Lions HC Matt Patricia, Ghost Hunting In Milwaukee, Hard Knocks & Mt Rushmore Of Cheese

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Lions coach Matt Patricia. We are live in Milwaukee, the Pfister Hotel.
We have Ghost Hunters.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was gold. I don't know if I'm going to be able to recreate that.

Speaker 1 All right, wait, should I start again?

Speaker 1 I might wait till we get into the show. You know what? Just run all this.
This is a great cold open. So, yeah, you heard PFT's real joke there.
Nailed it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you didn't? No, you probably heard over my mic, though.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear it over there. He said.
Oh, no, wait, wait. We'll do it.
We'll run it back.

Speaker 1 Okay, but if what it was better than people actually heard it, then hey, Scouts on or pretend like it's the first time. All right.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, August 7th, and we are live on the road from the Pfister Hotel. That's right, Pfister.
I barely even know her. Nailed it.

Speaker 1 We're about to ghost hunt. We're going to do that.

Speaker 1 We're going to introduce the ghost hunters at Hot Sea Cool Throne. Now, to just back up for a second, because the Pfister Hotel, that is widely known as a very haunted hotel here in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of Major League Baseball players that are afraid to stay here because of the ghosts. So we brought in two ghost hunters to see if there were any ghosts in Hank's room.

Speaker 1 We'll get to them later. Yeah, they're coming up.
Spoiler alert. Hank is going to have a very interesting night sleeping tonight.

Speaker 3 Spooky.

Speaker 1 Okay, so before we do all of that, we also have Mount Rushmore Cheeses and Matt Patricia pack show for you. But before we do all of that, Hard Knox.
Yes. Hardknox is back.

Speaker 1 Derek Carr is awkward as fuck. Here's my big takeaway.
He seemed like he was reading off a script.

Speaker 1 I'll take that back. He wasn't reading off a script.
He just knew the cameras were on him the whole time. So he was like trying his best.
He was like a robot trying to impersonate a quarterback.

Speaker 1 He was, it's very clear that the message the Raiders are trying to send is Derek Carr is our quarterback.

Speaker 1 And we're going to give him a lot of airtime and we're going to show how tough he is, including bullying his two young kids to fight in the living room while they're playing basketball.

Speaker 1 That felt scripted. Well, if you're a car, you have to be like, don't fight against each other, because if you cry, your mascara is going to run.
Yes, right. So it started with that.

Speaker 1 It also started with Antonio Brown in Miami and his feet, his big feet having a big problem. So those were the two, like...

Speaker 1 You know, like Derek Carr's, it's going to be Derek Carr's hard knocks. He's the quarterback.
He's tough. And Antonio Brown's feet, we don't know.
And I forgot to mention, great opening.

Speaker 1 Do you think Gruden wrote that like beforehand? I don't want dreams, man. I want nightmares.
He said, I'm not in the dream business.

Speaker 1 I want you guys to make someone else's life a nightmare, to crush their dreams. And then he's like, we're not playing for the Gator Bull, the Peach Bull, the Tax Slayer Bull.

Speaker 1 We're playing for the Super Bowl. Okay, guys.
I liked it. And it was very misleading how intense that episode started compared to what happened during the episode.

Speaker 1 It's very obvious that John Gruden's not going to let them show anything that's like remotely interesting.

Speaker 1 We just have to hope for next week with Sean McVay trying to out Gruden John Gruden, just like saying the exact same lines.

Speaker 1 They're going to get into a music volume off where they're going to just keep raising the volume on their music until all their eardrums explode.

Speaker 1 The one thing that Gruden does that is always fascinating, because Gruden, you're right.

Speaker 1 He's not going to show anything really for the camera other than

Speaker 1 the big barbecue at the end where he's like, hey, family first. I'm a coach and I love your family.
Gruden, though, the camera's just catching his face in a perma squint. I could watch that all day.

Speaker 1 Like, he's just standing there, relaxed, but looking so angry. It's his resting heartbeat, and he wants to kill someone.

Speaker 1 I can't figure out what John Gruden because he always has one eye that's like kind of cocked. I can't determine if it's the same eye each time or if he switches it up from time to time.

Speaker 1 That was one thing I noticed. The other thing I noticed about him, he never worn sunblock in his life.
No. He is anti-he He thinks he's tougher than the sun.
Yes. The fucking sun.

Speaker 1 And I believe that he is.

Speaker 1 He wears so little sunblock that he has an ear tan. So behind his ear is like super white because he always stands directly facing into the sun to prove that he's tougher.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, speaking of the sun, Derek Carr, you did oil up. You oiled up your arms.
You pretended that it was sunscreen lotion.

Speaker 1 You dropped the dad line, which I think one of your kids is like six. So you can't be like, I'm a dad now.
You've been a dad for a while. When you get to stop using I'm a dad, no

Speaker 1 i'm a dad now i think you can't use after your kids like one okay i'll make a note of that we're gonna make a note no hey i got you guys you guys are understanding what we heard mark the tip i'm a dad now is different than i'm a dad by the way how pissed off do you think lebron is that he can't have training camp in napa valley

Speaker 1 he's got to be over the moon sheesh um so also mayoc made a brief appearance i i need a little bit more mayoc you got to have me like taste some of these stars a little bit because you're right the only real glimpse into Gruden we got was at the beginning and then when he had the barbecue which him and Mark Davis probably had to like fight tooth and nail to figure out if Guy Ferry was going to cook the P.F.

Speaker 1 Chang's menu or the Hooters menu. Mike, Mark Davis being a white sunglass guy is something I don't think I knew, but I knew.

Speaker 1 You knew it. You knew it.
You knew you felt it.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever seen a picture with him with his white sunglasses, but you felt it in your bones.

Speaker 1 He's a white sunglasses, Oakley's maybe, like the pair that you buy for 15 bucks at a gas station and he's like check out these sweet sunglasses i got they're pretty awesome his entire paycheck goes directly to pacific sunlight it's he he is he's just a beautiful specimen of a man um other notes i wrote down uh

Speaker 1 your guy what was his name ronald ollie ronald ollie big time like they tried what who's beeping i think that's bubba Oh, okay. I think it's you.
Yeah, you tried to just, wow. That was a quick blame.

Speaker 1 It's something that was 100% you. I was hoping that

Speaker 1 everybody would look at Bubba while I normally switched my phone off.

Speaker 1 So, Ronald Ollie, who, because you know how annoying that is, like, someone's sitting at work being like,

Speaker 1 did my phone just go off? Well, we have no sirens.

Speaker 1 I have to color it up a little bit for everybody. Ronald Ollie, that was the quickest.
Like, we're going to try to get you to feel bad for this guy, even though he got cut.

Speaker 1 I think that's the fastest cut in Hard Knock's history. He was cut 25 minutes in.

Speaker 1 He also had an unbelievable line when he said, talking about Last Chance U, saying you need to experience it to experience it. That's a fact.
It's a fact. You can't experience

Speaker 1 without experience.

Speaker 1 The thing with him, too, is like that was what he was like in the beginning of Last Chance U, except then he got it figured out and turned around.

Speaker 1 So it was like, this is like the real-life version of him.

Speaker 1 Also, Jonathan Abrams, they kind of brought him out a little bit at the beginning.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. I don't know how annoying he's going to be.
I liked him when he was interacting with John Gruden a little bit. At the beginning, when Gruden was like, don't hit.

Speaker 1 I like the swag. But then when you sit him across from somebody like Derek Carr that doesn't know how to handle him, Derek Carr just, he's short.
I think he's a robot, actually.

Speaker 1 I think Derek Carr is a robot and he doesn't know how to deal with personality.

Speaker 1 That is true, but the Gruden, Jonathan Abram situation, that told me everything I know about Jonathan Abram because Gruden was being serious and Jonathan Abram kept on doing that thing like, we're joking, right?

Speaker 1 We're joking. He doesn't know how to read a room.

Speaker 1 He is a quintessential guy who like, not a bad guy. Seems like he's going to be a hell of a football player.
Wants to just tackle, tackle, tackle, but he does not know how to read a room.

Speaker 1 He's the guy who he will keep making jokes until John Gruden's like, dude, I'm not joking. Stop blowing people up in padless practice.
Right, right.

Speaker 1 He just couldn't figure it out.

Speaker 1 He blew up the

Speaker 1 lead blocker and then went after Luke Wilson.

Speaker 1 Our boy Luke getting another chance. He had a nice line, though.
He was like, wait till we put the pads on, dude. I'm going to come at you.
So, shout out, Luke. Way to go.

Speaker 1 Didn't know you were on the team.

Speaker 1 He popped up in all three of us. By the way, we watched it in AWL's house.
So thank you to

Speaker 1 Allie. Thank you to Allie.
It was very nice. And her boyfriend.
And her boyfriend and her dog, Georgie Corgi. And her cat.
So it was an awesome setup.

Speaker 1 But I think all three of us are like, Luke, there is.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank's going to double check because I think it might be Kelly. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think it's Ali.

Speaker 1 I think it's Ali. So what else did you have from

Speaker 1 Need More John Madden? Yeah. John Madden was a highlight when he was like, this is what football is.
A football guy is coming out here hitting the seven football guy, blocking sled. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone needs a sled in their backyard. He said every former football player

Speaker 1 needs to have a blocking sled in their backyard when they retire. Yes, yes.
Oh, the other two notes I took down, Guy Fieri, electric, as always. Of course.

Speaker 1 His son's name, Ryder. You didn't know that?

Speaker 1 I think I knew that, but I forgot it because then I looked it up and his other son's name is Hunter. It's like, dude, you just, you couldn't be more Guy Fieri.

Speaker 1 Would it surprise you to know that Guy Fieri's son plays the drums? No. No.
No. The other one skateboards.

Speaker 1 I think they both skateboards. Yes, the cool ass kids.

Speaker 1 And then speaking of kids, Antonio Brown, I forgot about this part. Starting the entire Hard Knocks episode, basically trying to

Speaker 1 erase the fact that he went crazy for three months and every teammate of his in Pittsburgh hated him by showing us how cute his kids are. They are very cute.
And you know what? It worked.

Speaker 1 It absolutely worked. When he's like, you ready to go to Napa? And the kid was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then the Rothlessberger line, like, you're way to go.
That is, I tip my cap to you, Antonio Brown. Everyone's like, damn, he's got cute kids.

Speaker 1 And they think that Derek Carr's name is Derek Carter, which I might start calling him Derek Carter too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, super. Way, way.
Derek Carter's number one, Nathan Peterman, number two, Derek Carr, number three. Also, shout out Mike Glennon's long neck.
Made a quick appearance. That was really good.

Speaker 1 I don't think we saw Mike Glennon's face. We We just saw the back of his neck.
You know what neck that is when you see it. Yep.
Also, Vantes Berfick. He's on the team.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That was pretty cool to see.

Speaker 1 Him and Richie Incognito are not going to like each other. A lot of personalities.
So, overall, what would you say? Grade for the first episode.

Speaker 1 How am I grading this?

Speaker 1 On a scale of five balls? Yeah, five balls. Two balls.
Yeah, I'd give it like two and a half balls because I thought it was good, but the expectations have like I'm expecting five balls all around and

Speaker 1 it just didn't have the pop. I needed a fight.
I needed maybe a little less Jonathan Abram and a little less awkward Derek Carr. Yeah, yeah.
Bubba, you okay? What did you give it on the balls?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like two balls. Two balls.
Good ball. Good score.
So Rookie scored.

Speaker 1 Hard Knox, honestly, this is where it's like we've always kind of differentiated in this, where I'm like, I've just kind of always been like a Patriots fan and cared less about the outside world of football.

Speaker 1 Hard Knox has never really done it for me. But that's, yeah, like the first season I watched was the Bucs was bad.
The Texans was bad.

Speaker 1 The Browns one was good, awesome. But not like you, the way, I don't know.
I just like, I think I get excited about it because you guys get me excited about it. And then I watch it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you're coming from a position of privilege. That's right.

Speaker 1 And it's also hard Knox is, you know, we did the whole thing on Thursday, which we probably, we admitted, like, when they do the Hall of Fame game, we get excited.

Speaker 1 And then two minutes in, we're like, this sucks.

Speaker 1 Hard Knox feels like the official start of football season because I'm thinking, and it always fucks my brain up because they're taping it, but it's also happening right now.

Speaker 1 No, that's what I'm saying. Like, when you see something happen to the Raiders, you always think to yourself, I can't wait to see this on Hard Knocks.
Right, right.

Speaker 1 And the Rams and Raiders are probably practicing. They probably practice today.
That's weird. And we saw

Speaker 1 McVay and Gruden, and it's like, well, how does this work? Also, McVay's beard looks a lot better. Did you notice that? Well, he's obviously been nagged enough by us.
He's a growing boy.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great watching the two of them just talk in the same exact language back and forth. Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's like a dog staring in the mirror barking at itself.

