month, we'll just have you just rattle them off.

Speaker 1 And then it would be even funnier if it's like, you know, you're like, I think these, this Blazers team is probably going to win the title and they don't even make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 So we can do retroactive tapes.

Speaker 13 I was told there'd be no writing. Once college is over, I'm done writing.

Speaker 1 Sorry, it doesn't happen anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 5 Well, thank you very much for joining us. I have one last question.
Over the course of those 20 years you were on the radio, this was ongoing saga. As I mentioned, I was a listener.

Speaker 5 I was a frequent listener. How many times did you wash your coffee cup?

Speaker 13 Oh, man.

Speaker 13 Wow. I probably,

Speaker 13 I'll be honest, I probably took it home three times to actually run through the actual dishwasher. Other than that, I would just rinse it out with water and just leave it on my desk.

Speaker 13 Sometimes I wouldn't even rinse it out with water. So, 22 years and probably got put in the dishwasher three times.

Speaker 1 It was natural.

Speaker 5 That's disgusting. No, I don't think that's natural.
If it's coffee, it adds to the seasoning of the ceramic.

Speaker 1 It doesn't really do any harm. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Listen, I'm also one of those guys that I'm not afraid to eat some dirt or some germs. I think it helps my immune system.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. I agree with that.
Well, Mike, thank you so much. Give our best to the rest of the family.
We love the Golix, and we'll hopefully talk soon.

Speaker 13 Sounds good. Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We're going to have Joey Molinaro in here for a second for in a second to Rose, quickly just go through

Speaker 1 Billy's list. I actually only wanted to talk about one thing on Billy's list.

Speaker 5 Steve-Oductaped himself to a billboard in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 That was cool, but no, I wanted to talk about number seven on Billy's list. Billy now is running out of topics.

Speaker 1 He copy and pasted an ad that says sideline reporters more interesting than the game. It's just a chick's ass.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I put those in.
It's an ad.

Speaker 7 Do you know that I put one of those in ads? No, no, like one of those clickbaity things.

Speaker 1 Oh, you do? Every list? Wow, I guess.

Speaker 1 Well, that says a lot about me. I didn't notice until it was in the ads.
Last one. Exactly.
Example.

Speaker 1 I am a follower of Big Dumper.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So, Steve, that was

Speaker 1 pretty awesome. And also, you see, Brooks said he regrets some of his.
Let me read this. Brooks said, I honestly was struggling coming down the end of the third round.

Speaker 1 I was well back, and I saw DJ was at minus nine. I burnt to go minus seven.
I was focused on Dustin. I had no idea who was

Speaker 1 minus eight or with me at seven. To be honest, when I'm looking at leaderboard, I'm never looking who is behind me or tied with me.
I only look ahead. I view myself as going forward no matter what.

Speaker 1 So I regret that part of it. That's what I was trying to say.
That I didn't know who was on the leaderboard at the point because I hadn't looked.

Speaker 1 I just genuinely didn't know the guys at eight and seven. See, this is what we said.

Speaker 1 People are going to go after our guy Brooks.

Speaker 9 Brooks, he's focused on who's in front of him.

Speaker 5 He's not there to finish second. The fucking haters, man.

Speaker 1 It's sick.

Speaker 5 I think that's where some of the cocky stuff comes from because I always think I can win. I truly believe it.

Speaker 1 Yep. And you know what?

Speaker 5 This is an Asterix major championship. There were no fans in attendance.
I think Brooks feeds off that crowd energy. Yes.
Most guys of the moment gets too big for him.

Speaker 5 So this is Brooks is playing with like a four-stroke handicap, one one stroke per round, when he would just like nut out an eagle and instead settle for a birdie.

Speaker 5 It sucks because there's no fans to entertain. He's a people's golfer.

Speaker 1 It sucks that people are going to hate him, but we know the real truth.

Speaker 1 And then, also, Pilly, did you make this chart?

Speaker 1 I found that on Reddit. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I was going to give you credit because Jason Derulo thought cats would change the world, and then there's a chart that says release of cats movie, and then it goes down and says things going to shit.

Speaker 7 December 2019.

Speaker 1 2019. So, yeah, everything went to shit.
The world went to shit. Damn.
Okay. That sucks.
Okay, we're going to finish up the show, the week, with

Speaker 1 first time on the show, our friend Joey Molinaro,

Speaker 1 a fantasy fuckboy, come to real life. But no, if you don't follow him, he is hilarious.
He's been at Barstool now for, I don't know, like three, four months, four months, five months? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pretty much right when shit went to shit. Yes.
That's when you signed.

