Kenny The Jet Smith, Washington Post Report And A HEATED Debate

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Kenny the Jet Smith. We talked to him about NBA bubble life, working with Charles Barkley inside the NBA, all that stuff.
We have Fyre Fest of the Week. The big report on the Redskins being a fucked up organization has been released.
We will discuss that. We're going to do a little bonus Friday, guys on Chicks, because we didn't do it on Wednesday.
Bubble Talk, Pac Show. This is the last show before the first week that sports come back.
I'll say that again just to get everyone pumped up. Next week when you wake up on Monday morning, sports will be in that week.
In that week. So let's get to it before we do that.
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Today is Friday, July 17th, and shocking news to absolutely no one. The Washington Redskins organization is rotten to the core.
To be fair, Dan Snyder has never been accused of having the pulse of his organization in any way, shape, or form where that's on the field or off the field. It was a bad report.
It was very, very bad. House of creeps, basically.
House of creeps. They just got to do whatever.
Fortunately, I think everybody that was named in it is no longer with the organization. That doesn't mean that it's still not like a rotten culture right there well Bruce Allen he was he was the one that's

saying we have a damn good culture damn strong last year uh and he's gone as well so everybody

that was really named is gone except for Snyder who obviously is still there I don't think that

this is going to force him to sell no and actually I think that uh the other NFL owners and I think a

lot of NFL teams are going to look at this report and be like well we can't force Snyder to sell. No.
And actually, I think that the other NFL owners and I think a lot of NFL teams are going to look at this report and be like, well, we can't force Snyder to sell because we all have some of the same stuff probably happening under our own roofs. Now, you're going to see a lot of people say like this was not as big as what we anticipated.
It was 15 different former employees, different women making accusations at different like five different departments of the former Redskins, the R-words. But it was not what the rumors were saying it was.
And that worked in Snyder's favor. So Monday, rumors started to trickle out.
Tuesday, they got a little worse. By Wednesday, I saw Jeffrey Epstein's name.
Snyder was going to be on the plane logs for that then on Thursday you had the reports coming out that Snyder allegedly paid off refs which that would be an all I knew he's a bad businessman but for Snyder to pay off refs and go three and 13 that would be an all-time bad business move even for him uh all right so wait I want to back up because obviously the story itself is uh horrific the fact that uh all these women is probably more it knowing that that's the culture there felt so uncomfortable at work and it was such a bad culture and credit to anyone who came forward and spoke up and was like these guys are this is just a terrible terrible place and they all should be accountable for it. The media part pisses me off to no end because anyone who said out loud, there's a big report coming just to flex their own muscles and boost their own fucking social cloud and say, I know something you don't know.
Get ready for it. You're a douchebag because you basically made it about that.
And it shouldn't be about that. It should be about the actual report and the women that came forward.
You actually helped out Dan Snyder by gassing this up so much. So if you sat there like I've been hearing I know this like a lot of reports, a lot of rumblings.
Fuck you, man. This is the worst part about social media and how the media works now where everyone has to try to flex about how they have something before everyone else when the actual story is bad really bad but because you made it such a big deal going up until thursday night it basically like you just said it makes it almost lets dan snyder skate by being like well there weren't that the things that we thought were going to be there there people were sharing text messages pretending that they were in the know.
I got the same text message tweeted at me and sent to me like 100 times on Thursday. Everyone being like, here are the details.
It was crazy. So maybe, listen, I'm not even going to pretend that the media is going to do it differently next time because they won't.
They'll do the same thing. They'll do the same exact thing and they'll make the same mistakes.
But it should be called out because sucks that it kind of overshadowed uh all the women that came for it it is a it's a bad report and if you look at what came out in in carolina a couple years ago with jerry richardson remember jeans friday that whole thing it's very similar in fact you could make the argument that this is worse in a lot of ways it doesn't directly name dan snyder except for saying like he was absolutely aware of it and he he should and also doesn't like male cheerleaders and he doesn't like male cheerleaders he made one of his his employees who used to be a male cheerleader in college do cartwheels uh to keep him entertained like a scene from succession or something like that so it was um it's a bad report i don't think that snyder's gonna sell i don't think that that's gonna happen even though the minority owners are trying to sell their stakes. Yep.
I don't know how that's going to... That's, like, way above my pay grade to even understand how people with that much money go about selling minority shares in the team to, like, influence maybe a hostile takeover.
I don't know if that's possible or not. I do own a minority share in the breakers and the water dogs.
We never signed paperwork. But we never signed the paperwork.
Do you think that the CEO of FedEx signed paperwork when he took over? No, we own so much stuff that we never signed paperwork for. But that's actually good.
So if we ever have to, we can just be like, yeah, we never signed paperwork. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So we're not culpable for anything that happens under our watch, which is always a good place to be. But yeah, it was a bad report.
There's nothing positive that you can take out of this. It's not really a to a lot of people that have been around washington and like i've i grew up a fan of the team and it's sad it's so sad what's happened that's why i don't talk about them being my favorite franchise that much or i don't like i don't root for them like i root for my other favorite teams because this type of stuff is the rule not the exception it happens the time.
And you know that's a poisonous culture.

And it's difficult to love a team that you grew up loving for the long term when this

stuff happens all the time and there's very little to be happy about.

In fact, I sat down, you know, you've seen like the A to Z guide of why Redskins fans

should hate Dan Snyder that Dave McKenna wrote a while ago in the Washington City paper.

You saw, you've seen like all the reasons why Dan Snyder is not a good person and why Redskins fans should not like him. But I actually think that sitting down and listing the 10 best things that have happened to the team since he's been the owner is actually worse, to read it out loud.
And it puts it in perspective. You're like, holy shit, this is as good as it gets for Sk for skins fans yep so i i made a top 10 list you want me to start at 10 or at one wherever you want start at five start start five okay number five go five six seven eight nine ten one two three four and these are all dead serious when i say like these are my favorite memories these are the things that i look back at fondly as a Redskins fan.
These are actually them. Number five, I have looking at our coaching staff from 2012 and being like, man, we had Kyle Shanahan and we had Sean McVay and we had Matt LaFleur.
That was pretty cool. That's good that we had good assistant.
Well, you haven't heard my top three yet because they get pretty good after that. Number six, we went five and three in the second half of the season with Marty Schottenheimer.
And then we fired Marty right afterwards. But still, we went five and three.
That's huge. After starting out 0-5 that year.
That's pretty big, right? That's huge. That's very memorable.
Number seven, we did go nine and seven with Kirk Cousins. And then on top of that, we didn't pay Kirk Cousins $90 million.
Smart move. So that's a feather in our cap right there.
Number eight, we had two really good left tackles that played really well for a long time. Chris Samuels and Trent Williams.
Two guys that were awesome stalwarts to watch on the left side. And then they both quit in their prime because they would rather quit than play for the team.
That seems negative. But there's some but there's something cool about watching it positive but every game you're watching those guys you're like yeah these guys are awesome i love having these guys keep positive uh number nine sean taylor yes his presence sean taylor was awesome for like two and a half years when he was here uh number 10 uh colt mccoy was the backup one time and he came in during a monday night football game and beat Dallas.
That's 10? That was 10. That feels like a good 10.

A regular season game where we beat

Dallas. Yep.
Then you want me to

go number one? One. No, go

four. Okay, four.
Then I'll count down to

number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Number four. Now the suspense gets

in there. This is where it gets really good.

We won five games in a row in

2005 and Clinton Portis was dressing up

as characters during all his interviews. Yep, I remember that.

