Packers HC Matt LaFleur, We Riot + Mount Rushmore Of Magic Johnson's Favorite Things

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Green Bay Packers head coach, Matt LaFleur. Little training camp bonus for the people.
We went up to Green Bay, kind of a dump. We talked to Matt LaFleur about coaching Aaron Rodgers.
They call it title town for a reason, folks. Getting his job.

New. up to green bay kind of a dump we talked to i thought it was great floor uh about coaching aaron rogers they call it title town for a reason folks getting his job uh new coach tearing his acl is he scared of khalil mac answers yes uh we also have magic johnson mount rushmore of magic johnson's top 60 list for in honor of him turning 60 only magic johnson could do this so we're going to to break it down, give you our Mount Rushmore picks off of his list.
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Okay, let's go. Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence And then I love to solve what can be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun you It's part of my take presented by Ball School Sports.
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I don't know if we should riot. It feels like not a riot because they addressed Antonio Brown.
So to back up, if you didn't listen to the Monday show. Yeah, yeah, we should explain that.
Why are we rioting? On Friday, Big Cat and I tweeted basically at the exact same time, literally the exact same time, that if they don't show Antonio Brown complaining about his helmet, faking the new helmet, the whole helmet gate situation on hard knocks, then we riot. We we riot and we kind of painted ourselves into a corner and we're not sure if he rioted or if he actually complained enough to warrant a riot on this you sent out a google calendar that just kept on popping up every like five minutes we're watching the show live in in studio we're actually five minutes late for the ride five minutes late for the ride but i was like why the what do i have at 11 o'clock on a tuesday oh yeah yeah riot if they don't talk about antonio brown helmet gates so hank tentatively accepted the uh calendar invite so i don't know maybe it was if yeah i wrote maybe because we might riot but they did talk about it so we have to decide i vote i vote like a half a rot fuck this fuck that yeah do.
Yeah, do that. Do that.
All right, PFT's throwing some shit off his little corner over there. All right, that's some good riding.
Feel good? Kick that skateboard. Kick it.
There you go. Okay, so we rioted.
Riot complete. That was a riot.
Hey, we never make promises we don't keep on this show ever. That was me throwing something.
Don't get out of control. You just threw a coaster.
You might need a drink later. So, yeah, they sort of talked about it.
I don't – Antonio Brown, I think the problem was he wasn't there. He wasn't there for most of it.
So, because he was at home, they didn't have a camera on. They showed his disgusting feet and him talking about circumcising his feet.
Was weird. Which was hot.
Was very weird. As a foot guy.
So, all in all, decent, decent hard knocks. Not what we wanted because we wanted some real juicy Antonio Brown.
We wanted John Gruden sitting in his office being like, where the hell is this guy? And flipping out. But you know what we did get was John Gruden talking a lot about Nathan Peterman.
Yes. So that was nice.
Nathan Peterman versus Mike Glennon. Yeah.
So awesome backup backup battle and the best part about john gruden talking about peterman is he just follows every sentence with the word man yeah like i love football man but when he's talking about peterman it's you get a double man yeah he's like i like this kid peterman man yeah and he and he like kept on saying that he sucks but saying he loves him he was like nathan peterman you're you going so slow, my life is running out of lifespan. That was a direct quote.
And Mike Lennon, I don't know. I said it out loud while we were watching.
I don't know how I thought for any moment in my life that Mike Lennon was the answer at quarterback for the Bears or for any team for that matter. That's a pretty big indictment of the Chicago Bears right there.
Yeah, like Ryan Pace, great job. Did they have their special teams coach scouting them or what? At one point, you were like, Mike Lennon's our guy.
I remember he threw out the first pitch at Wrigley, and I was like, this guy, I don't know. He could do it.
This long-ass neck. But, yeah, he threw a couple.
When you get out-intercepted by Nathan Peterman, I think we talked about this on Monday, it's just a terrible look. You can't have that happen.
Nathan Peterman is the interception guy, and then you go out and beat him on that Peterman man threw a pretty clean game he had that scramble for 50 yards yep Glennon had two bad interceptions real bad I think I think John Gruden's falling in love with Peterman man he already was in love with him he was in love with him with the draft remember yep my other big takeaway was uh Sean McVay is the original piss boy yes well Gr, Gruden was the piss boy, but then he called Sean McVay the piss boy when McVay was working for him in Tampa. Such a hilarious interaction.
A young Sean McVay, probably 23, 24 years old, and John Gruden just grilling him on whether he loves football or not. He's like, but do you love it? You love watching it, but do you love it? You can watch football.
You can hear everyone talk about it, but do you love it? And Sean McVay was like, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think I love football.
I'm in. But, yeah, it was cool seeing them meet at midfield, and then Sean McVay not sure whether or not to do his big Gruden impression or to dial it down because he was around Gruden.
Because I think he got out-Gruden-ed were meeting and they were saying what's up yeah uh which is to be expected I mean like that's the whole teacher mentor relationship shout out Jonathan Abram realizing that he looked like an idiot in the first week and toning it down a little I I said that out loud I was like listen if he's the same way week two then this is just just who he is, and it's going to be really annoying.

But everyone has the right to look bad on camera once or twice and then realize, oh, maybe I shouldn't just blow guys up in the middle of the field

when we're not even having pads on

and then laugh in Gruden's face when he tells me not to do that.

Maybe I shouldn't just keep pushing and prodding about the pronunciation of salmon.

That's not great TV.

Every guy gets one week where they're allowed to look shitty on television. We used ours up a couple years ago.
But you have to learn and you have to move on. Derek Carr also not as awkward.
Felt like they toned that down as well. Yeah, that had a lot to do with Mike Lennon standing behind him most of the time.
It's tough to look more awkward than Mike Lennon. Yeah, but overall it was decent.
know i i i just feel like this hard knock season is it's never going to live up to the hype especially with everything that's going next week they have a chance a chance to make it really really cool if antonio brown stuff is actually talked about are we right or we right that we're going to do it has been absolutely next week so what's going on with antonio brown you you have like some things going i do have a couple things cooking with antonio brown so he obviously has been sitting out because the feet and because he doesn't have his helmet his helmet is too old to be recertified it's like 10 years old okay and so they won't let him car and emissions yeah yeah exactly we talked about it a little bit earlier but so he's been looking the exact same model, just one that happens to be made within the last 10 years, so he can get it recertified. Now, thanks to AWL Nation, we have tracked down two of these helmets in his size.
One is from a fun belt player, a former fun belt player, and the other, I'm not exactly sure what college it's from, but it's the same. It's the exact same model that he wears,

the exact same size that he wears,

and I think the face masks are the same too.

So he's been trying to find one of these,

and he said that if we can find one and he can get one,

he'll trade a Raiders used helmet.

And we don't want that.

We don't want that. We want, Hank had a great idea.

We will trade Antonio Brown right now.

If you, everyone tweeted Antonio Brown and tell him him these guys have two helmets ready to go in return. We want you to do a touchdown dance for us.
Yes. A part of my take touchdown dance.
That's all we ask. I don't know what that touchdown dance looks like.
Well, we got to figure it out. My neck, my back and then grab his crotch than his butt.
What if he what if he goes up to Derek Carr and starts eating his butt yeah that I would accept that oh you got to simulate ass eating get right in the muffler of the car there yeah you get simulate ass eating you get both helmets

right in the tailpipe if you don't want to do that we'll give you one helmet for uh if you

wear a part of my take fanny pack and it gets on hard knocks oh what if we made what if we made

like a skin cover for an iPhone he did a Joe Horn oh that'd be nice that would be pretty sick

Honestly, just get us a lunch with Mark Davis. Yes, actually, that's it.
So either Derek Carr's ass or P.F. Chang's with Mark Davis.
I don't think those are crazy offers. I don't think so either.
I mean, I think they're both pretty good. We're being nice.
I mean, it's a great helmet. Do you want this helmet or not, Antonio? Antonio because the fact is if you don't have this helmet and you don't play this year i think you're walking away from like 20 million dollars yeah and all the touchdown dances would you rather have 20 million dollars or eat Derek Carr's ass just simulate it it's pretty easy you don't have to do it like and i'll actually you know what i'm gonna throw in a little extra i want um someone to fake hit a home run like Christian Gelich, and then he eats the ass.
That's the Alfred Morris touchdown. Yes.
I like that one. That's a home run, and then they're watching, and they're like, well, and they give a little shit.
Guess we got to do it, and then they go and do it. You know what would be great if Derek Carr could also do the salute, the mile-high salute while he was getting his ass eaten.
Just like all in all, I think that's a very well-choreographed touchdown celebration.

Not flaggable.

Or General Siles with love is love.

Mark Davis.

Yes.

Pretty easy.

You decide.

You decide.

I can't decide which one I'd rather see or do.

I think both work.

I think we'd be happy with both.

Yeah, either one's fine.

What about you, Hank? I want to see the ass.

You want to see the ass eating touchdown?

Okay.

All right.

Well, he can do it.

