Olympic Handballer Xavier O'Callaghan, Astros Terrible Apology, And Jameis Squinston

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On today's part in my take, we get deep into the handball community. Deep, deep.
What was his name again? Oka. Oka.
Oka. His name is actually like the Saladad.
Xavier O' Xavier Ocalahan it's like the Saladad O'Brien of males like it's so ethnically diverse just in his name Xavier Ocalahan Ocalahan yeah so we have him on we talk handball it was actually supposed to be for Barstool Gold but it was so good we thought we would give it to the people uh and it was i mean i could listen to him talk forever so something a little different we have uh fire fest the astros stepped in it again a special valentine's day guys on chicks and jamis squinston before we do all of that part of my take is ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.

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You get $10 for free, $10 to ASPCA. Today is Friday, February 14th.
Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day.
I love you guys. I love all of you.
This is such a great day. Such an awesome not made up holiday that puts pressure on everyone.
Yeah. Can I give a little honest advice about Valentine's Day? Yeah.
So this is something I discovered a while ago. If you do Valentine's...
The biggest pressure that comes up in Valentine's Day is one, figuring out what gift to get to the whole... Don't come too fast.
Listen, when you've got roman swipes you basically never nut if you just won a super bowl you'll be you'll be fucking for hours uh it's it's like figuring out the whole reservation thing and i've hacked that the hack to that is you just go out for like brunch if it's on a weekend you start your day early who doesn't enjoy a good brunch all the restaurants are relatively get day drunk. Things happen.
You go places. And then maybe you go out for dinner somewhere, a little more casual.
In this situation, though, PFT, all the girls are going to be expected to have a good Friday night. You're going to tell them to wait until Saturday? That's what you tell them? So today's tough because it's on a Friday.
This is actually the perfect story. Brunch on a Friday.
Yeah, just skip work. Yeah.
I think I've told this story, but I hacked Valentine's Day back in college where before like Open Table and all those places existed, I just got a bunch of reservations. Me and my friend got a bunch and then we saved them and put on Craigslist and made money.
Oh, that's pretty sick. Yeah, it was pretty sick.
It was a slick move ahead of my time. I basically invented Open Table.
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You were the seat geek of food. You were the eat geek.
Yeah, right. So, I mean, it was pretty good.
We actually made like a couple hundred bucks. Yeah.
It was just like all the nice reservations, all the nice places in Madison. We booked them up and then put them on Craigslist.
Like, hey. I like how that's...
All caps too. Like, did you screw up Valentine's Day? We have an extra reservation.
I like how that's all caps to like did you screw up Valentine's Day we have an extra reservation I like it or an ads yeah pretty much best Valentine's Day memory is making a couple hundred bucks in college and honestly I don't blame you because if you make $200 in like a day in college you're a king a million semester that was a million dollars uh okay so Valentine's Day happy Valentine's real news that we've got to get to, the Houston Astros have finally faced the media, and I think they somehow made it significantly worse. They're all forgiven.
This was a great apology. You trot Jose Altuve out there for 30 seconds.
He kept it short, as he usually does. It was Altuve, Bregman, and then Dusty Baker that has nothing to do with it.
Dusty Baker just had to fall on the sword and everyone would be like, hey, you love Dusty Baker, don't you? His name's Dusty. I mean, Dusty should have gone out there and just been like, I'd like to apologize for all the cheating that we did.
He could take full responsibility for everything even though he wasn't there, and that would be better than what they actually did. So let's play the audio of Jim Crane, the owner of the Houston Astros.
And this was an all-time moment. You know, our opinion is, you know, that this didn't impact the game.
We had a good team. We won the World Series, and we'll leave it at that.
Jim, when talking about the Yankees there, did you say you feel like this didn't impact the game? And what do you mean by that? I didn't say it didn't impact the game. I didn't say it didn't impact the game.
So there it is. Jim Crane, like he said, in his opinion, it didn't impact the game.
Yes, they cheated. He admitted they cheated, but it didn't impact the game.
Then when asked whether it was crazy that he just said it didn't impact the game, he defiantly said, I didn't say that. I did not say that.
Even though he said it 50 seconds earlier. I think his whole point was that they might have cheated, but the cheating didn't help them win the World Series.
They were already good. They cheated for fun.
Right. Just to add a little extra spice to it.
They would have won anyway anyway it actually was eerily reminiscent to the old rick patino when he apologized but said that he was innocent so he just did a blanket apology and everyone's like well rick what are you apologizing for he's like well i didn't do anything wrong but if i did i'd like to apologize and it's this was a good time to get out there and start the apology process because it's day one of spring training, right?

All the reporters are a little off their game.

They're probably – the reporters, it's spring training for them too.

Right.

So they're not able to cover as good as they could have.

But the fact that the owner went out there and basically put his foot in his mouth

right off the bat and said, like, yeah, we cheated,

but the cheating didn't make us win the World Series.

Dude, it's not a big deal.

They just cheated.

As far as cheating apologies go, Hank, where do't make us win the World Series. Dude, it's not a big deal.
They just cheated.

As far as cheating apologies go, Hank,

where do you put this on the list of apologizing for sports teams

using cameras when they shouldn't?

Terrible.

They did as bad a job as you could have done.

It was pretty, pretty bad.

I feel like it wasn't hard what they had to do.

They basically just had to say,

we cheated and we were very wrong and we're sorry and we cheated and it probably helped us greatly what does every apology need um tears yeah that's good okay i'll add that to the list so tears and a direct audience someone that you're apologizing to i did not know who they were they just kind of went out there and did a shotgun approach and just spat it out into the universe. They might have been apologizing to their parents for all I know.
They might have been apologizing to somebody on the other side of the planet. They should have apologized directly, one, to youngsters.
I heard no apologies to the youngsters. Number two, to journalists.
It would have been great if he came out with the Little League patch on his arm, Being you know the one that's like play hard like respect your opponent always do your best or something like that be like hey listen guys see this remember remember the kids out there yeah verbal meme what should have happened is altuve is the guy that's grabbing dusty baker's kid from in front of home plate and then the person coming down third baseline is the Astros cheating scandal. Right.
They should have apologized to youngsters from coast to coast and apologized to the journalists that have been covering this game. Well, I actually disagree with you because the first two, that's fine, but the real apology, the only way that they were going to be able to move on from this is they had to apologize to each and every Yankee fan on Twitter because those guys are never going to stop.
Ever, ever, ever. So they should have just pulled out a scroll and just started reading every single name.
Joey from Staten Island, I'm sorry. Sal from the Bronx, Sal, I'm sorry.
And just gone down the list and said sorry to every Yankee fan and then maybe at the end from Arlington. Yeah.
I'm sorry. Maybe the banner in Houston has to have pinstripes.
Oh, wow. That's what they do.
That's not bad. That's not a bad idea.
I also think that the Dodgers—I take my hat off to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Not because of this scandal, but because they helped the Nationals win the World Series this year because they told them, hey, just so you know, they're going to cheat like motherfuckers.
They cheat all the time. And so the Nats should get two Worlds.
I actually think the Nats should get the Astros 2017 World Series. Because they beat the team that was cheating.
What? Who? The Astros were still cheating. Right, but they beat...
Wait, so why would the Nats get that? Because it's cooler if the Nats win two World Series in one year. But where's the leap to 2017? Because I'm a Washington Nationals fan, and I want the Nationals to have more World Series titles.
Wait, but you mean 2019 they get two World Series, or 2017 they also get a World Series? They acquire the Astros cheating World Series. Got it.
Because they beat them while they were all... The only team that has ever beaten the cheating Astros in a world series is the washington nationals got it i thought i thought there was actually like an actual line you know there's no real reason hey this is how we should get them no there's no rhyme or reason to it i just want more credit on my team got it okay that's fair that's fair to say uh so yeah the astros this isn't going away by the way i mean rob manfred where the hell are you dude like you you threw out the play rules, got everyone talking about that, which you should have done, by the way, the day after the Astros apologized.
But Rob Manfred, I think he just is, like, hiding under his desk. Every morning he comes in and his secretary hands him a piece of paper and is like, the top of the list is, like, deal with the Astros cheating scandal.
And he just stares at it and, like like doodles on the paper and doesn't do anything. Well, let me ask you this.
Do you know what Rob Manfred looks like? Could you describe him? Yeah, I can. Oh, because I can't.
I don't know what he looks like at all. Yeah.
In my in my mind's eye, he's got like a slightly like a pale red curly afro type thing. No, no.
Yeah. He's like a weathered.
He's like a weathered financial advisor. So Bud Selig.
Kind of. A younger Bud Selig.
A spry Bud Selig. A younger Bud Selig.
But yeah, so the Astros, this is going to go on all year. Wait, he's a white guy? He's an old white guy? Yeah, they're going to get thrown at all the time, which is going to be awesome.
They will break the record for players that throw at them. And that's really what comes down to is like i know why they did why the commissioner released the whole findings and was like well it's just aj hinch and you know behind the scenes guys and we'll fire them and we'll move on but it's the players this was a players cheating scandal so if you're a player and you're sitting there like what the fuck like punish the players so i don't and and bregman who's been on this show and i think he's a friend of uh some people at barstool but if you're if you're like bregman and you are talkative and cocky which i love it's good for baseball you can't then just clam up when you get caught cheating like you got to actually face the music here in fact i'd like to kickve out of the short guys club.
There you go. See you.
Gone. See you, pal.
You know what? You're six foot one to me. Get out of my face.
Oh, nice. I've been elected to be the president of that club.
Checkmate. I'm like Mike Bloomberg.
I can say that I'm anywhere between five foot seven and six foot one. Any PFT.
Five foot four. On any given day.
Listen, I think that this just reinforces the idea that every single organization should have a vice president of apologies. Yeah.
Apologizing is not hard, but there should be one person that specializes in it and that's able to dictate things. And that person needs to be hired by the Houston Astros and probably Ohio State football, too too because they stepped in it again that was more than stepping bring bring urban meyer back to clean up the mess that is ohio state football they the pr people whoever's the pr person in houston how they still have a job is insane i don't think they've done every single thing wrong and that's even going back before the cheating scandal with the guy that they fired during the World Series, too.
Yeah. Like, everything they do wrong.
Including not winning World Series. Crazy.
So, yeah, that's the Astros. It's going to continue.
Relegate them to the MLS. It's going to keep going.
And then Jim Crane at the end was like, yeah, we're looking forward to a really good season. And that's that.
Yep. Their entire strategy was, let's bring it up day one so we never have to address it again.
Yeah. right so you can watch us barstoolgold.com slash pmt the other news standing on a cornea james quinson tampa florida such a fine sight to finally see it's a laser my lord my eyes are feeling sore and my vision's now 2020.

