Chris Bosh, Eli Benched, Big Ben Hurt, And Guys On Chicks

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Speaker 1 We talked to him about everything: retirement, playing for the heat, becoming the guy who's maybe not the main guy living in LeBron's shadow. He also said some salacious things about LeBron.

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But we talked about all of that. We have Eli Manning, Big Ben, Hot Seat Cool Throne.
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Speaker 2 This is a tough, tough couple days for us. Within the span of about 24 hours, we had to deal with the fact that Big Ben is out for the season, getting elbow surgery done.

Speaker 2 The anesthesiologist is going to come in with some pills inside some peanut butter, put it on the roof of his mouth, and then he'll wake up with a tingly arm again.

Speaker 2 And then Eli Manning, benched, our sweet boy. Shermer listened to us.
Might be the end.

Speaker 1 Yes, he listened to us on Monday saying, Hey, are you a bad coach? And he said, You know what? Pardon my takes, right? I have to pull the plug on Eli. So that leaves us now with

Speaker 1 just Phil Rivers and Matt Chaub from the 2004 NFL draft. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's it. I mean, these things are the torch bears.

Speaker 1 I think Matt Chaub might might outlast all of them.

Speaker 2 These things come in threes, much like the Bears' offense. So I don't know who's going to be next, but one and one if it's going to be one in one.

Speaker 2 I hope Phil Rivers is okay. I can't bear to lose all three of those guys

Speaker 2 in the same NFL season. I just can't.

Speaker 1 It sucks because Big Ben,

Speaker 1 as much as we have fun with him and we laugh at him and we talk about the walking boot and that he is a dog yelping every single time he gets sacked and says that he's injured, even though he's not, he actually is injured this time.

Speaker 1 And Big Ben not being in the NFL season is a bummer because Big Ben is always funny and it's always fun to watch even Big Ben in the fourth quarter when you know he can come back and he's always got his team in it.

Speaker 1 Now that's gone. Eli, a little different case because Eli's been dead for a couple years now.
Yeah. But his,

Speaker 1 I keep almost saying his retirement, his benching for Daniel Jones is the end of his career, I would assume.

Speaker 2 Don't ever count Eli out, though.

Speaker 1 Archie Manning pulled the plug at the perfect time, so he's 116 and 116 career record.

Speaker 1 So that was a call from Archie to Pat Shermer: like, hey, we need my boy to sit down because he can't finish under 500. And now we get the discussion: Eli Manning, Hall of Famer.
Oh, of course.

Speaker 1 First ballot Hall of Famer. I don't know if he's first ballot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got two Super Bowls, two of the greatest Super Bowls, two of the most improbable Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 And any Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And.

Speaker 2 And.

Speaker 1 A remarkably average career outside of those two.

Speaker 2 If you can spend your entire career, how long has he been in the league? He got drafted in what, 2004? 2004?

Speaker 2 So he's been in the league for 15 years.

Speaker 2 If you can go exactly 500 after 15 years of playing football, that's super impressive. So not just, not, not just, no, Hank, listen to me.

Speaker 1 On the DOS, the Hall of Famer. On the DOS, Hank, on the Hall of Average.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a good point. It's not the Hall of Very Good.
People do forget about the Hall of Very Good.

Speaker 2 But if you can keep any job and be perfectly average at it for that long, then you're doing something right.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I obviously think that Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer because the Super Bowl is winning the Super Bowl is the pinnacle of American sports.

Speaker 1 It's the biggest trophy of all the sports. And when you win the Super Bowl, you are...

Speaker 2 President's Cup trophies up there.

Speaker 1 You are there forever. Like, that is, you know, Joe Namath is in the Hall of Fame.
If you look at Joe Namath's stats,

Speaker 1 they stink.

Speaker 1 He won a Super Bowl. The Super Bowl carries so much weight that I am totally fine with Eli Manning definitely being in the Hall of Fame because of those two runs.
And they were incredible runs.

Speaker 1 The 2011 run, he was out of this world. He went 4-0 both times, goes on the road, gets the shit kicked out of him in that San Francisco game.

Speaker 1 Remember when Kenny Williams' son just fumbled every fucking ball in the rain? Yep.

Speaker 2 The Tom Coughlin red-face game in green game.

Speaker 1 Right. So those runs stand above everything else.
And I am a big believer in, like, it's kind of the Terrell Davis thing, Terrell Davis. His peak was so exceptional, even though it was short.

Speaker 1 So Eli's peak was very, very short because it was literally just two playoffs.

Speaker 1 But I think it's fair to say he's not a first ballot hall of famer because the rest of his career was remarkably average I went through it

Speaker 1 he never his his best year 2010 he's never been a top three quarterback in the NFL his his best year 2010 he was fourth in touchdowns fifth in yards ninth in completion percentage that's the only time in his career he finished top 10 in all three categories yeah but he won two super bowls he won two super bowls every single time you go through if you go through it he was like almost middle of the pack for everything every single year.

Speaker 1 He had a couple, he had that 2009 to about 2012, he peaked as a quarterback. And even in those years, he was not a top three quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So I think it's fair to say he's in the Hall of Fame, but a first balloter should at some point in his career have been the best or close to the best at his position.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he won two Super Bowls. He won two Super Bowlers.

Speaker 2 Also, Hank, you should be the one beating the drum for Eli to be a first ballot Hall of Famer because that way you can say Tom Brady's only, or two out of his three Super Bowl losses, came against a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 So that's good for you in that case. I guess.

Speaker 1 Eli Manning, so we don't understand what QBR is. No.
No one does. No.
But what was his highest QBR in a season?

Speaker 2 Are we talking about the stat that Archie invented? Are we talking about the

Speaker 1 passer rating? No, QBR of 100.

Speaker 2 QBR.

Speaker 2 89.1.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. What did he finish in terms of overall in the league?

Speaker 2 Oh, against every other quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 a lot of eighth. Eighth was his peak.
He was pretty much like 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, basically every single run.

Speaker 2 That's fine.

Speaker 1 He was right there.

Speaker 1 He was, I think, for the majority of Eli Manning's career, he was somewhere between the eighth and twelfth best quarterback in the NFL, but he won two Super Bowls, and he had those two runs, and I'm totally fine with those.

Speaker 1 carrying more water than everything else, more weight, sorry, than everything else. But I think it's okay to say he's not first first ballot.

Speaker 2 Also, we don't know who's going to retire this year. That's going to make a difference: is like what other Hall of Famers is he going to be running up against?

Speaker 2 By the way, I want to put this out there: Lorenzo Neal, eligible for the Hall of Fame, go vote for Lorenzo Neal right now. It's been like 10, 15 years since we've had a real fullback get in.

Speaker 2 Lorenzo Neal should fucking be in the Hall of Fame. We need to make it happen.
I want him in the Hall of Fame. I want to get that out there.
But also,

Speaker 2 it depends on who retires this year.

Speaker 1 If Peyton Manning had any

Speaker 1 semblance of the moment, he would come back for this year year just so that he could cuck his brother one last time.

Speaker 2 Are they going together?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Archie would definitely make that happen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Who would speak last?

Speaker 1 They should speak simultaneously. No, who would speak last?

Speaker 1 Maybe Cooper just does his bits, his funny little bits.

Speaker 2 Intros both of them.

Speaker 1 Rob Riggle and Cooper up there.

Speaker 2 So assuming Eli doesn't retire, because there's a chance that he doesn't retire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there is a chance.

Speaker 1 And also, I love this. Every team.

Speaker 1 I've seen this a lot on Twitter, and I've been throwing it in as a joke, but I think there are actually some people who think that Eli Manning would help their team right now.

Speaker 1 There are probably a couple teams who have those people watched football.

Speaker 2 There are a couple teams.

Speaker 2 Have you seen the quarterbacks that are in the league right now?

Speaker 2 Eli probably could. Maybe the Jets.
What I'm really looking forward to, though, is for the rest of the year, we're going to get something that we've never gotten from Eli.

Speaker 2 We're going to get Sideline Eli. Yep.
Sideline Eli is going to be a lot of fun to watch. He's going to be, do you think he's going to go full headset?

Speaker 2 Or I think he's going to have just the one earpiece in so he can listen to the play calls, or maybe he'll just have like a book on tape of the alphabet.

Speaker 1 You know what the good news is, though? Sideline Eli, still a game-worn jersey.

Speaker 2 That's true. He could still sell that jersey.
Keep that merch going. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Still get that going.

Speaker 2 I want Eli to be the guy that's sending in the signals from above. You know how they have like one guy doing the fake signals and one guy doing the real one?

Speaker 2 I want to see what Eli would do if you said, okay, do a fake signal out there for this play.

Speaker 2 He'd just do the fake, I got your thumb. My thumb's off.

Speaker 1 Oh, took your nose. Rubbing my belly.
He pulls a quarter out of his his ear.

Speaker 2 Rubbing my belly.

Speaker 1 And tapping my head at the same time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I'm excited to see what he does, but I actually think

Speaker 1 he's going to play again this year. Dando Jones is going to get hurt, and Eli May is going to come in and win the Giants a meaningless game.

Speaker 2 Week six fucks him against the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Oh, so here's what Hank.

Speaker 3 You know, I said there's going to have one meaningless random loss in midseason. Like, once I saw that, that was a good time.

Speaker 1 Is there 18-1 proclamation that means they're going to lose the Super Bowl? Nope. They're going to lose a regular season game.
We should revisit, by the way, Monday. People were correcting us.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 People were correcting us.

Speaker 1 You know what I talked about?

Speaker 1 Sucking in Miami? I thought you guys were stadium.

Speaker 3 When I listened to it back, I was like, oh, that was dumb. And then I was like, I thought you guys were.

Speaker 1 No, I thought you were going to be in the middle of the day. Oh, yeah, no, we're doing it today.
Yeah, we knew it. We knew it.
It was a bit.

Speaker 2 Kaskowski sucks in Miami. The Super Bowl, unfortunately, is where? In Miami.
That's tough. That's really tough.
But if I'm the Patriots,

Speaker 3 you know we're not going to even let it get close to a field goal PFF. You're right, we're not.

Speaker 1 You know, we're just going to run through the entire fact.

Speaker 2 As a big Patriots fan, I think that we should trade for Eli Manning and just stash him so that no other team can get him because he's the one guy that's proven that he can beat an undefeated Patriots team in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 So take that off the board entirely.

Speaker 1 So the Eli, so the Eli conversation, to put a bow on it, I think the greatest thing Eli Manning ever did was have Archie Manning as a father and be really nice to the New York media.

Speaker 1 Because he actually should go in the Hall of Fame first ballot just for being so good with the New York media.

Speaker 2 What if he gets up into the booth after he retires and he's really fucking good? Like, surprise. What if he shocks the world? No.
It's like, wow,

Speaker 2 Eli was the one with the personality.

Speaker 1 No. Not Cooper.
Weird.

Speaker 1 No, he can't. If he was up in the booth, I don't know.

Speaker 2 That would be incredible, wouldn't it? Yeah. I just give him a shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just give him a shot. Also, I saw the Patriots, actually, their left tackle is out for a while.
He just got his foot hurt. So I don't know.
Marshall Newhouse is on the team now.

Speaker 2 He might step in there. Yeah.
Trade for Trent Williams.

