Chris Broussard, Mt Rushmore Of Juniors And Jilly Football

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take,

Speaker 1 we have NBA insider, not just reporter, opinionist. We learned that distinction.
Chris Prousard, Brew Crew Stand Up.

Speaker 1 Very interesting discussion with the Brew Crew and go through some of his highlights.

Speaker 1 We also have Fire Fest of the Week and we have Mount Rushmore of Juniors. And on top of all that, Jilli Football is here, who's been just roasting people on Twitter left and right.

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We're in our new Cash App studio right now. Today is Friday, July 19th.

Speaker 1 I don't know where we want to start. Get excited.
I just want to say right off the bat, I noticed something when I sat down here to record the show. We just had Chris Broussard in the studio,

Speaker 1 who you'll hear in a second.

Speaker 1 Just realized that we left this little sign on the table

Speaker 1 right in front of Chris.

Speaker 1 By accident, it says PMT now three years without eating each other's asses. And you'll find out why that might be.

Speaker 1 Chris was probably pretty happy to see that, at least in the last three years, my lips have steered clear of Big Cat's rectum. I do know where to start, actually.
On the air. On the air.

Speaker 1 I want to start with a little warm-up for the show with some Dabbo Sweeney quotes. Okay, yeah.
I don't know if you saw these.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, it is football guys season because the media days for college football, they give us some of the best sweet nectar, like the pure uncut shit

Speaker 1 directly from the Moulins of Football Games. And then we'll get to the Brooks and other stuff that's going on.
But Dabo Sweeney said,

Speaker 1 here are the quotes. In 43 seconds, these are all the quotes he used.
We live modern, but we train old.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that. Fall in love with the grind.

Speaker 1 They don't put championship rings on smooth hands. You have to put the work in.
I like that too.

Speaker 1 Oh, except the kicker. Well, no, people.

Speaker 1 If you're Alabama's kicker, you've got some dirty hands because they just have you run the ball up the middle. Yeah, and

Speaker 1 ill-timed sneaks. The quality of the construction is based on the commitment of the crew.

Speaker 1 I'd also say the mix of the concrete. Like, you don't want it too watery.
But yeah, most of the concrete. Yeah, the concrete's true, but I mean, just look around this room.

Speaker 1 The construction of this room, commitment from all business Pete, hasn't really come together that well. Yeah.
Maybe Pete could go spend a couple weeks down in Clemson with Dabbo. That'd be nice.

Speaker 1 So we have Chris Roussard, Mount Rushmore, licensed to Jill.

Speaker 1 Before we do all that, though, Brooks Kepka is back, and he's going to win the British Open. He's killing it.
He's three under.

Speaker 1 He's not in the lead. Two strokes back.
But his caddy is basically cheating because he's from Port Rush, which is apparently in Northern Ireland. I learned all of this this morning.

Speaker 1 Also, Game of Thrones, one of the castles, is there, and they had your boy Stannis doing some voiceover work. So Game of Thrones still finding its way into media.
I just think it's interesting.

Speaker 1 You've got a bunch of guys parading around Northern Ireland, just lurking around there, going for long walks with big metal sticks. Seems a little too early after the whole Liam Neeson thing.

Speaker 1 Might want to give that a couple years to simmer down, but I'm looking at the leaderboard in front of him. Who's ahead of Brooks Kepka? I'm glad that you asked.
Who's ahead of Brooks Kepka? S. Lowry.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 A.

Speaker 3 Noran from Sweden.

Speaker 1 I did know that. Webb Simpson.
Give me a break. Webb

Speaker 1 Simpson. Serthioza Garthea from Ethpania.
Sergios. And he's never going to put it together in major championships.
So it looks like Brett as we say is in the catbird seat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also David called him Brett Brett Kepka Blake Kepka

Speaker 1 Do you know can I tell you guys something that's crazy that I learned yesterday Brandley Chamby

Speaker 1 He's he doesn't have an accent. I thought he was English.
He said that name to me just screams Georgia. Dude, I was like I don't know the country or the state.

Speaker 1 For some reason I thought he was English or Scottish the whole time. No, he's just a dude with the like he's got nothing.
He's just a dude with bad opinions.

Speaker 1 Well, because if you're talking about golf or like soccer and you have an English accent, I always just assume you know more than me. Yeah, Tommy Smith.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. So then I see Brandi Chamby just talking like a regular old Joe.

Speaker 1 This guy sucks. I can't believe you don't mute it when he comes on TV.
Well, I was trying to find a clip where he might have accused Brooks of doing steroids, but I couldn't really nail him.

Speaker 1 No, so he's come back around and he is trying to get on the Blake train a little bit too late. Yeah.
Sorry, buddy. That's left the station a long time ago, and you're in the dust.

Speaker 1 Had some all-time meltdowns at the British, or excuse me, at the open today. Tiger.
Tiger melted down. The course is dominating out there.

Speaker 1 David Duvall, I think, shot, what, like a 13? 13.

Speaker 1 Was that the first hole? Maurory had a quad on the first hole. Yeah, the best was, I think it was the official open maybe account said David Duvall

Speaker 1 shot a 13.

Speaker 1 Reply here, if you've ever done that, it's like, dude, do you know that everyone sucks at golf? Yeah, everyone has shot a 13. Also, I.

Speaker 3 And if you shoot a 13, you're never going to write that down.

Speaker 1 No, my name. Yeah, my name is that can't get higher than an eight.
My theory is that nobody, except for professional golfers, have ever shot a 13. Right, that's true.

Speaker 1 Because you just pick it up after a while. That's a good point.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 someone fell in the bunker. Oh,

Speaker 1 I want to get back to the guy falling in the bunker.

Speaker 1 Put a pin in it, okay? We'll circle back. Yeah, circle back.

Speaker 1 Breaking moves.

Speaker 1 Hank, what do you got? Breaking moves.

Speaker 3 My Twitter desktop just updated, and it's shook.

Speaker 1 Thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 3 I'm shook.

Speaker 3 I feel like people say this every time there's an update, but this is.

Speaker 1 It's horrendous. I have not tweeted from desktop since because I'm too scared.
I don't know. Everything moves too fast.
I even tried to do dark mode, which I don't do that usually. And then, boom.

Speaker 1 It just sucks. It sucks.
Is this a boycott?

Speaker 1 Have you had it happen? No, I'm holding up to it. Wait till you see it.
It is so bad. They made everything white, so it's like it's all the same color.
It's hard to

Speaker 1 say. It's hard to read anything.
Yeah, it's too white. It's way too white.

Speaker 3 Reminds me of

Speaker 3 it's so bad. It reminds me of a time I was working out.
I was

Speaker 3 dehydrated. I felt like I was in the desert.

Speaker 3 And then someone gave me a nice cold chocolate milk. It was delicious, and it was a delicious dessert.

Speaker 1 Are you describing the

Speaker 1 feeling? In the desert?

Speaker 3 No, I felt like I was in the desert because I was so dehydrated.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were talking about like the montage scene from the new Rocky movie. Got it.
The Apollo Creed one. That's a good one.
They're just working out like a jungle gym in the desert.

Speaker 3 But yeah, when a natural break comes to wrap up the story, and it was saying learn more, more about built with chocolate milk.com.

Speaker 1 Those are the natural break that you just found.

Speaker 3 What do you think the words were?

Speaker 1 I think the words were

Speaker 1 and desert. I think it was dessert.
How many S's were in that word, Hank? Two. Yeah, dessert.
So it wasn't desert. It was both.
They tried to give you the Hazy Hey. Okay, Hezzy Hey, whoa.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Good job. Here's a quote from.
I always, you guys learned the trick. It has two S's because you want more of it.
Uh-huh. And then I was like, well, I guess I will.

Speaker 3 What about content and content?

Speaker 1 Same word, same spelling.

Speaker 1 It's choose your own adventure. It's confusing.
So when you're writing it, you have to know that some of your readers will just say content.

Speaker 3 I'm a content creator.

Speaker 1 Yes. I'm happy.
You're both.

Speaker 3 I'm happy as a creator. I'm content.

Speaker 1 You're a content content creator and a content content creator. Nice.
That's awesome. Here's a quote from David Duvall, by the way, back to the open.

Speaker 1 You have an obligation as a professional athlete. If you play, you post your score.
Am I happy about that? Is there some embarrassment to it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But I teed off in the open and I shot 90 today. So put it on the board.
And that's from Doug Ferguson. And he says, this is solid from Duvall.

Speaker 1 So like, shout out to David Duvall for not cheating today. Yeah, for just saying, yeah, I suck, but at least I got out there.
It sucked. At least I

Speaker 1 signed my scorecard at the end and didn't say I shot an 89. Correct.
Correct.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, we had the guy fall.

Speaker 1 I didn't see that. Oh, it was awesome.
He just, he hit the ball. I don't even know who it was because everyone's, it's one of those golf tournaments where everyone has to wear a ton of layers.

Speaker 1 So at first I thought it was Jordan Speed, and I didn't even realize who it was. So I was like, I'm not even going to clip this.
But he tried to hit a bunker shot and just fell down and looked.

Speaker 1 It was one of those situations, you know, when your dog falls off the bed and you know it's embarrassed.

Speaker 1 He was very embarrassed, but he had to sit there and had to take it again because he didn't hit it out. Is that a violation?

Speaker 1 He grounded the grub. No, no, I don't think so.
He grounded his ass in a bunker. His swing just put him out of his own shoes.
Wow. Like Willie Mays at the end of his career.
Gold star.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 That's also really bad for him because he's not going to be able to clean off that sand for like the next three days. Correct.
So he's just going to play three more sandy, sandy rounds of golf.

Speaker 1 The other thing we had was I got out of jury duty. It was the best day of my life.
Getting out, worst day of my life. Have you had it yet?

Speaker 1 I've been asked to go. I just figured it was one of those situations where if you don't respond to the postcard, they just let it forget about it after a while.

Speaker 1 Shout out this show because that's how I ended up getting out of it.

Speaker 1 Not because anyone knew who I was, but I was at the end where it was, I i was a juror i was going to be a juror i was in one of the the numbered seats and there was like the backup jurors behind us and i asked to see them outside and i just told them straight up i have tofor grace tomorrow uh if if you pick me i'm just going to try to decide as quickly as possible and get out of here and they're like so you just are going to make up your mind right away i was like right away yeah i mean at least in your place you you had air conditioning true you were getting paid you were having your lunches paid for no that's a lie really yeah well

Speaker 1 it's because because you weren't on the jury yet. No, no, no.
I don't think they ever give you lunch. I saw the OJ thing on

Speaker 1 that's different, though. Where they sequestered them in a hotel.
Yeah, I think that's the topic. It goes really long.
Yeah. Yeah.
Either way, jury duty sucks. I got yelled at for dipping.

Speaker 1 I got yelled at for being on my phone, putting my feet up. It's jail.
Yeah, so you acted like this was going to be a big inconvenience from your normal day. You actually tweeted more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, while I was doing nothing. Yeah.
And I did the classic thing where I got there at 8:30 in the morning and I was like, well, I have 100% 100% battery. I'm good.

Speaker 1 And by like 9.15, I was down to like 28% battery and had to do the game for the rest of the day where I was just trying to conserve battery.

Speaker 1 Jury Duty is a great excuse, though, if you want to get out of something. Yeah, it's true because you're doing your civic duty.
Civic duty, you can't be mad at somebody for that. Yes.

