Olympic Handballer Xavier O'Callaghan, Astros Terrible Apology, And Jameis Squinston

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Happy Valentines Day to everyone the Houston Astros are not only cheaters, but unapologetic ones as well. We talk about Jim Crane's horrendous press conference and how stupid the Astros are for all of this (2:27 - 13:53). The real news of the day is Jameis Squinston got Lasik and now may be the best Quarterback ever (13:53 - 22:13). XFL preview (22:13 - 29:39). Olympic Handball player Xavier O'Callaghan joins the show to explain the sport to us, answer our dumb questions, and try to settle the Jay Cutler debate (29:39 - 65:33). Segments include Fyre Fest of the week, do we care about the dunk contest, how can we get Mike Bloomberg's money and Guys on Chicks


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Speaker 1 we get deep into the handball community. Deep, deep.

Speaker 1 What was his name again?

Speaker 1 Oka. Oka.
Oka. Oka.

Speaker 3 His name is actually like the Saladad.

Speaker 1 Xavier O'Callahan.

Speaker 3 It's like the Saladad O'Brien of males. It's so

Speaker 3 ethnically diverse just in his name. Xavier O'Callaghan.

Speaker 1 O'Callahan. Yeah.
So we have him on. We talk handball.
It was actually supposed to be for Barstow Gold, but it was so good. We thought we would give it to the people.

Speaker 1 And it was, I mean, I could listen to him talk forever. So something a little different.
We have Firefest, the Astros stepped in it again.

Speaker 1 Special Valentine's Day, guys on chicks, and Jameis Squinston. Before we do all of that, part of my take is.

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Today is Friday, February 14th. Happy Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 Happy Valentine's Day. I love you guys.

Speaker 1 I love you. I love all of you.
This is such a great day.

Speaker 1 Such an awesome, not made-up holiday that puts pressure on everyone.

Speaker 3 Yeah, can I give a little like honest advice about Valentine's Day? Yeah. So this is something I discovered a while ago.

Speaker 3 If you do Valentine's Day, the biggest pressure that comes up in Valentine's Day is one, figuring out like what gift to get.

Speaker 3 Don't come too fast.

Speaker 3 Listen, when you've got Roman swipes,

Speaker 3 you basically never nut.

Speaker 3 If you just won a Super Bowl,

Speaker 3 you'll be fucking for hours.

Speaker 3 It's like figuring out the whole reservation thing. And I've hacked that.
The hack to that is you just go out for like brunch if it's on a weekend. You start your day early.

Speaker 3 Who doesn't enjoy a good brunch? All the restaurants are relatively empty. You get day drunk, things happen, you go places, and then maybe you go out for dinner somewhere, a little like more casual.

Speaker 8 Yeah, in this situation, though, PFT, all the girls are going to be expected to have a good Friday night. You're going to tell them to wait till Saturday.

Speaker 1 That's the

Speaker 1 title.

Speaker 3 So today's tough because it's on a Friday.

Speaker 3 This is actually the perfect spot.

Speaker 1 Brunch on a Friday.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just skip work.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I've told this story, but I hacked Valentine's Day back in college where before like open table and all those places existed, I just got a bunch of reservations.

Speaker 1 Me and my friend got a bunch and then we saved them and put on Craigslist and made money.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's pretty sick. Yeah, it was pretty sick.

Speaker 5 It was a slick move ahead of my time.

Speaker 1 I basically invented Open Table. No, you were the situation.
And had none of the wherewithal, passion, motivation,

Speaker 1 everything that needs to be made for a startup.

Speaker 3 You were the seat geek of food.

Speaker 1 You were the eat geek. Yeah, right.
So I, I mean, it was pretty good. We actually made like a couple hundred bucks.
Yeah. It was just like all the nice reservations, all the nice places in Madison.

Speaker 1 We booked them up and then put them on Craigslist. It's like, hey, I like how that's all caps too.
Like, did you screw up Valentine's Day? We have an extra reservation. I like that.
We have an ads.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. That's Escalation.

Speaker 3 Best Valentine's Day memory is making a couple hundred bucks in college. And honestly, I don't blame you because

Speaker 3 if you make $200 in like a day in college, you're a king for semester.

Speaker 1 That was a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Okay, so. Valentine's Day, happy Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 The real news that we got to get to, the Houston Astros have finally faced the media, and I think they somehow made it significantly worse they're all forgiven this was a great apology you trot Jose Altuve out there for 30 seconds he kept it short as as he usually does it was El Tuve Bregman and then Dusty Baker that has like nothing to do with it Dusty Baker just had to fall on the sword and everyone be like hey you love Dusty Baker don't you his name's Dusty I mean Dusty should have gone out there and just been like I'd like to apologize for all the cheating that we didn't he could take like full responsibility for everything even though he wasn't there and that would be better than what they actually did so let's play the audio of Jim Crane, the owner of the Houston Astros, and this was an all-time moment.

Speaker 9 You know, our opinion is,

Speaker 9 you know, that this didn't impact the game.

Speaker 9 We had a good team,

Speaker 9 we won the World Series, and we'll leave it at that.

Speaker 10 Jim, when talking about the Yankees, there, did you say you feel like this didn't impact the game?

Speaker 9 And what do you mean by that?

Speaker 9 I didn't say it didn't impact the game.

Speaker 9 I didn't say it didn't impact the game.

Speaker 1 So there it is.

Speaker 1 Jim Crane, like he said, in his opinion, it didn't impact the game. Yes, they cheated.
He admitted they cheated, but it didn't impact the game.

Speaker 1 Then when asked whether it was crazy that he just said it didn't impact the game, he defiantly said, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 I did not say that.

Speaker 1 Even though he said it 50 seconds earlier. Like Francesa.
I guess I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 He says that they might have cheated, but the cheating didn't help them win the World Series.

Speaker 1 They were already good.

Speaker 3 They cheated for fun. Right.
Just to add like a little extra spice to it.

Speaker 1 They would have won anyway. It actually was eerily reminiscent to the old Rick Petino when he apologized but said that he was innocent.

Speaker 1 So he just did a blanket apology and everyone's like, well, Rick, what are you apologizing for? He's like, well, I didn't do anything wrong. But if I did, I'd like to apologize.

Speaker 3 And this was a good time to get out there and start the apology process because it's day one of spring training, right? All the reporters are a little off their game.

Speaker 3 They're probably the reporters, it's spring training for them, too. Right.
So they're not able to cover this as good as they could have.

Speaker 3 But the fact that the owner went out there and basically put his foot in his mouth right off the bat and said, like, yeah, we cheated, but the cheating didn't make us win the World Series.

Speaker 3 It's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 They just cheated.

Speaker 3 As far as cheating apologies go, Hank, where do you put this on the list of apologizing for sports teams using cameras when they shouldn't?

Speaker 5 Terrible.

Speaker 8 They did as bad a job as you could have done.

Speaker 1 It was pretty, pretty bad.

Speaker 1 And it's really not, I feel like it wasn't hard what they had to do they basically just had to say we really we cheated and we were very wrong and we're sorry and we cheated and it probably helped us greatly what does every apology need um

Speaker 1 tears

Speaker 3 oh that's good okay i'll add that to the list so tears and a direct audience someone that you're apologizing to i did not know who they were they just kind of went out there and did a shotgun approach and just spat it out into the universe they might have been apologizing to their parents for all i know they might have been apologizing to somebody on the other side of the planet.

Speaker 3 They should have apologized directly, one, to youngsters.

Speaker 1 I heard no apologies

Speaker 3 to the youngsters. Number two, to journalists.

Speaker 1 Whoa, it would have been great if he came out with the Little League patch on his arm.

Speaker 1 Being like, you know, the one that's like, play hard, like, respect your opponent, always do your best, or something like that. Be like, hey, listen, guys, see this?

Speaker 1 Remember the kids out there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, verbal meme.

Speaker 3 What should have happened is Altuve is the guy that's grabbing Dusty Baker's kid from in front of home plate and then the person coming down the third baseline is the Astros cheating scandal. Right.

Speaker 3 They should have apologized to youngsters from coast to coast and apologized to the journalists that have been covering this game.

Speaker 1 Well, I actually disagree with you because the first two, that's fine, but the real apology, the only way that they were going to be able to like move on from this is they had to apologize to each and every Yankee fan on Twitter because those guys are never going to stop.

Speaker 1 Yep. Ever, ever, ever.
So they should have just pulled out a scroll and just started reading every single name. Joey from Staten Island, I'm sorry.
Joey. Sal from the Bronx.

Speaker 1 Sal, I'm sorry. You know, and just gone down the list and said sorry to every Yankee fan.
And then maybe at the end.

Speaker 3 Liz, like from Arlington, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Maybe the banner in Houston has to have pinstripes. Oh, that's what they did.

Speaker 3 That's not bad. That's not a bad idea.
I also think that the Dodgers, I take my hat off to the Los Angeles Dodgers, not because of this scandal,

Speaker 3 but because they uh they helped the nationals win the world series this year because they told them hey just so you know they're going to cheat like motherfuckers all the time and so the nats should get two worlds i actually think the nats should get the astros uh 2017 world series

Speaker 3 because they beat the team that was cheating what who the astros were still cheating right but they beat wait so but why would the nats get that because it's cooler if the nats win two world series in one year but where's the leap to the 2017 because i'm a washington nationals fan and i want the nationals to have more World Series.

Speaker 1 Wait, but 2000, wait, you mean 2019 they get two World Series or 2017 they also get a World Series?

Speaker 3 They acquire the Astros cheating World Series. Got it.
Because they beat them while they were all. The only team that has ever beaten the cheating Astros in a World Series is the Washington Nationals.

Speaker 3 Got it.

Speaker 1 I thought there was actually like an actual line you were doing. No, there's no real reason.
I was like, hey, this is how we should get them.

Speaker 3 No, there's no rhyme or reason to it. I just want more credit for my team.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay, that's fair.
That's fair to say. So, yeah, the Astros.
This isn't going away, by the way.

Speaker 1 Rob Manfred, where the hell are you, dude? Like, you threw out the playoff rules, got everyone talking about that, which you should have done, by the way, the day after the Astros apologize.

Speaker 1 But Rob Manford, I think he just is like hiding under his desk.

Speaker 1 Every morning he comes in and his secretary hands him a piece of paper and is like the top of the list is like, deal with the Astros cheating scandal.

Speaker 1 And he just stares at it and like doodles on the paper and doesn't do anything.

Speaker 3 Well, let me ask you this. Do you know what Rob Manford looks like? Could you describe him?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I can.

Speaker 3 Oh, because I can't. I don't know what he looks like at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 In my mind's eye, he's got like a slightly like a pale, red, curly Afro-type thing.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like a weathered, he's like a weathered financial advisor.

Speaker 11 So Bud Selig.

Speaker 1 Kind of. A younger Bud Selig.

Speaker 3 A spry Bud Selig.

Speaker 1 A younger Bud Selig. But yeah, so the Astros, I don't, this is going to go on all year.
I'm a white guy.

Speaker 3 He's an old white guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to get thrown at all the time, which is going to be awesome. Like, they break the record for players that throw at them.

Speaker 1 And that's really what it comes down to: is like, I know why they did, why the commissioner released the whole findings and was like, well, it's just A.J.

Speaker 1 Hinch and, you know, behind the scenes guys, and we'll fire them and we'll move on. But it's the players.
This was a players' cheating scandal.