Speaker 1 Newhouse played this league. He started on Sunday.

Speaker 3 He started on Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So here's what I'm saying:

Speaker 2 there's a big this league thing going on right now around the NFL.

Speaker 2 We haven't heard that much of this league from Trent Williams, even though he's arguably just as good, if not as young, as Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 2 But he's just, there's like a top three left tackle out there that's just waiting to be picked up by a team. The Patriots, it would make sense for him.

Speaker 1 Everyone's trading first-round picks. The Steelers traded a first-round pick for Minka Fitzpatrick, which I actually love, by the way.
Yeah, I don't mind that too.

Speaker 1 People were like, well, the Steelers, this is going to be a top 10 pick they traded. You're trading for a guy who has just drafted 11 and you have tape on him.

Speaker 2 I was going to say I just like it because now I don't have to guess which Fitzpatrick is which when I see the back of their jersey. It's like, is that Ryan Fitzpatrick? Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, that's Minka playing defense and running fast.

Speaker 1 Speaking of quarterbacks, we should probably talk about the Jets. So the Jets have no quarterback,

Speaker 1 and that was a terrible Monday night football game. Who fall, though? I still don't know if the Browns are good.

Speaker 2 I think they are. I think the Browns Browns are pretty good.

Speaker 1 They should have won that game by 100.

Speaker 2 It was on the road against a team that was coached by Greg Williams, who does not coach dirty. Nope.
He'd like to make that clear. Never.

Speaker 2 They looked okay. They had a good balance.
Odell Beckham's fucking awesome, even though he wore the wrong color tint on his visor. And they took him out.

Speaker 2 I was actually kind of happy because I had the under, so that field goal really helped me out on that one. But yeah, I think the Browns are really good.

Speaker 2 Baker Mayfield, he takes a lot of chances because

Speaker 2 he's very good. Let's get the gunslinger thing going on.

Speaker 1 Gunslinger.

Speaker 2 He takes a lot of chances, and sometimes they don't pay out for him.

Speaker 1 Okay, let me throw out some names, though, for the Jets quarterback, because Sam Darnold, who knows how long. Like, that was so Jets to have the same.
Was that fake, by the way, the mono-nuclear?

Speaker 1 No, that actually happened. So the picture, the graphic of Sam Darnold pointing at you being like, yeah, I'm the fucking man.

Speaker 2 I want to make out with you.

Speaker 1 Out indefinitely, mono. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I want to know how it's possible, real quick, how nobody else on the Jets got mono. Don't you

Speaker 1 kiss anyone?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but in a football locker room, don't you

Speaker 2 share water bottles sometimes? You're in close contact.

Speaker 1 It's true. Maybe that's Le'Veon Bell, but he's always had mono.

Speaker 2 That's why he runs like that. I was saying, yeah, you get very lethargic in approaching the line of scrimmage.
But, like, seriously, you're around these guys all the time.

Speaker 2 I assume that, I mean, the old Seahawks used to share girlfriends, Golden Tate, Percy Harvin.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 And they played pretty well. Whoa.

Speaker 1 So the Jets quarterback situation. Trevor Simeon comes in electric, by the way.
Just a guy who it was reminiscent shades of Kirk Cousins and Andy Dalton giving his pregame warm-up speech.

Speaker 1 Like why they decided he was the guy to mic up, I do not know, but I'm happy they did that because

Speaker 1 I fell asleep listening to Trevor Simeon speak before the game. But let me throw out a couple names.
Tell me your excitement look. Okay.
Let's start with.

Speaker 2 Am I going ball scale here?

Speaker 1 Ball scale. Okay, ball scale.
The guy right down the hallway, Eli Manning.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Two and a half balls. Two and a half balls.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you can get it done at that stadium.

Speaker 1 We talked about it on Monday. Adam Gace, Jay Cutler.
Five balls. Five balls.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Now this one, unfortunately, you just blew your wad because I got some guys that you're going to be more excited about.

Speaker 2 If you say Tebow. Tebow.
Tim Tebow. That's an obvious five balls.

Speaker 1 The Jets, and then my last one.

Speaker 2 I would want Tim Tebow to come back and play if he did it for the love of the sport and the love of the franchise. He gets paid $0.

Speaker 1 There's too much selfishness in in this league zero dollars against a cap the last one i had was michael vick but the jets are in that spot where their season's over greeny even lost it on get up i don't know if you saw he lost how many quarterbacks michael vick really yes how many quarterbacks with kissing diseases do we need on that roster right now i mean let's just do it let's have michael vick on there or colin kaepernick but the point is the jets season is over luke falk is not going to be the guy i would assume he doesn't look bad i would assume he's not going to be Washington State is slowly taking over the NFL.

Speaker 1 All right. I would assume maybe Ryan Leaf, throw him on there.

Speaker 2 I'm saying, like, if the quarterback position to Washington State is like defensive backs to Texas, which is DBU, as we all know.

Speaker 1 Here's what I really wish, though. A team would just say, this season is fucked.
We're fucked. Let's at least give the fans something to have fun with.
Yep. Tim Tebow is not a quarterback of the NFL.

Speaker 2 You never know.

Speaker 1 Let's just make him one for five weeks.

Speaker 2 You never know. I mean, That's exactly what I was saying about the Mets and Thibault.
Colin about, yeah, obviously he's not going to get the job done, but he'd be fun to watch.

Speaker 2 Colin Kaepernick would be interesting.

Speaker 2 Leroy reported today that Colin Kaepernick and his family landed at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey this afternoon.

Speaker 2 Now, full disclosure, it's probably because they were just accepting an award for their nights.

Speaker 1 Joey Murray was playing games.

Speaker 2 No, he reported the news.

Speaker 2 Playing games. He wasn't saying one way or the other that he was signing with the Jets or the Giants.

Speaker 2 It would be the most NFL thing of all time if the Jets signed Colin Kaepernick after all this time and then they just threw him to the Wolves against the Patriots on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Just sign someone. Sign someone.
Let's have some fun. Sam Darnold will be back in six to eight weeks.
I don't even know if you want him back because the season will be long gone by then.

Speaker 1 Jamal Adams already is unfollowing everyone on the Jets.

Speaker 2 This league.

Speaker 1 This league petty wars. But it's just do it.
Just give us something fun to look forward to. If we're going to have to watch the Jets, I'm sure they have some primetime games coming up.

Speaker 1 If we're going to have to watch them, at least give us something fun to watch. I agree.

Speaker 2 Although, I don't think that Luke Falk is bad.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's good. Here's

Speaker 2 some saber metrics, some connected dots for you on this one. Okay, the first person I saw tweet about this.
There have been some others that have jumped on it too, but it was Johnny Mafe.

Speaker 2 I think that's how you pronounce his name. There are a lot of similarities between Luke Falk and TB12.
Luke Falk took over for injured Jets quarterback in week two of his second season.

Speaker 2 He was also the 199th pick in the draft.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
So this is probably going to happen.

Speaker 3 Continue?

Speaker 2 They're both 6'4, 6'5, and weigh like 225 pounds.

Speaker 1 Continue?

Speaker 2 That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 That's all they got. Yeah.
So watch out.

Speaker 1 Maybe a new dynasty has started for the New York Jets.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Don't throw

Speaker 3 first year coach for the Jets.

Speaker 2 Don't yes. Second year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 I guess Belchecks. Belichick was second year.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Second team.

Speaker 3 Second year as a head coach.

Speaker 2 No, second team as a head coach.

Speaker 1 Second team as a head coach. He's coached the Dolphins beforehand.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, don't discount Luke Falk just yet.

Speaker 1 By the way, Adam Gase is the perfect case of like, just get yourself around someone who's really good at their job once in your career, and you're set. He was around Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 They broke all the records. And now everyone since that point has been like, Adam Gace, kind of nice.

Speaker 2 Rub some of that magic off.

Speaker 1 Kind of nice.

Speaker 1 Just if you could, if you could take any tip, any life advice tip, just find your way to be close to greatness for a brief period of time, and everyone will think that you had something to do with that greatness.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. That's a great life accurate.
And also be completely average for 15 years. Yeah, that's it.
And you'll get into a haul of it. That too.

Speaker 1 All right. So let's do.
You had something else?

Speaker 2 We're going to talk about Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 1 Well, let's do Hot Seat, Cool Throne. Okay.
We got some stuff with that. Hot Seat, Cool Throne.

Speaker 3 My hot seat, I got a few. Let me just pull up my computer real quick.
My hot seat is Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 1 Oh, I had him too. You did? Yeah, well, I had him.
Yeah, yeah. I had him for having God as his agent.

Speaker 3 Go ahead. God's his agent?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Call God.

Speaker 1 God and his agent. He

Speaker 3 called his own press conference, which I didn't even really know players could just do, and that the teams would just let him call their own press conference.

Speaker 1 Kind of a wild move talking about he demanded a trade.

Speaker 3 He talked about the whole thing. And Doug Marone's going to beat him up because he is from the same dad.
Diane Erasini reported this. Said, Doug Marone went to high school with my uncles and dad.

Speaker 3 They're all from the same neighborhood in the Bronx. I suggest avoiding confrontation with him at all costs.

Speaker 1 Forget about it. Listen, listen, I'm 55-year-old Doug Marone versus.

Speaker 2 I got to back up my girl Diane on this one because her dad has seen Doug Marone get into fights before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's still an all-time

Speaker 1 fighter. Against all-world athletes.

Speaker 1 Jalen Ramsey is in the peak of his profession and a pretty fucking strong, tough dude. I think I'd take my.
Listen, I love Doug Marone. He's a big guy.

Speaker 1 I think I'd take Jalen Ramsey in that fight.

Speaker 2 Well, it depends how fired up he is. Like, did Jalen Ramsey call him Fredo on the sideline? Because if so, that can just light a fuse in somebody.

Speaker 1 I do like it that, like, hey, he's from the Bronx or wherever, Queens, so he could definitely beat up this guy who's like 24 years old and at the peak of his power.

Speaker 2 If Diana reports it, it's true. Everybody from the Bronx can beat the shit out of Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was, Diana Rossini actually did like a My Dad Stronger Than Your Dad tweet.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I believe it. But in full seriousness.

Speaker 1 So Jalen Ramsey's agent is God. Yes.
He said, God and my agent will figure it out. So I'd have to think they're in cahoots.
That's a pretty powerful duo. It is.

Speaker 1 Have your agent and God working on your trade request.

Speaker 2 So, wait, so where is he going to go? Are there any rumors?

Speaker 1 I think he's going to stay with Jackson.

Speaker 2 It's 5.30 right now. So

Speaker 2 something might happen later on tonight after we record this. I want to see him in Thursday night's game.
I want to see him play. He will play in Thursday night's game.
I'm going to put a guarantee.

Speaker 1 Color if he gets traded? Yeah. Because he'll get traded to the Titans.
That'd be amazing. That would be amazing.
Walk down the lock. Walk down the hallway.

Speaker 1 No, I think the Jaguars would be crazy to trade him. Crazy.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's really, really good.

Speaker 1 Really, really good.

Speaker 2 And they're asking for two first-round picks for him.

Speaker 1 As Pete Prisco said, just pop in the tape from Sunday and you'll know why they're not going to trade him.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 1 Pete Prisco, also the block king of Twitter.

