Triple H, Nats Win, And Big Ben's Elbow Cast

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On today's part in my take, we have Triple H, the game. We went up to WWE headquarters.

Speaker 1 We sat across the room from Vince McMahon. We felt his presence and we interviewed Triple H.
We also have playoff baseball, postseason baseball, game one, wild card, NL,

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Today is Wednesday, October 2nd, and Natitude is back.

Speaker 1 Natitude is back in a big way. This is a milestone for Washington Sports, the Nationals' first postseason series win of all time.
I'm very excited. 11 more.
We just got 11 more.

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Speaker 1 PFT is full kit wanker i'm well i'm looking good i'm half kit wanker i wish you had gone baseball pants well i don't own baseball pants you gotta you gotta rectify that i think anytime somebody buys an adult male buys a pair of baseball pants they should be put on a no-fly list so we'll just have uh bubba buy them for you yeah bubba you can buy them i want misses his flights anyway i want yeah there you go you don't need to fly at all i'll have metal spikes i'll have a belt i'll have the stirrup socks the whole nine yards i'm excited i'm excited and i can't help but be excited because uh it's a big deal in Washington to win a playoff series.

Speaker 1 Trent Grisham yikes. So that is the name of your go-to not in a good way.

Speaker 1 Basically, a little league play. Like what you're taught right away.
Don't let the ball get by you. Get in front of that ball.
It was a routine single. Josh Hayter was not good.
He did not have it.

Speaker 1 I have a stat for you to tell you how stupid baseball is. Real quick, I have a stat for you.
Okay. It's called Ball Don't Lie.
Yeah. And the umpire was awful all night, and so so Ball Don't Lie.

Speaker 1 Well, okay, in defense of the Brewers, which I do not want to do, and I will, I'm not going to stick it to the Brewers.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say congratulations on getting to play one extra game than the Cubs. That was great of you guys.

Speaker 1 I do think that the ball might have hit that guy's bat first. It was simultaneous.

Speaker 1 So that's one that people will argue and have fun arguing it because nothing can change, but that's the beauty of sports. But baseball is the dumbest sport in the world.

Speaker 1 Josh Hayter faced 66 left-handed hitters this year. He gave up a single to one of them.
He hadn't allowed two singles in the same appearance since May 27th.

Speaker 1 And then that happened. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 And everyone enjoyed it. And before the game, I was very,

Speaker 1 very

Speaker 1 different fans. You know how you say Cleveland Indians and Cleveland Browns fans are different? Packers' owners are different from Milwashi Brewers fans.
Kato Kalen is a Brewers fan.

Speaker 1 I doubt that he owns a share of the pack. But what I'm getting at here.
I'm actually going to go to his Twitter account. Oh, he went off King tonight big time.

Speaker 1 Before the game, I was very, very nervous because the Nationals manager accidentally shaved his playoff beard before the playoffs even started,

Speaker 1 which was a big, big no-no. The playoffs haven't started.
That was the postseason. The postseason, well, it's the same thing.
The postseason is what we're going into next.

Speaker 1 The playoffs are when you get your ass kicked by the Dodgers. Okay.
What's the difference between post-Malone and playoff Malone? I don't know. Probably the beard.

Speaker 1 When he has a scraggly beard, that's when it's the playoffs. But yeah, he accidentally trimmed his,

Speaker 1 he went no guard on it. And it's happened to all of us before.
We've been giving ourselves a little shave, a haircut.

Speaker 1 You accidentally have the guard slip off, the clipper flies out, and boom, you take off a stretch of landing strips. So we're able.
I think I'm beginning to think Team of Destiny.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Nats? Yeah. Okay.
Prove me wrong.

Speaker 1 I think the Dodgers will. Okay, that's actually a compelling point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's brutal to have to go all the way to the West Coast after, you know, chugging a bunch of champagne in the locker room right now. But as they always say, happy to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to savor this one. I'm absolutely going to savor it.

Speaker 1 Max Scherzer, by the way, speaking of the Dodgers, Max Scherzer had a little of his own Mini Kershaw going with not looking good the first couple innings. Then he settled down.
He settled down.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 If you're a Brewers fan, I don't think you can get lower than that because that is truly a game that was snatched from the jaws of victory, or whatever the fucking saying is.

Speaker 1 They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Jaws of victory, correct.

Speaker 1 That game was over.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you should have pulled Hater there. Maybe.
I mean, he was wild, but fuck.

Speaker 1 That's a brutal, brutal law. I mean, that is, like we said, that is a t-ball level error that you make.

Speaker 1 Yeah, admittedly, I haven't watched a lot of haters pitching, but when he came in, he just looked like a guy that can't find a strike zone. Looks like a wild dude.

Speaker 1 Kato Kalen said Hater has lost five games he's pitched at the Brewers and blew the game.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. And blew the game in Colorado where he wouldn't have to play wild card.
The worst. Counsel, you make more gaffes than a gaffer on film set.
That's good. Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1 Double entendre. Don't manage.
Don't manage next year. Everyone knew Hater would choke except you.
Even Hater knew he'd choke. Poop emoji.
Cato, let's not say things we can't take back.

Speaker 1 Former guest of the show, by the way. Yep.
Damn. Oh, wait.
Here's another one. Counsel.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the all caps is what I'm young. Counsel, you blew it.
Pomerance. Only three 19 pitches.
I think he meant throw. Let him throw more.
Haters face before.

Speaker 1 He came in and said defeat and diarrhea. Goodbye, Twitter.
You suck Milwaukee Brewers. Oh, no, Cato.
He came in and said defeat and diarrhea. And weird caps.
He went back and forth there.

Speaker 1 Switching back and forth. Cato, I thought you would be a guy that would stand up for your friends.
You've changed, man.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm not going to be

Speaker 1 like, you know, a sour loser because the Cubs didn't do anything in the Central this year and they fumbled down the stretch.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to stick it to Brewers fans, but I will point out the fact that Christian Yelich would not have made that error in Rightfield.

Speaker 2 Definitely not.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. So I'm just going to point that out.
Just going to point that out. And we overcame a lot of adversity in the game, too.

Speaker 1 This was tweeted out, I think, in the fourth inning when we were trailing. This is from Brad Todd.
The guy's fucking name is Brad Todd. That's actually awesome.
That's Chad. That is so Chad.

Speaker 1 That's very Chad.

Speaker 1 Admittedly, that's Chad. Yeah, that's Chad fucking a Verge.
And he says, two dudes on my row,

Speaker 1 I'm going to switch out dudes to Verges. Two Verges on my row came back with cans of hard seltzer at a playoff game, mind you.
Washington's baseball fan base deserves all the ridicule it gets.

Speaker 1 Brad Todd. Yeah, Brad Todd.

Speaker 1 Classic Brad Todd move right there to tweet that out. Brad Todd.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so playoff baseball's here. It takes forever, but I mean, it was an exciting game.
What are you going to say? It was...

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the people who bet the over because you thought for a second you had a chance. And I've never seen someone happier to get tagged out in a rundown.
Oh, he's pumped. He was so pumped.

Speaker 1 He was so pumped. The thing about betting on baseball, that's how they get you, is the one and a half run line.
And it's like, oh, that's basically just a win. No, it's actually, it's two runs.
Well,

Speaker 1 and the Nationals really had no business winning the game, so winning by one and a half would just get greedy.

Speaker 1 Also, Hank, you started out Rocky tonight, laughing in my face at a home run that didn't go over, that I thought was going over. You were just excited to see me in misery, which I get.

Speaker 1 I mean, I enjoy having Big Cat on this show after a devastating playoff loss. I think more than anyone.

Speaker 1 Well, more than most. And Hank was kind of rubbing it in my face a little bit.

Speaker 1 But then Hank turned it around by texting Marlin's man for me and telling him to turn his visor at the Nationals dugout, and everything turned around after that.

Speaker 1 In Hank's defense, I think it's going to take, it takes at least one game adjustment to get used to Natitude PFT. Natitude PFT.

Speaker 1 Like when we came out of wherever we were in and it was already 2-0 and you looked like you wanted to cry, I was like, wait.

Speaker 2 I came around the corner and we do live streaming all the time here. And I came around the corner and you're wearing

Speaker 2 your full kit and there was a pop fly that you thought was a home run and you basically dropped to your knees and had your hand on your head and were like, no!

Speaker 5 And I was laughing because I thought you were like over-exaggerating or like doing something.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 you gave me the big cat desk tank.

Speaker 2 You turned around and gave me the like, don't you ever fucking smile again. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 5 And I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 It's going to take. We are now transitioned to Natitude PFT season.
Like, it took a game. We weren't ready for it.
We didn't know you were going to show up in a full jersey. Here's a fact.

Speaker 1 Nobody in the world has been a Nats fan for as long as I have. I'm tied.
Tied. Tied with everyone who's probably two million people.

Speaker 1 Well, no, actually, that's not true because aren't there original Washington Senators fans? That's not the Nats. They moved to Texas.
Yeah, no, they do a research. So are they Expose fans then?

Speaker 1 Expose fans.

Speaker 1 There's someone in Montreal who's wearing a Scherzer jersey right now who's over the moon. Alley le natitude.
Yeah, he's just so, so happy. Natitude sounds like a beautiful French word.
He's so happy.

Speaker 1 He's not going to kiss it and not bathe and eat cheese. All right, and then tomorrow night we get the Rays versus the A's.
Woo. All right.
The toilet bowl of MLB. Woo! And now I'm...
No, I actually...

Speaker 1 Who's MLB? I was about to say there's going to be Rays fans mad, but there's... I mean, maybe third leg Greg.
Like,

Speaker 1 that's it.

Speaker 1 I don't even know. Dickie V? Yeah, he'll be upset.
He'll do a periscope. That will be great.
One-eyed dick. The tough part is anytime Tampa Bay loses anything, a lot of people die of stress.

Speaker 1 it actually does happen it's an epidemic i'll be rooting for the a's because i want our friend dallas braden to be in the mix uh and go and have to play the astros alex brigman by the way on the show on friday uh all right let's get to the rest of the show we have to at least address

Speaker 1 big ben on monday night football in a full cast and then at halftime when Mason Rudolph looked pretty good, threw on the sling.

Speaker 1 He got more injured as the game went along while he was talking into his not plugged in walkie-talkie.

Speaker 1 Well, it was either plugged into nobody or it was just plugged into his Madden Xbox lobby so he could hear his friends talking.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it was, but yeah, he injured himself by being more injured. And then he comes out with a sling.
When, first of all,

Speaker 1 where does Ben just get that sling at halftime? Does he try to go into the training room? They're like, hey, Ben, you're not playing?

Speaker 1 Or is his locker like a bat cave of medical devices that he opens up, takes a deep breath, and he's like, all right, Master Ben?

Speaker 1 I think he probably asked the the doctor, he's like, Hey, Doc, my arm is hurting. He's like, Ben, it's in a cast.
And he's like, Yeah, but my arm's hurting.

Speaker 1 He's like, All right, take these two Tylenol and put on this sling. I mean, a sling actually is pretty comfortable.
It's a hammock for your arm. Why he didn't have it on to begin with?

Speaker 1 The cast was so fucking funny. Mason Rudolph, not bad.
I can tell, you can tell the rising tide of Steeler fans being like, Why not? Because, you know, the division leader right now is two and two.

Speaker 1 And then the Bengals, whew.

Speaker 1 Is that it for Andy Dalton? Are we done? Well, I looked at who they were. Are we done here? You know who their backup is?

Speaker 1 No. Eight-year bump.

Speaker 2 Ryan Finley. Oh, eight-year bump.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Ryan Finley. I looked up his stats.
I just Googled him. Yeah.
He popped up on the main Google search. He's 6'3 and 185 pounds.

Speaker 1 I want to see that guy in a game. Terrell Suggs could floss with him.
That's how narrow he is. Andy Dalton, like, I feel bad because he's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 We've had him on the show, but I think we're done here. I think it's time to just be done because

Speaker 1 and the Bengals are terrible.

