Barry Sanders, Colts LB Darius Leonard + Our Role In OBJ Gate

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have Barry Sanders Hall of Famer, Barry Sanders in the flesh. We interviewed him in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 We also have Darius Leonard, Pro Bowler from the Indianapolis Colts in the flesh. Interviewed him in New Orleans.
Very productive week so far.

Speaker 1 We also have a little cleanup from our national championship interview with Joe Burrow and Coach O on Wednesday. We have some cheating by the Astros.
Everyone's cheating.

Speaker 1 Everyone's getting fired or walking away. It's chaos in the baseball streets.
And of course, Championship Sunday. Preview of Championship Sunday.
Guys, we only have three football games left.

Speaker 1 We need to embrace that. We need to love that.
The Pro Bowl, though. The Pro Bowl.
We need to love that. We need to embrace it.
So everyone get ready. Sunday is one of my favorite Sundays of the year.

Speaker 1 So we will preview that.

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Speaker 1 Are we snitches? No, we're not snitches. Snitches get snitches.
All we did was have a conversation with a friend, and then other snitches picked up on it and reported it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so to recap, if you missed Wednesday's show, go back and listen to it right now because it was an all-timer with Joe Burrow and Coacho. mere hours after they won the national championship.

Speaker 1 We had a conversation with Joe Burrow, just guys, you know, being friends, having a good time. It had happened on Monday night.

Speaker 1 odell beckham was handing out money everyone saw the video it went all over the place we happened to ask just a simple question of joe did odell beckham hand out cash now we didn't say it was a real cash but do we have this transcript you want to read it so that people can know here we go here's the official transcript so that we can exonerate ourselves courtesy of jake marsh jake marsh transcribes snitch gate 2020 i almost said 2019.

Speaker 1 mr cat did odell give you money joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 Um, yeah. I'm not a student athlete anymore, so I can say, yeah.
Did he give you money? Not real money, not fake money. That's all he said.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's not part of the transcript. Mr.
Cat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's sick. He was just handing out cash.
I was thinking it would have been awesome if Odell started printing fake money as a flex. Joe Burrow said, with like his face on it? Mr.

Speaker 1 Cat, yeah.

Speaker 4 Like you try to pay for a drink and this is monopoly money. That's sick that he was just handing out cash.
How much cash did he bring? Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 So I.

Speaker 1 First of all, that's total exoneration. 100%.
Cash does not not mean real or fake. Right.
Does not mean you just asked cash. Right.
Cash.

Speaker 1 You were basically saying, were there bills that were put into your hand?

Speaker 1 If anything, Joe Burrow agreeing how funny it would be if it was monopoly money, it seems like he's very aware of what fake money would look like, which would make you think, hmm, that might have been fake money.

Speaker 1 He's like, you're right, big cat.

Speaker 1 That fake money is hilarious. The night's coming back to me.
It was fake money.

Speaker 1 I'd also like people to go back and listen to the transcript before we did the interview where we talked about getting Joe into that room because technically we kidnapped Joe Burrow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did not consent to the interview. We went out, we brought him into the room, we sat him down and started asking him questions.
He was probably afraid at the time. He was afraid for his life.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So he was going to say anything he could to get out of that room. He was under duress.
Yeah. We were kidnapping.
We should be in jail. We are.
We will go to jail for LSU. You know what?

Speaker 1 I will self-report our compliance infraction of kidnapping to the NCAA. Yes.

Speaker 1 Part of my take is willing to shoulder whatever whatever sort of punishment the NCAA deems fit, and that will be on us as a podcast. We will self-report that.

Speaker 1 So ultimately, it's really not a big deal because I think that LSU is going to deal with it by just giving the money back to Odell. It was a weird situation.
Odell had a night.

Speaker 1 Odell really made it about Odell.

Speaker 1 And if anything, I feel like we're getting some blame that should be more, hey, like, how about the guy who was just handing out cash and putting them in a compromising situation, real or fake?

Speaker 1 We don't know. I don't think we're getting that much blame for it.
No, we are. Yeah, it's not.
Well, it's discrediting. Except immediately.

Speaker 4 They're just taking those words and completely, like, they have nothing else to talk about. So they're just taking those words.
Right.

Speaker 4 And they said that Joe Burrow confirmed that the money was real using the quote when he said, yeah.

Speaker 1 Very curious.

Speaker 4 The question wasn't, was the money real?

Speaker 1 Very curious that oftentimes no one, and we don't actually care if people

Speaker 1 say our name when they use our interview. We do the cease and desist as a joke.
Like, I don't care if Colin Coward gets our name right. It's a fun back and forth.

Speaker 1 I just want Leroy to be credited one time.

Speaker 1 It doesn't actually matter to us, but it seems like the media is going above and beyond to credit us with this story, the one story that could possibly be misconstrued as us being bad.

Speaker 1 So that's bullshit. I know what you're doing.
Greenie, I know what you're doing, bro. Florio was the one that hurt.
Yeah, Florio hurt. Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 1 And he went out of his way to credit us big time on that one. Yeah, shit.
All right, so Florio's on my shit list too now. Fuck.
Okay, well, either way, we did nothing wrong except have

Speaker 1 was hanging out with a buddy. Yeah, and it's having a great time.
It's on all the it's on TMZ.

Speaker 1 I'll bet you was a Bama fan actually at TMZ that wrote the initial article that got everything going and it was probably Nick Saban probably gave Odell Beckham the money to hand out to the players as well.

Speaker 1 So let's not let him off the hook for this Plus, here's one other fact that that was brought to my attention by a listener, Mike Martello.

Speaker 1 So Joe said when we asked him how much money he was going to have in a couple months. Yeah.
Remember that? We said, man, you ever think about how rich you're going to be? Great question.

Speaker 1 His answer was probably a million times more than I have right now.

Speaker 1 So he did the math on this. Kyler Murray made

Speaker 1 $32 million

Speaker 1 minus taxes, or before, that was before taxes. So that would mean that Joe Burrow would have no more than

Speaker 1 $32 in his pocket at the time of the PMT interview. Wow.
If he said he's going to have a million times more. So it's...
And Odell was passing out alleged $100 bills.

Speaker 1 So that would lead one to believe that it was a fake

Speaker 1 Odell dollar bill

Speaker 1 that Joe Burrow got, according to his own words. New article you can run.
Joe Burrow denies

Speaker 1 that it was fake money in the same interview. So there you go.
We rest our case. Also, Odell Beckham lost his mind.
So now he has a warrant out for his arrest. He really made this about himself.

Speaker 1 So it was pretty crazy. He really made it about himself this much.

Speaker 4 And he was, he like broke, he like interrupted Cocho's speech.

Speaker 1 Interrupted Cocho's speech, slapped a police officer in the ass, put

Speaker 1 a bunch of players in compromising situations with real or fake money. We don't know.
Odell Beckham did a good job of making this national championship solely about Odell Beckham.

Speaker 1 The Cocho interruption, I didn't get as much of like an interruption vibe as a lot of other people did.

Speaker 1 That just seemed like he was saying something, and everybody in the room was like, yeah, like that seemed like it was pretty well in the bounds of normal behavior.

Speaker 1 The rest of it, I just think he was fucked up. Yeah.
I think he was messed up in the locker room all the time, like we all were. We all were.

Speaker 1 Do you know this? Here's a fact, PFT, that I learned yesterday: Trevor Lawrence played like shit in the national championship game. Yeah.
I had no idea. Overrated.
17 overthrows. There you go.

Speaker 1 Did you know? Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 I had no idea.

Speaker 1 It was crazy to learn that fact on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 My big problem with Odell slapping the officer on the butt is he used one hand. And when we were kids growing up, we were taught to use two hands.
Really nice push.

Speaker 1 Really looked the ass into your hand.

Speaker 1 He's got no fundamentals. He's all about that one hand action.
Yeah, and he didn't lick it first. No, he didn't.
Also, that was also very disrespectful. I'll take the fault for this one, too.

Speaker 1 I'll take the fault for that one, too, because Odell saw the police officer. He was a short gentleman.

Speaker 1 He was a short gentleman.

Speaker 1 He probably thought it was me. Odell is a listener of the show.
He had a dunk. He heard me saying that I wanted to be slapped in New Orleans, and he was trying to do me a favor.
There you go.

Speaker 1 So thank you, Odell.

Speaker 1 It was a good thing that you did in theory. It was just a case of mistaken identity.
Sounds like we have gotten ourselves out of this one. Yep.
Easily. And people also said...
That's that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw some people saying, but if it was fake money, why were the players taking it? Well, wouldn't you want as a novelty fake money from Odell Beckham? That can be resold.

Speaker 1 Now, that might be a violation. I don't say they shouldn't resell it, the fake money.
To resell fake money. Yeah.
As a novelty thing. I think that's fine.
That's like the opposite.

Speaker 1 That's double counterfeiting. So

Speaker 1 we're fine. So we'll fix each other out.
Yeah, we're fine. You know what? We're fine.
We're fine. I also like that LSU's initial explanation was, no, no, he was just, Odell's just a counterfeiter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's just as he's he has millions of counterfeit dollars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And also, Clemson was passing out those $2 bills, which we learned is a thing.
So everything was a little loose, fast and loose in New Orleans. He

Speaker 1 can't really hold anyone accountable for that. I'd say we just, if you're the NCAA, this is a perfect opportunity to just move on.
Yeah. Just like,

Speaker 1 let him give the three seconds.

Speaker 4 It's the basketball season back or whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, worry about someone and just move on. Getting a

Speaker 4 BC doesn't have problems with that in basketball either. So forget about that.

Speaker 1 No, I have yet to hear anybody care about this issue, like from an actual, like, oh man, this is a bad standpoint.

Speaker 4 Wasn't that how it's Louisiana Who Cares started when the basketball coach was doing it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so really you're the narc if you care. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're the cop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was saying earlier, the only people that could possibly care about this outside of the four people in Indianapolis whose job it is to only make sure how much money they make all year round at the NCAA

Speaker 1 would be somebody that has like a burner account set up on an SEC message board just in case. Right.
Just in case their primary gets banned. Right.

Speaker 1 So that's that. We've moved on.

Speaker 1 BarcelGold.com slash PMT, by the way. You can see both of our interviews because they were in person.
We have to move on to something else before we get to the preview. The Astros.

Speaker 1 The Astros cheating thing has taken on an insane life of its own because now we have Alex Core got fired. Carlos Beltrand stepped down.

Speaker 1 And on top of all that, we now have Carlos Beltrand's alleged niece tweeting that the Astros had buzzers under their jerseys.

Speaker 1 And they have a clip where El Tuve is running to home base and he's running

Speaker 1 after hitting a walk-off home run. I think it was in the ALCS against Chapman.

Speaker 1 And he's telling them, do not rip off my jersey because I have a device underneath my jersey that buzzes me every time there's a fastball.

Speaker 1 Now, he didn't say the last part, but he did say, do not rip off my jersey. He was holding his jersey together like a very modest woman in a rainstorm.

Speaker 1 And he was protecting it, and he was saying, no, no, no, do not touch me, do not touch me.

Speaker 1 I think it's because they tore his jersey off the previous time, right? Yeah. So he had to walk off, and they ripped his jersey off, so he was saying, don't do it this time.

Speaker 1 And allegedly, it's because they had the bug. There's one solution to this problem.
Make the players play nude. And take away trash cans.
I was going to say also. Contribute to recycling.

Speaker 1 All the trash cans in the clubhouse. It's alleged that the Dodgers are going to get mixed up in this as well soon, and that they were one of the teams.

