The Bears Are Back, Lindsey Vonn, CFB With Tom Fornelli + Week 14 Preview
The Bears are officially back. Mitch Trubisky played the game of his life and the Cowboys are dead. Recapping Thursday night football (2:27 - 14:46). NFL Week 14 preview, it's officially "Just How Good Are They?" Weekend. Picks and breakdowns of all the important games (14:46 - 34:39). Fantasy Fuccbois (34:39 - 38:21). CFB Writer Tom Fornelli joins the show to break down Championship Saturday, who will make it into the Playoffs, why Utah gets disrespect, and his lock of the week (38:21 - 66:21). Gold Medalist Lindsey Vonn joins the show to talk about her new documentary and post ski life (66:21 - 80:17). Segments include Fyre Fest of the Week, trouble in paradise, Explain it to Hank the Mets new owner, kings stay kings Stephen A Smith and FAQ's
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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have a twofer, our good friend Tom Fernelli, to talk about the college football championship Saturday how the playoffs are going to shake out maybe a lock a little locky lock for you we also have Lindsay Vaughan Olympic gold medalist skier on the next chapter of her life we have a full NFL week 14 preview we have firefest we have fantasy fuck boys it's a full-on Friday show what do you what do you say hank i also have a pick for leraldo oh leraldo Can you give us a hint?
Speaker 1 Leraldo.
Speaker 3 I can. A hint would be.
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And the Bears are back. Congratulations.
I was so happy.
Speaker 1 Watching Big Cat watch this game is very exciting for me because you're lighting up like a Christmas tree, like a beautiful Fraser fur. Oh, so much pain and angst from this season.
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Finally, the 2018 Bears have entered the chat. That was Mitch Trubisky is playing with confidence.
That Detroit game, I'm telling you, and I know everyone's like, oh, it's Detroit. Oh, it's the
Speaker 1 Cowboys. Their defense thinks too.
Speaker 1 Mitch is...
Speaker 1 I'm not going to go so far as to look into the future, but what I'm going to say about here and now, when he's playing with confidence, different guy.
Speaker 1 Even his interception was good because he pinned him at the one. Yeah, and we got the ball right back and then scored.
Speaker 1
His confidence, his decision-making, Matt Nagy, it's a chicken and egg. Matt Nagy's play calling has been phenomenal in the last two games.
The defense is flying around the field.
Speaker 1
Akeem Hicks is coming back next week. I'm starting to get feelings.
I'm happy for once that I actually let myself fall for the Bears. Before this game, you guys heard me all week.
Speaker 1
I was talking about it. I was like, I love the Bears on Thursday night.
I love the Bears on Thursday night. I think they're going to win.
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And I think that it's going to be, you know, the Packers next week is going to be the biggest game of the season. And they didn't let me down.
Sometimes it's good to let your guard down a little bit.
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You didn't let me down. Expose yourself emotionally.
Once in a while, the universe will give you a little treat. So I was glad to see it.
And I must admit, I was invested as well. I bet on the Bears.
Speaker 1 And the fact that the Cowboys lost astronomically increases the Redskins' chances of winning the NFC East
Speaker 1 by 7-9 from, I think, 0.5%
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to 0.9%. Wow.
So we're still in this. Huge.
We are in the hunt officially. I wonder what the Bears' percentage is because it was 3% going into this game.
Full disclosure, I just made those up for me.
Speaker 1 So I'm going to say the Bears now have a 75% chance of making the playoffs. That's right.
Speaker 3 NFC East is now a combined 15 for 33.
Speaker 1
Wow. Well, you know why? It's because we beat each other up.
Yeah. It's a tough division.
Speaker 1 All those interdivisional games, they leave you banged up the next week and you lose to some teams that you shouldn't.
Speaker 1 Okay, now, before we shit on the Cowboys, because they deserve to be shit on a lot,
Speaker 1 let me just talk for like one more minute about how awesome that Bears win was because Mitch, I mean, come on. The jerseys.
Speaker 1 The jerseys, the helmets, 1997 Camry,
Speaker 1
not so funny now, guys. That's the grittiness that we needed.
No, he looks confident. He looks healthy.
And I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1
I know people are going to make the joke. Well, now you have to, you know, now it's another year, Mitch.
I'm okay with that. He's football young.
Late bloomer. That's true.
Late bloomer.
Speaker 1
I actually read an interesting stat today. It was sent to me by Professor Chuck Cuck.
That seems like a very prestigious title. But Lamar Jackson is probably going to be the MVP, right?
Speaker 1
Joe Burrow is likely going to be the Heisman. This, I think, would be the first year that the Heisman winner would be older than the NFL MVP.
Whoa.
Speaker 1
And what does that have to do with what we were talking about? Lamar is NFL young, too. Got it.
Yeah, but Mitch is very NFL young. He only threw, what, like, he played 13 games in college? Yeah.
Speaker 1
So he's basically, this is his rookie year. Some goal doesn't even count.
This is his rookie year right now. Yeah.
And he looks good. He feels confident.
That first pick was a terrible pick.
Speaker 1 And Mitch of old, pre-Lions Mitch, would probably have that derail him into a phantom injury that Matt Nagy has to bench him and throw him under the bus. Maybe that was the change.
Speaker 1 Maybe it was Matt Nagy benching him with no injury that lit a spark. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Matt Nagy tries to take credit for that.
Speaker 1 Like, hey, remember that hip injury that I lied to you about? No, no. It was a lie.
Speaker 1
I think that what we can give Matt Nagy credit for is he gave Mitch Trubisky one extra series of rest, which has made all the difference. Right.
So recovering in the season.
Speaker 1 For recovering, he recovered from that injury because he had that one series of rest, and his hip looks great. Here's a little spin zone about it.
Speaker 1 His touchdown passes one rush TD in the last two games.
Speaker 1 His interceptions, you can do like a spin zone on those because I think he just throws a sticky ball. I think he throws a very catchable ball.
Speaker 1
One of his touchdown passes just like stuck in his receiver's chest. Yeah, he just tonight.
And it works the same way for the defense.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm happy for him because I don't think there's anyone on the internet who gets shit on more than Mitch Trubisky right now in terms of sports, right? Like he has gotten dragged.
Speaker 1
And I've done a lot of the dragging. My hand is up.
I've said many times when he's bad, I'm telling you he's bad. But to see him happy, to see his teammates hugging him, I feel good for him.
Speaker 1
What are you going to say, Hank? You got someone else? I actually think he might be this season. This season, I think he's been shit on more than any other player.
Yeah, I'm going through the list.
Speaker 1 I would say, like, Cam Newton, when he wears an outfit after a loss, but it still isn't like, it still isn't like what Mitch has gotten because he's gotten it from Mitch is in that rare thing where it's not only fans of other teams shitting on him, but analysts shit on him, too.
Speaker 1
It's because of the whole graphic that you can pull up with Kevin Watson. Of course, it's always going to be that.
But the Bears are back next week, Green Bay. So,
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the flip side, thank you. The flip side: the Cowboys are a dumpster fire, are a joke, have quit, look like they didn't want to be out there.
They score early in the game.
Speaker 1 They 13-play drive to start the game, and I was like, okay, we're fucked. And they basically, I actually jokingly tweeted that that was savvy by the Bears to make the Cowboys use all their good plays.
Speaker 1 Little did I know that was actually true. They used all their good plays in the 13-play drive to start the game, and they sucked for the rest of the game.
Speaker 1 And somehow, as bad as they are, they're still in first place. It actually reminded me a little bit of a Bears' offense, the way that they ran.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so they came out swinging, and then they did absolutely nothing from that point on.
Speaker 1 I don't like Jerry Jones. I don't like shots of Jerry Jones outside of his stadium in Dallas.
Speaker 1 It doesn't look natural when he's in like a visiting team's owner's suite, and they put him up, and there's usually no glass there.
Speaker 1 He doesn't have his glasses cleaning boy next to him, ready to scrub off his lenses at a moment's notice. I like seeing him in his native environment.
Speaker 1
I would like to see Jerry Jones watch every game from his perch in Dallas. Yeah.
And then they have a live feed of that. But yeah, he looks really upset.
Speaker 1 He's not going to fire Jason Garrett this season. Well,
Speaker 1 so this is as close to rock bottom as you can get because you're using Demitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Well, yeah. I mean, the Bears, they made the Bears' offense look, that was the best game the Bears offense played all season.
Speaker 1 The defense, like you can tell, especially late in the NFL season, when guys just don't want to tackle anymore. And they're like, nah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1
Like, the business decision, I mean, Tractor Cito will get to the weekend preview. Derrick Henry does that to basically everyone he plays.
So
Speaker 1 it's a very weird situation where if they were in any other division, I think that Jerry Jones would have fired Jason Garrett by now.
Speaker 1 But because they're still in first place and still control their own destiny, you can't fire him. But this is as rock bottom as it gets for a team that can still go to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 It's funny because I think that the Cowboys, I think that there's a chance that they could win the division if they go 6-10, which is what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 1 If it's not going to be the Redskins that sneak their way in. I don't think that's possible.
Speaker 1
I think it is. I think if they beat the...
What's the record right now? Well, they're 6-7,
Speaker 1 and they still have to play the Eagles. So if the Eagles beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 They would be 6. And
Speaker 1 I don't know how the tiebreakers work.
Speaker 1 But the Eagles or the Cowboys could make
Speaker 1
one of them could, if they both end up at 6-10. I think it's technically impossible to make the playoffs 6-10, is it not? I don't know.
I don't know how math works, really.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know why you put this down the screen.
Speaker 3 I'm just a person in your division. I know that.
Speaker 1 I know that.
Speaker 1 You got to beat who you play.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't know why you did that to my brain because now I'm not going to be able to get off that. But that'd be amazing.
It would be cool to see that grass.
Speaker 5 You technically can.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess wouldn't it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they definitely.
Speaker 1 I guess if
Speaker 1
the Eagles beat the Cowboys and then they get to six wins and they all both lose out. I don't know.
I don't know. Are we as a nation going to talk about Troy Aikman's hoodie that he's wearing?
Speaker 1
I don't like casual Troy. These guys are really taking the job.
And Joe Buck, we're talking to you too. I thought it was Jay-Z.
He is really, they're really kind of chilling out late in the season.
Speaker 1 They're wearing sweaters.
Speaker 1 The hood.
Speaker 1 The hood? The hood.
Speaker 1 He does look like he's going to hand you a mixtape. You know what's funny?
Speaker 3 It looks like a fashion like Yeezy season six. Well,
Speaker 1 it's funny that you say that, Hank, because I'm of the mindset, like, when you see a sports center anchor in a full suit, you're like, dude, you're not a banker. Who the fuck cares?
Speaker 1
Like, you're not a lawyer. And then you get the reverse, where Troy Aikman shows up to Thursday Night Football in a hood, and you're like, have some fucking class, man.
Like, this is disrespectful.
Speaker 1 So I don't know why that is in our brains, but yeah, he looks like a schlump. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1 I'm shocked every time I tune into Fox NFL Sunday, and Troy Aikman and Jimmy Johnson are actually wearing shirts. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I always expect, I've never seen it before, but for some reason, whenever they cut back to the studio, I always assume at some point the boys are just going to be shirtless, just like wrestling each other, and Kurt Minafe is going to be, like, have his chest painted.
Speaker 1 It's, it's, uh, I guess they get a pass because they still have to travel and do a game on Sunday, so Thursday night is like, you know, it's casual. Yeah, it's casual Thursday night.
Speaker 1
It's like casual Friday kind of thing. They're doing color rush right now.
And then they got to hop on a plane. And
Speaker 1
I think their game this week is Chiefs Patriots. But yeah, it's...
Come on, Troy. Treat us a little bit better than that.
Speaker 1 Alright, speaking of Chiefs Patriots, let's do our weekend preview, throw out a couple picks that will definitely win.
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Campbell, you ready for a Moneyline parlay?
Speaker 3 Ready for Larry's three other picks?
Speaker 1 Yeah, go for them.
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Speaker 3 Grit week 2019.
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Saints. Did we do that? No, that was last year.
2019 Grit Week. Chiefs.
Chiefs.
Speaker 1 Wait, what was that noise? That was Mahomes. Do it again.
Speaker 1
Yeah, there you go. You got it.
Hanks is so much better than me. All right, you ready for my can't-lose parlay, which might have lost last week.
Yeah. I have the Bucs.
I think the Bucs are spicy.
Speaker 1 I think the Bucs are very spicy. I also think they match up perfectly with the Colts because the Bucs have the best rush D in the NFL.
Speaker 1 So I'm taking them straight, like minus three, do it, but this is the money line.
Speaker 1
Best rush D in the NFL. The Colts, I don't think T.Y.
Hilton's playing. They're kind of a mess.
They're spiraling a little bit.
Speaker 1 I have the Packers against the Redskins, and I have the Vikings against the Lions. Okay.
Speaker 1 So really, it's just the Bucs. Well,
Speaker 1
listen, I'll put my hand up. My can't-lose parlay does not do well most weeks.
Usually, one or maybe even two of these teams lose. And it would be a real shame if the Packers or the Vikings lost.
Speaker 1
I think that's nice. So you're like emotionally hedging that.
I respect that. It would be a real shame if I put
Speaker 1 the teams I need to lose for the Bears to get back in the playoff race for them to actually lose. Let me give you a real shame.