Speaker 1 So if you're a player and you're sitting there, like, what the fuck? Like, punish the players. So I don't, and Bregman, who's been on this show, and I think he's a friend of some people at Barstool.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 if you're like Bregman and you are talkative and cocky, which I love, it's good for baseball, you can't then just clam up when you get caught cheating. Like, you got to actually face the music here.

Speaker 3 In fact, I'd like to kick El Tuve out of the Short Guys Club. There you go.
See you. See you, pal.

Speaker 3 You know what? You're 6'1 to me.

Speaker 1 Get out of my next club.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm insane.

Speaker 3 I've been elected to be the president from that club.

Speaker 1 Checkmate.

Speaker 3 I'm like Mike Bloomberg. I can say that I'm anywhere between

Speaker 3 foot seven and six foot one

Speaker 3 on any given day uh listen i think that this just reinforces the idea that every single organization should have a vice president of apologies yeah apologizing is not hard but there should be one person that specializes in it and that's able to dictate things and uh that person needs to be hired by the houston astros and probably ohio state football too because they stepped in it again that was more than stepping bring bring urban meyer back to clean up the mess that is Ohio State football.

Speaker 1 The PR people, whoever's the PR person in Houston, how they still have a job is insane. I don't care.
Because they've done every single thing wrong.

Speaker 1 And that's even going back before the cheating scandal with the guy that they fired during the World Series, too. Like everything they do wrong.

Speaker 3 Including not winning World Series.

Speaker 1 Crazy. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's the Astros. It's going to continue.

Speaker 3 Relegate them to the MLS.

Speaker 1 It's going to keep going. And then Jim Crane at the end was like, yeah, we're looking forward to a really good season.
And that's that.

Speaker 3 Yep. Their Their entire strategy was: let's bring it up day one so we never have to address it again.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So you can watch us: barstowgold.com/slash PMT.
The other news.

Speaker 1 Standing on a cornea, James Swinson, Tampa, Florida. Such a fine sight to finally see.

Speaker 1 It's a laser, my lord. My eyes are feeling sore, and my vision's now 2020.

Speaker 1 Come on, Bruce.

Speaker 1 My eyes are goochy.

Speaker 1 The only thing I'm turning over is a new

Speaker 1 leaf.

Speaker 1 And that's the big news. Jameis Squinston,

Speaker 1 he's got LASIK surgery and he can finally see.

Speaker 3 I hope he still squints, though.

Speaker 1 Dude, okay, so this was a rumor that was out there for at least a week, and he took a picture with the goggles, so everyone thought it might have happened. It was confirmed today.

Speaker 1 The thing I just don't understand is if you're Jameis Winston's teammate or coach or anyone in his life, and he's like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I actually need LASIK surgery, aren't you like, what the fuck have you been doing, dude? Like, you've just been missing linebackers because you cannot see? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jameis Winston, I know we joke about being a future Hall of Famer, but just think about this. The guy threw for 30-30 and 5,000 yards, and he's blind or was blind.

Speaker 3 I think that this is actually the perfect time to get LASIK surgery because it's in that decision year. Yeah.
So they have to make a choice. Are they going to franchise tag him or let him go?

Speaker 3 This is all the leverage that Jameis had building up his back pocket. What I don't want to happen for purely selfish reasons, I don't want Jameis to become a boring quarterback.

Speaker 3 I don't want him to go like

Speaker 3 for 20 and 13.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 physical comedy will never stop.

Speaker 3 He didn't have hand enlarging surgery. Yeah.
But still, I'm a little bit upset about this. I love Jameis for the interception.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine? Could you imagine if next year he goes like 50 and 5 and is the MVP and takes the Bucs in a deep playoff run and everyone just sitting there saying, you can see now.

Speaker 1 You can actually play the position because you can see. This is the most Jameis Winston story ever where he just, like, why wasn't he wearing contacts? Why wasn't he wearing goggles?

Speaker 3 I mean, we could also stay woke on this and just maybe he didn't actually have the surgery.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, he did.

Speaker 3 No, I know that the reports were out there yesterday. I saw all those, but like, maybe, just maybe, this is a blueprint for other quarterbacks that have a bad year, like Mitch Trubisky.

Speaker 3 He takes a picture of giant glasses on. You don't even have to get the surgery.
Just tell people that you did.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 3 You know what I really want to see? I want to see Jameis when he steps onto the field for the first time with his perfect eyesight.

Speaker 3 It's going to be like those videos that you see of the kids that can't hear, that get the implant in their head, and they listen to classical music for the first time, and they start to cry.

Speaker 3 Like Jameis, under center, when he sees it, he identifies his own blitz for the first time ever, and he just weeps because it's so beautiful.

Speaker 1 I actually think that's going to happen. I think they're going to go to OTAs, and he's going to stop and be like, time out, time out.

Speaker 1 So that's where the linebackers always are?

Speaker 3 There's somebody in between the defensive line and the safety.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Have you guys been there the whole time?

Speaker 3 He's going to be like, I feel like I'm hallucinating on acid.

Speaker 1 You guys always told me that there were 11 guys on defense, but I always assumed there was eight. What the fuck? That's tough.

Speaker 3 Now, is Jameis going to be able to use this to blame everything else that he's done wrong in his life? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 I thought that the crab legs were free. I thought it said, take one.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The Uber driver, that one's going to be tough.

Speaker 3 I thought I was ordering a prostitute on my phone. I thought it was Boober.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I accidentally hit the U. I thought no one was in the cafeteria when I stood up on the table and said, fuck her right in the pussy.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I thought the lift driver's vagina was a bottle of hand sanitizer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's Jameis Winston. He can finally see.
This is, god damn it, he is the best. And you know what? He's only 26.
It's great. We're going to have Jameis for he is the future.

Speaker 1 Like, we've talked about it. We lost Eli.
We're losing Phil Rivers. You know, who knows where Big Ben is, although he was at the West Virginia game looking like a mountaineer.

Speaker 1 But that was such a funny picture. Like,

Speaker 1 who's the mountaineer?

Speaker 3 It was a Spider-Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's going on here?

Speaker 3 You're not even trying. The funny part was they sat down, Ben sat down near the Mountaineer, not for the purpose of attracting his attention.

Speaker 3 He just looked at each other and they actually did the spider. They're like, I'm going to point at you.
Can I put on your hat?

Speaker 3 And it was great because, like, when Ben was wearing the Mountaineer hat, I actually didn't recognize Monrock this person.

Speaker 1 I didn't either. When you quote-to-I was like, what? Oh, BFT's watching some college basketball.
And I was like, wait, no, that's Ben Roxas. I'm definitely not watching college basketball.

Speaker 3 I was reading my book and falling asleep.

Speaker 1 But so Jameis Winston is the future. He is the future of comedy in the NFL.
And I'm so happy that he got Lasic so that we can make more jokes about it.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 And hopefully he's amazing. Like,

Speaker 1 if he is the MVP next year, it will be the greatest story in sports. No.
The guy who couldn't see.

Speaker 3 Is this going to be like Jonah Hill, though, or other comedians when they lose a little bit of weight? No. It's funny.

Speaker 1 No, because you're forgetting. Even Jameis Winston, like, if he can see the linebackers, that will obviously...
decrease his interceptions. But he's still Jameis Winston.

Speaker 1 He still thinks that he can make every throw. He's still, when he gets sacked or gets under pressure, he starts flopping around everywhere.
There will still be funny. He's still going to eat a W.

Speaker 1 He might even eat more W's now.

Speaker 3 Well, what also might happen is he might feel so confident now that he's got great eyesight that he takes more chances.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 So I would be pissed off, though, if I was one of his receivers or running backs, and

Speaker 3 it kind of like hurts your contract because you're not a two-way player anymore. You're not making tackles.
Right.

Speaker 1 His stats are going to go down. But either way, that was the biggest story.
I mean, next stop, Canton. James Winston on his way to Canton.
The other thing.

Speaker 3 Also, one other thing I noticed was this picture of the glasses. These post-surgery LASIK glasses have gotten a lot cooler in just the last 20 years.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 They used to be like the old people huge wraparound boxy ones.

Speaker 1 It used to give off

Speaker 1 like a Florida casino slot machine vibe. Yeah.
Now it's, ooh, maybe, you know, like a cool club in New York City where you're listening to EDM. Do they still listen to EDM? They listen to EDM.

Speaker 1 EDM feels like it's gone out though. No? Okay.
EDM's still here. Cool.
Good.

Speaker 3 As long as there are drugs, there will be EDM fans.

Speaker 8 That's true.

Speaker 1 They are one and the same in terms of the market of that music. It's like what ACID was for the Grateful Dead.

Speaker 3 You know what I heard? Jeff Schwartz, huge EDM fan.

Speaker 5 Really? Massive, massive.

Speaker 1 Geoff?

Speaker 3 Geoff Schwartz,

Speaker 3 when he's not defending his brother on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Or talking about technique of offensive lineman, high school offensive lineman.

Speaker 3 Getting mad about people praising the wrong attributes.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy video that went viral. There's this video, you probably, not everyone lives online like we do.

Speaker 3 It was Tom Cruise's ass.

Speaker 1 It was a offensive line prospect who's like, this is why he's one of the top prospects in the entire

Speaker 1 high school in America.

Speaker 1 And it shows him going one-on-one with a kid who beats him to the outside, then cuts on the inside, and the offensive lineman just completely holds him and then throws him into the invisible quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sacked the quarterback.
It was the worst

Speaker 1 technique ever. And everyone's like, look at this guy.
So all the offensive linemen came to the rescue and was like, this is actually terrible. Don't teach this.
Actually, bad.

Speaker 3 Jeff Schwartz is leading that shit. Can you imagine Jeff Schwartz?

Speaker 1 While it's in a Diplo?

Speaker 3 Jeff Schwartz at a Diplo concert, front row, probably wearing like a wife beater, the smallest oval sunglasses that you've ever seen in your history.

Speaker 1 Dude, could you imagine Jeff Schwartz if he was in a, if he, this is way too much Geoff Schwartz talk. Shout out, Jeff.
If he was in a mosh pit, like an offensive lineman's technique in a mosh pit?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just pancaking people left and right, throwing people around, just doing the whirlwind, the windmill.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Before we get to our interview with Handball Pro Xavier O'Callaghan, PFD, did you want to give me a quick preview for the XFL this weekend? Yeah, I can give you a quick preview.

Speaker 1 The buzz feels a little like it's come off a little. No,

Speaker 3 absolutely. It's rivalry week.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 How dare you say that during rivalry week?

Speaker 3 So I did.

Speaker 3 This week, we've got the matchup of the Vile Guardians from New York against my DC defenders uh dc defenders favored by five and a half points uh they would be defend they would be favored by six if they had a kicker that could make a 35 yard field goal but they knocked a half point off they took that into consideration i think i'm going to be at the game i'm

Speaker 3 addicted to the game day experience nice at audi field nice and in fact The game day experience was so good last week that many are saying that Dan Snyder is looking to sell the Redskins because he knows that he cannot compete against that type of environment.

Speaker 3 So that team might be on the the sale block soon. Then we got Tampa Bay Vipers at the Dragons.
Vipers, your boy Mark Tressman, you took the over for their win total.

Speaker 3 They got smoked last week by the Guardians. Yeah.
They're favored by two and a half at Jim Zorn's Dragons.

Speaker 1 A long flight for Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Dragons, I guess. Okay.