Speaker 1 So the other thing they should do is retroactively give the Cubs the 2017 World Series. So back-to-back, no big deal.
Are the Cubs dynasty now?

Speaker 1 They lost to the Dodgers, and the Dodgers lost to the Astros. Cheaters, cheaters, cheaters.

Speaker 1 Just do the right thing. I like that.
Another banner. Yeah.
Also, the Washington Nationals should get two trophies for this year for beating the Cheaters. Yeah.
That's extra

Speaker 1 that they did. The whole thing is crazy.
I mean, baseball. I love it because this is not uncharted territory for baseball.
Baseball gets in a cheating controversy every 15 years that rocks baseball.

Speaker 1 So, Greenies, Steroids, Pete Rose,

Speaker 1 Spitballs, Spitballs, White Sox. The White Sox.
There's all kinds of controversy. So they'll be fine.
There's just. They didn't let minorities play for a long time.
They didn't let minorities play.

Speaker 1 They didn't let the Cubs win a World Series for a really long time. There's a lot of things that baseball has done wrong.

Speaker 4 What's his face's son in the clubhouse?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Adam Dunn. Adam LaRoche.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
He's a huge fan of the broken. Drake La Roche.
Drake LaRoche. Drake LaRoche.
Drake LaRoche. Chris Sale cutting up his jersey at a protest.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of things that have been done. So it's time to run.
Tom almost barely.

Speaker 1 Who was it that almost got run over?

Speaker 1 Dusty Baker's son almost got run over. That's right.
Yeah. In the World Series.
Scoop him out of the way.

Speaker 4 Deion Sanders playing two sports.

Speaker 1 Now his Curry Lou is pissing on his hands. Nuts.
Crazy scandals going on. Yeah, crazy, crazy scandal.
So is it time for Gary Bettman to return to?

Speaker 1 Sammy Sosa was framed and someone put cork in his bat and then bleached his hands. No, that's all, yeah.

Speaker 1 There's all kinds of crazy. Someone dunked Sammy Sosa and bleached.

Speaker 1 No one's talking about that guy. Bullshit.
It was just a bleacher running out there scot-free. The Rangers, like, single-A or whatever, made each other jerk each other off.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't talk there like that anymore.

Speaker 1 That was a wild scandal. Yeah.
No, it just jerked me off. That was, yeah.
There's a lot of controversy. So I like how that one was branded as hazing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I just got a hand job from my teammate because he was hazing me. So I don't even know where baseball goes from here.
I think, I feel like it's death penalty. Life time ban.

Speaker 4 Give lacrosse America's sport.

Speaker 1 Give them all the stadiums.

Speaker 1 It should no longer be America's pastime.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. The whole thing's so crazy, though, because now, like, if they were wearing buzzers, that's insane.
Yeah. That's insane.
It is crazy. So somebody called in to a radio show in Philly today.

Speaker 1 I want to read this take because it is Chef's Kiss. Perfect.

Speaker 1 They called in and said it was Mark and Reese, the Mark and Reese show in Philly. If we had stolen signs in World War II, we'd all be speaking Japanese.
So

Speaker 1 you hadn't stolen it.

Speaker 4 America hadn't stolen signs.

Speaker 1 Right. Yes, if we hadn't stolen signs in World War II, we'd all be speaking Japanese.
Sign stealing is the most American thing someone can do.

Speaker 1 I think he, first of all, grossly overestimates Americans' capacity to learn foreign languages. Yes.
But secondly, that's just like, I will take my hat off to that take. Yeah.
all day long.

Speaker 1 Making a lot of sense. The Astros basically had little Enigma machines strapped to their body.
We won the Cold War the same way. That's more patriotic than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You won the Cold War where you just had to, you know, spies everywhere. You need that shit.
So yeah, baseball, I don't know. I guess people are just going to keep getting mad.

Speaker 1 I like it because if you follow enough people on baseball Twitter, it's just, it's every hour a new video comes out where they're like, check this out.

Speaker 4 And it's like that the fans of the teams that are getting fucked over are now looking for other teams to put the blame on them because they they don't want to take responsibility.

Speaker 1 This is actually a sneaky way for baseball to grow the game because I feel like in the last three weeks, I have re-watched way too much baseball.

Speaker 1 This is the most social media friendly of the game in the world.

Speaker 1 I've ever known there's clips on social. Oh, exactly.
All the way up. There we go.
They're trying to hide everything, Hank. Also, Gary Sheffield Jr.
is getting in on it, saying that he's a player.

Speaker 1 He's a player

Speaker 1 saying that that account.

Speaker 4 Does Gary Sheffield have a son?

Speaker 1 I'm sure he plays baseball. He said

Speaker 1 probably on the Blue Jr. Jr.

Speaker 1 So he said that that account that was allegedly from Beltran's niece wasn't actually Beltran's niece, but rather it's a player

Speaker 1 using that as a burner. So this is the most

Speaker 1 social media buzz that the game of baseball. They're executing the scandal perfectly to maximize clicks.
And Jessica Mendoza went on Gola Comwingo and had the worst take ever. That's right.

Speaker 1 There are so many technicals to this.

Speaker 1 She's really disappointed in Mike Fears for whistleblowing this whole thing. Like, what?

Speaker 1 Aren't you more mad that teams were

Speaker 1 doing crazy cheating? That should probably be the story. But either way, people are mad at her.

Speaker 4 It's like Stephen A status.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So it was an interesting zag on everyone's going one way.
Like, hey, baseball, this is kind of fucked up that everyone's cheating with buzzers under their jersey.

Speaker 1 Actually, the real fucked up part is we, has anyone ever snitched? Yeah, people open their stupid lying mouths. Yeah, actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 We should probably defend Jessica Mendoza as an anti-snitching podcast. That's true.
So, you know what? Good, take Jess. So, Jess would, you know what?

Speaker 1 If the scandal hadn't come to light, Major League Baseball would have three great managers still managing their

Speaker 1 teachers of the game. Right.
We're trying to make baseball more accessible to a wider audience, and to do that, we need the best product possible.

Speaker 1 So, if you're able to get away with cheating, you should be allowed to do that no matter what. Bring back steroids, too.
Yeah. Do it all.
I mean, steroids should be back. Yeah.
HGH Leech, at least.

Speaker 1 All right. Steroids won us World War II as well.
Yes. Because we copied, well, not steroid, but we copied the Germans' meth drug that they were handing out to the screen.
Right, screenies. Screenies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so we gave our guys meth too. And that's how we, so there you go.
Yeah. All right.
Let's do some football talk. Championship Sunday.
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Speaker 1 Okay, AFC championship game. Kansas City.
Back-to-back AFC championship games. Andy Reid, a game away from the Super Bowl.
Andy Reid, a game away from Miami. We're going to get Tommy Bahama Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 We're going to get Shorts Andy Reid. But holy shit, the Titans and what they're doing are standing in the way.
I don't really know what to make of this game.

Speaker 1 So Andy Reid is, what, one in five in championship games? Whatever. Conference championship games? I should say that.
So

Speaker 1 listen, Patrick Mahomes said earlier today that he wants to make Andy Reid happy more than he wants to make himself happy by winning this game. Agreed.
I like that. Yes.

Speaker 1 In fact, that makes me happy for Patrick Mahomes because he cares more about making Andy Reid happy. That's how much I want Andy Reid to be happy.
And I'll put it this way. I want the Chiefs to win.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I'm betting on the Titans.

Speaker 1 All right, I got a stat for you. Isn't that a good way to cover both my bases? Yeah, it is.
I got a stat for you. Well, I have a stat.

Speaker 1 If you were smart, you'd follow this stat. I'm not going to.
The under is 36, 23, for Andy Reid at home with the Chiefs. It also is an under-referee.

Speaker 1 So the referee, I can't remember who's refering this game.

Speaker 1 Cleep Blakeman is an under-referee, but I'm taking the over and I don't care because I actually, when you're looking at this game, I feel like both offenses match up perfectly with both defenses.

Speaker 1 The Titans

Speaker 1 secondary will not be able to stop Kansas City, and Kansas City's run defense will not be able to stop Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 Give me the over. over.
53. I don't care.
I don't care. I like that logic because the only thing is, I think Mike Vrabel is going to do something weird with the defense.

Speaker 1 But there's not, that's the thing. You can do weird stuff against, you know, like the Ravens.
You can stop the Ravens by putting eight men in the box and everything.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't stop Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill and Micole Harbin when they're all running routes down the field. And you're like, holy shit, how do we guard all of these guys?

Speaker 1 You know, the only way to do it, get pressure on Pat Mahomes, Mahomes, the four guys. Also, play man-to-man coverage.
Warren Sharp said that. Yeah, just blitz him.
Just blitz him.

Speaker 1 No, if you blitz him, you're fucked. You're fucked.

Speaker 1 Here's the trick to beating Pat Mahomes. Sack him.
Sack him. If you can tackle him before Patrick Mahomes can pass the ball, he is a 0.0 quarterback.
Intercept him. Yes.
Yeah. That's good.

Speaker 1 Just get a lot of interceptions. I also, this is going to be really stupid analysis, but I think it matters.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs in the Patriots game last year in the AFC Championship game played at Arrowhead at night. This one's going to be kicking off during the day.
I think that changes things.

Speaker 1 Because you look at them and you're like, oh,

Speaker 1 I've seen this movie before. They've lost this game exactly this time last year under the lights in Arrowhead.
Now, maybe it's going to be a little bright out,

Speaker 1 a little different. Also, the refs.
Again, it was very stupid analysis.

Speaker 1 The refs are going to be actively engaged in helping it to be a Chiefs versus Packers Super Bowl so they can get that buzz of Super Bowl one repeated in year 100 for the best.

Speaker 1 So you're taking the Titans? I'm betting on the Titans against the spread, not straight off. Seven and a half, seven right now, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm betting on the Titans right now, but I'm rooting for the Chiefs. Okay, I'm going to take the over.
I don't care. Here's another stat.

Speaker 1 If you want to bet on the Titans, you want to feel smart. Underdogs in the playoffs, three and a half points or better since 2003, 43, 28, and 1.
That's pretty good. I knew that.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm betting. So take those dogs.
Oh, sorry, underdogs that are not public underdogs. So it is public money is on the Chiefs and the 49ers.

Speaker 1 So that means you should probably take the underdogs. Double dog.
Double dogs, money line. Double dogs.
You're going to moneyline them?

Speaker 4 I'm going to moneyline double dog parlay.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's the only way to end the season.

Speaker 1 Put it in and tell us how much it pays.

Speaker 1 $100 bet.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the other game,

Speaker 1 the Packers cannot win.

Speaker 1 No, they cannot.

Speaker 1 I don't think they will. The 49ers defense is healthy.
Yes. They kicked the shit out of the Packers the first time around.
By the way, the Packers, did you see, what does it pay?

Speaker 4 100 to 1, 800.

Speaker 1 Whoa, that's pretty good. 8-1.
The Packers did a,

Speaker 1 on their social media, they did one play from each game, and it was hilarious because

Speaker 1 the Packers' losses have been bad losses. So it was one of the plays was them scoring a touchdown against the Chargers when they were down, like 30-0.

Speaker 1 And the other play against the 49ers was they were down 23-0, and they converted a fourth down. That was the one play they put in the one

Speaker 1 down conversion highlight of the whole season.

Speaker 1 What quarter was it? It was the third quarter. Jeez.
Yeah. Listen, here's the thing about this game, this matchup.
The Packers' defense cannot stop the 49ers' offense. Yes.

