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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have Kenny the Jet Smith. We talk to him about NBA bubble life, working with Charles Barkley inside the NBA, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 We have Fire Fest of the Week, the big report on the Redskins being a fucked up organization has been released. We will discuss that.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, July 17th.

Speaker 1 And shocking news to absolutely no one. The Washington Redskins organization is rotten to the core.

Speaker 5 To be fair, Dan Snyder has never been accused of having the pulse of his organization in any way, shape, or form, whether that's on the field or off the field.

Speaker 5 It was a bad report.

Speaker 5 It was very, very bad.

Speaker 1 House of Creeps, basically.

Speaker 5 House of Creeps.

Speaker 5 Unfortunately,

Speaker 5 I think everybody that was named in it is no longer with the organization.

Speaker 5 That doesn't mean that it's still not like a rotten culture right there. Well, Bruce Allen, he was the one that's saying we have a damn good culture, damn strong last year.

Speaker 5 And he's gone as well. So, everybody that was really named is gone except for Snyder, who obviously is still there.
I don't think that this is going to force him to sell.

Speaker 5 No, and actually, I think that

Speaker 5 the other NFL owners, and I think a lot of NFL teams are going to look at this report and be like, Well, we can't force Snyder to sell because we all have some of the same stuff probably happening under our own roofs.

Speaker 5 Now, you're going to see a lot of people say, like, this was not as big as what we had anticipated.

Speaker 5 It was 15 different former employees different women making accusations at different like five different departments of the former redskins the r words but um it was not what the rumors were saying it was and that's i that worked in snyder's favor so like monday rumors started to trickle out tuesday they got a little worse by wednesday i saw like jeffrey epstein's name like snyder was going to be on the plane logs for that then on thursday you had the reports coming out that snyder allegedly paid off refs which that would be an all I knew he's a bad businessman, but for Snyder to pay off refs and go 3 and 13, that would be an all-time bad business move, even for him.

Speaker 1 All right, so wait, I want to back up because obviously the story itself is horrific, the fact that all these women, probably more,

Speaker 1 knowing that that's the culture there, felt so uncomfortable at work and it was such a bad culture.

Speaker 1 And credit to anyone who came forward and spoke up and was like, these guys are, this is just a terrible, terrible place, and they all should be held accountable for it.

Speaker 1 The media part pisses me off to no end because anyone who said out loud, there's a big report coming just to flex their own muscles and

Speaker 1 boost their own fucking social clout and say, I know something you don't know, get ready for it. You're a douchebag because you basically made it about that.
And it shouldn't be about that.

Speaker 1 It should be about the actual report and the women that came forward.

Speaker 5 And you actually helped out Dan Snyder by gassing this up so much.

Speaker 1 So if you sat there and like, I've been hearing, I know this, like a lot of reports, a lot of rumblings, fuck you, man.

Speaker 1 This is the worst part about social media and how the media works now, where everyone has to try to flex about how they have something before everyone else when the actual story is bad, really bad, but because you made it such a big deal going up until Thursday night, it basically, like you just said, it makes, it almost lets Dan Snyder skate by being like, well, there there weren't that the things that we thought were going to be there there people were sharing text messages pretending that they were in the know i got the same text message tweeted at me and sent to me like a hundred times on thursday everyone being like here are the details it was crazy so maybe i listen i'm not even going to pretend that the media is going to do it differently next time because they won't they'll do the same thing they'll do the same exact thing and they'll they'll make the same mistakes but it should be called out because it sucks that it kind of overshadowed uh all the women that came for it it is a it's a bad report And if you look at what came out in Carolina a couple years ago with Jerry Richardson, remember Jean's Friday?

Speaker 5 That whole thing? It's very similar. In fact, you could make the argument that this is worse in a lot of ways.

Speaker 5 It doesn't directly name Dan Snyder, except for saying he was absolutely aware of it and he shouldn't.

Speaker 1 And also doesn't like male cheerleaders.

Speaker 5 And he doesn't like male cheerleaders.

Speaker 5 He made one of his employees who used to be a male cheerleader in college do cartwheels to keep him entertained like a scene from succession or something like that. So

Speaker 5 it's a bad report. I don't think that Snyder is going to to sell.
I don't think that that's going to happen, even though the minority owners are trying to sell their stakes. Yep.

Speaker 5 I don't know how that's going to, that's like way above my pay grade to even understand how people with that much money go about selling minority shares in the team to like influence maybe a hostile takeover.

Speaker 5 I don't know if that's possible or not. I do own a minority share in the Breakers and the Water Dogs.
We never signed paperwork. But we never signed the paperwork.

Speaker 5 Do you think that the CEO of FedEx signed paperwork when he signed up?

Speaker 1 No, we own so much stuff that we never signed paperwork for.

Speaker 1 But that's actually good. So So if we ever have to, we can just be like, yeah, we never signed paperwork.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 So we're not culpable for anything that happens under our watch, which is always a good place to be. But yeah, it was a bad report.

Speaker 5 There's nothing positive that you can take out of this. It's not really a surprise to a lot of people that have been around Washington.
And like, I grew up a fan of the team, and it's sad.

Speaker 5 It's so sad what's happened. That's why I don't talk about them being my favorite franchise that much.

Speaker 5 I don't root for them like I root for my other favorite teams because this type of stuff is the rule, not the exception. It happens all the time.
And you know that's a poisonous culture.

Speaker 5 And it's difficult to love a team that you grew up loving for the long term when this stuff happens all the time and there's very little to be happy about. In fact, I sat down.

Speaker 5 You know, you've seen like the A to Z guide of why Redskins fans should hate Dan Snyder that Dave McKinnon wrote a while ago in the Washington City paper.

Speaker 5 You've seen like all the reasons why Dan Snyder is not a good person and why Redskins fans should not like him.

Speaker 5 But I actually think that sitting down and listing the 10 best things that have happened to the team since he's been the owner is actually worse to read it out loud. And it puts it in perspective.

Speaker 5 You're like, holy shit, this is actually, this is as good as it gets for Skins fans. So I made a top 10 list.
Do you want me to start at 10 or at 1? Wherever you want.

Speaker 1 Start at 5.

Speaker 5 Fuck, start at 5. Okay, number 5.

Speaker 1 Go 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 1, 2, 3, 4. And these are all dead serious.

Speaker 5 When I say, like, these are my favorite memories, these are the things that I look back at fondly as a Redskins fan. These are actually them.
Number five,

Speaker 5 I have looking at our coaching staff from 2012 and being like, man, we had Kyle Shanahan and we had Sean McVay and we had Matt LaFleur. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 That's good that we had. That should have been three.

Speaker 5 We had good assistants. Well, you haven't heard my top three because they get pretty good after that.

Speaker 5 Number six, we went five and three in the second half of the season with Marty Schottenheimer. And then we fired Marty right afterwards.
But still, we went five and

Speaker 5 after starting out 0-5 that year. That's pretty big, right? That's huge.
That's very memorable. Number seven, we did go 9-7 with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 5 And then on top of that, we didn't pay Kirk Cousins $90 million. Smart move.
So that's a feather in our cap right there.

Speaker 5 Number eight, we had two really good left tackles that played really well for a long time, Chris Samuels and Trenton Williams.

Speaker 5 Two guys that were awesome, stalwarts to watch on the left side, and then they both quit in their prime because they would rather quit than play for the team.

Speaker 5 That seems negative.

Speaker 5 But there's something cool about watching positive. But every game you're watching those guys, you're like, yeah, these guys are awesome.
I love having these guys. Keep positive.

Speaker 5 Number nine, Sean Taylor.

Speaker 5 Just his presence. Sean Taylor was awesome for like two and a half years when he was here.

Speaker 5 Number 10, Colt McCoy was the backup one time, and he came in during a Monday night football game and he beat Dallas. That's 10? That was 10.
That feels like a good game. A regular season game

Speaker 5 where we beat Dallas.

Speaker 5 Then you want me to go number one?

Speaker 1 One. No, go four.

Speaker 5 Okay, four. Then I'll count down to number one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Number four.
Spence gets in there.

Speaker 5 This is where it gets really good. We won five games in a row in 2005, and Clinton Portis was dressing up as characters during all his interviews.

Speaker 1 Yep, I remember that, the big glasses.

Speaker 5 And by the way, the stuff that I'm listening here, this goes back to like 97. So this is 23 years.
These are the best things that happened to us.

Speaker 5 Number four was we won five games in a row. Number three, just when Gibbs came back.

Speaker 1 Yep. Everyone's like, oh, this could work.
Yeah. And it didn't.

Speaker 5 It was an offseason where we were like, holy shit, Gibbs is back. That's awesome.
Yep.

Speaker 5 Number two was four months of Robert Griffin in 2000.

Speaker 1 I was going to say it has to be one or two.

Speaker 5 Yeah, four months, and then that cut short because the field was sandpaper.

Speaker 5 It was actually just kitty litter that we spray-painted green, and he tore his knee up because Dan Snyder told Mike Shanahan, hey, please play Robert Griffin.

Speaker 5 And then the number one best part of the Snyder era was we won a a playoff game. We beat Chris Sims on the road in a playoff game, and we scored one offensive touchdown.

Speaker 5 And Chris Sims is mean to Blake Bortles. And Chris Sims, I don't think he had a spleen at the time.
So we beat a spleenless quarterback by seven points and scored a touchdown on offense. Wins a win.

Speaker 5 And that was the best part of being a Redskins fan for the last 23 years.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. That's a pretty good top 10 list.

Speaker 5 It makes being a Bears fan seem pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 It's not competition.

Speaker 5 I'm just saying. Yeah.
I'm just saying. It's been miserable.

Speaker 1 It's awful.

Speaker 1 So I don't know what

Speaker 1 happens from here. I don't think that, like we said, I don't think Snyder gets, has to force, is forced to sell a team.
By the way, just in a total aside,

Speaker 1 as an extra like cherry on the shit sandwich that is Daniel Snyder's Washington Redskins, doing the name change on Monday, knowing that this report's coming out, what a fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 Like, what an asshole.

Speaker 5 And then he kept letting small little details trickle out during the week so that the report would have to go back and be edited and then fact-checked again so that he kept pushing it back like day by day by day.

Speaker 5 And now, but he did hire a lawyer to take a look at things. Okay.
So that will usually straighten things out if you hire a single lawyer to examine your organization.

