Lions HC Matt Patricia, Ghost Hunting In Milwaukee, Hard Knocks & Mt Rushmore Of Cheese

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Lions coach Matt Patricia. We are live in Milwaukee, the Pfister Hotel.
We have Ghost Hunters. They...
I mean, that was gold. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to recreate that all right wait should I start again I might I might wait till we get into the show you know what just run all this this is a great cold open yeah yeah you heard pft's real joke there nailed it oh you didn't know you probably heard over my mic though you said oh no wait wait we'll do it.
We'll run it back? No, you probably heard over my mic, though. You didn't hear it?

Oh, no, wait, wait.

We'll run it back.

Okay, but if what happens is people actually heard it.

Then, hey, scouts on it.

Pretend like it's the first time.

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Today is Wednesday, August 7th, and we are live on the road from the Fister Hotel.

That's right.

Fister.

I barely even know her.

Nailed it.

We're about to ghost hunt.

We're going to do that.

We're going to get the we're going to introduce the ghost hunters at hot seat.

Cool throne.

Now, just... Fister.
I barely even know her. Nailed it.
We're about to ghost hunt. We're going to do that.

We're going to introduce the ghost

hunters at Hot Seat Cool Throne.

Just back up for a second because the Fister Hotel

that is widely known

as a very haunted hotel here in

Milwaukee. There are a lot of Major League Baseball players

that are afraid to stay here because of the ghosts.

So we brought in two ghost hunters to

see if there were any ghosts in Hank's room. We'll get

to them later. Spoiler alert.
Hank is going to have a very interesting night sleeping tonight. Spooky.
Okay. So before we do all of that, and we also have Mount Rushmore cheeses and Matt Patricia pack show for you.
But before we do all of that, Hard Knocks. Yes.
Hard Knocks is back. Derek Carr is awkward as fuck.
That was my big takeaway. He seemed like he was reading off a script.
I'll take that back. He wasn't reading off a script.
He just knew the cameras were on him the whole time. So he was like trying his best.
He was like a robot trying to impersonate a quarterback. He was.
It's very clear that the message the Raiders are trying to send is Derek Carr is our quarterback. And we're going to give him a lot of air time.
And we're going to show how tough he is, including bullying his two young kids to fight in the living room while they're playing basketball. That felt scripted.
Well, if you're a car, you have to be like, don't fight against each other. Because if you cry, your mascara is going to run.
Yes, right. So it started with that.
It also started with Antonio Brown in Miami and his feet, his big feet having a big problem. So those were the two, like, you know, like Derek Carr's.
It's going to be Derek Carr's hard knocks. He's the quarterback.
He's tough. And Antonio Brown's feet, we don't know.
And I forgot to mention, great opening. Do you think Gruden wrote that, like, beforehand? I don't want dreams, man.
I want nightmares. He said, I'm not in the dream business.
I want you guys to make someone else's life a nightmare. To crush their dreams.
And then he's like, we're not playing for the Gator Bowl, the Peach Bowl, the Tax Slayer Bowl. We're playing for the Super Bowl.
Okay, guys. I liked it.
And it was very misleading how intense that episode started compared to what happened during the episode.

Yes.

It's very obvious that John Gruden is not going to let them show anything that's remotely interesting.

Well, we just have to hope for next week with Sean McVay trying to out Gruden John Gruden.

Just saying the exact same lines.

They're going to get into a music volume off where they're going to just keep raising the volume on their music until all their eardrums explode.

The one thing that Gruden does that is always fascinating because Gruden, you're right.

He's not going to show anything really for the camera other than the big barbecue at

the end where he's like, hey, family first.

I'm a coach and I love your family.

Gruden, though, the camera's just catching his face in a perma squint.

I could watch that all day.

He's just standing there relaxed but looking so angry it's his resting heartbeat and he wants to kill someone i can't figure out with john gruden because he always has one eye that's like kind of cocked i can't determine if it's the same eye each time or if he switches it up from time to time that was one thing i noticed the other thing i noticed about him uh never worn sunblock in his life no he is anti so he thinks he's tougher than the sun yes the fucking sun and i believe that he is he's got an he he wears so little sunblock that he has an ear tan so behind his ear is like super white because he always stands directly facing into the sun to prove that he's tougher oh by the way the way, speaking of the sun, Derek Carr, you did oil up.

You oiled up your arms.

You pretended that it was sunscreen lotion. You dropped the dad line, which I think one of your kids is like six.

So you can't be like, I'm a dad now.

You've been a dad for a while.

When do you get to stop using I'm a dad?

No.

LeBron still does.

I'm a dad now.

I think you can't use after your kid's like one.

Okay, I'll make a note of that.

No, no, no. No, no, no.
I got you. You guys are understanding what I'm saying.
Mark the tape. I'm a dad now, I think you can't use after your kid's like one.
Okay, I'll make a note of that. No, no, no.

You guys are understanding what I'm saying.

I'm a dad now

is different than I'm a dad. By the way, how

pissed off do you think LeBron is that he can't have

training camp in Napa Valley?

He's got to be over the moon.

Sheesh.

Also, Mayock made a brief appearance.

I need a little bit more Mayock. You got

to have me taste some of these stars a little bit because you're right. The only real glimpse into Gruden we got was at the beginning and then when he had the barbecue, which him and Mark Davis probably had to fight tooth and nail to figure out if Guy Fieri was going to cook the P.F.
Chang's menu or the Hooters menu. Mike, Mark Davis being a white sunglass guy is something I don't think I knew, but I knew.
You knew it. You knew it.
You knew it. You felt it.
I don't think I've ever seen a picture with him with his white sunglasses, but you felt it in your bones. He's a white sunglasses, Oakley's maybe, like the pair that you buy for 15 bucks at a gas station.
And he's like, check out these sweet sunglasses I got. They're pretty awesome.
directly to pacific sun it's he he is he's just a beautiful specimen of a man um other notes i wrote down uh your guy what was his name ronald ollie ronald ollie big time like they tried what who's beeping i think that's bubba oh okay i think it's you you tried to just wow that was a quick blame it's something that was a hundred percent you i was i was hoping that everybody would on text that everybody would look at bubba while i normally switched my phone off um so ronald ollie who because you know how annoying that it like someone's sitting at work being like what did my phone just go off oh we have no sirens yes i have to color it up a little bit for everybody ronald ollie that was the quickest like we're gonna try to get you to feel bad for this guy even though he got cut i think that's the fastest cut in hard knocks history he was cut 25 minutes in he also had an unbelievable line when he said talking about last chance you saying you need to experience it to experience it that's a fact it's a fact you can't experience stand experience it. The thing with him, too, is that was what he was like in the beginning of Last Chance 2, except then he got it figured out and turned around.
So I was like, this is the real-life version of it. Also, Jonathan Abrams, they kind of brought him out a little bit at the beginning.
Here's the thing. I don't know how annoying he's going to be.
I liked him when he was interacting with John Gruden a little bit. At the beginning when Gruden was like, don't hit.
I like the swag. But then when you sit him across from somebody like Derek Carr that doesn't know how to handle him.
Derek Carr just, he's short. I think he's a robot, actually.
I think Derek Carr is a robot. He doesn't know how to deal with personality.
That is true. But the Gruden, Jonathan Abram situation situation that told me everything i know about jonathan abram because gruden was being serious and jonathan abram kept on doing that thing like we're joking right we're joking he doesn't know how to read a room he's a he is a quintessential guy who like not a bad guy seems like he's going to be a hell of a football player wants to just tackle tackle tackle but he does not know how to read a room.
He's the guy who will keep making jokes until John Gruden's like, dude, I'm not joking. Stop blowing people up in padless practice.
Right, right. And he just couldn't figure it out.
He blew up the lead blocker and then went after Luke Wilson. Our boy.
Our boy, Luke, getting another chance. He had a nice line, though.

He was like, wait till we put the pads on, dude.

I'm going to come at you.

So shout out, Luke.

Way to go.

Didn't know you were on the team.

He popped up in all three of us.

By the way, we watched it in AWL's house.

So thank you to Allie.

Thank you to Allie.

It was very nice.

And her boyfriend.

And her boyfriend and her dog, Jordy the Corgi.

And her cat.

So it was an awesome setup.

But I think all three of us were like, Luke, there he is.