Speaker 1 They did him no no like service by basically letting him get smoked every single play and the play calling it felt like every time the Bengals had like four passes in a row they're like let's just run it three times and just see if this will work.

Speaker 1 Nope. Not very Sean McVay of Zach Taylor.
Yeah, by the way, Zach Taylor, Vic Fangio,

Speaker 1 Vic Fangio and four. Good looking Cliff Kingsbury and Brian Flores all have zero wins.
Interesting. Four new coaches all have zero wins.
I don't think that's ever happened.

Speaker 1 They got to appreciate that about the other ones, though. That's like they're all separate.
Right, like, fucked up. They're on a group text.
They're like, yo, way to do a solid for us, Zach.

Speaker 1 Like, Brian Flores texted him last night. He's like, yo, thanks, man, because the heat's getting hotter for all of us.
But they have like a pact.

Speaker 1 One of those, like, when all the teenagers get pregnant at the same time. Wasn't there a movie about that? Mine was like the opposite.

Speaker 1 It was just lose your virginity. Yeah, pregnancy pact.
We'll worry about the sperm hitting the egg later. Yeah, they all have a pact to just never win a football game.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I want to talk real quick about just the entire aesthetic of Big Ben on the sidelines and how he looked, how he appeared, because he looked healthier on the sidelines than he looks during games. Yes.

Speaker 1 Like he was moving around. I think he gets healthier the more he gets injured, if that makes sense, because he had some spunk in his step.
He was very demonstrative.

Speaker 1 He was like jogging back and forth.

Speaker 1 I like Big Ben injured on the sidelines better than I like him in a game. Yes, I agree.
I agree. Big Ben.
He looked like he was having more fun doing that.

Speaker 1 It was a live version of playing Madden for him. Yeah, we need to have, like, when Big Ben retires, just make him stand on the sideline in a big cast.

Speaker 1 In a cast that just gets bigger as the weeks go on. Can you imagine how bad the inside of his cast smells? Like Big Ben's arm.
Yes. That smells like Tiger Woods golf clubs.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised he didn't have people just start signing it. On the side.
Yeah, everyone. Everyone huddle around.
Mason Rudolph's getting a little too much pub here.

Speaker 1 Just bottle up his arm sweat and use it to keep deer away from people's crops. Just like drop it on the fence post.
I'll tell you what, if the Steelers beat the Ravens this weekend, watch out.

Speaker 1 Then the terrible towers are really breaking out, and everyone's saying the Stellar are going to go to the playoffs. Two words for you.
AFC North football this weekend. Yep.
Yep. Back.
It's back.

Speaker 1 Thank God that the Steelers won so that we can have a semi-relevant game between the two. It would have sucked if he were on four.

Speaker 1 I hope when Ben goes into the Hall of Fame, he's got a giant neck brace on the bust.

Speaker 1 Just put, how big would a neck brace have to be to fit around Ben's neck? It would have to be like a twin-size mattress.

Speaker 1 I hope they do old-school Big Ben long hair on the bust. Ooh, and just the flow.
And the fedora. Yeah, the big booger Ben, is what I called it when he looked like he slicked back his hair.

Speaker 1 Oh, so good.

Speaker 1 So that was Monday Night Football. Let's do some hot seat, cool throne, and then get to Triple H.
Hank, hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 2 My hot seat is Dame Lillard.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 So he recently went, I feel like we've talked about this every like we've talked about this show a lot recently, but he went on the Joe Budden podcast and they were asking him about

Speaker 1 rappers. Except the guy with oh, not the vice president.

Speaker 2 No, they said he basically because he was talking about Shaq and he said the only reason he was popular was because he was Shaq and a famous athlete, not because he was a good rapper.

Speaker 2 Which Shaq took great offense to.

Speaker 1 Because it's true.

Speaker 2 Because it's true, but obviously, you know, he took offense to it, which led to him dropping a diss track. He had a couple bars, such as

Speaker 2 MVP candidate, you are not one. Lyrically and three-time finals, MVP.

Speaker 1 MVP candidate, you are not one. That role is pretty good.
It's Drake-like. Sounds pretty devastating, though.
Damn, he burned him.

Speaker 1 So Dame just sat there and took it like Drake, or did he come back on him? He came back on him. Wait, wait, did he clap back?

Speaker 2 He clapped back with a diss track of his own.

Speaker 2 The problem, it was okay, but the problem was that Shaq's diss track went harder, and Shaq has the power of inside the NBA, Kenny Chuck, to just all season long go at Dame Lillard.

Speaker 2 And Dame Lillard's in Portland, not a big market.

Speaker 2 I feel like this is one of those things where Dane Lillard is going to regret it because he's just going to be, yeah, like Shaq's going to be on his shit all year long.

Speaker 1 Although that can turn on Shaq, because when Kenny and Charles go at Shaq, it's the funniest thing ever. He becomes the big puddle.

Speaker 1 And he just sits there and just like, ooh, why are you being so mean to me? Is there a way to do it without doing like a diss track? Because I think incorporating

Speaker 1 a full song kind of opens you up to a lot of criticism. Maybe the beat's not as good as it could be.
Maybe your rapping voice isn't as great as your lyrics are. Like, what about disc poetry?

Speaker 1 Slam poetry. Just have you go on C.J.
McCollum's podcast, on his fucking podcast, and do like snap poetry.

Speaker 2 Take your time to respond. There is no hurry.
You'll never be Westbrook.

Speaker 1 Never be Steph Curry. Ooh.

Speaker 2 Where do you want American Express or Visa talking like you're Braun? You ain't even Trevor Ariza.

Speaker 1 Okay, so setting that up. That's just factually incorrect.
American Express and Visa was,

Speaker 1 he's trying too hard to rhyme. He wrote Ariza, and then he was like, I need something that rhymes with Arisa.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. What's your cool throne? I took a pill in a visa.

Speaker 2 My cool throne is Gucci Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He signed an endorsement deal with Gucci.

Speaker 1 That seems like it should have happened a while ago. I know.
Is that not the reason for his name to begin with? He didn't invent Gucci?

Speaker 2 Well, no, he just, that was, he would talk about it a lot. But finally, after all these years, many people have been clamoring for it.

Speaker 1 That's a pity deal, though. It is.
Gucci's like, yo, we got so many years of free publicity. That's like giving Joe Theisman a Heisman Award right now.
Yeah, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 Like, it's already happened. We've already gotten all the free publicity out of this,

Speaker 1 out of the Gucci Man brain. Because Theisman changed his name.
It was Thiesman. And then he wanted to win.

Speaker 1 Hank gave me a look like, what?

Speaker 1 What? He wanted to win the Heisman Trophy when he was in college, so he changed the pronunciation of his name to Theisman from Theisman, and he still didn't win.

Speaker 1 Are you being

Speaker 1 dead serious,

Speaker 1 Pretty much the exact same thing that Gucci Man is going through right now.

Speaker 2 Well, except it worked out for Gucci Man. Yeah, he did

Speaker 1 the highest picture. Has he ever broken his leg?

Speaker 2 No, but he's killed someone.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh.
All right, so about even Stevenson. It was self-defense, though.
He got off. Oh, all right.
Good for you. Learn something new every day.
All right, PFT, what do you got?

Speaker 1 My hot seat is romance. Yeah.
Because a Utah woman was attacked by a bison just months after. Bison.
It's a bison. Bison is a fighter.
Is his team, his football team, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So she was attacked by a bison on a date, and it turns out it was just months after her date went to that park, and he had gotten attacked by a bison.

Speaker 1 So he went, he decided to go back to the park this time with a date, and then she got attacked. Got it.

Speaker 2 So this is his first date got killed?

Speaker 1 No, he was attacked personally the first time. Yep.
And then he decided he would take a date there a couple months later, and then she got attacked. I can actually see the reasoning.

Speaker 1 Like, lightning doesn't strike twice, same place twice. A bison doesn't attack the same guy twice, maybe?

Speaker 1 i don't know he probably brought her along as protection against the bison what was he wearing oh

Speaker 1 don't do that don't do that

Speaker 1 he was dressed as a as a blade of grass yeah that's which was tough but yeah uh boy hey i did i did note that in the story they kept referring to the guy as her date so she kept calling him her date not her boyfriend which very clearly means that they're no longer an item they would have been they would have been if she hadn't gotten gored first date getting bison attacked is probably not great for the for the rest of the relationship.

Speaker 1 It's also just God saying maybe this relationship isn't meant to be if nature is attacking you. Or don't live in North Dakota.
But there's bison everywhere. Yeah, by the way,

Speaker 1 huge comeback for bison because I thought they were extinct. Yeah, I did too.

Speaker 1 They're back. Big come up for Bison.
My other hot seat is brands.

Speaker 1 Because California just allowed college athletes to make money off their likenesses by allowing student athletes to get endorsements.

Speaker 1 And some media watchdogs out there are very concerned about how this is going to affect brands.

Speaker 1 Here's a good uh test to see if it's good or bad for student athletes to start making money off their likeness.

Speaker 1 If it's good, that means most people agree with it, or sorry, if it's if it's a good, if it's a bad thing, that means everyone's like, I don't know. If it's a good thing, that means Ravel,

Speaker 1 Gottlieb, and Dan Dokich are all opposed. That's the, yeah, the three horsemen of the brand pockets.
Ravel,

Speaker 1 I don't know who's paying Ravel where he is so opposed to this when the biggest argument against letting kids make money off their likeness is that it will make it unfair and the same six to eight college football teams win the national title, which is no different than it is right now.

Speaker 1 It happens the exact same way right now.

Speaker 1 And then some people are saying that LeBron James endorsed it and that he got out in front of it because his son is about to be a college athlete, so he wants his son to make money. That's not it.

Speaker 1 That's not what's happening. He wants the players to get paid so they're more likely to stay in college, the elite players, so they don't come to the NBA and compete against him.

Speaker 1 That's what's really happening.

Speaker 2 If you're in high school right now and you're a five-star recruit, like you should be staying back as much as you can. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Keep staying back.
Don't go to school. Keep failing.

Speaker 2 Like whoever that person is in the class of whatever the last year is, like 2022, like that's terrible.

Speaker 1 I really don't understand how anyone could argue against this. I don't, I don't, that makes no sense.

Speaker 1 So, here's the argument: you can't allow me to play devil's advocate, good cat.

Speaker 1 Uh, if we allow companies to pay athletes, then you'll get Alabama boosters that pay a shitload of money to players to come to their school that don't actually do real jobs in this crazy situation that I just made up in my head.

Speaker 1 Would Georgia, too? Georgia would probably do it. Clemson?

Speaker 1 USC might buy houses for student athletes.

Speaker 1 It's great, too, because under these like weird arguments that the people opposed to this make, it's like these fictitious car dealers in Alabama are going to give millions and millions and millions of dollars every single year to five-star recruits.

Speaker 1 Like I think we can let like free market play that out and it'll just be a bad investment in just a business giving 18 year olds millions of dollars year after year.

Speaker 1 And so Florida is trying to respond to it and Florida's putting their own bill out there to try to compete just for recruits. It's just for recruiting purposes.

Speaker 1 Because right now, what we're looking at is actually a nightmare. If it's California, that's the only state that can do it.

Speaker 1 Because they'll re-release NCAA football, but it'll be all shitty Pac-12 teams that we'll have to play with. Yeah, that sucks.
Pac-12 will finally be back.

Speaker 1 Larry Scott will figure out a way to fuck this up. He'll skim some off the top.

Speaker 1 Did you see Jay Billis took a little shot at Mark Titus? He was like, it doesn't matter if you're LeBron James or Mark Titus or somewhere in between.

Speaker 1 Jay, last I checked, our friend Mark Titus is a better college basketball player than LeBron James. He's played more minutes.
He's got more rebounds.

Speaker 1 Fouls. He's not been drafted in the first round more often

Speaker 1 between years of college. Went to a final four.
Went to a final four.

