Adam Morrison, Dick Pound From The IOC, NFL 100 RB List, Mt Flushmore of Candy

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And weather whatever in Ariat Work Gear. Wednesday April 1st April Fool's Day guys we have no sports and everything's canceled forever and I know I'm not trying to be a bummer but when Brian Windhorse broke the Chinese basketball news to me that was a gut punch because here's here's what I'm doing I'm I'm calendar guy.
I'm trying to figure out how we're going to get back into this thing. Chinese basketball, China is four months, around three months ahead of us schedule-wise.
That means we aren't going to have sports. We're not going to be ready for sports at the very earliest, somewhere in June, July, and I don't think that's happening.
I don't know how time zones work. I think they're only like 12 hours ahead.
At least when I was there, that's what the clock told me. I am not, I'm just thinking that China doesn't want us to have basketball.
So that's why they're postponing their own season. I think that there's plenty of room for negativity to be coming up later this summer.
Just give me something off in the distance that I can look forward to. Give me a mirage that I can pull myself towards.
Don't tell me that there's nothing out there. Allow me to be disappointed a little bit later.
See, I'm approaching this the exact opposite way. I have canceled sports for 2020, 2021, and possibly 2022, and anything that we get that comes sooner than that is a bonus.
I'm not going to let myself get my heart broken over and over because here's the thing. I'm so stupid.
I still think somehow they're going to play March Madness and I have to just remove myself from that, that thought and be like, listen, nothing's getting played forever. Like not to be alarmist, but the world has ended and sports are over.
Well, so that's not true. First of all, it it's patently false and i can prove that's false because we are getting a golfing showdown between phil nicholson and tiger woods with maybe tom brady and peyton manning like playing doubles against each other that would be awesome right i think that like these celebrity golf things are going to be the only thing that we're going to have to pull us through the springtime we could do do any sport that's one-on-one with distance.
Tennis is perfect. We could just have Federer play against Nadal every single weekend for the next three months.
PFT, the future of sports is everyone watching video games, and then every three weeks or so, a closed set where Dana White has people beat the fuck out of each other.'s all we have you're forgetting about the Brady versus Manning thing that that's gonna get canceled I'm so like I'm like you are but it's gonna be Manning against Brady I don't care if it's not football it's still in my mind in my brain it's football because those guys going at each other they just created that event just so they can cancel it I'm sorry Everyone's addicted to canceling shit now. It's fucking – it's a joke.
So I'm – listen, this is – I'm going to need you to calm down. No, no, no.
This is how you have to cope. You have to put your guardrails up.
You have to not let yourself get hurt repeatedly because I know some people are saying, oh, we'll wait until May 1st and we'll figure out. Just get this through your brain that we're never going to watch sports again.
And then if they say, hey, guess what? We're going to play 10 games of baseball in fucking November. I'll be so pumped for that.
I won't give a fuck. So that's where I'm going from.
If they give me an MLS, if the Sounders play the fucking Casey, whatever the hell they are in December, I'm good with that because I've already set the expectation I'm never going to see live sports again. Stand down.
Stand down, pessimist cat. Negativity cat.
I'm not going to be able to deal with going through the entire rest of this year with no sports whatsoever. It's not even an option in my head.
We're going to get sports. Exactly.
That you're you're going to break your heart again i don't care my heart my heart is calloused over seven times there's enough game of thrones for me to watch going into 2022 if i have to okay i've got a stockpile of content that i can get into there's going to be sports wait wait hold on hold on is it weird though that you're watching game of thrones but you know exactly what happens because you watched the whole last season with us. I watched the last season.
And the recaps. And the full recaps that you talked about all the time.
The recaps were about 15 minutes long, and every single clip was a second. So I don't know what the hell happens to any character.
I vaguely remember what happens to Arya. I know what happens to Arya and the Night King and all that stuff.
I remember what happens to King's Landing at the very end and the dragons and all that. But there are so many characters in that show that I could not tell you what happens to the Hound.
I don't know what happens to Khaleesi's boyfriend or whatever. If I can make a recommendation, PFT, you should just skip to the third season and watch it 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2.
Yes. That's how true fans watch.
Okay, all right. But no, Big Cat, here's what I'm saying.
Like, there will be sports. We need to say out loud there will be sports.
And you know why there will be sports? Because our good friend Mike Florio is going to ensure that there will be sports. Mike Florio is establishing emergency protocols.
He wants the NFL to be run like the shadow government in cases like New York City and Washington DC is hit with a thermonuclear bomb where they fly all the important people out to West Virginia, put them in the Greenbrier in the hills and just have it be a self-contained coronavirus free football league. Okay, you're misunderstanding where I'm coming from.
I want there to be sports. I want someone to solve it.
I actually hated, uh, I was watching, I don't even know. I was flipping through channels and I, I landed on the Levitard show on Monday and they were making fun of Jay Williams and his cruise idea.
You shut up Levitard show. Anyone who has innovation in this sports, like trying to save sports is welcome to me.
Like I, Jay Williams, that idea is patently ridiculous, but I don't care because at least he's trying. So I'm down for people to try.
I will help trying. I'll use my brain.
I'll donate my brain to sports. I'm telling you what I'm saying right now is to set the expectations so you cannot continually get your heart broken.
That's where I'm coming from. I do not want to tell myself again, I'm the person who still thinks they're going to play March Madness.
I don't know how, but I feel like they could. So what I'm trying to do here is set the expectation at no sports ever again.
So that way, anything I get, I am so, so excited about. Okay.
As a DC sports fan, I've had my heart broken up where I'm, it's calloused over already. I don't care if it continues to break my heart.
I'm fine. I'm fine.
I'm just, I just need to have an illusion that there will be sports, but there are people out there who think that like May 1st, we're going to have sports. Are you fucking crazy, man? That's not going to happen.
And I'm with you on the, like, yeah, let's get as many minds, as many weird ideas in this room as possible. I want it to be like, you remember in Apollo 13 when they were trying to figure out how to fit that square air filter into the circle plug? And they just got all the nerds into a room and just dumped like coffee makers and shit onto a table.
That's what America needs to be right now. We all need to be huddled in in the back room of NASA trying to contribute our ideas.
No stupid ideas, no such thing as a bad idea. Just dump it all out there on the table.
And I think we can make something happen. So Florio had the idea of putting all the NFL teams in the Greenbrier, the one resort in West Virginia, making everybody live there for a year.
Florio just wants to be able to cover the team from his backyard. Like, hey, they should play the NFL season in Brooklyn.
Yeah, Mike Florora just doesn't want to fly because he's afraid of it. And so it's actually a genius move on his part.
But I don't hate the idea of whether it's the NBA or the NFL or any sport playing in like a self-contained area because you can double dip. You can get a little extra revenue.
You turn it also into a reality show like the Ultimate Ultimate Fighter. So you get cameras inside the big houses.
That's the big three's idea. The entire league is on hard knocks.
It's a bonus reality show and sports league at the same time. That's not a dumb idea.
I know it's a dumb idea, but it's not a dumb idea right now. PFC, the big three is literally trying to do exactly what you just said.
Dude, Jay Williams' idea is smart. It's stupid, but it's fucking smart.
And he actually had a practical – the thing we need right now is everyone needs to start with a practical little kernel. So his little kernel was that Mickey Aronson, the owner of the Heat, owns Carnival Cruises.
And he start an Eastern conference cruise and a Western conference cruise.

And you just fucking put the NBA out in the ocean for the next three months

and let them hash it out.

And everyone was mocking him.

And I don't want to hear that shit because we need innovation is the

Manhattan project.

This is a Manhattan project to save sports.

So everyone shut the fuck up,

get in line and figure out a way to give me a game.

Because right now you heard what I said at the start. I cancel sports until 2022.
What is the Manhattan Project? The atomic bomb. It's two shots of bourbon, one of sweet vermouth, some bitters on top, on the rocks, shaking.
Boom, you're good. So I think that what we should do is, let's just dump some ideas out there.
Underwater football, but it's in a bubble, like at the bottom of the ocean. Okay how about just going on to an island i feel like you're gonna want that ocean on top of you no i think we're gonna do they the nfl the nfl actually should be looking at like island property right this second they should be looking wherever the fucking uh bahamas bowls played the popeyes bowl when when the mac team goes there and scores like 100 points and the wind's blowing and there's like four people in the stadium, find that stadium wherever it is.
I'm sure it's not hard because you can probably just Google it and set that up. Like, let's just play on an island.
Fuck it. Go to Hawaii.
Go back for the Pro Bowl. I mean, if we're doing Manhattan Project, let's go to the Bikini Islands and let's go to the middle of the desert in New Mexico.
Yes. I don't think that they've got an outbreak just there yet.
Just play on former nuclear sites. How about that? That's actually perfect.
I doubt the virus can exist in an environment where it's being bombarded by radiation all the time. They should play the NBA season.
No one's in the hotels in Vegas right now. Just fucking take over one huge hotel and seal that thing off

biodome that shit, or even better go to the Hoosiers gym in Indiana and watch everyone

fucking there's no three pointers and let's just go back in time and we'll play basketball

that way.

I don't care.

Like you, you take over a small town in Indiana.

You could probably get away with, uh, you know, not having the Corona virus get in.

Where, where can the virus, where is it difficult for viruses to exist?

