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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, the Washington Nationals are World Series champs. We recap game seven.

Speaker 1 We talk about everything. New title town, possibly.
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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, November 1st, and the Washington Nationals are your World Series champions. PFT.
Feels great. Feels great to be World Series champion.
Team of Destiny. Team of Destiny.

Speaker 1 And we did it together, right? I did it for the National League, for your Cubs. That was part of it, for the city of Montreal.
Yes. An international championship for our futures.

Speaker 1 I always hit futures when PFTs

Speaker 1 win. It's good juju.
Yeah. And so we worked as a team.
We won as a team. The first ever cuck sweep in the history of American sports.
Four games, one on the road in the other man's stadium. Yep.

Speaker 1 The cuck sweep has occurred. It was electric.
I would like to see a banner be hung up in Minutemaid Park for the Washington Nationals.

Speaker 1 I would like a ring ceremony to be in the first game that we play in Houston. Okay.
That's our house now. We own it.

Speaker 1 It's weird because this World Series will be remembered as...

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 very odd because it's never happened before that the home the road team won every single game and the fact that

Speaker 1 like, it was never, none of the games were really close, but there was drama. So it was very odd World Series.
But the Nationals, like, credit to them, they were unbelievable all postseason.

Speaker 1 We talked about this a week ago, but going back to the error in right field for the Brewers, like, how they were able to, they did it both ways. They survived defeat in insane ways.

Speaker 1 They dominated the Cardinals. They came back on Kershaw.
They win on the road in game seven against the Astros. So, like, they essentially, if you took the DVD, they hit like everything.

Speaker 1 There were two. Where do we start the DVD? Where do we start that? When they were in 1931.
1931, probably. That's where it begins.

Speaker 1 I need to say thank you because the Nationals have directly turned around the Bears season. Matt Nagy put a PowerPoint out there showing the Nationals today.
Okay. Yes, you're welcome.
That's good.

Speaker 1 He is insane. Matt Nagy is so insane.
He fucking did a fucking PowerPoint. He's really good at spin zones, though.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 I just want to say thank you.

Speaker 1 You're welcome. Little do your pod.

Speaker 1 Right after the game was over, fights, the first thing he said was, you know what?

Speaker 1 It really speaks to Boston sports dominance, to the fact that since D.C. has won two titles in the last year, no one's even thinking about calling them Title Town.

Speaker 1 It hasn't even occurred. Fact-check, they won three.
Oh, the Missouri

Speaker 1 titles, but in his mind, that's still Boston. I think it probably still is.
But you guys get Title Town. We are the district of champions in D.C.
That's pretty cool. That's what D.C.
stands for.

Speaker 1 Pretty cool way to say it. I like that, too.
So, yeah, it was very cool seeing them win that game.

Speaker 1 I thought they were out of it. I thought that they were going to leave Grinky in, which they probably should have done.

Speaker 1 They took Grinky out after 81 pitches. I was one hit and a walk, and they said, you're out.
Okay, so I was actually okay with pulling Zach Grenke just because in a game seven,

Speaker 1 a home run and a walk does feel like the wheels are falling off because it's so tense, and you do have to have a shorter leash in game seven. The fact they didn't go to Garrett Cole is insane.

Speaker 1 Well, they had Garrett Cole warm up and then sit down. It looked like they were playing a prank on Garrett Cole.
If you pull Zach Grenke, you put in Garrett Cole.

Speaker 1 If you pull Zach Grenke and you put in whoever the hell they put in, I think Smith or something,

Speaker 1 the guy that looked like he sells head units at Best Buy, did not have the face for a World Series game seven. But that is where I like, you can't lose a game seven and have your best player not play.

Speaker 1 You just can't. And Garrett Cole, after, shout out to him because we've never seen someone divorce a team faster.

Speaker 1 He went into the locker room, took a shower, got in front of the media, put on his Scott Boris hat, literally was wearing it on his agent's hat afterwards.

Speaker 1 I like that. He is Scott Boris's favorite client.
He said, I'm not an employee of the team, I guess, as a representative of myself, and then talked about the game. He's going to make so much money.

Speaker 1 So much money. It'll be interesting to see what happens to these nationals, too, because you've got Rendone that wants a lot of money, and he earned it given his performance in the postseason.

Speaker 1 We have to mention the

Speaker 1 stat ever. So they put this up and now he hit a flyout after they put it up because that's just how jinxes work.

Speaker 1 But Anthony Rendone in the playoffs in elimination games after the seventh inning, his at-bats went walk, home run, double, double, home run, double, home run. Insane.
That's so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 It's insane. I actually think he would make more money.

Speaker 1 I think he turned down 220 million or something like that from the Nationals, but they do the thing that the Mets did with Bobby Benilla with all their contracts where they give you deferred payments until like 2060, when we're probably not even going to have a country anymore.

Speaker 1 So he is probably looking down the barrel of like $250, $260 million payday right now. It's going to be crazy.
Nationals probably won't be able to re-sign him.

Speaker 1 I think he should trim the beard a little bit. Don't shave the beard, Rendone.
But the fact that it's kind of scraggly, it hangs off a little bit, makes you look older. It makes you look slower.

Speaker 1 Tighten it up. Fair point.
If I'm Scott Boris, you have to pay attention to these small things.

Speaker 1 You have a binder filled with stats, maybe just a binder filled filled with some headshots and just encourage them to clean it up a little bit. Look at this guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Steven Strasberg, if we're talking about contracts, he's going to opt out and make so much money because he was incredible in this postseason. He has four years, $100 million left on his contract.

Speaker 1 In 2023, he will get paid $45 million,

Speaker 1 and he's still going to opt out. Jesus Christ.
That's crazy. Future Yankee.

Speaker 1 Everyone's getting their pinstripes. They're going to buy all the pinstripes.
Garrett Cole and Steven Strasberg. Yeah, no, he's going to get paid for sure.

Speaker 1 He's out uh but you have to ask did the strasburg shutdown work in 2012 it did it was one of those things where you never know maybe if they didn't shut him down he hurts his his elbow that season instead of a little bit later you never know what what's going to happen with the comeback i'm going to say they did the right call on the strasburg shutdown i agree in one site they won flags fly forever that's right absolutely correct and it was a fun team it was an impossible team to root for i'm still trying to think whether or not I'm going to go down to the parade because

Speaker 1 mostly the only reason I'm thinking about not going down to the parade is because I'm scared of having a hangover on Sunday that's yeah that's the only reason that's fair that's a fair thing to be with when you're 34 years old that's terrifying yes that's the pre-hangover is the worst I'm already hungover thinking about it right um I don't want to do this because it's a little mean but I think it's one of those sports things that you got to at least mention the Detroit Tigers The 2014 Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 1 They had Justin Verlander, David Price, Rick Porcello, Max Scherzer, and Annabal Sanchez. They're probably glad they got rid of Verlander, though.

Speaker 1 They got swept by the Baltimore Orioles in the playoffs. Since then, all five of those guys have won a World Series.

Speaker 1 That's rough. That is.

Speaker 1 Those different teams all, too. Yeah, that's like looking at the early 2000s Miami Hurricanes and being like, holy shit, look at all these guys.
How'd they ever lose any games? Like,

Speaker 1 that's an insane staff. And they got swept by the Orioles, and then they all have titles not five years later.
Yeah, too bad for them. I'm sorry, Detroit.

Speaker 1 I didn't mean to do that. That's not for the Hall of Famer.
I'm going to defend you in a little bit because I think that the Lions are making the playoffs this year. I still think that.

Speaker 1 Maybe. There's going to be the team that you don't want to see

Speaker 1 at the end of the year. But yeah, that sucks for them.
It's good for the city of Washington, D.C. It was pretty cool to watch them celebrate afterwards, too.

Speaker 1 You had a lot of hot mics being directed into the mouths of fuck this and fuck that and asshole and hell yeah, this shit kicks ass. Yes.

Speaker 1 And the reporters were like, oh my God, why are we we going live right now? There were some people that were just like smoking weed directly into the camera

Speaker 1 on a live feed. It was great.
It was good to see the city celebrating. I'd like to go down there and celebrate on Saturday.
We'll see if I get, if I develop some courage, if I develop a spine

Speaker 1 in the face of this impending hangover. I got one last thing I want to talk about this.
So

Speaker 1 obviously, incredible run for the Nats, the 19 and 31 to win the World Series. This is the year between the blues and the Nats.
Like, if you suck halfway through the year, you're okay.

Speaker 1 Does this mean that Max Scherzer is the pitcher of the decade? Let's do a decade off. A decade off.
Because everyone says Clayton Kershaw is the pitcher of the decade.

Speaker 1 Now, Max Scherzer has a World Series. He has

Speaker 1 three Cy Youngs. He has three Cy Youngs.

Speaker 1 He won Cy Young's in both leagues. Seven-time All-Star, and now he's got a World Series.
I would say, yeah. I'd say pitcher of the decade.
Pitcher of the decade, Max Scherzer. Yes.

Speaker 1 Bum Garner would be the only other one that you could maybe throw in there.

Speaker 1 He's a trip. I'm probably forgetting that.
He's playoff pitcher of the decade. Yeah, he is playoff pitcher of the decade.
Having the World Series takes him over the top.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Clayton Kershaw has also three Cy Young's, so I think the World Series now takes Scherzer over the top.

Speaker 1 Clayton Kershaw has much better acceptance videos on Sports Center. True.
Fact. Okay.
When he had the Mean Street posse, Greenwich, Pete Gas, and Shano, they were all just hanging out.

Speaker 1 That's true, but it's also a little bit cooler to have a pitcher with two different colored eyes be the pitcher of the decade. And the fact that he only

Speaker 1 four dogs with two different color eyes makes him the coolest guy. I think he just adopted another dog, too.
Did he? He's obsessed with adopting dogs.

Speaker 1 I can't believe Clinton Kershaw, I'm just looking at it right now, is only 31. By the way, if we're ranking major sports.
You know,

Speaker 1 he grew up with Matt Stafford? No. Oh, really? Were they friends? What? Yeah, that's crazy.
Did they play sports? They played little league together.

Speaker 1 Madison Bumgartner dated a girl named Madison Bumgarner. Yeah, that's true, too.
Yeah. Wow.
Wait. It's crazy, right? Stafford? Yeah.
Next, you're going to tell me that.

Speaker 1 Here's Here's a picture of them highlighted, but just their two faces are highlighted. Okay, gotcha.
There's something so great about all knowing the same facts. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That I know the same facts as so many people in America. Did Justin Thomas go to high school with anyone?

Speaker 1 Is that the guy who went to high school with Jordan Speeth? Help me out. Isn't there another one that they do every single time?

Speaker 1 Tommy Lee Jones and Al Gore were roommates in college. They do it with the golfers.
No, Speeth and Kershaw went to high school together. No, no.
No.

