Packers HC Matt LaFleur, We Riot + Mount Rushmore Of Magic Johnson's Favorite Things

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Green Bay Packers head coach, Matt LaFleur. Little training camp bonus for the people.
We went up to Green Bay, kind of a dump. We talked to

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Speaker 1 about coaching Aaron Rodgers. They call it Title Town for a reason, folks.
Getting his job.

Speaker 1 New coach tearing his ACL. Is he scared of Khalil Mack? Answer is yes.

Speaker 1 We also have Magic Johnson, Mount Rushmore of Magic Johnson's top 60 list for in honor of him turning 60.

Speaker 1 Only Magic Johnson could do this, so we're going to break it down, give you our Mount Rushmore picks off of his list.

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Speaker 1 I don't know if we should riot. It feels like not a riot because they addressed Antonio Brown.
So to back up, if you didn't listen,

Speaker 1 I should explain that. So why are we rioting?

Speaker 1 On Friday, Big Kat and I tweeted basically at the exact same time, like literally the exact same time, that if they don't show Antonio Brown complaining about his helmet, faking the new helmet, the whole helmet gate situation on hard knocks, then we riot.

Speaker 1 We riot. And we kind of painted ourselves into a corner, and we're not sure if he rioted or if he actually complained enough to warrant a riot on this show.

Speaker 1 You sent out a Google calendar that just kept on popping up every like five minutes. We're watching the show live in the in-studio.
We're actually five minutes late for the riot.

Speaker 1 Five minutes late for the riot, but I was like, why the f what do I have at 11 o'clock on a Tuesday? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Riot if they don't talk about Antonio Brown helmet gates.

Speaker 1 So Hank tentatively accepted the calendar invites. It was maybe.
It was if. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I wrote maybe because we might riot, but they did talk about it.

Speaker 1 So we have to decide.

Speaker 4 I vote,

Speaker 1 i vote like a half a rot

Speaker 1 fuck fuck this fuck that yeah do that do that all right pft's throwing some shit off his his uh little corner over there all right that's some good rioting feel good kick kick that kick that skateboard kick it there you go okay so we rioted riot complete that was a riot we hey we never make promises we don't keep on this show ever that was me throwing don't get out of control you just throw a coaster you might drink later they sort of talked about it i don't Antonio Brown, I think the problem was he wasn't there.

Speaker 1 He wasn't there for most of it. So they really saw at home.
They didn't have a camera on. They showed his disgusting feet and him talking about circumcising his feet was weird.
Which was hot.

Speaker 1 Was very weird.

Speaker 1 So all in all, decent, decent hard knocks. Not what we wanted because we wanted some real juicy Antonio Brown.
We wanted John Gruden sitting in his office being like, where the hell is this guy?

Speaker 1 and flipping out. But you know what? We did get was John Gruden talking a lot about Nathan Peterman.
So that was nice. Nathan Peterman versus Mike Glennon.
Yeah, so awesome backup battle.

Speaker 1 And the best part about John Gruden talking about Peterman is he just follows every sentence with the word man. Yeah.
Like, I love football, man.

Speaker 1 But when you talk about Peterman, you get a double man. Yeah.
He's like, I like this kid, Peterman, man. Yeah.
And he kept on saying that he sucks, but saying he loves him.

Speaker 1 He was like, Nathan Peterman, you're going so slow. My life is running out of lifespan.
That was a direct quote.

Speaker 1 And Mike Glennon, I don't know, I said it out loud while we were watching.

Speaker 1 I don't know how I thought for any moment in my life that Mike Glennon was the answer quarterback for the Bears or for any team for that matter.

Speaker 1 That's a pretty big indictment of the Chicago Bears, right there. Yeah, like Ryan Pace, great.
A Chicago team's coach scouting him or what? At one point, you were like, Mike Glennon's our guy.

Speaker 1 I remember he threw out the first pitch at Wrigley, and I was like, This guy, I don't know, he could do it. This long-ass neck.
But yeah, he threw a couple.

Speaker 1 When you get out-intercepted by Nathan Peterman, I think we talked about this on Monday, it's just a terrible look. You can't have that happen.

Speaker 1 Nathan Peterman is the interception guy, and then you go out and beat him on that. Peterman Man threw a pretty clean game.
He did that scramble for 50 yards. Yep, Glennon had two bad interceptions.

Speaker 1 Real bad.

Speaker 1 I think John Gruden's falling in love with Peterman, man. He already was in love with him.

Speaker 1 He was in love with him at the draft. Remember? Yep.
My other big takeaway was Sean McVay is the original piss boy. Yes.
Well, Gruden was the piss boy,

Speaker 1 but then he called Sean McVay the piss boy when McVay was working for him in Tampa.

Speaker 1 Such a hilarious interaction, a young Sean McVay, probably 23, 24 years old, and John Gruden just grilling him on whether he loves football or not. He's like, but do you love it?

Speaker 1 Like, you love watching it, but do you love it? You can watch football. You can hear everyone talk about it, but do you love it? And Sean McVay is like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I love football. Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was cool seeing them meet at midfield and then Sean McVay not sure whether or not to do his big Gruden impression or to like dial it down because he was around Gruden because I think he got out-Grudened when they were meeting and they were saying, What's up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, which is to be expected. I mean, like, that's the whole teacher-mentor relationship.

Speaker 1 Shout out Jonathan Abram, realizing that he looked like an idiot in the first week and toning it down a little.

Speaker 1 I said that out loud. I was like, listen, if he's the same way week two, then this is just who he is, and it's going to be really annoying.

Speaker 1 But everyone has the right to look bad on camera once or twice and then realize, oh, maybe I shouldn't just

Speaker 1 blow guys up in the middle of the field when we're not even having pads on and then laugh in Gruden's face when he tells me not to do that.

Speaker 1 Maybe I shouldn't just keep pushing and prodding about the pronunciation of salmon. That's not great TV.
Every guy gets one week where they're allowed to look shitty on television.

Speaker 1 We used ours up a couple years ago. But you have to learn and you have to move on.
Yeah. Derek Carr, also not as awkward.
Felt like they toned that down as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that had a lot to do with Mike Lennon standing behind him most of the time. It's tough to look more awkward than Mike Lennon.
Yeah, but overall, it was decent. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just feel like this hard knock season is never going to live up to the hype, especially with everything that's going.

Speaker 1 Next week, they have a chance, a chance to make it really, really cool if Antonio Brown stuff is actually talked about. Or we riot.
Or we riot. That we're going to do.

Speaker 1 Riot has been absolutely pushed to next week. So, what's going on with Antonio Brown?

Speaker 1 You have some things going. I do have a couple things cooking with Antonio Brown.
So he obviously has been sitting out because of the feet and because he doesn't have his helmet.

Speaker 1 His helmet is too old to be recertified. It's like 10 years old.
Okay. And so they won't let it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. We talked about it a little bit earlier, but so he's been looking for the exact same model, just one that happens to be made within the last 10 years so he can get it recertified.

Speaker 1 Now, thanks to AWL Nation, we have tracked down two of these helmets

Speaker 1 in his size. One is from a fun belt player, a former funbelt player, and the other, I'm not exactly sure what college it's from, but it's the same.
It's the

Speaker 1 exact same model that he wears, the exact same size that he wears. And I think the face masks are the same too.

Speaker 1 So he's been trying to find one of these, and he said that if we can find one and he can get one, he'll trade a Raiders-used helmet. And we don't want that.
We don't want that.

Speaker 1 We want, Hank had a great idea. We will trade Antonio Brown right now.
If you, everyone tweeted Antonio Brown and tell him these guys have two helmets ready to go.

Speaker 1 In return, we want you to do a touchdown dance for us. Yes.
A pardon-my take touchdown dance. That's all we ask.
I don't know what that touchdown dance looks like. Well, we got to figure it out.

Speaker 1 My neck, my back, and then grab his crotch, then his butt.

Speaker 1 What if he goes up to Derek Carr and starts eating his butt? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would accept that. There we go.
You got to simulate ass eating. Get right in the muffler of the car there.
Yeah, you get simulate ass eating. You get both helmets.
Right in the tailpipe.

Speaker 1 If you don't want to do that, we'll give you one helmet for.

Speaker 1 If you wear a part of my take fanny pack and it gets on hard knocks. Ooh.
Oh, what if we made, what if we made like a skin cover for an iPhone and you did a Joe Horn? Oh, that'd be nice.

Speaker 1 That would be pretty sick. Honestly, just get us a lunch with Mark Davis.
Yes, actually, that is, that's it. Yeah.
So either

Speaker 1 Derek Carr's ass or PF Changes with Mark Davis. I don't think those are crazy off.
I don't think so either. I mean, I think they're both pretty good.
We're being nice. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's a great helmet.

Speaker 1 Do you want this helmet or not, Antonio? Because the fact is, if you don't have this helmet and you don't play this year, I think you're walking away from like $20 million

Speaker 1 and all the touchdown dances. Would you rather have $20 million or eat Derek Carr's ass? Just simulate it.
It's pretty. You don't have to do it.
And actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm going to throw in a little extra. I want

Speaker 1 someone to fake hit a home run like Christian Yelich, and then he eats the ass. That's the Alfred Morris touchdown dance.
I like that one. That's home.

Speaker 1 Home run, and then they're watching, and they're like, well, and they give a little... Shit, guess we got to do it.
And then they go and do it.

Speaker 1 You know, it'd be great if Derek Carr could also do the salute, the mile-high salute, while he was getting his ass eaten. Just like all in all, I think that's a

Speaker 1 cereal graph. Totally reasonable.
That's not celebrated. Or not flaggable.
Or General Siles with Love is Love. Mark Davis.
Yes. Pretty easy.
You decide. You decide.

Speaker 1 I can't decide which one I'd rather see or do. I think both work.
I think we'd be happy with both. Yeah, either one's fine.
What about you, Hank?

Speaker 4 I want to see the ass. You want to see the task?

Speaker 1 You want to see the ass eating touchdown? Okay. All right.
Well,

Speaker 1 he can do it. What can Brown do for you? He can do it.
Let's go. Everyone tell him we got two helmets for him.
Two. Two.

Speaker 1 You know it would be perfect because that weirdo feel that they have in Oakland if he literally did it on third base. Oh, and Derek Carr maybe sat down in the dirt beforehand and stood up.

Speaker 1 Got real muddy with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, now we're getting a little out of control, but that's okay.
I think this is

Speaker 1 called anchoring the negotiation. We put this out, and he's like, tell you what, I'll do it, except for the muddy button.
Good segue. You didn't even mean to segue.

Speaker 1 We have to talk about Dak Prescott being the greatest negotiator of all time. Yeah.
Because there was was news that came out that he wants $40 million,

Speaker 1 immediately debunked, but I'm basically going to just assume he wants $40 million. Boom, negotiation anchored.
So Jerry offered $30 million.