Speaker 1 Won a big ten? The list goes on for Mark Titus. Yes.

Speaker 1 As far as I'm concerned, he's college basketball royalty. Mark Titus is a better college basketball player than LeBron James.

Speaker 1 You and I are the same exact level college basketball player as LeBron James. That's a fact.
Facts.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is numerology. Ooh.
Because Gardner Minshew's completion rate right now is 69.420. Retire.
So

Speaker 1 just quit.

Speaker 1 Either that or.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a good chance Rob Grinkowski just decides to play for the Jags instead when he sees this. But we're not forcing 69 jokes on people.
We're not doing that. But it does make sense because

Speaker 1 permission to make a Rick Riley joke. Yeah.
He's beaten the Broncos and he's beaten the Titans, so he's pretty good at licking teams that suck. Ooh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 2.25. Okay, so it's above the tube grade.
Thank you. It's nice.
I actually think Gardener Minshew was just invented by the internet to give us content. It's unbelievable.
It really is.

Speaker 1 Okay, my hot seat is

Speaker 1 Hank and PFT's Patriots.

Speaker 1 Because, yeah, yeah, Bill Belichick

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick said before the game against the Redskins this weekend, all three QBs look pretty good, talking about the Redskins, and said it's a very well-designed offense, very well-balanced.

Speaker 1 The Redskins' offense is 28th. Well, it's tough.
And all three QBs stick. Well, it's tough to game plan against three different quarterbacks that suck for different reasons.

Speaker 1 Belichick was also quoted last week as saying he does not care about numbers or stats. He just says what he looks at in the film.
Stats are for losers.

Speaker 1 I just love the ongoing Bill Belichick trying to find a way to complement terrible teams to get his team motivated. It is good.
It is so good. I mean, because they can do things.

Speaker 1 You've got Case Keenum, who sucks because he sucks. You've got Coat McCoy, who sucks because he's coming off of a leg injury that was mismanaged.

Speaker 1 And then you've got Dwayne Haskins, who sucks because he shouldn't be playing right now. Correct.
So, which one of those? Pick your poison, Bill Belichick. A lot of suck.
All right, our cool throne.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is our football heroes. Because we had multiple stories today.

Speaker 1 We had a piece about Coach O in the athletic

Speaker 1 where they told about him shotgunning Red Bulls, how before every single game, he punches himself, quote,

Speaker 1 he gets your hands up, be ready to fight, be ready to take a lick in the face, and every single Saturday in his pregame speech, he punches himself in the face hard as shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we've seen it. We've seen him set your jaw, right? Set your jaw.
I told him, set your jaw. Set your jaw.
It's one of those existential questions. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 is Coach O strong enough to break his own iron jaw? No.

Speaker 1 Well, then you're saying he's weak. No, his jaw is so strong.
Yeah, but then you're saying that his arms are weak. No, his jaw is too strong.
His jaw would beat his arms in an arm wrestling.

Speaker 1 They're actually tied. Yeah, I think he knocked out a tooth.
I think that was also a story. He knocked out his own tooth.

Speaker 1 And then the other football legend that we have is the story of Andy Reid, who once ate a 40-ounce steak in 19 minutes. That's pretty impressive.
That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 Where was he timed? Was this at one of those restaurants?

Speaker 1 It was Prime Quarter, and they both ordered a giant giant 40-ounce steak,

Speaker 1 and the waitress said, if you eat this thing in under an hour, you get your picture on the wall in a chef's hat and all that. Say no more.
And Andy ate it in 19 minutes.

Speaker 1 He had 41 minutes to spare. Say less, ma'am.
I think that probably... A 40-ounce steak is a unit of time measurement for Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's about how much time we got left. Three timeouts.
We got two porterhouses left.

Speaker 1 That's probably why he's so bad at managing the clock. He just thinks of everything in terms of how much time would it take me to eat this thing of meat.
Yeah, let's run our skirt steak offense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got 40 seconds left.

Speaker 1 Just steer that for me. Fucking perfect.

Speaker 1 God damn it. So our football heroes are intact.
You love to see stories like that. All right, let's get to our interview with Triple H.
It was an awesome interview. We went up to WWE headquarters.

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Speaker 1 Hey, what's going on there, pal? We saw you at the hockey game on. Do I know you guys? I'm Ryan Whitney.
I got a drink named after me. Not a big deal.
Pink Whitney?

Speaker 1 That's what I thought. See you, fellas.
I invented the thing, you pigeon. Pink Whitney for legendary moments.
Okay, here he is. Triple H.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, hero of mine. It is Triple H, 14-time world champion.

Speaker 1 When we're airing this on October 2nd, you're going to be watching them that night, USA Network, NXT.

Speaker 1 They're going to the USA Network, so you can watch them every single Wednesday night. Is that right? Yeah, every Wednesday night, two hours live.

Speaker 1 You know, we've been in Wednesdays since the beginning.

Speaker 1 Kind of been our time slot for NXT on the WWE network. So this is the same time slot, just shifting over and going to two hours live.
Okay, nice.

Speaker 1 But obviously, it increases the viewability dramatically because it goes from the network, which is a very limited

Speaker 1 subscriber base, to USA. USA.
Get ready. 90 million people or whatever.
So I wanted to actually start it with the interview with your nicknames through the years. And I want you to rank them.

Speaker 1 Can you rank them for us? So we've got Triple H, we have the game, we have Terror Rising, which is

Speaker 1 by far the worst.

Speaker 1 Reginald.

Speaker 1 It depends on how you look at Terror Rising when it's either the best or the worst.

Speaker 1 You spell Rising in a cool, like, C.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, so there's a story to that as well.
Okay, so tell it. Yes.
Well, Kowalski,

Speaker 1 so when I started training, very shortly after I started training, Kowalski was going to have me do the first show.

Speaker 1 It was actually something that didn't happen, was a tour he was going to take everybody on to South America that never materialized. He needed

Speaker 1 names and stuff for the cards.

Speaker 1 And I had just started, like, I hadn't even had a live match yet. And so he said, I'm going to put your name on there.
What do you want your name to be? And I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I hadn't really thought about it yet. You know, trying to think of something.
And

Speaker 1 he said, I'm going to call you the Terrorizer.

Speaker 1 and i was like the terrorizer like that's terrible yeah and uh you know to me just sounded like the bruiser or the crusher like so 70s wrestler and uh i was like can't i just have a name like a first name and a last name and he got like in typical kowalski fashion got very upset and was like you want the first name and the last name great then he took a magic marker and drew a line in the middle of the terror rising rising yeah and uh

Speaker 1 he said now you have two names terror rising there you go there you go Right. And so then it came back and it was spelled wrong when the stuff came back, which was never used.

Speaker 1 But then when I had my first match, that's what they used. So they just kind of stuck with me.
When I went to WCW,

Speaker 1 they were like,

Speaker 1 was that your wrestling? You know, Terror Rising. That's your wrestling name thing.
I was like, that's the name Kowalski gave me when I was training.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. We're going to repackage you anyways.

Speaker 1 you know, you'll have a whole new gimmick when you get started with us.

Speaker 1 And that weekend, I went home and my dark match aired on Saturday night television for on Turner, you know, on TBS that weekend.

Speaker 1 My dark match, which wasn't supposed to ever see the light of day, was on the air and listed me out as terrorizing. And I called him that Monday and was like,

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why that was on? I thought you were going to repackage me. And it's the best answer I ever got from Bischoff.
He said, ah, don't worry about it. No one watches these shows anyways.
There you go.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Great. Genius.
So what's number one?

Speaker 1 For me,

Speaker 1 the game. I think just because it was so, one, it came,

Speaker 1 fans kind of did it. Like King of Kings, Cerebral Assassin.
King of Kings, I said in a promo, Cerebral Assassin was JR. You know, he just would call me that in commentary all the time.

Speaker 1 The game was just something that came up in a promo I did with JR, where,

Speaker 1 and it was at the time when, you know, we were just kind of moving into the Attitude Era

Speaker 1 or really entrenched in the Attitude Era. I was known as Triple H by then because I didn't want to change from Hunterhurst Helmsley as the Attitude Era came.

Speaker 1 I wanted to keep the value of what that was, but clearly the name wasn't the best. Right.

Speaker 1 And everybody called me Triple H backstage, so that's what we went with.

Speaker 1 The game was just in a promo where as I was kind of cutting a breakout promo with JR backstage, I said, you know, you guys, everybody here is getting put into positions that they don't deserve.

Speaker 1 You talk about success here, you got to be a student of the game.

Speaker 1 I'm beyond that, man. You want to talk about that? Fuck that.
I am the game. Badass love.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 And that, you know, that week when I came out on TV, there were a lot of signs, Triple H is the game, all that stuff. And as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh man, that resonated.

Speaker 1 So then I just started calling myself that all the time and it stuck. And then with the motorhead song.
And then, yeah, so that was, you know, slightly down the line from there,

Speaker 1 there was a period of time where they wanted to get me some new entrance music from the My Time stuff, which was a great song, but they wanted to shift it and

Speaker 1 do something more based on me and the point that I was in in my career. I had a specific sound I wanted and they kept trying to make the music.
To me, it wasn't really working.

Speaker 1 It wasn't rough enough. It wasn't draw enough and didn't feel just guttural.
And

Speaker 1 I remember speaking to Kevin Dunn one day and they played me a bunch of cuts and I'm like, I don't like it. It's just not what I want.
And he said, well, what is it?

Speaker 1 Give me an example of something you want. I said, I want it it to sound like Motorhead, like that just raw, gritty feel and that voice.
And he said, well, why don't we just see if they can do it?

Speaker 1 And I was like, because I didn't know that was an option.

Speaker 1 And they called him, and I had never met Lem at that time. They cut the song.
I loved it. Then I met them and then he and I became really, really close friends for years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lemmy seems like a cool guy. Like to just pick up the phone and be like, yeah, I will do Triple H's intro music for you.
So here's the thing, too, is he wasn't a fan. And he told me this story after.

Speaker 1 He said, no, I didn't know who you were.

Speaker 1 But I can't remember. They were in like Berlin or something

Speaker 1 or Hamburg, I think it was. And Lem went in and tried to do the song a couple of times.
And he hated the cut that they had sent over.

Speaker 1 So there's a version of the song that they had recorded. He hated it.
So he rewrote it and rewrote all the lyrics.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 before he did that, he tried to do a cut of it and he was like, I don't know what you're trying to get out of this guy. Like, I don't know anything about him.
So they sent them pictures in a video.

Speaker 1 He said he watched the video. It was me in some match bleeding and everything.
And he watched the video, saw the pictures, and said, I can do this guy. And went in and cut it in one take.

Speaker 1 And they sent it over to me, and I was like, I love it. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 Perfect.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, then they did.

Speaker 1 Other songs. They did King of Kings for me also.
And then they did Line in the Sand for Evolution. And then he had written a song for me as well called Triple H that they never recorded.

Speaker 1 Then I did a track with them on Hammered, their album called Serial Killer, where they synced our voices together on a spoken track. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 an interesting story of right before

Speaker 1 sort of his passing, the last album they put out, had Sympathy for the Devil on them, had Heroes by Bowie.

Speaker 1 We're the ones who talked him into doing those. I wanted him to do a cover album.
We were going to split it. We were going to take the digital and they were going to take the

Speaker 1 vinyl. And

Speaker 1 we met with Lem in

Speaker 1 LA at Staples Center after show and we talked about it. And

Speaker 1 one of our music guys suggested, maybe Lem, maybe you could even do a rap song or something.

Speaker 1 I mean, his eyes bugged out of his head and he was like, fucking rap?

Speaker 1 I would pay good money, though, to listen to a motorhead song with trying to rap over it. But he didn't want to do Heroes He was all into.

Speaker 1 We made a list of songs and then they did some and we picked some. Sympathy for the Devil was one that I suggested because I could just picture his voice doing it

Speaker 1 or imagine it. And

Speaker 1 he didn't want to do it. Then they recorded it, but he left out a whole verse.

