Football. Week 10 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Done Chains, And Coach O's Big Win

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On today's Pardon My Take, football week 10 recap, plus some college football recap. LSU beat Bama, Minnesota's for real, but we have a lot of NFL to get to.
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Today is Monday, November 11th. Week 10.
Diez. Is it the ocho plus deuce? Diez.
Die Yes. We turn.
Semana, yes. We start in the Windy City where Cocaine Mitch Trubisky shut down Marvin Matt Jones' offensive campaign.
Jeff Epstein Driscoll didn't kill himself, but ha-ha Bill Clinton Dix in the Bears' defense did. Club Dub is back open as there is no quit-kowski in the Monsters of the Midway.
Nick, that is. Bears 20, Lions 13.
What? What? What? In Cincinnati, where the Red Hot Ravens meet the rock-bottom Bengals. Hey, Teej.
Yeah, Boom? Is this the Ravens' backfield on the New York City Athletic Club in mid-December? You're too much, Boom. Well, Robert Griffin, the turn, was a quality number two behind Kendrick Lamar Jackson, who hooked up with the Hollywood Browns for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coach Zach Eric Taylor says full-eyes, clear farts always lose as the Bengals stay witness.
Ravens 49, the Cincinnati Bengals 13.

We go up I-71 to Cleveland where Freddie Mercury Kitchen says we are the offseason champions and he just needs somebody. Ooh, somebody.
Can anybody find Freddie? Somebody to chub. Frank Gore Vidal has had a long career, but struggled to produce any quality screenplays.
Stop me if you've heard this before, but the Bills missed an important kick in a game-winning situation as Steven, burning down the house, missed two crucial field goals, and the talking heads will be discussing his job security after this one. Brown 16, Bills 13.
Some spread. In the Big Easy, where Breeze are dying at an alarming rate as they're missing Teddy Bridgewater with claims that Drew is too waspy, even though he'll get a yellow jacket one day.
Alvin Camaradona in the Saints offense was plugged up worse than a nose after a night at an Argentinian nightclub. Dan Quinn Snyder has his defense jazzed up and ready to go in this big match, and his job is safe, as there won't be a quitter of him head coach this week.
Falcons 26, the sights, none. To the Meowdelands for the catpole at Pet Life Stadium.
This is a feline town. No room for Saquon Barkley.
Sam Darnold Schwarzenegger said, I'll be balk, balk, balk, balk, balk, balk, as he looked at the New York receiving core and said, Armani isn't walking through that door. It's not a tomah.
The Giants head coach, Pat Shermanator detect serious heat on his seat and we're not talking about a mike princess i got caught in between a boomer and a schwarzenegger we're not talking about a mike princess office champ on folks speaking of hot seats the jets coach Adam Gasolina temporarily put out the fire Jets 34-37.

Boom. Speaking of hot seats, the Jets coach, Adam Gasolina, temporarily put out to fire.
Jets 34-27. Nailed it, boom.
Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Tampa, Florida. Such a fine sight to see.
It's a coach, my lord. Looking sharp as a sword.
Oh, my God, that's with Kingsbury. Come on, Kyler.
Don't be a liar. You really live for 5'8".
You're going to get your GM fired. Bucks, 30.
Cardinals, 27. Nailed it, Pum.
In the frozen tundra we go, where Kyle Tim Allen looked up at the sky and said, Officers, I know who provided this cocaine. Aaron Brockovich Rogers said, Now that Eddie Lacy has gone, someone in this backfield needs to have a couple C-cups.

Jimmy Instagram made his influence known as Aaron Jones, brought the bang energy to the Packers offense,

and Danny Vitale led the way, smashing that follow button.

It was Aaron's day, but not Rivera's, as the Panthers' season was shook up by the Lambeau Snow Globe. Packers 24, the Panthers 16.
We are the Dolphins. Hey, hey, hey.
Look at us jumping. Hey, hey, hey.
We have come to the top for the first time. Swimming together as we sing our rhymes.
This is a new world beyond our dreams. We are the Dolphins.
Hey, hey, hey. Look at us jumping.
Hey, hey, hey. Dolphins 16, Colts 13.
We finish in the Steel City where Mike Tomlin was playing chess while Sean McVay was playing heckers. Huh? Mason, don't you know I'm human too? Why you gotta be so rude off? Brought the magic with an exclamation point, and the Rams are regretting marrying that girly.
Mink offense Patrick Swayze dropped in on Cali Bro Jerry Goff's wave, scoring six point breaks on the way to a Steelers win. Steelers 17, the Rams 12.
All right. Week 10 in the books.
Almost. Kirk Cousins has won a primetime game.
Now, Kirk Cousins, should we say Kirk Cousins won a primetime game or should we say Dalvin Cook won a primetime game and Jason Garrett's ineptitude won a primetime game? Or Ezekiel Elliott lost a primetime game game or or uh basically the entire cowboys coaching staff being like hey dak prescott is in the zone he's doing his hip motions and uh looking like an awesome awesome quarterback let's make sure that we hand the ball off a couple times in this last drive to establish the run when we need a touchdown you have to because that opens up the play action on the hail mary later Yes. If you hand the ball off to Zeke.
The clip of Dak before the game warming up, activating his hips, firing the glutes off. Firing him.
He was dancing around like, well, it was like, Hips Don't Lie. Yeah, Hips Don't Lie.
It was like a secure song. Yes.
He looked like Elaine Bennis on meth, if I could make a reference that Mike Florio would understand. Yes.
Seinfeld. And everyone's father.
He was, it looked so funny when he was doing that. Just like twitching his hips.
I'm going to start doing that before we tape. Just getting your hips.
Just getting my hips going. Firing them up.
So the we should we should say that the Vikings get deserve all the credit going into Dallas Sunday night. The Cowboys are off a bye and they have an impressive win.
Look very strong on both sides of the ball ball do just enough on defense against Dak who is who is playing unbelievably do you feel foolish by uh making a mockery of the Dunn chain and having the Vikings be Dunn changed because you have I I done change no longer a real thing I think what I need to uh accept is that Kirk Cousins there was a change I don't want to overuse the m-word, but there was a change in what he did when he apologized to Adam Thielen. I think they're 5-1 after Kirk.
I always said that he was a sorry quarterback. Adam Thielen.
I didn't mean, like, apology-wise, but now I think I almost, in order to get over this, I need to apologize to Kirk Cousins. And the Dunchain.
And the sanctity of the Dunchain. Because you've made a mockery of it.
Because you can't Dunchain anymore when you Dunchain a team that is very much in in the running here for like who's the best team in the NFC the Saints are you gonna say the Saints who have scored we'll get to them but they've scored uh three games this year they've scored zero touchdowns yeah I don't know I don't know 49ers okay 49ers are the probably yeah but like my point is there are a lot of teams in the NFC where you could look and be like, eh, they might have a flaw. Yeah.
The Vikings, you basically look at them and you're like, eh, their flaw is Kirk Cousins. But the rest of their team is pretty good.
And they remember they had a tight end this week too. Yes, Kyle Rudolph was awesome.
Kyle Rudolph, big country, caught two touchdowns. Yes.
And a two-point conversion. So I think the Vikings, my bigger point is the Vikings are definitely need to be taken for real in terms of the NFC.
Like they are a team that could beat anyone in my mind. I don't think there's one.
There's not one team in the NFC. We're like, man, that team besides maybe the 49ers.
And this will be a big game on Monday night. But the top five, six teams, the NFC,c you're like they could all if they get hot at the right time they could go to the super bowl isn't it such a bonus going into a monday where there's a game that we're looking forward to oh yeah it feels like the week is twice as long when there's a good monday night game that we have there's actually monday night football if you've taken a look peek ahead actually there's a really good run coming up yeah like we got a bunch of really good of really good games coming up.
They should flex that Dolphins-Cincinnati-Bengals game into a Monday night football game. Yes.
That would be great, too, just to, like, mix it up a little bit. And not that anyone cares, but, Hank, would you like to talk about it real quick? Sure, we can talk about it.
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Big Cat and PFT are in the league. They're winning.
Eight straight games. First in the league.
I was playing them this week. We're in a battle right now.
Right now we have Jimmy Garoppolo and Russell Wilson to decide the game. This even sucks just saying it out loud.
But you guys sat three players. Yeah, well, we didn't sit three players.
Get to the point. We had three players in a bye week.
We knew about it. We knew that you were holding it from us.
We were waiting to hear from you. You didn't us till 12 22 this morning uh-huh letting us know we've got three players that are on buys and guess what we did absolutely nothing nothing don't mess with chemistry we're this is the worst segment we've ever done all i'm saying if you guys beat me this week i'm gonna have to retire from this podcast oh damn so we wouldn't have to talk about the fantasy yeah we wouldn't have to rearrange the studio twice a Wow.
Yeah. I mean, he's not wrong.
I'm not wrong. He's not wrong.
I mean, everything feels weird. I do, going back to the Sunday night game, I agree.
The Vikings are legit. I do apologize to the Vikings.
Okay. I apologize, and I feel like if I one-up Kirk with my apologies, then that will take away all the magic from him.
Can you retroactively undone chain them for now? I will. Yeah.
I will take the done chain off. Okay.
Because then I feel like we can get back to it. It always felt like you were basically shooting from half court.
You were doing a cocky move to be like, Vikings, done. Week two.
It was a heat check. Yeah.
So the Vikings won, but Alabama lost. So it's kind of a mixed bag for people who really love cousins this weekend.
Ooh, nice. Nice.
That was like 1.75 just because I feel like Rick has done it. So probably I, I did love how Mike Zimmer looked.
I love the general aesthetic of him. We were talking about that.
He basically is a guy who who temperature and i think everyone knows everyone has this person in their life you know it's probably your uncle who drinks a little too much a little heavy um any temperature outside of 65 to 75 degrees and it looks like he has a sunburn so it's cold extreme cold and when we're talking extreme cold we're talking 58 extreme hot that a 79-degree day. He just looks very flush.
They practice indoors. They play their games indoors.
Well, they practice indoors for the most part when they're going to be playing a dome game. And somehow he manages to always be sunburned.
Like he showers in iodine, which he probably does, knowing his outlook on toughness and just hygiene in general. So that wouldn't surprise me.
But the vikings are a legit team they're very very good the cowboys are they're my most confusing team i think i i actually don't think they're that confusing and here's why i think that dac prescott is a franchise quarterback but them as a full team not that good and the teams they've beaten have been bad and they they beat up on like the sisters of the poor and then when they have to take a step up in class they look like shit and i think the eagles will win that division i think the eagles will win that division because they're now tied five and four and the and the remaining game is in philadelphia but if you look at who the cowboys have left they have to go to the lions at the patriots they have the rams the eagles so they it's going to be there's some losses on there it's going to be so I think the Eagles will win that division um and I think Jason Garrett will ultimately be fired which he should have been like four years ago but you know Jerry Jones just forgot to do it this week he's definitely going to start doing some press conferences being like what the the fuck is up with Jason Garrett? Yeah, and we're on, I think this is a five-game streak of Jason Garrett being shown during a game. He probably gets, I would estimate, eight to ten minutes worth of face time on those extreme close-ups, and he still hasn't said a word while the camera's on him.
He still has not talked. He likes to hold up one finger saying, we're going for one.
He loves to call for an extra point after a touchdown. Clap, put up the thing behind the play card in front of his face, but he's not saying anything behind it.
He's just putting it up just so that people can't see that he's not saying anything. Because they don't want to be like, hey, why is that guy never saying anything? He's the head coach.
Where did this paranoia come from where every NFL head coach thinks that there's somebody lip-reading him at all times? I actually don't think it's about the play calling. I think that NFL head coaches say, like, fuck you to their quarterbacks so often that they don't want to make that a big deal.
And it happens in baseball all the time, too. Pitchers talking into their glove.
That's just a cool thing, though. Yeah, it looks pretty sweet.
We should do a whole podcast where we're just talking gloves. Speaking into our gloves at each other? Yeah.
Do we have any gloves?