Speaker 2 Also, Pete, the all-22 doesn't come out until Tuesday. So you haven't popped in the tape yet.

Speaker 1 Pete did a block on someone and wrote a quote treat and then said, oh, and P.S., Sia. Oh, yeah, he's a king of Sia.

Speaker 1 You're out of here. He's fucking Joe West picking people out of the game.

Speaker 3 My other hot seat is Lizzo.

Speaker 1 She's been canceled.

Speaker 3 Cancer Coulter is hot in the streets these days.

Speaker 3 She's the latest victim.

Speaker 3 She ordered postmates the other night, and apparently the postmate delivery person stole her order, and she proceeded to go online, screenshotted a picture of the delivery driver and her name and her picture and everything.

Speaker 3 Was like, yo, fuck this person. They stole my order.
And people are mad at her for snitching, I guess.

Speaker 2 Docks them.

Speaker 3 So she's been canceled for that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I think that as a postmates driver, you should be allowed to steal some stuff occasionally.

Speaker 3 Depending on that, there's got to be like one restaurant where you're like, all right, if this order from this place comes through, like, I'm taking that for myself.

Speaker 2 It's really a victimless crime. But when you order things to go or for pickup or delivery,

Speaker 2 99% of the time, something about your order is getting fucked up. And if you work for postmates, you know how easy it is? You can just get a job.
Like, you can go work for another delivery service.

Speaker 2 If it's a huge order and you just steal like $250 worth of food, worth it.

Speaker 1 now I have a question Lizzo I don't know who that is who is she she's a hundred percent that bitch yeah describe her what does she look like she's curvy she plays the flute curvy yeah she twerks great twerker curvy yeah okay she plays the flute if as

Speaker 1 she's an electric performer as a fellow curvy person it's really a you never want to tweet about your food not being there but as a fellow curvy person how mad would you be if your food got oh very mad but i wouldn't take it to twitter because i feel like you're just setting yourself up to get to get dunked on.

Speaker 2 Nobody would steal a food order from a skinny person.

Speaker 1 Right, but it's just.

Speaker 2 What are you going to steal?

Speaker 1 A salad? To be like, hey, I ordered this food and didn't want to get off my couch and now I'm complaining on Twitter feels like a cell phone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know what? I say, well, she apologized for it too, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, good. So she's back.
So she's back, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 keep her in the canceled pod.

Speaker 2 On behalf of part of my take, we officially forgive Lizzo.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Hank's got a half vote saying no.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see her.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see her execute. I want to know what the order was.
Yeah, I'd like to see her execute a few post-made orders without any incidents. It depends on what you're doing.

Speaker 2 So now you're blaming her for getting her food stolen.

Speaker 1 No, I'm blaming her for complaining online about it because that's a dickhead thing to do.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, you are the airport king

Speaker 1 of mocking people who complain online about airports.

Speaker 3 And my cool throne is anyone who's bought stock in Larry 2.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. He's due for a huge week this week.
Oh, no. Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 And there's only a couple more weeks to buy stock. So if you have bought stock already, congratulations.
You're a smart person. And if you haven't bought stock, he's due now this week.

Speaker 3 So get on while the train is hot.

Speaker 1 Right. And he's going to go on fire.

Speaker 1 Like statistically, he's statistically due. I want to say what his record is.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at his chart right now.

Speaker 1 2-3 last. Okay.
All right. 2-3 is not bad.

Speaker 2 You can map out charts on stocks and see when they're about to bounce or fall down. I've got a very good feeling that Larry's about to bounce back this week.

Speaker 3 Look at the chart.

Speaker 1 Okay, so buy your Larry shirts.

Speaker 3 He comes with a stock certificate.

Speaker 1 You own a goldfish.

Speaker 3 But only for two more weeks.

Speaker 1 You can speak out as a goldfish owner.

Speaker 2 Yes. Okay, PFT, what do you got? My hot seat is laboratories.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Across the globe,

Speaker 2 mostly just in Australia and in Russia. First of all, there was an Australian lab.

Speaker 2 There was a massive semen explosion after a blaze hit a bull artificial insemination laboratory, and firefighters were forced to dodge the projectiles being shot out from the bull semen lab.

Speaker 2 This feels like a fake story. It was, hey, listen, it was a news week.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I know I'm not checked there. I'm not saying you didn't make it up.
I'm saying that I always am like Australia, you said? Yeah. Australia feels like they haven't been on the map for a while.

Speaker 1 Why not make up a fake bullcomb story? I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, a Chilean bull semen factory exploded, just sending spewage everywhere because there was cow sperm. Okay.
That's got to be pretty nasty as a firefighter. I would say so.
Mukaki.

Speaker 2 I would say so.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nice.
Has 1.7 balls.

Speaker 3 It's like Chernobyl, though, if you get hit by it, then you're.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 You think like bull semen is radioactive?

Speaker 3 I feel like if you're a firefighter going to a laboratory where after watching Chernobyl, I feel like that's just like kind of like don't pick up the rocks.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Don't touch the semen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think if there's like bull semen just spraying into the air, that just means that the council has elected a new micro for the next season of dirty Jobs.

Speaker 2 The other lab that exploded was in Russia. There was a smallpox explosion.
So a laboratory that had smallpox in it, for some reason, we still keep that stored in a lab somewhere. That exploded.

Speaker 2 So I'm sure that's fine. Probably not a big deal.
No. Good thing you got your kid vaccinated.
Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 Good thing we made him. Yes, we did.
The internet made him.

Speaker 2 Yes, the internet made your kid get vaccinated. And my other hot seat is Odell Beckham.

Speaker 2 Because it turns out that the watch that he was wearing pregame, you remember a lot of people priced it out as being like a $2 million watch?

Speaker 1 Well, according to Darren Revelle, who's tweeted a vagina picture last night that was true.

Speaker 1 I was very upset.

Speaker 2 But he's an expert in spotting phonies because he has many mirrors.

Speaker 2 He identified it as being a fake watch and a very cheap knockoff watch at that, like just maybe a couple hundred bucks. Damn.
So

Speaker 1 come on, Odell.

Speaker 2 Got to know better than that.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that by Odell because everyone's flipping out about how he's warming up in this watch and it's all fake.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would be nice, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a funny, like, he should smash it on purpose. He should have smashed it on purpose till Ravel ruined the joke and then tweeted out the vagina.

Speaker 2 The vagina, explain that real sick.

Speaker 1 So, Ravel tweeted out a picture, like, you think the Jet season's bad?

Speaker 1 Look at the fans not paying attention. And it was a picture of a guy looking at a picture of what looked like an

Speaker 1 anatomy chart of a vagina. It wasn't even a flesh and blood vagina.
It was a drawing of a vagina. And, of course, Ravel tweeted it out and scarred everyone.
And I would assume what we're going to say.

Speaker 2 Violated Twitter's terms of service.

Speaker 1 Ravel's definitely seen more drawings of vaginas than actual vaginas. I was, I did

Speaker 3 probably too much thinking on why that guy was looking at it/slash texting it because he was sending that to someone else. Do you think he was chirping his buddy?

Speaker 3 That was the only reason I could come up with for like why you would because like you'd Google image vagina and then send it to you.

Speaker 1 There definitely was like the only way, why else would you be

Speaker 3 sending that?

Speaker 1 There was probably some inappropriate Trevor Simeon jokes or something involved in that.

Speaker 2 Oh, about him not being able to

Speaker 1 withstand a broken ankle and like torn everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's probably.

Speaker 1 I think that's probably accurate. That's probably what it was.

Speaker 2 My Cool Throne is D's Nuts jokes. Uh-oh.
Because football guy Nick Saban apparently loves D's nuts jokes. This is like his favorite thing is pulling the D's on people.

Speaker 2 So all you people that say that Nick Sabin doesn't have a sense of humor, he actually does. It's just very specific to only D's nuts jokes.

Speaker 1 He's a big bofa guy too.

Speaker 2 Probably he's going to get around to Bofa and the Imagined Dragons joke in a couple years.

Speaker 1 It's coming at any point.

Speaker 1 Okay, my hot seats is triggered people online because Mike Leach is online and he triggered the OCD community by tweeting out a picture that had like a little like a little fuck-up where it said OCD.

Speaker 1 It said like it was a mit it was a hospital, a school of medicine, and it had everything listed, school like academic affairs, evaluation clinic, and then at the bottom was obsessive-compulsive disorder, and it was just a little off-centered.

Speaker 1 So, he triggered everyone, and he actually got a response from the International OCD Foundation saying OCD is a serious disorder that affects an estimated one in 100 adults.

Speaker 1 It can seem funny to those who aren't affected, but for those who are, it's no laughing matter. We hope you consider deleting and directing your followers to iocdf.org.

Speaker 1 And Mike Leech just said, Warning, I got a couple complaints today on one of my tweets. You read my tweets at your own risk.
Viewer discretion, strongly advised.

Speaker 2 Fuck yes. Mike Leach uses Twitter like your elderly uncle uses Facebook.
Yeah. He's just getting into the meme game recently.

Speaker 1 He's just getting into it and watch out, world. He's going to, as soon as he catches up with like,

Speaker 1 he definitely will be in the political meme wars of 2020. Oh, for sure.
He's going to get it. He's going to throw his hat in that ring.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right, Mike Cool thrown his dog the bounty hunter because he's doing fine. He had a heart attack, I think, but he's fine.
It might have been a broken heart.

Speaker 2 I read he had a medical episode. That's fine.

Speaker 1 He's fine. He has someone tweeting from his account saying that he's fine.
And I have no reason to believe that he isn't fine because he's got to be fine.

Speaker 2 What if this was a situation like, I think it was Woodrow Wilson had a stroke when he was president, and his wife kind of acted like the president for the last six months.

Speaker 2 Maybe I'm just describing the movie Dave. Dave, yeah.

Speaker 2 But I'm pretty sure there was a president where his wife just pretended he was still alive. It was like, oh, he can't come out now for the last maybe year or so of his presidency.

Speaker 2 What if Dog is just incapacitated as a social media manager?

Speaker 1 Would he still tell Iceheads to go with Chrysbra? Yeah, the social media manager.

Speaker 2 That's going to do that. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's fine. He's going to be fine.
Okay, let's get to our interview with Chris Bosch. Hey, what's going on there, pal?

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Speaker 1 And now, Chris Bosch.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, future NBA Hall of Famer. I can say that, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, it's true. It is Chris Bosch.
He's in studio.

Speaker 1 I don't even know where to start because doing some research. Obviously, I know your basketball career.
You have about a million interests. Would that be safe to say? Yeah.
You have like music.

Speaker 1 You read. You're writing a book.
Let's actually start there. You're writing a book.
You just told us before the show started, you're writing a book. Yeah.
About. Writing a book.

Speaker 1 It's a working title, but essentially

Speaker 1 it's kind of like

Speaker 1 one of the working title is Letters to a Young Athlete.

Speaker 1 But I want it to translate to everyone pretty much. You're like cucking the entire Players Tribune business model.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 Have you ever thought about doing it LeBron James style and doing letters from a young athlete to his future self about his past self, like his Instagram posts?

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, I wouldn't try that. It can get, you get into the matrix and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 So, so you're giving advice to young athletes? Are you saying, like, what you learned?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's kind of like lessons that I learned in sports, pretty much.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's been so many things that's been valuable that I've used in both aspects on and off the court.

