Stone Cold Steve Austin + Mount Rushmore Of Sports Movie Characters

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Stone Cold Steve Austin in studio. Awesome interview.

Speaker 1 I fanboyed out. I apologize.
Actually, I apologize to no one. That was an interview of a lifetime for me.
PFT, thank you for letting me fanboy out.

Speaker 1 I definitely, there was a few moments where I was just Chris Farley in the Paul McCartney sketch, just being like, hey, Stone Cold, remember that time? Remember that time? That was fucking sick.

Speaker 1 But yeah, wouldn't you say, Hank, you were laughing during the interview. You say it was one of the funniest interviews we've done.

Speaker 3 Mount Rushmore. Yeah, and Stone Cold's electric.

Speaker 1 And I'm not even a huge wrestling fan.

Speaker 3 Like, that was before my time, and I was still loving it.

Speaker 1 So we have that. We also have Mount Rushmore of sports movie characters.
Should be a good one. We have Antonio Brown, a little Brooks Kepka.
We have to defend his honor.

Speaker 1 And then a Monday reading for Jeffrey Epstein. So.
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Speaker 1 And I was going to say Antonio Brown's lost his mind, but that happened like six months ago. So he's just lost his helmet.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe his brain is inside of his helmet. I don't know.
So

Speaker 2 I want to just start off by saying, like, I actually think Antonio Brown is, I think there's something wrong with him. I think that he's like going crazy.
He's had like

Speaker 2 an actual mental break. That doesn't mean that we can't joke around about the whole helmet saga because that is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 But I actually think that there's something wrong with the guy, so I kind of feel bad.

Speaker 2 But we've got great jokes about it.

Speaker 1 Well, I would agree with you. I think when he dyed his mustache blonde, that was probably sign number one.
There also is like a weird, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 Like, there's, we're going to make some jokes about it because it is the number one story this weekend.

Speaker 1 But it is a weird feeling being like, okay, so this guy is kind of going off the reservation, and on top of all that, he is arguing that he wants to wear a helmet that has been deemed unfit by the NFL.

Speaker 1 That feels a little too on the nose about all the brain health and everything.

Speaker 1 When Antonio Brown's losing his mind and being like, no, no, no, I want to wear this helmet that will not properly protect my brain. I assume that's what the new helmets are doing.
I would hope.

Speaker 1 No, there's just

Speaker 2 10% more swag on the new helmets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the whole thing is weird. The biggest winners in all of this are Steelers fans.

Speaker 1 If you're a Steelers fan, you must have had the best three days just watching the internet roast Antonio Brown, roast the Raiders, have a grand old time with it.

Speaker 1 My biggest takeaway though is in a backwards way, all Raiders' mystique has been lost because the Raiders, you know, if you want to talk about the swashbuckling pirates and they and they do the Autumn Wind is a Raider and all that stuff and Ken Stabler and John Madden.

Speaker 1 It basically comes down to this.

Speaker 1 If the Raiders were to just give Antonio Brown his old helmet and just pretend that it's not happening, they would possibly get an infraction, a penalty, a fine, whatever it may be, but they won't do that.

Speaker 1 And guess what? Man card Raiders because the old Raiders, they would just let him wear like a fucked up helmet and be like, guess what? We just want our guy out there. Exactly.

Speaker 2 They should do that. You're absolutely right.
Mark Davis should take his balls out onto the counter of the PF Changs and be like, come get the money from me. I'm poor.

Speaker 2 People forget that Mark Davis, he doesn't have good cash flow or just flow. Yes.
Any kind of flow in general for Mark Davis.

Speaker 2 But yeah, yeah, he could just say, like, we're not going to pay you the money, NFL. Come and take it.
And then all of a sudden, they're not the Raiders. They're the

Speaker 1 again.

Speaker 1 And that's what we all want.

Speaker 2 I mean, I, so Antonio Brown was comfortable.

Speaker 2 I get that he was like, you know, he had his helmet that allowed him to see the field, see the ball more easily, and they're trying to make him change to a new one.

Speaker 2 That probably irritates most people, but every other player in the NFL is like, yeah, I guess I got to wear the new helmet.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, for us, like a good analogy, can you imagine if journalists such as ourselves, you know, just spent weeks bitching about the fact that they changed the new layout on Twitter?

Speaker 1 Like, we, in your real-life job, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 You never do that. You just, you, you let the machines dictate their terms to you, and you say, thank you, sir.
May I have another update?

Speaker 1 So you're saying Antonio Brown just needs to go to Google Chrome and get that plug-in and just hack through it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he needs to get the extension.

Speaker 2 Whatever the open source thing is, he just needs to just deal with it.

Speaker 1 It's a good point because we all have certain things that we get used to and then complain about.

Speaker 1 It's just weird that it's Antonio Brown, and this was supposed to be like, you know, he basically complained his way out of Pittsburgh. New start, fresh start.

Speaker 1 You have the foot incident where we still don't know what's wrong with his feet. And then you have this where he's just no showing because he can't wear his old helmet.

Speaker 1 I love the visual of him sneaking into practice with an old helmet and they keep having to ban him. Like every day he wakes up.
He's like, all right, this one has been painted correctly.

Speaker 1 Like, it's got all the same look. And then he shows up, and the equipment staff's like, dude, you're wearing, like, it's very clear you're not wearing the right helmet.
You need to go.

Speaker 1 And this just goes on and on and on. And it will be, I think, going on and on.
I mean, Antonio Brown really does sound like he might just retire if he can't wear this helmet.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, that's honestly like the most relatable thing ever is to have a minor inconvenience so bad that you want to quit your job. It happens to everybody.
I actually really like that.

Speaker 2 And I do want to know more about who was painting his helmet. Like, was this him? Did he, like, go out in his garage with spray paint? Did he have a buddy that did it?

Speaker 2 Did he enlist the help of Deuce Gruden to just like uh just flex on the helmet folk? I don't, I want to know the mechanics.

Speaker 2 I want to know, like, exactly what happened and how he was painting it because basically, what he was doing was you know, how when a player is traded and then all of a sudden the internet's got photoshops of them, like with their old helmets, but just a different color, like immediately.

Speaker 2 That's what he was doing with his own helmet. He was using like his old Pittsburgh helmet and just spray painting it silver.

Speaker 1 Uh, okay, so the two bad parts about this whole story: number one,

Speaker 1 well, actually, we mentioned number one. There's actually three bad parts.
Number one, Antonio Brown kind of losing his mind.

Speaker 1 Number two, this was the fastest and the internet has killed a joke, I think.

Speaker 1 The people tweeting just pictures of other people in helmets. Very, very good.
You know, we saw the old leather helmets.

Speaker 1 All the jokes were taken up almost instantly because it's one of those controversies that is lighthearted enough that you have everyone getting

Speaker 1 open night at the Chuckle Hut.

Speaker 1 And then the third, what? It was. It was.
You saw it on Friday afternoon. It was, everyone had their memes.

Speaker 1 Everyone had their, you know, when I saw Rich Eisen going off on helmet stuff, I was like, okay,

Speaker 1 everyone's picked apart this card.

Speaker 2 It was SpongeBob in a helmet faster than you could say the word go. Like, they were already out there.
Right. And me and you, it was, this was weird.

Speaker 2 I was on a plane and I was reading the Mike Silver thread and I got, bleep out his name, man. And I got to, I think, think, the 13th post where it said that he was doing the spray painting stuff.

Speaker 2 And I was like, holy shit, this needs to be on Hard Knocks. So I quote tweeted and said, like, we need this on Hard Knocks, Are We Riot.

Speaker 2 And the first thing that comes up in my feed is you tweeting, like, we need this on Hard Knocks, Are We Riot, about a minute and a half before I did. So credit to you.

Speaker 1 So for I plagiarized you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, credit to you for investing.

Speaker 2 But even Are We Riot got run into the ground within like three minutes.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, listen.

Speaker 1 When we criticize other people of killing jokes instantly online, we are including ourselves. 100%.

Speaker 1 I mean, that is.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm a serial.

Speaker 1 That's why we get to say it. Yeah, that's why we get to say it because we take every, I just spray everything in sight.
Pray and spray when it comes to tweets about this stuff.

Speaker 1 I'm the Ted Bunny of jokes. So

Speaker 1 the third part, which you just kind of touched on,

Speaker 1 the fact that you stole my tweet, which was fine, not a big deal.

Speaker 1 It's not going to be on hard knocks. None of this is going to be on hard knocks.

Speaker 1 Because the Raiders aren't going to fucking let it on hard knocks. It's going to be the most disappointing hard knocks on Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 They will touch on it, sure, but we will not see Antonio Brown trying to sneak in with a bad helmet. We will not see Antonio Brown yelling at the training staff.

Speaker 1 We won't see John Gruden flipping out, being like, come on, what's going on with this man? That was a terrible John Gruden.

Speaker 2 No, that's good.

Speaker 1 That was good. Keep going.
We won't see any of this. We won't see any of this.
And it will be so fucking disappointing on Tuesday night because the whole world is expecting it.

Speaker 1 So now, PFT, we as journalists have to be ready to riot, man. Because we said we'd riot.
Yeah, we did. So we got to riot.

Speaker 2 Tell you what, man, I see this kid coming into practice wearing this helmet, man. I haven't seen so much controversy about another man's helmet since Tim Tebow was cutting up penises, you know?

Speaker 2 That was my...

Speaker 1 Okay, so that was like two... Yeah, one point.
No, no, that was Johns cheap to Time.

Speaker 2 That was John Gruden. Rope in...

Speaker 1 It feels cheap to rope in Tim Teebow. It's going to transition? No, I was just...

Speaker 1 And then you'd be cooking.

Speaker 2 I didn't really have have anything in my head. I was just going to be John Gruden until you guys said to stop.

Speaker 1 So I killed that joke, too. Good.

Speaker 2 I made a quick list here before we move on. Quick list.
A couple theories about Antonio Brown.

Speaker 2 Maybe he might be autistic because this is something, like, seriously, this is something that an autistic person would get very attached to their helmet. Like, it's their tool that they use.

Speaker 2 And they don't like being told when maybe he's got Asperger's.

Speaker 1 Asperger vs. Rothensberger.

Speaker 2 The Battle of the Burgers.

Speaker 2 I made a list of things that, like, the possible next scandals for him, because so far we've got him landing in the hot air balloon, him burning his feet, and now the helmet thing.

Speaker 2 So, like, just a quick possible next thing that Antonio Brown might do that we're not going to get to see on hard knocks.

Speaker 2 I think probably at some point he's going to show up in a Steeler shirt just because

Speaker 2 that was in his closet, and he's just used to wearing that.

Speaker 2 I could see him getting a bird, too. He strikes me as a guy that is teetering on the precipice of acquiring a bird to follow him around everywhere.

