Super Bowl 54 Is Set, Chiefs vs Niners + Trevor Bauer On Astros Cheating Scandal And More

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, Championship Sunday. We recap who's going to the Super Bowl.
We got it. Super Bowl 54 is booked.
Chiefs versus 49ers. We're going to recap both games.

Speaker 1 We've got a little who's back, Conor McGregor.

Speaker 1 And we have an interview with Trevor Bauer in studio. Talk Astros cheating and also Trevor Bauer basically being

Speaker 1 a strange guy. Very strange guy, but interesting guy.

Speaker 1 Does a lot of research on himself. He definitely has several Reddit accounts.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's like Elon Musk if he was a pitcher. That's a good description.
So interesting dude. Then we're Joe Rogan, too.
Yes. Elon Musk.
Yeah, so this is our first Joe Rogan interview.

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Speaker 1 Championship Weekend.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He's not gonna get him. We start in Kansas City, where the Chiefs' offense looked clueless in the first quarter, dropping another Paul Dudd, falling behind 10-0.

Speaker 1 But it all changed when Patrick Mahomes found Tyreek Hill and said, I love you, man.

Speaker 1 Derek Clapton Henry didn't look wonderful tonight, and there will be tears in heaven for crying Tannehill as God gained a team but lost a penis.

Speaker 1 Andy Patrick Reed mastered offensive football and has everyone a believer as he took the boys to Outback Steakhouse for a celebratory dinner and the lightning and the chocolate thunder and the thunder and the lightning and the chocolate thunder.

Speaker 1 We finished with Patrick Mahomes on the sideline. Patrick, boy, I certainly poofed after that contest today.

Speaker 1 Was real cool that our defense was able to bottle up tractor sito. The titan season is for Nito.
The Chiefs won ain't that Nito. Going to Miami for SB El Avito.
Tractor Cito. Thanks.

Speaker 1 I played baseball, boom. Thank you, Patrick.
Appreciate that. We'll see you in Miami.
Chiefs 35, Titans, 24.

Speaker 1 Fumball! Whoop! Whoop! We go to the Big Bell Bottom, where these two historic franchises fight for a ticket to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Raheem hot, spicy Chinese Mostert was on a real egg roll, rushing for 220 yards and four touchdowns, and left fans wanton more.

Speaker 1 General So What Aaron Rodgers looked disengaged ignoring the five second rule when refusing to go for a second quarter fumble. Devontae Adams-Levine had

Speaker 1 moves like Jagger, but the Packers learned the hard way. You can't always get what you want.

Speaker 1 As homeless Aaron Rodgers will be begging Danica to give him shelter after this disappointing loss, the 49ers have a chance to win their first Super Bowl since their victory over Natrone means business when Steve Young got the monkey off his back only to shove it up his own ass 25 years later for making fun of Joe Burrow for drinking alcohol.

Speaker 1 Niners 37, the Green Bay Packers 20. All right, Championship Sunday in the books wasn't super exciting with games.
The games weren't super tight. The first game had its moments.
It had its moments.

Speaker 1 At first, it's like when the Chiefs only spotted the Titans 10

Speaker 1 instead of spotting them, what, 21, 24, 24 like they did the other week. It's like, yeah, I can see how these games are going to go.
Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 1 I still love Championship Sunday. Everyone should love Championship Sunday.
It's great to watch. Getting to the Super Bowl always feels like a big deal.

Speaker 1 It's like the celebration is always a big deal, and the home crowd, and everyone behind it. So we'll start with the game in Kansas City, the AFC Championship game.
Very cold.

Speaker 1 Even before the game started, my biological clock was off for Football Sunday because it was a three o'clock start.

Speaker 1 So I, not to brag, go to the gym, work out, come back. My biological clock tells me as a football guy, be on your couch by 1 p.m.
at the very latest.

Speaker 1 So I sit on the couch, turn on the TV, and I'm like, we got two more hours.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 forever. Forever.
So the game starts, and the Chiefs... I don't know what it is, but they just can't start a game without being in a hole.
Like, that's when they wake up.

Speaker 1 It's basically Julian Edelman getting a concussion and getting, you know, starting to play well. They need to be in a big hole.
If they're down by double digits, that's their smelling sauce.

Speaker 1 And it felt like for a minute there that the Titans had

Speaker 1 everything going perfectly for them. They're up 10-0.
They can run the ball. They can play their game.
But they forgot about Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 And they forgot about what this Chiefs offense has done the last two weeks. So

Speaker 1 last week, they go down to the Titans. They're down 24-0.
After they're down 24-0, they scored touchdowns on seven out of nine drives. Today, they go down 10-0.

Speaker 1 They scored touchdowns on five of the next seven drives. It's insane what they can do.
You cannot guard all of them.

Speaker 1 The Titans' defense, which had played well against Lamar, had played well against the Patriots, looked completely overmatched.

Speaker 1 Well, even if you do guard all their offensive weapons, you know what's going to happen is Mahomes is he's going to take off and run like he did on that 33-yard skate scramble. His tackling

Speaker 1 game

Speaker 1 tackling, and he's so good at playing quarterback that he doesn't even need to do like a head and shoulders fake. He does an eye fake.

Speaker 1 He uses his eyes and he'll make a defender that's pursuing him stop to try to bat down a pass. He takes off, he rounded that corner.
There was nobody near him.

Speaker 1 And the thing is, when he runs, and by the way, he's... No, there were guys near him.
They just all missed him. He's had two injuries, like two leg injuries this year.

Speaker 1 Like the dislocated knee, we forget about that. But he's still, he's like deceptively fast as a quarterback.
So he turns the corner and he's gone.

Speaker 1 The guy that tried to tackle him at the goal line ended up throwing him into the end zone

Speaker 1 away from the other guy that was about to knock his shit off. 37 just mailed it in.

Speaker 1 I actually think that a little hot take, but the new rules with hitting quarterbacks makes it harder for defensive players to fully go at a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Like, it felt like guys were wanted to tackle them. It was bad tackling, but it also felt like if they went too hard, they would get a penalty.
Yeah. Because no one went, like, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. That was your free shot.

Speaker 1 You very rarely get a free shot on a quarterback in the open field, and they missed it. Not only did they miss it, they ended up just throwing him into the end zone.
And so,

Speaker 1 once the Chiefs' offense got cooking,

Speaker 1 the game was over basically when at the end of the first half, the Titans had the ball back with like two and a half minutes. They go three and out, and the Chiefs score again.

Speaker 1 And that was the touchdown to end the half, and they get the ball back. They didn't score on the first possession of the second half.

Speaker 1 But as soon as the Titans had to play from behind, Ryan Tannehill, great run. They've been incredible.

Speaker 1 It was an awesome, like, no one thought the Titans would be in the AFC Championship game, but that's not a team that you know, can match points with the Chiefs when the Chiefs' offense is cooking.

Speaker 1 It was funny because the Titans had what looked like a back-breaking drive. That would be a back-breaking drive against most teams.
It was a 10-minute drive. It was like a

Speaker 1 nine-minute drive. They just marched down the field systematically.
I mean, it looked like it was a lot of work to get down the field because it took so long, but it was a nine-minute drive.

Speaker 1 They score, then they give the ball to the Chiefs who proceed to score in about like 95 seconds. It was awesome.
And it's like, it almost seemed not fair from the Titans' perspective.

Speaker 1 It's like, we we worked so hard to put together this awesome drive and we give you the ball and then you immediately score.

Speaker 1 So it was 15 plays, 75 yards, nine-minute drive, and then the Chiefs turned around and scored in two and a half minutes.

Speaker 1 It was so cool to watch the two different styles though because that's how the Titans were going to have to score. They were going to have to just grind it out.

Speaker 1 And that was when they scored that 15-play, 75-yard drive, you're like, okay, the Titans... can win this game because they're up 17-7.
They're basically just grinding clock.

Speaker 1 But then Patrick Mahomes does Patrick Patrick Mahomes things, and again, they start the game out 10-0 down 10-0 and somehow get into halftime up four. It felt like

Speaker 1 it was like the tight.

Speaker 1 I mean, it wasn't as severe as the Texans' game, but it was kind of the same script where you have the Chiefs on the ropes in the first quarter, and then by halftime, the game is completely flipped, and the Chiefs feel great.

Speaker 1 You let them get tired, and Mike Vrabel did run a fake punt when everybody knew that it was going to happen later on in the game. Yep.
Earlier in the game, this was around midfield.

Speaker 1 It looked like they were going to run a fake punt. It was a classic Bill O'Brien thing.
They were lined up. It looked like they were going to fake the punt.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs brought one of the gunners in, and the punter checked out of it. And you could tell because they cut to Mike Vrabel right after that.
He was pissed off that they didn't fake that one.

Speaker 1 And at that point, I made a little mental note in the PFT mental notebook. They're like, be on the lookout because Vrabel's going to call it fake punt later.
The fake punt. But it was like later on.

Speaker 1 Everyone knew what was going to happen. And it was basically Vrabel saying,

Speaker 1 I think that my punter can throw a better pass than Ryan Taylor

Speaker 1 at this moment. Now, one thing that we're not doing enough of in this postseason is crediting Jeff Fisher for the Titans' success.
True. Because here's the best.
He laid the groundwork.

Speaker 1 He laid the groundwork because he made a trade with the Titans when he was the coach of the Rams, and he gave the Titans draft picks that ended up becoming Derrick Henry, Jack Conklin, Austin Johnson, Corey Davis, and John U.

Speaker 1 Smith, the building blocks

Speaker 1 of this team right here. So we should be giving Fisher a little bit of credit for that.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' run defense was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 And the question of, like, can the Chiefs play defense in a big-time moment was answered today because they were soft last year in that exact moment against the Patriots in the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 But they were awesome. And obviously, the game flipped a little bit where the Titans have to play catch up, but they were...
I mean, Derrick Henry was not able to get...

Speaker 1 Like, the times that Derrick Henry got yards was just really good blocking. It wasn't Derrick Henry just, like, running over guys.
So, Frank Clark, you're off the hook.

Speaker 1 That was an all-time stupid thing to say before the game, but it turned out to be correct. Like, the Chiefs run defense was phenomenal, and they deserve credit.
And guess what?

Speaker 1 They're going to have to be even better in the Super Bowl against the 49ers rushing attack, but they need the credit because that was kind of the question.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows Patrick Mahomes can do it, and the offense has all the weapons. Can the defense step up? And they did.
The honey badger is awesome. It was so much fun to watch him play.

Speaker 1 Like, just having him on the field, you have to, like, as a fan watching him, I feel like a quarterback that always needs to know where he is.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm looking for Honey Badger before the play, and I'm calling him out just to myself and Leroy on the couch. I'm like, there's a Honey Badger, there's a Honey Badger.
He doesn't care.

Speaker 1 And he had a couple of nice hits today. Anytime he wraps somebody up, it feels like he's going to make them fumble the ball.

