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On today's part in my take, we have Mark Cuban.

The long-awaited Mark Cuban interview is finally here.

We luckily caught up with him in South Beach during the Super Bowl week.

It was by happenstance, and now we have Mark Cuban on the show.

We've been trying to get him on the show for four years.

Awesome interview.

Talk everything that you can imagine for 40 minutes. So great, great interview coming.
We have some This League. Kind of crazy because there are a lot of Cubans down there walking around.
A lot of Cubans down there. We found him.
We found Mark Cuban. Needle in a haystack.
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Now in the street there is violence And then a lot of stuff Work to be done No place to hang No washing And then I can't live All on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Pardon My Take presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by the Cash App Go download it right now, use code BARSTOOL You get $10 for free, $10 to ASPCA Today is Wednesday, February 5th And it this league time. Football's over, so it's time for this league.
They wasted no time getting back into the Petty Wars today. Almost a little too perfect timing with football done.
I'm convinced that there was a script going around to the Golden State Warriors, to the Memphis Grizzlies, to Woj. Woj probably rode it, as a matter of fact,

and get Wendy involved in there too, Rachel Nichols, all the key players. This is like sweeps week for the NBA.
They knew now's their time to strike, and they did it with the perfect timing. Hats off to David Stern.
And as all NBA beefs go, all roads lead back to Kevin Durant. So here's what's happened.
essentially

everyone knows that Andre Iguodala

got traded in July for cap relief to the Grizzlies he essentially said at the time I'm not playing for them trade me to a contender it was all kind of agreed upon like everyone said this isn't a real trade he's going to eventually play for another team he has not played all year he's not shown up he has not done anything with the Grizzlies because he kind of said he wasn't going to, which is okay because he admitted it, and I think the Grizzlies were like, that's fine, we'll trade you. Last night, who was it? Dylan Brooks was asked about Andre Iguodala, and he essentially said, we can't wait until he gets traded so we can beat his ass and show him what this team's about because the Grizzlies are kind of a fun young team with John moran then of course it went to twitter and he did say though his quote was like it's not a distraction at all i laugh at that he's not even there right right so it's like it is at this league where the words have definitely gotten like of course misconstrued but it's it's fully fully fledged now this is the only league ever where somebody that hasn't been on the team all year can get into a fight with somebody about not being on that team when it was agreed upon that he would not be on that team later.
Right. So Steph Curry then responded with an Instagram story with Andre Goddard holding the Larry O'Brien trophy, being like, hey, look, he's got a ring.
Why don't you shut up? And John Morant, which I love, future rookie of the year, responded with Kevin Durant being like, hey, who won those rings? Kevin Durant. And that's where this league reaches its final destination.
Kevin Durant being used to somehow cuck the Warriors' success is perfect this league. Yeah, he is the straw that stirs the drama in the NBA.
Right. And it great yeah whenever you see him like he was making like the shrugging sign that was the perfect matchup to the emoji that was used this is why i think that it was all written out was because the emojis were locked and loaded to be matched up with the pictures they were it was almost a little bit too perfect and too coincidental uh they need to have something to talk about going into the all-star break this This is the perfect way to get it going again.
I love what John Morant did as well because he is a Steph Curry fan and he admitted it right away. Because, of course, once he goes at Steph Curry, everyone will go find his tweets saying, Steph Curry's the man, Steph Curry's awesome, three years ago when he was in high school or when he was in college.
So he just admitted it. He's like, I'm not deleting it.
And, yeah, I've always been a Steph Curry fan. I'm just not scared of anyone.
So I like this. I like this from John Morant.
He's an incredible player. But on top of that, it seems like he's got a good personality because most people would get mad online or delete it after a little bit

or walk away or get on their burner.

He just owns up to it.

He's like, I was a Steph Curry fan.

I'm not scared of anyone.

I'm really good.

He always shocks me when I watch the highlight of Ja Morant

just dunking on somebody, just being ruthless because his name's Ja.

It seems like too Rastafari respect of a name

for someone who's not very chill at all on the court. It's also, shout out to the Grizzlies, by the way, because they've been wearing their throwback jerseys.
I think they wore them last night. Awesome.
Grit. The teal.
No, no. The Vancouver ones.
Yeah, yeah. The teal ones.
Big Country. Yes.
The original Big Country. They're awesome.
Those are great, great jerseys. The mid-90s was really a bad time for a lot of stuff in general.
But not those. But not those jerseys.
Yeah, they should bring those back full-time because they pop. Bright green.
They absolutely pop. It turns the Mississippi River, the coast of the Mississippi River, into a little bit of South Beach, having that teal and that pink and red on there.
It's gorgeous. We also have this league because Ben Simmons called the Sixers soft.
He said, we soft jay butt ate that ass last night and uh which was the easiest bet of all time when you watched the fact that i think kylie jenner or is it kendall kendall kendall was in south beach for the super bowl all the sixers were at the super bowl of course they were going to get the shit kicked out of them against the heat on monday night and it's, I mean, the Sixers are in a big-time problem. Trust the process.
They don't know what to do. They have two guys that can't play together, and now you have guys, you know, I mean, he did say we are soft, so at least he threw himself in there.
Right. But that's really a Joel Embiid is soft.
How many threes has he made this year? Two. Two.
Two. Shit.
Okay, is that over-under still at like seven and a half? I'm not sure where it is. Because I really want to get in on that.
Now, Stephen A. Smith was pissed off last night.
I saw that. He was saying, what in the hell capital H-E-L-L is this? I've been watching the Sixers trailing the heat by 35 damn points.
What the hell they do? Whenever you get at least two hell and dams in a Stephen A. Smith tweet, you know he's pretty upset.
Did they party with the Chiefs after the damn Super Bowl? Brett Brown running this Spurs system. Tim Duncan and Tony Parker ain't walking through that door.
Damn. So that's three dams, two hells, which are all fine.
That's just generic profanity. Ass, hell damn it's all out on this page it's all out

on the feed no swearing on the feed though otherwise but yeah Stephen A. Smith is very

very upset with the current state of the Sixers right now but I've had a long-standing theory

that any team from a cold weather city or city that's going through cold weather whenever they

go to Miami bet against them yeah of course and I mean it's doubly true when you can see you can

literally go on Instagram and see them at the game having a great time. The Sixers are horrendous, horrendous on the road.
Are you, Hank, where are you at with the Sixers? Because that was, for a while, it was like, hey, the Sixers and the Celtics are going to have a nice rivalry going forward. Oh, I'm sure it'll still bubble up in the playoffs.
Yeah. I mean, Ben Simmons is saying that, but it's more of like a midseason, like we're soft.
It's not like the NBA. It's like until the All-Star break, they still have time to turn it around.
It's a very weird team, though. I don't know what they do.
They smoked the Sixers on Sunday. That was great.
The Celtics are banged up, too. So, I don't know.
It's one of those. The NBA, I feel like you have to wait until the All-Star break to really, really decide who's here to play and who's not.
And we have, I think, trade deadline coming up on Friday. So maybe something big will happen.
Yeah, a little woge bomb coming. Or nothing will happen.
Everyone will say, damn, this trade deadline sucks. Seems like it's going towards that way.
When is the trade deadline during the day on Friday? I think it's on Thursday. It might be Thursday, yeah.
So that's going to have to be one night that we probably stay late. I remember we got blindsided by a couple of trades a few years ago, right? That wasn't the trade deadline, though.
That was when Boogie got traded randomly after the All-Star game. So that was not anything that we could expect.
I think it's in the middle of the afternoon, though, on Thursday. Either way, this league is back.
It feels good to be back on this league. The NBA knows how to get people uh interested right as soon as football ends so good job by them um by the way we're watching you can watch us barstoolgold.com slash pmt the mark cuban interview you can watch that whole interview barstoolgold.com slash pmt uh can i put a little tickler out there yeah in the pft uh basketball prediction market okay i think the heat are going to make the eastern conference finals oh wow so would you then admit that jay is good? No, I think the Heat are going to make the Eastern Conference Finals.

Oh, wow.

So would you then admit that J-Butt is good?

No, I think that they're going to do it.

He's a nice number two.

Do it in spite of him.

In spite of J-Butt.

Who's their number one?

Yeah, no.

Could you give us a number one, PFT?

No, it's probably J-Butt.

Bam Bam?

Bam Bam?

I'll be honest with you.

It's probably J-Butt.

Hero is nice.

I think they're going to make the Eastern Conference Finals. I think they're just one of those teams that they all kind of like each other.
Oh, okay. I think they've got good chemistry.
There it is. The chemistry can go a long way.
Jimmy Butler and chemistry go hand in hand. Yeah, he is the chemistry king of South Beach.
I'm actually on Jimmy Butler's side. I think that the other four teams he was on that he completely ruined, it was everyone's fault.
Are you then going to say it's addition by subtraction, the fact that Dwayne Wade retired? Absolutely. Yeah.
Shout out to Udonis Haslam still being on the Heat. Oh, yeah, dude.
It's awesome that he's still out there. What a dinosaur.
Doing the damn thing. Yeah, he's just out there every single night, you know? Not every single night, but some nights.
I can't imagine he's playing at all. No, he's not.
But he's out there. Yeah, he's averaging 5.5 minutes a game.
He's only played two games. He's out there.
He has been out there twice. Yeah, good for him.
All right, so are you going to buy a Heat jersey? You should. You should buy a Bam jersey.
No, I'm going to get a Kelly Olenek jersey. Okay, there you go.
The clinic. You got the roster up now.
I got the hair for him. I knew Kelly Olenek was on there.
Kelly, is he even playing? Kelly Olenek? The clinic? Yeah. Yes, he does.
Let's play a game called Name Some Heat Players. Justice Winslow? Yes, that is one of them.
Bam is awesome. Bam? Bam is awesome.
Hero is awesome. Deion Waiters.
Jimmy Butler. Edible God.
Dragic is good. I like Dragic.
That's about it. That's good.
I think they got Myers Leonard too from Portland. Illinois having a huge year.
Let's do some hot seat cool throne. It just occurred to me why I like Miami now.
Because you were there? Yeah. If you

get me drunk in a city, I'll be

like, that's a cool city. I like their teams

now. I'm going to support their teams

because I was intoxicated.

Miles Leonard, all-time bad tattoos, by the way.

Yes, but yeah.

He's also... It's really tough when you're

a seven-foot white dude. Like, what do you do?

Especially when your name's Myers.

Not get blessed. I think he's like blessed

and like forever on his biceps.