Speaker 1 bird or like

Speaker 1 one of those,

Speaker 1 remember Justin Bieber's monkey? Like one of the like he's a problematic monkey. Yeah, like a monkey or like a something that can get loose at Raiders practice.

Speaker 1 Some kind of animal that will just wreak havoc and we will have a headline. Antonio Brown lost his snake at Raiders training.
Yes, I could see something like that.

Speaker 2 I could see that happening. I also think that at some point he's going to, like, this is probably the next three weeks.

Speaker 2 He'll have this news conference where they ask him how he likes being on the Raiders and he'll just be like, it's my job to be a Raider, so I guess I'm a Raider. Like a very non-plussed.

Speaker 1 Right. And he'll sit way too close to Jeff Darlington in a huge fucking living room.
And when they do the wide pan, we'll be like, whoa, you guys are touching knees. This is fucking creepy.

Speaker 2 Helmet to helmet, man. Basically going dick to dick, docking in this living room with Darlington, man.

Speaker 1 And we said stop. We said stop.

Speaker 1 Okay. So in Total Round, yeah, we're not going to see it on Hard Knocks.
I'm going to say it right now. It's going to suck.
I'm pissed. Whatever.
But we'll riot. The other news we had.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are going to riot. So tune in Tuesday night for whatever whatever riot we figure out we're going to do.

Speaker 3 Well, it's going to be like three weeks until the period.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's in.

Speaker 2 It happens in real time, hey.

Speaker 1 Dude.

Speaker 1 Huh? It's week by week.

Speaker 1 I thought it was like two or three weeks behind. No, we're going to watch them play the Rams this week.
Oh, wow. It's week to week.

Speaker 3 Shout out to them. I didn't know they were that up to date on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I thought it was like two weeks behind.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. We're going to get Sea Bordels now.

Speaker 1 I think it's up. Yeah, I think it's up to like two days before.
They basically.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to them. They fucking cut that shit up quick.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was thinking, like, putting Riot on the schedule for like two weeks.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Riot's on the schedule Tuesday night.
Oh, shit. Tuesday night show where Riots is.
I've got it. I'll send a calendar in.

Speaker 1 All right. So the other thing we have, by the way, if you want to watch Stone Cold Steve Austin, which we have coming up, one of my favorite interviews ever, barstoolgold.com slash PMT.

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Speaker 1 The other news we have, our guy, Brooks Kepka, also known as Blake Kepka, is under attack because he wants to make golf fun, and a lot of people don't. So essentially what happened was

Speaker 1 it's been an ongoing story slash conversation about pace of play and golf trying to. By the way,

Speaker 1 I had this idea. The fact that pace of play is only baseball and golf, like the two most boring sports to watch, tells you a lot about what...
Like that right there, you should be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's go speed golf. Because if we're talking about pace of play, it probably means people are taking naps during our games.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 essentially, Brooks is leading the charge of pace of play, make golf fun, and Brandy Chamby, or what is it? What's his name? Now, this I can't get right. Chimblow.
Two guys he's going after.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 3 I'm in the same boat.

Speaker 1 Brycely D. Cham Chambly.

Speaker 1 So it's a combo.

Speaker 2 No, it's Chamblis de Brixplow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Briesy Chambis.

Speaker 1 De Chambies. Credit for

Speaker 2 going after just people with the weirdest names. It makes it very easy on us to make fun of them.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely. Hard to follow, though.
Yes, hard to follow for dumb brains like us, but very fun that he's going after these guys. So he started the day basically tweeting at Chambies,

Speaker 1 saying, Don't worry, I wasn't in the way, Chambles.

Speaker 1 If it was you playing, I would never stand there. Since it's Rory, I felt pretty confident he would shank it.

Speaker 1 Essentially, he's saying Brandy Chambys is saying that Brooks doesn't follow the rules of golf, like the gentleman rules of golf.

Speaker 1 By playing playing fast, he's getting in the line of sight of the guy he's playing with. But it seems like Brooks is like, yo, dude,

Speaker 1 Rory also wants to play fast. This is totally fine.
And then

Speaker 1 what's the other guy's name? Bryson's?

Speaker 1 Damn. Bryson's

Speaker 2 Bryson DeSchamblus.

Speaker 1 Either way, I guess at the end of the day, Brooks is the only one who's fucking standing up for the people of the world who want to watch fast golf. That's really what it comes down to.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 honestly, did you see what Bryson DeChambo was doing this weekend? It was pretty absurd.

Speaker 2 I don't know really the rules of golf etiquette because you have to be, I think, like a rich person growing up to be really inducted into them.

Speaker 2 But I'm pretty sure that you're not allowed to take three and a half minutes to line up a putt from eight feet and then miss the putt. If you make the putt, I think people overlook it.

Speaker 2 But if you miss that putt, then we're going to have an issue. And I also found out today his nickname is the scientist.

Speaker 1 Give me a break.

Speaker 1 He's a big Cold Play fan?

Speaker 2 Yeah, huge. Nobody said it would be easy playing with you because you're slow as fuck.
It sucked watching him play.

Speaker 1 And then Bryson showed up to the tournament today and went up to Brooks Caddy and was like, hey, if your boss has a problem with me, you can say it to my face.

Speaker 1 Of all the people to do that to, Brooks is probably the last guy because I don't think Brooks is scared of anyone. No.
Literally anyone. He says, he speaks his mind.
That's why he's a Blake.

Speaker 1 So he was like, okay, cool. He showed up and the caddy was like, hey, that Bryson dude

Speaker 1 is crying all over the course. And Brooks probably went up to him.
He was like, what are you going to do about it? He's like, I'm sorry, sir. Your muscles are awesome and you're fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Can you introduce me to the PMT guys?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Bryson was like, you know what? You talk a big game, but I highly doubt that John Daly would say that to my face. It's like, yes,

Speaker 2 this is the guy that loves to say things to people's faces. So they had a conversation, and then they asked Brooks what was said.
He's like, we began a conversation. We're going to finish it later.

Speaker 2 I am here for like a fight, like an actual brawl on the golf course. I think that'd be awesome.
We talked

Speaker 2 Brooks would absolutely destroy. Well, it depends.
If you catch him after he's been cutting weight for a week and he's down to like skinny Brooks, then I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Also,

Speaker 2 Bryson wears the newsboy hat. That's another thing that I learned about Bryson today because he's very extra.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've got to be careful with that. I've made this mistake before.

Speaker 1 If anyone dresses even remotely like Payne Stewart and they can then just pull the Trump card and be like, oh, actually, it's in tribute to Payne Stewart. Now you're the asshole.
So always be careful.

Speaker 2 You can't dress in tribute to Payne Stewart and then act like this, Bryson. Payne Stewart, Payton Stewart would complete a round round of golf faster right now than Bryson DeChambeau.

Speaker 1 Here's the one good thing about this whole controversy, whatever you want to call it, the pace of play controversy, that hopefully we will get things fixed and golf will be faster.

Speaker 1 Tiger weighed in, so you know that now it's going to be, you know, maybe some things will change. He said, I know this is a complicated issue.
Hopefully, it can be addressed in the near future.

Speaker 2 Good job, Tiger.

Speaker 1 That's such a good question.

Speaker 1 That was a quote from Tiger Woods in 2008

Speaker 1 talking about the pace of play. So it's definitely going to get fixed.
Golf is for sure going to fix it.

Speaker 2 PGA Tours said that they were going to fix it. They were going to look into it.
And Brooks is like,

Speaker 2 I don't know what you're supposed to look into. They are breaking the rule.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just play a little bit faster and make it more fun for people watching at home. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Imagine if they had a caddy or like a kid just follow him around with a shot clock. That would be amazing.

Speaker 1 That'd be so good.

Speaker 2 That'd be amazing. Standing behind Bryson with his stupid newsboy cap looking like Dropkick Murphy's accountant.

Speaker 1 Either way, Brandy Chambies, get the fuck out of here, dude. Enough of you.
Enough of you. Both of you.

Speaker 1 The replies

Speaker 1 to his tweet were so funny. Everyone just shitting on Brandy.
Dude, you're the worst.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to who's back before we do that.

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Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Yes. Who's back? Who is back? Go.

Speaker 3 My first who's back, actually I only have one. My who's back of the week is Little Kids Crying and just the Little League World Series in general.
It was on this weekend.

Speaker 3 It was basically the only thing on.

Speaker 3 And I actually think this, I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but the regional part of it before the actual Little League World Series is almost more exciting because you can, like, sometimes I feel like teams, the team of Destinies go and just get smoked by like random teams from over the world.

Speaker 3 But the America versus America, like Kentucky, Iowa versus Minnesota, like,

Speaker 2 those games are electric.

Speaker 1 And I feel like if you win your regional, going to Williams Support is basically the championship.

Speaker 1 Because you basically get to just go and party as a 12-year-old for, and by party, I mean, you know, eat

Speaker 1 pong chocolate Sundays and, yeah, and stay up till midnight. So just getting there,

Speaker 1 and you can tell the whole world forever, hey, we went to Williams Sport. That's a cool thing.
You don't really have to win at Williamsport for it to be a cool story to tell the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 Also, who's back with that? Todd Frazier. He played in the League World Series, and now he's a Met, and

Speaker 1 I guess he pumped up the New Jersey team to win their state title. So people forget Todd Frazier.

Speaker 3 There was this kid, Jameson Kuznia. He had like a go-ahead home running.

Speaker 1 Oh, the big boy. Chunky.
Chunky, Chunky.

Speaker 3 Those are the moments you look for.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was a beast. PFD, did you see this?

Speaker 1 They listed

Speaker 1 his numbers, too, which I thought was kind of mean. They were like, all 5'3-165 of him.
That's just power.

Speaker 2 That's condensed power right there. Yeah, no, that is pretty messed up that they did that.
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 I love the regional matchups, especially if you get like two Midwestern teams going at each other. That's always fun to see the local kids playing against each other.

Speaker 2 And then there's the near cousin of the little kids crying that's back in association with the Little League World Series, and that's the coaches wearing tactical sunglasses that know that the camera is on them and know that they're mic'd up.

Speaker 2 And they give these like life lesson speeches, and then people on Twitter brag that they're crying while they're watching it. There's a lot of content to be made out of these kids.
Yes, big time.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like that guy. What did you guys think about the guy for the Browns that returned that kick, and everyone's like, this is why sports are the best?

Speaker 3 I think it's the same thing as going to Williamsport, though. Like, that guy may never play, but he's always going to have that money.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, that's fair.

Speaker 1 But the whole time, I was thinking, all these people who are just doing this for retweets, saying how this is why sports are the best, what are they going to say when he gets cut in a week?

Speaker 2 Sports are the worst.

Speaker 1 This is why sports are the worst.

Speaker 2 Actually, yo, this is why sports are the best.

Speaker 1 It's the meritocracy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, at least that guy put out a good piece of tape.