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Speaker 3 First time running the show, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Yes.
Well, Dave was sick last time, so I kind of did it, too. Should we do Firefest or should we do Mount Rushmore? Let's go Fire Fest.
Okay, let's do Fire Fest. Hey, go first.

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest of the week,

Speaker 3 it was like a bajillion degrees in New York this week. It was absolutely miserable.
And I left the studio here at like 9 o'clock on Tuesday. And I got stuck in the subway for an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 And it was like no air conditioning. It was hot as fuck.

Speaker 1 I was on the train at like sixth ave waited 20 minutes for it to show up got on the train we went one stop and then we sat at the next stop for 25 minutes you were on a hot train that's just the worst is getting on a hot train in general now at some point after 20 minutes did you look around and was there one person who had like deputized themselves as train captain who started trying to open the windows all that stuff because that there's usually one person that stands up and like takes charge way too early no the doors were open so it was like we we were waiting in the station for a long time it showed up it went one stop and then the doors opened and just stayed there for like 25 more minutes and then on the way once i got back into brooklyn a girl like passed out it was fucked oh i definitely would have pretended to pass out you can make some money would you have were you asked to help her i was i was like chest to chest with her basically thankfully she was wait she passed out because you're breath No, she, I mean, she passed out because she was hot.

Speaker 1 But you were chest to chest with her. Wait, and then she passed out.
I can't judge her by her looks. She was overheated.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You were chest to chest with her, and then boom, next thing you know, she's on the ground.

Speaker 3 No, I wasn't chest to chest with her, but she was like two people away from me. But she was, I was, like, looking at her, and she all of a sudden just got dehydrated and like passed out.

Speaker 3 I was like, oh my God, is this girl? Like, what the fuck just happened?

Speaker 1 Living in the city, baby. Love this place in the summer.
Now, did you do anything to help?

Speaker 3 Yeah, she, like, fell on me. I lifted her up, and, like, a guy got up.
We put her, sat her down. She was with her boyfriend.
Her boyfriend was like splashing water in her face.

Speaker 1 And then she

Speaker 3 thankfully came back because it was getting to that point where I was like, if she's still, like, unconscious by the time I get to my stop, I probably have to stay and like help her.

Speaker 1 No, and be like the Good Samaritan. I've been conscious.

Speaker 3 But thankfully, thankfully, by the time we got to my stop, she was awake and back to normal.

Speaker 1 Hank, you saved her life. You pulled it.
If you were Tim Tebow and this happened on a train with him, the headlines in the next video would be Tim Tebow saves women's life on train. Yes.

Speaker 1 So Hank, thank you for saving a life. That's very big of you.

Speaker 3 During a fire fest, no less.

Speaker 1 You are a hero.

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, it is thrilling to be in that situation. I had one similar to that where I was like the fifth guy, though, who showed up.
I just handed the person my Gatorade and left.

Speaker 1 That's pretty nice. Yeah.
I had one in college in my human sexuality class. The lady behind me had a seizure in the middle of

Speaker 1 her tongue and so i rip it out as hard as you could she started to pass out what you're supposed to do i went behind her and i was like let me get that tongue yeah let me hold that and let me hold that tongue real quick and then fortunately it was a special we were doing like a class that day on french kissing wait whoa hold on back up in college yeah you took a sexuality class human sexuality class in college yeah it was basically

Speaker 1 it was basically like it goes here This is where you put it. Why in college? Because I...
You buried the lead here with the seizure girl. You took a sexuality class in college? It was great.

Speaker 1 We watched porn.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's weird. I took the class in college because I had a lot of questions about the human body.
So do you save the woman's life or is she dead? No, I saved her life. Oh, okay, good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know. She might be dead now.
Right, because you just haven't kept up with it. But retroactively, I saved her life that day.
She was alive for at least 24 hours after that.

Speaker 1 The campus was talking about me that day. They're like, hey, did you hear about this kid that had a girl that had a seizure behind him? He grabbed her tongue and

Speaker 1 then, yeah, walked around the classroom. He dogwalked her with her tongue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought the worst part was when you're in a situation like that, especially if you've never been around that before, and you hear somebody like gargling behind you,

Speaker 1 you don't know how to react. Well, you were in a sexuality class.
I was a sexual, yeah, so you know, you know, you never know what somebody's choking on in that class. It could be something else.

Speaker 1 Um, so she was like gargling, and then I turned around and I, like, I she fell out of her chair a little bit, and I grabbed her, and then she was like, Oh, I'm fine, this happens all the time.

Speaker 1 And then she just went back to the back to her seat, and then we resumed class like everything was fine. Oh, man.
Um, all right, you you got your fire fest? Yeah, my fire fest of the week is

Speaker 1 I kept myself up two nights ago because I was watching Seinfeld as I was trying to fall asleep, and the thought entered my brain: how old are the characters on Seinfeld?

Speaker 1 How old are they supposed to be on the show? And it blew my mind trying to figure out how old they're supposed to be. Because growing up,

Speaker 1 I just thought they were adults, right? And then I started thinking Jason Alexander and Jerry Seinfeld were probably my age. Yeah, they're in their mid-30s.

Speaker 1 When they shut down, they're all in their mid-30s? Yeah. Are some people younger? No, I think they're in the middle of the middle.

Speaker 1 Kramer does not look like he's in his mid-30s. I think they're all

Speaker 1 early to mid-30s. Just because Michael Richards grew up in the Jim Crow South does not mean that he's in his mid-30s.

Speaker 1 What part of this would blow your mind? Like, what was you...

Speaker 1 What was the part?

Speaker 1 Because if you told me 28 to 40, I'd be like, yeah, sure. I would say, yeah, I would say like

Speaker 1 40s, early 40s, because I don't want to imagine myself as being the same age as a second. That's the part.
Not the part of them. That's what freaked me out.

Speaker 1 Not the part of not knowing their age, because I feel like their age is very agreed upon. No, I think you are their age.
I don't think that it is agreed upon. I think it definitely is.

Speaker 1 No, how old are they? They're in their mid-30s. Just mid-30s.
Yeah. Somewhere in their mid-30s.
Yeah, somewhere in this. Yeah, exactly.
They're anywhere.

Speaker 1 When you hit your 30s, you could just be anywhere. I don't know about that.
What do you think, Hank? How old do you think they are?

Speaker 3 Low to mid-30s.

Speaker 1 Probably younger than you now. Yeah, that's he.
And then that's the thing.

Speaker 3 the fucking Kramer's probably like five or six years older.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the part of the fuck you up not what age they are because I feel like that's pretty standard Kramer's in the third one. Yeah, they're in their 30s.
I think Kramer's in their 40s.

Speaker 1 Kramer's in his 40s. I thought for a second George might be in his late 20s.
He just looks old because of the baldness. No, I think they're just all in their 30s.
It blew my mind. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And then I tried to look it up online. And what do they say? Then nobody knows.
Nobody knows a real answer to it. The only thing I know for sure is I will always think that they're older than me.

Speaker 1 I will never reach a point in my life. Yeah, I I mean, this is Seinfeld is older than me.
I will always, like, I could be 50 years old. I'll be like, oh, Jerry was in his 60s.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So your Fire Fest is getting old.

Speaker 1 My Firefest is getting old.

Speaker 1 So don't blame it on Seinfeld. No, I'm blaming it a little bit on Seinfeld.
They never had a birthday party. And they tried to do a Simpsons thing where the characters didn't age at all.

Speaker 1 I don't recall a single birthday party in that show for one of the main characters. I don't know.
They had Christmases occasionally, but I don't know. Nobody ever turned a different age.

Speaker 1 They never said it.

Speaker 1 It really, it kept me up for about an hour, an hour and a half. I was just going to get it.
I think you were just getting old.

Speaker 1 I think you're just coming to grips with the fact that you're getting old. I don't like it, whatever it is.
Yeah, you are. It sucks, but you're there.

Speaker 1 You've always been about a day behind me in maturity. I know.

Speaker 1 Thank you for

Speaker 1 today and yesterday. I was good.

Speaker 1 I've been good since Monday. Okay, fuck.
With all this shit. I'm a late bloomer, I guess.
All right, my Firefest. I have to just preface this

Speaker 1 to my dad, who's probably listening, and also to Mike Florio, who might be listening. Do not fucking text me after I say what I'm about to say, because I think both of them will.

Speaker 1 I have been peeing a little bit of blood. Okay.
So it sucks. I don't know what to do about it.
I mean, it happens. I pee blood before, too.
All right, cool. It's fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you looking at me like that, Hank? Should I go to the doctor? No, both of them are going to text me and be like, go to the doctor. It's not a joke.
You probably.

Speaker 1 But it starts in the morning and then it's gone by the time the morning's over. Once I get a little liquid in my system, no more blood.

Speaker 3 Are you going to feel like a regular pee?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's just like...

Speaker 1 out of me the other day on Wednesday morning because it was like, it looked like

Speaker 1 it looked like the shit that comes out of the

Speaker 1 game Ghostbusters. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I've been watching Stranger Things, so maybe that's what it is. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I peed blood a few times. Yeah.
I ate a couple olives on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 I think that might have something to do with it. That might be it.
You eat a couple olives. You don't know what's going to happen to your body.
It's just too hot out, I think. That too.

Speaker 1 I think maybe it's too high. Why are you looking at me like that, Hank? I said, don't shame me.
There's no football. Your body is very confused right now.

Speaker 1 I looked up the best was I looked it up, and there's like a bunch of different things. And the first one is the rhabdo.
When you work out so hard, your muscles start.

Speaker 1 I was like, that's probably not me. Then it turns brown.
It's like a dark, that's a different thing. I'm probably okay.
Maybe it's like that horror movie where the walls start bleeding blood

Speaker 1 as an indication to like get out of the house. Maybe your dick is just saying like, quit having babies.
Yeah. Quit shooting sperm out of me because I'm going to trickle blood into everything.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's one of those minor inconveniences that we're going to monitor. You're on your period.
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 All right, maybe I'll sync up tomorrow because I'm a day younger than you.

Speaker 1 If you start peeing blood, Hank is judging me still. Yeah, Hank.
You've never pee blood in your life. I've never got you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 So, in all seriousness, the times that it's happened to me, it's stopped within about a day or two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then I looked it up because if we're being in the trust tree here, this might have happened like a couple months ago, too.

Speaker 1 But it said if it happens, you should see a doctor right away, even if it goes away. No, I don't buy that.
That happened to me in my mid and late 20s. I'm going to try to get a doctor, though.

Speaker 1 That's one thing I've got. Now you're older than Seinfeld.
Yeah, now you are very much older than Seinfeld. Yeah.
Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 Maybe you got kidney stones. That would be

Speaker 1 painful.

Speaker 1 If you passed a kidney stone on the bottom. I also had diarrhea right before, so I figured it's just like, it like transferred.
Yeah, just it took a left when it should have taken a right.

Speaker 1 You see what I'm saying, Hank?

Speaker 1 If we were to power rank the holes that you don't want blood to come out of, I feel like dick is number two. Like, nose, everyone has a bloody nose from time to time.
I've never had one.

Speaker 1 Especially if you're a drug guy like Hank. I've never had one.
You never had a bloody nose? Never in my life. I've said this before.
You've never broken your nose or not. I've gotten

Speaker 1 my nose very, very hard, and I literally just cannot bleed out of my nose. That's weird that you've never broken it.
It's crazy. Anyway, not a problem if you bleed out of your nose.