I'm going to goy the Corgi. And her cat.
So it was an awesome setup. But I think all three of us were like, Luke, there he is.
Oh, Hank's going to double check because I think it might be Kelly. Okay.
I think it's out. We'll double check that.
I think it's out. So what else did you have from? Need more John Madden.
Yeah. John Madden was the highlight.
When he was like, this is what football is. Well, football guys coming out here hitting the seven football guy blocking sled.
Yeah. Everyone needs a sled in their backyard.
He said every former football player needs to have a blocking sled in their backyard when they retire. Yes.
Yes. Oh, the other two notes I took down.
Guy Fieri, electric, as always. Of course.
His son's name, Ryder. You didn't know that? I think I knew that, but I forgot it because then i looked it up and his other son's name is hunter yeah it's like dude you just you couldn't be more guy fieri would it surprise you to know that guy fieri's son plays the drums no no no the other one skateboards yeah yeah i think they both yes the cool ass kids um and then speaking of kids antonio brown i forgot about this part starting the entire hard knocks episode basically trying to uh erase the fact that he went crazy for three months and every teammate of his in pittsburgh hated him by showing us how cute his kids are they are very you know what it worked it absolutely worked when he's like you ready to go to napa and the kid was like yeah okay yeah and then the roethlisberger line like you're way to go that Napa? And the kid was like, yeah.
Okay. And then the Roethlisberger line, like, you're way to go.
That is, I tip my cap to you, Antonio Brown. Everyone's like, damn, he's got cute kids.
And they think that Derek Carr's name is Derek Carter, which I might start calling him Derek Carter too. Way better quarterback.
Yeah, way, way. Derek Carter's number one, Nathan Peterman number two, Derek Carr number three.
Also, shout out Mike Glennon's long neck. Made a quick appearance.
That was really nice to see him, wasn't he? I don't think we saw Mike Glennon's face. We just saw the back of his neck.
You know what neck that is when you see it. Yep.
Also, Vontaze Burfik is on the team. Yes.
That was pretty cool to see. Him and Richie Incognito are not going to like each other.
A lot of personalities. So overall, what would you say? Grade for the first episode.
How am I grading this? On a scale of five balls? Yeah, five balls. Two balls.
Yeah, I'd give it like two and a half balls because I thought it was good, but the expectations have... Like, I'm expecting five balls all around.
Of course. And it just didn't have the pop.
I needed a fight. I needed maybe a little less Jonathan Abram and a little less awkward Derek Carr.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bubba, you okay? What did you give it on the balls? I don't know. Like two balls.
Two balls. Good score.
So, hard knocks. Honestly, this is where it's like we've always kind of differentiated this, where I'm like I've just kind of always been like a Patriots fan and cared less about the outside world of football hard knocks has never really done it for me but that's yeah like the first season i watched was the bucks was bad yeah texans was bad yep the browns one was good awesome but not like you the way i don't know i just like i think i get excited about it because you guys get me excited about it and then i watch i'm like you're coming from a're coming from a position of privilege.
Right. And it's also hard knocks is, you know, we did the whole thing on Thursday, which we probably we admitted like when they do the Hall of Fame game, we get excited.
And then two minutes in like this sucks. Hard knocks feels like the official start of football season because I'm thinking and it always fucks my brain up because they're taping it.
But it's also happening right now. No, that's what I'm saying.
When you see something happen to the Raiders, you always think to yourself, I can't wait to see this on Hard Knocks. Right, right.
And the Rams and Raiders are probably practicing. They probably practiced today.
That's weird. And we saw McVay and Gruden and it's like, how does this work? Also, McVay's beard looks a lot better.
Did you notice that? Well, he's obviously been negged enough by us he's a growing boy it's gonna be great watching the two of them just talk in the same exact language back and forth exactly they're not it's like a dog staring in the mirror barking at itself yeah um all right other news before we get to hot sequel throne uh Hank you showed us this the ultimate stay woke they're trying to keep rich Paul down is that pretty much it? so the NCAA has created a new rule this isn't my stay woke by the way no it's LeBron's stay woke they created a new rule that any agent that wants to talk to a player before they declare for the draft I think has to have a bachelor's degree Rich Paul does not Rich Paul is disrupt is disrupting the business. He's basically making everyone nervous.
As much as it pains me to say this, I love it. Because I love people who make the establishment super nervous.
The NCAA has been just milking everyone forever. Having a disruptor in there, and when I say disruptor, I obviously mean D-S-R-P-T-R.
No vowels. No vowels.
Is great for everyone because NCAA will have to change if Rich Paul keeps disrupting. People are also saying it's the NBA's involved because they hate how Rich Paul and LeBron have taken someone.
Oh, this league. Yeah, like how last year they controlled Anthony Davis, controlled his own destiny.
How the trade deadlines and that stuff doesn't matter. So there's a chance that it's the NBA and NCAA.
In cahoots. I think that you're probably right on this.
That's what LeBron's thinking. It's not a bad idea overall to have your agent and your right-hand man have an education, a four-year education.
I think that's probably an advisable thing in most circumstances. But I don't think they needed to go ahead and make a rule out of it.
Right. It's very clear that I think they're going after LeBron.
As LeBron's saying, I'm very glad that I have you guys on my team now supporting me. Well, no, we're on Team Rich Paul.
I think the NBA should suspend LeBron. We're on Clutch.
No, no, no. We're on Team Rich Paul, not Clutch.
Just Rich Paul as a person. But Clutch would know you.
No, no, you no no no team anti-establishment yeah right oh rich paul he's an agent of anyone out there fighting the power you're right we are a badass podcast yeah we are the bad boys podcasting uh it how much of a power move must it feel like if you're rich paul and you go to sleep tonight you're like they had to make a rule because I'm so fucking good at my job. That has to feel awesome.
Like, as much as it sucks for Rich Paul, I actually think it's a great, like, at the end of the day, you were probably saying this is so sweet that I'm so damn good and I control and they're so scared of me. They had to make a rule so that I have to go to University of Phoenix next year.
Or have, like, he's probably gonna have Kyle Kuzma take a bunch of classes. Trump University.
Yeah. You can get a degree from wherever you want, right? He needs to do that.
Wait, does it say accredited university? We don't know. He should make his own college.
Do honorary degrees count? Yeah. Because the University of Akron would definitely give him one, right? Yeah, absolutely.
LeBron could get that done. I promise.
Ohio State would do it it for him i would not be surprised if he made his own college at this point great just gave himself a degree great that'd be awesome also the name rich paul people forget just how cool that is your name is rich like paul you're fucking loaded man not richard rich yeah yes i mean that's a guy that i would trust in my money yeah absolutely um all right let's get to some hot seat cool throne before we do that we need to mention uh two things one pmt uh gold is coming out tomorrow so go to barstoolgold.com slash pmt don brown and we answer all the gold members questions and the second thing we need to mention is that we are officially ghost hunting for the rest of this podcast so we have the guys and girls from supernatural investigation crew aaron and an lee s-i-c in the shadows you can find them on twitter youtube facebook everywhere they have come up from northern illinois and they are ghost hunting the fister hotel with us can i just say that i'm sure they they're going to find something. And you can probably see it on the cameras right now, like stuff that we're not able to perceive with our eyes.
I walked in this hotel. I got the chills immediately.
She's getting hits. We already got it.
We already got hits. Is it Anlie? Anlie and Aaron.
Anlie and Aaron. They're getting hits right now in the other room.
I'm telling you, I walked into the lobby. I got chills.
I saw the big painting behind the front desk. I'm pretty sure that was my face in the painting, like an old version of me.
So I found out about the Pfister Hotel. I've stayed here a couple times before, but a friend of mine who works with the Cubs told me that Starling Castro refused to stay here.
And then there's been some articles written. People, I think, in Milwaukee, the Pfister hotel very well, pretty popular in this area with, uh, with all the baseball players.
They always will stay here, but they always report that they don't want to stay here. No more.
They're like, send us down the street. Okay.
Else. That's Aaron, by the way.
So what hits have we gotten so far? We have a thing called an electroscope and I'll light up and measure static readings. So it'll light up right in green.
And it's kind of chaos. yes or no questions on it too.
And Anneli's in the other room in the bedroom area and she's been asking some silent questions and it's been lighting up to her questions. What kind of silent questions are we talking about? Anneli, what are you asking? We'll actually save it for the end.
We'll save it for the end. But we just know that we are now podcasting with ghosts.
Yeah, that's right. This is a group podcast.
And you can follow along and watch the ghosts on Barstool Gold. Okay, all right, Aaron.
We're going to talk to him at the end. We're going to do guys on ghouls.
They're going to continue ghost hunting while we do this the rest of the show. But we're going to get to Hot Seat, Cool Throne.
Hank, why don't you start? My hot seat is Kanye West. Oh.
There was a – I'm sure you guys read it. A top 50 rappers of all time list that came out.
Was Drake on there? It was corny ass. Who tweeted this? Someone tweeted it, but it was Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast.
He like just went into it. Shout out.
Shout out Mal. Now our friend.
We got to do a crossover. Got to do a crossover.
Great, great show. Joe Budden podcast.
He just like just ripped into the whole thing on his podcast,

and then that sparked a debate amongst Twitter and the rest of the world,

which then basically caused every single DJ, notable DJ,

that does a show in New York, Los Angeles,

everyone had to come out with their own list.

Did Dante?

Which then sparked out more debate.

I don't know if Dante did.

I have a question, Hank.

That's a good question.

I would love to see Dante's list. Point of order? Yes.
What's the difference between a DJ and an MC? I think an MC is on like... Bar Mitzvahs.
Yeah. Okay.
A DJ is like a radio. They sing dirty songs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do the electric slide as their closer.
Okay. I'm just making this up, and I'm pretty sure MC is live, and DJ is like, you hear them on the radio.
All right. so Kanye wasn't on the list.
Wasn't on the list. It was just a random person who tweeted this, which I love.
This is so peak 2019 that you can just tweet a list and then have everyone get mad about it. It's just a random person.
What about John Cena? He was not on the list either. What about Will Smith? Will Smith was on the list either.
I would have Will Smith number one. Fuck.
And The Rock number two. He was pretty good on that Fuji song.
Yes. And then John Cena.
It would be majority just professional wrestlers. What about Kobe Bryant? Nope.
Damn. No.
A lot of misses. What about me and Big Cat? Yeah, it was an account.
It was an account. No, so this is what it was.
It was an account with 400 followers that said Joe Bunn is the number three rapper of all time. Awesome.
I love it. People got so mad.
And people got mad. We got to do that.
We got to create like a burner account and just do lists constantly. Lists to make people mad.
Yeah, just constant lists. I mean, hey, we made that 40 under 40 list, which was essentially just a retweet list.
Please retweet. Yes, please do retweet it.
We dropped the spot. one to two.
I might have my facts. I'm looking this up now.
It wasn't Joe Budden that... It was Joe Budden being three on the list that caused it to go crazy because people were like, how the fuck is Joe Budden three? And he did a podcast? Well, then he talked about it, obviously.
Being like, thanks. Yeah.
Okay. I love that.
Just like targeting one specific celebrity and getting it going that way. You know what we should do? We should do a ranking of the best female singers of the last 20 years.
SVP is like the top mention in here. Rock Kim has 11 names before this.
Go SVP. Fuck out of here.
He ate the trash? Yeah. Shit.
Come on, Scott. You're a boy.
Rock Kim. The easiest way, best female singers of the last 20 years, and just don't include Beyonce.
Yeah. And just make Carly Rae Jepsen number one.
Yeah, immediately goes viral. Dude, this guy is like Chuck D.
Everyone was responding. Everyone ate the trash.
Oh, my God. That's fantastic.
Hot seat to all these people for eating the trash. Wale.
Because then it's like all the other rappers that weren't on it were like, Wale came out. I was like, I'm on the list.
I'm not going to be cocky, but I'm a top 50 rapper of all time. What about Marky Mark? Was he on there? Nope.
Damn it. This list stunk.
It does. Vanilla Ice? We need to make our own of top 50 rappers that didn't make the top 50 rappers list.
And then my cool throne is picnic tables. Oh, okay.
Yeah. So another thing that I'm sure you guys have seen.
Basically, the internet the past two days has been the pigs which i'm hoping you guys can explain to me i have that as well i'm sure pft does too hogs yeah i don't get that at all oh yeah it's a problem you know what the internet has been like a waste wrapping lists and this fucking stupid meme with the picnic tables where you just put anything in a picnic table and say which one would you want to sit at well i think this is it was peak mid-August. To get into the psyche of the internet here for a second, I think what has happened is when there is a mass shooting and a tragic event and everyone doesn't really know how to react online because that's really sad, they just figure out the dumbest things we can then jump to to talk about.
So it's like, we can't go from mass like oh who's an elite quarterback we got to go mass shootings to a picnic table meme so it's like kind of a palate cleanser to getting back to the other stupid things it's really a metaphor for sitting down at the picnic table of ideas yes to let them develop and have intelligent discourse with each other i think you're right begin i think that there's something to be said about like if you're going through a weird time like uh in terms of the national serious things serious discussion you long for something stupid to argue about and then everyone you have to have something to get into a fight with somebody about that doesn't that kind of like displaces the real fight that you want to have correct so it's essentially like oh this is something we can all talk about and make fun of that isn't serious to to get us off the serious stuff and then we will get to like the medium serious stuff that everyone takes too seriously and gets mad about online which is just a regular wednesday the other thing was that there was the all decades list for the 2010s and kobe was 13 on it which i honestly think is like fair well but he got hurt no he was 13. Oh, okay.
Yeah. 13.
Yeah. I would have to look at it.
Kobe stands being like, he should be first team. It's Kobe, but it's like 2010.
He had a couple of good years, right? Yeah. Yeah.
He was, he won a title. Right.
In 2010 or 11. But if you're looking at the whole decade, his body of work over the 2010s is not like probably.
I guess he broke all his records. So that counts.
Like at the end of his career. And his Achilles too.
Yeah, and his Achilles. And he dropped like 70 points against the team that wasn't trying in that last game.
That was an awesome moment. Shout out Kobe.
Shout out Kobe. That's it, right? That's it.
PFT. Okay, my hot seat is the NFL 100 logo.
I'm already sick of it. I'm just squatting on this take.
I think everyone else is going to get sick of it too. They've overdone it.
It's not that cool of a logo to begin with, but they've put it everywhere so far this year, and it's going to be in every single game on every single field. Oh, yeah.
They're going to have special patches on the jerseys. Chris Collinsworth is probably going to be wearing a lapel pin at some point with the 100 logo on it.
I'm already sick of it, and we've just had the Hall of Fame game. Okay.
So my blood is going to be boiling over the course of this year. The problem is the 50 logo and the 75 logo was awesome.
The 75, that was a diamond, right? Yeah, the 1994 I'm looking at right now. That's a sick logo.
Yep. 100, they didn't put any thought into it.
It looks like, you know what? John Elway's Vortex. It looks a little bit like the Vortex.
It also looks a little bit like an expansion league football logo. Yes.
Yes. You're absolutely right.
I already forgot the name of the expansion league that folded this spring. AAF.
AAF. I was going to say AFL.
That would have worked. Yeah.
It looks like the AAF logo. Yes.
If it was designed by somebody with a head wound. Okay.
That's a good hot seat. And my cool throne is Michael Crabtree.
So Michael Crabtree decided not to sign with the Arizona Cardinals yesterday. They brought him in.
They got into negotiations with him. And he said, thanks, but no thanks.
I think I'm worth more. It would have been a terrible move for him because he would have had to play against a kid to leave twice and so we were what that chain we were yeah the dunn chain was about to hang over his neck and a kid to live was about to swipe it off and spike it on the ground well he probably was like you guys are going to pay me three million dollars but i'm going to lose at least five hundred thousand dollars in chains he should have had like an escalator in his contract if i get my chain snatched right you'll replace it for me.
That would have been great to watch. Come on, Michael Crabtree.
The guy moves the chains. Alright, is that it? That's it.
I got two hot seats. The first one is PFT.
We're taping this on August 6th and you have yet to wish Mike Greenberg a happy birthday. It was in my notes.
Oh, okay. So when were you going to do it? It was in my notes.
I was going to do it. Fun fact, we're recording this.
True. After we recorded the show.
So you were going to say it in the beginning. My note for the beginning of the show.
My bad. All right, so pretend you didn't hear this.
I'll do it now. Okay, do it now.
All right, do it now. Cool throne, second cool throne, Mike Greenberg.
It's his birthday. He talked about it the entire show on Get Up this morning, which I tuned in in a while.
How old? How old is Mike? I don't know. That's a good question.
Not a day over 45, I would say. Yeah, he seems like a guy who will just be forever in his 40s.
Yeah, the note that I had, I was going to do all my ad reads in my Mike Greenberg voice. Okay, well, you will.
So you'll do them at the end of the Patricia interview. Yes, you'll have that to look forward to.
Mike Greenberg, he is the promo code in our microphone. He is the wind beneath our wings.
The man who needs a fork and knife to eat a grape. Well, he also eats grapes in three bites.
I think you're confusing that. With pizzas.
Pizzas and wings, fork and a knife. And gloves.
The grape, yeah. He jerks off with gloves.
Okay, sandwiches, gloves. Mike Greenberg does not jerk off.
Mike Greenberg gets an erection and waits for God to take care of it. He goes belly up.
He probably gets close to the jacuzzi thing in his big bathtub. He goes belly up and he opens a window.
Yeah. And then he just waits to none.
There it is. He just looks at an aerial view of Augusta.
Boom. That's all it takes for your mic to name it, man.
All right. My other hot seat are feral hogs, which you mentioned, Hank.
Feral hogs are officially on the hot seat because the aforementioned, you know, there was tragedies on Sunday or Saturday. So there's been a bunch of Twitter gun debates.
And someone brought up a very – actually, the most fair point that's ever been brought up, he was like, what about the 30 to 50 feral hogs that run in my backyard and terrorize my children? And I did a little research, talked to some people who hunt feral hogs. Apparently, they're a real problem.
They just run and just... They will kill you.
They're mad. mad they're insane so we need to do something about the feral hogs and feral hogs i feel like have been living under the radar now that the whole country's got on them they're in trouble i think they're definitely on the hot seat because yeah people didn't know about it as somebody who's lived in texas for a while they are a real issue down there yeah like you have that set out explosives that just blow up feral hogs.
I was watching a video called Black Hog Down today. It was crazy.
You can hunt them from a helicopter. They passed a law in Texas five years ago saying you can shoot them with a rifle from a helicopter.
They do it at night and they just mow them down. They just mow them all down.
I like i guess the meat's not even that good so they just kill them it depends on what kind of yeah sometimes it can be a little bit gamey i've had wild boar ribs before i like that idea though just making porn parodies for yeah pigs that's awesome black hog down i watched that video that's pretty and then i found out also they have dogs that hunt the hogs dogs and hogs and the dogs like pin the hogs and then the guy comes and just slits its throat the hog yeah no i have heard of them hunting hogs with tannerite which is just an explosive it's fucking wild you shoot so you wait for all these hogs to get around a barrel like it's a doom video game and you just shoot the barrel yeah and it just explodes and incinerates like 50 hogs. I watched a video where they