Speaker 1 Whatever. All right, so this is dumb.
Antonio Gates

Speaker 1 played tight end in. Well, he did.
He still plays tight end. I mean, no, he played

Speaker 1 basketball. I'm trying to find him.
I'm trying to find myself here. There's a picture of Smith and Justin Thomas.
There we go. I was right.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 They are the Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw of golf.

Speaker 1 Lincoln's secretary is named Kennedy. Kennedy's secretary is Lincoln.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Blow your mind. But if you were to power rank the four major sports trophies, where does the World Series trophy stand? Fifth.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Agreed. It sucks.

Speaker 1 It sucks. That thing's going to break.
It looks like a bunch of shish kebabs with tiny pieces of chicken meat on it. It's awful.
Where do you rank the Lombardi?

Speaker 1 Two. Two.
Lombardi and the NBA are the exact same trophy. It's just a basketball or a football on a fucking

Speaker 1 football is better than basketball, so it's two. No, I agree.
And it's bigger. I agree.
It's Cup, Lombardi, Larry O'Brien, whatever the MLS, they probably give you a stick or something.

Speaker 1 Because the Lombardi actually has, I'm pretty sure, like an accurately sized football on top. The Larry Bryan looks like like the feeble one.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not, they had a real basketball-sized basketball. I think it might be.
No, no way. I think an AMC is a terrible trip.
I think they're both a little bit smaller.

Speaker 1 I think the Lombardi is definitely smaller than a real football. Either way, it's the worst.
It looks like

Speaker 1 the World Series trophy was built just to break it. It looks like something that you, when you put it in your house, you're like, ooh, don't go near there.

Speaker 1 I bet you they have it insured like a motherfucker. I bet you that's the reason why they designed it like that, so they can keep getting it repaired.
Yes. Make some money.

Speaker 1 And it's also, you can't drink out of it.

Speaker 1 You can't hold it with one hand. The Nationals tried to drink out of it.
Really? Yeah, it didn't work. It just poured the balls.
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 Sean Doolittle thought it was just like a bunch of lightsabers. He was like, that'd be cool to try to drink out of this.

Speaker 1 All right. So that is a World Series.
That is baseball. Congrats again to PFT.
Thank you. I'm glad I don't have to do Soggy Soros.

Speaker 1 Yeah, although we had something very funny planned that we will whoever has Soggy Soros next forward. Unless it's you.

Speaker 1 I'm the only one who's.

Speaker 1 PFT is the only one who hasn't done Sogisars. I mean,

Speaker 1 looking into the future, it's most likely that Hank would have to to do Soggy Sorrows next because if the Patriots were to lose in the playoffs, Hank is still upset about the time that he had to do Soggy Sorrows because the Celtics lost a random Sunday afternoon game to LeBron.

Speaker 1 Nope, that's not why I'm not sure if you're not.

Speaker 1 I'm giving up Soggy Vibes. The standard of Soggy Sorrows was set, and then you guys have failed to meet that standard.
Correct. You gave off Soggy Vibes that afternoon.
It was a prank. Got it.

Speaker 1 It's called a prank. You fell for it.

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Speaker 1 I thought you were going to ask, should the Washington Nationals put up a statue of that fat guy that tore off his shirt and did slip and slide across the dugout? That was my question.

Speaker 1 They need to dip that guy in bronze. I'm sure he'd be willing to sacrifice his own life for it, dip him in bronze and just put him on top of that dugout.
All respect. All eternity.

Speaker 1 All respect in the world because when you go to rip off your shirt, if you don't get it right away, the moment is gone. It was the smoothest tear of the shirt.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry for using the F-word, the chonk boy, our chonk legend.

Speaker 1 He was a large man.

Speaker 1 Listen, I respect him. I think his shirt had been stress test for many years, so it was easy to rip.
But either way, he's the new trophy. I just think if you buy a shirt.

Speaker 1 If you buy a shirt that big, it comes ready to rip. Because they just know you'll have to maybe extricate yourself from it at some point.
Yeah, working. All right.
Let's do some NFL week nine preview.

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Okay, week nine preview.

Speaker 1 So we have the PMTs. Hank has the Ravens plus nine and a half, PFT, Seahawks minus a half.
I have the Lions plus 8.5. Those all have to win.
Guaranteed to win. Guaranteed to win.
Let's start with...

Speaker 1 Well, let's start with this.

Speaker 1 Are we worried about Baker Mayfield? I'm not worried.

Speaker 1 I have long said that Baker Mayfield plays better when people think that he sucks. And he's done a very good job of making, he's tricking everybody into thinking that he sucks right now.

Speaker 1 And so he's getting all that hate coming at him.

Speaker 1 He lashed out a little bit at a reporter in Cleveland this week, but I just want to say there should be an asterisk on that guy's name, reporter, because that guy is actually not a reporter because he said that he would retire from reporting if Baker Mayfield was taken number one overall by the Browns two years ago.

Speaker 1 Because it's Tony Grassi. Because it's Tony Grassi.
So technically, that guy's not even a reporter anymore. Baker Mayfield lashed out at no one.
Okay, perfect. So that's a great spin zone.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 In all honesty,

Speaker 1 I understand that Baker is

Speaker 1 maybe lashing out a little bit. It's never a good look to go at the media like that.
I'd be a hypocrite to say it. Matt Nagie's been an idiot with the media.
If Baker does that, he doesn't look great.

Speaker 1 But Baker is a passionate guy. And if you like his passion when he's winning, you can't accuse him of like,

Speaker 1 you can't criticize his passion when he's losing. Yeah.
He has these moments like once a month, once every four weeks.

Speaker 1 He's like on his period.

Speaker 1 He's PMSing this week. He was a little bit bloated.
He's fine right now.

Speaker 1 What does PMS stand for? Pre-menstrual syndrome. Post-menopausal syndrome.

Speaker 1 Pre-menstrual, which is

Speaker 1 way more potent than menstrual syndrome.

Speaker 1 You don't want that. No,

Speaker 1 you do not want that. Once you start bleeding out of various holes.
Shout out all the chicks.

Speaker 1 Shout out to chicks. You're way tougher than us.
Although I did get bit by a dog. Yeah, once I'm at dick blood, so that's kind of the same thing.
I've been peeing blood on the roof.

Speaker 1 You're basically menstruating. Yeah.
I actually peed a little blood last Saturday after I played basketball, but I think it's because I went so hard in the paint.

Speaker 1 I peed dark brown the other day during squattober. Gave myself rhabdos.
So, again, I menstruated. So, we're basically the same.
So, all right, so Baker, we're not worried solidarity with Baker.

Speaker 1 We are also menstruating. I think the Browns are going to win this week.
I really do. And

Speaker 1 I think they are going to change the narrative of their season. We actually went through the schedule on Monday's show.
The Browns have a path. If they can win the games, they're supposed to win.

Speaker 1 It will basically come down to playing the Ravens and the Steelers twice, and they can get into the playoffs at 9-7 in the AFC. So the season's not over, and I think it starts.

Speaker 1 The rebound starts this week for Baker, so I'm not jumping off the ship with Baker.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to get better before it gets worse. Well, they're also playing Brandon Allen, who is the Broncos quarterback that's never played.

Speaker 1 They don't have anybody in the NFL that's ever played a snap. Are they anybody on their team that's ever played a snap in the NFL? And he's also, Allens are back.

Speaker 1 He's the third Allen that's going to be starting at quarterback this weekend, Kyle Josh, Brandon. So Allens would come up as the Mats are in decline.
Okay, Allen's.

Speaker 1 I wish one of them spelled it like A-L-A-N. That'd be funny.
That's a lot better. Yeah, that would be very funny.
All right, so we have a true London game. Early Texans, Jaguars.
Wait. And.
Wait.

Speaker 1 Are we setting the clocks back? Yep. Okay.
Daylight savings. So this is the trickiest Sunday morning you will have to deal with this year.

Speaker 1 Not only do we have an early game, you have to get your bets in, you have to check your fantasy lineups. Shout out to Fantasy

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Speaker 1 This is going to cause problems. Everyone, stop the podcast right now.
Set your alarm for Sunday morning at

Speaker 1 9 a.m. Eastern.
9 a.m. Eastern.
It gives you a half hour. So your game's at 9.30.
But is that going to feel like it's 10.30? It's fall forward.

Speaker 1 So your clocks forward an hour this weekend on your microwave. That's really the only clock that you have anymore in your house.
Oh, it's going to feel like 10.30. We get an extra hour.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it's not as bad. No, no, no.
It's not as bad, but it's also going to fuck you up. In a good way, though.
Yeah, yeah, but you still. You're going to get fucked up with sleep.

Speaker 1 But it's also like early game, fucks you up. It's just going to be, there's going to be some clock issues.
I wish we had a clock expert we could call. Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 If we had Andy Reid here, we could give him a ring. I think that if you're a real tough guy, this is the weekend of adversity.
This is what you have to battle through.

Speaker 1 I like to just not reset my clock in my car.

Speaker 1 I like to go all winter without resetting because the thrill that you get when it resets back and you've been on there this whole time, you feel great, like you accomplished something.

Speaker 1 Also, just for anyone who wants to be like their idol PFT, he doesn't actually own a car. So that was great advice.
I used to. I used to not own a car.

Speaker 1 I used to own a car, and I would never set my clock. It was like everyone's going to be not changing their clock.
Like, I'm doing this PFT does.

Speaker 1 Here you are, just fucking walking and taking the subway to work. I've proven it year after year that I can make it through the winter, the long, harsh winter with my clock hibernating.

Speaker 1 Everyone's late to everything or way too early. In solidarity, I will not set my clock on my microwave.
There you go. This weekend.
There you go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So we have the true London game, Texans, Jaguars. I have one loser leaves town game.

Speaker 1 I do think it's Bears-Eagles because I think a loss for the Eagles is very bad, and a loss for the Bears. It's already over, but it's really over.
It's not really, really over for either team.

Speaker 1 No, it's really, really over.

Speaker 1 I want to see if Matt Nagy has been able to just will himself out of this funk this week. He is.
I want to see maybe he's driven himself sane.

Speaker 1 He's gone so insane that he's come out the other end and he understands how to coach a football team. Probably not.

Speaker 1 Probably not, but there's a chance that they figure it out over the course of the rest of the year. My loser leaves town is Houston and Jacksonville.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's nice. Keep the other one over there in London.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I like that. Just leave the Jaguars on the tarmac.
I like that.

Speaker 1 So we also had,

Speaker 1 I have a, are we sure they're good game? And it's really just for, and I know people are going to get mad because I've made my peace with Ravens fans, but this is a big test.

Speaker 1 Ravens Patriots is a great Sunday night game. It's a win game.
Are we sure they're good? I'm talking about the Ravens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If the Ravens win this game, then they are now like really, really officially on context.