Thank you. in indiana you could probably get away with uh you know not having the coronavirus get in where where can the virus where is it difficult for viruses to exist in the heat is that what fauci taught us no by the way fauci a little bit of a clout chaser fauci is getting yeah trump is getting mad but you can you can tell that trump's getting mad because fauci's becoming more popular than he is so pretty Trump's going to be like, Fauci's getting his ideas from me.
What about playing it on a Navy ship? It's no different aircraft carrier. That's what I've been saying.
Play Michigan State and fucking Memphis. Play week one in college basketball.
And it's always so stupid because no one knows how to handicap a game that has wind and it's on an actual boat, but I don't care. Yeah, no, I'm fine with that.
I've been fine. I think that was the first suggestion that we had was to play the NCAA tournament on a variety of aircraft carriers, bring the world together and have you all like contribute your military ships for the greater good.
That would actually help solve world peace. If we could just get all our militaries to collaborate together on sports.
Or you just play them like in a giant field with no out-of-bounds markers so everyone can practice distancing. Because here's the thing.
It's going to be impossible. I saw that there was talk of having NFL teams use like virtual reality headsets to do virtual walkthroughs and practices and stuff,

that's not going to work.

That's not going to work at all.

I mean, I can see the draft working.

Another option, just give us like a bunch of drafts.

Just do like seven drafts this year.

The year that there were no sports, only drafts.

Bill O'Brien is going to kick ass at participating in drafts where he's not even allowed to have physical contact with the person that's what sold him on brock osweiler i'll turn him around i don't care whatever has to happen they need to figure it out and i'm sick and this is my message to all the haters out there who say like this is a ridiculous idea how could you be throwing these ideas out there when there's a pandemic listen we know we know that they're ridiculous ideas, but some of the, one of these ideas is going to hit. And at some point, one of these leagues is going to be like, yeah, you know what? Let's move everyone to a remote Island.
Let's move everyone to a cruise ship. So the more, like the more we get this into the mainstream talk that they need to start doing innovative things, the better.
So keep doing that. And the one thing I will say that, like, the one solace I take in all this is I'm pretty sure the SEC will play no matter what.
Like, the NFL will be canceled. College football will be canceled.
Every sport will be canceled until 2021. And the SEC will be like, no, the show must go on.
So I guess at least we have that. Nick Saban, at the very least, is going to be like, I'm going to be out there on Saturday.
I'm going to be there. And he'll just go out on the sideline, expect his boys to follow him out.
Like Nick Saban, if you think that you're keeping Nick Saban in the house for an entire fall, buddy, you got another thing coming. All right.
So someone fixed sports for us. We're open to all ideas.
Don't be a hater when people throw out crazy ideas. They're not that crazy because guess what? We need

sports back. We just need it.
We need it. We need it.

We need it. Moon golf.

Moon golf works.

Hit it fucking a million

miles. Keeps going.

Should we do the NFL 100?

The running backs? Let's get mad about a

list. Yeah.
Alright. Alright.
So

let me throw out there what they

ended up with. They had 12 running backs on this list.
12, which is a lot. I think what did we have – what did we do last week? What did we do – what did we do last week? We had tight ends.
Tight ends. Tight ends was only like five or six.
So the running backs they have, they have pre-1970 running backs, Tim Brown, Marion Motley, Steve Van Buren, Lenny Moore, Earl Dutch Clark, and Gale Sayers. So that group, I don't even know what we do with that group.
Sure. Jim Brown, obviously number one.
Let's go through it. Like, whatever.
Who cares? I don't know. You know, Gale Sayers.
I know Gale Sayers. I know Jim Brown.
The other guy's like, okay, I'll take your word for it kind of thing. The six more recent, so 1970s on, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, OJ Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Emmitt Smith.
Where do you want to start? Because I actually have – I'm just going to get started by saying like OJ Simpson, like i get it but i mean come on you you could have very easily not put oj simpson on this list and nobody would have been like hey what the fuck why didn't you put oj simpson on the list i agree he was the he was a running back of the 70s though i know that because i just watched the documentary yesterday okay so he's a one guy he was the guy it would be it would be incorrect for them not to put him in there he he i agree with you pft i don't i i could do without him i also could do probably without earl campbell and i have i think walter payton barry sanders emmett smith and eric dickerson are pretty much locks in there so if we're saying we're going to take earl campbell out and oj simpson and let's just say let's throw I would keep Earl Campbell okay well I disagree I think okay let's get into it I think the three running backs that they totally missed and that uh at least two no actually I think all of them are better than Earl Campbell uh Adrian Peterson should be in there agreed LaDainian Tomlinson should be in there and Marshall Fox should be in there okay those are the three that i had on my list as well uh that you probably could i also put frank gore on that list no i had jamal lewis as well wait wait now if you're gonna if you're gonna be a jason witten guy you have to be a frank hold on i wasn't this way wait hold on hold on i wasn't a jason witten guy i never said jason witten should be in the in the in the best uh tight ends i said he was in my third group or second group the next group so he was never in my i never i know but remember i put him after three other people so he wasn't even i put him after shannon sharp i put him after ozzy newsome and i put him after uh another person so don't you also jason witten was never in my in my even close to my top tight ends he sounded like like a Jason Witten stand. So you also could have put Curtis Martin on this list, I thought.
Earl Campbell, I think Earl Campbell deserves to be on there. Hold on.
Go back to Frank Gore. You, and we're going to get to wide receivers, you want Larry Fitzgerald, who's also a compiler of stats.
So where do you stand that i just don't like jason witten i've been very all right but i never said jason witten should be even close to the top five i said he was just somewhere close he was he was after three guys i had three guys that were were better than him what are you doing hank i think i think hanks remember this conversation a little bit differently i oh my god i had three guys that were ahead of Jason Witten, so he was the ninth best tight end. Okay, of all time.
So I would have Frank Gore as maybe my ninth best running back of all time. So you would have him above Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Marshall Falk, LT, Eric Dickerson, Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, all these other guys they have pre-1970? No disrespect to Earl Dutch Clark, but you only get one Earl per list.
It's a rule that I just made up right now, but I feel like it's a good rule for this NFL 100. And Earl Campbell is the Earl that I'm going to go with because I at least remember, I've seen him play and he's a great player.
He's a great college player, great NFL player. You saw that play where he put his head down and just ran that guy over.
We can't in this list. We, I think we have to, unfortunately, the way they like compiled this list, they have six guys that are pre 1970.
I don't think we can, like, we have to just go with their pre 1970 list. We have to, if we want to replace current running backs with the current running backs list, we can do that.
But I don't think we can touch, because otherwise I'd just eliminate everyone except Jim Brown and Gail Sayers from the pre-1970. You know what I mean? I'm fine with that.
No, no, but I'm saying I don't think we can, I think to make it difficult, we cannot touch the pre-1970s list. How about this? We should be able to get rid of one of the guys.
We added the group of Earl Dutch Clark, Marion Motley, who the big takeaway about Marion Motley from the people that nominated him was said that offensively he was a blocker as much as he was a runner. All right, so we get one of them away.
So what's your list? You got Marion Motley, and then you have steve van buren who has a total of 5800 career russian yards all right so pre-1970 you get to take away one i agree with that now give me your list then of so it would be give me your seven uh 1970s and on list okay so in that case i'm gonna go with Earl Campbell Eric Dickerson

Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Marshall Falk. That's six.
How many do I get? One more? Yeah. LaDainian Tomlinson.
That would be my list if I could get rid of one of them. Wait, did you say Barry Sanders? Yeah.
Wait, say it again then. Earl Campbell.
Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Marshall Falk, LT. Okay.
So I took the L.S.A.R.s off. And you don't have Adrian Peterson.
Ah, shit. Yeah.
Adrian Peterson actually coming. I'm taking Marshall Falk off putting AP on.
Okay. So I'll make the case that my list would be Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, Marshall Falk, and LT.
So I was looking through it. If you want to do Earl Campbell, who's like a power running back, Adrian Peterson, and you could make the argument that it's harder to be a runner in like this era of the NFL.
Adrian Peterson had eight years over 1,000 rushing yards, and one year he had 970. He played 12 games.
He tore his ACL. Earl Campbell had five years over a thousand rushing yards and one year he had 970 that was he played 12 games he tore his

acl uh earl campbell had five years over 1300 yards and if you go their best year to best year adrian peterson less than nine months after tearing his acl had 2097 yards 12 tds earl Campbell had 1934 yards, 13 TDs.