Speaker 1 And the Packers' offense cannot stop the 49ers' defense. I don't see a way that the Pack win this game.
I really don't. Don't.

Speaker 1 No, you're fine.

Speaker 1 And Rodgers' revenge game. I liked where you're going, but then you went too far.
No, I know what you're doing. What was it? When you said, I don't see any way the Packers

Speaker 1 win this game. Just by telling you too far.

Speaker 1 When I implied they couldn't win this game, I was with you. But no, but get yourself away.
Now you went too far, and now I know what you're doing. The Packers.
Packers are sniffed it out.

Speaker 1 They're not making

Speaker 1 scrolling. I don't want it.
You don't have to worry about being down in Miami and spending a week around Packers fans, putting their ownership certificates in your face, wearing the cheese set.

Speaker 1 You're not going to have to deal with that.

Speaker 1 Having one week of semi-football vacation down in Miami for the Super...

Speaker 1 That would never happen to you.

Speaker 4 Have you factored in the fact that the 49ers passed up on Aaron Rodgers in the draft when he wanted to go there?

Speaker 1 Yes. And it talks about it all the time.
I added that to my calculation. I don't see that being impacted.
I don't feel like Aaron Rodgers is a guy to carry a grudge. Do you want to fun fact?

Speaker 1 If Aaron Rodgers wins this game, he will be 10-5 in the playoffs,

Speaker 1 one Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He'll have the exact same record as

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco. Oh, there we go.

Speaker 1 So hopefully Aaron Rodgers can someday be as good as Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco, one of the best postseason quarterbacks of all time.
I'm just saying. That's the only thing you remember, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 Everyone calls Aaron Rodgers the goat?

Speaker 1 He's 9-5. No one calls him.

Speaker 1 They call him the boat. You even say it, Biggie.
They go, he's the best quarterback ever, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 Like the most talented or some shit.

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And I'm going to hate myself. Also, I am.
He's going to give such a fucking cocky.

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Nah, he's going to do a post-game. He's going to be like, yeah, I guess I'll go to Miami.

Speaker 1 What's the Super Bowl bonus for Aaron Rodgers like? I'm sure he's got that incentive baked into his continent. He's true.
He probably needs that money. He can't make that mortgage payment without it.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't want the Packers to win the Super Bowl because if they do, they do that thing where they sell more stock right after a Super Bowl win. It dilutes my share.
Yeah.

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And then Greg Kittle's got like a little ankle. I think you're safe.
It's gonna be okay. He was full practice.
Don't worry about it. He's full practice.

Speaker 1 I need my boy.

Speaker 1 I need my horse to ride. I think it's gonna be.
I need him to ride to just fucking throw people out of the club.

Speaker 1 niners chiefs great i would love that that would be a fantastic super bowl joe montana elvis gerback get all the big stars out the fans too much red though alex

Speaker 1 green yeah no the red is a little tough no don't do that no i'm just saying aesthetically it'd be aesthetically pleasing the grass is going to be green it's fine it's fine the 49ers are going to win the 49ers are going to win the 49ers are going to win i think you're right it's going to be fine and maybe we'll talk to uh some 49ers players if because that's really what we're rooting for Because if the 49ers get there, we know people on the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have to get them to the Packers facility and interview their coaches. No, that was a bit...

Speaker 1 People forget about that.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone forgets about that. We had a lovely time up in Lambeau.
No, no, no. I would like to talk about that.
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Speaker 1 Last thing we should throw out there, it's the Le Fleurblau Bowl. LeFleur.
Le Fleuble. I would actually say it is the, boy, Dan Snyder really fucked this up, Bull, because

Speaker 1 it was two former assistant coaches on the Redskins playing against each other. Yikes.
Yep.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's do some interviews.

Speaker 1 Let's start with Barry Sanders, and then we will get Darius Leonard, Pro Bowler from the Indianapolis Colts, right after him. But here first is Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest,

Speaker 1 one of the greatest running backs of all time, maybe the greatest running back of all time, depending on who you pull. It is Barry Sanders.
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All right, so it's great to have you on. Again, like I said, you were like one of our first maybe 10 guests at an autograph signing in Chicago for three minutes.

Speaker 1 This one's gonna be a little bit longer, and we're a little bit bigger now, and we're happy to have you on.

Speaker 1 Where should we start? Should we start with,

Speaker 1 are you officially retired?

Speaker 1 That's a serious question. Yeah, that's smiling.
He's not smiling over here. I actually got smiling.
No, that's not a problem.

Speaker 1 Okay, so my dad has, I swear to God, for a decade after he retired, he'd be like, right around July, August every year, he'd be like, you know who's out there? Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, I don't know. And I still think that you could put up.

Speaker 1 What could you put up if you had to get out there right now on a Sunday? You have a great offensive line. You got a great scheme.
How many yards you put in? I'm giving you 15 carries.

Speaker 1 15 carries a game? Yeah. You know how many? Maybe I can put up, I don't know, 500, 600 yards, something like that for the season.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 there we go. That's pretty good.
The thing is, you're not actually joking about that. And I'm not joking about laughing at it because I believe that you could.

Speaker 1 Like, if you were in Kyle Shanhan's offense, if you played on the Niners, I think you could have 500 yards this season, right now. If I played on the Niners this season,

Speaker 1 I appreciate that, man. Yes, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, at what point after you retired, though, like what age were you like, ah, maybe it's not like, because I'm sure there was a couple years where you're like, I could still do it if I wanted to.

Speaker 1 That's the great thing about retiring. When I did, you know, I can always sort of play that game, right?

Speaker 1 Even when I'm like 90, you know, I can still sit there and say, yeah, you know, maybe, maybe I still have a little something something left in those legs. Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, so at 50, I feel like I feel like I could run maybe a four, five, four, six. Right.
You know, when was that now? Four or six. Yeah, that's good to know.

Speaker 1 Because you're playing the same game that my dad's been playing for the last 20 years. And like Paris Handers still got something left in those legs.
When was the last time you put the pads on?

Speaker 1 It was when I played. That's it? Yeah, when I played.

Speaker 1 I feel like you put them on every now and then. You think I can put them on at the house? In the back, just watching the game, maybe watching the game, put on the helmet.

Speaker 1 Just walk in front of the mirror and just look at yourself. Like, I look like a football player.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. That's the one thing.
When I look in the mirror, I do not look the same way I did when I was 25 years old.

Speaker 1 I look a lot different. Father of time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It happens, man. I mean, I feel like I'm decent for a 50-year-old guy, 51, actually.
You look younger than both of us.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm decent, but yeah, you know, had you seen me, you guys weren't born back then, but had you seen me.

Speaker 1 Had you seen me when I was 25, man, I'm telling you. Listen, you would be impressed.
Listen, we know Barry Sanders. We were

Speaker 1 like mid-90s. We were about 10 years old.
So we

Speaker 1 knew Barry Sanders. Right, you heard the name.
You heard the name. Yeah, you cut up the bears all the time.
You'd cut up everything. I try to.
I'll try my best. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And you have one of the best highlight reels of all time on YouTube. Do you ever watch your old highlights? And you're like, damn, that guy's good.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I do.

Speaker 1 You know, people, I don't like just going Google myself and watch him, but just

Speaker 1 having to see him, ESPNs may be doing something.

Speaker 1 For instance, Chris Berman did his top 50 plays recently. And I was thinking, maybe I'll come in at like number 20 or something like that.

Speaker 1 But I think I was like number five on his list of top 50 plays in NFL history.

Speaker 1 And so that was like in the last few weeks. And he showed, you know, the Patriots run I had in 97 where I'm kind of spinning the guy around.

Speaker 1 It may have been a Bears highlighted. It might have been more, too.

Speaker 1 I didn't have enough Bears highlights, though. That's one thing I regret.
I didn't have enough Bears highlights. Well, I'm going to get to that later because I have some stats I'm going to read you.

Speaker 1 I have a game we played with Jerry Rice when we had him on, so we'll do that later. But did you,

Speaker 1 there actually was a moment in the Ravens Titans game where people were talking on Twitter because Derrick Henry turned Earl Thomas around and basically was pushing him in the back.

Speaker 1 And is it, it must be nice knowing that like when you juke a defender so bad that he's actually turning around, that's like Barry Sanders. That's like a Barry Sanders thing.

Speaker 1 That's a Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 It's definitely a high, high compliment.

Speaker 1 Like he got mossed or something like that, sort of, sort of thing. You got someone just turning around not knowing where they are on a football field.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's the thing that I live for as a running back.

Speaker 1 There was nothing I love greater than playing in the NFL and lining up seven yards deep,

Speaker 1 playing this game. You never knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 1 And for me, I grew up watching great running backs.

Speaker 1 And you guys talked about Chicago. I mean, I was glued to the TV when Walter Payton played or Tony Dorcet or Marcus Allen or Earl Campbell.

Speaker 1 The list goes on, you know, and so

Speaker 1 and so I loved. I mean, you know, hey, look, it's one of those games where sometimes

Speaker 1 you get humiliated and then sometimes you get to humiliate the other guy. Right.
You know, so

Speaker 1 is it crazy, though, to look back and I think one of the greatest like testaments to who you were as a football player is since you played, there hasn't been a guy who you're like, that looks like Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 Even Saquon Barkley, people make that comparison, but it's not all the way there where the ability to juke guys out of their shoes to that level, like that's really the testament is that you are one-of-one kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I guess. I mean,

Speaker 1 I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 1 You know, like I said before, man, I watched so many guys play, and I feel like I... I feel like I borrowed here and there from different guys and maybe put my own little spin on it, so to speak.

Speaker 1 No pun intended.

Speaker 1 But right.

Speaker 1 I've always wondered when it comes to an elite-level running back, I think that you're a perfect example of this.

Speaker 1 You were always, you could tell watching you that you were thinking two steps ahead of the defense. Like your reaction time was so much quicker than theirs.
You would be able to get around them.

Speaker 1 You knew where they were going to go. You knew how to get around them and all that stuff.
What is your internal monologue? Like, what are you thinking?

Speaker 1 What does a running back think to themselves when they have the ball in their hands?

Speaker 1 Well, for me,

Speaker 1 it's really just trying to be focused

Speaker 1 and trying to be able to react quick.

Speaker 1 Because, like I said before, you know, or I've said previous times, you know, being the smallest guy on the field, but being like the biggest target,

Speaker 1 you understand that, okay, this is...

Speaker 1 You're playing against, you know, Mike Singletary or John Lynch or Ray Lewis or Lawrence Taylor or Ronnie Lott.

Speaker 1 And those guys mean business.

Speaker 1 Right. And so for me, it was really just about being focused

Speaker 1 and really just keyed in to that specific thing. You know, that particular play.
I would say my biggest fear

Speaker 1 playing the game was not playing well.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, maybe sometimes

Speaker 1 I get a little bit of a flash of, okay, yeah, the game's dangerous or you can be injured. But my biggest fear was just not being able to be great at running the football.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 those are some of the things that I was thinking as I'm carrying the ball, as I'm practicing, as I'm running wind sprints, that kind of thing,

Speaker 1 being great, being excellent.

Speaker 1 I never thought I'd be in the NFL. which a lot of people,

Speaker 1 if you saw me in high school or whatever, you would not have said, okay, there goes a future NFL player

Speaker 1 so when I got the opportunity to play it it was the greatest gift that I could ever imagine so for me it was just about cherishing it and making the most of it and like I said before just being able to be in that setting against all those great players

Speaker 1 for me was it was just

Speaker 1 absolutely phenomenal and I just wanted to make the most of it. That's interesting because Jerry Rice was saying when he had the ball in his hands, he was afraid.