Speaker 1 Let me give you a little bit of a tease on why the Vikings might lose against the Detroit Lions. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Well, you said it, not me, because Sloater Revenge game. So he was
Speaker 3 literally written down.
Speaker 1
He was cut by it. It was Sloan's Revenge.
Yes, it is Sloater's Revenge.
Speaker 1 And also, maybe this is kind of like that Buffalo Bills game against Minnesota last year where they were favored by 16 and they lost.
Speaker 1 Listen,
Speaker 1
cocky Minnesota fans, I don't understand you. I had a couple of my mentions be like, Kirk Cousins is so much better than Mitch.
Fine. Not the new Mitch.
Not the new Mitch.
Speaker 1 And the Vikings, what in the Vikings history has told them that they should be confident? Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1
ever. Kirk Cousins is football old.
Yeah, I'm just saying. Yeah, he has no room for improvement.
It's also a real shame if the Vikings or the Packers lost.
Speaker 1 One issue, somebody on the Vikings apologized this week.
Speaker 1 I forget who it was. So the apologies are back.
Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Xavier Rhodes. Yeah, Xavier Rhodes apologized
Speaker 1 for
Speaker 1
sucking, which is what Kirk Cousins is. But he's sucked for like a year and a half.
Yeah, I think they've apologized too much. I'm sorry, but I'll say it.
The Vikings apologized too much.
Speaker 1 They're close to Canada, so they're just doing the sorry all the time. So that's my can't lose parlay.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry, guys, but the Bears are back. Okay, let's talk about some games.
I actually have dubbed this PFT working title, pending your approval. It's the just how good are they weekend.
Speaker 1
Okay, because there's no loser leaves town. No loser leaves town.
It's the just how good are they weekend.
Speaker 1 I think this weekend, week 14, is going to be fascinating because there are some really good games, and we're going to walk away on Sunday night being like, okay, this team ready to roll.
Speaker 1 This team, maybe some questions. So we'll start
Speaker 1 Ravens at Bills. That's a just how good are they? Because if the Ravens roll, the Ravens are in, like, holy fuck, no one can stop them.
Speaker 1 And if the Bills win, now the Bills are not only very, very legit, but don't look now, they will be playing for the AFC East when they play the Patriots in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 Can I just put this out here, and we have not discussed this yet, but if the Bills get a home playoff game, do you want to go to it? Yeah, for sure. I think you should.
Speaker 1
Well, as long as it's not the same day as the Bears home playoff game. Oh, no, the Bears play on the.
No, actually, no, we might win the NFC North. Yeah, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1
I would love to go to the damn, my heart is going to be a good one. I would love to go to a playoff game in Buffalo, New York.
How insane would that be? It'd be crazy.
Speaker 1 This is one of those games where it's
Speaker 1
being talked about right now as being. Yeah, yeah, we don't have to go to the game.
No, because I don't want to take tillgets from any Die Hard Bills fan.
Speaker 1 I want to watch the game next to a trash can fire and a TV and just keep like slurping chili and mad dogs. And I want to write an entire column on that one Bills fan's stomach, the shirtless guy.
Speaker 1 Yes, we will be there. This is like it happens five times a year, but this is the biggest game in Buffalo Bills' history
Speaker 1
this weekend. So I think that they can slow the Ravens down.
I don't think that they're going to beat the Ravens. Well, PFT, what we have here is
Speaker 1 two teams that practice against mobile quarterbacks. It's very true.
Speaker 1 That's very true. So the Bills defense practices against Josh Allen, probably.
Speaker 1 I mean, now Lamar Jackson is obviously a lot more shifty and a lot, you know, faster than Josh Allen, but Josh Allen's taller. Josh Allen can move, so they're a little used to it.
Speaker 1
And same with the Ravens. They're used to, you know, practicing against a mobile quarterback.
Could we have an under because everyone knows everyone's moves?
Speaker 1
Just saying. I actually am taking the under.
Yeah, I like that. Same thing.
I like that. All right.
The other, the the next, the next just how good are they game? 49ers going to the Saints.
Speaker 1 49ers have had a gauntlet of a schedule, but this is a game that if they go in there and win, I think they're back to that, okay, they're the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 1 And if the Saints win, because I think the Saints are one of those weird teams, I put the Seahawks in this group where their schedule, or sorry, their record is very, very good, but you can still look, depending on how you look at them, you're like, huh, there's some things that just seem a little off that that might not be showing up like in the third week in January.
Speaker 1
And the 49ers did a weird thing where they didn't go home this week. I love that.
They practiced in Florida, which I don't, like, that's not that close to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 Yeah, if you're on the panhandle.
Speaker 1 Yeah, if they practice at Florida State, if they practice at Tallahassee, then I can, I guess, see it. But they decided to stay on the East Coast and practiced in the...
Speaker 1 They're going to play in a dome, so I don't really, I don't know what Cal Shannon is doing. I think you'd have to do that travel.
Speaker 1
He didn't want to fly back. Yeah.
Yeah, I get that. Flying across the country sucks ass.
Body clock. Yeah, body clock is.
It's a body clock game.
Speaker 1 So, yeah, I'm actually going to go with the Saints on this one.
Speaker 1
I don't think that the Niners. I love the Niners here.
I don't know. I love, love, love the Niners.
I don't like the Niners in the dome. The uniforms are not dome uniforms.
Speaker 1 I love, love, love the Niners.
Speaker 1 Although, I'll always think like when the Saints are playing against the 49ers at home, I'll think about that one hit that Drew Brees took like five years ago where it looked like his neck popped off.
Speaker 1
You remember that? Yeah. He had Stretch Armstrong.
Yeah, Stretch Armstrong's gumby neck. Yeah.
No,
Speaker 1 I love the 49ers in this game.
Speaker 1
I think they match up perfectly with the Saints. The next, just how good are they, game? Chiefs at Patriots.
Hank?
Speaker 3 This is my emotionally, I'm just going to go all in, all the way in on the Patriots.
Speaker 3 They're either going to blow this game out or if they lose, I'm going to start to emotionally prepare myself for maybe a disappointing end of the season.
Speaker 3 But if they win, the Patriots all the way back,
Speaker 1 three Pete.
Speaker 1 What has to happen for Tom Brady to start gaining more confidence in his wide receivers, Hank?
Speaker 1 What did you say?
Speaker 1 The whole storyline about Tom Brady not having confidence in his wide receivers, are you buying that? Because he gave them quite a warm-up speech. We didn't talk about that, actually, on the show.
Speaker 1 The pump-up speech that he gave him on the sidelines, where he spent like 30 seconds just saying, like, come on.
Speaker 1 It was like the Russell Wilson mic'd up, but he was just like on the bench just saying it to no one in particular.
Speaker 1 But he doesn't trust his wide receivers, is what I'm getting at, with the exception of John. Would you?
Speaker 1 No. Just because I don't trust wide receivers in general unless they're wearing numbers in the 80s.
Speaker 3 It's one of those things, though. It's like you've got to hit rock bottom before you can climb all the way back up.
Speaker 3 All the Patriots receivers know that they're fucking up and that they're going to go extra hard to make sure they do what they got to do to win those games.
Speaker 1
It's also so apparent how badly they just need a good tight end. Yeah.
I mean, the Bears tonight, they had a competent tight end and everything looks different.
Speaker 1 Do you think that Belichick told his son to go out in front of the media and to talk exactly like him to get the storylines all talking about how he sounds exactly like his dad instead of talking about actual on-the-field stuff?
Speaker 1 Can we put that audio in? This is Steve Belichick answering questions, and we have cloned the human brain together.
Speaker 7
I don't know. I haven't really thought about how it correlates.
It's just trying to do my thing, and I think that that's what's best. So that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 Steve Phil asked you about the chores. Do you have a memory of your first football chore or one of your first football chores that he asked you to do?
Speaker 7 Yeah, I got a couple memories.
Speaker 7 Anyone should.
Speaker 7 Yeah,
Speaker 7 between me and him.
Speaker 1 It was.
Speaker 1 I'm actually happy that we put this in the podcast because
Speaker 1 if you watch the video, you're like, okay, this doesn't work. This guy looks like dressed up PFT.
Speaker 1 He looks nothing like me.
Speaker 1
But his voice, the cadence, everything. It's crazy.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't be surprised if... His dad was like, hey, just go out and provide a little distraction for us.
Just like do an impression.
Speaker 1 Because it did sound like something that a rookie would do during training camp when they have like impression day and like the talent show where somebody gets up there and in this case he looks like he's um an emaciated punter that stands up in front of the media and just starts doing an impression of the head coach and it was spot on it was spot on i don't know if it's an accent like you know you grow up in certain parts of the country you talk like everybody around you like he just grew up watching film with his dad so he just talked exactly like well that was the best part when when they're like can you tell us one of the you know memories you had with your dad and he had that little smile
Speaker 1 he's like no i'm gonna keep that
Speaker 1 with me and my dad.
Speaker 3 That's where it's like, you think I just imagine like Bill and Steve sitting in a room just like
Speaker 3 pounding beers down, laughing at like when, you know, Steve, when they ask you these questions, just don't give him any information. Right.
Speaker 3 And they, and they also, they talk like super normally and like project their voice and everything.
Speaker 1
I would imagine, though, they, they, they never say, like, I love you to each other. They just compliment each other's plays.
They're like, I loved this. I loved this design you used.
Speaker 1
Your dad would love that play. I loved what you did with the safety here and the help over here.
Like, that was great. And he's like, yeah, I loved that you love that.
Speaker 1
That's when they catch each other's eyes for a second. They know.
And they shake it off. They're like, back to the place.
No, I think they know. They know what they're saying.
Speaker 1 They just know that they won't say it out loud. Because if you saw the Bill Belichick and Bill Parcel's documentary, the two Bills, they were talking about each other.
Speaker 1 And at the end, they were like, Do you want to tell them that you love him? And they just looked at each other. They're like,
Speaker 1
We say it. We say it without saying it.
Yeah, we know.
Speaker 1
We say it. We certainly know.
Yeah. All right.
Last,
Speaker 1 just how good are they, game? Seahawks Rams. Seahawks Rams.
Speaker 1 If the Seahawks, the Seahawks are a weird team because statistically,
Speaker 1
I think they're barely positive in terms of point differential, and they're 10-2. I'm kind of with that, though.
Like,
Speaker 1 if you're going to lose, you might as well just get blown out. Yeah, but they've, no, but they've been winning every game by only a couple points, it feels like.
Speaker 1
I can't remember. I'm sure I'll get corrected here.
It's late, but it doesn't feel like they blow a ton of teams out. Yeah, they're plus 36 point differential.
Speaker 1
And the San Francisco 49ers are plus 166. Fun stat, the LA Chargers have a positive point differential.
Yeah, I remember you told me that. That is crazy.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks don't blow teams out.
Speaker 1 Their last six games, they won by 7, 8, 3, 6, 7.
Speaker 1 They haven't beaten the team by... They beat the Cardinals 27-10 in week 4.
Speaker 1 That's the only time they've beaten the team by more than a score. So who do you like in this?
Speaker 1 I think the Seahawks are going to win. I think that
Speaker 1 we're opposites. So here's Sean McVay's offenses against the Seahawks the last four times they've played, 29 points, 33 points, 36 points, 42 points.
Speaker 1
The Rams, for whatever reason it is, can figure out how to attack Pete Carroll's defense. So I think that the Rams, this is one of those, the Rams need it more.
The Seahawks are on a short week.
Speaker 1 I think that the Rams are going to show out and win this game. And I love the over.
Speaker 1 The way that I think they would win this game is if Pete Carroll falls in the trap that he falls into like four or five times a year where he gets obsessed with establishing the run and he just tries to run the ball for 3.3 yards per carry for the entire game and doesn't let Russell Wilson throw it.
Speaker 1 He's been letting Russell Wilson throw it more and more recently, but it feels like he's due for one of those games where he's like, no one will respect me if we don't establish the running game.
Speaker 1 Also, the Seahawks,
Speaker 1 I think maybe their center's out. I don't know.
Speaker 1 Someone on their offensive line, Key, is out, and it's just, whenever I see an interior offensive lineman out against Aaron Donald, I'm like, that's a problem. It's going to be an issue.
Speaker 1
That's going to be an issue. So I'll take the Rams in that one.
Let's do some picks.
Speaker 1 Hank, you want to start? Why don't you do your favorite and your underdog, and then we'll do the totals. So we'll go two, two, two, two.
Speaker 3
Favorites, Patriots, emotionally all in. My underdog is the Lions, Sloeders Revenge.
Yes.
Speaker 1 Quickly, what will be your reaction if the Patriots lose? Like, how pant.
Speaker 3
It depends. Okay.
It depends how they lose.
Speaker 3 If they look like they have the last four weeks, then that's where I will emotionally start to get preparations made to be let down in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 You write your living will and testament for the playoffs. What does that look like making preparations for losing in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 You start making the excuse train.
Speaker 3 You start figuring out what the times are and when it's going to roll into town, et cetera, et cetera, and just look for any loopholes and outs that you can cling on to. What's excuse?
Speaker 1 What's excuse number one going to be?
Speaker 1 How can you blame Roger Goodell? Is what I'm asking. How can you blame the NFL for the Patriots' demise this season?
Speaker 3 If they go down that road, well, the fact that they have so many convicted criminals that are still playing and they ostracized a guy like Antonio Brown just for saying comments and stuff on Instagram, that could play a part.
