Denny Hamlin, Entourage Creator Doug Ellin, Bucs C Ryan Jensen And Dude Perfect

1h 56m

Packed Friday show and we start with Dak negotiations (2:27 - 12:31). Fyre Fest of the week takes a detour as Hank invents war movies (12:31 - 30:22). NASCAR driver Denny Hamlin joins the show to talk about his win Wednesday, the last dance and guarantees a win Sunday. Entourage creator (30:22 - 45:48) Doug Ellin joins the show to talk about the show, Hollywood, losing Emmy’s and social media (45:48 - 79:45). Bucs Center Ryan Jensen joins the show to talk about his sweaty ass and working with Tom Brady (79:45 - 92:25). Finally we wrap up the week with a review of the Dude Perfect documentary


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Speaker 3 On today's part of my take, we have a packed, packed Freya show for you. We have Denny Hamlin fresh off his win.
We have

Speaker 3 Doug Ellen, creator, writer of Entourage, Entourage,

Speaker 3 six-time Emmy loser, one-time Emmy winner. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then we have Bucks center, Ryan Jensen, who joins us to talk about how exactly Tom Brady likes his ass, how he likes

Speaker 3 his ass sweating. We also have a dude perfect documentary review, which I think is going to get contentious, judging by the tweets that were out there.
I've got some takes.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you guys are prepared for this. Varied from, I loved it, PFT seemed like he liked it, and Hank hates my guts.

Speaker 4 If you read the context of my tweet that was screen grabbed, I was saying it wasn't as bad as Florio saying a third world dictator putting out a documentary about it.

Speaker 3 Save that take. Save save that take.
Yes, uh, it was worse. Uh, and we have Fire Fest of the week.

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Speaker 3 Today is Friday, May 22nd, and Dak Prescott has just turned down a 10-year, $1 billion deal to make him the highest-paid quarterback.

Speaker 3 Until, of course, Taysom Hill signs his deal for $2 billion to make himself the highest paid quarterback.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's how it's going to go. It's just the most recent quarterback to get paid is going to be the richest quarterback to get paid.

Speaker 3 But maybe not. Because it turns out that we had all kinds of reports.
I think this is just Dak Prescott

Speaker 3 numbers season because we had the report from Chris Sims that he turned down five years, $175 million, that would have made him the highest paid quarterback.

Speaker 3 It turns out that's not true, according to other sources, that that was not discussed. And we are still sitting in Dak Prescott purgatory.

Speaker 3 I can't make, I've heard that Dak Prescott will take $40 million, nothing less than that, nothing less than 35.

Speaker 3 Like it feels like maybe he's going to take a four-year deal because he wants to wait till the renegotiation of TV rights. I don't know what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 3 All I know is that the fact that it's taken this long speaks to exactly like how the Cowboys feel about Dak Prescott. They like him.
They want him, but he's not.

Speaker 3 Well, this is not Patrick Mahomes, he's not Russell Williams. He's also signed him.

Speaker 4 It's also perfect for Jerry Jones to have the one NFL storyline that's going, that's carrying us through this offseason to be about a Cowboys quarterback because Jerry is absolutely loving every single second of this.

Speaker 4 And you're right, well, when he gets paid, next up, Pat Mahomes, how much are you going to pay Pat Mahomes?

Speaker 3 Pat Mahomes is a guaranteed whatever he wants, you just give him.

Speaker 3 That's the point: Dak Prescott falls into that category, and it happens every single year in the NFL. You throw it in like the Matthew Stafford, the

Speaker 3 Kirk Cousins. Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 Well, Russell Wilson's, you just give him money. I'm talking about the guys that everything's got to be right around them.

Speaker 3 So you say to yourself, we have to sign him because he looks like a franchise quarterback, but we're going to hesitate a little bit.

Speaker 3 Should we really sign him for this much? And eventually someone's going to say, no, actually, this guy isn't all the way. Like, let's throw everything at him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think that's going to be be Jerry Jones because I think Jerry Jones, just like saying, I got me a quarterback. And when he can say that, then he feels good about the job that he's done.

Speaker 4 But I saw a report that says Dak wants a shorter deal. Cowboys want a longer one.

Speaker 3 I think the negotiations are going to be a good thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I honestly think that this is all being leaked from Jerry Jones' side. I haven't really seen anything that's been leaked that

Speaker 4 makes Dak look favorable in this situation.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's definitely like, hey, he's turning down how much. And again,

Speaker 3 I think Dak Prescott is a very good quarterback, but he is that guy who, if he were a Patrick Mahomes, if he were Russell Wilson, if he were Aaron Rodgers, Tom, like these guys, you're like, okay,

Speaker 3 it's a no-doubter.

Speaker 3 It would already have happened. Right.
I agree with that 100%.

Speaker 4 He's like a Jimmy Garoppolo type situation where you see a guy like that get paid and you're like, do I want to pay somebody that's not like a top three quarterback in the league backbreaking money when you've got so much money committed to other guys?

Speaker 4 Right. So they just do, just do like what they do at used car dealerships, where it's like last person with their hand on the star between Dak and Jerry gets the contract that they want.

Speaker 3 That's their arbitration. I have a question for you, PFT.
If

Speaker 3 let's say, so Dak, 100% of Dak Prescott, how much of that is Andy Dalton?

Speaker 3 Because that's the interesting part. You mean how far

Speaker 3 Andy Dalton, 80% of Dak Prescott?

Speaker 4 If you were to put Andy Dalton inside Dak like a Russian nesting doll, how much would he fill up?

Speaker 3 Correct. He is

Speaker 4 at his peak. At Andy Dalton's peak powers right now, I would say he's probably

Speaker 4 75, 70%.

Speaker 3 He might be

Speaker 3 80% might be where I would put it just because Andy Dalton is the type of guy that, with talent around him in the right situation, which the Cowboys have a ton of offensive talent, why not?

Speaker 3 They'd have a good running game. Andy's CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper.

Speaker 3 Andy Dalton is a

Speaker 3 fine player for that situation.

Speaker 3 The problem is now the Cowboys, if they wanted to go that route, they should have used the money they would have saved on not signing Dak in free agency and used it for other things. Yes.
Right.

Speaker 4 Just agree. Just stocked up on Dalton.

Speaker 3 But it does add a little Andy Dalton's. Andy Dalton does add a little interesting dynamic where he isn't bad.

Speaker 4 He's never been beaten up on spring break.

Speaker 3 He's not good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's not bad. Dak should have asked for IP.
Yeah. If you give me IP to the caller Daky.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let me have the Cowboys star. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you give me the star,

Speaker 4 I'll sign this contract today.

Speaker 3 Right now.

Speaker 3 Schrodinger's Dak. That is.

Speaker 4 That was a heat check. That was a heat check.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Caller Dackie was great. Schrodinger's great.
Not so much. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It is really the only story. There's basically three stories going on right now in the NFL.
It's that. It is Tom Brady's

Speaker 3 how he likes his center's ass sweat, which we'll get to with Ryan Ryan Jensen. And then every three days, someone declaring that Taysom Hill is the greatest quarterback in the world.

Speaker 4 That's all we got. That's all we got right now.

Speaker 4 Well, it's declaring, it's like putting Taysom Hill on the same level as another superstar quarterback.

Speaker 3 And then having everyone.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 there was one tweet that said Taysom Hill could be like a bigger version. Or no, it came from Jay Glazer, I think, saying that Sean Payton views Taysom Hill as a bigger version of Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 Right. In the fact that he does a lot of things and is physically bigger.

Speaker 4 And then since we are so we're fucking starved for any sort of thing to argue about, and we see that, and we're like, okay, this is the thing that we're going to get mad about online today.

Speaker 4 I would go out on a limb and say that I think Lamar Jackson might be better at playing most of the same positions that Taysom Hill plays.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I haven't. We've seen Taysom Hill come into a game and be part of...
not a gimmick offense, but it's a different offense. And I still don't understand.

Speaker 3 I know everyone will say, well, Teddy Bridgewater is more like Drew Brees and Taysom Hill's like Drew Brees and Jameis Winston is getting paid nothing.

Speaker 3 But if Taysom Hill was truly, truly a franchise quarterback, he would just be the backup. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, he would. He would have started.
Or he would have started. He would have at least started some games last year.
Although, there's something about Sean Payton, and I kind of like it.

Speaker 4 He's a little bit crazy. He's nuts.
He likes to get his players paid.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 he's paying.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but no, he got... Teddy Bridgewater paid.

Speaker 3 Right, but he wants to pay Taysom Hill right now.

Speaker 4 He loves to have the reputation of being a coach where he can bring somebody in, and then you'll get paid in the future if you just do what he wants for like a year or two. Sean loves that.

Speaker 4 He did the same thing with John Coon, where he brought John Coon in and would like sign him and cut him every other week. And then he had like some sweet

Speaker 4 relationships set up where he was like, In the future, if you just come and play with me for another year, you can do anything you want for the Saints.

Speaker 4 If it's being a coach, if it's doing the same type of thing where I cut you again and sign you again every week next year.

Speaker 4 Like, I know for a fact that Sean Payton loves just the reputation of players wanting to go to New Orleans to get paid in the future.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, they are paying him now, the $21 million over two years, $16 million guaranteed.

Speaker 3 I don't doubt that Sean Payton loves Taysom Hill. I just, I got to see it

Speaker 3 consistently for a season before I say he's a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 4 Well, I've never seen

Speaker 4 Lamar Jackson be a personal punt protector. I've never seen him return a kick.
So there are certain things that Taysom can do.

Speaker 3 Troy Aikman's never said Lamar Jackson's the best player on the field for a playoff game.

Speaker 4 That's true. Lamar Jackson is a leatherman that they ended up losing.
Taysom Hill is a Swiss Army knife. He's got a few more tricks, but not quite as sharp.

Speaker 3 It is interesting, too, because

Speaker 3 I could be convinced, like Taysom Hill in that playoff game against the Vikings, he was

Speaker 3 electric. And

Speaker 3 I mean, Drew Brees is going to play forever. And I think they'll just let Drew Brees play forever.

Speaker 4 The thing about Taysom Hill is

Speaker 4 there's a low expectations bar for him when he gets in.

Speaker 4 And so when he throws a good downfield pass, and I think he threw a total of like five passes past five or 10 yards last year, when he throws one deep and it actually connects, it's like, it's a holy shit moment.

Speaker 4 Right. Everyone gets excited by it.

Speaker 4 It's like a pass that you would expect a great quarterback.

Speaker 3 Just run the Wildcat with Taysom Hill.

Speaker 4 Do it.

Speaker 3 All right, so that's pretty much the news. The only other news I saw was Jim Harbaugh

Speaker 3 is trying to save football, which we all expected, but he said he absolutely has no problem playing with no fans because he's like, what's the alternative? No football?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he probably actually liked playing football with no fans even more.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so

Speaker 3 he's strongly in the camp of let's just play. Doesn't matter how.
And I have to agree with that. Let's just play.
Doesn't matter how.

Speaker 3 So Jim Harbaugh at the forefront, thank you for your service, coach.

Speaker 4 Just roll the ball out there. It doesn't matter if there are fans in the stands.
It doesn't matter if the games are televised.

Speaker 4 If there's a football game going on, Jim Harbaugh will be there to coach it. Absolutely.
And probably put himself in at quarterback if he needs to.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. All right.
So before we get to our interviews, we got three really great ones coming up.

Speaker 3 Fire Fest of the Week. Fire Fest of the Week.
Henry?

Speaker 4 I just realized I would love to see Jim Harbaugh try to figure out Zoom calls for recruiting.

Speaker 3 He definitely is. He's got a guy now.
He sits down.

Speaker 3 He just sits down. It's on.

Speaker 4 He just opens up. He's like, Excel is not letting me see the other guy's face.
Right. Can I open up Zoom inside of Excel?

Speaker 3 He does a whole Zoom where it's just facing like his chest. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hank, Firefest. Did you see this? Isn't my Firefest, but do you guys see Chris Pratt had a Firefest of his own? He deleted like 50,000 emails by accident.

Speaker 3 Why is that bad?

Speaker 3 I don't know. Wouldn't that give you anxiety? Is he doing server management for Hillary Clinton?

Speaker 3 Damn.

Speaker 3 You don't think,

Speaker 3 like, big, your email, like, I'm sure it has how many thousand emails? A lot. So if accidentally you deleted them all, wouldn't you be like, oh, fuck, there's so much shit in there I need it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 4 I'd probably be psyched if I did. Let me just take a look at my email account.
I've got 11,672 in this one.

Speaker 3 I've got 13,000.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I guess it would cause a little anxiety, but it also would probably be liberating.

Speaker 4 And then in my other one, I've got...

Speaker 3 But you would, it's a fire fest. Why can't you just get it back? I don't know.
The cloud?

Speaker 3 I don't think that's how it works. I think that's exactly how it works.
I don't think that's how it works. You just call up the cloud and, like, give them back.
And they're like, sure thing, Mr.

Speaker 3 Pratt. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 So if you're a celebrity, you can get anything back.

Speaker 3 What's your Fire Fest? Think Chris Pratt lost all his emails? No, my Fire Fest, I just, it's, it's, you you know i i feel

Speaker 3 all my fire fests are always video game related but this is the one i couldn't say last week uh i got invited to be in a call of duty tournament like through the official call of duty like league optic gaming and they it was presented to me that it's going to be three influencer three pro players one influencer per team and as i was getting set up you were the influencer yes wow and as as so as i'm getting set up like the technical guy is going through like setting up my computer whatever and i'm like who are the other like influencer people so i can size myself up against them like how, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, how good do I have to be compared to them? And he was like, actually,

Speaker 3 you're the only one. Like, all the other teams decided to just go with four pros.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah,

Speaker 3 it was a tough, like, my team hated me. How much better are the pros?

