Grit Week - Deion Sanders, An NYC Garbage Man, And Monday Reading Sequel Waffle House Fight Guy

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On today's Pardon My Take, Grit Week 2020. Weird Grit Week, but Grit Week nonetheless.
We have an awesome interview with Primetime, Deion Sanders. We also have an interview with a real-life sanitation worker, trash guy, garbage man.
So we get the ins and outs of the garbage business, and we also get to talk to Primetime. Pretty much two ends of the spectrum.
Love it. It's going to be great.
We have Who's Back of the Week, a little baseball weekend recap. And then for our Monday reading, we check in with the other side of the week a little baseball weekend recap and then for our monday reading we check in with the other side of the uh where's the waffle house fight the the cook that was making eggs weird fucked up ways from like three or four months ago we get hit we get the story from the guy who was ordering the eggs remember his girlfriend wrote in so his side of the side of the story, it is a must listen to.
Very excited for that. Before we get to all of that, we're going to get right back to the show.
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Today is Monday, July 27th. And welcome to Grit Week.
A little different this year. We obviously can't be going on the road we can't be traveling in vanny we can't be slumming it in malibu with the celebs this year now in our defense so if you are just if you are a new uh awl uh grit week is every single year we've done this every single year we've had the podcast so five years in a row we have gone out it was usually right before memorial day we would go out on the road we do a bunch of interviews we would see a different part of the country uh we've done the south we've done the midwest we've done the west coast so this year obviously with the pandemic we weren't able to go anywhere um we held off as long as we could we were hoping that things would get better to the point where we could get on the road it turns turns out it didn't.
We're going to combine it with a training camp tour that we also do. Yes.
We're going to go to different training camps as they opened up in late July, but it became apparent that wasn't going to happen either. So we're making chicken salad out of chicken shit.
And it's going to be fun. So we have some great interviews this week and on Wednesday starting at noon.
So from noon on Wednesday to noon on Thursdayursday we're going to be doing a 24 hour live stream we're not going to be sleeping stream-a-thon stream-a-thon we have a ton of stuff planned we're going to be raising some money it's as gritty as you can get pft is going to drink 24 beers i'm going to eat 24 hot dogs billy football is going to run a marathon on a treadmill that's just a little taste of everything we're doing we're going to have some celebrity guests we're going to have interviews calling in we're going to have a marathon on a treadmill. That's just a little taste of everything we're doing.
We're going to have some celebrity guests. We're going to have interviews calling in.
We're going to have people that are playing us in video games on the live stream. We've got a little bit of everything.
What's grittier than that? So it is the grittiest way that you can sit on your couch. Pretty much that's what Gritty 2020 is.
We timed it perfectly so it ends right when the NBA games pick back up. Right.
So we're going to try to watch those and probably just fall asleep on our couch correct so uh it we we've adapted it's gonna be a lot of fun we hope that everyone will tune in during it um so that is grit week we're in grit week feel gritty um let's talk we had sports this weekend finally baseball all the way back uh any takeaways other than i saw you tweeting tweeting about this, but the on pace for the 60-game season is going to be electric. It sucks, though, because not as many people are doing the on pace tweets.
It's like the first Robin of spring. In early April, you always get the people who are like, so Bryce Harper's on pace for 350 RBIs.
And I miss those tweets. There aren't as many popping right now because it's not as cool to say, like, oh, Giancarlo Stanton is on pace for 60 steroid-assisted home runs.
Yes. You know, like, it doesn't pop the same way.
But there's still people out there that you're seeing in their native environment that are tweeting that out. And so my hat goes off to you.
Yeah, so I had a few takeaways. The first was we're going to get more fights this year although actually let me let me step back because I don't know how they're going to fight social distancing but there were I was watching the Cubs game on Saturday but I was watching the Cubs game on Saturday might have even been Friday and it got testy and after the game they were interviewing guys in the clubhouse and they're like yeah we can hear literally everything the other team's saying yeah so like when they talk shit we get pissed yeah so it's like a totally new normal where you i think there might be more tempers flaring because you can hear every slight every you know remark that is said in an empty stadium i really want the broadcast to turn off the pumped in crowd noise when there's a manager argument with the umpire because that's the one thing.
I've always wanted to know exactly what gets said in those arguments. We got treated two years ago to my ass is in the jackpot and those types of gold lines.
There was one back when I think it was Sparky Anderson got into a fight with an umpire where they had him mic'd up. That's just so awesome to hear.
I want to hear every single fucking word that is said in those belly-to-belly arguments. Did you see in the Cardinals-Pirates game, the new normal? It is so fucking funny.
The Pirates manager comes out, Shelton. He comes out, and so the ump tosses him.
And they both are angry, and they both pause to put on their masks. And they then stand five feet away from each other and scream at each other.
It's like this is, it's actually a great barrier. Like it's a great way to have a second to be like, okay, am I really mad? What am I mad about? Yeah.
And take a breath and be like, all right, this is what I'm mad about. It's a cool down period.
It's like two boxers get into the ring before they start fighting. They have to put on their masks.
By the way, quick timeout. We're in the middle of the fourth quarter of our team, the Water Dogs, playing the Atlas.
And Judas Football is rooting for the fucking Atlas for some reason because he's a fucking loser. Billy, I still don't understand why you sat in this owner's suite of ours and you're like, I'm going to root for the Atlas today.
Well, I think the Atlas have a lot of veterans with a lot of experience. No, they're an international team.

You said it yourself.

It's basically Team USA from a couple years ago, right?

So they're too used to playing the international game.

No, it's Paul Rabel Anthony.

It's Carmelo Anthony.

You wrote that they have basically LeBron James,

Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh of lacrosse on one team.

Yes, and I get to pick wherever my allegiances are.

Shit, they just tied it up.

And they tied it up.

All right, we're falling apart.

That's fine. Whatever, the Water Dogs have the best jerseys in the game.
All right, so other baseball thoughts I had. So teams fighting, obviously the manager and the umps fighting with the masks on, the cardboard cutouts getting domed, which we mentioned on Friday.
That happened. It was awesome.
The dog took a shot. There was another one

where a home run just cut a kid's

head off. They need to keep those up

though. It needs to be just complete

of a graveyard

at the end of the season. Don't repair them.
Show us

how dangerous it is to really attend a baseball

game. Right.
And then they have

the sad mascots, which I can't get enough

of. There's mascots in the

stands and it's so funny

seeing mascots with no one around them

just being as sad as possible. It's also funny watching the game develop and figure out what works on TV and what doesn't work in this new normal.
So they had the computer-generated fans. Awful.
Which were hilarious. It was N64 graphics.
Yeah, where they didn't do any rendering whatsoever on the people on the set. They should actually...
There should be a video game that just concentrates the most about making the fans look as realistic as possible. Use that technology for this.
That'd be sick to have what would appear to be an actual crowd that's all fake. So instead of Madden, it would be just Madden for fans? It would be just fans.
You don't get to play the game. You just get to go to the game? You get to attend the game.
Right. And get into a fight maybe.
Yeah. Right? Yes.
This week we got the Chargers. Yeah.
How many beers can you drink in an hour? We're going to the black hole. Yeah.
You're at an Eagles game. Can you throw up on the person in front of you if they're cheering for the wrong team? Yeah.
Block the battery or run from it from it. It's Santa Claus.
You've got a slingshot. I like that.
You power up in Buffalo going through a table. Yes, it'd be sick.
Your health is low. Go through a table to re-energize.
Yeah, NFL fan 2K20. That'd be a sick game.
Someone write that game. Someone write that game.
But yeah, so the mascots are sad the the digital fans are weird i actually like i like a low level of the crowd noise the piped in crowd noise not too much but just kind of that low murmur that you hear at a baseball game that's soothing to have it's nice yeah like when you're watching uh the champions league and they have they have that low yeah right low murmur down pat low, yeah, right. They've got the low murmur down pat.

It doesn't need to be too much.

They throw a chant in at some point, which, by the way,

watching a little football this week in football reminded me that when we did

our Mount Rushmore of stadium pump-up songs, nobody took the ole, ole, ole song.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

That's the international chant.

Yes, yes.

But, yeah, I think that it's preseason or it's the start of the season for the behind the scenes you know graphics guys to the behind the scenes sound guys so they'll learn how to hit the home run button and make the crowd like gradually start cheering and stop eventually right so uh that was baseball in uh nba they're not ready yet it's coming next week we're excited they've actually had some uhseason games, which look good. But the big story was Lou Williams and the strip club incident, which so fucking funny.
And so this league because Lou Williams, he left the bubble for, I think his grandfather passed away. And then he was, someone took a picture.
One of his friends took a picture. A rapper, Jack Harlow, took a picture with Lou Williams in Magic City, the strip club in Atlanta, immediately deleted it and then had the excuse when everyone was like, wait, Lou Williams is in a strip club.
He said, I was just reminiscing because I miss him. Yeah.
Meanwhile, old time. Meanwhile, picture they were wearing.
Lou Williams was wearing the face mask that they gave out... The NBA gave out in the bubble.
No, it's an old picture, big cat. I stand with Lou.
By the way, if we're going to blame anybody for this, I'm absolutely blaming Jack Harlow. Yeah.
This is your fault, man. You should not...
First of all, you're not allowed to take pictures in strip clubs. That's rule number one of any strip club that you've ever been to in your life.
Correct. It's like no cameras at any time.

That's one.

Number two, don't take a picture of your buddy in a strip club when you know that he's not allowed to be in there. Right.
Number three, at least have his back when he's like, I was just picking up food, which I totally empathize with because some strip clubs have wonderful food. Jaguars in Dallas, Texas had one of the best breakfast buffets I've ever been to in my life.
And let me tell you something. Like Lou Williams, he might have been there for the strippers,

but he has had a history of saying that Magic City in Atlanta is his favorite food. They're famous for their wings.
There are years and years and years of tweets, like 10 years of tweets of people asking Lou Williams, like, what's your favorite spot? And he says Magic City every time. Yeah.
So I believe him. I just love the idea of, like, tweeting out a picture and then just being like, I just I was just tweet.
I was just Instagram story because I miss him. Yeah.
Reminiscing my old buddy. Yeah.
And listen, simpler times. I put on Green Day.
I blame two people. I blame one Jack Harlow and then two.
I blame Silver. Because Adam Silver should have a strip club inside the bubble.

There should be a strip club.

Yes, absolutely. These are NBA players with needs, and that among these are casual lap dances

and delicious lemon pepper barbecue wings.

Yes.

Which, by the way, I never thought that lemon pepper barbecue would be a good combination

until I tried it.

It's outstanding.

Delicious.

Yes.

Billy.

You forgot the part where Lou Williams has wings named after him.

Yeah, he does.

At Magic City?

Yes.

They're called the Lou Will Lemon Pepper Barbecue.

