Scott Boras, Ryan Whitney, Cam Newton To The Patriots

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Big breaking news happens in the middle of the show.

I think you could probably guess what it was.

It involves New England.

So that's fun.

We get instant reaction.

And then, yeah.

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And before we talk about National Championship, let's first tell you that you listening right now have a time portal pmt because we get breaking news we recorded the majority of the show before the national title then we did the last 10 minutes after in about 15 minutes we get breaking news the second that adam schefter tweets it that cam newton is going to the Patriots. So you get exactly perfect instant reaction.

So right now we're living in a world where Cam Newton... This is pre-recorded?

Yeah, pre-recorded.

We're in a world right now where Cam Newton's not on the Patriots.

Yeah, no team's going to sign him.

Yeah, will anyone sign him?

You know what?

If Belichick hasn't signed him by now, he's probably still injured.

Right.

So...

Looks like the Bears were really right to sign Nick Foles because there's no other good quarterbacks out there. No good quarterbacks out there.
Yeah. All right.
So that is coming up. Just get excited for that because it's literally...
I'm excited for it. Instant reaction.
Yeah, Hank is... It is a time capsule.
I love those little moments when there's a time capsule into part of my take. Inside, yes.
Where you can see the takes cooking as they occur naturally. Yes.
But the other news, we are boys. We're going to go to Toledo.
We're going to get a key to the city. Unbelievable.
Nice. Key to the city because of a fucking football game.
Love it. The Rockets are national champions.
They went down to Nolans and they beat Texas. Texas officially not back.
Nope. In the Sugar Bowl.
So I'm going to let you have this time to celebrate the win. I'm not going to ask Doug about his next destination.
How do you feel right after the game? You tried to give that game away. Billy tried to make you give the game away.
It was a combo game of Billy and the chat. The chat, I'm going to just, you know what, I'm going to tip my hat to the chat.
They had a national title type game of calling me a pussy, calling me soft for the entire second half because I was simply trying to win a football game and then I threw the ball with 19 seconds left through a pick that almost was catastrophic. It was almost a pick six.
But that's how the chat is undefeated. The chat has an undefeated season every year.
You became the chat. Your brain became the chat at some point.
It was Barstool Big Chat and they were just swimming around in that little gray matter area between your head. They made you say, fuck it, let's throw the ball.
Yes, let's throw the ball. I'm just excited that we get to go to Toledo and get a key to the city, which I do not know what that entails, but we will make the trip.
Maybe it will be Grit Week next year. It will be so great to get back out there.
And, yeah, I don't know what the what the what the ceremony is gonna look they should never buy a beer in toledo ever again that's right never pay for a beer yeah they should actually make the key to the city open exactly one door like some like the mayor's bathroom figure it out it's the mayor's bathroom that you get to shit it could be a house and i just go around for the rest of my life trying to open doors in toledo yep a little like uh one of those escape rooms that people love to do. Yeah.
We should do one of those. Nah.
I'm more of a hot lava guy. But as a podcast, to actually go in and just try to escape? The escape rooms.
It's like Dungeons and Dragons, I feel like. No, the escape rooms.
We would just end up yelling at each other. Yes, yes.
True. It would go sideways real quick.
I think that those escape rooms are mostly designed for mid-sized companies to do corporate retreats at. Right.
Right. Which, to say, is awesome.
Yes. The best thing ever.
We should do a ropes course. Those are fun.
The obstacle course. Oh, yeah.
Trust fall. Who would you...
Destination Adventure. The outdoor camp where you go in a zipline.
Yes. Who would you least trust in a trust fall? I mean...
Billy? Yeah. No, Hank.
No, you check your phone. You get distracted.
Not because you're not physically capable of catching it, although many people are saying that you've gotten weaker. Hank.
I think we can all agree the person we've most... I'm listening.
Hank, I would not trust you to catch me. Do you want to do one right now? Yeah.
Yeah, do it. Hey, Hank.
All right. All right, they're going to do a trust fall.
This is so stupid. Billy, are you going to catch him? Who's going to catch who?

I want Hank to fall into Billy's arms.

We'll do one-on-one.

So Hank, cross your arms, close your eyes.

All right, trust falls, PMT.

Jake, can you confirm his eyes are closed?

Oh, my God.

Hank, put a back step in there.

Hank thought Billy left him out to dry.

All right, Hank, you go.

Now, Billy, you go.

Hank, drop him.

Drop him, Hank.

Drop him.

Drop him, Hank.

Drop him.

Three, two, one.

Oh, he got him. All right, so we trust each other.
Hank, put a shoulder on him. It.
Right on his head. Drop him.
Three, two, one. Oh!

Oh, he got him.

All right, so we trust each other.

Hank put a shoulder on to him.

It would be such a dick move to do that.

I was going to say, the only one I really trust is Jake.

Jake would absolutely.

Jake wouldn't let us fall to begin with.

No.

He wouldn't even let us in this situation.

Yeah.

All right, so that's.

Some other quick news.

Yeah.

Denny Hamlin won the Pocono 350.

Yes.

Our guy, Denny.

Our guy.

Fuck yes. Way to go, Denny.
Just the king. The Pocono 350 Our guy Denny Fuck yes Way to go Denny The 6th major Who won Travelers Dustin Johnson I was fucking glued I was glued to my TV Watching that Bryson DeChambeau We, those bombs are fucking sexy.
I still don't think that they're actual bombs. Dude.
He's like... He turned himself...
He's hitting bombs. He used his math brain to turn his body into a jock spot.
He drove the... He hit the fucking green on a par...
Was that a par four or five where he almost hit Jon Rahm? I think it was a par five. He's hitting bombs.
400-yard drive. He's hitting bombs.
No, it wasn't a 400. He hit the golf cart or the cart path on one drive.
That one was a bomb. That was a bomb.
But the one that you're talking about, Hank, I think the hole was like 400 yards long, but he cut off the dog leg. So it was really only a 350-yard drive.
I don't know. All I'm going to say is I don't like him.
I'm a Brooks guy through and through, but the bombs at least tickled my fancy. 420.
I mean, a little help, yeah, but 428 yards. He had some help from geometry.
I'm sure Brooks, when he gets back from his caddy having coronavirus, will probably start hitting bombs. That's all he's doing is lifting now.
Yes, exactly. All right.
Oh, the other news. Embrace debate.

C and to the Pats.

Trevor Lawrence was supposed to go to the Pats.

Embrace debate.

What is the debate?

What is the debate?

In the draft.

Would you rather?

I mean, are they going to? What?

The narrative was like they were going to get Trevor Lawrence.

If they finished with the first draft.

Who's narrative?