The big glasses. And I'm, and by the

way, the stuff that I'm listening here,

this goes back to like 97. So this is

Thank you. 2005 and Clinton Portis was dressing up as characters during all his interviews.
Yep, I remember that. The big glasses.
And by the way, the stuff that I'm listening here, this goes back to like 97. So this is 23 years.
These are the best things that happened to us. Number four was we won five games in a row.
Number three, just when Gibbs came back. Yep.
Everyone's like, oh, this could work. Yeah.
It didn't. It was an offseason where we were like, holy shitbs is back that's awesome yep uh number two was four months of robert griffin in 2012 yeah i was gonna say it has to be one or two yeah four months and then that cut short because the field was sandpaper it was actually just kitty litter that we spray painted green and tore his knee up because dan snyder told mike shanahan hey please play robert play Robert Griffin.
And then the number one best part of the Snyder era was we won a playoff game. We beat Chris Sims on the road in a playoff game, and we scored one offensive touchdown.
And Chris Sims is mean to Blake Bortles. And Chris Sims, I don't think he had a spleen at the time.
So he beat a spleenless quarterback by seven points and scored a touchdown on offense. Wins a win.
And that was the best part of being a Redskins fan for the last 23 years. That's pretty good.
That's a pretty good top ten list. It makes being a Bears fan seem pretty sweet.
It's not competition. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. It's been miserable.
It's awful. So I don't know what happens from here.
I don't think that, like we said, I don't think Snyder gets, has to force, is forced to sell the team. By the way, just as a total aside, as an extra, like, cherry on the shit sandwich that is Daniel Snyder's Washington Redskins, doing the name change on Monday, knowing that this report's coming out.
What a fucking asshole. Like what an asshole.
And then he kept letting like small little details trickle out during the week so that the report would have to go back and be edited and then fact checked again so that it kept pushing it back like day by day by day. And now, but he did hire a lawyer to take a look at things.
Okay. That will usually straighten things out if you hire a single lawyer to examine your organization the only um positive i'd say uh is that darren revell is a fucking idiot again yes so darren revell took his take he read a story detailing uh rampant sexual harassment in an organization 15 women coming forward uh bravely coming forward and his takeaway was sorry to disappoint redskin fans even in the cancel culture that story while horrific isn't going to take down daniel slider that was his number one takeaway number one which is of course of course revelle like just figured out like to tweet about cancel culture you've got to look after the brand now cancel culture is officially canceled because revel knows about it it's over that's that's exactly right when he gets on board something when it's either him or chris saliza once they get on the bandwagon of something it's officially done you can't talk about it anymore see ya so um the other thing that we had going on uh which seems like forever ago because there's been a lot of news today is uh twitter getting hacked and restoring itself to like 2010 twitter when it was awesome and there were no blue check marks and i gotta say that was awesome to watch i was so happy to see people like no blue check marks myself included like i was that's fun twitter fun twitter was back it was pretty triggered at all that no no couldn't it was actually no it was great were you pft a little because you are like you kind of sold out when you said you were never terrified and then you did i didn't want to they forced it upon me even though well you also replied to the email that i gave it back saying who wants to get no i gave back that check and then i got another one but then the same day as everyone else in the office.
No, Twitter just forced it on me. It just happened to do it.
Also, I never got a blue checkmark because this is going to blow your mind. It's actually a white checkmark that's surrounded by blue.
Oh, wow. Nice privilege.
Mm-hmm. It was great, though, to watch Twitter just, like, implode.
And it was so lame to watch other people retweet the blue the blue check marks retweet their old tweets i hated that this is like you got to make it about the blue check marks find a burner yeah and a burner exactly do it from a burner you had leroy billy was so nervous when i told him to give me the keys to his fucking twitter account he was like what are you gonna do what like the most guilty response possible i was like dude i'm gonna fire off like three fire off, like, three tweets, and you're going to get a couple hundred followers. It was kind of nice, though, just scrolling through Twitter and not reading anything about, like, the New York Times op-ed department or the Harper's letter.
Like, it was cool. Politics were taken out of Twitter.
It was blissful. Yeah.
I'd actually be – I would seppuku myself if it meant that I could just scroll a website and not be angry all the time. We are self-loathing white check marks.
Oh, I hate. I have such a love-hate relationship with Twitter, and it's become very much hate recently.
It is a trash website. Yeah.
All right, so that happened. Hank, you felt awesome, right? You were trying to do the trick ones.
It was a great moment. Not a trick ones.
I was just trying to you know, trying to interact with my friends and you guys were unable to tweet back. We weren't there.
Liam went to my Instagram comments and was like, sorry about Twitter, bro. Just running up the score.
It's all right. It's fine.
What ended up happening with the hack? So they hacked into a bunch of prominent accounts and then said, if you reply to this or send me Bitcoin, I'll send you double the Bitcoin that you send me. So Elon Musk tweeted something like that out.
I think they hacked Joe Biden's too. Bill Gates.
Bill Gates. Which is like, Bill Gates getting hacked is alarming.
Wait, but that's a terrible hack. Did they make any money? I think they did.
Yeah. Oh, really? They probably made a shitload of money.
Like 70 grand or something. Oh, that's pretty good.
But that could have been a fake tweet. That could have been a fake tweet.
Did it come from blue checkbox? I don't know. My eyes on fake are not real or not up to speed this week.
I saw one tweet that was like, look at how much money this person's made. This is disgusting.
Are you officially retracting Will Smith and 50 Cent? Yes. Wow.
That's big of me. You were adamant.
I was. That's what I'm saying.
What changed? What changed? It was just one of those. I had some self-reflection.
I looked myself in the mirror, and I was like, you're not on your game. Was it being in company of Stephen Shea? That and then waking up to like 100 people tweeting me being like, this was the most fake thing of all time.
Yes. That's a great feeling.
That usually is like, you know, if you check your mentions and there's a common theme, it's like, all right, this is probably true. There's nothing better than making a mistake and just seeing a million of those.
I said Russell Westbrook had a triple-double season. Like, dude, it was three.
I was like, okay. I said what I felt.
But then there was the LG thing, too. Yeah.
You woke up to the LG tweets. One where he averaged it.
Well, the LG thing, I mean, LG is, I do not take back my disdain for not being able to figure out.

LG is to blame.

Yes, LG, if you have Hulu. Like, that's insane.

I couldn't believe it.

If you have Hulu and you have Disney Plus as part of your apps and you don't have ESPN Plus,

now you see why I was so befuddled.

LG, you're a fucking fucker.

Yep.

Bitch.

Very disappointing.

All right, let's get to Fyre Fest.

Wait, did the 50 Cent thing, did he make make that did 50 cent create the screenshot yes he definitely did that's so dirty yeah so it is kind of real that's what 50 cent does he does he 50 cent is fast and loose with his instagram account he will post some crazy stuff remember that he was blasting some guy a year or so ago being like, this guy owes me money and just posting about him nonstop.

He does not give a fuck.

Don't get on a bad side of 50.

The best was when everyone was doing the ice bucket challenge and he just turned it into a competition between him and Floyd Mayweather trying to get him to read one page of a Harry

Potter book.

Yeah, that's right.

He's brutal.

All right, before we get to Fyre Fest.

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Maybe I can give you one so that you don't have to worry about which one of yours you have to pick. Yes, please do.
Okay. How about, have you seen what's happening with baseball? With the Nationals-Yankees, opening day is next Thursday.
They might have to just not play the game in D.C. Instead, they have to play it in Florida.
Why? Why go to Florida? Because D.C., I guess because of their restrictions, they don't allow the right place to go. So either Fredericksburg, Virginia, I think, or Florida.
Yeah, that was going to be on my list. That was going to be on yours.
Thank you for taking that one off. Okay, I got one for you.
You got a dog. That was going to be mine.
And you now have to take it to the vet, and you are late to work.

And I haven't been getting a lot of sleep.

But as Big Cat working with you for so long, it's nice to have something to relate to,

like both being fathers now, not getting a lot of sleep.

Yep.

So it's good to be able to be on your level and understand that level of tiredness.

Yeah, and also you're probably extra tired because your dog's had an Instagram account for like three days and already has like 17 posts and 11,000 followers. Wow.
Is it going to break news? Wow. I was thinking about that yesterday.
We'll see. We'll see.
We'll talk to you. We'll see.
We'll see what the veteran dogs committee thing. Norman.
It'd be good to have. Yeah.
Norm. Is it Normie? Norman.
I was telling Big Cat we should call it Yoko On Ono it's breaking this fucking podcast up because you're always late to stuff whoa whoa whoa let it out also it's got a hammer that was also that was also borderline maybe an excuse I kind of just forgot about that meeting and blame the dog as as the meeting you set up yes there's nothing worse than getting a text like I was walking out of my house and like big cat was like are you here and like that's like the worst text to get because i was like uh no i you text me probably means i'm supposed to be we are in this weird zone where i feel like everyone needs to relearn the rules to society and how to like be here for a work day like we we opened up the office and we everyone, they sent out an email and they were like, hey, you don't have to come in if you don't want to. Like absolutely no pressure.
But there's been like eight people here. Yeah.
Like everyone's like, oh, sick. Dude, having a meeting was crazy.
We actually had like a business meeting the other day. Yeah.
It really took a day. It's pretty much weird.
This crew, part of my take is like 70 is like 70 of the office yeah it's weird to have to like get dressed and put on pants to talk business with somebody so i think that's i think you get a pass for that yeah but please don't we call that a billy when you just lie about why you're late don't do that i won't i won't trust me it's been very enlightening uh having to deal with deal with that this summer yeah but the about Grit Week, which is going to be very exciting. More details coming soon.
Grit Week is going to be a little something different this year, obviously. Because we can't go anywhere.
We can't go anywhere, but we'll try to make it work. Yes.
All right, PFT. My Fire Fest of the week is Rice University.
Rice University has announced that they're going to open this fall, but the classes are going to be outdoors in a tent and you have to bring

your own chair.

