"The Last Dance" Review, NFL Draft With Daniel Jeremiah + Mt Flushmore Of Toppings

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have The Last Dance Review. Episodes 1 and 2 dropped Sunday night.
It was crazy to actually all for one time in the last like two months get in front of the TV and watch something simultaneously. It almost like sports were back we have daniel jeremiah we have who's back of the week we do a lot of nfl draft it's draft week nfl draft deep dive we have mount flushmore of toppings and then we had billy just tell us uh the bunker that he created the berserker bunker that's also half zoo just an unintentionally hilarious billy deep dive this week ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariot ariot work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out out Ariat in your local workwear retailer or visit Ariat.com slash work to get 10% off your first order when you sign up for email.
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So lead story. Blaze it.
Blaze it good. What a night this was.
You touched on it in the intro. But, man, it felt awesome to all be doing the same thing at the same time as everybody.
It was great. I didn't see a single tweet out there that said, oh, is this sports ball movie on? I didn't see anybody being negative about it.
It was just cool to experience something, even though there were commercials. It was cool to experience something again at the same time as everybody else.
I missed you guys. Well, I agree with you.
Yeah, it was incredible. It's an incredible first two episodes of the documentary, but it was also nice to get back together,

and it felt like watching a big game,

felt like watching Sunday Night Football.

The commercials thing did fuck me up.

It was so weird.

When the first commercial came on,

I was like, what the fuck is going on with my TV right now?

The most I'm used to is that three seconds

that Netflix gives you to watch the next episode of The Office,

and here I am having to watch three minutes of content I don't you to watch the next episode of The Office. And here I am having to watch like three minutes of non-content content I don't want to watch.
I haven't that hasn't even like it come into my brain for the last 35 days. It's the one good thing about quarantine is commercials are just completely obsolete.
And here we are like suckers watching commercials. I hope that ESPN is getting like Super Bowl level money for the commercials because holy shit, we're captivated.

We can't go anywhere and we're frozen out of fear.

Like when the commercial came on, I thought my computer – I mean my TV broke.

Well, it's from the Facebook company now.

They changed their name.

It's like the Ohio State University.

It's no longer just Facebook.

You have to put that at the start of it.

And now they're trying to get us to put their robots inside our house after every fuck up that they've had over the last six years. That's probably what irritated me the most about the commercials was just that it was like Facebook being like, hey, can we put a spy in your house? That's cool, right? You guys don't have a problem with that.
You got nothing else going on. But it was so good and it was so fun to watch alongside everybody else that I didn't even mind.

Like I needed a little bit of a break to take a breath because the stories are that compelling. And if you were born in the mid 90s, if you were born in the 2000s, you don't remember these teams.
This must be even better for you getting to watch all this shit for the first time. But like going behind the scenes and seeing all the drama that was going on.
Let me just say Jerry Krause, congratulations, Carol Baskin, because you are off the hot seat as the most hated person in America. Jerry Krause, sometimes in life and listen, as a fellow short guy, I think I'm definitely taller than Jerry Krause, but as a fellow short guy, you have to know your place sometimes.
And sometimes your place is to just shut the fuck up and just don't do any – don't fuck up a good thing, Jerry. Shut the fuck up.
Quit being an idiot. You look like a moron.
You got a stupid face. You're not going to improve anything.
I was so mad at him. Here's the thing, though.
Jerry Krause deserves to be hated for the way that the Bulls dynasty ended, but he also deserves credit for putting together,

you know, being a big part of putting together the Bulls dynasty.

And the best Jerry Krause quote out there that I've ever seen,

I think it was a David Halberstam quote,

when he said Krause deserved more credit than he got,

but wanted more credit than he deserved.

So he's constantly stuck in that spot where he is like,

I should be getting more credit. And he probably in a weird way should but he wanted so much credit that it then became a detriment and a galvanizing force for those bulls teams to be like fuck you dude and and you saw it when mj shit talking about the ring night you saw it scotty pippen being like fuck this i can't handle anymore like he he was he was a figure that like and and they didn't really get they kind of touched on it but like he was openly flirting with tim floyd like openly openly flirting with tim floyd they they kind of mentioned that you know it's like oh yeah jerry kind of tried to trade scotty pippen he tried to trade scotty pippen 11 days after scotty pippen had the game-winning steal against the Jazz to win the fifth title.
11 days. And he had already tried to trade him a few times before that.
So yes, Jerry Krause is going to be the villain of this. And part of me, like in a weird way, feels a little bad because he's the only one who's passed away and can't speak up for himself.
He's not here to defend himself. But even still, he does deserve a lot of this criticism because it really was Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen versus Jerry Krause.
And I jokingly said it before the first episode, but Jerry Reinsdorf firing Gar Pax before this came out was genius because he took Jerry Krause's side. And he went against, like, imagine in today's nba the best player in the world so lebron james right now being like oh i want to i want to i want my coach to stay and the front office being like nah like it's it's insane organization yeah it is it is i think people have started to realize that maybe having a transcendental player is a little more beneficial to your team than having like a decent coach that your owner gets along with and just watching jerry the the powerful powerful energy of uh maury for maury's wigs that he gives off is just incredible and you keep wondering when scotty pippen is going to put that ice pick through the back of his neck because he's scotty mad at him the whole time.
And I don't blame Scottie Pippen. He was 122nd highest player in the NBA in, what, 1997, 1998? That's insane.
Sixth highest player on the Bulls. And that's also a classic Reinsdorf thing to be like, well, I told him at the time to not sign that contract.
And Scottie's story is a great one because it's like he came from a large family. He wanted to help his family.
And to not renegotiate, that's kind of what the M.O. of the front office.
I also love the peak of John Paxson saying, oh, yeah, Jerry Krause tried to storm into the locker room after we won and they played MJ more minutes than he should have because of his hurt foot. foot and he was like yeah it was a bad scene and i wanted to be like are you did you just did you say like the the front office and and the team having big time rift was a bad scene like foreshadowing much or have a little self-awareness here of like what's going on well i think that's why he kind of swallowed that line he kind of he could have expanded on that a little bit but he knew in the back of his own brain he's like you're getting into very well he also yeah i mean he just let that one breathe he also knew that he choked vinnie del negro so like that actually happened as well when he was the coach uh it was it was actually fascinating seeing how it went all the way back to that celtic series where where jordan kind of will team's way.
By the way, they went like 30 and 50 or something like that and got the 8th seed. Willed their way into the playoffs.
They played the Celtics. You get to see a little glimpse of the game changing because I think a lot of times we talk about, oh, this player changed the game.
And you don't really know what that looks like. But you can see what it looks like when you see Rick Carlisle playing out there and then Michael Jordan playing.
And you're like, OK, this was a person who took a game that was at this level before. And then, yeah, the Celtics were really good.
That was like one of the best teams of all time. Yes, they're really good.
But you could see like that's that's when the game changed into like a much, much more version well i'd actually i'd actually disagree

i'd say that's not when the game the game changes because michael jordan was that much better than everyone because there was no one else like him like no one else came along after like right after him or during his era who was like that and it i mean that's it's like magic johnson yeah but magic was already there but the the quote the the larry bird quote that was god disguised as michael jordan is like an all-time quote and that was the that like little montage to have magic in Larry Bird while still like playing him basically being like yeah he's the best he's the best player in the world like that's crazy we also we also got a couple great quotes out of this we got Scottie Pippen saying I'm not gonna fuck my summer up that's great that that quote's gonna live on. He was the pre-Shaq when Shaq did it, when he said, I got hurt on company time.
I'm going to heal on company time, which is a baller move that he did with the Lakers where he's like, I'm just going to get in shape and fix all my body ailments when the season starts. I mean, Scottie had every right to do that.
This is the summer of Scottie. He was like, I'm going to go to Cabo.
I'm going to'm gonna take my shirt off and i'm gonna meet some ladies and uh there's no chance that i'm just gonna spend that time rehabbing and then uh there was also a great quote later on when uh was it well common common story was ridiculous i think he's lying about that by the way did you see common story where he didn't even make the documentary he got commercial like that sucks How much do you think that autograph would go for? The autograph of Common signing Michael Jordan's name incorrectly. Yeah, it's a good question.
It's a good question. A lot, a lot of money.
Probably a lot these days. Yeah, the traveling cocaine circus was good, too.
Yeah, Michael Jordan basically being a narc and being like, no, thank you. Like, gambling, yes.
Drinking, yes. Cocaine, absolutely fucking not.
Although, he didn't drink he didn't even drink back then either yeah it's true but he does drink now his mom his michael jordan's mom looking 30 years younger than michael jordan's like okay that was like that that's crazy and that's probably maybe a little plastic surgery but it was like holy shit like she's she's she's 40 this might just be the quarantine talking but michael jordan's mom got on tv i was like fellas the the uh i need what i need like it was it was a great first two episodes i fucking need more practice footage of mj just ripping into everyone and poor ron harper just like the this is the fucking butt of every single criticism that MJ has to throw out there. But like, that's, that's, you know, the whole documentary starts and he's like, I wanted it more.
And like the story, the other one was Roy Williams, like Roy Williams could talk. It could just be 10 hours of Roy Williams talking, um, when he says fricking and, and it's like more powerful than any swear word ever.
But him saying that like you know when the story of mj basically being a lightly recruited guy comes to the camp five days later like yeah he's the best player in the country he's like holy shit yeah and being like this dadgum youngster that that gets me going just when roy williams says that about you you know he also had the roy williams also had the quote michael Jordan is the only player that could turn it on and off And he never freaking turned it off So I think That means he didn't have an on and off switch Because he never turned it off Either he knew that there was an off switch But it was just never He just acknowledged that it was there Yeah It's like the meme of the guy sweating with the two buttons in front of him. One button says, turn it on, and the other button says, don't turn it off.
And it was, yeah, I mean, the whole first two episodes, I think the third episode might be Rodman, but this was like Scotty Pippen. I mean, that's the other thing.
You know what was cool is also seeing people, because like, you know, we're both 35, so we remember it, but not like the first, you know, the 80s stuff, obviously we don't remember at all. But like our guy, RJ Hampton, who plays for the Breakers, who was born probably in, I don't know, 2002.

When he like tweeted, he's like, oh my God.

And they were all twos talking about a 63 point performance against Celtics. was born probably in in i don't know 2002 uh when he he like tweeted he's like oh my god and they

were all twos talking about a 63 point performance against celtics like seeing that it's like okay

this this is actually going to have the effect that that they knew it was like people who never

saw michael jordan play are going to be like holy shit this is insane that was actually that was

actually a crazy stat line too so that stat line was 63 and then five and six which is wild because

Thank you. Holy shit.
This is insane. That was actually a crazy stat line, too.
So that stat line was 63 and then 5 and 6, which is wild because now there's so many triple doubles, and they didn't have as many back then. And then the game before that, I think he had, what, like 55 and then 4 rebounds? Yeah, he had 49, I think, the game before that.
And the other thing is, like, the rest of the team had basically nothing. I think Charles Oakley had, like, like 13 or 14 rebounds and it was like there was no one else who was doing anything on that team um like like I think I think it was like Charles Oakley had like a few rebounds or 14 13 rebounds and Orlando Woodridge had uh Woolridge had like 20 points or something but everything else was MJ It was like everyone else had two points.
The best way I can describe MJ is he was so good that if you rooted for him, let's say if you're outside of New York City, Boston, RLA, growing up anywhere in the United States back in like the mid-90s, and you just decided to become a Bulls fan because of MJ, nobody would make fun of you or call you a frontrunner They would be like, yeah, that makes sense that you're going to root for Jordan. That the Paris clips were incredible.
Like seeing people in Paris just going fucking bananas for, you know, basically a scrimmage and MJ going everywhere and wearing a beret. Also, Phil Jackson had the coolest like Indiana Jones hat ever.
He was fucking cool. Also, I love that sound guy just going all out for that autograph.
Yes. Yes, and the armband after the game.
He basically ripped it off MJ's arm. Oh, I didn't realize that was the same guy.
No, that was a player. He was like, can I keep it? And then Jordan made him take the armband off his own arm.
And then they go into the locker room. They got the trophy.
He's like, I don't care what you do with that shit. Just don't give it to Jerry.
The other things I wrote down. You don't celebrate an easy win in a press.
They were so mean. So mean to Jerry Krause at any turn.
Because he always just is like, Jerry Krause was that guy who's just like always kind of butting into conversations, if it felt like. You know what I mean? He's always just kind of yeah like you said maury from from goodfellas he's he's fucking maury and he's a combination of maury and and the guy in that infomercial that's carrying all those buckets out to his car and spills all of them over the hood of his car like that's that's cherry crest and who knows he might have been a sweetheart behind the scenes when he's maybe he was a good family man i don't know all i'm going off of is what i'm being shown in this documentary and uh i i can't get enough of how much i hate well in in in classic rindsdorf fashion which ended up being a good move but him being like yeah jerry kraus was a white socks scout for me and then he's like hey i want to be the bulls jam and he's like okay like what and he was like i asked everyone i asked everyone around they're like don't do business with him he's like well he was my guy so i went with him um the the only other things i wrote down were uh obviously that people were freaking out about how they had uh president obama and president clinton on and they both put like they put former chicago resident for Obama and former Arkansas governor for Clinton.
Stick to sports to the max. I loved it.
I loved it. Big time.
Bulls fan. Barack Obama.
It was so good. That's how you know him.
Basketball fan. Yes, you don't know him for anything else.
How about Patrick Ewing? So they interviewed him about that Georgetown-UNC championship game, and he's wearing the georgetown shirt i hope that they keep going back to patrick ewing and and interviewing about different times that jordan broke his heart and each time he's wearing the polo shirt of the like a different team like kobe he'll wear the knicks shirt when it talks about uh jordan just dominating the playoffs and back to a georgetown shirt when he goes back to then um i don't know if this is going to get to later on in Jordan's career

when he becomes a wizard and then after that when he owns the Charlotte Bobcats.