Speaker 1 Like, he finds a way to wiggle his limbs into these weird places and just punch at the ball from impossible angles. He's so much fun to watch play.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid, can we talk about Andy Reid real quick?

Speaker 1 I hope they let him coach in shorts at the Super Bowl. Did you see the flag toss? Yes.
The most casual waddle to a flag toss I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 The Hawaiian shirts are going to be on.

Speaker 1 It was a drop.

Speaker 1 Well, it was a toss. For the people listening.
It was a toss. Well, you want to

Speaker 1 serve your energy, man.

Speaker 1 You can't be out there just gunning the flag across the field. That's your timeout hand.
Yeah, and Andy Reid,

Speaker 1 I'm happy for Andy Reid. His post-game when he picked up the trophy one-handed and was,

Speaker 1 it looked like the smallest trophy in the world next to Andy Reid. Also, I think it was the owner of the Chiefs

Speaker 1 wearing earplugs. Yeah.
Did you see that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Unless he has some kind of issue that I don't know about, that's ridiculous. He also, they cut to him during the game.
He couldn't even find a high five in his own box.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's since we know that that happens. But I,

Speaker 1 on a serious note, for Kansas City, that looked like an all-time fun environment to be at. And I love long-suffering fan base.
base. They haven't been in the Super Bowl in 50 years.

Speaker 1 They lose last year when they thought it was their year. They had the one seed and everything.
So the redemption arc of that game and winning it in front of your crowd was so fucking cool.

Speaker 1 That one shot when Patrick Mahomes had his arms up and everyone was going crazy after a touchdown. They had that long touchdown was so fucking cool and got me so amped up.

Speaker 1 So I'm happy for Kansas City. I truly am.
Like that's a fan base that you can feel happy for. I don't have a ton.
I'm extremely excited for them. And Casey Wolfe, too.
Yes.

Speaker 1 He's gone through his own shit this playoffs, the ups and downs of that mascot alone. He's been basically bipolar.
Now he's really happy.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for any fan base, one, that's long-suffering, that gets to go to Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Two, that lives in an extremely cold environment, that gets to go south to Miami for a little bit, take a sun break, hang out down there with the guys. I'm concerned a little bit about Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 He said that he's going to go on a diet this week so he can fit into

Speaker 1 his Miami clothes. So he's going on a South Beach diet, which is just don't eat anything until you get to Miami.

Speaker 1 I think the diet that Andy Reid is going to go on is

Speaker 1 he will probably skip lunch tomorrow. That'll be it.
He'll do brunch instead of brunch. You'll get like super hungry by dinner time and be like, well, diet complete.
Here's Andy Reid's diet this week.

Speaker 1 Just one type of pork on your breakfast plate. Yeah, he's going to be.
So choose between sausage and bacon.

Speaker 1 God, Andy Reid is also one of those classic, he's in that classic situation where his legacy, if he wins a Super Bowl, will will change so dramatically, which shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 Like, it shouldn't be that Andy Reid's legacy is all determined on one Super Bowl win because he's been such a good coach for so long, one, you know, with the Eagles, with the Chiefs, been basically in the playoffs every single year, changes his offense, has evolved better than any coach.

Speaker 1 But that one Super Bowl win will take him from a great coach to like one of the best. You know what I mean? Like, that's all it needs.
That's all he needs.

Speaker 1 We're going going to do all of our Super Bowl storylines on Wednesday, but this is a legacy game for Andy Reid. Yes, it's a legacy game.

Speaker 1 That's our job is to kind of open that gate and allow him up to the top of our pantheon. Yeah.
If he does win a Super Bowl. But he really deserves it.

Speaker 1 But he has, regardless of whether or not he wins a Super Bowl, he's been a great coach for what, like 25 years? Forever. But you got to have that ring, baby.
Got to have that ring. Otherwise,

Speaker 1 you're buried underneath the pantheon. Well, you just think of all the losses, not the wins.
It just changes.

Speaker 1 Our brains are so stupid that way, where you, where if he doesn't win this Super Bowl, well, he lost in the big games. He had a lot of conference championships.
He lost two Super Bowl championships.

Speaker 1 What about Ovie? That's what I'm saying. Ovie's won.
Yeah, so you think everything different about him now because Jim. Yeah, okay.
I'll give you that one.

Speaker 1 Tim got defensive there. No, I was just.
You're right. You're right.
You're right. I'll stand up for Ovie when I hear slander upon his.
It wasn't slander. He was making a good point.

Speaker 1 It was a great point.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 1 So the one nice thing about the Super Bowl loss that Andy Reid does have in terms of his legacy is that we don't think about Andy Reid choking away that Super Bowl as much because we think more about Donvin McNabb

Speaker 1 throwing up on the field during that drive that Andy Reid mismanaged. So there's that which he's got going for him.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 can I say a big fuck you to Mike Bloomberg

Speaker 1 running all these ads during my football Sunday? Okay. Like, I have no idea what his platform is, but I do know that now

Speaker 1 I only think about Mike Bloomberg as being the guy that's not football because his ads are all over my screen during NFL Sunday, and I don't like it, Mike. Yeah, it sounds like you're triggered.

Speaker 1 I'm very triggered. I'm exceptionally triggered about Mike Bloomberg.
Yes, I don't really pay attention to the ads anymore. So he's got $200 million.

Speaker 1 I read this, that he's spent on ads, and he's pulling at like 4%. You got so mad you were mad about that.
I would be more likely to vote for him if he just lit $200 million on fire. In one ad? Yes.

Speaker 1 Hi, I'm Mike Bloomberg, and look what I can do. That would be cool.
That would be a lot cooler than interrupting my football Sunday, Mike Bloomberg.

Speaker 1 You are triggered. Jesus.
Well, yeah, you know what? I'm scratching his name

Speaker 1 out of my personal records for candidates that I'm even considering voting for. I've only seen that Tom Speyer guy.
Yeah, he's always on there. Same guy.
Same guy. Yeah, yeah.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 He's just walking around in

Speaker 1 a Patagonia vest. He's trying to talk to me, walking down a nice country road.
If you're buying ads, political ads during a football game, you've already lost. That's number one.

Speaker 1 Number two, you should just have Dennis Leary narrate your commercial like it's a truck commercial. Yeah, or the rock.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and just call you pussy if you don't, like you're a pussy if you don't vote for me.

Speaker 1 Have it actually just be like, hey, I'm running for president, but more importantly, here are two trucks trying to tow each other. Yeah.
And then vote for me. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It could actually be the Republican truck and the Democrat truck. Yeah.
And you just fucking have them and then be like, tune in. Don't have it finish.

Speaker 1 Keep the people wanting more. Go visit MikeBloomberg.com to find out who wins the truck.
That's the new thing, by the way.

Speaker 1 I went down a TikTok rabbit hole the other day trying to figure out what it was, and I got actually very upset at this one kid who put 18 liters of Coke into a big tub and had 300 mentos and was sitting in the tub.

Speaker 1 And he slow-mo was about to drop the mentos and then said, go to my Instagram page to watch the end of the video.

Speaker 1 And then went to his Instagram page and he's like, I'm not releasing it till I get this many followers. And I got fucking mad.
Go to my Twitter account

Speaker 1 to watch the end of it. So that's what they got to do for the truck, the truck off.
Just be like,

Speaker 1 go to the voting poll

Speaker 1 to vote for me, and then I will release. If I get enough votes to be president, I will release the truck video.
I like it. Fuck.

Speaker 1 It'd be a lot better than having to deal with that bullshit during the football games.

Speaker 1 Dude, this fucking douchebag kid from California had me just running around the internet looking for this Mentos video, and I want to kill him. Not actually.
I don't want to be like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He might be TikTok like anything. You certainly are getting mad about not being able to see a teenage boy bathe.
Yeah, well, I want to see the Mentos just fuck him up.

Speaker 1 Dude, the Mentos would have fucked him up.

Speaker 1 And he also was doing it in like a hotel lobby, which is really too spatial. I'm going to do this.
You seem like a

Speaker 1 body movie. You guys have some body weekends.
Yeah, crazy weekends. Crazy weekends.
Political ads and TikTok. Okay.

Speaker 1 Last thing. Speaking of TikTok, we need to get Patrick Mahomes' brother to teach us how to use TikTok.
He's really big on that platform.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to use it. I logged in.
I started an account. I think we have a part of my take account that we haven't haven't put anything on as far as I know.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy that I've reached an age where, like, I've said this before, but if TikTok was big like six or seven years ago, I would have already gotten hit by a car on TikTok to try to get my clout up.

Speaker 1 I'm past that. Yeah, you would have been banned by MLB.
It would have sucked. Yeah, I would have been putting my Yabo videos on TikTok and then having them take everything down.

Speaker 1 All right. Last thing on the Chiefs.
Well, it'll be a segue to the next game. Should we talk quickly about the jerseys, Pantones? They're They're very close.
Everyone's talking about it. Everyone.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' red is Pantone 186C.

Speaker 1 The Niners' red is Pantone 187C. Pat tip Jake Marsh at PMT Sports.

Speaker 1 These are one digit off.

Speaker 1 The closest Pantones that have ever had a Super Bowl matchup against each other. And the Chiefs are the home team, so they will most likely wear red.
I would wear red.

Speaker 1 I read a study 15 years ago. It's probably outdated and debunked, but it's the last thing that sticks in my mind.

Speaker 1 That teams that wear the color red are dominant if you look across all sports professionally. There's like a small bit of, I don't know what sort of

Speaker 1 Darwinian or evolutionary trait being bright red gives you as a show of dominant. Bright red? Yeah, like a red, a robust red.

Speaker 1 Doesn't that cancel each other out, though, because they're both going to wear red? Only one team can wear red.

Speaker 1 Solid red. Yeah.
Solid red. The other team's got to go.
Moon? Alabama's maroon. That's a red.

Speaker 1 That's not like a crimson. They're crimson.
They're actually crimsons. Yeah, crimsons are red, though.
Yeah, but like not, I don't think red. I don't think crimson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's still, I think it's just any reds. So when did you read this study? About 60 years ago.

Speaker 1 You read it during the big red machines run. I read it.

Speaker 1 15 years ago.

Speaker 1 I don't know what teams were 60. Actually, you know what? I remember I read it and I was.
And the Bulls.

Speaker 1 I thought to myself, like, there are no good teams that wear red right now. This story's bullshit.
But then over time, the pendulum, pendulum, it's just all, you know, it's give and take.

Speaker 1 We'll have Jake Marsh break that down for us. He's got to go.
Jake, you're listening to this right now.

Speaker 1 I want a full breakdown of all the colors that have won all the major championships in pro sports and then football and basketball in college. So give it to us.
Give us all that. Right.
However,

Speaker 1 teams that wear red in the East, they don't win in the playoffs. I know that.
Yeah. For the NBA.
That's just my general rule of thumb. I was betting.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Even though the whole 90s is. Yeah, even I disregard.
Throw that out. Disregard.
Throw it out. Yeah, it was an anomaly.
Erroneous. Okay, so the next game.