It's BYOC for rice.

Whoa.

Yeah.

So it's actually going to be like a fire festival.

I'm sure they'll hand out shitty lunches and styrofoam containers.

Blink 182 is not going to be there.

Most likely.

That's completely ruined.

Remember the day when you're, when you're like, Hey, let's do class outside.

It was great.

Now that's ruined.

And it's Houston.

It's Houston.

So in, in September and October, you're going to be like, can we have class inside today, please?

Damn.

Bonus Fyre Fest taxes.

Oh, did you do them?

I'm trying to do them.

It was yesterday.

Right.

Two days ago.

And there's...

You might as well just give up, though.

If you haven't done it now.

Yeah, just give up.

There's really no difference between not paying it now and not paying it ever.

Right. You already fucked up.
Once you're late, you're late. Mm-hmm.
So what are you trying... What are you doing right now? You can't get it now, there's really no difference between not paying it now and not paying it ever.
Right. You're already fucked up.
You're late. So what are you trying? You can't get really pregnant.
Are you actually doing them right now? Okay, well, let's walk through them. I need to get another form that I don't know where to find it.
I don't know who to ask for it. Oh, that's the worst when you're on TurboTax and it makes you go to the IRS's website and download a PDF.
Yeah. Could you just upload like a random piece of paper? I don't know.
It's like almost like Homer Simpson balling up his taxes and throwing it to like, if you upload a PDF, it will let you submit. And then once you submit, they'll be like, oh, you uploaded like upload a blank piece of paper.
I'm like, shit, I'd hit the wrong thing. And then you get an extension.
Just upload like a podcast audio file and be like, oops. Yeah, no, we're just talking about like a blank white piece of paper and be like, fuck, I thought that it must have scanned incorrectly.
And there's no, I don't know who, I literally don't know who to contact to get this. And if the office isn't open, so I can't go upstairs and and ask someone.
Who to contact? Like at the IRS? No, I think

someone here probably has a form I need.

You know what you should do, Hank? Instead of

putting that form on there, you should just attach a JPEG.

And this is pre-recorded. This is from Monday.
Yes, it's from Monday.

You should attach a JPEG

just a picture of wood

and send it into the U.S. government.

Just troll them. Yeah.
Government loves memes,

bud. Yeah, tax this, bitch.
Here's your extension. It's extended down to the U.S.
government. Just troll them.
Government loves memes, bud. Yeah, tax this, bitch.

Here's your extension.

It's extended down to the floor.

Okay, alright, so do that.

Do any of those things. You got this.

Alright, PFD, what's your fire fest?

It was Rice University.

Thoughts and prayers to all the students there that are just going to be sweating their sacks

off outside.

Alright, my fire fest, I have two.

One is

I've already been accused of uh killing the word glizzy and that was quick i feel like i it's just getting started glizzies are hot dogs and i've already been told hey dude it's not cool when you say it so that sucks i've been seeing glizzy a lot though recently i've been seeing glizzy memes glizzy pictures left and right i said why did glizzy become i don't know such a thing but i i tweeted i was like yeah i'm a glizzy gladiator and then coley our co-worker was like dude we were hoping that we could at least get this through summer uh before you figured it out so sorry i kind of killed that and then my other fire fest is um i'm a father of two now so i have my son my actual son and i actually have to uh house break billy football i'm taking it upon myself he's been acting out he's terrible manners i am going to uh if and i want this on the record so pft hank jake liam if billy does something to you, you can absolutely come to me and blame it on me.

I will take onus for it, and we will make this boy a man after what I've seen the last week and a half.

We're going to do this as a team.

Okay, Billy?

Okay.

Do you have anything to say for yourself?

I don't really know what I did wrong. That's the first problem, though.
I will teach you that. I will teach you it.
We definitely need to get those squirt guns. For people who don't know, we order dinner every single night when we work late here, and the food came, and Billy took the bag, started rifling through it, took his food out, started eating his food, and just didn't take anything else out of the bag and was like, oh, that's all the food.
And just, we're going to teach you manners. It's just simple manners.
You're not a bad person. It's just manners.
I'm very open to growth as a person, so I'm very welcoming of this. And you also just are late every day.
And to be fair, Billy did take his shoes off, and he washed them with his other clothes. Okay, so we got steps.
There's that. We can do this.
you're going to be fair billy did take his shoes off and he washed them with his other clothes okay so we got steps there's that we can do this you're gonna be the finest young man i've ever created i'm very excited yes i'm gonna have you i want you to win a suit and tie on sunday seriously yeah yeah jake's got one for you look good feel good feel good podcast good that's a test by the way i have to wear a suit yeah and it's i. Yeah.
And it's I. Billy, did you do the thing I asked you to do two days ago? His taxes? No.
I asked you to do two days ago with the hashtag. Do you have a final figure for me? Uh-uh.
He didn't. No.
No, he didn't. He didn't remember that.
But PFT, here's a- Big Cat, I'd like to report a violation from Billy Football. I have the number done.
PFT, here's a pre-Big Cat fathering Billy excuse. He would say, but dude, I got you a Cherry Coke today.
He did. Well, it was a Cherry Coke Zero.
Yeah. And Billy, to his credit, has learned that he should show up with a Cherry Coke Zero.
He comes in the office with things from Dwayne Reed. And then he's like, Oh, my job here is done.
I'm also pretty sure he just wants to go to Dwayne Reed anyways, just to buy snacks. All right, we got this dude.
We got this first order of business. Do the thing.
PFD asked you two days ago. Okay, I will.
Okay. Thank you.
Your fire fest, my fire fest of the week. I've had a pretty solid week.
After all that, being like, I'm just crushing it at work. Home, work, I'm doing everything great.
That's so perfectly, Billy. No complaints here, guys.
Oh, I got one for you. You lost your whoop charger on the jet ski as well.
No, I have my whoop charger. I found my whoop charger.

I've been hitting my head on the same board over and over again.

It's pretty fun.

Fire Fest of the Week for St. Thomas' College in Minnesota.

They are getting bumped up from D3 to D1,

meaning that all the D3 recruits who are sitting on the bench on a D3 team are now having to play a bunch of D1 schools. But now they're D1 athletes, though.
Right. It's a benefit, but then you're going to be playing D1 athletes and getting dunked on and just absolutely destroyed for the next couple years until you can recruit D1 recruits.
Spin zone, you're going to get on SportsCenter a lot when you actually get dumped on by somebody who's really good. The Sean Bradley effect.
Yeah, well, it's just been a great week for me. Okay, you're crushing it, man.
Doing great belly. That's good.
Here's one thing I don't have to work with you on is your confidence. That's set.
No, it's really kind of wavering. Yeah, no, it's not.
We actually do need to use dog whisperer techniques on them. So what Cesar Millan always says is when you enter a room with your dog, you don't make eye contact with it.
You make eye contact and you greet everybody else. All the humans in the room get their hellos.
And then and only then do you go over to your dog and you scratch it behind the ear. You say, hey, what's up? He also says three things that a happy dog needs, that a happy Billy needs.
Piss on your dog? In this order, okay? There's exercise, which Billy's been doing, I think. think we don't know he looks kind of fat but i i think he's oh he looks really fat dropped weight recently uh intermittent fasting fat is the reason why i'm going through the food so quickly because it's my first meal of the day okay so i'm sorry if i don't so you should be gaining weight well i have a lot of muscle number one is exercise.
I 100% squat and bench more than anybody in this room. And because of that, I think that makes me the alpha.
So disagree. Number two is discipline.
We need to work on this. Yes.
You know what? We need to look ourselves in the mirror. Yes.
And maybe, you know, we should do, you know, they put Cesar Milan puts those vests on dogs to make them think that they always have a job and they're always working we should get billy a dog vest yeah and just make him have like water bottles in it all the time yeah so he can carry it out cokes underneath is like a saint bernard underneath his chin yeah just yeah just a barrel of a milkshake that you're bringing around to us and then number three is affection and then only only after he completes step one and two do we give him that a boy. Then PFT will kiss you on the lips.
No. What if I score 79? 75.
Alright, Billy, we got this, man. I'm having an amazing time.
We love you, Billy. We do really love you.
If we didn't love you, we wouldn't invest our time in you. I'm serious about getting a squirt gun, though, for when you act out.
Also, everyone online, be nice to Billy. Let's go positive reinforcement for a week.
Let's try a week of positive reinforcement for Billy. Everyone tweet something nice to Billy.
Yeah, it's getting very tough online. Yeah, I know.
It is. I know it is.
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It works on any device, anywhere, anytime. All you need is self-service or Wi-Fi.
And myself, Kimball Walker, Trey Young, Victor Oladipo, NBA All-Stars, Brianna Stewart, the WNBA MVP, Brittany Griner, We become your personal trainer for an hour and a half. And an hour and a half a day.
But what differentiates it, guys, is it's live. So you can ask questions.
You can upload your video. And all you have to do is go to JetAcademyCamp.com.
Kind of explains everything. You come in, log in.
And we can even make you guys players. Okay.
We can make you guys players. Jetacademycamp.com.
Do you have anything in place, though? Like if I were to sign up, I'm going to skip a couple of the drills when I run out of gas and then hop back in at the end. Do you have anything for guys like me who you know are going to cheat? Those guys I've seen through my whole career.
They cheat themselves. There's guys who cheated on sprints their whole life.
So you just join the club, brother. You just join the club.
Just come on in. JetAcademyCamp.com.
I was the king of getting real close to the line when we were running suicides at the end of camp and I would get super close but I wouldn't ever reach down all the way, touch the line. And then my favorite part of any summer basketball camp was the last day when they handed out awards and the camp counselors were trying to figure out, okay, what do we give the award for the kid that is not very good? And they had to like invent an award for me every year that I think they gave me like best at taking charges.
Are you giving out like paper plate awards at the end of it? I do have you know everyone who you know participates there is things that we give out we do not give paper plate awards okay so the awards will be real uh i think overall again it's just a pull back behind a curtain of what these guys are what we've done. I always thought for me, the summertime,