I really hope that it does because that will tie a nice little bow on the end.

I think that – so in the middle of it he said the best way to get Michael Jordan

to do something is to tell him that he can't do it.

I think enough people finally told him like there's no chance that you can own the Charlotte Hornets and succeed as their owner. And he was like, we'll see about that.
So he's still working on that one at the very end. The one thing from that first Patrick Ewing MJ game in the 82 finals, I wish they had shown the pass at the end because I don't know what the points, I don't think you look like, I tried to look up a point spread from 1982.
If someone has it, send it to me. But that was an all-time – like we would have lost our minds because they didn't show the whole highlight, but MJ hits the shot and then Fred Brown goes down and gets confused and it basically just passes it directly to a North Carolina player thinking that he's on his team.
Like almost like when you're playing pickup basketball and some and like the other team,

the guy's like, oh, pass it here just to fuck with you.

That's what it looked like in the fucking national championship game.

And I wish we had like I wish they had shown that because I was an all time.

If that had anything to do with the spread or anything, it would have.

I just think about that.

Like I would have melted down forever. Yeah, it looked like you were playing like with your buddies and and you didn't have jerseys or pennies on anything like that and you're like oh shit i thought that you were on my the guy was like right now the guy was being slow getting right right he's like here pass yeah yeah i also wish that they could just superimpose a three-point line onto the court and all that old footage just so that it looks kind of – it looks weird, man.
It looks like – it looks naked out there without a three-point line. Yeah, and then the – I guess the only other thing I had was the – that was a great story.
The MJ when he's playing golf with Danny Ainge the day before the game, which is hilarious in its own right. And he says to him, like hey tell tell tell your boy dj i got something for him tomorrow just like the the non-stop shit talking that mj does is just like that's why he always kind of had the mental edge on everything like he just never stopped like whether you're playing golf on an off day most people can relax he just he's just he's just not, he's like a psychopath, but in a good way, because it gets him everything he wanted and he wins at all costs.
Like people say win at all costs. They don't really mean it.
Michael Jordan meant it. Right.
I think that, that a problem is a lot of players after MJ decided to adopt the MJ attitude, but they don't really, they don't have the internal makeup that MJ does. They're not as good.
And so you end up just having a lot of assholes out there who can't back it up. And that's a problem.
But like, if you're, you're allowed to be as big a dickhead as you want, if you can back it up, like MJ always did. The, I think Kobe gets interviewed for this and that's the, you know, that's one of the biggest compliments you can say about Kobe's career you know outside of obviously all the the trophies he wanted everything but he was the closest thing to MJ after MJ in terms of that competitive mean streak win it all costs like I will do anything it takes to do it so it was an awesome awesome first I wish we had it every night like I wish they just – they just give it to us every night because I just want it right now.

Like, it was great to get it and then be like, fuck,

we have to wait a whole week for more of this.

And then week two is just going to be one hour, right?

They're going to play the second hour or whatever from this one?

They're doing two hours again next week?

Yeah, it's two hours every single week.

Thank God.

For five weeks.

Thank God.

Not 20 hours like Adam Schefter reported.

It's 10 hours long and it's two hours every single Sunday. Okay.
All right. Thank God Not 20 hours like Adam Schefter reported It's 10 hours long And it's 2 hours every single Sunday Okay alright thank God So we got 2 hours next week to look forward to You got 5 Sundays The only thing that kind of bums me out though Is that this whole thing was supposed to be released Every other night of the NBA Finals And that would have been like Sports nirvana To watch the Finals LeBron's in the finals and trying to like watch history and also watching history every other night.
Did LeBron tweet anything Hank? He did he did not. I set up alerts on my phone to see if LeBron was going to tweet.
He is conspicuous. He's smashing the hard button on perfect.
I would I would put a million dollars on him with like a lengthy Instagram post tomorrow that, that brings it all back to himself. Cause you know, LeBron wasn't, I don't think LeBron was interviewed in this.
Yeah. Why would he have been? Well, I mean like there was some of the, some of the guys, like, you know, obviously some of the guys who came after MJ were interviewed in it, but yeah, he was going to be, it's going to be LeBron wearing number 23 in high school.
And he'll caption it like, to the goat, Michael Jordan, this is why I decided to strive for greatness wearing your number 23. And then it'll be a slide thing where you can look at three other pictures of LeBron wearing 23 and dunking people.
Right, right. Oh, also Bob Costas.
Young Bob Costas is so fucking funny. It's great, too, because.
Seeing all these guys, all these old guys back in the day when they were like just trailing around people who were much taller than them with their little... And just the media, like them just doing like conducting business in the media, like straight up just being like Michael Jordan's being like, yeah, like if you're doing this for a business, like that's fucked up.
Yeah. The Bob Costas, like you know that Bob Costas puts on like three hours of makeup every morning to try to look like 1984 Bob Costas.
He's always chasing that. The other great quote from MJ was when he found out that there was like a 10% chance of him re-breaking his foot.
And the doctor said, well, if I gave you 10 pills and one of them would kill you, would you take one the pills and his answer was well it depends how fucking bad the headache is that's the competitive amazing yeah i mean it's the for the love of the game you know clause in his contract that's also that's where the jerry kraus like you can point to every spot they kind of did it you know the phil jackson jerry kraus beef jerry kraus basically being like 82 and oh and you're still not coming back. Pippen in his contract.
And MJ and Krause, their beef started there. Like, their beef started with Krause putting, you know, restrictions on his minutes and basically saying, don't be as competitive as you are and, like, don't go out and play basketball in North Carolina and play five-on-five when you're rehabbing.
That was, like, the kernel that, you know, ended up fully blooming into this final season where everyone hated each other. Well, everyone hated Jerry Krause.
But Jerry Krause, yeah, he started Trust the Process. But he was just, like, he didn't realize that he had a completed process in front of him the entire time.
Correct. Okay, let's get to who's back of the week.
Hank, why don't you start your who's back of the week? Sure. My who's back of the week is us, the internet, and us as a collective trying to figure out a way to boo Roger Goodell on Thursday.
It's something we've talked about, but I think it's Monday. The week is starting.
You're trying to look ahead, and it's like we've got to really figure it out and hone down on something solid that we can do. Okay.
Let's have a team meeting right now. How about that? Let's brainstorm.
Get some synergy. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Let me check my schedule. All right.
Yep. I'm in.
Let me hang on. Wait.
It's 322. Let me send you guys a calendar invite for 323.
Let me know when you get it. It sucks so bad.
Do you know what's been the worst, by the way? Hank, you click maybe. Hank, click yes instead of maybe.
As a side tangent, trying to get off the phone with friends and family at this point. How do you do it? Because you don't have anywhere to go.
That's it. Leroy's barking right now.
He's got to go outside. He's going to shit everywhere if I don't get off this Zoom call.
It's just becoming impossible. Someone needs to create something, some kind of emergency alert that comes to your phone while you're on the phone with your friends and family to get you out.
Because like I've gotten stuck in hour-long conversations. Like what are we doing here? Well, here's how you do it.
What are we doing here? You just never, ever use your professional account on Zoom to talk to friends and family. You always use the 10-minute trial that way.
Oh, wait, we're to go good seeing you yeah that's a good call all right ten dollars to talk to you for five more minutes um goodell okay what's our thoughts we have we've actually talked about this do we want to reveal what we've talked about we've got a couple we talked about like doing some of some of the photoshop like some of the videos would be funny just like adding adding boo audio to other videos but i'm trying to think of a way where we can really like i personally just want to be booing him okay so there are three three schools of thought that i have in mind number one you know how people like cheer out of their windows at seven o'clock every night and bang pots and pans at 8 30 or whenever roger goodell gets on the stage we all just go to our windows and we all just record ourselves booing out the windows's number one number two is yeah go ahead in in real time real time uh objection it that footage won't get out till till later it would come after the fact how can we do it in real time okay pft you want to go with two because the the idea that you had pft that i added on to i think is the solution the your. Your Zoom one, but then the Zoom-ception.
That's number three. I think that might be the strongest one.
Idea number two is one that Hank and I had discussed a little bit, which is the videos that are going viral of apartment complexes in Brooklyn all singing along to Biggie Smalls, to Juicy. Have you guys seen that? It's like a thing video where they just added in the track to Juicy and put like a big echo on it.
It made it sound like thousands of people were singing it. It sounded awesome.
It fooled all the internet out there. So what we could very easily do is just take footage out the windows of different apartment complexes and add fake boos on and be like, oh, wow, Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn right now is really letting Roger Goodell have have it and so we'd have that ready to go okay so the while that's a good idea i feel like bleach report's gonna do that idea so let's do three and let's talk about three out loud and how we organize three because that's the problem three is is your you had the idea of pft that we basically create a zoom where we invite a bunch of people and have them boo the problem is you can only invite 100 people to a Zoom.
So I was saying we should Zoomception it. And basically everyone – so we should pick 100 people that we will personally invite to our Zoom.
And those 100 people have to start their own Zooms where they have 100 people people and then they videotape their Zoom of a hundred people booing into our Zoom. That's a million people.
That's a million people. Now I'm confused because they're videotaping their own.
I think Big Cat's a little confused about it. No, I know exactly what I'm doing.
Yes. I it makes sense.
So it makes perfect sense. It would be a hundred boxes of a hundred.
Yes, of a hundred boxes. So someone calls it.
So we give every single person that we invite, give an invite to our zoom. We say you have to start a zoom and have a hundred people in it.
And then you take your phone and you come into our Zoom and you have your phone on your computer.

So our Zoom is 100 boxes of 100 and each box is 100 people.

I get it.

And everyone's booing.

Here's where I'm running into some trouble.

Blow your mind.

Is we're going to have to invite 100 people, right?

But it's going to have to be 100 people that we trust can also get 100 people into their own Zoom.

Well, it might not be 100.

It might be like 20.

I don't know.

They just have to start a Zoom and be like, get all your friends in it so that we can then multiply the 100. And if those people want to, if we want to keep going down, I think we could actually get to the center of the internet eventually.
Like, if we just keep doing Zoom, if of the 100 people in the 100 people get another 100 people and then they get 100 people, like, we will be at Bill Gates'step by the end this is great and what we should do is before this goes out i'm going to buy a long position in zoom i'm going to buy some stock in zoom knowing that we're about to is that insider trading i don't think it is because we don't work for zoom and we said it out loud and we say out loud so it's not insider and everyone else is going to have access to this information too just 12 hours later than us so So how are we going to do this? This sounds like a job for guess who can do this? Guess who can put this together? Jake. No, no.
Jake is too important to be doing something like this. One William Football has to be in charge of this.
And it will be up to him to have this be successful. And there's no way he's going to make this successful.

Doesn't Billy respect authority?

And we have an email set up.

It's not really Billy's, but we can use it for this cause.

PMT intern at BarstowSports.com.

I guess that will be the recruiting center.

If you – like you got to come forward and present evidence of how many people you can get on.

List all your friends.