Speaker 1 All right. Other news.
Before we get to Hot C Cool Throne, Hank, you showed us this. The ultimate stay woke.
They're trying to keep Rich Paul down. Is that pretty much it?

Speaker 1 So the NCAA has created a new rule. This isn't my stay woke, by the way.
No, it's LeBron's stay woke.

Speaker 1 They created a new rule that any agent that wants to talk to a player before they declare for the draft, I think, has to have a bachelor's degree. Rich Paul does not.

Speaker 1 Rich Paul is disrupting the business. He's basically making everyone nervous.
As much as it pains me to say this, I love it because I love people who make the establishment super nervous.

Speaker 1 The NCAA has been just milking everyone forever. Having a disruptor in there, and when I say disruptor, I obviously mean DSRPTR.
No vows.

Speaker 1 No vowels is great for everyone because NCAA will have to change if Rich Paul keeps disrupting.

Speaker 1 People are also saying it's the NBA's involved because they hate how Rich Paul and LeBron have taken so much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like how last year they controlled Anthony Davis, controlled his own destiny,

Speaker 1 how the trade deadlines and that stuff doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there's a chance that it's the NBA and NCAA. In cahoots.
I think that you're probably right on this.

Speaker 1 That's what LeBron's thinking. It's not a bad idea overall to have your agent and your right-hand man have like

Speaker 1 education a four-year education i think that's probably an advisable thing in most circumstances but i don't think they needed to go ahead and make a rule out of it like right it's very clear that i think they're going after lebron as lebron's saying i'm very glad that i have you guys on my team now supporting well no we're on team rich paul i think the nba should suspend lebron we're on clutch no no no We're on Team Rich Paul, not clutch.

Speaker 1 Just Rich Paul. No, as a person.
But clutch with

Speaker 1 no you. No, no, no, no, no.
Team anti-establishment. Yeah, right.
Okay. If Rich Paul, he's an agent of K.

Speaker 1 Out there fighting the power. No, you're right.
We are a badass podcast. Yeah.
We are badass. Fucking podcasting.
Fighting the power.

Speaker 1 How much of a power move must it feel like? If you're Rich Paul and you go to sleep tonight and you're like, they had to make a rule because I'm so fucking good at my job.

Speaker 1 That has to feel awesome. Like, as much as it sucks for Rich Paul, I actually think it's a great, like,

Speaker 1 at the end of the day, you are probably saying, this is so sweet that I'm so damn good and I control.

Speaker 1 And they're so scared of me they had to make a rule so that I have to go to University of Phoenix next year or have like he's probably gonna have Kyle Kuzma take a bunch of classes Trump University.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can get a degree from wherever you want right he needs to do that wait does it say accredited university?

Speaker 1 We don't know if he could just make his own unique he should make his own college do honorary degrees count yeah Because the University of Akron would definitely give him one, right? Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 LeBron could get the promise school. Ohio State would do it for him.
I would not be surprised if he made his own college at this point. Great.
Just gave himself a degree. Great.
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 Also, the name Rich Paul. People forget just how cool that is.
Your name is Rich, like Paul. You're fucking loaded, man.
Not Richard, Rich. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a guy that I would trust in my money. Yeah, absolutely.
All right, let's get to some hot seat cool throne. Before we do that, we need to mention two things.

Speaker 1 One, PMT Gold is coming out tomorrow. So go to barstoolgold.com slash PMT Don Brown and we answer all the gold members' questions.

Speaker 1 And the second thing we need to mention is that we are officially ghost hunting for the rest of this podcast.

Speaker 1 So we have the guys and girls from Supernatural Investigation Crew, Aaron and Anley, SIC in the Shadows. You can find them on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, everywhere.

Speaker 1 They have come up from Northern Illinois, and they are... ghost hunting the Pfister hotel with us.
Can I just say that I'm sure they're going to find something?

Speaker 1 And you could probably see it on the cameras right now. Like stuff that we're not able to perceive with our eyes.
I walked in this hotel. I got the chills immediately.
Right on my

Speaker 1 other room. I'm telling you, I walked into the lobby.
I got chills. I saw the big painting behind the front desk.
I'm pretty sure that was my face in the painting. Like an old version of me.

Speaker 1 So I found out about the Pfister Hotel.

Speaker 1 I've stayed here a couple times before, but a friend of mine who works with the Cubs told me that starlin castro refused to stay here and then it there's been some articles written people i think in milwaukee know the phister hotel very well pretty popular in this area with uh with all the baseball players they always will stay here but they always report that they don't want to stay here no more they're like send us down the street okay else that's aaron by the way so what hits have we gotten so far we have a thing called an electroscope and it'll light up and measures static readings So it'll light up red and green.

Speaker 3 And it's kind of chaos yes or no questions on it too.

Speaker 4 And Annley's in the other room in the bedroom area, and she's been getting sighs, she's been asking some silent questions, and it's been lighting up to her questions.

Speaker 1 What kind of silent questions are we talking about?

Speaker 4 Hanley, you want to like what are you asking?

Speaker 1 Well, actually, save it for the end. We'll save it for the end, but we just know that we are now podcasting with ghosts.
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 This is a group podcast, and you can follow along and watch the ghosts on Barcelona Gold.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, Aaron, we're going to talk to him at the end. We're going to do guys on ghouls, they're going to continue ghost hunting while we do this the rest of the show.

Speaker 1 But we're going to get to hot seat cool throne. Hank, why don't you start? My hot seat is Kanye West.
Oh,

Speaker 1 there was a, I'm sure you guys read it, a top 50 rappers of all time list that came out. Was Drake on there? It was corny ass.
Who tweeted this?

Speaker 1 Someone tweeted it, but it was Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast. He, like, just went into it.
Shout out. Shout out Mal.
Mal, our friend. We got to do a crossover.

Speaker 1 Got to do a crossover. Great, great show, Joe Button podcast.

Speaker 1 He just, like, he ripped into the whole thing on his, on his podcast, and then that sparked a debate amongst Twitter and the rest of the world, which then basically caused every single like DJ, notable DJ that's like does a show in like New York, Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Everyone had to come out with their own list,

Speaker 1 which then sparked out more debate. I don't know if Dante pays.

Speaker 1 That's a good question. I would love to see Dante say.

Speaker 1 Point of order. What's the difference between a DJ and an MC?

Speaker 1 I think an MC is on. Parmitskos.
Yeah, okay. A DJ is like a majority of the money

Speaker 1 songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do the electric songs

Speaker 1 as their closer. Okay.
I'm just making this up, but I'm pretty sure MC is live, and DJ is like, you hear them on the radio. All right, so Kanye wasn't on the list.
Wasn't on the list.

Speaker 1 When it was just a random person who tweeted this, which I love. This is so peak, you know, 2009 complex or something.

Speaker 1 That you can just tweet a list and then have everyone get mad about it, and it's just a random person.

Speaker 1 What about John Cena? He was not on the list TV. What about Will Smith?

Speaker 1 Will Smith was on the list TV?

Speaker 1 I would have Will Smith number one. Fuck.
And And The Rock number two. He was pretty good on that Fuji song.
Yes. And then John Cena.
It would be majority just professional wrestlers.

Speaker 1 What about Kobe Bryant? Nope. Damn.
No. A lot of misses.
What about me and Big Cat? Yeah, it was an account. It was an account.
No, so this is what it was. It was an account with 400 followers.

Speaker 1 Said Joe Bunny is the number three rapper of all time. Awesome.
I love it. That's so mad.
And people got mad.

Speaker 1 We got to do that.

Speaker 1 We got to create a burner account and see, like, just do lists constantly. Constantly make people mad.
Yeah, just constant lists.

Speaker 1 I mean, hey, hey, we made that 40 under 40 list, which was essentially just a retweet list. Please retweet.
Yes, please do retweet it. We dropped the spot.

Speaker 1 It wasn't even, yeah, I might have had my facts. I'm looking this up now.
It wasn't Joe Budden that, it was Joe Budden being three on the list that caused it to go crazy.

Speaker 1 Because people are like, how the fuck is Joe Budden three? Yeah, he was

Speaker 1 too. Well, then he talked about it, obviously.
And being like, thanks. Yeah.
Okay. I love that.
He's like targeting one specific celebrity and getting it going that way. You know what we should do?

Speaker 1 We should do a ranking of the best female singers in the last 20 years is like the top mention in here. Rock him has 11 names before

Speaker 1 he ate the trash? Yeah, shit. Come on, Scott.
You're a boy. Rock him.
The easiest way, best female singers of the last 20 years, and just don't include Beyonce. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And just make Carly Ray Jepson number one. Yeah.
Immediately goes viral. Dude, this guy is like

Speaker 1 Chuck D. Like all these, everyone was responding.
Like, everyone ate the trash. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Hot seat, all these people for eating the the trash. Wale.
Because then it's like

Speaker 1 all the other rappers that weren't on it were like,

Speaker 1 Wale came out. I was like, I'm on the list.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be cocky, but I'm a top 50 rapper of all time. What about Marky Mark? Was he on there? Nope.
Damn it. This list stunks.
He does. Vanilla ice?

Speaker 1 We make our own of top 50 rappers that no one that didn't make the top 50 rappers list.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is picnic tables. Oh, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So another thing that I'm sure you guys have seen, basically the internet the past two days has been the pigs, which I'm hoping you guys can explain to to me i have that as well i'm sure pft does throw hogs yeah i don't get that at all oh yeah it's a problem you know what the internet has been like a waste of time wrapping lists and this fucking stupid meme with the picnic tables where you just put anything in a picnic table and say which one would you want to sit at well i think this is like it was probably mid-august to get into like the psyche of the internet here for a second i think what has happened is when there is a mass shooting and a tragic event and like everyone doesn't really know how to react online because like that's really sad They just figure out the dumbest things we can then jump to to talk about.

Speaker 1 So it's like we can't go from mass shootings to like, oh, who's an elite quarterback? We got to go mass shootings to a picnic table meme.

Speaker 1 So it's like kind of a palate cleanser to getting back to the other stupid things we've talked about.

Speaker 1 It's really a metaphor for sitting down at the picnic table of ideas to let them develop and have intelligent discourse with each other. I think you're right, Bigette.

Speaker 1 I think that there's something to be said about like if you're going through a weird time like in terms of the national

Speaker 1 serious discussion, you long for something stupid to argue about.

Speaker 1 And then everyone, you have to have something to get into a fight with somebody about that doesn't, that kind of like displaces the real fight that you want to have. Correct.

Speaker 1 So it's essentially like, oh, this is something we can all talk about and make fun of that isn't serious to get us off the serious stuff.

Speaker 1 And then we will get to like the medium serious stuff that everyone takes too seriously and gets mad about online, which is just a regular Wednesday.

Speaker 1 The other thing was that there was the all decades list for the 2010s, and Kobe was third team on it. Yes, I saw that, which I honestly think is like fair.
Well, but he got hurt.

Speaker 1 No, he was third team. Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, third team. Yeah, I would have to say that.
And then look at the Kobe stands being like, he should be first team. It's Kobe, but it's like 2010s.

Speaker 1 He had a couple good years, right? Yeah. Yeah.
He won a title. Right.
In 2001. Well, 2411.
24 Kobe 10. If you're looking at the whole decade, his body work over the 2010s is not like.

Speaker 1 He broke all his records then, so that counts. Like at the end end of his career.
And his Achilles, too. Yeah, and his Achilles.

Speaker 1 And he dropped like 70 points against the team that wasn't trying in that last game.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome moment. Shout out, Kobe.
Shout out, Kobe.

Speaker 1 That's it, right? That's it. PFT.
Okay, my hot seat is the NFL 100 logo. I'm already sick of it.
I'm just squatting on this take.

Speaker 1 I think everyone else is going to get sick of it, too. They've overdone it.
It's not that cool of a logo to begin with, but they've put it everywhere so far this year.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be in every single game on every single field. Oh, yeah.
On, like, they're going to have special patches on the jerseys.

Speaker 1 Chris Collinsworth's probably going to be wearing a lapel pen at some point with the 100 logo on it. I'm already sick of it.
And we've just had the Hall of Fame game. Okay.

Speaker 1 So my blood is going to be boiling over the course of this year. The problem is the 50 logo and the 75 was awesome.
It was awesome. The 75, that was a diamond, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the 1994 I'm looking at right now. That's a sick logo.
Yep. 100, they didn't put any thought into it.
It looks like, you know what? John O'S Vortex. It looks a little bit like the Vortex.

Speaker 1 It also looks a little bit like an Expansion League football logo. Yes, yes, you're absolutely right.
I already forgot the name of the Expansion League that folded this spring.

Speaker 1 AAF. AAF.
I was going to say AFL. That would have worked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looks like the AAF logo. Yes.
If it was designed by somebody with a headwound. Okay, that's a good hot seat.
And my cool throne is Michael Crabtree.

