JuJu Smith Schuster, Will Compton, Grit Week Stream Prep And More

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Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, Grit Week marches on, and we have a two-for interview for the people.
Juju Smith-Schuster from the Pittsburgh Steelers, awesome interview with him. And then our colleague, Will Compton, who is currently a free agent in the NFL, talked to us about grit, about making an NFL roster, being one of those end of the roster guys, what you need to do.
Awesome interview with him and also kind of a full circle because he was coached by Bo Pelini, one of the first ever Grit Week guests. We also have Hot Seat, Cool Throne, Guys guys on chicks, and we're going to get ready for our 24 hour stream coming on Wednesday.
We're going to get right back to the show. take.
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It is the day of our 24-hour grit stream. That's right.
Hopefully you listen to this show in the morning because you're going to have 24 hours starting at noon of strictly part of my take. Of dudes.
It's just Dude Stream sponsored by Dude Wipes. So, yeah.
And Body Armor. And Bud Light.
And Bud Light. So we've got, in addition to all the different activities we're going to do, which we'll get into in a second, I feel like we should discuss the hourly challenges that we will each be undertaking because there's been some debate going on back and forth about who has it the worst when it comes to these hourly challenges.
Big Cat's going to be eating a hot dog. One hot dog every single hour.
I will go back and forth between buns. I will probably eat more buns than less, but there will definitely be some hours that I raw dog it.
He will be switching back and forth between his buns and his meat. Billy will be doing 26.2 miles.
A marathon. He's doing a marathon over the course of the day.
He's also on a treadmill, on a treadmill. He's also going to be trying to get a new topic trending every hour, wearing a t-shirt with that topic.
And he's just going to have to keep every single t-shirt on. So change shirts or add an additional shirt every hour until he's wearing 24 t-shirts so by the end of it by the way we should start uh you should if everyone can help the first one should just be grit stream yep i like that stream should be the first one at 12 o'clock to kick it off so as soon as you wake up and hear this let's start tweeting grit stream we'll get it trending get it ready we also this was a g i don't even remember who came up with the idea that billy was going to be on a treadmill but it was a genius idea because we've essentially neutralized having to hang out with billy for all 24 hours it's like yeah we just put them away we're like it's like walking a dog the only you know a good dog is a tired dog yep billy will be tired out and we don't get full billy the whole time.
Billy has been trying to negotiate with me behind the scenes a little bit this week, trying to switch up tasks because I have to drink a beer at the top of every hour. One beer per hour.
I'm still a little bit nervous about that. I don't think I've ever drank 24 beers over that long of a period of time before.
Yep. Maybe once or twice in college.
I might have crammed those 24 beers into a shorter time frame, but this one is going to be interesting. I don't know how know how my body's gonna react i think what's going to happen is at the beginning of the stream it's going to be very easy at the end when we're low on sleep it's you're going to start getting drunk so billy was trying to negotiate and say hey how about we trade off where he can drink 10 beers and i can run 10 of his miles and i was like wait billy i'm not gonna i'm not gonna drink 14 beers and then get onto a treadmill afterwards.
I don't think that anyone's going to like that. Also, I was telling Billy it's for his own good that we're not letting him drink 10 beers on this.
Correct. So and then Hank has to read what a page out of a book every single hour.
And that's the worst. Yeah, that's the worst.
And then it should be a Jane Austen novel. Jake is going to be doing a rebellion pack of cards every single hour.
So he's hoping for that Fauci card. Yeah.
So it's going to be it's going to be I think Billy has it the worst. I think it might.
I think I might have a second worst. I don't know.
I'll trade. The real question is,, obviously, and me and Jake are probably excluded from this

because it'll be easier for me to read, whatever,

24 pages, Jake can open 24 packs

of cards. The real question is

which one of you guys is going to bow out

the earliest?

Will PFT, how many

beers out of 24 will PFT drink? How many

hot dogs out of 24 will Big Cat

eat? And how many miles out

of 24 will Billy actually do? That is the bet that people should be judging on. He'll bowel out first.
He's going to have some major shits after like five or six hours. I'll be fine.
I'm going to eat them all. Yeah, you can poop.
Can I throw up? I don't know. Yes.
Okay, I might throw up at some point. I actually think I had this idea last week.
I think you guys are both going to, all of you will be closer to like 15. Could we barter behind the scenes? Could I be like, hey, Big Cat, take two of my beers.
I'll take two of your hot dogs. No, I want to eat 24 hot dogs.
I want to be up for the challenge. Now, with Hank, I had this idea last night.
Tell me what you think about this. Instead of reading a book or maybe in addition to reading a book, you remember that game, the 24 challenge, Challenge 24? Yes.
The cards that have four numbers on them, and you have to figure out how to get to 24 using those four numbers what if we what if we gave hank a three dot card at the top of every hour and he's not allowed to participate whenever fun activity we're doing until he solves the three dot one okay i like that where are we going to get that i ordered them okay perfect so we're good to go okay hank has to do a puzzle what billy do i have to do 26. or 24 miles? 24 miles.
A little less than a marathon. Yeah, 24.
That's fair. We're doing 24 beers, 24 hot dogs, 24 miles.
24 packs of cards, 24 puzzles. It's going to be great.
You say a baker's marathon? Yeah. I like that.
I like that. And also, kudos to Billy for waiting approximately seven minutes into recording this to trying to get out of.

Oh, I mean, yeah, he's Billy. Billy time in place for Billy is just irrelevant when it comes to like, hey, Billy, you got to do this.
Yeah. Like maybe takes a breath.
He's like, do I really have to do that? So we have a lot planned, though. It's going to be fun.
24 hours. We're going to be raising money for the Children's Miracle Hospital Network.
So if you have money that you want to donate to a great cause,

it's a dollar sign, part of my take on the cash app.

So we're going to raise money throughout.

We're going to dump it all into the Children's Miracle Hospital Network

at the end of the stream.

We'll do that live on the stream.

You can watch us.

So that will be great.

It's going to be a great cause.

And then we also have some fun things planned. We're're gonna play some jenga we have some ping pong uh i think we are going to do a couple interviews we have maybe danny woodhead who's going to be putting us through a workout at like 6 a.m um we're gonna play some video, maybe against some guests of ours.

We're going to do an episode of Chopped for dinner. Two episodes.
Two episodes, and for breakfast. We're going to do a spelling bee, and then at the very end, we're going to do Dozens Trivia with Jeff D.
Lowe and Brandon Walker, which should be just horrendous by us. I actually want to nominate, by the way.
I saw the teams. I would like to – What are it's it's uh hank pft and myself versus jake billy and and brandon i would like to make an amendment to those teams i think that it should just be billy and brandon i think billy and brandon billy brandon's gonna have such a heads up like a a leg up on us because we will have not slept and brandon you'll be you'll be drunk i'll be be sick anytime Brandon's not on camera he is sleeping right as a hibernator so Billy and Brandon though the combo the two of them dealing with each other so I don't mind that at all I actually like that the problem is Jeff has it in his head because he runs the dozen trivia contest where he has like these graphics set up right and the boxes set up Jeff doesn't like having an off kilter screen where there's a ton of people on one side and two people on another.
So if we can convince Jeff. Well, we can all sit in the screen together.
Well, we could be in one screen, but the way that he has it set up on screen, like the way that the graphics package is going out is that there are two screens, one on each side. Right, but I'm saying it could like the four of us could sit on one screen together and the two of them could sit on one he just doesn't like the off balance right right okay well we'll have to we'll have to negotiate that with you just want to lock me in a room with brandon i think it'll be very funny i want brandon walker to actually murder you right and jake would be too much of a speed bump because jake is like a reasonable human being that brandon walker can reason with So that would eliminate the tension between you and Brandon.
Can I give you a sneaky little, uh, pick into who I think will be the first to murder somebody else? Cause I don't think that it's going to be Brandon murdering Billy. I think that might be the second murder of the live stream.
I think that there's an outside chance that Hank murders Jake because you don't think Hank first Billy? Hank hates Billy. Yeah, but we're going to be playing ping pong in the second hour, the second segment.
And Hank and Jake have an actual rivalry, an actual, like, Pittsburgh, Baltimore. These teams don't like each other very much rivalry.
Good thing they'll get mad at each other and then we'll just have 22 more hours to hang out. And instigate them, yeah.
You remember that when you were a kid and you'd have, like, one sleepover with your best friend and it night ever you're like this is sweet let's do it again and then by the end of the second night you just wanted to kill each other like get out of here it's gonna be like that except in the second hour for us yes so uh we're very excited again if you just started listening this year we usually do a grit week and a training camp tour obviously we can't so we thought this would be a fun way to do something uh that follows all the the cdc rules and the pandemic rules we're all together and we're gonna make the best of it and it's gonna be fun hop in when you can and by the way we'll tweet out but we're going to watch two movies we're trying to figure out exactly how we can do it so you can watch it with us so you can just pull up the screen and see what we're seeing mystery science theater type uh so we'll do that in the middle of the night and we're also going to record reviews of that that will be on friday shows so we'll let everyone know what those movies are so if you can't stay up you're not up with us you'll be able to watch it and uh we're going to pick some classics so everyone will be able to probably have seen it before uh so that is coming noon tomorrow. Get excited.

Other news.

Baseball is all the way back, except the Marlins are just done.

Yeah.

I mean, I would have bet my ball sack it was going to be the Mets that would have all their players infected and every other team be fine.

Is that a new saying?

What, bet my ball sack?

Yeah, that sounds cool.

It just came off the title.

It's pretty cool.

It's got alliteration going.

I would bet my ball sack, my bean bag. I would wager my ball sack.
Yeah, that's cool. It just came off the title.
It's pretty cool. It's got alliteration going.
I would bet my ball sack, my beanbag. I would wager my beanbag that it would be the Mets.
So I'm shocked that it's the Marlins. But it's like, what, 17 players? And the way that they handled it was probably the worst way that they could handle the situation where they had a bunch of players, I think four tested positive on Monday, right, or on Sunday, over the weekend, I believe.
And then they all got on a group thread together and they were like, hey, do you want to keep playing? And the team was like, sure. So then Don Mattingly said, yeah, we're going to play this game.
There was no checks or balances put out by Major League Baseball. So now the whole team is sick.
Listen, I love baseball. I stayed up till one in the morning watching the Cubs almost blow the fucking game to the Reds.
And I had moment where i was like why am i doing this because this season could just be canceled at any moment why am i investing my time but i'll still watch every game but i don't i think i'm like a lot of people right now every bad news i my first thought is what does this mean for football because i don't know if you have to cancel the entire season for a single team.

And I don't think they're there yet, but they did say they're canceling the week,

which I don't get how they're going to rectify the schedules and everything.

The schedule for the Marlins is canceled until Sunday.

Right.

So everybody will be fine by Sunday.

And so the Marlins are canceled for a week.

