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On today's part of my take, we are live from New Orleans for the National Championship game. The Big Easy.
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We have Stanford Steve, our good friend who stopped by.

He knows more college football than anyone in America.

He tells us how Monday night's game is going to go.

But before we do that, we have to recap all of the weekend.

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and they will hook up some people who had some bad beats. Today is Monday, January 13th, divisional round.
They're not gonna get them. In the big bell bottom, home of the catch, Jimmy Jimmy Cocoa Puff, Jimmy Jimmy Yeah, led the 49ers against the NFC Norse Minnesota Vikings.
Tevin, I'm a cold man, ran for 105 in two scores as Kendrick Bourne Identity sniped another score for the Niners offense. DeForest Bill Buckner had big balls between his legs and Nick Cannon-Bosa was wilding out as the Vikings O-line hung their quarterback out to dry more than a high-profile inmate at the Manhattan Correctional Facility.
Cue the sex boats, Fred Smoot, because the Vikings will be home for another long, cold winter. Niners 27, Vikings 10.
Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Some spread.
In Baltimore, it was the Derrick Henry show yet again. Track door seat-o.
He's in his bag like ranch Doritos. Get under his skin like he's mosquito.
Make Coach Frabel cut off his pee hole. Track door seat-o.
The Baltimore Ravens hit the lights and said, let's get Lamarded in here. But wide receiver Snead was more like, will.N.T.
Marlins man Humphrey made a spectacle out of himself

after the game, calling his own team

chokers. I love when girls wear chokers,

Boom. Terrell Casey Anthony got

away with murder, but still ended up looking

hot as he sacked Lamar Jackson from

from from the

University of Louisville.

Hey, hey, get Darren Raval out of here

before he makes someone kill themselves.

Titans 28, Ravens 12.

Some spread. In Kansas City, a wild one broke out as the Texans got off to a 24-0 lead.
And surely Bill O'Brien won't blow this one, Teej. Sherlock Patrick Mahomes and his assistant Deshaun Watson were trying to solve a mystery of which team was going to choke harder.
Travis Scott Kelsey went dick-o-mode,

dipping his big old balls into Bill O'Brien's teacup chair. We're trying to solve a mystery of which team is going to choke harder.
Travis Scott Kelsey went dick-o mode,

dipping his big old balls into Bill O'Brien's teacup chin.

The stadium ran out of Mrs. Doubt fireworks

after Damian Robin Williams took a laughable stand-up piss on the Texans' defense.

Throw the Texans' second-half performance in the Astros' trash can

because this season is over.

Chiefs 51, Texans 31. Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? We finish in the frozen tundra.
We're in a touching tribute to my good friend, Neil Peart. The Packers emphasized the need for a strong rushing performance.
Devontae Adams-Sandler and Aaron Sloppy-Jones, Slop-Slappy-Jones, had Marshawn Lynch-Ladyland singing a different tune. Pleat Carroll folded like a cheap pair of khakis, punting the ball away to Aaron Rodgers.
And as the old saying goes, it's hard to beat the Packers and the refs in Lambeau Field. Packers 28, the Seattle Seahawks 23.
All right. Divisional round in the books.
Holy shit, what a wild weekend. We had upsets.
We had maybe the craziest game ever between the Chiefs and Texans just in terms of scoreboard. I mean, that was a crazy game.
It was very crazy. Hank, they were down by 24 points.

Name another comeback.

That's as impressive as that.

24 points is as good as it gets.

PFT didn't finish.

Where the team won by 20.

Can't think of one.

Crazy.

It's a big swing.

All right, so we're going to start, though, with the first game of the weekend.

By the way, we are in New Orleans.

Welcome to New Orleans, boys.

We're in the hotel room right now.

We did not build a tent this time.

Nope. So I think that there was probably not.
There wasn't enough echo to necessitate construction of a fort. Yes.
So, yeah, we're just raw-dogging it in the hotel room right now. We're just hanging out.
We have Stanford Steve coming up. He came and joined us.
He knows everything about college football. He's going to give you some winners for tonight's huge game.
We'll be at the game. Come say hello, but probably not because it's like a crazy expensive ticket.
So it's really hard to get into. Yeah, not to brag.
Yeah. Shout out SeatGeek, though, for looking us up.
Also, I know that I said a couple weeks ago is quitting smoking, but we also said in that podcast, not counting New Orleans. So I'm allowed to smoke this week.
Okay, so we're allowed to smoke. We'll see everyone out there.
Come say hello for real. Maybe we'll tweet where we're at tomorrow.
If any AWLs are in New Orleans, we'd love to say hi. Niners Vikings.
Let's first do something PFT. Let's get something out in the open here on the table.
I was worried about the Vikings. Well, that too.
Okay. I was going to say I don't think this was all Kirk Cousins' fault.
I'm not going to sit here and do the lazy Kirk Cousins stinks. He can never win a big game.
He wasn't good, but his offensive line was worse, and I'm not going to put all the blame on Kirk Cousins. That's big, right? Well, it's a good thing that there are two people on this podcast because I am going to do that.
So it would be a little good cop, bad cop. Now, you weren't going to say that Kirk Cousins can't win a big game and he can't deliver when he's the only part of that offense that needs to click.
I'm not going to say, you're not going to say, excuse me, that the offense got too conservative because you don't trust Kirk cousins to be the quarterback of your team. Well, okay.
So to me, this game was way more about the Niners defense, right? Cousins screwing up Royally. He had no time.
He got sacked six times. There was no one open.
And you know what? If anything, if you saw Richard Sherman after the game, he said that Kirk Cousins throws a very catchable ball. He complimented him.
He said, thank you for that, Kirk. The interception that I had was extremely easy, and.
And the ball just stuck in my hands because you throw a tight spiral. Okay, so.
That's why James Winston, it's actually a good sign that he throws so many interceptions. Because cornerbacks suck at catching the football.
It has to be like a perfect spiral for them to catch it. This is though Kirk Cousins, like, you know, we always try to not rate Kirk Cousins, but like, oh, is he good? Is he bad? He plays good sometimes.
Is he R-A-T-E? Rate. Okay, yeah.
Yeah, we try to rate Kirk Cousins, but like, oh, is he good? Is he bad? He plays good sometimes. Is he bad? You say R-A-T-E? Rate.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. We try to rate Kirk Cousins.
But he falls into the classic, like, he's a quarterback who's good if everything else is perfect and their O-line is not perfect. Right.
And they got eaten alive. And the Niners defensive line, if you're able to get pressure using four people on any quarterback in the NFL, that's huge.
Correct. You can beat a lot of really, really good teams by doing that.
Not to brag, but we called that with Warren Sharp when we said the Niners are not going to have to blitz much and they can still beat the fuck out of the Vikings, and that's exactly what happened. It's interesting because this was a chess match between, what's his name, Stefanski, the new coach of the Browns.
Yes. It was between Stefanskiki on offense he was a coordinator for the Vikings and then Salah the defensive coordinator for the Niners and the loser has to coach the Browns as punishment yeah that's great that the Browns right well you know I was reading reports and it was like Jimmy Haslam wanted his coach now he didn't want to wait till after the Super Bowl I was like okay that's fine that's fine.
But the two coaches you were deciding between went head-to-head, their units head-to-head on Saturday, and the Niners defense won in deciding fashion. Like, easily kicked the fuck out of the Vikings.
And again, the Vikings' offensive line is very bad, but that wasn't even close. Listen, when you're the Cleveland Browns, you can't afford to give up two more weeks it's true to wait to hire the right coach to recruit it's a win now the browns franchise is built around immediate success well and not only that but like when you have the institutional foundation of the browns you need to make sure that you turn the page as quickly as possible because now that stefanski is the head coach of the browns the clock is ticking of when should we fire him? Right.
You need to start that right now. Yeah.
After the second game against the Steelers. Yeah.
You cannot wait much longer. Okay.
So the other part of this game, I actually credit to Kyle Shanahan. Not only, I think he's, I think his logo is getting smaller on his hat.
Definitely. I think he's doing that to fuck with everyone.
And it's hilarious. We're onto you.
Cause like, it it gets smaller and smaller until if he's in the Super Bowl, it's just going to be like a small miniature logo. A dot.
Yeah, right in the middle of his red hat. It's going to be just a QR code that you have to scan with your phone on the TV and then it'll take you to the 49ers logo on Google Images.
Which you can purchase. Yes.
Yeah. So he basically, the start of the game, Jimmy G was first career playoff start, looks a little shaky, and he's like, hey, you know what I'm not going to do? Let Jimmy G in his first career playoff game, which of course he's not going to look like a seasoned pro, and he wasn't bad.
He had that one bad interception. He's like, I'm just going to pound the rock and beat the fuck out of them with the run game, and that's exactly what he did in front of Mike Shanahan, who was sitting there ear to ear in his luxury suite being like, this is awesome.
My son has done it. Yeah.
Shanahan looked so, so happy between him and Mike Zimmer. It was like the battle of whose face looks more like leather.
And Mike Shanahan looks really good for an old, tan, leathery man. Yes.
He looks better than he's looked in the last several years. I think he's very proud of Kyle not choking away a Super Bowl in the last couple years.
But Kyle's play calling was really good in this game. I agree with you 100%.
The Vikings, they just got really conservative with it. It's like they coached scared from an offensive standpoint, and it allowed the 49ers defensive line to pin their ears back, which is probably my favorite piece of analysis saying these guys are going to pin their ears back right now go after and get after the quarterback and there was nothing that the that the line could do once they fall behind and they're in obvious passing situations they were shit out of luck yeah and that's going to be a theme for the whole weekend i feel like we we can point to pretty much every coach in the losing side and be like you got you kind of turtle a little bit you turtle a little bit you took chances where it's like you should have you should have stepped on tried to step on their throat all the vikings didn't have a chance to step on their throat but you have like to win a playoff game on the road especially as a pretty big underdog which a lot of these teams were you have to play flawless and you have to take those one or two chances where it's like yeah you know what we're gonna try to fuck them up right now and not worry about the repercussions and the vikings that situation never like got there but i agree with you it was a conservative game plan and mike zimmer i don't know vikings are so weird they're just gonna do this again next year and there'll be a moment during the season where everyone be like watch out for the vikings they might win a playoff game and eventually they're gonna get exactly where they are every single time with k Right.
This is their ceiling. Yeah.
And it's a pretty good ceiling. I mean, you made the division round of the playoffs.
You won a road playoff game in New Orleans, which is difficult to do in the Dome. Like, that's a pretty good season, all in all, for Vikings fans.
Yes. Right? You should be happy with this kind of.
A special shout-out before we go to the next game. I love the Niners' colors and all the throwback clips they can use for the Niners.
Yes. Big history guy.
Love whenever they bring that up. I mean, it kind of sucks that Candlestick is just an empty lot now.
He's like, come on. Why can't that be? They have to go all the way to Santa Clara.
But even the end zones, like next week when it's Packers 49ers is going to be like, damn, this is the 90s.