You don't have many moves. Your only move is

to be in life. Yes.
Yes. I mean, but what Hank hank is saying though like getting tattoos any kind of style it's all not gonna work you know what i would do though i would go vaguely european if that were yeah i would make people think i was european do the duke makeover so yeah even if i'm just a white guy from virginia that grew up to be seven foot tall i'm gonna do like the faux hawk i'm gonna start i'm gonna get a croatian like crest tattooed on my shoulder tall I'm going to do like the faux hawk I'm going to start I'm going to get a Croatian like crest tattooed

on my shoulder and I'm going to put a little

umlaut or something in my last name just do it

and extend my career by five years yeah

I mean all the Duke guys do it all the

I mean the Plumlee brothers are

you can't recognize them anymore they're completely

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Mets fans everywhere. A few months ago, there was news that the Wilpons were finally selling the team.

Right.

This guy, Steve Cohen.

And then today, there's a lot of reports saying that the sale is in ownership and the Wilpons aren't going anywhere.

The only statement the Wilpons have put out is that the parties are subject to confidentiality

obligations, including a mutual non-disclosure agreement, therefore cannot comment.

So they got cold feet.

So if you're a Mets fan, you're like...

They were free.

Yeah.

And now they're not.

Actually, it sounds to me like a case of pre-buyer's remorse. So knowing that you're about to get buyer's remorse before you even complete the sale.
And it's got to be one of those things where now it's going to be scarier for other prospective buyers. If it's like, well, this guy was in, now he's out.
Now he's out. And who wants to...
Yeah, because it seems like the willpons have that uh weird thing going where they don't have money to spend but they have the team that's brutal yeah it's not a good spot to have your team if you love the mets have have an owner who doesn't want to spend money but doesn't also want to sell the team what's it's their greatest asset is the team that they don't spend money on.

It might be a good move financially for the Wilpons to actually say that they're going to sell the team,

enter into a preliminary agreement,

and then all these sponsors start coming through

because they're like, oh, it's not going to be managed by the Wilpons anymore.

It's different.

They start closing new deals left and right all over the place,

get a big Bud Light seltzer sponsor out in center field,

and then the Mets are like, actually, you know what? We're going to hang on to it. But those contracts that you signed, still ours.
Kind of stupid that Steve Cohen didn't put a no backseas in the deal. That's lawyer 101.
No backseas. Right there.
Make them sign it. Spinzone, though, if you're a Mets fan, you're probably the least likely fan base to contract coronavirus because there's nobody else at the game to cough on you true safe safe safe place to be in the eastern seaboard fucked up of netflix to like their main the first thing that popped up when i opened it up was like uh pandemic how to control an outbreak when it happens oh that was smart by them that was like uber surge pricing yeah everyone wants to know about the coronavirus and now i And now I'm fully like it's happening.
Yeah. It literally starts.
It's like, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. I thought you had it.
You were sneezing. Hank sneezed like 15 times in a row on the way to the airport.
And I was like, it's it. That's it for us.
I mean, I probably do. Hank sneezes every time I get a boner, though.
My other hot seat, chocolate milk. Did you see that guy? He removed the milk part of it and was just chugging chocolate syrup in the Senate.
Yes. As one does.
Hell yes. Power move.
Yeah. Chocolate Milk's got to be looking at that picture and be like, oh fuck.
They figured us out. Yeah, if you're negotiating against a guy like that, you've already lost.
And then my cool throne is my chest and all of our chests. The bench press is finally fully operational.
What? Nine months? Nine months? Did you just say that you want us to sit on your chest? Nine months. I just said our...
Cool throne is your... I'll sit on your chest.
All of our chests. Nine months and we got the bench set up.
It's not about time. It's about results.
It's a bottom line. We're a bottom line company.
True. We're about gains.
True. It's absolutely true.
Good point. So what's the workout regimen going to be like? I say that we crank out a set before every single show.
I'm down for that. Okay.
We got to move some stuff around. That's the only problem.
We just got to move the table out a little bit. Yeah, before every show.
Maybe off days. I don't know.
We'll figure it out. We'll have a regimen.
PFT, what do you have? My hot seat is the state of Iowa. So we still don't know what's happening in Iowa right now.
They had the caucus last night, which is when never understood what's happening it's fucking hilarious a caucus as I understand it is a bunch of people go to their old high school gyms they hang out it's a little bit too hot there are no snacks then they kind of select which candidate they want to support then they go stand in a corner look across the room at other candidates like a middle school dance don't get close and then the people who are undecided aka the biggest fucking idiots in the entire world who don't know who to vote for after nine months of having these names shoved down their throat every day uh then they stand in a corner themselves and ask to be invited to other corners it's like model un UN for adults, but the stakes are very, very high. And we just decided we let Iowa decide everything.
That's a good way. It's kind of like the BCS, the old BCS committee.
Yeah. And then you've got Mayor Pete who claimed victory, kind of like being Texas A&M putting up national titles on their stadium.
Did you see, though, he gave a really nice, like, walked back a little because he did claim victory. And then I think he was on a morning show and he basically said, well, it's a victory to be, you know, to get this many votes on a campaign that was just started nine months ago.
Exactly. Nobody knew who he was nine months ago.
So, yeah, that's a nice spin zone. I actually was saying that Klobuchar should have said that when she because she was the first one to come out and speak when all this confusion was going on because we still don't know who won.
She should have just claimed victory immediately. Right.
Because if you're the first one to talk. Klobuchar is, I'm just going to say it, this probably might be out of turn, but that's not an electable name.
She sounds like a left-wing Russian sniper. A left-wing Russian sniper.
Not left-wing politically. I'm talking about actually on the ice.
Oh, gotcha. So you would probably like Klobuchar if you respect a guy.
Can't you just see like Sergei Klobuchar? Big signing for the Blackhawks. If you respect a guy that's chugging chocolate syrup, Klobuchar eats her salad with a comb sometimes.
I do not respect that. That's more of a lunatic move than chugging chocolate syrup.
That. Klobuchar eats her salad with a comb sometimes when she doesn't have a fork around.
I do not respect that.

That's more of a lunatic move than chugging chocolate syrup.

No, that's not a power move.

That's a move that you do so no one comes and talks to you.

Which I also respect.

Chugging chocolate syrup is a move where you do it to stare down your opponent and they

know to turn over and let them pet your belly.

I think saying I'm crazy as fuck enough to eat my salad with my own comb is kind of an

intimidating move.

I don't know what's going on right now, but I guess there was a big app mishap. And I can't really think of like, so people that run elections are usually what in their sixties, seventies, eighties.
It's like them and football coaches are the two people that you don't give them an app to make anything better. Right.
Just give them like, they're all Matt Patricia. Do they stress test the app? Probably not.
Definitely not. Just give them a pencil behind each of their ears and paper.
But right now, Iowa basically fucked up. And I think that Iowa has lost their going first privileges in the future.
But no, they still will get it. I don't think so.
You think they're going to take it away? I think journalists are going to take it away from them and give it to Florida because they'd rather go hang out in Florida. You're underestimating how much journalists dislike being cold.
No, I understand that. I'm just saying I feel like you can't take that away.
That's something you just can't take away iowa gets it iowa goes eight and five in the big 10 west and they get to decide the president every four years or just put coach for instance in charge of the caucus that would work he'd straighten it all out yeah um and my cool throne is mock drafts so it is officially mock draft season right now day after the super bowl we're heavy into mock draft. Todd McShay's already on mock draft 2.0.

I have no idea when mock draft 1.8 or 9 happened.

But we're on 2.0 right now.

He said two is better than Joe Burrow.

Well, I'd like to go ahead and trademark this phrase.

If two is healthy, I just trademarked that phrase.

So you're going to hear that probably a million times between now and the draft. And it's going to be used to say, well, he's going to go anywhere between number three and number 32.

So if two... That phrase.
So you're going to hear that probably a million times between now and the draft. And it's going to be used to say, well, he's going to go anywhere between number three and number 32.

So if two is healthy is officially property of pardon my take.

Please credit if you end up using anytime you think it.

Also, my other cool throne is Jacksonville.

Oh, yeah, this sucks. Because the Jaguars announced that they're going to play two games back to back in London this year.

Now, you might be thinking that sucks for Jacksonville. It sounds like the Jaguars announced that they're going to play two games back-to-back in London this year.
Now, you might be thinking

that sucks for Jacksonville.

It sounds like the Jaguars are moving

to London. You'd be wrong

because Ed Werder reported

that what's actually happening is the

Jaguars are doing two games

back-to-back just so that they can have

enough money to totally redo

their stadium in Jacksonville for a better

fan experience for their home crowd. They're not divorced.
He's just sleeping on the couch. Listen, honey, I'm not I'm only having sex with this other woman so that she can teach me new ways to not make you come.
Right. Just learning new tips and tricks.
That is, there's nothing worse than when the NFL decides to just move franchises around right in everyone's face. It's like, we know what's happening.
Two games in a row. I can't think of a quarterback less suited for British life than Gardner Minshew.
Bring the Chargers to Jacksonville and have the Jaguars and the Chargers play every single game against each other with Phil Rivers. I'm down for that.
That would work. On both sides.
Yes. Because he's living in Florida right now.
Right, Right. All right.
My hot seat is my knowledge of rappers. Hank, do you know who Smoke Perp is? Loosely, but he's probably more in the Liam age bracket.
Liam, do you know who Smoke Perp is? Yeah. Love Perp.
You love Perp? Esketit. Esketit.
Yeah, we know Smoke Perp. Because Adam Schefter said, Le'Veon Bell's Catch Me If You Can album release party took place this morning at Miami Nightclub Rockwell.
Bell walked into that club at 2.30 a.m. with an entourage that included fellow rapper Smokepurpp, and they were seen partying all night at their table next to DJ Booth.
Adam Schefter tweeted that. If you had Adam Schefter tweeting Smokepurpp in 2020, you're a winner.
Where do you think Adam Schefter's autocorrect hit when it popped up saying smoke perp? I don't know, but he's got to smoke perp. That's heavy drugs, is it not? Perp? Perp.
Perp is heavy. We're talking perp.
Not the E. Not E.
Just marijuana. But isn't that like a pot dipped in perp? But you can also drink the perp.
No. Dipped in perp? No, he's just smoking the perp? Yes.
He's not drinking any perp. Not leaning.
He's not sipping syrup. Is he chopped and screwed? Not according to his name, no.
Smoke perp is just a weed reference. Okay.
Smoke perp is one of those names where it's like a little ghost dog? Yeah, if you name yourself smoke perp, you probably don't even smoke that much. That's like a try-hard move, right? It's like, I bet you Tekashi69 only gets his dick sucked.
probably don't even smoke that much that's like a try hard move right it's like i bet you takashi 69 uh only like gets his dick sucked i don't see him going down on girls smoke perp you walk in and smoke perp better have the fattest blunt that's a lot of i mean people are definitely expecting things out of smoke perp so smoke perp adam schefter i'd like to see adam shutter smoke perp imagine? Adam Schefter, if you would like to smoke perp and come on our show, we will do a show with you smoking perp. And it will be a major, major hit.
All right. My cool throne is, one, Andy Reid's wife, because Andy Reid slept with her instead of the trophy.
So good to know that you're still the number one in the relationship. Love that, Andy.
He said he spent the night with his trophy wife instead of the trophy. Love thinking about Andy Reid getting those cheeks.
That's a lot of soaking. That's a lot of soaking.
And then my other cool throne is Mark D'Antonio because he has stepped down. He's retiring as Michigan State head coach.
and it's a cool throne because just in the nick of time, he's stepping away from Michigan State because his former recruiting director, Curtis Blackwell, filed claims that D'Antonio committed NCAA recruiting violations as part of an ongoing lawsuit. That happened yesterday.
I don't like what you're doing here because you're being part of the gotcha journalism establishment in America. If you read his statement, he is stepping down to spend more time with his family.
It has nothing to do with the fact that he was accused of numerous credible violations yesterday. Yes.
And also two weeks after he got paid $4.3 million bonus that he doesn't have to give back. Again, he wants to see his kids' Little League games.
Smart, smart. So, yeah, good job, Mark D'Antonio.
You're on the cool throne. They cannot get you now.
Mark Clown-tonio. You're out.
You're out. You're good.
I'm actually glad that he's retiring because I'm sick of confusing him with Mike D'Antonio. Yeah.
That was too much, having two Italians with those same. Yeah, very, very confusing.
But, yeah, he's good. He's in the clear.
I love when coaches just leave and just leave a pile of shit for their program. We call that the Pete Carroll.
Pete Carroll. Yeah.
The Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll guy.
Hey, I'm out. So he's just hoping that Coach O will come to Michigan State in like six years.
Yeah. Almost bail them out.
Actually, Nick Saban. Go home.
Nick Saban, how bad would it be if Urban Meyer went there?