What can Brown do for you? He can do it. Let's go.
Everyone tell him. We got two helmets for him.
Two. Two.
You know what would be perfect? Because that weirdo feel that they have in Oakland, if he literally did it on third base. Oh.
And Derek Carr maybe sat down in the dirt beforehand and stood up. Got real muddy with it? Yeah.
Okay. Now we're getting a little out of control, that's okay i think this is it's called the helmet it's called anchoring the negotiation we we put this out and he's like tell you what i'll do it except for the muddy butt good segue you didn't even mean to segue we have to talk about dak prescott being the greatest negotiator of all time yeah because there was news that came out that he wants 40 million dollars immediately Immediately debunked.
But I'm basically going to just assume he wants $40 million. Boom.
Negotiation anchored. So Jerry offered $30 million.
Now this is all from, I think Jane Slater reported it. And she's very close with the Cowboys team.
So I'm guessing this is coming from Jerry or somebody close to him. Right.
That they offered him $30 million and he counted with $40 million. So I'm not sure if he actually came back with $40 million.
But like you, I choose to believe, like, yeah, why not ask for $50, Dak? Right. Just ask for him.
Pay him. Right.
Pay Dak's a bitch. This will be an interesting negotiation because Dak Prescott is right on that line.
He is that guy who you're like, do we give him a ton of money? Yeah. You've got to go all in.
The guy guy that you think might be your quarterback, you got to pay him 45 million. But you also have the problem with the Cowboys have like they actually have a good young core that they have to keep paid.
And I think they just paid a couple of guys. I know they just paid to Marcus Lawrence.
Like you got to pay Zeke. You got to pay Amari Cooper.
So I know that everyone keeps tweeting. I think there's some people out there like Dax, not as bad as people make it out to seem and I don't think he is that's worth 45 million right there I don't six million I don't think he's worth 40 million and I think that you probably have to sit down Dak and be like dude I know that you want this much money but would you rather this much money or maybe win a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboys which won't happen but you got to negotiate that way as not a Dallas Cowboys fan I hope they, I hope they pay Dak as much money as possible.
Did you hear this? Yeah, 75. Fuck it.
Deal. Full send.
This is a quote from Jerry Jones today from John Machoda. He was talking about the situation that he's in with Dak, Ezekiel, and Amari.
He said, Picture you were a driver of a car and you had a wreck and your hand was almost severed

off, but you didn't understand your anatomy.

You look down. Sorry, should I do the Jerry

voice? You look down, you're spurting blood,

you open the door and you run to the woods

and you either die bleeding to death or

shock. The educated man looks down,

knows his anatomy, squeezes and knows

his best chance is to wait for help.

That's because he's been there a lot and done that.

So I'm squeezing and I'm waiting for help.

So that's Jerry Jones

on contract negotiations. That might be your best impression.
Yeah, that was good. That was really good.
I love jacking it into my shoes. That was like George Bush Ross Perot.
I got my comfort. I'm Jerry.
Pass me that Johnny Walker Blue. We just gave you a compliment and you're just like, I'm coming back back for more, and I'm going to ruin it.
I just Johnny Walker blue a load into my shoes. All right, so, yeah, Dak Prescott, I guess.
Pay him. They got to pay everyone.
Pay Dak. Pay Zeke.
Pay Amari. They should just put a bunch of money and be like, you guys figure it out.
Yeah. Like, here's $90 million.
Who wants what? Do it. Lock him in a room with $90 million, a pocket knife, and a roll of duct tape.
And just let the chips fall where they may. Or have it be that big Salvation Army bowl and have it be a big bowl of cereal like Zeke getting fed.
And then there's money at the bottom. Okay.
And whatever you don and whatever you don't take out goes to the Salvation Army. Yes.
Charity. So how great, how great are you going to be? Right.
Just have them jump in. Like it's double dare.
Yeah. I like that.
You guys decide. And then loser gets slimed.
Yep. Okay.
Problem solved. All right.
We should do hot seat. Cool throne before we get to our Mount Rushmore, Matt LaFleur.
If you want to watch Matt LaFleur, if you want to watch Matt LaFleur, you can do it on BarstoolGold.com slash PMT. Or watch the riot.
I mean. Or watch the riot.
The riot was lit. It got fucking crazy in here.
It was. Jake got a little nervous.
Did you pee your pants, piss boy? Get out of here. Trash.
I just rioted a little bit right there. I'm sorry.
It's got a little residual riot. A little extra riot.
It's tough to get out of his system. All right, so hot seat, cool throw on Hank.
Why don't you start? My hot seat is Michael Porter Jr. You guys remember him? Remember he's in the NBA? Oh, yeah, I do.
Has yet to play a minute. His spine is made of dust.
And today there was a conference. Adam Silver was talking to the Denver Nuggets, and he tweeted out a picture of Silver on stage, not that Adam Silver's phone number, his office phone number, and his email were on the screen.
So he basically tweeted out to the entire world. He doxed him.
His cell phone was on there too. Yeah, cell phone, office phone, and email.
What happened? What do you mean? Did people just blow him up? I'm sure. They were like, hey, Adam, let's make I don't even know what ideas going around nba reddit right now yeah i got um let's see i think i actually wrote it down here earlier you want to try to call him yeah sure okay let's try to call adam silver i'm assuming it's changed at this point we'll find out it's probably gonna go straight to voicemail yeah that's that's gotta be a tough like you've never played a minute in the league Yeah.
Disconnected. You know what? That actually pisses me off because Adam Silver, like, he got doxed and that sucks.
But you know he had someone deal with all that, you know? He didn't have to call Verizon. Spin Zone, do you think he actually planted that? Like, he was cool with being doxed because he's the accessible commissioner? Ooh.
Maybe he's got something to hide. So he deliberately got his phone taken away.
So that people aren't sniffing around the other stuff that he's doing. New phone number.
Interesting. He smashed it.
Wow. Interesting.
Okay. Okay.
Just saying. It is a very convenient reason to smash your phone.
Yeah. And we saw him smash it.
Yeah. He smashed it right on stage.
My other hot seat are all the people out there, all the AWLs who I'm sure thought that drinking bleach would cure cancer or autism. Whoa, what happened? The FDA came out and said for sure that drinking bleach will not cure cancer or autism.
Okay, good to know. Good to know.
We got that on the list. All the people listening.
You have to inject it. That was tough.
All right, we had a bad, bad phase there. And then my cool throne is Four Loko.
Oh, which is similar to injecting bleach. Yep.
Well, now they came out with the Spike Seltzer. So for all the people, you know, on the beach, whatever.
They've also come out. They came out with a Four Loko sex toy.
Like, they went from being banned from the world to all of a sudden they're back. All right, hey.
We're a flashlight yeah but i'm pretty sure it makes sense for dudes who just pound so much for loco they can't talk to women just can't stop pounding it yeah yeah um i think that the for loco thing is fake i'm very woke on this because there was no like link to the product whatsoever it was a it was a photoshop that four loco put out there of four loco spike seltzer and it said like the ultimate or the most extreme hard seltzer something like that it was 14 alcohol whoa and here's why i think it's fake is because if you're going to make something 14 alcohol why not just make it 20 true is there anybody out there that would drink a 14 for loco that wouldn't 20%? Why not make it 50 and have it just be liquor? Hardest seltzer in the universe is a hard tagline. Yeah.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not so sure that it's real. Oh, so that's how it was.
It's the hardest seltzer. You're going to get so hard.
Here's this flashlight. Fuck it.
Basically. That was smart.
I just did the marketing for for a little bit. I'll send.
I'll invoice you later. Fuck it.
I'm fuck it i'm having a for loco yeah damn this hard seltzer make you so hard you're gonna want to come in this piece of plastic the hardest seltzer it's the coolest thing you can do you ever go out for a night out with your boys drink so much for loco you just want to fuck a tube well that's the thing is if you actually finish a for loco you're probably not going to be able to fuck. Right.
So the a fleshlight never the fleshlight never gets used a fleshlight's never like does this happen often that's true you're good that's very true i just cool i was actually saying this is a great way for the fleshlight to retain its value it's like a star wars figurine that you never take out of the package that's right that's right um all right All right. Good job, Four Loko.
We're truly guys, by the way. Yeah.
Let's just throw that out there. Claws down.
Yeah. Truly.
Truly the best. Is that it, Hank? That's it.
All set? Okay. My first hot seat is old school, tough-ass football.
Ooh. Because Vic Fangio has banned hazing.
He's banned rookie haircuts. He's banned all that stuff.
He's been singing at Broncos training camp. Nice.
Yeah. Nice.
This is like way, way back old school. We're going so old school.
They didn't even know what hazing was. They're just like, you need to respect your fellow man.
Yeah. Right.
Old Testament school. No, like I'm talking like 1903 Harvard Yale where they just bash brains together with no helmets.
That old school. Where people died nobly instead of cutting their hair.
You don't have time to haze when you're not going to live past 35. That's a good point.
That's a very good point. So it's old, old school.
But it also gave people a reason to tweet out the picture of Tim Tebow when he got the monk haircut. So I love to see that.
I think that you should be allowed to give one rookie a monk haircut per year. Yes, I agree.
That's not hazing. That's team building.
That's funny. Big difference.
There's a difference. If it's funny, it's not hazing.
My other hot seat. Yeah.
If the people that are doing the hazing. Are laughing.
Think that it's funny. Yes.
Then it's just a classic show. Legally, that's not hazing if everyone's laughing except for the guy who's getting hazed.
Correct. My other hot seat is shitting.
Okay. Because Brazil's fascist president says that people should avoid pooping every day.
They should poop every other day now if we want to save the planet. So that's going to be tough for me.
I'm out. Yeah, and for that reason, I'm not voting for the fascist in Brazil.
Yikes. I don't know if he's ever been to a Brazilian steakhouse, but it's...
Instant. Impossible.
Instant. Meat sweats.
Yes, yes. You can't help but shit within the hour.
Remember the one we went to in Vegas? Yeah, and the waitress thought that I was a woman from behind and said, ma'am. I wasn't going to tell that story.
That's exactly why you're bringing it up. No, I was just going to ask if you remember that meal we shared.
I'm saying, okay, whatever. Yes, I do remember it.
It was good, wasn't it? It happens not irregularly that I'll be sitting at a bar and somebody will approach me from behind. Be like, excuse me, ma'am.
And that's only natural because I've got the long hair and a great ass. I'm sorry.
Oh, man. All right.
What else? Most importantly, my great ass. My cool throne is the fat cats at DirecTV.
Oh. Because this is when the Sunday ticket bill hits.
It was this week. Shit.
I didn't even know that. Yeah, that's how they get you.
You forget year by year. Hey, fun fact.
Football's back now, though. Yeah, football is back.
Fun fact. We were supposed to have DirecTV in this office.
That is a fun fact. We moved in three months ago.
I had a conversation, too, with one of the tech guys. I don't think we're getting it.
No, I don't think so either. I think the whole plan of watching every game here is gone, which is insane.
We're building a gambling cave. So, fellas, where are we going to watch the games? Buffalo Wild Wings? I guess so.
Busters. I get Busters.
Ooh, Busters, yeah. We got to do one Sunday at Busters.
Yeah, I'll tell you what. We'll alternate B-dubs and Busters.
We'll do a watch party at Busters. Busters, give us some fucking cash, bro.
Yeah, please. Come on.
My other cool throne is deepfakes. You love Busters.
What did you say? Or some tokens. Yeah, that'd be great if we did an ad deal with Busters and they just gave us tokens.
I'd take it. Yeah, absolutely.
50,000 tokens. I will take my payment from Busters in tokens and in like little cheap keychains.
I'll forego my $75,000 we get for every single episode of part of my take each and convert it all into Buster coins. That's worth like 75,001 Buster coins.
Yes, exactly. It's a better bang for your buck.
All right, where's your other cool throw? My other cool throw is Deepfakes. Oh, yeah.
Did you guys see this video? No. It was a video from, I think it was Bill Hader on, was he on Jay Leno's show? One of them.
I was on one of those shows a while ago. Yeah.
And he was getting interviewed and he was, they seamlessly turned his face into Tom Cruise's face as he was doing a Tom Cruise impression. What? And then into Seth Rogen's face as he was doing a Seth Rogen impression and then back and then back and then back and then back and forth.
Like five times to the point where now I'm afraid. Now I'm basically ready to admit that the robots have won.
And so just think of me as one of the good ones, robots, when you do take over the earth because I'm on your side now. Okay, so I'm thinking of it more glass half full.
Oh, yeah. Barstool Advisors this year, we're getting in the deep fakes game.
Well, I'm not even thinking about that, Hank.