Like it's great to see those colors in prime time in big games.

The end zones are awesome.

The old saloon letterings.

Yeah.

The saloon.

Fucking love it.

I like it when they use a lot of the gold from the 49ers color scheme.

Those old starter jackets that were just like mostly gold, shiny, reflective.

Yeah.

Sick as hell.

Get Bob Weir out there to do the national anthem. Let's do the whole fucking get john candy to stand in the front row wherever john get his body in the front row he's a hero of mine uh at the 50 yard line jimmy g be like oh is that john candy yes and jimmy g looking hot as ever yeah that's true are we gonna have we're to have...
We're going to have a pretty hot lineup of coaches

in the NFC Championship game. Matt LaFleur and Kyle Shanahan.
Yeah. Pretty hot.
Although some would say Andy Reid, Mike Vrabel. The hottest.
Way hotter. Way, way hotter.
Those guys just... Instead of a handshake, they're just going to bump each other's bellies.
Those are men with a capital M.

All right.

Next game.

The Shocker.

The Shocker.

Two in the pink.

One in the stick.

What, Hank?

What were you going to say?

Were you going to say something?

Ravens are, fill in the blank.

The Ravens are.

They're not the F word.

They're not the F word.

But what we're seeing here, and I believe I called this about a month and a half ago Lamar Jackson's a very good quarterback right he's played he played really well he's the MVP of the league this year but I said what we're going to see if they lose their first playoff game this year we're going to start to see the narrative unfold which is he can't win it he's um he's Justin he's uh he's Lam lamustin jack lander wait is what many people are calling him is it a narrative when your own team when your own player says it marlon humphrey said we are chokers right yeah like that the ravens i listen i'm not gonna sit here and be like wow i should have trusted my gut when i said they were frauds because they're not they won 14 games they were the best team in the regular season they have the MVP all that but holy shit was that a fucking inexcusable loss at home where they just looked terrible and I know Lamar Jackson had a million yards but I actually don't blame it all on him because it felt like the Ravens panicked when they went down and like how many times are they going to run empty backfield when all season long they were fucking everyone up? That's the stupidest thing you could ever do. Lamar Jackson ran the ball 20 times.
He threw it 59 times. It's the stupidest thing you've ever done.
It was crazy. To take your quarterback who's uniquely talented at being a dual threat and then eliminate the entire possibility that he's going to carry the ball and run with it.
And now we shouldn't like, I'm not, we're burying the lead because the Titans played a perfect game. Correct.
Their defensive plan was so perfect. They're basically like the one thing Lamar Jackson struggles with is throwing it out outside the hash marks and they made him do it all night.
And they made him like when he ran, it wasn't going to be for huge, huge yards. They made him stand in the pocket a lot of the time and throw the ball.
That was a perfect game plan, and they did the fucking Bill Cower, which I love. Whenever you get the ball past the 50-yard line, throw that fucking deep pass.
Usually Bill Cower would have, like, Hines Ward throw it or... Which one, Randall, would throw it to Hines Ward, yeah.
But when the Ravens had that fourth and one they get stopped on the fourth and one and then they immediately turn around the Titans throat deep with air Tannehill who now has I think those were all his yards yesterday. Yeah, he has a total of what 160 yards total in two playoff wins but guess what it doesn't matter because the greatest thing we ever did was three months ago becoming a tractor cedo podcast and that guy i'm running out of things to say about him because he is so fucking good he's so goddamn good and he's so hard to tackle and it's like it he also doesn't seem to get tired when they were giving the ball like 40 like in his high school career there were several games where they give him the ball 50 times in a game they could give him the ball.
How many rushing temps did he have? Like 30? Yeah. He never seems to get tired.
He just looks at everyone else. He's like, I know however tired I am, the other guys are going to be twice as tired because they have to try to tackle me.
He has 64 carries for 377 yards in the two playoff games. That's a lot.
It's insane. He's the first player ever to average over 180 yards in their first two playoff games.
Yeah. The knock against him is sometimes he makes the difficult throw though.
He doesn't take the open receiver. So he had to jump past touchdown.
Marcus Mariota was wide open. Pity package.
If you're going to use him in the pity package, you could at least throw him the ball if there's nobody covering him. It'd be nice.
It'd be a nice thing to do because that way he feels like he's part of this. And then after the game, did you see Vrabel dapping everybody up? Yes.
And the very sad dap that he gave to Mariota? Yes. It's like, hey, I know this isn't ideal for anyone.
Yeah. It's kind of awkward.
Tannehill isn't really doing – like, Tannehill's been phenomenal in the regular season. He hasn't – he's doing just enough.
He's doing – he's doing the Terry Bradshaw. He's just throwing it just enough yards to win Super Bowls.
I love the Titans because it gives hope for everyone out there who doesn't have a franchise quarterback and can do the dumb brain, old school meatball. All we need to do is run the ball and play defense.
Because all we've heard about the last five years is it's a quarterback's league, Sean McVay all these guys like the young guys everyone had a beer with sean mcveigh as a head coach they're airing it out everyone's gonna throw for fucking 60 touchdowns and then the titans come in and win two road playoff games throwing for 160 yards and just running it right down your fucking dick hole yeah no it's awesome like i'm pumped up just saying it right right now. Running backs are back.
That's going to be the next take that we have. Are we seeing the pendulum swing? Because there's one really outstanding running back, Derek Henry.
We're going to see some general manager draft a running back in the top five. I said that during the game.
I was like, have the Titans revolutionized offensive football by having a 240-pound guy run a 4-5-40? You're going to see the Bengals seriously consider drafting a huge fat, like an actual overweight running back. Brandon Jacobs is coming back in the league.
Yeah, is this almost like a Derrick Henry type guy that you might see out there? No, Tractor Cito is one of a kind. He's one of a kind.
He's not an assembly line tractor. He was handcrafted by someone's sweaty dad in their garage.
This is a one-of-a-kind dude isn't it great to like it's one of those things i i'm trying to think about like uh it doesn't happen in basketball anymore because basketball the three-pointers like it used to be you know if you just get in the post you can man you can man up a team and like take them down uh in in uh hockey you know if you get that hot goalie in in baseball starting pitching If you have that ace starting pitcher, they can just shut down the other team. It's nice that in football you can still be like, hey, if you have a run game.
And again, there's no run game like Derrick Henry's run game. But if you have a run game like this, you can still beat anyone.
I saw a stat, PFT, by the way, which is crazy. You ready for this? Yeah.
This is a stat that basically says scoring points is bad, and you should actually be bad on offense, which means Mitch Trubisky actually, Sneaky is a franchise quarterback. The 12 highest scoring teams in NFL history have zero championships.
There you go. Zero.
That's good enough for me. Zero championships.
zero championships scoring points is bad you do not want to score points a couple reasons why you think the saints 2009 the saints 2009 are uh no they weren't one of the top 12 so here are the top 12 teams all time 2013 broncos they lost the seahawks for Super Bowl 2007 Patriots that's the 16-0 team

Kansas City last year Green Bay in 2011 when they went 15-1 Patriots in 2012 Minnesota the famous Randy Moss and Chris Carter year when they went 15-1 and lost Morton Anderson yep the Saints in 2011, the Skins in