Speaker 1 And when I called him, I was like, Lem, it's awesome, but like you left out a whole verse. He's like, it's too long.
I'm not doing it all. I want to do the whole song.

Speaker 1 The song's too damn long. I said, it's not the song if you don't do the whole thing.
Everybody knows that song. You got to do the whole thing.
He's like all right, whatever.

Speaker 1 So he went back in the studio and they finished recording it, but it's awesome. And they've used it for commercials.
That's incredible. Those are two of my favorite songs that they've done, actually.

Speaker 1 It's like that cover album was intense. It was awesome.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 we were going to do a whole album of it. And then

Speaker 1 towards the end, we have one of the last interviews he did here. I did it with Corey Graves and myself.
Went to

Speaker 1 The Rainbow and did an interview with Lemmy. This is not long before he passed.
Because

Speaker 1 he kind of, when I had seen him the time before that I think he knew like

Speaker 1 it's coming to a close and

Speaker 1 he talked about us doing an interview and he was going to try to do this cover album. So

Speaker 1 he just kind of wanted to get in a room and talk and record it. So that's what we kind of did.
And Corey Graves came to

Speaker 1 kind of like be a moderator and ask questions and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he told me that day that they were going to put it on. They were coming out with a new album and they they were going to put it on there because he just wanted to get the stuff out.

Speaker 1 He was actually mad because I think Heroes didn't make the album. I think they put it out later.

Speaker 1 One of the two songs didn't make the album, and he was

Speaker 1 the day that we were at the Rainbow. He was still really mad at Todd, their manager, because Todd couldn't fit it on the album.
And Todd was trying to say, There's only so much room

Speaker 1 on the vinyl to put, like, I can't make more room on the vinyl. She'll let him cut out

Speaker 1 the soul of the devil.

Speaker 1 But it was really, really cool. And yeah, he was a really close friend of mine.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 One other nickname I want to get to, Jean-Paul Levesque that you had. So you were a French-Canadian aristocrat.
Yeah, actually, he was supposed to be a French aristocrat. So

Speaker 1 there's a transition of the booking team in WCW when I'm there. And it's a mess, you know, everything's all over the place there.
And Flair now is taking the booking.

Speaker 1 So I I get a call one day and they're not really doing that much with me I get a call from him one day and he says we need you to come to CNN and shoot these interviews and I'm like that's a good sign for me to go have to go do interviews that's good and I get there and

Speaker 1 I see them and they're like hey we like your last name Levesque so we're gonna go with that and I'm like it's very common last name like if you're from the northeast or whatever and they're like yes very unique we want you to do that so go in the other room and cut promos on Alex Wright in French and I'm like whoa, like, I don't speak any French whatsoever.

Speaker 1 But your last name. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what they said. But you, but your last name is French.
And I'm like, I know, but I don't like have any association to that any at all.

Speaker 1 And they were like, well, go in the other room and cut promos with a French accent then because that's what you're going to be. You're going to be John Paul Pepe.
And I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I went in the other room. And there's this one interview that lives out there somewhere that is me doing like the worst Inspector Cluzo

Speaker 1 kind of accent, trying to do this french accent on alex right

Speaker 1 and um

Speaker 1 yeah like be a french guy and so then and then i when i left i did the interviews and when i was walking out i said so what is the character like what do you guys want me to do and they were like you figure it out that's your job yeah you're just a french guy be french so yeah so i just went home and was like what would get me the absolute most possible heat i could get And I just went with the aristocrat.

Speaker 1 I wore like a lace jabot and on like a hip waiter boots and and had stuff made and was like it's the most heat i could possibly think of getting and it you know got a huge reaction right

Speaker 1 um and once that got a reaction regal

Speaker 1 uh then got the call and was like we're gonna put you guys together as like this aristocrat tag team and we were supposed to be called the blue bloods and they uh

Speaker 1 they were taking sherry martel was with harlem heat she was going to take they were taking sherry martel from harlem heat and putting her with us and uh sherry and i actually went and and uh

Speaker 1 I went with her. She asked me to go with her.
She came with me to help me find these boots. And I went with her to help get

Speaker 1 some dresses like they were doing, like the big

Speaker 1 Marie Antoinette. Yeah, Marie Antoinette dresses.
And she started to get them. But then my contract was up, and I ended up leaving, so it never came to be.

Speaker 1 Damn, it could have been the aristocrats, the blue bloods.

Speaker 1 Exactly. The craziest part about your career is that at 14, you knew you wanted to be a wrestler, and then you just became one.
Is that right? I mean, you like, I mean, most people went to the moment.

Speaker 1 Like, why be that simple. Well, when I was 14, I wanted to be a wrestler, and I just thought that Stone Cold stunning all my friends would get me there.

Speaker 1 You actually were like, hey, I'm going to lift weights and become a wrestler.

Speaker 1 And I mean, it's crazy, though, to know that. Did you know that? Literally at 14, you're like, this is what I want to do, and I'm going to get there any way I can.

Speaker 1 I pretty much think that was in my head. Yeah.
Like, that's the thing, like, you know, sometimes people will say about me, oh,

Speaker 1 well, he came from a bodybuilding background. I didn't come from a bodybuilding background.
I competed in a couple of shows as a teenager because it helped motivate me to train.

Speaker 1 But the goal was never, oh, I'm going to be a pro bodybuilder or anything else.

Speaker 1 The goal was I went to the gym at 14 to try to get bigger because all the guys I looked at on TV that were pro-wrestlers were big and huge and muscular and strong.

Speaker 1 And to me, that's where you needed to be. So, okay, so

Speaker 1 I got to get there.

Speaker 1 And just systematically went at it. And then as I got bigger and, you know,

Speaker 1 got later, probably like around my 20 years old or something like that, I realized, all right, so now I got to try to find a way to get trained, which was not easy at the time. Right.

Speaker 1 Was able to get Killer Kowalski's information, started training with him. And, you know, that is one of the things that for me,

Speaker 1 like when I went to Kowalski's the first time, there's a lot of guys in there that were 150 pounds and little and you know, they're just in there playing wrestler and stuff.

Speaker 1 And look at me when you said little.

Speaker 1 uh they would wear sunglasses and their hair down and they were like huh i'm a wrestler right and then

Speaker 1 got it um but kowalski saw me walk in the door and was like wow this look at this kid coming in here he's like 260 i think i was like 260 270 at the time and uh he was like yeah so i'm gonna work with you so he would let other guys just get in the ring do whatever they were doing he wouldn't even pay attention when i would come there he would get in the ring with me and spend a lot of time me and um perry saturn also he spent a lot of time with perry is it crazy to look now?

Speaker 1 Because I know you opened the whole facility in Orlando where you're training wrestlers and everything and you're like, I started in, I would assume Killer Kowalski's gym was not state-of-the-art at the time.

Speaker 1 It was probably a like rundown warehouse or something. It was a rundown warehouse, no heat, hardly any heat, no AC.

Speaker 1 And we were learning in a boxing ring. So a boxing ring has no give to it.

Speaker 1 It had a metal pole, an I-beam in the center that held the ring stiff.

Speaker 1 So it had no give but I didn't know the difference I thought that's I was like man this my back hurts every day yeah this is brutal right but that's what it was so I you know that's how I learned to wrestle the first time I didn't wrestle in a real wrestling ring like a

Speaker 1 you know one that we would use which people think is like a trampoline it's not it has some give to it though

Speaker 1 I didn't wrestle in one of those until the first time I went to a show And the first time I went to a show and worked in a ring that was an actual ring, I was like, oh my God, this is like, it's like bouncing on my bed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Comparatively to the concrete that I've been landing on since I've been training.
I didn't know the difference.

Speaker 1 It's crazy, though, to just think about how, you know, like your career spanning from that moment, you know, being going on an I-beam and killer Kowalski's gym in a warehouse, and now you have a whole facility in Orlando.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and, you know, that's what people asked me when we first built it, what would Kowalski said?

Speaker 1 He would say we made a bunch of pussies. Yeah, yeah.
But like, you know, his version of

Speaker 1 if you did something wrong, he had a bag, a little plastic bag with a knot tied in the top of it, and he had phone books in it from whatever it was, Waltham or wherever we were, that the town that the school was in.

Speaker 1 And if you did stuff wrong, he'd call you over and he would hit you in the head with the bag of phone books. Bag of phone books.
Yeah, out of nowhere. Like, wow.

Speaker 1 Until you did it wrong. You could have just told me.
I would have, you know. And most times you never saw it coming.
Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys should try to do something like that in your gym where you just, I don't know, cut the heat off. Well, it's Orlando, so probably cut the AC off.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bring back the phone books. Yeah, make it.
You can make phone books.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a trash bag full of iPhones.

Speaker 1 He would always do this thing, too, where, like, you know, when you first learn and you whack your elbows all the time, your burster stacks will swell up.

Speaker 1 You see these guys with these big, huge, it's like a fluid. Val Kilmer had that in heat.
Yeah, yeah, a huge one, right? So

Speaker 1 when you first start, you get those a lot and they're big. And, you know,

Speaker 1 if you leave them alone, they drain on their, you know, they fade on their own, or you can get them drained or whatever.

Speaker 1 Kowalski would just either take the phone book, he would tell you, put your hand behind your head, hold it like this, and pull your elbow in, and then either whack it with the phone book or just push you.

Speaker 1 Like he would say, stand two feet from that wall and have you stand like this.

Speaker 1 And then he'd get behind you and shove you as hard as you could into the wall so you'd smash your elbow into the brick and pop the

Speaker 1 sword.

Speaker 1 It would pop, not pop out, but like pop internally. Yeah, right.
You know what I mean? Drain the fluid. And feel wonderful right afterwards.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's basically a doctor.

Speaker 1 yeah so pft and i are both uh 34 attitude era guys do you have do you feel any responsibility for having like an entire generation go around and say suck it to each other so

Speaker 1 sean i went right around the hall of fame time uh sean and i were we were all talking about that and uh

Speaker 1 saying how interesting of a time that was and all this stuff

Speaker 1 and uh you know especially for us because you know we it just started organically but when women started showing us their boobs and like the whole thing and arenas, and

Speaker 1 right around that time, this

Speaker 1 video surfaced of these kids talking about being suspended from school for saying suck it. And it was like, oh, God, like I, you know, now with a dad with kids, and I'm like, oh, poor kids.

Speaker 1 But it was pretty awesome. Every middle school in America had some kid that got in trouble for telling the vice principal to suck it.
That's a cultural impact. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you know, and on the flip side of that, it was every

Speaker 1 Monday and Sunday as football was happening. You were seeing guys do the same thing.
And, you know, they'd score a touchdown or they'd sack a quarterback and get up and do the crowd shop.

Speaker 1 And the whole thing. And,

Speaker 1 yeah, it really was. When you think about that time frame, Rock put words in the dictionary.
We put,

Speaker 1 you know, mannerisms and sayings and phrases and almost that attitude, Austin, you know, who didn't want to be the guy stunning their boss and flipping him off and drinking beer over his unconscious body?

Speaker 1 Yeah. so so do you still every now and then like maybe after like a good gym session like just quick suck it in the beer every now and then yeah

Speaker 1 trust me there's suck it there are a lot of people on a daily basis yeah that i would like to do it oh yeah yeah yeah so uh we one time by it was a bad mistake that we made we tried to come up with a greeting for our podcast listeners to say hi to us and we were talking to lenny dykstra at the time and lenny told us to suck his dick and we said okay our our podcast greeting is tell us, suck our dicks when you see us.

Speaker 1 So we have now a bunch of people that come up to us and say, hey, what's up, PFT? Suck my dick. Like in a friendly voice.

Speaker 1 I would imagine that you have people that come up to you and give you the DX. And say something.
You're like, wait, what the hell? Like, wait, don't DX me.