Oh, that would be so funny.

Beat the fuck out of Michigan from the other angle?

Yes.

You know the thought has occurred to him in the last six

hours. Oh, man.
I think it's Luke Fickles

going there, coach of Cincinnati, who was

coach of Ohio

State. So maybe that's, maybe

that will be the way that

Michigan State gets back on top of Big Brother.

Which one's Big Brother now?

Big Brother's Michigan.

Still?

That's what they say.

I don't know.

I feel like they're twins.

No, that time that they won the national championship by beating the YMCA of Detroit in 1902 still counts.

Yeah, didn't they teach the Red Cross how to do a forward pass?

They invited schools to come play football and teach them how to play football, then beat them by like 70 and put it on the record books. It's a great gig.
Honestly, yeah. It's a great gig.
I respect it. That's kind of what the DNC did to Bernie.
If Wisconsin had the foresight to do that, I'd be talking about those national championships. Yes.
On a personal note, I don't know what category we need to put this under, but I'm feeling a little directionless after NFL season's over. Okay.
Don't you have the XFL? Well, I do have the XFL, and we'll discuss that next week. I'll say it's good.
You'll say it's bad. Or you'll be honest.
I never said it was bad. I said it was going to be honest.
But I feel like what I like to do every offseason is get a new hobby, like improve myself, better myself for all this sounds like a fire fest sounds like a fire fest um yeah to watch basketball i could watch your miami heat i could watch my miami heat i could also i i've been meaning to get that gwyneth paltrow show the goop about her vagina yeah the vagina candle she makes yeah well it's it's about it seems like it's a bunch of stuff that wasn't well written enough to go on like a closed Facebook group. So Netflix said, hey, let's just give you a TV show where you put out all your junk science.
It seems interesting to me. So I feel like maybe I don't know.
Maybe I'll get into the goop. That works.
This offseason. Let's goop.
You want to goop it up? You want to goop it up? Yeah, let's be a goop podcast. We'll rehash the goop.
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Mark Cuban. Okay, here we go.
Let's go. It's the boss, man.
What's up? We now welcome on Mark Cuban, a guest we have been lusting after for many years. I was one of your first guests way back in the day.
No, no, this is the video. So I've wanted you to come on part of my take for a very long time.
Yeah, that's true. And it so happens we are in Miami.
We're taping this right before the Super Bowl. The Penn National deal gets announced, and a lot of congratulations come my way.
All of a sudden, I look at my email i have an email from mark cuban replying to an email asking him to come on pardon my take from 2017 yep that's a power move to just reply to a three-year-old like wasteland you know thread sometimes you got to take your time to get it right so you you replied and we have to we're going to talk about everything but we have to at least address this at first because you had an opportunity not only to invest in my brain but to have half of barstool for free yeah any buyer's remorse no because you wouldn't have even had to buy it no because who needs the fucking money i got plenty of that shit you don't want 250 million dollars it was $160 million. Don't exaggerate.
Oh, you looked at the deal. You looked at the deal.
And he don't own it all. I'm a Shark Tank motherfucker.
All right, you got it. So wait, so did you, I mean, do you remember when we came in and pitched it to you? Think about it.
It was one of the best. I mean, that was one of the best skits ever.
Yeah. Think about it.
Oh, it was real. Oh, yeah.
Think about it. Yes.
No, well, think about it. Trademarking.
Think about it. Yeah.
Okay. Because now you're thinking about it.
Oh, you owe me money. Now I'm using your...
I've been thinking about it for years. Right.
I've been thinking about it now. So you owe me money.
I owe you money, but you didn't trademark it. Think about it.
But I did. You did.
Of course you did. I was actually very upset with that video because Big Cat...
This is before I worked with Boris. Yes.
But Big Cat hit me up. He's like, hey, I'm about to sit down with Mark Cuban.

We're going to pitch him some stuff.

Do you have any ideas?

I gave him a great idea,

which we've subsequently pitched to Rob Gronkowski,

who loves it.

But you shot it down in about half a second.

It's called Brotein.

Brotein, it's an after-workout drink.

It's got alcohol in it.

It still sucks.

It's got caffeine in it. So what you do, you hit the gym you work out you drink your protein you get your alcohol because you're ready to go out for the night and you've got caffeine in it to get you going for the rest of the evening so i feel like it's an all-in-one drink so it's four loco with protein exactly that's exactly what i'm going for and college kids would eat that shit up and i was a little bit offended that you uh that you shot it down so quickly deal with it if you had the bell you would hit it you would hit the bell again that little bell that you were just you know it's just so easy right because not everybody likes the same kind of alcohol and so you can go for local if you just want the buzz and the buzz right or you just whatever kind you like like I've invested in this company called BSB brown sugar bourbon and the shit's amazing right, right? It's going to take over.
It's just good. Check it out.
And so I'd want my bourbon in there. Gronk might want something else.
You might want vodka. Vodka probably goes better with protein, depending on what flavor of protein, right? And then your caffeine that goes with it.
There's just so many variables. You just see, when it comes to mixing caffeine and alcohol, you have be precise there's probably some regulations that come in so dangerous so i just pay off those motherfuckers okay wait so you do you the thing that makes me happy though is that you have been thinking about it i think about it think about it has been rattling in that in my mind yeah on my five years now five years think about it god damn it that's actually better than you buying us so do you regret though not investing in my brain for five years now.
Five years. Think about it.
God damn it. That's actually better than you buying us.
So do you regret though not investing in my brain? Because I just, I remember I was having some, I was gambling a little too much and I needed the cash. I need to get liquid fast.
And I was going to give you 10% of all future earnings for $1 million. Yep.
Do you regret that? No. That was a mistake though? No.
Because you think I would have just been lazy after you gave me the money yeah sometimes you know yeah like you said you want liquidity i wanted you to starve and struggle yeah and see look where you got you yeah right because if your back's not against the wall when shit's not you learn the most when shit ain't working right right and you have to hustle the most when you think it's the darkest and that's where the best entrepreneurs learn the best best lessons. So you owe me money for saving your ass.
It's true. And that video was very funny because Dave pitched Barstool to you.
You boiled it down to you guys are in the hard dick business. And you told Dave, you're like, you have a great product, but you work too hard and you need to find a way to make it easier to make it bigger and i remember dave when you said no i'm not investing dave walked out and he was like mark cuban likes us i just got to keep grinding it's like no it's the opposite what he said and finally we've realized you know we've hired 215 people that's man a ton of you know staff and every step along man.
I had my first company. I was 24 at the time.

And we had $84,000 in the bank.

And this lady, Renee Hardy, right?

We had it all set up.

I thought I used everything I learned at Indiana Business School.

And I'm like, okay, for our accounts payable, we print out the checks to the vendor.

And we just give it to Renee.

And Renee is going to put it into a little see-through envelope.

Lick them.

Mail them, right? Fucking Renee Hardy takes it to a fucking old typewriter, wipes it out, puts her name on it, takes it to the bank. Bank cashes the shit, right? So within one day, we went from having $84,000 in the bank to having $2,000 in the bank.
And all these unpaid vendors who were pissed, right, that we had to work through. It was horrible.
I i mean it was it was fucked up but best thing ever happened to us because it made us get our shit together and then you know that company turned into a 30 million dollar company that turned into another company that turned into streaming that turned into the maps right so you gotta you know sometimes your shit's gotta be against the wall to really get it going right and that's nice she left you two grand though yeah that was polite fucking bank right so i go to the bank and i'm showing him the checks and i this this lady whited out her name typed it in and you cashed it this old texan dude goes motherfucker you ain't got a pot to piss in do what you got to do i'm 24 years old and there's this head of the bank and i'm damn, right? I feel like there should be some regulation that should force banks not to take checks with whiteout on them. Well, you know what? That's why you never see that anymore, because we changed the law.
Right. There you go.
You're like Frank Abingale. A long time ago.
Yeah. A long time ago.
That's a crazy story. You and I are not so dissimilar.
You might not believe me right off the bat, but you got your start. You sold software i was first a used dog salesman then i sold software same thing uh chris you sold used dogs too no just software dogs you know okay whatever yeah whatever you can get your hands on yourself um now i'm doing this now i i've worked my way up to the point where i own a lacrosse team with big cat cool we own a uh a basketball team in new Zealand, the New Zealand Breakers in the NBL.
Wait, is that with Sean Marion? Yeah. Yeah, he's our business partner.
And my ultimate goal is to own the Washington Redskins. So I need some advice from you about how to get from where I'm at right now to get to my ultimate dream, which is taking that team from Dan Sny Snyder.
You got to find an angle, right? Because you've got your audience, you've got your partner now, but now that you sold it, right, you need something to get the cash to do that because it ain't going to be cheap, right? So the biggest fortunes are made with two things. Something that somebody does where everybody says, fuck, why didn't I think of that? And then you need a little bit of luck.
Like if we would come up with streaming, but the internet stock market wasn't happening, you wouldn't know who I was. I'd have a nice little streaming business, but I made a shitload of money because I was lucky the stock market was happening.
So you've got to have the right angle where everybody looks at it and goes, damn, if you come on Shark Tank, those are the best deals. I wish I had thought of that.
What about this? Uber, but with a dog in the car. So the Uber picks you up and there's a puppy that you can play with.
You also have to be capable of doing these things. I still use dogs.
I've got the connections with all my vendors back in the day. So I can staff it.
You go ahead and try. And maybe Daniel Snyder needs a dog in his car, and you guys will work out.
And then the dog kills Dan Snyder, and then I take his team for him.