1983, the Falcons

when they lost to the Patriots,

the Rams' greatest show on turf when the Patriots beat them. This year's Baltimore Ravens.
Last year's LA Rams. So if you score points, you actually are putting your team in a bad spot.
You want to actually be inept on offense and just play good defense. Punt the ball as often as you can.
And you can maybe luck into a Super Bowl. Well, here's the thing.
Ray was a part of like seven of those games. Yeah, he was.
That's true. Yes, he was.
It is true. Really, anyone that was on the Patriots in that time span.
Yeah, but it's crazy. It's like the stat, like no number one best wide receiver in the league has a Super Bowl in the last 20 years.
You don't learn how to win ugly. That's the thing.
You score a shitload of points. Yeah, the MVP stat.
There's been no MVP that's won a Super Bowl in the last 20 years. Here's another crazy stat.
It was the fourth time that the team with the most rushing yards in the entire league went up against the league's leading rusher in the postseason. All four times, the league's leading rusher game this is what you need a bell cow these games that's is this is the return of the bell cow back these games are what the rest of the nfl all the fans out there who don't have a team in the tournament these are the type of games that you can sit back and be like oh we're not that far away you actually don't need a really good quarterback and to score points like it's just it's in of course all what i'm saying is stupid it makes no sense because in reality it's obviously better to have lamar jackson than not have him but you can go to sleep tonight being like hey you know what's good not scoring points but also yeah ryan tannahill probably playing with a little extra edge because he was a wide receiver in college nobody asked him to try try out at wide receiver for the NFL.
What is he chopped liver as an athlete? True. He probably had a little bit of that extra motivation going.
How happy is Bill Pullian after this game? How happy are the Lamar haters? Bill Pullian took off his khakis real early in this game. Of course, he wears the second pair of khakis underneath.
And then he took his pants off. And then diapers.
And then another pair of khakis. And then a condom.
He took his first pair of khakis off real early on in this game it's it's crazy that people can't like and you know it's actually not crazy because it's twitter and everything has to be black and white here and no pun intended but uh it's like lamar jackson is a great quarterback he's an mvp but he also is not a complete, like, he's not a finished product when it comes to passing. It's not crazy to say.
Like, the Titans had a great game plan. They're like, we're going to make him throw outside and not be able to run it all over us.
And guess what? It worked. And, of course, the Ravens defense, you know, had mistakes as well.
But the Titans just need all the credit in the world because they're playing great football and Mike Vrabel might not have a penis after this. so that's, that's another hot topic of debate is whether or not Mike Vrabel said he would cut off his penis after they won a Superbowl or he would cut his penis off in order to win a Superbowl.
So like, we don't know. He might've already, he might be like a Ken doll put on the belt because it looks like they're going, well, they're certainly going to have a chance to get to the Super Bowl.
But, yeah, I don't know. Maybe he already cut – we need to study some tape on the sidelines and see if there's a bulge in his crotch where his dick should be.
No, we need someone to just go dick tap him. Yeah, just – well, no, because you can hit him.
We know he's got nuts. Yeah.
He coaches like he's got balls. Yes.
But we need to find out if he has a PP. Yeah.
so inconclusive yeah so in conclusion of this game ravens i'm not listen i want a little bit of credit for not trying to run up the score here they're not frauds they're not frauds but they played fraud but they but they got exposed that's what we get they got exposed that's a good way to put it yeah so i think if you're a ravens fan, you're sitting there like, well, that fucking sucks. I mean, it was an incredible season,

but now the doubts start creeping in

because you realize all this is so fleeting,

and next year, who knows?

I want to know what Hank's thinking right now

because he gave me this look when you said,

right now the doubts are creeping.

I want to know how this relates to the Patriots.

I think you've got to take.

Well, it's not.