Speaker 1 The only positive I'd say

Speaker 1 is that Darren Revelle's a fucking idiot again. Yes.
So Darren Revelle took his take.

Speaker 1 He read a story detailing rampant sexual harassment in an organization, 15 women coming forward, bravely coming forward, and his takeaway was, sorry to disappoint Redskin fans.

Speaker 1 Even in the cancel culture, that story, while horrific, isn't going to take down Daniel Snyder. That was his number one takeaway.

Speaker 1 Number one.

Speaker 1 Which is,

Speaker 1 of course, Revelle just figured out to tweet about cancel culture. You've got to look at the brands there.
Now cancel culture is officially canceled because Ravel knows about it. It's over.

Speaker 5 That's exactly right. When he gets on board something,

Speaker 5 it's either him or Chris Salizza. Once they get on the bandwagon of something, it's officially done.
You can't talk about it anymore.

Speaker 1 See ya. So

Speaker 1 the other thing that we had going on,

Speaker 1 which seems like forever ago, because there's been a lot of news today, is Twitter getting hacked and restoring itself to like 2010 Twitter when it was awesome and there were no blue check marks.

Speaker 1 And I got to say, That was awesome to watch. I was so happy to see people like no blue check marks, myself included.
Like I was, that's fun Twitter. Fun Twitter was back.

Speaker 1 This pretty much triggered it all that you could do. No, no, couldn't.
It was actually

Speaker 1 great. Were you PFT a little because you are, like, you kind of sold out when you said you were never verified, and then you did?

Speaker 5 I didn't want to. They forced it upon me.

Speaker 1 Even though, well, you also replied to the email that parts

Speaker 5 saying who wants to get rid of it. No, I gave back that checkmark.
But the extra checks were.

Speaker 1 And then I got another one.

Speaker 5 But then I got another one.

Speaker 1 On the same day as everyone else did.

Speaker 5 No, Twitter just forced it on me. It just happened to be.
Also, I never got a blue check mark because this is going to blow your mind. It's actually a white check mark that's surrounded by blue.

Speaker 1 Wow, nice privilege.

Speaker 1 It was great, though, to watch Twitter just like implode. And it was so lame to watch other people retweet their old, the blue check marks retweet their old tweets.
I hated that.

Speaker 1 It's like, you got to make it about the blue check marks. Find a burner.
Find a burner. Exactly.
Do it from a burner. You had Leroy.

Speaker 1 Billy was so nervous when I told him to give me the keys to his fucking Twitter account. He was like, what are you going to do?

Speaker 1 Like, the most guilty response possible. I was like, dude, I'm going to fire off like three tweets and you're going to get a couple hundred followers.

Speaker 5 It was kind of nice, though, just scrolling through Twitter and not reading anything about like the New York Times op-ed department

Speaker 1 harper's letter.

Speaker 5 Like it was, it was cool.

Speaker 1 Politics were taken out of Twitter.

Speaker 1 It was blissful. Yeah.
I'd actually be, I would, I would puku myself if it meant that I could just scroll a website and not be angry all the time.

Speaker 5 We are self-loathing white check marks. Oh, I hate.

Speaker 1 I hate. I mean, i have such a love-hate relationship with twitter and it's become very much hate recently

Speaker 1 it is a trash website yeah um all right so that happened hank you felt you felt awesome right you tried to do the trick ones it was a great moment not a trick ones i was just like you know trying to interact with my with my friends and you guys were unable to we weren't there liam went to my instagram comments and was like sorry about twitter bro

Speaker 1 just running up the score it's all right It's fine. What ended up happening with the hack?

Speaker 5 So they hacked into a bunch of prominent accounts and then said, if you reply to this or send me Bitcoin, I'll send you double the Bitcoin that you send me.

Speaker 5 So Elon Musk tweeted something like that out. I think they hacked Joe Biden's too.
Bill Gates.

Speaker 6 Bill Gates. Which is like,

Speaker 6 Bill Gates getting hacked is a bit more.

Speaker 1 Wait, but that's a terrible hack. Did they make any money? I think they did.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they probably made a shitload of money.

Speaker 6 Like 70 grand or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, that could have been a fake tweet.

Speaker 5 That could have been a fake tweet. Did he come from Blue Check Money?

Speaker 6 I don't know. My eyes on fake are not real or not are not up to speed this week.
I saw one tweet that was like, look at how much money this person's made. This is disgusting.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Are you going to

Speaker 1 are you officially retracting Will Smith and 50 Cent?

Speaker 1 Yes. Wow.
That's big of you. You were adamant.
I was. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 What changed? It was just one of those.

Speaker 6 I had some self-reflection. I looked myself in the mirror and I was like, you're not on your game.

Speaker 1 Was it being in company of Stephen Shea?

Speaker 6 That, and then waking up to like 100 people tweeting me being like, this was the most fake thing of all time.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's a great feeling that usually is like you know if you check your mentions and there's a common theme it's like all right this is nothing better than making a mistake and just seeing a million of those i i said russell westbrook had a triple double season like dude it was three it was like okay yeah i said what i felt but then there was the one the lg thing too yeah you know the lg

Speaker 1 well the lg thing i mean lg is i don't i i do not take back my disdain for not being able to figure out you lg is to blame yes lg if if you have like that's insane, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 If you have Hulu and you have Disney Plus as part of your apps and you don't have ESPN Plus, now you see LG, you're so fucking fuddled.

Speaker 1 LG, you're a fucking fucker.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 5 Very bitch. Very disappointing.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to Firefest.

Speaker 5 Wait, did the 50 Cent thing, did he make that? Did 50 Cent create the screenshot? Yes. He definitely did.
That's so dirty. Yeah.
So it is kind of real.

Speaker 1 That's what 50 Cent does.

Speaker 1 50 Cent is fast and loose with his Instagram account. He will post some crazy stuff.
Remember that?

Speaker 1 He was blasting some guy a year or so ago, being like, this guy owes me money and just posting about him non-stop. He does not give a fuck.
Don't get on a bad side of 50.

Speaker 6 The best was the when everyone was doing the ice bucket challenge and he just turned it into a competition between him and Floyd Mayweather trying to get him to read one page right now.

Speaker 1 Right, yeah, that's right. He's brutal.
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Speaker 1 Okay, uh, who wants to to go first? Hank.

Speaker 5 Hank, you go first. Yeah.

Speaker 6 My Fire Fest.

Speaker 6 I don't know. I have so many.

Speaker 1 Would you like to? Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 Maybe I can give you one so that you don't have to worry about which one of yours you have to pick.

Speaker 1 Yes, please do.

Speaker 5 Okay. How about have you seen what's happening with baseball? With the Nationals Yankees

Speaker 5 opening day is next Thursday. They might have to just not play the game in D.C.

Speaker 5 Instead, they have to play it in Florida.

Speaker 1 Why? Why go to Florida?

Speaker 5 Because D.C., I guess because of their restrictions, they don't allow Florida seems like a big place to go. So either Fredericksburg, Virginia, I think, or Florida.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that was going to be on my list. That was going to be on yours.

Speaker 5 Thank you for taking it.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got one for you.

Speaker 1 You got a dog.

Speaker 6 That was going to be mine.

Speaker 1 And you now have to take it to the vet, and you are late to work.

Speaker 6 And I haven't been getting a lot of sleep.

Speaker 6 But as, you know, Big Cat working with you for so long, it's nice to have something to relate to, like both being fathers now, not getting a lot of sleep. Yep.
So

Speaker 6 it's good to be able able to, you know, be on your level and understand that level of tiredness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also you're probably extra tired because

Speaker 1 your dogs had an Instagram account for like three days and already has like 17 posts.

Speaker 6 And 11,000 followers.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 Wow. Is it going to break news?

Speaker 1 How?

Speaker 6 I was thinking about that yesterday. We'll see.
We'll see. We'll talk to you.
We'll see what the Veteran Dogs Committee thinks. Norman.

Speaker 5 It'd be good to have, yeah, Norm. Is it Normie?

Speaker 1 Norman.

Speaker 5 I was telling Big Cat, we should call it Yoko Ono. It's breaking this fucking podcast up because you're always late to stuff.

Speaker 6 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Letting it out.

Speaker 5 Also, it's got a hammer.

Speaker 1 That was also

Speaker 6 that was also borderline, maybe an excuse. I kind of just forgot about that meeting and blamed the dog as the meeting you set up.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 There's nothing worse than getting a text. Like, I was walking out of my house and, like, Big Cat was like, Are you here? And like, that's like the worst text to get because I was like, uh,

Speaker 6 no.

Speaker 6 You text me. It probably means I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 1 We are in this weird zone where I feel like everyone needs to relearn the rules to society and how to like be here for a workday.

Speaker 1 Like, we opened up the office and we had everyone they sent out an email and they were like, Hey, you don't have to come in if you don't want to, like, absolutely no pressure.

Speaker 1 But there's been like eight people here. Yeah.
Like, like, everyone's like, oh, sick.

Speaker 5 Dude, having a meeting was crazy. We actually had like a business meeting the other day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it really took a day.
It's pretty much where this crew, part of my take, is like 70% of the office.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's weird to have to like get dressed and put on pants to talk business with somebody.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think you get a pass for that. But please don't, we call that a billy when you just lie about why you're late.
Don't do that. I won't.
I won't.

Speaker 6 Trust me, it's been very enlightening having to deal with that this summer. Yeah, right.
But the meeting was about Grit Week, which is going to be very exciting. More details coming soon.

Speaker 5 Grit Week is going to be a little something different this year, obviously. Because we can't go anywhere.
We can't go anywhere, but we're going to have some fun potential. We'll try to make it work.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT.

Speaker 5 My firefest of the week is Rice University.

Speaker 5 Rice University has announced that they're going to open this fall, but the classes are going to be outdoors in a tent, and you have to bring your own chair. It's B-Y-O-C for Rice.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it's actually going to be like a fire festival. I'm sure they'll hand out shitty lunches and styrofoam containers.
Blink 182 is not going to be there, most likely.

Speaker 1 That's completely ruined. Remember the day when they were like, hey, let's do class outside, and it was great.
Now that's ruined.

Speaker 5 And it's Houston. It's Houston.
So in September and October, you're going to be like, can we have class inside today, please? Damn.