if I didn't work out individually,

I wouldn't have made it to the NBA.

It wasn't the games.

It was the individual work that I put in because I knew what I needed to work on.

So now you get to do side-by-side with Trey Young,

Kimba Walker, Victor Oladipo, Brianna, Stuart.

You get to go side-by-side with them

and do the things that they felt got them there. That's the difference.
Again, JetAcademyCamp.com. So for people who obviously are listening, not watching this, Kenny's got an awesome flex going.
He's got his grand piano behind him framed perfectly with his Emmys on either side of his ear. That just happens to be there, right? Like you didn't plan that.
I didn't even know because typically they're at the dinner table and if I get something for two, just kind of use it as a toothpick. So I did not know that that was there.
Yeah, so let's talk about Inside the NBA because everyone loves the show. It is a cult classic.
It's a ratings classic to people. People love watching it.
And I, I, I love shows like this because you know that a network execs are sitting around the country trying to replicate it. And I've always thought the reason why it works is the chemistry that you guys have.
And you guys are truly friends. Maybe not Shaq all the time, but uh you guys are truly friends what is the secret sauce to you if you had to define exactly why it works secret sauce as I have people running behind me um I think the um is the authentic being authentic like there is no like you say this you argue this point you take the right he takes left.
It's how you feel and being authentic to what it is. So if we all think right, we're all going to think right that day.
If we all think differently, we're going to think differently that day. I think a lot of shows that I've been on, or at least tried to have me on at times, you know, they would say, well, can you take this point? I'm like, but I don't believe that.
Yeah, but we just need a contrast. No, well, I'm not the guy.
Find a guy who really believes in that. I think those are the kind of things that people read into.
They understand. We're not just arguing to argue or we're not just agreeing to disagree.
We love the game. We love the players inside the game.
Iically love them um in terms of fans and fandom but we also quick and cheek them we all could also could say you know you're not doing this right or you're doing it wrong so when you say just now uh you say things that you believe they're authentic so that means that what you said I think it was last week, that LeBron might be in your top 10 all time.

You authentically believe that.

Yeah, I think for me, my top five players of all time.

We're talking about threads of greatness.

Like, let's separate this.

We're talking about threads of greatness.

But, you know, I'm old enough to actually have seen these guys when they were in their superpowers. So I've seen Michael Jordan in his superpowers.
I've seen Kareem Abdul-Jabbar when he was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the superpower. I've seen him when he was Luau Senda.
I've seen, you know, the greats be great. So when I'm comparing it, I'm like, well, it looks very similar to what he's doing.
Or it even looked better at times. So I'm not going on a reference of highlights.
So is he on a trajectory to jump into the top five of all time? For sure. But with three championships and he's still on that trajectory, he's not there yet, in my opinion, just in my opinion.
Will he be there? Yeah, I think he will but is he there now i would have bill russell michael jordan wilt chamberlain you know ahead of him i would just just personally me so how long after you said that take did it take for worldwide west or one of lebron's people to show up at your doorstop and just knock and just stand there and just start like pounding their fists, being like, hey, Kenny, you know we got to straighten this out. It wasn't even him.
It was my 12-year-old son. Biggest LeBron fan ever.
So we actually, I did an Instagram live with him on Sunday. Like it's father versus son.
He was telling me why I was wrong. And we have pictures of LeBron.
He's like one of the few players that we have in the house. Like, he had pictures.
And I actually have a great deal of affinity towards LeBron. I have some backstory that, you know, about his mom and how she's taking care of my mom at times and said things, you know.
But I'm going to be honest in my opinion. I think Kare abdul jabbar right now i would put over him and there's nothing but like i said it's threads of greatness but the bron james trajectory has him there but i had to deal with in my own household first yeah yeah have you ever put out a take on inside the nba where you say it you believe it and then you hear from the player that you're talking about and they object to whatever it is you're saying and you end up changing your mind? Not in terms of something like, this is barbershop talk, but we're talking like, you know, who's the greatest and what this team be.
But in terms of like content where it's like, no, I actually said this about you in the game, and I was right or wrong, never I have changed it. Because I never say, like, you don't play with enough heart.
You don't play with enough passion. I go, you didn't get back on defense.
I run to the big board, and I go, here it is. So I'm really backing most of my points up with film I very rarely jump into the barbershop talk like who's the greatest of all time you know that kind of stuff very rarely we do that because we're on once a week so we're covering the game itself if we were on every day that's when you kind of I'm like now it's a pandemic I'm going on a lot of shows I.
I'm having a lot of fun. And we start, I get into the barbershop talk.
And so, which is a little bit different. Yeah.
When you're getting after Shaq, can you tell his breaking point? Because I feel like he's had it a few times where he's been legitimately angry at you guys. Do you know, like, right at the limit to where it'd be like, all right, let's back up? Or does it sometimes afterwards like he's still pissed? No, I know the limit.
I know the limit. And I always push him to that limit.
I want him to try. I'm going to get him to the edge.
I'm going to get him where he takes off his jackets and ready to jump over the cliff. And as soon as he goes like this, I pull him back.
Like I want him to always get to that moment, especially with Chuck. I want him to get there.
I want to throw kerosene on it just where it becomes well done and not burnt. Yeah.
Yeah. I like that.
You're really good at it, at kind of being a pot stirrer on that show. And you just said it right there.
You try to get Charles and Shaq going at each other more than you try to immediately get Shaq upset at you. What's one thing that you can say to Shaq that you know will get under his skin immediately? I have to just agree with Chuck.
But if I really believe and I agree with Chuck, he gets mad at me. And I'm like, but I really do believe this.
Right. So anytime Chuck and I are on the same wavelength of thought,

that bothers Chuck without question.

What about something that will always get under Chuck's skin?

Do you have that button?

I mean, I feel like he doesn't really care when people bring up the rings argument,

but can you bother him with that, or is it something that he's like?

I think what gets Chuck probably most is social issues so like it's not really basketball issues that bother him but if you disagree with him you you know i think that could get under his skin however um i i love the fact that he allows our show to talk more than sport. Yeah.
Before him, you know, we were a very in-depth basketball show. Now we became a very in-depth TV show.
We went from being the greatest basketball show to one of the greatest TV shows. Two different things.
And it's a testament to all your guys' character,

but I also think you see it a lot right now

where people are trying to figure out

how can you talk politics, social issues,

while also talking about sports.

You guys do it authentically,

where it's not, it never feels like we're being preached to.

It feels like it's a discussion.

I think that's the important distinction

that you guys are able to navigate, and a lot of people aren people aren't like a lot of shows are not able to do that well you have to you have to talk in the culture like how it affects the culture of what you're doing sometimes or your life if you're talking about it from a third person party it doesn't resonate like we're going to talk about social issues, how it's affecting me, how it's affecting you. And so the viewpoint becomes real.
But if you just say how it's affecting others and never bring in your point of view of how it affects you, then it's fake. One thing I've noticed about the show is it seems like you go into each program with kind of an idea of what you're going to talk about.

But it also seems like you're very willing to kind of throw away what the plan was if you guys get carried away or start getting hot about a particular topic.