Speaker 1 Now, this is all from, I think, Jane Slater reported it, and she's very close with the Cowboys team. So I'm guessing this is coming from Jerry or somebody close to him.
Right.

Speaker 1 That they offered him 30 million and he countered with 40 million. So I'm not sure if he actually came back with 40 million, but like you, I choose to believe, like, yeah, why not ask for 50 Dak?

Speaker 1 Right, just ask for it, pay him, right? Pay Dak's a bitch. This will be an interesting negotiation because Dak Prescott is right on that line.

Speaker 1 He is that guy who you're like, do we give him a ton of money? And you got to go all in. If you got the guy that you think might be your quarterback, you got to pay him 45 million.

Speaker 1 But you also have the problem with the Cowboys have, like, they actually have a good young core that they have to keep paid. And I think they just paid a couple guys.

Speaker 1 I know they just paid Demarcus Lawrence. Like, you got to pay Zeke, you got to pay Amari Cooper.

Speaker 1 So I know that everyone keeps tweeting. I think there's some people out there like, Dak's not as bad as people make it out to seem.
And I don't think he is. That's worth $45 million right there.

Speaker 1 I don't think

Speaker 1 I don't think he's worth $40 million.

Speaker 1 And I think that you probably have to sit down, Dak, and be like, dude, I know that you want this much money, but would you rather this much money or maybe win a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys?

Speaker 1 Which won't happen, but you got to negotiate that way. As not a Dallas Cowboys fan, I hope they pay Dak as much money as possible.
Did you hear what? 70. Did you hear this? Yeah, 75.
Okay. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Let's deal.
Full send. This is a quote from Jerry Jones today from John Machoda.
He was talking about the situation that he's in with Dak, Ezekiel, and Amari.

Speaker 1 He said, picture you were a driver of a car and you had a wreck and your hand was almost severed off, but you didn't understand your anatomy. You look down.
Sorry, sorry to do Jerry voice.

Speaker 1 You look down. You're spurting blood.
You open the door and you run to the woods and you either die bleeding to death or shock.

Speaker 1 The educated man looks down, knows his anatomy, squeezes, and knows his best chance chance is to wait for help. That's because he's been there a lot and done that.

Speaker 1 So I'm squeezing and I'm waiting for help.

Speaker 1 So that's Jerry Jones on contract negotiations.

Speaker 4 That might be your best impression.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was good, Jerry. That was really good.
I like jacking it into my shoes. That was like George Bush Ross Perot.
I got R.I.P. I got my cum foot.

Speaker 1 I'm Jerry.

Speaker 1 Pass me that Johnny Walker blue. We just gave you a compliment, and you're just like, I'm coming back for more, and I'm going to ruin it.
I just Johnny Walker blew a load into my shoes.

Speaker 1 All right. So, yeah, Dak Prescott, I guess I pay him.
They got to pay everyone. Pay Dak.
Pay Zeke. Pay Amari.

Speaker 4 They should just put it like a bunch of money and be like, you guys figure it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, here's $90 million.

Speaker 1 Yes. Who wants to do what? Do it.
Lock them in a room with $90 million, a pocket knife, and a roll of duct tape. And just let the chips fall where they may.
Or have it be that big Salvation Army bowl.

Speaker 1 and have it be a big bowl of cereal like that like Zeke getting fed. Okay.
And then there's money at the bottom. Okay.
And whatever. Dollar bills.

Speaker 1 And whatever you don't take out goes to the Salvation Army for charity. So how gravy are you going to be? Right.
Just have them jump in like it's double dare. Yeah, I like that.
You guys decide.

Speaker 1 And then loser gets slimed. Yep.
Okay. Problem solved.

Speaker 1 All right. We should do a hot seat cool throne before we get to our Mount Rushmore and Matt LaFleur.

Speaker 1 If you want to watch Matt LaFleur, if you want to watch Matt LaFleur, you can do it on barstowgold.com slash PMT. Or watch the riot.
I mean, or watch the riot.

Speaker 1 The riot was lit fucking crazy and we it was jake got a little nervous did you pee your pants piss boy

Speaker 1 get out of here yeah trash

Speaker 4 i just rioted a little bit right there i'm sorry it's got a little residual riot a little extra riot it's tough to get used to all right so hot seat cool throw on hank why don't you start uh my hot seat is michael porter jr you guys remember him remember he's in the nba oh yeah i do has yet to play a minute his spine is made of dust and today there was a uh conference adam silver was talking to the denver Nuggets, and he tweeted out a picture of Silver on stage, not realizing that Adam Silver's phone number, his office phone number, and his email were on the screen.

Speaker 4 So he basically tweeted out to the entire world.

Speaker 1 He dox him. His cell phone was on there, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, cell phone, office phone, and email.

Speaker 1 What happened? What do you mean? Did people just blow him up? I'm sure. They were like, hey, Adam, let's make...

Speaker 1 I don't even know what idea, stupid idea. It's going around in NBA Reddit right now.
Yeah. I got, let's see, I think I actually wrote it down here earlier.
You want to try to call him? Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's try to call Adam Silver.

Speaker 4 I'm assuming it's changed at this point.

Speaker 1 We'll find out. He's probably going to go straight to voicemail.

Speaker 4 But yeah,

Speaker 4 that's got to be a tough, like, you've never played a minute in the league.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
He disconnected smartphones. You know what? That actually pisses me off because Adam Silver, like, he got doxxed, and that sucks.
But you know, he had someone deal with all that.

Speaker 1 You know? He didn't have to call Verizon. Spin zone, do you think he actually planned that? Like, he was cool with being doxed because he's the accessible commissioner? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's got something to hide. So he deliberately got his phone so that people aren't sniffing around the other stuff.
He's got his phone number. Interesting.
He smashed it. Interesting.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Just saying.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 a very convenient reason to smash your phone. Yeah.
And we saw him smash it. Yeah.
He smashed it right on stage.

Speaker 4 My other hot seat are all the people out there, all the AWLs who I'm sure thought that drinking bleach would cure cancer or autism.

Speaker 1 Whoa, what happened?

Speaker 4 The FDA came out and said for sure that drinking bleach will not cure cancer or autism.

Speaker 1 Okay, good to know. Good to know.
We got

Speaker 1 all the people listening.

Speaker 1 You have to inject it. That was tough.
All right, we had a bad, bad phase there.

Speaker 4 And then my cool throne is Forloco.

Speaker 1 Oh, which is similar to injecting bleach? Yep.

Speaker 4 Well, now they came out with a Spike Seltzer. So for all the people, you know, on the beach, whatever, they've also come out and they came out with a Forloco sex toy.

Speaker 1 Like, they went from being

Speaker 4 banned from the world to all of a sudden they're back.

Speaker 1 All right, hey. We're going to talk about it more.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. No, it was For Loco Fleshlight.
Yeah. But I'm probably

Speaker 1 sure that makes sense for dudes who just pound so much For Loco, they can't talk to women. Just can't stop pounding it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that the Forloco thing is fake. I'm very woke on this because there was no like link to the product whatsoever.

Speaker 1 It was a Photoshop that Forloco put out there of Forloco Spike Seltzer, and it said like the ultimate or the most extreme hard seltzer or something like that and it was 14% alcohol. Whoa.

Speaker 1 And here's why I think it's fake is because if you're going to make something 14% alcohol, why not just make it 20? True.

Speaker 1 Is there anybody out there that would drink a 14% for loco that wouldn't drink it 20%? Why not make it 50 and have it just be liquor?

Speaker 4 Hardest seltzer in the universe is a is a hard tagline.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm not so sure that it's real. Oh, so that's how, was it like, it's the hardest seltzer, you're going to get so hard.
Here's this flashlight. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 Basically. But that was my, I just did the marketing for for loco.
I'll send, I'll invoice you later. Fuck it.
I'm having a for loco.

Speaker 1 Yeah, damn, this hard seltzer will make you so hard, you're going to want to come in this piece of plastic.

Speaker 1 The hardest seltzer. It's the coolest thing you can do.
You ever go out for a night out with your boys, drink so much for loco, you just want to fuck a tube? Well,

Speaker 1 that's the thing, is if you actually finish a for loco, you're probably not going to be able to fuck. Right.
So the fleshlight gets used to it. Yeah, a fleshlight never gets used to it.

Speaker 1 The fleshlight never gets used. A flashlight's never like, does this happen often? That's true.
You're good. That's very true.
A flashlight just is cool.

Speaker 1 I was actually saying this is a great way for the fleshlight to retain its value. It's like a Star Wars figurine that you never take out of the package.
That's right. That's right.

Speaker 1 All right. Good job for Local.
We're Truly guys, by the way. Yeah.
Let's just throw that out there. Cause down.
Yeah. Truly.
Truly the best.

Speaker 1 Is that it, Hank? That's it. All set? Okay,

Speaker 1 my first hot seat is old school tough-ass football. Ooh.
Because Vic Fangio has banned hazing. He's banned rookie haircuts.
He's banned all that stuff. He's been singing at Broncos training camp.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Nice. This is like way, way back old school.
We're going so old school they didn't even know what hazing was. They're just like, you need to respect your fellow man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Older confused people.

Speaker 1 No, like I'm talking like 1903 Harvard-Yale, where they just bashed brains together with no helmets.

Speaker 1 Where people died

Speaker 1 nobly instead of cutting their hair. You don't have time to haze when you're not going to live past 35.
That's a good point. That's a very good point.
This is old, old school.

Speaker 1 But it also gave people a reason to tweet out the picture of Tim Tebow when he got to Monk hair.

Speaker 1 Love it. So I love to see that.
I think that you should be allowed to give one rookie a monk haircut per year. Yes, I agree.
That's not hazing. That's team building.
That's funny. Big difference.

Speaker 1 It's a difference. If it's funny, it's not hazing.
My other hot seat. Yeah.
If the people that are doing the hazing think that it's funny, then it's

Speaker 1 just a classic. legally that's not hazing if everyone's laughing except for the guy who's getting hazed.
Correct.

Speaker 1 My other hot seat is shitting. Okay.
Because Brazil's fascist president says that people should avoid pooping every day. They should poop every other day now if we want to save the planet.

Speaker 1 So that's going to be tough for me. I'm out.
Especially, yeah, and for that reason, I'm not voting for the fascist in Brazil. Yikes.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's ever been to a Brazilian steakhouse, but it's instant. Impossible.
Instant. Beat sweats.
Yes, yes. You can't help but shit within the hour.
Remember the one we went to in Vegas?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the waitress thought that I was a woman from behind and said, ma'am. Yeah, I don't know.
But I wasn't going to tell us. That's exactly why you're bringing it up.

