Rachel Nichols, NFL Free Agency + Mark From Love Is Blind

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Speaker 3 On today's Pardon My Take, we have have Rachel Nichols, Love is Blind, a recap, episodes six through 10. Mark from Love is Blind calls in, NFL free agency, Fire Fest, and much, much more.

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Today is Friday, March 20th,

Speaker 3 and I should be balls deep in college basketball right now.

Speaker 5 But we're not. Let's not think about where we should be.

Speaker 3 Let's talk about where we are.

Speaker 5 Okay, I get it.

Speaker 5 This should be the time where Joey Fatone is all over my television.

Speaker 5 The impractical jokers are invading my fever dreams that I have in the middle of the day when I pass out watching Konzaga beat Iona by 40 points.

Speaker 3 But we're not there.

Speaker 5 So let's just turn the page.

Speaker 3 Let's move on.

Speaker 3 PFT, listen. It's only going to be a few more times that I can say that.
And I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it again on Sunday night because this is just the reality.

Speaker 3 I am actually nervous. I'm at the point now, PFT, where I'm nervous that sports may never come back.

Speaker 3 So the way I'm thinking is we have to enjoy all we have left is just the anniversary of sporting events.

Speaker 3 Like I will celebrate when the Kentucky Derby will be supposed to be taking place because there will be no Kentucky Derby that day. And this is all we have.

Speaker 3 In 20 years from now, we will just be like, oh, this is Super Bowl Sunday. It's a national holiday.
Like, what do you do on Super Bowl Sunday? Nothing. We just stay inside.

Speaker 3 I don't.

Speaker 3 Don't even say that.

Speaker 5 Don't even say, because I've reached the point where it started to hit me that football season might get pushed back.

Speaker 3 And yeah, yeah, now it's real.

Speaker 5 Now it's real. So

Speaker 5 many people are saying that the biggest get in the history of part of my take for interviews is Mark from Love is Blind, and he's on our show later on today. And I think that's probably true.

Speaker 5 Close second would be Dr. Fauci.
And if you don't want football to get pushed back, then listen to what Dr. Fauci says.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes. So, all right, we're not going to do, we're not going to obviously dwell on coronavirus on every episode.

Speaker 3 I just, this one especially, the fact that it was the tournament today, it just hurts. And people are tweeting me, like, hey, who do you like?

Speaker 3 And some guy just tweeted me, who do you like in Gonzaga versus like East Carolina or something? Don't do that, dude. Don't come on.
Don't do that.

Speaker 5 The only thing is, like, at least most people or a lot of people aren't working as normal. And that's kind of like a similar vibe this weekend.

Speaker 5 Like, just, if you were to tell me that everyone in America was just putting in normal eight-hour workdays on this Thursday and Friday, and there was no basketball, that's worse, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 3 then at least you know our bodies are used to spending these days on couches okay that's actually a good point good spin zone I also have a spin zone you guys right now are looking at the guy who just purchased an 80 pound weight vest so I'm gonna get back in shape I'm gonna start walking around Brooklyn with a weight vest probably wrecked my back but I made that purchase yesterday I wanted you guys to know that uh your boy is gonna be looking mighty fine when this whole coronavirus thing passes so that's like uh you're getting back to last summer 80 pounds yeah 80 pounds no that would be like a 30 pound 40 pound weight I'm talking 80 pounds I'm gonna be walking around like Zion I need I'm gonna need to see some stats that compare how many steps you take now that you have the 80 pound vest on as opposed to how many steps you're taking before because my guess it would be proportionally a lot less oh what what now that i have it yeah yeah well we'll see i i haven't it just arrived today, so tomorrow will be the first day.

Speaker 3 We're going to really see if this weight vest works out. I do think there's a chance that I hurt myself in a very, very bad way.
But before that happens, I'm going to be getting really good.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm going to find me another guy who's going to be walking around with an 80-pound tactical vest in Brooklyn. You can't.

Speaker 5 I wish I had a weight vest. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 5 I've got my biker gang with me, Booger, Matt Leinert, and Cliff Averill. And we're calling ourselves the Buns of Anarchy.
It's pretty sweet. So you can link up with us and ride tomorrow.

Speaker 3 Get a weight vest. We should just honestly, we should make a pact where it's like

Speaker 3 what's that stupid movie? Or maybe it's not even a movie. Maybe it's just an urban legend, you know, like the pregnancy pack that chicks make in high school.

Speaker 3 We should make a weight vest pack that we'll all wear our weight vests until coronavirus ends.

Speaker 5 And then just get like core up?

Speaker 3 Dude, legs for days.

Speaker 5 My only thing is, if you are ordering an 80-pound weight vest, you must really hate your postal carrier. Like, what a pain in the ass that is to be delivering an 80 pounds worth of weight.

Speaker 3 Hold on. Listen,

Speaker 3 I thought about that. I thought about being a good citizen of the earth.
I bought a 50-pound weight vest with 30 extra pounds that can be added on. That was the smart thing to do.

Speaker 3 Two separate packages.

Speaker 5 I might just walk everywhere with just Leroy on my shoulders.

Speaker 3 There you go. Hank, why are you shooting?

Speaker 5 You're getting a 30-pound weight vest.

Speaker 3 Why are you shaking your head, Hank? I just appreciate the fact that you really put the thought and effort instead of getting 80 80 pounds. You got the bonus packs.
I'm not a monster.

Speaker 3 I'm not a monster. I'm a good person.
I'm not going to do that to someone. I can imagine.
I know the people, like the door person in my building, like there's one that could probably handle it.

Speaker 3 There's one that probably couldn't. So I didn't want to take the risk of having him have to pick up 80 pounds.
And then, boom, we got a whole other issue on our hands.

Speaker 5 I mean, a strong body means a strong immune system. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 I'll think about it.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I just, I like to wear tight-fitting clothes and not really like baggy stuff.
So I don't know if I can fit an 80-pound weight fest underneath my extra medium t-shirt.

Speaker 5 I trick people into thinking that I'm in better shape than I am just by wearing tighter shirts. Right.

Speaker 3 I'm in that portion, though, where I'm going to start buying just random shit on Amazon every single day. And a lot of it's going to be totally unnecessary.
So that was just the first thing I bought.

Speaker 3 Like there's going to be a lot more where that came from.

Speaker 3 I was on, I was, I was searching in the video game category, and I'm like the classic, like, get a video game, play it for like an hour, and then kind of put it away.

Speaker 3 And I spent like $300 on like video game. Like, I'm going to be decked out.
Like, yes, headgear, camera, like

Speaker 3 whole works. 2007

Speaker 3 college basketball 2K with JJ Reddick on the cover just showed up with my Xbox 360. So I love it.
Piecing it back together.

Speaker 3 Civilization in my world is coming back together by weight vests and video games from 15 years ago.

Speaker 5 I might get back into flight simulators. I was really into those when I was in middle school and in high school.

Speaker 3 You can kill a good two to three hours.

Speaker 3 Right. Be careful.

Speaker 3 Flight simulators.

Speaker 3 And then you like,

Speaker 3 I'm doing a flight simulator. You could kill.
That's a sentence that, you know, let's just be careful.

Speaker 5 No, I'm so

Speaker 5 I might be triggering some of the keyword searches that Carrie Matheson is tuned into right now in Pakistan somewhere.

Speaker 5 No, I listen, it's a great way to spend a few few hours, but the problem is you just

Speaker 5 learn a lot of dumb facts about airplanes that you can never get out of your brain for the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 But maybe I feel like that's a good use of my time right now.

Speaker 3 How do they fly? How do they stay in the air?

Speaker 5 That's something that no one ever really knows the answer to.

Speaker 3 It doesn't matter how long you've been a pilot, Hank.

Speaker 5 The mystery of flight, that's what makes it. so intoxicating is because even the premier scientists don't know how it works.
But to honor my uncle Sully, I feel like

Speaker 5 that's the least I can do in these times.

Speaker 3 All right. Last thing before we get to a little more NFL free agency, and then we'll do our Fire Fest and Rachel Nichols.

Speaker 3 We have gotten to a point now

Speaker 3 where, and this has been a theme for every single show this week, but the Big Black Cock has now, like, I'm seeing shadows. I'm seeing things in the bushes.

Speaker 3 People will send me links, like actual links. Like, I'll get links.

Speaker 3 Like, my dad will send me a link and I'll be like, it's an actual link that I should read this article and I'm just waiting for the for the big black clock to just show up and I'm like people send me pictures and I'm like okay where is it where is it where is it it's become like half of my text messages are just that we are we're doing it on our thread like when does this stop we have to stop I don't know.

Speaker 5 It's kind of like the ring, except if you look at the picture of the BBC, it just makes you look for other pictures of the BBC everywhere that you see it.

Speaker 5 Like every like innocuous picture that comes across the timeline but I think that there's some there's some doubt that has been cast into my mind about whether or not this guy's actually dead Wood so Wood might be alive

Speaker 5 just I'm not from what I'm not buying the Vice investigation first of all the Vice that website was started by a guy who's like a neo-Nazi right now and so we are we are anti-Nazi podcasts we're tricking through we've we've accepted that we've admitted that and we're standing on the on that hill waving that flag but I don't trust Vice's reporting on this I think that they talked to a known pornographer and just took his word for it and said, Oh, yeah, that guy's dead.

Speaker 5 Don't worry about it. Stop digging any further.
And then Vice came back and they're like, Oh, yeah, we've got shipments of heroin that are coming over from Australia we have to deal with.

Speaker 5 So I'm just going to take this guy at his word and not dig any deeper at all. So I think that I think there's a possibility that Wood's still alive.

Speaker 5 So, Wood, if you're a listener of the show, reach out. We'd love to have you on.

Speaker 3 Here's the only reason I'll push back on that. Knowing how

Speaker 3 the year 2020 works and how people's brains work, if Wood was still alive, he would be charging $250 on Cameo right now. And we would all be getting fresh, new live

Speaker 3 pictures that would then take it to a whole different level. We would then have to start questioning what we're doing in general.
He'd have an OnlyFans account that would be popping.

Speaker 5 popping it would just be him sitting sitting on the side of his bed and just sitting there sharing the camera and just racking up $20 tokens it would actually just be him It would be like a Photoshop hack.

Speaker 3 He would just have a green screen. So you would just have him put him into real life, into other situations.
And that's how the Photoshop works.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it kind of like the bagel boss. He would be the bagel boss of pornography where he gets real famous and then all of a sudden he's everywhere.

Speaker 5 Or I could see him going the other way where a guy like that just might be totally off the grid.

Speaker 5 Because if you're that big and you've got a dick that's that huge, you really don't have to work that hard in life.

Speaker 5 You've got, you know, know, the red carpet's been rolled out for you by the good Lord up above.

Speaker 3 You just bringing up Bagel Boss bummed me out because like, remember when that was our biggest issue? Will Bagel Boss fight Lenny Dykstra or not?

Speaker 3 That was the world's biggest issue that was at hand. Like, will Bagel Boss actually fight someone in Rough and Rowdy or

Speaker 3 some type of pay-per-view?

Speaker 5 But you know what's great is that for about five minutes today,

Speaker 5 I forgot about everything that was going on when Joe Flacco got cut and there was talk about Jameis Winston maybe going to the Redskins.

Speaker 5 I was back in my normal brain. You know how people are saying that

Speaker 5 some people, I mean Mike Florio, is saying that the NFL should have suspended free agency because it's not the right time to be discussing this. I'm going to take it the exact opposite.

Speaker 5 I think that the entire world and the United States should put more resources, like in World War II, when we turned Ford factories into building like B-52 bombers.

Speaker 5 We should be putting more resources into covering the NFL because it's such a welcome distraction to be thinking about that stuff.