Speaker 3 It's a long flight for Tressman.

Speaker 1 And then the Roughnecks, I'll take them too.

Speaker 3 Dallas Renegades at the Wildcats. Renegades favored the Renegades.
Taking the Renegades. Broken Rowback just got signed to the team.

Speaker 1 Great. So that's your XFL buzz.

Speaker 3 And then you're taking the roughnecks. Yeah, and then I'm taking the roughnecks.
Minus eight against the Battle Hogs. Sure.

Speaker 1 Listen, spreads don't matter in this league. I just pick winners.

Speaker 3 You're taking the over in every game? Nope.

Speaker 1 Under in every game.

Speaker 3 I'm taking the over in every game. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a game. Mono Raymano.
It's going to correct. They're going to all of a sudden get good at football.

Speaker 3 You're going to go back to the meme. That was Grumpy Cat poo-pooing the XFL.

Speaker 1 I'm not poo-pooing it. I'm going to watch it a little bit.
It's a little bit. I'm going to watch it a little bit.
A little poo-poo. I'm going to wait for like half of that conversation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did too. I started zoning out the minute the teams were being named.
I will try to keep watching it.

Speaker 3 It's football.

Speaker 1 It's not. It is, but it isn't.

Speaker 3 It's football.

Speaker 1 Okay, I will try to watch it. So I watched it last week.

Speaker 8 There's no double passes or three-point attempts this week.

Speaker 5 I might be out. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't have all these new rules and then not have anything actually be done. Like, you're just playing conservative football with worse players.

Speaker 5 So let's do it. Let's pay.

Speaker 1 This is our way to tell XFL, get your shit in gear and get going and fix this shit.

Speaker 3 Double passes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Do everything. Make it fun.
Let's have fun. Sign someone.
Is that wrong? To kick. Sign wrong.

Speaker 5 I mean sign

Speaker 5 personalities.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Sign a personality to kick.

Speaker 1 To kick.

Speaker 1 Are you going to be on a team or no?

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 3 What's great about the XFL is, to their credit, maybe this is like Stockholm Syndrome since they've taken me hostage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they totally have taken you.

Speaker 1 The smartest thing they ever did was basically dangle this in front of you so that they can have you be like, this is awesome.

Speaker 3 But here's the thing. I almost respect the fact that they didn't put me on the week one roster, that I was not signed to a company, because you only have 52 guys.

Speaker 3 They have like actual game day rosters. Right.
They are more concerned about winning

Speaker 3 than they don't want to give me a spot. They don't want to be a side shift.
They don't want to give me a spot that I haven't earned. And while you could make the argument that maybe

Speaker 1 I did earn it,

Speaker 1 but then when they sign you,

Speaker 1 the rosters will expand. Oh, they do.
When are they expanding?

Speaker 3 They're going to expand a little bit. When? I forget the exact exact week, but they're expanding.

Speaker 1 What does a little bit mean?

Speaker 3 I think by like three or four days.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. I didn't know that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay. So I'm just saying, I was a bubble guy.

Speaker 1 September call-ups.

Speaker 3 I was a bubble guy. I got cut.
That's what happens to bubble guys. It's on me to change the math.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 A September call-up, that counts as being in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 3 If they bring me in for a playoff run,

Speaker 3 I'll accept that.

Speaker 1 You're in playoffs now. There we go.
Get in there.

Speaker 1 Maybe you make a playoff kick.

Speaker 3 Well, now it's in my head that maybe I'll make the game-winning championship kick.

Speaker 3 That'd be something.

Speaker 3 That'd be something, wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 They really got you.

Speaker 3 Or maybe I just.

Speaker 1 Oliver Luck is a marketing genius.

Speaker 1 Let's make this guy think he's going to be on a team, and then he will be saying how awesome the league is for a year.

Speaker 3 Oliver Luck is a marketing genius. He saw me on the sideline before the DC game last week and he made a B-line over to me.

Speaker 1 He's like, he's like, dude, Peter, he's the number one sports podcast.

Speaker 3 We're talking about his league. He's like, great to see you, buddy.
Great to see you. You know, we're really hoping that we can get you out there.
And I was like, Yes, sir, Oliver.

Speaker 1 He's like, and then after he stopped talking, or at the end of the conversation, was he like, and you're going to make sure you mention the league, right? On PMT, right?

Speaker 1 You're going to talk about it, right?

Speaker 3 He's like, That asshole big cat doesn't like our league. You make sure to

Speaker 1 leave.

Speaker 1 I agree with Hank. I need more excitement.
Yeah, this is, we're at the exact same spot we were with AF last year.

Speaker 1 Like, this is the these next two weeks are going to be make or break XFL weeks for me, where if they can get me to like watch and be like, holy shit, that was fun, I'll I'll be in.

Speaker 3 I'm also thinking that there's an outside chance that with what I've put on film already and what I will continue to put on film, maybe I get a call for a training camp for an NFL team.

Speaker 3 Maybe I'm a camp leg.

Speaker 1 Okay, there you go. Yeah, that would, yeah, they need camp legs.

Speaker 3 They do. Did you see how bad the kicking was last year? They need camp legs.
I'm not worse than Vinatari.

Speaker 1 Nope, that's true.

Speaker 1 No, that is true. Yeah, it is true.
I'm a better kicker than I'm four for six. I'm 35.

Speaker 3 I'm a better kicker than the greatest kicker of all time.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview with Xavier O'Callahan Handball Pro. Awesome interview.
We're actually gonna do it for gold, but it was so good we're gonna put it into a regular PMT.

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Speaker 1 okay we now welcome on handball pro xavier o'callahan does pronounce all that right you say

Speaker 1 what's your nickname oka oka from o'callah

Speaker 1 i knew you had a good nickname So he's here to talk to us about handball. He is a former handball pro, played in the Olympics.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Scored a couple goals in the Olympics. More than a couple of goals.
More than a couple of goals. A little cocky.
I like it. Did you win a gold?

Speaker 11 No, it was a broads medalist. Okay.

Speaker 3 Was that in Sydney?

Speaker 11 Sydney 2000.

Speaker 1 Okay. Very good.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So we brought you in because we've had a debate that started very organically. I don't know if you've seen it.

Speaker 11 Yes, I was aware of that.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you have because the handball community is very angry at it. That's why.
Jay Cutler, former Chicago Bears quarterback,

Speaker 1 said that he thinks he could get a gold medal in handball if he got a bunch of pro-athletes from all American sports and they just trained for a couple months and jumped into it.

Speaker 1 Now, before we get to that debate, can we at least just go through step-by-step handball, how it's played, the rules? Like, how many people are on the court?

Speaker 11 There are two teams of seven players, one goalie and six players.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 11 And roster usually has 16 players. Okay.
So it's very dynamic. You don't need to stop the game to make changes.
So you are playing and you are leaving and coming in, coming out.

Speaker 3 Like in hockey, they're rolling.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 5 Is it that quick?

Speaker 1 It's very quick. Is it more like basketball where they call timeout and they do a sub?

Speaker 11 No, no, no. It's very quick.
It's like

Speaker 1 hockey. In the middle of the action.

Speaker 11 You don't need to stop. You can play and you can leave the court whenever you want for a replacement.

Speaker 3 Okay, now how fast do the shots come? If you have like the top players in the world?

Speaker 11 Miles, I think, is maybe more than 80 miles per hour.

Speaker 11 80, okay. More than.

Speaker 1 Okay, more than the big shooters, they can do it faster. Yeah, what about kilograms? Yeah.
I mean, kilometers.

Speaker 11 Kilometers is more than 100.

Speaker 1 Okay. That sounds so much really fast.

Speaker 11 It's fast, you know. It's fast.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 So. Seven on seven at any time.
How many officials are on the court?

Speaker 1 Two.

Speaker 3 Two. Now, is there punching a lot? Is it like hockey where you're pushing?

Speaker 11 It's quite physical, yes. I would say that.

Speaker 11 Okay. You know, physical component is really important and it's something that is very common and that there are a lot of contact, you know, and it's a rough stuff.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 what would you say like the attributes of a professional handball player are? Like if you told me, if you asked me, you know, what about a basketball player?

Speaker 1 I'd be like, well, you really have to be at... at like shortest like 6'1.

Speaker 1 You know, 6'1 and taller, and the taller, the better. Or like if if it's football, obviously, the stronger, the better.
What is a

Speaker 1 perfect handball player?

Speaker 11 In handball, it's a combination of things. Of course, the tall is the better, but you can be less than 6 and be able to play much less.

Speaker 11 You can be five-something, and you can play on the wing because, you know,

Speaker 11 it's like a soccer team, you know? The midfielder is very different from the wing in soccer because, you know, you have to be fast

Speaker 11 and technique, and maybe in the middlefield, you have to be stronger. So in handball there are different positions and different body types adapt to this position.

Speaker 1 But in general, if you are tall and you are strong, it's very, very important.

Speaker 3 So you've got your like Cristiano Ronaldo's in the middle and then you've got your Messi's.

Speaker 1 Exactly. What about sh what so strength?

Speaker 5 What about speed?

Speaker 1 It's not a very big... What's the court?

Speaker 11 It's in meters, it's 40 meters length and 20 wide. It's a little bit bigger.
than a basketball court.

Speaker 1 Okay, so speed matters, but it's not. There's not like...

Speaker 11 Well, you know, fast break is really important, and you have to run a lot it's bigger than a basketball court yes yes bigger bigger and wider both okay so when you have the ball in hand do you have to dribble do you have to punch it to yourself how does that work you can it's like in basketball you can boat and and if you're uh bouncing uh how do you say bouncing yeah you can run with the ball but bouncing

Speaker 1 with when you take the ball in your hands only you can do three steps not two like in basketball well three basketball is more like three or four well in the nba yes in europe no in europe is only even though in traveling in the nba yeah you have different rules yeah so okay, so you have to bounce it every three or four steps.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I read that you have to make an attempt to try to go towards that, a scoring attempt, otherwise the ref calls you for a delay of game, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 So you have to at least make, you have to act like you're trying to score. You can't just hold on to the ball and run out the clock.

Speaker 11 You are right, exactly. This is a very subjective part because the referee has

Speaker 11 the influence making that decision. If you are not willing to score a goal, try to imagine you are winning and you want to get the ball and you are not attacking.

Speaker 1 That is a very important part because we need to be sure that we are trying always to score goals now are you if you're a defensive player are you allowed to go past half court yes of course okay so everyone go everywhere yes all right so it's not okay all right and then there's a crease that you can't go into though right and how big is that crease six meters and and i've seen some of the clips like you can as long as you leave your feet before yeah can you land in the crease but you have to shoot before you land got it so you have to do it in the air Okay, so but if you got a long jumper on your team, you could jump from the edge of the line into the goal and just let go right at the goal line.

Speaker 11 Can you make contact with the goalie? No, no, you can't.

Speaker 3 Okay. What if the goalie makes contact with you, though? What if it's his fault?

Speaker 11 It's it, you know,

Speaker 11 it depends on what the situation it is, but

Speaker 11 the interpretation of the referee can can be different, you know. Sometimes it's because if you are trying to, it's not happening because we are professionals.
Right.

Speaker 11 So you have control of your body and usually there are no contact. But sometimes it could happen.
But there is no never, I never remember, bad intention thing, people trying to do something like this.

Speaker 11 Right. Now, what about if you are a goalie and you are watching a guy with

Speaker 11 220 pounds coming along in front of you shooting, you have to be a little bit crazy to be there.