Speaker 1 By the way, you can watch us, barstillgold.com/slash PMT. We have Trevor Bauer in studio.
BarstowGold.com slash PMT. 49ers Packers.

Speaker 1 Anyone want to

Speaker 1 anyone want to talk about the Packers being frauds? Well, guess what's back? Is running football. Fraud.

Speaker 1 Running footballs. Frauds.
Mostert had, what, 200? No, no, no, no, no. We'll talk about the Niners in a second.
Let's talk about the Packers first. Okay, let's talk about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I'm worried about Aaron Rodgers. I'm officially worried about his mental health.
He looked disinterested, disengaged,

Speaker 1 iron decision. Made a bad fumble.
He did not jump on the ball.

Speaker 1 He made Cam Newton look like he was hungry. And that Super, what is that, Super Bowl 50? Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to beat up on Packers fans right now because I know

Speaker 1 the Bears didn't even make the playoffs. That's fine.
I would personally prefer to not make the playoffs than get my dick kicked in in the NFC championship game. That's just my personal preference.

Speaker 1 But we can agree to disagree. The Packers roster, here's a nice spin zone for you Packer fans.
Packers roster is an average quarterback away from being a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 1 I was saying if they can just find a quarterback, they would be good. I think if they had benched Aaron Rodgers at halftime, that was the way to go.

Speaker 1 Get a spark in there with Timmy D, Timmy Doyle in the second half. Aaron looked, he looked pretty bad all around.
He had a couple nice passes in the second half, but the first half,

Speaker 1 he looked like somebody that has been fucking Brett Farr for a while. Just like completely blank look on his face, was just not impressed, not happy to even be there.

Speaker 1 49ers' defense was awesome, and their pass rush is awesome. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was Aaron Rodgers did not look good, and he's getting older, and that business decision was a little wild. I mean, he didn't even

Speaker 1 attempt to try to get that ball. He didn't even.

Speaker 1 That was a big fumble. They were going in for a score.
He didn't stop where he was. He just kept backbattling.
Yeah. He was just like, no,

Speaker 1 I'm out of here. Don't want anything with this.
So

Speaker 1 Raheem Mostert was awesome. I'll just throw this out there.
All points scored by the 49ers were by ex-Bears. So the Bears kind of won this.
Okay. Mostert, Bears Legend.

Speaker 1 He was on the Bears for a couple games. Bear for life.
Robbie Gold, Bear for Life. So just going to throw that out there.
But yeah, Raheem Mostert was incredible. 220 yards, four touchdowns.

Speaker 1 And Jimmy G with the finesse god stat line of six for eight for 77 yards. I love it.
Incredible. But guess what?

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter because they knew that they could run on the Packers, and that's what they did. He had, what, 30 excellent handoffs though? 30 excellent handoffs, and Mostert had 220 yards.

Speaker 1 It felt like it was 500 yards. They just were ripping off yards whenever they wanted.
And it wasn't like there were a bunch of really long runs that Mostert ripped off.

Speaker 1 It was mostly just like 11 yards, 11 yards, 11 yards, systematically down the field, and there was nothing they could do to stop it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to defer my football analysis to a recurring guest of part of my take, Kato Kalen. He's a huge Packers fan.
Oh, yeah. He had a meltdown.
He says, Packers have worst O-line. They have no D.

Speaker 1 As an owner, I want complete new coaching staff. Get Mike Shanahan.
LaFleur is the wrong choice. His goatee and whiskers are not for a Wisconsin sports team.
It's too perfect.

Speaker 1 Mike Shanahan, get back to coaching. So he's doing like a little reverse nepotism deal where he's saying like all these good young coaches, instead of like hiring their kids, go hire their dads

Speaker 1 to come back. Does Andy Reid have a father?

Speaker 1 If Mr. Reed is still

Speaker 1 with us, bring him back to coach. Mike Brable's dad could probably coach.
I wanted Mike Shanahan for the Bears job before they hired John Fox. I did.
Essentially, I very much did.

Speaker 1 I very much was on the hire Mike Shanahan. I need a Pantone check on Mike Shanahan's neck.

Speaker 1 That might be one away from the 49ers. That was an awkward Mike Shanahan going for the high five.
Then, like, they hugged Kyle and Mike when he was presenting the trophies.

Speaker 1 Like, you guys are a family, right? Yeah. Didn't really realize that.
But Kyle Shanahan, he is the new Sean McVay, hottest coach in the league.

Speaker 1 His logo keeps getting smaller.

Speaker 1 It reminded me this time. Awkward's hat.
It reminded me this time of the DVD save screen logo that bounces around on his screen. He should have a gift hat where it bounces around on his forehead.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 an unbelievable game, though, by the 49ers. And they're somehow.

Speaker 1 I guess I get it because the Chiefs have been so dominant offensively. The opening line for the Super Bowl is Chiefs minus one.
Over-under is 53.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the over no matter what for everything. Yeah.
I don't care. I really don't care.
I'm ruining for the points in this one. Have to.

Speaker 1 So the 49ers,

Speaker 1 like going from last year where, well, they win two games. Obviously, Jimmy G got hurt to this where they were the dominant team in the NFC all year.
Like this was,

Speaker 1 I beat up on the Packers and called them frauds, but

Speaker 1 you play the team in front of you. They won 13 games.

Speaker 1 They didn't beat really anyone, but that's kind of the rest of the NFC because the NFC, besides the 49ers, just didn't really have any strong dominant teams.

Speaker 1 And the 49ers were basically wire-to-wire winners in terms of the NFC. They were dominant all year, and they finished the job, and they kicked the shit out of the Packers twice.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, Packer fans, I'm sorry, but you'll be watching the Super Bowl with me. Can Can you couch? Can you just imagine? Which is actually the best place to watch.
It's actually great. It's great.

Speaker 1 It's great to see you guys. Couches are amazing.
Anything, yeah. Best convention.

Speaker 1 Nice and low.

Speaker 1 Can we just imagine for a second how good the 49ers' running game would be if they had a tight end that Doug Gottlieb thought could block?

Speaker 1 Like, how much more, how many more yards could they have put up today? I like how everyone's like, where, I saw a few people be like, where's Greg Kittle today?

Speaker 1 And I was like, well, he's blocking his fucking ass off. You know what? Dominating every stick on the field because he blocked it off.

Speaker 1 He blocked for everyone, and that's their running attack is insane. I mean,

Speaker 1 they just won an NFC championship game by 17 points, and they threw the ball eight times.

Speaker 1 That's got to make a lot of the analytics nerds really upset. Well, that's where the pendulum has swung back where you just need to run the ball.
Well,

Speaker 1 the analytics nerds got a victory in the first game. Yeah, because Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 They were so mad, by the way. Did you see how mad people were about that stat that every time Derrick Henry runs for 100 yards, the Titans win? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, of course, we know that there's some, like,

Speaker 1 that those two don't correlate. Someone said it, they're dumb, and then they just use that to basically the analytics versus the football guy thing.

Speaker 1 They just go at each other all the time, and they both are just yelling to no one.

Speaker 1 What we've truly learned from this sample size, I think it's big enough that in the AFC, running the football doesn't work.

Speaker 1 In the NFC, you need to be able to run the football, and it doesn't matter if you're able to pass. Right, correct.
But it's it's in NFC championship games. Here's a stat.

Speaker 1 Running backs that run for over 200 yards with four touchdowns, their team wins 100% of the time. So if you can figure out a way to do that in the NFC, you're golden.

Speaker 1 You're going to walk to the Super Bowl. It's almost like you should just play to your team's strengths.
Maybe. That's really what it is.
To the opponent's weaknesses. Right.

Speaker 1 It's the opponent's weaknesses.

Speaker 1 The run-pass split doesn't really matter if you're able to run the ball really well. And if you're able to, the Titans not be able to pass, it sucks.

Speaker 1 Can I give a shout-out to to Salah, the defensive coordinator for the 49ers? Yes. I don't know if anybody picked up on this.
He puked on the sidelines today. Perfect.

Speaker 1 Because I'm pretty sure he probably had a dip in or something. But the camera cut to him, and he was like coughing for a second.
And then he just blows chucks. He's just mad that he didn't get a job.

Speaker 1 He just blows chucks. He's got a good job.

Speaker 1 This guy is such a football guy. His holdback guy had a holdback guy.
Need it. It was a chain of holdback.
Elephant walk is what we call it. Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was awesome to watch that defense come out and play.

Speaker 1 And Rob Lowe. Rob Lowe took the internet by storm.
With the shield hat. Shield hat looked awesome.
Rob Lowe's just... So, Hank, you got to the bottom of it, right? You got actual

Speaker 1 a word from Rob Lowe's camp, which Rob Lowe's camp just being his son. Yes, Rob Lowe's camp said that he was given the hat by the Fox executives right before the game.
Huge breaking news.

Speaker 1 No one else has that.

Speaker 1 That was Matt Lowe. For those of you that don't know, it was just the NFL shield on his hat.
He looked like an umpire. Rooting for both teams.
Yeah, rooting for both teams.

Speaker 1 Just rooting for Roger Goodell to make money. Just have fun out here, guys.
We have Rob Lowe on one side of the Dilf Bowl, and then we have Paul Rudd on the other. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 it's going to be a big hit for people that grew up in the 90s watching movies. It's going to be great.
So it's official. We got the Super Bowl.
I'm excited. This is going to be a great Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You can't really complain. I was happy.

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 going to be happy for the Titans because Mike Rabel's a friend of the program and everything. But any Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes is going to be exciting because of the type of player he is.

Speaker 1 And he's so young.

Speaker 1 And it feels like, oh, by the way, there was another thing I saw that was not, I wasn't irritated, but it was just one of those things where I have to maybe clean up who I follow on Twitter.

Speaker 1 NBA Twitter was trying to figure out who Patrick Mahomes is. Like, is he LeBron? And Brady's Jordan? Steph Curry.
And then Peyton is Kobe. And they were doing the whole fucking thing.

Speaker 1 I was like, come on, guys. I can't do this right now.
He's Steph Curry. He's doing this in like three months.
His dad was an athlete. His brother is taller than him.
It was so stupid.

Speaker 1 It was so stupid. But yeah, so this is going to be an exciting Super Bowl.
I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it.
We got two weeks to kill time.

Speaker 1 We'll do the storylines on Wednesday. That's part of the time killing.
Andy Reid's going to be on a diet. We got to be on a diet.
South Play in solidarity? Well, yeah, just to look good at South Pole.

Speaker 1 I mean, I am on a diet. Yeah, we have to clean it up.
I ate two salads in the last week and a half. Yeah.
Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 Can you imagine the state of mind I have to be in to

Speaker 1 enter the the salad realm? Also, I'm two for two in Chiefs playoff games where I just jinx them by them going down and say, thanks for coming out, Chiefs. And then Patrick Mahomes liking that tweet

Speaker 1 after he wins. I'm excited to have Travis Kelsey and

Speaker 1 Greg Kittle going head to head so we can find out which tight end is more better than Rob Grunkowski. Hank?