There it is.

There it is.

You just said something that's interesting, though, because I feel like guys in your spot,

and maybe not everyone, but a lot of people in your spot who have had a ton of success,

they will not acknowledge the luck factor.

Oh, fuck yeah.

And luck, I mean, how much do you think luck played a part in everything that you built?

So I was rich before I got super rich, right? I sold my company. Pretty cool.
That's a cool thing to be able to say. There's a big difference, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's one. Like, I sold my first company.
I was 29, bought a lifetime pass in American Airlines, partied like a ride start. You know, I could just travel anywhere.
It cost me nothing, right? Just my goal was to get as fucked up with as many people as I possibly could around the world. And I was really good at it.
And then I started trading stocks, made 20 some million dollars doing that, started hedge funds, sold that. Then my buddy from Indiana came back and it was like the internet thing was starting to happen.
And this was 95 and Netscape had just gone public. And it was just like, wow, this whole internet stock market took off.
And I never thought we'd go public, right? We're just going to run a good business and see where it took us. But I mean, that's where it really, really happened.
And I remember, I'll never forget, we went public and it was July 18th, 1998. And I remember saying to my partner, Todd Wagner, that if the stock gets to 300, right, it was at 50 something, stock gets to 300, I'm a billionaire.
He goes, shut the fuck up. There's just no possible way.
And then the internet stock market just goes bananas. It goes berserk.
And I remember sitting in my house in second bedroom where I had a PC set up and it was getting close, right? Because it was going nuts. Hitting F5, the refresh key, right? And I'm sitting basically naked on this chair, hitting this thing, going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, until it hit it, bounced around, did my little billionaire dance song.
That's insane. It was insane, man.
Is that when you're super rich, when you're a billionaire? Yeah. That's the level? No, it's lower than that, trust me.
Right, right. But still, I never would have imagined a billion years, man.
If you would have told me growing up in Pittsburgh or when I was at IU, oh, yeah, you're going to be a billionaire, I would have been like, smoke some more crack, bro. Right, no chance.
But, you know, it does take luck. I don't care what anybody says.
You remember Lucky Sperm Club. You know, you came along at the right time.
Michael Jordan came along at the right time, right? Cable television was just starting to take off satellite TV that built his brand. He was the guy we watched, but if cable television had been 10 years later, it could, he could have been David Thompson.
Well, he was better than that, but you know what I'm saying? No, no, in terms of the icon and the shoes and everything, branding and the recognition and all that stuff, right? You guys, if you were 10 years earlier, it's a whole different gig. I absolutely agree.
Not just Barstool as a whole, but also this podcast. If we started it today, we would not get to number one.
We wouldn't because it's a lot more flooded. There's a lot more competition.
We were right place, right time. So I agree with that.
Luck matters. Luck is a huge is a huge thing yeah but also i feel like you can control luck a little bit if you if you maintain the same habits you know like eventually if you keep working at something if you have some good ideas you're going to get unlucky on a ton of them but luck is eventually yeah look it doesn't matter how many times you fuck up you only got to be right once yeah right then everybody tells you how lucky you are right you know it's just it's just part of it i mean i always tell people life is half random it's so random you just broke my brain i'm trying to do the statistics on yeah half random half random right there's just the shit you can control and you have no chance of randomly we were staying at a hotel right near where you were where i am walking down the street right that's random that is random okay i like that how many random emails do you respond to because i feel like you respond to everything no not everything anymore really now yes yeah i used to be able to i can't anymore um i don't know it just depends i read the first paragraph and if if i'm not into it delete i i remember when uh we were doing the video i think it's 2014 i was somehow included on an email that mark was included on and i was like fuck this i'm just gonna email mark cuban and you responded i was like what the hell probably responded like in a second right right because i probably still have that email i take it from a you know a big email where it's like coordinating with what time we were doing it i was like i'm gonna shoot my shot here why not um all.
So I just thought of a quote that you had that always struck me about the NFL. You said, pigs get fat, hogs go to slaughter.
Yeah, go to slaughter. Okay.
Now we're sitting here. Gambling changed a lot of that.
Gambling changed a lot of that. A lot of that.
A lot of that. But let's flip it.
The NBA ratings have taken a little bit of a dip. Totally right totally different i mean okay so people in your audience cord cutters right if your show's on television ain't nobody watching it right because it's an older audience on traditional tv and that's what's happened to us we've got a much younger audience if you look at the average viewer's age for the nfl it's like fox network right it's It's like 67 years old.
I don't know exactly, right? It's in the 60s. Whereas with the NBA, it's a much younger audience that cuts the cord.
So if you look at our streaming numbers, they're really, really good. If you look at our social media numbers that we're starting to get paid more and more for, they're really, really, really good.
And so, yeah, our numbers are down primarily on TNT, which doesn have as much courage and and as much um linked to younger audiences or even middle-aged audiences as espn does so our espn games are doing okay right they're flat up a little bit and it was zion being back and everything they're going to be up even more um but yeah on on tnt it's not as good and the nfl is all on broadcast right right and that makes a big difference do you think there's anything so i've heard a million different theories uh you know players moving around where the guys don't stay with the same team i mean look at the nfl nobody stays other than the quarterback nobody stays that's fair uh the you know the competitive you know the warriors and lebron obviously have shared titles yeah and everyone because we have so many Warriors games scheduled, right? We have Warriors games and Pelicans games scheduled for Zion, and they're all hurt. Right.
That's going to fuck you up. But are you nervous at all about the length of the season? No.
You're not nervous about like you flip on an NBA game? Because I watch the NBA. I watch pretty much every Bulls game.
But if I flip on a random game on a Tuesday night in February, there are times when you can tell it's not always, you know, max effort. And also it doesn't feel – the NFL always feels life or death because it's 17 weeks.
Yeah, but it is and it isn't, right? When teams are 3-3, right? When the Bears start off 2-5. It's panic.
Yeah, well, you know it's over. Right.
No, still in the hunt. Okay, depending on what division you're in.
Right? It's not looking good. Yes.
Right? There's a chance, but, you know, it's just not. The thing about football on TV, A, it's on broadcast.
So that's important because everybody can get it, right? Streaming, whatever. Anybody.
It doesn't cost you anything. Two, you only have to watch 12 minutes.
You can do anything else you want during an nfl game you can write a novel you know you can go on a date you know and it doesn't matter because there's only 12 minutes of action in an nba game it's a little bit harder yeah because you're watching 48 minutes of action there's always something going on right and nhl doesn't translate well to tv but it's got it of got the same thing. It's 60 minutes of action.
And so to stay with the whole game, it's a commitment. The NFL has no commitment to watch.
You're watching your fantasy league more than you're watching, because you've got all that downtime and all that dead time. That's the difference.
So I'll give you an example. If an NFL, an NBA game was 20 minutes, and we played 150 of them, you wouldn't care, right? Because those 20 minutes are going to be jacked the whole was 20 minutes.
Right. And we played 150 of them.

You wouldn't care, right,

because those 20 minutes are going to be jacked the whole time.

Right.

Right.

So it's not the number of games, right?

It's the fact that it's a 48-minute commitment.

Now, so rather than shorter games,

should we consider 40 minutes?

I don't know.

That's something to consider.

I think the guys would be upset because it changes playing time and all that.

It changes historical stuff.

Yeah, and stats and all that kind of stuff.

And so it still works.

And part two to that is when you go to a game,

I'm going to go be upset because it changes playing time and all that. It changes historical stuff.
Yeah, and stats and all that kind of stuff. And so it still works.
And part two to that is when you go to a game. Like if you look at the NFL, and I haven't seen the latest attendance, but it hasn't been great.
Right. Right, because going to a game is a full commitment.
Yeah. You go to an NBA game, it's a blast.
It is, and it's two and a half hours. It's true.
And it's two and a half and a half hours and it's not bad right and it's something going on all the time so how much uh do you watch like the growth the you know decline of every major sport how much are you it's my business yeah i'm very tuned in i pay attention to all that stuff right because it's my business and you know i always try to find angles and you know different ways of combining information or looking at different ways. So, you know, having a conversation like this, it's not like everybody's writing that the NFL is 12 minutes of action and the NBA is 48 minutes of action.

Right. They're saying they just look at the total viewers.

Total viewers isn't really a reflection of anything.

Right. No one talks about the average age of the audience.

No one talks about the minutes consumed in social media.

