Mark Cuban, This League, And Guys On Chicks

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take,

Speaker 1 we have Mark Cuban. The long-awaited Mark Cuban interview is finally here.
We luckily caught up with him in South Beach during the Super Bowl week.

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$10 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, February 5th, and it's this league time.

Speaker 1 Football's over, so it's time for this league.

Speaker 3 They wasted no time getting back into the Petty Wars today.

Speaker 1 Almost a little too perfect timing with football.

Speaker 3 I'm convinced that there was a script going around. to the Golden State Warriors, to the Memphis Grizzlies, to Woge.

Speaker 3 Woge probably wrote it, as a matter of fact, and get Wendy involved in there too, Rachel Nichols, all the key players. This is like sweeps week.

Speaker 3 In the NBA, they knew now's their time to strike, and they did it with the perfect timing. Hats off to David Stern.

Speaker 1 And as all NBA beefs go, they always, all roads lead back to Kevin Durant. So here's what's happened.

Speaker 1 Essentially, everyone knows that Andrea Guedala got traded in July for cap relief to the Grizzlies. He essentially said at the time, I'm not playing for them.
Trade me to a contender.

Speaker 1 It was all kind of agreed upon. Like everyone said, this isn't a real trade.
He's going to eventually play for another team. He has not played all year.
He has not shown up.

Speaker 1 He has not done anything with the Grizzlies because he kind of said he wasn't going to, which is okay because he admitted it. And I think the Grizzlies were like, that's fine.
We'll trade you.

Speaker 1 Last night,

Speaker 1 who was it? Dylan Brooks was asked about Andre Guadala, and he essentially said, we can't wait till he gets traded so we can beat his ass and show him what this team's about.

Speaker 1 Because the Grizzlies are kind of a fun young team with John Morant. Then, of course, it went to Twitter.

Speaker 6 He did say, though, his quote was like, it's not a distraction at all. I laugh at that type of thing.

Speaker 3 It's not even there, right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 So it's like, it is this league where the words have definitely gotten

Speaker 3 misconstrued, but it's fully fledged now. This is the only league ever where somebody that hasn't been on the team all year can get into a fight with somebody about not being on that team

Speaker 3 when it was agreed upon that he would not be on that team later. Right.

Speaker 1 So Steph Curry then responded with a Instagram story with Andre Goudale holding the Larry O'Brien trophy, being like, hey, look, he's got a ring. Why don't you shut up?

Speaker 1 And John Morant, which I love, future rookie of the year, responded with Kevin Durant being like, hey, who won those rings? Kevin Durant. And that's where this league reaches its final destination.

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant being used

Speaker 1 to somehow cuck the Warriors' success is perfect this league.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he is the straw that stirs the drama in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 And it's great. Yeah, whenever you see him, like he was making like the shrugging sign, that was the perfect matchup to the emoji that was used.

Speaker 3 This is why I think that it was all written out, was because the emojis were locked and loaded to be matched up with the pictures.

Speaker 3 It was almost a little bit too perfect and too coincidental. They need to have something to talk about going into the all-star break.
This is the perfect way to get it going again.

Speaker 1 I love what John Morant did as well because he is a Steph Curry fan and he admitted it right away.

Speaker 1 Because, of course, once he goes at Steph Curry, everyone will go find his tweets saying, Steph Curry's the man, Steph Curry's awesome.

Speaker 1 You know, three years ago when he was in high school or when he was in college. So, he just admitted it.
He's like, I'm not deleting it. And yeah, I've always been a Steph Curry fan.

Speaker 1 I'm just not scared of anyone. So, I like this.
I like this from John Morant.

Speaker 1 He's an incredible player, but on top of that, it seems like he's got a good personality because Most people would like, you know, get mad online or

Speaker 1 delete it after a little bit or walk away or get on their burner. He just owns up to.
He's like, I was a Steph Curry fan. I'm not scared of anyone.
I'm really good.

Speaker 3 He always shocks me when I watch a highlight of Ja Moran just dunking on somebody, just being ruthless because his name's Ja.

Speaker 3 He's like, that seems like too Rastafari respect of a name for someone who's not very chill at all on the court.

Speaker 1 It's also, shout out to the Grizzlies, by the way, because they've been wearing their throwback jerseys. I think they wore them last night.
Awesome. Grit.
The teal.

Speaker 1 No, no, the

Speaker 1 Vancouver ones. Yeah, yeah, the Teal.

Speaker 3 Big Country. Yes.
The original Big Country.

Speaker 1 They're awesome. Those are great, great jerseys.

Speaker 3 The mid-90s was really a bad time for a lot of stuff. But not those.
But not those jerseys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should bring those back full-time because they are, they pop. They absolutely pop.

Speaker 3 It turns the Mississippi River, the coast of the Mississippi River, into like a little bit of South Beach, having that teal and that pink and red on there.

Speaker 1 It's gorgeous. We also have this league because Ben Simmons called the Sixers soft.
He said we're soft.

Speaker 1 Jay Butt ate that ass last night, which was the easiest bet of all time when you watched the fact that I think Kylie Jenner, or is it Kendall? Kendall. Kendall was in South Beach for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 All the Sixers were at the Super Bowl. Of course, they were going to get the shit kicked out of them against the heat on Monday night.
And it's, I mean, the Sixers are in a big-time problem.

Speaker 1 Trust the process. They don't know what to do.
They have two guys that can't play together.

Speaker 1 And now you have a guy, you know, I mean, he did say we are soft, so at least he threw himself in there, right? But that's really a Joel Embiid is soft.

Speaker 3 How many threes has he made this year?

Speaker 1 Two, two. Shit.

Speaker 3 Okay, is that over or under still at like seven and a half?

Speaker 1 I'm not sure where it is.

Speaker 3 Because I really want to get in on that. Now, Stephen A.
Smith was pissed off last night. I saw that.
He was saying, what in the hell, capital H-E-L-L, is this?

Speaker 3 I've been watching the Sixers trailing the heat by 35 damn points. What the hell they do?

Speaker 3 Whenever you get at least two hell and damns in a Stephen A. Smith tweet, you know he's pretty upset.
Did they party with the Chiefs after the damn Super Bowl? Brett Brown running this Spurs system.

Speaker 3 Tim Duncan and Tony Parker ain't walking through that door. Damn.
So that's three damns, two hells, which are all fine. That's just generic profanity.
Ass, hell, damn.

Speaker 1 It's all out on this page. It's all out on the feed.
No swearing on the feed, though, otherwise.

Speaker 3 But yeah, Stephen A. Smith is very, very upset with the current state of the Sixers right now.

Speaker 3 But I've had a long-standing theory that any team from a cold weather city or a city that's going through cold weather, whenever they go to Miami, bet against them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Of course. And I mean, it's doubly true when you can literally go on Instagram and see them at the game having a great time.
The Sixers are horrendous, horrendous on the road.

Speaker 1 Are you, Hank, where are you at with the Sixers? Because that was, for a while, it was like, hey, the Sixers and the Celtics are going to have a nice rivalry going forward.

Speaker 6 Oh, I'm sure it'll still bubble up in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, Ben Simmons is saying that, but it's more of like a midseason, like we're soft. It's not

Speaker 6 like the NBA, it's like until the all-star break, like they still have time to turn it around.

Speaker 1 It's a very weird team, though.

Speaker 6 I mean, the Celtics smoked.

Speaker 6 They smoked the Sixers on Sunday. That was great.
Celtics are banged up, too.

Speaker 6 I don't know. It's one of those.
The NBA, I feel like you have to wait until the All-Star break to really, really decide who's here to play and who's not.

Speaker 1 And we have, I think, trade deadline coming up on Friday. So

Speaker 1 something big will happen. Yeah, a little Woge bomb coming.
Or when nothing will happen, everyone will say, damn, this trade deadline sucks.

Speaker 3 It seems like it's going going to be a little bit more difficult. When is the trade deadline during the day on Friday?

Speaker 6 I think it's on Thursday.

Speaker 1 It might be Thursday, yeah.

Speaker 3 So that's going to have to be one night that we see. Yes, it is Thursday.

Speaker 1 It's late.

Speaker 3 I remember we got blindsided by a couple trades a few years ago.

Speaker 1 That wasn't the trade deadline, though.

Speaker 1 That was when Boogie got traded randomly after the All-Star game. So that was not anything that we could expect.
I think it's in the middle of the afternoon, though, on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Either way, this league is back. Feels good to be back on this league.

Speaker 1 The NBA knows how to get get people interested right as soon as football ends. So good job by them.

Speaker 1 By the way, you can watch us barstowgold.com slash PMT, the Mark Cuban interview. You can watch that whole interview, barstowgold.com slash PMT.

Speaker 3 Can I put a little tickler out there? Yeah. In the PFT basketball prediction market.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 I think the Heater are going to make the Eastern Conference Finals. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 So would you then admit that J-Bud is good?

Speaker 3 No, I think that they're going to do it. He's a nice number two.

Speaker 1 Do it in spite of him. In spite of him.
Who's their number one? Yeah, no, he's.

Speaker 3 Did you get us?

Speaker 1 Give us a number one PFT?

Speaker 3 No, it's probably Jay Butt.

Speaker 1 Bam Bam? Bam Bam?

Speaker 3 I'll be honest with you. It's probably Hero.
It's probably Jay Butt. Hero is nice.

Speaker 3 I think they're going to make the Easter Conference Finals. I think they're just one of those teams that they all kind of like each other.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 And they've got good chemistry. There it is.

Speaker 1 Chemistry can go a long way. Chemistry.

Speaker 6 Jimmy Butler and chemistry go hand in hand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is the chemistry king of South Beach.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's.

Speaker 3 I'm actually on Jimmy Butler's side. I think that the other four teams he was on that he completely ruined.

Speaker 3 It was everyone's fault.

Speaker 1 Are you then going to say it's addition by subtraction, the fact that Dwayne Wade retired?

Speaker 3 Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Shout out to Eudonis Haslam still being on the heat.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, dude. It's awesome that he's still out there.
What is

Speaker 1 doing the damn thing? Yeah, he's just out there every single night, you know?

Speaker 1 Not every single night, but some nights.

Speaker 6 I can't imagine he's playing at all.

Speaker 1 No, he's not. But he's out there.
Yeah, he's averaging 5.5 minutes.

Speaker 1 He's only played two games. He's out there.
He has been out there twice. Good for him.

Speaker 1 All right, so are you going to buy a heat jersey? You should.

Speaker 3 You should buy a Bam jersey. No, I'm going to get a Kelly Olinik jersey.

Speaker 1 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 You got the roster up now. I got the hair for him.

Speaker 3 I knew Kelly Olinik was on there.

Speaker 1 Kelly, is he even playing? Kelly Olinik, the clinic? Yeah. I know that he does.
He just played.

Speaker 3 He called Name Some Heat Players.

Speaker 3 Justice Winslow.

Speaker 1 Yes, that is one of them. Okay.
Kelly Olinic. Bam is awesome.
Bam. Bam is awesome.
Hero is awesome. Deion Waiters.

Speaker 1 Edible.

Speaker 1 Dragic is good. I like Dragic.

Speaker 1 That's about it. All right.
That's good. That's PFTC.

Speaker 1 I think they got Myers Leonard, too, from Portland, who

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 Illinois having a huge year.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do some hot seat cool throne. We have big news.

Speaker 3 It just occurred to me why I like Miami now.

Speaker 1 Because you were there?

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you get me drunk in a city, I'll be like, that's a cool city. I like their teams now.
I'm going to support their teams. There it is.
I was intoxicated.

Speaker 6 Myles Leonard, all-time bad tattoos, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yes, but yeah.

Speaker 1 It's really tough when you're a seven-foot-white dude. Like, what do you do? Especially when your name's Myers.
Knock it. What do you do, though? Yeah, I think you're going to be able to get it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but you can't listen forever.

Speaker 1 You don't have many moves.

Speaker 1 Your only move is to make millions of dollars in the NBA. That's about it.
And everything else is going to probably not be a move that looks good. I think you can.
Maybe get the Euro haircut.