Speaker 1 You know, so I figure if I could take that, take those lessons and then take, you know, my favorite stories and stuff like that, and, you know, just kind of let people in on what

Speaker 1 changed for me,

Speaker 1 things that happened for me, and things that I used, tools that I used, and it really worked.

Speaker 1 Okay, so lesson for a young athlete, should they have a burner account or not? No. No,

Speaker 2 multiple burner accounts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you know what? See, here's the problem. Now, if you have a burner account, what happens? You might slip off.
You can't get a cause.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but who knows how many people don't get caught?

Speaker 1 Or you might not, and it looks like you have like your number one fan that's very vocal in your defense all the time. Oh, yeah, but that's like making another personality, right?

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, you can't be two people, right? You know what I mean? You can't be just, you know, just like, oh, yeah, I got the burner account, and I'm you do.

Speaker 1 Now, with full disclosure, I used to do that when I was in high school. I was in the chat room.
You had the burner account and then like Chris Bosch is a fan of the future.

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't even a burner account. It wasn't cool to put your real name on the internet back.
Right. You know, so I was, it was this

Speaker 1 website called TexasHoops.com. I used to go on it when I was

Speaker 1 in high school. I'd be in the chat room like, you're wrong.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't pass more.

Speaker 1 Like, what do you mean? We're really good. It's dominating.
You know, trying to defend our case.

Speaker 1 That's normal, though. I feel like that's a normal reaction.

Speaker 2 At least for high schoolers. I know in Texas sports in particular, it's almost a professional sport the second you step foot into high school.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 And so there are people talking about you like they're professional analysts. And so for somebody who's, you know, 15 to 18 years old, it's natural, I think, to stand up for yourself.

Speaker 2 But then at some point, you have to learn,

Speaker 2 I can't read everything that's being written about me. At what point did that occur to you, or did it ever occur to you?

Speaker 1 Did you see?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it occurred to me once we got to Miami.

Speaker 1 Once I made the decision to go to Miami,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 it changed. Everything changed.

Speaker 1 I used to always be on Twitter and always, back when, like, I think what Twitter came out in 2006, and I forgot when I made my account, but it was like right around 2007, 2008.

Speaker 1 So I was always, you know, on social media, but once I start reading the comments and stuff, I made that mistake one, because it wasn't happening.

Speaker 1 Everything was positive before that because everybody wanted me to go to the play for their team. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, so then after, you know, I made my choice, people let me know that they did not like it. And then, you know, you get all the other stuff on top of that.
So

Speaker 1 one day I just had like a bad day reading and I'm like, man, that really messed up my day i'm really upset what am i doing yeah you know just reading words on the screen that's in that's insanity to me so i just stopped you know and you see it now it's a kind of a storyline that's going on in the nba now where a lot of guys are you know adam silver came out and said that These guys that are millionaires, young athletes, have the whole world at their fingertips, are actually incredibly lonely

Speaker 1 because they feel isolated, because they can't go out in public, because they're spending their days on Twitter and reading the negative stuff.

Speaker 1 Do you think that that's overblown, or you see how that's actually a true thing going on? I can see how

Speaker 1 people can be like that. I mean, you know, even for me, if I go outside, everybody wants to take a picture.
Right. You know, so that alone is something that I have to mentally be ready for.

Speaker 1 It's exhausting. Yeah, it's exhausting a little bit.
And, you know, people want to talk to you. And rightfully so.
Everybody has a camera. Of course, everybody wants a picture.

Speaker 1 But it's just another added thing. You know, on top of that, it's more popular than ever.
It's more money than ever in the league. So it's kind of,

Speaker 1 you know, pick your poison. Right.
You know, but I think it's just learning to cope with things and being okay with that. And sometimes saying no.
Like, I don't feel like taking a picture right now.

Speaker 1 Right. You know, and I want to go about my day and enjoy my day.
Right. You know, and learning how to.
cope with that and go out in public and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So when you got off Twitter, that was in your mind. I didn't get off.
I just like, I stopped reading the comments and, you know, I kind of fell off it for a while. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that happened in Miami. Do you think it was because you guys were winning and kind of had a big target on your back?

Speaker 1 We hadn't even played yet. Oh, well,

Speaker 1 had you done the championship celebration?

Speaker 1 No, the name was one before we had a chance. We didn't have the championship celebration until we won a championship.
No, right, no, no, we haven't done the one on the channel.

Speaker 1 Now, did we have a celebration? When you won't, yeah, you know, we had a couple celebrations. Was that actually?

Speaker 1 After that happened, did anyone like, I would imagine after you get in the hallway, you're like, was that kind of weird? We just we just celebrated a championship when we just signed?

Speaker 1 No, we weren't celebrating a championship. Let me literally

Speaker 1 say that

Speaker 1 I love talking about this because it's so interesting because like we got blamed so much for it. It's like man, I'm not an event planner.
Right. What the hell do you think?

Speaker 1 I'm just gonna like sign a contract, you know.

Speaker 1 Bring my whole family out to Miami and then orchestrate this big thing. That's what I'm saying.
We came there and that was there. People like were there for us.

Speaker 2 I thought you were on stage before, like positioning the smoke machine.

Speaker 1 And the lights were hitting you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're like, no, I need two.

Speaker 1 I need one on each side to get cross-seam.

Speaker 1 But did anyone say to LeBron, like, yo, did you just say we're going to win seven?

Speaker 1 That part, you know what? Like,

Speaker 1 yo, I think we just, I think we got a little ahead of ourselves. That's one of those things to where you're just, everybody's so happy and you're just like, yeah, yeah, let's just go for it.

Speaker 1 You're not thinking about what everybody else is going to think about. Right.
You know, you're just, everybody's happy. Right, right.
That was, I mean, it was more so in of intent.

Speaker 1 I would quit Twitter, too, if I was part of that championship celebration.

Speaker 1 That's it, that's a good championship before the season.

Speaker 2 That's a good watermark to stop reading the comments online.

Speaker 1 It was at that point. Yeah, that was about, I think, probably that next day.
Like, oh, you know, it was funny because we were in our bubble. About two days later,

Speaker 1 you know, you start watching TV. It's like, oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. See what the rest of the world sees.
The heat can win 75 games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and just the reaction. You know, there was very strong reactions across the league.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think if you're a player on another team and you see that, that absolutely, you talk about bulletin board material.

Speaker 1 Drives you.

Speaker 2 They're like, yeah, they're already counting this. They're discounting us out already before they've even played a game together.

Speaker 1 Can't wait. They're not even that good.

Speaker 1 There's also the element that I'm always curious about of playing with LeBron, I feel like, brings added pressure to everyone around him because he is such a star.

Speaker 1 And there's always so much attention on him. Did you feel that right away? Yeah, but it was like gas on the fire fire after that one.

Speaker 1 It was already a thing, and then it was just something totally trans, I mean, it transcended and transformed a bunch of things, you know, more than what I thought.

Speaker 1 But, you know, the championship pressure,

Speaker 1 I wanted to win a championship.

Speaker 1 That's what we were all there for. So that was kind of, we knew what we were getting ourselves into, kind of, kind of, until we experienced it.
And then, you know,

Speaker 1 that was really, you know, the brunt of it, man. We didn't,

Speaker 1 we were just kind of in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, you gotta, you gotta swim now, and we have to jail together as a team and figure out how to navigate, you know, trying to win in the league.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, you understand, okay, Michael Jordan and those guys, you just think it's just watching the game and watch TV. It's so much more than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Would you like to apologize for ruining the NBA by creating super teams?

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, you know, you're a basketball fan, I'm sure. Yep.

Speaker 1 You know, super teams have always been a part of the league. Right.
You know, in the 80s, Showtime, the Lakers, Robert Parrish, Larry Bird,

Speaker 1 you know, Kevin McHill.

Speaker 1 You know, we could go on and on. The Lakers, they had, I always tell people, like, the Lakers had Ron Harper.
Ron Harper won five championships. They don't even mention Ron Harper.

Speaker 1 They had Ron Harper, Robert Ory, both of them multiple championships between them.

Speaker 1 Ron Harper and Robert and Michael Jordan were in like, you know, the same same conversation in the league when they just got there. You know, so it's always been a part of the league.

Speaker 2 It is funny to me, though, how people point at that Heat team, and they act like it's the first time that three really good basketball players wanted to play basketball with each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just in the way of the business.

Speaker 1 It was the decision by LeBron. It was the going from Cleveland to Miami, and

Speaker 1 it felt very... orchestrated beforehand.
I know you guys have talked about it, but how far in advance did you know you three were going to go somewhere together?

Speaker 1 It didn't happen too far in advance because he still had, you know, to a decision to make.

Speaker 1 We knew that

Speaker 1 Miami had the cap space to do something like that.

Speaker 1 Every, I don't think, did anybody else? I think Miami and New York. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a Bulls fan. Chicago, you guys have said in retrospect that you were thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I always just assume no one ever thinks about signing as a free agent to the Bulls because we've never gotten them.

Speaker 1 It was very, very close. You were actually close? No way.
Yeah, man, look, they had

Speaker 1 Joe Kim,

Speaker 1 young Derrick Rose, which he won MVP that year. Yep.
Lou Aldang. Yep.

Speaker 1 Kirk Heinrich. Kirk Heinrich.

Speaker 1 It had a side, I mean, those are solid pieces. And I mean, I think Omer Ashik too and the lynch mob was still a little bigger back then.
So, yeah, it was a... And then.

Speaker 1 And then we got Carlos Spoozer because you went to Miami. Yeah, and then the thing was two of three.
Their thing was two of three. Got it.

Speaker 1 So what was the pitch like for everyone else? Like, I've read some of the stories. People just show up and they'd show you Photoshopped into their jersey.
Yeah, they had iPads. That was the thing.

Speaker 1 Everybody had an iPad with an app. Is that what the Bulls did? Yeah, everybody did it.
Of course, they fucking did.

Speaker 1 And it probably was a shitty, like, like, you'd be like, wait, I can see my Raptors jersey underneath that. Nah, and then, like, I came in the

Speaker 1 arena.

Speaker 1 He had the thing up and

Speaker 1 my name. It's a crazy thing because Mike Jordan played

Speaker 1 the house that Michael built.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, my name is up there. It's like, wow, this is crazy.
So, and then what was Pat Riley, I would imagine, because you went there,

Speaker 1 had a little bit of a different, he didn't take out the iPad. No, he didn't take out an iPad.
What did he do? I don't believe, yeah, I didn't get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, this drives me insane that they're like, they honestly thought, like, hey, this will be cool.

Speaker 1 No one ever sees a Photoshop of you in a different jersey. So what did Pat Riley do instead?

Speaker 1 Talk. And that's fine.
God damn it.

Speaker 2 Took you out for a nice steak dinner process.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no, we didn't have a steak dinner. It was, you know, it was the whole thing and the free agency thing.
So it was like meetings. So we had them.
We had all the meetings at one time. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 I know. The steak dinner was after.
Oh, it was afterwards.

Speaker 2 I'd imagine a couple nice bottles of red wine. Oh, for sure.
Was LeBron already into the Sheesh game, the wine game back then?