You know, there's you don't look on social media on Instagram and see a shitload of football. No, it's true.
You don't see baseball. You don't see hockey.
What do you see in all your highlights? You watch more high school highlights on Dunkademics and Ball is Life and everything else. They sound like high school websites.
What's that? Dunkademics and Ball is Life? Yeah. Those are real websites? Well, Ball is Life.
They sound awesome. Ball is Life, right? They're Instagram, and I don't know if they got websites, but not on Instagram, right? Right.
It's interesting that you brought up Major League Baseball because they are very strict about what you can post on social media. Yeah, they're fucked.
You can't take a highlight of your screen. You can't record it and post it.
They'll shut your account down because their logic is they want to monetize all those views through their own proprietary feeds. The NBA is the exact opposite.
And so why is that strategy worked out for you guys? Why is Major League Baseball, do you think, so dead set about doing it their way? Major League Baseball, I mean, Rob Bowman, the new guy, is a little bit better. But when they had Bud Selick, it was 1927 every year.
He had no clue about what was going on, besides the fact he wanted to keep me out, and I think he's an idiot. That pissed me off.
Yeah, well, I'm kind of happy now. Free cubes.
Free cubes, hashtag free cubes. Free cubes, right? And the Rangers, and before the Pirates.
But in any event, so with the NBA, we're able to monetize that because we do licensing deals with Twitter and we do them with Instagram and all platforms, right? And those numbers are going up because they're making money off of advertising and we'll make more and more and more money from that. But more importantly, like, all of our players, you know who they are.
Not just the big names like LeBron and everything, but, you know, they come in. Now they're coming into the game because of their social media followings as brands.
Zion, you know, everybody was big name before he even got there. Right.
And kids have their own, you know, they'll have 200, 300, a million social media followers before they even get to college. Right.
And then by the time they get out of college, we know who these guys were, you know, because they're dunking or whatever. And so by the time they get to the NBA, they have a following.
And the difference between the NBA and all these other leagues is our players drive the league. We give them the ability to talk about themselves, about anything they want.
It could be political, it could be game, it could be whatever you want. And that builds a following and that following and that connects fans add to that 2k right if you're playing 2k and you're building your teams right you know almost every player in the league right right if you pick the mavs you know one through 15 if you bounce around because you're friends you know one through 15 of any team you're working with right who's playing mlb right who's playing nhl who's playing even nfl you know madden or whatever madden's still big it's big but you don't know all the players yeah right there's 53 you're playing you know whoever you don't even know who's playing yeah and so we you know our guys they drive our following and so that's why when you look at the ratings we're building basketball fans right we're, because they don't get traditional cable and satellite, we're not converting them.
We're not keeping as many of them because they're cutting the cord, but they're not not becoming NBA fans. Whereas you looked at the NFL, if they lose people from TV, I mean, they got fantasy and you got gambling.
Yeah, and you got gambling. But you don't know.
I mean, I was at a thing earlier today, and I'm meeting all these football players that I knew by name. I had no idea who they were by looking at them.
Right. So it sounds like you're making the bargain that it's worth it to get people invested in your product.
You might not be monetizing it as efficiently as you could right now.

Right.

But it's better to have those people as fans for life,

and you'll figure out how to gradually improve.

You always want to disrupt yourself.

Ooh.

Ooh.

That's cool.

Before you let somebody else do it for you.

Uh-huh.

You eat a big bowl of chili.

Yeah, right.

Right.

And so you've got to understand what's coming your way.

And we know social is always going to be evolving you know and we're going to be right there and we're going to connect the fans however they want to connect the nfl again if you look at the average age on television keeps on getting older you know now they still have a bigger audience than the 1849 right which is like the tv money pot than we do a much bigger audience but it's getting closer i'll give you a perfect example not to get too much in the weeds but like shark tank shark tank used in for 18 to 49 we used to try to pull a 2.0 five six years ago now we pull a 0.8 which is good for broadcast television the nba and espn used to be that the nba and espn youPN pulling 2 million people was good, and we'd pull a .8, maybe a 1.2 in the demo, 18 to 49. It would never be conceivable that a broadcast, a game on cable would match what Shark Tank would do.
Never in a million years. Now we both do .8s, .7s, .8s eights right so we're holding on to audiences better at the nba particularly younger audiences than even broadcast television is so even though it might not you know when you look at total viewers that's distorting it's not telling the whole story so you bring up shark tank let's talk a little shark tank sure uh and we're moving to when's this going to air when you're putting it up probably in the next couple weeks i know you have it come the new season's coming out right Well, no, we're moving to Friday night.
So we're moving to, when's this going to air? When are you putting it up? Probably in the next couple weeks. I know you have it coming, the new season's coming out,

right? Well, no, we're moving to Friday night.

So we're on season 11 right

now and we've been on Sunday nights

and starting the end of February we will be

on, we've been on Sunday nights and starting

the end of February we'll be on Friday nights on ABC.

Perfect. And Hulu.
Perfect. Alright, so

we'll put this out right around then so we can

check it out then. So,

who's your biggest rival? Nobody. Come on.
For real? Come on. Who do you think it is? Well, when Robert cries, that's a tough one.
Because he really pulls at everyone's heartstrings. He's like, I mopped the floors at my dad's factory and that whole thing.
That would always get, like, if I was standing there and he started doing that, I'd be like, yeah, I want to work with you. Kevin, obviously, he does, Kevin is just, literally every single deal, he just wants to license it and take no risk.
Yeah, and royalties, and you're exactly right. Yeah, so, but I would actually say, like, Lori might be your biggest royalties.
Lori can be. Lori can be for retail products.
Right. Right, because she likes to sell all the tchotchkes and all the stuff.
Right, and she's better at it than me. So I typically, that's not my gig.
And so she is better than me at those. I like your product.
Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
It's a hero, yeah. But then she gets so syrupy.
Oh my. Well, let me rephrase Big Cat's question.
Who would say that you're their biggest rival? Ooh. All of them all of them you against the world me against the world come on baby how much when someone walks in are you like if their product sucks but you can see it in their eyes you're like i'm just gonna invest because i know the person um it depends on the bigger picture like if i send in a message so if it's a veteran if it's a woman entrepreneur um entrepreneur, if it's someone from my hometown, Pittsburgh or Indiana, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
But I have to really see something in them. Like they're a great entrepreneur, but the product just needs massaged a little bit, right? Or the service needs just massaged a little bit, then I'll go for it.
Right. But if it, if it it's a great entrepreneur but i just don't see the product product i don't get it then it's not going to matter so you've never been like throw the product out give me you one time one time the guy who came out with um i want to draw a cat for you oh yeah i remember that guy yeah and so um that was the only time And one other two times The other time was Stefan what the fuck

Tower Paddleboards Yeah, I remember that guy. And so that was the only time.
And one other two times.

The other time was, Stefan, what the fuck, Tower Paddleboards, which is now Tower E-Bike.

Because they were really, both of them, this was nine years ago for one and seven years for another.

They were both really good at SEO when SEO really mattered.

So it didn't matter what the product was.

They knew how to sell.

And so that's why I invested in both. And I've made, you know, I want to draw a cap for you i made like 50 grand and then he got out but um i've made millions off of tower paddleboard wow yeah that's cool has there ever been anybody that walked in the door and like just straight up judging a book by his cover being like nope i'm out oh yeah like just just so here's here's the secret behind the scenes right so i've done so many deals the hard part isn't yes to a deal.
The hard part is just saying no because I'm so tired of them, right? And so all of us, when they walk in, if it doesn't immediately catch our attention, it's like, how am I going to go out? So you're not even thinking about, okay, what do I think about this? All you're doing is thinking to yourself, how the hell do I go out and sound smart, right? And so I'm listening for things to come up with reasons to go out. And then every now and then I'll go out and somebody will say something or they'll say something I didn't expect.
And then if I like it, I'll go back in. I just realized that's what you did to me for protein.
You're listening and you're like, no, I'm going to steer away from this because there are too many options. Then I'm going to list different types of liquors and overload them with information as I bow out gracefully.
Right. So yeah, you executed that perfect.
I'll just show you because my skill, like my greatest skill is being able to look at a business and know exactly how it works and what would make it successful. And so protein, you know exactly what's going to be involved.
And I can tell you in two seconds what you're going to have to do to make it work or why, what your challenges are going to be. And that's what I'm able to do with pretty much any kind of business.
What about gift shirts? I pitched that to you six years ago. Yeah, I remember that pitch.
That's how memorable it was. That one.
No, that one. Science hadn't caught up to my brain yet.
I think we're finally there. I saw a gift hat.
Yeah. The other day.
Shirts that just have gifts, moving gifts on the shirt. You wouldn't wear the gifts.
Oh, gifts as a GI gift. Gifts, gifts.
Yeah, yeah, GI gifts yeah yeah yeah i've seen a bunch we actually had some on shark tank for those and i told you six years ago it was coming yeah so now you really think like hey this guy maybe not be so crazy yeah i don't see you quitting your job to go sell him yeah probably not probably not but that was a good idea i like that it's still a good idea yeah oh and the the The Detroit one the um i what was it called what oh no not the frambulance the the one where it was basically sell gyms in an airport plots no it was uh dentist on a airplane dentist on an airplane what you hate traveling you hate going to the dentist dentist chair on an airplane kill two birds with one stone yeah I don't know about the economics there. That makes sense.
Right. I agree.
I mean, you just make the whole thing a medical office, right? Perfect. Go to the doctors.
So you agree. Yeah.
Gynecologist. Do it all.
Urologist. Do it all.
Yeah, you get it all. Or the other one.
Just call it the cockpit. The cockpit.
What? See how quick you are. What? Boom.
Now we're cooking. Damn.
The other was driving. Oh, yeah.
We have more waters. Yeah.
Driving with a treadmill in the back of a truck. So while you're going to your commute, you can work out.
I like the treadmill on the plane better. Okay.
I do that. Jim Airport.
I think there's some money to be made there. Also, just.
People try that. Some have worked.
Some have it. What about Uber? But it's like a U-Haul truck, and it's got bed in the back.
That way, people can get a U-Haul, and they can go have sex instead of getting a hotel room. It's cheaper just to get a Chevy van, just rent a van.
It's true, but maybe you want to be driven around on a bumpy road, use some of the motion of the car. We're just spitballing here.
Get an old ass 1994 Lincoln limousine. Yeah, really bad struts on it.
Bad shock absorbers. Okay.
How much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Luca? 10,000. And how much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Dirk? 10,000.
No, you got... Same.
Same. One's just the older brother.
There's just family, right? No, no, no. They're both in their prime and one of them's going to die.
Either they both die or you have to save one and the other one will die. I'll put it a different way.
The advantage Luka has right now over what Dirk had is that Luka can bring the ball up. So Luka can take the ball out, get the ball inbounded to him, and just go coast to coast.
Right? And take it from there. Dirk, that wasn't Dirk's game.
Now, Dirk's a far better shooter. So if you have a great point guard with Dirk, then when you had Jason Kidd.
Or like a Steve Nash. Or Nash.
Right? Right. Yeah.
That's still painful. Whoops.
Yeah. Whoops.
Big whoops. Worst deal I've ever made.
Worst mistake I've ever made at the Mavs. But it just depends, right? I mean, Dirk, best seven-foot shooter ever in the game, but someone had to get him the ball.
Right. And when we didn't have a good point guard, we weren't very good.
Right, right. And Luka's still going to get a lot better.
He's still not a great shooter. Yes.
It's kind of bullshit that you went from Dirk to Luka.

Look, there were three painful motherfucking years in there.

Yeah, but you were tanking.

You got fined for it, right? I know.

I know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It makes it even more painful.

Yeah.

Absolutely worth it.

Absolutely.

Stupid as shit.

You think it's stupid that you can't tank?

Do you think there's a fix to that?

No.

I got fined for it.

I think you just don't like being told what to do.

Right.