They'll be like, I know. Actually, what would be great is if you're on like a college sports team.
All his frat brothers. That listserv right there.
Yeah. That would actually be given preference right now.
So if you're in a position where you have an email list that you can get people to sign up for, we'll think about recruiting you. Billy, I think my problem with Billy, though, is he respects authority authority a little bit too much he's a new york kid he's probably born and raised 10 miles from roger goodell i feel like his family and goodell's family might run the same circles his dad might be disappointed if billy is out there like organizing mass protests yeah but we but it's just we need to put him to work because if we're going to start paying him we have to to put him to work.
And this is the only way to do it. So otherwise, he's going to keep adopting random stray animals.
Somebody put a gift of Billy's face onto that lady when Trump got elected to just screamed up into the air. No, he's the leader of our protest.
But, you know, he's going to be like when we tell him this, he's like, all right, got it, guys. And then he'll just ask a billion questions right before we're supposed to go live, and none of it will work.
But here's the other thing. Now Jake has upgraded.
Jake can help him out. Jake will be the foreman of this project.
He'll project manage Billy, and we will be the owners of the company. All right, here's the other thing, though.
Here's a very important thing that we forgot. When you send your application to, Hank, where is it? EMTINtern at BarstowSports.com.
You must state which NFL team you root for because we need representatives from all 32 teams to be booing. So that's very important.
Very important. And we should also do one just for the Jets because the Jets are the kings of draft night booing.
We should have a separate Zoom for when the Jets make their pick. Well, that one, no.
Where it's just like a thousand different Jets fans booing. We can do idea two for the Jets.
Yeah, that would be good. Yes.
Yes. Perfect.
Perfect. All right.
I think we got it set. So send your emails if you want to be part of the greatest boo,

the greatest boo zoom of all time.

I think, I mean, are we the Guinness?

Yeah, it's the infinity boom.

No, I like it.

Yeah, infinity boom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like that or the infinity zoo.

Yeah.

And who knows what it is?

A little disambiguation for the people.

All right, Pete Harambe.

Yeah. All right, Hank, was that it?

Thank you. yeah and who knows what it is a little little disambiguation for the people all right p harambe yeah um all right hank was that it yeah okay pft okay that that was a good one hank my who's back

to the week is leaked wonderlick scores so uh on friday a bunch of wonderlick scores came out

and not only were they leaked wonderlick scores which is probably the most fucked up part of draft

season i don't know why people still report on these, but they were also incorrect leaked Wunderlich scores, which tells me it's smokescreen season for someone out there. Someone wants the rest of the NFL to believe that Tua is dumb because they gave Tua a 13 in the first Wunderlich score.
It's not true at all. That's not what he got.
He ended up getting, I think like an 18 or 19, which is not great, but it's not bad. And so there's somebody out there that's actively undermining Tua, not sure who he could be Nick Saban.
Uh, but for whatever reason, I don't know, maybe, maybe the dolphins are, uh, are scared that the Redskins are going to take them number two overall or something like that. And so they're putting these fake scores out there.

But it's funny because it goes back to NFL GMs are very fickle people.

They don't want someone who's really dumb,

but they also don't want someone who's smart enough

to realize how dumb their coaches can be.

So there's this Goldilocks zone of how smart you want your quarterback.

And I think it's anywhere between a 15 and a 35 in terms of your wonderland score can I ask you a question for the Redskins because you keep alluding to it you keep throwing out like do I want to or do I not it doesn't seem like the Redskins even are considering it are you will you be are you considering it at all well I am off and on it's but again like I don't know what the redskins actually i don't think they are i don't know i don't know what they think because like this is a new regime so i don't know what their moves are like how closely to the vest they play things but um now i'm back on chase young because i saw a report on friday that he is actually like lebron like his parents didn't stop growing until they were like 28 years old and so so he's like 6'5 right now. There's a good chance that he could end up being like 6'8", 6'9".
Every time they talk about it, he will get an inch or two taller and like five pounds heavier every time an announcer mentions him. So like, I don't know, Klaise Campbell is a pretty good pass rusher and he's like 6'9".
6'9", is like when you had Madden in 96 for N64,

and you could basically make everyone like 7 feet tall and 450 pounds

in 99 ratings, like just freaks of nature.

I don't know, 6'9", would be –

I feel like there's definitely a point of when you're a little too tall

for being an edge rusher that probably starts hurting you. mean too tall jones wasn't he pretty good yeah he was he was pretty tall hall of famer how tall was he might say he was campbell is like six eight yeah six eight so like he's probably six seven you'd be six because he always do that good pass rusher i don't know so i keep going back and forth to it just looks awesome throwing that football left-handed without got the stripes and it looked way cooler than I don't know.
So I keep going back and forth. Tua just looks awesome.
Throwing that football left-handed without the stripes on it

looked way cooler than he did in college.

So I'd go back and forth.

I'd be happy with either one.

But for me, it's mostly like if you get a quarterback, that's just fun.

That's just something that you can look forward to all season long.

It's like, oh, we got a brand-new toy.

And then by year two or three, once it actually starts to shake out,

it can get a lot worse or a lot better.

But I'd be happy with either one. Right now, I'm officially back on Chase Young.
Okay. My who's back is me because I'm going back on a diet, boys.
It's officially diet season. We're back.
And not only that, because I also – what are you shaking your fucking head at? It's a quarantine. I've gained like 20 pounds.
Okay. So it's time to get back.
It's time to get back. And also, I don't know if you noticed.
You're going to plateau and not gain any more weight? That would be great. Just put your finger in the dike.
Yeah. That's not.
No, that's a wall. That's a wall.
That's a wall. Shout out to you.
That's a wall. Is that not a wall? It is.
No, it's a dam is what it means. It means.
Well, but it's a dam and stop. That's the word for it.
Is it not? So what it is. Yeah, it is.
Okay. What I think we should do, because I'm sick of like all these weight loss challenges and weight gain challenges.
I suggested this to our good friend Coley last week. Why don't we do a weigh-in and just have a weigh-exactly the same challenge,

like down to the exact ounce and see if we can maintain our body weight through the rest of this quarantine, not gain or lose a single pound.

I think that's almost harder.

I would like to do that, but I would like to first take off a few pounds

because I don't know if you saw.

What about your vest?

Well, no, vest has been working.

I've been using the vest, but I've been eating like a fucking asshole. So I'm going to.
Your problem is that you've cultivated too much muscle. Yeah, probably gaining too much muscle.
And also, I don't know if you saw, but I took the offensive coordinator job at USC. So I'm going to be when you're in L.A., it's different.
Like you can't be fat. You can't be a fat piece of shit in L.A.
So I need to I need to lose weight. I'm going to do it.
Is Coach Doug's married? Yeah, but he never brings his family with him. He just leaves them every stop.
They're still in Toledo. I mean, that's smart.
He probably just sleeps in the office anyways. At the Applebee's.
But I'm going to... I need everyone to shame me.
So if they think I look fat, just be like, yo, dude, you look fat. I think you look better right now.
Which is not different than anything anyone ever does anyway. When you look really skinny, you look weird.
You're not going to lose any weight if you can't... There's nothing you can do more than what you're already doing.
Not eat. When you look really skinny, you look like...
But that's not going to happen. You're in your house for that.
It's like Penn and Teller, and it's not a natural look. I'm going to not eat.
I'm going to not eat. I'm not going to eat.
I'm not going to eat, bitches. You see this face? See his mouth? I just gave PFT the key.
I just gave PFT the key. I'm going to start eating more.
At some point, when things get back to normal, we should try to do a challenge where Big Cat and I meet at the same weight in the middle i'm down for it that would be legit hank too yeah hank yeah we all if we just become the two yeah the 200 club yeah i've tried to get to 200 i don't know i don't know if i can make it up dude if i can get down to 200 you can get up to yeah i can get up lose like 40 pounds i'd be so much better at the peloton if i had 200 pounds of weight to push down those things i would be like a i'd be like christian bale in the machinist i'd just be walking around you guys would be carrying me around from podcast to podcast but it'd be worth it for the last christian bale and veep and i just chug uh melted ice cream to get up to dick cheney weight yeah perfect um all right so let's do our interview with daniel j, draft expert. We ask him all the draft questions.
Pretty much a draft prep for everyone out there who might not be fully prepped. Oh, wait.
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It's a bargain hunters dream season right now. I'm very excited about going there.
Once it opens back up, I'm just going to be the first. I'm going to camp out like I'm waiting for concert tickets, HF Festival tickets back in 1999.
I'm going to camp out outside the Marshalls just so I can get a pair of Balenciagas for less than a thousand bucks. It's going to be sweet.
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Discover the craftsmanship behind every bite at boarshead.com okay we now welcome on uh daniel jeremiah he is an analyst for the nfl network writer for nfl.com he was a scout for the ravens the browns the eagles he knows everything about football he's got mock drafts I think you're on 3.0 right now. Thank you for joining us.
And let's get right into it. I want to know the thing that I think everyone's buzzing about.
What has happened in the draft circles that has now had Justin Herbert jump Tua in all the mock drafts? Is this smoke or is this actually something that you think is going to happen or is it agent talk? Well, I don't know. It's hard to tell between what's smoke and what's real, but I just know when talking to folks around the league that are dialed in with the Dolphins, they say they love Burrow as the top guy.
And then after Burrow, there's a split. So the one where I switched it up was a couple weeks ago.
And I said, okay, if it's split in the room with Herbert and Tua, Herbert's healthy. So maybe that would give the tie to him.
I don't think it's close. I have Tua as a much better player than Herbert.
But when you start hearing those things that it's kind of up in the air, I'm like, okay, well, maybe the health thing. And then all of a sudden, like it's coming from everywhere now.
And it's like, it's, you know, that's what makes that's what makes me nervous I'm like well maybe this is all it's too much like it's too much information about the Herbert stuff so when you do your mock draft let me back up real quick because I think that people sometimes get confused when we get into the mock draft season you're a lot of times predicting or no you are predicting what you think's going to happen not what you would do if you were drafting for these teams 100 i always explain it like i do my top 50 list how i rank the players with my eyes i do the mock draft with my ears so that's why i'm like cracking up like people get all upset about mock drafts and they're like dude you don't know i'm like dude i heard this from somebody in the league like you're not going to hurt my feelings if you don't like my mock draft i mean it, it's just what people are telling me around the league. I wouldn't necessarily do that, but that's what I think is going to happen.
Okay. So as far as the top of the board, I'm reading your mock draft right now.
You have Joe Burrow going number one. You've got Chase Young going second.
Is there any chance at all that the Redskins opt to go with Tua at number two? Are they dead set on Chase Young? I don't think so. I think the more likely thing would be they take Chase Young would be number one.
Number two would be they get it, which I wouldn't advise either. Like if you get a chance to get a premier edge rusher, just take him.
Don't trade out of that pick. Have a dominant defensive line.
You saw what the Niners did last year. Like that's the blueprint if you're the Redskins.
Just follow it. Don screw it up but I mean I you know I think there's a good chance Kyle Allen ends up beating out uh Haskins but I don't think they're going to take Tua I think if he was totally healthy no concerns I would be standing on the soapbox saying just take him like he's much better than Dwayne Haskins he's much better than Kyle Allen just take Tua but I think the injury kind of mud that up a little bit.
And when you've got a sure thing like Chase Young just sitting there,

just take him.

But I do want to tell you guys, speaking of Burrow real quick,

I went and visited with him up at J. Sarah High School in Orange County

to watch him work out and throw.

And you'll be happy to know that he was rocking your gear during the workout.

So he's representing.

Which shirt was he wearing?

Was he wearing the Coach Owen or was he wearing Joe Exotic?

It was a long sleeve. I think it was just the part of my take.
Nice. Gray, like a long gray sleeve tee.
That's good to know that none of the scouts around the league have knocked him down at all for doing the post-game national championship interview with us drunk. When we all were drunk.
So that's good to know. America was drunk.
Yeah, America was drunk. So it's good.
It's international waters. I want to jump back real quick to what you just said about doing the top 50 with your eyes and doing the mock draft with your ears.
What was the time? And I'm sure you can think of like the one time where your ears were deceived, where someone, the hype, the things you were hearing were all smoke, and you looked not stupid because everyone's doing mock drafts. It's hard to predict.
But the one time where it was totally different, and it was almost like everyone kind of bamboozled the entire industry of mock draft experts. Yeah, sure.
I can tell you a couple. There's a bunch of them that's jumped out to me they're usually quarterback related but i knew i had buddies on the the staff with the chicago bears oh and i had never mind actually no no go on go on this question turn big ass microphone off go ahead go ahead i regret this question so i had talked to him on the staff and i'm like hey um there's another person in the league that told me like the bears are going to take trubisky and i'm like i'm telling you like just tell me like if you don't know just tell me you don't know but like just just let me know one way or the other here and he's like dude i'm telling you go to the bank we are not taking mitchell trubisky that's not we're not taking him.
Like it's not happening, zero chance. And then they take him.