Speaker 3 Listen, if you're a seven-foot-tall white dude,

Speaker 3 there are worse things to be in life. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 I mean, but just i would what hank is saying though like getting tattoos any kind of style it's all not gonna work you know what i would do though i would go vaguely european if that were me yeah i would make people think i was european to the duke makeo so yeah even if i'm just a white guy from virginia that grew up to be seven foot tall i'm gonna do like the faux hawk i'm gonna start i'm gonna get a croatian like crest tattooed on my shoulder and i'm gonna put a little umlot or something my last name just do it and extend my career by five years yeah you i mean all the duke guys do it all the i mean the plumley brothers are you can't recognize them anymore they're completely different uh okay so we have hot seat cool thrown big news because we actually have it sponsored hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local boars head retailer or you create your own spread at home with boars head premium deli meats and cheeses you are sure to impress your guests my favorites like oven gold turkey or blazing buffalo style chicken paired with their classic Vermont cheddar or creamy Munster cheese, are sure to score big and help me elevate my entertainment every time, whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

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Speaker 6 My hot seat is the Mets. Mets fans everywhere.

Speaker 6 A few months ago, there was news that the Will Ponds were finally selling the team. Right.

Speaker 6 This guy, Steve Cohen, and then today, there was a lot of reports saying that the sale is in ownership and the Will Ponds aren't going anywhere.

Speaker 6 The only statement the Willpons have put out is that the parties are subject to confidentiality obligations including a mutual non-disclosure agreement, therefore cannot comment.

Speaker 3 Ah, so they got cold feet.

Speaker 6 So if you're a Mets fan, you're like...

Speaker 1 They were free. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And now they're not. Actually, it sounds to me like a case of pre-buyer's remorse.
So like knowing that you're about to get buyer's remorse before you even complete the sale.

Speaker 6 And it's got to be one of those things where like now it's going to be scarier for other prospective buyers. If it's like, well, this guy was in, now he's out.

Speaker 1 Now he's out.

Speaker 1 And who who wants to yeah because it seems like the willpons have that uh weird thing going where they don't have money to spend but they have the team that's brutal yeah it's not a good spot to have your team if you love the mets have have an owner who doesn't want to spend money but doesn't also want to sell the team what's it's their greatest asset is the team that they don't spend money on it might be a good move financially for the willpons to like actually say that they're going to sell the team, enter into like a preliminary agreement, and then all these sponsors start coming through because they're like, oh, it's not going to be managed by the Will Pons anymore.

Speaker 3 They start closing new deals left and right all over the place, get a big like Bud Light Celtra sponsor out in center field, and then the Mets are like, actually, you know what, we're going to hang on to it.

Speaker 3 But, you know, those contracts that you signed, still ours.

Speaker 1 It's kind of stupid that Steve Cohn didn't put in no backsies in the deal. Like, that's lawyer 101.

Speaker 3 No backsees.

Speaker 1 No take back.

Speaker 1 Make them sign it.

Speaker 3 Spins on, though, if you're a Mets fan, you're probably the least likely fan base to contract coronavirus because there's nobody else at the game to cough on you. True.

Speaker 3 Safest place to be in the Eastern Seaboard.

Speaker 6 Fucked up of Netflix to like their main, the first thing that popped up when I opened it up was like, pandemic, how to control an outbreak when it happens.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was smart by them. That was like Uber surge pricing.
Yeah. Everyone wants to know about the coronavirus.

Speaker 6 And now I'm fully like, it's happening. Yeah.
It literally starts. It's like, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

Speaker 1 I thought you had it. You were sneezing.
Hank sneezed like 15 times in a row on the way to the airport. And I was like, it's it.
That's it for us. I mean,

Speaker 1 I probably do.

Speaker 6 My other.

Speaker 3 I sneezes every time I get a boner, though.

Speaker 6 My other hot seat, chocolate milk. Did you see that guy? He removed the milk part of it and was just chugging chocolate syrup in the Senate.

Speaker 3 Yeah, as one does.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 6 Power move. Yeah.
Chocolate milk's got to be looking at that picture and being like, oh, fuck. If you're negotiating,

Speaker 1 yeah, if you're negotiating against a guy like that, you've already lost.

Speaker 6 Then my cool throne is my chest and all of our chests.

Speaker 6 The bench press is finally, fully operational.

Speaker 1 What, nine months? Nine months?

Speaker 3 You say that you want us to sit on your chest? Nine months.

Speaker 1 I just said our cool throne is your.

Speaker 3 I'll sit on your chest. All of our chests.

Speaker 1 Nine months, and we got the bench set up.

Speaker 6 It's not about time. It's about

Speaker 6 bottom line. We're a bottom line company.
It's true. It's about gains.

Speaker 3 It's true.

Speaker 1 It's absolutely true. Good point.

Speaker 3 So what's a workout regimen going to be like? I say that we crank out a set before every single show.

Speaker 1 I'm down for that. Okay.
We got to move some stuff around. That's the only problem.
We just got to move the table out a little bit. Yeah, before every show.

Speaker 1 Maybe off days. I don't know.
We'll figure it out. We'll have a regiment.

Speaker 3 PFT, what do you have? My hot seat is the state of Iowa. So we still don't know what's happening in Iowa right now.
They had the caucus last night, which is one of the things.

Speaker 6 I've never understood what's happening.

Speaker 1 It's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 The caucus, as I understand it, is a bunch of people go to their old high school gyms. They hang out.
It's a little bit too hot. There are no snacks.

Speaker 3 Then they kind of select which candidate they want to support.

Speaker 3 Then they go stand in a corner, look across the room at other candidates like a middle school dance, don't get close, and then the people who are undecided, aka the biggest fucking idiots in the entire world, who don't know who to vote for after nine months of having these names shoved down their throat every day, then they stand in a corner themselves and ask to be invited to other corners.

Speaker 1 It's like Model UN for adults, but the stakes are very, very high. And we just decided, we let Iowa decide everything.

Speaker 3 That's a good way to... It's kind of like the BCS, the old BCS committee.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then you've got Mir Pete who claimed victory, kind of like being Texas A ⁇ M, putting up national titles on their stadium. Did you see though?

Speaker 1 He gave a really nice,

Speaker 1 like walked it back a little because he did claim victory.

Speaker 1 And then I think he was on a morning show, and he basically said, well, it's a victory to be, you know, to get this many votes on a campaign that was just started nine months ago.

Speaker 3 Exactly. Nobody knew who he was nine months ago.

Speaker 1 It's a moral victory.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, that's a nice spin zone.

Speaker 3 I actually was saying that Klobuchar should have said that when she, because she was the the first one to come out and speak when all this confusion was going on because we still don't know who won.

Speaker 3 She should have just claimed victory immediately. Right.
Because if you're the first one to watch,

Speaker 1 Klobuchar is, I'm just going to say it. This probably might be out of turn.
That's not an electable name. She sounds like a left-wing Russian

Speaker 1 sniper.

Speaker 3 A left-wing Russian sniper.

Speaker 1 Not left-wing, like, left-wing politically. I'm talking about actually on the ice.
Oh, gotcha. Okay.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 So you would probably like Klobuchar if you respect a guy that's not.

Speaker 1 Can't you just see like Sergey Klobuchar? Big signing for the Blackhawks.

Speaker 3 If you respect a guy that's chugging chocolate syrup, Klobuchar eats her salad with a comb sometimes when she doesn't work around that.

Speaker 3 That's more of a lunatic move than choosing.

Speaker 1 No, that's not a power move. That's a move that you do so no one comes and talks to you.

Speaker 1 Chugging chocolate syrup is a move where you do it to stare down your opponent and they know to

Speaker 1 turn over and let them pet your belly.

Speaker 3 I think saying like, i'm crazy as fuck enough to eat my salad with my own comb right is kind of an intimidating move i would not want to deal with that person that's all i'm saying but she should have just claimed victory she didn't she screwed it so um i don't know what's going on right now but i guess there was a big app mishap and i can't really think of like so people that run elections are usually what in their 60s 70s 80s it's like them and football coaches are the two people that you don't give them an app to make anything better right just give them like they're they're all map pictures.

Speaker 1 You can't test the app? Probably.

Speaker 3 Definitely not. Just give them a pencil behind each of their ears and paper.
But right now, Iowa basically fucked up, and I think that Iowa has lost their going first privileges in the future.

Speaker 1 But no, they still will get it.

Speaker 3 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 You think they're going to take it away?

Speaker 3 I think journalists are going to take it away from them

Speaker 3 and give it to Florida because they'd rather go hang out in Florida.

Speaker 3 You're underestimating. how much journalists dislike being cold.

Speaker 1 No, I understand that. I'm just saying I feel like you can't take that away.
That's something you just can't take away. Iowa gets it.

Speaker 1 Iowa goes eight and five in the Big Ten West, and they get to decide the president every four years.

Speaker 3 Or just put Coach Ferencence in charge of the caucus. That would work.
He'd straighten it all out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And my cool throne is mock drafts. So it is officially mock draft season right now, day after the Super Bowl.
We're heavy into mock draft. Todd McShay is already on mock draft 2.0.

Speaker 3 I have no idea when mock draft 1.8 or 9 happened, but we're on 2.0 right now.

Speaker 1 He says two is better than Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 Well, I'd like to go ahead and trademark this phrase.

Speaker 3 If two is healthy, I just trademarked that phrase. So you're going to hear that probably a million times between now and the draft.

Speaker 3 And it's going to be used to say, well, he's going to go anywhere between number three and number 32. So if two is healthy is officially property of pardon my take.

Speaker 3 Please credit if you end up using it.

Speaker 1 Anytime you think it.

Speaker 3 Also, my other cool throne is Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 3 Because the Jaguars announced that they're going to play two games back-to-back in London this year. Now, you might be thinking, that sucks for Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 It sounds like the Jaguars are moving to London.

Speaker 3 You'd be wrong because Ed Werder reported that what's actually happening is the Jaguars are doing two games back-to-back just so that they can have enough money to totally redo their stadium in Jacksonville to have a better fan experience.

Speaker 3 That's totally going to happen for their home crowd.

Speaker 1 They're not divorced. He's just sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 3 Listen, honey,

Speaker 3 I'm only having sex with this other woman so that she can teach me new ways to not make you come. Right.

Speaker 1 So that was a good thing. Just learning new tips and tricks.
That is, there's nothing worse than when the NFL decides to just move franchises around right in everyone's face.

Speaker 3 It's like, we know what's happening. Two games in a row.
I can't think of a quarterback less suited for British life than Gardner Minch.

Speaker 1 Bring the Chargers to Jacksonville and have the Jaguars and the Chargers play every single game against each other with Phil Rivers. I'm down for that.
That would work.

Speaker 3 On both sides, because he's living in Florida right now.

Speaker 1 Right, right. All right.
My hot seat is my knowledge of rappers.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you know who Smoke Perp is?

Speaker 6 Loosely, but he's probably more in the Liam age bracket.

Speaker 1 Liam, do you know who Smoke Perp is? Yeah, love Perp. Do you love Perp?

Speaker 1 Esketit.

Speaker 1 Eskettit. Yeah, we know Smoke Perp.
Because Adam Shafter said L'Aveon Bell's Catch Me If You Can album release party took place this morning at Miami Nightclub Rockwell.

Speaker 1 Bell walked into that club at 2.30 a.m. with an entourage that included fellow rapper Smoke Purp, and they were seen partying all night at their table next to DJ Booth.
Adam Schaffer tweeted that.

Speaker 1 If you had Adam Schefter tweeting Smoke Perp in 2020, you're a winner.

Speaker 3 What do you think Adam Schefter's autocorrect hit when it popped up sink smoke perp?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but

Speaker 1 he's got a smoke perp. That's heavy drugs, is it not?

Speaker 3 Perp? Perp. Purp is heavy.

Speaker 1 We're talking perp, not the E, not E. Just you.

Speaker 6 Marijuana.

Speaker 3 But isn't that like a smaller purpose?

Speaker 1 But you can also drink the perp.

Speaker 3 dipped in the purple. No,

Speaker 1 he's just smoking. Dipping the perp? Yes.

Speaker 6 He's not drinking any perp.

Speaker 3 Not leaning. He's not sipping syrup.

Speaker 1 Is he chopped and screwed?

Speaker 6 Not according to his name. No.
Smoke perp is just a weed reference.

Speaker 1 Okay. Smoke perp is one of those names where it's like

Speaker 1 a little ghost dog.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you name yourself Smoke Perp, you probably don't even smoke that much. That's like a try-hard move, right? It's like, I bet you Takashi 6ix9ine

Speaker 1 only

Speaker 3 like gets his dick sucked. I don't see him going down on girls.

