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Chris Jericho is on the show.

He handed it to us. He was a great interview and also gave us some tips on how to be better at our job.
Very nice guy, but also very, very intimidating. We also have, speaking of the Intimidator, his son Dale Earnhardt Jr.
on the show. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
has an entire old western town that's abandoned on his property. It's pretty crazy.
He tells the whole story about it and much, much more. Mount Rushmore of movies that you have to finish if you see them on TV, Firefest of the Week, and of course, because it's Friday, our License to Jill with Jilly Football at the end.
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And PFT, I have a question for you. What do you need when you have a team with two ball-dominant players that hate everyone and are bad teammates? You need a third ball-dominant player that's more ball-dominant than the other two and make everybody hate everybody yes that is what the houston rockets are going for jimmy butler to the houston rockets needs to happen i don't even understand why this is a thing but i'm all for it because i want to see if chris paul james harden and jimmy butler can all in one single game dribble out the shot clock in different possessions i think they can i they can absolutely do it.
And Jimmy Butler is the kind of guy that he would really light a spark in that team. So say what you want about Jimmy Butler, but you will never accuse him of being fake nice to teammates and building up all this little under the surface, all the passive-aggressive stuff.
That's never going to happen with J-Butt because old J-Butt is going to come in like a stick of dynamite, not like a needle under your skin. So if you look at what the Houston Rockets, what they've done the last five, six years, they've just had like death by a thousand passive-aggressive note paper cuts that are left behind to each other.
Jimmy Butler gets in and he just blows everything up. I think that's way more entertaining and frankly more healthy.
And on top of all of that, I love that Daryl Morey sees the writing on the wall. They have a new owner who is probably very impatient.
He's a restaurateur who I'm sure has fired many people in his past. Those guys don't seem like the most patient guys in the world.
He also came in after Chris Paul was signed, so he's like, I don't want to pay this guy who's however old he is uh 40 million dollars plus for the next three years so he's looking at Daryl Maury and he says I need some answers and Daryl Maury says I'm probably gonna get fired or quit in the next year or two so I might as well just say fuck it go all in add a piece that doesn't really make sense but might make sense get my big three because it's all all about the big threes and see if it works and what's the worst that can happen for Daryl Morey he quits or he gets fired and he gets another job instantly because he's one of the best GMs in basketball so I like this it's almost like he's playing with house money at this point and Jimmy Butler J-butt is the ultimate money move. I like that.
And I especially like the idea of Derramora getting fired and having no other options except to go to the Wizards. So that's what I'm really going to hope for.
I'm sure that'll happen. But, yeah, you're right.
I think especially if you look at what restaurateurs are like, we know one very well, John Taffer. And John Taffer is not a spreadsheet guy.
I'm going to look you in the eyes kind of guy. The only Excel I need, the only cells I need, are the ones that are in your pupils so that I can stare at them and figure out if you're a man or not.
So I agree that this guy is probably not going to be married with Daryl Morey for very long. And there's really only one solution to the problem, and that's get Chris Paul to the Lakers.
Yeah, he also did the classic move that when an owner holds a press conference after a game, that is just a huge sign that that owner is going to fire everyone soon because Jerry Jones does it. Whenever you see an owner get in front of you, when you get that owner in the tunnel doing an interview, an impromptu interview, that usually means the guy's not super patient.
So I'm excited for that. We also have Anthony Davis saying no thanks to $4 million so that the Lakers can get all the free agents.
They also just made a trade to clear more cap space. So it looks like Rob Palenka's little mistake has been corrected.
I think they have $32 million in cap space now. So, again, Hank, I told you this the minute that Klay Thompson tore his ACL.
You told me to chill. The Lakers are going to win the title.
Chill. Okay.
All right. I'll chill.
I'll keep chilling. I will stay here, keep chilling.
You sound pretty calm. I'm totally calm.
This is the point of the offseason where football, there's no news. We're waiting for MLB All-Star break.
Basically, all we can talk about is the NBA free agency, which is coming up on Sunday, which we will have a big show for. I'm also looking right now.
PMT Sports Biz Jake is showing me a tweet. It says, Yahoo Sources, Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James gifting new teammate Anthony Davis his number 23 jersey for the upcoming season.
Wow. What a beta move.
They're going to sell so many. What a good guy.
He should take Kobe's 8 or Kobe's 24 or both home and away. That would be nice.
Or 248. That works too.
Just put it up to triple digits. I think that means that this is Anthony.
on your shirt it's anthony davis's team though that's true he's the alpha i think it does if we're talking batman and robin uh the the batman definitely wears number 23 this is also i'm pretty sure it's a salary cap violation because you're usually supposed to pay money uh to the veteran player to get his jersey am i right wait he did he paid the most amount of money possible he paid four million dollars he said anthony davis make sure that you don't take this free four million dollars and i will give you number 23 because anthony davis basically did that with his his contract today so it is now when the question comes up who is paid the most it's not you know some random like oh yeah carson palmer once paid uh I don't know Charlie Whitehurst these these are made up names because they were played together you know ten thousand dollars in a Chevy truck no it is LeBron James paid Anthony Davis four million dollars so that Anthony Davis would basically he gets number 23 and he walks away from the four million dollars so they have cap space interesting very very interesting now I've got to be honest with you, Big Cat. Wait, does that work in my head? Am I doing that incorrectly? Anthony Davis walked – oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
$4 million. Yes, yes, yes.
I'm not a numbers guy per se, and I know that you're a little bit worried about this whole Lakers situation, even though, well, you're so not worried that you're worried at this point.

I am really looking forward to the Lakers becoming a championship team next year just to watch Kobe Bryant's reaction to LeBron James winning titles as a Laker.

And then we get the whole conversation.

If the Lakers win two, then it's like, well, who's the greatest Laker of this century?

Yeah.

Is it Kobe Bryant or is it LeBron James?

I'm very much looking forward to Kobe Bryant trying to handle that with dignity and class yeah and then Shaq will chime in and Charles Barkley will make fun of him and then Shaq will get his feelings hurt and it will be great TV there too and then Rick Fox will just say well it's Robert Ory yeah it's Robert Ory the other news we had Hank Kemba Walker to the Celtics looks almost like a foregone conclusion but this is this league we're talking about this is this league Sunday Sunday will be exciting though I'm happy that although I will say that it's like it does sound better that the when it starts on July 1st like it's it just makes more sense like everything happening June 30th just sounds kind of weird but I'm much much happier that it's happening on Sunday than Monday. Sunday will be exciting.
Yes, Sunday will be exciting, and I do love every team gets put in this spot. Every team who actually is trying to get free agents and competing, their fans get put in this spot where they have to do the mental gymnastics on ranking players that they previously ranked differently.
So Kemba Walker is now all of a sudden better than Kyrie Irving. Oh, yeah.
D'Angelo Russell, wow, he's amazing. The Lakers definitely want him back.
All Lakers fans saying, yeah, he's the best. We need him.
He just needed a change of scenery. So those mental gymnastics, I always love watching.
And I do it myself all the time. You have to do it as a fan to try to talk yourself into a new signing.
Oh, definitely. And it's real big when you start to talk about, well, when that guy came out in the draft, I actually had him higher.
Right. As a senior coming out of college.
So like when Kimbo was just getting drafted by the Hornets, I actually thought that he should have gone higher than he did. I was higher on him than everybody else that I knew.
So you can talk yourself into anybody. I've heard through sources related to my dog two things.
I had two scoops about Kemba that haven't been previously reported, but Leroy gave me the go-ahead. I heard that Charlotte is not offering him a max.
I think that's been reported. He feels disrespected.
He feels disrespected by that. I got this DM last night, so I don't know if it's been reported.
That's the basis of it. That's the entire reason why Kemba Walker is going to go to the Celtics.
You're reporting the news. Wait.
Wait. No.
Okay. So I'm setting that up because I got a plot twist.
Okay. New scoop that came in.
He's using this as a bargaining chip for Charlotte. He wants to stay in Charlotte.
He just wants to get a little bit more money, so he's letting all this leak out there. Okay, so that's just common sense.
I'm hearing that Kimba Walker is both considering... Trying to leverage for more money.
Going to the Celtics. I'm hearing officially, per sources, that he is considering the Celtics as well as the Hornets for his two next destinations, and a lot of his decision has to do with who's going to pay him more money.

Okay.

So that's breaking news right there.

Anything else with the NBA?

I mean, Sunday's going to be awesome.

By the way.

What number do you think LeBron will wear?

I don't know.

I have no idea.

I mean, it would be funny if he tried to go 8 or 24.

LeBron would probably do like a 99 or something.

Ew. Yeah, something weird like that.
Oh, yeah, 6. He wore 6 with Team USA, so that would make sense.
And the Heat. Yeah, and the Heat.
6 isn't retired. He'll probably do 6.
He'll do 6. So that's not even a big change for him because he was 6 with the Heat.
You're right, Hank. So this was Anthony Davis paying $4 million for the number 23.
Dude, you didn't have to pay that money. LeBron probably would have done it anyway.
You got that Space Jam money too, though. Yeah, he's got the $10 million from Space Jam reportedly that I just made up right now.
I could also see him rocking number three, just like father of three, just making sure that everybody knew that he's doing this year for the kids. World of Wade, He steals his number? Yeah.
Interesting. But then he makes it, but then he spin zones it into like a tribute to his favorite teammate of all time.
Right. But just really making it about himself, taking over the number three.
That would be great because then Dwayne Wade's retirement tour would actually go another year. So we need that as well.
Yeah. And then you need to pass it along every year, somebody wears the three jersey that's taking an extended trip around the country getting weird gifts.
Okay. So Sunday night, we have the NBA free agency Bonanza.
We also have a future Hall of Famer on the show. This guest will surprise you.
Hall of Fame interview. Hall of Fame interview, future Hall of Famer.

Debatable.

People like to debate whether he's going to be a Hall of Famer, but he definitely will be a Hall of Famer.

So think about that for a second.

He was a subject in years past of free agency.

He was a big, big subject.

Big time subject.

Maybe subject with the Lakers.

Who knows?

You can watch that interview on Barstoolgold.com slash PMT.