Speaker 3 A million times better. It's one of those things where I didn't understand it.
I will be honest. Like, I didn't understand the Twitch.
I didn't understand video games.

Speaker 3 I would see video editors here, like, watching Twitch streams. And back of my head, I'd be like, why are you watching someone play video games? But it truly is.
Like, there's

Speaker 3 you playing basketball, and then there's you watch a pro play basketball. Yeah, it's like me and LeBron James.
They can do a million different things.

Speaker 3 It's the same game, but they're just playing 10 times faster, 10 times better, 10 times, or probably 100 times more accurate. It's just a completely different level.

Speaker 3 And it makes sense now to me that people watch it because it's like you're watching greatness. Like these guys, it's the same game that you and I play.

Speaker 3 They just play so much better, so much faster, so much more entertaining.

Speaker 4 So is there a way for you as like the obvious weak link in this team to like hide out?

Speaker 3 Yes. Are there places that you can just chill?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was basically just hiding the entire time just trying trying like i knew eventually it was gonna i was gonna look like an idiot and get killed but i was just trying to like prolong that as long as possible and it probably sucks too knowing that like the one ped you can do for video games is adderall and you actually need that desperately for your adh and when i take it i don't even take it when i game anymore because it gives me severe anxiety like i get too

Speaker 3 like i i'm prescribed it and when i take it i'm like i'm gonna take it to focus but that's where the gay size come in and that's where like my heart beats too fast like my heart rate goes too fast fast on it, so I have to like not take it.

Speaker 3 It'd be like someone having low T and having to take steroids to just get their T to a normal level and then going up against like muscle men.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Right.
Against Jose Kinseka. Right.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So yeah, that was my firefest.

Speaker 4 Hey, did you kill anybody?

Speaker 3 Tune in. I'm not allowed to say the results.
It's airing

Speaker 3 the results. So it was cool.
They basically filmed it. It's going to be like put together and it's going to air.
There's official Call of Duty League, which I'm sure you guys are up to speed on.

Speaker 3 Of course. And this is going to be like the preview game.

Speaker 3 They're going to show the whole game.

Speaker 4 Did you sign an NDA?

Speaker 3 I did. And this is the other thing.
This is the other thing that I. I broke your NDA by telling you.
Well, no, I didn't sign NDA. I said I wouldn't reveal the results.
Oh, that's the NDA.

Speaker 3 I signed a release form for Boner Dogs because there's a Boner Dogs poster in the background of my Twitch stream, which I think makes Boner Dogs an official movie. They're like,

Speaker 3 sign away Boner Dogs? No, no, no.

Speaker 3 They were like,

Speaker 3 we're not going to be able to use your video because there's that movie poster in the background. I'm like, no, that's our movie poster.
Like, that's mine.

Speaker 4 And the movie doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 And then they were like,

Speaker 3 all right, can you, no, they're like, can you just, like,

Speaker 4 consent to use it?

Speaker 3 Like, saying, like, they thought it was a real movie and a real movie company would sue them for having it in the background. I'm like, no, actually.

Speaker 3 You shouldn't have signed. We should have sued them.
And that would have been the fucking budget for the movie, dummy. No, but I think it's one of those things where

Speaker 3 I think we're now a real movie.

Speaker 4 The eyes of Twitch are Call of Duty. Boner Dogs is a legit movie.
It's canon, yeah.

Speaker 4 This actually might be a good way because there are a lot of video games that have been successes that have started, or movies that have started out as video games.

Speaker 4 And the kids get into it and they're like, oh, let's turn this into a movie.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 4 Mortal Kombat, boom.

Speaker 3 Pixels? Yeah, it was a movie. That was a movie.

Speaker 4 It was a movie. Smash hit.

Speaker 3 I never saw that movie.

Speaker 4 It was Smash. They were on an island.
It was Dana White's inspiration for the UFC.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 There was Sonic the Hedgehog. Great movie.

Speaker 3 Yeah, gonna be a great movie.

Speaker 4 I think it's already out.

Speaker 3 Oh, it was

Speaker 3 a great movie. It's a great movie.

Speaker 3 Great movie. James Bond.

Speaker 3 Started out as Golden.

Speaker 3 Yep. And then they made a movie out of it.

Speaker 3 They made a lot of movies out there. We should do a flush more of games that they should make into movies.
That'd be a good one. Ooh.
The Crash Bandicoot, the movie.

Speaker 4 The worst games that they could make into movies?

Speaker 3 Or best games. I think there's a lot of other ones you.

Speaker 3 Call of Duty. I'm surprised there has never been a Call of Duty movie, to be perfectly honest.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 a million war movies.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, literally a million war movies.

Speaker 3 I know, but there's not like a Call of Duty branded. I don't know.
What do you mean? Like.

Speaker 3 Like Zeodark 30? That was a movie about Call of Duty. The longest day.
Yeah. Call of Ryan.

Speaker 3 Save Private Ryan. Call of Duty.
Fuck off. The Hurt Locker.

Speaker 4 Call of Duty.

Speaker 3 Apocalypse Snaps. Call of Duty.

Speaker 3 Haji invented the genre of war movies. That's awesome.
I'm not explaining. I'm not explaining what I mean.
Braveheart, Call of Duty.

Speaker 3 That's not.

Speaker 4 Johnny Tremaine.

Speaker 3 You're on something, dude. I think people would watch a war movie.

Speaker 3 That is not what I meant. They should make a twisting movie.

Speaker 4 Okay, no, what Hank's saying is make a war movie,

Speaker 4 but make it more like a video game where it's like all one shot that lasts for a long time.

Speaker 3 Oh, maybe World War I? World War I. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We should do that. We could probably win an Oscar.

Speaker 4 Call of Duty, the year 1917.

Speaker 3 Good. I like it, Hank.

Speaker 3 Smart thinking.

Speaker 3 All right, PFT, what's your firefight?

Speaker 4 I mean, there is something to be said for someone who invents something that's a success but didn't know that he was already inventing that.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, you get credit, brainstorm. You get partial credit for inventing something.
That's not what I meant. And when you see what I meant, you're all going to wish you were on board.
Okay.

Speaker 4 My firefest

Speaker 4 is that news websites have started to exploit the ratio. And they're starting to do like alley-oop jokes on Twitter.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you noticed that recently, but when companies are tweeting out like an article that they just wrote, they're phrasing their tweets tweets in such a way that they know they're going to get replied to and a shitload of quote tweets.

Speaker 4 They're gaming the system.

Speaker 4 So the other day there was a Matt Lauer op-ed that came out and the title was something like Matt Lauer opinion, not enough fact-checking is being done on sexual assault victims and sexual assault accusations.

Speaker 4 And it's just expecting people to quote tweet it with something like slug reports that there's too much salt being sold in America or something like that I'm saying like the sun will rise.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 4 It's like Ali Oop jokes. There was one yesterday that said time, scientists discover that time is moving backwards in an alternate universe.
And just it's just easy setups for jokes.

Speaker 4 And my Firefest is not taking bait on an extremely easy setup for a joke because that's like my wheelhouse.

Speaker 3 I don't want you.

Speaker 4 Because it's too easy. Because the joke is already in everyone's head.

Speaker 3 Who cares? Just fucking do it. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 I'm fighting.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking about it too much.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 4 Like, they are so far into my head.

Speaker 3 Yeah, maybe sit this way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm sitting them out. So, like, I'm going to let the masses have the easy alley oops.
Sit it out. And I'll challenge myself.

Speaker 3 Sit that out. Okay.
Yeah, Twitter has become.

Speaker 4 Twitter sucks now. It really does.

Speaker 3 Well, it's just everything is.

Speaker 3 I think we talked about it last week with like the pick three guys or what is it? First thing that comes to your thought

Speaker 3 to your brain when you see this picture.

Speaker 4 It's

Speaker 3 just bad. It's bad.
The new meme. Verbal memes.
Do one. Let's hear something.
Oh, me,

Speaker 3 my plans for this year, and it's me looking like it's Buffcat, and then it's 2020. Ooh.
And it's like,

Speaker 3 you know, standing outside the Mac championship cat. That's it.

Speaker 4 Here's one. Wow, nailed it.

Speaker 4 My internet streaming when I'm watching porn, and it's DK Metcalf running the 40-yard dash. My internet streaming when I'm trying to go on Twitch.

Speaker 3 Wait, that's not the meme.

Speaker 4 No, listen.

Speaker 3 Okay. Sorry.
Sorry. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 This is a different meme, hey? Okay.

Speaker 4 You asked me to do a verbal meme. I'm executing on that.
My internet speed when I'm watching porn. On the left, DK Metcalf running a 40-yard dash.

Speaker 4 My internet stream when I'm on Twitch trying to play Mario Kart and it's DK Metcalf doing a three-cone drill.

Speaker 3 Boom. Got it.
Memed.

Speaker 3 The two hands clasping each other.

Speaker 3 Introverts and

Speaker 3 global pandemic. And then it says staying inside.

Speaker 4 Boom. That's actually

Speaker 4 huge numbers.

Speaker 3 Seven weeks old, I think. Oh, I'm sorry that we're there.
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.

Speaker 3 No problem.

Speaker 4 No worries. I thought that was a good one.

Speaker 3 I felt good. Okay.
I guess not.

Speaker 4 My reading comprehension, DK Metcalf doing a 40-yard dash. Hank's reading comprehension.
Darren Revelle running those 20 yards.

Speaker 3 See, I have good reading comprehension. It's just

Speaker 3 sometimes when it goes from my brain out to my mouth, things get lost in translation. Hank's the boyfriend holding onto the girlfriend's hand looking back, and

Speaker 3 he's holding on to the hand of

Speaker 3 the girlfriend says, saving Private Ryan, and he's looking back and it says, we should make Call of Duty a movie.

Speaker 3 This is not, that is not what I meant. That is not what I meant at all.
This is going to be like, oh, whatever. Whatever.
Whatever. All right.
My Fire Fest is similar.

Speaker 3 Well, not the same as Hank's, but similar in that it's video game related. I just have like tremendous anxiety now because I just have anxiety.

Speaker 3 It's like real sports are back in my own brain where I get anxiety before everybody. Do you feel bad for making fun of coaches and all this stuff now, knowing like some of the strongest?

Speaker 3 Oh, I mean, I do love the people who are like, you can never criticize Andy Reid again. It's like, yeah, I can.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I can. Because that's what fans do.

Speaker 4 Actually, if you play enough, you will get better at clock management. You just need the reps.

Speaker 4 The thing about Andy Reid is he's been doing this for 35 years. Right.
You've been doing it for like a month.

Speaker 3 I'm also the reverse, Andy Reid. Andy Reid burns his timeouts like they're going out of style.

Speaker 3 My problem is I like to save my timeouts until there's like I have my perfect situation is three timeouts with 18 seconds left. There you go.

Speaker 3 You can run.

Speaker 3 I have no problems here. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, just save, save, save. But yeah, it's,

Speaker 3 and I also am now in SEC Waters, and I think that like if you. Well, you haven't told the people.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm on. As of Monday, I thought you were staying at Texas Tech.
I was close to.

Speaker 3 I took the job at Tennessee, and I'm in SEC Waters now. So I think my first big SEC loss, I'm going to, like, people will call for my head.
What is the schedule?

Speaker 4 We need to check out the Tennessee message boards because those things are lit even when things are going well, which is like the first two weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 Yes. Sunday night is going to be Sunday night.
So, oh, let's talk about the schedule for next week, too. So, Sunday night, I'm going to play Florida.
But next week, we have a

Speaker 3 day game on Friday.

Speaker 3 So, if you're listening to this right now, it's 3 o'clock today uh so next week we are going to do a show on tuesday and a show on friday so no monday because so memorial episode two episodes next week we have a tuesday show we have a friday show uh yeah There's not a lot to talk about, but we have some awesome interviews coming up.

Speaker 3 We do.

Speaker 3 And it's a holiday weekend. People forget that.

Speaker 3 We've contacted Tim Woods. Hopefully, Tuesday show, we will be back in the Dungeons and Dragons realm for that.
I'm very excited.

Speaker 4 Awesome. Very excited.
Have you discovered or figured out what you're going to do to have a uniquely heartbreaking loss to Florida?

Speaker 3 No, I think I'm pretty up for the challenge of just fucking myself over at random times.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, that's a big game for Tennessee alum. It's like they need to find a way to lose it that they haven't seen before.
Right.

Speaker 3 My favorite part of Twitch is the woke Twitch that's like, I'll throw an interception. They'll be like, he did that on purpose.
Like, I wish I did that on purpose, dude.

Speaker 3 My brain just stops moving at given times, and that happens.

Speaker 4 Have you considered using a fullback in your offense?

Speaker 3 I have used fullback dive on the goal line.

Speaker 4 Okay, I like it. I like it.
I got asked by Lorenzo, he was like, I saw what Big Cat's doing on the Coach Doug stream. He was like, How come he's not using a fullback?

Speaker 4 And I was like, I think that the fullback brand doesn't want to be associated with Coach Doug's for Verts offense.

Speaker 3 Well, it's yeah, it's air raid. Yeah, I have two running backs.
I have Rico Burgerton, who's electric, and JoJo Smalls, who's also electric. Is he big? Jojo Smalls is small.
Rico Burgerton.

Speaker 4 Gotcha. Yeah, Thunder and Lightning.

Speaker 3 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 Yes. But I do use a fullback from time to time.

Speaker 3 I'm eventually going to use, like, do a full triple option offense. Okay, because I think that would be awesome.

Speaker 4 But that's going to be Fumble City.

Speaker 3 What are you going to do? You're going to Fumble City. You're going to be able to do that.
I can't fumble at Toledo. Oh, no.
At Toledo, what would you do? No, I saw you play at Toledo.