Oh, my God. good combination until i tried it it's outstanding delicious yes billy you forgot the part where lou williams has wings named after him yeah magic city yeah look they're called the lemon pepper dude he's totally off the hook now i'm gonna read a couple of these other flavors of wings that they have there uh uncle jeff honey jerk that i'd buy right away juju rude boy jerk okay uh i don't know about that justice magic sounds pretty sweet and then they got the the standard uh hot naked i go the wings are describing i would go dancers i go uncle jeff honey jerk uncle jeff honey jerk sounds like a good call there's got to be a special recipe in that juju rude boy jerk i don't know it seems like you might be getting into like a little hazing situation there if you know what i'm saying hilarious story.
And then the only other thing, which was kind of a big thing, Jamal Adams finally got traded, spoken into existence, traded to the Seahawks. I actually love this trade for the Jets.
Is it weird to say that they... The safety position is...
Jamal Adams is a great player. Yeah.
But to give up... What did they end up giving up? A first round and a, what was it? What was the final trade haul? The final trade haul, I believe, was like, they got two first round picks, a fourth round pick.
That's so much. Yeah, it's a lot for safety.
It's a win-win as far as trades in the NFL go because one, they get rid of a player who was not happy there, didn't want to be there in the long term. And two, the Jets get players that can't be called busts for at least another three years.
Right. They just like punted on their future and they're like, okay, you can't accuse us of blowing this draft pick until we actually take the guy.
So it's Jamal Adams and a fourth round pick to Seattle in exchange for Bradley McDougal, first round pick in 2021, third round pick in 2021, first round pick in 2022. That's a fucking haul.
Like the Jets, that's a great deal for the Jets. Because especially because they lost, they traded up for Sam Darnold and they've lost a little draft capital.
So now they get it back. I love that move for them.
The only danger in giving the Jets so many first round they've got they've got first round picks that they can kind of take a flyer on yeah so they can get a little fast and loose with one of these guys and like pick a pick a slot guy out of a division one double a school that just jumps off the charts with his measurables in the first round be like well we've got a couple to burn through so right we can take a chance and the jets when they're feeling frisky like they can take chances that's dangerous position for them to be in. The Seahawks also are one of those teams that whenever they add, oh, now we're down? God damn it.
Fuck the Atlas. 11-10, a minute left.
The Seahawks are one of those teams that because of their history, the minute they add a defensive player, you're like, oh shit, this isn't unfair. They're going to be so sick.
Like when the Ravens add Earl Thomas, you're like, this isn't fair. Yeah, with the Seahawks, I automatically just assume that Earl Thomas is still there.
Richard Sherman's still there. Right.
Oh, they blew it. And you're like, damn, the Steelers are like, just when you add a defensive player to a defensive team, you're like, this is not fair.
I just thought of this. They should call their secondary the capitol hill autonomous zone coverage oh i like that chas yeah so um that was a big story i don't know levy on bell was not he was like fuck that yeah levy on bell he's he's pissed off at let me get this straight he's mad at jamal adams for forcing a trade yeah out of correct team that he did not feel respected long term for.
Got it. I stand with Le'Veon Bell.
Yeah. People do all the hooting and hollering to get you brought in just to leave.
Oh, like people weird, yo. The internet got these dudes doing whatever for attention, even when they tell you shit they don't believe themselves.
That was Le'Veon Bell. So maybe I guess he's saying that because Jamal Adams tried to get Le'Veon Bell quartered him, now he feels betrayed.
I don't know. It's tough.
Yeah. Tough for Le'Veon Bell.
Did Jamal Adams make a mixtape announcing where he was going to go? No. Remember, that feels like that was forever ago.
All the NFL journalists staying up until midnight trying to figure out how to find Le'Veon Bell's mixtape. Yes.
And then listening to every track and transcribing it, trying to piece together the equation. Yeah.
By the way, I think we should fire our coach. Just straight up, you can't have a loss like that.
It's zero goals in the last 18 minutes. Zero goals in the last 18 minutes? We took our foot off the gas.
It's unacceptable. I'm not saying fire the coach.
What's the coach's name? Andy Copeland. Andy Copeland what was the copeland dude we were up how much in hot seat they were up eight six at a half and scored two goals in the second half eight six most dangerous leading lacrosse

everyone damn it that sucks do you think the atli are gonna make uh like six eight box score t-shirts

how do you lose that game how do you lose that game i want andy copeland i want to call him right

now he should be on the hot seat the atlas shouldn't have let you in the game shut up billy

Thank you. you lose that game how do you lose that game i want andy copeland i want to call him right now he should be on the hot seat the atlas shouldn't have let you in the game shut up billy i fucking hate that you root for the atlas all right let's get to our um who's back of the week grit week 2020 is here and while it may be a little different this year our friends at bud light want to help it keep it special that's why we are giving away a custom grit week fridge just like the one we have in studio it's a sick beer fridge with our logo on the side for uh four football guys only on the front so we're giving one of those away uh all you have to do to enter is tweet hashtag grit fridge and hashtag sweepstakes on twitter again tweet hashtag grit fridge and hashtag sweepstakes to enter.
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It's a great fridge. I can't believe the Water Dogs lost.

I mean, it's a choke job.

We lost, though.

The Atlas didn't win.

I don't want the Atlas to get points for this.

We should just get negative.

God damn it.

God damn it.

All right, Hank, you're who's back of the week.

Who's back of the week is the Mets.

Oh.

We talked about it in the beginning of the show.

No, they're one strike away from winning their first game. 3-2 lead.
Blew the save, blew the lead, blew the game. And it was just good.
Like Saturday night, all the Mets fans, I was at. Wait, I thought they won on Friday, though.
Or whatever. They won on Friday.
They were about to have a winning streak. It was their first blown game of the season.
It's just good. It's just one of those things.
We're talking about the return of sports, everything. It's just like the more and more things like this happening,

the more and more everything feels normal.

How was Jose Cespedes, Hank?

He was fine.

He was fine.

He was good.

Ed Luz Diaz.

Ed Luz Diaz.

He blew the save and he was smiling.

Mets fans were not happy about that.

Oh, no.

It does feel the nature is healing tweets. Like, when Mets fans just start having meltdowns on Twitter, it does feel like, oh, my God.
Like Frank the Tank, who is a co-worker of ours, saying the season's over after game two and predicting 10-game losing streak after that one. It just is like, oh.
It's like slipping into a nice warm bath. That would be a great level in the Madden fan simulator to be a Mets fan.
It's a side quest. You give up on the Jets.
You become Fireman Ed. You quit the Jets for a season, turn to the Mets, and then go right back.
And watch them just punch you in the dick every single day. All right.
Is that it? All right. Great.
Good job. Thanks.
Good job, Hank. Thanks.
Good job, Hank. Thanks.
My Who's Back of the Week is Alex Smith. Oh, yeah.
Alex Smith, his personal doctor cleared him to resume football activities, which I don't think any personal doctor should ever clear you to be like, hey, go out there and just play football. That doesn't seem like something that a family physician would do.
Would you think he should use the Redskins doctor? Sorry, the Washington football team doctor?

The Washington football team.

I'd say the personal doctor is much, much more trusted than that.

Well, so now he still has to get cleared by the Washington football team doctor to play.

But it just dawned on me a second ago that what doctor is like, you should go play football.

Right.

That'll be good for you.

I actually, though, think that he probably, like that doctor is now sending him to the Simpsons doctor Nick. Yeah, go should go play football.
Right. That'll be good for you.
I actually, though, think that he probably, like, that doctor is now sending him to, like, you know, the Simpsons' Dr. Nick.
Yeah, go get cleared by the Washington team. But, I mean, good for Alex Smith.
Like, I'm excited for him because, like, he obviously almost lost his leg a couple years ago. I just don't think that playing on that field in Rauldron, Maryland, is going to be a good thing for his leg.
I don't know. I i'd like to see him succeed somewhere and i think he's one of those guys that is probably going to be a quarterback coach probably an offensive coordinator eventually he's got a shitload of money and he's like the greatest backup quarterback of all time like he will coach up a guy that he's in the room with like a younger guy that's there with him so he's also part of one of my favorite trivia questions of all time uh is it the one where he didn't throw a touchdown pass to a wide receiver for like a year and a half no it's what uh college has the only has the only number one pick in football and basketball oh okay who was it in it was in the same year i think who was in basketball andrew bogut oh crazy yeah pretty fun right that is a very fun trivia i think it was the same.
I think it's what's college in the same year had the first round pick. Yeah, 2005.
Was that Alex Smith as well? I believe so. I believe so, yeah.
So that's a fun little trivia for you guys. But another fun trivia fact is I think it was like 17 weeks in a row of NFL football that Alex Smith did not complete a touchdown pass to a wide receiver.
Yes, that was also fun. Yeah, the trivia question is,

what team had the number one pick in football and basketball?

Only one team ever.

Yeah, so I hope Alex Smith does good.

I don't know where he's going to end up landing.

I don't know if he's going to actually play football this year,

but I'm glad that he didn't have to have his leg amputated at least.

Now it seems like he's recovered, so that's cool.

Big time.

All right, my who's back of the week is Tom Thibodeau.

He is back.

Tibbs is back. He's got his five-year deal, I think, with the Knicks has been finalized.
This is going to not work. Nothing screams New York City like Tom Thibodeau.
Dude, he didn't trust the ownership and GM in Chicago, thought they were bugging his office, and everything fell apart, and now he's going to go work for James Dolan. Yeah.
I guarantee you Tibbs decides just to like, he lives in Staten Island, takes the ferry over every day. He's him versus the media.
It's going to be great. I mean, good news for him is I think like half the Knicks rosters, old bulls castaways.
So I think he can probably just cobble together a team, but it's just, that is, that's not going to work. Tibbs always struck me as a coach that is really, really good at getting the most out of mediocre talent and really, really bad at getting anything remotely good out of excellent talent.
Well, he's just he's he's all gas, no brakes. So, you know, game 20 is the same as the second round in the playoffs.
And let's just say load management has become a phenomenon in the NBA. And Tibbs does not understand that.
He doesn't get that. I would hire Tibbs in a second to coach the Water Dogs, or at least to coach our coach on the Water Dogs.
Yeah, I mean, shh. Fucking Water Dogs, dude.
Just took your foot off the gas in the second half. Fuck that guy.
You got to stay aggressive. Score, shoot.
He's out. I'm firing him.
We're firing him. And then my other who's back is Ryan Pace and his draft pick.
So he traded Adam Shaheen, who was the 45th overall pick, second rounder in 2017 for a sixth rounder. So that's a good asset management.
Good haul. Yeah.
Inflation. Great haul.
But you guys only have, what, 10 tight ends now? Yeah. We're starting to get depleted.
That's an issue. We'll see what happens.
Did he not have the depth chart in front of him? I don't know. It's just, you know, it's always good to make sure that you – it's kind of Belichickian of Ryan Pace to just keep trading guys for picks, even though the value just makes no sense.
I remember when he was drafted, there was a lot of talk in Chicago because that was the Mitch draft, obviously draft obviously that ryan pace went out and got his drew breeze and jimmy graham okay so well in a way it is the ryan pace version of a drew breeze and a jimmy i remember reading that article it's like he understands his time in uh new orleans he understands needing a big tight end and a great quarterback it's like fuck yes we're ready to roll did you see the most hilarious sabermetrics of our lifetime over the weekend somebody somebody dm this to me oh mitch trubisky has by far the highest quarterback rating in the nfl when it's exactly 66 degrees 66 degrees so the dome bears fan or better yet just like go outside and light styrofoam on fire or better yet. Why doesn't Ryan Pace fucking package that shit up and trade him for a first rounder to a dome team to a dome team.
Or I'm telling you like people in Chicago, just, just make your city warmer, raise a bunch of cattle and farting all the time. Let's increase the methane gas.
If it's exactly 66, Let's just remember that week like 5, 4.

Yeah.

That's perfect timing.

But that's not fair weather.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

That's probably the only chance you get.

I'm absolutely going to open up my weather app every single Sunday morning.

And if it's 66, I'm unloading on Mitchell Trubisky.

You need the clock on the field, though.

Yeah.

I need a giant thermometer.

