Football. Week 10 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Done Chains, And Coach O's Big Win

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take,

Speaker 1 football week 10 recap, plus some college football recap. LSU beat Bama.
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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, November 11th,

Speaker 1 week 10.

Speaker 1 Diace. Is it the Ocho? Is it Diace? Deuce.

Speaker 1 Dies. Dies.

Speaker 1 Week 10.

Speaker 1 Simana, DS.

Speaker 1 We start in the windy city where Cocaine Mitch Trubisky shut down Marvin Matt Jones' offensive campaign. Jeff Epstein Driscoll didn't kill himself, but haha Bill Clinton Dix and the Bears defense did.

Speaker 1 Club dub is back open as there is no Quit Kowski in the Monsters of the Midway. Nick, that is.
Bears 20, Lions 13. What? Whip! Whip!

Speaker 1 And Cincinnati, where the Red Hot Ravens meet the rock-bottom Bengals.

Speaker 1 Hey, teech, yeah, Boom? Is this the Ravens backfield or the New York City Athletic Club in mid-December? You're too much, Boom.

Speaker 1 Well, Robert Griffin, the turn, was a quality number two behind Kendrick Lamar Jackson, who hooked up with the Hollywood Brown for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Coach Zach Eric Taylor says full-eyes, clear farts always lose as the Bengals stay witless. Ravens 49 to Centennial Bengals, 13.

Speaker 1 Whiff!

Speaker 1 We go up I-71 to Cleveland where Freddie Mercury Kitchen says we are the off-season champions and he just needs somebody. Ooh, somebody.
Can anybody find Freddy? Somebody to chub.

Speaker 1 Frank Gore Vidal has had a long career but struggled to produce any quality screenplays.

Speaker 1 Stop me if you've heard this before but the Bills missed an important kick in a game-winning situation as Steven burning down the house

Speaker 1 missed two crucial field goals and the talking heads will be discussing his job security after this one. Brown 16, Bills 13.
Some spread. Whoop! Whoop!

Speaker 1 And the big easy, where Brees are dying at an alarming rate as they're missing Teddy Bridgewater with claims that Drew is too waspy, even though he'll get a yellow jacket one day.

Speaker 1 Alvin Camaradona in the Saints offense was plugged up worse than a nose after a night at an Argentinian nightclub.

Speaker 1 Dan Quinn Snyder has his defense jazzed up and ready to go in this big match, and his job is safe as there won't be a Quintrom head coach this week. Falcons 26, the sites, none.

Speaker 1 To the Meowdalands for the Catball at Pet Life Stadium. This is a feline town.
No room for Saquon Bark, Bark, Barkley. Sam Darnold Schwartzenega said, I'll be Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach.

Speaker 1 As he looked at the New York receiving core and said, Armani isn't walking through that door. It's not a tomah.
The Jates Giants head coach, Pat Sherman,

Speaker 1 detects serious heat on his seat. And we're not talking about a Mike Francesa.
I got caught in between a Buma and a Schwarzenegger. We're not talking about a Mike Francesa office champion, folks.

Speaker 1 Speaking of hot seats,

Speaker 1 the Jets coach Adam Gasolina temporarily put out the fire Jets 3427. Nearly boom.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jamie Swiss in Temple, Florida. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 It's a coach, my lord, looking sharp as a sword. Oh my god, that's where Kingsbury.

Speaker 1 Come on, kindler, don't be a liar.

Speaker 1 You really need for five eight. You're going to get your GM fire.
fired.

Speaker 1 Bucks 30.

Speaker 1 Cardinals 27. Now they both.

Speaker 1 In the frozen tundra we go, where Kyle Tim Allen looked up at the sky and said, officers, I know who provided this cocaine.

Speaker 1 Aaron Brockovich Rogers said, now that Eddie Lacey is gone, someone in this backfield needs to have a couple C cups.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Instagram made his influence known as Aaron Jones, brought the bang energy to the Packers offense, and Danny Vitale led the way, smashing that follow button.

Speaker 1 It was Aron's day, but not Rivera's, as the Packers season was shucked up by the Lambo Snow Club. Packers 24, the Packers 16.

Speaker 1 We are the Dolphins, hey, hey, hey. Look at us jumping, hey, hey, hey.
We have come to the top for the first time.

Speaker 1 Swimming together as we sing our rhymes.

Speaker 1 This is a new world beyond our dreams. We are the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey, look at us jumping. Hey, hey, hey.
Dolphins 16, Colts 13. We finish in the Stealth City where Mike Domlin was playing chess while Sean McVay was playing Heckers.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Mason, don't you know I'm human too?

Speaker 1 Why you gotta be so rude off? Brought the magic with an exclamation point, and the Rams are regretting marrying that girly.

Speaker 1 off Fitz Patrick Swayze dropped in on Callie Bro, Jared Goff's wave, scoring six-point breaks on the way to a Steelers win. Steelers 17, the Rams 12.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Week 10 in the books.

Speaker 1 Almost. Kirk Cousins has won a primetime game.

Speaker 1 Now, Kirk Cousins, should we say Kirk Cousins won a primetime game, or should we say Dalvin Cook won a prime time game and Jason Garrett's Ineptitude won a primetime game?

Speaker 1 Or Ezekiel Elliott lost a primetime game.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 basically the entire Cowboys coaching staff being like, hey, Dak Prescott is in the zone. He's doing his hip motions and looking like an awesome, awesome quarterback.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure that we hand the ball off a couple times in this last drive to establish the run when we need a touchdown. You have to, because that opens up the play action on the Hail Mary leaves

Speaker 1 if you hand the ball off to Zeke. The clip of Dak before the game warming up, activating his hips, firing the glutes off, irony.
He was dancing around like like

Speaker 1 it was like hips don't lie. Yeah, hips don't lie.

Speaker 1 He looked like Elaine Bennis on meth, if I could make a reference that Mike Floria would understand from Seinfeld. And everyone's father.

Speaker 1 He was, it looked so funny when he was doing that, just like twitching his hips. I'm going to start doing that before we tape.
Just getting your hips going. Just getting my hips going.
Firing them up.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 we should say that the Vikings deserve all the credit going into Dallas Sunday night.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys are off a bye, and they have an impressive win, look very strong on both sides of the ball, do just enough on defense against Dak, who is who is playing unbelievably.

Speaker 1 Do you feel foolish by making a mockery of the Dunchain and having the Vikings be Dunchained?

Speaker 1 The Dunchain's no longer a real thing. I think what I need to accept is that Kirk Cousins, there was a change.

Speaker 1 I don't want to overuse the M-word change, but there was a change in what he did when he apologized to Adam Thielen. I think they're five and one after Kirk.

Speaker 1 I always said that he was a sorry quarterback. Adam Thielen.
I didn't mean like apology-wise, but now I think I almost, in order to get over this, I need to apologize to Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 And the dun chain. And the dungeons.
Because you've made a mockery of it. I can't dun chain anymore when you dun chain a team that is very much in the running here.

Speaker 1 Like, who's the best team in the NFC?

Speaker 1 The Saints. Are you going to say the Saints who have scored, will get to them? They've scored three games this year.
They've scored zero touchdowns. Yeah.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 49ers? Okay. 49ers are the scenes.
Probably. Yeah, but like, my point is, there are a lot of teams in the NFC where you could look and be like, eh, they might have a flaw.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the Vikings, you basically look at them and you're like, ah, their flaw is Kirk Cousins. But the rest of their team is pretty good.
And they remember they had a tight end this week, too. Yes.

Speaker 1 Kyle Rudolph

Speaker 1 Country caught two touchdowns. Yes.
And a two-point conversion. So I think the Vikings, my bigger point is the Vikings definitely need to be taken for real in terms of the NFC.

Speaker 1 Like, they are a team that could beat anyone in my mind. I don't think

Speaker 1 there's not one team in the NFC where you're like, man, that team, besides maybe the 49ers, and this will be a big game on Monday night, but

Speaker 1 the top five, six teams in the NFC, you're like, they could all, if they get hot at the right time, they could go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Isn't it such a bonus going into a Monday where there's a game that we're looking forward to? It feels like the week is twice as long when there's a good Monday night game that we have.

Speaker 1 There's actually Monday night football, if you've taken a look, peek ahead, actually, there's a really good run coming up. Like we we got a bunch of really good games.

Speaker 1 They should flex that Dolphins Cincinnati Bengals game into a Monday night football game. Yeah, that would be great, too, just to mix it up a little bit.
And

Speaker 1 not that anyone cares, but Hank, would you like to talk about it real quick? Sure, we can talk about it. I'm making a mockery of your little fantasy factory.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Football Factory.

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Big Cat and PFC are in the league. They're winning eight straight games, first in the league.
I hate playing them this week.

Speaker 3 We're in a battle right now. Right now, we have Jimmy Garoppolo and Russell Wilson decides the game saying it out loud.

Speaker 1 But you guys sat three players. Yeah, we had, well, we didn't sit three players.
We had three players in a bye week. We knew about it.
We knew that you were holding it from us.

Speaker 1 We were waiting to hear from you. You didn't text us till 12:22 this morning.
Uh-huh. Letting us know we've got three players that are in byes.
And guess what we did? Absolutely nothing. Nothing.

Speaker 1 Don't mess with chemistry.

Speaker 1 This is the worst segment we've ever done.

Speaker 3 All I'm saying is if you guys beat me, if you guys beat me this week, I'm going to have to retire from this podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh, that'd be a shame. Oh, damn.
So we wouldn't have to talk about the fantasies? Yeah. And we wouldn't have to rearrange the studio twice a week.
Oh. Oh.
Wow. I mean, he's not wrong.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say that. He's not wrong.

Speaker 1 I mean, everything feels weird.

Speaker 1 I do, going back to the Sunday night game, I agree. The Vikings are legit.
I do apologize to the Vikings. Okay.
I apologize, and I feel like if I one-up Kirk with my apologies, then

Speaker 1 that will take away all the magic from him. Can you retroactively undun chain them for now? I will, yeah, I will take the dungeon off.
Okay, because then I feel like we can get back to it.

Speaker 1 It always felt like a it was like a you were you were basically shooting from half court. I was you're doing a cocky.
It was a cocky move to be like Vikings done week two. It was a heat check.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Vikings won, but Alabama lost. So it's kind of a mixed bag for people who really love cousins this weekend.
Ooh, nice. I was like, nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like 1.75 just because I feel like Rick has done it.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 I did love how Mike Zimmer looked. I love the general aesthetic of him.
We were talking about that.

Speaker 1 He basically is a guy who temperature, and I think everyone knows, everyone has this person in their life. You know, it's probably your uncle who drinks a little too much, a little heavy.

Speaker 1 Any temperature outside of 65 to 75 degrees, and it looks like he is a sunburn. So it's cold, extreme cold.
And when we're talking extreme cold, we're talking 58. Extreme hot, that's a 79-degree day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He just looks very flushed.
They practice indoors. They play their games indoors.
Well, they practice indoors for the most part. You're going to be playing a dome game.

Speaker 1 And somehow he manages to always be sunburned. Yes.
Like he showers an iodine, which he probably does, knowing his outlook on toughness and just hygiene in general. So that wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 But the Vikings are a legit team. They're very, very good.
The Cowboys are, they're my most confusing team, I think.

Speaker 1 I actually don't think they're that confusing. And here's why.
I think that Zach Prescott is a franchise quarterback, but them as a full team, not that good.

Speaker 1 And the teams they've beaten have been bad. And they beat up on like the Sisters of the Poor.
And then when they have to take a step up in class, they look like shit.

Speaker 1 And I think the Eagles will win that division. I think the Eagles will win that division because they're now tied 5-4,

Speaker 1 and the remaining game is in Philadelphia. But if you look at who the Cowboys have left, they have to go to the Lions at the Patriots.
They have the Rams, the Eagles.

Speaker 1 So they, I mean, it's going to be, there's some losses on there. It's going to be.
So I think the Eagles will win that division.

Speaker 1 And I think Jason Garrett will ultimately be fired, which he should have been like four years ago. But

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones just forgot to do it. This week, he's definitely going to start doing some press conferences being like, what the fuck is up with Jason Garrett?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we're on, I think this is a five-game streak of Jason Garrett being shown during a game. He probably gets,

Speaker 1 I would estimate, eight to ten minutes worth of FaceTime on those extreme close-ups, and he still hasn't said a word while the camera's on. He still has not talked.

Speaker 1 He likes to hold up one finger saying we're going for one. Clap.
He loves to call for an extra point after a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Clap put up the thing behind, you know, the play card in front of his face, but he's not saying anything behind it. He's just putting it up just so that people can't see that he's not saying anything.

Speaker 1 Because they don't want to be like, hey, why is that guy never saying anything? He's the head coach.

Speaker 1 Where did this paranoia come from where every NFL head coach thinks that there's somebody lip reading him at all times?

Speaker 1 I actually don't think it's about the play calling. I think that NFL head coaches say like, fuck you to their quarterbacks so often that they they don't want to make that a big deal.

Speaker 1 And it happens in baseball all the time too. Pitchers talking into the glove.
That's just a cool thing. Yeah, it looks pretty sweet.
We should do a whole podcast where we're just talking gloves.

Speaker 1 Speaking into our gloves, HR.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do we have any gloves? Do we have any? I've got one at my desk for my full kiddo. This is me talking into a hat right now.
Can you change? There's no... So you could be saying anything.

Speaker 1 I could be literally. When we do the subtitles, put in a bunch of

Speaker 1 racial slurs underneath

Speaker 1 what Big Kat's saying right now. Hank, you're a piece of shit.
You're not even paying attention to the show because you've been on this stupid Raptors Lakers game. No one knows what I was saying.