Barstoolgold.com slash PMT. You can watch all of our shows, all of our interviews if you sign up today let's do our Mount Rushmore and then we'll get to Fyre Fest PFT, you had a question I do have a question is this guest that is going to be joining us for the NBA show is he the richest guest in the history of Part of My Take? no, michael rubin on and scott boris and scott boris you think scott boris has more money than him maybe not but michael rubin's probably worth more yeah michael rubin definitely does yeah okay second second richest guest in the history part of my take i think okay maybe blake griffin it's up there blake i did the math oh you Oh, you did.
Okay. Blake Griffin also has to spend to maintain that lavish lifestyle.
We had A-Rod on too. Dating Kardashians.
Oh, yeah, we had A-Rod on, so A-Rod definitely has more money. What did you say about Blake Griffin? Okay, my point was proven completely irrelevant.
He's up there, though. Yeah, he's up there.
He's up there. He's got, listen, he's made a lot of money.
Let's just leave it at that. Fire Fest of the week.
No, let's do Mount Rushmore first, and then we'll do Fire Fest. So the Mount Rushmore of movies that when you see them on TV, you have to finish them.
Who's up first? I think it's Hank. Yeah, Hank.
No, I think it's me. No, it's me.
No, it's Hank. And then me second, and then Big Cat.
Yeah. Really? But I went first.
Are you sure? I went first last time. Right, which means you went third now.
Was it time before I went third? You know what we've done? We've fucked us up. Somehow we've created a new snake draft out of a snake draft.
That's the order right there, Jake? Last week. So Hank, Big Cat, PFT? No, so I shouldn't be third.
You should be first. I should be first.
I thought that. I should be first.
No, it goes the other way. It goes Hank, then Big Cat second, then PFT third.
So I'm second? Yeah. That might make sense.
I feel like I'm drunk trying to find a bathroom. This is, yeah, this is terrible.
I don't, fuck. I'm 95% sure I'm first.
What was the order we did in when Hank went first did PFT go second clockwise I think I went first last time we're sitting in opposite seats you know what we should do I should get to go first twice in a row because I was the last person to go first just like a snake draft so you went first last time on last last show or no yeah i'm pretty sure i did yeah all right so then it should yeah then it's then it makes sense hank me pft yep that's what it should go that's how it goes because we're moving clockwise around the room yep yes that makes sense all right my number one obviously the biggest criteria uh i'm not even gonna get into it no do it get into it well no i mean you kind of said it it's like you got it there a lot. Like a lot of movies are hard when it goes to commercial to stay on.
Correct. It has to really catch you in.
And the good ones, even though you've seen a million times, you have to be committed to just watching commercials. My number one pick Hank.
I don't know. Catch me if you can.
Whoa. Leo and Tom Hanks.
That's good. Great movie.
Always, always catches me. Like it's just it's just a great movie.
Okay. That's a good pick.
I am happy because you didn't take my number one overall that I had written ahead of everything and that is Goodfellas. If Goodfellas is on, I watch it all the way through no matter what.
I've never not sat there and watched every scene from Goodfellas. You know what's weird about that though is I've seen it so many many times on tv i always tune in when he's looking up at the helicopter like following him around i always just start there yep and you always finish it you always finish where he's just coming out of his house in uh you know as a regular schnuck eating ketchup egg noodles and ketchup in the middle of nebraska goodfellas all right p arizona yeah you have two okay uh for my first two i'm going to go with Con fellas.
Arizona. You have two.

Okay. For my first two, I'm going to

go with Con Air.

Number one. Just action

packed from end to end. Star studded

too. Love the cages.
Alabama

accent. I'm Cameron Poe and I'm

here to land this plane because my wife

she had babies.

That is just a wonderful movie.

John Malkovich, Performance of a Lifetime. The guy from Forrest Gump, Bubba from Forrest Gump, is in another movie.
So it's always fun to see him doing something else. Love Con Air.
My second pick is going to be Training Day. Ooh.
Okay. Come on, Jake.
Okay.

Jake, you like to get wet.

I'm happy because that means my number two overall pick is still there.

I think you would have taken this, Hank, in your next round.

Step Brothers.

Step Brothers is so rewatchable.

You know what's crazy?

When I first saw Step Brothers, I didn't think it was that good.

But now, if you see it on TV, every scene, every in-between commercial breaks

holds up on its own, and you have to watch the whole thing.

So Step Brothers is my number two.

Yep.

That's a good one.

I actually didn't have that one down.

I had a different comedy.

But my number two pick, Happy Gilmore.

Oh, OK.

Even though that's like I probably know that that movie the most like the whole the entire movie by heart.

You can repeat the lines, but they still they're still funny uh and then my number three i will go with national treasure nick cage okay good so nick cage is getting a documentary yeah all that shit's real nick cage is getting a lot of rewatchables and the the movies that you have to watch all the way through and i'll go with nick cage as well for number three the rock yep i mean come on you have to on. You have to watch the whole thing when The Rock is on.
And that's an old classic. PFT, you have two more to finish out your Mount Rushmore.
I want to mix this one up a little bit, kind of a comedy situation. I know you guys picked Stepbrother.
That was a very Trey Wingo decision on your part, Big Cat. I like that.
Trey's not a Stepbrothers guy. He's more anchorman, wedding crashers.
Yeah, it's too rated on for him. Yeah, stepbrothers is too edgy for him.
He's not a stepbrothers guy per se, but he's a big, do you want to do karate in the garage guy? Okay, yeah. He'll say that one over and over again.
Okay. So for my third one, I'm going to go Pitch Perfect.
Okay. Real in some music, some songs Not that Pitch Perfect 2 bullshit Just the number one, the uno And then my last movie that I will always watch at the end When I see it come on Is Heather Brook, Swimsuit and Husband's Study What? Circa 2002 What? Is that a porn? Heather Brook, Swimsuit Top Oh, got it You did a point you did your husband study fourth pick the the pfc 2002 yeah i got it okay the wild card i call it you're throwing it because you don't want to ever give 100 effort and lose it's what no it's a wild card okay all right my i mean am i wrong yeah it's not on tv but okay it's never on tv somebody doesn't have Chromecast it's not on TV but okay alright my fourth pick here this is going to be tough I got a few alright I'm going to go there's a lot that got left off the list but I'm going to go with a classic point break anytime point break's on I got to watch it all the way through And it also feels like Keanu's got to be on here somewhere.
Utah. Yeah.
Utah, get me too. Gary Busey.
All right. Anthony Kiedis, surprisingly good actor.
Yes. Yes.
Hank, your last pick, and then we'll do some honorable mentions. My last pick, there are a lot we left off the list, but I will go with the hometown classic, The Departed.
Okay. That's a good one.
Any mugs got a light? That one's a good one. Okay, not to give away the ending, but the zoom in on the rat at the end, the rat symbolizes a rat.
Nice. That's true.
Pizza rat. A lot of people don't pick up on that nuance.
It's the first viral rat. Okay, ones we missed.
There's a lot that we missed. Princess Bride I threw out there.
I think that one would date me, but if I watch that, it's on all the time, and I'll watch it all the way through. Here's one I saw the other day that I found myself watching all the way through that I think holds up because it's just interesting and it's always kind of appropriate to our time.
Social Network. I watched the Social Network all the way through the other day, and I was, like, enthralled the whole time.
What else do you guys have? I have a few more, but go ahead. I'll throw it around.
The Social Network is going to be one that's going to age even better, I think. Right.
The more that we learn about Mark Zuckerberg, we're going to be like, I want to see how this weirdo got started. I had John Wick on there.
Okay. I had Forrest Gump, another Tom Hanks movie.
Yep. The only problem with Forrest Gump is you know that you're going to cry at the end.
That is the one movie that I will always cry in. And so if you sit down even at the start of it, you're basically making a plan to cry in three hours.
So that's kind of tough, but it's still a great movie. And then I had Shawshank.
Yeah, that's like the classic one. But it's also really long.
Yeah, so is Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump, though, the reason why Forrest Gump works on TV is that they can always pick the right spot to like transition into a new chapter of his life to keep you in like involved in it you know what I mean they always find that perfect commercial break unusual suspects speed roadhouse thrown out a few more wait do you Unusual Suspects is a different one.
That's the porno that you watch. Speed, Roadhouse, Big Lebowski.
Any of these? Any of these hitting? I had Bubba Gaming, Tommy Boy, and Superbad are good ones. Tommy Boy.
Armageddon. Oh, Armageddon's a great one.
My number one, probably number five, that didn't make the list would be Remember the Titans. That's a good one, too.
One of my oddball ones that I threw on there, Legally Blonde. You don't like Legally Blonde? Nah.
I think that's a good movie. It's not bad.
And it's rewatchable as fuck. It's not bad, yeah.
It's a very, very good movie, and it's appropriate to anyone who's doubted in life and wants to make it, and everyone says, oh, you like they always say oh big cat you're all you do all you are just a piece of meat you're just a bunch of looks like no i can make something out of myself so yeah that's why i like it there you go yeah and stifler's mom is in it it's american pie oh american pie yeah shit american pie hangover too hangover one hangover one's big time rewatchable die a Vengeance. You want to talk about movies that have these little perfect times that you can cut to break and come back and something new's happening? Yep.
It's like you go to commercial and you come back and he's got a different bomb he's trying to figure out how to defuse. This isn't really a movie, but this is one that I always will just go through the commercials is like the National Geographic, like the National Parks shows.
Yes. Where they always go to break with like, this baby lamb is going to the creek, but little does he know there's trouble on the way.
Like they have great cliffhangers. You're like, all right, I got to see what happens.
In springtime, these animals come out of hibernation and then they show the bear slowly coming out to just wreck shit on everyone. All those salmons.
Fuck you, salmon. You're about to get eaten.
Actually, I love it when the bears, right before they hibernate,

when they're at their fattest and they can barely even walk for a while.

The unit bears, those are great.

We should do at some point in Mount Rushmore of TV shows

that we like to watch when we're high with nothing else to do.

That's also good.

Because the planet Earth has got to be right up there.

Planet Earth is definitely up there.

All right, so we probably left a bunch off.