Do we have any gloves?

I've got one at my desk from my full kit I was rocking.

This is me talking into a hat right now.

Can you change?

There's no one.

See, you could be saying anything.

Hey, when we do the subtitles, put in a bunch of racial slurs underneath what Big Cat's saying right now.

Hank, you're a piece of shit.

You're not even paying attention to this show because you bet on this stupid Raptors-Lakers game.

No one knows what I was saying.

Well,

big cat,

that was really racist.

All right,

let's get into the games.

Before you do that,

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We had a bonus episode last week.

We had John Dornbos boss in last week as well.

He's going to be on his future bonus episode. So go to barstoolgold.com slash pmt um okay ravens bangles let's do it uh lamar jackson is so good he got michael vick's name trending that is pretty good vick was trending that's how good lamar jackson is that's how special he is he is uh out of this world like Mike Vick was that run he may had where he did the spin move and uh ran through the entire Bengals defense which stinks but still was incredible and they had the three uh the Heisman backfield yeah do you think that that was the best spin move of all time in an NFL game who I was thinking through the best spin moves in sports and Braxton Miller against Virginia Tech.
Do you remember that? That was a good one. Joe Maddon against Joe West when he was arguing.
And then Lamar. I actually think that Lamar Jackson could run faster.
A little recency bias, but yeah, that was an unbelievable spin move. I'm with you on that.
I think he could run faster doing nothing but spin moves than Eli Manning could in a straight line. Yes.
Conventionally. He's incredible to watch.
Also, this new thing that he does, it's not new, but you don't see it in the NFL ever because first you don't see pitch plays ever. But Lamar going like six yards down the field and then pitching it.
See, rugby offload. To Mark Ingram going full speed ahead is unstoppable.
i here's a hot take ready for one hit me this win by the ravens today was more impressive than their wins against the patriots and the seahawks because this was a classic letdown spot a classic spot where the ravens were going to read their press clippings and say we're going to be in the super bowl and we just killed the Patriots on Sunday Night Football, and the Bengals are coming off a bye, and they have Ryan Finley coming in, and they're going to spark the offense, and the Ravens are going to sleepwalk their way to maybe like a three-point win with a field goal to end the game. No.
They demolished them from the first play on, and having that The mark of a good team is crushing the bad teams. I really think that.
Anyone can win. The NFL is so hard to win.
If you put two very good teams up against each other, it's pretty much going to be a coin flip. But when you put a really good team against a bad team, if they don't crush them, I'm going to be like, you know what? That team's not what I thought it was.
I think the one flaw in your argument is that these Bengals are a team that will get crushed by everybody. They're actively trying to lose.
So yeah, this is, it could have been a letdown game. It could have been a letdown, but it wasn't.
I think, I mean, the Ravens obviously look awesome. I think that they're going to win the Super Bowl.
I really do believe that. I think that this was, this was actually Robert Griffin's Super Bowl had damn Super Bowl for RG3 there was a moment when he caught that offload from Lamar where you saw him consider it you saw him think about doing something really stupid that's what you always see that when when Griffin's running ball he thinks about running a straight line towards a linebacker a lot he And he's like, I can run through this guy.
Yeah. And he didn't do it.
That's probably the best compliment I can give to this Ravens team is that Robert Griffin has played offensive snaps and not gotten injured yet. Yeah, it's true.
It is very true. He played many offensive snaps because Lamar Jackson had six drives today.
One ended the first half, the other five touchdowns. That's pretty damn good.
It was really good, yeah. That's pretty damn good.
So the Ravens, what they did today, very, very impressed. I've been impressed with them the last three weeks.
Ravens fans still hate me. That's fine.
I'll own that. I'll wear that.
We got to talk about the other side. The Bengals are the worst team in the NFL.
And should we start, we're going to talk about college football later. But should we start the Joe Burrow going home? He's from Athens, Ohio.
I think he grew up a Browns fan. But that's still only like two and a half hours away.
So Joe Burrow back to the state of Ohio as a Cincinnati Bengal number one pick. I think we can.
It's never too early to start a narrative, Big Cat. Yeah, that's a good narrative too, right?? That's a very good narrative.
Hometown Kid. Yeah, Hometown Kid coming back to make good.
I hope that he doesn't go to the Bengals. I really would not like to see because I like Joe Burrow.
Yeah. He's a big deli guy.
I mean, the Dolphins would be... When you're picking number one, it's not going to be great.
Yeah, it's not going to be a good situation no matter what. I think...
I like, too, that we just decided Joe Burrow's going number one because he beat Tua. That's it.
That decided the number one pick. And that would be great if Tua went to Cincinnati, though.
Ooh. That would be such a crack.
And his helicopter dad had to try Skyline Chili. Yeah, say this.
I think that Tua would really look awesome in a Bengals uniform. Yes, he would.
That would look sick. Yes, he would.
I'm kind of rooting for that. I want to say something nice about the Bengals because I feel like we need to move off the Dolphins, say something nice about them.
They're nice on their own. They're on a winning streak right now.
They're killing people. We'll get to them in a little bit.
But the Bengals, I think it's pretty cool the way that they're handling the AJ Green situation. Yeah.
They're just like, oh, he was going to play today. He practiced a little bit, but he felt bad in warm-up, so we're not going to play him.
Yeah. They're just like doing just like doing him a solid like we we get the fact that you don't want to play on this team we don't want you to play because you're too good and we might accidentally win a game if you get out there so we're gonna pay you to help us tank by not playing yes and another nice thing about the Bengals um we at Barstool headquarters we have six tvs and direct tv there were seven on.
They were so bad right from the jump that we didn't have to keep that game on. Yeah.
So that was really nice of them. Plus, every single play was on the Red Zone channel because it was Lamar doing something incredible.
So you got to watch the entire game. Yeah.
The Bengals are doing a great job of being under the radar with how bad they're tanking. Yeah.
It's a good job. Yeah, the stories have been about the Dolphins.
The stories have been about the Jets. But the Bengals, you guys stink.
And you're doing a great job at this. So keep it up.
I think that's what you're intentionally trying to do. And if you're not, you've got to lean into it at this point.
Yep. And this was the plan.
This was always the plan. Yeah.
Trust the process. Yes.
We never wanted to win.

Okay.

I'll nitpick Lamar real quick.

You see him wearing sunglasses after the game?

Yeah, I like that.

It's a bullshit move.

No, I like that.

You're wearing sunglasses.

I thought it looked cool as hell.

You can't look somebody in the eye?

No, I like that.

It looked cool as hell.

It's an amateur move.

It were cool sunglasses, too.

They were actually very cool.

Yeah.

There were sunglasses that if I wore them, people would be like, that guy sucks and is

a tryhard.

And if anybody that's above the age of 30 wore them, you're like, that guy's a cop. But Lamar Jackson wore them and it was very cool.
Very cool. All right.
Bills, Browns. The Browns season has been saved in spite of Freddie Kitchens' best efforts to ruin it yet again.
That was essentially Freddie Kitchens has put on a master class on how not to coach a football team whether you're talking about the timeout he called in the third quarter which i still we still don't have an answer for the bills were going forward on fourth and four with like three seconds left before the end of the quarter i think they were trying to get everyone off sides he called the timeout with three seconds left yeah just to make sure that i i even said what we were watching is like is there some extreme wind we don't know about that he's trying to get him to go the opposite like he's trying to get them to run the fourth down play going into the wind like nope it's actually not a windy day at all that's the student section on the other side we want to be close to them to get a big round of applause before we hit the play it was crazy it was stupid it was really really dumb uh and then goal line and then the goal line situation from 0 for 8 0 for 8 from the one yard line that's the worst thing that's ever happened in cleveland on the one yard line one franchise 0 for 8 on the one yard line that's so impressive they got two two penalties that bailed them out and they still couldn't do it and then they the next time they go down and they're in the five within the five yard line and they go for And then on fourth down, they're about to go for it. They get a false start and they kick a field goal.
So they basically went 0 for 11 and then kicked a field goal. I'm going to chalk it up to the fact that they changed the markings on the end zone.
So they went from horizontal brown and orange stripes to vertical brown and orange stripes across the end zone. That's what they were all last year when they went 5-3, and then they changed it this offseason.
How did you know that? If you're the Cleveland Browns, there was something on Twitter about it. If you're the Cleveland Browns and you go 5-3 to close out a season, that is the best thing that your franchise has done since relocating.
Yes. Or since coming back after the relocation of Baltimore.
Why would you change a single thing about anything related to the team facility it's one of those situations where you're like don't touch anything nobody move things are going well and then they just completely changed the entire look of the end zone things are going great for the browns they have won 10 games in the last 26 in the previous 64 they won 10 games so things are fucking awesome for the brown swagger juniors want to know compare comparatively speaking they are on these are the the uh golden ages of the of the cleveland browns so freddie kitchens one last thing freddie kitchens just fucking everything up uh nick chubb was on fire and then you stopped running him i don't understand what's going on on. You knew that the bills could be run on.
You knew you had Nick Chubb. Freddie Kitchens is...
I'm actually at the point now where I'm worried about Baker being... Like, Baker won this game with that drive in the end.
If Baker wins games, he's keeping Freddie Kitchens alive. So at some point, Baker has to look in the mirror and be like, should I not try to win this game so that Freddie Kitchens does get fired? And maybe he's going to ruin everything.
Maybe Baker's hand got much better this week. Oh, yeah.
As first reported by. Have you heard anything about that? Bank.
Nope. How's his hand going? His hand doing all right? Looks good, yeah.
You reported he had a broken hand? Well, that was in week one. So it takes the metatarsals or metacarpals about two months to heal so yeah i don't really want to talk about broken hands this weekend oh yeah oh yeah yeah that was bad uh the pop pass you see the pop pass that was returning they thought it was a fumble yeah i love pop passes pop passes are cool because even if you're an incompetent play caller as freddie kitchens tends to be from time to, if you run a cool pop pass, people will slap.
They're more likely to slap the mad scientist tag on you. Yes.
That's a modern offense if you run a pop pass. Yeah, and also accounts for passing yards, which is great because they don't do anything, and you're like, ooh, that's nice.
Do you think Freddy just outsmarts himself all the time? No, I think he's legitimately a dumb, dumb person. So he's very easy to outsmart.
I think Freddy thinks to himself, if something's going really well, you hear the banging sound in his back? We've got to flush the air out of these pipes. All business Pete, tell him to shut the fuck up.
I think when something's going good for Freddy Kitchens, he always thinks to himself, they're about to be onto your Freddy. They're going to know what you're going to go to and you have to switch it up.
Yeah, he's essentially just playing a rock, paper, scissors, shoot game with the opposing coach. But the opposing coach doesn't know that they're playing a game.
So he's like, ooh, he thinks I'm going to throw a rock. He thinks I'm going to keep running Nick Chubb because it's working.
Better start throwing it deep with no offensive line. Right.
Really fuck them up. And as far as the bills go,

I feel like every game that they play is teens versus teens,

teens on teens for the final score.

Yes.

It's like always 19,

16,

17,

16.

The bills are,

I don't want to say that they're schizophrenic yet,

but I don't think,

I still think they're going to make the playoffs,

but they probably have the most glaring weaknesses.

They have issues in the AFC. They're a work in progress progress the bills are the classic team that if you're a bills fan you can sell yourself on hey we want to make the playoffs because we're building something here it's not a finished product right that's not what we're going for no everyone knows it's not a finished product they're not going to be competing for a super bowl this year but let's get the guys into the Get the young guys some playoff reps.
And then next year we're ready for it. Did you see Sean McDermott before the game? He was rocking the Peaky Blinders at? No.
That's a new thing this year. Everyone's rocking the Peaky Blinders.
And Matt Nagy did it, so it made it really stupid. That's very cool.
Speaking of which, let's go to that game. The Lions and the Bears.
Congratulations. Yes, the Bears are back.
Mitch Trubisky, they always say about your quarterback it's how you finish halves and start halves. Well, he had a touchdown to end the first half and he had a touchdown to start the second half.
And guess what? The other thing they say is the mark of a true team, true good team is to find a way to not lose five in a row. That's right.
And they did that. They found a way to not lose five in a row.
Maybe it was because Matt Stafford broke his back, literally broke his back, and he's so fucking tough that he wanted to play. He didn't know that he had a broken back.
And the doctors had to keep him out. 163-game streak broken.
Well, his back is broken. His back is also broken.
Also, 163-game streak broken. That is so impressive as a quarterback who has played his entire career behind like shitty offensive lines and getting the shit kicked out of him.
So credit to Matt Stafford, but thank you for Jeff Driscoll because Mitch Trubisky wasn't the worst quarterback on the field. There you go.
And this is one of those games where you're like, you got to find a way to win a close game. So you can take solace in that.
Club Dub's back open, baby.