Speaker 1 No, I was just going to ask if you remember that meal we shared. I'm saying, okay, whatever.
Yes, I do remember it. It was good, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 It happens not irregularly that I'll be sitting at a bar and somebody will approach me from behind, be like, excuse me, ma'am. And that's only natural because

Speaker 1 I've got the long hair and a great ass. I'm sorry.
Oh, man. All right.
What else? Most importantly, my great ass. My cool throne is the fat cats at DirecTV.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Because this is when the Sunday ticket bill hits. It was this week.
Shit. I didn't even know that.
Yeah, that's how they get you. You forget year by year.
Hey, fun fact. Football's back now, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, football is back. Fun fact.
We were supposed to have Direct TV in this office. That is a fun fact.
We moved in three months ago.

Speaker 4 I had a conversation, too, with one of the tech guys.

Speaker 1 I don't think we're getting it. No, I don't think so either.
I think the whole plan of watching every game here is gone, which is insane.

Speaker 1 We're building a gambling cave. So, fellas, where are we going to watch the games? Buffalo Wild Wings? Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 1 Busters. I get it.

Speaker 1 Ooh, Busters. Yeah.
We got to do one Sunday at Busters. Yeah, tell you what, we'll alternate B-dubs and Busters.
We'll do a watch party at Busters.

Speaker 1 Busters, give us some fucking cash, bro. Yeah, please.
Come on. My other cool throne is Deep Fakes.
You took it. Busters.

Speaker 1 What did you say? Or some tokens.

Speaker 1 That'd be great if we did an ad deal with Busters and they just gave us tokens. I'd take it.
Yeah, absolutely. 50,000 tokens.

Speaker 1 I will take my payment from Busters in tokens and in like little cheap keychains. I'll forego my $75,000 we get for every single episode of part of my take each and convert it all into Buster coins.

Speaker 1 That's worth like 75,001 Buster coins. Yes, exactly.
It's better banging for your bucks. All right, what's your other cool throne is Deepfakes.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see this video? No. It was a video from, I think it was Bill Hayter on, was he on Jay Leno show? One of them.
I was on one of of those shows a while ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was getting interviewed, and they seamlessly turned his face into Tom Cruise's face as he was doing a Tom Cruise impression, and then into Seth Rogan's face as he was doing a Seth Rogan impression, and then back, and then back, and then back, and then back and back and forth, like five times to the point where now I'm afraid, now I'm basically ready to admit that the robots have won.

Speaker 1 And so just like think of me as one of the good ones robots when you do take over the earth because I'm on your side now. Okay, so I'm thinking of it more glass half-full.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, we're at Barcelona Advisors this year.

Speaker 1 We're getting the. Well, I'm not even thinking about that.
We're already, we're working on it.

Speaker 4 You think what I'm thinking? What?

Speaker 1 Christian Yalich, if he wins a Homer Derby, deep fake. Oh, there you go.
I do like that. Look at that part.
That's really good. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's really good. I love it.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Deep fakes. All right, so we're back.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat is going to be a bit more freaking. Go deep fakes.
My hot seat is Fredo. You can't say Fredo anymore.
So Chris Cromo was videotaped. Thank you for remembering Chromo.

Speaker 1 Everyone thinks that he's got a new nickname. No, it's still Cromo.
It is Chris Cromo. He's a guy on CNN? LeVar Ball.
Vox?

Speaker 1 He's on CNN. LeVar Ball.
CNN. He flipped his game on him and said, people call you Cromo.
Yeah. Okay, Chromo.

Speaker 1 So he was,

Speaker 1 I don't know, he got in a fight with some guy. He went real aggro, and he said, calling me Fredo is like using the N-word

Speaker 1 for Italians. And I don't, I didn't think that, but now we can't say Fredo.
I thought just the N-word was the Italian version of calling people the N-word.

Speaker 1 Italians love Fredo. right, yeah.
But no, it's Fredo. Interesting.
It's Fredo. So you cannot call anyone by the name of a fictional character that's a total fuck-up and went against the family.

Speaker 1 I did like how upset that he got, though. Like, he was ready to fight.
Very upset. I love that.
Fredo. I wish he had fought.
Actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 The more I think about it, the more I don't like that he got that upset because if you're going to get that pissed off and not fight, then what are we doing here? He was acting like Sonny.

Speaker 1 Then what are we... Yeah, he wasn't.
He wasn't afraid. Don't call him Sonny.
Yeah, that's right. That's all.

Speaker 1 He was an S-word. Yes.
He was acting like a real S-word instead of an F-word.

Speaker 1 He was acting like a real big pussy. So that's in the...

Speaker 1 Not like the

Speaker 1 misogynistic term. No, the guy from the Sopranos.
No, but he fucking ratted everyone out. Yeah, he got killed in season two.
That's the guy he was acting like. Right, but that's also a slur.

Speaker 1 Big pussy? Yeah. Who finds Big Pussy? Dude, he ratted.
I'm not talking about Cod selling H. I'm not talking about

Speaker 1 the genitals. I'm talking about the guy.

Speaker 1 That is a slur. Because Fredo went against the family, so did Big Pussy.
So we can't say Big Pussy anymore. No.
So we'll call every Italian guy Polly Walnuts. Okay.
So everyone loves Pauli.

Speaker 1 All right, my cool throne. I got two.
One is, well, actually, it's me both ways. Me,

Speaker 1 myself as the anti-vaxxer. My son's getting vaccinated tomorrow.
First vaccination. That must be very tough.

Speaker 1 I'm out on the anti-vaxxers. Sorry.
Sorry. I know people were like waiting with bated breath, hoping that I would join Jenny McCarthy and Kristen Cavallari and other people who have

Speaker 1 high-minded individuals that are the cutting edge of science. I'm not.
So this is officially putting the nail in the coffin of your friendship with Jay then? Probably. Yeah.
This is probably

Speaker 1 the needle in my son's arm. The needle that ended our relationship.
And then my other is myself as well, because I had to go to Home Depot. Humble cat.
Well, listen to this.

Speaker 1 You guys will like this because I think this is relatable. I had to go to Home Depot.
I successfully went to Home Depot and got what I needed without asking anyone.

Speaker 1 And there's no better feeling in the world. You feel like the manliest man that's ever walked earth when you can walk into Home Depot.
It took me a while.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, were you stubborn about it? No, I was very stubborn about it. Very, very stubborn.

Speaker 1 It took me way too long, but still, doing that thing where you just cannot ask, because you know, you can ask, and Home Depot people, they know right away.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, back, you know, back left corner of aisle 17. But I didn't ask, and I successfully did it.
It took me about 25 minutes to find the wood glue, but I did did it.

Speaker 1 You know what the best feeling is when you're doing that, and somebody else asks you where something is, and you can tell them. You help them out in Home Depot.
You're like, oh, I know.

Speaker 1 And then on the way back, there, you're like, what are you building?

Speaker 1 And then you pretend to know how to help them. I did that a couple times.
It's the best. You just gave some really bad advice.
It's a big time alpha off when you go into Home Depot.

Speaker 1 You feel yourself. I get the feeling that there are people that just walk around Home Depot all day waiting to be asked those questions

Speaker 1 that don't actually work there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They just, it's the love of the game. Exactly.
Yeah. Absolutely.
All right. Let's do our Mount Rushmore before we do that.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushmore. So this one we're doing a little different.
It is the Mount Rushmore. So Magic Johnson's turning 60 tomorrow.

Speaker 4 He today. Happy birthday, Magic.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Magic. He, for his 60th birthday, decided to release a few few lists, four lists, his top 60 favorites.

Speaker 1 And he did Magic's top 60 films, Magic's top 60 athletes that turned entrepreneurs, Magic's top 60 places to travel, Magic's top 60 TV shows. Now, he released these lists.

Speaker 1 You'd think, hey, I'd put my favorite show at the top. No, then you wouldn't know Magic because he released them in alphabetical order.
Except for The Godfather was number one of the movies.

Speaker 1 LeBron got to him on that one. Yeah, LeBron got him.
And also, I don't know if you saw the top 60 shows, Three Stooges. The Three Stooges was number two.
Yeah, he moved that up to second place.

Speaker 1 Left 21 Jump Street in first place because it's a numeral. But yeah, he's a big The Three Stooges fan.
Yeah, so what we're going to do is this is going to be: you can use any of the four lists.

Speaker 1 We're going to do our Mount Rush more of selections off of Magic Johnson's four lists. And the wrinkle is in the Spirit of Magic's list, we have to do it alphabetically.

Speaker 1 So each list, each of our lists has to be alphabetical. So the top is going to be, it's going to be interesting when we get to the bottom of the list.
You ready, Hank? I'm ready. Because you're first.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah.
So you really ready?

Speaker 4 I am ready because, I mean, he had like his TV and movie choices were

Speaker 1 really bad. Something.
Really bad.

Speaker 4 But he had Chappelle show on there. Shit.

Speaker 1 Greatest show of all time.

Speaker 4 Undeniably the number one pick. I think we all had that as number one.

Speaker 1 Chappelle show is really good. Yep.
It's a strong one. Damn it.

Speaker 1 Also, I realize this, but making your rankings in alphabetic order is a great way to never leave Beyonce off the list and never piss off the beehive. She's always going to be near the top.
That sucks.

Speaker 1 All right. That was going to be my first pick.
God damn it. All right.
I'll go with my first pick.

Speaker 1 I'll go with the Bahamas. Great place to visit.
Okay. The Bahamas.

Speaker 4 Was just there on vacation.

Speaker 1 It was amazing. Yeah, of course you were.
A couple times.

Speaker 1 Bahamas are nice, though. Yeah, beautiful place.
Beautiful place. PFT, you have two.
Okay, I'm going to go with

Speaker 1 Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 Good pig. Not the drugs part.
Yum. Definitely the drug part.

Speaker 1 The life experience part. The museums part.

Speaker 4 On mushrooms.

Speaker 1 Not the drugs. Jake, make sure it's written not.
Parentheses, not the drugs part.

Speaker 1 Number two, I'm going to go with A-Rod.

Speaker 1 Also, not the drugs part. Ooh.
Besides the drugs part. You're really hitting the A's.
Yeah. Hammering the A's.
You got to get to them.

Speaker 1 All right. I got to do.
I'm really bad at the fucking alphabet.

Speaker 4 You didn't do it in advance?

Speaker 1 No, I did, but I kind of went all over the place.

Speaker 1 Did I correct a rod from you? No, no, no, no, you did not. You did not.
Trouble in paradise.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm working on his case. We'll get to it in a minute.

Speaker 1 What does that have to do with Mel Rush for the money?