If you have ones, throw them out there. T tweet us your most rewatchable movies on tv that you have to watch all the way through really good because i feel like at some point in the next 20 years we're gonna lose this right like cable will be gone and everyone will just have everything on demand you won't have this oh i always turn on tv and yeah like i always hit uh amc and see godfather 2 on and i watched the whole way through i was gonna put godfathers on there but they are very long so it is always that's like a three and with the commercial break it's like three and a half hour investment yeah cord cutters are actually ruining this entire segment that we're doing yeah okay let's do our fire fest of Week, then we'll get to our interviews with Chris Jericho and Dale Earnhardt Jr.
PFT, why don't you go first? My Fyre Fest of the Week was not being invited to Blake Griffin's booty party. So I don't know if you saw this headline.
Oh, yeah. This is actually for all of us.
It's a headline for all of us. So this is going to double as a let's read a headline it is blake griffin and chandler parsons booty boat twerk party on a beza yacht so it the the article came chock full of pictures basically it was seven women on a yacht with blake and chandler parsons just shaking their butts yes we were nowhere to be found so i i saw the pictures obviously it looked like a great time i just thought the whole time man i'd look really awkward up there with the t-shirt on because there's no way i'd take my t-shirt off around blake griff also did not see a phone in his hand yeah true i don't know if this is the time to really be uh ripping it up blake blake the year is coming up and he's got no phone oh sorry, sorry.
I was on. It's one thing.
If your excuse is you're playing for team USA and defending our country's honor, it's another, if you're twerking with Chandler Parsons in the South of France or wherever it is. Yeah.
I actually, I think that that's probably more patriotic than, than playing for your country in the Olympics is just having a girl with a big butt, just shake just shake it nearby. That's as USA as it gets.
Yeah, but you got to do it. We really made big butts.
It's us in Brazil that made big butts cool. Yeah, but you got to do it in Lake Tahoe or something, or Miami, somewhere in America.
South Padre Island. You can't give Ibiza all these big butts.
They got more than enough to – they don't need a surplus of big butts. Yeah.
No, that's a good point. Blake, just how about you keep it in America? Go to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Yeah. That's basically the Ibiza of the Midwest.
Yes. Okay.
So, Hank, you got a Fyre Fest? Yeah. My Fyre Fest in general is this segment.
Like, it's kind of hard. You know, I consider myself very lucky.
I enjoy my job a lot so it's it's kind of hard it's hard coming up with like you know fire fest was a very traumatic event for a lot of people and that just doesn't happen with me a lot but since i had to find one i will go with the fact that we have interviewed julian edelman one of my like people i like the most in this world and twice now and i forgot to take a picture with him two times oh that's tough that is a really tough although do you really want to take a picture with Julian Edelman and put yourself up against him yeah because we the picture he took where he thirst trapped PFT and I have never looked worse it's true and we actually didn't find we looked fine but we've never looked worse I looked at myself and I was like you kind of look like a uh a troll with lupus there pft right like one of those little troll troll dolls but it was once i covered up julian edelman's face i was like that's that's an average picture for me nothing to write home about but nothing bad and then i looked at you and i was like oh god big cat wow yeah maybe uh you know hit the keto a little bit but then i covered up julian's face and i was like this is a great picture of dan yeah it was a decent picture of me and then i looked at it with julian there and i had this stupid smile on my face like hey hey bro act like you've been around a hot dude before chill out like basically coming in my pants while i'm standing next to julian edelman it was embarrassing for all of us so yeah hank you avoided that oh bigger fire fest uh all right i have two fire fests first is uh you darvish signed a six-year 126 million dollar contract he's been on the cubs for a year and a half and he has zero wins at wrigley i know he was injured all last year but zero and i'm supposed to be nice to him he's got he's sensitive be nice to you be nice to you it's it's getting very hard let me just say it's getting very hard to be nice to you my My other fire fest, we lost a legend, Beth Chapman. She passed yesterday.
It was, we talk about celebrity deaths all the time. This one really took the wind out of me.
I feel like just yesterday I was watching Beth scream at someone that was zip tie, handcuffed in the back of a minivan, telling them to get their life together. Go with Christh beth is now with christ and i'm sure christ is taking care of her but either way we lost the legend i loved beth she was uh the one who always just kind of she was basically dog's dog she would run behind dog and scream at people and she had her own leather gloves and she would uh you know she had Lisa who she, she helped bring along and made her a bounty hunter.
So my thoughts and prayers go out to the whole dog family. We lost a good one with Beth Chapman.
Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, Jesus is a bounty hunter for souls, right? True.
He sees some things going down on earth. He's got to come down and collect payments past due.
So she's in a better place. Uh, kind of had the wind taking me out out of me too when i was reading that news because um i didn't realize that dog was five foot seven really i kind of actually yeah he's a little buddy yeah maybe i did know that um i think so when i grow my when my hair gets very long i look shorter when dog grows his hair i think you have to reach a point where it's like past your waist almost down to your knees i guess it makes you look a little bit taller at some point yeah the um i don't know how long the appropriate i don't know what the appropriate amount of time is that uh dog will be grieving but let's just say whenever that lapses talk about an eligible bachelor come on it's on it's on it is on dog dog dick pics getting leaked within probably six weeks yeah all you ladies out there your pussy hasn't been paying bail bonds so he's coming for you that sounds really aggressive but dog's pretty hot so um okay um i have i have one last fire fest and uh that's just mi general.
Yes. So I'm down here in Miami.
I'm covering the DNC debates. Check out.
I'm posting, like, columns. I interviewed Tom Perez, the head of the DNC.
I'm interviewing some candidates today. There will be, like, some more content coming up from that.
But it is about 90 degrees outside, and it's 90% humidity, same as we experienced back in, was it 2007 for the All-Star game? Yep. It sucks walking outside of Miami.
Within like a half a block, you're drenched in sweat. I packed a lot of white T-shirts like an idiot, so I've got three-quarters of my nipples sticking out everywhere.
You can see everything. It feels awful.
It feels awful walking down the street, and the whole town is just people trying to pretend that they're not hot. It is.
It's terrible. So as much as I like Florida and I like hot weather, this is too much for me.
I feel like I'm drowning here. It's suffocating.
It's suffocating heat in Miami in the summer. Okay, before we get to our interview with Chris Jericho.
Okay, we now welcome on the man of many talents. He's a wrestler.
He's a musician. He's an author.
He's an actor. It's Chris Jericho.
Let's start there. Did you, like, overachieve much, dude? I'll tell tell you what anytime that i start thinking i'm overachieving i get in a van like this and it brings me right back that's right you realize i realize things aren't so great after all yeah you're not an a-lister i would never like you know tom cruise would not be sitting in here he would fit though i wish i was tom cruise i'd be a lot more comfortable right now i noticed that big left out podcaster.
Oh, wow. I don't want to take out of competition, man.

That was kind of a Freudian. Yeah, that's a little competition.
He did that on purpose. Yes, I did do that on purpose.
You're right. That's fine.
I was going to say, out of all these things that you've done, what's the most fulfilling? That's a pretty generic question. You're going to ask me that in the back of a band like this? Give me some pomp and circumstance of a question.
Have you ever worked yourself into a shoot? And also, what does that mean? I'm not really too sure. You know more about the wrestling vernacular than I have.
You know, it's funny to me when you have, I don't know, 10,000 interviews that you do and people go, so tell me what's your motivation for your existence. Like, man, how about say, what's your favorite type of pudding? Oh, let's go tapioca I was just Tapioca, bro I was just talking about Is that the proper pronunciation? Tapioca? Tapioca I'm from Canada So tapioca is how we pronounce it With a soft P You have to take a fist Is there such a thing as a soft P? I had to get a new fuppy the other day.
He took a fist all over the fad wagon. Also pistachio is pretty good.
Let's go back to taffioka. So I was talking about tapioca just earlier today.
Really? How often do you get a chance to talk about tapioca pudding? I can't keep saying tapioca. And literally, it was like 20 minutes ago.
That's a Canadian thing where everyone just says the wrong thing and they're like, oh no, that's what it is. No, that is not what the word is.
Well, what's the word? Tapioca. It's got a P in it.
I would like a lifeline if this was who wants to be a millionaire. Yeah.
I would call that lifeline right now. Okay.
Do you say foutine or poutine? See, there's a thing. Okay.
Yeah. Hold on a second.
That's just eating gross cheese and shit. No, no.
I stay in a poutine. Hold on a second.
Hold on a second. Yeah, yeah.
The generic categorization of saying you're Canadian and you must like poutine. Let me tell you this.
Hockey. I left Canadian.
That's fine. That's all good.
But I left Canada in 1997. Can I talk for a second? Yeah, got it.
And I'd never heard of poutine. What? Now suddenly everybody's Mr.
Poutine, this is poutine, this time, the other thing. Poutine is not the national food of Canada.
It should be. I have never had poutine before, nor have I had poutine.
You call me Rick Putinoino. I just cream myself whenever I see it.
15 seconds. Wow.
You cream in the poutine? That's what the sauce is. I was going to ask you the question about the famous time when a kid went up to you outside of Madison Square Garden and asked for an autograph and you didn't give it to him because you were being a heel.
Then I was going to be like, but why are you being nice to us? But you are being nice to us. You're still being a heel.
So this is what you're doing. You're just a heel all the time.
Well, no, I'm not really a heel all the time. It's just like I said, when you're sitting back here, it's a scrunch between two pieces of man meat, like you said.
It's a little bit of a different vibe. Thank you.
You know what I mean? But it wasn't an autograph. It was a...
So when you work in Madison Square Garden, the Mecca, you have to park across the street. Okay? I remember the first time I worked at the Garden, I pulled up at the back door, and the guy's looking at me like I'm insane.
He's like, you know? I'm like, I'm Chris Jericho. I'm resting here tonight.
He's like, man. I said, well, can I park? And he's like, Mick Jagger doesn't even fucking park again.
Go across the street. So all the fans know that you have to park across the street so there'll be like hundreds of people waiting for you to get out of your car and take the elevator up my thing is when you're when you're a bad guy a heel um you of course obviously just the character you play but when you're on site at the arena you have to play the character yeah you have to because if you don't if you're nice to everybody and then an hour later when you're in the ring and trying to get people to boo you, people are like, I'm not going to boo you.
He's really actually really nice. Yeah, he signed my T-shirt.
Exactly. So I got on the elevator and this kid and his father got on the elevator too and we're about eight floors down because that's the front of the parking garages or parkade if you're Canadian.
Okay. Or farcade if you're flying along at home

as we were saying today. So I got on the thing

and I hit, you know, the elevator hit floor one

and it's eight and it's seven. The guy's like, hey

my son's a big fan. Can you sign

something for him? And I just kept staring. I remember

just like, eight, seven,

six, hey, hey, hey, can you sign

for my kid here?

And I'm like, well you're not going to acknowledge me?

And now we're like five, four. He's like, who do you think you are, huh? Three, two, you think your shit don't stink? You're not going to sign for my kid here.
And I'm like, well, you're not going to acknowledge me? Now we're like five, four. He's like, who do you think you are? Huh? Three, two.
You think your shit don't stink? You're not going to sign for my kid? Huh? I'm like, if we don't get to one pretty soon, this guy's going to physically assault me. We got to one, I left, and all I heard was, hey, Jericho, go fuck this.
Yes. But therefore, later on in the night, when I'm the bad guy and people are booing me, he's going to be even more vociferous with his booing, and he's this guy's a real son of a bitch he wouldn't sign for my kid he wouldn't boo boo boo that's the commitment that you should play when you're doing this kind of live theater that we do yes there are a little part of you that's like man i really don't feel good about being addicted it is and i don't know if i could do that now at the time it was was where I was at.
I really was dropping into things, acting classes and just really getting into it. But I think, like I said, I think at that point in time, you can do that.
When you get older and you have kids and you kind of feel differently, you play the part maybe a little bit differently than you would at that point in time. Did Vince love that? I mean, he must have loved that.
He did, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of different things.
There was another time when I was in the O2 Arena in London and they had these glow sticks for DX. They were like these rebels.
Suck it. Yeah, suck it.
And they had glow sticks like you would have at a rave. And people would make X's out of them.
And they were two for 10 pounds. Two for 10 pounds, mate.
Or 10 pounds, if you're playing at home. And somehow someone threw one at me in the ring, and I actually just watched a video of the day.
I'm talking some shit about England and blah, blah, blah, and England sucks, and you got bad teeth or whatever I said. And right in the middle of it, I get whacked right in the eye with one of these things.
And when you see the video, it comes like, whew, and I was so mad. I was like, you know, I'd like to see the son of a bitch that threw that.