If you're a Ravens fan, it's not fleeting. It's like your quarterback's 23.
He had an MVP season. It's more it's again, like I said before, you guys laughed at me when I was like Lamar has improved in the playoffs.
Peyton Manning, another MVP caliber quarterback couldn't get it done the playoffs. It might not just be like that.
He has weaknesses in his game. He's clear the MVP.
He just might not be able to get it done in the playoffs. Exactly like the Mustin Jacklander.
When I say he's got weaknesses in his game, again, he's the MVP. I'm just saying the Titans game plan very well for him, and he still put up crazy yards.
And, of course, they drove the ball. They just weren't able to finish drives, which obviously that matters a lot.
I'm just saying the fleeting to me is there there are certain years where it feels like that is your year for your team yeah to not win in those years like you just never know yeah i mean the capital has had several of those years last year i think the bears i was like this is the and look at they might be like literally back to square one rebuild every blow everything up but i do think there's something to be be said there saying it during the broadcast where it's like Lamar spent the entire offseason. He was super rattled by how bad he was in the playoffs.
That's all he was thinking about. He probably overthought the playoff game too much.
Those fourth and ones, man. They were so easy for them all year, and then they get in there, and it doesn't happen, and it's like, what the fuck? I actually think having Ingram being hurt, it took a big toll because he didn't have the confidence to hand the ball off to his running back on a lot of those read option plays he was making.
He was trying to do it all on his own. It wasn't working out.
I was actually thinking about these fourth and ones. Do you think that it affects the lifespan of your fan base as a coach if you go forward and fourth down more often? Are you giving people heart attacks? I'll bet you some people have died because of this reckless attention that he's paid to statistics yes i'd agree with that another crazy stat about this game the titans have only kicked one field goal since week nine what yeah one field goal since week nine yeah yeah they've had like 40 touchdowns like 43 touchdowns or something crazy like that since yes so there were 44 on field goals for the year for the entire year and now they just don't have a kicker which is like Vrabel just being like you know how um what's his name the old uh the old explorer was it Cortez Confucius that's yeah Confucius said we're going to burn our boats so that we don't have anything to go back on Vrabel is like we're going to always go for it on fourth downs.
We're going to score touchdowns. And to ensure that there's no other options, I'm not even going to have a kicker.
Damn. My dad had an original Mike Greenberg's dumb rule like 20 years ago where after every playoff game, any sport, you get to pick one player from the team you beat and bring them on the roster.
Absorb them? Yes. Justin Tucker.
You don't think they... The Titans would take him in a second.
You think they'd go Justin Tucker over Lamar Jackson? Dude. I think they probably would.
Ryan Tannehill fits in their office. Yeah.
Why would they do that? He fits in their office, which doesn't require the quarterback to play. Yeah, right.
Exactly. Lamar Jackson would be a waste.
Yeah. He would try to throw the ball, and that would be crazy.
You don't want to do that. It would also make Mark Ingram very, very jealous.
Oh, man. That is a crazy stat.
So insane game. Big rust.
The Titans are big rust, huge rust. And I think we technically own big trust now.
Because it didn't work. They need a new saying.
You can't bring that saying next year. So we have it.
We're the big trust team. Big trust podcast.
Yeah, big trust podcast. Hank said big sus last time.
That was good. That was really good.
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Okay, the crazy game, the nuts game. Holy shit.
Chiefs Texans, I still don't really understand how this happened. The Houston Texans were up 24 nothing they were up 24 nothing in the first quarter actually uh no yeah it was it was the end of the first quarter they're up 24 nothing they basically got given 14 of those points too everything was going well for them the the chiefs were dropping passes the texans were blocking punts everything was going well uh Tyreek Hill muffed the punt.
Travis Kelsey was screwing up left and right, and there was no hope whatsoever he was going to turn it around. The Kansas City Chiefs went into half 28-24.
They were down 24-0 in the first quarter. They went into the half with a lead.
They won the game by 20 points. That's's the first time that's ever happened a team that was down by 20 plus one by 20 plus the game had everything and i think we need to start okay let's let's talk narratives real quick is the narrative holy shit patrick mahomes we forgot how unbelievable he is and yeah the texans defense sucks or is it Bill O'Brien you cuck you went you turtled in the biggest moment I think it's Bill O'Brien the cucking of Bill O'Brien by his own brain so this happens with Bill occasionally he's not the I don't think Bill's the brightest guy in the entire world he's a he's a perfectly fine coach you can say considering what happened to the Texans before he was there and what he's done with that team yep it's a pretty good improvement over over previous regimes but he chases himself he chased he chases his own brain during games yes so he he kicked that field goal he gets so it's fourth and one they could have stopped they could have stomped on their throats they could have put the game away they score touchdown right they get a first down there they continue that drive they could have backs immediately.
And he didn't. Not only that, but you are going to Kansas City when you know that your defense cannot guard the Chiefs for four quarters.
You know that. And maybe the first quarter got in his head where he's like, hey, we can hang with these guys.
But you watched it. The Chiefs dropped the ball, easy drops, on two consecutive third downs to start the game.
So that's how that happens happens you're not going to beat the chiefs by kicking field goals you're not so i don't understand why he doesn't go for a touchdown there was like a feeling after those first couple drives when they had the drops it was like oh this is just one of those days where nothing's going kansas city's right so it's like maybe this will continue which i that's how i have to imagine bill o'brien was thinking when he decided to do that but then he just fucked himself. And then when they faked the punt later, that was clearly Bill O'Brien chasing his own brain from earlier being like, I should have been more aggressive earlier, so now I'm going to be aggressive.
Crazy. And screw everything up.
Andy Reid, to his credit, called a really good second quarter. Perhaps the best offensive second quarter.
Four touchdowns in the second quarter. That's the second time Patrick Mahomes has done that this this season he did it against the Raiders in like week six or whatever when he just went insane remember we we read those stats and it was crazy because it was like he scored four touchdowns in like six plays or some ridiculous run they scored seven touchdowns in a row possession wise it was insane what they did to the Texans defense which we all knew was suspect but to have a 24-0 lead and have it turn I don't even know if it's a choke because they it happened so fast three minutes yes definitely it was so fast it wasn't like you but it wasn't like they were like Trump like it would be ding it would be one thing if they held on that lead all the way to the fourth quarter and and it's like, oh, it's slowly bleeding away.
Yeah. It was, if you had just missed, like, if you were just in traffic and you had missed the first quarter, you would have sat down and been like, the Texans never had a chance in this game.
It was that crazy. They're like the Golden State Warriors.
The Kansas City Chiefs are like the former third quarter Warriors that would come out, and they'd be down by, like, two points, and then you blink your eyes eyes and now you're down by 40. That's what these Chiefs are like.
They can score points quicker than any other offense in the entire league right now. And so like they ran out of fireworks.
They did. They ran out.
Well, Andy Reid was blowing his nose. They ran out of fireworks.
That was better than fireworks. They ran out of fireworks.
And Andy Reid's snot rocket into a Gatorade towel is 10 times better than any fireworks. That's poor preparation by their people.
50 points isn't that much. 50-burger.
I agree. You've got to always be prepped for the 50-burger.
The Texans are very much like the Vikings. Okay, so the Ravens lose, and if you're a Ravens fan, you're walking away saying, we have the MVP.
He's 23 or 24. Everything's looking up.
We can build on this. Yeah, it sucks, but it will be okay in the long run.
The Vikings and the Texans, you kind of are what you are. And I guess Deshaun Watson is obviously significantly better than Kirk Cousins, but until he has the offensive line, until there's any semblance of defense, you kind of are what you are that you are this type of team that can lose by 20 when you're being up up 24 nothing can we just um i'd like to say i'd like to address something it's been a real trend on the internet recently when a game gets good everyone tweets out this game is drunk yes this game is right and let me clarify the game is not drunk you're drunk no you're drunk you're just drunk you're.
And also, it's disrespectful to drunks to be saying that the game is drunk because it's like crazy. It should be a compliment to be like, this game is drunk.
Whenever something good happens, it should be like, this is a nice drunk game. Also, like maybe this is just the age talking here, but I would prefer a buzzed game.
I don't want to be drunk. I'd rather have like this game has a five-beer buzz.
I'd like a nice day drunk game. Yeah.
Not bombed. This game is five-beer buzz.
Maybe you hit the vape pen and your boys are all kind of hanging out at the bar and the vibe is great. Drunk.
This game is chill. Yeah.
This game has caught a nice, tasty buzz. This game is golden hour.
Everything's going well. The right song's on in the jukebox.
It's that level. This is the God moment game.
I don't want to puke on myself. Yeah, I'm guaranteeing you within the next week, probably for the championship game, Ravel is going to hit this game is drunk tweet.
Yeah. He's going to try to monetize.
Oh, he for sure is. Yeah, he probably trademarked it.
Absolutely. All right.
Also, is the Kansas City Wolf okay? Yeah. Casey Wolf? Yeah, Casey Wolf.
He was upset. I love the Wolf.
He's so good. Anytime you can get a mascot on a Segway, that's a winning combination right there.
The way that he reacts to field goals that are made against the Chiefs, amazing. Also, the Casey Wolf, anytime you get a mascot, it has like a pear-shaped body and he can move his hips like a hula hoop.
He's thick, yeah. Like Philly Fanatic and the Casey Wolf.
Love that. The googly eyes are a nice touch, too.
Love that. Love the Casey Wolf.
So Andy Reid now hosting an AFC Championship game. Back-to-back years.
Can Andy Reid get back to the Super Bowl? I need it. I need it so bad.
Andy Reid in shorts all week in Miami. Maybe a little suntan lotion on his nose.
I don't know. Like the Chiefs, if you're...
Socks and sandals for Andy. It's crazy how bad this game started for the Chiefs and how it felt like it was going to be such a choke.
And to have it turn like that, that's got to be an an all-time feeling like there was a fan who went viral because he left after the first quarter which that guy fucking did it for attention shut up that's not like a miami heat fan thing where he actually like you if you leave in the first quarter of a divisional round game with that offense you're just a tryhard who's trying to get attention right um yeah andy reed is going to be yeah what's that, Hank? Agreed. Yeah, that's a loser.
Andy Reid, Super Bowl. I'm getting a whole vibe from it.
I'm getting a whole mood. You get a buzz vibe? You get a buzz vibe.
Hank's shaking his head no. He's going to tighten up.
I don't know who to root for in that game. I will say that Roger Goodell is absolutely smashing the nut button on the prospect of the Kansas City Chiefs Packers Super Bowl rematch of Super Bowl one in the hundredth year of the NFL doing a major stay woke on that one.
If Roger Goodell would be the kind of guy to pull any strings behind the scenes. And I don't know if he is or not.
You already did tonight with the Packers. You already did with the Packers.
Roger Goodell is absolutely going to try to engineer that. Yes.
Yes. Also, I did tweet.
Thanks for coming out, Chiefs. That was wrong.
No, you were. You were saying, thanks for coming out.
Thanks for coming out. Patrick Mahomes then liked it, which I like the petty wars.
If you come back in a game and you almost go and just scroll for the old text exposed. That has to be such a great feeling.
Absolutely. Look at all these people.
But you were actually being sincere when you said you said thank you for playing football yes it was good to see you play yeah i also do that to the titans early in that game it's it's but i there's times where i'm like do i control how a football game goes with my idiotic tweets where i actually decide who's going to win a game after four minutes of football maybe uh if that were true then the seahawks definitely would have won yeah i tried tried my best i tried my best all right we're gonna do that game before we do that all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with reese's and hershey's only one reese's peanut butter lovers protein bar is made with reese's peanut butter and only one hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with Hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and three grams of sugar. One bars are the perfect protein bar to get you through your busy day, whether you need a quick pick me up between meetings or you need some fuel to power you through your next workout.
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Yeah, it is. It's hard to beat the Packers and the refs.
And again, I'm not going to complain about the refs. But if I were to complain about the refs, that bullshit spot was bullshit.
And that should have been reviewed. And they should have used common sense.
And Jimmy Graham didn't get a first down. The only big disappointment I had with this game is Aaron Rodgers' body language overall.
If you don't look happy to throw for a completion and get a game-clinching first down, you don't deserve to have it. Did you see Coward bet on the Packers because Aaron Rodgers wore a hat to his press conference? He doesn't care about how his hair looks.
Okay, yeah, I'll buy that. Colin Coward didn't? I thought Colin Coward was like, don't wear a hat.
No, don't wear a hat that's not straightening going exactly forward. Yeah, but he had that take, but he also had the, like, Matthew Stafford wears a baseball cap.
Oh, backwards hat. That's backwards cap.
Big difference. Backwards hat.
I think just a ball cap in general. Okay, I gotta straighten out my Colin Goward takes.
Listen, the Packers deserve to win this game, whatever.

But you know what I'm saying?

Like Aaron Rodgers, he throws for that first down to Jimmy Graham

at the end of the game.

He's not even happy.

He's depressed.

He is depressed.

He's very depressed.

He's doing so many commercials.

You know what?

That's why he probably keeps winning these playoff games.

He wants to keep getting those free meals from the team.

Doesn't have to worry about a seamless account.

Another week of health insurance. Exactly.
We're on to you, Aaron. Yeah, the Packers.
I mean, the Seahawks can't put themselves in that type of hole. And, of course, they come back because that's what – like that was such a classic Seahawks.
They're coming all the way back. I just don't understand Pete Carroll punting.
And I know it's 4th and 11, but there's nothing worse if you're a sports fan to have your team punt the ball and never get it back. Yeah, we're going to give the ball to Aaron Rodgers.
Surely he won't put together a drive. Just go for it on 4th and 11.
If you don't get it, you're still in the same exact spot. I know field position, blah, blah, blah.
It's a five-point game. If they kick a field goal, it doesn't matter.
You still need a touchdown regardless. So I ran the stats on this.
Don't do that when you have Russell Wilson. I ran the stats and the percentages on that play call.
It turns out that you can't score the ball if you don't have the ball. Correct.
So when you're down by points, in order to get those points back, you have to possess it. So ipso facto, Pete Carroll probably should have a point of that point.
Go Niners. Go Niners.
And Aaron Rodgers is doing that thing now where he's back. He has not looked like old school Aaron Rodgers at times this year, but he has that thing where he's running around.
He's hitting Devontae Adams. He's hitting those broken plays.
They're winning ugly. Everything is staying alive for him.
Hey, you know what? We don't talk about the fact that the Titans are in the AFC Championship game when they lost Matt LaFleur as the offensive coordinator. And their offense looks great.
That's true. Maybe we should start talking about that more.
I'm not going to be salty. I told people that if they subscribe, I won't be salty.
Can I just tell you a way to soothe your own soul about this? You can just say this isn't Aaron Rodgers' team. This is Aaron Jones' team.
Yes. He's got a running back that's putting him on his back.
Yes, that's a good point. Marshawn Lynch, by the way, had it.
I hope this isn't it. It probably is because he doesn't really look like it.
Maybe if he has a whole offseason, he'll be better. Touch touchdowns.
He had two touchdowns. That's true.
He had 12 carries for 26 yards and two touchdowns. He is very, very good at getting the ball one yard out and just falling forward no matter what.
Yeah, can they just leave him? Probably the best ever. Yeah, so you get – yeah, exactly.
Why won't you always use him in that situation? The saying for fullbacks that they used to do, like, do you want – do you need half a yard? He'll get you a yard. Do you need three yards? He'll get you a yard.
They should make a rule that there's a 54th roster spot, and it's just the fun spot. So, like, Terrell Owens can come back.
Chad Otrosenko can come back. Marshawn Lynch can be on the Seahawks for the next 20 years and just run goal line.
So just have one extra spot on every NFL team. Brett Favre.
And it's just a fun spot. It has to pack.
We are the commissioners of the fun spot. Each team has to send in notice of who they're going to use for that spot.
And we will agree with it. Let's run a quick simulation of the remaining teams that you have in the playoffs

right now.