Speaker 1 I'm worried about his net worth right now. He doesn't show you.
As an entrepreneur, he lost $500,000. He got stolen.
All right, I'll go my second pick.

Speaker 1 Goodfellas. Okay.

Speaker 1 You had to make sure that was

Speaker 1 tough. I was having trouble there.
Okay, good fellas. I got two.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Django Unchained.

Speaker 1 Okay. Great film.

Speaker 4 Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Speaker 1 I use the word Fredo a lot in there. Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll go with my third pick. I'll go MJ, Michael Jordan.
Okay. Solid pick.
Yep. My third, I'm going to go Ray Allen.
Woo! Yeah, I think we all know why.

Speaker 1 I think we all know why. And my fourth pick, I'm going to go with The Wire.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Because if you're a sports writer, you have to have some sort of inclusion of the wire in every single thing that you do. Specifically for today, I'm going to go season two of the wire.

Speaker 1 Ooh, nice, nice, very topical.

Speaker 4 All my knowledge of the unions was from season two of the wire.

Speaker 1 I'll finish mine with the Sopranos. Easy fourth pick for me.
All right, Hank, what's your fourth?

Speaker 1 Maui. Maui.
Maui, Hank. That's a good one.
Loading up on beaches. Forget Maui.
Get those beaches.

Speaker 4 I've never actually been there, but I want to go. It's on my vacation destination list.

Speaker 1 Why do you want to go to Maui so much?

Speaker 4 I just heard Hawaii is a great place to go. It is.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 4 I just love the way in The Rock, when Sean Connor says, forget Maui. It's great.

Speaker 1 Okay, that really stuck with you. Yeah.
What did we miss? John Madden was a miss. I mean, him having Triple X.
Yeah, John Madden. John Madden was on there.

Speaker 4 Him having Triple X as a top 60 movie is like,

Speaker 4 he must have only seen 60 movies in his life.

Speaker 1 I chose to believe that that one was just porn. He wasn't talking about Triple X.
He was just like,

Speaker 1 he should have just written X Hamster.

Speaker 4 He might have been thinking of the Fast and Furious movies.

Speaker 4 Triple X.

Speaker 1 I got a question.

Speaker 1 Stunner. What has Keyshawn Johnson done as an entrepreneur? He's on TV and on the radio.
Okay. All right.
That plays. That plays.

Speaker 1 Tony Hawk was one that

Speaker 1 caught my eye.

Speaker 1 Also, here's an interesting thing. At number 31 in his list of Magic's top 60 films, he has The Born Identity.
So he moved that one around, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 And that's a classic Magic pick right there. Yeah.
The Mary Tyler Moore show. Way to date yourself there, Magic.
The Oprah Winfrey Show. Pander Much.
Did he put his own show in there?

Speaker 1 No, he didn't. The Magic House.
That was a great show.

Speaker 4 Also, a lot of these entrepreneurs,

Speaker 1 unless they're secret entrepreneurs, like, what are these people doing?

Speaker 4 Like, what you said with Keyshawn Johnson, like, I feel like a lot of these players just retired and are golfing.

Speaker 1 I think if you have a podcast, you're an entrepreneur. That's it.
That's it. Because

Speaker 1 Dale Earnhardt's on there.

Speaker 4 Oh, fuck. I didn't even realize he had Brady on there.
That's a huge mess.

Speaker 1 Wow, wow.

Speaker 1 Someone in Paradise.

Speaker 1 Also, Also, Tyroff.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Isaiah Thomas is an entrepreneur in sexual harassment lawsuits.

Speaker 1 He's a job creator because he... What is he even an entrepreneur? He freaks out so many female coworkers that there are a lot of open jobs.

Speaker 1 Let's see, what other weird movies. Yeah, why is Ray Allen a job? Why is he an entrepreneur? I have no idea.
I have no idea. He has a book.
It looks like he exclusively golfs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has a book, so I guess that counts.

Speaker 1 Hank makes a good point, though. If you spend enough time on the golf course, people just assume that you're an entrepreneur.
Get a podcast. You must be CEO of something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, boom, you're an entrepreneur. There it goes.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah. I don't know what else he has on here.
A lot of just weird things. I feel like I know what type of fan he is, but then he'll throw in a curveball.
He's got scandal on there.

Speaker 1 He's got the Matrix. Also, here's what's weird about his top 60 TV shows.
He has Judge Judy.

Speaker 1 I should have picked that. God damn it.
Judge Judy, Judge Mathis, and The People Squad. This is a big daytime.
And Law and Order and Law and Order SVU. Yeah.
He hammered that. Fuck it.
Hammered it.

Speaker 4 Tom, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Actually, the more I look at this, the more the list is just really well done. Yeah, really, really well done.
Yeah, Hank, you're going to be living with that for a while. Yeah.
For a while.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady. Damn.
That sucks, Hank. Julian, play this part for Tom.
Oh, no, he's listening. Let him know that Julian, Hank has forgotten about him.
He had Tom Brady. He had him easily.

Speaker 1 He could have picked him at any point, pretty much, right? Yeah. He had him.

Speaker 1 honorable. He wasn't even.
Technically, he wasn't even an honorable mention because you had to bring him up. I didn't even go through the list.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was just going through the list and realized that I missed it. Damn, that's a tough one.
That's on me. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's get to tell us which ones you think we missed the cut of Magic Johnson's top 60.

Speaker 1 We need to put this out there on the Mount Rushmore quote board with as little explanation as possible. Just Magic's favorite things.
Yeah, because

Speaker 1 the lists are so stupid. I think Jason

Speaker 1 minds of Bahamas Goodfellas, Michael Jordan, and the Sopranos. That makes no sense.
You didn't have Bahamas. Yeah, I did.
I thought Hank had Bahamas. No, I did.

Speaker 1 All these beaches.

Speaker 4 Yeah, a lot of beach. I think Jake should go through this list and list what these entrepreneurs have done post-career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could use that.

Speaker 4 I feel like 35 of them.

Speaker 1 But you know what? We'll get fucked with that because like Keyshawn, he's going to be like he has 75 Jamba juices in South Florida, and then we're going to look like assholes. So don't do that.

Speaker 1 Ray Allen's probably getting residual checks from He Got Game. Yes, so that counts as a job.
100% is. All right, let's get to our interview with Matt LaFleur.

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Okay, here he is. Green Bay Packers head coach, Matt LaFleur.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a guest. It is

Speaker 1 Packers coach Matt LaFleur. Oh, a what guest? A guest.
Very special. It is a guest.
Appreciate it. Matt LaFleur, head coach of the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 We're going to get into a lot of stuff but we got to start with the achilles and the boot that you're wearing get it out of the way what the hell were you doing uh going hard on the basketball court over 30 years old don't you know better i don't know better what what move like tore your achilles it's incredible

Speaker 5 no actually we were playing knockout oh no i will say i was in the final two okay out of how many oh we have a good crew we had a lot of we had a lot of coaches that play i mean there's sometimes there's almost 20 guys down there so i was in the final two but uh i think i actually airballed the shot we're playing from the side

Speaker 5 that's the worst make it interesting we play half court knockout okay you were going too hard well no i just missed a shot i went to get a rebound and

Speaker 5 it felt like somebody hit me in the the back of the leg yeah back and of course nobody's around me and i knew i pretty much knew right away what had happened that's one of those injuries though that was going going to happen no matter what like at some point i think i I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think that's

Speaker 1 the most common injury for guys who keep playing basketball after the age of 30 is their Achilles.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, I hear you. It's amazing, though, how many people I've met that said the same thing happened to them.

Speaker 1 Does there need to be some sort of contract stipulation for coaches like there are for players? Like, you can't do this in the offseason, keep you in shape?

Speaker 5 I'd rather have it to me than

Speaker 5 the players.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. Are you going to be at all in that walking boot on the sidelines for

Speaker 5 hopefully

Speaker 5 you know, week one, I'll be out of the boot. Okay.

Speaker 5 The thing I really want to talk about is that bears hat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You see it. I don't like it.
I'm looking right at it.

Speaker 1 You want to get into it right away? Sure. All right.
So you got the job in January.

Speaker 1 The schedule came out, what, in May, maybe? Since May, how many times have you woken up in just a sweat being like Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Khalil Mack, he is a threat to blow up every play, no doubt about it. And you better have a plan for him, otherwise he can wreck a game.
But it's not just Khalil Mack.

Speaker 5 They've got a lot of good players on that defense. And I mean, Hicks is a game wrecker as well.
And

Speaker 5 certainly we know the challenge that's in front of us week one.

Speaker 1 In all seriousness, are you excited that it's a rivalry game to start off?

Speaker 1 Or were you kind of hoping maybe let's throw out the, I don't know, let's play the Bucs in Tampa Bay week one, maybe ease my way into my head coaching career.

Speaker 1 Because it is prime time, first NFL game, rivalry game. It's going to be bright lights right away.

Speaker 5 There's no doubt about it, but I will say this about this league:

Speaker 5 you better take every game like you're playing the world champion. And if you don't, this is a humbling league that will put you down in a hurry.
So every game's important.

Speaker 1 Is there any additional pressure knowing that you've got like 50,000 extra owners that you have to respond to?

Speaker 1 Did you go to the owners' meeting?

Speaker 5 I did not go to the owner's meeting. You know, oh, the owner's meeting in terms of

Speaker 1 Green Bay package. Oh, no, no.
Stock. No.

Speaker 5 No, we had practice. So we had a team meeting.
So I couldn't make the owner's meeting.

Speaker 1 Our fish actually owns the team. He has a

Speaker 1 shared place. Yes, he does.

Speaker 5 I've met a lot of owners since I've been in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 He's already putting pressure on you. A lot of owners.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do own. We technically are fathers of an owner.
So our fish does have a stock.

Speaker 1 So we've talked to some of your buddies, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannon, have both been on the show. They are young head coaches.
Have you felt a little of like the pressure of, okay, you're 39.

Speaker 1 Most, you know, in the NFL history, it's usually an older guy gets a head coaching job. Have you, I see you got the stubble with little gray hair.
Is that on purpose?

Speaker 5 Well, actually, the grays have really been filling in lately. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's on purpose, though, because do you notice it, though, maybe in the locker room? Is it hard to people look at you, maybe like, hey, this guy's more my age than coaches I've had in the past?

Speaker 5 You know, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 I just try to go and do the best job I can on a daily basis and, you know, communicate with our players and making sure that

Speaker 5 I hear their concerns and take those into consideration when we're making decisions. But ultimately, we're always going to make decisions in the best interest of the team.

Speaker 5 But I don't think you can put any type of age on leadership.

Speaker 5 Like you said, I saw Sean firsthand and I thought he did as good a job as anybody I've been around in terms of getting the respect and the command from the team.