Speaker 1 So Michael Crabtree decided not to sign with the Arizona Cardinals yesterday. They brought him in.
They got into negotiations with him. And he said, thanks, but no thanks.
I think I'm worth more.

Speaker 1 It would have been a terrible move for him because he would have had to play against Akib Talib twice. And so we were.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the dun chain was about to hang over his neck, and Akib Tlib was about to swipe it off and spike it on the ground.

Speaker 1 Well, he probably was like, you guys are going to pay me $3 million, but I'm going to lose at least $500,000 in chains. He should have had like an escalator in his contract.

Speaker 1 If I get my chain snatched,

Speaker 1 you'll replace it for me. That would have been chain and chain.

Speaker 1 Damn. come on, Michael Crabtree.

Speaker 1 The guy moves the chains. Um, all right, is that it? That's it.
All right, I got two hot seats. The first one is PFT.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're taping this on August 6th, and you have yet to wish Mike Greenberg a happy birthday.

Speaker 1 It was in my notes. Oh, okay.
Yeah. So, when were you gonna do it? It was in my notes.
I was gonna do it.

Speaker 1 Fun fact, we're recording this

Speaker 1 after we were

Speaker 1 going to start the show.

Speaker 1 My notebook.

Speaker 1 My bad. All right, so pretending to be a good one.

Speaker 1 I'll do it now. Okay, do it now.
All right, do it now. Cool Throne, second Cool Throne, Mike Greenberg.
It's his birthday.

Speaker 1 He talked about it the entire show on Get Up this morning, which I tuned in in a while. How old? How old is Mike? I don't know.
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 Not a day over 45, I would assume. Yeah, he seems like a guy who will just be forever in his 40s.
Yeah, the note that I had, I was going to do all my ad reads in my Mike Greenberg voice.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, you will.

Speaker 1 So, you'll do them at the end of the Matt Patricia interview. Yes, you'll have that to look forward to.

Speaker 1 Mike Greenberg, he is the promo code in our microphone. He is the wind beneath our wings.

Speaker 1 Through the man who needs a fork and knife to eat a grape. Well, he also eats grapes in three bites.
Three bites

Speaker 1 with pizzas. Pizzas and wings, fork and a knife.
And gloves. The grape, yeah, he has to.
Doesn't do the gloves. That's for wings.
Jerk off. Sandwiches.
Sandwiches. Okay, sandwiches, gloves.

Speaker 1 Mike Greenberg does not jerk off. Mike Greenberg gets an erection and waits for God to take care of it.

Speaker 1 He goes belly up. No,

Speaker 1 he probably gets close to the jacuzzi thing in his big bathtub. He goes belly up and he opens a window, and then he just waits tonight.

Speaker 1 There it is. He just looks at he looks at an aerial view of Augusta.
Boom. Nuts.
That's all it takes for me to bite the name.

Speaker 1 All right. My other hot seat are Feral Hogs, which you mentioned, Hank.
Feral hogs are officially on the hot seat because the aforementioned, you know, there was tragedies on Sunday or Saturday.

Speaker 1 So there's been a bunch of Twitter gun debates. And someone brought up a very actually the

Speaker 1 like the most fair point that's ever been brought up, he was like, what about the 30 to 50 feral hogs that run in my backyard and terrorize my children? And I did a little research,

Speaker 1 talked to some people who hunt feral hogs. Apparently, they're a real problem.
They just run and just, they will kill you. They're mad.
They're insane. So we need to do something about the feral hogs.

Speaker 1 And feral hogs, I feel like, have been living under the radar. Now that the whole country's got on them, they're in trouble.

Speaker 1 I think they're definitely on the hot seat because, yeah, people didn't know about it. As somebody who's lived in Texas for a while, they are a real issue down there.

Speaker 1 Like you have people that set out explosives to just blow up feral holidays.

Speaker 1 I was watching a video called Black Hog Down today. Oh, really? That's crazy.
Yeah, you can hunt them from a helicopter.

Speaker 1 They passed a law in Texas like five years ago saying

Speaker 1 you can shoot them with a rifle from a helicopter. Do they do it in the 30s, but for hogs? Yeah, no, they do it at night and they just mow them down.
They just mow them all down.

Speaker 1 And they're like, I guess the meat's not even that good, so they just kill them. It depends depends on what kind of.
Yeah, sometimes it can be a little bit gamey. I've had wild boar ribs before.

Speaker 1 I like that idea, though, just making porn berries for pigs. That's the best.
Black hog down. I watched that video.
That's pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 And then I found out also they have dogs that hunt the hogs, dogs and hogs. And the dogs, like, pin the hogs, and then the guy comes and just slits its throat.

Speaker 1 The hog. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 I have heard of them hunting hogs with tannerite, which is just an explosive

Speaker 1 that you shoot. So you wait for all these hogs

Speaker 1 to get around a barrel like it's a doom video game, and you just shoot the barrel, and it just explodes and incinerates like 50 hogs. I watched 30 to 50 hogs.

Speaker 1 I watched a video where they did a double trap on hogs, on 60 hogs.

Speaker 1 They just put out a bunch of corn seed, and they all started eating it, and they dropped these two huge traps on them, and they went fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch the end because I'm a pussy and I didn't want to see a bunch of hogs get killed, even though they're feral.

Speaker 1 They're feral and they're dangerous, and they do a lot of destructive work to crops.

Speaker 1 What does feral mean? It means like wild. They run everywhere.
They got mites all over.

Speaker 1 PETA's got a big-time issue. What are they going to do with the feral hogs? They can't get close enough to him to save them.
Yeah, this is going to be...

Speaker 1 I actually would love to see a bunch of PETA people going down and being like, save our feral hogs, and they just run over them.

Speaker 1 I just think of the Hannibal, the shitty Hannibal movie when the hogs eat the guy. You got to be careful who you get into bed with as PETA.
And I feel like the hogs don't want your half-game.

Speaker 1 That's a non-stop. Listen, a wild hog, they have a lot of pride.

Speaker 1 I feel like a wild hog would rather die by getting shot with a rifle from a helicopter than have somebody from PETA come in and like pick it up and take it to safety.

Speaker 1 Verbal meme, but not a meme because no one, it's just a video that was shared last year. Wild hogs running, and it's Brett Bielma running after the Super Bowl.
Remember that video? That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. He was just trying to catch up to everyone.
How about this live look at a wild hog when you try to shoot it with a caliber rifle that's too small?

Speaker 1 And it's just a picture of Bobby Petrino wearing his Arkansas thing and neck phrase. Oh,

Speaker 1 the other fun fact I learned is a pig is a pig. A hog is when a pig pig gets to 120 pounds.
So I'm two hogs. And gets slaughtered.
Plus. You're two hogs? Yeah, two hogs plus.
All right, Mike.

Speaker 1 I'm a hog and a half, which almost sounds cooler to say. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 I'm a deuce hog. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's pretty cool. Deuce hog.
All right, so my cool throne is the Broncos because Paxton Lynch bashed them. Paxon Lynch is on the Seahawks now.
Did you know that? Yeah. Okay, so Pax and Lynch said,

Speaker 1 talking about the Seahawks, it feels closer, feels like a family. I bring my fiancé out here.
I bring my dad out here, and they even say it too. They feel so much more welcome around everybody.

Speaker 1 They're so good to them. They treat them so good.
They treat the players good.

Speaker 1 It's actually well, Paxton. It feels like part of a family.
It feels like everybody's close. That's because you haven't been cut yet, first of all.

Speaker 1 Before you go any further, I just want to say, like, I can't take anything that Paxton Lynch says seriously because he threw five interceptions in that bowl game when I bet on him.

Speaker 1 I just want to get that. He didn't actually

Speaker 1 look that back up before you got to it. I didn't know.
He didn't throw five interceptions. I looked that back up.
I definitely added a few interceptions to that.

Speaker 1 He threw a lot of interceptions and caused it to be a lot of fun. No, how about the fact that the fact that he had the weird

Speaker 1 sunglasses in a bowling alley on his draft night? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't just the weird sunglasses that bothered me. It was the combo of the weird sunglasses, the weird mustache, and the weird little

Speaker 1 beat poet goatee that he had. He looked like a 22-year-old

Speaker 1 high school drug dealer. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 He had a whole little swag out of his white jetta. I was going to say he looked like a guy that duct taped mids to the the underside of his bike seat and then drove his Huffy through middle school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from the cops. Yeah, I'm trying to keep it real low proof.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Paxton Lynch, now that I know that you're on the Seahawks, I got my eyes on you. That was a big mistake talking.
Yeah. Because now I got you're a feral hog in my book.

Speaker 1 Well, Pete Carroll definitely didn't know that Paxton was on the team. Everyone knows now.
Is he the first backup now on the Seahawks?

Speaker 1 I always think of that. Russell Wilson

Speaker 1 is still there. I know he's not.
Yeah. And also Tavaris Jackson.
Tavaris Jackson.

Speaker 1 Maybe Seneca Wallace, too. Tavaris Jackson, he was a hot backup there for whether

Speaker 1 wasn't a Hasselbeck. Didn't he spend a year as a backup? Yeah.
I mean, yeah, he was obviously there for a while, but yeah, then I think he had a year or two as a backup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you could pretty much, there's like a list of five guys that if they were, if you're like, that's a Seahawks backup, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Interesting that he goes from one city that's legalized marijuana to another. And he wears those glasses.

Speaker 1 Interesting. All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Because we were in Wisconsin, we thought we would do the Mount Rushmore of cheeses, a simple, easy one that I'm sure will get contentious with people online because everyone's got their favorite cheese.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 you are going first. I am.
So me. And then me.
No, I am. And then you go clockwise.
No.

Speaker 1 I mean, if we're keeping the same order as we always go, I go second now because you went first on Sunday, and then Hank went, and then I did. I thought we all always go clockwise.
No, you start.

Speaker 1 The way it goes is I start the week three, and then I go two, then I go one. You start the week one,

Speaker 1 three, two.

Speaker 1 I go snake with myself.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were sitting goofy.
We are sitting goofy.

Speaker 1 Oh, promise me. When I went to Barstool Gold, you'd get that joke.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, go.

Speaker 1 Keep it simple. American.

Speaker 1 Interestingly. I like

Speaker 1 growing up, I always have American slices in my house. Bicat saw me do this the other day.
Yes. Just go in the fridge.
You take a couple slices. It's good.
Just a couple of loose

Speaker 1 this is yesterday little loose cheese to the refrigerator well there was first of all there was no snacks there was nothing there was nothing else so that was like uh i went for snacks and then i was like fuck he came back with two slices of american cheese and a monster energy and i was like who are you

Speaker 1 i love it and then you love it you you uh you fold this the cheese into four slices so you get four little four little slices it's like that's what you break it in half that's a five course meal in jacksonville into fours you break the slice

Speaker 1 into fours. You take a slice, you fold that in half, and then you fold the half in half, and then you have four little slices of cheese.
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 You're like the Bobby Flet of American cheese. Way to dress it up.
Good presentation. Yeah, excellent.
Bam. Kick it off.
All right, I'll go with,

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with mozzarella because it's pizza cheese.

Speaker 1 It's versatile. Mozzarella.
Mozzarello. Mozzarella.
Mozzarello. I love how Giotta says it always.

Speaker 1 I just love how she says any Italian word. She's like, you're looking slice.
Well, no, no, they're tasteful. It's like a small, tasteful amount of cleavage, so it's not like I'm staring.

Speaker 1 It's just that I'm noticing, I'm appreciating, and I'm moving on. Muzzarelle.
Muzzarelle. Okay.
Okay, so my first...

Speaker 1 Yep, my first one. I'm going a classic, a real classic.
I'm going cheddar cheese. Yeah, it's good.
Cheddar cheese, very versatile, highly meltable. Works on sandwiches.

Speaker 1 Works as a snack. Are we going just straight cheddar? Or is there degrees of cheddar that can be used in this? I enjoy it.
No, I think I don't. You get all the cheddar? I think I get all the cheddar.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. I'm a a sharp cheddar.
I know. Sharp cheddar, if I have to choose, I like sharp cheddar better.
But I also like regular cheddar as well. And cheddar.

Speaker 1 My second choice, I'm going to go with

Speaker 1 Provolone. I love a good Provolone on like a turkey sandwich.
Okay. I think it's the best sandwich cheese.
It's the most versatile sandwich cheese. It's not a great cheese on its own.

Speaker 1 No, but it's a great sandwich cheese. Yeah, yeah, right.
Like the best sandwich. You don't do provolone and crackers.
You go cheddar and crackers. Correct.
Right.

Speaker 1 All right, I'll finish the pizza then. I'll go with Parmesan.
Also, you can't have pasta without a little Parmesan on it, sprinkled on.