Yeah, Club Dub's back open.

Which is...

It was a divisional game. It's hard to win a divisional game in the NFL, so congratulations.
Okay, so I got a question about Club Dub. So I declared Club Dub dead when John Gruden mocked it in England.
Matt Nagy said afterwards, of course we're going to keep doing it. That's who we are are what happens when the bears are like week 16 and they're uh whatever it will be whatever the numbers are yes six you know they're six and nine and they are it's weeks week 17 and they win seven and nine seven and nine not do they do club dub that's who they are that's who they are that's the problem you are.
It's in their DNA. Eventually, we're going to get to a point where Club Dub is going to be that club that everyone stopped going to because the bouncers started busting everyone for cocaine in the bathroom, and everyone's like, eh, we're not going here anymore.
Yeah, it's too hot. That's the new Club Dub.
Yeah, there are going to be people just throwing up in trash cans in the corner. Just the worst of the worst.
Yeah, like, oh, it's the bridge and tunnel crew here. We're not going to club anymore that's clubbed up it's not cool anymore yeah it's i i don't know i i think that uh you got to let them have some fun and you beat you beat jeff driscoll who should be a nascar driver yeah jeff driscoll great nascar name he's got moxie too also moxie-ish do you i i did a deep dive in draft jeff driscoll this morning when uh my world was thrown down.
I knew I had to beat Jeff Driscoll today from the same town as Blake Bortles. Okay.
Rival high schools. Blake put a fucking 50 burger on him his senior year.
55-14. Suck that, Jeff Driscoll.
Was Driscoll recruited to UCF? Jeff Driscoll, he went to Florida, and he was pretty much known as the best recruit

in Florida at the time. He stinks.

They got that wrong. He stinks.
They got that one

absolutely wrong. Yeah, he, I mean, he did

one of my favorite plays in all of football.

Actually, it might be my favorite play

that's a not successful play.

So, obviously, shovel passes,

a successful shovel pass is my favorite, but

the unsuccessful favorite

play I have is when the quarterback

runs like five yards past the line of scrimmage

and still throws. That is

Thank you. successful shovel pass is my favorite but the unsuccessful favorite play i have is when the quarterback runs like five yards past the line of scrimmage and still throws and yeah that is so always makes me laugh when everyone in the stadium knows that it's not gonna it's not gonna count except for the quarterback the opposite of an orlovsky yeah we're talking about people that can make things trend anytime a quarterback comes close to running out of the back of the end zone orlovsky catches he catches some strays and trends Twitter for a second.
Oh, yeah. He gets mad, too.
He searches for himself. He does.
Yeah, he gets it. So there were six straight punts in this game.
That was a lot of fun. No, that was Big Ten football.
You had to know that was going to happen in this game. I mean, the Bears are like their offense in the first quarter is they just want to feel out their opponent by going three and out as many times as possible.
That's just kind of the plan. It's like Matt Nagy's like, hey, here's what we're going to do, guys.
We're going to make sure we do no yards, positive yards. We're going to make sure we look really, really bad.
Maybe throw the ball into the ground and maybe like a two-yard run up the middle. Let's do that three consecutive drives, and then we will start trying to play call.
Playing possum, and at the same time, you time you're tiring out their offense yeah so they're not going to have any gas in the second half also of note uh Tariq Cohen scored a touchdown I don't know what he was doing I think he was shushing the crowd which I makes no sense the home crowd yeah like why wouldn't we boo you guys have sucked this year wait he was shushing the crowd that Cheering for them, but I think he was shushing being like, you guys are haters. Oh, you guys booed us last week.
You booed us at our worst, which is exactly what you should do if you're a fan. So I don't know what.
Maybe I read that wrong. I think you should respect the office of the players.
Never boo. It's very weird.
So the Bears overall, next Sunday night, they're playing the Rams in L.A. If they win that game, I will be all the way back.
I love this. I love that you're talking yourself into it.
Okay, so here's where they have. If they beat the Rams, which they can do.
Of course they can do. They would be 5-5 if they beat the Rams.
They have the Giants at home. That's a win.
They have the Lions in Detroit Thanksgiving Day. If it's Jeff Driscoll again, that's a win.
I like your chances. They are now going into December 7-5.
You hear that sound? Cowboys at home Thursday night, the next Thursday night. That's a win.
That's 8-5. All they got to do is go 2-1 against the Packers, Chiefs, and Vikings.
Easy. That's 10-6.
Hank, you see what's happening right now? We are getting a potential suicidal big cat coming back. Hold on.
All we need is that next Sunday night win. That's all we need.
If the Bears lose next Sunday night, I will not be hurt because I have not. That is the door I have to walk through to believe again okay they get back to 500 knowing that they have the Giants and Lions on deck I will be all the way back in on the Bears making it to the playoffs next Sunday is the biggest game in Bears franchise history I'm such a such a good friend to you that I'm going to be rooting so hard for the Bears because I want to see you happy next I appreciate it and it.
And then I want to see your little cat heart just broken into a thousand pieces. How do you like that? Three straight TD drives.
Yeah. Has anyone, any other team ever done that in the history of NFL? Probably not.
Do you think that this is a good thing for Matt Patricia's career? Like his longevity, that Stafford shirt? Oh, he's done by the way. You You think that – O, B-D-O-N-E, done.
But if you have a backup quarterback,

you can say, that's why I lost these games.

I'll tell you why, PFT, defense.

That defense stinks.

When Mitch Trubisky and Matt Nagy

can put together three consecutive offensive touchdowns,

you're done.

So you guys scored, what, like 40, 45, 50 points?

20 points. We dropped a 20-burger 20 burger okay it's a 20 taco listen baby steps but yeah that patricia is firmly on the hot seat i think that i think it might be it for him what his defense is not good hank he was brought in to be the defensive coach i don't know if you know but he was the defensive coordinator on the Patriots, so maybe sometimes it takes a little bit longer for those coaches to get the ball rolling.
I think he's doing a much better job than some of these other coaches that haven't been fired yet. Like who? Name names.
Matt Nagy. Whoa! Matt Nagy won coach of the year last year.
That was last year. When I say it, it's fine.
When you say it, it's fucked up. It's a what have you done for me lately league.
Wait, listen.

I can make fun of him.

Did you just?

Dan Quinn.

No.

No.

He just beat the Saints.

No.

Win.

Win.

Win.

Did you just say that?

Three straight wins you just listed.

You say that Matt Patricia's doing a better job than Matt Nagy, the coach that he lost

to literally 10 hours ago?

Yes.

And Matt Nagy won coach of the year and won the NFC North.

Again, I can say things about Matt Nagy.

He's a clown.

He's a cocky mark. And Matt Patricia has progressed.
What? How have they progressed? They've played pretty good this year. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
Matt Nagy put together three consecutive touchdown drives on Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia is, yeah.
51. Not aware of this? Yeah.
Yeah. No, I'm such a Patriots diehard homer.
You guys just hate the people that have been on this show. It's disrespectful.
I'm not eating. Oh, y'all.
I don't like it when coaches are disloyal to Bill Belichick. That's what I don't like.
I like what you did there. And the Lions got fucked over by the refs twice.
They should realistically be over 500. That is true.
Listen, I was someone. They're not on the hot seat.
I was someone who was saying the Lions. Hot seat is a strong word, I think.
I think he's on's on the hot seat i honestly do i think judging from lions fans that i follow on twitter i have a couple lions fans friends i think the defensive performance is putting one on the hot seat i really do all right okay i he won't he probably won't because the fords don't usually fire coaches that early in contracts because they don't want to pay everyone, but there's going to be some talk. Who else are you going to get, though? That's the thing.
Who's going to replace Matt Patricia? Steve Belichick. Possibly an upgrade.
How quickly is that going to start, by the way? Oh, it's already started. It has begun.
The second they showed him on TV, I'm staying a little woke on that. Greg Sciano, who, the way ruckers now i heard a tasty little rumor i should say leroy heard a tasty little rumor yeah last week and uh that was remember how shiano got fired or he quit spend more time with his family that whole thing last offseason yeah um so he actually i'm told had a conversation with the patriots front office, whether that's Belichick or whoever.
They said, would you leave if Rutgers offered you the job? He said, yeah, I would leave. And Belichick was like, well, that job is going to become open this season, so why don't you just save us both some time and get out of here? Damn.
He knows. Huh? He knows.
He got rid of him one season too early instead of one season too late. Yeah, Nunzio Campanelli whatever his name is.
Wasn't going to be holding that job for very long. Okay.
How about Danny Trevathan's broken arm? There's something. That was bad.
There's something that's more painful to watch about a broken arm than a broken leg. I don't know what it is.
That was bad. That sucks for him, too.
That was bad. Okay.
Well, in replacement of him, Nick Krakowski, who's going to be a Chicago legend in no time, who kind of is cause he already was playing in, he, he had that game against, uh, when Roquan Smith wasn't there, but, uh, he's a ski and he's, he's fucking white linebacker and he's going to just dominate in the middle. Uh huh.
I'm pretty sure that was West Virginia. That was John Favreau's character's name in that Vince Vaughn movie, right? Yes.
Same neck. Okay.
Let's go to Chiefs Titans. Ryan Tannehill has taken his step forward, folks.
Not really, but he did have an awesome game-winning drive. He took several steps forward, and he had a couple nice runs.
People forget the narrative about Ryan Tannehill was that he was a wide receiver, so he still needs time to develop as a quarterback.

Yes.

So I think we're starting to see that.

All he needed was a change of scenery.

Yeah.

It was just to get up to Nashville.

Mike Vrabel, this was a Mike Vrabel game where he was counted out.

I don't think – Mike Vrabel on the sidelines,

he coaches most of the game with his hands on his knees,

like he's getting ready to play defensive snap.

Have you noticed that about him?

Yeah.

He is ready to run onto the field. Oh, he would love to get in there.
He also, did you see his quote after the game about the fans? What did he say? He said, thanks to all the Titan fans who did show up today, maybe next time they can bring a few friends. I like that.
I like that a lot too. That's some fire.
Well, the crowd was filled with Chiefs fans. It was, all red in the lower bowl today.
So Kansas City traveled well with that one. It's also, it's kind of, it sucks when you have a city that people want to travel to.
Like, Nashville is a city people want to go to. So it's tough to have a home field advantage when it's, like, a party destination.
Yeah, if you think about it, what are the best home field advantages in football? It's lambeau field is up there yeah although the saints kind of goes against that entire theory yeah because everyone wants to go to new orleans but vegas will be a good test uh-huh vegas will be a good test because people will definitely go to vegas to see their team i mean everyone will go to vegas to see their team i want to say i don't think it's fair that the chiefss have two of the exact same person at wide receiver. Yes.
Mecole Hardman and Robinson. They're numbers 17 and 13 respectively and they're the same body type.
Both fast as hell. They have all the fast players.
It's not fair. They have every fast guy.
They've kidnapped all the fast guys and they just throw them out there and okay so Andy Reidy reed timeout dude timeout i'm calling a timeout on you right here don't give andy reed any ideas timeout the timeout he called with 24 seconds left he's got two timeouts he needs a field goal he called the timeout before the titans did a two-point conversion and then they still got it how do you call that timeout that's andy that's how you want to get it right big cat how you can't take him with you i also uh patrick mahomes looks to be okay but that knee definitely changed the end of the game when he had when they went they went to pass on third and two to ice the game he clearly had enough room to run and he didn't and I was like that's a knee like that's that's a play if 100 healthy Patrick Mahomes he gets that first down by diving for it but he made the business decision that he didn't want to hurt himself which was the correct decision but that's something to watch just because guys come back and we automatically assume

oh they're good to go and everything's fine but that was the difference in a patrick mahomes game that was there you know what they say about knee injuries that it actually affects your head more than it affects your leg yeah so he's thinking about it and he definitely was he wasn't as confident except when he was doing a jump pass for a touchdown yeah which is coming back this is the Tebow jump pass play

is coming back. Joe Burrow did it.