Speaker 3 At Toledo, I would do it, and like

Speaker 3 one out of ten times, I would do a pitch and they would just pick it off. Yeah, yeah.
Or you're going to fumble it. You're running a rugby offense right right whatever we'll

Speaker 3 we got enough time we got enough time oh sports are coming back in july i guarantee it well they are yeah a hundred percent yes they're coming back they're coming back in july clip that no they are coming back at some point in july yeah

Speaker 4 matter of fact july one of the longest months it has 31 days there it is it's one of it's tied for the longest month and the fact that we're in the northern hemisphere there's more daylight so it is literally the longest month of daylight that we have so suck on that hank Fact check.

Speaker 3 You're almost, I feel like you're not rooting for sports to come back.

Speaker 4 One Pinocchio on that fact check.

Speaker 3 You're just hoping sports never come back so you can work on your Call of Duty movie.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interviews. We have Denny Hamlin up first.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here he is, Denny Hamlin.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very good friend, recurring guest, and the best driver in all of NASCAR.

Speaker 3 yeah i said it it is denny hamlin he won wednesday night's race at darlington his second victory of the season big race coming up on sunday at charlotte uh i guess first question is like dude are you in the zone i'm in the zone right now for sure uh you know i i count i races we won a couple of those and so Two real ones, two iRacing.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's, we got good stats right now.

Speaker 4 I like that. How many points do you get in the standings for the iRacing?

Speaker 6 Zero.

Speaker 4 That's bullshit.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but no points from us.

Speaker 3 I've been iRacing, and the farthest I've made it is three laps into a race before I crash. I saw the video.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 You're pretty intense. Your eyes, you're focused.

Speaker 3 I don't want to suck, but I just suck. So I have a newfound

Speaker 3 appreciation for what you guys do.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 6 the thing is, is in iRacing, it takes the same skill set to be good in iRacing as it does in real life, where other sports, sports, like a football player, like doesn't mean he's going to be a good Madden player, right?

Speaker 6 I mean, it's a total different skill set. You don't have to use your athletic ability where you're driving, it's the same, you're using the same controls.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 4 So, Big Cat could, in theory, be a successful coach in football, but I can't.

Speaker 3 I can't do it

Speaker 4 on NCAA.

Speaker 3 I am a successful. How's that going, by the way? It's going great.
I'm the head coach of Tennessee.

Speaker 3 You probably can't see my hat. It says feels like 98.
We're 1-0. Gonna be 2-0 when this finally comes out tomorrow morning.
So, yeah, I'm just crushing it.

Speaker 3 I think we actually are both in the zone, if we're really going to be honest here. Wow.

Speaker 6 Wow. Yeah.
Is this like Tennessee of like

Speaker 6 the 90s or like going to be?

Speaker 3 Gonna be.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It's gonna feel like it.
Gonna be.

Speaker 3 It's gonna be like that soon. Yeah.
Right after Peyton left. I'm gonna win a title.

Speaker 4 Did you get a call from MJ after you won?

Speaker 6 I didn't get a call. I got a text.
So we text back and forth and whatnot. But, you know, that track is kind of special to him because uh, that's where he went to NASCAR races when he was a kid.

Speaker 6 That's where his dad took him. Uh, he, you know, he was raised in Wilmington, that was uh, I don't know, probably an hour away.

Speaker 6 And uh, he said that you know, that's kind of where his passion grew for racing itself, was going to NASCAR. His dad always used to take him to NASCAR race every year.

Speaker 3 Did you have you talked to him at all about the last dance, or did you maybe even watch some with him?

Speaker 6 Oh, no, I didn't watch any with him, but I so oddly enough, I finished, I finished it like an hour before I had to go to Darlington to race. So like, you know,

Speaker 3 you're ready to rock right after that.

Speaker 6 Like you're trying to,

Speaker 6 you're ready to get the best out of yourself. So,

Speaker 6 I mean, it was just incredible. I mean, I know him, you know, personally and how he is and how he interacts with me and the people that he's around.

Speaker 6 But like, and you always hear about, you know, how fiery he was. But, you know, I was too young when I was watching, you the Bulls in the late 90s.
I was too young to kind of understand

Speaker 6 more about the game, right? There's just so much more than just the game that gets played.

Speaker 6 And to see all the behind-the-scenes and people talking about it, I mean, it just gives you an unbelievable appreciation for what they did.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, did you, did he, did you ask him any like questions about it, or did he say like he was happy how it turned out?

Speaker 6 We didn't really talk about it. I mean, I just, you know,

Speaker 6 to me, you know, when he told me that, you know, the story about his dad taking him to races and whatnot, no, I didn't, I didn't know the story about how close his dad, him and his dad were

Speaker 6 and the story of how his dad ended up, you know, passing away. So, I mean,

Speaker 6 it was a learning experience as much for me as it was anyone.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Do you think that by proximity, like through you, that now maybe Slowy Slogano is on MJ's list of people that he hates?

Speaker 6 Well, he don't, obviously, it didn't take much to get him motivated, right? I mean, I think he just self-motivated, made it his, self-motivated himself to bring out that next level. But

Speaker 6 yeah, I mean, listen, as

Speaker 6 a person in sports, you find fuel, right?

Speaker 6 I mean, you see, there's no question out on the racetrack, I see people that I particularly do or don't like, and I run harder to run them down and pass them because I get more satisfaction out of it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 How good has your jumper gotten in quarantine? Because you have a court in your house. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It's gotten pretty good.
I mean, it's wet right now for sure.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, you know, we're, you know, we may or may not,

Speaker 6 you know, I play a little three on three now. We're opening it back up to, you know, under 10 people, making sure we're getting the games nice and solid.
But,

Speaker 6 you know, we're, it has been tough for two months sitting at home, not being able to play. But I can tell you, got that, got the wrist going.
I got the shootaway machine feeding it back to me.

Speaker 6 I don't want to chase them rebounds.

Speaker 3 Yes, I would imagine your house is like top 10 houses to be shelter and place at because you have a full court iRacing machine. I mean, that's the best.

Speaker 6 Yeah, golf simulator. We got the bowling alley.

Speaker 3 Okay. You didn't have to do that.
You'd have to mention that.

Speaker 6 Nothing pisses me off more than hearing my kids saying, I'm bored.

Speaker 3 I'm like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 Are you kidding? Yeah, I'll search spots with them. They can come live in Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they live in a Chuck E. Cheese.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, I mean, that's the thing. Like, they'd rather be at a Chuck E.
Cheese.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I guess that's true. The pizza.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I was going to say the animatronic band, too. They're pretty good.

Speaker 4 I saw that after the race, your teammate, Kyle Bush, he apologized, and then he doubled down on his apology. He came out and said he was sorry pretty quickly to Chase Elliott.

Speaker 4 Is that weird seeing somebody like right after the race when emotions are high put their hand up and say, hey, I screwed up, my bad?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, you know, blatantly a screw-up, right? He just kind of misjudged it. He was trying to fit in the hole that kind of wasn't there at the time.

Speaker 6 He's looking at his rearview mirror instead of kind of looking right beside him and he just misjudged it. It's just, I mean, it happens.

Speaker 6 We're all fighting for inches and we're running, you know, almost 200 miles per hour. You're going to run into people.
And so it just,

Speaker 6 becomes more of a big deal when it's someone that's popular, like Chase. So, uh, that's what makes it, you know, so big is the two people that are involved in it.

Speaker 4 Has there been like a warning to Chase to not retaliate for it?

Speaker 6 No, no, I think NASCAR leaves it, it leaves it to us to kind of police that stuff. It's a self-policing sport, as they say, you know, unwritten rules.
Feel like you've been done wrong, you know,

Speaker 6 you don't need to talk about it, just handle it.

Speaker 3 How different is it uh for maybe the novice nascar fans uh with like the rules now that you don't have any qualifying you show up and what is it you have one car like can you explain that to people who might not understand how drastically different it is running these races right now yeah i mean so much of your speed is built in the race shop i would say probably 50 of it And then the other 50, you tune on it during practice on a race weekend.

Speaker 6 So that 50% is now gone.

Speaker 6 So you're relying on you know these of course every team has engineers coming up with setups and you know what to put in the car to make it faster so there's more emphasis on those guys now to get it right because you have no practice to tune it so uh there's a big emphasis on the drivers to give the crew chiefs and the team the information to make sure when they go to the racetrack you know they're ready to race right from the get-go so it's it's definitely different for sure when i saw when i saw chase giving the bird after the race was over flipping the guy off as they were driving around, it made me wonder, do you guys flip each other off when you pass each other on the track like we do when we're on the road getting around a crazy driver?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but it's a big no-no. Like,

Speaker 6 you flip me off.

Speaker 7 It is straight sin.

Speaker 6 I am sending you into the next corner. So it's just, I don't know.
It's, you know, you want to come up and talk or whatever after the race or and cuss me out. No, no problem, right?

Speaker 6 Man to man, face to face, but like just flipping the bird, you know,

Speaker 6 it's so dumb.

Speaker 3 It's so, I mean, I get it.

Speaker 6 I may have done it early in my career, but it's just like, man, that sends me off the deep end. Somebody flips me the bird.

Speaker 3 I read that you had the all-in challenge. Has that been decided who won the raffle?

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 7 Dan Snyder.

Speaker 3 No. Great.

Speaker 3 He won it? Good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was actually going to offer, so the all-in challenge was you did this with Bubba Watson. You get a golf outing at MJ's new golf course and a VIP experience at Daytona 500.
I was going to

Speaker 3 graciously offer PFT and I to be a celebrity host for this, but now I'm going to say no. No, I don't want to hang out with Dan Snyder.

Speaker 4 I would actually.

Speaker 6 So my question is. You're the celebrity host?

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes.
We would do it for you.

Speaker 4 I would like to celebrity host Dan Snyder in a boxing match against myself.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, we'll do it, though.

Speaker 3 Not anymore, but next time you have like a VIP thing where it's like you get to go play golf at MJ's golf course, we'll happily, you can throw our name in it and hopefully get more money.

Speaker 3 Love that. Yeah.
Love that.

Speaker 4 I want to back up real quick. It was a raffle.
So like Dan Snyder bought a raffle ticket and his name got

Speaker 6 away.

Speaker 4 Auction. It was an auction.

Speaker 3 How much money?

Speaker 6 $190K.

Speaker 3 Damn. Good.
That's a lot. Good for him.
Damn.

Speaker 4 It's better that you have that than buy a free agent that we don't need.

Speaker 3 Okay, well, yeah, we're in for it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm taking votes out of the gun.

Speaker 4 I don't mind that.

Speaker 3 We actually were going to go.

Speaker 3 I want to go. I want to fucking play hoops in your house, man.
Damn. Come on, man.

Speaker 3 I can't right now, but I want to.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 6 has your game gotten any better? Are you just the gun?

Speaker 3 No, I'm the same guy, and also probably worse because I haven't shot a basketball, dribbled a basketball.

Speaker 3 Not all of us us are Denny Hamlin. We don't have a court.
I mean, is it because they don't pass it to you?

Speaker 3 No, I just have not been like, I haven't been in a gym in two months. So I'm actually very looking.
I'm looking forward to the first

Speaker 3 pickup game back and seeing how long it takes each team to get to like 15 or 21. Because you know that first game when, yeah, when no one's after the summer, it's just like the worst.

Speaker 3 It's a rock fight. I'm waiting for it.

Speaker 6 And by the way, everyone's looking for an excuse to check the ball.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes.
Let's check it out. Check it out.
Check it out. Yes.
So that's going to happen. That's going to be fun.

Speaker 3 I had one last question. You've been going at our boss on social media for saying he looks pretty shitty.
I mean, this is

Speaker 3 kind of stolen valor because I've been saying that for a long time. He doesn't use sunscreen.
He's got the air clapton hair.

Speaker 3 I mean, have you guys settled the beef?

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah. We chatted it up.

Speaker 6 We did an Instagram live before the race yesterday, which, I mean, you know, he said he got tired of backing Clint, you know, because he couldn't win or something like that.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, he had me on and ended up winning. So that worked out well.
But yeah, yeah, we buried the hatchet. I just gave him a little grief because he was doing a little, you know,

Speaker 6 hey, look how good my hair is. Look how good.

Speaker 3 And I was like, well,

Speaker 7 why is he covering his face?

Speaker 3 Like, and,

Speaker 6 you know, you saw a little glimpse. He's like, man,

Speaker 6 he's got a little burn there.

Speaker 6 I think he's been up on his rooftop getting his face roasted his raw chap that told him he looked like you know tom hanks on day 1000 of castaway yep yep it's true he doesn't use suntan lotion i've been trying to tell him he looks like a catcher's mitt

Speaker 3 an old one like really beaten in yeah

Speaker 6 yeah but yeah no we got a good respect for each other we like uh we like giving each giving each other's shit every now and then but uh Yeah, he's a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 And having him at the racetracks has been a blast, seeing him taking that all all in, and it's fun, man. You got to come out.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm not a NASCAR fan. I'm a Denny Hamlin fan.

Speaker 6 All right, I can deal with that.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's pretty much like it's a binary option. Did Denny Hamlin win? No, okay, then there was no event today.

Speaker 4 We got two. It's we like Denny Hamlin, and we like whoever is right behind Joey Logano.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 We had Joey Logano on the show.

Speaker 3 Who called him? Uh, Chase Elliott? Bush. No, Bush, Kyle Bush.
And

Speaker 3 we called the people. He actually called him.
Yeah, he called. We got him to call him.
And he, uh, he basically were like, Joey, like, uh, can we, can you unblock us? Can we squash the beef?

Speaker 3 And he's like, well, you got to stop calling me Slogano. And we're like, no deal.

Speaker 4 Stick by your guns. You got to stand for something.

Speaker 6 I appreciate you guys taking a stand.