Speaker 2 He's got a resume out there. You can build off that.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, what do you got for who's back of the dough?

Speaker 2 My Who's Back of the Week is unpopular opinions because

Speaker 2 there was a doozy that made the rounds this weekend. Unpopular opinion, eating raw cookie dough is worth the risk of salmonella poisoning.

Speaker 2 That's a spicy one. That's a spicy one.
Unpopular opinion, that was not an unpopular opinion.

Speaker 1 Dude, who gets salmonella from fucking eggs anyway? Yeah. That's such bullshit.

Speaker 1 They just scare you. It's literally just scaring you so you don't eat cookie dough.
It's like telling people if you swallow gum, that's bad for you. Right, exactly.
Exactly. It's big science.

Speaker 1 It's trying to keep us down.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, honestly, the whole raw eggs thing was started up by alphas because they didn't want betas to be able to use their training techniques.

Speaker 2 So they were just like, oh, you might get a tummy ache if you eat raw eggs. And so all the betas were like, yeah, good point.
I'm not going to eat raw eggs. Making them even more of betas.

Speaker 2 So it was a great trick that us alphas pulled on the world.

Speaker 2 My other who's back of the week is Nathan Peterman.

Speaker 1 Ah, that was mine, too.

Speaker 2 Nate Peterman.

Speaker 1 Can I just have it because you already have one? Nate Vick is back.

Speaker 1 Nope. Okay, that's no.

Speaker 1 Why? No, I was saying,

Speaker 1 can I have it because you already did one? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That was mine. Oh, you only had one Who's Back of the Week? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's Who's Back of the Week.

Speaker 2 Why don't you take my other Who's Back of the Week?

Speaker 1 Which is? Killer Eclipse. You've three? Yeah.
Killer Eclipse. You've three? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'll tell you what. I'll hand the baton.

Speaker 2 You got.

Speaker 1 Now Nate Vick is yours. Okay, so Nathan Peterman is back.
That's my Who's Back of the the week. A good big one.

Speaker 2 Good choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks. Thanks, dude.

Speaker 1 Just watching him out there was fun. But the other part of the who's back of the week, I don't know if you guys follow Warren Sharp.
Very good Twitter follow for all your football stuff.

Speaker 1 He caught this. The Raiders announcer.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the local Raiders announcer said that Derek Carr is going to have a big year because it's well known that the sixth year for pros is always a big leap year for them.

Speaker 2 That's when you take the next steps.

Speaker 1 The sixth year.

Speaker 1 The sixth year. So, year six is usually for a quarterback is when it all starts coming together,

Speaker 1 when things slow down. We were talking about it earlier.
So, the Derek Carr, between that and Hard Knocks, the Derek Carr media

Speaker 1 hype machine that's trying to get behind a guy who we really know who he is, and that's not a terrible quarterback, but he's not a superstar quarterback, is very, very funny to me because they're basically trying to wheel themselves into Derek Carr as our starter.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great. Derek Carr, no problem.
John Gruden loves him. And then you have Nathan Peterman busting off fucking 50-yard runs, looking like the stud that he is.
That's right.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, watch out, Derek Carr. You're in trouble.

Speaker 2 You can't throw an interception when you're 50 yards downfield with a cornerback eating your dust.

Speaker 1 Tough for Mike Lennon to out-intercept Nathan Peterman. That's bad.

Speaker 2 That's not a great look. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 That's for sure. Yeah.
That's bad for your job.

Speaker 2 It is awesome seeing him out there. I hadn't heard that stat about six-year quarterbacks, but it makes sense.
Robert Griffin finally won a playoff game last year, his sixth year in the league. Yes.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 1 everyone knows the sixth year.

Speaker 2 I'm buying the sixth year bump. You can have all talked about it.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows you've got to give that quarterback the first five years of their contract, then re-up them to just make sure that maybe they will be the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I'm looking up who else was drafted in the 2013 draft so that I can adjust my fantasy rankings accordingly. Okay, I'm on it right now.
Oh, there were like no quarterbacks taken. This is

Speaker 2 E.J. Manuel.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Yes, we'll be on the lookout for him.
Big year. Yep.

Speaker 2 Then nobody else in the Geno Smith.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.
Geno Smith. Big time.

Speaker 1 Backup. He's in Seattle.

Speaker 2 Him and Paxton Lynch. Yes.
So those two are going to be gunning for the starting backup job. We should do a Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks, by the way.

Speaker 1 Matt Barkley. Huge.
Another leap year. Huge.
Well, probably not because Josh Allen's a stud.

Speaker 1 By the way, I know this is ridiculous to just say it, but I did wake up on Friday morning and I lost my Broncos bet because Paxton Lynch came out and played well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just a fucking, that's just a sick joke.

Speaker 2 How did you bet against Paxton Lynch in a revenge game?

Speaker 1 It was such a fucking sick joke that I somehow am still losing money because of Paxon Lynch, but it's in a preseason football game. Fuck it.

Speaker 2 Oh, my mistake. That was the 2013 draft.
So those guys

Speaker 2 had their bump last year.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 1 Great. Great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, you'll notice. Yeah, you would notice if you look at the stats.

Speaker 2 I was wondering, I was like, I I don't know how much higher E.J. Manuel can get in his career.
Like, that's because he just had his bump last year.

Speaker 1 Yes, he just peaked.

Speaker 1 He's waiting to peak. All right,

Speaker 1 let's do our Mount Rushmore. We have the Mount Rushmore of sports movie characters.

Speaker 1 PFT Europe first.

Speaker 2 All right, before I go,

Speaker 2 guess who's hitting the bump this year?

Speaker 1 Bortles. Who?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Portals year.
Hell yes. Brutal move by the Rams, by the way, to make him do the promo without a hat on.
That was fucked up. That was very.
I'm taking notes, Rams.

Speaker 1 Even though you're his current employer, you're on the list. Johnny Menzel.
Big bump. Well, yeah.
Every year's bumpier. Johnny.

Speaker 2 All right. So I'm going first on this one.

Speaker 1 Whale tale of a bump. We killed that joke, too.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Mount Rushmore Sports Movie Characters. I'll go first.
I'm going to go

Speaker 1 with Rudy. Oh, okay.
Gotta go Rudy. Wait for a lot of tweets tomorrow.
He was off sides.

Speaker 2 Five-foot-nothing, 150-0, whatever it was.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he might have been off sides, but he was on sides of my heart.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hank, you have second pick.

Speaker 3 My first pick also is a one-namer.

Speaker 1 Rocky.

Speaker 1 Rocky. Good one.
Good one. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll break it up. I'll do two names here, guys.

Speaker 1 So my first pick, I'm going to go with shooter McGavin. All-time heel.
Yes. All-time heel.
And my second pick, I'm actually going to go with what?

Speaker 1 what are you mad about? No, I'm not mad.

Speaker 3 What I had happy, I just don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, shooter's better than happy, so it sucks for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do? You lost the gold jacket, uh,

Speaker 1 shooter makes that movie, okay? So, my second pick is actually gonna go uh, to the to the animal side of things.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna take uh Hercules the Beast from Sandlot.

Speaker 2 Good pick, yeah, that's Leroy. Thank you.
Good job.

Speaker 1 Well, no, his name's Hercules.

Speaker 2 Yeah, his name's Hercules. Good job, big cat.
Good pick. It's Hercules.
Big dog.

Speaker 1 The beast from the Sandlot. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I will go with Coach Yoast, Remember the Titans.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. You love Remember the Titans.
I fucking love it.

Speaker 1 You have an addiction to Remember the Titans.

Speaker 3 I honestly, I watched it on TV again the other day. I know you did.
I had it on, I think I had it on VHS. I probably have watched that movie potentially.
Four digits, potentially in the thousands.

Speaker 3 Every line, line for line, does not get old. The blocking,

Speaker 3 the two scenes at at the end when he, like, the sunshine's blocking is just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You should.

Speaker 3 The greatest blocker of all time. Greatest lead blocker of all time.

Speaker 1 Hank is watching the world fall apart with the racial divide in our country. He's like, why don't we just fucking sing Ain't No Mountain High Enough in a bus.

Speaker 1 We'll all fucking be cool.

Speaker 2 That movie solved racism by making black players and white players live together.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, good job.

Speaker 3 Your Hall of Famer Mapbook coach.

Speaker 1 All right, Maya 2. I'm going to go Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 2 Happy Gilmore, Gilmore

Speaker 2 all-time character. I was trying to decide between him and Bobby Boucher, the Waterboy, but I felt like at times the Waterboy was racist against people from Louisiana.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to take Happy Gilmore instead. And then in my third one, this is kind of a wildcard one.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with Bob Euchre from Major League.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 the announcer, Bob Euchre, made that movie.

Speaker 1 Yes, very good, very good character. Very good character.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, your third pick.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. There's just so many.
There are so many.

Speaker 3 But I'm going to go for the personal well. Again, like, remember the Titans have also seen this movie maybe a thousand times just because I had it on VHS or DVD or whatever.

Speaker 3 Sanka Coffee, Cool Runnings.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Okay.
Good pick. Good pick.
You didn't want to go John Candy? R.A.P.

Speaker 3 I like Sanka better in that movie. Okay, John Candy.

Speaker 1 Sinka. Jamaica.
Shedead.

Speaker 1 That is. I think they're making that into a

Speaker 1 Broadway musical.

Speaker 1 They might have made that up. I fucking hope so.
They might have made that up.

Speaker 2 Broadway, like an indoor bobsled.

Speaker 1 That'll be cool.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 if I didn't make that up, they should do it.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's one of those ones where my brain is too far ahead of what's hot on Broadway because they should have cool runnings, the Broadway adaption. Let's see, cool runnings.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I totally did it. Totally made it up.

Speaker 2 They should do like a reverse Hamilton and do the story of the Jamaican bobsled team, but just have it be like a bunch of like old white guys from the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 1 Fuck, fuck. I made that up.
Okay. All right, my last two.
I'm going to go with Ern McCracken, Kingpin, Bill Murray. Also gave us a Hall of Fame gift.

Speaker 1 A very, very, very funny movie. And then my last pick, I'm going to go with Henry Rowan Gardner.

Speaker 1 Because if you weren't a kid growing up in the 90s and you didn't think, hey, maybe if I just break my arm, I too can be a Major League Baseball Baseball player, then that wasn't a special movie for you.

Speaker 1 Robson Baggard. And you know, he still throws out the first pitch at Cubs games like once a year.

Speaker 2 It's very funny. That's great.
He's got.

Speaker 1 And I've still, yeah, and I still expect him to throw like 105, and it just doesn't happen. And then he has the Ephesus.
All right, Hank.

Speaker 2 I'll go with Coach O, the blind side.

Speaker 1 Oh, Pander pick. Pander alert.
It's a good choice.

Speaker 2 It's a good choice, though.

