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Speaker 1 We talk a little Monday night football, the cat that streaked, the black cat. We talk a little hot seat, cool throne, Mike Francesca, did he fart?

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Speaker 1 Boys, this is

Speaker 1 sports nirvana. We have reached it.
College basketball is back. We're in the stretch where there is a football game every single night for a month.
We have everything going on. It's fucking beautiful.

Speaker 1 It is pretty. And we have a cat.
And we have a cat.

Speaker 4 Well, there's a cat game. It's also halfway through the NFL season.
We've officially

Speaker 1 hit the halfway mark.

Speaker 4 I just want to, I bring it up because I wanted to give one award out.

Speaker 4 One award, NFL Commissioner of the Year to Roger Goodell

Speaker 4 for saving us by doing nothing with the NFL pass interference replay review. Yes.
Because

Speaker 4 it's an idiot test for coaches. And Pat Shermer and Mike Tomlin have failed repeatedly at it.
But he did something. He tried to fix it.
He put in a new rule.

Speaker 4 Turns out that the rule doesn't do shit except punish coaches that don't learn from it.

Speaker 1 They basically are the like mouse just keep on touching the cheese and getting their hands snapped off? And Freddie Kitchens does it as well.

Speaker 1 If you're a coach, and what was the stats, like five for 58 or something now? If you're a coach and you challenge pass interference, you are a fucking moron.

Speaker 4 All that it does, all the rule is done, is just figured out which coaches were dumb and is given more time for advertisements for the NFL because we get an extra like two minutes a game out of it.

Speaker 1 Well, it did one other thing. It split up the Golicks.
The Golicks are fighting over it. So that's really what it's

Speaker 1 tearing

Speaker 1 families apart. That's how stupid this rule is.
It's that we got to the second half of that Monday night football game. It felt like there was a flag on every single play.
It was so dumb.

Speaker 1 I don't understand what we're doing. Thanks, Saints.
Thanks for ruining it for us.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, you got screwed, but you didn't have to screw all of us.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think people like the city of New Orleans when you're pissed off about something. Right.

Speaker 4 You guys would be happier probably complaining about something than have a rule that didn't fix anything. And you're right.
The Goliks are pissed at each other.

Speaker 4 I don't know which side to take in that situation.

Speaker 4 Junior versus senior.

Speaker 1 We We should just get a jersey.

Speaker 4 Half of it says Golick, and the other half says Golik.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And just like, hey, we root for both teams.

Speaker 4 Both sides here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we like the Golks, so we'll just let them fight it out.

Speaker 4 I was pissed off that Trey Wingo didn't jump at the end and say, well, that escalated quickly.

Speaker 1 That would have been just sad.

Speaker 4 Trey, you had one fucking moment that you could have really nailed it, and you blew it, buddy. Damn.

Speaker 1 Come on, Trey. So we had the Giants and the Cowboys, Daniel Jones, who is,

Speaker 1 he really is Eli Manning. If Eli Manning, like he's just a little bit shittier of a version? Like they updated the model, and he has the same type of fumbles, interceptions.
He can run a little bit.

Speaker 1 He's got a fuckable spiral. Yeah.
But man, does that guy like turning the ball over?

Speaker 4 He loves turning the ball over. He is much, much better at running.
He's way more mobile. Oh, I mean, he's so 20 years younger.

Speaker 4 So when he got into the league, if you took Eli Manning's fight-or-flight response and then just pushed it on its head, that's what you get with Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 Because Eli Manning, when he's in trouble, he'll just hit the ground. He just goes Indian style yes puts it down daniel jones he'll get he'll run he'll run away he'll get

Speaker 4 there but it's funny because the first knock about uh i guess the first real good thing about daniel jones when he got into the league was that he wasn't eli manning and now the big i thought that was the no i thought that was the positive the positive the giants were like this is eli manning again no i'm saying when he got into the game giants fans oh even though that's what they drafted

Speaker 4 sold themselves but they got him into the and when they first put him in they're like wow this guy's not eli manning Manning. And now the knock against him is that he's not Eli Manning.
Right.

Speaker 4 And so it's like his strength and weakness at the same time

Speaker 4 is not being Eli Manning.

Speaker 1 But he is Eli Man Man Manning.

Speaker 4 When he turns the ball over. He's just very confusing to watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 I think Daniel Jones' biggest problem is I don't think he has a vice. I do not think he has a vice.
I think he needs to get a vice.

Speaker 1 I think he needs to maybe be a smoker or, I don't know, like video poker or something.

Speaker 4 A gamer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it just feels like he's a little too plain. His vice is literally just throwing interceptions.

Speaker 1 So you need to shift that vice to something else and make his play on the field a little more productive. Yeah,

Speaker 4 looking at him and knowing about his personality as it stands, I think all he does is just go to football practice, go home, and then just sit on his couch. I don't think he has a TV.

Speaker 4 I think he looks at the wall.

Speaker 4 And he eats his microwave dinner. Yeah.

Speaker 1 His vice is probably like only

Speaker 1 50% off at Jay Crew, Columbus Day weekend.

Speaker 4 That's his vice. That's a pretty good vice.
That's a big advice. I mean, that's a lot of discounts.

Speaker 1 So, before we get to the cat, we should also just mention our weekly. Pat Shermer's a fucking idiot, and I don't know what he's doing out there.

Speaker 1 No one in the NFL likes to punt when down in the fourth quarter more than Pat Shermer. And I get it.
You're on your, I think he was on his own 35 or something or 30, down two scores. It was long.

Speaker 1 It was like a fourth and 10. But still,

Speaker 1 when you give the ball back, you have no chance of winning the game. You have to score.
You have have to start scoring now. So it was, he just, he looks lost.
I feel like this is probably

Speaker 1 he's going to be done after this year. You have to move on.
And yeah, Pat Shermer,

Speaker 1 he shielded himself nicely with Eli Manning for a year and a half there. But now that they have what should be a competent quarterback, it's all kind of coming ahead.

Speaker 4 I think that with Pat Shermer,

Speaker 4 you get exactly what you thought you were going to get with him. And if you look everywhere that he's been as a coach, this has been his record.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But they're like, sooner or later, he's going to turn it around.

Speaker 4 Once we get him in a good system with a good quarterback, once we have a couple drafts built around him by Gettelman, then he'll be good. But it's not going to happen.

Speaker 4 And he's a kind of coach that will shield himself not only with Eli Manning, but also just with the fact that he doesn't take any chances whatsoever, ever.

Speaker 4 And if you're a head coach in the FL who never takes chances, you're probably going to last an extra season over an equally shitty coach who does take chances. Right.
But you're smart on his.

Speaker 1 Well, I actually think it's changing now, too, because people are getting smarter and these nerds are taking over. I count myself as a nerd.

Speaker 1 I understand that when you're down 14 and score a touchdown, you should go for two. That's not a brag.
I just understand the math.

Speaker 1 But I think coaches now are getting criticized more for being conservative. And it's like flipped on its head.
20 years ago, if you went for it on fourth down, you were looked as...

Speaker 1 you know, an idiot. When you go for it on fourth down now, even if you don't get it, like the general public is like, hey, you know what? This is actually the numbers back this up.

Speaker 1 You should probably be going for it more on fourth down.

Speaker 4 The general public is saying that, but I think until we get a nerd in ownership, it'll still be easy. It'll still be easy.
I don't think that Mr. and Mrs.
Mara, the Maras,

Speaker 4 I don't think that they really, they look at punting as a positive. Listen, when you punt the ball, you can't throw an interception.

Speaker 1 Fans run this league. We run the world.
Fans get to decide hirings and firings.

Speaker 4 So the Maras work for us.

Speaker 1 The other story is clearly the cat.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The streaker.
Now,

Speaker 4 I read a little stat about this cat and where it came from, where they think it came from. It's not a stray.
It's one of up to 18 cats that they think lives inside MetLife Stadium.

Speaker 1 I think that still makes it a stray. So that's it.

Speaker 4 Well, it's got a home.

Speaker 4 It's got a roof. And that tells me that the Maras are crazy cat people, officially.

Speaker 1 I don't trust.

Speaker 4 Well, if a black cat are the Jets. I'll say this.
Well, yeah, the Johnsons are probably cat people.

Speaker 4 If you see a cat run across your home field during a game, you just got to you're cursed at that point. You just got to burn it to the ground.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bet against the Giants every single game for the rest of the season. Did you retweet the cat?

Speaker 4 You're done. You retweet.

Speaker 4 That was a cheap move.

Speaker 1 It's not a cheap move. It's a cheap move.
Smart move, very cheap move. I learned

Speaker 1 the luckiest.

Speaker 1 Listen, it would be a cheap move if I don't also retweet every time someone does that to me. Every sweet time you see it.
Why don't you get the laws of the internet? If you didn't retweet my cat.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you're not able to tweet at you those cats.

Speaker 1 No, that's fine.

Speaker 1 People do that all the time, and I retweet it. That's fine.
Keep doing it. I did do it.
But then I can get the.

Speaker 1 There's also one floating around that's like basically makes you immune if you retweet that. The Ariana Grand one.
So I've done that, and I'm immune.

Speaker 4 I was more looking for the new Twitter accounts, the parody accounts. It was like a little throwback to 2012.

Speaker 4 When this cat ran across the field, I knew instantly there would be no less than 6,000 Twitter parody accounts.

Speaker 1 MetLife cat. I was ready to lie to every tweet.

Speaker 4 The black cat at MetLife.

Speaker 1 Giants cat.

Speaker 3 I couldn't help but wonder with all the news last week about Cointe and the dog that took down ISIS.

Speaker 1 He was on all the news news stories he was basically like the main center of you know America's focus if it was a little too convenient that the very next Monday night football game a cat took center stage hank it's a plan if we can get you this cat will you adopt it this specific cat yeah okay okay someone in the giants facility get this cat for us i mean i'm down to go to metlife stadium and actually trap the cat could you imagine if hank had the first well it's probably not the first celebrity cat but one of the first celebrity cats we got it we have to get this cat please someone

Speaker 1 someone listens to this podcast right now or knows someone who listens to this podcast or knows someone who knows someone can get us this cat.

Speaker 4 What are we going to name the cat? We should name it right now because we saw Met Life. Yeah, MetLife the Cat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Met the Cat. Met.

Speaker 4 Booger loved it. Booger was having a great time.
Booger the Cat?

Speaker 1 Boog? Boog.

Speaker 1 I have a new segment. Eli.
Oh, would a pancake to have a cat named Eli

Speaker 1 inside his house? Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Eli the cat. Don't.

Speaker 1 No, it's Eli.

Speaker 1 Eli is the name of the cat. Absolutely not.
No. Yeah.
Well, we're just going to call it Eli. Oh, you know what? Because Pat Shermer's going to get fired.
Let's call him Pat the Cat. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 Really? Nah. Pat the Cat?

Speaker 3 I like non-human names or like something, you know.

Speaker 1 Mixed up. All right, so I have a new segment

Speaker 1 for you guys. It's called

Speaker 1 Jimmy the Dorman. My doorman, Jimmy.
He's a big jokester. I came out to Walk Stella this morning and he said, hey, Dan, did you hear this? Did you hear about this one?

Speaker 1 Some say that that cat spent more time in the end zone than the Jets.

Speaker 4 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 I took a look

Speaker 4 at the cat's route tree, and it spelled out Hulu has live sports.

Speaker 1 If you looked at where it was, there we go.

Speaker 4 I think they should have shot it.

Speaker 1 That would be cool if there was a sniper up on the roof of every...

Speaker 1 Actually, there is. Get rid of streakers.
You get shot. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The ultimate sky judge is the sniper up in the upper deck. That would be sick.
Yeah, no, there were state troopers that were surrounding it. Put the cat down.
You don't want to curse it.

Speaker 4 Shoot it like a horse.

Speaker 1 No, we got to get that cat. Hanks said he's going to die.
You're going to regret this when we get this cat.

Speaker 1 You don't think we have to do that? Plaxico was there last night.

Speaker 4 Plaxico could have taken care of it. Yep.
One shot, one kill.

Speaker 1 I've come around to cats. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 The cat is.

Speaker 3 I've assumed that at some point I'm going to get a cat, so I'm just like, whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Anything else about the Monday Night Football game? I wonder if the Cowboys are back, kind of.

Speaker 4 I want to talk one thing, one extra thing about Catgate. Going back to the curse.
1969, the other most famous black cats. The Cubs met.
Cubs were up by eight games. Yes.

Speaker 4 Mid-August, the cat runs across. Ron Sando says, it looked me in the eye.
It did. And then the Cubs choked.

Speaker 1 But can the Giants choke any more than they already are choking?

Speaker 4 Probably not. Are they uncursable?

Speaker 1 I don't know. All I know is that I had the over in that game, and it was an insane ending for the over.
Yeah, so did I.

Speaker 1 That was a retweet cat. Good luck thing.

Speaker 4 That was a wonderful. Well, I also have the over, and I didn't retweet the game.
Yeah, but I got it. So I got it, too.