Speaker 6 Bonus Firefest taxes. Oh, did you do them? I'm trying to do them.

Speaker 1 It's currently. It was yesterday.
Right. Two days ago.
And there's.

Speaker 5 You might as well just give up, though, if you haven't done it now. Just give up.
There's really no difference between not paying it now and not paying it ever.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 10 You already fought it. Once you're late, you're late.

Speaker 1 So what are you trying?

Speaker 5 You can't get really pregnant, you know?

Speaker 1 Are you actually doing them right now?

Speaker 1 Okay, well, let's walk through them.

Speaker 6 I need to get another form that I don't know where to find it.

Speaker 1 I don't don't know who to ask for.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's the worst when you're on TurboTax and it makes you go to the IRS's website and download a PDF.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like could you just upload like a random piece of paper? I don't know. And then finish it.
It's like almost like Homer Simpson bawling up his taxes and throwing it to life.

Speaker 1 Like if you upload a PDF, it will let you submit. And then once you submit, they'll be like, oh, you uploaded, like, upload a blank piece of paper.
I'm like, shit. I hit the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 And then you get an extension.

Speaker 6 Did they just upload like a podcast audio file?

Speaker 6 Oops.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. no, or I'm talking about like a blank white piece of paper and be like, fuck, I thought that it must have scanned incorrectly.

Speaker 6 And there's no, I don't know who, I literally don't know who to contact to get this, and the office isn't open, so I can't go upstairs and like ask someone.

Speaker 5 Who to contact, like at the IRS?

Speaker 6 No,

Speaker 6 I think someone here probably has the form I need.

Speaker 5 You know what you should do, Hank? Instead of putting that form on there, you should just attach a JPPEG.

Speaker 6 And this is pre-recorded. This is from Monday.
Yes, it's from Monday.

Speaker 1 You should attach a JPEG,

Speaker 5 just a picture of wood, and send it into the U.S. government.

Speaker 1 Oh, just troll them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Government loves memes, bud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tax this, bitch.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Here's your extension.

Speaker 5 Extended down to the floor.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
All right. So do that.
Do any of those things. You got this.
All right. All right, PFT, what's your fire fest?

Speaker 5 It was Rice University.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Rice University.

Speaker 5 Yeah, thoughts and prayers to all the students there that are just going to be sweating their sacks off outside.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
My Fire Fest. I have two.
One is I've already been accused of killing the word Glizzy, and that was quick.

Speaker 11 I feel like I is just getting started.

Speaker 1 Glizzies are hot dogs, and I've already been told, hey, dude, it's not cool when you say it. So that sucks.

Speaker 5 I've been seeing Glizzy a lot, though, recently. I've been seeing Glizzy memes, Glizzy pictures left and right.

Speaker 5 Why did Glizzy become such a thing?

Speaker 1 But I tweeted. I was like, yeah, I'm a Glizzy gladiator.
And then Coley, our co-worker, was like, dude, we were hoping that we could at least get this through summer

Speaker 1 before you figured it out. So, sorry, I kind of killed that.
that. And then my other firefest is I'm a father of two now.

Speaker 1 So I have my son, my actual son, and I actually have to housebreak Billy football. I'm taking it upon myself.

Speaker 7 He's been acting out.

Speaker 1 He's terrible manners. I am going to,

Speaker 1 and I want this on the record. So PFT, Hank, Jake, Liam, if Billy does something rude to you, you can absolutely come to me and blame it on me.

Speaker 1 I will take onus for it, and we will will make this boy a man after what I've seen the last week and a half. We're going to do this as a team.
Okay, Billy?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Do you have anything to say for yourself?

Speaker 1 I don't really know what I did wrong.

Speaker 1 That's the teacher's problem. I will teach you that.
I will teach you it.

Speaker 5 We definitely need to get those squirt guns for you.

Speaker 1 For people who don't know, we order dinner every single night when we work late here, and the food came, and Billy took the bag, started rifling through it, took his food out, started eating his food, and just didn't take anything else out of the bag.

Speaker 1 It was like, oh, that's all the food. And just, we're going to teach you manners.
It's just simple manners. You're not a bad person.
It's just manners.

Speaker 11 I'm very open to growth as a person. Yeah, so I'm very welcoming of this.

Speaker 1 Okay, now, and you also just are late every day.

Speaker 5 And to be fair, Billy did take his shoes off and he washed them with his other clothes.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we got steps. There's that.
We can do this. You're going to be the finest young man I've ever created.

Speaker 11 I'm very excited.

Speaker 1 Yes. I'm going to have you.
I want you to win a suit and tie on Sunday. Seriously? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake's got one for you.

Speaker 5 Look good. Feel good.
Feel good podcast. Good, Billy.

Speaker 1 That's a test, by the way.

Speaker 7 I have to wear a suit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and a tie. Billy, did you wear a thing before Jake?

Speaker 5 Did you do the thing I asked you to do two days ago?

Speaker 1 His taxes.

Speaker 1 No, the thing I asked you to do

Speaker 5 two days ago with the hashtag.

Speaker 1 Do you have a final figure for me? Uh-uh. He didn't.

Speaker 1 No, no, he didn't. He didn't want PFT.

Speaker 5 Here's the thing. Hey, Canada, I'd like to report a violation from Billy.

Speaker 1 It's on me. I won't have it done.

Speaker 1 PFT, here's a stop.

Speaker 6 That is a good thing.

Speaker 1 Here's

Speaker 1 a pre-big cat fathering Billy excuse. He would say, but dude, I got you a cherry Coke today.

Speaker 5 He did. Well, it was a Cherry Coke Zero.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And Billy, to his credit, has learned that he should show up with a Cherry Coke Zero.

Speaker 1 He comes in the office with things from Dwayne Reed, and then he's like, oh, my job here is done.

Speaker 5 I'm also pretty sure he just wants to go to Dwayne Reed anyways, just to buy snacks for you.

Speaker 1 All right, we got this, dude. We got this.
First order of business, do the thing PFT asked you two days ago. Okay.
I will. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 7 Your Fire Fest. My Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 12 I've had a pretty solid week.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 After all that. After all that being like, I'm just crushing it at work.
Next week. Home, work.
I'm doing everything great.

Speaker 1 That's so perfectly billy. You're like, no complaints here, guys.

Speaker 6 Oh, you lost your, I got one for you. You lost your whoop charger on the jet ski as well.

Speaker 1 No, I have my whoop charger.

Speaker 9 I found my whoop charger.

Speaker 1 Um, I've been hitting my head on the same board over and over again.

Speaker 11 Uh, it's pretty fun. No.
Um,

Speaker 11 uh, Firefest of the Week for St.

Speaker 11 Thomas's College in Minnesota, they are getting bumped up from D3 to D1, meaning that all the D3 recruits who are sitting on the bench at on a D3 team are now having to play a bunch of D1 schools.

Speaker 5 But now they're D1 athletes, though. Right, they're D1.

Speaker 11 It's a benefit, but then you're going to be playing D1 athletes and getting dunked on and just absolutely destroyed for the next couple years until you can recruit like D1 recruits.

Speaker 5 Spin zone, you're going to get on Sports Center a lot when you actually get dunked on by someone.

Speaker 1 It's hosting good, yeah.

Speaker 5 The Sean Bradley effect.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, it's just been a great week for me.

Speaker 1 Okay, you're crushing it, man.

Speaker 1 That's good. Here's one thing I don't have to work with you on is your confidence.
That's set.

Speaker 11 No, it's really kind of wavering.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's not.

Speaker 5 You actually do need to use dog whisperer techniques on them. So what Cesar Milan always says is when you enter a room with your dog,

Speaker 5 you don't make eye contact with it. You make eye contact and you greet everybody else.
All the humans in the room get their hellos.

Speaker 5 And then and only then do you go over to your dog and you scratch upon the ear. You say, hey, what's up? He also says three things that a happy dog needs, that a happy Billy needs.

Speaker 1 Piss on your dog?

Speaker 5 In this order. Okay? There's exercise, which Billy's been doing, I think.
We don't know. He looks kind of fat, but I think he's been

Speaker 1 dropped weight recently.

Speaker 1 Intermittent fasting,

Speaker 11 which is the reason why I'm going through the food so quickly because it's my first meal of the day.

Speaker 1 Okay. Muscle weighs more than fat, though, so you should be gaining weight.

Speaker 9 Well, I have a lot of muscle.

Speaker 5 Okay. So, number one is exercise.

Speaker 9 I 100% squat and bench more than anybody in this room.

Speaker 7 And because of that, I think that makes me the alpha.

Speaker 5 Disagree. Number two is discipline.

Speaker 5 We need to work on discipline. Yes.
You know what? We need to look ourselves in the mirror. Yes.
And maybe you know what we should do?

Speaker 5 You know how they put Cesar Milan puts those vests on dogs to make them think that they always have a job and they're always working? We should get Billy a dog vest.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And just make him have like water bottles in it all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he can carry away. A guy coax underneath his, like a St.
Bernard, underneath his chin.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just a barrel of a milkshake that you're bringing around to us. And then number three is affection.
And then only after he completes step one and two do we give him that a boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Then PFT will kiss you on the lips.
No.

Speaker 1 What if I score 70 tonight?

Speaker 5 75.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Billy, we got this, man.

Speaker 11 I'm having an amazing time.

Speaker 1 All right. We love you, Billy.
We do really love you. We wouldn't, if, if you were, if we didn't love you, we wouldn't invest our time in you.

Speaker 5 I'm serious about getting a squirt done, though, for when you act up. That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 Also, everyone online, be nice to Billy. Let's go positive reinforcement for a week.
Let's try a week of positive reinforcement for Billy. Everyone tweets something nice.

Speaker 9 It's really tough online.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. It is.
I know it is.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, two-time NBA champion inside the NBA on TNT, future Hall of Famer as a commentator, maybe.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 he has a basketball camp, a virtual basketball camp, Jet Academy, that is giving

Speaker 1 virtual basketball camp lessons right now with NBA and WNBA stars. Let's start there.
We'll get into everything else.

Speaker 1 What are you teaching everyone? Can we sign up for it? How old do you have to be? A lot of questions.

Speaker 4 There is no age limit, honestly,

Speaker 4 with the pandemic and social distancing. And thanks for having me on, guys.