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know why you've got to bring former players into this, but it'll be exciting to see who the best current tight end is.

Speaker 1 You got to embrace debate when it comes to

Speaker 1 whoever wins is going to get that first Super Bowl. That'll be good for them.
I hope it's Kittle. I'm talking.
Yeah. Oh, you're rooting for the 49ers? Officially.

Speaker 1 As a journalist, you're actually going to root for a team and not for a storyline? Not officially.

Speaker 1 I'm still up in the air. Hank is unofficially rooting for the Super Bowl.
I'm definitely rooting for Kittle.

Speaker 1 Okay. You're rooting for Kittle to have a great game, but don't know who you want to win.
Correct. But wouldn't you say that if Jimmy G wins a Super Bowl, that is almost another ring for Belichick?

Speaker 1 Fact. Yeah, but it's going to be one of those things where just, it's already started with the Boston media being like, did the Patriots actually win?

Speaker 1 Was it the right move to trade Jimmy Garoppolo two years ago? So if he goes out and has an unbelievable game, it's going to be like consider that. Yeah, it's going to be like eight.
Eight.

Speaker 1 I hope Jimmy. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'll save my thoughts for Professor. Yeah, we have enough time to get ready for all that.

Speaker 1 Okay, before we do our who's back, we're going to do a who's back in a couple quick segments before we get to our interview with Trevor Bauer, which was fantastic, by the way.

Speaker 1 He's a very interesting guy, and he also has a lot to say about the fact that he called the Astros cheating way before the Astros were found to cheat.

Speaker 1 You can like or dislike Trevor Bauer, and I like sometimes I agree with what he says, sometimes I don't.

Speaker 1 But at the very least, you have to admit that he speaks what he believes to be the truth about everything. Very literal guy.
Solid laws in this interview. Sorry, solid laws.

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Speaker 1 Who's back? Hank.

Speaker 1 Who's back? I got a bunch of who's back. Okay, hit me.
Don't steal Connor because I was going to do Connor. Okay.
Brangelina. Oh, really? They were at an award show tonight.

Speaker 1 They had a little moment backstage. They were holding hands.
Everyone's getting excited. What is Brad Pitt's wife think about that? I don't think, I think they're divorced.
Oh. Wait.

Speaker 1 Brad Pitt and Henry divorce? No, Bennefer. Bennefer.
Jeez, that's my bad. Wow.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That was a roller coaster. Wait, Bennefer is

Speaker 1 what was Brad Pitt and Jennifer

Speaker 1 and Branniston. Via Branniston.
Braniston's back. King of the North.
That was like the shittiest Game of Thrones character. Yeah.
Yeah, I just got my mother.

Speaker 1 I got my celebrity couple names mixed up in there. So Braniston.
Brangelina's, they're done. Okay, but Branniston.
Wait, Brangelina, they're done? Yeah, yeah. Brad Pitt and Angelina are broken up?

Speaker 1 Yeah. When? Does he still have to look after all those kids? Really?

Speaker 1 Yes. I guess that's 90% sure.
Yeah, being a dad goes.

Speaker 1 Fuck. What the fuck? You still have to deal with those kids? Yeah, yeah, probably.
Legally. Legally, he is.
Yeah, and that's okay.

Speaker 1 I did see that. I didn't wear

Speaker 1 news to me, but he was rocking the Kansas City Chiefs hat tonight. Who? Pitt.
Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt.
So they've got Rob Lowe. Yeah, not Rob Lowe.
They've got Hamilton. Rob Row.
When, Brad Pitt?

Speaker 1 This October? Yeah. Oh, I'm not that bad.
October's not. Yeah, it's not forgotten.
That's not forgivable. Yeah.
That's football season. Oh, that's when it was finalized.
It was announced a while ago.

Speaker 1 My other who's back was just Curb. Curb your enthusiasm.
Is it Backpack? Backpack. Backpackpack.
Backpack. Yeah.
It came out today? It's out right now. All of them? No.

Speaker 1 Just one episode. See, I can't pick it up.

Speaker 1 You can't do that anymore. What?

Speaker 1 I prefer TV shows that go week by week.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 they give you control, self-control, so you don't watch them all at once. I'm always looking forward to it.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 I like my TV shows where I can sit down and watch them all in one night and then just never remember what exactly happened.

Speaker 1 Now, is this going to be an episode or a season like they had in the past where there's a storyline that kind of runs through all of it? Or is it just going to be a little bit more like a musician?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Larry does something awkward. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. Larry finds himself in an awkward situation.
Larry

Speaker 1 Larry does something to us that seems reasonable, but to the people that he's acting with, it's unreasonable.

Speaker 1 Larry says something to a woman in line, and then he finds out the woman is actually his neighbor.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 I do love the show. I don't know why I'm mocking it.
I mean, it's a very funny show. Yes, it's a very funny show.
But we did kind of nail at least one of the episodes.

Speaker 1 All right. that's it? My other one was Connor.
Yeah. All right, okay.
So we'll save that one for big tech. Yeah, yeah.
My who's back of the week is technology.

Speaker 1 Technology.

Speaker 1 I'm a big tech guy. Okay.
Did you hear about this article in the New York Times? It came out a couple days ago about Clearview Technology.

Speaker 1 I'm out of free.

Speaker 1 Who cares? You're out of free articles? I actually subscribed to read this article because I was so famous.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Thank you.
Wait,

Speaker 1 if you're listening to me, big technology out there, no. No, gimme.
You may not. But this is your password right now.

Speaker 1 You were so triggered about bloomberg you you made the account and then it found articles since yeah no no this is before i got triggered by bloomberg popping up on my tv and ruining football but it was good that you you can i tell you can i get to the new york times article subscription once you got triggered because you can find out more about it if i wanted to right yeah so all right so there's this app called clearview artificial intelligence and what it does is it can take a picture of your face from any surveillance video and it can run it through their database of pictures anywhere online that will pop up with your pictures and links to all your pictures.

Speaker 1 It can search like billions and billions of photos. It's like 10 times bigger database than the FBI is, and it hooks up to Google Glass technology.

Speaker 1 So you could be riding on a subway and you could be looking at somebody, just looking at their face, scan their face, and find out everything about them. So basically,

Speaker 1 it's Terminator technology.

Speaker 1 Right now, they're only selling to law enforcement agencies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is bad. Yeah, it's bad.
It's really bad. But as somebody who welcomes the robots, I'm on your side, Clearview.
Trevor Burrus. For the record.
You'll find out. I'm on your side.

Speaker 1 So there was that, and then that... So I was looking all this stuff up, and then something popped up into one of my cookies when I was on a website.
That was

Speaker 1 an ad for

Speaker 1 a product. No, not Tiana Trump.
Is that for a product that I had heard listening to my Bluetooth speaker like 30 minutes earlier? So I wanted to do an experiment. I want to do an experiment.

Speaker 1 I don't know what Funko Pops are. Okay.
Funko Pops. I've heard people discuss them.
I assume they're some sort of dessert toy. Funko pops.
Funko pops. So Funko Pops.

Speaker 1 We're going to repeat the word Funko Pops. And this is for you guys to help out with too.
Don't Google it. Don't Google it.
Do not Google Funko Pops.

Speaker 1 But if Funko Pops pop up in your cookies for the advertisements, for native advertisements on a website, you let us know. Because it was us.

Speaker 1 Because it was us, and we're very woke to the fact that big tech is listening to all your shit and then adding in ads that pop up on your shit. Funko Pops.
They're double shitting you. Funko Pops.

Speaker 1 Funko Pops. Hank say it one time.
Funko Pops. Funko Pops.
Funko Pops. Okay, my who's back is Conor McGregor.
He's back. He's so fucking back.
40 seconds. Cowboy Saran.
40 seconds. Peace.
He's back.

Speaker 1 The shoulder strikes. He's invented, yeah.
I love the shoulder strikes.

Speaker 1 I bought the pay-per-view, which I got shamed for.

Speaker 1 I think this is a cultural thing. I think we're a little bit older and we remember the days of Tyson and like, ooh, you're getting the big pay-per-view.
This is awesome. Everyone gets together.

Speaker 1 You watch a big pay-per-view. Even Mayweather De La Jolla.

Speaker 1 For some reason, this is now like if I got so many people being like, way to go, way to buy a pay-per-view for 40 seconds. Shut up.
I enjoyed it. It was entertainment.
I got to see a new move.

Speaker 1 Conor McGregor's back. I got to see the undercard.
Just shut up. But Conor McGregor's back.
Now, the question is, does he have a date with the Shadow Realm? I think he probably does.

Speaker 1 They got to do Masvedal, right? I don't know exactly. I think Habib is...
Khabib is going in April, and then I think maybe Masvedal's got to fight Habib. But maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Either way, Connor McGregor's back. It's great.
He is still. He is the number one draw in terms of pay-per-views.
I don't want to see another McGregor-Habib fight, though.

Speaker 1 No, because we know how that's going to go. It's going to be like five rounds of wrestling, and Habib's just going to dominate him.
He's going to choke him out.

Speaker 1 I want to see what happens when you put Masvedal in the octagon with McGregor. Masvedal probably baptizes him.
Shadow Realm. Would be my guess.
Shadow Realm.

Speaker 1 Shadow Realm, but then he comes back better. Yeah, or Diaz McGregor again.
That would be cool. That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 Either way, it's good for UFC that McGregor is back. And I think that the people that are shaming you are probably younger.

Speaker 1 I think they're younger people that are like, we know how to get this fight for free using all our hacking technology that you don't know because you're an old.

Speaker 1 I want to watch the fight where I can actually watch it on my TV.

Speaker 1 I don't want to watch a periscope of it and then see someone's like candles and their weird pictures of their family in their living room. That's always the best.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Like somebody walks in the room and turns the light on. They're like, hey, turn the light off.
I'm periscoping. It's not shaming me.
For my friend.

Speaker 1 I like the feel of hitting purchase on a big pay-per-view fight. It's something about it.
You're just like, let's go. When you get it, you can shame it for the night.

Speaker 1 When you get into the fight and everything's clean and it runs smoothly, you feel like a boss. Also, I'm not like that.
If it's a $21 fight or a $50 fight, you feel good. Right.

Speaker 1 You're contributing to the economy. I don't go out.
I don't drink. I don't do anything.
I buy fights when I want to. So suck it.

Speaker 1 We also need to do a quick PR 101 off this fight for our guy, Baker Mayfield. Tough look.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he was sitting next to Miles Garrett, wearing a hat, quite a hat, and our guy, John Anick, said, here's Miles Garrett. Number one pick.
Former number one pick.

Speaker 1 Well, the former number one pick was King.