Speaker 1 No, but you're lucky. I got to.
I got it, and you co-to-shoot.

Speaker 4 I got my three field goals, my three and a half field goals as well.

Speaker 1 That was before the the cat goes.

Speaker 4 It was cool how when there's a cat delay, anytime there's like a bee delay or a cat delay or a squirrel delay or a fox delay, the entire game shuts down.

Speaker 4 Like the play could be at the opposite one-yard line, and all the players just stand around watching the cat. It's like a free timeout, and it's the funniest thing ever.

Speaker 1 Everyone loves it.

Speaker 4 And Andy, yeah, Andy Reid will bring out three cats underneath his big puffer jacket.

Speaker 4 He'd eat that cat. Free timeouts.
Yeah, he'd eat that cat for sure.

Speaker 1 Imagine if that was the new flag system. Maybe that's what we need to do to make it so that coaches stop doing stupid things and challenging, roughing the pass, or pass interference.

Speaker 1 The challenge flag is actually a cat, so you literally have to throw a cat.

Speaker 4 Oh, I was going to say you have to catch a cat. No, you have to go.

Speaker 1 You get to throw it.

Speaker 1 Okay, but then you have to go into a bag and throw a live animal, and that will make the Pat Shermers, the Freddie Kitchens, the Mike Tomlins of the world think twice about challenging.

Speaker 4 Okay, you throw the cat, but then to get another challenge, you have to catch the cat.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, so you can rethrow it as long as you're.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid just running around trying to catch it. I like that.

Speaker 4 I get the feeling that Andy Reed's legs smell a lot like tuna to begin with. So Kat will probably just be best of friends with him.
Damn.

Speaker 4 Just rubbing himself in between his legs, going back and forth, figure eights around the ankles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be a lot. All right, should we do some hot seat cool throwing before we get to Jon Rosteen? Sure.
All right, Hank, go ahead. Why don't you start, Pickett? No, you start.

Speaker 1 Now you start.

Speaker 1 I have something that has to play off yours. Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Oh, you know what Hank's going to be?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I do too. My hot seat is the Lakers.

Speaker 1 I made that up, by the way.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it's going to be. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 Wow, that's fucked up. My hot seat is the Lakers.

Speaker 1 I'm in Renard of the deal.

Speaker 1 Again? Yeah.

Speaker 3 My hot seat to the Lakers. Anthony Davis was at a school speaking or something, some type of charity event,

Speaker 3 and he called Chicago the mecca.

Speaker 3 And he said they asked about him coming back to Chicago to play. And he said, I am, I mean, I am a free agent next year, but we will see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, door is wide open. Those are just already sick of LeBron.

Speaker 4 Those are just facts that he said. Nothing about that.

Speaker 3 No, the hot seat to the the Lakers, though. If you're a Lakers fan, you're like, fuck, LeBron's a million years old.
He has a gray beard. He's washed up.
And now Anthony Davis is out.

Speaker 1 In the history of the Chicago Bulls, we have to be.

Speaker 3 And we've traded our entire future for him.

Speaker 1 We have never

Speaker 1 had a free agent not sign with us that we were expecting to get.

Speaker 4 That's true. And

Speaker 3 how many of them called it the Mecca, though?

Speaker 1 No, I was being facetious, Hank. There literally has never been a free agent.

Speaker 3 How many of them called it the Mecca?

Speaker 1 That's true. Okay.
You're right. You're right.

Speaker 4 Also, coach Cow coach players that are from Chicago tend to have long careers when they go to to the Bulls.

Speaker 1 Derek Rose is still in the NBA PFT. Yeah, and he's doing well.
Come back player of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's doing just well. He got a standing O last week at the end.

Speaker 1 That shot was eroded.

Speaker 4 He was able to stand?

Speaker 1 Daddy, that's, again, you're making jokes from like 2014. All right, Hank, your cool throne?

Speaker 3 My cool throne is Boomer.

Speaker 3 You guys touched on it a little bit in the fastest two minutes.

Speaker 3 Boomer, just the word boomer has invaded meme and American culture to a point where I'm sick of it. It's kind of jumped the shark a little bit.

Speaker 3 But now it's at one of those things where it's like so mainstream. It's like Harambe after like two months where it was funny in the beginning.

Speaker 3 It was funny in the beginning, but once the mainstream catches on, it's like it's an overkill of boomer.

Speaker 4 All the normies are saying boomer.

Speaker 3 There's just so much boomer going on. Everything's a boomer.
You're a boomer. That's a boomer take.

Speaker 4 Boomer, boomer, boomer. So boomer is just somebody.

Speaker 3 And I don't think it's going away because of this election shit.

Speaker 4 Whatever that comes from. It's somebody that you're disagreeing with.

Speaker 4 Anyone that disagrees with you is a boomer.

Speaker 3 Anyone that you're disagreeing with that is older than you. So you guys are boomers to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we do put out

Speaker 1 the same generation

Speaker 4 major boomer energies sometimes.

Speaker 1 We're millennials. Boomer.

Speaker 4 So you like disagreeing with them? Don't call me a boomer. Disagreeing with Hank about being old is actually a very boomer thing to do.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm a true millennial because

Speaker 4 I'm saying I am a boomer. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Shut up.

Speaker 4 It's like Socrates saying the wisest man is the man who admits he knows nothing. Exactly.
I know I'm a boomer, therefore I am not one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sick of the boomer stuff too. I've been seeing it a lot.
A lot of times.

Speaker 3 And it's one of those, like, it's not, I don't think it's slowing down.

Speaker 1 No, it's not going to slow down for a very long time. Which I always,

Speaker 1 this is anti-boomer of me.

Speaker 1 I always get really woke, and I'm like, maybe the boomers planted this into our culture to like be like, hey, what if we all started, what if we made boomer a slur that millennials caught on to?

Speaker 4 They're dumb. Don't use the hard R, please.

Speaker 1 And then they, and then they basically ruined it themselves.

Speaker 4 Boomer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Mr. Portnoy's a boomer.
Boomer, boomer.

Speaker 4 how excited do you think Chris Berman was when he saw this trending?

Speaker 1 Or anyone who roots for Oklahoma. Yeah.
They were probably very confused.

Speaker 4 Booma soona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. All right, PFT, what do you got?

Speaker 4 My hot seat is playing songs without the artist's permission at the start of your web broadcast, whatever show that might happen to be. Because Seb Gorka got his YouTube channel suspended because

Speaker 4 he wouldn't stop playing Imagine Dragons over and over.

Speaker 4 I think Radioactive was his theme song.

Speaker 1 Who Who?

Speaker 4 Sebastian Gorka, the dragon of Budapest.

Speaker 4 Big head.

Speaker 1 I know who he is, but I am not surprised you don't know who he is. Big head people do not know who he is.

Speaker 1 You have to be deep into.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, he was like a

Speaker 1 white house.

Speaker 1 He was Twitter, all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Got it. He drives a

Speaker 1 behind Art of War on the license. He was a behind-the-scenes guy in getting

Speaker 4 Trump elected. And he was in the White House.

Speaker 1 He was deep into that.

Speaker 4 He was in the White House for a while.

Speaker 1 I would say Sebastian Gorka's Gork's Q rating, if you go on the street, is not very high.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 he was playing Imagine Dragons before his YouTube shows, and they took away his entire YouTube channel because he wouldn't stop.

Speaker 4 They kept warning him, and he kept being like, No, I will resume playing Imagine Dragons.

Speaker 4 So, I don't know. I think if it's Imagine Dragons, Imagine Dragons should just be in the public domain.

Speaker 1 There should not be a piece of the paste.

Speaker 1 They got to protect their art. Like, those guys make beautiful, beautiful art.

Speaker 4 Imagine Dragons, The Beatles,

Speaker 1 Mozart, Happy Birthday, Mozart's paintings, as well as his music.

Speaker 1 Aha, good point, Hank. Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 All those music songs should be fine.

Speaker 4 Those should all be in the public domain.

Speaker 1 The Sunday Night Countdown. Yep.
Yep, agreed. All these things.

Speaker 3 Actually, that's actually, we have that legally.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 And my... Oh, Eric Church.

Speaker 1 That would imply that we have the other things illegally, which is not true.

Speaker 1 We have everything legally.

Speaker 4 My other hot seat is humans because there's a Russian robot company that announced that they can sell replica people robots. I saw that.
So they're creating robots that mimic people.

Speaker 4 They've got thousands of interactive features, thousands of different little tiny robot muscles that can replicate the way that you speak, the way that you walk.

Speaker 4 So they can just program a robot to take anyone's job in America.

Speaker 1 Can we buy them?

Speaker 4 Yeah, one? I was thinking we'd get a Kawhi and a Jason Witten.

Speaker 1 I was thinking we would.

Speaker 4 And we'd have him debate.

Speaker 1 What if we got a robot that just happened to be like a junior in college who switched from quarterback to wide receiver and had him hang out?

Speaker 4 That'd be cool, too.

Speaker 1 That would be pretty cool.

Speaker 4 I mean, if we got a robot Skip and a robot Stephen A. Smith,

Speaker 4 we could actually corner the market on takes.

Speaker 1 Skip would definitely fight with his robot self for hours and hours. He'd be like, Ernestine, you're sleeping in the other bedroom tonight.

Speaker 4 I'm fucking myself tonight. It's just going to be me and robot Skip.
I don't think a robot could ever take our job.

Speaker 4 No, they definitely could. They could trade in one to lose bets and the other to write shitty puns.

Speaker 1 Instantly.

Speaker 4 Instantly. We're actually very susceptible to the robot approach.

Speaker 1 We are like the first ones.

Speaker 4 But I want to say to the robots, I'm on your side. So in the future, just know I'm one of the good ones.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not a boomer. The only thing that would save me from a robot is that I don't think a robot,

Speaker 1 if you train a robot to lose all the bets and they never win, that would be a red flag. But you can also can't train a robot to win all the bets.
Like to just be shitty enough.

Speaker 4 The most fateable robot. It's a pick.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 Quasi-fateable robot.

Speaker 1 I just assume every computer gets every pick right.

Speaker 1 You say this is my brain. If you have an

Speaker 1 a system.

Speaker 4 My cool throne is grit.

Speaker 4 So there was a new study, came out. 11,000 West Point cadets were surveyed over 10 years.
They found that grit was the most important trait for success. So it beat out brains.
It beat out brawn.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm like, okay, yeah, I can get behind this. That makes sense.
Grit's very important in my life. It's very important in a lot of our lives.

Speaker 4 But then I saw who wrote the study, and it was Angela Duckworth, who is the lady that wrote the grit book.

Speaker 1 She's just pushing this. She is

Speaker 4 grit sploitation. She is the big grit industrial complex.
Most of us out there learned to appreciate grit because we had to, because we lacked talent in sports.

Speaker 4 And so we're like, oh, we have to point this. We might lack talent, but we're also dumb enough to not quit.
So therefore, that's a good quality, and I'm going to call it grit.

Speaker 4 And she comes along, and she sees that people are talking about too much. Now she's trying to make money off it.
Yeah. She's trying to...
monetize grit. Not a fake.
It's very sad.

Speaker 4 But grit's also on the cool throne because

Speaker 4 the the Loman Trophy Award is coming back. Yes.
So we're going to put out the watch list on Friday. Yes.
The fullbacks and Tom Fernelli have been contacted. Hank.
Hen Hank have been contacted.

Speaker 4 We are accumulating the first list. Lorenzo Neal sent me his list within about 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 Of course he did. He's been waiting since he left his studio.

Speaker 4 He has been waiting for this opportunity. So we're going to put out the watch list

Speaker 4 on Friday, and then we're going to do the award itself. I think like maybe the first or second week of December.

Speaker 1 We should know. We should do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should cuck the Heisman, so whatever the week leading up to it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Maybe Heisman Eve?

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, that's Friday.
That's a Friday. We're not going to work on a Friday night.
No.

Speaker 4 But we could tape it on a Friday.

Speaker 1 On a Thursday. Yeah, we'll do that.

Speaker 4 And put it out on the Friday.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
My hot seat is myself, because, Hank, I would like to retract something. I want to apologize.

Speaker 1 The sun going down that early does suck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't realize.
Oh, you need the sun?

Speaker 4 Oh, you need the sun?

Speaker 1 No, you don't need the sun.

Speaker 4 You need to feel like a specialist.

Speaker 1 Cool down, PFT. Listen, I'm talking about.
I'm talking to Hank here.

Speaker 1 You should learn something from me and be able to say sorry once in a while.

Speaker 4 I was on

Speaker 1 Hank for the last time.

Speaker 1 I actually admit my mistakes. So, Hank, I'm sorry.
You were right. It did suck last night when it was like 5.15 and it got dark out.
Apologies accepted. Thank you.

Speaker 1 All right, then my other hot seat is man boobs because President Trump

Speaker 1 got a handful of Kurt Suzuki's and that was my worst nightmare come to life.

Speaker 4 To have somebody get behind you and just cup those pepperonis?