Speaker 3 When you texted today that Tom Brady had not officially signed anywhere yet, it got me excited because what we really need is for Tom Brady to hem and haw,

Speaker 3 decide he's going back to the Patriots, then decide he's going back to the Bucs. So basically just go like a double Josh McDaniels and have this be a three-week ordeal where he's like, you know,

Speaker 3 he actually puts out a statement, like,

Speaker 3 actually, forever a patriot. And then in two weeks from then, he's like, okay,

Speaker 3 but actually now forever a patriot, but I'm going back to the Bucs. And have this just be something that can keep us occupied? Because I totally agree with you.

Speaker 3 The only thing that's keeping us going right now in terms of sports is what's going on in NFL free agency. Where's Jameis Winston going to sign?

Speaker 3 The fact that the Bears got Nick Foles and is so perfect, by the way, that Nick Foles, like, he's just, it's just more. I know he's a Super Bowl MVP, but it's not going to change anything.

Speaker 3 The Bears are still kind of stuck in what they are. Todd Gurley gets cut.
Everyone says, wow, that's crazy, even though it's not crazy at all because it was a terrible contract at the time.

Speaker 3 Like, all these things are keeping us going.

Speaker 5 But with Todd Gurley, I know, I know inside my own head that it's never smart to pay a free agent running back or just a running back in general a lot of money and to link him up to a long-term contract.

Speaker 5 But I also think every time there's a really good running back that has a great season like this is the guy he's worth it lock him up like derrick henry right now i feel like you should lock him up to a long-term contract christian mccaffrey lock him up pay him a lot of money um ezekiel lock him up alvin kamara lock him up but it's none of those are going to be good takes three years from now and i know that but in the we're all prisoners of the moment when it comes to running backs so like a couple years ago when they signed todd gurley this contract i was like yeah hell yeah todd gurley is a game-changing running back sign him up but i i do know that ultimately this is my brain deceiving my own brain.

Speaker 3 Yes, absolutely. So he signed, I'm looking at it right now.
When he signed his contract, I'm sure everyone was like, oh my God, that's so much money.

Speaker 3 And then the Rams just cut him with three years left on his contract. So, I mean, this is how they all work.

Speaker 3 It's crazy to, you know, whenever you see those numbers, we talked about it on Monday's show. You see the numbers, everyone freaks out.

Speaker 3 And then the team ends up structuring it so they can always get out of it in two or three years.

Speaker 3 And that's why the Nick Foles thing, like for the Bears, Nick Foles is not going to probably be on the Bears in two years because the way his contract works, they can cut him after a year.

Speaker 3 So this is really just Ryan Pace trying to save his job, trying to throw everything at this year where they can't lose the same way they lost last year. And by that, I mean Mitch Trubisky being bad.

Speaker 3 So they're like, if we have a backup plan in Nick Foles or maybe a starters plan.

Speaker 3 And things go south with one of these guys, we can at least throw this out there and hope we catch lightning in a bottle and not have the same disappointing year and maybe save our jobs.

Speaker 5 So, where are you at right now with Nick Foles? Are you the mindset that iron sharpens iron and that Trubisky is going to show up and start the season as the starter?

Speaker 5 Or do you think that Foles is going to get into training camp and clearly be the superior quarterback? Because I saw him last year on the Jaguars and Nick Foles, whoo, yeah,

Speaker 3 he's not great.

Speaker 3 His career is incredibly baffling. Like, I mean, he was almost out of, he almost retired, and then he won a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 Remember the year that he threw 27 touchdowns and two interceptions with Chip Kelly? Like, he has had such highs and such lows, and you don't know what you're going to get.

Speaker 3 Again, it's pretty much lightning in a bottle. I think the plan is going to be they still, the still, the best possible scenario is Mitch Trubisky somehow is a good quarterback.

Speaker 3 Now, if you want me to put a percentage on it, it's probably 5%.

Speaker 3 That's still the best possible scenario because you use a draft pick on him. You could control him for the fifth year.

Speaker 3 So that is what they should be hoping for, that they get to training camp and Mitch wins the job and wins it convincingly. What about this? He's got better competition now.

Speaker 3 What I think is going to happen is Nick Foles is going to win the job, but I also think Nick Foles has had injury issues. So it's going to be one of those weird mishmash.

Speaker 3 Like Mitch is going to start at some point. Then will you bring Nick Foles back? I would put it at both guys.
Like neither guy has a chance in my mind to start more than 13 and a half games.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So what you should hope for is for Mitch Trubisky to start the season and just keep you in the hunt, keep you on that get in the hunt graphic because Mitch has got you there for the last couple of years and then have Nick Foles come in and take over some point like late November, maybe let's call it week 12.

Speaker 5 Get Nick Foles in as a starter because that's as the weather turns colder, that's when Nick Foles starts to play well.

Speaker 5 So get him in there and then he's he's your closer for the season and then he's your postseason starter.

Speaker 3 Here's what Nick Foles does do by all accounts. And I know there was the Carson Wentz-Nick Foles thing where

Speaker 3 there was rumors that the locker room liked Nick Foles more than Carson Wentz. That was dispelled over time and time again.
But I'm a big believer in kind of where there's smoke, there's fire.

Speaker 3 They probably didn't hate Carson Wentz, but they probably liked Nick Foles more than anything. I think Nick Foles is a great guy for the locker room.
I think he is going to, just his presence.

Speaker 3 will help with just like, we're not totally fucked. Do you know what I mean? That feeling of we're totally fucked if Mitch Trubisky isn't somehow good next year.

Speaker 3 And now, if Mitch Trubisky is what he was last year, which I expect him to be, which is not good, you at least have someone there who can salvage your season and have the defense buy in and be like, hey, we can actually still win this thing.

Speaker 3 What about Club Dub?

Speaker 5 Are we renaming that Club Chubb?

Speaker 5 Knicks around?

Speaker 3 I like that. I like that.
I like that a lot. I like that a lot.
Yeah, Club Chubb. Close Club Chubb.
Do we have any other

Speaker 3 Edelman? Do you see Edelman maybe wants to go to the Bucs? Oh, really? That's weird. Yeah, that's a shocker.

Speaker 3 What do you think about that, Hank? I think it'd be fun to watch if you're a Bucs fan.

Speaker 3 Do you have a Bucs tattoo yet?

Speaker 5 No, I don't.

Speaker 3 Listen, I'm not going to not root for the Bucks. I'm not yet.
So that means you're going to get one. I'm not going to not root for the Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 You're not going to divide me and Tom and Jules. It's not going to happen.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 5 Fine.

Speaker 5 Are you going to get a Tom Brady 12 jersey?

Speaker 3 No, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 This is like, I'm going to deal with this for the next year and then I will block it from my memory for the next 30 years of my life.

Speaker 5 Where are you at right now mentally knowing that Tom Brady has yet to sign the contract?

Speaker 3 Well, he's going to get his pizza. So that's where he's at mentally.

Speaker 3 I was just, yeah, that my pizza's ready.

Speaker 3 I mean, I still have hope.

Speaker 3 I checked yesterday and I was like, am I crazy or have I not seen a shepherd tweet with any like contract details? There's still hope. he's not nothing's official yet in fact

Speaker 5 i've seen numerous shifter tweets explaining how he has not signed the contract yet and how there are numerous details that still need to be ironed out

Speaker 3 cold feet cold feet i mean 20 years like you if you date someone for 20 years and you just break up with them for someone else it's going to be hard to process and you might want to immediately have buyers remorse and want to go back Yeah, it's it probably like Tom Brady is probably talking to Bruce Arians and he's like, hey, so what's our plan with like coronavirus?

Speaker 3 And Bruce is like, I don't know, we're just going to fuck fuck it and just like see what happens.

Speaker 3 Whereas Bill Belichick probably has the vaccine and is ready to, he's like, we're going to start OTAs no matter what.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Ernie Adams has been secretly infecting everybody on the team with the vaccine. Remember the Patriots plan was all sick last year? Yep.

Speaker 5 I was Ernie Adams infecting the entire team, making sure they had the antibodies so they're going to come into this season even stronger than before.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Tom,

Speaker 5 I think Bruce Arians would probably just be like, if you asked him what his game plan was for mitigating the coronavirus, he'd be like, we're going to throw the ball deep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's all we're going to do. We're going to throw the ball deep and we're going to make sure we all drink at least a half a bottle of rum before we go to bed at night.

Speaker 3 Coronavirus can't catch you if you're drunk while you sleep.

Speaker 5 If your blood is above a 0.2%

Speaker 5 alcohol, then it just kills the virus.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 All right. Before we get to Rachel Nichols, should we do a little fire fest? I mean, I don't even know what fire fests are anymore because the whole world is a fire fest.

Speaker 5 I mean, I guess it's kind of news that Sean Payton said

Speaker 5 the coronavirus, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's true. And he also was at a, I think he was at Oaklawn.
He was at a racetrack like four days ago, partying.

Speaker 5 Of course, he was.

Speaker 3 That kind of sucks.

Speaker 3 But yeah, Sean Payton had it.

Speaker 5 It could be one of his motivational things because he's like that big Bill Parcells guy that like puts mousetraps around the locker room or like gas cans and stuff. He could be like, I'm sick, guys.

Speaker 5 I'm sick. I'm sick and tired of losing in the NFC divisional round every year.

Speaker 3 Well, here's the issue. Every single person, like Tom Hanks has ruined it for celebrities because every single person, you know, newsworthy person, athlete, anyone

Speaker 3 who it's like, this guy has coronavirus. You're like, yeah, but Tom Hanks already had it.
So who cares? Like he, he has completely cocked the celebrity market on coronavirus news.

Speaker 3 Like I cannot be phased. I'm trying to think of who out there.

Speaker 3 Kanye? No.

Speaker 3 No. I'd probably be like, yeah, that makes sense.
Maybe the Kardashian, if the whole Kardashian clan, that would probably get some jokes off.

Speaker 5 Chris has definitely thought about doing that.

Speaker 3 Oh, by the way, Arnold Schwarzenegger, shout out to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Actually, I'll start off with my Fire Fest.

Speaker 3 That was my Firefest because he had a PSA message where he told everyone to stay inside while he was smoking a cigar in his jacuzzi in his like probably 10,000 square foot home.

Speaker 3 I'm sure you guys can relate. I don't know, you know, anyone listening in a big city can relate.
Your apartment is a fine size until you have to lock down in it.

Speaker 3 And then you're like, holy shit, this place is tiny. Get me the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 So I appreciate any celebrity telling everyone younger than them to please stay inside while they enjoy their like private gym, pool, you know, private chef, and probably like a go-kart track that they can hop on whenever they want in their backyard.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you guys are really doing a good job and making sure you save the planet.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they've got a lazy river that that runs. Their inside is like a normal person's outside of their house.

Speaker 5 I've got a stand-up shower and I've got a couple leftover cigarettes from three months ago.

Speaker 5 So I can't smoke a cigar in my hot tub, but I'm sure that Arnold Schwarzenegger's hot tub is about the size of my apartment.

Speaker 3 Yes, yeah. It's just, it really does.
The walls come closing in very quickly when you're just spending all day in the same place.

Speaker 3 Hank?

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest is that the other producer of the show, Bubba, is apparently a narcoleptic dog who has trouble waking up for things. I don't even know.
It's 8 o'clock right now. He's nowhere to be found.

Speaker 3 We're like three months into the year and he's missed like four interviews slash show recordings.

Speaker 3 And this is the first time using this technology. We kind of spent like an hour earlier making sure that the me recording it, him backing me up situation worked.

Speaker 5 And so we're going into this kind of blind uh so that's my fire fest that's weird that a 24-year-old producer part of my take would fall asleep during skype shows that's uh unprecedented

Speaker 3 it is it is

Speaker 5 that i was 22.