Speaker 1 But if they lose their back to frauds, well,

Speaker 1 no, no,

Speaker 1 they have lost the F-word, but what's right above frauds? What happens if

Speaker 1 the Patriots lose this game, Hank? Are you at least

Speaker 1 zero?

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's are we sure they're good

Speaker 1 for the for the Baltimore Ravens? It's an are we sure they're lucky game for the Patriots this week.

Speaker 1 It's a are we sure the Patriots are historically good game? So if they give up like

Speaker 1 if the Patriots lose, it's a chestnut checkers game. But if the Patriots give up like 24 points, they might not be historically good anymore.

Speaker 1 One thing you can count on in this game is John Harbaugh is going to have something up his sleeve, like some weird loophole that he thinks that he's exploited that he's going to try to deploy, and he's not going to be able to do it correctly because of some small technicality.

Speaker 1 So he'll show Belichick what he was trying to do, but not implement it successfully. Right, right.
Give him a different look, they say. And then

Speaker 1 I have a weird shit's going to happen in this game. The Lions going to the Raiders.
I just feel like that is the weirdest.

Speaker 1 Like those, the Lions uniforms, for some reason, whenever they're on the road, it just weird shit happens.

Speaker 1 And it will be, you know, the Raiders, Lions, just two kind of weird teams when they get together. They don't do it often every four years.
It's a late game.

Speaker 1 It's the 405 game, so it's going to fuck everyone up there. There's going to be something weird that happens in that game.
I agree with that. Are they going to be wearing the grays? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Whatever they're wearing, it's just that game they will show in red zone. They'll be like, Look at this.
Matt Stafford has kicked a field goal.

Speaker 1 It also sucks that they're going to have to play it on Oakland's field without the baseball diamonds. Yeah, that does make it.
That does less weird.

Speaker 1 It's not great. Yeah.
Yeah, that's good. I actually had my

Speaker 1 loser, or I had my Are We Sure They're Good being Tennessee, Carolina.

Speaker 1 So that is Kyle Allen. We're not sure if Kyle Allen's decent at quarterback yet.
Yep.

Speaker 1 But if they win this game, I think the Panthers have to stay with Kyle Allen. I don't think that they're bringing Cam Newton back if he has a good game this week.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I actually, so before we do our picks, I have my can't lose parlay. It did not lose last week.
It is 1-0 in the last one.

Speaker 1 Hank, ready to rip it apart? Because you actually are, I do trust your brain when it comes to this because you're addicted to money lines. Bills against the Redskins.
Can't lose.

Speaker 1 Dwayne Haskins is playing. Can't lose.
Cannot lose.

Speaker 1 Panthers at home against the Titans. Can't lose.
I don't think they're going to lose. I do not think they can lose.
What is your, isn't this to go against your Mike Varable theory, though?

Speaker 1 Yes, kind of, but also they were favorites last week and won, so the theory's gone. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're not getting two games from Ryan Tannehill in a row. Yeah.
Again, two three touchdown games.

Speaker 1 Two games in a row that have three scores all within like 10-yard drives.

Speaker 1 And I just would, like, if you told me the Panthers and the, if you gave me the Panthers and the Titans, just tell me what happened last week, and I'll just do the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 And then my final one is Packers-Chargers

Speaker 1 in San Diego, where there will be only Packers fans. Yep.
Can that lose?

Speaker 1 No, the Panthers-Titans one is a little soft. See, that one's, but guess what? It's two to one odds.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you've got to swipe that one in there. Yeah, all right.
So that's the can't lose. It will not lose.
Let's do some picks. Hank, why don't you start? Give us your underdog.

Speaker 1 Ooh, my underdog to start. Yeah, little Hezzy Hey.
Hey. You want to do down under, Hank?

Speaker 1 My down under.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually will do down under because I'm going to take the Jags. Gardner Minshu, DJ Chalk, then at Fournette.
Okay. Okay, I like that.
Nice.

Speaker 1 There are going to be so many Halloween costumes in London of Gardner Minshew. Does Halloween...
Do they do Halloween in? I'm sure they do. Yeah, it's a big pumpkin country.

Speaker 1 I thought it was just because we burned a bunch of witches way back when. No, I think they just do everything that we do and copy it now.
They probably still have Thanksgiving away because

Speaker 1 you go up to the house and you knock on the door and they just have like a spoon and they just spoon a bunch of beans into your bag.

Speaker 1 He is just beans and toast. And throw a couple sausage links, blood sausage links at your face.
That's Halloween in London. My underdog is going to be Detroit.

Speaker 1 Detroit plus two at the Raiders. Matt Stafford MVP season.
Yep. That offense is extremely

Speaker 1 dark horse. I like it.
Okay, my underdog, I'm going to go with the Steelers. I think the Steelers are are still going to get back into it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to make of the Colts, and I just think they play close games, so I'll take the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Hank, your favorite? Pats. Okay.
But you have the T's with the Ravens. The PMT with the

Speaker 1 Ravens. Yeah, it's a little hedge situation.
Okay. Well, it's weird because you were so confident when you picked the Ravens.

Speaker 1 And it's actually, I'm so, it's a galaxy brain pick because the Patriots can cover and my T's can still hit.

Speaker 1 How is that? Well, because they

Speaker 1 tease PFT, you don't, do you even tease PFT?

Speaker 1 Like I said, I tweeted this on Friday, but like teaching anyone how to tease is the deadliest thing. You basically are just saying, hey, go ahead and lose every bet for three months.

Speaker 1 I thought I was going to put one in, and then it was like, do you want to do an 18-team teaser? And I was like, what? Yeah, that would pay two.

Speaker 1 I thought you could tease one game.

Speaker 1 Two games. You have to win two.
It's two. I tried to do one on Monday.
I'm like, all right, I'm going to do a Monday night teaser. And then I was like, wait a second.
That's just buying six points.

Speaker 1 A tease is basically just a way to. It's a drug that tricks your brain into thinking that you're good at gambling.
And thinking if you can outsmart the lines.

Speaker 1 but you can't. Okay, your favorite.
My favorite is Buffalo. Minus nine and a half.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Easy peasy. Yeah, a little bounce back.
All right, I'm going to ride with Baker. I'm a Baker believer.
I'm going to take the Browns minus four against Brandon Allen in Denver. Hank,

Speaker 1 do both. Do your under and your over.
My over is Bears Eagles. I don't know why, but I'm addicted to Bears overs.
I think I just keep, I'm going to continually think that Mitch is due because he is.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 And then my under will be Broncos Browns.

Speaker 1 Okay, what is that? A puke poll, 39. 39.
Okay, PFC. I don't hate either one of those, Hank.
Good job.

Speaker 1 I love when we compliment each other's picks, and then we go all of them loose. Okay, good pick.
Oh, we are all one and three last. Yeah, no, we all suck.
Larry was a good pick.

Speaker 1 Larry was three and two. By the way, I forgot as you were doing the ad read.
You're high again. You still have to do your highest picks.
No, we just did the show earlier than usual, and I forgot.

Speaker 1 We did the show,

Speaker 1 and Hank forgot.

Speaker 1 Larry, the goldfish, we'll treat him out again. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 1 My over is going to be Minnesota, Kansas City, 47.5.

Speaker 1 I like that a lot. Even without Patrick Mahomes? I'm in love with it.
No, I think he's going to play. I don't think so.
I think he's going to play this weekend.

Speaker 1 I feel like they're going to be smart enough to not play him. I don't think so.
Okay. I think they thought about playing him last week,

Speaker 1 which would have been really dumb. Now it's slightly less dumb.
Andy Reid has said, we'll give you a week off. Now you're back.

Speaker 1 Did you see that someone did a super cut, and they cut to Patrick Mahomes 40 times on Sunday night. Oh, really? Yes.
Jesus. Yes.
Insane. My under is Houston, Jacksonville.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Something about the travel over there, Doug Marone, said earlier in the week, it gives you diarrhea. The baloney doesn't slap.
The baloney doesn't slap the same way over in London.

Speaker 1 They're just going to be on the shitter all night ahead of the game. So it's going to be under 46.5, Houston, Jacksonville.
Okay. I will take the over Chargers Packers.

Speaker 1 I think that one's going to go to a billion because I don't know how either team has the ability to stop the opponent. That's a great pick.
Thank you. Thank you, Hank.
48.5. I mean, that's too low.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 Forest fires? Hot weather?

Speaker 1 I forgot about the forest fires.

Speaker 1 The smoke. Yeah, yeah, the smoke.
We'll monitor that. And then my under is Redskins Bills, under 37.
I don't think. I think if you want to take the Redskins

Speaker 1 team total under,

Speaker 1 if it's like 10.5,

Speaker 1 hammer it. Take the under.
Hammer. In the last, what, five?

Speaker 1 Dwayne Trane hasn't got. This isn't the first time he's got first-team team reps that's true yes but changes every

Speaker 1 season of first team no they haven't they there was a four games that he played he didn't take first team reps the week before there was also a report that came out that said that he's having trouble remembering the plays so that's not a good sign in the last five games they've scored three touchdowns one of which was on a gimmick play and uh the other two i think were against the dolphins so technically really only one touchdown the last five games okay

Speaker 1 yeah and all right so yeah that under is going to hit for sure Um,

Speaker 1 let's do it. Let's do fancy fuck boys, and we'll get to John Anick and Dean Blandino.

Speaker 1 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. What's up, boys? It's Mario Magazo.
Mario! Mario!

Speaker 1 Princess! Luigi's Mansion! My stardom is candy corn.

Speaker 1 People think it's just a fucking Halloween festival season, but it's delicious year-round. Don't let the haters shame you into not liking and buying candy corn.
It's delicious. That's right, Mario.

Speaker 1 Give me some plumbers, butt. Clog, you're right up.
$3.65 a year. Get it, Mario.
However, my Siddham is Halloween. That shit's over.
Put it in the rear view. That is a fucking October thing.

Speaker 1 It's November. Stop worrying about getting dressed up and focus on the real world.
We're back in No Nut November, boys. Get it.
Keep those balls high and dry. Get it.
My sleeper is Randall Cobb.

Speaker 1 Cobb salad. He's still available in a lot of leagues if you can pick him up.
If you want some action Monday night when you still, you know, keep the season alive.

Speaker 1 You need a wide receiver for a one-week rental. Pick him up.
Get some points. He stinks like blue cheese.
Randall Cobb, corner of the cob. That's all I got.
Hello. My name is Bernard Sanders.

Speaker 1 I'm starting survival pools this weekend. Thousands and thousands of dollars from donations no bigger than $20 each.
If you're still in your pool, stay the course.

Speaker 1 We're taking teams that are playing the Dolphins. Take the Jets.
My beloved New York Jets, don't overthink it. I'm from Brooklyn.
I'm sitting. Stick to sports.
Stick to sports.