Speaker 1 Listen, there's not enough.

Speaker 1 Listen, you know, everyone knows you're not allowed to, you know, touch a woman without consent, but not a lot of people know you are not allowed to touch a man's breast without consent either because it's very sensitive.

Speaker 4 Unless you're like real good bros with them.

Speaker 1 No, even then.

Speaker 1 No, even then, we have a guy here, Dana, who sometimes will flick my nipple, and I want to fucking, I actually want to murder him when he does it. The nips are popping right now.
I know they are

Speaker 1 big time popping. Barcelgold.com slash PMT.
Check out the nips. Barcelgold.com slash PMT.

Speaker 4 That's why I have four of them. It's impossible to grab all at the same time.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I saw that and I got very triggered by just the thought of, I know a lot of people were getting triggered for political reasons.

Speaker 1 I got triggered by the fact that it needs to be said more often that if a man has larger than average breasts, that doesn't mean you can cup them.

Speaker 4 No means no.

Speaker 1 It is my nightmare. It is my nightmare.
I'm sorry. My cool throne is the Chargers, because they're not moving.

Speaker 1 The Chargers tweeted out a clip of Leo DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall Street saying, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 The Chargers

Speaker 1 being a team that just relocated like three years ago.

Speaker 4 And also the end of the Wolf of Wall Street, we'll recall. Leonardo DiCaprio's character was still in charge of his company and still rich and famous.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he didn't lie.
Absolutely. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 the awareness on this tweet.

Speaker 3 And they took the swear away, which is like the best part of it.

Speaker 1 That is the best part of it. And the awareness on this tweet is an all-time low.
You literally relocated three years ago. Yeah.
And you're talking about we're not leaving. They're loyal, okay?

Speaker 1 They're loyal. L.A.
probably is like, we don't even know you're here yet.

Speaker 4 That was a bad move on their part because L.A. didn't know.
So they're like sticking their hand up being like, hey, we're here. And L.A.'s like, fuck.
No, dude.

Speaker 1 Shit. No, please.
Get out of here.

Speaker 1 Please go.

Speaker 4 That would have been great to have Phillip Rivers commuting every day to London. Back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker 1 His nine kids in London.

Speaker 4 That would be

Speaker 4 a nice sight to see. But there are great nannies over there.
That's true. Let's remember.

Speaker 1 Mary Poppins.

Speaker 4 Mary Poppins is still there.

Speaker 4 I think, is it okay for the league to just dictate that a team leaves? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Can the NFL just say, if they wanted to, yeah, Chargers, you're moving. If they got the owners to vote? Yeah, I think so.
So hypothetically, this could be my out as a Redskins fan.

Speaker 1 Have everyone vote to move them to Dan Snyder.

Speaker 4 Tell them in London, the Redskins is actually

Speaker 4 because all of our princes have hemophilia, so the blood skins.

Speaker 1 The purple skins.

Speaker 4 Purple skins. The purple skins.
The London Purple Skins. That would be good.
Dan Snyder. Good team to be good.
Go study abroad.

Speaker 1 Get there. All right.
My other cool throne is ones versus twos. So we have Michigan State, Kentucky tonight.

Speaker 1 You probably watched that. Michigan State one.

Speaker 1 You have LSU, Bama on Saturday, ones and twos.

Speaker 1 And then the Jets and the Giants are playing on Sunday. So one and two in New York, City.

Speaker 4 City.

Speaker 1 In New Jersey. New Jersey.
In New Jersey, ones and twos.

Speaker 1 Or you could reverse it and say in the state of New York, they're the one and two for worst.

Speaker 4 They just need to have it. It should just be a cat game.
Yeah. Just release all the cats.

Speaker 1 It's like a mascot game for EA Sports. Yeah.
Back in the day. We should just have 11 on 11 cats.

Speaker 4 Well, 10 on 11 because Eli, the cat, is going to be with heads by that time.

Speaker 1 I cannot wait to get that cat.

Speaker 4 We're going to get you that cat.

Speaker 1 We're going to get you this cat.

Speaker 4 I kind of want to go out to the stadium and try to catch it myself.

Speaker 1 I'm just waiting for the tweet tomorrow morning at like 9.45. Someone's going to tweet us, like some maintenance guy from MetLife and be like, got the cat.
Where should I drop it off?

Speaker 4 What do you think, Hank?

Speaker 3 I don't think it's going to happen, but I'm excited for it if it does.

Speaker 4 I'll say this. It was a very good-looking cat.

Speaker 1 And it's perfect because Duke is playing tonight. You have your Duke sweatshirt on, Duke's year, your fucking Dukey Duke Duke.
Fuck Duke. Rude.

Speaker 1 Fuck Duke. And yeah, you're going to get a cat.
Okay, here we go. John Ross Dean, we're going to talk a little college basketball.
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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, our good friend John Rostein. He is CBS Insider for College Basketball.
College hoops today for Compass Media.

Speaker 1 And you can find him on Instagram at johnrostein, j-o-n.rostein.

Speaker 2 And here we go. Here we go.
Well played. And here we go.

Speaker 1 Well played a quote.

Speaker 4 What do we say about November? Is there a catchphrase for November? Yeah, there is.

Speaker 2 Well, it's kind of a catchphrase that gets shifted month to month. When we have our first big-time down-to-the-wire finish, you will probably see a subsequent tweet saying this is only November.

Speaker 4 It's only November. Only November.
It's only November.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So before we get into the college basketball season and a preview, let's do a recap of the offseason.
Did you reconnect with people in your life? You got engaged. Got engaged.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. Thank you.

Speaker 1 I mean, I made

Speaker 2 sure, though, that right after I proposed, like nine minutes later, that the date of the wedding wouldn't be around anything that could conflict with college.

Speaker 2 We're all friends here, so I wanted to get that out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, when is that? When is the time of year that doesn't have in May? Because I know we sleep in May.

Speaker 2 Well, we say we sleep in May, but you still got transfer stuff, the NBA draft stuff you have to monitor. You're still like prepping for the draft.

Speaker 2 August is obviously probably the quietest month, but also early July. It's going to be a holiday week and it's going to be July, Friday, July 3rd.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to make everyone give up their July 4th weekend. That's right.
How dare you? That's right.

Speaker 2 Well, I've heard that holiday weekend weddings are the best type of weddings.

Speaker 1 You have not heard that from human beings. Oh, yeah, several.
Well, just two, but I figured that was more than one. No,

Speaker 1 I think the holiday weekend wedding, you can like...

Speaker 1 You can spin it however you want. It's your frame of mind.

Speaker 2 It's your frame of mind.

Speaker 1 Because some people get upset, but where is it going to be? New York? It's going to be in New York. Okay, that's not bad.

Speaker 2 It's going to be in New York. We've planned like a series of events that are gonna feature, you know, our favorite places.

Speaker 2 My fiancé, Alana, loves Bar Coastal's wings, carry style, you know, just the red sauce that's off the menu. If you guys have

Speaker 4 said, makes Bar Coastal, Kerry Style. I'm a big wing guy.

Speaker 1 I haven't heard of that.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. If you guys like wings and you haven't been to Bar Coastal on 79th and 1st, then you're not living.
Like right after this year, so you got to get to the nearest airplane and go east.

Speaker 2 Carry style, off the menu.

Speaker 2 The great John Shamby, one of the great human beings on the planet who is an outstanding talent for ESPN.

Speaker 2 One of my close friends once told me when I was going to our coastal, he's like, JR, you got to go carry style. I've never went back.

Speaker 1 Carry style. And I would prefer bone stone.
I would prefer boneless.

Speaker 2 Boneless versus on the bone.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you feel about that. Yeah,

Speaker 2 Big Cat looks like he's doing vegan right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, basically Cam Newton typing in hieroglyphics, not eating meat. Okay, so don't take offense to what I'm about to say, but I have to say it.

Speaker 1 You strike me as a guy at your wedding, you're going to have multiple cutouts of coaches being like, hey, Mike, you know, Coach K came.

Speaker 1 You take a picture with Coach K.

Speaker 2 County. If I had any say over anything other than the food or the band,

Speaker 2 that would be a major shock. I put in my two cents about the food.
I put in my two cents. I put some two cents about the band.
Just the type of songs we want to hear. That's it.

Speaker 1 Tell me, what are the type of songs you like to hear? You know, probably a little bit more old-school hip-hop than you would think.

Speaker 2 You know, it makes a little bit of, no, you know, stuff that you can move around to a little bit.

Speaker 1 But like, it's funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 But it's funny, you know, because you think about all this stuff and you're doing the planning before the season starts.

Speaker 2 But since the preseason, you just start waking up and asking yourself the question: can the American Conference get four bids in the NCAA tournament?

Speaker 1 Right, we're all talking about it. Everyone's asking that.

Speaker 4 What's the over-under at how many college coaches are going to attend the wedding?

Speaker 2 I don't think a lot of people will attend because it's July, it's the recruiting period, so on and so forth. But, you know, there'll be invites.
Maybe we'll do a pregame show here on part of my show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be great. We're in for it.

Speaker 4 I'm kind of curious because you were a singularly focused individual on college basketball. It's what you've always wanted to do.
It's what you eat, you sleep, you breathe.

Speaker 4 Going into a partnership like a wedding, like a marriage, have you had a conversation with your fiancé about, here's what you can expect from me.

Speaker 4 I will be attentive, I will be attentive through the months of July and August, and then the rest of the year I'm focused on college basketball.

Speaker 2 It was one of the first conversations that we had.

Speaker 2 You know, when I met my fiancé, Alana, she was living on the Upper West Side, so we always used to go when I wasn't working to Dakota Bar to hang out.

Speaker 2 Like, if I wanted to watch a game and she wanted to hang out because I I knew there were TVs there, so I knew like Friday night, Big Ten, I could watch Iowa, Illinois, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 So I just kind of said, like, right away, just so you know, from the start of November until the end of the Final Four, I'm going to be working every day. My phone's always going to be out.

Speaker 2 I'm not ignoring you. I'm going to need TVs on.

Speaker 2 If you can obviously deal with that, then I'll be like a normal civilian starting like that, probably that Tuesday or maybe a couple of days after, considering some news.

Speaker 2 And she's like, I can deal with that as long as when the season's over. She's very close to her college friends that went to USC with her.
You have to go with me for a week to Southern California.

Speaker 1 You can go see Mick Cronin. That's right.
You guys are boys with him. He did a podcast in the van.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 More consistent than a few good men on a rainy Sunday.

Speaker 1 There it is. That's what we always say about him.

Speaker 1 Last thing before we get to the preview. I heard you on CBS Sports, the radio, when I was driving in on a Sunday.
You were doing the halftime show for the NFL, updating the stats.

Speaker 1 You were a professional. You are a professional, but it sounded like you just didn't have the love love in it.

Speaker 1 Does it hurt you when you have to read NFL stat sheets being like, this isn't college basketball?

Speaker 2 Look, I think it's important. And, you know, I started in this business, like, the backbone of the foundation was talk radio.
So I had to, you know, talk about other sports.

Speaker 2 So as a broadcaster, you kind of refine those skills. But you know where my bread is butter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could tell. It just didn't sound the same.
It sounded like you were, you know. Not going through the motions, but just the love wasn't in your voice.

Speaker 4 Like when Adam Schefter goes to the NBA side before you go.

Speaker 1 You were doing a great job. You didn't make any mistakes, but I could just tell if you know John Ross and you knew that he was probably thinking about can the AAC get four bids this year.

Speaker 2 No question, but you still have to be a professional when you know the microphone is on and you're on assignment. No doubt about that.
But I do want to thank also the people at Compass Media for

Speaker 2 doing all that they've done with my podcast over the past couple years. We're up, you know, we're over 200 episodes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're a professional. All right, so let's do it.
Let's dive in. It is November.

Speaker 1 We have the, if you're listening to this right now, it's right, we're going to air this on Wednesday, which is right after the big games at Madison Square Garden. So let's start with those teams.

Speaker 1 This is now going to be a decade since Duke has won an ACC title outright. Is Coach K coaching for his job?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a decade.

Speaker 4 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 That's a decade since they have won an ACC title shared or outright.

Speaker 2 But they did win a national championship.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. It's not the same, though.

Speaker 1 ACC cacher. Hold on a second.

Speaker 4 If you're in North Carolina, you need to win the ACC.

Speaker 1 Hold on a second.

Speaker 2 Would you, as a Wisconsin fan, would you trade any Big Ten championships you have to do?

Speaker 1 All of them. It's all about winning the conference.

Speaker 1 Everyone always says that. Win your conference.
Keep talking to yourself. First goal.
Keep talking to yourself. You want to win our conference.
They never hit their first goal.

Speaker 1 They literally have never hit their first goal. They're not saying this because your heart is still broken from what happened in 2015.

Speaker 4 That's also true.

Speaker 4 He's not telling a lie about that.

Speaker 1 The heart was broken. But at the start of the season,

Speaker 4 it always says we want to win our conference.