Now, do you think it's because he likes that temperature? Or do think like there's something in his head when he sees that at 66 no he feels good i think um we we just like we've been in this pandemic for so long that someone just dug so deep into stats that they finally found something it's probably like a late october game against the dolphins someone searched every single. Oh, you know what it might have been? There was a – I bet you I was at the game against the Bucs.
They – was I at the – I might not have been at the game. The Bucs, they put up – I think Mitch threw six touchdowns, and it was right around like weeks five or six.
That had to have been it. That had to have been it.
It was probably that game. That's Mitch Weather, baby.

Alright, Billy, who's back?

My who's back of the week. This is

impersonation. That bitch,

Carol Baskins.

Who's back? Frank Caliendo.

That's awesome. Great job, dude.

Tried. Anyway.
You did.

Carol Baskins was awarded the Tiger King

Joe Exotic's former zoo

in Oklahoma. So Carol Baskins sued Joe Exotic, his company, his mother.

I thought it was in Ohio.

No.

The zoo?

Oklahoma.

Oklahoma.

Anyway, so she's getting the zoo.

She won the long game.

Okay.

She played the long game and won.

She came out on top?

Yeah.

Her and her simp husband?

Her and her simp husband. Remember Tiger King? She is now the Tiger Queen.
Okay. She won.
There you go. Billy, by the way, we'll do it after the interviews.
Because after the interviews, we had the Monday reading. But we'll also just recap Billy's sheet, which is fantastic.
Let's get, though, to our interviews. We have Deion Sanders.
And then we have a sanitation worker from New York City asking what it's like to be a garbage man, grit week.

So let's do it before we get to that, though.

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Okay, here he is. Primetime.
Ooh! Okay, we now welcome on a very very special guest. It is NFL Hall of Famer.
Two-time Super Bowl champion. You know him as Primetime.
It is Deion Sanders. Should we call you prime time or Deion? Which one? You guys are friends.
Okay. All right.
So prime, my first question, and we just saw you sprint down the hallway because you said, can I get 60 seconds? I think you took about 45 of the 60. You are one of the few athletes in the world where I don't care what age you are.
I assume that if you put on the pads or grab the bat, you could make a NFL or MLB team today. Do you think that that's true? Or am I maybe exaggerating your skills? That is true.
but I would have to play a limited role.

I know me. I got to set myself up for a situation to succeed and not to fail.

But that is true.

What would that limited role be?

I could play nickel at a free safety in football.

In baseball, I could pinch run.

I could pinch run.

I could get in late, drop you down a bunt, a third, beat it out.

I could play a limited role.

I'm assuming that you've seen the video that came out yesterday of T.O.

and Tyreek Hill running a 100-yard dash against each other,

and then they ran the 40.

Yeah.

T.O., I think he's 46 years old.

Yeah, T.O. looks good.

He looks pretty good for a 46-year-old.

The muscles on his back is just insane. I've never seen that on even a statue.
But he ran the 40 right afterwards. I think he ran it about 4, 4, 5.
My question is, do you think that you could outrun T.O. right now? I'd get T.O.
We're talking about a 40. I'd get T.O.
Okay. Okay.
How fast do you think you'd run it in? I call it NM speed. Next man.
I'm just going to run next man. I'm just going to be the next man.
If the next man is a 4'6", I'm going to be a 4'5". If the next man 4'5", I'm coming in at 4'4".
Okay. One step better than the next man.
Okay. So your incredible career, you won two Super Bowl titles, you played in a World Series, you played two-sport athlete.
Doesn't happen anymore, really, at all. Obviously, growing up, you knew you were an unbelievable athlete, but was there a moment where you're like, holy shit, I am so much better than everyone uh yeah when i came out the womb no no man when i was a kid growing up in fort myers man playing three sports football baseball basketball i knew i had it but not just knowing was enough because i didn't want to settle with mediocrity even Even back then I wanted to dominate, man.
I wanted the high step.

I wanted to, I was dancing in 74.

So dancing in NFL in 89 was nothing new to me. I've been dancing.

I've been celebrating. I've been having a good time, baseball, football,

basketball. I was all stayed in that.
I mean,

so understanding the gift is one thing,

but working your butt off to enhance the gift and to take the gift to another level, that was everything for me. Okay, so let me re-ask the question a little bit of a different way.
At what point in your career did you know that you had to put in more work and you couldn't get by just on that natural gift? Just seeing my mama work, man. I saw my mama work two jobs, predominantly my whole childhood, and just that make ends meet.
So I picked up the work ethic from what I saw, and I picked up the game and the hustle part of it from my biological father, and I picked up the consistency of getting up, putting on the uniform and going to work, like putting on a suit, putting on a football, baseball, basketball uniform for my stepfather. So that's where you got to be careful what you do around your kids.
I picked up those little things, and at seven years old, man, true story, seven years old, I told my mama, you know what, I'm going to be rich one day. I'm going to make a lot of money.
And you ain't going to never have to work another day in your life. And she said, for real, go get that lawnmower and cut that garage right now though you know for the time so you get a true story seven years old you get to Florida State and you're one of the best athletes on campus immediately I think you started as a freshman right on the football team so was there a point when either you had to sit down and look yourself in the mirror or coach Bowden had to talk to you and say now's the time where you need to step up the next level like this is no longer high school football it's a little bit more difficult no because I came to Florida State to change the game to change the way the game was played I mean I've always thought like that I I remember my first few games, I was rotating.

It was a three-corner rotation.

You know, these two start.

I come in the next series, then the other guys sit down, and we rotate it.

And then one time, those two guys went out to one of the sporting goods stores

and bought themselves towels and wristbands with their numbers on them,

and they didn't tell me.

So I remember them warming up for the game. I said, oh, that's nice.
Y'all didn't tell me, huh? They say, my bad. I said, you know what? I'm starting, and I ain't coming out.
How about that? There you go. There you go.
So in college. That's when I started, and then come out again.
Yeah. In college, Bobby Bowden, I think, is one of the most underrated coaches.
What made him so special? I mean, there's something, I can't remember the exact stat, but it's something like 10 years in a row where Florida State finished in the top five, which is just like, it's almost impossible how good he was for how long it was. I think it was more than that.
But what made him so special? Coach Bowden was a wonderful human being, very personable, very spiritual. He's like a father being away from home that we all need, especially in the African-American community.
But he had a staff that was unbelievable. If you do the history on Florida State, Florida State didn't fall off a little bit until all those staff guys started leaving.
Chuck Amato went to North Carolina State, I believe. Mark Rick went to Georgia.
This guy went to that place, South Carolina. This guy went here.
This guy went there. And that's when things start going south.
But until those guys start departing, he had

a staff that was unbelievable that

could recruit his butt off and then

develop players like no other.

Led by my defensive back coach,

Mickey Andrews. Florida State has put more guys

in post defensively than anything.

Offensive guys have been good, but not

like the defense.

Yeah, I just looked it up. So to put it

into perspective, Bobby Bowden had a

14-year stretch where the Florida State Seminole Thank you. Offensive guys have been good, but not like the defense.
Yeah, I just looked it up.

So, to put it into perspective, Bobby Bowden had a 14-year stretch

where the Florida State Seminoles finished in the top five.

Nick Saban in the Alabama Crimson Tide, who have been –

you know, you could say Nick Saban's run right now

is probably the best run in college football history.

Yeah.

He still – they had – in 2013, they finished 7-8 in the two polls. Last year, they finished eight and eight.
Like, you know, eight – ranked eight in the coaches, eight in the AP. So, they only went four years in a row where they – five years in a row where they finished in the top five.
Fourteen years in a row where they finished in the top five. That's insane.
That's insane, but you got to understand Coach Saban loses his staff, what, every two years? True, true. I'm talking about the whole staff, not just the OCDC.
He loses everybody, and then he has a tree that's phenomenal. That's the difference.
Yeah. Did he ever give you any shit about your dancing, some of the high-stepping that you do? Because Bobby seems like he's an old-school type of guy.
I didn't dance in college whatsoever. But you got to understand, when you're the hardest worker, what are they going to say? When you're the first one on the field, last one in the league, what are they going to say? When you're playing two sports and you're coming over to practice in between your two sports that you're playing on the college campus, what are they going to say? So tell me a little bit about being the hardest worker, because we talked to Jerry Rice here, what, maybe six months ago.
He told us about racing that horse down in Mississippi. I forget the horse's name.
But what was your workout regimen like where you would put in more effort than everybody else? I just wanted to be the greatest ever, man. I want to be the best ever.
I didn't want to be the best. And I've never heard about that race with Jerry Rice and that horse.
And how can a human be the horse? But that's a whole other story. We'll go back to that later.
But the work ethic was unbelievable because I just wanted to be the best ever, man. That's just who I was.
That's how I got down. And I'm still that way right now.
I mean, I'm going to get up in the morning and work out and do my thing, even to this day. That's why my kids have a work ethic, because they see their father's work ethic.
When I get off this call with you guys i'm gonna get on that lawnmower cutting this grass like no other because of my work ethic yes so uh you have probably the most swag of any athlete ever it's up there you're in the mount rushmore right that is true yes i know no i'm not in the mount rushmore i am the mount rush Mount Rushmore. That's fair.
You are the Mount Rushmore. You personify swag.
Was there ever a time, though, when maybe you were talking about yourself in the third person just wearing ridiculous, awesome clothing, like in a limo or something, you just broke character, and you're like, what the fuck is this? Like, this is crazy. No, no, no.
uh no because most of my stuff was premeditated like most of my stuff was choreographed most of my stuff i knew what i was after i was always thinking one or two steps ahead of the media and whatever happened i wish it would have been a model of time like this where we had social media where i didn't have to manipulate the media and they didn't have to try to manipulate me and shoot me back. Once I told them I was great and they caught on to it three years later, but they wanted to tear me down before then it was, it was a fun.
It was a fun time, but never did I have one of those moments that I had to really look in the mirror and say, eh, that wasn't right. Well, it's not,.
No, it was never not right. But I'm looking at a picture right now.
It is the epitome of swag. You have a dollar sign earring.
You're on a phone. You have the gold sunglasses.
You have about 16 chains on you. You're wearing a jumpsuit.
Sweatsuit. That was draft day.
That was draft day. It's incredible.
It's so fucking cool. What am I supposed to wear to draft day? Some overalls? Some Dickie House shoes? What am I supposed to wear? Draft day is the epitome.
Draft day is like the country music awards for a country guy. What i supposed to do if i'm whaling jenny's what am i supposed to do i'm actually happy you answered it that way because it actually confirmed what i thought is that it's effortless like cool and you are that cool and then it comes across as like hey this is what it is because i know like when we when we'll do videos or something and we'll put on a bunch of jewelry or do it like, this is ridiculous.
Like we look ridiculous. Let me give you the method behind the madness of that day.
And that time that was, uh, 88. My hometown, Fort Myers, Florida was during the crack capital of the country.
In that time, everybody that was looked up to back then, it was not the athletes. It was the drug dealers.
It was the hustlers. I wanted to show everybody in that state, hey, man, you can live a good life, play this ball, get your education, go to college, and you can do it without hustling with the risk of going to jail for the rest of your life.
So that's where the jury came in. The girls, that's what the girls wanted to see.
And that's what the guys respected. And the earrings and insinuating, man, I'm doing my thing and I'm making money just like you guys.
I just ain't hiding from the police. So that was a whole message behind the madness.
But oftentimes you never get to the right because you magnify the madness yeah yeah it's an unbelievable picture i mean it is the coolest it's one of the coolest pictures you can come up with especially drafting you are i mean it is the the the dollar the dollar bill uh the dollar sign earring is so fucking badass the draft day it's time to go from obscurity to notoriety it is instantaneously when i get this phone call being broke is over okay yeah mom we have made it go to your job and i want you i don't condone profanity but go cuss everybody out that ever gave you a problem at lee memorial hospital okay we're good. You don't have to go back.