Come on, Brucie.

My eyes are Gucci.

The only thing I'm turning over is a new leaf.

And that's the big news.

Jameis Squinston, he's got LASIK surgery and he can finally see.

I hope you's still squints though I dude okay so this was a rumor that was out there for at least a week and he took a picture with the goggles so everyone thought it might have happened it was confirmed today the thing I just don't understand is if you're jamis winston's teammate or coach or anyone in his life and he's like you know what i actually need lasik surgery aren't you like what the fuck have you been doing dude like you've just been missing linebackers because you cannot see yeah this jamis winston i know we joke about being a future Hall of Famer, but just think about this. The guy threw for 30-30 and 5,000 yards, and he's blind, or was blind.
I think that this is actually the perfect time to get LASIK surgery because it's in that decision year. Yeah.
So they have to make a choice. Are they going to franchise tag him or let him go? This is all the leverage thatis had building up his back pocket what i don't want to happen for purely selfish reasons i don't want jamis to become a boring quarterback now i don't want him to go like he's not going to be for 20 and 13 no his physical comedy will never stop he didn't have hand enlarging surgery yeah but still like i i'm a little bit upset about this.
I love Jameis for the interception.

Could you imagine if next year he goes like 50-5 and is the MVP and takes the Bucs in a deep playoff run

and everyone just sitting there saying,

you can see now.

You can actually play the position because you can see.

This is the most Jameis Winston story ever. Why wasn't he wearing contacts? Why wasn't he wearing goggles? I mean, we could also stay woke on this and just maybe he didn't actually have the surgery.
Oh, no, he didn't. I know that the reports were out there yesterday.
I saw all those. But maybe, just maybe, this is a blueprint for other quarterbacks that have a bad year.
Like Mitch Trubisky, he takes a picture with giant glasses on. You don't even have to get the surgery.
Just tell people that you did. Man, I love it.
You know what I really want to see? I want to see Jameis when he steps onto the field for the first time with his perfect eyesight. It's going to be like those videos that you see of the kids that can't hear.
They get the implant in their head, and they listen to classical music for the first time, and they start to cry. Like Jameis, under center, when he identifies his own blitz for the first time ever, and he just weeps because it's so beautiful.
I actually think that's going to happen. I think they're going to go to OTAs, and he's going to stop and be like, timeout, timeout.
So that's where the linebackers always are? There's somebody in between the defensive line and the safeties. Holy shit guys been there the whole time he's gonna be like i feel like i'm hallucinating on acid you guys always told me that there were 11 guys on defense but i always assumed there was eight yeah what the fuck that's tough now is jamis going to be able to use this to blame everything else that he's done wrong in his life oh yeah like uh oh yeah i thought that the crab legs were free i thought it said take one yeah the uber driver that one's gonna be tough uh i thought i was ordering a prostitute on my phone i thought it was boober yeah i accidentally hit the u i thought no one was in the cafeteria when i stood up on the table and said fuck her right in the pussy uh-huh yeah yeah i thought the lift driver's vagina was a bottle of hand sanitizer yeah that's jamis winston he can finally see this is god damn This is, goddammit, he is the best.
And you know what? He's only 26. It's great.
We're going to have Jameis for him. He is the future.
We've talked about it. We lost Eli.
We're losing Phil Rivers. Who knows where Big Ben is, although he was at the West Virginia game looking like a mountaineer.
But that was such a funny picture. Who's the mountaineer? It was a Spider-Man.
Yeah, what here You're not even trying The funny part was they sat down Ben sat down near the Mountaineer Not for the purpose of attracting his attention He just they looked at each other And they actually did the spider They're like I'm going to point at you Can I put on your hat And it was great because like When Ben was wearing the Mountaineer hat I actually didn't recognize the Rathasberg. I didn't either.
When you quote tweeted it, I was like, oh, BFT's watching some college basketball. I was like, wait, no, that's Ben Rottisberg.
No, I'm definitely not watching college basketball. I was reading my book and falling asleep.
But so Jameis Winston is the future. He is the future of comedy in the NFL.
And I'm so happy that he got LASIK so that we can make more jokes about it now and hopefully he's amazing like if he is an M if he is the MVP next year it will be the greatest story in sports now a guy who couldn't see is this going to be like Jonah Hill though or other comedians when they lose a little bit of weight no it's funny no because you're forgetting even Jameis Winston like if he can see the linebackers that will obviously decrease his interceptions. But he's still Jameis Winston.
He still thinks that he can make every throw. He's still, when he gets sacked or gets under pressure, he starts flopping around everywhere.
There will still be funny. He's still going to eat a W.
He might even eat more Ws now. Well, what also might happen is he might feel so confident now that he's got great eyesight that he takes more chances.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
I would be pissed off, though, if I was one of his receivers or running backs, and it kind of hurts your contract because you're not a two-way player anymore. You're not making tackles.
Your stats are going to go down. But either way, that was the biggest story.
I mean, next stop, Canton. James Winston on his way to Canton.
The other the other thing also one other thing i noticed with this picture of the glasses these post-surgery lasik glasses have gotten a lot cooler in just the last 20 years oh yeah they used to be like the old people huge wraparound boxy ones used to give off uh like a florida casino slot machine vibe yeah now it's oh maybe you know like a a cool club in New York City where you're listening to EDM. Do they still listen to EDM? They listen to EDM.
EDM feels like it's gone out, though. No? Okay, cool.
EDM's still here. Cool.
Good. As long as there are drugs, there will be EDM fans.
That's true. They are one and the same in terms of the market of that music.
It's like what acid was for the Grateful Dead. You know what I heard? Jeff Schwartz, huge EDM fan.
Really? Massive, massive. Geoff? Geoff Schwartz, when he's not defending his brother on Twitter.
Or talking about technique of offensive linemen, high school offensive linemen. Getting mad about people praising the wrong attributes.
That was a crazy video that went viral. There was this video.
Probably not everyone lives online like we do. It was Tom Cruise's ass.
It was an offensive line prospect who was like, this is why he's one of the top prospects in the entire high school in America. And it shows him going one-on-one with a kid who beats him to the outside, then cuts on the inside, and the offensive lineman just completely holds him and then throws him into the invisible quarterback.
Yeah, sack the quarterback. It was the worst technique ever, and everyone was like, look at this guy.
So all the offensive linemen came to the rescue and was like, this is actually terrible, don't teach this. Actually bad.
Jeff Schwartz is leading that. Can you imagine Jeff Schwartz at a Diplo concert, front row, probably wearing like a wife beater, the smallest oval sunglasses that you've ever seen in your life.
Dude, could you imagine Jeff Schwartz if he was in a, this is way too much Geoff Schwartz talk, shout out Jeff, if he was in a mosh pit, like an offensive lineman's technique in a mosh pit, just pancaking people left and right. Throwing people around, just doing the whirlwind, the windmill.
Yeah. All right.
Before we get to our interview with handball pro, Xavier O'Callaghan, PFT, did you want to give me a quick preview for the XFL this weekend? Yeah, I can give you a preview for the XFL. The buzz feels a little like it's come off a little.
No. Absolutely.
It's rivalry week. Okay.
How dare you say that during rivalry week? I uh i did this week we've got the matchup of the vile guardians from new york against my dc defenders uh dc defenders favored by five and a half points uh they would be defend they would be favored by six if they had a kicker that could make a 35 yard field goal but they knocked the half point off they took that into consideration i think i'm going to at the game. I'm addicted to the game day experience at Audi Field.
In fact, the game day experience was so good last week that many are saying that Dan Snyder is looking to sell the Redskins because he knows that he cannot compete against that type of environment. So that team might be on the sale block soon.
Then we got Tampa Bay Vipers at the Dragons. Vipers, your boy, Mark Trestman, you took the over for their win total.
They got smoked last week by the Guardians. Yeah.
They're favored by two and a half at Jim Zorn's Dragons. Okay, I'll take the Dragons, I guess.
Okay, it's a long flight for Trestman. And then the Roughnecks, I'll take them too.
Dallas Renegades at the Wildcats. Renegades favored by Fournette.
Taking the Renegades. Broken Roback just got signed to the team.
Great. So that's your XFL buzz.
And then you're taking the Roughnecks. Yeah, and then I'm taking the Roughnecks.
Minus eight against the Battle Hawks. Sure.
Listen, spreads don't matter in this league. I just pick winners.
You taking the over in every game? Nope. Under in every game.
I'm taking the over in every game. Okay.