We had a bunch of people in the NFL, no big-time, big-time guys,

but a couple notable names opt out for this this year and it just makes me nervous i'm just nervous i just want i'll say it again maybe it's been too long maybe i haven't been uh forceful enough nerds come up with a fucking vaccine feel what you feel do it feel what you feel you're allowed to be nervous i think we're all in that same boat together where every little bit of bad news you're, well, how much longer is this going to go on? When you say no big names, you're kind of right, but the entire Patriots defense is basically like, what, five or six guys? So, do you think that this is Belichick being like, we'll just get Trevor Lawrence? Well, there was a quote given to Adam Schefter today from an anonymous GM and it said, you know Bill is masterminding all of this somehow. For what reason? I don't know.
That's why he is who he is. NFL GMs are just like us.
Everyone assumes that Belichick has his shit together. I think that the Patriots might be putting together like a shadow team and just getting through camp and he's got all these guys that he knows want to be impact starters.
He's like, they're going to be my shadow team. They're going to stay healthy, and then I'm going to bring him in before the season starts.
That's just me being too woke because Belichick is always up to something. And they have way more cap room.
And he also just doesn't – I mean, he has the ultimate – whatever like 100% job security, he has like double that. So he knows that he could probably tell his guys like, hey, if't want to play you don't have to play look like a good guy and then possibly draft trevor lawrence have we gotten the take from gottlieb yet that all these players are dropping out on the patriots because cam newton's a bad leader yeah or they're just not having fun yeah yeah yeah that's another one that could be i don't get the the trevor lawrence thing like the patriots are the exact opposite of a team that would be like we need trevor lawrence it goes against everything.
You don't need Trevor Lawrence, but it would be better to have Trevor Lawrence. But the six players opting out, the Patriots, they're like the Dolphins last year.
Everyone thinks they're going to be bad, but even when they're bad, they're not going to be in the tank conversation. Patrick Chong takes care of his body.
He's also about to have a baby. A lot well, that makes sense.
There are a lot of guys that are in, like, the high-risk factor. Right.
Like, I think it's if your BMI is over a certain point, which is not saying that you're not an excellent athlete because those guys are usually the best athletes on the field. No, you see, though, like, Eddie Goldman from the Bears opted out.
I think the nose tackle from the Vikings opted out. Like, some of the bigger guys are probably like, yeah, this is not worth it.
Marquise Goodwin opted out from the Eagles, so they're back to having no wide receivers. Which is perfect.
They're ready to go. I actually think that Goodwin is just saying, I'm going to train for the Olympics next summer.
I was wondering this. If you opt out, like David Price, right? He opted out.
If the Dodgers, which they will make the playoffs if the playoffs happen, can he just be like, fuck it, I'm opting back in.

I want a chance at a ring.

There are probably some rules around that, I would imagine.

Because that would be the ultimate, like, I'm going to opt out,

and I'll just wait and see how my team does,

and then I'll opt the fuck back in.

I mean, Roger Clemens did that for four years.

Right.

Brett Favre did that several times.

It's kind of a genius thing to do.

The more people do opt out, the more I start thinking, maybe, you know what? Maybe Brett Favre couldve could come back yes you might have another year left in them i'm just i'm getting nervous i am not there there's also this uh you get like a million retweets now on twitter to be like why is sports media why are sports media people rooting rooting against sports happening it's like i don't think anyone's really doing that i think we're just nervous we just don't it's an unknown unknown. I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea what's going to happen, and that makes me terrified.
I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea what's happening, but I am very much rooting for there to be a football season. Yes, if there's a football season, I'll be happy.
There's zero part of me that doesn't want football to be played. But I also don't know what's going on, and it sucks.
So, yeah, it's just one step forward two steps back every single time so they should there should be a punishment for the marlins or for baseball i don't know because you could make the argument that it's not necessarily the marlins fault because most baseball players would say yes we want to play this weekend you know right i don't think that most players maybe a few here or there would say no i don't want to show up show up. But for the most part, they want to play baseball.
So do you punish Mattingly? But he's not like an infectious disease expert. No.
Do you punish baseball? I say you punish Derek Jeter. Okay.
I think that that's fair. You make Derek Jeter go out there and he plays.
I like that. Yeah.
Like an old timer. Tell me you wouldn't watch a game where the Marlins, it was just like Derek Jeter, Gary Sheffield, all the old Marlins fucking superstars getting out there and just whiffing on every pitch.
Yeah, as long as it's just nice to see sports. It's nice to have the ability to go home and be like, oh, there's a sports game coming on, and I'm just scared this is going to be taken away from us.
Although the bubble life seems to be working because NBA is going to start on Thursday, and it feels like they're good. Knock on wood.
I did start Monday's show saying baseball is all the way back and then it was like boom the Marlins have been cancelled. I think when you see the bubble life it's worked for MLS.
It's worked for the Women's Soccer League. I don't.
Yeah. MLS season is? Actually, that's not true.
Is it? It's still going. They play their games at like 1.30 in the morning.
Good job, MLS. You did it.
MLS plays their games as if it's a Korean World Cup soccer match at like 1.30 in the morning. I can't keep track of where it's going.
Oh. But MLS, I don't think they've had a single positive case after people have been quarantined in the bubble.
Yeah. Yeah.
So hopefully it works. By the way, the Talking Soccer at 2.45 tomorrow, Swansea's got their game to try to get to the final game before they can go up.
The semifinal is to reach the peak of the lower league. Correct.
I like that. So we'll have that on.
We won't be able to show it on the stream, but we'll have it on somewhere in the stream. Okay.
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And they, for whatever reason, put out a video themselves being like,

look at how successful this social distance concert was.

It was a drive-in, and everyone had to stay in their own camps

six feet apart from everyone.

And in the video, you don't see any cars.

You just see it looks like a regular concert, people wall-to-wall,

right next to each other, freaking out.

Their hit song is

closer not like maintain

a safe distance away from yeah

and so and then

and then the articles that came out

this was the headline which is just a ridiculous

headline organizers defend the chain

smokers dicey hamptons concert for fuck

jerry's tequila brand

and apparently the opening DJ

was also the CEO of Goldman

Sachs oh oh yeah

that guy that guy like he's a pretty prolific

Thank you. Jerry's tequila brand.
And apparently the opening DJ was also the CEO of Goldman Sachs.

Oh,

oh yeah. That guy,

that guy,

like he's a pretty prolific DJ.

I've seen him around a few places in the news.

It's weird.

That might be the douchiest sentence you can actually come up with.

Yes.

Organizers defend the chain smokers,

dicey Hamptons concert for fuck Jerry's tequila brand.

No,

no,

no,

no,

not that one.

Opening set done by DJ.

Who's also an executive at Goldman Sachs.

The CEO of Goldman Sachs did a DJ set in the Hamptons, opening for the Chainsmokers. That's the duchiest sentence ever created in the English language.
It sounds like a Gary Vee Mad Lib. That's so bad.
Oh, my God. Holy shit.
You should just add as an undercard for a Paul Brothers fight. Yeah.
But yeah, they're in the hot seat big time. People are mad.
Cuomo's mad. Everyone's mad.
And then my cool throne is... Are there his nipples leaking? Or his nipple ring? I saw his tweet.
I don't know how his nipples were going for that tweet. And the cool throne is LeBron.
Literally. So you guys...
I'm sure you guys have seen how they're doing the NBA media interviews. And they'll tweet the behind the scenes of a player sitting on a stool in front of a Zoom call.
LeBron was literally sitting in a throne. And he was like, I need to lower my chair.
Someone was like, hey, it looks like you're sitting in a throne. And he said, absolutely not.
It's one of these hallway chairs everyone sits in. Frank Vogel did the next interview.
He was back in the stool. So it was literally only LeBron James that was sitting in the throne.
And he was acting like it was like, oh, yeah, this was a coincidence. Total coincidence.
I need to look up and see if this was actually a throne. Yes, please.
LeBron James, I was sitting in the throne, and he was acting like it was like, oh, yeah, this was a coincidence. Total coincidence.
I need to look up and see if this was actually a throne. Yes, please.
LeBron throne. Okay.
Let's see. I like it, though.
LeBron sits in throne-like. This is from LeBronWire.com.
Oh, no, that's a throne. No, you know what it is? It's one of the lobby chairs.
It's one of these hallway chairs. No, it's a lobby chair.
It's a lobby chair. It's a lobby chair.
It does look very throne-ish. You're right, because it's got the red velvet on there.
By the way, I had no idea that USA Today had a website. Like a subsection of USA Today is called lebronwire.usatoday.com.
Look at Frank Fogle's chair. That's immediately after.
He's sitting in like a children's kitchen chair. It is a lobby chair.
I respect the hate, Hank. I think you're on the right path.
Did you see that video of LeBron pulling out a big sack of ice just right on his penis? He was just sitting on the sidelines in a game and just had an ice pack on his penis. Damn, he's got the grays, too, in his beard.
Big time. That's just saying.
Washed king. Not anymore.
He any younger. Alright, PFT, what's your hot seat? Cool throw.
My hot seat, actually, Hank, is Taco Tuesday. Because there was an NBA Reddit account.
It's, let's see, it's you slash angry centrist. So, probably putting up some threads on Twitter.
Yeah, seems like, probably works for the Lincoln Project, I would imagine.

So he did a statistical analysis

of every single LeBron James game played on a Tuesday night

before the Taco Tuesday era,

and then during the Taco Tuesday era.

I like these.

What he found might shock you.

He found out that pre-Taco Tuesday,

he had a win percentage that was 4% higher than normal. So Tuesday nights were LeBron James nights.
He would win at a higher clip than he would any other night of the week almost. In the Taco Tuesday era, it's minus 2%.
So he's doing statistically way, way worse now on Tuesday nights because he's eating so many tacos. Or maybe he's waiting to eat them until after the game and that's all he can look forward to.
He's hungry. He's playing on an empty stomach.
So he's like, I need to just get through this game so I can get to Taco Tuesday. That's actually probably why he had the ice pack on either his penis or on his testicle anus area because it was too spicy.
It's gooch. He had the taco seasoning on his hands.
My cool throne is is the fullback assist the fullback assist is on the cool throne chris collinsworth replied to our initial offer and he has a counter offer would you like to hear it yes okay so he addressed it to um new york new york barstool hq july 28 2020 dear mr commenter pff agrees to add a new state-of-the-art metric, the PFT Cometor fullback assist. The fullback assist will chart all touchdowns assisted by fullback.
Both parties enter into a full commitment to normalize this long-overlooked metric. In exchange, Barstool's PMT and PFF agree to split profits on a luxury line of affordable fullback assist.
And here's a guy merchandise. In addition, PFF agrees to give Big Cat a free PFF elite account with personalized concierge service to prove that even a Bears fan can win money.
Cheers, PFF. A little dig at you there.
Well, yeah, and that's it. You know what, Chris? I don't like that because I have had an elite account, and I suck at gambling still.
But you didn't have the concierge. No, I did.
I had everything. I fucking paid everything.
So joke's on you, dude. So he's made a counteroffer.
I don't hate it. I like the idea of the here's a guy line of menswear.
I like the idea of creating fullback assist merch. And I think that sounds good to me.
He power shifted on us, by the way. I tried to pull the art of the deal, then he power shifted.
He also realized that we weren't going to do any follow-up. So he just took it into his own hands.
Well, no, I wrote a blog. Oh, yeah, yeah, but after that, it wasn't going to be.
I said the ball was in his court. That would have just died forever.
I said the ball was in his court. Yes.
He responded, which means that I think we should just take this.

Yes.

No, take the deal.

All right.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Add 25 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.

I was going to say maybe just like a $50 gift card to Buffalo Wilder.

No, 25 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.

And 25 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.

25 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.

A mix of spicy and regular.

Yes.