You want to throw something?

I may throw something.

And it's like an avalanche,

a snowstorm of these glow sticks.

Oh, fuck, like a fish concert.

Like a fish concert, yeah, exactly.

And I'm like hitting them away

with my hands like a Jedi.

And me and one thing,

these things cost like 10 pounds each

and they're throwing like 50 of them

and they didn't know what to do.

They just started John Cena's music

to stop them.

But that's once again,

like when things go a little bit

too far over the line.

But if you're a good heel,

I don't know what to do they just started john cena's music to stop them but that's once again like when things go a little bit too far over the line but if you're a good heel someone like vince would appreciate that yeah the rest of the company was really mad at me but he was like you know this is just part of getting this is awesome yeah those are the moments that people remember when you get booed to the point where everyone's like actually angry at you well that's the some some guys got his jal but it was like you know um i think when you when you have a show like we said it's like a live morality play which is what wrestling is like a shakespearean morality play if you want to get philosophical about it you have to have a good bad guy every good good guy needs a bad guy. And it gets harder and harder to play bad guy now because it's a lot easier to get people to hate you than it is to get them to like you.
Ooh, good point. But once they start hating you, that's when they start really liking you.
Yeah. If you think of all the best characters from Darth Vader to Hannibal Lecter to the Joker, every time you first see them, the Terminator, you're super scared of them.
And then by the the sequel they're always good guys right right they're so interesting right and that's the secret of wrestling how do you get to that line of making people hate you but having them to continue to hate you right so you're saying it's easier to turn face than it is to turn heel no I'm not saying that I'm uh well I'm saying when you first appear on the scene it's a lot easier to be abrasive and be kind of a dick so people will hate you. But then if you have a good enough character, they'll always like you.
So I wouldn't say it's easy to turn face, but it's a lot easier for people to dislike you from the start. So when you started, you were Jack Action.
Well, that's not. That's the worst name ever.
Well, it is the worst name ever. Did you come up with that? Well, I did, yeah.
Yeah, that's very Canadian of you. It's from a wasp album okay this band wasp had a song called jack action looking for looking for jack action and i thought well that's really cool so before my first match i was writing jack action uh with uh and that would turn into a star like paul stanley's design gee even lamer yeah on uh on like this like i don't know uh binder that i had like as a binder and the guy that i was training with uh he looked at me he's like what is that jack action is that gonna be your name i'm like oh he goes that's that's the worst name i've ever heard i'm like it's not gonna be my name jack is a stupid name you idiot yeah of course whatever yeah canadian james bond yeah yeah well that's the thing my pancakes blended with not stirred.
Jack action. I like overtime hockey.
Yeah, exactly. It also sounds like some kind of a masturbation machine or something.
That'll do you. Jack action.
Available at the Velvet Rope. Put your dick in here.
Available at the Velvet Rope in Century City. So I just decided that that wasn't going to work, and there happened to be a cassette tape of this German power metal band called Halloween.
And they had an album called The Walls of Jericho. And I thought, well, Jack Action's out the window.
So how about Chris? Jericho! It's genius, I say. And here we are almost 30 years later.
Love it. It's fascinating.
Love it. I don't know if fastening is the word.
No, it is. No, it's fascinating.
Are you doing the heel thing again? No, I just don't. I was being humble.
Yeah, yeah. That was good.
Nice shot. That was really good.
It is interesting. Like, you got the name, you got your first two names from two separate heavy metal bands.
Yeah. Yeah, that kind of shows where my head is at.
Yeah, you're a big metal guy. You grew up as a musician? I always relate everything to rock and roll.
Yeah, I mean, I've been playing in bands since I was 13. And when I was a kid, pretty early on, I decided that I wanted to be in a rock band and I wanted to be a wrestler and didn't worry when people went, you're crazy, you'll never do those things.
I never saw any reason why you couldn't do those things. And here we are once again.
I felt just, I don't really know why people were so concerned about what I wanted to do. I just focused on it myself and made it happen.
And it kind of worked out. Are you a sports fan other than hockey? That's a no.
Okay. I mean, I'm trying to think of any other sports.
I mean, I like some NFL stuff. Okay.
That football stuff's kind of fun. So when teams or players get in the zone, it usually happens in basketball when they can't miss.
Were you in the zone the night that you beat Stone Cold and The Rock? No. I mean, that's just show business, right? Fuck.
Yeah, no. Way to ruin that.
I'm probably much more. No, I'm not no-ending you.
I understand the concept of an interview. I'm getting to the point here.
Okay, all right. I think when that took place, so you almost missed out on this whole brilliant story I'm about to tell you.
All right, let's go. As you're reaching for your balls again.
Well, that's because my producer just gave me a look. Oh, what's the look mean? We gotta wrap it up? No, no, no.
He actually wrote, did Ned Stark steal your haircut or is it the other way around? Oh, very funny, producer. That was the note I got.
Did you steal Horshack's look or did he steal your hair? Oh, damn. Alright, let's do the story.
I'm sorry. I apologize.
What was the question? The Rock in Stone Cold. The night you beat The Rock in Stone Cold.
That was fine. It was fun.
I mean, it's great. Obviously, it's a great honor.
But I don't know if I was really ready for that at the time. So it was cool.
But I always look back on it and going like, oh, is this the pinnacle of your career? And it's really not to me. There's been other ones like having the match with Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania which was the best match on the show.
The match I had at the Tokyo Dome last year against Kenny Omega which was voted match of the year. To do that in the Tokyo Dome for the first time ever working there.
The match we're going to have this Saturday for the first all elite wrestling show Double or Nothing versus Kenny Omega for the rematch. I think it's something that's very important because it's the first show in AEW's history with the biggest match that we have that's got tons of people who are very excited about it.
So that's going to be a very important in-the-zone type of match. So I think sometimes people think certain moments of your career are better than what you think.
me it doesn't it's not up to me it's whatever the people like the best and whatever they think was the most monumental but if you ask me yes of course it's great a great thing to be able to brag about that you beat the rock and steve austin i've been bragging about it for years on the show but when you really go back to it i thought i thought it was a seven out of 10. Interesting.
Okay. And at the time, it was probably the best I could do, but here I am 18 years later, and I know I could be much better.
So what would you have done differently that night? You can't say that. It's just the way that you were thinking at the time compared to now.
There's nothing I would do differently. It's just when I watch it, I go, that's a 7 out of 10.
Yeah. Hmm.
You live and you learn. And you can look back on everything.
And that's the same as anything else. I'm sure you guys watch an interview that you did two years ago and go, we're so much better now.
Just because we have experience and a different mindset. I wish I could have pissed my pants the first time when we had Mark Schlaerth on the podcast.
Mark Schlaerth? Yeah, so he used to piss himself in every football game. See, I don't even know these guys.
And I tried to piss myself, and I couldn't do it. That's pathetic.

I was dehydrated from the night before.

I actually peed my pants.

I peed my pants the night before.

By accident.

I got the pop.

You're much more of a professional.

Yeah, exactly.

But then I did it later, but it's like I look back on that one performance.

I did that second time, too.

You know what?

That was a seven out of ten piss.

Two for two.

Yeah.

Do you want to piss yourself?

I have a long day ahead of me, so the answer is no.

Dr. Phil's going to be right there in a second.
You're in freaking shorts. Yeah.
Does that make it easier or harder? Much easier. To piss yourself? Yeah.
I'd say so. You got that breezeway coming through? Yeah, you let it just go right through.
That's actually a good point. When you're wearing skinny jeans and socks.
Maybe I'll just wear a nice shirt. Me, nice shirt.
I'm wearing everything. You know, I got to go to Kevin Smith's house later.
I can't show up wearing a mask. Oh, nice brag.
Yeah, tell him to say hi. We've had him on the show.
We already went to this place? No, but we don't know. You already went to this place? Yeah.
I went to this place before you did. Yeah, exactly.
Warmed it up for you, dude. Okay, that's cool.
I was actually there three years ago. Oh, fuck.
I was there four years ago. Are you doing the heel thing again? No.
Why do you keep saying that? I don't know. I can't tell.
You've been in heel the whole time. I've had a comment that I've had in my brain the whole time.

Can I just get it out of there?

Please get that lonely thought out of there.

I was going to say that's a really nice bandana.

My dog has the same one.

That's not bad.

Yeah, that's pretty good, right?

Yeah, it is really cool.

I got this.

I used to wear scarves all the time.

And I was watching a Van Halen video the other day from a live performance from about 1980s.

Like, you know, no one wears bandanas.

I'm going to start wearing them.

Wait and see how many people start wearing bandanas. Is that because of me? My dog.
Yeah, well, humans and animals. Yes, yes.
That's true. Cats might even start wearing bandanas.
Yeah, why not? I do like the collar outside of the structure. Yeah, it's getting a little messy.
I knew I opened myself up to the bandana thing. No one is going to be wearing an Aloha collar.
Yeah. That's actually a very Canadian move.
Well, I'm feeling a little fat.

It's actually not. I'm trying to put something over.

You're feeling a lot of fat.

Yeah.

See, all right.

So this is, yeah.

I knew I opened myself up.

I probably shouldn't have done that, but it was just stuck in my brain.

It's fine.

It's fine.

I mean, I'm very confident in my fashion abilities.

We do good cop, bad cop.

I think you look great.

Here's a quote from Colin Coward.

I want you to respond to this quote.

Our friend, Colin Coward, great guy. Really super individual.
Colin Cow Colin Coward? Yeah. CowTurd.
I thought it was CowHerd. Yeah, that's it.
CowTurd. But is it pronounced Coward? I call him Coward.
Is English your second language? Well, Canadian's my first name. What are you talking about, man? Colin Yellowbelly.
And he says wrestling fans are pathetic, lonely booger eaters. Well, I think Colin Coward fans are pathetic, lonely booger eaters.
I think Colin Coward fans are pathetic, lonely,

booger eaters.

There's your headline.

I love when people say stuff like that.

I'm going to get mad about it.

Who gives a shit?

Want to pick your nose and eat it? Go for it, man. I don't care.

Everyone's done it once.

Almost more than once.

We actually don't like Colin.

I don't like him either. We don't like him.
So your podcast. Well, I don't like him either.

Yeah, we don't like him.

How do you like the podcast game?

Once again, that's a pretty generalized question.

Open-ended game.

Go with it however you want, wherever direction you want to go.

Here's another way to ask that.

So you have a podcast.

Yeah.

Tell us about it.

Talk about the podcast.

Worst thing ever.

Okay, so I'll define it a little bit better.