It's going to correct.

It's going to correct. They're going to all of a sudden get good at

football. You're going to go back to the mean.
That was

Grumpy Cat poo-pooing the XFL.

I'm not poo-pooing it. I'm going to watch it a little.

I'm going to watch it a little. A little poo-poo.

I started out for like half that conversation. Yeah, I did too.

I started zoning out the minute the teams were being

named. I will try to keep watching it.

It's football. It's not.
It is, but it isn't. It's football being named.
I will try to keep watching it. It's football.

It's not.

It is, but it isn't.

It's football.

Okay.

I will try to watch it.

So I watched it last week.

There's no double passes or three-point attempts this week.

I might be out.

Right.

Like, you can't have all these new rules and then not have anything actually be done. Like, you're just playing conservative football with worse players.

So let's do it.

This is our way to tell XFL, get your shit in gear and get going and fix this shit. Double passes.
Yeah. Do everything.
Make it fun. Let's have fun.
Is that wrong? To kick. Is that wrong? I mean, sign personalities.
Yeah. Sign a personality to kick.
Are you going to be on a team or no? I think so. What's great about the XFL is to their credit, maybe this is like Stockholm Syndrome since they've taken me hostage.
Yeah, no, they totally have taken you. The smartest thing they ever did was basically dangle this in front of you so that they can have you be like this is awesome.
But here's the thing. I almost respect the fact that they didn't put me on the

week one roster that i was not signed to a car because you only have 52 guys they have like

actual game day rosters right they are more concerned about winning yeah then they don't

want to give me a spot they don't want to give me a spot that i haven't earned and while you

could make the argument that maybe i did so i did earn it wait so but then when they sign you

it's because the rosters will expand oh they do? They're going to expand a little bit. When? I forget the exact week.
What does a little bit mean? I think by like three or four feet. Okay, nice.
I didn't know that. Yeah.
So I'm just saying I was a bubble guy. Like September call-ups.
I was a bubble guy. I got cut.
That's what happens to bubble guys. It's on me to change the math.
Yeah. Except that per call, that counts as being in Major League Baseball.
If they bring me in for a playoff run, I'll accept that. Go in playoffs now.
There we go. Get in there.
Maybe you make a playoff kick. Well, now it's in my head that maybe I'll make the game-winning championship kick.
That'd be something. That'd be something, wouldn't it? They really got you.
Maybe. Hook, line, and sinker.
Or maybe I just... Oliver Luck is a marketing genius.
Let's make this guy think he's going to be on a team, and then he will be saying how awesome the league is for the whole year. Oliver Luck is a marketing genius.
He saw me on the sideline before the DC game last week, and he made a beeline over to me. Yeah, dude.
We're at the number podcast we're talking about his league he's a great to see you buddy great to see you know we're really hoping that we can get you out there for and i was like yes sir over he's like and then after he stopped talking to you or at the end of the conversation was he like and you're gonna make sure you mention the league right on pmt right you're gonna talk about it right he's like that asshole big cat doesn't like our league you. You make sure to tuck him into shape.
I agree with Hank. I need more excitement.
We're at the exact same spot we were with AF last year. These next two weeks are going to be make or break XFL weeks for me, where if they can get me to watch and be like, holy shit, that was fun, I'll be in.
I'm also thinking that there's an outside chance that with what i've put on film already and what i will continue to put on film maybe i get a call for a training camp for an nfl team maybe i'm a camp leg okay there you go yeah they need camp legs they do did you see how bad the kicking was last year you need camp i'm not worse than vinatieri nope that's true no that is true yeah it is true i'm a better kick for six. I'm 35.
I'm a better kicker than the greatest kicker of all time. All right, let's get to our interview with Xavier O'Callaghan, handball pro.
Awesome interview. We were actually going to do it for gold, but it was so good, we're going to put it into a regular PMT.
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Okay, we now welcome on handball pro, Xavier O'Callaghan. Did I pronounce all that right? Very good.
What's your nickname? Oka. Oka.
From O'Callaghan, Oka. I knew you had a good nickname.
So he's here to talk to us about handball. He is a former handball pro, played in the Olympics.
Yeah, twice. Scored a couple goals in the Olympics.
More than a couple of goals. More than a couple of goals.
A little cocky. I like it.
Did you win a gold? No, it was a bronze medalist. Okay.
Was that in Sydney? Sydney 2000. Okay.
Very good. Okay.
So we brought you in because we've had a debate that started very organically. I don't know if you've seen it.
Yes, I was aware of that. I'm sure you have because the handball community is very angry at us.
That's why. Jay Cutler, former Chicago Bears quarterback, said that he thinks he could get gold medal in handball if he got a bunch of pro athletes from all American sports, and they just trained for a couple months and jumped into it.
Now, before we get to that debate, can we at least just go through step-by-step handball, how it's played, the rules? How many people are on the court? There are two teams of seven players, one goalie and six players. Okay.
Okay. And roster usually has 16 players.
Okay. So it's very dynamic.
You don't need to stop the game to make changes. So you are playing and you are leaving and coming in and coming out.
Like in hockey, they're rolling subs. Yes, exactly.
Okay. Is it that quick? It's very quick.
Is it more like basketball where they call a timeout and they do a sub? No, no, no. It's very quick.
It's like hockey. In the middle of the action? You don't need to stop.
You can play, and you can leave the call whenever you want for a replacement. Okay.
Now, how fast do the shots come? If you have the top players in the world. In miles, I think it would be more than 80 miles per hour.
80. 80, okay.
More than. Okay, more than.
You know, the big shooters, they can do it faster. Yeah, what about kilograms? Yeah.
I mean, kilometers. Kilometers is more than 100.
Okay. That sounds so much faster.
Yeah, that's really fast. It's fast, you know.
It's fast. Okay, so...
Seven on seven at any time. How many officials are on the court? Two.
Now, is there punching a lot? Is it like hockey where you can get into a fight? It's quite physical, yes. I would say that.
Okay. You know, physically, a company is really important, and it's something that is very common, and that they are out of contact you know and and it's it's a rough it's tough yes okay so what um what would you say like the attributes of a professional handball player are like if you told me if you asked me you know what about a basketball player i'd be like well you really have to be at at like, shortest, like, 6'1".
You know, 6'1 and taller, and the taller the better. Or, like, if it's football, obviously the stronger the better.
What is a, like, perfect handball player? In handball, it's a combination of things. Of course, the total is the better, but you can be less than 6 and be able to play.
How much less than 6? You can be 5-something, and you can play on the wing. Because, you know, it's like a soccer team, you know? The midfielder is very different from the wing in soccer because, you know, you have to be fast and technique, and maybe in the middle field you have to be stronger.
So in handball there are different positions and different body types adapt to this position. But in general, if you are tall and you are strong, it's very, very important.
So you've got your Cristiano Ronaldo's in the middle, and then you've got your Messi's out to the side. Exactly, exactly.
What about strength? What about speed? Because it's not a very big—what's the court? It's in meters. It's 40 meters length and 20 wide.
It'll be bigger than a basketball court. Okay, so speed matters, but it's not like...
You know, fast break is really important, and you have to run a lot. It's bigger than a basketball court? Yes, yes, bigger.
Bigger and wider, both. Okay, so when you have the ball in hand, do you have to dribble? Do you have to punch it to yourself? How does that work? It's like in basketball.
You can vote, and if you're bouncing, how do you say it? Bouncing? Yeah. You can run with the ball, but bouncing.
When you take the ball in your hands, only you can do three steps. Not two like in basketball.
Well, basketball is more like three or four. Well, in the NBA, yes.
In Europe, no. You don't even know I'm traveling in the NBA.
Yeah, you have different rules. So you have to bounce it every three or four steps.
I read that you have to make an attempt to try to go towards the net, a scoring attempt. Otherwise, the ref calls you for a delay of game, right? Yeah.
So you have to at least make – you have to act like you're trying to score. You can't just hold on to the ball and run out the clock.
You are right, exactly. This is a very subjective part because the referee has the influence making that decision.
If you are not willing to score a goal, you are winning and you want to keep the ball and you are not attacking. That is a very important part because we need to be sure that we are trying always to score goals.
Now, if you're a defensive player, are you allowed to go past half court? Yes, of course. Okay, so everyone can go everywhere.
Yes. All right, so it's not okay.
All right, and then there's a crease that you can't go into, though, right? And how big is that crease? Six meters. And I've seen some of the clips.
Like, you can, as long as you leave your feet before, can you land in the crease? But you have to shoot before you land. Got it.
So you have to do it in the air. Okay, but if you've got a long jumper on your team, you could jump from the edge of the line into the goal and just let go right at the goal line.
Can you make contact with the goalie? No, no, you can't. Okay.
What if the goalie makes contact with you, though? What if it's his fault? It depends on what the situation it is, but the interpretation of the referee can be different. Sometimes it's because if you are trying to, it's not happening because we are professionals.