Speaker 1 But, you know,

Speaker 4 my basketball camps will cancel. My kids' camps will cancel.
I'm like, you know, what are we going to do?

Speaker 4 So I thought, why should the development, if you want to, you know, from rec ball to I want to make my high school team, I want to be a great player. I want to make my AU team.

Speaker 4 Why should the development stop? So I created the Academy, the Jet Academy. And what it does is it's online.
It works on any device, anywhere, anytime. All you need is self-service or Wi-Fi.

Speaker 4 And myself, Kimball Walker, Trey Young, Victor Ladipo, all NBA All-Stars, Brianna Stewart, the WNBA MVP, Brittany Griner, we become your personal trainer for an hour and a half and an hour and a half a day.

Speaker 4 But what differentiates it, guys, is it's live. So you can ask questions, you can upload your video, and all you have to do is go to jetacademycamp.com, kind of explains everything.

Speaker 4 You come in, log in, and we could even make you guys players.

Speaker 1 Okay. We can make you guys players.

Speaker 4 JetAcademyCamp.com.

Speaker 1 Do you have anything in place, though? Like, if I were to sign up, can I skip? I'm going to skip a couple of the drills when I run out of gas and then hop back in at the end.

Speaker 1 Do you have anything for guys like me who you know are going to cheat?

Speaker 4 Those are guys, those guys I've seen through my whole career. They cheat themselves.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 4 There's guys who cheated on sprints their whole life. So you just join in the club, brother.
You're just joining the club.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 4 Just come on in, jetacademycamp.com.

Speaker 5 I was the king of getting real close to the line when we were running suicides at the end of camp, and I would get super close, but I wouldn't ever reach down and all the way touch the line.

Speaker 5 And then my favorite part of any summer basketball camp was the last day when they handed out awards, and the camp counselors were trying to figure out: okay, what do we give the award for the kid that is not very good?

Speaker 5 And they had to like invent an award for me every year. I think they gave me like best at taking charges.
Are you giving out like paper plate awards at the end of it?

Speaker 4 Um, I do have, you know, everyone who you know participates, there is things that we give out. We do not give paper plate awards, okay?

Speaker 1 So, the awards will be real.

Speaker 4 Uh, I think overall, again,

Speaker 4 uh, it's just to pull back behind the curtain of what these guys and what we've done. I always thought for me, the summertime, if I didn't work out individually, I wouldn't have made it to the NBA.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the games.

Speaker 4 It was the individual work that I put in because I knew what I needed to work on. So now you get to do side by side with Trey Young, Kimber Walker, Victor Oladipo, Brianna,

Speaker 4 Stewart. You get to go side by side with them and do the things that they felt got them there.
That's the difference. Again, jetacademycamp.com.

Speaker 1 So for people who obviously are listening, not watching this, Kenny's got an awesome flex going. He's got his grand piano behind him with framed perfectly with his Emmys on either side of his ear.

Speaker 1 That just happens to be there, right? Like you didn't, you didn't plan that. Well, I didn't even know because typically

Speaker 4 they're at the dinner table.

Speaker 1 And if I hit some

Speaker 1 teeth.

Speaker 4 just kind of you know use it as a toothpick so yeah did not know that that was there yeah so let's talk about inside the NBA because

Speaker 1 everyone loves the show. It is a cult classic.
It's a ratings classic, too. People love watching it.

Speaker 1 And I love shows like this because you know that network execs are sitting around the country trying to replicate it.

Speaker 1 And I've always thought the reason why it works is the chemistry that you guys have. And you guys are truly friends.
Maybe not Shaq all the time, but

Speaker 1 you guys are truly friends. What is the secret sauce to you if you had to define exactly why it works?

Speaker 4 Secret sauce, as I have people running behind me, I think the

Speaker 4 is the authentic, being authentic. Like there is no,

Speaker 4 like, you say this, you argue this point, you take the right, he takes the left. It's how you feel and being authentic to what it is.
So if we all think right,

Speaker 4 we're all going to think right that day. If we all think differently, we're going to think differently that day.

Speaker 4 I think a lot of shows that I've been on, or at least tried to have me on at times, you know, they would say, well, can you take this point? I'm like, but I don't believe that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but we just need a contrast.

Speaker 1 No, well, I'm not the guy.

Speaker 4 Find a guy who really believes in that. I think those are the kind of things that people read into.
They understand.

Speaker 4 We're not just arguing to argue or we're not just agreeing to disagree.

Speaker 4 We love the game. We love the players inside the game, like authentically love them in terms of fans and fandom.
But we also can cheat them we all could

Speaker 1 also could say you know you're not doing this right or you're doing it wrong so when you say just now uh you say things that you believe they're authentic so that means that what you said i think it was last week that uh lebron might be in your top 10 all time you authentically believe that yeah i think for me my top five players of all time and this is we're talking about threads of greatness like

Speaker 4 let's let's separate this we're talking about threads of greatness but you know, I'm old enough to actually have seen these guys when they were in their superpowers.

Speaker 4 So I've seen Michael Jordan in his superpowers. I've seen Kareem Abdul-Jabbar when he was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the superpower.
I've seen him when he was Lou Alsender.

Speaker 4 I've seen, you know,

Speaker 4 the greats be great. So when I'm comparing it, I'm like, well, it looks very similar to what he's doing.
Or it even looked better at times. So I'm not going on a reference of highlights.

Speaker 4 So is he on a trajectory to jump into the top five of all time? For sure. But with three championships and he's still on that trajectory, he's not there yet, in my opinion, just in my opinion.

Speaker 4 Will he be there?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he will. But is he there now?

Speaker 4 I would have Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, you know, ahead of him. I would, just personally me.

Speaker 5 So how long after you said that take, did it take for for world wide west or one of lebron's people to show up at your doorstop and just knock and just stand there and just start like pounding their fists being like hey kenny you know we got to straighten this out it wasn't it wasn't even him it was my 12-year-old son

Speaker 4 biggest lebron fan ever so we actually i did an instagram live with him on sunday uh like it's father versus son he was telling me why i was wrong And we have pictures of LeBron.

Speaker 4 He's like one of the few players that we have in the house. Like he had pictures of LeBron.
And

Speaker 4 I actually have a great deal of affinity towards LeBron.

Speaker 4 I have some backstory that, you know, about his mom and how she's taken care of my mom at times and said things of, you know, but I'm going to be honest in my opinion.

Speaker 1 I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Speaker 1 right now, I would put over him.

Speaker 4 And there's another, but like I said, the threads are great,

Speaker 4 but the Braun James trajectory. has him there, but I had to deal with in my own household first.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Have you ever put out out a take on Inside the NBA where you say it, you believe it, and then you hear from the player that you're talking about, and they object to whatever it is you're saying, and you end up changing your mind?

Speaker 4 Not in terms of something like Barbershop, this is Barbershop talk, but we're talking like you know, who's the greatest and would this team beat, but in terms of like

Speaker 4 content where it's like, No, I actually said this about you in the game, and I was right or wrong.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 4 never, never, I have changed it because I never say like,

Speaker 4 you don't play with enough heart. You don't play with enough passion.
I go, oh, you didn't get back on defense. I run to the big board and I go, here it is.

Speaker 4 Like, so I'm really backing most of my points up with

Speaker 4 film. I very rarely jump into the barbershop talk, like, who's the greatest of all time? You know, that kind of stuff.
Very rarely we do that because we're on once a week.

Speaker 4 So we're covering the game itself.

Speaker 1 If we were on every every day that's when you kind of i'm like now it's a pandemic i'm i'm going on a lot of shows i'm having a lot of fun and we start i get into the barbershop talk and so which is a little bit different yeah when you're getting after shaq can you tell his breaking point because i feel like he's had it a few times where he's been legitimately angry at you guys do you do you know like right at the limit to where to be like all right let's let's back up or does it sometimes afterwards like he's still pissed no i know the limit i know the limit.

Speaker 4 And I always push him to that limit. I want him to try.
I'm going to get him to the edge. I'm going to get him where he takes off his jackets and ready to jump over the cliff.

Speaker 4 And as soon as he goes like this, I pull him back.

Speaker 4 Like, I want him to always get to that moment, especially with Chuck. I want him to get there.
I want to throw kerosene on it. just where it becomes well done and not burnt.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I like that. You're really good at it, at kind of being a pot stir on that show.
And you just said it right there.

Speaker 5 You try to get Charles and Shaq going at each other more than you try to immediately get Shaq upset at you. What's one thing that you can say to Shaq that you know will get under his skin immediately?

Speaker 4 I have to disagree with Chuck.

Speaker 4 But if I really believe and I agree with Chuck, he gets mad at me. And I'm like, but I really do believe this.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 So anytime Chuck and I are on the same wavelength of thought,

Speaker 4 that bothers Shaq, without question.

Speaker 1 What about something that will always get under Chuck's skin? Do you have that button? I mean, I feel like

Speaker 1 he doesn't really care when people bring up the rings argument, but is does that can you bother him with that? Or is it something that

Speaker 4 gets Chuck probably most is

Speaker 4 social issues?

Speaker 4 So, like, it's not really basketball issues that bother him, but if you disagree with him,

Speaker 4 you, you know,

Speaker 4 I think that could get under his skin.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 4 I love the fact that he allows our show to talk more than sport.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Before him, you know, we were a very in-depth basketball show. Now we became a very in-depth TV show.

Speaker 4 We went from being the greatest basketball show to one of the greatest TV shows.

Speaker 1 Two different things.

Speaker 1 And it's a testament to all your guys' character, but I also think you see see it a lot right now where people are trying to figure out how can you talk politics, social issues, while also talking about sports.

Speaker 1 You guys do it authentically where it's not,

Speaker 1 it never feels like we're being preached to. It feels like it's a discussion.
I think that's the important distinction that you guys are able to navigate. And a lot of people aren't.

Speaker 1 Like a lot of shows are not able to do that.

Speaker 4 Well, you have to talk in the culture.

Speaker 4 how it affects the culture of what you're doing sometimes or your life. And if you're talking about it from a a third-person party, it doesn't resonate.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 4 we're going to talk about social issues, how it's affecting me, how it's affecting you.

Speaker 4 And so the viewpoint becomes real. But if you just say how it's affecting others and never bring in your point of view of how it affects you, then

Speaker 4 it's fake.