Speaker 1 Well, Biquette, that was really racist.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get into the games.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Ravens Bengals. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Lamar Jackson is so good, he got Michael Vick's name trending. That is pretty good.
Vick was trending. That's how good Lamar Jackson is.
That's how special he is.

Speaker 1 He is out of this world like Mike Vick was. That run he had where he did the spin move and ran through the entire Bengals defense, which stinks, but still was incredible.

Speaker 1 And they had the three, the Heisman backfield. Yeah, do you think that that was the best spin move of all time in an NFL game?

Speaker 1 I was thinking through the best spin moves in sports, and Braxton Miller against Virginia Tech. Do you remember that? That was a good one.
Joe Madden against Joe West when he was arguing. Yes,

Speaker 1 and then Lamar. I actually think that Lamar Jackson could run faster.
A little recency bias, but yeah, I mean, that was an unbelievable spin move. I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 I think he could run faster doing nothing but spin moves than Eli Manning could in a straight line. Yes.
Conventionally.

Speaker 1 He's incredible to watch.

Speaker 1 Also, this new thing that he does, it's not new, but

Speaker 1 you don't see it in the NFL ever because first you don't see pitch plays ever. But Lamar going like six yards down the field and then pitching it.
It's the rugby offload.

Speaker 1 To Mark Ingram going full speed ahead is unstoppable. So I, here's a hot take.
You ready for one? Hit me.

Speaker 1 This win by the Ravens today was more impressive than their wins against the Patriots and the Seahawks because this was a classic letdown spot, a classic spot where the Ravens were going to read their press clippings and say, we're going to be in the Super Bowl, and we just killed the Patriots on Sunday night football, and the Bengals are coming off a buy, and they have Ryan Finley coming in, and they're going to spark the offense, and the Ravens are going to sleepwalk their way to maybe like

Speaker 1 a three-point win with a field goal to end the game. No.
They demolished them from the first play on, and having that, like the teams.

Speaker 1 The mark of a good team is crushing the bad teams. I really think that.

Speaker 1 Anyone can win. The NFL is so hard to win.
If you put two very good teams up against each other, it's pretty much going to be a coin flip.

Speaker 1 But when you put a really good team against a bad team, if they don't crush them, I'm going to be like, you know what? That team's not what I thought it was.

Speaker 1 I think the one flaw in your argument is that these Bengals are a team that will get crushed by everybody. They're actively trying to lose.
So, yeah,

Speaker 1 even the Ravens game game game game game could have been a letdown game. It could have been a letdown, but it wasn't.
I think, I mean, the Ravens obviously look awesome.

Speaker 1 I think that they're going to win the Super Bowl. I really do believe that.
Whoa. I think that

Speaker 1 this was actually Robert Griffin's Super Bowl. That one play that he had

Speaker 1 was in the Super Bowl for RG3. There was a moment when he caught that offload from Lamar

Speaker 1 where you saw him consider it. You saw him think about doing something really stupid.

Speaker 1 You always see that when Griffin's running the ball. He thinks about running a straight line towards the linebacker a lot.
And he's like, I can run through this guy. And he didn't do it.

Speaker 1 That's probably

Speaker 1 the best compliment I can give to this Ravens team is that Robert Griffin has played offensive snaps and not gotten injured yet. Yeah, it's true.
It is very true.

Speaker 1 He played many offensive snaps because Lamar Jackson had six drives today. One ended the first half, the other five touchdowns.
That's pretty damn good. It is really good, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty damn good. So the Ravens,

Speaker 1 what they did today, very, very impressed. I've been impressed with them the last three weeks.
Ravens fans still hate me. That's fine.
I'll own that. I'll wear that.

Speaker 1 We got to talk about the other side. The Bengals are the worst team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And should we start, we're going going to talk about college football later, but should we start the Joe Burrow going home?

Speaker 1 He's from Athens, Ohio. I think he grew up a Browns fan, but that's still only like two and a half hours away.
So, Joe Burrow back to the state of Ohio as a Cincinnati Bengal number one pick.

Speaker 1 I think we could, it's never too early to start a narrative, Big Town. Yeah, that's a good narrative, too, right? That's a very good narrative.
Hometown Kid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hometown kid coming back to make good. I hope that he doesn't go to the Bengals.

Speaker 1 I really would not like to see it because I like Joe Burrow. Yeah.
He's a big one. But I mean, he's good.
I mean, the Dolphins would be. When you're picking number one.
You're picking number one.

Speaker 1 It's not going to be great. Yeah, it's not going to be a good situation no matter what.
I think.

Speaker 1 I like, too, that we just decided Joe Burrow's going number one because he beat Tua. That's it.
I decided the number one pick.

Speaker 1 And that would be great if Tua went to Cincinnati, though. Ooh.

Speaker 1 That would be something that's going to be. His helicopter dad had to try Skyline Chili? Yeah, say this.
I think that Tua would really look awesome in a Bengals uniform. Yes, he would.

Speaker 1 That would look sick. Yes, he would.
I'm kind of rooting for that. I want to say something nice about the Bengals because I feel like we need to move off the Dolphins, say something nice about them.

Speaker 1 They're nice on their own. They're on a winning streak right now.
Killing people. We'll get to them in a little bit, but the Bengals, I think it's pretty cool the way that they're handling the A.J.

Speaker 1 Green situation. Yeah.
They're just like, oh,

Speaker 1 he was going to play today. He practiced a little bit, but he felt bad and warm-up, so we're not going to play him.
They're just like doing him a solid.

Speaker 1 They're like, we get the fact that you don't want to play on this team. We don't want you to play because you're too good, and we might accidentally win a game if you get out there.

Speaker 1 So So we're going to pay you to help us tank by not playing. Yes.
And another nice thing about the Bengals,

Speaker 1 we at Barstool Headquarters, we have six TVs and DirecTV. There were seven games on.
They were so bad right from the jump that we didn't have to keep that game on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was really nice of them. Plus, every single play was on the red zone channel because it was Lamar doing something incredible.
So you got to watch the entire game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bengals are, they are doing a great job of being under the radar with how bad they're tanking? Yeah, it's a good job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like the stories have been about the Dolphins, the stories have been about the Jets, but the Bengals, you guys stink, and you're doing a great job with it. So keep it up.

Speaker 1 I think that's what you're intentionally trying to do.

Speaker 1 And if you're not, you've got to lean into it at this point. Yep.
And this was the plan. This is always the point.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Trust the process.
Yes. We never wanted to win.

Speaker 1 I'll nitpick Lamar real quick. You see him wearing sunglasses after the game? Yeah, I like that.
It's a bullshit move. No, I like that.
Wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 1 You can't look somebody in in the eye. No, I like that.
It looks cool. Amateur move.
They were cool sunglasses. They were actually very cool.

Speaker 1 They were sunglasses that if I wore them, people would be like, that guy sucks and is a tryhard. And if anybody that's like above the age of 30 wore them, you're like, that guy's a cop.

Speaker 1 But Lamar Jackson wore them and it was very cool. Very cool.
All right. Bills Browns.
The Browns season has been saved in spite of Freddie Kitchens' best efforts to ruin it yet again.

Speaker 1 That was essentially, Freddie Kitchens has put on a masterclass on how not to coach a football team.

Speaker 1 Whether you're talking about the timeout he called in the third quarter, which I still, we still don't have an answer for.

Speaker 1 The Bills were going for it on fourth and four with like three seconds left before the end of the quarter. I think they were trying to get everyone off sides.

Speaker 1 He called the timeout with three seconds left. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just to make sure that I even said what we were watching, I was like, is there some extreme wind we don't know about that he's trying to get them to go the opposite?

Speaker 1 Like he's trying to get them to run the fourth down play going into the wind. Like, nope, it's actually not a windy day at all.
That's the student section on the other side.

Speaker 1 We want to be close to them to get a big round of applause before we hit the play. It was great.
It was stupid. It was really, really dumb.

Speaker 1 And then goal line. And then the goal line situation.

Speaker 1 From 0 for 8. 0 for 8 from the one-yard line.
That's the worst thing that's ever happened in Cleveland on the one-yard line. One

Speaker 1 0 for 8 on the one-yard line. That's so impressive.
They got two penalties that bailed them out, and they still couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 And then the next time they go down and they're within the five-yard line and they go for three and then on fourth down they're about to go for it they get a false start and they kick a field goal so they basically went uh oh for 11 and then kicked a field goal I'm gonna chalk it up to the fact that they changed the markings on the end zone so they went from horizontal brown and orange stripes to vertical brown and orange stripes across the end zone that's what they were all last year when they went five and three And then they changed it this offseason.

Speaker 1 How'd you know that? If you're the Cleveland Browns, they were tweeting about it. There was something on Twitter about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you're the Cleveland Browns and you go five and three to close out a season, that is the best thing that your franchise has done since relocating. Yes.

Speaker 1 Or since coming back after the relocation to Baltimore. Why would you change a single thing about anything related to the team facility?

Speaker 1 It's one of those situations where you're like, don't touch anything. Nobody move.
Things are going well. And then they just completely changed the entire look of the end zone.

Speaker 1 Things are going great for the Browns. They have won 10 games in the last 26.
In the previous 64, they won 10 games. So things are fucking awesome for the Browns.
Swagger Jr. is 1-0.

Speaker 1 Comparatively speaking, they are on, these are the golden ages of the Cleveland Browns. So Freddie Kitchens, one last thing.
Freddy Kitchens is fucking everything up.

Speaker 1 Nick Chubb was on fire, and then he just stopped running him. I don't understand what's going on.
You knew that the Bills could be run on. You knew you had Nick Chubb.
Freddie Kitchens is...

Speaker 1 I'm actually at the point now where I'm worried about Baker being like Baker won this game with that drive in the end.

Speaker 1 If Baker wins games, he's keeping Freddy Kitchens alive. Uh-huh.
So at some point, Baker has to like look in the mirror and be like,

Speaker 1 Should I not try to win this game so that Freddy Kitchens does get fired? And maybe he's going to ruin everything. Maybe Baker's hand got much better this week.
Oh, yeah. As first reported by...

Speaker 1 Have you heard anything about that? Hank.

Speaker 1 Nope. How's Baker's hand? How's it going? His hand doing all right? Looks good.
Yeah, look at that. You report he had a broken hand.

Speaker 1 Well, that was in week one, so it takes the metatarsals or what are the metacarpals about two months to heal.

Speaker 3 I don't really want to talk about broken hands this weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 bad. The pop pass.
You see the pop pass that was returning. They thought it was a fumble.
Yes. I love pop passes.

Speaker 1 Pop passes are cool because even if you're an incompetent play caller, as Freddie Kitchens tends to be from time to time, if you run a cool pop pass, people will slap, or they're more likely to slap the mad scientist tag on you.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 a new age thing. It's a modern offense if you run a a pop pass.
Yeah, and also it counts for passing yards, which is great because they don't do anything and you're like, ooh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 Do you think Freddy just outsmarts himself all the time? No, I think he's legitimately a dumb, dumb person. So

Speaker 1 it's very easy to outsmart. I think Freddy thinks to himself, if something's going really well, you hear that banging sound is back.

Speaker 1 We're going to flush the air.

Speaker 1 All business Pete, tell him to shut the fuck up. I think when something's going good for Freddy Kitchens, he always thinks to himself, they're about to be onto you, Freddie.

Speaker 1 They're going to know what you're going to go to. He's picking up and switching up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's essentially just playing a rock, paper, scissors, shoot game with the opposing coach, but the opposing coach doesn't know that they're playing a game. So he's like, ooh.

Speaker 1 He thinks I'm going to throw a rock.

Speaker 1 He thinks I'm going to keep running Nick Chubb because it's working. Better start throwing it deep with no offensive line.
Right. Really fuck him up.

Speaker 1 And as far as the Bills go, I feel like every game that they play is teens versus teens on teens for the final score. Yes.
It's like always 19, 16. Yeah, always 19.
17, 16.

Speaker 1 The Bills are, I don't want to say that they're schizophrenic yet, but I don't think, I still think they're going to make the playoffs, but they probably have the most glaring weaknesses of

Speaker 1 issues in the AFC. They're a work in progress.

Speaker 1 The Bills are the classic team that if you're a Bills fan, you can sell yourself on, hey, we want to make the playoffs because we're building something here. It's not a finished product.

Speaker 1 That's not what we're going for. Everyone knows it's not a finished product.

Speaker 1 They're not going to be competing for a Super Bowl this year, but let's get the the guys into the playoffs, get the young guys some playoff reps, and then next year we're ready for it.

Speaker 1 Did you see Sean McDermott before the game? He was rocking the Peaky Blinders hat. That's a new thing this year.
Everyone's rocking. Matt Nagy did it, so it made it really stupid.
That's very cool.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, let's go to that game, the Lions and the Bears. Congratulations.
Yes, the Bears are back. Mitch Trubisky,

Speaker 1 they always say about your quarterback, it's how you finish halves and start halves. Well, he had a touchdown to end the first half, and he had a touchdown to start the second half.
And guess what?

Speaker 1 The other thing they say is the mark of a true team, true good team, is to find a way to not lose five in a row. That's right.
And they did that. They found a way to not lose five in a row.

Speaker 1 Maybe it was because Matt Stafford broke his back,

Speaker 1 literally broke his back, and he's so fucking tough that he wanted to play. He didn't know that.

Speaker 1 To keep him out, 163-game streak broken.

Speaker 1 Well, his back is broken. His back is also broken.
Also, 163-game streak broken.

Speaker 1 That is so impressive as a quarterback who has played his entire career behind shitty offensive lines and getting the shit kicked out of him.