And I like, I'm on the draft coverage live. Like they're in a commercial.

I texted him like, dude, the world. He's like, no idea.
Like we literally had no idea.

There were so few people that knew that was going down.

So your source was John Fox because John Fox didn't even know when he was the

head coach at the time.

I think that, yeah, I think a lot of that stuff came out after the fact. But that was crazy.
Like, nobody knew. And then Caldwell, the year when they took Bortles, their GM is a buddy of mine.
So I'm talking with Dave, and I'm like, hey, let me go through the players you might pick. I've done it with him every year.
And so I'll get like eight players. So tell me, if you take this guy, when I'm on TV, TV I can explain why you took him so I over eight guys I don't know who you're going to take but I whoever you pick I can you know explain it so I get through a bunch of the list and nobody had them taking Bortles Bortles is going to go like in the 20s that's kind of what we all expected and then uh I get to ask about Bortles after I've asked about eight guys he's like hey oh oh I got, I got another call, dude.
I got to go. And he hung up on me.
And I didn't think anything of it. I was so dumb.
He didn't want to talk about the kid. And then, of course, they take him with the third pick.
So I called him the next day. I'm like, you didn't have anybody on the other line, did he? He's like, nah, I didn't want to.
I didn't trust my poker voice, so he bail between Mitch and Bortles this was the worst question

in part of my take history

because that sucks

Bortles is our guy

I can give you one more though

this would be a happy ending

Shane McClellan tell me about that

Shane McClellan was underrated

at Boise

Lamar Jackson I'll call my buddy who's a director of player personnel with the Ravens. So I worked with back in the day and he's got his son with him.
He's going to little league practice. So he's calling me.
It's like the week of the draft. I'm like, what's going on? You doing well? Yeah, I'm doing well.
What's going on? We're taking my son to practice. So I start asking about players and he's big and everything.
So I asked his son in the backseat. I go, Hey, what's going on? And he's like, Oh, hi, Mr.
Jeremiah. How's it going? I go, who's your favorite player in the draft? He goes, Lamar Jackson.
And I'm like, Frick, I should have known, man. He already let his son know that like this is going to be a Raven.
I should have seen the signs and I didn't, I didn't pick up on it. You should just start interviewing general managers, kids and they won't be able to keep their mouth shut.
Yeah. keep their mouths shut.
That's what we're going to do. I want to get to one of my favorite parts of draft season.
It's also anonymous scout season, so I love the anonymous scouts. I love all these reports.
I love it when, what's his name, Nolan Narocki would lead off the profiles by saying whether or not a player's parents were divorced or still married. I love all these rumors and scuttlebutt.

The leak that came out today was from an anonymous scout.

And he says that he has concerns about Mickey Becton because he loves to

cook and eat more than he loves frigging football.

First of all,

is that an issue for an offensive lineman to love to cook and eat?

Well,

I think we need to get more information on what he's cooking and what he's eating. I mean, I think that goes without saying.
I mean, he's, I don't know, I think it's so stupid. He's a great player.
He was heavy when he was early on in his career at Louisville. He lost a bunch of weight.
He's been training like crazy down in Dallas. I think it's silly.
You've got to put in your report the things that people tell you, but even if I was told that at a school that he loves to cook, I, I think it's silly. I, I, you've got to put in your report that the things that people tell you, but even if I was told that at a school that he loves to cook, I don't know that in eight years of scouting, I ever wrote in somebody's background that they love to cook.
Okay. Uh, no relevance for me.
Good to know. Now my theory on this one is actually that it came from the Raiders and then it came from Mike Mack.
This seems like a Mike Mayock thing to leak to somebody because they want to

be able to draft him. And so he's that's in Mike Mayock's mind.

That's him like slandering the player and having him drop a little bit.

I don't think it's going to work. I just want to say that for the record.

I don't think that he's going to be on the board with the Raiders.

I just know if,

if you could see all the reports from all the players in this draft that like

loves to cook would be rather low on the list of things that might concern you. You know i would love to say the worst thing about myself is that i love to cook yeah that's you know i'd be okay with that um all right this might be a difficult question to answer but i want you to scout the scouts and you were a scout when you were a scout and after that so now you're obviously on the other side like do you think that NFL scouting, they do a good job? What is their weakness? Because we all play armchair, you know, Monday morning quarterback, where we look back and we say, how could you do that? Do you think that in general these guys are doing a good job, or are there weaknesses that you see glaring year in and year out where they're just not doing X, Y, or Z? I would say they have less influence in the draft process than people realize, and that's really changed a lot.
So they're not as involved. And one of the reasons why there are anonymous scouts that go and talk to reporters is because a lot of them are frustrated because nobody's listening to them in their building.
So I've done all this work. I've traveled.
I've been away from home. I want to tell somebody about these guys.
So they go to the media and talk to them. So, you know, it's a hard job to figure these guys out.
No question. But I think some people kind of think it's the scouts.
And a lot of times this is this decision is getting made by the head coach, the general manager, and maybe the director of player personnel. And the scouts, we call a lot of them are information gatherers.
Just go out there. You're like glorified private detectives.
Go out there and get as much information on these players as you can and let us sort out whether or not they can play or not. It didn't even be like that.
When I started in 2003, scouting, you were in the draft room on draft day. You were a big part of the process of ranking the players, and it's not like that very much anymore.
Did you have to do any assignments? I uh when justin blackman was coming out they had somebody go to stillwater and hang out in a bar for the entire week and like make little tallies on their arms of how many times justin showed up did you ever get asked to do anything weird like surveil a player like stake him out or something there was uh there was a player coming out it was a corner i believe that had been in at an In-N-Out Burger out here about like an hour and a half from my house.

He went to high school like an hour and a half away.

And so they had to get to the bottom of what happened in this fight at an In-N-Out Burger.

So I had to go to talk to his high school coach by himself, talk to him, get his version.

He has two brothers.

They wanted me to meet with both brothers, but not at the same time because they want to see all the stories lined up. So I'm driving all over L.A.
to find out about some fight that happened in an outburst. It was like the most harmless thing.
Like it was no big deal at all. And that was like my moment where I had had some opportunities in the media.
And I was like, oh, man, I think I'm good. I think the scouting thing, I think I'm good on chasing out all this information like let's uh let's look and see what's out there in the tv world so knowing that what you just said which is very interesting that scouts don't really get heard as much as they used to are there specific teams that still do use a lot like they lean on their scouts more than the rest of the NFL like which teams really have uh you know like the flow of ideas really happen here and the GM is listening to everyone and not just making their decision and saying everyone else fall in line? Yeah, I think there's still some teams like that.
You know, Joe Douglas is a good buddy of mine. So we grew up together with the Ravens and I know that's the way he grew up in it.
So I know with the Jets that he's built his staff to try and be able to do the same thing there. The Eagles have really good staff.
I know they do some more of that. But I'm telling you, you could probably count on one hand the teams that really, really rely and have a lot of influence from their scouting.
It's just different, man. I'm looking at the logjam of wide receivers here.
And CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Judy, I don't know which one's going to go first, who's going to go second, but you have CeeDee Lamb going to the Jets and then Judy going to the Raiders. Is there any chance that the Ouija board that they use to communicate with Al Davis pops up and it says you have to draft Henry Ruggs because he ran like a 4-2? Are they going to stick with one of those two top guys that you said? I think there's a chance that rugs can be the first receiver to go.
I know I've talked to some teams that have them as a top receiver. So it just kind of depends on what you're looking for, what you have.
We talk about like, you know, you're receiving cords, like a basketball team. You want different sizes, you know, power forwards point guards.
And if you have a bunch of those bigger guys, you really need speed. Those are a great example um rugs to me makes the most sense for them they need speed they don't have any speed so that to me would put him above some of these other guys uh but the raiders i don't know i mean that would be tempting i'm hoping this goes to the niners because i want to see him with shanahan and his creativity to see what he could do with him.
That's where the perfect landing spot would be.

So speaking of wide receivers, everyone knows the story of this draft is that it is probably the deepest draft in terms of wide receivers. How do you think teams are going to approach this on draft night? Are they going to, one, say, all right, this is a deep draft, but once the run of receivers start, we've got to get ourselves in there? Or are you going to see teams really wait back and be like,

we can get a first-round talent in the late second round when it comes to the receiver position? I think it's going to be fascinating to watch because there's like five or six guys that are worth first-round picks. But because of the sheer number of them, I think there are some teams that are going to wait and say, you know, I love this guy, but I can wait and get a similar player in the third round this year.
So I think you'll see some teams approach it that way. But the top guys, like the top three or four, I mean, they're all the way up there for a reason.
And if you're the Raiders who don't have a legit number one receiver, the Jets don't have a legit number one receiver. I know Denver really wants to pair somebody up with Cortland Sutton.
So I think some of these teams are a little more motivated than others. So speaking of the Jets, and you mentioned Joe Douglas, who's a friend of yours, can you walk us through how you planted that story that you were being looked at for a front office job? Because that was, listen, you're smart.
Like if you're in the TV side, every five or six years, you need to get a story that you're thinking about going back to the scouting world to kind of keep you relevant. And then of course, eventually you have to do like the John Gruden or the Mike Mayock and be like, all right, let's do it.
We're going to jump it. I would imagine that's going to happen like in 10 years, but how did you plant that story? That was masterful.
Hold on. I want to say, I got to write this all down real quick here.
Figure out how I can do this. So it's, I should have, I should have then renegotiated my contract.
Yeah. Your timing was off on that one.
That would have been the play. Yes.
Okay. Yes.
Let me write that down real quick. That was stupid.
Do that in a contract here. And then you say, I'm going to go to the NFL.
They're going to pay me $4 million a year to be a general manager. But if you give me half that, I'll stay.
So do you, but seriously, do you talk to owners to get your name out there do you do the scouts like where what's the approach there i i i have uh zero contact with owners unfortunately if i can develop more relationship with owners i think that would be a good thing for a variety of reasons um but but i i am thinking now i've set the timer so this jets thing i think was last year yep so what do you think like every two years we get this no no no no two years means two years is thirsty that's desperate it's more like every four or five years just get your name in there for an opening job you don't have to take it but at least has people be like his his analysis is so good that a team wants to hire him yeah and it should be with a major a major market too. Like you don't want to just throw out that, you know, Tampa Bay is interested in you or whatever.
You want it to be like an L.A. team, a New York team, maybe even the Cowboys, maybe have Jerry Jones being like he wants somebody else that's not his son to boss around.
So the thing about bringing you in, they've got the purse strings, they can do it. So, yeah, there's definitely an art to this.
I'm just trying to think if we use like Schefter did that one. Right.
So you don't want to go back to the same guy. Correct.
That could get kind of dicey. My dog could do it.
Rotate it. Yeah, we'll rotate it.
Or we could leak it out there. Tell you what, I'm actually an owner of the Green Bay Packers.
So you could say Packers ownership has had conversations with Daniel Jeremiah about bringing him in as the front office. So you can actually report that legitimately now.
So I'm going to pencil you guys in for the four years from now. Done.
Okay. And then I've got to start working.
It's like the Olympics. I can just kind of treat this as the Olympics every four years.
Well, not this year, but most years you have the Olympics every four years. And then I can just coincide that with a leak.
And I'm just perfect. That's how you time it out.
So PFT just mentioned the Packers, your mock draft, has the Packers taking a quarterback in round one. So Matt LaFleur does hate Aaron Rodgers that much.
Well, I just think it makes sense for them. That's what they've done.
They've had a guy for like 15 years and then they draft a guy, let him sit for a couple of years and he goes on for another 15 years. and I just think it makes sense for them.
That's what they've done. They've had a guy for like 15 years, and then they draft a guy, let him sit for a couple years, and he goes on for another 15 years.
And I just think of that situation, how jealous you would be if you were a team like the Redskins who've been trying to find their quarterback for like 20 years, and now you get teams like the Packers that just have the same guy for like 15 years, hand it off to the next guy for 15 years, hand it off to the next guy for 15 years. It's actually been longer than 20.
It's been, I think, 30 years for the Redskins now. I don't want to compliment the Packers, but it is true that the worst time to look for a quarterback is when you need one.
So do you actually think that Jordan Love is worth a first-round pick? Do you have him up there with Tua, Burrow, Herbert? Maybe break down those four guys and who you think is going to have long-term success. Yeah, I have a couple tiers.
So to me it's Burrow and Tua in that top tier together. Then there's a pretty significant drop-off and you get to Herbert and Love.
And for a while I had Love over Herbert. Love's the most talented guy.
He's got the most ability of anybody. Like if you just want to watch somebody throw a football, he's the most talented guy, period.
But decision making is a major issue. Field vision is a little bit of an issue with him.
He needs time. He's going to need some time to develop.
That's why like if you're going to script it, it's go to Green Bay, sit behind Rodgers, go to New Orleans, sit behind Drew Brees. Like those are good, you know, offensive coaches and you're going to have time to develop there um so that's why it makes some sense for him but I have those other two guys I think Burrow is my second player two is like my sixth player and then I have uh uh I think Herbert's like 20 and Love's like 22 so that's like kind of the range of where those guys are what would shock you for how low like Love could go could he get into the mid second round or is it he's going to be scooped up in the first round because everyone knows getting that extra year on a quarterback is very important, as the Lamar Jackson thing shows? Yeah, I think Indy has two second-round picks.
So Phillips, 38 years old. I mean, that to me would be awfully tempting for them to just trade right back into the bottom of the first round.
You get Jordan Love, you don't have to play him, but you've got tremendous upside. So, you know, Ballard coming from Kansas City, you know, he saw the blueprint there of drafting a talented player and letting him sit and then off you go.
So that would be the team I would peg for him, and I don't think he would go beyond where they pick in the second round. Okay.
So is there a chance that once, let's just say Tua, Burrow, Herbert go off the board pretty high,

is there a chance that we see a run where teams start reaching on quarterbacks and they panic like we saw?