I think Adrian Peterson's a better, longevity-wise as well, a better running back than Earl Campbell. I think so too, but I'm still keeping Earl Campbell on the list.
And most of it, admittedly, is because of that cool play where he put his head down, ran the dude over, and then he got his jersey taken off as he was running forward. Because that's just a that's his Heisman moment for the NFL 100 list I think Adrian Peters should be on it Peterson

should be on it Marshall Falk I was looking through the Marshall Falk numbers he had uh

he had 11 straight years over a thousand yards from scrimmage four straight uh over 2,000 yards

and then in his uh 2,000 season he had uh 2,189 all-purpose yards, 26 touchdowns. And LT is the biggest travesty to me because LT, going through LT's numbers, it's fucking insane.
His peak was so ridiculous. He had eight seasons in a row with over 1,000 yards, at least 10 TDs.
And then he had 100 catches in 2003 so he could do both and then that 2006 season i went through the game logs i don't know like there's probably some people listening who probably don't i don't know how old you'd have to be if you were yeah i mean if you're if you're like 20 if even if you're 25 what year would you be hank what year were you born 93 i'm 26 okay so if you're like 20, even if you're 25, what year would you be? Hank, what year were you born? 93. I'm 26.
Okay, so if you're like 22, you probably don't fully remember 2006 LaDainian Tomlinson. So from week 8 to week 15, I'm just going to read the stats because they're fucking insane.
This is like the old Barry Sanders go through his Jerry Rice fantasy stats. He had 240 all-purpose yards, three touchdowns, 192 all-purpose yards, three touchdowns, 158 all-purpose yards, four touchdowns, 179 yards, four touchdowns, 114 yards, two touchdowns, 192 yards, two touchdowns, 112 yards, three touchdowns, and 204 yards, two touchdowns.
In eight weeks, the Chargers went 8-0 and he had 23 total touchdowns 112 yards three touchdowns and 204 yards two touchdowns in eight weeks the chargers went eight no and he had 23 total touchdowns it's pretty impressive that's fucking insane yeah lt was saying lt very clearly should be on this list i don't know why they devalued modern running backs because i don't care who you talk to adrian peterson and laden tomlinson are probably two of the top four in the history and i don't i don't know why they left them off this list. I don't care who you talk to.
Adrian Peterson and Lydane Tomlinson are probably two of the top four in the history. I don't know why they left them off this list.
I don't understand Adrian Peterson over – or Earl Campbell over Adrian Peterson when you stack them up and it's like Adrian Peterson did it for a lot longer and not to mention like Adrian Peterson did lose a year of his career to the whole off-field issue, which was like still his peak. His peak, he like didn't peak.
It's crazy to look at Adrian Peterson and be like, how did this guy do this? Like when he hit 1,000 yards last year, right, two years ago? A couple years ago, yeah. It's crazy.
So I think he should be on the list. So that was my biggest bone to pick.
Take Earl campbell take oj simpson off and throw those three guys on now are they putting anybody on this list that is a current nfl network employee because maybe that was a conflict of interest type deal for marshall fox and uh for lt doesn't lt contribute to them oh he might be yeah yeah i don't know i just thought the whole thing like i actually got kind of mad looking at all the stats and I was like why aren't these guys on this list this makes no sense to me there were some no-brainers that like Walter Payton Barry Sanders Emmitt Smith like absolute no-brainers but when it comes to Adrian Peterson LT and and Marshall Fox like well this makes no sense these guys should all be on the list I agree So I think in hindsight, we basically agree on everything except for Earl Campbell. Right.
You have Earl Campbell and I have him out. He only did it.
You had Gale Sayers. He didn't.
I thought you said you took Earl Dutch Clark off. I did.
Yeah. So you didn't have to take Gale Sayers off.
I want to send a message. Gale Sayers was pre-1970.
Yeah, Gale Sayers was a hell of a player. Yeah, I mean, Gale Sayers was kind of the – if you look, he doesn't have the stats.
He was the more like, what if he didn't get hurt? And like, what if he played in modern era and was able to recover from a knee injury? Yeah, he was like, if you've watched Reggie Bush's highlights in college, that's what Gale Sayers looked like. Right.
He was like the tape pick, where it's like, the stats might not even come close to all these other guys, but if you watched the tape, you're like, this guy was just something out of control. He was cool.
He was very cool. Also, the more I think about Earl Campbell, I think living in Austin probably is pushing me more towards wanting Earl on this list because the airport there, the bar, is called Earl Campbell's.
And so when I was waiting for my plane, I would have a couple tall, cold Earl Campbell's and have some good memories of that place. I'm not taking anything away from Earl Campbell.
He's a hell of a running back. But if you're talking about the longevity of Adrian Peterson, LT, and Marshall Falk, I think should count.
And Earl Campbell was fantastic, but it was really a three-year peak, four-year peak. And, you know, his body kind of betrayed him.
So I think that that's where I add the other three guys. I just think it's kind of ridiculous to have somebody with 5,800 career rushing yards on the list of best running backs of all time.
And then one guy that was like a better linebacker than he was a running back.

Yeah.

The pre 1970s shit.

I mean,

they're just doing it to be like,

no one's going to argue with that because like,

how could we,

we don't know.

And if Belichick says that like he Belichick probably has watched every

single game of Steve Van Buren.

I was actually,

I actually thought that Marion Motley was a guy that Belichick just

invented to see if anyone was paying attention because he was Mary Motley sounds like he's what he wanted Rob Ninkovich to be, like a great linebacker and a serviceable running back. Yeah, and Belichick definitely could sneak one on and be like, yeah, I used to watch this tape on my refrigerator with my dad and everyone would be like, okay, sounds good, coach.
Yeah, he's a four-time AAFC champion. Okay, cool.
Yep okay cool yep sounds good sounds perfect um all right it's good to get mad about a list i i it's like all we have left i i actually get excited to look at these lists and be like all right where the fuck am i gonna get mad about um what are we gonna do next week we do qbs you want to dive right into qbs i don't know it's gonna be tough to like do like secondary stuff. I don't really know how.
I mean, I'm sure. We got to do the top 100 games.
Let's do wide receivers. All right.
You want to do wide receivers? Okay. Yeah.
They also released their top 100 games, and that's the thing that got me the most upset. Okay.
We can get mad about that, too. What was their number one game, the Ice Bowl? I forget.
It was disgusting. Probably that Chargers, that overtime game in the playoffs, right? Like Peyton Manning breaks the single season, like regular season passing record.
Drew Brees, Monday night game, the 15th one when he broke a record. By the way, I'm not even there's like four of those in the top 20 have you seen have you seen sean payton giving like fewer and fewer fucks as he gets older and older and goes on tv more like he he's going on tv on like first take and breaking news and just saying yeah drew breeze is gonna retire after this year casually i think that he's just like when he when sean pay the Corona virus, he is going to be giving so many fewer fucks than he even was before.
He's just going to go out there and be like, uh, Taysom Hill, you're going to do onside kicks and recover them yourself too. Like he's just going to go off the deep end.
He tweeted it. Like he, he's just started tweeting his playbook the other night.
It was sick. It was, I mean, shout out Sean Payton.

He's like in this with everyone else.

He's like, what does it matter?

We might never get this.

We never get sports back again.

I'm just going to give you guys all my playbook.

Right.

He's going to have the same spray paint like the Roger Goodell clown logo

at center field or at midfield.

That's how old grandpa I give no fuck Sean Payton is getting right now. Love it.
Need more of it. All right.
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Hank, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is nerds.
I feel like during this quarantine, like now all the NBA can do, they're starting to have NBA 2K leagues where all the players are just playing 2K. MLB is doing it.
Everyone's getting into video games, and I feel like nerds have gotten their culture appropriated. There's no situation where all the nerds would start playing sports but all the sports athletes are playing video games and i'm sure like all the call of duty servers are full like it's kind of a shit show so i'm sort of the nerds are are heated and upset yes they were here first yeah i was born in the darkness you merely inherited it we're on their block exactly okay good one uh and then my cool throne this is kind of a cool throne hot in the streets uh this is a new the new new hot thing on tiktok all the kids are doing it it's called being like being shy this is just like this is what this is the new universal sign for being shy like that fingers together hank it's podcast so you have to tell people what you're doing and you just put your fingers together yeah you point your two fingers together do you touch tips do you dock your index fingers you do touch tips dude I love it's like the it's the new like you know like when you're being shy but you have to podcast and and you just do this I feel like Hank's Hank's doing something and making us do this signal and we don't really know what it means no no it's it's I'm telling you i'm telling you i don't know what this means and i'm gonna stop it means being shy i do love all the uh all the fraud introverts that have to like live with this right now you know all the people like i'm actually an introvert i don't really want to go out it's like now they're stuck with this like yeah let's see how introverted you are motherfucker that's always that's always nice i want to talk to one of those the the introvert, extrovert people.
Yeah, I'm going to take you out back and make you smoke a whole pack of being introverted and see how you like it down. Exactly.
PFC, what do you got? Hank, explain to me what that is with the being shy, touching. I literally just did.
You're doing something to us. No, it's Hank.
I know, Hank. I can see your brain working right now.
We're going to look like fools. You're going to put, like, you're going to add in, like, a little dancing bitmoji on my fingers, and you're going to make me look like a jackass, Hank.
No, I'm telling you, get on TikTok. You'll be viral as fuck, just being like, when you have to be shy, but you have to podcast.
Oh, yeah, he's actually, I am looking images for being shy and those two fingers touching, aren't they? Okay. My hot seat is – It also says you're down to be pegged.
Okay, well, that's good. What the fuck, Hank? You took it too far.
You got too deep into Google. All right, what do you got, PFT? My hot seat is the rest of the world because USA Rugby is up for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
So I don't know what that means, but I think that it means that I can buy it, that I can bail it out, that they can offload themselves onto me. I don't know because all my bankruptcy knowledge comes from either Wheel of Fortune or just the office gift when Michael's screaming, I declare bankruptcy.

So I don't know what it means, but I feel like it means that I can purchase

every single rugby team and event in the United States, and then it becomes mine.

Okay.

So what's your first plan of action?