You figured that out? Yeah. You've calmed down.
Your problem your problem isn't like you i've got people got used to me yeah they've gotten used to me now like i was the only owner that would stand up and talk shit talk about refs or at a game beat like now michael jordan sits right next to their bench right and like you know the owners the younger owners or people more into it they're all you know doing I was doing. Right.
And even when I say shit now, they don't even find me like they would have in the past because it's like they know it only helps the cause. Right.
That's Mark being Mark. Right.
Do you guys have like an email thread amongst the owners? No. No? No.
Have you gotten an email from Dan Gilbert in Comic Sans? Yes. And hey, shout out to Dan.
I mean, he had the stroke. He's supposedly getting a lot better oh that's right yeah yeah that's my guy yeah get well dan uh speaking of a guy that's not your guy where are you at with broussard oh who yeah okay craig yeah yeah oh chris yeah craig broussard worked for me at my first company yeah craig broussard you know he worked for me at Micro Solutions my first company i stole literally this is true he did programming for a porn company and we wanted to upgrade our e-commerce and and get our networking better who knows more about networking coming out of for a porn company i actually think that that's where a lot of technological innovations come from is the porn industry absolutely vr yeah i tried that's true.
I haven't tried it yet. It's on my list.
You look like a man that's tried VR porn. What's your number? VR number.
My VR number? Yeah. Oh, my VR number.
Yo, yo. Have you tried the Oculus Quest at all or any of the Oculus VR? I have not.
No, you get all the cool stuff that we don't know. Yeah, I go out and mess with everything because I need to find out out what works like to try to give me an edge okay so along those same lines how fucked are we with like cyber security like everyone owns everything you know you know there's two types of companies and people those who have been hacked and those who have been hacked and don't know it right and so it's just going to happen to everybody because you get dudes you know girls guys whatever that it's it's a challenge right and they just sit there for days at a time like when i used to write software i remember sitting there taking on projects and i start coding and i look up and it's like 24 hours later you know and i didn't even realize i thought it was like two hours later and so it's such a you know intellectual challenge there's always someone trying to crack everything whether you're from Iran, Ukraine, Russia, China, United States.
But the good news is because we have the most cloud and processing power over here, we've still got the edge. What about CyberDust? What happened to CyberDust? It's still rolling.
You can still hit me up at Blog Maverick. Oh, it is? Yeah.
I'm dusted. No, it's called dust now.
But yeah, it's called dust messaging. You can hit me up on there.
And I try to answer. I actually answered more of those than i do emails okay blog maverick yeah blog maverick okay i like i like yeah because i still do a d of dusting yeah i mean i still do a ton of business on there because it's like like when you have a face you walk outside you have a face-to-face conversation there's no record of it right right right you just know whatever and this this is the equivalent when no matter what the minute um you when you're done're done with a dust conversation, you can delete it right then or it automatically deletes in 24 hours.
Never touch on WhatsApp and Telegram or whatever. They save it, and if someone unencrypts it, someone else can go get it, which for business is not good.
But with ours, it's only in memory in the servers, and when it's gone, it's gone forever. The FBI, nobody can get it back.
And so it's just like a digital version of a face-to-face conversation i like that i like that a lot so dust messaging you grew up playing rugby yeah what position were you i started off the second row got the shit kicked out of me and then i went to um wing forward and eighth man okay cool so i i played for like 10 years yeah i played a long time i love the sport yeah i played down in texas for a while we're at uh austin on the austin hunts oh yeah yeah we were pretty good for for a couple years there i played for the um dallas holoquins for a while and then the reds okay yeah i played against both those teams i think there was um i want to say ryan moats the old nfl running back uh-huh played on one of those teams in his first game and absolutely lit the shit out of me oh just like sent me horizontal tackle yeah uh but it's it's been one of these things that we have as a running joke on the show that rugby is the sport of the future. No, that's actually not the joke.
Well, it's one of them. No.
It's never going to be awesome. I love rugby, man.
And I love it, too. And I want it to grow.
But it seems like it's one of those sports that it's almost like cult status. It's big in college communities.
Yeah, like if you played it. If you played it, you know it and you love it.
It's going. But as it turns out, you know, Major League Rugby, right? Guy who worked for me for 15 years, George Killibout, just became the commissioner.
And so they're in good hands now. You've got to get sponsors and you've got to learn how to sell it.
And he's a great salesperson. So if it's going to happen, he's the guy to do it.
I mean, I'll go to games. I'll watch them like when they're on TV.
I'll watch the games. I'm not a sevens guy, though, so I'm a 15s guy.
Same. Yeah, so when you watch these guys beat the – just like we played, right? And so, yeah, I'll watch it every chance I get at World Cup.
Like, Steven Adams comes through. I give him the shit about why the All Blacks didn't go anywhere in the Rugby World Cup.
Right. Yeah, it's one of the sports that I feel like it's hitting, it's hit a ceiling several times.
I just don't know if it's ever going to get to that next stage. It's got a chance to.
It really depends on who gets behind it. They're getting better owners now.
And, like, the sad thing is, like, I'm probably the most famous rugby player in the United States, right? That's how sad it is. It's probably me now, actually.
It's probably true. And I'll hand you the crown willingly.
IU is really pissed because most of the money that I give to school, with the exception of this media thing, is all to the rugby team. I was going to ask about that.
Why haven't you made Indiana basketball good again you can't I created the Cuban Media Center

so that

they can create recruiting videos

and use internal analytics tapes

and I gave them all this equipment

it's a nice spin zone

but it's true

Coach Miller

it's his deal right

I know how college recruiting works

if you just have

college coaching works

you could just hire Steve Kerr

Thank you. Yeah.
But can you write – I know how college recruiting works. Like if you just have – or college coaching works, you could just hire Steve Kerr.
Yeah, but you still got to recruit the right guys, right? Yeah, but you wrote a big enough check. I mean, it's not even that, right? There's lots of great coaches that are out there, but you got to recruit the right guys.
And if it were that easy, I'd do it, right? But, you know. $100 million to have Coach K be the Indiana coach.
I don't think it'd make a big difference. I think he'd do it.
Yeah, I don't think he'd make a big difference. What about bring Tom Cream back? I love Tom Cream.
That's where I got sides. Yeah, I love Tom Cream, man.
Tom Cream's the best. That was really the last time I really connected with IU on basketball because I thought he was a great coach.
I had no idea why they got rid of him. He's a great person, too.
Yeah, I love him. $100 million for Brad Stevens.
Bring him home. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he'd move.
Yeah, I don't think he'd move. That much money? I'm just saying, if I had your money, I'd be throwing all of it at Wisconsin and trying to get people to live.
Yeah, $100 million, I'm not going to do it for it. I mean, I don't mind giving money, but $100 million for the basketball pro.
Yeah, but think about how cool it would be at the Final Four. I've been to Final Four.
You can buy and make it to the Final Four. It would be cool.
I never got that about wealthy benefactors and stuff for college football teams that will write these $5, $6, $7 million checks, and then they just do it so that they can root for a better team. It's like you need ownership.
If I to own the team i want some of the upside well no no like i'm gonna root for the team no matter what right right i want them to win but it's not like the mavs like the mavs you know i live and die by every game right i you i want them to win i love watching the games right you know but it's not going to make a break it's the difference between rich and super rich because super rich guys buy the team. Rich guys can be boosters and almost mini ownership.
You just can't really own a college team. But I'll tell you a story.
You want to hear a story? Yes. I'll tell you a story.
So before the college playoff system was going around, I was with a group and we were putting together our own college playoff system. And we were going to buy in and do it.
And then kind of pushed them to create the college playoff system i'll say that you know i'll take credit for it whether or not what but i also called up a couple conferences and i said what if we wrote you a 50 million dollar per school check to take over basketball from the ncaa's you would leave you wouldn't be able to be in March Madness, and you wouldn't be able to be in Final Four or anything, but you're going to get a $50 million check right off the bat, and you're going to have a better TV deal, and we're going to own your conference, and it's just going to be like rugby. Like, you know, it's just going to be a separate business.
And they just, they were terrified., they were terrified. Too scared.
Yeah. Yeah.

It probably did shock them

into some change though.

Well,

I don't know,

but you know,

it's like,

imagine the kind of the format

was you create a company

called the big 10,

big 10 Inc.

Right.

And you write the checks

to all the,

the,

the teams,

all the schools.

And not only do they get the check,

but they own part of the company.

Right.

Right.

Makes sense. Right.
Think about it. It's just the change is too scary.
Think about it. I like that.
Think about it. I'm thinking about it right now.
It makes sense. What do you think about the prospects for the XFL to succeed? I mean, it's got a chance, right? Because it's, again, watching football, it's 12 minutes.
Right? So it's really easy. It's's just you got to get the right cities because there's some cities that support football 25 000 people show up no matter what yeah right san antonio they're going to show up no matter what memphis they're going to show up right um you know so if they can get people to show up so it looks good on tv and they get some numbers you know they can last can last, you know, they just got to keep their costs lower.
Like the guys behind, what was it? The AFL? AF. That was the biggest part is we thought it was like an insurance company.
I need an L or an A or something. Yeah.
I mean, they tried, they had the right idea, but they wouldn't, you know, I remember talking to them and it was like, you got to get a deal where you can sell your players to the NFL. It's like European basketball.
We'll pay $750,000 to the team to get Luka out of his contract. You've got to set up a deal where that way you're truly a player development league, and if one of your guys go to the NFL, you're making money.
And you figure $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 and if you're making $750,000 a pop, that's enough to help support a league. They were like, we can't see how to get there.
The NFL won't do this or that. What if they were to pay Trevor Lawrence, a superstar collegiate athlete that has one year left, pay him $30 million for one season.
They'd lose their ass.

In the XFL, you think that would be a bad investment?

Yeah, people don't, you know, there's only a few basketball players

that people pay just to go see.

Most of them go for the experience of the game, right?

And football is even more so like that.

You know, do you really go to see Tom Brady play?

Are you rooting for teams, cities, history, all that stuff?

You know, it's a family tradition. You're rooting for the jersey, right? You like going to the games.
You like the tradition of it. You like going with whoever you're going with.
It just doesn't work that way. I mean, I get to look at the Mavs numbers, and I know which visiting teams draw fans for individual players.
And it's far fewer than you think. It.
You know, it's more about selling our experiences. People, you know, if you think about the last, when was the last time you went to a Bulls game? Last year.
What was the score? Fuck, I don't know. Exactly.
You bet the over. Who were you with? Who were you with? I was with two buddies of mine.
And you had a good time? Yeah, it was a great time. That's the whole key, right? You don't remember the scores.
You don't remember the dunks. You went, you went, y'all drinking and hanging out,

having fun,

checking people out.