I forget what draft was that.

That was like the Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert maybe, Christian Ponder,

where people just ponder and they throw out their big board all together and they're like, we need a quarterback if we want to win.

If those guys go off the board early, are we going to see maybe a team in the teens or early twenties that reaches for love? I don't think so. Just because I think those teams all have guys they can line up and play with.
Not like they're in dire straits. We don't have anybody.
I think I froze there for a second, but they have, you know, the Raiders would be the team I would keep an eye on, but they went out and got Mariota. They already have Carr.
I don't really see that happening. I think we'll see three of these guys go, and then I think we're going to see Love drop a little bit.
The other thing that jumped out to me about your mock, and I've read a few different mock drafts here, almost every single one that I'm looking at has zero running backs going in the first round you don't think that there's going to be a general manager out there that looks at what the titans did last year and they think to themselves you know what we can zig while everybody else zags draft a really talented running back and then just run them into the ground for four years and try to win that way with a strong running game and a good defense are you pretty confident that we're going to have to wait until at least the second round for you know whether it's Jonathan Taylor or Swift to come off the board yeah I think Swift's one of the 20 best players in the draft so I think there's value there I think the whole conversation is whether you re-sign these guys not whether you draft them and if you can get five or six years of elite production I think it's worth a first round pick personally but just talking to people around the league, a bunch of people are saying, look, there's a pretty deep running back class similar to the wide receiver conversation that we had and that I like DeAndre Swift a lot, but I can wait and get somebody in the second or third round. I'll get a Cam Akers from Florida State and I can go get one of the premier positions in the first round.
So I think there's a good chance we don't see one, but I do think that Swift is absolutely worth a first-round pick. The team that I say don't sleep on and everybody kind of laughs about it is Baltimore because they run the ball more than anybody.
I know what you have in Ingram. They've got some other good backs, but this kid is really good.
And as much as they run it and what he can do, I would love to see him and Lamar Jackson for Jackson for the next few years yeah so I think one of the big draft stories that also is going to happen on draft night is is will the Patriots try to get a quarterback to replace Tom Brady I know they they like Stidham right now but do you see that happening at all where they try to trade up um I know that's very anti what Bill Belichick has done but have you heard any buzz about a guy they might like? No, I've heard they like Herbert, but I haven't heard any talk about them really being aggressive to trade up for him. And talking to buddies around the league, they've said Stidham is well thought of in that building.
I think he's more highly thought of in the building than maybe some people realize. They want to give him a chance.
You've got Hoyer kind of your insurance. You insurance.
If it doesn't go well with Stidham, he gets you through the year,

and then you could address it next year.

But I think they'll give Stidham an opportunity this year.

I don't think they're going to do it in the first round.

I wouldn't be shocked if they took somebody in the fifth round

or something like that just to bring somebody new into the building.

But it doesn't seem like Belichick to trade a bunch of assets

to go up and get somebody.

Right.

If we're looking at next year's draft class a little bit ahead of schedule schedule and obviously Trevor Lawrence, that's a big name that's out there. How would Trevor Lawrence stack up right now? If you were to put them up against Joe Burrow in the same draft.
Yeah. I mean, I haven't done a full workup on him, like the full study, but he's, he's a freak man is, is big and athletic as he is.
And he's kind of that like traditional quarterback,

what you want with all that ability,

plus all the athleticism that he brings with what teams are wanting to do

with this new school group.

So I think he's got more upside, more potential than Joe does.

You know, Joe is a little more polished at this time.

He's older.

He's ready to go right now.

But I think next year, hopefully we have a season,

but next year we'll be talking about Lawrence is possibly one of the best we've seen the last handful of years he's really talented yeah because that's what we're talking about is like there's a possibility that the patriots go with stidham a combination of him and hoyer they end up playing really poorly this year find themselves in a position where they could potentially move up to number one overall to draft trevor lawrence and then we're fucked for the next 12 years of the Patriots being great again. So that's, that's a scenario that we're trying to avoid.
I've got a question about the draft value chart. Our team's still using the same points chart that Jimmy Johnson, you know, he created one summer in key West when he had like seven daiquiris and just sat down and wrote a bunch of numbers and how they corresponded.
Is that still what everybody's is looking at the Bible for? Yeah. So I got it right here, man.
This is this, this is the same one, the Jimmy Johnson chart. So I, like I was talking with the GM the other day and we were talking about a potential trade, you know, then moving back in the draft and just everybody just kind of keeps this thing on your desk and like, okay, you want to go from here to there.
Okay. That's 700 points.
Okay. They need to give you their three.
They need to give you this. So most teams still operate off that same Key West chart.
I didn't know the back story there, though. I just made it up.
But, I mean, it's probably what happened. Yeah, in between Extend's commercials, he just jotted down a bunch of numbers.
It's so weird to me that people have just agreed that that's the accepted value. Are there teams out there that come up with their own charts and assign their own value to draft picks? Well, there's premiums you have to pay too.
So it's like, I know what the chart says, but like if I'm going to trade off an opportunity to get Chase Young, you've got to give me more than what the chart says you're supposed to give me. And that's where like the Bengals, I'm sure they've been offered, you know, if the Dolphins really want to burrow, I'm sure they can offer them well above what the chart says.
And I still don't think the Bengals would do it, but it is still kind of like the basic framework of, uh, of the discussion that that's, you know, it's kind of weird, but that's just what they use. So I got a question about the bears.
Uh, I, so I think this is actually kind of correlates to your career in, when you were with the Browns 2007-2008. Phil Savage is the GM.
He knows that he's probably at the end of his road there, which ends up being the case. You guys don't have a ton of draft capital.
What was the strategy going to that, and how does that relate to, I see the Bears not having a first-round pick. Ryan Pace knows this is an important draft.
is there a sense of urgency where you then start ranking guys like who can help me write this second versus who can be maybe a project that's a year or two out yeah because you know in that year they had traded Phil had traded for Sean Rogers and Corey Williams like all all these picks for players that was the only draft I was there for was We didn't pick until the fourth round. And so you're like, okay, we need an inside linebacker to start for us.
So you're locked in on this group of players and you get kind of picked clean. You end up reaching for a player who I say we reached for him NFL-wise, phenomenal arena career for Bo Bell, but probably shouldn't have picked him in the fourth there in Cleveland.
But that's what you do you start getting real need conscious at that point in time and I think you can make some mistakes yeah so do you think that uh the Bears like just hearing around the league do you think that Ryan Pace feels the pressure do you think that this is a draft that he needs to knock out of the park uh knowing that the Trubisky pick didn't go well and And if the Bears kind of falter here again, it could be heads starting to roll at Halas Hall. He needs the quarterback position to produce this year.
So whether that's Trubisky to justify that pick or whether that's Nick Foles to justify what you paid to get him, you have to have better production. Hopefully, you know, there's got to be an acceptable level of wins, but I think even if they weren't, you know, making a deep playoff run,

if they solved the quarterback position with one of those two guys,

I think it helps them, you know, going forward to make their case to stick around.

If they don't win a bunch of games and they don't play better at the quarterback position, that's it.

So they've got to get that figured out.

Yeah.

Can you give us a player like, you know, back in the day, Mel Kuyper said that he would walk away.

He would retire from his gig as draft analyst if Jimmy Clawson did not become a starter in the NFL. Can you give us a player that you will stake your entire reputation on? Whew.
No, but I'll give you one that I would take a pay cut for. Can I do that? Yeah, we'll take that.
Big time. Well, the pay cut will go to us.
You're not gonna like take less money you're just gonna pay us if you get it wrong that's fine i just asked for a t-shirt um i'll go uh put my paycheck on let's go you know look if it's really gonna be my paycheck i would say chase you um but i can go i can go outside the top group there and give you another guy who I think is going to be really good. Yeah, let's do that.
Let me see here. You know what? I think I'll say the linebacker, Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma, is just going to be a really, really good player.
His wiring and intelligence, competitiveness, all that stuff is off the charts. So when you get an athletic freak like that who's a leader and really smart and instinctive, all that stuff, he's just got too many things lined up for him not to be successful.
So I'm not going to specify how much of a cut we're talking about here. It's a cut.
Yeah. Yeah, it's enough.
It'll put a new picture on the wall behind you. I think that's – I can promise you we go okay um can you go rapid fire real quick on uh just each position just say strong or weak because we know the wide receivers are strong uh so just go throughout the entire uh you know roster of strong or weak in this draft so that if people were looking for like a crib sheet of what what to expect they can go off of.
Cool. I'll go quarterback is – I'll go strong.
I feel like you've got the guys up there at the top. Running back, very strong.
Receiver, extremely strong. Tight end, weak.
Tackle, strong. Interior offensive line, weak.
Defensive tackle, strong. Edge rusher, weak.
Linebacker, I thought was weak but is actually strong, cornerback, strong, safety, strong-ish. Okay.
So it's somewhere in the middle. That's actually very helpful because, I mean, I think even like what comes out, I'm noting there is like the defensive edge rushers.
Everyone's obviously looking for those guys, and this isn't going to be that draft. That's why you're going to see some of these guys get elevated.
I like Caleb Von Chason from LSU. He's like my 25th player.
He could be a top 15 pick because teams are just desperate to try and find some edge rush, and it's going to push those guys up. Nice.
What about Edward Zolaire from LSU? Just watching him as a fan for the last year, especially I think the Texas game, I saw some stuff out of him that I thought he would be a no-doubter first-round pick. I think he's going to be a great NFL running back.
Is there any chance that he might be the first guy off the board at the running back position? I think there's a chance. He's my second running back.
I love him. And some people freaked out that he ran 4'6 flat.
I'm like, it's the exact same time that Josh Jacobs ran last year. And look what he did in the league is he jumped like 39 and a half inches.
So he's explosive. He just didn't, you know, he didn't run a fast 40, but he catches ball extremely well.
He's the best pass catcher in the draft as a running back to me. Like if I was going to handpick for a team, Tampa Bay in the second round to put that dude with Tom Brady, Tom Brady's always had that type back and now you get a chance to get this kid there that would be the perfect spot for him here's a little spin zone you can use when you want to elevate a running back that is maybe not that fast in the 40 time you can say sometimes at the running back position it's more about how quickly you can stop than how quickly you can run and he's got great breaks go.
Yeah, no, absolutely. And he's like 5'7".
He's a little dude, but he's strong. I don't remember a running back ever going into Tuscaloosa and doing what he did to Alabama's defense.
Like, as great as Joe was in that game, Edwards O'Leary put on a show. Yep.
How nervous are teams having to deal with, like, the practicality of doing this on Zoom, doing it remotely? Like, do you think the teams are going to have a good handle on this or are we going to get some hilarious fuck-ups on draft night i mean look i'm 42 so like all my buddies that i talked to at that level are all kind of similar age so i don't think that the computer scares them quite as much. I think they're fine.

And I don't think what people realize on the first round,

the concern is with the trades.