Speaker 1 I think it was, yeah, that's all Antonio Brown did was just Instagram comments. It was just Instagram comments.
Speaker 1 Sneaky, though, I feel like the Patriots are going to win this game, not only because it's just the Patriots win these type of games in Foxborough in December when everyone's kind of down on them, but Patrick Mahomes, he hasn't been Patrick Mahomes recently.
Speaker 1 Do you know?
Speaker 1 Guess how many yards Patrick Mahomes has thrown for in his last two games? It's not a lot. So
Speaker 1 490.
Speaker 1 So I can't count, I can't add, add, but it's less than that because it's 175 yards against the Raiders, 182 yards against the Chargers.
Speaker 3 You're right. He's been sitting on this game, though, ever since he didn't get
Speaker 3 a chance to have a bad game.
Speaker 1 I'm just saying ever since the NFL screwed Patrick Mahomes by not changing the rules in the playoffs for him. Their offense is a good thing.
Speaker 3 Well, no, I'm not saying it's his fault, but you know, that's what he's been thinking about
Speaker 3 since up until this moment.
Speaker 1 It's just one of those things that Patrick Mahomes hasn't looked.
Speaker 1 They scored 40 points last week against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 He threw 175 yards yards and had one touchdown. I'm insane.
Speaker 1 If I'm Andy Reid, I'm not even ⁇ I'm playing my defense with 10 men on the field because I think you can stop them with 10 and you're eliminating the position of your defensive lineman lining up off sides.
Speaker 1
There you go. All right, so you had your favorite in your underdog.
PFT, you do your favorite in your underdog. My favorite is the Patriots.
Okay. Minus three at home.
Speaker 1 I actually agree that this feels like a game that the Patriots, they win, they grind out. It's just
Speaker 1 everything we know as football fans, when people start saying the Patriots are done in December in Foxborough, it seems like this always happens.
Speaker 1 And for some reason, I think of Patrick Mahomes as being a warm weather quarterback, even though he played in Lubbock, which is not necessarily warm, and Kansas City, which is not
Speaker 1
very cold. For some reason, I'm just like, I think it's because he's so good that anytime a great quarterback throws for a shitload of yards, I'm like, oh, he's just a warm weather.
California boy.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
Callie boy Mahomes isn't going to be able to handle the winter weather in Foxborough. So I've got the Patriots minus three at home.
I've got my underdog is the R Words, the Washington R Words. Same.
Speaker 1
Plus 12 and a half. Same.
At Green Bay. They're going to be able to run the ball on the Packers.
That's right. They might even win this game.
Speaker 1
I would love it. All right.
And then, so that's my underdog. My favorite is the Bucs.
I think the Bucs are going to finish 8-8. I do.
Speaker 1
I think Jameis is going to get franchise tagged. I do.
I hope so. I really do.
I think the Bucs, they're going to be one of those teams. I'm calling it right now.
Speaker 1 They're going to be one of those teams that finishes strong, and then next year everyone says, look out for the Bucs. Hank, give us your over and your under.
Speaker 3 Over, I'm going to switch it to the Rams-Seahawks after those stats that you just provided.
Speaker 1 Those are good stats, right? Yep.
Speaker 3 And the under is the Ravens. I hope that the Bills can make them look human.
Speaker 1
Okay. That's a good under.
That is. That's down under.
That is. I actually have the exact same.
So that's a problem for us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 Everything is a problem.
Speaker 1 Everything is a problem.
Speaker 1
So my overage was the Seahawks-Rams. Yeah.
That's probably a problem. That's an issue.
Everything's a problem. And what was
Speaker 3 the first game we talked about that we all agreed on?
Speaker 1
The under and the Ravens. Buzz, you already said that.
Yeah, yeah. No, this is a problem.
This is a problem weekend. Hey, folks.
Speaker 1 This is a weekend where this is a classic
Speaker 1
week 14, 15 every year. You lose everything, and you have to dial back the holiday presents, the Christmas presents.
Maybe people aren't getting the Xbox One this year.
Speaker 1 You know what we're actually doing?
Speaker 1 We're just putting all this on film and on tape so that we can tweet it out next week with how wrong we were and that'll drive a lot of engagement because of how much we blew it no there's always this is i know it so well feast week is a landmine and then this this next couple weeks there'll be one week where everyone will lose not just us everyone will lose every bet and they'll be like you won't believe it every single team that had 30 of the money or less record-setting weekend for vegas yeah right and then everyone's sitting there like okay, now we got to buy what for Christmas?
Speaker 1
My actual under is the Panthers Falcons. My bonus under was the Ravens Bills.
Ooh,
Speaker 1 the
Speaker 1
triple lightning bolt. Panthers, Panthers, Falcons.
Panthers, Falcons. Fired coach poll.
Fired coach, yeah.
Speaker 1
Clee Blakeman is the official. He's the head official in that game.
Yeah, that's that didn't work on Monday. But he's 10-1 on unders on the game.
Owen won in his last one. Owen won his last one.
Speaker 1 He's on a bad streak. So Cleef Blakeman, get your act together, stop all the scoring.
Speaker 1 I do like how Ron Rivera, you got he technically got fired but he spent the week basically like Dan Quinn spends every week they let him give a press conference crazy that he's been hanging around the facility and then there he's one of he's a big guy where you you talk about him in the media and you have to say great coach even better human being yeah and he yeah everyone is like
Speaker 1 he'll have a lot of suitors okay cool
Speaker 1 i mean we're we're not there yet but okay yeah he it was very bizarre he came he basically gave like a speech on why he should be hired Yeah, they let him do an infomercial. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1
So I guess maybe that would be the new norm. I would like that.
Didn't they do that with Mike McCarthy when they fired him? They brought him back to give like a pep talk to the team.
Speaker 1 I could see Ron Rivera being invited back as like assistant to the assistant to the head coach this year. Mike McCarthy might be the new coach in Cleveland, right? No, wait, what was Pete Prisco?
Speaker 1 Pete Prisco had an all-time.
Speaker 1
Oh, it was Panthers. He's like Tepper, Pittsburgh guy.
You know who else is a Pittsburgh guy? Every
Speaker 1 single coach
Speaker 1
in the NFL, either Pittsburgh or Eastern Ohio. But also, Mike McCarthy.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
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Speaker 5 What's up, boys?
Speaker 1 It's Paulie Positano. Positano, my man.
Speaker 1
My stodom is strunk dialing. Strunk? Drunk dialing.
Drunk dialing. Disney.
Speaker 1 That spider fuck kid, Tom Holland, drunk dialed Disney to get that Spider-Man brought back to the MCU. So if you're out this weekend and you're thinking about it, do it.
Speaker 3 Okay. It always works out in your favor.
Speaker 1
Don't know what you're talking about. You mash those buttons when you have a couple cocktails.
Next thing you know, your ex is coming over, take her patties off. My situm is math.
Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck numbers.
Speaker 5 All these AWL fucks have been tweeting all these little stats and making me do math in my head and it fucking gave me a headache all day and I just hate it and reminds me of math sucks.
Speaker 1 A number is just a word for somebody that can't tackle. And my sleeper is Steve Belichick.
Speaker 3 I had him as my starter, but then we talked about him right before this, so I put him on my sleeper because the segment went to sleep.
Speaker 1 Thank you, Paulie. That was fucking awesome.
Speaker 5 My name is Florio Florissimo.
Speaker 1
I'm starting this week rugby sevens, the U.S. Rugby Sevens team.
We're 1-0. We are tied for number one in the entire world after one game of this season in the HSBC World Series.
Speaker 1
We're going against Danny Barrett. Stomped the fucking Irish Pete Fog inside the Irish national team.
Scored two tries. Touch them all, Danny.
Touch them all, Daniel.
Speaker 1
I'm sitting Peyton Baba. That's right.
Peyton Baba is taking a seat. Bruce Aarons loves to take away carries from whoever just had a really good game last week.
Speaker 1 So, Peyton Bob, you are going to suck a big toad on Sunday afternoon, baby. Drink, Paint.
Speaker 1 My sleeper is I'm going to put that little piss boy, Adam Schefter, to sleep for going after Mike Greenberg and Mike Greenberg's mom on Mike's own show.
Speaker 1 She's a great mom, Shefty. She took care of Lil Green, kept him safe when he has his minor injuries.
Speaker 1
You pissed me off, Shefty. I'm going to give you another kidney.
So I'm going to take the kidney stone you pissed out last week. I'm going to shove it into your dick with a pipe plate.
Speaker 1 You keep talking about Mike Greenberg like that. We understand? It's on site, Adam.
Speaker 1
All right, what's up? It's Larry Linguini. My stardom is Navy Army uniforms.
The release.
Speaker 1
No, the releases happen. Navy Army uniforms.
They're the coolest uniforms every single year. They get so hyped up.
Speaker 1 Navy.
Speaker 1 They look like the fucking Rami.
Speaker 1
No originality. Support that back.
I love that.
Speaker 1
Take that back right now. Navy Zunis suck.
Take that back right now. They suck.
Speaker 1 I disavow. My sleep fucking super.
Speaker 1 Sinem is Doug Gottlieb. That stupid fuck Doug Gottlieb said
Speaker 1
our friend Greg Kettle can't block for shit. He's like the best blocking tight end in the league.
What the fuck? What the fuck, Dougie?
Speaker 1
He also had a tweet that was up for 24 hours and had one like zero retweet. Oh no.
One like
Speaker 1
a life. Oh like.
He didn't even need a wrap for his likes. A sleeper is LeBron James.
He's just walking around the court, walking all over the world.
Speaker 1
LeBron James doesn't give a fuck that he took his shoes off and pretended to die on the court. LeBron James, you put me to sleep.
Live, laugh, LeBron. Oh, man.
Speaker 1 That broke the record, by the way. LeBron's travel, which was hilarious, broke the record for
Speaker 3 the most embarrassing moment on the basketball court.
Speaker 1 He said that? Yeah.
Speaker 1 He took responsibility. I would say when he showed his penis.
Speaker 1 I would say when he quit on the Cavs like 15 different times.
Speaker 3 He He was losing to the Spurs and 40 cramps.
Speaker 1 I would say Velante West slept with his mom. When he scored eight points in an NBA final game against Dallas.
Speaker 3 Walked off the court before the Warriors game ended and then said he had a broken hand.
Speaker 1 Yeah, when that lady called him a bitch. When he sat at the end of the bench and just looked at all the teammates that he wanted to trade and then didn't even trade most of them.
Speaker 1
And when he went three and six in the NBA Finals. When he had that hairline.
Yep.
Speaker 1
Yep. All these things.
All these things.
Speaker 1 Good for him, though. Taking
Speaker 1
It was a very, very funny thing. It was very funny, but it broke the record for the amount of people saying, this is why I don't watch the NBA anymore.
It's true.
Speaker 1 It's like, really, that's why you don't watch it because he traveled for one second.
Speaker 3 And James Hard thing was more egregious. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I mean,
Speaker 1 I cannot stand people who are like, this is why I don't watch the NBA.
Speaker 1
Because you still do watch the NBA. Or if you don't, it's for other reasons besides just.
This is why I watch college basketball. They don't travel in college basketball.
They just airball threes.
Speaker 1 Right, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1 score 40 points in, you know, the over-under for Virginia Purdue, by the way. 100 was electric to watch.
Speaker 1 You had pup punk, but it was so much fun. I saw the under at 100, and I was considering taking the under because to me, that's just as exhilarating as taking that under.
Speaker 1 No, it was awesome because they like every three felt like a million points. And it was so easy to keep track of.
Speaker 3
I loved it. So easy.
Talk about my hatred for math.
Speaker 1 Did you see LeBron's Instagram post that he put up? What? Where he like he was saying,
Speaker 1 people are making fun of me because I'm showing love and joy for my team.
Speaker 1 Because in the fourth quarter of that game, he walked onto the court with his shoes off because he's giving his shoes away or he'd like thrown them at a kid like the cameraman threw at George Bush or whatever.
Speaker 1 I don't know exactly how he gave the shoes to the fan, but he was on the court, shoeless, like jumping around celebrating his team.
Speaker 1
He wrote an Instagram post saying, Oh, I'm sorry, I guess it's bad for me to be supportive of my teammates. And then he ended it by saying, Live, live, laugh, love.
Love it. Love it.
Speaker 1
He jacked up everyone's girlfriend's AIM instant messenger profile from 1999. The wood boards that you put in your kitchen from Target.
Yep. Like, hey, live, laugh, love.
Speaker 1 One last thing before we get to our interviews. Your man Greene.
Speaker 1
He's a wuss. Excuse me? He's a wuss.
Why?
Speaker 1 Because he showed strength in not attacking Adam Schaff.
Speaker 1
It takes more strength to not go after someone that's just insulted your mom. He just ate that thing.
He ate it. Like, all he had to say was, like, he had to just do one of two things.
Speaker 1
One, he could have been like, that's totally offensive and out of line. My mother's a great woman.
And watch Shefty be a wuss and then be like, just kidding. Or do the, my mom died last year.
Speaker 1 And watch Shefty cry and then be like, ha, not.
Speaker 1
She's alive. Just kidding.
You don't actually know. About his mom.
I don't care.
Speaker 1
That's the way you handle that. If Trey Wingo was there, he would have said, Mrs.
Greenberg is a saint.
Speaker 1
It's how you handle that. Yeah.