So you have control of your body

and usually there are no contact.

But sometimes it could happen.

But there is never, I never remember bad intention.

Think people trying to do something like this.

Right.

But if you are a goalie

and you are watching a guy with 220 pounds

coming along in front of you shooting, you have to be a little bit crazy to be there. That's true.
That's true. So on defense, are you allowed to tackle? Yes, of course.
So you can tackle like fully on, wrap them up, take them to the ground? Not from – you have to do it in front of the guy. So you have to tackle him.
You cannot do it from behind. So it's very important.
And there is like in hockey, a penalty. If you are too rough, the referee can say you are two minutes out and you have to play two minutes with one player less.
Okay, now what does too rough mean? Mean of... If Big Cat was coming, I mean, I could push him like that, right? But I can't grab him.
Exactly. You can hold it.
You can hold. Not holding this way.
You have to hold it in front. So you have to make control of the arm and the hip.
But you can notice hold the guy and try to, you know, like wrestling. Try to kill him, you know.
So how long are the games? Two pass of half an hour. Half an hour? So it's one hour.
That's a lot of gameplay. What about, like, what's an average for the pro level or Olympic level? What's an average score? Usually more than 30 goals per team.
It's a very American sport. You will love it.
It's fast-paced, physical. You score a lot of goals.
It's the perfect American sport, I would say. Okay.
But you don't know. But you don, yes.
Yeah, yeah. All right.
So this is an important question that I think gets to the debate more than anything. At what age did you start playing handball? I started when I was six.
Okay. And now you're from Spain, right? I'm from Barcelona, yes.
Okay. So how many kids play handball at the age of six? In Spain? At the age of six, I don't know.
But official licenses, around 100,000. Okay.
So in America, everyone plays Little League baseball. You know what I mean? Even if you're not good at baseball, you play T-ball and all that stuff.
Would you say it's similar in Spain? Everybody plays handball because it's part of the physical education at the schools. So it's one of the things that you do.
Then you can decide, you can make a decision if you want to play handball or basketball or volleyball or soccer. Usually everybody wants to play soccer.
Right. But there are a lot of players in different sports and handball is quite popular in Europe.
Okay, so at that age, let's say the age of 15, 16 years old, when kids start to pick the sports that they really want to focus on the most, do you find that the more athletic kids tend to play soccer? No, the more athletic kids try to play handball or basketball, the most talented players with the ball, with the feet, they use to choose soccer. And it sounds like the most talented, tall people in Spain play basketball first, handball second.
Would it be basketball first, though? Yes. In Europe, you know, in Spain for sure, basketball is bigger.
But if you go to Germany, you go to Denmark, Sweden, Hungary, France, handball is the second biggest sport. Interesting.
So who is the best country at handball? Well, there are a lot of them. But who's the powerhouse? Nowadays, Spain was the last European champion with the national teams.
Germany has the strongest league. France, they have a very good league as well.
And they're out of professional players. It's a professional sport.
In the professional leagues in Germany, what is the average salary? I think the average is around $150,000. It idea.
I would say it's not an average, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. People making half a million probably, yes.
Right. Okay.
Would you say that it's a disadvantage to Barcelona because it's such a great city and it's right on the beach that people would rather go out and just drink beers in the sand as opposed to practice sports? You know, we love sports. You love the American, you love the sport, but in Barcelona you have time for everything, to go to the beach, to enjoy with your people, and to play sports.
Are you more of a Picasso guy or a Gaudi guy? I am a Gaudi guy. I love the attitude that Gaudi.
Okay, so how long have you lived in America? One year and a half. Alright, and have you watched American sports? Yes, I love all of them.
I Okay. I love basketball.
Okay. And baseball is a little bit more complicated for me.
Are you big? I would imagine, like, who do you like more? Power or Mark? Power. Okay.
I know him. Oh, you do? Yeah, of course.
Personally? Yeah. He's a very interesting guy.
I have a very nice story with him. Okay, go on.
Because when I was very young, I think that I have the confidence to say that. I was training at the gym alone, summertime, you know, you need to work out in order to be in shape.
And I was alone, working, you know, suffering, because I wasn't very tough. So I wasn't very strong, so I was lifting weights.
I don't like it, but it was very, very complicated for me. And there was the physical coach of the basketball team.
He came with two very young guys. One was Pau Gasol, and the other one, you don't know it probably, but it was the best ever player in Barcelona, Juan Carlos Navarro.
So both of them were there. Can you say his name again? Juan Carlos Navarro.
That's great. He was playing one year in NBA in Memphis.
Juan Carlos Navarro? Navarro, yes. He's the best player ever in Europe, probably.
And Pau was playing with him in the junior team, in the second team in Barcelona. So they were there with the physical coach of the first team, and they had to do some workouts.
And that guy, the physical coach, left. And, you know, this is the list, the things that you have to do.
I'm leaving.

I will be back. Both of them, they were

chatting, talking all the

time, and doing nothing.

You know, they

took some water. They were just

showing them.

And when the guy came,

they would say, no, we have been working a lot because, you know,

we are sweating a lot. And I thought to

myself, none of those guys will be professional ever because they have they don't have the nice work for sure they change it no but i always remember that i was doing a bad uh a bad uh impression of the guys because they were not hard workers at that time but they have been very good players very authentic players but nowadays i cannot I cannot compete with them with my success as a sports guy. But at that time, I thought none of them will be a professional player.
Did you ever tell Powell that story since you've seen him? I don't think so. Okay, you got to tell him.
That's a fantastic story. Yeah.
I mean, I would probably do the same if my coach walked away. All right.
So you know, you obviously, so that helps because you obviously know high-level basketball. You watch football.
You know all this. So when Jay Cutler says something like this, do you think it's completely insane or maybe a little bit of truth knowing that some of these guys that are playing high-level football have all the skills that would work in handball.
They just haven't played handball. What he's saying is insane.
What? It's insane. Come on.
He cannot win Olympic medal training two or three months. Okay.
Let me present an analogy. An analogy.
All right. Okay.
It's hard to imagine that you want to cook something. You want to cook.
Okay. You need ingredients.
you need food you the americans you have the perfect food for being a professional athlete and to compete in a high high level okay but when you want to cook that food you need the technique you need how to mix it how to cook it at the temperature you need to know things this is something that jake adler or any player doesn't have right now. So you have the potential to be an amazing athlete and to play in high level, but it takes time to be able to be a professional, a very good handball player.
So what I'm meaning is in the short term, it's impossible. Insane.

In the long term, it takes years for sure.

But Jay Cutler could, if he were to train,

like if there was a different world and Jay Cutler was born,

same exact guy in Barcelona, he could be a professional handballer.

Of course.

And probably one of the best.

Okay.

But he needs to train. He needs to understand the game.
He needs to train every day. So it's a matter of technique.
It's not just the physical condition. It's the technique and the tactic.
You need to read the game to know when you have to move, when to pass the ball, when you have to shoot. So those kinds of things, you need to learn them.
And it's not a matter of one or two or three months. Now let's flip it.
Do you think the best handball player in Spain, if he was born in, you know, Tampa, Florida, and grew up playing American football, do you think he could be an NFL quarterback? I think it's exactly the same explanation. So if you want to do it in three months, forget it.
In one year, forget it. If this guy is educated and coach since he's young, for sure.
Because, you know, in handball you have players who are 6.4, 220. And they know how to throw the ball, so they know how to read the ball.
The interesting thing, though, is I think that handball is kind of a perfect mix of a lot of different sports that we already grow up playing in America. So it's a combination.
So it's not like we don't have any of the techniques. Whereas football, American football, if you grow up in Barcelona, you probably don't play American football unless your family is from America or you have some connection to the sport.
Maybe you really like Madden. I don't know.
But you usually probably don't play American football, and it's very much different from any other sport that's played in Europe.

But with handball, it seems like the learning curve would be a little shorter.

I mean, we can even build the team out from the back.

If you start at goalkeeper, for example, if we had Tim Howard playing goalkeeper on our team,

I feel like he could become a world-class handball goalkeeper within a year because he's got all the technique right there, right? I don't think so. It's a smaller goal.
He's played high-level soccer, football for a long time. Have you seen a goalkeeper in handball? I have.
You know what? I have watched goalkeepers in handball. They're bad.
They're all bad. From Europe or from the U.S.? No, in all the videos that I've watched, they're all bad, and then a goal gets in, and they just don't care.
Yeah. It's like, oh, I get scored on.
I don't agree on that. They all say, like, oh, I get scored on 30 times a match.
It doesn't matter if that one went in. Goal is a very important player in handball.
Oh, yeah. Very important player.
And they are good, very good players in Europe. So, you know, I think that one year is not enough.

You know, the Olympic, the Hanbo Olympic team,

they want to build something for the Olympics in Los Angeles.

They need to start right now.

They want to do something.

They want to compete in the level to fight for the medals,

not to be there.

To fight for the medals, you have to start right now with the people.

Be careful with what you're saying right now because what you might be doing,

you might be awakening a sleeping giant. I would love to do that.
Because we automatically qualify for Los Angeles. We're going to be in the Olympics in Los Angeles.
There are probably millions of 8- to 10-year-old kids out there that are listening to you right now saying, you know what, I'm going to prove that Spaniard wrong. I'm going to hit the gym tomorrow and we're going to dominate.
That's right. Oka doesn't know what he's talking about.
I would love to be wrong. But I'm not wrong.
No, you're wrong. What do you say, Hank? Alright, so it's seven players on the court, right? Yeah.
What if you have four experienced handball players and then you get three stud athletes and you train for a year? That's a good question. I like it.
I like it. You have more chances.