Speaker 3 i forgot about that

Speaker 3 i forgot i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't like fall asleep during the like miss the coach oh interview and then a week later fall asleep

Speaker 3 later fall asleep it's also eight o'clock right now so it really yeah it's not super super, super late.

Speaker 3 And if I just have anxiety because this is the first time we've used this program, and I'm just like, is this going to work? I hope so because the backup is asleep. I'm sure nothing will happen.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No one will ever listen to this episode. These are the lost tapes.

Speaker 3 All right, people.

Speaker 5 My fire fest of the week. It's actually OJ Simpson's Fire Fest of the week.
So a lot of golf courses are shutting down, and most of them are saying that they're all in danger of being shut down.

Speaker 5 And OJ says that if every golf course shuts down, he's going to go crazy. So, thoughts and prayers to OJ Simpson.
Well, really, thoughts and prayers to us.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because OJ going crazy, he kind of needs an activity at all times where he's only wearing one glove. And there's either golfing or there's murdering.

Speaker 5 So if he can't golf, guess which one it's going to be? Yeah.

Speaker 5 So that's OJ is on a one-man mission to make this coronavirus look like child's play.

Speaker 5 My other Fire Fest of the Week week is

Speaker 5 the entire state of Pennsylvania is shut down so the only emergency services and

Speaker 5 things that sustain life are allowed to be open in Pennsylvania I can't tell if that means sheets and Wawas are open or not

Speaker 5 okay okay good then that's all you need that's fine then I retract that fire fest is business as usual your fire fest is not being is is not being a criminal in Philadelphia because you can do whatever you want is that what you're saying

Speaker 5 i i don't follow i don't track that hank what do you mean

Speaker 3 they're like not arresting people for basically any crime now because they're dealing with so much other stuff oh wow oh wow okay

Speaker 5 so it's like again as i said business as usual in philadelphia

Speaker 5 okay it also dawned on me yesterday we should have done this at the end of our interview with dr faucher last question should have been do you wash your apples yeah

Speaker 5 that would have been a great way to end it but it made me think that this disease is turning turning all of America into Mike Greenberg.

Speaker 5 This is how Greene lives his everyday life, washing his hands for 50 seconds at a time, like just pumping hand sanitizer down his sleeves with like a little IV bag that he squeezes his armpit on to make himself self-lubricate every time he shakes somebody's hand.

Speaker 5 There he is.

Speaker 5 We're just doing cosplay for Mike Greenberg.

Speaker 3 Bubba just showed up. Hey, what's up, Bubba?

Speaker 3 What's up, Liam? Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Bubba just showed up. PFT, about that.

Speaker 3 I've been thinking about this a lot, and it's kind of something fucked up to think about, but how many times do you think you have washed coronavirus off your hands?

Speaker 5 I've killed the shit out of coronavirus probably six or seven times.

Speaker 3 It's a wild thought to think about, but now that I'm washing my hands for the proper amount of time, which like I was big time either don't wash your hands or just like maybe rinse a little bit with the water.

Speaker 3 Now that I'm actually going hard in the paint with the soap, I think I've just, I think I've fucked this coronavirus thing up like, yeah, a dozen times.

Speaker 5 Isn't it the FDA should release guidelines saying that you should wash your hands before you use the restroom right now, not after, because like, what are the chances I've got coronavirus on my dick right now?

Speaker 5 Right. Probably slim to none.
Well, I'm not going out there and like just tossing my hog onto countertops all day. So that's probably cleaner than my hands are.

Speaker 5 So I really I should be protecting my groin from the disease and using hand sanitizer before I even hit that zipper.

Speaker 3 Well, I had a real menogenius moment earlier today when they're like, keep saying, don't touch your face. And it connected with me that they say don't touch your face with your hands at all.

Speaker 3 And then also everyone is buying all the toilet paper. Everyone should just start wiping their ass with their fingers.

Speaker 5 Let's get it.

Speaker 3 Does that not solve all the world's problems? It does. I think that

Speaker 5 I think you just did it right there.

Speaker 3 I think that's it, right?

Speaker 5 Hank is giving us the shifty eyes. Hank doesn't understand the logic.

Speaker 3 Hank, sorry. Hey, big cat.

Speaker 5 Don't introduce facts, logic, and reason to Hank because he just thinks emotionally. And he's thinking,

Speaker 3 oh, it's weird. Oh, wait.

Speaker 5 I feel like it's disgusting to wipe my ass with my hands, but the fact says it's healthier, Hank.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 Every room would smell like shit, though. Yeah, but we wouldn't have coronavirus because you wouldn't touch your fucking face with your shitty ass hands.

Speaker 3 Sorry, would that hurt your feelings that

Speaker 5 your whole living room would smell like ass all the time?

Speaker 3 Introduced by that, Hank? That would be, yeah, that's disgusting.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interview with Rachel Nichols. We talk a little MBA,

Speaker 3 when it's going to come back, catch up with her.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here she is, our friend, Rachel Nichols.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests. Unfortunately, we were going to have you on when we were going to talk about the NBA winding down and getting the playoffs ready.

Speaker 1 Instead, we're talking about the NBA being suspended indefinitely, and we don't know when it's coming back. It is Rachel Nichols, host of the jump.
Are you still, what's the policy?

Speaker 1 Are you guys doing Skypes? Are you guys telecommuting the jump every day? Telehealth. Telehealthing.

Speaker 7 Well, first of all, I thought you were going to tell me when the NBA was coming back.

Speaker 8 That's why I called it.

Speaker 1 Well, Leroy's heard that it could be like July, August. Well,

Speaker 1 I've convinced myself that it could be as early as mid-June, but I also know when I say that to myself, I'm being an absolute idiot, and it's total wishful thinking.

Speaker 1 But I do keep saying to myself, like, okay,

Speaker 1 mid-June, that feels right. They'll do mid-June, then we'll play the finals the first week of August, and then we'll do the NBA 2021 or 2021 season starting December 25th.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, look, there's people who've been pushing for a schedule change for a long time, right? Who wanted the NBA calendar to shift to maybe fewer games, right?

Speaker 7 72 games, maybe even less than that. Who wanted the NBA calendar to start in December, so maybe on Christmas, so you're not competing as much with football.
Those people may get their wish.

Speaker 7 And Adam Silver's been pushing for that mid-season tournament or a mid-season break. We're definitely getting a fucking break.
It's more break than I can handle, frankly.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 1 If you'll just bear with me, I want to just start this interview by asking you questions as if the NBA season wasn't pushed back indefinitely right now because we did want to have you on to talk about Giannis and James Harden and about that interview.

Speaker 1 I feel like there are players in this league that have like a Rachel Nichols button on their desk for whenever they want to start some serious beef or get some headlines, they smash that button.

Speaker 1 You fly into town, you're like, okay, I'm going to do the biggest interview of the season and get this new big storyline out there. What was the setup like for that interview?

Speaker 7 Was it like the bat signal? Is it kind of like that?

Speaker 1 Exactly. It's like we need to have, some shit needs to go down.
We need ratings. So let's get Rachel on the bottom.

Speaker 7 I want like a good icon, though. You guys got to think of like a good thing.
A bat in the sky is one thing.

Speaker 7 I want something good. So just work on that.

Speaker 1 Work out that for me, okay? It's

Speaker 1 the portion of your set that used to have a painting on it before Bill Walton took it off. It's just a blank wall.
That's what that is.

Speaker 7 No, I mean, it's kind of been simmering for a while, and I don't think people quite realized it.

Speaker 7 And it goes back to when James Harden was going for MVP and Giannis won it last year, and there was a pretty heavy chorus from the Rockets organization, not just the fans, saying that Giannis should not have won MVP and that James Harden should have won it last year and kind of explaining all the reasons.

Speaker 7 You know the Rockets, they like to have all their explanations and charts and graphs and astrology maps,

Speaker 7 explaining why they thought that Giannis should not have been MVP. And Giannis took that personally, it seems like.
And he's been getting in these like little side digs at Harden this season.

Speaker 7 So when it came time to select the all-star teams, Giannis and LeBron James were on there and they were going through their teams.

Speaker 7 And James Harden was still on the board, quite some time, was still on the board. And Charles Barkley, never afraid to take a shot, was like, oh, neither one of you wants the dribbler.

Speaker 7 You don't want the dribbler. And Giannis chimed in with, you know, I want someone who's going to pass me the ball.
So that was the first thing. And we took Kemba Walker over James Harden.

Speaker 7 Kemba is awesome. I love Kemba.
You love Kemba. Kemba's never been an MVP.
James Harden is obviously of a caliber player, three times, three seasons in a row, leading scorer.

Speaker 7 So it felt like a slight that Giannis passed him over for Kemba.

Speaker 7 Then after the all-star game, Giannis was explaining what happened in the fourth quarter because a great fourth quarter, right? In the All-Star game, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 It was awesome.

Speaker 7 He said, yeah, our team, we just threw the ball to anyone that James Harden was defending.

Speaker 1 I like it that. So there's been...

Speaker 5 A lot.

Speaker 7 And then James, of course, saying what he said to me about saying, you know, hey, I wish I was just seven feet tall, no scale, that sort of thing. But, you know, I got to have scale.

Speaker 7 I got to develop my skill.

Speaker 1 Okay, so is there a chance, first of all, there we have a beef, gentleman. Yes.
There we have a beef. Therein lies the beef.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance, did you talk to either of the guys or both of them and be like, have you seen the other guy play basketball?

Speaker 1 Because James Harden is top 10 in assists, more assists than Kemba Walker. And Giannis, if you watch Giannis, guess what? He isn't just good because he's seven feet.

Speaker 1 He's good for many different reasons. So is there a chance that maybe we just need to be like, hey, have you seen a highlight of his? Or have you seen him play recently?

Speaker 1 Because maybe they're just not watching each other and just using like the worst that they find on NBA Reddit and then just using those to throw out there.

Speaker 7 See, this is again where you at PMT can do an educational service and maybe just, you know, provide the people, including James Harden and Yannis Echo Cupo, with some highlight-worthy, you know, clips or something like that.

Speaker 7 And I would say that both of these gentlemen have plenty of time to sit at home right now and watch YouTube clips of each other.

Speaker 7 So maybe by the time they come back in October or next year, they'll peace in our time.

Speaker 1 If we can just get Houston-area strip clubs to play Bucks highlights, then I think James Harden will be able to see Giannis play and gain some real respect for him. He's probably sheltering in place

Speaker 1 inside.

Speaker 1 Now that I'm saying it out loud, yeah. Exactly.
That was smart of him.

Speaker 7 Look, everyone makes their own family in these situations, right?

Speaker 1 So you have to know what your nucleus, your circle is.

Speaker 7 I'm not here to judge what anyone else's made family is.

Speaker 1 All right, so who would have won MVP? Let's just assume that, well, I'm hoping and praying that the season will continue. But if you had to vote on it right this second, who wins the MVP?

Speaker 1 Is it LeBron or is it Yannis?

Speaker 7 Well, it's funny because, you know, people say all the time in sports, well, if the season ended today, and my answer to that when someone says that on my set is always like, yeah, it would be really big news.

Speaker 7 And now, in fact, we're talking about possibly the season having, if we, even if they restart up in July, right, and play some playoffs, I don't think they'll play more than a couple games to get into it, maybe maximum six, eight games to get into the playoffs.

Speaker 7 They're not going to play the full 20 games that were left on a lot of teams' calendars. So,

Speaker 8 you know,

Speaker 7 season ending today is a thing,

Speaker 7 even if they come back and play playoffs for purposes of MVP and Rookie of the Year and all of that.

Speaker 7 So I have been saying all season that Giannis has been my leader in the clubhouse because of the numbers he put up. I did think that that LeBron had sort of given a push maybe in the last month.

Speaker 7 And we still had a quarter of the season to go at that point.

