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On today's part of my take, we have a two-fer, two recurring guests that we love, Doug Marone and Ice Cube.

We do get into it with Doug Marone about Blake Bortles. We talk Jags.
And then with Ice Cube, Big Three and a little redemption for PFT and his rap the last time that Ice Cube was on. I actually thought the first rap went pretty well.
I did too. But this one was even better.
So Ice Cube is now, I think, best friends with us. Yep.
We have a little tennis talk because there was a Wimbledon championship. We have a Who's Back and Mount Rushmore of animal traits we wish we had.
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$5 to ASPCA ASPCA today is Monday July 15th and we are two and a half weeks away from the Hall of Fame game I love the Hall of Fame game and I love betting on it because you really feel like you're back in the action and then you realize that you have no idea how to handicap the game uh we were looking at the schedule we've got the Falcons and the Broncos and when you when we it, we were like, what should we talk about to start a show? And we're like, okay, how about the Hall of Fame game in two and a half weeks? Falcons, Broncos. We're like, we fucking hate the Hall of Fame game.
And then immediately we started just completely natural, like, well, Drew Locke. Yeah.
And maybe Matt Schaub. Pretty good matchup.
So we're ready for it. But yeah, so that's just a little reminder for you that football is very close to being back.
Where should we start? Should we start tennis? Let's start with Wimbledon. Let's start with Wimbledon.
Or as my dad calls it, Wimbledon. Wimbledon.
Jokovic versus Federer. I'm a Jokovic guy.
I became a Jokovic guy on Sunday morning. Get joked.
If you want to life hack your way into enjoying a sport, just figure out what the GOAT debate is. And I mean, obviously, I have no idea what goes on in tennis.
I was corrected many times. There was even people who were like, yeah, Jokovic is the GOAT.
He's got 16 Grand Slam titles, and he's six years younger than Federer. Someone replied and was like, well, he won a bunch of them when Rafa had his knee thing and Federer was going through his things.
And I don't even know what his things are. No, he went through his stuff.
But you get in the GOAT debate, and boom, you're locked in. Yeah, I was actually rooting for Djokovic, too, because the more that you can poke holes in Federer's resume, the more you can say Sampras is the GOAT.
Yeah. And we need the GOAT to be an American.
He is the GOAT.

Sampras is the GOAT for all-time best body hair.

Chest hair.

Huge chest hair guy.

Plumes of chest hair.

But yeah, Jokovic, Federer, it was great.

I don't really know.

I don't know tennis.

I know that they have better replay than any other sport in the world,

which doesn't make sense.

Well, they call it Hawkeye, which is just fucking badass.

It's crazy.

You feel like they're using a drone. How do they have that, and then we can't get a goal line? Like, we don't know if someone crossed the plane.
Well, the parallax effect. It's crazy.
That's the thing about tennis. They don't have the parallax effect to worry about.
But, yeah, it was awesome. I love just the old Wimbledon tiebreaker format, where it was just keep playing until one of you dies.
This year they changed it up and it was i was trying to figure out the scoring system but it's like the fifth set you play until it's 12 12 the person who invented tennis scoring in the first place was just like a crackhead super high with a brain injury 15 30 40 and then there's love why so it's first to four in each game right and then best then best to six, win by two in each set. And they flip a coin.
And then best to five. And then in the tiebreaker, it gets to 12.
And then it goes to an old-fashioned tiebreaker, which I didn't even know what the fuck was happening. First to seven.
Yeah. I needed Woody Harrelson.
I needed them to put a microphone of Woody Harrelson, his drunk ass, in the stands today and have him try to explain to me what the scoring system was. It was so stupid.
The scoring system is so stupid. I'm a tennis guy now.
And when I say I'm a tennis guy, I mean, like, remind me that Wimbledon's happening next year because I'll probably watch one match again. But that's a big step for someone who before today, that was the longest I have sat on the couch and watched one tennis match.
It was about three hours. And I found out I'm a Yoković.
Would you go to the U.S. Open? Fuck no.
No, absolutely not. Fuck no.
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
No, no. Listen, I'm a tradition guy.
I don't like the U.S. Open with their Mickey Mouse uniforms.
They're all wearing neon stuff. No thanks.
I'm a Wimbledon guy. You'd be caught dead at a U.S.
Open. The Lawn and Racquet Club is just pure class out there.
You know what they don't have in England? They don't have people dipping their fish and chips into Coca-Cola and then eating them. Mm-hmm.
That's American stuff. It's strawberries and cream.
Strawberries and cream, breakfast at Wimbledon. It's also Federer – like, I don't understand.
Why does everyone love Federer? Someone explain that to me. I'll tell you why.
He's classy. I'll tell you exactly why.
I hate this classy piece of Tom Brady of tennis. Pure class.
You know, he's way classy. He's also got two sets of twins, which is – I don't know what's going on with that.
When I saw that, I was like, what's going on? Excellent sperm. Yeah.
His sperm have teamwork. Boys and girls are all boys.
Boys and girls. Two boys and two girls? Yeah, because I saw it, and I was like, why are all those kids, the boys and the girls are dressed alike? And I was like, that's fucking weird.
Then I realized they were twins, because whoever was doing the postgame had an all-time burn on them. It was like, this was an unbelievable run for you.
You're 20 grand slams but now you get to be a dad and he like turned over like they're your four kids yeah have fun you know go change diapers yeah go go go do some chores you you've been away from home for a while the thing about federer that i think people like is he is better when he loses than he is when he wins so when he when he loses so he's really good at making jokes about like in that like one-on-one post-match interview, he's good at kidding around and making fun of himself. When he wins, he's just kind of happy.
He's like, I guess I'm going to have to clear out space in my shed. You could call me the goat if you didn't know Jokovic is fucking nasty.
And Jokovic has it over him head-to-head. I know their primes don't line up.
They don't. Give me a break.
Jokovic is the GOAT. Listen, I'm a Rafa guy.
If we're talking modern tennis. If we're talking clay? If we're talking modern tennis, which I don't understand.
I love watching tennis on grass, but why don't they let in the finals, they should let them use cleats? I don't think that would work. Why? Because it's so fine.
Your boy Joker was slipping and sliding all over the place. Right, but that's part of the allure.
When they slide and then they can blame the ground. Yeah.
You have to be able to green. You would tear up your knees if you had cleats.
Yeah, you'd get stuck in there. Then fuck yeah, I would watch tennis.
No, that grass is crazy, man. There were gruesome leg injuries.
Yeah, so I guess tennis is the big thing. And also it was nice that it spilled all the way into the afternoon.
I was was. I was mad that it was over.
Oh, it was a life. It was a hangover like cure.
It got all the way to the Cubs first pitch. I was like, fuck yes.
Now I don't have to worry about what the hell I'm going to do for these hours that are just wasted on Sunday mornings in July. Yeah.
So whoever wants to debate me, please come at me. You're just six years younger.
He's going to have the all time Grand Slams when it's all said and done. Don't tell me about primes and all this bullshit.
He's my goat. The problem with Djokovic is he looks like an accountant.
He looks like Nick Nurse's daughter's boyfriend that she dumped for being too boring. That went really deep.
Yeah. No, like really.
This dude does not look like an athlete at all. He's length, dude.
He's got length. He's got the length.
Big time length. Yeah.
He's from Serbia, right? Yes. Yeah.
Let Serbia have a goat. I don't think I don't feel like I have a goat.
Why not? And yeah. And also Joker is a cool nickname.
Joker is pretty cool. I had to Google how to spell his name no less than like 700 times, even though it was spelled right in front of me on the thing.
But I still it's one of those names. It's like Krzyzewski, like Coach K.
see it and look at it you still are gonna fuck it up doesn't add up yeah there should be like a a club dj that's just named dj okovich ooh remember kenny main back in the day does wayne brady have to yokovic oh that's pretty good that's a good line that he has yeah so yeah i think you're in on the go no no listen i'm not a joker. I was rooting for him today just so that he could bring Sampras back into the discussion.
Yes. I like Rafa.
I love him with the clay court master, the gallant master in it all. I like the back and forth because there were a couple Wimbledons that Rafa beat Federer, right? Correct.
Am I making that up? 2008, dude. Best match ever.
Yeah. I didn't watch it, but people told me about that.
It's commonly regarded as the best match i've ever seen there's so many like weird tennis fans i actually they were very respectful it wasn't like a ufc or if you if you're trying to talk hockey on twitter it was hey you're wrong but we're not going to do it in a mean way if you ever want to go down a really weird rabbit hole is uh you look up like tennis follies because there are a bunch of tennis players that specialize in these pro-am games where they're allegedly very funny while they play and they make jokes. But the idea of a joke to a tennis player doesn't really line up with what everyone else thinks a joke is.
So they'll hit the ball in bounds and then they'll tell the umpire, no, I hit that out of bounds. And then the crowd will clap and laugh And then they'll take a bow.
Good job. Fucking nailed it.
Good job. Yeah, so we had that.
Serena lost, which I guess, is she still the GOAT? She's still the GOAT. I feel like Serena is once and always GOAT.
And I'm just saying this because I am not prepared to deal with any blowback from talking shit about Serena. She scares me more than the Bayhive.
Or the Jilly Beans. Or the Jilly Beans.

Or the Swift Boats.

Is that what they call Taylor fans?

Yeah, the John Kerry Swift Boats.

The Swift Boat Veterans.

And doesn't, what's her name?

Ariana Grande, doesn't she have a big hive?

No?

The Grandstand?

Do you know what it is?

The Grandies?

No?

Okay.

No, probably not.

All right, so yeah.

Fuck her.

That was good.

The Sweeteners or something.

Yeah, the Sweeteners.

We also had, on Friday, the Takeys. If you didn't listen, the takeies were electric and I'm still buzzing off Blake of the year.
But we had the Russ Westbrook, Chris Paul trade that happened after we taped the takeies. So now that we've had a few days to sleep on it, any change? I actually think both teams won.
Have you heard from Blake? those what about it have you heard from him uh about cp3 that's just a side that's more of like a silent like i feel like he doesn't concern yeah yeah blakes don't concern themselves with the opinions of paul blake portals oh blake portals oh yes he was heartbroken so he was heartbroken he fucked up i mean that was he was the people's blake a very long time. But that's no longer the case.
I feel like you're once and future People's Blake. I'm not ready to write Blake Bortles off just yet.
No, he's got to earn it. He's been counted out before.
I think he'll be just fine come next year. This is probably worse than when he got cut by the Jags.
If I'm being totally honest. Right? I don't know.
Yeah, I think it's up there. It's a good setup for the

interview, too. It is.
Yeah, minor

setback, major comeback. Yeah, we do talk to Doug Marone about it.

But yeah, so the Chris Paul-Russ Westbrook

trade, I actually think both teams won.

Not won a championship,

but I think both teams got

something like the Rockets finally have

good chemistry again, and

the Thunder,

I don't even know if they'll keep Chris Paul. If they do actually think they won't be be they'll make the playoffs they're not going to win anything i think both teams lost um i'm not prepared to crown a victor until this is one of those trades where we really do have to wait for like five years yeah to figure out what the oklahoma city uh their gm did was just hit the big time reset button they're they're job for life there's a there's like a seventh grader right now that will be on the thunder.
Yeah. With one of these picks.
You have a pick. Yeah, they have like six picks in 2026.
Yeah. Total future Sam Presti move.
Just the best way to keep your job is trade all your assets for future assets, and then no one can fire you. I'm interested to see, though, how Westbrook fits in with Harden because I don't know if those two players can play together.
I say it as a joke because they obviously played in Oklahoma City. But Chris Paul and James Harden couldn't really play together either.
But since they've gone their separate ways, they've become even more of what they were when they were in OKC. So now watching them have to fight over the ball, they might actually score points at the same – they might dunk together, both four on the ball jamming it in they should just play shifts like hockey shifts just like each of them plays 20 minutes and then the end they can close together i feel like westbrook is going to get real sick and tired of james harden doing the little like shoulder lean into people because they're like opposite players when it comes to contact westbrook loves to just run in people and dunk.
Harden likes to just bump somebody with their shoulder

and then fall down on the ground.