You'd say, how you handle that? So he was just disappointed in Greenie. When Schefter
Speaker 1
burns you, you're dumb. Do you agree? Disappointed in Greenie.
No, yes.
Speaker 3 You can't be disappointed in exactly what you expect.
Speaker 1 Because Greenie, Greenie, what if Greenie had responded with, like, keep my mom's name off your lips, or I'm going to smack it out of there? Yeah. Like, you would have been cool with that?
Speaker 1
I would have been cool with anything. Like, Schefter is the bottom of the alpha beta scale, and he just alphaed you on your own show.
it's over.
Speaker 1
Greeny can stand up to Chefty. The beauty of Mike Greenberg is that he is an unapologetic beta, and that's why I love him so very deeply.
Like, you don't get that on television a lot.
Speaker 1
Is someone who's like, I'm a dork. Chef is too.
I'm a dork. I did a show with a jock, and I was a nerd, and that was my role.
It's going to be little M, Mike.
Speaker 1
He's fresh meat now. Everyone's going to take now.
The Chefty's made it okay. Uh-huh.
So everyone's going to be taking their shots at Greeny.
Speaker 1
So, what Greenie has to do next week on Get Up is he's got to go to the biggest dude on the show and punch him in the face or like attack him. Who would that be? Like, Marcus Spears? Yeah.
He's just.
Speaker 1
He's called Marcus Spears a fat ass? Or all he could do is just shush Dan Orlovsky once. Just say end zone.
No, Dan Orlovsky just yells really loud. Yeah.
Have you heard his voice? I have.
Speaker 1 As a guy who has a loud voice, I feel bad for him because I know it's an affliction some of us have.
Speaker 1
I like honestly feel bad because I know I watch him sometimes and I'm like, he can't control the volume of his voice. I have that same thing.
He also has a a peaky blonders haircut. Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 They call that
Speaker 1 the nipster. The nipster?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Was that Nazi hipster? Okay.
The Richard Spencer.
Speaker 1
That's not what he is. No.
I'm just saying that style of hair. It's like a more aggressive McLemore.
Yeah. A McLemore with an iron cross tattoo on his shoulder.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so either way, Dan Orlofsky, dude, I feel your pain.
Speaker 1 We should have like a support group for guys who can't control the volume of their voice because I'm the same way. Voice modulation.
Speaker 1 Are we going to talk at all about what's happening on Monday night? Oh, I feel like we should address this.
Speaker 1 Well, we should, I mean, we'll talk about it on Sunday before to preview Monday, but yes, Eli is back.
Speaker 5 Yes, Eli is back.
Speaker 1 Maybe.
Speaker 1
It's not official. I think he's back.
It's not official. He should be back.
Right.
Speaker 3 Oh, like the Titans probably realized the reaction that it got, and they're like, now we have to do it.
Speaker 1
Right. I need to be fully official to let my heart really fall into it, but this is just Archie being Archie.
Yeah,
Speaker 1 he probably pulled some strings, but
Speaker 1 He probably Ken Shamrocked Daniel Jones' ankle in the parking lot. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1
if Archie actually got his hands dirty. Eli Manning is now more than ever the Forrest Gump of the NFL.
He just keeps showing up
Speaker 1
in the historical moments. I'm very excited to see him throw like four touchdowns.
I'm excited to see the Giants go on a winning.
Speaker 1 I know it's mathematically impossible for the Giants to make the playoffs, but the winner of the NFC East should do the right thing and give their spot to the Giants if Eli is starting.
Speaker 1 The problem is, he's 116 and 116 as a starter.
Speaker 1 So there are four more games left. If he wins this game on Monday, they have to do the right thing and never play him again.
Speaker 1
If he loses this game, they have to play Eli Manning until he gets back over 500, even if that means five more years. Yeah.
That's really what it comes down to. I mean, yes, please.
Speaker 1 Five more years of Eli Manning. You know how many fake game-worn clothes that Eli is going to be able to peddle in the world?
Speaker 1 Eli just, or Archie just wants to get just a couple more games closer to Arch Manning being in the NFL.
Speaker 1 Because we can't have,
Speaker 1 what is it? What was the old, there's always got to be a snow and
Speaker 1
stark in Winterfeld. There's always got to be a Manning in the NFL.
What do you think Eli's move is when he retires?
Speaker 1 Because everyone, when Peyton retired, they're like, he's either going to be a coach or he's going to go on TV, do something in the media. What's Eli?
Speaker 1
I think he's just going to walk around streets with his mouth open. I think he's going to esports.
Esports? He's going to become a Twitch streamer?
Speaker 3 Like an owner or something.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
I could see him just sitting on his couch and staring at the DVD screensaver for a few weeks. Yeah, no, he's not going to do much.
He's going to just kind of hang out or hang out.
Speaker 1 One of those things.
Speaker 1 I would imagine he'd, you know, drives.
Speaker 1 He probably would drive his kids to school every day and then go and maybe force like a few people to play receiver for him while he throws the ball around and convinces himself he's still in the NFL.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I think what has made Eli Manning so great is what we struggle with sometimes. Whenever we have somebody on the show that has practiced meditation, we try to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1
I think Eli Manning just is naturally always meditating. Yeah.
There's just nothing in his mind. His brain's empty.
Eli Manning is just, he always is where he is
Speaker 1
in that moment. And he doesn't think about anything else.
So he's fine. Yeah, he'll be fine.
Retirement will be great. Okay, let's get to our interviews.
We have Tom Ferneli and Lindsey Vaughan.
Speaker 1 Before we do all that, though,
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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, our good friend Tom Fernelli.
Speaker 1
Okay, we're now joined by our very good friend. He covers college football.
He covers it for CBS Sports. He has a podcast called Cover 3 Podcast.
He is unfortunately a White Sox fan.
Speaker 1 Sorry about Zach Wheeler. It is Tom Fernelli.
Speaker 1
Tom, it is Championship Saturday and Friday. So let's start with, you know what? Let's start with the Friday night game.
And it will be a bigger question here.
Speaker 1 What score does Utah have to win by for them to get into the college football playoff? And do you think Utah will even win?
Speaker 8 I don't think that Utah has to do anything special to convince the committee because if
Speaker 8 we look at how they've been ranked the entire season, like they're right ahead of both Oklahoma and Baylor right now.
Speaker 8 So I think as long as Utah wins and Georgia loses, they're going to get the fourth spot because I've heard the argument like, well, if Oklahoma beats Baylor, that adds to their resume and that'll move them ahead of Utah.
Speaker 8 But Oklahoma's already beaten Baylor. That's already on Oklahoma's resume.
Speaker 8 So why would beating it twice push them ahead of Utah, who would at this point have added a win over Oregon to its resume?
Speaker 8 So I think that Utah, all it has to do, whether it's ugly, pretty, it's a 20-point win, it's a three-point win, I think as long as Georgia loses and Utah wins, Utah is going to be in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 Okay, quick counterpoint to that.
Speaker 1 One, Utah, the best team that they have beaten, and let's say that they beat Oregon, so that will obviously be their best win, but the best team they have beaten is 7-5.
Speaker 1
They've beaten a bunch of 7-5 teams. The best game or team they played besides Oregon was USC, and they lost that game.
And then, on top of all of that,
Speaker 1 you can tell me if I'm way off, but I always just assume brands matter whether they should or they shouldn't. People are used to Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 Lincoln Riley, the brand of Oklahoma, is bigger than the brand of Utah, and that will push them just a little bit over the edge, even though that's not fair.
Speaker 8 Well, going to Utah's resume, like you said, right now, without the Oregon win, the best win on their schedule is like, you know, Arizona State, Washington, one of those two, whatever, pick your preference.
Speaker 8 But they're still ranked ahead of Oklahoma and Baylor, even though Oklahoma and Baylor have better resumes, because the fact is Utah has been, and it's just one thing, if you listen to what Rob Mullins has said week in and week out, what he has said about Utah is that it is a complete team.
Speaker 8 And if we look at how they've ranked everybody, they are ranking the quote-unquote complete teams, the teams that are good offensively and good defensively. And Utah is not just undefeated.
Speaker 8 Maybe it hasn't played anybody, but it's kicking the shit out of everybody it's playing. It's not like it's a fluky thing where they're getting by like 21 to 17.
Speaker 8 They're beating teams by 45, 35, 46, 28, 30 points every single week.
Speaker 8 And I think that's been more impressive to the committee than Oklahoma kind of farting around and, you know, losing to Kansas State on the road beating Iowa State by a point struggling to get by TCU struggling to get by you know Baylor having to make that huge comeback and I think that's what the committee is looking at with Utah where they just see them and they say this team's been dominant all season long whereas Oklahoma kind of messes around and gets sloppy with the ball and gets itself in trouble now as for what you were saying about the brands that is something we do need to consider because I do think there is some truth to it.
Speaker 8 I don't think it's the situation like we saw Feinbaum on GetUp the other morning saying nobody wants to see Utah in the playoffs. I don't buy that for a second.
Speaker 8 But if Oklahoma beats Baylor on Saturday and Utah wins pretty convincingly against Oregon, and then they push Oklahoma up over Utah after having Utah ahead of Oklahoma all season, it will be very difficult for them to pretend that the brand doesn't have something to do with it.
Speaker 8 Because clearly, like you said, Oklahoma, as far as the brand and the national recognition and the star power, has a whole lot more than Utah.
Speaker 8 Because while Utah is a very good team, I would wager that just about every casual college football fan and the people who are tuning in, you know, for the college football playoff, most of them don't know anybody on Utah's team.
Speaker 8
They don't know Tyler Huntley. They don't know Zach Moss.
They don't know the names of it. They don't know Kyle Whittingham.
So they're relatively unknown in that factor.
Speaker 8 But I do think that based on what we've seen from the committee so far, they do like Utah, and I think Utah will get in if it beats Oregon.
Speaker 8 And I should say, you did also ask me if I think Utah will beat Oregon.
Speaker 8 I think it will, but I'm not convinced of it because Oregon, you know, it lost to Arizona State a few weeks ago and killed its playoff hopes, but Oregon's been a very good football team itself.
Speaker 8 It has a very good defense. Justin Herbert, I think, is overhyped a little bit as a draft prospect, but as far as a college quarterback goes, he's, you know, he's a top college quarterback.
Speaker 8
So that makes them dangerous. So I think Oregon can win the game.
I think it's going to be kind of a close game. I do think Utah wins more often than not, though.
Speaker 8 So I think it's going to be low scoring, too, because it's supposed to be windy in Santa Clara on Friday night.
Speaker 1
So Utah is six and a half point favorites. So it sounds like you're thinking Oregon.
Do you think Oregon's going to cover?
Speaker 8 I do.
Speaker 8 I like the under in Oregon to cover just because I, like I said, it's, it's, I'm thinking this is going to be like a 27-24, 24-21 kind of game where it's not sloppy and ugly, but the two defenses are the best units on the field for both sides, and I think they'll win out over 60 minutes.
Speaker 1
I got to be honest with you, Tom. When you said that some people out there don't want to see Utah, I think I don't want to see Utah in the playoffs.
I think most people would.
Speaker 1 I think I'm one of those people, hand up.
Speaker 1 Like, I enjoy seeing teams that I recognize and teams that, you know, like Oklahoma in the college football playoff, that is, I'm going to watch that game all the time.
Speaker 1 And I'm not going to be every single time. I'm not going to be pissed off if Oklahoma makes it to the championship game.
Speaker 1 If Utah made it to the college football championship, I think, you know, viewership would obviously be way, way down.
Speaker 1 But I'm just so dumb that I see a logo that I've seen before, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to watch that team play.
Speaker 1 So give me one thing, like, as a casual college football fan, what can I say to make myself sound knowledgeable about Utah's team?
Speaker 8
I mean, they are, listen, in all seriousness, they are a very fun team. They're a very good team.
I know they don't have the brand recognition, but they are very good.
Speaker 8 Tyler Huntley is, you know, it's a very strange season because there are, like, I feel like Joe Burrow is running away with the Heisman campaign and with the Heisman Trophy race.
Speaker 8 And there are a lot of other dudes who probably deserve to be in New York. And I think Tyler Huntley is somebody who definitely deserves to be there.
Speaker 8 If you look at his numbers and you compare them to guys like Burrow and Tua and Justin Fields, his numbers are right there with all of them. He's had a very good season.
Speaker 8 And then Zach Moss is probably the most underrated running back in the country. In fact, the only game that they lost against USC, Moss got hurt during that game and he missed it.
Speaker 8 And that kind of, you know, really impacted their offense and that played a role. So, I mean, there's a very good chance that if Zach Moss never gets hurt in that game, Utah is undefeated right now.
Speaker 1 All right. And also just a shout out to Kyle Whittingham, who might be the most underrated coach in college football.
Speaker 1 He probably would make any, I would say he'd probably make any top five list of coaches in college football, which would probably surprise a lot of people, but he's up there. He's right.
Speaker 1 He's one of the best coaches. He is probably the top coach that hasn't won a title, and most coaches haven't won a title because they all, it's basically Saban and Dabbo.
Speaker 1 Hey, Tom, I couldn't help but notice you answered three questions about Utah, and you didn't say anything about Clemson. So I want to give you 30 seconds to respect Clemson on this show.
Speaker 1 We're a big respect Clemson here.
Speaker 8
I'm sorry. I hope Dabbo's not listening.