More spicy than regular. 13 spicy, 12 regular, and some Polynesian sauce.
Mm-hmm. Extra Polynesian sauce.
And one milkshake. That could be your choice.
Yes. Flavor is up to you, Chris.
Yes. The ball is in your court.
Deal. Done.
All right. My hot seat is Aaron Rodgers.
I don't know if you guys saw, but he has taken to the bottle, which is scary stuff. He said that when he found out that Jordan Love got drafted, he used some tequila to cope.
So problem drinking. I thought he said that he likes scotch.
Yeah. So he's mixing his liquors right now.
Problem drinking. He was like, I need the hard stuff.
I'm going to the tequila. So I don't know.
I'm just reporting what I heard. I'm not making a decision one way or the other.
Just ask yourself if you're a Packers fan. Do you have a problem? He broke up with his girlfriend.
She might have put a crystal curse on him. He's getting older.
You just drafted Jordan Love. He's drinking way too much tequila.
Is there a problem? I think it doesn't bode well for him. He's going to be very, very wobbly on that bike ride out to Lambeau field with the kids.
Yes. Yes.
And then my other hot seat is all of us because we had to, we had to basically live with a getting a FaceTime. We had to live with a Clay Travis versus Darren Revell.
Darren Revell feud on Twitter that was tough to wake up in the morning that was hell when I opened up Twitter before my call who's FaceTiming trying to do some kid time being a dad that tweet what was that tweet that I retweeted who's that that guy? The rapper. People said that I needed to get him on.
Currency. Dude.
Yeah. Would love to get currency on.
Can we get him on? What was the tweet that he said? I was. He's like, my kid doesn't even realize it.
You tell me. Yeah.
Hold on. I'll find it.
When did your kid learn how to use FaceTime? It's not my kid who's using the FaceTime. Oh.
Hold on. It said, currency is his name? We need to get him on.
He said, my son is the homie. Straight the fuck up, man.
This kid doesn't even know, man. Made my life full as fuck, bro.
My heart. I was like, yes.
I believe that. My son is my homie.
He doesn't even know. Don't you actually think it's a more valuable skill to teach him how to FaceTime as opposed to holding the camera up in front of him all the time? Yeah.
He'll get there. Give a man a FaceTime.
He'll get there. a day teach him to facetime and you're talking about my son i mean your son's gonna learn about chill out there jeffrey epstein one listen i'm just saying one uh he's gonna want to talk to his girlfriend eventually cool thrown kirk cousins cool thrown kirk cousins uh because he wears socks with his sandals and gives himself a toe wedgie,

which,

you know what?

I'm going to say it for Kirk cousins.

We,

we always bash him.

He's consistent.

That is a man who uses tinfoil on his grill for his steaks.

That is a man who is as corny as possible.

I'm happy that he is consistent in what he wears.

Holy shit.

What a look.

So it's,

it's the socks and then the thong sandal that goes in between your big toe and

your second toe.

We'll be right back. corny as possible.
I'm happy that he is consistent in what he wears. Holy shit, what a look.
So it's the socks and then the thong sandal that goes in between your big toe and your second toe? Right. I don't know what it is about that look.
It just makes me shiver thinking about it. I don't know.
It's gross. Yeah.
He came out of the womb as a dad. He's just embraced dad life his entire life.
Also, he got the 14th, it was either 14th or 15th best quarterback in Sandoz's annual quarterback tier rankings. So that's good for Kirk Cousins.
He's up, he's normally, like you can pencil him in, he's number 16 all the time. He's right in the middle.
Now he's all the way up to 14, so good for him. Wow, great for him.
Alright, Billy, your hot seat, Cool Trone. My hot seat is reoccurring guest paul rabel oh rabel the commissioner of the pll has not been playing well as a player interesting so he might get cut from his own uh league he might cut himself well i don't know we cut him no he's not on our team but we can make the paul rabel clown shirts right yes because Yeah, why did you say R? You're a fucking Atlas fan, you asshole.

Well... on our team.
But we can make the Paul Rabel clown shirts. Right.
Yes, definitely.

Yeah, why did you say Paul? You're a fucking Atlas fan,

you asshole. Well,

he's on the Atlas and he's playing terribly.

Zero goals, zero assists.

What do you think the reason is? I think

he's wearing shorts too short.

Okay, good analysis.

Anyway, he's a quad father.

He's not getting involved in the offense enough.

They're not getting the ball enough. Anyway, my

cool throne is

Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes

I'm going to go ahead and get started. of a anyway he's a quad father he's not getting involved in the offense enough they're not getting the ball enough anyway my cool throne is patrick mahomes patrick mahomes buys into the royals uh and if his quarterbacking doesn't work out he can fall back on being a baseball owner wow or is 500 million dollars hey you guys hear this joke uh patrick mahomes now owns two teams the Royals and the 49ers.
That's pretty good. I don't think that I would like to own the Royals.
Wow. Especially if there are no fans at the games.
I think it'd just be like a lot. It's not going to be forever.
It'd be a lot of paperwork. I don't think he's just buying it for this 60-game season.
Yeah, just going and having to watch like 163 Royals games. Dude, it's right next to the facility.
Yeah, still. Baseball team I'm in for.
I'd buy a baseball team. Honestly, like the owner's box after a practice, just like with all the food there.
Right. It's not even for the baseball.
It really is the same. They never show.
They don't really show. When they show Arrowhead, they don't show the Kauffman Stadium is right there, but it is right there.
I think if there's any if you're gonna buy in on a team might as well have it right next to your job anyway he's definitely gonna try to play at some point right yeah he's got to or he's gonna lose training throw batting practice yes yes absolutely is that the first owner player in sports uh well LeBron I think under the table is taking money from the Cavs, Jackie Moon, the Heat, the Lakers, all those. Nice.

Yeah. Well, LeBron, I think, under the table is taking money from the Cavs.
Jackie Moon.

The Heat, the Lakers, all those.

Nice.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I think also there's a bunch of...

No, I don't know.

Player coaches, but not owner players.

Jerry Richardson.

Who owns the Nets with Jay-Z?

I thought there was like a whole group and maybe a couple players.

That's a Russian billionaire. No, I know he does, but I'm saying like Jay-Z and then, I don't know.
Okay, we'll look into it. The Williams sister owned part of the Dolphins, I believe.
Who? The Williams sister? Oh, and that's right. Serena and Jake own the team.
And Serena Williams' daughter owns part of the new NWSL, and so she's probably going to play on that team at some point. That pretty cool yeah um all right let's get to our interviews we got juju smith schuster up first and will compton before we do that grit week 2020 is sponsored by dude wipes the original original flushable wipes for guys while everyone is stocking up on toilet paper you need to be stocking up on dude wipes better than toilet paper dude wipes are multi-purpose to use anywhere on your body to help you stay clean and hygienic during this interesting time and all the time if you're not using these yet while dropping a deuce do yourself a favor and check them out you feel so much better and fresher rather than only using shitty toilet paper they will truly change your life the dude brand has also expanded to a whole line of awesome new products to help you crush every bathroom experience, including the new dude wiper 1000 bidet attachment, which is a lean, mean poop destroying machine and dude bombs.
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for 10 off at dude products.com okay here he is juju smith schuster okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is pittsburgh steelers wide receiver pro bowler rose bowl champion i gotta mention the rose bowl greatest bowl game in america it is juuju Smith-Schuster. Juju, thank you for joining us.
We got a lot of things we want to get to, but let's start with just how are you feeling about the season starting? And are you ready to go? Do you know, like, is there a plan? I mean, first thing first, I was like, thank you guys for having me on here. This is pretty big.
Honestly, you know, I felt great. You know, I felt great, I felt great with my body where I'm at, with training.
As far as the season goes, that's something that's up in the air between the NFL, PA, and the NFL. What we're doing right now is basically that we report, hopefully, the 28th of next week.
There's definitely – we're're being tested, like, every two days. And coaches are being tested, like, every day pretty much so far.
So I think our first test will be Tuesday. And then from there, it's every two days you're constantly being tested.
And we'll do that for about two weeks, hopefully, and then see if we get something to stir up. So, I mean, I hope you have a season, man.
I mean, you know, obviously. Obviously, sports is pretty much one of the reasons why a lot of people live.
Yeah, we go insane when there's no sports on. We barely made it through the last four months.
It was like tooth and nail to get through. As a veteran, as an established guy on your team, is a part of you kind of excited? You're like, hey, I only have to do nine practices this this preseason and maybe half of those are just you know wearing shells and shorts oh most definitely you know when i came in my rookie year i was definitely the guy that i was practicing every day you know scouting offense scout team uh you know pretty much doing everything i can but yeah as a bet um my practice and you know my playing time is not not so hot as i you as I would want it to be.
But that's just how it is during the preseason. So you'll see very few of me during the preseason.
And then, you know, when the season starts, that's when we get rolling. So, Big Ben, have you thrown the ball with him? He's looking so skinny.
What the hell happened? Do you guys actually call him Big Ben now? What do you guys call him? Well, we call him Ben. He's like Slim Ben.
Yeah, Slim Ben. Medium Ben.
Have you ever seen him in a walking boot? I've never seen him in a walking boot. That's a lie.
Not true. You're lying.
That's fine. That's fine.
He keeps walking boots in his closet like they're Tim's. He just slaps one on in the morning.
He's like, yeah, it feels like a walking boot day. Come on.
Offseason, we've been working together. That's something that he brought us together as a team, as a unit, just to talk to us.
Also to throw and work out. That's something that working with him this offseason, he's pretty much back to where he's at.
Back to 100%. As you percent uh as you guys know he lost some weight uh and that's probably the better for you know for him and the better for our team so i'm super excited what he was gonna bring to the table you know like i said he'll all be big then uh to the stillers fans yeah i mean the nfl is more fun with ben in it does he when he's in the huddle what's he like is he ever like ever like, fuck it, Juju, just get open.
Like, I'll fucking hit you, dude. Like, I'm gonna throw

it wherever I want.

Bro, I wish. I mean,

I wish. In the huddle,

he's more of like, you know,

come on, boys. Like, we've been here before.
This is nothing new.

This is just practice. You know, we worked on it,

you know, since day one, you know, like,

especially when it goes to, like, two-minute offense

where we have to drive down the score. You know, as a kid, you know, I grew up watching him doing that.
And then when I fast forward, like, five, six years later, I'm in the same huddle as him, and he's, you know, he's talking to me, and I was like, this is what it feels like. But it's fun, man.
Like, when you're in a huddle, you don't want to leave or let nobody down. So it's all about, you know, your teammates.
Yeah. Was there, like there a like adjustment period learning how to play with him at quarterback because a lot of times you'll run your route and then ben will somehow have like two defensive ends on his shoulder pads like a stray cat ran on the field like bit his leg and he's dragging that around he's got another guy around his waist but he's still like extending that play and looking for you downfield like were there some times when you cut off a route and you're like, oh, he's sacked right now, oh, shit, he's still up? Yeah, man, with Ben, you just never know what's going to happen.
It's hard to sack him, obviously his size, and that's something that in practice we do a lot of scramble drills, a lot of drills that you know you pretty much um are running you know left

and right and i would say half of my plays that i've made this season is obviously off of just

broken up plays yeah um how is uh bougie doing your dog very cute dog uh bougie's lit man uh i

was just with him right now he's with his girlfriend uh porsche they're hanging out so

your dog is cooler than i dude 223 000 instagram followers and right now he's lit and he's

Thank you. girlfriend uh portia they're hanging out so your dog is cooler than i dude 223 000 instagram followers and right now he's lit and he's hanging out with his girlfriend portia that sounds like better than anyone else is doing right now man that's awesome how long they've been dating for um honestly i would say since uh they first met so i would say about almost two years.
Wow. That's what, 14 dog years? Dude, Bougie better put a ring on it.
Oh, no, for sure. You know, Bougie is, you know, we're going to try, you know, get some babies out of them.
I read that you played for Snoop Dogg as a head coach back in the day. Is that right? I did.
I did. Yeah, Snoop.
What's he like as a head coach? Like compared tolin? Is Snoop Dogg a visor guy? Is he a big whistle guy? Hi. I like you, baby.
Yeah. At the end of the day, it's like whatever he says, it doesn't really matter because he's Snoop Dogg.
And our team that we had was legit. All the players we had on our team, we all pretty much ran D1 just because he had the most lit team.
It was his league, and it was fun, man. I played with his son too, so it was a fun experience.
I can see a little bit of similarity actually between Snoop Dogg and Tomlin in that they're probably polar opposites personality-wise, but they both have this ability to say things that don't really make sense,

but you understand exactly what they mean when they say it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, for sure.

I mean, one of the things is like, you know, one of the things that Coach Tomlin would say would just be like, like, no matter, like, who you are, how you get here, doesn't matter.