Speaker 1 No, I don't believe so.

Speaker 1 Definitely not as heavy as he is now. You think it's a problem?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 He was walking on the bench one game.

Speaker 2 He's walking into the games with full glasses of wine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't like wine?

Speaker 2 No, I enjoy wine, not while I'm on the job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not while you're on the job. No, no, we're just trying to work.
I'm just saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 I read that you're a big Harry Potter guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you were to put you, LeBron, and D. Wade into houses in in Harry Potter, how would you do that?

Speaker 1 That's an interesting question.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 How Slytherin is that one? Yeah. Man, you know,

Speaker 2 yeah, LeBron is Slytherin.

Speaker 1 Yeah, LeBron is Slytherin. But he's the good Slytherin.
You know, not the like the.

Speaker 1 We'll decide. Yeah, the dark.
He said Slyly. Okay, you guys are going to decide that one.

Speaker 1 I'm Gryffindor. That's obvious.
Obviously.

Speaker 1 And man, you know, they don't give the other two houses enough love, man.

Speaker 1 Ravenclaw and

Speaker 1 Hufflepuff. Hufflepuff.
Yeah, they don't even give them any love. Yeah,

Speaker 1 D-Wade.

Speaker 2 Wait, which one is Hufflepuff?

Speaker 2 D-Wade. D-Wade.

Speaker 1 You think so?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Full disclosure, I've never read Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 No. But you knew.
No, this is just clickbait. I'm just trying to get people to click on this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but okay, you're looking on the internet right now, so you knew the houses, or are you just like a closet Harry Potter fan?

Speaker 2 No, I know all about the sorting hat.

Speaker 1 And then what's Hazlam? Hazm's the last one.

Speaker 1 He's got to be UD? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Shoot, whatever the tough ones are.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, yeah, he is a tough dude. Yeah.

Speaker 2 One thing that I always liked about you,

Speaker 2 you were never afraid to put your sense of humor out there a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember seeing you do that car commercial, the used car commercial, where you're wearing the giant cowboy hat.

Speaker 2 At first, I was like, what the fuck is this guy doing?

Speaker 1 I was like, this is weird, but it was good.

Speaker 1 Was it weird? Yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 1 It was kind of weird. It was.

Speaker 2 It was definitely off the beaten path for an NBA star at the time to do something like that. I think now people try and try to produce comedy videos, but a lot of times it's unnatural.

Speaker 2 And when you did it, it was like, this guy's just really funny.

Speaker 2 When you were sitting down, did you actually decide to write that? Or how did that whole used car thing come about?

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I've told people this story a bunch of times. So, pretty much, like, that was the first year

Speaker 1 the big three in Boston got together.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 LeBron and Kevin Garnett were hammering me in all-star votes. And I knew I wasn't going to win, but I had started one time and I wanted to do it again.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I just wanted to make it look respectable in the numbers. This is like, you know, LeBron, 1.6.
Kevin Garnett, 1.2.

Speaker 1 You know, Bosch, 400. I'm like, damn, I got to get that number up.
And so I was like, man, I always loved the internet.

Speaker 1 Always, I've always been doing this my whole life you know pretty much you code like videos you code right kind of you know what coding is i don't even know the concept you know

Speaker 1 but you know looking at that stuff i said all right i'm gonna i'm gonna make a video and put it on youtube just to get my because you can vote online now yeah so i'm gonna get my votes up that'll you i'm gonna figure out some way and so i had one idea which i was gonna be like

Speaker 1 making fun of President Bush at the time, but I said, nah, that's not really gonna be a good one because we're at war and all this stuff and that'll be pretty insensitive so then

Speaker 1 I just was thinking of how I could execute this idea and I was off for a couple days for Christmas that I shot that on Christmas Eve

Speaker 1 and so me and my brother were I was back home I went home for a couple days for Christmas and yeah just wrote it out and said man yeah you know he watched those crappy videos from

Speaker 1 back in the day with the used car salesman and stuff like that and I was trying to you know, yeah, vote for me. And, okay, I got it.
And that's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 That would be traffic to my website.

Speaker 2 It would be great if you did the George Bush one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 Like Boogie Cousins throwing a shoe at you and you ducking the other way.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it was, yeah, it was not the time.

Speaker 1 Everything was very fresh.

Speaker 1 So along the same lines of that question, your comedy and showing your personality, did you create the video bomb? Did you create that?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like after, you know, the press conference, after games on the NBA court, you would, I feel like you were the first guy who did that.

Speaker 1 During NBA games, yeah, or a sporting event, you know, on purpose multiple times, yeah. Yeah, and the only reason I did that was because we were winning so much and it was just a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 And I said, man, you know what? I just watched a lot of TV when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 So I immediately, my mind starts wandering, like, I wonder what the people that are watching this on TV, what would be funny right now?

Speaker 1 And I'm, you know, because I'm like doing an interview and, you know, for the umpteenth time, Dee is right there, Brian is right there. And I'm like, okay,

Speaker 1 I'll just do something. And then they laughed and everybody kept laughing.
So I said, all right, you know, I might as well keep going.

Speaker 1 I had to stop, though, once people said, you know, can I take a picture with you? Yeah, sure. Can you photobomy me? Yeah, I'm not photobyling.
Oh, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 It's over. Yeah, that's too much.
That's too much. It's over.
What about the people who used to say that you looked like the Raptors logo? You want to know what's funny? Yeah.

Speaker 1 People really thought they were cutting deep with that.

Speaker 1 I didn't think so. My high school friends were joking on me like that.
And I had to laugh at that one. Listen, the Raptors logo is a good-looking logo.
It's a great-looking logo.

Speaker 1 That's the person I never saw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like, they used to call me, like, you look like a Velociraptor in high school. They thought it was so funny.
That's cool. Like, Coach K looks like the

Speaker 1 blue devil. He's slowly morphed into the blue devil.

Speaker 1 It's like 101 Dalmatians when the dog owners walk around looking like they're dogs. Like, it's a cool concept.
Yeah. Like, only you can only draft players that look like your logo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. That would be pretty nice.

Speaker 2 I'd much rather that thank look like the Wizards logo or the Hornets logo. Yeah, the Raptors one, if you had to pick one in the NBA East, at least, I feel like that's number one.

Speaker 2 Were you, were you actually, were you pumped up this year for the Raptors in the playoffs? Were you

Speaker 1 absolutely,

Speaker 1 man? You know what?

Speaker 1 I got to see, I got to, I worked

Speaker 1 the pregame stuff with TSN, the Canadian network. And

Speaker 1 I saw a lot of old friends there.

Speaker 1 Some of the same people are still working there, the equipment managers,

Speaker 1 the trainers, you know, bartenders. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the guys running the seats and stuff, you know, the people that help you to your seats. And to see them just, you know,

Speaker 1 have a piece in that was really, really cool. I was so happy for them.
The whole city.

Speaker 1 Do you ever have regrets about, I mean, I think a lot of guys say nowadays, like, they kind of wish they played for a full for the same team their whole entire career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or do you not even think about no,

Speaker 1 yeah, you can't, I couldn't change it, so you know, and things worked out pretty good. Yeah, they did.
I would say they worked out pretty, yeah, it was pretty solid, man.

Speaker 1 So, let's talk about the championships. Yeah, first time you guys go to the finals, uh,

Speaker 1 LeBron has eight points in that one game. I just mentioned that off the top of my head.
I can't even remember why I remember that. What was it like after you guys lose that first one to the Mavs?

Speaker 1 And was was there ever a feeling of

Speaker 1 not despair, but

Speaker 1 you were a very good team. You felt like this was the thing and the super team and all that.
And you fall short against

Speaker 1 kind of a random NBA winner in the Mavs? For sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were very crafty.

Speaker 1 Older team, more savvier than

Speaker 1 we were, and they took advantage of that. So, you know, first of all,

Speaker 1 having to come back, it's embarrassing. You know, it's depressing.

Speaker 1 You find out, you know, you find out why some people don't bounce back. People don't bounce back from that.
You know, it takes a lot to even try to get back on the horse.

Speaker 1 And even if you bounce back, you can just be like, okay, I'm not going to go for the championship. I'll just lay over here in a nice, comfortable part of the league.

Speaker 2 You'll succeed.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And just, you know, slide on out and wave goodbye.
Beyond a yacht,

Speaker 1 no problem. You know what I mean? No problem.
Body's good.

Speaker 1 You know, but

Speaker 1 we realize what it really takes

Speaker 1 and that pain of, you know, dealing with that. Yeah.
And so then you win the next year against,

Speaker 1 that's going to go down as one of the craziest teams that you played in the Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kevin Durant. I don't think people are going to get it.

Speaker 1 They're like, but you beat those guys. You played three MVPs? Yeah.
And you beat them. But they were on the same team.
Yeah, right. Yes.
But you beat them, and you beat them convincingly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that moment, was that the Champagne picture championship?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that was the one. Yeah, I mean, that was a great picture.
All-time picture. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 Kind of me rubbing it in people's faces just a little bit. Yeah, so it must have felt great because you probably, like we talked about earlier, you got all the jokes against you.

Speaker 1 People criticize the heat, criticize LeBron, criticize you, and then you get that last laugh. I mean, that has to be the greatest feeling of all time.
It's awesome, but you know what?

Speaker 1 Like, it's not even, you don't even think about those things. What was amazing to me is what was going through my mind right after.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 length of the season and how much it takes to even, you know, get to that point. You know, and, you know, I've reflected on that stuff.
You don't even think about, oh, I proved him wrong.

Speaker 1 And if you are, then, man, you know, you got some work to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So going into that finals against the thunder, was it more like I'm motivated because I need to prove something to myself?

Speaker 2 Or was it, was there an element element of the haters out there like it's going to be good to drink champagne in their faces and dunk on them after?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. It's just I was born to win an NBA championship.
That's pretty much it. I love that.
I like that. You know what I mean? That's what I was saying.
This is what I did.

Speaker 1 I watched this since I was a kid. I'm a historian of the game.
This is our time. I'm here.
I used to watch this with my dad. Right.
You know what I mean? Pizza parties. You watch the game.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I understood what was at stake with everything. So, like, for me, it was just being happy to

Speaker 1 get that done.

Speaker 2 That's pretty cool just growing up knowing that you're going to win one day and that it happens.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 you must feel like a genius after you do it.

Speaker 1 You're like, I know this is gonna happen along. Yeah, you do, but then it's like, yeah, you know, you're not that much of a genius.

Speaker 1 So, the next one is obviously the rebound to the shot, which can you talk us through that play? And it's an all-time iconic play.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Ray Allen's shot in the corner to save the heat in game six. You're the one who gets the rebound.
If you don't do that, the heat lose and you guys have one championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, a little different.
So were things moving in slow motion or was that just... Yeah, it moved in slow motion once LeBron shot it.
That's how I remember it.

Speaker 1 It's funny because, you know, how you remember things sometimes is not how it really happens.

Speaker 1 So my memory of the whole thing, I remember the play, I remember everything, but the speed is way faster than what I recall. Interesting.

