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Today is Wednesday, November 6th. Boys, this is sports nirvana.
We've reached it. College basketball is is back we're in the stretch where there is a football game every single night for a month we have everything going on it's fucking beautiful it is pretty and we have a cat and we have a cat well there was a cat game it's also halfway through the nfl season we've officially don't do that hit the halfway i just want to i bring it up because I wanted to give one award out.
One award, NFL Commissioner of the Year to Roger Goodell. Yes.
For saving us by doing nothing with the NFL pass interference replay review. Yes.
Because it's an idiot test for coaches. And Pat Shermer and Mike Tomlin have failed repeatedly at it.
But he did something. He tried to fix it.
He put in a new rule. Turns out that the rule doesn't do shit except punish coaches that don't learn from it.
They basically are the mouse just keep on touching the cheese and getting their hands snapped off. And Freddie Kitchens does it as well.
If you're a coach, and what was the stat? It was like five for 58 or something now. If you're a coach and you challenge pass interference, you are a fucking moron.
All that it does, all the rules done, is just figured out which coaches were dumb and it's given more time for advertisements for the NFL because we get an extra two minutes a game out. Well, it did one other thing.
It split up the Goliks. The Goliks are fighting over it.
So that's really what it is. It is tearing families apart.
That's how stupid this rule is. It's that we got to the second half of that Monday night football game.
It felt like there was a flag on every single play. It was so dumb.
I don't understand what we're doing. Thanks, Saints.
Thanks for ruining it for us. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, you got screwed, but you didn't have to screw all of us. Yeah, I think people like the city of New Orleans when you're pissed off about something.
Right. You guys would be happier probably complaining about something than have a rule that didn't fix anything.
And you're right. The Goliks are pissed at each other.
I don't know which side to take in that situation. Junior versus senior.
We should just get a jersey. Half of it says Golik and the other half says Golik.
Yeah. And just like, hey, we root for both teams.
Both sides here. Yeah, no, we like the Golic, so we'll just let them fight it out.

I was pissed off that Trey Wingo didn't jump at the end and say,

well, that escalated quickly.

That would have been just –

Trey, you had one fucking moment that you could have really nailed it,

and you blew it, buddy.

Damn, come on, Trey.

So we had the Giants and the Cowboys, Daniel Jones, who is –

he really is Eli Manning. If Eli Manning – like, he's just a little bit shittier of a version.
Like, they updated the model, and he has the same type of fumbles, interceptions. He can run a little bit.
He's got a fuckable spiral. Yeah.
But, man, does that guy like turning the ball over. He loves turning the ball over.
He is much, much better at running. He's way more mobile.
Well, I mean mean he's like 20 years younger so when he got into the league it's if you took eli manning's fight or flight response and then just pushed it on its head that's what you get with daniel jones because eli manning when he's in trouble he'll just hit the ground he just goes indian style yes but it's down daniel jones he'll get he'll run he'll run away he'll get there eventually but it's funny because the first knock about uh i guess the first real good thing about Daniel Jones when he got into the league was that he wasn't Eli Manning. And now the big knock.
No, I thought that was the positive. The positive, the Giants were like, this is Eli Manning again.
No, I'm saying when he got into the game, Giants fans. Oh, even though that's what they drafted.
Even though that's what they drafted. But they got him into, when they first put him in, they're like, wow, this guy's not Eli Manning.
And now the knock against him is that he's not Eli Manning. Right.
And so it's like his strength and weakness at the same time. But he is.
Is not being Eli Manning. But he is Eli Manning.
But he is Eli Manning. When he turns the ball over.
He's just very confusing to watch. Yeah.
And he, I think Daniel Jones' biggest problem is I don't think he has a vice i do not think he has a vice i think he needs to get a vice i think he needs to maybe be a smoker or i don't know like video poker or something a gamer yeah because it just feels like he's a little too plain his vice is literally just throwing interceptions so you need to shift that vice to something else and make his play on the field a little more productive. Yeah.
Looking at him and knowing about his personality as it stands, I think all he does is just go to football practice, go home, and then just sit on his couch. I don't think he has a TV.
He stares at the wall. I think he looks at the wall.
And he eats his microwave dinner. Yeah.
Mixed up a little bit, Daniel. His vice is probably like only 50% off at J.Crew Columbus Day weekend.
That's his vice. That's a pretty good vice.
That's a big vice. I mean, that's a lot of discounts.
So before we get to the cat, we should also just mention our weekly. Pat Shurmur's a fucking idiot, and I don't know what he's doing out there.
No one in the NFL likes to punt when down in the fourth quarter more than Pat Shurmur. And I get it.
I think he was on his own 35 or something or 30 down two scores. It was long.
It was like a fourth and ten. But still, when you give the ball back, you have no chance of winning the game.
You have to score. You have to start scoring now.
So he just looks lost. I feel like this is probably he's going to be done after this year.
You have to move on. And yeah, Pat Shermer, he shielded himself nicely with Eli Manning for a year and a half there.
But now that they have what should be a competent quarterback, it's all kind of coming ahead. I think that with Pat Shermer, you get exactly what you thought you were going to get with him.
And if you look everywhere that he's been as a coach, this has been his record. Yeah.
But they're like, sooner or later, he's going to turn it around. Once we get him in a good system with a good quarterback, once we have a couple drafts built around him by Gettleman, then he'll be good.
But it's not going to happen. And he's a kind of coach that will shield himself not only with Eli Manning, but also just with fact that he uh he doesn't take any chances whatsoever ever and if you're a head coach in the NFL who never takes chances you're probably going to last an extra season over an equally shitty coach who does take chances right so you're smart on well I actually think it's changing now too because people are getting smarter and these nerds are taking over I count myself as a nerd I understand that when you're down 14 and score a touchdown you should go for two that's not a brag i just understand the math but i think people coaches now are getting criticized more for being conservative and it's like flipped on its head 20 years ago if you went for it on fourth down you were looked as you know an idiot when you go for it on fourth down now even if you don't get it, the general public is like, hey, you know what? This is actually the numbers back this up.
You should probably be going for it more on fourth down. The general public is saying that, but I think until we get a nerd in ownership, it'll still be easy.
It'll still be easy. I don't think that Mr.
and Mrs. Mara, the Maras.
No, they don't. I don't think that they really – they look at punting as a positive.
Listen. When you punt the ball, you can't throw an interception.
Fans run this league. We run the world.
Fans get to decide hirings and firings. The Maras work for us.
The other story is clearly the cat. Yeah, so – The streaker.
Now, I read a little stat about this cat and where it came from, where they think it came from. It's not a stray.
It's one of up to 18 cats that they think lives inside MetLife Stadium. I think that still makes it a stray.
So that's it. Well, it's got a home.
It's got a roof. And that tells me that the Maris are crazy cat people, officially.
I don't trust it. Well, if a black cat.
What about the Jets? I'll say this. Well, yeah, the Johnsons are probably cat people too.
If you see a cat run across your home field during a game, you're cursed at that point. You just got to burn it to the ground.
I'm going to bet against the Giants every single game for the rest of the season. Did you retweet the cat? You were done.
Did you retweet the cat? No, that was a cheap move on your part. It's not a cheap move.
It was a smart move. It was a very cheap move for engagement.
I then got the luckiest. Listen, it would be a cheap move if I don't also retweet every time someone does that to me.
Every single time you see it. Why don't you get the laws of the Internet? If you didn't retweet my cat.
So you're saying you want people to tweet at you those cats all the time? No, that's fine. People do that all the time, and I retweet it.
That's fine. Keep doing it.
I don't care. But then I can get the.
There's also one floating around that basically makes you immune if you retweet that. The Ariana Grande one? So I've done that, and I'm immune.
I was more looking for the new Twitter accounts, the parody accounts. It was like a little throwback to 2012.
When this cat ran across the field, I knew instantly there would be no less than 6,000 Twitter parody accounts. It's so annoying.
MetLife cat. They replied every tweet.
The black cat at MetLife. Giants cat.
I couldn't help but wonder with all the news last week about Cone and the dog that took down ISIS. He was on all the news stories.
He was basically the main center of America's focus. If it was a little too convenient that the very next Monday Night Football game, a cat took center stage.
Hank, it's a plan. If we can get you this cat, will you adopt it? This specific cat? Yeah, I would.
Okay, someone in the Giants facility, get this cat for us. I mean, I'm down to go to MetLife Stadium and actually trap the cat.
Could you imagine if Hank had the first, well, it's probably not the first celebrity cat, but one of the first celebrity cats? We got it. We have to get this cat.
Please, someone. Someone listens to this podcast right now or knows someone who listens to this podcast or knows someone who knows someone can get us this cat.
What are we going to name the cat? We should name it right now because we saw it. MetLife.
Yeah, MetLife the cat? Yeah. Met the cat.
Met. Booger love.
Did Booger was having a great time? Booger the cat? Boog. Boog.
I have a new segment. Eli.
Oh, would a fan cat have a cat named Eli inside his house? Absolutely not. Eli the cat.
Dimes. No, it's Eli.
Danny Dimes. Eli is the name of the cat.
Absolutely not. No.
Yeah, well, we're just going to call it Eli. Oh, you know what? Because Pat Shermer's going to get fired.
Let's call him Pat the cat. I don't like that.
Really? Nah. Pat the cat? I like non-human names or something, you know.
Mix it up. All right, so I have a new segment for you guys.
It's called... Speaking of cats.
Jimmy the doorman. My doorman, Jimmy, he's a big jokester.
I came out to walk Stella this morning and he said, hey, Dan, did you hear this? Did you hear about this one? Some say that that cat spent more time in the end zone than the Jets. That's pretty good.
I took a look at the cat's route tree and it spelled out Hulu has live sports. If you looked at where it was.
There we go. I think they should have shot it.
That would be cool if there was a sniper up on the roof of every – Actually, get rid of streakers. You get shot.
Yeah. The ultimate sky judge is the sniper up in the upper deck.
That would be sick. Yeah, no, they should have – There were state troopers that were surrounding it.
Put the cat down. You don't want to encourage that sort of thing.

Shoot it like a horse.

No, we got to get that cat.

Hank said he's going to die.

You're going to regret this when we get this cat.

You don't think we have the power to get this cat?

Plaxico was there last night.

Plaxico could have taken care of it.

Yep.

One shot, one kill.

I've come around to cats.

Oh.

Okay.

Well, Eli the cat is going to be.

I've assumed that at some point I'm going to get a cat, so I'm just like, whatever.

Yeah.

All right.

Anything else about the Monday Night Football game?