All that matters is that we got to go out there and win. And it's just like, what we take out of that is just like oh we just got to win right one standard is the standard extra stuff but he says it but at the end of the day like it gets all of us pumped up fired up and we go out there we get the job done we win a game we go home that's it yeah how many times a day do you think mike tomlin says at the end of the day? I don't even know.
That's a good question. You should count.
You should bring a clicker like they use at bars to count people and just kind of time them out one day. Yeah.
Probably like five or six, ten. Yeah, probably double figures.
Does he ever say shit that you're just like, what is he talking about? We have a couple – we've done a couple segments, Mike Tomlin quotes, because I think he's one of those coaches that – he's obviously a big-time player coach, but then sometimes he'll say something very relatable, actually, where in your head it's like this is going to be profound, and then it comes out and you're like, wait, what did he just say? What was the big one that we had last year? I mean, he came up with the standard is the standard. The Red Barn thing, remember? He had he had something about fuck now i can't think of it i'll think of something yeah bring bring your own paint if you want a barn i don't know does he have quotes that you're just like wait what is he saying right now i don't fully follow but i know he's the right place i mean when you when you have someone who's you know who's been coaching for you for what the past three years you know you kind of like it's repetitive you know you hear You hear the same things.
Some things may change a little bit, but at the end of the day, when someone gets in trouble or someone gets a fine, all he says is, bang, bang. If you're late, you get fined for 5K, or if you don't make a practice or a meeting and you walk in late or your phone goes off,'s like bang bang i like that i like that i'm gonna start using that for billy our intern when he fucks up i'm just gonna point the guns at bang yeah gotcha fine five hundred dollars intern gone um juju i have a bone to pick with you because i was watching one of your videos that you put up on twitter the other day it It was your garage workout thing that you did.
You set up a garage to work out, but you left out the most important part of a garage workout. And that's the fridge that you keep in the garage that only has beer in it.
And then you drink your beer after the workout. Every garage has to have that fridge in it.
Why did you not have a beer fridge? I don't drink, man. That's something's that's personal to me i've never been a drinker um i mean i'm like i drunk one time in my life and uh it wasn't the best it wasn't the best feeling actually it was in college i was playing beer pump for the first time you know i'm not i'm a football player at this frat party you know you know i'm having a great time you know this guy this uh my teammates like yo let's play man i really beat these man.
We'll beat these kids out. You know, my teammate, he was really good.
I mean, he was – I would say that he was probably one of the best players I've ever seen. And that night, he had too much to drink, so he lost.
So I'm drinking beer. I don't know what type of beer it is, so I'm drinking beer.
And, like, the next morning, I'm supposed to be on, like, Fox Sports West talking about Pipe 12 football stuff. And I end up, like, not making it, like, black, like because I had too much beer.
Like I woke up, my voice was like all like raspy. And ever since then, like I've never, like I've stopped, you know, drinking.
And that's, that's why I don't have the beer in the refrigerator. You're probably going to live longer than all of us.
You're probably like that. Probably you can feel it in like doing athletic stuff.
I, this is a dumb question that I ask uh most wide receivers we have on but do you ever have a moment where you're just like it's fucking awesome to be this fast like you're just running and you're like this is sick i'm fast um it's a dumb question i'm a slow guy so i don't know what it's like to be fast like is it ever just like oh shit this is cool man i'm fast no for me it's it's not more so about i would i would say like when i think about oh i'm fast i'm like yeah i think i'm fast like fast enough to get away but i'm not like fast like you're talking about like we talk about other guys fast like i look at them like damn he's fast like there's guys on my, he's fast. For myself, I'm like, yeah, I can get a bye, like the second defender, and how much I can get before I get tackled.
Okay. Okay.
I like that answer. I'm a huge college football fan.
I do believe that I love traditional powers. I do believe USC not being good the last few years has hurt the Pac-12 and college football overall because we need USC to be good how the hell do they get good again what's going on man honestly brother like I think we just got to recruit better and then the the biggest part for us like recruiting is we got to go down south need like those big guys you know who's gonna be in the trenches because we're gonna have the athletes we're gonna have the skilled players you know, like that's what we're just known for, receivers, running backs.
We're going to have a quarterback. You know, that's the most definite thing we're going to have.
But our biggest problem is I think what we can be great at is I think we can be better in the trenches. Yeah.
That's an interesting problem. I've never really thought about it that way, that like the state of California is too healthy to produce great offensive linemen and defensive linemen.
Would you say that's accurate? Yeah, I mean, I would say it's up there. If you think about the downstop, you think about Alabama, you think about those top-tier teams, they're a running game team.
They're going to run the ball, pound the ball, they're going to throw it too. I think in the Pac-12, we throw the ball a lot.
It's awesome. It's cool.
I like when we throw the ball, but at the end of the day, like we have to be able to just run the ball more and just dominate in all aspects of the field. So I think USC, you know, like I said, we started off, you know, we've been slow the past couple of years, but, you know, I think we're on the rise and I think we're going to be a team, like you said, a traditional team that's going to come up.
So one thing I love about you is you seem to be like a guy who doesn't take life too seriously.

And you do little things that are always very funny.

You went trick-or-treating as yourself in full uniform.

That's a hilarious move.

How many people, like how long did it take for people to realize like, wait, that's Juju.

Like he's wearing

his full uniform that's juju for for a while man i went on to it there was like a lot of kids and like obviously they when you run out you're wearing so's uniform i wear like the whole legit like oh my gosh it's juju it's juju but it's like is it really juju because I have a visor and they can't really see my face

and so I took it off, they're like, oh my gosh, it's really Juju. So it's just something that's my personality, my life.
I feel like we have a lot of NFL guys who are pro athletes who legit just focus on their own sports, which is totally fine. I don't have nothing against that, you know.
I think that if you love football, if you love golf, hockey, basketball, whatever it may be, like, that's all you. But like you said, like, like LeBron, he's more than an athlete.
Like, those are a few guys who are just like out there who just like show more of your personality. And, you know, with football players, it's so hard to do that when you have a helmet on.
So outside of football, you know, I live my life to the fullest. I make YouTube videos.
I do things that, you know, I can't be doing. I do collabs with other YouTubers.
I do stuff with other Instagram people. But at the end of the day, you know, I do love football.
And that's one thing that I always get shit for is that, like, because you really love football, does you really care about football? But at the end of the day, I'm just a human being too. And I love what I do.
I love football. I love my teammates.
does you really care about football but at the end of the day i'm just a human being too and i love what i do i love football i love my teammates i love to play football but at the end of the day i don't want to be you know juju myself because when football is done like what am i going to have right right i think it's more than possible for for somebody to play in the nfl excel at the sport and to have a personality off the field too i think that we're starting to see that more and more yeah that I'll say that's one of the hardest things to do is to dominate on the field and also to be active off the field because once you start doing bad on the field and people look at other things, oh, he's doing YouTube videos, he's playing too much video games, stuff like that. Well, the Twitch part is great because you get to interact with your fans and I know your big Fortnite.
So we rated, pardon my take, Twitch rated your stream like two weeks ago and we brought, I don't know, like 10 or 15,000 people over. And what I don't understand, I hope you can explain this to me.
You play in the NFL. You played at USC.
You play in front of hundreds of thousands of people, millions watching on TV. But when your stream went from like 600 people to like 10,000, you're like, holy shit, all these people are watching me.
How is that nerve-wracking when you play in the NFL? Because like it's totally different. You know, when you have millions of people watching, like the fans and the people on TV who are watching you through TV, it's different because, like,

you're out there by yourself. I mean, you're out there

with your teammates and everything. You have a helmet on.

No one's really focusing on you unless you make a big play, right?

And then

you get on the computer, and now you have, like, this camera

that's just right in front of you, and it's just

one-on-one. And you're interacting with your friends,

and it's crazy. Like, when people

raid anybody, like, it can't

even be a thousand viewers, and people go crazy, you know? And it's just that, you know anybody like it can't even be a thousand viewers and people go crazy you know and they just you know i'm excited i'm happy um you know i want when you guys rated me when other people rate me um it's cool because like you said it's it's a different platform for me this is not my original platform you know if they had a football streaming i'm pretty sure you know my viewers probably a lot higher but you to be on Twitch, it's unbelievable, man. Like, it's so awesome, like, what you can do on Twitch.
Yeah, you know. It just gets me excited, man.
When you get, like, even, like, a thousand viewers, I'm like, oh, let's go, let's go. That's with it.
Yeah. And I saw that you started your own eSports organization, Team Diverge.
Is that it? Yeah, man. So, growing up as a kid, I've always been a huge gamer.
It was always a passion. And, you know, at one point, I was part of Faze.
And, you know, being with them, I've learned so much. It's unbelievable what they do.
And I was like, man, if I'm so into gaming, I love gaming. And if I would start any business of mine, my personal, from the bottom up, what would I do? And then it came down to gaming.
And that's something I've been passionate about. And hopefully, you know, we'll be launching soon within the next two weeks.
And, you know, we'll be an organization where we're not just gamers, but we're also lifestyle. Oh, I like that.
I like that a lot. All right.
So, Juju, I had one last question. It is Grit Week.
So we're going to run this during Grit Week. That's next week.
And we're sponsored by Body Armor Grit Week. You can go get body armor at drink body armor.com or uh any other flavors on amazon i'm a strawberry banana guy i love it it's the best so go get body armor right now so my body armor question so it is grit week we always ask our guests what does the word grit mean to you and when have you had to use it in your career i mean what is give me give me an example how you would use grit um all right well uh making a team or um you know what it takes to be excellent in the nfl like that extra bit when your talent doesn't get all the way that you know i mean like when your talent uh isn't enough you have to put in that extra work, that extra effort.
Like, you know, has there been a moment where you said to yourself, you know, okay, I have God given talent, but I'm going to have to do X, Y, and Z to make sure that I'm getting to the next level. Yeah, man.
That's a good one. For myself, I would say grit is something that, you know, I've always been, I was always, you know, fortunate to be on a good team.
And I was always fortunate to make the team and to, you know, do enough, you know, to get by. And then when I got to NFL, like, that's when I had to, like, face, you know, adversity.
And that's when grit came into my life because, you know, I was put on a team on the side of me where, you know, I had AB, I had Le'Veon you know james carter coming in he's from pit i had so many other you know martin is bryant we have so many skilled players that i like i've never ever had the face of like not starting a game like my whole life i've always started a football game whether if i was up warning going to high school i I was always top tier number one. And when I got to NFL,

I kind of got like sit down, like you're not starting this game.

And it even got to the point where like,

am I even going to suit up this game?

And that's probably one of the hardest things I've had to face, you know,

being behind, you know, AB Martavius Bryant and like those guys and Eli

Rogers not being able to start a game. And that's where grit came in.

Like that's where I had to put in the extra, that's where I had to, stay at the meetings talk to my coach put in an extra film um mentally you know because um that's the only way I was gonna play it wasn't the physicality it wasn't the mental thing like I had all that like that came to me gifted I was naturally with that the only thing that was the hardest part was how much do you know the playbook how? How much playbook do you know? Where can you play? Where do I fit in this? And that's an example of being able to know all the positions and all the players on the team because at the end of the day, everyone is a savage and everyone's going to get their way. I like that answer.
I like that answer a lot. We're going to let you go.
Before we do, let me just grab one quick headline out of you. What is your record going to be this year? Is it going to be 11-5 or 12-4? You said 11-5 and 12-4? Which one am I taking? Yeah.
I'm going with 13-3. 13- even better 13-3 I gotta find these I really want to go back down the rabbit hole Next time you come on Oh here it is If you have red paint You paint your barn in red That was a Mike Tomlin Oh yeah he was talking about Mason Rudolph getting into the game Yeah if you if you have red paint, you paint your barn in red.

Simple as could be.

I mean, that saying is that like, I don't even know what.

Right, right.

It's my top of quotes.

Yes.

I'm going to put that something together.

That's like, okay, if you have a 14-yard route, run your route at 14.

Yeah.

I think the context of that quote was Mason Rudolph is our starting quarterback this week, so we're going to start Mason Rudolph. Yeah, he also had, I think, about Duck.
Like, he hasn't killed us yet. I hope he doesn't kill us or something like that.
It's like, what's going on? I love Mike Tomlin. He's the best.
That's awesome. Yo, and the best flavor is probably watermelon from Body Armor.