Speaker 1 This weekend, may I finish, please? I am sitting the Washington Redskins insurance program. I'm sitting the medical staff.
We will not stand for that.

Speaker 1 And in my policy, every American will have their own blue medical tent provided to them in their backyard. We will screen for tumors on heads.
Do not worry about it. We have you covered.

Speaker 1 My sleeper

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It's over the couch of the bottle. Stay away from big pharma.
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Wake up feeling 100%.

Speaker 1 Gets rid of heart attacks. Thank you.
Fuck you, Bernie.

Speaker 1 Feel the bud. All right, what's up, guys? It's Randy Ravioli.
What's up, Randy? I'm gonna start Baker Mayfield. Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck about your questions.
Hey, Tony, grossy.

Speaker 1 You're gross, dude. You're also a fancy fuckboy name.
Where'd you get that? In the fantasy fuckboy factory? Don't you know that all the names have to be pastas? My sitem, load management.

Speaker 1 They sacked Kawhi the other night. ESPN's mad.
Load management is sitting.

Speaker 1 That's all I got. No, I don't manage my loads.
I bust them all day, every day. Hey, couldn't you? Hey, it's no nut November.

Speaker 1 You got a load manage. That's my sleeper.
No, not November. Remember, boys, if you're listening to this, no more nuts.
You got a nut when you're in December. Don't you fucking nut.

Speaker 1 Just let that fucking masculinity and machismo build up and boil up in your brain. Wet dream season.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're not nutting your parents, your childhood bed when you're going back to Thanksgiving break, you're doing no nut November incorrect. I'm gonna fuck so many chicks in my sleep.

Speaker 1 That's no nut November. What a fucking weird thing.
I move that we switch it to low December. We just nut as much as possible.
Okay. I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that. Oh, this is a big.
Nope. And they didn't get it.
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Speaker 1 John Annick. Let's do John Anick first and then we will have Dean Blandino after that.
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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, John Anik, and a preview of UFC 241.

Speaker 1 On Saturday night at MSG, he's also the host of the Anik Florian podcast. John, thank you for joining us.
Let's start with the most important story.

Speaker 1 How excited are you to be in the mecca on Saturday night?

Speaker 4 Well, I'm a Boston, Massachusetts guy, so there's always some enthusiasm that's curbed a little bit for me when it comes to New York City. But of course, it's the Mecca.
It's Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 4 And at least as far as fight sports are concerned, this building is synonymous with winning and a lot of history.

Speaker 4 And obviously with this BMF title fight, we're making more history on saturday night i'm bummed you guys aren't going to be in the building but maybe we can change that here in the next 48 hours have you called a fight at ufc or at msg before

Speaker 4 yes a few times and uh it's very special for sure i mean logistically obviously there are some things that the venue leaves to be desired compared to like barclays center but no it's great you feel that history the minute uh you walk in even if there aren't a bunch of you know banners hanging over your head can you explain to me real quick what happened in this last week with nate diaz because it seemed like it was off, then it was on, it was off again, then it maybe it was back on, now it's on again.

Speaker 1 What can you walk us through the ups and downs of what happened?

Speaker 4 I'll try to do it pretty quickly. But basically, there was some flag from USADA, and a lot of guys will get flagged by the U.S.

Speaker 4 Anti-Doping Agency because it's the most stringent testing in professional sports. But oftentimes, there are false positives or tainted supplements.

Speaker 4 This one, I think, had to do with like a vegan daily vitamin. And I think in this case, it's a huge fight.

Speaker 4 It's a special circumstance, but it's also probably the cleanest athlete on the roster, right? A guy who immediately screamed innocence from the rooftops, which you would want any guy to do, right?

Speaker 4 I always wonder why more guys, if they do get flagged, don't immediately do what Nate Diaz did and scream your innocence from the rooftops, because then people really feel like you're innocent.

Speaker 4 In this case, obviously, he was. And thankfully, it's kind of much ado about nothing, even though about a week ago, I almost was having a little panic attack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it felt like it was going to be off. I think the answer to your question is most people don't scream their innocence because they're not innocent.
Yeah. 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also, I mean, more than screaming his innocence, the comeback of you're all on drugs, not me.

Speaker 1 That's even better. That's like, I'm so innocent that you're guilty.
I got a contact hype from that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, right. No, he just adds to his legend every time he opens his mouth.
And don't bet against this guy if you're going to the window this weekend, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm not giving you a lien one way or the other, but there are smarter bets in sports for sure than walking to the window and betting against one of these Diaz brothers.

Speaker 1 Yes. So you mentioned BMF title the baddest motherfucker uh nate diaz called out uh mas

Speaker 1 how do i say masvidal yeah masvidal yep okay he called him out uh after the last fight i watched that one and he said he ain't no west coast gangster now are these guys nate diaz is very fascinating to me because he seems like somewhat of a reluctant star that he doesn't actually care as much about the fight promo game so do these guys hate each other respect each other where are they at in that

Speaker 4 there is no hatred to be found. They couldn't possibly respect each other anymore.
And I think when your star power gets to a level of a Nate Diaz, the power of fighting you is a big thing.

Speaker 4 And Nate's not going to give that opportunity to anyone. You know, it means a huge payday.
And in this case, it means a created title for Jorge Masfidal potentially if he wins the fight.

Speaker 4 But not unlike Conor McGregor. You know, I do consider Nate Diaz.
in that class, you know, true bona fide draw top five UFC superstar who deserves to call his shots to some extent.

Speaker 4 And he certainly did in this situation, wanted to give Mas Vidal the fight. You know, Israel Ada Sanya is most people's pick for 2019 fighter of the year.

Speaker 4 But part of the reason Nath has gave Mas Vidal this fight is because of what he's done, obviously, this year in knocking out Darren Till and then the five-second knockout of Ben Asprin.

Speaker 4 Mas Vidal, in a 16-year career, has had a huge year. And again, just both guys just richly deserving of this showcase and this rare opportunity, you know.

Speaker 1 Give us one of the fights leading up to one one of the undercards that has the potential for a quick knockout.

Speaker 4 Well, there's a lot of power going both ways in the co-main event between Kelvin Gasolum and Darren Till.

Speaker 4 You've also got two elite strikers in a feature bat on pay-per-view, Stephen Wannerboy Thompson and Vicente Luke. Vicente Luke is the fighter that nobody's talking about.

Speaker 4 The dude has won six in a row, 10 of 11, 10 UFC wins. He's finished the guy in nine of them.

Speaker 4 And he's going to go after the karate guy, Stephen Waterboy Thompson, who, of course, has fought for the title in this Madison Square Garden before.

Speaker 4 So that's a fight I got my eyes on, but you know, they got to blow it out for Madison Square Gardens. So it's almost like, how much time do you have?

Speaker 4 I mean, we've got a lot of great fights and a very deep five-card pay-per-view, obviously, to end the night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm excited for it. I'm definitely going to be getting it.

Speaker 1 So the thing I love about a big UFC fight card is the upsets and how, you know, this is for boxing fight, you know, MMA.

Speaker 1 You can always have this crazy upset because when they get in the ring, the betting line and what reality is can always can be very different.

Speaker 1 So what is the biggest underdog that you see as like a live underdog that you're like, man, this guy, if he can fight his game, he is going to have a chance to win this thing?

Speaker 4 Well, it's a good question. I can't go too far down that line, obviously, because I'm tall in the fight.

Speaker 4 One thing that I found interesting, right, Darren Till is moving up to middleweight in the Comain event. And this dude is a monster.
I mean, just kicks like a mule, hits like a truck.

Speaker 4 I think this is the right weight class for him, as a lot of people do. He cut massive amounts of weight down to 170 pounds.

Speaker 4 And we've seen a lot of money come in on Kelvin Gasolum because of his UFC credentials, nearly beat Israel out of Sanya in what was an epic five-rounder in April.

Speaker 4 So I think people are sleeping on Darren Till in the co-main event. Even his opponent, Kelvin Gasselam, said to me on Tuesday, he feels like people are sleeping on Darren Till.

Speaker 4 So as that till price creeps closer to plus 200, I'd be surprised if bettors don't have a little bit of an appetite for it, especially because this is the right weight class for Till.

Speaker 4 So unfortunately, my contract prevents me from going to the window. But if Till gets in that plus 200 range, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the sharps be enticed to pull the trick.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's kind of where he's at right now.
I'm looking at plus 205 to minus 240 for Till.

Speaker 1 Let's swing that back. I don't hate the number.

Speaker 4 I love his opponent. Kelvin Gaslam's great, but I don't hate that number.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 so the other thing I had to ask you when you're going into this

Speaker 1 huge card and you have Nate Diaz, is there talking points that Dana White gives you when Darren Revell sends his inevitable tweet saying whoever wins the title fight is not a real star, and it's actually a bad night for UFC?

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, thankfully, there are no talking points.

Speaker 4 I mean, certainly there are general promotional guidelines and things that they would like me to steer away from in a broad general sense, but I promise you, there is nothing WWE about this thing or any pre-prepared storyline.

Speaker 4 The most we go down that line would literally be to have like b-roll prepared on the back end of a pay-per-view for potential next opponents.

Speaker 4 And that's about as far as it goes. Certainly, Mas Fidal and Diaz, I think, both could lay claim to deserving an undisputed title shot if they win this fight.

Speaker 4 But I can assure you, on the game bread side for Mas Fidal, his goal is the undisputed title. He wants all the belts, and that obviously starts with this BMF title here in a few days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Revell treat's coming. You know, he always does it.

Speaker 1 Now it's a game. It's a game between he and Dana.
He will find a way to make whoever wins the UFC big pay-per-view card say that they are not a good enough star and UFC is losing.

Speaker 4 I will have to unmute him for the weekend. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 No, you are kidding. Keep him on your

Speaker 1 block his ass.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying this right here. There's a guy named Johnny Walker fighting.
Can you just give me a reason to bet on Johnny Walker?

Speaker 4 Dude.

Speaker 4 This dude is a monster. I mean, certainly I wouldn't be surprised if people saw value on that side.
I mean, just look at what he's done in the UFC thus far.

Speaker 4 Three wins, all of them very quick, all under two minutes. You You know, the last two, I think, 36 seconds and then maybe 15 seconds.
You know, the highlight reel is going to show you

Speaker 4 PFT

Speaker 4 a bunch of flying knees and crazy highlights, you know, but what it doesn't show you is all the work that he's done over the last eight weeks in Moscow training with Sambo wrestlers and a bunch of maulers and MMA heavyweights in preparation for this challenge against the outstanding aggressor Corey Anderson.

Speaker 4 So Johnny Walker is a stud superstar in the making. He's put in all the right work in Russia and obviously he's got a big showcase spot this weekend.
We'll see if he can take advantage.