Speaker 1 There's a number one pick right here in these stands. Yeah.
Amazing. So this is, and then Colin Coward.
And they cut, then it went to the next slide. It was NFL quarterback, Tom Brady.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like they had that built into the package.

Speaker 1 I'm honestly not even shoehorning the Patriots into that. No, I know.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. It showed Baker Mayfield that the next slide was a quarterback.
Hank, are you a little nervous that Tom Brady got, as they say in the biz, a great pop in the arena?

Speaker 4 No, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 That's what he deserves the best pop. He got a big pop in Las Vegas.
In Las Vegas. And then he was talking to Mark Davis.
Is there a team that's going to Las Vegas? A pop.

Speaker 1 It seems like Las Vegas is a Tom Brady town. You see Phil Rivers move? He's moving to Florida.
Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he moved out of San Diego because he never moved out of San Diego. Imagine that flight.
Imagine that flight with his whole family. I hope he has a private plan.

Speaker 1 He probably doesn't just because he wants to just fucking

Speaker 1 put all his kids on a leash through the airport. He's like one of those dogs.
He's basically got a lot of people. They're all wearing the lime green shirts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got a sled team of children that that he's holding onto the reins in front of him.

Speaker 1 He probably did the Vince Young thing and just bought an entire Southwest flight just for him and his huge family. Yes.
And Brown's Twitter thinks Baker Meatfield's fat, Brown's fans. What?

Speaker 1 He's not fat. That's a thing going around.
He's just thick. He's always been thick.
It's been tough times. Embrace debate as a Baker podcast.
But we'll get through it.

Speaker 1 PR 101, he should have worn a bigger hat. Yeah.
The hat wasn't big enough. It needed to be like a Pharrell, the Arby's hat that he wore that one time.

Speaker 1 As a other, you know, big boy, big cat, what would would you, for like dealing with fat tip hats?

Speaker 1 Hats are bad. So if you're a bigger guy, you need to have your hair have as much volume as possible to hide the fact that you have a fat face.

Speaker 1 When you put on a hat, it always makes your face look fatter.

Speaker 1 It's a rule. You put on a hat.
Unless it's a big hat. No, it's still,

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 it doesn't show your hair. So your head just, all the focus goes to your fat fucking cheeks.
So you need to have hair, just crazy hair, to take away hair and beard

Speaker 1 are a fat guy's best friend.

Speaker 1 100%. If he had worn a bigger hat or just his own jersey.
Yeah, that would work too.

Speaker 1 Maybe John Annick would have mentioned him if he was wearing a jersey. That's why he's like,

Speaker 1 because you need to get recognized if you go in full kit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 1 Colin Callard can't talk shit about you in the offseason. It's like you're always ready to play.
It's also kind of awkward that Baker Mayfield still has all these commercials running.

Speaker 1 You want to talk about commercials. There should be some sort of clause written to your contract where

Speaker 1 you can back out of these commercials. The season doesn't go so well.
Maybe let's not run the, hey, I'm sleeping. I'm living in the Browns stadium in the middle of the AFC championship game.

Speaker 1 I don't know. The Aaron Rodgers ones are still going, too.
Yeah. With Patrick Days.

Speaker 1 I don't understand those commercials, by the way. It's like Aaron's mad at his agent because he's...

Speaker 1 I kind of like him. Yeah.
He's looking out for number one. Yeah, he is looking out for number one.
That's what you need out of an agent.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to Trevor Bauer. PFD, you got a quick ad before we do Trevor Bauer.
Well, then we'll do Trevor Bauer, then we'll take you out.

Speaker 1 We have Von Miller on Wednesday, and we will do all of our storylines on Wednesday as well.

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Speaker 1 Now, Trevor Bauer.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on Trevor Bauer. He's a pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds, which is that weird now, having you be, you know, announcing as you're a pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sounds a little different. I got so used to hearing Cleveland Indians for six or seven years that I trip up every time.

Speaker 1 Right, and I feel like you didn't play enough for the Reds yet for it to be like, that will be one of those opening days. Oh, yeah, he's on the Reds now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're joining us. You're here in studio.
It's actually perfect timing because

Speaker 1 you are basically the guy who has been vindicated the most in the Houston Astros situation. How have the last like 48 hours been for you watching all this stuff come out?

Speaker 4 Well, as a fan of just the internet in general,

Speaker 4 seeing all the funny videos and memes and stuff has been really funny for me.

Speaker 4 Just for the sport of it all, you know, just enjoying laughing about it.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it's been interesting seeing all the things that come out and

Speaker 4 things that

Speaker 4 we've heard about as players for a while.

Speaker 4 I don't know. It's been an interesting couple days for baseball.
I got mixed feelings on it both ways.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You were, I guess, the first person to really point out the spin rage stuff going on with their pitchers.

Speaker 1 It hasn't been focused so much on that, more on like that, we saw the bandages and the vibrations on Jose Altuve's back or whatever the allegations are.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, all the other stuff with like banging the trash cans. So you had heard about the vibrating bandage stuff that came out yesterday.
I've heard that rumor.

Speaker 4 And I have no first-hand knowledge of it, I'll say that, but I've heard that rumor from three independent people that don't know each other. Interesting.
Around baseball.

Speaker 4 And generally speaking, when you hear it from multiple sources that aren't, you know, it's not like they're in the same facility or the same team or something like that. You know, there's...

Speaker 1 Mike Trout, Nolan Arenado.

Speaker 4 No sources.

Speaker 1 No sources. Wait, so here's what I don't understand.
How is how are you, how have you heard about this for so long?

Speaker 4 and kind of knew about it for so long and it seems like a lot of people knew about it for so long and it was an open secret and no one did anything about it well first off i mean players are yeah you're part of an organization but in the offseason, you train with people from all sorts of different organizations, minor leaguers, big leaguers, people in the front offices talk.

Speaker 4 And it's like baseball has a lot of things that get around that the public doesn't necessarily know about, but everyone kind of inside the game knows about.

Speaker 4 So like just rumors like this spread and people hear things.

Speaker 4 But I mean, you've seen the backlash from it on the MLB side. They don't want,

Speaker 4 and rightfully so,

Speaker 4 it's a black eye for baseball, but they don't want that coming out if they can handle it internally, if they can handle it kind of quietly.

Speaker 4 And so until something gets, until the lid gets blown off it publicly,

Speaker 4 nothing comes out publicly. Stuff gets done, but nothing comes out.

Speaker 1 When you would pitch in Houston, would you know that something was up? Would you try to change whatever you did? Because you're like, they're on to me somehow.

Speaker 4 Man, no, when I pitch, I get so locked in on just the hitter that's up there.

Speaker 4 I try to make it as much of a one-on-one, like, personal competition as possible that I just don't, like, you could be yelling whatever at me from the stands. I just don't hear anything.
Right.

Speaker 4 So, I didn't notice it, but it needs to be said that the Astros are very, very good at a lot of different things that they do legally.

Speaker 4 Like, their scouting reports and the information that they have, like, going into a game and their approach to the plate is extremely advanced. So, I know that going in.

Speaker 4 I know that their hitters know my tendencies very, very well. They hit that way.

Speaker 4 So, I prepare for that game a little bit differently, knowing

Speaker 4 how they go about doing things. So it didn't really bother me.

Speaker 4 I didn't think about it competition-wise.

Speaker 4 For me, it's just the effect that it has on other players around the league that

Speaker 4 may not have even played against the Astros directly.

Speaker 4 And for example,

Speaker 4 So if they're stealing signs and their hitters know what's coming, let's say you have a position like just pick a random position a right field position okay

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 one right fielder for the astros knows what's coming all year and puts up some offensive stats but a right fielder in the national league that doesn't even play the astros doesn't know what's coming might not put up the same stats they both go to the free agency market the guy from houston that put up better stats is going to get more money or get the job if there's limited jobs and the guy that played in the national league isn't.

Speaker 1 Right, there's definitely a domino effect that occurs when anything like that goes down.

Speaker 1 Now, so for us, we were talking when the scandal first came out, we were like, where is the line crossed between gamesmanship and cheating?

Speaker 1 And for us, it was like, once you get a battery involved, once you have something that you need to plug into a wall, you know, whether it's a video monitor or whether it's, you know, some sort of, I don't know, like a transmitting device that has a battery in it, that's when it becomes, you know, a little bit over the line.

Speaker 1 For you as a pitcher, where would that line be for you?

Speaker 4 I think that's probably a fair assessment. But look, I mean, people have been doing this for a long time.
You'll look at replay video, right?

Speaker 4 Like the game, or after the game or whatever, and you'll say, okay, like, is the pitcher tipping pitches?

Speaker 4 That seems to be fair enough, right?

Speaker 4 So then if you creep that forward and you do that in-game, because we have the live feed we're watching in the clubhouse, like, is that now cheating because you're watching the game on TV?

Speaker 4 Well, it's hard to say that's cheating, right? Because everybody's watching the game on TV. Okay, so let's creep that forward.
Like, it's a very, very fine line there.

Speaker 4 A lot of people have been looking at video in-game to look at tells like that for a long time. Everyone's fine with it.

Speaker 4 I don't have a problem with stealing signs in that way if you're looking at signs.

Speaker 4 Now, the MLB, actually, and this is one of the things that didn't really get talked about, they came out a couple years, I think two years ago, maybe it was just this year, but they put the games on a 15-second delay so that you can't do it in real time for pitch to pitch.

Speaker 4 So, and that one didn't get talked about a whole lot, but that is one of the ways that they tried to

Speaker 4 fix or remedy the problem, right?

Speaker 4 But I I think, yeah, if you if you have a transmitter or something like that, that's probably a good line. Also, just the rate at which you can do it.

Speaker 4 Like if you have a guy in second base and he picks the catcher's signs, that's perfectly legal. Right.

Speaker 4 But if you have someone that's sitting there and like able to analyze in real time, like, I don't know, maybe you have a computer algorithm or you have some sort of code cracking system or whatnot.

Speaker 1 Once a nerd gets involved. Right.
That is cheating. I agree.

Speaker 4 Hey, man, I'm a nerd. I'm a nerd, so yeah.

Speaker 1 But it is interesting because baseball, unlike any other sport, it feels like baseball has always always had a culture of cheating.

Speaker 1 Whether you just go back in the past baseball, there's this gray area where everyone's kind of trying to do it and it's the unwritten rules and all this stuff. So I'm not surprised by it.

Speaker 1 And it almost feels inevitable that every 20 years baseball will have something like this. I guess the transmitter, like the Band-Aid transmitter, that's crazy.
Like that would be...

Speaker 1 And do you believe that's true?

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 4 It's hard for me to say one way or the other definitively. All I know is I've heard from three different people, independent sources, that it's true.

Speaker 4 I also,

Speaker 4 like, I know how advanced the Astros are in a lot of their systems and stuff. So it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
Right.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, I don't have like a firm opinion on it, but it's...

Speaker 4 It's shady.