I mean, the Cowboys are back, kind of. I want to talk one thing, one extra thing about Catgate, going back to the curse.
1969, the other most famous black cat. Cubs Mets.
Cubs were up by eight games. Yes.
Mid-August, the cat runs across. Ron Sano says, it looked me in the eye.
It did. And then the Cubs choked.
But can the Giants choke any more than they already are choking? Probably not probably not they are they uncursable i don't know all i know is that i had the over in that game and it was an insane ending for the over yeah so did i was that was a retweet cat good luck thing that was a wonderful i also had the over and i didn't retweet the cat but i got so i got it too no but you're lucky i got it too i got it and you i got my coat i got my three field goals, my three-and-a-half field goals as well. That was for the cat.
It was cool how when there's a cat delay, anytime there's like a bee delay or a cat delay or a squirrel delay or a fox delay, the entire game shuts down. The play could be at the opposite one-yard line, and all the players just stand around watching the cat.
It's like a free timeout. And it's the funniest thing ever.
Everyone loves it. andy reed will bring out three cats underneath his big puffer jacket he uses three free timeouts yeah he'd eat that cat for sure imagine if that was the new flag system maybe that's what we need to do to make it so that coaches stop doing stupid things and challenging roughing the path or uh pass interference the challenge flag is actually a cat so you literally have to throw a cat oh i was gonna say you have to catch a cat no you have to throw it okay but then you have to go into a bag and throw a live animal and that will make the pat shurmurs the freddy kitchens and mike tomlins of the world think twice about challenging and okay you throw the cat but then to get another challenge you have to catch the cat okay and then yeah yeah so you can re-throw it as long as you get it.
And Andy Reid just running around trying to catch it. I like that.
I think I get the feeling that Andy Reid's legs smell a lot like tuna to begin with. So the cat will probably just be best of friends with him.
Damn. Just rubbing himself in between his legs, going back and forth, figure eights around the ankles.
Yeah, that would be a lot. All right.
Should we do some hot seat cool thrown before we get to John Rothstein? Sure. All right, Hank, go ahead.
Why don't you start, Big Cass? No, you start. Oh, yeah.
You start. I have something that has to play off yours.
Oh, wow. Oh, you know what Hank's going to be? Yeah, I do too.
My hot seat is the Lakers. No, I made that up, by the way.
The Lakers? I don't know what it's going to be. Go ahead.
Wow, that's fucked up. My hot seat is the Lakers.
I've been reading the deal. Again? Yeah.
My hot seat to the Lakers. Anthony Davis was at like a school speaking or something, some type of charity event.
And he called Chicago the Mecca. And he said they asked about him coming back to Chicago to play.
And he said, I am a free agent next year, but we will see. Door is wide open.
Those are just facts. He's already sick of LeBron.
Those are just facts that he said. Nothing about that.
No, the hot seat though if you're a Lakers fan you're like fuck LeBron's a million years old he has a gray beard he's washed up and now Anthony Davis is out in the history of the Chicago Bulls and we've traded our entire future for him we have never had a free agent not sign with us that we were expecting to get that's true how many of them called it the Mecca though no I was being facetious Hank there literally has never been a free agent how many of them called it the Mecca, though? No, I was being facetious, Hank. There literally has never been a free agent.
How many of them called it the Mecca? That's true. Okay.
You're right. You're right.
Also, Coach Cal coached players that are from Chicago tend to have long careers when they go to the Bulls. Derek Rose is still in the NBA PFT.
Yeah. And he's doing just fine.
Come back player of the year. Yeah.
He's doing just fine. He got a standing O last week at the Bulls.
That shot was erroneous. Wait, he was able to stand? See, that's again, you're making jokes from like 2014.
All right, Hank, your cool throne? My cool throne is Boomer. You guys touched on it a little bit in the fastest two minutes, but Boomer, just the word Boomer, has invaded meme in American culture to a point where I'm sick of it.
It's kind of jumped the shark a little bit. But now it's at one of those things where it's so mainstream.
It's like Harambe after two months where it was funny in the beginning, but once the mainstream catches on, it's an overkill of boomer. All the normies are saying boomer.
There's just so much boomer going on. Everything's a boomer.
You're a boomer. That's a boomer take.
Boomer, boomer, boomer. So boomer is just somebody...
And I don't think it's going away because of this election shit. It's just...
It's somebody that you're disagreeing with. Anyone that disagrees with you is a boomer.
If you're... Anyone that you're disagreeing with that is older than you.
So you guys are boomers to me. Yeah, we do put out...
We're the same generation. I don't know.
We put out major boomer energy sometimes. We're millennials.
So you're like disagreeing with them? Fuck you. Don't call me a boomer.
Disagreeing with Hank about being old is actually a very boomer thing to do. Exactly.
Yeah. Exactly.
I'm a true millennial because I'm saying I am a boomer. Shut up.
Uh-huh. Shut up.
It's like Socrates saying the wisest man is the man who admits he knows nothing. Exactly.
I know I'm a boomer, therefore I am not one. Yeah, I'm sick of the boomer stuff too.
I've been seeing it a lot seeing it a lot a lot and it's one of those like it's not i i don't think it's slowing down no it's not gonna slow down for a very long time which i always this is anti-boomer of me i always get really woke and i'm like maybe the boomers planted this into our culture to like be like hey what if we all started what if we made boomer a slur that millennials caught on to they're dumb don't use the hard r and then they and then they basically ruined it themselves boomer yeah they can't hire boomers as mr portnoy's a boomer boomer boomer uh how excited do you think chris berman was when he saw this trending or anyone who roots for oklahoma yeah they were probably very confused boomeroma Suna. Yeah, exactly.
All right, PFT, what do you got? My hot seat is playing songs without the artist's permission at the start of your web broadcast, whatever show that might happen to be. Because Seb Gorka got his YouTube channel suspended because he wouldn't stop playing Imagine Dragons over and over.
I think Radioactive was his theme song. Who? Sebastian Gorka, the Dragon of Budapest.
Big head. I know who he is, but I am not surprised you don't know who he is.
A lot of people do not know who he is. You have to be deep into...
No, I mean, he was in the White House for a while. He was in the Walletix, Twitter, all that stuff.
Got it. He drives a Mustang that says Art of War on the license plate.
He was a behind-the-scenes guy in getting Trump elected. And he was in the White House.
He had to be very deep into pizza gate. He was in the White House for a while.
I would say Sebastian Gorka's Q rating, if you go on the street, is not very high. Yeah, so he was playing Imagine Dragons before his YouTube shows, and they took away his entire YouTube channel because he wouldn't stop.

They kept warning him, and he kept being like,

no, I will resume playing Imagine Dragons.

So I don't know.

I think if it's Imagine Dragons,

Imagine Dragons should just be in the public domain.

There should not be copyright law.

They've got to protect their art.

Those guys make beautiful, beautiful art.

Imagine Dragons, The Beatles, Mozart.

Eddie Grant.

Happy birthday.

Mozart's paintings as well as his music.

Aha.

Good point, Hank.

Yep.

All those music songs should be free.

Those should all be in the public domain.

The Sunday night countdown.

Yep.

Yep.

Agreed.

All these things.

Actually, we have that legally.

Oh.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Let's go. And my...
Oh, Eric Church. That would imply that we have the other things illegally, which is not true.
We have everything legally. My other hot seat is humans because there's a Russian robot company that announced that they can sell replica people robots.
I saw this. So they're creating robots that mimic people.
They've got thousands of interactive features, thousands of different like little tiny robot muscles that can replicate the

way that you speak,

the way that you walk.

So they can just program a robot to take anyone's job in America.

Can we buy them?

Yeah.

I was thinking we get a Kawhi and a Jason Witten.

I was thinking we have him debate.

What if we got,

what if we got a robot that just happened to be like a junior in college who

switched from quarterback to wide receiver and had him hang out.

Thank you. Hours and hours.
You'd be like, Ernestine, you're sleeping in the other bedroom tonight. I'm fucking myself tonight.
It's just going to be me and robot skip. I don't think a robot could ever take our job.
No, they definitely could. They could train one to lose bets and the other to write shitty puns.
Instantly. Yeah.
Instantly. We're actually very susceptible to the robot apocalypse.
We are like the first ones. But I want to say to the robots, I'm on your side.
So in the future, just know I'm one of the good ones. Yeah.
I'm not a boomer. The only thing that would save me from a robot is that I don't think a robot, if you train a robot to lose all the bets and they never win, that would be a red flag.
But you can also can't train a robot to win all the bets. Like to just be shitty enough.
The most fatable robot. It's a quasi fatable robot.
I just assume every computer gets every pick right. If you this is my you have an algorithm right right right okay system um my cool throne is grit so there was a new study came out 11 000 west point cadets were surveyed over 10 years they found that grit was the most important trait for success so it beat out brains it beat out brawn now i'm like okay yeah i can get behind this that makes sense grit's very important in my life it's very important in a lot of our lives uh but then i saw who wrote the study and it was angela duckworth who is the lady that wrote the grit book she's just pushing that book she is grit exploitation she is the big grit industrial complex most of us out there learn to appreciate grit because we had to because we lack talent in sports.
And so we're like, oh, we have to point to. We might lack talent, but we're also dumb enough to not quit.
So therefore, that's a good quality. And I'm going to call it grit.
And she comes along and she sees that people are talking about too much. Now she's trying to make money off it.
She's trying to monetize grit. Not a fan.
It's very sad. But grit's also on the cool throne because the low man trophy award is coming back.

Yes.

So we're going to put out the watch list on Friday.

Yes.

The fullbacks and Tom Franelli have been contacted.

Hank.

And Hank have been contacted.

We are accumulating the first list.

Lorenzo Neal sent me his list within about 30 seconds.