The run he was doing a jump pass for a touchdown. Yeah, which is coming back.
This is the Tebow jump pass play is coming back.

Joe Burrow did it.

The run like five feet forward, then step back, and then throw it.

Tebow made it look as ugly as possible.

Maybe that's why it took so long to come back,

because Tebow made it look so ugly that they're like,

that was gross.

It wasn't cool anymore.

But now it's coming back.

I got it.

Tyler Murray's been running it in the Arizona offense. Well, he has to jump just to throw a pass over the center so

that's that's one thing all together uh what i'm looking at the scoreboard right here how did the

titans score 35 points um they had derrick henry just run like crazy and this was a classic game

where everyone started talking about how the chiefs i think they're i think the chiefs rank

statistically were like the 11th ranked defense yeah so everyone started talking about oh these

Thank you. game where everyone started talking about how the chiefs i think they're i think the chiefs rank statistically were like the 11th ranked defense yeah so everyone started talking about oh these these chiefs are different they're sneaky good defense and then derrick henry just fucking blasted all over them the titans are undefeated when derrick henry runs for more than 100 yards more and i think yeah they're a super undefeated when he runs for over 180 yards.
And very, very undefeated when he's got over 200, including a 99-yard TD run. Yeah.
Derrick Henry is one person that I would rather try to tackle Saquon Barkley than Derrick Henry. I think he's number one on my list of running backs I just would not want to see in the open field.
We should do a study on what Trentrent richardson did to harm like the good name of alabama running backs because i feel like we forget about derrick henry we kind of forget about ingram forget you know like jacobs is obviously a new guy who is going to be here for a long time but i feel like trent richardson fucked it up for all the alabama running backs for a little bit we just forget about running backs in general. That's true.
But Derrick Henry especially. You kind of just forget.
Because if you listed top five running backs, I'm not saying he's top five, but you just kind of don't even. Most people wouldn't be like, oh, yeah.
And then Derrick Henry, he's pretty damn good. So he was awesome.
8.2 yards per carry. And that's how they scored.
Yeah, that's pretty much how they did it. 35 points just doesn't seem like it should ever fit in with the Titans.
They seem like a franchise that's just incapable of breaking the 30-point barrier, but I know they do it from time to time. Ryan Tannehill, team-winning drive.
How about the blocked field goal at the end of the game? I feel like field goals should be easier to time. Was he offsides? No, I think it was perfectly timed.
I think it was perfectly timed. Perfectly timed.
And the Chiefs basically had two chances. If they hit that field goal, they'd probably win that game because they go up eight.
And Ryan Tannehill, I feel like Ryan Tannehill, if he sees eight, he's not getting that. That's more than a touchdown.
Right. Five, he's like, oh, I can do this.
I got this. We don't even need an extra point.
He sees seven. He's like, yeah, I can tie this game and lose in overtime.
Yeah, absolutely. I'm your man for the job.
Okay, so that is so the Chiefs Chiefs are in a weird spot because they're one week you say oh okay the Chiefs are one of the best teams in the NFL shout out by the way Nick Wright who uh the worst thing to happen to him all week was the fact that he said the Chiefs have lost their last game of the season and then they lost the next game not great um Nick wrong and Nick wrong but yeah the he said that, he said it so convincingly. I was like, yeah, I actually kind of agree with him.
I was in on it. He's very good.
He's very persuasive with his arguments. So when I was listening to it, I was like, I think he's right.
I think the Chiefs have lost their last game of the year. And then they went out and lost like 48 hours later.
But I just can't. They're dangerous.
Spin zone. But zone but i don't know spin zone for the chiefs is they've learned how to deal with adversity this year that's true so last year they won too many games and uh and they didn't have to figure out how to bounce back from losing and how to how to win the close ones we're getting to that point of the season where the chiefs losing to the titans makes me think the chiefs are not going to do anything real this year.
I don't know. It's just those are games you should win.
Just my gut feeling. Like a divisional round letdown? That type of season? What do you mean? Like that's how the season is going to end for them? Yeah, no, I think they'll make the playoffs.
Right. And then have a letdown.
Yeah, they'll be one of those weird, yeah. Or they'll get, you know, be in a shootout and lose in the first round.
And you'll be round you'd be like oh that was weird like I thought the Chiefs were a lot better than that it definitely feels like the the top of the AFC doesn't naturally include the Chiefs anymore well if I think of the best teams in the AFC it's the Patriots and it's the Ravens basically and that's what I'm looking at and then Chiefs are kind of they're there but yeah and Texans. But it's like Texans and Chiefs are right beneath those top.
And I will say in the Chiefs defense, they have had a ton of injuries this year because Patrick Mahomes gets hurt. Then they lose.
Eric Fisher's been out. I think Mitchell Schwartz got hurt.
Yeah. By the way, the one thing – listen, I know Jeff Schwartz, nice guy, but the spelling of the name with the G every time someone responds to him.
So he was like, his brother gets hurt and he's like, oh fuck. And I felt bad for him.
And I, you know, obviously I went and saw it. Like I saw Jeff's tweaks.
I follow him and I like him. But then everyone responded was like, sorry, Jeff.
But with the G, I just read every single one. Sorry, Geoff.
So, yeah, that was the only take I had on that. From now on.
It's just hard. When I see the G, I'm Geoff.
When you reply to Jeff Schwartz on Twitter, just spell his name J-E-F-F. Yeah, because I just, it's not right.
The spelling of his name is not right to him because I read it as Geoff. Every time.
Geoff. Is? No, I'm the same way.
It's Geoff. Just name your kid with a J.
Don't do that. You have to Toys R Us giraffe.
I think I've said this before, but I knew a Jeff with a PH. Yeah, you have said that.
Yeah, he was an asshole. I think we've actually gotten into Jeff power rankings before.
Yeah, Jeff with a PH was a weird dude. Weird dude.
You kind of have to be. A lot of drugs.
If your name is Jeff with a pH and you're totally normal, that's almost weirder to me. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, you do have your vices, but they're, like, way, way, way underneath the surface.
Yes. Okay.
Let's go down to the Saints. The Saints and the Falcons.
Dan Quinn has saved his job. I think.
I saw Arthur Blank before the game said that this is going to be a very important game in how he determines what's going to happen going forward. So basically Dan Quinn saved his best game for the most.
Not the Super Bowl. It was the game right before he was going to get fired and he was like, I got to win did it the guys are playing for him we're gonna get that whole thing the guys are playing found the locker room they found the locker room so shout out Dan Quinn you did it man you did it and this could be a master class in playing the long game by Sean Payton like we talked about on Friday the best thing that the Saints could do is to get their asses kicked by the Falcons and then have Dan Quinn get an extension right after that have him not get fired this year would be great for the Saints fans moving into next year I would actually say if I'm Dan Quinn fire me now fire me after this win you go out on a high note you're in New Orleans you can go out and get shit canned on Bourbon Street have a great time wake up tomorrow up tomorrow morning, not have to go to work.
Like this would be the ultimate reward for, for beating the Saints is you don't want to get, you don't want to get fired after you lose by 20 to the Buccaneers, you know, because then you just think about that as your last, that's, that's what everyone remembers about you. Right.
Right now, most people would remember the Superbowl about Dan Quinn, but they'd also be like, he's the guy that got fired after beating their biggest rival in New Orleans.

Yes.

Speaking of which, by the way,

the Browns and the Steelers play each other twice the next two,

two out of the next three weeks.

Okay.

So, firing.

Yeah.

Isn't it always the Steelers beat the Browns?

Yep.

So watch out, Freddie Kitchens.

Yeah.

They're the kiss of death.

They're the black widows. Watch out, Freddie Kitchens.
This is why I was addicted to the Browns. Yep.
So watch out for any kitchens. Yeah, they're the kiss of death.
Yes, watch out for any kitchens. This is why I was addicted to the Falcons.
This is why. This game is why.
Their defense was good. They played full four quarters where it's like you were still kind of waiting in the third quarter for the Saints to wake up.
Didn't let it happen. I hate that the Falcons have done this because now this sole win is going to make me bet on them for the rest of the year.
You don't have to, though. No, but I will.
You don't have to. No, but I will.
You take that little voice and you tell it to shut up. Nope.
And on top of all that, I feel like – so the Saints question I had for you, is this just a stinker? Because every team gets a stinker. They get one stinker a year where it's like they didn't have it you know like even the best teams you can look back Super Bowl teams passed where they had one game you can point to it and say yeah that was weird they didn't have it that day is it that or the Saints have real problems that are kind of like underneath the surface here.
I mentioned earlier they've had three games this year where they haven't scored a touchdown. That doesn't feel like a Super Bowl team.
I think I'm going to file this under a wake-up call. I think this is going to be a wake-up call for the Saints.
So in the long run, it'll be good that they got their asses kicked at home. Their offensive line looked bad, and Drew Brees looked sk skittish and man i also think payton he gets bored sometimes and he starts like whipping out the weird tricks and he well yeah if you give sean payton too long to think of something he'll just he'll he'll get real freaky with it and so he actually let taysom hill throw a pass today and so that's how you can tell that that he's had too much time to game plan i'm just saying saying three.
I was astonished when I saw that. Three games this year where the Saints have not scored a touchdown.
That feels wrong. How many of those were with Teddy versus with Drew? The one game in the Rams where Drew got hurt.
Then they played the game against the Cowboys where they had four. They won the game with four field goals.
And then today. Okay.
I think that's fine. I'm chalk it up to aberration.
Okay, so you think today was a stinker? It's a stinker, aberration, wake-up call. Okay.
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Okay, so Giants-Jets. Where do we want to start? Winners or losers? Let's start with the winners.
Let's talk about the Jets real quick. Yeah, the winners.
The winners. They are 2-7.
And Sam Darnold said, we got a chance at the playoffs. That's true.
And I'm going to say this, PFD. This part of the season, right around now, early November, this is run the table season.
If you have a player, he has to probably be a quarterback. Maybe like, I don't know, your Pro Bowl safety.
If you have a player get in front of the media and say, we're going to run the table, I'm in. Aaron Rodgers invented that.
He did. And the word relax as well.
Right. But there's something about saying we're going to run the table that makes you go look at the schedule, and you start looking at it, and you're like, oh, shit.
The Jets, they actually might run the table, and who's to say they can't make it in the playoffs? That's exactly what Greeny was saying when he was going through the schedule the other day. Okay, now I disagree with everything I said.
Yeah, so it is run-the-table season. In theory, as long as you have fewer than seven losses right now, you can make a case in your most delusional states, you can make a case as a fan of any team that you could run the table and make the playoffs.
Dolphins? Well, here's the next... Yep, Dolphins, yes.
Here's the next four games. They're still on track for 9-7 games for the jets.
Cause this is, I, when he said that I immediately looked at his schedule. Cause that's really what they're doing is they're saying, just check out a schedule and tell yourself they can win next four games for the jets at Redskins Raiders at home at Bengals dolphins at home.
Yeah. They could absolutely win all four of those.
Now I think the Raiders are better than the jets Jets, but that is a west to east game. Always tough.
So, we could be sitting here, six and seven Jets going to play the Ravens on Thursday Night Football. That would be incredible.
In December. I don't think it's going to happen, but it's a possibility.
But Sam Darnold said it. They could run the table.
Sam Darnold said it. He said, now, do you say we're going to run the table? No, he said we've got a chance at the playoffs.
We've got a chance at the playoffs. And everyone laughed at him.
And I was like, that's not funny. He's saying the truth.
But you know what? You can point back if you're Sam Darnold, even if you don't make the playoffs, let's say you finish 8-8 and be like, yeah, if I didn't get mono, this was our season. Well, that was the other thing.
I think Sam forgot. I think he thinks that the games he didn't play didn't happen so I think in his brain they're like 2-2 they're a pretty good team yeah they have an opportunity to put something together here they could also just as easily go 3-13 oh yeah it's most likely going to happen they could reverse run the table they could flip the table like Jesus going into the money lenders just turn it all over I think that they I want to say I'm on board with the Jets.
I'm on board. They're going to run the table.
I think that they're going to run the table. I've talked myself into it.
The problem is you have way too many teams now. How many combined wins for the rest of the year? You've crossed up yourself.
You have the Jets running the table. You have the Dolphins going 9-7.
They play each other. Then you have the Ravens winning the Super Bowl and the Bills getting into the playoffs.
The Jets still have to play the Bills and the Ravens. So you've Pepe Silva-ed yourself to a point where I don't think you can get out of it.
I would disagree. I've made so many contradictory statements that I'm bound to be right with one of them.
Well, the problem is you like every team. Yeah.
I love football, man. You're the John Gruden of teams.
I'm the Drake of the NFL. That team could do it, except the Vikings, who are the best team of that bunch.
Nope. Vikings are trash.
I think we're all in agreement that they're a trash fire. How about this Saquon stat line today? You see this? Saquon, 13 attempts, one yard.
Yeah. With a long of three.
Yeah. Because do you see what Pat Shurmur's doing to him?