Oh, okay. Perfect.

I actually like that one, too. We like strawberry banana

in the watermelon, too. Yeah, strawberry banana,

watermelon is go-to. Alright, well, Juju,

thank you so much, man. This has been awesome,

and let us know when we're

down to play some video games. Let's do it.

Let's do it, man. Thank you.
I appreciate it.

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Okay, Grit Week, we now welcome on our co-worker. He has played in the NFL.
He played for Bo Pelini at Nebraska. Currently a free agent, so someone sign him.
Also a podcaster, Bustin' with the Boys with Taylor Luan. It is Will Compton.
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That's how much I love these things. Will, we wanted to have you on Grit Week because we read your blog to the gritty undrafted NFL players, and we thought it was awesome.
And we thought, what's the perfect guy to have on for Grit Week is a guy who, you know, the guy who has to find a way to make the roster not the you know first round draft pick the gritty guys that fill out a roster the guys that don't get the claim as some of the uh glory boys out there so that's right you're the perfect guy uh let's start with actually can we just kind of go through some parts on your blog because i thought the best part was you gave tips to guys like how can you be gritty and make an nfl team yeah let's start there okay shut the fuck up and lay low was the first tip what what uh what is it like when you first go into a locker room in the nfl and you're thinking like oh i played in nebraska i played some. And then bam, holy shit, this is a different world.
Yeah, I mean, you're nervous as shit. Like you're walking in a locker room with grown men.
You're not in college anymore. No one really knows who the fuck you are.
And no one, like over the years, you see rookies come in, you see guys do well, you see guys do poorly in camp. And no one likes when rookies come in with some type of run in their mouth at all, talking too much.
A saying I always heard. Shout out Sean LaValle.
He was like the first one to say it. Don't speak unless spoken to.
He would tell rookies that at the table. Jason Hatcher, who came to the football team, he would tell rookies, hey, don't speak unless spoken to.
No one wants to hear a rookie speak. Keep your head down, work.
So that was kind of the first thing because for myself writing a blog, I have a podcast now. Obviously, I'm on social media a lot.
I put in there, I love the fucking circle jerk as much as the next guy. I love joking.
I love talking a lot of shit. I love having a great time.
But when you're a rookie going in, don't, don't follow suit of all the social media you've been doing. Don't follow suit of everything you see around you.
Don't follow a veteran. You got to fucking put your head down, shut the fuck up.
And you're there to make a football team. So where, where does the line get drawn? Because I know a lot of players come in, especially if they're a high pick, you were undrafted.
But if they're a high pick, they come in, they've got some pride, right? They've got like almost like a small sense of entitlement sometimes, especially if they're a high first round pick. Where does that line get drawn between like, hey, you can stand up for yourself.
You have to respect me as a human being. And yeah, I'm a rookie.
I'm going to shut up and do whatever the fuck you asked me to do and keep my mouth shut. Yeah.
I mean, it never gets, it never really gets that disrespectful. It's kind of just assumed that you understand.
And if you don't, um, as you guys know, like sitting around a table with all the boys, like somebody gets shirt that and jokes on, and usually guys are able to take jokes well. Um, but if you're somebody who has like, say for instance, you go up for a rookie skit and you're like, what's your signing bonus? And somebody's like, you know, a million dollars.
Everybody just starts going crazy. Like, oh, shit, he's a paid guy, blah, blah, blah.
Like, veterans don't care how much, like, a rookie comes in because that guy who's, like, a high-round draft pick, like, you still got to prove yourself. And a lot of those guys understand that.
Like we actually just had AJ Brown on and he actually seemed like an awful rookie, by the way, Arthur one, you're a shitty rookie. But apparently he, he was like, no, I'm not going to take no shit.
Like he's somebody that kind of was like went against the grain. I want to say Dez Bryant might've been like that saying, I'm not going to carry pads around and do this and that, but it's just kind of like the fraternity of entering in the NFL last year when I was on the Saints this rookie he didn't want to do a rookie skit and if you suck at doing rookie skits and you don't have anything to perform

or make fun of or do a presentation they usually make you get up and sing and this one this one

rookie he was actually an undrafted cat it was tough to watch dude I just watched him basically

crash and burn right there I knew he was gone and he didn't want to get up to sing kind of

Thank you. this one rookie, he was actually an undrafted cat.
It was tough to watch, dude. I just watched him basically crash and burn right there.
I knew he was gone. And he didn't want to get up to sing, kind of the whole prideful thing, like, you know, I'm not going to be disrespected, blah, blah, blah.
And DeMario Davis stood up. And this was – I was only on the Saints for like 10 days.
And DeMario Davis stood up and kind of went off about how close the Saints were to a Super Bowl and how it came down. And he asking guys, hey, how many plays away were we from going to the Super Bowl? Hey, how many? Obviously, that one play that everybody knows about.
And he's like, it's not about yourself. Like you're in this room.
You're in a you're in a you're an environment of a team like Cameron Jordan spoke up in the back. And you kind of just felt that like dudes, the team policed themselves.
And I sitting back listening to DeMario, very well-spoken cat, a lot of respect for DeMario. And he's explaining to this rookie, like, Hey, you got to get outside yourself.
And I don't care what, what the fuck people tell you to do. Like you're a rookie.
You're doing it because you're on for the sake of the team, not your own individual self. Like, yeah, you're going to get laughed at and people are are going to wad paper and throw it up at you and boo you off.
And it's just part of it. Like, you're getting, like, initiated.
You're part of the fraternity. Like, everyone's taking you in outside of that.
Like, it's just part of the gig. We're doing this for the team, not your individual self.
So that's where I guess I would explain a line being drawn because that shit does happen. Guys get a little defensive and prideful about having to do something.
It's something as small as like singing a song. But, you know, when leadership stands up and speaks, like somebody like DeMario and Cam Jordan, you got all those guys kind of standing up and speaking to you.
Everybody kind of just shuts up and listens. What was your skit that you did? I made fun of all the coaches.
So I would sit in the linebacker room, and I would kind of take mannerisms and stuff that my linebacker coach would do, like his one-liners, and I would mock him with a clicker, with a laser pointer of how we watch film. I made fun of the D coordinator about how he presents film.
And so I kind of just did a bunch of different coaches. And then I had guys kind of reenact like what they actually did in film, like if they had a dumb answer and how I would respond to them, whether it's somebody like London Fletcher compared to if somebody had the same answer, if they were a rookie and how I would shit on the rookie, but, but be like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, London.
That makes a lot of sense. And, uh, I also did it on the Titans.
I made fun of Ray ball. I had a great skit with Ray ball.
Would you cut your dick off? No, that was before the dick cutting, but brave, brave, brave. You guys know, right.
He's a, he's a football guy, dude. But, uh, he was, he, he was, uh, he was super fun to do him and, uh, his assistant stretch assistant stretch shout out stretch we put together this whole highlight film of like you know taylor got turned around by jason pierre paul in our joint practice and um busted taylor's ass about hey how much hey john how much we fucking pay this guy and just did a whole bit but that's kind of like my stitch making fun of mocking people so i i always wondering always wondering, when you talk to NFL guys, they truly do just care about what you can do for the team on the field.
As a guy who went in and was towards the end of the roster, was there a moment where some of the guys who've been there for a while looked at you and was like, wait, this guy can actually help us. And that like validates why you're there.
Yeah. Those are, that's probably one of the better feelings to get as like a rookie or going into my second year when I actually made the team.
Cause the first year I just, I was on practice squad. But when those vets come up to you, because when you go into camp and like guys who have been there, like your room is already predetermined, not predetermined, but everybody kind of has a sense of like, when somebody gets drafted each year, and if it's a linebacker, you kind of understand that that backer might be there.
You're not thinking of any undrafted guy that they bring in. You already think your room is set.
And then once you get there and you start witnessing like an underdog type guy showing out and the coach talking about him in meetings and bringing him up, and then a vet comes over to you and talks about, Hey man, like you can make this team. Like you, you legit have a shot and you don't know how stuff's going to work out.
You can't think about that. Don't think about, are they going to keep an extra DB? Are they going to keep this? Like just keep doing your thing, man.
Cause I'm telling you, like coach doesn't say this or guys don't think this way about it. But once you, once you start to feel that from a veteran, that's when you feel good about where you're at.
Because guys just, it's like you guys. Like if you guys already understood who you were going to be working with and then some person that you never even heard of or was on the list in front of you, they're kind of showing out and you're kind of like, yo, I respect that dude.
Like who is that? Like that should be our intern or somebody who works with us. And then you kind of validate them.
It's probably like, you know, fucking waking up on Christmas morning. And the reverse happens, too.
Like, not to name names, but I've heard stories where guys have said, like, yeah, we would bring in, you know, our first-round draft pick or our second-round draft pick. And almost instantly, the veterans on the team would be like, no, this guy's – this isn't – like, he doesn't have it..
Like he doesn't – he doesn't have – he's not going to be an NFL guy for long. And it's crazy to think that like just playing with a guy on the practice field, you could probably figure something out faster than a scout could do watching a guy for four years.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, obviously between players and like scouting department players think scouts suck.
Scouts tell players to probably stick to playing. There's always like that division of like who can judge talent and shit like that.
Because as a player, you're like, yo, I fucking do this, blah, blah, blah. And then you got scouts who judge you and people in the media who could try and place you in a box.
But yeah, I always hate it for those high round guys who might not be showing, tapping into their potential yet, and guys are already trying to say, you know, use the word bust or something else, just because it's like you just know it's a young mind still stepping into this grown man's game. So however he's being talked to, whether you're arms around him or you're hyping him up or giving him confidence, like it affects everybody mentally.
I mean, it's not like anybody's Superman in the head. Like everybody's susceptible to any kind of criticism.
So it sucks to see when that happens. One of the things that I saw that you listed here was you need to get to know the special teams coach if you want to make the team as an undrafted guy.
Obviously, special teams coach controls a lot of the numbers because he can be like, I use this dude on kick return return i use this dude on punt return etc etc and it kind of gives you a home uh so in other words you're saying like be a suck up be a little bit of a suck up to the special teams coach what did you did you like bring danny smith extra packs of chewing gum or like how did you get in with him um how i got in with him well i was always um it took me a little bit to get uh to be a better special teams player because I didn't play it at Nebraska and I wasn't the best special teamer that's probably why I was on practice squad my first year because I was always solid at playing linebacker like I could back up every spot but special teams I would struggle with for whatever reason in my second year Adam Hayward his wing. Shout out the boy, Adam Hayward.
And he's like a menace. He was like a menace special teamer, played like nine, 10 years in the league.
And he was brought to the Washington football team as a special teamer. And so Adam and I were super tight.
He kind of took me under his wing. So the fact that I was around him and he would joke with me and tell the special teams coach, like, no, coach, like, I got him.

He's my guy, blah, blah, blah, this and that.

That helped me out.

I wasn't necessarily a suck up, but, you know, you got to have some good jokes in the old belt.

You got to – you have to play the game, man.

Hey, PFT, you know you're going into these – going into the world of football.

Like, you're trying to rub some elbows every now and then.