Yeah.

49ers, fun spot.

Who's that guy?

49ers, fun spot.

Kaepernick, just for the takes.

Kaepernick, just for the takes.

I love it.

Packers, fun spot.

Favre.

Favre, just so that he can get

Aaron Rodgers' head

and then Aaron Rodgers

can fall apart.

Vince Young for the Titans.

Yes, absolutely.

Vince Young would be awesome to just hang out. And then for the Chiefs, maybe have Tony Gonzalez get a ring.
Yeah, it's not bad. Why not? I'll take that one.
Yeah, why not? Or any of the 49ers old quarterbacks. Yes, or throw Alex Smith.
Larry Johnson. Lamar Charles.
Yeah. What? Jamal Charles.
Jamal Charles. Lamar Charles.
I don't know why I said Jamal. You just invented an awesome football card.

Lamar Charles.

Yeah, he's fun.

Damn, that was a bad brain moment.

All right, fun spot makes a good idea, though.

That's a good new Mike Greenberg's dumb rules.

We should have one spot.

You have to send it in to us, and we will let you know if it's allowed or not.

Honestly, Herm Edwards on the Chiefs.

Herm Edwards on the Chiefs would be fantastic.

If the Ravens were still in it, have, well, no, Terrell Suggs is on the Chiefs. Ray Lewis.
Ray Lewis. Flacco.
That's why the Ravens lost this time. Flacco would be great.
They didn't have Flacco to put in in the second half. Flacco would be great.
That would be fucking awesome. If it was the Vikings, put Randy Moss on there.
You don't think Randy Moss could get a catch downfield? Without a doubt. And everyone would tune in being like, when are they going to deploy Randy Moss? Yeah.
also can we give a shout out to fox and cbs for showing like behind the scenes the pro football hall of fame giving spots to bill cowher and uh jimmy johnson well that was one of my who's backs david baker the biggest man the largest human being that's ever been created he's 400 pounds he weighs 400 pounds he would be a king in 400 years ago yeah he would have been the king of all of europe well just by size he also just looks like chris berman got into some dna splicing factory with uh emerald lagasi he yes he someone someone tweeted that he looks like a dick tracy villain and it couldn't be more spot on he would be 400 years ago david baker is the king of europe he's six foot nine and he dies at a very old age of 19 he's six foot nine he's 400 pounds i think florio tweeted something out about like he got arrested a while back because he was running for congress and he wrote an illegal check to himself he sweats through suits and also the we gotta get him on the pod yeah should we absolutely do the bill cower and and uh jimmy johnson he the the premise is he's sneaking up on them the largest man that's ever been created is sneaking up on them like a tiny little mouse to tell them that they're going to the pro football hall of fame and then having them do alligator tears in front of everyone he's one one of those guys you can definitely smell before you see. It smells like leather and whiskey coming down the hallway.
The craziest part about him is you see him and you're like, oh, he's president of the Pro Football Hall of Fame because he was probably like a Steelers offensive lineman in the 70s. No, he didn't play in the NFL.
He's just the largest man ever. Yeah.
dude, I love him. And it's like, the whole concept is

like punked, but reversed. Like a good

version of punk. You know what they should do?

They should actually have him punk

like Matt Hasselbeck. Go out and

say, Matt, I've got some great news.

I'm here on set with you today.

And then turn around and walk away.

Or go up to Dan Marino's Super Bowl week

and be like, Dan, we've got you a Super

Bowl ring. Just kidding.

And then pull a fucking middle finger out of his pocket

right in Dan's face. He's such a jerk.
All right. Let's do who's back.
And then we'll do a couple more ads and get to Stanford. Steve.
Hank, who's back? My who's back is Anthony Davis in Chicago. Yeah.
He opted out. So he's not like he.
That was a while ago. He chose.
I know. But today I feel like he chose.
He was going to go into free agency this summer. Chicago people got really excited, and then he showed up to Lambeau today in a full Packers jersey.
He is a Packers fan. And was like daffing up Aaron.
How is that possible? I don't know. He's just a big Packers fan.
He likes excellence. He appreciates a man with good eyebrows, and Aaron Rodgers has pretty good eyebrows.
You know what sucks? It's one of those things where if you're a Chicago fan, you could attest to this big guy, but you see that he's opting out. You're like, oh shit, opting out.
He's going to come home and then you see him at Lambeau. Full package gear.
I can look past it. It's a level 10 wanker.
I can look past it. I can look past it.
It's got to be tough though. It's got to be like put a little doubt in your mind.
I can look past it. You know what really sucks? The Lakers are really fucking good.
Right now.

Peaking too early.

They didn't even have Anthony Davis and LeBron the other night,

and they fucking smoked the thunder.

Lexus Kuzma's fighting for his job.

Right.

But he's still out.

He's gone.

It's bad, though, because I saw that quote.

They're peaking way too early.

Dwight Howard's fighting for his legacy.

Kuzma's fighting for his job.

Rondo put up insane numbers.

Hank, I'm putting in the tickler file panic button is in the backyard it's sitting it's actually right by the citronella candles we we just finished a grill grill out we forgot to bring it in but it's sitting out there peaking too early okay um i think he's back as josh mcdaniels which is oh we talked about it earlier right yeah yes it's a fact in new england. By the way, peaking too early is also back because of the Ravens.
They peaked way too early. Rick Pitino.
It's bad to be good. Making another comeback.
And you never want to be good. It's bad to be good before everyone else is good.
You need one slip up at the end of the season to refresh you. It's bad to score points.
The Ravens not losing since week four. It points they didn't know yeah they didn't know you get shocked back to reality at some point this actually makes me think that like if if uh i don't know the cincinnati bangles had snuck their way into the playoffs they might have won it all like they don't score they're bad they never good before the playoffs right they could have done it.
So, yeah, McDaniels is back in New England.

He brought his wife with him to his interview.

Kind of a beta move.

Well, he's the coach of the team.

She's the coach of the family.

Of the house, yeah.

Apparently, they went out for lunch.

Like, he went out for lunch at some country club with Haslam.

He went out to lunch with him, but it was a guys-only place.

So his wife had to go out to lunch. Sit in the car with someone else crack the windows probably 1955 what is this restaurant that's how Jimmy has Jimmy has absolutely the answer is yes coaching search yeah so was it just like his house did they go to his house and he was like oh like no women Josh McDaniels left a little only left a windshield.
Be like, don't worry. I left the air conditioning off for my wife.
Don't break the window with a rock. Break glass.
All right. Who's your who's back? My who's back of the week is the Española Island tortoises.
They're back. Big time.
Great. Because they were down to extinction pretty much.
There were like three of them left. And then this one tortoise named Diego

fucked the entire species back off the endangered species list.

So he fucked like two turtles?

No, yeah, he probably fucked two turtles,

but he fucked them a lot.

And now there are like 1,200 tortoises back in the wild.

So shout out Diego, the capital D.

Love it.

Diego, slang in that thing.

Love Diego.

Turtles fuck.

I don't know how turtles fuck. They've got that shell.
That that's probably why they always go extinct you've never seen turtles fucking no hilarious tortoises there's some funny yeah I feel like it went viral recently yeah they do like the yeah tortoises fucking like that it must be it must be tough though because they got the shell So you have to be, like, deeply accurate with that thing.

Slide it in.

It's a heat-seeking missile.

Do some research.

Okay.

I'm going to do a lot of tortoise fucking research tonight.

Yeah, Google that.

All right.

My who's back was David Baker, but it's also minor confrontations at the airport, which I love to get the juices flowing.

I think, PFT, you were taking a piss, but I was telling Hank, I was sitting on the plane. We got middle seats, which that was an experience.
I'm not, I'm too big for middle seat. No, I'm too big for middle seat.
The guy next to me was not happy, but the other guy on my other side, middle of the flight takes out his phone, starts watching YouTube videos without headphones in. Can't do that.
I just turned to him and I was like, hey, you got headphones, buddy? And he's like, no. And then he kept on watching.
I was like, well, you're going to turn that off? And he gave me this huff puff. And I was like, listen, if we want to fight in a phone booth here in this corner, we will.
You can't watch. You cannot watch movies on your phone with no headphones.
It would have been a great power move if you had flagged a stewardess or the steward down and been like uh excuse me can i get some headphones and then paid for them like five bucks yeah like here you go here you go dude here you go you can't you can't afford them even though i'm sitting in a middle seat exactly but yeah totally alpha the guy in the aisle seat i actually saved my money by getting this middle seat so i could buy you you your stupid. It was awesome, though, because it happened like halfway through the flight.
So we had an hour and a half left of just sitting next to each other with tension, a lot of tension. And that is thrilling.
Can't fall asleep. Wanted to fall asleep.
Couldn't fall asleep. What if he rabbit punches me while I'm falling asleep? It would have been worse than a rabbit punch if he had started listening to, like,

simply having a wonderful Christmas time.