Speaker 3 Yes. Obviously, you got to stand for something, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah. We got your back.

Speaker 7 How different are my interviews versus other guys?

Speaker 6 Like,

Speaker 6 you know, you know, is it a little more, hey, you know, straight up? And what you're doing.

Speaker 3 We don't interview other people.

Speaker 4 We respected what an asshole Bush was committed to be.

Speaker 3 Correct.

Speaker 4 So, like, the fact that he is unapologetically a dickhead, we were like, okay, we can respect that part about you, but we're still Denny guys. But

Speaker 3 we get offered NASCAR drivers and we're like, wait, that's not Denny Hamlin. No thanks.

Speaker 6 Well, I think that the, like you said, the worst thing, right, is like putting on a persona that you're one thing and then you're really not.

Speaker 6 That's, you might as well, whatever you're going to be, you're going to be a nice guy, be a nice guy. You can't, it can't be opposite, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 But yeah, we're still Denny guys.

Speaker 3 You're our guy. We really have no other guys.
So that's just how it's going to be. That's how it's always going to be.

Speaker 3 Charlotte, 6 p.m. Eastern on Fox on Sunday.
Do you want to guarantee a victory?

Speaker 3 Ooh.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 I don't know what I'll be in Vegas. Probably an eight or nine.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 6 For one type of guy.

Speaker 6 But yeah i mean

Speaker 6 yeah i'll do it man i got a new set of paint scheme we're thanking small businesses out there so yeah i i i'm in i'm in on the guarantee okay yes and you got yeah you have the new paint scheme which i'm excited for do you have a picture of that

Speaker 6 uh we do somewhere okay well we can see it on sunday it's a guarantee it's the guaranteed car yeah yeah it's the guarantee it's you know stars and stripes God bless America.

Speaker 4 Guaranteed. Love it.
It'll be the one underneath the checkered flag. Yep.

Speaker 3 Hell yes.

Speaker 3 Shout us out when you win, okay? Just be like, I told pardon my take that I was going to win this, and then I did. I'll do that.
All right. Denny, thanks so much, man.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Best of luck, and we'll be rooting for you. You're our guy.

Speaker 6 All right, guys. We'll see y'all soon.

Speaker 3 All right, see you, man. Thanks, man.
See ya.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here he is, creator of Entourage, Doug Ellen.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on very special guest. It is Doug Ellen, creator, producer, writer.
He created and wrote and produced Entourage Emmy Award winner.

Speaker 3 Is that annoying to introduce you as Emmy Award winner or do you like when people do that?

Speaker 7 Well, I like it better than when you say six times Emmy award loser because for entrage we lost a whole bunch but I actually won one for a 30 for 30 I did so I like it you know okay which 30 for 30 was it when the garden was eaten with Michael Rappaport oh okay perfect that one was great that one was great uh I mean the Knicks may never be good again so that was like the pinnacle

Speaker 7 you know I can't argue that sadly it's just it's a horrible situation we got going on there but you know they were great then so yeah yeah

Speaker 4 I'm going to start off with, it's a pretty basic question about entourage, but it's one that I've always wondered when I was watching the show.

Speaker 4 Did you ever have a hard time figuring out different ways to get the four same guys in the same room together?

Speaker 7 It was, it was honestly torture. And now, you know, as I said, Kevin Dylan and I are doing a podcast out of Kevin Connolly's company.

Speaker 7 And I'm looking back at the show now as, and I haven't watched it in years. So just kind of enjoying it.
But yeah, that was one of the hardest things to do.

Speaker 7 And whenever anybody asked me about, you know, the realistic stuff of the show, the thing I always said was the least realistic thing is that four guys would be together this often, but that was very tricky, you know, and especially when they had separate storylines going because the comedy came when those guys were together.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, absolutely. So, I'm curious: this

Speaker 3 your career, you moved out to LA, you're grinding it as a writer, as a stand-up comic. Was there a moment before Entourage happens where you're close to saying, you know what, this isn't for me.

Speaker 3 I might just give up. It's not going to work out.

Speaker 7 I mean, to be honest, there are moments before and after entourage that that's happened. But I mean,

Speaker 7 I did two independent movies that both got picked up by studios. And a lot of those experiences ended up in the show.
I did a movie for $100,000 that ended up on.

Speaker 7 screens worldwide that's still playing on showtime the reviews came out said you know this movie's unreleasable i was 22 years old then i did this movie with david schwimmer called kissing a Fool, which again was a million and a half dollar movie that Universal picked up.

Speaker 7 I was offered everything in town. I turned down everything because I wanted to do my own stuff.
And then the movie came out, which is where the line in entourage came from.

Speaker 7 Make sure you take your next job before your last one comes up. But that movie came out and didn't do business that people expected.
And honestly, I thought my career was over.

Speaker 7 After making a living in this business for over a decade, I suddenly couldn't get a job when I had a movie in theaters.

Speaker 7 So I was thinking about law school right before Entourage happens, which is pretty wild.

Speaker 3 So how did it all come together? Entourage comes together. Is it, you know, you meet Mark Wahlberg.
Can you tell that story, how it all, the genesis of it?

Speaker 7 I mean, I know Mark for years before that. Steve Levinson is Mark's manager and was my friend from college.

Speaker 7 So what happened was, you know, pretty simply, I mean, two good things happened. The movie Kissing a Fool started out.

Speaker 7 because these producers, good friends of mine, Togman, Dylan, and Andrew, they offered Mark the movie.

Speaker 7 And like an entourage scene, Steve Levinson said, the only way Mark will consider it is if Doug Ellen writes it and directs it.

Speaker 7 Now, I was nowhere and nobody, but they were like, who the fuck is Doug Ellen? But all right, we'll meet him. They hired me and obviously Mark was never going to do it.

Speaker 7 And then we went in different directions. But so I knew Mark from that point.
So entourage happened.

Speaker 7 I had pitched a bunch of TV shows around and nothing was kind of working. And I wrote a curb spec.
I just, I loved the show and I wrote an episode. I gave it to Lev, who was my manager.

Speaker 7 He read it and said, you know, Mark and I had this idea that we thought would be interesting. And he told me.
And I remember the day at Manhattan, Wanton Factories, up to him a place.

Speaker 7 I said, that's the worst idea I've ever heard. And Lev, as he often did, said, you'll figure it out.
Go home and think about it. So that's where it started.

Speaker 4 Interesting. So when you went out to LA initially, you were a stand-up comedian.
I read that you got a job in a mail room?

Speaker 7 Mailroom at New Line Cinema. And

Speaker 7 I did a short film while I was there that I did stand-up to raise the money for that.

Speaker 7 And Mike DeLuca, who was VP of New Line at the time, now is an Oscar-winning producer, gave me money out of his own pocket to do this short.

Speaker 7 Then I went to the American Film Institute and went from there.

Speaker 4 I've always wondered about those stories about the mailroom because it seems like a lot of people get starts in mailrooms of companies that they eventually want to work for.

Speaker 4 Did you ever use the mail to control the narrative? To like, you know, just slide something on somebody's desk?

Speaker 7 I honestly was there. I mean, I wish I did, but it's actually a weird story because I was in the mailroom for like less than a month.

Speaker 7 And I actually had a kind of a story where one of the VPs of New Line ran into me, spilled coffee on me when I was pushing my mailroom cart and said,

Speaker 7 screamed at me in front of the whole place. It's like, what the fuck are you doing, me with coffee on me? And I just turned and go, what the fuck are you doing? is basically what happened.

Speaker 7 And then I looked around and go, I think my career is over. Fortunately, I'd made some friends there.

Speaker 7 I go out and I make this short film with David Schwimmer and Ernie Hudson Hudson from Ghostbusters and a couple other people.

Speaker 7 And weirdly enough, a producer saw it and thought it was so good that they attached me to direct a real movie. So within that New Line Cinema was making.

Speaker 7 So within six months of being in the mailroom at New Line Cinema, I was back in Mike DeLuca's office attached to direct. I think it was the parent trap.

Speaker 7 And I was 22 years old, honestly, had no idea what I was doing, no experience at all.

Speaker 7 So I did not get that job. And then I ultimately went back to the film school.

Speaker 3 What was the moment that you knew that Entourage was going to be a hit? Because I can't remember specifically

Speaker 3 how the first season then became the second.

Speaker 3 I just remember seeing on HBO On Demand like this new show called Entourage, watching the first episode and being like, holy shit, and watch the entire first season in one afternoon.

Speaker 3 Was there that feeling of everyone being like, oh my God, this is a hit right away? Or was it delayed where you had to be like, okay, can we do another season?

Speaker 7 I mean, I'm the most negative person in the world. So, you know, the ratings were just changing then because TiVo was really coming into play.

Speaker 7 So when the ratings first came out and I knew what the sex and the city numbers were, I was like, we're done, it's over.

Speaker 7 So for the whole first season while the show was going, I was living in a bubble just trying to write and get this thing going. And I thought it was over.

Speaker 7 And it was really not until we were in Las Vegas, the second season shooting, when Jerry Ferrara walked out at the pool at the Hard Rock Hotel and a thousand meheads started screaming, turtle.

Speaker 7 And I was like, What is happening here? It felt like a setup. And we actually were trying to shoot a scene, and people were screaming, turtle, drama.
And I'm like, what the hell is happening here?

Speaker 7 So I really lived in a bubble and I didn't realize things were working until that moment.

Speaker 4 That's interesting. And then, you know, the popularity catches on, and you have a lot of fans that are celebrities, you know, people that want to appear on the show.

Speaker 4 Did you have a lot of people reaching out to you that wanted to be on the show? And you're like, man, I really don't know how to weave this person into a storyline of entourage.

Speaker 7 To be honest with you, like everything on the show, a lot of people thought there was a lot of product placement, but most of the products on the show were stuff that I used and that I loved.

Speaker 7 Same thing with the celebrities. If they reached out to me and I liked them, I figured out a way to get them in.

Speaker 7 Obviously, you get a call from LeBron, you figure it out, you know, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 7 Mark DeCeira. So, you know, I always, Tom Brady, when that, when that happened, which was the best story.

Speaker 7 But, you know, we tried to figure that out all the time because the world is really like that you know and a lot of people were like oh there's so many cameos but you know when i was going to screen the movie the first screening at mark's house i walk in and kevin durant's like sitting in a chair like it's like it's no big deal so that's kind of the lifestyle he was living and i looked at it from that perspective so what celebrity hits you up and you're like fuck off dude

Speaker 7 I you know what? I don't think I ever said fuck off, but

Speaker 7 Kevin, I got Kevin Connolly off camera here.

Speaker 3 He's laughing right now. You had to know that question was, you left yourself open for that question.

Speaker 7 I did leave myself open, but I real, I mean, it's, you know, it's a question of more of like, was anyone trouble on the set? And the truth is they were all there because they wanted to be there.

Speaker 7 So we didn't have too many problems like that.

Speaker 3 Way to way to artfully get out of that question.

Speaker 7 I'll give you the real problem. You know, the real thing, because we want to talk Boston, New York, the real biggest problem I have was Eli Manning.

Speaker 7 I mean, that was the only real celebrity problem I can come up with. Because after they won the Super Bowl that Kevin and I were at in Arizona, when they beat, who'd they beat Kev?

Speaker 7 They beat the Patriots. I know who the fuck they beat.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 they beat the Patriots and my phone rings, my cell phone rings, and it's Eli Manning. And he's like, it's my favorite show.
I want to be on it. I'm like, well, then you're on it.

Speaker 7 So now cut to six months later. The Giants are going to go on the following year.
They lose to Minnesota, I think.

Speaker 7 Eli does not call me back. I've now written a script, which is easy as people think it is, whether they like the show or not.

Speaker 7 It's not easy to figure out how to make Eli Manning entertaining and interesting. So I write the script.
I try to reach out to Eli. There's no call back.
I'm calling calling his agents, nothing.

Speaker 7 I'm getting Jerry involved. I'm like, you got to call Eli Manning and leave a message.
So, Wahlberg saved the day because he's at the office one day, and I'm losing my mind as I often did.

Speaker 7 I'm like, I don't know what to do. We're shooting in three weeks.
I don't know how to replace Eli Manning. And I think I had actually written it as Eli and Payton because his agent recommended that.

Speaker 7 So, I'm like, what are we going to do? Get the Sharp brothers. The whole thing was written as these brothers and blah, blah, blah.
So, anyway, Wahlberg comes in and he's like,

Speaker 7 What if me and Tom Brady do it?

Speaker 3 Right. I'm like, Well, that, well, that'll work, you know?

Speaker 7 So, we brought him on. And obviously, I turned a lot of New Yorkers who were pretty angry with me.
But as most people know, we had Gronk, we had Edelman, and

Speaker 7 Belichick has obviously always been a hero of mine. So now it's tough for me.
I kind of root for the pats a little bit.

Speaker 4 So the script that Mark and Tom ended up reading, that entire script was meant for Peyton and Eli?

Speaker 7 Well, I rewrote it as soon as Mark said him and Tom would do it. So, and I brought, I remember I brought Jerry and I said, Jerry,

Speaker 7 call like the angriest guy you got from Brooklyn and say, what would be the first thing you say if you saw Tom Brady? So Jerry called up his friend. I forget who it was.

Speaker 7 And I remember he's on the phone, real Brooklyn guy. And he goes, if you saw Tom Brady today, what would you say? And he said, suck my ball.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 7 basically, that's where that whole thing came from. But we got them on.
And then, you know, we got Gronk and Edelman in the movie.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, table reads are, that's the new hot thing going on right now because nobody can produce anything out in the wild.

Speaker 4 You should get Eli and Peyton to do a table read of the script that you wrote for him.