Speaker 1 So, credit to Matt Stafford, but thank you for Jeff Driscoll because Mitch Trubisky wasn't the worst quarterback on the field. There you go.
And

Speaker 1 this is one of those games where you're like, you got to find a way to win a close game. So you can take solace in that.
Club dubs back open. Club dub's back open.

Speaker 1 It was a divisional game. It's hard to win a divisional game in the NFL.
So congratulations. Okay, so I got a question about Club Dubs.

Speaker 1 So I declared Club Dub dead when John Gruden mocked it in England.

Speaker 1 Matt Nagy said afterwards, of course we're going to keep doing it. That's who we are.
What happens when the Bears are like week 16 and they're

Speaker 1 whatever it will be, whatever the numbers are.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're six and nine, and it's week 17 and they win.

Speaker 1 Seven and nine. Seven and nine.

Speaker 1 Do they do Club Dub? That's who they are. That's who they are.
That's the problem with with saying that's who you are.

Speaker 1 It's like, eventually, we're going to get to a point where Club Dub is going to be that club that everyone stopped going to because the bouncers started busting everyone for cocaine in the bathroom, and everyone's like, eh, we're not going here anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's too hard. That's the new Club Dub.
Yeah, they're going to be people just like throwing up in trash cans in the corner. Just the worst of the worst.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, oh, it's the bridge and tunnel crew here. We're not going to this club anymore.
That's club dub. It's not cool anymore.
Yeah, it's not. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think that you got to let them have some fun. And

Speaker 1 you beat Jeff Driscoll. Who should be a a NASCAR driver? Yeah, Jeff Driscoll, great NASCAR name.
He's got Moxie, too. Also, Moxie-ish.

Speaker 1 I did a deep dive into Jeff Driscoll this morning when my world was thrown upside down. I knew I had to beat Jeff Driscoll today

Speaker 1 from the same town as Blake Bortles. Okay.
Rival high schools. Blake put a fucking 50 burger on him his senior year.
55-14. Suck that, Jeff Driscoll.

Speaker 1 Was Driscoll recruited to UCF? Jeff Driscoll was, he went to Florida, and he was pretty much known as the best recruit in Florida at the time. He stinks.
They got that wrong. He stinks.

Speaker 1 They got that one absolutely. Yeah, I mean, he did one of my favorite plays in all of football.
Actually, it might be my favorite play that's not successful play.

Speaker 1 So obviously shovel passes, successful shovel pass is my favorite. But the unsuccessful favorite play I have is when the quarterback runs like five yards past the line of scrimmage and still throws.

Speaker 1 And yeah, that is so, always makes me laugh. When everyone in the stadium knows that it's not going to, it's count, except for the quarterback.
The opposite of an Orlovsky.

Speaker 1 We're talking about people that can make things trend. Anytime a quarterback comes close to running out of the back of the end zone, Orlovsky

Speaker 1 catches some strays and trends on Twitter for a second. Oh, yeah, he gets mad, too.
He searches for himself. He does.
Yeah, he gets it.

Speaker 1 So there were six straight punts in this game. That was a lot of fun.
No, that's

Speaker 1 Big Ten football. You had to know that was going to happen.
In this game, I mean, the Bears

Speaker 1 are like their offense in the first quarter is, they just want to feel out their opponent by going three and out as many times as possible. That's just kind of the plan.

Speaker 1 It's like Matt Nagy's like, hey, here's what we're going to do, guys. We're going to make sure we do no yards, positive yards.
We're going to make sure we look really, really bad.

Speaker 1 Maybe throw the ball into the ground and maybe like a two-yard run up the middle.

Speaker 1 Let's do that three consecutive drives, and then we will start trying to play call. Playing possum.
And at the same time, you're tiring out their offense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they're not going to have any gas in the second half. Also of note, Tariq Cohen scored a touchdown.
I don't know what he was doing. I think he was shushing the crowd, which makes no sense.

Speaker 1 The home crowd. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 why wouldn't we boo? You guys have sucked this year. Wait, he was shushing the crowd that was

Speaker 1 cheering for them, but I think he was shushing, being like, you guys are haters. Oh, you guys booed us last time.
You booed us at our worst, which is exactly what you should do if you're a fan.

Speaker 1 So I don't know what, maybe I read that wrong. I think you should respect the offenses of the players.

Speaker 1 Never boo. It's very weird.

Speaker 1 So, so the Bears, overall,

Speaker 1 next Sunday night, they're playing the Rams in L.A.

Speaker 1 If they win that game, I will be all the way back. I love this.
I love that you're talking yourself into it. Okay, so here's what they have.
If they beat the Rams, which they can do.

Speaker 1 Of course they can do. They would be 5-5 if they beat the Rams.
They have the Giants at home. That's a win.
They have the Lions in Detroit Thanksgiving Day. If it's Jeff Driscoll again, that's a win.

Speaker 1 I like your chances. They are now going into December 7-5.

Speaker 1 Ooh, you hear that sound? Cowboys at home Thursday night, the next Thursday night. That's a win.
That's 8-5. All they got to do is go 2-1 against the Packers, Chiefs, and Vikings.
Easy. That's 10-6.

Speaker 1 Hank. Hank, you see what's happening right now?

Speaker 1 We are getting

Speaker 1 a potential suicidal big cat. Oh, yeah.
Coming back.

Speaker 1 Hold up.

Speaker 1 All we need is that next Sunday night. That's the state.

Speaker 1 If the Bears lose next Sunday night, I will not be hurt because I have not.

Speaker 1 That is the door I have to walk through to believe again. Okay.

Speaker 1 If they get back to 500, knowing that they have the Giants and Lions on deck, I will be all the way back in on the Bears making it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Next Sunday is the biggest game in Bears' franchise history. I am such a good friend to you that I am going to be rooting so hard for the Bears because I want to see you happy next Sunday.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. They had three straight TD drives.
Pat Hart just broke into a thousand pieces. How do you like that? Three straight TD drives.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Has anyone, any other team ever done that in the history of NFL? Probably not. Jamar Jackson.
Do you think that this is a good thing for Matt Patricia's career? Like his longevity, that staff.

Speaker 1 He's done, by the way. You think Matt.

Speaker 1 Oh, big D-O-N-E. But if you have a backup quarterback,

Speaker 1 you can say

Speaker 1 that's why I lost these games. That's the PYPFT defense.
That defense stinks.

Speaker 1 When Mitch Trubisky and Matt Nagy can put together three consecutive offensive touchdowns,

Speaker 1 you're done. So you guys scored, what, like 40, 45, 45, 50 points? 20 points.
20 points. We dropped a 20 burger.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a 20 taco.

Speaker 1 Listen, baby steps. But yeah,

Speaker 1 Matt Patricia is firmly on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 I think it might be it for him. What? His defense is not good, Hank.
He was brought in to be the defensive coach. I don't know if you know this, but he was the defensive coordinator on the Patriots.

Speaker 1 So maybe sometimes it takes a little bit longer for those coaches to get the ball rolling. Like, Bill Barrick.

Speaker 3 Biggie's doing a much better job than some of these other coaches that haven't been fired yet.

Speaker 1 So it's like, if you're like who, name names?

Speaker 3 Matt Nagy.

Speaker 1 Whoa, Matt Nagy won Coach of the Year last year. That was last year.
When I say it, it's fine. So what have you done for me

Speaker 1 league? Wait, listen, I can make fun of him. Did you? Damn Quinn.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He's just

Speaker 1 win. Win.
Win. Did you just say that? Three straight wins you just listed.
You say that Matt Patricia is doing a better job than Matt Nagy, the coach that he lost to literally today.

Speaker 1 Yes. And Matt Nagy won Coach of the Year and won the NFC North.
Again, I can say things about Matt Nagy. He's a clown, he's a cocky mark driving.
Matt Patricia has progressed.

Speaker 1 What? How have they progressed? They've played pretty good this year. Okay.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Matt Nagy put together three consecutive touchdown drives on Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia's

Speaker 1 not aware of this? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I'm such a Patriots diehard.

Speaker 3 I'm not sure the people that have been on the show.

Speaker 1 It's disrespectful. I'm not even sure.
I don't like it. Oh, y'all.
I don't like it when coaches are disloyal to Bill Belichick. That's what I don't like.

Speaker 1 And the Lions got fucked over by the refs twice. They actually realistically over 500.
That is true. Listen, I was someone.
They're not on the hot seat. I was someone who was disloyal.

Speaker 3 The Lions is a strong word, I think.

Speaker 1 I think he's on the hot seat. I honestly do.
I think, judging from Lions fans that I follow on Twitter, I have a couple Lions fans, friends.

Speaker 1 I think the defensive performance is putting one on the hot seat. I really do.
All right. Okay.

Speaker 1 He probably won't because the Fords don't usually fire coaches that early in contracts because they don't want to pay everyone. But

Speaker 1 there's going to be some talk. Who else are you going to get, though? That's the thing.
Who's going to replace Matt Patricia? Who would be

Speaker 1 possibly an upgrade?

Speaker 1 How quickly is that going to start, by the way? Oh, it's already started.

Speaker 1 It has begun. The second that he showed him on TV, I actually...
Bret Piloma. I'm staying a little woke on that.
Greg Chiano, who, by the way... Rutgers.
Now, I heard a tasty little rumor. Rutgers.

Speaker 1 I should say Leroy heard a tasty little rumor last week. And that was, was, remember how Chiano got fired or he quit, spent more time with his family, that whole thing last offseason? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he actually, I'm told, had a conversation with the Patriots' front office, whether that's Belichick or whoever. They said, would you leave if Rutgers offer you the job?

Speaker 1 He said, yeah, I would leave. And Belichick was like, well, that job is going to become open this season.
So why don't you just save us both some time and get out of here? Damn. He knows.

Speaker 1 He knows.

Speaker 1 He got rid of him one season too early.

Speaker 1 Nuncio Campanelli, or whatever his name is, wasn't going to be holding that job for very long.

Speaker 1 How about Danny Trevathan's broken arm?

Speaker 1 There's something. That was bad.
There's something that's more painful to watch about a broken arm than a broken leg. I don't know what it is.
That was bad. That sucks for him, too.
That was bad.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well,

Speaker 1 in replacement of him, Nick Kukowski, who's going to be a Chicago legend in no time. Who kind of is because he already was playing in, he had that game against when Roquan Smith wasn't there.

Speaker 1 But he's a ski,

Speaker 1 and he's a fucking white linebacker, and he's going to just dominate in the middle. I'm pretty sure that was

Speaker 1 Jon Favreau's character's name in the Vince Vaughan movie, right? Yes, same neck.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go to Chiefs Titans.

Speaker 1 Ryan Tannehill has taken his step forward, folks. Not really, but he did have an awesome game-winning drive.
He took several steps forward, and he took, he had a couple nice runs.

Speaker 1 People forget the narrative about Ryan Tannehill was that he was a wide receiver, so he still needs time to develop as a quarterback. Yes.
So I think we're starting to see that.

Speaker 1 All he needed was a change of scenery. Yeah.
He was just to get up to Nashville. Mike Vrabel, this was a Mike Vrabel game where he was counted out.

Speaker 1 I don't think Mike Vrabel on the sidelines, he coaches most of the game with his hands on his knees, like he's getting ready to play a defensive snap. Have you noticed that about him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is ready to run onto the field. Oh, he would love to get in there.
He also, did you see his quote after the game about the fans? What did he say?

Speaker 1 He said, thanks to all the Titan fans who did show up today. Maybe next time they can bring a few friends.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like that.
That's some fire. Well, the crowd was filled with Chiefs fans.
It was like all red in the lower bowl today. So Kansas City traveled well to that one.

Speaker 1 It's also, it's kind of, it sucks when you have a city that people want to travel to. Like Nashville is a city people want to go to.

Speaker 1 So it's tough to have a home field advantage when it's like a party destination. Yeah, well, if you think about it, what are the best home field advantages advantages in football?

Speaker 1 It's probably Lambeau Field is up there.

Speaker 1 Although the Saints kind of goes against that entire theory. Yeah.
Because everyone wants to go to New Orleans, but Vegas will be a good test.

Speaker 1 Vegas will be a good test because people will definitely go to Vegas to see their team. I mean, everyone will go to Vegas to see their team.

Speaker 1 I want to say I don't think it's fair that the Chiefs have the two of the exact same person at wide receiver. Yes.
Micole Hardman and Robinson.

Speaker 1 They're numbers 17 and 13, respectively, and they're the same body type, both fast as hell. They have all the fast players.
It's not fair. They have every fast guy.

Speaker 1 They've kidnapped all the fast guys, and they just throw them out there. And, okay, so Andy Reid,

Speaker 1 timeout, dude. Timeout.
I'm calling a timeout on you right here. Don't give Andy Reid any ideas.
Timeout. The timeout he called

Speaker 1 with 24 seconds left. He's got two timeouts.
He needs a field goal. He called the timeout before the Titans did a two-point conversion and then they still got it

Speaker 1 how do you call that timeout that's andy that's andy if you want to get it right big cat how you can't take him with you i also uh patrick mahomes looks to be okay

Speaker 1 but that knee definitely changed the end of the game when he had when they went they went to pass on third and two to ice the game He clearly had enough room to run, and he didn't.

Speaker 1 And I was like, that's a knee. Like,

Speaker 1 that's a play. If 100% healthy Patrick Mahomes, he gets that first down by diving for it.
But he made the business decision that he didn't want to hurt himself, which was the correct decision.

Speaker 1 But that's something to watch just because guys come back and we automatically assume, oh, they're good to go and everything's fine.