Speaker 2 It's a good choice. I think the kid from the blind side is an AWL, by the way.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, pretty sure. What, Michael Orr? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Shout out Michael Orr.

Speaker 1 Okay, God.

Speaker 1 Your last pick, Piano.

Speaker 2 All right, my last one is

Speaker 2 I'm going to go an old school one. The Hansen Brothers from Slapshot.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
R.A. will vote for you.

Speaker 1 R.A.

Speaker 2 will launch a campaign for me.

Speaker 2 They were the original Bad Boys. Slapshot's one of those movies that if you've ever played hockey growing up,

Speaker 2 you got forced to watch it. You got Clockwork Orange and had your eyeballs peeled open and you were made to watch that movie.
And it still holds up. It's a funny fucking movie.

Speaker 1 All right, so this is going to be one of those Mount Rushmores that we do and everyone's good. There's going to be a million.
How could you not? Yeah. How could you not pick this?

Speaker 1 So let's start with a how could you not and we'll talk about hockey. Gordon Bombay, Goldberg the goalie.
Herb Brooks. Herb Brooks.
But I mean Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 1 That's another one where if you watched it growing up, I remember I wanted to play hockey and then similar to Antonio Brown, I couldn't get the helmet off and it fucked up my ears and I was like, I quit hockey.

Speaker 2 And you can also freeze your feet in hockey, too. So it's very dangerous sport.

Speaker 3 And Happy Gilmore and Mighty Ducks, like everyone in their life has tried to do a knuckle puck and everyone in their life has tried to do the Happy Gilmore. And it never really works.

Speaker 1 We were talking, PFT, we were talking, I was saying beforehand that Hoosiers is probably my favorite sports movie, but the characters just aren't, the singular characters aren't like strong enough.

Speaker 1 Like my favorite character is Jimmy, but he doesn't even talk. No, so I would throw him up there.

Speaker 2 The main character in Hoosiers was basketball, was the sports, right?

Speaker 1 Exactly. So, yeah, the love of the game and just being in an Indiana driveway, a gravel driveway, shooting

Speaker 1 jumpers all afternoon.

Speaker 2 I also had Sea Biscuit as one of my honorable mentions, but I didn't want to get into a big debate of whether or not horses were athletes. I left that one off.
Debbie from Debbie James. Jesusworth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 Picture me. Yep.

Speaker 1 Do you think that Rocky Jordan Space Jam?

Speaker 1 Do you think that Rocky is the best character in Rockies? No, the dog.

Speaker 1 His dog.

Speaker 1 No. Hercules.
I was going to say Drago is.

Speaker 1 I think Drago is the best villain. Yeah, but Drago was everything.

Speaker 1 Drago is the existential threat of him. He was

Speaker 1 wow. Hank.
Deep. Fuck.
Drago was. Where did that come from?

Speaker 3 Drago is more than just an enemy.

Speaker 1 It was allegorical.

Speaker 1 That's point, Hank. Yeah.
Billy Hoyle, White Man Can't Jump.

Speaker 1 I wrote down

Speaker 1 Wild Thing, obviously, from Major League.

Speaker 3 Coach Carter.

Speaker 1 Coach Carter. Benny the Jet.

Speaker 2 A lot of coaches. From Sandlines.

Speaker 1 Billy Bob from Varsity Blues. Yeah.
Yep. Big one.
Is he dead or alive? Dead.

Speaker 3 I think he's alive.

Speaker 1 I think he's dead. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Look that up. RAP, if he is dead, our bad, on that one.
Rod Tidwell. And then the only other one I wrote down, you guys can tell me, is this a sports movie or not? Johnny Utah from Point Break.

Speaker 1 It is a movie about surfing.

Speaker 2 You can make the case. Ron Lester passed away in 2016.
Billy Bob.

Speaker 1 Fuck. All right.
R.I.P. Moment of silence.

Speaker 2 He survived by the pig.

Speaker 1 Moment of silence.

Speaker 1 Moment of silence. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Moment of silence.
All right. So there's a lot that I'm sure people will come up with.
We'll throw it off. G-Baby.
Yeah, G-Baby. Fuck.
There's so many. God damn it.
This was...

Speaker 1 We should have done

Speaker 1 who can tap out first and just done a list of like 50 each just to see how deep.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do an extra one for

Speaker 1 Trey Wingo?

Speaker 2 If Trey Wingo was in this

Speaker 2 Because I feel like. Jackie Moon.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jackie Moon.
Ricky Bobby.

Speaker 2 Ricky Bobby, for sure. I was going to say,

Speaker 2 he probably likes Michelle

Speaker 2 from

Speaker 1 Dodgeball.

Speaker 2 Patches a hulahan. He has patches on there.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Patches.
Can Dodge a wrench.

Speaker 1 Okay, he also just passed away. Oh, and then

Speaker 2 the brother that was played by the guy from Starsborn, Bradley Cooper, in Wedding Crashers.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Crab Kicks and Football.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview with Stone Cold Steve Austin. Very excited for this one.
Before we do it. What's up, guys?

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All right, here he is. Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're a role model. You're an idol of mine.
Way back in the day, it's Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker 1 I'm a little speechless because you are actually someone that, like, if I had to list the three people that are, like, on the,

Speaker 1 you know, pinnacle of my idols, it's you, Michael Jordan, and Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Speaker 1 How do you think about that being in that kind of

Speaker 1 company?

Speaker 1 That's not your speechless. Yeah.
That's an interesting selection there. Yeah, you like it.

Speaker 1 I do. You like it.
Hey,

Speaker 1 before the cameras were rolling, you offered to give me the shirt off your back. I did.
Can you turn up my volume? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank missed that, but when you walked in, you're like, hey, I like your shirt. And I just ripped it off my back, and I said, here, you take it.

Speaker 1 You can do. You want it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I like it when you have your shirt off. All right.
So it is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 We're very excited to have you on. You have a new show coming out, Straight Up Steve Austin, August 12th on USA Network.
Everyone's excited for that. You want to talk about that real quick? No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. Don't know that we're here for.
Of course I want to talk about it. Straight up, Steve Austin.
Yeah. Man,

Speaker 1 it's a cool show, and I get a chance to hang out with celebrity guests and do cool things. And it's kind of like a talk show with many moving parts.
And we're never indoors.

Speaker 1 We're always outdoors doing cool things. And whether it's, you know, I'm interviewing someone, we're just doing something from their life, or they're doing something from my life.

Speaker 1 life or just finding common ground. Obviously, I like to laugh a lot.
Now, as you used to watch me a Stone Cold Steve Austin, a lot of people would think, hey, man, this is a serious cat.

Speaker 1 He's always mad. He's going to be mean.
But I'd rather laugh than do anything. So I think, and a humor is a common ground to bring people together.

Speaker 1 So just hanging out with people, having a good time, and it's kind of

Speaker 1 an extension of my podcast, an extension of some of the hosts, the shows that I've hosted in the past.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, you get 85 people hanging around filming you. It turns into this whole different animal.
So I had a lot of fun shooting it, had some great guests.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, it's received in a high fashion and we get a chance to continue.

Speaker 2 It's interesting that you mentioned doing a podcast because, like, just hearing Stone Cold Steve Austin be like, I got my podcast going, and this is kind of an extension.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like, it's a little surreal because you used to feed off the energy of a live crowd out there, right? They would get really into you. They would pump you up.
You'd pump them up.

Speaker 2 I remember the speech that you gave, the what speech, telling the story about a man named Jed when everybody was just like, call and response. You fed off that stuff.
Now you do a podcast.

Speaker 2 So you sit down in front of a microphone and you talk into just, you know, a piece of equipment. There's nobody around you firing back.

Speaker 2 How do you get amped up doing that without somebody like egging you on? You know,

Speaker 1 it's a different animal. And I remember when I first did my first podcast some six years ago, I went to the studio and I now operate out of my house or I turned my house into a studio.

Speaker 1 But I rolled in there and I didn't really know what to expect.

Speaker 1 And because I'd done so much live television and I'd been stone cold Steve Austin or different variations of that guy for so long, I was used to having that instant feedback from that crowd.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of your gas pedal. You get that gas pedal and get a response, and you go accordingly.
So all of a sudden, I think, oh, okay, I'm going to start a podcast. I'm Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker 1 I got the gift of gabs, so I'm going to be good as gold.

Speaker 1 Hell man, we started, and this was a test. I hit the wall in seven minutes, and all of a sudden, I didn't have anything to say.
So it was like, it was a real come to Jesus meeting.

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay, you have to learn some stuff here. And I went back, you know, I learned how to start taking notes.
And that was just a debut podcast without a guest.

Speaker 1 But you've got to put in the time, put in the work, you know, do your research and be prepared. But

Speaker 1 it's an interesting dynamic. And I'm totally used to talking now without waiting for a crowd to roar.
Right. But it was an adjustment in the beginning.

Speaker 1 Did we make a mistake not bringing beers into this studio for you? Almost all of the shows that I've done today have offered me a beer, but I'm not offended that you didn't.

Speaker 1 We're trying to do the opportunity. We're trying not to be, hey, stone cold.
Here's another beer. Another just you can be.
You play into the

Speaker 1 character. Yeah, and we couldn't find your beer, and I didn't want to offer you something that wasn't yours.
And that's what just happened. Someone brought out a, you know what?

Speaker 1 And I was like, man, this ain't broken skull. Right.
Skull. So anyway, and I do have a long day ahead of me.

Speaker 1 For me to show up on another show all trash because I've been hanging out with you guys drinking beer all day would be unprofessional on my part. So yeah, I took a couple of sips.

Speaker 1 I don't want to look hoity-toity. Right, right.
Yeah, okay. A couple of swigs.
So you're good. We're good.
Yeah, I'm good. Yeah,

Speaker 1 100%. All right.
Dude, you offered me the shirt off your back. You took the shirt off and handed it to me.
It It was a great moment. I didn't even think it was.
It was true.

Speaker 1 You're the kind of guy I can always say, hey, man, the guy.

Speaker 1 Give you the shirt right off his back.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. All right.
I want to talk about a lot about the attitude area. I told you I was a huge fan.
Let's start with just your entrance. Do you still get chills when the glass shatters? Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 It's adrenaline rush. It's a spike that you can't explain.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And you live and die by it. Recently, we just went down to Tampa for the Monday night.
You know, it was like the Raw Reunion.

Speaker 1 And I was like, for the WWE.com, they were asking me, hey, you know, we're used to the stone cold pop because it's kind of a phenomenon, right?

Speaker 1 And I'm not patting myself on the back. No, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 I watched all three hours of that show for the pop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, and I said, hey, man, I said, I know it's going to be good, but anything less than fantastic or spectacular is going to be a letdown for me because I've heard them all.