Speaker 1 Smoke perp. You walk in and smoke perp better have the the fattest blunt.
That's a lot of, I mean, people are definitely expecting things out of smoke perp.

Speaker 1 So smoke perp. Adam Schefter.
I'd like to see Adam Schefter smoke perp. Could you imagine? Adam Schefter, if you would like to smoke perp and come on our show, we will do a show with you smoking perp.

Speaker 1 And it will be a major, major hit.

Speaker 1 All right, my cool throne

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 one, Andy Reid's wife, because Andy Reid slept with her instead of the trophy. So good to know that you're still the number one in the relationship.
Love that, Andy. He said

Speaker 1 he spent the night with his trophy wife instead of the trophy.

Speaker 3 Love thinking about Andy Reid getting those cheeks.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of soaking. That's a lot of soaking.

Speaker 1 And then my other cool throne is Mark D'Antonio, because he has stepped down. He's retiring as Michigan State head coach.
And

Speaker 1 it's a cool throne because

Speaker 1 Just in the nick of time, he's stepping away from Michigan State because his former recruiting director, Curtis Blackwell, filed claims that D'Antonio committed NCAA recruiting violations as part of an ongoing lawsuit.

Speaker 1 That happened yesterday.

Speaker 3 So, but I don't like what you're doing here because you're

Speaker 3 smart by him. You're being part of the gotcha journalism establishment in America.
If you read his statement, he is stepping down to spend more time with his family.

Speaker 3 It has nothing to do with the fact that he was accused of numerous credible violations yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yes, and also two weeks after he got paid $4.3 million bonus that he doesn't have to give back.

Speaker 3 Again, he wants to see his kids literally.

Speaker 1 Smart, smart. So, yeah, good job, Mark D'Antonio.
You're on the cool throne.

Speaker 1 They cannot get you now.

Speaker 3 Mark Clantonio. You're out.
You're out. You're good.
I'm actually glad that he's retiring because I'm sick of confusing him with Mike D'Antoni. Yeah.
That was too much having

Speaker 3 a lot of people. Two Italians with the same.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Very, very confusing.
But yeah, he's good. He's in the clear.
I love when coaches just leave and just leave a pile of shit for their program.

Speaker 1 We call that the Pete Carroll. Pete Carol.
Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll got out of the Scott for the camera.
Hey, I'm out.

Speaker 3 So he's just hoping that Coach O will come to Michigan State in like six years. Yeah.
Almost bail them out. Actually,

Speaker 3 go home. Nick Sabin,

Speaker 3 how bad would it be if Urban Meyer went there?

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be so funny. Getting beat the fuck out of Michigan from the other angle.
Yes.

Speaker 3 You know, the thought has occurred to him in the last six hours.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I think it's Luke Fickles going there, coach of Cincinnati, who was coach of Ohio State.
So maybe that's, maybe that will be the way that Michigan State gets back on top of Big Brother.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Big Brother. Which one's Big Brother now?

Speaker 1 Big Brothers, Michigan.

Speaker 3 Still?

Speaker 1 That's what they say. I don't know.
I don't know. They feel like they're twins.
No, that time that they won the national championship by beating the YMCA of Detroit in 1902 still counts.

Speaker 3 Yeah, didn't they teach

Speaker 1 the Red Cross

Speaker 1 how to play? No, they invited forward pass. They invited schools to come play football and teach them how to play football, then beat them by like 70 and put it on the record books.
It's a great gig.

Speaker 1 Honestly, it's a great gig.

Speaker 3 Listen, that's kind of what Wisconsin had to see to Bernie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if Wisconsin had the foresight to do that, I'd be talking about those national championships.

Speaker 3 Yes. On a personal note, I don't know what category we need to put this under, but

Speaker 3 I'm feeling a little directionless after NFL season's over. Okay.

Speaker 1 Don't you have the XFL?

Speaker 3 Well, I do have the XFL, and we'll discuss that next week. I'll say it's good.
You'll say it's bad.

Speaker 1 Or you'll be honest.

Speaker 1 I never said it was you. Yeah, I said it was.

Speaker 3 But I feel like every offseason, what I like to do every offseason is get a new hobby. Like improve myself, better myself in all this time that I have.

Speaker 1 It sounds like a fire fest.

Speaker 3 It sounds like a fire fest.

Speaker 1 You could watch basketball. You could watch your Miami Heat.

Speaker 3 I could watch my Miami Heat. I could also,

Speaker 3 I've been meaning to get that Gwyneth Paltrow show, The Goop, about her vagina.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the vagina candle she makes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, it's about, it seems like it's a bunch of stuff that wasn't well written enough to go on like a closed Facebook group.

Speaker 3 So Netflix said, hey, let's just give you a TV show where you put out all your junk science. It seems interesting to me.
So I feel like maybe, I don't know, maybe I'll get into the goop. That works.

Speaker 1 This offseason. Let's goop.
Want to goop it up? You want to goop it up? Yeah, let's be a goop podcast. We'll rehash the goop.

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Mark Cuban.

Speaker 1 Okay, there we go.

Speaker 7 Let's go.

Speaker 1 It's the boss man. What's up? We now welcome on Mark Cuban, a guest we have been lusting after for many years.

Speaker 7 I was one of your first guests way back in the day.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. This is the video.
So you've, I've wanted you to come on part of my take for a very long time. There you go.
Yeah, that's true. And it so happens we are in Miami.

Speaker 1 We're taping this right before the Super Bowl. The Penn National deal gets announced, and and a lot of congratulations come my way.
All of a sudden, I look at my email.

Speaker 1 I have an email from Mark Cuban replying to an email asking him to come on pardon my take from 2017. Yep.
That's a power move to just reply to a three-year-old like wasteland, you know, threat.

Speaker 7 Sometimes you got to take your time to get it right.

Speaker 1 So you replied and we have to, we're going to talk about everything, but we have to at least address this at first because you had an opportunity not only to invest in my brain, but to have half of barstool for free yeah any buyer's remorse no

Speaker 7 because you wouldn't have even had to buy it no because who needs the money i got plenty of that

Speaker 7 you don't want 250 million dollars it was 160 don't exaggerate oh you looked at the deal you looked at the deal and you don't own it all so yeah i'm a shark tech motherfucker

Speaker 1 you got it so wait so did you i mean Do you remember when we came in and

Speaker 7 think about it was one of the best, I mean, that was one of the best skits ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Think about it.
Well, it was real. Oh, yeah.
Think about it. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, well, think about it.

Speaker 1 Trademarking. Think about it.
Yeah. Oh, okay.
Because now you're thinking about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, brilliant money, guys. Now I'm using your energy.
Now I've been thinking about it for years. Right.

Speaker 1 So you owe me money.

Speaker 7 I owe you money, but you didn't trademark it. Think about it.
But I did. You did.

Speaker 3 Of course you did. I was actually very upset with that video because Big Cat, this is before I worked with Barris, but Big Cat hit me up.

Speaker 3 He's like, hey, I'm about to sit down with Mark Cube, and we're going to pitch him some stuff. Do you have any ideas?

Speaker 3 I gave him a great idea, which we've subsequently pitched to to Rob Gronkowski, who loves it. Yep, but you shot it down in about half a second.
It's called protein.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 3 Brotein, it's an after-workout drink. It's got alcohol in it.

Speaker 7 Still sucks.

Speaker 3 It's got caffeine.

Speaker 3 It's got caffeine in it.

Speaker 3 So what you do, you hit the gym, you work out, you drink your protein, you get your alcohol because you're ready to go out for the night, and you've got caffeine in it to get you going for the rest of the evening.

Speaker 3 So I feel like it's an all-in-one drink.

Speaker 7 So it's four loco with protein.

Speaker 3 That's exactly what I'm going for.

Speaker 7 And college kids would eat eat that up and i was a little bit offended that you uh that you shot it down so quickly deal with it if you had the bell you would have hit it you would hit the bell again i would hit the metal bell that you were just dang it's just so easy right because not everybody likes the same kind of alcohol and so you can go for loco if you just want the buzz and the buzz right or you just whatever kind you like like i've i've invested in this company called bsb um Brown Sugar Bourbon.

Speaker 7 And the shit's amazing, right? It's going to take over. It's, you know, it's just good.
Check it out.

Speaker 7 And so I'd want my bourbon in there gronk might want something else you might want vodka vodka probably goes better with protein depending on what flavor protein right and then your caffeine that goes with it there's just so many variables you just see when it comes to mixing caffeine and alcohol you have to be precise there's probably some regulations that come in so dangerous so i just pay off those motherfuckers okay i got you so You do you, the thing that makes me happy, though, is that you have been thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I think about it. Think about it has been rattling in that

Speaker 1 for five years now five years think about it god damn it that's actually better than you buying us so do you regret though not investing in my brain because i just i remember i was having some i was gambling a little too much and i i needed the cash i need to get liquid fast and i was going to give you 10 of all future earnings for one million dollars yep do you regret that no that was a mistake though no Because you think I would have just been lazy after you gave me the money?

Speaker 7 Yeah, sometimes, you know,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you said, you want liquidity.

Speaker 7 I wanted you to starve and struggle.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And see, look where you got you. Yeah.
Right. See, because if your back's not against the wall, when shit's not, you learn the most when shit ain't working.
Right. Right.

Speaker 7 And you have to hustle the most when you think it's the darkest. And that's where the best entrepreneurs learn the best lessons.
So you owe me money for saving your ass.

Speaker 1 It's true. And that video was very funny because Dave,

Speaker 1 you know, pitched Barstool to you. You boiled it down to you guys are in the hard dick business.
And you told Dave, you're like,

Speaker 1 you have a great product, but you work too hard and you need to find a way to make it easier to make it bigger.

Speaker 1 And I remember, Dave, when you said, no, I'm not investing, Dave walked out and he was like, Mark Cuban likes us. I just got to keep grinding.
And it's like, no, it's the opposite what he said.

Speaker 1 And finally, we've realized, you know, we've hired 215 people. Congrats, man.
A ton of, you know, staff and everyone.

Speaker 7 Every step along the way, man, I have my first company. I was 24 at the time and we had $84,000 in the bank.
And this lady, Renee Hardy, right?

Speaker 7 We had it all set up.

Speaker 7 I I thought I used everything I learned at Indiana Business School, and I'm like, okay, for our accounts payable, we print out the checks to the vendor and we just give it to Renee.

Speaker 7 And Renee is going to put it into a little see-through envelope, lick them, mail them, right?

Speaker 7 Fucking Renee Hardy takes it to a fucking old typewriter, whites it out, puts her name on it, takes it to the bank. Bank cashes the shit, right?

Speaker 7 So within one day, we went from having $84,000 in the bank to having $2,000 in the bank. And all these unpaid vendors who were pissed, right, that we had to work through.
It was horrible. I mean,

Speaker 7 it was fucked up, but best thing that ever happened to us because it made us get our shit together.

Speaker 7 And then, you know, that company turned into a $30 million company that turned into another company that turned into streaming, that turned into the maths.

Speaker 7 And so you got to, you know, sometimes your shit's got to be against the wall to really get it going.

Speaker 1 Right. And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 It's nice she left you two grand, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was polite.

Speaker 7 Fucking bank, right? So I go to the bank and I'm showing him the checks. And like,

Speaker 7 this lady whited out her name, typed it in, and you cashed it. This old Texan dude goes, motherfucker, you ain't got a pot to piss in.
Do what you got to do.

Speaker 1 I'm 24 years old, and there's this head of the bank.

Speaker 7 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 God damn, right?

Speaker 3 I feel like there should be some regulation that should force banks not to take checks with whiteout on them.

Speaker 7 Well, you know what? That's why you never see that anymore because we changed the law. Right.

Speaker 1 There you go. Well, you were like Frank Avingdale.
A long time ago. Yeah.

Speaker 7 A long time ago.

Speaker 3 That's a crazy story.

Speaker 3 You and I are not so dissimilar. You might not believe me right off the bat, but you got your start.
You sold software, right? Yeah. I was first a used dog salesman, then I sold software.

Speaker 1 Same thing.

Speaker 3 Chris, you sold used dogs too?