Of course he did. He has been waiting since he left his studio.
He has been been waiting for this opportunity So we're going to put out the watch list On Friday And then we're going to do the award itself I think like maybe the first or second week of December We should know We should do it Yeah we should cuck the Heisman So whatever the week leading up to it Yeah Maybe Heisman Eve Yes Well that's Friday That's a Friday We're not going to work on a friday no but we could tape it on a thursday yeah we'll do that and okay put it out on the friday yeah all right my hot seat is myself because hank i would like to retract something i want to apologize the sun going down that early does suck yeah i didn't realize you need the sun oh you need the sun bro you don't need the sun you need to feel like a special down pft listen I'm talking to Hank here. Oh, you need the sun? Oh, you need the sun, bro? No, you don't need the sun.
Wait, you're a little pushy. You need to feel like a special snowflake? Just cool down, PFT.
Listen, I'm talking to Hank here. You should learn something from me and be able to say sorry once in a while.
I was on a good point. I was on a good point.
Hank for the sun was a great point. I actually admit my mistakes.
So, Hank, I'm sorry. You were right.
It did suck last night when it was like 5.15 and it got dark out. Apology my other hot seat is uh man boobs because president trump uh got a handful of kurt suzuki's and that was my worst nightmare come to life to have somebody get behind you and just cup those pepperonis listen there's not enough listen we you know everyone knows you're not allowed to you know touch a woman without consent but not a lot of people know you are not allowed to touch a man's breast without consent either because it's very sensitive unless you're like real good bros with me no even then no even then we have a guy here Dana who sometimes will flick my nipple and I want to fucking I actually want to murder him when he does it I would read a popping right now I know yeah Barstool Gold big time poppingcel gold.com slash pmt check out the nips barcel gold.com slash pmt that's why i

have four of them it's impossible to grab all at the same time yeah so i that that i saw that and

i got very triggered by just the thought of i know a lot of people were getting triggered for

political reasons i got triggered by the fact that it needs to be said more often that if

a man has larger than average breasts that doesn't mean you can cup them no means no

Now, let's go. political reasons i got triggered by the fact that it needs to be said more often that if a man has larger than average breasts that doesn't mean you can cup them no means no that's it's it is my nightmare it is my nightmare i'm sorry uh my cool throne is the chargers because they're not moving the chargers tweeted out a clip of uh leo dicaprio in wolf of wall street saying i not going anywhere.
I'm not going anywhere. The Chargers being a team that just relocated like three years ago.
And also the end of the Wolf of Wall Street, we'll recall, Leonardo DiCaprio's character was still in charge of his company and still rich and famous. Yeah.
And he didn't lie. Absolutely.
So, yeah, the awareness on this tweet. And they took the swear away, which is, like, the best part of it.
That is the best part of it. And the awareness on this tweet is at an all-time low.
You literally relocated three years ago. Yeah.
And you're talking about, we're not leaving. They're loyal.
Okay? They're loyal to the city of L.A. L.A.
probably is like, we don't even know you're here yet. Mm-hmm.
Like. That was a bad move on their part because L.A.
didn't know. So, they're, like, sticking their hand up being like, hey, we're here.
and L.A.'s like, fuck, no, leave. Yeah, shit, no, get out of here.
Please, go. That would have been great to have Phillip Rivers commuting every day to London, back and forth, back and forth.
His nine kids in London. That would be a sight to see.
But there are great nannies over there. That's true.
Let's remember that. Mary Poppins.
Mary Poppins is still there. I think, is it okay for the league to just dictate that a team leaves?

What do you mean?

Can the NFL just say, if they wanted to, yeah, Chargers, you're moving.

I think so. If they got the owners to vote.

Yeah, I think so.

So, hypothetically, this could be my out as a Redskins fan.

Just have everyone vote to move them to London?

Move Dan Snyder.

Tell them, in London, the Redskins is actually, because all of our princes have hemophilia so the blood doesn't pop up purple skins purple skin purple skin the London purple skins that would be good Dan Snyder good team go study abroad yeah get there all right my other cool throne is ones verse twos so we have Michigan State Kentucky tonight uh you probably watched that Michigan State one youBama on Saturday. Ones and twos.
And then the Jets and the Giants are playing on Sunday. So, one and two in New York City.
City. Or New Jersey.
New Jersey. In New Jersey, ones and twos.
Or you could reverse it and say in the state of New York, they're the one and two for worst. They just need to have – it should just be a cat game.
Yeah. cats it's like it's like mascot game for EA sports yeah back in the day we should just have 11 on 11 cats well 10 on 11 because Eli the cat is going to be with that by that time yeah I cannot wait we're going to get you that cat we're going to get you this cat I kind of want to go out to the stadium and try to catch it myself I'm just waiting for the tweet tomorrow morning at like 9 45 someone's gonna tweet us like some maintenance guy from from met life and be like got the cat where should i drop it off what do you think ang i don't think it's gonna happen but i'm excited for it if it does i'll say this it was a very good looking cat and it's perfect because duke is playing tonight you have your duke sweatshirt on duke's year you're fucking dukey duke duke fuck duke rude fuck duke and yeah you're gonna get a cat okay here we go john rostein we're gonna talk a little college basketball before we do that nothing melts like velveta you know it you love it velveta delivers extra creamy cheesiness especially perfect for your tailgate or game day party.
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Velveeta is the cheesiest. Velveeta is the best nothing melts like velelveeta here he is John Rostein okay we now welcome on very special guest recurring guest our good friend John Rostein he is CBS insider for college basketball college hoops today for compass media and you can find him on instagram at john rostein j-o-n dot rostein and here we go here we go well played and here we go well what do we say about november is there a catchphrase for november yeah there is well the first well it's kind of a catchphrase that gets you know shifted month to month when we have our first big time down to the wire finish you will probably see a subsequent tweet saying this is only november only november it's only november exactly so before we get into the college basketball season in a preview let's do a recap of the off season did you reconnect with people in your life you got engaged got engaged congratulations thank you um that's i made sure though that you know right after i proposed like nine minutes later that you know the date of the wedding wouldn't be around anything that can conflict with college who's more friends here so i wanted to get that out yeah well when is that when is the time of year that doesn't have in may because i know we sleep in may well we say we sleep in may but you still got transfer stuff the nba draft stuff you have to monitor you're still like prepping for the draft august is probably the quietest month but also early July it's going to be a holiday weekend it's going to be July Friday July 3rd oh you're going to make everyone give up their July 4th weekend that's right how dare you that's right well I've heard that you know holiday weekend weddings are the best type of wedding you you have not heard that from human beings oh yeah several well just two but I figured that was more than one.
No, I think the holiday weekend wedding, you can spin it however you want. It's your frame of mind.
It's your frame of mind. Because some people get upset, but where's it going to be? New York? It's going to be in New York.
Okay, that's not bad. It's going to be in New York.
We've planned a series of events that are going to feature our favorite places. My fiance, Alana, loves Bar Coastal's wings, carry style, just the red sauce that's off the menu.
If you guys have had that. Nothing you just said makes sense to us.
Bar Coastal, Kerry Style. I'm a big wing guy.
I haven't heard of this. Oh, my God.
If you guys like wings and you haven't been to Bar Coastal on 79th and 1st, then you're not living. Like, right after this year, so you've got to get to the nearest subway and go east.
Kerry Style. Off the menu.
The great John Shomby. Okay.
One of the great human beings on the planet who is an outstanding talent for espn one of my close friends once told me when i was going to barco's he's like jr you got to go carry style i've never went back carry style and i would prefer boneless boneless versus on the bone i don't know how you feel about that yeah all right big cat looks like he's doing vegan right now yeah basically he's like cam newton he's typing inoglyphics, not eating meat. Okay, so don't take offense to what I'm about to say, but I have to say it.
You strike me as a guy at your wedding, you're going to have multiple cutouts of coaches being like, hey, Mike, Coach K came. And you're going to take a picture with Coach K.
Now, if I had any say over anything other than the food or the band, that would that would be a major shock i put in my two cents about the food i put in my two cents about the band just the type of songs we want to hear that's it tell me what are the type of songs you like you know probably a little bit more old school hip-hop than you would think you know it makes a little bit of stuff that you can move around to a little bit but like it's funny it's going yeah exactly but it's funny you know because you know you think about all this stuff and you're doing the planning before the season starts but since the preseason you just start you know waking up and asking yourself the question can the american conference get four bids in the NCAA tournament right we're all talking about yeah everyone is asking that what's the over under at how many college coaches are going to attend the wedding I don't think a lot of people will attend because it's July it's the recruiting period so on and so forth but forth. But, you know.
There'll be invites. Maybe we'll do a pregame show here on Pardon My Day.
Yeah, that would be great. We're in for it.
I'm kind of curious because you were a singularly focused individual on college basketball. It's what you've always wanted to do.
It's what you eat, you sleep, you breathe. Going into a partnership like a wedding, like a marriage, have you had a conversation with your fiance about, here's what you can expect from me.
I will be attentive through the months of July and August, and then the rest of the year I'm focused on college basketball. It was one of the first conversations that we had.
When I met my fiance, Alana, she was living on the Upper West Side, so we always used to go, when I wasn't working, to Dakota Bar to hang out. If I wanted to watch a game and she wanted to hang out because i knew there were tvs there so i knew like friday night big 10 i could watch iowa illinois and so on and so forth so i just kind of said like right away just so you know from the start of november until the end of the final four i'm going to be working every day my phone's always going to be out i'm not ignoring you i'm going to need tvs on if you can obviously deal with that then i'll be like a normal civilian starting like that probably that tuesday or maybe a couple days after yeah considering some news and she's like i can deal with that as long as when the season's over she's very close to her college friends that went to usc with her you have to go with me for a week to southern california you can do a little you can go see mick cronin that's right yeah you guys are boys with him you did a podcast in the, exactly.
More consistent than a few good men on a rainy Sunday. There it is.
What we always say about him. Last thing before we get to the preview, I heard you on CBS Sports, the radio, when I was driving in on a Sunday.
You were doing the halftime show for the NFL, updating the stats. You were a professional.
You are a professional. But it sounded like you just didn't have the love in it does it hurt you when you have to read nfl stat sheets being like this isn't college basketball look i think it's important and you know i started in this business like the backbone and the foundation was talk radio so i had to you know talk about other sports so as a broadcaster you kind of refine those skills but you know where my bread is butter yeah I could tell it just didn't sound the same it sounded like you were you know not going through the motions but just the love wasn't in your voice like when Adam Schefter goes to the NBA side yeah you were doing a great job you didn't make any mistakes but I could just tell if you know John Rossi and you knew that he was probably thinking about can the AAC get four bids this year no question but you still have to be a professional when you know the microphone is on and you're on assignment no doubt about that but I do want to thank also the people at Compass Media for you know doing all that they've done with my podcast over the past couple years we're up you know we're over 200 episodes hey you're a professional um all right so let's do it let's let's dive in it is November we have the uh if listening to this right now, it's right – we're going to air this on Wednesday, which is right after the big games at Madison Square Garden.
So let's start with those teams. This is now going to be a decade since Duke has won an ACC title outright.
Is Coach K coaching for his job? I mean, that's a decade. It's a good question.
A decade since they have won an ACC title shared or outright. But they did win a national championship.
No, no, no, no. It's not the same, though.
We know all the ACC countries. Hold on a sec.
If you're in North Carolina, you need to win the ACC. Hold on a sec.
Would you, as a Wisconsin fan, would you trade any Big Ten championships? All of them. That's all about winning the conference.
Everyone always says that. Win your conference.
Keep talking to yourself. First goal.
Keep talking to yourself. We want to win our conference.
They never hit their first goal. They literally have never hit their first goal in the last decade.
You're just saying this because your heart is still broken from what happened in 2015. That's also true.
He's not telling a lie about that. Your heart was broken.
But at the start of a season, it always says we want to win our conference. Yes.
Maybe first it says we want to win at home. We want to defend our home court throughout the season.
We don't want to lose two games in a row in conference. Number three, we want to win our conference.
They just skipped that step. I think actually anything they've won past that step should be irrelevant.
That is fine. That's your opinion.
It doesn't matter, though, because Duke won a national championship in 2010. They won a national championship in 2015.

I do want to point this out, though.