Speaker 1 That's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 So on defense, are you allowed to tackle?

Speaker 1 Can you

Speaker 3 tackle like fully on

Speaker 3 wrap them up, bite them to the bottom?

Speaker 11 You have to do it in front of the guy. so you have to tackle him.
You cannot do it from behind, so it's very important.

Speaker 11 And there is like in Joké a penalty. If you are too rough, the referee can say you are two minutes out and you have to play two minutes with one player less.

Speaker 3 Okay, now what does too rough mean?

Speaker 11 Mean of

Speaker 3 you can if big cat was coming, I mean, I could push him like that, right? But I can't grab him.

Speaker 1 Exactly. You can hold it, you can hold,

Speaker 11 not holding this way, you have to hold it in front.

Speaker 11 So you have to make control of the arm and the hip but you cannot just hold the guy and and try to you know like wrestling try to kill him you know so what uh how many how long are the games uh two pass of half an hour half an hour one hour whoa that's a long time

Speaker 1 what about like what's an average for the pro level or olympic level what's an average score usually more than 30 goals per team it's a very american sport you know you will love it it's fast paced physical you have a score you score a lot of goals

Speaker 11 It's the perfect American sport, I would say.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You don't know. Yeah, yeah.
All right. So, this is an important question that I think gets to the debate more than anything.

Speaker 1 At what age did you start playing handball?

Speaker 11 I started when I was six.

Speaker 1 Okay, and now you're from Spain, right?

Speaker 11 I am from Barcelona.

Speaker 1 Okay, so how many kids play handball at the age of six?

Speaker 11 In Spain,

Speaker 11 at the age of six, I don't know, but official licenses, around 100,000.

Speaker 1 Okay, so like in

Speaker 1 America, everyone plays Little League Baseball. You know what I mean? Like, even if you're not good at baseball, you play teamball and all that stuff.
Would you say it's similar in Spain?

Speaker 11 Everybody plays handball because it's part of the physical education at the schools. So it's one of the things that you do.

Speaker 11 Then you can decide, you can make a decision if you want to play handball, basketball, or volleyball, or soccer. Usually, everybody wants to play soccer.
Right.

Speaker 11 But there are a lot of players in different sports, and handball is quite popular in Europe.

Speaker 3 Okay, so at that age, let's say the age of 15, 16 years old, when kids start to pick the sports that they really want to focus on the most, do you find that the more athletic kids tend to play soccer?

Speaker 11 No, the more athletic kids try to play soccer, handball, or basketball. The most talented players

Speaker 11 with the ball, with the feet,

Speaker 11 they use to choose soccer.

Speaker 1 And it sounds like the most talented, tall people in Spain play basketball first.

Speaker 1 Handball second. Yes.
Would it be basketball first, though?

Speaker 11 Yes. In Europe, you know, there are, you know, in Spain for sure, basketball is bigger.

Speaker 11 But if you go to Germany, you go to Denmark, Sweden, Hungary, France, there, handball is the second biggest sport.

Speaker 1 Interesting. So who is the best country at handball?

Speaker 11 Well, there are a lot of them, you know.

Speaker 1 But like, who's the powerhouse?

Speaker 11 Nowadays, Spain was the last European champion with the national teams. Germany has the strongest league.

Speaker 11 France, they have a very good league as well. And there are a lot of professional players.

Speaker 11 It's a professional sport.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 In the professional leagues in Germany, what is the average salary?

Speaker 11 Well, I think the average is around $150,000.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. Oh, that's pretty good.
So it's similar to...

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, that got it.

Speaker 11 I would say the average, you know, people making half a million, probably, yes.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Would you say that it's a disadvantage to Barcelona because it's such a great city and it's right on the beach that people would rather go out and just drink beers in the sand as opposed to practice sports?

Speaker 11 You know, we love sports. You love the American, you love the sport, but in Barcelona, you have time for everything.
To go to the beach, to enjoy with your people, and to play sports.

Speaker 1 Just too much great sports. Are you more of a Picasso guy or a gaudy guy?

Speaker 11 I'm a gaudy guy. Okay.
I love the architecture, that gaudy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so how long have you lived in America?

Speaker 11 One year and a half.

Speaker 1 All right, and have you watched American sports? Like how much are you? You love all of them, yeah.

Speaker 11 Okay. I love American uh football.

Speaker 1 Okay. I love basketball.

Speaker 11 Okay. And baseball is a little bit more complicated for me.

Speaker 1 Are you big? I would imagine, like who who do you like more? Power Mark?

Speaker 1 Power. Okay.
I know him. Yeah.
Oh, you do? Yeah, of course. And yeah.
Personally? Yeah. He's a very interesting guy.

Speaker 11 I have a very very nice story with him.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 11 Because when I was very young, I wanna I think that I'm have the confidence to to say that.

Speaker 11 I was training at the at the gym alone, summertime, you know, you need need to work out in order to be in shape. And I was alone working, you know, suffering because I wasn't very tough.

Speaker 11 So I wasn't very strong, so I was lifting weights. I don't like it, but it was very, very complicated for me.
And there was the physical coach of the basketball team. He came with two very young guys.

Speaker 11 One was Pau Gazol, and the other one, you don't know me probably, but it's the best ever player in Barcelona, Juan Carlos Navarro. Okay.
So both of them were.

Speaker 1 Can you say his name again?

Speaker 11 Juan Carlos Navarro.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 11 He was playing one year in the NBA in Memphis.

Speaker 1 Juan Carlos Navarro? Navarro, yes.

Speaker 11 He's the best player ever in Europe, probably. And Pau was playing with him in the junior team, in the second team in Barcelona.
So they were there with

Speaker 11 the physical coach of the first team, and they had to do some workout. And that guy, the physical coach, left.
And, you know, this is the list, the things that you have to do. I'm leaving.

Speaker 11 I will be back. And both of them, they were chatting, talking all the time and doing nothing.
You know, they

Speaker 11 took some water, they were just

Speaker 1 showing limbs.

Speaker 11 And when the guy came, they were saying, No, we have been working a lot because we are sweeting a lot.

Speaker 11 I thought to myself, none of those guys will be professional ever because they don't have the nice work attitude. For sure, they change it, no? But I always remember that I was doing

Speaker 11 a bad

Speaker 11 impression of the guys because they were not hard workers at that time. But they have been very good players, very worth ethic players.
But nowadays, I cannot compete with them

Speaker 11 with my

Speaker 11 success as a sports guy.

Speaker 11 But, you know, at that time, I thought none of them will be a personal player.

Speaker 1 That's too lazy. Did you ever tell Powell that story since you've seen him? I don't think so.

Speaker 11 Okay, you got to tell him that.

Speaker 1 That's a fantastic story. Yeah.
I mean, I would probably do the same if my coach walked away.

Speaker 1 All right, so you know, you obviously, so that helps because you obviously know high-level basketball, you watch football, you know all this. So when Jay Cutler says something like this,

Speaker 1 do you think it's completely insane or maybe a little bit of truth knowing that some of these guys that are playing high-level football have all the skills that would work in handball, they just haven't played handball?

Speaker 11 What he's saying is insane.

Speaker 1 What? That's insane.

Speaker 11 He cannot win Olympic medal training two or three months.

Speaker 1 Okay, maybe

Speaker 1 let me present an analogy. An analogy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Try to imagine that you want to cook something, you want to cook, okay, you need ingredients, you need food.

Speaker 11 You, the Americans, you have the perfect food for being a professional athlete and to compete in a high, high level, okay?

Speaker 11 But when you want to cook that food, you need the technique, you need how to mix it, how to cook it at the temperature, you need to know things.

Speaker 11 This is something that Jay Cadler or any player doesn't have right now.

Speaker 11 So you have the potential to be an amazing athletes and to play in high level, but it takes time to be able to be a professional, a very good handball player.

Speaker 11 So what I'm meaning is, in the short term, it's impossible. Insane.

Speaker 11 In the long term, it takes years for sure.

Speaker 1 But Jay Cutler could, if he were to train, like if there was a different world and Jay Cutler was born, same exact guy in Barcelona, he could be a professional handball player.

Speaker 1 Of course, and probably one of the best. Okay.
But he needs to train.

Speaker 11 He needs to understand the game. He needs to train every day.
So it's a matter of technique. It's not just a physical condition.
It's the technique and the tactic.

Speaker 11 You need to read the game to know when you have to move, when to pass the ball, when you have to shoot. So those kinds of things, you need to learn them.

Speaker 11 And it's not a matter of one or two or three months. Now, let's flip it.

Speaker 1 Do you think the best handball player in Spain, if he was born in

Speaker 1 Tampa, Florida, and grew up playing American football, do you think he could be an NFL quarterback?

Speaker 11 I think it's exactly the same explanation. So if you want to do it in three months, forget it.
In one year, forget it. If this guy is educated and coached since he's young, for sure.

Speaker 11 Because, you know, in handball, you have players who are 6.4, 220,

Speaker 1 and they know how to throw the ball, so they know how to raise the ball.

Speaker 3 The interesting thing, though, is I think that handball is kind of a perfect mix of a lot of different sports that we already grew up playing in America. Exactly.
So it's a combination.

Speaker 3 So it's not like we don't have any of the techniques.

Speaker 3 Whereas football, American football, if you grow up in Barcelona, you probably don't play American football unless your family is from America or you have some connection to the sport.

Speaker 3 Maybe you really like Madden. I don't know.
But you usually probably don't play American football. And it's very, very much different from any other sport that's played in Europe.

Speaker 3 But with handball, it seems like the learning curve would be a little shorter. I mean, we can even build the team out from the back if you start at goalkeeper.

Speaker 3 For example, if we had Tim Howard playing goalkeeper on our team, I feel like he could become a world-class handball goalkeeper within a year because he's got all the technique right there, right?

Speaker 11 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 It's a smaller goal.

Speaker 3 He's played high-level

Speaker 3 soccer football for a long time.

Speaker 11 Have you seen a goalkeeper in handball?

Speaker 1 I have. You know what?

Speaker 3 I have watched goalkeepers in handball. They're bad.

Speaker 1 They're all bad.

Speaker 11 From Europe or from the U.S.

Speaker 3 No, in all the videos that I've watched, they're all bad. And then a goal gets in and they just don't care.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, I get scored on. I don't agree on that.

Speaker 3 They all say, like, oh, I get scored on 30 times a match. It doesn't matter if that one went in.

Speaker 11 Goalie is a very important player in Hanbal.

Speaker 1 Very important player.

Speaker 11 And they are good, good, very good players in Europe. So, you know, I think that one year is not enough.
You know,

Speaker 11 the Olympic, the Hanbal Olympic team, they want to build something for the the Olympics in Los Angeles. They need to start right now.

Speaker 11 If you want to do something, if you want to compete in the level to fight for the medals, not to be there. To fight for the medals, you have to start right now with the people.
Be careful.

Speaker 3 Be careful with what you're saying right now because what you might be doing, you might be awakening a sleeping giant. I will use it.

Speaker 1 Because we automatically take you out for Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 We're going to be in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 In Los Angeles, there are probably millions of eight to ten year old kids out there that are listening to you right now saying, you know what, I'm going to prove that Spaniard wrong.

Speaker 3 I'm going to hit the gym tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Oka's gonna dominate. That's right.

Speaker 3 Oka doesn't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 I would love to be wrong.

Speaker 11 Oh, but I'm so now I'm not wrong.