Speaker 1 Your beard's much stronger than his. Like, right off the jump, I can tell you, like, that's an alpha beard.

Speaker 1 I actually, I have to apologize to you because the first time we met was at the Combine, and Sean McVay used me as, like, a useful idiot to fuck with you a little bit.

Speaker 1 He sent me up to you to introduce myself, and then he was, like, telling me he didn't like his play calling in week 17 against the Colts. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 And then I looked at your face, and you looked so sad. And I was like, shit, you know what? Sean just used me as like psychological warfare

Speaker 1 against you. So I'd like to offer you the opportunity.
Do you want me to just hit him in the nuts next time I see him? Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 5 He deserves it. He deserves it.
He deserves a job. He used to abuse me when I was an assistant for him.

Speaker 1 What would he do?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? What would he do to like?

Speaker 5 So we're pretty close, right?

Speaker 5 And so I just think, you know, you kind of, if you're close with people, you tend to let your guard down a little bit and can take out some of your frustrations on the ones that you're closest to.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 because you know they're always going to have your back in the end.

Speaker 5 Kyle was the same way. Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Did Sean McVay's photographic memory ever piss you off? I feel like that'd be so annoying to be around.

Speaker 5 It's pretty ridiculous. Right.
His memory is unlike anybody I've ever been around.

Speaker 5 And it's funny because whenever we had team meetings, he'd always quiz the guys on just kind of some of the culture stuff that we'd talk about.

Speaker 5 And as soon as he started asking questions, you can hear every notebook in the room opening up. And I'm like, Sean, you're the only guy that can memorize all this stuff, man.

Speaker 5 The rest of us got to write this down because nobody wanted to get embarrassed in front of the team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you go out to Tennessee and you coach with one of our other guys, Mike Vrabel. Who's a bigger bro? Mike Vrabel or McVay?

Speaker 5 A bigger bro? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who's more bro-y?

Speaker 5 I mean, like, that's a.

Speaker 5 You got to, you got to go with Vrabel.

Speaker 1 You have to. Yeah.
He's a guy's guy.

Speaker 5 No, but Sean's a guy's guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Vrabel's a guy's dude.

Speaker 5 Nah, Sean's a guy's dude, too. That's my guy.
You're talking about one of my best friends in life.

Speaker 1 You guys still keep in touch pretty closely?

Speaker 5 I thought you meant more of who's going to go

Speaker 5 rec shop if somebody.

Speaker 1 Yes. Mike Rabel's that guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 He won't turn anything now.

Speaker 1 Did you guys joke at all about, you know, obviously you had to have seen the internet ran wild with, hey, if you had a beer with Sean McVay, you got a head coaching job.

Speaker 1 I mean, you saw it, right? I would assume. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 5 everybody talks about about that. So, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Does Sean, I mean, does Sean kind of make funny, like, does he razz you guys because he's like, hey, you're not, I'm a kingmaker here.

Speaker 5 No, I think, honestly, I think he's,

Speaker 5 Sean's a, he's a pretty humble guy, and I think it's almost embarrassing. He's always like, stop, stop,

Speaker 5 whenever anything like that, you know, comes up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So now you're in charge.
This is like your first camp that you're running on your own. I've always wondered, like, you're trying to get control of this whole team.

Speaker 1 What are your policies on fighting in camp?

Speaker 5 No tolerance.

Speaker 1 There we go. Zero.

Speaker 5 Zero tolerance.

Speaker 1 At all?

Speaker 1 At all.

Speaker 5 You fight, you're out.

Speaker 1 You sit out the rest of that practice for the day?

Speaker 5 Yeah, just for the day.

Speaker 5 You know, like, and don't get me wrong, skirmishes are going to happen.

Speaker 5 It's just, you don't want to see haymakers being thrown, especially when it's your own teammate. You know, you got to protect.
We always talk about putting the team first and

Speaker 5 taking care of each other. And that's just something that the guys have done a really good job with throughout camp.

Speaker 1 Right. Even if it's against the other team, even if like J.J.
Watt is starting to milk a hip injury a little bit too much.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you know, like we had an incident, Bruce Houston, where one of our guys got laid out pretty good, and

Speaker 5 our guys came to his defense, but there were no punches thrown.

Speaker 1 Probably smart. Have you, so Green Bay obviously is a very unique place and a unique town because it is a small town with just a football stadium in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 Have you had that experience yet yet where you're at the grocery store and people will stop you? And, you know, because

Speaker 1 it's not like playing in or coaching in New York or LA or Chicago. You are with the people basically every day.
Have you had that moment yet?

Speaker 5 I haven't gone to a grocery store. Oh.
So, you know, I'm married, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I know, but I don't know. Maybe you have to go get the groceries.
I don't know. You got to go grab the milk.
Got to get a toilet paper. Yeah.
Yeah, no, honestly.

Speaker 5 So, like, the first few months that I lived here, I stayed at Lodge Kohler, and we have such a fantastic setup here with everything you really need so i'd i'd wake up in the morning i'd walk across or i'd drive across the street go to work drive back across the street go to bed i mean that was the extent of it you know i've been out to restaurants and whatnot but the people here are pretty respectful of your of your privacy they're good people here

Speaker 1 you call it soda or pop

Speaker 1 i call it soda yeah we got to work on that i know it's midwest is probably more pop it would definitely endear you to to the local community if you just started tossing out a pop every now also if you gained like a population, I can do either.

Speaker 1 Put on 50 pounds, and you could be a Packer coach for life. Ooh, also,

Speaker 1 is that a prerequisite? I mean, you are a little too.

Speaker 1 What are you trying to prove with your weight right now? Like, you think you're better than everyone?

Speaker 5 Actually, I look kind of sloppy right now because I haven't been able to work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I know there's probably some muscles under that shirt.

Speaker 1 What are you going to go to the beach? Come on. It is true that the Packers have a little bit of a

Speaker 1 long history of coaches that are well insulated against the cold. Here's two other tips for being a Packers coach since you're new at it.
In the preseason, just tell everybody the tight end position.

Speaker 1 We're going to really utilize the tight end position this year. That happens like every single year in the past.
Aaron Rodgers finally has his tight end.

Speaker 1 That and also we have a running back this year. If you can just say those two things and prep for the season, you're good.

Speaker 5 We are going to do that.

Speaker 1 There you go. Tell me about

Speaker 1 how you're going to pass it back. I know why Sean liked you.
Tell me about how the Packers are going to use the tight end position this year.

Speaker 5 We're going to utilize them both in the run and the pass. They're going to be a weapon for us.

Speaker 1 Here's another one. Change your name to Mike.

Speaker 1 Because the Packers, I think it's like maybe 20 games in the last 30 years that has been coached by a guy not named Mike. So you should change your name to Mike.

Speaker 5 That's my brother's name, so I can't do that.

Speaker 1 Maybe

Speaker 1 swap your brother out. He coaches.

Speaker 1 We could do that. Where is he right now?

Speaker 5 He's with Kyle in San Francisco. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he might be the guy that you need to bring in here. Just be like, we got a Mike on staff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we could try to get him.

Speaker 1 I've also noticed you guys, all the reports coming out of training camp are that you're using the fullback as a weapon this year.

Speaker 5 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 You love Danny Vitale. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Danny's been awesome.

Speaker 1 So what is,

Speaker 1 I guess fullback has kind of been phased out of the NFL over the course of the last 10 years, but there are some teams like Cows bring it back a little bit in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 G-Sick?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. How are you guys using it?

Speaker 5 Very similar. I mean, we want to be a 21, we want to be able to run

Speaker 5 everything out of 21 personnel. And, you know, a lot of teams don't see that anymore.
So it is a little bit of

Speaker 5 an advantage, especially if you get a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield, similar to how they use Juice in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 And really, both Danny and Malcolm Johnson have done a great job for us.

Speaker 6 I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber One for students.
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Speaker 5 None of the above.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right.
So, no, but seriously, how is your relationship? I know it's under a microscope.

Speaker 1 I know, it's under a microscope.

Speaker 1 And I was wondering from what you've learned in the past, because there was the famous Kyle Shanahan, Matt Ryan, maybe not on the same page, go get a beer, boom, he wins the MVP, and you guys go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Have you had...

Speaker 5 I've had a lot of beers with Aaron.

Speaker 1 Yeah, have you had the? No, but have you had the moment where you guys have sat down, just the two of you, talking shop and getting on the same page like that?

Speaker 5 Honestly, we have those all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, we try to, it's just getting to know each other, getting to know, you know, what he likes, what he feels comfortable with within our scheme.

Speaker 5 But, you know, just when we first started off, it was more about implementing our scheme so he understands it and then trying to take things that he's done really well in his past, which there are a lot of them, and then how do they fit within our offense?

Speaker 5 And I think it's coming along good. It's still, we're still not there yet, but I think we're on our way.

Speaker 1 Do you like recognize the fact that basically you're going to be under a microscope from the bleacher report article that was written and everything that finished last year that no matter what like you have to be ready if you guys even look at each other the wrong way on the sidelines i'm going to be tweeting that video and be like trouble in paradise yeah yeah well i got eyes i i will be honest with you i i did not read that bleacher report report article and I just don't have time for that, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 Were you concerned at all when you saw the video of Aaron trying to chug a beer at the Bucks game and he only got like a third of the way down? Was that a big red flag?

Speaker 5 No, no. He's a Scotch guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 He said that. But then you see Baker going out there biting into a can with his teeth and pounding it.
There's not like a little bit. I didn't see that.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He shotgunned it by biting the shotgun hole with his teeth. See, you're impressed.
You're already impressed by that. I got to give you a compliment, which I don't want to do.

Speaker 1 You've done a really good job of becoming an NFL coach and saying you haven't seen anything on social media or whatever. That's smart of you.

Speaker 5 I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Just being like, oh, I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
I don't read that. That's smart.
Because I know you do, but it's smart. I only read what you got.

Speaker 5 Honestly, one of the few apps that I even use is the Barstall app. Okay.

Speaker 1 I love that. All right, and you better listen to part of my take because I'm going to bash the Packers all year long.
I love it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's a fun game we play. It's called Explain in Detail What the First 15 Plays Will Like on September 5th.

Speaker 5 Explain in detail?

Speaker 1 We ask this every coach. Every single coach.

Speaker 5 So we give the game plan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. In detail.
What do we run in first play? I don't know.

Speaker 5 You guys are going to have to wait and see. Okay.

Speaker 1 You got a little something up your sleeve? Nobody ever runs a flea flicker first play.

Speaker 5 Actually, a buddy of mine has been trying to tell me to do that for years. Okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's great until it doesn't work. Interesting.
You know,

Speaker 5 it sounds great. Yeah.
It looks like a great. Until Khalil Mack is in the backfield sacking the quarterback before he gets the ball.