Speaker 7 No, just software, dogs.

Speaker 3 Okay, whatever. Yeah, whatever you can get your hands on, you sell.

Speaker 3 Now I'm doing this. Now I've worked my way up to the point where I own a lacrosse team with Big Cat.
Cool. We own a

Speaker 3 basketball team in New Zealand, the New Zealand Breakers, in the NBL.

Speaker 7 Wait, is that with Sean Marion?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's our business partner.

Speaker 3 And And my ultimate goal is to own the Washington Redskins.

Speaker 3 So I need some advice from you about how to get from where I'm at right now to get to my ultimate dream, which is taking that team from Dan Snyder.

Speaker 7 You got to find an angle, right? Because

Speaker 7 you've got your audience. You've got your partner now.
But now that you sold it, right, you need something to get the cash to do that because it ain't going to be cheap, right?

Speaker 7 The biggest fortunes are made with two things.

Speaker 7 Something that somebody does where everybody says, fuck, why didn't I think of that? And then you need a little bit of luck.

Speaker 7 Like if we would come up with streaming, but the internet stock market wasn't happening, you wouldn't know who I was.

Speaker 7 I'd have a nice little streaming business, but I made a shitload of money because I was lucky the stock market was happening.

Speaker 7 So you got to have the right angle where everybody looks at it and goes. Damn, if you come on Shark Tank, those are the best deals.
Like I wish I had thought of that.

Speaker 1 What about this?

Speaker 3 Uber, but with a dog in the car. So the Uber picks you up and there's a puppy that you also have to be capable of doing these things.

Speaker 1 And so I still use dogs. I've got them.

Speaker 3 I've got the connections with all my vendors back in the day. So I can see that.

Speaker 1 You go ahead and try.

Speaker 7 You go ahead and try. And maybe Daniel Snyder needs a dog in his car and you guys will work out.

Speaker 3 And then the dog kills Dan Snyder and then I take his team for him.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 There it is. You just said something that's interesting, though, because I feel like guys in your spot, and maybe not everyone, but a lot of people in your spot who have had a ton of success,

Speaker 1 they will not acknowledge the luck factor. Oh, fuck yeah.
And luck, I mean, how much do you think luck played a part in everything that you built?

Speaker 7 I was rich before I got super rich, right? I sold my company. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, cool thing to be able to say. There's a big difference, right?

Speaker 7 There's one, like, I sold my first company. I was 29, bought a lifetime pass in American Airlines, partied like a roster.
You know, I could just travel anywhere. It cost me nothing, right?

Speaker 7 Just my goal was to get as fucked up with as many people as I possibly could around the world. And I was really good at it.

Speaker 7 And then I started trading stocks, made $20-some million dollars doing that, started hedge funds, sold that.

Speaker 7 Then my buddy from Indiana came back, and it was like the internet thing was starting to happen. And this was 95, and Netscape had just gone public.

Speaker 7 And it was just like, wow, this whole internet stock market took off. And I never thought we'd go public, right? We were just going to run a good business and see where it took us.

Speaker 7 But I mean, that's where it really, really happened. And I remember, I'll never forget,

Speaker 7 we went public in July, it was July 18th, 1998.

Speaker 7 And I remember saying to my partner, Ty Wagner, that if the stock gets to 300, right, it was at 50 something. Stock gets to 300.
I'm a billionaire. He goes, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 7 There's just no possible way. And then the internet stock market just goes bananas.
It goes berserk.

Speaker 7 And I remember sitting in my house in the second bedroom where I had a PC set up and it was getting close, right? Because it was going nuts. Hitting F5, the refresh key, right?

Speaker 7 On old, and there it was. I'm sitting like basically naked on this chair, hitting this thing going boom boom boom boom boom until it hit it bounced around did my little billionaire dance song

Speaker 7 it was insane man

Speaker 7 you're super rich when you're a billionaire yeah that's no it'd be no it's lower than that trust me

Speaker 7 but still it's just i never would have imagined a billion years man if you would have told me growing up in pittsburgh or when i was at i you oh yeah you're gonna be a billionaire i would like smoke some more crack bro right

Speaker 7 but you know it does take luck i don't care what anybody says you remember lucky sperm club you you know you know you came along at the right time. Michael Jordan came along at the right time, right?

Speaker 7 Cable television was just starting to take off, satellite TV, that built his brand. He was the guy we watched.
But if cable television had been 10 years later,

Speaker 7 he could have been David Thompson.

Speaker 1 Well, he was better than that. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, no, in terms of the icon and the shoes and the branding.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the branding and the recognition and all that stuff, right? You guys, if you were 10 years earlier, it's a whole different way, I guess.

Speaker 1 I absolutely agree with not just Barstool as a whole, but also this podcast. If we started it today, we would not get to like number one.
Like, we wouldn't, because it's, it's a lot more flooded. Yep.

Speaker 1 There's a lot more competition. We're right place, right time.
So I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Luck matters. Luck is a huge thing, yeah.

Speaker 3 But also, I feel like you can control luck a little bit if you, if you maintain the same habits.

Speaker 3 You know, like eventually, if you keep working at something, if you have some good ideas, you're going to get unlucky on a ton of them. But luck is eventually.

Speaker 7 Look, Landon, it doesn't matter how many times you fuck up. You only got to be right once.
Yeah. right.
Then everybody tells you how lucky you are. Right.
You know, it's just part of it.

Speaker 7 I mean, I always tell people, life is half random.

Speaker 1 That's so random.

Speaker 3 I just broke my brain.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to do the statistics on

Speaker 1 half random.

Speaker 7 Half random, right?

Speaker 1 There's just

Speaker 7 you can control, and you have no chance of randomly.

Speaker 1 We were staying at a hotel right near where you are. We were

Speaker 7 walking down the street.

Speaker 1 Right. That's random.
That is random. Okay.
I like that.

Speaker 3 How many random emails do you respond to?

Speaker 1 Because you feel like you respond to everything on your email.

Speaker 7 No, not everything anymore. There's too many now.
Yeah, since Charge Tank is, yeah, I used to be able to. I can't anymore.

Speaker 7 I don't know. It just depends.
I'll read the first paragraph, and if I'm not into it, delete.

Speaker 1 I remember when we were doing the video, I think it was 2014, I was somehow included on an email that Mark was included on. And I was like, fuck this.
I'm just going to email Mark Cuban.

Speaker 1 And you responded. I was like, what the hell?

Speaker 7 You probably responded like in a second. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Because I probably don't have that email.
I take it from

Speaker 1 a big email where it was like coordinating what time we were doing it. And I was like, I'm going to shoot my shot here.

Speaker 7 Why not?

Speaker 1 All right. So I just thought of a quote that you had that always struck me about the NFL.

Speaker 1 You said, pigs get fat, hogs go to slaughter.

Speaker 7 Yeah, go to slaughter.

Speaker 1 Okay. Now we're sitting here.
Gambling changed a lot of that.

Speaker 7 Gambling changed a lot of that. A lot of that.

Speaker 1 A lot of that. But let's flip it.
The NBA ratings have taken a little bit of a dip. Totally different.
Right? Totally different. I mean,

Speaker 7 so people in your audience, cord cutters, right? If your show's show's on television, ain't nobody watching it, right? Because it's an older audience on traditional TV.

Speaker 7 And that's what's happened to us. We've got a much younger audience.
If you look at the average viewer's age for the NFL, it's like Fox Network, right? It's like 67 years old.

Speaker 7 I don't know exactly, right? It's in the 60s. Whereas with the NBA, it's a much younger audience that cuts the cord.
So if you look at our streaming numbers, they're really, really good.

Speaker 7 If you look at our social media numbers that we're starting to get paid more and more for, they're really, really, really good.

Speaker 7 And so, yeah, our numbers are down primarily on TNT, which doesn't have as much carriage and as much link to younger audiences or even middle-aged audiences as ESPN does.

Speaker 7 So our ESPN games are doing okay, right? They're flat to up a little bit, and with Zion being back and everything, they're going to be up even more.

Speaker 7 But yeah, on TNT, it's not as good. And the NFL is all on broadcast, right? And that makes a big difference.

Speaker 1 Do you think there's anything so I've heard a million different theories,

Speaker 1 you know, players moving around where the guys don't stay with the same team?

Speaker 7 I mean, look at the NFL. Nobody stays.
Other than the quarterback, nobody stays.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 1 The, you know, the competitive, you know, the Warriors and LeBron obviously have shared titles. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, because we have so many Warriors games scheduled, right? We had Warriors games and Pelicans games scheduled for Zion, and they're all hurt.

Speaker 1 Right. That's going to fuck you up.
But are you nervous at all about the length of the season? No.

Speaker 1 You're not nervous about like you flip on an NBA game because I watch the NBA. I watch pretty much every Bulls game.

Speaker 1 But if I flip on a random game on a Tuesday night in February, there are times when you can tell it's not always max effort.

Speaker 1 And also it doesn't feel, the NFL always feels life or death because it's 17 weeks.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but it is and it isn't right when you're when teams are three and three, right? When the Bears start off two and five and you play. Yeah, well, you started that panic.
You know, it's over.

Speaker 1 Right. No, still in the hunt.

Speaker 7 Okay, depending on what division you're in, right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 It's not looking good. Yes.
Right. There's a chance, but, you know, it's just not.
The thing about football on TV, A, it's on broadcast. So that's important because everybody can get it, right?

Speaker 7 Streaming, whatever, anybody, it doesn't cost you anything. Two, you only have to watch 12 minutes.

Speaker 7 You can do anything else you want during an NFL game. You can write a novel.
You know, you can go on a date, you know, and it doesn't matter because there's only 12 minutes of action.

Speaker 7 In an NBA game, it's a little bit harder because you're watching 48 minutes of action.

Speaker 7 There's always something going on right and NHL doesn't translate well to TV but it's got it kind of got the same thing it's 60 minutes of action right and so to stay with the whole game it's a commitment the NFL has no commitment to watch you're you're you're watching your fantasy league more than you're what you know because you got all that downtime and all your all that dead time that's the difference so I'll give you an example if

Speaker 7 an NFL an NBA game was 20 minutes right and we played 150 of them

Speaker 7 You wouldn't care, right? Because those 20 minutes are going to be jacked the whole time. Right.
Right. So it's not the number of games, right? It's the fact that it's a 48-minute commitment.

Speaker 7 Now, if we, so rather than shorter games, should we consider 40 minutes? I don't know. That's something to consider.
I think the guys would be upset because it changes playing time and all that.

Speaker 7 It changes historical history.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And stats and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 And so it still works. And part two to that is when you go to a game.
Like if you look at the NFL and I haven't seen their latest attendance, but it hasn't been great.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 Right. Because going to a game is a full commitment.
Yeah. You go to an NBA game, it's a blast.

Speaker 1 It is. And it's two and a half hours.
It's true.

Speaker 7 And it's not, and it's two and a half hours and it's not bad, right? And it's something going on all the time.

Speaker 1 So how much do you watch like the growth, the you know, decline of every major sport? How much are you tuning in? It's my business.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm very tuned in. I pay attention to all that stuff, right? Because it's my business.
And, you know, I always try to find angles and

Speaker 7 different ways of combining information and looking at different ways.

Speaker 7 So, you know, having a conversation like this, it's not like everybody's writing that the NFL is 12 minutes of action and the NBA is 48 minutes of action right they're saying they just look at the total viewers total viewers isn't really a reflection of anything right no one talks about the average age of the audience no one talks about the minutes consumed in social media you know there's you don't look on social media on Instagram and see a shitload of football no it's true right you know you don't see baseball You don't see hockey.

Speaker 7 What do you see in all your highlights?

Speaker 7 You watch more high school highlights on

Speaker 7 Dunkademics and Ball is Life and everything else than you watch.

Speaker 3 multiple websites. What's that? Dunk Ademics and Ball is Life.
Yeah. Those are real websites.

Speaker 1 Ball is Life. They sound,

Speaker 1 right? Right. Yeah, they're Instagram.

Speaker 7 And I don't know if they got websites, but they're on Instagram, right? Right.

Speaker 3 It's interesting that you brought up Major League Baseball because they are very strict about what you can post on social media.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're fucked.

Speaker 3 Like, you can't take a highlight of your screen. You can't record it and post it.