Also, that means they would have to be the worst team in the league. I know, but they were in a sort of position.
I don't think Bill Belichick will coach the worst team in the league. But Tua.
What? Okay. All right.
Moving on. NBA.
NBA has released their schedule. I'm very excited for this.
I hope they don't take this away from us. Although, Adam Silver, shout out that guy because he said we are going to bring sports back because sports are important it's okay to say that that's a fact it's okay to say that that one hit me right in my heart felt good um the schedule is awesome because we are going to have day games day basketball games and other notable things from the schedule i don't think there are many except for the fact that they rigged it so that Zion gets into the playoffs.
And that's awesome. That's totally cool by us.
Yeah, absolutely. We're 100% behind that.
Also, this is actually really huge news. Adam Silver said that the TV broadcast will have unique and never-before-seen camera angles.
Right. So what is that going to be? Ref body cams? I think it's going to be like the NCAA Final Four slider cam.
Oh, the one that makes me sick? The one that they debuted in like the 100-yard dash at the Olympics? Yes. It just goes back.
The Booger Mobile. Get Booger down there.
He lives in the neighborhood. Yes.
Get Booger on the sidelines. So, yeah, they gave the Pelicans.
Let's see. They played the Kings twice, the Wizards, the Grizzlies, and they do have one game against LA, but that's a pretty night in Orlando.
So they basically play the bottom teams. Yeah.
Good. Get Zion into the playoffs.
I learned one thing about Harry Potter when I was doing those podcasts a couple weeks ago, and that's that they let Harry Potter into the Triwizard Tournament even though he was the fourth team because everybody wanted harry to be in it that's what's happening with zion he's getting he's getting triwizarded yes they actually it is incredible there they have one two three four four out of eight of their games are against teams that are not currently in the playoffs which they aren't as well but that's a nice schedule for them we we get to see to see Zion play on TV, whereas we would not have gotten to see that last week. Hopefully he's not so chunk.
I kind of disagree with you. I hope he's gotten big.
Yeah, really big? Okay. All right, anything else? Do we have anything else that we want to discuss? Anything else? I think that's about it.
Floors open. The FA Cup.
The FA Cup. Yeah.
It happened. It happened It happened.
Oh, Liverpool. We never said congratulations to Liverpool.
All the Liverpudlians. Who's the most famous person from Liverpool? Steven Gerrard.
I can't think of any. Paul McCartney.
We were doing a joke where we weren't going to name the Beatles. Alright.
The Peaky Blinders. Yeah.
Birmingham. Alabama.
They should do that. Paul Feinbaum.
Peaky Blinders based out of Birmingham, Alabama? Yeah, they should just keep progressing it until they immigrate and become the biggest Alabama football fans. I would order Peaky fucking Blinders.
Just like boosters? Peaky Blinders season 18 is just boosters? Yeah. The Bagmen.
Yeah. They do all the savings bidding.
They still wear those hats with the razors in them, except the houndstooth pattern. So it's like the Bear Bryant hats that have razor blades under the lid.
All right. Free show we just wrote for you guys, just like that, off the top of our head.
Okay. Let's get to who's back of the week before we do that.
When your home system or appliance breaks downAT, Sacha Baron Cohen. Oh, yes.
Still got it. After all these years, this weekend he dressed up as a guy named Hillbilly Jim, and there was like a...
The Washington State 3%ers, a right-wing militia group, and it took over the stage, like sung a song that was like super, super fucked up, but everyone that was there were like singing along, thinking it was funny, and then it came out that it was Sacha Baron Cohen and they're embarrassed. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Washington state in Idaho and like Oregon, I feel like has something like this come out about them a lot. I don't, I don't know why white supremacists started to flock to the Pacific Northwest instead of the South in the last like 50 years.
Did you see the interview? One of the guys did where he was like, yeah, we, we had this thing, whole whole thing planned. And the last second we had a private donor swoop in and start uh offering us money to like get musical acts and get a better venue and all this stuff and it was just all sasha baron cohen so they said that right as he went on stage and started doing it like he had all these security guys basically making sure that he could finish the song and it was so he's a's such a fucking genius.
He's also got huge balls. I also sat next to him on a plane once.
Remember that? No. Yeah, that would have been terrible if that plane had crashed.
Because everybody would have been like, Sasha Baron Cohen died on this flight and not mentioned your name at all. Bubba was there with me.
Did I say something to him afterwards? I can't remember. I think I pussied out at the beginning.
My wife. After, like when we walked all the way out.
Yeah, you introduced yourself after the flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't say anything while we were sitting next to each other. I didn't say anything because I think that's kind of awkward to say something at the beginning of the flight and then be like, okay, so this is the situation for the entire cross-country flight.
But I think when we got – it was a red eye, and I think when we got out, I said, like, hey, man, big fan. How sick would that be if the kicker that the Patriots drafted was Sacha Baron Cohen this entire time? In the last, like, four years of his life, he was kicking in West Virginia.
He was at Marshall, right? He can do everything. He's kicking as a bit.
It was a joke. I believe Sacha Baron Cohen could do anything at this point.
I mean, the fact that he's still... Breaking moves.
Oh, yeah? Breaking moves. Speaking of the New England Patriots, former NFL MVP Cam Newton has reached an agreement on a one-year incentive-lated deal with New England Patriots.
Sources tell Mort Report and Adam Schefter. What? They got Cam Newton.
Let's go! Holy shit. Are you joking? You're joking.
This is how not joking I am. I have tweet notifications for Adam Schefter set up, so it just popped up.
Wow. 44 seconds ago.
Fucking go. There you go, Hank.
Hank, walk me through your brain right now. Pretend I'm Joe Rogan interviewing your brain.
I love Sidham. I'm a big big Stidham fan.
I was excited for the Stidham era,

but Cam Newton is a super exciting quarterback, and him being in New England is going to be fucking so fun.

The name of that QB room should be Stardom Stidham.

Sure.

I mean, you're too quick with it.

You're too quick with it.

I mean, Hank.

Let's go.

Let's fucking go.

And Stidham is like, if it doesn't work out,

like Stidham is a great guy to have in there in reserves. I don't think he's going to be the reserve.
Stidham? Yeah. You think Stidham's going to start? No, no.
Oh, sorry. I'm saying if Cam Newton doesn't work out, Stidham is still a good guy to have.
Yeah, no, no. Cam Newton's going to be the starter.
Cam Newton's going to be the starter. It's going to be electric.
The Patriots are going to make the Super Bowl. It's going to be the Patriots and the Bucs, and I'm going to be so excited.
Although my other initial reaction is just like, it's so bizarre thinking of Tom Brady being on the Bucs, Cam Newton being on the Patriots. It just makes me think football's not going to happen.
Yeah, everything's such a bizarre world. Yeah.
Oh, man. I bet you Ernie Adams figured out how to crack the code in the weird text messages and fonts that Cam Newton used, and he was like, I like this guy.
I've got him all figured. It was like the Enigma machine.
Wow. For free agent quarterbacks.
That was some big-ass breaking news. Holy shit.
That might be the biggest breaking news that we've had on the show. Hank, or Billy, what do you got? You want to talk? Belichick's always been talking about how he wants a mobile quarterback.
And they say that was a big thing between Brady and Belichick. Because Belichick was like, I want to get rid of you and get a cool new toy that can run around.

So, like, the football, like, porn that's going to come out of this,

like the X's and O's and blocking schemes and, you know,

quarterback counters that are going to happen.

Like, Belichick's brain with, like, a mobile quarterback,

you're going to see, like, it's, like, mind-blowing, to be honest.

I mean, Cam Newton, he was the MVP, like, what, four or five years ago?

You don't just, I mean, if you win an MVP, it's a pretty good example of how fucking good you are. He's only 31.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, he's got a lot of miles on him, but who cares? The one-year deal, right? And he looks jacked. You're basing it on the Instagram.
I mean, the Instagrams are crazy. Who's back of the week? Julian Edelman.
Yeah. He's got to be pretty pumped.
Not only to have someone to throw to him, but also to have someone to take Instagram photos with him. And then both put their shirts off.
Julian, try to get in that carpool with Cam Newton like you were with Tom Brady. Get Cam listening to Pardon My Take.
Yeah, we'll start texting you weird shit. Uh-huh.
That's huge, though. Do you think Belichick's going to let him text like that? Yeah.
Belichick doesn't care. He cares about what's on the phone.
Belichick, if that becomes like Ernie Adams adopts Cam Newton's texting let go. That's what I'm saying.
He's broken the code. Yes, he absolutely will.
It would not shock me if Bill Belichick was on his Finsta account that nobody knows that he has. He calls it his face snap or whatever.
If Bill Belichick's captions were already being written in the Cam Newton font right now. Wow.
He's way more online than he wants us to know. Huge news.
Huge news. Okay.
Whew. You have a who's back, PFT.
I'm so fucking excited for football. That's crazy.
I'm so fucking excited. Let's go.
That's crazy. Yeah, my who's back of the week is XFL nameplates because the NBA is going to let players do, like, customized names across the back of their jerseys for this playoff situation that's going on down in Orlando.
So the XFL did that. We all remember he hate me, Rod smart, best custom name I think of all time.
So now we've got, I'm, I'm just excited to see what JaVale McGee and J.R. Smith, who is also back.
J.R. Smith might be joining the Lakers to replace Avery Bradley.
J.R. Smith, JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard, they're going to have some real funny jokes on the back of their jerseys.
What an incredible group. I would understand why LeBron James is driven to drink if he has to play with those three guys all the time.
Oh, dude, do you imagine...on's we never talking about this do you think lebron sommelier sommelier sommelier sommelier the smelly guy the do you think he gets uh in the bubble yes absolutely has to a million percent yes yes yes why is that so sommelier they try to right they try to make it so that you have to be rich just to pronounce it.

That's how they try to keep it down.

Yeah, like if you can't pronounce it, then you were too intimidated to ask for one.

Exactly.

It's like saying if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.

That's smart.

You got any t-shirt ideas, PFT?

While I have you here?

I would just have...

Wham, bam.

Thank you, Cam.

Thank you, Cam.

Let's see.