Speaker 1 If you bleed out of your dick, I don't think that's an issue. If you bleed out of your mouth, usually not an issue.
Eyes would be when we start to get to eyes, ears, and well, I've

Speaker 1 there's been butt blood. Yeah, of course there has.
All right, let's do Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of juniors.

Speaker 1 Who is starting?

Speaker 1 It's me.

Speaker 1 Hank. Okay, so Hank, then me.
Here we go, Hank. That was quick.

Speaker 1 We had

Speaker 3 15 sports businesses. We've done three, so it's kind of

Speaker 1 that just blew my mind. The fact that we are now in a rotation that, like,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 But we did do two. Right.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 Ken Griffey Jr., number one.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good choice.
Good pick. Basic choice.
The bacon of juniors.

Speaker 1 I'll go with junior soprano, number two. Fuck.

Speaker 1 What are you about to say?

Speaker 4 What are you about to say?

Speaker 1 We don't get contentious anymore, but no PFT, let him go. What are you about to fucking say you're not going to be able to do that?

Speaker 1 But we don't get contentious.

Speaker 1 He didn't even eat pussy.

Speaker 1 That's very true.

Speaker 1 And he shot Tony.

Speaker 4 No, he did eat pussy.

Speaker 1 Oh, true. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he was pussy king. Yeah.
Yeah, and then he shot Tony, and then he died of dementia.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 My first pick is going to be

Speaker 1 that blew Hank's mind because he didn't even get to that part. Martin Luther King Jr.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Yeah.
Did you pander much? No, I think that's just a solid, solid pick. Okay.
It'd be a shame if racists didn't vote for my Mount Russell.

Speaker 1 What's your second pick? My second is going to be:

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with.

Speaker 1 This is a big one.

Speaker 1 Mel Kuiper Jr. Okay.

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go with my second pick.

Speaker 1 I'll go Dale Earnhardt Jr. Junior's junior.
Okay. He feels like a junior.
That's we should have that discussion after too, because there's definitely people who are like, that's junior. Yep.

Speaker 1 Because I actually have some people who are juniors, but we don't know that they're juniors, which I don't think counts as junior.

Speaker 3 Okay. Okay.
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got me. You're feeling that vibe.

Speaker 3 I will go with Birdman Jr. Okay.
Aka Lil Wayne.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 And Cal Ripken Jr.

Speaker 1 Good one, good one. Hank, good one.
All right. I'll go with.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Maybe a contentious one.

Speaker 1 Do you guys like Junior Mints? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had that on my list, too. Yeah.
Yeah. I love Junior Mints.
Also, Junior Mints feels like you can't. The one thing I like about Junior Mints, I don't think you can get it everywhere.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah, it's mostly like a movie theater. Yeah.
It's a vending machine snack. Right, exactly.
It's not. I like that.
I've never seen junior mints stocked in a grocery store.

Speaker 1 Right, you go into like even a liquor store, you can get a Snickers bar. You know what I mean? It's just too easy to get.
I like the fact you got to work a little for your junior mints.

Speaker 1 And it's like eating your candy and brushing your teeth all at once. You don't have to take care of those later.
Only problem is when they get clumped up. That sucks.
That's fine. Just bonus mint.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Okay,

Speaker 1 Hank is looking at me. He's giving me staring daggers.

Speaker 1 You're giving me eyes.

Speaker 1 You look look like Junior Soprano, and I'm a big pussy. You just give me those eyes.
Well, he ordered Big Pussy to be killed. No, that was Tony.
But he had a say in it. He was acting boss.
True.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 My next

Speaker 1 bad boss.

Speaker 1 What do you mean he was a bad boss? No, he's old school. He was a name only.

Speaker 1 He was old school, Hank. You wouldn't understand anything about that.

Speaker 1 My next junior is going to be. I'm going to go with a value pick on this one.
I'm going to go with George Foreman's Junior because there are like five of them. He's got five sons, all named George.

Speaker 1 But they they can't all be junior. I think they are.
I don't think that's how it works. I think you only have one junior.
They're all junior. I don't think that's how it works.
They have nicknames.

Speaker 1 Okay. But they're all George.
But can you do multiple juniors? George Foreman's Junior. Okay.
My next one.

Speaker 1 Is that not accurate? No, I don't want all of them.

Speaker 1 If they're not all juniors, I don't want all of them. But they're all named George.
Yeah, they all are all named George. We'll have to go to the tape afterwards.
But go ahead. Oh, wait, no.

Speaker 1 Some of them are three, four, five. Okay.

Speaker 1 Strict that from the record.

Speaker 1 No. Wait.
Nope. Well, do we strike it from the record? Yeah, my hands not off the piece.
My hands are not off the piece yet. It's still my turn.
It's still my turn.

Speaker 1 So instead, I'm going to sub that one out. I'm going to go with Junior the Movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Yep. Where he gets pregnant and has a kid.

Speaker 1 I thought of that, but then I realized that we're fucking old.

Speaker 1 But I mean, it translates to anybody. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He's like 104. And he's pregnant.

Speaker 3 I literally had Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen that many Arnold Schwarzeneggers.

Speaker 1 I literally thought of it because I obviously remember it as a kid, and then I put my brain in Hank's head, and I was like, he's going to be like, what?

Speaker 1 Wait, so you're pandering to a younger audience. No, no, no, no.
Admitted pandering. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 That's on tap.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're pandering to the audience. I'm trying to be relatable to our audience.
Oh, well, that's a big difference. That's all.
Very pandering. There's a big difference.
Very pandering.

Speaker 1 The junior movie still stands. Torce Negro's pick.
No, it stands. I like it.
Right. He's a pick.
I like it as a pick. And you should have put it on your mouth rush.
A lot of people don't know.

Speaker 1 My next one is Coach O. Ed Oseron, Petit Bebe.

Speaker 1 He is a junior. Are you sure he's officially a junior? Yes, he's a junior.
Okay. Did you check it? Yes, Ed Oseron Jr.
Did you double-check it? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Did you triple-check it? No. Okay.
Pandering, because

Speaker 1 everyone said my coach outpick last week on Wednesday was awesome. All right.
My last one is...

Speaker 1 You want to think I'm pandering? This is the anti-pander pick.

Speaker 1 Bronnie James Jr. I'm going to squat on that one.
I'm going to buy that stock. What do you think about that, Hank?

Speaker 3 I think Mount Rushmore is a mountain that was built after great people.

Speaker 1 He is great.

Speaker 1 Have you seen his highlight tape?

Speaker 3 He's like a 16-year-old on a mountain that's about people that are accomplished.

Speaker 1 Have you seen his highlight tape?

Speaker 3 You are forgetting that this is all about a mountain of greatness.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know. This is an anti-LeBroni James podcast.
Future greatness. I still went with Brownie James Jr.

Speaker 3 Plus, he's going to be a bust.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Damn.
Well, he's already an alcoholic.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a pandering pick.

Speaker 3 I will go with my last one.

Speaker 3 I'm torn. I'm very torn.
Dargo Jr. Say out.

Speaker 1 Okay. Ooh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 I like that. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 He had some issues, but he was a great tackler.

Speaker 1 What do we got for things that got left off? Junior Cheesecake? Junior Cheesecakes.

Speaker 3 I was going to just say a college junior.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had summer break after your junior year of college. That's a great break.
That is a good break. What about Carl's Jr.? You've just studied human sexuality.

Speaker 1 You're ready to show off your new moves.

Speaker 1 Do you guys like Carl's Jr.? Carl's Jr. is pretty good.
I'm more of a Hardee's guy. Good commercials.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What about Robert Downey Jr.? That's a good

Speaker 1 Iron Man. Haven't seen it, it, but I heard it's good.

Speaker 3 What would you have said if I said J.R. Smith?

Speaker 1 Because it's like Jr. I would have allowed it.
I would have allowed it.

Speaker 1 What about Freddie Prince Jr.?

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. He used to be a hit.
Cuba Gooding Jr. Here are some juniors that I got that you wouldn't know are juniors.
Will Smith. He's a junior.
Didn't know that. Snoop Dogg.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a junior. Perez Hilton Jr.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah, that's huge.
That's huge. Perez Hilton.
Who are all the people who are, you know, into celebrity gossip? That's a huge one.

Speaker 1 What else? Any others? Trying to think if we've

Speaker 1 topical. Only has eight home runs.

Speaker 1 Do we have any juniors that have been on this podcast?

Speaker 1 Kyle Ripken? Kyle Ripken Jr. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Dalehart Jr.

Speaker 1 Anyone that we haven't named?

Speaker 1 No. I don't think so.
I don't think so. I think that's it.
Kareem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Oh, Ice Cube.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has a junior, right? I thought he was.

Speaker 1 I think he has a junior. O'Shea Jackson Jr.
Okay. Sammy Davis Jr.
Oh.

Speaker 1 That one hangs out.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview with Chris Brissard Jr.

Speaker 1 Do you think he has a junior? No, he's not a junior. No, he's not.
That would have been awesome. No, he wouldn't let himself be named after another man.
That's true.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Chris Broussard.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is the co-host of the Odd Couple radio show with Rob Parker on Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday, 4 to 7 p.m.
Pacific time. He's on FS1.

Speaker 1 He's on First Things First. He's on The Herd with Colin Coward.
And also

Speaker 1 he is president and founder of the Brew Crew, my fan club that I made for you. It is Chris Broussard.

Speaker 4 Thank you for coming. It's great to be here, man.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
Well, I want to actually start there. Are you aware of the brew crew, the fan club? I've heard of it.

Speaker 4 I've seen a reference to it online or something, but I don't really know.

Speaker 4 I don't know if it's trying to diss me.

Speaker 1 Well, it kind of evolved. It's one of these.

Speaker 1 It's evolved. It's evolved.
It's a little.

Speaker 1 You can look at it whichever way you'd like to. I think that you are an underrated genius

Speaker 1 in the world of sports media, and sometimes you get things wrong, but I don't think that that's what matters. I think entertaining people and being part of the story is more important.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, sometimes you get things wrong. That doesn't matter.
The brew crew still rides. Right.
Let's start the day.

Speaker 4 No, I don't define myself as a newsbreaker. And I'm not even a newsbreaker anymore.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's why one reason I left ESPN was because they wanted to keep me in a news-breaking role. And I wanted opinion.

Speaker 4 and analysis. You know, I wanted that role.
It's kind of like the difference, if you remember newspapers,

Speaker 4 being a beat writer and a columnist. But you know, like a beat writer, you got to report and try to break stories, whereas a columnist, you just write your opinion.

Speaker 4 And that's kind of the role I'm in now on TV and radio.

Speaker 1 So do you think that it's kind of unfair? Because you transitioned. Jalen Rose, let's start with the Kawhi stuff because everyone got that wrong.
Jalen Rose got it wrong. He said, I got it wrong.

Speaker 1 He came out and said, I got it wrong. Do you think it's people treat you differently because you used to be a reporter and are now an opinionist?

Speaker 1 And maybe they haven't, like, maybe we need to make an official announcement right now. Chris Richard is not just a reporter anymore.

Speaker 4 I do think that's some of it. I do think people tend to think of it.
Because look, I'm not saying I would have broken the Kawhi story, but I wasn't trying. Right.
You know, I mean, I had been on shows

Speaker 4 weeks leading up to the free agency like, man, I'm glad I don't have to chase the news. Like, y'all, the reporters now, I can just talk about it when it happens.