did a double trap on hogs, on 60

hogs. They just put out a bunch of corn

seed and they all started eating it

and they dropped these two huge traps on them

and they went fucking crazy. I didn't watch the end

because I'm a pussy and I didn't want to see a bunch

of hogs get killed, even though they're feral.

They're feral and they're dangerous and they do a lot of

destructive work to crops and livestock. What does feral

mean? It means they're wild. They run everywhere.
They got mites all over there. PETA's got a big time issue.
What are they going to do with the feral hogs? They can't get close enough to them to save them. Yeah, this is going to be...
I actually would love to see a bunch of PETA people going down and being like, save our feral hogs and they just run over them. I just think of the Hannibal, the shitty Hannibal movie when the hogs eat the guy.
You got to be careful who you get into bed with as PETA and I feel like the hogs don't want your help that's a non-starter listen a wild hog they have a lot of pride I feel like a wild hog would rather die by getting shot with a rifle from a helicopter than have somebody from PETA come in and like pick it up and take it to safety verbal meme but not a meme because no one it's just a video that was shared last Wild hogs running, and it's Brett Bielema running after the Super Bowl. Remember that video? That's pretty good, yeah.
He was just trying to catch up to everyone. How about this live look at a wild hog when you try to shoot it with a caliber rifle that's too small, and it's just a picture of Bobby Petrino wearing his Arkansas thing in the neck brace.
Oh, the other fun fact I learned is a pig is a pig a hog is when a pig gets to 120 pounds so i'm two hogs and get slaughtered plus you're two hogs you have two hogs plus uh all right i'm a hog and half which almost sounds cooler yeah yeah that is i'm a i'm a deuce hog yeah that's pretty cool deuce hog uh all right so my cool throne is the broncos because paxton lynch bashed them paxton lynch is on seahawks now did you know that yeah okay so paxton lynch said uh talking about the seahawks it feels closer feels like a family i bring my fiance out here i bring my dad out here and they even say it too they feel so much more welcome around everybody they're so good to them they treat them so good they treat the players good uh it's actually well paxton it feels like part of a family it feels like everybody's close that's because you haven't been cut yet first of all and before you go any further i just want to say like i can't take anything that paxton lynch says seriously because he threw five interceptions in that bowl game when i bet on him i just want to get that i wanted to get that before before you got to it. I didn't know.
He didn't throw five interceptions. I looked that back up.
I definitely added a few interceptions to that. He threw a lot of interceptions and cost him money.
How about the fact that he had the weird sunglasses in a bowling alley on his draft night? Well, it wasn't just the weird sunglasses that bothered me. It was the combo of the weird sunglasses, the weird mustache, and the weird little beat poet goatee that he had going there.
He looked like a 22-year-old high school drug dealer. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
He looked like he had- Sold swag out of his white Jetta. I was going to say he looked like a guy that duct taped mids to the underside of his bike seat and then drove his Huffy through middle school.
Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from the cops. Yeah, I'm trying to keep a real low proof.
Yeah, so Paxton Lynch, now that I know that you're on the Seahawks, I got my eyes on you. That was a big mistake, talking.
Yeah. Because now I got – you're a feral hog in my book.
Well, Pete Carroll definitely didn't know that Paxton was on the team. Everyone now knows.
Is he the first backup now on the Seahawks? I always just think Matt Flynn is still there. I know he's not.
Yeah. And also Tavares Jackson is still there.
Maybe Seneca Wallace too. Tavares Jackson, he was a hot backup there for a while.
Wasn't Hasselbeck, didn't he spend a year as a backup? Yeah. I mean, yeah, he was obviously there for a while.
But yeah, I think he had a year or two as a backup. Yeah, I mean, you could pretty much, there's like a list of five guys that if they were, if you're like, that's a Seahawks backup, that makes sense.
Interesting that he goes from one city that's legalized marijuana to another. And he wears those glasses.
Interesting. All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore.
Because we were in Wisconsin, we thought we would do the Mount Rushmore of cheeses. A simple, easy one that I'm sure will get contentious with people online because everyone's got their favorite cheese.
Hank, you are going first. I am.
And then me. No, we go clockwise.
No. I mean, if we're keeping the same order as we always go, I go second now.
Because you went first on Sunday, and then Hank went, and then I did. I thought we all always go clockwise.
No, you start. The way it goes is I start the week three, and then I go two.
Then I go one. You start the week one, three, two.
I go snake with myself. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're sitting goofy.
We are sitting goofy. Oh, we're sitting goofy.
Oh, promise me. We didn't do it.
Barstool Gold. You'd get that joke.
All right, Hank, go. Keep it simple.
American. Ooh.
Interesting. I like it.
It goes good on burgers. I mean, growing up, I always have American slices in my house.
Big Cat saw me do this the other day. Yes.
Just go in the fridge. You take a couple slices.
It's good. Just a couple loosies.
Hank, this is it. Yesterday, Hank went to the refrigerator.
Well, first of all, there was no snacks. There was nothing else.
So that was like, I went for snacks, and then I was like, fuck. He came back with two slices of American cheese and a Monster Energy.
And I was like, who are you? I love it. And then you fold the cheese into four slices, so you get four little slices.
You break it in half? That's a five-course meal in Jacksonville. Into fours.
You break each slice into four slices, so you get four little slices. It's like that.
Oh, you break it in half? That's a five-course meal in Jacksonville.

Into fours.

You break each slice into fours.

You take a slice, you fold that in half,

and then you fold the half in half,

and then you have four little slices of cheese.

That's incredible.

Then you have a snack.

You're like the Bobby Flay of American cheese slices.

Way to dress it up.

Good presentation.

Yeah, excellent.

Bam.

Kick it off a notch.

All right, I'll go with...