Speaker 1 And you live and die by that. And boy, when I came out of the gate, man, the place, it blew the roof off the place.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it was an amazing feeling and i'm not a drug head so i i say but if you could bottle that feeling that i feel when that glass hits and you could sell that

Speaker 1 you'd make a lot of damn money what's the number one cop in your uh in your career that you think back the one that you close your eyes and you're like that was it well there's so many but there's that one time when uh the rock was wrestling uh mick foley yep and dx and they were creating all kinds of havoc vince mcmahon was by the ring and all of a sudden mix in a bunch of trouble and then here comes Stone Cold, and they hit that damn music, and it was a built moment.

Speaker 1 You know, they build those moments, you know, but I got to be the guy, and the music has a big part of it.

Speaker 1 But when I came out there to help him win that championship, and then the eruption when he pinned the rock for the three count, that was one of the top ones. Yeah, you got to understand it.

Speaker 1 That was a great match.

Speaker 1 Also, yes, it was, but you also got to understand, finally, when I turned from the ringmaster and the stone cold, you know, the music that I had to begin with was, you know, laid back, boring, lulling.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's terrible. And so then I started getting a little bit of hands-on when I came up with the Stone Cold thing.
And I said, Hey, do you have any ideas for some ring music?

Speaker 1 I said, You're damn right I do. So I took Rage Against Machine, Bulls on Parade to Jim Johnston.
I said, It ain't this song, but it's in the vein of this song.

Speaker 1 And so, why he thought about the glass breaking? I mean, because Stone Cold. Yeah.
I mean, and then he put the sirens in, but it's

Speaker 1 the whole thing was a masterpiece, and I give all the credit to Jim Johnston, but it was inspired, at least in my head, by Rage Against the Machine Bulls on Parade.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's pretty awesome. So, you had

Speaker 2 too many outrageous stunts to count, really, whether it's running over the rocks, New Lincoln with the monster truck or driving the Zamboni into the ring.

Speaker 2 By the way, had you ever driven a Zamboni before?

Speaker 1 No, and I'd never driven a monster truck prior to that.

Speaker 1 I've driven a couple, because was that before or after my neck surgery?

Speaker 1 Because I started doing monster truck appearances, but I am the master, the absolute master of driving anything on wheels in 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be an expert at it, but I can efficiently get the job done. And it's sink or swim.

Speaker 1 If you're going to put me on live TV and put me in a monster truck or go to Nassau Coliseum when I drove the cement truck and the Phillip Vince's compatible Corvette, all those things folded down and then I revved the motor to spin up that cement to dump in that Corvette.

Speaker 1 They didn't, we didn't have modern technology back in. They didn't say like, here's a mark to hit.
I just had to guess at the mark. So

Speaker 1 it was just fun to be able to do all that kind kind of stuff. When I drove that monster truck into the arena, they put me into a holding area.
I remember this.

Speaker 1 And it was like a two and a half minute commercial break. And that thing's running off methyl, alcohol, ethanol, alcohol, whatever.
It's an 1,800 horsepower motor. And I'm in there and I'm dying.

Speaker 1 My eyes are tearing up. I can't breathe because of the exhaust fumes of that truck.

Speaker 2 You were also dead.

Speaker 1 I'm just waiting to come back on air so I can just get out of there and get a breath of fresh air. Anyway, I get out in the arena and I gas it.
And the carpet's so long. and I just, I revved it up.

Speaker 1 And I think four-wheel drive was so awesome. It just jerked one of the camera guys off his feet because it shot the carpet right out from underneath him because all that horsepower.

Speaker 1 So all the shenanigans that they created for me really helped the characteristics. Do you think it's missing in today's wrestling?

Speaker 1 Because just thinking about, you know, listing them all, the Zamboni, the court, you know, putting the cement in Vince McMahon's Corvette, all these off the ring things that happen is what made Raw can't miss on a Monday night because you just didn't know you're with Booker T in

Speaker 1 a supermarket. There's all these things that would happen that you just had no idea what was going to happen next.
And it feels like after your era, it kind of went away from that.

Speaker 1 It was a lot more ring stuff.

Speaker 1 Man, well, it's interesting how the thing has changed. And now it's three hours versus two hours, and SmackDown's two hours.

Speaker 1 But when you used to watch, you know, back in the Attitude Era, we had the Monday Night Wars, Nitro had this hot open. You know, then we had our, you know, pyro coming down.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it was a sense of urgency. You felt like anything could happen at any one time.

Speaker 1 And it, to me, is just maybe, I'm not picking on today's product, but I'm just think the spontaneity is lost, like that feeling that anything could happen is lost.

Speaker 1 And if you can bring it back and create that excitement, I don't think you need to go to filling up this with that or crushing things.

Speaker 1 Braun Strowman has done some really cool things with

Speaker 1 displays of strength, turning shit over and stuff like that. That's all cool.
Sense of urgency, I think, is the most important part. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was there ever any stunt that got brought up that you were like, no, this is too far?

Speaker 1 No, I never said that, but I'll never forget. I was recovering from my neck surgery, and I mean, I've been eating a lot of enchiladas and drinking a lot of beer and weighed about 275.
Sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 And it said, we need you in Charlotte. You're going to drop a big parking block on the DX bus.
And luckily, that went to post.

Speaker 1 But anyway, I went out there and learned how to drive everything, like I just told you. But what they didn't didn't show me was

Speaker 1 when I was learning, they had the arm tilted down like this so I could swing that cement girder. Probably weighed about 400 pounds.
But then when we were resting, they put it back to a high position.

Speaker 1 When I got it, it was in the high position. So I don't know that.
I'm just now trying to swing it, but it is not working like it's supposed to work. And then in those...

Speaker 1 those cranes, it's a vertical windshield and it's literally six inches from your face. And so I'm there on what's live to tape.
They're going to take take it back to post.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, that thing starts swinging back and forth to that cab, and it's swinging this way right at the cab.

Speaker 1 And I'm sitting there thinking on live TV for most, for all intrinsic purposes, I'm thinking, hey, I've got to watch my language. I said, some bitches fixed to come in here and crush my head.

Speaker 1 I'm dead. And it stopped.
that far from that glass cab. And I wasn't selling it.
I wasn't flinching. And I wasn't moving.

Speaker 1 So I was committed. I was about to take an asswoman.
It would have killed me. But luckily, as fate turned out,

Speaker 1 I'm here talking with you in a pair of sunglasses, and you just took your shirt off and got to give it to him. Hell yeah.
Hello, trade-off, Steve Austin. Yeah, coming up on August 12th.
Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Obviously, one of the most interesting parts of your career is your relationship with Vince McMahon, both on and off-screen. What was it like off-screen, but you know, behind the scenes?

Speaker 1 One, did you ever sneeze in front of him? And two, did you guys get along day to day? Yeah, we got along for the most part all the time. And it was funny.

Speaker 1 I tell people this that are still in the game.

Speaker 1 There was a day, you know, back when I was the guy, if I called Vince, his phone didn't ring one full time. Hello, you know, because I was that guy.

Speaker 1 Hell, now I ring it, goes voicemail, and you know, I'm lucky if he calls me back. Right, right.
But we always got along for the most part.

Speaker 1 And every now and then we would not, you know, see eye to eye on certain things.

Speaker 1 I remember one specific time in Cleveland Gundarina, they had me booked with someone that I'd already said I would not work with this person. And we were in a room about the size of this one.

Speaker 1 And man, I let loose with some real colorful language about you.

Speaker 2 You can trust me on this podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you put it on.

Speaker 1 There was a bunch of that going on. And I let everybody know exactly what I thought because I told you, don't put me in this situation.
You did. I said, now I'm the fucking bad guy.

Speaker 1 I said, I told you not to do this to me. And it was much worse than that.
So

Speaker 1 there's been those times and the time when they wanted me to fly down to Atlanta for Monday Night Raw and put over Brock Lesnar.

Speaker 1 And the night before I was working in Columbus, Georgia with Ric Flair in a cage. So I was like a kid in a candy store working with a goat, right?

Speaker 1 And then, you know, of course, they didn't show up because it wasn't time for me to do the favors yet for Brock in an unadvertised match in a tournament-style TV match.

Speaker 1 Whereas, hey, man, I love Brock Lesnar, and I'll lose to him any day of the week, but build it up so we can all make money off of it, and it's going to mean something.

Speaker 1 And when you get a guy red hot, like I just had Hogan on the podcast, and I'll put myself there, but when you get guys who really, really draw stupid money, that's a very delicate balance that you just don't take stupid liberties with or you'll kill it off and you can never recreate it.

Speaker 1 So I was very protective of myself, maybe too much so, but it took me seven and a half years to get there. So no one was going to yank the carpet out from underneath my feet, not even Vince.

Speaker 1 They weren't going to do the monster truck, yank the carpet out underneath. No, no, no, not that.
But no, it was

Speaker 1 I'm in a great place with Vince right now, but you know, the closer you are, the higher you up, the higher you are up on the card and on that ladder and with the money that we were drawing, you become very close.

Speaker 1 Okay, so with that said, can you apologize to me for WrestleMania 17? What did you not like the heel turn? I mean, the fact that

Speaker 1 that moment when you heel turn and share a beer with Vince McMahon and just waiting for you to be like, just kidding, stunner.

Speaker 1 yep I'm still waiting for that stunner I'm still waiting on her too and I've I've thought rethought that thing so many times and if I could call the you know the audible now I would have just told him hey man I ain't feeling it because here's here's how I was feeling leading into that I thought I was starting to flatline just a little bit and I said okay man a change is good and and Vince always likes to do something big at a WrestleMania well didn't have really anything big there so I'm like hey I'll turn hill That's what we do.

Speaker 1 You get hot, and then you turn hill, and then it's even hotter.

Speaker 1 Most times, yes, but it has to be warranted and it has to be for a reason. Yeah.
And all of a sudden, when I did that that night, if I could go back, I just said, hey, man, I'm calling

Speaker 1 an audible watch to stutter. Right.
And then stunned his ass. It would have maintained my babyface run.
So, so, how much like creative input did you have day to day?

Speaker 1 And, you know, because I know there's obviously a script, but would you get to say, hey, I'm not doing this or I want to do it this way, and how much would they trust you?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I had a lot of control, and they put me in a lot of, for the most part, always put me in really good positions to do great things.

Speaker 1 But I was one of the worst, and I've told a story before, if I didn't like an idea, I would flat out tell you that's bullshit. That's it ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 And then they'd say, Well, you've got a better idea. I'd say, No, it's like three hours for live TV, and they've got to come up with a completely different thing for Stone Cold to do.
So

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 always the first guy in the building. I was always the last guy to leave.
I'll work my ass off, but if I don't like creative, I'll let you know about it.

Speaker 2 Did you ever,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 there's the creative process where they tell you what to do and you have to improvise a little bit. Sometimes you run into people that you're out there in the ring with.
Mike Tyson comes to mind.