Speaker 1 No, you're wrong.

Speaker 6 What are you gonna say, Hank?

Speaker 8 All right, so it's it's seven players on the court, right? Yeah, what if you have four experienced handball players and then you get three stud athletes and you train for a year?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good question. I like it.

Speaker 11 I like it.

Speaker 1 You have more chances.

Speaker 1 You have more chances.

Speaker 8 And you have a leader that can explain and like kind of just.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, you need time. Then, you know, things are closer.

Speaker 1 So that's true.

Speaker 6 Is there a one position that's basically like the sniper?

Speaker 1 Like the guy who basically has the best arm and you're setting him up to score?

Speaker 11 No, it's yes. Usually the players who are playing on the back.
So there are three in the back and three ahead of them.

Speaker 11 Those three back, they are the key players, you know, because they have the

Speaker 11 power to shoot from outside. They are the strongest ones.
So those are the really important players. Then you have the wings.
They used to end the plays, you know?

Speaker 11 It's like if you are able to send the ball to the wing and he has enough space, he can jump and try to score. But he's not creating the game, you know? So the play.

Speaker 1 That seems like the back players, like, if we put a quarterback in there, that's everything they do. They throw it for distance, they throw it to other people.
Yeah. Like, so pocket.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, how far...

Speaker 1 The best handball player, how far do you think he could throw a handball? Or how far do you think you can throw a football?

Speaker 11 I think it was 70 yards.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Well, we got a guy who can throw 85 yards.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but I don't know in handball because

Speaker 11 the field is shorter, so I don't know how long he can shoot.

Speaker 1 But we got a guy, like I said, I mean, Josh Allen would dominate. Yeah.
I think that's the strongest arm. What about pitchers who throw like 100 miles an hour? Yeah.
Well, so

Speaker 1 how do you practice

Speaker 5 arm angles?

Speaker 8 Like, how many different arm angles are there? Well, there are shoots.

Speaker 11 different techniques to shoot. It's a little bit like in

Speaker 11 baseball, you know. Not all the balls are exactly the same.
You can fastballs, curveballs.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 8 there's like three or four angles, basically.

Speaker 1 But in handball, it seems like they're looking at it from every type of angle.

Speaker 11 You know, you can shoot stride, you can shoot, we call it rectificado, means just trying to avoid him.

Speaker 1 That's this way.

Speaker 11 Rectifado.

Speaker 1 Rectifico. Rectificado.
So it's

Speaker 11 you have a guy in front of you, and you have to try to avoid him, and you are just throwing that way. Right.
Another way is

Speaker 11 you can throw below the legs of the other defender or from the other front in a hip level, you know? So there are a lot of different techniques and not everybody knows how to use all the techniques.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 it's complicated.

Speaker 1 From defensive standpoint, are you just trying to slap the ball out of his hand? Like how do you play defense?

Speaker 11 The defense is try to avoid that the guys who are in front of you are scoring.

Speaker 11 And the most easiest way is to shoot in alone in front of the goalkeeper so the defenders always try to be in the middle in between right but like so if you're if you have the ball yeah am i just actively trying to steal the ball or am i just trying to stay in front of you usually you try to be in front right and only you try to steal the ball if you have a chance to do it it's like in basketball you have your your your men and if you can intercept the ball then you can try to steal like so that that would be a question like what like if you put can you imagine if draymond green played handball he would just steal it from everyone.

Speaker 11 Not so easy, not so easy because you know, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I don't think so.
Can you guess we're just gonna be able to do that?

Speaker 1 We have to, you know,

Speaker 11 Jay Carlo was saying that he's ready. You know, don't you imagine? You know how difficult it is to win an Olympic gold medal? It's very difficult.
It's very difficult.

Speaker 1 Even in Hanbal. In Hanbal is difficult.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So,

Speaker 11 Nicola Carabacic, which is a French player,

Speaker 11 one of the best ever, former player of FC Barcelona. This guy

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 11 saying that if Jim Jay Caddler wants to go and wants to play against his team, and

Speaker 11 Jim Calena, the team, Caddler, and the team wants against Karabatic and his team, he, Nicola Karabacic, will give him his gold medal.

Speaker 1 So Jim

Speaker 11 doesn't need to go to the gold medal.

Speaker 1 So he can play for a gold medal? Yes. By the way, It's ready.
So we're already in the gold medal match.

Speaker 11 And Nicola Carabati is a very, you know, it's a, it's a, keep his word always. So if he's saying that he's going to be

Speaker 1 to do so, he will do it. How many games does he get to play? Just one? One.

Speaker 3 Just one game and gets a gold medal. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Now, but another another interesting story.

Speaker 1 So this, everyone in the handball community knows about this story. Yes.
This is great. Yes.
In Europe.

Speaker 1 It's a trending topic in Europe. Is it? It's a trending topic.

Speaker 3 Well, I think, just for the record, if Europe's listening to me, America has superior athletes to Europeans. That's just a fact.
We just do.

Speaker 3 Every single one of them is better than every European in every sport that any European has tried to play.

Speaker 1 Except the Hembel. No, no, all of them.
I just want this. I want to keep this trending right now.

Speaker 11 Give me facts.

Speaker 3 I want to keep this trending right now. So the entire continent of Europe, they do not measure up to our waist when it comes to any sort of athletic athletes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to call him, and I want you to tell him about the gold medal thing. Yeah, of course.
All right. He probably won't pick up.
Actually, I'm going to guarantee he won't pick up.

Speaker 11 By the way, he has been invited by Flensburg, which is the top teams in Germany, to be one week there training with them. So he wants to go to train with one of the best teams in Germany.

Speaker 1 He can go there.

Speaker 3 Everyone knows about Jay.

Speaker 1 Yes. This is crazy.
He's amazing.

Speaker 3 You know, Jay's going to call you back in like two weeks.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, no, he's not going to.

Speaker 3 Hey, I just saw Mr. Call.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's no way he's picking up.

Speaker 11 I knew. And by the way, Nicola Caravatis is a huge fan of the NFL.
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, if he would be happy to

Speaker 3 come over and try playing in the NFL, I'll give him my spot on the XFL roster.

Speaker 3 So that'll be a little my way of saying thank you for Jay.

Speaker 3 No, this is coming out in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 I've had a lot of people saying that the way that we're constructing our team, because we built our team out of former guests of this show.

Speaker 3 So I think our team is like

Speaker 3 Tim Howard at Goalkeeper. We've got Josh Allen, Blake Griffin,

Speaker 3 Danny Woodhead, Phil Hughes, a pitcher that used to throw upper 90s. Cutler.
Jay Cutler. Now we've heard from people that Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Pat Mahomes. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That just changed your opinion?

Speaker 11 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 They need a lot of time.

Speaker 1 They need

Speaker 11 more than one year to do it.

Speaker 8 The only criticism.

Speaker 6 What if it's two and five?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if it was Cutler and Mahomes and then five handball players?

Speaker 6 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Two pros, handball players, and five. Five.
So

Speaker 3 Nikolai and you. Nicola.

Speaker 1 Nicola and you.

Speaker 11 They're not playing anymore. But you in your prime.

Speaker 1 You in your prime. Sounds like a cow.
My prime. Sounds like you're a coward.
So the two of you. No, I'm not a coward.

Speaker 11 Emo is a very demanding sport.

Speaker 1 I'm not young at all.

Speaker 3 So the two of you, plus Blake Griffin, Phil Hughes,

Speaker 3 Tim Howard, Danny Woodhead.

Speaker 11 Against who?

Speaker 3 Jay Cutler. Against France.

Speaker 11 No way. France.
No, we lost.

Speaker 1 Oh, you have a little bit. We lost.
We lost for sure.

Speaker 3 You don't like admitting that you lose.

Speaker 11 I would also do that, but you know, we have no chance.

Speaker 3 I disagree. He's a team sport.

Speaker 11 He's a team sport. You know, one player is very important.

Speaker 3 So, the one criticism that we've had about our team is that we don't have any left-handed players on our team.

Speaker 1 Is that important to have a left-handed player?

Speaker 11 Well, it helps. It helps because, you know, the players who are playing on the right side of the court,

Speaker 11 it's better if they are left-handed. So, Dantre Willis.

Speaker 3 We add Dantre Willis to ourselves.

Speaker 5 Handball shape, but yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You think you think so?

Speaker 1 Are you seriously? He's thick. Do you need one fat person

Speaker 1 that played baseball since like 2009?

Speaker 3 Is it helpful to have one big guy?

Speaker 1 Yes. A guy who's like,

Speaker 1 it's very important to have a

Speaker 11 big guy with weight because there is one guy who's playing in between or in the middle of the defense. Try to

Speaker 1 block.

Speaker 1 That's like Lane Johnson. Trying to blog.
Yeah, we're both bloggers.

Speaker 8 Is there a goat?

Speaker 1 In handball? Sorry? A goat? The greatest of all time.

Speaker 11 Handball.

Speaker 11 Say it again.

Speaker 1 Is there a greatest of all time in handball? Like one player that everyone's like, that's the guy.

Speaker 11 Nowadays, I would say that Nikola Kalabatic is the guy.

Speaker 1 So this is the guy that we got to beat. He's the final boss.
Now,

Speaker 1 let's talk about what will happen if Jay Cutler and his team, our team, beats Nikola Karibachic.

Speaker 1 Would handball just not exist anymore? Like, the sport would be done.

Speaker 11 No, that will not happen. So you're talking about things that will not happen.

Speaker 1 It's like Floyd Mayweather versus Conor McGregor. If Conor McGregor beat Floyd Mayweather, boxing is done.
Yeah. So you realize that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I understand that, but I think that it's impossible that a bunch of good and amazing athletes, they cannot learn how to play in three or four months. It's impossible against a European club.

Speaker 3 What's the toughest skill to pick up?

Speaker 11 I think the technique itself,

Speaker 11 how to throw, how to jump, how to

Speaker 1 read the game. And I actually agree with you there.

Speaker 1 Like, we were talking about it, you know, we always do the thing as like, oh, if we had all of our best players play soccer, but soccer is a sport where it's not, you know,

Speaker 1 Americans are not playing soccer at a young enough age and enough people where they're learning, like, you know, the feet

Speaker 11 touches.

Speaker 4 You're right.

Speaker 1 The thing that PFT mentioned is why we think handball is a little different, is it handball has an element of pretty much every sport.

Speaker 11 Yes, you're right. And it makes sense what you are saying.
But I remember very well, you know, in Barcelona, where I was a player, we have a basketball team, one of the best in Europe.

Speaker 11 Okay, this is not NBA, but Pau Gazol was playing for us, and that has been a very good play in the NBA.

Speaker 11 I remember, not Pau, other players, you know, after our training, we are training in the same facility, okay?

Speaker 11 So after our training, they were trying to shoot, pass the ball, and they were like kids, you know, the way that they were passing, the way that they were just bouncing.

Speaker 11 You know, it's different because it's not like in basketball basketball that you can

Speaker 1 carry the ball.

Speaker 11 This is a different way of doing. So

Speaker 11 you get used to doing a movement and handball is different.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Maybe American football is quite similar, but it is not exactly the same. So when I throw

Speaker 11 the ball in American football,

Speaker 11 it's not doing this movement, you know? Spiral, yeah.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 11 Because I don't have the technique. In handball, you ought to shoot really, really hard.

Speaker 11 Jumping, because you are not standing, you have to jump a lot of times.