Speaker 4 Maybe first it says we want to win at home. We want to defend defend our home

Speaker 4 throughout the season. Great.
We don't want to lose two games in a row in conference. Fine.
Number three, we want to win our conference.

Speaker 1 They just skip that step. I think actually anything they've won past that step should be irrelevant.

Speaker 2 That is fine. That's your opinion.
It doesn't matter, though, because Duke won a national championship in 2010.

Speaker 1 They won a national championship in 2015.

Speaker 2 I do want to point this out, though. The Duke team that we saw last year really redefine positionless basketball.

Speaker 2 You're going to see a much more conventional Duke team this season with, you know.

Speaker 1 More white guys.

Speaker 2 You can just get a lot of money. Some of those, but they're going to be more conventional, I think, just in terms of not necessarily that, but players that play a certain position instead of

Speaker 2 Barrett, Zion, Reddish thing.

Speaker 4 You get AOC. You get Alex O'Connell playing up there.

Speaker 1 Who is their big guy? Like, who's the guy we're going to be playing with?

Speaker 2 Vernon Carey, who's a talented freshman who will be their five-man. And at the four, you'll have a combination of Matthew Hurt, a pick-and-pop four, with Javin Delaurier.

Speaker 3 That's the guy that people are going to hate.

Speaker 1 Javin Delaurier? Matthew Hurt. Oh, Matthew Hurt.

Speaker 2 Matthew Hurt. Then on on the perimeter, they've got a number of players.
Wendell Moore and Cassia Stanley, two freshmen, and, of course, Trey Jones.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm looking up Matthew Hurt right now.

Speaker 4 Let's see how punchable his face is. That's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 I have a feeling, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I'm going to want to punch that guy. Holy

Speaker 1 shit. Yo, fuck that guy.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Snud.

Speaker 1 Absolute stud.

Speaker 4 He looks like a bass player in a late 90s pup punk.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Look at.
He looks like Manchester United. I'm not going to be mean.
But he's a stud. But I hate this kid.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He's good to have the hate.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it looks like he wears sweaters and beanies in 75-degree weather.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 Part of me thinks, like, hey, these are college kids.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't hate them because, you know, they're amateurs, all that. Probably listening to the show.
Matthew Hurt, though. No, Matthew Hurt knew exactly what he was getting when he went to Duke.

Speaker 1 He knew he was going to be the hated Duke guy. Like,

Speaker 1 that is a contract that he signed, and I literally mean signed because Coach K pays his players. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Are you still on the thing that he paid the rest in 2015?

Speaker 1 Do you still believe it? Of course he did, John.

Speaker 1 But now you're a smart guy.

Speaker 4 Do you think some coaches out there are using like Cash App Venmo?

Speaker 2 No, I don't think it's that blatant. Okay.
I don't think it's that blatant.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's more subtle.

Speaker 1 It's the old brown vanilla envelope. What was the thing in blue chips?

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 somebody's going to buy you a tractor.

Speaker 2 Right. And then the guy showed up with the USA Day bag as you, Rick Rowe? And he goes, yeah.
And he goes, so on and so forth.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, it was a double fact.

Speaker 2 There was a tractor in a later scene, I believe.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've had this take kind of bubbling for the last couple of years. I got laughed at the first time I brought it up, if you can believe that on this podcast, laughed at.

Speaker 4 I think that Coach K is not as good a head coach as Coach Williams is.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 4 I think if you look at what Coach Killiam.

Speaker 3 That's a nice way of laughing in your face.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, because if you look at what he's done, while Coach K's tenure at Duke, while Roy Williams has been at UNC, by any measurement, you can say that Roy Williams has been more successful.

Speaker 2 You want to hear something amazing, though? And this is something. I remember I was doing an interview with Coach Knight, maybe it was maybe eight years ago, and he brought this up.

Speaker 2 You know, we value so much when we're talking sports or people in our society, obviously winning national championships, getting the Final Fours, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 In a one-game tournament like the NCAA tournament, you know, this, the level of separation is so small. It's not a seven-game series.

Speaker 2 Since 1984, and I need to double-check this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Since 84, okay,

Speaker 2 Duke has missed the NCAA tournament one time when Coach K was hurt that year in previous years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the back history curve. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 But what I'm saying is, and you know, we'll double check that. I believe 84 is the year.
Like, that's amazing that every year they've been in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 That's amazing, just the fact that they've gotten to the tournament.

Speaker 2 Like, it's obviously amazing that they've won five national championships and are going for a six this year, but that's just an unbelievable accomplishment.

Speaker 1 How many does Roy have?

Speaker 2 Three.

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 2 Five, six. He has three.
Now, if you think about it, too, there's a lot. When you're coached this long and you're this successful, there's always what-ifs when it comes to Roy Williams.

Speaker 2 What if Wayne Simeon didn't get hurt in 2003 when they played Syracuse? Now, Jeff Graves, the backup for who stepped in in the starting lineup, had a great game against Syracuse.

Speaker 2 That should also be pointed out. But if that Wayne Simeon injury doesn't happen, you know, something could be different.

Speaker 1 What are you looking up right now?

Speaker 2 Just want to make sure that 84 was the first year.

Speaker 1 There you go. That coach.
Fact-checking himself, folks.

Speaker 2 That's a move we don't have. Yeah, 84.

Speaker 2 One miss since 84.

Speaker 1 All right, so

Speaker 1 you said interesting to PFT's first hot take. Let's do his second one, that Tom Izzo is overrated.

Speaker 2 Tom Izzo is overrated. That's PFT's other.
Okay, why do you think he's overrated?

Speaker 4 He just hasn't won the big one in a while.

Speaker 4 He's coasting. He's coasting.

Speaker 1 There's no way to say that without coming across the dude, he just hasn't won it overrated.

Speaker 2 Saying Tom Izzo is overrated is like saying that the Godfather Epic is overrated.

Speaker 4 I mean, Godfather 3 is kind of trash.

Speaker 1 And that's where he's at. It's PFT.

Speaker 2 The Godfather Epic is not including The Godfather 3. It's a chronological breakdown of the Godfathers 1 and 2 chronologically because we have obviously a prequel kind of in the start of Godfather 2.

Speaker 2 This is the thing, though, I want to point out about Tom Mizzo.

Speaker 2 We have seen injuries devastate certain programs. A lot of people were worried in 14-15 who were Wisconsin alums when Trayvon Jackson went down that Wisconsin wasn't going to be the same team.

Speaker 2 Think about this for a second. In 2010, Kalen Lucas went down with injury.
Michigan State still went to a Final Four. They lost to Butler in the national semifinals.

Speaker 2 Last year, Josh Lankford, the starting shooting guard from Michigan State, goes down with injury. His backup, Kyle Arnes, goes down with injury, and Michigan State still goes to a final four.

Speaker 1 Can't be overrated if that's happening.

Speaker 4 He's mean to his players.

Speaker 2 That whole Aaron Henry thing, that was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 But they're ranked number one. Do you think that they're going to live up to that ranking? Because I always feel like

Speaker 1 this is a different year where we don't have one of those Kentucky or Dukes or Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 No, but there's no Decker-Kaminski team.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm saying, yeah, but what I really mean is like, there's no, it feels like in the past few years, it's been either Kentucky, Duke, maybe even Kansas throw in there, or UNC where it's like, oh, they got four of the top, you know, 10 recruits.

Speaker 1 They're not going to lose.

Speaker 2 Well, let's put it this way for a second. You look at, obviously, college basketball across the board, and you look at the last couple of national champions.

Speaker 2 The one thing we've always looked at that's been synonymous with all these champions is they've each had at least one, maybe two longtime pros.

Speaker 2 Michigan State's the consensus number one team in the country. You don't see a longtime pro in their starting lineup.
I mean, the Duke team in 2015, loaded with pros.

Speaker 2 2016, Villanova, loaded with pros. Carolina in 17, Joel Berry, Justin Jackson.
18 Villanova, loaded with pros. This past year, Virginia, Ty Jerome, Kyle Guy.

Speaker 2 You don't see that on Michigan State, and they're number one. I think we are going to have breakthroughs this season.
I think we are going to have an unbelievable balance across the board.

Speaker 2 I mean, think about this for a second. Last year, okay, we had an unbelievable season in the ACC and the SEC.

Speaker 2 13 of the ACC's top 20 scores from last year are gone, and 15 of the SEC's top 20 scores are gone. There has been a passage in college basketball.
Who is next in line?

Speaker 2 We'll have to tune in day in, day out.

Speaker 1 Damn. Damn.
I like that.

Speaker 4 Cassius Winston coming back. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 4 what's his future look like as a pro? Because a lot of people are saying, like, he's not going to cut it. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 Well, let's enjoy Cassius Winston as a senior point guard first. Gotcha.

Speaker 2 You know, we look at, and it's a good point, PFT, you look at obviously people who are dynamic at the lead guard spot in college basketball as being somebody that we gravitate to because that's the position in the sport that you have to have.

Speaker 2 The guy who might have the most dynamic guard in college basketball is your buddy Tom Creen. Anthony Edwards could be the number one pick in the 2020 NBA draft.

Speaker 2 I had Tom Creen on my podcast last month, and I asked him, how does he compare to two other guys that you've coached, Wade and Oladipo?

Speaker 2 And he told me that from a physical perspective, he's never been around any player like Anthony Edwards. And Tom Creen, as you guys know, as detail-oriented, as focused as anybody.

Speaker 2 You know, my line for him is he's more focused than Tommy Lee Jones and the fugitive.

Speaker 1 We know how focused Tommy Lee Jones is. We all know that.
I mean, we all know that. Everyone who's listening to this knows that.
Right.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, so he has always excelled at player development, but that to me makes Georgia a team now that if they're playing and saying, well, they could have number one pick on their team.

Speaker 2 The underrated game of Thanksgiving week, which is the great week where we're

Speaker 2 feast week, where we have games on top of games. Georgia against Dayton.
Maui. First-round Maui.

Speaker 2 Anthony Edwards of Georgia against another guy who could blow up and rise on draft boards this year, Obi Toppin of Dayton.

Speaker 1 Okay, and

Speaker 1 we have Tom Creen going back to Hawaii, so we get to see him in the

Speaker 1 Hawaiian shirt, which is always great.

Speaker 4 He blends in perfectly with the Hawaiian shirt. He looks like he's ready to go to Jimmy Buffett concert.

Speaker 4 It's so great looking. His face gets a little bit redder even in the lay.
Just spectacular sight.

Speaker 1 What's up? Tell us what's up with Cal this year in Kentucky. I feel like there's a simmering, like, hey, it's been a couple years since Kentucky's really been one of those, you know,

Speaker 1 they're they're always in the mix.

Speaker 2 Yeah, always in the mix.

Speaker 1 But it has felt a little different the last few years with Kentucky.

Speaker 1 What's this team going to look like?

Speaker 2 Dynamic guard play, Ashton Hagens, obviously, pound for pound.

Speaker 1 How many names do you know?

Speaker 2 It's my job, man.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but like, how many names do you know?

Speaker 2 I've never, I've never, I've never counted, but I just know. I wake up every day and thinking it's my responsibility for one of the great hosts at CBS Sports, Adam Zucker, Brent Stover, Dana Jacobs.

Speaker 2 And if they team me up, I got to be ready.

Speaker 1 Could you name the starting five for every single team in college basketball?

Speaker 2 I don't know about every single team in college basketball, but I think power conference-wise, yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, I had a list, actually, because I am always blown away by your depth of knowledge. I just had some teams that I was going to throw it.
Can you name two players from FIU?

Speaker 2 FIU. They had some departures, so not yet.

Speaker 1 Washington. Yeah, of course.
Go.

Speaker 2 Quaday Green. Yep.
Jamal Bay.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 Nas Carter.

Speaker 1 You could be making all of these up.

Speaker 2 Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Stewart, Sam Timmons,

Speaker 2 Elijah Hardy.

Speaker 1 It's bullshit that Washington. No, Nate Roberts.

Speaker 2 Nate Roberts.

Speaker 1 Why is it bullshit? They're playing Sydney. You can't switch it up like that.
They're playing Syracuse's Zone, and now they slow it down.

Speaker 2 Well, he did obviously work for

Speaker 1 Mike Hopkins. Right.

Speaker 1 UVM.

Speaker 2 Oh, absolutely. Steph Smith, Ernie Duncan, Daniel Giddens, Anthony Lamb, Duncan Demuth.

Speaker 1 What about their radio host, Play-by-Play? Tom?

Speaker 1 No, but Tom Brennan, I know.

Speaker 4 their host is. You don't know their radio?

Speaker 1 Their radio play-by-play guy? Who's their radio play-by-play? Jake Marsh. You don't know? No.
Oh. He's an up-and-comer.

Speaker 1 Rising guy in the biz. His signature call.
Look out for him. Who's looking up right now? That's what he says.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to see who's eligible, FIU. I wanted to make sure.
Before I say anything on the air. Oh, my God.
St. John's Transfer CD Kata is there.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. What about

Speaker 1 Data?