We're working on it.

You think of what I'm thinking?

What?

Christian Yelich, if he wins the Home Run Derby, deep fakes.

Oh, there you go.

I do like that.

Cut that part.

That's really good.

Yeah, yeah.

That's really good.

I love it.

Yes.

Deep fakes.

All right.

So we're back.

All right.

My hot seat.

Go deep fakes.

My hot seat is Fredo.

You can't say Fredo anymore.

So Chris Cromo was videotaped. Thank you for remembering Cromo.
Everyone thinks that he's got a new nickname. No, it's still Cromo.
Who is Chris Cromo? He's a guy on CNN. LeVar Ball.
Vox? He's on CNN. LeVar Ball flipped his game on him and said, people call you Cromo.
Yeah. Okay, Cromo.
So he was, I don't know, he got in a fight with some guy. He went real aggro, and he said calling me Fredo is like using the N-word for Italians.
And I didn't think that, but now we can't say Fredo. I thought just the N-word was the Italian version of calling people the N-word.
Like that's Italians love. Right.
Yeah. But no, it's Fredo.
Interesting. It is Fredo.
So you cannot call anyone by the name of a fictional character that's a total fuck up and uh went against the family i did like how upset that he got though like he was ready to fight very upset i love that fredo i wish he had fought actually you know what i the more i think about the more i don't like that he got that upset because if you're going to get that pissed off and not fight, then what are we doing here? He was acting like Sonny.

Then what are we?

Yeah, he wasn't afraid.

Don't call him Sonny.

Yeah, that's right.

That's also he was an S word.

Yes.

He's acting like a real S word instead of an F word.

Yeah.

Acting like a real big pussy.

So that's in the that's not like the no, not like the misogynistic term.

No, the guy from the Sopranos.

No, but he's he fucking ratted everyone out.

Yeah, that killed in season two. That's the guy he was acting like.
Right, but that's also a slur. Big Pussy? Yeah.
Who finds Big Pussy? Dude, he ratted. I'm not talking about...
He got caught selling H. I'm not talking about the genitals.
I'm talking about the guy. That is a slur.
Because Fredo went against the family, so did Big Pussy. So we can't say Big P pussy anymore.
No. So we'll call every Italian guy Pauly Walnuts.
Okay. Sounds good.
Everyone loves Pauly. All right.
My cool throne. I got two.
One is, well, actually, it's me both ways. Me, myself as the anti-vaxxer.
My son's getting vaccinated tomorrow. First vaccination.
That must be very tough. I'm out.
I'm out on the anti-vaxxer. Sorryers sorry sorry i know people were like waiting with bated breath hoping that i would join jenny mccarthy and uh kristen cavallari and other people uh-huh who have uh high-minded uh high-minded individuals that are the cutting edge of science i'm not so this is officially putting the nail in the coffin of your friendship with jay then probably yeah this is it was it.
Well, it was the needle in my son's arm. The needle? It ended our relationship.
And then my other is myself as well because I had to go to Home Depot. Humblecat.
Well, listen to this. You guys will like this because I think this is relatable.
I had to go to Home Depot. I successfully went to Home Depot and got what I needed without asking anyone and there's no better feeling in the world.
You feel like the manliest man that's ever walked Earth. When you can walk into Home Depot, it took me a while.
Yeah, I was going to say, were you stubborn about it? No, I was very stubborn about it. Very, very stubborn.
It took me way too long, but still, doing that thing where you just cannot ask, because you know you can ask, and Home Depot people, they know right away. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, back left corner of aisle 17.
But aisle 17 but i didn't ask and i successfully did it took me about 25 minutes to find the wood glue but i did it you know what the the best feeling is when you're doing that and somebody else asks you where something is and you can tell them you help them out in home you're like oh i know and then on the way back there like what are you building no and then you pretend to know how to help them i did that a couple times it's the best gave some really advice. It's a big time like alpha off when you go into Home Depot.
I feel like you're watching yourself. I get the feeling that there are people that just walk around Home Depot all day waiting to be asked those questions.
100% That don't actually work there. Yeah.
They just, it's the love of the game. Exactly.
Yeah, absolutely. All right.
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He, for his 60th birthday, decided to release a few lists. Four lists, his top 60 favorites.
And he did Magic's top 60 films, Magic's top 60 athletes that turned entrepreneurs, Magic's top 60 places to travel, Magic's top tv shows now you release these lists you'd think hey i'd put my favorite show at the top no then you wouldn't know magic because he released them in alphabetical order except for the godfather was number one of the movies lebron got to him on that one yeah lebron and also i don't know if you saw the uh top 60 shows three stooges the three stooges was number two yeah he moved that up to second place left 21 jump street in first place because it's a numeral uh but yeah he's a big the three stooges fan yeah so what we're gonna do is this is going to be you can use any of the four lists we're gonna do our mount rushmore of selections off of magic Johnson's four lists. And the wrinkle is in the spirit of magic's list, we have to do it alphabetically.
So each list, each of our lists has to be alphabetical. So the top is going to be, it's going to be interesting when we get to the bottom of the list.
You ready, Hank? I'm ready. Cause you're first.
Oh shit. Yeah.
So you really ready? I am ready because, I mean, he had, like, his TV and movie choices were something.

Really bad.

Really bad.

But he had Chappelle's show on there.

Shit!

Greatest show of all time.

Undeniably the number one pick.

I think we all had that as number one.

Chappelle's show is really good.

Yep.

It's a strong one.

Damn it.

Also, I realize this, but making your rankings in alphabetic order is a great way to never leave Beyonce off the list and never piss off the beehive. She's always going to be near the top.
That sucks. All right.
That was going to be my first pick. God damn it.
All right. I'll go with my first pick.
I'll go with the Bahamas. Great place to visit.
Okay. The Bahamas.
Was just there on vacation. There you go.
Yeah. Of course you were.
A couple times. Bahamas are nice, though.
Yeah, beautiful place. Beautiful place.
PFT, you have two. Okay.
I'm going to go with Amsterdam. Good pick.
Not the drugs part. Yep.
Definitely the drug part. The life experience part.
The museum's part. On drugs.
On mushrooms. Not the drug.
Jake, make sure it's written not, parentheses, not the drugs part. Number two, I'm going to go with A-Rod.
Also not the drugs part. Ooh.
Besides the drugs part. You're really hitting the A's.
Yeah. Hammering the A's.
You got to get to them. All right.
I got to do. I'm really bad at the fucking alphabet.
You didn't do it in advance? No, I did. But I kind of went all over the place.