Speaker 7 So what I kept saying is, hey, right now, if I had to vote right now, I would vote for Giannis, but I'm not willing to just concede the final quarter of the season.

Speaker 7 I want to see what happens in the final quarter of the season. I always wait until the last day to get my vote in.

Speaker 7 And I think that anybody who was saying, you know, back a few weeks ago, yeah, it's not even a discussion. The voting's done.
I mean, Giannis got hurt and wasn't going to play.

Speaker 7 You know, he had already missed two games and wasn't going to play in a few more. We don't know how many more he would have missed if the season had progressed as expected.

Speaker 7 So we could have had more shifting around.

Speaker 7 We also could have had more shifting if the Lakers had overtaken the Bucs for the number one overall seed, which is, of course, what determines home advantage in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 7 So I think that if LeBron had knocked Giannis out of that number one seed, that would have affected some people's voting. But I don't think we're going to get a chance to see any of that happen.

Speaker 7 So if I'm voting for MVP now, I'm still voting for Giannis because there hasn't been enough time for anything to push it different.

Speaker 1 What are the chances we just don't finish this season? Please say zero. Please say there's no chance.
We're definitely going to finish this season because it's already weird without March Madness.

Speaker 7 Right. It's so weird.

Speaker 1 So weird.

Speaker 7 The only good news I can give everyone for a sort of a ray of hope is we're behind, right, in the United States, well, in general, but also in catching coronavirus.

Speaker 7 Really, we're slackers in all of this. Chinese way ahead of us.
Many other places in different parts of the the world way ahead of us.

Speaker 7 So if you look at their curve, they're kind of coming out of what we're supposedly just going into, and they are starting the Chinese Basketball Association back up.

Speaker 1 True. I saw that with South Korea too, right? Yeah, true.

Speaker 7 So they're doing it without fans in a lot of places, and I think that's probably what we can expect with the NBA.

Speaker 7 In fact, the NBA has talked about not only looking at the arenas to see what their dates look like through the end of August in case we had to play the playoffs in July and August August this summer.

Speaker 7 But also other gym facilities. If you're playing without fans, you don't really have to play in a giant arena with that can seat 20,000 people.
Maybe you play at a team's practice facility.

Speaker 7 Maybe you play at a different kind of gym that would make it feel on T V kind of cooler and not empty. You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Because you don't want people watching on T V to feel like it just feels like this empty building.

Speaker 7 And so one way to do that, if you can't have fans there, is to make it a small gym and kind of figure out wait cool ways to have T V there.

Speaker 7 But that's all just kind of spitballing. So we kind of have to see what we can get.
But if you look at Asia,

Speaker 7 you know, they are restarting some of that. So it gives me hope that we will come out the other side.
There will not be bedlam in the streets. There will be basketball again.

Speaker 7 It just seems like it's going to be a long wait. And it seems really, really hard.

Speaker 1 Right. And we saw that

Speaker 1 a bunch of the jazz players got tested for the coronavirus. Kevin Durant, it just came out like, what, three hours ago?

Speaker 1 Some people are saying, some people are making the joke that coronavirus is now a super team because kevin durant has joined it but we're not well we've established it after after we said that

Speaker 1 no we wouldn't no we wouldn't we already said that it was a ring chaser like a couple couple weeks ago so we're out in front of that one but so so kevin durant has it a bunch of people in the utah jazz got tested a couple people came down with it the thunder got tested i think per capita uh the nba has been tested more than any profession in the united states so what how how is that happening how are teams getting their hands on the tests that aren't available to everybody else?

Speaker 7 I've asked the same question. The Detroit Pistons have all been tested.
I know that the Toronto Raptors were all tested. They had 40 tests now.

Speaker 7 They have access to the Canadian health care system, which, you know, maybe we've got to sneak over the border and get there because I have been told they have a lot more testing available up there.

Speaker 7 So we've got to work out some sort of border sneaking thing going on.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I've asked the same question.

Speaker 7 And of course, you know, it's not a shocker that people who are privileged in this country are are getting more access to

Speaker 7 better medical care than people who aren't.

Speaker 1 I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it if they play.

Speaker 7 Don't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm okay with it if they play. Like, if you are going to test everyone in the NBA, great.

Speaker 1 Just bring back sports. Have everyone be quarantined somewhere playing.
Yeah, they don't get to interact with their families

Speaker 1 or anybody else.

Speaker 1 Don't play.

Speaker 1 If we can get everyone... Like, I'm okay getting in the back of the line for sports in America because if we're all going to be stuck at home, it'd be nice if we could watch something.

Speaker 7 This is kind kind of a great idea because you've got half the NBA owners are billionaires, right?

Speaker 7 So Steve Bomber could totally pony up for an island and we could just fly all the NBA players out there and they could do a round-robin,

Speaker 7 no contact with anyone else, clean, right? And then, you know, the problem with the NBA is everyone touches the ball.

Speaker 7 So if anyone has it, you're likely to pass it on because you can't purlo the ball in between every possession.

Speaker 7 But yeah, I think this is, I think we're onto something.

Speaker 1 I think this can happen. If you play with James Harden, you're not going to get get the ball anyway.
So he's actually the safest player. Top 10 and assist, PFT.
Top 10 in assists.

Speaker 1 But Steve Ballmer. Top 10 and assist.
He could, yeah, he could buy an island or he could buy, instead of buying another super yacht, he could just buy one of those aircraft carriers and we could play

Speaker 1 all the games on there like we do in like preseason college basketball.

Speaker 7 Yep. See, this is why we are sitting here solving problems.

Speaker 1 We just need to.

Speaker 7 And people, you know, people haven't been able to come up with this stuff yet, and here we are.

Speaker 1 So the NBA is suspending its play. Some are saying there are front offices that might be get let off the hook when they were in the midst of really bad seasons.
Do you see that happening anywhere?

Speaker 1 Nowhere in particular.

Speaker 1 But some people might say some front offices would be like, we were building something. We were about to come back.
You got to give us more time.

Speaker 7 Can you remind me where you guys are living?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. I don't know if it's a local team or two.
Some people,

Speaker 1 people named John and Garr, might be saying

Speaker 1 there's only one guy named Garr with that haircut, and he might be saying, Hey, we just ran out of time.

Speaker 7 Well, what was interesting to me is there were reports around the All-Star game that the Bulls were going to restructure their front office, right?

Speaker 7 And all the Bulls fans I know were having their own little mini celebrations because they've been waiting for so long for that.

Speaker 7 And then all of a sudden with this break,

Speaker 7 I can't imagine that's happening right now, and maybe not even any time once they start up again, because I think a lot of owners are going to want to just sort sort of stay with who they have to shepherd people through the end of the season.

Speaker 7 And then you think about what's going on in New York where Kenny Atkinson basically they had a quote mutual parting of the ways, what, two days before all of this went down?

Speaker 7 He could have kept the job.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 7 He could have kept the job and just doing the same thing for the next three months.

Speaker 1 That's true. He didn't lose like health insurance.
Did he not have been fired under a pandemic? Is he on Cobra coverage? That sucks to lose your job right now. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, obviously, a lot of people, you know, my brother works in a restaurant. They've closed down.
A lot of people, a lot of people are facing that.

Speaker 7 Kenny Atkinson, I think, still gets paid out because of that's the way ABA contracts work.

Speaker 7 But it is a weird situation to have parted ways with your coach and then three days later, oh, wait, never mind. No season anyway.

Speaker 1 What about Charles Barkley? I feel like,

Speaker 1 didn't you say last week he felt like he was coming down with it and he got tested and then we just didn't hear anything?

Speaker 7 We didn't hear anything. I assume that if he had had it, you know, Chuck shares everything.
I assume if it turns out that he was positive, he would have told us. But who knows?

Speaker 7 You know, and the thing about the NBA guys who have tested positive, Kevin Durant, Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, they've all said they have no symptoms.

Speaker 7 So they're all just kind of sitting at home playing video games, and, you know, they just know that they're not allowed to go outside.

Speaker 1 That's also one of those where you look at it, you're like, oh, Kevin Durant's got no symptoms. I can handle it.
It's like, yeah, he's also, you know, in incredible shape and an unbelievable specimen.

Speaker 1 so well we can bench more than him that's true we can bench more than him by the way rachel how do you feel yeah i just want to know how you feel you guys would fare if you tested positive i don't remember i don't want to get old takes exposed on declaring how i think i would feel i'm gonna say not why i'm gonna say uh yeah i think i'd be exactly averagely sick i'm mentally weak when it comes to sports not being around i can't imagine me like putting on a brave face for corona i'm just glad that dogs can't get it because and well on the other flip side of it if dogs could get it, I think people would be taking way more precautions to not get themselves to become carriers because we don't want to get the Woofers sick.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 Isn't that kind of sad, though? But I think it's actually true.

Speaker 7 I think it's completely true.

Speaker 1 Yes. Absolutely.
People are dumb like that. By the way, I want to just push back.

Speaker 1 I was not celebrating when the Bulls shuffled the chairs on the deck of the Titanic by saying Gar Foreman's going to be a scout now.

Speaker 1 So that's a classic Bulls front office move to just basically be like, all right, you do that job now, but you still get to stick around and get paid and can, you know, even though you're incompetent.

Speaker 7 Oh god, I don't think you even have that now.

Speaker 1 No, you probably don't. You're right.
You're right. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 So wouldn't you rather go back to a day where he was going to be a scout?

Speaker 1 No, yeah, you're absolutely right. Like Jim Boylan will 100% be coaching the Bulls next year as well because it's like you can't fire a coach during a pandemic.
So yeah,

Speaker 1 you're right. You're right.
It's oh shit show.

Speaker 1 Here's a good question.

Speaker 7 By the way, I wouldn't say that no NBA team could fire a coach during a pandemic. We know some franchises that could probably figure out, you know,

Speaker 7 are just the kind of teams that would do it.

Speaker 1 But we'll see. True.
Yeah. I mean, the Knicks already, they would definitely fire a coach in the middle of a pandemic, but they kind of handcuffed themselves on that one.

Speaker 1 So I haven't seen anybody say anything about the start of the W NBA season. Have you heard anything about that? I haven't.

Speaker 7 I know that they've told the G-League, you know, I've seen the reporting that they've told the G-League that they're just shutting down.

Speaker 7 So I have to assume part of this is just waiting to see when they could feasibly start up. There was first it was, oh, we're going to get take a 30-day break, right?

Speaker 7 That was the first thing that came out. Then it was, oh, the CDC said no groups of 50 or more for two months.
So it'll be a 60-day break.

Speaker 7 Then the latest thing was that you had the former Surgeon General addressing the MBA owners, the Board of Governors meeting, saying, eh. Doesn't really feel like you guys could start up again.

Speaker 7 And so, again, the reporting was, I wasn't in that meeting, but the reporting was mid-July or in July. So it just keeps moving.

Speaker 7 And until they know where that goalpost stops, it's hard to say what else is going to get wiped off the board. It seems to me that we are not going to be sending NBA players to the Olympics, right?

Speaker 7 I don't know if the Olympics are even happening in August, but I was supposed to go to the Olympics, as was, you know,

Speaker 7 half of the NBA All-Stars.

Speaker 7 And right now, I just don't see a way that the NBA is sending our elite players to the Olympics, even if it happens in late June, late July, early August, because I think those guys will be in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 So I don't know. Maybe Team Jose sends some of them, the guys who don't make it.

Speaker 7 Maybe the NBA playoffs are able to start early enough that it's just the guys who are in the NBA finals who would miss out on the Olympics.

Speaker 7 But right now, those calendars keep shifting and eating other things off the board. If the NBA is taking over some of those arenas, I don't know if the WNBA is going on this summer or not.

Speaker 7 It's going to be wait and see, I think.