Speaker 1 And it's a hard cheese. It has a cheese.
It's a hard cheese. It's a fucking tough cheese.
Hank wouldn't know about that. Real tough cheese.
All right, Hank. You got two here.

Speaker 1 All right. I will go with

Speaker 1 Pepperjack. Good pick.

Speaker 1 And melted. Just melted.
Wait, I don't know. Melted? I don't know if we can get you melted.
What do you mean? Okay. Because if you take, you take cheddar.

Speaker 1 That's every kind of cheese.

Speaker 1 But if you take cheddar cheese and it's like you put a hard cheddar cheese in a burger, not good. You take cheddar cheese and you melt it on a burger, delicious.

Speaker 1 Any type of cheese, if you melt it on top of something, makes it instantly. That was a back.
That was a hack.

Speaker 1 I'll allow it, but that was a hack. Just hot cheese.
Okay. Hot cheese.
What about the flaming cheese in Greek restaurants? Or flaming hot or cheetos.

Speaker 1 Takis. I got to pick.
I'll go with cream cheese. Good pick.
You need cream cheese on a bagel. I mean, you got to.
You got to have it. You like flavored flavored cream cheese? Oh, yeah.
Okay. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I get fucking spicy with it. Sometimes I'll do

Speaker 1 the locks. Sometimes I'll do a little fucking veggie.
Feel like I'm eating a salad with my two bagels because you have to have two.

Speaker 1 Because you order one bagel to eat right away and then the other is like an hour later. You have to.
You have to.

Speaker 1 That's how you get to deuce hogs. I've noticed that our company, I'm not going to, you know, like.
The worst bagels ever. We've gotten a lot less bagels lately.

Speaker 1 Bagel Fridays have gotten very, very minimal. It goes upstairs.
It's concerning. Do you know that? That's why? I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 I just know that I used to be able to come in and get one, and now it's like, I haven't got a bagel on a bagel Friday. Bagel Mondays on floor two, bagel Fridays on floor three.

Speaker 1 I walked up to the third floor for a meeting a couple Fridays ago, and I was like, what the fuck is this? And you know what? Bagels have been here the whole time?

Speaker 1 I walked around the corner because somebody tipped me off. They were like, all the bagel sandwiches are on floor three.
The normal bagels are down here.

Speaker 1 So I went up to get myself a sausage, egg, and cheese breakfast bagel, walk around the corner. I'm getting eyed by everybody.
on the secret salary.

Speaker 1 What does this guy know? What does this guy know?

Speaker 1 Worst bagel ever, too.

Speaker 1 And the worst thing.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they get plain.

Speaker 1 Our bagel order at Barstow, this is now very trivial. No, no, it's serious.

Speaker 1 But we need to say it because someone needs to listen and fucking change it. We get probably 50 bagels, like five everything, five sesame, 40 plain.

Speaker 1 It's cool.

Speaker 1 And you know what's weird is like the amount of plain cream cheese that we get is always excessive, too. Right.
There's always like two big pints left over. Correct.

Speaker 1 Looks like a lab sample from Pamela Anderson that just got stuck in the fridge. Can I say something real quick? We just have totally forgot the fact that there's ghosts in here.

Speaker 1 Not me. Aaron and I'm sitting over here.
I was going to say like Aaron and Henley have been in there looking for ghosts and I think they found them.

Speaker 1 They cat when we checked in the hotel was like, oh, we can do my room. And then right before it was like, oh, let's do your room, Hank.
And now I'm realizing like we're going to find ghosts.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to be able to do it. Just give me, we're not going to do the mic yet, but just give me a, how many ghosts do we have?

Speaker 4 She's

Speaker 1 we got something going on in the bed. Okay, all right, all right.
We'll get something on the bed. All right, oh, we're dealing with something on the bed.

Speaker 1 Hank, if that was Mike Greenberg, he would probably nut tonight. Hank, just go into the, go, do the, uh, tell Liam he's got to stay in this room.
Wait, what player fucked a ghost?

Speaker 1 I think Ronner Test. Ronner Test.
Good luck tonight, Hank, in Oklahoma, right? Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown.

Speaker 1 But Bobby Brown fucked ghosts, and he liked it because he was like, I went back for more. You stayed at the same hotel multiple times.

Speaker 1 All right. You have two.
Okay, my last two, I'm going to go with nacho cheese. Okay.
I love nacho cheese, and this might rub some people the wrong way. I love it the more unrealistic the cheese is.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like the more yellow, the like neon yellow color you get with stadium nachos.
I love that shit. Okay, you liked, yeah, like the radioactive goo.
Love that on nacho chips. Okay, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And then my last one. They never give you enough jalapenos.
That's true. They give you two jalapenos.
That's true.

Speaker 1 And sometimes they give you double cheese, and sometimes you just want one cheese, one salsa. Right.

Speaker 1 And my last one is going to be cheesecake oh i love cheesecake i've never i've never been a big cheesecake disgusting yeah love

Speaker 1 cheesecake is so good especially if you get like a like a peanut butter chocolate cheesecake something like that but that but that's not the cheese it's the peanut butter and chocolate it's still in the cheesecake i'd rather have a peanut butter and chocolate ice cream cake that well you know what cheesecakes are more versatile i'd say uh okay my last pick i'm gonna go with uh string cheese ew i mean string cheese is also

Speaker 1 i had that but melted cheese is a hack, but string cheese isn't. Well, no, once you did melted cheese, the doors open.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of cheeses here,

Speaker 1 and I was going to go with something else. Go with Gouda.
I was going to go. Well, we'll get to the honorable mentions, but once you did melted, it was game on.
All right.

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to say cheesecake until Hank said just melted. I actually have Jeremy Piven

Speaker 1 in old school. Cheese.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can I do queso because you did nacho cheese? I feel like that's different.

Speaker 1 Now this is getting

Speaker 1 like it's very similar. Only we would fuck up with Mount Rushmore cheese.
I think queso plays. I think it's different than nacho cheese.
I'm going to say that. Nacho cheese is, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it's different. Like, you're thinking of like Taco Bell, like the like what you get with nachos.
Queso is more like. It's like a little browner.

Speaker 1 No, no, so they're different, two different types of queso. You two vote.
I vote yes. There's white queso and then there's yellow queso.

Speaker 1 Nacho cheese is yellow queso. All right, I'm voting that it counts.
Bubba. White queso?

Speaker 1 Hank, you can get white queso. Okay.
Okay. White queso for Hank.
All right. I was going to go three cheese if it didn't count, which I think would probably also be a hack.
But what are the cheese?

Speaker 1 Like on tacos? Like the Mexican blend? Yeah, like

Speaker 1 soft tacos of taco bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three different kinds of cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a thing. I mean, that would have been a nice cheese.
You can buy it in a package.

Speaker 1 What are our thoughts on blue cheese? Probably the most contentious cheese out there. I used to hate it.
Now I love it. Yeah, I love it.
Now I love it.

Speaker 1 Blue cheese, though. I mean, obviously, you guys know I hate fucking hot wings.
It's like people only, like, it's like hot wings are so hot people can only eat it with blue cheese.

Speaker 1 So it becomes they order wings just to eat blue cheese. Blue cheese stinks.
It's like ketchup. I like a cheese that smells.
We're like, ooh, that's a cheese. You know what I love?

Speaker 1 What's really gotten to me in my old age is like a nice gorgonzola with a pear. Like that type of salad.

Speaker 1 Ricotta. You guys like ricotta?

Speaker 1 Ricotta's good. Ricotta.
Is there sweetness to it? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Oh, the little baby cheeses? Yeah, the wheels.
Yeah, those are awesome. Oh, just a wheel of cheese.
You don't like those? Nope. Okay.
Is that Gouda? I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 It's pretty Gouda. Feta? Feta's more of salad cheese.
Like, you're doing it to be like... Well, on a gyro.
Yeah, or yeah, a gyro. It works on a gyro.
The flaming cheese that they bring out.

Speaker 1 And they go, oh,

Speaker 1 that shit's awesome.

Speaker 1 I like brie.

Speaker 1 I like.

Speaker 1 I like, well, let's see. You already took Gouda.
I like my Brie like a little bit melted. You know what I'm saying? Like squeeze, run it on some toast.

Speaker 1 What other kinds of cheese we got? I think that cheeses, you could actually name all your kids after cheeses, and it would work. You got like Colby Jack, Pepper Jack, Brie, mozzarella.
Mozzarella.

Speaker 1 This is the

Speaker 1 shithead one, mozzarella.

Speaker 1 The Halamu cheese. That's the shit you can grill.
Halloumi. Halloumi.
That stuff is so good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that stuff is like cheating because I'll eat a whole thing of it and realize I'm a big cheese and cracker guy. I'll eat a whole wheel of cheese.

Speaker 1 No problem. Put it down and no problem.
Trey Wango wouldn't even be mad. No, he would not.
He'd be impressed. Exactly.
I shit in the fridge, too.

Speaker 1 What's the. I'm thinking of another.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. Maybe it's Gouda.
I don't know. Goat cheese is good, too.
Goat cheese. Yeah, no, that's man card.
No, goat cheese? You kidding me? That's chick cheese, bro. I disagree.

Speaker 1 That's a big time chick cheese. That's a hard disagree for me.
Goat cheese is delicious. You spread on some crackers.
What are the fuck? Get some triscuits? Maybe it is Gouda that I like.

Speaker 1 Smoked Gouda? Smoked Gouda. Smoked Gouda is real good.

Speaker 1 All right, anything else? Pepper Jack. Allison Breed.
Who is she?

Speaker 1 actress is she in anything she stuck a flute in her vagina in pan camp oh that's her oh cool now we're just doing oh i met your mother oh yeah that's right

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is the head coach of the Detroit Lions.
It's Matt Patricia. I was actually joking with PFT before that we usually do our grit week.

Speaker 1 How do you define grit? During grit week in the spring. But being around you, you're such a football guy.
I'm just going to start with that. How do you define grit?

Speaker 3 Grit. That's a good one.

Speaker 3 Football-wise, you know, I think we're probably, you know, talking about the toughness of the game, all that, you know, running the ball, stopping the run, all kind of everything that has to do with the trenches.

Speaker 3 You know, other than that, just, you know, there's probably a lot of good things out there that you got to kind of just handle and grind through from that ass.

Speaker 1 You got to understand something.

Speaker 1 Like, because it is, we're taping this at the end of July and we want football to be back so soon that you just saying, you know, just got to handle your business in the trenches like that, that got me excited.

Speaker 1 I had goosebumps. I had goosebumps.

Speaker 3 Kind of back in mode, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 Spring's a little bit different. There might be might be a different grit in the spring, right?

Speaker 1 Do you like fullbacks?

Speaker 3 Definitely. I mean,

Speaker 3 you got to get the fullback out there. You got to get them downhill and get the ball moving.
Hat on a hat football.

Speaker 1 Can you just say hat on a hat football? Absolutely.

Speaker 3 We got to get a hat on a hat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love it.
I love it. It takes me right back to the high school locker room.

Speaker 1 So I wanted to also start.

Speaker 3 Sure, probably with the Oklahoma drill and all the rest of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll just go right there.

Speaker 1 The pencil. Can we do that real quick, too? Sure.
I'm glad you're wearing it.

Speaker 3 It's kind of permanent.

Speaker 1 Do you ever take it? Like, do you shower with it? Do you sleep with it?

Speaker 3 There's a lot of times I forget it's there. Sometimes I'll have a pencil and then I'll have another pencil that I'm writing with, and we'll stick two of them in there.

Speaker 3 And I forgot the other one was there.

Speaker 1 Double-fisted, yeah, that's always a little bit of an issue.

Speaker 3 I think the most dangerous thing is that I've learned,

Speaker 3 you know, sometimes you're seeing friends or family or whatever it is, and you might hug it up a little bit, and you got to be real careful.

Speaker 1 So the right in the eye.

Speaker 1 It's dangerous. It's very dangerous.
So when people say like the pencil is a shtick or over the top, I mean, how long have you been rocking the pencil in the ear?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, it's really just a good writing utensil. I mean, I'm not really sure what we're talking about.
It's just other than the fact that it works.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 we've had the pencil for a long time, being an engineer kind of background, always use them. And honestly, it's something where I just take notes all the time.

Speaker 1 I noticed, by the way,

Speaker 1 you're doing such great football guy speak that you're saying we've had the pencil, just talking about yourself. We're in training camps.
You've had the pencil.

Speaker 3 No, it's in training camp mode right now, so you know how it is. You switch gears.

Speaker 1 It's the collective team. Like everything about this is team.
Is it always the same kind of pencil? By the way, this is only going to be pencil questions.

Speaker 1 Is it the same kind of pencil all the time? Do you have a go-to?

Speaker 3 We're definitely at Ticonderoga number two. I mean, that's our standard.