Speaker 1 Did you make that video where you were saying you were playing poker that night and you had the band-aid? Was that in 2018?

Speaker 4 That was,

Speaker 4 I think that that was, no, that was last, or that was this offseason, but

Speaker 4 20, yeah, 29, November, I think, 2019.

Speaker 1 Now, was that a joke at the Astros? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you made that joke before any of this came out? Yeah.
A full year. No, no,

Speaker 1 a few months. Two months.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mid-November.

Speaker 1 But still, that was the joke you were making. He had, if you didn't see the video, Trevor had a little band-aid on his chest.
He's like, going to play poker tonight. Hope I can

Speaker 1 read my opponents pretty well or like read my cards pretty well. And he shows the band-aid.

Speaker 1 See, see if they were smart Altube would just put the band-aid directly over his nipple and just say I get chafage so this is just protecting me against my nipples bleeding and that's a real thing yeah it is it's a very serious issue in America these days absolutely this morning Buster Olney was saying that he thinks that pitchers are gonna start throwing at Astros batters next year have you have you thought about that

Speaker 4 Well, I personally won't play the Astros next year unless we face them in the postseason. So I won't be doing that.
I also don't think that that's the right way to handle things.

Speaker 4 Like, I mean, getting hit in the head or just hit in general is dangerous. I got hit with a 92-mile-an-hour line drive in 2018 and broke a shin.
Missed.

Speaker 1 From Altubay.

Speaker 4 No, no, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 No, who hit you in the shin?

Speaker 4 No, it was

Speaker 4 the first baseman in Chicago at the White Sox. I'm blanking on his name.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mark Graves. Abreu.
Abreu. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, that was just 92, and it hit me in the very lower leg, but I missed six weeks. It's It's dangerous.

Speaker 4 I never want to see people get thrown at.

Speaker 4 Unfortunately, I think that's going to happen, just given all the different personalities in the league and how strongly players feel about this issue.

Speaker 4 I've talked to, I mean, I probably talked to 10 or more players yesterday and getting their thoughts and feelings on

Speaker 4 all different aspects of it. And people are not too happy.

Speaker 1 Right, because guys are probably like, hey, if we're playing it straight up and they're cheating, it's bullshit.

Speaker 1 So, last question I have about the Astros and what everything's going on here. So, going forward, do you think there, how many teams do you think are like going to be caught up in all this stuff?

Speaker 1 How many teams do you think, how widespread is this thing?

Speaker 4 Well, I think that goes back to the question earlier about what is the line, right? Right.

Speaker 4 So, like, first, I think we have to decide what the line is, and then we can talk about who's crossed it and who hasn't.

Speaker 4 Man, I mean,

Speaker 4 three, maybe

Speaker 4 it's so hard to say. Right.
I don't think it's just the Astros, though. I think there's other teams doing something similar or the same.

Speaker 1 The Astros were just the team that everyone kind of knew about.

Speaker 4 I think that's it. And also, like, they get a little bit of a bad reputation for how they treat people.
You know, and I, again, I have to preface all this by saying I'm not an Astros employee.

Speaker 4 I've never played for them. I don't know firsthand, right?

Speaker 4 But you hear things talked about, you know, people talking about how they treat their employees or how they, you know, just different feelings and stuff. So

Speaker 4 when that's the case, if something goes down, you become a target, you know. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 It's a black eye for baseball, though, for sure. I'm glad it's getting cleaned up.
Hopefully they get it all cleaned up and we can just move past it.

Speaker 1 And go back to juicing the baseballs. Yeah, yeah.
But hey, home runs are fine.

Speaker 4 Everyone loves home runs, right?

Speaker 1 That's the best part is bring to Super Bowl bats. Yeah, don't cheat cheat in baseball, but baseball is choosing baseballs.

Speaker 1 So out of the people that you've talked to around the league,

Speaker 1 what is the general sentiment in terms of the punishment that people would like to see happen?

Speaker 4 Oh, man,

Speaker 4 that varies so much. You know, some people are like, oh, man, they really got hammered.
Some people are like, oh, that's just a slap on the wrist.

Speaker 4 I think it kind of depends on the person's...

Speaker 4 personal level of involvement with it.

Speaker 1 Right. I feel like Clayton Kershaw, you know what? Here's what we'll do for Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 1 I will remove one strike, one tally mark from from the Clayton Kershaw I can't pitch in the postseason chart that I keep at my desk. Yes, yes, that's fair.

Speaker 4 Man, poor Clayton. I think he gets such a bad rap.

Speaker 1 I know it's right. It's so unfortunate that it happened to him.
Do you?

Speaker 1 It really is. Have any of the guys that you got into the Twitter beef with on the Astros, have they ever have any of them reached out and been like, oh, it looks like you're right?

Speaker 4 No, of course not. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, they should.

Speaker 1 Do you think it'd be possible to be a player on the Astros, like any player on the team, and not know that this was going on? Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Good question.

Speaker 4 I think it would be possible. Really? I do.

Speaker 1 Unlikely.

Speaker 4 Unlikely, I'll say. But I do think it's possible.
I don't think that everybody there

Speaker 4 is a cheater or was complicit in it.

Speaker 4 And also, something that needs to be said about this, too, is what are the guys there, like let's say there's a player on the team that doesn't agree with what's going on.

Speaker 1 What is he supposed to do in reality?

Speaker 4 Like, can he come out and blow the whistle on his own team? He'll never play again. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He'll get blackballed.
Who can you talk to in your organization? You might not know who's a safe person to raise that flag with. Right.

Speaker 4 I mean, if it is organization-wide and everybody's doing it, then you don't have an outlet to go. You can go anonymously to the media, maybe, but then like it's just that you're risking so much.

Speaker 4 You're risking millions of dollars, your job. I mean, if you have a family, being able to support them, like

Speaker 4 I've seen some takes about, oh, fires didn't come out early enough and he should have come out when it was happening. It's like, what do you expect the guy to do?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He can't do that. Right.
He's not, yeah. He would, he would definitely be blackballed.
Um, all right, so moving on from the Astros, you are very active on Twitter. Yes.

Speaker 1 Would you say it's safe to say you're a dick on Twitter?

Speaker 4 I think I get a bad reputation because my sense of humor doesn't come across to people that don't know me directly.

Speaker 1 Got it. So it's just a prank.

Speaker 4 Like, I do things a lot for the laughs. Like, I'm very, very, very rarely serious.
Okay. In, I mean, in

Speaker 4 life, on Twitter,

Speaker 4 I just... Baseball is one thing that makes me serious.
Like when I pitch after my post-game interviews and stuff, I'm still in that locked-in mode. But other than that, I joke around non-stop.

Speaker 4 So I just like making people laugh. I like keeping it light.
And I think for people that don't know me, it comes across that I'm... upset or being a dick or whatever.

Speaker 1 That's not the case.

Speaker 1 Are there any posts that you would take back that you regret?

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's one. There's one.

Speaker 1 Which one was that?

Speaker 1 Do we got to get into it? Yeah, when you bullied the girl?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 For like a week.

Speaker 1 Do you regret how that played out? Because it was...

Speaker 1 I don't think that you were trying to attack her personally, but I think what ended up happening was since you kept engaging whether other people saw this and she's not, you know, she doesn't know that you're joking around necessarily.

Speaker 1 She's not inside your head. And so there were people that were tweeting at her for the week and it made her uncomfortable.
No doubt.

Speaker 4 I'm not that kind of played out no yeah of course i see how it played out and like i

Speaker 4 that was never my intention to like make someone miserable i never have that intention right like i responded a couple times directly to her and to in my eyes it was just like a playful banter like hey you're my least favorite player welcome to the fan club i don't think you have fans well i have seven hundred four thousand people on twitter that say differently like it's just this back and forth kind of like banter, right?

Speaker 4 And then the way Twitter works, other people start commenting on it and you get tagged and there's 15 people tagged in a tweet or something like that.

Speaker 4 And it's hard to tell who's talking to who, when, and what's being said to which reply. And

Speaker 4 so we both end up tagging a lot of tweets that people were talking about. And so I would respond to other people,

Speaker 4 but she would be tagged in it. And so it just kept.
Yeah. kept on going.
It was never my intention to go at her directly. I had no ill will towards her or anybody, honestly, on Twitter.

Speaker 4 Like I said, it's just for the jokes, just for the laughs.

Speaker 1 You do the iced tea method. You talk a little shit, log off.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes I don't log off quick enough. Yeah, so that wasn't your one treat that you regret.

Speaker 4 No, no. What was the one treat you regret?

Speaker 4 There's an exchange a couple years back where

Speaker 4 people were going back about, like, oh, you should quit Twitter. You should do this.
Like, I hope your mom gets cancer. And just general, like, BS on Twitter, right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 someone said something to me, and I responded, like, in a way, trying to illuminate basically like how ridiculous the person sounded.

Speaker 4 And I said, you know, feel free to delete yourself or something like that. Right.
And I meant nothing by it, you know, but of course it comes off as like I'm

Speaker 1 encouraging.

Speaker 4 And yeah, that one, I mean, yeah, that one definitely crossed the line. I do feel bad about that one.
I deleted it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so there's the contrition. Boom.

Speaker 1 You ended up deleting yourself. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I want to say thank you. I'm a Cubs fan.
So thank you.

Speaker 4 You're welcome.

Speaker 1 For being an idiot.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 With the drone. But hold on.

Speaker 4 I'm not just an idiot with the drone. I'm always an idiot.

Speaker 1 But hold on. Spin zone here.
Our guy, Hank, he's a producer. He has also cut his finger on a drone.
Oh, baby. And was out on the DL for a while.
How long?

Speaker 1 Well, I wasn't really playing a sport, but

Speaker 1 I didn't get some stitches in my hand. I was out for like a week.

Speaker 4 How many did you get?

Speaker 1 Just like two. It wasn't too bad.
It was just like the top of my middle finger. What happened? What exactly happened

Speaker 1 when that went down?

Speaker 4 Oh, man. So I custom design all my own drones, right? Really? I design them on CAD.
I get the parts either cut by.

Speaker 1 And these are the racing drones, though. Not like, I was using like, I was like filming.
Like, I was trying to do one of the camera. Like, this is, you're talking about like the drone racing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. This is

Speaker 4 the one that I built, like, topped out about 80 miles an hour. Okay.

Speaker 4 But I custom designed everything, right? So then I have to assemble all of it. I have a 3D printer.
I print my own parts. I get the electronics wired up, all this different stuff.

Speaker 4 So I just finished this brand new design. I went out earlier that day and I flew it and it was doing well.
And then in the middle of a flight, it kind of tumbled out of the air.

Speaker 4 And usually when that happens, a motor went bad, right?

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 but he's shaking his head.

Speaker 1 He's like, this is exactly what I thought.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So the way you test it is you, you know, normally you would take the props off and you would turn the motors on and see which one didn't spin.