That's what games are all about.

They lost to the Knicks,

which was bad because the Knicks were terrible.

Yeah.

But you get the point,

right?

Yeah.

And football,

it's like,

okay,

you go to root for your team

and there's 12 minutes of action.

And maybe since it's only 12 minutes,

you remember,

you know,

this run or that pass,

right?

But you don't,

you're not going to see an individual player. So paying Trevor Lawrence or anyone or any five ones isn't going to make the difference.
How's the new hip? Both of them are good, man. You got double? I've got two of them, 2007 and 2014.
I'm outplayed. The only thing I can't do is play rugby.
I go back for my old boys' games, and that's the only thing that scares the shit out of me. The one was going to pop out if I hit somebody.

But you actually still try to play.

You play on the silverback side?

No,

no,

no,

no,

no,

no.

I mean,

I,

no,

I don't play in the old boys games anymore.

I played,

I played one half after I got the first one done and I'm like,

no,

no way.

Cause I got hit one time and I'm like just grabbing onto it.

I'll play pickup.

I still go.

I'll play pickup.

Yeah.

I'll play run.

How's the game going?

My game's still good. I can still shoot.
I've worked with Matt's shooting coachops? Yeah, I play hoops, play run. How's the game going? My game's still good.

I can still shoot.

I've worked with a mass shooting coach,

so it got even better.

Oh, hell yes.

That's a nice perk.

Yeah, the problem is, like,

you hit a point.

One year, like, you're jumping

and you feel good,

and the next year, it's like,

you can't stop and you got no bounce.

Right.

I've heard that with those hip surgeries,

you can just, like,

walk out of the hospital later on that day.

Yeah.

No, I walked out.

Yeah, I mean, you're taking drugs, right?

But I was walking that same day.

If you go back to my Instagram account,

I, like, tag everything that I was doing

and I walked out of the hospital later on that day. Yeah.
No, I walked out. Yeah, I mean, you're taking drugs, right? But I was walking that same day.
If you go back to my Instagram account, I tag everything that I was doing and track it. And yeah, I mean, same day I was up and walking.
Next day I was on crutches. The next day I was good.
I remember that. That's because I remember your Instagram being like following along.
Yeah, doing all my rehab and everything. And it feels a thousand times better.
Yeah, I was like, I want a new hip. Yeah, why not, right? Yeah, if you get one, you know, get one on the plane,

just do it, why not?

You wake up, you feel a thousand times better, fuck it.

Exactly.

All right, this has been awesome.

Hockey is on.

And no matter the city, no matter the team, no matter the game,

whether it's face-off or penalty shots, regular season or playoffs,

We'll be right back. No matter the game.
Whether it's face-off or penalty shots. Regular season or playoffs.
Win or lose. No matter what happens.
No matter where it happens. New Amsterdam Vodka is there.
Are you the oldest person on TikTok? No. You are big on TikTok.
I love TikTok, man. Are you bullish? With that? Are you bullish on TikTok? Oh, fuck yeah.
Oh, yeah, I love it. Even though they're stealing all of our identities? Yeah, who cares, man? Okay, cool.
Fine, I know. Yeah, I don't give a fuck, right? You tiny bunny.
What are they going to do? You know, Mark Cuban, you know, whatever. What are they going to do? Right.
Mark Cuban. Yeah, I mean, I guess, but like, what if you take out our faces? Yeah, faces.
And they're creating like AI and robots over China ai and right you're rich enough that you can just change your face once they figure this all out i'm the one doing the ai so i got this company synthesia right where we could just over um we could take um train a voice to put on anybody right so they got we did a thing in um when the mass went to china two years ago um i trained it you sit in front of the um the computer the video and they train it using ai and then they get these native chinese speakers and it looks like i'm saying it right because it matches all up i got another company um wait wait how many companies you have like a first company sounds evil oh no it's not evil yet are you doing evil it's really for business so let's just say um you want to take Bleacher Report this, right? And so if we get you guys sitting there and training it for like 20 minutes, and you want to have it done in native Chinese or native Spanish or whatever, so it looks like you guys are doing the podcast or your guest is doing the podcast in that language, works. You want to do an ad? We should do that.
Oh, no, it's crazy. We've got to get into the Chinese podcast market.
We absolutely should. You should.
And absolutely explode. Damn should absolutely explode damn so we just have to speak english and then you're yeah it does all the rest of where you then you get you know someone else will translate it so imagine like movies where they dub it in and it sounds also you know really stupid right it'll all look real and you don't have to do this probably like 600 million chinese potential so wait so for tiktok right so for tiktok i got this other company, 2020 CV, Computer Vision.
And so he's doing this thing with dogs where he can replace your face with a picture of your puppy. And it's starting to look 3D.
And so we don't have it down completely yet, but using artificial intelligence, you're sitting there talking. You got a dog and you replace your face with the dog's face.
It's fucking hysterical. And of course that will work because everyone, like, what does the internet love? Dogs.
Dogs, right? Cats, right? That's genius, right? You can't really take, it's hard to take videos of your cat and get them to stand there, right? Right. But with a dog, you can do it in whatever kind of dog you have.
And oh, it's funny as hell. What about cloning dogs? That's yeah I haven't gotten into that everyone would do that but I got this other crazy company it was a shark tank company for two hours I love this so when people die and get cremated they can take the ashes and create a diamond and now we're taking it so you can take a hair.
So like if you guys wanted to, for Dave, give him something special, a gift, right? Nope. Like a diamond, right? So just pull out a couple hairs out of his head.
Well, he's got fake hairs, but yeah. Oh, okay, if they're fake, it ain't going to work.
Yeah, it might not work. Okay, we'll get him to cut and landscape it.
Get him a diamond of himself? Well, not of himself, no, no, because you can create using the carbon that's in hair, right, or remains, right? You can use the carbon, put it into this device, and it takes like eight months, but it compresses it and creates a real diamond from the carbon in your hair. Holy shit.
Yo, it's crazy as fuck. That does seem nuts.
Yeah, it's crazy as fuck. When was the last time you just chilled out and just unplugged and didn't worry about stuff? I mean, I got kids, so I'm always worried about shit, especially a 16-year-old daughter.
Stay away. I got people looking out everywhere.
Are you a letter on social media? I'm not going to stop her. I can't stop her.
Is her account private and stuff? Yeah, her account's private, except on TikTok. Yeah, because some people, you're like, wait, why aren't you? No, there's some crazies out there.
Yeah, yeah, right. There's some crazies out there.
So, yeah, we have the talk and everything. Right.
Right. So, like, on Snapchat, when she turned 13, she's 16 now, I had to have the talk.
There's two types of people in this world, those who send nudes and those who don't. Once you do, you can never come back.
Right. Right.
And so I had, you know, Dad, you it's reality. You've got to do it, right? You've got to do it.
Absolutely. It's reality.
I'm like, dude ever asked you for a nude? You send them to me, one, because I'm going to kick his motherfucking ass. And two, you know.
You dust them. Yeah.
You just physically dust them. You're a different kind.
Dust them off the work. Our producer Hank's a nude guy.
Yeah, he's a nude, so he can never come back. They're forever out there, Hank.

I had an accidental nude put up by our intern one time,

but it was just a tip, so it's not like a full nude.

Yeah.

Have you ever thought about doing a podcast?

Yeah, it just takes too much time.

Yeah, but listening to you talk about your companies,

you should just do a podcast just for high people

where you're like, all right, I got this other company.

It's going to take your face. Yeah what was that oh fuck um chair oh fuck it I forget but another company no it was just Damian John and I in Shark Tank he's uh by the way he's kinda got a crush on us so watch out of course he does he's a risky he's come on and he wants us to be part of his whole entourage oh his empire his empire, his marketing empire.
Well, if you see us showing up to Shark Tank with Damien John, you're in trouble. Damien's my guy, man.
Whatever he does, yes. Now that you've given us all the secrets inside your brain, we can now more effectively help Damien.
And I'm good with that. I'm good with that.
I got no problem with that. Okay.
No, I'm good. My last question, do you watch Billions? Yeah.
Yeah, I've done cameos on it. Oh, that's right.
You did have a cameo. How much of that character of Bobby Axelrod do you think was based on you? None.
Yeah, none. None? None.
I mean, but I gave him advice like when Brian Koppelman was starting to write it and some of the battles I've had and shit I've gone through. So I gave him feedback, which helped inform what he was doing.
But Axe is now my guy, right? When he was trying to buy a football team, I'd sit there and give him some advice and help him out with different things. But Billion's a great show.
Brian Koppelman's a writer. Both those guys do a great job.
Yeah. Have you played basketball with him? Yeah, that's how I met him.
I went to Michael Jordan's camp. We had dinner with him a few months ago, and he said that he was a very good basketball player.
And I was like, I don't know. He can play.
Yeah, he can play. Yeah, we went to Michael Jordan's camp.
That's a rich guy thing, you know. Fantasy camp? He doesn't have it.
Yeah, the fantasy camp. They don't have it anymore.
Right. Well, if you ever need a few rebounds, you know what? One of the best parts of owning the team, like before almost every home game, I'm out on the court shooting at 4 o'clock.
I'll rebound for you. I mean.
I will. Literally, you know one of the best jobs now at the Mavs? We have guys that we hire as interns that have played college basketball or played semi-pro or whatever to come in and rebound for our guys and to also run plays to help them simulate stuff.
Best job in all sports. That is the best job.
Yeah, best job of all sports. All right, well, I'll be your personal rebounder anytime you want.
There you go. It's on.
Okay. It's not that you'd have much to do because you won't, but it's okay.
You're not that good of a shooter. No chance.
Where do you shoot from three? What do I shoot? I mean, I'm not playing in the league. Percentage.
No, but I can go around. If I get rolling, I can hit 15, 20 in a row.
Corner threes for sure. What? Corner threes don't count.
That's going to count. That's the easiest shot in basketball.
there's videos of me on my Instagram

and around the net

of me shooting

so you can go check it out

okay fine

you don't have to work

the ones that you make though

no I'm not the one

who puts them up

I don't put up

my own shit up there

it's not like I'm saying

take a video of me shooting

so when I'm down there

shooting before a game

and people are just

taking videos

whoops

yeah just random accounts

yeah

at not mark cuban

they tagged me right

mark cuban making it rain

yeah

it was wet

it was wet

you retweeted it

by accident

Thank you. Random accounts.
Yeah. Yeah.
At not Mark Cuban. They tagged me, right? Weird.
Mark Cuban making it rain. Yeah.
It is wet. It was wet.
You retweeted it by accident. Of course I retweeted it.
Of course. Of course.
Never the ones I missed. Yeah.
Mark, thank you so much. My pleasure, guys.
Appreciate it. You're a recurring guest now, though, so you have to come back on.
Absolutely. I'll come on here and pitch all kinds of shit.
Okay. All right.
Done. Thanks so much.
Hey. What's going on there, pal? We saw you at the hockey game.
Do I know you guys? I'm Ryan Whitney. I got a drink named after me.
Not a big deal. Pink Whitney? That's what I thought.
See you, fellas. I invented the thing, you pigeon.
Pink Whitney for legendary moments. All right.
Let's get to some segments. Bachelor Talk.
I feel like this one's popping, Hank.