Speaker 1 But that was the difference in a Patrick Mahomes game that was there. You know what they say about knee injuries? That it actually affects your head more than it affects your leg.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he's thinking about it. He definitely was thinking.
He wasn't as confident, except when he was doing a jump pass for a touchdown. Yeah, which is coming back.

Speaker 1 This is the Tebow jump pass play is coming back. Joe Burrow did it.

Speaker 1 The run

Speaker 1 like five feet forward, then step back and then throw it.

Speaker 1 Tebow made it look as ugly as possible. Maybe that's why it took so long to come back because Tebow made it look so ugly that they're like, that was gross.
It wasn't cool anymore.

Speaker 1 But now it's coming back. I got it.
Tyler Murray's been running it in the Arizona offense. Well, he has to jump just to throw a pass right through the center.
So that's one thing altogether.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at the scoreboard right here. How did the Titans score 35 points?

Speaker 1 They had Derrick Henry just run like crazy. And this was a classic game where everyone started talking about how the Chiefs,

Speaker 1 I think the Chiefs rank statistically, they were like the 11th ranked defense. So everyone started talking about, ooh, these Chiefs are different.
They're sneaky good defense.

Speaker 1 And then Derrick Henry just fucking blasted all over them. The Titans are undefeated when Derrick Henry runs for more than 100 yards.

Speaker 1 I think, yeah, they're super undefeated when he runs for over 180 yards. And very, very undefeated when he's got over 200, including a 99-yard

Speaker 1 TD run. Derrick Henry is, that is

Speaker 1 a person that I would, I would rather try to tackle Saquon Barkley than Derrick Henry. I think he's number one on my list of running backs.
I just would not want to see in the open field.

Speaker 1 We should do a study on what Trent Richardson did to harm

Speaker 1 the good name of Alabama running backs. Because I feel like we forget about Derrick Henry.
We kind of forget about Ingram.

Speaker 1 We forget about, you know, like Jacobs is obviously a new guy who is going to be here for a long time.

Speaker 1 But I feel like Trenton Richardson fucked it up for all the Alabama running backs for a little bit. We just forget about running backs in general.
That's true.

Speaker 1 But Derrick Henry, especially, you kind of just forget, like, because you list, if you listed top five running backs, I'm not saying he's top five, but you just kind of don't even...

Speaker 1 Most people wouldn't be like, oh, yeah. And then Derrick Henry, you know, he's pretty damn good.
So he was awesome. 8.2 yards per carry.

Speaker 1 And that's how they scored. Yeah, that's pretty much how they did it.
35 points just doesn't seem like it should ever fit in with the Titans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they seem like a franchise that's just incapable of breaking the 30-point barrier. But I know they do it from time to time.
Ryan Tannehill. How about winning drive?

Speaker 1 How about the block field goal at the end of the game? I feel like field goals should be easier to time. Was the offsides? No, I think it was perfectly timed.
I think it was perfectly timed.

Speaker 1 Perfectly timed. And Bucker.
And I mean, the Chiefs basically had two chances. If they hit that field goal, they probably win that game because they go up eight.

Speaker 1 And Ryan Tannehill, I feel like Ryan Tannehill, if he sees eight, he's not getting that. That's more than a touchdown.
Right.

Speaker 1 Five, he's like, oh, I can do this. I got this.
We don't even need an extra point. He sees seven.
He's like, yeah, I can tie this game and lose in overtime. Yeah, absolutely.
Exactly. The job.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that is... So the

Speaker 1 Chiefs are in a weird spot because they're one week you say, oh, okay, the Chiefs are one of the best teams in the NFL. Shout out, by the way, Nick Wright, who

Speaker 1 the worst thing to happen to him all week was the fact that he said the Chiefs have lost their last game of the season, and then they lost the next game. Not great.

Speaker 1 Nick Wrong. And Nick Wrong.
But yeah, the Chiefs, like when he said that, he said it so convincingly, I was like, Yeah, I actually kind of agree with him because Andy. How's it on his run? Yes.

Speaker 1 He's very good. He's very persuasive with his arguments.
So when I was listening to it, I was like, I think he's right. I think the Chiefs

Speaker 1 have lost their last game of the year. And then they went out and lost like 48 hours later.
But I just can't.

Speaker 1 They're dangerous. Spin zone for

Speaker 1 spin zone for the Chiefs is they've learned how to deal with adversity this year. That's true.

Speaker 1 So last year they won too many games and they didn't have to figure out how to bounce back from losing and how to win the close ones.

Speaker 1 We're getting to that point of the season where the Chiefs losing to the Titans makes me think the Chiefs are not going to do anything real this year. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Those are games you should win. Just my gut feeling.

Speaker 3 Like a divisional round letdown, that type of season?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 3 Like, that's how the season's going to end for them?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I think they'll make the playoffs, but then they'll be how to let down. Yeah, there'll be one of those weird, yeah.
Or they'll get, you know, be in a shootout and lose in the first round.

Speaker 1 You'll be like, oh, that was weird. Like, I thought the Chiefs were a lot better than that.
It definitely feels like the top of the AFC doesn't naturally include the Chiefs anymore.

Speaker 1 Well, if I think of the best teams in the AFC, it's the Patriots and it's the Ravens, basically. And that's what I'm looking at.
And then the Chiefs are kind of, they're there, Texans.

Speaker 1 But yeah, and the Texans, but it's like Texans and Chiefs are right beneath those top teams.

Speaker 1 And I will say, in the Chiefs' defense, they have had a ton of injuries this year because, you know, Patrick Mahomes gets hurt, then they lose.

Speaker 1 Eric Fisher's been out, I think Mitchell Schwartz got hurt. Yeah.
By the way, the one thing,

Speaker 1 listen, I know Jeff Schwartz, nice guy, but the spelling of the name with the G,

Speaker 1 every time someone responds to him, so he was like, his brother gets hurt, and he's like, oh, fuck. And I felt bad for him.
And I, you know, obviously I went and saw, like, I saw Jeff's tweaks.

Speaker 1 I follow him and I like him.

Speaker 1 But then everyone responding was like, sorry, Jeff. But with the G, I just read every single one.
Sorry, G-Off.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that was the only take I had.

Speaker 1 From now on, it's just hard

Speaker 1 to see the G, I read G-Off. When you reply to Jeff Schwartz on Twitter, just spell his name J-E-F-F.
Yeah, because I just,

Speaker 1 it's not right. The spelling of his name is not right to him because I read it as G-Off every time.
G-Off for it. Is that wrong? No, I know.
I'm the same way. It's G-Off.

Speaker 1 Like, who's just naming the girl? Just name your kid with a J. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. You have the Toys R Us giraffe.
I I think I've said this before, but

Speaker 1 I knew a Jeff with a PH. Yeah, you have said that.
Yeah. He was an asshole.

Speaker 1 I think we've actually gotten into Jeff power rankings before. Yeah, Jeff with a PH was a weird dude.
Weird dude. You kind of have to be.

Speaker 1 If your name is Jeff with a PH and you're totally normal, that's almost weirder to me. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you've got, you've you do have your vices, but they're like way, way, way underneath the surface. Yes.
Okay. Let's do.

Speaker 1 Let's go down to the Saints. The Saints and the Falcons.
Dan Quinn has saved his job, I think.

Speaker 1 I saw that Arthur Blank before the game said that this is going to be a very important game in how he determines what's going to happen going forward.

Speaker 1 So basically, Dan Quinn saved his best game for the most, not the Super Bowl. It was the game right before he was going to get fired.
And he's like, I got to win this one. Boom.
Did it.

Speaker 1 The guys are playing for him. We're going to get that whole thing.
The guys are playing for the family. They found the locker room.
They found the locker room. So shout out Dan Quinn.
You did it, man.

Speaker 1 You did it. And this could be a masterclass in playing the long game by Sean Payton.
Like we talked about on Friday.

Speaker 1 The best thing that the Saints could do is to get their asses kicked by the Falcons and then have Dan Quinn get an extension. Right.
Have him not get fired this year.

Speaker 1 Would be great for the Saints fans moving into next year. I would actually say, if I'm Dan Quinn, fire me now.
Fire me after this win. You go out on a high note.
You're in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 You can go out and get shit canned on Bourbon Street. Have a great time.
wake up tomorrow morning, not have to go to work. Like, this would be the ultimate reward for beating the Saints.

Speaker 1 You don't want to get fired after you lose by 20 to the Buccaneers, you know, because then you just think about that as your last. That's that's what everyone remembers about you.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right now, most people would remember the Super Bowl about Dan Quinn, but they'd also be like, he's the guy that got fired after beating their biggest rival in New Orleans. Yes.

Speaker 1 So, speaking of which, by the way,

Speaker 1 the Browns and the Steelers play each other twice the next two, two out of the next three weeks. Okay.
So, firing. Yeah.
Isn't it always the Steelers

Speaker 1 beat the Browns? Yep. So watch out, Freddie Kitchens.
Yeah, they're the kiss of death. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Watch out, Freddie Kitchens. This is why I was addicted to the Falcons.
This is why. This game is why.

Speaker 1 Their defense was good. They played full four quarters where it's like you were still kind of waiting in the third quarter for the Saints to wake up.

Speaker 1 Didn't let it happen. I hate that the Falcons have done this because now this sole win is going to make me bet on them for the rest of the year.
You don't have to, though. No, but I will.

Speaker 1 You don't have to. No, but I will.
You do. Because I

Speaker 1 saw it and I shut up. Nope.
And on top of all that, I feel like, so the Saints question I had for you, is this just a stinker? Because every team gets a stinker.

Speaker 1 They get one stinker a year where it's like, oop, they didn't have it.

Speaker 1 You know, like even the best teams, you can look back, Super Bowl teams past where they had one game, you can point to it and say, yeah, that was weird. They didn't have, they didn't have it that day.

Speaker 1 Is it that? Or the Saints have real problems that are kind of like underneath the surface here? I mentioned earlier, they've had three games this year where they haven't scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 That doesn't feel like a Super Bowl team. I think I'm going to file this under wake-up call.
I think this is going to be a wake-up call for the Saints.

Speaker 1 So in the long run, it'll be good that they got their asses kicked at home. I just,

Speaker 1 their offensive line looked bad, and Drew Brees looked skittish. And man, I also think Peyton gets bored sometimes, and he starts like whipping out

Speaker 1 the weird tricks. And he, well, yeah, if you give Sean Payton too long to think of something, he'll just, he'll, he'll get real freaky with it.
And so he actually let Taysom Hill throw a pass today.

Speaker 1 And so that's how you can tell that he's had too much time to game plan. I'm just saying, three, I was astonished when I saw that.
Three games this year where the Saints have not scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 That feels wrong. How many of those were with Teddy versus with Drew? The one game in the Rams where Drew got hurt.

Speaker 1 Then they played the game against the Cowboys where they had four, they won the game with four field goals and then today. Okay, I think that's fine.
I'm going to chalk it up to aberration.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you think today was a stinker? It's a stinker aberration wake-up call. Okay.
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Speaker 1 Giants, Jets. Did I tell you about the time that my dad bought a shitload of Chex Mix just to get Wizards tickets? Yes.
And I was like, Dad, I don't. It was Corn Flakes.

Speaker 1 No, but Cornflakes were, he got paid money to buy the Cornflakes. Oh, yeah, the Chex Mix.
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Speaker 1 Okay, so Giants, Jets.

Speaker 1 Where do we want to start? Winners or losers? Let's start with the winners. Let's talk about the Jets real quick.
Yeah, the winners.

Speaker 1 The winners they're two and seven and sam darnold said uh we got a chance at the playoffs that's true and i'm gonna say this pfd this part of the season right around now early november this is run the table season

Speaker 1 if you have a player has to probably be a quarterback maybe like i don't know your pro bowl safety

Speaker 1 If you have a player get in front of the media and say, we're going to run the table, I'm in. Aaron Rodgers invented that.
He did. He invented, and the word relax as well.
Right.

Speaker 1 But there's something about saying we're going to run the table that makes you go look at the schedule and you start looking at it and you're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Like, the Jets, they actually might run the table. And who's to say they can't make it in the playoffs? That's exactly what Greene was saying when he was going through the schedule the other day.

Speaker 1 Okay, now I disagree with everything I said. Yeah, so it is run-the-table season.
In theory, as long as you have fewer than seven losses right now, you can make a case in your most illusional states.

Speaker 1 You can make a case as a fan of any team that you could run the table and make the play. Okay, Dolphins.
Well, here's the

Speaker 1 Dolphins. Yes.
Here's the next four track for 9-7. Here's the next four games for the Jets.

Speaker 1 Because this is, when he said that, I immediately looked at his schedule because that's really what they're doing. They're saying, just check out a schedule and tell yourself they can win.

Speaker 1 Next four games for the Jets at Redskins, Raiders at home, at Bengals, Dolphins at home. Yeah.
They could absolutely win all four of those.

Speaker 1 Now, I think the Raiders are better than the Jets, but that is a west-to-east game. Always tough.

Speaker 1 So we could be sitting here six and seven Jets going to play the Ravens on Thursday night football. That would be incredible.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to happen, but it's a possibility. But Sam Darnold said it.
They could run the table. Sam Darnold said it.
He said, now, do you say we're going to run the table?

Speaker 1 No, he said we've got a chance to play. We got a chance to run.
And everyone laughed at him. And I was like, that's not funny.

Speaker 1 He's saying the truth. But you know what?

Speaker 1 You can point back if you're Sam Darnold, even if you don't make the playoffs. Let's say you finish 8-8 and be like, yeah, if I didn't get mono, this was our season.
Well, that was the other thing.

Speaker 1 I think Sam forgot. I think he thinks that the games he didn't play didn't happen.
So I think in his brain, they're like 2-2. They're a pretty good team.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They had an opportunity to put something together here. Right.
Yeah, I mean, they could also just as easily go 3-13. Oh, it's most likely that.