Well, first of all, Pat Shurmur said afterwards that he's banged up.

Why the fuck are you playing him if he's banged up?

What are your favorite euphemisms for guys that are seriously injured?

I like nicked.

He's a little nicked right now.

I like when they just say the injury is like he's got a leg.

Or he's shaken up.

Yep.

Like some guy just smashed three of his own ribs. He's always a little shaken up there on the sidelines right now Cobwebs is a good one he's got cobwebs he's got a severe brain injury a little rusty they kept saying about Tua as if they didn't know why if you ever want to see a classic old school NFL search Tom Wad, game-winning drive, and John Madden used every single one of those when Waddle got like 16 concussions on one drive.
He's shaking up with a little cobwebs here. Oh, the cobwebs for everything.
He was doing smelling salts. It was insane.
It wasn't a drive. It was a game.
I think he had like 10 catches or something. It was incredible.
I just also, you can't expect John Madden to try to diagnose anybody with a concussion. But he used every cliche.
It was like, you know, like way back in the, you know, early nineties, late eighties, where it's like this football is just football was getting popular, but we still didn't know what the fuck was going on. Instead of he's got a leg, he's got a brain right now.
Yeah. Um, all right.
So Pat Shermer is a bad coach. He should be fired.
Hotter seat than Patricia.

Yes.

Yes, absolutely.

Because Pat Shermer is ruining Saquon Barkley.

He runs him up the middle.

That's it.

Pat Shermer.

So we've talked about it.

He said that he's comfortable in losing.

He's the man for the job.

He's the man for the job.

This is also a sign of coaches that are about to get fired when they start talking about the future.

and I'm going to go here so he said i'm seeing the things that will help us in the long run and i saw that quote from him and i was like who what long run like dude you're not this isn to happen for much longer. I love when coaches do that, when it's clearly like the minute you can feel the awkward tension, when a coach talks about more than just the next game, you know that it's probably time.
Then a reporter followed up and said, what things are you talking about? And he said, he said, that's not for here. Yeah, that's not for here.
here so he's not going to get into details he doesn't want to talk about the things about the long run the long run so he could just be talking about two weeks from now yeah well i think they have a bye week so that's probably but it's just that i it dawned on me when i saw that clip i think everyone can relate to that as a football fan the moment the coach tries to talk the media and the fans into building something for the future and your gut reaction is, what is he talking about? He's not going to be part of it. Did he even have a look on his face? Like he was almost hesitant to say the long run.
He's confident. I remember when I, when the Redskins were doing so poorly at which could be describing any point in the last 20 years, but Jay Gruden did his weekly show, and one of the segments was sponsored by a furniture company.
It was called the Jay Gruden Hot Seat Weekly Segment. And at first, when he was winning some games, it was fine, but they kept the name of the segment.
Yeah. And so every week, he would have to talk about the Jay Gruden Hot Seat moment.
Right. And he would laugh about it at the end, but everybody else was kind of like very puckered butt.
Yeah. Like, yeah, this is getting weird.
This is getting all too real. So it's all too real for Pat Shermer.
Now I, I think he's going to get fired at the end of this year. I just, I don't, I've been on, on the Pat Shermer doesn't really know what he's doing.
And at this point you have Daniel Jones who seems real. Although again, Daniel Jones, like that guy loves to give up the ball.
He only lost one fumble today. He didn't throw any picks.
But it was a bad fumble. Well.
It was a strip. I actually, when we were watching that live, we actually said out loud, like, that should be a penalty from how mean Jamal Adams was.
Just took the ball right out of his hand. He took the ball with one hand and he shoved him with the other.
It looked like they were doing a choreographed handshake that they knew was happening before. That's how smooth the transaction was.
Football is a violent, violent game. But what Jamal Adams did to Daniel Jones was straight up mean.
And they should have flagged it and been like, nope, can't do that. That was too mean.
And you know what the worst part about it is? Daniel Jones had to go right back on the field after that and look at that man in his eyes lined up across from him be like yeah that sucked for me please don't do that again sir so you think pat shirmer's in trouble i think pat shirmer has a face that just screams six and ten yeah he's got a six and ten face nothing will ever change that in my book but you have this moment where you're if you're the giants you're like okay daniel jones probably is the guy. Do we want Pat Shermer to be his coach? No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, absolutely not. Exactly.
This is the perfect time to get rid of him. I feel like this happens a lot in the NFL where you suck as a head coach, you get a high draft pick, you take a quarterback, and then you still suck somehow as a head coach, And they're like, oh, yeah, maybe he just is a bad coach.

And then they fire you after you're like John Fox and Mitch Trubisky.

Right.

That sort of situation. Get somebody else in that's going to fix everything.

Right.

Like they did in Chicago.

Right.

Exactly.

Matt Nagy.

I'm back on Matt Nagy's side.

Just because Hank went at him.

Yep.

Literally, that's all it took.

I was as down as anyone could ever be on Matt Nagy.

Then Hank said one bad thing. I was like, fuck you.
That's my coach. It just occurred to me.
That has never come on the show. That's true.
It's true. It just occurred to me that we're talking about the Jets making the playoffs maybe if they run the table.
They're tied with the Dolphins. That's fine, PFT.
Actually, the Dolphins are ahead of them. PFT, yeah, that's true.
In last place. They are.
But that's fine. Sam Donald said we can make the playoffs.
We can still be in the playoffs. When you start talking about controlling your own destiny and running tables, and I think it's all just about the fact that there's a finite number of games left and you can visualize, okay.
Because when you do the win-loss thing at the beginning of the you don't know you're like we don't know what that team's going to be when we play them in november now you know all the teams so you can actually look at it and be like win win win win win okay yeah the jets are nine seven yeah it could happen if they run the table for sure yeah what's once that loss number turns into an eight in the column that's like that's a red alarm that goes off season done yes season is done um okay cardinals bucks uh oh seeky question promo code take ten dollars off seeky pft yes when was the last time the tampa bay bucks won a home game it was week 13 of last year yes you knew that fact i didn't know that i knew my brain's full they have been on the road for so long that was a seeky question promo code take they've been on the road for so long I think this is their first home game in Tampa Bay since week three yep and uh yeah it's crazy they won a game at home and really it was one of those games that like Kyler Murray was a lot better than Jameis Winston. Kyler Murray's for real.
But the Bucs just did enough freaky things to win the game at the end. Well, so Kyler did throw that interception at the end.
That was bad. That was a bad pick.
But he was awesome otherwise. Yeah, Jameis is on pace for 24 interceptions this year.
His sun was really bright. It was very bright today.
Jameis Winston was out in full force. Larry Fitzgerald's ass looked huge in those red pants.
Did you see that? Like two clown noses stuffed down the shorts. It was a bad game for Jameis.
It was a good game for Kyler, but Jameis sucked less than Kyler in the last three minutes. Right.
Pretty much. Jameis was actually good on that last drive.
And Cliff Kingsbury coached a good game. And then on the last drive lost his mind.
And I think they ran like a draw to start in like a really small pass. And I was like, hey, you guys kind of need to get going here.
And it just never happened. And Kyler, I like Kyler.
I think Kyler's going to be a good quarterback going forward. He's shown enough.
But he still hasn't realized that like if you run straight backwards i don't know one out of four times that's going to end up in like a 25 yard sack they're fast people he does that he does that thing where he just thinks he can keep running backwards forever and then just throw it 80 yards down the field it's the old madden play yeah and it worked all the time if you played with michaelick in like 2006 Madden, you could do that every single play and win. Yes.
And it was not an issue. Can I ask a question about both these teams? Because neither of these teams are going to the playoffs.
But if they run the table, if they run the table, but would you say both teams are frisky? And if you if yes, which team is friskier? Because I would contend that both are frisky. They could win anywhere, but they could lose to everyone.
I think the Bucs are friskier. I think the Cardinals are frisky.
I think the Bucs are a little bit frisky. They out-friskied them today.
And when Jameis started running with the ball a couple times today, did you see? Obviously, we've covered almost to the point of exhaustion how hilarious Jameis is when he runs with a ball. Yep.
But you're obligated as an announcer to say, now Jameis isn't the fastest quarterback in the world. Oh, man.
When he runs with a ball because he's not. He's actually very slow.
He runs like with a piano on his back. Yes.
But you get kind of impressed when you see him running and not getting dizzy and falling down and tripping in the open field right he was able to make it 12 yards that's pretty impressive it's the it's this it's the reverse sneaky athletic for a white guy yes like everyone you have to remind him hey not not a running quarterback jamis actually not fast yeah byron left which on the sidelines also not fast people forgetwich wasn't fast. Yes, not fast.
Okay, next up we have Dolphins, Colts. The Dolphins have two wins.
They have won two games in a row. They are hot.
They're hot, hot, hot. Your Dolphins.
Winning streak. My Dolphins.
You don't even have to say anything nice about the Dolphins. No.
You just can state a fact. They've won two games in a row.
They actually, the only thing you could say about the Dolphins is they stink at tanking. Yeah.
They have a path to 7-9 or 9-7. Either one.
Ryan Fitzpatrick is fun to watch. But he wasn't even good.
He wasn't good. No.
It was a Dolphins defense. But he's fun to watch.
Somehow Ryan Fitzpatrick finds himself in a situation every single game where he's in the open field, and he gets a chance to run directly at that team's smallest defensive back and run them over. And you always think when Ryan Fitzpatrick lowers his shoulder, he's going to get his ass blown up because he's older.
He's not fast. He's not particularly big.
But he always seems to find the 179-pound quarterback and just level the shit out of him and run through him any any