Speaker 1 Never deviate from that?

Speaker 3 You know, my kids have given me some pretty cool ones that I'll rock once in a while.

Speaker 1 A Spider-Man or a Spider-Man. No, you don't want to be caught on camera wearing the Spider-Man pencil.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well,

Speaker 3 not on game day.

Speaker 1 Can you tell when the graphite's a little too soft?

Speaker 3 We just, it's the same all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm more of a, I used to be a Barrel Eagle pencil fan, but they're too bendy.
They're too bendy. I need a pencil with like a little bit of softness.

Speaker 3 You got to be one of those guys that was into the pencil break game.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, pencil fighting.

Speaker 3 You were trying to get the right pencil and have the right pencil.

Speaker 1 Pintex were the best for those. You bite the edges down, turn it into like a shredder.
Got it. Yeah, we could charge tackles all day.
With his baseball

Speaker 1 pencil. I want to compliment you.
Make another comment about your appearance. You're rocking the hat forwards these days.
Is that like a professional? Is that like a cognizant thing?

Speaker 1 You're like, you know, I'm a head coach now. I'm going to turn the bill around.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, just kind of a hat, really.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the other thing is sometimes

Speaker 3 it's forwards, sometimes it's backwards, and we're going.

Speaker 1 Do you hear when, I mean, there was a whole thing last year about how you weren't dressing coach-like and maybe trying to be Belichick. Do you listen to that stuff?

Speaker 1 You're like, I'm literally just dressing how I've always dressed.

Speaker 3 I honestly probably wear the same exact thing every single day. I just got eight different versions of it.

Speaker 1 Right. Just like Steve Jobs.
Right. Just kind of, we just go to work.
Yeah, so you're not copying Belichick.

Speaker 1 You just, your brain has been warped by him for so many years that you just look exactly, you know, wear the same things over and over again.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think I kind of got my own luck.

Speaker 1 You do.

Speaker 1 You do. You do.
You do. So you're going into year two right now.

Speaker 1 Year one was probably like, that must have been a lot of stuff you find out on the job that you would not have been even prepared prepared to know going into it.

Speaker 1 What was like the biggest thing that you didn't know going into year one that now you're like making a change with for year two?

Speaker 3 I think

Speaker 3 you know, obviously there's a lot of things that you learn through the course of year one that you know you don't even anticipate as you're doing it.

Speaker 3 I'd say one of the more interesting things for me as I got here, walked out to the practice field, and I'm trying to visualize how the fields are going to be set up and I'm looking at the space and I kind of turned and I said to the grounds guy, I said,

Speaker 3 where are the goalposts? And there was no goalpost. And I was like, Do we have the sleeves? We're going to, we're going to.

Speaker 3 They're like, No, we just kind of roll the goalpost out and just kind of take them back out. And I was like, Okay, can we let's just start with goalposts?

Speaker 1 Let's start there. So, pretty important part.

Speaker 3 Right at the ground level. We're just trying to get it all right and you know, make sure we can go out there and practice.

Speaker 1 Some Bears fans would probably hope for fewer goal posts. Just get rid of them all together.
Get rid of them.

Speaker 1 Let's get to that because I am a Bears fan and I have said some things about the Lions and you. So, let's get out in the open.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Last year, after you guys lost against the Jets, I think I said you lost the locker room. Now, I say that because it just sounds cool when you're like, well, I think you lost the locker room.

Speaker 1 When you don't really have anything to say of substance in the media business, you can always say you lost the locker room. So did you ever lose locker room?

Speaker 3 Locker room's downstairs. It's in the same place.

Speaker 1 Hasn't moved.

Speaker 1 That's where the guys are doing all their stuff.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 1 the other one, I think you saw this clip.

Speaker 1 Mike Florio, when I was on with him on NBC Sports, he said,

Speaker 1 don't sleep on the Lions this year. And I said, you could sleep on the Lions every year and never wake up.

Speaker 3 That's, you know, that's good for us. We like that.

Speaker 1 Okay. A little motivation.

Speaker 1 We're good.

Speaker 3 We're,

Speaker 3 you know, the Bears, the Packers, the Vikings.

Speaker 3 Obviously, just, you know, we're trying to catch up.

Speaker 1 I think it's just fair that I got it out in the open. No, yeah.

Speaker 1 We like to do this because we don't want to walk out of this interview and then you see that we said something in the past. You're like, oh, oh, these guys are two-faced.
Yeah. They kiss my butt.

Speaker 1 So I had a couple of things that I said about you.

Speaker 1 And I don't think they're that bad. No.
The first one,

Speaker 1 you were all dressed up one day. I said, I think you were wearing the black bowling shirt or the Guillabara shirt.
That one's awesome. It is nice.
It's a nice shirt, but I said, I did say this.

Speaker 1 Matt Patricia looks like a hot topic manager going to a funeral. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 So I said that. And then at one point, I also said, oh, he uses a pencil on a laminated piece of paper.
What a total psychopath.

Speaker 1 And then I also accused you of faking the Hawaiian nuclear missile thing because you're a rocket scientist to throw Marcus Marriott off before you beat him in the playoffs. It was that day.

Speaker 1 So I just want to get that all in the open.

Speaker 1 Do you guys feel better? Water under the bridge.

Speaker 1 Do you feel better?

Speaker 3 I honestly, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're good. We're good.
Okay. All right.
So the rocket scientist part of your education.

Speaker 1 Do you think Elon Musk is a fraud?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 These are really in-depth questions. I'm just trying to make sure we got practice right for your clients.

Speaker 1 Probably haven't gotten that one.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 That's really unlike the ones that you guys usually give me when you're sneaking into buildings trying to come up with good questions to ask me. So I haven't gotten that one yet.

Speaker 3 Let me get back to you.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, look into it.

Speaker 1 Look into it.

Speaker 1 Could you put a rocket in the air right now? Like, do you have enough? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 There's no chance. If I give you all the raw materials and lock you in a room with food, water, toilet for six months, could you build a missile? Could we get to the moon? Yeah,

Speaker 3 I'm just trying to make sure that we can get a first down.

Speaker 1 We'll take it one step in a minute.

Speaker 1 Did you say getting first down is rocket science?

Speaker 3 It's not rocket science.

Speaker 1 There we go. It's football.
Yeah, it's football. Is there, like, I assume you keep in touch with some of the people that you went to school with.

Speaker 1 Is there an element where they're like, hey, man, you're wasting your time.

Speaker 1 You're an NFL coach. That's beneath you.

Speaker 1 You should be out here designing Boeing planes that don't crash.

Speaker 3 Pretty much definitely not. I don't know if you realize kind of, you lost me there for a second.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 You know what? When I switched, I got out of engineering, I left, tried to get into coaching. That's, I think, when I got the sideways looks a little bit of, you know, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 But, you know, we were

Speaker 1 so what was it about coaching that, like, it's obviously like a much, much different career path than the path that you could have gone down.

Speaker 1 What was it about coaching in particular that you were like, you know what, it's worth it for me to like follow my passion, maybe take a few steps backward in terms of pay, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, what was it that made you decide to go down that road? Yeah, good.

Speaker 3 Finally got a good question.

Speaker 1 Here we go. All right.

Speaker 3 Are we finally rolling on this thing?

Speaker 1 All right. Is this for real now?

Speaker 1 Good. Okay.
Perfect.

Speaker 3 You know what? That is a great question. I think, you know, for me, doing engineering and playing college football, obviously, at a very, you know, small school, but when the game's over, it's over.

Speaker 3 You know, there's not like you can't go out and play it with your buddies on Saturdays. We're not throwing the equipment on and having a game.
So,

Speaker 3 you know, the aspect of the game that I missed the most is the camaraderie and the relationships relationships and all that. So

Speaker 3 doing engineering, I remember just kind of that first fall that came around that was without football and the smell of the grass.

Speaker 3 And, you know, you get that camp feeling, you get a little bit of nervousness, a little bit of excitement, and you just want to go out there and go practice.

Speaker 3 And I just knew I had to be back around it. So I think at that moment, I really thought that,

Speaker 3 you know, I'd be a lot happier just trying to help people and coach and teach the game, whether it was high school, college, professional, whatever it was.

Speaker 3 You know, the relationships is what it's all about and building those relationships and holding on to them. So it's something you just can't really get anywhere other than the game of football.

Speaker 1 Good answer. That's a very good answer.

Speaker 1 And I imagine you can correct me if I'm wrong, but when you joined the Patriots coaching staff, you joined that, you were an offensive assistant at first, you're probably not doing a lot of that hands-on

Speaker 1 instructing all the time one-on-one with guys. From what I know about the organization, they start you out, you're doing data entry, you're logging, film, doing all this stuff.

Speaker 1 What was it about, like, even though it wasn't a glamorous job at the time, that made you say, hey, I want to stick around because I I know eventually like I'll get to that place where I'm working with guys.

Speaker 3 You know, I don't know if all of that is really accurate, you know, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 I think when you go into a staff and you know, you're part of the coaching staff, you're doing a lot of things.

Speaker 3 Are you doing a lot of those type of breakdowns and you know, data entry and you know, analytics part of it? Sure.

Speaker 3 But you're out in the field grinding every single day. You were coaching.
I was working with the offensive line at the time and

Speaker 3 just developing that relationship with those guys. And,

Speaker 3 you know, for me, it was just, again, it was another part of the path that that I wanted to go along to try to be a coach. And I was obviously at a great place and working for great people.

Speaker 3 So, you know, it was all

Speaker 3 really good. But, you know, you move on, we're here and we're trying to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 You're trying to develop coaches, develop players, put everything together from that atmospheric, from a culture, and build it from the ground up in a foundation. And that's the fun part, right?

Speaker 3 When you get to kind of just start over and see what you can do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you bring up a kind of a cool point. What's the difference between coaching players and coaching coaches?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a great question. And really, it's probably the,

Speaker 3 yeah, you're good.

Speaker 1 You're two for two in the zone. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So as long as we just go from where we started and, you know, just shut up from the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 The rocket is on its way to the moon.

Speaker 1 Now I screwed up my question by complimenting my own question too much.

Speaker 3 I'll say this. One of the, you know, the biggest things is...
Obviously developing players, but you do have to develop coaches. And I think as a head coach, you coach the entire team.

Speaker 3 I think as a coordinator, you spend a lot of time coaching the coaches. And the coaches coach the players.

Speaker 3 You're in the meeting rooms with them when you break out of the big sessions and go into those individual rooms and you're teaching fundamentals and techniques and all that. So

Speaker 3 you just, that's, look, it doesn't matter. It's all about trying to improve everybody and whatever their job is and that's important and certainly you're trying to get better yourself.

Speaker 1 Was that a hard transition

Speaker 1 going from a coordinator to head coach and being like, hey, listen, sometimes I can't just teach technique to a defensive lineman. I have to step back and be like, someone else got to do this.

Speaker 3 I would say it's just, it's an interesting transition. You know,

Speaker 3 there are so many things that tug you in a lot of different directions that you may not be kind of in, you know, the ground level as much as you want to. That's certainly interesting.

Speaker 3 You definitely experience a little bit of that when you kind of go from a position coach to a coordinator a little bit because just there's different responsibilities.

Speaker 1 So we've heard through the grapevine and also I think I've read stories where Belichick

Speaker 1 would help his assistants every year kind of give them maybe a little lesson on what it is like to be a head coach.

Speaker 1 Do you remember one of those years where he either gave you a task or gave you a lesson like, this is what's going to be different when you become a head coach. Sure.

Speaker 3 You know, Coach and I had a lot of long conversations, a lot of great conversations.

Speaker 3 He's a great man. He's a great friend and he did a lot for me and I'm really thankful for that.
So we'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 1 Is it weird? Oh, that was good, Dude. That was very Belichickian of you.
You're never going to reveal his secrets.

Speaker 1 Is it tough, though? Because I think the media is fascinated with Belichick's coaching tree. Sure.
And like you said, you're close friends with him. He's taught you a lot.

Speaker 1 But then to step outside of that shadow, do you feel that at all? Because

Speaker 1 it feels like every guy who leaves New England gets judged by Belichick's standards, rightfully or not.

Speaker 1 It definitely feels like that in the media.

Speaker 3 Sure. I mean, pretty much focused on just trying to get the Lions right.
So for me, it's just all about the Detroit Lions and this community, this fan base, this ownership, and this team.

Speaker 3 And really, what's awesome is the fans here are unbelievable.

Speaker 3 When I see them out and I get a chance to say hello, they're so excited.

Speaker 3 And it's one of those things that drives me back to work and make sure that I'm grinding away to try to do everything I can to get this right.

Speaker 1 You should get a picture of Detroit Don and Superfan. And just like every day when you get in your truck, I assume you drive a truck.

Speaker 1 You just look at that picture and you're like, it's for these guys. Do you know those guys?