Speaker 2 Ui Puy? Yeah. Is that even a real team?

Speaker 4 Indiana University of Purdue, University of New York. Uh-I-EP-UI.

Speaker 2 Ever since Ron Hunter left, I've kind kind of went off the grid.

Speaker 1 Of course. He's a classic.

Speaker 1 You should check out Jake Marsh's reel, though. We'll send it to you.
He's our intern over the summer. He was the voice radio of Vermont Catamount Basketball Radio.

Speaker 4 I want to get back real quick. You said that you were talking about Kentucky.
I think you kind of glossed over the fact they lost Brad Calapari.

Speaker 1 Are they going to be able to recover the swag on the side of the world? Is he at Detroit?

Speaker 2 Well, he's at Detroit playing for Mike Davis.

Speaker 2 You know, one thing I think you need to look at with Kentucky in terms of the questions I have is interior scoring. They could bully people inside last year with Travis, with P.J.
Washington.

Speaker 2 Now you're in a scenario where you have a team that looks like it's going to be paced by its backcourt. Every well-embedded mole I talked to in Lexington this summer raved about Emmanuel quickly.

Speaker 2 We talked about Ashton Hagens defensively. You look at, obviously, Tyrese Maxie.
You're looking at a player that has the ability as a freshman to be first-team all-SEC player.

Speaker 2 So it'll be interesting to to see what transpires with Kentucky. But I don't know if they're head and shoulders above the SEC.

Speaker 1 Hank or Liam, after this interview, can we do a super cut of just all the names that John says and just like a ding and we'll get all the names.

Speaker 1 All right, I have, I wanted to go through some Rostinisms, and you can just

Speaker 2 be some new ones this season. Oh, I was kind of hoping you guys could help maybe workshops maybe do it.
Maybe like come up with one. Now, this is one thing I wanted to talk to you about.

Speaker 1 People have told me,

Speaker 2 okay, that they think that less words is better just because it's a little trickier. So if you're going to come up with one.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to sign your voice.

Speaker 2 No, mate, no,

Speaker 1 for the slogans. Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
I thought they were just saying, like, hey, John, stop talking. No.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so less words, the better. For the slogans.
For the slogans. And

Speaker 1 where do you want to go with it? Like, where do you have thoughts?

Speaker 2 I mean, you guys decide, like, somebody you want to make a slogan for, for somebody who's not obviously.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't mind if you did. So you have the VCU.
What was the VCU you want to do?

Speaker 2 More life alternate antended Trip to Europe. Right.

Speaker 1 What about, I think, Hell in the Cell, something like a Hell in the Cell. So some kind of, when you go to this place, it's like Hell in the Cell.
It's like

Speaker 1 facing Undertaker in Hell in the Cell.

Speaker 2 Like Mankind King of the Ring. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 Jim Ross on the call. That was when we brought the thumbtacks, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. And Mankind basically died.
So you should come up with something like that. Like going, going to, I don't know, Bloomington in March is like, is facing Undertaker in Hell in the Cell.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Bloomington would be the best.

Speaker 4 how about something for UCLA, for Mick Cronin?

Speaker 2 We already have more consistent with a few good names in the race.

Speaker 1 What about Vermont?

Speaker 2 Damone Kerrigan, too, is the guy in the middle of the moment. Yeah, you want to do Vermont?

Speaker 1 How about Vermont? How about Vermont?

Speaker 4 I mean, Hell in a Cell is just a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hell in the Cell is just a good one for anyone.

Speaker 1 You can put that anywhere.

Speaker 2 Well, I think if you would have to make that synonymous with a brand of basketball, not like a coach. It's not like Greg Gardston Assassin.

Speaker 1 So, who's Hell in the Cell?

Speaker 2 I mean, that's why I came to you guys.

Speaker 4 What about Georgia? Do you have anything for Georgia?

Speaker 2 Well, Tom Green, when I tweet, you know, more focus on Tom Lee Jones and the Futive.

Speaker 1 What about my guy, Musbuss, in Arkansas?

Speaker 2 It's a good one.

Speaker 1 I love him. So let's get something for him.
Have you seen his recruiting tactic? It's been great where he takes the iconic pictures with potential recruits. Have you seen this? Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 Nobody, I don't think, has done a better job embracing social media than Eric Musselman, you know, at Nevada and now at Arkansas.

Speaker 2 And I actually think they're a dangerous team in terms of their perimeter in the SEC, but I'm worried they don't think I can get a rebound.

Speaker 1 Okay, well,

Speaker 1 let's think of something for them. They play

Speaker 1 fast pace. They're running up and down.
They're shooting threes. Fuck.

Speaker 4 Speed. Like speed.

Speaker 1 Oh, speed. Keanu.
This bus.

Speaker 1 Eric Musselman, the Keanu Reeves of the SEC.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the bus doesn't go below 60 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this must bus

Speaker 1 goes faster than Keanu Reeves in the thriller speed.

Speaker 1 I'll get back to you on that. Whatever.
Workshop though. Yeah, I like that.
Make sure you put the date so we know when speed came out. Okay.

Speaker 1 1993, Danny. So we know how much you've dated your reference.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So I have some rosting

Speaker 1 isms that I want to throw out there. You assigned the team this year.
Okay. Appointment television.

Speaker 1 To be determined. Who's going to be appointment television? You got to tell me.
You got to have a team.

Speaker 2 It could be Florida with Mike White. Okay.
It could be Florida.

Speaker 1 They have Black Shear, right?

Speaker 2 They have Carrie Black Shear. Yes.

Speaker 1 When you just did the whole ACC, SEC losing top scorers, you didn't mention that one went from the ACC to the SEC. Okay, that's why I have you.
Big assist to you, Stockton.

Speaker 1 What about Palpable Buzz?

Speaker 2 Palpable Buzz Williams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but who's got the... So you think Texas A ⁇ M's got the Buzz?

Speaker 2 Well, no, but he automatically, after every win, gets the tweet because his name is Buzz. So it's Palpable Buzz.

Speaker 1 Let's see what you did there.

Speaker 4 Do you think that was a good move for him?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's tailor-made for him. It's tailor-made for him.
I mean, you think about it. He was at Marquette, a basketball-centric school, did a great job.

Speaker 2 Went to Virginia Tech, a school that was known more for its football, did a great job. Now he has a school that's had success in both, and it's right in his recruiting breadbasket.

Speaker 4 Who's the silent assassin this year? Greg Gard.

Speaker 1 Still? Still.

Speaker 4 How are the batteries going to be for real?

Speaker 2 Look, this is. I'm worried.
Returning perimeter is back. That's a good thing.
I talked to Greg Gard over the summer at an AAU tournament.

Speaker 2 He told me he felt like Reavers could take that Wisconsin-type leap. Like we've seen other people do in the past.
Berger and Kaminski, the list goes on and on.

Speaker 2 And they're very high on Micah Potter to make a big impact up front. But anytime, Big Cat, you look at a team that has returning guards in college basketball, and they've got Pritzel, Trice,

Speaker 2 Davison. They have guys, Kobe King has been through the gamut.
So, you know, you have obvious hope, and you have a system, too, at Wisconsin, where you don't turn it over and you don't foul.

Speaker 1 So, you think they'll make the tournament?

Speaker 2 I think Wisconsin will be an NCAA tournament.

Speaker 1 Give me the top five of the Big Ten this year.

Speaker 2 I think, honestly, it's Michigan State, Maryland, and everybody else.

Speaker 2 And of all the players from a physical perspective that has made the biggest jump that I've seen that looks like a different player, looks like a pro, Aaron Wiggins at Maryland.

Speaker 2 Aaron Wiggins to me physically looks like Allen Houston right now.

Speaker 1 Ooh, yeah, that's an opportunity. And I will say this.
Glenn Houston hasn't played me in like 20 years.

Speaker 1 I'll just say from a physical perspective.

Speaker 4 Don't forget the great Knicks. There have been like three great Knicks for the last 25 years.

Speaker 1 Well, but here's the interesting thing.

Speaker 2 If you watch, like I watch Michigan State and Maryland practice, from a physical perspective, Maryland, okay, is more physically imposing. Like Jalen Smith looks more like a pro.

Speaker 2 Aaron Wiggins looks more like a pro than anybody on Michigan State's roster.

Speaker 2 I think you have Michigan State and Maryland at the top of the Big Ten but then like I said Matt Payner is the new Bo Ryan so regardless of who he has he's going to win 20 to 25 games every year so it's death taxes Matt Payner.

Speaker 4 Yup can you tell our friend Scott Van Pelt that this is Maryland's year to get back to the Final Four?

Speaker 2 There has been no better time in my opinion I think maybe since Maryland

Speaker 2 or excuse me, went to the Sweet 16 and lost to Michigan State in 2003, a year after winning the national championship, than it's been for Maryland to get to a a Final Four other than this year.

Speaker 2 Because this is the way I look at it. The team in 2016 that started Melo Trimble, Rashid Suleiman, Jake Lehman, Robert Carter, Diamond Stone.

Speaker 1 That team.

Speaker 1 It took some cashiola to knock on the ball. That was a rough recruiting loss for you.
That was a rough recruiting loss for you.

Speaker 2 But that team was built to play in another era of college basketball because they were so big. This team can downshift.
You can play big. You can play small.

Speaker 2 You've got a potential All-American and All-Big Ten player and Anthony Cowen in the back court. You have Jalen Smith, who I put on my second-team preseason, All-American, you know, in the front court.

Speaker 2 And you have other players that can emerge like an Aaron Wiggins, like a Daryl Morsell, who's one of the great glue guys in the sport, who literally fills the mortar between the bricks. So

Speaker 2 you've got a lot to work with right now if you're a Maryland fan.

Speaker 1 Well, so I'm happy to hear that because Maryland needs to start pulling their weight in the Big Ten. And they don't do it in football.
So the whole reason we brought them in was to be basketball.

Speaker 2 Have you guys seen a basketball game at Maryland?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Like I tweet it sometimes because the atmosphere is unbelievable. It's like, you go there and you think College Park is the spring break capital of the Northeast.
Whoa.

Speaker 2 Like, it is on fire there for games.

Speaker 1 You don't strike me as a guy who's ever been on spring break. Never been on spring break.

Speaker 2 My father wouldn't allow me to go when I was a senior in high school, and then I was only in college three years.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 1 Okay. Because you dropped out?

Speaker 2 What? No, I finished early. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wasn't on a springboard. Never been to spring break.

Speaker 4 Never been on a European vacation.

Speaker 1 Well, here's actually a joke. Did you guys think that?

Speaker 2 Here's actually a wrinkle. We've obviously been discussing potential places for the honeymoon.

Speaker 1 And you're like, can we keep it in the tri-state area, honey?

Speaker 2 And the truth is, no, it's like, it looks like it's going to be in 2020. I am going to go to Europe for the first time.

Speaker 1 Life air.

Speaker 2 It looks like Italy and Greece.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I've got to make sure that I understand the time zone stuff as best I can. And also, I want to make sure that my phone gets

Speaker 2 the proper service because you never know what could break.

Speaker 1 You'll be fine. You'll be fine.

Speaker 2 But it's like another thing.

Speaker 1 You know what? Give us your phone while you go. No, we'll.
We'll take care of it. Yeah, we'll take care of it.
You can go handle it. You're going to have access to my Twitter account.
We'll handle it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 you can just schedule out in advance. Right.
When you wake up in the morning, what is it? Stay hungry, stay humble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll handle it. We can handle it every day.
Every day is a gift art logo. He will break all the news.
PFT's dog breaks news all the time.

Speaker 4 It's pretty easy.

Speaker 1 Is that Leroy?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're familiar with Leroy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it sounds like you've gotten some scoops from him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Leroy's good people.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 he beat you to a scoop last year. I forget exactly.
It was some sort of transfer, I think.

Speaker 1 He gets half of them right now.

Speaker 2 One thing, though, I got to tell you, I'm saying this because, you know, you look like you're on a vegan diet or now. You've lost all the time.

Speaker 1 You said that. That's mean every time you say it.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 I still eat your juice. That's all I need to do.

Speaker 2 No, because I went on an F factor diet over the summer. I dropped 20.
The F factor diet? And I know you guys do a lot of pizza reviews here. What is the F factor diet? High fiber.

Speaker 4 High fiber. So you do shit all summer?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Well, you know, it's kind of like you have to work your way into that.

Speaker 2 But I'm saying, but I know you do a lot of pizza reviews.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And, like, you know, I've gotten into cauliflower pizza. I can't kick it.
No, it's really good.

Speaker 1 People say cauliflower pizza.

Speaker 4 They say cauliflower wings.

Speaker 1 No, not cauliflower. Cauliflower mashed potatoes.
No, cauliflower fans are good,

Speaker 2 but like I'm curious just to see like just how good the food is in Italy.