yeah he loves contact and he wasn't very good it was a Dolphins defense today I think this was the end of Brian Hoyer because this is the worst don't say something so so utterly destroying to my psyche this is the worst when you're a backup quarterback at the end of your backup quarterbacking days you can get a couple extra years if you just don't have to play. But if you have to play and play more than like a quarter, like Brian Hoyer is, everyone sees it and they're like, oh yeah, his arm is shot and he can't make decisions anymore.
And this is bad because Brian Hoyer lost them game. So, I think that's about it.
Like, swag, Kelly. Are we thinking about swag? All right.
So, here's the other. Why not? Why not is right.
Why not is right. Here's my other hot take from this game.
Frank Reich cannot be in any Coach of the Year conversations for the rest of the season. Removed.
Removed. If you lose to the Dolphins, you get removed.
So much so, I think Brian Flores should be mentioned before Frank Reich in Coach of the Year conversations. For winning with a tanking team.
Yes. If you're the Colts, and I know Andrew Luck, and you had to do the change, and then Jacoby Brissett gets hurt.
I know I know all of this if you are competing for the playoffs and you have a home game against a team that is actively trying to lose that has traded their best players and you lose that game you are no longer in the running for coach of the year and you have passed the torch across the field to the man who somehow beat you while trying to lose okay I'm down for that I think that's fair i'm in yeah a lot of times that coach of the year award is kind of like a pity award given to somebody so much adversity and yeah that does that does the most with like a really shitty hand why not brian flores why not brian flores he's had it worse than anyone he was given a team and told by the owner we're going to lose and he somehow has them still playing for them like that that right there says that he's one of the he maybe not the best coach in the league but he's a good coach because he's got his guys playing for him when they all wanted to be like fuck this i'm out yeah he had a playlist that alienated half of his locker room earlier this year and then he fixed fixed it by trading them. And then he fixed it by trading them, getting rid of their best safety to trade them up.
He got rid of the wrong Fitzpatrick. They made him get rid of the good Fitzpatrick on his team.
And he's still reeling off a two-game winning streak. And we were talking about this earlier, but Vinatieri missed another.
It was an extra point today. It's bad.
It's we're we're looking at it and seeing like is this the end for him we're not sure then i mentioned to hank the idea he gets cut would you want the patriots to sign adam vinitary and hank was like i think i would hell yeah here's the question so i adam vinitary is a hall of famer like all time You know, like so many big kicks. If his name was anything else, there's no way he would still be on the Colts.
Well, you can't really cut Adam Vinatieri. Right, but that's my point.
You have to wait for him to self-select and be like, I'm going to do it to myself. You remember in the 19 or the 2002 World Cup when Jeff Agus was on the U.S.
national team? And he was like, he had been their captain for like 15 years, but he sucked ass.

And then he very gallantly in a game faked a calf injury and looked up at the stands

and was like, somebody threw something at me and hit me in my leg, which didn't happen.

And he took himself out.

That's what, Vitatari just needs to be like, I'm going to Agus myself.

I'm going to Agus myself.

I'm out.

By the way, not to get sidetracked, but shout out to Sounders. They've won two MLS Cups in the last four years.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to. I didn't even know that game.
We were going to get there. Oh, sorry.
How dare you schedule the NFL Sunday? It was a tweet. I saw a tweet.
The Sounders have won another MLS Cup. I'm like, what? What? Today? Are the Sounders a dynasty? They won it today? Put that game on a Friday at noon and we'll watch.
And it's also, I'm sick of super teams in the MLS. Yes, seriously.
You know what's going to happen every year. All right, so back to the Colts and Vinatieri.
Like, why wouldn't you cut him? If he's losing your games and you're trying to get to the playoffs, any other guy, and he's gone. A kicker misses two kicks in a game, and we got guys in the facility practicing on Monday morning.
The Patriots might be so deep inside the Colts' heads that the Colts have my theory that Vinatieri's missing on purpose so that he can join the Patriots for a playoff run. And the Patriots already fucked over the Colts with McDaniels.
And I already like a little, so they don't want to, they don't want to put them out there because they think that the Patriots are going to snap them up. I should back up a little because he did have a hot streak in between, uh, during this season.
Like he had, he sucked at the beginning member. He was about to retire.
Then he was hot for a while. He had a game winner, but it feels like, and this game wasn't decided by his missed extra point.
it looked like it could have been it for a moment there it just feels like a situation where the colts are playing with fire because they will be in a spot where they need a win and a big kick and it might not happen so i don't know i wouldn't want to play with that fire i mean as someone that i knew last year cody parker was that fire right so you're playing with it all year and you're like oh well let's hope it doesn't let's hope this fire that's been slowly burning all season it fixes itself it just puts itself out yeah she's gonna fix itself yeah that will happen i think that they'll probably have a conversation with him tomorrow and be like hey can you please just just do it just just walk away right let's just end it all again he didn't cost them the the game. I'm just saying this is going to be something.
I would imagine if you talked to every single Colts fan, they would have the same exact answer. They'd be like, no, we can't cut Adam Vinatieri.
He's a legend. And then if you gave him three beers, they'd be like, yeah, we're pretty nervous about this.
If we get in a big situation, I don't have faith that he's going to hit it. And then what happens when you have a kicker that you don't trust, that your coach doesn't trust, it affects everything that your coach does.
And he gets weird with it. He overthinks some of the play calling, gets fucked up.
Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't take a knee instead of running the ball.
You put it at the wrong hashtag. That wasn't no faith in the kicker.
That was no faith in the offense. That was reversed.
It was actually like a combination of both. No, because if he had no faith in the kicker,

he would have kept on running the ball.

That's true.

So he actually was like, we're good.

We're so money, even though Eddie Pinheiro

misses every fucking extra point now too.

You want to hear a spin zone about that though?

If they hadn't taken that knee

and they kicked from like a yard or two closer,

it would have doinked it.

That would have been worse.

If you lost on a doink as opposed to just a straight up hit. I'm in a good place this sunday we don't want to bring this up okay bears are back uh yeah they are uh we all know bud light is crisp know what else is crisp those colorful fall leaves crunching below your feet yeah you already know the bud light is crisp so rather than spending an entire ad reminding you bud light is giving the other half of its ad read to small businesses but no no free ads.
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The snow looks cooler from field level when they're shooting. And you can see like a little bit of the night sky above and the snow falling through that than it does from the overhead camera.
OK, that was my biggest take. The Packers defense stinks.
My other that defense is fraud city. I don't think it's a fraud city.
They give up 401 yards and only 16 points. So good job being Ben.
Don't. But I know.
And again, this is going back to like, this is me doing some studies. I have friends that are Packers fans.
Yeah, that's crazy. But I do.
They have said to me, they know deep down that this is pretty much a situation that Aaron Rogers has to be super human to win a big game in January because the defense, they do not trust it. But that's what he likes to do.
I know. He likes to have everybody.
But that defense is just swish cheese. He likes to be the only one that's good on his team.
Swish cheese. I'll say this.
Kyle Allen almost went fucking 90 yards on them. I mean, he basically went all the way there in the snow with small, little, tiny little hands.
I'm just saying. He did, yeah.

Matt LaFleur looked cold, and that's going to be a problem in Green Bay. That is.

It's a good point.

It does get cold up there, and he's coached in warm weather cities.

He looked like he wasn't loving the snow.

No.

And if you're a Green Bay coach, I think he needs to add on an extra 50 to 70 pounds.

He'll learn while he's up there that you have to build in some natural insulation

to get that Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy-type, barrel-chested, big-ass-type look. He's not a guy that can fill out a winter coat right now.
No. And he looked like he was miserable, not having a great time.
He was bundled up like Ralphie from Christmas Story, which is why he couldn't call the timeouts correctly, probably. Yes.
The defense is not good. I agree.
I don't think theys no their defense is frauds i'm not saying that you toss around the word fraud too far too much well okay well their team apologize to the word fraud like i apologize listen their team is not a fraud because aaron rogers is still on their team and he's still one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl so they will be in every single game. But they give up yards like nobody's business, and I don't think that team's getting a big stop when they need it in a big, important game.
You're probably right on that. Did you hear what Ron Rivera said about analytics? No.
When they talked to him? So Ron Rivera did the smart thing, and he went for two when they were down. Yep, because of math.
They were down 14. Hank still doesn't understand it.
No, we explained it. I think Hank gets it.
You get it? It's two-point conversion luck. Okay.
Yeah. And he was asked about that.
He said if analytics were perfect, this whole league would be 8-8. Yeah.
So Ron understands statistics very deeply. That's a good point by Ron.
The Panthers, I don't know what to make of them either because I feel like this was their big opportunity today because the Saints lost a game no one saw them losing. And I don't know.
It's going to be – actually, after this, let's go to the Rams-Steelers. But after that, let's take a big look at the playoff picture in both divisions.
We'll do big picture. Yeah, we'll do big picture because the AFC, so Rams-Steelers, the AFC playoff picture is a mess.
Rams-Steelers, Steelers win 17-12. Their defense is awesome.
I still don't believe in Mason Rudolph, but the Pittsburgh defense, like Minka Fitzpatrick, that's a rare win-win trade where the Dolphins get another pick in a tanking year. And the Steelers, they don't get a player in the draft this year that's going to be as good as Minka Fitzpatrick is for them right now.
Correct. Minka Fitzpatrick is awesome.
He's awesome. And their defense is really, really good.
He somehow finds himself in situations where he gets the ball and he scores on defense. Yeah.
And knows for the end zone. That's right.
At some point, you know, you can chalk some of it up to luck. but if he's always in the right place at the right time agreed then you're just you just know where to hang out agreed you know where all the hot spots are um i don't understand what happened to to cooper cup i don't understand what happened actually he i mean joe hayden did a pretty good job on him but i don't understand the fake punt that wasn't a fake punt.
Was it such a – is Sean McVay such a genius that the new fake punt is not even faking the punt part, but just putting your kicker out there to throw? Well, he went back-to-back-to-back plays with three different quarterbacks, I think. That is genius.
He had Goff, Bortles, and He we love pittsburgh i guarantee you when the steelers fans saw bortles come in they got a shiver down their spine because he owns that he does ever since 2017 right when he beat them three times or twice in a season twice twice in pittsburgh twice in pittsburgh he owns heinz field uh yeah it was uh it was a weird fake punt. It wasn't a particularly well-designed fake punt, but he went into shotgun formation, dropped back like a normal quarterback would, and then threw a crossing route that I think was even short of the sticks.
It was so weird. Sean McVay got his genius card taken away by Colin Coward.
Yes. He said, is it time that we discuss taking away his genius card? Well, I think the Rams have proven that any offense will not look like a genius offense if you don't have an offensive line.
That's pretty much what it comes down to. Like, all right, well, now we can't get our quarterback time.
Oh, yeah, we don't look like the geniuses we did last year. I liked that he got his genius card taken away.
The Rams are just, I don't know what to make of them. I just know that they got issues, and the Steelers, are you ready to believe a little bit in the Steelers? I've been throwing it around a lot.
And again, it always goes back to Mason Rudolph. He looks like a fat fat i know i agree yeah mason rudolph i don't trust him the steelers defense i trust and i think that they will win these games this is like they're going back old school like because obviously ben made it you know an offensive team levy on bell antonio brown all that stuff they're going old school steelers like 10 years ago, 15 years ago, where it's we're going to win the game with defense and just grind it out.
Mason Rudolph is a modern-day Tommy Maddox. He's a rookie year Ben.
Yeah, Neil O'Donnell is what I think of. Whatever Big Ben had a 16 QB rating in the Super Bowl he won against the Seahawks.
Yeah, when the refs gave him. The refs actually won that Super Bowl.
When Antoine Randall threw a touchdown, the only passing touchdown. Big Ben is also ballooning up.
Yeah, he is. He is getting big.
Well, it's... Putting in the insulation.
Yeah, you gotta... It's cultivating mass season, right? That's right.
He wants to be a coach so bad. Yeah.
He's got the headset on. I never expected that Big Ben would be a guy that would want to get into coaching afterwards because he's hated every single coach that he's had.
But I feel like that's the one way for him to continue his passion of butting heads with an offensive coordinator even after he gets out of the game. He can then become a head coach and still get into fights with the play callers on the side.
Hire Todd Haley just to fire him. Just to fire him.
Just to fire his ass. Like every other week.
But yeah, my guess is he's conservatively put on 20 pounds since he's been out with an injury this year. Yeah, I'd say so.
You could make the argument that he is learning from Cam Newton, who has struggled to rebound from injuries after becoming a vegan. So Big Ben is going the exact opposite and just consuming only animal products.
Yes. Heavy fats, cheeses, a moderate amount of cream, just loading up on the junk shit.
The Steelers. If the Steelers win on Thursday night in Cleveland, which is going to be a true loser leaves town game, which I'm very excited for, if the Steelers beat the Browns in Cleveland on Thursday night, they're going to go 11 and five.