I'm going to go with mozzarella because it's pizza cheese. It's versatile.
Mozzarella. Mozzarella.
Mozzarella. I love how Giada says it always.
I just love how she says any Italian word. She's like...
Because you're looking at her tits. Well, no, they're tasteful.
It's like a small, tasteful amount of cleavage, so it's not like I'm staring. It's just that I'm noticing it, I'm appreciating, and I mozzarella okay okay so my first yep my first one i'm going a classic real classic i'm going cheddar cheese yeah it's good cheddar cheese very versatile highly meltable works on sandwiches now works as a snack are we going just straight cheddar or is there degrees of cheddar that can be used in this i enjoy it no i think i don't you get all the cheddar think i get all the okay all right yeah i'm a sharp i know sharp cheddar if i have to choose i like sharp cheddar better um but i also like regular cheddar as well and white cheddar um my second choice i'm gonna go with provolone i love a good provolone on like a turkey sandwich okay i think it's the best sandwich cheese it's the most versatile sandwich cheese it's not a great cheese on its own no but it's a great yeah right like the best you don't do provolone and crackers you go cheddar and crackers correct right um all right i'll finish the pizza then i'll go with uh parmesan also you can't have pasta without a little parmesan on it sprinkle on and it's a hard cheese it cheese it is that's true fucking tough cheese hank wouldn't know about that real tough cheese all right hank you got two here all right i will go with uh pepper jack good pick and melted just melt wait i don't know melted i don't know if we can get melted.
What do you mean?

Okay.

Because if you take...

That's every kind of cheese.

Right, but if you take cheddar cheese and it's like you put hard cheddar cheese on a burger, not good.

You take cheddar cheese and you melt it on a burger, delicious.

Any type of cheese, if you melt it on top of something, makes it instantly better.

That was a hack.

That was a hack.

I'll allow it, but that was a hack.

Just hot cheese, okay?

Hot cheese.

What about the flaming cheese in Greek restaurants? Or flaming hot. Or Cheetos.
All right. I got a pick.
I'll go with cream cheese. Good pick.
You need cream cheese on a bagel. I mean, you got to.
You got to have it. You like flavored cream cheese? Oh, yeah.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
I get fucking spicy with it. Sometimes I'll do...
Bacon scallion? Sometimes I'll do the lox. Sometimes I'll do a little fucking veggie.
Feel like I'm eating a salad with my two bagels because you have to have two because you order one bagel to eat right away. And then the other is like an hour later.
You have to have to. That's how you get to.
That's how you get to do hogs. I've noticed that our company, I'm not going to, you know, like the worst bagels ever.
We've gotten a lot less bagels lately. Bagel Fridays have gotten very, very minimal.
And it goes upstairs. It's concerning.
Do you know that? That's why I didn't know that. I just know that I used to be able to come in and get one.
And now it's like, I haven't got a bagel on a bagel Friday. Bagel Mondays on floor two bagel Fridays on floor three.
I walked up to the third floor for a meeting a couple Fridays ago. And I was like, what the fuck is this? And you know what? Bagels have been here the whole time? I walked around the corner because somebody tipped me off.
They're like, all the bagel sandwiches are on floor three. The normal bagels are down here.
So I went up to get myself a sausage, egg and cheese breakfast bagel. Walk around the corner.
I'm getting eyed by everybody. Yep.
The secret's out. Look at this fatty.
What does this guy know? Yeah, right Worst bagels ever, too. And the worst thing...

What?

Yeah, they get plain.

Our bagel order at Barstool, this is now very trivial.

No, it's serious.

Go off.

But we need to say it because someone needs to listen and fucking change it.

We get probably 50 bagels, like five everything, five sesame, 40 plain.

It's gross.

And you know what's weird is the amount of plain cream cheese that we get is always excessive too. Right.
There's always like two big pints left over. Correct.
It looks like a lab sample from Pamela Anderson that just got stuck in the fridge. Can I say something real quick? We just have totally forgot the fact that there's ghosts in here.
Like, not me. Aaron and I'm sitting over.
I was going to say like, Aaron and Emily have been in there looking for ghosts and I think they found a lot. Big Cat, when we checked in the hotel, was like, oh, we can do my room and then right before, it was like, oh, let's do your room, Hank.
And now I'm realizing, like, we're going to find ghosts and I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. We're not going to do the mic yet, but just give me, how many ghosts do we have? She's, I think we got something going on in the bed.
Okay, all right, we're going to get to it. Something on the Christ.
We're doing something on the bed? Hank, if that was Mike Greenberg, he would probably nut tonight. Hank, just go into the...
Tell Liam he's got to stay in this room. Wait, what player fucked a ghost? I think Ron Artest.
Ron Artest. Good luck tonight, Hank.
In Oklahoma, right? Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown fucked a lot of ghosts.
Yeah. But Bobby Brown fucked ghosts, and he liked it, because he was like, I went back for more.
He stayed at the same hotel multiple times.

All right.

You have two.

Okay.

My last two, I'm going to go with nacho cheese.

Okay.

I love nacho cheese and this might rub some people the wrong way.

I love it the more unrealistic the cheese is.

Okay.

Like the more yellow, the like neon yellow color you get with stadium nachos.

I love that shit.

Okay.

You like, yeah, like the radioactive goo. Love that on nacho chips.
Okay. Yeah, absolutely.
And then my last one. They never give you enough jalapenos.
That's true. They give you two jalapenos.
That's true. And sometimes they give you double cheese and sometimes you just want one cheese, one salsa.
Right. And my last one is going to be cheesecake.
Oh. I love cheesecake.
I've never been a big cheesecake. Disgusting.
Yeah. I've never been a cheesecake.
Cheesecake is so good, especially if you get like a peanut butter chocolate cheesecake,

something like that.

But that's not the cheese.

It's the peanut butter and chocolate.

It's still in the cheesecake.

I'd rather have a peanut butter and chocolate ice cream cake.

Well, you know what?

Cheesecakes are more versatile, I'd say.

Okay.

My last pick, I'm going to go with string cheese.

Ew.

I mean, string cheese is a...

I had that, but melted cheese is a hack, but string cheese isn't.

Thank you. Okay, my last pick, I'm going to go with string cheese.
Ew. I mean, string cheese is a...
I had that, but melted cheese is a hack, but string cheese isn't.

Well, no.

Once you did melted cheese, the door's open.

Yeah, the door's open.

That's fine.

I have a lot of cheeses here, and I was going to go with something else.

Go with Gouda.

I was going to go...

Well, we'll get to the honorable mentions, but once you did melted, it was game on.

Yeah.

All right.

I wasn't going to say cheesecake until Hank said just melted.

I actually have Jeremy Piven in old in old school cheese that's pretty good yeah so can i do can i do queso because you did nacho cheese i feel like it's different uh now this is getting in i feel like it's very similar only us only we would fuck up with mount rushmore cheese i think queso plays i think it's different than nacho cheese. I'm going to say that.

Nacho cheese is, yeah.

I think it's different.

Like you're thinking of like Taco Bell, like what you get with nachos.

Queso is more like.

It's like a little browner.

No, so there are two different types of queso.

You two vote.

I vote yes.

There's white queso and then there's yellow queso.

Nacho cheese is yellow queso.

All right.

I'm voting that it counts.

Bubba.

White queso.

Hank, you can get white queso.

Okay.

Okay.

What you're saying? So you use nacho cheese is yellow. Okay.
So all right, I'm voting that it counts. Bubba white queso.

Hank, you get white queso.

Okay.

Okay.

White queso for Hank.

All right.

I was going to go three cheese if it didn't count, which I think would probably also be a hack.

But what is that?

Like on taco.

Like the Mexican blend?

Yeah.

I'm like soft tacos at Taco Bell.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Three different kinds of cheese.

Yeah.

It's a thing.

I mean, that would have been a nice.

You can buy it in a package.

What are our thoughts on blue cheese? Probably the most contentious cheese out there. I used to hate it.
Now I love it. Yeah, I love it.
Now I love it. Blue cheese, though.
I mean, obviously you guys know I hate fucking hot wings. It's like people only, like, it's like hot wings are so hot people can only eat it with blue cheese.
So it becomes they order wings just to eat blue cheese. Blue cheese is stinky too.
I like a cheese that smells.

We're like, ooh, that's a cheese.

You know what I love?

What's really gotten to me in my old age is like a nice gorgonzola with a pear.

Like that type of salad.

Ricotta.

You guys like ricotta?

Ricotta's good.

Ricotta's all right. A little sweetness to it.

Let's see.

Oh, the little baby cheeses?

Yeah, the wheels.

Yeah, those are awesome.

Oh, just a wheel of cheese. You don't like those? Nope.
Okay. Is that Gouda? I don't know what it is.
It's pretty Gouda. Feta? Feta's more of salad cheese.
Like, you're doing it to be like... Well, on a gyro.
Yeah, or yeah, a gyro. It works on a gyro.
The flaming cheese that they bring out. And they go, Oh, that shit's awesome.
I like Brie. I like uh i like uh well let's see you already took good i like my brie like a little bit melted you know i'm saying like yeah squeeze running on some toast um what other kinds of cheese we got i think that cheeses you could actually name all your kids after cheeses and it would work yeah like colby jack pepper jack brie mozzarella mozzarella this is the uh yeah the shithead one mozzarella uh the the halimut cheese that's the shit you can grill halloumi halloumi that stuff is so good yeah but that stuff is like cheating because i'll eat a whole thing of it and realize i'm a big cheese and cracker guy i'll eat a whole wheel of cheese uh no problem put it down and no problem trey wango wouldn't wouldn't even be mad.
No, he'd be impressed. Exactly.
I shit in the fridge, too. What's the...
I'm thinking of another... Fuck.
Maybe it's Gouda. I don't know.
Goat cheese is good, too. Goat cheese.
No, that's man card. No, goat cheese? Are you kidding me? That's chick cheese, bro.
I disagree. That's a big time chick cheese.
That's a hard disagree for me. Goat cheese is delicious.
You spread on spread on some crackers what are the fuck get some triscuits maybe it is gouda that i like smoked gouda smoked gouda smoked gouda is is is real good um all right anything else pepper jack allison brie who's she actress is she in anything she's stuck a flute in her vagina at Bandcamp. Oh, that's her? Oh, cool.

Now we're just doing... Oh, I met your mother.

Yeah, that's right.

We love that show.

It's her favorite show.