Did I did I read a rod from you?

No, no, no.

You did not.

You did not.

Oh, trouble in paradise.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I'm working on his case.

We'll get to it in a minute.

All right.

What does that have to do with no rush?

I just doesn't really.

I'm worried about his net worth right now.

He doesn't shit where he is.

As an entrepreneur, he lost five hundred thousand dollars.

He got stolen.

All right.

I'll go my second pick.

Goodfellas okay i had to make sure that was i had to make sure it was tough i was having trouble there okay goodfellas i got two yeah jango unchained okay great film fresh prince of bel-air word fredo a Prince of Bel-Air. Good pick.
Okay, I'll go with my third pick.

I'll go MJ, Michael Jordan.

Okay, solid pick.

Yep.

My third, I'm going to go Ray Allen.

Woo!

Getting there.

Yeah, I think we all know why.

I think we all know why.

And my fourth pick, I'm going to go with The Wire.

Ooh.

Because if you're a sports writer, you have to have some sort of inclusion of The Wire

in every single thing that you do. Specifically for today, I'm going to go Season 2 of The Wire.
Ooh, nice. Nice.
Very topical. All my knowledge of the unions was from Season 2 of The Wire.
I'll finish mine with the Sprintles. Easy fourth pick for me.
All right, Hank, what's your fourth? Maui. Maui.
Maui. Hank, loading up on beaches.
Forget Maui. Get those beaches beaches I've never actually been there But I want to go It's on my vacation destination list Why do you want to go to Maui so much? I just heard Hawaii is a great place to go It is It truly is And I just love the way in The Rock When Sean Connery says Forget Maui It's great Okay That really stuck with you Yeah What did we miss? John Madden was a I mean, him having Triple X.
Yeah, John Madden was on there. Him having Triple X as a top 60 movie is like, he must have only seen 60 movies in his life.
I chose to believe that that one was just porn. He wasn't talking about Triple X.
He should have just written X Hamster. I'm not even thinking of the Fast and Furious movies.
Triple X. I got a question.
Stunner. What has Keyshawn Johnson done as an entrepreneur? He's on TV and on the radio.
OK. All right.
That plays. That plays.
Tony Hawk was it was one that was caught my eye. Also, here's an interesting thing.
At number 31 in his list of magic's top 60 films, he has the Bourne Identity. So he moved that one around, too.
Yeah, he Yeah, he did. And that's a classic Magic pick right there.
Yeah. The Mary Tyler Moore show.
Way to date yourself there, Magic. The Oprah Winfrey show.
Pander much? Did he put his own show in there? No, he didn't. The Magic Hour.
That was a great show. Also, a lot of these entrepreneurs, unless they're secret entrepreneurs, what are these people doing? Like what you said with Keyshawn Johnson.
I feel like a lot of these players just retired I think if you have a podcast You're an entrepreneur That's it Dale Earnhardt's on there I didn't even realize he had Brady on there That's a huge mess Also tie off I'm sorry Isaiah Thomas is an entrepreneur in sexual harassment lawsuits. He's a job creator because he freaks out so many female coworkers that there are a lot of open jobs.
Let's see. What other weird movies? Yeah.
Why is Ray Allen a job? Why is he an entrepreneur? I have no idea. I have no idea.
He has a book. I'm pretty sure he exclusively golfs.
Yeah, he has a book, so I guess that counts. Hank makes a good point, though.
If you spend enough time on the golf course, people just assume that you're an entrepreneur. Get a podcast, golf.
You must be a CEO of something. Boom, you're an entrepreneur.
There it goes. All right, yeah.
I don't know what else he has on here. A lot of just weird things.
I feel like I know what type of fan he is, but then he'll throw in a curveball. He's got Scandal on there.
Is it The Matrix? Also, here's what's weird about his top 60 TV shows. He has Judge Judy.
I should have picked that. God damn it.
Judge Judy, Judge Mathis, and The People's Court. He's a big daytime court.
And Law & Order and Law & Order SVU. Yeah.
He hammered that. Fuck.
Hammered it. Tom, I'm sorry.
Actually, the more I look at this, the more the list is just really well done. Yeah, really, really well done.
Yeah, Hank, you're going to be living with that for a while. Yeah.
For a while. Tom Brady.
Damn. That sucks, Hank.
Julian, play this part for Tom. Oh, no, he's listening.
Let him know that Hank has forgotten about him. He had Tom Brady.
He had him easily. He could have picked him at any point pretty much.
Right? Yeah. He had him.
Technically he wasn't even an honorable mention because you had to bring him up. That's true.
I didn't go through the list. Yeah, I was just going through the list and realized that I missed it.
That's a tough one. Tell us which ones you think missed the cut of Magic Johnson's top 60.
You need to – we need to put this out there on the Mount Rushmore, like, quote board with as little explanation as possible. Just Magic's favorite things.
Yeah, because it's – the lists are so stupid. I think Jake should do some homework.
Mine's the Bahamas, Goodfellas, Michael Jordan, and The Sopranos. That makes no sense.
Wait, you didn't have Bahamas. Yeah, I did.
I thought Hank had Bahamas. No, I did.
All these beaches. Yeah, a lot of beach.
I think Jake should go through this list and list what these entrepreneurs have done post-career. Yeah, we could use a little.
I feel like 35 of them. But you know what? We'll get fucked with that.
Because Keyshawn is going to be like, he has 75 Jamba Juices in South Florida. And then we're going to look like assholes.
So don't do that. Ray Allen's probably getting residual checks from He Got Game.
Yes. So that counts as a Jamba.
100% is. All right.
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A what guest? A guest. A very special guest.
It is a guest. I appreciate that.
Matt LaFleur, head coach of the Green Bay Packers. We're going to get into a lot of stuff, but we've got to start with the Achilles and the boot that you're wearing.
Get out of the way what the hell were you doing uh going hard on the basketball court over 30 years old don't you know better i don't know better what what move like tore your achilles it's pretty embarrassing no actually we were playing knockout oh no i will say i was in the final two okay out of how many oh we have a good crew have a good crew. We had a lot of coaches at play.
I mean, sometimes there's almost 20 guys down there. So I was in the final two, but I think I actually airballed the shot.
We were playing from the side. That's the worst.
We make it interesting. We play half-court knockout.
Okay. You were going too hard? Well, no.
I just missed a shot. I went to get a rebound, and it felt like somebody hit me in the back of the leg.
Yeah. I got back, and, of course, nobody's around me, and I pretty much knew right away what had happened.
That's one of those injuries, though, that was going to happen no matter what. I don't know.
I don't know. I think that's the most common injury for guys who keep playing basketball after the age of 30 is their Achilles.
Yeah, no, I hear you. It's amazing, though, how many people I've met that said the same thing happened to them.
Does there need to be some sort of contract stipulation for coaches like there are for players like you can't do this in the offseason, keep you in shape? I'd rather have it for me than the players. That's a good point.
Are you going to be at all in that walking boot on the sidelines i will be i will be but hopefully uh you know week one i'll be out of the boot okay the thing i really want to talk about is that bears hat yeah you see it i don't like it right at it i don't like you want to get into it right away sure all right so uh you got the job in january uh the schedule came out what maybe? Since May, how many times have you woken up in just a sweat being like, Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack, Khalil Mack? Yeah, Khalil Mack, he is a threat to blow up every play, no doubt about it. And you better have a plan for him, otherwise he can wreck a game.
But it's not just Khalil Mack. They've got a lot of good players on that defense.
And, and I mean Hicks is a game wrecker as well and certainly we know the challenge that's in front of us week one in all seriousness are you excited that it's a rivalry game to start off like or were you kind of hoping maybe let's throw out the I don't know let's play the Bucs in Tampa Bay week one maybe ease my way into my my head coaching career. Because it is prime time, first NFL game, rivalry game.
It's going to be bright lights right away. There's no doubt about it.
But I will say this. About this league, you better take every game like you're playing the world champion.
And if you don't, this is a humbling league that will put you down in a hurry. So every game is important.
Is there any additional pressure knowing that you've got like 50,000 extra owners that you have to respond to? Did you go to the owners' meeting? I did not go to the owners' meeting. You know, oh, the owners' meeting in terms of all the fans.
All the Green Bay Packers. Oh, no, yeah, no.
No, we had practice. So we had team meetings.
Got it. So I couldn't make the owners meeting our fish actually owns the team yeah he has a he's got a share yes he does i've met a lot of owners since i've been in green bay he's already putting pressure on you yeah we do we technically are fathers of an owner so our fish does have a stock um so we've talked to your of your buddies, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannon,

have both been on the show.

They are young head coaches.

Have you felt a little of the pressure of, okay, you're 39.

In the NFL history, it's usually an older guy gets a head coaching job.

I see you've got the stubble with little gray hair.

Is that on purpose?