Speaker 1 When you guys make it to the Super Bowl, can we get a suite? Sean told us we could have one last year.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he said that we could also call the first play.
We won't ask you for the first play.

Speaker 5 We're just trying to take care of the Bears week one. Yeah.
One game at a time.

Speaker 1 Give me a prediction next year that we'll hold you to.

Speaker 5 I don't make it. 10-6.

Speaker 1 I can't do it.

Speaker 1 You got to go. 10-6.
Okay, better than 10-6. I mean, come on.

Speaker 5 I just, I mean, one week at a time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can we go back to the Super Bowl real quick? I know it was obviously painful, but

Speaker 1 what...

Speaker 1 What lessons did you learn from that game? You were the quarterbacks coach for Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 And if you could have done anything different, obviously, you're not calling the plays in that situation, situation, but I would assume you're in the conversation and how everything went down.

Speaker 1 Like, did you replay that many, many times in your head?

Speaker 5 I think we all have. You know, certainly if hindsight's 2020, and in the moment, you're trying to do the best job you can.

Speaker 5 And the one thing I've always said is, you know, the way Kyle called plays all year was aggressive, and it worked for us. And he did a great job.

Speaker 5 We wouldn't have been there without that type of mindset and mentality.

Speaker 5 And don't get me wrong, we had unbelievable players when you have Matt Ryan, when you have Julio Jones, Devontae Freeman, Mo Senu, Alex Mack.

Speaker 5 We had a lot of really great players, but you know, we were aggressive and it didn't pan out and it is what it is.

Speaker 1 I'm also interested in talking a little bit about your years in Washington.

Speaker 1 So you were the quarterbacks coach for both Kirk Cousins and RG3 that year, which I imagine, to your credit, you did a very good job developing both of them, but those are two very different quarterbacks that you were coaching that year.

Speaker 1 Like, when you have two guys like that that you're working with, one steps in for the other, how did you decide, okay, which elements are we keeping from Robert Griffin's offense, which is like taking the league by storm, and trying to adapt them to Kirk Cousins, which is like a totally different quarterback?

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, that's a great question.

Speaker 5 Thank you. That is a great question.

Speaker 5 You know, so like we took the whole offseason really studying what Robert had done at Baylor, and we were trying to figure out how we could implement that and still do

Speaker 5 our

Speaker 5 core run concepts as well as our past concepts. And it's really a credit to Kyle just putting that whole thing together and having that vision of what we could come up with.

Speaker 5 And really, it was a pretty seamless transition, believe it or not, when we went from going from Robert to Kirk because the only thing that we kind of eliminated was a lot of the zone read stuff.

Speaker 5 But a lot of the same concepts from a past game

Speaker 5 were just done with different actions. And then from a running game standpoint, it's not like we just majored in zone read.
We still ran our outside zone.

Speaker 5 But we just took a little bit, obviously, took a little bit less of the zone read element when Kirk was separate.

Speaker 1 It also helped that you were playing the Browns that game. That was like a nice bonus.
It's like Kirk Cousins' first game. It's going to be against a team that's going to be a good one.

Speaker 1 It started off rough. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It started off rough. I think we had like three, three and outs in a row.

Speaker 1 So, like, pulling back the curtain a little bit on how an offensive coaching staff works, when you're a quarterbacks coach, how much input do you get in the game plan?

Speaker 1 Is it very much back and forth with the offensive coordinator, or does the offensive coordinator come up with a game plan and then you're just like, okay, this is it.

Speaker 1 We're going to just practice this?

Speaker 5 No, so it's been pretty similar wherever I've been in terms of everybody's got an area of expertise that they're working on.

Speaker 5 And,

Speaker 5 you know, I think as a a coordinator, you're always open to listening to everybody's ideas.

Speaker 5 And then it's just your responsibility to decipher: okay, how does this fit within the framework of our offense and how we're trying to attack that particular defense?

Speaker 1 Now, switching now to your head coaching job, by the way, we're in the Packers media room, which is right by where there's a lot of, I don't know what's going on out there.

Speaker 1 They're moving stuff around.

Speaker 5 Always, something always going on out there.

Speaker 1 They're hard at work. So

Speaker 1 switching now to being a head coach, has it been different or difficult to have to take a step back a little bit when it comes to your area of expertise or being maybe like micromanaging pieces that you can't do anymore because now you're the head coach and you're in charge of everyone?

Speaker 5 Yeah, no,

Speaker 5 I'm kind of maneuvering through that right now.

Speaker 5 I feel really good about the staff we were able to hire with Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Goetze, you know, that Luke had been here before as a receiver coach, and that helped kind of with the transition in terms of how we're implementing some stuff that they've done in the past here.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 no, I've got good people around me. Adam Stenovich is our O-line coach.
He came from San Francisco, so he was in our, he's been in this scheme before he really takes a load off with the run game.

Speaker 5 And same with Justin Onton, who was in Atlanta

Speaker 5 for the past three years. Now he's our tight end coach.
So we've got a lot of good guys around me to to kind of help, you know, navigate through that whole process of game planning.

Speaker 5 And to be quite honest, in the preseason, there's not a whole lot of game planning going on. You know, you're more or less running

Speaker 5 your core concepts, just your

Speaker 5 base foundation of an offense. But as we progress into the season, that's where more of that's going to come into play.
And, you know, I know there's going to be more

Speaker 5 requirements in terms of like media requests and all that stuff. Oh, yeah.
I just got to figure out how we're going to navigate. We're going to be a nightmare for you guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. The big chase out there.
Bitch. We're going to come after you.

Speaker 1 Are you going to keep the... I heard, I can't remember who told us that Mike McCarthy, he used to do a thing where if the Packers were on a losing streak, they would stay at a worse and worse hotel.

Speaker 1 Are you going to keep that tradition alive? No. Okay.
So five classes. So your team's soft.

Speaker 5 If that's what you want to call it. No, we're going to try to.
Ritz Carlton. You know what? I don't handle the team travel.

Speaker 1 It's actually an awesome move by him. I loved hearing that.
Who told us that story? I have no idea. Someone told us.
I drump that. No, I swear to God.

Speaker 1 You definitely made that up. If you back it up, I'm getting a no.

Speaker 1 I maybe made that up. I've made it up.
Okay, well, then I'm a genius because that's a good move. If your team's doing bad, make them stay in a shitty hotel.

Speaker 5 Have you coordinated the travel?

Speaker 1 Okay, great. You guys not make any game time.

Speaker 1 Sorry, connecting flights to all your games. Are you still doing the Lombardi time?

Speaker 1 Is it Lombardi time or Coughlin time?

Speaker 5 No, it's be on time.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 being early.

Speaker 5 Now, so we say be on time, be prepared. So if a meeting starts at 9 a.m.,

Speaker 5 you better be in your seat ready to go at 9 a.m.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What about the standard? Is the standard the standard?

Speaker 5 The standard is always the standard.

Speaker 1 What does that mean?

Speaker 5 It means there's the standard, and

Speaker 5 it's the standard. It is.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have like a slogan that you're putting on the back of your t-shirts?

Speaker 5 No, not yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The standard is the standard is the standard.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's we got that from Sean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he got it from Anthony Lynn, who got it from Mike Tomlin, who got it from some dude who was super high.

Speaker 5 Hey, that's all we do in this league. Everybody, it's a copycat league.

Speaker 1 You guys heard that? Yeah. All right.
I wanted to ask you a question about my favorite college football conference in the world. That's the Mac.

Speaker 5 You're a big Mac.

Speaker 1 I love MACs and

Speaker 1 played for Mac School.

Speaker 5 What is I did not play for Macion? Well, I guess I did, but I did play play.

Speaker 1 Okay, but you were at a Mac School. I was.
And then then you also coached a little at a Mac school. Yes.
So

Speaker 1 what is it about the Mac? Because you could go down the list, like Nick Sabin,

Speaker 1 Brian Kelly, Irvin Meyer. Yeah, Miami, Ohio, the Cradle Coaches.

Speaker 1 The Cradle Coach Sean McVay. Sean,

Speaker 1 Woody Hayes.

Speaker 1 Right. So it's actually incredible when you look at it and you're like, this little conference has all these coaches.
What is it about the Mac?

Speaker 5 And like, maybe it's the hunger in the coaches or whatever it may be produces all these guys that's a great question thank you i've never thought about it yeah i think i don't know i think a lot of guys just start out early in their career at a lower level

Speaker 5 and not that the mac's

Speaker 5 i mean it's still decent lower level

Speaker 1 you don't see other small conferences producing the type of talent in the coaching world that the mac does yeah i don't know i don't know if it's coincidence or i think it's just the state of ohio like there's something about ohio that is makes football coaches what about michigan michigan's good too Yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 That's where I'm from. Yeah, I know, but Ohio doesn't.
Right now, it's like you go down the list.

Speaker 1 The coaches that we listed, plus TAC, like Jim Tressel, Bob Stoops, the Stoopses, the Pollinis, both Pollinis,

Speaker 1 the Grudens, all those guys. It's just something about Ohio.
An urban from Ohio? What?

Speaker 5 Is it urban from Ohio?

Speaker 1 Yes, I think so. But he's not a coach.
He's never come back. He's retired.
Yeah, he's totally gone. For life.
Yeah, exactly. That's my reaction as well.

Speaker 1 My last question for you is kind of like an X's nose type question, believe it or not.

Speaker 1 They made a rule change this year for pass interference where you're going to be able to challenge it a little bit. It's going to be, you know, it certainly looks like it's going to favor the offense.

Speaker 1 Have you sat down and thought about how you can take advantage of the fact they're going to be calling it more tightly this year? I don't know. Is that a word more tightly?

Speaker 1 Tighter. They're going to call it tighter this year.
Tighter.

Speaker 1 Have you sat down and thought, like, here's maybe how we could implement, I don't know, more back shoulder throws or more a certain type of other throw?

Speaker 5 Yeah, but the thing is, if they don't throw a penalty or they don't throw a flag and you're going to challenge it, you better know that it was PI.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I think that's something that we're going to figure out throughout the course of the preseason and early on into the regular season is just exactly how are these plays going to get overturned or whatnot.

Speaker 5 But honestly, I think it could be an advantage

Speaker 5 from a defensive perspective, considering that all scoring plays are under automatic review. And you you see a lot of

Speaker 5 rub or

Speaker 5 pick plays down in that red area. So it could actually help the defense.

Speaker 1 Or are you a red area or a red zone guy?

Speaker 5 I'm the red area. Okay.

Speaker 1 I always find that. What about the red area starting at the 22-yard

Speaker 1 Bob Diaco? High Red? Yeah, he did that. Yeah, 22-yard.

Speaker 1 It was 22-and-in, was the red area.