Oh, my God.

I would have.

That would have been good.

Actually, the whole plan would have jumped him.

He was a weirdo, though.

He was a big.

He also ate a full, like, tuna fish sandwich.

So it was already bad.

That's true.

It was already in a bad spot.

One last who's back of the week.

Our guy, Jules.

We're thinking about Jules.

Yeah.

There was an alleged.

Free Jules.

An alleged jewels in alleged

incident in southern california uh where he it was probably like a very like low mileage car and julian wanted to emphasize that he's trying to save the earth and jumped on the car to try to disable the engine that was contributing so many carbon emissions to the environment and I guess it got lost in translation somehow

and the cops came.

He was with Paul Pierce beforehand. When he was with Paul Pierce, that's just bound to happen.
Oh, he's with Danny Amendola, too. Bad influence, Danny.
Paul Pierce put up a picture, and someone commented, was like, was this before Jules got arrested? And Pierce replied, it was like, minutes before, my street cred has never been higher. So the guy that got stabbed like 11 times and then played an entire season,

now his street cred is looking good.

Well, then he also said that he shit his pants during the game.

Remember that?

I think his street cred probably went up, actually, when he had to shit his pants.

Is that why he brought the wheelchair out?

No, he was very hurt.

Oh, I thought he was just...

He battled through an extreme injury against all odds to come back and win that game. Okay.
But yeah, Julian, we got you back. We got you.
They always say you literally run like a deer. That's about as close, getting hit by a car.
Yep. It was a frame job.
About as close as you can get. Yeah, it was a setup.
It was actually Danny Amendola, and the person who filed the report was Al Michaels. Yes.
Because he always mixes those two guys up. Got it.
So, Danny, we know your tricks. We do.
Dirtbag. Dirtbag.
Dirtbag. Okay.
Jules. We got Stanford Steve.
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Now, Stanford Steve. okay we now welcome on recurring guest, Stanford Steve, because you were on before when we did the Mount Rushmore of Mount Rushmore's with Scott Van Pelt.
You are Scott Van Pelt's right-hand man. You're actually more famous than that, though, now.
You have Behind the Bets podcast. We're in New Orleans.
It's not Behind the Bets. Stanford Steve and the Bear.
Stanford Steve and the Bear, formerly Behind the Bets. Got it.
Let's start here. So we're in new orleans it's not behind the bed stay for steven the bear stay for steven the bear formally behind the bets got it uh let's start here so we're in the national we're here for the national championship in new orleans you showed up with a full lsu track suit which to me just validates everyone's uh stay woke that espn is all sec bias you guys paid for this game to happen for LSU to get here, and you are showing everyone your allegiance to the SEC with your LSU jumpsuit.
Okay. A couple things.
You set yourself up for that. A couple things.
All right. We are in my favorite state in the country, Louisiana.
You will see later on. There are no rules.
If you've been here, you know that, right, BFTA? Louisiana, who cares? It's awesome. I do have in my bag.
He's pulling it out. It should be 100%.
He has a alternate LSU. Oh, no, it's a Bama jumpsuit.
So it's a Bama jumpsuit. So he made sure that no matter what, he was covered when people said, hey, aren't you supposed to – Oh, there he is.
It's a Clemson jumpsuit. That actually is pretty sick.
Now, in that bag, is that the bag that you used to drop off the cash to the NCAA to make sure that LSU had to play against Oklahoma? Yeah, to the attention of Mark Emmert. They got to avoid OSU.
Let me know when we are halfway through, and I will go change into the Clemson. All right, Hank? You got me? I'm on the clock.
Okay, so we have you, Steve, here because you are a college football expert.

I actually don't think I know anyone who loves college football as much as you do.

Would you think that's fair to say?

I would like to be in the conversation for sure.

You love the sport.

You breathe the sport.

You eat the sport.

You are here.

This is the game.

So let's start with the game.

We'll talk about all other stuff, but let's start with the game.

Give us why LSU is going to win by 100 um well going back you know i obviously the last time we saw them was the peach bowl and i was really curious to see how burrow came off the banquet tour you know going to the heisman trophy going to the awards in atlanta going on part of my take studio in New York City. And I was really – I thought like, obviously, maybe a little rust, you know, there was a long layoff, and he came out as sharp as possible.
So the layoff thing is not – I don't think it's going to be a factor here. And the one thing I will say is, as good as he is, his receivers are incredible.
They're all NFL guys. And, I mean, they can just do whatever they want.
And then you mentioned Edwards-Alaire, the running back. I mean, they've just done whatever they've wanted every single game, running the ball, throwing the ball.
His over for passing yards in the national title game is 365. That's insane.
That's incredible. That's insane.
So, I mean, if they just come out and play their game, I mean, obviously, I just think Clemson has a couple tricks. Not a couple tricks, but I think a couple things they could do defensively to make them one-dimensional or at least try to.
But, I mean, as long as Burrow's on the field, you've got to be confident. So what is Dabo going to do? What gadgets is he going to pull out to try to limit Louisiana State's offense? Well, going back to the Fiesta Bowl, and it feels like a couple days after, the talk was, oh, this game's going to – this isn't the game we wanted because we thought Ohio State matched up better with LSU.
I totally disagreed. I thought Clemson matches up better with LSU because in order to be LSU, you have to outscore them.
You know, you got to keep pace. You're not going to shut them down.
Like you got to pencil LSU in for 28 points. I like that.
I like that. To beat LSU, you got to outscore them.
Score more points than them. You do have like a Trent Dilfer vibe going on, too.
I do. No, I know what you're saying, though.
They're built better. They can put up big points.
They have them. Trevor Lawrence, and I'm getting killed also, too, because I would take Trevor Lawrence over Burrow.
Really? Yeah. What he showed in that Fiesta Bowl, the amount of times he got hit,

and everybody's saying Chase Young didn't have a sack, but he hit him 95 times right after he threw the ball,

and he helped him get off the field,

or helped him get off after he knocked him down every single time.

So Clemson has the goods.

I thought the receivers were kind of spotty there.

I think they're pretty elite, if you're going to say that.

Yeah, the E-word.

Well, you need to.

The E-word.

I don't know. The Clemson has the goods.
I thought the receivers were kind of spotty there. I think they're pretty elite.

Okay.

You know, if you're going to say that.

Yeah, the E-word.

Well, you need to show respect.

Yeah, you can say elite, but more than anything,

you need to show respect to Davos Program.

Excuse me, Program.

Because he is saying that he's a big nobody respect.

Flea flicker, flea flicker.

Sorry, there's a flea flicker in the game.

Alert, alert. That's nice for you.