Well, on the first round, before the draft, you've called every team and said,

okay, if I'm the Cowboys at 17, I've called every team that picks in front of me,

and we've had the conversation of, hey, if you wanted to trade out

and we wanted to trade up, what would that look like? And you kind of lay the groundwork of what that compensation would be for every team. Now, the likelihood that they want to move out and you want to move up, that's not clear.
But if that does happen, you don't pick up the phone and say, okay, here's what we're going to offer you. We pick up the phone and say, okay, do you want to do it? Like we've kind of already talked about this stuff.
Do you want to do it? Yes or no. Um, so that eliminates some of the time you need to, to get that processed.
That makes sense. Um, outside of Tua, is there a player whose injury history is going to make things like a real crapshoot, make them a real risky pick considering that teams can't go in and have their own doctors evaluate them? Yeah, there's, there's a bunch of guys.
Um, you know, I hate, I don't want to say a bunch of them like a guy like uh you know terrell lewis from alabama his uh has had some injuries in his past he's he's really talented um but i think teams would have liked to have the opportunity to do a little bit more with him medically than they got a chance to so i don't think it's going to go on draft or anything like that but it can penalize you a little bit and cost you with some teams um some teams are conservative this year because they haven't got as much medical and other teams like man this is a great opportunity i hope these other teams fail these kids they're going to fall right to us and we're going to get them so uh teams looking at it both ways yeah all right my last question it's the most important question we have uh does hand size matter oh i would say there's an acceptable level. I put it maybe a little bit lower.
It's right at nine. You know the word.
It's nine. You get to nine.
You're nine, you're golden. Yeah, you're under nine.
You're under nine. It's a concern.
But people laugh at that all the time, but it is what it is. You'd much rather have them have big hands, But as long as they're nine, I'm good.
That's exactly what we say all the time. It's crazy because like most things on the internet, the pendulum swings so far one way or the other where it's swung to the point where it's like people mock hand size.
But at the end of the day, I would imagine you'd rather have a guy with 10-inch mitts than a guy with 8-3-4 or whatever it may be. No doubt.
I mean, it's just what your preference would be, especially when you're talking cold weather and fumbles and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, if a guy has – I've seen guys with, you know, 9-inch hands.
They've never had any fumbling issues. They can control the football.
They throw a tight ball. Like, you know, there's other guys you watch and I'm like, gosh, like I watch him throw it.
It looks looks like he's throwing a medicine ball. His hands look small.
He's dropping the ball. And then all of a sudden you get the hand measurement.
It's eight and seven eights. And you're like, well, yeah, that's a legit problem.
We could see it when we watched it on tape. Right, right.
Who are your top five long snappers? I know you've done a lot of research on that. You know what? I like to keep that close.
We're trying to get big broadcast numbers it's a joint affair with nfl network and espn this year and for me to release my long snapper ratings at the draft it's just that's not in the in the best order there you gotta say yeah you gotta save like that's a tease that's what we call the business so i'm looking forward to tuning into that how's that going to work by the way i know you're not allowed to tip draft picks this year but but are you doing a joint broadcast, so you're on the same set as like Trey Wingo and all those guys? I'm here. I'm like right at home.
So Wingo's going to be in Connecticut, and then everybody else is on remotes. So we're all at home.
So you think Wingo's going to kick it to other people, like ESPN people, instead of kicking it to you because you're at the rival? It's like an all-star game, like get iced out in the uh in the all-star game or he might just like wear you out in the first 20 minutes and go we're going all jeremiah yeah what what if wingo only goes to me on special teams players yeah that would be fucked up are you gonna are you gonna have like a gatorade bottle underneath your table so that you can take a piss during it mel kuyper doesn't piss during his what is this we got a bucket you're gonna piss in that no it's a it's a water it's a hydroflask for water yeah i know but you should probably think about that because like what if wingo calls you and you're in the bathroom that's a great point i've got it i've got to i've got to think this thing through a little bit more yes yes um all right daniel jeremiah thank so much. We'd love to have you on anytime.
You're a recurring guest now and we appreciate it. Rasil is going to be pissed that we had you on because he's kind of your guy, but that's fine.
We can deal with the fallout from that. We should have you on immediately after the draft to give grades to every team before we ever get to see the players play.
That's my favorite part. That is so much fun.
By the way, if I had video and you could have seen Mayock who would flip his lid because we would just finish the draft and they go, all right, this is the last segment. We've got to hand out some draft grades.
And he literally would be like, not happening. He refused.
He was like, I'm not doing it. I like it.
And I'm like first or second year, and I'm like, I'm just trying to keep my job. I've got four.
Like, I don't know, B plus? Yes. Perfect.
All right. Well, thank you so much, Daniel.
We really appreciate it. Everyone go follow him on Twitter.
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Okay, let's get some segments.

Then we have Billy's Deep Dive and a Mount Flush for that as well.

First up, we have TakeQuake.

We actually have two TakeQuakes. So I saved the one I was going to do for who's back for the Takequake season.
PFT, we'll start with yours, and then we'll do mine. Takequake me.
Okay, this comes from our good friend, longtime stoolie Susan Slusser in the San Francisco Chronicle. She wrote an article about spitting in baseball and how the coronavirus should lead baseball to outlaw spitting because it's an infectious disease nightmare.
You got the pitcher licking his fingers, touching the ball, throwing it to the catcher, catcher taking the ball out, throwing it back, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We all know that spitting is just as big a part of baseball as all the other big parts like sacrifice bunts, steroids, you name it.
It's ingrained in the DNA of baseball. I just want to say I respect the fact that somebody is using this crisis to try to get spitting out of baseball, but spitting needs to stay.
It's the only place in America where a guy can just go outside and spit nonstop for like 30 minutes at a time and nobody says shit to him about it 30 minutes like four hours and and the and it's not even like the game of baseball get get 50 guys put them in the middle of a field and have them stand around they're all going to start spitting that's what you do in the middle of a field like there's nothing to do but spit in fact isn't it better to be spitting all your germs out if we're looking at this from an infectious disease point of view i think it's better to be it's like if you have a handgun and you're constantly firing off rounds into the ground you're way less likely to accidentally shoot somebody right so that we should actually be encouraging more spitting in baseball and other sports also if you're in san francisco i think that you need to take care of your own house before you start looking elsewhere because you've got a guy just down the street in Steph Curry that's got a walking Petri dish in his mouthpiece that he's throwing all over God's good creation when he's on the court. So maybe you talk to him before you bring it into America's pastime.
And if they outlaw spitting the players and the managers and stuff, we're going to realize how boring the actual game is. They have nothing to focus on on the bench the bench.
That's my favorite thing to do is to be watching a live baseball broadcast and to bet on how long it's going to take at the most in between times that you see a guy spitting. Usually it's only like three and a half seconds.
It's crazy that they would ever think that whatever this woman is wrong, even though she's been a long time listener. All right.
My take quick that I have, it might one up this one because we had Jim Harbaugh had his comments where he was talking about like the coronavirus and everything that's going on. And he talked about how we we talk about this is quote.
We talk about sanctity of life, yet we live in a society that aborts babies. There can't be anything more horrendous he took a little uh turn there at the end of his coronavirus statement but here from steve king in iowa who's uh i think a politician right i believe so yeah he said listener yeah loosely he said jim harbaugh uh beats ohio state every time when the score is on the values imparted to those he leads all right there we There we go.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You think that's good that we're doing scoreboards on the values and not actually on the football field.
But then he went on to say maybe not a national championship, but a culture that champions the value of life. I love that.
Jim Harbaugh has gotten his dick kicked in by Ohio State year in and year out. But if we're only judging on the values imparted to those he leads, he has dominated this rivalry.
Yeah. And he's very consistent in the fact that he doesn't like to have high seeds eliminated, whether that be inside a wound or on a football field.

So good for Jim.

Michigan fans, knowing Michigan fans,

they're definitely going to count this as a national championship.

Hang the banner.

They're going to be like, well, here we go.

It's just the same as when we beat the Detroit YMCA in 1904.

Well, yeah, I mean, Urban Meyer and Ohio State is the Detroit YMCA of morals. Correct.
Putting together a program that you can set your clock to in value. You had some harsh words about you, Ohio State, yesterday.
Well, Ohio State offered me the offensive coordinator job. I'm not about to go coach for Urban Meyer and then let him throw me under the bus every time we lose and leak all my text messages and basically make me the, you know, scapegoat for everything that he wants to do.
That's morally corrupted his university. Other than that fine guy.
I, I actually have been thinking about urban Meyer and I think that's very odd. Well, yeah, it's, it's truly odd.
I think he is the shadow football coach at Ohio State University,

the Ohio State University right now.

I don't think he ever really left.

I think that he's still got like a back entrance to the place

and he's still calling most of the shots.

Yeah, I don't believe that this is Ryan Day that's totally taken over

and had the exact same amount of success that Urban has had.

I think that Urban just refused to walk out that door permanently, but he's like, what i'm gonna say that i'm doing it for my family i'm gonna go on tv i'm gonna plant little negative stories about our opponents and just like do a little bit of undermining across the board in the ncaa and then in the meantime i've still got the bat phone that i'll pick up and i'll help you guys when it comes to the install meeting. They did show them right before that interception that ended the Clemson, Ohio State national semifinal game.
It's crazy to just think back about sports. I was like, wait, when was that game? What was that game? Oh, yeah.
Okay. All right.
Let's look forward to. Yeah.
No, I'm looking forward to right now. I just get excited when i get to smell a different room or a room that's slightly off from the room that i've been sitting in i mean last dance we're recording this before the last dance but the that's the only thing like i woke up today very excited for that yeah i mean it's pretty much for me it's that and and game days for dougs game days for dougs do feel different in my household so but that's pretty much it.
It is 420 today. It doesn't even feel like 420.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
True. See? True.
That's my dad. Happy birthday.
It's the day before 420. Oh, nice.
You got a call? All right. Let's do our Mount Flushmore.
Ready? Yeah. All right.
We'll do a Mount Flushmore toppings. Hank, you are starting because it is Monday.
Are you ready to go? I'm ready to go, although I will say you kind of pulled a hezy hay. No, you just took a shower.
Like, that wasn't a hezy hay. Big Cat is disgusted.
And I agreed that the hezy hay was only put into place because it would be a better Mount Flushmore to do in person because it gets a little complicated. Which we'll do on Tuesday.
And then you got out of the shower and you're like, oh, my God, I just wrote down my whole mouth flush more. Oh, I didn't write anything down.
I was in the shower. I know that was the joke.
I mentally wrote it down. Anchovies.
Okay, good pick. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
In honor of anchovies, I'm going to find that Revell tweet. Yeah.
Go ahead, go ahead, PFT. What were you going to say about anchovies? It might be controversial, but I think that anchovies are not that bad.
That's a try-hard move by you. That's not controversial.
It's not a try-hard move. Here's why it's not.
Anchovies only get a bad rap because of cartoons. You were told from a young age, Oh, anchovies gross.
I'm the Ninja Turtles. You put anchovies on my saw? Bro, Splinter, not cool.
That's actually not at all. Anchovies are delicious, delicious.
No, they aren't. See, that's the try-hard move.
No, they just taste like salt. The anchovies are gross, dude.
Are you master Splinter? What's good? You don't like the Ninja Turtles? No, I'm saying the Ninja Turtles we use as propaganda to try to get you. No, it's correct.
Yeah, it's correct. Not do cool crimes.
And number two, not eat anchovies. No, I think it's more about the thing that they're gross than the Ninja Turtles.
Do you like Caesar salad? Not with anchovies. Caesar dressing has anchovies in it.
Okay, that's the flavor. That's different.
I don't want little fish on my fucking pizza, dude. It has nothing to do with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
This is a try-hard move. Anchovies are the worst in Spongebob.
Great pick. It's not a try-hard move.
I'll give you this. Anchovies, when they have the heads and the eyes on, yeah, that's not cool.
But if it's just like the meat, yeah, it's great. It's good.
I'm telling you. What do you order with anchovies? What do you go out of order with anchovies? Whatever he's about to say is going to be a tryhard movie.
No, it's not a tryhard movie at all. Go ahead.
Say it. It's the first time you go to a pizza.
You go to a pizza. You go to a pizza place and you get anchovies on your pizza.
I do it probably one out of every 15 times I order pizza. So it's not like an every time thing because I'm not trying to show off or be a tryhard and be like, look what I like.
But it's nice to have as a change of pace every now and again. If I see anchovies like mixed into a pasta, sometimes I'll order that.
But it's not like I go out of my way to tell everybody, oh, I love anchovies. I am just a believer that there's been a tremendous propaganda effort against anchovies and sardines for most of my adult life and i just want to speak out in favor of them i want to use my platform noted yeah yeah very much noted um all right i can't find this fucking tweet i don't know what i think he deleted he might have deleted it because he's what was the gist of it it was essentially like a little life hack for everyone who's going to be a freshman this year.