Speaker 3 I mean, we've got to get some posters up.

Speaker 1 We'll get a rule in that aspect of it. I know those two guys.
Do you drive a truck? We were speculating that. You drove like Rice Overado?

Speaker 1 Pickup truck? You know you drive the ATV.

Speaker 1 What kind of car do you drive?

Speaker 3 You just crashed right there.

Speaker 1 You had two good ones. Yeah, yeah.
No, that was a good one, though. I think that was fair.

Speaker 3 That would be a Ford.

Speaker 1 If you saw it,

Speaker 1 you know? Yeah, we're in Detroit.

Speaker 1 Hand up. That was a big mistake, dude.
Dang. So what do you drive?

Speaker 1 A truck. F-250? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be awesome if you drove a Prius. You're like, sorry, guys.
It is what it is. That would be great.

Speaker 3 I really don't drive much. It pretty much sits out there and

Speaker 1 you signed Mike Daniels. Congratulations.
Thanks. He said in his, I think one of his first interviews, he said he signed here because of you specifically, he called you a genius.

Speaker 1 How many extra millions of dollars did you pay him to have him say that?

Speaker 3 You know, he's just, he's a great guy. You know, he's coming in ready to work, and we're excited to work with him.
So can't wait to get it going. Obviously, a guy that I have tremendous respect for.

Speaker 3 You know, he's a problem out there on the field, and I'm glad he's on our side.

Speaker 3 And somebody that I watch extensively, you know, when you watch players in the league, and you go through week in, week out, and game plan and evaluate,

Speaker 3 you tend to look at guys and say, wow, that would be a guy that we think we could do something with and work with. But we've got to see.
We'll get there.

Speaker 1 How cold is too cold to not wear shorts?

Speaker 3 That's a good question.

Speaker 3 The cold isn't really it. It's the wind.

Speaker 3 Cold doesn't bother me so much. The wind is, that's bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 like 10 degrees, but no wind? Shorts? I think we're good. Shorts.
Yeah, I think we're good.

Speaker 1 Do you worry at all about sometimes people say bigger guys, and is big guy to big guy, Bigger guys are the ones who wear shorts in the winter, and we kind of get a bad rap for it.

Speaker 3 Got it. I think, have you lost weight, though?

Speaker 1 I'm in the process. I've been on the diet for three days.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're doing good. I see that.

Speaker 1 I see that in you. It feels good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm just going to practice.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, just go to practice and do whatever's comfortable.

Speaker 3 I'm pretty much running to practice.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm like,

Speaker 3 let's go. Do I got my script? Let's get out there and let's okay.

Speaker 1 All right, so SeeKeek question: put in the promo code take you at $10 off. Go to a Lions game this year.
See Matt Patricia on the sidelines. See Geek promo code take.
I want to play a little game.

Speaker 1 We are at the Combine.

Speaker 1 What would you ask us? We're two stud.

Speaker 1 We're doing a tandem interview. It's kind of weird.
We're two stud prospects.

Speaker 1 What's the go-to question to figure out what we're made of?

Speaker 3 Sure. I think the first question I'm going to ask you is: what position do you play?

Speaker 1 I'm actually ATH athlete, so you can put me anywhere. Great.
How about yourself? I'm offensive weapon.

Speaker 3 Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 So we're pretty good.

Speaker 3 Box up. You guys can.

Speaker 1 Do you have any go-to, like

Speaker 1 maybe ones that you've retired? Because we don't want to do any ones that you use now,

Speaker 1 but any ones that you've used in the past that you're like, this is a good question that gets to

Speaker 1 kind of to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 Not like, are you a dog or a cat?

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, we're just trying to get basic information.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I feel like at that point,

Speaker 1 you probably know as much as you need to know about a player. You're just like like bring him in, make sure you can look him in the eye and that things are okay, that he doesn't try to fight you.

Speaker 3 They're there on a job interview that's pretty much really not that exciting.

Speaker 1 Do you love watching film? Yeah, absolutely. I could tell when you were talking about Mike Daniels a second ago that you got excited because you've seen him play on film.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Probably game planning against him, and now you're like, hell yeah, he gets to be on our side.

Speaker 1 Who is your favorite player to watch on film?

Speaker 3 My favorite player to watch on film.

Speaker 3 This is a great question. There you

Speaker 3 Jim Brown.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 3 That would definitely be, you know, Jim Otto. I was a big Jim Otto fan growing up.

Speaker 3 I thought it was pretty cool with the double zero.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 So just love the game. Love all of it.
There was a great,

Speaker 3 I think it was called Crunch Course back in the day in the 80s. There was a great video that the NFL did that I think NFL films, they do such a great job of capturing the game.

Speaker 3 I think that was one of the ones I remember distinctly that just you fell in love with with it and you fell in love with the game.

Speaker 1 What's the most amount of film you've watched in one sitting?

Speaker 3 I don't even think you can count that.

Speaker 1 We talking 12 hours more?

Speaker 3 I mean, there's usually something that comes up. You're not going to sit there 12 hours straight, but I mean, within a day, I mean, you're grinding.
We're watching tape.

Speaker 1 So when you're watching tape,

Speaker 1 what's your setup like? You got a nice monitor. Do you have an Excel spreadsheet pulled up?

Speaker 1 What's your dock look like?

Speaker 3 These are a lot of hot topic questions right here.

Speaker 1 I mean, we love it. This is the nitty-gritty like

Speaker 1 smiling for real.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would say in my office, I think I have probably four monitors, two televisions that I watch film off of.

Speaker 3 You constantly just kind of have everything up and you're rolling.

Speaker 1 Do you think at some point the NFL will do like 3D film where you put on the glasses?

Speaker 3 We might have a little bit of that going.

Speaker 1 Do you dream and film?

Speaker 3 I don't even know if I dream anymore. I think I just kind of blink and then I wake up and I just get going.

Speaker 1 That's a football guy answer. That's a big-time football guy answer.

Speaker 1 Were you concerned when there were the reports that Hard Knox was going to be here this year?

Speaker 3 Again, I was just really trying to focus on the spring at that point, I think.

Speaker 1 It was my dog that started that rumor, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd like to apologize if that was. It's interesting how

Speaker 3 your dog spawned a lot of text messages to my phone.

Speaker 3 You know, there's a direct correlation there.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 He was acting on a hot tip. He's been disciplined.

Speaker 1 It won't happen again.

Speaker 1 I suspended him from Twitter for, I think, like a week, which is actually seven weeks in dog years.

Speaker 1 he's been off for a while.

Speaker 1 So you were a defensive coordinator for the Patriots, Tom Brady. Would you say the way to beat Tom Brady is to pressure the quarterback?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, you know, we had a good practice today.
We got to a lot of early down situations here.

Speaker 3 We're going to get into some third down stuff.

Speaker 1 You have to love, though. Come on.
I love whenever someone would be like back in the, it still happens, but like the key to beating the Patriots is sack the quarterback.

Speaker 1 I think the key to beating every team is to sack the quarterback.

Speaker 3 I think the key key to beating a team is to score.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were going to do that. I know you were going to do that.
Score more points than the opponent. He's a math guy.
Yep, that is. That is.
There's the math guy shining through.

Speaker 1 What's the one thing that if you're at a practice, at the end of the day, you're like, today was a good practice as opposed to like a bad practice? Because a lot of times

Speaker 1 if I've gone to a training camp, it kind of all looks the same to me. But what are those details that you zero in on that make the difference?

Speaker 3 Okay, you've circled back. You've redeemed yourself.
You're back on a good professional. There you go.
It's a good job.

Speaker 3 I would say for me,

Speaker 3 as a coach, as I watch all of it, I want to see, obviously, the pace, the tempo, the execution, the communication. I want to see it all operating and working at a high level.

Speaker 3 We look at the game and we look at practice. There's just certain things that

Speaker 3 we can't live with that are going to come up in the game if they happen that we'll lose.

Speaker 3 So trying to eliminate those mistakes and just be able to go out and practice and put stuff on film that we can then take into the classroom and teach off of, that's the most important thing.

Speaker 3 And when we kind of walk off the field feeling like, all right, we can really learn from today, I think that's when you feel the best.

Speaker 3 I think the one thing I was told a while ago, and it's probably true, is when you're watching practice, I think when it's done, it's never as bad and it's never as good.

Speaker 3 So, you know, when you go back and look at the tape, you know, you probably maybe it was a bad practice. There's probably a lot more good in there than you thought.

Speaker 3 And, you know, if you thought it was a good practice, there's probably some things in there you got to get fixed. Yeah.
Just try to keep it even.

Speaker 1 When we interviewed Doug Marone, he said he sometimes closes his eyes during training camp and listens to

Speaker 1 the pads and the helmets cracking. What's your favorite football sound? Yeah,

Speaker 3 that's a great kind of

Speaker 3 moment. I distinctly remember

Speaker 3 early training camps in my career.

Speaker 3 There's different points of camp, like rookies or early training camp, whatever it is. And then when the full team got back out there, the sound of the game, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 It's just everything that kind of just brings you back into that moment.

Speaker 3 And when you get the pads, you know, and they're cracking out there and, you know, guys are communicating, yelling and screaming and getting, you know, everything worked up.

Speaker 3 That's fun. That's fired up.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 So, you can probably tell the difference between a good practice and a bad practice by a lot of the sound because you were talking about tempo.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know if you can tell if it's good or bad, but you can definitely tell the difference. 100%.

Speaker 3 If you're trying to have a physical practice and you don't hear it,

Speaker 3 it's probably because they're not being physical, and that's something you got to work on.

Speaker 1 What does everyone wants to be a lion until it's time to do lion shit mean to you?

Speaker 3 That's a good one right there.

Speaker 3 It's a good saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is a good thing. Did you you come up with that?

Speaker 3 It's a great saying. I don't think I can take credit for that at all.
Not at all. So,

Speaker 3 yeah, we're just trying to come to work every day.

Speaker 1 I told this energy because I feel like a mouse in a maze, and every now and then I just run right into a wall.

Speaker 1 You give me an answer that's just a football guy answer that I know I can't get in. I got to turn around.
You keep going. Like, where am I going here?

Speaker 1 You're shocking yourself again and again, trying to get the cheese. One of these times is going to learn.
It's okay. No, we're learning.
It's fun. I'm having a great time.
Here's an easier question.

Speaker 1 Do lions concern themselves with the opinions of sheep?

Speaker 3 That's another great quote.

Speaker 3 I'm going to mess this up.

Speaker 1 LeBron James actually came up with that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't think it was LeBron James.

Speaker 1 Good one. Do they? Do they concern themselves?

Speaker 3 You're going to have to go ask a

Speaker 1 lion. I am asking a lion.

Speaker 1 You're the head coach of the lions.

Speaker 1 Okay, no. Because I had a motivational idea for you guys in the facility.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 At the entrance, there should be like a stuffed sheep, and then when you walk past it, nobody's allowed to look at it. No icon because we don't concern ourselves with that.

Speaker 1 It's like some coaches have the football on the wall that you hit every time.

Speaker 1 You just don't look at the sheep. That's good.
It'll work down the line somehow. I don't know.
What about a lion in a cage as well? Kind of really getting up there.

Speaker 3 We're definitely going down a path here.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Last question.
Last question.

Speaker 1 How was our posture in this interview?

Speaker 3 Posture was okay. Okay.
Yep. Some slouching, definitely some leg crossing.

Speaker 3 That was good. Yep.
Fidgeting. Dropped a notepad.
The sunglasses inside. You know, it's your thing.
It's like my pencil at school.

Speaker 1 You wear shorts.

Speaker 3 So I get it, but

Speaker 3 just a little bit more, maybe, you know, on attention would be good.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll tell you what, I dropped the notepad, but I didn't pick it up because I felt like we were having such a good report.
You were telling me how

Speaker 1 to raise it. You were unbreakable.

Speaker 3 You just kind of went right through that and, you know, 100% didn't let that break your stride.

Speaker 1 All right. Last, last question for me.
How long would two guys like us last in Matt Patricia's coaching staff?

Speaker 3 Yes, that is a good one.

Speaker 1 How long have you been in the building? Like 35 minutes.

Speaker 3 Probably.

Speaker 1 We're about done. Yeah, we're about.

Speaker 1 Can we take some more of those Diet Cokes? Perhaps these on the way out. How many of you guys got it? Give me the way already.
We have a whole bag eat. We've just taken everything.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 We're good at ordering dinner. We could do that.
You'd be like, hey, anyone want to see anything?

Speaker 3 That happens to be one of my favorite things. So, I mean, you guys, there's value there.

Speaker 1 Right. There's value.

Speaker 3 So you just have that value to the team.

Speaker 1 Even when you're like, do your job, we're like, our job is to order the pizza.

Speaker 3 There you go. Done.
That's what we got to get.