Speaker 5 One thing I've noticed about the show is it seems like you go into each program with kind of an idea of what you're going to talk about, but it also seems like you're very willing to to kind of throw away what the plan was if you guys get carried away or start getting hot about a particular topic how far in advance do you do you plan out to show and what like how much of the plan uh the production going into every single program that you take do you think you actually end up hitting versus how much is just like what's getting you going in the moment and we're going to continue down this path uh i have not been to a production meeting in 20 years i love it yeah i read that where you you basically got out of the second one you ever went to, and that was a genius move by you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just like, because there's nothing going to happen on a basketball fault I haven't seen, done, heard, or been part of. So it's really about analyzing what's happening.

Speaker 4 Like, I've really, and he trusts, there's a Tim Collier opportunity. He trusts that I'm going to pay attention then.

Speaker 4 Well, if I'm not going to let you out of this, are you really paying attention to things that you would never see?

Speaker 4 You know, and then like you said, if we don't always stay on course, because we would go, because if I was sitting there, I would be like, okay, why are you wearing sunglasses and he's not?

Speaker 4 Is it brighter for him him and then not for you? And we would talk about your sunglasses. And why are you wearing sunglasses and he's not? Is it brighter in there than for you or not?

Speaker 1 I've got an eye issue.

Speaker 5 Plus, my eyes are so beautiful that it would distract from anybody that's watching this right now.

Speaker 5 They'd just be focused in just trying to be like, how can I get with that dude over there instead of paying attention to you?

Speaker 4 I'm not saying it's not true.

Speaker 5 These basketball points that you're making.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying what you just said is not true, but now I know why.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 are you going into the bubble?

Speaker 4 As of now, there's nothing concrete.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 But there is a plan for us to possibly want us to go.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure if it would help.

Speaker 4 I would probably like to experience it to see it, but then

Speaker 4 that's my mind saying that. But my body is like, why would I want to do that?

Speaker 1 So how do you, you know, playing in the NBA and knowing these guys are now going to be isolated somewhat

Speaker 1 from their families, from the outside world, how do you think that's going to affect a team that has to be there for like two, three months? Do you think it's going to be,

Speaker 1 you know, they're going to come together more? Or do you think there's going to be that lack of release where guys are able to go out and be apart from the team and let loose?

Speaker 1 And now they don't have that?

Speaker 4 I don't know if there's any correct answer. You know,

Speaker 4 I have no idea.

Speaker 1 For me,

Speaker 4 you know, I've been on like select teams that's been overseas for the whole summer, away from your family. That kind of has that kind of feel.

Speaker 4 And what you're just, you're just running around with 12 to 15 guys all summer. So

Speaker 4 I think it has that feeling to it.

Speaker 4 When you're in it, you don't,

Speaker 4 the days aren't as long as you might think because you're practicing and the exhaustion of practicing. You know, like you need your sleep.

Speaker 1 Like you're going hard.

Speaker 4 And a lot of times those teams now are going twice a day. Guys are coming back doing their own individual work.
So that first

Speaker 4 month kind of breezes by.

Speaker 4 It's actually when there's less teams there. Right.
Because then there's going to be space in between games where it's not everyone's playing.

Speaker 4 Because when people are playing now, everyone's going to be, oh, let me watch this game. Let me see who's playing.

Speaker 1 Let me go over it.

Speaker 4 But then when it's like, no, it's only six teams left, four teams left. That's when I, that's this mental strain, I think,

Speaker 1 more than anything.

Speaker 5 Who do you think it's going to favor more? A team that's got more of a veteran presence on it where they might not feel that itch to have to go out and party all the time or

Speaker 5 just go

Speaker 5 entertain themselves at night or a younger team that has more energy naturally and they're able to bounce back and recover from games quicker.

Speaker 4 Well, the party all the time is what keeps you motivated.

Speaker 4 That team is going to lose no matter what.

Speaker 1 But I think

Speaker 4 the younger teams have an advantage because... The lack of experience of playing on the road is no longer a factor.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 4 Everybody's in the same boat. There's no fans.
There's no anxiety of that. So you just kind of go at it.
So for me, I think the lack of anxiety to actually play on the road is big.

Speaker 1 I would assume, though, you also played with guys who they didn't really wake up until they were in front of a crowd. Do you think that's going to be weird for them where the great ones?

Speaker 1 I never played.

Speaker 4 None of the great players I played with didn't play great at other times. So

Speaker 4 marginal guys, yes, but not great players.

Speaker 5 What about shooting? Do you think that it's going to be tougher to shoot when there's not a crowd behind the basket or is it going to be easier?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no.

Speaker 4 I don't think that differentiates it for me.

Speaker 1 We're asking you gamblers. I'm asking his guests.

Speaker 5 Should I take the overs, should I bet overs or unders?

Speaker 1 These are just us dancing around gambling questions. Tell us who's going to win in whole.

Speaker 4 I would say that

Speaker 4 the lack of anxiety is going to allow players that you probably didn't think were great players

Speaker 1 go out.

Speaker 4 This guy's not bad.

Speaker 4 Now I see what he's in the league at that level for, because he's going to give extra minutes because he's not going to have that away crowd or that travel or that all of the responsibilities other than basketball, they're going to play better.

Speaker 4 So if you want your things,

Speaker 4 some guys are going to average more than 10 points that typically don't.

Speaker 1 So you think Ben Simmons is going to finally hit a three?

Speaker 4 Oh, without question. He'll shoot threes.
In this environment, he'll shoot two because the anxiety won't be there.

Speaker 4 I guarantee in his first game, he'll hit a three. His first game.

Speaker 1 I actually like that. I actually agree with you because I think that part a lot of his not taking threes has been mental and the crowd's reaction.
And everybody, oh,

Speaker 1 let it go. Yeah.
Let it go.

Speaker 5 I like that a lot. Yeah.
I'm going to absolutely hammer that prop. What player in the NBA right now do you think, like, is there somebody that you've got your eye on?

Speaker 5 Like, when this guy retires, he would fit in really well with our group on TNT.

Speaker 4 Man, you know, God bless him was, you know, Kobe Bryant was one. I was hoping and praying that he would, you know, come to, I was like, that would be the ultimate five.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 4 you had, if we had the ability to have Kobe on one end and Shaq on the other, you know, and just being able to combat the stories that Shaq always lies about.

Speaker 4 You know, about the championship runs. And then

Speaker 4 I just think that would have been the ultimate

Speaker 1 man that would have been the ultimate partner and it would have been a five-man death and we would have been like the Jackson five he would have elevated us I'd have been I would have got famous going through hotels people would have been stopping me every second because I'm part of the Jackson five and I wouldn't have been Tito yeah yeah um we had Horace Grant on the show a couple months ago and we asked him about the famous Nick Anderson game you obviously were on the rockets then he said that if Nick Anderson hits one of those free throws, that's a different series and the Magic probably win it, win the championship.

Speaker 1 From your perspective, watching that happen. Win it all? Yeah.
He said that that killed their confidence. And, you know, they're a young team and they had the game won and that happens.

Speaker 1 And it's like, oh, man,

Speaker 1 this stage might be too big for us. When you're watching that on the court,

Speaker 1 is there a small part of you that's like, man, this is brutal for this guy. He can't fucking hit a free throw.

Speaker 4 No, I was not. I wasn't nervous for him.
i was happy because i got to shoot the three to tie it up to send it in overtime yeah so which kind of broke an nba record on that for me so no i was not

Speaker 4 i i and you're a competitor you're not feeling sad for the other person i'm just being honest but um

Speaker 4 i'm interested they said that because

Speaker 4 i don't think they would have won the championship maybe it would have been closer Right. If they felt that way, but obviously it would have won a game because they didn't win any.

Speaker 1 Right. So they would have won one.

Speaker 4 but the reason i say that is because as the rockets we we played phoenix that year

Speaker 4 and we lost i think or the year before we lost two games

Speaker 4 and we were up 20 both games and they came back and beat us and we were down 3-1 but that's what makes you the champion is that you could take the adversity and go, no, we're not going to lose our confidence over this because we really had them and we're going to beat them because that's how we would have thought we'd have been like

Speaker 4 when the hell is kenny smith gonna miss four free throws or nick anderson gonna miss four free throws again in a game like that's how we would have been saying right like that's never gonna happen we were up 20

Speaker 4 he missed four free throws when's that gonna happen we're gonna smack these guys and that's the momentum that we would have had differently

Speaker 4 so i i I don't think that they had the mindset of a champion then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I see what you're saying. That's a good point.
I just, it's always

Speaker 4 what we would have been saying in a locker room that though. Right.
We would have been encouraged by that, not discouraged, honestly.

Speaker 1 And it's always weird watching younger teams having that fragile nature where when things start to go wrong, if they haven't really experienced it at that level, like you're saying,

Speaker 1 they can't really rebound from it. They can't be like, all right, let's figure this out.
That's surprising me.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That surprised me because, yeah, I would have.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I wouldn't think, I wouldn't have thought that they would have felt that way.

Speaker 4 I definitely wouldn't have.

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Speaker 5 And now back to Kenny the Jet Smith.

Speaker 5 You also had the take that you think that even if Jordan had been on the Bulls, your Rockets team would have been able to handle your business and take care of the Bulls in the finals for those two years.

Speaker 5 You still, you stand by that take still?

Speaker 4 I think Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen in my life, but I don't think he had the greatest teams those two years.

Speaker 4 And the reason was the guy that you were talking to, Horace Grant, was in Orlando. And then Dennis Rodman at the time was in San Antonio.

Speaker 4 So they didn't have the two pieces that helped them win the first three or the second three, and

Speaker 4 they weren't there yet.

Speaker 4 And I think, you know, I think the reason they lost to Orlando, even when Michael came back and was wearing number 45

Speaker 4 and switched to 23, was not because he wasn't good enough. I just think his team wasn't good enough because

Speaker 4 Horace was in Orlando.

Speaker 1 So they were small.

Speaker 4 Shaq killing him inside.

Speaker 4 Horace offensive rebound. Petty posting up.

Speaker 4 They lost 4-2.

Speaker 4 We swept that team.

Speaker 4 So they just weren't good enough as a team. Michael was still the best player, but he's got 55 that year.
I think he averaged close to 30 in the playoffs that year.