Speaker 4 It's better than cauliflower pizza. I'm sure it's better than cauliflower pizza.
They say if you say cauliflower pizza over there, they will murder you, and it's actually not against the law. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also think if you go to Italy, you have to come back. You're legally obligated to come back and be like, oh, I gained like 15 pounds.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, you know, there's going to be pasta making classes and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Will you be wearing your suits when you go on your honeymoon?

Speaker 2 Well, I only wear my suit because of one story when I was a young broadcaster.

Speaker 2 You know, I learned that there was always, you know, an opportunity to make a first impression. You never get a chance to make a second chance to make a first impression.

Speaker 2 When I was a young broadcaster, I was doing radio for ESPN Radio New York when I was working for the MSG Network. It was before I went to CBS.

Speaker 2 And I was doing updates part of the time on Michael Case, Afternoon Drive Show.

Speaker 1 Number one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he told me

Speaker 2 that Brian Williams was going to come in and, you know, take like a tour tour of the studio. And I said, well, if Brian Williams is going to come in, I got to wear a suit.
And I never after that

Speaker 2 made sure.

Speaker 2 I always made sure that I was in a situation where I wore a suit if I had a chance to make a first impression.

Speaker 1 What's your dry cleaning bill like?

Speaker 2 It gets up there during the season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, imagine.

Speaker 2 Gets up there during the season. But go ahead.

Speaker 4 It would be something if your fiancé said that you're going to Europe and then she just took you to Richmond. And you went to VCU's campus.
Yeah, and she's like, life-altering. Yeah, life-altering.

Speaker 4 It's exactly like Europe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did you see Batman?

Speaker 1 Are you you Joker? No, I did not. You did not?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So you didn't see it.
I don't think movies are as good anymore.

Speaker 1 I just don't see them. But yeah.

Speaker 2 I just think, like, I wish there was, like, I'd like to see The Irishman if it came out over the summer, but now there's basketball season.

Speaker 1 Did that come out in Netflix?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's on your TV. You don't have to even go out in public.

Speaker 2 But it's still basketball season. So it's like if you have a choice between watching a college basketball game or the Irishman, you're always going to take a college basketball game.

Speaker 4 Here's a modern one you can do. And I haven't even seen this movie, but whatever team is a juggernaut that's just crushing people.

Speaker 4 If a team doubles up on another team, beats them 70 to 35, you can say that coach, Thanos Snap.

Speaker 4 Okay. And then you just destroy him.

Speaker 2 I remember when Wichita State was ripping through the Missouri Valley like a chainsaw through butter.

Speaker 2 My one liner that season was Wichita State is like the Ivan Drago of the NBC, whatever it hits, destroys.

Speaker 1 So that was just a matter of time. So you tried to give him something that was topical

Speaker 1 back to 1980s. Just Thanos Snap.

Speaker 4 This just hit the top of my head. Eric Mussman, he runs a full court press.
It's tough to deal with. The Arkansas Full Court Press, like being buried up to your neck in fire ants.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, that's a no.

Speaker 1 No, that was a no. That was a hard no.
Well,

Speaker 2 here's the thing that I've learned. Like, you can't force it.
Like, sometimes it's like, oh, you have one line. Like, certain ones.

Speaker 1 I feel like your entire thing is forcing it.

Speaker 4 No. Not to him, though.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You beat us down with it till we love it.

Speaker 2 Right, but there are certain ones that aren't going to resonate.

Speaker 4 I think Thanos Snap will catch on with the kids.

Speaker 1 I think, or you could do a like so-and-so coach doesn't feel so good, and then put the Thanos Snap

Speaker 1 GIF in there. Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't know how to use GIFs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all right. That's, I mean, they're not surprising.
You did get on Instagram since last we saw you.

Speaker 2 I did get on Instagram.

Speaker 1 At john.Rothstein.

Speaker 2 At john.Rothstein.

Speaker 1 Big, big come up for you.

Speaker 2 Big come up. Honestly, like, I had no idea probably until like two years ago that it existed.
It's huge.

Speaker 1 It's massive. It's massive.
My last question, seek eat question. Promo code: take $10 off, go to a college basketball game.
You're going to be working sidelines. Where?

Speaker 2 Annapolis, Maryland, Davidson, Auburn, Friday night. CBSC.

Speaker 1 See if you can get tickets. It's promo code take on SeatGeek.
Pac-12. Tell me about the Pac-12.
I need the Pac-12 to be back because I love the late night Thursday game, the late night Thursday game,

Speaker 1 the conference of champions, but it's been bad. It has been bad, and I needed to come back because I need to have a reason to watch those late Thursday games with Bill Walton.

Speaker 2 Well, the Pac-12 to me is set up to have a bounce-back season. I mean, great recruiting classes in place at USC, Arizona, and Washington.

Speaker 2 The top eight of the league right now is as well positioned, I think, to have a great representation in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 Arizona State's probably going to shift back to the play the way they played two years ago. Small ball, incredibly fast-paced.
Love it. Remy Martin.

Speaker 1 Did they switch last year?

Speaker 2 They went to a more traditional spot.

Speaker 1 I lost every single time I bet on them. I did not know that.
I always kept on.

Speaker 2 What's your plus-minus for college basketball season? Minus.

Speaker 1 Minus? Minus, minus. Big time? Yeah, minus, minus.
All right. So, so Arizona State, so how many teams from the Pac-12 are going to be in the team?

Speaker 2 I think it's set up to be a four or five-bid league.

Speaker 1 Which is, was last year two? Yeah, two.

Speaker 2 Barely.

Speaker 2 Barely two. They had a team in the playing game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they needed Washington to win the.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, because here's the thing: you look at, there's question marks in the ACC, there's question marks in the SEC. The Big East, to me, is as balanced as it's been since realignment.

Speaker 2 So what happens then if you're balanced one through ten? Cannibalization at an Anthony Hopkins caliber level.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 4 Silence of Lance, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hannibal movie. Very, very, very bad.
It's on digital cable all the time, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. You love that movie? No, there's a bad sequel.
Oh, yeah, but

Speaker 1 Sansa Lanza Classic. But Red Dragon is great.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever seen Red Dragon. Red Dragon's really good.
Oh my God. Edward Norton.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen it. John.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of nude crouching in it.

Speaker 1 John, you have to watch Red Dragon. It is so good.

Speaker 2 I'll get to it in April.

Speaker 2 But to pick up where I said about the Big East, so if you are going to have all these question marks in all these power conferences, somebody has to eat up the bids.

Speaker 2 So that's why there's going to be a lot of opportunities for other leagues to do that.

Speaker 1 The AAC is going to get four.

Speaker 2 Well, the South Florida injury news today did not help with Alexis Yetna.

Speaker 2 No, Alexis Yetna was the top returning post-player in the American Conference.

Speaker 4 You don't have to manage that. You didn't know that.

Speaker 4 We were talking about it on lunch today.

Speaker 1 Who doesn't know Alexis Yetna?

Speaker 1 All right, so let's finish with this.

Speaker 1 Give us. Oh, I did write down.
Did you ever get... Did we last time talk about TSA PreCheck? Did you get clear yet? I got clear.
It's unbelievable. Okay, so now it's more life-altering.

Speaker 2 No, clear as TSA PreCheck on steroids.

Speaker 1 Right, so have you been tweeting that?

Speaker 2 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 You're not following me? No, I do follow you, but I can't keep up with everything. So you have been tweeting about clear.
Clear as TSA PreCheck on steroids.

Speaker 1 And TSA PreCheck is more life-altering than...

Speaker 2 It used to be TSA PreCheck life-altering. Now it's just clear, TSA PreCheck on steroids.

Speaker 1 You know, you can use clear at steroids.

Speaker 4 You can get into

Speaker 4 arenas using clear now. Really? You have it there.
You can bypass the line. It's great.

Speaker 1 All right. So last question.
Give me my national champion. I haven't seen a bracket yet.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Give me the three. All right.
Do it this way. Give me the five teams that can win a national title.

Speaker 2 You know, obviously it's going to depend on what trend. I would say right now, Michigan State and Kansas look like to me.
They're highly formidable.

Speaker 2 I think that Florida has a chance to take a major step in the SEC this year. We talked about interior scoring with Kerry Black's year.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say Maryland

Speaker 2 because I like the roster versatility. Damn.
And then if I got to give you one more,

Speaker 2 I am going to say. OVM.
No. Vermont.
I'm going to see Vermont November 16th, though, against St. John.

Speaker 1 You could say hi to Jake Marsh then.

Speaker 2 I could say Jake Marshall. I can give you like off-the-radar final four picks.

Speaker 2 Would that be good?

Speaker 1 Yes. Give us the teams that are, yeah, the long shots.

Speaker 2 But but like good enough. Right.
If I was going to give you off the radar final four picks, I would go Baylor. Okay.
Washington.

Speaker 1 Yep. Seton Hall.

Speaker 2 Florida State.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take some futures on these. Yep.

Speaker 2 And then there was one more I had.

Speaker 2 Let me think right here. LSU.

Speaker 4 LSU. So LSU.

Speaker 1 Okay, that LSU. Brings up some of the things that I've got.

Speaker 2 That's why Will Wade, the Frank Lucas of college basketball.

Speaker 4 Of course. Yeah, Will Wade.
What's going on down there? Because they had a weird season last year. There were suspensions.

Speaker 4 At some point, they just shrugged their shoulders and they're like, I guess Will Wade's coming back.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's, you know, there's no actual, from what we've been seeing, you know, what we've seen, there's no actual proof of anything.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, that's kind of obviously, I think, the issue when you go through these investigations is what do you have tangible proof of?

Speaker 2 And Will Wade, you know, gets back Javante Smart and Skylar Mays. They add Trendon Watford, their, you know, five-star freshman.

Speaker 2 That's a team, you know, you think about their backcourt with Smart and with Mays. When Traymont Waters Waters didn't play last year against Tennessee, they beat Tennessee.

Speaker 2 So the same backcourt is back. I would say right now, if you want to look at just some quick hitters for just, you know, the casual college basketball, you know,

Speaker 2 seen right now, we got five dark horses we just went through that can make the final four. Five teams who should be vastly improved, okay?

Speaker 2 Georgia, UTEP, New Mexico, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State under Mike Boynton. Five teams who could overachieve.

Speaker 1 Oklahoma State will always get that one win against Kansas because Bill Self gives him one. You got it.

Speaker 2 That does happen. Five teams that could overachieve in 1920, okay? UCLA and A ⁇ M because of the coaching.

Speaker 2 Kansas State, Nebraska, year one under Fred Hoiber, Pinnacle Bank Arena, underrated value, already sold out. And St.
John's with Mike Anderson. Now, how about five teams on the rise? Okay.

Speaker 1 Georgetown, Colorado.

Speaker 2 Penn State, Dayton. And again, I had South Florida on the list.
That was before the elections

Speaker 1 injury. Oh,

Speaker 1 still reeling.

Speaker 2 10 mid-majors to watch.

Speaker 1 10. This season.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Western Kentucky with Rick Stansbury returning Charles Bassey, a 14-10-2 guy in Conference USA.

Speaker 2 Vermont's on the list with the Duncan brothers, Steph Smith, and of course, Daniel Giddens and Anthony Lamb up front.

Speaker 2 Harvard, most talented Ivy League roster I've ever covered. Tommy Amicker's still there?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Tommy Amicker still there. Eight high-major players.
You look at Harvard, you see a team that has the chops to be a second weekend type team in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 Talent-wise, I'm not saying it's going to match. You want a name to remember right now for Harvard, Noah Kirkwood.
If Noah Kirkwood was at Virginia, he'd regularly be compared to Malcolm Brogdon.

Speaker 2 Liberty. It's not really an oversight.
It's an insult that Richie McKay's club is not getting more attention. Return Caleb Holmesley, beat Mississippi State last year in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 New Mexico State, St. Mary's, South Alabama,

Speaker 2 the only team in college basketball who returns five players who have averaged at least 14 points a game in their college career.

Speaker 2 Five players.

Speaker 2 Don Coleman is one. Trey Mitchell, Sunbelt Preseason Player of the Year, is another.
Andre Fox is a name to keep an eye on. He was sensational against Mississippi State in the charity exhibition.

Speaker 1 Colgate, and here's one thing to think about Colgate.

Speaker 2 Remember, they took Tennessee to the wire last year in the round of 64. They have their top five scorers back.
Matt Langel, great young coach. Utah State, obviously won the Mountain West last year.

Speaker 2 And Missouri State, who is another team that a lot of people should look at. Do you guys want 10 glue guys to watch this?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, give me a turn.

Speaker 2 All right, 10 glue guys to watch here on my list. Keehey Clark at Virginia.
Barbara.

Speaker 2 Dwayne Sutton at Louisville. Xavier Simpson at Michigan.
I mean, he's unbelievable for them.

Speaker 2 Andre Wesson at Ohio State, who, again, was a player they couldn't take off the floor towards the end of the season. Daryl Morcell at Maryland.

Speaker 2 Quincy McKnight at Seton Hall, Marcus Garrett at Kansas, Marcus Santos Silva at VCU, anchors the defense, Nogell Eastern at Purdue, and Rex Fluger at Notre Dame. Keep going.