Well, actually, the grays have really been filling in lately. Yeah, that's on purpose, though.
Do you notice it, though, maybe in the locker room? Is it hard to people look at you maybe like, hey, this guy's more my age than coaches I've had in the past? You know, I don't think so. I just try to go and do the best job I can on a daily basis and, you know, communicate with our players and making sure that, you know, I hear their concerns and take those into consideration when we're making decisions.
But ultimately we're always going to make decisions in the best interest of the team. And, but I don't, I don't think you can put a, any type of age on, on leadership.
You know, I, like you said, I saw Sean firsthand i thought he did a as good a job as as anybody i've been around in in terms of getting the respect and the command from the team your beard's much stronger than his like right off the jump i can tell you like that's an alpha beard i actually have i have to apologize to you because the first time we met was at the combine and sean mcveigh used me as like a useful idiot to fuck with you a little bit he sent me up to you to introduce myself and then he was like tell him you didn't like his play calling in week 17 against the colts and i was like okay and then i looked at your face and you look so sad and i was like shit you know what sean just used me as like psychological warfare sure against you so i'd like to offer you the opportunity what do you want me to just like hit him in the nuts next time i see him? That'd be great. He deserves it.
He deserves it. He does.
He used to abuse me when I was an assistant for him. So what would he do? What do you mean? What would he do to like, you know, just, so we're pretty close.
Right. And so, um, I just think, you know, you kind of, if you're close with people, you tend to let your guard down a little bit and can take out some of your frustrations on the ones that you're closest to and um because you know they're always going to have your back in the end right Kyle was the same way right right did uh did Sean McVay's uh photographic memory ever piss you off I feel like that'd be so annoying to be around it's pretty it's pretty ridiculous right his memory is unlike anybody I've ever been around and uh it's funny because whenever we had team meetings he'd always quiz the guys on just kind of some of the culture stuff that we'd talk about and as soon as he started asking questions you can hear every notebook in the room opening up and and i'm like sean you're the only guy that can memorize all this stuff man the rest of us got to write this down because nobody wanted to get embarrassed in front of the team.
Yeah. So you go out to Tennessee and you coach with one of our other guys, Mike Vrabel.
Who's a bigger bro, Mike Vrabel or McVay? A bigger bro? Yeah. Who's more bro-y? I mean, like, that's a – you've got to go with Vrabel.
You have to. He's a guy's guy.
No, but Sean's a guy's guy. Yeah, but Vrabel's a guy's dude.
No, Sean's a guy's dude, too. That's my guy.
You talk about one of my best friends in life. You guys still get in touch pretty closely? I thought you meant more of who's going to go wreck shop.
Yeah, Mike Vrabel's that guy. Yeah, he won't turn anything turn anything now do you did you guys joke at all about you know obviously you you had to have seen the internet ran wild with hey if you had a beer with Sean McVay you got a head coaching job um do you I mean you saw it right I would assume uh yeah I mean like everybody talks about that so it is what it is does Sean I mean does Sean kind of make funny like does he razz you guys because he's like, hey, I'm a kingmaker here.
No, I think honestly, I think he's – Sean's a pretty humble guy, and I think it's almost embarrassing. He's always like, stop, stop, whenever anything like that comes up.
Yeah. So now you're in charge.
This is like your first camp that you're running on your own. I've always wondered, like, you're trying to get control of this whole team.
What are your policies on fighting in camp? No tolerance. There we go.
Zero. Zero tolerance.
At all? At all. You fight, you're out.
You sit out the rest of that practice for the day? Yeah, just for the day. And don't get me wrong.
Skirmishes are going to happen. It's just you don't want to see haymakers being thrown, especially when it's your own teammate.
You know, you've got to protect. We always talk about putting the team first and, you know, taking care of each other, and that's just something that the guys have done a really good job with throughout camp.
Right. Even if it's against the other team, even if, like, J.J.
Watt is starting to milk a hip injury a little bit too much. Yeah, you know, like we had an incident versus Houston where one of our guys got laid out pretty good, and our guys came to his defense, but there were no punches thrown.
Probably smart. Have you – so Green Bay obviously is a very unique place and a unique town because it is a small town with just a football stadium in the middle of it.

Have you had that experience yet where you're at the grocery store

and people stop you?

It's not like coaching in New York or L.A. or Chicago.

You are with the people basically every day.

Have you had that moment yet?

I haven't gone to a grocery store.

Oh.

You know I'm married, right?

Yeah, no, I know, but I don't know. Maybe you have to go get the groceries.
don't know you gotta go grab the milk gotta get toilet paper yeah yeah no honestly so like the first few months that i lived here i i stayed at lodge kohler and we have such a fantastic setup here with everything you really need so i'd i'd wake up in the morning i'd walk across i'd drive across the street go to work drive back across the street, go to bed. I mean, that was the extent of it.
You know, I've been out to restaurants and whatnot, but the people here are pretty respectful of your privacy. They're good people here.
Do you call it soda or pop? I call it soda. Yeah, we got to work on that.
I know. Midwest is probably more pop.
It would definitely endear you to the local community if you just started tossing on a pop every now and then. Also, if you gained like 50 pounds.
I can do either. Yeah.
Put on 50 pounds and you could be a Packer coach for life. Ooh, also.
Is that a prerequisite? I mean, you are a little too. Yeah.
What are you trying to prove with your weight right now? Like you think you're better than everyone? Actually, I look kind of sloppy right now because I haven't been able to work out. Yeah, but I know there's probably some muscles under that shirt.
What, are you going to go to the beach? Come on. It is true that the Packers have a long history of coaches that are well insulated against the cold.
Here's two other tips for being a Packers coach since you're new at it. In the preseason, just tell everybody, like, the tight end position, we're going to really utilize the tight end position this year.
That happens, like, every single year in the past. Like, Aaron Rodgers finally has his tight end.
That and also we have a running back this year. If you can just say those two things and prep for the season, you're good.
We are going to do that. There you go.
Tell me about how you learned it. I passed the test.
I know why Sean liked you. Tell me about how the packers are going to use the tight end position this year we're going to use utilize them both in the run and the pass they're gonna be a weapon for us here's another one change your name to mike yeah because the packers i think it's like maybe 20 games in the last 30 years that has been coached by a guy not named mike so you should change your name to mike that's my my brother's name, so I can't do that.
Maybe swap your brother out. He coaches.
We could do that. Where is he right now? He's with Kyle in San Francisco.
Okay. So he might be the guy that you need to bring in here.
Just be like, we got a Mike on staff. Yeah, we try to get him.
I've also noticed, you guys, all the reports coming out of training camp are that you're using the fullback as a weapon this year. Oh, absolutely.
You love Danny Vitale. Yeah, Danny's been awesome.
So what is, I guess fullback has kind of been phased out of the NFL over the course of the last 10 years, but there are some teams like, Kyle's bringing it back a little bit in San Francisco. Yeah, with Jusik.
Yeah, exactly. How are you guys using it? Very similar.
I mean, we want to be a 21. We want to be able to run everything out of 21 personnel.
And, you know, a lot of teams don't see that anymore. So it is a little bit of an advantage, especially if you get a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield, similar to how they use juice in San Francisco.
And really, both Danny and Malcolm Johnson have done a great job for us. We're going to get right back to the show.
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Is Aaron Rodgers difficult to get along with or very difficult to get along with? None of the above. Oh, okay.
All right, is your relationship but seriously it's under a microscope i know it's under a microscope and i i was wondering from what you've learned in the past because there was a famous kyle shanahan matt ryan maybe not on the same page go get a beer boom he wins the mvp and you guys go to the super bowl have you had a lot of beers with erin yeah have you had? Yeah. Have you had the moment where you guys have sat down, just the two of you talking shop and getting on the same page like that? Honestly, we have those all the time.
Yeah. And, you know, we try to, it's just getting to know each other, getting to know, you know, what he likes, what he feels comfortable with within our scheme.
But, you know, just when we first started off, it was more about implementing our scheme so he understands it and then trying to take things that he's done really well in his past which there are a lot of them and then how do they fit within our offense and I think it's it's coming along good and still we're still not there yet but we're I think we're on our way do you got do you like recognize the fact that basically you're going to under a microscope from the Bleacher Report article that was written and everything that finished last year that no matter what, you have to be ready if you guys even look at each other the wrong way on the sidelines. I'm going to be tweeting that video and be like, trouble in paradise.
Yeah. Yeah.
I got eyes. I will be honest with you.
I did not read that Bleacher Report article,

and I just don't have time for that, to be honest with you.

Were you concerned at all when you saw the video of Aaron

trying to chug a beer at the Bucs game,

and he only got like a third of the way down?

Was that a big red flag?

No, no.

He's a Scotch guy.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

He said that.

But then you see Baker going out there,

biting into a can with his teeth and pounding it.

There's not like a little bit.

I didn't see that. Yeah.
Yeah, he shotgunned it by biting the shotgun hole with his teeth. So you're impressed.
You're already impressed by that. I got to give you a compliment, which I don't want to do.
You've done a really good job of becoming a NFL coach and saying you haven't seen anything on social media or whatever. That's smart of you.
I appreciate that. Yeah.
Yeah. Just being like, oh, I didn't see that.
I didn't see that. I don't read that.

That's smart. Because I know you do,

but it's smart of your answer.

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Here's a fun game we play.