New England Patriots. What can we do with that? Don't put me on the spotlight.
I just gave you Stardom Stidham. I thought that was pretty fucking good.
Do the Patriots in the Cam text. Yes.
Yeah. There we go.
RLFG in the Cam font. Yeah.
With Cam's silhouette on it. That's pretty good.
All right. My Who's Back is Dickie V.
Dickie V is back. Dickie V is trying to save the world.
Dickie V is putting out PSAs about how important it is to wear your mask. Dickie V is doing all this while not covering his nose with the mask.
One of the funniest videos I saw this weekend, Dickie V trying to get everyone, which is a good thing. We want more people wearing masks.
But if you're going to say that everyone should wear a mask, you really got to get it over the nose. Yeah, you got to be a PTP PPE-er.
You got to do it. You got to show up.
You got to be a diaper dandy and really swaddle your face in that whole thing. So Dickie V, though, good try, good effort.
Keep going. Did you see the video that he put out last week of him in the hot tub? Yes.
Wearing his full polo shirt. Full ESPN shirt.
You fucking made it. Yes.
That's an alpha move because you're like, I have a closet filled with these ESPN polo shirts that they don't give to anybody else. Yes.
For some reason, Dickie V has his private stash of the polo shirts no one else gets. Bobby Knight had an entire walk-in closet of just the ESPN sweaters.
Yep. And nobody else.
I wouldn't be surprised, actually, if Dickie V made his own ESPN polo shirt. Yes, yes.
Yeah, just to like make sure like, oh, I only have five. I need double that because I like to wear one for morning and afternoon and night and in my hot tub ESPN shirt.
So Dickie V's back. I also, Karen's are just having such a great moment right now.
Do you think Karen is going to win Time Person of the Year? I think it should. I mean, Karens are having a dynasty.
The only thing I can see is now the Karens are starting to get in on the joke and self-referencing their Karen-ness. Right, but it's...
Once we start calling people Karens, I think that's kind of the line where it becomes not cool anymore it's incredible that this many people just keep losing it in public not realizing they're going to be videotaped every single time i'm like you realize you're being videotaped are we in the trust tree right here yeah so no scouts honor this is only for big cat and hank and billy and bubba and jake to listen to nobody else can listen okay i think ins. Yeah.
Like, I don't... They have an energy.
I don't care what they're saying or what they're doing. It's usually something abhorrent.
But whenever I see a Karen video, it gets me going. It's like a little bit of that craziness.
Mm-hmm. Like, tell you what, I go from six to midnight when I see a woman, like, throwing a pack of, like, frozen chicken thighs across a Walmart parking lot.
Dude, I mean, the one this weekend with the... Because somebody asked her to like baby shirt oh the baby shirt oh that should be an immediate turn off for most people yeah but for me i saw that karen i was like you know what would yeah i mean karen's have an energy about them they're alphas yes they are they're terrible terrible people but they're alphas in their own right yeah and they just they exude some kind of like, oh, my God.
You just get a look from a Karen and you feel like you did something wrong. You've been a bad boy.
Yeah, exactly. There was that other Karen that was in – she was like going to lunch at a Tex-Mex place down in Texas.
She was complaining because her shredded cheese took too long to get out. And so that picture that went viral.
Oh, that was such a great picture. Of her just like staring longingly into the distance.

What an all-time self-owned by that guy to his own wife.

Yeah.

She'd be like, look at my wife who can't handle not eating fajitas without cheese.

By the way, shredded cheese would be a sick name for like a paleo cheese.

For people that are trying to get like absolutely shredded.

Jack cheese.

Yep.

Yeah.

Cheddar Jack.

Oh shit.

Breaking news.

Breaking news. More breaking news.
Big cheese. Yep.
Yeah. Cheddar Jack.
Oh, shit. Breaking news.
Breaking news.

More breaking news.

Bigger breaking news.

Danny Boy Kane just tweeted, Cam to New England on a one-year deal per Adam Schefter.

Confirmed.

So for anyone who follows Danny Boy and doesn't follow Adam Schefter, now you know.

Now you know.

The funny thing is, Danny Boy Kane just, he absolutely broke that news to probably a thousand people. Yeah.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
I'll know. Now you know.
The funny thing is, Danny Boy Cain just, he absolutely broke that news to

probably a thousand people. Yeah, hell yeah.

Hell yeah. I'll always remember where I was.

Alright, Billy, you got a who's back?

I got two. Jake helped me with one.

First one, competitive eating

is back. Joey Chestnut will

be doing his

duty to the country

by eating hot dogs on July 4th.

Just not in front of a live

audience. Do you want to plug our video?

Sure. Are we going to talk

I'm sorry. his duty to the country by eating hot dogs on July 4th, just not in front of a live audience.

Do you want to plug our video?

Sure.

Are we going to talk?

Well, yeah.

Barstool is going up against a bear.

I'm taking on a bear.

PFT, KC, KFC, Feidelberg, Brandon Walker, Dave and I announcing against a bear.

Yeah.

You would have – well, I'm not going to spoil what happened.

I think it would have helped. I think it would have helped.
I would appreciate you not spoiling what happened. Yes, thank you, Billy.
I think you would have well i'm not gonna spoil what happened i haven't even in a week i would appreciate you not spoiling what happened yes thank you billy i think i would have helped okay okay well you'll have to tune in to see who wins people or a bear yes and it's it's not billy but billy did help me billy gave me some strategy ahead of time and i'm not a drug guy but i broke my own rule and i got high high just to help everything start moving inside my body. Also, who's back of the week? Mike Leach was messing around at a press conference with all the SEC coaches.
He snapped Lane Kiffin's mask off his face. Yeah, guys.
Yeah, like Mike Leach messing around. I can't wait to see the SEC when sports come back, but competitive eating coming back gives me hope.
I'm a little upset that we've been deprived of Mike Leach memes recently. I feel like somebody has Mike Leach's phone.
Oh, absolutely. Because the boomer memes that he wishes he could be posting every single day right now simply haven't been coming.
Yes, I would absolutely agree. Mike Leach, a beautiful mind never rests.

So maybe we'll have like a buildup, you know?

Eventually when he gets his phone back,

we'll just have an avalanche of Mike Leach memes.

Go nuts. I would love to play for Mike Leach.

That must be awesome.

I know, I know.

But he'd also maybe lock you in a shed.

Actually, what if you were?

What if we just got you on Mississippi State?

Would you go?

Dude, I get my ass wrecked.

Would you go to Starkville, though?

If I had to. Dude, what if you were just sitting just you could probably walk on and be a special teamer i'd have to survive like nutcrackers in training camp but you know how awesome would that be i would be sick but i probably wouldn't be able to speak normally after i feel like you could is that just from living in mississippi for you i don't know i feel like you played you play down and play up to your competition.
You're ready to go. What about personal punt protector? You can do that.
I can do you pee pee. Yeah, Adam Marchaletta did that.
Tim Tebow did that. I can do you pee pee.
Yes. But I don't know, but they're going to think I'm a fraud.
Why? Because it's nepotism. You're throwing me in there, and then they're going to be like, fuck this kid.
You are related to Mike Leach. That's true.
No, no, no. Your grandfather, Mike Leach.
Yes, you are related to us as well. Yes, true.
Anyway, I just wouldn't feel like I earned it. Yeah.
But you know what, Billy? At some point, if that's the biggest hurdle that you have to get over in life is that people say that you're a product of favoritism, you're still doing good at the end. So I'll start applying to Mississippi State grad school.
Okay. That'll probably work out.
Yeah. Perfect.
All right. Let's get to our interviews.
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Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, super agent, Scott Boris. He is calling in from California.
A lot to talk about.

Thank you for joining us as always.

And I guess let's start with just a very simple question.

Will there be baseball played this year?

Certainly we're in the process now.

We have defined protocols.

Players are going to be reporting.

And we're ready to begin on a scheduled date. And they're putting the final schedules of that together in late July.
So we have every expectancy of playing a 60-game schedule. That sounded like a yes, but it was a little bit safe there on the yes.
If you had to guess, will it happen? Will it go through? Because we're seeing it right now with sports where the plan's there, but there's hiccups even getting to the finish line. I know baseball's had a lot of hiccups along the way, but from here to actually starting, do you think it's going to happen? I think the expectancy is that everyone's going to play in an empty stadium and televise it.

That would probably take about 125 people to be tested

and to really have a forum, which I think is very controllable.

And so to set up a safe environment and do all that, I think it's workable, yes.