Speaker 1 All the time where people will ask to do the crotch chop or do whatever it is. And

Speaker 1 yeah, sometimes it's a funny thing, too, because now, like, unfortunately, as we get older, like a lot of the people that are still doing that stuff stuff or that were in that era are now like you guys, like they're in their late 30s or something, and they've got kids.

Speaker 1 So their kids there. And now all of a sudden the dad forgets like he's with his kid and he's like, hey, can we do the suck it? And let's do the thing.
And he's really.

Speaker 1 I did that to you when we first met. I'm like, hey, can we just suck it? And I saw you tweeted it out the other day.
Yeah, yeah. And you got to suck it, dude.
But like super inappropriate.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, dude, your kids.

Speaker 1 I know I did it to you, but like your kids. Yeah, Big Cat's a father now.
I am, yeah. And I will teach my child to suck it.

Speaker 1 Boom. I'm sure I'll have to explain this to my kids.
Yeah, of course. What is the oral history of the socket? Who came up with it?

Speaker 1 So it's a funny thing, like the DX stuff, a lot of it was rooted in, there was a group backstage called The Click, right? And so

Speaker 1 it was just a group of guys that were together, myself, Sean Waltman, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and

Speaker 1 HBK.

Speaker 1 We all hung out together backstage. It was really about our passion for the business.
We all rode down the roads together, inseparable, traveled in the same cars.

Speaker 1 And all we did was talk about the business. And like even Scott Hall, who would get in the car every night and go, guys, can we just not talk about the business for one car ride?

Speaker 1 Let's just not talk about the business. But did you notice tonight's show that this, and then we were talking about the business the whole drive? Right.
So it was based on that.

Speaker 1 We used to all that this thing came from Scott saw the Turkish,

Speaker 1 the Turkish,

Speaker 1 whatever, mafia thing. Yeah, there you go, Too Sweet, whatever they call it now, which I hate.
It was never too sweet. I don't know how that became a thing.
But anyway,

Speaker 1 yeah, that became our thing. So we would all flash it on TV.
Like it was our little insider thing of like you were all together, right, and do all the stuff. And the second thing came from

Speaker 1 when fans would be giving you crap, especially if you were a bad guy.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the attitude area yet. And we couldn't say negative things.
You couldn't flip people up. You couldn't get on them too much.

Speaker 1 And you'd look at guys and go, what you need to do is focus not so much here or down and here, but like right about there.

Speaker 1 And that became this kind of our thing. And then it just morphed

Speaker 1 when they left and we started doing the stuff

Speaker 1 with DX. We kind of, Sean and I kind of morphed it into being a lot more aggressive.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, it went from being aggressive to being cool. And that's when, you know, Sean got injured and left and

Speaker 1 kid came back and all that. And it sort of just morphed into its own thing.
A lot of that stuff just happened organically. It wasn't like we were going, you know, we need is a catchphrase.
Right.

Speaker 1 It was, I mean, honestly, even with Sean and I first doing DX, half the stuff we did was based on us just making each other laugh and not giving a crap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just going to go out there and do whatever comes to my mind to get me the most heat. And I don't give a crap where it goes.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we were getting, you know, every week when we were coming back, Vince was going, guys, you're going to get us kicked off the air. I swear to God, I'm going to fire you.

Speaker 1 Do it again next week. I'm going to fire the both of you.
But then ratings started to go. So all of a sudden, he was going, like, hey, yeah, do that thing.
Yeah, right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So when it works, it's good. And it was getting a reaction.
So, what was your relationship? I mean, obviously, Vince is now your father-in-law, co-worker, all these things.

Speaker 1 What was your relationship with Vince like back then and like the evolution of it? And did you ever whisper in his ear, I could kick your ass?

Speaker 1 I don't have to whisper. He knows.

Speaker 1 He knows.

Speaker 1 Even when Vince was really jacked, he knows. Okay.
All right. He went from tenseless.
If I can get heat in this promo, I just got it. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 No, so

Speaker 1 my relation, I was always fascinated with the behind the scenes of the business, not just the...

Speaker 1 Not just the in-ring stuff. Like, I like that, but like the

Speaker 1 planning of it. Like, I was fascinated with the, so it's almost almost like, you know, being an actor, but writing the movies is cool too.

Speaker 1 And how do you create the dialogue and the inner workings and how all this stuff fit together? Not just for myself either, but for like for everybody.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 as

Speaker 1 DX evolved with Sean and I got to spend more time around Vince because of the people that I was around, he would start to ask me my opinion a lot on things.

Speaker 1 I would notice that he would say, well, what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 There was one time where we all went to go to a meeting together and I I was leaving because I was like the kind of the new guy. Right.

Speaker 1 And I was going to walk out, and he was like, No, no, you're already in this. You come in here and sit down too.
You got good ideas.

Speaker 1 And so he just started to ask, you know, my opinion a lot, and we started to talk a lot.

Speaker 1 About the time that we were kind of getting into the

Speaker 1 upward swing of the attitude era, one of the writers of the show, Vince Russo, and the guy that was writing along with him, left.

Speaker 1 I'd worked with them a lot and I knew the dynamic. And contrary to probably a belief, he had a lot of ideas.
They were all filtered through Vince and other people that made them great, right?

Speaker 1 Because they were just ideas and thoughts and all these things. So when he left, I went to Vince because it was like in the middle of nowhere.
He went to go to WCW in the middle of the war.

Speaker 1 Good choice, by the way.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I went to Vince and I said, hey, I know those guys left.

Speaker 1 I know now you're kind of doing this by yourself so i'm going home uh yeah i'll be home like i think i had four days off i said i'm be home for four days i don't have that much going on so if you need to bounce ideas off of somebody or something i don't know that that's worth anything to you but i'm just throwing it out if you need it i know trying to do all this stuff by yourself can't be easy he was like i really appreciate that and he left uh went home like two days later i was sitting at home my phone rang and he was like hey vince you uh you got a couple of minutes, bounce some things off you?

Speaker 1 And I was like, Hell yeah, sure,

Speaker 1 you know, and that kind of started it. And then he came to me at TV and was like, would you start coming to production meetings? You know, and I was like,

Speaker 1 I think that's cool. And he's like, I don't care.
Just come to the production meetings.

Speaker 1 And, you know, one of those things where, like, as a talent, you have to be in the building at, like, say, one o'clock, production meetings at, like, nine or ten.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 but look, he's offered that to me. So, like, I'm leaving the town the night before.
I'm driving, whether anybody wants to or not. I'm getting there, getting up, getting ready early, and going to the

Speaker 1 meetings. And, you know, for a lot of people, that was heat.
Why is he in the meetings and all the stuff? But for me, it was more like, hey, ask him.

Speaker 1 He'll probably let you come too, but I don't think you're going to get up at eight and come to this nine o'clock production meeting. So feel free.

Speaker 1 So I started doing that and kind of get in the production meetings. And he and I then had this kind of close bond relationship

Speaker 1 based on creative. And that was, I didn't even, I had never even met Steph at that point in time.
I think she was in college. Sounds terrible.
But

Speaker 1 I think she was in college. I'd never even met her.
It wasn't until

Speaker 1 right around the time that we did the

Speaker 1 marriage angle.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know her then.

Speaker 1 Like we just kind of did this wedding angle was a pitch to get out of a storyline that Vince Russo had kind of dropped when he left and no one knew where it was supposed to go.

Speaker 1 But then that's how we kind of met and started working together but at that point in time i had a totally different working

Speaker 1 you know relationship with vince and and sort of a kind of a a growing uh creative collaboration between the two of us that's carried over for you know all the all the way through you know does shane ever get jealous like he's a true son yeah king of kings no i you know i think uh

Speaker 1 Shane obviously has a had a had a big role in the company at that time. And then, you know, things worked out the way he did, and he did his own stuff.
And Shane and I get along great.

Speaker 1 Contrary to what you read sometimes, we get along great.

Speaker 1 Keep my head down and do my thing. Well, I always find it funny because we hear all the behind-the-scenes stuff, and it's a competitive business.

Speaker 1 And I'm not even saying this about you and Shane, but you hear about other wrestlers, and it is a competitive business. And while you guys are all kind of...

Speaker 1 tugging on the same rope, you're also competing with each other for that shine, that spotlight. Anyone who's in media, even our company, like that's that's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Where, yeah, like you want to cut, you want to cut his throat, even though he's on the same side as you want.

Speaker 1 He and I are actually a team, but other people, we want to cut their throats. Yeah, you know, I think that that is one of the unique things about the business.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't exist without the other person.

Speaker 1 Um, sometimes people read into that too much.

Speaker 1 I'll go back in the day in the attitude era, like we all got along,

Speaker 1 but we also all didn't get along, you know, because it was very competitive. I mean, very competitive.
That's the best atmosphere for success. Yeah.
Now, that said,

Speaker 1 like, it didn't matter who in that locker room it was. If we were someplace,

Speaker 1 I might be not getting along with this person at all. I know in the ring together, we're magic.

Speaker 1 But outside of it, we don't see eye to eye and we might argue on a lot of things. But if somebody else comes along and messes with that person, that's my brother.
Right. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 And I will defend that to the death.

Speaker 1 So you, you see that kind of as this odd dynamic in there, but like everybody wanted to be the guy. Everybody wanted to be in that spot.

Speaker 1 And it was super competitive. And that's what breeds the best stuff in the business.
Trust me.

Speaker 1 When Rock would go out there and cut a promo, Austin was in the back chomping at the bit, saying, let me out there and cut one. And so was I.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when we'd have matches, we all wanted to be the thing that was the big shine on the card that night. And

Speaker 1 that's that's really when the business gets the best I think you see that today

Speaker 1 I don't know that it's as prevalent today because I think it's a and I don't mean this as a knockdown I don't want to sound like the old guy going the millennials but they just handle it differently

Speaker 1 right then we were verbally arguing about it and going at it not physically but like it was obvious yeah there were some issues right and that was it was kind of handled differently you had a problem with somebody in the locker room.

Speaker 1 You walked up to them and were like, hey,

Speaker 1 that ain't gonna fly.

Speaker 1 And if they had a problem with it, sometimes it did go to blows and then, or whatever.

Speaker 1 And but then that would person would almost become your closest friend because now you've kind of fought over something and you have that weird guy bond. Right, right.
It's weird, right?

Speaker 1 Like you punch somebody in the face, they punch you in the face, and then afterwards you're closer than before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and like kind of since we were first rushing Vince, but yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, and it's a funny thing too, in our business, Sean and I laugh about this all the time. I, I,

Speaker 1 the closer you are to somebody, the stiffer you work with them in the ring. Yeah, it just like I don't, Sean and I have said it before.

Speaker 1 Like, I've I think I've punched him harder than anybody I've ever punched in my life in the ring, right? Just in a match, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like I can hit my, he knows that they can't laugh about it. Like, I just almost knocked him out of my cool, I got you at that right time.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Was there anyone in particular that went a little bit harder at you than you would think that they would go at somebody else?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. You know,

Speaker 1 I was always one of those guys. I liked the physical side of the business.
Like I liked the contact and I liked the

Speaker 1 I didn't like working with certain guys are smooth and you know like even I'll give you Sean as an example. Sean can work where you don't feel him or Sean can work where

Speaker 1 you definitely feel it.

Speaker 1 I liked when Sean and I worked because Sean would come at me and I would come at him and it was physical and it was aggressive. I liked being able to feel what I was selling.

Speaker 1 I didn't necessarily always like guys that were too easy to work with or too light to work with because I felt like it, I don't know, it just felt like it wasn't right. Right.

Speaker 1 Human body craves contact. That's what Jim Harbaugh taught us.
Yeah, I guess so. And so that was always the magic part to me.

Speaker 1 So I never really thought about it sometimes when, you know, if like you're asking, oh, was this guy being overly physical with you?