Oh shit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know about all that.

They have Cincy,

Cleveland,

Arizona,

Buffalo jets.

We're in week 17 at Baltimore who might not be playing for anything,

but you forgot the jets are going to be in the middle of their table.

I don't,

I do not think the jets will fully run the table. They will get to that week 16 and then they will, that'll be the end of it.
That'll be the stake in the middle of their table. I do not think the Jets will fully run the table.
They will get to that week 16, and then they will go longer run the table.

That'll be the end of it.

That'll be the stake in the heart.

Yeah, but no, I'm just saying.

Beating the Rams is a big step for the Steelers.

I think they're going to sneak in.

So this is a segue to the AFC picture.

I think the Steelers are going to sneak in.

I really do.

I think the Steelers are going to sneak in, and I'm going to tell you who the other team i'm going to have you say buffalo i think i feel like he's going to come down to buffalo and raiders and i don't i you're not ready to count chucky out yet no i'm not ready to count chucky out i'm not ready to count chucky out but the afc wildcard picture is going to be a mess a A mess. Right now, the Dolphins are in the hunt.

They're on the in the hunt graphic.

Everyone in the AFC South is in the hunt.

Pretty much everyone in the AFC West is in the hunt.

Everyone except for the Bengals.

And then the Steelers and the Bills.

So all those teams are in the hunt in the AFC.

It's going to be a mess.

Yeah, I still think the Bills are going to make it. I don't think that's going to be a mess.
Yeah. I still think the bills are going to make

it. I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I think they'll be fine. Those will be.
Everything's fine. Fine.
Everything's fine. You're fine.
Buffalo's fine. Okay.
All right. I mean, I tend to agree with you.
I just, there's going to be a couple of teams here that are going to look interesting. And then the NFC, um, the NFC is a lot more difficult.
It's going to be a lot more difficult to make the playoffs, I feel like, because the Vikings and the Seahawks are both 7-3, 7-2, respectively, and they would be the wild cards if the season ended today. That's a pretty good record.
I could also see the Cowboys making it. I could see the Cowboys and the Eagles.
Winning the East? Cowboys and the Eagles both making the playoffs. You got two out of the East? Yeah, it could happen.
This is like last year when everyone rode off the NFC East and they had two teams. Okay.
But yeah, it's officially that time of season. NFC East is such a top-heavy division.
It's a tale of two cities inside that division. So you've got the Eagles and the Cowboys, which you could make a case for either one of them winning the division, and then you've just got absolute shit on them.
It's Two-Tone Malone. It's the Two-Tone Malone division.
Yeah, shout out Two-Tone Malone and that guy who's obsessed with them. All right, let's do who's back.
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custom made to like 2003 NBA

I think it's a bad guess. Hank actually has that.
A Tracy McGrady suit. You wore that a couple weeks ago.
Kirk Heinrich. That's rude.
Don't give me that look. I told you to look nice.
Yeah, but apparently you were lying to my face. No, I was, no.
My news back of the week is this league. Yes.
Dion Waiters did a move that I pulled not too long ago. When he got on a plane, he took an edible, and then he apparently had a panic attack on the plane, so they had to call the ambulance and shit when he landed.
He ended up getting suspended for 10 games, and then for whatever reason decided to tell people that it was a teammate who gave him the edible, but he's not going to tell which teammate. So it's got a lot of people speculating which teammate it was that gave him the edible, why he took such a strong edible.
None. I think it was the clinic.
Tyler Hero? Kelly Olenek. Ooh.
That's got to be the obvious choice. Probably homemade edible shit from Kelly.
He's Canadian. But yeah, this league is back.
I've been there, Dion. It's not a good place to be.
Edibles are a dangerous thing. I've never really heard someone that's taking an edible and be like, this was great.
Most of the time, it's like, I took an edible and I was lying in my bed thinking I was going to have a heart attack and die. Yeah, you take too much.
And that's what happened to Dion. Did he forget to add in I Love You Guys at the end of his podcast, too? Probably.
I mean, he got suspended. He's going to lose like $3 million so it's probably a little worse.
There is nothing worse than having like that one too many edibles. And it was your own fault for giving me an edible.
Yeah. Like I said, it was like the same thing except my teammate did it to me but we talked about it.
Yeah. And then you publicly called me out on it.
But that moment where you're like uh oh, point of no return Can't do anything for the next four hours. Like, I'm going to take a shower.
Nope, that doesn't fix it. Oh, I'm going to take a nap.
Nope. Nope, I'm going to die.
Still even more high. Still going to die.
Nope, going to just have a panic attack and then be the laughingstock of the NBA because I can't handle my weed. And you might think that taking an edible on a plane is a good move.
I think that's actually the worst place to take a nap. Oh, terrible move.
Because you think, think i'm gonna take this and then zonk out for a few hours and be fine what happens is you end up in a new airport and you don't know how to find the taxi line altitude and you just wander around and you're high as shit and then the worst part about when you're too when you're uh when you have too many edibles is you just look around you're like everyone knows i'm high right now right and and you're like it heightens your sentence senses in a weird way so you the altitude feels worse the the shitty like diarrhea air that gets recirculated is disgusting and you think it's like i'll take an edible and fall asleep but it's like a disease no no no you get paranoid you're too high to fall asleep now that's the worst so shout out dion waiters we know what you're going through bro even though that is pretty embarrassing you actually sounds like you're the dodgers game yes it was yes that was really bad sometimes we got caught in that in that line where pft and i basically just ordered like 200 worth of stuff and then we got done with it we're like whoa maybe we are high we got up to the counter and we were planning on getting just like a bottle of water and then you just kept on a pretzel and like oh yeah ice cream yeah we should get some ice oh the little helmets fuck yeah the helmets yeah so that sucks for deon waiters because everyone now is going to be like hey you are um the dude in like high school who's like i think i'm having a heart attack because you smoke too much and then ruined it for everyone and everyone's parents got called and were like, they smoke weed. So good job, Dion Waiters, fucking narc.
Why did you have to even say that you took an edible? Why couldn't you? Wasn't the first report that he had a seizure? Yes, yes, which that was so ridiculous because like that's basically a meme. Like my son overdosed on marijuana.
Yeah, I overdosed. I had a seizure because I ate two gummies instead of one.
Yeah. You should just switch to Indica.
It'll mill you out. There you go.
Don't wear that sativa stuff. Yeah, that's the shit you just do like Netflix and chill.
By the way, I've got more brownies if Hank wants some. I made a fresh batch.
Only on a Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. We'll do one show in the next month where Hank will be high, and we won't tell you which one it is.
You have to guess. We should actually do a roulette show where we make brownies, and then one of us has the brownies that are bad or good, depending on how you look at it.
We should just do another part of my toque. Yeah, we should.
It's part of my bake. Part of my either way.
I mean one is rhymes with the yeah yeah but the other has the same letter same letters part of my smoke weed yeah part of my toque looks better you have a part of my bake sounds well what are we doing right now are we high let us know oh my who's back of the week is i feel i do feel high at the end. When the American Ninja Warrior comes on and, you know, it's past one o'clock.
I do start feeling high on. We get delirious.
My who's back of the week is James Dean. The cool guy or the porn star? The cool guy.
OK, who may have who is also the porn star. Oh, no.
Is James Dean not cool? No, the other cool guy. The dead actor.
Is having a huge hog and plowing his retail. Learn some fucking culture.
I'm talking about the guy who was cool in like the 50s. Yeah, I know.
That's who's back. Not the porn star.
I was saying you can't say that James Dean, the porn star, is not also a cool. I think he's problematic.
Is he? If so, it's not. Maybe not.
Such a big piece. Yeah, that is.
That's problematic. It is.
For everyone. He shames me.
I can't watch porn with guys that have huge dicks if they're the male lead. It's just like I can't put myself in the skin.
All right, so which one's back? Call that talking. James Dean.
Which one? The old one. Got it.
So the dead one. Why? Dead James Dean is back because...
Yeah, James Dean, the other one, rape and sexual misconduct allegations. Oh, okay, disavow.
Disavow. Disavow.
The old James Dean's back because they are reanimating him, not his body, but they're using footage of him and putting him into a movie about Vietnam. So he's going to be playing the part of a soldier in a war that he wasn't even alive to see even though he's been dead for like 50 years that's kind of cool so they're bringing him back but it's a slippery slope why like 40 years from now that we're gonna have Tom Hanks reanimated to play Jeffrey Epstein or something weird like that if you can't you can't control what people in the future are gonna be doing with your face and your body for deep fakes.
Yeah, but what do you care? You're dead.

But you don't want to play a bad guy, do you?

You're dead.

I don't think you care.

You're dead.

Just overall, you'd be fine playing whoever.

I think when you're dead, you're dead.

Okay.

I think you can't ask me if I'd be fine with it because you'd be dead.

Okay.

My other who's back of the week is Pluto because NASA's chief administrator said that Pluto is a planet again.

Oh, nice.

So Pluto's back big time.

That was really chapping my ass for it.

Big comeback story.

Huge, huge.

I like how planets have a relegation system like the EPL.

Like Pluto went from being the ninth planet to just like basically an asteroid.

It got negged so hard.

Now it's back.

Now it's back.

Now it's a full on planet again.

All right.

My who's back.

Pinstripes.

Shout out Liam for giving me this one, but I actually saw this last night.

I didn't see the pinstripes, but I saw the Padres' new uniforms.

is it's a full-on planet again um all right my who's back pinstripes shout out liam for giving me this one but i actually saw this last night i didn't see i didn't see the pinstripes but i saw the padres new uniforms padres brown is back which was a very weird hashtag to fall upon on a saturday night i was like brown is back what's going on so i clicked on it these padre uniforms are fucking awesome i'm looking they're going back they went they went for the last 25 years. They're back to like the Tony Gwynn brown and yellow.
And they are sexy. Real sexy.
I'm looking them up right now. They look very sweet.
Yeah. And they have pinstripes.
So we will start giving out Padre pinstripes. So add them.
Andy Machado, you've earned your pinstripes by just picking the Padres and having everyone forget that you make $300 million and who cares. So, it's the...
Who else do we give out pinstripes for now? It's... Fernando Tatis Jr., you get pinstripes.
It's the Mets, the Phillies, the Diamondbacks. Yeah.
Cubs. Cubs marlins and padres padres done padres okay i just have to we have to make it make a little rockies rockies as well rockies you forgot the rockies shit um okay let's do football guy of the week so this week we have uh first up frank martin, who is not a football coach, but he said himself he's a football guy.
Yeah. So this is now the new trend.
Jim Boylan, Frank Martin. We have football coaches.
The coach, what's our guy? Boise State. Yeah, who ate the matchbook.
This new trend of basketball coaches being football guys i like it yeah frank martin is kind of like a shanahan from another dimension yes he's got that like the the sweatiness the face that's always kind of in a scowl all the time um and he's a guy that i'm shocked that frank martin hasn't gone on a tirade against cell phones yet this year yeah he's good for one of those every seven to eight months although he's a little knowing frank martin he's a little bit better than that because he's he's a little bit better of a recruiter than to go after cell phones yeah he's like more go after uh guys sitting out bowl games okay so he's a little hell of you know like cell phones is the bottom level of going after millennials you gotta you gotta the next level up is questioning their toughness and like their will to be with the team getting into dan docket's territory yeah right yeah gotcha gotcha i i do want to see frank martin at some point coach in uh in the aloha classic out in hawaii yes. And see him in a Hawaiian shirt in LA.
Yes. I don't think I could imagine something that goes against what I think of more than that.
It would be so good. All right.
Next up, we have Coach O for letting it all out after one of the biggest wins in his career. He cried a little bit, but it was the best cry.
He also had the famous, now famous, roll tide. What? Fuck you.
Post-game press conference. We're going to get to more on that game in a minute.
I don't think that was Coach O. It could have been anybody.
I don't want to get him in trouble. We didn't see who said that could have been in his voice.
Also, Coach O doesn't cry. I think his eyes sweat.
He looked ripped. Yeah.
Ripped. Dude, he's been lifting weights.
Fuck you, Gary Danielson, who's like, that's the most Coach O's ever ran in his life. Bullshit.
Bro, he runs every day with the sun. He's friends with the sun.
Tiger. Luke Keekly for not wearing sleeves in a game since freshman year in high school, no matter the weather.
I don't think that's a football guy move to publicly declare that. Because it says that he remembers that he used to wear sleeves.
And he made a conscious decision to say, hey, I'm going to try to act like I'm not cold. A real football guy just doesn't feel cold.
It's true. And then the random Raider fan for skipping his court date so he could attend Thursday night football.
I love that guy because any other stadium and it's like that guy's not. He's just around raider fan you're like no he skipped his court date absolutely yeah i i would like to have that guy win but i don't want to blow his spot up more is the thing yeah that's true good point um okay before we get the judge was probably at the game anyway yes yeah he definitely skipped it too he's like i was skipping it.
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Alright, let's wrap up.