Speaker 1 They could reverse run the table. They could flip the table.
That would be nice. Jesus going into the moneylenders.
Just turn it all over.

Speaker 1 I think that they.

Speaker 1 I want to say I'm on board with the Jets. I'm on board.
They're going to run the table. I think that they're going to run the table.
I've talked myself into it.

Speaker 1 The problem is, you have the Jets and Dolphins. You have way too many teams now.
How many combined wins for the rest of the year? Yeah, you've crossed up yourself. So

Speaker 1 you have the Jets running the table. You have the Dolphins going 9-7.
They play each other. Then you have the Ravens winning the Super Bowl, and the Bills getting into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 The Jets still have to play the Bills and the Ravens. So you've Pepe Sylvie yourself to a point where I I don't think you can get out of it.
I would disagree.

Speaker 1 I've made so many contradictory statements that I'm bound to be right with one of them. Well, the problem is you like every team.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're the John Gruden of teams. I'm the Drake of the NFL.
Yeah, that team could do it, except the Vikings, who are the best team of that bunch. Nope.
Vikings are trash.

Speaker 1 I think we're all in agreement that they're a trash fire.

Speaker 1 How about this Saquon stat line today? You see this? Saquon, 13 attempts, one yard with a long of three. Yeah, because do you see what what Patrick Shermer's doing Richardson like?

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, Patrick Shermer said afterwards that he's banged up. Why the fuck are you playing him if he's banged up? What are your favorite euphemisms for guys that are seriously injured?

Speaker 1 I like nicked. Like, oh, he's a little nicked right now.
I like when they just say

Speaker 1 the injury is like he's got a leg.

Speaker 1 Or he's shaken up. Yep.
Like some guy just smashed three of his own ribs.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a little shaken up there on the sidelines right now.

Speaker 1 Cobwebs is a good one. Yes.
He's got cobwebs. No, he's got a severe brain injury.
If you ever want to.

Speaker 3 A little rusty, they kept saying that about Tua as if they didn't know why.

Speaker 1 If you ever want to see a classic

Speaker 1 old school NFL, search Tom Waddle on YouTube, game-winning drive. And John Madden used every single one of those when Waddle got like 16 concussions on one drive.

Speaker 1 He's shaking up with a little cobwebs. Oh, the cobwebs for everything.
He was doing smelling salts. It was insane.
It wasn't a drive. It was the game.
I think he had like 10 catches or something.

Speaker 1 It was incredible.

Speaker 1 Okay. I just also, you can't expect John Madden to try to diagnose anybody with a concern.
But he used every cliche.

Speaker 1 It was like, you know, like way back in the, you know, early 90s, late 80s, where it's like, this football is just, football is getting popular, but we still didn't know what the fuck was going on.

Speaker 1 Instead of he's got a leg, he's got a brain right now. Yeah.
All right. So Pat Shermer is a bad coach.
He should be fired. Hotter seat than Patricia? Yes.
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Because Pat Shermer is ruining Saquon Barkley. He runs him up the middle.
That's it. Pat Shermer,

Speaker 1 so we've talked about it. He said that he's comfortable

Speaker 1 in losing.

Speaker 1 He's the man for the job. Yeah, he's the man for the job.

Speaker 1 This is also a sign of coaches that are about to get fired when they start talking about the future, and it seems awkward because you're like, you're not going to be here.

Speaker 1 So he said, I'm seeing the things that will help us in the long run. And I saw that quote from him and I was like, who, what, long run?

Speaker 1 Like, dude, you're not, this isn't going to happen for much longer.

Speaker 1 I love when coaches do that, when it's clearly like, the minute you can feel the awkward tension when a coach talks about more than just the next game, you know that it's probably time then a reporter followed up and said, what things are you talking about?

Speaker 1 And he said,

Speaker 1 he said, that's not for here. Yeah, that's not for here.
So he's not going to get into details. He doesn't want to talk about things about the long run.
The long run.

Speaker 1 So he could just be talking about two weeks from now. Yeah.
Well, I think think they have a bye week, so that's probably. But it just,

Speaker 1 it dawned on me when I saw that clip. I think everyone can relate to that as a football fan.

Speaker 1 The moment the coach tries to talk the media and the fans into building something for the future, and your gut reaction is, what is he talking about? He's not going to be part of this.

Speaker 1 Did he even have a look on his face like he was almost hesitant to say the long run? No, he's confident. He knows.

Speaker 1 I remember when the Redskins were doing so poorly, which could be describing any point in the last 20 years, but Jay Gruden did his weekly show, and one of the segments was sponsored by a furniture company, and it was called like the Jay Gruden hot seat weekly segment.

Speaker 1 And at first, when he was winning some games, it was fine, but they kept the name of the segment. Yeah.
And so every week he would have to talk about

Speaker 1 the Jay Gruden hot seat moment. Right.
And he would like laugh about it at the end, but everybody else was kind of like very puckered butt. Yeah, like, this is getting weird.

Speaker 1 It's getting all too real. So it's all too real for Pat Shermer now.
I think he's going to get fired at the end of this year.

Speaker 1 I've been on the Pat Shermer doesn't really know what he's doing. And at this point, you have Daniel Jones, who seems real.
Although, again, Daniel Jones, like, that guy loves to give up the ball.

Speaker 1 He only lost one fumble today. He didn't throw any picks, but...
It was a bad fumble. Well, it was a strip.
I actually, when we were watching that live,

Speaker 1 we actually said out loud, like, that should be a penalty from how mean Jamal Adams was. Just took the ball right out of his hand.

Speaker 1 He took the ball with one hand and he shoved him with the other. It looked like they were doing a choreographed handshake that they knew was happening before.
That's how smooth the transaction was.

Speaker 1 Football is a violent, violent game. But what Jamal Adams did to Daniel Jones was straight up mean.
And they should have flagged it and been like, nope, can't do that. That was too mean.

Speaker 1 And you know what the worst part about it is? Daniel Jones had to go right back on the field after that and look at that man in his eyes lined up across from him and be like, yeah, that sucked for me.

Speaker 1 Please don't do that again, sir. So you think Pat Shermer's in trouble? I think Pat Shermer has a face that just screams 6-10.
Yeah. He's got a 6-10 face.
Nothing will ever change that in my book.

Speaker 1 But you have this moment where if you're the Giants, you're like, okay, Daniel Jones probably is the guy. Do we want Pat Shermer to be his coach? No, no, no.
No. Yeah.
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 So you're thinking

Speaker 1 this is the perfect time to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 I feel like this happens a lot in the NFL where you suck as a head coach, you get a high draft pick, you take a quarterback, and then you still suck somehow as a head coach.

Speaker 1 And they're like, oh, yeah, maybe he just is a bad coach. And then they fire you after you're like Jon Fox and Mitch Trubisky.
Right. That sort of situation.

Speaker 1 Get somebody else in that's going to fix everything

Speaker 1 like they did in Chicago. Right.
Exactly. Matt Nagy, I'm back on Matt Nagy's side.
Just because Hank went at him. Yep.
Literally, that's all it took.

Speaker 1 I was as down as anyone could ever be on Matt Nagy, and then Hank said one bad thing, and I was like, fuck you, that's my coach.

Speaker 3 It just occurred to me. That's never come on the show.

Speaker 1 That's true. It's true.
It just occurred to me that. Fuck it, I'm out on him.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the Jets making the playoffs, maybe, if they run the table. They're tied with the Dolphins.
That's fine, PFT. Actually, the Dolphins are ahead of them.
PFT,

Speaker 1 in last place. They are.
But that's fine. Sam Donald said

Speaker 1 we can

Speaker 1 make the playoffs. We can still be in the playoffs.
When you start talking about controlling your own destiny and running tables, and there's... I think it's all just about the fact that there's...

Speaker 1 a finite like number of games left and you can visualize, okay, because because when you do the win-loss thing at the beginning of the season, you don't know.

Speaker 1 We don't know what that team's going to be when we play them in November. Now you know all the teams, so you can actually look at it and be like, win, win, win, win, win.
Okay, yeah, the Jets are 9-7.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could happen if they're on the table for sure. Yeah,

Speaker 1 once that loss number turns into an eight in the column, that's like that's a red alarm that goes off. Season done.
Yes, season is done.

Speaker 1 Okay, Cardinals Bucks.

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Speaker 1 PFT. Yes.
When was the last time the Tampa Bay Bucks won a home game?

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 week 13 of last year. Yes, you knew that fact.
I didn't know that. You knew that fact.
My brain's full paper. They have been on the road for so long.
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Speaker 1 They have been on the road for so long. I think this is their first home game in Tampa Bay since week three.
Yep. And yeah, it's crazy.
They won a game at home.

Speaker 1 And really, it was one of those games that, like, Kyler Murray was a lot better than Jameis Winston. Kyler Murray's for real, but the Bucs just did enough freaky things to win the game at the end.

Speaker 1 Well, so Kyler did throw that interception at the end. That was bad.
That was bad. That was a sad pick.
But he was awesome otherwise. Yeah, Jameis is on pace for 24 interceptions this year.

Speaker 1 The sun was really bright. It was very bright today.

Speaker 1 Winston was out in full force. Larry Fitzgerald's ass looked huge in those red pants.
Did you see that? Like two clown noses stuffed down the shorts.

Speaker 1 It was a bad game for Jameis. It was a good game for Kyler.
But Jameis sucked less than Kyler in the last three minutes. Right.
Pretty much. Jameis was actually good on that last drive.

Speaker 1 And Cliff Kingsbury coached a good game, and then on the last drive, lost his mind. And I think they ran like a draw to start, then like a really small pass.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, hey, you guys kind of need to get going here.

Speaker 1 And it just never happened. And Kyler, I like Kyler.
I think Kyler's going to be a good quarterback going forward. He's shown enough, but

Speaker 1 he still hasn't realized that if you run straight backwards,

Speaker 1 I don't know, one out of four times that's going to end up in like a 25-yard sack. They're fast people.

Speaker 1 He does that thing where he just thinks he can keep running backwards forever and then just throw it 80 yards down the field. It's the old Madden play.
Yeah. And it worked all the time.

Speaker 1 If you played with Michael Vick in like 2006 Madden, you could do that every single play and win. Yeah.
And it was not an issue. Can I ask a question about both these teams?

Speaker 1 Because neither of these teams are going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 if they run the table though. If they run the table.
But would you say both teams are frisky? And

Speaker 1 if yes, which team is friskier? Because I would contend that both are frisky. They could win anywhere.
But they could lose to everyone.

Speaker 1 I think the Bucs are friskier. I think they're friskier.
I think the Cardinals are friskier.

Speaker 1 I think the Bucs are a little bit friskier. They out frisked them today.
And when Jameis started running with the ball a couple times today, did you see?

Speaker 1 Obviously, we've covered almost to the point of exhaustion how hilarious Jameis is when he runs with the ball.

Speaker 1 But you're obligated as an announcer to say, now Jameis isn't the fastest quarterback in the world

Speaker 1 when he runs with the ball because he's not. He's actually very slow.
He runs like with a piano on his back. Yes.

Speaker 1 But you get kind of impressed when you see him running and not getting dizzy and falling down and tripping in the open field.

Speaker 1 He was able to make it 12 yards. That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 It's the reverse sneaky athletic for for a white guy. Yes.
Like everyone. You have to remind him.

Speaker 1 Hey, not a running quarterback. Jameis actually not fast.
Yeah. Byron Leftwich on the sidelines, also not fast.
Not fast. People forget Byron Leftwich wasn't fast.
Yes, not fast.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up we have Dolphins, Colts. The Dolphins have two wins.
They have won two games in a row. They are hot.
They are hot, hot, hot. Your Dolphins.
Winning Street, my Dolphins.

Speaker 1 You don't even have to say anything nice about the Dolphins. You just can state a fact they've won two games in a row.

Speaker 1 They actually, the only thing you could say about the Dolphins is they stink at tanking. Yeah.
They have a path to seven and nine or nine and seven. Either one.

Speaker 1 Ryan Fitzpatrick is fun to watch. But he wasn't even good.
He wasn't good. No, but it was the Dolphins defense.
But he's fun to watch.

Speaker 1 Somehow Ryan Fitzpatrick finds himself in a situation every single game where he's in the open field and he gets a chance to run directly at that team's smallest defensive back and run them over.

Speaker 1 And you always think when Ryan Fitzpatrick lowers his shoulder, he's going to get his ass blown up because he's older. He's not fast.
He's not particularly big.

Speaker 1 But he always seems to find the 179-pound cornerback and just level the shit out of him and run through him. And

Speaker 1 he loves contact and he wasn't very good. It was the Dolphins defense today.
I think this was the end of Brian Hoyer. Because this is the worst.
Don't say something so

Speaker 1 utterly destroying to my psyche. This is the worst.

Speaker 1 When you're a backup quarterback at the end of your backup quarterbacking days you can get a couple extra years if you just don't have to play but if you have to play and play more than like a quarter like brian hoyer is everyone sees it and they're like oh yeah his arm is shot and his he can't make decisions anymore and this is bad because brian horror lost them this game so i think that's that's about it like swag kelly are we come on swag all right so here's the other why not why not is right Why not is right.

Speaker 1 Here's my other hot take from this game. Frank Reich cannot be in any coach of the year conversations for the rest of the season.
Removed. Removed.
If you lose to the Dolphins, you get removed.

Speaker 1 So much so, I think Brian Flores should be mentioned before Frank Reich in Coach of the Year conversations. For winning with a tanking team.
Yes.

Speaker 1 If you

Speaker 1 are the Colts.