Speaker 1 My last, last question.

Speaker 1 There was that famous picture of last year's practice when you guys were outside in the snow, which I enjoyed.

Speaker 1 You like practicing outside more than you practice inside, even if you're playing an inside game.

Speaker 1 Is there like something more that you can teach outside?

Speaker 1 Is the practice, does it sink in more if you're outdoors as opposed to inside?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, mean, I think I just love being outside. Most of the time in my world, it's 70 and fluorescent, so I don't really get out there that much unless we're in practice.

Speaker 3 And I think, you know, we can go out there and practice safely. There's a lot that goes into it about being on the grass as opposed to the turf.

Speaker 3 And, you know, certainly at, I think that point in the year, we still had two outdoor games that definitely could have been pretty severe weather.

Speaker 3 So just took a good opportunity to practice in it before we got in it for the first time and didn't know how to respond. But I think we've moved on from all that.

Speaker 3 I think we're good just trying to practice.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
What's your record this year? Guaranteed.

Speaker 3 Guaranteed right now is 0-0. So, yeah, that's where we are.

Speaker 1 Trying to go 1-0.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm trying to win tomorrow.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to win the rest of this interview. Yeah, you're good.
You're good.

Speaker 1 I think I just did. I think we're good.
Okay. You can take that.
Heal up, by the way. Get better every day.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. Do better with...

Speaker 1 What did you hurt?

Speaker 3 We have a foot injury.

Speaker 1 A lower body injury. I like it.
Be real.

Speaker 1 Don't let your opponents know what you have. There's no weakness.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Something got you to the doctor begrudgingly, I assume.

Speaker 3 Definitely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no way you went there because you wanted to, and then you came out with a cast and you don't know.

Speaker 3 You woke up a couple hours later and it was a cast and you know, just can't put any weight.

Speaker 1 I'm shocked that you didn't go with the light color cast and have everyone sign it. You seem like that type of guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think a couple players were trying to sign it as I was rolling through in the hallway, so I had to kind of go a little faster so they couldn't, you know, autograph it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All All right, coach, thank you so much. This has been a ton of fun.
Seriously,

Speaker 1 I could do this forever because running into the wall is very, very funny. Yeah.
I don't know why reporters complain about it, honestly. Yeah.
It's fun. Yeah.
Yeah. Just

Speaker 1 firing questions until you get one good one, and then the other ones are just going to suck, and you're going to give us the road answers.

Speaker 1 We'll wear you down eventually and see if we can buy you.

Speaker 3 But hopefully you guys can come back and maybe it's not the start of Training Camp. We'll get a little bit more time.
It's a little bit less lax.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Gotcha.
Okay. Fair, fair.
For the Super Bowl. You'll come back when you guys are in the Super Bowl.
Like you guaranteed early.

Speaker 1 Yeah. In the Super Bowl? Yeah.
I think we're done. All right.
Thanks, coach. Appreciate it.
All right.

Speaker 1 That interview with Matt Patricia was brought to you by Figs. Shout out Mike Greenberg.
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Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Mike. Okay, let's get to some segments.
First up, we have a Trouble in Paradise Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 He is putting his house up for sale, which is always sign number one. So he might be the new coach of Alabama.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's it is

Speaker 1 all we need is his

Speaker 1 tail number for his private job. Anytime any celebrity gets involved in selling their house, you have to make that, you have to connect that dot just a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, John Gruden was looking at houses in Knoxville last year. That's true.
Yeah, you always got to throw that out there. Are you just a little bit worried that this is last year? It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 He just restructured his contract. And he has like a thousand houses.
Him and Giselle. Yeah, good point.
He's just probably moving to all the real estate he owns and everybody else's brain.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Including both of yours. Got him, got him.
So you're not.

Speaker 1 No, you, you, I wish, like, one day I'll make a compilation of every single time you guys have been like, here's a story about Tom Brady. Hank nervous.
Hank nervous. Well, I mean, Tom Brady, like

Speaker 1 should we not talk about

Speaker 1 show? Should we talk about it? But

Speaker 1 you guys want him to regress more? Listen, he wants to be cold. I don't know.

Speaker 1 If busted coverage gets on the beat, you got to notice.

Speaker 1 Busted coverage, by the way, the preeminent real estate celebrity site. That and, yeah, like somebody that they're maybe possibly dating or dated in college.

Speaker 1 Go get the bikini picture. Okay, you're not nervous.
Of course. His house, I saw the pictures are insane.
Now, were we able to look at the inside of the house?

Speaker 1 I feel like all the pictures were

Speaker 1 the inside of the guest house, which was nicer than any other house I've ever been.

Speaker 1 So that was just the guest house. So you're not nervous at all? 0% nervous.
0%.

Speaker 1 All right. Good to know.
I just think it's interesting that he's selling his house. That's a weird process to go through as you're in the middle of a season.
That's stressful.

Speaker 1 About to get started with a season. He's going to have to do like, oh, hey, Tom, on Thursday, we have some clients.
Can you clean up the house? Yeah. He's going to get that email.

Speaker 1 Tom, you left out all your weird avocados. Can you put them away? Tom, there's a lot of flies in the kitchen.
Can you make sure you put down the seat on all the toilets?

Speaker 1 Because that's a real estate trick. That kind of stuff.
He's definitely got a urinal in that house. Tom Brady has urinal? Probably.
Dude, shout out it.

Speaker 1 And you're the one that's saying that you can't hit a wall. Shout out, Coach Dana.
Urinal in his house, member? Yep. By the way, I'm going to put this on the AWLs to remind us.

Speaker 1 Week two of college football, Friday night on ESPN, Houston versus Washington State. We got to get Coach Dana and Mike Leach on before that.
Okay. So remind us because we're going to forget on Monday.

Speaker 1 Remind us. Yeah.
Yeah. The week before.
It's coming up. We'll get them both on.
Also, I'd like to make a quick announcement here. This is a verbal notes app.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I'm saying this out loud in the notes app from PFT Commenter.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry Allison Bree did not put a flute into her pussy. That Allison Bree was a different actress, it looks like.

Speaker 1 Not how I met you. So sorry about that.
Okay. All right.
Well, we can. I regret to inform you I was incorrect.
So we fix it.

Speaker 1 We always fix our mistakes. Next up.
I will work non-stop to be better at determining which celebrities have made jokes about their pussies. Next up, we have a way to stay relevant baseball.

Speaker 1 It's Players Weekend, and they have the new jerseys, and last year they were fun, weird colors, nicknames. They put the nicknames on the back.
This year,

Speaker 1 all black and white.

Speaker 1 Straight black and white.

Speaker 1 I actually think this is a genius move by baseball. They're heinous, the jerseys,

Speaker 1 but genius move to get everyone to talk about them. Yeah, genius move also, it's probably the most fixable mistake of all time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So like they can act like they're being the Adam Silver now, where people can get mad about them and they can instantly be like, okay, here's our new version.

Speaker 1 And they just add in like colors on the letters. Yeah, like, yeah.
So they can save it. They're just piping.
Yeah. They can

Speaker 1 save it real quick.

Speaker 1 There's an element that I kind of like. Oh, color.

Speaker 1 That's what you like. Color rush.
I like anything that's all one color. And sometimes colors on baseball jerseys just look like the devil's Instagram files.

Speaker 1 The problem I have with it is that if you don't have black or white in your team colors, it's just weird to wear a completely different color than your team colors. That part is weird to me.

Speaker 1 They should make the white socks just get dressed up in like bright pink. Yeah, just something totally different.
But you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 If you're the Oakland A's and you're wearing all white jerseys, like what, or all black jerseys, they might have the the piping, like I said, in the hat, but like, all black jerseys, like, what's going on here?

Speaker 1 Or the Rays are wearing all black jerseys. You don't have that anywhere in your colors.
Yeah, I agree. I think that it is kind of gross to look at at first.

Speaker 1 They look like alternate jerseys that you can only find to buy in, like, San Francisco. Right.
Or, like, Oakland.

Speaker 1 I picture that as, like, I've seen so many 49ers jerseys that are just all blacked out. Right.
That that's what I imagine.

Speaker 1 And now they will get some buzz when they take the field on Players Weekend and everyone's like, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 This is real so good good on you baseball staying relevant also shout out to Max Scherzer. You know how they're letting you put your like whatever name you want on the back of your jersey.

Speaker 1 What do you put? He's going as brown eye. Nice.
Yeah. That's got pretty solid.
Fucked up to his blue eye. Yeah, but brown eye.
Yeah, that is good.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah.
No, I get it. Talking about anuses.
Right in the dugout. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 All right. We have a even a blind pig finds an acorn.
New segment.

Speaker 1 The Redskins are doing something correct. Somehow.
Somehow, some way. Well, no, I know how because it makes Dan Snyder much.
They're going to figure out a way to screw it up pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they're offering live in-game betting

Speaker 1 on their first preseason game. But it's not like betting in the traditional sense where you can put up 50 bucks and then get 50 bucks back or whatever instantly.

Speaker 1 It's like whoever picks the most plays correctly during this quarter will get $1,000.

Speaker 1 Okay. But

Speaker 1 this is so perfectly Dan Snyder, is it not? That the world's finally collided where the only

Speaker 1 move right now is to embrace gambling, and it also will make Dan Snyder even richer than he is so he can finally have one correct move. But he's so dumb that he's going to screw it up.

Speaker 1 He probably actually believes that because his team is named the Redskins, he's allowed to operate a casino. Definitely.
Definitely.

Speaker 1 I think he believes that, like, in the court of federal law, he'll be fine in the long term. Yes, yes, he absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up with guys on ghouls. Aaron, you want to come in here and let us know what we found? So we have

Speaker 1 the guys and girls from Supernatural Investigation Crew, SIC in the Shadows. They've been searching for ghosts this entire time.

Speaker 1 You guys found something.

Speaker 1 So is it going off right now?

Speaker 1 This is Anley talking.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so some of it is kind of triggering right now on both corners of the bed and also the center of the bed. We've also got a little bit of activity going there.

Speaker 1 When you say triggering, what does that mean? Are these snowflakes? Are they protesting online?

Speaker 1 Protesting or presence?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 No, so it's actually equipment that we have. So one of it is an electroscope.
It's done by Paranologies, and basically it measures static energy and picks up on high levels of it.

Speaker 6 So unless you're physically touching this thing or moving your hand right above it,

Speaker 6 it shouldn't be picking up anything. It shouldn't be lighting up.

Speaker 1 What were the questions you were asking? You were silently asking questions.

Speaker 6 Yes. So I was asking questions.
questions like if there was anybody here, if there's anybody that wants to communicate, if anybody is going to be staying in this room later.

Speaker 1 and it popped up yeah when did they say

Speaker 1 yes that's when you asked is anybody going to be staying in this room later were they like definitely yeah yeah it was like a very solid green

Speaker 1 was it a guy's voice or a girl's voice well i didn't hear the voice but good luck let us know damn i mean we're we're joking but like we're i'm actually serious yeah so we probably have the same ghost now in your so a little backstory you guys have been doing this for how long um i've been doing it probably for a good couple of years now Aaron, how long have you been doing it?

Speaker 4 About 20 for me.

Speaker 1 Aaron's been doing it for 20. Now, what is like the wildest ghost that you've found?

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Because I believe...

Speaker 6 There's been some really, really crazy ones. There's been, oh, the legal abortion doctor ghost.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 This is a very dark territory.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the ghost was it.

Speaker 1 Was an abortion doctor?

Speaker 6 So he was like a regular medical practitioner by day, but by night he was giving all of his mistresses abortions.

Speaker 1 Whoa,

Speaker 1 that's so now we're talking about like fetus ghosts.

Speaker 6 No, no, we didn't pick up on fetus ghosts.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 but it was his ghost.

Speaker 4 But I think a lot of it's buried in the backyard of the house where it was his office.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. So

Speaker 1 can I so can I hold one of these instruments? So this is the instrument that I ask questions?

Speaker 4 Green and red.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, it's lighting green and red. Well, because you asked, is this the instrument that I asked you? Oh, yeah, you're right.
You're right. Good call.
good call. Off to a good start.

Speaker 1 Is there a ghost in here? Wait, what? I gotta hold it.

Speaker 4 Okay. It shouldn't be lighting up that solid that long.

Speaker 1 It's okay, so you're here. Dude, you're here.

Speaker 1 Wait, it's right.

Speaker 1 It's right here. Look at it.
I'm going like this. It's off.
Hey, ghost. He's literally sitting next to me.
Bubba, so you can point it right above me. No, but he's sitting.
No, Bubba, move away.

Speaker 1 He's sitting right next to me. He's sitting right here.
The ghost is right here. That's a good question.
What's your name? Oh, Oh, wait, no, you can't. You have to do yes or no.

Speaker 1 Is LeBron James the GOAT?