Speaker 3 They'll shut your account down because their logic is they want to monetize all those views through their own proprietary feeds. The NBA is the exact opposite.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And so why is that strategy worked out for you guys? Like, why is Major League Baseball, do you think, so dead set about doing it their way?

Speaker 7 Major League Baseball, I mean, Rob Bowman, the new guy, is a little bit better, but when they had Bud Seal, like he was, it was 1927 every year, right?

Speaker 7 He had no clue about what was going on, besides the fact he wanted to keep me out, and I think he's an idiot.

Speaker 1 That blessed me off. Yeah, well, I'm kind of happy now.

Speaker 3 Free Cubes, hashtag free cubes.

Speaker 7 Yeah, free cubes, right?

Speaker 7 And the Rangers, and before the parts.

Speaker 7 But in any event, like, so with the NBA, we're able to monetize that because we do licensing deal, licensing deals with Twitter and we do them with Instagram and all platforms, right?

Speaker 7 And those numbers are going up because they're making money off of advertising and we'll make more and more and more money from that.

Speaker 7 But on more importantly, like all of our players, you know who they are.

Speaker 7 Not just the big names like LeBron and everything, but you know, they come in, now they're coming into the game because of their social media followings as brands.

Speaker 7 Zion, you know, everybody was big name before he even got there, right?

Speaker 7 And kids have their own, you know, they'll have 200, 300, a million social media followers before they even get to college, right?

Speaker 7 And then by the time they get out of college, we know who these guys were, you know, because they're dunking or whatever. And so by the time they get to the NBA, they have a following.

Speaker 7 And the difference between the NBA and all these other leagues is our players drive the league. We give them the ability to talk about themselves, about anything they want.

Speaker 7 It could be political, it could be game it could be whatever you want and that builds a following and that connects fans add to that 2k right if you're playing 2k and you're building your teams right you know almost every player in the league right right if you pick the mavs you know one through 15.

Speaker 7 if you bounce around because you're friends you know one through 15 of any team you're working with right

Speaker 7 who's playing mlb right who's playing nhl who's playing even nfl you know madden or whatever madden's still big it's big but you don't know all the players yeah right There's 53.

Speaker 7 You're playing, you know, whoever, and you don't even know who's playing. Yeah.
And so you know our guys. They drive our following.

Speaker 7 And so that's why when you look at the ratings, we're building basketball fans, right?

Speaker 7 Unfortunately, because they don't get traditional cable and television and satellite, we're not converting them.

Speaker 7 We're not keeping as many of them because they're cutting the cord, but they're not becoming NBA fans. Whereas you looked at the NFL, if they lose people from football, from TV,

Speaker 7 I mean, they got fantasy, and you got gambling.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you got gambling,

Speaker 7 but there's, there's, you don't know. I mean, I was at a thing earlier today, and I'm meeting all these football players that I knew by name.
I had no idea who they were by looking at them. Right.

Speaker 3 So it sounds like you're making the bargain that it's worth it to get people invested in your product. You might not be monetizing it as efficiently as you could right now,

Speaker 3 but it's better to have those people

Speaker 3 as fans for life, and you'll figure out how to gradually

Speaker 7 you always want to disrupt yourself.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Ooh.
Right. That's cool.

Speaker 7 Before you let somebody else do it for you. You know,

Speaker 1 big bowl of chili. Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 And so you got to understand what's coming your way. And we know social is always going to be evolving, you know, and we're going to be right there.

Speaker 7 And we're going to connect the fans however they want to connect. The NFL, again, if you look at the average age, television keeps on getting older.

Speaker 7 You know, now they still have a bigger audience than the 1849, right? Which is like the TV money pot than we do, a much bigger audience, but it's getting closer.

Speaker 7 I'll give you a perfect example, not to get too much in the weeds, but like Shark Tank. Shark Tank used in for 18 to 49, we used to try to pull a 2.0 five, six years ago.

Speaker 7 Now we pull a 0.8, which is good for broadcast television.

Speaker 7 The NBA and ESPN, it used to be that the NBA and ESPN, you know, pulling 2 million people was good, and we'd pull a 0.8, you know, maybe a 1.2 in the demo 18 to 49 it would never be conceivable that a broadcast or a game on cable would match what shark tank would do never in a million years now we both do 0.8s 0.7s 0.8s right so we're holding on to audiences better at the NBA particularly younger audiences than even broadcast television is so even though it might not you know when you look at total viewers That's distortion.

Speaker 7 It's not telling the whole story.

Speaker 1 So you bring up Shark Tank. Let's talk a little Shark Tank.
Sure.

Speaker 7 And we're moving to, when's this going to air? When are you putting it up?

Speaker 1 Probably in the next couple of weeks. I know you have it coming, the new season's coming out, right?

Speaker 7 Well, no, we're moving to Friday night. So we're on season 10, season 11 right now.
And we've been on Sunday nights. And starting the end of February, we will be on.

Speaker 7 We've been on Sunday nights, and starting the end of February, we'll be on Friday nights on ABC.

Speaker 1 Perfect. And Hulu.
Perfect. All right.
So we'll put this out right around then. Appreciate it.
Can check it out then. So who's your biggest rival?

Speaker 7 Nobody.

Speaker 1 Come on. For real.
Come on. Who do you think it is?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 when Robert cries, that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 Because he really pulls at everyone's heartstrings. He's like, I was, you know, I mop the floors at my dad's factory and that whole thing.

Speaker 1 That one always gets, like, if I was standing there and he started doing that, I'd be like, yeah, I want to work for you.

Speaker 1 Kevin, obviously, he does.

Speaker 1 Kevin is just

Speaker 1 literally every single deal, he just wants to license it and take no risk.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then royalties, and you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, but I would actually say, like, Lori might be your biggest friend.

Speaker 7 Lori can be. Lori can can be for retail products.
Right. Right.
Because she likes to sell all the tchotchkis and all the stuff, right? And she's better at it than me.

Speaker 7 So I typically, that's not my gig. And so

Speaker 7 she is better than me at those.

Speaker 3 So I like your product.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I love her and your name is. It's a hero.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 But then she gets so syrupy. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 Well, let me rephrase Big Cat's question. Who would say that you're their biggest rival? Who?

Speaker 7 All of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All of them. You against the world?

Speaker 7 Me against the world. Come on, baby.

Speaker 1 How much when someone walks in, are you, like if their product sucks, but you can see it in their eyes, you're like, I'm just going to invest because I know the person?

Speaker 7 It depends on the bigger picture. Like, if I send in a message, so if it's a veteran, if it's a woman entrepreneur,

Speaker 7 if it's someone from my hometown, Pittsburgh or Indiana, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 7 But I have to really see something in them. Like they're a great entrepreneur, but the product just needs massaged a little bit, right?

Speaker 7 Or the service needs just massaged a little bit, then I'll go for it, right?

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 if it's a great entrepreneur, but I just don't see the product, I don't get it, then it's not going to matter.

Speaker 1 So you've never been like, throw the product out, give me you?

Speaker 7 One time. One time.
The guy who came out with I Want to Draw a Cat For You.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I remember that guy. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 And so that was the only time. And one other, two times.

Speaker 7 The other time was Stefan, what the fuck is Tower Paddleboards, which is now Tower e-bike, right?

Speaker 7 Because they were really, both of them, this was nine years ago for one and seven years for another, they were both really good at SEO when SEO really mattered.

Speaker 7 So it didn't matter what the product was, they knew how to sell. And so that's why I invested in both.
And I've made, you know, I want to draw a cap for you. I made like 50 grand and then he got out.

Speaker 7 But I've made millions off of tower paddleboards. Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's cool.

Speaker 3 Has there ever been anybody that walked in the door and like just straight up judging a book by its cover, being like, nope, I'm out. Oh, yeah.
Like just possibly.

Speaker 7 So here's the secret behind the scenes right so i've done so many deals the hard part isn't saying yes to a deal the hard part is just saying no because i'm so tired of them right and so you all of us when they walk in if it doesn't immediately catch our attention it's like how am i going to go out right so you're not even thinking about okay what do i think about this all you're doing is thinking to yourself how the hell do i go out and sound smart right and so i'm listening for things to come up with reasons to go out and then every now and then um i'll go out and somebody will say something or they'll say something i didn't expect and then you know if i like it i'll go back in.

Speaker 3 I just realized that's what you did to me for protein.

Speaker 3 You were listening and you're like, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna steer away from this because there are too many options that I'm gonna list different types of liquors and overload them with information as I bow out gracefully.

Speaker 3 Right. So yeah, you executed that perfectly.

Speaker 7 I'm gonna show you because my skill, like my greatest skill is being able to look at a business and know exactly how it works and what would make it successful.

Speaker 7 And so protein, you know exactly what's going to be involved. And I can tell you in two seconds what you're going to have to do to make it work or what your challenges are going to be.

Speaker 7 And that's what I'm able to do with pretty much any kind of business.

Speaker 1 What about gift shirts? I pitched that to you six years ago.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I remember that pitch. Yeah.
That's how memorable it was.

Speaker 1 That one. No.
That one.

Speaker 1 Science hadn't caught up to my brain yet. I think we're finally there.

Speaker 3 I saw a gift hat the other day.

Speaker 1 Shirts that just have gifts, moving gifts on the shirt.

Speaker 7 You wouldn't wear that. Gifts as a GIS.

Speaker 1 Gift gifts, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I've seen a bunch. We actually had some on Shark Tank for those.

Speaker 1 And I told you six years ago it was coming. Yeah.
So now you really think, like, hey, this guy maybe not be so crazy, huh?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't see you quitting your job to go sell him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably not. Probably not.

Speaker 3 But that was a good idea.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 3 It's still a good idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, and the Detroit one, the...

Speaker 1 What was it called? What?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, not the Frambulance. The one where it was basically sell...

Speaker 3 Gyms in an airport.

Speaker 1 Plots of... No, it was dentist on an airplane.

Speaker 7 Dentist on an airplane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like what you hate traveling. You hate going to dentist.
Dentist chair on an airplane. Kill two birds with one stone.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't know about the economics there.

Speaker 1 That makes sense, right?

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 7 Dentist, I mean, you just make the whole thing a medical office, right?

Speaker 1 Perfect. Go to the doctor.

Speaker 7 Do you agree? Yeah, gynecologist, urologist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get it all.

Speaker 3 Or urologists call it the cockpit.

Speaker 1 The cockpit and voice. See how quick you are? What? Now

Speaker 1 we got selling it. The other was

Speaker 1 driving. Oh, yeah, we have more waters.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 driving with a treadmill in the back of a truck so while you're going to your commute, you can work out.

Speaker 7 I like the treadmill on the plane better.

Speaker 1 Okay, I do that.

Speaker 3 Gym airports, I think there's some money to be made there.

Speaker 7 Also, just people tried that. Some have worked, some haven't.

Speaker 3 What about Uber, but it's like a U-Haul truck, and it's got bed in the back, and that way people can get a U-Haul and they can go have sex instead of getting a hotel room.

Speaker 7 It's cheaper just to get a Chevy van, just like rent a van, or just, you know.

Speaker 3 It's true, but maybe you want to be driven around on a bumpy road, use some of the motion of the car.

Speaker 3 We're just spitballing here.

Speaker 7 We're still getting an old-ass 1994 Lincoln

Speaker 7 limousine.

Speaker 3 Yeah, really bad struts on it. Yeah.
Bad shock absorbers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Luca?

Speaker 7 10,000.

Speaker 1 And how much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Dirk? 10,000. No, you got it.

Speaker 7 Same. Same.
One's just the elder brother, that's just family, right?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. They're both in their prime,

Speaker 1 one of them is going to die. Either they both die

Speaker 1 or you have to save one and the other. I'll put it a different way.

Speaker 7 The advantage Luca has right now over what Dirk had is that Luca can bring the ball up.

Speaker 7 So Luca can take the ball out of him, get the ball inbounded to him, and just go coast to coast, right, and take it from there. Dirk, that wasn't Dirk's game.

Speaker 7 Now, Dirk's a far better shooter, so if you have a great point guard with Dirk, you know, then you, like when you had Jason Kidd, or like a Steve Nash. It was Nashi, right? Right.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's still painful.

Speaker 1 Whoops. But yeah, whoops.
It was.