You started obviously coming up in wrestling, a lot of different places, Mexico, all over the place, trying to build yourself up to a point where you can be like this big star. Now you have the ability to control your own media in a situation like the podcast.
Okay. Yeah.
That's pretty good, right? You can go direct to fans. I would have went this way.
You got a podcast talk as Jericho. It's really great.
I really enjoy it. Who's your favorite guest? Who's your favorite guest, Chris? That could have been a good one.
Well, I'm just trying to plug the podcast. We're going to cut out of this part.
I appreciate that. Well, we're going to cut most of this.
Yeah, right. All of it.
Especially on my social media, it's just going to be me and you guys will be Photoshopped out. Who's your favorite guest? It's funny because I think the best guests are the ones where you just have a conversation, To me, that's why I love doing podcasts because I know what it's like to have somebody that sits down with a list of questions and they're so concerned about what the next question is.
They're not listening to the answer. Oh, I haven't even read any of these questions.
I haven't. I couldn't read them either.
I wrote down these words. You wrote down Chris.
That's good. Yeah, Chris.'s your name but i think if you're gonna if you're gonna have a conversation with somebody like if we just met up at a bar like what's up dude and then uh you just start talking yeah and that's kind of what i think the brilliance of a podcast is but it's not easy to do that like sometimes you have to uh interject yourself if someone's going off the rails sometimes like when i had mike tyson on i think he thought that it was a yes or no question and answer session because that's all he said.
After a while, I was just like, all right, I'm just going to start talking. You can listen to me, Iron Mike.
But I think when you can really learn how to do that and then get a great guest on top, like for example, William Shatner. What a great guest.
Because he'll listen to what you're saying, but then also, okay, so I see that you have your nice sunglasses. Where did you get those sunglasses? What do you think the benefit of sunglasses are? And you're like, then you're talking about sunglasses with William Shatner.
Those type of guests are always a lot of fun. I think Vanilla Ice I had on, he was a blast.
I mean, not that those are the two best, but just popping through Chris Tucker, Hulk Hogan, Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons,

Lars Ulrich from Metallica.

Anybody that has a personality that knows that a carrier conversation is fine.

So when you have those guys like the dudes from Kiss are Lars,

are you starstruck a little bit because you grew up as a fan?

No, because I know them now.

I mean, when I first met them, I was.

But this is pre-podcast times. When I met, I had Tony Iomone on from Black Sabbath who's possibly the greatest heavy metal riff writer of all time I'm not going to freak out when he comes in but it's pretty cool but I got a job to do you know I can't be a mark you remember that time when you were in Black Sabbath that was awesome like once again that's just going to kill the interview so you just got to be cool and run with it and go with it.
You know, one of the big goals is Paul McCartney. What if I

could get Paul McCartney? He's done a few podcasts.

Chris Hardwick has had him. He has?

Yeah. Sir Paul.

So what would you say to Paul that he'd

never, you know, been

asked before? And that's what you just have to talk about.

Who farted the most in the Beatles? I mean, you might get that.

You just got to kind of read the situation.

I'm sure if you got him in the right

zone, you could ask him that. If it came up that way.
How much did you hate Yoko? Are you dead? Are you dead, Paul? Well, yes, I am. And then I get the scoop.
Yeah. And then everyone knows.
But I also love, I do a lot of paranormal shows, talking to ghost hunters. Whoa.
Sorry, let's do that. Let's get down there.
I believe the possibility of all those things, because I think if you didn't at least entertain the possibility, it would be a pretty boring world that we live in. But when you talk to somebody, like once I had a flat earth society guy on.
Now, I don't really believe it, but when you're finished talking to this guy for an hour, you walk around going, he's got some good points. Yeah, he made some sense.
I'm going to look at these YouTube links. There aren't any flights from New York to Hong Kong or whatever.

Australia.

From Australia to Chile.

It gives you some food for thought and perspective.

And to me, when you have a great guest on that's committed to what he's saying,

it always makes for a great show, no matter what the topic is.

I agree.

So there's always a lot of fun.

We were going to have a flat earther on our show.

But then the problem, if you have a flat earther on, like look into that person's background and the other stuff they believe and they believe just some wild shit that you don't want to put a microphone to. But that's what I mean you just don't let them go astray.
We're talking just about the flat earth society and the flat earth concept and when you're done I mean like I you'll be going, this is a great hour of audio.

Whether you believe it, whether you think it's total hogwash, or whether you think there's some chances, some merit to what he's saying, it makes for a really entertaining subway ride if you're going home from work. I agree.
So have you ever been touched by a ghost? I haven't been touched by a ghost as far as I know. I've actually, to be honest with you, I just a show for the travel channel um where we went looking for kind of um mysterious creatures in the new orleans swamps and part of it was based around voodoo which is based around a burial ground where there was some real strange shit going on with spirits and one of the guys uh this ghost hunting crew who i can tell you know when You've in a show, these guys are not liars.
They're pretty legit and they're pure-hearted people. And there's an EKG thing or something.
You hit the thing and then if it hits green, there's spiritual activity going on. The ghost-ometer.
The ghost-ometer. And that thing, when you pointed it right here on my arm, right there, it was like green.
You point away nothing. Green.
And I'm like, there's no button on this there's no metal on here and for whatever reason something had attached itself holding on to you yeah it's holding on to me and uh and not only that i felt weird like i felt like i'd just been on a roller coaster and my insides had been kind of shaken up and a little bit nauseous you got touched by something was was going on and what we were doing, I had a machete because we were cutting through the swamp and I put the machete in the ground to start talking and talking. And that's when all the weird stuff started happening.
When I took the machete out it stopped. You got connected to the earth.
Yeah, you stabbed their ground. Maybe stabbed them.
I don't know. And like I said, dude, I've've seen and done it all i wouldn't be spinning this yarn if i wasn't telling you that it really happened i believe you i believe this especially really yes i felt it yes especially in louisiana in the swamps and we're looking for trouble there's something about louisiana where you just step down the state's magic and you're like this is unusual right but usually in a great way but but but and this you know this it made for a great tv but we were there looking for trouble and we found some yeah now we did a cleansing after that's a whole new a whole different thing of the voodoo thing and so because when you tell some people that they go did you get a cleansing because you know you could have like a damn you could still have it yeah hang on to you then you're the stranger like whenever you go back to the jack's jack jack yeah that's what it is but i mean i think so so i have had a few of those type experiences but mostly just enjoy hearing about them yeah i tried to buy a ghost once really on craigslist yeah yeah it didn't work out today they got cold feet because i asked too many questions they said that you asked too many questions i'm not selling you my ghost it was in a little uh shoe box.
Really? Yeah. Kind of like a Ghostbusters put them in the little box.
Yeah, they were just going to send it to me. It would have been fucking badass.
What were they asking for? Like 200 bucks. That's pretty...
No, that's a fair asking for it. Did they have a proof of certificate? Like a proof of...
No, I just believed them. Kind of like you're saying.
Like you could kind of... I don't know.
I like to believe people who are eccentric, people who have different stories, and when they, like, really feel invested in it and tell it to you, you can feel the authenticity. I've got a ghost in a box.
Do you? Yeah, I can sell it to you. 150 bucks.
Deal. Done.
Right now. Where? It's outside.
You're a motherfucker. You're doing back to the heel.
We would actually buy that ghost from you right now. Yeah, you saw a shoebox.
You saw a sucker in my eye. You're like, this sucker.
I saw a shoebox in the trash. I was going to grab it and come over and give it to you.
That would have been bad karma for you, though. You can't do that.
To sell a fake ghost? That's bad. That a real ghost would have gotten you.
You would have gotten a ghost, yeah. You would have been fucked.
The ghost would be in the money that you got from him. Agreed.
Have you ever sneezed around Vince McMahon? He hates sneezing. Yeah.
Because it's a lack of control. Yes.
Because you can't control it. Yes.
He also doesn't like whiskers. What? He doesn't like whiskers.
Like cats' whiskers? What is that? Like human. Oh.
He would hate it. He would seriously, like, deep down inside, not like any of our beards.
Right. Does not like people when they get sick, they get a cold that's not allowed either

very interesting guy for sure

what was your relationship?