It's called Explain in Detail What the First 15 Plays Will Look Like on September 5th. Explain in detail? We ask this to every coach.
Every single coach gets this question. So we give the game plan? Yeah, yeah.
In detail. What do we run in first play? I don't know.
You guys are going to have to wait and see. Okay.
You got a little something up your sleeve? Nobody ever runs a flea flicker first play. Actually, a buddy of mine has been trying to tell me to do that for years.
Okay. Yeah.
You should do it. It's great until it doesn't work.
Right. It sounds great.
Yeah. Until Khalil Mack is in the backfield sacking the quarterback before he gets the ball.
When you guys make it to the Super Bowl, can we get a sweet? Sean told us we could have one last year. Yeah.
Yeah. And he said that we could also call the first play we won't ask you for the first play we're just trying to take care of the bears week one yeah one game at a time give me a prediction next year that will hold you to i i don't make ten and six i can't do it here you got ten and six okay better than ten six i mean come on i just i mean one week at a.
Yeah. Can we go back to the Super Bowl real quick? Sure.
I know it was obviously painful, but what lessons did you learn from that game? You were the quarterback's coach for Matt Ryan. And what, if you could have done anything different, obviously you're not calling the plays in that situation, but I would assume you're in the conversation and how everything went down.
Like, did you many, many times in your head? I think we all have. Certainly, hindsight's 20-20, and in the moment you're trying to do the best job you can.
The one thing I've always said is the way Kyle called plays all year was aggressive, and it worked for us, and he did a great job. We wouldn't have been there without that type of mindset and mentality and don't get me wrong we had unbelievable players when you have Matt Ryan when you have Julio Jones uh Devante Freeman Mo Sanu Alex Mack we had we had a lot of really great players but uh you know we are aggressive and it didn't pan out and it is what it is.

I'm also interested in talking a little bit about your years in Washington. So you were the quarterback's coach for both Kirk Cousins and RG3 that year, which I imagine, to your credit, you did a very good job developing both of them.
But those are two very different quarterbacks that you were coaching that year. Like when you have two guys like that that you're working with one steps in for the other

How did you decide okay, which elements are we keeping from robert griffin's offense which is like taking the league by storm and trying to adapt them to kurt cousins which is like a totally different quarterback yeah no that that's a great question and thank you that is a great question um you know so like we we took the whole offseason really studying what Robert had done at Baylor, and we were trying to figure out how we could implement that and still do our core run concepts as well as our past concepts. And it's really a credit to Kyle just putting that whole thing together and having that vision of what we could come up with and really it was a pretty seamless transition believe it or not when we went from going from Robert to Kirk because the only thing that we kind of eliminated was it was a lot of the zone read stuff but a lot of the same concepts from a past game where this were were just done with different actions and then from a running game standpoint it's not like we just majored in zone read we've still ran our outside zone and um but we just we took a little bit obviously took a little bit less of the zone reen element when kirk was stepped right also helped that you were playing the browns that game that was like a nice bonus it's like kirk cousins first game is going to be against the team it started off rough yeah it started off rough i think we had like three three outs in a row so like pulling back the curtain a little bit on how the an offensive uh coaching staff works when you're a quarterbacks coach how much input do you get in the game plan is it very much back and forth with the offensive coordinator or does the offensive coordinator come up with the game plan and then you're just like, OK, this is it.
We're going to just practice this. No, so it's been pretty similar wherever I've been in terms of everybody's got an area of expertise that they're working on.
And, you know, I think as a coordinator, you're always open to listening to everybody's ideas. And then it's your responsibility to decipher okay how does this fit within the framework of our offense and how we're trying to attack that that particular defense now switching now to your head coaching job by the way we're we're in the uh packers uh media room which is right by where there's a lot of i I don't know what's going on out there.
There's something. They're moving stuff around.
Always going on out there. They're hard at work.
So switching now to being a head coach, has it been different or difficult to have to like take a step back a little bit when it comes to your area of expertise or being maybe like micromanaging pieces that you can't do anymore because now you're the head coach and you're in charge of everyone? Yeah, no, I'm kind of maneuvering through that right now. I feel really good about the staff.
We were able to hire with Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getze. You know, Luke had been here before as a receiver coach, and that helped kind of with the transition in terms of how we're implementing some stuff that they've done in the past here.
But, no, I've got good people around me. Adam Stenevich is our O-line coach.
He came from San Francisco, so he's been in this scheme before he really takes the load off with the run game. And same with Justin Outenon who was in Atlanta for the past three years now

he's our tight end coach so we've got a lot of good guys around me to to kind of help you know

navigate through that whole process of game planning and to be quite honest in the preseason

there's not a whole lot of game planning going on you know you're more or less running your your

your core concepts just your your base foundation of an offense but as we progress into the season

Thank you. on you know you're more or less running your your your core concepts just your your base foundation of an offense but as we progress into the season that's where more that's that's going to come into play and you know i know there's going to be more uh requirements in terms of like media requests and all that stuff that i just got to figure out how we're going to navigate we're going to be a nightmare for you guys oh yeah the big.
Big time. I'm going to come after you.
Are you going to keep the – I can't remember who told us that Mike McCarthy, he used to do a thing where if the Packers were on like a losing streak, they would stay at a worse and worse hotel. Are you going to keep that tradition alive? No.
Okay. So five class.
So your team's soft. If that's what you want to call it.
Yeah, five class. We're going to tryitz, Carlton.
You know what? I don't handle the team travel. It's actually an awesome move by him.
I loved hearing that. Who told us that story? I have no idea.
I think you dreamt that. No, I swear to God.
I think you definitely made that up. You back it up? I'm getting a no.
So I maybe made that up. Definitely made it up.
Okay, well then I'm a genius because that's a good move. If your team's doing bad, make them stay in a shitty hotel.
Have you coordinate the travel? Okay, great. You guys do not make any game time.
Whoops. Sorry, connecting flights to all your games.
Are you still doing the Lombardi time? Is it Lombardi time or Coughlin time? No, it's be on time. Okay.
Being early is being on time. so we say be on time be prepared so if a meeting starts at 9 a.m you better be in your seat ready to go at 9 a.m okay okay what about the standard is the standard the standard the standard is always the standard what does that mean yeah it means there's the standard and that it's the standard it is what do you guys have like a slogan that you're putting on the back of your t-shirts no not yet yeah the standard is the standard yeah that's what we got that from sean yeah well he got it from anthony lynn who got it from mike tomlin who got it from some dude who's super hey that's all we do in this league everybody it's a copycat league yeah um all right i wanted to ask you a question about my favorite college football conference in the world.
That's the Mac. You're a big Mac guy.
I love Mac-tion. Yeah, Mac-tion.
You played for Mac school. What is it? I did not play for Mac.
Wait. Well, I guess I did.
Yeah, you did. But I didn't play play.
Okay, but you were at a Mac school. I was.
And then you also coached a little at a Mac school. Yes.
So what is it about the Mac? Because you could go down the list, like Nick Saban, Brian Kelly, Urban Meyer. You've got Miami, Ohio, the cradle coaches.
The cradle coaches. Sean McVay.
Sean. Bo Schembechler.
Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes, right.
So it's actually incredible when you look at it and you're like, this little conference has all these coaches. What is it about the Mac? And maybe it's the hunger in the coaches or whatever it may be produces all these guys that's a great question thank you i've never thought about it yeah i think i don't know i think a lot of guys just start out early in their career at a lower level and not that the max i mean.
It's a lower level. You don't see other small conferences producing the type of talent in the coaching world that the Mac does.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know if it's coincidence or – I think it's just the state of Ohio. There's something about Ohio that makes football coaches.
What about Michigan? Michigan's good too. Yeah.
Absolutely. That's where I'm from.
Yeah, I know. But Ohio doesn't – Right now, it's like you go the list.
The coaches that we listed, plus Tack, like Jim Trestle. Bob Stoops.
The Stoopses. The Pelinis.
Both Pelinis. Sure.
The Grudens. All those guys.
It's just something about Ohio. And Urban from Ohio? What? Is Urban from Ohio? Yes, I think so.
But he's not a coach. He's never come back.
He's retired. Yeah, he's totally retired.
For life. Yeah, exactly.
That's my reaction as well. My last question for you is kind of like an X's nose type question, believe it or not.
They made a rule change this year for pass interference where you're going to be able to challenge it a little bit. It's going to be, you know, it certainly looks like it's going to favor the offense.
Have you sat down and thought about how you can take advantage of the fact they're going to be calling it more tightly this year? I don't know. Is that a word? More tighter to call it tighter this year have you sat down and thought like here's maybe how we could implement i don't know more back shoulder throws or more a certain type of other throw yeah but the thing is if they don't throw a penalty or they don't throw a flag it and you're going to challenge it you better know that it was pi so i think there's i think that's something that we're going to figure out throughout the course of the preseason and early on into the regular season is just exactly how are these plays going to get overturned or whatnot.
But honestly, I think it could be an advantage from a defensive perspective considering that all scoring plays are under automatic review. And you see a lot of rub and or pick plays down in that red area.
So it could actually help the defense. Are you a red area or a red zone guy? I'm the red area.
Okay. I always find that.
What about the red area starting at the 22-yard? Bob Diaco. High red? Yeah, he did that.
Yeah, 22-yard. It was 22 and in was the red area.
I worked with Bob Diaco. Did you? I did.
What was he like? At Central Michigan. Did you know? Okay, so he hadn't.
Did you see the crazy in his eye? Like, that guy at some point in his life is going to create a rivalry trophy out of nowhere with UCF did you see that in his eyes yeah I saw okay yeah that's he's got that crazy in his eyes unbelievable I mean that rivalry trophy is the greatest rivalry trophy of all time civil conflict I actually lost it I like the clock better than the trophy the countdown until the civil conflict in the locker room civil conflict you don't choose who your rivals are um all right my last question is i think you like me and i want you to know that i don't like you good question okay okay i still like you no see don't do that don't do that how can you not like you i mean no don't do that don't do that as soon as i see you on the sidelines when you're coaching week one i'm like this guy fuck him he's the worst unless you lose I'll be like, oh, I love Matt LaFleur. He can coach for them forever.
I'll still dap you up. Yeah.
I'm going to come look for you. Okay.
You need to get the rivalry juiced up a little and be like. I know.
That's why we hired a Buckus. Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.
Luke Buckus. You got to do Lovie Smith when he was like, we're going to beat the Packers.
You've got to be like, we're going to beat the Bears. We're going to get the rivalry going.