Speaker 2 I've got right here, 10 key players returning from injury.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 2 Tiger Campbell and Sharif O'Neal at UCLA, Udoka Azabuke at Kansas, Jaquan Lyle at New Mexico, Tristan Clark at Baylor, Andrew Jones at Texas, Justin Minai at South Carolina, Seth Towns at Harvard, and again, Rex Fluger at Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 I hate Azabuke. Why? He can't hit a fucking free throw.
He's unguardable on the block. You left.
And he can't hit a free throw.

Speaker 4 Alexi Yetya.

Speaker 1 Yeah. South Florida.
You remember that?

Speaker 4 Yeah. He's coming back from injury.

Speaker 2 You're on it, BF.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 You've never been to Bar Coastal, really?

Speaker 4 Never been to Bar Coastal. I got to go there.

Speaker 1 I got to go.

Speaker 4 I'm a big wing guy. I'm a connoisseur.
I've been to the best wing places in New York, but I've never heard of that one.

Speaker 1 Do you ever have been to that you go to that you love Campanola? Very good. Very good.

Speaker 2 There's other Italian places too in the Upper East Side, you know, that I got to play with into. Primola, 64th and 2nd.
Elio's, 85th. What do you get when you go to Campagnola?

Speaker 1 I've had the chicken parm. I think I've had the veal as well.
You know, they give me a free vealhand. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The tri-pasta appetizer at Campagnola is more life-altering than clear or TSA Pre-Check. They do a tri-pasta appetizer.

Speaker 2 They do like a penne with a red sauce and a forcini and a white mushroom and a gnucchi with a pesto.

Speaker 1 It's to die for it. Saying gnocchi again? Gnucchi.
Yockey. Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they should actually have a clear at some restaurants to get you at the front of the line.

Speaker 1 You're going to be that annoying guy on your honeymoon that tries to say everything correctly in Italy.

Speaker 1 You think so? Yeah, I know so. Have you guys been abroad? A couple times? Yeah, a few times here and there.

Speaker 2 Anything you recommend over there? Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 Go to Amsterdam.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 I was in Amsterdam about four months ago. It was cool.
It's very cool. Went to a nice museum.

Speaker 1 Eat things.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just check it out. Red Light District.
John's looking at me. Whole nine yards.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 2 I'm just waiting to see if the food in Italy is really better than the food here.

Speaker 1 Yes, I would say the answer is yes.

Speaker 1 The food in Italy is good. What?

Speaker 1 I've eaten in some really good places.

Speaker 4 I've had pizza in Italy. It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 It's different, though, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's better.

Speaker 2 It's not like just a good slice that you want to get at like Pizza Park at one in the morning.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. No, it's better.

Speaker 4 I do have one more question. Could you step in at like a mid-major and be a head coach?

Speaker 2 I don't think I'm.

Speaker 2 That would be a bit of a much, you don't think?

Speaker 1 There's no way you'd be a good head coach.

Speaker 2 You don't think so? No.

Speaker 4 John Rothstein's defense. Like you're up to your neck and firing.

Speaker 1 Your scheduling part, yeah, you would be a great scheduler.

Speaker 1 You'd be a great coordinator of recruiting.

Speaker 1 Organizational. Organizational things.
Thank you. Yeah, yeah.
I lost my train. I thought there.
Yeah, you got it. You know what I'm saying? You'd be a great

Speaker 4 assistant athletic coach.

Speaker 1 It was an SID, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't want to be an SID, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. But you would be great at like being the right-hand man of like Coach K.
Okay. That would be actually

Speaker 1 the guy behind the guy. The bag man.
Yeah. The bag man.
You have to pay a lot of people for that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, your boy Club Trillion. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Mark Titus?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's not doing a pod anymore.

Speaker 1 He will be.

Speaker 4 He will be. He left on his own volition.
Yeah, good.

Speaker 2 You think it's him leaving, you know, not in the podcast world. It's like when Shannon Dory left on it to 1-0.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You're just waiting to get that in. All right, that's John Rostein.
He's the best. Waiting to get that in.
Follow him at John.

Speaker 1 Trying to give our boy Titus a shout-out.

Speaker 4 Well, he'll appreciate it. He probably got fired after what he said on our show.
Yeah, that's true. He really stepped in it last time.

Speaker 2 It seemed like he had some FOMO on Twitter when we said we were going to be on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 He'll be tickled pink that you mentioned his name, though.

Speaker 1 At john.rosting, CBS, CBB Insider. And you can find him College Hoops Today for Compass Media.
He's the best.

Speaker 1 It's only November. It's only college, too.
It's only November. I'm so excited for the college basketball season.
We will see you when we get to tourney time. Hopefully, we'll see you in between.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get some segments. First up, we have a very important segment.
Did he fart Mike Francesca? Should we put in the audio so people can decide for themselves? Here's the audio.

Speaker 9 I understand how much work they put into this, especially NFL head coaches.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 9 when you cannot function, when you're not functioning as a franchise, that's when you have to make a change.

Speaker 1 So this is, well, there's two parts to this.

Speaker 4 He definitely farted. Number one, that's not a question.
He then also,

Speaker 1 in like the last play he had, he farted on Tuesday and announced his retirement on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 And that's how quickly it happens.

Speaker 1 That's smart, though, because now everyone's talking about his retirement and not the fart.

Speaker 4 And he can change his mind tomorrow about retiring and do the Jay Leno. Right.
I'm quitting.

Speaker 1 I'm coming back. Again, yeah.
Again.

Speaker 4 The snip, snap, snip, snap.

Speaker 1 I'm back. Here's the thing.
There are fart guys and not fart guys. I'm a fart guy.
I am in the fart guy club. Jim Tomsulla, fart guy.
Mike Dika, fart guy. Mike Francesa, fart guy.

Speaker 1 If you think about Mike Francesa and you like close your eyes, he's walking around and he's constantly farting. He's like a leaky tire.

Speaker 4 That's the thing. I think old people, once you reach a certain age, you just always fart.
Your body is in a constant state of leaking gas out of your butt.

Speaker 4 And maybe once or twice an hour, it closes up enough to make the fart sound. Right.
So it's like a reverse fart that he has almost. And he was unlucky enough that he got caught on camera.

Speaker 4 I like how you just, you declared yourself a fart guy. Yeah, yeah.
Have you been caught on camera farting? No, I have not. He's a preemptive fart guy.

Speaker 1 No, no, but it was an errant fart, there was an errant fart, and I was blamed for it more than anyone.

Speaker 1 And I understand that as a guy, like I, people look at me and they're like, hey, that's a fart guy. And I understand the cross I bear.

Speaker 4 It's fine.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not saying fart guys might not fart more than average, but they are the guys that will get blamed for the fart when it happens in a room.

Speaker 4 Jim Tomsula is, he's the perfect platonic ideal of a fart guy. Right.

Speaker 1 So it's, it is, there, it's just something that happens in society where if you look around a room, you will know, like, again, they might not be the ones who did it.

Speaker 1 They're the ones who will get blamed because they just have a look. And Mike Francesa did.

Speaker 1 He did it, though.

Speaker 3 That's not the.

Speaker 1 No, he definitely was.

Speaker 3 He wasn't a fart guy. It's, did he do it?

Speaker 4 Well, I think he did, but you know what? My answer is? Even if he did do it, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 1 Who cares? Stanley, who cares? But

Speaker 1 it doesn't matter if he does it. Hank, that's my point.
It's like he is a fart guy. So whether he did it or not, he's going to get blamed for for it.
And that's just how the world works. I do.

Speaker 3 Do you actually think that the farting affected his decision to retire? Yes. I think it did.

Speaker 4 Yes. I think it did because everyone is talking about him farting.
Right. He's got it.

Speaker 3 He was a plan he was going to do. And then once it was like, oh shit, how do we deal with this farty stuff? Let's announce this early, like a pre-announced, like a PR kind of just.

Speaker 1 I think he probably knows as a guy who farts a lot. I likened it to basically when you walk around with the athletic pants.
And if

Speaker 1 that's Mike Frances's butt cheeks, just

Speaker 4 always kind of wide open like a tube up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's walking around with a tube in his pants.

Speaker 4 Yeah, his lower intestines dragging out like a tail, right?

Speaker 1 So he knows that at some point he's going to either one, fall asleep on air again or two, fart.

Speaker 1 And at that point, he will take out his breaking case of emergency fart glass and say he's going to retire again.

Speaker 4 I think the other move for him would have been to just say that he has an addiction. Like, use the notes.

Speaker 4 No, no, use the notes app, pop something out there, and say, I'm addicted to Diet Coke. He is.

Speaker 4 And what you saw was the result of, you know, 25 years of drinking 12 Diet Cokes a day with the aspartame. Now my body's developed a condition.

Speaker 4 I'm checking it. I'm seeking treatment for my addiction.
And then just blame it on that. Come back.
Start dumping your Diet Coke into a paper cup so no one can tell what you're drinking.

Speaker 4 But at that point, we can't be mad at you anymore. Yeah, addiction.
You had a problem, a medical issue. issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got a fart problem. He's addicted to farts.
He just farts all the time.

Speaker 1 All right, so congrats to Mike Francesa on his second retirement. How long will this one last?

Speaker 4 I think he's already back. Yeah.
I think, well, you can't be number two if you're retired.

Speaker 1 Can they rename his studio?

Speaker 4 He is number two. No, he's not number two because he's retired.

Speaker 1 Well, he hasn't retired yet.

Speaker 4 But he has declared his intent.

Speaker 1 He wants another retirement tour, which is that's the hilarity in this, the hilarious part of this whole thing.

Speaker 4 He's the Brett Favre of radio.

Speaker 1 He did a retirement week where he had all of his friends and all the celebrities call in and say how much they're going to miss him and how much they love him. They named the studio after him.

Speaker 1 He came back three months later, four months later. And he's going to do it all again.
I mean, with this video, they're going to rename the studio.

Speaker 4 Success of the Mike Sawn app. It should be called the Mike Sawn app Radio Studio.
Yeah. So he gets a little extra promotion.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even own it anymore.

Speaker 4 He sold it? Yes. Probably made a mint off it.

Speaker 1 He was so bad that he basically gave it up to radio.com.

Speaker 4 Mike, if you really want to make an app, just make a Mike Francesco fart simulator app. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Hilarious. I love it.
He's a fart guy. He's a fart guy.
All right, Sabre Metrics PFD. You had this for me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is just something interesting I came across online today.

Speaker 4 It's a comparison between coach A and Coach B. So you tell me which coach you'd rather have these.
Okay, this is through 23 games in their NFL career. One coach has 7,472 yards of offense.

Speaker 4 The other has 7,887 yards of offense.

Speaker 4 One has 549 points. That's coach A again.
Coach B has 602 points, so 53 more points than Coach A.

Speaker 4 So one has about 400 yards more offense.

Speaker 1 What about wins and losses?

Speaker 4 We're just going to stick to the saber metrics here. As a math guy,

Speaker 4 you know that wins and losses don't matter, right? They matter the most. You know that they don't matter.
Coach wins and both process over results.

Speaker 4 So between those two, which one would you rather have? I won them both fire. Congrats, you took Mark Tressman.
Yeah, I won them both fire. So one was Matt Nagy and the other was Mark Tressman.

Speaker 4 That's interesting. Who created this? I believe this was NBC Sport Chicago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just did it because we've been talking about how he's cocky Mark Tressman. And he is.
So point proven yet again.

Speaker 1 Also, Matt Nagy did win Coach of the Year. That's going to be such a sad trophy in his house in like five years.
Like, yeah, yeah, Coach of the Year.

Speaker 4 I'm at the point where I think that Bill Belichick encourages other people to win coach of the year, so that gives him more fuel. You know, it gives him that anger.

Speaker 1 This year, I'm going to try to win Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 All right, last, or no, we got two more. PR 101 for Jermaine Whitehead.

Speaker 4 It's more that he just gave up.

Speaker 3 It was like, I can do the politics game and I can like do the shit I have to do and I'll get coach of the year. Or I can just say, fuck it, and I don't, like, I'm going to win.

Speaker 3 I'm never going to win coach of the year.

Speaker 4 Isn't that the same thing? Like, what kind of extra politics does a coach do to get coach of the year?

Speaker 1 I'm sure.

Speaker 3 I'm sure Belichick played ball a little bit more with the NFL, they would give him Coach of the Year.

Speaker 4 100%. If he took Peter King out to Skyline Chile once a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much it.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm sure there's a couple things that the NFL is. I'm sure there's a lot of things that the NFL comes to the Patriots and are like,

Speaker 3 we want you to do this. And he's like, no, fuck you.

Speaker 1 They always give Coach of the Year to the guy who has a team that kind of comes out of nowhere anyway. So that's why he doesn't get Coach of the Year.
Let's see. Coach of the Year winners.

Speaker 1 I bet you there's actually some hilarious winners in the past.