You do not have to go back, mom.

Did she take that advice?

Did she go in and test people out?

If you know my mom, she did.

I love it.

How long did it take for her to quit her job at that point?

Immediately.

I love it.

That's such a good gift to give to a parent,

one that's put in work over the years

and kind of gone out of their way to help you achieve something, and immediately saying you're done you're done this is you've won but guess what the gift is the gift is maintaining it that's why the stuff that i pre spoke about the work ethic and all that the consistency that's when that comes because a lot of guys have done that but mama had to go back to work because you're gonna handle your business properly mama ain't worked since man uh when was the last time you doubted yourself the other day when i shaved i said you know what that great beard really looked good i don't know if you should have took it off it did look good you screwed up i like it was i mean me but i could grow it week. That's the thing about it.
I could grow a beard back in a week. So I doubted myself just two days ago.
Okay, but with an important thing, whether it be in the business world or whether it be broadcasting or athletically, when was the last time that Prime Time looked in the mirror and said, Prime, I don't know. I don't know if you got it today.
Probably call him a play in the high school football game like like we we lost for the first time in two years this past season on on uh espn and we won three straight three straight state titles and we're in overtime and i called a play on fourth down that i doubt I should have went with something else. But the snap was on the ground, and it killed me.
Like, it was a bad snap. So my son, which is the quarterback, had to drop his head, take his eye off the coverage, pick the ball above the ground, reset, and try to make it happen.
And we had two bad snaps in a row, third and fourth down, and we lost. Should have called a draw like Freddie Gitchis.
I doubted that call. Yeah.
What was the play call? I don't recall it now, but I think it was a double in, quarter, high, low, backside, double in on this side. We needed this fourth and eight.
We needed eight. It didn't make it happen.
It's 2 o'clock. Shoot.
It's 2 o'clock right now. Yeah, I don't know what that was.

Does your computer tell you every hour on the hour what time it is?

Yeah.

Why does it say, like, hey, Prime?

I didn't say that.

I'm not really computer literate.

So my kids do all this stuff.

That's why I got to live a good, clean life,

because they have access to everything.

I don't know too much about computers or phones or anything like that.

So, Prime, you've played on some of the best teams of all time. I'm not just talking about football because, obviously, you played on the 49ers, you played on the Cowboys, you played on that Ravens defense.
But also in baseball, you played on the mid-'90s Braves, you played on the Yankees. What was the best sports team that you've ever played on best as

in fun or best as in talent both fun was Atlanta Atlanta Braves or Falcons yeah you can't get no more fun Jerry Glanville is the coach everything is everything that was fun we got a butt kick but we had fun. Talent-wise, probably the 94-49ers.
I think we had the number one defense and offense in the league. Steve Young was fantastic.
I did my thing on the defensive side of the ball. I think he was the MVP of the league offensively.
I may be mistaken, but I think he was. And I had that acclaim on defense, and it was just – it was stealing.
It was just straight stealing just to know you got an offense that's going to score 30 or 40, and you just got to sit in the rocking chair the whole fourth quarter because the other team is trying to catch up. Did you guys start partying at all on the sideline in that Super Bowl? No, no.
We knew we were going to win. It was nothing.
Yeah, you were up like 50 in the third, fourth quarter. We knew we were going to win before the game even started.
Did you have a sip, though? Maybe pop a bottle on the sideline real quick? First of all, I've never tasted alcohol in my life, so I wouldn't do that. Second of all, those guys was very straight-placed, man.
They were like, go click click in the time you remember the old time clock you put the card in and it did that they were like that so when i came i had to open that thing up and like guys let's have a fun come on man so i was taking them out to the club i was taking them to party i was taking them to do the dog thing with a little relaxed atmosphere they were workaholicsaholics at that time that didn't know how to play. I don't mind working, but you got to play too.
So you have one of the greatest quotes of all time too. What is that? If you look good, you feel good.
If you feel good, you play good. If you play good, you pay good.
You knew what I was going to say. You just wanted me to say it.
That was way back in college. I came up with that in college.
But but do you like what what was when did you come up with it and when you came out the first time you're like oh my god that's fucking genius because it's true like like in college everything like I said was premeditated because this agent made a mistake in my sophomore year and gave me a pamphlet of how much everybody made at At that point in time, defensive backs was not handsomely paid. And it was one of the worst paid positions in the NFL.
And I said, I got to do something about that because I promised my mom that she was going to have to work. She's never going to have to work.
So I had to come up with something. And I came up with this guy, which my nickname was primetime from basketball in high school, but I had to enhance this thing.

So I had to do some finagling, do some thinking,

and do some creative marketing, and that's what happened.

So the dress code went to a whole other level.

I went to my last game against the University of Florida,

last regular season, in a tuxedo, in a limo.

That's how I went to my last game because that was it. It was it.
And I knew it was it. That's great.
I mean, it's smart. It's the self-promotion to get yourself paid more.
But that quote, fuck, that quote is just all taught. It's true, though.
It was true. And it just rolled out the tongue.
I didn't even premeditate that.

That one just rolled right out the tongue.

Yeah, it is true.

If you look good, you feel good.

And if you feel good, you play good.

Yeah.

If you play good, you play good.

Yeah, exactly. Have you ever had a bad game where before the game, you were like, man, I just don't look good enough?

No, never that.

I don't even know how you fix your mouth even ask me that i also love your twitter account because you really enjoy ending tweets with hashtag truth so it's like true yeah i've had a youth organization for the last i think it's over a decade and our team name is truth what What truth means is trust in God, respect myself and others. Understand.
I have unlimited possibilities. Try my best, never give up and honor the truth.
And it's created all time. You could catch a kid five years old in this city with a true shirt on and say, what does that mean? And they're going to be able to regurgitate that to you expeditiously as well as their parents.
That's our creed. So that's really what that means is what I'm saying.
Okay. I like that.
Have you ever met Gary Busey? Because that sounded like abusive. Yes.
That was abusive. He's hilarious.
Yes, he is. He's hilarious.
He's crazy. He is, literally.
But in a good way. a way that makes you pay attention not abusive you got

to listen to him because you got to scramble through all that stuff and you're gonna find a nugget sitting right there um what would you rather do uh doubt yourself publicly or make a tackle i find opposition to what you just said. And I'm going to explain.
Find one game where I was reluctant and I missed the tackle. Let me explain.
My game was so strong, that was the thing they thought they found wrong. That never happened.
Don't you think if you would have saw me being that type of player, you'd have remembered particular plays where they just magnified that on television time after time and time again. You never saw that.
That's a vicious rumor to criticize my greatness. And I find that very appalling.
So would you say that maybe you shouldn't have been so good at playing cover defense and intercepting passes because then people would realize that you weren't that bad of a tackler? No. What I would say is when you reach the epitome, Mount Rushmore, and farther more, when you have ever on the back of your name, like greatest ever, ever, not E-V-E-R, ever, like E-V-A-H, I'm the greatest ever, they find something wrong.
You can't think of a player that was really ever that they didn't try to find something that was not great and astounding. And that's what they try to come with me.
You have never in your life, my coaches has never said, hey, Prima, I need you to come up and make that tackle. Nobody never tell me nothing stupid like that because it never happened.
I never hurt my team in that aspect. And you can't remember one game where you watched or you watched or whoever watching this said, you know what, he let me down this game.
Hey, I didn't say it. I'm watching a clip from the Super Bowl right now.
You didn't stop him from saying it. When you saw the screen, he was driving down.
You should have reached over there and said, hey, don't go there. I'm watching a clip right now from the Super Bowl.
And on this play, they highlight this as a play that you didn't want to tackle tackle on but I'm watching it back and you just were too fast that you ran in front of where the guy was going to be no because I know what particular play you're coming I'm gonna tell you what really happened on the play it was a one of our guys right behind that guy so if I cut that guy legs, which was my only opportunity to tackle him,

I'm getting hit not only by the guy but the guy behind him.

Mind you, I was playing offense and defense that game.

You know what?

If you lose me, what happens?

You're right.

I'm watching it back. There's a guy.

It looks like a defensive tackler.

No, a linebacker coming right at you.

Right behind him.

So what's going to happen to me if I bring him down front of that guy and also you were you were also too fast just go with that spin zone just be like i outran the tackle that's not true find another one i got time uh all right well while he looks for another one i had a question about playing both baseball and football because i don't think it's ever going to happen again i i don't know who would do it. Only reason why, because kids don't have nerves.
They're good enough. Matter of fact, they're great, but they don't have nerves.
Right. And they're allowing people to put them in a box at an early age.
You only play baseball, or you only play football, and you play that all year round, or you only play basketball, and obviously you play AAU. You don't have time for the little sport that don't make sense everybody i know wants to stream two streams

of income you want to do multiple things but when it comes to a sport you got some idiot that ain't

never done nothing it's gonna tell you you can't do one thing i got time by the way i'm talking to

him but i can multitask i'm waiting on you to come up with nothing nothing what i'm coming up with

right now is you absolutely roasting tony romo pointing something similar out. And I just want to say, I don't want that smoke.
I don't want that smoke problem. You can direct it on Tony Romo.
That smoke there was about something else. That was about T.O.
smoke. Okay.
That was bigger than that, where it really happened. So my question is, when you were doing both logistically how hard was it and did you ever feel like man if I didn't have to spend a little time in the film room today it might help a little bit baseball or vice versa no I barely did it simultaneously where it overlapped and they made it very comfortable for me to get in a helicopter in Atlanta and fly over everybody and land Atlanta and get out and do my thing but no it that never happened because when I was when I was playing one I was really focused on the one thing and I'm not thinking about the other and I had that kind of ability to compartmentalize everything in life but it's just not a good thing sometimes but it did happen in the World Series, and you had an unbelievable World Series with the Braves.
You guys lost to the Blue Jays, but during that time, were you in the zone constantly? It's incredible to think about that you were playing in the NFL, playing in the World Series. If it wasn't for David Cohn, I wouldn't have even played.
Just so happens baseball is analytical. And there's a guy, they were trying to punish.
I'm trying to help these fools win the World Series. I got a football contract, and you're trying to punish me? Like, what kind of sense does that make? And you think I'm going to miss the Falcons playing against Dan Marino, Duper, Clayton, and Nat Moore, and not be out there on the island? And I'm sitting on a bench for a straight nine? Not even a thought of getting in? So, no.
And I'm on a football contract. That's why we did the whole 30 for 30 because of this nonsense.
Because I'm on a football contract, but you try to punish me and not let me play. Thank God David Cone, and I was hitting like 600 or 700 lifetime off Cone.

If it wouldn't have been no David Cone, I would have never played in the World Series.

So every time I see Cone or I see an ice cream cone, I just smile.

I get happy because if it wasn't for Cone, I would have never played.

I did find one more example, but I'm going to let you off the hook on it.

No, you did.