really good

really got some good perspective

good respect for each other

and that's why when I left

in 2016

17 to go on tour with Fozzy

and then I started working for New Japan

I did like 4 matches with him last year

but I told him about it

And then I started working for New Japan. I did like four matches with him last year, but I told him about it.
And then when the AEW thing came out, the new company that I'm working for now, I told him, I think he thought maybe I was bluffing at first. But then when I actually signed there and went there, he was like, are you kidding me? You actually went? I'm like, well, I told you I was.
I gave you the chance to talk. So yeah, I don't don't know or our relationship is now i've got nothing against him but yeah you know now i'm working on the other side of the battle lines yeah he seems like a guy that it takes a while to earn his respect of course it does i mean how many people have worked for him over the years right hundreds thousands so to get vince's respect you got to earn it but once you get it you've got it does he does he like test you at first i got sure that you're a guy that he can probably i was there for almost 10 years before i think i lived up to the potential that he thought that i had so there's a lot of there's a lot of testing there's a lot of a lot of a lot of uh military type covert operations going on but that's kind of the way the business is run there but like i said once you can get that respect then you've got it for for life yeah interesting i mean he's a fascinating guy because he he obviously doesn't let a lot of his private out there but he's like run such a successful business for so long and the stories you hear people can't sneeze around him like all these stories are like this mythological guy.
And he basically is. Right.
You know what I mean? Like I say, there's only one other guy that I can think of that's like him. That's Lorne Michaels from the creator of Saturday Night Live.
Who's created this kind of iconic, lifelong pop culture phenomenon that's based on talent constantly coming and going. Right.
And sometimes you get a real hot one and then they go down and then it's kind of a rough season then they get somebody else that comes up but the one constant is the vision of vince and the vision of lorne michaels and neither one of them can be swayed and what they believe is right or wrong and who they believe can be a top top guy we struggle with that at barstool like that's kind of the riddle that barstool's been trying to find out uh for the history of the company is how to like bring in new talent always be like you know not recycling new talent but like figuring out new stars and all that stuff because you want the brand to live longer the brand is bigger than any one star but if you get one of those stars that becomes super huge and popular then how do you you know how do you replace uh will ferrell right replace you know all these people that that have come and gone over the years uh and then they'll be all this season sucks there's no big stars but then someone will pop through and suddenly sign lives they hit again same with wb you know well there's no big stars right now well there's a couple guys in the works and maybe somebody strikes big and then suddenly you got a hot a hot commodity yeah um so i i think that's something that that those two guys can be compared like nobody else can and i also think there's a element of a victim of your own success where like for wwe a perfect example is everyone at least my age group thinks of the attitude era yeah they're like late 90s early 2000s that was when wrestling was wrestling they'll never get the attitude era back just like barstool a lot of our fans would be like i miss when it was just five guys not 150 people but i mean once again that's how that's how things you know uh evolve right like you can never go back to like well i liked the nhl when wayne greski was playing and getting you know 200 points a year you're not going to get a guy to get 200 points again in hockey ever you just just aren't because the guys are bigger. The rules have changed.
The concept and mindset of what the teams do is different. So you can enjoy that time frame, but you're not going to get it back.
Attitude era, it's not going to happen again. And on top of that, if you actually go back and watch the attitude era, you know, there's a great sketch comedy show in Canada called SCTV.
Classic Martin Short, John Candy, Dave Thomas, Andrew Martin, Catherine O'Harahera genius when you go back and watch it yeah there's a genius but there's also a lot of crap on there too and it's the same with the attitude there maybe every show you'll get two or three or four great things and like four or five things that's really great it's how you're out yeah it's where you were when you were watching right exactly my place tricks on you i hear a sublime album I'm back in middle school. Right.
And there's some albums that you'll listen to that you can listen to legitimately now. Yep.
But then you'll go back and listen to that Sublime album and go, well, I was more into that when I was 15. It's not really catching me the same as it used to.
So you get that vibe. And I think that's one of those things that with WWE being a monopoly for so long, right out of out of the attitude era then they bought wcw then it's just been wwe i think now with aew even coming into existence it's a great thing for the wrestling business because it gives people a choice yep and there's nothing wrong with having a choice yeah on top of that it gives the guys who are working the wrestlers girls and guys uh some some uh what's what i'm looking for where you have a choice between two some leverage yep and then it's also going to stick a boot up vince's ass you know you're not just competition if you're running a race and no one's behind you you slow down you stop have a drink whatever if there's someone right on your heels and you're about ready to lose the race you're going to run as fast as you can yeah it's a good point because the attitude era came from that wcw it did goldberg and like and then i remember being like goldberg's the fucking man i love that guy and then right after that vince won right 2001 he bought wcw that was the end of viable competition now you actually have a group of performers who have worldwide name value and experience who haven't really been seen on the national scale here with the exception of of me.
You've got a couple big-name guys that people know like me, Jim Ross, those type of guys. You've got huge financial backers in the Khan family that own the Jacksonville Jaguars.
They own the Fulham Football Club in the Premier League. Well, they were in the Premier League.
I know about that. I own a team that got relegated.
Do you really? Yeah. They got relegated.
Is it a team of ghosts? Swansea. Oh, okay.
Yeah. I know Swansea.
Yeah, I own it. I've said there before.
Yeah, yeah. You own the city of Swansea? Well, no, I own the team.
Oh, okay. 0.001% of 1%.
Oh, okay. That's all right, man.
That's an owner, right? So, five, ten pounds. Yeah.
Is that not an owner? I own three glow sticks worth of Swansea. Yeah, well.
The DX glow sticks. Don't throw them at me.
Yeah, okay. Then you lose that investment.
It's interesting. But let me finish my point.
And then throw in not only the financial backing, the talent, and then the television deal with TNT, which incidentally is the same network that WCW Nitro was on. Now you have a viable alternative.
All checks, all boxes are checked. And I think it's the first time we've ever seen this uh in decades so i guess the real question is how much of the secret sauce of wwe was directly from vince's brain and how much can be replicated somewhere else because he touches everything right like he controlled everything everything and like i said when you get a guy like that i mean it's like okay if van halen's playing guitar in van halen then he quits and they get i don't Steve Vai.
You got a guy who's a brilliant player, but it's not Eddie. It's just a different way of thinking.
And I think Vince is one of those guys, he's a genius. When people bag on Vince for like, oh, he's losing it, or this was a bad idea, how many ideas has the guy had over the last 30 years? Let's just say 10,000 ideas.
If 9,000 of them are great and 1,000 of them don't work, that's a 10% failure rate and a 90% success rate. He still has that.
It's just that now he's in charge of this billion-dollar company that's corporate, publicly traded. So, you know, he's 75 years old, but he still understands the wrestling business.
That never changes. The bottom line and basic concept of what wrestling is doesn't change um what's the secret sauce for jericho is learned at the at the at the hands of vince mcmahon and pat patterson his kind of main lead right hand man so there's a lot of things i've learned from those guys that i can bring to aew that no one else knows from working so closely with vince and from having that trust not that you're betraying, but you're learning and using those skills for your own ability.
So when you get a chance to study with a guy like Vince, take it and learn from as much as you can because when he's gone, you cannot replicate that. Right.
You cannot replace that. All right.
I got one last question. Seek Geek question.
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Do you do SeatGeek on your podcast? Is that where you get tickets? Yeah, yeah, tickets. I have used it before.
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Promo code TAKE.
I just saved you $10. Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Last question. Is the one next time I go to a Swansea game? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get me $10 off? Yeah. Okay.
Tickets are probably less than that now. Then I can buy two of them.
Yeah, right. Do you like us? Good question.
Thanks. Wow.
That's a great question, right? Once again, a very broad question. Yeah.
Do you like us? I do like you guys. I don't think you like us.
Well, I think that you should shut your mouth and let me answer the fucking question. Oh, there we go.
He's going back to the heel. My goal is to get in the walls of Jericho.
No, you become very abrasive at times, so if I answer the question, you get mad at me and say it's going heel. Yeah.
Yeah. A little bit annoying in but i sense this part of your appeal yeah you're you know i'm just i'm just reacting to the vibe that you're throwing down um i like the fact you're doing it in this van um i think at some point we should take a cross-country trip in this van yes film it all the way yes but sit like this from like you know from l.a to new york if you got to know us you'd like us a lot more i think if i got to know i'd like you a lot less yeah i'd agree I think we're on the way.
Yes. I would sit like this from LA to New York.
If you got to know us, you'd like us a lot more. I think if I got to know it, I'd like you a lot less.
Yeah, I'd agree. I think where I am right now is probably the highest amount of liking I'm going to get with you guys, which is good.
You always leave people wanting more. In this case, you're leaving people wanting less.
Right. They're like, that was just the right amount to never want that again.
You know what's funny? No one ever even told me what your guys' names were.

No.

Sam and Dave.

Did I get that?

Yeah.

I'm Dave.

I'm Sam.

He's Sam.

He's Dave.

No, that's not our names.

That's okay.

I'm Dan.

Big Cat.

Dan and Save.

Yes, Dan and Save.

His name is Save.

They call me Save. Yeah.

Like you save the interview every time he screws up. I'm the guy that comes in.
There you go. So his name is Dan.
Yeah. I'll remember that.
What's your name? Save. His name is Save.
They call me Save. Yeah, yeah.
Save. They call me Save.
It's like you save the interview every time he screws up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm the guy that comes in. There you go.
Okay, so his name is Dan. Yeah.
I'll remember that. What's your name? Save.
Okay. Just call me Save.
I'll be Save. That's actually a pretty cool calendar name.
Dan and Save. Dave and San.
Pretty chill. Dave and San.
Mm-hmm. Dave San.
Yeah, Dave San. Like Karate Kid.
Yeah, Dave San. It just occurred to me that what you just described probably happens a lot.
We really like people that we interview. We think that we're really good friends with them.
And then they leave and they're like, those guys are nuts. They're like, we're great friends.
When you have a press day, right, which I'm doing right now, you have a list of interviews that you do. So the one I did before this was at Sirius and it was Covino and Rich.
Great guys. But I know their names.
But now I have to on the fly figure out which one is Covino and Which is pretty easy to figure out. One guy's a Hispanic guy, one guy's a New York guy.
So I got that one. So I did not see, all I saw was Barstool Sports, pardon my interruption.
Pardon my take. And I did not see Dan and Save.
Okay, and now how do you rank us against all the other interviews you've done today? I think it's probably, it's been the longest. Oh, good.
We'll take it. We're never letting you out.
Of all the interviews I've had today, this is definitely one of them. Okay.
I like it. All right.
I mean, we should end there. Chris Jericho.
What can you say? This has been an interview. I like it, Chris Jericho.
With Dan and Save. Dan and Save, Chris Jericho, legend.
You're welcome on any time. Thank you.
We'll see you again. Appreciate it.
I'm going to Google you guys so I'll know your names. That's friends.
That's friends for life. Fuck that.
Really not going on. I'll bring some free ghosts for you guys.
Don't fuck around with that. You can't give a ghost away, by the way.
I was about to buy that fucking box. Was it a Dybbuk? I was about to buy that box.
I saw a movie with a go find Dybbuk. But you realized what you were about to do to me.

You were going to sell me a box.

And you were very happy with it. Well, the ghost would have come after you

forever. Well, they would have come after you for being a dumbass

that gave me $150.

Agree to disagree. Chris Jericho.

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And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Dale, we wanted to ask you a bunch of questions, but we're going to start with one.

You used to be a smoker, and now you're a Nicorette gum chewer,

and you got a new ice mint lozenge out.

So tell us about that real quick.

Yeah, I was a smoker for 15 years.

I've been a non-smoker for about seven years.

And Nicorette came to me with this new product, a coated ice mint lozenge you talk about, and wanted to know if I'd be willing to tell my story and how I'd quit and try to encourage people in the same situation that are wanting to quit smoking to try this mint lozenge so that it could give them the advantage they need to finally finally knock out that, that terrible habit. I'm, uh, I'm glad it's no longer a part of my life and want to give somebody else that same happiness.
All right. So Dale, how's retirement going? Let's start there.
I mean, you're obviously very busy. You've got a podcast.
You were at the Indy 500. You're at the Kentucky Derby.
How is retirement going other than the fact that you're doing like a million jobs? That's the thing, man. I didn't think I was going to be working as much as I am today.
And I think as I get down the road, I'll do a little bit better job of managing my time. But I have a lot going on, and it's keeping me busy, which is nice.
But at the same time, I got a new daughter, Isla. She's about 14 months.
And I love being around her and spending time with her. And so I'm trying to figure out a way to sort of manage my time a little better where I can, you know, do that.
But it's been wide open. We wrote a book and we went on a book tour and did that over the last year.
Obviously, when, you know, I'm working with NBC year-round. We cover the races for half of a year.
Fox covers the first half of the season, and we cover the second half of NBC. And when we're not covering races for NASCAR, they send me to other sporting events that they're a big part of.
That's been pretty fun to see how creative they get plugging me into them situations. And I went to the 8500 first time in my life, which was awesome as hell.
I mean, I'd suggest anybody to go to that event at least once. I went to the Kentucky Derby for the first time in my life this year.
And again, that's a bucket list item that you have to go see at least once in your life. I went to the South Korea for the Winter Olympics.
I mean, I'd have never went to South Korea in my life, much less been able to go to the Olympics. As a race car driver, we were so busy, we could never do these things.
But since I retired, it's opened the door and teaming up with NBC has really been a vessel to get me to these places. To be able to go around all those locations, I basically got this grand tour of the Kentucky Derby grounds during the biggest day of the year for the racetrack.
I got up close to some of the horses, and those damn horses are incredible, man. They're impressive athletes.
And we got to meet and talk to some pretty cool people um so it was i i enjoyed it it's it's a little bit nerve-wracking because live tv you just gonna you're gonna be nervous you can't help it you're gonna be nervous about the you know they're getting ready to throw it to you you're getting ready to be on tv in front of 100 people you don't want to make a mistake during the indy 500 we were in the snake pit which is the craziest thing i've ever seen yeah you know you're going to make mistakes and so i think i said the daytona 500 while i was standing there doing a hit with rudd on live tv for the indy 500 and your producer comes in your ear and goes hey you screwed up you said the daytona 500 fix it so you have to figure out a to figure out a way to come back on air moments later and talk about how awesome the Indy 500 is. Do you think it would be more difficult to make the transition from racing NASCAR to racing horses or racing horses to racing NASCARs? I think a jockey trying to go race NASCAR would be the tougher transition.
Yeah. Probably, yeah.
Do you think jockeys are athletes absolutely okay you gotta hang on to that horse just imagine this like when you're sitting in the gate and that horse takes off i think it takes everything that you have to be able to not be thrown off the horse in that moment and be left in the gate i mean the horses take when that horse takes that horse takes off, it's hard to ask. And I don't know, man, I think that you'd have to be an athlete and very athletic to just hang on in that one moment.
There's strategy to it as far as how your horse races. Some races, some horses are closers.
The horse that won and got disqualified, he was a guy that jumps out and leads right away, and he'll lead the whole race if he can. As a jockey, you've got to know how your horse performs and when he needs to go.
They just don't haul ass and take off running and it's the first one back. There's a process in that race as to how they use the horse and when the horse is going to know, when the horse is, you know, going to be able to perform and close at the end of the race.
What do you miss about racing the most? Is it the competition? Is it the rivalries? Is it the speed? Were you addicted to speed at any point in your life? The one thing I miss about racing the most is probably the, uh, my team, the friendships that you make on your team. You travel with these guys every single week, and you're racing.