I think it's going to work just because, and again,

I'm not saying they're going to win a championship because they're not,

but I think it's going to work just because Russ Westbrook,

like Kevin Durant left, Paul George left.

You then ask for a trade.

You don't have much more.

You know what I mean?

We tried that you're the head of the team.

You're getting traded to James Harden's team, so you have to take a backseat i don't know we'll see this sucks for d'antoni though like trying to trying to have to figure out how to use these two guys at the same time that he's going to earn his money next year but using anyone with james harden is hard he needs to grow the mustache back that thing commands respect all right what else we got anything's cooking around? I mean, it's a bleak time in sports.

Yeah.

I actually have one thing I forgot to talk to you about before when we were putting the rundown on the show together.

But I think it's important that we discuss it.

Okay.

Jacoby Brissett has been on a heater on Twitter recently.

He's been asking the existential questions that we don't know the answers to, such as, if the sun is hot, how come outer space is cold?

He's tweeting out all these woes. He came up with one, like, do you wash your cups after you drink water out of them yeah i don't so is he doing because this is actually a very fast way to like become part of like viral twitter is to just ask a bunch of random questions and be like generally genuinely curious and i'm sure he's got a lot of twitter followers from it so do you think he's just doing this or do you think someone's like hey jacoby let's get your brand out there start get let's just ask questions that like a bunch of people that are super high scrolling twitter will be confused about honestly i think he just bought like a giant size thing of popsicles from costco and they all have riddles on them yes and so every time he eats one he just tweets that out we should we should actually do that just start just start tweetingpple bottle caps.
We're just asking questions. Yeah, we're just throwing out facts.
Weird facts. All right, so we do who's back, and then we'll get to our interviews.
And then we'll have our Mount Rushmore on the other side. Hank, who's back? My who's back of the week? I have a few.
My first one is aliens. Yes.
Yep. 400,000 people have signed a petition to storm area 51 uh just got the internet buzzing everyone's everyone's talking about it everyone's excited to see what's there see what's going on i feel like the power outage that had something to do with aliens yeah just like a gut feeling yeah do you think that what else what else would it have been so transformer they're not aliens they.
It's too hot. Global warming.
Do you think that this is a way for the aliens to round up all the people that think they're aliens and then kill them all? Or do you think it's the government being like, let's get rid of all the crazies on Facebook? This is a setup. It honestly sounds like the plot from Independence Day when they're driving into the desert.
And then Will Smith like, hey, I got one of the aliens, let us in. And then they let Randy Quaid in the whole convoy of RVs.
They should just have somebody, they should have Sam Cassell under a tarp in the backseat of a pickup truck and be like, look what we got, let us in. This is a setup though, don't you think? So the question is the setup, is the setup that the government is trying to get rid of all the people that are like crazy and do theories online or is the setup that the aliens have set this up and they're trying to eliminate everyone who believes in aliens so you're thinking that it's like the government started this petition to round up all the believers yes under the guise of we're going to storm area 51 right yeah it's like when alabama arrests people every year right at the auburn bama game yeah they do the iron bowl they do stings for yeah free tickets to the iron bowl and then they're like hey you haven't paid child support that's exactly what this is this is what that is so i think it's the aliens all the aliens are setting it up to get rid of the people that believe in them so like the aliens are sitting out there and say hey the block has gotten a little too hot there's too many people out there who think we exist let's get them all here and then blow them all up yes so instead of just like shooting earth with a death ray they're like hey we'll just start a change.org petition yeah and a facebook meetup and that'll take care of it correct so something bad's gonna happen we gotta go they're coming we should send someone we should actually send someone and videotape it for Barstool Gold.
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So the U.S. Air Force said the U.S.
Air Force always stands ready to protect America and its assets. So sending out a warning, like if you're going to really storm the gates.
That means there's assets. That's right.
They admitted there was an asset there. Good point, Hank.
This is like, what if this is the new Burning Man or Coachella? Yeah. There's Area 51 part.
What if it's just like a huge rager? It's going to be like 98% dudes. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. It's going to be Purdue.
Probably less than 1,000 people show up. Well, and the other thought, it could be that the U.S., that's like the fake alien place.
Because we don't know about the real alien place like if everyone knows area 51 there's no chance there's real aliens there they would have moved them yeah somewhere else just jacoby brissette okay stay woke anything else oh uh the undertaker is also back yes okay tonight yes undertaker. Verbal meme coming out of the casket.
Live look at The Undertaker. Verbal meme.
Hand coming through the ground. Did he win? I don't know.
Sure. He definitely won.
He doesn't come back to lose. Except for the one time that Hank and I went and saw.
We broke the streak. Life's too short to take the under.
And the sad woman who was sitting in the New Orleans airport the next day with the light up sign. 30, whatever it was, like 28, no.
And he had lost the night before. Speaking of Undertaker gifts, how bad are you guys cheated that you weren't the guy? Like, you know, the guy whose eyes got super wide when he lost? Like, you were at that.
You could have been that guy. We were too far back.
But I did have a pretty similar, like, it wasn't the the eyes but i had a pretty similar shock when i saw that happen but yeah that we should get get in touch with that guy i wonder he's probably i feel like he came along a little bit too early like if he if that happened today he would have had a sponsorship party oh we would have known bad things that he's done the thing we got milkshake duck real quick what's the difference so bagel boss guy is like the opposite of the whole milkshake duck theory where the internet falls in love with some guy that they saw on tv at the oscars that they brought in off the street and then five minutes later it's like oh he's been convicted of sexual assault before right like with the bagel boss guy you are immediately famous for being the world's biggest dickhead like what do they go back in your past and found out time that you donated to charity just reconfirm it yeah like you are a dickhead yeah the yeah if they go back and like hey this guy has been helping communities yeah for a really long time yeah actually break my heart if the bagel boss guy was like a philanthropist yeah he actually goes to bagel boss every day to see if they have any leftover bagels for like a homeless bank homeless people yeah i'm pretty confident that that's not the case no that Definitely not the case. All right, PFT, what do you got? My Who's Back of the Week is Grayson Allen.
Ooh. Grayson Allen's back committing flagrant fouls at a rate unprecedented to players not named Grayson Allen.
So this is one of those circumstances where it's great to see a player fall back into the old stereotype that you had on him. I just always say he plays hard.
He plays Duke basketball. Sometimes he's just clumsy.
His feet, it's hard to keep your feet underneath you, like we learned with Draymond Green. Core strength is important.
If you don't do enough push-ups, you'll probably just kick a bunch of people in the nuts. Well, he was hitting people in the head.
He's got bad labrums. He's got poor shoulder control right so he's knocking people in the head left and right i think he fouled out in record time uh coming after my old rec league record that we always talk about here uh that everyone we do always knows about that yeah um so yeah good to see grace and allen back i'm waiting for coach k to come out and defend him and be like he's a good kid he's just a good kid no jay williams will yeah yeah definitely will definitely come out and say something my other who's back of the week is tony romo okay tony romo's back he won the american century golf tournament oh yeah 71 points the pro-am or whatever yeah it's the stableford scoring system which nobody really knows how that works it's worse than tennis very almost worse than tennis he's yeah he won this is back to back for tony for Tony.
And Charles Barkley? He's just, I don't know how. Charles Barkley probably did not finish.
They always have odds for him, and they're so funny. It's like a million to one for him to win.
They should have let Charles Barkley cheat. If Charles Barkley was allowed to cheat, I still don't think he'd win.
He still couldn't win. No chance.
No chance. So yeah, he shot a 71 or he scored 71 points, just really doing everything he can to impress Jim Nance.

Did you see that video of Steph Curry not being able to dunk three times in a row at this program?

Can't relate.

Tough look.

Can't relate.

Tough look.

All right.

My who's back is Instagram in general because I feel like summer is all about the gram and just scrolling through.

It's all about the gram.

Everyone's on Instagram showing how sick their summer is and how awesome summer is a movie when in reality, like they're probably just at the same shitty lake that everyone else is at, and they took one awesome Instagram picture. Yeah.
That's pretty much it, right? Anyone can look good in a swimsuit with the right filter. Yes.
What's your guys' Instagram handles? My IG is henrylockwood1. Henny's one? HenryLockwood1.
I'm always tagging Hank. Mine's also HenryLockwood1.
Damn, it's crazy. Come check out our collective Instagram.
We're like the McCourty twins. Yes.
We share it. We just all share Hank's Instagram.
All right. My other who's back is Amari Stoudemire, who is trying to make a comeback.
He should not make a comeback because we're still on Sam Decker watch. We need Sam Decker to sign first.
But he's also challenging people to fights on Instagram, which is also back. Some guy said something about how, oh, it's the Leigh Knicks is the Instagram handle.
And basically said that he's got weak-ass knees and washed up and all this stuff. And he was brainwashed because he said he loved playing for the Knicks.
And it's like, of course you did, dude. You got paid a hundred million dollars to suck.
So he slid into the DMS and literally was like, where are you right now? I'll come and meet you. And the guy's like, I live in Seattle.
And, uh, and he's in Amari said, keep my name out of your mouth. If you can't, if you can't say it in person.
And he replied, I will say whatever I post in person. I stand by it, and I don't think it's unfair criticism.
And Amari said, I'll see you soon. You're in Seattle.
I'll be there soon. And they basically set up a meetup point where he's going to go beat this guy.
He's going to beat him up because he said something mean about him. These fights should always take place in Temecula.
I don't like the idea of it happening outside that jurisdiction. If I were that dude, I would absolutely let Amari Stoudemire fight me.
Yes. Like the lawsuit that would come after that? Hell yes.
If he flies to Seattle, it ended with him saying, I live in Seattle, I can meet you at the Space Needle. And Amari Stoudemire just said, say no more.
Let's do it right underneath the Space Needle. He just got on a flight.
Yeah, he just got on a fucking six-hour flight to go fight him at the Space Needle. That would be amazing.
It would. Yes.
Make it Amari. Rough and rowdy.
Yeah, just set up an impromptu ring right outside the Space Needle. Either way, Amari Stoudemire, he's back.
He's trying. Is he still big into those wine baths? Oh, yeah.
Just hanging out in a bunch of wine. Which basically coincided with his knees falling apart.
Which he was like, yeah, it's great. I just bathe in wine and it helps my body.
And then he just was never good again. It just took out his ACL.
P. Kamari Sotomayor was awesome.
Him and Steve Nash together. Dude, don't let him get in the lane.
Sean Marion, the Matrix. Little pick and roll.
Dude, what about Joe Watch? Oh, yeah. Joe Kim Noah is also maybe coming to the breakers.
We're going to try. Probably not.
I think we might have just thrown that out there that's what it looked like the stein report so yeah it's a little bit of a he's got a lot of nba interest a lot of people are probably gonna try and add him but maybe yeah who knows wait what's this about him coming to the breakers mark stop literally was just made up on saturday uh it was a mark mark sign report said that he's in discussion with the breakers yes Yes. I mean, yeah, I knew that.
Yeah, you know, totally. So yeah, maybe maybe we'll have them.
I don't know. I've extended my offer on Saturday said, hey, Joe, I'm a player's owner.
We literally as PFT showing right now, we're players owners. We will stay completely out of your business to the point.
We don't even know that you might sign with us. I'm I'm hands off to the point of being incompetent.
Yes, exactly. So, yeah, absolutely.
It would be great to have a player on the team that has worse facial hair than I do, too. That would be a huge come up for your boy.
I don't know about that. It's pretty bad.
It's not that bad. It looks like a goat's ass.
But it's not that bad. It's pretty bad.
All right. Let's do Doug Marone, coach of the Jaguars.
We talk a little Blake Bortles. We talkles we talk about uh bologna we had uh jilly football cooking us fried bologna sandwiches also doug marone showed up with basically an entire deli he brought yeah an entire bodega from the bronx it was like a pepperoni roll three bologna sandwiches some dried sausage which was delightful so much so much so much sandwiches and meat and everything um all right do that, though.
And some beers that Hank got drunk off of during the take-ies. Yes, exactly.
Before we do that, we're going to get right back to the show. Hey, buddy.
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Okay, here he is, Jaguars coach Doug Marone.

Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest.

It is the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Doug Marone.

He just walked in with, I'd say, about a dozen sandwiches from the Bronx.

From the Bronx.

Thank you. guest is the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Doug Marone.
He just walked in with, I'd say, about a dozen sandwiches from the Bronx. From the Bronx.
Pepperoni bread, bologna sandwiches. Hot and mild sausage.
You're going to a Billy Joel concert. What's better than that? A New York night.
I said, I'm here today on Barstool. Tonight, Billy Joel.
Tomorrow, the Yankees. And I'm in a big-time New York state of mind.
Yeah, that's a whirlwind tour right there. Yeah, it's a whirlwind New York state tour.
We're also frying up bologna. Jill's over there, manning the grill.
So if you can smell it while you're watching it and listening to it. I'm actually gaining weight right now as I'm sitting here.
And the other thing, too, what's funny is when I eat the fried bologna and I start to sweat later on tonight, I'll actually start smelling it again. Like big guys like myself.
And you're like, I want some more of it. It triggers you to get more.
Or I can get a little taste. Did you get the salt coming out? Yeah, salt with the bologna.
It feels great. So we're going to get to football, but let's talk about the Yankees first because your beloved New York Yankees are awesome.
Even though they were injured all first half of the season, they've been awesome.

Are you feeling 28?

Are you starting to get your hopes up that this is kind of a complete team?

It's interesting because I was – so tomorrow I'm hoping to go there and see Coach Boone and talk to him a little bit about –

last year we went through a ton of injuries.

So I was listening to – for us as coaches, we kind of do a lot of background and see what's going on. So they've had a lot of injuries, but I've been listening to a lot of these young players or people that they've acquired.
And in all these interviews, I keep hearing the same thing is that, you know, hey, when you're part of the Yankees, you're part about winning championships. And that's what's expected and the culture and things of that nature.
So, you know, I can go into this year not having injuries but being better prepared so I can do a better job when injuries hit because a lot of people wrote them off, and I'm sure that you use that a little bit as far as motivation, but you've still got to produce and perform and beat good teams that are out there. They've been able to do that I know from a coaching perspective, I admire what they've done.
The same with the women's soccer team. They played in an exhibition game in Jacksonville.
And I had met with that coach. So she was down there and then went and watched them play the exhibition game.
And it was unbelievable to see them in person. I don't think TV really does any credit, you know.
And then, you know, I saw what they're doing down here in New York and having the parade and stuff so it's been it's been um you know you're always trying to learn there's really no off season would you talk to every every level coach like yeah i don't think i have a madden franchise would you talk to me would you ask me how i deal with injuries and stuff i turn injuries off but yeah do you really yeah that's what i'm saying exactly but i do think that's an important thing i think that you know just because you have something on your shirt that may say NFL or MLB or NBA, it doesn't mean that there aren't good coaches at all the other levels. I think you can learn so much from, especially like I always appreciate going and watching youth coaches because they've got to talk to these players and teach these players.
And the words that they use and how they teach them and all the different things are things that I hope to learn from that I can do a better job. I don't think it's the emblem or the team or the league that you're in that makes the coach.
It's really how you present things and what you do. My high school coach used to just say, next man up.
That was his strategy. So if we had an injury, he'd just get in the locker room and go, hey, we're going next man up today.
We weren't very good. Did you have a lot of players? Did you ever run out of players? We never ran out of players, but we ran out of good players.
Like when I started playing, that's when it became an issue. I was not the next man up that should have been the next man up.
And I think that's something we have to adjust. The next player obviously might have enough talent, but I think what makes people good coaches is that they're able to maybe cover up maybe some of the things.
I'm sure they probably had to do a lot of covering up when you went in. Well, they just used me as a scout team fullback, and they said run straight ahead and get your ass kicked.
You were a fullback? Scout team. So basically – Which is actually more important than the starting fullback.
So you probably started off at like 6'3", then became a fullback, and then now you're down. My spine got compressed.
The spine got compressed. That's what it was.
I'm going to start saying that I'm 6'3". I want to get into something real quick here because we had Sean McVay on the show like three months ago, I think, out in Grit Week, and he said that he had some words with you.
Really? He said that he wanted to coach for you at Syracuse and that you took his resume and put it at the bottom of the pile. Yeah, we had this whole discussion at the head coach's league meeting.
So we have this meeting. So there's a bunch of us now around the table.
And, you know, he's like, yeah, you wouldn't even hire me. I'm like, well, let me ask you a question.
Who recommended you? So he says, well, this coach recommended me. I said, that's absolutely why I didn't hire you i and everyone at the table agreed with me okay yeah so it was it was a coach there um who recommended him that um coach that was coach with me at syracuse and i wound up you know having to make a move but um he's the one that recommended him and i think if any other coach would have recommended you know sean yeah i think you would have had a chance i said that's why you got to be careful and anyone out there was thinking make sure you know you know who's recommending you for the jobs and i said i was always brought up to that if i wanted a job i would never have anyone else call for me i would always call myself so i would call myself and say hey listen i'm so and so this is what i want to do i'm looking for a job and then if there was interest then i i'd give them references right you know i i think so i was like sean you gotta be more you know you gotta get going when you were younger but now he is so he's great but i he's done a great job and i don't hold again but you know he he tries he he busts my my chops yeah i've always like those types of coach meetings i just assume that it's everybody in a room together just busting each other's balls just making fun of each other when i'm around that i mean that that's how i that's how i am yeah you know what i'm saying i mean you know you know myself and you know bill o'brien and rabel even though we're in the same division yeah you know we'll sit around and we'll bust each other's chops pretty good and then but it never gets to you know we never talk about our players or the or the teams we just talk about like you know i'll look at someone else i'll and be like, oh my God, look at that bathing suit.
I can't, you know, Sean now, Sean's a great dresser, right? Look at me. I mean, you're probably the best you're going to see right now.
People say that the NFC West is the hottest division in terms of coaches. I think it's actually your division.
You got you, you got Vrabel, you got O'Brien. Well, Vrabel represents us because, you know, he's lifting still, working out,'s lifting still and working out working with the players today what did you see mike vrabel's quote today what did he say he said he would cut his penis off for a super bowl straight up said that well let me ask you would you you're dumbfounded he actually said that he said he's he's been married for 20 years so he doesn't need it would you cut i was thinking the same thing i swear when he first said i'm thinking all right i have i have three children i love my wife would probably be happy if i did that he's one of my pinky bet yeah yeah that's what i'm saying my wife would be like yeah well yeah cut that shit off we got a super bowl i mean you can just say that you would cut mike very well's penis off for a super no no no i'm not going there i'm not going there all right so i have a question there's going to be a very weird question but you mentioned the coaches' meetings.
I am obsessed with the coaches' picture that you guys take annually. Excuse me, guys.
Oh, here we go. Julie's got the fried bologna.
I like it. Yep, fried bologna.
Here you go. I love it.
Walk me through the coaches' picture when you guys all get out there and they face you into the sun and everyone looks a little disheveled. Some guy's looking good not looking so good how does that all go down and do you guys realize how ridiculous it is every year yeah i don't like i i don't like when when you're a rookie head coach you know you go in there and you have an itinerary and they're like okay you have you have this picture and you're like my first thought was why are we taking this picture For me and then it was for me to blog it pretty much yeah well first of all i didn't know it even would go out to anyone oh yeah i had no idea that oh yeah so like my first year i'm like well you know and then they send me a picture and i'm like well i got a picture what's this for to prove that you know that i coach in the nfl yes you know then it was like you know well shit if i get my picture taken who am i going to sit next to? Oh, yeah.
So basically, whoever you're walking with from the meeting, you know what I'm saying, to that is important. But also, then what happens, I start thinking, well, shit, if I'm in the back and I'm next to like, I think I was next to Coach Harbaugh, and I'm like, know, he looks good.
I mean, he's in good shape, you know. I'm like – you know, then you start thinking, okay, wait, I got to put a striped shirt on.
Oh, no, this year – yeah, okay. You know, I got to put a striped shirt on.
I got to do whatever I can to make myself look skinnier. I got to do whatever I can to make sure I'm not like Richard Nixon and I'm sweating my ass off, you know, and I got pits showing and everything.
So then I'm like, if I sit down, I think I can cover my gut better. So strategically, I go in there.
When I break that meeting and I'm on my way over there, then I start thinking, okay, I got to get this thing right. But then you're right.
You're standing in the sun and you hit it. But I never thought it went out.
And then afterwards, my assistant will come in and go, oh, here's your head coaching pitcher. I'll be like, oh, okay, that's great.
I'm going to file it right over there. Yeah.
I don't know where that works. I was on the end.
You know the end? The end. More leg room.
All right, so this is what I wrote about you. The Everyone's Dad on Graduation Day award goes to Doug Marone.
He's hot. He's sweaty.
He forgot his sunglasses, so he's constantly squinting, and his handshake will break his daughter's boyfriend's forearm. That's Doug Marone.
These are the nicest clothes he owns, and while he's happy to be here to see his little sweetheart on graduation day, he really just wants to be back home in his recliner with a bag of Lay's and some homemade onion dip. Do you think I nailed that? I think you nailed it.
Yeah, Doug definitely showed up 45 minutes early so you get a good seat, a.k.a. the one on the end where he has the most space.
There it is. No doubt.
There it is. I put a it yes i do yes i love that everything he says right i love that my daughter is now going to be a senior my other daughter is going to be a freshman and have you have you shook her so the one time there was one guy you know okay the first guy and my friend john was here he taught he taught me he taught me a lot too because his daughter's older and she's graduated now from college.
So I'm like, hey, how do you handle this stuff? Because, you know, it's just hard. Because, you know, I want to make sure he understands, you know, that this is my daughter.
And then I didn't know what to say, so I just told him. I said, look, if you mistreat my daughter, I promise you, I will do everything in my power to ruin your life.
That's good. You know, because I was trying to watch my word.
I don't want, you know, you're the head coach. You know, you got to be careful.
And it's plus my size. So I always try to make sure I'm, you know, I'm like, and I don't smile, which I don't normally do anyway, but I don't smile and I don't really talk to them.
And then when they try to strike conversation, I'm just, I look at like, why are you talking to me? Don't you ever talk to me. Everything you said we already knew.
You treat them like a little bit. Yeah.
But I think all of us that are dads are like that. You know what I'm saying? As a dad myself now, man, I'll tell you.
I'm just going to say dad to dad, I see what you're saying. Yep.
Just wanted to say that. We need to get this out in the open before this conversation gets a little bit too deep.
You guys, I'll tell you this. You know why you guys are good? Because we soften you.
Because we soften you. We feed you below the softballs.
Hey, Doug, how do you think the Yankees are doing? How about those Yanks? How about those Yanks? And then all of a sudden it's like, wham, here comes the trap. Here comes the trap.
You ever hear about gotcha journalism? This is gotcha journalism. We're best friends with Blake Bortles.
Yeah, I love Blake good start you good start just with him at a wedding okay you guys bury the hatchet you guys on good terms because anybody that mistreats blake we take that as a mistreatment of ourselves but then you should feel good about that knowing that we're we like you we're good friends with you so if anybody testament to us as mature adults as mature adults to not pick sides yes we're loyal um but i just want to make sure that things are okay between yeah you did you you buttered us up right i broke it but yeah i mean you know it's always tough and and you're pulling for for someone especially someone like blake you know his toughness um is i mean it's it's it's the greatest trade he has it really is and you, I probably could have done a better job. And I've told that to Blake.
So we had good discussions. We had a discussion when he left, and I saw him the other day.
And it's, you know, I have a ton of respect for him. It's the business aspect of it, which is tough.
I wish him the best. I think that, you know, he'll do well.
I really do. I think he'll play in this league for a long time.
I think he'll get another opportunity. I think he'll take advantage of it.
That's how I feel. And it's not like with a lot of these players when those things happen, the business part of it.
You don't – it always hurts that – I always look back and say, I wish I could have done something better or I wish I could have had better players around him or I wish I could have done this or called this or did that. The only time that you really sit there and you're like, hey, listen, I'm glad that this guy's gone is when the guy's a bad guy and a bad teammate where he's not a team guy.
The rest of them, whether they're good enough or not, that's what hurts. Guys that give you everything they have.
They give you great effort. They show toughness.
And, you know, but at the end of the day, you know, you're trying to change you're trying to do a lot uh to get different results and you know it's part of it because it just goes it's like like anything else if if you know if you don't win then you know you know who's next well you know i'm next you know so i'll be the guy to go and and and that's how it is so it's the reality of the profession but i try to take the you know you know is it personal yeah personal because, you know, you're dealing with families and things of that nature. And, and, and that's what's, uh, you know, that's, that's, what's difficult.
That, that's what, you know, you take a step back and you're like my responsibility towards the organization, you know, my responsibility for the people I've hired, my responsibility as a coach. And, you know, that, that, that's the stuff at the end of the day that people don't see, you know, that know that that weighs on I can't speak for everyone but you know for me that that weighs on me a lot so Blake told us that he is friends with Cody Kessler so he we respect his wishes to not bash Cody Kessler but this would be the portion of the podcast that I would say coach how the hell did you start Cody Kessler over Blake Bortles but I'm not say that.
So I'm not going to say that. I just wanted to say that, that I'm not going to say that.
Thanks for saying that. Thanks for not saying that.
Yes, exactly. So you just touched on something.
But it's the same thing. It's like you'll see the quarterback gets – I always said the same thing, and we've heard it.
It's a cliche. They get too much of the credit and they get too much of the blame.
And a lot of times when you're looking to shake things up