I did. Oh, I did.
I did. Yes, I did.
It was against Bo Jackson, though. So I can't hate on you for getting stiff arm through the crust of yours by Bo Jackson.
Anybody would. Of the freshman.
The chase down of 225-pound man, this shit, sent straight from the hand of God. And you're going to try to bring that up on me? I said I wasn't.
I ran up on Bo, and he pulled my head and pushed me down like I was an infant. Me and Bo, we love each other, but that right there is like the elephant in the room when we see each other all the time.
But that wasn't. I'm 18, man.
You can't indict me on that. That's why I said I wasn't going to bring it up.
But the clip is out there if people want to watch it. You did bring it up.
I didn't. I brought it up, but I retract.
I will give you a pardon for that tackle. Is he the most athletic person that you've ever been on a field with? No, my cousin June Bull.
He was a crackhead and a good dude, though. But he was very athletic because he was still stuck when I came home from college and could never catch him could never catch him and he would sell it and i would have to go get it back at the hood in the front of the drug dealers he was probably the most athletic my cousin jumbo but next to that i think it was both where are we uh prime with your fight against people who are terrible at using public bathrooms dude you mean the guys that can't hit the water yeah you did you did a you did a rant on twitter uh not too long ago about people just not being able to hit the water they're just pissing all over the toilet is that not the worst yes and then now you got the pressure of wiping the seats down or defuncing the whole bathroom because when you go out and you're recognizable they're gonna think it's you yeah that's true so i'm in i'm in a i gotta make a decision yeah what do i do i think so no i got that i got to really wrap my hands up and wipe somebody else's pee off the lips of the toilet when it's just sitting there like a gold treat and it just makes me mad and then somebody leave a 15 candy bars in the bottom of the toilet and if you walk out of there it's you that's well no you have to do if you're talking about like a public restroom with stalls you got to do the kick open method yeah you kick it open it open.
You still got to do it. Yeah, if you see the mess, you move on.
You move on. You cannot leave a floater in there when you're recognizable because what's the first thing you're going to say? Hey, man, Brian blew this bathroom.
I'm live. FaceTime.
Oh, my God. He knocked the bottom out of this thing.
So I got to make a decision. Wait.
Now that I'm thinking about it it, you seem kind of suspect. You're kind of trying to get out ahead of it.
Are you blowing up bathrooms left and right and you're trying to basically give yourself an alibi? I will get out. I'm in the country, first of all.
See, look, I pee outside. Everywhere I go, I pee outside.
I'm an outside peer. I love the freedom.
I love the air. I love the breeze.
I pee outside every day. I get up at night and go outside just to pee.
Hold on. So that would actually be more in my favor of this argument.
You aren't used to peeing in a toilet. He doesn't have target practice.
You don't have the target practice. You're sounding suspect.
No, but if you're not close to the toilet, all you got to do is just do the split. Just spread your legs.

I just love it.

I remember seeing it on Twitter and being like, what the hell is the – oh, okay, this is actually a very important issue.

That makes me mad.

I got a real issue with it.

I do.

I got an issue with that.

I do agree with you, though,

that taking a leak outside is much preferable to peeing indoors.

Like feeling grass underneath your feet and just pissing outside is a wonderful – No, no, no. I don't go out bare feet.
I can't do it because I got bad feet. It's not the grass.
It's the coolness and the freedom. Yeah.
It's the freedom. And it's like the wind just whistling.
The wind just whistles around your NBA balls and just the whistle. the whistle of it.
Going back to the bathroom thing, you don't strike me as a shy person. Why wouldn't you just walk out of the stall and be like, just so you know, that's not a prime mess in there.
That was there when I got into the bathroom, so don't put it on me. I don't have time to be explaining nothing to a stranger that I don't know.
I'm trying to prove myself to you.

It's almost like I'm admitting guilt.

If you're walking in the bathroom and I'm coming out, dude,

I'm trying to tell you, man, that was not me.

Yeah.

What are you going to think?

That was him.

Yeah, that was Prime.

Prime is messy in there.

He's got to be bad at something.

Yeah.

Now he's on fire with a forearm laying inside the toilet.

Yeah.

I can't care.

Yeah. It actually would make sense.
You played in the NFL. You played in Major League Baseball.
Everyone has to have one fault. He can't hit a toilet.
Right. So that's how I think.
You once said rock bottom for you was laying between two or three women at a time. Do you not understand what the phrase rock bottom is? Don't take the part of it.
That was a soliloquy. But rock bottom, I don't think you know what that means.
Yes, I do. I didn't say that was rock bottom.
What I said is, could you imagine sleeping in a 15,000 square foot home and not getting no rest. Can you imagine having hundreds of pairs of shoes and you can't go anywhere? You're not going anywhere.
You can't take a step in the right direction. Can you imagine to have several cars and you can't go nowhere? Can you imagine? It was solidically like that.
Then I said, can you imagine sleeping in between two and three women at a time and ain't nobody satisfied when you got up could you imagine you gotta work harder yeah walking out of the stadium with 67 000 people screaming your name don't even know your middle name it was a whole soliloquy of things that i said could you imagine yeah but all those things seem like really awesome stuff like oh i'm in a 50 000 square foot house oh i've got too many shoes yeah well i actually could imagine the not being able to satisfy two or three women i mean that's yeah who could do that yeah yeah but that's that was a long soliloquy of things that i just wanted to put you in the place i wanted you to be me for a minute okay i would love to be you for a minute yeah that sounds sick do you when you get going on a soliloquy like that is there a part of your brain that's like fuck man this is really good like i'm going i'm prime right now no no because it's just it's a button like i can hit a button and then it comes man but like you gotta understand like soon as i leave you guys I'm not lying. I'm going to be ready to get on the tractor and cut some grass.
That's the difference. That's the dynamics of the personality.
I could be this, but I'm really that. What do you like to do to relax? I fish.
I go out there and I fish. What do you catch out there? Bass.
I'm a bass guy. I like that.
When you're on the boat, do you stand up and then pee over the edge or do you hold it? Every now and then. Every now and then I do.
It's a challenge because it's almost like you're surfing and you're activating those leg muscles to balance yourself when you're pissing out of a boat. No, I have a pontoon boat or I have this one little round boat that I'm in.
The only challenge is to make sure I'm over the edge. Yeah.
I have a rainbow. It's really satisfying, though, to pee into a lake or into an ocean.
Nature's toilet. Yeah, because the water's going to catch me.
Yeah. Are you angry at all that your Hall of Fame bus doesn't really look like you? No, I'm not.
The only thing I'm angry about is why would they take the bandana off? Yeah. It don't make no sense.
Like, you told me you wanted to be me, and that was me. So I don't understand why that was a problem.
That's not right. I'm looking at the picture right now.
They didn't – that was mean what they did. You're a good-looking dude, and I don't know what they did, but it's just different.
It looked like a white dude from upstate New York. Like his name was Bruce or Harold.
It looked like his name is Harold. That's really what it looked like.
It don't look like a prime. It's a Harold.
What was it like prepping for that speech when you go in the Hall of Fame? Because I feel like you can just step up to the mic and just talk. Yeah, yeah.
I didn't write anything down. Only thing is a few people that I didn't want to miss the thank you.
But as far as the speech, it's like a roller. It comes in your head, and it just rolls down, and you tell the story.
I could just see the story strolling as I'm talking. What was it like when, uh, what's his name? David Baker.
When, when David Baker came to knock on your door at the hotel and say, Hey, you made a knock on my door. I wasn't going for that.
I wasn't going to put myself in that situation where you're going to get a chance to knock on my door or not knock on my door and tell me I'm good enough for your little committee.

I wasn't doing that.

I was actually coaching a youth football game versus Snoop when the announcements were having.

And they stopped the game and said, hey, Prime, and Snoop came over with the microphone, and he did that.

Snoop told you.

Snoop told you that you made the Hall of Fame?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's how I went down.

That is the most perfect deal.

I told him I'm not coming to the –

Thank you. Snoop told you that you made the Hall of Fame? Yeah.
That's how I went down. That is the most perfect deal.
I told him I'm not coming to them. Because you guys don't know how they do this.
Imagine four of your guys in a room and they come and tell you two, you guys got the podcast those two didn't. That's how it is.
They come and tell you,

then they take the guys that didn't out the back door and nobody ever heard of them.

That's why T.O. said,

I'm not doing it because two years prior every year,

he was the guy that they had to walk out the back that didn't make it.

And that's very humbling.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I never thought of it that way,

but you're absolutely right.

Yeah.

I wouldn't put myself in that situation.

You wouldn't do me like that.

Damn.

I got kids.

Yeah.

It looks like... didn't make it and that's very humbling yeah yeah i never thought of it that way but you're absolutely myself in that situation you wouldn't do me like that damn i got kids yeah look up speaking of speaking of which are both of your kids gonna go pro i hope so it's looking like it could could be on the credits yeah are you gonna go i i remember i think it was maybe january this year where you said you're gonna be a head coach.
Are you still planning on doing that in a college football? I will be. 2021 I will be.
Where? I don't know, but I will be. Okay.
Is it going to be a package deal with your sons? I don't know about that. I'm not a part of a package.
Like, I create the package. I'm not a part of a package.
Well, yeah, you did. You created the package.
You created your sons. Yeah, I create the package.
I'm not going to be a part of the package. Do you have any eligibility left? I would love to see you go back to college.
They should just give Deion Sanders one year so he can go play with his son at whatever college he wants to. Where would you go right now if you were being recruited? With my sons, plural.
I would want them together, and I would want to be there there with them together I would want them on the same team I I mean it's going to be I would like that what school they probably wouldn't but I would like if it were if it were up to you though what school would you go to if if you were just coming into your own right now that's tough because I haven't looked at it that way for defensive backs but you you've got to understand, I'm a lot like my youngest son,

and he's a lot like me, where Florida State wasn't Florida State until my class got there, until that 85 class got there.

And things changed.

So he's the kind of guy that said, Dad, if I go to one of these majors,

they're going to be the same without me.

I want to go somewhere and make it my own.

I want to make it that.

I want to change the game.

That's the way the little man thinks, man.

So that's why he chose FAU.

I like it.

That's smart.

And it's eight minutes from a beach, too, by the way.

Yeah, that's a good point as well.

Quality of life.

And, yeah, like going to – if you're picking a school and you're an athlete,

I went to University of Wisconsin.

I don't know how they ever recruit anyone. They recruited me.
Really? Yeah. How can they recruit a black man from Florida to Wisconsin? There's a...
Who did that? Did you go visit? No. I'm from Florida.
I had a curl. I had a curl.
You think my curl was going to withstand Wisconsin? that would have been great. I didn't even know how to spell Wisconsin.
Probably still don't. What do you think of? No.
I'm not going to Wisconsin. I didn't wear socks in high school.
I didn't own a jacket. When I went to the University of Georgia for a visit, I walked through the little walkway, and my curl froze.
It ain't coming here. It ain't nowhere in the world.
Why would you invite a kid from Florida to a visit in December? That's the dumbest thing. That's the dumbest bit of recruiting.
And then Vince Dooley, to top it off, he said, Mr. Sanders, I hear you're pretty good.
I'll tell you what. Once you red shirt, you're going to really contribute with us.
I said, sir, with all due respect, I'm better than everything that you got out there what I just saw they just lost to Georgia Tech and you're going to tell me about a red shirt yeah better than everything you got on your field I really said that imagine being the guy who wanted to get prime time to fucking red shirt what an an idiot. Yeah, do you know where he is right now? He recruited me, man.
You're one of the few people. That's because I love you guys.
You guys probably the few. It ain't too many people know that, that I've really let in on that, but they recruited me my senior year.
That's crazy. How did that happen? I don't know.
Yeah. That's my point, though.
It's like I don't – you're saying your son's picking a place that's eight minutes from the beach i never understand how uh wisconsin ever gets anyone because it's like if i were uh recruited anywhere i'd be like fuck i'm going to the desert i'm going to the beach like i'm gonna enjoy this right right yeah but they do a great job they got a great great program, too. Yeah, yeah, just run the ball.

Prom, I got a little bit of history with you musically.

So I purchased your CD.

You should have.

I believe it was called Primetime, right?

Yeah. I purchased it from Sam Goody back in 2007.

Okay.

What was your favorite song?

Must Be the Money.