Speaker 5 I worked with Bob Diako.

Speaker 1 Did you? Yeah, I did. What was

Speaker 5 at Central Michigan? Did you know?

Speaker 1 Okay, so he hadn't. Did you see the crazy in his eye? Like, that guy at some point in his life is going to create a rivalry trophy out of nowhere with UCF.
Did you see that in his eyes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw it. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got that crazy in his eyes. Unbelievable.
I mean, that rivalry trophy is the greatest rivalry trophy of all time. Civil conflict.

Speaker 1 They lost it. I like the clock better than the trophy.
They countdown until the civil conflict in the locker room. Civil conflict.
You don't choose who your rivals are.

Speaker 1 All right, my last question is, I think you like me, and I want you to know that I don't like you. Good question.
That's okay. Okay.

Speaker 5 I still like you.

Speaker 1 No, see, don't do that. Don't do that.
How can you not like me?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 no, don't do that. Don't do that.
As soon as I see you on the sidelines, when you're coaching week one, I'll be like, this guy, fuck him. He's the worst.

Speaker 1 Unless you lose, then I'll be like, oh, I love Matt LaFleur. He can coach them first.

Speaker 5 I'll still dap you up.

Speaker 5 I'm going to come look for you.

Speaker 1 Okay, you need to get the rivalry juiced up a little and be like, I know.

Speaker 5 That's why we hired a Bucus.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to do Lovey Smith when he was like, we're going to beat the Packers. You got to be like, we're going to beat the Bears so we can get the rivalry going.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 we're going to have a great game versus the Bears.

Speaker 1 I like it. And you're going to be playing with it.

Speaker 5 It's going to be, I'll tell you what, it's going to be.

Speaker 5 Got a lot of respect for them.

Speaker 1 Your personality is disarming, and I don't like it. Let's end this interview.
I have a last, last question. Has Aaron Rodgers slipped into that fake southern accent thing that he did?

Speaker 1 Like he did after the Bears game last year? He was like, oh, my knee hurt so bad. I have not heard that one yet.
Be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 1 Every barrel laughs. All right, Matt LaFleur, thank you very much.
I do like you, but I don't. Guaranteed better than 106.

Speaker 1 I don't actually like you, but I like you're nice and you're a great guy.

Speaker 1 But after this, it's on. Okay, it can be on.
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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have hurt or injured Andrew Luck.

Speaker 1 Stop me if you've heard this before, but Andrew Luck has a weird random injury that might keep him out for a lot longer than everyone expects. Yep, it's an annual tradition that we go through here.

Speaker 1 I don't know what, I mean, the shoulder was fine last year.

Speaker 1 Well, it was after he threw the vortex, then the children's football, then the college football, then the real football. Now we have to be worried about the calf.

Speaker 1 His calf injury has migrated into an ankle injury. Oh, no.
So it's always an ankle injury. He's dealing with a bone issue in his ankle, which doesn't sound like a calf.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm not a doctor, but I think that if your muscle gets sore enough, then it can break. I don't know.

Speaker 1 So he's sitting out the entire preseason, which who the fuck cares? A preseason, I don't. I'm very much.
The preseason doesn't matter one way or the other. What did you say? Swag.
Swag.

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Did swag go Tanya Harding on him?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't put it past him.

Speaker 1 I don't think he had to. I think Andrew Luck just let him walk around enough, and something's going to happen.
So, what

Speaker 1 I don't, like, if you're a Colts fan, what do you do when Andrew Luck just every, it seems like every year has an injury that makes no sense, and you just don't get any report about it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you just have to bite down on a piece of wood and hope for the best. It's turned calf strain has turned into a high ankle issue.
Exactly. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think that's a good thing. That's like being like, oh, yeah, my sniffles turned into the flu.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, yeah, my sniffles turned into frostbite on the bottom of my feet.

Speaker 1 How does the calf.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I don't know. All I know is the most important story to come out of this was what Chad Ochosinko advised Andrew Luck to do.

Speaker 1 He said, Adam, he said, Adam, first of all, he called him Adam, not Andrew. I soaked my ankle in warm urine to heal all my lower extremity injuries.
Notice I was never injured my entire career.

Speaker 1 Please pass along my message. It's a home remedy.
So he was telling that to Adam Schefter to tell it to Andrew Luck. So just piss on yourself, Andrew.
Yeah, do it. Do it.
You can do this.

Speaker 1 And, I mean, I think at this point, Andrew Luck is, he'll take any. He went to Germany for his shoulder.

Speaker 1 And now he'll poop on you in Germany. Yeah, now you should.
Yeah, that is true. Scat porn.
And now he's just got to piss all over his ankle. Like a jellyfish.

Speaker 1 It's not going to hurt anything if you pee on your feet. Are you sure? I've done it many times.
It's true. And I did break my foot while I was walking.
So connect some dots. I don't know.

Speaker 1 All right, we have the PMT Sports Biz update with our darling Jake. By the way, Jillie Football is just showing up today.
She's back, yeah.

Speaker 1 She hasn't been here for a month, and then she just walked in and was like, I'm back. She gave me a great hug.

Speaker 4 She was like, asked me what to do. I was like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. We don't know.

Speaker 1 We thought you were just our Twitter friend now. Yeah.
So we'll have to figure out what to do with Jilly. Hopefully, maybe Friday we can figure this out.
We'll figure something out for you.

Speaker 1 But either way, we do have an intern that actually shows up every day, and it's Jake. So here it is, the PMT Sports Minute Sports Biz Minute.

Speaker 9 Good morning. This is Jake Marsh with the PMT PMT Sports Biz Minute.
The 2019 Little League World Series begins tomorrow.

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The Antonio Brown saga continues.

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Speaker 1 Commenter, back to you.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, very cool, Jake. Yeah, check out Jake on Twitter.
He's giving us facts.

Speaker 1 You're going to give us what Ray Allen and Keyshawn Johnson have done as entrepreneurs, minus all the jump juices, right? All right, so that's your homework.

Speaker 1 Next up, we have a way to stay relevant baseball.

Speaker 4 I looked it up. Keyshawn Johnson was on a weekend TV series on AE in 2008.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember that weekend.

Speaker 4 Keyshawn Johnson tackling design.

Speaker 1 He did do NFL Countdown for a while, right? He was on Countdown.

Speaker 1 He's done a lot of studio shows, yeah. Yeah.
And I guess he's got an investment business or whatever. He's been for a while.
Yeah, yeah. Because Mike Dika would just like stare at him and fart.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just fall asleep. What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 1 All right, so way to stay relevant: baseball. Major League Baseball released their 2020 schedule yesterday.
Also, the same day the NBA released their schedule. Yeah, at the same time.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is baseball doing? They couldn't have picked a worse time to do that if they had tried.

Speaker 1 If they had sat down and figured it out, the worst possible time would have been at that exact moment. And they did it.
So good job.

Speaker 1 But we're talking about it.

Speaker 1 I did look at it, and I'm just going to say, if any AWLs out there work at the Marriott at the Skydome, it's always been a dream of mine to go watch the Cubs play in that hotel that's in the stadium.

Speaker 1 Oh, the ones that people could see people fucking in. Yes.
Okay. So I'm not going to fucking it, but I will bring my For Loco tube.
That's a promise.

Speaker 1 Which is guaranteed not to be fucked. Yes.
It's going to sit right there. Seriously, someone hooked me up.

Speaker 1 This might be just a genius strategy that Major League Baseball has, is being so bad at marketing themselves that they get more marketing by people talking about how bad their marketing strategy is.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, I guess that's true.
It's just roast us. Right.
If it's just schedule release day and you're like, oh, there's a baseball schedule too?

Speaker 1 I guess that's better than just releasing it and everyone not even realizing it was released.

Speaker 1 We probably wouldn't talk about the baseball schedule getting released unless this had happened. Good point.

Speaker 1 You win again, Bud Seelig. Yeah, you did it.
All right. Last up before we get to guys on chicks, we have a thoughts and prayers for A-Rod.

Speaker 1 He had $500,000 of jewelry stolen from in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 I'm on the case. Where's World Series rings? Yeah,

Speaker 4 that is the first question you should ask.

Speaker 1 How does a man have $500,000 worth of jewelry in his car? He's fucking rich. Was he planning on proposing to somebody else? He valued Barcelona at $1 billion.

Speaker 1 Okay. So he's rich.
Interesting. I don't know how that makes him rich.
Yeah. But dude, if you say big enough numbers,

Speaker 1 then that's good. Okay.
Yeah, we should sell to him. For a billion, yes,

Speaker 1 one bill. You should be like, A-Rod, you are so smart, and you're right.
One bill. One billion dollars.
One bill, yeah. So I don't know what it's a major flex to have that much stolen from you, right?

Speaker 1 Like, that's the one spin zone here. To have $500,000 worth of jewelry stolen for you, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Unless it's like a Drew Brees situation where the

Speaker 1 rings weren't worth as much as what you bought them for. Oh.

Speaker 1 Drew Brees should have just said he got his shit stolen. Right.
Instead of being like, oh, I bought a huge cubic zirconia. Right.

Speaker 1 You should just flush that down the toilet and be like, I got my diamond ring stolen. Yeah, someone took my bling bling.
So, yeah, I'm on the case. I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 And by that, I mean I'm just going to go on Twitter until someone finds it and be like, job well done.

Speaker 1 Or just search Craigslist in Oakland. That's true.
That's true. If anyone has $500,000 worth of jewelry, yeah, I'm sure they went right to Craigslist.
Does Craigslist still exist? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Hank, does it exist? Yeah. Okay.
We're let go guys. Yeah, we don't have to go.
Big time. Big time let go.
It's the new wave. All right.
Last up.

Speaker 1 Let go should just lean into like, we've never been shut down for human trafficking. Boom.
Craigslist, can't say that. Hey, remember 2002? Neither do we.

Speaker 1 Let go. Let go.

Speaker 1 All right. So, special edition, guys on chicks, guys in labor.

Speaker 4 Why? Why are we doing guys in labor?

Speaker 1 Oh, boy, where do we start? Everyone's unionizing, and Barstool isn't. Well, so last night, I guess Dave started.
Well, two days ago, the ringer unionized. That's right, the ringer uniter.

Speaker 1 Because Russell got like a $500 million contract. Yeah, now it's unreported.

Speaker 1 My hypothesis that he was sent over there by ESPN to become an inside agitator,

Speaker 1 start a union, and then try to tear the ringer down from the inside, then go back to ESPN clapping his hands. I did it, boss.
Yep. But

Speaker 1 he's kind of suspect that he still has four podcasts left on ESPN. That's just what I'm saying.
I don't know if it's true. Shout out, Ryan, by the way.
Good friend of ours.