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Okay, here he is. Matt Patricia.
Okay, we now welcome on very special guest. He is the head coach of the Detroit Lions.
It's Matt Patricia. I was actually joking with PFT before that we usually do our grit week.
How do you define grit during grit week in the spring? But being around you, you're such a football guy. I'm just going to start with that.
How do you define grit? Grit week in the spring but being around you you're such a football guy I'm just going to start with that how do you define grit grit uh that's a good one um football wise you know I think we're probably you know talk about the toughness of the game all that you know running the ball stopping the run all kind of everything that has to do with the trenches you know other than that just uh you know there's probably a lot of good things out there that you got to to kind of just handle and grind through from that aspect. You've got to understand something.
Because we're taping this at the end of July, and we want football to be back so soon, that you just saying, you know, just got to handle your business in the trenches like that, that got me excited. I had goosebumps.
I had goosebumps. Kind of back in mode.
Yeah, right. Spring's a little bit different.
There might be a different grit in the spring right now. Do you like fullbacks? Definitely.
I mean, you got to get the fullback out there. You got to get them downhill and, you know, get the ball moving.
Hat on a hat football. Can you just say hat on a hat football? Absolutely.
We got to get a hat on a hat. Yeah, I love it.
I love it. Takes me right back to the high school locker room.
So I wanted to also start with. Probably with the Oklahoma the rest.
Yeah. The pencil.
Can we do that real quick too? Sure. I'm glad you're wearing it.
It's kind of permanent. Do you ever take it? Like, do you shower with it? Do you sleep with it? There's a lot of times I forget it's there.
Sometimes I'll have a pencil and then I'll have another pencil that I'm writing with and we'll stick two of them in there and I forgot the other one was there. Double fisted it.
Yeah. That's always a little bit of an issue.
I think the most dangerous thing is that I've learned, you know, sometimes, you know, you're seeing friends or family or whatever it is and, you know, you might hug it up a little bit and you got to be real careful. Yeah.
That's dangerous. It's very dangerous.
So when people say like the pencil is a stick or over the top, I mean, how long have you been rocking the pencil in the ear? Yeah. I mean, it's really just a good writing utensil.
I mean, I'm not really sure what we're talking about. It's just other than the fact that it works.
Yeah. So we've had the pencil for a long time.
Being an engineer kind of background, always use them. And honestly, it's something where I just take notes all all the time i noticed by the way you're you're doing such great football guy speech speak that you're saying we've had the pencil just talking about yourself we're in training mode right now so you know how it is you switch gears it's the collective team like everything about this is team is always the same kind of pencil by the way this is only going to be pencil questions yeah uh is it the same kind of pencil all the time do you have a go-to uh we're definitely at ticonder okay number two i mean that's our that's our standard never deviate from that uh you know my kids have given me some pretty cool ones that i'll rock once in a while a spider-man no you don't want to be caught on camera wearing the spider-man pencil yeah well uh not on not on game day can you tell when the graphite's a little too soft uh we just it's the same all the time.
I used to be a barrel eagle pencil fan, but they're too bendy. They're too bendy.
I need a pencil with a little bit of substance. You've got to be one of those guys that was into the pencil break game.
Oh, pencil fighting. You were trying to get the right pencil and have the right...
Pintex were the best for those. You bite the edges down, turn it into a shredder.
You've got shredder. Yeah, we could tell Jackson was all day.
With his baseball bat except a pencil. I want to compliment you, make another comment about your appearance.
You're rocking the hat forwards these days. Is that like a professional? Is that like a cognizant thing? You're like, you know, I'm a head coach now.
I'm going to turn the bill around. Yeah, no, just kind of just a hat, really.
Yeah. Yeah, the other thing is sometimes it's forward, sometimes it's backwards, and we're going.
Do you hear when, I mean, there was a whole thing last year about how you weren't dressing coach-like and maybe trying to be Belichick. Do you listen to that stuff? Or you're like, I'm literally just dressing how I've always dressed.
I honestly probably wear the same exact thing every single day. I just got eight different versions of it.

Right.

Like Steve Jobs. Right.
Just kind of go to work. Yeah.
So you're not copying Belichick. You just your brain has been warped by him for so many years that you just look exactly, you know, wear the same things over and over.
Yeah. I think I kind of got my own look.
You do. You do.
You do. So you're going into year two right now.
Year one was probably like, that must have been like a lot of stuff you find out on the job that you would not have been even prepared to know going into it. What was like the biggest thing that you didn't know going into year one that now you're like making a change with for year two? I think, you know, obviously there's a lot of things that you learn through the course of year one that, you know, you don't even anticipate as you're doing it.
I'd say one of the more interesting things for me as I got here, walked out to the practice field and, you know, I'm trying to visualize how the fields are going to be set up and looking at the space. And I kind of turned and I said to the grounds guy, I said, where the goalpost? And there was no goalpost.
And I was like, do we have the sleeves? We're going to we're going to like, no, we just kind of roll the goalpost out and just kind of take them back out and i was like okay can we let's just start with goalposts let's start there so pretty important part right at the ground level we're just trying to get it all right and uh you know make sure we can go out there and practice some bears fans would probably hope for fewer goals yeah just get rid of them all together get rid of let's get to that because i a Bears fan. I have said some things about the Lions and you.

So let's get out in the open.

Last year, after you guys lost against the Jets, I think I said you lost the locker room.

Now, I say that because it just sounds cool when you're like, well, I think you lost the locker room.

When you don't really have anything to say of substance in the media business, you can always say he lost the locker room. So did you ever lose the locker room? Locker room is downstairs.
It's in the same place. It hasn't moved.
That's where the guys have all their stuff. So we're good.
Okay. And then the other one, I think you saw this clip.
Mike Florio, when I was on with him on NBC Sports, he said, don't sleep on the Lions this year. And I said, you could sleep on the Lions every year and never wake up.
That's good for us. We like that.
A little motivation. We're good.
The Bears, the Packers, the Vikings, obviously just we're trying to catch up. I think it's just fair that I got it out in the open.
We like to do this because we don't want to walk out of this interview and then you see that we said something in the past. You're like, oh, these guys are two-faced.
They kissed my butt. So I had a couple things I said about you.
And I don't think they're that bad. No.
The first one, you were all dressed up one day. I think you were wearing the black bowling shirt or the Guillabara shirt.
shirt one's awesome it is nice it's a nice shirt but i i said i did say this matt patricia looks like a hot topic manager going to a funeral so i plays so i said that and then i at one point i also i said oh he uses a pencil on a laminated piece of paper what a total psychopath and then i also accused you of uh faking the haw the Hawaiian nuclear missile thing because you're a rocket scientist to throw Marcus Marriott off before you beat him in the playoffs. It was that day.
So I just want to get that all in the open. Do you guys feel better? Water under the bridge.
Do you feel better? Honestly, we're good. So the rocket scientist part of your education, do you think Elon Musk is a fraud? Wow.
These are really in-depth questions. I'm just trying to make sure we got practice right for you.
Probably haven't gotten that one, have you? No, that's a good one. That's really unlike the ones that you guys usually give me when you're sneaking into buildings trying to come up with good questions to ask me.
So I haven't gotten that one yet. Let me get back to you.
Okay, yeah, look into it. Could you put a rocket in the air right now? Like, do you have enough? Absolutely not.
There's no chance. If I give you all the raw materials and lock you in a room with food, water, toilet for six months, could you build a missile? Can we get to the moon? Yeah, I'm just trying to make sure that we can get a first down.
Okay. We'll take it one step at a time.
We're focused on that focused on that would you say getting first down is rocket science uh it's not rocket science there we go football yeah it's football is there like i assume you keep in touch with some of the people that you went to school with is there an element where they're like hey man you're wasting your time you're you know you're an nfl coach that's beneath you you should be building you should be out here designing like boeing planes that don't crash uh pretty much uh definitely not I don't even kind of you lost me there for a second I was like no you know when I switched I got out of engineering I left tried to get into coaching that's I think when I got the sideways looks a little bit of you know what are we doing but yeah you know we're okay so what was it about about coaching that like it's obviously like a much much different career path than uh the path that you could have gone down what was it about coaching that, like, it's obviously like a much, much different career path than the path that you could have gone down? What was it about coaching in particular that you were like, you know what? It's worth it for me to, like, follow my passion, maybe take a few steps backward in terms of pay, all that stuff. Like, what was it that made you decide to go down that road? Yeah.
Good. Finally got a good question.
Here we go. All right.
Are we finally rolling on this thing all right is this for real now good okay perfect um you know what that is it's a great question i think you know for me um doing engineering and playing college football obviously at a very you know small school but um when the game's over it's over you know there's there's not like you can't um go out and play it with your buddies on you know saturdays we're not throwing the equipment on and having a game. So, you know, the aspect of the game that I missed the most is the camaraderie and the relationships and all that.
So doing engineering, I remember just kind of that first fall that came around that was without football and the smell of the grass and, you know, you get that camp feeling and you get a little bit of nervousness, a little bit of excitement and you just want to go out there and, and go practice. And I just knew I had to be back around it.
So I think at that moment I really thought that, you know, I'd be a lot happier just want to go out there and go practice. I just knew I had to be back around it.
I think at that moment, I really thought that I'd be a lot happier just trying to help people and coach and teach the game, whether it was high school, college, professional, whatever it was. The relationships is what it's all about and building those relationships and holding on to them.
It's something you just can't really get anywhere other than the game of football. Good answer.
That's a very good answer. I imagine you can correct me if I'm wrong, but when you joined the Patriots coaching staff, you were an offensive assistant at first.
You're probably not doing a lot of that hands-on, instructing all the time, one-on-one with guys. From what I know about the organization, they start you out.
You're doing data entry. You're logging film, doing all this stuff.
What was it about, even though it wasn't a glamorous job at the time that made you say hey i want to stick around because i know eventually like i'll get to that place where i'm working with guys um you know i don't i don't know if all of that is really accurate you know to be honest with you i think when you go into a staff and you know you're part of the coaching staff you're doing a lot of things are you doing a lot of those type, you know, data entry and, you know, analytics part of it? Sure. But you're out in the field grinding every single day.
We're coaching. I was working with the offensive line at the time and, you know, just developing that relationship with those guys.
And, you know, for me, it was just, again, it was another part of the path that I wanted to go along to try to be a coach. And I was obviously at a great place and working for great people.
So, you know, it was all, it was all really good, but you know, you move on, we're here and we're trying to do the same thing. You're trying to develop coaches, develop players, put everything together from that atmosphere point from a culture and build it from the ground up and a foundation.
And that's the fun part, right? When you get to kind of just start over and see what you can do. Yeah.
You bring up a kind of a cool point. What's the difference between coaching players and coaching coaches? Yeah, it's a great question.
And really, it's probably the – yeah, you're good. You're two for two right now.
I'm in the zone. Yeah.
So as long as we just go from where we started and, you know – I'll just shut up for the rest of the year. The rocket is on its way to the moon.
Now I screwed up my question by complimenting my own question too much. I'll say this.
One of the biggest things is obviously players but you know you do have to develop coaches and and i think as a head coach uh you coach the entire team i think as a coordinator you you spend a lot of time coaching the coaches and the coaches coach the players you know you're in the meeting rooms with them uh when you break out of the big sessions and go into those individual rooms and you're teaching fundamentals and techniques and all that so um you just that's look it doesn't matter. It's all about trying to improve everybody in whatever their job is.
And that's important. And certainly you're trying to get better yourself.
So. Was that a hard transition going from a coordinator to head coach and being like, hey, listen, sometimes I can't just teach technique to a defensive lineman.
I have to step back and be like, someone else got to do this. I would say it's just, it's an interesting transition.
You know, it's, it's, there's so many things that tug you in a lot of different directions that you may not be kind of in, you know, the ground level as much as you want to. That's certainly interesting.
You definitely experienced a little bit of that when you kind of go from a position coach to a coordinator a little bit because just there's different responsibilities, you know? So we've heard through the grapevine and I think I've read stories, where Belichick would help his assistants every year kind of give them maybe a little lesson on what it is like to be a head coach. Do you remember one of those years where he either gave you a task or gave you a lesson like this is what's going to be different when you become a head coach? You know, Coach and I had a lot of long conversations, a lot of great conversations.
He's a great man. He's a great friend.
And, you know, he did a lot for me. And I'm really thankful for that.
So we'll just leave it at that. Is it weird? That was good to you.
That was very Belichickian of you. You're never going to reveal the secrets.
Was it is it tough, though? Because I think the media is fascinated with Belichick's coaching tree. Sure.
And like you said, you're close friends with him.

He's taught you a lot.

But then to step outside of that shadow, do you feel that at all?

Because it feels like every guy who leaves New England gets judged by Belichick's standards, rightfully or not.

You know, it definitely feels like that in the media.

Sure.

I mean, pretty much focused on just trying to get the Lions right.