Is this a popping season?

A lot of drama this season.

A lot of drama. It depends if you're in it for the love or you're in it for the drama.

I can just tell by the tweets that this is a good season.

The girls were very excited when Chris Harrison told them

they were leaving Cleveland and headed to Costa Rica with Pete.

Why?

I don't know.

I wonder.

Pilot Pete, right?

Pilot Pete.

Did they let Pete fly them down there? I don't think so. Has Pete gotten behind the joystick? Yes, a couple times.
Pete meets the girl for a group date with a band-aid across his forehead. He tells them that he fought a Puma in Costa Rica, but in reality, he bumped his head on a golf cart and slammed his head into a glass he was holding.
Pete sounds like a... I did see this part.
He walked up to the girl and was my god what's wrong with your head and he was explaining the puma story and he's like oh you know i was hiking alone and i came across a puma i did what i had to do and all the girls bought it they bought it like what oh my god and he's like just kidding i like i'm a he basically threw a glass into his own head no i mean that's the drunkest possible injury of all You tripped into a golf cart, and then the glass that contained your drink cut you in your head. And then he went, to his credit, he went and he told the big lie.
It's easier to say, like, oh, I got attacked by a murderous mountain lion, and I beat the shit out of it, than it would be to say, like, oh, I walked into my shower door by accident. Right.
Which I would have said because now they're thinking about you naked. And then there's just a whole lot of she said, she said, she said, she said, she said Tammy snitched on Kelsey to Pete saying that she's on the verge of a mental breakdown then accused Kelsey of being an alcoholic and popping pills to deal with her problems.
Kelsey then said she only takes Adderall and birth control. Oh, but basically every girl.
That seems good party It seems like every girl, they go on these one-on-ones And he's like, well, this girl said this about you And then they just roast another girl And so on and so forth I like the combination of Adderall and pregnancy pills though Or not pregnancy pills The classiest move is when you see a young upstanding lady Taking her birth control Swallallowing it with like a Bloody Mary. Yeah.
Or doing a line of Adderall. Wow.
Well, yeah. Doing all that stuff all in one and then being like, let's party.
And you know, it's a party. You know, it's a party.
Pistol Pete. No.
Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete.
I've seen. I don't like it.
I've seen Pilot Pete doing a lot of media. Is that normal for like in the middle of the season to have Pete talking to reporters?

He interviewed with the chicks in the office today.

Oh, he did.

Oh, well, go check out their podcast coming out soon.

Listen to that, but I want it for the record that if you're on The Bachelor, it seems like

you're doing it for the wrong reasons if you're just being a media whore.

I've been told some shit's going on because they're basically like-

You're not here for love.

They're already down to six girls. Things seem to be going quickly.
Got it. He's a decisive man.
Yeah, strange things are afoot, I would say. All right, we got a new segment.
New segment alert, Hank. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
Hope he sees this, King. This is for Rich Paul and the Knicks.
I was going to say it's James Dolan and the Knicks. Oh, James Dolan and James Dolan fired the president of the Knicks because he wants to get Masai Origi from the Raptors.
Okay. So it's like basically he's making a very public display of getting rid of the guy that he wants the new guy for, like that position that he wants the new guy for.
Like, look, we've moved on. Yeah, so James Dolan, hope he sees this king.
Hope Masai is attracted by your offer of firing the guy who he wants you to replace. So the Rich Paul part is he tweeted the muscles emoji, three of them.
Well, it was reports that the Knicks wanted to do the Lakers model. Right.
Having like an agent running. Of winning basketball games.
Right. Which they haven't done well recently, but now they are starting to win basketball games.
But yeah, the muscles emoji. So he's maybe saying, I'll take the job and I'll bring LeBron.
Rich Paul is president of the Knicks. Bronny Jr.
I love that because there's no chance in hell that LeBron James ever plays for the Knicks. No, absolutely no.
No chance in hell. If Rich Paul is the president? This is LeBron James being like, hey, use my name to get paid.
I don't mind. Tank it until my son is eligible and take him first.
I don't know about that. If Ronnie Jr.
is on the Knicks, do you think there's still 0% chance? No hell? No chance in hell? LeBron James doesn't want to put that spotlight on LeBron James Jr. That's true.
Chosen one. The king.
The prince. So you were taking this like literally hope he sees this king James.
Right. Yeah.
No, Rich Paul, I think, I mean, why not? Just become the president of the Kings. He tweeted a video of Bryce Maximus, his seventh grade son's AU team, and they have kids dunking all over the place.
Right. It's disgusting.
Also, Rich Paul. That should be technical.
Rich Paul being the president of the Knicks. Forget LeBron, you know who's the free agent after this year.

Anthony Davis, this league, all roads lead back.

They should go the Lakers model and instead of Palenka, just get Rob Lowe to dress up like Palenka.

Just hang out with an NBA hat.

Just be like, I'm the president now.

All right, guys on chicks, wrapping up Wednesday's show. My boyfriend will not stop asking me if we can 69 with him on top.
I am terrified of this. I am terrified of his butt in my face, but equally worried about his obsession with this and why he wants to, quote, unquote, reverse 69 me.
Should I do it? What are your thoughts on reverse 69? Sounds like you kind of have to eventually, because otherwise he's going to be annoying. Break up with him break up with him yeah it seems give it a shot it honestly seems like not a great not a great play for either party how much does he weigh that's the question if it's over 170 i think just don't do it or do it and then immediately say i can't breathe there should be yeah you should have a scale next to your bed anyways for these types of purposes when there's a gentleman caller.
But yeah, over that, it's like it's the measuring stick for you are too tall to ride this ride. Hey, PMT boys, especially Slim Cat.
My husband of six years, a huge AWL, is obsessed with the idea of peeing through my legs as I myself am sitting down to pee. That's funny.
I started out thinking it was a joke, but as he keeps bringing it up, I am beginning to think he's actually serious. Is this just normal guy stuff, or is my husband a complete weirdo? No, it's a test of your accuracy.
It's actually exhilarating. I've done the same before.
Like spelling something in the snow. He's also an environmentalist.
He's saving water and saving time. Right.
And time is money. Efficiency.
So really, he's making more money. He's getting a raise if you allow him to do this.
That benefits your entire family. I don't know if you ever played the old Madden games, the minicamp games.
Yeah, of course. But the one where you have to pass through the rings.
Yes. That's what he's doing right now.
He's working on some of the accuracy issues. There's no downside to this.
Zero. Only upside.
More money, better for the environment, accuracy, bonding time. Think about it.
You don't get to spend time with your significant other when they're in the bathroom. Now you do.
You are stealing back time. Very, very worst case scenario, he sprinkles a little bit on you.
Who cares? You got the toilet paper right there. It's actually the perfect place to get pissed on.
Yeah. Alright, speaking of that, good segue.
Hi everyone, especially slim cat. My boyfriend has a problem with always wanting to shower with me.
Every night he says, see you in the shower when I go in. Sometimes I just want alone time.
What should I do about him always wanting to come in? Showers are a sacred place. Yeah, you have a shower fucking in the shower.
That's like, now you're in porn. You could have it every night.
Porn every night. Not bad.
You could maybe pull a hank and just poop one time in the shower. Yeah, that's pretty much what you said.
This is a Honk Lockwood special. and then he'll never want to shower with you again.
Or just wait till turn on the shower and then start, I don't know, shaving your legs or doing something, some female thing that we don't understand, and then the minute he comes in, you'll be like, I'm not in the shower yet. He'll think twice.
That'll put a little hezy in his knees. Or you could just say that you showered a different temperature than him.
So just do one cold shower and say this is how I always shower. Yeah, say you watched a video from Business Insider that they tweeted out, a life hack about cold showers will make you a billionaire.
I watched The Goop, and Gwyneth Paltrow says if I take a cold shower, then the natural yeast in my vagina will clean itself.

And I'll never have to go to a gynecologist again.

And then he'll be like, I understand.

I think we've given you more than enough to work with here.

All right.

Last one.

Sup boys, especially 2020 Slim Cat.

A lot of Slim Cat today.

Wow.

One of my best friends had a messy breakup with their boyfriend.

They shared an apartment, so she asked if she could crash with me for a bit.

I said yes, but now it's been three months. What should I do? Wait, what? Three months? You gotta have a threesome.
Holy shit. No, it's just her.
Her boyfriend broke up with her boyfriend and said, hey, can I come live with you for a while? But the person who owns the home, or townhouse, excuse me, Big Cat, do they have a significant other? No. It's just a chick.
It's your friend. If you and Big Cat broke up and you came and lived with me.
Right. And said you're going to live with me for a bit and then you stay for three months.
Three months? We'd be getting after it. Three months is insane.
That's. I think you've got to just.
Send like a passive aggressive text like most girls do. Yeah.
Or just start charging her rent. Just send her a passive aggressive cash app request for the rent and see what happens.
And do the whole rent. She's got to pay all of it.
And then maybe you get free rent. Yeah, it's not bad.
I mean, just sending an invoice. Three months? Three months is a long time, especially if this was not agreed upon beforehand.
Here's what you got to do. watch like any Judd Apatow rom-com where I feel like this happens where they break up and then the person gets back

on their feet and starts crushing life.

And maybe just be like, hey, look, Christine Wig, she figured it out in Bridesmaids.

I think what you really have to do is just encourage her to move in with whatever the next guy that she hangs out with is.

Just talk up that next dude.

He's awesome.

Be like, that guy, he is so cool.

He's tall.

He's 5'8".

He's perfect for you.

He's got an apartment that's not mine.

Right.

Just like whatever it is, gas up the next guy she talks to.

Gaslighter.

To an obscene amount.

Yes.

And then, boom, she's moving out.

Oh, man.

All right.

That's our show.

We'll see everyone on Friday.

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Friday is going to be tough because it's going to be the first Friday without...

Thank you. Oh, man.
All right, that's our show. We'll see everyone on Friday.
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We'll do XFL team over-unders for the year.

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Everyone get ready.

We'll make sure that we have a great guest, but it's going to hurt.

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