Speaker 7 Worst deal I've ever made. Worst mistake I ever made at the maps.
But

Speaker 7 it just depends, right? I mean, Dirk, best seven-foot shooter ever in the game, but someone had to get him the ball. Right.
And when we didn't have a good point guard, we weren't very good.

Speaker 1 Right, right. And Luke is still good.

Speaker 7 Luca is still going to get a lot better. He's still not a great shooter.
Yes.

Speaker 1 It's kind of bullshit that you went from Dirk to Luca.

Speaker 7 Look, there were three painful motherfucking years in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you were tanking. You got fined for it, right? I know, I know, yeah.
Yeah, it makes it even more painful. Yeah, absolutely worth it.
Absolutely. Stupid as shit.

Speaker 1 You think it's stupid that you can't tank? Like, do you think there's a fix to that?

Speaker 7 No, that I got fined for it.

Speaker 3 I think you just don't like being told what to do.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 You figured that out?

Speaker 1 But you've calmed down. Your problem isn't like you have to.
I've gotten calmed down. People have gotten used to me.

Speaker 1 You think that's what it is?

Speaker 7 Yeah, they've gotten used to me. Now, like, I was the only owner that would stand up and talk shit, talk about refs, or at a game, beat.
Like, now Michael Jordan sits right next to their bench, right?

Speaker 7 And, like, you know, the owners, the younger owners are people more into it, they're all, you know, doing the same shit I was doing. Right.

Speaker 7 And even when I say shit now, they don't even find me like they would have in the past because it's like they know it only helps the cause.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, that's Mark P.

Speaker 3 Mark.

Speaker 3 Do you guys have like an email thread amongst the owners?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 No? No. Have you gotten an email from Dan Gilbert in Comic Sans?

Speaker 7 Yes. And hey.
Shout out to Dan. I mean, he had the stroke.
He's supposedly getting a lot better. Oh, that's right.
Yeah. Yeah, that's my guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Get well, Dan.

Speaker 1 Speaking of a guy that's not your guy, where are you at with Broussard?

Speaker 1 Oh, who? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 Craig? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Oh, Chris. Craig Broussard worked for me at my first company.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Craig Broussard, you know, he worked for me at Micro Solutions, my first company. I stole him.
Little, this is the truth.

Speaker 7 He did programming for a porn company, and we wanted to upgrade our e-commerce and get our networking better. Who knows more about networking than

Speaker 1 coming out of for a porn company?

Speaker 3 I actually think that that's where a lot of technological innovations come from is the porn industry.

Speaker 7 Absolutely. VR.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've never tried that.

Speaker 3 That's true. I haven't tried it yet.

Speaker 1 It's on my goggles.

Speaker 1 You look like a man that's tried VR porn. What's your number?

Speaker 7 VR number. My VR number?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, my VR number.
Yo, yo.

Speaker 7 Have you tried the Oculus Quest at all or any of the Oculus VR?

Speaker 1 No, you get all the cool stuff.

Speaker 7 Oh, no, I go out and mess with everything because I need to find out what works, like to try to give me an edge.

Speaker 1 Okay, so along those same lines, how fucked are we with like cybersecurity? Like everyone owns everything?

Speaker 7 You know, you know, there's two types of companies and people, those who have been hacked and those who have been hacked and don't know it.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 And so it's just going to happen to everybody because you get dudes, you know, girls, guys, whatever, that it's a challenge, right? And they just sit there for days at a time.

Speaker 7 Like when I used to write software, I remember sitting there taking on projects and I'd start coding and I look up and it's like 24 hours later, you know, and I didn't even realize, I thought it was like two hours later.

Speaker 7 And so it's such an intellectual challenge. There's always someone trying to crack everything, whether you're from Iran, Ukraine, Russia, China, United States.

Speaker 7 But the good news is because we have the most cloud and processing power over here, we still got the edge.

Speaker 1 What about CyberDust? What happened to Cyberdust?

Speaker 7 It's still rolling. You can still hit me up at Blog Maverick.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is? Yeah, Block Market.

Speaker 7 It's dusted. No, it's called Dust Now, but yeah, it's called Dust Messaging.
You can hit me up on there, and I try to answer. I actually answered more of those than I do emails.

Speaker 1 Okay, Blogger Dust You again.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Blog Maverick. Okay, I like, I like

Speaker 7 the idea of dusting.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I still do a ton of business on there because it's like when you have a face to, you walk outside, you have a face-to-face conversation, there's no record of it, right? Right.

Speaker 7 Right, you just know whatever, and this, this is the equivalent. When no matter what, the minute

Speaker 7 when you're done with a dust conversation, right, you can delete it right then or it automatically deletes in 24 hours. Never touch, like, on WhatsApp and Telegram or whatever.

Speaker 7 They save it, and if someone unencrypts it, someone else can go get it, which business is not good, right?

Speaker 7 But with ours, it's only in memory in the servers, and when when it's gone it's gone forever the fbi nobody can get it back and so it's just like a digital version of a face-to-face conversation i like that i like that a lot so dust messaging you grew up playing rugby yeah what position were you i started off in second row got the kicked out of me and then i went to um wing forward and eighth man okay cool so i i played for like 10 years yeah i played a long time i love the sport yeah i played down in texas for a while where at uh austin on the austin huns oh yeah yeah we were pretty good for for a couple years there i played for the um dallas harlequins for a while and then the reds okay yeah i i played against both those teams.

Speaker 3 I think there was,

Speaker 3 I want to say Ryan Moates, the old NFL running back,

Speaker 3 played on one of those teams in his first game and absolutely lit the shit out of me. Just like sent me horizontal and tackle.

Speaker 3 But it's been one of these things that we have as a running joke on the show that rugby is the sport of the future.

Speaker 1 And that it's actually not the joke.

Speaker 6 Well, it's one of them. No.

Speaker 1 It's never going to grow. I love rugby, man.

Speaker 3 And I love it, too. And I want it to grow.
But it seems like it's one of those sports that it's almost like Colt status, you know, and it's big and clear.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like if you played it, yeah if you play it you know it and you love it right it's tougher to to get going but as it turns out you know major league rugby right um guy who worked for me for 15 years just george killer just became the commissioner and so they're in good hands now you got to get sponsors and you got to learn how to sell it and he's a great salesperson so if it's going to happen he's the guy to do it um i mean i'll go to games i'll watch them like when they're on tv i'll watch the games

Speaker 7 i'm not a sevens guy though so i'm a i'm a 15s guy same yeah so when you watch these guys beat the you know just like we played right um

Speaker 7 and so yeah i'm i'll watch it every chance i get world cup like stephen adams comes through i give him the shit about you know you know why the all blacks didn't go anywhere in the rugby world cup right

Speaker 7 yeah it's it's one of the sports that i feel like it's hitting it's hit a ceiling several times i just don't know if it's ever going to get to that next stage and it's got a chance to it really depends on who gets behind it they're getting better owners now and like yeah the sad thing is like i'm probably the most famous rugby player in the united states right that's how sad it is.

Speaker 3 It's probably me now, actually.

Speaker 7 It's probably true. That's probably true.

Speaker 7 And I'll hand you the crown willy and eat.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 like,

Speaker 7 IU is Indiana is really pissed because most of the money that I give the school, with the exception of this media thing, is all to the rugby team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask about that. Yeah.
Why haven't you made Indiana basketball good again?

Speaker 7 You can't. You know, I gave to the media, I created the Cuban Media Center so that they can create recruiting videos and use internal analytics tapes and I gave them all this equipment and

Speaker 1 spin zone yeah no but it's true but I can't you know Coach Miller it's his deal right yeah you know but can you write you could I know how like college recruiting works like if you just have or college coaching works you could just hire Steve Kerr yeah but

Speaker 7 you got to recruit the right guys yeah you wrote a big enough check I mean it's not even that right you there's lots of great coaches that are out there but you got to recruit the right guys and it's if it were that easy I'd do it right?

Speaker 1 But, you know, $100 million to have Coach K be the Indiana coach.

Speaker 7 I don't think it'd make a big difference.

Speaker 1 I think he'd do it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't think you don't think he would.

Speaker 1 What about get uh, what about bring Tom Creen back? I love Tom Cream.

Speaker 7 That's right.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I love Tom Cream, man.

Speaker 1 Tom was the best.

Speaker 7 That was really the last time I really connected with IU

Speaker 7 on basketball because I thought he was a great coach. I had no idea why they got rid of him.

Speaker 1 He's a great person, too. Yeah, I love him.
Yeah, he's cool. $100 million for Brad Stevens.
Bring him home.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he'd move. Yeah, I don't think he'd move.

Speaker 1 That much money? I'm just saying, if I had your money, I'd be throwing all of it. Trust me, if I'm going to spend $100 million to do it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, $100 million. I'm not going to do it for it.
I mean, I don't mind giving money, but $100 million for the basketball program.

Speaker 1 But think about how cool it would be at the Final Four.

Speaker 7 I've been to the Final Four.

Speaker 3 You can buy a ticket to the Final Four.

Speaker 1 That would be cool.

Speaker 3 I never got that about

Speaker 3 wealthy benefactors and stuff for college football teams that will write these five, six, seven million dollar checks, and then they just do it so that they can root for a better team it's like it's like

Speaker 7 if I want to own the team I want some of the upside of well no no it's like I'm gonna root for the team no matter what right right I want them to win but it's not like the Mavs like the Mavs you know I live and die by every game right I you I want them to win I love watching the games right you know but it's not going to make a break it's the difference between rich and super rich because super rich guys buy the team rich guys can be boosters and like almost many owners well i mean you just can't really own a college team But I'll tell you a story.

Speaker 7 You want to hear a story? Yes. I'll tell you a story.
So, before the college playoff system was going around, I was with a group and we were putting together our own college playoff system, right?

Speaker 7 And we were going to buy in and do it. And then that kind of pushed them to create the college playoff system.
I'll say that, you know, I'll take credit for it, whether or not it was.

Speaker 7 But I also called up a couple of conferences and I said, What if we wrote you a $50 million per school check to take over basketball from the NCAAs. You would leave.

Speaker 7 You wouldn't be able to be, you know, in March Madness and you wouldn't be able to be a Final Four or anything, but you're going to get a $50 million check right off the bat and you're going to have a better TV deal and we're going to own your conference and it's just going to be like rugby, like, you know, it's just going to be a separate business.

Speaker 7 And they just, they were, they, they were terrified.

Speaker 1 Too scared. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It probably did shock them into some change, though.

Speaker 7 Well, I don't know, but you know, it's like, imagine the kind of the format was you create a company called the Big Ten, Big Ten Inc, right? And you write the checks to all the

Speaker 7 teams, all the schools, and not only do they get the check, but they own part of the company.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 1 Makes sense. Right?

Speaker 3 Think about it.

Speaker 1 It's just the change is too scary. Think about it.
I like that.

Speaker 3 Think about it. I am thinking about it right now.

Speaker 1 And I think it should work.

Speaker 3 What do you think about the prospects for the XFL to succeed?

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 7 it's got a chance, right? Because it's, again, watching football is 12 minutes, right? So it's really easy.

Speaker 7 It's just, you've got to get the right cities because there's some cities that support football. 25,000 people show up no matter what.
Right. San Antonio, they're going to show up no matter what.

Speaker 7 Memphis, they're going to show up, right?

Speaker 7 You know, so if they can get people to show up so it looks good on TV and they get some numbers.

Speaker 7 you know they can last you know they just got to keep their costs lower like the guys behind what was it the afl af

Speaker 1 that was the yeah the biggest part is we thought it was like an insurance company yeah it felt like i need an l or an a or something yeah no idea what's going on they tried they had the right idea but they wouldn't

Speaker 7 you know i remember talking to them and it was like you got to get a deal where you can sell your players to the nfl

Speaker 7 you know i'm like it's like european basketball you know we'll pay 750 grand to the team to get luca out of his contract right you've got to set up a deal where that way you're truly a player development league and if one of your guys go to the nfl you're making money right and you figure 10 20 30 and if you're making 750 grand a pop right you're getting you know that's enough to help support a league and they just you know they're like well we can't see how to get there and they the NFL won't do this or that and so right what if they were to like pay Trevor Lawrence a superstar collegiate athlete that has one year left pay him like $30 million for one season they lose their ass in the XFL you think that would be a bad investment yeah people don't you know there's only a few basketball players that people pay just to go see.