Speaker 1 I have fired back on guys for like, Jesus, this guy, he's battering me. And if like, I'm going to take a couple more of these because a couple of these might be accidental, but then

Speaker 1 you find out it's not an accident. Yeah, and then you got to, like, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm a tough guy, but like, you got to light them up and go, like, hey, there's two ways of doing this.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not going to just be a doormat here. So I'm okay doing it the other way, but I'm going to, I'm, you're going to get that side of it too.
Right. Um, and usually then it eases up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you ever look back at some of the looks you had in the past and be like, ugh. Every one of them.
Like, yeah, like, which which ones, I mean,

Speaker 1 I could say the leather kangle. That one's pretty bad.
That was good at the time, though. Yeah, I mean, good at the time.
We were all wearing fanny packs. I know.
The fanny packs play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The leather kangle.

Speaker 1 You say the fanny packs play today because Rocks brought it back a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Five years ago, you would have been going, what were you thinking? Yeah. Look, we all had horrible hair.
No, the hair was smooth.

Speaker 1 You sold out by cutting the hair. I just got lazy, to be honest.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Summertimes get hot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like, there's a lot of stuff that you look at over the years and you think like, what there's moments in there where I got bored, wearing black, and went to colors for a little bit.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I look at that and go, what was I thinking? Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 You know, I just think if you get tired of doing the same thing, I suppose, like a band, you made 10 albums and then you do one album where it's like

Speaker 1 totally outside the box because you were just bored with your own crap, you know, and you start doing different stuff.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, for me, there's times in the business, especially where there's stuff that people, you look at certain looks and moments.

Speaker 1 Like there's parts when i i look at uh pictures of myself and i'm like good jesus could i be more out of shape in this and then i have to think about the picture and i'm like oh yeah like um

Speaker 1 you know like i had an injury that i couldn't like there's a period where i wore that everybody always goes like what was the weird biker short phase that you went through

Speaker 1 uh where i had these black biker shorts every guy has it yeah yeah well it wasn't though so what happened was i tore my uh groin i was world champion i tore my groin working with goldberg like popped my adductor off And like without the shorts on, these were like some kind of compression shorts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like tech shorts like NFL guys wear. Like it took like four people to get them on me because you have to stretch them out and they stick to you inside.
Whose job was that?

Speaker 1 Putting Triple H's shorts on? Yeah, trust me.

Speaker 1 Sean has done a lot of things with that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 without those shorts, I could hardly walk. With the shorts on, I could get through a match.

Speaker 1 But I couldn't train. I couldn't even like lay down a bench or anything because the, you know, everything core, right? So anything that would activate my core would pull on my groin.

Speaker 1 Like it was immensely painful

Speaker 1 and they take forever to heal. So there's this whole period of time where I'm like one, wearing like these goofy biker shorts with my chunks over it.

Speaker 1 And then on top of that, I'm like completely like fat and out of shape. And like, just like, I look at that whole period where I'm like, oh, God, like, terrible.
But nothing I could do about it.

Speaker 1 And how many surgeries did you have? I mean, you've been through so many injuries. I've had quite a few.

Speaker 1 Like, do you have a list of like all the I mean, I know you tore your quad straight off and you finished that match. So I did that twice.

Speaker 1 Your trachea got smashed and you almost like stopped breathing. Yeah.
I mean, what do you just have a pain threshold that's inhuman? Adrenaline is a magical thing.

Speaker 1 You know, look, I look back at some of that stuff now, and this is the kind of stuff that I say, like, I have to now tell talent, like,

Speaker 1 I'm stopping the match, right? Right.

Speaker 1 And Daniel Bryan and I almost one time this is a story about Daniel Bryan and I almost getting in a fight at guerrilla position where Randy Orton who's usually the most hot-headed person in the locker room in some level pulled us apart because

Speaker 1 I stopped Daniel's match and he because he was injured and Daniel wasn't going to stop the match and he was trying to tell us he wasn't injured but his arm was hanging and I could see it and he was telling him he was fine and I called the match.

Speaker 1 When he came up, he was livid and was like yelling at me about how I finished a match with a detached retina and whose right is it to yours? And I'm like, dude, I finished a match with a torn quad.

Speaker 1 Like, don't tell me anything. But I know the better now.
Like, just my job, you know, and, but he got heated. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, in the moment, like people ask me a lot on the quad thing.

Speaker 1 Because you were in the walls of Jericho with the torn quad. I tore it.
We did some stuff. I went out to the floor.

Speaker 1 I don't remember how much longer the match was, but Jericho asked me, like, are you hurt? And I'm like, yeah. He said, how bad? I'm like, bad.
And he said,

Speaker 1 whispering this to you guys. I said, what do you want to do? He was like, I was near the table.
He said, what do you want to do? Because he knew we were going to Walls of Jericho.

Speaker 1 He knew it was my leg. And I said, fuck it, Chris, just do it.

Speaker 1 And immediately regretted the decision when he put me in the Walls of Jericho. Yeah.
I was begging somebody for coming and get me out of that thing.

Speaker 1 But it's just one of those things. I don't know if it's just

Speaker 1 the way I'm wired or if it's adrenaline. I don't know.
But it never dawned on me like, oh, I should should probably tell the referee I'm hurt and stop, you know, or same.

Speaker 1 I did, I did the same thing with my other quad. I did it with my pec in Saudi in

Speaker 1 the Middle East with Taker and Kane where like

Speaker 1 I was that was the Instagram picture. Yeah, I was I was doing

Speaker 1 an upside down bump in the corner. Sean and I used to do this stuff when we were young where Sean would go upside down in the corner and then I'd take a bump over him.

Speaker 1 And I was trying to protect him in the corner. I didn't want to crush him.
And I just dug in too deep on the top rope. And as soon as I went over, I felt my pec tear off.

Speaker 1 We got to the floor, and I told Sean, and he was like, Oh my god, what are we going to do? And he was going to go tell the ref to stop the match.

Speaker 1 I was like, Hold on a second, hold on a second, let me take inventory for a minute. And Doc came out, our doc came out because you know, now it's a different world, right? He'll make the call.

Speaker 1 So, he came to me, said, What'd you do? I told him I tore my pec.

Speaker 1 He said,

Speaker 1 Let me feel it. He put his fingers in.
He said, Yeah, no, it's off. And I was like, I know.
And then he said, You want me to call it? And I said, So let me ask what happens

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 what's the worst that can happen? He said, well, it's already torn. He said, it's not going to be pleasant, but he said, if you can keep your shoulder in the socket, like, then

Speaker 1 keep your arm close to your body. So I was like, all right, so I said,

Speaker 1 let's keep going. And he said, I'll stay at ringside.
So then I just told Sean, I said, good to go. I'm going to fight left-handed.
And I just.

Speaker 1 If you watch a whole match, I'm trying to keep my arm at my side. Kane even put me through a table later.

Speaker 1 Of course, trying to do something with that. I mean, trying to do that.
That's a very casual thing.

Speaker 1 They can't put me through a table, I'm trying to keep my arm in because I was afraid when I hit the table, my arm would go out and my whole arm would come out of the socket or something.

Speaker 1 Now, is this only in the ring that you don't feel pain, or if you're out doing you know, yard work and you hit yourself like with a hammer or something on your finger?

Speaker 1 I'm rolling this chair on my genitals right now, just to feel pain, and I don't feel it at all.

Speaker 1 Damn, that's crazy, that is crazy. Um, all right, I have a couple uh apologies I need from you.
You ready? yeah okay uh

Speaker 1 you fucked over x-pac when you gave uh you turned on him and you gave shane mcmahon the european championship which isn't even a real championship apologize please i i'm i'm not gonna apologize for that one kid did not want to hold the european championship in the first place that hurt though That one hurt.

Speaker 1 And you went corporate and all that stuff. He was happy for me to get the European title off of him at the time, the coveted European title.
Yes, the European title is the funniest thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wanted it over. Okay.
Was that before or after he took a shit in a cup?

Speaker 1 You'd have to name the time.

Speaker 1 Is it a

Speaker 1 penchant for that in cups? Yeah, is it a Dixie cup or just a glass, whatever's around? Whatever happens to be in catering. Yeah, the time he took a shit in a cup and then put it in Sable's bag.

Speaker 1 Is that true? It's a rumor. A rumor.
It's a rumor. Allegedly.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
No, I mean,

Speaker 1 I've heard

Speaker 1 just so many stories about so many guys doing so much stuff backstage that is just absolutely bogus. It becomes this urban legend that is just built up into this ridiculous stuff.

Speaker 1 None of that ever happened. I've heard a million stories where,

Speaker 1 but then I've also heard the guys tell it and then

Speaker 1 like the guys in the business telling it. I'm like, you're starting to read the stuff that's out there and believe that that's what happened because I was there and that didn't happen at all.

Speaker 1 It was not a message board.

Speaker 1 It was a Ziploc bag.

Speaker 5 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 What about when you paid Rikishi to run over Stone Cold? Yeah. That was fucked up.
It was.

Speaker 1 I do feel a little bit bad for you. Okay, there we go.
Delvo, like, it wasn't that expensive, and it was effective. That was when you came out

Speaker 1 and basically had the whole crowd just in your

Speaker 1 essentially you're like, I'm the bad guy, I'm the guy that you're looking for. Like,

Speaker 1 when you have the booze versus the cheers, I mean, the booze have to feel

Speaker 1 like it's a good thing. There was a period of time in the beginning of the Attitude Era with Sean and I, where we had some riots.

Speaker 1 And even when you know Steph and I will talk about it every now and then of like

Speaker 1 because she was just becoming a character in the business like when we did the McMahon Elmsley stuff and we had like legitimate like

Speaker 1 serious heat

Speaker 1 I remember one time when we were just getting done the show and we were walking up to the top of the stage and a baseball, I just saw it in the corner of my eye, a baseball coming out of the upper deck and it went like whoosh right my ear, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And like it would have killed one of us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, that's the kind of stuff like

Speaker 1 there was a lot of stuff like that all the time then and it was still a kind of a wonky area of people buying into things and all that. But yeah, we had some legitimate heat, but I loved it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Isn't that like the best compliment that people are actually mad at you because they think it's 100% real, which it is? Yeah, I loved it. And then would try to carry it over sometimes.

Speaker 1 I'll apologize for that now to anybody that I offended back in the day because I would try to carry it over.

Speaker 1 Because sometimes, especially during the attitude area, like you go to the airport, if I was nice to a kid that came over and like cautiously asked me for an autograph, I was like, sure, and I signed it.

Speaker 1 It was almost like they were disappointed. Like, right.
Man, I thought he was going to punch me. Chris Jericho told us that story, yeah, on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, about like just basically just shitting on a kid in Madison Square Garden because he had to do it. Yeah.
Yeah. Not letting the kid get on the elevator with him.

Speaker 1 Kicking him off. He had to do it.
Yeah. And so that was kind of the

Speaker 1 mantra. And, you know, the things were a little bit more freewheeling back then.
so you could go to the airport and be an actor.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they just were like, Well, I guess he's just a dick in real life, and then you just kind of go on with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the only place I tried not to do that was at home, you know, just because I didn't, you know, like people burn your house or something like that, you're not there where you live, right?

Speaker 1 You take to your neighbors,

Speaker 1 yes, yes, yes. Um, all right, I got uh, one last question: it is a SeatGeek question: put in promo code take, you get ten dollars off your SeatGeek purchase, go to a WWE match.

Speaker 1 Any of that seek case you want to go to a wwe match yeah they can we can get you in ten dollars off promo code take all right cool here we go uh

Speaker 1 the what describe the perfect match like what goes into a perfect match and which match in your career is closest to that oh man

Speaker 1 so perfect matches to me it's it's a difficult thing to say because i don't believe that like i'm i'm a big believer in all of the stuff that we do is just stunts

Speaker 1 the story is what gets people, right? There's that

Speaker 1 May Angelou statement of like people don't remember what you say, they don't remember what you do, they remember how you make them feel. I believe that's what's true in our business.

Speaker 1 It's the emotion of what you do. I think she was talking about WHO.

Speaker 1 She was, actually, yeah, the emotionality of it. Right.