Speaker 1 Announcing going to the Ringer and then tweeting out, still got four ESPN podcasts.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so the Ringer, they unionized a couple days ago, and then our boss, Dave, said that he would crush,

Speaker 1 smash any unionizing efforts like a grape, I believe is what he said. Correct.
Which is against the law

Speaker 1 to say that. He should have said, I'll eat any union like a grape in three bites, like Mike Greenberg.
Yeah. At least give you a chance to live.
Exactly. Or like, I'll eat someone's ass.
Right, right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it is against the law. He broke the law, which I, is he going to jail? I kind of hope he goes to jail.
Although,

Speaker 1 jail, if Dave went to jail, it's actually jail for for us because then he'll tell us about jail all the time. He will never let that go.
Right.

Speaker 1 He'll be like, he doesn't go to jail for Roger Goodell, and he talked about it non-stop. Yeah.
So that's jail for us. Don't put him in jail.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then we got into the whole unionization conversation today about whether or not Barcelona should unionize. Hand up.
I didn't know shit about unions.

Speaker 1 All I knew about unions was I've seen newsies twice.

Speaker 4 You still don't know shit about unions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like literally, that's one of those things where if you'd asked me, listen, I'm not the smartest guy.

Speaker 1 I think I know a little bit about a lot of it, but unions definitely didn't know a lot about that. Yeah, I think unions are good across the board.
I'm a big union. Everything I've learned, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Yes, we have educated you a little bit. Oh, dude, when I said, I was like, I think unions are good, but not for us.
Everyone's like, you're a fucking scab and a bootlicker.

Speaker 1 I was like, dude, what did I say? Yeah. So I learned that language is very important.
The language police come at you when it comes to unions. I learned that.
They definitely do.

Speaker 1 I also learned that I have equity, so I actually am like, I can't. We should.
I'm getting my boots licked we should unionize against you yeah I shouldn't comment about

Speaker 1 unionization about our union efforts because little late for that yeah way late so way late I blew that one everybody else in the room can unionize against big cat on this show yeah and then we can have all and guess what as your boss I will not my boss you're not okay you've recognized the union

Speaker 1 yeah so the thing about unions I think a lot of people were thinking like oh if you unionize against your boss then it means that you are not happy with the way things are. Correct.
I thought that.

Speaker 1 I think, and you know what? What I've learned today?

Speaker 1 I still don't know.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, in theory, you could unionize right now, and just part of your union bargaining could be, if this is what you want it to be, I want everything the way that it is right now.

Speaker 1 And so, while that wouldn't change anything, but you got to pay fees,

Speaker 1 you would pay a little bit of a fee. That's true.
Got to throw that out there.

Speaker 1 But then,

Speaker 1 be fair to both sides. That's true.
You got to pay for that. But then,

Speaker 1 if Barstool were to get sold to somebody that didn't want to treat you good, it would still be in your contract that they had to treat you good. Damn.
Well,

Speaker 1 so we've all learned a lot today. Yeah, sure.
So, bottom line, I still don't understand unions. All I know is that I am pro-union.

Speaker 1 I still don't understand how a union would work for barstool, but I'm in a position where I can't talk about it. Okay, well, here come a bunch of questions.
Did I sum it up correctly?

Speaker 1 I think I nailed it.

Speaker 4 Basically, union-centric.

Speaker 1 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Let's do it guys and labor if one person in your union has sex does that mean by default you also had sex yes that's actually the law is very clear on this okay so pft i've been i've been i was in a union and i claimed that i lost my virginity so i yes pft here's another question is our uh resident union lawyer labor lawyer um

Speaker 1 if i wanted to start a union But my only grievance was for Chernin to pay off all my gambling debts, is that okay? I believe you could request that. I'm in a union.

Speaker 1 I declare unionship.

Speaker 4 All right. Which union, such as garbage construction, laborers, plumbers, etc., do you think has the toughest members?

Speaker 1 Pipe fitters. Steam fitters, maybe? The welders? Yeah, welders.
Dude, welders just walk around with fire all day. Fire and iron.
What about the underwater welders? Are they special steam fitters?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think insulators. Insulators, that's the silent killer.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's what they say.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe refrigeration. Because you've got to deal with people bitching.
They only call you when the refrigerator is broken. I'm actually going to say digital media.
Probably the toughest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the part. That's really the part that I don't understand how digital media has unions.
But that's, again, I'm learning.

Speaker 1 I'm a little egg. I'm learning my union

Speaker 1 everything.

Speaker 1 And someday I'll learn

Speaker 1 where I'm going to go. Learn to fly.
Oh, I'm in a union, so it's fine.

Speaker 4 Union suggestion: join the firefighters union and get them to drive by Pete's house with sirens on all night until he gets the podcast room fixed.

Speaker 4 Thursday. Friday's podcast.
There's going to be no issues.

Speaker 1 No, that's right. That's what we've been talking on Thursday, John Day.

Speaker 1 Except I talked to Pete yesterday. Oh, no.
And here's what Pete told me. Just so that you're aware, there might be some residual noise while you guys are recording.

Speaker 1 I was like, Pete, those are two big words. What does that mean? He was like, well,

Speaker 1 they're going to be fixing the windows in other rooms nearby.

Speaker 1 And so that you might be able to hear the sirens through those. So basically, it still might be fucking noisy on Thursday.

Speaker 1 It might be noisy on Thursday, but we think it's going to be fixed on Thursday. And

Speaker 1 because I know I hate Pete and we go back and forth a million times, he is actually getting this fixed. So I'm going to give him another 50 Madden codes to give out to the people.
Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 At all business Pete. At all business Pete.
We'll give him out. He's got FIFA codes, too.
He's got FIFA codes. He's got Madden codes.

Speaker 1 I am going to do that out of the goodness of my heart for you people. Tweeted all business, Pete.
Asked for those Madden codes.

Speaker 4 My boyfriend almost always has Lint in his belly button. Is this a common thing? How does this happen? What does that have to do with unions?

Speaker 1 Yeah, unions. We're talking about unions.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 the blessed union of marriage. Yeah, the belly button.
Ooh, deep belly buttons union.

Speaker 1 We want rights. Yeah, four nipplers

Speaker 1 of America. Yeah, okay.
Can you unionize everything? No, I don't know. I'm confident.
I think you cannot declare.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 everyone has belly button.

Speaker 1 If you don't have belly button lint, then it's a problem. Okay, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 I've shot a full fucking shirt out of my belly button at night. Yeah, Rick Riley told me, remember? Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. Like a nittick, what will that be? Literally, like, it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 This isn't really a question. It's more of just a roast or statement.
Okay. The majority of your audience is middle class, hence a lot of union labor workers.
Facts.

Speaker 4 I'm in the local 134 labor union in Chicago, and if you guys think me or any of my coworkers are going to support a company that blasts unions, you have another thing coming. Don't blast unions.

Speaker 1 Yep. We are

Speaker 1 anti-blasting union.

Speaker 4 Next question from a separate person. Is shooting unionizers immoral?

Speaker 1 Shooting them? Shooting them? Shooting. Shooting? That's the question.

Speaker 1 People are immoral.

Speaker 1 Because Mr. Portnoy is threatening to shoot me.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, that is very immoral.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 listen, I don't even know. I actually have no idea where Dave stands at this point.
I think a lot of it is shtick.

Speaker 1 But if you were writing in from a union, we got your back. But we might not unionize.
But I've said too much. I've said too much.
Just there. I'm just walking on eggshells.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck. Here's the thing, big cat.
I'll take this one for you. Okay, thank you.
It's okay to not start a union. Correct.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 however, you should be able to have the conversation of whether or not you should

Speaker 1 without somebody saying that he'll fire you if you do. Are unions basically fight club? Yeah.
Okay. Exactly.
Because don't ever talk about

Speaker 1 unions. Now you get it.

Speaker 4 Good question regarding that.

Speaker 1 Fellow current bootlickers. Oh, dude,

Speaker 1 I got called a bootlicker like a billion times today.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you, man, it hurts every time.

Speaker 4 I live in the South and was told by my last employer that if a union rep came onto the property that we were to report him to our facility manager, he would call the police and have the rep charged with trespassing.

Speaker 4 Other than that, we have fantastic benefits. So that's kind of where you have to draw the line to determine what's best.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, man.
Gotcha. This shit is so confusing.

Speaker 1 It is very confusing.

Speaker 1 Unions are just like people, right?

Speaker 1 They're good people and there are bad people everywhere in every single walk of life. For the most part, I think unions do a great job, like teachers, firefighters.
Unions gave us weekends. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Weekends. But I still might not be for the union.
But we work on Sundays, though.

Speaker 4 So we need to.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because we choose to. I got to say, like...
Charles Big Cat will fire us.

Speaker 1 I know people are mad at Dave, and they have every right to be mad at Dave, but him just saying that he would go and smash random unions, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, I'll go to the Daily Beast and smash your unions. I did notice.
He thinks it's like he thinks he's Mario and he can just jump around and jump on people.

Speaker 1 He thinks he's a Pinkerton for hire.

Speaker 4 Here's the last

Speaker 4 question in regard to that. Sup boys, especially Dip Cat.
Union question.

Speaker 1 He did nine dips today.

Speaker 4 Obviously.

Speaker 1 Nine pouches or snooze? Nine.

Speaker 4 Obviously, you guys on PMT have said you have the perfect job and that all your benefits are taken care of. Correct.

Speaker 4 Is Dave just talking much of shit because he knows that he has the support of his employees? Also, Packers plus three.

Speaker 1 No, I think Dave's just, he made the initial tweet and he saw it got a reaction.

Speaker 1 And then he was like, I'm going to double and double down and triple down on all of this because I see that people are talking about me.

Speaker 1 But there is an element where, and I don't, I haven't talked to every single person at Barstool about unions, but I would say a lot of people at Barcelona are very, very happy. That's not saying that

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 What do you say, do? Things

Speaker 1 people get paid very well, and people seem to be very happy here, but I don't know if that means we should unionize or not. Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 But we can have the conversation and choose not to. That's our choice.
I will allow the conversation. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not up to you. No, no, no, no.
I would welcome the paragraph.

Speaker 1 So thank you. Thank you.
Owner of boots.

Speaker 4 This is what Simmons is going to say whenever he comments on this.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is Bill Simmons lucked into this face. Yeah.
Because holy shit. If he comes out and he's like, fuck these guys, that would be the internet will just go aflame.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. There's a part of me that thinks that what Dave was doing part at shtick today is exactly what Bill Simmons wants to do for real.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 1 You should just hire Dave to smash the real unions.

Speaker 1 Dave is a fucking, he really does think he can go around smashing unions, so might as well just hire him. Yep.
All right. We'll see everyone Friday.
Love you guys.

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