Speaker 1 Okay, sold. All right, Johnny Walker.
My last question. We're talking to John Anick.
He's going to be calling UFC 241. You can get it on ESPN Plus.
Is he ESPN Plus? Yeah, ESPN Plus, right?

Speaker 1 But that's my question. ESPN Plus, yeah.
Yeah, how the hell? I can't fucking figure out how to get it on my TV. I can get it on my phone.
What the fuck? I want to be able to just click a button.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so basically ESPN Plus is like the conduit through which you buy the pay-per-view. So it's not like Xfinity or anything like that anymore.
So, but there are a number of ways to do it.

Speaker 4 But my best bet would be go literally on a, on a desktop computer, ESPNplus.com slash PPV, and then it'll populate on all of your devices.

Speaker 1 All right, because it's a TV, so you can't see it on the TV. You know, yeah, like I want to go old school.

Speaker 1 I like to, I like to really like feel it when I hit that, like, oak, do you want to buy this pay-per-view? $69.99. Okay, I like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Do you remember those days? I mean, I've actually had a few pay-per-view nights.

Speaker 4 I feel like Mayweather McGregor, I ended up having to call in and try to order order it old school style with the landline.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the best. Yeah, hitting those, mashing those buttons and hearing them, and then the robot saying, are you sure? Yes.
I hope my parents aren't listening online right now.

Speaker 1 That was the heyday.

Speaker 4 Do you guys have a landline at home or no?

Speaker 1 No, I have a landline. No, you do?

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I think if you're like, if you're a radio guy, right? Like, see, you guys are elite. So, like, we call you as guests.

Speaker 4 But for most radio hits that I do, they call my landline so I can ensure that the signal's clean.

Speaker 1 You guys are not a bad idea. So we're on your landline right now?

Speaker 4 No, because I got to call you guys so I don't dial out from that thing. I don't even know where the phone is.
I got a baby that plays with it. So the battery's probably out of it right now.

Speaker 4 But it's here for emergencies and radio hits.

Speaker 1 Okay, so my last question isn't about the fact that I get frustrated. I can't buy the pay-per-view old school way.
My last question is, when are we going to see Conor McGregor again?

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be January 18th, our first pay-per-view of 2020 in Las Vegas, Nevada. I mean, he has hinted at that date.
Other fighters have hinted that he has contracts in hand.

Speaker 4 So I'm hopeful for January. You know, I thought we'd squeeze him in the fourth quarter of this year, December 14th, but we'll have to sell for three title fights instead that night.

Speaker 4 But I'm hopeful that January 18th, it shall be done.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be Cowboy, right?

Speaker 4 We'll see. You know, I would love to see him fight Justin Gaetchy or Donald Cowboy Cerrone.
I'm not sure he has the appetite for the Gaetchy fight, but I wouldn't want to put words in his mouth.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I think Cerrone's probably got the inside track.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Well,

Speaker 1 have a great call.

Speaker 1 Did people say that?

Speaker 4 I appreciate that, man. Yeah, have a great call.

Speaker 1 Good words. May you have all the best words.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I will take those words and I wish you safe travels to Chicago. Congrats to the Washington Nationals and hope everybody will tune into the pay-per-view this weekend, boys.

Speaker 1 If they can figure out how to fucking buy it.

Speaker 4 I knew that was coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, obviously.

Speaker 1 I'm probably going to text you right before it starts. Be like, you lied to me.
I can't buy it. Here's what we'll do.
We'll give out his number.

Speaker 1 We'll give out John Annick's number on tomorrow's podcast to our listeners.

Speaker 1 And if you have trouble buying the pay-per-view, just call him as he's making the call live, and he will text you back and let you know exactly how to buy it.

Speaker 4 Yep, give out the number. I'll try to text you guys back.

Speaker 1 One by one.

Speaker 1 All right, man. Thanks so much.

Speaker 4 Pleasure, boys. Thank you.

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Speaker 1 Bred. And now, Dean Blandino.
And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on.

Speaker 1 He is, you hear him every single weekend. He is a rules analyst for Fox Sports.
He has a podcast called Good Calls. It's Dean Blandino.
He's been in officiating for many, many years.

Speaker 1 So we have Dean on to talk about the state of officiating. And let's start there.
Can you fix everything, please? We're sick of it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is officiating is never perfect, right? Everybody always has some complaint about officiating.

Speaker 6 I spent 20-something years at the NFL, and it felt like every couple of years, this was the worst it's ever been.

Speaker 6 It does feel the scrutiny is pretty bad right now. And with pass interference review and everything else,

Speaker 6 it's a lot. And we're seeing games impacted by calls, you know, and it's a tough game to officiate, but we need to get these calls right.

Speaker 1 Do you think that we're seeing some of these pass interference calls not overturned just because of the simple fact that referees don't like to admit that they were wrong on a play?

Speaker 6 No, I don't think so. I think when replay first came back, that might have been, there was some hesitancy to overturn calls.
But I think now officials like replay because it helps them get it right.

Speaker 6 Nobody wants a call to affect the outcome of a game. But I just think the standard is so high right now, and it's really changed from where it was earlier in the season.

Speaker 6 But we did get a pass interference overturn in the indie

Speaker 6 Broncos game. And so maybe we'll see some more going forward.

Speaker 1 I should have started here, actually, because I'm always curious. So you've basically been in officiating your entire life, your adult life.
What made you do that? Are you like, you like rules?

Speaker 1 Do you want to be a cop? Like,

Speaker 1 what is appealing to someone being like, I want to be a ref?

Speaker 6 I never wanted to be a ref. It was never.

Speaker 6 I played sports. I love football.
I wanted to stay involved in sports. And I grew up in New York.
I sent my resume to the NFL and they had an internship in officiating.

Speaker 6 And I was like, all right, I don't know anything about officiating. I'm not interested in officiating, but I want to work at the NFL.
So I'll start there, get my foot in the door.

Speaker 6 And then I just kind of went from there. I was surrounded by good people and learned about it, learned the rule book, and ended up just becoming a career.

Speaker 6 It was never really a passion until I really got into it.

Speaker 1 What is your favorite rule?

Speaker 6 Ooh, that's a good question. My favorite rule.

Speaker 6 My favorite rule is

Speaker 6 maybe the illegal touching rule. And I think that might be my favorite rule because that can expand beyond football.
No means no.

Speaker 6 No, exactly. Exactly.
But it's a rule that a lot of people don't understand. And sometimes it gets complicated.

Speaker 6 We like complicated rules because rules analysts then keep their jobs. So that's important for us.

Speaker 1 So you've had a lot of your background is in instant replay. You've been working in instant replay with the NFL and college football football for a very long time now.

Speaker 1 I've noticed that it seems like there is a push to have instant replays be more game speed and not this slow frame by frame. Is that a mandate that's coming down from the top in the NFL?

Speaker 1 Are they trying to make this

Speaker 1 more, I don't know, sensible to the regular fan watching it instead of making it this super slow-mo where it has nothing to do with what the game that's being played on the field looks like?

Speaker 6 Well, I don't know if it's a mandate, but I think, you know, when I was there, that was always something we were really aware of because you want it to be obvious, right?

Speaker 6 And if I have to slow it down, go frame by frame and overanalyze it and piece angles together, that's not obvious. So if you can see it in real time, then it's obvious.

Speaker 6 And I think that's where the league needs to stay, any league that has replay. Because again, if we get overly technical, then that's not obvious.

Speaker 1 Do you think that there's a problem occurring in the NFL where they're taking those that have the most amount amount of expertise, like yourself, Mike Pereira.

Speaker 1 You're getting all these contracts from civilian companies, not the NFL.

Speaker 1 There's the rules analyst industrial complex that is taking away the most talented, knowledgeable people out of the game and putting them on TV.

Speaker 6 I think there's, look, good referees have left in the last couple of years. Gene Sterator, John Perry, Terry McCauley, a lot of good referees have left.

Speaker 6 And I think that's a concern. I think the league needs to put resources behind officiating.
They need to make sure that good people stay and whether it's on the field or in the office.

Speaker 6 And because as we all see every week, officiating impacts games and you want the best officiating. And I think the league has to continue to put resources behind it.

Speaker 1 What's so Al Riveron's obviously been getting a lot of heat. Is that position just a thankless job that has like no win to it?

Speaker 1 Or is there something that he can specifically do to maybe get people to change their perception of officiating in the NFL?

Speaker 6 It's definitely a tough job, and sometimes it's a thankless job. And so it's hard for whether it's Al Riveron or myself or Pereira, whoever was in that seat, you're always going to be a target.

Speaker 6 And I think the one thing the league can do is just continue to try to be transparent and just be just be a normal person. You know, don't hide behind the shield.
Come out.

Speaker 6 If we screwed it up, hey, look, we screwed it up.

Speaker 6 Here's why we're working to get better versus just, you know, only talking about the calls we get right or overly defending calls and just being transparent. I think people will appreciate that.

Speaker 6 And I think that's something they could definitely do.

Speaker 1 I saw it earlier today.

Speaker 1 Bruce Arians was saying that there's no accountability in place for NFO officials. I don't think that's necessarily true.

Speaker 1 I think that there is, you know, you guys have certain accountability things in place, but what are, what have you heard from head coaches?

Speaker 1 Like, what do head coaches want to instill in terms of accountability?

Speaker 6 Yeah, and I know Bruce and we're pretty close, and I think he's just letting off steam. I think he gets it.
He knows that officials are held accountable. It's just not, it's not like a public thing.

Speaker 6 It's not, you don't fire officials in the middle of the season and make it a big deal. It happens during the offseason.
They're graded on every call.

Speaker 6 And those grades impact their livelihood and whether they get postseason assignments or whether they get retained.

Speaker 6 So I think you talk to coaches, coaches want consistency and they want accountability.

Speaker 6 Coaches lose their jobs, players get cut, and so they want to make sure that the officials are held accountable.

Speaker 6 And they are, and Bruce knows that, but it's frustrating when you lose a game the way he lost that game yesterday

Speaker 6 on a missed call, really, that took away a touchdown. I don't blame a coach for being upset.
And obviously, he's going to, you know, he's going to want to point the finger a little bit.

Speaker 1 Is there a,

Speaker 1 we always kind of assume that the pendulum swings back and forth where if we have a weekend where there's a ton of maybe uh high-profile calls, the next weekend NFL officials will swallow their whistle a little bit, so to speak.

Speaker 1 Does that happen? Is that a natural thing or is it is it something that's talked about? Like, hey, we've screwed up a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 Let's let these guys play a little bit more than we might have last week.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you know, it's an interesting point. It doesn't, it doesn't happen.
Like, it's never, at least in my time, it was never a directive. Hey, there's been some controversy.

Speaker 6 Let's let them play this week. You always just want to officiate the game, however, it's presented.
But it's definitely a factor when you have a week.