Speaker 2 So a guy that maybe was his first time ever in a wrestling ring on TV. He's not getting into it with you as much as, you know, he's not a trained wrestler.
He's got no experience.

Speaker 2 Is there something that you would say when maybe things are flatlining a little bit out there to like try to get under his skin a little bit?

Speaker 2 Or like, how would you mess with a guy that maybe doesn't have the experience that a professional would?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, that situation never presented itself because when they brought him down, I think that was Fresno TV, when they introduced him as the baddest man on the planet.

Speaker 1 And man, all of a sudden, here comes Stone Cold because you're in my ring and you ain't going to come out there and insult me with your damn boxing.

Speaker 1 And so we got in that little altercation where I got in his face and said, I don't know how good your hearing is, but in case you don't understand what I'm talking about, I got a little bit of sign language for you.

Speaker 1 So here's two years. You always flip somebody up to the double burst.
If they're not getting into it that way,

Speaker 1 when he shoved me back, he shoved me with everything he had, and I went flying. And I went, it was damn near shoot.
I'm going back for him. And they're holding me back.

Speaker 1 Jerry Briscoe, who's a shoot wrestler, Sarge, all those guys, you watch how they're clawing and keeping at me because this has to be real.

Speaker 1 And if you go back and watch it it and you watch closely, I don't know where Mike was going, but he had about $5,000 and $100 bills in his suit jacket and $100 bills go fly everywhere.

Speaker 1 And all of his handlers, because he had a posse, he had his team with him. All of his handlers are picking up all the $100 bills.

Speaker 1 But there was never a situation where there was something I needed to do to get Mike to do this.

Speaker 1 And it turns out that Mike is a huge historian of the business and probably knows more about the history of the business than a lot of the guys.

Speaker 2 Would you go back and watch your matches on tape, like to see what the fans at home were watching?

Speaker 2 Do what? Would you go back and so after like a Monday Night Raw? Would you go back and watch the television feed to see what everybody was watching at home?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, man. I was really bad.
You know, now that nowadays, someone will email me a match or something like that, and I'll watch, and my wife will say, Well, what are you watching that for?

Speaker 1 I said, Well, somebody emailed it to me, and I forgot about it. But going back to back then, it was too hard because even in the stuff that I watch that I do now,

Speaker 1 I'm so critical of myself. I think, well, why didn't you do this? Or like, let's go back to the Chicago match at WrestleMania 13 with

Speaker 1 Brett's wearing my ass out in the corner, right? And I kick him right in the balls, right?

Speaker 1 And we go down

Speaker 1 and he just,

Speaker 1 he does a classic sell and he's on his back. Now, when I go back and I start reaching for those ropes and I'm all messed up because he's been kicking my ass.

Speaker 1 If I could go back, I would have stayed there for two minutes. Okay, two minutes is an eternity.
Let's just say one minute.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine how that crowd would have even come more than they did? Because they were with that match from the open to the finish, and the blood was off the charts.

Speaker 1 But had I built that for another 60 or 90 seconds, they would have started rumbling. And that's one of those what-if type things where if I'm trying to rethink the match.
So

Speaker 1 I'm happy you brought up that match because that match is kind of, wouldn't you say that's the match that maybe put you on the map as stone cold?

Speaker 1 the bloody face the sharpshooter passing out in it um do you think of it as that match like that's the match that put me at this different level uh the match the year before when he handpicked me to work with him survivor series at madison square garden kind of started me and of course i was i was in transition i was in the making right i was on the way but to answer your question quite frankly and truthfully yes i think it's honestly this is going to sound stupid but the bald head with the blood has an image to it that you can't replicate with anyone else.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 when you would bleed, it was blood everywhere. Whereas if someone's bleeding with their hair, you see it, but you don't see it.

Speaker 1 When you were bleeding, it was just an absolute scene. I agree with you.
Flair always had that mouthful of blonde hair.

Speaker 1 So, you know, hair worked for Flair because it would be that big mess could add so much hair. That worked good for him.

Speaker 1 But for me, for some reason, my viscosity of blood or how it works, I mean, because you're looking at a canvas, right? Yes. And all of a sudden,

Speaker 1 none of those were really bloodbaths per se.

Speaker 1 You know, we've seen other ones that were much bloodier, but for some reason, blood works well with me, and it just runs down my face in a really good fashion.

Speaker 1 And for some reason, God didn't give me a very good hair genetic, but he gave me a great-shaped skull. So you apply blood, sweat, and emotion, it really presents a hell of a picture.

Speaker 1 How bad did that sharpshooter hurt, for real?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, it's you

Speaker 1 feel some pressure. No, no, no, no, the one on the table was the most pain I've ever been in my entire life.
Who put it on you? You're supposed to say it was the most pain I've ever been in my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 who am I talking to? Me. Oh,

Speaker 1 like a motherfucker. Yeah, there you go.
Okay, yeah, I bet it looked like it fucking hurt. Damn, I can't believe we survived that thing.
Fuck. I wasn't going to give up, though.

Speaker 1 Fuck no, you weren't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the blood thing. So,

Speaker 1 who's your favorite guy to work with throughout all your years? Man, there's been so many. Ricky the Dragon Steamboat is like one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 And just the way he works, baby, you know, if you grab him in a headlock, he's going to come out and try to top risk you just on automatic reflex. It's not like you're telling him to do anything.

Speaker 1 He fills in the gap, even though me is a hill I'm calling to match. He's going to do those intangibles that I ain't even got to worry about.

Speaker 1 And as far as chemistry, Brett the Hitman Hart have just, him and I have such a mutual respect for each other and kind of like to tell the same stories.

Speaker 1 And I think Brett's one of the grittiest, most realistic wrestlers there's ever been. I didn't hit Flair in his prime, and he got me when I was a little ragged.

Speaker 1 But my matches with The Rock were always an interesting study because I brought out the best in him, and he brought out the best in me, and we were both these.

Speaker 1 You know, I was stone cold and he was The Rock.

Speaker 1 So when you had just these gigantic personalities, these gigantic characters with all these emotions, coupled with the fact that we both complemented each other's work style in the ring, magic.

Speaker 2 And also, I think you guys really made the announcing team better, too, when it was the two of you, because it really you had to draw a perfect line in the sand. Are you going with the corporate rock?

Speaker 2 Are you going with the badass Steve Austin? And hearing them take the rock side over you, just the crazy shit they would come up with to back up McMahon.

Speaker 2 That was probably, that's why I asked you earlier about like, did you ever go back and watch?

Speaker 2 Because I think you would really enjoy hearing what Jerry Lawler would have to say about your work, like, while you were doing it.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I like watching that.

Speaker 1 It's just like I just got finished talking to Hulk Hogan on a podcast a couple of weeks ago and going back and watching some of his stuff and listening to Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura commentate on some of their matches.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, you know, and Jesse was always the heel and Gorilla was the baby. And

Speaker 1 he would admonish, you know, the baby face when he was doing something. And, of course, cheer the hill when he was doing something.

Speaker 1 And so I can understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 And when I watch it back, I give so much credit to Jim Ross from being the announcer because, like, when he's yelling Stone Cold, Stone Cold, I yell at the top of his voice, or the Texas rattlesnake.

Speaker 1 And also, remember, the Stone Cold character was in a gray area. I was not the traditional babyface, and certainly not a white meat babyface, as we know in a business.

Speaker 1 So they pushed me as a baby from a very non-traditional standpoint. And so Jim Ross would say, I don't know why they like him.
Or, you know, I don't know why.

Speaker 1 He couldn't just heap praise on me because, you know, he knew how to heap the kind of backhanded praise. And it's an art form of getting talent over.
That's what Jim Ross is so good at.

Speaker 1 And that's why I give him so much credit for being that guy for me. And, of course, Lawler chipping in, doing the things he did in those high-pitched voices.
Maybe magic.

Speaker 1 Absolute magic.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Would you say that you are the person who's responsible for the most middle school detentions of the last 30 30 years?

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 DX is in second place. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Suck it.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, every time I'd be in detention, there would usually be like four guys in there wearing an awesome 316 shirt. It's because they like flipped off their teacher.

Speaker 1 I said between the years of like 1997 and 1999, I probably gave out like 5,000 to 10,000 stunners. Were you that guy? Yeah, I was that guy.
Just stunning everyone.

Speaker 1 Man, we was over in Germany one time. I was working with a guy, and normally I call all the matches, and for some reason, the guy's working with me.

Speaker 1 He goes, Stone Coast Stunner, stone cold stunner so i said it i hit him with stone cold stunner

Speaker 1 out on the floor i hit my ass on the concrete here's the thing the secret to the stunner is do it in a ring because you got a little little bit of give

Speaker 1 i hit my damn tailbone and that damn all every vertebrae in my back said you don't ever do that again so yeah it works best inside a ring with a little bit of give how did you come up with the stunner Fayetteville, North Carolina, Michael P.S.

Speaker 1 Hayes comes up to me right before Monday Night Raw. Hey kid, you got a second.
I've been using the Million Dollar Dream. And he goes, I got something I want to show you.

Speaker 1 So he showed me the stunner with a couple of enhancement guys. And so that's when I started employing it.
A couple weeks later, hey, we need a setup move. You know how Jacob Snake does.

Speaker 1 the short-arm DDT?

Speaker 1 He does a short-arm clothesline before the DDT. It's a setup move, so you have the anticipation.
By adding the kick, you have the anticipation of

Speaker 1 the stunner's next.

Speaker 1 So it was a two-stage process. Michael P.S.
Hayes came up with both of them. That's fantastic.
So, all right, so it brings up a good part of the show here. I want to do a little Remember When.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to embrace being a fanboy here, and I just want to do Remember When.

Speaker 1 I'm going to embrace a guy that's been hit with a lot of steel chairs and can't remember shit. Okay.
Remember when your first stunner on Vince? Yes. Matt Square Garden.
How was that?

Speaker 1 When you dropped that first stunner, and I think he said you could do it the easy way or the hard way, and then boom, you stunned him the hard way, baby.

Speaker 1 If you remember, he almost slipped out, almost lost him.

Speaker 1 It could have been a botch that ruined everything, but we got it. And that crowd just came unglued.
No one had ever done it before. And, of course, his sale job, we call it the crappie sale.

Speaker 1 Crappy's a fish.

Speaker 1 Put a fish on a pier, and they're kind of like this. He always sold the best.
Vince always sold the stunner the best. And he's so uncoordinated.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was the magic stunner, and that was a stunner heard around the world.

Speaker 2 Yes, he would also do this thing where he'd act like he was having a seizure right after he got stunned.

Speaker 1 His back was magic powers on him. Yeah, Yeah.
Foam at the mouth. That's the synapses of the nervous system.
I'm firing control away.