We're going to have a great game versus the Bears.

I like it.

I'll tell you what.

It's got a lot of respect for them.

Your personality is disarming, and I don't like it.

Let's end this interview. I have a last, last question.

Has Aaron Rodgers slipped into that fake Southern accent thing that he did

like he did after the Bears game last year?

He was like, oh, my knee hurt so bad. I have not heard that one yet be on the lookout for that i will laughs all right matt lafleur thank you very much i do like you but i don't guaranteed better than i don't actually like you but i like like you're nice and you're a great guy but after this it's on.
Okay, it can be on. Okay.
It's on.

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Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have hurt or injured Andrew Luck.
Stop me if you've heard this before, but Andrew Luck has a weird random injury that might keep him out for a lot longer than everyone expects. Yep, it's an annual tradition that we go through here.
I don't know what, I mean, fine last year well it was after he threw the vortex then the children's football then the college football then the real football now we have to be worried about the calf his calf injury has migrated into an ankle injury oh no so it's always an ankle injury he's dealing with a bone issue in his ankle which doesn't sound like a calf't know. I'm not a doctor, but I think that if your muscle gets sore enough, then it can break.
I don't know. So he's sitting out the entire preseason, which who the fuck cares? A preseason, I don't.
I'm very much the preseason doesn't matter one way or the other. What did you say? Swag.
Yeah. That's that sound that you hear right now.
It does matter. Swag standing right behind you.
You're right. But did Swag go Tonya Harding on him i wouldn't put it past i don't think i don't think he had to i think andrew luck just let him walk around enough and something's gonna happen so what i don't like if you're a colts fan what do you do when andrew luck just every it seems like every year has an injury that makes no sense and you just don't get any report about it yeah i think you just have to bite down on a piece of wood and hope for the best it's turned calf strain has turned into a high ankle issue exactly i don't know how that works yeah i don't think that's like being like oh yeah my sniffles turned into the flu i was gonna say yeah my sniffles turned into frostbite on the bottom of my feet how how does the calf okay so i don't know all all i know is the most important story to come out of this was what Chad Ochoacinco advised Andrew Luck to do.
He said, Adam, first of all, he called him Adam, not Andrew.

I soaked my ankle in warm urine to heal all my lower extremity injuries.

Notice I was never injured my entire career.

Please pass along my message.

It's a home remedy.

So he was telling that to Adam Schefter to tell it to Andrew Luck. So just on yourself andrew yeah do it do it you can do this and uh i mean i think at this point andrew luck is he'll take any he went to germany for his shoulder um and now poop on you in germany yeah now yeah that is true scat porn and now he's just got to piss all over his ankle it's not jellyfish it's not gonna hurt anything if you pee on your feet are you sure i've done it many times it's true and i did break my foot while i was walking so next some dots i don't know um all right we have the pmt sports biz update with our darling jake by the way jelly football just showing up today yeah back yeah she hasn't been here for a month and then she just walked in and

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we don't know we thought you were just our twitter friend now yeah so we'll have to figure out what

to do with chili hopefully maybe friday we can figure this out we'll figure something out for

yeah but either way we do have an intern that actually shows up every day and it's jake so

here it is the pmt sports minute sports biz minute good morning this is jake marsh with the pmt

Thank you. We do have an intern that actually shows up every day, and it's Jake.
So here it is, the PMT Sports Biz Minute. Good morning.
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Mr. Cat, Mr.
Commenter, back to you. All right, Jake.
Very cool, Jake. Yeah, check out Jake on Twitter.
He's given us facts. You're going to give us what Ray Allen and Keyshawn Johnson have done as entrepreneurs, minus all the Jamba juices, right? All right, so that's your homework.
Next up, we have a way to stay relevant, baseball. I looked it up.
Keyshawn Johnson was on a weekend TV series on A&E in 2008. Oh, I remember that.
Keyshawn Johnson tackling design. He did do NFL countdown for a while, right? He was on countdown.
He's done a lot of studio shows. Yeah.
And I guess he's got an investment business or whatever. For a while.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because Mike Ditka would just like stare at him and fart. Yeah.
Just fall asleep. The hell are you talking about? All right.
So way to stay relevant. Baseball.
Major League Baseball released their 2020 schedule yesterday. Also the same day the NBA released their schedule.
Yeah. At the same time.
What the fuck is baseball doing? They couldn't have picked a worse time to do that if they had tried. If they had sat down and figured out the worst possible time would have been at that exact moment.
And they did it.

So, good job.

But we're talking about it.

I did look at it, and I'm just going to say, if any AWLs out there work at the Marriott at the Sky Dome,

it's always been a dream of mine to go watch the Cubs play in that hotel that's in the stadium.

Oh, the ones that people could see people fucking in.

Yes.

Okay.

So, I'm not going to fucking it, but I will bring my Four Loko tube.

That's a promise. In the window.
Which is guaranteed not to be fucked. Yes.
It's going to sit right there. Seriously, someone hooked me up.
This might be just a genius strategy that Major League Baseball has, is being so bad at marketing themselves that they get more marketing by people talking about how bad their marketing strategy is. Right.
Yeah, I guess that's true. It's just roast us.
Right. If it's just schedule release day and you're like, oh, there's a baseball schedule too.

I guess that's better than just releasing it and everyone not even realizing it was released. We probably wouldn't talk about the baseball schedule getting released.

Good.

Unless this had happened.

Good point.

All right.

And again, but see, look, yeah, you did it.

All right.

Last up before we get to guys on chicks, we have a thoughts and prayers for a rod.

He had $500,000 of jewelry stolen from in san francisco i'm on the

case where his world series rings yeah what that that is that is the first question you should ask

how does a man have five hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry in his car fucking rich was he

planning on proposing to somebody else he uh valued barstool at one billion dollars okay so

he's rich interesting i don't know how that makes him rich yeah but dude if you say it's big enough