Speaker 11 It requires a technique, and it's something that you need to practice. And two or three months, okay, you will improve a lot.
But to compete in the high, high level is not enough.

Speaker 1 I understand the technique aspect. I mean, I don't disagree there.

Speaker 1 I just two or three months, if you gave them just like a real training, if you give James Hardy to play with the best way to do it, for steps to play with

Speaker 3 him up with some weird stuff on offer.

Speaker 1 Because I agree. Like, obviously, we're not saying that if, you know,

Speaker 11 the team is looking for players.

Speaker 1 So if somebody wants to do it,

Speaker 11 they can apply and

Speaker 11 they will be welcome there for sure.

Speaker 3 Isn't there something to say, though, like a culture that hasn't grown up in that technique, we might come at the game with a totally different perspective,

Speaker 3 come up with new techniques you haven't even thought about yet. Why would be better? Because we're smarter as Americans.

Speaker 3 Put that in the news, too. We're smarter.

Speaker 11 Maybe, but it's very difficult to compete. with such a high-level players that we have in Europe.

Speaker 1 Actually, that brings up a good question. How much is coaching

Speaker 1 important?

Speaker 11 You know, the way of playing is really important. So

Speaker 11 it's like a mix between, for me, American football is a coaching game. You know, it's very important.
Basketball is not so important.

Speaker 11 For me, handball is in between, in the middle, because you have a lot of individual players that can make actions alone. So you don't need a big, big action to score a goal.

Speaker 11 But in general, if you want to be successful, you need a good coach and a good way of playing.

Speaker 3 Do you have video games for handball over in Spain?

Speaker 11 There's one video game. That's what we need.

Speaker 3 So if we had video games growing up where our kids could grow up playing instead of playing Madden or playing FIFA, I think that that's instantly, that puts us at the top of the world ranking.

Speaker 1 Are you in the video game? Sorry, say? Are you in the video game?

Speaker 11 No, because I was a player 15 years ago.

Speaker 1 I'm too old.

Speaker 11 I'm from another generation.

Speaker 1 I'm not like you.

Speaker 1 Is there generational battles like

Speaker 1 in America?

Speaker 1 Charles Barkley gets on TV once a week and just says the NBA is soft. Yes.
Do they have that with?

Speaker 11 We still think that our handball was better than the NBA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how's the game changed? Is it more often?

Speaker 11 It's more physical and faster. Oh, yes, like the NBA, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So you're saying that the game was more physical when you played?

Speaker 1 No, nowadays it's more physical.

Speaker 3 So you think that it, but you don't think that it's good that it's more physical?

Speaker 11 I agree on that. So I think the talent, there's less talent and more physical.
Interesting.

Speaker 1 Yes. Interesting.
But

Speaker 11 probably, if we have to play nowadays, you know, we always talk about, let's try to imagine science fiction.

Speaker 11 We, 20 years ago, in our best moment, playing right now with the players that

Speaker 11 are the best ones right now,

Speaker 11 we always fight to say who is going to win. I think

Speaker 11 that we probably will lose because, in terms of physical condition, those guys are better trained than us and they are stronger than us.

Speaker 11 But you never know. It's something that will never happen.
So nobody knows.

Speaker 1 We're going to do do you a favor and we're going to cut that out of the podcast because you should never ever admit that.

Speaker 1 Like, as an old, older guy, like the old generation, they have to always say they would beat the younger generation. Always.
Yes. And then just be like, you couldn't play with us.

Speaker 11 Yes, because they cannot prove it.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. So you never have to back your way.
We're better on that. That's just a classic.
I'm a better guy. Yeah, we're better.

Speaker 3 All right, my last question.

Speaker 1 Has handball had any kind of steroid controversy? No.

Speaker 3 We don't have a real sports.

Speaker 3 So we load up real sports.

Speaker 1 We load our guys. It's not a real sport.

Speaker 1 You need to have a cheating. Any cheating? Like

Speaker 1 using something weird on the ball? Trash can. Can you gamble on it? Can you gamble on it? Can you gamble?

Speaker 11 Yes, you can gamble.

Speaker 1 You can gamble in on that, but has there been any kind of controversy? Because that's the mark of a true sport

Speaker 1 is finding a way to cheat on it.

Speaker 11 No, no, we are not so bad

Speaker 1 people, you know. Yeah, no, no, it's fair.
It's fair.

Speaker 1 It's only fair play. Americans always find a way to cheat.

Speaker 3 It's only cheating if you get caught. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're right. You're right.
Are you guys?

Speaker 11 Maybe we don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need a cheating controversy,

Speaker 1 and the gambling's good, and the video game's good. Jay Cutler playing and I'm close to saying handball is a real sport.
It's a real sport. Yeah, I mean, no, I'm close.

Speaker 1 It's always looked like when I'm playing. I would like to invite you to watch a

Speaker 1 bunch.

Speaker 11 I would like to invite you to watch a game in Europe, and you will change your mind.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that I'd be good at handball. That's not a good idea.
No, no, no, no. Just to watch it.
Just watch it.

Speaker 11 To analyze and to try to see it like.

Speaker 1 I would love to.

Speaker 11 And it's going to be a shock for you.

Speaker 1 Do they play?

Speaker 1 There's no handball in America anywhere? No, no, they are handball here.

Speaker 1 Can we do that?

Speaker 3 Can we go watch a game here?

Speaker 11 Yes, but it is not the level that we have in Europe. So what you want to see here is not exactly what

Speaker 11 we are doing in Europe.

Speaker 1 Okay. Is it like a tennis crowd or is the crowd rowdy like?

Speaker 11 Fireworks?

Speaker 11 Fireworks? Yes, we have fireworks.

Speaker 11 I love that. We have

Speaker 11 the final event of the Champions League, which is the biggest competition in Europe because we play in soccer.

Speaker 1 You know, the Champions League?

Speaker 11 We play the national competition and the European competition. The European competition is like the Champions League.
The final event is in Colon, in Germany, and it's not far away in terms of show,

Speaker 11 environment, atmosphere than an all-star game from the NBA.

Speaker 3 Do you ever play any games outside?

Speaker 11 No, it's indoor.

Speaker 1 Okay, all-star game. You can play outside, but it's an indoor game.

Speaker 3 In the all-star game.

Speaker 11 Not professionally.

Speaker 3 In the NBA all-star game, there's no defense being played, though.

Speaker 11 Well, I'm saying about the show.

Speaker 1 Oh, the spectacle around spectacular the show.

Speaker 3 A lot of prostitutes.

Speaker 11 And the concerts and the things that are going in.

Speaker 1 Fans fighting.

Speaker 11 Exactly. Well, fan fighting.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 What about goal celebrations? Do you get to take your shirt off and

Speaker 1 have to do it?

Speaker 11 People is

Speaker 11 clapping and enjoying, but you have to score and you have to go fast to defend. Right.

Speaker 3 That might be an issue for someone.

Speaker 11 People are cheering a lot and enjoying a lot watching the Hemble games.

Speaker 3 Last, last question. Is there a shot clock?

Speaker 1 Sorry? Is there a shot clock? Like, if I'm up, if we're up 10, can I just hold the ball?

Speaker 11 No, no, no, because at the beginning the referee will will say that you don't want to attack and will give the ball to the other team.

Speaker 1 You have to make a shot clock in the ref's head.

Speaker 3 You have to make a movement towards goal.

Speaker 1 Exactly. At all times.
Yes. Can never go backwards.
You can go backwards, but if it's one, two, but if it's all the way

Speaker 11 backwards, then the referee will take out the other ball.

Speaker 1 People fight with referees.

Speaker 1 Like soccer, when a team's up,

Speaker 1 no, no, you cannot do that in handball. Okay.

Speaker 3 Listen, I love watching handball in the Olympics. When it comes on, it's like a nice surprise because I don't expect it.

Speaker 3 And then I always just fall myself back into the same pattern of like, we could dominate this kick.

Speaker 3 I could compete right now.

Speaker 11 This is exactly when I'm saying that we cannot lose with a new generation. I mean, they cannot prove it.

Speaker 11 I hope you were wrong, and we can prove it.

Speaker 3 That's exactly what you're saying right now is exactly our strategy going into this whole thing is make a bold claim that will never in a million years have to back up.

Speaker 3 But we get people talking about it, and then it ends up good for us.

Speaker 1 Right. I think the handball community at large is probably mad at us, but again, we've actually probably done a lot for the handball community, not to pat ourselves on the back

Speaker 1 brought it out. But yeah, our intention is to never actually

Speaker 1 play so that we don't actually have to prove what we say.

Speaker 1 That's a mistake.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Oka, thank you so much.
I really appreciate this. I enjoy it a lot.
Yes, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 I love Barcelona, by the way.

Speaker 3 I think Barcelona is the best city on planet Earth.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Put a dot in that one.

Speaker 11 If you're comfortable, let me know it. Okay.
You can get invitations to go to the soccer games in Barcelona.

Speaker 1 Love it. Whatever you want.

Speaker 3 That's the only reason I said it was to get free stuff.

Speaker 1 You get it.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks so much.

Speaker 11 Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1 First up, we got Firefest. Hank, why don't you get us going?

Speaker 8 My Firefest is that there's a lot of like nice Valentine's Day things around the office from various sponsors that have sent stuff in.

Speaker 8 But unfortunately, my girlfriend also works at the office, so I am unable to take those things and then pass them off as my own gifts.

Speaker 1 You were going to give her the

Speaker 1 12 packs of Bud Light that came in the heart shape, and there's a bunch of flowers from

Speaker 1 there's a bunch of flowers. 100 flowers.
Yeah, 100 flowers. You can say that.
I would pay for it. I don't want to say the wrong name, but yeah, 100 flowers.

Speaker 8 But I was told that if I did that, then I would not be seeing her Friday night.

Speaker 1 You should get.

Speaker 3 I say that you

Speaker 3 should challenge her on this.

Speaker 1 You should get her on the floor. Because it's like, what am I supposed to just go out and buy other flowers from another store?

Speaker 8 Like, what's the difference between those flowers?

Speaker 1 She doesn't come in the studio often, so why don't you get her like a Mike Allstott jersey? Hmm.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 Or Cocho Candle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Coach O a little bit.

Speaker 1 Why don't you get her.

Speaker 1 Who's that helmet? That's the Rudy. Army helmet.
You can get her a Rudy helmet.

Speaker 5 Who the fuck signed that helmet?

Speaker 1 Why don't you get her a Rondane bobblehead?

Speaker 1 These things could work.

Speaker 1 I guess we'll see what happens. But yeah, it's just kind of bullshit.

Speaker 3 Just get a terrible towel for a cleanup. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 BMT's not giving up his MT 2020.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking at that. Nope, you're not taking my mad dog.

Speaker 3 No chance.

Speaker 3 Yeah, does she like fullbacks?

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 3 Okay, well, that's kind of tough. Narrows it down a little bit.

Speaker 1 All right, well, we'll figure it out. Here, there's a baseball over here.
Just give her this baseball.

Speaker 3 Does she hate Roger Caddell?

Speaker 5 Pitchers and catchers report, baby.

Speaker 1 All right, that's good Firefest.

Speaker 3 What's the worst Valentine's Day gift that you've ever given?

Speaker 1 Nothing. Forgotten? And screwed it up, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Nothing. It's pretty good.
It's a bad one.

Speaker 3 Nothing. It's definitely bad.