Speaker 4 But these motors are tricky sometimes because if there's no load on them, if there's no prop, they'll spin. But as soon as you put a load on it, it won't spin.

Speaker 4 So I set it on my bed and the plan is to flick it on, you know, stand back like 15 feet in the room, flick it on, see which motor doesn't spin, turn it off, and then I know which one to fix.

Speaker 4 So as soon as I touched the battery leads, there's like a short in the flight controller board. I touched the battery leads and one of the motor that wasn't working spun at full throttle.

Speaker 4 Had the prop on it and it cut me three times before I could get my hand out of there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I okay, so the way you just described it, I'm going to say you're not an idiot.

Speaker 1 I thought you just grabbed it out of the air.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 That would have been way sicker than that.

Speaker 1 No, I thought you were just flying drones like before a game on the field and you're like, here comes my drone and just snagged it and like, boom, I cut my finger. To be honest.
Right, not an idiot.

Speaker 1 We've probably

Speaker 1 perpetuated that myth. Yeah, that you've done.
And that's snatching drones out of the air. We assume that you hurt your hand the exact same way that my guy hurt his.

Speaker 4 I get super nervous anytime I see, I won't go near him when the blades are spinning out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So every time I turn it on, I put my feet on top of the propellers so that

Speaker 4 they can't spin when I plug it in.

Speaker 1 You're trying to caught your foot, though. Yes.

Speaker 4 I got shoes on.

Speaker 1 See? All right.

Speaker 1 Here's the other thing. Here's the other nice part about this.
There's a long list of dumb baseball injuries. So you're just part of that.
Like, that is actually a prideful thing. Like, who is it?

Speaker 4 There's the Qatar Hero one, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Katar Hero.

Speaker 1 I know Sammy Sosa sneezing throughout his back. I think John Smoltz tried to iron a shirt that he was wearing.
Yeah, Burger

Speaker 1 was one back in the day. There's all kinds of people.
He broke their wrist washing their car. Yeah.
Chris Sale broke his ankle

Speaker 1 walking off his truck.

Speaker 1 Suspidus, the wild boar, he broke his ankle getting chased by a wild boar. So showering.
You're just in there, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm on that list. I'm on the

Speaker 4 dumb, you know, throwing the ball out of the stadium list.

Speaker 1 I'm on a lot of lists.

Speaker 1 That was kind of a flex by you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you do that a lot. I don't, right?

Speaker 4 I don't want. Yeah, I do that a lot, just not in a a game.

Speaker 1 Right. That was the flex part where you're like, well, look at me, strong man.

Speaker 1 Throw it.

Speaker 4 That was actually, yeah, that was actually nowhere close to my max distance.

Speaker 1 I think I threw it like

Speaker 4 I went from 10 feet behind the mounds.

Speaker 4 I think it's 410 in Kaufman, so it must have been like a 340-foot throw or something like that, 330-foot throw. But I've been out to 400 before.

Speaker 1 Damn. That's crazy.
400. So wait, when you do that,

Speaker 1 do you think that part that played a part in you getting traded?

Speaker 4 It's two days later. How much, how much much can I...

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks like I asked a good question.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it might have.

Speaker 4 Obviously, any information you have going into the deadline

Speaker 4 plays a part in decisions that are being made and emotions that are had right then.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Okay, so maybe that had a part because it was two days later.
That was your last start.

Speaker 4 That was my

Speaker 4 last start. Yeah.
Last throw I made as an Indian.

Speaker 1 But the Reds probably saw that and they were like, that was cool as shit.

Speaker 4 Well, mind you, at the time that it was going on, well, not like at that time,

Speaker 4 specifically on like that Sunday, but when I got traded, Puig was in that same trade and he was involved in that Amir Garrett Pirates brawl.

Speaker 1 Yes, which is awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So we have, yeah, I'm getting traded to the Reds. Puig has been traded to the Indians, but is currently brawling with the Pirates.

Speaker 4 And I think the Reds' Twitter came out and just said the tweet was, a lot's going on right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then didn't you go back to the Indians games after you'd been traded? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, so, okay, so for people that don't know about kind of how a trade works, I have a

Speaker 4 Momentum made a video for me, my media company, of kind of the behind the scenes of it. But there's a lot of stuff you have to do when you get traded.

Speaker 4 You got to clean your locker out. You got to talk to the media usually.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of things that go on. You tip the clubbies, you say bye to everybody, all this different stuff, right?

Speaker 4 So I found out that I got traded at like 11 o'clock at night, and I got to pack my entire apartment up, get my stuff. I want to get to the Reds as soon as possible, join the team.

Speaker 4 So I was asked that night not to talk to the media because it wasn't technically official yet until all the physicals cleared and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 So I decided I was going to talk to the media the next day. So I didn't bother to pack up my locker or anything.

Speaker 4 I just went home, packed up my apartment, and I was going to come back the next day to pack up my locker. So I did, came back in the morning, packed up my locker.

Speaker 4 But when I came back, in the rush of everything, I forgot my checkbook. So I didn't have, I couldn't tip the clubbies, couldn't take care of the people that were, you know,

Speaker 1 2019, right? Yeah, I still write checks. I just wanted to make sure

Speaker 1 you were going to tip the clubhouse guys with checks.

Speaker 4 That's always what I do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a shock. You seem like a Bitcoin guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Monero.

Speaker 1 Oh, Monero? Is that altcoins?

Speaker 4 Yeah, different.

Speaker 1 Have you heard of Bitcoin 2Gen?

Speaker 4 I have not. I'll tell you about it after the interview.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, but keep going.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 I go back in the morning, don't have my checkbook, clean out my entire locker, but I made sure to get there before anyone was there so I didn't have to like,

Speaker 4 you know, I wasn't in the way of any of the new guys coming in or whatever the case is. So go back home and I still hadn't talked to the media because they weren't there when I got there.

Speaker 4 So I was supposed to come back. My media director asked me to come back closer to game time when all the media was there to talk to the media.

Speaker 4 So I come back and stand in the hallway outside of the clubhouse. Never actually went in and gave the head clubby Tony checks to distribute to everybody and thanked him and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 And then went to talk to the media. Did the whole media scrum.

Speaker 4 The game was going on. And so after that, I was like, you know, I've never actually seen a game in progressive.
I've never been in the third deck. Right.
I've never like walked around the stadium.

Speaker 4 While I'm here, before I leave, I might as well just go see what it's like as a fan because I've never done that before, you know. And so that's what I did.

Speaker 4 I went up to the third deck, walked around, went out to the

Speaker 4 bridge and the home run porch and just kind of checked out like an inning and a half of the game just for novelty's sake, right?

Speaker 4 And then it got blown up and you know, someone snapped a picture of me and it kind of went viral on Twitter, and people had all their different opinions. But yeah, that was the story behind it.

Speaker 1 That's kind of cool. Yeah, I mean, you never think like a guy doesn't, you know, pitcher or player doesn't get to watch the game from the stands.
Why not check it out?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd never actually, like, I'd never been to a game, right? An MLB game, like

Speaker 4 while I've been a player, because we don't, you know, we were in the dugout, but we never.

Speaker 1 Did you buy anything? Did you buy a beer? No, no.

Speaker 4 Actually,

Speaker 1 I had a Trevor Bauer jersey just to take one for the road.

Speaker 4 I had a couple for my locker that we get to keep.

Speaker 4 But I had some extra bobbleheads because my bobblehead and I was two weeks earlier or something.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 I had a couple sitting around in my locker, so I actually handed those out to some fans and whatnot.

Speaker 1 All right, man of the people. All right, so you have, I was reading you have 19 pitches?

Speaker 4 Over the course of my career, I've thrown a lot of different variations.

Speaker 1 Can you name them all?

Speaker 4 No, some can't be said on air.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa, okay. We'll bleep them out.
No, no, no. Can you write it down and we won't say it? Have you ever thrown an Ephesus?

Speaker 4 I'm working on an Ephesus, actually. I want to throw an Ephesus.

Speaker 1 Yes, do it.

Speaker 4 Some of those videos of like the 50-mile an hour, like slow-pitch softball-looking pitches that just land perfect. Oh, man, it'd be so great to pull that out in a game.
El Duke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you think you could, do you think that it would screw a hitter up if you just busted out an Ephesus?

Speaker 4 I think it would the first time, but I mean, as A-Rod showed us, if you throw two in a row, they get destroyed.

Speaker 1 They get smashed, but you got that one time. It's like, and now it's just one other thing for them to think about, right? Did you ever see the Darvish-Grinky

Speaker 4 game?

Speaker 1 Which one?

Speaker 4 Where they were going back and forth with Ephesus curveballs?

Speaker 1 Yes, I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they just kept getting slower and slower. They got down in like the mid-50s.
Yeah. And like, Darvish would throw in at 70, and Grinky would be like, nope, I'm going to throw in at 69.

Speaker 4 And then Darvish would be like, I got 65. And then Grinky's like, oh, I can go 60.
And as the game went along, they just kept throwing these big looping Ephesus. It was great.

Speaker 1 You need the Ephesus.

Speaker 1 Wait, so can you don't tell us what the unknown name pitches do just tell us the name of the pitch can you do that like one of your mystery pitches can you tell us the name no that's what no that's what i can't that's what i can't say why that's because they're dirty words

Speaker 4 got it potentially dirty words and got it yeah just internal named after people internal yeah it might be there's you know there's some there's some skeletons in the closet there what about a gyro ball uh okay so do you know what a gyro ball is you know what gyroscopic spin is absolutely not delicious okay yeah

Speaker 4 uh a football so a football is a spiral it's just that's gyroscopic spin the axis of rotation is pointed in the direction of travel of the ball so a lot of people throw gyro balls actually in the big leagues they're just sliders that don't you know they're just okay a gyro spinning slider i just i hear the term gyro ball right and i think back the dice case pitch he's the only one on planet earth that knows how to throw it yeah i had to i got to break some myths here okay so can you throw a knuckleball

Speaker 4 so i actually throw three knuckleballs at the end of every throwing session session because I figure when I'm like 40 and throw 82, I might be able to extend my career a couple years. Yes.

Speaker 4 If I work on it. So it's a slow build.

Speaker 1 But it's working?

Speaker 4 I'd say it works like every

Speaker 4 once every two weeks.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Which is up from never.
So it's improving.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's improving very slowly.

Speaker 1 By the time you're 42, you'll be able to throw it. I think like 100 knuckleballs.

Speaker 4 I think I'm on pace. PFT Make the joke.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 off-speed pitch coming.

Speaker 4 Where's the. It's in Where's the air in the pitch? Where's the trash can?

Speaker 1 It's the air in the pipe.

Speaker 1 It's the air can.

Speaker 4 Hanging out in our shit.

Speaker 1 Thanks for setting me up for that one.

Speaker 1 What about a screwball?

Speaker 4 I've thrown a screwball, actually, in the past. I called it a reverse slider.
Back in college,

Speaker 4 my idea was to create a slider spin, but the opposite way. And that's basically just a screwball.