Speaker 1 Right. If you're the Colts, and I know Andrew Luck, and you had to do the change, and then Jacoby Brissett gets hurt.
I know all of this.

Speaker 1 If you are competing for the playoffs and you have a home game against a team that is actively trying to lose, that has traded their best players, and you lose that game, you are no longer in the running for Coach of the Year, and you have passed the torch across the field to the man who somehow beats you while trying to lose.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm down for that. I think that's fair.
I'm in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of times that Coach of the Year award is kind of like a pity award given to somebody that's got so much adversity and all that shit that does the most with like a really shitty hand up there why not brian flores why not brian flores he's had it worse than anyone he was given a team and told by the owner we're going to lose

Speaker 1 and he somehow has them still playing for them like that that right there says that he's one of the he maybe not the best coach in the league but he's a good coach because he's got his guys playing for him when they all wanted to be like fuck this i'm out yeah he had a playlist that alienated half of his locker room earlier this year and And then he fixed it by trading him.

Speaker 1 And then he fixed it by trading him, getting rid of their best safety to trade him up to. He got rid of the wrong Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 1 They made him get rid of the good Fitzpatrick for his team, and he's still reeling off a two-game winning streak.

Speaker 1 And we were talking about this earlier, but Vinatari missed another. Was an extra point today? It's bad.
It's bad.

Speaker 1 We were looking at it and seeing, like, is this the end for him? We're not sure. Then I mentioned to Hank the idea.
He gets cut. Would you want the the Patriots to sign Adam Vineteri?

Speaker 1 And Hank was like, I think I would. Hell yeah.
Here's the question. So

Speaker 1 Adam Vinitieri is a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 Like all time, you know, like so many big kicks. If his name was anything else, there's no way he would still be on the call.
Well, you can't really cut Adam Vinitieri.

Speaker 1 Right, past that point, you can't wait for him to self-select and be like, I'm going to do it to myself. You remember in the 19 or the 2002 World Cup when Jeff Agus was on the U.S.

Speaker 1 national team and he was like,

Speaker 1 he had been their captain for like 15 years, but he sucked ass.

Speaker 1 And then he very gallantly in a game faked a calf injury and looked up at the stands and was like, somebody threw something at me and hit me in my leg, which didn't happen. And he took himself out.

Speaker 1 That's what Vitatari just needs to be like, I'm going to Agus myself. I'm going to Agus myself.
I'm out. By the way,

Speaker 1 not to get sidetracked, but shout out the Sounders. They've won two MLS Cups in the last four years.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to get there.

Speaker 1 We were going to get there. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 How dare you schedule an NFL on an NFL Sunday song? Well, it was a tweet. I saw a tweet being like, the Sounders have won another MLS Cup.
Like, what? What? Today?

Speaker 1 Are the Sounders a dynasty? They won it today? Put that game on a Friday at noon and we'll watch. And it's also, I'm sick of super teams in the MLS.

Speaker 1 You know what's going to happen every year.

Speaker 1 All right, so back to the Colts Invinitery.

Speaker 1 Like, why wouldn't you cut him? If he's losing your games and you're trying to get to the playoffs, any other guy, and

Speaker 1 he's gone. A kicker misses two kicks in a game, and it's we got guys in the facility practicing on Monday morning.

Speaker 1 The Patriots might be so deep inside the Colts' heads that the Colts have my theory that Vinatier is missing on purpose so that he can join the Patriots for a playoff run.

Speaker 3 And the Patriots already fucked over the Colts with McDaniels.

Speaker 1 And they already like that. I should back up a little.
So,

Speaker 1 they don't want to put him out there because they think that the Patriots are going to snap him up. I should back up a little because he did have a hot streak in between during this season.

Speaker 1 Like, he had, he sucked at the beginning. Remember, he was about to retire.
Then he was hot for a while. He had a game winner.

Speaker 1 But it feels like, and this game wasn't decided by his missed extra point. It looked like it could have been for a moment there.

Speaker 1 It just feels like a situation where the Colts are playing with fire because they will be in a spot where they need a win and a big kick, and it might not happen.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. I wouldn't want to play with that fire.
I mean, as someone that I knew last year, Cody Parking was that fire. Right.

Speaker 1 So you're playing with it all year, and you're like, oh, well, let's hope it doesn't, let's hope this fire that's been slowly burning all season fixes itself. It just puts itself out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's going to fix itself. Yeah, that will happen.
I think that they'll probably have a conversation with him tomorrow and be like, hey, can you please just do it? Just end it all.

Speaker 1 Just walk away.

Speaker 1 Just end it all. Again, he didn't cost them the game.
I'm just saying this is going to be something.

Speaker 1 I would imagine if you talked to every single Colts fan, they would have the same exact answer. They'd be like, no, we can't cut out Invinitery.
He's a legend.

Speaker 1 And then if you gave him three beers, they'd be like, Yeah, we're pretty nervous about this. Like, if we get in a big situation, I do not have, I don't have faith that he's going to hit it.

Speaker 1 And then what happens when you have a kicker that you don't trust, that your coach doesn't trust, it affects everything that your coach does. Yep.
And he gets weird with it. He overthinks

Speaker 1 some of the play calling, gets fucked up. Maybe, maybe you take a knee instead of running the ball.
Well, that actually. You put it at the wrong hashtag?

Speaker 1 That wasn't no faith in the kicker. That was no faith in the offense.
That was reverse. It was actually like like a combination.

Speaker 1 No, because if he had no faith in the kicker, he would have kept on running the ball. That's true.
So he actually was like,

Speaker 1 we're good. We're so money, even though Eddie Pinero misses every fucking extra point now, too.
You want to hear Spin zone about that, though?

Speaker 1 If they hadn't taken that knee and they kicked from like a yard or two closer, it would have doinked it. That would have been worse.
Well, if you know it's on a doink as opposed to just a straight.

Speaker 1 I'm in a good place this Sunday. We don't want to bring this up.
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Panthers, Packers, Snow Globe game. The best.
The snow in the second half was so awesome. Big ass flakes, big flurries.
It was great.

Speaker 1 What's your biggest takeaway from this game? Because I'm going to say something that's going to get some people who listen to this show upset, but it's honest.

Speaker 1 But I'd like to to hear what you have to say first.

Speaker 1 The snow looks cooler from field level when they're shooting, and you can see like a little bit of the night sky above and the snow falling through that than it does from the overhead camera. Okay.

Speaker 1 That was my biggest takeaway. The Packers defense stinks.
My other.

Speaker 1 That defense is Fraud City. I don't think it's a Fraud City City.
They gave up 401 yards and only 16 points. So good job being Ben Don't Break.

Speaker 1 But I know, and again, this is going back to like, this is me doing some studies. I have friends that are Packers fans.
Yeah, that's crazy, but I do.

Speaker 1 They have said to me, they know deep down that this is pretty much a situation that Aaron Rodgers has to be superhuman to win a big game in January because the defense, they do not trust him.

Speaker 1 But that's what he likes to do. I know.
He likes to have everybody. That defense is a good thing.
He likes to be the only one that's good on his team. Swiss cheese.
I'll say this.

Speaker 1 Kyle Allen almost went fucking 90 yards on them.

Speaker 1 I mean, he basically went all the way there in the snow with small, little, tiny little hands.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. He did.
Yeah. Matt LaFleur looked cold, and that's going to be a problem.

Speaker 1 That is,

Speaker 1 it does get cold up there, and he's coached in warm weather cities. He looked like he wasn't loving the snow.
No.

Speaker 1 And if you're a Green Bay coach, I think he needs to add on an extra like 50 to 70 pounds.

Speaker 1 He'll learn while he's up there that you have to build in some natural insulation for it to get that like Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy type, barrel-chested, big-ass type look.

Speaker 1 He's not a guy that can fill out a winter coat right now. No.
And he looked like he he was miserable, not having a great time.

Speaker 1 He was bundled up like Ralphie from Christmas Story. Yes.
Which is why he couldn't call the timeouts correctly, probably. Yes.

Speaker 1 The defense is not good. I agree.
I don't think they're frauds. No, their defense is frauds.
I'm not saying that's frauds. You toss around the word fraud far too much, sir.
Okay, well, their team.

Speaker 1 Apologize to the word fraud, like I apologize to the dungeons. Listen, their team is not a fraud because Aaron Rodgers is still on their team, and he's still one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So they will be in every single game, but they like they give up yards like nobody's business. And

Speaker 1 I don't think that team's getting a big stop when they need it at the end of you know, in a big, important game.

Speaker 1 You're probably right on that. Did you hear what Ron Rivera said about analytics? No.
When they talked to him. So Ron Rivera did the smart thing, and he went for two when they were down.

Speaker 1 Yep, because of math, they were down 14. Hank still doesn't understand it.
No, we explained it. I think Hank gets it.
You get it? It's two-point conversion locks. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was asked about that. He said if analytics were perfect, this whole league would be 8-8.
Yeah. So Ron understands statistics.
That's true.

Speaker 1 That's a good point by Ron. The Panthers, I don't know what to make of them either because I feel like

Speaker 1 this was their big opportunity today because the Saints lost a game no one saw them losing. And I don't know.
It's going to be...

Speaker 1 Actually, after this, let's go to the Rams Steelers. But after that, let's take a big look at the playoff picture in both divisions.
We'll do big picture, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll do big picture because the afc so rams steelers the afc playoff picture is a mess ram steelers uh steelers win 1712 their defense is awesome uh i still don't believe in mason rudolph but the pittsburgh defense like minka fitzpatrick that's the rare win-win trade where the dolphins get another pick in a tanking year and the steelers

Speaker 1 They don't get a player in the draft this year that's going to be as good as Minka Fitzpatrick is for them right now. Correct.
Minka Fitzpatrick is awesome. He's awesome.

Speaker 1 And their defense is really, really good. He somehow finds himself in situations where he gets the ball and he scores on defense.
Yeah. And those for the end zone.
That's right.

Speaker 1 At some point, you know, you can chalk some of it up to luck, but if he's always in the right place at the right time,

Speaker 1 then you're just, you just know where to hang out. Agreed.
You know where all the hot spots are.

Speaker 1 I don't understand

Speaker 1 what happened to Cooper Cup. I don't understand what happened.
Well, actually, I mean, Joe Hayden did a pretty good job on him, but I don't understand the fake punt that wasn't a fake punt.

Speaker 1 Was it such a is Sean McVay such a genius that the new fake punt is not even faking the punt part,

Speaker 1 but just putting your kicker out there to throw? Well, he went back-to-back-to-back plays with three different quarterbacks, I think. That is genius.
Goff, Bortles, which I and Hesson.

Speaker 1 He loved Pittsburgh. I guarantee you, when the Steelers fans saw Bortles come in, they got a shiver down their spine because he owns that season.
He does. Ever since 2017, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 When he beat them three times, or no, no, twice in a season.

Speaker 1 Twice in Pittsburgh. Twice in Pittsburgh.
He owns Heinz Field.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a weird fake punt.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a particularly well-designed fake punt, but he went into shotgun formation, dropped back like a normal quarterback would, and then threw a crossing route that I think was even short of the sticks.

Speaker 1 It was so weird. Sean McVay, Sean McVay got his genius card taken away by Colin Coward.
Yes. He said, is it time that we discuss taking away his genius card?

Speaker 1 Well, I think the Rams have proven that any offense will not look like

Speaker 1 a genius offense if you don't have an offensive line.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much what it comes down to. Like, all right, well, now we can't get our quarterback time.
Oh, yeah, we don't look like the geniuses we did last year.

Speaker 1 I like that he got his genius card taken away. The Rams are just, I don't know what to make of them.
I just know that they got issues, and the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Are you ready to believe a little bit in the Steelers? I've been throwing it around a lot.

Speaker 1 And again, it always goes back to Mason Rudolph. He looks like a fat fewer.
I know, I agree. Mason Rudolph, I don't trust him.

Speaker 1 The Steelers' defense, I trust, and I think that they will win these games.

Speaker 1 This is like they're going back old school, like, because obviously Ben made it an offensive team, L'Avion Bell, Antonio Brown, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 They're going old school Steelers like 10 years ago, 15 years ago, where it's we're going to win the game with defense and just grind it out. Mason Rudolph is a modern-day Tommy Maddox.

Speaker 1 He's a rookie year Ben. Yeah, Neil O'Donnell

Speaker 1 is what I think of. Whatever Big Ben had a 16 QB rating in the Super Bowl he won against the Seahawks? Yeah, when the refs gave him the refs actually won that Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 When Antoine Randall threw a touchdown, the only passing touchdown.

Speaker 1 Big Ben is also ballooning up. Yeah, he is getting better.

Speaker 1 Putting on the insulation. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's cultivating mass season, right? That's right. He wants to be a coach so bad.
Yeah. He's got the headset on.

Speaker 1 I never expected that Big Ben would be a guy that would want to get into coaching afterwards because he's hated every single coach that he's had. Yes.

Speaker 1 But I feel like that's the one way for him to continue his passion of butting heads with an offensive coordinator even after he gets out of the game.

Speaker 1 So he can then become a head coach and still get into fights with the play callers on the side of the game. Hire Todd Haley just to fire him.
Just to fire him. Just to fire him.
Like every other week.

Speaker 1 but yeah he's my guess he's conservatively put on 20 pounds since he's been out with an injury this year yeah I'd say so you could make the argument that he is learning from Cam Newton who has struggled to rebound from injuries after becoming a vegan so big Ben is going the exact opposite and just consuming only animal products yes heavy fats cheeses a moderate amount of cream just like just loading up on the junk shit um the Steelers if the Steelers win on Thursday night in Cleveland, which is going to be a true loser-leaves town game, which I'm very excited for, if the Steelers beat the Browns in Cleveland on Thursday night, they're going to go 11-5.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know about all that.