When you order pizza to your dorm room, get anchovies on it so no one will take a bite.

It's like, yeah, that's a really good way to also not have any friends.

And I want to say I would never do anything like that.

That's not the type of anchovy order.

I'll do it like on my own every once in a blue moon. I would never request anchovies on a pizza in a group order.
All right, PFT, your first pick. My first pick, I'm going to go with raw onion.
Just raw onion on a burger. It doesn't matter if it's red or if it's white onion.
It can overpower the entire rest of dish yeah I agree with that it's also like a lazy that's usually like a sign of a shitty sports bar burger like lazy just throw it on top like a thick ass one it's also just like how much better are caramelized onions than raw onions it's significant it's infinity so it's like do we do a little bit of work here and make

them infinity better yeah even grilled onions um all right my first two i get two uh i don't i've never met anyone who likes this and i hope no one likes it but artichokes are disgusting i don't know what the fucking artichoke is yeah but i have that artichoke oh pft all the time what cartoon of our childhood

changed our mind

to think artichokes were gross?

You're not going to budge me off my anchovy steak.

And my anchovy steak is not that wild.

But you gave me a little side eye with artichokes.

No, I was just thinking to myself, like, spinach artichoke dip is good.

But that's not artichokes.

Artichokes on a pizza is disgusting.

Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that.

I agree with that. Yeah, as soon as you start doing dips, because, like, also dips, every dip, when you're like, oh, yeah, the spinach artichoke dip is good.
It's, like, probably a shitload of butter or cheese or something in it that makes it good. That's the good part.
All right. Shout out to Scottsdale Community College, though.
They're the artichokes, and I have one of their shirts, and I love it. Hank, we were going to say something negative about or positive about artichokes weren't you no that's what I was gonna say I just I have this I have that Scottsdale community college artichoke shirt and it's it's it's lasted me like four years I can't get rid of it have you guys ever done this my second pick uh already the artichoke shrimp on pizza on pizza is disgusting.
Disgusting.

Oh, but it's good as a cocktail?

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Okay, interesting.

I've definitely tried it being like,

ooh, this could be interesting,

and then you're like, wait, that was a bad idea.

Hank, you don't understand.

When it's in a cocktail, there's tomato sauce that goes with it.

Totally.

You like shrimp on your pizza?

No.

Okay.

Absolutely not. That's interesting.
Shrimp cocktail is great, though. Shrimp cocktail is delicious.
Delicious. But you need...
Whatever. Wait, wait, wait.
That proves my entire point that you need the sauce. That proves my entire point.
No. A shrimp cocktail without the sauce would be disgusting because without it, it would just be a topping.
No, it's the texture of shrimp on pizza is very disgusting. It's like the cheese and the shrimp together just don't work.
It's cheese and shrimp. I wouldn't have cheese and shrimp.
Wait, wait, wait. Is this pizza toppings or just toppings? Toppings, but it's pizza toppings for this one.
You're being very specific with your – Okay, well, I'm saying a pizza topping. He's saying shrimp on pizza as the topping.
What do you want?

Shrimp on what?

Who's that dog?

I've never heard a dog on this floor in my life. Did you kidnap a dog?

No.

This is very contentious.

PFT, your second pick.

My second pick, I'm going to go with alfalfa sprouts.

Sprouts in general on a sandwich.

It's like you're flossing with pubes. Gross.
The Jolly Green Giant. Yep.
Really disgusting stuff. Gross.
I agree. Good pick.
Thank you. Hank.
I will go with jalapenos. Jalapenos.
What? Come on. I'll give that to you because you have the palate of an infant when it comes to spice.
So if it's too spicy, I understand. If I ever get something and I fucking have a bite of a jalapeno that I didn't expect, I get so mad every time without fail.
If you like hot sauce or whatever the fuck you freaks like, get it on your own. It shouldn't just be like thrown onto nachos.
Like if you've ever had a nacho and you're not expecting a jalapeno and then you got jalapeno bombed, terrible. Terrible experience.
What about the different hot sauces at Taco Bell? What's the highest that you'll go in those? Zero. They're all great sauces.
Don't get me wrong. Mild, medium, and hot.
Fire sauce. Everyone loves the fire sauce.
Not me. The food is good enough where you don't need sauce.
There you go. All right, your third pick, Hank.
Fried egg. What? On pizza? Wait, on what? On pizza, on a burger.
Oh, the burger's the wrong choice. Fried egg on a burger's awesome.
It is incorrect. No, you're incorrect.
No, you're incorrect. No, you're incorrect.
I do think that the fried egg on the burger has gotten overused recently where they just start putting it on stuff. But it's still really good on like a hangover burger where you have the yolk a little bit runny.
Bite into it. It makes you feel like it's breakfast, lunch, and dinner all at once.
Delicious. All right, PFT, your third pick.
My third pick, I'm going to go with... We've got to stop doing food ones.
Mushrooms. Mush gotta stop doing food ones mushrooms mushrooms not a fan of mushrooms as a topic i'm okay with mushrooms it's kind of a give or take i yeah i i whatever they're like a whatever thing i you know they're one of the only toppings that'll eat around on a pizza um all right my third pick i think hank's gonna hate this Actually, I have two that Hank might hate.
Gummy bears on ice cream. Disgusting.
They get so hard. Yeah.
When you go to, like, frozen yogurt bars. What are you doing, Hank? Hank's mad.
Hank knew he was going to be mad. Do you like the gummy bears on ice cream? Of course I like gummy bears on ice cream.
What do you mean? They get so hard. The consistency of a gummy bear is completely ruined when it's put on ice cream, and the flavors never match up.
No, but then you have the ice cream, and then the ice cream melts away, and then you get the nice, savory taste of a gummy bear. No, it's not savory.
That's not what savory is. But you do get the taste of the gummy bear.
Also, if it's a rock hard gummy bear, it makes you work for it a little bit longer. It's like you have to chew it.
You loosen it up a little bit. You get a jaw with that in.
I don't mind it at all. I hate it.
You just said you didn't like it. A gummy bear on frozen yogurt? Yeah.
No, I said I do like it. You like that? Okay.
Every time I order frozen yogurt, it's gummy bears on there. No, I have one one that you're really gonna hate um and i've tried it many times and i can't i just can't get into it animal style sauce on fries in and out i don't hate that one okay all right i don't get animal style i think it's i think it's wildly overrated i really do i think i the animal sauce on the burger okay like that adds something that adds something.
The animal sauce on fries, I think it just becomes disgusting. And you're like, what are we doing? We're eating, like, a bunch of soggy fries.
And then the bottom is, like, untouched ones. Too much audience.
Yeah, I feel like people don't eat the whole. Like, people order that as, like, a high.
Like, they show up high. Like, oh, let me get animal style.
Hell yeah. And then you have, like, three bites and you never finish.
It's a cool hipster thing to do. Everyone's like, you got to animal style on fries and then you get it you're like wait who decided that this was a good idea cali teens did and then every regular person gets it and they're like this is a bad idea if you're throwing a pickup on the gram and you have like the burger with the animal fries next to it like that that looks dope if you don't have if you have plain fries everyone will comment dude you got to get animal style it's like dude i want to actually enjoy my fries after the first bite okay all right that's my fourth pick uh my last one i'm gonna go with homemade ketchup or house made ketchup if you're at a restaurant and they have like a burger or fries or something like that and you ask for ketchup and they make it themselves i just i can't stop thinking all i all no all ever want is Heinz.
Heinz will never be topped in terms of how they, how they've created the perfect ketchup recipe. It's sweet.
I know it's got all this processed shit in there and preservatives. They're probably going to make me die 25 years earlier, but guess what? I would rather die on my feet than, uh, die also on my knees eating inferior ketchup.
I think that can be good sometimes.

If you go to a really nice place, they can do some bomb ketchup.

It's such a crapshoot.

I have never had ketchup where I think to myself,

this is better than Heinz.

Hank, your last pick.

I mean, I wasn't going to say this, but PFT just kind of reminded me,

and I might as well just get it out there since people seem to be very upset

with my food taste in general. But just ketchup, period.
You just cucked PFT just kind of reminded me and I might as well just get it out there since you know people seem to be very upset with my food taste in general but just ketchup period you just cocked

ketchup is disgusting anyone like it's it's a mask it's the same as buffalo sauce if you need

to have ketchup like people that eat ketchup get addicted to it and they're like I need to have

pizza but I need to have ketchup there is hot dog but I need to have a ketchup I need to have like

chips but I need to have ketchup it's just it's a dog, but I need to have ketchup. I need to have chips, but I need to have ketchup.
It's a mask. It is an addiction.
I agree. You become a ketchup addict.
People are weird about it. I only use ketchup for french fries.
That's it. It's the ketchup pizza people that scare me.
It's like, you don't need ketchup for this. I've never seen ketchup on pizza.
No, they dip it. They dip it.
People dip it. I've got some Midwestern bias against ketchup because of the the whole hot dog thing and i actually think hot dogs can be good with a little bit of ketchup on it i'm not ashamed to it it just overpowers the taste that's my thing with ketchup and that's i mean i do like it on french fries because i don't know i just like it on french fries but i i think it overpowers i i i won't say that like if you put a little ketchup on a hot dog it doesn't it won't totally ruin the the hot dog, but I think you can have a better hot dog without ketchup.
Plain hot dog, chaser bun, you're good to go. There you go, chaser bun, baby.
All right, what do you guys think about olives? I hate olives on pizza. I used to hate olives, but in the last five years, I don't know.
I just like them now. It's weird.
And then Baco's, the fake Baco, they're like soy, but they're bacon flavored. Those things are disgusting.
They should be good because you're like, oh, my God, it's just bacon in a can, but it's not bacon. I had bread and butter pickles.
You always get disappointed when you bite into those and it's not the kosher dill. So you're saying pickles are trash? No, bread and butter pickles are not good.
All other types of pickles are awesome. I'm a pickle fanatic.
Vegemite. Vegemite is just garbage.
I know a lot of Australian people out there will disagree with that, but you know that it's trash too. You just have convinced.
It's like the Skyline Chili of Australia. The other one that I was considering considering but it's not really a topping is oh is uh is just cold butter on bread that's not really a topping because it's butter but that just drives me i'm i am that's probably my my like if someone has cold butter at their wedding or like some kind of banquet i immediately just hate them forever forever it stays in that ball in the middle of your bread and then you try to spread it, and you end up just decimating your entire slice of bread.
Yeah. Awful.
It's terrible. Whatever the spicy flakes that people put on pizza, I don't like those either.
Red chili? You mean red pepper flakes? Yeah. They're delicious.
You just don't like spice of any kind. We should actually, our next bet should be we take Hank to a Thai restaurant and be like the full spice and just watch him die the five peppers i actually think he would go to the hospital like i think he would make us call him an ambulance i mean i watched i watched some hot ones a lot during quarantine uh shout out sean evans but i don't think i'd make it to one wing like i don't like i like big cat big cat hank you should you should actually really want to do this to yourself because we can feed you all the spicy food at a thai restaurant and then memes that will come out of the face you would cry everywhere like i mean if you've seen the on hot ones when shack was eating a wing like it's an instant meme paul rudd not really a wing related but that was a meme look at us yeah yeah i'm i'm all set with that i think i'd lose my taste buds forever um all right let's uh that was good mount flush more contentious uh let's get to the last thing in the show we got a deep dive with billy football all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with reese's and hershey's only one reese's peanut butter loversars are actually delicious with Reese's and Hershey's.
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Billy, we're going to talk about dinosaurs, but let's first talk about Billy's Bunker. Billy's Berserker Bunker.
It's looking pretty sick, dude. Dude, this place is awesome.
We got frogs. We got kittens.
We got a puppy coming. We got a PS4.
We got all my jerseys on the wall. Do you have any animals that get along together um i got a puppy coming but i'm gonna put it with the kittens they'll get along you play call dude what games you play on ps4 okay so like this is like the first time i've had like a game console since like gamecube because like i kind of was like playing sports yeah so i suck at all competitive games but i love games like skyrim or like guys like how much free time do we have on the Twitch? Can I just do Skyrim for hours in the meantime? Yeah, we'll have to set some protocols for you to go live on Twitch.
But yes, you absolutely can. That would be sick.
Oh, UFC 3? Me and Dale have legit just been playing that for hours. That is something we would watch.
I would watch you and Dale fight UFC 3 all the time. It's actually sick.
We're pretty good at that. That game I'm pretty good at, so it's going to be lit.
All right, so I'm looking at your wall of jerseys right now. It looks very impressive.
You've got Jeter, Bird, Danny Woodhead, and just when I thought it couldn't get any better, you've got a Swag Kelly. Is that an Ole Miss jersey? Yeah, Ole Miss Swag Kelly.
I also got Mayfield, Baker Mayfield. And yourself.
Yeah, I got my high school jersey. I got Gronk.
And then I got the Notorious McGregor. Yep.
Okay. And then what's up with the frogs? Okay.
So, you know the frogs you guys used to have? Skip and Stephen A., yeah. This might actually, we might cancel dinosaurs for, let's do dinosaurs next week.
Let's do Billy's Berserker Bunker right now. Let's just do it.
Okay, perfect. All right.
I got these African clawed frogs. So you guys had door frogs? No, these are fucking huge, bro.
Let me see. Wait, African clawed frogs.
Is that what you said? The what you said? Yeah, I'll feed them on camera right now.