Speaker 4 It worked. It was fine.
But as I dropped my arm angle, I couldn't get to the inside of the ball as easily. And so I kind of nixed it.

Speaker 1 You're like a mad scientist. You like to tinker with things.
I do. You're like the breaking bat of pitchers.
I read that you melted down like Coca-Cola and Pine Tar and mixed them together.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I heard about this ex-Detroit pitcher who

Speaker 4 used this mixture. And so I decided to test it out and see what happened.
And my spin rate went up 400 RPM.

Speaker 1 Huh? Were you like science, bitch?

Speaker 4 Yeah, pretty much those exact words.

Speaker 1 Put an astros jersey on me.

Speaker 1 Spin rate, baby.

Speaker 4 I've checked out a lot of different stuff. Like

Speaker 4 I test a lot of stuff in the offseason, from foreign substance to aerodynamic effects to

Speaker 4 right now. I'm throwing with

Speaker 4 special swimming goggles with duct tape on them for testing some eyesight stuff.

Speaker 4 So, I tinker with a lot of stuff. You can use those PFTs.

Speaker 1 I can.

Speaker 1 I got some rec specs that are tinted if you want them.

Speaker 4 Might as well try them out.

Speaker 1 We'll see. So, do you, because I've watched some of your videos where you're tinkering with everything.

Speaker 1 Do you, in your mind, are you like, if I can just tinker long enough, I'm going to eventually just never give up a hit again? I wish.

Speaker 1 That's the goal, right? It feels like you're thinking that, which I love. I love that idea of like, I can perfect this.

Speaker 4 Right. Let's get as close to perfection as possible with the understanding that you'll never actually get there because we're unfortunately still human and cyborgs haven't taken over yet.

Speaker 1 But you're trying to make yourself a cyborg. Yeah, that'd be cool, I think.
Yeah. Do you welcome the cyborgs?

Speaker 4 I actually, that's how I want to die. I want to die either in the Robot Revolution or get killed by a Decepticon.

Speaker 1 Now, are you saying that? Are you just saying you want to die in the robot revolution to like befriend the robots? So, like,

Speaker 1 how much time do you think?

Speaker 4 They're probably going to kill me anyway.

Speaker 1 I'm going to die to you.

Speaker 1 That's where you're wrong. See, you're saying that you want to die fighting against the cyborgs.

Speaker 1 I want the robots and all artificial intelligence. No, I'm on its side right now from the get-go.
I'm selling out my people.

Speaker 1 So, when they eventually do become sentient and can fight in wars, they know I'm a good guy. There we go.

Speaker 4 They'll probably enslave you.

Speaker 1 That's fine. They might look at your Twitter and be like, hey, this guy's jokes aren't funny.
He must be a robot.

Speaker 4 Hey, that's a great point.

Speaker 4 That is a great point.

Speaker 1 Can you power rank things that are most hilarious out of these three?

Speaker 4 Oh, boy. There you go.

Speaker 1 69. Yes.
Okay. 420.
All right. And BOFA.

Speaker 4 Bofa's got to be at the top, man.

Speaker 1 You still like Bofa?

Speaker 4 Bofa's got to be at the top for sure.

Speaker 4 There's so many different applications for it.

Speaker 4 I actually have

Speaker 4 a shirt, Bower Outage for America. It just says BOFA.
It's like a political campaign.

Speaker 4 So BOFA's got to be number one. And then,

Speaker 4 yeah, 69 is just nice.

Speaker 4 That's a good second place. And then we'll put 420 in third.

Speaker 1 That contract that you signed was pretty sick.

Speaker 1 What happened? What's up?

Speaker 4 I'm so full of regrets.

Speaker 4 Really? I wanted to file at a very certain specific number and didn't get to.

Speaker 4 But, yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 4 I just, like I said, I'm I do it for the laws.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have some fun. Yeah, I like that.
You're not taking it too seriously. Because I think that you are right when you were explaining Twitter earlier.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people take Twitter very seriously. Yeah.
And everything they read, they're like, this is meant literally.

Speaker 1 And they don't realize that half the things that we say on Twitter are just joking, just fucking around.

Speaker 4 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like if you're sitting out at a bar with friends and you say some of this stuff, it comes off completely different than if you write the exact same thing in the exact same context on Twitter.

Speaker 4 That's true.

Speaker 1 It is true. That's the truth.
Twitter is dangerous that way. Have you tried Skyline Chili yet?

Speaker 4 I have not. I was only actually in the city of Cincinnati for about a month because we play half our time's on the road.
Right.

Speaker 4 And so between trying to find a place to live and then a place to stay for next season and figure out how to actually get to the field and how not to mess up with timing and routines and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I didn't really try anything.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's delicious.
It is

Speaker 1 delicious.

Speaker 4 Not. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's terrible. I've heard different, I've heard mixed reviews.
A lot of people in Cincinnati swear by it.

Speaker 1 They love it.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 4 anybody outside of Cincinnati has negative reviews of it. So, yeah, I'm excited to try it.

Speaker 1 All right, I got one last question. It's seek eat question.
Put in promo code take. Go to a Reds game next year.

Speaker 1 Promo code take you at $10 off.

Speaker 1 Now that you're in the NL Central, I don't know if you've ever played in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 Did the Indians ever go play in Milwaukee?

Speaker 4 Yeah, we played there a couple times.

Speaker 1 All right, so heads up. The Pfister Hotel is haunted.

Speaker 4 I'm all about it.

Speaker 1 So go there. We actually had a ghost hunter, and we ghost hunted in the Pfister Hotel.

Speaker 4 How did that turn out? Did you find anything?

Speaker 1 I found a shitload of ghosts. They got in their equipment.
They measured the frequency of the signals from the ghost and the poltergeist. There was a poltergeist in a room.

Speaker 1 Actually, it was Hank's room, right? Yeah, it was a whole thing. Sick.
Yes.

Speaker 4 You guys got to take me next time. That sounds awesome.
We can go ghost hunting. We'll do ghost hunting.

Speaker 1 Let's make a teacher. Anytime you want to do ghost hunting, we'll ghost hunt.
What do you do

Speaker 1 in the off days? Do you just hang out?

Speaker 4 I run two businesses and train non-stop.

Speaker 4 So you just hang out? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Got it.
Got it.

Speaker 1 My last question. I want to know more about the transcranial direct current story.
Oh, yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 So man, you dug deep. Apparently, well, I read a single article.
Okay. And it was a good article.
Yeah. It's good research.

Speaker 1 So apparently you you hook up electrodes to your head and you electrocute yourself and it helps you learn facts faster. Yes.

Speaker 4 Basically.

Speaker 1 And it works.

Speaker 4 Well, it's really hard to say. They have some studies that they did.
The study that I read, they did with sniper training.

Speaker 4 And they had one group that would wear the actual unit and one group that would wear a placebo unit.

Speaker 4 And they were testing target acquisition. So they'd flash a target out there and see if it was an enemy or a friendly or whatever, right? And the group that used the actual unit vastly outperformed.

Speaker 4 the group that didn't in a six-week study. And they're super accurate.
They had a much higher accuracy in identifying the target and also hitting the target.

Speaker 1 So were they getting electrocuted as they were trying to search for the targets or was this immediately after?

Speaker 4 No, it's immediately after. So you have this like hour-ish long window after you use it in which you can work on your skill and your brain is just hypersensitive to acquiring new information.

Speaker 1 Oh, we should do that. We should electrocute ourselves to do Rubik's Cubes.
We've been trying to figure out how to do that. Yes.

Speaker 1 And become geniuses.

Speaker 4 Pro tip here, though, make sure that the lead is all the way plugged into the machine.

Speaker 1 Because if it's only halfway, it's going to be a new injury for you, isn't it? Like Trevor Bauer DL brain stimulation. So that burnts his own brain.

Speaker 4 The first time I plugged it in, I thought it was all the way in. I turned it on, and I'm like, okay, I turned it up a little bit, like very low, just to test it out.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I don't really feel anything. And all of a sudden, I got this,

Speaker 4 everything just went white, just like flat.

Speaker 1 You just feel like a concussion, yeah. Became powder.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know what I became. I was gone for a second.

Speaker 1 That's fascinating. I mean, you're obviously a very intellectually curious guy, which I appreciate the hell out of because because those people are always the most interesting people.

Speaker 1 What other things are you like tinkering with along those lines? You got any other theories that you're going with?

Speaker 1 We're junk science guys, too.

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 4 I'll test anything in the offseason, honestly. There's

Speaker 4 the amount of different substances I've tested on the ball.

Speaker 1 What about prayer?

Speaker 4 I have prayed. Oh, Lord.
I have prayed.

Speaker 4 There are certain times where I'll

Speaker 4 mostly around Duke basketball games.

Speaker 1 You're a Duke fan? I'm a big Duke fan. Oh, God.

Speaker 4 Is that it?

Speaker 1 Trevor Burrus.

Speaker 1 You guys are just twins. He's a Duke fan, too.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to the game tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Duke Louisville. You need to pray for Coach Kay's health whenever they lose because he's always got the flu or a back injury

Speaker 1 and lays down.

Speaker 4 My man does not sleep very often.

Speaker 1 Why? He's just too busy giving cash away.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't know anything about that, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, exactly. All Duke fans don't know anything anything about that.
Man, I liked you, too, and then you just dropped the Duke bomb on us.

Speaker 4 I'm not, you shouldn't like me. So I'm glad we've, we've come full circle.

Speaker 1 You like, but see, this is where I think that you're playing mind games. You like being unliked.

Speaker 4 I think there's a lot of fun to be had in that gray ground.

Speaker 1 But if you like being unliked, if I unlike you, then you are really liking that, so I'm making you happy. Bye.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so either way I win, right? So if you like me, I win. And if you dislike me, I'm like, oh, yes, I win.

Speaker 1 Right. So you're like a troll in real life where if somebody doesn't like you, you're laughing at them because they don't get the joke.
But if they do like you, you like them.

Speaker 1 You like them because they think you're funny. Exactly.
I got you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be the smartest man I've ever talked to. Or the dumbest.
I don't know. Probably that.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, Trevor, thank you very much. Appreciate your time, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's been great. Thanks for having me on.
Take care.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to say, I'd say it anyway.

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Speaker 1 I'm coming for your love of gay. Shall I wait?

Speaker 1 I'm coming for your love on gay.

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Speaker 1 here.

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Speaker 1 here.

Speaker 1 Some of me less insisting.

Speaker 1 I'll be somewhere else with

Speaker 1 seven

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Speaker 1 Make some meditation, save the charming, stay on me.

Speaker 1 I think that's the same

Speaker 1 life. It's just like a burning way.

Speaker 1 you are things I've come to remember. Being shy away,

Speaker 1 love you many ways.

Speaker 1 Love you

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Speaker 1 Take you,

Speaker 1 dream,

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Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 go.