Speaker 4 But I was, you know, I still have connections within the league. I talk to people.
And so I was getting info. So I tweeted out a little stuff I was getting.

Speaker 4 And yeah, and I think there's many reasons that people jump on me.

Speaker 4 I think some people don't agree with my social views necessarily as a Christian. So I think that some people would want to ride me for that.

Speaker 4 And then I also think, like you said, some people still think of me as that strict reporter, not realizing that I moved into a different role.

Speaker 1 So you think that you get more crap because you're a Christian, because of your beliefs?

Speaker 4 I think some of it.

Speaker 1 You think that makes you a target?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, you don't believe in gay marriage.
That's part of it, right?

Speaker 4 Right. I mean, and look, as a Christian, I mean, I'm a Bible-believing Christian.
So there's a lot of things I don't believe in. You know, I mean,

Speaker 4 I don't agree with, no, it's not that. I don't agree with premarital sex.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 I don't agree with adultery.

Speaker 1 That might be out of time.

Speaker 4 I don't agree with homosexuality. So that's, you know, that's living as a Christian.
I don't make the rules. I just try to follow the rules that God said according to the Bible.

Speaker 4 And then some people don't agree with that. And then they jump on me.
I think mainly for, like you said, this gay marriage and stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Have you softened a little bit on that? Because I know it was a little bit more hard line before, but I mean, no, I mean, it's not on me to soften.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm not my Lord. Jesus Christ is my Lord.
So he hasn't softened. You know, look, I don't have a problem with...

Speaker 4 homosexuals or I do my show with Rob Parker who part of our whole intro is that he goes to strip clubs right which I don't agree with but that's my boy we friends I mean I don't want to sound cliche.

Speaker 4 I've had homosexuals at my house that are friends, and we're cool. So it's not a matter of me not being able to get along with anybody and be friendly with people.
I may not agree with your lifestyle.

Speaker 1 You may not agree with mine, but we can still be cool.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I don't expect everybody to agree with my beliefs.

Speaker 4 And I don't think everybody should expect me to agree with their beliefs either, but we can still be civil and treat each other with respect and be friends.

Speaker 1 You're on a pro-gay podcast right now. We're a pro-gay podcast.
Exactly.

Speaker 4 And I mean, and I don't know if you'd want to, but we can hang out afterwards and go kick it.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 4 So I have no problem with

Speaker 1 hang sesh. Yeah.
You name it. Brew crew meetup.
We're in. Yeah.
So, I mean, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 So you've kind of adopted the mindset, like, you're not for gay marriage, and so you're going to show that by not getting gay married.

Speaker 1 But people around you, if they get married to somebody, like then that's fine, in your opinion. If they, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, look, everybody has the right to do what they want to do.

Speaker 4 Tolerance is tolerance.

Speaker 4 And just like I may tolerate something I don't agree with, somebody else can tolerate something

Speaker 4 if they don't agree with me. Okay.

Speaker 4 I mean, we're supposed to be a pluralistic society. So that's what pluralism is.

Speaker 1 We're not going to agree on everything as a society.

Speaker 1 That's just a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 But I do think that you shouldn't be able to tell somebody what they can and can't do in terms of marrying somebody that they love in like a state ceremony.

Speaker 1 Like, religion and state is a little bit different.

Speaker 1 They don't have to do it in a church if they don't want to. If they want to get married in front of a court clerk, I say absolutely 100%.

Speaker 1 And I don't see where the crossover where that would be with religion. It's like, let's make that totally separate.
They can still get all the rights.

Speaker 1 They can get, you know, if their loved one passes away, then they're entitled to inheritance or they can make end-of-life decisions for someone they spent their whole life with. That sort of thing.

Speaker 1 I think we could probably agree that in that context, gay marriage is probably a positive thing.

Speaker 4 Well, and I think, like you said, if you want to separate the church and the religion, then the state shouldn't force or the government shouldn't force religions, not just Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever it may be, Islamic, shouldn't force religions to have to go against their beliefs either.

Speaker 4 You see what I'm saying? So,

Speaker 4 again, tolerance goes both ways.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go back to the NBA. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think we're all on the same page. Again, you're on a pro-gay podcast.
So what more can you ask, right?

Speaker 1 Not that either of us are gay, but we are. We have pro-sex.
We're anti-Nazi. We have a lot of beliefs that are very contradictory.

Speaker 4 I'm anti-Nazi.

Speaker 1 Okay, you go. Yo, welcome.

Speaker 1 We agree.

Speaker 4 I'm anti-racist.

Speaker 1 We agree. Boom.
We're pro-Blake on this podcast, too.

Speaker 1 Just Blakes in general. All right.
So the Kawhi stuff. Did you see? Can we start? Did you clap back at all at the, what's the guy's name in Canada? Dan, whatever.
Oh, I've got the quote right here.

Speaker 1 Let's clap back. So I want to.
That was bullshit by him. I wanted it.
It was Jay Onray. That was was bullshit.

Speaker 1 I want to know if it's on site between you and Jay Onray because he took on the entire brew crew.

Speaker 1 He said Chris Broussard, who worked at Fox and is the biggest fucking fraud in the history of sports media ever. Now, Jay apparently didn't get the memo that you're not a newsbreaker.

Speaker 1 You're an analyst.

Speaker 4 First of all, I did see it.

Speaker 4 And I had to Google Jay first.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 I mean, just real talk. You're not going to sit up here and laugh.
Same. I didn't know who Dan was.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know Jay and Dan.

Speaker 4 So I had to Google him to find out who he was. And then I laughed because to me, it was like somebody in the G-League criticizing Damian Lillard.
Damian Lillard Jay Ball. Damian.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I'm LeBron. I'm Brewer, so I'll go along with it.
You're Dame.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying, like,

Speaker 4 Jay Onrate, is that his name?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 He had a cup of, as my partner, Rob Parker, would say, he had a cup of coffee and a sweet roll in the majors. He was at Fox Sports One four years, I believe.
Yep.

Speaker 4 And he got demoted back to double lay ball.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 He went from the NFL to arena football. I'm not even going to touch the CFL like that.
But he went from, you know,

Speaker 4 the NBA to the G League.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I'm like, get in the majors and stick before you criticize.

Speaker 1 I mean, real talk.

Speaker 4 Like, I've been in the majors for over 20 years. I worked at the New York Times for six years.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Won awards for my coverage of the New York Knicks. You know, won awards for my, I covered the Nets, the Knicks, and the NBA.
Went to ESP in the magazine, wrote for 12 years.

Speaker 4 Won awards for feature stories I wrote there. Transferred or morphed into television and radio and have never been fired, never had my contract not be renewed.

Speaker 4 And so I'm in the majors and I've been here for more than two decades. You spent four years there and got demoted.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 4 So you're criticizing me. My career cannot be defined by breaking transactions or missing out on transactions, making a few mistakes about transactions.

Speaker 4 Like I said, I'm proud of the work I did at the New York Times, ESPN the magazine, ESPN on television, and now Fox. And the irony is that Jay Onrate,

Speaker 4 in trying to critique me for getting something wrong, he got two things wrong. He said ESPN kicked me out.
ESPN didn't kick me out.

Speaker 4 ESPN offered me a multi-year contract and was surprised when I turned it down and went to Fox. He said Fox kicked me out.
As you said, I'm still at Fox.

Speaker 4 In fact, Fox kicked him out and didn't renew. And this is just truth.

Speaker 1 I'm not even trying to get

Speaker 4 a pissing contest with him. Fox did not renew his contract.
And I think his ire with me stems from two things. One, bitterness that Fox Sports One didn't bring him back.
Yep. Okay.

Speaker 4 And two,

Speaker 4 during the playoffs, I called Canada soft. I said, Canada is soft, the Raptors are soft, and Drake is soft.
That's when they were down 2-1 to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 The last one is

Speaker 1 empirically correct.

Speaker 1 And I think Drake is an awesome rapper. This is a dope and you are definitely an opinionist now.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 That's a great question.

Speaker 4 All of Canada jumped on me.

Speaker 1 All of Canada jumped on me. Rightfully so.
But here, here.

Speaker 4 And I'll apologize. Canada's not soft.
Drake is not soft. And the Raptors are not soft.
But Jay Onright is soft. Ooh.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so what you just said makes a lot of sense. And I liked it because I feel like you don't stick up for yourself when people do that.
And maybe it's just the type of guy you are.

Speaker 1 But I also, there's an element, when you get something wrong, do you ever come out and say, like, I like Jalen Rose came out and was like, I was wrong about Kawhi. Have you done that?

Speaker 1 Because I think that would soften a little bit more people. I'm so sorry about Kawhi.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I sent out

Speaker 4 an Instagram and Twitter video and said, you know, I got it wrong. I own it.

Speaker 1 I owned it. See, I don't understand why, but when people do that,

Speaker 1 especially if you're not a reporter, you're not pretending to be Woge. If you get it wrong and you say you got it wrong and you're like, hey, hand up, I got it wrong.
I think it's fair. It's a hard.

Speaker 1 The one thing I will not begrudge, like I said this even when Jalen Rose said he got it wrong. You guys do have to go on TV and say something interesting every single day for hours a day.

Speaker 1 So what would be the interesting thing to say? I don't know where Kawhi is going. Like you can't go on TV and say no one knows where Kawhi is going.
That's not interesting.

Speaker 1 If you're hearing something and

Speaker 1 you think it's real, you got to talk about it.

Speaker 4 Well, and also a lot of times stuff is fluid. You know, I still believe that had the Clippers not been able to pull off the deal for Paul George, Kawhi would have joined the Lakers.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 4 I don't think he wanted to be. Now, I may be wrong.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I don't think he wanted to live anymore in Toronto. Nothing against the Raptors, but just the cities from Southern California.
I think he wanted to be in SoCal, but he also wanted a second star.

Speaker 4 He didn't want to have to try to carry a team again as the only star, with all due respect to his teammates in Toronto. And so I think that's why he was thinking about going to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 But then once the Clippers got that second star, it was a no-brainer. And look, initially, Steve Ballmer didn't want to give up as much as they were giving up.

Speaker 4 And then finally, late Friday, that Friday night, he decided, all right, let's go all in. And the deal was made.
And then it was an easy decision for Kawhi. And I think it was the right decision.

Speaker 4 I'm glad because it's much better for sports fans.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Yeah, I think so, too.
So now we've got LA with LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Paul George and Kawhi on the Clippers.

Speaker 1 Who would you say has the advantage going into next year? Like, I'm interested to see how those matchups shake out because you never really know until they're on the court.

Speaker 1 But from your perspective, not as an insider, but as an opinion guy and an analyst, how do you think that's going to shake out?

Speaker 4 I think the best duo is LeBron and Anthony Davis. But I think the Clippers are the better team right now, you know, because three reasons.
One, their pieces fit together.

Speaker 4 Like Kawhi and Paul George are going to be dropped into that. system and fit seamlessly.
And all the role players, Lou Williams, Montrez Harrell, Landry Chomet,

Speaker 4 they all know their roles. And there's going to be no problem.
When we look at the Lakers, we see questions all over.

Speaker 4 What if DeMarcus Cousins doesn't start or doesn't finish games? Is he going to be happy? What if Kyle Kuzma doesn't start or finish? Is he going to be happy?

Speaker 4 Frank Vogel, when we know if LeBron had his drothers, Ty Lou would be the coach. Maybe Jason Kidd is his second choice, and he's an assistant right there.
So how's that going to work out?