I've thought this entire season that the players have done a remarkably good job at holding the line, at all kind of being on the same page. And even if there are some cracks in the thoughts of which things we should concede on, which things we shouldn't, they haven't been made public.
Were you surprised at the job the players did in this age of social media

where every player has an Instagram account and a Twitter account that if they wanted to, they could say, hey, we should give in on this point to the owners? Are you surprised that nobody has kind of crossed that line this summer? I think the, you know, again, I work with, you know, the major league players I represent, and certainly we had multi-weekly dialogues, information exchanges. The interest level in this, obviously, was something where it was really more than a negotiation.
It was really about health and safety. It was about what we're going to do to get back and aid our country in playing the game and playing the game at a high level, being competitive, and even beginning in March, players really agreed to give away half their salaries so they could play baseball.
And they knew that they were going to be good partners, and they alleviated from the owners a huge responsibility of $4.5 billion in contracts and said, you know what? Whatever games we play, those are the only games I'm being asked to be paid for. So I thought the players responded ethically, and they were really great partners.
and yes yes i think they were actively involved at every level uh and the solidarity of the group was uh um the best i've seen in some time explain this to me because i mean i kind of understand it but i think a lot of people get confused with how baseball is run why is it so hard for baseball owners to have

transparency when it comes to their books and what they're they're gaining and losing every single season and because it felt like the fix here from the beginning was if they just show exactly what is happening and how much money they're losing you could probably come to to a good conclusion, but instead they're not going to be transparent,

and why would the players then trust them they shouldn't?

So why is it like that in baseball?

Well, I think what each franchise does is somewhat of a secret to each franchise.

You have ancillary revenue streams that are being created that under the rules, they do not want them to be a part of revenue sharing. So I'm investing in hotels and restaurants and casinos and all these things within the arena of, you know, my attraction is my stadium and the games played there.
Yeah. And in my opinion, the athletes that perform in that stadium, I don't think anybody sits in those seats to watch the grass grow.
So the reality of it is that you're that attraction. And so when I have people to this attraction, what can I do to get them there longer before and after? And I also know that I can partner and invest.
Every owner in the game has been tremendously successful.

If you've owned your franchise over 10 years, you've increased your franchise value by four times. And so you're now a billionaire.
You're now doing something that you may have bought it for $200 million or $300 million 20 years ago, 15 years ago. Well, now you're looking at having equity of over a billion dollars.
And they're taking that money, and under the debt equity rule, they can borrow up to about 40% of it. They borrow that money and then they reinvest it in other products that are going to enhance their revenue stream.
And the design of the rules is that I don't want the other owners sharing in my local revenue. So I'm going to build all of these.
I'm going to start separate companies and I'm going to build it outside center field, but it's not a revenue. It's not something that goes on in the ballpark.
And so therefore I'm going to do all of these things. The other thing is I'm going to start RSNs, the regional sports networks.
I'm going to build them. I'm going to have ownership.
So then I have ownership of the RSN. So my right, if I was negotiating with a true arm's length transaction, my right might be worth 300 million.
So what I'll do, I'll pay my team 75 million for that $300 million right. I'll own the RSN and I'll keep that money at the RSN.
So I don't have to share with my other owners. So when you talk about transparency, there's not really transparency with the owners themselves because they are using the rules to keep more revenues within their specific franchise.
And they don't really want to deliver. For example, the RSN contracts are delivered.
They're redacted. You can't read them.
You have no idea what's going on. So when people talk revenue sharing you have to get a definition of revenue you get a definition of revenue you've got to go in and talk about for every player who plays a game and attracts an audience what revenue is that audience bringing to the entirety of each franchise and to create a definition that is broad to actually bring in that number, I think it's not something that in any way an owner of a franchise or MLB's representation wants them to do because it would expose to the audience about why these franchises are quadrupling in value over 15 years.
And the reason is they're making a lot of money. That's interesting.
So the competition is primarily between the owners and not necessarily between the owners and the players. If you look at it from a very high level, a big picture, they have more to lose in terms of their next door neighbor kind of coming into their market and taking money out of their pocket as opposed to giving a bigger contract once every couple of years.
I think PFT, a lot of people think this negotiation is about management and players. The real negotiation, in my mind, is about the infrastructure of how ownership shares its revenues.
and that if you are the representatives of the owners

and you're the lawyer for them,

you've got a problem

because you've got a lot of people

saying a lot of things to you.

And so you reach an agreement in March

and all of a sudden

there is a totally different strategic measure

because every owner says they want to play games.

And then all of a sudden, a lot of owners don't want to play games and others do. And so that dynamic is what takes so long to get offers.
We were done in March 26th. They had an agreement for April 10th to get together and make offers, do things.
First offer came May 26th. Why? Because there was a, in my mind, a real deliberation among the owner's interest about how to approach this and what to do.
So as Rob Manford is kind of, he's put it as a figurehead in charge of overseeing some of these negotiations here. He said that 40% of revenue is tied to the gate.

Now, do the individual owners have a legal responsibility to tell him the truth in terms

of their overall revenue?

Or is he just kind of asking everybody, putting his finger in the air and saying, yeah, it

feels like about 40%?

Well, again, you use the term revenue.

My point is the narrowness of what they describe revenue, they can concoct a 40% number.

But the thing is that just in the RSN values, just in the ancillary revenues that come in, that term revenue is so, I think, varied from the consideration of all the potentials of how you define what revenue is for each franchise. And until you have and you say, we're going to look at any way an owner of a major league team can make money.
I can go and work with my municipality. Remember, we reached an agreement.
The next day, the Angels announced this billion-dollar project to build this tremendous ancillary construction outside the stadium, maybe a new stadium, that is going to attract, it's going to have hotels, it's going to have restaurants, dining, it's going to be a Disneyland too, if you will. And all of this is never announced until after an agreement.
And so consequently, you've got a whole different business plan that is done due to the attraction of the stadium. I don't think you'd be doing all this in a parking lot in Anaheim off the five freeway, unless there was a major league team there to basically promote and draw attention to the millions of fans that will come to this area.
And so is that revenue or is it separate? Is it something that we look at in how we talk about the value of players or how we talk about how the value of ownerships is derived? We know in the purchase price of the teams that that is certainly considered because why are these teams now worth $ you know, two, three, 4 billion when they were worth two or 300 million 20 years ago? So you said that they're going to play this year. It looks like they're going to play this year, but there's obviously the big looming CBA 2021.
Do you think sitting here right now that it's going to be, we're going to get up to a strike and it's going to be similar situations? Because what we're describing right now doesn't seem like a healthy financial relationship between the owners and players. Well, certainly, you know, we had a billion dollars in revenue in 90, 3 billion in 2000, around 7 billion in 2010.
And now we're up to 11 and going to 15. Our industry is very healthy.
The media contracts in a pandemic, they just negotiated a three and a half billion dollar rights fee for the playoffs. So this is a game, fresh content.
The greatest thing about baseball is that now we have new streaming rules where if you own the rights and the RSN,

you can have a menu and Netflix or Amazon or anyone can go purchase a game

from you and they could pay you double the rates.

And then because they want that game broadcast or streamed on their,

on their site. So their platform.

So there's all kinds of new ways to create the content, fresh content. That's really what the audience wants.
That part of baseball is so great because we have 162 dates. We're not an event game.
We're a life game, you know, football, they play once a week and they only play, you know, a few games a year. And the reality of it is we're a part of life, and that content is of great value.
And therefore, this game is very healthy. Now, it is really more, it's not about the idea that we're baking a great pie every year.
It's really how we distribute the pie. It's going to be the issue in this process so you are uh you're you've been very successful in your career i would imagine in part because you're able to put yourself in the position of your opponent at the negotiating table or your adversary whatever word you want to choose to describe that that person that you're going to be uh going to bat for against with a player uh in your opinion what would their strongest argument be on the ownership side for the reason why salaries have stayed the same essentially over the course of the last four years while the revenue has grown? It's certainly not revenues and it's not historic because we've always seen salaries go up when revenues have gone up in Major League Baseball, when there is a representative process where the players are collected.
Players have solidarity. When the players don't have solidarity, I believe that their salaries are not going to take the appropriate steps that they should.
And so it's really about players looking and deciding what their rights platform needs to be going forward, what they're willing to do to obtain it. There's always a sacrifice made by a small group in that group for the large, for the most.
And that's how unions work. It's always how they work.
And so really a lot of this is a choice. And I think going forward that players will have to review and examine that and understand that there is never going to be a transparent sharing of what the true revenues of the sport are because the definition of revenue is not shared by both sides.