Speaker 1 That's why he was fast because he didn't want to get hit. He was afraid of getting tackled sometimes.
With you, you were just afraid of not being the best Barry that you could be. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And plus, I don't want to admit to being afraid of Mike Singletary and Lawrence Taylor. Even to this, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't want to have that. You can't have that.
Let them have that even to this day. No, no.
Hell no. That's what Jerry was saying.
He was like, he ran a 4'7-9 or whatever 40-yard dash at the combine.

Speaker 1 But then when he played on the field in pads, he was much faster than that.

Speaker 1 Nobody was chasing him at the combine. Right.
What a beautiful player. You know, just a beautiful player.
The way he, I mean, every game he was catching 50, 70-yard touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 And I had the pleasure of working out with him one summer, by the way.

Speaker 1 And that's exactly right. If he and I lined up and ran a 40, I would probably finish first.

Speaker 1 You know, but you never saw him get caught from behind. Right.

Speaker 1 And the fastest guys on the field are the defensive backs, the guys who are chasing him.

Speaker 1 You know, but that's, you know, I mean, he's such a great player in that aspect he had serious football game speed. Did he work out with his horse? Yeah, peat the horse.
I didn't have a chance to.

Speaker 1 He did. That's how he got fast.
He chased the horse. Yeah.
He said it was the best horse in town. And when he caught it.
So this growing up, he had a horse? Yeah. Okay.
Okay. No.

Speaker 1 Well, I caught him once he moved to the Bay Area, you know, when he left Mississippi. I don't know.
No more horse. Did he have the horse? I don't think he's.
He had the horse down there.

Speaker 1 No, did you have any? I can see him riding down the one-on-one in his horse ball.

Speaker 1 Did you have anything like that, though?

Speaker 1 Like growing up,

Speaker 1 smaller town,

Speaker 1 the world is different now where it's training, you know, camps and all that stuff. Did you have anything like an old school workout that you used to do? Chasing horses, catching bricks, whatever?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 For me, it was

Speaker 1 a couple of things. I live close to Wichita State University.
So I would go up there.

Speaker 1 and run around the track or I would run the stadium stairs and hop the stadium stairs, which was, you want a good workout, try hopping

Speaker 1 the state. And sometimes we did one leg, but mostly mostly just like a squat hop.
You go all the way down. And they had about 80, there's about 80 stadium steps.

Speaker 1 And so we got to the point where we would do that, me and my brother.

Speaker 1 And then there was a couple of my buddies also had weight sets. I didn't have a weight set.
I'm one of 11.

Speaker 1 That's the last thing my parents were going to spend money on was weights. But one of my close buddies had a weight set.
You know, the

Speaker 1 concrete weights wrapped in plastic, you know, to start breaking apart. After a while, you can hear the little

Speaker 1 concrete inside kind of breaking apart. That's probably before you guys' time.

Speaker 1 But there were two of my buddies that had weight sets, and I would go over their house and just, you know, pump iron. And after that, go run at Wichita State University.

Speaker 1 The cool thing about it was I got a chance to see some of the college players

Speaker 1 that I was familiar with, you know, sometimes. And sometimes even the weight coach at Wichita State would allow me to work out in the training room with the college kids, which was a big deal.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, just, so, you know, so yeah, I was

Speaker 1 always, uh,

Speaker 1 I mean, that was my routine, you know, just working out and running and playing. You know, and I was when I wasn't doing that, I was playing basketball.

Speaker 1 Um, you know, and when I wasn't doing that, I was working with my dad.

Speaker 1 My dad was like a roofer, um, so I didn't, I didn't catch bricks, but I spent a lot of summers on top of different roofs, you know,

Speaker 1 hang, uh, you know, doing shingles and things like that. So, so, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I think some of those things really gave me good focus and good work ethic, you know, and I think really helped me in my path. Can you still dunk?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, we were talking about a 10-foot goal? Yeah. Oh, a 10-foot goal, you're saying.
Yeah. I just want to make sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because the eight-foot of gold. Yeah, yeah, 12.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping they move it a goal up higher. Yeah.
Can you? Yeah. But

Speaker 1 not at the moment. No, I don't don't think I could dunk that a 10-foot goal.
I know you're disappointed. I feel like you could.
No, I feel like you could.

Speaker 1 Had you called me maybe 10 years ago. Maybe.
When was the last time you tried, though?

Speaker 1 It's probably been 20 years since I've been in the middle of the year. I feel like if we had a hoop right now and we gave you like a little, like an afternoon, you'd be like, all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 That's not true. Yeah, no, I have a

Speaker 1 15-year-old son who plays basketball.

Speaker 1 And so I go out and flew around with him a little bit. So, yeah, I've tried to dunk more recent than that.
Or at least try to touch. Well, I'll put it like this.
I've tried to touch the rim.

Speaker 1 So, if you can't touch the rim, then you probably can't dunk. You can still touch the rim, though.
I can't, no, no, no, no, I can't touch it.

Speaker 1 Come on, because if you can touch the rim, you could say that you could dunk.

Speaker 1 That's where my mind would go. Like, if you can touch the rim,

Speaker 1 I would just say

Speaker 1 raise the rim, then you could say, yeah, maybe on a good day. I could tell that you had tried recently to dunk because you said definitively that you couldn't.

Speaker 1 And I know just from talking to you for the last 15 minutes that you would have an unwavering belief in yourself that you still could dunk if you were unsure. Like, if you hadn't tried it recently.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So, you've gone out there, you just sized up the basket, and you're like, mm-hmm, no, not anymore.

Speaker 1 And then, plus, you know, at this stage, you don't want to exert that much energy on those kind of activities. That's why I dunked.
Things pop, man. Yeah, things pop and break.

Speaker 1 I never dunk just because I don't want to exert the energy. But once upon a time, absolutely, man.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah, there's

Speaker 1 no dunking. There's video to prove it.
So, Andrew Luck retired this past offseason, kind of, you know, similar, not you were similar age where it's like you retire in your prime.

Speaker 1 Everyone was, for the most part, like, hey, that's a good move. He wants to retire.
When you retired, everyone's like, what the fuck is Barry thinking?

Speaker 1 Did you look at that this time around? I'm like, man, things have changed where guys can retire in their prime and people will be accepting of it. Yeah, I mean, things really have changed.

Speaker 1 They've come full circle. And I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, understanding more of the dangers of the game.

Speaker 1 And certainly, you know, for Andrew, missing a season or two

Speaker 1 that he had to, you know, sort of experience and what have you. But yeah, things have, in the last 20 years, it's a much different reaction.

Speaker 1 You know, and

Speaker 1 yeah, because when I did it, man,

Speaker 1 it was crazy there for a while. It was, it was very, it was, I mean, pretty much all the coverage was negative.
I know I probably could have handled it different, just being more honest about it.

Speaker 1 You waited until like the last day and you faxed in your retirement to Wichita uh newspaper right right right yes yes yes something like that yeah

Speaker 1 which you know a buddy of mine was a writer for that paper and so that's kind of that's kind of how that happened and weren't you doing the solid to the running back at the time who was it that you basically were like who was the running back who who took over for you when you retired For the Lions?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I couldn't even tell you, man, honestly.
Okay, so maybe that story is wrong. I was reading a story.

Speaker 1 It was like, Barry Sanders is the nicest human being ever, and you essentially helped whoever was the running back at the time by retiring late enough in the offseason or in the

Speaker 1 preseason that they couldn't go find a replacement and gave him a full shot. Oh, so there literally are stories.

Speaker 1 That was nice of me. Yeah, Barry Sanders is the nicest guy ever.

Speaker 1 But I've heard on different twists, I've just heard people say that maybe because I didn't want to break Walter Payton's record, because at the time I think I was second on the list of all-time runners, and Walter was first.

Speaker 1 And I think he had just recently passed. No, he hadn't passed yet.
He hadn't passed yet, but he was very sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was very sick.

Speaker 1 But for me, honestly, it was just one of those things where

Speaker 1 I understood that it was time to leave. I knew that just that drive and determination and that fire that burned for me to be a player.
And I think also because of the 10 great years that I had

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 sort of how my career turned out, I could walk away in that fashion,

Speaker 1 you know, under my own sort of influences and powers and

Speaker 1 that sort of thing. And so,

Speaker 1 and so, yeah, that's pretty much what it was. You know, but it is interesting just to see how different things are now than back then.
That gets lost sometimes.

Speaker 1 You played for 10 years as a running back. Now, that's like an eternity.
Yeah. No one would ever say that you're walking away from the game early.
That's if you play for 10 years these days. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Especially if it was on the Lions. Like Calvin Johnson, when he retired, everyone was like, we understand.
Yeah, ma'am. We get it.
Right, right, right. Especially

Speaker 1 and also the way that game was played in the 90s. I mean, it was a different game in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 Just how physical it was,

Speaker 1 and maybe even more violent

Speaker 1 than it was much more run-oriented.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, I mean, to play 10 years,

Speaker 1 that's like probably 20 or 30 years doing something else. You want to do some Barry Sanders stats? Because this is my theory.
That we talked about it with Jerry Rice when he was on. That with the

Speaker 1 explosion of fantasy football in the last 15 years, guys are remembered differently in the last 15 years than they were in the previous 15 years because everyone's like, oh, I had him in my fantasy team.

Speaker 1 He won me a title that year.

Speaker 1 So I have the idea of we need to get a random Twitter account that just tweets out like this day in Jerry Rice or this day in Barry Sanders' history, he had this many points.

Speaker 1 So I got a few games I want to know if you remember. First of all, just to say it out loud, the 1988 season for Oklahoma State, you had 2,850 yards, 42 touchdowns, and 12 games.

Speaker 1 Were you just in the zone for the entire season? Oh, wow. No.
Hey, look. That was

Speaker 1 mine.

Speaker 1 What's your question? Was I? Yes, I was in the zone. Oh, you're in the zone.
The entire zone. The whole entire season.
Yes, the entire season.

Speaker 1 Plus, I had, you know, fifth-year senior offensive lineman. Mike Gundy is a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Mike Gundy. Yes.
A gentleman,

Speaker 1 the guy on that team coming into that year, because no one would have really known who I was, but the guy who we knew was going to be a first-rounder was a guy named Harley Dykes, wide receiver.

Speaker 1 Just a great team, man. Great team.
And it was just one of those amazing, magical years

Speaker 1 from the kickoff, from the starting kickoff of that season, right? Which I was still playing special teams when I ran back 100 yards,

Speaker 1 you know, and it just got better from there. They should wear those jerseys more often, by the way.
You think so?

Speaker 1 Those are unbelievable. Those old Goldman State.
All right, so Barry Sanders, this week in fantasy, week 13, 1991 against the Vikings. Do you remember your stat line?

Speaker 1 Do you remember anything about that game? What year? Week 13, 1991.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I remember it was a really good game.

Speaker 1 In Minnesota. Yes, 220 yards, four touchdowns on 23 carries.
That was probably one of the few games ever that I played where it felt almost easy. Because it never felt easy.

Speaker 1 It always felt like I was working or grinding. But that game, it felt like they never even saw me coming.

Speaker 1 And it was the week after one of our players had a one of my teammates had been injured very seriously, Mike Utley, had a serious neck injury.

Speaker 1 And that following week, we go to the Metro Dome.

Speaker 1 And of course, Mike was paralyzed

Speaker 1 at home against the Rams. But it was just one of those eye-opening experiences, you know.