Speaker 1 He's based out of Indianapolis, but he's here in New York this week. He's going to be here often in the fall.
Very, very, very, very funny. So go follow him.

Speaker 1 He's also got Cup of Joey that comes out on Monday mornings.

Speaker 1 Possibly Ian Happ coming up. Yeah.
Okay, so everyone listen to that. So we're going to have Joey does unbelievable impressions.
We had people roast us as Colin Coward analogies.

Speaker 1 And give it a shot. If it's weird, you can just start going back to your regular voice.
But I think this will be good. Okay.
Thanks, Big Cat, for that intro. There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 This is the herd.

Speaker 1 PFT looks like a god combined with every guy who has ever sat on a college lawn playing guitar and brought their hotness score down by four.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 A fake tough guy claims Twitch comments don't affect him as he consistently plays into their hands and the non-dad cracks. Wait, wait, wait, what the fuck is this? Yeah, they don't always.

Speaker 1 They write like Hank. Yeah.

Speaker 6 The grammar is always bad on those.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think they do it on purpose to make me or Hank look bad.

Speaker 5 Yeah, not a lot of punctuation going on.

Speaker 1 That actually makes sense. I think that...
So maybe Hank is actually a genius, and it's just that everything he has to read is bad.

Speaker 1 I also could have

Speaker 8 edited these before sending to you.

Speaker 1 No, that's okay.

Speaker 1 So you can just finish that one in your regular voice.

Speaker 1 Okay, a fake... Yeah, because I don't know.

Speaker 1 A fake tough guy claims Twitch comments don't affect him as he consistently plays into their hands and the non-dad cracks dad jokes which only gets sympathy laughs from the intern

Speaker 1 that they bully because he didn't get it yeah Billy I think he's talking about you yeah he's talking about Billy there

Speaker 1 no I'm I'm the fake tough guy you're not the tough guy affected by Twitch

Speaker 1 PFT is the non-dad who makes dad jokes you're the guy that doesn't get the jokes that don't make sense right but you just cheat you cheese about the non-dad dad jokes uh let me shift gears with this

Speaker 1 two guys with failed first careers converse with the internet. Adopt an illiterate college dropout, Billy.
Darren Revelle, a steroid using... Oh, wait, no, no, no, no.
Oh, no. That's not Billy.

Speaker 1 That's Hank. That's Hank.
Hank is the illiterate college dropout. Billy is a steroid using D3 special teams player and a colorless cameraman, Wiam.

Speaker 1 And... They fight against ghosts as they try to make up new content during a lockdown while their fans only say they aren't as good as they used to be.

Speaker 5 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 It is interesting, though, that you have to specify in the future over which illiterate person on the podcast you're referring to.

Speaker 1 There are many. I'll take a drug test.
Yeah, let me start with this.

Speaker 1 Melissa Etheridge, Melissa Etheridge, you guys know her? And Fat Liner gamble away their $750,000 podcast checks while their least favorite wide receiver asks them to tell them about the rabbits.

Speaker 1 That's you.

Speaker 5 It's a a mice and men joke you're the you're the tall stupid

Speaker 1 socially challenged guy that we're gonna show one day big j journal hold on big j journals here also if hank shaved he'd look like a bob's burgers character

Speaker 1 that's good bobs burgers box that's

Speaker 1 uh a dad who drank too much slim fast big cat and a crystal meth addicted kid rock pursue their dream oh wait wait that that's on me that's on me by the way crystal meth addicted kid rock is redundant yeah

Speaker 1 to say kid rock exactly So we can just say Kid Rock

Speaker 1 pursued their dream of playing Dungeons and Dragons instead of talking about football.

Speaker 1 Not on a football talk.

Speaker 1 A lot of football going on right now.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How about this one, Joy?

Speaker 1 PFT, where's PFT? Sorry, I couldn't see him behind that 5'7 grain of rice.

Speaker 1 I've also seen

Speaker 1 Boomer.

Speaker 1 One more here for you guys.

Speaker 1 I feel like I see a hank outside every local AA meeting.

Speaker 1 PFT, PFT looks like a hungover sorority girl from a bottom-tier house.

Speaker 1 And Big Cat. Yeah, yeah, you know, Big Cat.
Big Cat's mustache, just shave the stash. You'll never be Mike Ditka.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 And then the last one here, based off of Big Cat's inferiority complex to PFT, I'll bet his dick is the same length as Billy's college football highlights. Oh,

Speaker 1 that's tough. That was a Ricochet shot that went went sideways on you.
This hurt.