Speaker 6 You know, you go back whenever that Monday night game was, the Lions and the Packers, and everyone was talking about officiating. And then the following week, it was quieter.

Speaker 6 And so I don't think it's a conscious thing, but again, these are all human beings. And I can't sit here and say, hey, we're in the news right now.
Let's back off a little bit and maybe

Speaker 6 let it die down a little bit. And then it could happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I've noticed that your personal attire has changed over the years.
There was a moment where you would go on TV, you wouldn't be wearing a tie, kind of like the Andrew Yang style.

Speaker 1 And nowadays, you're always, at least what I've seen recently, wearing a tie. Is that something that you made a conscious decision to change? It'd be like, I need to present myself as a tie guy.

Speaker 6 I need to step it up a little bit. I need to be more professional.
I think that's just a Fox sports thing: is whenever we're on the air,

Speaker 6 we're suit and tie.

Speaker 6 You know, Pereira goes three-piece. I'm not a three-piece guy, so I'll go more two-piece.
But, you know, if I could, I'd do it in a t-shirt. I'd like the casual look much better.

Speaker 1 Do you and Mike have a competition? Do you keep track of who gets the most calls correct?

Speaker 6 He does. He definitely does.
He keeps track. He won't tell me, but he definitely keeps track.

Speaker 6 There's a little rules analyst kind of, you know, some tension. You know, Mike and myself, you've got CBS Hesterator, Macaulay.

Speaker 6 There's a little, we're going to do a behind the scenes one day about all the rules analysts. It's going to be unbelievable.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 So you work in the college game as well, more in the offseason. What is a rule the college game or the NFL game could take from the college game?

Speaker 1 Maybe your favorite rule in the college game that you could see graduating to the pros and them adopting it?

Speaker 6 Well, I like if we're going to review, I'd rather have the NFL review player safety fouls like college rules targeting versus pass interference.

Speaker 6 I think pass interference is way too subjective, and all we end up doing is just debating it further. And so, I like the idea of reviewing, you know, those are 15-yard penalties.

Speaker 6 They're big penalties. Obviously, it's an ejection in college, but I would like to see some form of replay on some of these rough in the passer calls or hits on defenseless players.

Speaker 6 I think that makes more sense for the NFL.

Speaker 1 I agree with that because pass interference, you can can see pass interference on every play or you can not see pass interference on every play.

Speaker 1 But having the ability to maybe review some of these plays where the guys fall on the quarterback and it's really not that hard, but you watch it and you're like, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 1 That's really what should be being reviewed.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I like that because like the three of us could look at 100 pass interference calls and we might not agree on

Speaker 6 10 of them. And I think that player safety stuff, I think it's still subjective, but it's a little bit less subjective.

Speaker 1 I want to go back in time. This is a few years ago.
You made the news, probably for a reason that you didn't want to be in the news. And I think you know where I'm going with this.

Speaker 1 You were photographed getting off of Jerry Jones' party bus. I am of the mindset that if Jerry Jones invites you onto your party bus, you go because it's probably a hell of a time.

Speaker 1 I want to know how hard Jerry put the screws to you to try to influence you while he was pouring Johnny Walker blue down your throat.

Speaker 6 He, so here's the so Jerry wasn't on the bus that that day that was that was steven um jones was on the bus that day and and i'm like you said he's i worked for the nfl at that time i got 32 bosses i've got every all the owners are are my bosses so if one of my bosses says hey we're gonna go on a party bus and we're gonna go down sunset boulevard and we're gonna go to a club i'm in right and then you know then we get on the bus what happens on the bus stays on the bus i can't really go into too much detail but uh but jerry was not on the bus that night

Speaker 1 That's so he says, I don't buy that, yeah, I don't buy that. I think Jerry lives on the bus,

Speaker 6 he's always there in spirit, yes, he's always

Speaker 6 there in spirit. And there's actually a giant, there's there's like a giant photo of him on one wall on the bus, and the eyes follow you, yeah, yeah, follow you everywhere you go.

Speaker 1 Were you surprised that that became a big story?

Speaker 6 I was, I was. I mean, look, I'm I'm by no means was I a celebrity or am I a celebrity at now? And and it was one, it was one sports writer who saw a quick glimpse and

Speaker 6 wanted to make it a story, a conflict of interest deal. And that's the thing.
When you're in a role, you're building relationships. I've hung out with

Speaker 6 head coaches, owners, general managers.

Speaker 6 You're trying to build those relationships because if you have better relationships, then they're going to be more likely to listen to you when there is something controversial as it pertains to officiating.

Speaker 6 So I didn't think it was a big deal. I was with, you know, my buddy Jay Glazer, and we still joke about it today.

Speaker 1 Jay's everywhere. He's everywhere.
Everywhere. Do you work out at Jay's

Speaker 1 gym?

Speaker 6 I've been there. I don't do it regularly because

Speaker 6 I try to keep my Jay Glazer intake, you know,

Speaker 6 not just moderation

Speaker 6 type thing.

Speaker 6 But I have been there.

Speaker 6 It's definitely an experience.

Speaker 1 All right. So my last question.
We're talking to Dean Blandino. You can listen to his podcast called Good Calls.
My last question is the onside kick.

Speaker 1 Why have we ruined it? And can we please bring it back? It sucks that at the end of games, there's no chance an on-side kick's going to be recovered.

Speaker 6 You're absolutely right. And we were talking about this the other day.
The on-site kick with all the changes now, it used to be like a 13%

Speaker 6 success rate. Last year, it went down to 8%.
Now we're under 4%. And literally.

Speaker 6 If you don't have an on-site kick, then two-score game, three-score game late in the fourth quarter, you got no chance. And so the league definitely has to look at this

Speaker 6 because that's going to promote comebacks. And if you don't, and I don't know how you guys feel, but I don't like, I would hate to see a gimmick play like a fourth and 10 or whatever it is.

Speaker 6 I like the kickoff, but I think they need to figure out a way to make it a, you know, a higher percentage play.

Speaker 1 What about that Justin Tucker kickoff that he hit a couple weeks ago where he did the drop kick, but he let it bounce too high? At what point does the ball bounce too high?

Speaker 1 Because isn't that still a drop kick?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so by rule, it has to, you have to kick the ball as it touches the ground or immediately after so again it's subjective but you can't i don't know they i guess they told the ravens it was okay then they told them it wasn't okay but i think you got to like kind of as soon as it hits the ground or immediately after you got to hit it and he let it bounce he let it bounce too high or how about this what if you kick off and if you hit the upright then your team gets the ball at the 35 yard line that's not bad i kind of like that's i think there's a lot of options and keep the kick in the game Like, there was one I heard where you kick off and you have a returner in the end zone, and you got to get it to the end line.

Speaker 6 And if he can stop it, then it's no good. But if you could kick it past him over the end line, then it's good.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah, that's kind of like a soccer thing.
Yep, it makes soccer. Exactly.
Like goalie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
There you go.

Speaker 4 I think we came up with it. There we go.

Speaker 1 All right, Dean. Thank you so much.
Anytime you're in New York, please stop by.

Speaker 1 We'd love to have you. Yeah, we'd love to have you in person.
And congrats on being like a narc your whole life. I don't really know.
I mean, it's crazy that you've made a profession out of this.

Speaker 6 Made a profession out of it.

Speaker 1 21%.

Speaker 1 There you go. Cool, cool.
All right. Thanks so much, Dean.
Appreciate it, man.

Speaker 6 Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get some segments. First up, we have our Fire Fest.
Hank, why don't you start off with your Fire Fest? My Fire Fest, I woke up. This actually happened to me this morning.

Speaker 1 I woke up in the middle of the night. I had a little Doug Marone, baloney, London situation going on in my stomach.
No.

Speaker 1 I woke up, walked to the bathroom, I was half asleep, and I sat down and just fell straight in the toilet. Oh, you didn't drop the seat? Didn't drop the seat.

Speaker 1 You should get mad at your girlfriend for not leaving the seat down. Yep.
It's probably her fault. It's on her.

Speaker 1 And I just sat there and I was half asleep, and I just sat there and just like, I took me, I just sat there for like 30 seconds. I was just like, oh, also, you guys.
It really just happened.

Speaker 1 This is an instance where it would have been helpful to have an ass. Yeah.
Yep. Did you get in the shower?

Speaker 1 No. Oh,

Speaker 1 I just wiped it down.

Speaker 1 But yeah, when you've got the middle of the night, Doug Morone and Bologna situation. It was clean.

Speaker 1 You're never clean after that. Did you drink out of that toilet? Nope.
Okay. Well,

Speaker 1 okay. All right.
Yeah. All right.
Okay. Okay.
Fine. All right.
How's the diarrhea now?

Speaker 1 It's gone. We're all wondering.
We're good. It's gone down? Yeah.
Okay. Have you showered since then? Yes.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFT, what church? My fire fest of the week is just following along to the Trent Williams trade news out of Ashburn, Virginia for the Redskins.
So today, he said that

Speaker 1 he was misdiagnosed six years ago by the Redskins medical staff. Cancer has been growing on his head

Speaker 1 for the last six years. They told him it was fine.
He said he almost died. He went to the hospital for several weeks over the summer.
No one from the team came to visit him.

Speaker 1 And then when he came back, he reported to the team right after the trade deadline and immediately said, this helmet is uncomfortable, so I'm going to feel my physical.

Speaker 1 So he's doing the A-B model, trying to get traded. Next, he'll call Bruce Allen the cracker.
Yep. And then he'll be shipped out of town because

Speaker 1 they don't tolerate racial slurs for the Redskins. Correct.
They will not currently for that.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 deserve every bad thing in the world. I agree.
It's terrible.

Speaker 1 How mad do you think Snyder is watching DC teams win and he's not doing anything? No, he probably thinks that, like, ooh, this is, we're next. Oh, he just believes in the luck of it.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, this is definitely going to come around. I said earlier today that I think the Redskins are more likely to win a World Series than they are Super Bowl in the next five years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree. I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Just by like a random shit show of occurrences, they somehow become a major league team. The Nationals changing their name to the Redskins.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 That has more likely than the Redskins winning a Super Bowl. Absolutely.
All right, my fire press, I got two. One is October's over.
That always sucks. It's the best month.

Speaker 1 In October, you can delude yourself into thinking that it's not getting colder. Right.
That it's November, it's like you're about to get smacked in the face with Freddie Shivers. It is, it sucks.

Speaker 1 Not only that, but also October has every sport, and it's the best, and it's like every night is a sporting event. It's a lot of work, but it's also just the best.

Speaker 1 Can I give you something to kind of numb that pain a little bit? Yeah. I think we have 27 consecutive nights of football starting now.
Perfect. Wait.
Yes, because Maxion's back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. This is, we're going to get that stretch.
We also have college basketball back, which is really when I started losing all my money. It moved when I said that out loud.