Speaker 4 So there are a lot of questions with the Lakers. Clippers, the fit is right.
The chemistry will be right.

Speaker 4 Defensively, they're going to be tenacious with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, arguably the two best wing defenders in the league.

Speaker 4 And then Patrick Beverly, probably the best point guard defender at the point of attack. And then the coaching, Doc Rivers versus Frank Vogel.

Speaker 4 As I said, there's a lot of questions surrounding the Lakers coaching staff. So for all those reasons, I think the Clippers have the advantage, but it's close.

Speaker 4 I think those are the two best teams in the league.

Speaker 4 And I think that, you know, we have to see how it comes together for the Lakers. But if it comes together well, I think they could win the championship.

Speaker 4 I think the Lakers will win it within the next two years.

Speaker 1 I was going to say that. Over-under LeBron James championships for his career, four and a half.

Speaker 4 I would go under. I think he wins one more.

Speaker 1 One more? One more.

Speaker 1 Is there any truth to the fact that a lot of guys don't actually like to play with LeBron James because he will get the credit in the event of a win, and if the team loses, it's like, oh, LeBron did everything that he could.

Speaker 1 He didn't have the support around him.

Speaker 4 I think it depends.

Speaker 4 First of all, role players definitely want to play with him.

Speaker 4 You look at Miami, Shane Badier, and older Ray Allen, Mike Miller. You know, guys have taken less money.
Even Cleveland, when he went back there, guys have taken less money to play with LeBron.

Speaker 4 And this year, once they wanted to sign up to veterans for the veteran minimum, all of them went.

Speaker 4 So role players, a guy that needs somebody to create your stuff, they can just catch and shoot or they're defenders or they can catch it at the rim, Javel McGee and score.

Speaker 4 They love playing with LeBron because he's going to make it easier for them.

Speaker 4 Stars are the question. And that depends on the star.

Speaker 4 I love it that if I'm a Kawhi Leonard, I was saying this, even as I'm saying he was going to go to the Lakers, in my mind, I was like, all season I was saying he's going to the Clippers.

Speaker 4 Because if you win a championship with your own team, why in the world would you go to somebody else's team? So it didn't make sense to me, but I was just being told it and hearing it.

Speaker 4 So I was saying he's going to the Lakers. But if you're a star and you, I respect that you want your own team.
And so some guys who want their own team aren't going to play with LeBron.

Speaker 4 But there are other stars that will. Anthony Davis.
Anthony Davis risked his image, his public image,

Speaker 4 took less money to go play with LeBron. So it just depends on the circumstance.

Speaker 1 Where are we at with Kevin Durant?

Speaker 1 As far as

Speaker 1 our relationship?

Speaker 1 He's a future guest of ours, we think.

Speaker 4 Are you making inroads in that?

Speaker 1 We've had a story. I'll put it this way.
We've been texting with him. Or as you would put it in, DMing.

Speaker 1 Is there a big difference? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 See, I didn't know the difference. That's why I say DM.

Speaker 1 Frankly, I think it's unnatural that a man would DM with another man.

Speaker 4 If it makes it any better, he reached out to me, I think, that time.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 So I, this is why we're going to get into more of my brew crew, why I'm the leader of the brew crew, but this was a vintage brew crew when you're like, we've been texting,

Speaker 1 but you've been DMing. That's just you have a little bit of extra, like, hey, you don't know where the target is.
You guys figure it out. So, I like that by you.

Speaker 1 Are you guys cool?

Speaker 4 We haven't talked since then.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing with KD.

Speaker 4 He goes back at

Speaker 4 so many media members, including ex-players.

Speaker 4 Like, when they say something about him, he will go back at them. I'm not going to name names.
He listens to everybody.

Speaker 4 Katino Mobley said he did, but I know there's other players that he's gone back at immediately. And so I assume when I see him, it'll be all love.
I mean, I got no problem with him.

Speaker 1 And even in our DMing, as I said on Undisputed, well, it was DMing. Yeah, whatever.
You could say whatever you want. We

Speaker 4 go back at, we were going back at each other. You know, he was critical of me, he's called me names.
Then I'll go back, I won't call him names, but I'll go back and explain what I was saying.

Speaker 4 And we have a long debate. And what's happened with us in the past is that we've been able to come to an understanding because we do share, as I said on Undisputed, he's a Christian as well.

Speaker 4 So that common faith has enabled us to always be able to let cooler heads prevail and come to an agreement. So hopefully that'll be the case when I see him next time.

Speaker 1 Do you think so?

Speaker 1 The reason I started texting with him, DMing, whatever, was I just did an Instagram story of basketball playing pickup hoops, and he just replied, Y'all are trash, which I thought was funny.

Speaker 1 But like, do you think he responds to too much?

Speaker 1 Because what we've done as a podcast is we used to think it was a little much, but post-burner and like, I don't know what it is, but he's just kind of owns that he will mix it up. Right.

Speaker 1 He will go into the comments and mix it up.

Speaker 4 No, you know what? And I've kind of said a similar thing.

Speaker 4 The burner account, obviously, that's way too much. And hopefully he doesn't have any more.

Speaker 1 Oh, he definitely has more. Listen, if you have one burner account, you have two.
Man,

Speaker 1 you can't quit the burner life cold turkey. You got to wean yourself off a little bit.
Yeah, it's a big time.

Speaker 4 But we talked about it on our radio show, the eye couple, a couple weeks ago. I was like, look, is Kevin Durant sensitive or is he just just gangster?

Speaker 4 Is he just like, look, you put my name in your mouth. I'm coming at you.
I like that. And I like that.
Now, the burner account obviously isn't gangster.

Speaker 4 But outside of that, maybe if he's moved on from that, then I like the fact that, I mean, it's not for everybody. Like you said, I don't go back at everybody that goes at me.

Speaker 4 But if that's who he is, I'm fine with, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 4 One thing I was worried about with Durant was just that it can take away your own happiness and quality of life.

Speaker 1 Well, Well, if you let all that get in your head, it can also add to it, though, because what I've seen from him recently, people send me screenshots all the time of him replying to just random people in his DMs.

Speaker 1 Like he's firing back on anybody. It could be, you know, some Instagram user with 20 followers, and he's like calling him a little punk-ass bitch, you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I think for him, I don't think he's too sensitive. I don't think he's a gangster.
I think he's somewhere in between, which is like a pretty normal person.

Speaker 4 So he's a child of social media.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who realized at some point that replying to people who are talking shit about him makes him feel better.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of people out there, if they were put in his shoes, would probably do the same thing. Like if somebody slides in your DMs and is like, hey, fuck you, I hate you.

Speaker 1 You're going to respond to them, be like, hey, you're a punk-ass bitch, and I've got $100 million more than you do.

Speaker 1 I think that's human.

Speaker 4 And I also think...

Speaker 4 I've kind of settled on this. As long as it doesn't impact him negatively on the court.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which I don't think it has. Right.

Speaker 4 It clearly hasn't. We've seen guys come to New York and with the back pages and the pressure not be able to perform to the best of their ability.
You can't say that about Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 And I know he hasn't been to New York yet, but just wherever he's getting the pressure, he's getting the criticism.

Speaker 4 And even though he reads it all, sees it all, hears it all, it has not impacted him negatively on the court. He can still go out and ball.
So if he does that and he's happy, I'm cool with it.

Speaker 1 Do you think he and Kyrie are going to get going to work together well?

Speaker 4 Because that's a very interesting dynamic between the two of them especially with kevin durant not playing for you i think kevin durant's game fits with everybody when you can shoot and you're seven feet tall you can fit with everybody the guys that are hard to work with other stars are ball dominant guys so what now we wonder how's westbrook and harden gonna work because they're both ball dominant lebron and kyrie won the championship but had their issues because they're both ball dominant so with kyrie is ball dominant but i think you understand kevin durant is the best player maybe the the best player in the world.

Speaker 4 So I think they'll work well. Now, they're fully capable of winning the championship, and

Speaker 4 I would like to see them win the championship. If you put a gun to my head and said, will they win the championship? I think I would say no.

Speaker 4 But I hope they do, and I know they're capable of doing it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's interesting because Kyrie, you know, he did have that experience with LeBron. He's going to be playing next year.
Kevin Durant's probably not going to be playing at all next year.

Speaker 1 Kyrie will probably get him to the playoffs. I would imagine, get him, maybe win a round, maybe two rounds in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And then he's going to have to deal with, he's the alpha. Now we've got another alpha coming back.
Now, is it Kyrie's team or is it KD's team?

Speaker 1 And that's something that he's kind of had a problem with in the past. And I don't know if he'll be able to deal with it.
Maybe he will at the start.

Speaker 1 I mean, winning kind of cures all the problems, right? So if it works, then maybe it's going to be good.

Speaker 1 But I have my doubts that he's going to be able to become ball submissive if we're talking ball dominance. He's a ball sub now.

Speaker 1 and just let KD take over that team that he will have a

Speaker 1 feeling that he helped build that team.

Speaker 4 Well, it's easier with just two guys. You know, you can have two guys

Speaker 4 both get their 25 points a game. You know, it's harder with three because typically one has to step back unless he's just a pass-first point guard type player.
So I think they'll work fine.

Speaker 4 I think the fact that they're good friends will help them.

Speaker 4 And I think Kyrie also was humbled a little bit in Boston. I mean, for him to call LeBron and apologize.
Now, him saying it publicly, I think he did that with ulterior motives.

Speaker 4 I think he did that to send a message to his younger teammates. Hey, you need to get in line.
I needed to get in line once. You need to get in line now.

Speaker 4 However, it still took humility for him to call LeBron and apologize the way he did and recognize

Speaker 4 he needed

Speaker 4 what LeBron was saying. So I think I'm going to say that they can make it work.

Speaker 1 Okay. Um, can I do uh great moments in brew crew history real quick with you?

Speaker 4 Is it is it going to be is it going to be taking shots at?

Speaker 1 No, it's not. Well, listen, I'll explain.
Because I don't know how much of the positive stuff we're going to have in there.

Speaker 1 The brew crew started maybe as a joke, but now I actually think that you have an entertaining way about you that like is interesting because you're not a reporter anymore.

Speaker 4 Well, I don't want to be a clown.

Speaker 1 No, you're not a clown. So, let's do, we'll do it.
You can stop me if you don't want to do anymore. But the first is the LeBron reporting the news after the SI story.
That's my favorite clip.

Speaker 4 Well, ESPN asked us to confirm it.

Speaker 1 And you did it.

Speaker 4 I was sitting there

Speaker 4 on the desk. Brian Winhorse, myself, and I think Mark Stein.

Speaker 4 And they wanted us to confirm it.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 And you did.

Speaker 4 So, you know, that's what I did.

Speaker 1 All right. So here's my favorite one.
This one I think you actually will like.

Speaker 1 When you did the ranking of the players and you said, I don't know if I was the first person to say it on air, but I was the first person I heard say it on air.

Speaker 1 Steph Curry's the best shooter in NBA NBA history.

Speaker 4 I think I, who was, who said it before?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I love that line. That's a great line.

Speaker 4 I think I was the first person.

Speaker 1 I was the first person that I heard say.

Speaker 4 I think. I know Mark Jackson said did their best shooting back court with Clay Thompson.

Speaker 1 Not the same.

Speaker 4 But I think I was the first person.

Speaker 1 We actually say that all the time. If we have a take that sounds good, but it's like maybe somebody else has used it.
Cover your ass. First time I heard it.
So that one's a sweat. I love that one.