Why You Envy Me, also a banger. You don't have to say another word.
Let me kill you. All right.
You don't have to say another word. Because if you can remember that song, that was my favorite song.
That was my favorite song. And the video was supposed to be at a press conference with all these mics sitting up in my face and I'm talking about why you

oh my god that was a hit did you write that did you write your own music that was a hit yes so I I purchased it and it cost zero dollars when I bought it ain't ain't not wrong you still got okay all right cool it was a message behind it I liked uh we can roll too and how suprime I was driving down 85.

That was the thought process there.

85. It was a message behind it I liked We Can Roll too I was driving down 85 That was the thought process there 85 south in Atlanta I had one last question for you It's our Body Armor question Go drink Body Armor I'm a strawberry banana guy You drink Body Armor Prime You should be drinking Body Armor Delicious You can go to drinkbodyor.com or uh amazon for any of their flavors so this is technically we usually do grit week where we right before memorial day um we we travel around the country we interview people out of the van obviously coronavirus happened it canceled it so we're doing it this week you're going to be part of it you.
You're actually going to be the lead. So everyone thinks prime time.
They think flash. They think, you know, everything, right? The jewelry.
But you are a guy who made it to the highest level, the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and you have to have had at least a little bit of grit to get there. So what does grit mean to you, and where have you in your life been like, yeah, I suck it up and be gritty grit means to being tenacious involving tenacity being hungry being being a fighter being a warrior just not stopping not with withstanding the mess being able to do to not condemn but condone certain things but yet and still staying focused, man.
When I was in AAA baseball, I think it was 88, playing for the Columbus Clippers, I didn't really see the vision. I'm in AAA, and I'm getting ready to be a millionaire in a matter of time.
Why am I in a playing in a small town riding these buses all around the country and my my agent at the time eugene parker who who's passed on was like hey pratt you got to suck it up man you trust me trust me having the leverage is gonna pay dividends for you and you can really play this game just suck it up i'm like dude i'm get ready to get paid man why am I here why am I there I don't want to be here and I had to really take a look in the mirror and say you know what I got to sacrifice for what I want for that dream that I told my mother that dream of leading kids out of my inner city in Fort Myers Florida and showing them the direction and showing them I'm not a quitter. And I sucked it up, man, and the rest is history.
I like that. Grit also means not being afraid to take some toilet paper off the roll and wipe up another man's piss if you have to, so you don't get it.
You got to wipe your hands at least four times. Yeah, four rapid.
I love it. Well, thank you, Dion.
It was good to meet you, man. Do you still have the dollar sign earring? No.
I haven't worn earrings in probably 20 years. I don't.
I don't. Okay.
I love that picture. Hey, guys, what do you guys like to do? My turn for the question.
Okay. What is your biggest hobby? I watch a lot of sports.
Yeah, gambling. You watch a lot of sports.
What's your favorite sport? I love football. I like rugby.
I like actually any sport. You know what? I'll tell you what we need to do, you and I.
You and I, because we got to reunite, because that stuff you said a minute ago kind of took me off of you. And I've been looking at my screen with the phone up and just looking at my guy, not you.
But I apologize. I just want to be honest.
That's fine. So what we need to do to rekindle our relationship, we need to plan a rugby trip next summer.
And we need to get on a rugby team overseas and actually play a game. Okay.
I'm down to do that. I'm going to.
Yeah. We got to play a game.
I've been invited to join a couple of rugby teams here in the United States, some major league rugby teams. No, they know me.
They know me. They won't let me get away with it.
We've got to go. And I have a – Noe Shretnaz is my name.
Noe Shretnaz. That's Deion Sanders backwards.
I've gone by it in millions of restaurants. Or Rich Blackman.
You know, first name Rich Blackman is the last name. I go by that name as well all around the country.
But we need to go up and assume names and join that because I want to do it at least once. Okay.
Wait, so that sounds like an awesome idea. Now, for me, we're going to go to Vegas and I'm going to gamble with your money? Is that how we're going to do it? I only play blackjack.
Okay. I'll play blackjack for you.
But I'm very cheap.

Yeah, no, we'll do the full primetime, like draft day primetime experience.

No, no, no, no.

I'm very cheap. Like what I do, if I go to Vegas, which I rarely do,

I put $100 in my pocket and I go downstairs.

You ain't getting more than that.

That's it.

Smart.

And I'm going to play $5 a hand.

All right.

Well, Prime, thank you so much. It's been so much fun much fun we really appreciate it man and uh you're welcome on any time god god bless you and i apologize that i did not have my phone i had my that's my country phone this other phone don't work out here i apologize guys because i'm never late for anything no that's fine this is perfect no no that bothers me sincerely i do.
We're going to give you a pass. I forgive you.
Yeah. Appreciate it.
And we still got some bonding to do because that wasn't good. Listen, maybe you can teach me how to tackle because I've got – No, I'm not.
I've tackled every bill my mother has since 88, okay? All right. Thanks, man.
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We say it's picking up, you know, I have the job, picking up, I have the job. That's pretty good.
Thanks. You know, just all the crazy shit like that.
And then, yeah, that's, I first came on, that's what they told me, and that's what they stick with. So, when you're working, I always wondered what, how long, how, how, how many, how big of an area can you cover as a sanitation worker? Like, on a daily shift, what is that, eight hours? Are you working eight hours? Yes, we work eight hours.
Mostly in the morning, early morning, 5 a.m. we start.
And we cover sections of different neighborhoods. We can't do every neighborhood with one truck.
We have three trucks that do one neighborhood. And we just bust our ass and get the job done and off the street by 8.30, 9 o'clock.
Okay. Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, I've always wondered that because it always does seem like the trash, the sanitation workers, excuse me, come during the morning time, and they usually wake you up. Is there any neighborhood that you've ever worked in where the trash comes at, like, I don't know, noon when people are at work? Yeah.
There's a few neighborhoods that do pick up starting at 4 p.m. And then there's a few neighborhoods that do overnights, the midnight shift.
But usually when you start in the morning, you're done earlier enough. Usually off the street, like I said, 9 o'clock the latest.
It won't get too late for that. Then a new shift comes on at 4 p.m.
to annoy the other people driving home from work. We try to annoy the people going to work.
4 to 12 ship, annoy the people coming home from work. Would you consider being a sanitation worker as being one of the hardest jobs that you've had? Yeah, most definitely.
It's strenuous. I've been doing it for 20-plus years.
It takes a toll on your body. It takes a toll on your mind.
It's stressful, but it pays a lot of bills. I've done very well with the sanitation department.
I have no problems with what I've been doing for 21 years. What's the most stressful part of a sanitation worker's job? Trying to deal with the public is one thing.
Of course, you're driving a big truck that accidents can happen.

We consider ourselves one of the best drivers because we do have a commercial license.

We do drive trucks.

And we're just trying to avoid traffic, accidents, people in the street.

And now we have these mopeds that are everywhere.

Bikes are everywhere.

So it's stressful as a driver.

Yeah.

What's the weirdest thing that you have found or seen in all your years of working in sanitation? Well, there's a few things. Well, besides personal pets that we take care of, there's personal fun items that people throw away in the bedroom sense.
Got it. We try not to touch with our bare hands, but we still throw them away.
It's a few laughs. We've seen a couple of nice pictures that are thrown away that we have to throw away as well.
Yeah, but mostly a story that I have come before I started the job when we were training is the trainers were telling us that there was a couch in the South Bronx that had drugs in it. But that's a few things that we find, too.
But I just missed it by a few weeks or else I wouldn't be here right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
So have you ever seen a dead body? Parts, yes. I haven't seen a full dead body.
Whoa parts uh when you're figuring out uh kind of your crew and who you're going to be working with on a particular day is it the same crew over and over that you work with and and how do you decide who gets to drive who gets to stand on the back who gets to ride shabby right because uh well i do have a steady partner he has over 15 years of the job so based on years or all year of your seniority so obviously the driver he's into the loader we do switch it up once in a while I'll load a route and then he'll drive the route most of the day shift is all the guys with a lot of time on the job that's 12 years 13 years and on and most of the night shifts are the junior guys, we call them.

So those guys bounce around the clock working while senior guys take care of the morning

shifts.

Yeah, who's the guy that, like, what's the best position to have?

The one that you have to stick around the longest for?

If I look at a garbage truck going down the street, how can I identify, like, okay, it's,

you know, 7 in the morning, the guy that's driving, that guy is like the captain of his squad. What's, what's that best position? Yeah, probably a driver.
Driver runs the show. He decides when we're taking a break, if we're taking a break, how long we can finish the route in.
You know, and then, you know, he knows everyone on the route pretty much. He's talking to the – he calls them customers or the constituents.

You know, I love seeing everyone in the street.

So pretty much the driver, because I am a driver, I can say –

I'll say I'm the captain.

If he asks my loader, if I call him, he'll say he's the captain.

But I'd say, oh, he's the captain.

The driver's always the captain.

Yeah, agreed.

Do you guys look down on recycling men? No, not necessarily. That's actually a lot of work now these days, the recycling.
Because everyone is staying home and drinking their wine. Everyone's staying home and drinking their brews.
Yeah. Yeah, so all the way to going up with the pandemic.
And I don't really look down on them. It's a lot of work.
The recycling routes are actually longer than garbage routes. Garbage routes are shorter.
So the recycling guys are busting their ass as well. It's tough all the way around.
What can I do to be a better sanitation citizen? As somebody who produces a lot of waste, whether it be in the kitchen, whether it be household items, things of that nature? What can I do to make your job easier? I say the lighter the bags, the better. If you go for four bags instead of two or three, I don't mind carrying the extra two bags.
Just carrying an extra 20 pounds in the bag, it might rip in the street. I got to clean it up.
If I don't clean it up, then the phone calls come in. But I have to take care of my route, my section, my area.
So I say the more bags the better. If I got to take an extra lap or two around the cars, that's fine with me.
Okay. Are there specific houses or buildings that you hate that you know? You're like, fuck these guys.
They always they always fuck me over absolutely i have a few on every route but you just gotta smile and bite your tongue and just pick up their trash across the board are there any certain like types of buildings or types of industries that produce uh worse smelling trash than others like a certain type of restaurant or a certain type of apartment building set up or something like that?

Yeah, I have a few group homes and nursing homes on my routes.

Those are a lot of diapers, a lot of food scraps.

And from the food scraps and diapers come the maggots.