Speaker 4 But if they were bigger,

Speaker 4 man,

Speaker 4 if they had Rodman, I'd have been like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, them two rings.

Speaker 4 I'd have been like, oh, they're in the Mountaineer case, but I don't know if they beat. No, but without Horace Grant and without

Speaker 5 rodman no i don't think they would have done it are you concerned that by saying that jordan's going to take that personally and he's going to like invent a time machine just to go back in time to kick your ass in those playoffs i i took i took it personally that they didn't put us more in the documentary yeah

Speaker 1 yeah what you you played with mj obviously at north carolina when you were a freshman did you at that moment did you know like this guy is just different than everyone else no you didn't know you saw the growth though like michael's the only player I ever met that when I met him

Speaker 4 as a basketball player, the things that he was, his weaknesses,

Speaker 4 by the time three years later, we were talking, those were his strengths. Like, I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 oh, you know, he's not really a great jump shooter. His ball handling is okay.
No, those are the best two things he does.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Like, what, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 Like, it went from not being the best to being that to me. I've never seen a

Speaker 4 LeBron is great

Speaker 4 You know, I don't know if his weaknesses that he came into the league is that Kobe

Speaker 4 You know Kobe, you know, he's done he's done that at times as well though.

Speaker 1 Yeah

Speaker 4 Consistent basis

Speaker 4 You know magic You know magic wasn't a great three point he became a better three-point shooter, but it wasn't like he became the best three-point shooter in the league Like Michael became the best at it.

Speaker 4 Like that to me separated him than anything else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the adding on every summer of being like hey i'm gonna add this to my game no no no it's different from adding yeah we're talking about it's your strength yeah like kareem he you know he had the sky hook and then all of a sudden you go no no no when he left the league he shot threes better than anyone yeah

Speaker 1 wait a minute like what what why do you think that uh hakeem elijah is like maybe one of the most underrated guys of all time.

Speaker 1 It feels like he doesn't get discussed in the same way when you're talking about all-time greats, but he was an all-time great.

Speaker 4 He didn't, you know,

Speaker 4 without question, top 10, 11, at best, you know, player ever to play the game. But, you know, the social media, you know, the

Speaker 4 he wasn't, didn't have a Nike deal, had a tonic deal.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 The shoe doesn't exist anymore. You know, like, he just

Speaker 4 revelation, it just never, like, socially, people didn't, he didn't embrace that.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 You know, in that era. So I think that's more to do it than anything else.
But as long as he has me on television, I'm going to pipe his praises all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're the perfect hype man.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot of talk about you joining a front office. I think you even admitted that eventually you will.
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

Speaker 1 You also said, I was reading an article that you said, every team in the league has told me something they've told no one else. So you want to prove it? You want to just go down the list?

Speaker 1 Like, what have the calves told you that you they've told no one else what year just you say it give us spell the tea it's like for me it's kind of like i always get the call and saying they'll also i get

Speaker 4 because i i the difference is

Speaker 4 i talk to runners agents players general managers and owners.

Speaker 4 I'm like, there's no one over the course of time that has that wealth of information that consistently needs to use it. So for me, you know,

Speaker 4 I knew Bennett was going to be number one pick.

Speaker 1 Did you try to talk him out of it?

Speaker 4 No, it's not my job because that wasn't a question. Like, I only answer the question that people ask me.

Speaker 1 I don't work for you.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 if you go, do you think it's a good pick? I'm not going to go. yes or no.
Then I'll say yes or no. But if you say, do you know about him? What is his strengths and weaknesses?

Speaker 4 because we're thinking about taking him number one

Speaker 1 you know what's i'm gonna tell you his strengths and weaknesses yeah you got to be really specific to get the information if you wanted out of me that i know i'm not going to just say things i hear that you should know also okay so specific question what's uh one thing that you were told before everyone else that turned out to be true that you didn't get like maybe credit for of breaking the news but will let you will allow you in this moment to be like oh i knew that before Woge.

Speaker 1 I knew that before Shams. I knew that before everyone.

Speaker 4 Well, I say, I'm not really a breaker of news.

Speaker 1 So I don't have like that.

Speaker 4 I don't get like

Speaker 4 this trade is about to happen.

Speaker 1 I get

Speaker 4 this is what happened in practice. What should we do with this player from a player's point of view? How should we discipline this guy? What would you want if as a

Speaker 4 player, how would that make you feel? Or players call me and go, well, this has happened to me with ownership.

Speaker 4 how should i react to him this way so i don't look this way or this i need to get this message out so i don't want it to look like i'm you know doing this on a team and this is not really so i get more of that than like the secret sauce of who got traded okay i get the information that make you makes that would make you a better player team or organization that's what i that's the information that i usually get asked about, or I have the information that you need to do that.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's drill it down even further then. So, we're good friends with Blake Griffin.
Uh, that the Lobb City Clippers, why was the demise of the Lobb City Clippers all Chris Paul's fault?

Speaker 4 I don't know if it was all Chris Paul's fault.

Speaker 1 I don't know that if that's accurate.

Speaker 1 Kenny's scratching his chin, he's looking up to the fault. Yeah, I don't know if that's accurate.

Speaker 4 I would get like if that happened, let's say in that time, I would get a call like

Speaker 4 I'm having an issue dealing with. Let's say, let's say if it's Chris or this didn't happen, I'm just saying how it hypothetically would happen.

Speaker 4 I would get a call from Chris and he would say, well, you know, I'm dealing with my big

Speaker 4 and blake, and this is the problem I'm having. Every time I give him this information, he's taking it this way.
What's a better way to do it? So you see what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now I already know that there might be some information about, oh, there's some friction, but I'm helping you solve it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm not getting a call like, yo, Chris Paul's a jerk.

Speaker 4 Hey, see you later. Say it on TV.
I'm not getting that call.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, how, all right, so let's go to something real.
That was more of an inside joke because we always just try to have Blake Griffin's back. The Kyrie LeBron fallout.

Speaker 4 Well, I'll give you some information about Blake.

Speaker 1 Okay. I was the one who told him to jump over the car.
Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 4 I was his.

Speaker 4 They gave me his as a dunk consultant.

Speaker 4 So I was his dunk consultant. And I,

Speaker 4 The original dunk, he was going to dunk over a Bentley

Speaker 4 and throw it up in the air, throw Alleyu and dunk over Bentley. But because the NBA had a deal with Kia,

Speaker 4 they made him use the Kia.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah, that's good.
That's how it happened. So that's the inside of that.

Speaker 5 And I think Blake said that he wanted to jump over a convertible initially.

Speaker 1 Well, it was a convertible Bentley.

Speaker 5 Yeah, convertible Bentley. I think he said that on our show.
And then he got a lot of people.

Speaker 4 Because Kevin Smith came in with the idea

Speaker 4 and said, I'm going to bring, and I said, I want to have a choir singing. I could believe I could fly, I'll be like the preacher.
And I did the whole hype man thing, and he came out.

Speaker 4 I could believe I could fly.

Speaker 1 He had the choir, and he jumped over it. Great moment.
So, all right. So, so background stuff that Kenny Smith knows.
Uh, Kyrie going from Cleveland to Boston and Boston to the Nets.

Speaker 1 What has been going on? Like, what have you been hearing about a guy like Kyrie? And did you see

Speaker 1 stuff happening?

Speaker 4 That's, again, that's Woe's stuff.

Speaker 1 That's... Oh, no, really.
Because he had issues, right?

Speaker 4 No, that's Stephen A. But you're still thinking of as

Speaker 4 a negative call.

Speaker 4 Like, it's also a positive thought process that calls. It's like, I'm in this moment.
How do I get better?

Speaker 4 You know, it's not always, this guy sucks. How do I get rid of him? How do I trade him? What would you do? It's more like,

Speaker 4 man, we just drafted.

Speaker 4 We just traded for Kyrie.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 How, like, as a point guard, what can I put in place to make him flourish? Like, I would get that call.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 what about? Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 5 What about

Speaker 4 how do I make my organization better? Not always, how do I tear down the guy next to me?

Speaker 5 Would you ever make a call without them reaching out to you? Like, would you ever call James Harden and be like, hey, maybe don't get sick with the flu before this playoff game next year?

Speaker 4 I very rarely offer advice to players.

Speaker 4 Management, I would call. I would call a general manager, an owner, a team president, you know, different relationship because I know how I feel as a player.

Speaker 4 A player should always, first line of defense, always be his coaching staff. So when you, when you when you bring that into it as a fandom, a person who's around him or knows him, then

Speaker 1 you're polluting the environment.

Speaker 4 And that's not a good, that's not a place that

Speaker 4 I think I should be. I should never be the one that could pollute the environment based on, you know, I do have tenure, I do have relationship.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I never call a player first, ever. Like I never look at the game and go, yo, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 4 I was like, I wait, that call rings. Now in the summertime, hey, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Hey, financial guys, whatever it might be, because this guy, is he accurate? Oh, for sure.

Speaker 4 I'll lead you in the right direction, but I'm never in the middle of it going to pollute your team because I don't know how you even got to that place sometime through your practices.

Speaker 4 Like, have you been in practice doing the right things? Have you, have they, the interactions? Sometimes I don't know how you got there. Right.
So I don't like to pollute that in mind.

Speaker 1 Okay, I have one last question. It's actually my most important question.

Speaker 1 I'm very curious, what is the buffet scene like

Speaker 1 behind this, you know, before inside the NBA or when you guys are watching games? What's that like? What are we eating? What are Shaq, or Shaq and Charles just going to town?

Speaker 1 I'd imagine it's pretty good, right?

Speaker 4 It's like what's behind you. It's the weights.
It's heavy, brother.

Speaker 1 Heavy.

Speaker 4 That buffet is pretty heavy.

Speaker 4 It's a smorgasbord of different

Speaker 1 ethnic foods.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 sometimes you go, okay, it's Italian night. It's never just Italian.
It's never just Asian night.

Speaker 4 It's everything. It's soul food.
It's Asian. It's Italian.
It's everything.

Speaker 4 It's a collection.

Speaker 4 It's never just, it's never just Taco Tuesday.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Do you ever, do you ever like, are you ever sitting there in awe? Or can you tell when Shaq or Charles are in the zone? It's like, damn, they're putting it on tonight. Like, they're going for it.