Speaker 1 You know, it felt like a long time to make that decision because I was able to watch the flight of the ball. That's why I was able to make a play on the ball to get the rebound.
You know,

Speaker 1 they both, both Boris Diao and Tony Parker went to LeBron. Right.
So that opened me up free lane to the basket. I didn't have anybody in front of me.
So I could just concentrate on the ball.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, it just felt, you know, it was one of those moments. This is for me.
Right. It was that moment.
It's my ball. And then you instinctively are like, there's Ray.
Yeah. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know,

Speaker 1 I felt contact, and I think it was Manu, and I looked down,

Speaker 1 and he was there, and I looked up, and Ray was looking at me with his hands going back, and I just,

Speaker 1 I can't even tell you why it happened. I'm just happy that it happened.
Yeah, I mean, it's an all-time shot, all-time play. So you just got to always just be in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it also is kind of a microcosm for, I think, your career with the Heat, where you were such an important player, but you probably never got your total due because it was LeBron and D. D-Wade.

Speaker 1 Was it tough to be that third guy and maybe sometimes have people not give you the credit for sacrificing some of your game for them?

Speaker 1 It was tough being in that position, but it's also tough winning a championship. It's tough being the first guy, right? Being the second.
You know, it's just what it is.

Speaker 1 And I just used that experience to really learn about basketball.

Speaker 1 It's like I had to strip myself down all the way and build myself back up to learn how to play basketball, you know, and play off the ball, cutting, you know, being a team player, defense, you know.

Speaker 1 So I learned a big, you know, a more, so much more of a portion in the game and mental toughness, man. Yeah.
You know, that's not going to be right.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I'm sure Spo wanted to help me a bunch of times, but it's like, you know, I can't, it's not much I can do for you. You just have to do this and that.

Speaker 1 And there is an element to the game of figuring out on your own. So, you know,

Speaker 1 I never, I never, that on top of me, never really worrying worrying about what people thought.

Speaker 1 You know, the proof is in the work. It's there.
You know, you can watch every game if you want to nowadays. So, you know,

Speaker 1 I know

Speaker 1 where I am as far as a player

Speaker 1 when I was playing

Speaker 1 my career and everything. So I'm happy about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's always interesting to me because you go from the guy in Toronto to a guy who has to, you know, and a lot of the players in the NBA, they want to be the guy until they have to be the guy.

Speaker 1 And I just thought it was, it's an interesting career arc where you then were able to, your ultimate success was being able to

Speaker 1 kind of take a step back and, like you said, learn different elements of the team. Be one of the guys, right? Yeah.
And, well, you know, and you know, being the guy sometimes isn't as fun, man.

Speaker 1 I would imagine. You know, if the team is struggling, they're going to ask you first.
And not that I would shy away from it or anything, but it's a tough position to be in.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it's like, hey, they're double teaming me. I'm going to make the right decision to, you know, make my team, put my teammates in the position.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, sometimes guys don't play well. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, or your team isn't that good.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 That's one of the things that we love to talk about that in the media is as soon as two good players get together, the first question we have to ask is who's getting the last shot, which doesn't really make sense because I'm sure a lot of that is game plan dependent.

Speaker 2 But when it's like you, D-Wade, and LeBron, was there ever, like, was there a time when Spilester would sit down and be like, okay, we're going to give you the last shot today?

Speaker 2 Or in practice, would he have like three different last shot scenarios for you guys? No. Or was it just understood that it's going to happen a certain way?

Speaker 1 It's understood. I mean, it's like in the flow of the game.
You make those decisions in the flow of the game. Usually if it was tight

Speaker 1 and D was having a good game, it'd be D.

Speaker 1 You know, coming downhill, you know, but then again, you know, it's a good decision, you know, to have, you know, because even though it's hard because,

Speaker 1 you know, you have a bunch of great players that, you know, you can make a play for and will probably win the game if you draw it up right.

Speaker 1 But, you know, it was always LeBron most of the time, you know, because his playmaking ability, and that didn't mean he was going to shoot it. You're going to get a good shot.

Speaker 1 You're going to get a shot at the basket that Brian had in his hands. He, you know, he hit me a bunch of times for late game

Speaker 1 shots. Do you think the Spurs intentionally turned off the AC in that final? Absolutely.
Of course. That was

Speaker 1 game, the cramps game. Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's like the way Red Hour back was known, you know, or if you're in Boston, you know, the

Speaker 1 fire things are come off or whatever. You got to get out the building and everything.
And they said, man, that was that damn red hourback. Right.
I mean, he never denied it, right?

Speaker 1 Right, right, right. But yeah, if I'm them, I'm trying to win.
You're trying to win, right? I cut the, I cut.

Speaker 1 You didn't cramp. No, I didn't cramp.
It was hot, though. It was hot.
It was.

Speaker 1 I knew Brian was going to cramp, though. Realize that.
Yeah, because his muscles are so dense, he cramps

Speaker 1 more.

Speaker 1 Interesting, you know, because he's so big. Yeah.
And so he's always like, you know.

Speaker 2 Drinking wine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, drinking wine.

Speaker 1 He gains weight during games. I still don't understand.

Speaker 2 That's not true.

Speaker 1 I still don't understand how that works. So, like, you know, I knew.

Speaker 1 As it was hot, I said, man, this, you know, some, he might, you know, he might cramp up a little bit. It was crazy in there.
It was very dangerous. I'm glad nobody got hurt for real.
Yes,

Speaker 1 and that the Spurs won.

Speaker 1 Well, you know,

Speaker 1 everybody always says, Do you think if you guys would have won that game that you would have won the series? I said, nah, they dumped us pretty good. And we won game two.
Right.

Speaker 1 And what we were talking about earlier, the ability to come back and be all in.

Speaker 1 I mean, that Spurs team was on a mission after

Speaker 1 Billy Allen show. Yeah, it's just after you get your heart broke that bad.

Speaker 1 And I remember

Speaker 1 we were

Speaker 1 there they're about to win. I'm like,

Speaker 1 we just got hammered. We got to go all the way back home.
At least we got beaten. Well, no, I don't want to get beaten Miami.

Speaker 1 But it's still kind of whack to have to get on the plane after that and go back home. I'm like, man,

Speaker 1 knowing this might be our last time playing together. Yeah.
You know, I looked at Tim, I said, man,

Speaker 1 la last year really sucked, huh? He's like, man, you don't even know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There you go. Fucking grass, bro.
Tim Duncan, I assume. Yeah, so the end of the heat, like uh, you know, LeBron leaving, were you clued in at all? How did that all go down?

Speaker 1 No, it was uh, you know, right before. And did you, did you feel like you were left out? Because I wasn't there, like, Dwayne Wade took a flight with LeBron, yeah, and you weren't invited.

Speaker 1 No, I was in Africa. Oh, okay, there you go.
That's a nice alibi. I was away from it, I was away from the madness.
Were you shocked at all that he left, or did you kind of expect it?

Speaker 1 Um, it got to the point where I knew that it was free agency all over again, and that

Speaker 1 there might be a change. I knew that I got that feeling, you know, so

Speaker 1 that's why I negotiated, you know, I continue to negotiate and stuff like that. I treated it as free agency.
Yeah. You know,

Speaker 1 we can, you know, we always say when guys get traded, it's a business. It's a business, you know, so

Speaker 1 he's going to handle his business. I'm going to handle my business.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, business will be taken care of. Yeah.
And you got a nice, yeah, you actually handled it very well. It worked out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it worked out very well. It worked out.

Speaker 2 Did you ever ask Ray Allen about the tweet?

Speaker 1 What tweet? You know the tweet. You know the tweet.
Oh, that tweet? Nah, nah, nah, nah. You never bust his boss about that? I'm getting there.
Picture me. Picture me.
My tongue.

Speaker 1 No, switching back and forth.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. I don't know.
No Zach said.

Speaker 1 Look, let me tell you something. That could have been.
It's a typo. Did he ever text you like that by accident? What's that? Like something similar? Like, picture me.
No.

Speaker 1 He meant to send you somebody else. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Weird, huh?

Speaker 1 Call phone calls yeah all phone calls right that's smart that's smart um i read that you sued a domain squatter who squatted on a bunch of athletes names for websites yeah that was a while you guys you guys are finding some funny things in there man what the man yeah that guy has every right that's like uh that's the internet troll slash commenter's goal in life yeah is to own chrisbosch.com before chris bosch it's a fact and he did and he did and he's got a story.

Speaker 1 Right. But that was bullshit that you sued him.
How? How many did he have? He just had to give them back. We didn't get any money.

Speaker 1 He had like 800 of them. It was a lot.
I can't remember. I remember it was a few.
That's such a fucking

Speaker 1 asshole.

Speaker 1 It wasn't just one where I'm like, yeah, I collected everything.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. He had them all.

Speaker 1 Everybody, the whole Phoenix Suns team. Everybody was like, yo, come on, man.
Come on. I love that guy.

Speaker 2 He treated me like it was his

Speaker 1 gold rush or he's striking oil in west texas so of course

Speaker 1 he felt like that yeah so he was ahead of the curve rock

Speaker 1 man yeah you know if if that was his name

Speaker 1 i mean i think it's bullshit that's that is like the american dream to capitalize off someone else's name yeah you should have registered his name

Speaker 1 right i mean you know if if that's if that's how you see it all right so along that same lines what do you think about copywriting something like taco tuesday

Speaker 1 taco tuesday i mean it'd be funny if it goes through.

Speaker 1 It'd be really funny. I'm going to sue him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah.
There's a lot of people right now in America and the world. It's like, that's my, I invented that.
Taco Tuesday. I invented that.
No one owns Taco Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Everyone owns Taco Tuesday. Yeah.
You know that. Yeah, we'll see.
It's for the people. That's for sure.
We'll see if

Speaker 1 he gets the copyright.

Speaker 1 I want to interview the guy who took all those websites. That guy, honestly, is fascinating to me.
Yeah. Who just had them all.

Speaker 1 It is kind of fascinating. I mean, it does take vision.
Yes. You have to give it to him.
It does take vision.

Speaker 2 Did you ever see him in court? Or was it?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. It was just all handled outside.
It wasn't even that big of a deal. I know a guy who bought cj spiller.net, but CJ Spiller ended up sucking.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 he struck out. You know, some investments you strike it rich, some young

Speaker 1 shot on a guy. This is just the market.
He's a stock market.

Speaker 1 He stomps.

Speaker 2 Is Drake corny?

Speaker 1 No. You don't think so? No.
He hates Drake.

Speaker 2 I'm I'm not a Drake guy.

Speaker 1 You're not a Drake guy?

Speaker 1 Why are you a Drake guy? I'm a Drake guy.

Speaker 2 Because he just never did it for me. I know, I understand, I respect that some people like his music.
For me, it's just, it never slapped right for me. It's just like it seems a little slow.

Speaker 2 His flow is kind of lazy.

Speaker 1 It's definitely slow.

Speaker 2 He does a thing where he rhymes the same word with the same word a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like a lot of people like Drake because he has a very good image.

Speaker 1 And that's it. And I mean, he makes great music.
You have to give it to him. He makes great, incredible songs.

Speaker 2 I do like the beats. I like the beats that he has.
And you're a producer, too, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you sit down? Do you play the piano? Do you play

Speaker 1 the guitar? I'm

Speaker 1 trying to learn the piano.

Speaker 1 I'm not that good at the guitar, but

Speaker 1 it's a work in progress.