The Duke team that we saw last year really redefined positionless basketball.

You're going to see a much more conventional Duke team this season.

More white guys.

Some of those, but they're going to be more conventional, I think,

just in terms of not necessarily that, but players that play a certain position. It's bad a certain position instead of the Barrett, Zion, Reddish thing.
You get AOC. You get Alex O'Connell playing out there.
Who is their big guy? Who's the guy we're going to be buffing about? Well, Vernon Carey is a talented freshman who will be their five-man, and at the four, you'll have a combination of Matthew Hurt, a pick-and-pop four with Javin Delorier. That's the guy that people are going to hate.
Javin Delorier? Matthew Hurt. Oh, Matthew Hurt? Matthew Hurt.
Then on the perimeter, they've got a number of players. Wendell Moore and Cassius Stanley, two freshmen, and of course, Trey Jones.
All right, I'm looking up Matthew Hurt right now. Let's see how punchable his face is.
That's the first question I have. I have a feeling, yeah.
Oh, my God. Fuck this guy.
I'm going to want to punch that guy. Holy shit.
Yo, fuck that guy. Uh-huh.
No. Yeah.
No. Absolute stud.
He looks like a bass player in a late 90s pup punk. Oh, my God.
Look at it. He looks like Mandis' brother, but he's a stud.
But I hate this kid. Okay.
Good to have the hate back. It looks like he wears sweaters and beanies in 75-degree weather.
You know what? Part of me thinks like, hey, these are college kids. hate them because you know they're amateurs all that probably listen to the show matthew hurt though no matthew hurt knew exactly what he was getting when he went to duke he knew he was going to be the hated duke guy like that's a that is a contract that he signed and i literally mean signed because coach k pays his players so are you still on the thing that he paid the refs in 2015? Do you still believe that? Of course he did, John.
You're a smart guy. Do you think some coaches out there are using Cash App, Venmo? I don't think it's that blatant.
I don't think it's that blatant. It's the old brown vanilla envelope.
What was the thing in blue chips? Somebody's going to buy you a tractor. And then the guy showed with the USA Today bag, he goes, you Rick Rowe? And he goes, yeah.
And he goes, so on and so forth. And then, you know, it was a duffel bag.
It was a duffel bag. There was a tractor in a later scene, I believe.
I've had this take kind of bubbling for the last couple years. I got laughed at the first time I brought it up, if you can believe that on this podcast.
Laughed at. I think that Coach K is not as good a head coach as Coach Williams is.

Interesting.

I think if you look at what Coach Williams...

That's a nice way of laughing in your face.

No, because if you look at what he's done,

Coach K's tenure at Duke while Roy Williams has been at UNC,

by any measurement, you can say that Roy Williams has been more successful.

You want to hear something amazing, though?

And this is something I remember I was doing an interview with Coach Knight. Maybe it was eight years ago, and he brought this up.
You know, we value so much when we're talking sports or people in our society. Obviously, winning national championships, getting the Final Fours, all that stuff.
In a one-game tournament like the NCAA tournament, you know this, the level of separation is so small. It's not seven game series since 1984 and I need to double check this but I'm pretty sure I'm right since 84 okay Duke has missed the NCAA tournament one time when Coach K was hurt that year yeah the back injury oh yeah we know what I'm but what I'm saying is and you know we'll double check that I I believe 84 is the year.
That's amazing that every year they've been in the NCAA tournament. That's amazing, just the fact that they've gotten to the tournament.
It's obviously amazing that they've won five national championships and they're going for a six this year, but that's just an unbelievable accomplishment. How many does Roy have? Three.
Three. Five.
Three. Now, if you think about it, too, when you're a coach this long and you're this successful, there's always what-ifs when it comes to Roy Williams.
What if Wayne Simeon didn't get hurt in 2003 when they played Syracuse? Now, Jeff Graves, the backup who stepped in in the starting lineup, had a great game against Syracuse. That should also be pointed out.
But if that Wayne Simeon injury doesn't happen, something could be different. What are you looking up right now? Just want to make sure that 84 was the first year

that coach could. He's fact-checking

himself, folks. That's a move

we don't take. Yeah, 84.
One miss

since 84. Alright, so

you said interesting to PFT's

first hot take. Let's do his second one

that Tom Izzo's overrated.

Tom Izzo is overrated.

That's PFT's other. Okay, why do you think he's overrated?

He just hasn't won the big one in a while.

He's coasting.

He's coasting off. There's no way

Thank you. Tom Izzo is overrated.
That's PFT's other thing. Okay, why do you think he's overrated? He just hasn't won the big one in a while.
He's coasting. He's coasting off.
There's no way to say that without coming across as a dude like, he just hasn't won the big one. Saying Tom Izzo is overrated is like saying the Godfather epic is overrated.
Well, Godfather 3 is kind of trash, and that's where he's at in his trilogy right now. The Godfather epic is not including the Godfather 3.
It's a chronological breakdown of the Godfathers 1 and 2 chronologically because we have obviously a prequel kind of in the start of Godfather 2. This is the thing, though, I want to point out about Tom Izzo.
We have seen injuries devastate certain programs. A lot of people were worried in 14-15 who were Wisconsin alums when Trayvon Jackson went down that you know wisconsin wasn't gonna be the same team think about this for a second in 2010 kaylin lucas went down with injury michigan state still went to a final four they lost to butler in the national semifinals last year josh langford the starting shooting guard from michigan state goes down with injury.
His backup, Kyle Lawrence, goes down with injury,

and Michigan State still goes to a Final Four.

Can't be overrated if that's happening.

He's mean to his players.

That whole Aaron Henry thing, that was ridiculous.

But they're ranked number one.

Do you think that they're going to live up to that ranking?

Because I always feel like this is a different year where we don't have one of those Kentucky or Dukes. Or Wisconsin.
No, but there's no Decker-Kaminsky team right now. No, but I'm saying, yeah, but what I really mean is like there's no, it feels like in the past few years it's been either Kentucky, Duke, maybe even Kansas throw in there, or UNC where it's like, oh, they got four of the top 10 recruits.
They're not going to lose. Well, let's put it this way for a second.
You look at, obviously, college basketball across the board, and you look at the last couple of national champions. The one thing we've always looked at that's been synonymous with all these champions is they've each had at least one, maybe two, long-time pros.
Michigan State's the consensus number one team in the country. You don't see a long-time pro in their starting lineup.
I mean, the Duke team in 2015 loaded with pros. 2016 Villanova loaded with pros.
Carolina in 17, Joel Berry, Justin Jackson. 18 Villanova loaded with pros.
This past year, Virginia, Ty Jerome, Kyle Guy. You don't see that on Michigan State in their number one.
I think we are going to have breakthroughs this season. I think we are going to have an unbelievable balance across the board.
I mean, think about this for a second. Last year, okay, we had an unbelievable season in the ACC and the SEC.
13 of the ACC's top 20 scores from last year are gone, and 15 of the SEC's top 20 scores are gone there has been a passage in college basketball who is next in line we'll have to tune in day in day out damn damn I like that they Cassius Winston coming back yeah so what's his future look like as a pro because a lot of people are saying like he's not going to cut it it's not going to happen well let's enjoy Cassius Winston as a senior point guard first. But, you know, we look at, and it's a good point, PFC, you look at, obviously, people who are dynamic at the lead guard spot in college basketball as being somebody that we gravitate to because that's the position in the sport that you have to have.
The guy who might have the most dynamic guard in college basketball is your buddy Tom Crean. Anthony Edwards could be the number one pick in the 2020 NBA draft.
I had Tom Crean on my podcast last month, and I asked him, how does he compare to two other guys that you've coached, Wade and Oladipo? And he told me that from a physical perspective, he's never been around any player like Anthony Edwards. And Tom Crane, as you guys know, as detail-oriented, as focused as anybody.
My line for him is he's more focused than Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive. We know how focused Tommy Lee Jones is.
We all know that. We all know that.
Everyone who's listening to this knows that. Right.
So, I mean, he's always excelled at player development. But that, to me, makes Georgia a team now that if they're playing and saying,

well, they could have number one pick on their team.

The underrated game of Thanksgiving week, which is the great week.

Feast week.

Feast week, where we have games on top of games.

Georgia against Dayton.

Maui.

First round Maui.

Anthony Edwards of Georgia against another guy who could blow up

and rise on draft boards this year, Obi Toppin of Dayton. Okay.
And, and we have Tom cream going back to Hawaii. So we get to see him in the, you know, a Hawaiian shirt, which is always great.
He, he blends in perfectly with the Hawaiian shirt. He looks like he's ready to go to Jimmy Buffett.
It's so great looking. His face gets a little bit redder, even in the lay, just spectacular sight.
What's up? Tell us what's up with Cal this year in Kentucky. I feel like there's a simmering like, hey, it's been a couple years since Kentucky's really been one of those, you know, they're always in the mix.
Yeah, always in the mix. But it has felt a little different the last few years with Kentucky.
What's this team going to look like? Dynamic guard play Ashton Higgins obviously pound for poundage do you know it's my job man no I know but like how many names I've never I've never I've never I've never counted but I just know I wake up everybody and thinking it's my responsibility right for one of the great hosts at CBS Sports Adam Zucker Brent Stover Dana Jacobson if they I've got to be ready. Could you name the starting five for every single team in college basketball?

I don't know about every single team in college basketball,

but I think power conference-wise, yeah.

I had a list, actually, because I am always blown away by your depth of knowledge.

I just had some teams that I was going to throw out.

Can you name two players from FIU?

FIU.

They had some departures, so not yet. Washington.
Yeah, of course. Go.
Kwade Green. Yep.
Jamal Bay. Mm-hmm.
Nas Carter. You could be making all of these up.
Jaden McDaniels. Isaiah Stewart.
Sam Timmons. Mm-hmm.
Elijah Hardy. It's bullshit that Washington is playing zone, by the way.
No, Nate Roberts. Nate Roberts.
That's bullshit. Why is it bullshit they're playing zone? Because you can't switch it up like that.
They're playing Syracuse's zone, and now they slow it down. Well, he did obviously work for Mike Hopkins.
Right. UVM.
Oh, absolutely. Steph Smith, Ernie Duncan, Daniel Giddens, Anthony Lamb, Duncan DeMuth.
What about their radio host? Play-by-play. Can you name him?

No, but Tom Brennan, I know.

Oh, damn.

Their host is Jake Marsh.

You don't know their radio play-by-play guy?

Who's their radio play-by-play guy?

Jake Marsh.

You don't know?

No.

Oh.

He's an up-and-comer.

Up-and-rising guy in the biz.

His signature call.

Look out for him.

Who are you looking up right now?

That's what he says.

I just wanted to see who's eligible to FIU.

I wanted to make sure.

But before I say anything on the air.