The females are bigger than the males.

This is Bertha.

This is Bertha

and this is Ebony.

We had an Ivory too,

but Ivory died.

She was a giant albino.

She was really old.

I got two Oscars.

We got a fire Oscar

and an albino Oscar.

And then we got a Pleco.

Ember and Cole. And then we got a Pleco named Obama.
For those that are listening on the podcast and not watching, those are in storage, like, closed containers. Well, glass is expensive.
Hey, hey. Glass is expensive.
Glass is expensive. But this does the exact same job.
Is that a gas mask? Oh, yeah. I got all my masks.
We got a gas mask gas masks oh go to barstool gold to see this live oh yeah you did a bunker all right so so you we don't have barstool gold anymore yeah no that was a great plug all right so so walk us through what else you got here so you basically said this might last a long time i'm building my own bunker in my mom's house and it's gonna be sick yeah so it's like i was basically like if my mother and i have to quarantine and just like social distance everybody and only dale's allowed over so dale has to enter through this door and uh it's the back door so the only person who's allowed in here is dale and uh you know and check out my but right now I got four kittens. Wait, how often does Dale come over? Well, he comes over like when he can, like when we're not doing school.
When we're not doing school. Got it.
You still do school? Yeah, dude. School online sucks.
I mean, like legit, for education no one's actually learning anything. Everyone's just cheating on online not you though you should call it you should refer to dale as long as quarantine lasts just as dale yeah what wait wait go back to the kittens let's see the kittens so you just you just found four kittens and saved them so i was cleaning up my dad's barn and um i was running in and uh my dad hates cats so i was like i found the kit i saw a kitten run under a wood pile so then i went back and i was like yo dad you got kittens in the front barn he was like kittens i hate cats get them out of here so okay grabbed all the kittens and now i have a kitten pit let's see okay how many are in there they They're all sleeping right now.
When I feed them later,

did you only get one out?

No, no, no. Don't let them sleep.

This is seriously bad radio because they can't see

any of this. No, that's okay.

We'll describe it. Have you named the kittens?

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Of course. Joe Exotic, Carol Baskins,

Doc Antle, and Jeff Lowe.

That will be...

You know cats live for like 15 years. Oh, no.
I already adopted them out. I just got to take care of them, yeah.
So you're fostering them right now. I'm fostering, yeah.
So I took them to the vet. They didn't have fleas and they're pretty healthy, but they might have AIDS.
We got to check in two weeks. What? Yeah, feline AIDS.
And you think they have them? Well, we don't know. You can't test until they're eight weeks old.
So don't let them have sex with each other. And don't have sex with them until you find out.
That's fucked. Okay.
What else we got? Do you have a squat rack or anything? It seems like you're not even getting gains down there. Dude, I have my weights.
I have a inversion table to keep the spinal disc.

Dude, get on the inversion table while you're

doing this. Do you want me to do this upside down?

Yeah, do it upside down.

You should sleep upside down. Let me position

it. Let me position it.
Okay.

Well, you got to talk loud if you're going to be away

from the computer.

I do have this standing. I'm recording.

Hi, Mrs. Football.
Hello, hello. How are you doing? Mom, I'm playing with my friends right now.
My berserker basement. I told you not to come down here.
Mom, I was telling about my berserker cats. Mom, I said at 4 o't come down till i come up okay so so so are you getting gains down there i think that's the most important question i'm doing a lot of body weight stuff um that's a no i'm trying to basically i'm flirting with my ncaa eligibility looking for a squat rack on craigslist and stuff like that.
Wait, are you saying that like if you, if somebody gives you a squat rack, that could be an impermissible benefit? I'm just saying if someone wants to send a squat rack to someone who may be getting a lot of packages right now, and then it gets redirected to a random location it wouldn't be the worst thing our boy's smart so also if there's any custom aquarium makers who uh want to do some glass work well i bet you dave also has that taken care of because he's gotten about a thousand animals i'm sure i'm sure he's gotten some you send them all to me. I can, if like, I could sell all the chicks to like a, like a, like a live, like, because you know, like.
He's talking about chickens, by the way, for people who don't know what's going on. You should just surprise one of Dave's unboxings and just show up and just start taking stuff.
Just pick up all the animals. Like, give me all the chickens.
Yeah. All right.
So Billy, last question. Do you sleep in this basement? No, I'm not allowed to sleep in the basement.
Oh, that's too bad. I had to come up.
It would be sick. Do you have a curfew that you have to come up by? Like, basically, I just have to make sure, you know, everything's locked up and I got to go to bed every Sunday.
I, like, been going to bed early. There's nothing really – sometimes I'm up late.
What if you got like a sick bean bag down there or something?

Could you sleep down there then?

We're getting a sicker couch.

This is more of just a bench with like cloth on it.

But my couch that's in storage, we're going to the storage place to pick it up from college and bring it back.

It's going to be sick.

I'm thinking you either got to go bean bag or water bed down there. Yeah.
Ooh, waterbed. Do they make those anymore? Yeah.
I heard I did finance them. So you're basically set for the quarantine, for nuclear holocaust, for everything.
We have like a ton of non-perishables down here. I also have been stockpiling weapons.
So I got an axe. I got another axe.
I have a sledgehammer. I got two axes, a sledgehammer, a BB gun, semi-automatic BB gun.
So, like, I'm not shooting to kill. I'm shooting to, like, stopping power.
Yep. Yep.
That's cool. Okay.
And then do you think that if, like, the world fell apart, do you think maybe there's not enough feminine touch in your basement for your mom to also live in there? That would kind of suck for her. No, I mean, there's too much feminine touch in the house.
This is my spot. Got it.
Billy's man cave. This is my safe space.
Berserker zone. Billy, if all goes to shit in New York City, can we enter your apocalypse bunker? Is there like a card that we have to have or a password to get in? I have one of those slits.
This is Dale. You knock on the door and say, hey, it's Dale.
Let's wrestle. Yeah, I'm installing one of my mom.
I got to get a power saw, but I'm going to install one of those things that go like this, and it's just your eyes. Oh, I like that.
Oh, nice hole the slit right yeah we can do we can do a little glory hole yeah maybe there's a slip for your eyes and then if you can notice their eyes then you then you open the slit for their crotch what's the what's the toilet protocol down there um so i'm trying to build i have like a semi i have to build a toilet sink that i put in. There's got to be a hole, like a sewage hole.
Yeah, yeah. That's what we're kind of doing.
Good job, Hank. It's the drainage.
I've been in that basement a hundred times. It's a sub pump.
Yeah. Yeah, it's for the sub pump.
So I'm also doing a ton of DIY stuff. Like I'm assembling like puppy pit.
And then I'm getting like. Your couch.
My couch assembling. All of jerseys.
This thing was empty. And now it's just filled with all my cool stuff.
Oh, Billy, you know what we got to do? We got to get you on Pinterest and have all your DIY projects like uploaded there so that people can check it out. They're trying to decorate their apocalypse bunker dude i might build a huge frog tank yeah the whole thing could be a frog tank just fill the whole basement with water if you like tube city for frogs oh what do you have if you have your old key to the office you should really just go on an incognito mode mission and just and just store up for the for the basement uh hank i do still have your credit card in my Amazon.
I haven't done anything with it. I haven't done anything with it.
So that's like Trust Tree. You can check it.
I haven't ordered anything with it. That's good.
But hypothetically. You need some stuff.
Got it. Yeah, yeah.
All right. Well, Billy, this has been fantastic.
This is my favorite deep dive to date. Can you just let me give you my top four dinosaurs or something? Yeah, give me your top four dinosaurs.
T-Rex is an absolute fraud. We got Gigantosaurus.
That's like the alpha of all the dinosaurs. It's just basically T-Rex with functional arms, but like four times as big.
Okay. It's like a dragon compared to a wyvern waverns are like the frost dragons the sickest

dragon check out this book dragonology by dr ernest drake it was one of the most definitely

books i read as a child it's all true and it gives all the dragons and all about them

it's totally sick and then there was another version monsterology which is another sick one

anyway they're true um so uh yeah so gigantosaurus is sick and then velociraptors are absolute frauds

Thank you. anyway they're true um so uh yeah so gigantosaurus is sick and then velociraptors are absolute frauds Utah raptors are what was like based off of the raptors in Jurassic Park Utah raptors are like bigger velociraptors were like the size of a chicken like I could punt one yeah like absolute like and they probably just like raided nests and ate eggs so like they're total like betas what else um that's two okay so allosaurus is my favorite dinosaur that's three allosaurus sick as hell yeah allosaurus was like because they t-rex wasn't really a pack hunter allosaurus were like like a giant like um tyrannosaur thatannosaur that was hunted in packs.
They took down like there's insane fossils they found of like six Allosaurus's like the size of like little smaller than T-Rex's just taking down these huge Diplodocus's. It's actually sick.
The way I always saw it was like a Tyrannosaurus was way bigger than Alasaurus, but it was like a superstar that was a diva and went out on its own. It's like in the Super Bowl where the Rams got introduced one by one and then the Patriots all came out at the same time on defense.
That was the Alasaurus. Yeah, exactly.
Four is Iguanodon because he's the OG. We're going to have Bubba make sure when you do the graphic for Mount Rushmore,

have it be Mount Rushmore of toppings, and then a fourth column that just says Mount Rushmore of Billy's dinosaurs.

Billy's favorite dinos.

We'll just add that.

Can you guys tell me your favorite dinosaurs?

I'll have to do it next week.

I'll have to do some research.

I like the Triceratops. Yeah, let's do it next week.
Yeah let's do it next week T-Rex never met a stegosaurus Yeah we learned that last week Fact Alright Billy thank you Everyone tweet Billy what we should do Next week he's in the berserker bunker So we've got nothing but time Yeah Really. Really quick.
Twitter at Billy Hot Takes.

Berserker Blood Cult on Instagram.

And I just started a TikTok.

And I'm not going to be a douchebag on it.

I'm not taking my shirt off.

I'm not dancing.

It's just.

You're not going to get any likes then, Billy.

You're not going to get any likes, buddy.

Billy Hot Takes.

Do we have a part of my take TikTok?

We do.

Yeah.

We should just make Billy just be a wiggle dicker, as Dave calls him.

I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it. Yeah, you are.
And you're not getting paid. And you know what? Okay, okay.
We'll call him. We'll insinuate that he's another Paul brother.
He can be Billy Paul. No, that's what I don't want to be.
I don't want to be a Paul. All right, Billy.
You're going to start doing wiggle dicks on the part of my TikTok. You shouldok you should fight jake paul yeah you should fight

jake paul i dude he's actually fought before like i know he's actually a he was a sick wrestler in

ohio too yeah you could take him yeah all right billy peace love you guys I'm talking away.

I don't know what I'm to say.

I say it anyway.

Today's a night to take to find me.

Shining away.

I'll be coming for your love, okay?

Shining away. I'll be coming for your love.
Oh, okay.

I'll be coming for your love.

Okay.

Take me.

Take me.

I'll be. I'll be gone

And I say I'll change I'm upset, but I feel so little way Say, I'm sorry Say, I'm sorry It's better to be safe than sorry Say, I'm sorry It's better to be safe than sorry Say, I'm sorry It's better to be safe than sorry

Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

In a day of time That you say There isn't a lie for me Just to play my words away You are the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll be gone In a deep I'll be gone

In a day