Speaker 1 Just a hunch, but I would imagine that even if the Olympics do happen, which I highly doubt that they're going to be able to be put on in a safe way, I think that most NBA players will decline to go overseas to play in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 This is going to be like the ultimate summer of load management for them.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I can see that for sure. And just sort of being like, yeah, I'm not playing the full season and going straight into the Olympics.

Speaker 7 And then, of course, we don't know when the next season is going to start up.

Speaker 7 So it is interesting, though, that this break happens if we do resume with the playoffs or a few regular season games to get guys back in shape and then the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Players who were injured, who we assume just wouldn't be factors, are possibly going to be factors in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Now, Kevin Durant, the reporting around him has been that he still would want to wait until the beginning of next season. Part of that kind of comes into where the Nets are.

Speaker 7 Kyrie doesn't, you know, it doesn't look like he would be ready even by the summer.

Speaker 7 So does Kevin Durant really want to rush back for a team that's a seventh seed that, you know, know Kyrie and to try to sort of play his first games in a playoff scenario? Probably not.

Speaker 7 That would be my guess. But you've got other guys.
I mean, Joel and B., Ben Simmons, who were in the middle of injuries.

Speaker 7 Giannis Ezcoupo, who who was in the middle of an injury when they called these games. You've got guys who had injuries.

Speaker 7 I don't know what Clay Thompson is going to want to do, but Clay usually wants to play. So, you know, he had ruled out coming back this season

Speaker 7 when it was a season. I think the Golden State Warriors either were eliminated the day before we shut down the NBA or they were just like one game away.

Speaker 7 So he probably won't be able to come back even if he wants to. But there's a bunch of guys who, you know, kind of were in that middle ground injury-wise.
Give them two months

Speaker 7 of rest, three months of rest. I'm curious to see what they do.

Speaker 1 Right. Clay and Steph get reunited, and they go on a 17-0 run, and the Grizzlies lose every single game that they have left.
And I think that the Golden State Warriors

Speaker 1 could make the eighth seed, though. We love the Pelicans.

Speaker 7 I was going to say, I think, I think

Speaker 1 the Mavericks lose all their games, and then the Pelicans are down, or they're just a game away, so the math wouldn't work out for them.

Speaker 7 But, you know, I am curious, what are they going to do about the Pelicans and the Grizzlies, right? And those other three or four teams that were competing for that eighth spot.

Speaker 7 Maybe they'll get a few games games to try to take a crack at the Grizzlies.

Speaker 7 Maybe the Grizzlies just get whacked into eight and they say to everyone else, sorry, we're just starting with these 16 and that's it.

Speaker 1 I just realized that Zion's going to be so fat coming out of quarantine.

Speaker 1 Like, all of us are going to gain weight. There's really, you can't go to the gym.
I mean, I'm sure he has access to a gym, but man, quarantine. You just,

Speaker 1 when you're self-isolating and social distancing, like...

Speaker 1 You have to eat. Well, sometimes the human body reacts in weird ways.
Like, who knows how your body's going to react to just you being by yourself all the time? True.

Speaker 1 Maybe it'll, maybe your body will understand what's going on, it'll go into like self-hibernation mode, and you just live off excess fat.

Speaker 7 Damn, you guys might need to get another scientist on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we will, we will. Um, Rachel, I have a one last question for you.
So, here in New York City, there are some pictures that came out of Times Square being pretty much abandoned.

Speaker 1 There was nobody there, it was eerie, it was spooky. There were no, like, weird Nintendo characters harassing people on the street.
What is the California equivalent?

Speaker 1 Because I saw the 405, and the 405 looked like it was empty. Dude, how have you been? I've never seen the 405 like that.
How creepy is that for you?

Speaker 7 It's been okay because it's still, it was raining for a few days. The first few days that they were telling people to social distance and self-quarantine, it was raining.

Speaker 7 So you had a lot of people who were, you know, stuck inside the way everyone else around the country has been. And then the weather turned nice.
I'm staring at an open blue sky.

Speaker 7 And so you have a lot of, I live near the beach.

Speaker 7 You have the beach has been kind of packed, not the way the Florida beaches are with people like sunbathing and cavorting, but more of just sort of people taking walks and kind of going social distancing.

Speaker 7 I haven't seen people more than about six or eight feet from each other, but people riding bikes, people jogging.

Speaker 7 So I think in warm places, you at least have the advantage here in LA of people being out and about and seeing other people, but everyone's kind of has the space to keep to themselves and they're just doing outdoor activities where they're not really touching anything or needing to be around anything.

Speaker 7 I was in New York last week and you do start to think about it once someone says, you know, wash your hands and be careful what you're touching. I'm sure you guys have done this.

Speaker 7 You open up a cab, you have to talk, you have to deal with the handle of the cab, then you have to close the cab from the inside of the cab. You got to pay the machine to pay for the cab.

Speaker 7 Just that simple act. How many other fingerprints, handprints, you know, pushing a button in an elevator in your apartment building with the thousands of other people.

Speaker 7 So it is something in New York that I think there's just no way to really quarantine unless you just don't leave your house. Which, you know, that's a thing.

Speaker 1 I like how the SoCal equivalent was just, it was raining, so we were social distancing anyways. Yeah.
That quarantines us. We're shut in.

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Speaker 1 If this season does get indefinitely suspended, do you think it's fair to count this against LeBron's record of just another season where he didn't deliver anything for the Lakers?

Speaker 7 I don't because they were the number one seed.

Speaker 1 They were the number one seed.

Speaker 7 What would you say he could have delivered that he didn't deliver?

Speaker 1 No, I'm actually counting this as a finals loss. Three and seven now.
Okay. He lost against the virus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll give him the finals. I'll say he got to the finals.
Haven't we all?

Speaker 7 Haven't we all, friends?

Speaker 1 We have. Yes, that's yes.
Yes. All right.
All right. Well, Rachel, thank you so much.
Next time, you know what? We'll smash the Rachel Nichols button.

Speaker 1 It'll be just a giant picture of a nickel that appears up in the sky. There you go.
Boom. Or just the word sound.

Speaker 7 Seriously, on behalf of all the listeners from your public service of still putting these to get pods together, the awesome people you're bringing in. And, you know, we appreciate it.

Speaker 7 I want you to know that.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Rachel. Stay safe.
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Speaker 3 Okay, let's get some segments. Then we will do our Love is Blind recap, episode 6 through 10.

Speaker 3 And then special guest Mark from Mark and Messica joins the show, explains how Love is Blind worked, how he fell for Messica, a lot of stuff. Cool guy, very cool guy, but

Speaker 3 a fun like peek behind the curtain. So before we do that, hurt or injured.
Hurt or injured. Who's this hurt or injured for?

Speaker 5 The entire city of Boston, Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 Chris Sales.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Chris Sales. So I actually,

Speaker 3 when I saw this news, I was like, oh yeah, baseball.

Speaker 3 I had that moment. I was like, oh, I forgot.
Because every story is about NBA players getting tested positive, March Madness not being here.

Speaker 3 The fact that the NFL free agency is still going on. And then I saw baseball news.
I was like, oh yeah, I forgot. Baseball.
That's weird.

Speaker 5 So Hank how you feeling I feel like it's a good thing because the MLB season probably never gonna happen so he's gonna be able to basically get a free year he's gonna get all the rest and recovery he needs and by the time baseball comes back he'll be ready to go so the tommy john surgery is always so weird to me because it feels like they announced four new starting pitchers are having tommy john surgery every march or april and it's one of those where it takes a full year or more to recover from but i don't recall ever hearing about a pitcher getting tommy john surgery in let's say, October or November.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you usually find out. Yeah,

Speaker 3 that usually doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 It's weird. Like baseball, I don't understand what baseball.

Speaker 3 Did you see that report where baseball said they were going to do 162 games, even though they might not start till like June, which is the most baseball thing ever where they're going to just try to force it in there?

Speaker 5 Just doubleheaders?

Speaker 3 It's crazy. It's impossible.
It is, but not to baseball. They'll just like, they're like, hey, we'll just play till January.
It's basically

Speaker 5 bring back amphetamine coffee, and then I think that that'll help with the double headers. If you make them go through December, I mean, snow baseball games would be incredible to watch.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3 The one thing that will be hopefully a positive, and we were talking about this with the fist bumps on Wednesday, the innovation that might come out of like sports, a hundred-game baseball season, NBA season starting December 25th, which is actually when it should start.

Speaker 3 Like those little things that they might say, hey, this makes.

Speaker 3 What was that, Hank? What the fuck was that?

Speaker 3 You okay? Nothing. No, I didn't nothing.

Speaker 5 That wasn't nothing. It's not nothing.

Speaker 3 Who have you been hanging out with?

Speaker 3 What part did you go to?

Speaker 3 It just, it just, no, I've been, I've been, I've been quarantined. What was that?

Speaker 3 I just, nothing. I'm good.

Speaker 3 Hold your breath.

Speaker 3 15 seconds right now in front of our face. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Is it safe for us in the same speaker?

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 One, two,

Speaker 3 three,

Speaker 3 four,

Speaker 3 five, six, seven,

Speaker 3 eight,

Speaker 3 nine,

Speaker 3 ten,

Speaker 3 eleven,

Speaker 3 twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.

Speaker 3 Okay, he's good. He's good, guys.
Wait. Oh, he's about to cough.

Speaker 5 He was about to cough right there.

Speaker 3 I'm good. I'm good.
I got a little tickle on my throat. I got a little tick on my throat.

Speaker 5 I'm also very excited to see how baseball is going to respond to this crisis because, like, if there's a bigger junk science league in the world than baseball players, I've yet to see it.

Speaker 5 I want to see how Trevor Bauer, like what sort of CBD cream he's going to be layering all over the inside of his nose. Hank, what was that?

Speaker 3 He's coughing off screen now.

Speaker 3 Dude. What? That was, I didn't cough.
I'm good.

Speaker 5 Like, they're going to be swallowing fighting capsules, like gel tabs filled with liquefied copper.

Speaker 5 I'm excited to see how they respond to it. But you're right.
There might be some innovations that come out of this, like the XFL did for the NFL.

Speaker 5 This is just the summer sports version of the XFL making their product even better.

Speaker 3 All right. Next up, we had Take Quake.
This was from Michael Irvin, who is very upset. Oh, what do you got, Hank? I had a segment alert.
This is like new segment alert.

Speaker 3 The segment's called things I was going to text you guys, but let's just say it on the show. Oh, nice segment.
I like that.

Speaker 3 We should get a MLB or NBA scheduler on because I'm very curious to see how this day-to-day news, like how they have to process all this news and organize the schedule because they probably have like 500 versions of it.

Speaker 3 Yes. I've actually been curious that because, like, I would assume the MLB, and I think about schedules way too much.
I actually would love to have them on because I want to steal their job.

Speaker 3 But I was thinking about MLB, if they start in like June 1st, do they, what do they do? They just cancel all

Speaker 3 like interleague games so that you have the same amount of games in your division? I don't know what they would do.

Speaker 3 I agree, Hank. You're holding in a cough again.
Just do it. No, I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good.
Just cough. I'm good.
Okay. It's gone.
Take Quake.

Speaker 3 Michael Irvin thinks that you shouldn't do Corona ads anymore.

Speaker 5 Well, here's his exact words. He said, since I'm not a beer drinker, maybe it's just me.
But I believe that Corona beers should not be running their commercials at this time.

Speaker 5 Sorry, I don't want to hear how Corona gets its lime while the Coronavirus is getting lives.

Speaker 5 So thank you, Michael Irvin, the guy that played for the Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 3 Yes, he also,

Speaker 3 I think Michael Irvin's tweeting that because his underlying health issue is the fact that he did way too much cocaine in the 90s. Like he probably is very nervous.

Speaker 3 His respiratory system can't be doing that well.