They're working on your car, trying to help you win,

and then your life is in their hands.

And so you build these great friendships with the group of guys that you're with.

The other thing that I miss is probably just passing a car. Like, passing a car is like making a shot or or scoring a touchdown catching the ball intercepting the ball passing a car is is a success you know a moment of success throughout a race and so trying to get around the guy or trying to figure out his weak spot or trying to figure out how to make that pass happen is a lot of fun and you can tell when your car car is better than somebody else's.
And it's just a matter of time of where you're going to get around this guy. That moment is really exhilarating.
Yeah, I like that. Just passing the car.
I've always wondered, too, like after you win a race, you guys are always so great about shouting out all your sponsors. Do you have to mix up which sponsor you say first every time time or is it like always a set pattern you're like okay i'm going to thank bud weiser first then i'm going to thank this guy this guy this guy there's one sponsor that's going to pay the most money and that's the one you better get in so your primary sponsor is somebody you you shouldn't forget um i wasn't always great about that i, if you look at some of my interviews, I rarely

even mentioned my sponsors. And I would all, you know, because I would talk in the moment, and I would talk about my emotion and how I felt or, you know, and answer the question as genuinely as I could.
And a lot of times, a sponsor is not going to work into that. So a lot of times I was not the best at doing that.

But then I could, and a lot of times a sponsor's not going to work into that. So a lot of times I was not the best at doing that.

But, yeah, if you're going to make your sponsors,

you want to go from the one that's paying the biggest bill,

the one that's putting the bill for your team.

Because today in motorsports for a Winston Cup team,

it costs about probably $15 million,

$10 million to $20 million to race in in in nascar successfully and usually one company is going to going to be paying for the majority of that expense so that's the guys you got to work in speaking of sponsorships how much mountain dew do you think you've drank in your entire life oh man i don't know um Quite a bit. Not as much Budweiser, though.
We drank a lot more Budweiser, I think. Those are some wild days.
Yeah. So you're a big Redskins fan.
I grew up rooting for the team. Can you please tell me on why you think that this year is going to be the year that they're able to turn it around? We did draft Haskins, which gets me excited as a fan.
I mean, if we were going into this offseason and camp and preseason without Haskins, look at the rest of the quarterbacks on the team. I mean, I can't get it.
I'm sorry. I can't get excited about that.
Case Keenum doesn't do it for you? No, not really. You know, I mean, not that he can't do the job.
I just – I need – I would rather there be a little tougher competition for him, and that's what we got in the draft. And, I mean, we don't know what's going to happen with that – with the quarterback situation and who's going to start and all that crap, but at least we've got something to look forward to.

I've gotten to the point now as a Redskins fan,

it ain't even about wins and losses for me anymore.

It's not.

I mean, if it was about that, I would have quit being a Redskins fan a long time ago.

For me, it's about give me something to look forward to.

Give me something to be excited about, players, personalities.

Like we've been drafting some really kick-ass guys on our defense. I hope to, you know, I want to watch them play out.
Being a fan of Trent Williams and watching him work that offensive line over the years is what's kept me a fan. That's kept me as a fan of the Redskins.
It hasn't been the success on the field. Right.
It's been the personalities and the people playing the game. The guys that will gut it out in the shittiest years and stick around and give it their best.
Like, Trent's a perfect example of that. He's an all-star tackle, one of the best that's ever played the position, at least for the Redskins.
And he's had every reason to want to get the hell out of there, and he's hung in there and given everything he's got, and we're drafting a lot of good character guys, at least, you know, across the board, and so watching them dudes, Ryan Kerrigan and all these guys develop and, you know, be key players on the team is really fun for me, so Haskins, that's a great reason to tune in and be plugged in through camp and on into preseason. Let's see what Haskins can do.
Dale, I have a question. So when I was searching fun facts, Dale Earnhardt Jr., some interesting things popped up.
So I need some clarification on a few things that I read. The is do you own a gas tank at your house i have a gas tank at my house that i keep you know we it's cheaper to buy it in bulk so i keep a gas tank at the house and fuel up there do you ever let like your friends fuel up or is it just for you nobody else better be using it i like it so all right so you should need to go all the way though.
You need to have like a little convenience store next to the gas tank too and have someone like working at 24 hours so you can go grab like, you know, some Mountain Dew and some Fritos and feel like you get the full experience. That sounds like a pain in the butt.
Okay. All right.
Next one is, do you, did you at a Wild West town on your property? I still do. Yeah.
It's a western town called Whiskey River. It's got a saloon and jail cells, the sheriff's office, the hotel with the rooms.
It's got a church. We've had weddings there.
We've had a lot of parties there. Holy shit.
What are the laws in Whiskey River? Are they different from North Carolina state laws or what's different about it? I've only locked one person up. They got a little too drunk one night.
Otherwise, you know, pretty much the same laws. Yeah.
So do you go down there and just hang out in your town? That's pretty much the coolest thing anyone could do is just build themselves their own town. Yeah.
I go down there and hang out. Me and and my friends we'll go down there and drink a few beers and pretty chill um hey are there any ghosts down there do you believe in ghosts it's uh yeah i don't think there's ghosts there yeah i believe in ghosts sure okay good answer good answer all right and then the other thing that i read uh which i can't believe that you and your father didn't talk about racing, that you just kept it, you know, father-son not getting into the details about racing.

Is that true?

That's true.

He wasn't hands-on bad, like, let's go out in the yard and throw the ball.

Let me tell you how to drive a corner.

Let me, you know, let me tell you how to drive around this track.

There were a couple scenarios.

If it happened, I can count those times on one hand um he just wasn't very hands-on you know he was racing as well so he had so much crap going on he didn't have a whole lot of time for really anybody um and he was so he was gone traveling i was home going to school and and when i would race i would go some i would go race at other racetracks. So he hardly ever saw me race for the first four years of my career.
Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's crazy, because you obviously think like Earnhardt Sr., Earnhardt Jr., you guys sat down and talked about all the racing, but that clearly wasn't the case.
Was it weird growing up in Earnhardt in the racing community? Did people look at you differently? Did they maybe make a preconceived notion of you before they met you and found out the type of guy you were? I think so. In high school, I don't know.
There were some kids that liked racing, but it wasn't like the preps didn't like it. The athletes and all that, the guys that played basketball, football, they didn't really give a dang about it.
I played soccer, and none of the guys on the soccer team cared. My dad was Dale Earnhardt.
So it wasn't a real advantage. It didn't make me cooler in school.
I wish you had, but it really didn't. So it wasn't much of an advantage there.
But once I,

I think once, you know, I got a little older, people thought, that's pretty neat. You know, they thought it was cool that I was related to him, wanted to know all about him.
You know, you get questions about him all the time. Even today still, people want to know so much about my dad.

So it's something that I'm

proud of.

Yeah. even today still people want to know so much about my dad so it's something that I'm proud of yeah I wish it had been something that would help me in high school that'd have been nice yeah yeah seriously I've always wondered about NASCAR if there's how much like gamesmanship goes on because obviously you guys want to win every single race that you're in so a lot of times I'm sure that people will take like little, they'll cut corners here and there.
But how much actual cheating do you think goes on in the sport? Or is it more a case of like if you can get away with it, it's not cheating? If you can get away with it, it's not cheating. So ever since racing began, guys have been trying to break the rules or bend the rules in their favor.
And I'll say this, like if you take a stock, if you take a car that's legal from front to back, completely legal through the rule book, you're not going to run very well. You're not going to do well.
And the crew chief that I want, the team team that i want are the ones that are willing

to gamble and and be aggressive with the rules bend the rules maybe break a few rules because i know that that's what i'm competing against and the guys with the most creativity and ingenuity are the guys that are going to build you the best car the one that can go out there and have a have an advantage over everybody else.

I like it.

So we are a Denny Hamlin podcast. best car the one that can go out there and have a have an advantage over everybody else i like it

um so we are a denny hamlin podcast and with that we are an anti joey slogano podcast i know you're friends with joey slogano but he did make like an age joke on your podcast recently um what's his deal what's that guy's deal he's he's a jerk joey is not a jerk um one time joey had a problem trying to get to a racetrack he was flying to phoenix and uh he and at the last minute he called me and he said hey i need a ride i'm having trouble getting there with my plane or something so i said no, no problem, hop on. I wasn't a big Joey fan.

I didn't dislike the guy.

I just didn't like him.

It was kind of either way.

And he rides on the airplane to Phoenix, runs his race.

On Monday morning, I got a check in the mail to my foundation for $10,000 from Joey.

I had the kindness of his heart for me giving him a lift to the racetrack that weekend.

I mean, the guy's got a decent heart down in there.

He's all right.

Now, the racetrack, he drives a little different, but he got beat up.

You know, the guys were pretty rough on him for a long time when he was a rookie.

When he was younger, he got pushed around a lot.

Yeah.

The sport, all the guys that

have raced against him had sort of created what he is on the racetrack

so I I'm still not gonna like yeah that's a good story it sounds like he

has to pay for friends yeah we're Denny Hamlin guys we can't understand that

we can't leave our guy through and through you like Denny Hamlin you a

Denny Hamlin fan in Danny we've known each other for probably two fifteen

Thank you. You've got to understand that.
We can't leave our guy. Through and through with Denny Hamlin.
You a Denny Hamlin fan? He and Denny have known each other for probably, shoot, 15, 20 years. He's all right.
We're good friends. All right, perfect.
Have you ever hung out with Michael Jordan with him? I've not hung out with Michael Jordan and Denny at the same time. That has not ever happened.
Oh, so you've hung out with Michael Jordan separate from Denny. I've seen Michael around.