And if he is, I hope he can forgive me because, you know, as a member of the national media, I hate Clemson. I hope they lose.
Speaker 8
I don't want them in the playoff. I think that they're very, very bad.
And the ACC is the worst conference ever.
Speaker 1 And, yeah, Clemson. Just make that a cliphead.
Speaker 1 Wait, wait, hold on. If Clemson loses, they're still in.
Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 I mean, that's like Clemson is amazing, and it's what's incredible. I mean, I get Dabbo has no other cards to play.
Speaker 8 I've been saying all year long, Clemson's biggest opponent will be boredom because the rest of the ACC suck. There is nobody in the ACC that can compete with Clemson.
Speaker 8 So, all that they had all year was as long as they didn't get bored and screw up against somebody, they were going to win the conference and they're going to get into the playoff and they could win the national title again.
Speaker 8 And the fact that they're at number three has has nothing to do with anybody thinking Clemson stinks or the ACC stinks.
Speaker 8 It's just that they're undefeated and there are two other undefeated teams who are kicking the crap out of everybody but have a better resume because they've played other ranked teams.
Speaker 8 So that's the only reason Clemson's at number three.
Speaker 8 But the reason LSU fans are really pissed off about Ohio State going to number one and the reason that being number one is so important is because if you're number two, you have to play Clemson in the semifinal.
Speaker 8 And nobody wants to play Clemson in the semifinal because they're really fucking good.
Speaker 1 Yep. So
Speaker 1 let's make a hypothetical here. We'll jump to conclusions that LSU wins, and we'll really kind of suspend all
Speaker 1 belief here and say Ohio State beats Wisconsin, which we know won't happen.
Speaker 1
You already conceded that. Who gets the one seed? No, if Wisconsin wins, it's Iron Sharpens Iron.
So I'm in a no-lose situation here.
Speaker 1 Wisconsin is going to do whatever is best to get those boys from Columbus ready for the playoff.
Speaker 1 Who gets one seed if both teams win?
Speaker 8 I think Ohio State would keep on to the one seed unless LSU just really completely balls out and destroys Georgia, which is a possibility.
Speaker 8 But I think that, you know, it's whether you think it's a conspiracy that the college football playoff is propping up the Big Ten team so it has the chance to give Ohio State the number one slot or not.
Speaker 8 The fact is, if we were in the BCS era right now, the one in two teams would be Ohio State at one and LSU two, because that's where all the computers see Ohio State as well.
Speaker 8 It's not just some conspiracy to prop up the Big Ten because Ohio State's been a very good team. And as we've seen, as we discussed with the Utah thing, the committee is doing
Speaker 8
a good job of combining both resume and the eye test. And if you've watched Ohio State this year, They've been the most dominant team in the country aside from Clemson.
LSU has been a great team.
Speaker 8 LSU has had a great season, but LSU has had close calls. The Auburn game was a close call.
Speaker 8 It It was in a close game against Texas, a Texas team that, as the season has gone along, has proven to be pretty mediocre, and that has hurt LSU's overall resume, which contributed to them falling to number two.
Speaker 8 So if you look at them defensively, they've shown some weaknesses and spots, although I think that a lot of it is also, if you look at the raw numbers and judge LSU's defense off that, I think that's misguided simply because with their offense being able to score so quickly and so often, the defense is just on the field a lot more often.
Speaker 8 If you look at more of the advanced metrics or the rate metrics, LSU's defense isn't elite like we've seen with Clemson and Ohio State, but it's still a pretty good defense.
Speaker 8 It's one of the better ones in the country.
Speaker 8 But it's just the combination of the two, I think that, again, they look at Ohio State and they see a more complete team because their closest game was that 11-point win over Penn State, which is a top 10 team.
Speaker 8 But it's important to remember that 10 of Penn State's 17 points came directly off of Ohio State turnovers in their own territory.
Speaker 8 So Penn State had two short fields and in four plays and had to go 30 yards to get 10 points. So that made that game look a lot closer than it was in reality.
Speaker 8 As we saw, you know, when Iron sharpened iron earlier this season, Ohio State beat Wisconsin 38.
Speaker 1
The rain. The rain.
We're a fast team.
Speaker 8 We're fast. Jonathan Taylor just couldn't get any traction with that wet turf.
Speaker 8 That's all it came down to.
Speaker 1 Has Jim Mersey said whether or not the roof's going to be closed on Saturday?
Speaker 1
I don't know. That's going to be a big factor.
Assume it is. You've got to check into that.
It's tough watching, I mean, Wisconsin is what they are, and that's a very good team.
Speaker 1 But then you see Ohio State and you're like, yep, that's a different level. Like, Jimmy's and Joe's, X's and O's kind of goes out.
Speaker 1 You know, that's really what the story is when those two teams match up.
Speaker 8 Yeah, and that's just really been the story for the Big Ten this year.
Speaker 8 It's like you could make a very strong argument that from top to bottom, the Big Ten is the toughest conference in the country this year.
Speaker 8 And the rankings show that the committee feels the same way.
Speaker 8 It's just Ohio State is miles above everybody else in the conference, much like Ohio State Clemson and LSU are pretty much miles ahead of most other teams in the country.
Speaker 8 And that's why I think it's funny because we sit here and we're having the debate over who's going to be the number four team.
Speaker 8 And the truth of the matter is, it's not really going to matter because whoever gets that number four spot is a very much a long shot to even get to the title game, let alone win two of those games and win the national title.
Speaker 8 So it's kind of just like arguing for no reason, but that's always the best reason to argue.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's a a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 Great quote.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you mentioned something about that Texas game, and that's actually like really interesting to me because when I watched that game, the LSU Texas game, Texas did look like a good team, and I think that they were a good team at the time.
Speaker 1
And sometimes teams just start to suck halfway through the year. That's just kind of the nature of sports.
And yeah, Texas isn't very good right now, but I still think they were good when they played.
Speaker 1 Does the committee take that into account at all? Are they just like, well, they finished up with a shitty record, and they looked very unimpressive in their last couple of games.
Speaker 1 So that loss is going to mean less.
Speaker 8 They're supposed to, or at least they claim to.
Speaker 8 I don't know if that's the case, if they actually doing it, because Texas did suffer a lot of injuries, particularly on defense during the season that kind of just kind of derailed their season for him.
Speaker 8
The offense was it's funny because you know they they reassigned their offensive coordinator last week, Tim Beck. He's going to another role.
I don't know.
Speaker 8 I guess he's too expensive to fire, but it's it's oddly ironic because Texas's offense, if you look at all their stats, is actually better this year than it was last year.
Speaker 8 So I just feel like somebody's head had to roll because in the secondary, they had a lot of injuries. Todd Orlando, who's a very good defensive coordinator, was fired because of it.
Speaker 8
Because, again, heads had to roll. He'll be getting another job quickly.
I think that...
Speaker 8 Yeah, to your point, Texas was a better team in September than it definitely was in November, and the committee probably should consider that.
Speaker 8 I just, you know, recency bias is a hell of a thing, so I don't know if they actually are.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy that Ohio State's non-conference Cincinnati win is bigger than LSU's non-conference Texas win.
Speaker 1 All right, so the Bears are back on.
Speaker 1
This is halftime, so I'm going to ask one more question. Seek geek question.
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Speaker 1 Give us, when we wake up on Sunday morning, the final four, and then also maybe give the AWLs a Tom Fernelli lock for that they can bet on on Saturday because you are a sharp.
Speaker 1 So give us both those things.
Speaker 1 My top four. Can I just give a lock real quick first?
Speaker 3 I love the under in the Ohio State Wisconsin game.
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. There it is.
There's Tom Scott. Okay, is it Tom Fornelly's lock right there?
Speaker 3 I just want. No, just
Speaker 1 sorry, Tom Scott.
Speaker 8 That's the Hank Lockwood lock of the week.
Speaker 1 All right, so your final four. By the way,
Speaker 1 there's going to be people who don't. I think the Tom Fornelly,
Speaker 1 Henry Lockwood rivalry is one of my favorite rivalries in all of sports. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 And there are still so many people that don't understand it and will get pissed off like when you guys will subtly do something on Twitter and everyone be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1
Yeah, like when Tom stole Hank's awesome tweet about the Game of Thrones thing. Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8
He had filters on his pictures. They were different tweets.
Yeah. They were different tweets.
Hank had filters, okay?
Speaker 1
It's true. It's a totally different tweet.
It's true. All right.
So final four and then lock of the week.
Speaker 8 My final four, Ohio State at one,
Speaker 8 LSU at two, McClempson at three, and then I think Utah will be at four because I do think they beat Oregon, and I don't think it matters what happens in the Big 12 title game.
Speaker 8 And my lock of the week, I agree with Hank. I really like the under in Ohio State's offense.
Speaker 1 Did you already read him say that?
Speaker 3 Oh, I was just, you know, I'm a Big Ten guy.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I write a column every week about it.
Speaker 8 But it's simply because, like, Justin Fields got banged up in that game last week, and he can't run exactly.
Speaker 8 I don't know how close his Ohio State's offense is going to be. And then, Wisconsin's offense, where's the points going to come from?
Speaker 1 Jack Cole.
Speaker 1 Did you know? Jack Cole, baby. Did you know, Big Cat?
Speaker 8 In two career games against Ohio State, Jonathan Taylor is averaging 2.7 yards per carry?
Speaker 1
Yeah, I did. I did.
Graham Mertz in relief.
Speaker 8 So, like,
Speaker 8 I'll be very surprised if Wisconsin gets more than 14 points. So, I just think the under is a very smart play in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 Okay, that's the lock of the week. Okay, I wanted to follow up on
Speaker 1
FCS. I know you're a big FCS guy.
Do you think that JMU has a chance to kind of turn back the hands of time and get some revenge on that 2017 loss to NDSU in the finals?
Speaker 8 No, not this year.
Speaker 1 Oh, damn. It's NDSU's tournament to lose again.
Speaker 1
Oh, wait, one last thing, Tom. One last thing.
Go for it. Okay.
Speaker 1
Clemson loses. Utah loses.
Georgia loses.
Speaker 1 Oklahoma and Baylor play 13-10 game.
Speaker 1 Is it Big 12? Wisconsin wins 59-0.
Speaker 1 Do the Badgers get in?
Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, then it's Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 Fuck yes.
Speaker 1 And then when Wisconsin wins a national title,
Speaker 1
you can have a parade in Champaign. I will give you that.
I will give you that.
Speaker 8 How amazing would it be if a team that lost to Illinois reaches the college football playoffs?
Speaker 1 It would be
Speaker 1
awful. Yeah, that would make Lovey Smith pretty much national champion.
Hey,
Speaker 1 we're watching Mitch Trubisky play competent football. So crazier things have happened.
Speaker 8 Here comes a pick sit.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1
We're going to hang on before that happens. All right, Tom, thank you so much.
Everyone, go follow Tom at Twitter at Tom Fornelly. He's the best.
He's got picks. Oh,
Speaker 1
Patterson. Cordell.
Oh.
Speaker 1
Okay. All right.
That was us just live.
Speaker 1
Live grunting a 50-yard pass for the Bears. All right, Tom.
Thanks so much, man.
Speaker 1
Later. Love you guys.
Love you. Love you, Tom.
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Speaker 1 And now, Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 1 And now for something completely different.
Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on former Olympian Lindsay Vaughn. You know her.
Speaker 1 She's been probably.
Speaker 1 Actually, would you say you're the most famous Winter Olympian in America?
Speaker 9 I don't know about most famous, but most successful.
Speaker 1 Lindsay Kerrigan.
Speaker 1 But she. Tanya Harding's pretty famous.
Speaker 1 Not for good reasons.
Speaker 9 No, not for good reasons.
Speaker 1
I feel like your Q rating is very high, though. Like, everyone knows Lindsey Vaughan.
I always feel weird introducing people when it's like, you know who this is. It's Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 9 Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1 I mean, I hope you know who I am. I don't know.
Speaker 1 You have a documentary coming out on HBO tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 And it goes, you know, you just retired, what, a year ago?
Speaker 9 February. Okay.
Speaker 1 So not even a year. Less than a year.
Speaker 1 How weird is it that you have like having that transition where you're not skiing every day?
Speaker 9 It's weird, and it's also weird to say, like former skier, you know, like former Olympian. It's like past tense is really bizarre, but it's been a, it's, it's been a rough go.
Speaker 9 Like, especially the first month, two months, I was really having a hard time like finding my way. And even though you know it's coming, it's still
Speaker 9
so much different than you expected. And so, and everyone had advice, and some of which was like really concerning.
They're like, well, I'll just get used to doing nothing.
Speaker 9
I'm like, um, that's not how I want to do it at all. And then some people are like, you know, you'll be depressed for a long time, but you'll get over it.
I'm like, what?
Speaker 9 But it's balance, you know, I'm figuring it out. It's, it's, life's a lot different now, but it's good.
Speaker 1 You know, have you found
Speaker 1 that? Have you found that you enjoyed not being cold all the time? Because you don't have to go up on a mountain.
Speaker 9
You know what? I treated one cold sport for another. Now I'm watching PK play hockey and I'm in an indoor freezer, basically.
That's what I did.
Speaker 9 So I was outdoors freezing my ass off and now I'm indoors freezing my ass off.
Speaker 1
You spend a lot of time with your dog, too. Yes.
That's cool. So
Speaker 1 Lucy's here in the studio with us. Yep.