Speaker 4 I have to be careful

Speaker 4 not to put on my 15-pound curve with them because it's so much around, and you just walk by and you see a cupcake and

Speaker 4 how you walk, Bonnie, see, you know, see some pasta, a slice of pizza, and you just grab it because you're just, it's nervous eating. Yeah.
I have to be careful not to nervous eat around those guys.

Speaker 5 Is there a hierarchy in terms of who gets to hit certain parts of the buffet first? Do people have to wait their turn?

Speaker 4 Oh, no, see, the difference is it's not a buffet.

Speaker 4 We have complants to order at any any restaurant oh i like that oh so it is it's complant who's the captain though who's the who's the guy who's calling the shots on where you're ordering from i have the longest tenure so i'm always first okay but you can order from anywhere yeah chuck's just adding on i love yeah they're just adding on they you know the runner is just hoping that they want to eat at the same place i do so he doesn't have to go to eight places but he's typically going to five restaurants in a night oh that's perfect that's that's like i mean we have a mini version where one guys was invented and and postmates were invented because of us.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, we do something similar where we just sit here and we just like half of our night is deciding where we're going to order from. But we only usually do one or two restaurants, not five.

Speaker 1 We got to up our game.

Speaker 1 This has been awesome, Kenny. Oh, one last question: Is Jimmy Butler a top 15 player

Speaker 1 in the NBA now? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, I thought you were. I didn't know if he met all time or something.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 4 without having a list in front of me, yeah,

Speaker 4 he's definitely top five in his position.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
There's

Speaker 5 two positions. He's probably around 25.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's definitely top five in his position.

Speaker 4 You know, without having a list in front of him.

Speaker 1 Well, he might be four in his position. It might be three in his position.

Speaker 4 It's not 10 guys better than Jimmy Butler at the two-guard position. Without question, no.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 That's a long-standing beef we have on the show. It sounds like you're saying he's anywhere between

Speaker 5 six and 25 at his position.

Speaker 1 So you don't measure that way in the NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Since Dwayne Wade retired, who were the top two guards in the league? You know, that's kind of

Speaker 4 where you have to kind of start.

Speaker 5 Sounds like you're saying 16. And the session

Speaker 1 is kind of out of, like, no one really cares. Stretch for the wing player,

Speaker 4 he's definitely in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He would be a guy that I'm going to sort after and go get. I'm also going to.

Speaker 4 If I was running a team, you would be a guy I go get.

Speaker 1 Which you will be someday.

Speaker 1 Kenny, this has been awesome. We really appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 5 Let me get a lock before we let you go so we can make some headlines. Give me your guarantee who's winning the title this year.

Speaker 4 I will say that, you know, before it started, I would have said Lakers, Clippers, whoever wins, and Milwaukee. I will say one of those,

Speaker 4 there's another team that will be in the NBA Finals besides those three.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I don't know who it is because because I got to see.

Speaker 4 Some guys might have guts, guys got beards. I have no idea.
I might not even recognize certain guys. So they're going to have different last names on them, jerseys.

Speaker 4 Like, I got to figure out who's there.

Speaker 4 But it will not be the people that were leading the way

Speaker 4 when things stop.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we're just going to take liberty with that and say that you're predicting the Nets to win the NBA title. Nets, Pelicans.

Speaker 4 I would say, don't be surprised if you see Denver, Dallas,

Speaker 4 or Boston in the finals.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

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I'll take care of you.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks, man.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 it seems like with every passing day college football is in more of a precarious situation to actually go off on time. If I had to bet right now,

Speaker 1 I actually don't know. I don't even fucking know.

Speaker 5 It's just

Speaker 1 bummed. I'm just bummed.

Speaker 5 I still think I think NFL is going to happen. I don't know if college football is going to happen.
I saw something from JJ Watt earlier today that actually made me a little nervous.

Speaker 5 He listed all the things that need to happen in order for them to get to training camp. Yeah.
I think training camp starts in like a week and a half or something like that.

Speaker 5 And they still don't have any, they don't have testing. They don't have basically anything that you need to get back.
It might not open on time, but I still think we're going to get NFL.

Speaker 5 I'm not very confident in college football after reading the statements from Sankey of the SEC

Speaker 5 and from Emmert from the NCAA.

Speaker 1 It's so bad that Rick Petino is the only one who's making sense. Rick Petino keeps saying we need to push the college basketball season to January 1st so that we can somehow preserve March madness.

Speaker 1 Rick Petino, push it now.

Speaker 5 Big delay guy.

Speaker 1 Rick Petino is the guy who is speaking the most sense don't like unfortunately it feels like everyone

Speaker 1 in charge is using our brains for this where they're like saying to themselves let's just wait a couple weeks and maybe this will go away maybe it'll just stop yeah maybe they are literally using our logic and we are dumb fucking people i think that the ncaa probably had something to do with the twitter shutdown because then all the white check marks out there were not saying all the doom and gloom stuff about it not happening.

Speaker 5 So they're just reading the timeline. They're like, yeah, that's awesome.
I think we can make this happen.

Speaker 1 It's so bad that I've read all these statements and everyone talking about it. And I'm like, wait, you're thinking like me.
And I'm an idiot.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the reality is that you learn this as you become an adult, but nobody has any idea what the fuck they're talking about ever. Right.

Speaker 1 Who's the person in charge? We need someone to figure this out to keep football. But yeah, I'm pretty sure the NFL is running the same exact playbook where they're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 August 1st is so far away, and they've been saying that to themselves for the last five months. Guess what? August 1st is two weeks away.
You know what we need?

Speaker 5 We need some sort of czar.

Speaker 5 I feel like there haven't been enough czars in the news recently.

Speaker 5 If Roger Goodell just appointed like a COVID czar to make all these decisions for him, then at least at that point, he's like, it's off my shoulders. I've got my czar telling me what to do.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then it's just a lackey for him.

Speaker 1 And then the czar is just Simmons and Sal talking on a podcast.

Speaker 5 Basically, that's, yeah. Just Mike Greenberg be the

Speaker 1 star. Yeah, that works too.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's happening. I don't know college football.

Speaker 1 I'm bummed. But, all right, we're going to stay positive.
Stay positive. We're going to do the thing we're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 It's going to figure itself out. It's going to happen.
Listen.

Speaker 5 It's going to figure itself out, guys. College football.

Speaker 1 Something's going to happen.

Speaker 5 Last week of August, we're going to have week zero.

Speaker 1 Did you hear about this? The vaccine?

Speaker 5 Yeah, the vaccine's going to happen. It could happen.
There's the medicine that some people on Twitter say works perfectly, and other people say it doesn't work at all.

Speaker 1 Open air? Yeah. Coronavirus can't live in the air.

Speaker 5 Or it goes away in the summertime.

Speaker 1 Summertime, hot, heat.

Speaker 5 It's good. I'm actually starting to talk myself into the idea that maybe springtime college football might even be cooler.

Speaker 5 I don't know why, but I'm just convincing myself, like, maybe weekends are just strictly for NFL this year.

Speaker 5 And that's, by the way, one thing that we haven't thought about is the implications on fantasy football with like players that might be testing positive later on in the week.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're going to have to have a corona waiver.

Speaker 5 The waiver wire is going to be intense. Matthew Berry has probably just been heads down just coding brand new applications.

Speaker 1 Reading about all this stuff. Yeah.
Oh, Michelle Obama's got a podcast. Come on.
Yeah, I just saw that in my What's Happening.

Speaker 1 Promoted by Spotify.

Speaker 5 Is she co-hosting or is it just her, strictly Michelle?

Speaker 1 Sure. We're fucked.

Speaker 1 Cancel it. Cancel PMT.
All right.

Speaker 1 We have Bubble Talk.

Speaker 1 Dwight Howard got caught without a mask. Snitch line.
The snitch line has been popping. I do not know why the NBA is not giving us a live stream of the snitch line.

Speaker 1 Like when a bald eagle is about to have a baby. Just give us some, give us Wind Horse sitting in a room just picking up the phone and being like, oh, Dame Lillard, what'd you say?

Speaker 1 Dwight Howard's not wearing a mask? Okay, cool.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think Dwight Howard probably snitched on himself. I think he just wanted a break.

Speaker 1 I have a feeling, is Jeff Van Gundy in the bubble? I would assume.

Speaker 5 Because he's going to call games? He'll probably be there, yeah. So he probably snitched on him for

Speaker 1 finally getting back for his brother.

Speaker 6 Stan Mangundi joined Twitter recently. He's electric.
So he might have. Did you guys see his cookie tweet?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's what a sentence.

Speaker 6 As I pull this up, I'm just going to make a prediction. Oh, I did see that.
Yeah, they're going to ban players from shotgunning beers on camera because it's probably like insensitive.

Speaker 6 I'm waiting for that to happen. Because that's been a trend where all the players are shotgunning beers.

Speaker 1 It's also a very funny trend to watch. NBA players, when you take away their ability to move around and be like, they're richer than everyone, but they can't spend their money.

Speaker 1 They just resort to being college kids again. They're just us.
It's great. Like, it's basically like the walking backwards in evolution.
Like, oh, what do we do? I don't know. Shotgun some beers.

Speaker 6 If you walk into a supermarket and buy store-bought cookies, would you really buy anything other than Chips Ahoy? Seems like such an obvious choice to me.

Speaker 1 That was Stan Van?

Speaker 5 Yeah. Stan Van, I would say Oreos, maybe.
Nice double stuff.

Speaker 1 Oreos. Oh, so wait, just store-bought?

Speaker 6 Yeah, he's just blinded by the Chips Ahoy.

Speaker 1 What about Tates?

Speaker 6 Chips Ahoy Chewy. Tates are not like everywhere.

Speaker 5 I would say Chips Ahoy Chewy Double Stuff Oreos are the Goats.

Speaker 1 I need a crunch in mind. I go Chips Ahoy M ⁇ M.
I need a crunch. I think I need a crunch.
They're a hard crunch.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's bubble update.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're more of like a cake. They're like a precursor to like a power bar.
Yeah. They're in the cookie aisle.

Speaker 5 I'll put it this way. I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of stuff in there.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't be shocked if you

Speaker 5 if you cut into a shoe

Speaker 5 and it was a Fig Newton inside. That would not really surprise me.