Speaker 7 Most of them go for the experience of the game, right?

Speaker 7 And football is even more so like that. You know, do you really go to see Tom Brady play?

Speaker 1 And you're rooting for teams, city, city. Yes,

Speaker 1 all that stuff.

Speaker 7 You know, it's a family tradition. You're rooting for the jersey, right? You like going to the games, you know.

Speaker 7 You like the tradition of it. You like going with whoever you're going with.

Speaker 1 You just...

Speaker 7 It just doesn't work that way. I mean, I get to look at the Mavs numbers and I know which visiting teams draw fans for individual players and it's far fewer than you think.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, it's more about selling our experiences. People,

Speaker 7 you know, if you think about the last, when was the last time you went to a Bulls game?

Speaker 1 Last year.

Speaker 7 What was the score?

Speaker 1 Fuck, I don't know. Exactly.

Speaker 7 You bet the overview. Who were you with? Who were you with?

Speaker 1 I was with two buddies of mine.

Speaker 7 And you had a good time? Yeah, it was a great time. That's the whole key, right? You don't remember the scores.
You don't remember the dunks.

Speaker 7 Y'all are drinking, hanging out, having fun, checking people out.

Speaker 1 That's what games are. They lost to the Knicks, which was bad because the Knicks were terrible.

Speaker 7 But you get get the point, right? And football, it's like, okay, you go to root for your team and there's 12 minutes of action.

Speaker 7 And maybe since it's only 12 minutes, you remember, you know, this run or that pass, right? But you're not going to see an individual player.

Speaker 7 So playing Trevor Lawrence or anyone or any five ones isn't going to make the difference.

Speaker 1 How's the new hip?

Speaker 7 Both of them are good, man.

Speaker 1 You've got double?

Speaker 7 I've got two of them, 2007 and 2014. I'm out playing.
The only thing I can't do is play rugby.

Speaker 7 I go back for my old boys' games, and that's the only thing that scares the shit out of me that one's going to pop out if I hit somebody.

Speaker 3 But you actually still try to play.

Speaker 3 You play on the Silverback side?

Speaker 7 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 No, I don't play in the old boys' games anymore.

Speaker 7 I played one half after I got the first one done, and I'm like, no, no, because I got hit one time, and I'm like, just grabbing onto it. I'll play pickup.
I still go to play pickups.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hoops, play rugs. How's the game going?

Speaker 7 My game's still good. I can still shoot.
I've worked with a math shooting coach, so it got even better. Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a nice perk.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the problem is like you hit a point one year like you're jumping and you feel good and the next year it's like you got can't stop and you got no bounce right i've heard that with those hip surgeries you can just like walk out of the hospital later on that day yeah no i walked out yeah i mean you got you're taking drugs right but i was walking that same day if you go back in my instagram account um i like um tag everything that i was doing and track it and yeah i mean same day i was up and walking next day i was on crutches the next day i was i was good i remember that that's because i remember your instagram being like falling along yeah doing all my rehab and everything and it feels a thousand times better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was like, I want a new hip. Yeah, why not, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, if you get one, you know, get one on the plane and put one on it.

Speaker 1 You can do it.

Speaker 7 Why not? You wake up, you feel a thousand times better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. All right, this has been awesome.

Speaker 3 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 8 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 8 and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out gets your head back in the game of life satisfying your hunger remember this snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else snickers satisfies man that's a winning play are you the oldest person on tick tock no

Speaker 1 you are big on tick tock i love tick tock bullish with that are you bullish on tick tock yeah are you not stealing all of our identities yeah who cares

Speaker 1 yeah who cares

Speaker 7 it's like yeah i don't give a fuck right you tiny bunny what are they gonna do you know oh mark cuban you know whatever what are they gonna do right mark cuban

Speaker 1 so yeah i mean i guess but like what taking out our faces yeah crazy like ai and right

Speaker 1 you can just change your face once they figure it out

Speaker 7 i'm the one doing the ai so i got this company synthesia right where we could just over um

Speaker 7 we could take um train a voice to put on anybody right so they got we did a thing in um when the maths went to china two years ago um i trained it you sit in front of the um the computer, the video, and they train it using AI.

Speaker 7 And then they get these native Chinese speakers, and it looks like I'm saying it, right? Because it matches all up. I got another company.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait. How many companies do you have?

Speaker 3 That first company sounds evil.

Speaker 7 Oh, no. It's not evil yet.

Speaker 3 Are you doing evil?

Speaker 1 No, we do it for good.

Speaker 7 It's really for business. So just say you want to take bleacher report this, right?

Speaker 7 And so if we get you guys sitting there and training it for like 20 minutes and you want to have it done in native Chinese or native Spanish or whatever, so it looks like you guys are doing the podcast or your guest is doing the podcast in that language works.

Speaker 7 You want to do an ad?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, it's not.

Speaker 3 We got to get into the Chinese podcast market.

Speaker 1 We absolutely should.

Speaker 3 And you should absolutely explode.

Speaker 1 Damn. So we just have to speak English and then you're.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and it does all the rest of the world. Then you get, you know, someone else will translate it.
So imagine like movies where they dub it in and it sounds also

Speaker 1 really stupid, right?

Speaker 7 It'll all look real and you don't have to do this double, you know.

Speaker 3 It'll probably be like 600 million Chinese potential podcasts.

Speaker 7 So, right, so for TikTok, right? So for TikTok, I've got this other company,

Speaker 7 2020 CV, Computer Vision, right? And so

Speaker 7 he's doing this thing with dogs where he can replace your face with a picture of your puppy. And it's starting to look 3D.

Speaker 7 And so, we don't have it down completely yet, but using artificial intelligence, you're sitting there talking.

Speaker 1 Have you got a dog?

Speaker 7 And you replace your face with the dog's face.

Speaker 1 It's fucking hysterical. And of course, that will work because everyone, like, what does the internet love? Dogs.
Yeah, dogs, right? Cat's next, right?

Speaker 7 So you can't really take, it's hard to take videos of your cat and get them to stand there right right but um with a dog you can do it and whatever kind of dog you have and oh it's funny as hell what about cloning dogs that's what you should do yeah i haven't gotten into that do that everyone would do that but i got this other crazy company eterniva it was a shark tank company like i did this for two hours and another company

Speaker 7 so um

Speaker 7 They when people die and get cremated, they can take the ashes and create a diamond. And now we're taking it so you can take a hair.

Speaker 7 So like if you guys wanted to, for Dave give him you know something special a gift right like nope like a diamond right so just pull out a couple hairs out of his head well he's in fake hairs but yeah okay if they're fake it ain't gonna work right now it might not work okay we're getting him to you know cut and you know and yeah we'll get a couple

Speaker 1 get him

Speaker 7 of himself well not of himself no no because you can create using the carbon that's in hair right or in remains right you can use the carbon put it in this carbon put um it into this device and it takes like eight months but it compresses it and creates a real diamond from the carbon in your hair.

Speaker 7 Holy shit. Yo, it's crazy as fuck.

Speaker 1 It's crazy as nuts. Yeah, it's crazy as fuck.

Speaker 3 When was the last time you just chilled out and just like unplugged and didn't worry about stuff?

Speaker 7 I mean, I got kids, so I'm always worried about shit, especially a 16-year-old daughter. Stay away.

Speaker 7 I got people looking out everywhere.

Speaker 1 Are you letter on social media?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to stop her. I can't do it.
But

Speaker 1 is it like her accounts private and stuff? Yeah,

Speaker 7 except on TikTok.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because some people, like, you're like, wait, why aren't you?

Speaker 7 No, No, there's some crazies out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. There's some crazies out there.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, we have the talk and everything. Right.
Right. So, like, on Snapchat, when she turned 13, she's 16 now.
I had to have the talk. There's two types of people in this world.

Speaker 7 Those who send nudes and those who don't. Once you do, you can never come back.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 7 And so I had, you know, dad, but

Speaker 1 it's how to do it, right? It is reality.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. I'm like reality.

Speaker 7 Dude ever asks you for a nude, you send them to me, one, because I'm going to kick his motherfucking ass. And two, you know, you dust him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You just physically dust him.

Speaker 1 You're a different guy. You dust him off the worst.

Speaker 3 Our producer, Hank's a nude guy. Yeah, he's a nude, so he can never come back.

Speaker 1 They're forever out there, Hank.

Speaker 3 I had an absolute little nude put up by our intern one time, but it was just a tip, so it's not like a full nude.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you ever thought about doing a podcast?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it just takes too much time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like listening to you talk about your companies, you should just do a podcast just for high people where you're like, all right, I got this other company.

Speaker 1 It's going to take your commercial.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 What was that? Oh, fuck.

Speaker 7 Oh, fuck it. I forget.

Speaker 7 Another company. No, it was just Damon John and I, Shark Tank.

Speaker 1 He's, by the way, he's kind of got a crush on us.

Speaker 1 Of course he does. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's come on.

Speaker 1 He wants us to be part of his whole life.

Speaker 7 Oh, his empire, his marketing.

Speaker 1 If you see us showing up to Shark Tank with Damon John, you're in trouble.

Speaker 7 Damon's my guy, man. Whatever he does, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Now that you've given us all the secrets inside your brain, we can now now more effectively help Damon use this.

Speaker 1 And I'm good with that.

Speaker 7 I'm good with that. I got no problem with that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 No, he's no, I'm good.

Speaker 3 My last question. Do you watch Billions?

Speaker 1 Yeah. How much on cameos? Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3 You did have a camera. How much of that character of Bobby Axel, Rod, do you think was based on you?

Speaker 7 None. Yeah, none.
None? No. I mean, but I gave him advice like when Brian Koppelman was starting to write it and, you know, some of the battles I've had and shit I've gone through.

Speaker 7 So I gave him feedback, which helped inform what he was doing. But actually, Axe is now my guy, right?

Speaker 7 When he was trying to buy a football team, and I'd sit there and give him some advice and help him out with different things. But Billion's a great show.
Brian Koppelman's a writer.

Speaker 7 Both those guys do a great job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, have you played basketball with him?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's how I met him. I went to Michael Jordan's camp.

Speaker 1 He had dinner with him a few months ago, and he said that he was a very good basketball player. And I was like, he can play.
Yeah, he can play. All right.

Speaker 1 So he's

Speaker 7 Michael Jordan's camp. That's a rich guy thing, you know.

Speaker 7 He doesn't have the fantasy camp. They don't have it anymore.
Right.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, if you ever need a few rebounds.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know what? One of the best parts parts of owning the team, like before almost every home game,

Speaker 7 I'm out on the court shooting at 4 o'clock.

Speaker 1 I'll rebound for you.

Speaker 7 I will. Literally, you know one of the best jobs now at the Mavs?

Speaker 7 We have guys that we hire as interns that have played college basketball or played semi-pro or whatever to come in and rebound for our guys and to also run plays to help them simulate stuff.

Speaker 7 Best job in all spending.

Speaker 1 That is the best job. Yeah, best job of all.
All right, well, I'll be your personal rebounder. There you go.
It's on. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 It's not that that you'd have much to do because you won't, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 You're not that good of a shooter. No chance.
Where do you shoot from three?

Speaker 7 What do I shoot? Yeah, I mean, I'm not playing in the league, but I.

Speaker 1 I'm not a percentage.

Speaker 7 No, but I can go around. Like, if I get rolling, I can hit 15, 20 in a row.

Speaker 1 Corner three is my shirt. Yeah.
Yeah. Corner three is a count.
That's a good count. That's easy to share.

Speaker 7 There's videos of me on my Instagram and around the net of me shooting, so you can go check it out.

Speaker 1 Okay, fine.

Speaker 3 You only put up the ones that you make, though.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I'm not the one who puts them up. I don't put up my own shit up.
It's not like I'm saying to take a video of me shooting. So

Speaker 7 when I'm down there shooting before a game and people are just taking videos,

Speaker 3 whoops. Yeah, just random accounts.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's not Mark Cuban.

Speaker 1 They tagged me, right?

Speaker 7 Mark Cuban making it rain right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And whoops. You retweeted it by accident.
Oh, of course I retweeted it.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 1 Never the ones I missed. Yeah.
Mark, thank you so much. My pleasure.
Appreciate it. You're a recurring guest now, though.
So you come back on. Absolutely.
Come on here and pitch all kinds of shit.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Done. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's get to some segments.