Speaker 7 You know what? It's Eli's, he's gone finally from the Giants. I can go back, I can be happy to root for the Giants again.
So, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 7 We might, I might get the guys to do it to table read or something, though. That would be fun while this is happening.

Speaker 3 When you're writing,

Speaker 3 you know, seasons in the movie Entourage, and you mentioned at the top like six-time Emmy loser, but you want an Emmy.

Speaker 3 How much of it are you

Speaker 3 cognizant of the critics? And how much are you writing it for?

Speaker 7 these are like my fans are the guys who are just watching guy relationships on a show because that's really what it boils down to you're watching it for their relationship yeah i mean look the show the show was really that's what interested me about it not the hollywood aspect of it it was friends it was like my boys in high school and how we grew up so i tried to do the best i could to make it feel like a group of guys but i the internet was just getting going then and i would look at message boards and i and i did the movie from the critical perspective, was not as well received as we all would have liked.

Speaker 7 And the world was changing a little bit. But I really took it to heart and I tried to get back to the feeling of seasons one and two.
And that. So I did both.

Speaker 7 You know, I mean, I wrote what I thought was entertaining, obviously, but I also was very collaborative with these guys.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's Kevin, who's sitting off camera here listening and judging every word I say. I mean, he would call me and tell me what his issues are, just like the other actors.

Speaker 7 So I was a pleaser to some degree, you know.

Speaker 4 Kevin, what was your biggest issue with the script when you first wrote it that you that you made him change because you're a diva?

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 no,

Speaker 7 he would say, What do you think? And I he asked me about one specific script, and I was like, Yeah.

Speaker 7 And you would have thought he flipped out, if you were on Sopranos, you'd be dead.

Speaker 3 Just killing you off. Did you think this is the Sopranos?

Speaker 7 You said that to David Chase, you'd be dead. Yeah, and Kevin said, You're not David Chase, which I accept at this point in my life.

Speaker 4 Did you ever think about killing off one of the characters?

Speaker 7 You know what? I thought about killing Vince to end the show.

Speaker 7 And, you know, Mark, honestly, Mark was so great. And Mark said from day one to me, he said, just make it good.
And that said, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to bother you.

Speaker 7 The only time Mark really sat down and was like, I got to talk to you is when I was going to kill Vince in the series finale.

Speaker 7 And by the way, that did come from some criticism I was getting. People were upset that the show got a little darker.
People wanted to see the light.

Speaker 7 I'm like, they said, oh, everything works out every two seconds. As I said, they're not going to see this coming.
And when fucking Vince is coughing, you're going to lose your fucking mind.

Speaker 7 So Mark sat me down. He goes, We're going to make a movie.
We're going to make a Broadway show. We're going to make an animated show.
You can't fucking kill Vince.

Speaker 7 So that ultimately was probably the right decision.

Speaker 4 That's good executive producing by Mark.

Speaker 7 I mean, Mark was the best. Mark was the best.

Speaker 3 So we did a Mount Flushmore, so the opposite of Mount Rushmore of TV characters. And I had a take that was pushed back on very firmly by our producer Hank, but I had a take that Vince sucks.

Speaker 3 Did you ever, because he drives the story, obviously, but the story is about the three guys around him. Did you ever feel like

Speaker 3 he was the character maybe lacking the most depth out of the four of them?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, it was deliberately done that way, you know, and it would be hard to...

Speaker 7 It was kind of hard to take a guy like Mark where the show started. A guy like Mark, he doesn't really need this crew.
So we kind of came up with a guy that would really kind of need that group.

Speaker 7 And we had discussions about it, you know, in episodes. Ari talks about whether Vince is that good of an actor.
So it's always been a debatable issue. You know, to me, the biggest thing was Medellin.

Speaker 7 I thought the Medellin trailer was amazing. And the movie Medellin was supposed to be a big hit.
But the internet, they were like, this movie looks like a fucking joke.

Speaker 7 So that's how I switched it to that movie Bomb. So things definitely did come out of what people were saying.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's fascinating. so what what is your medayen what is the like passion project that you want to do

Speaker 7 um you know i i don't know what the passion project i want to do i mean i was you know i was trying to i had a harry tubman movie i was doing long before the one that came out i had viola davis attached my daughter was in school learning about her that was a passion project that ultimately didn't happen i worked on uh i did a pilot with you know mike tyson called the brick that john ridley who won an oscar wrote in spikely directed um that I loved.

Speaker 7 Unfortunately, it didn't go forward, but we shot the pilot. It was great.
We had John Boygo playing kind of like a young Mike Tyson. But I don't know.
I'm like past the passion things at this point.

Speaker 7 You know, I'm just, you know, especially with everything that's going on. I'm trying to survive, make sure my kids are okay.
And that's pretty good enough for me right now.

Speaker 3 Gotcha.

Speaker 4 Now that you mentioned it, like that would have been so reckless if you had killed Vinny Chase. Like the entire world would have been so mad at you.
It would be hilarious.

Speaker 4 I wish that you had done that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 it would have been ugly, but it would have been good. Yeah, it would have been an interesting arc.

Speaker 3 So you mentioned it, you know, the critics in the movie. Do you, when you have a movie that gets, you know, the critics are like, oh, this is too broy or whatever they say, do you still care?

Speaker 3 Are you like, fuck that man? I'm successful. I don't give a fuck.
Do you reach that fucking money or like, you know, status?

Speaker 7 No, I mean,

Speaker 7 my money's okay, but I care. I care a lot and I'm sensitive to that stuff.
Doesn't mean I agree with it.

Speaker 7 And by the way, you know, as I said, going back and looking at the show, I was going, where did Vince even come from from my head?

Speaker 7 Because he said, you know, early on, like the first or second episode with a bad review, you don't take the good ones and you don't take the bad ones.

Speaker 7 So, you know, the New York Times said we were the best show on television for the first two seasons, you know, out of dramas, comedies, we were listed as number one.

Speaker 7 And then people said the movie was so bad.

Speaker 7 I don't really. waste my energy trying to figure out how to take it.
I think the world was changing.

Speaker 7 I think guys talking like that sort of went out of favor and all of a sudden girls started talking like that and that became the thing.

Speaker 7 But I thought the movie, if you like the show, you would like the movie. And, you know, there's exit polls that they do out here.

Speaker 7 And that weekend, which I remember, you know, SPY was the big movie that weekend, but we actually got a higher exit poll than they did. So

Speaker 7 I'm not a big fan of the critics, but you can't take the positives, you know, and then ignore the negatives, but they hurt for sure, you know.

Speaker 3 But you, you do, you say like, you know, guys don't talk like that anymore. But you got the one thing that you-I know, I didn't say, I didn't say that.

Speaker 7 I said people don't want to see it anymore.

Speaker 3 Yes, guys still talk like that. Yes, you're right.

Speaker 7 And by the way, you guys, you guys have done great stuff that you've kind of gotten back to that.

Speaker 7 And the truth is, Entourage got back to that because when I was growing up, it was corkies and animal house, and that kind of went out of favor.

Speaker 7 And Entourage is before the hangover, which Mark always used to say, those guys owe you a billion dollars. That's what Mark used to say to me.
But we were before that.

Speaker 7 And when I pitched the show, what my feeling was, is forgetting all the Hollywood. Hopefully that'll be interesting, but this is going to be guys talking how I know that guys talk.

Speaker 7 So of course guys still talk this way. And my defense of these four guys or five was that they were really, they were all good guys and they were all about each other and they weren't predators.

Speaker 7 They weren't this. So, you know, you can take it or leave it, but that's what it was.

Speaker 3 So what's your favorite like guy lingo line that you love that like still exists in Lexicon today from Entourage?

Speaker 7 I mean, mean you know listen i even watching the show the last few days and it doesn't make me uncomfortable but there is stuff that i realize i'm like i mean there's no way i would hand that in to the female executives which by the way that's who i dealt with when we were doing the show but you know i take pride and even your boy who attacked me by the way i don't know why but you know the guy comes out uh portnoy comes out of a p comes out of a pizza place and is like, I am Queens Boulevard.

Speaker 7 And he's like, can we talk about how overrated the writing is on this show?

Speaker 3 And I'm like, Doug is very very sensitive.

Speaker 3 I didn't even know that.

Speaker 7 One pizza review a million years ago.

Speaker 7 I'm like, you're quoting something I wrote 15 years ago and you're trashing me. But, you know,

Speaker 3 I love that line. Do you, do you cringe or like when people say hug it out, bitch?

Speaker 7 I love it. I mean, I love it.
I love Sports Center. I still hear Johnny Drama Victory.
And, you know, and Kevin Connie and Dylan and I were doing a podcast called the Victory Podcast. So I love it.

Speaker 7 And I love the fact that, you know, when that happened, I kept saying to Dylan every day, I said, said, say victory again. He's like, why do I keep saying this?

Speaker 7 I go, because it's going to become a thing. I knew it would.
So I feel, obviously, some pride in that. And obviously, Kevin had a lot to do with that as well.

Speaker 3 What about baby bro?

Speaker 7 Unfortunately, Connolly never got a real tag. Never had a real tagline.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Come on, Sloan, please.

Speaker 3 No, no, it's his, yeah, his tagline is Seth Green, right? I mean, like, tell Sloan I say hello. That's pretty much his tagline.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, that's interesting about drama. When he was saying baby bro, was that something when you wrote it, you knew that he was going to say baby bro over and over again?

Speaker 3 Or when he said it, I don't you were like, that sounds awesome.

Speaker 7 You know, we talked about this on the podcast, but like when you get the actors, you start, you know, going into what you see in them. And Dylan was so great.

Speaker 7 So there was just so many things to add to him. He just brought a lot of, you know, empathy to him and everything that came out of his mouth.
So.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 How weird was it to direct your own son? Because your son played Ari Gold's son in Entourage, right? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. You know, that was great.
Those are special memories, you know, and I didn't want him to be an actor.

Speaker 7 I didn't want him to be in the business, but he would hang around set and pivot and him would just start improvising. And he was like seven years old and everyone was like, you know, just put him on.

Speaker 7 So I did it. And it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 So it sounds like you have some personal history, some personal beef with a lot of people here at Barstool because there's Dave and

Speaker 7 that's it.

Speaker 3 Who else?

Speaker 4 Well, there's somebody that you might not even know that you have beef with, but your biggest fan probably here is Glenny Balls. Glenny Balls loves Entourage.

Speaker 4 You've probably seen his burger reviews with the balls scale, but you blocked him on Instagram like five years ago. He doesn't know why to this day you blocked him.

Speaker 4 And he swears that he was not trolling you in the comments. So I have to ask you, one, do you remember Glenny Balls? Two, do you just have an itchy block finger?

Speaker 7 I've got an itchy block finger. I don't know.

Speaker 7 By the way, Kevin Connolly blocked me on Facebook when I told him that he was not going to be available to direct the scene at Yankee Stadium when we were shooting it. So, Kevin knows about blocks.

Speaker 7 I honestly, I get, I get, and so does Kevin. We get in a lot of fights on Instagram with the comments, but I do not remember that specific thing.

Speaker 7 But he probably knows what he said, or maybe I did it on accident.

Speaker 3 Can you unblock him right now? He's a sweetheart. Yeah, he's like,

Speaker 3 he's the biggest fan.

Speaker 7 I will unblock him 100%. And by the way, Portnoy, I was a fan of his.
I just didn't know I would watch a pizza review and all of a sudden start getting abused 15 years later.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a ricochet shot. That's a big time ricochet.
Glennie Balls.

Speaker 4 It's G-L-E-N-N-Y-B-A-L-L-S. Glenny Balls.

Speaker 7 As soon as we are done,

Speaker 7 I will do that.

Speaker 3 I don't know. You got to do it right now.
I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 7 I swear to God, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3 Do it now.

Speaker 7 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 The unblocking.

Speaker 7 Do it. I know I'm going to get nasty messages or something.

Speaker 3 No, no, no.

Speaker 3 He'll be tickled pink. Hold on.
I'll FaceTime him right now so we can do a cross stream. There we go.

Speaker 7 By the way, I was going to send you guys some ping-pong video of me uh beating gronk pretty pretty handedly

Speaker 3 you you kicked gronk's ass in ping pong

Speaker 7 uh-huh

Speaker 7 i'm ready to come on there and kick anyone else's ass i can't really

Speaker 7 yeah i mean lenny balls fan page no oh

Speaker 3 yeah

Speaker 3 i didn't even know that exactly you blocked lenny balls's fan fan account

Speaker 7 No, no, that's what came up when I tagged it in to find him. Wait, Wes said it to me.

Speaker 3 He's probably taking a nap. I'll unlock him.
Yeah. Devil College is unlocking him.
He's so good.

Speaker 7 I'm too old to get abused anymore.

Speaker 3 He loves. He's like the biggest entourage fan in the world.

Speaker 7 He's back. I'll talk to him today.
I'll tell him I love him today. Okay.

Speaker 3 That actually makes me feel good.

Speaker 3 He's not picking up, which sucks.

Speaker 4 He's big timing us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's big timing us. Maybe we'll block him now.
Fuck that.

Speaker 4 Do you feel like George Clooney also owes you like a billion dollars because of his tequila company from the storyline. He stole it from the storyline you wrote in about Turtle?

Speaker 7 No, no, no.

Speaker 7 Those are my best friends who've had a tequila company, Avell, and they sold it for a couple hundred million dollars. And Mike Meldman started that with George.
He's a good friend of mine.

Speaker 7 I actually saw his son an hour ago. So I'm happy for them and God bless.
I hope they make 10 billion.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, by the way, have you ever thought about doing a spin-off? I think there's been rumors about an Ari Gold spin-off, but we got a different spin-off for you.

Speaker 3 I forgot we even pitched this, but Jimmy Tatro, our good friend out in L.A., we pitched him this idea, an entourage for bloggers.