Speaker 6 It's a frosting sandwich.

Speaker 1 Timeout. Say what you said again, PFT, and then I'm going to say what I'm about to say.

Speaker 5 No, I'm just saying, like, Fig Newton is a cake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. Agreed.

Speaker 1 It's a weird thing. And Oreo is a frosting sandwich.
We just said Oreo is not a cookie.

Speaker 5 You said an Oreo is a sandwich?

Speaker 5 No, it's not. It's a Glizzy.
It's a Glizzy.

Speaker 1 It's cookies.

Speaker 5 Is a Glizzy a sandwich?

Speaker 1 It's not one cookie.

Speaker 6 It's not one thing. I don't care about your Google Fig Newton pastry.

Speaker 1 What? It's pastry. Fig Newton.

Speaker 1 Yeah. God damn it.

Speaker 1 It is a type of pastry. It's on me, guys.
That's on me. That's on me.
I told told him.

Speaker 1 I didn't tell him. It is a type of pastry.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just kidding with you. You're good.
I was having such a fucking great day. You fucking did this podcast.
Hey, you were having a great day of doing nothing.

Speaker 5 No, I wore my fucking favorite tank, and it was like Friday energy.

Speaker 1 Go off, Billy. Let it off, fucking

Speaker 1 went off on me. Go, not a Chad.
I didn't even go off on you. I said I was going to help you.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Give us...

Speaker 1 Billy gets 60 seconds here. Go off on the haters.
You can put me in the hater group, but I love you. I don't want to.
I don't want to. I'm not going to do it.
Wow. See, he's already learning.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be a bigger man. That's good.
Some say even too big of a man.

Speaker 5 You know what you just did? That was like you taking an aggressive dog's food away as they were eating, and he just let you do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You didn't bite my hand.
That was good, Bill. That was awesome.
You were all wound up.

Speaker 5 That's a good boy. Good job.

Speaker 1 Cook eye. Yeah, cook eye?

Speaker 1 What? No, they're.

Speaker 1 If you took an Oreoo. What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 6 You took an Oreo and took the top part off. That single black chip is a cookie.

Speaker 1 Are you saying saying that an Oreo is not a cookie? Oreos are cookies?

Speaker 6 It's a frosting sandwich.

Speaker 5 This is the most disgusting thing you've ever said, Hank.

Speaker 1 Billy, Oreos cookies. Hank, you would know.
It's just a douchebag.

Speaker 1 It's an ice bag. I can't say it.

Speaker 5 All right, it's a douchebag.

Speaker 1 I can't say anything.

Speaker 1 You're the fucking one that eats.

Speaker 6 You eat them every single day.

Speaker 5 Yes, ice cream sandwiches are cookies.

Speaker 1 Fuck cookies.

Speaker 1 If an ice cream sandwich is a cookie, if ice cream is cooked. Ice cream sandwich isn't a fucking cookie.
Then neither is Oreo. It's the same thing.
We're only the one. Doesn't it ain't fucking matter?

Speaker 1 Yes, get mad, Billy. He's still mad.

Speaker 1 Get it.

Speaker 5 Get it. Hank, rules matter in this society, okay? An ice cream sandwich has malleable bread on the outside.
It's like a chocolate bread almost on the outside.

Speaker 6 What? Ice cream sandwich with two cookies in between.

Speaker 1 That's an ice cream cookie. It's a cookie witch.
It's a cookie witch. That's what the Oreo is.
No. No.
That's not ice cream in the middle. It's frosted.
Wait, freeze-dried.

Speaker 10 Is it a free?

Speaker 10 Is an Oreo a freeze-dried ice cream sandwich?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, Billy.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 We need sports packs so fucking bad. What am I even talking about it.
I don't even want to do guys on chicks. It's a perfect ending.
What am I talking about?

Speaker 5 Hank,

Speaker 5 would you ever wash an ice cream sandwich before you ate it? No. Would you wash an Oreo with water?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Different things. What the fuck? Yeah.
What the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, try it.

Speaker 1 Try it.

Speaker 6 Next time you get some Oreos.

Speaker 5 Do you wash your Oreos? Yes.

Speaker 1 Hank does. Hank does.
It's actually delicious.

Speaker 5 No, it's not.

Speaker 8 Why?

Speaker 5 Try it. Because he's a weird.

Speaker 1 It's the same as milk. No.

Speaker 1 No. Yes.
Do that fucking shake. You doesn't eat ice cream.
And neither is Liam. Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Yes, you said your stomach makes your stomach weird and shit. Are you lactose intolerant, Jake? No, you're just a button.
Liam, you don't eat ice cream? No.

Speaker 1 Billy is

Speaker 1 spreading fake rumors. I eat ice cream.

Speaker 5 Sometimes I don't like to test my stomach with weird shit.

Speaker 1 Ice cream is weird? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, weirdo.
Douchebag. Verbal meme, we're just the fucking

Speaker 1 Orange County choppers guys. Yeah.
I don't even know what we're yelling at.

Speaker 5 Throwing shit across the room. Billy was actually mad at Liam because he thought that Liam was lactose intolerant and he thought that that was a beta trait.

Speaker 1 No, he is lactose intolerant. Wait, you're not eating ice cream.
Why don't you yell?

Speaker 1 It makes me sick. Yeah.
So he's lactose intolerant. You're lactose intolerant.

Speaker 12 Well, if he's lactose intolerant, okay, like that's like.

Speaker 1 He is. If it makes him sick, he's lactose intolerant.
You want to call him a soyboy, right? Call him a soyboy,

Speaker 1 Billy notice. No, dude, that's very hurtful.

Speaker 1 Your boy, Billy.

Speaker 1 Don't call Billy a soyboy online. Do not do that.
That's my one assistant. It's the fucking worst.
Legitimately, for the fast three weeks, everyone can call you a soyboy online in the fucking chat.

Speaker 1 I can't even hop on stream and play some fucking wars without someone and go, soy boy, soy boy, soy boy. It fucking sucks.
Okay, so here it is.

Speaker 1 Everyone, please, do not call Billy Football soyboy online.

Speaker 5 Call him a soy man.

Speaker 1 Yes. I legitimately couldn't do anything for the guys.

Speaker 7 My hashtag work that I was supposed to do, come on time.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Online.

Speaker 1 I'm being cyber.

Speaker 1 You're blaming your lack of work ethic on being called a soyboy? I'm being cyber-bullied. That's the biggest soy boy thing that you can do.

Speaker 1 You can blame not being able to work on being called a soyboy. This is the best part about Billy, isn't it? If he just keeps talking, he will step in it.

Speaker 1 You just said you didn't do what PFT asked you to do two days ago because people are calling you a soyboy.

Speaker 8 No, I really don't know what to do anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, I legitimately. Well, no,

Speaker 1 you do nothing.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
You do nothing.

Speaker 10 Like, there's nothing for me to do.

Speaker 1 Get the Diet Coke applied. I Get Diet Cook's.
I legitimately, like, think about it.

Speaker 6 Okay, guys. Have a fire fest.

Speaker 1 You're in my head, right?

Speaker 10 You're in my head.

Speaker 7 You have to talk on a show, and then there's nothing else for the rest of the day.

Speaker 5 You actually really don't have to talk on the show.

Speaker 1 No, you don't even know.

Speaker 1 You just have to.

Speaker 5 You have to sit there and occasionally chime in. Say something funny.
Give us your thoughts.

Speaker 1 Right. Anyway.
You know what, Billy?

Speaker 5 I'll put this way. You don't have to be funny.
You just give us your thoughts. You know what?

Speaker 1 Here's what we're also going to do, Billy. How about you start cooking for us again? I cook all the time.
None of you guys are. You're going to start cooking for food.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 1 I cook for hanging. Billy, I'm going to give you my credit card.
You're going to start cooking for us.

Speaker 5 Okay, I will cook for you guys every day.

Speaker 1 Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 We're going to start having dinner. You're going to cook it.
Okay, I will cook dinner every time.

Speaker 5 List the three things that you're best at cooking: hot dogs,

Speaker 1 glizzies, steak.

Speaker 5 Okay. No, well, you don't season it.

Speaker 7 Well, you know what? That's because I let the meat talk.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 1 We'll just work with those toasts. I'm going to work with those.

Speaker 1 You're going to get me. I want to be no carbs, too.

Speaker 1 Back on my kettle.

Speaker 5 I'm back on ketosis.

Speaker 1 All right. Perfect.
That will get you back. All right.
That is our show. Guys on chicks? No, let's end it here.
This is a perfect ending. This is a perfect ending.

Speaker 7 Come on, let me say funny shit.

Speaker 1 No, this is a perfect ending. This is a great debate about cookies and bills.

Speaker 8 What are you even talking about, Eddie?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. That's the point.
It's like, this is the perfect way to end the last week before sports start. You know what?

Speaker 5 We have seven days until sports.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, so we've made it.
When you wake up on Monday morning, we will have sports.

Speaker 5 It's sports week.

Speaker 1 It's sports week.

Speaker 5 That's it. All next week and part of my take is sports week.

Speaker 1 I've been throwback. We're going to be throwback.

Speaker 5 Dedicated to sports.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 Who would have ever thought that there would be no sports?

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Like, did you? Whoa, dude.

Speaker 5 Nah.

Speaker 5 Always has been. Damn.

Speaker 7 Like, get into sports.

Speaker 7 It's like a non

Speaker 7 like, it's always there. But then, boom, no sports.

Speaker 1 Say love you guy.

Speaker 1 Say love you guy. And then we'll let Billy, why don't you you just kind of just talk

Speaker 1 over take on me? Love you guys.

Speaker 1 I love you guys.

Speaker 9 I don't actually

Speaker 9 think people call me a soyboy because it infecting my job.

Speaker 5 Did you say infecting? I just say sports.

Speaker 7 Well, the sports. Well, like, think about this.

Speaker 12 You're like, you're seven years old. Like, sports is, like, the biggest constant in your life because you understand it.

Speaker 15 Because you don't really understand anything else like

Speaker 1 government or like school.

Speaker 15 Like, it's just sports.

Speaker 1 And then there's, like you go like eat three meals a day and then there's always sports but then you never think oh food's gonna stop sports are gonna stop like what are we like what and then it stops and now you're just in a podcast room with six dudes and you don't know what your job is anyway