Speaker 1 And then the other one I had was

Speaker 1 when people were coming at you for the Tristan Thompson signs a three-year $53 million contract with the Cavs. People said it hadn't happened yet, and you said he's willing to.

Speaker 1 That's a great qualifier. See, that's not bad.
You're dunking on the haters.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was a miss.

Speaker 4 There's a whole backstory to that, but yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 1 Listen, I think the Brew Crew is the most misunderstood crew out there on the internet.

Speaker 4 Hey, I'm not part of the Brew Crew. That's y'all.

Speaker 1 Well, you're the leader of the Brewer. I don't know what y'all.
You're the leader of the Brewer crew. I don't know what y'all do with the Brew Crew.
You lead it.

Speaker 4 Like I said, don't clown me. Let's respect each other, and it's all good.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 when you get things wrong, like, what's the one thing you got wrong that just eats at you? Like, man, I got you.

Speaker 4 Everything you get wrong eats at you.

Speaker 4 And so,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 Is there one, though, that sticks out that you're like, man, I really wish I had that one back?

Speaker 4 Well, right now, it's the Kawhi one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 At this moment in time.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 But like I said, a lot of times things are fluid.

Speaker 4 And so, like, for instance, whether it's me or any reporter, if you report that the Lakers, I'm just making something up, but the Lakers and the Cavs are talking about a trade for,

Speaker 4 say it was Kyle Kuzma for

Speaker 4 Colin Sexton. Just throw it out.

Speaker 1 As first reports. And it doesn't happen.
As first as I heard.

Speaker 4 And it doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 It looks like you just got something wrong. But they actually may have talked.

Speaker 1 They had the conversation. And

Speaker 4 they didn't go ahead with the trade. So, you know what I'm saying? So, when you're reporting things as they develop, some things may happen.
Some things may not happen. Some things change.

Speaker 4 I mean, the thing is with the Kawhi thing, you had a seismic change take place. I mean, the Clippers got a superstar, Paul George.

Speaker 1 That changed everything.

Speaker 4 If Paul George had been there from the get-go, it wouldn't even have been a whole big drama.

Speaker 1 With Kawhi, where's he going to go?

Speaker 4 So that's, you know, that's something to take into account, too.

Speaker 1 Back in, uh, I think it was a 2015 offseason. That was the emojis where, like, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, that whole thing was going down.

Speaker 1 I had, I took your side in that when you were saying Mark Cuban was looking for DeAndre Jordan.

Speaker 1 Like, because he was in Houston, what else was he doing in Houston at that time besides hoping for a meeting with DeAndre Jordan that he didn't get?

Speaker 1 But then Cuban tried to go on Cyberdust, which is a very successful lap. That's true.

Speaker 1 And we used to do stuff with that. Yeah, and he fired back on you on that.

Speaker 1 Like, in that situation, even though I feel like you were correct in your reporting, like at what point do you have to let a feud go with somebody like Mark Cuban?

Speaker 4 Well, myself, I don't hold on to feuds. You know, I mean,

Speaker 1 even the Jay Onrat, the brew crew has already moved on.

Speaker 4 I mean, really, like,

Speaker 4 I don't waste my time holding on to a feud with somebody, worrying about what they think, what they said, whatever. So, Mark Cuban and I went back and forth.

Speaker 4 Was it texting?

Speaker 1 It was black text. Yeah, whatever you are.

Speaker 4 It was

Speaker 4 DBS. I think it was texting, or we'll say Blackberry message.
Blackberry message.

Speaker 1 It was something.

Speaker 4 But we went back and forth and we were fine. You know, he came out and said some things even after where, again,

Speaker 4 our conversations were fine. Do I know for a fact that I was wrong? No, I don't.
Because a lot of people that were telling me this stuff went dark once Cuban got loud about it.

Speaker 4 People in Dallas went dark, you know. And so he and I went back and forth.
He asked me to retract it.

Speaker 4 I never retracted it because I was like, I'm not sure it's wrong, and I haven't been told by these people. And so, but we kind of settled like we're all right.
I saw him at a Dallas game.

Speaker 4 I was there doing sideline reporting. We shook hands.
It was cool. Now, he, like I said, he said a few things about me since then, but you know, and I could have, I take the high road, all right?

Speaker 4 When he had his issues with the franchise and all the, and the, it wasn't me, too at that time, but the sexual harassment, you know, not him, but within his franchise, I didn't shoot at him.

Speaker 4 You know, with Mark Cuban, when he came out about Trayvon Martin, and he said,

Speaker 4 this was before, obviously, the

Speaker 4 tweet I put out about DeAndre Jordan, but Mark Cuban said, if I see a black guy in a hoodie,

Speaker 1 you remember that quote,

Speaker 1 I'm going to go to the other side of the street.

Speaker 4 And if I see a white guy with tattoos all over his face, I'm gonna walk to the other side of the street yeah and i hit mark cube i texted him whatever it was you know it must have been text and i said look i don't think you're a racist but that was wrong what you said i said notice the black guy just has to have on a normal article of clothing right a hoodie everyone with the white guy's got to you know put tattoos all over his face and look menacing

Speaker 4 for you to and he came out now i'm not saying i was the reason But he came out a day or two later and apologized for that. And so that's, look, I don't know where I stand with Mark Hume.

Speaker 4 I haven't seen him in a while or talked to him in a while. As far as I was concerned, we left it good.

Speaker 4 And when I last time I saw him, we shook hands and it was good.

Speaker 4 But, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I got one last question for you. This is more about your days when you were kind of like an insider, when you were maybe writing for the Times, that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 We have a lot of insiders on this show, whether it's football or basketball.

Speaker 1 I'm always curious, and I ask them this question: why do people talk to you?

Speaker 1 Why do people in the business, in like on the team, in the front offices, why do they talk to these people that they know are going to write articles?

Speaker 1 Like, what is the motivation when you're reaching out to them? How can you know this guy will speak with me and share information with me?

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, I've covered the league for 25 years, since 19, almost, yeah, 25, 26 years. So you just develop relationships, you know, and now most guys talk off the record.

Speaker 4 You You know, when I first started covering the league, it was rare to see anonymous quotes. Peter Vesey was doing it, but for the most part, a lot of people weren't using anonymous quotes.

Speaker 4 Now, that's all you see are sources or anonymous quotes. So now everybody's talking off the record.
But one, it's just the relationships you develop.

Speaker 4 Two, it's some guys may want to use you to get information out. They use you to give them information.
So it's a back and forth. You know, so it's just, you know, guys

Speaker 4 in the league understanding the game too, and understanding the power of the media, understanding that you're going to be on television, on the radio, talking about them, perhaps shaping opinions about them, and they may want to have a good relationship with you because that it's human nature that if we get along, it could soften what somebody says about you.

Speaker 4 Now, you try, I try to be objective no matter what. You know, whatever our relationship is, I'm going to try to tell the truth how I feel no matter what.

Speaker 4 But I think those are motivations that guys have.

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Speaker 1 So you said earlier in this, and I respect the hell out of it because I think it's worth noting, you know, when we get in these moments where

Speaker 1 people get things wrong and people clown on each other and all this stuff, you've been in this business for 20 plus years.

Speaker 1 You've done all the things. You know, you've been on ESPN, you've been on FS1.
Those are the big leagues, and you've been successful at it.

Speaker 1 What is like the one piece of advice you would give someone who's trying to get to the big leagues like you've been?

Speaker 1 Because I think you're in a specific situation where some people respect you, some people don't, but you've done it. And

Speaker 1 you cannot deny that you've been here and been doing it.

Speaker 4 I think I say two things.

Speaker 4 One, wherever you're at, like if you come right out of college and they got you covering high schools schools for a website or newspaper, don't be so focused on ESPN or FS1 that you don't excel where you're at.

Speaker 4 Like, you know, if you're so focused on, I got to get up there and be on first take with Stephen A. Smith or whatever, that you lose focus on what you're actually supposed to be covering.

Speaker 4 Because the best way to get to ESPN, FS1, whatever, is to excel where you're at. Dominate your high school beat, dominate your college beat or whatever.

Speaker 4 And that's the best way for you to move up and get there. I mean, I started, Stephen A.
I can name a host of people who started out covering high school sports. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I actually started out part-time in the Cleveland Plain Dealer newsroom, you know, sitting there from 3 to 12, answering phones, moved my way up to covering high schools, then moved my way up from that to covering the pros.

Speaker 4 So that's one thing. The second thing I would say, and some writers have done it, don't let yourself

Speaker 4 get kind of like I,

Speaker 4 one of my biggest mistakes was I let myself get kind of pushed into a role I didn't want and that was with the news breaking because as a beat writer You know breaking stories is part of it I broke my share of stories at the Akron Beacon Journal and New York Times and then when I left the New York Times went to ESPN I told ESPN I was like I'm done with the daily grind and I was writing feature articles for ESPN the magazine and I was still on TV they had me on television for my information and things like that.

Speaker 4 Because you're talking to people around the league, you're getting information, but I wasn't breaking stories and trying to break stories. I wasn't even concerned with that.

Speaker 4 I was doing long-form stories on, did several with LeBron James, Alan Iverson, Dirk Nowiski, things like that.

Speaker 4 I really enjoyed that. And I enjoy going on television, giving analysis, giving information.

Speaker 4 What turned me, my career, and it was great for me as well, was the summer of 2010 when lebron and dwayne wade and chris bosch and all those guys were free agents and i was like i said you know what this is the biggest story of the decade and i was i wasn't one of our you know mark stein was the major news breaker at espn you had rick bucher and some other guys there And I was working around the clock to try to break stories.

Speaker 4 And I broke several stories during that whole time. Wade and Bosch going to Miami, all that.
And so I was doing really really well that summer with breaking a lot of that news.

Speaker 4 And ESPN began to look at me as a news breaker.

Speaker 4 And again, it was great for my career. It raised my profile.
I got on NBA countdown with Magic Johnson and Michael Wilbine and John Berry and all that.

Speaker 4 But they, like I said, they kind of saw me in that role, which I never wanted at that point. I was done with that.
But I kind of,

Speaker 4 you know, never really said, look, I'm not, this is not the role I want. And I kind of let it, you know, and then I was half, you know, I worked hard at other things.

Speaker 4 I still was writing some for the magazine. I still was, you know, giving information on television, but I wasn't really fully trying to break a ton of stuff.

Speaker 4 And then I would try to hustle around the trade deadline or free agency and get some stuff. But nowadays, you really got to hustle like that year-round,

Speaker 4 which I really wasn't doing. You know, I was doing a bunch of little things, all that.
And so, that's can lead to some of the mistakes that I made.

Speaker 4 And so, that's what I would say.

Speaker 4 Don't, that was one of my mistakes is kind of letting myself get pushed into this role of ESPN viewing me maybe as the, he can be our Adam Schefter of the NBA, which I never wanted.

Speaker 4 I just, that's not my lifestyle. That's not my personality.

Speaker 4 That's, I don't want to be as much as, as hard as I work, and I've worked hard and work hard, I don't want to be working 24 hours a day right and and when I'm with my family I really don't want to get a text of something breaking right you know I want to be able to expand

Speaker 1 I want to be able to spend time

Speaker 4 with my kids and with and not that those guys don't but that was a mistake that I made and that's why I'm so happy now to be in the role of an opinionist and an analyst because I do have an educated opinion.