Speaker 7 I like it. I like it.
But that's not a spin-off, though. You mean with a whole new cast?

Speaker 3 Yeah, a whole new cast. So I guess it wouldn't be a spin-off, but it would basically just be us hanging out doing nothing.
Or it becomes E's new management. Yeah, it could be E's new management.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. I like it.

Speaker 7 I like it.

Speaker 3 I like it.

Speaker 4 Maybe the bloggers leave negative reviews for Vinny's movies, and then they go team up with the bloggers, and they're like, hey, you think you can do a better job? Let's see a try. Right.

Speaker 4 And then we write the absolute worst movie that's ever been made.

Speaker 3 Well, the second to worst movie. I like it.
You wrote Fat Beach. You wrote Fat Beach, right? You wrote Fat Beach.
Wait a second.

Speaker 7 I was 21 years old. I got hired.
I mean, and I rewrote it, and I rewrote it, and it still plays. Chris Rock used to make fun of that in his stand-up, so I feel good about that.

Speaker 7 But we shot that in nine days when I was 22 years old.

Speaker 3 PH, with with a pH, Fat Beach. That's pretty impressive, though, to shoot an entire movie.

Speaker 7 I did not come up with that title. I did not come up with that idea.
I just was a guy who got hired to do it.

Speaker 4 Well, you'd rather have a movie that's like so noteworthy in how much people hate it that they talk about it in stand-up routines than one that nobody ever sees, right?

Speaker 7 I 100%. You know, I was paid $11,000 for it.
A lot of blocked accounts. This might take a second.

Speaker 3 How many?

Speaker 3 How many blocked accounts?

Speaker 7 Let's just say I'm still scrolling.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 7 There's a lot of nasty cows out there. I'm sure you guys do it.

Speaker 3 How many Emmys do you have to win to stop blocking people on social media? How many what? Emmys do you have to win to stop blocking people on social media?

Speaker 3 What's the threshold where you're like, I'm unassailable?

Speaker 7 You know what? It's not even that. It's just some people.
I mean, there's crazy.

Speaker 7 I had a guy last week who I think he was actually suing Mark also about bulls, but this fucking lunatic actor, Keith Middlebrook, starting a fight with me on Instagram. So I wrote some shit back.

Speaker 7 Fuck you. Then Then he started writing about coronic chores that he had.
The FBI arrested him last week. Google it.

Speaker 3 I mean, the guy, the FBI literally left his house and arrested him.

Speaker 7 So don't fuck with my Instagram. The FBI will show up afterwards.

Speaker 4 You and Big Ben probably blocked most people of social media.

Speaker 3 Yes. I mean, if you block Glenny Balls, that's.

Speaker 7 So you guys do not block anyone.

Speaker 3 I'll block spammers, like straight spammers that aren't actually commenting, that are just spamming their own links underneath like tweets and Instagram. That's pretty much it.
Right.

Speaker 4 I'll block block a spammer, but I won't block if it's actually like a robot, like a very attractive woman commenting under an Instagram post. Like, click here, I squirt, drop, drop, drop.

Speaker 3 Right. Like, I'm gonna let that play.

Speaker 4 That plays on my page.

Speaker 3 Right. I want the rest of my followers to be able to see that and click if they choose to.

Speaker 3 Right. All right.
I'm not trying to cockwalk anyone.

Speaker 4 And also, it's good for my image if people see that and they're like, wow, look at all these totally real women that just want to squirt everywhere.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You guys, you guys are too young and hot right now.

Speaker 7 So you get good stuff out of all this stuff. Right now, I don't, you know, I'm sitting in my house.
I don't really want to be abused by some asshole on the internet at this point, you know.

Speaker 3 But what about the squirters?

Speaker 7 My girlfriend's sitting here, so I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 3 All right, all right, all right, yeah. Good answer, Doug.

Speaker 3 You don't know what it means.

Speaker 4 Speaking of girlfriends, I always wondered when I was watching Entourage, like, was there a clock, an internal clock that you had every time a guy got a girlfriend?

Speaker 4 Like, okay, you have to figure out a way for them to break up so we can introduce another attractive woman to the show.

Speaker 7 I mean, you know, even looking back at the show, it's funny that they talk about all the sex in it. I mean, I'm through like the first season.
There's not that much sex in it, you know?

Speaker 7 Um, so we made the place look good, but there were good-looking guys as well. So

Speaker 7 we didn't have that, but we did have someone, a Boston guy, Jay Genoni, who was Wahlberg's buddy. He used to, he used to wrangle all the good-looking girls at the clubs to get extras for the show.

Speaker 7 So that was his job, and he was pretty proud of it.

Speaker 4 That is the perfect job for somebody named Jay Genoni is to be Mark Walbrick's guy that goes out and finds hot chicks at nightclubs.

Speaker 3 Yes. He had a business card.

Speaker 7 Yeah, what was his business card?

Speaker 7 What did it say on it, Kev? He had a business card back in the day. Entourage, producer.

Speaker 4 It says, not you, not you, not you.

Speaker 3 My last question has been awesome. You know, when you, when Entourage became very popular, it was on HBO.
Streaming services have taken over.

Speaker 3 How do you think you would have done if it were like the Netflix era and you had a lot, maybe not more to deal with, but there's just so many things on Netflix now.

Speaker 3 Do you think you would have had the same breakthrough success?

Speaker 7 My feeling is we would be bigger now.

Speaker 7 Social media didn't exist. And we, I think, you know, were a much younger show than most of the stuff on at HBO at the time.
And we still, you know, we found our audience.

Speaker 7 And I think it would have been something that spread a lot through social media.

Speaker 4 It's also tricky, though, because if it came out on Netflix, it sounds sounds like, you know, for better or for worse, you listen to what people say about the show, you can take that constructive criticism when it's not just like people being assholes and you can, you can kind of adapt with that.

Speaker 3 What do you got?

Speaker 4 No, no, I'm just saying, like, if it came out on Netflix, you wouldn't be able to get that constant feedback because you'd just be dumping all these episodes at once.

Speaker 3 So it's probably a good thing.

Speaker 7 I look at everything like it was, it was, you know, it was meant to be. It was the perfect timing.
I mean, HBO was really the only game in town at that point. It was the king of it.

Speaker 7 This wasn't a show.

Speaker 7 You you know in fact uh you know the executive the night before called me up to tell me like to get ready for some really bad reviews because they usually do smart stuff at hbo but uh fortunately the critics were good to us for a while and you know it was a good run with no glenny balls what no blocked glenny balls oh wow okay we're getting a lot of fake news on on our side then what um what what did you win your emmy for

Speaker 3 uh when the garden was eaten oh that oh yeah yeah yeah that's right i was just reading because i I didn't realize I should have introduced you.

Speaker 3 I didn't realize you were the screenwriter for Bad Santa 2. I should have introduced you as the screenwriter.
I actually

Speaker 7 ended up not, I was not.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Stolen 500.

Speaker 7 My good friend produced it, and I was writing for a bit on it, but we separated and went separate ways. I don't have a syllable in that script.

Speaker 3 So what are you working on right now?

Speaker 7 Right now, I'm working on a new show with Tierry Henry, the football player. I can't say soccer over there.

Speaker 7 and another pitch, which, you know, kind of leans into your blogger idea a little bit.

Speaker 3 So I'm working on a couple of the French entourage?

Speaker 7 It's something like that, but a little different.

Speaker 3 My last last question. Could you go into any like studio meeting and just be like,

Speaker 3 entourage for Nebraska? And people would be like, that's right, in.

Speaker 7 Definitely not. Definitely not.
You know, it used to, listen, it used to be like that because everybody used to sell shows. It's entourage here, it's entourage there.

Speaker 7 Then, as I said, the world started changing and entourage somehow got revisited as the show about a bunch of assholes who chase women, which it never really was. But

Speaker 7 it's a little, you know, PC right now, out of favor.

Speaker 3 So, entourage for Deloitte accountants.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's sick. It's going to be a sick show.
And I would sign that check. I'd be like, let's go.
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 You guys could fund it soon. So, you know, if you guys keep rolling like this.

Speaker 4 I like what you just did a second ago. And you're like, well, the other thing that I'm working on, it's funny.
It's actually kind of similar to what you guys just pitched me.

Speaker 3 That's it. That I said I would never do.
Yeah, take it. You've been using that.

Speaker 7 You can't sue me. You guys are totally fucked now.
You can't sue me.

Speaker 3 No, well, guess what? We won't sue you, but we'll start, you know, fighting with you in Instagram. And we know that's actually way worse than suing you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're just going to have our lawyer, Mike Portnoy, comment on all your Instagram comments.

Speaker 7 Don't have Portnoy come after me, by the way. I'm a fan of his.

Speaker 3 Oh, I think you, I don't think, I don't think we can control that, though. Yeah, but we can control his dad.

Speaker 3 So you're screwed.

Speaker 3 No, I think he'll be okay. He'll be okay.

Speaker 3 Well, thank you so much. This has been awesome, man.
We really appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 Thank you guys. I appreciate it.
Good luck with what you're doing. Everybody loves it.
So, okay.

Speaker 3 Thanks. Awesome.
You too. So,

Speaker 3 and wait, just so we're clear, don't comment about squirting videos in your Instagram.

Speaker 7 I'm dead.

Speaker 3 No, don't do it. Goodbye, guys.

Speaker 3 Goodbye. Don't do it.

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Speaker 4 And now, let's get to Ryan Jensen to talk about Tom Brady's butthole.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a special guest. It is starting center for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Ryan Jensen, who has been in the news recently, and we want to talk to you about that.
So

Speaker 3 you tweeted out about how Tom Brady was showing you how to fold your towel to minimize the ass sweat that you have when he's got his hands under your ass.

Speaker 3 Now, I would say the first question is, do you normally have a sweaty ass?

Speaker 7 For me, I'm not a big-time sweater. I'm not a swamp ass guy, you know, even though I'm 315.
You know, I'm a relatively non-sweat guy, but apparently I sweat too much for Tom.

Speaker 3 Okay. And so

Speaker 3 how, like, when he tried to tell you that, was he like, hey, man, this is going to be a big sticking point in our relationship. Like, you're sweating too much.

Speaker 7 Yeah, literally, the first conversation I ever had with Tom Brady

Speaker 7 after he signed with the Bucks was,

Speaker 7 you know, we talked life and stuff for about five minutes on the first phone call. And then it was straight to, hey, I need to just shove a towel down your ass so you don't get my hands sweating.

Speaker 3 That's perfect.

Speaker 4 So how particular was he when he was telling you how exactly where to fold it over, what size towel works, how many towels work? Like, did he get into the details with you? In the mud?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 7 it's actually funny.

Speaker 7 A lot of people are asking about that picture that I tweeted of, you know, I tweeted about it and was like, you know folded this way this way everybody was asking is that the actual conversation that we were having right there and that was literally the photographer caught us having the conversation about how to fold the towel and you know how far to put it down my pants and then how much baby powder to put down my crack so

Speaker 7 yeah I mean he was pretty particular about it you know it's got to be a

Speaker 7 good a good size hand towel, you know, one of those big towels that you see on the sideline.

Speaker 4 Okay, so it's like a hand towel. Then do you fold it hot dog style or hamburger style? Like, does it go all the way through the front? Could you floss with it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 7 yeah.

Speaker 7 He, uh, he, you know, you fold it hamburger style first and then, you know, hot dog style, and then, you know, shove it down there, you know, get it, get a nice and deep like, and, you know, throw a bunch of powder down there.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So is this now

Speaker 3 like when you, I'm sure there's, well, actually, you tell me, are you a player who gets like anxious before a game?

Speaker 3 Like, you know, you hear sometimes like, oh, they'll have nightmares, or there's that, you know, nervous energy energy that rushes through your veins before a game. Do you have that?

Speaker 7 Uh, not really. You know, I'm a little concerned about the whole towel thing, you know, since I'm out of my ordinary.

Speaker 7 You know, now it's like, you know, I got to get to the stadium a whole, you know, three minutes earlier to shove a towel down my ass. And,

Speaker 7 you know, that might give me a little bit of anxiety.

Speaker 3 What, what has it been like, though?

Speaker 3 Honest question about like, how many times you've worked out with Tom? Like, have you, you know, have you guys hung out outside of just working out? Or like, what what has that been so far?

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, we've, we've had a couple FaceTime calls and stuff, you know, you know,

Speaker 7 talking about details of, you know, how he likes things done, how I like things done.

Speaker 7 You know, I've only, I've only worked out with him, I think, twice now. So,

Speaker 7 you know, I haven't really had a good chance to, you know, sit down and hang out with him yet. But,

Speaker 7 you know, I just got back to Florida on Monday.

Speaker 3 So he listens to this show, you know. I think.
We think.

Speaker 4 When Julian Edelman.

Speaker 3 Julian Edelman makes him listen to this show.

Speaker 7 Yeah. You know, I don't know why he wouldn't listen to it.

Speaker 3 So do you want us to cut out that part about you saying he was too old? Oh, yeah, definitely cut that out. Okay, done.
Hank, make sure to remove that.

Speaker 4 And then this part explains whatever.

Speaker 4 So maybe one thing that you could do, because it's got to be different. I would imagine it's different running around making blocks, getting all your footwork right

Speaker 4 with a towel inside your butt crack as opposed to just going freeball, going commando with no towel.

Speaker 4 So this summer, are you just going to load up your butt with towels and just walk around the house, get some extra reps in? Maybe wear extra towels, and then on game day, you only have just one.

Speaker 4 It's like taking cuts with a leaded batting donut.

Speaker 7 Yeah, exactly. You know, I'm gonna, I might, you know, wrap some sandpaper in the towel, you know, just to really get that shafing, you know, get that callus built up.