Speaker 1 But anyway, the Minnesota game followed that. And yes, it was one of the easiest games I've ever played in.
Seemed easy. 220 yards, 23 carries? 23 carries, 220 yards, four touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the zone. That's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 Week six, 1995 against Cleveland. Do you remember that game? Not really.
You had 18 rushes, 157 yards. That's 8.7 yards per carry and three touchdowns.
Decent game. In the zone?

Speaker 1 You're asking me? Yeah. Yes, yeah, I was in the zone.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, some of these games are like, especially in that era of football when offense wasn't like it is now.

Speaker 1 You had week seven against Tampa in 97. You had 215 yards and two touchdowns.
If someone had you on their fantasy team that week, they'd be like, Barry Sanders is the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 So that's what we need to do: just retroactively get back and get those fantasy stats for you.

Speaker 1 I do run into guys who

Speaker 1 they say, well, you definitely won me a lot of money or you lost me a lot of money. Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I do hear that occasionally, but no, I think what you're saying, yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm down with that. Yeah, let's do it.
Did it ever feel easy to you when you were in college? And I think you had a couple games where you had, what, 300 yards rushing, something like that?

Speaker 1 302 yards, 305, something like that. It was your senior season at Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 It didn't really feel easy. I mean, I was,

Speaker 1 I mean, that was my junior year. That was my first year starting.

Speaker 1 I was trying to prove myself.

Speaker 1 You know, to me,

Speaker 1 the greatest thing in the world was being a starting running back in the Big Eight Conference. You know, I had grown up watching Big Eight football.
Now it's obviously the Big 12.

Speaker 1 But I had grown up watching Big Eight football. And

Speaker 1 I wasn't heavily recruited, but I do remember just having that thought in high school that, man, it'd be nice to go to college and play college football.

Speaker 1 And so fast forward to sitting behind Thurman for two years.

Speaker 1 And to me, again, those were great years for me because not having recruited to, okay, now I'm here. I'm at Oklahoma State, right? I'm in the big eight.

Speaker 1 I played a little bit as a freshman. I made

Speaker 1 All-American as a kick returner, as a junior. And so I feel like I'm just almost really living my dream.

Speaker 1 And then my junior year happens. And I was, hey, I was as surprised as anyone.

Speaker 1 Right. I was as surprised as anyone.
Were you surprised at how heavy the Heisman trophy was? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sucker's heavy, man. It's really heavy.
I was surprised. Yes.
Yeah. I was surprised.
Absolutely. It must be made of gold or something like that.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 But no, it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is. All right.
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Speaker 1 My last question.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you do this intentionally, but I always wondered this. You're not a big smiler.

Speaker 1 You don't really like smiling in pictures. No.
Is that

Speaker 1 intentional? You're right. Yeah.
I like it. I'm a tough guy, man.
I like it. No, I'm a tough guy.

Speaker 1 Because it would be like everyone would be smiling and Barry's just sitting there like, and I'm spending 20 minutes here with you.

Speaker 1 You obviously do like to laugh and and smile, but for some reason, the pictures always crack me up because it's like, smile, smile, smile. Barry, gonna steal your soul.
Smile, smile, smile.

Speaker 1 I have to do better with that. You're right.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They hate doing that.
Yeah. It's like you act like you've had your picture taken before.
Right.

Speaker 1 It's like handing the ball back to the referee. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like those photos from like the 1900s. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like, no one's smiling. You know, it's just like serious.
You know, it's like they hadn't even invented smiling yet. Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 People are like 17 and they're in their old age and they're about to die.

Speaker 1 Maybe like

Speaker 1 they're thinking about what's to come. Yeah, I'm 17 years old and I've been working in a mill for the last 16 years.
I'm not a farmer. No, you're in New York.

Speaker 1 You do have a great laugh, though. I feel like comedians should just pay you to go to their shows and sit in the front row.
That might be the nicest thing you said all day, man.

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It is. That's a great laugh.
That's a fucking great laugh.

Speaker 1 We're going to use your laugh as the laugh track to our show so that people think that we're funnier than we are. So we make it.
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Well, thank you, Barry.

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Speaker 1 Now, Darius Leonard. And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Indianapolis Colts linebacker, Pro Bowler, Darius Leonard.
Thank you for coming by.

Speaker 5 Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We have to start because I see you're wearing a Clemson hat. Now, we're sitting here in New Orleans.
We're getting ready for the national championship. Your brother went to Clemson, but

Speaker 1 you didn't get recruited by Clemson. And I thought that was like a piece, a little chip on your shoulder that you've used to drive you to be great in the NFL, but now you're rooting for Clemson?

Speaker 5 Well, like you said, my brother went to Clemson. grew up watching Clemson.
Clemson did recruit me.

Speaker 5 It was partially my fault because I it came out to my very last test score to qualify and it came two weeks after signing day.

Speaker 5 Uh, they said they had no more scholarships left, so you know, I went to South Carolina State, um, played there, still was a Clemson fan.

Speaker 5 I mean, that was homegrown, so I still have the love for Clemson. Um, and uh, stitch it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a fair

Speaker 1 answer. I stay in the state.
Yeah, you, you, you strike me as, from in reading everything about you, you strike me as uh, there's kind of been an underdog story to your career and people doubting you.

Speaker 1 And I thought maybe you were like holding on to the doubt, like pull up, you know, every day that you didn't go to Clemson. I'm just going to make me stronger and stronger.

Speaker 1 But you're being a nice brother and being like, I'll root for Clemson today.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, I did use that as a chip of my shoulder, not being able to

Speaker 5 play with Clemson. But, you know,

Speaker 5 just growing up,

Speaker 5 being in Clemson, I mean, I started rooting for Dempster when I was maybe seven, eight years old. So, I mean, that's all I knew.
I mean, it was love Clemson, hate South Carolina.

Speaker 5 And that's what, I mean, I still to this day is the same exact thing. And, you know, chair for Clemson and just chairing for South Carolina State, I guess.
So if

Speaker 1 University of South Carolina was in the national championship, just that's that's a funny thing to imagine Will Musk champ coaching in a record game.

Speaker 1 But just like in a bizarro world, if he was here right now, you would not be rooting. You would be rooting against whoever they were.
Or you were rooting against South Carolina.

Speaker 5 Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like that shame, by the way.
Appreciate it. I like both of them.
What does it say?

Speaker 6 It says 5 rounds.

Speaker 5 153, and the other one is first-round management.

Speaker 1 First-round management? Yes, sir. What is that?

Speaker 5 That's

Speaker 5 my agent agency. So it's a gift from them.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a gift? That's kind of bullshit, though. They put their own name on the gift.

Speaker 1 We actually get similar things where it's just like

Speaker 1 I think I got a mug and a tote bag. Kind of like the chain.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess it's cool. I mean, to have a, I mean, to have something nice, but then, you know, they got to support their brand.
They got to have a brand new brand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should say that.

Speaker 1 You should get money for advertising. Yeah.
That dude feels so good. Now, if you join our agency.
Yeah, the PMT agency. Yeah.
We're going to give you a free PMT tattoo on your forehead. Right.
So

Speaker 1 join us. We'll make sure that you get compensated for everything, including free publicity for your agency.
Will you take our offer?

Speaker 1 I have to think about it. Okay.
That's not enough. Not enough.

Speaker 1 That was not enough. That was officially not enough.
To be fair, though, it is a nice chain.

Speaker 1 I was probably where, yeah, if somebody gave me that chain, even if I had no idea what, was FRM? Yep.

Speaker 1 If someone gave me a chain says like big cat sucks, and if it looked like that, I'd wear it every day. Absolutely.
I don't care. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 You were in the NFL's top 100 list this year.

Speaker 1 Did you pay attention to that when I was coming out?

Speaker 1 Were you watching to make sure that you were going to be on that list?

Speaker 5 Of course. I mean, you know, playing a game, you want to be the best.
So, you know.

Speaker 5 Being in the top 100, you know, that's something that you want to check off on your list.

Speaker 5 Just being a professional football player. So, you know, I'm a competitor.
I wanted to compete, so I definitely wanted to make that list.

Speaker 1 What,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 do you still have the headline, the bleacher report headline on your phone? I do. Can I see it? Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 So, for people who don't know, this is why I thought you were a chip-on-your-shoulder guy, because this is the ultimate chip-on-your-shoulder move.

Speaker 1 Bleacher Report, after Darius Leonard was drafted, had a headline that said Darius Leonard, worst pick in the draft. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And he keeps it as a photo in his phone so that you can pull it up every now and then and be like, Yeah, remember these idiots?

Speaker 1 I actually, I'm pretty sure that I said it was a fantastic pick at the time because I'm a noted draft nick for the Indianapolis Cults. Yeah, we do six-round mock drafts every year.

Speaker 1 We actually had you going. Yeah, we had you going in the first round to Indy.
Yeah. So you have this, so you pull it up like every now and then, just look at it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 They also had, when Russell Wilson got drafted, they gave that an F. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's tough. Wasted a third-round pick on Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 Yeah, then I need to lose their credibility.

Speaker 1 I don't know who they are.

Speaker 1 Gone. We've just got to.
Go to to Pro Bowl. That's credibility gone.
So you still use that kind of stuff to motivate you, even though you're already, I mean, you're a Pro Bowler.

Speaker 1 You've made the top 100. All that stuff has happened.
How do you stay

Speaker 1 motivated with this?

Speaker 5 You know, I love seeing the negative comments. So I mean, I do plenty of times.

Speaker 5 I go to Twitter, I type in my name, and I just see all the negative things that people say I like them, you know, and just use that as motivation.

Speaker 5 Because, I mean, with success, you know, that sometimes you can be complacent. So if someone's still talking trash or saying you can't do something, I just kind of use that as motivation as well.

Speaker 1 We got to start typing in Darius Leonard. Yeah, just having you search us after games.
Do you have oh, there it is. So, he's got his phone.

Speaker 1 We just report Darius Leonard to Colts, one of drafts' worst picks, Kevin Hickey, April 30th, 2018. What an idiot.
Bad take. What an idiot.
Awful take. I love it.
I love that. So, you actually

Speaker 1 go

Speaker 1 name search yourself after every game. I do.
Just to see what people are saying. Yep.
And if it's too much positive stuff, do you get a little bit upset because you're like, hey,

Speaker 1 there's no motivational fuel for me here?

Speaker 5 No, I mean,

Speaker 5 there's like at the East Gaming, you know, especially after a loss, you know, that's when the fingers get the point. And so, you know, you definitely go there and see

Speaker 5 what's being said. So, I mean, I use all of that to say, okay, well, I need to go do this right here, or I'm going to go prove this guy wrong.
Like, I had some guy say that

Speaker 5 I was bad in coverage this year,

Speaker 5 that I wasn't a good run stopper, but I I was like, that's pretty crazy with over 100 tackles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you do name search for misspellings of your name too? Because usually the dumbest stuff is written by people that won't be able to spell your name right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That is a true statement, but

Speaker 5 I never did that.

Speaker 1 One time I said Le'Veon Bell, more like Le'Veon Smell, and he found it and he liked it. He searched for an alternate spelling of his own name.

Speaker 1 So he does like four different combinations of letters and he just gets all his motivation from Twitter that way.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's pretty dope. I definitely do something.
Well, Well, I just type my name in and try to see all the bad comments that I can take and use as fuel.

Speaker 1 So, would that be frustrating? Like, in practice, I know that when you played with Andrew Luck, he's famous for complimenting guys after they hit him.

Speaker 1 Have you, obviously, you weren't allowed to sack Andrew in practice. He had a big red jersey on or whatever.