Speaker 5 Well, yeah, and let's just ban Coke ads too.

Speaker 3 Well, right. Yeah.
Because that

Speaker 5 sends him into flashbacks. Or let's shut down Wendy's after every single tornado.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 All right. Let's get to our Love is Blind recap.
The worst show ever. We have Mark coming up.
Oh, what do you say?

Speaker 5 I don't think it's the worst show ever.

Speaker 5 I kind of liked it.

Speaker 3 It's the worst, best show ever is what I described it as. It's the show that I love to hate so, so much.
Like I enjoyed watching and just being mad at everyone.

Speaker 3 And we have Mark coming up from Mark and Messica. He made me like him him a little bit more because he was a normal person.
But let's just recap six through ten because six through ten

Speaker 3 they go back, they go back home to Atlanta. They all live in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 It was weird seeing them like, so, all right, where do you want to start? Like, whose relationship do you want to start with?

Speaker 5 Let's just start with Mark and Messica because I think that that was the craziest one of all. And Mark, God bless him.
He tried so hard to make Jessica Jessica like him.

Speaker 5 And she tried hard to make herself like him only after she made one last attempt at Barnett and like sat down with him and was like, Hey, I just want to see like where we're at because we had a connection.

Speaker 5 He's like, Well, yeah, we don't have a connection anymore. And she was like, I know.
That's why I actually wanted to meet with you was to tell you that I also don't like you anymore.

Speaker 3 She was like, her being like, hey, I just want to, I'm just looking out for you as a friend. I want to make sure that this isn't lust and it's really love.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, it has nothing to do with me, you know, fingering myself to you every single night, thinking about you while Mark is in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 It's totally just about me, like, making sure as friends, we're longtime friends. We spent at least four days talking

Speaker 3 into a wall that the other person was on the other side of. We go way back.
I just want to make sure you're not making a mistake. And then Burnett's like, nah, I love her.
Like, we have sex a lot.

Speaker 3 And she's like, oh, okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Cool.
Like, yeah, me too.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Me and Mark are great.
We're doing fine. I just want to make sure that you also felt that exact same.
You know what that's like?

Speaker 5 Whatever Prince it was saying that he only flew to Jeffrey Epstein's island to tell Jeffrey Epstein that they weren't going to be friends anymore.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's what Messica did by meeting with Barnett that last time. And man, she is, she is a mess at the group party that they had.

Speaker 5 She was just getting hammered and talking to talking to Barnett the entire time. And meanwhile, Amber was just like staring at her like, I'm going to kick the shit out of this.
Oh,

Speaker 5 and she would have and you know what if Messica had known at that moment that Amber had financial problems she would have been all that would have been her ace in the hole oh yeah oh yeah

Speaker 5 very subtly been like so yeah I just don't know what I'm gonna do because I've been gone for three weeks and nobody's driven my bins around and i heard that sometimes that's bad for cars to just leave them in your driveway for a while the that party amber would kick the shit out of jessica that is the the biggest mismatch.

Speaker 3 And I'm not even talking about like height, build, anything like that. I'm just talking about strictly personality.

Speaker 3 Amber would have no problem pulling every last hair out of Jessica's scalp if she needed to. So that was great.
And then, of course, Jessica becomes Messica on that night.

Speaker 3 and then slyly tells uh as she's cuddling her dog while mark is like hey what's wrong she's like nothing's wrong like i don't tell you anything I don't, like, I don't tell you that I'm way more attracted to Barnett than you.

Speaker 3 And like, that,

Speaker 3 Mark, I mean, we like Mark. He's coming up, but man, that was tough to watch.
And you're right. The Barnett,

Speaker 3 Amanda, like when Barnett found out that she had all those issues, which he had like a credit card balance for makeup, credit to Barnett.

Speaker 3 Like, he, the sex must be awesome because he was just like, okay,

Speaker 3 like, yeah,

Speaker 3 we'll still do this. Okay, fine.
Cool. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I, I started to like Barnett more, but I hated his brother. His brother was a big stick in the mud.
His brother, who's, I don't know why, I just got a big hair plug vibe out of him. I don't know.

Speaker 5 His hair didn't match his face for some reason, but he was like looking at Barnett, who is a lot cooler than him. a lot better looking than him, a lot nicer than him.

Speaker 5 And he was like, hey, man, you shouldn't do this. Like, what's going on? This is not what our family raised you to do.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Amanda-Barnett family relationship, that will be a knockdown, drag out fight at a Christmas in the future.

Speaker 3 There will be, or Amber, sorry, Amber, there will be shit thrown at a Christmas and Christmas will be ruined for a very long time because

Speaker 3 that is never going to like work out. Like, I think Amber and Barnett might work out.
Amber and Barnett's family is not going to work out.

Speaker 5 Right. Amber's mom is going to show up to a debutante ball being hosted by the Barnett family, and she's going to be wearing like a Tweety Bird or the Tasmanian devil dress.

Speaker 5 And they're going to be like, get, get a divorce immediately. Leave this family.
But

Speaker 5 I thought that Barnett ended up with a good head on his shoulders at the end of the whole deal.

Speaker 5 You want to talk about Giannini or Giovannini, whatever her name is, and Damien?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Damien, dude.

Speaker 3 Power move power move to

Speaker 3 leave her at the altar but did you watch the recap I did yeah okay good so I actually was happy to hear that they had they were still together because as weird as this sounds I actually think they're the most they're the most like regular couple like they would fight and then they would sit there and talk about it and actually talk about it and yeah they would fight a lot but they actually communicated very well to a shocking level where I was like you you know what like this is what a relationship kind of looks like it's not like lauren and cameron who are just smooching in a tree house it's not like amber and barnett who are their way over like credit card debt it's it's giannini and damien damian powers being like hey I don't like that you're on your phone.

Speaker 3 And hey, you're an Instagram thought. Like maybe pay attention to me.
Like real problem, real 20th, 21st century problems.

Speaker 5 They would eventually get to discussing things, but also also Damien was just a mean guy. Like he had shit stored up in the back of his head all the time, just waiting.

Speaker 5 Like he wouldn't say anything about it, but the second she would criticize him, he would come over the top and be like, yeah, well, how come you're always texting people and like, I've told you not to do that and you still don't care what I think.

Speaker 5 But the way that that Giannini is, what's her name? I need to figure out what her name is.

Speaker 3 Just Gigi. Gigi.

Speaker 5 The way that Gigi falls in love is she likes fighting. She loves fighting.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, you're not in a relationship with her unless you're fighting four or five times a day, because that means that you're also making up four or five times a day.

Speaker 5 But he pulled the ultimate move that will make her love him for the rest of her life, which is started the ultimate fight by leaving her at the altar on their wedding day.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 That she, she secretly loves the fact that she's with a guy that did that.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's spicy. I mean, she said it in the first episode, which kind of did herself in when she's like, I love to self-sabotage.

Speaker 3 So basically every move that she makes, Damien can be like, oh, that's self-sabotage. Like, no, actually, I just don't want you to Dutch oven me.

Speaker 3 And like, so there's, there's those things will happen for the rest of their relationship, but I think they're actually going to make it.

Speaker 5 I also want it on the record that I don't like Damien's hair. It looks like a poorly cut Major League Baseball outfield with that one patch that goes the opposite direction of every single other hair.

Speaker 3 Kenny and Kelly. So I hate both of them.
Actually, I don't hate Kenny. I feel bad for Kenny.
A couple things. One,

Speaker 3 they just smooched all the time. And Kelly said,

Speaker 3 when Kenny was like, hey,

Speaker 3 it was like, I think episode eight. Kenny was like, hey, you know, like, all this kissing is cool, but we should try to fuck.
And she was like, yeah.

Speaker 3 There's just a problem. Like, I can't orgasm.
And I, like, not to say that you can't make me, but you can't make me. And so that was like, this is not going to work.

Speaker 3 And they're, they got like their families liked each other too much.

Speaker 3 And it was just all too perfect and then kelly leaves kenny at the altar and fucking kenny dude gives a speech to everyone that was the most ridiculous moment when he was like hey everyone thanks for coming out like you don't have to give a speech just leave just go away and it

Speaker 5 dawned on him Do you think that there was an option for them to just tell the other person that they're not going to go through with it before they got to the altar?

Speaker 3 like just beforehand maybe before you walk down that aisle just be like hey it's not going to happen no i think that that was i mean i'm happy for kenny because kelly there was something with her like she i mean she even said at the end she's like yeah you know like he wasn't he wasn't like the normal type of guy i go for it's like okay you could have told him that a long time ago you're right like tell him in mexico i've also heard enough people referring to fucking as being physical from the show for that that i can deal with with never hearing it again for the rest of my life.

Speaker 5 Whether it was Mark or whether it was Kelly. It's like, you know, we've got a great connection, but we haven't become physical yet.

Speaker 3 And then Mark, when he was like, you know, that's great.

Speaker 5 We finally added the piece of physicality to our relationship. Like he's talking about a linebacker shedding the block from a pulling guard or something like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Everything. We're the total packages in this relationship.
We just sometimes we're not as physical as we'd like to be.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we kiss, but we're not playing hat-on-hat football. And we really want to start running the ball downhill and it's just not happening yet.

Speaker 3 All right, last up before we get to Mark,

Speaker 3 Cameron and Lauren, who I love. I love them.
But

Speaker 3 Cameron, I told you, like the first five episodes, he gave the vibe where he was just a little too close all the time.

Speaker 3 His rap.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 His rap.

Speaker 5 His rap.

Speaker 3 His rap.

Speaker 5 There was something about him that had screamed the entire time. I was in a college a cappella group.
I did not think that it was like a rap a cappella group.

Speaker 5 And his rap was probably the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen on TV, but I guess Lauren's mom really liked it.

Speaker 3 And I did kind of like, Lauren's dad was like hard on Cameron, but then Cameron, Lauren, Lauren's dad dropped actually like a legitimate question that I thought was, was, was a fair question.

Speaker 3 Like, have you ever been in a room where you're the only white guy? Where it's just African Americans everywhere. He's like, yeah, I actually dated

Speaker 3 an african-american for five years and immediately lawrence dad was like okay i kind of like you now and it was like yeah here we go let's do this he should have been like yeah i was a cornerback my uh sophomore year

Speaker 3 i'm actually jason sehorn's son yeah

Speaker 5 yeah no it was a fair question and it was like he was very uncomfortable with the way that he was asking questions but at least you knew where you stood with his dad at every single moment and her dad and they are the like i do not think barnett burnett and Amanda,

Speaker 3 they'll probably make it, but I also think like, just judging by the recap show, Barnett was wearing that weird fucking blazer. And like, he's,

Speaker 3 I think, I think Amanda's going to be like, they're going to have kids, and Amanda's going to be like, no, keep buying a Porsche. And like, this, like, her spending habits are going to sink that ship.

Speaker 3 I do think Lauren and Cameron are going to make it.

Speaker 5 You think so?

Speaker 3 Yes. I think they're going to make it.

Speaker 5 I hope so.

Speaker 5 But although Lauren was very much scared when they were looking at houses together, and she was like, hey, you think maybe I could still have my apartment, even though you've got this really nice purpose?

Speaker 5 And here's the thing. If you're, who's Lauren's Cameron? It's Cameron and Lauren.
Yeah. If you're Cameron, you've got to get her pregnant as soon as possible, which is his goal.

Speaker 5 That was his goal throughout this entire thing is just to get a woman pregnant and to have babies, even though he's like young, single.

Speaker 5 So they need to start having kids ASAP because I think that if lauren gets too much time to think about whether she's going to be happy for the rest of her life she's going to end up like one foot out the door yes yes absolutely all right so that's our recap again i just have to say it this should have been march madness and we're talking about love is blind whatever oh one more thing cameron's friends you know how they showed like everybody meeting and talking with their friends I loved how Cameron's two buddies were taken out of central casting as like the stereotypical nerds that you dork central

Speaker 5 huge dorks they were nice and they were sweet friends, I guess. But

Speaker 5 I was just laughing my ass off every time they showed him.