First plan of action, every team gets a Pro Bowl linebacker from the NFL. No, no, no.
What's your first? I'm telling you, but the rules don't apply to them. No, no, no.
You can't commit a penalty. No, no, no.
We're not talking about what you're going to do with the league. What's your first plan of action to actually get the league? We signed Tim Tebow.
No, no, no. How are you going to get it? Yes.
Neon jerseys on every team. Wait, wait.
How am I going to get it it how are you going to acquire the league i i just told you i don't know how bankruptcy works but i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure it means like i can just bid fifty thousand dollars for the entire usa rugby and if no if everyone else forgets to bid on it then it becomes mine right on because then you probably shouldn't talk about it yeah i'm gonna dib 50 i'm gonna bid 51 000 that's perfect then i come in second place and by the rules of rugby i win yeah i'm gonna buy it and then just disband it right away so we don't be there about it anymore i'll be there to collect the sweet sweet drippings from that fire i don't know i'll be like the guys from succession when they bought the fake dead spin and i'm just gonna gut it you're not gonna gut it. It's impossible.
I'm going to gut it. No, it's too gritty to be gutted.
I think that I could make a good USA rugby president. I just don't know how much it's going to cost.
And I don't know how to run a league, but it'd be pretty cool to own an entire like organization like that. Wouldn't it? Yeah.
It'd be cool to try and get a sports team. It'd be cool to have sports back if we're talking about things that aren't realistic that is realistic how much how much do you think usa rugby costs uh i don't know i have no fucking clue what it would it entails i bet most people don't so 10 million economy person to buy a million dollars okay hey i'm gonna own usa rugby that's all i'm saying.
My cool throne is bored NBA fans on Reddit.

So if you think that Mike Greenberg comes up with some dumb rules and dumb theories, you should check out NBA.

Was it like NBA slash Reddit slash NBA?

I don't know what it is.

Anyways, here's a great theory that somebody came out with just because

they're bored and there's no basketball.

Could an owner theoretically marry a player in order to circumvent

the salary cap?

It's actually brilliant, isn't it? Yes, that is brilliant. I don't see any holes in that.
I don't either. Um, Michael Jordan could probably adopt his son or, you know, he could just have his son play if he was any good and just like write him more and more into the will every year.
Like adoption one is, isn't the same as marriage. Yeah.
Why not? I don't know. I just feel it that way.
It's someone who's not in your family. Can you adopt like a grown adult? Yeah, exactly.
You can. I think you can.
It's not a dependent. Taxes.
I don't know. Look at that.
Look at Hank. Tax Hank.
I don't know how that works. That's pretty good.
I think the hot seat cool throne is PFD. You don't know how any of this stuff works but your ideas are there that's that's my other cool throne is uh just saying in this economy because i've been telling it i'm addicted to it we're in a recession is back that's big time back you can say that for everything does anything anyone says in this economy yeah like no come on no no way we're in a recession, dude.
All right, so I think marrying – are there any female owners?

I mean, I guess you could marry – Jeannie Buss.

Jeannie Buss, yeah.

Jeannie Buss could – she probably did marry LeBron.

Maybe she should adopt Bronny James Jr. before he turns 18.

Now there's what you do.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't see a problem with that.

I think that you can – like, okay, so what if Bronny becomes a great player

Thank you. Now there's what you do.
Yeah. I mean, I don't see a problem with that.
I think that you can – like, okay, so what if Bronny becomes a great player and then LeBron just says, I will add you into the will more and more every single year if you agree to sign with the Lakers? That can happen, I think. Yeah, that can definitely happen.
That could happen. Like, LeVar Ball.
Give LeBron – oh, shit, I don't even want to say this out loud. Oh, no.
Say it. Go off, King.
It's that good of an idea. By the way, fuck LeBron for pretending that he brought the fucking Jordan Doc out.
Everyone knew it was coming. Everyone knew it was coming.
Literally. I'm happy it's here, but everyone knew it was coming.
Some team needs to give LeBron equity, and then LeBron can do what we're saying and just pay LeBron-y less. And it's LeBron's son.

Like, obviously, LeBron is taken care of. Shit.

Well, I mean, LeBron could already do that with his son.

And just, like, progressively write him into the wheel.

He could own a team.

That would actually be the most likely is LeBron owns a team

and then just signs his son for nothing.

And then LeBron Jr. kills his dad to get all the money.
Yeah. He's kind of Shakespearean.
Mm-hmm. But then he can't play in the games because he's in jail.
No, OJ. He gets away with it, though.
Oh, yeah. I've been watching that.
But LeBron's dead? I knew I could get you to say that. What about LeVar Ball lavar ball since he's worth a billion dollars he could probably write all his sons into the wall and have so much more money left over yeah that's true billion dollar big baller brand all right my um hot seat is podcasts so podcast numbers are down i read an article today so it's just a reminder to everyone to subscribe, unsubscribe, rate it

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non-sleep-related play each part of my take twice once when you normally listen and then a second time as you're falling asleep yes yes so podcasts are getting hurt um we're actually fine we actually had a meeting about it but podcasts i think the podcast bubble's coming for everyone so we're just ahead here and telling everyone, hey, maybe do your part. Make sure you tell everyone to subscribe to part of my take over and over and over.
Tell all your social distancing friends to subscribe to part of my take over and over. All right.
And then my cool throne is anyone who wasn't a part of my take didn't exist. So anyone who wasn't a stoolie in 2015, because tomorrow night or tonight,

they're replaying the Final Four and National Championship game from 2015 on CBS Sports. I've never watched the game on TV.
I was at the game. Hank was right next to me.
I'm going to live tweet Kentucky versus Wisconsin, and then I'm going to periscope Wisconsin versus Duke, and I've never watched a game. So anyone who missed out on laughing at my dead corpse, we're going to do it all over again.
It's going to be fucking great. Little funky charrows.
I remembered earlier, Big Cat, you basically shamed me out of wearing a Duke shirt to that game. Yes, yes, I did.
You were like like are you here for work are you here for for duke i was like well both but and then i got in my head and i had to wear like a normal shirt and afterwards i was like wait like of course i'll treat out the rundown after i mean like it that game meant everything to every like that game was everything i'll never get back to that point you'll be back to that point a million times over and that still stands true so there's also a picture out there someone has it i as i was walking out i i gave the finger to the duke's like student section like full-on two birds out of just pure not funny pure anger i don't know if anyone has that picture but tweeted me. I was so, so mad.
And, yeah, it was a terrible night. So we're going to relive it tomorrow night.
So anyone who wasn't able to enjoy that the first go around, you get it. Kentucky game was great, though.
Kentucky game was – I can't get a test. I didn't leave the bar after the Kentucky game for two days straight.
I just was drunk for two days straight. Because I was like, I'll never be back in this moment.
I'd never be back in that moment. I think I speak for everybody out there that's listening.
That says that you should do soggy sorrows after the, uh, I mean, I'll probably start crying. Yeah.
I'll probably start crying. It will probably be soggy sorrows and get a cat and get a cat and get a cat.
Um, all right. That is, uh, so that's tomorrow night.
So tune in. It's going to suck.
I've i've i'm gonna get so mad about the refs hank because have you ever re-watched it no no yeah i'm gonna get really mad i'm gonna make a fucking i'm gonna come out of that like pepe sylvia and just be like just oh huge corkboard of all the fucking calls but you know they're gonna have it's gonna be one of those things where they have obviously select edited it, so they're going to it's going to be the controversial call, and it'll just skip to the next play real quick. Yeah, Coach K probably had final cut on this broadcast, for sure.
Yeah, the Kentucky game was awesome, though. Yes, I still can't believe Wisconsin won that game, 38-1, and Kentucky fans are still mad about it.
It was so bad. I was on a bachelor party that weekend in Key West.
And I remember watching that game 38-1 and Kentucky fans are still mad about it which it was so it was

I was I was uh on a bachelor party that weekend in Key West and I remember watching that game in the bar and that uh Monday championship game when I came back was one of the worst hangovers of my life so I don't even remember watching the game I was stone cold sober I watched the entire thing but my brain has just wiped clean that slate too so I'll watch it I'll watch it for the first time just to enjoy you enjoying it.

I also remember I drove back that next day on that tuesday morning back to chicago with one of my best friends and we it's like a three-hour drive and we said not a single word to each other for on a three-hour drive not one single word and it was just like misery all right uh let's get our interviews. We've got Adam Morrison.
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Morrison. Okay, we now welcome on one of our longtime friends, recurring guests.
This is

actually part of the lockdown. We've kind of been going back in time.
And you are one of our first