and you're looking to do things, that's the position that comes to it.

And when you're looking to shake a team up and you're looking to do things,

sometimes it's the head coach.

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that.

So, I mean, it could be me.

And it's not like, hey, it's him before me.

You're literally trying to do things to get a spark to to get the people around to play better or whatever we want to say around them to have to do it but you know it also puts a lot of other people on warning saying hey listen if you don't respond if we can do this to this guy who's a who's a great in my opinion who's a great guy who's tough as shit you know that's one football game for us in the past you know but if if we're going to do that to him we can do it to everybody else you know and then obviously it exposes me yes so you you mentioned that and i'm always curious about this because in like the football media world we love to do the like who's on the hot seat going into the season before we even play a game do you see that stuff do you i mean i you're yeah i don't wear i don't going on but i i've learned this a long like so now this is whatever going into my my four years of syracuse two in buffalo going into my third year here so it's it's it's you learn as you go across so like a lot of times early on someone will say oh yeah hey do you see that article there's a good article about you and and you're young you're like shit, who doesn't like reading something good about it? Of course. So you look at it, and you're like, oh, yeah.
But then all of a sudden, you scroll down. I would say, don't scroll down.
Yep. Then you scroll down, and you're like, that guy's an ass.
That guy's a jerk. Oh, the comment section.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And then all of a sudden, I start getting pissed. Yeah.
But now all of a sudden, decisions start going on. So I learned a long time ago not to look at that.
But but i always tell people the same thing especially this is the most volatile business you can be in really coaching if you win sometimes you can be safe there are coaches that have won games that that have been fired coaches that have been to the playoffs that have been fired marty schottenheimer marty uh mike malarkey in tennessee and mike and i are good friends i mean, you know, but I approach it this way. I'm fighting to keep my job every single day.
So every time I go into work, I'm trying to prove that I'm worthy of a job. You know, and every time we're playing a game, I'm trying to prove that I'm worthy.
And at the end of the day, I'm doing the best job I can. And if it's not good enough, then they're going to let me go and bring somebody else in.
No hard feelings towards ownership. No hard feelings towards management.
That's just the way it is. So, you know, I think when you accept those things and you go about your business, because the worst thing you can do is start worrying or start making decisions or things are out of control or start responding to the media or you get upset.
I mean, you know, if you start off and you're not doing well and someone's like, well, they should fire this guy. Yeah.
If you don't expect someone to say that, then you're probably in the wrong profession. You know, if you play shitty and someone's like, you know, this guy stinks.
They can't play. He's a terrible coach.
Of course they're going to say that. You know, so that's just the business.
And that's the business that I always tell us that, you know, the coaches and everyone else that we've chosen. So if you can't live with that and you can't live in that type of world, then don't choose coaching.
Stay the hell out of it. Great football guy answer.
That's why you're a football guy. It is, exactly.
When you drafted at number 11 this year, were you told to pick a player named Josh Allen? Seven. Seven.
Oh, seven. Don't screw me up like that.
I was like, holy shit, does he know something that just happened? Wait, so Josh Allen last year and this year were sevens. Yeah.
Do you have to pick a player named Josh Allen at seven? When you say you have to pick a player like Josh Allen, you have to pick eight Josh Allen. Josh Allen at seven.
Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback. I.
Yeah, I don't – that's stuff you guys know about. I don't look at that.
We care too much about that stuff. I was like, hey, did you guys think he was going to fall to you or whatever? Yeah, that was nice.
I'll ask that. Were you surprised? I think, you know, Coach Goplin, Dave Carwell, the GM, the Scouts, you know, they do a good job.
We come in late, and that's the one thing. So we as coaches come in late in the evaluation period.
Because you think, like, they've already started on next year's draft. You know, and they're starting, and we're getting ready to play the season.
And then, you know, you go through all these different scenarios. Like, okay, you go through whoever players you like, and if these guys drop, would you take them? Yes, we take them.
If not, we're doing this. So there's a lot of discussion.
And I always say the same thing. Like I'll bust a little bit of chops when no one's, you know, when there's just a couple of scouts, I'd be like, yeah, hey, you know, we got a couple of days before we make this decision.
You know, it's not like the 42nd clock where we got to make a decision every, you know, when that referee spots that ball and you got to go. You know, and then the rounds come and it's like, ooh, man, we got what, an hour and a half Right.
So, but I think it is, they do a good job. They work hard.
They try to get all the scenarios. And, you know, a lot of times it's interesting how those, when you look at the boards, and I've been at, let's see, three different organizations.
Yep. Three different organizations where, you know, it's amazing how they all come off that board.
And it's pretty much the same, you know, as far as how it's getting drafted and going so I think obviously they do a good job and I still think it's tough to pick someone and project them saying in the NFL when I was a college coach we would do that but it was kind of fun we can move people so when I was at Syracuse, we'd always say, hey, listen, I'll take as many running backs. I'll sign five or six running backs.
If they're small, I can make them receivers. If they're big, I can make them linebackers.
You know what I'm saying? I can move these guys around. I can take big corners, make them safeties, big safeties, make them linebackers, big middle linebackers, make them down linemen, outside pass rushers, inside linemen, on and on and on.
And you can do that and you can get great exposure. But at the NFL, the time is so short to do that that when you take someone, you've got to project what they're going to do for you right away, and that player still has to get out there and perform.
It's almost a detriment if you draft a guy who you don't fully know where he's going to fit in the NFL. Yeah.
And you're like the in-betweener of two positions. Like when you say, hey, listen, this guy's a great athlete.
Let's find a spot for him. Right, or it's a safety, but a cornerback? Maybe not.
Who knows? And those guys usually get washed out. The safety linebacker is the one that you see a lot, like Jabril Peppers.
You know, you can project him to be like they always say Troy Palomalo. But, yeah, if you happen upon a Troy Palomalo in the draft, you take him every single time because he's obviously a legend of the game.
But I've always wondered why those kind of undersized linebackers, big safeties, don't translate to the NFL. Yeah, I think – so when I was coming out in the 80s, and you always think of – I used to watch on TV like Mel Blunt from Pittsburgh, and you watch the guys from Denver that played safeties at water, and those guys are big, big hitters and big-time players.
And I think from a coverage standpoint with the man-to-man, things have started to change. So from a coverage standpoint, the offenses have changed.
So it's become more spread. It's become more three-receiver sets, things of that nature.
You have much more more you know vertical routes going and you still have to you know obviously you have enough guys in the box for the run game so you know you're seeing now like you know when I was in the AFC East and we're playing teams there and I was in Buffalo you know it was important for us to make sure that all of our linebackers were you know we wanted to struggle with our decision of which guy we taking off the field and nickel we wanted all our three linebackers have man-to-man coverage ability we wanted our safeties that man-to-man coverage ability you know to match up against the teams we needed to in AFC East to win so you know we took a guy like Aaron Williams who's a corner and moved them to to safety but he had corner type ability you know for us that can play man-to-man so you know we look to that and I think I think progressively that you see that you know not on every team but you see that with you know the four three teams the three four teams sometimes you know they have the two inside linebackers and the two outside linebackers those outside linebackers convert to pass rushers as they go so but you're seeing a little bit of diversity in the play but you're seeing more of you know a greater value put on players that are three down players that can play man-to-man, play zone, pressure, do those things.

And – of, you know, a greater value put on players that are three down players that can play man-to-man, play zone, pressure, do those things, and keep other teams off balance. And if you're not like that and you're just a really dominant player, then it doesn't matter.
Yeah, okay, this guy's going on the field and we're pressuring him. He's coming.
Right. Okay, fine.
Okay, you still got to block him. You know, you still got to win.
Even though you know someone's coming and you what they're doing, you've still got to be able to go out there and perform. And I'm assuming that Coughlin has a lot to do with these player evaluations, things like that.
Has he showed any signs of slowing down? No, no. Him, and like I said, you know, between him, he does, you know, obviously he's looking at it.
He's above myself and Dave. You know, he's above both the football side and the scouting side.
So he's looking at everything from those perspectives. Dave Caldwell does a great job looking at those players along with the scouts and the pro department.
The coaching staff you have and our primary job is to make sure that we prepare the players that we have. Don't worry about all the other stuff.
We'll write reports and we'll have a say in it. And we appreciate that as coaches.
But our job is the players that we have to develop them to make them players. That's where I think that's the difference in coaching.
I think a lot of guys can go and look at a book, find the words, go out there on the field, coach the players through the book or the PowerPoint presentations. But the job of the coach is to take, you know, I always think the definition of a coach is to take a player where he can't take himself.
To me, that's the definition of a coach. So I always, when I was a position coach, I wanted to get the most out of these players and get more value out of them for the organization.
But I also wanted to get them to be the best they can be and just keep hammering them, hammering them, hammering them, and taking them to the next level. I was fortunate at the Jets.
Kevin Wise going into the Hall of Fame this year. I've had to work our schedule a little bit.
I won't be able to go up there for the enshrinement ceremony, but I'll go up there for the gold jacket dinner. He invited me up there, which is important.
Curtis is up there. And then I've had a bunch of guys that were with me in New Orleans, offensive linemen, that may come up next for that.

Like I said, I've coached all those

players the same. It's not like you coach

one player differently, meaning that

I'm going to coach you to be a Pro Bowl player. I'm going to coach you

to be a starter. Hey, I'm going to coach you to get cut.