Speaker 1 They have Cincy, Cleveland, Arizona, Buffalo, Jets in week 17 at Baltimore, who might not be playing for anything. But you forgot the Jets are going to be in the middle of their table.

Speaker 1 I do not think the Jets will fully run the table. They will get to that week 16, and then they will

Speaker 1 be the end of it. That'll be the steak and the harbor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, they're just saying, this is what I've

Speaker 1 the Ram beating the Rams is a big step for the Steelers. I think they're going to sneak in.
So this is a segue to the AFC picture. I think the Steelers are going to sneak in.
I really do.

Speaker 1 I think the Steelers are going to sneak in, and I'm going to tell you who the other team I'm going to have.

Speaker 1 You say Buffalo.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's going to come down to Buffalo and Raiders. And I I don't.

Speaker 1 You're not ready to count Chucky out yet? No, I'm not ready to count Chucky out. I'm not ready to count Chucky out.
But the AFC wildcard picture is going to be a mess.

Speaker 1 A mess. Right now, the Dolphins are in the hunt.
They're on the in the hunt graphic.

Speaker 1 Everyone in the AFC South is in the hunt.

Speaker 1 Pretty much everyone in the AFC West is in the hunt. Everyone except for the Bengals.
And then the Steelers and the Bills. So, like, all those teams are in the hunt in the AFC.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a mess. Yeah, that's a disaster.
Yeah, I still think the Bills are going to make it. I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I think they'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Bills will be, everything's fine. You're fine.
Everything's fine. You're fine.
Buffalo's fine. Okay.
All right. I mean, I tend to agree with you.

Speaker 1 I just, there's going to be a couple teams here that are going to look interesting. And then the NFC.

Speaker 1 The NFC is a lot more difficult. It's going to be a lot more difficult to make the playoffs, I feel like, because the Vikings and the Seahawks

Speaker 1 are both 7-3, 7-2, respectively, and

Speaker 1 they would be the wild cards if the season ended today. That's a pretty good record.
I could also see the Cowboys making it. I could see the Cowboys and the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Winning the East? The Cowboys and the Eagles both making the play. Two out of the East? Yeah, it could have.

Speaker 1 This is like last year when everyone rode off the NFC East and they had two teams.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we are, it's officially that time of season. NFC East is such a top-heavy division.

Speaker 1 It's a tale of two cities with inside that division.

Speaker 1 So you've got the Eagles and the Cowboys, which you could make a case for either one of them winning the division, and then you've just got absolute shit on the city. It's two-tone Malone.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 It's the Tutone Malone division. Yeah, shout out Tutone Malone and that guy who's obsessed with them.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back.

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Speaker 1 Let's do who's back. Then we got Football Guy of the Week.
Then we're going to wrap up with some college football. Hank, what are you going? I was just going to say,

Speaker 1 I want to get an Indochino custom suit that's custom-made to like 2003 NBA draft pick style. Ooh.
There's like a bag of cat.

Speaker 1 Hank actually has that. A Tracy McGrady.
He wore that a couple weeks ago. Kirk Heinrich.

Speaker 1 That's rude. Don't give me the look.
I told you to look nice.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but apparently you were lying to me.

Speaker 1 No, I was

Speaker 1 back of the week is this league.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 Deion Waiters did a move that I pulled not too long ago when he got on a plane, he took an Edible, and then he apparently had a panic attack on the plane.

Speaker 3 So they had to call the ambulance and shit when he landed.

Speaker 3 He ended up getting suspended for 10 games, and then, for whatever reason, decided to tell people that it was a teammate who gave him the Edible, but he's not going to tell which teammate.

Speaker 3 So it's got a lot of people speculating which teammate it was that gave him the edible, why he took such a strong edible.

Speaker 3 None. I think it was the clinic.
Kelly Owero? Kelly Olinik.

Speaker 1 That's got to be the obvious choice. Probably homemade edible shit for the camera.

Speaker 3 He's Canadian.

Speaker 3 But yeah, this league is back. I've been there, Dion.
It's not a good place to be.

Speaker 1 Edibles are a dangerous thing.

Speaker 3 I've never really heard someone that's taken an edible and be like, this was great.

Speaker 3 Most of the time, it's like, I took edible and I was like lying in my bed thinking I was going to have a heart attack and die.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you take too much.

Speaker 3 And that's what happened to Dion.

Speaker 1 Did he forget to add in I Love You Guys at the end of his podcast, too?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 I mean, he got suspended.

Speaker 3 He's going to lose like $3 million, so it's probably a little worse.

Speaker 1 There is nothing worse than having that one too many times.

Speaker 3 And it was your own fault for giving me an edible. Like I said, it was like the same thing, except my teammate did it to me, but we talked about it.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he publicly called me out on it. But that moment where you're like, uh-oh, point of no return.
Can't. Can't do anything for the next four hours.
Like, I'm going to take a shower.

Speaker 1 Nope, that doesn't fix it. Oh, I'm going to take a nap.
Nope. Nope.
I'm going to go even more high.

Speaker 1 Still going gonna die. Nope.
Gonna just have a panic attack and then be the laughing stock of the NBA because I can't handle my weed.

Speaker 1 And you might think that taking an edible on a plane is a good move. I think that's actually the worst place to take an edible.
That's a terrible move.

Speaker 1 Because you think I'm gonna take this and then zonk out for a few hours and be fine. What happens is you end up in a new airport and you don't know how to find the taxi line.

Speaker 1 And you just wander around and you're high as shit.

Speaker 1 And then the worst part about when you're too when you're when you have too many edibles is you just look around and you're like, everyone knows I'm high right now. Right.
And

Speaker 1 it heightens your senses in a weird way. So the altitude feels worse.

Speaker 1 The shitty diarrhea air that gets recirculated is disgusting.

Speaker 3 And you think it's like, oh, I'll take an edible and fall asleep, but it's like a disease.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 3 No. You get paranoid when you're going to get away.
Yeah, when you're too high to fall asleep.

Speaker 1 Now that's the worst. So shout out to Deion Waiters.
We know what you're going through, bro. Even though that is pretty embarrassing.
Sounds like you were at the Dodgers game, big camera. Yes.

Speaker 1 It was. Yes, that was really bad.
Sometimes we got caught in that line where PFD and I basically just ordered like $200 worth of stuff and then we got done with it.

Speaker 1 We're like, whoa, maybe we are high.

Speaker 1 We got up to the counter and we were planning on getting just like a bottle of water and then we just kept on looking at pretzel and we're like, oh yeah, ice cream. Yeah, we should get some ice cream.

Speaker 1 Oh, the little helmets? Fuck yeah, the helmets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that sucks for Dion Waiters because everyone now is going to be like, hey, you are

Speaker 1 the dude in like high school who's like, I think I'm having a heart attack because you smoked too much and then ruined it for everyone and everyone's parents got called and were like they smoke weed so good job Dion weeders fucking narc why did you have to even say that you took an edible why couldn't you wasn't the first report that he had a seizure yes yes which that was so ridiculous because like that's that's basically a meme like the my son overdosed on marijuana yeah i overdosed and i had a seizure because i took i i ate two gummies instead of one yeah uh he said just switch to indica it'll mel you out dude you don't wear that sativa stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the shit you just do, like Netflix and chill. By the way, I've got more brownies if Hank wants them.
I mean, I've made a fresh batch.

Speaker 3 Only on a Monday, Wednesday, or Friday.

Speaker 1 We'll do one show in the next month where Hank will be high, and we won't tell you which one it is, and you have to guess.

Speaker 1 We should actually do a roulette show where we make brownies, and then one of us has to, when we eat, one of us has the brownies that are bad

Speaker 1 or good, depending on how you look at it. We should just do another part of my toke.
Yeah, we should. It's part of my bake.
Part of my either way.

Speaker 1 I mean, one is rhymes with the. Yeah.
Yeah, but the other has the same letter.

Speaker 3 Same letters. Part of my smoke week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Part of my toque looks better.
Yeah. Part of my bake sounds better.
Well, what are we doing right now? Are we high?

Speaker 1 Let us know.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 my who's back of the week is.

Speaker 1 I do feel high at the end of it. When the American Ninja Warrior comes on and you know it's past one o'clock, I do start feeling high on something.
We get delirious. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My who's back of the week is James Dean.

Speaker 1 The cool guy or the porn star? The cool guy. Okay.

Speaker 1 Who is also the porn star? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Is James Dean not cool? No,

Speaker 1 the dead actor. Is having

Speaker 1 a Togg and the Torah? Or the actor that is still working?

Speaker 1 Learn some fucking culture. I'm talking about the guy who was cool in the 50s.
Yeah, I know. That's who's back.
Not the actor. Not the porn star.

Speaker 1 I was saying, you can't say that James Dean, the porn star, is not also ape, I think he's problematic. Is he? If so, does he

Speaker 1 not? Big piece. Yeah, that is.
That's problematic.

Speaker 1 He shames me. I can't watch porn with guys that have huge disease.
James Dean.

Speaker 1 If they're the male lead, it's just like I can't put myself in his skin. All right, so which one's back? Call that talking.

Speaker 1 James Dean. The which one? The old one.
Got it. So the dead one.
Why? Dead James Dean is back because. Ah, yeah.
James Dean, the other one. Rape and sexual misconduct.

Speaker 1 Okay, disavow. Disavow.

Speaker 1 Disavow. The old James Dean's back because they are reanimating him.
Not his body, but they're using footage of him and putting him into a movie about Vietnam.

Speaker 1 So he's going to be playing the part of a soldier in a war that he wasn't even alive to see, even though he's been dead for like 50 years. That's kind of cool.
So they're bringing him back.

Speaker 1 But it's a slippery slope. Why? Like 40 years from now, we're going to have Tom Hanks reanimate to play Jeffrey Epstein or something weird like that.

Speaker 1 If you can't control what people in the future are going to be doing with your face and your body for deep fakes. Yeah, but but what do you care? You're dead.

Speaker 1 But you don't want to play a bad guy, do you? You're dead. I don't think you care.
You're dead. Just overall, you'd be fine playing whoever.
I think when you're dead, you're dead. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think you can't ask me if I'd be fine with it because I'd be dead. Okay, who's back of the week is Pluto because NASA's chief administrator said that Pluto is a planet again.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 So Pluto's back big time. That was really chapping my ass story.
Big comeback story. Huge, huge.
I like how planets have a relegation system, like the EPL.

Speaker 1 Like, Pluto went from being the ninth planet to just, like, basically an asteroid. It got neg so.
Now it's back. Now it's back.
Now it's a full-on planet again. All right, My Who's Back? Pinstripes.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Liam, for giving me this one. But I actually saw this last night.

Speaker 1 I didn't see the pinstripes, but I saw the Padre's new uniforms. Padres,

Speaker 1 Brown is back,

Speaker 1 which was a very weird hashtag to fall upon on a Saturday night. I was like, Brown is back.
What's going on? So I clicked on it. These Padre uniforms are fucking awesome.
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 So they're going back.

Speaker 1 They went went blue for the last 25 years. They're back to like the Tony Gwynn brown and yellow.

Speaker 1 And they are sexy.

Speaker 1 Real sexy. I'm looking at them up right now.
They look very sweet. Yeah, and they have pinstripes.
So we will start giving out Padre pinstripes. So Adam.

Speaker 1 David Machado, you've earned your pinstripes by just picking the Padres and having everyone forget that you make $300 million and who cares? So it's the, who else do do we give out pinstripes for now?

Speaker 1 It's Fernando Tatis Jr., you get pinstripes. It's the Mets, the Phillies,

Speaker 1 the Diamondbacks. Yeah.
Cubs. Cubs.

Speaker 1 Marlins. Marlins.

Speaker 1 And Padres. Padres.
Done. Padres.
Okay. I just have to make a little bit of it.
Rockies. Rockies is.
Rockies. You forgot the Rockies.
Shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do Football Guy of the Week. So this week we have

Speaker 1 first up, Frank Martin, who is not a football coach, but he said himself he's a football guy. Yeah.
So this is now the new trend. Jim Boylan, Frank Martin.
We have football coaches, the coach,

Speaker 1 Boise State, who ate the matchbook.

Speaker 1 This new trend of basketball coaches being football guys, I like it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Frank Martin is kind of like a Shanahan from another dimension. Yes.
He's got that, like, the sweatiness, the face that's always kind of in a scowl all the time.

Speaker 1 And he's a guy that I'm shocked that Frank Martin hasn't gone on a tirade against cell phones yet this year. Yeah.
He's good for one of those every seven to eight months. Although he's a little

Speaker 1 knowing Frank Martin, he's a little bit better than that because he's a little bit better of a recruiter than to go after cell phones. Yeah.
He's like more go after

Speaker 1 guys sitting out ball games. Okay.
So he's a little,

Speaker 1 you know, like, cell phones is the bottom level of going after millennials. You got to, you got to, the next level up is questioning their toughness and, like, their will to be with the team.

Speaker 1 Getting into Dan Dockett's territory. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. Gotcha.
I do want to see Frank Martin at some point coach in the Aloha Classic out in Hawaii. Yes.
And see him in a Hawaiian shirt in LA. Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't think I could imagine something that goes against what I think of more than that. It would be so good.
All right.

Speaker 1 Next up, up, we have Coach O for letting it all out after one of the biggest wins in his career. He cried a little bit, but it was the best cry.
He also had the famous, now famous, Roll Tide, what?

Speaker 1 Fuck you,

Speaker 1 post-game press conference. We're going to get to more on that game in a minute.
I don't think that was Coach O. It could have been anybody.
Yeah, I don't want to get him in trouble.