Speaker 2 Exactly. What about stunning Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 Hey, I gave him a lot of credit. We were there at Ford Field.
The setup was the team versus team. Whoever's losers team is going to get their head shaved.

Speaker 1 So you know Trump's not going to lose his hair. Right.
So Vince gets his head shaved.

Speaker 1 But before we go out, right before we go out, he goes, hey, Steve, I'm going to see if I get Donald to take a stunner. I said, really? He goes, yeah, I think I can get him to do it.

Speaker 1 So he goes, hey, Donald, come over here. And so he goes, this is Stone Stone Cold Steve Austin.
I says, hey, Mr. Trump, how are you?

Speaker 1 And he goes, listen, at the end of everything, when it's all said and done, Steve has a finished move, the Stone Cold Stunner. We think it'd be great if you took it.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, Trump's right-hand guy says, oh, don't take it, Don.

Speaker 1 They're lucky to have you here. Don't do it.
Don't do it. And then Trump looks at Vince and he goes, because they're bunched.
And he goes, do you think it'd help? Oh, God damn, pal.

Speaker 1 Of course, it'd blow the roof off place.

Speaker 1 So the guy agreed to do the stunner. So

Speaker 1 whatever your political opinions are, the the guy was cool enough to take my stutter. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy that the president of the United States got stunned.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of times when they show that picture of all those people and they're sitting around Trump, I've stunned like, I think 75% of them. Yeah, right.
Yeah, no, no. Grandkids.
Yeah, Vince.

Speaker 1 Stunned them all.

Speaker 1 What about when you attacked Vince in the hospital? One of my personal favorites. Oh, I love that.
Dressed up like a doctor. Yep.
Was that a real hospital? Yes. And you just crushed him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, it was his idea with that enema thing. And I said, I mean, you're a twisted guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hit him with a bedpan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The thing about the bedpan, because that was a shoot stainless steel bedpan. Yeah.
And so, like, I was over in the corner, like, bouncing that thing off my head, trying to find a sweet spot.

Speaker 1 Because if you hit a guy the wrong way with that, I mean, you can kill a guy with one of those things.

Speaker 1 But the funniest thing about it was while Vince was doing his scenes, like the nurse taking his blood pressure, getting his heart rate, taking his temperature, and he's being the sour patient, me and Mick Foley are in a closet about as big as my hat.

Speaker 1 And he's showing me Mr. Sako, and he's fixing to start using that as a finish.
He hadn't debuted it yet. Yep.

Speaker 1 And so two grown men, because he was going to do his thing with Yerpal the clown and blow up the balloons and entertain Mr. McMahon.
And we're in there laughing our fool heads off.

Speaker 1 And finally, they opened the door and said, listen, you guys got to shut up so we can film this. We've got to do the show.
So that's what happened.

Speaker 1 And me and Mick Foley, we used to be travel partners, so we're very dear friends. Yes.
But we did all that. But yeah, I hit him with that bedpan.
And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Had I just dinked it off of him, yeah, that killed the angle. So I laid it in.
Yeah, you did. You did.
What about the famous beer bath? That was also another personal favorite.

Speaker 1 Man, in the first, about the first 30 gallons, that was real beer. And man, I rolled down there and we bought that hose out and I started spraying them.

Speaker 1 And then, like, as I was spraying, I figured, man, it'd be a great vision for me to get myself a drink of beer. But it was coming out like, I don't know, like 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 So I basically ribbed myself. Because when I pointed it at myself, it almost blew my eyes out and drowned me at the same time.
Like, shit, that wasn't smart. So, but I know sold it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Did you, did you, I feel like you never missed, we're going to wrap up in a second.
I feel like you never missed cans when they were thrown to you.

Speaker 1 Man, I got some hands on. You have some hands.
Yeah, every 90, I get the rare drop, but my percentage, that was, I wouldn't remember that. I got

Speaker 1 it. I got my hands.
I was bashing a tide over here.

Speaker 1 I just caught a bunch for Raw at that reunion the other day. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 But, man, Mark Eaton, and I'd give him the signal, and some of them were so far away, you're like, Mark would go, you're catchering. And I'd say,

Speaker 1 bring them.

Speaker 1 I'd say something different, but he would throw them, but he'd go, and I'd say, yep. And so some of those things got launched, I dare say, close to 40 yards.
But I've always been able to catch things.

Speaker 1 And hell, I played running back in high school, and then in college, I played linebacker defensive end.

Speaker 1 But hell, if they left me at tie it in or something like that, I probably could have had a career.

Speaker 1 I believe it. I'm going to do the hand size.

Speaker 2 That's a little bit of a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I can catch stuff. I'm really good at catching alcoholic beverages.

Speaker 1 It's a God-given talent. Everything else just kind of slips.
I think it's so you really want a beer. I'm counting that as a catch, by the way.
You had it in your hands, and you weren't ready for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'll show you one more at the end of this interview. You'll see it.

Speaker 1 Make it up.

Speaker 2 You're also responsible for one of my favorite gifts of all time. We like to do this on the show called Behind the Gif, the one where you're swimming in beer.
Do you remember that? Yep.

Speaker 2 I'm going to pull this up for you.

Speaker 2 Can you explain what happened and whose idea that was for you to just go swimming in a pile of beer? Yep. This one right here.
Doing the freestyle, surrounded by probably, what, nine, ten cans of bush

Speaker 1 right there. Yep.

Speaker 1 How'd that come to be?

Speaker 1 Okay, so like anytime I was out there, even when I just went out to wrap up that reunion, when I stood up on the announcer's desk and flipped the lid off of it, that was off the air.

Speaker 1 It probably was on www.com. Anytime I'm out there, I'm looking for a prop.
I'm looking for something to add lib, something to utilize anything, no matter what it is.

Speaker 1 So all of a sudden I got a pile of beer in the middle of the damn ring. So sure I can walk in it, I can stand in it, but that's just walking in and standing in it.

Speaker 1 Who's going to forget, you know, me swimming freestyling in the beer? It just made sense. Yes.

Speaker 1 And so like the Undertaker, one time he had that symbol in the ring and it was laying on the third rope and leaning on the ring. And so I got on it and I was balancing.
like I was surfing.

Speaker 1 It's like the time I rolled down the office chair on that ramp and then crashed at the ramp. And, you know, that was a shoot crash.

Speaker 1 I threw that beer down and celebrated through my fingers up, and everybody goes, that's the greatest thing ever.

Speaker 1 So I'm always looking for the opportunity to ad lip something,

Speaker 1 to make something out of something that nobody else would see.

Speaker 1 And I've done that my entire career once I turned into Stone Cold to utilize any prop, any situation I can. That's what I was doing.
All right. Because you remember it.

Speaker 2 Of course. I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Stone Cold.
Thank you so much. Straight up, Steve Austin, August 12th on USA Network.
This has been a thrill. You sure you don't want my shirt? It looks too good on you.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely giving you my shirt.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, Stone Cold.
Take my shirt. I'll wear it on the season next year.

Speaker 1 I'm take your shirt. All right.
I need to get a new shirt. This all started with you.
Yeah, yeah. That's your fault.

Speaker 1 She said there's something about a guy in a Hawaiian shirt that just makes you want to like him.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have a bad visual for the Auburn Tigers.
So what exactly happened here, PFT?

Speaker 2 Okay, so the Auburn Tigers, they changed their logo over the weekend, but record scratch,

Speaker 2 they didn't change the logo. It was not referred to as a logo change.
It was called a new visual identity system.

Speaker 2 So again, to repeat, not a new logo. It's a new visual identity system.
So they made the U smaller. Shout out, like shots fired at Miami, I guess.
But they de-emphasized the U.

Speaker 2 They made the U smaller to make it the same size as the A. But that's, it's, again, important to note, it's not a logo change.
It's a new visual identity system.

Speaker 1 So this is like when the Browns, remember when the Browns got a new logo and just

Speaker 1 slightly changed the pantone of the color brown? And everyone's like, oh my God, look at it. They did a big, hey, guess what? The new Browns logo is coming.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was just the exact same thing with maybe one thing, like one piping different. That's what they're doing here.
But they're denying it. They're denying it.
They're kind of denying it.

Speaker 2 But the denial is, well, I kind of buy it like a new visual identity system is a lot, that's different than a logo. Because a logo is a visual identity system.

Speaker 2 So they have a new one of those, which is not a logo. Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Got it.
Which is stupid because what they should do is just lean into it and then get all new sales from the new logo.

Speaker 1 Because if I know something about SEC football, if you slightly tweak the logo, everyone will buy new stuff.

Speaker 1 They'll buy new stuff before they pay their mortgage, before they get food on the table for their kids. They've got to have the freshest new Auburn logo for the fall.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was a big miss by them.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be judging the fuck out of anybody I see rocking Auburn gear that has the slightly larger you in their visual identity system. What a bunch of pours.

Speaker 1 No, not for me. What a loser.
What a loser you'd have to be.

Speaker 2 I agree. Yeah, just lean into it.
Be like, hey, yeah, we changed our logo. Go buy some shit for us.
Also, I want to say I'm scaring myself because

Speaker 2 over the weekend, I was watching more NFL football because that's what we do. And the NFL logo, the 100 logo, is starting to grow on me.

Speaker 1 Like, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 I still hate it.

Speaker 2 But now it's starting to pop up on like ref's hats. And I'm like, that's kind of cool.
I'm liking this now.

Speaker 2 And then I catch myself and I'm like, no, PFT,

Speaker 2 you made a take. You need to commit to it.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 2 1% every day.

Speaker 1 It feels important. Yeah, it feels important.
Having the 100 logo, you're like, damn, this is important. This year is special.
Something big is going to happen.

Speaker 2 By next week, I'm going to need it in more places. I'm going to ask, how come it's not on the concussion tent?

Speaker 2 Why isn't it on the thing that the ref puts his head in when he's looking at porn or watching replay review or whatever he does?

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say right now, PFT, it'd be a pretty big power move if you had it as your letterhead

Speaker 1 on all the notes you take at your desk.

Speaker 2 Oh, I was going to say tattoo, even.

Speaker 1 You said it. Power move.

Speaker 1 Who would have to win the Super Bowl for you to get the 100 logo?

Speaker 2 The NFL logo tattoo?

Speaker 2 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 Who would have to be in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 What if it was the Browns Lions? You have to get the 100 logo.

Speaker 2 If it's Browns Lions in the Super Bowl, I'll get the tattoo for sure. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I think that's fair. Yeah.
I want to say

Speaker 1 I will too. I will too.

Speaker 2 If Blake Bortles wins Super Bowl MVP, I will also do that. Okay.

Speaker 1 So if Blake,

Speaker 1 I'll hanker you in.

Speaker 1 And this is not the same.

Speaker 2 This is not to say that we're anti-Jared Goff because we like Jared. No.
But this is like

Speaker 2 a Blake thing. Right.