How far in advance do you plan out the show and how much of the plan, the production going into every single program that you take,

do you think you actually end up hitting versus how much is just like what's getting you going in the moment we're going to continue down this path uh i have not been to a production meeting in 20 years i love it yeah i've read that where you you basically got out of the second one you ever went to and that was a genius move by you yeah i just like because there's nothing going to happen on a basketball court i haven't seen done heard i've been part of so it's really about analyzing what's happening like i'm really and he trusts there's a tim colley our producer he trusts that i'm gonna pay attention well if i'm not letting you out of this are you really i'm paying attention to things that you would never see you know and then like you said if we don't always stay on course because we would go because i if i was sitting there i would be like okay why are you wearing sunglasses and he's not is it brighter for him and it's not for you and we would talk about your sunglasses and why are you wearing sunglasses and he's not is it brighter in there for you or not i've got an eye issue plus my eyes are so beautiful that it would distract from anybody that's watching this right now they just be focused and just trying to be like how can i get with dude over there? Instead of paying attention to the astute basketball points that you're making. I'm not saying what you just said is not true, but now I know why.
Yep. So are you going into the bubble? As of now, there's nothing concrete.
Okay. But there is a plan for us to possibly want us to go.
I'm not sure if it would help. I would probably like to experience it to see it, but that's my mind saying that.
But my body is like, why do I want to do that? Right. So how do you, you know, playing in the NBA and knowing these guys are now going to be isolated somewhat from their families, from the outside world, how do you think that's going to affect a team that has to be there for like two, three months? Do you think it's going to be, you know, they're going to come together more or do you think there's going to be that lack of release where guys are able to go out and be apart from the team and let loose and now they don't have that? I don't know if there's any correct answer.
You know, I have no idea. For me, you know, I've been on like select teams that's been overseas for the whole summer away from your family.
That kind of has that kind of feel. And you're just running around with 12 to 15 guys all summer.
So I think it has that feeling to it. When you're in it, you know, the days aren't as long as you might think because you're practicing and the exhaustion of practicing.
You know, like, you need your sleep. Like, you're going hard.
And a lot of times those teams now are going twice a day. Guys are coming back, doing their own individual work.

So that first month kind of breezes by.

It's actually when there's less teams there.

Right.

Because then there's going to be space in between games,

where it's not everyone's playing.

Because when people are playing now, everyone's going to be,

oh, let me watch this game.

Let me see who's playing. Let me go over here.
But then when it's like, no, it's only six teams left, four teams left. That's when I – that's this mental strain, I think, more than anything.
Who do you think it's going to favor more? A team that's got more of a veteran presence on it where they might not feel that itch to have to go out and party all the time or, you know, just go, you know, entertain themselves at night or a younger team that has more energy naturally. And they're, you know, able to bounce back and recover from games quicker.
Well, the party all the time is what keeps you motivated. I hope that team's going to lose no matter what.
But I think the younger teams have an advantage because the lack of experience of playing on the road is no longer a factor. Everybody's in the same boat.
There's no fans. There's no anxiety of that.
So you just kind of go at it. So for me, I think the lack of anxiety to actually play on the road is big.
I would assume, though, you also played with guys who they didn't really wake up until they were in front of a crowd. Do you think that's going to be weird for them where the...
Not the great ones. I never played...
None of the great players I played with didn't play great at other times. So marginal guys, yes, but not great players.
What about shooting? Do you think that it's going to be tougher to shoot when there's not a crowd behind the basket or is it going to be easier? Oh, no, no. I don't think that differentiates it for me.
We're asking you gambling questions, Kenny. Should I take the over, should I bet overs or unders? These are just us dancing around gambling questions.
Tell us who's going to win and who's going to come. I would say that the lack of anxiety is going to allow players that you probably didn't think were great players go out this guy's not bad now I see what he's in the league at that level for because he's going to give extra minutes because he's not going to have that away crowd or that travel or that all of the responsibilities other than basketball they're going to play better.
So if you want your things, some guys are going to average more than 10 points that typically don't. Ooh.
So you think Ben Simmons is going to finally hit a three? Oh, without question. He'll shoot threes in this environment.
He'll shoot C because the anxiety won't be there. I guarantee in his first game, he'll hit a three.
His first game. First.

I actually like that.

I actually agree with you because I think that a lot of his not taking threes

has been mental and the crowd's reaction.

And everybody, oh, let it go.

Let it go.

I like that a lot.

Yeah.

I'm going to absolutely hammer that prop.

What player in the NBA right now do you think,

like is there somebody that you've got your eye on? Like when this guy retires, he would fit in really well with our group on TNT. Man, you know, God bless him.
You know, Kobe Bryant was one. I was hoping and praying that he would, you know, come to.
I was like, that would be the ultimate five. Like, if we had the ability to have Kobe on one end and Shaq on the other,

you know, and just being able to combat the stories

that Shaq always lies about, you know, about the championship runs.

And then I just think that would have been the ultimate.

Man, that would have been the ultimate partner,

and it would have been a five-man desk,

and we would have been like the Jackson five. He would have elevated us.
I would have been the ultimate partner, and it would have been a five-man desk, and we would have been like the Jackson 5.

He would have elevated us.

I would have got famous going through hotels.

People would have been stopping me every second

because I'm part of the Jackson 5, and I wouldn't have been Tito.

Yeah, yeah.

We had Horace Grant on the show a couple months ago,

and we asked him about the famous Nick Anderson game. You obviously were on the the Rockets then he said that if Nick Anderson hits one of those free throws that's a different series and the Magic probably win it uh win the championship what from your perspective watching that happen won it all yeah he said that that that killed their confidence and you know they're a young team and they had the game won and that happens and it's's like, oh, man, what like this stage might be too big for us when you're watching that on the court.
Are like, is there a small part of you that's like, man, this is brutal for this guy. He can't fucking hit a free throw.
No, I wasn't. I wasn't nervous for him.
I was happy because I got to shoot the three to tie it up and send it in overtime. Yeah.
So which kind of broke an NBA record on that for me. So, no, I was not – and you're a competitor.
You're not feeling sad for the other person, to be honest. But I'm interested they said that because I don't think they would have won the championship.
Maybe it would have been closer if they felt that way, but obviously it would have won a game because they didn't win any.

Right.

So they would have won one.

But the reason I say that is because as the Rockets,

we played Phoenix that year.

And we lost, I think, the year before.

We lost two games, and we were up 20 both games.

And they came back and beat us. And we were down down 3-1 but that's what makes you the champion is that you could take the adversity and go no we're not gonna lose our confidence over this because we really had them and we're gonna beat them because that's how we would have thought we'd have been like when the hell is Kenny Smith gonna miss four free throws or Nick Anderson gonna miss four free throws again in a game? Like, that's how we would have been saying.
Like, that's never going to happen. We were up 20.
He missed four free throws? When's that going to happen? We're going to smack these guys. And that's the momentum that we would have had differently.
So, I don't think that they had the mindset of a champion. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
That's a good point. I just know what we would have been saying in the locker room if that happened.
We would have been encouraged by that, not discouraged, honestly. And it's always weird watching younger teams having that, like, fragile nature where when things start to go wrong, if they haven't really experienced it at that level, like you're saying, they can't really rebound from it.
They can't be like, all right, let's figure this out. That's a problem.
That surprised me because, yeah, I would have, yeah, I wouldn't think, I wouldn't have thought that they would have felt that way. I would have, you know, I definitely wouldn't have.
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All right, back to part of my take. And now back to Kenny the Jet Smith.
You also had the take that you think that even if Jordan had been on the Bulls, your Rockets team would have been able to handle your business and take care of the Bulls in the finals for those two years. You still you stand by that take still? I think Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen in my life.
But I don't think he had the greatest teams those two years. And the reason was the guy that you were talking to, Horace Grant, was in Orlando.
And then Dennis Rodman at the time was in San Antonio. So they didn't have the two pieces that helped them win the first three or the second three and they weren't there yet and I think you know I think the reason they lost to Orlando even when Michael came back and was wearing number 45 and switch 23 was not because he wasn't good enough I just think his team wasn't good enough because Horace was in Orlando.
So they were small, Shaq killing him inside. Horace offensive rebound, Petty posting up.
They lost 4-2. We swept that team.
Like, so they just weren't good enough as a team. Michael was still the best player, but, you know, he's got 55 that year.
I think he had as close to 30 in the playoffs that year. So, but if they were bigger, man, if they had Rodman, I'd have been like, I don't know.
Yeah, the two rings, I'd have been like, oh, they're in the Mando case, but I don't know if they'd be. No, but without Horace Grant and without Rodman, no, I don't think they would have done it.
Are you concerned that by saying that Jordan's going to take that personally and he's going to, like, invent a time machine just to go back in time to kick your ass in those playoffs? I took it personally that they didn't put us more in the documentary. Yeah.
Yeah. You played with MJ, obviously, at North Carolina when you were a freshman.
At that moment, did you know, like, this guy's just different than everyone else? No, you didn't know. You saw the growth, though.
Like, Michael's the only player I ever met that when I met him as a basketball player, the things that he was – his weaknesses, by the time three years later we were talking, those were his strengths. Like, I've never seen anything like that.
Like, oh, you know, he's not really a great jump shooter. His ball handling is okay.
No, those are the best two things he does. Yeah.
Like, wait a minute. Like, it went from not being the best to being that.
To me, I've never seen a a LeBron is great you know