Speaker 4 I've covered the league for 25 years or 26 years, whatever.

Speaker 1 I think you recognizing that this was something that you didn't want to be stuck in is something that doesn't always happen to people. Just because

Speaker 1 you find that you're good at something and you get put in a position, your bosses encourage you to do it this way.

Speaker 1 A lot of times people just stay in that lane for the rest of their careers and be silently begrudging of the fact that they're there and just deal with it. But good for you for recognizing

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 4 Some people have like, you look at a Zach Lowe, who does great stuff for ESPN. He may have a nugget here or there, but he said he doesn't want to get into

Speaker 4 news breaking role. You know, a Ramona Shelburne, who she breaks her stuff, but she's not trying to get into transactional news breaking.

Speaker 4 And I never really define myself at that point as saying, look, I'm not trying to be the guy to try to break every trade or break every free agent signing.

Speaker 4 I kind of just let it go and let them perceive me in that light. And, you know, like I said, it can lead to making some mistakes.

Speaker 1 All right, Chris Broussard, thank you so much. You're a recurring guest now, so you have to come on anytime we ask.

Speaker 4 Hey, man, like I said, I'm cool with being here.

Speaker 1 Y'all do good stuff. Yeah, I appreciate it.
And we DM and text, so I understand how the line got blurred so quickly. But thank you for coming on.

Speaker 4 I'm not a child of the social media era. That's fair.
I'm a grown man. So to me, DMing and texting is the same.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it even looks the same now. They changed the format.
You got the bubbles on both sides. It is kind of the same thing.
You're talking directly to someone.

Speaker 1 Chris Roussard, you can see him on FS1 on a million programs. Thanks so much, man.
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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments.

Speaker 1 First up, by the way, Taylor Won will just not stop tweeting at me. That's tough.
You're stuck in a Dan Orlovsky. He's just worn our podcast.
He's so fucking annoying about it. All right, here you go.

Speaker 1 The Mike Rabel penis cutting story was on his podcast.

Speaker 1 What's it called? Busting with the Boys. Busting with the Boys.
Bleep that out, Hank.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, there you go. There's the credit.
And

Speaker 1 we can move on. Okay.
Yeah. Taylor, if you cut, please stop tweeting me.
If you personally cut Mike Frabel's penis off, then let's come. We'll go on your show to discuss.
Yes. Yes.
But

Speaker 1 you have to go full John Bobbitt on him. Yes.
All right. First up, we have a Stay Woke PFT.
What do you got?

Speaker 1 Big Stay Woke. So this comes to us courtesy of Twitter user Maggie Kurth Baker.
Okay.

Speaker 1 There was a report that in 1989, the cash-strapped Soviet Union paid Pepsi with 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate, and a destroyer in exchange for $3 billion worth of Pepsi, causing Pepsi to become the sixth largest military power, at least Navy-wise, in the world.

Speaker 1 And so she says that she's decided to become a Pepsi, still has a secret Navy truther. And I'm all on board for it.
This is an ultimate mid-July story. I'm all on board for it.
Like,

Speaker 1 I believe it for one reason. If you remember, there was a Super Bowl commercial back in the late 90s where it said that you could use Pepsi points to buy a Harrier jet.
Do you remember that? Yes.

Speaker 1 They listed all the shit you could buy with using Pepsi points. Yep.
And it was just normal stuff for the most part, like binders, shoes, whatever.

Speaker 1 But they also said at the end, kind of as a joke, wink, wink, a joke, you can buy

Speaker 1 a Harrier fighter plane. And then someone got like a big financing crew together and bought as many Pepsi points.

Speaker 1 And Pepsi was like, like, no, we're not going to give you the jet because they needed it for themselves. And if you look at the competition, Coke has a navy.

Speaker 1 You saw that boarding video from the Coast Guard of that dude just jumping on the submarine, banging on the door, trying to get access to all that Peruvian flake that was inside. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 Pepsi needed to start a war against Coke.

Speaker 1 So now that you've revealed this, what next?

Speaker 1 That's a good question. I think we just live in fear.
It was huge. That was a huge reveal.
I'm going to give you credit. Okay.
You got excited. What's next? I'm excited.

Speaker 1 It feels like a big thing, but where do we go? Where do we go? When somebody asks, is Pepsi okay? You say, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 And you stand at attention. You take that fucking Pepsi.
I don't know. Are they okay? Private.
How's their Navy doing?

Speaker 1 They haven't lost a war since then.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Think about it.
So, who came up with this? This was just passed along from Maggie Kurth Baker. But this was an actual story from the 80s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That they got this.

Speaker 1 This is the ultimate July training camp has to start. And if I could tie it into football real quick, you saw that big, like $1.6 billion bust of cocaine that came into Philly.

Speaker 1 And Chris Long

Speaker 1 Morgan. Noted drug user Chris Long is recently retired.
He doesn't have anybody else to donate a salary to, so he's probably funding a bunch of drugs being imported.

Speaker 1 How about Chris Long, like not reading the Mount Rushmore that we did on Wednesday? That was an all-time high moment for him. Yeah, very high.
All I'm saying is

Speaker 1 put down the bong, Chris. All I'm saying is, Pepsi,

Speaker 1 I'm squarely in your corner now. Okay.
I'm done with Coke because I'm in fear of your navy.

Speaker 1 I actually don't mind Pepsi, honestly. Pepsi is fine.
I like it. It's fine.
It's fine. It's not great.
I'm a Mountain Dew guy.

Speaker 1 Does Pepsi make Mountain Dew? Fuck. All right.
We love Pepsi. We love Pepsi here.
It's great. It's better than fun.
It's better than Coke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, tell me what the drink? Yeah, what is... Does Coke make anything that we drink?

Speaker 1 Crack-sponsored? Body armor, but no. But okay, alright, so all right, so yeah, we're good.
We like every drink exactly the same because they're all delicious.

Speaker 1 Except for Pepsi a little bit more because they have a military. Yeah, except Gatorade.
Fuck them. Yeah, you know what? Actually, if you drink Coca-Cola, it's disrespecting some troops.

Speaker 1 Until body armor comes back. Until body armor comes back.

Speaker 1 All right, we have a...

Speaker 1 You decide. What do we say this is going to be? We're going to do bad visuals.
Yeah, no, it might be good or bad visual. So here's how we're going to frame it, okay?

Speaker 1 It's like if you go to a beer company's website, nice fucking sirens. I just lock eyes with Hank every time the siren is there.

Speaker 1 I know he's nothing, it's not his fault at all, and there's nothing he can do about it, but we just have like a silent,

Speaker 1 we need this fixed moment every time the siren goes off. Okay, so this is like when you're going onto like a beer company's website and asks you how old are you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 To make sure that you're 21 to get through it. If you're less than 18 years old, you need to fast forward through the next 30 to 45 seconds of this podcast.

Speaker 1 If you're over 18, then you can listen to it because it's a good visual for CC Sabathia for packing the biggest fucking dip that I've ever seen on TV on Tuesday night or was it Wednesday morning, whatever it was.

Speaker 1 It was like half a tin of skull that he just put in there after he got kicked out of the game. And so

Speaker 3 did he do the horseshoe?

Speaker 1 It was like the whole thing. Yeah.
He grabbed his mouth. And I mean, it was impressive.
A good visual from where I'm sitting, but if you're younger than 18 or also just

Speaker 1 impressionable in any way, no matter the age, it was a bad video. It was an impressive feat of athleticism, no matter how old you are.
True. I'll put it that way.

Speaker 1 You can separate the physical act and how crazy it is that he fit all that stuff in his gums. You can separate that from the product that he was putting.

Speaker 1 He could have put like a wad of toilet paper that big, I would have been impressed.

Speaker 3 Yeah, did he just go bomb or did he spread it out like horseshoe sticks? Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 He just went bomb. It was a bomb.
Yeah, I call him BCC. I call him BCC Sabbathia because we weren't supposed to see that.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Brick Riley joke.

Speaker 1 Bad Sports Town,

Speaker 1 wrapping it up before we get licensed to Jill in here. Bad Sports Town, the city of New York.
Yes. And is it why? Because Baker said what?

Speaker 1 Baker was very happy to have Odell Beckham in Cleveland, and he said, I'm very excited for him to be able to play in front of fans that will actually come out and support him.

Speaker 1 I love it for two reasons. One, Baker, just always a lightning rod.
Two, this is how Odell Beckham feels. Because he definitely told Baker this.

Speaker 1 Like, this is one of those situations where Baker is kind of speaking for Odell Beckham. They didn't support me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also didn't realize that I said when we had Dr. Phil on Wednesday, because we tape these things and then they go away for like two months.
I guess I said I don't like Cleveland.

Speaker 1 I don't like LeBron and the Cavs. That part of Cleveland.
The Browns and the Cavs, I've always said Browns fans and Cavs fans are not the same fans in my mind.

Speaker 1 Here's what you do, big guy, because I find myself in the same shoes as you when we tape an interview a long time ago and then something that I said gets brought up. It's like, what?

Speaker 1 I've evolved since then. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you've evolved since then. Why not?

Speaker 1 I have always stated that I think Cavs and Browns fans are not the same fans. Yes.
Even though they are. They are, but they get in different modes when they root for one team or another.

Speaker 1 Right, because the Browns, I like the Browns. Like, I want them to do well.
The fans are always bundled up real snug in big khaki coats all the time. Yeah.
It's great.

Speaker 1 It's a fun sports style when the Cavs down into plane.

Speaker 1 Also, maybe Odell should have a little bit of awareness because here in New York, we have some of the nation's largest sporting goods manufacturers, and the way that he treated sideline equipment was disrespectful to the jobs and the work that they put in.

Speaker 1 So naturally, he lost the audience there. Fair.
It's true. In Cleveland, they just have Quickened.
So as long as you don't disrespect

Speaker 1 subprime mortgages, Tan Gilbert, then you'll be fine. Or the Comic Sands.
I don't think they own all of Cleveland and Detroit. Odell Beckham's hair is

Speaker 1 the hairstyle. style equivalent of Comic Sans, now that I think about it.
I don't think so. I do.
I think that it's got to be something a little bit more. Well, no, he cut it.
He cut it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're saying now? No, you're talking about Comic Sands. No, the old one was Comic Sans.
All right. It was more like Wing Ding.
Wing Ding? Yeah. Didn't know what was going on? Yeah, Wing Ding.

Speaker 1 Jill, you ready? License to Jill. Jill's been sitting here the whole time, and then I say her name, and she's like, what? Me? You just have not been listening to this podcast.
That's okay.

Speaker 1 Jill, come have a seat. Jill, sit down.
We're going to do license to Jill. We're going to wrap up the show, wrap up the week.
Monday, I think we have a certain Blake of the Year. And maybe

Speaker 1 a British Open winning Blake as well calling in. We'll see if he wins.
Well, first report, on part of my take, Brooks Kepka has won the British Open. There you go.
The Open Championship.

Speaker 1 Suck it, Brandon.

Speaker 1 You must credit us. That's Brandy Chamby right there.
Which one? The guy on the one on the left. Yeah, he looks like a brandless

Speaker 1 wobbly. Yeah, we're just watching TV.
All right, Jill, what's up?

Speaker 1 Hello. Hello.
Hello to have you back. Hello, Jill.
Hello.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 What's the buzz?