Speaker 9 Lucy is probably more famous than I am.
Speaker 1 How many followers are you? She's going to be the studio.
Speaker 1
40,000? 40,000. Now, do you do...
Do you have a Twitter account, too?
Speaker 9 No.
Speaker 9 I mean, I could do a Twitter, an internal monologue, you know, maybe that would be funny.
Speaker 1 I don't want to judge, but
Speaker 1 do you do the thing where you speak? for Lucy on the Instagram? Yes, I do. Oh, no.
Speaker 9
Yeah, I do. Oh, no.
Because it's like funny. Is it not funny?
Speaker 1 It's
Speaker 1
okay. All right.
No, no, no. I'm not going to judge.
I'm not going to judge.
Speaker 9 Look it up and see if it's funny. You can tell me straight with me if it's funny or not.
Speaker 1
Like how mom loves to like pet my belly. What's the handle? Lucy.
No, it's so.
Speaker 9
I changed it. It was Vondogs.
Now it's Sue Vondogs because, you know, PK had to be involved. S-U underscore Vondogs.
Speaker 1 So they all share an Instagram handle. They're all.
Speaker 9 I was going to do Everybody Loves Lucy, but I didn't want to exclude my other two dogs. You know, that would be.
Speaker 1 So really, she's only got like 12,000 followers because she shares the Instagram handle.
Speaker 9 Well, I mean, technically, she was in a commercial and, like, she's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1 My dog's verified. Is there any...
Speaker 9 Oh, your dog's verified?
Speaker 1 Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 1 I need to get verified.
Speaker 1 Damn it. No, Leroy's not verified.
Speaker 9 How many does Leroy have?
Speaker 1
Leroy has 28,000 on Instagram. Yes.
But on Twitter, he's got like 74,000.
Speaker 9 But see, that's you talking their voice.
Speaker 1 Well, no, I don't.
Speaker 1
I don't. No, Leroy does.
Puts out fake news. Leroy breaks news.
Yeah. If your dog gets everyone talking.
If you want to train your dog to break news, we could probably bump that up a couple grand.
Speaker 3 Yeah, it would work.
Speaker 9 She just, you know, got her ear to the ground and finding out all the juicy details.
Speaker 1 So, wait, do your other dogs get jealous that Lucy gets all the shine? Yes, yes. Because I was saying before, I was looking through my tweets times I've mentioned you.
Speaker 1 You adopted Leo, who's a brindle, who looks exactly like my adopted dog, Stella. And I
Speaker 1
exactly should hook them up. Yeah.
Oh,
Speaker 1 cute. Yeah, yeah, we should hook them up.
Speaker 1
That's Stella right there on the right. Oh, cute.
What?
Speaker 9 Actually, that painting looks just like me.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 9 Yeah, they would be a good couple.
Speaker 1 Yeah. So, the documentary, can you walk us through why you did it?
Speaker 1 What people are going to see, different side of you?
Speaker 9 Well, I originally thought it would be, you know, kind of a great way to close my career and have this swan song where I break the record and be all like happy and great.
Speaker 9 And then, three days into shooting, I tore my LCL, had a big crash, and
Speaker 9
basically was trying to figure out how to salvage anything from the season. So it was a bit of an emotional roller coaster, to say the least.
Like, I'm crying in a solid portion of it.
Speaker 9 And then it also kind of goes through my family's history and how, you know, how much they sacrificed and what it was like for them. So it's definitely a unique perspective and
Speaker 9 a lot that I haven't ever shared before.
Speaker 1 Right.
Speaker 9 But also a lot in the hospital that was pretty crazy, and some of the procedures we did. And
Speaker 9 it's a little gory at times, but
Speaker 1 we get to see like the other stuff. That's how
Speaker 1 it works.
Speaker 9 There's some stuff in there I can't tell you.
Speaker 1 How many knee injuries have you had?
Speaker 9 Knee injuries. I've had one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1 six.
Speaker 1 Six what? Surgeries on my knees. Holy shit.
Speaker 1 How many times have you turned your ACL? Twice. Oh, my God.
Speaker 9 Two ACLs, MCL, meniscus a bunch of times, a bunch of like orthoscopic cleanups, my LCL reconstruction.
Speaker 1 Do you feel that pain day to day?
Speaker 9 Yeah. I mean, if I'm standing for a long period of time, my knees get like, if I'm sitting, I have a hard time standing up.
Speaker 1 Interesting. Did they do the graft or did they do the other kind of surgery?
Speaker 9 So
Speaker 9 the first surgery, my ACL was replaced with my hamstring, which re-ruptured, and then it was replaced with my patella tendon.
Speaker 1 It's a weird dynamic because when you think about other sports, the hockey, football, you see guys get hit so hard, so you know, like, oh, they're probably having trouble waking up on Monday morning.
Speaker 1 Whereas skiing, just as taxing, but people do it as their, you know, free time, fun hobby, and then you're out there having just insane crashes and knee injuries. It's, it's crazy.
Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 9 definitely a little different than you know, your weekend stroll. Right.
Speaker 9 But, you know, we had this analogy, or Bodhi Miller had this analogy where,
Speaker 9 you know, imagine for us,
Speaker 9 ski racing is if you're driving in a car going 85 miles an hour, just jump out of it. And that's what it feels like to us.
Speaker 1
Damn. No, thank you.
Yeah. I'm smart enough to not do that.
Speaker 9 In a lycra suit, which
Speaker 9 is really no padding.
Speaker 1
Do you have those moments when you're crashing where you're like, oh, fuck. This is going to suck.
Yeah. Because
Speaker 1 some of those crashes go for a while.
Speaker 9 Yeah. you know, like, when you're crashing, you're like, I try and I try to keep my body in a position where it's not gonna be as bad.
Speaker 9 Like, if I see an object coming that I'm gonna hit, I try to like move my body to avoid it. But, I mean, sometimes you're just so screwed.
Speaker 1 We give every skier that we have on this podcast 30 seconds to bash snowboarders. So, do you want to go ahead and just kind of rip into them a little bit?
Speaker 9 Um, no, I don't want to.
Speaker 1
But they're like, But they suck. They suck.
They're like stoners. They think that they're cooler than skiers because it looks like it's a skateboard, skateboard, but it's not.
Speaker 9 There's so many things I want to say, but
Speaker 1 go off. Go off.
Speaker 9 No, my only gripe is that I wish they didn't stop in the middle of the trail, you know, or like underneath a knoll or something.
Speaker 9 And then, you know, we run over them or like, you know, it's just dangerous.
Speaker 1
Right. It's really dangerous.
Because they're smoking and they're hanging out.
Speaker 9
It's like pull off to the side so we don't hit each other. Right.
And also when you're, you know, because they can only see kind of to one side. So just be conscious of where you are.
Speaker 1 Um, they all think they're in the X games, like, oh, I'm gonna do this fucking sick poly.
Speaker 9 It's like, dude, I mean, Sean Wait's a good friend of mine.
Speaker 1 Yeah, the tomato can. No, the
Speaker 1 flying tomato.
Speaker 1 Tomato can.
Speaker 1 Could you tell the difference if I put you at the top of a mountain in Colorado and then at the top of a mountain in Austria? Could you be able to tell, like, okay, this is European?
Speaker 1 Uh, most likely, yeah. What's the difference between European and snow?
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 it's
Speaker 9
different. It's lower altitude.
Like, Europe is generally all much lower altitude than the west west coast skiing. So the snow is kind of in between west coast and east coast.
Okay.
Speaker 9 If if you will and west coast, um, it's more dry, like much drier, um, especially Colorado, Utah.
Speaker 1
Rado is what you call it. Colorado.
No Rado is what the locals call it.
Speaker 1
Rado. Rado.
Yeah. I don't going out to Rado.
You ever spend any time in Rado?
Speaker 1
I live in Rado. You've never been what Rado is.
I live in Vale, Colorado. Would you? No, you live in Rado.
Would you say? I have one last question. Would you say you're an adrenaline junkie? 100%.
Speaker 1
I like that. Absolutely.
I am as well.
Speaker 9 That's an issue, actually. It's a problem.
Speaker 1 Oh, it is.
Speaker 9 Yeah. I mean, what am I going to do now? Like, there's only so many speeding tickets one can get.
Speaker 1
Let me see your phone. You have your phone? I don't have my phone here.
Do you have a case on it? Yeah. Take off your case.
Speaker 1 That's adrenaline.
Speaker 9 No, that's just
Speaker 1
unnecessary red. At any given second, touch that.
I could drop that. That's adrenaline.
Speaker 1
You have the new one. Oh, cute with your dog on it.
A little brag, but yeah, take off the case of your phone. It's adrenaline every single day.
Because you're just like, oh, shit, I could drop it.
Speaker 1 And then if you don't.
Speaker 9 But then you're going to have to, if you do drop it and break it, you're going to have to go wait in line at the Apple store.
Speaker 1 No, you just,
Speaker 1
my old phone I just changed was just smashed to bits, and I just had it smashed. But that's not a year.
That's like not a ton of adrenaline.
Speaker 1 Oh, it's fun because then you have the adrenaline of maybe cutting cutting your finger on the glass.
Speaker 1 It's fun, but I agree with you that if you do break it and you have to go wait in line at the Apple store, that is the least adrenaline thing that you can do.
Speaker 9 Yeah, exactly. So it's like the reward is not high for that.
Speaker 1 You're not a real adrenaline junkie.
Speaker 9 I would like to jump out of an airplane. That's what I like to do.
Speaker 1
You've never done that? No. You're not in a real adrenaline thing.
They won't let me. They won't let me.
What do you mean? Tell him he's got to jump out.
Speaker 9 He's like, I don't want you to die.
Speaker 1
People don't die jumping out of airplanes. I mean, people have died jumping out of the plane.
Yeah, I do. People have died doing everything.
Speaker 9 That's true, actually. That's a very valid point.
Speaker 1
Yeah. If you have a case on your phone, you never jumped out of an airplane.
You are not a true adrenaline chunky.
Speaker 9 I swim at sharks and I skied at 85 miles an hour. I think I trump you.
Speaker 1 Can you overdose on adrenaline? Have you ever? And then just stop sweating?
Speaker 9
No. Oh.
Okay.
Speaker 1 No, Prince Andrews said. Yeah, no, he said that he overdosed on adrenaline.
Speaker 1 Yeah, he was fighting in the Falkland Island War and he got shot at, and then he said that he stopped sweating for like 10 years.
Speaker 9 I mean, I would love to stop sweating.
Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe that's the only thing you do. Just go fight in the Falkland Islands, throw your phone at a wall, yeah.
Speaker 1 Never sweating the adrenaline. I'm gonna bring this home with a really good question here.
Speaker 1 So, you live in Colorado, Rado,
Speaker 1
you're in the thin air all the time. When you get down at sea level with us plebes, are you just like high off oxygen all the time? Because the air is so sweet, so much easier.
Is it soupy?
Speaker 9 No, when I'm in altitude, because my house in Vale is at almost 10,000 feet, and I get headaches, and like my eyes are always dry, and like it actually is not that fun to live at that altitude.
Speaker 9 So I will say it's like really nice to live at sea level in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 Is it really hard to bake shit in Colorado because you have to follow those special instructions?
Speaker 9
It's a little bit more difficult, but it's not that bad. I always, I never actually look at the time.
I just, I, you know, pop my head in the oven and see what's up.
Speaker 1
No, keep your head out. Adrenaline is very dangerous.
Not just dangerous.
Speaker 1 I think I've proven myself.
Speaker 9 Yes.
Speaker 1 All right, Lindsay Vaughn, thank you so much. Check out her new documentary on HBO.
Speaker 1
You can watch everything on demand now. Tomorrow, yeah.
It's coming out tomorrow, November 27th, 6th. 6th.
6th. I know the date today.
Speaker 1
That was good. All right.
But yeah, check it out on demand anytime you want. Yep.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
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All right, let's do some segments, wrap up the week.
Speaker 1
Next week, by the way, we have one of the biggest interviews we've ever done. Just a little teaser.
Was that next Friday? Yeah, next Friday. I would say our biggest interview.
Speaker 3 Better than it ever could have went to. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Well, I wish it was.
Speaker 1
It was good. It was good.
The only thing I was doing. Yeah, it was bad.
Yeah,
Speaker 1 it didn't.
Speaker 3 It didn't completely exceed my expectations.
Speaker 1
It was over high going into it. The only thing I would have wanted is more time because it was that much fun.
All right, Fire Fest of the week. Hank, you got this, man.
Speaker 5 Yeah, I actually have one this week.
Speaker 3
So, obviously, I don't live at the office. I have to commute to the office every day.
And the other day.
Speaker 1 We know you don't.
Speaker 3 The other day, I
Speaker 3 got into my train subway platform. I stepped in a puddle and my sock got soaking wet.
Speaker 3 And then after waiting for like three or four minutes, my whole train, they just were like, oh, the train's not coming.
Speaker 3 The station's shut down or whatever so i had to walk like two blocks in the cold get on a different train and then two blocks two blocks and then i had to move are you okay i had to walk like three blocks to get to the office as opposed to like zero so that's a net total of five blocks that you had to increase it was probably like 20 minutes uh
Speaker 1 it just it sucks just not being able to get to the office on time i will say having a wet foot will ruin your day
Speaker 1 wet foot is is worse than spraining an ankle which is worse than a break i
Speaker 1 I would rather have my foot chopped off than have my sock be wet all day. Yeah.