Speaker 1 Let's play no. Thank you.
That was fantastic.

Speaker 1 Joey.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on. I don't think.
I was going to ask. Jake, send me one more, and

Speaker 1 I can do like Coach O or something. Sorry, I'm kind of taking it over here.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I want to hear the Coach O. Yeah.
Sorry, Big Cat. What were you saying though?

Speaker 1 Oh, I was going to say,

Speaker 1 how's the first six months of Parcel Ben? It's been great, man. I like being in the office better than just working from my apartment like a schmuck, just like on my own.
Yeah. But, you know,

Speaker 1 you got family. You got cats.

Speaker 1 Three cats. Three cats.

Speaker 5 You're bordering on becoming crazy cats.

Speaker 1 Not bordering. No, I think it's.
No, he's there.

Speaker 5 He's a cat guy. Three cats.
Yeah, you're a cat guy. But if you get one more, then you're a crazy cat.

Speaker 1 He has a tattoo of his cat.

Speaker 1 He's a crazy cat guy.

Speaker 5 You have a tattoo of your cat. You have a tattoo of representing all three.

Speaker 1 Representing all three of the cats.

Speaker 5 Billy has something to say, but I'll just speak for Billy.

Speaker 6 I already met his cats, and they're actually giant and kind of cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're alpha cats.

Speaker 1 They're Marlon's fans. I got one that is a definite alpha cat, yeah, and then one's just a bitch.
But Remy, big alpha cat. Okay.
That was in my intro video.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm ready for Big Cat to meet my little cats. Yes.

Speaker 1 My favorite thing is whenever a cat person is like, I got a cat, but it's so cool. It's basically a dog.
It's like, well,

Speaker 7 you can just get a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It'll be a little bit more.
But

Speaker 1 you never have to teach your cat how to shit or where to shit.

Speaker 1 Or piss. Yeah, okay, that's true in your house.
That's true.

Speaker 1 They literally set it up and then they just magically know it's insane. You're right.
In your defense, you're right.

Speaker 1 It did take like, I don't know, two days for me to have to teach Shell where to shit. It's going to be a tough win.

Speaker 1 I did it, dude. It was two days of my life.

Speaker 1 I do. I do.
I have like the Death Star, basically, in my fucking... You don't know.
You're not a Star Wars guy. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But

Speaker 1 in my room.

Speaker 1 What do you mean you have the Death Star? Like, I have the Death Star version of a litter litter box.

Speaker 1 And it, like, literally, it works on its own.

Speaker 1 All right, you know what? I'm flipping because

Speaker 1 you've owned the cat guy thing so much, being like, I'm going to combine my three cats and Star Wars. I'm back on your side.
Thank you. Okay, big cat on with the cat guy.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Here we go, Coacho,

Speaker 6 with the last one.

Speaker 1 Five galizing guzzlers use incomprehensible behavior to land megastar guests and mold the youth of America from D ⁇ D and depth spectral titles.

Speaker 1 Perfect. All right, we'll see you next time.
See everyone on Monday. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 5 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Billy?

Speaker 9 I've been having a lot of thoughts lately.

Speaker 14 First thing is, we had that comment from the UMass football coach about how mourning the loss of football has been really hard. Let me just tell you something.

Speaker 14 There's a time in every football guy's life where he becomes a football guy. Where football is the only constant in their life.

Speaker 14 That's where true grit is born. When everything around you is hectic, crazy, stressful, football is the only constant.
I think this also applies to football guys, guys.

Speaker 14 And with this, the only thing I have to look forward to when we have a football scheme is drinking pre-workout,

Speaker 7 video games, working out.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 14 I would like to give you permission

Speaker 5 to get absolutely bombed somewhere next.

Speaker 1 They're all the same. Yeah, they're all the same.
You've given the same talk, like the last 10.

Speaker 1 There's no more.

Speaker 1 He just keeps cutting.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking of it.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about

Speaker 1 the fact that Schoolpoll doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 9 Billy, just talk about the animals.

Speaker 14 Mix it up.

Speaker 1 Let's end this one. Next week, come with something real.

Speaker 9 Write something out.

Speaker 14 Dinosuchus is a giant crocodilian species that lived in North America, circa, 65 million years ago. It was basically a giant alligator.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 7 PFT doesn't love you anymore, he doesn't say it. I do.

Speaker 1 I already said it.

Speaker 5 Remember who loves you? I already said it.