Speaker 1 But did you ever make a play against him and then he gave you a big compliment? You're like, man, I wish he would be meaner.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 my first time actually practicing in India, I picked him off and he just came up to me and said, hey, great play.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 it was pretty weird. I mean, I was a rookie, and it was his first time being back on the field.
So it was definitely kind of weird getting that compliment from him.

Speaker 1 All right, I got one. Oh, oh, Darius Lenard.
So no O in there. Darius, oh, Darius Lenard want to howl? I liked him, but now he's a bitch.
Simple.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 should I retweet it?

Speaker 1 You're going to search all these, dude. You're not doing your job.

Speaker 1 That is funny.

Speaker 5 That was after the Dallas game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 5 I got so many Dallas fans after that game.

Speaker 1 Oh, because you howl.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was definitely after that game. And

Speaker 5 they didn't like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did the Leighton Vander Esch. Yeah.
The Wolfman Howe. I got to say, man, you have a lot more fans than you do haters.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 You got a lot of people who love you saying you're a beast and all this stuff. So I don't know.
I think you're doing okay.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 there's not a lot of people who are hating you out. I mean, that one comment, though, was pretty bad.
That's like worth it. That's worth 10 positive comments because the hard B.

Speaker 1 And then he dropped simple at the end.

Speaker 1 Instead of saying just like, period, he said, bitch, simple. Simple.
Like, it's over. It's a wrap.
That's just facts. You dropped the mic on Twitter.
That's facts. Oh, my God.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 That's funny. All right, so we got to start searching everyone else's.
We got to search misspellings as well. What's your burner account's name? I'm going to follow it right now.

Speaker 5 I don't have a burner account.

Speaker 5 Come on. I don't.
Come on. I don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, you look and then you.

Speaker 5 No, I don't. I just.
That was only, I probably respond maybe one time

Speaker 5 two to one, but I never, I usually never don't. I just, I just like them and keep it going.

Speaker 1 But then, okay, so this tweet that I found, the Darius Lennard, I have a reply here, and it's from at Clemson shouldn't have passed on me

Speaker 1 one, two, three, and it says, Darius is a beast. Shut your mouth.
That's not you? No, that's definitely not me.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Interesting. No, I just made that up.

Speaker 1 How did you get the nickname Maniac?

Speaker 5 It was after the Clemson game, my junior year in college.

Speaker 5 Ended with 19 tackles. Came back on campus, and they were like, hey, man, you played like a straight maniac, and kind of just went with it and ran with it.
19 tackles?

Speaker 1 That's too many tackles. That's too many tackles.
At some point, aren't you? You're like, this hurts me too.

Speaker 5 No, you usually don't feel it till maybe the next day. So

Speaker 5 at that moment, you just, you know, you want to rack up on everything you can.

Speaker 1 Did I see you wearing a full like shoulder pads and helmet this year watching the game on your couch?

Speaker 5 I had a helmet on.

Speaker 5 I didn't have the shoulder pads.

Speaker 1 Oh, you weren't wearing your shoulder pads? Okay. What was the thought process behind putting on the helmet?

Speaker 5 I was in concussion protocol and

Speaker 5 I couldn't go to the stadium and

Speaker 5 it sucked kind of just being at home away from the guys. And I just wanted to do something to kind of uplift my spirit a little bit.

Speaker 5 So I threw the helmet on, threw the jersey on and like I was there plus it's extra safe for your head if you're wearing a helmet

Speaker 1 so it was like my safety gear yeah yeah do you like the dome open or closed closed okay do you have alerts set up for when Jim Ursai tweets the roof will be open on Thursdays um

Speaker 5 he only he don't tell us until Sunday so we already there so we really don't know so usually when they get cold that's when like everybody come in and the first thing we say hey is the roof open?

Speaker 5 And they be like, well, he didn't announce it yet, so we just be waiting for it.

Speaker 1 That's his favorite part of the drive, I think, is getting to announce what the roof is going to be doing on Sunday.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, I just hope it stays closed forever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But wait, that makes you guys soft, don't you think?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? You got to play out like this in the winter? He did not like the mess word.

Speaker 5 We, I mean, if you got a dome, why not just play in your dome?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess that's all right. That's a good counterpoint.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's pointless to have a dome if you're not going to like, no, keep it closed fair it's a fair counterpoint I understand that I saw when big cat said the word soft to you that you actually had a reaction that you don't like you don't like hearing that word Darius Lenard is soft simple

Speaker 1 I'm not I didn't mean when I said you're soft I don't mean that just want to have that out there 19 tackles that's a maniac thing what was the score in that game a lot too

Speaker 5 but still 19 tackles I mean you guys aren't expected to beat Clemson that is that's true who's it was that deshaun no yeah that was um that was the sean year that was the year they won the the first uh that's one the second national championship damn 19 tackles against that team that's crazy they had some good running backs on that team too yeah they did they had um they had wayne goldman who's the uh who's the hardest player in the nfl to tackle the hardest player in the nfl to tackle um from the running back position i say uh zeke He runs behind his pad as well, so I give it to Zeke.

Speaker 1 And he also wears that like mid-drift shirt, so you don't want to touch his stomach. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 He's basically playing naked, so you don't want to wrap him up. I understand that.

Speaker 1 What about Derrick Henry? So let's play a game. It's how to solve Derrick Henry.
Because he's big and he's fast, and no one knows how to tackle. How would you tackle?

Speaker 5 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 5 you got a gang tackle.

Speaker 5 It's very rare to see one person tackle Derrick Henry. I mean, he's I say he's a DN playing running back.

Speaker 5 He's a monster. He's fast, strong.
You got a nasty nasty stiff arm, so you can't go in there lacking. So, I mean, it's just hard.
I mean, you got to hold on.

Speaker 5 You better hit him first and wait for your other teammates to get there because you're not about to do it yourself.

Speaker 1 Will Muschamp, it won't surprise you to hear this. Will Muschamp recruited him, but only wanted him to play linebacker.

Speaker 1 Said, you're just going to, I don't think that you can be a successful running back in college, is what Will Muskamp said.

Speaker 5 Talking about the coach with South Carolina? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's the one. Exactly.
You're not surprised.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was the locker room like after Andrew Luck came? Because that was weird how it all went down because it leaked while you guys were actually playing the preseason game against the Bears.

Speaker 1 And then he does the press conference.

Speaker 1 Did you guys have any idea that was coming?

Speaker 5 No, we were standing on the sideline and then we had a fan, I mean, just was screaming behind us, Andrew, don't leave. Andrew, we love you.
Then we had somebody cuss him out.

Speaker 5 So then everybody was like, what's going on? And they're like, what did you get traded or something?

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 5 And they were like, Andrew retired. So we were like, yo, there's no way he retired.
And, you know,

Speaker 5 just talking to Monster Sidelines, then

Speaker 5 find out it was true. And then kind of went to the locker room, kind of went from there.
Damn.

Speaker 1 That's wild. It's just, it's, and it's also one of those stories that's crazy now because it feels like we're at the end of the season and it feels like 10 years ago that that happened.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it feels like that for the Colts locker. It seems like you guys moved on pretty quickly.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, you know, we respected his decision. You know, just seeing all the things he's been through and all the stuff he's done for the coach.

Speaker 5 And when he said he was done, I mean, you know, took my hat to him, and he had a great run. And we felt like Jacoby stepped in.
We trusted Jacoby, came in and did everything he had.

Speaker 5 Did everything he had to do. So we just stood behind him and went from there.

Speaker 1 He played pretty well this year, too.

Speaker 1 I know he was dealing with some injuries and stuff as the season went on, but I actually think that Jacoby Brissette can be a pretty good, like a top 15-star quarterback when he's healthy.

Speaker 1 And I think you guys were like on the the right track to get to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But at some point, I forget, what was, you went on like a little losing streak in the middle of the season. Yeah, that was terrible.
What was the game that kicked that all off?

Speaker 5 Was it Pittsburgh? No, after we lost to Houston.

Speaker 1 That's right, yeah.

Speaker 5 We lost to Houston, and then it kind of went from there.

Speaker 1 It snowballed. So how do you do that? Like, I know you've only been in the league a short time, but in your experience, if things start to snowball and one bad thing stacks on another,

Speaker 1 what's the best way to stop that? To To regain the locker room? Is it like a players-only meeting? We're big fans of the players-only meeting. Yeah, close the doors.

Speaker 5 I mean, yeah, of course we had a players-only meeting, but

Speaker 5 that only goes so far. I mean, you definitely got to go out and see what's going wrong.
And

Speaker 5 you can't go out and just try to fix everything at once. You got to figure out step by step what are we going to get better at and kind of go from there.

Speaker 1 All right, so my last question. We're with Darius Leonard, Pro Bowler, Indianapolis Colts.
It's a seek geek question. Promo code take, put it in, get $10 off.
Want to go to a Colts game next year?

Speaker 1 Maybe they'll have the dome closed. Promo code take, $10 off.
You versus Quentin Nelson, who wins in a fight?

Speaker 5 In a fight? Yeah. Oh, well, me.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, so, yeah, I'm not going to see me.
I'm nice. I'm going to compare that.
You guys are for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you guys are going to be linked forever because same draft class, pro bowlers, both beasts, but you can take them. Yeah, I can take them.

Speaker 1 That's the maniac in you because I don't believe you.

Speaker 1 He is a lot bigger than you. Well, actually, no, he's not that much bigger than you.
Yeah, he's a lot bigger. He's like 320.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a lot bigger.

Speaker 1 But that's the maniac in you. I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 5 That's the thing. You heard that saying it's not the size of a dog.
That's in the fight. But the size of the fight is in a dog.

Speaker 1 Yes. There it is.
There it is. And you're also a big dog, too.

Speaker 1 Put this on note. You want to fight Quentin Nelson.
Oh, I didn't. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought he'd fight the Colts Lot. I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
Well, thanks, dude. This was awesome.
Appreciate it. We're going to start searching the mentions for you.
We'll only have the misspellings. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll let you handle your regular name. We'll handle all the alternates.
Yes.

Speaker 5 All right, cool. Just make sure you get them to me so I can see it.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll get that for you.

Speaker 1 We've got your back now. Yes, sir.
It's part of our service. It only costs you $20,000 a year.
And

Speaker 1 we will search and get them. And I've got the appointment scheduled for your tattoo next week.

Speaker 1 And you have the appointment to drop off the cash tomorrow. Okay, I'll be here tomorrow.
All right, okay, perfect. All right, thanks.
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Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 one thing that Hank and I observed when we were staying in New Orleans for a few hours after you left out, and Hank actually made like $400 at the casino. I know.
Just to bring your chips back.

Speaker 1 Do you want to give me my money? Yeah. Oh, shit.
Sorry, Hank. I don't have my wallet on me right now.
Yeah, the Harrows in

Speaker 1 New Orleans has a really bad cash out line. I just snitched on Hank.
Well, he has an anti-snitching podcast, but we have a really, I actually would have forgotten forever.

Speaker 1 I would have given it to you.

Speaker 1 But a terrible cash out line. So I just walked out on Sunday night with my money, with my chips.
And then, of course, like right as I'm about to get on the plane, I'm like, oh, well, this sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we go back there.

Speaker 4 So you gave me, you had 100 chips, and you said, I'll give you 200 if you cash this, took the 200, put it all in black, hit it. First time ever that's ever happened to me.
That was huge.

Speaker 1 Are you going to now give me the $700? No. Wow.
No, he used that. Well, I mean, but you won with my money.
And then you're.