It was terrible. I nailed it.
I absolutely nailed it. We have it on tape.
We have it on tape, so we'll bring that back. But do you respect Clemson? Because Dabba always says the national media doesn't respect us.
Absolutely. Real talk for a second here.
Yeah. It's amazing how they've stayed motivated 29 in a row.
But in order to stay motivated, you see how annoying he is. And, I mean, just imagine if you're annoyed with how he goes about things and claiming he's an underdog.
Like, he came out with Van Pell after the Fiesta Bowl. He's like, well, people still – I mean, we're number three.
They're number one. Right.
He's so mad. It's so – I mean, it's maniacal the way he goes about things.
And I can't imagine being a player and hearing it if we're already kind of tired, you know, being on the outside and we hear that stuff. Well, it also speaks to, like, the fact that they haven't lost in two years.
You know, the way I've always understood it, and you obviously played at Stanford. You can tell me if this is totally wrong.
But the way Saban does it, the way like Urban did it, you have basically two shots a year to get your guys at peak peak ready for a game. There's going to be lulls otherwise.
There's going to be games that are going to be tougher because you maybe not have 100%. So to keep them ready and keep that like bullet in the gun for those peak games when you're playing NC State in the middle of October or whatever it may be.
And they only had one real game that they almost tripped up against North Carolina. Otherwise, they have been incredible for two years straight now.
It's unbelievable. I mean, you go back and look.
It's 150 years of college football. This run is up there.
It's what they've done, the amount of times they had to play Alabama, who is on their own incredible run with Saban, do you feel like he gets enough credit, though? It feels like we want to take shots at him because of the way he goes about things. I don't think he gets enough credit.
I think he has in the past. This year he's been overshadowed for sure because there have been more exciting storylines and like you can't get out of coach o's you can't escape his shadow when you're being compared to when you're when you're matched up against him in the title game it's like everyone's gonna be talking about coach o sorry dabbo hearing you say like go tigers at the end of your interview isn't going to move the needle like coach o rambling on about like gumbo and sounding like he's a tiger that got struck by a bolt of lightning like everyone loves coach oh it's also a very weird thing with college football because we always like complain about coaches and then you look back and what is it it's there's three coaches right now that that have a national title that are coaching it's less miles dabo and saban am i forgetting someone i mean urban just retired yeah urban, Urban just retired.
Les came back. Right.
Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo Fisher.
So there's four. So there's four guys.
You say, like, oh, I want to coach a national champion caliber coach. There's four of them.
Four of them in 150 programs, wherever it may be. So it's a weird dynamic where everyone complains about coaching, and then you have to take a step back and be like, oh, yeah.
There's really only three guys. mean there's there's three guys one and and i put jimbo in there probably not less at kansas anymore but and urban is retired so all these guys you know dabbo and saban are at just a completely different level and then when they get to that completely different level we try to pick them apart because that's the nature right to to pick someone apart to try to find something wrong with everyone absolutely and that and that's the trickle-down effect.
Like, look at, you know, you've had Jim Harbaugh on the show. Like, what's Michigan going to do? Who are they going to get that is better than him? Yeah.
You know, like, and all these fan bases, you know, the websites and all this, like, what do you think you're getting? You just said there's four guys. Four guys in the sport have won national titles.
The Harbaugh thing is so weird, too, because you can, depending on which angle you want to look at it at, you can make the case convincingly one way or the other because you could say he hasn't beaten Ohio State, they haven't been in the college football playoff, they're not relevant on a national scale like Clemson in Alabama, or you could look at it like a rich eisman and be like hey they were two two games away from a national uh college football playoff two times you know the spot and then what was the other year they were they were like that close they've never been to indy but they've been that close and he they're significantly better than they were the 10 years before he got there right he's lost games that no one thought they were gonna win yeah i think it's just the way he's lost to ohio state yeah no the way he's lost to ohio state is the way that that that's where it hurts i think the fact that there hasn't been one game where he's like kind of broken that trend it was the game the spot it was the game the spot so if if he had one win against you know that was it then that's that would turn the entire thing around and i think you're right like people do need to it's actually a good life lesson to be very happy to be very happy having like moderate success at something and not ever thinking that you can like be the top or that you deserve the top of everything like with michigan yeah you could say or we're not competing for national title right now we're gonna get Harbaugh, and they'll probably get somebody in there who's worse. They'll end up getting worse by trying to get better.
Yeah, Steve, let me ask you this then, because it's also expectations. College football fan bases in general, I think, are the fan bases that are most irrational with their expectations.
Which fan bases are the craziest when it comes to where they think they should be and where reality is because that's really what it comes out of. Michigan thinks they should be Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson.
They're not. Craziest or worst? Craziest or worst? Craziest.
Michigan's up there. Michigan's up there.
Look at Bo Schembechler. I mean, RIP, I'm sorry.
Go back and look at his record in bowl games. I think he coached in 10 Rose Bowls.
You know how many he won? What, one? Two. Yeah.
Two and eight. But he's a god.
I mean, the image, everything that was created before us, all that stuff is kind of nuts when you go back and look at it. And we're doing all these celebrations of top coaches, all this stuff.
Schembechler in the top 20 is not right. By the way, I'm mad about a list.
I like it. Are you a little bit offended that ESPN didn't ask you to take part in one of their 19 different alternate channel broadcasts for the game tomorrow? Yeah.
You should just do a periscope of yourself on the toilet in the Superdome and be like, this is the 10th broadcast. We got responsibilities.
We got postgame responsibilities. Do a periscope of yourself with the coach's corner room on in the background.
You're having a conversation with them like you're part of the crew. Yes.
Insert yourself. All right, so Michigan, what's another one? Give me another one so people don't think we're just picking on Michigan.
Texas? I know. This has turned into a Michigan.
Miami. Texas? Miami? Great one.
Nebraska? I mean, Miami is. Nebraska, yeah.
Those are good. You guys are nailing this.
Why are you even asking me? Miami's a really easy problem to solve. It's like, just let them cheat.
Just hire the biggest possible cheater. Pay more.
Pay more. All the time.
Yeah. Find another guy that's got a Ponzi scheme going there and let him run the program again.
Okay. All right.
Those are really good. All right.
So then do this as well because we're doing like a state of the college football so it has been dominated the the college football playoff has been dominated by the same grouping of teams give me one or two teams that hasn't been there that you could see realistically being there in the next five years oh uh thank you really good question and you don't have to say w because they aren't going to be. It's okay.
Texas. Okay.
You believe in them. I do.
What about your guy in Utah? Man, if they couldn't get there this year, like what the heck, man? Yeah. You know? Oregon.
Yeah. Yeah.
Minnesota. P.J.
Fleck. I know you're a big P.J.
Fleck guy. I am.
I mean. Roll the boat.
But I think. Jack Ski-Bah.
Whatever the hell. Yeah.
Go Gophers. It's an easier way to put it.
We need to just keep adding things for PJ Fleck. So every sign off is like 15 minutes long.
It's incredible. Co-Big Ten West champions.
It's true. Just didn't go to Indy.
It's true. He signs off every single address.
Like the most annoying person in the world that emails you. It has 19 different abbreviations for project manager professional.
Yeah, it's crazy. He gets results.
Those are the type of coaches that make an impact where it's like that was the best season Minnesota's had in 50 years. Now, they still didn't win the axe.
And you could say that that's disappointing, but I won't say that. Now, what about Rutgers? So, my is making his triumph helicopter going around does it have missiles on it he's just shooting recruits with nets and just dragging them back to fucking Piscataway you're coming to New Jersey buddy the Rose Bowl goes through Piscataway I believe I said that I would cut my penis off if they were ever ranked number one in college football.
It's cutting penis off. Yeah, it's pretty nice.
So are they ever going to be able to compete in the Big Ten? I mean, they're competing now, aren't they? They're out there. They do play.
They're doing their thing. They do field a team.
All right, I'll phrase it this way. Over-under wins for Greg Sciano in his first two years.
Seven. Over.
Okay. Because.
Spicy. I would imagine he took that job and can finagle maybe that that second year schedule.
They're playing FC Midwest.

Yeah, right, right.

That's not a bad number though. I've always wondered how come

the Northeast never has

any good college football teams.

When was the last time they had a competitive team?

Mount Ryan, BC.

It's really close to our

I grew up in Connecticut, obviously

and love the sport. They went to Fiesta Bowl.
UConn, Fiesta Bowl. Yeah, absolutely.
You know who the offensive coordinator was? Who was the offensive coordinator? Just got fired at Mississippi State. Oh, Joe Moorhead.
Joe Moorhead, yeah. But yeah, no, that's BC, Matt Ryan.
I mean, we can't really, you can't claim Penn State. You know, Pennsylvania is its own thing.
Temple's had Matt Rules. Syracuse.
Yeah. Syracuse, Dino Babers.
Yeah, they had something. Philly, I don't – yeah, I don't – Syracuse back in the day.
Yeah. You know, but it's pretty pathetic how bad college football is.
Sad state of affairs. It's about the NESCAC and the Ivy League.
That's right. All right, so then one more big college football question.
You go everywhere. Yep.
You travel everywhere. Give me your Mount Rushmore of college football towns that you like to go to for a game day.
For a game day. What? Oh, what are you? Oh, we're watching the game.
Hank just put his hand up. I thought there was something wrong.
Yeah. By the way, can I just say that I love Sneaky Love, your podcast with the Bear, Behind the Bats, with Stanford, Stephen, the say that I love sneaky love uh your podcast with the bear behind the bats with Stanford Steve and the bear I love when you every single show they start it with uh Steve asking bear how he's going to get to and from game day and it's the funny like it's one of those things you think it wouldn't be interesting but when they break down like the options to get to like corvallis yeah and you're like what oh jesus christ it really is this time like pullman washington it's incredible it's it's my favorite thing that they do that's just like you would think like two guys talking about plane trips is boring but it's fascinating every time he it's him yeah his delivery he knows what he's in what he's in for and all that stuff uh that's my man, and I always try and make sure he's good.
The bear has to be rested and capable to do his duties. So he has to be comforted.
The best thing about it is I always try to make sure. There's always a private jet involved because of Herbstreet.
So that's how it started. Trent Dilfer's jet.
Yeah, Herm Street gets a private jet everywhere, right?

Everywhere.

Okay, so four.

Four college football towns that you love going to.

Baton Rouge, that's an easy one.

One.

I have a little recency bias because I went to Ole Miss this year.

Okay. And the Grove is absolutely incredible.