You coach them all the same and their talent

go. But again,

you're trying to

since it's a salary cap system, there's some positions that you have to develop you know how many linemen are you going to spend money on three out of five you know but if you're spending three out of five where you're going to put the money into well these other guys you better develop right you know your number one wide receiver well you better develop some receivers you Now, can you develop a pass rusher? That's tough.

Can you develop a cover corner?

That's tough.

Can you develop a quarterback?

That's tough.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, you'll see that those guys, when it comes down to the draft,

they're going to go up and get those guys that can perform at that position.

Do you think that Tom Coughlin knows what a podcast is?

Oh, I don't know.

I can't speak for him.

I don't know.

We want to get him on Part of My Take eventually. Call Call Ted or call Dan Edwards, whoever handles that.
Yeah. All right, I got one last question.
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All right, football guy to football guy. How excited are you for the start of training camp? That first day, do you get chills still down your spine when you're just like, here we go, football is back, the grass, the sprinklers are going, you see the helmets out there? How good does that feel? Yeah, you can keep chewing.
He's chewing. We're eating bologna.
He's chewing. We're eating bologna.
Keep chewing. My favorite part, when it sticks to the top of your – is good my favorite part when it sticks up there that's when you know the bread is fresh thank you so much the american cheese also helps you stick a little bit yeah it's like a little binder sticks right up there you know i think so here's what happens all right everyone at the end of the year you're working to get all the schedules done meaning for you know training camp so you're working like hell so you can kind of get take a little break and kind of get away from it so then the first couple days after the mandatory minute camp you know once everything's set so you're set for training camp so we have our schedule set from now all the way to the end of the season and hopefully into you know the playoffs and and and the Super Bowl run.
So that schedule is all set up. Every single day, like if you said, hey, Doug, what are you doing on November 28th or December 18th at 4 o'clock? I could probably tell you if I looked at my schedule.
So a lot of planning goes into that. So then the first seven to eight days that you're off, then you're kind of acclimating back into your family so you get into the house and it's like you know hey wait a minute you haven't lived here for the past couple months no that no why are you putting a spoon there no that doesn't go there so you're like now there's a lot of tension a lot of stress right different type of stress a lot of stress right but then after that when you settle in those next seven or eight, best days ever.
You're kind of in the flow. You're with the family.
Nothing's going on. It's kind of a dead period because a lot of people take vacations the first week of July and the second week after the fourth, right? So those two weeks are probably the best two weeks.
Nothing's going on. Relax.
Then after that, you're like, oh, shit, here it comes. You start hearing.
You're in the car.

Guys come back from vacation.

They start predicting, but it's not.

Then you come in there. Hey, what's going to

happen here? What's going on there?

Then all of a sudden, I don't know

the first day. I like to get rolling first

because the first couple days, you've got to

get physicals out of the way,

conditioning out of the way,

all kinds of league rules and stuff like that that you've got to talk to the team about you know and then once all that stuff goes and we kind of get into it like a rhythm you know saying or or a system of what we want to do that's when i feel it's going and um but i always like it because i always try to get up there and you know you know our first practice i try to play like the boys Fall by Chesney. You know what I'm saying? And that's when I get really good.
Get the vibe going. Yeah, I get a good vibe.
I like that. You start hearing the grit.
You start hearing the pads collide a little bit. Close your eyes.
The whistles. Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of nice, right? Just thinking about that. I think like the song says it all.
I mean, you know, the smell of the grass, you know, which, you know, it's funny. So the other day I was back in Jacksonville.

I'm driving by and I'm going by the state.

I'm like, holy shit, the grass.

So I'm trying to figure this out.

I got to talk to my grounds guys because they're awesome.

But so they've been watering a seed in this grass for like months, right?

I mean, no one goes on the game field.

It's perfect.

I mean, it really is beautiful, you know. And then all of a sudden, I guess, you know, so we got the stones coming in on the 18th, I think, of July.
So I think they ripped up the grass. I'm like, well, shit, I got to ask them, why were they seeding it and cutting it and doing all that shit and just to rip it up? I don't know if they put it somewhere and they're going to put it back in or not.
Maybe a football game breaks out. But I'll tell you what, I do love I do love that smell of grass.
Yep. You know what I'm saying? What's going on out there? And like I always said before, people always say water doesn't have a taste to it.
I always tell people they've never gone through double sessions. Well, we don't go through it now, but truly double sessions in the heat because I'll never forget when I was in Miami, we were going through double sessions with Coach Shuler.
That was the best damn taste in water I've ever had in my life. Did you guys have the water horse where it would be nine holes punctured in? That was in college.
In college, we had it against the fence. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? And you're looking over there and you see it going. Because in college, they would actually blow a whistle, and then you'd have water.
You look back in the past and you're like, holy cow. Now we have water available all the time hydration is such a key for soft tissue and all the other stuff so water's available all the time but like i think about when i was growing up i'm like you know we you know you know this is bullshit you guys aren't doing it you're not no water break today get your asses out there i'm like can you go out there and play yeah you don't say now you if you did that forget about it yeah today more all right i have one last question bologna sandwiches do you prefer the uh the standard bread like this or do you like the footlong the nick fulls style i think when i when i go when i go um out in other words if i'm going to order it and i'm going to be on a bus or a plane um i'm going to go with that bread okay okay and i'm going to do it more during the week.
At the end of the week, I don't do that because, you know, Sunday growing up was, you know, obviously macaroni and gravy. You know what I'm saying? Gravy.
Yeah. So we always had to have fresh Italian bread.
Bread sauce. And then I'll get the Italian bread during it.
But there's nothing like, like I said, when it sticks to the top of your mouth, the bread, that's when you know it's good-ass bread. for me you know that that was that that was always important so i go with that when i'm out and i go with this because i never trust other people like you know some people are really good at picking vegetables and feeling them and stuff like that yeah i'm okay with that but what i'm good at the damn bread yeah i can touch that bread and feel that bread and be like, wait a minute.
I'm like, no, I'm taking this one right here. You know what you do with a stale one? You just break it up.
You turn into stuffing or dressing depending on where you're from. Listen, slimy bologna, you fry.
Yep. Right? So when the bologna gets slimy.
Stale bread, French toast. Oh, yeah.
That's a good point. There you go.
Because how many times are you going to eat stuffing yeah you're the greenest coach out there yeah i don't know about greenest i'm i'm just saying when you don't have much no you use every part of the buffalo no i'm saying yeah yeah i gotta tell like for me everyone's like i always love to cook because you know both my parents worked so i would you know i'd come home and stuff and i'd be like oh shit well okay wait a minute there's the macaroni cheese i macaroni cheese, I get that, wait a minute, there's some hot dogs, let me cut those hot dogs up, wait a minute, there's some lentil beans, wait, I like lentils, lentils, cut hot dogs into lentils, so I do that stuff all the time. Yeah.
All right, coach, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Appreciate it, yeah, best of luck this year. Enjoy Billy Joel tonight too.
Yeah, enjoy Billy Joel. Billy Joel tonight.
Yeah, I know. Appreciate the sandwiches.

Always love coming by.

You guys got to come down, though.

Yes.

Back to the pool.

Hopefully I can win games and be there.

Yeah, we'll be there.

Yes.

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Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest. Yay, yay.
Ice Cube. Yay, yay.
He's back. It was cracking.
You don't remember us. I do.
There's a point. I remember that long hair.
Okay, there's going to be a point in this interview where you will remember us because we're going to bring up something that happened the last time. All right.
But we are have you back the big three yes season what is season three season three is off and running yes you guys have been blowing up i feel like this is the like the first two seasons were a success but this is the season where everyone's looking at it like whoa this is really a great thing and they're getting big time names good you know that's where we want. You know, we want to be in the lexicon, so to speak, of sports.
So how has it worked getting those bigger names, guys recruiting each other? You had, you know, Coutinho Mobley, which I love his beard. You're like, that's an old guy, but I love it.
Joe Johnson is playing. Yes.
Glenn Davis. How are you getting bigger and bigger guys as you progress? They want to hoop.
That's it? It's simple. Guys, the first year we knew guys would sit and watch.
The second year, guys wanted to play, but it was too late because we was already in it, and guys was like, well, I want to play. I'm going to come up there next week.
And we're like, dude, it ain't a celebrity game.

Right.

It's a league.

It's not a pick-up game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You got to sign up.

You got to get picked.

You got to get a contract.

You can't just pop up.

Right.

It's pretty great the way that you guys have done it because I think the first season

there were a lot of highlights that made it out there,

and not only did it get the attention of some players that might want to play

once they're done in the NBA or make the switch,

I think just everybody started talking about it in general.

I noticed you – were you on Get Up this morning?

Yeah, I was on Get Up.

How is my man Greeny doing?

He's like my best friend.

We've never met, but he's like my best friend.

I think he was on vacation.

Yeah, yeah.

He actually wasn't there today.

That's disappointing.

But, you know, it's been good, you know, trying to get the sport in the right place, pushing it, you know, having the players buy in. We had a lot of players come, you know, NBA players come out to the games and they want to be a part of it.
So we had to expand the 12 teams, play two nights a week. I like it.
What's your official title with the league? Founder. Co-founder.
I like it. Now, do you call the – are there team owners or governors? No.
So how are the – how is each individual team run then? They're ran by the players. I like that.
That's nice. I like that.
So the captain is the head of the team, but he has two co-captains and a coach.

Between them, they get the things ran.

As serious as you take it, it's as serious as you go in the league.

If you take it dead serious, you might win a championship.

As the founder, how much do you listen, especially after that first season,

to feedback from fans?

What's working, what's not?