So for me, it's just all about the Detroit Lions and this community, this fan base, this ownership and this team. And really what's awesome is the fans here are unbelievable.
You know, when I see them out and I get a chance to say hello, they're so excited. And it's just, it's one of those things that, you know, drives me back to work and make sure that I'm grinding away to try to do everything I can to get this right.
You should get a picture of Detroit Don and Superfan. And just like every day when you get in your truck, I assume you drive a truck, you just look at that picture and you're like, it's for these guys.
Do you know those guys? Well, I mean, we got to get some posters up. We'll get a roll from that aspect of it.
We got to get some posters of those two guys. Do you drive a truck? We were speculating that you drove like a Silverado.
Pickup truck? We know you drive the ATV. What kind of car do you drive? You just crashed right there.
You had two good ones. Yeah, yeah.
No, that was a good one. I think that was fair.
That would be a Ford. Oh, okay.
Yeah, we're in Detroit. The hand up, that was a big mistake.
Dang. So what do you drive? A truck.
F-250? Yeah. It would be awesome if you drove a Prius.
You're like, sorry, guys. It is what it is.
That would be great. I really don't drive much.
It pretty much sits out there and parks. Yeah.
You signed Mike Daniels. Congratulations.
Thanks. He said in his, I think one of his first interviews, he said he signed here, because of you specifically, he called you a genius.
How many extra millions of dollars did you pay him to have him say that?

You know, he's just he's a great guy. You know, he's he's coming in ready to work and we're excited to work with him.
So can't wait to get it going. Obviously, a guy that I have tremendous respect for.
You know, he's a problem out there on the field and I'm glad he's on our side and somebody that I watch extensively. You know, when you watch players in the league and you go through week in, week out and game plan and evaluate, you tend to look at guys and say, wow, that would be a guy that we think we could do something with and work with.
But we've got to see. We'll get there.
How cold is too cold to not wear shorts? That's a good question. The cold isn't really it.
It's the wind. Cold doesn't bother me so much the wind is that's that's bad okay so uh like 10 degrees but no wind shorts i think we're good shorts yeah i think we're good do you worry at all about uh sometimes people say bigger guys and it's big guy to big guy bigger guys are the ones who wear shorts in the in the winter and we kind of get a bad rap for it got it um i.
Have you lost weight though? I'm in the process. I've been on a diet for three days.
Yeah, you're doing good. I see that.
I see that in you. It feels good.
Yeah, I'm just going to practice. Okay.
Okay. You just go to practice and whatever's comfortable.
I'm pretty much running to practice. Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, let's go. I got my script.
Let's get out there and let's get out there and let's okay um all right so seek e question put in the promo code take you get ten dollars off go to a lions game this year see matt patricia on the sidelines seek e uh promo code take i want to play a little game we are at the combine what would you ask us we're two stud we're doing a tandem interview it's kind of weird we're two stud prospects what's. What's the go-to question to figure out what we're made of? Sure.
I think the first question I'm going to ask you is what position do you play? I'm actually ATH athlete, so you can put me anywhere. Great.
How about yourself? I'm an offensive weapon. Okay, perfect.
So we're pretty good. Clock's up.
You guys can, you know. Do you have any go-to, like maybe ones that you've retired because we don't want to do any ones that you use now but any ones that you've used in the past that you're like this is a good question that gets to kind of to the bottom of it not like are you a dog or a cat no we're just trying to get basic information I feel like at point, you probably know as much as you need to know about a player.
You just bring him in, make sure you can look him in the eye, and that things are okay, that he doesn't try to fight you. They're there on a job interview that's pretty much really not that exciting.
Do you love watching film? Yeah, absolutely. I could tell when you were talking about Mike Daniels a second ago that you got excited because you've seen him play on film sure probably game planning against him and now you're like hell yeah he gets to be on our side who is uh who's your favorite player to watch on film my favorite player to watch on film um this is a great question there you go um jim brown oh okay okay that was that would definitely be, you know, Jim Otto.

I was a big Jim Otto fan growing up. I thought he was pretty cool with the double zero.

So just love the game.

Love all of it.

There was a great, I think it was called Crunch Course back in the day in the 80s.

There was a great video that the NFL did that I think NFL films,

they do such a great job of capturing the game.

I think that was one of the ones I remember distinctly that just you fell in love with it and you fell in love with the game. What's the most amount of film you've watched in one sitting? I don't even think you can count that.
We talking 12 hours? More? I mean, there's usually something that comes up. You're not going to sit there 12 hours straight, but I mean, within a day, I mean, you're grinding.
We're watching tape. So when you're watching tape, what's your setup like? You got a nice monitor.
Do you have an Excel spreadsheet pulled up? What's your doc look like? These are a lot of hot topic questions right here. I mean, we love it.
This is the nitty gritty. We're smiling for real.
I would say in my office, I think I have probably four monitors, two televisions that I watch film off of. You constantly just kind of have everything up and you're rolling.
Do you think at some point the NFL will do 3D film where you put on the glasses? We might have a little bit of that going. Do you dream in film? I don't even know if I dream anymore.
I think I just kind of blink and then I wake up and I just get going. That's a football guy answer.'s a big time football guy answer were you uh were you concerned when there were the reports that hard knocks was going to be here this year again i was just really trying to focus on the spring at that point i think uh so it was my dog that started that rumor by the way yeah yeah yeah so i'd like to apologize if that was it's interesting how um your your dog spawned a lot of text messages to my phone.
You know, there's a direct correlation there. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. He was acting on a hot tip.
He's been disciplined. It won't happen again.
I appreciate that. I suspended him from Twitter for, I think, like a week, which is actually seven weeks in dog years.
So he's been off for a while. So you were a defensive coordinator for the Patriots, Tom Brady.
Would you say the way to beat Tom Brady is to pressure the quarterback? Yeah. So, you know, we had a good practice today.
We got to a lot of early down situations here. We're going to get into some third down stuff.
You have to love, though. Come on.
I love whenever someone would be like back and it still happens. But, like, the key to beating the Patriots is sack the quarterback.
I think the key to beating every team is to sack the quarterback. I think the key to beating a team is, you know, the score.
Yeah, you were going to do that. I know you were going to do that.
Score more points than the opponent. He's a math guy.
Yep, that is. Yeah, that is.
There's the math guy shining through. What's the one thing that if you're at a practice at the end of the day, you're like today was a good practice as opposed to, to a bad practice.
Because a lot of times, if I've gone to a training camp, it kind of all looks the same to me. But what are those details that you zero in on that make the difference? Okay, you've circled back.
You've redeemed yourself. You're back on a good question.
There you go. It's a good job.
I would say for me, as a coach, as I watch all of it, I want to see, obviously, the pace, the tempo, the execution, the communication, and I want to see it all operating and working at a high level um you know we look at the game and we look at practice there's just certain things that we you know um that we can't live with that are going to come up in the game if they happen that we'll lose so trying to eliminate those mistakes and just be able to go out and practice and put stuff on film that we can then take into the classroom and teach off of that's the most important thing and when we kind of walk off the field the field feeling like, all right, we can really learn from today, I think that's when you feel the best. I think the one thing I was told a while ago, and it's probably true, is when you're watching practice, I think when it's done, it's never as bad and it's never as good.
So, you know, when you go back and look at the tape, you know, you probably maybe it was a bad practice. There's probably a lot more good in there than you thought.
And, you know, if you thought it was a good practice, there's probably some things in there you've got to get fixed. Just try to keep it even.
When we interviewed Doug Marone, he said he sometimes closes his eyes during training camp and listens to, you know, like the pads and the helmets cracking. What's your favorite football sound? Yeah, that's a great kind of, you know, moment.
I distinctly remember, you know, early training camps in my career. You know, there's different points of camp like rookies or early training camp, whatever it is.
And then when the full team got back out there, the sound of the game, it's awesome. It's, you know, it's just everything that kind of just brings you back into that moment.
And when you get the pads, you know, and they're cracking out there and, you know, guys are communicating, yelling and screaming and getting, you know, everything worked up.

It's that's fun.

That's, you know, fire it up.

Let's go.

So you can probably tell the difference between a good practice and a bad practice by a lot of the sound because you were talking about tempo.

Yeah.

I don't know if you can tell if it's good or bad, but you can definitely tell the difference.

A hundred percent.

If you're, you know, if you're trying to have a physical practice and you don't hear it, hear it, um, it's probably, you know, cause they're not being physical and that's something you got to work on. What's, uh, what does everyone wants to be a lion until it's time to do lion shit mean to you? That's a, that's a good one right there.
Um, it's a good saying. Yeah.
It is. Did you come up with that? It's a great saying.
I don't think I can take credit for that at all. Uh, not at all.
So, um, yeah yeah we're just trying to come to work every day and uh i love this interview because i feel like a mouse in a in a maze and every now and then i just run right into a wall yeah you give me a you give me a an answer that's just football guy answer that i know i can't get in i gotta turn around you keep Where am I going here? You keep shocking yourself again and again, trying to get the cheese.

One of these times it's going to work.

It's okay.

No, we're learning.

It's fun.

I'm having a great time.

Here's an easier question.

Do lions concern themselves with the opinions of sheep?

That's another great quote.

I'm going to mess this up.

LeBron James actually came up with that.

Yeah, I don't think it was LeBron James.

So, good one.

Do they?

Do they concern themselves? You're going to have to go ask. Okay.
Go ask a lion. I am asking a lion.
Yeah. You're the head coach of the lions.
Okay. Because I had a motivational idea for you guys in the facility.
Yes. At the entrance, there should be like a stuffed sheep.
And then when you walk past it, nobody's allowed to look at it. No eye contact.
Because we don't concern ourselves with that. Got it.
It's like some coaches have the football on the wall that you hit every time right you just don't look at the sheep that's good it'll work down the line somehow i don't know what about a lion in a cage as well kind of really get it up there we're definitely going down a path okay all right last question last question um how was our posture in this interview?

Posture was okay.

Okay.

Yep.

Some slouching, definitely some leg crossing.

Okay.

That was good.

Yep.

Fidgeting, dropped a notepad, the sunglasses inside, you know, it's your thing.

It's like my pencil.

It's cool.

You wear shorts in January, so you can't really judge. I get it, but, you know, just a little bit more maybe, you know, on attention would be better.

I'll tell you what, I dropped the notepad, but I didn't pick it up because I felt like we were having such a good report. You were telling me how good my questions were.
You were unbreakable. You just kind of went right through that and, you know, 100% didn't let that break your stride.
All right. Last, last question for me.
How long would two guys like us last in Matt Patricia's coaching staff? Yes. That is a good one.
How long have you been in the building? Like 35 minutes. Probably.
Can we take some more of those Diet Cokes on the way out? How many of you guys have hidden away already? We've been taking everything. We're good at ordering dinner.
We could be like, hey, anyone want to eat anything? That happens to be one of my favorite things. So, I mean, you guys, there's value there.
Right. There's value.
So, you just have to have value to the team. And when you're like, do your job, we're like, our job is to order the pizza.
There you go. Done.
That's what we got to get. Yeah.
My last, last question. There was that famous picture of last year's practice when you guys were outside in the snow which i enjoyed you like practicing outside more than you practice inside even if you're playing an inside game is that is there like something more that you can teach outside is a practice uh does it sink in more if you're outdoors as opposed to inside yeah i mean i think i just love being outside most of the time in my world it's 70 and fluorescent so i don't really get out there that much unless we're in practice.
And I think, you know, we can go out there and practice safely. There's a lot that goes into it about being on the grass as opposed to the turf.
And, you know, certainly at I think that point in the year, we still had two outdoor games. That definitely could have been pretty severe weather.
So just took a good opportunity to practice in it before we got in it for the first time and didn't know how to respond. But I think we've moved on from all that.
I think we're good just trying to practice. Okay.
All right. What's your record this year? Guaranteed.
Guaranteed right now is 0-0. So, yeah, that's where we are.
Trying to go 1-0. I mean, I'm trying to win tomorrow.
I'm trying to win the rest of this interview. Yeah, you're good.
You're good. I think I just did.
I think we're good. Okay.
You can take that. Fuel up, by the way.
Get better every day. Thank you.
I appreciate it. Do better with – what did you hurt? We have a foot injury.
A lower body injury. I like it.
Don't let the opponents know what you have. There's no weakness.
Yeah, yeah. You just have a foot injury.
It's just something got you to the doctor., begrudgingly, I assume.