The stadium, it wasn't really that full, but it was a low week. LSU had just beaten Alabama.
Ole Miss was Ole Miss. Camp Randall's up there.
Okay. Wando's.
Appreciate that. Shout out to the guys at Wando's.
For a game day atmosphere, Wisconsin is definitely up there. Just a little weird with the tailgating scene there.
Yeah, there isn't much because there's too much city. There's not enough.
It's not like going to Iowa where Iowa tailgates are awesome. There's fields everywhere, Penn State, or even Michigan with the golf course across the road.
Like, you don't have the wide open spaces. Yeah, like Baton Rouge.
Go there. Autzen Stadium, Oregon is pretty incredible.
So that's a good four. I like that four.
Seattle, UW is the loudest stadium I ever was in, played in. I love when that upper deck shakes.
They all do, what is that, physics? Weirdest camera angles. Washington for basketball and football, weirdest camera angles.
Whenever you watch a Pac-12 game late with Bill Walton on the, and you're like, why can't they see the whole court? They have to slowly pan. It's like if a fast break happens too fast, you're not going to see it.
You ever do the sail gating and then have the UW rowing team row you into the game? I did not do that. Apparently, you pay them like five bucks, and they just take you from your boat right up to the gate.
Nice. Yeah, that's pretty sick.
Pretty good in the boat. Great book.
We were going to read that for Andrew Lux book club, but then we decided to read Wikipedia instead. That was his first month.
Do you think that Andrew Luck has made it seem like Stanford's a little soft by retiring? No. Okay.
I just wanted to throw that in there. Yes.
Okay. They were already soft before he retired.
Incorrect. Our mutual friend, Sam Schwartstein has a nice spin zone going.
Well, it was nice when the Texans were up 24-0. He said, is Andrew Luck the MVP of the NFL this year because he let the AFC South thrive by retiring? Okay.
That's it. What about famous professor adjunct Condoleezza Rice? Are you disappointed that she didn't get any interviews this year? Am I disappointed? To be a head coach, yeah.
No. Okay.
I think she's moved on. What about when Stanford played Kansas on a primetime Saturday afternoon game and they scored two points in 15 minutes? Yeah.
What about it? I'm just comment. Did you see what they've done since? There's only one team.
In the Pac-12? Yeah, Pac-12. Yeah, there's only one team with no losses in the Pac-12.
Arizona State? No. Oh.
Stanford. So were you here for the last two national championships in New Orleans? I was not here in 07.
I was here in 11. Okay, so you're here in 2011 in New Orleans.
How big of a home field advantage is it going to be inside the Superdome tomorrow? It's funny. We were talking about it yesterday.
Just the idea of that game, it's still mind-boggling to know. I was like, I thought it was like more Alabama, actually, in the stadium, in the dome, than LSU in the 11.
And then my buddy who's an LSU alum, shout out Brandon Landry,

was like, we didn't have a thing to cheer for.

So, of course, it was Alabama.

That's like when we went to Baton Rouge last year against Alabama,

and it was awesome, and then there was no cheering.

It was – I would say it was 50-50.

This is going to be interesting, though,

because I call it the Saban disease of fans.

Alabama fans got fatigued of going to SEC title games, playoff games, and national championship games. Only so much money you can spend going around the road.
So does Clemson have that already? Yeah. Are they that spoiled? Interesting.
Spoiled fan base. I like that take a lot.
Santa Clara was a pricey ticket. Yeah, absolutely.
And they showed. They showed.
I mean, I was impressed with the Clemson turnout there. But also, you factor in, I mean, it's a long drive, but it's doable.
They can also fly. Actually, a lot of South Carolinians are on probation, so they probably can't leave their state without checking in first.
It's an issue there. Why? For various things, usually just fraud.
A lot of fraud. It's a hot fraud town.
Hot fraud i i it'll be a considerable advantage all right i have one last question seeky question pft's got his seats through seeky they're sick they're really nice seats yeah you can go to the national title game you can knock off ten dollars off the price with promo code take by the way i'll wave to you guys from the field all right got sideline passes? Yeah, that's because you got LSU into the national title game. Sorry, we like to watch you all 22.
Coach Joden get you guys sideline passes? We don't want to bother him because he's a busy guy, and we don't want to be that friend that hits him up. He's like, hey, oh, we need passes, coach.
No, I actually didn't because to me, it was more important to keep that possibility of a post-game interview

than be on the sidelines.

Also, we don't accept gifts from programs because we're capital J journalists.

We don't want to show up to an interview at the number one sports podcast

in an LSU jumpsuit showing our bias for the LSU jumpsuit.

Yeah, no, that's all right.

Yeah, you held it up.

You didn't want to change.

There's also a podcast, which is an audio format. Look at the shirt.
Oh, what's the shirt say? It says SEC or bust. Wow.
Oh, South Carolina Dabo. Nice.
Great. Look at that.
Dabo. Great.
Oh, that's awesome. All right, so CK question.
Give me the final prediction. you hate South Carolina? No, I don't.
I actually don't.

I think it's an inferior Carolina.

No, I went to – Why?

North Carolina is better than South Carolina.

The color is at UNC.

You got the Outer Banks, first in flight, better license plate, better barbecue,

better research triangle.

Better rap songs.

Best barbecue I've had is in Clemson, though.

So, I like Clemson.

We went there for the Texas A&M game early in the year. Oh, we forgot about that.
Very fun time. Very fun time.
Very good time. I mean, I'm just very much biased towards Coach O.
We're in a 60 minute war. I'm not about to be nice and hold hands with Clemson before the national title game.
So give us final prediction and also your best bet. Because I know you went through all the props too.
Yeah. So we talked about earlier, obviously, I think Clemson is going to hang around.
I think they have the offensive capability to do that. I'm still – LSU's defense has been great since they got back healthy.
I mean, they had like five or six legit injuries after that Texas game, which was week two, and it took them eight, nine weeks to get back. But Lawrence, the receivers, ETN is incredible.
I think Clemson hangs around, maybe goes up early, but I see LSU winning 36-33. Clemson covers.
So what's the over-under at right now? 69 and a half. So you're're a jerk.
Yeah. That's a jerk move because when it finishes right around the total that Vegas already set you can be like told you would be right around.
Yeah, you have it right around the number around the total. For both in the 40s.
Yeah. Okay.
Close. Yeah.
Do you see in any possibility in any world this game being played in the 20s? No. Okay.
That's all it actually is the turn that's true good point decade good point uh also i want to get slapped in the face somewhere on bourbon street after i take a shot you know those those bars where they hit you yeah i want to get domed on bourbon street do you have a suggestion razzos razzos yes get slapped you so you've got slapped definitely no i have not you've seen yeah way too fast do you want to do that? Do you want to do that again and think a little bit more so it makes it seem like you haven't been slapped? Sorry. I like how it opens up in the back.
Coolers are right there. Easy access.
The biggest problem with bourbon is bathrooms. Yeah, that's true.
What about, can't you just go to the street what about diaper I might dipe up

what about wings

where we're eating

wings tomorrow

shout out Mark Titus

huge beta

I did not do my homework

for that

still PFT was actually

in Hong Kong

when that happened

and for

Titus I think

talked about it

on his podcast

we never talked about it

here

when we were at the

final four in Minneapolis

are you guys talking

since the Ohio State game

well no

which Ohio State game Thank you. talked about it on his podcast we never talked about here nerd when we were at the final four in minneapolis are you guys talking since the ohio state game uh well no which ohio state game ohio state has not won a basketball game this century or this decade it's pretty tough for him but anyway steve and i and mark we were all at the bar in minneapolis and we were talking we're like where are we going to get wings tomorrow and titus thought that that was like an outrageous thing to discuss being like hey want to go get wings tomorrow he said it was like too alpha for him so i don't know he's been giving a shit ever since he was intimidated by the fact that it was we were making a yeah a guy date for lunch we're gonna get some wings tomorrow yeah we were like hey let's get some wings very beta move right i just to get intimidated by right it's like dude that's how guys say hi to each tomorrow? Yeah, like, let's go get some wings.
You want some? You want the drum? You do the drumsticks. I'll do the flats.
Yeah, I just need a place that's got spicy wings and room temperature Coors Light. So are we getting wings tomorrow? Sure.
Is there a place that you love? Wings? Not really. Okay.
So maybe we'll see. No, we don't.
Fried chicken. Let's not get wings here.
We'll go Willie Mays or we'll go to Menchu's. Okay.
Or some gumbo, maybe. And also, can people please do.
Nine bowls. Get slapped in my face.
You have to be. So you're moving to D.C.
soon. Yes.
It's a big move. Congratulations to you and Scott.
That's great. Are you going to miss the pizza, though? I would imagine that's the hardest part about moving.
Absolutely. Somebody's knocking on the door.
Come on in. Oh.
Who's here? I think I know who it is. I think it's our friend Chris Long.
Hey, what's up, our friend Chris Long? Jean Jacket. What's up, buddy? How are you? Hey, dude.
Sorry, Chris. We're not smoking any doobies right now.
Come on in. Recording a podcast.
We're literally finishing up the big interview with Stanford Steve. Good to see you.
Here, sit down and have a mic. Unexpected guest, Chris Long.

Go ahead.

You sit down.

Sit down.

You sit down.

Share a mic.

Okay, we got 22 more yards for Carlos.

So you're moving.

I don't think they're going to have another rushing attack.

How mad is Hank right now?

Very mad.

We're the douchebags.

Everyone's got a podcast.

All right, we're going to end this.

Steve, thank you very much.

Justin Ross over receiving yards. Amari Rogers over receiving yards.
Allaire under we're going to end this. Steve, thank you very much.
Justin Ross over receiving yards.

Amari Rogers over receiving yards.

Allaire under rush yards.

There it is.

Okay.

There it is.

And maybe we'll have Chris Long on maybe tomorrow for Wednesday.

We'll see.

You didn't thank me for my appearance on this podcast.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you, Chris, for being on this podcast.

Parents speak.

Parents speak.

Yeah, we'll put you in the cup.

That's another reason Chris came in New Orleans.

All right.

Thank you, Steve'll put you in the car. That's the reason Chris came in New Orleans.
All right. Thank you, Steve.

Love you guys. Hold that.
Hold that. Hold that.

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Chicago.

Coach.

Got it in the bayou. We'll see you next time.
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