Did you make any changes? Oh, yeah listening to the fans is is very critical you know I don't want to know what the fans like about the league you know I mean I want to know what the fans think can be improved so we can analyze it and figure it out and get the people what they want okay so here's one that I want to be improved. I want Lamar Odom to stay in the league.
Well, I do too. Okay.
You know, but he has to be able to play at this level. Like I said, it's not a celebrity game.
Guys are going hard. Guys are training.
Guys are in shape. Guys are ready to play at this level.
So he has to be ready. So, you know know this year we felt that he wasn't ready to play and that doesn't mean he can't come out next year and and go for it you know whether he wants to or not that's on him but i wanted him in the league he wouldn't be in if we didn't want him what about fighting i've seen a couple clips this year where guys have been jawing back and forth are you cool with it do you want that to happen or do you think that's that's bad? I don't want no fight.
Oh, I do though as a fan. No, no.
We're doing the fan open forum here. No, no, no fights.
Trash talking, yeah. Okay.
All that is good. Smack talking.
You might get in each other's face a little now and then. No fighting.
But you guys should allow fighting so that everyone always complains that the NBA's gotten soft and the fights aren't real fights and it's not like the 80s and early 90s when teams would actually fight. You should go back to that and let them brawl.
Do you come to a basketball game to see a fight? It wouldn't be bad. If it happened, I'd be excited.
A little bonus. A little bonus.
Well, if it happens, it's going to happen just out of natural emotion. We're not going to encourage fighting or allow fighting.
And if you fight on my court, there's going to be a price to pay. There's going to be consequences for it.
Consequences and repercussions. As a fan, I would like to see kind of like an augmentation to the N1 rule where if you cross somebody up so bad that they fall down and then you hit the shot in their eye, that's an extra point right there.
Oh, damn. That would be nice, right? Yeah, that would be nice.
We'll throw that in the suggestion box. What about if we had a coffin on the other end of the court? So if you get crossed up so bad, you have to go lay in the coffin for three minutes.
That's kind of funny. I like that.
That would be good. That would be funny.
You know, because everyone always does the skull emoji on Twitter and being like, oh, my God, he's dead. He took his soul.
Let's really take his soul. And then when they get out of the coffin, they're doing the Undertaker gif where they pop up.
Yeah. Not dead yet.
Now you're back. I'm back in the game.
Yes. Oh, wow.
Think about it. Just think about it.
He's a terrible idea. Do you want us on your board of governors or whatever you call it? Sure.
Why not? Okay. What's the pay? Nothing.
Who's the woad for the big three? Who's out there breaking all the news for you guys? Man, we got a guy named Oliver. I don't want to butcher his last name.
But, yeah, he's been like a day one diehard, you know, always kind of want to know what's the scoop, and he puts it out on the Internet, so it's kind of cool. I've got a dog that breaks news.
If you're looking for, like, a Woj that's really going to be, like, the guy that breaks news for the big three, my dog Leroy, he's an insider in a number of sports. You've probably already heard of him.
Oh, yeah? You're probably very familiar with him. He'll be happy to break any news that you guys have.
Okay, let me see a reel on him. You got one? A reel on Leroy? We can probably bring up a reel on.
Can somebody bring up when he got that piece of bread stuck on his back? That's pretty impressive. So I want to talk about the Lakers.
Yes. Are you going to be a Clippers fan now? Well, he is a Clippers fan.
You're never a Clippers fan. No, he's not a Clippers fan.
No, no. Marcellus Wiley told me that you were a Clippers fan.
Marcellus Wiley is an alcoholic. He's a heroin addict.
That's like calling you a Clippers fan. Yeah, I'm not.
I will never be a Dippers fan. Okay.
Matter of fact, they better watch State Back. Ooh.
Oh, shit. So were you mad that Kawhi didn't pick the Lakers? Because that was – I've said this before, but, you know, when you have the little brother, big brother relationship.
I wasn't mad. I felt sorry for him.
Oh. I felt sorry.
You're doing that. Even though you guys, the Lakers, have not made the playoffs in forever, you're like, I feel sorry for you? I feel sorry.
Yeah, I mean, I feel sorry for them. What is making the playoffs do if you don't win the chip? Well, the Lakers have been a joke recently.
Nobody's laughing now, though. Oh, okay.
I always say laugh now, cry later. Are you a full-on LeBron guy, or are you still like Kobe's better? Well, what do you mean by full-on LeBron guy? Well, I think it's been interesting to watch Laker fans.
I think LeBron has come in as slightly a mercenary and you can correct me if I'm wrong, where he's obviously a Laker. You're rooting for him.
He's an all-time great, but he's not a Laker Laker. He's not a Magic.
He's not a Kobe. He's not a guy who is there the whole time.
Not until he wins the chip. Okay, he's got to earn his Laker.
He's got to win the chip and then he'll be loved like all the Lakers that win it. Okay.
I mean, Kobe played 20 years for the Lakers, so nobody's going to come in there and disrupt that groove, not even Magic or Kareem. Kobe got his own lane.
Magic got his own lane. Kareem got his own lane.
You can't bump them off of what they've done. So, LeBron, a championship would get him the love and respect from Laker fans that all our champions get.
Do you talk to LeBron? No. Not a lot.
Not a lot? I mean, you know, when I see him, when we're doing something together, I did his show, then I talked to him. But am I calling him and asking him about stuff? And, you know, is he in my business? Am I in his business? No.
Who do you think is the alpha on that team right now? Is it LeBron's team or is it AD's team? I think it's LeBron's team. I mean, he's the veteran, and he has the championship.
So AD is going to have to learn how to do that. Have you ever been asked by anyone in the Lakers to go to, like, one of their pitches for free agents? No.
Would you? No. If Magic called you up and was like, hey, we could really use some celebrity fans here.
Nope. Why not? Because you're not going to blame me for not getting a player.
That's smart. You're not blaming me.
That is very smart. Limited upside to that.
It's like when the Raptors brought Drake in and they made him a big part of the pitch for Kawhi to stay there. And Kawhi decided not to.
That looks bad on Drake. It does.
Yes. And it's none of Drake business because Drake is not an owner of the Raptors.
Yeah. At a certain point, you got to be a fan and step back and stay in your lane.
Okay. Your football team.
Yes. Moving to Las Vegas.
Yes. How do you feel about their future? Are you still in on John Gruden? Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

I mean, I think, you know, when he was there the first time,

they shouldn't have let him go. But now that he's back, we'll see if they should have brought him back.

Yeah.

You know, the jury's still out.

Yeah.

Now, how does that work being a Raiders fan?

I know there are a lot of people in Los Angeles that will remain Raiders

or that have remained Raiders fans. Are they going to stick around through the move to Las Vegas once and forever yeah they'll be there I mean more people from LA go to Vegas than to Oakland that's true it's closer do you get nervous when there's an earthquake yeah I would be scared by that yeah I don't fuck with a scared depends on, it's two different kind of earthquakes.
It's like one that rolls, where it's just everything is kind of rolling. And then there's the herky-jerky, somebody picked up your house and dropping it.
Those are the ones. It's like chopped and screwed versus dubstep.
I guess, but those are the ones that are the ones that rattle your nerves is when they feel like somebody's picking up your house and dropping it you got to be scared of the big one right um i mean scared i don't know i ain't never been through it so i don't know how i'm gonna feel here's my theory is that california is such an awesome place to live, especially L.A. with the weather and everything like that, that everyone who doesn't live in L.A.
and doesn't live in California has to always remind people who live in California about the big one to make ourselves feel better. You're going to die in an earthquake, dude.
Oh, man. I'm not.
You are. You're going to die in a snowstorm.
It's the only thing that we have. It's really all we got.
So we got to do it. We got to remind you.
That's cool.'s cool you know i guess everybody gotta have their reason not to like a place it's just purely bitterness on our yeah yeah that's all it is gotta make yourself feel bad i'm mad about all those 70 degree days when the sun is out so just remember one of those 70 degree days where the sun is out the whole state's gonna fall in the ocean that ain't how it happens it's usually one of those quiet days that feel funky oh you can feel are you like like how dogs can feel earthquakes you feel your knees yeah well no not like that but my wife went the day we we just had these earthquakes out there and my wife was like it's too still out there i don't hear birds i don't hear nothing it's like fuck it's one of themerie quiet days. You wake up and you don't hear nothing.
And you're like, something's coming because nothing's outside moving. Yes, yes.
You know, so. I believe that.
I want to get into a little bit of your acting career. You're an esteemed actor.
Do you think you're a better actor than your son? Yep. Oh, okay.
How much work does he have to do to catch up to his dad? About 20 years. So it's a longevity thing.
Yeah, I mean, I got more experience. Were you impressed the first time that you saw him on the big screen? Yep, very impressed.
Yeah. He's a good actor.
I mean, he does things, he does certain things, you know, better than me. Yeah.
Would you be in Space Jam 2? I got to look at the script. It depends on what part it is.
And, you know, I got to kind of know about the movie making part of it. So far we've got what Don Cheadle said that he would be in it yesterday.
Dwight Howard told us he'd be in it if he was asked. So that's like a big three right there.
But any basketball player better jump in it. I don't know.
See, I think LeBron doesn't have the same pull that he had five years ago. What pull? What does a pull got to do with it? You're not coming to be a part of LeBron's team.
Well, it's his movie. You're actually being in a movie that the man is in.
Yeah, no, it's his movie, though. I feel like he doesn't have the same.
It's a different chapter of his career. He is not – you know, when he was in his late 20s, early 30s, the league revolved around LeBron.
This past year, missing the playoffs and having the Lakers kind of fumble a little bit, it doesn't feel like the league totally revolves around LeBron anymore. Yeah, well, that's kind of a good thing.
Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, no, I'm excited for this next season.

Yeah, it's a good thing.

You know, so he should be fine with that.

Are you worried at all about Kawhi taking over Staples Center?

No.

He's the guy who would do it, a robot.

No.

If he does it, he's going to do it Kawhi-atly.

So I ain't worried about it.

How many championships would the Clippers have to win for, like, LA to shift to a Clipper town 17 yeah there you go they'd have to go 17 in a row probably yeah for people to start saying it's no longer a Laker I don't know I feel like if they get two in a row if they rip off two in a row right now things are going to change a little bit in LA yeah Yeah, a little bit. Because everyone loves a winner.

We'll have, yeah, a little bit.

They'll have two.

We'll have 16.

Looking into like a crystal ball,

how many barbershops are we going to end up with?

Please say like eight, nine, three.

Come on.

I don't know if another one will happen.

They're all good.

Just keep making them.

They're all good.

Yeah.

You got to keep thinking of stories that,

Thank you. nine three come on i don't know if another one that happened they're all good just keep making good yeah you got to keep thinking the stories that make it a good reason to go back into the barbershop your hair got too long let's do a two-hour movie two-hour movie about just just a guy getting his hair cut go there you gotta sit because you gotta wait there should be a white barbershop where it's just like a guy getting his hair cut and Go there.
You got to sit because you got to wait. There should be a white barbershop where it's just like a guy getting his haircut and then somebody like just in total silence.

No, yeah.

Like 30 minutes and then they accidentally bump their balls up against you

and you both get uncomfortable.

Yeah.

That's what happens when white people make that movie.

It's a guy who's kind of balding.

So his barber, like maybe the start of it is the barber feeling a little bit

awkward.

He's like, I don't really want to give him a haircut.

Makes a couple of faces to him. And then it's just silence.
You guys are terrible script. He's like, I don't really want to give him a haircut.
Makes a couple faces to him.

And then it's just silence.

You guys are terrible script writers.

Well, we're working on it.

See, our idea is to pitch you these terrible scripts to make our ideas for the big three sound even better by comparison.

I get it.

I get it now.

I got the philosophy.

How many more Fridays are we going to get?

I don't know.

You know, we're going to get one more for sure.

And you never know. You know, if that one, people love it, why not do another? I've always wondered about those movies because I know in Hollywood, they come up with, like, fake weed for you to smoke on set so you don't stay high all the time.
Do you guys ever just say, fuck that, we're just going to smoke a real joint? Well, we smoke real weed in our trailer and then come out and smoke the fake weed. so they're doing a really good job by giving you fake weed to keep you not high yeah how does it like at this point of your career are you uh when you decide what you want to do in terms of work wise whether it be movies whether it be big three are you a little bit more picky or are you just like i love to work and i want to keep working i've always been picky you know i've always been like you know can i make this better can i you know can i is my presence gonna make this project better if not then i don't want to do it yeah yeah then i'll start looking and figuring out okay this is something i can do and do.
And when you read a script, are you like, this is it?

If you see something, you're like, you know right away? Or do you have to sometimes, you know, sometimes someone can, like, wear you down. Like, we're going to wear you down on a couple scripts.
Would eventually you be like, fine, I'll fucking make this movie? Or is it just a, I'm in love with this script or I'm not? Sometimes it's, I'm in love with it, let's roll. But, you know, I mean mean my manager talked me into doing three kings you know which was a cool movie i did with with uh it was a great george cloney and mark walberg but reading it i'm like man you know i don't i don't see it maybe like oh this is gonna be great so and i met with the director and saw what kind of movie he wanted to make then it was like

okay i can see it now the script didn't tell me what it was gonna be yeah or what was it about the script of anaconda that you were like i want to be in this fucking movie the black man didn't die that was it i was like what i said i'll only be in the movie if i live through the whole movie And so, you know, I was like, yeah, you can, you know, go ahead.

I said, I'll only be in the movie if I live through the whole movie. Uh-huh.
And so, you know, I was like, yeah, you can, you know, go ahead. I said, okay.
And I get to kill the snake, me and Jennifer. Yeah.
Great movie. That snake.
That snake kept, that gave me nightmares. Terrifying.
The snake, it's the animatronic thing, you know, weighed about a ton. You know, it was like heavy because it was hooked up to this computer.
One day the snake malfunctioned and almost killed Jennifer Lopez on the set. They couldn't stop it and it just started tearing up the set.
We were really scared of this damn thing. It was like, y'all got it? Is the computer working? Everything going to malfunction malfunction because it's this thick and it's made of metal wrapped in like a tire so it's hard as shit you know i mean and yo we was like this thing about the you know they have it right there and we're like man this thing's just gonna malfunction it bust my nose open you know because it just went crazy and so it had a lot of glitches in it.
So we was really scared of that damn fake snake. I feel like that would be that story if someone, like, died from a big fake snake.
It'd be like, well, that kind of made sense. They were tempting, like, God there by just making this incredible, huge fake snake.
Thank you. Pretending that it's not a real snake.
And it killed somebody for real. And then it killed you.