Speaker 3 Yes. Hank, any last words before we have Mark on?

Speaker 3 The rap, I watched the rap, and that just reminded me of the succession scene when he was rapping

Speaker 3 about his dad. That was the only thing that came to mind.
Oh, that was the second cringiest video. But that was a real video.
So cringy.

Speaker 5 I'd like to hear some of Hank's takes about Messica or about, I don't know, maybe about

Speaker 5 GG.

Speaker 3 My takes stayed the same. I like skimmed through.

Speaker 3 Every time I really tried to pay attention to the show, I got physically ill. So

Speaker 3 I didn't want to give the dog a cough. Deep cough.
Deep cough.

Speaker 3 Deep cough.

Speaker 3 Dry cough. Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, I'm good.

Speaker 5 Sore throat.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I'm just going to keep self-quarantine.

Speaker 5 Chills.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 5 Body aches.

Speaker 3 You caught corona through Love is Blind. Probably.
I mean, one of us definitely has it.

Speaker 5 Stay away from walls at all times.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 yeah, one of us probably does have it. All right, let's go to Mark.
By the way, a little teaser for Monday. We have, I think we should run Mr.
Portnoy and then maybe the mystery guest.

Speaker 3 Old school, just go OS.

Speaker 5 Mystery guest?

Speaker 3 You know who we're talking about. You know who I'm talking about.
It's confirmed today.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Do you know who I'm talking about? You know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 No, I know exactly who you're talking about. We're going to

Speaker 5 break that glass, pull that lever right now.

Speaker 3 Hank, do you, do you not know who we're talking about? No, who

Speaker 5 put it this way?

Speaker 3 Uh,

Speaker 3 love,

Speaker 3 I would say, get ready,

Speaker 3 go get ready for it. Here's Mark, here's the rest of the Love is Blind.

Speaker 3 Really funny interview, and also fascinating to find out, like, actually, how long these people were interacting and falling in love and not having sex.

Speaker 3 If you're Kenny, Kenny and Kelly's case, love you guys,

Speaker 5 Hank, don't forget to put in the love you guys.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Mark from Love is Blind, from Mark and Messica duo Wedding, from Love is Blind again on Netflix.
Mark, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 We have a million questions. I guess the first one would be, how are you after watching it and seeing everyone

Speaker 1 maybe like trash you, including us?

Speaker 8 No, man, you know, life's good. I feel like one of the, it's, it's one of those things where you just kind of go through it, and no matter what, it.

Speaker 8 Luckily, I have friends that, like, talk shit to me all day, every day. So I've gotten used to it, like, having that kind of tough skin, but I'm good, man.
Life's good.

Speaker 8 You know, I'm not, I'm not mad about anything, you know, especially hearing y'all's recap on episodes one through five. Like, I was actually laughing the whole time.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. Yeah.

Speaker 8 No, but it is what it is, man.

Speaker 8 You know, there's only so much that they can show on Netflix that, like, you know, that portrays it the way they want right so they obviously selectively edit some things for sure but was there any part of it that you watching back you you were like cringing at or or something that you saw going on uh from the lens of like a normal viewer that you're like oh that's why that was happening at the time or like any relevations you had watching it back so funny thing um i didn't really know me even me and barnett were actually cool like the whole time so we were actually roommates when we were on the show and like when we were when i was watching it back all that stuff like the barnett stuff was actually news to me like like I was like oh snap so all that like when you know people are like why didn't you see this or that I'm like well I didn't really know you don't really know what when you don't know what's going on you can't really like fix the problem right right but you know and so that's one of those things where but I mean we we're still boys to this day and I think that's like one of the when watching it back one things that kind of made me be like ah damn like I wish I'd have known that you know what I mean because people are saying like oh you weren't looking at red flags and all this stuff like that but I'm you you know, that was one of the things I picked up on like watching it with everybody else because we didn't get a sneak preview.

Speaker 8 We had to watch it all with the whole world.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. That's got to be anxiety inducing where you're like, what's going to happen? It took a year and a half.
Wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was a year and a half.
Jesus. Wow.
That's crazy. Crazy.

Speaker 8 But like our emotional support was like each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Because nobody honestly, if I, if I even had like remotely chance to tell anybody what I went through, like, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm about to propose to somebody in 10 days.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I went through this whole wedding day they'd be like dude what the hell kind of show is that yes absolutely it was it was a fascinating show to watch I was saying it on Monday I I hate it but I couldn't stop watching it what my my number one question I had watching it though was how much time did you actually spend talking to Jessica or other people talking to the people they got engaged with how many days was it and how many hours funny thing so 15 guys 15 girls the whole you know i know you guys get the format and stuff but like the first day was speed dating So we had like seven minutes to date all 15 girls, like each one individually.

Speaker 8 And then you ranked them at the end of that first day between one to 15. After that day, you, you got more time the next day.
So, and we also had like night dating too.

Speaker 8 So the next day, you had like 30 minutes. Well, then after that, if you made it past the third day, you started to have like an hour and a half, like an hour, hour and a half with someone.

Speaker 8 And they had like specific days. So one day you talk about marriage.
One day you talk about finances. One day you talk about, you know,

Speaker 8 like sex and stuff like that. So like, what do you expect in a marriage and stuff romantically?

Speaker 8 And so you got to think like an hour and a half of different conversations like for that day in the morning time.

Speaker 8 And then another hour and a half or so at night, you're like, and that's all you're talking to that person.

Speaker 8 So you got to think within 10 days, you're spending that many kind of, like, kind of hours, like communicating what you want in a relationship.

Speaker 8 It kind of, it, because one day in there felt like a month. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So when you're sitting there just like waiting for them, you're talking to them, getting to know them, you're, you're asking these questions because they gave us questions to ask.

Speaker 8 Now, they said you could use them or you don't have to, but these are based on like psychologists and like relationship experts.

Speaker 8 That if you use this, then like you're probably going to get an emotional connection out of it. And I think all of us use these questions, which is why it happens so fast.

Speaker 1 I did notice that, especially when everybody went back and met their families and introduced their significant others to like their mom and dad and everything, they kept referring to it as an experiment.

Speaker 1 So it was like it wasn't a reality show when you were telling your parents about it.

Speaker 1 Was that something that you kind of went back to your mom and you're like, it'd be way better if I just acted like this was some sort of psychology thing rather than say it's a reality show?

Speaker 8 Well, funny thing,

Speaker 8 my parents have always been super just kind of like, all right, if that's what you want to do, like go for it, you know?

Speaker 8 But so when I told my mom I was going on this show, she was kind of like, wait, what? Like, you're about to get who? Married with who? And so.

Speaker 8 She was a little skeptical at first, as any rational parent would probably be.

Speaker 8 I was like, hey, like, I'm not a proposal. I might propose to somebody, but we'll see what happens.
But

Speaker 8 she never was like, you know, had any negative things towards it. So my family, like, I told her about it, like the experience or experiment, whatever.

Speaker 8 And she was just kind of like, well, I mean, if this is what you want to do, like, go for it. You know? So I've never really had to classify it as an experiment to her.
Like, to us, like.

Speaker 8 my family on my side, like I'll speak for us, it's like, it was all real, like the way it went down.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 All right. Now, I don't want this to sound mean at all, but I have some basic questions.
Some, hey, wasn't that a red flag?

Speaker 1 Number one, it seemed like Jessica was doing a lot of drinking whenever she was around you. Like, I need to get drunk to hang out.
Was that ever a red flag?

Speaker 8 You know, I think with the whole experience, like, well, you know, it's funny, like.

Speaker 8 We were all kind of drinking a good bit, but when you're in it,

Speaker 1 you're not really noticing it like as much because like we were never we drank like a bottle of wine together but i never we never like i never counted how much you drank right like you looking back at it i'm like well damn like not shaming actually i feel like yeah no no no no no not at all like hey man i'll put back a bottle of wine by myself man all right another one okay so the other one the it seemed at one point that if jessica had found someone who was just like bumped into her at the grocery store and was like oh you're dating a 24-year-old She'd be like, yeah, that's actually a bad idea.

Speaker 1 She was looking for an answer from every single person she could find. That scene when she talks to her friends and like,

Speaker 1 there's a catch. He's 24.
And they were like, oh, that's awesome. And she's like, wait, what? You mean I should do this?

Speaker 1 Did you ever, when she kept on bringing up age, were you ever like, hey, this seems like a sticking point?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I definitely felt like, I mean, talk about an uphill battle. Like, I felt like that was one of the main things that I had to combat.

Speaker 8 Like, I, when, which I deep down, I really feel like it, that wasn't even the main issue. You know what I mean? I, it just, like, she knew my age when we, when I proposed to her.

Speaker 8 So, like, we talked about it. And she said it on, like, the pods and stuff.
Like, oh, yeah, like, you know, you're, I'm 34, you're 24. And I was like, yeah, but, like, I get it.

Speaker 8 Like, it is what it is. Like, let's figure this out.
And she said yes. And, you know, then we met.
And, you know, the rest is history.

Speaker 8 But, you know, like, I, it was one of those things of, I think it was deeper than that. I think we were just in two different stages in life where like I'm 24 and she's 34.

Speaker 8 She's got a whole like bunch of stuff figured out and I'm still like figuring it out as like you guys said, like typical 24 year old dude. You know what I mean? Like trying to figure it out.

Speaker 8 And so I think we were just in two different spots in life and like maybe like in the pods we can make it work. But in real life, it's like once that hits, it hits hard.

Speaker 1 Dude, you're like getting filmed as a 24 year old.

Speaker 1 I think we all can relate to like how brutal that would be to watch because I'm watching you and I remember being 24 and thinking I had everything figured out.

Speaker 1 And really, I was a fucking idiot and a half-brain. And, like, that's not like we all went through that phase where, like, we got this figured out, and nowhere near having it figured out.

Speaker 1 So, having to watch that back, God bless you, man.

Speaker 8 Dude, dude, I'll tell you this, man. Like, I, I'll, I'll, you know, I've said it before, hopeless, romantic, whatever, but I felt hard for that girl, like, in the pod, right?

Speaker 8 And as, like, you said, like, 24 years old, like, I was, I was so, I'd never been that vulnerable vulnerable that fast with someone because of maybe the experience or whatever happened.

Speaker 8 But like, I got, I felt really hard.

Speaker 8 And so when people are like, you didn't see this red flag, this red flag, but I'm like, you don't really see that when you're in it trying to make it work in a way of like, dude, like, I, I want to go back to how we were in the pods or how we were here.

Speaker 8 Like you're trying to find the positives. When I look at it now, I look back, I'm like, I wouldn't do that now, but I'm glad I went through it because I feel like at 26, so I'm 26 now.

Speaker 8 I look back at it and I'm like, dude, I would never deal, you know, but you need to go through those things to be able to realize that.

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah, yeah. It was, I have to imagine that watching it all back was kind of like, it was instructive, it was informative.

Speaker 1 You got to see yourself how, how, like, other people might have been observing, observing the relationship.

Speaker 1 But, like, when you look back on it now, was it easier to get over her after having seen that, like, kind of the way that

Speaker 1 everybody else saw the relationship? Like, watching her act the way that she did on the show, did it make it easier easier on you to kind of be moving on with your life at that point?

Speaker 8 I think, you know, closure is a big thing. And sometimes we don't, a lot of times we don't get the closure from the people.
Like, they don't tell us, like, hey, this is why it ended.

Speaker 8 And so I had a lot of that the year and a half that I didn't, like, we didn't talk until the reunion.