And when you talk about when you have the information and others don't, that's an advantage. And so always knowing what the true revenues are allows you to know what good business is to reach an agreement.
and obviously, the most difficult part for the players is to really look at one another and say, we believe this, we understand this, we know this, and therefore we're going to take this stance versus the decision-making of ownership where they know a great deal more. But my suggestion is that even individual franchises know what information they have to give the league and they know what they don't have to give the league.
So there's always that going on as well. So you got criticized by Trevor Bauer publicly on Twitter.
What happens after that? Do you reach out to his agent? Do you reach out to Trevor? Like, how does that play out? Do you not care? What was the next 24 hours like after he, you know, says that you're meddling with the MLBPA and making it difficult to bring baseball back? My job is as an attorney, I represent, you know, the hundred or so major league players I represent. It has no, I frankly wasn't aware of it for a day or two because I'm focused on our clients and what we do.
Right. How we do it.
And I always believe that, you know, when you play professional baseball, you learn that you deal with your teammates. You deal with your people and you deal with people you work for.
And I have varied opinions on what the people that I work for, I make sure those opinions are communicated to their union. I'm not involved with the day-to-day operation of the union because of the fact that I represent individual players.
And my job is to make sure that their voices and their concerns are given to the union. And so as people that speculate, they don't know what I do.
They don't know my role. The players I represent do.
Zach Britton responded and told, I think, everyone involved what my role is with them is that I give them information. We have discussions.
I communicate their voice and really illustrated the truth of what I do. And all I care about is that the players I represent know that and that if players want to talk to other players that I don't represent and there is a question about it, that's probably the best way to communicate among them in uniform so that they can get a dialogue and understand it.
What are some of the unintended consequences going to be going into next year's, next offseason's free agency, when there are going to be so many fewer games played this year, no matter what agreement is reached? Obviously, I would assume that there's the argument that you could make. There's less wear and tear on the player's body.
They're healthier going into free agency. But then there's also some of the players that don't get a chance in a contract year to really step up and have a year that defines them and puts them in a good position going into the offseason.
So what are some of those other unintended consequences that we might not see coming for you and your clients? I think you always have to put yourself in an ownership chair and talk about what is it that I, how do I make my decisions? Well, what, what do we do? And the thing is when you have a player with a very consistent track record, who is a, an elite player, and he goes out and for 60 days just does more of what he's done in the past um that that you're not really concerned about the length of the season you're not you you you might particularly for pitchers you would probably say that's a benefit i'm getting a fresher fresher player when i contract with him because he had less innings on his arm and and such going forward. For players that have been hurt and players that have not established the consistency in their careers, obviously the shorter time allows more speculation because there's less opportunity.
I always say that in our jobs, you don't worry about the cup. You worry about the coffee because whether or not there is a quarter of a cup or a full cup, the reality of it is you want the quality of that coffee to be what it should be.
And so it's up to the cup how much coffee is in it. And so that's not, that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the coffee.
And our job is the quality of the coffee. So the real reason why we had Scott on the show today is he wanted to have a big platform to announce Chris Bryant accepting a seven year, a hundred million dollar extension withubs.
Hometown discount. So walk us through that negotiation.
What made you decide to get probably a lot less money for Chris Bryant to stay in Chicago? Great job, by the way. Has the dream ended for you, Chicago Cubs fans? I thought maybe you'd tip your hand or something, your reaction.
People who are what we'll put this clip out you i thought i thought you froze on camera for a second that's how good you are at uh with your poker face and not even giving like a twitch of like oh my god what does he know there was nothing there nothing in this dream did you walk into in-Out Burger and get five for one? Did that day happen too? Okay, so you're saying that Chris Bryant's going to sign a 35-year, $500 million contract? I don't think I was referencing anything to do with Chris Bryant. I was talking about your dream, about things that you would find to be most rewarding.
Realistically, this year with the 60 games, have you had any conversations with pitchers on your roster of clients and how teams might use them? I would imagine a lot of teams with this type of sprint are going to maybe go short rests, smaller rotations. That probably affects clients both ways.
Some guys probably fringe rotation guys not getting as many starts or workhorses getting worked a little bit more than usual. Have you had that conversation? I think the starting pitchers, it's more calculated as to their, you know, their program for building into a season.
Because you can define that. What I'm most concerned about is the bullpen.
Because the frequency of use, the demands on them, they are the, when the starting pitcher has to come out earlier, or when he has to titrate his schedule to build up innings. All those things, I think, are going to be protective measures that are easy to implement.
The issue is going to be the games that go long, the relievers that are pitching extra innings. All of these things are going to be an issue and just the frequency with which they're going to be used because essentially they are the backstop.
They are the in line for whatever irregularities occur in a game. And it is those men that I have the greatest concern concern about and it's a good point because I would imagine managers are going to have a you know quicker trigger when it comes to pulling guys out knowing that there's only 60 games managing games like the playoffs and correct me if I'm wrong but this is the year where we're starting that a pitcher who comes in has to face three batters right correct so that changes you know you can't go just you know keep pulling one guy in one guy out guys are going to have to uh pitch a lot out of the bullpen interesting uh do you think that the owners are afraid of you oh no not at all we we work with you know we work with owners because remember that 95% of our jobs is really collaborative.
We're talking about players' health. We're talking about players' conditions.
We're talking about how to make players that we have in their organization better. um this is a very uh um you know we we have resources and and in boris corp that other agencies don't have because we have a sport fitness institute.
We have 10 trainers. We have a medical staff.
We have psychologists. We have a database that is unlike any other.
And so consequently, you're able to have conversations with with owners at levels that really enhance the performance. And we have success rate measurements that illustrate that our clients really do perform and succeed in the game at higher levels.
And so we like to share those things with them because really we have a common interest in almost 95% of what we do. And that is we want players to play well, be optimal, do well, and, and execute their contracts both before and after they sign.
And it's, it's really a, it's a very participatory relationship and you're, you're really working together, pulling the same rope to make sure players play well. I love it.
Yeah, you live your life kind of on the cutting edge of all these different metrics. You're famous for having your binders or your folders that you will use to demonstrate a player's value, not only before they sign with the team, but also after as you're working with them.
My question for you is, do you have a binder on yourself that you show to a player that's trying to choose which agent to represent them? And you're like, hey, here's Boris Korps wins above replacement compared to the other agents out there. Well, we have many different ways of evaluating the system, if you will, which I think is common to anyone who represents players.
You know, the main thing is when we talk about what we do and, you know, we've negotiated over, you know, the last three or four years, over $2 billion, $2.5 billion, $3 billion worth of contracts. And that's unparalleled in really any other baseball agency and anyone involved.
And that really shows the illustration of working with ownership and working with great players and creating that bridge that allows them to, you know, achieve their objectives and their goals and also work with ownership so that, you know, we've we've had a lot of players sign big contracts and they won world championships.

And or the discussions of signing major draft picks, high level draft picks that have really allowed teams to win world championships. For example, there's a player you guys aren't really aware of.
And Chris Bryant, who was the second pick in the draft and became a rookie of the year and an MVP and won a world championship. So these types of things, you know, are in many ways franchise decisions.
And you get a lot of calls. There's a lot of information exchanged.
There's a dialogue. In the end, clubs are going to choose the players they want.
And our job is to give them enough information so that that selection that they make is,

they've heard everything that they can to consider to make what we would consider a positive choice.

And then once they do sign the contract,

the execution level is second to none

about what we do to make sure that players perform at high levels.

This guy, Chris, he sounds like he's had a really successful career so far in Chicago.

Like it might be kind of a gamble if he were to ever leave, you know, the location that

he's really laid down roots in.

Hitting eye.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sounds like he should stay.

It feels like there's a lot of risk if he were to leave.

He's frozen again.

Who knows what happens?

You know, the greatest thing in sport is to be wanted, to be coveted. The greatest thing in sport for you is free agency.
And to be wanted and to be coveted for a player, it's such a warm feeling. And I want you both to know that I will extend that message we we should have we should make a like a one shining moment where it's always the greatest you know plays in March Madness and the thrill of sport except that Scott Boris is just headlines of huge contracts the greatest thrill in sport free agency I have one last question for you it's a little out of left field, to use a baseball term.
We went to your office last time.

Beautiful office.