The real snake. The damn snake made more money than us.
It took him like

seven, ten million dollars to make

that damn thing. I'm like, what?

You delivered one of my favorite lines

in movie history in that film

and it was, I think it was, damn

the axe fell out. After you

hit it with the axe, that's how we knew that the anaconda wasn't

dead yet when it swam away. Damn.
I thought it was, is snakes out here that big? Everybody. In a minute.
That's also a great line. It's a good one, yeah.
All right, wrapping up. So I alluded to it at the beginning of the show that we were going to do something that you'd probably then click, oh, I remember these guys.
So we're going to do it right now, and that is PFT wrote a rap. So I don't know if you remember, but last time you were on, he wrote you a rap.
Well, it's freestyle. It's freestyle.
Freestyle. I'm like Black Thought.
I don't know if you remember this, but last time we tried it, it didn't go so well. I think you probably were like, I don't know about these guys.
I think you said I was terrible. Yeah, terrible.
No, you said I was bad, but like the cool way that people feel it.

Yeah, you're like,

that cat's bad.

You guys are bad.

Okay.

Like that.

It's a freestyle.

Are you ready for it?

I'm going to do the beat again.

Do I get a chance

to return it?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

Please do.

All right, here we go.

Hit me.

You better step back

when you step to PMT.

Hank's a cat killer. Big cat keeps realer.
I'll go bananas on your ass. I'm a tiny old gorilla.
Paper thin windows making noise all night like graduation. Sigma come loud to the mic.
PMT we ride together. We're separating never.
Protect this town forever. This shit's hot like the weather.
Tank's so hot they're going to make you sweat. Today was a good day but it's not done yet.
Yeah, yeah. Damn! No, that was actually pretty good, yeah.
You actually have flow on that. I mean, the beat bites me.
Yeah, well, I didn't know he was gonna go that fast. No, the beat helped me out.
Like, anyone could sound good over that. I also can't do the I get out of breath.
Yeah. You know how it is.
But yeah, the rhyme was it was way tighter than last time. What was last time i forget i probably started out by saying like my name's pmt and i'm here to say yeah yeah yeah and i'm here to say yeah uh has anybody ever actually started a rap song by saying that i wrote my first rap ever that was my line no no it was i want you to know He wasn't, and I'm here to say.
My name's Ice Cube, and I want you to know. My name is no.
It was I want you to know. It wasn't I'm here to say.

My name's Ice Cube.

You did.

I want you to know.

My name is Ice Cube, and I want you to know.

It's a little funky group called NWA.

I'm not Run DMC or Curtis Blow.

That was my first rap line ever wrote in my history of rhyming.

I was 14, and that was my first rhyme.

My name is Ice Cube.

I want you to know i'm not running

dmc or curtis blow did it hit hell no it was nobody liked my rap i was trying to rap it to everybody everybody's like man you right now what's doing get a job have you ever written something and you thought like instantly when it came out you're like this is going to be awesome this is a great verse that I just wrote and then nobody likes it?

Um, I don't know if like nobody likes it because they wouldn't tell me if they didn't like it but it didn't sell so yeah like damn thought that was the one and what about the reverse one that you're like that's okay and then became the biggest hit. Yeah.
A song I did called Check Yourself. It's like I did a remix to it that I was like, oh, this is cool.
We throw on the beat from Grandmaster Flash, The Message, and it just kind of kept growing. Yeah.
Kept growing. That's got to feel pretty damn good.
It is. It's like that wasn't even my best shit, and you guys loved it.
Yeah. Stumble on a hit.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
We do that sometimes with episodes. I need to stumble on a hit.
Yeah. I'm overdue for one of those.
I just want one hit once. What kind of hit you talking about? Some dudes downstairs that'll give you what you need.
Oh, okay. That's true.
Well, we could do that. Maybe we could do an Old Town Road remix.
Yeah. Would you do one of those? Everyone's going to do that.
A what? Old Town Road remix?

It matters how much it's banging.

Okay.

Well, maybe we'll just start.

Maybe that will be our thing.

We'll remix the remixes.

Of Old Town Road?

Of Old Town Road.

Remix version 2.0?

Of the remix.

Okay, I like that.

This is the remix to the remix.

Can we put your name on it?

Can we say that you're loosely attached?

No.

Okay.

No.

That loosely attached. I heard that too many times.
We get a lot of people loosely attached could we have loosely attached to something uh we had jimmy tatro oh yeah loosely attached to a couple scripts of some scripts we're producing yeah so you just say that you talk to someone you say hey can you be loosely attached and then boom next thing you know we're going and talking to people trying to throw your name around putting Putting your name there. Yeah, loosely attached means you're not getting paid for it.

Right.

That's what that means.

And just so you know.

Or you're not going to be a part of the project when we really get the money.

Right.

And just so you know, just because you declined the loosely attached there,

you're still loosely attached.

I mean, you know, everybody name dropped.

Everybody name dropped to get something done.

Yeah.

Can you just say, I'm going to ride until I can't no more?

Just say that.

And then we'll just isolate that and we'll put it in our own remix. Just say, I'm going to ride until I can't no more? Just say that.
And then we'll just isolate that and we'll put it in our own remix. Just say, I'm going to ride until I can't no more.
I'm good. All right, big three.
Where can everyone watch? I mean, it's going to be awesome. It's already started.
It has been awesome. You can check us out Saturday, this Saturday, this Sunday, CBS at noon Eastern.
Get busy. Check us out.
Great basketball. Or come to the damn game We at Providence Rhode Island Okay And we in Brooklyn, New York Hell yeah You gotta see it live, man Seeing seven footers Play three on three Is crazy Can we bet on it? Yeah I feel like my bookie Doesn't have lines for it yet I need to get that He should Or he ain't on top of it That's the big key Tell him stop.
He wants your money. So what should I bet? Do you have any inside tips? Bet it all, man.
Bet your house. Okay.
All right. I don't have one, so perfect.
All right. Done.
Done. It's bet.
Ice Cube, thanks again, man. Appreciate it.
Great to have you on. Thanks, man.
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, yeah.
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All right. Let's do our Mount Rushmore and finish up with a couple segments.
We have the Mount Rushmore of animal traits you would like to have. And should we...
Well, first of all, we need to figure out the order. Wait, wait.
It's animal traits that you wish that you had. Animal qualities that you wish you had.
I prepared for the wrong Mount Rushmore. What did you do? So let's go.
What did you do? I just thought it was traits that you wish that you animal qualities that you wish you had i prepared for the wrong mount rush what did you let's go what i just thought it was traits that you wish i had so i just said a little bit taller a baller a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala that's like a i'm gonna give it a 1.8 no i really i really did prepare for the wrong okay mount rushmore all right animal traits you wish you had who is starting it's gotta be me is be me. Is it? Okay.
Jake PMT sports biz. Jake Marsh says that it is you.
So then I would be second. Let's also just clear this up that if you, you can pick the same animal with different trait.
Correct. Yeah.
I think that's fair. I think that's fair.
I think based off that, I, we might not even have the same Like my first one is the ability to fly

Okay

So what animal?

Bald eagle

Okay you just picked a bald eagle

Randomly

Animal qualities that you wish you had

Yeah you don't want the fastest

You want the Pellegrino falcon bro

The bald eagle is the boss of the air

It's not bottled water because it's Peregrine falcon

Peregrine

Pellegrino falcon

I will take the La Croix eagle

Alright wait but Hank Thank you. The bald eagle is the boss of the air.
It's not bottled water because it's peregrine falcon. Peregrine.
Pellegrino falcon. I will take the La Croix eagle.
All right, wait. But, Hank, that's okay.
So you want that. But someone can pick a faster bird.
I guess. Okay.
I thought it was just animal quality. So, like, an animal, a bird has the ability to fly.
I didn't know it was like we're going specific animal, specific quality. I don't know.
I guess we'll just go with it. All right.
Well, i'm happy you didn't pick my first one because i have a bunch of good ones but i had to do this one a dog's loyalty that's number one for me that's pretty good yes a dog's loyalty uh mine i'm just i'm gonna go with tiger stripes what i just tigers have badass stripes if you're telling me that you don't think tigers look awesome okay then you're a moron. You're fucked.
You already have two. Okay.
My next one is a rabbit's horniness. Okay.
All right. There you go.
Fucking like rabbits. Okay.
I'll go with... You don't know about rabbits fucking hell? No, I do.
I'll go with a cheetah's speed. You just wish you were fast? Yeah, I wish I was a cheetah.
A cheetah's speed. Okay.
No, the speed of a cheetah. Like the mess of a cheetah.
This is the worst Mount Rushmore we've ever done. You're the one that wanted to do it.
No, you're the one who said it. I was like, oh, that's good.
And then PFT wasn't listening. I was just rattling off a lot of general lists.
I do think this is a good Mount Rushmore. It's just gone sideways, but I do think it is.
Honestly, a cheetahetah speed isn't bad. Yeah.
It'd be cool to be fast. I agree.
I'd much rather have the Tigers stripes. You'd be really fucking fast.
But that's a good consolation prize. I will go with a dog's desire and passion to ball 24-7.
Oh. If I had that dog's...
So you want to be Gronk? Yeah. If I had a dog's desire and passion to just play ball every second of every day, I'd be in a pro.
You wouldn't have a job.

No, I would.

I'd be a professional something.

You'd want to chase balls all day long.

Is that what you're saying?

Most dogs, their day is like, when do I get to play ball next? When do I get to see the ball?

If I had that, if that was my mindset, I had that quality, I'd be a pro.

Because that's all you do.

Okay.

Hank.

Pretty close.

Yes, pretty close.

Hank was staring looking for the ball. And then I'll go with chameleon, like the ability to be a chameleon.
Change colors. That's really good.
That's good, Hank. That's good.
Okay. I'll go with my third pick.
I'll go with an ant strength. 10 to 50 times body weight.
Okay. Yeah, but if you had an ant strength, you'd be weak as fuck.
I'd have a 10 to 50 times body weight. He's talking about proportion.
How much can an ant lift? Like one rubber tree plant. I have 10 to 50 times the body weight.
I can lift 10 to 50 times my body weight, which is like, I don't know. So that means that 2,000 pounds.

That also means the fatter you get, the stronger I am.

Exponentially stronger you can get.

How would you not want that?

I didn't know where you were going proportional.

I thought it was like if you get an ant strength, then you can lift like one ounce.

No, I want 10 to 50 times.

I'm going to go with, same with proportionality here.

I'm going with a flea's jumping ability.

Ooh, good one.

I'd be able to jump to the moon. Yes.
If a flea were the size of me. You'd be able to dunk finally.
No, I could dunk on any hoop. I could dunk on Saturn's rings.
That's how I could jump. Okay.
And then my last one is going to be the sting of a hornet. Ooh, good.
If I had a little stinger. Hornets die after they sting.
No, Hank, common misconception. You're thinking of a honeybee.
A hornet stinger is smooth. It glides in, glides out.
So a hornet can sting multiple. I actually want to give a real quick Monday reading.
We don't have a Monday reading coming today, but this is from my mom. For all you people that don't believe in how deadly a single hornet can be.
Okay. She said, I got this last night, I just got stung in the butt by one of those huge hornets like the one that stung you it's been an hour and my butt still hurts badly ouch i'm okay dad got it it flew up to the ceiling and he killed it when it came down damn so that's a quick shout out to my dad and my mom hero that's hero ball that's that's that's a dad strength that's a dad, too.
Just killing the smallest animal in the world that threatens the family.