Speaker 1 So the perfect match to me is something that just builds throughout. And you're engaged in the whole time.
And by the end of it, you're almost like emotionally drained.

Speaker 1 And it's not about, oh my God, when he did the one, I can't believe they did that double flying, flipping a jigger thing. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Those things to me are sort of, they're the moments. That's the really cool dinosaur.
But if the story is garbage, all those other things don't mean anything.

Speaker 1 And that's why some guys get over and some guys don't. I was taught very early.

Speaker 1 One of the first things that I learned from Kowalski was make them look at you. And I didn't understand when he was first saying it, right?

Speaker 1 One time he explained it to me. He said, the last thing you want to do when you leave an arena is have them go, hey, that one match was pretty good.
And have the guy with them go, which one?

Speaker 1 You know, the one where they did this thing and the thing happened. What you want them to go is, you know who's awesome? Killer Kowalski.

Speaker 1 That. Right.
And the match was awesome, but you know what match was awesome? That Kowalski match. That's, man, what what a show.
That Kowalski match was off the chart. Then, then you have them, right?

Speaker 1 Then you've built something that connects with them and stays with them. Otherwise, it was the Transformer movie, and you go, the one robot looked cool.
Yeah, right. I liked that explosion.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The special effect was awesome.
Yeah. So what is the best storyline that you've ever been involved in, the most compelling storyline?

Speaker 1 I think that at various points in time, some of the stuff I've done with Sean, because it was so

Speaker 1 believably real, because we were so close as friends. And I think you could see that.
And then the ability for us to transfer that, but know each other's mannerisms and everything.

Speaker 1 And also the openness for me to do horrible things to him and then him to get it back on me.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the... business is the magic

Speaker 1 when you're trying in that storytelling process I've always approached it as a heel of like I'm trying to outsell the other guy it's not about the moves I do I'm trying to outsell him so if I'm the bad guy

Speaker 1 when I'm when I'm getting the heat beating that guy up he should be trying to outsell me get so much sympathy and so much

Speaker 1 you know selling in that people feel terrible and want to see him hopefully come back and beat the shit out of me.

Speaker 1 On the flip side of that, when it's time for him to get angry and fight, he's got to have that fire and that intensity.

Speaker 1 But on the flip side of that, now's my turn to outsell everything he just did for me and to

Speaker 1 give that back and then some.

Speaker 1 So when you approach things in that way, especially if because you either believe in the other talent or you like that other talent or you enjoy working with that other talent, when you approach it in that way, man, it's magic.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's tough that it doesn't always get approached that way. So some of my stuff with Sean, look, the truth is, I've been fortunate in my career.
I came in a time that

Speaker 1 when I first walked in the doors of the WWE,

Speaker 1 I had a plethora of guys with a massive amount of experience to learn and grow from. From Scott Hall to Brett, you know, I'd get in the ring with Brett a lot to Sean to

Speaker 1 Nash, just everybody.

Speaker 1 And then even guys that were comic wrestlers, like something like the Bushwhackers, but like they had 20 plus 30 years of experience and you would learn from being in the ring with them all these different things.

Speaker 1 So you grew from that. And then when it got to be the time when I could

Speaker 1 launch myself, I was in the ring. You know, you look at that era and it's a who's who of the best in the business, right? Like

Speaker 1 Austin, Rock, Sean, Foley, Taker.

Speaker 1 Kane,

Speaker 1 I mean, just, just the who's who of everybody in the business. So I can look look at points in time in my career and say, look, I love the stuff I did with Foley.
I love the stuff I did with Taker.

Speaker 1 I love what I did with Sean, Rock, Austin. Like, there's so many guys that I go, like, man,

Speaker 1 for me to say, like, one thing was the best or one thing was my favorite, it almost takes away, I feel like, from all those things I had because they all contributed to it.

Speaker 1 And they're all, for me, the best parts of my career.

Speaker 1 Speaking of that, do you ever get mad when you see, like, if you're watching sports and they're like greatest teams of all time and they don't list you in Stone Cold?

Speaker 1 The two-man power trip, they absolutely should. It's kind of bullshit.
The dream team guys were

Speaker 1 unstoppable. And it was only cut short by my injury.

Speaker 1 That was going to be a big run. Forever.
Yeah, it was going to be a big run. And we had a lot of fun doing it.
I mean, you guys were badass. It's that and X-Pac and Kane.
I love the size of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a cool one.

Speaker 1 That's kind of what we go for. Yeah, right.
Our whole kind of operation. That's your stick.
Yeah, yeah, right, right, exactly.

Speaker 1 You know, you talk about

Speaker 1 the people and the storytelling. Like, that's the thing, I think for me, that's the magic of what we do at NXT, right? Like, so the talent are young and hungry, and they're really wanting to do it.

Speaker 1 And we're trying to teach them all these components of outselling and the emotion. But when you break down what that show is, it's about the storytelling.

Speaker 1 And I think the storytelling gets to be more succinct and more

Speaker 1 direct and simpler sometimes, but because of that, becomes almost more relatable to people that are the more passionate fans of what we do because we don't have to cater to the casual fans as much.

Speaker 1 And I think that's the magic of it.

Speaker 1 When you talk about being the alternatives, we're not just a stunt show. We're not Michael Bay movies where we're going to just go out there and

Speaker 1 put on a stunt fest or give you these action sequences that are crazy, but when you leave the theater, you forget all about it.

Speaker 1 When you leave the arena, it's like, eh, you know, we're going to give you stuff that resonates and sticks with you every week. That was a professional segue right there.
That was great. And perfect.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 right back in your problem.

Speaker 1 The more you describe wrestling, the more to me it sounds exactly like first take on ESPN. When it was skip against Stephen A.
Smith, going head-to-head. It's like that is exactly what they've taken.

Speaker 1 They've stripped all the physicality out of it and just put two guys at a desk. Take promo class every week for them, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Going at it.
Um, thank you. This has been a dream of mine.

Speaker 1 Also, I thought you killed Mick Foley when you threw him through the cell. Yeah.
You went through the ring. There's a moment where I wasn't sure, too.
Was that set up? Now, that one, that one was.

Speaker 1 So the one with Taker was partially

Speaker 1 meant and partially not. So it was supposed to break slowly.
He was supposed to fall through. It broke completely and he just went straight through.

Speaker 1 And Taker legit thought, oh my God, I might have just killed him. Right.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, talk about pain tolerance. Foley gets up and keeps going and, you know, crazy with a tooth sticking out of his nose and the whole thing, right?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 in our Hell in the Cell match,

Speaker 1 that was a little bit planned. It was laid out and planned.
All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I did think he was dead that time. I was like, well, there it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Big Cat would make a tremendous referee. Like, I was saying this earlier, but

Speaker 1 he believes everything that happens in front of him. So you're ever looking to pull me out by my legs.
And I'm like, I didn't see it. I know you're MVP of talent, right?

Speaker 1 This guy, he looks like a rap. Tell me when.
So look. You can step in.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I'll be in Orlando every week now, right, for NXT. This is another professional segue, right back to the two-hour weekly show that we'll shoot out of Full Sale University.

Speaker 1 But that means I'm at the Performance Center. Come down, we'll give you a tryout.
We'll see what we do. I'm in.
I'm in. I would be a great rap.
You got a rough spotty.

Speaker 1 And honestly, have you guys been down there? I know.

Speaker 1 I actually, one of our coworkers, Robbie Fox, is trying to do, he's going to do a tour. We might be with him.

Speaker 1 So as much as you can come to the show and go backstage, and that's cool, but

Speaker 1 it's like the show. Right.

Speaker 1 I guess the difference would be, to me, it's like going backstage. Like if you're a Metallica fan, go backstage and

Speaker 1 at the show, like, oh, that's cool. But if you had the opportunity to go to the recording studio and sit in on like them jamming and sessions and all that, like that's a different environment.

Speaker 1 It's the performance center is the guts of what we do. Seven rings in there.
When they're cooking, when everybody's in there and strengthen conditions going and all the stuff is happening, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like the energy in there.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 a candy store. If you're a fan of what we do and like the art form of it and the

Speaker 1 kind of the insides of it, man,

Speaker 1 it's an unbelievable experience. I mean, it's three miles down the road from Full Sale.
So like if you guys want to come to a show, just come to one of the shows and let us know.

Speaker 1 You can interview some people or do some stuff while you're there. Oh, yeah.
And we have all the set up to do everything you need. And we have a content lab there where we can shoot whatever.

Speaker 1 And you can do it. Yeah, we don't even have one of those.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can do it in the

Speaker 1 woman's center itself.

Speaker 1 But yeah, anytime you want to come down and be a part of it, and you come to the show that night. Would I have to work out if I was a refere?

Speaker 1 Nah, but you do have to run and get up and down a little bit. so you've got to be in shape a little.

Speaker 1 You can't, do you can't? There used to be an old school referee that used to stand up. There's a debate about this.
We all say it's Bronco Lubits.

Speaker 1 Michael Hayes thinks it's not, but where he used to stand up and count with his foot.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like a horse.

Speaker 1 He was too lazy to get up and down on the false finishes, so he would only get down and count the actual finish. But on the false finishes, he would just stand up and count with his foot.

Speaker 1 Just got your belly. Just slap it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, check out NXT USA Network Wednesday night when this airs, you will be on.
So everyone watch it. It's going to be

Speaker 1 a little bit. This show,

Speaker 1 if you're a fan of what we do, like this is the deep dive.

Speaker 1 You know, Ron, SmackDown are phenomenal shows with some of the best talent in the world, but they're general entertainment shows in a way, and they have to put a lot of things in there.

Speaker 1 Bell to bell, there's no product like NXT.

Speaker 1 And we will show that every Wednesday. Love it.
Love it. Triple H, thank you so much.
Thank you, Show.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Thanks.
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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get some segments. By the way, PFT,

Speaker 1 do you realize what's at stake? In what?

Speaker 1 You're talking about Andy Reid still? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 That was like one

Speaker 1 boop. It was just no, it wasn't.
It was a callback.

Speaker 1 It was a pun.

Speaker 1 Do you know what's at stake, though?

Speaker 1 In what? In what way? The fact that you could be responsible for killing Tommy Lasorda. No, no, I'm not.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 If you listen to that, if you listen to that. No.

Speaker 1 I just brought him back to life, though, and you me on these ads. I know, I know, but you just...
I'm just telling you. Okay, be careful.
Big cat. Be careful what you wish.
Yes, be careful.

Speaker 1 Okay, we won a one-game series today. Life is just a bunch of one-game series stacked end-to-end to end on top of each other.

Speaker 1 So if we happen to beat Tommy, I think he would want to go out that way by being defeated by a franchise with such a proud tradition of postseason excellence as the Washington Nationals.

Speaker 1 We are on Tommy Watch. It's October.

Speaker 1 The Dodgers are going to hold like the odds are that they're going to go to the World Series again.

Speaker 1 Tommy Watch is on. I'm more concerned that Tommy hasn't said anything about how he's going to die if they lose.
That tells me that he might not be in it as much. Well, no,

Speaker 1 he's got to wait till Thursday for the pump-up speech. And he might be overlooking the Nats.
Who knows? So, well,

Speaker 1 first of all, we got to wait. You can't overlook anything at that end.
Tomorrow to tell him the Nats won, and then we'll assess. Okay.
Because he definitely doesn't know. He's like, Green Day.

Speaker 1 Wake him up when September's over.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is officially Tommy Watch season. I have a segment that I didn't tell you about, but I just saw this story.
Okay. Our long national nightmare is over.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins apologized to Adam Thielen for not throwing him the ball more deep on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Such a beta. So Virgin Kirk Cousins, Chad, Adam Thielen.

Speaker 1 Chadam Thielen. I also, someone just tagged me in a tweet reminding me of the time that Kirk Cousins did a gender reveal and basically missed the throw from three yards away.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That actually happened. That actually happened.
One of his better throws. Yes.
All right. You have a Saber metrics PFT.
Yes, Sabre Metrics. So this happened over the weekend.