Speaker 6 what's going on in the jillie football world i i have a couple of questions for you but first of all i want to get to

Speaker 6 that i'm really not mad yeah yeah but i am disappointed okay in what i never took you mr big cat yeah

Speaker 1 for an anti-vaxxer yeah you know you know what it's sad but i just it's part of my belief have you read the new studies that have come out 40 years ago by a discredited danish doctor uh jill i have read all of them and are you sure you haven't interviewed Jenny McCarthy?

Speaker 1 No, we have not interviewed Jenny McCarthy. I did watch a lot of singles out growing up.
Jill is so good that I don't know if she's joking. Are you joking? Moi, yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're all on the same page. I am very much an anti-vaxxer.
Yeah, even LeBron James gives his son shots. Yeah.
All right, go ahead. Okay,

Speaker 6 this one is

Speaker 6 not

Speaker 6 so that I'm not disappointed, but I'm more proud of

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, not disappointed, proud. That's absolutely to hear.
Proud of Hank.

Speaker 6 For

Speaker 1 not crapping himself.

Speaker 6 Coming out of this three-year

Speaker 6 drought of

Speaker 6 not getting a boner.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Hank. I am.
I had no idea where those go.

Speaker 6 So proud.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He did.
I mean, he finally did it.

Speaker 6 It must have been hard on you.

Speaker 1 Or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, we call him Hank Cockwood now.
Roasts. It's good to be back.
It's good to be back.

Speaker 6 Just

Speaker 1 congratulations.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else that you're not mad but disappointed?

Speaker 6 Well, no. I think that takes care of this week.

Speaker 1 Okay, great. So you want to do some license to Jill? Okay.
You've got some questions. You have, you're looking at us.

Speaker 3 Jillie, I'm not going to be a snitch, but that sounds like you didn't listen and you just asked your son.

Speaker 3 No, no, no. I'm not mad, disappointed.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 6 I have listened. I, you know, Dr.
Phil, everything, I listen, I listen, I listen.

Speaker 1 That was disrespectful.

Speaker 1 Would you like to apologize to your mom? Sorry, Jill. Thank you.

Speaker 1 She made the signs of the cross. That's not good radio.
Yeah, you've been absolved. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 6 You've been absolved. I'm sorry, you know, but

Speaker 6 no, it's all Jill.

Speaker 1 Do you have the questions? I have them. Okay.
Okay. All right.
Hank's going to ask them. Good.

Speaker 3 Jill, what are the best flavors of jelly beans to give to someone you hate?

Speaker 6 Oh, definitely.

Speaker 1 Licorice. Yep.
Yeah, I like licorice. No, you can have them all.
You can have them all.

Speaker 6 I like licorice. Oh, the white ones, the peppermint or something.
Yeah. They don't have much flavor.

Speaker 1 But I don't like the red ones. What about those flavors

Speaker 1 that they make to try to be weird where it's like boogers and

Speaker 1 books? Oh, no, I don't read books. Yeah.

Speaker 6 But you see movies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't watch movies about books. Okay.
Alrighty. It's too close.

Speaker 3 Hey, Jilly, my mom's 50th birthday is coming up. What should a poor college student get her? I have a brother, but but I am clearly the favorite son, so expectations are high.

Speaker 6 A trip to Europe.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Very in line with the fam.

Speaker 1 It cost him a lot of money.

Speaker 6 Borrow her credit card, borrow it, and then you can return it later and

Speaker 6 charge it all.

Speaker 1 Send her to Europe. That's good.

Speaker 1 So what you can say in that instance, you can be like, Mom, I know I used your money to pay for it, but my gift to you is letting you treat yourself because you never do it.

Speaker 6 And it's all about the love.

Speaker 1 And also be like, you can blame dad that I did it. It's not you doing it.
Good pick.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 3 Dearest Jilly, I'm about $10,000 deep in credit card debt. Uh-oh.
Any advice on how to get out of it? If it's possible, I'd like to not pay any of it.

Speaker 1 That feels very impossible. Go to Vegas.

Speaker 6 This is. Yeah, go to Vegas.
Try to win it back.

Speaker 1 Take a couple hundred.

Speaker 6 But.

Speaker 3 No, I'm saying this is Jill. You guys are.
You guys are.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. We're supposed to let you in.
Sorry, sorry.

Speaker 6 Exactly. You could go to Vegas.
You could go to Atlantic City. you know, take a few dollars, try to win it back, or

Speaker 6 move out of the country.

Speaker 1 Oh, there you go, Father. That's what I would do.
Flee

Speaker 1 Italy. Italy.

Speaker 6 Go to Italy, hide in those hills, you know.

Speaker 1 Those hills in Italy. Everyone knows them.
Well,

Speaker 1 go to Tuscany and let's not tell people to go back to other countries. No, no, no, no, no.
Very proud. Hot button issues.

Speaker 1 Well, one other suggestion is just declare bankruptcy.

Speaker 1 So in the United States, we have this great thing where it's basically like shooting the moon in cards, where if you just get into enough trouble, you're in no trouble at all anymore. Correct.

Speaker 1 It's pretty. You should have to say it out loud.

Speaker 6 It used to be easy in Florida to say that.

Speaker 1 Believe me, we know. Okay.
They don't even know financials. They don't even have Lars.

Speaker 3 All-time favorite movie for Jilli football.

Speaker 1 Force Come.

Speaker 6 Butch Cassie and Sundance Carrie.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. A true movie.
You're Paul Newman. Newman Gallagher.

Speaker 6 Oh, best lines in that movie.

Speaker 1 What about Cool Hand Luke? Is Cool Hand Luke? That was okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was my all-time favorite. Here's a failure to communicate.
Shaking it off here, boss. Shake it off.

Speaker 6 Another one would be Weekend at Bernie's.

Speaker 1 That's one of your favorite movies. Weekend at Bernie's.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 that's basically what we have to do with Hank when he's coming off a bender in the office. Just walk him around.
Damn, that's one of your favorite movies. All right.

Speaker 3 Hey, Jilly Beans, is it true giving birth hurts? If it's as painful as every woman describes, why did you decide to do it five times?

Speaker 1 Who can remember?

Speaker 1 It was the same. That's not time for this.

Speaker 1 80s, actually.

Speaker 6 But, you know, who can remember? I'm 69 years old.

Speaker 1 But that's in the past. Who cares? Well, you didn't answer the question at first, which was, does it really hurt?

Speaker 6 Yes, it does. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It really, really hurts. All right, myth debunked.
It

Speaker 6 is painful.

Speaker 1 We give that a lot.

Speaker 6 But you can get drugs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then it's not so painful.
Now I'm interested. It didn't hurt when Arnold Schwarzenegger did in Jr.
That's true. Callback, Titus.

Speaker 3 All right, last question.

Speaker 3 Sup, Jilly, if you could change any one thing in today's world back to how it was when you were in your 20s, what would it be?

Speaker 3 When were you in your 20s?

Speaker 1 60s? 1942.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 6 I was in my 20s in the 70s.

Speaker 6 I would go with...

Speaker 1 Better cocaine. The 49ers would be good again.
The 49ers would be good again.

Speaker 6 Give me Joe Montana any day.

Speaker 6 I think I would go without

Speaker 6 laptops.

Speaker 1 No, get rid of laptops.

Speaker 1 So keep phones, but no laptops. Correct.
Okay, that really makes no sense.

Speaker 6 It probably doesn't make sense. You know, I can't figure out a laptop.
I barely can figure out a rough.

Speaker 1 Oh, so that's a personal thing. You just can't figure out a laptop.
You know what?

Speaker 3 How are you going to watch Rough and Rowdy, Jill? Jill was trying to get me to set her up with a rough and rowdy.

Speaker 3 And and I was I was trying to ask her I was like Jill how like if I send you this login are you gonna watch it on your on your laptop?

Speaker 6 She's like yeah, but I'm sure but I can also contact my darling Jake and he can set me up. That's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also if nobody had laptops We wouldn't be running this issue with the whole new Twitter design true good point. There you go strictly iOS.

Speaker 1 Oh my god if Jill if they if Twitter changes anything on on the phone and Jill has to deal with it that's going to be because I can't do it on the computer.

Speaker 1 I we know so but if you they Twitter likes likes to change things every now and then to just fuck with people. No.
Yeah. When that happens to you, you're going to have a meltdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you should go after Jack. Just at Jack.
At Jack. On Twitter.
He's the boss of everything. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 He is not ready for the jelly beans.

Speaker 1 You might just shut the whole thing. We'll get into it next week.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll see everyone Monday.

Speaker 1 Blake, maybe two Blakes on Monday's show. At least confirmed one Blake on Monday's show.
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Yo, bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to. Be the best, you subscribe by the piece of thugs.

Speaker 1 I don't want it to damn quick. Cut them nigga up, so come get thumbs up.

Speaker 1 I don't dance now, I make money over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't gotta dance, I make money though. If I feel and I don't speak, that that means I don't fuck with you.
I'm a boss, you a break of fits. I make blood when I see their cheeks.

Speaker 1 Google or the hoop, let's find out. Tee, call me, you know where I'm at, you know where I'll be.
But when the club is too party, I'm there, I just fade deep.

Speaker 1 I feel it like them fit so much, I know they gotta be. Honestly, don't give a fuck about who in bottom of me.
But who missed it, this bitch was both fixed like getting the part of me.

Speaker 1 I don't bother with these hoes, don't let these ones bother me. They be features, they say cold.
Bitch, I'm who they try to me. Look, I might just turn it up a baby.

Speaker 1 I might just shoot on the group, I might just fill on your bed. I'm not gonna keep her like a lake.
He wanna shoot me in the face. I'm like, okay, I let him do what he want.
He got me easy to rob.

Speaker 1 And then you win, but you go back to the horse. I got your pull in the boat.
I'm not a hottest in the street. No, you probably heard of me.
I'll die and fix my teeth.

Speaker 1 Hope you hoes know it ain't cheap. And I'll pay my mama fail.
I ain't got no time to see it. I think these hoes be mad at me.
They baby father, boy.

Speaker 1 Lil' bitch, you can't fuck with me if you want to. These expensive decent spreads out of me.
Look at this.

Speaker 1 I can't get them both. I don't want to.
Then I'm quick. Cut a nigga over from the gunfool.
Look, I don't dance now, I make money move. Said I don't gotta dance, I make money move.

Speaker 1 If I see you now, beat that meet sound bug with you. One of balls, you a reckless bitch, I make good moves.
You a booky, you get pop, you a spooky, you a opp.

Speaker 1 Bet you come around my way, you can't hang around.

Speaker 1 And I just like my funky doll. I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm richer.
Put my hand up on my hips, I bet you 50-50.

Speaker 1 I never

Speaker 1 be good as gold. I don't know if this nigga roll.
I took a broke in the hole. I didn't give up in the ray.
I need to spin up the nap. No, I need to pull up the sick.
I I need to let you fall.

Speaker 1 They know that they make it to shake. I don't shit on the stick.
Only the rookie relays. I used to live in the peace.
Now I'm just crazy with the cake. I think that sounds like what's the case.

Speaker 1 I can't let these bitches make. Cause it gave me fuck a drop.
I just want to touch them. No, I know it.
I'm holding back the little bitch.

Speaker 1 Peace of bread, but I need to thirsty.

Speaker 1 I can't get them both, I don't want to. Then I'm quick for them niggas.
But some of the dunks war. Look, I don't dance now, I make money move.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't try to dance, I make money move. What's that seem now? Sweet, that means I don't fuck with you.
I'm a ball to a break with page, I make blood move.

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