Speaker 1 We didn't see who said it. That could have been any voice.
Also, Coach O doesn't cry. I just, I don't, I think his eyes.
He was just,

Speaker 1 he looked ripped. Yeah.
Ripped. Dude, he's been living.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, Gary Danielson, who's like, that's the most coach who's ever ran in his life. Bro, he runs every day with the sun.
He's friends with the sun. Tiger.

Speaker 1 Luke Keekly for not wearing sleeves in a game since freshman year in high school, no matter the weather. I don't think that's a football guy move to publicly declare that.

Speaker 1 Because it's

Speaker 1 that he remembers that he used to wear sleeves and he made a conscious decision to say, hey, I'm going to try to act like I'm not cold. A real football guy just doesn't feel cold.
It's true.

Speaker 1 And then the random Raider fan for skipping his court date so he could attend Thursday night football. I love that guy because

Speaker 1 any other stadium and it's like that guy's not, he's just fucking around. Raider fan, you're like, no, he skipped his court date.
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would like to have that guy win, but I don't want to blow his spot up more. It's the thing.
Yeah, that's true. Good point.

Speaker 1 Okay, before we get to. The judge was probably at the game anyway.

Speaker 1 He definitely skipped it, too. He's like, I also was skipping it.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up. We got some college football talk.
We got a Monday reading, and then we'll send you on your way. We have Jerry Rice coming up on Wednesday.
Awesome interview with him.

Speaker 1 He came in person.

Speaker 1 It was pretty cool to talk to the GOAT.

Speaker 1 College football, LSU, Alabama, roll-tide. What? Fuck you.
Fuck you. Oh, was that an awesome game?

Speaker 1 Joe Burrow, Heisman moment.

Speaker 1 When he got his pants pulled down a couple weeks ago. When he got his pants pulled down a couple weeks ago, the running back for the

Speaker 1 LSU Tigers was incredible. His name was Laird.
Yep, he was incredible. He's a short king.
And guess what? Saban, I mean, for all the people who hated on Coach O, how could Coach O beat Saban?

Speaker 1 Well, he just went in Tuscaloosa and he fucking kicked your ass. It was an ass beat.
It ended up being a one-touchdown game, but it was

Speaker 1 such an awesome game. It was such an ass kicking game.
And it was such an awesome game going back and forth. I mean, you knew that Bama wasn't going to give up.

Speaker 1 You knew they were going to come back in that second half. Do you think that deep down there are some LSU fans who are, you know, they're glad that they won that secretly miss 9-6?

Speaker 1 Just like in the defense of Slug Fest. They're like, you know what? This is great.
I'm glad we won.

Speaker 1 But it ain't real football. It's not SEC football.
I don't know. That was, I mean, LSU's just got so much swag, and it's just so good.
Nick Saban,

Speaker 1 this is the crazy thing about Nick Saban. I think I saw an article today in his entire career at Alabama.
I think he's been there 12 years, 2007.

Speaker 1 There was someone wrote an article that was like ranking.

Speaker 1 the most memorable of Nick Saban's 24 losses at Alabama.

Speaker 1 He's been there for fucking 12 years. You can actually sit down.
You can actually, like,

Speaker 1 and like five of them or six of them came in year one. Uh-huh.
It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Yes, it is stidiculous. It feels like an event when Alabama loses.

Speaker 1 Credit to Nick Sabin for getting blown out and embarrassed and not using his kicker as a lead blocker. So his progress is a step forward for the Alabama.
They're going to get blown out.

Speaker 1 But did they do enough? It was an ass kicking. Get on.
Yeah, let me ask you a question because this is going to be the question that's going to get discussed.

Speaker 1 Did they do enough to possibly get in as a one-loss team?

Speaker 1 Because this was always the narrative that the loser of this game, not having to go to the SEC championship, may be in a better spot going forward because

Speaker 1 they will be the second team in. I don't think that's going to happen this year as long as Oregon or Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 I think Oklahoma will probably catch another loss, but if Oregon doesn't catch another loss,

Speaker 1 I think they will probably end up putting in Oregon over if they win their conference tourney against Utah over a one-loss non-conference tourney or conference championship game, Alabama.

Speaker 1 Alabama could, they had two options once they started to get beat pretty badly to keep themselves in the conversation. One was to narrow the deficit.

Speaker 1 The second was to have Tua taken off the field in like a stretcher and really overplayed the injury.

Speaker 1 And so they could just pin it on like Tua's not healthy. That fumble he made was so funny.
It was pretty good, yeah. It was the James Winston fumble.
Yeah, it was great. It was wonderful to watch.

Speaker 1 It was a great game. So they could either,

Speaker 1 have had an argument if they said Tua is not ready to play.

Speaker 1 He's at like 50%. So this wasn't really Alabama.
This was Alabama

Speaker 1 with a quarterback that probably shouldn't be out there. So I think Alabama still gets in.
I think they would get in over Oregon. Yeah.
Because, dude, the committee loves SEC teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but it's Alabama. Tac 10 hasn't been in there forever.

Speaker 1 And I just think the way they got beat at home, it was only a six-point game, but like we were saying, like it was LSU kind of put it on them. I mean, that Alabama's wide receivers are so insane.

Speaker 1 LSU's wide receivers are so insane, but Judy and

Speaker 1 Waddle are like,

Speaker 1 that punt return where he got fucking, where Waddle got tackled with his face mask and still ran it back. Just electric play after electric play.
Awesome college football game. Loved it.

Speaker 1 One of the touchdowns for Alabama was because the defensive back from LSU was looking over at the sidelines. His coach was saying cheating.
So that's cheating.

Speaker 1 They shouldn't have snapped the ball then. The defense wasn't ready.
But Joe Burrow's got that moxie. He's got that late, like, fourth quarter moxie.

Speaker 1 When you knew, because you knew there was that moment where it was like, Alabama's got all the momentum. This is probably going to be bad.

Speaker 1 And Joe Burrow's like, nope, let's go on a drive here and we'll score again. And there's something about, and I know we're picking on Alabama, but you should, Alabama fans.

Speaker 1 You've had it too good for two men. Well, they can't get mad because guess what? The reason why we're picking on you, we just said it, like, an Alabama loss is an event.
It really is.

Speaker 1 That's That's how rare they are.

Speaker 1 An Alabama home loss, when they show all the fans and they're all wearing the hound's tooth and they look, you know, ridiculous being sad because you just don't even visualize them as sad because they always win.

Speaker 1 It's it is awesome. It's like their world crumbling around them.
Yeah, it's like everything I've known is alive.

Speaker 1 Nick doesn't lose these games. Oh, I like that you went Nick.
Nick doesn't lose. Miss Terry is probably Miss Terry made Nick sleep outside.

Speaker 1 No, Miss Terry was like, maybe he'll maybe he'll retire soon.

Speaker 1 There's one more close. Be careful what you wish for, Miss Terry.
Like having Nick away from football, just around the house. There'd be a lot of cream pies.
And

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the oatmeal cream pies. Not the James Dean ones.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
Jimmy Dean ones. The James Dean cream pie? The actor from the 1950s? Yeah.
Okay. You love Little Debbie Pie.

Speaker 3 Marilyn Monroe.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 Is that true? Yeah. Okay.
Wow, what a legend. The other college football game we've got to talk about.
Minnesota is for real.

Speaker 1 For now.

Speaker 1 But they are for real. That was another electric environment.
Minnesota showed out.

Speaker 1 Minnesota fans were very mad at me because we tape the college football show on a Wednesday and we air it on a Saturday. They sold out the game on Thursday.

Speaker 1 So on Wednesday, I was like, this game's not sold out yet. They sold it out and it was a very loud, awesome crowd.

Speaker 1 I feel like it was slightly cheating to wear FSU's uniforms and make me think that they were at, like, Florida State was back. But PJ Fleck, he was literally rowing on the sideline.

Speaker 1 They deserve all the credit because, like, that's a program that just hasn't been good for so, so long. And to be this late, 9-0, insane.
I love that he wears the tie underneath

Speaker 1 the school-issued athletic gear. Did you see Minnie Fleck? Yeah, so Minnie Fleck was great.
That's when you know your program's back, when you get the little kids dressing as you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there were some Andy Reed holiday babies, too, some

Speaker 1 Halloween babies. The height of Kansas football was when Mangino had baby Mangino.
Yeah, that was the best. I think that's probably the goat coach baby.
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think Minnesota's there. It was a really impressive win.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I was unsure about Penn State going into the game because I hadn't really seen him play much this year. But Minnesota just molly-whooped him.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 Clifford was hung in there, and they had a chance to win, so it was a pretty close game. But still, I didn't, I mean, you credit where credit is due when you're 9-0 in the middle of November.

Speaker 1 And when you talk about P.J. Flecktoe, you have to ask what's his next destination.
Where does he go? Yes. I actually think.
He just signed an extension on Tuesday. But he still could.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Notre Dame. Yeah, I mean, I think he would leave for Notre Dame or U.S.
State, but I don't know if anything else.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine if the thought just popped into my brain? It's not going to happen, God forbid. But Coach O

Speaker 1 Notre Dame. Imagine him coaching that.

Speaker 1 Because it'd be fucking horrible.

Speaker 1 That would be horrible.

Speaker 1 And then Oklahoma almost died, but it was late on Saturday, so people are just going to pretend it didn't happen. Yeah.
To the clones. To the clones.
Was it 42, 41? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was the best college football Saturday we've had this year. I was just delirious still after the LSU win.
Yeah, but it was the best. Like wall-to-wall.

Speaker 1 It felt like the most action and crazy games. And

Speaker 1 I made this point. I can't remember because we do so many different shows, but I'm just excited excited for the college football playoff.
I just want new colors. That's why I want Oregon.

Speaker 1 I'm sick of the old colors. You want to get the old colours?

Speaker 1 I don't need a crimson and the orange and like, you know, the red, Ohio State. Ohio State's going to make it, but I want the LSU.
I want the purple and the yellow.

Speaker 1 I want the green in the neon with Oregon. You know, it just, the colors, because like we've had some iteration of Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson.
It's like all the colors.

Speaker 1 Give me new colors. Clemson? I want to close my eyes and see new colors.
At least Clemson has kind of colors that pop. But once you get the Alabama, Oklahoma, back in the

Speaker 1 Ohio State.

Speaker 1 It's kind of dull.

Speaker 1 Give me new colors. I agree with you.
I could go for the maroon and yellow of Minnesota in there.

Speaker 1 Is it maroon?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's gold. Gold, that's right, for the golden gophers.
Yes. Yeah.
So I agree with you on the color aspect. I also think, shout out just to the entire state of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 I think that 90% of the state is drunk right now. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. You don't have to go to work on Monday's a holiday in Louisiana.
Absolutely. Because it's Veterans Day.
All right. Yo, it is.
Yeah. Do we have work tomorrow?

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to the Marine Corps and to Hank's friend,

Speaker 1 our dog. No, Amrak, the guy who sells all the hot dogs and the popcorn at every stadium.
Yep. Armack.
Armack. Armack.
Armack.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's finish up. We have a Monday reading.
It's a quick one.

Speaker 1 And it struck me because it was after the LSU Alabama game, and Coacho got doused in Powerade, the blue Power Aid, which is an awesome picture.

Speaker 1 Our friend, I don't even know, Darren Revell made it about himself, made it about himself.

Speaker 1 And he wrote on his Instagram, the sports drink bath at the end of a huge victory usually makes for a great photo.

Speaker 1 But tonight, the biggest win of Ed O'Geron's career as his LSU team beat Alabama exceeded expectations. You see, the key to be an awesome photo after a bath is the color.

Speaker 1 color and PowerAid's Mountain Berry Blast did the trick. I like how he's schooling us.
Wait, did he say that? Do you see? Did he give us a Pantone check on a Gatorade?

Speaker 1 Yep, Mountain Berry's Berry Blast did the trick.

Speaker 1 As an aside, this is totally an aside, guys. As an aside, I did a story on Gatorade Bass for the NBC pregame show before the Super Bowl.
As part of the piece, I got doused at the end.

Speaker 1 This is my favorite part. Let me tell you, it is not surprisingly very cold and maybe surprising very painful.
Oh shit, Darren, are you okay?

Speaker 1 When those ice cubes smack your head, it's bad news. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Darren Ravel

Speaker 1 got attacked by an ice cube. And the thing is, the ice that they put in there, it's basically sonic ice.
It's the softest.

Speaker 1 Darren probably asked them to go to a sonic to fill up the Gatorade cooler so he doesn't get CTE from getting a fucking Gatorade bath. You You know Darren wrote a book about Gatorade.
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 He wrote

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Cucked the moment here. When those ice cubes fag your head, it's bad news.

Speaker 1 But when a coach wins, they don't care. Pretty amazing that this tradition has been taking place since 1984.
Thanks, Darren. That is pretty amazing.
That's pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Imagine Coach O listening to Darren Revelle complain to him about the ice cubes hurting his head during a Gatorade. He wouldn't understand it.
It's literally the softest thing you could do.

Speaker 1 That, ow! Hey, come on. This is surprisingly uncomfortable.
Coacho would just be like, what?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? It's cold. You talk about the ice hood.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 That ice takes away hurt.

Speaker 1 That makes your soul feel good.

Speaker 1 I want ice to be. You put some ice on the hood.

Speaker 1 I spend seven hours a day laying in nothing but solid, dry ice. I want ice to be my friend.

Speaker 1 I still crate her. Ice.
You don't take away hurt.

Speaker 1 Tell me how you put some ice in your tiger bowl. Go tiger.
Lap it up with a scratchy tiger tongue. Go, Tigers.
Go, Tiger. All right.
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