Speaker 1 Bachelor Talk. I feel like this one's poppin', Hank.
Is this a puppin' season?

Speaker 6 A lot of drama this season.

Speaker 1 A lot of drama.

Speaker 6 It turns out you're in it for the love or you're in for the drama.

Speaker 1 I can just tell by the tweets that this is a good season.

Speaker 6 The girls were very excited when Chris Harrison told them they were leaving Cleveland and headed to Costa Rica with Pete.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 6 I wonder.

Speaker 1 Pilot Pete, right?

Speaker 3 Pilot Pete. Did they let Pete fly them down there?

Speaker 3 I don't think so. Has Pete gotten behind the joystick?

Speaker 1 Yes, a couple times.

Speaker 6 Pete meets the girl for a group date with a band-aid across his forehead.

Speaker 6 He tells them that he fought a Puma in Costa Rica, but in reality, he bumped his head on a golf cart and slammed his head into a glass he was holding.

Speaker 1 Pete sounds like a.

Speaker 6 I did see this part. He walked up to the girls, like, oh my God, what's wrong with your head? And he was explaining the Puma story.

Speaker 6 And he's like, oh, I was hiking alone, and I came across a Puma, and I did what I had to do, and all the girls bought it.

Speaker 1 They bought it. You're like, what?

Speaker 6 Oh, my God. And he's like, just kidding.

Speaker 1 I'm a class.

Speaker 6 He basically threw a glass into his own head.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, that's the drunkest possible injury of all time. You tripped into a golf cart, and then the glass that contained your drink cut you in your head.

Speaker 3 And then he went, to his credit, he went and he told the big lie. It's easier to say, like, oh, I got attacked by a murderous mountain lion

Speaker 3 and I beat the shit out of it than it would be to say, like, oh, I walked into my shower door by accident. Right.
Which I would have said because now they're thinking about you naked.

Speaker 6 And then there's just a whole lot of, he said, she's, or she said, she said, she said, said, she said, Tammy snitched on Kelsey to Pete, saying that she's on the verge of a mental breakdown, then accused Kelsey of being an alcoholic and popping pills to deal with her problems.

Speaker 6 Kelsey then said she only takes Adderall and birth control.

Speaker 1 But basically, every girl. Together,

Speaker 1 that seems like a good party.

Speaker 6 It seems like every girl, they go on these one-on-ones, and he's like, well, this girl said this about you, and then they just roast another girl, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I like the combination of Adderall and pregnancy pills, though, or not pregnancy pills.

Speaker 3 The classiest move is when you see a young upstanding lady taking her birth control, swallowing it with like a bloody Mary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or doing a line of Adderall.

Speaker 1 While, yeah,

Speaker 1 doing all that stuff all in one and then being like, let's party. And you know it's a party.
You know it's a party. Pistol Pete? No.
Pilot. Pilot Pete.

Speaker 7 Pilot Pete.

Speaker 1 I don't like him.

Speaker 3 I've seen Pilot Pete doing a lot of media. Is that normal for like in the middle of the season to have Pete talking to reporters?

Speaker 6 I've got a picture chicken in the office today.

Speaker 1 Oh, he did. Oh,

Speaker 1 go check out their podcast coming out soon.

Speaker 3 Listen to that, but I want it for the record that if you're on The Bachelor, it seems like you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Speaker 1 If you're just being a media hoarder, I've been told some shit's going on because they're basically like

Speaker 6 they're already down to six girls.

Speaker 6 Things seem to be going quickly.

Speaker 1 Got it. He's a strange thing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, strange things are afoot, I would say.

Speaker 1 All right, we got a new segment. New segment alert, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hope he sees this king. This is for Rich Paul and the Knicks.

Speaker 3 I was going to say it's James Dolan and the Knicks.

Speaker 1 Oh, James Dolan.

Speaker 3 Because James Dolan fired the president of the Knicks because he wants to get Messiah Regi from the Raptors. Okay.

Speaker 3 So it's like basically he's just making a very public display of getting rid of the guy that he wants the new guy for. Like that position that he wants the new guy for.

Speaker 1 Like, look, we've moved on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so James Dolan, hope he sees this king. Hope Messiah is attracted by your offer of firing the guy who he wants you to replace.

Speaker 1 So the Rich Paul part is he tweeted the Muscles emoji, three of them.

Speaker 6 Well, there's reports that the Knicks want to do the Lakers model.

Speaker 1 Right. Having like an agent running

Speaker 3 of winning basketball games. Right.

Speaker 1 Which they haven't done well recently, but now they are starting to win basketball games. But yeah,

Speaker 1 the Mussels emoji. So he's maybe saying, I'll take the job and I'll bring LeBron.

Speaker 3 Rich Paul as president of the Knicks?

Speaker 6 Bronny Jr.

Speaker 3 I love that because there's no chance in hell that LeBron James ever plays for the Knicks.

Speaker 3 No, absolutely. No, no chance in hell.

Speaker 1 I think Rich Paul is the president.

Speaker 3 This is LeBron James being like, hey, use my name to get paid.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's.

Speaker 6 I think until my son is eligible and take him first.

Speaker 3 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 If Bronnie Jr. is on the Knicks, you think there's still 0% chance? No hell?

Speaker 3 No chance in hell? LeBron James doesn't want to put that spotlight on LeBron James Jr.

Speaker 1 True. Chosen one.
The king. The prince.
So you tweeted,

Speaker 3 like, literally, hope he sees this king, James.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, Rich Paul, I think, I mean, why not? Just become the president of the Kings.

Speaker 6 He tweeted a video of Bryce Maximus, his seventh-grade son's AAU team, and they have kids dunking all over the place.

Speaker 1 Right. It's disgusting.
Also,

Speaker 1 Rich Paul. It should be technical.
Rich Paul being the president of the Knicks. Forget LeBron, you know, who's the free agent after this year.
And Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 This league. All roads lead back.

Speaker 3 They should go the Lakers model, and instead of Palinka, just get Rob Lowe to dress up like Palinka.

Speaker 1 Just hang out with an NBA hat. Yeah.
Like, I'm the president now.

Speaker 1 All right, guys on chicks, wrapping up Wednesday's show.

Speaker 6 My boyfriend will not stop asking me if we can 69 with him on top. I am terrified of this.

Speaker 6 I am terrified of his butt in my face, but equally worried about his obsession with this and why he wants to, quote-unquote, reverse 69 me. Should I do it? What are your thoughts on reverse 69?

Speaker 1 Sounds like you kind of have to eventually, because otherwise, he's going to be annoying. Or break up with him.
Break up with him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it seems.

Speaker 1 Give it a shot.

Speaker 3 It honestly seems like not a great, not a great play for either either party.

Speaker 1 How much does he weigh? That's the question. If it's over 170, I think just don't do it.

Speaker 1 Or do it and then immediately say I can't breathe.

Speaker 3 There should be, yeah, you should have a scale next to your bed anyways for these types of purposes when there's a gentleman caller. But yeah, over that, it's like

Speaker 3 it's the measuring stick for you are too tall to ride this ride.

Speaker 6 Hey, PMT boys, especially Slim Cat. My husband of six years, a huge AWL, is obsessed with the idea idea of peeing through my legs as I myself am sitting down to pee.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 6 I started out thinking it was a joke, but as he keeps bringing it up, I am beginning to think he's actually serious.

Speaker 6 Is this just normal guy stuff, or is my husband a complete weirdo?

Speaker 3 No, it's a test of your accuracy. It's actually exhilarating.
I've done the same before.

Speaker 6 Like spelling something in the snow.

Speaker 1 He's also an environmentalist.

Speaker 3 He's saving water. Yeah.
And saving time. Right.
And time is money. Efficiency.
So really, he's making more money.

Speaker 3 He's getting a raise if you allow him to do do this. That benefits your entire family.
I don't know if you ever played the old Madden games, the minicamp games. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 But the one where you have to pass through the rings? Yes. That's what he's doing right now.
He's working on some of the accuracy issues.

Speaker 1 There's no downside to this. Zero.
Only upside. More money, better for the environment, accuracy, bonding time.
Think about it.

Speaker 1 You don't get to spend time with your significant other when they're in the bathroom. Now you do.

Speaker 1 You are stealing back time.

Speaker 3 Very, very worst case scenario. He sprinkles a little bit on you.

Speaker 3 You got the toilet paper right there.

Speaker 3 It's actually the perfect place to get pissed on. Yeah.

Speaker 6 All right, speaking of that, good segue. Hi, everyone.
Especially Slim Clat, especially Slim Cat. My boyfriend has a problem with always wanting to shower with me.

Speaker 6 Every night he says, see you in the shower when I go in. Sometimes I just want alone time.
What should I do about him always wanting to come in?

Speaker 6 Showers are a sacred place.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you have a shower fucking in the shower.

Speaker 1 That's like, now you're in porn.

Speaker 6 You have it every night?

Speaker 1 Porn every night, not bad. You could

Speaker 3 go a hank and just poop one time in the shower.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's pretty much what she's doing.

Speaker 3 You're like, this is a Honk Lockwood special. And then he'll never want to shower with you again.

Speaker 1 Or just wait till turn on the shower and then start, like, I don't know, shaving your legs or doing something, some female thing that we don't understand.

Speaker 1 And then the minute he comes in, you'll be like, I'm not in the shower yet.

Speaker 1 He'll think twice.

Speaker 1 That'll put a little Hazzy in his knees.

Speaker 3 Or you could just say that you showered at a different temperature than him. So, like, just

Speaker 3 do one cold shower and say, this is how I always shower.

Speaker 1 Yeah, say you watched a video from Business Insider that they tweeted out that a life hack about cold showers will make you a billionaire.

Speaker 3 I watched the goop, and Gwyneth Paltrow says, if I take a cold shower, then the natural yeast in my vagina will clean itself.

Speaker 3 And I'll never have to go to a gynecologist again. And then he'll be like, I understand.

Speaker 1 I think we've given you more than enough to work with here.

Speaker 6 All right, last one. Stuffboys, especially 2020 Slim Cat.
A lot of Slim Cat today.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 6 One of my best friends had a messy breakup with their boyfriend. They shared an apartment, so she asked if she could crash with me for a bit.
I said yes, but now it's been three months.

Speaker 3 What should I do?

Speaker 1 Wait, what? Three months?

Speaker 3 Got to have a threesome.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. No, it's just her.
Her boyfriend.

Speaker 6 Her friend broke up with their boyfriend and said, hey, can I come live with you for a little while?

Speaker 3 But the person who owns the home or townhouse, excuse me, the cat,

Speaker 3 do they have a significant other?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 If you and Big Cat broke up and you came and lived with me and said you're going to live with me for a bit and then you stay for three months.

Speaker 1 Three months? We'd be getting after it. Three months is insane.
That's...

Speaker 1 I think you've got to...

Speaker 6 Send like a passive aggressive text like most girls do.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 or just start charging her rent. Just send her a passive-aggressive cash app request for the rent and see what happens.
And do the whole rent. She's got to pay all of it.

Speaker 1 And then maybe you get free rent.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not bad. I mean, just sending an invoice, chances are.
100% that they'll pay it. Three months is a long time,

Speaker 3 especially if this was not agreed upon beforehand.

Speaker 1 Here's what you got to do. Watch like any Judd Appetow rom-com where I feel like this happens where they break up and then the person gets back on their feet and starts crushing life.

Speaker 1 And maybe just be like, hey, look, Christine Wigg, she figured it out in

Speaker 3 Bridesmaids. I think what you really have to do is just encourage her to move in with whatever the next guy that she hangs out with is.

Speaker 3 Just talk up that next dude.

Speaker 3 That guy, he is so cool. He's tall.
He's 5'8 ⁇ . He's perfect for you.

Speaker 1 Department that's not mine. Right.

Speaker 3 Just like whatever it is. Gas up the next guy she talks to to an obscene amount.
Yes. And then, boom, she's moving out.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
That's our show. We'll see everyone on Friday.
Now, this is going to be...

Speaker 1 Friday is going to be tough because it's going to be the first Friday without an NFL preview.

Speaker 3 we'll do XFL team overruns.

Speaker 1 It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt.
Everyone get ready. We'll make sure that we have a great guest, but it's going to hurt.

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