And the maggots are a nightmare. So I can smell a maggot two blocks away and then I know which bill in our house it is and it's usually one of those.
That's a home, group home type of thing like that. What's the biggest rat you've ever seen? I've seen rats and biggest cats.
The rats I don't mind. Once they get to the raccoons and skunks, that's a different ballgame.
Interesting. The rats have their own route going back to their crevice in the buildings or the people's houses.
Raccoons and skunks are trying to protect their garbage. You know what? It's all yours.
Enjoy yourself. I'll feed them all.
Yeah. You'll stand down to a raccoon.
Absolutely. That's interesting.
We have an intern that he rehomed a raccoon. If you caught a raccoon, would you dispose of it, or would you drive it 30 minutes out of your way and release it into a nice forest? I definitely caught him in the back.
I'm a big fan of the raccoons in this house. Yeah, Billy did it.
Billy chose the other option on that one. Yes.
What are some physical attributes that you look for when you're evaluating who would be a good partner or who would be a good sanitation worker? What are some attributes that they were credited with? Yeah. Well, I do hear a lot of praise in the streets.
I do work in the neighborhood that I was born, raised, and still live in. So I do try to keep it nice and clean on my route.
I do hear a lot of thanks. A lot of people call my garage or call the sanitation department, acknowledging them us, and we are doing a great job.
So it's good. It means a lot when you are busting your ass five, six days a week for five, eight hours a day and people are acknowledging all the hard work that we do.
Yeah. Quick overrated or underrated for two parts of the sanitation business.
Overrated or underrated, hanging on the back of the truck while the truck goes down the street? Oh, that's underrated. I used to love it.
Our union for safety reasons took off the back step on most of the trucks. So that was maybe over 10 years ago.
That's when I transferred into the driver's pool to become a driver. It was fun.
I used to be doing 20, 25 miles an hour in the back. The back when I had hair, hair was blowing in the wind.
You can't beat it. All right, and then overrated or underrated hitting the lever and watching all the trash get eaten up by the trash truck.
It could be underrated too. I like when parents come up with their kids in the carriages to watch us do it.
It's fun to see all the faces or the expressions of the young kids that watch it. So if it's just me and my partner, I'll let him do it.
I'll walk in front of the truck. But if there's kids there watching us, then I'll stay around and hang out and talk to the parents or the kids, just like conversate with them a little bit.
It's fun to see them. Jumping back to Big Cat's question about the rats, is there a certain neighborhood or a certain borough of New York that's known for maybe having more aggressive or larger rats than the others? I mostly work in the Bronx and the Northwest Bronx.
I hate to say it's a cleaner garbage, but once you go a little south of where I am, forget about it. There's rats everywhere.
Flocks and flocks of rats. You pick up one bag of garbage, five rats scooting at a time into the back of the building, go back to the houses, under the cars, pick up another bag, another five or six.
I've experienced it before. I do see it once in a while now up here in North Riverdale in the Bronx, but it's not as bad as, say, the South Bronx or Northern Manhattan type of thing.
I like that we just got to forget about it in the wild. That was a perfect forget about it too.
I felt that. How many times do you get in arguments with cars and like, hey, I'm trying to get around here, and you're honking, and you're like, I'm working here, that kind of thing.
I used to, when I first started years ago, I used to get into it. Now I'm more mellow now.
I've been doing it too long to argue with the drivers. I mean, if you see a big white truck in the way, would you follow it? I mean, on a one-way street or a narrow street, it's common sense.
If you see me down the street, just please go the other way. Yeah.
Or sometimes just a taxi driver will just turn down the street behind you so they can keep the meter running, make a little extra coin. Oh, yeah.
That's the oldest trick in the book. You brought something up earlier and it made me think how you work in a neighborhood that you grew up around.
I have to imagine that a lot of people who work in your business do better work. If they pick up trash in a neighborhood that means more to them that they grew up in, is that something that people look for when they're evaluating like who they should hire? It's like, Oh, well this guy lived in this neighborhood growing up.
So he's going to take more pride in keeping it nice absolutely i i do take pride uh only a few of us in my garage that work on neighborhoods what you can tell you take pride there's an old saying when i came came on an old timer said well you can't see it from my house well if you leave garbage actually I can. That's why I take everything and make sure the whole neighborhood is clean

because I do take it personal.

I do love what I do.

It is my neighborhood.

If I don't do it, who will?

Yeah.

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But we do throw them in. But I make sure that our compactor is not as tight as it could.
This way there's no pressure release for it. Or I do have to check the valves to make sure that we can throw it in but uh yeah i heard this morning there's a big explosion because of a gas tank or like uh uh an air tank or i forget what it's called but exploded in a truck and it hurt one of our employees that sucks i do take precautions with it but there are some tanks that we are allowed to, and there's some that aren't.

But if it's all rusted out, I can't read if it is legal or not. So I just throw everything out.
And I hate to say, but I hope for the best. Yeah.
What about batteries? I've always heard that you shouldn't throw batteries away. Is that true? The big car batteries, a few with the big acid.
A few of our guys got hurt. A few got killed with the acid.
So, yeah. So, I try to...
We're supposed to put them in the side of the truck and dispose of them at the garage and then the special truck takes it. But, yeah.
We put car batteries and stuff like that, acid, in the side of the truck. We put a few bins that we room for, and then we just discharge it at our local garages.

I have one last question.

It kind of dovetails on what Big Cap brought up earlier.

If you look down on recycling guys, is there a group of employees,

maybe public sector employees, that you do have a rivalry with,

whether it's friendly, you know how like FDNY and NYPD,

they have the basketball games and the football games against each other, things like that. Is there a group that you guys look at and you're like, those dudes are our rivals? No, not really.
There's actually no rivals with the DSNY, I don't believe. I know everyone respects us to a degree.
We respect the FDNY, we respect the NYPD, the MTA There's really, like our football team plays in the same league as them, but I don't think we're as better as the cops and firemen and athletics, but there's really no rivalry like the cops and firemen. Where I work, we do share three blocks with the MTA, so it is annoying with all the traffic there.
That's the only thing I can see is the rivalry. We have 500 buses and 300 garbage trucks trying to pull out at the same time.
So that's the only problem I have with the NTA. Other than I respect everybody that works in the city.
I like that though. I like that people give respect where respect is due to the sanitation workers.
Absolutely. Get a horse head in.
Yeah. Cougar, thank you so much.
We appreciate it, man. And give us a little perfect way to get going with Grit Week.
Talk to some of the grittiest professionals out there in terms of sanitation business. Yeah.
I appreciate you guys having me on. And, yeah, like I said, we just bust our ass out there, keep the city clean.
And if we're in your way, we apologize, but there's other ways to go. All right? There's other ways to go around us.
I appreciate you guys having me on. Awesome.
Yeah, thank you very much for your time. Do you have any questions for Deion Sanders? We're about to interview him.
So maybe if you have a question, we can just – Oh, man, I love Primetime. Primetime is my guy.
When he was on the Yankees for that one year, two years, he was the only guy who was faster than me back then. I was 5'9", 300 pounds.
He's the only one that can beat me in a race. There you go.
There you go. Alright, well, thanks so much, man.
We appreciate it. Alright, enjoy it, guys.
Enjoy Deion. Alright, thank you.
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Okay, we have a Monday reading that we're very excited for before we do that. Billy has been doing a great job.
The rebuilding of of billy uh soy boy into a soy man so he's been giving us a sheet before every single show that has the 10 he's been tasked with finding the 10 biggest stories online now this week uh he said to us he said there's really only six stories and we said well billy you have to have 10 so i think what billy did was he just went to discovery channel because stories yeah that's that's exactly what he did yes seven on we'll read them out seven shark week is happening august 9th that's a story eight uh monkeys steal covet 19 tests uh nine i think i think it was baby raptor fossil found in alaska Oh, he got he got a little fast and loose with the numbering here 10 zoo miami test gorilla for kofi oh then he did the carol basket and then he did slim pickings for monkey temple residents as covid 19 hit so that's exactly ability he rounded it out with headlines all from the discovery channel there are only six articles that were posted on the Internet today. All the Internet.
Half of our sheet is just monkeys and testing positive for COVID. So here's a nice story that was number four on the list.
Elon Musk denies allegation he had a three-way with Amber Heard and Cara Delevingne. That's just like no one actually accused Elon Musk.
Yeah, I'm deny I had one show. Yeah, I would like to go on the record and say that I did not sleep with Wonder Woman.
What's her name? Gal Gadot. I did not, despite all the rumors to the contrary, I did not have a dirty kinky three-way with Gal Gadot and Cardi B.
Also, the lightning struck the Statue of Liberty at number five. Wasn't that like Wednesday last week? Yeah, that was, I want to say Thursday night maybe.
Oh, fuck. Good job, Billy.
All right, let's get to our Monday reading. Although I did, I loved Rob Manford when he was doing his speech on Thursday night.
They were interviewing him for the Nats-Yankees game on Thursday night, and he was just talking about what a great job they've done for player safety. And meanwhile, in the background, just like lightning is striking on every single side of him.
He's like, you know, we're taking into account everything that we can to keep these guys safe and on the field. And then, boom, like the U.S.
Capitol explodes in the background. So, so perfect.
All right. Our Monday reading, it's rare because I don't think we've had any sequels.
So if you remember, we did probably a few months ago. It was the story of a girlfriend writing in and saying.
I love my boyfriend. We've been together for many years.
But we go to Waffle House. And every time he goes.
He gets in a fight with the cook. The same cook.
And she basically said, I can't go there with him anymore,

but I know he still is going there.

He's ordering his eggs.

The cook messes him up, and then they fist fight.

And they've been doing it every single, like, every other week for months.

It's just important to have a rival in this world.

I don't really see anything that weird about it,

but if this guy feels the need to defend himself, then go off.

Yeah, so we have the boyfriend side, which is electric. he someone someone tagged me in this it was posted on facebook um so it starts with uh so my girlfriend has an issue with the fact that i don't get along with the cook at our local waffle house apparently she had such a problem with this uh that she posted about it here and it blew it up and it blew up but it's been removed i'm not familiar with this sub so this actually was on reddit so i don't know the rules for posting and whatnot so i don't know why it was taken down regardless i think my side of the story should be explained agreed my girlfriend and i have been together about three years met in grad school graduated moved in together uh in a decent financial situation we both work full-time trying to get a head start on our college debts yada yada yada clicked i this is this is backstory we don't really need one of the things i love is eating i'm not overweight or anything and i go to the gym and watch my intake but come on eating is just so nice okay totally agree dude i particularly love breakfast food my mom would always make eggs and pancakes and stuff like that for me when dad wasn't around their marriage wasn't amazing.
While I certainly wasn't abused or neglected, there was a noticeable lack of being comfortable and at ease whenever dad was around. It's interesting that it was a treat to be able to eat breakfast.
Dad didn't like me eating breakfast. Right.
So there's something deep here. So on top of all this, for a while in middle school and into high school, this punk kid started bullying me.
We'll call him Aaron. I've've never been super confrontational I like to just mind my own business and do my thing I was a band kid played trumpet Aaron would do a lot of the small things to annoy me and when I showed frustration he would laugh and get others to laugh his favorite thing to do was steal my trumpet and stick trash in it like wadded up paper of food and make a spectacle of me when I'd be in the hall during passing period before Ben trying to clean it out.
It honestly sounds like something that Billy would do. Yes, absolutely.
I guess there's something hilarious about a skinny kid with acne and a cheap haircut not being happy. I had friends in school, but I was never socially high ranking, probably because I didn't learn to be assertive and confident until I was in college.
As a result, school is always something to be endured rather than enjoyed. When Aaron dropped out of my sophomore year, things got a little better, but my social position was already cemented in place.
This kind of sounds sad. So when I'd come home after a long day of putting up with shit, dad would never, hold on, I gotta find where this picks up.
Dad would never express being happy to see me or make himself available to talk. If I tried, he would just passively say something about me needing to learn, not to care or something.
He was never a comfort. So when he was gone, it was just me and mom at home.
Only child. I really felt safe and relaxed and she would make me delicious breakfast style food.
Dad didn't care for it though. So if she made any, when he was home, he would make his opinion about it known.
So there he loves it. Breakfast is his safe.
Yes. yes yes and also it sounds like what the dad's doing is the dad was trying to keep his son as a beta yeah as he was growing up he's like i can't feed my kid protein in the morning because he'll get bigger than me that's a very common dad thing yes yes um i think it made my mom happy to see me appreciate her in a way my dad never did the point is when she made this food there was nothing but was nothing but happiness, appreciation, and love to share between us.
So I love breakfast food and always will. In my girlfriend and I's budget, we have a room to go out and eat fairly often, like a couple times a week.
I love going to breakfast places like Denny's, Dunkin' Donuts, and Waffle House. So we go to those once every week or two.
She's got a small stomach that doesn't handle- Can I throw a flag real quick? Yeah, yeah. Denny's doesn't need to be included in that triumvirate.
If you're talking about the best breakfast places, you don't put Denny's in the rarefied air that Waffle House is in. Also, Dunkin' Donuts seems like budgeting for Dunkin' Donuts.
You'd be hard-pressed to spend more than $6 on Dunkin' Donuts. I think their most expensive value meal is like $4.99.
Yeah. Delicious, but yeah, it would be hard to be like Brewster's millions and spend $20 at Dunkin' Donuts.
Just get out of here with the Denny's. You got to include IHOP.
You got to include Waffle House. You got to include a diner.
Maybe. Yeah.
Maybe a diner. Maybe a Bob Evans.
Even their breakfast bowls are like 2,200 calories each. Delicious.
All right. So she's got a small stomach that doesn't handle a lot of grease and fat.
Well, but she likes coffee and read or work while i do uh demolish a plate of food i like this guy yeah he just fucking loves breakfast yeah and also he just like slid in just under the radar by the way my girlfriend gets diarrheal yeah yeah we were out running errands a couple months ago on a saturday i was craving some breakfast for lunch and there was a waffle house a block away so we headed there we sat down to order and when the waitress went back behind the counter i thought i recognized the cook i shouldn't have start i've stared because he turned around and we briefly made eye contact it was erin yep i hadn't seen him in nearly 10 years he did not age well and it was obvious he hadn't made much of his life. He looked surprised, but turned back around and kept working.