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Is Michael Jordan the GOAT?

Speaker 1 Oh, Kobe. Yeah, no, it was Michael Jordan right there.
It was Michael Jordan. It was Michael Jordan.
He thought Kobe should have been higher on that list.

Speaker 1 Is PFT 5'9?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Solid. Brutal.
Shout out to the GOAT. Ghosts can't see height, though, right? They can feel, they can feel everything.
They feel my energy. Okay, so.
I got 5'9 energy, even if I don't have 5'9.

Speaker 1 Alright, so this instrument tells us where the ghosts are. Then you also have this.
Yeah. Explain this to the people who are listening.

Speaker 1 Some people are watching, but most people are here.

Speaker 4 In the tables, the 360, it's a lot like this right here, but it'll actually go with movement around. So we were in a jail in Indiana one time, and we put it between two cells.

Speaker 4 And we asked the spirit, because you go from one cell to the other, and it literally lit half a horseshoe around where it looked like it walked out one cell right into the other cell.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. All right.

Speaker 4 This thing is a little bit, it might be a little harder to hear.

Speaker 4 It's kind of annoying in a way.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 So it reverses radio frequencies, so like AM, FM stations

Speaker 4 really fast, scans them at a really fast rate. And you're not supposed to really understand anything.
So if you pick up any words on it, that could be someone trying to communicate with you.

Speaker 6 Especially if it's anything like a curse word because of FCC regulations.

Speaker 1 Oh, right. Oh, so this is finding ghosts.

Speaker 1 Ghosts, you can cuss on this podcast. Fuck, fuck.

Speaker 1 This This is crazy. I like it.
Here, I'm going to mic it up.

Speaker 1 So, what will what should we be looking for if the ghosts show up?

Speaker 1 Will it start flipping out?

Speaker 6 Well, it depends. This location is known for a lot of static play.

Speaker 1 That's a ghost talking.

Speaker 1 That's a ghost talking.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Yo, I believe this shit so much. This man is crazy.

Speaker 1 Is there anybody in this hotel?

Speaker 1 Is there a ghost here?

Speaker 1 Are you gonna mess with Hank later in his room while he sleeps?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I heard something there.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 there's a female.

Speaker 1 At least you got a chick, Hank.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 This is crazy. Wait, make sure you get this side of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Bubba can get that.

Speaker 1 The polter comp.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a ghost talking.

Speaker 4 What's your name?

Speaker 1 I mean, these are answers. I heard Allison.

Speaker 1 There's someone trying to talk to us.

Speaker 1 This is wild.

Speaker 4 So normally on stuff like this, it's kind of hard to hear with the naked ear right off the bat. Yeah.
So on this, you'll record and you'll play back a lot of times.

Speaker 4 And then when you play it back, and listen to the audio back, you can normally hear it pretty clear.

Speaker 1 So you've been able to do that where you've been able to hear a ghost play.

Speaker 4 You'll hear you like, oh, I think it said Mike or something.

Speaker 1 Can you hear it back? Yeah, we can turn it off. We can turn it off now.
Okay. That, that I mean that thing was talking I heard several words that thing was talking

Speaker 4 so so you play that back and you can hear like people actually speaking yeah so right off the bat like you said it's really really hard to decipher it comes so quickly so fast so we'll take it home we'll slow it down we'll listen with some really great headphones and we'll try and decipher it a little bit clearer what we'll normally do on location is we'll take a device like this or a spirit box and we'll we'll put them on headphones and blindfold people and we'll sit them in a chair and so now they can't hear you or can't see you.

Speaker 4 And we'll ask questions. And then the person with the headphones is listening to this white noise in the radio.
And the minute they hear a voice or anything, they spit out whatever it's said.

Speaker 4 And a lot of times they'll answer the questions we're asking.

Speaker 1 Talking through

Speaker 4 they don't know where we're asking questions.

Speaker 1 Through the body.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 Now, can you tell the difference between like a happy, benevolent ghost and like an angry ghost?

Speaker 1 How can you tell that? What do we have here? Throw the voice.

Speaker 4 I mean, you'll get some real deep voices sometimes. That's normally when the box goes off we're like okay we're gonna stuff away for a minute.

Speaker 1 So is this ghost in your expert opinion would you say it sounds like it's friendly? I mean from what I can hear is I'd say pretty yeah. It sounds like there's at least two or three.

Speaker 4 I heard at least two women's voices and at least one male.

Speaker 1 Nice. Hardy Hank.
Hank are you nervous? It's twins Hank. Your dream.
I'm just gonna

Speaker 1 we're gonna leave and I'm just gonna pretend like this never happened. Okay, so you do know

Speaker 1 that I'm gonna have to come and listen to this back probably. And you believe that there are ghosts here.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
100% ghosts. So

Speaker 1 when you go somewhere,

Speaker 1 great this compared to your other places you've gone. Like this is a pretty active place or medium it is.

Speaker 6 With some of the reports, especially from people that are self-claimed skeptics, I'd say yeah, this is a very active place. There's a lot of history here.

Speaker 1 Is there any recommendation of what you can do? Like if Hank encounters the spirit tonight or something unusual happens while he's trying to sleep, is there a way he can tell the spirit like I'm okay?

Speaker 1 I don't fear you. Please don't hurt me.
Be firm.

Speaker 4 Always be firm.

Speaker 1 Hank has trouble with that sometimes.

Speaker 4 I mean, be firm with them and say, get the heck out of my room. I mean, that's what you could say.
And they're supposed to respect you. So, it doesn't always happen that way.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure where you're going to get holy water at like midnight, but you can give it a shot.

Speaker 1 I'm a minister.

Speaker 1 I'm a minister.

Speaker 1 I will bless him.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Okay, Hank.
Tell you what, I'm going to bless

Speaker 1 you blessing. This coffee.
I don't want it. I now consecrate this coffee water.
So, what are the names of Hank Lockwood? Last question. Do we have any questions from the people?

Speaker 1 All right, so ask a couple questions from the people.

Speaker 1 Sup, PMT boys, could you ask this ghost hunting fellow if he's ever been attacked by, slash, possessed by, slash interacted with a ghost or their most chilling interaction with a paranormal being?

Speaker 6 Can we have like another slash in that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are our listeners.

Speaker 6 So I don't think I've ever been necessarily like attacked by anything. I've gotten some very negative energy thrown on me that's been very draining.

Speaker 1 You think I've been attacked?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'd call that an attack.

Speaker 1 Wait, I didn't. That sounds like what, say what that is.

Speaker 4 Well, we were at Hillsbar Dam in, what is it, Chattanooga? Chattanooga, Tennessee. Tennessee.
And it's just an old dam right on the Tennessee River, and energy is crazy there.

Speaker 4 And there's tunnels that you have to get into to get into this dam. It's really weird.

Speaker 1 It's like a maze.

Speaker 4 She was in one of the tunnels doing the headphone experiment in the blindfold.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 It looks like some dark stuff that started coming through.

Speaker 4 It's on our YouTube page.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right,

Speaker 1 check out their YouTube page, Supernatural Investigation Crew, S-I-C, in the Shadows. Next question, Hank.
Do ghosts sleep? Like, why do they only come out at certain times of the day?

Speaker 1 What else could they be doing?

Speaker 6 So, there's a lot of theories. So, we've actually seen activity during the day.
Sometimes we'll have more activity at certain locations during the day than we would at night.

Speaker 6 It kind of depends on the energy of the building. I don't think they sleep.
I don't think they sleep. I think they do run off of energy, though.

Speaker 6 So, if there's not a lot of people around or not a lot going on, you're not as likely to see as frequent hauntings.

Speaker 4 Rabid ghosts. Yeah, a lot of your common hauntings you get is residual energy.
So it's something like you do the same thing every single day. Like you get up at eight o'clock, shower, go to work.

Speaker 4 So this ghost, after it's gone, is still doing the same exact thing.

Speaker 4 So it's getting up, it's going, it's taking a shower, it's going to work. So it's like residual.

Speaker 4 So that's when you'll get it, like sometimes in hot spots at certain times in the morning or at night or something like that, because they're still doing the same exact thing. Because

Speaker 4 they're probably stuck.

Speaker 1 They don't know they're dead yet they're stuck and i've wondered about that like if ghosts if when you're not around them if they just like kind of fade away for a while and then the the energy of having other people around kind of brings them back up and

Speaker 6 we'll see that and then we'll also see like overload so if there's too many people too much we'll see kind of less activity it's like they shy away from it yeah so if you live in a house and a ghost like comes out at 11 p.m every night like that ghost probably jerking off

Speaker 1 that's what he did 11 p.m when he was alive and it could be i'm just saying like, that's the thing you got to think about now.

Speaker 6 That's a very specific time to name.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm very specific. Right before bedtime.

Speaker 1 That's when HBO goes and C17.

Speaker 4 Even like Dream Honda.

Speaker 1 Ghost reminds me of cat house. They remind me a lot about

Speaker 1 cats. Like cats, they'll be around if their one person is around, but if you have a party, they'll go hide in their little corner and the room nobody goes to.
Okay. All right.
Next question, Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, why do only human ghosts haunt the living? Why do we not see animal ghosts haunt their murderers?

Speaker 6 So, we do see animal ghosts, though. Yeah, there's a theater that we go to every year in Waukkin, Illinois, called the Genesee Theater, and one of their biggest hauntings is a dog.

Speaker 1 No way, that's spooky.

Speaker 4 So, it's an old 1900s theater, and back in the day, they used to have show dogs. So, during the old shows, the vaudeville and stuff, they have dogs in them.
They keep them chained up downstairs.

Speaker 4 So, and they still have like hooks where the dogs would be chained up down there.

Speaker 4 So, under the stage, you'll hear barking and everything else.

Speaker 1 Wow, that sucks. That's sad.
That's really sad. Wait, could a fish, hypothetically, like if somebody accidentally murdered a fish or whatever, could a fish have a ghost?

Speaker 4 Could be. Just hope you didn't flush it down the toilet.

Speaker 1 No, we didn't. We buried it in Canton, Ohio.
Yeah, Canton, Ohio. Yeah.
And then put it in our freezer. Yeah.
Then flushed it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We flushed a couple of them.

Speaker 1 We're not fish killers. Just want to set out on the record.

Speaker 1 We've had many fish, but we're not fish killers. What is the difference between ghost ghouls and spirits?

Speaker 6 Good question.

Speaker 6 So, do you want to?

Speaker 1 I'll let you kill that one.

Speaker 6 Okay. So, ghouls are typically going to be a lot more malevolent energy, something a lot more negative.
You can also kind of put that into like the string of something that has

Speaker 6 the characteristics of being demonic, but not necessarily within that range. It could have been human at one point, but now it's more poltergeisty, if that's a word.

Speaker 1 That's totally a word now.

Speaker 6 Anyways, ghosts are going to be human spirits.

Speaker 6 So, spirits and ghosts are kind of an interchangeable term, I'd say.

Speaker 6 But they're going to be something that's like a residual haunting.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay.
Okay. So watch out for ghouls.
Yes. Okay.
All right. Last one.
Are there good hauntings or are they always bad? Or is it ultimately all about the perspective of the haunted?

Speaker 1 There's good ones. There's definitely good ones.
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of things.

Speaker 4 I think one of my biggest, one of my biggest interactions I've ever had with a spirit was my grandfather. So

Speaker 4 I think a lot of them are lost loved ones that might be hanging around, guardian angels type thing, is what I think a lot of the spirits are.

Speaker 6 Hauntings just has like a negative connotation to the term.

Speaker 4 When you die, you want to go where you're at most happy. I mean, that's why you have a lot of energy at like theaters and just happy places because that's where you're happy when you're living.

Speaker 4 Why aren't you gonna be happy when you're dead? There,

Speaker 4 so I mean, a lot of people, I mean, you'll get a lot of happy stuff.

Speaker 4 Um, now, if you're ghost adventures, everything's negative in demons, and they send Aaron running everywhere, but right, I mean, that's just that like what Hollywood did to sharks, they're doing to ghosts, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 4 yeah, in a way. I mean, they feed off the demon aspect of things.
And so

Speaker 4 a lot of hauntings that we see, we try to deal with are happy.

Speaker 1 They're happy where they are. They're content where they are.

Speaker 4 They're either in their home or somewhere. And they're like, just leave us alone.

Speaker 1 We're chill. Okay.
So to sum up, check them out. They are the Supernatural Investigation Crew, S-I-C, in the Shadows, Aaron and Anley.

Speaker 1 If you are in the Midwest, they're located in Northeast Illinois, but if you're in the Midwest, you think you got a ghost, they'll come out.

Speaker 1 And there are definitely ghosts in this room, right?

Speaker 6 Confirmed. I'd say yes.

Speaker 1 Confirmed. And thank you guys.
This was awesome. Appreciate it.
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