And you have a leader that can explain.

Yeah, yeah, you need time.

Then things are closer.

That's true.

Is there a one position that's basically like the sniper?

Like the guy who basically has the best arm

and you're setting him up to score?

Yes.

Usually the players who are playing on the back.

So there are three in the back and three ahead of them.

Those three back, they are the key players, you know,

because they have the power to shoot from outside.

They are the strongest ones.

So those are the really important players.

Then you have the wings.

They used to end the plays, you know.

It's like if you are able to send the ball

to the wing and he has enough space,

he can jump and try to score,

but he's not creating the game, you know?

So, that seems like

the back players, like, if we put

a quarterback in there, that's everything they

do. They throw it for distance, they throw

it to other people. Yeah.

Stay in the pocket. Yeah, like, how far

the best handball player, how far do you think you could throw a handball? Or how far do you think you could throw a football? I think it was 70 yards. Oh, okay.
Well, we got a guy who can throw 85 yards. Yeah, but I don't know in handball because the field is shorter, so I don't know how long he can shoot.
But we got a guy, like I said, I mean, Josh Allen would dominate. Yeah.
I think he's got the strongest arm. What about pitchers who throw like 100 miles an hour? Yeah.
How do you practice arm angles? Like how many different arm angles are there? Well, there are a lot of different techniques to shoot. It's a little bit like in baseball, you know? Not all the balls are exactly the same.
You can fastballs, curveballs. But there's like three or four angles, basically.
But in handball, it seems like they're coming at it from every type of angle. You can shoot stride.
You can shoot, we call it rectificado, means just trying to avoid it. Say that word again.
Rectificado. I like that.
Goofy style. You have a guy in front of you, and you have to try to avoid him, and you are just throwing that way.
Right. Another way is you can throw below the legs of the defender or from the other in a hip level, you know? So there are a lot of different techniques, and not everybody knows how to use all the techniques.
So it's complicated. From a defensive standpoint, are you just trying to slap the ball out of his hand? How do you play defense? The defense is trying to avoid that the guys who are in front of you are scoring.
And the most easiest way is to shoot alone in front of the goalkeeper. So the defenders always try to be in the middle, in between.
Right, but like, so if you have the ball, am I just actively trying to steal the ball or am I just trying to stay in front of you? Usually you try to be in front, and only you try to steal the ball if you have a chance to do it. It's like in basketball.
You have your man, and if you can intercept the ball, then you can try to steal. So that would be a question.
Like if you put – can you imagine – If Draymond Green played handball, he would just steal it from everyone. Not so easy.
Not so easy because, you know – I think so. Yeah.
I don't think so. I don't think so.
I guess we're just going to disagree. We have to.
We have to. Jay Calder was saying that he's ready.

Don't you imagine? You know how difficult it is to win an Olympic gold medal? It's very difficult. It's very difficult.
Even in handball. In handball it's difficult.
Yeah? Yeah. So, Nikola Karabacic, which is a French player.
One of the best ever. Former player of FC Barcelona.
This guy was saying that if Jim J. Cutler wants to go and wants to play against his team, and Jim Cutler and the team wants against Karabatic and his team, he, Nikola Karabatic, will give him his gold medal.
So Jim doesn't need to go to the Olympics to get it. So he can play for a gold medal? Yes.
Okay. It's ready.
So we're all in the gold medal match. And Nikola Karabatic keeps his worth always.
So if he's saying that he's going to do so, he will do it. How many games does he get to play? Just one? One.
Just one game and he gets a gold medal. Yeah.
Now, another interesting story. So this, everyone in the handball community knows about this story.
Yes, yes. This is great.
In Europe, it's a trending topic in Europe. Is it? It's a trending topic in Europe.
Well, I think, just for the record, if Europe's listening to me, America has superior athletes to Europeans. That's just a fact.
We just do. Every single one of them is better than every European in every sport that any European has tried to play.
Except in handball. No, no.
All of them. I just want to keep this trending right now.
Give me facts. In handball.
I want to keep this trending right now. So the entire continent of Europe, they do not measure up to our waist when it comes to any sort of athleticism.
I'm going to try to call him, and I want you to tell him about the gold medal thing. Yeah, of course.
All right. He probably won't pick up.
Actually, I'm going to guarantee he won't pick up. By the way, he has been invited by Flensburg, which is the top teams in Germany, to be one week there training with them.
So he wants to go to train with one of the best teams in Germany. He can go there.
Everyone knows about Jay. Yes.
This is crazy. It's amazing.
You know Jay's going to call you back in like two weeks. Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, he's not going to call you. Hey, I just saw I missed your call.
Yeah, there's no way he's picking up. I knew.
And by the way, Nicola Caravates is a huge fan of the NFL. Oh, really? Okay.
He would be happy to. If he wants to come over and try playing in the NFL, I'll give him my spot on the XFL roster.
So that'll be a little my way of saying thank you for Jay.

No, this is coming out in a couple weeks.

So I've had a lot of people saying that the way that we're constructing our team,

because we built our team out of former guests of this show.

So I think our team is like Tim Howard at goalkeeper. Josh Allen, Blake Griffin, Danny Woodhead, Phil Hughes, a pitcher that used to throw upper 90s.
Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler.
Now we've heard from people that – Patrick Mahomes. Pat Mahomes.
Oh, yeah. Wow.
Did that just change your opinion? No, no, no, no. Yeah, I think so.
They need a lot of time. I think so.
They need more than one year to do it. I don't know.
To do it properly. I don't know.
The only criticism. What if it's two and five? Yeah, what if it was Cutler and Mahomes and then five handball players? No, no, no, no.
Two pros handball players and five. Five.
So Nikolai and you. Nikola.
Nikola and you. I'm not playing anymore.
But you and your prime. You and your prime.
In my prime. Sounds like you're a coward.
So the two of you. No, I'm not a coward.
I mean, you're not playing anymore. Hamlet is a very demanding sport.
I'm not playing anymore. But you and your prime.
You and your prime. In my prime.
Sounds like you're a coward. No, I'm not a coward.
Hamlet's a very demanding sport. I'm not young at all.
So the two of you, plus Blake Griffin, Phil Hughes, Tim Howard, Danny Woodhead. Against who? Jay Cutler.
Against France. No way.
France. We lost.
Oh, you have a little... We lost.
We lost for sure. Flick there that was nice.
You don't like admitting that you didn't use France. I would love to do that, but, you know, we have no chance.
I disagree. It's a team sport.
As an expert. It's a team sport.
You know, one play is very important. So the one criticism that we've had about our team is that we don't have any left-handed players on our team.
Is that important to have a mix? Well, it helps. It helps because, you know, the players who are playing on the right side of the court, it's better if they are left-handed.
Dontrell Willis. We add Dontrell Willis to our squad.
Handball shape, but yeah. You don't think so? Are you serious? He's thick.
Do you need one fat person? He played baseball since 2009. Is it helpful to have one big guy? Yes.
A guy who's way out of shape. There you go.
It's very important to get a big guy with weight because there's one guy who's playing in between or in the middle of the defense. Try to block.
That's like Lane Johnson. Try to block.
We're both bloggers. Is there a goat in handball say it again if is there a greatest of all time in handball like one player that everyone's like that's the guy nowadays i would say that nikola karabatic is is the guy so this is the guy that we got to beat he's the final boss now what let's talk about what will happen if jay cutler and his team our team beats nikola karibacic would handball just not exist anymore like the sport would be done no that will not happen so we're talking about things that will not happen it's like floyd mayweather versus conor mcgregor if conoror McGregor beat Floyd Mayweather, boxing is done.
Yeah.

So you realize that.

Yeah, I understand that, but I think that it's impossible that a bunch of good and amazing athletes,

they cannot learn how to play in three or four months.

It's impossible against a European club.

What's the toughest skill to pick up?

I think the technique itself.

How to throw, how to jump, how to win the game.

It's a good one. What's the toughest skill to pick up? I think the technique itself.
How to throw, how to jump, how to win the game. And I actually agree with you there.
We were talking about it. We always do the thing as like, oh, if we had all of our best players play soccer.
But soccer is a sport where it's not – Americans are not playing soccer at a young enough age and enough people where they're learning like the feet, the touches.

You are right.

The thing that PFT mentioned is why we think handball is a little different.

Handball has an element of pretty much every sport.

Yes, you are right.

And it makes sense what you are saying.

But I remember very well, you know, in Barcelona where I was a player, we have a basketball team.

One of the best in Europe. Okay, this is not NBA, but Pau Gasol was playing for us, and it has been a very good player in the NBA.
I remember, not Pau, other players, you know, after our training, we were training in the same facility, okay? So after our training, they were trying to shoot, pass the ball, and they were like kids, you know. The way that they were passing, the way that they were just bouncing, it's different because it's not like in basketball that you can carry the ball.
This is a different way of doing. So you get used to doing a movement and handball is different.
Maybe American football is quite similar, but it is not exactly the same. So when I throw the ball in American football, it's not doing this movement, you know? Spiral, yeah.
Why? Because I don't have the technique. In handball, you have to shoot really, really hard.
Jumping, because you are not standing, you have to jump a lot of times. It requires a technique, and it's something that you need to practice.
And two or three months, okay, you will improve a lot. But to compete in a high, high level is not enough.
I understand the technique aspect. I mean, I don't disagree there.
I just, two or three months, if you gave him just like a real training camp. If you give James Harden four steps to play with, he would come up with some weird stuff on offense.
Because I agree. Obviously, we're not saying that if, you know,

Jay Cutler just jumped on him.