Speaker 3 So, yeah, commuting to work, my firefest.
Speaker 1 Although, wet socks,
Speaker 1
shout out K. Marco's drink book.
He had me do my 10 hangover cures.
Speaker 1 One of them was, there was a time in my life where I read that if you wore wet socks to bed, it would hydrate your body through your feet. Does that work? Did not.
Speaker 1
That sounds like one of those things that you see at the bottom of an article on Yahoo. It's an illustration.
It says, here's one cure for the common cold. It's like put an onion inside your sock.
Speaker 1 What were the other tips, Big Cat?
Speaker 1 Well, I don't want to give away all of them because you should go buy it at the Bar of Steel Sports store, but one of them, I had, I convinced myself, I read another thing where if you eat a banana, drink an entire 20-ounce Diet Coke, and have two Advil right before you go to bed, you'll be completely fine when you wake up.
Speaker 1 Also didn't work. That didn't work?
Speaker 1 I like Pedialite. The thing is, Pedialite speaks.
Speaker 1 Pickle juice.
Speaker 1
You just start chasing age, and you can't reverse time, and that's what ends up happening. I mean, the best cure for a hangover is to just not stop drinking.
Yeah, that's true. That was a fair job.
Speaker 1
Never hang over. Yeah, there you go.
You're the dunk. All right, PFT, what's your firefest? My firefest of the week is something I just experienced today on my way into the office.
Speaker 3 I got dibs on that.
Speaker 1 Oh, traveling?
Speaker 3 To the office, yeah.
Speaker 1
Okay. So find a new one.
My new fire fest is just leaving the airport. Oh.
Is leaving the airport. LaGuardia was so packed today.
I got off the plane.
Speaker 1
I was already delayed by probably four four hours today. Got off the plane, was stranded outside.
I think I took a private jet. No, we took a private jet to Columbia, and then we flew back commercial.
Speaker 1 By the way,
Speaker 1
I flew a private jet and you're complaining about travel. I'm ruined.
I'm ruined when it comes to traveling from now on.
Speaker 1 Every time I go to an airport, I'm just going to be saying facts to the person next to me about how flying commercial is different in certain circumstances than a private jet.
Speaker 1 It's like, well, if we were flying private, we wouldn't have to worry about this line for security. Yeah.
Speaker 5 It would be insufferable.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember when I flew my first private jet like seven years ago. Yeah, this is my first time.
Speaker 1 So, but I was straight at LaGuardia two hours to get a lift, and it actually looked like a fire fest. There were tents set up, there were hundreds of people.
Speaker 1
Everyone was waiting for about an hour, hour and a half, two hours. They were yelling at each other.
There were fights. They were like assaulting lift drivers for taking too long to pick them up.
Speaker 1 So it took me probably a grand total of three and a half hours to get from the airport to the office.
Speaker 1
As part of my take, sports biz intern Jake helpfully pointed out, I could have made it to the office faster if I'd walked. Yeah, that sucks.
There's nothing worse. Super relatable.
I mean, LaGuardia.
Speaker 1 Me and you, PFT. Yeah, LaGuardia is going to work.
Speaker 1
LaGuardia is hell on earth. The moral of the story is just don't have a job.
Yeah, don't go anywhere. All right, my Fire Fest.
Now,
Speaker 1 bear with me because it's going to sound like it's been a good week for me, but hold on. Come on.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Ready? The Bears won.
The Bulls are on a two-game winning streak. The Blackhawks won.
The Cubs finally cut that scumbag Addison Russell. Wisconsin beat Minnesota.
Speaker 1
They're going to beat Ohio State. Things are going too well for me in my sports world.
So my fire fest is
Speaker 1 the other shoe is going to drop, and it's going to drop hard. You think it's Ohio State? That's the big shoe.
Speaker 1 I would say that there's a chance, yeah, like between the Badgers and the Bears, I might not win another football game of the year.
Speaker 1 Like, it might just go, I don't know, the Bears won't be a good thing.
Speaker 6 Everything just fall apart.
Speaker 1
But you know, when you feel a little too good, it's like, this isn't how it's supposed to be. That's how, like, the last two years of my life has been with Washington, D.C.
sports. Right.
Speaker 1
Big Wizards fan has been. Big Wizards fan.
Has been killing it. Yeah, exactly.
No, I hear you because you always are not used to this.
Speaker 1 You're looking over your shoulder like, wait, is there, is someone, is Ashton Kutcher about to pop out and say, ha ha, just a joke? Yeah, Hank, how do you deal with this?
Speaker 1 How do you deal with continued success by your teams without feeling like it's going to also be? Are you flinching, wondering, uh-oh, is this going to end?
Speaker 3 Yeah, sometimes, but you just got to, you believe.
Speaker 1
I think you just have to become a huge asshole to anyone that hates on your team. Okay.
And then that's how you continue the success, right?
Speaker 3 Yeah, well, it's like when you're in a city of champions, it can just all come back to the fact that
Speaker 3 the sport being based in Boston means that the team is going to overcome all obstacles.
Speaker 1 They hate magic.
Speaker 1 As someone who has a football team that is probably going to go deep in the playoffs as well, I too am afraid of meeting the Ravens in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, likewise, I'm afraid.
Speaker 1 I think the one team that can take the Redskins down in the playoffs is probably the Bears.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's the Bears and the Ravens are scary, scary teams. All right, let's, we got a couple other segments that we'll do some FAQs to wrap up.
Speaker 1 First up, speaking of which, Hank, trouble in paradise, Tom Curran wrote an...
Speaker 1 article today talking about this being possibly more than likely more likely than not more than not more probable than not Tom Brady's last year in New England he said that essentially the team has not been able to reach a contract with him.
Speaker 1 He is an unrestricted free agent and also has in his contract he can't be franchise tagged.
Speaker 1 For the first time, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1 Hank, thoughts?
Speaker 3 My thoughts are: I like Tom Kern a lot, but sometimes he does like the Florio thing where he plays semantics.
Speaker 3 He knows what he's doing when he puts these articles out there because I think in his heart of heart, he doesn't actually believe any of this.
Speaker 1
You don't think he's leaving? But Hank, remember, he sold his house. He did.
He sold one of his mini houses, probably. Okay, here's my question to you.
Follow-up question.
Speaker 1 I would agree with you that this feels like a yearly thing now.
Speaker 3 I will say one thing, though. If Tom is going to go somewhere,
Speaker 3 it's going to be based around the TB12 because there's been a lot more promotion this year with the TB12, him and Guerrero's thing, and they're opening up these different.
Speaker 1 What states have the most relaxed incest laws? What states have FDA restrictions as loose as possible? But the only way
Speaker 3 it's going to immediately help my business.
Speaker 1 Okay, so
Speaker 1 he's not going to do that. Okay, so what would be the worst team for him to go to?
Speaker 1 For you, personally?
Speaker 1 Colts?
Speaker 1 Giants?
Speaker 3
No, somewhere in the AFC East. Somewhere where it's two years.
No, even
Speaker 3 the Dolphins. Anywhere where you have to see him twice a year.
Speaker 1 What's the weirdest jersey he could be in?
Speaker 1 I was actually thinking about this the other day because somebody just put the take out there. What if he went to Dallas? What if him and Josh McDaniels went to Dallas?
Speaker 1
And I closed my eyes. I tried to picture Tom Brady in a Dallas Cowboys uniform, uniform, and I couldn't do it.
The Vikings? The Vikings on Photoshop. The Vikings is a good one.
The Cardinals.
Speaker 1
The Cardinals? I could see him rocking a Cardinals somewhere. Bucks.
Bucks. Yes.
Speaker 1
That would be so weird. It will be very, very weird if that happens.
Speaking of hot takes,
Speaker 1 shout out Florio. Because did you see that tweet he had today where he just said, just a random thought popped in my head?
Speaker 1 Andrew Luck might be the starting quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders in 2020. And he was like, this is based on nothing, but I just wanted to to put it.
Speaker 1
At least he admitted that he just made it up in his own brain. Oh, man.
He goes directly from his brain. He's got a direct line to his Twitter.
He's so stir-crazy right now. It's awesome.
Speaker 1
Andrew Luck in Vegas. I don't know.
Chris Byrne would have a field day with the luck be a lady and all that shit. Mike Florio is the definition of a beautiful mind never rests.
Speaker 1 He just can't be sitting still for more than two seconds. Otherwise, he's going to have a guy come out of retirement and play for a team that's moving cities to Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 But as he proved on this show with Elon Man,
Speaker 1 it's that kind of thinking that
Speaker 1 creates. Good point.
Speaker 1 All right. We haven't explained it to Hank.
Speaker 1 Hank, you want to have the Mets new ownership explained to you?
Speaker 3 Yeah, so it seems, I don't know, it just seems like all Mets fans for years and years and years, sell the team, sell the team, sell the team.
Speaker 1 And then borderlining got swept on the rug.
Speaker 3 And it was just like, snap. The team is sold and everything is cured.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's how it it works to a guy, Stephen Cohen, who seems like pretty much the biggest baller of all time.
Speaker 3 Why would they sell the team, though? Isn't it just like it's free money?
Speaker 1 Well, I think the Wilpons, they lost a lot of money in the Madoff thing, and it seems like no one likes them.
Speaker 1 So, the weird part is they got like a sweetheart deal where they get to pretend to be owners for the next five years without having to seems like pay any of the bills.
Speaker 1 Kind of like us with the New Zealand Breakers, yeah, okay, yeah, exactly. So, um, but this guy, Stephen Cohn,
Speaker 1 he's on the record of having the biggest fine of all time by the SEC, and I'm not talking about the football conference. He's got like these compounds all over the place.
Speaker 3 Where it's like Jordan Norfolk shit?
Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I don't know exactly the details, but I think he can't, like,
Speaker 1
legally, I don't think he can trade anymore. So he just bought a baseball team, and I think he's the richest baseball owner in MLB now.
$16 billion.
Speaker 1 He's richer than the learner?
Speaker 1
He's $16 billion in net worth. Okay.
Yeah. Pretty, pretty big.
Well, I mean, you would probably think that someone who's not allowed to execute bad trades is probably good for the Mets, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 So GM totally struggled with that. Yes.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 So what does it solve? That's a good idea. It just basically,
Speaker 3 what exactly does the new ownership solve?
Speaker 1 It's fresh blood.
Speaker 1 It's fresh blood in the building, and I think that anytime that you have a shitty owner for a really, really long time, you will literally take anyone else in the world but that same shitty owner.
Speaker 1 He's four times as wealthy as
Speaker 1
Ted Lerner. Okay.
so he's very wealthy. I was actually looking it up because I was just curious what Tom Ricketts, like, and obviously the Google, who the fuck knows.
Speaker 1 Tom Ricketts is just shy of a bill.
Speaker 1
Stephen Cohen has 16 bills. The fact that he owns various compounds across the nation, that to me seems like he's a cool guy with nothing to hide.
Nothing to hide.
Speaker 1 I was looking through, I just searched his houses, and he has like, it seems like he has a house on every block in New York City. Yeah.
Speaker 3 So just stash away.
Speaker 1
Once you start calling your house a compound, well, yeah, the Greenwich City compound level of quite large. And he, I guess he's going to spend a ton of money.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 I always assume with owners, like owners, really, really rich owners, they buy teams and they say they're going to spend a ton of money and then they spend a ton of money.
Speaker 1 And then if the team doesn't win, they're like, wait, why am I doing this? Because they're always somewhat savvy businessmen who don't like losing money.
Speaker 1
So if the Mets don't perform, he's going to be like, fuck this. Right.
It also just becomes like a nice toy for a billionaire to have.
Speaker 1 At some point, like later on in in their life, they're like, I want to stay involved in a business of some sorts, but I also just really like sports, and sports are cool, so I'm just going to get like a $3 billion toy that I can play with and fuck around with.
Speaker 1 Right.
Speaker 1 How many people in the world do you think could buy a Major League Baseball franchise? Tax them. Eat them alive.
Speaker 1 How many people, though?
Speaker 1 I was just doing my
Speaker 1 Twitter. That was a remake of everyone on Twitter these days.
Speaker 1
Tax Bill Gates a billion dollars. Send guillotines to the Mets.
Do those people realize that none of these rich, rich guys,
Speaker 1 when it says they're net worth, it's not liquid? Like Bill Gates doesn't have $20 billion in cash. If Bill Gates wanted to get all of his cash, wouldn't he just destroy the world economy?
Speaker 1
Right, exactly. So if we taxed him, I'm all for taxing the super, super rich.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
But if we wanted to tax them everything they had, they would destroy the economy. What about...
Speaker 1 But tax them. But the weird thing about Bill Gates is if he wanted to, he's reached a point in life where everything that he owns is so valuable that there's nobody that's able to buy what he owns.
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's like one of those weird paradoxes.
You're so rich that you're not rich anymore. Right.
You're untouched. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1
You can't even converse with a regular human being. Right.
You can't sell what you have because no one's able to even afford it. Do you think he buys like $50 milk cartons? Oh, because?
Speaker 1 If Bill Gates didn't wear Velcro shoes, I would be shocked. What do you think Bill Gates does all day?
Speaker 1 If he's not working, big shopping on Amazon. Like, if he's not working, is he just...
Speaker 1 No,
Speaker 1 he hangs out with Bud Selig at their barber that they share.