You hurt my wife, you son of a bitch. This mouse that scared everyone, I got this.

I bet my dad just stayed in the living room staring at the ceiling for like 20 minutes.

Probably did a newspaper.

Count them on in Crisco.

Yeah.

Actually, he's a big tennis racket guy.

That doesn't seem like it would work for a woman. No, it was Wimbledon Sunday.
I'm right through. All right.
My last one, I'll go with a bear's fishing ability. That would be sick.
If I could just fucking grab fish out of the water, that would be pretty fun. Anything? No? Okay.
Rocky did that. You guys are doing nothing here.
I'm just thinking about you doing that. It would be sick.
You would never do it, though. Yes, I would.
I would be like, hey, guys, watch me grab this fish out of the fucking river. You know what would be crazy? I think you could do that, though.
No way. What? You think I could just grab salmon by the fucking thousand? Yes.
No chance. Dude, I've been watching a lot of Planet Earth.
Their method is not that crazy. It would be awesome to be able to grab it.
Their method is they go out in freezing water and they stand there for hours and they catch it with their mouths. Right.
And they just scoop them up. You should catch it with your mouth.
But you could do that in theory. Not with your mouth.
He can't catch it with his mouth. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. You could.
You cannot catch a fish with your hand in a river, Hank. There is no chance.
Yes, I could. Okay, well, we'll have to find a way to prove that there's no chance you could do it.
Give me enough time in Alaska. Enough time? Dude, in Alaska, when the fish are coming downstream, there's a million of them.
They go upstream. They go upstream.
Upstream the salmon. Second of all, you can't even get Larry in a net.
In a tank. A goldfish.
Facts. Facts.
If I had a day on a river in Alaska,

I could catch a fish with my hand.

Okay, what's your last one?

I had, I'll go with, I guess,

bear's ability to hibernate.

Would you really want to do that, though?

All football season.

The other one.

Well, it doesn't matter what,

you can specify the season,

you could just hibernate

throughout the spring, right?

The other one I was thinking is.

March Madness?

I'll go with that.

I'll go with that.

Okay.

My honorable mention was to cocoon up and then become a butterfly. I don't know if that would be cool.
So Hank, you want the ability to start out as a shitty gross thing and then become marginally more attractive. Yeah.
I mean, it's better than my current situation, which is just like a shitty gross thing. Not for a wife.
This is kind of like you growing a beard. Yeah, I was going to say, you grow the beard.
That's your cocoon. Yeah, that's true.
You already have that billet. You look gorgeous.
All right. Any honorable mentions? I wrote down a few.
How about an owl's night vision or an eagle's vision, too? Eagles can look. I think they can see up to 10 times farther than human beings, which is pretty sick.
Hawkeye. You can squint and spot balls.
I was, I, you guys know about the scarlet jellyfish? It can like regrow its life. It goes down to the bottom and it becomes like a little baby jellyfish again.
It rebirths itself. It rebirths itself.
So it's basically, they can just live forever. I wouldn't want that.
I don't think I'd want that either, especially because if you did that, you'd have to become a baby again. Yeah.
That would suck. No thanks.
But it's a cool idea to throw out there. PFT meerkats have built-in sunglasses.
That's pretty awesome. Yeah.
That would solve a lot of problems. That would solve a lot of problems.
What about the fish from Finding Nemo that has, like, light at the end of it? So you could walk around always with a light in front of yourself. That would be pretty cool.
Like a miner's light? Yeah. Yeah.
How about a... Oh, for you, lion facial hair? Yeah, that'd be nice.
For me... Wait, wait.
Lions don't really have facial hair. They've got mains.
Yeah, that's pretty good. It's not facial hair, though.
Yeah, I mean, they have it around their face. I embrace the bait.
Is a lion's main facial hair? I'm pretty sure he is. I don't think that it is.
I think it's just a wreath of hair. For my son, opossums have self-immunization, so I wouldn't have to get him all those shots and stuff.
I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Right. Exactly.
But that'd be pretty sick to be able to just kill. Opossums are crazy.
Is every opossum autistic because they're immunized? I mean, I don't know. I'm not going to answer that.
And the only other one I wrote down was the rat's love for subways. Because I hate going on the subway.
The rat's love. It'd be nice to enjoy a subway.
Enjoy it. Right.
You enjoy being in the subway station. And a rat's love for pizza.
That's true. That's true.
That would be nice, too. Anything else, Hank? Any other ones?

Penguins.

Like, penguins can swim.

Penguins can swim.

You could have just picked a fish.

Yeah.

You could have picked a shark.

I like animals that can be above water and then do...

I like the multi...

Oh, okay.

Multi-purpose.

Yeah.

The Swiss Army.

The Humvees.

Yeah.

Of the animal world.

Like, seals would be fun, but then you've got to worry about sharks all the time.

Yeah, the match-up nightmares.

You just chill and tan all day.

But you don't

because you're a human.

Yeah.

I guess that's...

I haven't thought about that one.

A shark would have been

a good answer.

Just swim forever.

If I was...

If I had the ability

to stay underwater

like a shark,

I would just become

a Navy SEAL

and just fuck everyone's mind

in BUDS training.

You would be a...

When they try to, like, keep training you would be when they try to

like you'd be a super soldier yeah they try to keep me underwater to like and i'd just be like yeah i'm cool guys i'm here forever you would be america's secret weapon it'd be awesome uh any others okay that was either our worst or best electric eel would be pretty cool that would just shock every like reach out your hand to shake somebody's hand as a gag you don't need the buzz buzzer. You just, like, zap them.
That would be cool. Gotcha.
Yeah, I guess I wrote down dolphins, but I couldn't figure out what. Maybe, like, having people fall in love with you and fuck you.
Yeah, that's pretty. Or a whale.
A whale, too. You get to fuck John McAfee, right? Yeah, that's true.
That is true. The antivirus guy.
Hey, you get half his money. It's like 12 gallons.
A whale's jizz. I wish that when I jizz, it just makes such a big mess.
Nothing can clean it up. I wish my ropes were just like spider silk.
I saw a whale shit in Hawaii. It was sick.
He just came right up by the boat and there was so much shit. It was awesome to watch.
I saw a horse jerk off one time. That's pretty cool too.
Oh yeah yeah you told us that story yeah uh okay that was whale jerk off talk yeah the worst or the best mount rush we've ever done tell us what we got wrong being a spider and and having the ability to just shoot out like building material that's super strong that'd be pretty cool too they should do a movie about that yeah they should yeah um all right we have uh two segments to wrap up or a couple segments uh bad Bad visual, PFT, you had the bad visual?

The bad visual, there's a big cheating and chess scandal.

So this guy, this Grandmaster, got caught.

By the way, that's a badass name.

That's a super cool title for being really good at a game,

because at some point you were in the title Grandmaster.

He got caught cheating in a tournament because they took a picture of him

in the bathroom looking at a phone.

And so he admitted that he went to the bathroom and he was checking his phone here was his quote should just pull up you porn yeah this guy like that would be a great explanation just like i wanted to crank one out yeah clears my mind um so this guy let's see what his name is rouses he says i simply lost my mind yesterday i confirmed the fact of using my phone during the game. Excuse me.
By written statement, what could I say more? Yes, I was tired after the morning game, and all the Facebook activity of accusers also have a known impact. At least what I committed yesterday is a good lesson.
Not for me. I played my last game of chess already.
Whoa. So he's making himself a martyr.
So he retired. I think this is his way of walking out.
He let facebook community get to him uh-huh that's pretty that's pretty badass if you get caught cheating by looking at your phone during a game of chess on a toilet the last thing i would do is like check the facebook comments about my article how do you cheat on chess uh so you can i guess program it into a computer yeah but isn't didn't we have those chess people that beat the computer? Maybe he was just on Tinder and his bio just said, if you're really good at chess, hit me up for a discussion. Tell me what this rook should do in this position.
Yeah, he was just asking the community of hot chicks what he should do in the game. But it's funny because his rating has gone.
There were a bunch of red flags about this guy to begin with that they should have caught. His rating was going up as he was getting older.
And I think PEDS typically it's just like, you know, James Roger Clemens. Yeah.
Well, allegedly he was never convicted LeBron. Both.
Oh, okay. Both.
Your brain starts to deteriorate before you get to the age of like 50 and chest. So you never see somebody continue to improve at that age.
Interesting. Except for this guy.
And they caught him using a phone in the toilet. I love – we should get – we should get – actually, you know what? Let's do that for Barstool Gold.
We've got to get a chess master on. You want to have a chess master on? That would be sick.
Okay. Just talk about, like, what's the groupie scene for chess masters? Oh, I'm sure it's awesome.
You slay, dude, when you go to, like – In Russia? Yeah. I'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure like chess dads are like pageant moms to the point where like they will keep their son tied up to a chair for 14 hours a day and just like reward him with a taste of water if he gets out of like a gambit all right so we'll find that out we'll find that out for you guys uh later all right our last segment uh of the day we have a sabermetrics one is actually for an awesome, well, bad story, but an awesome event on Friday night.
The Angels for Tyler Skaggs, they wore his number 45. He passed away tragically a couple weeks ago.
Pitcher for the Angels, they all wore number 45. And they won, but they won with a combined no-hitter.
And then the numbers after, like this is one of those situations where if you don't believe something else is going on, I don't, but these things happen, and you're like, what the fuck? Like Dee Gordon hitting that home run for Jose Fernandez. So they pitched a combined no-hitter, and the last time there was a combined no-hitter in the state of California was July 13, 1991, which was the day that Tyler Skaggs was born.

So his birthday, the no-hitter happened like hours before his birthday.

Mike Trout, wearing number 45-4, Tyler Skaggs,

hit a home run in his first at bat, 454 feet, which is weird.

They scored seven runs in the first inning and ended up with 13 runs.

His birthday, 7-13. His mom threw out the first pitch through a strike.
And there was one more. Oh, there was one that was Mike.
This is the Tim Kirchhen one where it's, like, getting a little too far down there. But I'll still throw it out there.
Trout, in his last 45 games, he has reached base 45% of the time. That's pretty cool.
That is pretty cool, yeah. So it was one of those was one of those like bigger than you know some things are bigger than sports moments shout out rico bosco where everything kind of came together it was a very cool moment it's like one of those kennedy lincoln things that all all adds up right kennedy's secretary was named lincoln yeah right name kennedy right and you're just like whoa what's going on here are the angels should we should we start putting just like a little tickler on them? Maybe Team of Destiny? Angels in the outfield.
Yeah. That would be pretty cool.
Good point. Yeah.
Good point. The rally monkey.
Bring back the rally monkey. I mean, that was a big mistake when they got rid of the rally monkey.
Huge mistake. Where'd the rally monkey? Why'd the rally monkey even start? It got sick of Mike Sosa's shit.
Did a monkey run onto the field? No, I think they just. Like a squirrel? I think it was like an extra in a Disney movie.
It was just a little kid. Somebody said, hey, we got this free monkey if anybody wants it.

The Angels as a franchise are very interesting.

I want to amend one of my Mount Rushmores.

I want the luck of a rally monkey.

Okay, there you go.

You can't, but it was a valiant effort.

If you know and retroactively.

Yeah.

That is illegal.

As we know, once you take your hand off the piece, it's over.

Or you can go into the bathroom.

Yeah, exactly.

All right.

We got a couple of really good guests coming up for you this week.

We have Dr. Phil on Wednesday.

We have possibly Chris Broussard on Friday.

So big week.

We're going to get through this.

We'll have a couple more weeks till the Hall of Fame game.

So you got this, guys.

We'll see you Wednesday.

Love you guys.

Especially you, Matt Schaub.

I'm really looking forward to it. Oh, your clit and switching back and forth.

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