The American Olympic team is looking for players.

So if somebody wants to do it, they can apply,

and they will be welcome there for sure.

Isn't there something to say, though,

like a culture that hasn't grown up in that technique?

We might come at the game with a totally different perspective,

come up with new techniques you haven't even thought about yet.

Because we're smarter as Americans.

Put that in the news, too.

We're smarter.

Maybe, but it's very difficult to compete with such a high-level place

that we have in Europe.

Actually, that brings up a good question.

How much is coaching in handball?

You know, the way of playing is really important.

So it's like a mix between, for me, American football is a coaching game. You know, it's very important.
Basketball is not so important. For me, handball is in between, in the middle.
Because you have a lot of individual players that can make actions alone. So you only need a big, big action to score a goal.
But in general, if you want to be successful, you need a good coach and a good way of playing. Do you have video games for handball over in Spain? There's one video game.
That's what we need. So if we had video games growing up where our kids could grow up playing instead of playing Madden or playing FIFA, I think that instantly puts us at the top of the world record.
Are you in the video game? Sorry, say? Are you in the video game? No, because I was a player 15 years ago. I'm too old.
I'm from another generation. I'm not like you.
Is there generational battles like in America? Charles Barkley gets on TV once a week and just says the NBA is soft. Do they have that with handball? Exactly the same.
We still think that our handball was better than their handball. How's the game change? Is it more offense? It's more physical and faster.
Oh. Yes, like the NBA.
So you're saying that the game was more physical when you played? No, nowadays it's more physical. But you don't think that it's good that it's more physical.
I agree on that. So I think the talent, there's less talent and more physical.
Interesting. Yes.
Interesting. But probably if we have to play, nowadays, you know, we always talk about, let's try to imagine science fiction.
We, 20 years ago, in our best moment, playing right now with the players that are the best ones right now, we always fight to say who is going to win. I think that we probably will lose because in terms of physical condition, those guys are better trained than us and they are stronger than us.
But you never know. It's something that will never happen.
So nobody knows. We're going to do you a favor.
We're going to cut that out of the podcast because you should never, ever admit that. Like as older guy like the old generation they have to always say they would beat the younger generation always yes and just like you couldn't play with us yes because they cannot prove it right yeah exactly you never have to back your words up that's just classic i'm a humble guy yeah we're better um all right my last question has handball had any kind of steroid controversy No.
We don't have a real sport. So we load our guys.
Not a real sport. You need to have a cheating.
Any cheating? Like using something weird on the balls? A trash can. Can you gamble on it? Can you gamble? Yes, we can gamble.
Okay, I'm in on that. But has there been any kind of controversy? Because that's the mark of a true sport, is finding a way to cheat on it.
No, no. We are not so bad people, you know.
Yeah, no, no, it's fair. It's fair.
It's fair play. Americans always find a way to cheat.
It's only cheating if you get caught. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're right. You're right.
Maybe we'll know what's going on. Yeah, You need a cheating controversy, and the gambling's good, and the video game's good.
Jay Cutler playing in one game. I'm close to saying handball's a real sport.
It's a real sport. Yeah.
No, I'm close. It's always looked like one of the more fun sports to watch.
I would like to invite you to watch a game in Europe, and you will change your mind. I'm not saying that I'd be good at handball.
That's not what I'm doing. Just to watch it.
Just to watch it. And to analyze and to try to see it live.
I would love to. And it's going to be a shock for you.
Do they play? There's no handball in America anywhere? No, no. There are handball here, yes.
Can we do that? Can we go watch a game here? Yes, but it is not the level that we have in Europe. Okay.
So what you want to see here is not exactly what we are doing in Europe. Okay.
Is it like a tennis crowd or is the crowd rowdy like? Oh, good question. Fireworks? Fireworks, yes.
We have fireworks. I love that.
We have the final event of the Champions League, which is the biggest competition in Europe because we play like in soccer. You know the Champions League? Yeah, yeah.
We play the national competition and the European competition. The European competition is like the Champions League.
The final event is in Cologne, in Germany. And it's not far away in terms of show, environment, atmosphere, than all-star game from the NBA.
Do you ever play any games outside? No, it's indoor. You can play outside, but it's an indoor game.
Not professionally. In the NBA all-star game, there's no defense being played, though.
Well, I'm saying about the show. Oh, the spectacle around.
A lot of prostitutes. And the concerts and the things that are going in now.
Fans fighting. Well, fans fighting.
What about goal celebrations? Do you get to take your shirt off and push it around your head to go like a helicopter? You don't have time to do it. People are clapping and enjoying, but you have to score and you have to go fast to defense.
That might be an issue for some of our players. People are cheering a lot and enjoying a lot watching the handball games.
Last question. Is there a shot clock? Sorry? Is there a shot clock? If we're up 10, can I just hold the ball? No.
We're talking about the beginning. The referee will say that you don't want to attack and will give the ball to the other team.
So it's like a shot clock in the ref's head. You have to make a movement towards goal.
Exactly. At all times.
Yes. Can never go backwards? You can go backwards, but if it's one, two, but if it's all the way backwards, then the referee will take out the other ball.
Do people fight with referees? Like soccer, when a team's up, they're just a turtle. No, no.
You cannot do that in handball. Okay.
Listen, I love watching handball in the Olympics when it comes on. It's like a nice surprise because I don't expect it.
And then I always just fall myself back into the same pattern of like, we could dominate this game. I could kick this game.
I could compete right now. This is exactly where I'm saying that we cannot lose with a new generation.
We cannot prove it. I hope you will be wrong and we can prove it.
That's exactly what you're saying right now is exactly our strategy going into this whole thing is make a bold claim. That will never in a million years have to back up.
But we get people talking about it and then it ends up good for us. Right.
I think the handball community at large is probably mad at us. But again, we've actually probably done a lot for the handball community, not to pat ourselves on the back.
For sure in the US. Brought it out.
But yeah, we, our intention is to never actually play so that we don't actually have to prove what we say. That's a mistake.
Alright, well Oka, thank you so much. Thank you very much.
Really appreciate this. I enjoy it a lot.
It's a lot of fun. I love Barcelona, by the way.
I think Barcelona is the best city on planet Earth. Thank you very much.
I appreciate it. If you come to Barcelona, let me know it.
You all get invitations to go to the soccer games in Barcelona. Love it.
Whatever you want. That's the only reason I said it was to get free stuff.
You get it. All right.
Thanks so much. Thank you very much.
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First up, we got Fyre Fest. Hank, why don't you get us going? My FireFest is that there's a lot of nice Valentine's Day things around the office from various sponsors that have sent stuff in.
But unfortunately, my girlfriend also works at the office, so I am unable to take those things and then pass them off as my own gifts. You were going to give her the 12 packs of Bud Light that came in the heart shape? And there's a bunch of flowers from there's a bunch of flowers.
From 100 flowers. Yeah, 100 flowers.
You can say that. Code PMT.
I didn't want to say the wrong name, but yeah, 100 flowers. But I was told that if I did that, then I would not be seeing her Friday night.
You should get I say that you challenge her on that. You should get her because it's like, what am I supposed to just go out and buy other flowers from another store? What's the difference between those flowers and...
She doesn't come in the studio often, so why don't you get her a Mike Allstott jersey? That's pretty good. Or a Cocho candle.
Yeah, Cocho candle. Why don't you get her...
Who's that helmet? The Rudy. Army helmet.
You can get her a Rudy helmet. Who the fuck signed that helmet? Why don't you get her Who's that Army helmet You can get her a Rudy helmet Why don't you get her a Ron Dane bobblehead These things could work I guess we'll see what happens Just kind of bullshit Terrible towel for a clean up Yeah PFT's not giving up his empty 2020.
I was looking at that.

Nope, you're not taking my mad dog.

No chance.

Yeah, does she like fullbacks?

Mm-hmm.

I don't think so.

Okay.

Well, that's kind of tough.

Narrows it down a little bit.

All right, well, we'll figure it out.

Here, there's a baseball over here.

Give her this baseball.

Does she hate Roger Cadell?

Pitchers and catchers report, baby.