Speaker 4 Are you about to tell the blackjack story?

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Then we sat down at the blackjack table. This was unbelievable.
I was waiting for Hank because Hank had forgotten his ID to bring to the casino.

Speaker 1 So while I was waiting for him there, as he was taking Uber back to the hotel, I was playing blackjack. I proceeded to lose $200 immediately.
So Hank, you owe me $200.

Speaker 1 And then Hank got back to the casino, sat down down next to me at the blackjack table, gave me $200.

Speaker 1 $50. No, I gave you $50.
Oh, yeah. Sorry, you gave me $50.
I ended up with $200.

Speaker 1 Hank, how much? Did you like triple your money?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I walked in with $0, walked out with like $400.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's pretty good. Hell yeah.
I had five hands going at one time because I split eights five different ways. Hell yeah.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 One thing we noticed walking around New Orleans the day after the game, there are a ton of awesome spin zones going on by Clemson fans walking around town.

Speaker 1 They were all wearing their like 2018 national championship. They beat Duke that night.
Yeah. That sucks for Duke.
College Best. College Fest was a shit show.
It is not. It's a shit show this year.

Speaker 1 It's incredible. It was so strong, though, just wearing like really nice golf shirts that have like Clemson versus Alabama on them.
Right. It's like, we get where you're going.
Yeah, we understand.

Speaker 1 We understand what you're doing here. All right, Fire Fest.
Hank, why don't you start?

Speaker 4 I don't really have a Fire Fest. My Fire Fest was like Tuesday night, Wednesday night.

Speaker 4 We talked about it on the show on Wednesday, though, just like traveling and then having to finish that video on no sleep and just super hungover. That was miserable.

Speaker 4 But now that I'm back in New York City, I'm back with you guys. I got some sleep.
I feel like I'm on top of the world. I feel happy.
So there's no Fire Fest this week for me.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Well, yeah, my Fire Fest of the week is I'm still hungover.
So I am. My Fire Fest is essentially I'm 35.

Speaker 1 Whoa, dude, don't do that to us. I'm saying my liver is

Speaker 1 right now. Don't do that to us.
It's a hangover that has now lasted three days.

Speaker 1 I'm just starting now to feel like a normal person so i feel like i might do dry january for night until we get to miami well like a week a week and a half

Speaker 1 i did the thing where i had so much fun on sunday and monday night i was like man i need to just start like going out more like that was fun i forgot how much fun it was and then tuesday wednesday and thursday hit and i was like oh yeah Fuck that.

Speaker 1 Yep. Never doing that again.
I was getting the sweats. I was panicking inside.

Speaker 1 I was just so anxious the entire.

Speaker 1 There's no more of a I'm never drinking again moment than waking up on Wednesday and like finding yourself in an NCAA investigation and being on a football field, having to kick field goals.

Speaker 1 That's pretty bad. These are bad places that I've gotten myself into.
That's pretty bad. So I'm never drinking again until we get to Miami for the Super Bowl.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a good time, though. All right, my Fire Fest is, I have two of them actually.
One is Hank. Do you remember this? You probably do too, PFD.
You were a couple sections away from us.

Speaker 1 On Monday night, there was an SEC chant, and I didn't fucking get video.

Speaker 1 After LSU won, there wasn't. Do you remember that, Hank? Nope.
Oh, fuck. There was an SEC chant.
They were chanting SEC, SEC. It's pretty much

Speaker 1 everything I've been saying forever, and I didn't capture it. They were probably just calling the Security Exchange Commission on Odell Beckham for handing out illegal checks.
Get it going. All right.

Speaker 1 My other Fire Fest is I'm chasing another high. I'm chasing a big-time high.
I was at the airport, and a Secret Service member came up to me and was like, hey, big cat, huge fan.

Speaker 1 Listen all the time to the podcast. Can I get a picture? I was like, yeah, for sure.
He handed me this pin. This Liam was there.
He handed me a pin that was like a special Secret Service pin.

Speaker 1 And so I took it and I was like, this is awesome. You're being monitored.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 I then was sitting down and I struck up a conversation with the Clemson fan and his young son, like maybe eight years old. And I felt kind of bad.

Speaker 1 So after I, as I was leaving, I was like, hey, kid, Secret Service, hand him the pin. And he looked at me like, holy shit, this guy's such a badass.

Speaker 1 That was your Mean Joe Green moment? So I'm now. Yeah.
You throw the pin at the kid, it sticks in his eye. I'm chasing the high of having little kids think I'm a Secret Service member.

Speaker 1 Well, what you actually did was you put that child under surveillance because that Secret Service member was definitely trying to get some intel on you. Shout out the guy, though.

Speaker 1 If he's listening to this right now, I'm sorry, but I had to. It was a moment that I could not pass up having a little kid think that I'm a Secret Service member and being like, look at this.

Speaker 1 So you stole Valor from the Secret Service. Well, is that stolen valor if he gave it to me? Well, if the kid was under the impression that you were indeed in the Secret Service.

Speaker 1 I didn't say one thing or another. I said, hey, kid, have this

Speaker 1 pin.

Speaker 1 It's up to the kid what he thinks about you. Right.

Speaker 1 I didn't say, hey, man, just got back from, you know,

Speaker 1 just walking the president around at the Superdome. Why don't you have this pin? No, I said, hey, kid, have this pin.
Just know that the NSA now has eyes on that kid.

Speaker 1 And I think I heard him whisper as I was walking around. He's like, daddy, there goes that hero.
And I walked back and I winked. And that was kind of creepy.
But you know who the real heroes are?

Speaker 1 Your father and the police and paramedics, first responders,

Speaker 1 teachers,

Speaker 1 Marlin's man.

Speaker 1 You know the drug. We haven't talked about that, by the way.
Marlin's Man is definitely going to play a big part of Super Bowl week. I don't want him to.
You think he's going around?

Speaker 1 No, we should do. He's going to treat it like it is.
He's probably hosting Super Bowl. Yeah, he is hosting Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We should go see the Cats.

Speaker 1 God damn it, Hank. Why did you say that? The Cats are incredible.
Definitely go see the Cats. We should also flood the street with Marlinsmen.

Speaker 1 Just bring a shitload of orange jerseys and visors to hand out. Hank, you got them walking already.
We got to go see the cats. We have to go see the cats.
God damn it. Those cats are so fucking big.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up, we have this league.
Our guy, Brooks Kepka, just dunking on Bryson D.Chambeau because Bryson DeChambeau said that Brooks doesn't have a six-pack or isn't like ripped.

Speaker 1 He's like, I have a six-pack.

Speaker 1 And Brooks then tweeted a picture saying, yeah,

Speaker 1 I have two, was it four shy of a six-pack? And it was just two huge trophies. Two cups shy of a six-pack.
It was just four majors.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, it was just four majors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was two big trophies, and then the other two were majors as well.
So fuck you, Bryson D. Chambeau.
Yeah, that's all I got. Bryson D.

Speaker 1 Chambly. Well, yeah, I thought it was.

Speaker 1 They're the same person. They carry the same energy.
They're both anti-Brooks guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out Brooks Brooks Kapka, who's a friend of the program, for keeping it very easy for us to know who your enemies are and who we need to dunk on. They all have a lot of C's, H's,

Speaker 1 Deschamblas, M's, somewhere around there.

Speaker 1 If I see a Deschambla, I'm fucking dunking on them. They've got all the worst consonants in their names.
Yeah. Brooks keeps it simple.
Brooks. Yeah.
He's just, maybe he has like a phobia.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's an unknown phobia. He just starts fights with people whose names sound like vaguely French.
Yeah, sham.

Speaker 1 I'm not not opposed to that. Yeah.
Easy opponents. Either way, Brooks won that one fair and square, easily.

Speaker 1 You can't chirp Brooks about his body if he dominates you in golf, idiot. Count the rings, bitch.
Yeah. Do you get a ring in golf? You should.

Speaker 1 We should make him some. We should make him some.
Yeah, make him rings for everyone.

Speaker 1 Next time Brooks comes on, let's have four rings ready to go. He could just take a picture with one finger through each strap of the trophies.
Hold them up.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen a waitress during Oktoberfest carry 20 beers on each hand? Yep. He could probably have all four trophies in one hand.
Just take one selfie.

Speaker 1 Also, Brooks is looking pretty jacked because he just had, you know, he had knee surgery. Right.
He's ready to go. Well, also, who cares if he doesn't have a six-pack on his abs? He's a bulky.

Speaker 1 It's a try-hard move. Yeah, it's a try-hard move.
You have to diet for that. He could if he wanted to.

Speaker 1 You have to stop eating protein sometimes because you're trying to cut weight. Brooks is trying to add mass.
Right.

Speaker 1 And if he does that, then we got the other fucking asshole, DeShambla or Shambly Tramblis. Right.
And he's like, Brooks is too skinny. So you decide, guys.

Speaker 1 Brooks can't win. Well, he can win.
He wins four times. How dare you body shame? Yeah.
So how is this any different than Jillian Michaels or whoever it was

Speaker 1 telling Lizzo

Speaker 1 that one day you're going to get diabetes, making fun of Brooks' stomach? Yeah, that's absolutely true. It's really true.
It's really just sad that we live in this seven age.

Speaker 1 I think Brooks' body's great, whether he's got a six-pack or a 12-pack or a zero-pack. You know what I like? I like Brooks' personality.
And his brain. And his golf game.

Speaker 1 And his shoes. And his four times a year.
Size 12, Brooks. You never send me any.
He always flexes with his shoes, and then I just reply on Instagram. And his new logo.

Speaker 1 Size 12 is done. His new logo is much better.
Much better. Yeah.
Way better than the one before, which is not saying much because the one before was the worst logo of all time.

Speaker 1 What a tryhard this DeShamblau is because he's rocking.

Speaker 1 He's the guy that wears the scally cap out there. Gee, that's him? Yeah, that should have been retired with Payne Stewart.
Get out of here. That was his look.
Get out of here. That guy stinks.

Speaker 1 I hate him.

Speaker 1 We're going to just eventually just hate everyone on the PGA tour except Brooks. And I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 That's actually a great spot to be in.

Speaker 1 All right. Last up before we get to FAQs, there's a fight this weekend.
That's all I got. Conor McGregor.
Who do you got? Connor versus Cowboy. I'm going to go with Connor.

Speaker 1 This is.

Speaker 4 Must win or can't lose for McGregor.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's because of McGregor's all the shit that he's done and he's not really a great guy.

Speaker 1 He hasn't been able to do a lot of interviews. It feels like there's no hype for this fight.
And it's weird because if Connor McGregor loses his fight, he's done.

Speaker 4 If he loses his fight, he's done. But if he wins this fight, cuts an electric promo, he's back.

Speaker 1 He's back.

Speaker 4 So it's a must be a

Speaker 1 swim, who I think were Team Masvedol, will kick the fuck out of

Speaker 1 Conor McGregor. Definitely.
I don't know. He'll put him in the shadow realm.

Speaker 1 You want to go in the shadow realm? No, but I'll put you in the fucking shadow realm.

Speaker 4 He already hates me, so why should I be rooting for him if he already thinks I'm a bad guy?

Speaker 1 Well, because you want to get out of the shadow. Want to double down? I think so.
Yeah. Might as well.
You guys double back.

Speaker 4 You guys seward me, so I might as well ride with McGregor.

Speaker 1 But if you come out of the shadow realm, you come come out a better person. I like McGregor.
Okay. Let's do FAQs.
Let's finish up with FAQs.