Thank you. else he uh valued barstool at one billion dollars okay so he's rich interesting i don't know how that makes him rich yeah but dude if you say it's big enough numbers that's good then that's good okay yeah we should sell to him for a billion yes we should one bill you should be like a rod you were so smart and you're right one bill one billion dollars yeah so i don't know what i it's a major flex to have that much stolen from you right like that's the one spin zone here to have five hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry stolen for you that's pretty cool unless it's like a drew breeze situation where the like rings weren't worth as much as what you bought them for oh that's a drew breeze should just said he got a shit stolen right instead of being like oh i bought a huge cubic zirconia right you just flush that down the like, I got my diamond ring stolen.
Yeah, someone took my bling bling. So, yeah, I'm on the case.
I'm going to get to the bottom of it. And by that, I mean I'm just going to go on Twitter until someone finds it and be like, job well done.
Or just search Craigslist in Oakland. That's true.
That's true. See if anyone has $500,000 worth of jewelry.
Yeah, I'm sure they went right to Craigslist. Does Craigslist still exist? I don't know.
Hank, does it exist? Yeah. Okay.
We're let go guys. Yeah.
We don't use. Big time.
Big time let go. It's the new wave.
All right. Last up.
Let go should just lean into like we've never been shut down for human trafficking. Boom.
Craigslist. Can't say that.
Hey, remember 2002? Neither do we. Let go.
Let go go let go um all right so uh special edition guys on chicks guys in labor why why are we doing guys in labor oh boy where do we start everyone's unionizing and bar still isn't well so last night i guess dave started well tonight two days ago the ringer unionized that's right the ringer because we'reized. Because Rusillo got like a $500 million contract.
Yeah. That was unreported.
It's my hypothesis that he was sent over there by ESPN to become an inside agitator, start a union, and then try to tear the ringer down from the inside, then go back to ESPN clapping his hands. I did it, boss.
Yep. It's kind of suspect that he still has four podcasts left on ESPN.
That's just what I'm saying. I don't know if it's true.
Shout out Ryan, by the way. Good friend of ours.
Now it's going to the ringer and then tweeting out, still got four ESPN podcasts. But yeah, so the ringer, they unionized a couple days ago.
And then our boss, Dave, said that he would crush. Smash it.
Smash any unionizing efforts like a grape, I believe is what he said. Correct.
Which is against the law. Apparently.
To say that. He should have said, I'll eat any union like a grape in three bites like Mike Greenberg.
Yeah. At least give you a chance to live.
Exactly. Or like, I'll eat someone's ass.
Right. Right.
Yeah, so it is against the law. He broke the law.
Is he going to jail? I kind of hope he goes to jail. Although, if Dave went to jail, it's actually jail for us because then he'll tell us about jail all the time.
He will never let that go. Right.
He'll be like prison Mike all the time. He did go to jail for Andrew Goodell, and he talked about it nonstop.
Yeah. So that's jail for us.
Don't put him in jail. Yeah, so then we got into the whole unionization conversation today about whether or not Barstool should unionize.
Hand up. I didn't know shit about unions.
All I knew about unions was I've seen Newsies twice. I still don't know shit about unions.
Yeah. I like literally that's one of those things where if you'd ask me, listen, I'm not the smartest guy.
I think I know a little bit about a lot of it, but unions definitely didn't know a lot about that. Yeah.
I think unions are good across the board. big union everything i've learned yeah i'd agree yes you we have educated you a little bit oh dude i when i said i was like i think unions are good but not for us everyone's like you're a fucking scab and a bootlicker i was like dude what did i say yeah so i learned that language is very important the language please come at you when it comes to unions i learned that they definitely do i also learned that i have equity so i actually am like i can't we should i'm getting my boots lit we should unionize against you yeah i shouldn't comment about unionization about our union efforts because little late for that yeah way late so way i blew that one everybody else in the room can unionize against big cat on this show yeah and then we can have all the powers what as your boss i welcome that you're not you've recognized the union uh yeah so the thing about unions i think a lot of people were thinking like oh if you unionize against your boss then it means that you are not happy with the way things are correct i thought that i think and you know what what i've learned Still don't understand.
So Hank, in theory, you could unionize right now, and just part of your union bargaining could be, if this is what you want it to be, I want everything the way that it is right now. And so while that wouldn't change anything.
But you've got to pay fees. You would pay a little bit of a fee.
That's true. Got to throw that out there.
I don't do that in general. Be fair to both sides.
That's true. You got to pay fees.
But then if Barstool were to get sold to somebody that didn't want to treat you good, it would still be in your contract that they had to treat you good. Damn.
Well. Treat you well.
So we've all learned a lot today. Yeah.
Sure. So bottom line, I still don't understand unions.
All I know is that I am pro-union. I still don't understand how a union would work for Barstool, but I'm in a position where I can't talk about it.
Okay. Well, here come a bunch of questions that are all basically union centric.
So let's do it. Let's do it.
Guys in labor. If one person in your union has sex, does that mean by default you also had sex? Yes.
That's actually – No, the law is very clear on this. Okay, so PFT – I've been – I was in a union and I claimed that I lost my virginity.
So, yes. PFT, here's another question as our resident union lawyer, labor lawyer.
If I wanted to start a union but my only grievance was for Chernurning to pay off all my gambling debts is that okay I believe you could request that I'm in a union I declare unionship alright which union such as garbage construction laborers plumbers etc do you think has the toughest members pipefitters steamfitters maybe the welders yeah well welders are dude welders just walk around with fire all day fire and iron what about the underwater welders are they special kind of steam fitters i think insulators insulators that's the silent killer that's true that's what they say uh yeah maybe refrigeration because like you got to deal with people bitching they only call you when the refrigerator is broken. I'm actually going to say digital media.
Probably the toughest. Yeah, that's the part.
That's really the part that I don't understand how digital media has unions. But that's, again, I'm learning.
I'm a little egg. I'm learning my union everything.
And someday I'll learn to fly. I don't know where I'm going to go with that.
Learn to fly. Oh, I'm in a union, so it's fine.
Union suggestion. Join the firefighters union and get them to drive by Pete's house with sirens on all night until he gets the podcast room fixed Thursday, Friday's podcast.
There's going to be no issues. No, that's what we've been told on Thursday during the day, except I talked to Pete yesterday.
Oh, no. And here's what Pete told me.
Just so that you're aware, there might be some residual noise while you guys are recording. I was like, Pete, those are two big words.
What does that mean? He was like, well, they're going to be fixing the windows in other rooms nearby. And so that you might be able to hear the sirens through those.
So basically, it still might be fucking noisy on Thursday. It might be noisy on Thursday, but we think it's going to be fixed on Thursday.
And because I know I hate Pete and we go back and forth a million times. He is actually getting this fixed.
So I'm going to give him another 50 Madden codes to give out to the people. Oh, that's nice.
At all business Pete. At all business Pete.
He will give him out. He's got FIFA codes too.
He's got FIFA codes. He's got Madden codes.
I am going to do that out of the goodness of my heart for you people. Tweet it all business.
Pete asked for those Madden codes. My boyfriend almost always has lint in his belly button.
Is this a common thing? How does this happen? What does that have to do with unions? We're talking about unions. Oh, the blessed union of marriage.
Yeah, the belly button. Ooh, deep belly buttons union.
Yeah. We want rights.
Yeah, four nippleers of America. Yeah, okay.
unionize everything no i don't know i'm kind of i think you can i think you can declare uh but yeah it's yeah everyone has belly button if you if you don't have belly button lint then it's a problem okay yeah i agree i mean you've got i've got a full fucking shirt out of my belly button at night yeah rick riley told me remember yeah that's right yeah kinetic what will that literally like it's disgusting uh this isn't really a uh question it's more of just a a roast or statement okay the majority of your audience is middle class hence a lot of union labor workers facts i'm in the local 134 labor union in chicago and if you guys think me or any of my co-workers are going to support a company that blasts unions, you have another thing coming.

Don't blast unions.

Yep.

We are.

We like anti-blasting union.

Next question from a separate person.

Is shooting unionizers immoral?

Shooting them?

Shooting them?

Shooting.

Shooting?

That's the question.

People is immoral.

Because Mr. Portnoy threatened to shoot me.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yes the question people is immoral mr because mr portnoy oh yeah to shoot me yes yeah yeah yes that is very immoral yeah and i listen i don't even know i actually have no idea where dave stands at this point i think a lot of it is shtick um but we if you were writing in from a union we got your back but we might not unionize but i've said too much i've said too much just there here's i'm just walking on eggshells here's the thing i don't know what the fuck here's the thing i'll take this one for you thank you uh it's okay to not start a union correct but but however you should be able to have the conversation of whether or not you should want to without somebody saying that he'll fire you if you do are unions basically fight club Yeah. exactly now you don't ever talk about now you get it now you get it here are a good question regarding that some fellow current bootlickers oh dude i've been called i got called a bootlicker like a billion times today and i'll tell you man it hurts every time i live in the south and was told by my last employer that if a union rep came onto the property that we were to report him to our facility manager, he would call the police and have the rep charged with trespassing.

Other than that, we have fantastic benefits.

So that's kind of where you have to draw the line to determine what's best.

Okay.

Gotcha.

So it is very confusing.

Unions are just like people, right? They're good. They're good people and there are bad people everywhere.
Yeah. Every single walk of life.
For the most part, I think unions do a great job. Like teachers, firefighters.
Unions gave us weekends. Exactly.
Weekends. But I still might not be for the union.
But we work on Sundays, though. Yeah.
So we need to. Well, that's because we choose to.
I got to say. Or else Big Cat will fire us.
I know people are mad at Dave, and they have every right to be mad at Dave. But him just saying that he would go and smash random unions, that's funny.
Yeah. It's like, I'll go to the Daily Beast and smash.
I did notice. He thinks he's Mario, and he can just jump around and jump on people.
He thinks he's a Pinkerton for hire. Here's the last.
This is the last question in regard to that. Sup, boys, especially DipCat.
Union question. Did nine dips today.
Obviously. Nine.
Pouches or snooze? Nine. Obviously, you guys on PMT have said you have the perfect job and that all your benefits are taken care of.
Correct. Is Dave just talking a bunch of shit because he knows that he has the support of his employees? Also, Packers plus three.
No, I think Dave's just

he made the initial tweet

and he saw it, got a reaction, and then he was like

I'm going to double and double down and triple

down on all of this because I see

that people are talking about me. But there

is an element where, and I don't

I haven't talked to every single person

at Barstool about unions, but I would

say a lot of people at Barstool are very

very happy. That's not saying that I don't.

What are you going to say,

boss?

Things.

People get paid very well and people seem to be very happy here,

but I don't know if that means we should unionize or not.

Right.

Right.

But we can have the conversation and choose not to.

That's our choice.

I will allow the.

No,

no,

no,

no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the... No, no, no.
No, no, no. It's not up to you.
No, no, no. I would welcome the conversation.
There you go. Thank you.
Thank you. As an owner of Boots.
This is what Simmons is going to say whenever he comments on it. Yo, this is the best.
Bill Simmons lucked into this day. Yeah, this is crazy.
Because holy shit. If he comes out and he's like, fuck these guys, that would be...
The internet will just go aflame. Yeah.
So, yeah. There's a part of me that thinks that what Dave was doing part at Shtick

today is exactly what Bill Simmons wants to do for real.

I agree with that.

You should just hire Dave to smash the radio union.

Dave is a fucking, he really does think he could go around smashing unions,

so might as well just hire him.

Yep.

All right.

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