All right, that's good firefesting. What's the worst Valentine's Day gift that you've ever given nothing forgotten and screwed it up yeah yeah nothing's pretty bad nothing is definitely bad alright what's your fire fest PFT my fire fest of the week is all these airplane debates oh yeah so it's back on the internet we go through this once every six months whether or not it's appropriate to recline your seat on an airplane.
It is. Now, they give you the option to do it, but it also makes life a living hell for the person behind you if that person is above six foot two or if that person is trying to work on a laptop.
So now you have this big debate on whether or not you should recline or not because what happens is you lean back. And, yes, the person behind you can lean back.
And then that keeps going until you get to the back of the plane and that person can't lean back and that person was in a viral video yesterday where he was just punching the seat right of the person who leaned back in front of him right and that's my fire fest because this is the big game that airplane is playing on you okay all the airplane companies have us fighting ourselves

they've got us divided when it's actually their fault for making planes so small that it's an

inconvenience now when somebody leans back two inches into your space right we should all be

collectively mad as a passenger but it is an inconvenience when people do that it is but only

because they made the seats so small right so we should all focus on our common enemy which is

airplane companies. They also like

Thank you. people do that it is but only because they made the seats so small right so we should all focus on our common enemy which is airplane companies they also like how about they should just get airplanes where like half of them are for people six feet and over and half are six feet and under and like some people can sit in the front and then you're making me sit in the back of a plane i didn't say are you admitting you're do i need my own water fountain I'm not saying anything.
I'm just saying we should have a little bit of comfort for people who are a little bit taller. That's all.
I don't have a problem with that, but that's not going to happen because the next wave of designs and planes, it's going to have us having these little standing seats. Like you get on one of those roller coasters that suspends you.
Well, it'd probably be cheap. They're taking...
Yeah. Oh, it's going to be...
Spirit Airlines, they have the patent they have the patent my thing is like if you're if you're a big person and you and you use the recline button that's fine but it's it's usually when it's like the like a child or someone who has more than enough space because they're not you know i mean like five two and they recline the minute the fucking plane takes off uh that's that's a killer yeah that's a killer other fire fest is that Oklahoma State and Nebraska announced a home and home in 2034 and 2035. And I have plans.
I have plans. Fuck yes.
God damn it. I'm ready for it.
Book your hotel rooms now. I'm ready for it.
I actually have an extra bonus fire fest for you. I don't know if you saw this PFT.
And I couldn't find the article, but I but i saw it someone tweeted me this uh picture what is that and it says you so your firefest should be that you're not part of texas's uh staff football staff because you kind of are uh it says special teams is now called we fence at ut that i like that can i see it yeah? Yeah, that's bullshit. That's bullshit.

Like, that's you.

That's you.

WeFence is fucking awesome. I mean, that's you.

So your fire vest is basically Texas has found a way to hire you without hiring you.

That's Matthew McConaughey.

That's not fair.

I came up with that.

I saw it.

I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

I was going to say Jameis Winston didn't have laser eye surgery.

He had laser wee surgery because he's such a teammate.

Yes.

But I didn't. And now I feel bad because Texas absolutely cucked me on that defense we fence you know what that's that's the position that i play in the xfl there you go we fence yes there it is um all right my firefest is bitcoin it's up again and i bought it two years ago when it was at its peak forgot that i bought it well i didn't forget but i was like oh it's never going to be back up there because it crashed right away now that it's up again back to what i bought it at i think i want to buy more which means it will crash again what's basically the biggest sucker of bitcoin of all time i think it's is it like 15 or something it's it's for one bitcoin i think the bitcoin's back baby bitcoin price it's back one thing Cryptocurrency is back.
One thing I've learned about investing is that most people- 10,000. Most people make their money off investing by buying something and then forgetting about it and then finding it later.
Right. Whether it's like a famous baseball card that your mom kept in the shed for a while, or if it's just something in your portfolio that you're like, oh shit, I bought that? Okay, look, I can see it actually on the chart right here.
So end of 2017, I think I bought it at like $15,000, and then it went all the way down to $3,000. And that's when you sold? No, I haven't sold because I forgot.
Oh, you still have it. I don't even know how to access it.
You still have it, okay. Yeah, but it's now back up that I'm like, ooh, I should probably get back in this game.
So I'm really just buying high. Your Bitcoin was probably in that Magic the Gathering online exchange that lost all, like $250 million worth of Bitcoin.
I just keep buying high on Bitcoin with no other strategy. Honestly, that's the funnest way to do it with something that doesn't even exist.
It's like watching a game and betting the live over after three touchdowns in the first quarter. Well, if you didn't spend very much money on it, it wouldn't feel as important to you.

Right.

But since you spent a shitload of money, you're like, oh, that's cool.

Someday, people keep saying, the other problem is I follow a few cryptocurrency guys.

And if you follow a few cryptocurrency guys, you're just convinced that the world will just one day just be one giant Bitcoin.

Like nothing else exists.

There's some of these people that they're like in a cult when they talk about Bitcoins. All right, next segment we have, do we care about the dunk contest? Probably not.
No. I'm actually going to go.
I'm going to Chicago this weekend. We're going to be on radio three to five at Declan's in Old Town.
Come out and say hello. We've got an NBA jam tournament at Joe's on Weed on Saturday.
I'm going to the dunk contest. And even with that said, I don't care.
The only way I care about it is when they show the pictures in the stands of the guys that have all the different scorecards strung together. They've got like 10 of them.
Oh, I got to get a scorecard. You have to get multiple of them so that you can put up a score that's like 10 million, 10 hundred, 10 million, 10 thousand, 10 hundred, et cetera, et cetera.
Like nine digits long. Right.
So I was thinking about it. I'm going just because I want to say that I went to one, but I really don't want to go.
But I want to say that I went to one. So should I just say I went to one? No, you should go and you should get a scorecard and you should get an old school handycam from like 2005 and just like pretend that you record or actually just record the entire thing on the handycam i'm also very woke that i think jerry reinsdorf is going to take a shitload of pictures of a of a full united center and then like start using that for the rest of the season being like packed house tonight photoshop well why does it say all-star game on the court packed house they should actually the Bulls are smart, they would leave the court exactly the same for the rest of the year.
Yes. And then just keep using that over and over.
Didn't LeBron say he was going to compete this year? No. So it's Dwight Howard, which will be fun.
That will be fun. Pat Connaughton, Aaron Gordon, I think, is in it, and Derek Jones Jr.
From? From? Your Miami Heat? My Miami Heat. I thought you were asking for college.
Oh, no, no, no. Yeah.
Because when Boomer does that, it's always Louisville. Louisville, yeah.
So Dwight will be fun. Yeah, Dwight's going to be a good time.
Dwight will be fun. But everyone else, I don't know.
I mean, Pat Connaughton, everyone will get excited. Well, Aaron Gordon.
Yeah, Aaron Gordon. I'm okay, all right.
It's okay, yeah. I've talked myself into still not caring.
You dunk contest, whatever it was, two, three, four. I might be old at this point.
But the Aaron Gordon, Zach Levine one was the greatest dunk contest of all time. Zach Levine's in the three-point contest.
But people, like, it was the greatest dunk contest of all time. And people were just like, all right, that was good.
Right. Like, there's no way it's going to be that good.
And even if it is, people aren't going to care, which is crazy. It actually is kind of crazy because if it's also like indicative of the entire all-star weekend remember when the all-star game was fun because it felt like guys guys would try in the fourth quarter yeah now the teams are all it's not east west it's all jumbled the lebronification of the it really is actually the giannissification because he's terrible at drafting it's uh And the three-point contest has a four-pointer now? It's like, what is this? The ice cubification of the NBA.
I feel like an old man yelling at clouds. Oh, shit.
I like that. I like that, Hank.
Yeah. The O'Shea-ification.
They're trying to keep up with the big three. They are.
I mean, coincidence? Nope. Absolutely not.
The LeBron O'Shea-ification of the NBA. There it is.
It's not my NBA. What about, what do you think is the corniest thing that Dwight Howard's going to do to try to make one of his average stonks look cool? He's definitely going to, he definitely asked LeBron if he would be in it and LeBron was like, nope.
He might wear a LeBron jersey. He might wear a Kobe.
He's going to wear a Kobe jersey. He just said it.
He's going to wear it. He just said it.
He actually is going to jump over a pit of snakes. Oh, Mambas? That would be cool.
That would be awesome. That would be cool.
Bye, Mambas. All right, Dwight Howard, you won't jump over a pit of venomous snakes.
He's not going to do that. He's going to end up wearing like a Harry Potter outfit.
I can fly. Fuck.
No, you know what? He's going to go extra. You guys hate it.
I never was a great interviewer. No, no, no.
He's just asking. No, but he's right.
He's going to do something corny. Yeah, he's going to do it.
Hank, and I did not mind it. I liked Dwight Howard.
He's going to do something corny. I thought he was a good person.
The Spider-Man, or no, was it Superman? Superman. You were doubting him, Big Cat.
Yeah, Big Cat was. What? You thought Dwight Howard was kind of full.
He was done. Yeah, he's been very good this year.
Yeah, yeah. He's been a lot better than I thought.
Big Cat treated Dwight Howard like the XFL. Oh, you're really still hurt about the XFL, huh? You're hurt.
Are they paying you on the side? Because you shouldn't be this hurt. Zero dollars.
All right. All the money would be going to charity, by the way.
That's true. All right.
Speaking of money, the second to last segment, we got to figure out. This isn't even a segment.
It's just a brainstorm. We got to figure out how to get money from Mike Bloomberg because he's giving it to everyone for his campaign.
He is paying social. He's paying people on Instagram $150 to say something nice about him.
He's paying fuck Jerry. He's paying staffers tons of money, giving them a shitload of perks.
It is the Fyre Fest because he's contracting out the Fyre Fest people to try to make him cool. So he's doing business with Fuck Jerry with a big group of meme accounts, but he has not reached out to us.
I've made videos for Bloomberg for free. Mini Mike.
Mike, I don't know if I'm going to vote for you. I'm definitely not, but I would still like your money.
Yes. I feel like he would respect that as a money person.
Yeah, like Mike, we will be bought. We've never done a political endorsement on this show, but we will do a political endorsement for $10 million.
Yes, I will endorse the fuck out of Mike Bloomberg. And I actually think in a weird way...