We got some college football talk. We got a Monday reading and then we'll send you on your way.
We have Jerry Rice coming up on Wednesday. Awesome interview with him.
He came in person. It was pretty cool to talk to the GOAT.
College football. LSU, Alabama.
Roll Tide, what? Fuck you. Fuck you.
Was that an awesome game?

Joe Burrow, Heisman moment.

When he got his pants pulled down a couple weeks ago. When he got his pants pulled down a couple weeks ago.

The running back for the LSU Tigers was incredible.

Edwards Lair.

Yep, he was incredible.

He's a short king.

And guess what?

Saban. I mean, for all the people who hated on Coach short king.
And guess what? Saban.

I mean, for all the people who hated on Coach O, how could Coach O beat Saban?

Well, he just went in Tuscaloosa and he fucking kicked your ass.

It was an ass beating.

It ended up being a one-touchdown game, but it was such an awesome game.

It was such an ass-kicking game.

And it was such an awesome game going back and forth.

I mean, you knew that Bama wasn't going to give up.

You knew they were going to come back in that second half.

Do you think that deep down there are some LSU fans who are glad that they won

that secretly miss 9-6?

Just like a defense at Slugfest.

They're like, you know what?

This is great.

I'm glad we won, but it ain't real football.

This is not SEC football.

I don't know.

I mean, LSU's just got so much swag, and it's just so good. Nick Saban, this is the crazy thing about Nick Saban.
I think I saw an article today in his entire career at Alabama. I think he's been there 12 years, 2007.
There was someone wrote an article that was like ranking the most memorable of Nick Saban's 24 losses in Alabama.

He's been there for fucking 12 years.

And you can actually sit down.

You can actually, like, and, like, five of them or six of them came in year one.

Uh-huh.

It's ridiculous.

When he's getting it all through.

Yes, it is stupid.

It feels like an event when Alabama loses.

Credit to Nick Saban for getting blown out and embarrassed

and not using his kicker as a lead blocker. So it's progress.
It's a step forward for the Alabama program. They didn't get blown out.
But did they do enough? It was an ass kicker. You're on.
Let me ask you a question because this is going to be the question that's going to get discussed. Did they do enough to possibly get in as a one-loss team? Because this was always the narrative that the loser of this game not having to go to the SEC championship may be in a better spot going forward because they will be the second team in I don't think that's going to happen this year as long as Oregon or Oklahoma I think Oklahoma will probably catch another loss but if Oregon doesn't catch another loss I think they will probably end up putting in Oregon over if they win their conference tourney against Utah over a one loss non-conference tourney or conference championship game, Alabama.
Alabama could, they, they had two options once they started to get beat pretty badly to keep themselves in the conversation. One was to narrow the deficit.
The second was to have to a taken off the field in like a stretcher and really overplayed the injury yep and so they could just pin it on like two is not healthy that bubble he made was so funny it was pretty good yeah it was james winson yeah it was great it was wonderful to watch it was a great game so they could they could either uh they could have had an argument if they said two is not ready to play he's at like 50% so this wasn't really Alabama

this was Alabama you know with a with a quarterback that probably shouldn't be out there so I I think

Alabama still gets in I think they would get in over Oregon yeah because dude the committee loves

SEC teams yeah I know but Alabama 10 hasn't been in there forever and I just think the way they

got beat at home it was only a six-point game but like like we were saying like it was

I'll see you next time. Pac-10 hasn't been in there forever, and I just think the way they got beat at home, it was only a six-point game, but like we were saying, LSU kind of put it on them.
Alabama's wide receivers are so insane. LSU's wide receivers are so insane, but Judy and Waddle are like, that punt return where Waddle got tackled with his face mask and still ran it back.
Just electric play after electric play. Awesome college football game.
Loved it. One of the touchdowns for Alabama was because the defensive back from LSU was looking over at the sidelines.
His coach was saying something. So that's cheating.
They shouldn't have snapped the ball down. The defense wasn't ready.
But Joe Burrow's got that moxie. He's got that late, like, fourth quarter mo when you knew because you knew there was that moment where it was like Alabama's got all the momentum this is probably gonna be bad and Joe Burrow's like nope let's go on a drive here and we'll score again and there's something about and I know we're picking on Alabama but you should Alabama fans you've had it too good for too long I can't get mad because guess what the reason why we're reason why we're picking on you, we just said it like an Alabama loss is an event.
It really is. That's how rare they are.
An Alabama home loss when they show all the fans and they're all wearing the houndstooth and they look, you know, ridiculous being sad because you just don't even visualize them as sad because they always win. It's it is awesome.
It's like their world crumbling aroundumbling around them yeah it's like everything i've known is alive they out nick doesn't lose these games oh i like that you went nick nick doesn't lose miss terry is probably miss terry made nick sleep outside no miss terry was like maybe maybe he'll maybe he'll retire soon i i was one more closer be careful what you wish for miss miss terry like having nick, just around the house. It'll be a lot of cream pies.
And I'm talking about the oatmeal cream pies. Not the James Dean ones.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
The Jimmy Dean ones. The Jimmy Dean.
The cream pie? The actor from the 1950s? Yeah. Okay, that's cool.
You love a little bit. Marilyn Monroe.
That's true. Is that true? Yeah.
Okay. Wow, what a legend.
The other college football game we've got to talk about.

Minnesota is for real.

For now.

Uh-huh.

But they are for real.

That was another electric environment.

Minnesota showed out.

Minnesota fans were very mad at me because we tape the college football show on a Wednesday and we aired on a Saturday.

They sold out the game on Thursday.

So on Wednesday, I was like, this game's not sold out yet. They sold it out, and it was a very loud, awesome crowd.
And I feel like it was slightly cheating to wear FSU's uniforms and make me think that they were at, like, Florida State was back. But P.J.
Fleck, he was literally rowing on the sideline. They deserve all the credit because that's a program that just hasn't been good for so, so long.
And to be this late 9-0, insane. I love that he wears the tie underneath the school-issued athletic gear.
Did you see Mini Fleck? Yeah, so Mini Fleck was great. That's when you know your program's back, when you get the little kids dressing as you.
Yeah, there were some Andy Reid holiday babies too some uh some uh Halloween babies the height of Kansas football was was when Mangino had baby Mangino yeah that was the best I think that's probably the goat coach baby yes it is uh but yeah I think Minnesota's there it was a really impressive win I didn't I was unsure about Penn State going into the game because I hadn't really seen him play much this year. But Minnesota just molly whooped them.
Yeah, well, Clifford was hung in there, and they had a chance to win, so it was a pretty close game. But still, credit where credit is due, when you're 9-0 in the middle of November.
And when you talk about P.J. Flecto, you have to ask what's his next destination.
Where does he go? Yes. He just signed an extension on Tuesday.
But he still could. Yeah, of course.
Notre Dame. Yeah, I mean, I think he would leave for Notre Dame or USC, but I don't know if anything else.
Can you imagine if the thought just popped into my brain? It's not going to happen, God forbid. But Coach O, Notre Dame.
Imagine him coaching that. Because it would be fucking hilarious.
That'd be horrible. And then Oklahoma almost died, but it was late on Saturday, so people are just going to pretend it didn't happen.
Yeah. To the clones.
To the clones. Was it 42-41? Yeah, yeah.
It was the best college football Saturday we've had this year. I was just delirious still after the LSU win.
Yeah, but it was the best. Wall to wall.
It felt like the most action and crazy games. I made this point.
I can't remember because we do so many different shows, but I'm just excited for the college football playoff. I just want new colors.
That's why I want Oregon. I'm sick of the old colors.
You want to get the ne get i don't i don't need a crimson and the orange and like you know the red ohio state oh i said it's gonna make it but i want the lsu i want the purple and the yellow i want the green in the in the neon with oregon you know it just the colors because like we've had some iteration of ohio state oklahoma alabama like all the colors give me new colors I want to close my eyes and see new colors at least Clemson has kind of colors that pop but once you get the Alabama Oklahoma back Ohio State Ohio State it's the same it's kind of dull yeah I mean new colors I agree with you I could go for the maroon and yellow of Minnesota. Is it maroon? Yeah, and it's gold.

Gold, that's right, for the golden gophers. Yeah, so I agree with you on the color aspect.
I also think, shout out just to the entire state of Louisiana. I think that 90% of the state is drunk right now.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
You don't have to go to work. Monday is a holiday in Louisiana.
Absolutely. Because it's Veterans Day.

All right.

Oh, yeah, it is.

Do we have work tomorrow?

Happy birthday to the Marine Corps and to Hank's friend, our dog. No, Amrack, the guy who sells all the hot dogs and the popcorn at every stadium.
Yep. Armack.
Armack. Armack.
Okay, let's finish up. We have a Monday reading.
It's a quick one. and it struck me because it was was after the lsu albama game and coach o got doused in powerade the blue powerade which is an awesome picture our friend i don't even know darren ravelle made it about himself made it about himself and he wrote on his instagram the sports drink bath at the end of a huge victory usually makes for a great photo.
But tonight, the biggest win of Ed Ogeron's career as his LSU team beat Alabama exceeded expectations. You see the key to be an awesome photo after a bath is the color and power raids.
Mountain Berry blast did the trick. I like how he's schooling.
Wait, did he give us us a pantone check on a gatorade yep mountain berries berry blast did the trick as an aside this is totally an aside guys as an aside i did a story on gatorade bass for the mbc pregame show before the super bowl as part of the piece i got doused at the end this is my favorite part let me tell you it is not surprisingly very cold and maybe surprising very painful oh shit darren are you okay when those ice cubes smack your head it's bad news oh my god darren revel darren revel got attacked by an ice cube and the thing is the ice that they put in there it's basically sonic ice Darren probably asked them to go to a sonic to fill up the Gatorade cooler so he doesn't get CTE from getting a fucking Gatorade bath you know Darren wrote a book about Gatorade yeah he did he totally cucked the moment here when those ice cubes smack smack your head, it's bad news. But when a coach wins, they don't care.
Pretty amazing that this tradition has been taking place since 1984. Thanks, Darren.
That is pretty amazing. Pretty fucking cool.
Imagine Coach O listening to Darren Revell complain to him about the ice cubes hurting his head during a Gatorade. He wouldn't understand it.
It's literally the softest thing you could do. That.
Ow. That ice.
This is surprisingly uncomfortable. Coach O would just be like, what? You nerd.
What are you talking about? It's cold. What are you talking about? The ice hurt.
Fuck you. That ice takes away hurt.
That just makes your soul feel good good I want ice to be

Put some ice on the hurt

I spent seven hours a day

Laying in nothing but solid dry ice

I want ice to be my friend

Ice don't create hurt

Ice take away hurt

Don't know how you put some ice in your tiger bowl

Go Tigers

Lap it up with a scratch and tiger tongue

Go Tigers

Go Tigers

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