Definitely.

Yeah, there's no way you went there because you wanted to.

And then you came out with a cast and you don't know.

Woke up a couple hours later and it was a cast and, you know, just can't put any weight on it.

I'm shocked that you didn't go with the light color cast and have everyone sign it.

You seem like that type of guy.

Yeah.

I think a couple players were trying to sign it as I was rolling through the hallway.

So I had to kind of go a little faster so they couldn't you know autograph it but yeah yeah um all right coach thank you so much it's been a ton of fun seriously we i could do this forever because go running into the wall is very very funny yeah i don't know why reporters complain about it honestly yeah it's like yeah yeah just yeah you keep firing questions until you get one good one,

and then the other ones are just going to suck,

and you're going to give us the road answer.

We'll wear you down eventually and sleep one by you.

Hopefully you guys can come back,

and maybe it's not the start of training camp.

We'll get a little bit more time.

It's a little bit less lax.

Yeah.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Fair.

For the Super Bowl.

We'll come back when you guys are in the Super Bowl.

Like you guaranteed earlier.

Yeah.

In the Super Bowl?

Yeah. I think we're done.
All right in the Super Bowl. Like you guaranteed it earlier.
Yeah. In the Super Bowl? Yeah.

I think we're done.

All right. Thanks, Coach.
Appreciate it.

All right.

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Happy birthday, Mike. Okay, let's get to some segments.
First up, we have a trouble in paradise, Tom Brady. He is putting his house up for sale, which is always sign number one.
So he might be the new coach of Alabama. Yeah, I mean, all we need is his tail number for his private jet.

Anytime any celebrity gets involved in selling their house,

you have to make that.

You have to connect that dot just a little bit.

Yeah, John Gruden was looking at houses in Knoxville last year.

That's true.

Yeah, you always got to throw that out there.

Are you just a little bit worried that this is last year?

It's kind of weird.

No.

He just restructured his contract. And he has like a thousand houses, him and Giselle.
Yeah, good point. He's just probably moving to all the real estate he owns in everybody else's brain.
Wow. Including both of yours.
Got him. Got him.
So you're not nervous at all. No.
I wish, like, one day I'll make a compilation of every single time you guys have been like, here's a story about Tom Brady. Hank, you're nervous.
Hank, you're nervous. Wait, should we not talk about

we are a sports show?

Should we talk about sports?

You guys want him to regress more than anyone.

I don't.

Once Busted Coverage gets on the beat, you gotta notice

Busted Coverage, by the way,

the preeminent real estate

celebrity site.

That and somebody that they're maybe

possibly dating or dated in college. They'll get the bikini pictures real quick.
This house, I saw the pictures are insane. Now, were we able to look at the inside of the house? I feel like all the pictures were the inside of the guest house, which was nicer than any other house I've ever been.
So that was just the guest house. So you're not nervous at all? 0% nervous.
Good to know. I just think it's interesting that he's selling his house that's a weird process to go through as you're in the middle of a really stressful about to get started with a season he's gonna have to do like oh hey tom uh on thursday we have some clients can you clean up the house yeah he's gonna get that email uh tom you left out all your weird avocados can you put them away tom there's a lot of flies in the kitchen.
Can you make sure you put down the seat on all the toilets? Because that's a real estate trick. That kind of stuff.
He's definitely got a urinal in that house. Tom Brady has a urinal? Probably.
Dude, think about it. You're the one that's saying that he can't hit a wall.
Shout out Coach Dana. Urinal in his house, remember? Yep.
By the way, I'm going to put this on the AWLs to to remind us week two of college football friday night on espn houston versus washington state we got to get coach dana and mike leach on before that okay so remind us because we're gonna forget also monday remind us yeah the yeah the week before it's coming up we'll get them both on also i'd like to make make a quick announcement here this is a verbal notes app. Okay.
So I'm saying this out loud in the notes app from PFT Commenter. I'm sorry, Alison Brie did not put a flute into her pussy.
That Alison Brie was a different actress, it looks like. So sorry about that.
Okay. All right.
Well, I regret to inform you I was incorrect. So we fix it.
We always fix our mistakes. I will work nonstop to be better at determining which celebrities have made jokes about their pussies.
Next up, we have a way to stay relevant baseball. It's Players Weekend, and they have the new jerseys.
And last year, they were fun, weird colors, nicknames. They put the nicknames on the back this year all black and white straight black and white uh i actually think this is a genius move by baseball they're heinous the jerseys but genius move to get everyone to talk about them yeah genius move also it's probably the most fixable mistake of all time yeah so like they can act like they're being the adam silver now where people can get mad about them and they can instantly be like okay here's our new version and they just add in like colors on the letters yeah like yeah so they can save it piping yeah they can they can on the sleeves they can save it real quick but i there's an element that I kind of like about the black and white.

That's what you like.

Color rush.

I like anything that's all one color, and sometimes colors on baseball jerseys just look like the devil's Instagram filter.

The problem I have with it is that if you don't have black or white in your team colors, it's just weird to wear a completely different color than your team colors.

That part is weird to me.

They should make the white socks just get dressed up like bright pink. Yeah.
Just something totally different. You know what I mean? Like I do.
You're the Oakland A's and you're wearing all white jerseys. Like what are all black jerseys? They might have the piping, like I said, in the hat, but like all black jerseys, you're like, what's going on here? Or the rays are wearing all black jerseys.
You don't have that anywhere in your colors. Yeah, I agree.
I think that it is kind of gross to look at at first. They look like alternate jerseys that you can only find to buy in San Francisco or Oakland.
I picture that as like I've seen so many 49ers jerseys that are just all blacked out. Right.
That's what I imagine. And now they will get some buzz when they take the field on players weekend.
And everyone's like, what the fuck is going on?

This is real.

So good.

Good on you, baseball.

Staying relevant.

Also, shout out to Max Scherzer.

You know how they're letting you put your like whatever name you want on the back of your jersey.

What do you put?

He's going his brown eye.

Nice.

Yeah.

That's kind of solid.

Fucked up to his blue eye.

Yeah.

But brown eye.

Yeah, that is good.

All right.

Yeah.

No, I get it. Talking about A&S.
And right in the dugout yeah there you go uh all right we have a even a blind pig finds an acorn new new segment the redskins are doing something correct somehow somehow some way well no i know how because makes dan snyder money they're gonna figure out a way to screw it up pretty quickly. But, yeah, they're offering live in-game betting on their first preseason game.
But it's not like betting in the traditional sense where you can put up $50 and then get $50 back or whatever instantly. It's like whoever picks the most plays correctly during this quarter will get $1,000.
Okay. But this is so perfectly Dan Snyder.
Is it that like the world's finally collided where the only the the move right now is to embrace gambling and it also will make dan snyder even richer than he is so he can finally have one correct move but he's so dumb that he's gonna screw it up i he probably actually believes that because his team is named the redskins he's allowed to operate a casino definitely. Definitely.
Definitely. I think he believes that like in the court of federal law, he'll be fine in the long run.
Yes, yes, absolutely. All right.
Let's wrap up with guys on ghouls. Aaron, you want to come in here and let us know what we found? So we have the guys and girls from Supernatural Investigation crew, SIC in the shadows.

They've been searching for ghosts this entire time.

You guys found something.

So is it going off right now?

This is Anley talking.

Yeah, so some of it is kind of triggering right now on both corners of the bed and also the center of the bed.

We've also got a little bit of activity going there.

When you say triggering, what does that mean? Are these snowflakes? Are they protesting? They're protesting our presence? No. So it's actually equipment that we have.
So one of it is an electroscope. It's done by Paranologies.
And basically, it measures static energy and picks up on high levels of it. So unless you're physically touching this thing or moving your hand right above it, it shouldn't be picking up anything.

It shouldn't be lighting up.

So what were the questions you were asking?

You were silently asking questions.

Yes.

So I was asking questions like if there's anybody here, if there's anybody that wants to communicate, if anybody is going to be staying in this room later.

And it popped up?

Yeah.

What did they say?

Green.

Yes.

That sucks.

When you asked, is anybody going to be staying in this room later, were they like, definitely?

Yeah. It was like, definitely? Yeah.

Yeah, it was like a very solid green.

Was it a guy's voice or a girl's voice?

Oh, I didn't hear the voice.

But good luck.

Let us know.

Damn.

I mean, we're joking, but like, I'm actually serious.

We're small staying here.

Yeah.

So, we probably have the same ghost.

Now, in your...

So, a little backstory.

You guys have been doing this for how long?

I've been doing it probably for a good couple of years now. Aaron, how long have you been doing it? This is about 20 for me.
Aaron's been doing it for 20. Now, what is like the wildest ghost that you've found? Oh, God.
Because I believe. There's been some really, really crazy ones.
There's been, oh, the legal abortion doctor ghost. Oh, no.
This is a very dark territory. So, the ghost was an abortion doctor? So, he was like a regular medical practitioner by day, but by night, he was giving all his mistresses abortions.
Whoa. So, now we're talking about fetus ghosts? No, no.
We didn're talking about like fetus ghosts.

No, no, we didn't pick up on fetus ghosts.

But it was his ghost.

I think a lot of it's buried in the backyard of the house where it was his office.

Oh, my God.

So can I hold one of these instruments?

So this is the instrument that I ask questions.

Yeah.

A little bit of green or red.

Oh, oh, it's lighting green right now. Well, because you asked, is this the instrument that I use to ask questions? Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Good call, good call. Off to a good start.
Is there a ghost in here? Wait, what, I got to hold it. Okay.
It shouldn't be lighting up that saw that long. It's, okay, so you're here.
Dude, you're here. Can I try? Wait, it's right, it's right here.
Look at it. I'm going like this.
It's off. Hey, ghost.
He's literally sitting next to me. You pointed right at Bubba.
No, Bubba, move away. He's sitting right next to me.
He's sitting right here. The Ghost is right here.
Ask me a question. What's your name? Oh, wait, no, he can't.
You have to do yes or no. Is LeBron James the goat? Nope.
Is Michael Jordan the goat? Oh, Kobe. Yeah, no, he's Michael Jordan right there.
The Ghost is the Kobe guy. It was Michael Jordan the goat Oh Kobe yeah no Michael Jordan it was Michael Jordan he thought Kobe should have been higher on that list is PFT five nine yes solid brutal shout out to the ghost can't see height though they can feel like feel everything they feel my energy okay I got five nine energy even if I don't have this instrument tells this instrument tells us where the ghosts are then you also have this yeah explain this to the people who are listening um some people are watching but most people are listening in the tables of 360 it's a lot like this right here but it'll actually go with movement around so we were in a jail in indiana one time and we put it between two cells and we asked the spirit do you go from one cell to the other and it literally lit half a horse to a round where it looked like it walked out one cell right into the other cell fuck so that's crazy all right this thing is a little bit it might be a little harder to hear uh it's kind of annoying in a way okay so it reverses radio frequency so like am fm like stations uh really fast at a really fast rate.
And you're not supposed to really understand anything. So if you pick up any words on it, that could be someone trying to communicate with you.
Especially if it's anything like a curse word because of FCC regulations. Oh, right.
So this is finding ghosts. Hey, ghost, you can cuss on this podcast.
Fuck, fuck.