Oh, my God. St.
John's transfer C.D. Kata is there.
Oh, okay. What about Uwe Pui? Uwe Pui? Yeah.
Is that even a real team? Indiana University of Purdue, University of Indiana. Oh, IUPUI.
Ever since Ron Hunter left, I've kind of went off the grid. Of course.
Classic. You should check out Jake Marsh's reel, though.
We'll send it to you. He was our intern over the summer.
Really? He was the voice radio of Vermont Catamount basketball radio. I want to get back real quick.
You said that you were talking about Kentucky. I think you kind of glossed over the fact they lost Brad Calipari.
Are they going to be able to cover the swag on the sidelines? Is he at Detroit? Well, he's at Detroit playing for Mike Davis. You know, one thing I think you need to look at with Kentucky in terms of the questions I have is interior scoring.
They could bully people inside last year with Travis, with P.J. Washington.
Now you're in a scenario where you have a team that looks like it's going to be paced by its backcourt. Every well-embedded mole I talked to in Lexington this summer raved about emmanuel quickly we talked about ashton hagan's defensively you look at obviously tyrese maxi you're looking at a player that has the ability as a freshman to be first team all sec players so it'll be interesting to see what transpires with kentucky but i don't know if they're head and shoulders above the sec hank or liam after this interview can we do a supercut of just all the names that john says and just like a ding and we'll get all the names all right i have i wanted to go through some rostin isms and you can just well there's going to be some new ones this season oh i was kind of hoping you guys could help maybe workshop maybe do it maybe like come up with one now this is one thing i want to talk to you about people have told me okay that they think that less words is better just because it's a little trickier so if you're going to come up with one your voice no mate no for the for the slogans oh got it got it got it got it i thought they were just saying like hey john stop talking no yeah um all right so less words the better for the slogan for the slogans and what what where where do you want to go with it like where are your weak spots yeah i mean you got you guys decide like somebody you want to make you know a slogan for for somebody who's uh not obviously i wouldn't mind if you did so you have the vcu what was the vcu you want more life alternate 10-day trip to europe right what about i think hell in the cell something like a hell in the cell so some kind of uh when you go to this place it's's like Hell in the Cell.
It's like facing Undertaker in Hell in the Cell. Like Mankind, King of the Ring, 1998.
Yeah, right. Jim Ross on the call.
That was when we brought the thumbtack, right? Yes, yes. And Mankind basically died.
So you should come up with something like that. Like going to, I don't know, Bloomington in March is like facing Undertaker in Hell in the Cell.
I don't know if Bloomington would be the best one for that. How about something for UCLA, for Mick Cronin out there? We already have more consistent than a few good millions.
How about Vermont? Damone Carrigan, too, is the guy. Yeah, you want to do Vermont? How about Vermont? How about Vermont? I mean, Hell in the Cell is just a good one.
Yeah, Hell in the Cell is just a good one for anyone. You can put that anywhere.
Well, I think if you would have to make that synonymous with a brand of basketball, not like a coach. It's not like Greg Gard, Silent Assassin.
So who's Hell in a Cell? I mean, that's why I came to you guys. What about Georgia? Do you have anything for Georgia? Well, Tom Green, when I tweet, more focus on Tommy Lee Jones and the Fugitive.
What about my guy, Muspuss in Arkansas? That's a good one. I love him.
So let's get something for him. Have you seen his recruiting tactic? It's been great, where he takes the iconic pictures with potential recruits.
Have you seen this? Yeah, no. Okay.
Nobody, I don't think, has done a better job embracing social media than Eric Musselman at Nevada and now at Arkansas. And I actually think they're a dangerous team in terms of their perimeter in the SEC, but I'm worried they don't know if anybody can get a rebound.
Okay, well, let's think of something for them. They play fast pace.
They're running up and down. They're shooting threes.
Fuck. Speed.
Like speed. Something with speed.
Oh, yes. This bus.
Eric Musselman with Keanu Reeves of the SEC. The bus doesn't go below 60 miles an hour.
Yeah. this must bus goes faster than

Keanu Reeves of the SEC? The bus doesn't go below 60 miles an hour. Yeah, this must bus goes faster than Keanu Reeves in the thriller Speed 1993.
I'll get back to you on that. Whatever, workshop that.
Yeah, I like that. Make sure you put the date so we know when Speed came out.
Okay. 1993.
So we know how much you've dated your reference. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So I have some Rossina is is isms that I want to throw out there.

You,

you assigned the team this year.

Okay.

Appointment television to be determined.

Who's going to be appointment television.

You got to tell me you got to have a team.

It could be Florida with Mike white.

Okay.

It could be Florida.

They have blackshear,

right?

They have carry blackshear.

Yes.

That's I,

when you just did the whole ACC,

sec losing top scores,

you didn't mention that one went from the ACC to sec. Okay.
That that's why I have you. Big assist to you, Stockton.
What about Palpable Buzz? Palpable Buzz Williams. Yeah, but who's got the, so you think Texas A&M's got the buzz? Well, no, but he automatically, after every win, gets the tweet because his name is Buzz, so it's Palpable Buzz Williams.
I see what you did there. Do you think that was a good move for him? I mean, it's tailor-made for him.

It's tailor-made for him.

I mean, you think about it.

He was at Marquette, a basketball-centric school, did a great job.

Went to Virginia Tech, a school that was known more for its football,

did a great job.

Now he has a school that's had success in both,

and it's right in his recruiting breadbasket.

Who's the silent assassin this year?

Greg Gardner.

Still?

Still.

How are the Badgers going to be for real? Look, this is... I'm worried.
Returning perimeter is back. That's a good thing.
I talked to Greg Gard over the summer in the AAU tournament. He told me he felt like Reavers could take that Wisconsin-type leap.
Like we've seen other people do in the past. Berger and Kaminsky, the list goes on and on.
And they're very high on Micah Potter to make a big impact up front but anytime Big Cat you look at a team that has returning guards in college basketball yep and they've got Pritzel, Trice, Davidson they have guys Colby King has been through the gamut so you know you have obvious hope and you have a system to it Wisconsin where you don't turn it over and you don't foul so So you think they'll make the tournament? I think Wisconsin will be an NCAA tournament team.

Give me the top five in the Big Ten this year.

I think, honestly, it's Michigan State, Maryland, and everybody else.

Out of all the players, from a physical perspective, that has made the biggest jump that I've seen

that looks like a different player, looks like a pro, Aaron Wiggins at Maryland.

Aaron Wiggins, to me, physically looks like Allen Houston right now.

Ooh.

Yeah.

And I will say this.

Allen Houston hasn't played in the NBA in, like, 20 years. I'll just say from a physical perspective.
Don't forget the great Knicks. There have been like three great Knicks in the last 25 years.
But here's the interesting thing. If you watch, like I watch Michigan State and Maryland practice.
From a physical perspective, Maryland, okay, is more physically imposing. Like Jalen Smith looks more like a pro.
Aaron Wiggins looks more like a pro than anybody in Michigan State's roster. I think you have Michigan State and Maryland at the top of the Big Ten.
But then, like I said, Matt Painter is the new Bo Ryan. So regardless of who he has, he's going to win 20 to 25 games every year.
So it's death taxes Matt Painter. Can you tell our friend Scott Van Pelt that this is Maryland's year to get back to the Final Four? There has been no better time, in my opinion, I think maybe since Maryland went to the Sweet 16 and lost to Michigan State in 2003, a year after winning the national championship, than it's been for Maryland to get to a Final Four this year.
Because this is the way I look at it. The team in 2016 that started, Mello Trimble, Rasheed Suleiman, Jake Lehman, Robert Carter, Diamond Stone.

That team took some cash-o-locked.

That was a rough recruiting loss for you.

That was a rough recruiting loss for you.

But that team was built to play in another era of college basketball because they were so big.

This team can downshift.

You can play big.

You can play small.

You've got a potential All-American, an All-Big Ten player, an Anthony Cowan in the the backcourt you have jalen smith who i put on my second team preseason all-american you know in the frontcourt and you have other players that can emerge like an aaron wiggins like a daryl morsel who's one of the great glue guys in the sport who literally fills the mortar between the bricks so you've got you've got a lot to work with right now if you're a maryland fan well so i'm I'm happy to hear that because Maryland needs to start pulling their weight in the Big Ten. And they don't do it in football.
So the whole reason we brought them in was to be basketball. Have you guys seen a basketball game at Maryland? No.
I tweet it sometimes because the atmosphere is unbelievable. It's like you go there and you think College Park is the spring break capital of the Northeast.
Whoa. Like it is on fire there for games.
You don't strike me as a guy who's ever been on spring break never been on spring break what was not uh my father wouldn't allow me to go when i was a senior in high school and then i was only in college three years so i uh that's right okay because you dropped out what no i finished early oh that's yeah i wasn't on a seven year break never been on a european vacation well here's actually here's that go did you go here's actually a wrinkle we've obviously been discussing like potential places for the honeymoon and you're like can we keep it in the tri-state area honey and the truth is no it's like it looks like it's going to be in 2020 i am going to go to europe it looks like italy and greece so i've got it i've got to make sure that i understand like you know the time zone stuff as best i can and also i want to make sure that my phone, like, you know, the time zone stuff as best I can. And also, I want to make sure that my phone gets, like, you know, the proper service.
Because, like, you never know what could break. You'll be fine.
You'll be fine. But it's like another thing, too.
You know what? Give us your phone while you go. No way.
We'll take care of it. Yeah, we'll take care of it.
You can probably handle it. You can have access to my Twitter account.
We'll handle it. Yeah, we'll tweet.
You can just schedule out in advance. Right.
When you wake up in the morning. What is it? Stay hungry, stay humble.
Yeah, we'll handle it. We can handle it.
Every day is a gift. Art lovely.
We will break all the news. PFT's dog breaks news all the time.
It's pretty easy. Is that Leroy? Yeah, you're familiar with Leroy.
Yeah, it sounds like you've gotten some scoops from him. Yeah, Leroy's good people.
Yeah, he beat you to a scoop last year. I forget exactly.
It was some sort of transfer, I think. He gets half of him right, half of him wrong.
One thing, though, I've got to tell you. I'm saying this because you look like you're on a vegan diet right now.
You've lost so much weight. You said that.
That's mean every time you say it. Sorry half of right.
One thing, though, I got to tell you, I'm saying this because, you know, you look like you're on, you know, a vegan diet.

Yeah, you said that.

That's mean every time you say it.

Sorry.

You look right.

You're in.

That's all I know.

I went on an F factor diet over the summer.

I dropped 20.

The F factor diet.

What is I know you guys do a lot of pizza reviews.

What is the F factor?

High fiber.

High fiber.

Shit all summer.

What?

Well, you know, it's kind of like you have to work your way into that.