Speaker 6 All right, what's your Firefest PFT?

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest of the Week is all these airplane debates. Oh, yeah.
So it's back on the internet.

Speaker 3 We go through this once every six months, whether or not it's appropriate to recline your seat on an airplane. It is.

Speaker 3 Now, they give you the option to do it, but it also makes life a living hell for the person behind you if that person is above six foot two or if that person is trying to work on a laptop.

Speaker 3 So now you have this big debate on whether or not you should recline or not because what happens is you lean back and yes, the person behind you can lean back and then that keeps going until you get to the back of the plane and that person can't lean back and that person was in a viral video yesterday where he was just punching the seat of the person who leaned back in front of him.

Speaker 3 Right. And that's my firefest because this is the big game that airplane is playing on you.
Okay. All the airplane companies have us fighting ourselves.

Speaker 3 They've got us divided when it's actually their fault for making planes so small that it's an inconvenience now when somebody leans back two inches into your space. Right.

Speaker 3 We should all be collectively mad as a passenger.

Speaker 1 But it is an inconvenience when people do that.

Speaker 3 It is, but only because they made the seats so small. Right.
So we should all focus on our common enemy, which is the airplane companies.

Speaker 1 They also, like, how about they should just get...

Speaker 1 airplanes where like half of them are for people six feet and over and half for six feet and under and like some people can sit in the front, and then you're making me sit in the back of a plane.

Speaker 1 I didn't say, Are you admitting you're do I need my own water fountain? I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying, like, we should have a little bit of comfort for people who are a little bit taller.

Speaker 1 That's all.

Speaker 3 I don't have a problem with that, but that's not going to happen because the next wave of designs and planes, it's going to have us having these like little standing seats, like you get on one of those roller coasters that suspends you.

Speaker 1 Oh, it'll probably be cheap.

Speaker 3 They're taking, yeah, oh, it's going to be Spirit Airlines. Is they have the patent on that?

Speaker 1 My thing is, like, if you're if you're a big person and you, and you use the recline button, that's fine. But it's usually when it's like

Speaker 1 a child or someone who has more than enough space because they're not, you know what I mean? Like 5'2 ⁇ , and they recline the minute the fucking plane takes off.

Speaker 1 That's a killer.

Speaker 3 That's a killer. My other Fire Fest is that Oklahoma State and Nebraska announced a home and home in 2034 and 2035.
And I have plans. I have plans.
Awesome. Yes.
God damn it.

Speaker 1 I'm ready for it.

Speaker 3 Book your hotel rooms now. I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 I actually have an extra bonus fire fest for you. I don't know if you saw this PFT.
And

Speaker 1 I couldn't find the article, but I saw it. Someone tweeted me this picture.

Speaker 3 What is that?

Speaker 1 And it says, so your fire fest should be that you're not part of Texas's

Speaker 1 staff, football staff, because you kind of are.

Speaker 1 It says special teams is now called Wii Fence at UT.

Speaker 3 I like that.

Speaker 1 Can I see it? Yeah, that's bullshit. That's bullshit.
Like, that's you. That's you.

Speaker 5 Weafense Fence is.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's you. Weafense.
So your Firefest is basically Texas has found a way to hire you without hiring you.

Speaker 3 That's Matthew McConaughey here.

Speaker 1 I came up with that. I saw it.
I was like, what the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was going to say Jameis Winston didn't have laser eye surgery. He had laser Wii surgery because he's such a teammate.
Yes.

Speaker 3 But I didn't, and now I feel bad because Texas absolutely cucked me on that. Weafense.

Speaker 1 Weapons. You know what?

Speaker 3 That's...

Speaker 3 That's the position that I play in the XFLs. There you go.

Speaker 1 Weave fence. Yes, there it is.
All right, my Firefest is Bitcoin. It's up again.
And I bought it two years ago when it was at its peak, forgot that I bought it.

Speaker 1 Well, didn't forget, but I was like, oh, it's never going to be back up there because it crashed right away. Now that it's up again,

Speaker 1 back to what I bought it at, I think I want to buy more, which means it will crash again.

Speaker 1 I'm basically the biggest sucker of Bitcoin of all time. I think it's, is it like 15 or something? It's, it's.

Speaker 3 For one Bitcoin?

Speaker 1 I think the Bitcoin's back, baby. Bitcoin price.
It's back. One thing cryptocurrency is back.

Speaker 3 One thing I've learned about investing is that most people... 10,000.
Most people make their money off investing by buying something and then forgetting about it and then finding it later. Right.

Speaker 3 Whether it's like a famous baseball card that your mom kept in the shed for a while or if it's just something in your portfolio that you're like, oh shit, I bought that.

Speaker 1 Okay, look, I can see it actually on the chart right here. So in the end of 2017, I think I bought it at like $15,000 and then it went all the way down to $3,000.

Speaker 3 And that's when you sold?

Speaker 1 No, I haven't sold because I forgot. Oh, you still have it? I don't know what axe is.

Speaker 3 You still have it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, but I'm... Yours was...

Speaker 1 It's now back up that I'm like, ooh, I should probably get back in this game. So I'm really just buying high.

Speaker 3 Your Bitcoin is probably in that Magic the Gathering online exchange that lost all, like $250 million worth of Bitcoin.

Speaker 1 I just keep buying high on Bitcoin with no other strategy.

Speaker 3 Honestly, that's the funnest way to do it with something that doesn't even exist.

Speaker 1 It's like watching a game and betting the live over after three touchdowns in the first quarter.

Speaker 3 Well, if you didn't spend very much money on it, it wouldn't feel as important to you. Right.
But since you've spent a shitload of money, you're like, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1 Someday, people keep saying, I keep, the other problem is I follow a few cryptocurrency guys.

Speaker 1 And if you follow a few cryptocurrency guys, you're just convinced that the world will just one day just be one giant Bitcoin. Like nothing else exists.

Speaker 1 There's some of these people that they're like an occult when they talk about Bitcoins.

Speaker 1 All right. Next segment we have, do we care about the dunk contest? Probably not.
No. I'm actually going to go.
I'm going to Chicago this weekend.

Speaker 1 We're going to to be on radio 3-5 at Declan's in Old Town.

Speaker 5 Come out and say hello.

Speaker 1 We've got an NBA Jam tournament at Joe's on Weed on Saturday. I'm going to the dunk contest.
And even with that said, I don't care.

Speaker 3 The only way I care about it is when they show the pictures in the stands of the guys that have all the different scorecards strung together. They've got like 10 of them.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got to get a scorecard.

Speaker 3 You have to get multiple of them so that you can put up a score that's like 10, 10,000, 10,000, 10,100, et cetera, et cetera, like nine digits long.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about it. I'm going just because I want to say that I went to one, but I really don't want to go.
But I want to say that I went to one.

Speaker 1 So should I just say I went to one?

Speaker 3 No, you should go, and you should get a scorecard, and you should get an old school handy cam from like 2005 and just like pretend that you record or actually just record the entire thing on the handy cam.

Speaker 1 I'm also very woke that I think Jerry Reinsdorf is going to take a shitload of pictures of a of a full United Center and then like start using that for the rest of the season, being like, packed house tonight.

Speaker 1 Photoshop. But why does it say all-star game on the court? Packed house.
They should actually, if the Bulls are smart, they would leave the court exactly the same for the rest of the year. Yes.

Speaker 1 And then just keep using that over and over.

Speaker 3 Didn't LeBron say he was going to compete this year?

Speaker 1 No, so it's Dwight Howard, which will be fun. That will be fun.
Pat Conaton.

Speaker 1 Aaron Gordon, I think, is in it.

Speaker 3 And Derrick Jones Jr.

Speaker 1 from?

Speaker 1 From?

Speaker 1 Your Miami Heat?

Speaker 3 My Miami Heat.

Speaker 1 I thought you were asking for college. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because when Boomer does that, it's always Louisville.

Speaker 1 So Dwight will be fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Dwight's going to be a good job.

Speaker 1 Dwight will be fun. But everyone else, I don't know.
I mean, Pat Connington, everyone will get a good one. It's Aaron Gordon.
Yeah, Aaron Gordon. I'm okay, all right.
It's okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 I've talked myself into still not caring. The thing is,

Speaker 8 the dunk contest, whatever it was, two, three, four.

Speaker 1 I might be old at this point, but the Aaron Gordon, Zach Levine, one was good. That was great.

Speaker 1 Zach Levine's in the three-point contest.

Speaker 8 But people, like, it was the greatest dunk contest of all time, and people were just like, all right, that was good.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, there's just no way it's going to be that good.

Speaker 5 And even if it is, people aren't going to care, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 It actually is kind of crazy because it's also, like, indicative of the entire all-star weekend. Remember when the all-star game was fun because it felt like guys would try in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 Now, the teams are all, it's not east-west.

Speaker 1 It's all jumbled.

Speaker 8 The Lebronification of the NBA.

Speaker 5 It really is.

Speaker 3 It's actually the Giannisification because he's terrible at drafting.

Speaker 1 And the three-point contest has a four-pointer four-pointer now? It's like, what is this?

Speaker 8 The ice cubification.

Speaker 1 I feel like an old man yelling at clouds. Shit,

Speaker 3 I like that Hank. Yeah.
The O'Sheification.

Speaker 1 They're trying to keep up with the big three. They are.

Speaker 1 I mean, coincidence? Nope.

Speaker 3 Absolutely not. The LeBron O'Sheafacation in the NBA.

Speaker 1 It's not my NBA.

Speaker 3 What about, what do you think is the corniest thing that Dwight Howard's going to do to try to make one of his average stunks look cool?

Speaker 1 He definitely asked

Speaker 1 LeBron if he would be in it, and LeBron was like, nope.

Speaker 3 He might wear a LeBron jersey. He might wear a Kobe jersey.
He's going to wear a Kobe jersey. You just said it.
He's going to wear it. He just said it.

Speaker 1 He actually is going to jump over a pit of snakes. Oh, mamas? Oh,

Speaker 1 that would be cool. That would be cool.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 Dwight Howard, you won't jump over a pit of venomous snakes.

Speaker 3 He's going to end up wearing like a Harry Potter outfit.

Speaker 1 Fucking fly.

Speaker 1 Fuck. No, you know what? I'm playing.
Dwight's going to go extra.

Speaker 8 I never understood. Dwight Howard is a great interviewer.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know. No, he just said you're like kind of rough.
No, PFT is right. He's going to do something corny.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's going to do it. Hank, and I did not mind it.
I liked Dwight Howard.

Speaker 1 He's going to do something corny.

Speaker 3 I thought he was a good person.

Speaker 1 The Spider-Man, or no, was it Superman? Superman. You were doubting him, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 You would have faith. What?

Speaker 8 You thought Dwight Howard was like kind of full.

Speaker 1 He was done. Yeah.
No, he's been very good this year. Yeah, yeah.
He's been a lot better than I've been doing.

Speaker 3 Big Cat treated Dwight Howard like the XFL.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're really still hurt about your XFL, huh? It's very hurt. You're hurt.
Are they paying you on the side? Because you shouldn't be this hurt.

Speaker 3 Zero dollars.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 All the money would be going to charity, by the way.

Speaker 1 That's true. All right.
Speaking of money, the second and last segment, we got to figure out, this isn't even a segment, it's just a brainstorm.

Speaker 1 We got to figure out how to get money from Mike Bloomberg because he's giving it to everyone for his campaign. He is paying social,

Speaker 1 he's paying people on Instagram $150 to say something nice about him. He's paying fuck Jerry.