For $9,999,000.

He might do it.

Like, he...

I was reading this thread today

how basically his entire campaign

is just by people.

Like, he...

Okay.

He did an event

where he had, like, everyone out.

It was like every president's campaign

until 1860.

He did a grassroots campaign where he... It was grassroots, but it was just a fully catered campaign event.
So it's like a rally, but he just fed everyone. Okay.
And then he gets staffers and he just gives them free MacBooks and shit. We're in on this.
Yes. So tell us.
It's like if the Obamaphone thing were true. Yeah.
Tell us how much, Mike. We will do it mini mike we will stop saying mini mike yeah i'll elevate you i'll tell you what mike bloomberg i will i will stand next to you at every public event that you have between now and the election and you will look at least like you're five foot seven you got this mini mike you got this buddy just pay me like sometimes people, very rich people, can smell the poor on me.
Like, this guy grew up not rich. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to get money from Mike, but I feel like Mike is the kind of guy that typically gives money to people that have money.
You know? No, but he doesn't want to be seen giving money to people that need. That's basically our- I think, though, he's getting desperate.
He's just going to give money to everyone. No.
Our economy is based off rich people giving rich people money. I think Mini Mike, if we just push him hard enough, maybe we need to start bashing him on social media and then, like old mafia style, like, hey, see you're having a really hard time with your Instagram comments.
You want us to protect you? We could hop in those comments. We could do the JJW.
And then just stop. Yeah, stop responding.
We could go, hey, Mini Mike. Yeah, Mini Mike.
That might be the move. Just know.
Have everyone reply with little Mini Coopers to every single one of his tweets until he pays us to stop. Well, also, we didn't invent that name.
That's a Trump name. No, yeah, I know it is.
It's electric. It's a great nickname.
I'm just trying to think what we could do that separates us. Because if people start doing that, people might be like, oh, that's a Trump.
Mikey. Those are Trump fans that are doing it.
I want all the credit for this. Little small Mike.
Tyke Bloomberg. Yeah.
Little Tyke. Mike the Tyke.
Mike the Tyke. Mike the Tyke.
There it is. Yeah, Mike the Tyke.
Okay. Mike the Tyke.
Oh, I want to pat you on your wheel head. All right.
Let's finish up. We did, uh, we, we did do guys on chicks on Wednesday.
So we figured we'd do a special guys on chicks for Valentine's day. We'll finish up with that.
And then, uh, we do have a show on president's day. Don't you worry.
We'll have a show for you. Uh, I think some people are off off.
President's Day? Yeah. Mike Bloomberg's definitely off.
Yeah, that's true. Unless he pays us, then maybe he'll be president.
Then you too could get President's Day off, Mike. Start or sit.
Wearing a new set of seductive lingerie as a gift for your boyfriend. Is it hot to slip into something new and sexy like he's sleeping over with a stranger or selfish to buy something for yourself then claim it's for his benefit? No, he would never.
Guys don't think like that. Yeah.
He'll just be like, that's for you. He's going to be like, I have an erection.
What a great gift. Yeah.
So don't give me the gift of horny. Yeah.
Lordy. So start.
Speaking of boners, happy Valentine's Day boner dogs. Would you rather get a boner every time you pet a dog or have dogs get boners every time you pet them?

Oh, man.

I think they are reversed.

Yeah, let the dog have their boners.

Yeah, because if you've got it.

Because then you can just be like, that's nature.

People will be like, what the hell is going on?

You got some explaining to do.

Yeah.

Be a normal person.

Just get a boner on the way to the airport.

Sup, nip, slip, cat, and PFT. My boyfriend has been talking weird the last few months every time I bring up summertime.
He's getting a beach house in Belmar and thinks about how hard he wants to fist pump at DJ's. Shout out Rico Bosco.
Every time I mention coming to see him, he gets all bland and making it seem like he doesn't want to date in the summer. Classic.
How should I boyfriend who seems to be more concerned about djs than me does he just want to fuck other girls babe it's not even gonna be fun we're probably just gonna like i don't know go to the beach and then go to sleep at like nine listen here's the thing about the jersey shore is you fall in love with clubs you don't fall in love with with other people so yeah like you you walk by the parker house and you're like damn girl that's a 9.5 right there. This is one of those ones where you probably just want to break up now because otherwise he's going to ignore you, get in a fight with you, or do something drastic like the first week of summer.
Or resent you. Yeah.
So it's not, yeah, this is probably not going to work.

No one's in a relationship at the Jersey Shore or inside of a real world house.

No, actually, this is what you do.

This is what you really do.

You tell him, you pull the Robert Kraft, go ahead, see what's out there.

Tell him, you know what, we'll have an open relationship this summer,

and he will undoubtedly strike out the first two weeks,

and then you go down there with the lingerie, and you're like, you want this back? There you you do you just different question but still yeah same you show up just one night wearing nothing but the lingerie at the osprey you fuck all his friends and he sees you from across the room and it's like jennifer love hewitt in that uh can't hardly wait yeah no no do that though do the uh say we'll have an open relationship, then fuck all his friends. Hey, PMT boys, especially Honk Longwood.
Honk. Honk.
I'm meeting my boyfriend's family for the first time this weekend at a hibachi place. Drinks will be flowing, shrimp will be flying.
Any tips y'all can offer up on what to do or not to do to impress my future parents-in-law uh yeah just act really surprised and impressed at everything that the chef does you're anyone who like applauds when they make the onion volcano that person's a lot of fun to be around yes and i would say make sure you take it easy on the mai tais those those things will sneak up on you oh uh when you're trying to look cool and and uh and pay for the tab watch out. The table is very, very hot.
Don't put your credit card or bills on there. Yes.
Hey, boys, especially very handsome Hank. I'm currently talking to two guys.
One goes to Minnesota. The other goes to Maryland.
I don't go to either. I was wondering which guy I should drop and which guy I should pursue to be my boo.
During basketball season, the Maryland guy, football season, the Minnesota

guy. Maryland basketball.

It's not the same. Why?

Because it's not ACC? I kind of agree.

Yeah. Yeah.
It's kind of like

Pitt and Syracuse being in the ACC.

It will never not be weird. Yeah.

I agree. Did you see that shirt that was

selling at Walmart that said Minnesota Badgers?

Yeah, I love it. Bestoprosity, baby.

There it is. Let's go.

Everyone goes to college. Honestly,

go with the guy from Maryland because

I'll see you next time. Selling at Walmart that said Minnesota Badgers.
Yeah, I love it. Ressiprosity, baby.
Ressiprosity is back in a big way. Let's go.
Everyone goes to college. Honestly, go with the guy from Maryland because Minnesota is just too cold.
Yes. I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with someone in Minnesota.
But Lake House, summer. Kind of fun.
Land of 10,000 lakes. Eastern Shore, summer.
I don't know. The global warming.
That shore is going to get smaller and smaller. Good point.
Date the guy from Maryland now and then break up with him and start dating the guy from Minnesota once the shore is encroached to Annapolis. All right.
Last one. Sup, boys, especially Liam and the Zillion Beers dude.
Oh. I was going through my boyfriend's Instagram and saw that he follows the Pornhub account.
Should I confront him about this or just let it go? No, let it go. They just do entertaining posts.
It's just engaging social content. What? I mean, come on.
Guys watch porn. Girls watch porn too.
Why do you need to follow the Pornhub Instagram? Guys watch porn, but why follow? I'm about to follow it. Instagram would be a lot.
Instagram really should come up with something where it's like, hey, if you're a porn star, every follow is incognito. We'll show how many followers you have, but everyone who follows you can't be tracked.
It would make the world a better place. Honestly, it would make who you follow on Instagram a better place.
By the way, have you guys done the search on Instagram?

When it says, when you do the search,

I love Instagram because it's

a search and then it's like, sports, sports,

sports, big boobs. And then you click on big

boobs and you just scroll and it's just more big boobs.

They know what they're trying to do.

I don't know what you're talking about. Look this.

Search.

That's based off other things you've

liked. I mean, I like sports and big boobs.

Yes. No, I agree.
You're like LeBron James.

No, I love sports and big boobs, but they've really done a good job. They give themselves away with like, oh, this ad came up on my website.
Like, what the hell? They've done a good job of this, though. It really makes it so it's like right there.
I mean, really, I'm looking at the Pornhub posts. They're all just very engaging.
Any stats about the Super Bowl and how many people masturbated? Those are the fakest things ever. There's some good memes.
And Ravel always is like, look at how edgy my content is. Asa Akira's on there.
Former co-worker. That's probably what it was.
He wanted to keep up with how Asa was doing. Yeah, exactly.
It looks like she's getting naked.

There it is.

All right.

That's our show.

We'll see everyone on Monday.

I think we're on Joakim Noah.

Joakim Noah?

Possibly.

Joakim Noah.

Great interview.

Coming Monday.

Love you guys.

Happy Valentine's Day. Thank you.
I don't know what to say, I'll say it anyway

Today is another day to find you shying away

I've been coming for your love of me Thank you. I'm all descending But I'll be stumbling away

I'm struggling learning

The fight is okay

Stay after me