I don't know if his weaknesses that he came into

league is that Kobe

you know

he's done he's done that at

times as well yeah

consistent basis

you know magic

you know magic wasn't a great

three point he became a better three point shooter

but it wasn't like he became the best

three point shooter in the league

Michael became the best at it

Thank you. you know magic wasn't a great three point he became a better three point shooter but it wasn't like he became the best three point shooter in the league like michael became the best at it like that to me separated him than anything else yeah the adding on every summer of being like hey i'm gonna add this to my game no no it's different from adding yeah we're talking about it's your strength yeah like kareem you know he had the hook.
And then all of a sudden you go, no, no, no. When he left the league, he shot threes better than anyone.
Yeah. Like, what? Like, wait a minute.
Like, what? Why do you think that Hakeem Olajuwon is, like, maybe one of the most underrated guys of all time? It feels like he doesn't get discussed in the same way when you're talking about all-time greats, but he was an all-time great. He did, you know, without question, top 10, 11 at best, you know, player ever to play the game.
But, you know, the social media, you know, the... He didn't have a Nike deal, he had a Tonic deal.
You know what I mean? the shoe doesn't exist anymore you know like he just revelation it just never like socially people didn't he didn't embrace that right you know in that era so I think that's more to do with it than anything else but as long as he has me on television I'm gonna pipe his praises all the time yeah you're the perfect hype man um so there's a lot of talk about you joining a front office i think you even admitted that eventually you will it's not a matter of uh if it's a matter of when you also said i was reading an article that you said uh every team in the league has told me something they've told no one else so you want to prove it you want to just go down the list like what have the calves told you that you they've told no one else what year you say it give us a tea it's like for me it's kind of like i always get the call and saying that also i get because i the difference is I talk to runners, agents, players, general managers, and owners. There's no one over the course of time that has that wealth of information that consistently needs to use it.
So for me, you know, I knew Bennett was going to be number one pick. Did you try to talk him out of it? No, it's not my job because that wasn't a question.
Like, I only answer the question that people ask me. I don't work for you.
So if you go, do you think it's a good pick? I'm not going to go yes or no. Then I'll say yes or no.
But if you say, do you know about him? What is his strengths and weaknesses? Because we're thinking about taking him number one. I'm going to tell you his strengths and weaknesses.
You've got to be really specific to get the information if you want it out of me that I know. I'm not going to just say things I hear that you should know also.
Okay, so specific question. What's one thing that you were told before everyone else that turned out to be true that you didn't get like maybe credit for breaking the news, but we'll let you will allow you in this moment to be like, oh, I knew that before Woj.
I knew that before Shams. I knew that before everyone.
Well, I say I'm not really a breaker of news. Right.
So I don't have like that. I don't get like this trade is about to happen.
I get this is what happened in practice. What should we do with this player from a player's point of view? How should we discipline this guy? What would you want as a player? How would that make you feel? Or players call me and go, well, this has happened to me with ownership.
How should I react to him this way so I don't look this way? Or this, I need to get this message out. So I don't want it to look like I'm, you know, doing this on a team.
And this is not really. So I get more of that than like the secret sauce of who got traded.
Okay. I get the information you makes that would make you a better player team or organization that's what i that's the information that i usually get asked about or i have the information that you need to do that okay let's drill it down even further then so we're good friends with blake griffin uh that the lob city clippers why was the demise of the lob city clippers all chris paul's fault i don't know if it was all chris paul boy i i don't i don't know that that's accurate kenny's scratching his chin he's looking up yeah i don't know if that's accurate i would get like if that happened let's say in that time i would get a call like i'm having an issue dealing with let's say let's say if it's chris or this didn't happen i'm just saying how it hypothetically would happen i would get a call from chris and he would say well you know i'm dealing with my big and blake and this is the problem i'm having every time i give him this information he's taking it way.
What's a better way to do it? So you see what I'm saying?

Now I already know that there might be some information about, oh, there's some friction,

but I'm helping you solve it. I'm not getting a call like,

yo, Chris Paul's a jerk. Hey, see you later.

Say it on TV. I'm not getting that call.
Okay. So how, all right.
So let's go to something real.

That was more of an inside joke because we always just try to have Blake Griffin's back.

The Kyrie LeBron fallout.

Well, I'll give you some information about Blake.

Okay.

I was the one who told him to jump over the car.

Oh.

I was his, I was his, they gave me his, as a dump consultant.

So I was his dump consultant.

And I, and I, the original dump, he was going to dump over a Bentley and throw it up in the air, throw an alley-oop, and dunk over a Bentley. But because the NBA had a deal with Kia, they made him use a Kia.
That's right. Yeah, that's good.
That's how it happened. Okay, that's the inside of that.
And I think Blake said that he wanted to jump over a convertible initially. Well, it was a convertible Bentley.
Yeah, a convertible Bentley. I think he said that on our show, and then he got talked out of it.
Because Kenny Smith came in with the idea. Nice.
And I said, I'm going to bring it. And I said, I want to have a choir singing.
I can believe I can fly. I'll be like the preacher.
And I did the whole hype man thing. And he came out, I can believe I can fly I'll be like the preacher and I did the whole hype man thing and he came out I could believe I could fly yes we had the choir and he jumped over a great moment so all right so so background stuff that Kenny Smith knows uh Kyrie going from Cleveland to Boston and Boston to the uh Nets what has been going on like what what have you been hearing about a guy like Kyrie? And did you see some of this stuff happening? That's, again, that's woe stuff.
That's Stephen A. Oh, not really.
Because he had issues, right? No, that's Stephen A. But you're still thinking of it as a negative call.
Got it. Like, it's also a positive thought process that calls.
It's like, I'm in this moment. How do I get better? You know, it's not always, this guy sucks.
How do I get rid of him? How do I trade him? What would you do? It's more like, man, we just drafted. We just traded for Kyrie.
Right. How, like, as a point guard, what can I put in place to make him flourish? Like I would get that call.
So what about? Yeah, I see what you're saying. What about I mean? So it's more how do I make my organization better? Not always.
How do I tear down the guy next? Would you ever make a call without them reaching out to you? Like, would you ever call James Harden and be like, hey, maybe don't get sick with the flu before this playoff game next year um I very rarely offer advice to players management I would call I would call a general manager an owner a protein president you know different relationship because I know how I feel as a player a player should always first, first line of defense, always be his coaching staff. So when you bring that into it as a fandom, a person who's around him or knows him, then you're polluting the environment.
And that's not a good, that's not a place that I think I should should be I should never be the one that could pollute the environment based on you know I do have tenure I do have relationship so I never call a player first ever like I never look at the game and go yo what the hell are you doing no no I was like I wait that call rings now in the summertime hey boom boom boom hey financial guys whatever it might be does this guy is he is he accurate oh for sure i'll. Now in the summertime, hey, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Hey, financial guys, whatever it might be, does this guy, is he accurate? Oh, for sure. I'll lead you in the right direction, but I'm never in the middle of it going to pollute your team because I don't know how you even got to that place sometime through your practices.
Like, have you been in practice doing the right things? Have you, have they, the interactions? Sometimes I don't know how you got there. Right.
So I don't like to include that in mind. Okay, I have one last question.
It's actually my most important question. I'm very curious, what is the buffet scene like behind this – you know, before inside the NBA or when you guys are watching games? What's that like? What are we eating? What are Shaq – are Shaq and Charles just going to town? I'd imagine it's pretty good, right? It's like what's behind you.
It's the weights. It's heavy, brother.
It's heavy. That buffet is pretty heavy.
It's a smorgasbord of different ethnic foods. You know, sometimes you go, okay, it's italian night it's never just italian it's never just asian night it's it's everything it's soul food it's asian it's italian it's everything it's it's a collection it's never just it's never it's taco tuesday no do you ever do you ever like are you ever sitting there in awe or can you tell when shackq or Charles are in the zone? It's like, damn, they're putting it on tonight.
Like, they're going for it. I have to be careful not to put on my 15-pound curve with them because it's so much around, and you just walk by, and you see a cupcake, and you walk by, you see, you know, see some pasta, a slice of pizza, and you just grab it because you're just – it's nervous eating.
I have to be careful about the nervous eating around those guys. Is there a hierarchy in terms of who gets to hit certain parts of the buffet first? Do people have to wait their turn? Oh, no.
See, the difference is it's not a buffet. We have comp blunts to order at any restaurant.
Oh, I like that. So it is, it's comp lines.
Who's the captain though? Who's the, who's the guy who's calling the shots on where you're ordering from? I have the longest tenure. So I'm always first.
Okay. But you can order from anywhere.
Yeah. Chuck's just adding on.
I love adding on there. You know, the runner is just hoping that they want to eat at the same place I do.
So he doesn't have to go to eight places. But he's typically going to five restaurants in a night.
Oh, that's perfect. That's like – I mean, we have a mini version.
One notch was invented and Postmates were invented because of us. Yes, yes.
We do something similar where we just sit here and we just like – half our night is deciding where we're going to order from, but we only usually do one or two restaurants, not five. We got to up our game.
This has been awesome, Kenny. Oh, one last, last question.
Is Jimmy Butler a top 15 player? In the NBA now? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know if he met all the time or something.
Oh. I mean, without having a list in front of me, he's definitely top five in his position.
Okay. Without questions.
So probably around 25. Yeah, he's definitely top five in his position.
Without having a list in front of me. Well, he might be four in his position.
That's true. He might be three in his position.
It's not 10 guys better than Jimmy Butler at the two-guard position. Without question.
Okay. That's a long-standing beef we have on the show.
It sounds like you're saying he's anywhere between 6 and 25 at his position. So the average of that would be… In the NBA.
Who would have got two guards since Dwayne Wade retired? Who would have got two guards in the league? That's kind of where you have to kind of start. Okay.
Sounds like you're saying 16, which I agree with. It's kind of out of, like, no one really cares anymore.
Wing player, he's definitely in there. He would be a guy that I'm going to sort after and go get.
I'm also going to... If I was running a team, he would be a guy I'd go get.
Which you will be someday. Kenny, this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it, man. Everyone check out Jet Academy.
Go ahead. Let me get a lock before we let you go so we can make some headlines.
Give me your guarantee who's winning the title this year. I will say that, you know, before it started, I would have Lakers, Clippers, whoever wins, and Milwaukee.
I will say one of those – there's another team that will be in the NBA finals besides those three. Ooh.
Okay. I don't know who it is because I got to see – some guys might have guts.
Guys got beards. I have no – I might not even recognize certain guys.
So they're going to have different last names on their jerseys. I got to figure out who's there.