Speaker 1 A Miami Dolphins vendor overcharged an attendee at the Dolphins game by $700 for beer. So he swiped his card or did like a

Speaker 1 cash app type transaction on the go. And for two beers, he charged him $700 and they arrested the guy.

Speaker 1 So it was obviously on purpose because he's like, there's no one at this game.

Speaker 1 I need to make my nut. Yeah, basically, the vendor was like, I'm not going to sell this much beer.
Actually, you should probably be selling more beer to Dolphins fans.

Speaker 1 You should be drinking a shitload if you're still at a Miami Dolphins game.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins should do like $1 beer night. I think you're right.
I think that team should charge less the worse the team is. Yeah, like stock market prices.

Speaker 1 If your team is going to go, if your team is above $500, you can double the price. If they're below $500, you have to half it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if they're 0-16, then you should just load up the t-shirt cannon with trulies and just shoot spike seltzers at people.

Speaker 1 I'm not a math guy, but times it by... No, that's their winning percentage.
I don't know. Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to figure out how many games above 500 they are. That's the percentage you have to charge on.
Oh, that's too much math. And then below.
Just do minus a dollar or plus a dollar.

Speaker 1 Just do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 The bank actually flagged the transaction.

Speaker 1 This is a great opportunity, by the way, because there are a lot of people that have been to, well, not a lot, but there are at least a dozen people that have been to a Dolphins game in the last week.

Speaker 1 You can just say, oh, yeah, that $100 I spent on beer, that must have been fake too. Yes.
And alert your bank and tell them that. Yeah, I wasn't at that game.

Speaker 1 Wait, so actually to go back to that, that is perfect. $1

Speaker 1 for,

Speaker 1 so every game you're above or below $500 is $1

Speaker 1 black or red. So if you go, if the Dolphins go 0-15 in their last home game, they pay you for a beer.
Yeah. And Murphy.
They pay you like $4. If a beer is $12, or yeah, they'll pay you $3 for a beer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Murphy's

Speaker 1 has to come out like a table girl in Vegas with the beer with a sparkler on top of it and put it in your hand. I like that.
Why don't they do that?

Speaker 1 Also, I'm pretty sure every bank in America has something in their algorithms that flags if you spend more than like $50 on concessions at any Miami sporting event because nobody stays at a game long enough to get that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like, is this, are you sure?

Speaker 1 Maybe they're like, hey, this transaction happened at 10.30 at night.

Speaker 1 There's no way. Wait a second.
This hot dog and ice cream was not sold in the second quarter. What the hell is that? Interesting.
I'm going to investigate.

Speaker 1 The Florida Panthers, remember them? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just like a weird one to throw out there every now and then.

Speaker 1 The Florida Panthers are a franchise. Yeah.
Wait, they still are?

Speaker 1 Do the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 10 minutes from Jake.

Speaker 1 That's just Darling Jake.

Speaker 1 That's just... That's a woe.
What was the last one? That's the biggest woe we've ever had. Hey, think about the Florida Panthers.
Okay, the only... They had Luongo?

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, that's how I know. They also had, what's her name? The pop star.
She got hit by a puck twice when she was a kid. She has a season ticket.
Me Khalifa. Ariana Grande.
Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sophie Julia, Sideliner Porter.

Speaker 1 That's right. They have to be.

Speaker 1 Could you think of a more

Speaker 1 forgettable franchise? Whoa.

Speaker 1 I'm going through it right now. I don't think so.
Atlanta Thrashers. But they don't exist.
I'm saying the ones that actually exist. That's still in the future.
They still exist. Florida Panthers.

Speaker 1 Whoa. I mean, to put it in perspective, the closest you get in the NFL is the Tennessee Titans.
Yeah, but that's not even. Like, everyone knows the Titans exist.
Whoa. Florida Panthers.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 That's crazy, man. I mean, the Rays are in a fucking playoff game.
And the Panthers. The Coyotes, maybe? No, because the Coyotes biz.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And also Rafi Torres, that scumbag.

Speaker 1 But Florida Panthers, whoa. Who are they? What about baseball? What's the baseball equivalent?

Speaker 1 It's probably the Rays, but they're decent, so not even the Rays. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Florida Panthers are the most irrelevant

Speaker 1 franchise in the history of sports. Have to be.
Have to be.

Speaker 2 They need a logo change.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do. You're right, Hank.
They absolutely do. Or they need the beer thing.
Just give away beer. Pay everyone to drink beer.
I like that too.

Speaker 1 Okay, speaking of our darling Jake, PMT Sports Biz Minute. Good morning, this is Jake Marsh with the PMT Sports Biz Minute.
The MLB postseason is here.

Speaker 1 And what better way to start things off than with the 2019 wild card games. Brewers napped last night, while the Rays and A's go at it this evening.

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But the Joker didn't appear until sometime around the 1860s.

Speaker 1 That's when the game of Euchre was extremely popular. This weekend, Mr.
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Commenter. Back to you.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake. Very cool.
Very cool, Jake. Very cool.
All right, let's finish up. Guys on Chick's Hake.

Speaker 2 All right, I'll read the other one that I thought was a guy because we get a lot of these and it always confuses me because I feel like

Speaker 2 this just wouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 But I could be wrong. Okay.
Sub dudes, is it a Verge move to get my dicks? No, it's a guy pretending to be a

Speaker 5 guy pretending to be a girl.

Speaker 2 Like a lot of the

Speaker 2 guy pretending to be a girl. Okay.
Hey, PMT boys, I was super horny this past Sunday to the point where I told my boyfriend I wanted to suck him dry on the spot.

Speaker 1 His response was, no, can't.

Speaker 2 It's the witching hour.

Speaker 2 Is it even worth it to try and get some on Sundays anymore?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't think a guy wrote this in.

Speaker 1 Suck him dry?

Speaker 1 Definitely. This is a million plus.

Speaker 2 What girl's been like, I want to suck you dry. A guy says, I want you to suck.

Speaker 1 That's a guy thing to say. She's a girl's girls never like.
I'm so horny. I want to make you come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know the answer. I mean, no.
Sex turns. And what? Witching hour? No.
No.

Speaker 1 No fly zone. Also, because she was probably really into the witching hour, too.
I think that crosses spectrums of gender. That's true.
Even women.

Speaker 1 Especially women sometimes. They're like, no, I got to watch Phillip Rivers.
He's down a score. Although, with the witching hour, this past week wasn't that exciting.
So maybe it was.

Speaker 2 What's up, boys? Especially Chonk Cat. Fuck.
This weekend was my best friend. This weekend, my best friend is getting married.

Speaker 2 I decided to check out some of my future brother-in-law's guy relatives to see if I'd be happy drunkenly ending up having a one-night staying with one of them. Is this a good idea?

Speaker 2 And do I look like a whore and ruin my reputation with my new in-laws? No, you don't.

Speaker 1 We don't shame.

Speaker 1 No, this is exactly what every this is the only way that people ever had sex before online dating was they would just hook up with somebody at a wedding and let me give you a little tip you actually are this is actually your present Is it his sister?

Speaker 1 Her sister? No, it's her best friend.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. She's

Speaker 2 getting married.

Speaker 1 Oh, her best friend. Because otherwise it would kind of be.
Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's, I thought that's what it was. I mean, no judgment.

Speaker 1 But this is actually, this can be considered your wedding gift because you now give the bride and groom something to talk about.

Speaker 1 So they can be like, hey, can you believe so-and-so hooked up with your cousin? Like, that's invaluable. So you have to do it and then just be like, that was our wedding gift to give you gossip.

Speaker 1 And pro tip: the next morning at the brunch, take separate elevators down. No, maybe date for a while and then just give me more gossip, but then have a really messy breakup.

Speaker 1 And, well, or get married, and then that is the ultimate gift: is to tell a couple, we met at your wedding, and it was so romantic that we ended up getting married. We had to do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 My boyfriend of one year is fun, but very straight-edge. Every time I try to sext him, he just says, hot or something lame like that.

Speaker 1 How do I get him to sext me back?

Speaker 1 You might be better off not because it sounds like this is that's his go-to move is just saying hot. And some guys are just really awful at sexting and will just completely turn you off.

Speaker 1 So just accept the fact that he's not, he's not a wordsmith. You're not dating Billy Shakespeare.

Speaker 1 He also might have just been ruined by like Anthony Weiner text messages going, you know, viral and shit like that.

Speaker 1 Like where you see some super horny dude and his sexting goes viral and you're like, don't ever want to be caught in that situation.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What was that, Hank? You poo-pooed that. You said, nah.

Speaker 2 I don't think, you know, if a guy is a sexter,

Speaker 2 they're not going to get curbed off by the internet. They're not going to be like, oh, this guy got caught.

Speaker 1 But if he's on the line, if he's like, he doesn't know if he's a sexed her or not.

Speaker 2 I just don't. I feel like you either are or you're not.

Speaker 1 Okay. What's your sex game like, Hank? You don't want to know.
I mean, it's. Because

Speaker 1 the way you dismissed it earlier made it seem like, nah, you got to fire back with some stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you're so hot. Yeah.
You got it, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's hot.

Speaker 1 That's hot. I just like to do the

Speaker 1 hold down and then emphasize, emphasize, emphasize repeatedly on her text message. That's hot.

Speaker 1 That's like thrusting.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's saying it in the Paris Hilton voice. That's why, so you're just misunderstanding it.
That's hot.

Speaker 2 Sup, Hank and the bad boys.

Speaker 2 Recently, it sounds like a band. band.
Yo. Recently, my boyfriend has started openly admitting when he is headed to jerk off.

Speaker 2 I'm starting to wonder if it's because I'm not always in the mood and he is trying to make me feel bad.

Speaker 1 Should I be concerned? It might be what he's doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, power move. Seems like.

Speaker 1 Jerking it off of you, boss. Jerk it off then.
It seems like that would be something you would use as cover for something worse, though.

Speaker 1 Ooh, geez. Oh, damn.
Like, every time you say, I'm going to go jerk off real quick, he's going into the bathroom and crushing up lines of pseudo-fed and snorting him. Texting his other family.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's doing meth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he's got a second family that lives in your bathroom and he's feeding them scraps from the table. Hey, guys.
Look under the toilet, lift the lid up, and check.

Speaker 2 So, my boyfriend and I have been dating for a few years now, and I always seem to be the one planning dates or things to do since he's not much of a planner or a romancer.

Speaker 2 How do I get him to sometimes plan things or be romantic without me nagging him about it?

Speaker 1 Hmm. It's tough.
Planning is the worst

Speaker 1 so we're not gonna do that okay so here actually no um

Speaker 1 from experience here's the best way to do it when he does plan something or does something romantic just overly overly thank him like be like that was so so nice thank you so much and then you hope that his caveman brain a light bulb will go off and be like hey that was pretty nice of me to do that once.

Speaker 1 That's really all you got.

Speaker 2 Or just like name-drop that your friend, even if it didn't happen, just be like, oh, my friend from work, her boyfriend did the most romantic thing ever.

Speaker 1 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Also, this guy, maybe, yeah, if he's listening, pro tip, dude, you don't even have to do the plans, you just have to talk about plans.

Speaker 1 If you talk about plans enough, that will be enough.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're just like, hey, we should do something this weekend, flash forward Friday or Saturday, you're sitting on the couch watching Notre Dame Bowling Green, but you said you were going to do something.

Speaker 1 That's almost a plan. I like that idea a lot.

Speaker 1 Here's what you could do, too: you could make a plan and say, Hey, I've got this great afternoon planned out, but it's your job to plan out dinner afterwards.

Speaker 1 So that way, he's included, he's part of it, but he's also kind of on the hot seat, he has to do something. And the great afternoon plan is watching Notre Dame Bowling Green.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 I don't know what my aim is to say I'm taking

Speaker 1 today's on my day to find you shy away

Speaker 1 So I've been coming for your lovers

Speaker 1 You're all things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 You're sharing away.

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