This is crazy.

I like it.

Here, I'm going to mic it up. It's really fun to dark room late at night in abandoned building.

So what should we be looking for if the ghosts show up?

Like, will it start flipping out?

Well, it depends.

This location is known for a lot of, like, static play.

That's a ghost talking. that's a ghost talking that's a ghost talking whoa yo i believe this shit so much.
This is crazy. Is there anybody in this hotel?

Is there a ghost here?

Are you going to mess with Hank right in his room while he sleeps?

Oh, I heard something there.

There's a female. least you got a chick Hank What the fuck This is crazy Make sure you get this side of it So Bubba can get that.
The Poltercom. I mean, there's a ghost talking.
What's your name? I mean, these are answers. I heard Allison.
There's someone trying to talk to us. This is wild.
So normally on stuff like this, it's kind of hard to hear with the naked ear right off the bat. Yeah.
So on this, you'll record and you'll play back a lot of times. And when you play it back and listen to the audio back, you can normally hear it pretty clear.
So you've been able to do that where you've been able to hear a ghost play back. You'll hear you like, oh, I think it said Mike or something.
Then you hear it back. Yeah, we can turn it off.
We can turn it off now. Okay.
That, I mean, that thing was talking. I heard several words.
That thing was talking. So you play that back and you can hear like people actually speaking? Yeah.
So right off the bat, like he said, it's really, really hard to dysurfer. It comes so quickly, so fast.
So we'll take it home. We'll slow it down.
We'll listen with some really great headphones and we'll try and decipher it a little bit clearer what we'll normally do on location is we'll take a device like this or a spirit box and we'll we'll put them on headphones and blindfold people and we'll sit them in a chair and so now they can't hear you or can't see you and we'll ask questions and then the person with the headphones is listening to this white noise in the radio and the minute they hear a voice or anything they spit out whatever it's set and a lot of times it'll answer the questions we're asking. Talking through the the the the the the the the the

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And a lot of times they'll answer the questions we're asking.

Talking through.

They don't know where we're asking questions.

They can't read our lips.

And the ghost is talking through the body.

Yep.

Now, can you tell the difference between like a happy, benevolent ghost and like an angry ghost?

Yeah.

How can you tell that?

What do we have here?

The voice.

I mean, you'll get some real deep voices sometimes.

That's normally when the box goes off.

We're like, okay, we're going to step away for a minute.

Thank you. ghost? Yeah.
So how can you tell that? What do we have here? The voice. I mean, you'll get some real deep voices sometimes.
Normally when the box goes off, we're like, okay, we're going to step away for a minute. So is this ghost, in your expert opinion, would you say it sounds like it's friendly? I mean, from what I can hear, it sounds like it sounds like there's at least two or three.
I heard at least two women's voices and at least one male. Party, Hank.
Hank, are you nervous? It's twins, Hank. Your dream.
I'm just going to... We're going to we're gonna leave and i'm just gonna pretend like this never happened okay so you do know you do then i'm have to come and listen to this back probably and you believe that there are ghosts here oh yeah yeah 100% ghosts so i like when you go somewhere great this compared to your other places you've gone like this is a pretty active place or medium it is with some of the reports especially from people that are self-claimed skeptics i'd say yeah this is a very active place there's a lot of history here is there any recommendation of what you can do like if if hank encounters the spirit tonight or something unusual happens while he's trying to sleep is there a way he can tell the spirit like i'm okay i don't fear you please don't hurt me always be firm i'm kind of like hank has trouble with that sometimes i mean be firm with him and say get the heck out of my room or i mean that's what you could say and they're supposed to respect you so it doesn't always happen that way i'm not sure where you're gonna get holy water at like midnight but you can give it a shot i'm i'm a minister i'm a minister can i will bless him oh wow okay hank tell you what I'm going to bless this coffee.
I'm a minister. Bless some water for this guy.
I will bless him. He's going to get touched later.
Oh, wow. Okay, Hank, tell you what.
I'm going to bless... I don't want you blessing.
This coffee. I don't want it.
I now consecrate this coffee water. So what...
In the name of Hank Lockwood. Last question.
Do we have any questions from the people? All right, so ask a couple questions from the people. What's up, PMT boys? Could you ask this ghost hunting fellow if he's ever been attacked by, slash possessed by, slash interacted with a ghost, or their most chilling interaction with a paranormal being? Can we have another slash in that? Yeah, those are our listeners.
So I don't think I've ever been necessarily attacked by anything. I've gotten some very negative energy thrown on me that's been very draining.
You think I've been attacked? Hell's Bar. I don't know if I'd call it an attack.
Wait, that sounds like, say what that is. Well, we were at Hell's Bar Dam in, what is it, Chattanooga? Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Tennessee. And this is an old, like, dam right on the Tennessee River, and energy's crazy there.
And there's tunnels that you have to get into to get into this dam. It's really weird.
It's like a maze. She was in one of the tunnels doing the headphone experiment and the uh blindfold i don't know i mean it's like some dark stuff that started coming through we have it's on our youtube page okay all right so check it yeah check out their youtube page supernatural uh investigation crew s.i.c in the shadows next question hank do ghosts sleep like why do they only come out at certain times of the day what else could they be doing so there's a lot of theories so we've actually seen activity during the day sometimes we'll have more activity at certain locations during the day than we would at night it kind of depends on the energy of the building I don't think they sleep I think they do run off of energy though so if there's not a lot of people around or not a going on, you're not as likely to see as frequent hauntings.
A lot of your common hauntings you get is residual energy. So it's something like you do the same thing every single day.
You get up at 8 o'clock, shower, go to work. So this ghost, after it's gone, is still doing the same exact thing.
So it's getting up. It's taking a shower.
It's going to work. so it's like residual so that's when you'll get it like sometimes in hot spots at certain times in the morning or at night or something like that because they're still doing the same exact thing because they're probably stuck they don't know they're dead yet they're stuck and i've wondered about that like if ghosts if when you're not around them if they just like kind of fade away for a while, and then the energy of having other people around kind of brings them back up.
Oh, yeah. I mean, they feed off our energy.
So we'll see that, and then we'll also see overload. So if there's too many people too much, we'll see kind of less activity.
It's like they shy away from it. Yeah.
So if you live in a house and a ghost comes out at 11 p.m. every night, that ghost is probably jerking off.
That's what he did at 11 p.m.

when he did it live,

and he could be.

I'm just saying,

like, that's the thing you've got to think about now.

That's a very specific time to name.

Well, I mean,

it's right before bedtime.

Ghost is saying.

That's when HBO goes,

NC-17.

Is that like Dream On?

Ghost reminds me of...

Cat House.

They remind me a lot of cats.

Like, cats,

they'll be around

if their one person is around, but if you have a party, they'll go hide in their little corner. Exactly.
Where nobody goes to. Okay.
All right. Next question, Hank.
Why do only human ghosts haunt the living? Why do we not see animal ghosts haunt their murderers? So we do see animal ghosts, though. Really? Yeah.
There's a theater that we go to every year in Waukegan, Illinois, called the Genesee Theater. And one of their biggest hauntings is a dog.
No way. That's spooky.
So it's an old 1900s theater. And back in the day, they used to have show dogs.
So during the old shows, the vaudeville and stuff, they have dogs in them. They keep them chained up downstairs.
So they still have, like, hooks where the dogs would be chained up down there. So under the stage, you'll hear barking and everything else.
That sucks. That's sad.
That's really sad. Wait, could a fish, hypothetically, like if somebody accidentally murdered a fish or whatever, could a fish have a ghost? Could be.
Just hope you didn't flush it down the toilet. No, we didn't.
We buried it in Canton, Ohio. Yeah, there you go.
Then put it in our freezer and then flush it. Yeah.
We flushed a couple of them. We're not fish killers.
Per se. We've had many fish, but we're not fish killers.
What is the difference between ghost ghouls and spirits? Good question. So, do you want...
I'll let you kill that one. Okay.
So ghouls are typically going to be a lot more malevolent energy, something a lot more negative. You can also kind of put that into the string of something that has the characteristics of being demonic um but not necessarily within that range it could have been uh human at one point but now it's more poltergeisty if that's a word that's totally a word now anyways um ghosts are going to be human spirits um so spirits and ghosts are kind of an interchangeable term i'd say um but they're going to be something that's like a residual haunting got it okay okay so watch out for ghouls yes okay all right last one are there good hauntings or are they always bad or is it ultimately all about the perspective of the haunted there's good ones there's definitely good ones I think one of my biggest one of my biggest interactions i've ever had with a spirit was my grandfather so i think a lot i think a lot of them are lost loved ones that might be hanging around guardian angels type thing is what i think a lot of the spirits are um hauntings just has like a negative connotation to the term when you die you want to go where you're most happy i mean that's why you have a lot of energy at like theaters and just happy places because that's where you're happy when live and why aren't you gonna to go where you're most happy.
I mean, that's why you have a lot of energy at, like, theaters and just happy places, because that's where you were happy when you were living. Why aren't you going to be happy when you're dead there? So, I mean, a lot of people, I mean, you'll get a lot of happy stuff.
Now, if you're Ghost Adventures, everything's negative and demons, and they send Aaron running everywhere. Right.
I mean, that's just... Kind of like what Hollywood did to sharks.
They're doing to ghosts. Yeah, in a way.
They scared them. In a way, I mean, they feed off the demon aspect of things.
So a lot of hauntings that we see, we try to deal with, are happy. They're happy where they are.
They're content where they are. They're either in their home or somewhere, and they're like, just leave us alone.
We're chill. Okay.
So to sum up, check them out. are the supernatural investigation crew s.i.c.

in the shadows aaron and anley if you're in the midwest they're located in northeast illinois but

if you're in the midwest you think you got a ghost they'll come out um and there are definitely

ghosts in this room right confirmed i'd say yes confirmed and uh thank you guys this was awesome

appreciate it yeah thank you guys. This was awesome.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Yeah. Love you guys.
Talking away. I don't know what I'm to say.
I'm saving away. Today's a part of the day to find you.
Shying. I'll be coming for your love, okay? Take on me.
Take me up. I'll be gone.
We're after your team.

Needless to say.

I'll all set in.

But I'll be so right away.

Further than life is okay.

Say after me.

It's more better to be safe than sorry.

Take on me. Take me home.
I'll be gone. I'm going to do

Hard things that you say Thank you. I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

I'll be good in a day.