Speaker 4 All right, so this is FAQ. This is a PFT XFL-centric FAQ.
But before we get to those questions, this is just a question AWL sent.

Speaker 4 There are 328 million people in the United States, but only 98 million watch the Super Bowl. How are there people that aren't watching the Super Bowl? I hope you guys can get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 1 People that don't watch the Super Bowl, they're liars. A lot of people are just liars.
They're going to parties. Ooh.
There's a way that they judge that.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that they do it correctly, but they claim they can account for people in bars and at parties. Got it.
But that's bullshit. Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 there's some people who probably forget that the Super Bowl's on. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's so weird to think.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 Call out to AWLs. Let's find a person who has never watched a Super Bowl.
I want to interview him in February. I want to ask them what's going on.
Like, what's in your brain? You've never watched.

Speaker 1 I want to find someone who has never watched a Super Bowl. You know what? I've never been asked if I watched the Super Bowl.
So, how accurate can this poll be?

Speaker 1 No, but I'm sure someone knows someone who's like, yeah, they've never watched the Super Bowl. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, like, you don't have to work.
I agree with you. We should do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying I don't trust this poll's numbers because nobody has ever personally asked me, like, hey, did you watch the Super Bowl? Right.
So I'm not part of the statistic. Are you?

Speaker 1 Nielsen.

Speaker 1 I don't have a Nielsen box. How do you know? Because you know.

Speaker 1 They tell you.

Speaker 4 The only other question, non-XFL question, is what are the crews all-time favorite video games

Speaker 1 Donkey Con Country was awesome Goldeneye and NBA Jam all right Mario Party 2 NBA Jam Halo 3

Speaker 1 Madden NHL

Speaker 1 you were a big NHL guy NHL 11 yeah that's how I learned the rules of hockey

Speaker 1 what was the Call of Duty Call of Duty the old World War II when it's World War II I love Call of Duty Grand Theft Auto and Vice City Grand Theft Auto Why can't I think of the name of the video game where they just race around?

Speaker 1 Mario. Cruising USA.
Mario Kart. Cruising USA was awesome.
It's pretty good. Mario Kart.
Mario Kart. Big time Mario Kart guy.
Fuck. Oh, and Cool Borders.
Shout out Cool Borders. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Paper Boys. Did you ever play that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the rest of the questions are about PFT's. Battlefrogs, hardest game ever.
Which we haven't talked about on the show, but PFT.

Speaker 4 How would you say your review of your trial went?

Speaker 1 I'd say it went good, not great. So there's a window.
There's a window that I can make the team. And I've got maybe a little ace in the hole that I can bring out to tell coach about.

Speaker 1 But Pep was there while I kicked. He told me you did a good job.
You surprised me. I'm getting that a lot actually from people that were there.
Oh, that's the worst.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm shocked that you were not totally incompetent.

Speaker 1 Taller than I thought you would be. Nobody, literally, no one said that.
Oh, shit. Because everyone else on the team is huge.
Yeah, there was a couple pictures. It was not.
Okay, first things first.

Speaker 1 I noticed Big Cat very helpfully retweeted

Speaker 1 the picture of

Speaker 1 the punter slash holder. That That person asked me to delete it, and so I deleted it.
You clicked the wrong button. You actually clicked the retweet button on it.

Speaker 1 But that was a bad issue for me because the punter/slash holder slash other kicker on the team, he's like six foot four and a half. So when he stands up after I kick it, it makes me look pretty bad.

Speaker 1 You looked good. I mean, your goggles were so goddamn funny, and that one picture was iconic.
So even if it doesn't lead to you making a team, I feel like the pictures and the video are worth it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, we'll be putting the video out early next week. But overall, I'd say it.

Speaker 4 Well, you find out on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Mr. 35.

Speaker 1 Mr. 35 yards.

Speaker 1 I'll say that I did

Speaker 1 not as good as I could have, but I didn't do as bad as I was fearing that I was going to do it. Okay.
That's a win. You'll have to see

Speaker 1 the full video next week.

Speaker 4 PFT, who do you think is more likely to kick a 35-yard field goal, Hank or Big Cat?

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 4 I feel like we could start at 35 and it would take us until like the the 20 for one of us to hit one.

Speaker 1 I would either make the first one or miss like 20 in a row and never have a chance.

Speaker 4 I would tow it.

Speaker 1 So whatever, whatever chance it is. So if you tow it, you have a pretty good chance.
I'd probably tow it too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd say that

Speaker 1 you guys would both make them on your first time. Dude would suck.

Speaker 4 Sup, boys, especially future Hall of Famer PFT, if your coach calls a fake field goal and you successfully convert, what would be your go-to celebration?

Speaker 1 The Dougie. No one Dougies anymore.
You remember that one? Yeah, if you got blown up, I'm not. Listen, it wasn't me who said this.
It was someone who we work with.

Speaker 1 Ron said it'd be very funny if I got paired. Caleb said he wanted to get paralyzed.

Speaker 1 He said that.

Speaker 4 Like nine seconds.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Man, that was almost really hilarious.

Speaker 1 Again, I didn't say I wanted you paralyzed. I said I wanted you.
Big cat just broke a chair. I wanted

Speaker 1 a hot seat, Slim Cat. I wanted.
The wheel broke off. You broke the wheel off the chair.
It just came off.

Speaker 1 This fucking office is is a shit shit. It fell off, Pete.

Speaker 1 It's unbroken.

Speaker 1 Listen, if I scramble for a first down, get lit up and hold on to the ball, my celebration is just going to be looking around for David Baker from the Hall of Fame to immediately induct me.

Speaker 1 I do not want you to get paralyzed. I said that on the record.
I said it would be funny, though, if you got stretchered off and could give the thumbs up.

Speaker 1 I would do thumbs down.

Speaker 1 Maybe a dab and then break your neck.

Speaker 4 Why don't kickers just juggle the football like like a soccer player until you get closer to the field goal?

Speaker 1 Does this person not know how...

Speaker 1 There's a defense on the field, which...

Speaker 4 You could kick it up, run around,

Speaker 1 catch it, and then...

Speaker 1 If you had the world's... No, I think once you kick it, you can't advance it.
Right. The kicking team is not advanced.
I don't think you can just kick it from like... It's not rugby.

Speaker 1 You can't kick it from past the line of skills.

Speaker 4 Maybe if it's like if it doesn't hit the ground type situation.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think that you can catch it. It's not a punt.
So I guess it might actually kick.

Speaker 4 But when you kick it, you catch it with

Speaker 1 your foot. Like you juggle it like a soccer ball.
I don't think you can double kick.

Speaker 4 XFL should change that rule.

Speaker 1 That double kicks are allowed.

Speaker 4 What is usually said in the studio immediately after PFT says, love you guys? The microphones go off and the episode ends, question mark.

Speaker 1 He says, not.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I say that. No, occasionally I say that.
I say, good show, or what are we doing for dinner? Or fuck, I can't believe I lost this.

Speaker 4 We actually just don't say it.

Speaker 4 We only talk when you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we never talk. We're like,

Speaker 1 Mike and Mike at the end.

Speaker 1 Mike and Mike at the end. By the way,

Speaker 1 are we now the new Mike and Mike? Because I'm a professional athlete and you're just some nerd from Chicago. Yeah, that's it.
There it is. Although I'm a professional athlete, too.
How?

Speaker 1 Because I got a contract for a minor league baseball team.

Speaker 1 I played in a basketball tournament where people got paid. So I've been a pro athlete for a while.
Professional football player. And also I'm a professional eater.

Speaker 1 So I've been in the professional arena. I'm happy you've joined.
Well, a professional football player is a little bit different. Yeah, no, no, that's true.

Speaker 1 I'm a pro-football guy, and now you're a football player. I'm a two-sport athlete.
That's right. I'm a three-sport athlete.
I'm Dion.

Speaker 4 All right, last question.

Speaker 4 Hey, guys, I was wondering... Could PFT out-kick Jay-Feely now if they were both wearing suits and reporting on the sideline and immediately got called in to start kicking field goals?

Speaker 1 Definitely. Yes.
Absolutely. Jay Feely is a fucking loser.
He needs his two little weird gloves to be able to kick. I don't need that shit.
Yeah, he doesn't play video games. He plays real life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all the time. Work raw dog.
No glove, no love. You'd fuck Jay Feely up.
I absolutely would. And consider that a challenge.
Yes, this is me absolutely saying it to Jay Feely's face. Right.

Speaker 1 And if Jay Feely, you somehow do beat PFT, which is not going to happen,

Speaker 1 it immediately becomes a fist fight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It then goes to that. That's fine.
Let me say, I think that there is actually like a 50% chance that I do get an XFL contract, that I am signed to the XFL.

Speaker 1 I'm going to find out on Wednesday night and be able to report on Thursday morning what happened. Let me just say, I'm going to donate my entire salary to charity.
Nice. If I am signed.

Speaker 1 I am donating to

Speaker 1 charity.

Speaker 1 The children's hospital.

Speaker 1 The one in Iowa?

Speaker 1 A children's hospital. I'm going to donate to a children.
Can we... The one in Iowa.

Speaker 1 We can find a good children's hospital to donate to. So, balls in your court, XFL.

Speaker 1 If you want money to go to a children's hospital,

Speaker 1 I think it's pretty clear what needs to be done here. I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 1 I'll match it. How much are you going to get paid? I don't know.
I'll match PFT's donation up to $50 to the children's hospital. That's very good.
So now it's, look at that.

Speaker 1 We've got a matching program. Hank, are you going to match?

Speaker 4 Yes. And I'll give Big Cat $450.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Should your winnings go to the children's? I won't make you do that. I mean, should his winnings? Let's not get out of here.
I don't have winnings anymore.

Speaker 1 But the point remains, we are donating, as a podcast, we are donating my entire salary to the children's hospital. Right.

Speaker 1 Which one? The one in Iowa? The one in Iowa that they wave to.

Speaker 1 That way you can live on forever. When they wave to it, you're like, well, you know who the real hero is.
I'm not going to say that.

Speaker 1 I will let other people. Oh, you know what we should pay? He'll match.

Speaker 1 He'll match. If I do make the XFL, we should pay for Marlins Man to go to every game and sit directly.
I don't have to pay. We don't just have to ask him.
I definitely know.

Speaker 1 Sit directly in the middle of the uprights. And

Speaker 1 he'd be on TV? Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, we don't have to pay.
I'm going to aim for him for Marlin's Man in the stands. Yes.
That is my guiding beacon. He should hold a big hit it here PFT.

Speaker 1 I think he'll stand out and up. And it's no, but it's hit it here, PFT, and it's his face through the sign.

Speaker 1 So you can hit him right.

Speaker 1 I'll know where he's sitting and make sure that my mom is on the opposite side of the table.

Speaker 1 If you hit Marlin's Man directly in the face with a field goal at an XFL game, I will donate $1,000 to the Iowa Children's Hospital. Now we're getting up there.
Now we're doing it. Now we're doing it.

Speaker 1 35 yards. Yeah.
Saving lives. Also, there's a little fine print there.
You'll find out on Monday's show with Von Miller. $1,000.
Love you

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Speaker 1 not again.

Speaker 1 Talking away.

Speaker 1 I'll change anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's not

Speaker 1 the day to finally

Speaker 1 shine away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been coming for your love on your dream.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

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Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm all designed

Speaker 1 by east to a little way

Speaker 1 Turin life and just a faith.

Speaker 1 Say after me,

Speaker 1 it's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's no better to be safe than sorry.

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Speaker 1 gone.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 I'll keep

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Speaker 1 the victory of killing