Speaker 7 That way, you know, when it's just the towel, you know, it's it's uh you know, smooth like cotton.

Speaker 4 On game day, it's like a pillow, yeah. Um, do you think that you could tell the difference between

Speaker 4 Tom Brady's hand, Joe Flacco's hand, because you were on the Ravens,

Speaker 4 Jameis's hand. He's got small hands.
That's the small one. And then Ryan Fitzpatrick's hand.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 there's always a difference.

Speaker 7 You know, Fitzy, every time he would get under center, you know, he would give a little

Speaker 7 bit harder of a tap. You know, you always knew when Fitz was getting under center.

Speaker 7 But yeah, you definitely could tell different people's hands and stuff like that, as weird as that sounds, you know, got a very sensitive

Speaker 3 undercarriage. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Who was the most like caring and and sensitive when they would line up on the center

Speaker 7 uh

Speaker 7 most sensitive i don't i don't know probably probably joe because he never actually really got really that far in there you know he was it was almost like a low back hand placement so i'd say he probably the most gentle

Speaker 3 what um how many of jameis winston's 30 interceptions last year would you say you were responsible for

Speaker 7 um honestly i think probably

Speaker 3 uh one or two okay okay so he really only threw 28.

Speaker 7 yeah you know you know put it that way i snapped the ball early uh in the new orleans game at home uh i snapped the ball early and mike wasn't ready to run the route and he tossed it up and uh ended up being a pick so i'll i'll take responsibility for that one okay did you make any tackles last year

Speaker 7 I think I had one tackle.

Speaker 7 I'm pretty proud about, you know, I had, I think, six fumble recoveries, which you know isn't a great thing but you know i was you know ball hawk yeah i like that that's huge that is huge um you also there was a couple times you got into it with jameis on the sidelines what were those conversations like yeah you know jameis uh i love jameis first off you know me and him are really good are really good friends our kids are really good friends you know uh both we're both a little fiery and uh yeah it was just you know i got a personal foul on the you know on the the famous one and uh got a personal foul and And, you know, we kind of went at it a little bit.

Speaker 7 You know, a little FU, a little FU. You know, it was

Speaker 7 pretty good.

Speaker 3 Were you on the team when Jameis did the EDW?

Speaker 7 No, that was, I think, the year before I got there.

Speaker 3 Shit.

Speaker 3 Would you talk to any of your teammates about that?

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 3 it was. He did.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 7 No, a lot of guys were like...

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 not necessarily taken out of context, but they were just kind of like, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, that's just Jameis, though. Jameis is a clown like that sometimes.
And,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 he really is a good leader. And

Speaker 7 he gives some off-the-wall speeches, but

Speaker 7 it's always meant for the best, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 He's a future Hall of Famer. He is.

Speaker 7 For sure.

Speaker 3 Yes. Confirmed.

Speaker 4 Bruce Arians, do you have a good Bruce story about the first time he walked into camp? Did he cut anybody for parking in his spot this year?

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 7 he didn't, but somebody actually did.

Speaker 7 A young kid parked in his spot. And I was like, I walked in.
He literally just got there. It was like halfway through the year.
And

Speaker 7 I saw this random car parked in BA's parking spot. And I'm like, this is about six o'clock in the morning, maybe a little bit earlier.
Like, I've never seen that vehicle before.

Speaker 7 I've never seen BA get in that truck before. So I went to the locker room real quick.
It was literally some rookie that you know was on the street that he they brought in like week 12.

Speaker 7 I'm like, yeah, you might want to go move your car. Your ass might be gone.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's a trigger for Bruce.

Speaker 3 He's the man, though.

Speaker 3 We went and interviewed Bruce at his house in Georgia.

Speaker 3 He's a pretty good guy to hang out with.

Speaker 7 Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right. I had one last question.
And this one, people are going to probably be like, what is he asking? But Stephen Shea, who's the biggest Bucks fan in the world, our co-worker,

Speaker 3 asked, would you like to be his friend?

Speaker 7 Sure, I would love to be Stephen's friend.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 All right. Love?

Speaker 3 Love to be his friend?

Speaker 7 I don't know about love. I would like to be, you know, maybe acquaintances more than friends.

Speaker 3 Did you meet him when he came down to the Bucks facility last year?

Speaker 7 I don't think so. I think I saw him there.
I don't think I actually met him, though. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because I just

Speaker 3 love Stephen Shea, but the pictures from that were very funny because it felt like

Speaker 3 he was on a make-a-wish

Speaker 3 tour.

Speaker 3 And I just want you guys to all like him, you know, and be friends with him because he loves you guys so, so much.

Speaker 7 No, yeah, he's always, he's always, he's tagged me in a couple different things on Twitter.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, he said anything bad.

Speaker 4 He said that you got the Stephen Che breakdown treatment after week nine.

Speaker 3 Was it bad? Did you get bad breakdown?

Speaker 7 No, it was good breakdown. I think, I think we won that game.
You know, I was kicking some dudes' ass. So, you know, okay.
All right, there, you know, it made me like him.

Speaker 3 Not to add more anxiety because you have Tom Brady's sweat, butt sweat anxiety. But now, just so you know, Stephen Shea is watching every game very closely in film breaking down.

Speaker 3 So, if you make a mistake, he will find it.

Speaker 7 I'm here for it, you know? Okay,

Speaker 3 he is a challenge. Yeah, you don't want to challenge him.

Speaker 4 Iron sharpens iron.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Mr. Bisky's never been the same since Stephen Shea broke down that film.

Speaker 4 It's very true.

Speaker 4 He also said that you're a big meat guy.

Speaker 3 What does that mean?

Speaker 3 You like cooking meat?

Speaker 7 Love cooking. Cooking steak, smoking briskets,

Speaker 7 anything you throw on a grill.

Speaker 7 That's for me.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite cut of steak?

Speaker 7 I'm a ribeye guy. Nice, thick-cut ribeye.

Speaker 3 Good choice. That gets me.

Speaker 4 Good choice. If you had said sirloin, I would have absolutely questioned your credentials.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I probably would have took it.

Speaker 3 All right. Well, thank you for joining us, man.
And best of luck this year. And best of luck with, I don't even know.
Have you guys heard anything?

Speaker 3 Tell us some inside news, like when we're going to have sports back.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they really haven't told us anything. I don't really think anybody knows what the hell is going on, to be honest.

Speaker 7 With the NFL, you know,

Speaker 7 there's all those rumors going around about, you know, playing in empty stadiums and stuff like that, which would be

Speaker 7 weirder than hell.

Speaker 3 But it'd be awesome for you, I'd assume.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it'd be great for me because there'd be no crowd noise.

Speaker 3 Right. Right.
You got to be kind of rooting for that.

Speaker 4 Oh, I have one last question.

Speaker 4 Were you guys aware of my dog when he was talking about Gronk coming back?

Speaker 7 Uh-uh.

Speaker 4 You didn't hear about my dog. Okay.
Have you? We can cut that part out.

Speaker 3 Have you met Gronk?

Speaker 7 I haven't yet.

Speaker 7 I think he was down here last week and I just got back this week, but I think he's moving down. I think he's actually going to live pretty close to where I'm living at.

Speaker 7 So, you know, I'd love to block party.

Speaker 3 Yeah. LMFAO.
Make sure you got that on

Speaker 3 your Pandora list. Definitely.
Yeah. All right.
Well, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it.
Best of luck. And hopefully we'll talk to you during the season.
Perfect. Sounds good.

Speaker 4 Good luck, man.

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Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 3 let's finish up the show. Let's do it with our documentary review.

Speaker 3 We reviewed this week the Dude Perfect documentary titled

Speaker 3 Backstage.

Speaker 4 It took us backstage on their Pound It Noggin tour.

Speaker 4 Which we all know that's how they sign off in their videos. Pound it.
They pound it, fist, and then they go noggin for the headbutt.

Speaker 3 And then they do a quick prayer, hoping that

Speaker 3 Jesus will look over them while they shoot a basketball into a hoop.

Speaker 3 I was shocked that Rob Deerdeck was the executive producer. That was my first note.

Speaker 4 I feel like Rob was very hands-off with this documentary. I think Rob was like, I will put my name on it and give my production company to it, and then I will collect a check.

Speaker 3 This,

Speaker 3 so I don't know where we want to start.

Speaker 4 I'll start with this. To understand Dude Perfect, you have to understand that.

Speaker 3 We should put a disclaimer first.

Speaker 3 What's the disclaimer? The disclaimer is that I don't want to come. Personally, this is how I feel.
I don't want to sound salty. I think, like,

Speaker 3 the hustle is respectable. The hustle is respectable.
The grind is respectable. It's good for them that they've all provided for their families and made a lot of money.

Speaker 3 So, like, there's no knock there. Right, we'll get to all that.

Speaker 4 I think that's part of the review because it does get into like their family life and a little bit of their backstory and all that.

Speaker 4 Um, but it sounds like Hank is about to rip him a new asshole and wants to.

Speaker 3 I'm just going to be honest with you. You made me watch this documentary.
That's my whole thing. It's like, I go on my way to avoid, right? No offense.

Speaker 3 Good guys, good for them providing for their family. Like, I respect the hustle.
I I respect the grind, I respect how much money they made. Good for them.
They sold out stadiums.

Speaker 3 That's crazy, but good for them.

Speaker 3 This is, and I don't mean this in a bad way, but when you ever think, like, you're like, you know, your college years, and you're like, what would it have been like if we didn't drink?

Speaker 3 Just watch this dude perfect.

Speaker 4 Exactly right.

Speaker 3 Like, if we didn't, if we just never had a sip of alcohol and didn't talk to girls, what would my college life have been like? Dude Perfect documentary.

Speaker 4 Because you have to figure out how to pass those hours.

Speaker 3 By throwing footballs at each other in your living room.

Speaker 4 You get home from class, it's five o'clock on like a Friday. Most college kids are like, okay, let's empty the kegerator.

Speaker 3 Right. You know, and that's not a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing.

Speaker 4 Most college kids are like, okay, it's time to party.

Speaker 4 They all found four other guys that were like them, didn't want to drink, and were just, they're like, hey, let's just be goofy instead and come up with these weird games that we can play together to pass time.

Speaker 4 Yep. And they get, one thing I'll say about them, they have managed to get, to stay pumped their entire lives, their entire adult lives.
They're always amazed when anything small happens.

Speaker 4 If you were to flip over this can of pure or this bottle of Purell right now

Speaker 4 and land it, it's like, oh, even if I had missed it, they'd be like, oh no, he didn't make it. Like, they are living in the moment.
They're doing a good job of that.

Speaker 4 But to understand Dude Perfect, you have to understand Texas AM culture. Right.
These five guys are the most Texas AM people that you will ever see in your lives.

Speaker 4 They are the poster children for weird Aggies that graduate, wear their rings all the time.

Speaker 4 The biggest trick shot dude Perfect ever made was the five of them all having kids at the exact same time. Yes.
All their babies are the same age. Yep.

Speaker 4 They nutted the sperm hit the egg and they were all like pound it noggin.

Speaker 3 Noggin.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've always said Texas A ⁇ M's biggest rival is against fun.

Speaker 3 So it makes sense. Like, you know, you go to Texas A

Speaker 3 and you wear your class ring and you do trick shots. I also, is this a southern thing, but calling a basketball hoop a basketball goal? No.

Speaker 4 That's an old, old person thing.

Speaker 3 But they're like, they were

Speaker 3 20.

Speaker 4 I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, should we rank them, by the way?

Speaker 4 Let's do it.

Speaker 3 Okay, I actually like tall guy. Yes, tall guy's good.
I also think the tall guy has a little look. He kind of in like a different light looks a little bit like Chris Bryant.

Speaker 3 So I had feels when they were showing Chris Bryant at one point I thought there was two Chris Bryant. Right.
I had feels for Cody because I was like, I fucking love you, Chris Bryant.

Speaker 3 It's like, wait, that's not Chris Bryant. That's Cody.
We were actually right.

Speaker 3 I wish we had recorded our session when we were like trying to

Speaker 3 completely. Plan the breakup of Dude Perfect.
But the one, the neat freak, like they were like, he. Garrett.
You could tell that they were too nice, obviously.

Speaker 3 They didn't go into any of the feuds or the hatred that they definitely all have for each other, which is fucking annoying. But Garrett, they alluded to him not like

Speaker 4 this. This is like Michael Michael Jordan.
Dude Perfect made their own documentary, so we have to read between the lines a little bit.

Speaker 3 They alluded to Garrett not liking being around because they're so messy. I have a feeling that Garrett definitely hates the rest of them more than

Speaker 3 the others.

Speaker 3 It's more than just the tidiness.

Speaker 4 If you look at the nicknames and the personas behind all of them, you've got the twins, very clearly, the twins. Twin one and twin two.
Tall guy. He's tall.
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 You got beard guy, and then you have the purple hoser, and that's Garrett.

Speaker 4 And Garrett's only personality trait besides being clean is that he he decided to wear purple on he likes the color purple he wears the color purple a lot i like this he's he's okay i actually think that tall guy should have been the beardo tall guys should be the front man well i mean if we want to talk about if we want to talk about tyler we can get to tyler in a little bit

Speaker 3 has there ever been a more obvious thing than tyler's dad being their agent nope and tyler's dad rocking like a backwards hat and under armor tight t-shirts all right this all makes sense yep Okay.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 4 It was so obvious. It's like, my son is going to be the star.

Speaker 3 I was like, wait, which one is it?

Speaker 4 Because he's got the beard.

Speaker 3 I also.

Speaker 4 Everyone loves his rage thing that everyone talks about.

Speaker 3 Rage Monster. We got so many emails about the Rage Monster.
Tyler's saying. We're fucking keeping it.

Speaker 4 Tyler was like, probably the most popular thing that we do at Dude Perfect is when I do the Rage Monster.