Now, I like my eggs a little runny.

Some people think it's gross, but some people don't need to express their opinions.

I like it on the internet.

Hey, why don't you shut the fuck up?

I like my eggs medium rare plus.

I ordered fried eggs a little runny.

I also kept exchanging glances with Aaron and saw him realize how much more successful I had become than him Listen We're all in a Waffle House You cannot make a distinction between Waffle House employee and Waffle House customer Once you enter that square Building with yellow roof We're all the same under God's eyes You're not any better than a W house cook i love it uh and my satisfaction must have shown on my face was he wearing a fucking tuxedo or something uh he narrowed his eyes a little and turned back to his skillet in a frustrated way he's got like a macbook pro and like a briefcase and he's all dressed up reading some court briefs or something what could aaron have possibly read on this kid to be like he really made it in life yeah um my girlfriend was completely oblivious browsing stuff on her phone our food was served my eggs were hard i told the waitress that i'd ordered runny eggs so she took the plate back i normally just roll with it when stuff like this happens but i was really looking forward to runny eggs this day girlfriend gave me a weird look about it when the plate plate came back, my eggs were scrambled. What the fuck?

I again said, this is not what I ordered.

So the waitress took my plate back again.

Now I was pretty busy in the restaurant.

Had we had the same waitresses, she probably would have noticed and said something to Aaron.

But she was busy across the cafeteria.

So a young waiter came back to our table with my eggs.

There were two hard-boiled eggs on my plate.

I was tired of this so I just ate them. Girlfriend was laughing but I was pissed.
Aaron gave me a sly grin as we left. I was going to tell my girlfriend about it all but I forgot about it until the next weekend.
We were shopping in the morning and I remembered how Aaron ruined my Saturday. Now I like to forgive and let stuff go, but breakfast food is special to me.

Don't screw with that.

I fucking love this guy.

Every man has a line.

You have to have a code and this guy's his happy place is just eating a delicious plate

of eggs.

I fucking love this guy.

All right.

So girlfriend wanted to go anywhere else, but we were going back and I was going to

get my damn runny eggs.

Get a Clint Eastwood fucking movie back for my eggs. We got there and Aaron looked up and saw us.
I ordered my eggs runny. But Aaron cut the yolks and cooked them into the whites hard.
So I asked what his problem was and then I just wanted to eat my runny eggs and leave it at that. It was later in the day and past the rush so there weren't many people there.
When I got my plate back, he had my eggs in a nest. Dude, Aaron's a bully, but he's fucking funny.
Yeah, I mean, you can say that Aaron hasn't done much with his life, but the practical jokes have progressed so much since he was in high school. He's done a lot.
He used to just, like, shove trash into your trumpet. Now he's, like, going out procuring nestsests So he can make an elaborate practical joke on you Good for him Fucking eggs and toast I love breakfast food But I hate the taste and feel of eggs and toast together That is very particular I was pissed And this is Waffle House So I threw it at him I love that he acknowledged He's like listen Any other place I would have just ate him This is Waffle House I can throw shit Well, in a Waffle House.
So I threw it at him. I love that he acknowledged.
He's like, listen, any other place, I would have just ate him. This is Waffle House.
I can throw shit. Well, in a Waffle House, you are one with a cook.
You're sitting right next to the kitchen. There's no barrier whatsoever.
Yeah. He picked it up and threw it back at me as he came around the counter.
As I stood up, he started to come at me, and we got into a mini brawl. I was never that good at fighting wrestling, but I'm great at being pissed, and Aaron brought it out.
After a moment, I realized this was stupid, so I said this was bullshit, and we left. I was not going to let Aaron have the victory here.
So the next weekend, we went again. Girlfriend was pretty apprehensive, but I was going to talk to Aaron about it.
But then I ordered my eggs. He scrambled them and put hash browns in them.
So I stood up and kind of loudly said, seriously, and held up the plate. He laughed and flicked hash browns at me with his back.
With the same look as when he shot spit wads at me in middle school. I slug my eggs and browns off my plate back at him.
Girlfriend was like, stop, this is so stupid. But Aaron was already coming at me.
We had a brawl, but he's bigger, and I couldn't grip him with the layers of Waffle House grime and eggs that were all over him. There we go again with the elitism dripping off this guy.
So I slipped out because I'm scrappy like that, and we left.

Girlfriend told me she won't come with me to that Waffle House again.

I also was not going to let Aaron win.

This guy, is he addicted to getting his ass kicked?

No, I fucking love this guy.

He is such a hero.

He was going to make the runny eggs like I wanted. I tried to explain everything to my girlfriend, but I was too pissed to think clearly.

I went back and ordered alone, and I guess Aaron, seeing me me without my girlfriend thought he was successfully causing problems between me and her he's right he's he's absolutely right i would say that aaron is really causing all the problems here yeah that's true it's a good point as a result he doubled down that time he didn't even make eggs he sent me pancakes pancakes. But it's a matter of principle.
I have to stand beside the fights I choose, and for better or worse, I chose this one. Because of this, I went back on a weekly basis till the shutdown, and I've tried to get the manager to come put him in his place.
But the manager there doesn't care, and it doesn't even bother Aaron to clean the mess up when I leave. Dude, you ever heard the saying, don't get in a fight with a guy who has nothing to lose? Yeah.
That's what you're doing here, buddy. Aaron's got nothing to lose.
If you get into an argument with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Aaron's got you.
Now, I know this seems like just a rant, and it kind of is, but I'm posting this because my girlfriend really isn't responding well to this at all no no yes she took to reddit and wrote like an expose about your relationship i have a fucking standing mma fight with the fucking cook at waffle house uh we're getting sort of brazilian jiu-jitsu gym yeah we're getting married and moving to a new city this summer, but I'm probably going to go back and let Aaron see my wedding ring so he knows he really accomplished nothing and causing me and my girlfriend to have problems. That will show him.
That's really healthy. However, my girlfriend disagrees with my philosophy of choosing my fights and sticking to them.
Like I said, I'm usually willing to compromise on things and not make them a fight, but everyone got their things they defend. For me, it's not about the food, but about not understanding to the force that I let push me down for so long.
I don't think she realized how much this means to me. I don't know if I should give in to her and stop going back or if I should stand firm in my decision.
What should I do? Well, I think this guy actually likes being in this fight. He likes knowing that he's in the process of standing up for himself and doing something that his old self wouldn't do.
So the second he goes back to the Waffle House and they serve him the eggs that he wants, I think he's going to be a lost soul. The dog chasing the car.
He's going to miss having that fight. He's going to miss having that rival.
Yeah, so obviously I'm very much on this guy's side. I want him to win.
I think he needs to start thinking a lot smarter, though. He needs to do like some kind of home alone trap on Aaron.
You know what I mean? Like you're not going to beat him up. You're not going to unless you start doing steroids.
Billy hit him up. But like some kind of banana peel or embarrassing situation you can get this guy in.
You have to think smart. You have to like get this guy to be laughed at by everyone at waffle house and that's your big thing you find out what kind of car he drives and then you fill up his car with eggs yes yeah like if he drives a pickup truck just crack a million eggs into the bed of the pickup truck that's what you should you could also just bring some eggs when he when he sends you like pancakes start just whipping eggs right into his face.
Yeah. Just find him on a day when his window is just barely cracked down.
Yes. And just slide a shitload of fried eggs into his car.
And then just wait. It's kind of Monte Cristo stuff.
You have to be patient with these things. Or you can mess with the supply chain and slip, I don't know, like pepper spray or some sort of sneezing powder or like a firecracker into an egg that he'll eventually crack open in the kitchen yeah he's doing his cooking and then he's embarrassed at work yeah i don't know but you got you you're you're not going to beat him on his home turf no you have to find a sneaky way to do this yes i just love this rivalry so goddamn much so goddamn much what do you think billy billy you've...
Billy's taken off his shirt and now he's just wearing an Atlas jersey. So, I think Aaron's actually, in this guy's mind, the real winner because he gets to eat breakfast food all day.
So, he's actually jealous of Aaron behind the counter. It might be like...
Aaron's got his dream job. Yeah, because he's like, I've gone in all these colleges and stuff and I'm so angry and this guy my enemy's out here eating breakfast food all day it's true he's like to this guy Aaron is basically like working at like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory yeah breakfast everywhere or the person who was like my cousin works at Nintendo like all they do is play video games all, it's like, yeah, you can go into work and you just eat eggs all day and then you go home and get paid.
And the last thing I would say is you need to stop the gripe for right now, work your ass off, buy the Waffle House. Yeah.
And then promote him. Promote him.
To be the manager of the Waffle House. Give him a $100,000 salary, but he loses everything, his entire life, $100,000 salary the minute he cooks eggs incorrectly.
So every day is the most intense day of his life cooking eggs. You can do that or promote him to that level and then just pay him for the rest of his life and he'll be your friend.
Yeah, that's true. He won't get mad at you.
That would be cool as well. Or just you pin a pin a tax scheme on him you embezzle money through the waffle house and you leave a paper trail that implicates him as a manager he goes to jail for 50 years yeah you get a shitload of money yeah i like it so we've given you a lot hopefully you're a listener um great fucking story i do enjoy now we you know we need air inside yes we absolutely that's the air inside on me that we got the other, I thought that we were going to hear from the cook on all this.
We need Aaron's side. That's got to be one of the best times of his week when this guy comes into the Waffle House and orders the eggs.
He gets a creative outlet for his work. He gets to kind of tap back into his glory days in high school.
He can still bully a nerd. There's something very sad but also very beautiful about a bully from high school, like a jo jock being so committed to how he was a jock in high school that he still acts like that into his 30s right right oh god fantastic um all right that's our show grit week get excited wednesday we're gonna have the live stream for 24 hours starting at noon and uh we also have some great guests so get excited stay.
Stay excited. If we have any doctors out there, real doctors, not the Washington football team doctors, that can advise me as to whether or not I'm putting my health in jeopardy drinking 24 beers in 24 hours.
I think I am with 24 hot dogs. I think I'm good because I'm never going to get drunk, right? I'm just going to maintain because your body exercises out one beer per hour.
.02 BAC for

24 hours. Just maintain it at .02.

A little less than a buzz. Alright,

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I'm talking

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