big guests that helped us break through. It adam morrison calling us from his apocalypse bunker uh adam how are you doing first of all like we were talking we were texting a week ago and um obviously with diabetes that's a that's an underlying health condition so you're taking obviously this very seriously but how how is it out there being you know on lockdown and seeing everything that's going down it's all right i mean i self-quarantine i was in vegas for uh you know the wcc tournament calling those games so i i haven't left the house pretty much since i got back and then you know the governor of the state did a mandatory lockdown i I think it was three days ago.
So, you know, it's kind of weird. I think everybody's going through their own little deal.
But, you know, type 1 diabetes has a little bit scary for me just trying to be out in public. So I've been avoiding it at all costs.
But, yeah, just like everybody else, man, just kind of in shock of just how much this has affected everyday life. Do you prefer to be introduced as two-time NBA champion Adam Morrison? Did we drop the ball on that one? No, not at all.
I handed out water and towels and stuff during that time, so I could let that one slide, but no, no thanks. I think recurring guest, old-time friend, and guy who helped us put us on on the map is also the creator of pardon my take adam pretty much i'll take that i'll take that one but you guys have also uh you know done all the work but yeah i appreciate it but uh yeah the two-time nba champion one uh you know i i i appreciate it but also i'm not a narcissist or anything like that so uh just Adam's fine.
All right, so let's do a little quick history lesson for maybe some newer AWLs, because this was literally like the second or third month. We had Kyle Wilcher on the show right before Gonzaga played in the tournament, and he just happened to drop the fact that maybe not be his fact, that Adam Morrison has an apocalypse bunker in his house.
And you came on after. We cleared it up.
But now would be a pretty cool time to have an apocalypse bunker, wouldn't you say? Yeah. Yeah.
It's more or less a regulated gun room by the state. I have to have everything locked up.
So, yeah, but it's not an underground bunker or anything but uh according to the law i have to have everything locked properly so i do how long could you survive in that room if like hypothetically you accidentally got locked in there uh not very long i don't have like uh sanitation or you know i didn't panic buy toilet paper and all that stuff like everybody did uh like i said it's just uh you know it's just a room that's got a locked door on it and then i got you know gun safes that i keep uh you know stuff that i have to it's by the law and stuff so um but yeah it uh it would make sense now to kind of have one but yes big, yeah. So obviously there are more important things going on.
There's a lot of things that are being taken away from people right now, their livelihoods, their jobs, their social lives, all that stuff. But I have to also imagine that there's like a little part of you that is extremely disappointed that it sounds like Rage Against the Machines tour might be postponed for a long time.
I was actually, I had tickets to the Portland show and I got general admission one. So, yeah, I'm pretty disappointed.
But I've seen him twice. I saw him at Coachella 07 and I saw him at the L.A.
Rising. And I had a relationship with Tom Murillo for a while and I got to meet him a couple of times.
I used to get him L and i've met uh zach dillard real good at la rising so i'm pretty fortunate uh but yeah it sucks um because they're a band that you can't go see at the casino you know when they're 65 so it's kind of to the point yeah that you got to see them now uh when there's still energy behind it so uh yeah yeah, that's one of the minor things, obviously, like you mentioned. But they're unbelievable live if you've never seen them.
All right, so the other minor thing, we got to talk a little Gonzaga hoops. Looking at – I mean, the NCAA field was so wide open this year, and Gonzaga definitely was one of those teams that they were going to get a one seed it felt like this was going to be a year where they're going to make a deep run um what being around the team and seeing that like do you think that this this team had to make up to make that deep run and how disappointing was it like talking to all the guys afterwards well I think um you know obviously I call the game so yeah I've seen them from the start of the season, obviously, to the end.
I think they had, you know, the lineup to at least get past the first weekend for sure. And we were slotted probably to be in Spokane as well as one of the sites, which is crazy.
We were going to be a number one seed and then be in Spokane. But I think, all honesty, they had, you know, a really good chance to make a Final Four.
You know how it is with NCAA tournament. The matchups, the draws matter.
We lacked depth, but we also had, you know, a lot of experience in the backcourt. We had pretty balanced scoring.
I think we were number one in teams scoring in points per game or scoring margins. So we had all the talent, but again, it's literally kind of a coin flip once you get past the first weekend.
But I definitely think they could have at least been a Final Four team if everything went right. And then you never know what can happen from them.
But it feels so ancillary talking about hoops now because it's just like, well, what if? And now, like you said, everybody's just worried about what the fuck's going to happen next. And it's just literally day to day.
So, yeah, I haven't really put much thought into it, to be honest, because we landed from the WCC tournament, and no fans, so everybody was pissed in Spokane, and then literally the next day it was like fucking no tournament. It's been crazy on that front, obviously.
I don't know, man. This shit's bananas.
So did you guys actually play in any games in that tournament before they canceled it Yeah, they won it. Because they played early.
Yeah, we won the tournament. And I was a little bit nervous going to it.
I had a birdie in my ear telling me this corona shit's going to get worse. So I was a little bit scared to get on a plane then.
So I went down there. And it was the first time I never gambled i didn't do anything i went to my room i barely went out um but yeah it was uh just there's an eerie feeling because right when the tournament ended is when you know the big 10 canceled there's acc canceled there so then you're sitting there like well fuck this is real and i was just in for, you know, two nights in a row.
I went to the UFC fight actually too. And I was like, fuck, I was just in an arena with, you know, 20,000 people that could have it.
And it's been crazy just thinking of that. You know, so, yeah, a lot of people were nervous down there before it even was announced.
Just talking to the other staff, you guys, we were doing the elbow bumps and the finger points and all that shit. Even in the media room, I didn't want to touch anything.
It's been crazy ever since, obviously. So when you were calling those games, was it weird knowing that the players on the court could probably hear what you were saying? Because there were obviously no crowd noise or anything like that? No, we had fans.
No, there was fans in the arena. Oh, that was the last tournament? Right, early in the week.
The last conference tournament, yeah. The WCC was probably the last one they completed.
Yes. And then everybody did the no fans, and then just right after that, I think they played only one game in the Big Ten tournament and then canceled it or whatever.
So I don't know. It's just been really weird sports-wise.
I mean, what the fuck do you guys even talk about? Apocalypse bunkers? Yeah. Yeah.
We just get weird with it. Our brains go to dangerous places.
We are doing kind of a memory lane, too, having some of our old-time recurring guests on because it's like this is back to when we do Skype and all that stuff, and it's weird. Yeah, it is a weird, weird time.
I had one last question. I don't know if I've asked you this, but do you still – obviously not right now – but do you still play pick-up hoops when the world is normal? I don't i i coach my daughter's basketball team i obviously call games um so i get my cup filled in regards i you know what i'm scared of is getting like an achilles tear or something i know i was uh like you pussy or something like that but like i tore an acl in the nba and me imagining rehabbing for no reason after that would just be the worst thing ever.
So I don't do shit. The last time I played was I played back to the basket one-on-one with Jonathan Williams, who played in the league for a little bit.
I got in a second and another kid, and I threw up walking to my car in the parking lot afterwards. And we didn't even do – back in the basket I mean I I'm soft as tissue paper right now so I couldn't go up and down it would be sick though if you just showed up to a YMCA wearing like yeah like a very loose fitting Heather Gray Russell athletic t-shirt and like some really short blue athletic shorts and new balances and just pretended like you didn't know what you're doing but you were were just wet from three.
Yeah. Three point line to three point line.
Yeah. I could do, I could still shoot jumpers.
I know that. But like I said, my wind is fucking awful.
And like my hamstrings hurt fucking walking up the stairs. So I don't even know what I could do right now.
But yeah, no hoops for me, man. No up and down.
I need that. I just always think about retired athletes, like how awesome it would be to just go and dominate people.
You just strap on some rec specs. You might not even need the rec specs, but it just kind of completes the look.
Yeah. John Stockton, he lives in town, and he has a Sunday league that's pretty good.
Really? He always gives me shit every time I see him, because he still plays, and he's still good, obviously. But I'm always like, John, I just, no thanks, man.
But he's always called me a pussy and, you know, in a nice way. But, yeah, he still plays.
And there's guys that played in Europe and stuff are playing it. So I could if I wanted to.
That's the only way I would do it is play with guys that played before. I love that John Stockton is getting mad at people for not showing up to his game because he just wants to feed you assists.
Yeah. He's like, you pussy, show up to a game so I can hand you the rock and get you 18 points.
He used to come to our Gonzaga practices when I was a freshman. I think it was about five or six years out the league.
He'd ride a 10-speed. He'd have his shoes on with his socks and his short shorts.
John never stretched. I don't think anybody ever knew i like never didn't believe in it and he would warm up he'd go up and down maybe twice with a basketball and then you're like all right let's go and just bust everybody's ass it was unbelievable oh my god that's incredible it was incredible he he had this doctor in utah i visited him one time after him i did did this weird chiropractic shit and held pills in your hand and did squats and stuff.
It was like a rolfer. I don't know what it was, but it worked for John.
He never stretched, never did any of that shit. I think he played 16 years without missing a game.
I have that for science, I guess. Yeah, John Stockton never stretched.
All right, man. Well, take care of yourself, and hopefully we see you sooner than later because that would mean sports are back.
And we'll talk soon. Yeah, guys.
You too. Stay safe, man.
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And now for something completely different. Okay okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is the longest serving active member of the ioc he was once the vp of the ioc he also was the first president of the world anti-doping agency it is dick pound thank you so much for joining us uh we have a lot of questions.
Obviously, we're trying to figure out where to go with coronavirus, taking away sports, and what stories to cover. And we thought you'd be great to have on because just last week, the Olympics got postponed for a year.
So let's start there. Let's start with the decision making process behind that.
What was that the last few weeks before you officially suspended it like?

And what were the different alternatives? the decision-making process behind that. What was that the last few weeks before you officially suspended it like,

and what were the different alternatives that the IOC was discussing

on how they could maybe get the games to be played this year?