But what I'm saying, but I know you do a lot of pizza reviews yeah and like you know i've gotten into cauliflower pizza that's disgusting no it's really good people say cauliflower pizza they say cauliflower wings cotton no not cauliflower mashed potatoes but like i'm curious just to see like just how good the food is in italy it's better than cauliflower pizza you I'm sure it better if they say if you say cauliflower pizza over there they will murder you and it's actually not against the law yeah i also think if you go to italy you have to come back you're legally obligated to come back and be like oh i gained like 15 pounds yeah well i mean you know there's gonna be pasta making classes and all that will you be wearing your suits when you go on your honeymoon well i only wear my suit because of one story when i was a young broadcaster you know i learned that there was always you know an opportunity to make a first impression you never get a chance to make a second chance to make a first impression when i was a young broadcaster i was doing radio for espn radio new york when i was working for the msg network it was before i went to cbs and, and I was doing updates part of the time on Michael Kay's afternoon drive show. Number one.
Yeah. So he told me.
That was a good inside New York joke. That Brian Williams was going to come in and take a tour of the studio, and I said, well, if Brian Williams is going to come in, I've got to wear a suit.
And I never after that made sure. I always made sure that I was in a situation where I wore a suit if I had a chance to make a first impression what's your dry cleaning bill like it gets up there up there during the season yeah imagine she's up there during the season but go ahead it would be something if your fiance said that you're going to Europe and then she just took you to Richmond you went to VCU's campus yeah she's like life-altering yeah life-altering like it's exactly like Europe.
Yeah. Did you see Batman? Are you Joker? No, I did not.
You did not? Yeah. So you didn't see it? I don't think movies are as good anymore.
I just don't see them. But yeah.
I don't know. I just think I wish there was more.
I'd like to see The Irishman if it came out over the summer. But now it's basketball season.
Does that come out on Netflix? Yeah, it's on your TV. You don't have to even go out in public.
But it's still basketball season. So it's like you have a choice between watching like a college basketball game or the Irishman you're always gonna take a college basketball game here's a here's a modern one you can do and I haven't even seen this movie but whatever team is a juggernaut that's just crushing people like uh if a team doubles up on another team beats them uh 70 to 35 you can say that coach Thanos snap okay and then you just destroy him I remember remember when Wichita State was ripping through the Missouri Valley like a chainsaw through butter.
My one line of that season was Wichita State is like the Ivan Drago of the MVC, whatever it hits destroys. So you tried to give him something that was topical.
And then you brought it back to 1980s. Just Thanos snap.
Or this just hit the top of my head, Eric Musselman, he runs a full court press.

That's tough to deal with.

The Arkansas full court press, like being buried up to your neck in fire ants.

Interesting.

Okay, that's a no.

That was a no.

That was a hard no.

Here's the thing that I've learned.

You can't force it.

Sometimes it's like, oh, you have one line.

Like certain ones.

I feel like your entire thing is forcing it. not to him though no you you beat us down with it till we love it right but there are certain ones that aren't going to resonate i think danos snap would catch on with the kids i think or you could do a like so and so coach doesn't feel so good and then put the thanos snap gif in there okay I don't know how to use gifs yeah all right uh that's I mean they're not surprising you did get on Instagram since last we saw you I did get on Instagram at John.Rothstein at John.Rothstein big big come up for you big come up I honestly like I had no idea probably till like two years ago that existed it's huge it's massive It's massive.
It's massive. My last question, SeatGeek question, promo code TAKE, $10 off.
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Pac-12. Tell me about the Pac-12.
I need the Pac-12 to be back because I love the late-night Thursday game, the late-night Saturday game, the Conference of Champions, but it's been bad. It has been bad, and I need to come back because I need to have a reason to watch those late Thursday games with Bill Wald.
Well, the Pac-12 to me is set up to have a bounce-back season. I mean, great recruiting class is in place at USC, Arizona, and Washington.
The top eight of the league right now is as well positioned i think to have a great representation in the ncaa tournament arizona state's probably going to shift back to the play they went the way they played two years ago small ball incredibly fast paced love it remy martin you know they switched last year they went to a more traditional style every single time i bet on them did not know that. I always kept on.
What's your plus minus for college basketball season? Minus. Minus? Minus, minus.
Big time? Yeah, minus, minus. All right, so Arizona State.
So how many teams from the Pac-12 are going to be in the team? I think it's set up to be a four or five bid league. Which was last year, two? Yeah, two.
Barely. Barely two.
They had a team in the playing game. Yeah, they needed Washington to win the.
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing you look at. There's question marks in the ACC.
There's question marks in the SEC. The Big East, to me, is as balanced as it's been since realignment.
So what happens then if you're balanced 1 through 10? Cannibalization at an Anthony Hopkins caliber level. There you go.
Silence of Lent, yeah. Hannibal, very bad.
It's on digital cable all the time, by the way. It is digital cable.
You love that movie? No, it's a bad sequel. Oh, yeah.
Not Silence of the Lens, a classic. But Red Dragon is great.
I don't think I've ever seen Red Dragon. Red Dragon's really good.
Oh, my God. Edward Norton.
I don't think I've ever seen it. John.
There's a lot of nude crouching in it, but besides that, it's strong. John, you have to watch Red Dragon.
It is so good. I'll get to it in April.
It's the third. But to pick up where I said about the Big East, so if you are going to have all these question marks and all these power conferences, somebody has to eat up the bids.
So that's why there's going to be a lot of opportunities for other leagues to do that. The AAC is going to get four.
Well, the South Florida injury news today did not help with Alexa. I was saying that.
No, Alexis Yetna was the top returning post player in the American conference.

You don't have to mansplain.

We know that.

We were talking about it on lunch today.

Who doesn't know Alexis Yetna?

All right, so let's finish with this.

Give us – oh, I did write down.

Did you ever get – did we last time talk about TSA pre-check?

Did you get clear yet?

I got clear.

It's unbelievable.

Okay, so now it's more life-changing. No, clear is T is tsa pre-check on steroids right so have you been tweeting that oh absolutely you're not following me no i do follow you but i can't keep up with everything so you have been tweeting about clear clear is tsa pre-check on steroids and tsa pre-check is more life altering than that's just like it used to be tsa pre-check life altering now it's just clear tsa pre-check on stuff you know you can use clear at you can get into like some uh some arenas using clear now really have it there you can bypass the line it's great um all right so last question give me my national champion haven't seen a bracket yet come on give me like give me the three all right do it this way give me the five teams that can win a national title you know obviously it obviously it's going to depend on what trend.
I would say right now Michigan State and Kansas look like to me they're highly formidable. I think that Florida has a chance to take a major step in the SEC this year.
We talked about interior scoring with Kerry Black's year. I'm going to say Maryland.
Okay. Because I like the roster versatility.
Damn. And then if I gotta give you one more, I am going...
UVM. No.
I'm gonna see Vermont November 16th though against St. John's.
You can say how to Jake Marsh then. I can say Jake Marsh.
I can give you like off the radar final four picks. Would that be good? Yes.
Give us the teams that are, yeah, the long shots.

But like good enough.

Right.

If I was going to give you off the radar final four picks,

I would go Baylor.

Okay.

Washington.

Yep.

Seton Hall.

Mm-hmm.

Florida State.

I'm going to take some futures on these.

Yep.

And then there was one more I had.

Let me think right here. LSU.
LSU. LSU.
Okay. That brings up something I want to ask about.
Will Wade, the Frank Lucas of college basketball. Of course.
Yeah, Will Wade. What's going on down there? Because they had a weird season last year.
There were suspensions. At some point, they just shrugged their shoulders, and I guess Will Wade's coming back.
I mean, he's, you know, there's no actual, from what we've been seeing, you know, what we've seen, there's no actual proof of anything. So, I mean, that's kind of obviously, I think the issue when you go through these investigations is what do you have tangible proof of? And Will Wade, you know, gets back, Javante Smart and Skyler Mays.
They add Trendon Watford, their, you know, five-star freshman. That's a team, you know, you think about their backcourt with smart and with maze when tremont waters didn't play last year against tennessee they beat tennessee so the same backcourt is back i would say right now if you want to look at just some quick hitters for just you know the casual college basketball you know scene right now we got five dark horses we just went through that can make the final four.
Five teams who should be vastly improved, okay? Georgia, UTEP, New Mexico, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State under Mike Boynton. Five teams who could overachieve.
Oklahoma State will always get that one win against Kansas because Bill Self gives them one. You got it.
That does happen. Five teams that could overachieve in 1920, okay? UCLA and A&M because of the coaching kansas state nebraska year one under fred hoiber pinnacle bank arena underrated already sold out and st john's with mike anderson now how about five teams on the rise okay georgetown colorado penn state dayton and again i had south list.
That was before the Alexis had an injury. I'm still reeling.
Ten mid-majors to watch this season. Western Kentucky with Rick Stansberry returning Charles Bassey, a 14-10-2 guy in Conference USA.
Vermont's on the list with the Duncan brothers, Steph Smith, and, of course, Daniel Giddens and Anthony Lamb up front yeah Harvard most talented Ivy League roster I've ever covered Tommy Amaker's

still there yeah Tommy Amaker's still there eight high major players you look at Harvard you see a

team that has the chops to be a second weekend type team in the NCAA tournament talent wise

I'm not saying it's gonna match you want a name to remember right now for Harvard Noah Kirkwood