Gorgeous office. question for you it's a little out of left field to use a baseball uh term we went to your office last time beautiful office gorgeous office when guests go to your office are you okay with them using the bathroom that bathroom's for everyone correct we have multiple bathrooms yep and you use the media bathroom right which is open for everyone would you say that it would be borderline inappropriate for a first time guest to your office to use the media bathroom.
Right, which is open for everyone. Would you say that it would be borderline inappropriate for a first-time guest to your office to use the bathroom for an extended period of time? Well, remember that we don't have a doorknob on our door.
Yeah. So the rarity of people that come to our office, usually you have to be of major league caliber right and therefore we invited you because you've reached that status and i congratulate you okay so that means he he could have pft could have used the bathroom instead of making a stop at a 7-eleven right down the street and he used that bathroom instead because he was so intimidated by you.
Well, the attendant in the bathroom was ready for you. So I wanted you to know that we had all forms of sprays, perfumes, dumb when you leave.
It was there for you. And if I had only known the need, we would have given you the appropriate response.
You said it yourself that the restroom is, you know, a lot of major league ballplayers and elite athletes go there. I would assume that the infrastructure that you have inside the actual stall is more well equipped to handle the production of a very, somebody with high nutrition in their body, of which I am am not so i was just trying to save you some money on your plumbing bill uh for some reason that makes me the worst person in the world no holding it in at a guest house before i leave well just to let you know in the player facilities we have video equipment and we also have their nutritional uh juices and such that they drink now in the media room we have donuts before noon yeah and then we then we have uh your classic philly uh you know cheese steak yeah type dynamic for you so we we appeal to our audience that's actually a a good point.
You know how to keep the media happy. The media bathroom.
Disgusting things. And make sure that they have enough soda, Diet Coke, and they'll be happy.
There's nothing that media toilet has. And of course, we have a full complement of Lysol spray.
Right, right. That's why you're the best.
Thank you. Thank you for Steven Strasburg.
Just thank you. Always a pleasure, fellas.
You know that. I appreciate that.
Yeah. And hopefully we have no labor stoppage in 2021, although you're going to get the best deal because you always do, right? Well, that is not my arena.
I represent individual players, but I'm sure the Major League Baseball Players Association is hoping for what you just said. They want to, I'm sure, get this done and move forward.
And I hope they do. And I hope all the baseball works that way.
Yes. All right.
Well, thank you so much, Scott Boris. Always a pleasure.
We really appreciate it. And best of luck in the 60 game season.
We all want to see it. So we're excited for baseball to come back.

And, you know, I congratulate you, Big Cat and PFT on your success, because when I first met you, you didn't have a desk.

That's true.

That's true. That is true.

We're coming up. Now we have an assignment desk to huge, huge, huge come up for us.
You're on your way. Yes.
Thanks again. Thanks.
Appreciate it, Scott. Take care, guys.
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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend ryan whitney wit uh first of all how's it going how is quarantine for you how's quarantine been and how is your golf game i'm assuming it's gotten better yeah i mean at the beginning quarantine was a nightmare it was march it was I had nothing to do. But as the weather got better and better and golf came back slowly but surely, it's gotten a little better.
I mean, I need something to do at night. I need sports back.
I can only watch Doug so often. But still, I mean, overall, with golf back, I mean, I'm living as good as I can.
It's great to talk to you guys. Yes.
Yeah, good to hear from you. It's great hearing from you.
What's your handicap down to? It's about a zero right now. You know, no big deal.
You're scratching it out there. Nice.
Nice. Yeah, just out there scratching an itch.
You know how it is. All right, so we've heard about the NBA.
We've heard about baseball. Hockey had their announcement like a week ago or so where they said that this is what the seeding is going to be.
Everyone makes the playoffs basically. I feel like we haven't heard anything since.
Are we going to get hockey or no? I go back and forth every day, but I really do think we will. I mean, it's just you see the reports of guys on the PGA Tour testing positive and people are flipping out.
They shouldn't be playing and blah, blah, blah. But in talking to players, they want to play.
I'm kind of surprised by that because it's been so long and it's the middle of the summer and hockey players love playing golf. But when you look at the realistic point that money next year will just be a disaster for these guys if they don't play because of what's going to happen with escrow and all the boring type stuff.
So, I mean, I think that they're going to get it done. I really do.
I mean, it's going to be weird, and it's interesting to see all these teams that got in barely into this playing round, and I've called it. It's going to be the Corona Cup this year, so they're actually only going to take off the top bowl of the Stanley Cup and hand it to the winners.
So forever, a little bit of an asterisk. People have argued with me over that, but still, I just think it's different.
It's odd, but I still want to watch hockey. So I think we will be back.
I really do. And in that, we'll be seeing what it's like to watch hockey in front of no fans and watch fourth-liners try to get up to getting people's faces and being pain in the ass without the fans firing them up.

So it'll be weird.

Waiter, are you serious that when they hand out the Stanley Cup, it's not going to have the bowl on the top?

No, it's just going to be the bowl.

They're just going to give the bowl. Just the top.

Yeah, the only thing that you can drink out of is what they're passing around.

I kind of like that.

Yeah, exactly.

The stuff that's had God knows what in it before will just be handed around this year. It'll be a little different.
It had my lips on it, so it's got all sorts of communicable diseases. We know that.
In that case, nobody should be touching that shit. Yeah.
So if they do come back and play, and we all are hoping for it, how weird is it going to be to play in front of absolutely no one, and how much that change like which teams have a shot and which don't because like obviously playoff hockey when you're on the road it's very difficult it's going to be so bizarre it's so bizarre and like i mentioned i think it's way harder for the guys that that play that in your face like i'm a piece of shit type player where it's like the crowd fires me up whether it's the crowd that hates me or the crowd that loves me because I do play this third, fourth line role. So it's like those guys, I mean, they're going to have to get up to be in people's faces with no fans and no noise.
Now, for the viewers, I've seen a bunch of different reports that they've already tested out how the computer generator or the fake fans would look and it actually looks decent so I I mean that part might be decent might be okay but the players in terms of getting up for games it's going to be so odd and you'll be able to hear everything said on the ice to every guy the coaches will be able to be heard by the other bench it's just it's what's hardest to even imagine it because we've never seen anything like this to even even picture what this is going to be like. I will say, I've kind of thought this over.
And I think that the first few games will be bizarre. And people will be getting their foot.
But by the time if this goes on, and then there's, you know, Eastern Conference Finals, Western Conference Finals, Cup Finals. I mean, at that point, they'll be so used to it.
It'll be as good as be as good as you could, as you could get. I think it's just the beginning in terms of guys getting their feet under, under them and figuring out like how weird it's going to be to play so hard and play in your stuff, in your face type hockey with no crowd.
You know what they should do? I think it would suck personally. They should bring back the, uh, the Fox puck track system and just have that for the first two games so that we can all complain about that and how bad that is.

And then they can take that away.

And then the viewing experience will look great compared to seeing that little red dot

follow the puck around.

So, yeah, it's like give them something even worse to really block what you're worried about getting shirped for.

I like that idea.

Exactly.

Yeah, throw the haters a bone.

That's very smart.

Do you think that this favors teams that have kind of an older group of guys?

They get some time off to kind of get their legs under them, get rested up for the playoffs.

We'll be right back. the haters of bone.
That's very smart. Do you think that this favors teams that have kind of an older group of guys? They get some time off to kind of get their legs under them, get rested up for the playoffs? Or is it a young man's game where you're like, okay, we're going to quarantine you all in this weird new city, so it's better if you're like a younger guy who's a little bit more resilient anyways? Well, it's certainly the young guys league, you know, young legs.
But I don't know how these young guys have been living during quarantine, right? I mean, the young guys would be the ones who ended up getting after it all the time. You can't go to bars, but you could still have a bunch of house parties.
These older guys with their family, they might have been just kicking it, taking it easy the entire time. So I know we talked to Alex Kalorn on Tampa Bay, and we were kind of asking him him similar type questions that he just mentioned that their whole team's already talked about just really being

smart,

living correctly,

doing what they should be doing in terms of on their own and quarantine.

So I really don't think it's going to help older or younger.

It's just going to depend on who's taking care of themselves throughout this

three,

four month break.