Speaker 3 Yeah, when everyone's like, Rage Monster.

Speaker 3 I know that we've joked about them before, but

Speaker 3 I don't think I ever really learned their names.

Speaker 3 So when I saw the intro and it was truly like cody kobe corey i was like wait am i being pranked like this actually is their names okay tyler and garrett um

Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 all right so my biggest take uh well i did love i and i'm i'm not i'm sure people will get mad at this i'm not a religious person but i did love the religious circles like they were going to war when they were just like jumping around in like sumo suits yeah but to each their own not gonna not gonna judge them on that is there is it christian only?

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 4 Dude Perfect? Like I feel like

Speaker 4 as a Jewish person,

Speaker 4 would you feel comfortable attending a Dude Perfect show?

Speaker 3 I think I would. I'd have no problem with it.
I don't like religious people no matter what denomination, but I'm whatever. Teach their own.
People should be able to do whatever they want.

Speaker 4 They seem all like future youth pastors.

Speaker 3 Yes. Summer camp.
And to be fair, they're really good with kids. Yes.

Speaker 4 What were the twins' names?

Speaker 3 Cody and Kobe. Cody and Kobe and Cody and Cody and Corey.
I think the biggest one. Kobe and Corey.

Speaker 3 kobe and corey which is the one that had bell's palsy where his face went numb twin one or twin two because i actually like that they creep me out i he's the best of the two twins you knew we were getting a good documentary when the guy was like the first time i met kobe and corey is when i went to their house and they were learning the soldier board dance and a projector yes and instead of leaving running away and never coming back he was like

Speaker 3 and we're best friends for life now

Speaker 3 i was just like oh my god

Speaker 4 you see that clip of either cody or corey when he was like 11 years old playing basketball in his driveway and doing like the and one style dribbling

Speaker 3 i would just based off that i would have walked away from that person for forever i would have yeah imagine squatted that shit imagine being in college

Speaker 3 imagine being in college and walking into a room with two twins with bull cuts yeah doing the soldier boy dance i mean kind of cool i mean like these dudes are sick all right so my biggest takeaway and this is where i probably deviate from you guys but it's a perspective thing because i used to think it was the lamest thing ever and now watching this documentary and being a dad, I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 3 It's clean fun. And someday, like my son might be like, I want to go to a dude perfect show.
And I'll be like, oh my God, whatever you want, like to make you happy.

Speaker 3 That happens.

Speaker 3 But I'd be fine with that. Like, I actually, I think two years ago or a year ago, I'd be like, this is so lame.
But watching it and seeing who it's for, I think my original hate for them was like,

Speaker 3 if we're competing for the same audience, how the fuck are are people picking them over us, even though we do different things?

Speaker 3 But then I realized, like, they're like a kids' show, and it's it's you know what? I'm not gonna hate on a kids' show because a kid's show, like, it's fun.

Speaker 3 They make people happy, they make people smile. It's not for me, but I'm not gonna hate on them.

Speaker 4 I, I kind of fall into the same camp as big cat, and I, I came out of watching this

Speaker 4 understanding, dude. Perfect.
Yeah, they started doing this.

Speaker 3 Oh, thanks so much.

Speaker 4 Listen, they started doing this to pass the time. They turned it into a very lucrative career.

Speaker 4 It seems like they've got a fun job that they like going to when they're not hating the beard guy and his dad for running everything. I think that what they're doing is a net positive.

Speaker 4 I cried during this movie. You did? I cried in the scene with the kid that had leukemia.
Yeah. When they went to his house after I'm talking to him, he's going to come to the show.

Speaker 4 Listen, they went to his house, Hank. He couldn't go to their show that night.
It's a good thing.

Speaker 3 They did

Speaker 3 fuck are we watching it

Speaker 3 performance for him?

Speaker 4 And then they FaceTimed the last two movies I've cried in, Forrest Gump in like 1999 and Dude Perfect Noggin Pound It in 2020.

Speaker 4 I teared up during this movie.

Speaker 3 This is what I'm saying. I didn't want to come across as a hater.
Like, I, Dude Perfect, good for them. Fucking making bank, doing their thing.
Awesome, cool, sick. However,

Speaker 3 if I have to be forced to watch it, I'm not going to hide the fact that I was cringing out of my skull and it was just so so like they're just yeah see i i just i get it i get it and it's like they're making money so i understand it's like good for them but it's just like it's good clean fun cool but when you watch it you're still like what like who like why am i watching they're nickelodeon they are like the nit like like when they show russell wilson i'm like there's no better pair than dude perfect and russell wilson it's good clean fun there was no moment that any of them were like universally like that was hilarious like there's no there was

Speaker 3 no substance in the movie it was just like wait we did we're constantly stoked what about when Kobe hit the

Speaker 3 fly off the orange juice? Yeah. That was the entire movie got it.
And everyone's like, wait, wait, wait, boom.

Speaker 4 Or what about when they put peanut butter and jelly on that guy's, on their dad's face and then put the bread on?

Speaker 3 Like last dance, you know, you're watching a documentary. There's, there's X crucial moments in the season that, you know, made, made everything happen.

Speaker 3 There was no substance in this entire documentary. It's just like, we made videos, became popular, and then we got sponsors and we sold out.

Speaker 4 Wrong, Hank. They said, I will say their this is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 I don't want to sound like a hater, but I can't sit there and watch it and not

Speaker 3 be like this. I hate this.
I hate this.

Speaker 4 They had a choice to

Speaker 4 either die or grow.

Speaker 3 And they grew. Right, because they said we're going to do stereotypes.

Speaker 4 Yes. And then Beero's dad was like, okay, my son gets to do all the stereotypes.

Speaker 4 And he gets to introduce everybody. And he gets to be the rage monster.

Speaker 3 Sit in the middle.

Speaker 4 He gets to rage in every single one of their stereotypes. Every situation needs a rage guy, obviously.
Rage monster.

Speaker 4 I thought it was funny how before every single show that they did they get stressed out about something and what they were getting stressed out about was always so hilarious it's like oh our t-shirt cannon isn't going to be able to hit the dunk tank right unless we change our drone battery right right right there was like so many kobe's been kobe's been uh really cold from three on the oversized rim today will he make it in prime time uh there was one i think we're absolutely right to say that it was it garrett tyler the beardo tyler tyler that there is absolutely some animosity towards Tyler.

Speaker 4 Sure. When Purple guy, the Purple King.

Speaker 3 Yes, Garrett, the real one.

Speaker 4 Was sitting down. They did like a double interview as him and Beardo.
And Garrett was like, you know, it's crazy. When the cameras come on, Beardo really always comes out to shine.

Speaker 4 And you could read him between that line and be like, he does not like Beardo and thinks that Beardo's a dick when the cameras are off. And then when they come on, then all of a sudden he's Mr.

Speaker 4 Personality.

Speaker 3 Right, right. And I mean, credit to them for making money

Speaker 3 and doing the whole thing.

Speaker 3 My final answer on Dude Perfect. You made hundreds of thousands of people watch this documentary.
How do you feel about that? That's my question. Okay.
I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 3 My final thought on Dude Perfect is this.

Speaker 3 I think it's good, clean, fun. I understand.

Speaker 3 I understand now it's a kid's show. It's a kid's show.
Okay. It's a fucking kid's show.
Like, eight-year-olds looking on YouTube. Like, if my son

Speaker 3 shows me when he's nine years old, like, check out this, Dad, I found this. I'd be like, good, because I'd rather you watch this than whatever's out on the fucking internet.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 3 this is the good path for a regular young kid to be like, hey, these guys are funny. They're goofy.
They, like, pie each other and shoot threes.

Speaker 3 But if you get a bunch of people, but you're going to be like, but little cat, no rage monster. No, but here's my caveat.
Here's my astronomy. You're going to DM them and be like, guys.

Speaker 3 Here's my astronomy. My son just rage monster.
Do I, do I still, knowing that, knowing everything I just said, that I'm actually in favor of good, clean, fun, and it's endearing and all that shit.

Speaker 3 If you ask me, do I, am I, is there a small part of me that's rooting for one of them to get into like a huge sex scandal, drug-running scandal? Of course, because that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 Who do you think?

Speaker 4 Who do you think is the one that's most likely to get caught up in some mischief?

Speaker 3 Tyler's fucked all the ones. Beardo or purple.

Speaker 4 I think, what if the twins are fucking each other?

Speaker 3 That would be be fine. That'd be fine with each other.
That'd be a good scandal. Although, is incest legal in Texas, yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, yes.

Speaker 4 Then don't college station, yeah. I think it's yeah, so maybe not that, but like as long as you're related to the sheep.

Speaker 3 If one of them had like a tiger woods-esque, like he's fucking he's fucked like a thousand MILFs on the road, yeah, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 4 And was there ever a more obvious black leather or black rubber wedding ring guy than Beardo?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that was him and Andy known from the start. Yeah, um, I

Speaker 4 noticed that Drew Brees didn't bring his daughter to meet them backstage. Tough.
I saw that.

Speaker 4 I made a special note of that one.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Here's the thing about them.

Speaker 4 They started out going for a similar audience, I think, to what part of my takes audience is. No.

Speaker 3 But they know they tried. They tried to.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 4 They tried to.

Speaker 3 No, they didn't. And then they're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 They put a fucking video on YouTube. Why are all these kids? They sent that video to their mom and dad and be like, mom, look how hard we worked on this sick-ass trick shot video.

Speaker 3 and then it got picked up which good for them not hating good for them for getting the views no but they did not go into it being like we're trying to fucking bros are gonna love this let's go back in 20 they're like our parents are gonna love this

Speaker 3 we put out our first episode of part of my take for some reason our entire audience is nine-year-olds do we then yes do we then cater our our show to nine-year-olds that's what i'm i guess that's what you probably know yeah i would do that yes absolutely like i don't that's what i'm saying i'm not knocking them because they made so much money that if i had the opportunity to make as much money of them and I had to do what they did, I would do it 10 times out of 10.

Speaker 3 But if I'm subject to watch their fucking show, I'm still personally, as a 26-year-old, not going to like it. And I'm going to be like, this is cringe.

Speaker 4 It is funny behind the scenes how they try to do their version of jackass, but it's jackass for youth ministers.

Speaker 3 Right, right. It's like, oh, we just cranked the shit out of you because we put up

Speaker 4 all your old high school pictures in your dressing room before the show.

Speaker 3 Right. It's gotcha.
Once you realize what they are,

Speaker 3 I just just can't hate the way I thought I hated them. Because I just, maybe I'm soft.
Maybe it's the dad. Yeah, no, it is.
It actually is. When they start talking about

Speaker 3 their kids, and I'm just like, oh man, like, I kind of get this. So, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that they're good people that are corny as shit.

Speaker 3 So do you guys feel bad for Bro Sweet now? No.

Speaker 3 Actually, we should bring Bro Sweet. What about when you bro sweeted in their face? That was pretty a little mean.

Speaker 3 What if your son was like, oh my God, like, look at these guys. They hate Dude Perfect.
And you're like, that was me. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, i i hope my son's smarter to not be like who's that random dude that looks exactly like my dad

Speaker 3 you never know i think i hank i think that uh we can keep the rivalry going yes oh i don't i don't like dude perfect's content i understand them and i understand them bad guys and they are good whoever said they were they're good nerds yeah exactly they're they're

Speaker 3 their office is sick too like listen when you have the spectrum of nerds who would you rather have dude Perfect or Darren Revelle?

Speaker 3 Dude Perfect. Like they're not perfect.
That's the most loaded question you could ever have.

Speaker 3 Literally,

Speaker 3 you could put anyone

Speaker 3 on the other side of Darren Revelle. There's really no one that would be like, oh, Darren Revelle.
That's the spectrum of nerd.

Speaker 3 There's the nerd that just well actually is everyone's life for a living. And then there's the nerds that do trick shots and have a Nickelodeon show.

Speaker 4 Now, if you were to ask me... If that spectrum continues, it's like Tim, our dungeon master, or Dude Perfect, it's Tim every time.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because Tim is at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 He's not really a nerd, though. He's a fucking G.

Speaker 3 He's a huge nerd. He's a G of a nerd.
He's a G. He is the nerd.
He is cooler than all of us. I love Tim.
He's still a nerd. Okay, but he's cooler than all of us.
But he's still a nerd.

Speaker 3 I'm using the word dragon.

Speaker 4 He's a nerd for Tim, not in like a bad pejorative.

Speaker 3 Okay, he's a G. Say it.
Tim Woods is a G.

Speaker 4 Another one of my favorite parts was reading the little screen caps of the Yelp reviews that they would put up on the screen or like the Google reviews for the live performance that it'd be a bunch of like 45 year old women that would review and be like that show was lit y'all yeah like like using 1990s early 2000s rap lingo to describe dude perfect going out there and like smashing a banana with her foot i'm just getting myself set because i think if they stick around for the next 15 years i will someday have to go to a dude perfect show and guess what i'll hopefully get backstage backstage passes so my son thinks i'm a hero i did and i did think like i did have that thought again.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm not trying to come off as the biggest hater in the world. I did have the thought where it was, like, I think I went to fucking, like, Disney on ice as a kid.

Speaker 3 Like, I probably would have liked going to Dude Perfect more. Exactly.

Speaker 3 But I still hated watching the documentary. That's like, that's my takeaway.
If you were nine, they would be the sweetest bros in the world. Right.

Speaker 4 And I think Big Cat also says that because they are the complete opposite. Their fans are the complete opposite of Calli Teens that he's afraid of.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, a Calli teen would not be caught dead at a Dude Perfect.

Speaker 3 No, because they're real ones. No, Callie Teens would smoke weed and then listen to us and be like, I could bully all of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right. That's our show.
Great show. We'll see everyone Tuesday.
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