if Noah Kirkwood was at Virginia he'd regularly be compared to Malcolm Brogdon Liberty it's not to mesh. You want a name to remember right now for Harvard, Noah Kirkwood.
If Noah Kirkwood was at Virginia, he'd regularly be compared to Malcolm Brogdon. Liberty.
It's not really an oversight. It's an insult that Richie McKay's club is not getting more attention.
Return Caleb Holmesley beat Mississippi State last year in NCAA tournament. New Mexico State, St.
Mary's, South Alabama, the only team in college basketball who returns five players who have averaged at least 14 points a game in their college career. Can you name them? Five players? Yeah.
Don Coleman is one. Trey Mitchell, Sunbelt Preseason Player of the Year is another.
Andre Fox is a name to keep an eye on. He was sensational against Mississippi State in the charity exhibition.
Colgate, and here's one thing to think about Colgate. Remember they took Tennessee to the wire last year in the round of 64.
They have their top five scorers back. Matt Langell, great young coach.
Utah State obviously won the Mountain West last year. And Missouri State, who is another team that a lot of people should look at.
Do you guys want 10 glue guys to watch? Yeah. Yeah, give me 10.
10 glue guys to watch here on my list. Kihei Clark at Virginia.
Barbaro. Dwayne Sutton at Louisville.
Xavier Simpson at Michigan. I mean, he's unbelievable for them.
Andre Wesson at Ohio State, who again was a player they couldn't take off the floor towards the end of the season. Darryl Morsell at Maryland.
Quincy McKnight at Seton Hall. Marcus Garrett at Kansas.
Marcus Santos Silva at VCU anchors the defense. Nojel Eastern at Purdue and Rex Pfluger at Notre Dame.
Keep going. I've got right here 10 key players returning from injury.
Ooh. Tiger Campbell and Sharif O'Neal at UCLA.
Yudoka Azabuki at Kansas. Jaquan Lyle at New Mexico.
Tristan Clark of Baylor. Andrew Jones at Texas.
Justin Minai at South Carolina. Seth Towns at Harvard.
And again, Rex Pfluger at Notre Dame. I hate Azebuki.
Why? He can't hit a fucking free throw. He's unguardable on the block.
You left one out. And he can't hit a free throw.
Alexi Yetja. Yeah.
Seth Flora. You remembered that.
Yeah. He's coming back from injury.
You're on it, BFB. Uh-huh.
Yes. Yes.
You've never been to Bar Coastal, really? Never been to Bar Coastal. I've got to go there.
I've got to go. I'm a big wing guy.
I'm a connoisseur. I've been to the best wing place in New York, but I've never heard of that one.
Do you already have been to that you go to that you love Campagnola? Very good. Very good.
There's other Italian places, too, on east side you know that i got a great place primola 64th and second elio's even what do you have to go to campagnola uh i've had the chicken parm i think i've had the veal as well you know they give me a really great feel beforehand yeah the tri pasta appetizer at campagnola is more life-altering than clear or tsa pre-check they do a tri pasta appetizer They do like a penne with a red sauce and a porcini and a white mushroom and a gnocchi with a pesto. It's to dive for.
Say gnocchi again? Gnocchi. Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, they should actually have a clear at some restaurants to get you at the front of the line. You're going to be that annoying guy on your honeymoon that tries to say everything correctly in Italy.
You think so? Yeah, I know so. Have you guys been abroad? A couple times.

Yeah, a few times here and there.

Anything you recommend over there?

Amsterdam.

Go to Amsterdam.

No, I was in Amsterdam about four months ago.

It was cool.

It was very cool.

Went to a nice museum.

Ate some things.

Yeah.

Just check it out.

Red Light District.

John's looking at me right now.

Whole nine yards.

What the fuck?

I'm just waiting to see if the food in Italy is really better than the food here. Yes.
I would say it is, John. Yes, it is.
Yeah. The food in Italy is good.
What? I've eaten in some really good places. I've had pizza in Italy.
It's pretty good. Okay.
It's different, though, right? Yeah, it's better. It's not like just a good slice that you want to get at, like, Pizza Park at one in the morning.
Oh, my God. No, it's better.
I do have one more question. Could you step in at like a mid-major and be a head coach? I don't think I'm – that would be a bit of much, you don't think? There's no way you'd be a good head coach.
You don't think so? No. John Rothstein's defense.
Like you're up to your neck in fire ants. Your scheduling part, yeah, you would be a great scheduler.
You'd be a great coordinator of recruiting organizational organizational things thank you yeah i lost my train of thought there yeah you got it you know what i'm saying you'd be a great um assistant athletic director it was sID yeah yeah i didn't want to be an sID oh okay but you would be great at like being the right-hand man of like coach k okay that would be actually you're the guy behind The bag man. Yeah.
The bag man. You have to pay a lot of people for that.
Yeah, your boy Club Trillion, I'm sorry to hear. Mark Titus? Yeah, he's not doing a pod anymore.
Well, I think he will be. He will be.
He left on his own volition, so he didn't get fired. Him leaving, you know, not in the podcast world.
It's like when Shannon Dorey left on a 2-1-0. It's okay.
You're just waiting to get that in. All right.
That's John Rothstein. He's the best.

Follow him.

Add John.

Trying to give our boy Titus a shout out.

Well, he'll appreciate that. He probably got fired after what he said on our show.

Yeah, that's true.

He really stepped in it.

It seemed like he had some FOMO on Twitter when we said we're going to be on.

Yeah, he is.

He'll be tickled pink that you mentioned his name, though.

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Okay, let's get some segments. First up, we have a very important segment.
Did he fart? Mike Francesa, should we put in the audio so people can decide for themselves? Here's the audio. I understand how much work they put into this, especially NFL head coaches.
But when you cannot function, when you're not functioning as a franchise, that's when you have to make a change. So this is, well, there's two parts to this.
He definitely farted. Number one, that's not a question.
He then also, in like the last play he had, he farted on Tuesday and announced his retirement on Wednesday. That's not a question.
He then also, in the last play he had,

he farted on Tuesday and announced his retirement on Wednesday.

That's how quickly it happens to you.

That's smart, though, because now everyone's talking about his retirement

and not the fart.

And he can change his mind tomorrow about retiring and do the Jay Leno.

Right.

I'm quitting.

I'm coming back.

Again.

Again.

The snip, snap, snip, snap.

I'm back.

Here's the thing.

There are fart guys and not fart guys. I'm a fart guy.
I am in the fart guy club. Jim Tomsula, fart guy.
Mike Ditko, fart guy. Mike Francesa, fart guy.
If you think about Mike Francesa and you close your eyes, he's walking around and he's constantly farting. He's like a leaky tire.
That's the thing. I think old people, once you reach a certain age, you just always fart.
Your body is in a constant state of leaking gas out of your butt and maybe once or twice an hour it closes up enough to make the fart sound right so it's like a reverse fart that he has almost and he was unlucky enough that he got caught on camera i like how you just you uh declared yourself oh i fart guy yeah have you been caught on camera farting no i have not a preemptive fart guy no no but it was an errant fart there wasn't a fart and i was blamed for it more than anyone and i understand that as a guy like i people look at me and they're like hey that's a fart guy and i understand the cross i bear it's fine like i'm not saying fart guys might not fart more than average but they are the guys that will get blamed for the fart when it happens in a room j Jim Tomsula is the perfect platonic ideal of a fart guy.

Right.

So it's just something that happens in society

where if you look around a room, you will know.

Again, they might not be the ones who did it.

They're the ones who will get blamed because they just have a look.

And Mike Francesa 100% has it.

Do you think he did it, though?

That's not the is Mike Francesa a fart guy.

It's did he do it. Well, I think he did.
But you know what my answer is? Even if he did do it, who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Stanley, who cares? But it doesn't matter if he does it. Hank, that's my point.
It's like he is a fart guy, so whether he did it or not, he's going to get blamed for it, and that's just how the world works. And do you actually think that the farting affected his decision to retire? Yes, I think it did.
Yeah, I think it did because everyone is talking about him farting. Right.
He's got it. It was like he had it.
It was a plan he was going to do. And then once it was like, oh, shit, how do we deal with this fart game stuff? Let's announce this early, like a pre announced like a PR kind of just.
I think he probably knows as a guy who farts a lot. I likened it to basically when you walk around with the athletic pants.
That's Mike Francesa's butt cheeks. Always kind of wide open.
Like a tuba. He's walking around with a tuba in his pants.
His lower intestine is dragging out like a tail. So he knows that at some point he's going to either one fall asleep on on air again or two, fart.
And at that point, he will take out his breaking case of emergency fart glass and say he's going to retire again. I think the other move for him would have been to just say that he has an addiction.
To farting? No, use the notes app. Pop something out there and say, I'm addicted to Diet Coke.
He is. And what you saw was the result of 25 years of drinking 12 Diet Cokes a day with the aspartame.
Now my body's developed a condition. I'm checking it.
I'm seeking treatment for my addiction. And then just blame it on that.
Come back. Start dumping your Diet Coke into a paper cup so no one can tell what you're drinking.
But at that point, we can't be mad at you anymore. Yeah, addiction.
You had a problem, a medical issue. Yeah, he's got a fart problem.
He's addicted to farts. He just farts all the time.
All right, so congrats to Mike Francesa on his second retirement. How long will this one last? I think he's already back.
Yeah. Well, you can't be number two if you're retired.
Can they rename his studio? He is number two. No, he's not number two because he's retired.
Well, he hasn't retired yet. But he has declared his intent.
He wants another retirement tour, which is, that's the hilarity in this, the hilarious part of this whole thing. He's the Brett Favre of radio.
He did a retirement week where he had all of his friends and all the celebrities call in and say how much they're going to miss him and how much they love him they named the studio after him he came back three months later four months later and he's gonna do it all again i mean with they're gonna rename the studio success of the mics on app it should be called the mics on app radio studio yeah so he gets a little extra promotion he doesn't't even own it anymore. He sold it? Yes.
Probably made a mint

off it too. He was

so bad that he basically gave it up to

radio.com. Mike, if you really want to make an

app, just make a Mike Francesa

fart simulator app. Oh, man.

Hilarious. I love...
He's a fart guy. He's a fart guy.

Alright, Sabermetrics, PFT, you

had this for me. Yeah, this is just something interesting

I came across online today.

It's a comparison between Coach A and

Coach B. So you tell me which coach you'd

rather have these okay

this is uh through 23 games in their nfl career one coach has 7 472 yards of offense the other has 7,887 yards of offense.

One has

549 points.

That's Coach A again.

Coach B has 602 points, so 53 more points than Coach A. So one has about 400 yards more offense.
What about wins and losses? We're just going to stick to the Sabre-Matrix here. As a math guy, you know that wins and losses don't matter, right? They matter the most.
You know that they don't matter. Coach wins and losses.
Process over results. So between those two, which one would you rather have? I want them both fired.
Congrats. You took Mark Trestman.
Yeah, I want them both fired. So one was Matt Nagy and the other was Mark Trestman.
That's interesting. Who created this? I believe this was NBC Sports Chicago.
Yeah, they just did it because we've been talking about how he's cocky Mark Trestman. And he is.
So, point proven yet again. Also, Matt Nagy did win Coach of the Year.
That's going to be such a sad trophy in his house in like five years. Like, yeah, Coach of the Year.
I'm at the point where I think that Bill Belichick encourages other people to win Coach of the Year so So that gives him more fuel. Yes.
It gives him that anger.

What do you think?

I'm going to try to win coach of the year.

All right.

Last or no, we got two more PR one on one for Jermaine Whitehead.

It's more that he just gave up.

It was like, I can do the politics game and I can like do the shit I have to do to win.

And I'll get coach of the year or I can just say, fuck it.

And I don't like I'm going to win.

I'm never going to win coach of the year.

But is that the same thing?

Like what kind of extra politics does a coach do to get coach? You think I'm sure Peter King. I'm sure if Belichick played ball a little bit more with the NFL, they would give him coach of the year.
100%. If he took Peter King out to Skyline Chili once a year.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's pretty much it. I'm sure there's a couple things.
I'm sure there's a lot of things that the NFL comes to the Patriots and are like, we want you to do this. And he's like, no, fuck you.
They always give coach of the year to the guy who has a team that kind of comes out of nowhere anyway. So that's why he doesn't get coach of the year.
Let's see. Coach of the year winners.
I bet you there's actually some hilarious winners in the past. Bill Belichick is the first one who comes up.
So NFL coach of the year. Matt Nagy, that sucked.
Sean McVay. Jason Garrett won coach of the year in 2016.
That's weird. Ron Rivera, Bruce Arians, Ron Rivera, Bruce Arians.
That's actually how it went. Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick has three.
Marvin Lewis has one in 2009. Mike Smith has one.
Holy shit. 2008, he won coach of the year.
Dick Geron won Coach of the Year. Yeah, that's...