You got to learn how to play the game without seeming too much like a tryhard. Yeah, me and Pep, we were just playing grab ass for a while on the sidelines there because I knew that at the end of the day he was going to be the one who decided if I made the team or not.
Yeah, if you're a fringe guy, they're going to ask the special teams coach how is he at special teams, more specifically the punt team because that's the most trusted unit. And that's the coach that's going to kind of stand on the table for you so you want to make sure he has good words to say because if he shits on you and he's got a lot of respect in the coaching department like you know you're going to be cut that was my problem is i i they asked like how is he at special teams and they're like well he sucks that's his entire job he's to play special team he's not good at that so it's tough for me um so will the we always hear about guys you know hurt versus injured and trying to make a roster i'm sure you were in that spot a lot where you were banged up and uh had to show up and work what what was like the worst moment with the lowest moment when it comes to like holy shit i don't feel good but i gotta go in and I got to practice and I can't, I can't give up reps from trying to make this team.
No doubt. Yeah, that's a good question.
And there's so much gray in that question because it's hard to judge how somebody's like feeling because stuff that we might play through some other guy can't, I mean, whether or not we want to say he's a pussy or not, it's just, it just is what it is. But my hardest moment and probably my most pivotal moment was my first year when I was obviously fighting to make any kind of part of the roster.
I was seventh on the depth chart out of seven linebackers. So there's a first team of two, a second team of two, a third team of two, and then me.
And it was brutal. It was very humbling.
And you just realize that, oh, these guys aren't Bo Pelini and they don't, they're not as close as Bo makes it sound to where everyone knows who you are and they know I'm some heady, savvy football player. Like no one gives a fuck.
And the first day of training camp, Keenan Robinson tore his pec. The first day, he was out the year before with a pec injury.
And the next year at training camp, it was supposed to be like him and London Fletcher. And he tears his pec.
So immediately, I go up to the threes. And there was another undrafted cat ahead of me named Jeremy Kimbrough.
And in the second week of training camp, Kimbrough strains his hamstring. And so I now get to move up with the twos.
And mind you, all summer long, I'm breaking down the Redskins offense because I'm trying to figure out Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur, they were all on the offensive staff. I'm trying to figure out every tendency that they have based on what they're going to try to get better at in practice during training camp, which is going to be some fundamental stuff.
But I knew that the couple reps I would get in practice, I had to be perfect at those reps. I had to like vocalize.
Like if I knew what the play was, like I was going to just fucking scream it and yell it. And if it worked out, if I'm yelling, hey, watch play pass, play pass, play pass, blah, blah, blah.
And it happens. You want coaches to know like, yo, this guy kind of knows what the fuck he's doing out there.
And so then I got thrusted into the twos. And that week that I got thrusted into the twos was the week leading up to my first preseason game.
And I actually tear my hamstring that week. And I didn't know it at the time that I tore my hamstring.
I just thought I had a really bad strain. I like woke up the next morning, I could like barely walk.
And we go out to walk through. And like, you know,, obviously all the undrafted, like all of us,

we were, we have to do the walkthrough. Like we have to be the service team.
And I kind of like

weaseled my way into the back and didn't show face and kind of skip the walkthrough because I

was trying to figure out how I can get through and practice because in my mind, it's like,

this is my opportunity and I can't, this is, this is, this is fucked because my hamstring is

fucked right now. So I went to a trainer that I trusted.
I called him Dr. Evil.
Shout out Dr. Evil.
And I basically told him I'm like, hey, do whatever we can to basically duct tape this thing to where I don't have a lot of flexion kicking up. And because I have to practice like the guy ahead of me is out with an injury.
He's, you know, running stuff on the side like, you you know, he's an undrafted cat and he chose to, you know, do rehab and stuff. Like this is my chance to show stuff.
So he like tapes me up. I'm taking tour at all.
You know, I'm doing the shit that guys, you know, obviously you read bad stuff on that. You don't necessarily, that's not the healthiest route to go.
I'm not saying you, everybody needs to do that. But that's what I chose because the most important thing at that time was making the Redskins, the football team's football team.
And that day I go out there. Fortunately, my mentor flies in that same day.
He's like making sure it just works out that he flies in that day. He's just asking me.
He's like, you know, what do you think? I'm like, there's truly like I have to try and go. And if I can't, I'll just get injured while I'm out there on the field in front of them.
Because right now, they don't necessarily know what happened to me. I kind of didn't say anything.
And then I woke up and it's way worse than it was, than I thought it was. I go out there and have two interceptions and a PBU.
And that day was the most pivotal day for me personally. Because Shanahan comes out to me, Coach Mike Shanahan.
He's like, hey, I'm going to have to start calling you like Mr. Interception.
I get the nod to be the number two that week in preseason I led the preseason that year in tackles like all of my opportunities came to make the practice squad that year and that kind of set me up for the next year because I was on everybody's radar at that point but that was probably my toughest like injury the whole be a fucking wolf mentality thing comes from is, like, that's the moment that I feel like made my career in the NFL. So then how long did you have the torn hamstring for the entire season? Yeah, so the docs, like, I mean, PFT, you might know being around the facilities and stuff, like, you know, you don't get the best treatment.
Washington football team doesn't have the best name in the training room. I was told that it was a strain and I didn't know until the next year from like an outside source.
Cause you start learning, like I started asking vets, like, how do you take care of your body and this and that? And we're using other, we're using other sources to go visit and get, get checked on and get body work done. And that's finding out from another PT, I found out he was like rubbing over this huge scar tissue.
He's like, Hey, do you do you tear your hamstring before? And I was like, No, not that I know. He's like, man, it feels really bad up here.
Like it was at like the bottom of my ass. It's like the worst part to have it.
And that's how I kind of found out I had a torn hamstring. But I was always told I had like a strain and I would just kind of do the whole ice and stem and you know all this stuff the bullshit that they do in the training room nowadays anyway at least it wasn't like a cancerous growth on your scalp they're like oh no it's actually not your hamstring uh we're just not gonna operate on that no doubt dude and hey i'm glad you're like a washington fan because you know a lot of these stories that was pretty fucked up.
But it's fun. Oh, for sure fucked up.
And, you know, I have a story where I was my first year of free agency when I signed with the Titans. Before I went to the Titans, the Bills had just, I think, Preston Brown just signed with the Cincinnati Bengals.
And so the Bills had to avoid a middle linebacker. The Bills called me within like probably 10 minutes to fly out and do a physical.
I actually found out that I had a growth, a white mass growth in a C-spine MRI. And the doc at the Bills was actually saying, hey, we're not talking about football anymore.
Like you need to go get this checked out. That the Redskins, we looked back on stuff and the Washington football team kind of missed my C-spine MRIs because I was getting checked out because of some stinger history.
So that's why I had an MRI up there and the Redskins had missed seeing that white mass in my skull. So I had to, I flew back the Washington football, they took care of me.
Like I know I have, there's some sketchy stories in there, but they also take a, they took very good care of me when I got in and they found out that fortunately it was, uh, it was just a cyst that I had, that I had had for a while, but the neurosurgeon or the neurologist or whatever that does, uh, the brain MRI readings, he thought it was cancerous at first. And that entire night after my bills visit, because we're like, obviously we're not going to offer you because you have this growth that we have no idea what's going on in your brain right now that you need to get checked out fortunately it turned out it was just a cyst but dude going off your story with uh tron williams like it's uh for it to happen twice in the same locker room is not that's not like a ringing endorsement like i'd rather have field surgery in the civil War.
And you pushed back on me when I said Alex Smith's personal physician cleared him.

Yeah, exactly.

That's a good thing.

Yeah, that is a good thing.

Yeah, you should use your personal physician.

I know.

I listened to your guys' episode with Deion.

That was phenomenal.

I had a question about when you get offered to be on the practice squad

or when you get told that they're going to try to put you on the practice squad.

And at that point, you still have to clear waivers, right? You have to go through like any other team can sign you to their active roster. It's obviously not like dejecting, like getting cut, but you're, you're probably not super pumped either.
That's a practice squad. Right.
Or did you have like, did you think that's what was going to happen? Yeah, you're not, you're not super pumped because, so going into the fourth game, a scout had came up to me. It was me I was like hey man you actually you have a shot at making this team like if you just black out and make a couple plays on special teams and I was thinking in my head at the time I was like fuck like I hate special teams and um he was like you got a shot and um unfortunately like I didn't make the team but they call you uh that morning you wake up you understand cut days coming the's coming, the Grim Reaper's coming for you.
You walk in the facility, there's usually the Grim Reapers, the scouts are standing all over the rails, and you're just waiting to be picked off. If you can make it down, it's kind of like walking into a buckle.
If you can make it to the back of the store without being talked to if you need help, if you make it down to the locker room without being asked to bring your iPad to the facility or to the office, you've made it. So I walk in, I get the phone call like, hey, man, we have good news and bad news.
Like, bad news is we're going to cut you. I'm like, okay, I don't know how it goes up from here.
But the good news is we want to bring you back on the practice squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the good news is we want to bring you back on the practice squad if you clear waivers.

I'm like, all right. And so you're kind of in the shuttle with the boys.
Like, all of us are getting cut. You're kind of just sitting there like, what did they tell you? And you're like, oh, we just got a phone call.
Kind of texting your, you know, the people that are in your circle. You're like, hey, I'm fucking, I'm getting cut.
And then I got to clear waivers for 24 hours. But, you know, they say they want to bring me back on the P squad.
and it was nerve-wracking because there was nine of us

all for 24 hours, but, you know, they say they want to bring me back on the P squad. And it was nerve-wracking because there was nine of us on the shuttle, and there's only eight guys who were on the P squad at the time.
Turns out they bring us all. They were trying to sign us all, and they realized they had nine guys, and they ended up having to let one guy go after they told him he made the P squad.
It was devastating, dude. Brutal.
We're all in the room cleared waivers, like guys were like, hey, comp, like you might get picked up. Like you're number three linebacker right now on PFF or whatever.
And I'm like, oh, hell yeah, let's go. Obviously don't get picked up because it doesn't matter that much.
And then so the next day I'm like, okay, we can do B squad. Solid money to practice a few days a week.
And you're just hoping you don't get cut in a few weeks. And so we all get in the room to sign our paperwork.
And somebody comes in, they're like, hey, I don't know if you guys know this, but we can only have eight. And there's nine of you sitting in here.
They're like, my man, I won't say his name. They're like, hey, my man, you got to come with us.
And he like stands up That's the reality show. I love it.
Who's Survivor? Whose job was it to count, though? I feel like that's a pretty basic football operation. Like JPP was in the back of the room trying to figure out how many guys are there and how many get to hang out.
You should know. It should be eight guys, right? That's not that difficult.
Yeah. We understood when we were all sitting there.
We were like, hey, we all all think we're making the practice well but there's nine of us sitting in here so we're all kind of just sitting and waiting but hey pft man you know it's it's that operation it's probably also the number they probably thought one of you guys was gonna get picked up so it's like by someone else possibly but that's 24 hours right yeah but that's 24 hours the next day you're still in the hotel they got to send you a shuttle to bring you over at that time you got to know like the the ninth guy the odd man out you should have already let him know once the waivers happen yeah so now that this year is going to be a little bit different you address this a little bit in your blog but um as an undrafted guy if you only have it looks like what eight or nine eight or nine practices where you're going full speed to show off and show what you have, no preseason games it doesn't look like, how is the evaluation process weighted towards, like, if you do it in a preseason game, does it mean a whole lot more than if you're just super consistent in practice? Or have there guys that you know absolutely sucked in practice but then killed it during like game two and three and they end up making the squad yeah all of those situations like preseason games are definitely weighted for guys that are bubble guys guys that aren't seen that are going to make the team for all those young guys that are trying to fight a spot, preseason games matter because you can ball out in practice and be terrible once you get under the lights in the game. Because when you're out there, coach isn't holding your hand.
The plays aren't scripted for you. You can't go back and watch days before and realize, okay, I'm in run period right now.
They're all going to be runs and maybe one play action pass in my set. So you can't guess.
You can't say, OK, we're in seven on seven. We're in team blitz period.
We're in team third down. Like you're out there trying to think the game as the game's going with tempo.
And coaches want to see you guys execute that without a coach stopping the play, stopping anything. Oh, wait, he needs to fucking tie his shoe.
You're doing it out there and trying to communicate with all the players and you're trying to prove that you can take from the practice field to the game. Also, the opposite happens that you brought up where there might be a slappy in practice where he kind of gets a bad rap out of the gate and he shows out in the game to where eyes get open and coaches might be not forced, but advised to give a little more attention and see if that guy has something to him at practice.
Because he could have had, say he could have gave a bad first impression or done shitty rookie skits and he's just got a tarnished name. But then he balls out in that first preseason game.
Everybody's like, oh, the man can play a little bit. So all of those things happen.
That's why I hate that preseason isn't happening. Like being older, like it's nice that preseason isn't happening.
But for those guys who are trying to make it the way I kind of came in, um, it's going to be fucking hard, man. Yeah.
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So my last question was, this is actually kind of full circle. So I think it was actually the first Grit Week ever we talked to Bo Pelini, who you played for at Nebraska.
So what was the biggest life lesson, grit lesson that Bo instilled in you when you were playing for him in Nebraska oh that's easy dude it's it's his full it's his full mantra it's his creed when he's when he's coaching and leading it's focused on the process compete every day and it sounds stupid it's cliche as fuck but Bo would always say like I am not here to babysit you like you're either like we he had a standard of going to class like teachers would email him notes and he would read them he would read them in the team meeting room and fucking you can only imagine how he is in a team meeting room but he'd be like uh uh Josh uh Moloch and Josh would kind of like pick his head up and he got it he'd say his name wrong'd be like, Josh Moloch. He'd be like, Moloch, sir? He'd be like, stand the fuck up.
And he'd talk about sleeping in class, this and that. He'd fucking chuck a water bottle.
And he would say like, basically, I'm not here to babysit you guys. You're either an all-the-time person or you're none of it.
Like you're not just going to show up on Saturdays and play. You're going to go to class.
You're going to practice. You're going to prepare.
Like everything is all about the process. Like if you live in a results oriented world, you're going to fail because you're going to be moved by external factors all the time.
People are going to label you. You're going to buy into it because all you give a shit about is what results are being said to you and what you're trying to attain and what you might miss out on.
And he's like, it's all about the fucking process. And that was probably the biggest thing Bo instilled in myself.
And I know he carries it for everywhere he coaches. It's focused on the process, compete every day.
And it's funny because he coached Dion in San Francisco. I was listening to your guys' interview with Dion, which is awesome.
He is the best to ever do it. But he had a story about Dion because guys would want to, you know, be swaggy or dance or do stuff in college.
And not that Bo made guys do it his way or the highway, but he would kind of tell stories and bring up examples of somebody like Dion, who he got to coach in San Francisco. one time they were watching film and this guy he messed up on a play and the teammate was like oh don't worry about it I'll get it on Sunday and he said Dion um Bo's words not mine I don't know if Dion actually put him against the wall or grabbed him by the shirt collar but he said Dion told the man that hey you're either going to get it all the time or there's not going to be a