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick is the first one who comes up. So NFL coach of the year, Matt Nagy, that sucked.
Sean McVay. Jason Garrett won coach of the year in 2016.
That's weird.

Speaker 1 Ron Rivera, Bruce Arians, Ron Rivera, Bruce Arians. That's actually how it went.
Jim Harbaugh. Bill Belchek has three.
Marvin Lewis has one in 2009. Mike Smith has one.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 2008, he won coach of the year. Dick Geron won coach of the year.
Yeah, that's...

Speaker 1 Listen, all you got to do is have one year where it's like, boom, out of nowhere. Jim Fossil, Dom Capers.

Speaker 4 Andy Reid won it last year.

Speaker 4 Man. That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 I'm just glad Andy got it.

Speaker 1 Well, Andy Reid did not win it last year.

Speaker 4 Andy Reid. Oh, the Sporting News.

Speaker 4 He won Sporting News NFL Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm talking about the AP, dude.

Speaker 4 Okay. AP for Sporting News.

Speaker 1 Get it right. Oh, yeah.
That is. That's weird that there's two of them.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So who has consensus, the most consensus coaches of the year? Mike Smith won that in 2012 as well.

Speaker 4 Mike Smith won 2010 Sporting News.

Speaker 1 2010. Oh, and 2012.

Speaker 4 So he was consensus.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
All right. So we just did.
This actually was.

Speaker 4 In conclusion, Mike Smith is the best coach to ever coach in the NFL in the last decade.

Speaker 1 And we also would like to say that this was actually a super meta joke where this was us celebrating Mike Francesca's

Speaker 1 career by reading off a list for everyone at home.

Speaker 1 That's a two

Speaker 4 for Mike. A 21-fart salute.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there we go, Mike.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 PR 101 for Jermaine Whitehead, who was the Browns' safety cornerback.

Speaker 4 Safety?

Speaker 1 Threatened people online on Twitter after they lost the Broncos, got cut, got taken off Twitter, and now is apologized.

Speaker 1 So, thanks.

Speaker 4 What would you rather do? Get cut from the Browns or suspended from Twitter? I think I'd rather not play for the Browns anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially how this season.

Speaker 4 Still have a Twitter account.

Speaker 1 Here's my problem with what he did. Not that he threatened people, whatever.
That happens every day on Twitter. My problem is he said, meet me at this address and then gave the facility address.

Speaker 1 If you tell someone to meet you somewhere, it has to be your house.

Speaker 4 Right. You got to man up.
No, I agree because if they meet you at the team facility and shit goes down, guess what? You've implicated your teammates now. Right.
So congratulations.

Speaker 4 Baker Mayfield is a murderer of things besides fashion.

Speaker 1 I think that's PFT on the list. I'm not afraid of the list.

Speaker 1 I'm not listening right now.

Speaker 4 I've stood up for Baker more than you have in the past.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 4 I simply have.

Speaker 4 I think Whitehead should just be like, hey, listen, my name's Whitehead. My last name is Whitehead.
I've had a tough life.

Speaker 4 This has not been easy for me to deal with that as my name for the last 24 years or 25 years, however long he's been alive. Give him a break.
I don't have a problem with that. My problem with him is

Speaker 1 he lied.

Speaker 4 He said, I'm going to kill you, bitch. That's on blood.

Speaker 4 So he said, he swore that he would kill him, and they didn't follow his word.

Speaker 1 Well, he got kicked off Twitter, so he probably couldn't find who he told he was going to kill.

Speaker 4 He also, he didn't say no cap, so it might have been a cap situation.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. No blood.
He said, no blood.

Speaker 1 He said on blood.

Speaker 4 That's on blood. Come get it in blood, bitch.
Come get it in blood, bitch-made-ass little boy.

Speaker 1 I'm out there.

Speaker 1 All these. This is very offensive.

Speaker 4 I'm out there with a broke hand. Don't get smoked.
I'm going to kill you, bitch. That's on blood.
But he didn't say no cap. That sucks at the same time.
So he's joking.

Speaker 1 He's not playing with a broken hand because that's something you like should actually be able to tell everyone. Like, hey, actually, I have a broken hand and they're making me play.

Speaker 4 Was he on the injury report?

Speaker 1 No, I don't know. So, ooh, Freddie Kitchens might be in trouble.

Speaker 1 Let's keep that off Freddy Kitchens' plate. He's got too much.
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Thanks, Jake. Very cool.
That was awesome, Jake.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake. You sound a little different.

Speaker 4 Yeah, some meat specials.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 1 All All right, let's finish up guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 By the way, Friday, we have, I think we're going to have Warren Sharp back in the studio, and we have Herm Edwards. Coach Herm Edwards, which is awesome.
Master motivator.

Speaker 1 And we have the GOAT coming next week, Jerry Rice.

Speaker 3 Sup, fellas, what is your take on inverted nipples? Have you ever come across them before? And if you did, would you be alarmed?

Speaker 3 Sometimes it makes me feel insecure because I don't know how guys feel about it. I've had them my whole life, obviously.

Speaker 3 And my boyfriend thinks they are really, quote-unquote, rare, when in reality, lots of women have them. Is he right or is this a normal thing?

Speaker 4 I like how he refers to you as rare, like a Pokemon. Like you're

Speaker 4 a strange, a Magic the Gathering card that he hasn't been able to play yet that he found on eBay.

Speaker 1 I don't know what an inverted thing is. I'm looking for it.
I'm going to look it up.

Speaker 1 There's a belly button. Yeah, that's fine.
No, you just don't have the nip. Like, it's just...
The nip is just not there. It's like there, but it's not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're fine.

Speaker 1 I'm now looking at porn.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's I think that's a normal nipple. I am.

Speaker 1 I mean, these are breasts that I'm looking at. Yeah.
That's breasts. Those are breasts.

Speaker 4 You know what it kind of looks like is the emoji that has the line that goes straight across the like not happy not sad emoji? It looks like that without eyes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you're fine. You're fine.

Speaker 1 Once someone gets to the shirt off portion, they're pot committed. Yes.
So whatever your nipples look like, it's not going to affect it.

Speaker 3 APMT mates, especially stash cat. and drunk tweeted lamb.

Speaker 3 I just, it's a mate, so you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, we know.

Speaker 3 My boyfriend recently started eating with his mouth open in an effort to tighten up his jawline.

Speaker 3 And he is convinced that the wider he opens his mouth and the latter he chews, the faster he will get results.

Speaker 3 This is a huge pet peeve of mine, and there would never have even been a second date if he ate like this on the first one.

Speaker 3 He says he will only have to do it for a couple of months, but I don't think I can take it. Please help.
What do I do?

Speaker 4 This sounds like some shit that a self-help person would put on YouTube as a joke.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this sounds like something today talked about like a Joe Rogan podcast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Joe Rogan. It's like if you chew raw elk meat with your mouth open, it increases testosterone levels.

Speaker 1 I think this might work, though. I'm kind of into it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to chew gum. Yeah, because

Speaker 1 I want to have that like Bulgarian's jaw.

Speaker 4 Can you chew gum with your mouth open?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Of course. Ask Pete Carroll or his twin.

Speaker 1 Dude, what is the...

Speaker 1 Do we have updates on the twin? Yeah, the twin is real. I mean, it's his brother.
And it looks exactly like him. And yeah, maybe they were born a couple years apart, but it's a fucking twin.

Speaker 1 You can't get one by us, Pete.

Speaker 3 Hey, boys, especially cat dad.

Speaker 1 Hank, dad. That's

Speaker 3 a hank. No, not yet.

Speaker 1 That's you.

Speaker 4 I have a weird predicament with a new boyfriend.

Speaker 3 We have been exploring and sharing our kinks. Lately, he has signaled he would like me to be his pet.
He wants me to crawl around like a dog, bark, and smell my ass.

Speaker 3 The sex before this has been really good. Should I leave before he makes me pee on him like a fire hydrant?

Speaker 4 I think if you've gone this far, that's really the only thing you have to look forward to, is pissing on him.

Speaker 1 Crawl around, bark.

Speaker 3 What else? Smell my ass.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No, you know what you should do is you should just get in a dogfight with him. Just fucking bite him in the neck and see what he says then.
Be like, whoa, we're not playing anymore. Sorry.
Do that.

Speaker 3 Hey, dad cat in normal height TFT. My boyfriend won't stop Julian and continually hides it from me.
He thinks I don't know.

Speaker 3 He hides it in his crew-cut socks and goes to the bathroom every 15 minutes to take a rip. Then comes back relieved he got his rip in.

Speaker 3 If he gets caught, he just tosses it to the nearest guy in the the room saying, thanks for the rip. I send him articles all the time about the dangers of this habit, but he won't listen.

Speaker 3 He's a listener of the show, and so am I, so I hope you can offer some advice about what I should do to make him quit or if I should just give up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was the toughest thing I've ever had to quit.

Speaker 3 It's definitely a college kid if he's just around like dudes at any given moment.

Speaker 1 Closest bro. Yeah,

Speaker 1 here's what you do.

Speaker 4 It's really simple.

Speaker 1 Get him a bunch of those no-show socks. Like the really, you know, the ones that you wear with loafer.
Yeah, they suck, but you know what? You can't hide a fucking jewel in them.

Speaker 1 They'll get destroyed. Yeah, guess what? Better than your lungs, Hank.

Speaker 4 But he'll just put it lower in his foot.

Speaker 4 I like where your head's at. It's like try to solve the problem in a creative way.
Right.

Speaker 4 The problem with that is the grips of jewel addiction, the spikes get so far deep into you that even if they take away your ability to smuggle, you'll just start keystring it.

Speaker 4 You'll keyster a jewel to get a sweet drag.

Speaker 1 It's bad.

Speaker 4 I don't know. My recommendation is switch to cigarettes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just get cigarettes and then transition slowly from cigarettes to chewing tobacco.

Speaker 3 Transfer to cigarettes because it's winter out and they're not going to want to go outside to smoke.

Speaker 4 Yes. And then transfer from cigarettes to chewing tobacco, then chewing tobacco to tea leaves with nicotine on them.
That's the progression I've made since

Speaker 4 June.

Speaker 1 Do you actually

Speaker 4 of this year?

Speaker 1 Do you have? Oh, that is when you stop.

Speaker 3 Do you have any actual helpful advice you can give to the people that might actually be trying to quit school?

Speaker 1 Stop. That's literally.

Speaker 3 How did you do it? No,

Speaker 3 PFT was

Speaker 3 fully fledged addicted. That's cut.

Speaker 4 That's literally how I just stopped doing it, and I would smoke cigarettes sometimes.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 4 But now you're completely off. Analog cigarettes.
Yeah. Now I'm totally.
I haven't had a jewel again since Grit Week.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 4 Go on Grit Week. Go.
Here's how you quit Jewel.

Speaker 1 That was the other thing.

Speaker 1 You tried to quit on Grit Week. Yeah, in a van.
You can't quit in a van.

Speaker 4 Go interview Zach Efron and Blake Griffin. That worked for me.

Speaker 3 All right, last one. Hey, guys, especially Dad Cat.
My husband and I recently had our first child.

Speaker 3 The waiting period is over, and I'm cleared by the doctor to resume what I hope to be regular activities again. Just one holdup.

Speaker 3 My husband claims he has PTSD from being in the delivery room, and he says he's adopted the mantra of the sopranos. Is this it for us?

Speaker 3 What can I tell him to make this go away? I don't know what the mantra of the sopranos is.

Speaker 1 The junior soprano, I think, doesn't eat. He eats pussy and they all made fun of him.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then pussy bump and cerro got killed because he was a rat. Yep.

Speaker 4 That was big pussy, though.

Speaker 4 So he's going to.

Speaker 1 I don't know, man. This is, you got to figure this out yourself.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 1 you've got to figure this out yourself.

Speaker 4 I think he needs to grow up.

Speaker 1 That's just going to say the end of this segment.

Speaker 3 You can't just say that, big cat.

Speaker 3 No one's going to send us questions.

Speaker 1 Listen, the delivery room is a scene, and you just got to put it away.

Speaker 1 Just fucking put it into packages. Oh, that's that's just put that's for the guy? Yeah, the guy, yeah.
Just tell him, just tell your husband to man up, and what happened happened and move on.

Speaker 1 And we don't talk about problems. We talk about solutions.
John Taffer taught me that.

Speaker 4 I think the solution is just basically say, we're going to fuck right now. And you're going to get over it.
Or are you going to be a little crybaby? Which one are you going to do? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dominate him. Or make him bark.

Speaker 3 She's looking for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. We got that.

Speaker 1 Dominate him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She wants him to

Speaker 4 go play with the man in the boat.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Just tell him to man up. Yeah, just tell him to manage.
Tell him to man up. Here's what you do.

Speaker 4 Get him a pair of goggles. Get him a miner's hat.
You send him downstairs.

Speaker 1 Tell him to man the fuck up and just do it. Get down there and eat that pussy.

Speaker 4 Go ahead, not like that. Love you guys.