Well, the alternatives were to carry on with the July 24th start

if it looked like the virus was being sufficiently contained and that the curve was rounding out, that clearly wasn't happening. So your other two alternatives are cancellation, which is something that the IOC is entitled to do if it's concerned about the safety of participants.
And I mean, up to now, it's always been because of wars. We've never had this particular threat.
You know, we had it before Rio, the Zika virus is going to end life as we knew it, but it was largely a manufactured crisis and never happened. But this is of a different order.
And then the other alternative, if you can make it happen, is to postpone. And that's sort of the middle ground that we were looking at.
It took a while to get there because, well, you can unilaterally cancel if you're the IOC. You can't unilaterally postpone.
You need to get your partners, the organizing committee and the Japanese government to come to the same conclusion, which they did. And then when we checked with the World Health Organization, they said, look, this curve is going up.
It's not coming down. So we said, all right, it doesn't look like a July 24th start will work.
Will a postponement work? Yes, that would work. Are the Japanese willing to do it? Yes, it turned out that they were.
And then you have to pick a date so you can stick a pin on a start date, And then everybody rejigs the many, many conclusions and deadlines and opportunities and obligations to meet the new date, and that's where we are now. Did it rub you the wrong way at all going through the process? It seemed like the International Olympic Committee was putting out signals saying, okay, we very clearly need to postpone, we need to postpone.
And the host committee, they seem to drag their feet on it a little bit, especially towards the end there. Did you have to put any pressure on them to help them reach that same conclusion? Not so much pressure as saying, look, we're delighted that you seem to have a reasonable handle on things in Japan.
But if you look around the world, the risk is if you persist with a July 24, 2020 date, you throw this big party and nobody can come to it because they can't travel and they haven't had a chance to practice and so on. And that would be a worse alternative for you than a postponement.
And a cancellation just puts everything in the trash bin because nothing happens. And so from the Japanese, they've got all that investment on which there's no return.
And as far as the Olympic athletes, you're concerned a whole generation of Olympic athletes gets thrown into the dust pile too. So postponement was the right answer.
So what I'm curious about is when, I don't really understand, or I don't follow how all the teams get made in the Olympic process, but were there any teams that were already decided? And then what happens to the athletes that potentially made the team, made these Olympics? Do they automatically make the next ones? Or is it just country to country they have to decide their own decision, who's on the team, who's going to be competing in the 2020, now 2021 Olympics? Yeah, it depends to some degree on the sport. In some sports, you qualify by team.
The United States is entitled to enter a team. Canada is entitled to enter a team.
What the mix of the players on the team can be determined right up until games time, practically. In other sports where you qualify on the basis of time or finish in the World Championships or whatever the particular sport decides, it looks like the International Sports Federations have said, look,

if you qualified already on that basis, you retain your qualification.

And if you haven't,

then you go into the whatever the qualification process will be for the,

for a 2021 event. And it's,

it's kind of an interesting call on the part of some of the sports

Thank you. process will be for the for a 2021 event and it's it's it's kind of an interesting call on the part of some of the sports federations because normally it's it's the best athletes in every sport that get onto the the team like in the united states if you win the trials you're in here you know it's hard to stay at the top so you might have been king of the mountain in 2020 and by the time you get to 2021 there's some young stud that's making you look like uh you know yesterday's newspaper and so there'll be some some friction in there in some sports but but that's generally it's sport by sport determination.
I imagine that you have to deal with a lot of friction from, from various bodies, whether that's you know, the host committees or the different countries out there that you're dealing with. Was this decision, did you get any blowback from it? No, I think everybody, when, when the decision was, was relieved.
I mean, I think everybody was being compelled to the conclusion that July 2020 wasn't going to work. And then what you do, you have your fingers crossed saying that, hope these old guys on the IOC don't cancel the games or something like that.
And so the fact that it was A, postponed B that we settled on a date pretty quickly so that everybody can match their training schedules and the peaking and all that sort of stuff with what they have now 16 months notice. I think everyone's satisfied that that was the right decision.
So I'm also curious in your history against the anti-doping. And you have been at the forefront, like I said at the start, you were the first president of the anti-doping agency.
And you've had a lot of run-ins with the Olympic sports, the IOC testing. First question is, were you not a fan of 90s, late 90s, early 2000s baseball? Were you not a fan of that? No.
Because that seems like – that's a tough time. Like, I get what you're saying, that we should have anti-doping, but that was pretty awesome with all the home runs.
Oh, yeah. No, there's no question about it.
When you've got guys, you know, 36-year-old guys hitting balls, they're still rising as they leave the property. Something is going on, and it's not mom's oatmeal porridge.
And so I was on baseball's case for a long time, and to their credit, they've eventually changed things. It's harder in the professional leagues because the rules are really set in accordance with the collective bargaining agreements rather than international standards that apply across all countries in the world.
So it's harder to bring about a change. I think our breakthrough there was to say to the Players Association folks, listen, why is it that you're spending all your time and energy defending guys you know are doping? And with salary caps and things like that, they're getting paid handsomely at the expense of players, say, in the infield or something like that, that are as good as or better and are not all doped up.
So why have you got your priorities right or not? And I think that penny eventually dropped, and they became much more amenable to a more robust program than they ever had before. And my second question would be, how much of an issue is steroids in today's Olympics, in today's professional sports? Do you think that we're at a time where it's better than it's ever been? Or is it still something that you see as a huge problem across the board? Still a huge problem.
The progress we've made is that we're much more able to detect the use of steroids than in the sort of late 80s and early 90s and so forth. So if you're on a steroid and you get tested, you'll get caught.
The big problem is to be able to find the athletes every day and figure out, you have to sort of reverse engineer this. If you're going to be the weightlifting gold medalist in the Olympics, what are you likely to be taking? Some kind of a steroid or cocktail involving steroids.
When are you likely to be doing it? And then we've got to be able to find you during that window because if you get through the window, the steroids are out of your system in the sense of being detectable, but you've got the benefit of a steroid program, which can last you four, maybe five years. So it's, it's kind of a cat and mouse exercise.
Yeah. And I saw the documentary and I followed your career a little bit here and you were not afraid to insert yourself into like the Russian body, their governing bodies and kind of take them head on.
Was there ever any point where you were like a little bit afraid, like maybe I should back off a little bit here? No. I mean, once you've jumped down the hole, you've got to go right to the end of it.
I'm not sure I would be a big Russian tourist these days, but I think I could probably get an entrance visa, but perhaps not an exit visa from there. But no, you just do what you have to do, and the chips will fall where they may.
I mean, basically, if I get a bad cold, it'll get blamed on Russia. Yeah.
Where's your feud with Lance Armstrong now? Because I know you had a pretty public one with Lance back in the day. Even though you never mentioned his name, I read that.
You didn't ever actually name him and he just assumed you were talking about him. Where's that stand today? Has he ever reached out or said like, hey, maybe I was wrong, maybe I did too, all those drugs? Or is it still a simmering feud? Well, he is acknowledged that throughout his professional career, he was doing this.
And in those days, you know, we're talking 96 or something like that to 2000 and change. If you won the Tour de France, you pretty well had to be on steroids.
You win it seven times in a row. You know, hello.
And that's what, eventually we tracked them down. And I must say the U.S.
Anti-Doping Agency did a good job in not getting run off as the criminal authorities did. They preferred not to have charges against them for that.
But they said, well, that's fine. You may not be charged criminally, but as far as we're concerned, we think you're doping.
We're going to assert a doping case. And eventually, Lance blinked and walked away from the arbitration proceedings.
And so he got this life ban in some sports and a significant ban for other sports as well.

Right. Right.
Now, do you have anyone that works for you who is like a,

almost like a catch me if you can situation where, you know, to,

to catch a doper, you have to think like a doper. So you got new,

you recruit somebody that has done something in the past to be on the good

guy's side.

Yeah. I was, when I was president of water,

there was a guy called Victor Conte who was with the Valco, you remember that? Barry Bonds, designer steroids. And I thought, unfortunately, it was near the end of my term, I thought, here's a guy who does know what's going on.
And if you can build a relationship of trust with him, he can probably point you in the right direction. And identify the bad coaches and what's being taken, when is it being taken, where is it coming from, who are the suppliers, all that sort of stuff.
But my successor thought of him just as a crook and not worth talking to. He said, you've got to use what sources you can.
And, you know, whistleblowers and informants are frankly a better source of information than trying to be lucky enough to catch somebody peeing into a bottle on the right day. What's your, more of a light question, what's your favorite Olympic sport that maybe we don't, I mean, you obviously were a swimmer, but what's your favorite Olympic sport summer and winter that you always are looking forward to? Well, it was interesting.
I, many years ago, was the assistant chief of the Canadian delegation in Munich. And in those days, my job was to go and watch Canadians in the preliminaries of events because we didn't get to too many finals.
But when I came back from Munich, the next games were in Montreal, and all my friends were saying, you know, what tickets should we get? Should we get swimming? Should we get gymnastics? You know, things like that. I said, volleyball.
And they're saying, volleyball? And I said, trust me, volleyball in the Olympics is not like what you thought you were playing in school. And I think probably in Montreal, the most exciting finals in the entire games were the volleyball ones, but, but you had common each and you had, you know, the Sphinx brothers and you had all kinds of fantastic other athletes, but the volleyball is, is, is really pretty special.
And in the Winter Olympics?

Winter Olympics, I kind of like the long track speed skating.

Short track is fun, but it's kind of like roller derby on ice.

But the speed and the grace and so on of the long track speed skaters is really pretty special.

Did you have anything to do with adding rugby to the Olympics?