Speaker 1 27 nights of football. I'm so excited for Maxion.
There's no way I make it through No Not November. My other fire fest is a pre-fire fest.

Speaker 1 I am am taking a four-month-old on a plane tomorrow to Chicago. So big fire fest.
So, so scared.

Speaker 1 Are you doing the thing where you're making little packages to hand out to people sitting next to you, being like, I'm sorry, I have a kid. Here are your earplugs.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just going to death stare the fuck out of people. I've been practicing my whole life for the death stare.
Yeah, I actually don't like it when people hand me those earplugs and stuff.

Speaker 1 It's like, I can handle a baby. Yes.

Speaker 1 So it's going to, we'll see. He's a good baby, but man, I don't, I just don't know what to expect.
So that will be, we'll see on Sunday.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you guys how terrible it was and how I'm never flying with my baby again.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do a quick this league because this league is trying to steal every headline in October, in November. Holy shit, this league.
Steph Curry. This league.
Injured.

Speaker 1 This motherfucking league. Cat.
Warriors are dead.

Speaker 1 Warriors Karma is empty. They emptied the tank on the karma? Steph Curry is trash.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
What? Oh, yeah. Why?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? He doesn't have the help around him, and clearly, as he's in the middle of the day, he just broke his hand. Broken hand.
That was like LeBron. That was as LeBron as it gets.

Speaker 1 Pretty much.

Speaker 1 Wait till your absolute team is doing terrible and the season's already gutter in the deck of the game. Oh, they're one and threes.
Yeah, spin zone.

Speaker 1 You would much rather have him get injured right now.

Speaker 1 It's actually better for the Warriors if he gets injured right now because then they get the younger players more minutes out there and he's going to come back.

Speaker 1 They're going to make the playoffs anyway, so it doesn't really matter about seeding. Could you imagine if the Warriors tanked and got the one pick? Oh, my God.
That would be

Speaker 1 whatever. Okay.

Speaker 1 I am looking forward to the next one. Maybe they traded it.
Hopefully, they traded it. What if, in like two weeks, they're on a five or six-game winning streak, and we start to get a take?

Speaker 1 Are the Warriors better without Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, and Kevin Durant? I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
All right, so that's the first this league.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the Warriors, Kevin Durant said that Draymond Green was the reason why he left. Did he say that exactly? No, but he admitted he was like, on the first take with Stephen A.

Speaker 1 and Kellerman, they asked him, was like, was that part of the reason you left? And he was like, yeah, it bothered me. And they were both, Kellerman was legit like taking him back.

Speaker 1 He was like, wait, he answered this honestly. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 Can you expand on that? And he was like, yeah, I mean, honestly, when someone that you play with says something like that, like, it affects you and it bothers you. Yeah.
And it did.

Speaker 1 Okay, and I actually love the honesty there. And I also have no problem with Traymond Green being Draymond Green because

Speaker 1 he is the heart and soul of the Warriors, and his

Speaker 1 maybe brash style is a lot of the reason why they had success. So, you take the good with the bad.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 With Kevin Durant on first take, I think they should just give him his own show for this entire year.

Speaker 1 And his own show should just be him responding to people on Twitter instead of going at him and tweeting or using burner accounts.

Speaker 1 Just like a live feed of Kevin Durant reading his mentions and then roasting everybody. I like that.
I like that. So, that's a this league.

Speaker 1 And then we had Carl Anthony Towns and Joel Elmbi getting a fight, and Ben Simmons hopped in and gave Carl Anthony Towns a rear-naked chokehold, made him tap. Literally, he tapped.

Speaker 1 It's never happened in hockey. It's never happened in hockey.
Then

Speaker 1 on top of that, this league and Biade walking off the court, Kat's mom was yelling at him, Kat, you got to get your mom better seats. That was embarrassing.

Speaker 1 And then it turned into a grand fest. And then a graham fest and a Twitter fest where they basically called each other bitches.

Speaker 1 And then Joel Embiid said he was raised with lions, so he didn't care when a little cat scratched him, which was awesome. I think Joelle bringing Jimmy Butler in it for no reason.
Jimmy Butler, yeah.

Speaker 1 Not part of it, but part of it. Didn't he basically say, like, I know Jimmy, I know secrets about you, cat? Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 That's kind of a bullshit thing to do. No, but Jimmy Butler was like, yeah, it's funny.
Like, I knew it was coming. Like, once I saw the fight, he was like, I knew I was going to get

Speaker 1 brought into it somehow, and I knew it was going to be a joke. Jimmy Joel.
He's a little boy, but I knew that I was going to get brought into this somehow. He is not a man who keeps secrets.

Speaker 1 I can tell you that much.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, Joel Embiid said, I am not a bitch. and uh no cap no cap and it's awesome i love this i i love this

Speaker 1 didn't get any suspensions they got two games each in seasons and then jay crowder this league which i liked jay crowder tweeted it was like oh you only get two games for punching someone in the face with like the thinking emojis so he's like looking at the schedule like all right who am i gonna

Speaker 1 get who am i playing the two games after let's go there's something awesome about watching two seven footers fight yeah like a couple giraffes just hitting their necks against each other

Speaker 1 it was great but if you fall from that if you just fall down as as a seven-footer and you hit your head on the ground, it's over. Yeah.
So it's a strategic advantage to be shorter in that situation.

Speaker 1 Joelle Embiid,

Speaker 1 I threw this out there earlier, but like, is there a city that loves a player more than Joel Embiid is loved in Philly?

Speaker 1 Hmm. It is.

Speaker 1 He is Philly at this point. Like, he's a walking sound clip.
He's getting in fights. He's talking about how he's been raised by lions.
I ain't no bitch.

Speaker 1 Other than just being wildly out of shape every spring and them not being able to get out of the second round, I don't think

Speaker 1 he can do any wrong in Philadelphia. I would say that he is the most beloved sports figure in a given city that hasn't really won anything.
Correct.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe Gordon Hayward in Boston. They love him there.
They're back, though. Yeah, Gordon Hayward is a bad guy.
And he's playing well, yeah.

Speaker 1 They killed Giannis last night. Second half, come back.
Giannis. Team's firing on all cylinders.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So didn't one of these guys apologize on Instagram? Or they tried to squash it at the end? No.
I think one of them stopped it. No cap.
No.

Speaker 1 No. Cat.
No cap to ask. What does no cap mean? No cap, bro.
It means no cap. No cap.
Yeah. No cap.
Okay, no cap.

Speaker 1 You know what no cap means. No, I know what dry stage means.
You don't know what no cap means. Yes, right.
Your cap. I don't know what that means.
No cap. All right.
Hats off to you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a sign of respect. No, Embiid accused.
It's like the little kid in the gif. Yes.
There you go. Embed accused Cat of deleting his Instagram comments.
Oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's some heavy shit going down right now. Yes.
Don't delete another man's comments. Big no-no.
Big no-no. Okay, let's finish up.
We got FAQs

Speaker 1 and we also have an exit interview with our darling Jake, who's going back to be the voice of Vermont Catamounts basketball radio. And so make sure you check it out.

Speaker 1 Listen to America. America's team.
We will be following along. We're jazzed up for the season.
Before we do that, though, we have another thing we got to address.

Speaker 1 Liam, Bubba, our darling Bubba is going to to a dead and company show on Friday night Bubba are you excited

Speaker 1 I don't really know what to think yeah you asked for

Speaker 1 and I said I needed help because I knew he was a fan and I don't know a single song it's all one song it's all one song true so all you need to know is one song yeah pretty much Bill Walton is like the only knowledge I have of the Grateful Dead okay so I wrote down a couple things you're not gonna learn the songs fast enough because you have 24 hours so if you want I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I texted him and I was like, send me a playlist of like the ones I need to know. That never is going to work.
It's never going to work.

Speaker 1 Touch a gray. Listen to Touch and Gray.
I looked at what they've been playing. If you want to try to listen to Scarlett Pogoni's and Terrapin Station and maybe

Speaker 1 Standing on the Moon. Standing on the Moon, which makes me cry every time I listen to it, they might play those.

Speaker 1 All right, here's the first one. It's all one song.
I already wrote that down.

Speaker 1 When you go in, there's going to be a lot of people outside saying they need a miracle or they need a kick down to get down. They're just asking for a ticket.
Okay?

Speaker 1 You got that? Okay. So don't give them a ticket.
Okay.

Speaker 1 When they play, they do drum solos during every single concert.

Speaker 1 This is tricky because you'd think this is the time to go take a piss or get a beer, but that's what everyone's thinking.

Speaker 1 So you got to try to figure out when to take a piss or get a beer right before drum solo. Okay? Or maybe after.
How would I time that? Well, it's like the seventh inning stretch.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen in the second set at some point.

Speaker 1 And if you can do it, if you can see it coming and you can get out into the hallway fast enough, you'd be okay. But everyone goes and takes a piss during the drum solo.

Speaker 1 My way to time it would be once you start to hear the wolf sound effects to chime in. Because I've seen them one time, and there were just these wolves that started howling.

Speaker 1 I was like, that's fucked up. There's some wolves here.
And then it led its way into a drum solo. No idea if they still do that.
But if you hear the wolves, time to go drain the lizard.

Speaker 1 The first set's going to be faster, shorter songs. The second set is going to be when you're going to want to get really high because it's longer jams.
He's going to be high going into it. Right.

Speaker 1 All right. Speaking of high, good point, PFT.
Thanks for bringing that up, drug guy. Is Jan going? Is Jan going? Smelling salts?

Speaker 1 The first thing you're going to want to do before you go into the show or before you meet up with your friends to go to the show is just delete the Twitter app from your phone. Yes, that is.

Speaker 1 I already did.

Speaker 1 If you're going to be doing mushrooms or acid, do it about an hour before you go in the show. Okay.
So you are going to be doing one of those. Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 You failed. People are going to pass you weed.
Make sure if you bring weed to pass it to other people around you. Okay.

Speaker 1 You might get an STD or a random cough or something but that's okay you don't want to be the narc who like the people standing around you they're your family dude vibe vibe equals tribe okay that's true

Speaker 1 yeah that that's true but that's your tribe okay so that will happen like the people in front of you people next to you they will pass you a bowl do not turn it down And when you bring out your joint or whatever you're bringing, you better pass it back.

Speaker 1 It's all one bong. Okay? That's pretty much true.

Speaker 1 Gooballs, if you want a gooball, those are like little things.

Speaker 1 They basically just mash a bunch of shit together and there's weed in it, but usually there's not weed in it, and they're just fucking scamming you. So don't even get a goo ball.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, when someone says, I need a miracle outside, my instinct would be to just pass them a joint at that point. No, they're looking for a ticket.
Okay, but they'll probably also take a joint.