Speaker 1
Building new compounds. Building new compounds.
Yeah. Compound life.
Like I can't imagine Bill Gates waking up.
Speaker 3 Bill Gates also doesn't leave money for his kids.
Speaker 3 That's the most fucked up part.
Speaker 1 You think Bill Gates, wouldn't it be hilarious if Bill Gates woke up and drank coffee and then sat on the toilet just like trolling people on Twitter with a burner account? That would be great.
Speaker 1
I hope he does. He does that.
He probably has like a,
Speaker 1 that would be the most stars are just like us.
Speaker 3 Like the people that are like Steve Jobs, greater than Bill Gates.
Speaker 1
And he's just like, yeah, he's like, yeah. Well, actually.
Yeah. Right, because at the end of the day, he's still human.
He's still without Bill Gates.
Speaker 1 Right, so he probably does get a little pleasure from just like sitting on the pot and maybe going on private mode and firing up huges.
Speaker 1 You think he's really into porn? I don't know, but like it's funny to think about the basic human necessities.
Speaker 1
He's still shit. Like trolling on Twitter and looking at porn, you know, the things that we need to live.
There's more that unites us than divides us, after all.
Speaker 1 He probably just has like an Excel spreadsheet that he pulls up every morning and just sees how many lives he's saved in Africa with his like malaria campaigns and like digging wells and stuff.
Speaker 1 So while, yeah, so while he's taking a shit, he just reminds himself how he's basically a superhero because he saved like a hundred thousand lives today. That's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 That must be a pretty good JO sesh after you look at like, oh, I saved 100,000 people's lives today. Yeah.
Speaker 1
I've earned the right to rub this one out to Tiana Trump. Good for me.
Good for me.
Speaker 1 I would honestly think of Bill Gates as he's more like an Ava Adams, like big tits kind of guy. You think Ava Adams?
Speaker 1 He definitely is into
Speaker 1 he's searching 36 quadruple Ds.
Speaker 1 I like Ava Adams, but she's almost like a little too top-heavy.
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1
let's not shame. I'm just saying, she's very top-heavy.
She's a top-heavy person myself. She probably can't drive her boots.
That's a problem. Get in the way of her hands reaching the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 She has to drive with her feet. Top heaviness is a problem.
Speaker 1
All right. Oh, one last one before we do FAQs.
Kingstay Kings, Stephen A. Smith losing his radio show for Stephen A.
Smith. He got replaced by himself.
He got replaced by himself, Hank.
Speaker 1
They're doing reruns of Stephen A. Smith from what he said that morning.
Yes. They're rebroadcasting.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 they're taking him off his radio show, but they're putting a radio host in his slot who will facilitate just going in and out of Stephen A. Smith clips.
Speaker 1
Kingstay Kings. So the radio host will be like, and this is what Stephen A.
Smith had to say this morning about LeBron. James taking his shoes off and running on the court.
Finesse.
Speaker 1 Let's kick it to that.
Speaker 1 So his radio show is.
Speaker 3 Give me the 10-minute, oh, I gotta do a radio show. Yeah.
Speaker 1
The takes that he gives on TV are also his radio show, and he's getting paid for both. It's incredible.
I mean, when I read that article, like, this guy has it all. So Stephen A.
Smith, way to go.
Speaker 1 Kingstay Kings.
Speaker 1
All right, FAQs. Before, quick shout out, I tweeted this, but Weish Fest is going on in Chicago on Friday night.
We've been associated with them for a long time. They have a great charity.
Speaker 1
It's a huge concert at Bourbon Street. You can buy tickets still.
Weishfest.com. All the proceeds go to child cancer, adolescent cancer.
So do it. Great cause.
Speaker 1 I'll pin the tweet if you want to check it out.
Speaker 1 Some of the guys, Carl, Chuck Naso, they were teammates with him.
Speaker 1
So it's a great cause. We've been talking about it forever, but go check it out, please.
Great concert Friday night. Do it.
Do it. Hank, FAQs.
Speaker 3 Yes, I mentioned it in Fantasy Fuck Boys, but we asked people to send because everyone was tweeting us their Spotify
Speaker 3
records of how many hours and minutes and stuff they listened, and it was just brutal because I was just doing all this mental math in my head. It was a lot of numbers.
Right.
Speaker 1 How many hours are in a week, Hank?
Speaker 3 How many hours are in 23,000 minutes?
Speaker 1 60 minutes. Wait.
Speaker 1
This is too much. 800 hours.
Wait, wait, 2,300?
Speaker 1 40.
Speaker 3
It's like 400. I don't know.
This is my whole point. As I was going through the mentions and stuff, everyone was tweeting it, and I was like, wait a second.
Was this person listening for 700 hours?
Speaker 1 I think they just make those up.
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 3 it was crazy. But for FAQs, what does FAQ even stand for?
Speaker 1 Frequently asked questions.
Speaker 1
I thought thought we were going to fake and say something different. You want to redo that one? No, no, no, that's fine.
What does FAQ stand for? It stands for
Speaker 1 fuck and queef. QIIF.
Speaker 1 Everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, speaking of the Spotify thing, I'm involved in like a Spotify war right now with somebody that has access to my account that's had it for the last like probably four or five years.
Speaker 1 I saw somebody wrote an article about this too, but I've been going through it. Someone in El Salvador has my login, and I haven't bothered to switch it for the last like four years.
Speaker 1 So when it shows me what I listen to, it's like a lot of what I listen to, but then half of them are bands that I've never heard of that play like salsa music. So it's a passive war.
Speaker 1 It's a passive war. Because you can easily win it by just
Speaker 1 changing your password. But every now and again, I listen to what the other person is listening to, and it's happy music, and I'm like, it sounds like they're having a great time.
Speaker 1
My top bands were, I think it was like Fish, Queens, the Stone Age, but for two years in a row, I had Ariana Grande as the top song. So that's pretty cool.
I had catch that on mine. Nice.
Speaker 1
Her new album is awesome. It's not new anymore.
Yeah, it's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3 Two years old. She's a Christmas album.
Speaker 1 She's a Christmas album? She's got a new single out, yeah. Really?
Speaker 1 Fuck, man. She's so awesome.
Speaker 3 Once a service industry employee is no longer on the clock or is out of uniform, etc., at what point is it okay to confront a terrible customer in a normal social setting about how much of a pain in the ass they are?
Speaker 1
I don't think so. I think, no, yes.
I don't think you can. I don't do it all the time.
I think it's tough.
Speaker 1 Out of uniform in the same building, I think it's still tough. You just run the risk.
Speaker 1 Okay, so in life,
Speaker 1
everyone knows the people who are a pain in the ass when it comes to service staff. Like, it just sucks.
Everyone knows that one guy. You probably have one friend or a friend of a friend.
Speaker 1 If you go out to dinner,
Speaker 1 they'll always complain and it's embarrassing and it's terrible. Don't be that guy.
Speaker 1
But the problem is that guy is also the guy who has no problem saying, I want to talk to your manager and take in elevating the issue. So they're one in the same.
That person is one and the same.
Speaker 1 They're also probably the president of their homeowners association and like email you when you leave your lawnmower out in front of your house for more than two hours.
Speaker 1 Here's what you have to do, okay? If you're a server, if you're in the service industry and there's a problem customer, what you're going to want to do is confront them in civilian attire.
Speaker 1 So yes, not wearing your uniform, but find out where they work.
Speaker 1 And then go into their work and then figure out something they're doing wrong and then get mad at them and pay it forward to them. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 So yeah, I would say just be tread lightly because that does feel like a situation where you will get fired 100 times out of 100 times.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, really the moral is like if you're being paid to be there, then you can, then that person has to take all the shit that they get. Right.
Speaker 1
So just if you find them when they're on the clock, they have to take it or else you can escalate it to their manager. And then maybe the two managers can talk.
Right. Like, I hate our employees.
Speaker 3 This person says they listened for 150 hours this year, usually while I'm taking a morning shit, which I guess if you, it's like half an hour shit a day.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, morning time sometimes, you know, you linger, you fall asleep, take a little nap.
Speaker 3 Follow-up. Do you guys shit before showering or are you psychos and do it after?
Speaker 1 I shit when I have to shit.
Speaker 1 Wait,
Speaker 1 why would I say something so controversial yet so brave? Do you guys shit before showering or are you psychos who do it after showering? No, never after.
Speaker 1
I mean, I tried to before, but no, I just shit when I have to shit. If you shit after, you then get back in the shower.
That's crazy. That will stick with you for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1
Like, that's something if you, especially if you're wet, come on. No.
Also, my morning is timed out, so, like, everything is based on when I get out of the shower.
Speaker 1 I have a time, so I know when I have to leave, and it all kind of backs up to the shower. If I get out of the shower and then I have to ship, my entire morning is ruined.
Speaker 1
It's not planned. You just can't do that.
You got to wild.
Speaker 3
This person says they've listened for 12 hours on Spotify, which 12,000 hours, which can't be true. I think they mean minutes.
Their follow-up question was: Have Stella and Leroy met?
Speaker 1
Yes, multiple times. Their boyfriend and girlfriend.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
They're funny. They're Kane and X-Bac.
That's right, yeah.
Speaker 3 This person says they listen at work, but I'm the assistant of the CEO for the company. He also doesn't have a door, so I play this sadistic game where I try as hard as possible not to laugh.
Speaker 3 I've been told my PMT time facial expressions holding back laughter are legendary. He says he's listened for 800 minutes.
Speaker 7 Shout out that guy.
Speaker 3 Outside of any sort of reunion setting, is it ever not douchey to wear a class ring or sports championship ring of any level to have random social event?
Speaker 1 Well, if you went to Texas A ⁇ M or Notre Dame, you have to do it so that you can let everyone know that you went to those universities. Or if you're
Speaker 1 Underwood. Yeah, Harvard 2.
Speaker 1 If you win a Super Bowl in which you played significant minutes, I think you have to wear that almost every time you go out because people are going to be disappointed if you don't wear it.
Speaker 1 Or on the flip side, if you win a Super Bowl Bowl and you had zero to do with it, also you have to wear it every time out.
Speaker 1 Yes, in fact, there was this one dude that I sat next to for I think like three or four different Washington Capitals games, and he had this big NBA Finals ring on.
Speaker 1 And at the fourth game, I asked him, Hey, what's that from? He was like, Oh, it's a referee back in the 1998 finals, and he wears it all the time. Love it.
Speaker 1 If you're an official for a Super Bowl or a championship series, yes, wear it all the time. All the time.
Speaker 3 Sup Vax commentator and drug cat. I've listened for
Speaker 3
3,952 hours this year, and mostly on the bus. Again, it's got to be minutes.
Are you guys going to bench during every in-studio interview now?
Speaker 1
Well, we still don't have the bench press set up. Yeah.
Probably Spider-We're going to do it today.
Speaker 3 He was with PFT during his fire festival.
Speaker 3 But yeah, it'll be in here next week.
Speaker 1
I'm so excited. Are you sure? I can guarantee.
Because you kind of told me it was going to be in here last week or this week.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 3 We were going to do it today, and then Spider didn't get back.
Speaker 1
I don't even care at this point. I think it's actually kind of like the Jimmy Kimmel Matt Damon joke.
And the.
Speaker 1 We just keep pretending we're going to get a bench press.
Speaker 3 The plates just came in today.
Speaker 1 Oh, that's what I was worried about. It must be super expensive to ship weights.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
Shout out to Mobel.
Speaker 1
It's the heaviest thing possible. Yeah.
There's nothing heavier than weights.
Speaker 3 They made customized, amazing bench press.
Speaker 1
It's awesome. We got to get Joe Biden here.
See how much he puts up. His eyes will start bleeding.
Speaker 1 You want to do some push-ups, Jack? Oh, man.
Speaker 3 Last one.
Speaker 3 Are you guys worried about this year's home run derby yet?
Speaker 1
No. No.
Come on. Why? That is so far away.
Speaker 1 Do they tip pitches in the home run derby? Jesus Christ. Like, that's...
Speaker 1
I can't even think about... Come on.
Don't ask stupid questions. You know that we're not future guys.
I think we dodged the one bullet that we're really going to have to worry about last year.
Speaker 1 That was... If I was going to put my tongue inside Big Cat's butthole, it was going to be in the year of our Lord 2019.
Speaker 1 Christian Yalich, he doesn't have it in him no chance no and pft's right they he needs help from the center fielder with the with uh
Speaker 1 or the right field thing yeah or the left fielder or anyone i need to see video of his eyes before i can confirm yes uh all right that's our show we'll see everyone on monday football embrace it not much left cover
Speaker 1 for the cover live do it right now okay let's see so so for the artwork on monday trig made he made an awesome snow one for when there's a snow game but there's no snow in the forecast for this weekend
Speaker 1 What if it's snowmen made out of footballs? What if it's...
Speaker 3 No, we're going no snow theme. We're going to use that for when it's a snowy weekend.
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 we should have it be
Speaker 1 the
Speaker 1 bracket because it's the final four is coming out for college football. And it could be me, PFT, Leroy, and Stella
Speaker 1
in each of the spots. And what about footballs, though? There should be footballs on them.
Put a football in the middle.
Speaker 3
Right in the middle. Yeah, that would be like the championship.
Right.
Speaker 1 The winner gets a football.
Speaker 1
But that's an awesome terminal. All right.
Love you guys.
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