Speaker 3 He's paying staffers tons of money, giving them a shitload of like perks it is the fire fest because he's he's contracting out the fire fest people right to try to make him cool so he's doing business with fuck jerry with like a big group of meme accounts but he has not reached out to us i've made videos for bloomberg for free mini mic i want yeah mike i don't know if i'm gonna vote for you i'm definitely not but i would still like your money he yes he he uh i feel like he would respect that yes as a money person yeah like mike we will be bought like we will we will we've never done a political endorsement on this show, but we will do a political endorsement for $10 million.

Speaker 3 Yes, I will endorse the fuck out of Mike Bloom. And I actually think, in a weird way, $9,999,000.

Speaker 1 He might do it. Like, he, I was reading this thread today how basically his entire campaign is just by people.
Like, he, okay, he, he did an event where he had, like, everyone out.

Speaker 3 It was like every president's campaign until 1860.

Speaker 1 He did a grassroots campaign where he, it was grassroots, but it was just a fully catered

Speaker 5 campaign event.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it's like a rally, but he just fed everyone. Okay.
And then he gets staffers and he just gives them free MacBooks and shit. We're in on this.
Yes. So tell us.

Speaker 3 It's like if the Obama phone thing were true. Yeah, tell us how much, Mike.

Speaker 1 We will do it. Mini Mike.
We will stop saying Minnie Mike. Yeah, I'll elevate you.

Speaker 3 I'll tell you what, Mike Bloomberg.

Speaker 3 I will stand next to you at every public event that you have between now and the election, and you will look at least like you're 5'7.

Speaker 1 You got this, Mike.

Speaker 3 You got this, buddy. Just pay me.
I feel like sometimes people, very rich people, can smell the poor on me. Like, they're like,

Speaker 3 this guy grew up not rich. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to get money from Mike, but I feel like Mike is the kind of guy that typically gives money to people that have money.
You know?

Speaker 3 No, but he's not. He doesn't want to be seen giving money to people that have.
That's basically.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's getting desperate. He's just going to give money to everyone.

Speaker 3 No, our economy is based off rich people giving rich people money.

Speaker 1 I think Minnie Mike, if we just push him hard enough, maybe we need to start bashing him on social media and then, like old mafia style, like, hey, see, you're having a really hard time with your Instagram comments.

Speaker 1 You want us to protect you?

Speaker 3 We could hop in those comments.

Speaker 1 We could do the job. And then just stop.
And then just stop.

Speaker 3 Yeah, stop responding. We could go, hey, Minnie Mike.
Yeah, Minnie Mike. That might be the move.

Speaker 1 Just no, have everyone reply with little mini Coopers to every single one of his tweets until he pays us to slide.

Speaker 3 Well, also, we didn't invent that name. That's a Trump name.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I know it is. So I put it.

Speaker 3 I don't like it. It's a great nickname.
I'm just trying to think what we could do that separates us because if people start doing that, people might be like, oh, that's a Trump.

Speaker 3 Those are Trump fans that are doing it. I want all the credit for this.

Speaker 1 Little small Tyke Bloomberg. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Little Tyke. Mike the Tyke.
Mike the Tyke. Mike the Tyke.
There it is. Yeah, Mike the Tyke.
Okay, Mike the Tyke. Oh, I want to pat you on your wheel head.

Speaker 1 All right, let's finish up.

Speaker 1 We did do Guys on Chicks on Wednesday, so we figured we'd do a special Guys on Chicks for Valentine's Day. We'll finish up with that, and then we do have a show on President's Day.
Don't you worry.

Speaker 5 We'll have a show for you.

Speaker 1 I think some people are off.

Speaker 5 President's Day? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Mike Bloomberg's definitely off. Yeah, that's true.
Unless he pays us, then maybe he'll be President's Day.

Speaker 1 Then you could be, you too could get President's Day off, Mike.

Speaker 8 Starter sit, wearing a new set of seductive lingerie as a gift for your boyfriend.

Speaker 8 Is it hot to slip into something new and sexy, like you're sleeping over with a stranger, or selfish to buy something for yourself then claim it's for his benefit?

Speaker 1 Oh, he would never guys don't think like that. Yeah, he'll just be like, that's for you.

Speaker 3 He's gonna be like, I have an erection. What a great gift.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so normal.

Speaker 3 He's giving me the gift of horny. Yeah.
Lordy. So start.

Speaker 8 Speaking of boners, happy Valentine's Day boner dogs. Would you rather get a boner every time you pet a dog or have dogs get boners every time you pet them?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I think the reverse.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let the dog have their boners.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because if you don't have to be able to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 Because then you can just be like, that's nature.

Speaker 1 People will be like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 3 You got some splaining to do. Yeah.
Be a normal person. Just get a boner on the way to the airport.

Speaker 8 Sup, nip slip cat and PFT. My boyfriend has been talking weird the last few months.
Every time I bring up summertime, he's getting a beach house in Belmar and thinks about

Speaker 1 how hard he wants to be

Speaker 5 in my car.

Speaker 8 At DJ's shout out Rico Bosco. Every time I mention coming to see him, he gets all bland and making it seem like he doesn't want to date in the summer.

Speaker 1 Classic.

Speaker 8 How should I handle my boyfriend who seems to be more concerned about DJs than me? Does he just want to fuck other girls?

Speaker 1 Babe, it's not even going to be fun. We're probably just going to, like, I don't know, go to the beach and then go to sleep at like 9.

Speaker 3 Listen, here's the thing about the Jersey Shore is you fall in love with clubs. You don't fall in love with...

Speaker 1 other people.

Speaker 3 So like you walk by the Parker house and you're like, damn girl, that's a 9.5 right there. This is one of those ones

Speaker 1 where you probably just want to break up now because otherwise

Speaker 1 he's going to ignore you, get in a fight with you, or do something drastic like the first week of summer or resent you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it's not, yeah, this is probably not going to work.

Speaker 3 No one's in a relationship at the Jersey Shore or inside of a real world house.

Speaker 1 No, actually, this is what you do. This is what you really do.
You tell him, you pull the Robert Kraft. Go ahead.
See what's out there.

Speaker 1 Tell him, you know what? We'll have an open relationship this summer. And he will undoubtedly strike out the first two weeks.
And then you go down there with the lingerie.

Speaker 1 And you're like, you want this back?

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 3 Well, what you do, you just different question, but still.

Speaker 1 Yeah, same.

Speaker 3 You show up just one night wearing nothing but the lingerie at the Osprey. You fuck all his friends.
And then he sees you from across the room.

Speaker 3 And it's like Jennifer Love Hewitt in that can't hardly wait movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, no, do that, though. Do the say we'll have an open relationship, then fuck all his friends.
Hey,

Speaker 1 PMT PMT boys, especially Honk Lonkwood.

Speaker 8 I'm meeting my boyfriend's family for the first time this weekend at a hibachi place.

Speaker 5 Drinks will be flowing, shrimp will be flying.

Speaker 8 Any tips y'all can offer up on what to do or not to do to impress my future parents-in-law?

Speaker 3 Yeah, just act really surprised and impressed at everything that the chef does. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 Anyone who like applauds when they make the onion volcano, that person is a lot of fun to be around.

Speaker 1 Yes. And I would say make sure you take it easy on the Mai Ties.
Those things will sneak up on you.

Speaker 3 Oh, when you're trying to look cool and

Speaker 3 pay for the tab, watch out. The table is very, very hot.

Speaker 3 Don't put your credit card or bills on there. Yes.

Speaker 8 Hey, boys, especially very handsome Hank. I'm currently talking to two guys.
One goes to Minnesota, the other goes to Maryland. I don't go to either.

Speaker 8 I was wondering which guy I should drop and which guy I should pursue to be my boo.

Speaker 3 During basketball season, the Maryland guy, football season, the Minnesota guy.

Speaker 1 Maryland basketball.

Speaker 3 It's It's not the same.

Speaker 1 Why? Because it's not ACC. I kind of agree.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's kind of like Pitt and Syracuse being in the ACC. It will never not be weird.
Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 1 Did you see that shirt that was selling at Walmart that said Minnesota Badgers? Yeah, I love

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 3 Mr. Prostidity's Badger is a big one.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Everyone goes to college.

Speaker 3 Honestly,

Speaker 3 go with the guy from Maryland because Minnesota is just too cold. Yes.
I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with someone.

Speaker 1 But Lake House, summer.

Speaker 1 Kind of fun.

Speaker 1 Land of 10,000 lakes.

Speaker 3 Eastern Shore, summer.

Speaker 1 I don't know. The global warming.
That sure is going to be smaller and smaller.

Speaker 3 Good point.

Speaker 3 Date the guy from Maryland now and then break up with him and start dating the guy from Minnesota once the shores encroach to like Annapolis. Right.

Speaker 8 All right, last one. Sup, boys, especially Liam and the Zillian Beers dude.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 8 I was going through my boyfriend's Instagram and saw that he follows the pornhub account. Should I confront him about this or just let it go?

Speaker 3 No, let it go they just do entertaining posts it's just engaging social content what i mean come on

Speaker 1 guys watch porn girls watch porn too why do you need to follow the uh

Speaker 1 right porn hub yeah guys watch porn but why follow i'm about to follow it instagram would be a lot instagram really should come up with something where it's like hey if you're a porn star every follow is incognito we'll show how many followers you have but everyone who follows you can't be tracked it would make the world a better place honestly it would make who you follow on Instagram a better place.

Speaker 1 By the way, have you guys done like the search on Instagram? There's

Speaker 1 when it says like when you do the search, it's I love Instagram because it's a search and then it's like sports, sports, sorts, big boobs.

Speaker 1 And then you click on big boobs and you just scroll and it's just more big boobs. I have not.
They know what they're trying to do. They know.
What are you talking about? Look this, search.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's based off other things you've liked. Right.
I mean, I like sports and big boobs. Yes.
No, I. You're like LeBron James.

Speaker 1 No, I love sports and big boobs, but it's like they've really done a good job.

Speaker 1 They like give themselves away with, like, oh, this ad came up on my website. Like, what the hell? They've done a good job of this, though.
It really makes it so it's like right there.

Speaker 3 I mean, really, I'm looking at the porn hub posts. They're all just very engaging.

Speaker 1 Any stats about the Super Bowl and how many people masturbated? Those are the fakest.

Speaker 1 Ravel always is like, look at how edgy my content is.

Speaker 3 Asa Akira is on there.

Speaker 1 Former co-worker.

Speaker 3 That's probably what it was.

Speaker 1 He wanted to keep up with that porn hub.

Speaker 3 He wanted to keep up with how Asa was doing. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 It looks like she's getting naked.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 All right. That's our show.
We'll see everyone on Monday. I think we're going to run Joke Ibim Noah.

Speaker 1 Joke Im Noah?

Speaker 3 Possibly. Joe Kim Noah.

Speaker 1 Great interview.

Speaker 3 Coming Monday. Love you guys.
Happy Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 I don't know what to say or say it anyway.

Speaker 3 Today isn't my place to find you shy away.

Speaker 3 Off and come over your love of day.

Speaker 3 Suddenly needless to say,

Speaker 3 I'm all designed.

Speaker 3 But be stone a little way.

Speaker 3 Still in learning that life is okay.

Speaker 3 Say of me

Speaker 3 it's for better to be safe and sorry.