Sunday. You're either going to put it on film all the fucking time,

or you're not going to be out there with us on Sunday.

And he would always say that lesson. And it's,

it's just always stuck with me, dude, because it just,

the world doesn't give a shit what's, what's going on with you. Like you,

I say it in the blog, like you're the one who lives with your stress at night.

Like hopefully,

fortunately everybody gets to have a wife and they kind of take some stress

with them. But even she doesn't know exactly what's going on.

Thank you. log like you're the one who lives with your stress at night like hopefully fortunately everybody gets to have a wife and they kind of take some stress with them but even she doesn't know exactly what's going on at night when you're laying there thinking about what's coming the next day and the day ahead and the sun's gonna rise the next day and you have a fucking choice to either bring that big dick energy or to shell up and let external and let external people and factors move your emotion.
Because when you rely on that, you're just going to fail. I mean, we scroll on Twitter all the time.
You read bad shit about yourself and external shit's moving you, you're going to feel shitty about yourself. But if you know what you're doing and what you're doing.
I'm going to run through a brick wall right now. Hey, you feel me? I'm bringing medium average dick energy, which is huge dick energy for me.
It's great. Yeah, yeah.
I'm doing it what you can't. Hey.
You're giving me fucking podcast. I'm bringing like medium average dick energy, which is huge dick energy for me right now.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not claiming to have it, but that's what I roll with.
But I have to ask with that message, what did Bo, we were texting last night. I happen to be just flipping through the channels and there was a game on the Big Ten Network.
What did Bo say after the Big Ten championship when Wisconsin won 70-31? And hold on. Wisconsin, Kurt Phillips, the starting quarterback for Wisconsin, his stat line, 70 points, PFT.
Guess his stat line. Wait, when you were texting with Bo last night? No, with Will.
Oh, I have no idea. You did say with Will before the show.
Oh, okay. I thought you were texting with Bo.
No, with Will. He played on Nebraska.
You played on Nebraska when they lost to Wisconsin? 70-31 and what was the quarterback for Wisconsin's stat line? I think he probably had a, was it like 21 for 22? He was 6 for 8 for 71 yards and Wisconsin went up 70. How was that possible? Oh, I'll tell you how Eight rushing touchdowns, 539 yards.
Jesus Christ. Hey, dude.
Big Cat was texting me and he's like, hey, I'm like, that game legitimately, like, I know Alec Engold. He played at Wisconsin and he talks about the game.
Like, I try and trip Wisconsin, but truly I never feel good about bringing up Wisconsin's name ever because I am so fucking destroyed about that performance. He's like, Hey, at least Taylor Martinez, he had a solid run in the first quarter trying to make it better.
It doesn't make, it doesn't make it hurt any less dude. What did Bo say after that? Because that has to be like the Bo that you don't want to see.

No, honestly, you didn't see that, Bo, because we got our shit pushed in so bad that I don't think anybody understood what was happening to us at the time.

So when we were in the locker room, it was fucking sad, dude. It was just quiet.
Like, everyone's just quiet. And it's just like, you know, there is not a lot to be said.
I think everybody understood what was at stake. We shit down our leg.
And that's a great example of knowing, like, the sun is going to rise the next day and you have a fucking choice to put that game behind you or, you know, as everybody likes to say, let it define you. But man, that was dark.
That's the worst game I've ever been a part of. And as a middle linebacker, I think I told Big Cat that three running backs might have had over 200 yards.
And everyone alludes to Melvin Gordon having been 400 the next year, which thank God he broke the school record because it kind of took some spotlight away. We don't talk about the three guys that had 220 on you.
From what actually happened the year before, which I was actually like, okay, Nebraska lost, but thank God. We get to kind of be put on the shelf a little bit, but man, that was the worst game I've ever been a part of.
Melvin Gordon had 216 yards on nine carries. On nine carries.
It's such a ridiculous stat line to see 70 points and eight pass attempts and then have Melvin Gordon nine carries 216 yards. Hey, dude, I think I missed a big run.
Like, we fucking suck that game, dude. But I will say,

Bo,

if you listen to this fucking podcast,

I would tell you to your face now,

dude,

that we didn't adjust. And we only call one call in that person.

And now,

now,

now that I'm older and understand the game a little more,

I'm just thinking,

why in the fuck didn't we send pressure off the edge away from,

of a speed sweep guy?

Like we didn't adjust that game. So we take it as a team, yeah i love you i miss you yeah all right well thank you will this has been awesome yeah busting with the boys will compton he was a legend of the uh i think i have you guys ranked as the number four r words team of the last 30 years the uh the nine and seven 2015 red suit that was the you liked that year, right? Yeah, that was a fun year, dude.
You liked that game is when I actually got my first start that year to finish the rest of the season. So big fan of that game.
There you go. I would say that it was more you coming in.
That's what turned the tide and not your cousins yelling at a Comcast sports reporter or whatever. Hey, no doubt.
Hey, PFT, were you even aware? Were you even aware of the boy back in my Washington football days? Yeah, I remember watching you play, and I was like, this guy is actually good. Like, I have no idea where he came from.
You know, every time you get an undrafted free agent from a big school, like a traditional power school, you think in the back of your head, like, this could work. I said that's why I said traditional.

Not a modern power school, but like early 90s power school. You think like, oh, this guy's got something in the tank.
So I remember watching you play, a little undersized, a little gritty. So, yeah, that was a magical season.
Hey, BK, you believe him? No, because he said that he was like, damn, this guy's good. Hey, now we're on the same team, boys.
Yeah, yeah, true. And we love having you on the team.
Hopefully we'll see you soon, man. Do you want to make an announcement real quick, get us some headlines here? Are you going to play this year or are you going to opt out? No, I'm playing this year.
Okay. I respect anybody who wants to opt out, but, you know, I'm trying to get it for another one.
Well, we'll frame it. We'll do a press release.
We'll have Jake Marsh set up a press release. Will Compton officially opting in.
While respecting players who choose to opt out. Yeah, right.
I am officially opting in to the 2020 season. Yes.
My door's open. My phone's open.
Everybody knows where to find me, man. Get your name going in the circle.
We got you, bro. We got you.
Yes. I appreciate you guys.
All right. See you, man.
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let's go over Billy's sheet real quick.

So if you're a reminder, Billy has been tasked with coming up with the hottest things of the day uh and giving it to us before the show we have ufos real who knows everyone knows they're real this is so stupid i'm sick i'm sick of the alien shit just tell us that we know that the aliens exist tom delong proved it Tom DeLonge fromLonge from Blink-182 proved this a year ago. So this is old news by this point.
Aliens came. We didn't care.
You tried news. You tried to get us interested in the fact that aliens have invaded in the past and that we're not alone in the universe, but honestly, it's boring.
They exist. We know that.
You said demon sperm. Billy then said parentheses.
Just say that and don't say anything else. I think that would be a sick name for the Washington football that.
They do. You said Demon Sperm.
Billy then said parentheses.

Just say that and don't say anything else.

I think that would be a sick name for the Washington football team.

Demon Sperm.

The Washington Demon Sperm. That's a really shitty goth-like band name.

Yeah.

Demon Sperm.

Screw the Yellers.

Hot Topic is stocked with those t-shirts.

Demon Sperm.

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Sports Illustrated Supplements. Billy, we've tasked you with coming up with a pmt supplement what do you got well i so sports illustrators make their own supplements honestly their supplements kind of suck really yeah they're basically just kind of like uh kool-aid with caffeine for their pre-workout and just like okay i love by the way that the sports is doing supplements the entire like internet roasts it because like sports illustrated is getting the supplement supplement game and then billy takes the zag on it and he's like listen you have every right to make supplements just don't make shitty ones yeah no that that's the first thing that occurred to billy was i want to see what is actually in these things so it's beta alanine and caffeine in their pre-workout, right? Well, there's not even that much beta alanine.
And they're all propriety blends, which means that they don't actually have to put the amount they say. So what's in our supplement? So if we were to make a, pardon my take, mass gainer, I think we should make a bacon blast whey protein.
First of all, you need to work on the branding.

I like that we're doing a mass gainer, but if it's Barstool, it should absolutely be like Zoomass.

Should be the name of it.

Zoomass gainer.

Zoomass.

Unlock the power of Harambe.

Oh.

So it would just be like bacon bits, whey protein, chocolate, and creatine and austrine.

And that would be an awesome mass gainer. Okay.
Just toss that in there. Like, listen, it's just pretty much like bacon and chocolate and just a little bit of steroids and a little Toradol, and it's fine.
Totally fine. Okay, good, Billy.
Then we got a pre-workout. Okay.
And we call it Not a Drug Guy, pre-workout. And it would just be beta alanine, taurine, sildenafil, and then DMAA and DMHA.
This is the worst spinoff of Breaking Bad. You also had nitrous oxide, right? Yeah, nitrous oxide booster.
And what were the other things in there? Oh, no, it's a nitrous oxide booster, and sildenafil is for a pump. It just gets your veins really dire.
Yeah, but what about the Viagra and meth? Yeah, that's what I was going to do. Sildenafil is the active ingredient in Viagra, but it's sick for pumps.
Okay, it's all right. I'm going to stop you, Billy.
I like where we're at with a mass gainer. I'm on board with that.
It sounds delicious. I like where your head's at with part of my take, Viagra.
That's a good idea. Well, it's a pre-workout.
Yeah, but people just get it. They put it in their kitchen cabinet and they say, like, this is my pre-workout, but it's actually just Viagra.
It's disguised Viagra. And it's called Harden My Take.
Yes. I like that.
All right. So, and then the Barstool Recovery Bar? Yeah, it's just like a protein brownie with Delta 8 THC, CBD.
I like this. So, we take steroids, meth, Viagra and weed.