No, not in the sense of proposing it or anything. But having rugby sevens, I thought was a great addition to the program.
And one of the advantages of it is it's got all of the elements of rugby, the speed and so so on but you can schedule matches 30 minutes apart and it means that the players can play a tournament in the 16 or 17 days of the olympic window whereas if you had the 15s with the great horses you know they can only play once a week or whatever it is so i i think it's been a great addition, and it's been great for both men and women. Do you think, just looking at us and spending the last 15 minutes with us, would you say that we are borderline professional handballers? Because there's been a lot of debate.
We had Jay Cutler on, former Bears quarterback, and he says that he could be a professional handballer. And we got the handball community very upset.
Do you think we could, just looking at us, knowing that we're Americans, we probably played tee ball, we know how to throw a ball, we could probably compete in the 2021 Japanese Olympics in handball? Well, again, when I came back from Munich, Montreal, as the the host was allowed to enter a canadian team in every sport and so i said ignorantly i said you know we're all pretty good at throwing and i played squash and all that sort of stuff so we could we should get together and become the canadian handball team i think it helps to throw i mean it's an advantage you get get in North America because we throw rather than kickballs, but it's a tough, tough game. And if you think you can just, you know, put down your spikes and then step up there and score goals and team handball, think again.
Okay. I don't know.
I still feel like we could do it, but again, that's probably, you know, you were in that same position as we are right now.

And you learned your hard lesson. We have not learned a hard lesson yet.
Going back to the Olympics that were supposed to take place this summer. What was the straw that really blew out the camel's back where the host committee said, OK, we're looking at the data.
We have to postpone. I think it was the combination of seeing the statistics around the world, not just in Japan, where that curve was not going down.
It was level for a while or just incrementally rising. But in the last four or five days before we made the decision, it had turned up and significantly up.
So, you know, this isn't going to be finished by July. It's probably not going to be finished by the end of the year.
The clock is running and we should make a decision in the interest of everybody, the Japanese spectators, broadcasters, athletes, everybody involved. Make it as fast as possible and then stick another pin in the paper and say, all right, reset to this.
We appreciate you joining us. I have one last question.
I'm sure you've been on Twitter and you've seen every time you get in the news. Have you thought about going by the name Richard? Do you get a laugh about that? Because people, Twitter has changed.

I would imagine 30 years ago is a little different.

Now it's,

you know,

whenever you make a decision,

you go viral and I'm sure you've taken a peek and been like,

Oh,

what's going on here.

And it's a lot of people just getting cheap jokes off.

Oh yeah.

No,

no.

Eventually some of these guys will get past their 14 year old giggles and move on.

But I don't, I don't, I don't go on Twitter for that. For that reason.
Somebody told me I was a week or so ago that I was trending. I said, but what are you talking about? And it's, it's the old Dick pound thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's, it's every time. Yeah.
Every time you, you have any kind of, I feel like you've been in the news a couple times in the last few years,

and every time it happens, you trend.

And I always wonder, like, growing up, were you ever like,

I'm just going to go by Richard?

Well, I did until I got to university.

And, you know, when you get to university and get sort of higher up in sports,

you tend to get – you know, you go by the –

you're not Robert, you're Bob, and Richard became Dick i mean it never the juxtaposition never occurred to me but but uh somebody there with with a big sweat at 14 years old did yeah right a lot of people just never get past that stage and it's sad i feel like if you uh grew up in america it probably would have it probably would have i think canadians maybe are a little too nice where they didn't connect it and uh and and like go after you when you were a kid oh well anyway i don't regard that as my problem it's true it's good that's a good it's a good perspective in fact i would almost say that it might help you out in in your professional job because you are the perfect spokesperson because if you ever want to get a message out you just have to release your message and then let the rest of the world as a bunch of juvenile 14 year olds they kind of will write up that story to make sure to include your name in it and your message gets out there more than it would have before so it's like almost a bonus for you and smarter than i thought yeah bad news doesn't seem so bad when it comes from Dick Pound. Like that's actually a fact you, cause everyone just goes to the name and they don't go to the bad news.
So you got a life hack there. Oh, well you never know how it's going to work out.
Yeah. Well, we appreciate you joining us.
We appreciate. Oh, one last question.
You are, uh uh you did work as a tax uh attorney right

yeah that's my job yeah okay so our producer producer producer just just doesn't do his taxes is that is that wrong that's her that sort of broke up yeah yeah no program it's breaking up It's breaking up.

There he is.

Yeah, he just doesn't do his time.

I'm losing it.

I mean, he's losing it.

That's unfortunate.

I don't know if that's the same in Canada, but I feel like you should do your taxes. Yeah, indeed.
Well, it's nice to have the problem. When is tax day in Canada? Normally, it's April 30th.
Oh, okay. Does it back this year you guys you guys are the 15th yeah

well if you choose to file it's the 15th yes our producer doesn't always follow through yes well we thank you so much we appreciate you're about to break up again yeah we appreciate you joining us and uh we're looking forward to the olympics in 2021 super well thanks for having me on. It's been fun.
All right. Thank you.

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By the way, I just got this tweet. This is what I'm talking about.
We need to do our best to bring sports back. Someone tweeted me, during this coronavirus outbreak, remember to remain at least 10 feet away from others.
If you're wondering how far that is, picture... Never mind.
Never mind. Picture a Bears wide receiver and then imagine where Trubisky actually threw the past.
I was going to say, picture a Packers wide receiver and then imagine where Chris Conti is. Shut up.
Shut up, everyone. We have thoughts and prayers, Joe Buck.
Everyone keeps tweeting Joe Buck their porn porn to announce we have Joe Buck on the show on Friday, actually an awesome interview. We won't say any more than that, but an awesome interview maybe with someone else as well.
But how did Joe Buck not see this coming? Not intended. He did not see anything coming because he closes out of him before he announces him.
I actually think that Joe Buck announcing porn would be hilarious. All I got to say is, like, this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
Just play the Randy Moss clip over top of it, and boom, announced. Duh.
Yeah, I mean, Joe Buck announcing porn would get us one step closer to sports being back in 2022.

It'd be a real shame if someone went through a bunch of old Joe Buck games

and then compiled, like, cut different parts of it to make it sound like he was.

And put it to porn?

Yeah.

Damn.

That sounds like – no one has enough time for that, Hank, right?

Because we're all busy going to work every day.

Oh, wait.

Oh, someone has a lot of time for that. Real shame.
Interesting. Real, real shame.
All right. We have – what was the other – oh, the way to stay young NFL.
The NFL confirmed today that Wild Card Weekend will have six games, if there is one, which will be unbelievable. But the extra But one of the extra games is being picked up by CBS, but also being broadcast on Nickelodeon so that it can reach a younger crowd.
I love it. I love it.
And who's announcing that game? I don't know. Steve from Blue's Clues? Jack Collinsworth.
Gronk has to be on that broadcast. Gronk will absolutely be on that broadcast.
Maybe Gronk and then just mic up Russell Wilson. Oh, yeah.
Or Phillip Rivers. No, but Russell Wilson, I feel like didn't he – I think he's like back-to-back-to-back Nick Teen Choice Award winner.
I feel like he's hosted the show before, too. Yeah, so he would be perfect.

He could get slimed in between quarters.

Why are they doing that?

To reach six-year-olds that don't want to watch football with their dads?

Well, I was going to say, it's just going to piss off a bunch of dads

who are like, I don't want to watch this on Nickelodeon.

I mean, it would be cool.

Here's the thing.

What they're going to do is probably just put a broadcast on Nickelodeon, which makes no sense if they were going to do it and it was like a fun way the score bug would be different like it would be gronk and and amanda pines and russell like it would be it'd be they would think totally outside of the box and make it like really fun and like ooze coming out of the corner of the tv but they're not're not going to. They're just putting it on another station to boost the ratings.
Instead of the Gatorade tub, it's just slime, and the coach gets dunked in it after they win the game. Right.
The ref's flags are at the bottom of a kiddie pool filled with green goop that they have to dig through to find. But what they're really doing is they're putting on Nickelodeon so they can capture the audience of everyone who just forgot to turn off their tv for whatever shows on nickelodeon right now yeah i'm ed ed and eddie hockley that'd be cool that would be cool all right should we do mount flushmore let's do mount flushmore to finish it off um cartoon network i couldn't name one i'm sure i'm going to get in that game, the Nickelodeon game, so I'll be back in it soon.
Mount Flushmore of Candy. Should we do it? Let's go.
PFC, you start. Okay.
My first one is no-brainer. Circus Peanuts.
They suck. Universally regarded as the most trash candy to ever be invented.
I don't even know why they're invented. I think they're just invented so that like dads can have candy that they know that their kids won't eat.
But the dads don't want to eat either. But still, it's something that you know that your kids won't steal from you.
Yeah, that one is just – it really makes no sense that that exists. Really, really stupid candy.
All right, my first pick, Good and Plenty, just another trash i don't get pick i don't know why that exists and it just every time i've i feel like good and plenty is one of those candies you have like once every five years and you're like oh yeah that's that's why it sucks i'll never have that again i mean even right in the name it says it's not great it's good and there's I guess there's a lot of it there's a shitload we got a lot of stuff

it's not great. It's good.
And I guess there's a lot of it. There's a shitload.
We got a lot of stuff. It doesn't really inspire confidence.
Yeah, it is the quantity over quality candy. It's the Jason Witten of candies.
It's the Frank Gore of candies. And you're Larry Fitzgerald of candies.
You don't mean that. You don't mean that about Frank Gore.
Yeah, I do. I mean it.
Hank, Frank Gore would be circus peanuts

if you know what I'm saying.

We didn't have enough dick jokes

in this podcast.

My first one, Necco wafers.

Basically like a

Smarties without the taste.

And Rolos.

Oh, I like Rolos.