Speaker 8 So it was a year and some change, a year and a half and some change that I didn't see her in person or even communicate with her.

Speaker 8 So when I saw her, that was like really like my closure to kind of be like, hey, like we're good.

Speaker 8 Like I really have like, I know it's like a whole lot of craziness that everybody saw, but like I really have like zero hate towards her because I'm just like, I've grown up a lot faster.

Speaker 8 I know what I want in relationship and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 And it sounds like a typical like instructed answer, but like seriously, I'm like, I appreciate all that mess that we went through because now I know like. what I want moving forward.

Speaker 8 You know what I mean? Like it takes sometimes I'm really hard-headed. So it takes like those kind of experiences to be like, oh shit, like I got to figure my shit out.
Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 So, yeah, I'm honestly like, you know, after that, after we saw each other reunion, I'm like, there's no harsh feelings. I'm like, we're cool.
Like, she moved to L.A. I'm in Atlanta.

Speaker 8 And I'm like, yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 What I always, I always throw out that I would love to get like, you know, when you see a viral video, I'd pay money for the next 10 seconds when they turn off the camera.

Speaker 1 I would have paid money to see the next 48 hours after you, you know, are at the altar. What did that look like for you?

Speaker 1 Like, are you sitting on your couch, you know, next to your brown on brown sheets, which, by the way, that was a stud move.

Speaker 1 Stud move. That right there, by the way, you, when you got brown on brown, the sheets in the, in the, in the pillowcases, like, you should have been like, yeah, I am still 24.

Speaker 1 Like, I remember having that exact same bedding.

Speaker 8 I'm going to clear it up. I'm going to clear the air right here, man.
I got set up hard by my best friend, man. Like, I live with him at that time.

Speaker 8 And because I was gone for three weeks, he had like a family member stay over the house or something like that. So they changed the sheets.
And I didn't have a chance to go into the house.

Speaker 8 Like, I came straight from, you know, Cancun to go into the house, like to film. And so when I walk up there, and it's not my sheets, my sheets are like in the corner and my blanket and my comforter.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker 8 Like, my heart goes to my stomach. I'm like, I just got, this is going to be so bad.
And when I saw it again, the big thing that people asked me, do you regret anything?

Speaker 8 I'm like, I regret not going up the stairs before anybody else because those are not my sheets.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
So back to what I was saying. So 24 hours later, 48 hours later, are you sitting on your couch, like

Speaker 1 drinking a Bud Light being like, damn,

Speaker 1 that kind of sucked.

Speaker 8 Hey, man.

Speaker 8 I mean, I think so the next, I guess after that, like I hung out with my family that night. And like, we just, honestly, we were just like.

Speaker 8 That kind of helped me get over it. Like, we were just shooting the shit and like having a good time.
Like at my parents' house, like just hanging out.

Speaker 8 Like I was like, not really having a good time as much as they could. They tried to cheer me up because like that shit sucks.

Speaker 8 You're like, you're standing up there in front of, like, friends and family, and then someone tells you, no, you're like, well, shit, like, that kind of sucks.

Speaker 8 And so you get there, you get home, and like, everyone's just trying to, you know, hang out with you, pop some beers open, and just, like, be there for you. So, really, like,

Speaker 8 you know, but any, if you can imagine like a Latin party, like, everybody hanging out, just trying to tear me up, that's kind of like what went down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was your mom's reaction to it? Was your mom, like, secretly, like, thank God, you just, you dodged a major bullet here?

Speaker 8 You know, she tells me that now, I, you know, she never told me when it happened, but she, you know, she's very I don't know if you saw when uh, you know, know, when the wedding, when she's like walking down the aisle, my mom just like rolls her eyes or whatever.

Speaker 8 Like, my mom's like a true gangster. She'll give you the shirt off her back, but if she doesn't like you, like, she's like a true gangster.

Speaker 8 So it's just, I, after the fact, she's like, uh, I don't know, Miko. I don't know if that was, that was the one.
I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 I loved, I loved your dad, too. Your dad just being the silent, like, I'm just sitting here judging.
Like, you could tell he did too. He's like, this is stupid, but you're 24.
Why not? Go have fun.

Speaker 8 Dude, it's like, screw it, man. I really, like, which might be a good thing or a bad thing.
I don't know.

Speaker 8 Like, even when they found me, like, I didn't, I've never, like, the extent of reality television that I've watched was like Jersey Shore back in the day when they first came out.

Speaker 8 Like, I never watched reality TV and I never thought I would be on a reality TV show. Like, I played sports my whole life.
I was like, eh, reality TV is not for me.

Speaker 8 That was more my sister, like, wanted to see that route. But, like, for me, like, when they reached out to me and stood in my DMs, like, I was like, uh, I guess.
I was like, why not?

Speaker 8 And I kept saying, why not through the whole experience? And now, like, we're here. And it's it's like, damn, like, maybe some things I shouldn't say why not.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, you,

Speaker 1 yeah, you seem to be

Speaker 1 like handling it all very well, which is it's very cool to see because I think a lot of people would be embarrassed or like, be like, fuck, that really sucked.

Speaker 1 You seem to have a really good outlook on it. I have one last question, though.
And I want to give you the chance here to dispel some rumors.

Speaker 1 Messica,

Speaker 1 aka Jessica, aka the slob kebab,

Speaker 1 said that you weren't as big,

Speaker 1 like physically, not talking about dick size, I'm talking about physically like fit as she usually goes for. Now, you're a personal trainer.

Speaker 1 Would you like to tell us what you squat and bench so that we can kind of squash that right now and be like, yo, Mark fucking puts up weight, dude?

Speaker 8 I mean, the month I had a bench was 295.

Speaker 1 That's good. The month I've benched was 355.
That's good.

Speaker 8 I've never weighed more than 180. I weigh 181 right now, so I've never weighed more than that.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Back in the days.
Those are good numbers.

Speaker 8 Now, I played college football, but like my thing was like, I'm no, I wasn't like, you know, a superstar, man. So like, I once had a couple of concussions hit me there here and there.

Speaker 8 I was like, all right, like, I'm like, once you play college, but I played B3, but that's where I was really, like, hitting the weights hard.

Speaker 8 And then after that, that's kind of like what led me to be a personal trainer. Cause you kind of like get stuck in that zone of like training.

Speaker 8 And I'm like, all right, I need to like fill my time, but also make money off of it. So I became a personal trainer, and dude, I love it.
But yeah, bench press, man, that was the most I ever did.

Speaker 8 Was 290. Probably now I could probably hit 255, 265.
But yeah, I can put some weight up.

Speaker 1 Man, I feel like you should have been

Speaker 1 labeled on the show as college football player as opposed to like fitness professional. Because anytime there's the college football player on there, it's like, okay,

Speaker 1 that guy's pretty cool. Like, that's an alpha.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, so, like,

Speaker 8 I can kind of see that.

Speaker 8 Especially like watching a couple other shows, whatever, now, since then, like,

Speaker 8 I told her, like, I played college football. And, like, I had, funny thing, I had actually went and did the AAF like trial before it, like, sunk, like, like, went down.
Really?

Speaker 8 I went and tried that out, but I was training for it. So, I was, like, in the best shape of my life, like, going for it.

Speaker 8 But it just, you know, obviously, like, I was like, all right, football's not in the cards anymore.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's always tough to get that goal. I also went through a similar experience, like, six months ago with the Exeter.

Speaker 1 If you threw it out there,

Speaker 1 Barnett, could you take Barnett in a fight?

Speaker 8 So I won my first boxing match, like, my amateur fight in April. I won.

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 I box it now. Wait, so you boxing training?

Speaker 1 We have an idea. Rough and rowdy.
Do you want to fight Barnett and rough and round and rowdy?

Speaker 8 Dude, what?

Speaker 1 We have, we'll pay. It's sanctioned.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, he's my boy. I mean, if he's down, I don't mind fighting.

Speaker 8 I'm a good sport. I'm really competitive.
So if he's down, I'm down.

Speaker 1 You would fucking not to, I mean, speak out of turn here, but you would wipe the floor with Damian Powers, with Kenny.

Speaker 1 And Cameron actually, Cameron's got that weird like he's a scientist he's a nerd but he learned how to lift and you got to watch out for those guys those guys are always I think he's got some rage like he never played a ball sport but he could lift so much and you're like I don't know about him it's like that pent-up rage that's just holding back and like you you get hit one time you're like oh like in the chest you're like oh shit yes like damn that that dude hits hard no camera cameron's like one of my best friends now man and like I could see I see I could see that side where it's like you know he's a really cool calm dude and like but I could see like where like one punch, you're like, ooh, all right.

Speaker 8 Like, he's one of those types of I gotta watch out for.

Speaker 1 I think it's like the opposite with Barnett. I feel like Barnett, you know, he'll like stand up to you, but the second he gets hit in the face, he

Speaker 1 calls his dad and asks him to sue somebody.

Speaker 8 I mean, I don't know. You know, he's my boy, but dude, I'd be down.
I mean, I don't mind fighting. I like, I like boxing now, man.

Speaker 8 Once you get punched in the face when you're sparring your coach, you're just kind of like, oh, shit, it's not that bad.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, yeah, we'll, all right, well, we'll keep in touch.
I think there might be something in the future.

Speaker 8 We'll use this clip to kind of go at Barnett and see what he has to say yeah for sure man for sure I'd be down no I'm well while on that side man just let me know whatever all right we would have to have

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 8 if you want to ever want to talk bears man let me know yes

Speaker 1 I'm wearing my bears jersey right now so who do you want them to get as quarterback yeah let's talk about that real quick dude so

Speaker 8 like

Speaker 8 it

Speaker 8 Like, I thought maybe Teddy Bridgewater would have been a good fit, maybe, but I don't know. Cam Newton, if he's healthy, might be all right.

Speaker 8 Now, I'm not now again that that's tentative of saying if he's healthy, but I think he would be like an upgrade of like a

Speaker 8 richer, like Mitchell Trubisky. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, like where, like, I feel like it's more dynamic.

Speaker 1 Are you, you know, are you totally done with Mitch?

Speaker 8 Man, I think going to enough, like, yeah, you know,

Speaker 8 nothing against the guy. I'm sure he's a great dude and everything, man, but it's just it's just not it, man.

Speaker 8 You know, I think, you know, with the defense that we have in like Khalil, Hakeem, like all those boys, Roquan, and we just signed Robert Quinn.

Speaker 8 Like, bro, our defense needs, our defense literally is, like, winning games for us. And so I think it's the leadership style that we need.

Speaker 8 And I feel like Cam will kind of give us like maybe a little bit of swagger back. Okay.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm in on anything because I agree with you that the window is there and they got to act fast when it comes to quarterback. I just, I don't know.
Cam, his injury history makes me so nervous.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And that's what makes me kind of, it's like, who else is out there, though?

Speaker 1 Everyone's pretty much signed you know right right we're gonna it's gonna be like case keenum or andy dalton i'll take can't go wrong and

Speaker 1 case keenum he's the red rifle dude the red rifle yeah yeah they're all getting snatched up not a lot of seats left all right well mark thank you so much we appreciate it you uh you're awesome to talk to man like seriously i if i were in your shoes i probably would delete all my social media so it's cool that you have a good like sense of uh you know the bigger picture here and we'd love to have you do rough and rowdy I'll talk to you about that, bro.

Speaker 8 Seriously, reach out to me. And thank you guys for having me on, man.
Big fan. Like, dude, you guys are awesome.

Speaker 8 Seriously, I was cracking up when you guys were ripping, even whether you're ripping me apart or not on episode one through five recap. I'm like, bro, that shit was awesome.

Speaker 1 Love it. I love it.
All right. Well, thank you, Mark.
Appreciate it, man. Talk to you soon.

Speaker 8 All right, bro. Y'all have a blessed one.
Take care, man. Thanks.

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