But it will not be

the people that were leading the way

when things stop.

Okay, so we're just going to take liberty

with that and say that you're predicting the Nets

to win the NBA title. Nets, Pelicans.

I would say, don't be

surprised if you see Denver, Dallas,

or Boston in the finals. Okay.
I just made Hank's day. That's a good headline.
There we go. We appreciate it.
Don't be surprised. Yeah.
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And, Kenny, this has been awesome. We really appreciate it, man.
Thank you, man. Netacademycamp.com.

Come on, baby.

I got you. I'll take care.
All right. Thanks, man.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Have a good one, man. We're going to get right back to the show.
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Okay, let's finish up with some segments. First up, we have football guy of the week, Coach O, who said, we need football.
Football is the lifeblood of our country. Now, he said this because it seems like with every passing day, college football is in more of a precarious situation to actually go off on time.
If I had to bet right now, I actually don't know. I don't even fucking know.
I'm just bummed. I still think NFL is going to happen.
I don't know if college football is going to happen. I saw something from J.J.
Watt earlier today that actually made me a little nervous. He listed all the things that need to happen in order for them to get to training camp.
I think training camp starts in like a week and a half or something like that. And they still don't have any.
They don't have testing. They don't have basically anything that you need to get back.
It might not open on time, but I still think we're going to get NFL. I'm not very confident in college football after reading the statements from Sankey of the SEC and from Emmert from the NCAA.
It's so bad that Rick Pitino is the only one who's making sense. Rick Pitino keeps saying we need to push the college basketball season to January 1st so that we can somehow preserve March Madness.
Rick Pitino. Push it now.
Big delay guy. Rick Pitino is the guy who is speaking the most sense.
Don't, like, unfortunately, it feels like everyone in charge is using our brains for this. Where they're, like, saying to themselves, let's just wait a couple weeks and maybe this will go away.
Maybe it'll just stop. Yeah.
They are literally using our logic and we are dumb fucking people. I think that the NCAA probably had something to do with the Twitter shutdown because then all the white check marks out there were not saying all the doom and gloom stuff about it not happening.
So they're just reading the timeline. They're like, yeah, that's awesome.
I think we can make this happen. It's so bad that I've read all these statements and everyone talking about it.
I'm like, wait thinking like me and I'm an idiot yeah the reality is that uh you learn this as you become an adult but nobody has any idea what the fuck they're talking about right who's the person in charge we need someone to figure this out to keep football but yeah I I'm pretty sure the NFL is running the same exact playbook where they're like you know what August 1 is so far away. And they've been saying that to themselves for the last five months.
Guess what? August 1st is two weeks away. You know what we need? We need some sort of czar.
I feel like there haven't been enough czars in the news recently. If Roger Goodell just appointed like a COVID czar to make all these decisions for him, then at least at that point, he's like, it's off my shoulders.
I've got my czar telling me what to do. Yeah.
And then it's just a lackey for him. And then the czar is just Simmons and Sal talking on a podcast.
Basically, that's, yeah. Mike Greenberg be the czar.
He works. Yeah, that works too.
All right, so that's happening. I don't know.
College football, I'm bummed. But, all right, we're going to stay positive.
We're going to do the thing we're supposed to do. It's going to figure itself out.
It's going to happen. It's going to figure itself out, guys.
It's going to figure itself out, guys. Listen, college football.
Something's going to happen. Last week of August, we're going to have week zero.
Did you hear about this vaccine? Yeah, the vaccine's going to happen. Could happen.
There's the medicine that some people on Twitter say works perfectly, and other people say it doesn't work at all. Open all open air yeah coronavirus can't live in the air oh or it goes away in the summertime summertime hot heat it's good i'm actually starting to talk myself into the idea that maybe springtime college football might even be cooler i don't know why but i'm just convincing myself like maybe maybe weekends are just strictly for nfl yeah this year's – by the way, one thing that we haven't thought about is the implications on fantasy football

with like players that might be testing positive later on in the week.

Oh, we're going to have to have a corona waiver.

Waiver wire is going to be intense.

Matthew Barry has probably like just been heads down just coding brand new applications.

Reading about all this stuff.

Yeah.

Oh, Michelle Obama's got a podcast. Really? Yeah saw that my what's happening who's promoted by spotify is she co-hosting or is is it just her strictly we're fucked cancel it cancel pmt um all right uh we have bubble talk dwight howard got caught without a mask snitch line the snitch line has been popping I do not know why the NBA is not giving us a live stream of the snitch line like when uh a bald eagle's about to have a baby just give us some give us wind horse sitting in a room just picking up the phone and being like oh Dame Lillard what'd you say Dwight Howard's not wearing a mask okay cool yeah I think Dwight Howard probably snitched on himself.
I think he just wanted a break. I have a feeling.
Is Jeff Van Gundy in the bubble, I would assume, because he's going to call games? He'll probably be there, yeah. So he probably snitched on him for finally getting back for his brother.
So Dave Van Gundy joined Twitter recently. He's electric.
Did you guys see his cookie tweet? No. That's what a sentence.
As I pull this up, I'm just going to make a prediction. Oh, I did see that, yeah.
They're going to ban players from shotgunning beers on camera because it's probably like insensitive I'm waiting for that to happen because that's been a trend where all the players are shotgunning beers it's also a very funny trend to watch NBA players when you take away their ability to move around and be like they're richer than everyone but they can't spend their money they just resort to being college kids they're just us it's great like it's it's basically like the walking backwards in evolution like oh what do we do i don't know shotgun some beers if you walk into a supermarket and buy store-bought cookies would you really buy anything other than chips ahoy seems like such an obvious choice to me that was stan fan yeah? Yeah. Stan Van.
I would say Oreos maybe. Nice double stuff.
Oreos. So wait, just store-bought? Yeah.
He's just blinded by the Chips Ahoy. What about Tate's? Chips Ahoy Chewy.
Tate's are not like everywhere. I would say Chips Ahoy Chewy, double stuff Oreos are the goats.
I need a crunch in mine. I go Chips Ahoy M&M.
I need a crunch. I need a crunch.
They aren't cookies. I need a hard crunch.
All right, so that's Bubble Update. Debatable.
Yeah, they're more of like a... They're a cake.
They're like a precursor to a power bar. Yeah.
They're in the cookie aisle. I'll put it this way.
I wouldn't be... Well, there's a lot of stuff in there.
I wouldn't be shocked if you cut into a shoe... Are Oreos a cookie? And it was a Fig Newton inside.
Wait. That would not really surprise me.
It's a frosting sandwich. Time out.
Say what you said again, PFT, and then I'm going to say what I'm about to say.