Listen, all you got to do is have one year where it's like, boom, out of nowhere.

Jim Fossil, Dom Capers.

Andy Reid won it last year.

Man, that's pretty good.

I'm just glad Andy got it.

Andy Reid did not win it last year.

Andy, oh, the Sporting News.

Matt Nagy won Coach of the Year.

He won Sporting News, NFL Coach of the Year.

Oh, I'm talking about the AP, dude.

Okay, AP versus Sporting News. Get it right.
Oh, yeah, that is. That's weird that there's two different ones.
There's two of them. Okay.
So who has consensus, the most consensus coaches of the year? Mike Smith won that in 2012 as well. Mike Smith won 2010 Sporting News as well.
2010. Oh, and 2012.
So he was consensus. Yeah.
All right. All right.
So we just did. This actually was.
In conclusion, Mike Smith is the best coach to ever coach in the NFL in the last decade. And we also would like to say that this was actually a super meta joke where this was us celebrating Mike Francesco's career by reading off a list for everyone at home.
That's a two for Mike. A 21 fart salute.
Yeah go Mike Alright so PR 101 for Jermaine Whitehead Who was the Browns safety Cornerback Safety Threatened people online On Twitter after they lost to Broncos Got cut Got taken off Twitter And now is apologized So thanks What would you rather, get cut from the Browns or suspended from Twitter? I think I'd rather not play for the Browns anymore. Yeah, especially how this season's gone.
Still have a Twitter account. Here's my problem with what he did.
Not that he threatened people. Whatever.
That happens every day on Twitter. My problem is, he said, meet me at this address and then gave the facility address.

If you tell someone to meet you somewhere,

it has to be your house,

right?

Yeah.

Man up.

No,

I agree because if,

if they meet you at the team facility and shit goes down,

guess what?

You've implicated your teammates now.

Right.

So congratulations.

Baker Mayfield is a murderer of things besides fashion.

Uh,

I think that it's,

we are Baker guys.

PFT on the list. I'm not on the list.
I'm not're listening to this right now. PFT's on the list.
I've stood up for Baker more than you have in the past. No, no.
I simply have. Nope.
I think Whitehead should just be like, hey, listen, my name's Whitehead. My last name is Whitehead.
I've had a tough life. This has not been easy for me to deal with that as my name for the last 24 years or 25 years, however long he's been give him a break I I don't have a problem with that my problem with him is uh he lied he said I'm gonna kill you bitch that's on blood so he said he swore that he would kill him and then he didn't follow follow his word well he got he got uh kicked off twitter so he probably couldn't find who he told he was gonna kill he also He also, he didn't say no cap, so it might have been a cap situation.
Absolutely. No blood.
He said no blood. On blood.
He said on blood. That's on blood.
Come get it in blood, bitch. Come get it in blood, bitch made ass little boy.
I'm out there. Break all these.
This is very offensive. I'm out there with a broke hand.
Don't get smoked. I'm going to kill you, bitch.
That's on blood. But he didn't say no cat that sucks so he's joking playing with a broken hand because that's something you like should actually be able to tell everyone like hey actually i have a broken hand they're making me play was he on the injury report no i don't know so mou freddie kitchens might be in trouble yikes let's keep that off freddie kitchens plate he's got too much uh all right pmt sports biz minute good morning this is jake marsh for the PMT Sports Biz Minute.
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Cometor back to you. Thanks, Jake.
Very cool. That was awesome.
Thanks, Jake. You sound a little different yes uh specials that's cool um all right let's finish up guys on chicks uh by the way friday we have i think we have warren sharp back in studio and we have herm edwards coach herm edwards awesome master motivator and we have the goat coming next week jerry rice sup fellas what is your take on inverted nipples have you ever come across them before and if you did would you be alarmed sometimes it makes me feel insecure because i don't know how guys feel about it i've had them my whole life obviously and my boyfriend thinks they are really quote-unquote rare when in reality lots of women have them is he right or is this a normal thing i like how he refers to you as rare like a pokemon like you're a strange strange Magic the Gathering card that he hasn't been able to play yet that he found on eBay.
I don't know what an inverted nipple is, so I'm going to look it up. Is that just a belly button? Yeah, that's fine.
No, you just don't have the nip. Like, it's just...
The nip is just not there. It's like there, but it's not.
Yeah, you're fine. I'm now looking at port.
that's i think that's a normal nipple i am i mean these are breasts that i'm looking at yeah that's breasts those are breasts you know what it kind of looks like is the emoji that has the line that goes straight across they're like not happy not sad emoji it looks like that without eyes yeah so you're fine you're fine once once someone gets to the shirt off portion they're committed. Yes.
So whatever your nipples look like, it's not going to affect it. A PMT mates, especially Stash Cat and Drunk Tweed of Liam.
I just, it's a mate, so you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, we know.
My boyfriend recently started eating with his mouth open in an effort to tighten up his jawline. And he was convinced that the wider he opens his mouth and the louder he chews, the faster he will get results.
This is a huge pet peeve of mine, and there would never have even been a second date if he ate like this on the first one. He says he will only have to do it for a couple of months, but I don't think I can take it.
Please help. What do I do? This sounds like some shit that a self-help person would put on YouTube as a joke.
Yeah, it sounds like something they talked about on a Joe Rogan podcast.

Yeah, Joe Rogan.

It's like if you chew raw elk meat with your mouth open,

it increases testosterone levels.

I think this might work, though.

I'm kind of into it.

I'm going to chew gum.

Yeah, because I want to have that Bulgarian's jaw.

Can you chew gum with your mouth open?

What do you mean?

Of course.

Ask Pete Carroll or his twin.

Dude. What is that? Do we have updates on the twin yeah the twin is real I mean it's his brother and it looks exactly like him and yeah maybe they were born a couple years apart but it's a fucking twin you can't get one by us Pete hey boys especially cat dad hey that's that's oh not yet.
That's you. I have a weird predicament with a new boyfriend.
We have been exploring and sharing our kinks. Lately, he has signaled he would like me to be his pet.
He wants me to crawl around like a dog, bark, and smell my ass. The sex before this has been really good.
Should I leave before he makes me pee on him like a fire hydrant? I think if you've gone this this far that's really the only thing you have to look forward to is pissing on him crawl around bark what else smell my ass okay no you know what you should do is you should just get in a dog fight with him just fucking bite him in the neck and see what he says then be like oh we're not playing anymore sorry do, Normal Hype TFT, my boyfriend won't stop juuling and continually hides it from me. He thinks I don't know.
He hides it and his crew cuts socks and goes to the bathroom every 50 minutes to take a rip. Then comes back relieved he got his rip in.
If he gets caught, he just tosses it to the nearest guy in the room saying, thanks for the rip. I send him articles all the time about the dangers of this habit, but he won't listen.
He's a listener of the show, and so am I, so I hope you can offer some advice about what I should do to make him quit or if I should just give up. Yeah, it was the toughest thing I've ever had to quit.
There's definitely a college kid if he's just around dudes at any given moment. The closest bro.
Here's what you do. It's really simple.
Get him a bunch of those no-show socks. Like the ones that you wear with a loafer.
Yeah, they suck, but you know what? You can't hide a fucking jewel in them. Hankles will get destroyed.
Yeah. Guess what? Better than your lungs, Hank.
But he'll just put it lower in his foot. I like where your head's at.
It's like, try to solve the problem in a creative way. Right.
The problem with that is the grips of jewel addiction, the spikes get so far deep into you that even if they take away your ability to smuggle, you'll just start keistering it. You'll keister a Juul to get a sweet drag.
It's bad. My recommendation is switch to cigarettes.
Yeah, there you go. Just get cigarettes and then transition slowly from cigarettes to chewing tobacco.
Transfer to cigarettes because it's winter out and they're not going to want to go outside to smoke yes and then transfer from cigarettes to chewing tobacco then chewing tobacco to tea leaves with nicotine on them which that's the progression i've made since june june do you actually june of what of what year of this year do you have oh that is when you stop yeah you have any actual helpful advice you can give to the people that might actually be trying to quit

Juul?

Stop.

That's literally...

Stop.

How did you do it?

That's literally how I stopped.

PFT was...

He was.

Fully fledged,

dictated and just cut.

That's literally how...

I just stopped doing it

and I would smoke

cigarettes sometimes.

That's it.

But now you're completely off.

Analog cigarettes, yeah.

Now I'm totally...

I haven't had a Juul again

since Grit Week.

There you go.

Go on Grit Week. Here's how you quit Juul.
You ready? That was the other thing. You tried to quit on Grit Week.
There you go. Go on Grit Week.

Here's how you quit, Juul.

That was the other thing.

You tried to quit on Grit Week.

Yeah, in a van.

You can't quit in a van.

Go interview Zac Efron and Blake Griffin.

That worked for me.

All right, last one.

Hey, guys, especially Dad Cat.

My husband and I recently had our first child.

The waiting period is over,

and I'm cleared by the doctor to resume what I hope to be regular activities again. Just one holdup.
My husband claims he has PTSD from being in the delivery room, and he says he's adopted the mantra of the Sopranos. Is this it for us? What can I tell him to make this go away? I don't know what the mantra of the Sopranos is.
The Junior Soprano, I think. He eats pussy and they all made fun.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Pussy Bump and Saro got killed because he was a rat.
Yep. That was big pussy, though.
So he's going to... I don't know, man.
You've got to figure this out yourself. I think you've got to figure this out yourself.
I think he needs to grow up. Guys, this is the point of this segment.
You can't just say that, Big Cat. No one's going to send us questions.
Listen, the delivery room is a scene, and you just got to put it away. Just fucking put it into packs.
Oh, that's for the guy? Yeah, the guy. Yeah, just tell him.
Just tell your husband to man up, and what happened happened, and move on. And we don't talk about problems.
We talk about solutions. John Taffer taught me that.
I think the solution is just basically say, we're going to fuck right now. You're going to get over it, or you're going to be a little crybaby.
Which one are you going to do? Yeah. Dominate him.
Or make him bark like a dog. Not the fucking that she's looking for.
Yeah, I know. We got that.
We got that. Dominate him like a dog.
Yeah. She wants him to go play with the man in the boat.

Yes.

Yeah.

Just tell him to man up.

Yeah, just tell him to man up.

Here's what you do.

Get him a pair of goggles.

Get him a miner's hat.

You send him downstairs.

Tell him to man the fuck up and just do it.

Get down there and eat that pussy.

Okay, not like that.

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