Yes.

OK.

Good job.

We get jacked.

What do we do to recover from the heart attack?

The Delta A THC.

We contact three.

She'd be like we want to make a protein brownie with some THC just to go to sleep.

We should sleep.

We should actually make a stool softener.

I like this.

Stool softener.

I like this.

Good job, Billy. All right.
You also had bizarre scam as Chinese students in Australia kidnapping themselves. Yeah, basically they're like, you have to pay this fine so kidnap yourself and pretend.
That actually happened when I was at Wisconsin. Her name was Audrey Sealer.
She kidnapped herself. She just went in the woods for like two days.
They found her. No, she came out and then they're like, yeah, why'd you go to home Depot and buy a bunch of rope right before you disappeared? Interesting.
So did she get money? Ransom money? No, I think she just wanted attention. I think she dropped out after that.
Okay. It's kind of cool.
Yeah, it's kind of cool. I mean, if you're, if you're a product of the Chinese one child policy, I imagine that that shoots your value way up in the eyes of your parents.
Yeah? True. Because if you got two kids, and your parents are like, fuck it, I can get rid of that one.
I got to back up in the shed. And now the last one was just Ellen sucks.
Okay. Sure.
Oh, wait. Oh, Mike Tyson.
Mike Tyson joins Shark Week. Again, I think we're out on Shark Week.
Yeah. We're out on Shark Week.
Because they don't kill anyone. Yeah.
Okay. It's lame.
I want death. Okay.
More like Shark Week. Yeah.
We've got to incite violence from the sharks. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Do Stark Week, and it's just shark decapitations. We need something, like, to get the juices flowing.
All right, Hank. Guys on chicks, and then we will see everyone at noon on Wednesday for today for our stream.

And if you're tuning in afternoon, just tune in now because we're probably still live.

Yeah.

I could be dying from heat exhaustion under 24 shirts.

Over under 10 miles for Billy.

He's going to get over because he's going to.

I know Billy.

He's going to burn himself out.

He's going to do like 12 miles in the first two and a half hours.

And he's going to be like, do I have to keep going? Yeah, the calculation is going to be when is Billy bitching at us like untenable and we're just like, you know what? Fuck it, Billy. Will you just quit? Yeah, he's going to fake fall.
That would actually be very funny. Just took that away from him.
Pulled a Neymar. I got an update from the bread boy we'll call him.
Oh yeah. It's me again.
So in the short time that I texted you, and up until now, things have become worse. I was shocked y'all actually read my issue, and my boyfriend, let's just call him Parker, found out through a friend who listens to your show and is now convinced that it's normal because y'all thought it was awesome.
So thanks for that. Yep.
I don't know how these things are supposed to be, but I'm just going to tell y'all everything. I'm just going to tell y'all everything because the bread really isn't even the worst thing.
So like I said, he eats bread with literally everything. It's not like a freaking utensil to him.
He scoops soup with it. Cereal, obviously.
He uses four slices when making a sandwich. Two on top, two on the bottom.
I can't wrap my brain around this. My friends all think it's super gross, especially when we go out to a restaurant and he has to get a couple of bread baskets for himself.
I'm fine with that, for the record.

Like getting the hot bread delivered to your table, getting a restock of that.

As long as you tip well, I think that's an alpha move.

He isn't that overweight, but what worries me is if his metabolism slows down, he's going

to gain a ton of weight.

He doesn't work out and when he isn't working, he mostly plays video games or watches movies.

I love Parker.

He's super funny and is very smart, but I feel like he's going way too far with the

fucking bread. I'm not scared that he hears this because he already knows how I feel and he just shrugs it off.
Always with something like you're overreacting. It's just bread or so what? I fucking love bread.
What are you going to do? Break up with me. I mean, seriously, am I overreacting? I'm officially giving you all final say as to who wins help.
Uh, I don't know what to do. I really don't like it.
if you didn't have a problem with the bread then there's no problem yeah if you're cool with it then it's not an issue but if it's reaching the point where you're embarrassed that you're basically dating a duck in a park then yeah then you need to have a conversation if you can't adapt then it's time to cut i think you just need to just suck it up. There's a lot of bad things in the world.

Eating too much bread is not one of them.

What, Billy?

I have a solution for it.

Yeah.

What she's got to do is she's got to take laxatives and just keep poisoning them with laxatives.

And so he's shitting himself all the time.

Then be like, oh, maybe you've become allergic to gluten.

Gluten free.

And then you convince him he's gluten free.

Ooh.

Okay.

That's how you could do it.

Not a bad one.

By the way, I saw someone tweeting being like, I can't believe you guys thought that was real. I just want to make a PSA real quick.
This goes for the Waffle House guy too, which I've heard maybe not real. I don't give a fuck, okay? We are what? What? What? You think we're just going to get more fake things? That's fine.
I don't give a fuck. If it sounds remotely real, I'm going to read it.
It's like wrestling. Just shut up and let me have a good time.
Don't be the guy on the internet who's like, fake, fake, fake. Shut up.
Yeah, you don't need to snopes check guys on Chick's Question. Correct.
And this girl followed back up. Yeah.
And without anything funny, just being like, no, this is serious. Like, what the fuck do I do? If it's a great tale and it goes on for weeks and weeks and weeks and has plot twists and everything, I'm just watching you know, Real Housewives.
I don't care. It's fake.
I think this girl sounds awesome. The fact that she's just dealing with this.
Yeah. She realizes it's strange.
It becomes a problem when you forget how weird it is. Hey PMT boys, especially you, Honk, and Cat Daddy.
I've recently been getting into arguments with my boyfriend because he has really been making me feel guilty about going out with my girlfriends again.

Last night, he told me that he refuses to get sick because I want to go out and get wasted at a bar.

Now he does everything without me.

He cooks dinner and takes it outside while going for a long walk to avoid eating with me.

He sleeps on the rug in our room because he apparently can't be in the same bed as me.

I've told him countless times that I have other people I want to see.

Is he being a paranoid little bitch or do I need to understand his concern? do i go about this what's his concern getting sick oh she's going and hitting the bars with her gals oh it's coronavirus got it he doesn't want to get sick i just yeah you're kind of being the jerk here yeah just get an antibody test yeah you're so you're going out all the time and then you're like can you believe my bitch boy boyfriend like doesn't want to get coronavirus so but her complaint is that he's hanging out around he's sleeping on the bed or on the floor next to the bed yeah he's just basically staying away from her yeah but if you're going to try to not get coronavirus you want to put a little bit something more than like two feet yeah i just So he's not even doing a good job. Yeah, I'd say you probably should have a talk and be like, hey, maybe I won't do this all the time.
No, I don't think he's being the bitch here. We also asked for suggestions for staying up for 24 hours.
And this person said, for 24-hour grit day, have Kate come on the stream and show you how to make Ranger dip and use hot sauce under the eyes to keep you awake is that like is it like bees and we might want to bring bees back people said that

bees is cool as shit for sure let's get some bees hey pft big cat and future obx star hank

b oh yeah congrats hank thanks i don't know what what for but you're gonna be on our banks too

wait you are i don't think so i think my girlfriend is trying to get on

about it i feel like that's i think you are they can't say no can you invite me

Thank you. I'm in Starbucks too.
Wait, you are? I don't think so. I think my girlfriend is trying to get on.
Rhea's trending about it. I feel like that's...
I think you are. They can't say no.
Can you invite me? Yeah. How mad would you be if Rhea got on and she didn't invite you? Not mad.
I mean, I didn't even like the show that. Little mad.
Anyway, my boyfriend and I recently moved into a one-bedroom apartment, our first place together. Every time I go poop, I turn on the shower so he cannot hear me dude bomb dude bomb he recently asked me when i why i shower in the middle of the day and i have told him that is my midday sanitation to avoid covid the other day i came back from running errands and he was in the shower around noon saying he was joining the midday sanitation idea do i tell him i'm not showering or do i keep it a secret no what happens when we have a covid is a thing of the past and i'm still pooping with the shower on what other alternatives do you two have for me dude bomb you can dude literally dude bomb it he'll never know he walks in right after you and it smells like the dude bomb is is the thing that dude products are selling where you put it in the toilet and it neutralizes all the smells yeah take 10 i think what the think what the boyfriend.
Start doing your hair. The boyfriend probably just saw like, oh, my girlfriend takes a shower every day around noon.
I'm going to do that too so I can crank one out. Yeah, he's jerking off.
He's jerking off. How do I get my boyfriend to suck my toes? Ask him.
Peanut butter. Yep.
Good call, Billy. There it is.
Good call, Billy. How do I get my boyfriend to stop making that slurping noise when he's blowing me i've asked him before because it grossed me out but he must keep forgetting in the moment i don't want to interrupt and kill the mood also you guys should try caffeine caffeine to stay up yeah okay how do i get my boyfriend to stop blowing me no making that slurping noise oh okay's the noise that's an issue.
I suggest just getting earplugs. Peanut butter.
Yeah, peanut butter. Smear peanut butter on your penis.
I mean, this is a weird, weird addition to guys on chest. Smooth, not chunky.
Hi, everyone. In the past month or so, my boyfriend has developed a weird habit of licking me.
All the time. We will hug, and as he pulls away, he will lick the side of my face.
I reach to hold his hand, and he will grab my hand and lick it it. I've told him to stop and that I don't like it, but I think he's doing it without even realizing it.
I get that quarantine is hard, but any advice on how to get this weird habit to stop? I'm tired of feeling like a lollipop and not in the hot way. Not peanut butter.
No, that would be worse, Billy. Yeah, I just fucking mental pretzeled you.
You're like, wait. Or wait.
Yeah, you were going to say peanut butter. Is he allergic to peanut butter? How about no? Because then peanut butter.
Well, how about poisonous peanut butter? Super bitter peanut butter. Oh, yeah.
Spicy peanut butter. All right, well, let's end there.
Or do you have one more? I got one more. Okay.
Let's keep it weird. Hey, sexy cat, PFT, frat boy, hunk, Hank, and big dick Billy.

My boyfriend has started to call me milkmaid.

Anytime he wants to have sex, he says in a child voice he wants his milk,

and he says it until we do it.

That's it.

They didn't even ask a question.

They just.

Fuck yes.

I like that guy. I like it too.

What a nice guy.

My milkmaid.

Do you see there was one of those obviously fake Reddit things going around today where

this girl was like, I date a 19-year-old guy and he gets upset at me because when we fool

around, my nipples don't lactate.

And he thought, the guy thinks that that's when girls come.

They just shoot milk out of their nipples.

Keep going with it.

Keep going.

All right.

That's a very good compliment.

You could be called a lot worse. That's a great nickname.
All right. We'll see everyone on the stream.
Billy, you want to talk to people? Give them a little. You've done a terrible job with this, by the way.
You were supposed to give a speech at the end of every show. So closing thoughts.
Please do it. Love you guys.
Well, honestly, there's aliens, according to the government, but I don't think the aliens come from outer space. I actually think that they come from within the center of the earth.
Because think about it. What's more likely, people or beings traveling from thousands of millions of miles away in different universes to a place with life or a place with life having more life just deeper underground? Because think about it.
There's two sources of heat and energy coming coming to earth it comes from the center of the earth and the sun we live on the surface of the earth so we get energy from the sun and that's how photosynthesis works but there are life forms down in the deepest parts of the ocean that get energy from the center of the earth geothermal energy so it's very plausible that there are beings at the center of the earth that are coming to the surface and those are actually the aliens. What about the UFOs? They fly.
Where do they come from? They come from the center of the earth. How do they fly? Where there's a lot of air.
They come, yeah. They just know how to travel through the water.
Like, people say UFOs sometimes come from the water. Marina Triangle.
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