No, I'm just saying like Fig Newton is a cake.

Yeah, okay.

Agreed.

It's a weird hybrid.

An Oreo is a frosting sandwich.

He just said Oreo is not a cookie.

You said an Oreo is a sandwich?

No, it's not.

It's cookies.

It's a glizzy.

It's cookies.

Is a glizzy a sandwich?

It's not one cookie.

It's not one thing.

I don't care about your Google machine.

A Fig Newton is a pastry.

What? It's pastry one cookie. It's not one thing.
I don't care about your Google machine, Jake. A fig newton's a pastry.
What? It's a pastry. A fig newton.
Yeah. God damn it.
It is a type of pastry. That's on me, guys.
That's on me. That's on me.
I told him. I didn't let him.
I didn't tell him beforehand that he should. It is a type of pastry.
It is. It is a type.
No, I'm just kidding with you. You're good.
I was having such a fucking great day until we fucking did this podcast. Yeah, you were having a great day doing nothing.

No, I wore my fucking favorite tank, and it was like Friday energy. Go off, Billy.

Let it off.

And then you fucking just went off on me.

Go.

Not a Chad.

I didn't even go off on you.

I said I was going to help you.

I don't know.

Give us.

Billy gets 60 seconds here.

Go off on the haters.

You can put me in the hater group, but I love you.

I don't want to.

I don't want to.

I'm not going to do it.

Wow.

See, he's already learned. Bigger man.
That that's good some say even too big of a man that was you know what you just did that was like you taking a aggressive dog's food away as they were eating and he just let you do it yeah you didn't bite my hand that was good billy awesome you're all wound up that's a good boy good job billy guy yeah cook? No, they're... If you took an Oreo...
What the fuck are you talking about? If you took an Oreo and took, you know, the top part off, that single black chip is a cookie. Are you saying that an Oreo is not a cookie? What do you think? Oreos are cookies? It's a frosting sandwich.
This is the most disgusting thing you've ever said, Hank. Billy, Oreos, cookies.
Hank, you would never... I'm not just a douchebag.
It's an ice bag. I can a douchebag.
I can't say anything. What's the difference, PFT? You're the fucking one that eats...
You eat them every single day. Yes.
Ice cream sandwiches. Are cookies.
Fuck cookies. If an ice cream sandwich is a cookie...
Dude, ice cream sandwich isn't a fucking cookie. Then neither is Oreo.
It's the same thing. No, it's much different.
It ain't fucking matter. Yes, get mad, Billy.
He's still mad. Get it.
get it get it hank rules matter in this society okay yeah an ice cream sandwich has malleable bread on the it's like a chocolate bread almost on the outside all right yeah ice cream sandwich with two cookies in between that's that's a ice cream cookie sandwich it's a cookie which the oreo is no no that's not ice cream in the middle it's frosting wait it's freeze dried's freeze-dried. Is an Oreo a freeze-dried ice cream sandwich?

Yes.

Yes, Billy.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We need sports packs so fucking bad.

What are we even talking about right now?

I don't even want to do Guys on Chicks.

It's a perfect ending to the show.

What am I talking about?

This is so sad.

Would you ever wash an ice cream sandwich before you ate it?

No.

Would you wash an Oreo with water?

Yes.

Always.

Different things.

What the fuck?

Yeah.

What the fuck?

Yeah.

Billy, try it.

No, it? No. Would you wash an Oreo? Always.
Yes. Always.
Different things. What the fuck? Yeah.
What the fuck? Yeah. Billy, try it.
No, try it. What the fuck's going on? Try it.
Yeah. Next time you get some Oreos.
Do you wash your Oreos? Yes. Hank does.
Hank does. It's actually delicious.
No, it's not. Why? Try it.
Because he's a weird... Because he's...
It's the same as milk. No.
No. Yes.
Do that fucking Jake. Hank, you...
Does he eat ice cream? And neither does Liam. Wait, what? I never said that.
Yes, you said your stomach makes your stomach weird shit. Are you lactose intolerant, Jake? No, he's just a pussy.
Liam, you don't eat ice cream? No, Billy is spreading fake rumors. I eat ice cream.
Sometimes I don't like to test my stomach with weird shit. Ice cream is weird? No, no, no, no, no.
Weirdo, weirdo. Douchebag.
Verbal meme, we're just the fucking Orange County Choppers guys. Yeah.
I don't even know what we're yelling at. Throwing shit across the room.
Billy was actually mad at Liam because he thought that Liam was lactose intolerant. He thought that that was a beta trait.
No, he is lactose intolerant. Wait, why don't you eat ice cream, Liam? He chose not to eat ice cream.
It makes me sick. Yeah, so he's lactose intolerant.
You're lactose intolerant, then. Well, if he's lactose intolerant, I'm like, okay.
He is. If it makes him sick, he's lactose intolerant.
You want to call him a soy boy, right? Call him a soy boy, Billy. Billy, let him out.
That's very hurtful. Good boy, Billy.
Don't call Billy a soy boy online. Do not do that.
That's my one ask for ever. It's the fucking worst.
Legitimately, for the past For the past three weeks Everyone's been calling Soyboy online In the fucking chat I can't even hop on stream And play some fucking wars And go Soyboy, soyboy, soyboy Fucking sucks Okay So here it is Everyone Please Do not call Billy Football Soyboy online Call him a soy man Yes I legitimately couldn't anything for the guys. My hashtag work that I was supposed to do come on time.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm being cyber bullied.
You're blaming your lack of work ethic on being called a soy boy? I'm being cyber bullied. That's the biggest soy boy thing that you can do is blame not being able to work on being called a soy boy.
This is the best part about Billy is that if he just keeps talking, he will step in it. You just said you didn't do what PFT asked you to do two days ago because people are calling you a soy boy.
No, I really don't know what to do anymore. Yeah.
Well, no, you do nothing. I don't know.
I don't know what I'm supposed to do. You do nothing.
Like, there's nothing for me to do. Get the Diet Cokes.
Show up on time. I get Diet Cokes.
I legitimately, like, think about it. Okay, guys.
Have a fire fest. You're in my head, right? You have to talk on a show, and then there's nothing else for the rest of the day.
You actually really don't have to talk on a show. You have to sit there and occasionally chime in.
Say something funny. Give us your thoughts.
Billy, I'll put this way. You don't have to be funny.
Just give us your thoughts.

You know what?

Here's what we're also going to do, Billy.

How about you start cooking for us again?

I cook all the time, but none of you guys want to eat my food.

All right.

Done.

I cook for Hank.

Billy, I'm going to give you my credit card.

You're going to start cooking for us. Okay.

I will cook for you guys every day.

Okay.

Perfect.

We're going to start having dinner.

You're going to cook it.

Okay.

I will cook dinner every time.

List the three things that you're best at cooking.

Hot dogs.

Glizzy.

Steak.

Okay.

No.

Well, you don't season it.

Well, you know what?

That's because I let the meat talk.

Okay.

Three.

We'll just work with those two.

You're going to get me.

I want to be no carbs, too.

Okay.

We'll get back on ketosis.

Oh, my diet. We'll get back on ketosis.
All right, perfect. That will get you back.
All right, that is our show. Guys on chicks? No, let's end it here.
This is a perfect ending. This is a perfect ending.
Come on, let me say funny shit. No, this is a perfect ending.
This is a great debate about cookies and billions. What are you even talking about, Eddie? Yeah, I don't know.
That's the point. It's like this is the perfect way to end the last week before sports start.
You know what? We have seven days until sports. Yes.
Okay. So we've made it.
When you wake up on Monday morning, we will have sports that week. It's sports week.
That's it. All next week on Part of My Take is sports week.
It's a big throwback. A podcast dedicated to sports.
Yes. Who would have ever thought that like there would be no sports?

You know?

Like, did you?

Whoa, dude.

Nah.

Like.

Always has been.

Damn.

Like getting to sports.

It's like a, it's like a non, like it's always there, but then boom, no sports.

Say love you guys.

Say love you guys.

And then we'll let Billy, why don't you just kind of just talk over take on me?

Love you guys.

I love you guys.

I'll see you understand it. Because you don't really understand anything else like like government or like school.
Like it's just sports. And then there's like you go like meals a day and then there's always sports.
But then you never think, oh, food's going to stop. Sports are going to stop.
Like what are we like? What? And then it stops. And now you're just in a podcast room with six dudes and you don't know what your job is.

Anyway. Thank you.