Speaker 1 Look, it's nothing against you. It's not you.
It's us. It's Blake.
It's your name.

Speaker 1 Blake was you before you. So it's like, what are we going to do? He's our first love.

Speaker 1 That's going to hurt Jared's feelings.

Speaker 2 Sorry, Jared. Sorry, Jared.
Okay.

Speaker 1 If Jared wins. How about this? If If Jared wins the Super Bowl MVP,

Speaker 1 we'll party with him.

Speaker 2 I'll have a beer. A cold Budweiser with you, Jared.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll come over to his house and party. Deal.

Speaker 1 All right, we have talking soccer. Pulsicich got in.

Speaker 2 And that was talking soccer. Where?

Speaker 1 Chelsea.

Speaker 1 Pierce. He stunk.
Did he? He did. He stunk.
I watched the whole game. He stunk.
Is he not ready for the bright light?

Speaker 1 He came in and was 1-0, and then Manchester United scored three goals, like ripped him off.

Speaker 1 And I'm just going to say it, as someone who is ready to declare this the biggest moment in USA soccer history, yeesh. Maybe we have to start getting the narrative that he's not from America.

Speaker 1 So it's plus. He's going to qualify for the World Cup.
Yeah. Yeah, and he stinks for Chelsea.

Speaker 2 He spent most of his life playing in Germany, and by most of his life, I think like a couple seasons.

Speaker 1 Come back home.

Speaker 2 Come back home and dominate the MLS, Christian.

Speaker 1 Bro, there's a spot for you on Kansas City Sporting or whatever the hell they're called. Waiting for DC United.
I was talking soccer.

Speaker 2 We just lost John Rooney. There you go.

Speaker 1 What happened to him?

Speaker 2 He went back over to England and I was talking soccer.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's playing for like a second division team. He's a player coach now.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 It's actually the Championship League. So,

Speaker 1 say it correctly.

Speaker 2 Derby City,

Speaker 2 Derby City.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the hell it's called. Bar to the pitch.
Like you're fucking blowing.

Speaker 2 There's some playing on your fucking pitch.

Speaker 1 All right, last up before we get to our Monday reading, Hurd or Injured. Tim Tebow is out for the year, and he should probably just retire from all sports.

Speaker 2 That wasn't part of the headline we agreed on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was. That was.
It's over. PFT, it's over.
It's not over. It's over.
It's not over.

Speaker 2 No, listen, I was looking at his slash line this year.

Speaker 2 It's not great. He finished 2019, hitting 163 with four home runs, 19 RBIs, 98 strikeouts, and 239 at bats.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 not ideal, but

Speaker 2 we're waiting on the six-year bump for Tebow right now. So, you know,

Speaker 2 he's still working hard. That's what's important.

Speaker 1 I think there was a point maybe before the season that you predicted that he would be called up to the Mets.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I said that he should.

Speaker 1 He should. Yeah.
Are you sure you didn't say he will?

Speaker 2 No, I said that he should, and that they're idiots for not having done it already.

Speaker 1 Because I've firmly been in that Tim Thibault is not a baseball player. This is all a gimmick and a carnival act, and he should probably just stick to doing TV.

Speaker 2 Yeah, can you imagine if some superstar athlete decided to try their hands at minor league baseball? What a loser.

Speaker 1 Michael Jordan was a lot better than fucking Tim Tebow. What was his? A lot better.

Speaker 2 What was his war?

Speaker 1 A lot better. And if he had kept with it,

Speaker 1 he would have easily been in Major League Baseball. If it wasn't for the strike, he easily would have.
He absolutely had a better slash line.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Tebow, here's what concerns me, though, about Tebow. He had a cut on his hand.

Speaker 2 like three years three weeks ago and it still hasn't healed yet and they're they're benching him for the rest of the season because his cut won't heal, which is, like, on your hand, that is a symptom of stigmata.

Speaker 1 That's bad. That is very bad.
So we've got to be worried about a lot more than just him not being able to hit a curveball. Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 What level was Thibaut at?

Speaker 2 He was at AAA. So in AA last year.
He was? Yeah. In AA last year, he hit, I think, like two,

Speaker 2 I'm going to make this up, 270-something?

Speaker 1 No, there's no way he hit 270.

Speaker 2 No, it was pretty close to 270-something.

Speaker 1 He hit 270 last year.

Speaker 2 But here's something interesting: Sabre Metrics, his lifetime on base percentage. You know what that is? What? 316.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 I just made that up. There's no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, no way. No way.
He doesn't walk enough. He strikes out all the time.
All right, last up, we have a Monday reading.

Speaker 1 This actually comes from a friend of ours, Sexual Jumanji, at Sexual Jumanji. Yes, that is his Twitter handle.

Speaker 1 That was weird to just say. A friend of ours, Sexual Jumanji.

Speaker 2 Just be normal and call him Sex J.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sex J is what he goes by on these internet streets. So he had a very funny thread about Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't know if you guys heard, but Jeffrey Epstein, quote-unquote, killed himself.

Speaker 1 By the way, do you have any conspiracy theories for this, PFT?

Speaker 2 I'm going to defer all my conspiracy theories to the band Foster the People. You may remember them from the hit song Pumped Up Kicks.
And they tweeted out that it's not his body. It's a decoy body.

Speaker 2 So he's alive, probably on a private jet somewhere, and they killed somebody else that looked kind of like him.

Speaker 1 This is the perfect conspiracy theory where no matter what your political leaning is, you can just co-opt it to say the other side did it. Oh, for sure.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 Everyone's pointing fingers. I'm waiting on Spider-Man meme.

Speaker 2 I'm waiting on Neil deGrasse Tyson to point out the fact that every year millions of children aren't molested. So why are we getting so upset about this?

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. All right.
So SexJ had a tweet thread about a sign. He pitched a Seinfeld episode.
We'll start here.

Speaker 1 A Seinfeld episode called The Inmate, where George is on tour of MCC Manhattan Correctional

Speaker 1 Facility. I don't don't know what the fuck the C, other C stands for.
And Epstein is like, hey, nice shirt. Then ask George if he can have it.

Speaker 1 Then Epstein hangs himself with the shirt, and George is walking around shirtless. This is actually, I believe this all as it starts.

Speaker 1 Joe, you tried to do George Austin.

Speaker 2 You tried to get him to kill himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. Here, take my shirt.
George, I thought he just liked the shirt. How was I supposed to know he was suicidal? Jerry, you thought he just liked the shirt? Really?

Speaker 1 Kramer, bursts into apartment. You guys hear about Epstein? Whacked him.

Speaker 1 Jerry, oh, we heard all right. George gave him his shirt.
Kramer, you know they found him hanging by a shirt. Classic Kramer moment where he puts the pieces together.

Speaker 1 You can see him doing it where he does a little shuffle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Points at him. George, you killed Epstein.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 way too spot on.

Speaker 2 This is really, really good, but the one thing that is missing, I need a detailed breakdown of how every character from Seinfeld would have voted so I can ruin my image of the characters.

Speaker 2 So, like, Jerry, I feel like Jerry's a solid Harris. I think he would vote Harris.

Speaker 2 George becomes a Bernie bro, gets like full-on into it at some point. Probably, like, he harasses some women online.

Speaker 2 I don't have to work? Yeah, I don't have to work free health care.

Speaker 1 Or he might be gang.

Speaker 2 He might be Yang, actually.

Speaker 3 Yang Gang. Yeah, I was going to say Kramer would be Yang Gang just for the thousand bucks.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, Yang Gang.

Speaker 2 George, also, I don't know, some stuff in his background. I would say David Duke.

Speaker 1 George, I just gave him a shirt. And might I add, it was a nice shirt, by the way.
He was very grateful for it. Kramer, oh, I bet he was grateful.
All right. Jerry, all right, all right, enough.

Speaker 1 So what if George killed Jeffrey Epstein? Elaine, George killed Epstein? Get out!

Speaker 1 Sucks Jay's a fucking genius for this. George, George, back at prison.
So I was here the other day on a tour and a funny thing happened and I seemed to have left my shirt here.

Speaker 1 I was wondering if I could get it back. Prison Guard, who, by the way, the only thing Sex Jay left out, Prison Guard, who eventually will someday become like a huge star for his own sitcom.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, Prison Guard is actually

Speaker 1 the dad from

Speaker 1 Modern Family. Oh, okay.
Ed O'Neill? He's 21 years old. Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The other dad.

Speaker 2 Aren't they all dads in modern? That's like the premise of the show. Like, here's a bunch of dads.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, the dad, though. You know who I'm talking about, the dad.
The main dad.

Speaker 1 David Wallace? Look alike. Oh, yeah.
Okay, fine. That's perfect.
He's David Wallace.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the prison guard is David Wallace, a 21-year-old David Wallace. Prison guard, a shirt.
Hey, wait a sec. Aren't you the guy who got lost on the tour and accidentally locked himself in a cell?

Speaker 1 George, didn't think you'd remember that happening. Now, about that shirt, it really is a nice shirt.
It's been my family's generation,

Speaker 1 you see. And then George standing next to a cute female corrections officer, you know, I killed Epstein.

Speaker 1 I love it. That's all fucking perfect.

Speaker 2 I love it, Sex Jack.

Speaker 1 This is, yeah,

Speaker 1 the whole conspiracy theory is going wild.

Speaker 1 We just need football back. I feel like if that happens

Speaker 1 on a, you know, like October Saturday, Saturday morning,

Speaker 1 maybe we get the conspiracy theories for an hour and then everyone else moves on.

Speaker 2 Right. McNabb's like, I didn't know that a human life could end in a tie.
And then we

Speaker 2 step onto that.

Speaker 1 And then he's like, okay, but Missouri is about to kick off right now against Florida. So we've got to go.

Speaker 2 So SEC, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like, real?

Speaker 2 Like, this is, you were right when you said that this is one of those conspiracies that everybody can get in on.

Speaker 2 It's almost like bringing us together as a country, the fact that we don't believe the official story that we're being told about this.

Speaker 1 Correct, correct. Everyone's like, everyone has the exact same idea at the exact same moment.
Like, he didn't kill himself. Yes, we know.

Speaker 1 And then who's to blame? We don't know, but we'll all just guess. I never find out.

Speaker 2 You always have to ask, like, who stands to gain the most.

Speaker 1 I probably. Everyone.

Speaker 2 You can cross me off. Yeah, everyone.
You can cross me off the list. I stood to lose a lot because I was going to release an e-book.
a hilarious e-book about Jeffrey Epstein later on that day.

Speaker 2 And then I woke up and I was like, wow, none of these jokes are funny anymore because he's dead.

Speaker 2 So I'm the real victim when we want to think about it here.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
All right. That's our show.
We got Matt LaFleur coming on Wednesday. Little training camp bonus.
Bonus training camp stuff.

Speaker 2 We'll see everyone then. Love you guys.

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