Rolos are trash. You take a bite

of Rolos. I feel like every time I take a bite of Rolos tooth is coming out with it but here's why i like rolos in defense of rolos no no hold on let me just tell you i like to to uh have fake portion control and rolos comes in the little fucking things so you can basically be like oh i only had five of them i'm good now they're like

caramel chocolate mintos right they're like they're like uh uh reese's cups but with no peanut butter just caramel yeah yeah and then they come into a little sleeve like the pen and roll looking like pop yeah i agree with big cat those aren't bad yeah they are they are not that bad Well, it's a good thing it's not Big Cat's list because it's my list.

Okay.

Okay.

All right. You know what's trash? Pixie Stix.
Those are trash. It's just sugar.
Oh, my God. Disagree.
It's just sugar. It's not candy.
It's just sugar. Back in the day, Big Cat, I used to...
I know you did, Hank. You had ADHD.
I would rob my CVS so I'd get like 10 packs of Pixie St sticks. Wait, actually Rob.
Yeah. It's gone.
No, like I, like there's a CVS down the street for me. That was like, this is like the town G rated.
Yeah. It was like, before I got into like drugs and alcohol, like I just got off by like stealing candy for my CVS.
Uh, I would take like 10 packs of it, empty out a mountain, Mountain Dew bottle I would have drank, and then fill it to the top with Pixie Stix.

Okay.

And then just have a giant bottle of Pixie Stix.

I put the spike into Hank at a young age.

Pixie Stix are the laziest candy ever.

They're not candies.

They're sugar.

It's not candy.

It's delicious.

I like Pixie Stix.

You can snort them.

You can lick them.

You can pour them into other drinks and beverages.

It's great.

It's not candy. All right.
What's your next uh my neck i'm gonna go with black licorice okay and malt balls i don't hate my ball are you talking about like uh like whoppers whoppers whoppers are good i don't like i don't like to put whoppers on there you can't put malt balls because malt sounds like an old person candy person candy. No, because Whoppers has malt in it, but it's not a malt ball per cent.

No, those are whoppers.

Malt balls is my choice.

But that's not even a candy.

No one knows how you can get that candy.

You've got to be able to get the candy.

You're talking about Whoppers.

If you want to get malt balls, you just go to your local convenience store,

the bulk section, and it's like 90% malt balls. I think you've got to put Whoppers on there.
My dad was a big malt ball guy. Whoppers.
I didn't even get brand name malt balls. All right, so here's kind of in the same cousin of Whoppers is Milk Duds.
I fucking hate Milk Duds. You've never eaten a Milk Dud that didn't get stuck in your teeth for fucking hours.
The most annoying candy to eat. And it's one of those ones that's like a dog.
You're like, ooh, this is good. And then you get trapped.
It's like a fucking trap every time. Rollos.
What you just said describes how I feel about Rollos to a T. I like Milk Duds, but I think I only really enjoy them because I had braces for a long time, and

that's one thing that you're definitely not allowed to

eat and that you can't eat if you have

braces. So when you get them off, it's like, yeah, I'm free.

I can eat all the milk duds that I want.

Braces or no braces, they get stuck in everyone's

teeth no matter what, and they're the fucking

worst.

You eat a milk dug, you're eating it for the next week.

Hank? Now and later. Okay, I see that.
I see that. Hard as fuck.
Yeah. There's like Starburst, right? Like, we're Starburst.
They're way harder. They're stale.
And stale. Always stale.
Yeah, like they crack. Like, you can't.
They're just not good. And my last one, Raisinets.
Ooh,inets i like that movie yes because it makes you feel like you're actually healthy snacking yep great movie snack i would say raisinets and probably uh junior mints maybe delicious great things great things to eat during a movie all right my last one would be smarties unless you can actually think they you smart, but that's another one where it's like, they don't put Smarties. Smarties is the candy that they had before the Depression.
Like, they were like, hey, Pixie Stix. Circular Pixie Stix.
Yeah, it was before Candy Innovation. They're like, hey, here, have some candy.
It's just this sugar cap that you just fucking give them. Like, before the Dust Bowl, like during the Dust Bowl,

were like, hey, what do you got left?

I got a Smarty.

Here we go.

A little sugar left.

I think those were just like what you found at the bottom of a bag of industrial-sized sugar, like a big bag of that.

Like coagulated together.

And they're like, yeah, this is candy, but it's not candy.

Okay, what's your last pick, PFD?

My last pick, carefree gum. Carefree gum is the worst kind of gum that's ever been.
What is that? It's not even candy. That's gum.
We're not counting gum? Gum is not candy. I don't think so.
Is gum candy? Gum is gum. We could do a Mount Flush more of gum if we wanted to.
Yeah, we could do a Mount Flush more of gum. We should.
That's a separate thing. I'm going to Google this.
Is gum candy? It's not. It doesn't matter what Google says.
From a business perspective. PFT, put it this way.
PFT, put it this way. There are 137 million hits for his gum candy.
Okay, Revell. PFT, you say, Hank, I need a sugar fix.
Can you please go to the store and get me some candy? Did I come back with a pack of gum? What would you say? If you said, Big Cat, can I get a piece of candy and I handed you a fucking piece of Trident? I would say thank you. At least this is another double bubble or carefree gum.
Okay, Yellow Warheads. That's a decent pick.
What about atomic bombs? Those suck. Or what were they called? I like atomic warheads.
I like the warheads a lot. What were the red ones? Fireballs.
Fireballs. Those suck.
Yeah, those suck. Those are bad.
I should have said fireballs. Only psychopaths liked fireballs.
Yes. Only someone would be like, yeah, let me get a fireball.
It's like, what? I will eat any flavor of Warhead. And Warheads were like trade gold at the lunch table.
But the second you bring out a yellow one, get out of my face. I'm trying to think if there's anything we missed.
Do you have any juicy fruit? No, jujifruit. No, jujifruit.
I said juicy is a juicy fruit. Yeah.
Do you guys like, what is it? It's Almond Joy. And then what's the other one? Mounds.
I can't remember which one I don't like. Almond Joy has nuts.
Mounds doesn't have nuts. Heath Bar is the exact same.
Heath Bar is the craziest one because Heath Bar's aren't good, but Heath Bar ice cream is good yeah when it's crumbled when it's uh deconstructed heath bar is really really good yeah what about a payday bar those things suck oh so bad it's just peanuts yeah that's another one where it's like that's that was a pre-1945 candy we We're like, hey, you want some candy?

Here, here's a bunch of peanuts I just smashed together

and like put a little bit of caramel in it.

Yeah, back when you got paid, like you could only afford a candy bar.

Like, oh, I got an extra nickel.

Yeah.

You know what it was?

It was originally O'Henry bars.

And then they said, this costs too much to produce,

so let's just make an O'Henry bar without the chocolate coating on it and that was a payday ah okay thousand grand those are actually good though yeah 100 grand um you're right you're right on about payday introduced 1932 there you go you can tell the candy where it's like there's no candy innovation in this this was just the candy that like kids ate on halloween when they actually dressed up like ghosts everyone dressed they were seen like halloween from like the 1930s they they would dress up to actually like scare the fuck out of every living person on earth and it was terrifying yeah that was like earl dutch clark's favorite candy yes when he was in the league he probably did advertisements for it it's like marshawn lynch ate skittles earl dutch clark ate uh smarties and paydays yeah it's just like uh nelson rockefeller just jizzed in a pile of peanuts and let it freeze together and then handed to me yum payday um anything else i'm trying to think i think we got most of the bad ones these are all the ones that if you put them in a bowl, they would just all be there at the bottom. We should try.
I was going to say we should do a science experiment with all these to see what truly is the worst, but we're never going to be able to see people again. That's not true.
That's not true at all. The draft's coming up.
Also, stay woke on, did you see what J.J. Watt's doing? He's got that game Ultimate Tag.
Yeah. He's trying to dovetail off the MJ documentary, like them bullying ESPN into releasing that early.
So J.J. was like, hey, Fox, is there a way that we can release Ultimate Tag early? And so probably tomorrow Fox is going to be like you guys asked for it you got it ultimate tag

with the Watt brothers coming out

next week I could use some like

terrible summer programming games

why not throw it all out

there rock and jock give me a rock and

jack marathon all right so

Friday we have

Joe Buck and we have the review

of King of

Kong fistful quarters so everyone

make sure you watch you can watch it on YouTube

so make sure you watch it

Thank you. Joe Buck, and we have the review of King of Kong, Fistful of Quarters.

So everyone, make sure you watch.

You can watch it on YouTube, so make sure you watch it.

We're trying to book a guest from it.

We shall see.

It's better than I remember.

It's one of my favorite documentaries.

It's incredible, incredible documentary.

Okay, we'll see everyone Friday.

Love you guys.

Take me on She said my love is so soft I said I'm so soft I'm proud of her He did it so soft She's not no song She's not no song Yeah, no talking away I don't know what I have to say I've it anyway Today's another day to find you shining away I'll be coming for your lover, okay Say after me It's not better to be safe than so Say come to me You think it'm so sorry. I got so sorry.
I'm driving it off.

I'm eating it so sorry.

I'm not going to go so long.

Take me off.

She said my love is so sorry.

I got so sorry.

I'm driving it off.

I'm eating it so sorry.

I'm not going to go so long.

Yeah.

I'm not going to go. I'm not going to go.
I'm not going to go. I'm not going to go.
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