Speaker 1 Are you like a whip out the acoustic guitar and just start playing it and be that guy? I'm not that guy.

Speaker 2 No one likes that guy.

Speaker 1 No one likes that guy.

Speaker 1 That guy sucks.

Speaker 2 I got asked to be that guy like a month and a half ago, and I was like, I'm not bringing my guitar because at that point, that's a lineup.

Speaker 1 I want to bring my guitar, you know, but I'm not just going gonna be like all right i wrote this song yeah right little tune when i was out here and yeah no one asked you for it yeah you know and then and then and then you do back to back to back you know it's like yeah that that dude does suck yeah so you have do you have new music coming out soon um uh hopefully okay hopefully i've been um i've been uh working with writers um quite a bit over i mean it's been

Speaker 1 five oh man getting on five years has been crazy but um you know the learning curve has been great i've worked with some um you know some great people that's taught me a lot and so you know now i'm working with writers um trying to you know get some songs out there that's awesome yeah so that's awesome you know i've just and learning the business too it's a very fascinating business and a very fascinating time right and i just really really like it right do you know sunny digital say it again do you know sunny digital yeah i was actually uh

Speaker 1 man last

Speaker 1 In May, I was in Atlanta, met Sonny Digital. We hung out at his studio.
Yes, he's a man.

Speaker 1 Has he cleaned it up? We went to him right when it started. Yeah, well, yeah,

Speaker 1 it's coming together now. But yeah, we hung out.
You could see him. He's got a lot of stuff around

Speaker 1 amps and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 He produced two of our songs. Yeah.
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's my dude. Yeah, Sonny.
We got to do it. Oh, yeah, we just met May.
Yeah, we did. He was an exclusive deal with him.

Speaker 2 Drink, paint, and chunk. You ever heard him?

Speaker 1 I have not. Okay, I'm not surprised.
All right, I have two questions left.

Speaker 1 The first is, I never fully wrapped my head around how the end of your career, like the medical side of it. So can you explain it? Because I remember just being like, that's a bummer.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the comebacks were rumored for a while, and I just kind of assumed you would be back. Yeah.
And it never happened. So can you walk me through that?

Speaker 1 The first time, I had a pulmonary embolism.

Speaker 1 Very bad.

Speaker 1 Tremendous pain. in my left side of my whole left side of my body.
Thank God. You know, most people don't survive that.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 You know, so it kind of gives me chills just thinking about that sometimes, you know. And I was in the hospital, had a collapsed lung.

Speaker 1 I was in the hospital for

Speaker 1 five days. I thought I was about to go home.

Speaker 1 They bring me in the office and say, all right, you know, we've got to do surgery on you tomorrow. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
We've got to clean out your lungs because we cannot

Speaker 1 drain the rest of the fluid from your lungs. I had to get my lungs drained.
That sucks. You know, and so they said, well, we got got to go in there.
This has happened. This has happened.

Speaker 1 So I was in the hospital. I can't remember for how long after that.
I want to say another nine days, eight, nine days, and

Speaker 1 had to recover from that.

Speaker 1 Recovered the next year. And then pretty much what happened is I felt I had a sore spot in my calf

Speaker 1 right before I lost our game. Me and my son, I took my son and I went to go practice the three-point shooting.

Speaker 1 So we went back to the gym at night and got some shots up before we headed to Toronto next day. Woke up in the morning, my calf is sore.

Speaker 1 I start freaking out a little bit because, you know, in our research of everything we've done with blood clots, we know that it originates sometimes. If it's sore,

Speaker 1 that could be a sign. So I went to the hospital and, you know,

Speaker 1 it was, I guess, a blood clot there.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 like, mentally, that has to be challenging to you're a professional athlete. You're in peak shape.
You take care of yourself. Yeah.
And have something fail you like that.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know what? I don't even think it's a thing that fails. I think it happens all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it happens all the time because I did another CAT scan and it wasn't there, you know,

Speaker 1 a few days later. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, so, and I was still in shape and I was still feeling good.

Speaker 1 And this is, you know, I thought I was doing all these precautionary measures and stuff like that, you know.

Speaker 1 And it kind of, you know, you kind of go to a place sometimes even now of saying, man, I shouldn't have said something, but.

Speaker 1 Can't do that because it's like, okay, that might have been the one that'll get you. Yeah.
It'll be the one you don't see coming, especially after surviving something like that.

Speaker 1 So I just, you know, kind of let it run its course. The heat were in a tough position.
That was obvious because liability, insurance, contracts, and all those things. So

Speaker 1 it is what it is. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 We actually have a guy at this company that had a blood clot, and it was like the week or maybe a week and a half, something like that, after you.

Speaker 2 And because of what you had just been through, he knew what to look for. Yeah, and he went to the hospital and got taken care of.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 that's awesome.

Speaker 1 I had a buddy of mine um, as an assistant coach, and he was having the same, you know, symptoms, and people, because people misdiagnose you sometimes, and he was misdiagnosed, and he said, Man, nah.

Speaker 1 And so he kept being persistent, and turned come to find out he had the same problem.

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Speaker 1 We've hung out now for 30 minutes. I feel like I know you.

Speaker 1 Let's turn off the cameras. How annoying is LeBron for real?

Speaker 1 I would just think he's annoying. Oh, he's so annoying, right?

Speaker 1 He made you read books, right? Godfrey.

Speaker 1 No, I read books.

Speaker 1 I read books. Yeah, but he made books.
He has his own book club that he gives books. He's fake reads books.
No, he ain't a book club. Go ahead.
You can say, you know what? We'll cut this part.

Speaker 1 Why you don't like LeBron? Why yeah? I actually like LeBron. I just like LeBron.
I'm a LeBron. I actually like, I enjoy the sport of hating LeBron so much.

Speaker 1 It's actually one of my favorite things to do as a sports fan. I mean, you know, that's usually what happens.
Right. You know, you get stuck in this spot and you're like, this is what I am now.

Speaker 1 I'm a hater of this. And you kick it out.
He's doing Space Jam too, man. Yeah.
It's going to suck. You think so? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 We know what it is.

Speaker 1 In this day and age, you think it's going to suck? Yeah. He'll reverse it.
Bugs, bunny. He'll ruin it.
Bugs, bunny. Yeah.
And Warner Brothers. Did he ask you to go on it? No.
Why not?

Speaker 1 Man, I'm doing stuff, man. Okay.
Would you have done it? Absolutely, of course.

Speaker 1 It's a long shoot. What a bad friend.
Plus,

Speaker 1 I'm a free agent. You know what I mean? I might be a little bit too rich for Warner Brothers blood.
That's true. You know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 The movie is usually.

Speaker 2 The movie is basically a front that he's using to try to get people to L.A., circumvent the cap, give you a production credit on Space Jam 2. Yeah.
A little extra walking around money in your pocket.

Speaker 1 Have any of those guys reached out to you, by the way, of like when they get traded to the Lakers or they got traded to the Cavs and been like, hey, Chris, how do you what's the best way to fit in with LeBron?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually talked to Kyle Kuzma too. You did?

Speaker 1 Yeah, night before last. Yeah, interesting.
On night.

Speaker 1 Had you talked to him before this season? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. So that's probably why he's still on the Lakers.
He didn't get traded.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if I gave him any pointers.

Speaker 1 He'd have to tell you that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 he asked me a couple questions, and

Speaker 1 I just gave him some things to look for and

Speaker 1 things to take advantage of.

Speaker 1 They traded the whole team. Every time they were going to trade everyone, they're like, but Kyle Kuzma.
You're like, what's going on here?

Speaker 1 It's because Chris Posh told Kyle Kuzma how to be friends with LeBron two days ago. Yeah, but we're going to just.
No, this is good for race.

Speaker 1 It's a retroactive change. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's perfect. Yeah.
You got any last question? I think we're good. All right, Chris, thank you so much.
Yeah, appreciate it. This has been a lot of fun.
Yeah, you're welcome anytime. Thank you, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have a connect the dots.
Mort keeps tweeting the rat emoji.

Speaker 2 Yeah, interesting. Hmm.

Speaker 1 Hmm. I thought

Speaker 1 in a dream that it was somehow about Schefter, which would have been so awesome if we had an inter-ESPN feud.

Speaker 2 No, they would never. It's not.

Speaker 1 It's not because.

Speaker 2 They don't sub-tweet each other at ESPN. They just show each other pictures of their dicks on their phone.

Speaker 1 It's about Ian Rapport. Yep.
So Ian Rapport has been a naughty boy with his little backpack, and he's been stealing

Speaker 1 information?

Speaker 2 Apparently, now the accusation is that they're stealing scoops, copying Schefter's reports, because there were three separate instances last night where Schefter would tweet something out, then within a minute or two afterwards, Rap would tweet out.

Speaker 2 Basically the exact same report. Dikes.
And then that was followed by a Mort tweet

Speaker 1 of a rat.

Speaker 2 First, there was one rat, then two, then three. I said it was like the plot of the departed.
Yep. Where at the end, the rat means a rat.
Yep. At the end of it, when they zoom in on it, it's a rat.

Speaker 2 Who would have thought that Chris Mortensen is ESPN's attack dog?

Speaker 1 Who would have thought Chris Mortensen knew how to work emojis?

Speaker 2 He probably just does a thing where he types in rat. He googles rat and then copy and paste that in.
I love it.

Speaker 1 We need it. We need some more, you know, insider versus insider, you know, spice it up.
Yeah, spice it up with with some rats.

Speaker 3 Rappaport needs someone on NFL network.

Speaker 1 Rataport

Speaker 3 needs to start doing it back because I'm sure you could flip the switch and have

Speaker 3 the same thing. Tweets the cheese.

Speaker 2 Tweets the cheese back.

Speaker 3 No, he needs to get someone on NFL network that does this, like, fights Mort back, basically.

Speaker 1 You know what he needs to do?

Speaker 1 He needs to get one of his most trusted sources to give Mort a fake report, have Mort tweet it, and then tweet the cheese.

Speaker 2 That's not a bad idea. Yeah, like you just

Speaker 1 get it, buddy.

Speaker 2 Or get Jane Slater to start tweeting. Just what should, what should the counter to Mortensen be?

Speaker 1 If there was an emoji besides cheese to fire back at him, it's cat or

Speaker 1 cat because it kills the rat. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 Vigo Mortensen.

Speaker 1 We got this.

Speaker 2 We got this. Promises showing up naked and kicking the shit out of Rappaport.

Speaker 1 I just love this type of drama because Rappaport and Schefter,

Speaker 1 I think combined, might weigh 250 pounds. That's Two little guys just like scrapping it out.

Speaker 1 They're fighting in the 120, they're wrestling in the 125-pound division. They both can't, they're too short to ride.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. Yeah, God help you if Ken Rosenthal gets involved somehow.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 it would pay so much money to see the three of them battle it out.

Speaker 2 Prisco? Yes. Prisco would win.

Speaker 1 Prisco would.

Speaker 1 See ya. Yes, see ya.
See ya. He'd kick him out right away.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do our PMT Sports Biz Minute.

Speaker 7 Good morning, this is Jake Marsh with the PMT Sports Biz Minute. Unfortunately, one of the big storylines from the NFL season so far has been the amount of quarterbacks who have gone down.