Speaker 1 And they got one hip finger up. They're going to be walking around with one finger up.
All right, dancing. You're going to have to dance.
Okay. I can do that.
Okay, but it's not aggressively.

Speaker 1 It's more of a like

Speaker 1 white old dad at a wedding dance. So you're going to get up, you're going to be stiff, but you just kind of move with it because if you dance too much, you're the person who did too much acid, okay?

Speaker 1 And if you dance too little, you're the person who did way too much acid. So if you're sitting down or you're standing still, you are in trouble with how much acid you did.
Got it? Okay.

Speaker 1 Just move at a medium pace. Medium press.

Speaker 1 And you're going to have to stand up. Make sure you sit down

Speaker 1 in between sets because you're going to have to stand up for the rest of the show. Drink a lot of water before.

Speaker 1 And then the other thing I wrote down, let's see, Pass Weed, it's all one song. Yeah, I think you're good.
I think you're good to go.

Speaker 1 Just, you know, oh, don't wear cargo shorts because then you're a cop. That's Alpine Valley in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 Every cop wears cargo shorts. So don't wear cargo shorts, okay? Okay.
How about basketball shorts? What's a good attire to put on? Yeah,

Speaker 1 November. Oh, yeah, good point.
Put on hoodie's going. It's always short season.

Speaker 1 Don't wear a hat. Let your hair flow.
People will actually think that you're like, you might actually be able to sell them some goo balls. Okay.

Speaker 1 So on your way out, just grab like maybe a couple munchkins and mash them together. And then just start selling them in a plastic bag for $20.

Speaker 1 Okay? Also request Freebird. They'll love it.
Yes. It'll kill.
They will always play Freebird if you ask. All right.
Let's finish with our exit interview. Jake, do you have anything you want to say?

Speaker 1 Oh, you're supposed to interview us. That's what an exit interview is.
Oh, okay. No, that's okay, Jake.
How was you? You are now graduating. You're still going to be involved.
Yes.

Speaker 1 You're still going to be part of this show.

Speaker 1 We hired you how long ago? When did you start? Beginning of June. Holy shit.
What did you learn while you were here?

Speaker 1 Just question someone actually wrote this in, and they said, based on your interning. Oh, wait.
What's the weirdest question you asked Jake in his Barcelona interview?

Speaker 1 But Jake, you should answer the question. What's the weirdest question you were asked?

Speaker 1 You guys had me do a play-by-play pretending Syracuse was playing football and Donovan McNabb was under center and he just puked on the field. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 Did Greg Pollocks make an appearance in that too?

Speaker 1 Yes. I think he did.
Yeah, it was a dual quarterback system. Yeah, that was good.
You did well on that. You passed.
So I think that started off well.

Speaker 1 What was the funnest fact that you tweeted out or learned this summer as far as sports biz goes? Ooh, great question, Pia. Thank you.
That's tough. There's so many.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was your favorite moment? Let's go with that. Or your favorite interaction on Twitter?

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 all-star game, Reuben. Oh,

Speaker 1 spelling of the Reuben.

Speaker 1 Yes. That was good.
Yes. That or the XFL 40 was nice.
Yes. This is not your content.
It was a seminal moment in your young career. I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 Have you been secretly back channeling with Ravel at all? I have not had any contact. Okay, good.
Okay, you don't have anything.

Speaker 1 When you met him, when you were at that combine, you didn't exchange numbers or anything like that? I did not.

Speaker 1 Do you think this is the summer that you've surpassed? Because Ravel's had a bad run of it. I feel like, I mean, he just, what did he just sat with fucking Mattress Mac for a television series?

Speaker 1 Like, his whole life now is just chasing people around who have big bets on things. Yeah.
So he's at least his mom to hang out with him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't want to be cocky about it, but, like, it's been.

Speaker 1 But it seems like on Twitter, the people side with me.

Speaker 1 Your engagement rate is higher.

Speaker 1 So even though. But I don't have.

Speaker 1 What was his line? Don't spend as much time with data as he does. Don't get into data war.
Don't get into data war with Rose. You're not ready for a data war yet.

Speaker 1 You're still in data basic training right now. Right.
Right, right. Okay, so

Speaker 1 yeah, go ahead. We have questions, Hank.
Based on your intern experience, who would live longer in the wilderness with only a machete? Mr. Cat or Mr.
Commodore? Reasons, please.

Speaker 1 Throwing Hank there, too. Mr.
Walkwood.

Speaker 1 Well, if you have a machete, you need to have some swollenness to you. Okay.
And you don't go to the gym unless you tweet about it. So Mr.
Cat's the only one that tweets about going to the gym. Nice.

Speaker 1 Good point. Lower body.
I do squats and squats. Yeah, but if you don't tweet about it, it, it doesn't count.
Good point. Squats and squats over.
That's between me and God.

Speaker 1 I do tweet about going to the gym, even sometimes when I don't go to the gym.

Speaker 1 Question for Darling Drake. As a Syracuse alum and current UVM announcer, how do you handle the UVM upset of Syracuse in the 2005 tournament? A horrible tragedy or a great moment to never forget?

Speaker 1 How old were you? 10. Okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't grow up a Syracuse fan.

Speaker 1 But now that you know this. But now I know.
People ask me all the time if they play each other in this year's tournament, I would root for Vermont. Because

Speaker 1 that's

Speaker 1 my answer. My personal life was

Speaker 1 wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's the wrong answer. You should root for nobody.
You should root for the storyline. Shit.
Jake, what have you learned this summer? Come on.

Speaker 1 No, although he's the home radio guy, so he's actually.

Speaker 1 He's not a national guy.

Speaker 1 Your pulse can quicken and your voice can show excitement, but you can't clap. I can't clap.
You cannot clap. No clapping in the press.
Your hands must never touch one another. Yes.
You understand?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fine. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Do you you have any others, Hank? Jake, how much can you bench?

Speaker 1 Good question. Nothing.
Well, I tore it. I tore my labor on senior year of high school and have not benched since.
Okay. What were you benching when you tore it? I don't remember.
Dog.

Speaker 1 I fork you, dude.

Speaker 1 Fuck you up. How did you tear it?

Speaker 1 Playing tackle football with my friends. Okay.
All right. It was actually tennis.
We know it was tennis. Yeah.
No, left the ones. Here's an FAQ for you guys.

Speaker 1 Do the guys ever actually listen to Jake's Sports Biz Minute or do they just wait a couple seconds and say, very cool since it's edited after the fact? Very cool question.

Speaker 1 By the way, I like those Sports Biz minutes and think they are actually very cool. Very cool, very cool question.
Very cool job. Thanks, Jake.

Speaker 1 That was good.

Speaker 1 Very cool. We listened to in the morning after.
No, I never listened to you that. I've never listened to one.
Unless one of you are in here. That's true.
But I appreciate this.

Speaker 1 Every now and then, we randomly walk in the studio and he's taping it. I'm like, oh, shit.
I heard a little bit of that. Sometimes you'll retweet me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that counts as listening. I don't actually.
That's for the numbers.

Speaker 1 I'm actually, you know what? Here's a compliment. Jake, thank you for not saying anything wildly offensive when I retweet the sports biz minute without watching it.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. Here's the compliment.

Speaker 1 Jake, thanks for not tweeting out a picture of my penis or my phone number. Yes.
Not every intern gets through an entire summer not doing that. That's trust.
Any others, Hank?

Speaker 1 This was not related to Jake, but I was curious too, because I don't even know if this is a real thing. But it said, hey, world champion, PFT.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing Eric Church in concert tomorrow with my girlfriend, Brag.

Speaker 1 Can you you please explain your beef with the chief all right he's got terrible babip is my problem with eric do you have beef with eric church i i do have a little bit of beef with eric church and my my beef stems from the fact that one time when i was in austin i got tickets to go see a concert right and then i accidentally went to the concert a week early it was on a tuesday i didn't know that went the wrong tuesday

Speaker 1 and no i was not i was not intoxicated Maybe a little bit and I get there and the guy's like yeah we actually have a different show tonight Do you want to just go into that one? I was like, Who is it?

Speaker 1 I was like, Eric Church. So I was like, Sure.
I walk in. The entire balcony was empty.
It was like me and two other people who were also letting for free.

Speaker 1 And then he came out like 30 minutes late, played a bunch of songs, played some of them twice because he was recording it for a DVD special. And so it was just, in general, a low-T show.
Got it.

Speaker 1 That was my first experience with him. It was not the concert I intended to go to that night.
Therefore, I have a bad taste in my mouth. I am out.
And for that reason, I am out on Eric Church. Okay.

Speaker 1 Any others?

Speaker 1 It's okay if we don't have any others. Are you related to yourself? Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I have relations with myself sometimes twice a day.
Yeah, no, you're related to yourself, right?

Speaker 1 Whoa. Whoa.

Speaker 1 All right, let's finish with Jake. Thank you for all your hard work.
And again, he's not going to be gone. He's gone, but he's not gone.
Not by it. See you later.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Unlike some of our other interns, he's not going to disappear and never come back. So he is going to still be involved.
He still has his Twitter account, PMT Sports Biz.

Speaker 1 He's going to be blogging stuff. He's going to be doing some PMT Sports Biz minutes.
We're going to see him every now and then and listen to Vermont Catamount's basketball radio. And

Speaker 1 I'm excited for the season.

Speaker 1 I will follow the season now. I'll pay attention to it, especially if they go on a little run.
Can I plug the

Speaker 1 games? Yeah. We're on 101.3 the game in Burlington, Vermont.
Okay. You can follow me at JakeMarsh18

Speaker 1 pregame, post-game, in-game highlights. Whatever you need, cat him out basketball.
What about your IG handle? You got an IG handle. Jake Marsh 18 as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, trying to get up to 100K for Jake Marsh. And we have...
Sadly for the girls, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we have a friend of the program, noted weightlifter, Ryan Rossill, is doing one of your intros this year. Yeah, he's going to be doing my pump-up pregame for the season.

Speaker 1 It's basically like the Electric Avenue for Vermont basketball. Okay.
Wow.

Speaker 1 It'll come out mid-next week. Should be fun.
Okay, I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Do you think Russell probably, like, his ego is probably hurt a little bit because

Speaker 1 SVP just did LSU

Speaker 1 night game pump up, and he's doing the radio for, but he's scored for doing it. When this team makes a little run in the tournament.
That's true. Yeah.
That's true.

Speaker 1 And Russell's got a good sense of humor. If we can get Hank to do like a Gold's Gym promo, a Gold's Gym commercial, that'd be the trifecta disappointment tomorrow.

Speaker 1 So shout out to Ryan for doing that. Check out Jake.
He's going to have that next week. So, Jake, thank you.
Thank you. Not goodbye.
See you later. And we will see you later.
Love you guys.