So the draft lottery was on a Thursday or Friday night. Oh, here we go.
So were you in faith? For people who didn't see, the NHL did the draft lottery. They decided the first whatever it was, eight picks, ten picks.
I think it was eight picks. And then the last, the number one pick, they left blank, and they said there's going to be a phase two where they decide who gets the number one pick.
What, did you, did you know, did they say this was coming? Or was this a total, like, M. Night Shyamalan twist? Yeah, this was a serious twist, but it was so perfect.
I mean, it's like whatever, what's that old, PFT, you'll know. What's it, Murphy's Law? Anything that can go wrong will? Is that it? Yeah, yeah, we can change that to Witt's law, though.
I like that. Just take credit for it.
Okay, shout out to me. Shout out to me, remembering that law.
I didn't understand the exact rules. Like, going in, I was reading about the lottery, but I was like, all right, well, still.
Detroit should get it. Detroit was just horrific this year for anyone who isn't a hockey fan.
Just a horrible season. They needed that first overall pick.
It's going to be this kid, Lafreniere, from the Quebec Junior League. I might be saying his name wrong, but he's sick.
So I was watching, figuring Detroit would get it. They got the best odds.
And if not, it's another team that isn't playing anymore. And what do you know? The number one place card is just an NHL symbol.
It's like, hold on. We dragged you guys all in for this big lottery show.
Now we got to make sure we just wait a couple more months until we see who gets knocked out from the play-in fake round in the Corona Cup. So it's like, what else could happen? It just makes total sense.
So the one thing I was confused about was that I texted the Spittin' Chicklets group. I said, so can a team who wins the Stanley Cup get first overall? And RA was trying to explain it to me, making zero sense.
But he ended up saying the Rangers are the only team who could realistically win the Cup and get the first overall pick. But it's crazy, crazy odd that that would happen.
But with law, so you never know.

Maybe the Rangers do pull this out.

Everyone's saying it's rigged.

They put Connor McDavid in Edmonton.

There's no chance it's rigged.

Yeah, do they do the frozen envelope?

Have there been conspiracies?

Or I guess it would be like a warm envelope for a hockey guy.

But has there been ever any accusation of this type of thing

surrounding the NHL like it did with David Stern?

There was a lot of talk around Sidney Crosby in terms of Pittsburgh Penguins. They were going to move to Kansas City.
Mario Lemieux's team was gone all of a sudden. After a lockout, they get the number one pick, Sidney Crosby.
I got to be rookies with him, and the rest of the story, right? I didn't know that you played with Sidney Crosby. You never bring that up all the time.
Yeah, I got to play with them. I don't know.
I never mentioned that on this show.

I didn't want to be one of those people who brags,

but I did play with them.

And that was an instance where you could say,

was this thing rigged?

Pittsburgh's given the next greatest player of all time.

So we'll see.

I just feel bad for Detroit Red Wings fans.

I love the Red Wings.

They would see my team growing up.

So I do feel bad for them.

So if they play, give us the team you think is going to win and maybe a dark horse team. Okay, okay.
I've said all year that I like Tampa just because of what they went through last year and then bouncing back and kind of starting off slow and just really picking things up before all this hit. Now, that means nothing now.
But I just refuse to believe a team that good isn't going to win a Stanley Cup at some point in these few years. So I'm just going to keep taking them every year.
You know how that works. And a dark horse team, a dark horse team I like.
Man, that's a tough one. Let me try to think of a team who got in and they shouldn't have if it wasn't for the Corona Cup.
Let's go to Blackhawks. Blackhawks, yep.
I knew you were going to say it. They got the pedigree.
Yep. They got the pedigree.
Pedigree is such a good idea. I love that explanation.
They won in the past. Corey Crawford, you get hot.
You get a little momentum. You don't have to go on the road.
I actually think, correct me if this is way off, but I actually do think the first round, there will be a benefit to playing in that first round playoff hockey five-game series. And they're going to jump on some of those higher seeds that don't fully have that do-or-die mentality yet because they've been just skating around playing the seeding games that don't really matter when there's not as much at stake.
much at stake. I know.
And they don't. And these games mean so much more to the teams and like to move on as opposed to the teams to figure out the seeding.
It's such a, I mean, it's a clown show. I'm not sure for them.
This had to be done. You had to figure out something.
They're doing the best they can, but it is a clown show. Yeah.
And so the other team, maybe, maybe I'm thinking, so I'm thinking of weird scenarios and hot goaltending.

You bring up Crawford.

Carey Price, best goalie in the world.

Wouldn't it be fitting if Montreal sneaks in

and somehow wins the Stanley Cup or the Corona Cup?

Excuse me.

Who knows?

Asterix.

That could happen.

Yes.

So we gave our list of teams in Major League Baseball

where if they win the World Series, who gets an asterix

and who doesn't ahead of time?

I'm going to say right now, if a Canadian team wins the Stanley Cup, it gets an asterisk. Yeah.
If it's an American team, we earn that shit. Yeah.
It's been about 27 years since the Canadian team won the Cup. So where are they going to play? Have they figured that out yet? I know they've narrowed the list down to, what, four or five different cities? I've been told East is going to Vegas.
Makes sense. And then the West is deciding.
I think Edmonton's up. They're making a push forward.
Chicago's actually a possible destination. I don't really know exactly what's going to go down, but I've been told the East is for certain in Vegas.
So those guys are probably fired up. Yeah.
They should kill two birds with one stone in the West, have it at an awesome venue that already doesn't have any fans there, just send them to Mystery Alaska and have the West play like pond hockey. Is it even frozen up there still? I don't know.
I don't know with global warming. You never know.
Very true. You never know with all this water melting everywhere.
What do you – The water's already melted. Yeah, the globe is turning a bit soupy.
What are you going to do? My last question is, what are you going to do if they're back, they're playing hockey, there's going to be some day hockey, and it's Ryan Whitney has to decide whether he's going to play 18 holes or watch hockey because that's kind of your job. Oh, no, I'm playing.
I'm playing golf. And, you know, later I catch up on the DVR, the new DVR system that is put in some certain cable boxes.
And then we record checklists at night. So, no, I mean, I got about a five-month golf season in Boston, Massachusetts, so I'm playing golf.
Those day games will have to get my eyeballs later when I can fast forward through the boring parts. Congrats on not saying TiVo.
I would have thought for sure that Ryan Whitney would be a guy that just uses the word TiVo instead of DVR. You think I'm a TiVo guy? I played with Crosby.
You think I'm a TiVo guy? Yeah. A TiVo guy's RA.
A bit. Are you going to be on NHL Network? Am I going to have to look at your ugly mug every night? No, no.
I'm done there. I'm done there.
I'm full-time Barstool boys. Welcome.
Love it. I guess I could say love it thanks for the welcome love it love it um hank you got any questions for for your cy mass guy no but i was home last weekend and i was wearing a barstool shirt and uh i was in the liquor store and the guy was like oh barstool like pink whitney this shit sells like crazy i was like yeah guys from situate he's like, yeah.
He's like, wow. Yeah, fucking 02066.

How does he not know Ryan Whitney?

I don't know.

He was just like, oh, he's like, Barstool.

He's like, everything Barstool sells goes crazy, like Nooners and Pink Whitney.

I was like, yeah, probably because it's him.

How mad is Biz that he didn't get his face on a bottle and it's you?

He doesn't give a shit.

He's making the same amount of money I am.

Okay, that's fair.

Well, your face isn't.

Is that your face?

Yeah, it's his face.

I don't even think my wife would have married me I also That was an all time joke that you made on biz Yeah it's the chicklets logo My apologies I thought it was for some reason My enormous ears My ears wouldn't fit on the goddamn bottle That'd be great though That would be the mark of when you've finally had enough Pink Whitney Once Ryan Whitney looks attractive on the label Then you've had enough It. It's time to put the bottle down.
Also inspired by you. Once you give that guy above a six on the bottle, it's time to stop drinking.
Also inspired by you, Whit, I have been developing a drink of my own called the – it's vodka and V8 splash, and I call it the Red Henry. Ooh.
I like that. Okay, isn't that just kind of like, what's that drink people drink in the morning that's terrible? Mimosa.
Bloody Mary? No. No.
Bloody Mary. Isn't that just a Bloody Mary? No.
Bloody Mary is like Bloody Mary mix. This is just V8 Splash.
No, not V8. You're thinking V8 Juice.
V8 Splash is like Kool-Aid type drink. Oh, okay.
Okay, I was thinking V8 Hey, Hank, I'll crush a Red Henry. Yep.
I like it. You just invented juice and vodka together.
Yeah, it's a pretty thick mix. I mean, I don't think anyone's ever had one.
That's true. No one had ever had pink lemonade vodka, so it's incredible.
Thanks to New Amsterdam for listening to me, finally., absolutely. All right, well, Whit, thank you as always.

We appreciate it.

Hopefully we will talk some hockey when hockey does come back.

But thank you for joining us. Yeah, I'd love to come back on when there's actual sports going on.