Speaker 7 Drew Brees, Big Ben, Nick Full, Sam Darnold. I mean, it's just tough to see.
So these teams return to their second stringers, of course, to take snaps under center.

Speaker 7 And that got me thinking, what the heck does a position on a depth chart have to do with a piece of string?

Speaker 7 Well, the answer goes back to the time of medieval archery when a man needed a second string for his bow. If his first string broke, he could take out his second and proceed as necessary.

Speaker 7 Today's guest, Chris Bosch, hauled in one of the biggest rebounds in NBA history, game six, 2013 NBA Finals. In his career, Bosch totaled 7,592 boards, and on the court, he earned $239,063,622.

Speaker 7 Do the math, bam, that's more than $31,000 per rebound. Not too shabby.
That's your PMT Sports Biz Minute, Mr. Captain, Mr.
Commenter.

Speaker 1 Back to you. Thanks, Jake.
Very cool. Very cool, Jake.
Very cool, Jake.

Speaker 1 And now, before we do Guys on Chicks, we have a Mike Tomlin quote generator.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so Mike Tomlin has been given some press conferences recently. What with the health of Big Ben and everything being in question?

Speaker 2 He's had a couple fire all-time Mike Tomlin takes. And I've got, I actually have three Mike Tomlin quotes,

Speaker 2 one of which is not actually said by Mike Tomlin. So it's like two truths and a lie, which one of these did not come from.
Okay, this is Mike Tomlin talking about.

Speaker 1 So I'll guess at the end.

Speaker 2 Yes, this is Mike Tomlin talking about what's important in Sunday's game, what they're looking for on offense. We're looking for analytically winnable possession downs.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Okay.

Speaker 2 Then this is Mike Tomlin after the game being asked about putting in a backup quarterback. You have to overcome adversity, and we undercame it.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And then the third one talking about getting ready for next week. The 49ers secondary is a fundamentalist outfit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say number two is fake. You nailed it.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No such thing as undercountry.

Speaker 1 Well, but Mike Tomlin might

Speaker 1 use it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would be shocked if he hasn't used it in the past. The fundamentalist thing, that is something that Mike Tomlin says about everybody.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I went back through Twitter and I looked at all these quotes from his press conferences before. He's called the Cowboys, the Jaguars, the Giants, the 49ers, and the Steelers all fundamentalists.

Speaker 1 All the teams.

Speaker 2 All fundamentalist teams.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Burka defense. It covers everything.

Speaker 1 Mike Tomman, what a. I would love to just doctor Olomalu that brain.
Oh, my God. Just look through it.
Yeah. Tell the truth.

Speaker 2 You tell the truth.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank. Guys on checks.

Speaker 3 Hey, guys, I'm from New England, and I'm a big patriot. Actually, this one sucks.
Sup, boys.

Speaker 1 So, my boyfriend had a couple of friends over, and we had talking about that.

Speaker 2 Hank, that's fucking hate against the Patriots.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 2 you're the one that's doing your pod, bro.

Speaker 3 Hey, guys, I'm from New England, and I'm a big Patriots fan, but I went to college in Ohio. The past two guys I've dated and my current boyfriend have all been Browns fans.

Speaker 3 What does this say about my personality? Am I a sucker for the lovable losers that are the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 3 Do I secretly want to be a Browns fan and be constantly disappointed because being a Patriots fan has gotten boring because we are just so damn good all the time?

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 3 Like, we already know we're going to win the Super Bowl in its week two.

Speaker 1 Please advise.

Speaker 2 At least you're not dating a cat. I think you went to college in Ohio.

Speaker 1 I think that's what it says. Yeah.
You went to college in Ohio. Right.
So that's really what, what does your personality say to go live Ohio State, I assume?

Speaker 2 Did she say? Which is Ohio.

Speaker 1 That would be Oberlin. Ohio's got the fifth most porn stars.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 3 Sup, boys, especially diehard cheesehead PFT. Is the new Packers, is the Packers new and improved defense signs of a potential postseason run?

Speaker 3 The cornerback dude is much improved, and the D-line is very impressive.

Speaker 1 Thanks, boys. Oh, wow.
Okay.

Speaker 1 She flexed.

Speaker 2 I think she knows more about football than I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Matt LaFleur. He's a defensive specialist.
So, yeah, this is the new look, the new look Packers.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you how much it bothers me, makes me mad, makes me sad that the Packers might be good again.

Speaker 2 Oh, they're really good.

Speaker 1 They're not really good. I do know.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins, any other quarterback wins that game. Any other quarterback beats him in the first two games.

Speaker 2 I have a fun stat here. This isn't really about the Packers.
Yeah, I said it, but I forgot to mention it at the start. So fun stat alert.

Speaker 3 So any other quarterback would have beaten them in the first game, meaning Kirk Cousins would have beat them in the first game. Probably.

Speaker 3 But any other quarterback would have beat them in the second game.

Speaker 1 Meaning Mitch could have beat him in the second game. Got it.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay, noted. Fun stat alert.

Speaker 2 If the Chiefs weren't allowed to play offensive football inside their opponent's 20-yard line this year, they would still be averaging 22.5 points per game and have the league's 11th best offense.

Speaker 2 By comparison, the Bears are averaging 9.5.

Speaker 1 That's cool. And what about the Redskins?

Speaker 2 Using the entire length of the field.

Speaker 1 You never mentioned the Redskins.

Speaker 2 Well, it's nut-cutting time on Monday, big cat. We're going to find out once and for you.

Speaker 1 Go in and out of Redskin fandom when your team is.

Speaker 2 Who the superior offense is on Monday. The Bears are the Redskins.
Let me just make sure

Speaker 1 you're a Packers fan, a Patriots fan, a Dolphins fan, a Redskins fan.

Speaker 1 That's it?

Speaker 1 Flacco fan. Yep.
Who else?

Speaker 2 Phillip Rivers fan.

Speaker 1 Phillip Rivers fan. All right, go ahead, Hank.

Speaker 2 By the way, we forgot when we were talking to Chris Bosch earlier about coaches and players that started to look like the mascots, Mike Shanahan literally developed red skin after he started coaching in Washington.

Speaker 1 Well, his tanning salon. That's true.

Speaker 3 Hey guys, my roommate and her boyfriend were dating for a year and a half, and then she found out he cheated on her and they, quote unquote, broke up.

Speaker 3 Flash forward to the next week, and they're all good. And by the next weekend, he was back partying with us.
We were all kind of shocked, but we went along with it.

Speaker 3 We went to the bar and got drinks and sat down in a booth, and apparently they were downstairs fighting. They came back us, and they came back up, and he started calling his friends

Speaker 3 F-words and he walked out of the bar and left my roommate at the bar with us crying.

Speaker 3 We walked her home and his roommates told her about the numerous times that he cheated on her and she made it seem like it was over for good.

Speaker 3 Now, like two weeks after that, they still fuck all the time and it disgusts me and I don't know what to do. All caps, help.

Speaker 1 Send her this clip. Stand up for yourself, girl.
Fuck him. No, give him a Pete Prisco.

Speaker 3 You don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck him.

Speaker 2 Don't fuck him anymore.

Speaker 1 Give him a Pete Prisco Sia.

Speaker 2 ya. I'll be honest with you.
I lost the plot of that story about half a day.

Speaker 1 Basically, he just keeps cheating, and she keeps bringing him back. You got to see him.

Speaker 2 Got to see you. Yeah, something about that bad boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, stand up for yourself. Girl power.

Speaker 3 Hey, boys, especially dad cat. So, long story short, I slept on and off with the dude for a few months, and he was basically super vanilla before sleeping with me.

Speaker 3 The only weird kink he has was putting my tongue in his ear and trade for him degrading me in bed, which he was super scared to do.

Speaker 2 And trade for degrading her.

Speaker 1 Only thing, The only kink was having you tongue his ear so that then he could degrade you in bed.

Speaker 2 This sounds to me like it's a little tit-for-tat where she wanted to be degraded, but the only way he would do it was if she put her tongue in.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that doesn't count as the only kink. That's a pretty big kink.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's also an AWL and is the person who got me listening to PMT. Just wanted to give him a shout-out for being a babyback bitch.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Damn.

Speaker 2 That's kind of cool that we've been in the same era as your girlfriend has.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 This reminds me of, I don't think they do this anymore, but in college, the Badger Herald, which is the Wisconsin newspaper, used to do shout-outs, and it was just anonymous

Speaker 1 notes of people just ripping each other. Yeah, especially.
Just fucking crushing each other.

Speaker 2 College newspapers were

Speaker 2 like just the original message board. Yeah, it was fucked up.

Speaker 3 Hey, boys, especially PETA FT.

Speaker 3 My boyfriend hasn't watched his Patriots jersey since December, since they haven't lost since then. Damn, it's been that long.

Speaker 3 And smells like dust, farts, and beer. He says he won't wash it until they lose.
Should I wash it secretly or let him wear it until they lose?

Speaker 2 He'll know if you wash it.

Speaker 2 It's like a dog when you come home being able to smell somebody else on you, like another person's dog.

Speaker 1 We also, you can wash it, dude, because we found out on Monday's show that the only Jinx that matters for the Patriots is Ernestine Bayless.

Speaker 1 So that supersedes all other jinxes. You're fine to wash it.
As long as Ernestine Bayless doesn't rudely try to walk into a room that Skip is in at any moment, at any time, you're fine.

Speaker 2 By the way, I kind of believe in that stuff, though. Like, not washing a jersey.

Speaker 1 Of course, that shit's real. Yeah.
For sure.

Speaker 2 Also, the smellier it gets, the more effective it is.

Speaker 1 Well, and you also feel like you're like you're a real player. It's like, I got to put on my jersey.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's something whack about seeing another man at Buffalo Wild Wings in a perfectly new jersey. Gross.
It's like, come on. Can't be trusted.
Let's get out of here. Bandwagon.

Speaker 3 All All right, last one. What's up, boys? My boyfriend has one outfit that he calls his quote-unquote dress-up outfit that he wears whenever he has to dress up for anything.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nice jacket.

Speaker 3 Every time we've gone to my parents' house, he wears the same outfit. Yep.
My mom noticed it and grew concerned. So I decided to buy him a new outfit.
No. He still wears the same old dress-up outfit.

Speaker 3 Is this normal, or is he just being lazy and doesn't care about the stuff I bring him to? Totally.

Speaker 3 What should I do/slash/say?

Speaker 1 Nothing. If he looks good, nothing.
That's listen,

Speaker 1 if you're a guy and you find something that works, you run that play till it doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 3 Sounds like it's not working, though.

Speaker 1 No, it sounds like it's working. It's just people are confused.

Speaker 2 He got a girlfriend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He got a girlfriend who's nice enough to buy him new clothes.

Speaker 1 He got a girlfriend who feels secure enough in the relationship to introduce him to her family. That's...
That shit's working.

Speaker 2 Really, the only move that you have left is to accidentally spill something on it and stain it. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Because

Speaker 1 he'll never go anywhere nice. He just won't.

Speaker 2 Every time you try to go to an hour, I guess that part of my life's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like, nope, sorry. Don't have my outfit in.

Speaker 2 It's like taking Superman's cape away from him.

Speaker 1 Do not do that. Do not do that.
All right. We'll see everyone on Friday.

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