So love you guys very much.

Yeah, it only took me three days.

You just completely ignored my first text.

Yeah, sorry.

I'm a real bad text guy.

Ask anyone.

I mean, you're famous as shit.

Sometimes we've got to keep you in check.

Alright, thanks man. Talk to you later.

Thanks for it. Hey, guys.

Hockey is on.

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OK, let's get some segments. We got a PR one on one for the Mississippi.
State of Mississippi has finally voted to get rid of the Confederate portion of their flag, which is crazy that that still existed in 2020, but good on them for getting rid of it. it did it is kind of shows how

it works in the south

when the SEC says they aren't going to do

any championship events in the state of Mississippi, and that basically changes everything. And they start losing recruits and players because of it.
The SEC talks, then people listen. Yeah, when it affects college football, then change happens.
You know what they should do? They should impose a billionaire's tax on the richest people in Mississippi and say that, okay, we'll increase this tax, but 33% of the revenue generated is going to go to hire new coaches. So it'll be a direct impact on the system, on your favorite team.
Right. So now we have to redesign the Mississippi State flag.
I know Billy was thinking the other day with Kyle Long, why not bring back the Union battle flag? Nobody reps the North. The winners.
Winners only. Yeah, a banner.
Just have a championship banner. How about we have our friend Brandon Walker? He just becomes the flag.
Okay. It's his face.
Yeah, I was saying like DK Metcalf taking a piss on the field. Also good.
That would be sick. Also good.
The flag has nothing but straight lines on it. Yep.
Also good. Let's see.
Maybe, what if it was just, it's like subtraction by addition, and you keep the Confederate flag on there, but then you put a circle with a line through it on top of it. Mm-hmm.
To say no. I like that.
I like that. Or just write sucks next to it.
Or just maybe just have the word Mississippi on there because Mississippi's always kind of cool to read. Yeah.
M-I crooked letter, crooked letter I. Yeah, with the M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.
Yeah. That's kind of cool.
Just have that. Just have it say Mississippi.
Oh, you know what it should be? It should be if, depending on who wins the Egg Bowl that year, if it's Ole Miss or if it's Mississippi State, their logo gets to go in the upper left-hand corner of the flag for the remainder of that year. Ooh, now that would be incredible.
The Flag Bowl. That would be incredible.
I like that a lot. You just get the entire state for 365 days.
Mm-hmm. Yes.
All right. Oh, we have one more.
We have an eSports update. Dr.
Disrespect. What the hell happened? So, Dr.
Disrespect, for those that don't know, was like top three streamer. It's like Nick Merckx, him, a few other guys, but he's one of the big guys, big cash cow for Twitch.
His account just got taken off twitch on friday there was no news there was no statement they just said that they took his account down without giving any details so no one really knows what's going on uh people think he might have got arrested people think i'm of the of the thinking that there's a conspiracy theory and all the this is like the most twitch thing ever all the conspiracy theories and stuff are coming from 4chan so it's like who knows what to believe yep uh but one of them is that because the mixer stuff we talked about last week like ninja and all the big streamers from them aren't on mixer anymore that there's a rumor that spotify who obviously we know spends a shit load of money like on podcast joe rogan all that stuff they're starting a streaming gaming service and they were recruited Dr. Disrespect and all the people from Mixer and Twitch found out and shut them down.
But there's been no light. Nothing has been brought to light.
It's crazy. In today's day and age, when people get to the bottom of stuff so fast, there's still no answers.
Yeah, but just so that we're clear, what should our company line be on this this right now we want the company that's paying him to pay us okay so that we want it we want the bag allegedly yes the company that is allegedly paying dr disrespect yes our ears are open why don't why don't i start like a rival character to dr disrespect because i'm already halfway there i can't grow a sunglasses inside. Same thing.
What if I start like Professor... He's tall, you're short.
Professor politeness where I just like go around giving CPR to people in Call of Duty. You should.
Yeah, no kills. You just heal the team constantly.
That would actually be electric. I kind of like that idea.
Mr. Manners.
Is a permanent band a permanent band? Yeah, so like there was also a few weeks ago... I know that sounds really stupid to say.
No. So there was a big DCMA thing where like like like with Twitter music companies randomly went back through a bunch of people's streams and were like DCM.
So at first people thought it was just like a DCMA temporary band, but it came out like it's a perma band. All the emotes are gone.
He had partnerships with Discord. That's gone.
But it's a permanent ban, a permanent ban. Yeah.
But wait, if he... It's absolutely...
If you subscribe... No chance.
If you subscribe, you got your money back. But no chance could there ever be a world where Dr.
Disrespect comes back to Twitch. No, I think there's a chance, but like...
So it's not permanent. They gave money back.
You'd have to re-subscribe. Okay.
Okay, but so... It'd be a fresh fresh start so if he is just going to a different service why would discord also drop him right the other the other 4chan rumor is like there was some type of uh like sexual assault that went on at at a twitch con or something but that it's all it's all rumors it's all 4chan shit so it's like who knows what to believe i saw it's crazy like it's just crazy that it's crazy to me that nothing has come out officially i saw one rumor that he was cheating like he cheated on somebody that was also cheating on their spouse he cheated on his wife like last year and took like a month off from streaming but he did tweet he did tweet out uh on saturday he tweeted out on saturday that twitch hasn't given him a reason why he's been banned and like nick merks Nick Merckx, Tim the Tap Man, who are, like, arguably one, two, and three of Twitch streamers,

if they're supporting him, they probably know what's going on behind the scenes.

I feel like if it was bad, they probably wouldn't outwardly be, like, showing their support for him, you know?

Mm-hmm.

Damn.

I heard he just didn't have his doctorate, and he lied.

Oh, Billy.

Good one.

You had all weekend to come up with that, and you nailed it. That was good.
You nailed it. Were you a Dr.
Disrespect fan? No, I'm a respect guy. I remember.
Yeah, that's true. I just had no idea who he was.
People were very mad that I didn't know who he was, and I was like, I said, as a gamer, should I care? And that one guy was like, the douchiest thing you could ever do is tweet as a gamer. I was like, yeah, I know.
I know. I know.
All right, so anything else? Do we have anything else? Yeah, there's some more news that just broke, actually, about the Patriots. This is crazy.
So this is all Patriots news broadcast right now. We're fired up now.
I'm fully back in season. Yeah.
It's insane. So I just read this, and my first thought was, great, so the Patriots have Cam Newton,

and now they have a chip on their shoulder.

A huge chip.

In addition to the one that just got taken off Cam Newton's shoulders,

the NFL has handed down these penalties to the Patriots

for their television crew filming the Bengals-Browns game.

It still blows my mind that Belichick thought that he needed to get an edge

on either the Bengals or the Browns.

He didn't.

The camera crew, it was a separate outside camera crew.

The sources tell Mike Reese, $1.1 million in club fines,

loss of a 2021 third-round pick.

Oh, wow.

This is the dagger.

This is what's going to piss Belichick off.

Patriots TV crew is not allowed to shoot games during 2020 season.

Oh, shit.

Wait.

That's a lot of shit.

The last part again?

The Patriots TV crews are not allowed to shoot games during the 2020 season hmm that is i mean the the pick i don't really know what that even means it's just like they won't have to do your job yeah they can't make a documentary so this kind of sucks where hank won't be able to use the thing of saying oh this is the start of the documentary this year after a bad loss because there is no documentary about those TV crews. Right, right, right.
Okay. All right.
Well, Hank, you feeling like you're ready? I can't wait. We can also stay very woke.
You might have gotten like a top 10 quarterback just out of nowhere. You can stay very woke on this and say like Belichick's probably excited about that last point.
Yes. Like, oh, I'm not allowed to film stuff.
That's true. He's going to reinvent the way motion pictures are captured.
He's going to, yeah. You know what? You never said I couldn't draw every single flip book.
Yeah, it's going to be like VR. You have a flip book of the entire season.
360 mode VR. Yeah.
It's so true. That would be sick if Belichick invented an entirely new type of camera.
Yes. Yes.
All right. Wednesday, we have an extra long, awesome Dungeons & Dragons episode.
Some big time things happened. It was honestly one of the funniest hours of part of my take that I've been a part of.
It was ridiculous. So, yeah, it's great.

And then we're not going to be no show Friday

because we're off for the 4th of July.

So,

enjoy your 4th of July weekend.

And then the takeies on Monday, so get excited

for that. Blake of the year.
We'll see everyone Wednesday.

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