And I don't know him like Denny knows. Denny knows him really

well.

Yeah, we've had Denny on the show a couple

times, and he called Michael Jordan for us

and he picked up the phone call. It was pretty much

the best moment of my life. You can't get

any better than that. Yeah.

Alright, I had one last question. It's a SeatGeek question.

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Thank you. get any better than that yeah um all right i have one last question it's a seek geek question you can put in promo code take and you get ten dollars off your seek geek purchase where do you rank all time juniors so you got ken griffey jr cal ripken jr uh junior soprano before he died where do you think you rank in all-time juniors hell i don't know man um There's a lot of awesome juniors out there.
But, yeah, the fact that I'm getting asked this question is actually pretty cool, but I was a big King Griffey Jr. fan.
I had all his baseball cards when I was little, so I put him up there. I have a Cal Ripken second-year Fleer he was pretty bad-ass.
We actually had races named after Cal Ripken. Really? Uh, I might've won one.
Yeah. We had the Cal Ripken 400 or something.
It was, uh, I think I might've won that race or I can't remember. No way.
That's crazy. Why did they do that? He sponsored it? I don't know.
He was, well, no, he didn't sponsor it, but some company he was paired with brought him in, and he was at the race. I'm sure you can look it all up and figure it all out.
Yeah, you won it. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
The 2001 MBNA Cal Ripken Jr. 400.
There you go. And you won it.
What about Junior's Cheesecake? that's pretty good too yeah damn good job for you you cowropkin junior that's junior junior that's like the that was the best junior day of all time that's awesome mlk junior too he was a good one that's true yeah harry connick junior yeah cuba gooding junior cuba gooding john f kennedy junior Freddie Prince Jr. I've become better than Terry Tonic Jr.
He was a good one. That's true.
Harry Connick Jr. Yeah.
Cuba Gooding Jr. Cuba Gooding Jr.

John F. Kennedy Jr.

Freddie Prinze Jr.

I've become better than Harry Connick Jr.

He wasn't very good at sports.

Yes, that's true.

Shots fired.

That's true.

We got some junior on junior crime going on.

Yes, yes.

All right.

Big Cat just asked his last question.

I have one last, last question, then we'll let you be on your way.

If Dan Snyder has one seat left on his private jet and he can either pick up you or Matthew McConaughey, who do you think he's picking up? Good Lord, I hope he picks me up. You know, Matthew's pretty cool, but could you imagine talking Redskins with him? No, I can't imagine talking anything with him besides just chilling out with him.
I actually would like to talk Redskins with him. I wonder how.
I bet he talks about all the Super Bowls and really slow, real slow talking. Oh, yeah.
That'd be pretty interesting, actually, for about 15 minutes. Yeah.
Let me talk to you real quick about the first time I laid eyes on Mark Riven. All right.
Thank you so much, Junior. Appreciate it.
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First up, I had to stay woke for you, PFT. So, your boy, now that I'm a father, I've watched a lot of get-up in the morning because that's my time to be a father.
And I've been watching a lot of get-up. Your boy, Greeny, is very upset because we have the big-time controversy of whether the NBA will lessen the season from 82 games to who knows what.
And Adam Silver also said they were going to explore an idea of a midseason tournament to, I guess, decide playoff seating or whatever it may be. A cup.
A cup. I don that means so here's my stay woke I think Adam Silver is a smart good commissioner but I think the reason why everyone loves him is because he will just listen to whatever stupid high idea that Twitter has and then publicly say we're going to discuss it because guess what every time they talk about shortening a season and people freak out and Greeny has fallen for the bait here.

He like,

he had a full freak out.

You just have to remember if they shorten the season,

all the players are going to get paid less.

So there's no way they're ever going to shorten the season and all the

owners are going to make less money.

So it's never going to get shortened.

But Adam Silver is a genius because he just takes like,

he just basically goes on NBA Reddit, reads the most upvoted idea for how to fix the nba and then says we're going to discuss it uh in this offseason and maybe we'll make some changes so he's basically he's trying to do what they did in the epl or like english soccer i don't i don't understand what's going on with all the trophies and cups it's very tough system to understand but i know that there are like three of them that are happening simultaneously so he's trying to muddy the waters here a little bit in the u.s and i think that you're right about him listening to too many ideas but with with greenie greenie should greenie should be happy that silver's listening to dumb ass ideas from random corners of the sports universe because at some point he's going to listen to one of mike greenberg's own dumb rules true like he's basically adam silver's sending up the bat sign for greenie being like greenie let's get fucking weird with it you want to throw some weird rules at me tell me that we're going to raise the rims to 11 and a half feet during november and then bring them back down like let's get weird greenie and i'll discuss it all that shit's gonna happen though they're gonna i guarantee you in the next few years adam silver is gonna talk about moving the three-point line getting a four-pointer uh getting rid of like you know intentional fouls making technicals different all these things if you have a dumb idea and you get enough traction on twitter adam silver will announce that they are going to discuss it just to appease everyone and everyone says adam silver is the true commissioner of the people he's open to all these ideas he embraced gambling first adam silver gets credit for embracing gambling first but that is the most obvious thing to do in the whole world so as much as i want to say good job by you adam silver i'm also like yeah no shit everyone should embrace gambling adam silver is just smart to say it out loud first he shouldn't get credit for basically a baseline of intelligence that gambling will make people watch more yeah it's easy stuff to do if you're commissioned i think that's what most people under the age of 40 would have said like day one on the job right. Right.
So, yeah, maybe we can get them to embrace one of our dumb shit ideas, like letting players score for whichever team they feel like during the middle of a game. Points for best own of a Twitter troll.
Kevin Durant now becomes even more of a Supermax guy. Best governor of a Twitter troll.
Oh, yeah, governor. Sorry, governor.
Okay, last up before we get to license to jill wayne rooney had a sick goal wasn't that was talking soccer yeah that was talking soccer it was a sick it was a screamer it was it was what's the difference between a screamer and a howler depends where you're I guess, yeah. I think that's like a northern England, southern England.
I don't know. We'll just say that.
Okay. Catholic, Protestant thing.
I think it was a screamer. Wayne Rooney absolutely drilled the shit out of them.
That's like his third goal from beyond midfield. Breaking moves.
Breaking moves from Hank. This is actually from our good friend, Uncle Chaps.
He just informed me. So this week he posted a video of his daughter playing defense.
She's like a little, his younger daughter. It went viral.
It was all over the place. They talked about it on The Jump.
They talked about it on all sorts of news stations. And he just told me that tomorrow, today, for the people listening to this on Friday, she's going to be on Good Morning America.
Whoa. So good for our friend Chaps, good for McCartney.
It's cool to see people from our company when they go viral and hit the mainstream. That video is so fucking funny, and she's Patrick Beverly in Kevin Durant's head.
She just went so, so hard on the defensive end. And it was the perfect time because nothing else was going on, so they had a a full segment on the jump with scotty pippen breaking down her defense which is i mean that's something that'll be cool for the rest of her life didn't um didn't who uh gobert said go ahead and just give my defensive player award to her to chap's daughter so mccartney mcneely is the official uh winner of the 2019 nba defensive of the Year Award.
I like it. America's back.
She got invited to the Spurs and the Bulls camp. Jeez.
This is awesome. This is what's so cool about having a kid is that you can put them to work just creating content for you online.
She is. She's a content factory for chaps.
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That sounds like something that they would say in the course of a Bubba Sparks song. Yeah, Booyah Bass sounds like something you could get really high off of, too.
Yeah. Okay, let's finish up with our intern, Chili Football.
Okay, it's that time of the week it is licensed to jill our intern jilly football is here she has worked on her hashtag game hashtag josh and we didn't see you all last week but you've been killing it on twitter thank you you've been sheeshing it up a lot too do you have a drinking problem

i played the fifth okay all right so that means yes um let's start how we always start license to jill with what you were not mad but disappointed in uh in this last week's content okay boys the dramatic pauses kill me. I know.
I'm not mad, but this one I'm a little disappointed. Can I say in myself? Yeah, sure.
I tweeted, and I'm still new to it, but I tweeted about the eggplant emoji oh that i found out this last week yeah what it meant yeah oh yeah so i i didn't think i didn't see it coming all the don't with the mentions yeah okay so um and i'll probably get more but no no don't send eggplants to Jilly. Did you get a lot of them?

Well, I did, but first I had to ask a guy in a bar at the airport what it was, because

I couldn't see it.

It was so little.

Okay.

And what did he say?

He said, that's an eggplant.

And I said, okay.

And then he kind of turned a little red.

So then I, when I got to my, I asked my son and he explained it. Okay.
So here's some other ones to watch out for. The banana, obviously.
The banana can mean similar thing. The peach just means butt.
Yeah. It means like big old dump.
The three water drops. You probably want to avoid that.
Or just one water drop. Yeah.
You're kidding. Yeah.
When you get wet. No, no, no.
Ejaculation. maybe if you're watching basketball and someone's shooting a three well you can use it but otherwise avoid it that's what that means yeah so you don't want to get wet also it doesn't mean raining no it does not mean raining use the umbrella if you want to do the rain yeah or but that can still be like oh you better bring your umbrella that's the dicey um don't use the i one, the okay sign, because that means that you're a white supremacist.
Yeah. And you can't go to any Cubs games.
No. So you'll be banned for life from Wrigley.
Correct. Just be careful with that one.
Oh, my God. Yeah, there's a lot of rules.
You have so much to learn. A lot of rules.
So when you tweeted the eggplant, were you surprised with how many eggplants you got back that maybe had water drops on them? I don't think I noticed that. Okay.
Good. Good.
Good. Okay.
Good. So did we determine what the Jilly Beans emoji was? Are we going with the grapes? I think I like that.
The grapes are good. Because it's also the sheesh.
Yeah, the grapes. Jilly Beans assemble.
Works for me. All right.
So when Jilly Beans is going after someone, the Jilly Beans need to just tweet out the grapes right in their mentions. We need to get you an instagram by the way yeah we need to get you on the gram i would like to see some jilly bean instagram stories stir straps from julia oh big time all right so what's the other thing that you were not mad but disappointed in in your show the other day and i you know they they run together sometimes um it's all one song yes it is.
Well, I was disappointed in, and not mad, obviously, but disappointed with the guy you interviewed who was 6'4 and dunked in eighth grade. Oh, Mark Titus, our good friend.
Okay, well, what happened to him? Why didn't he go to the NBA? I mean, did he get lazy? Well, okay, I have more for you. He stopped growing.
He was also part of the greatest AAU team ever, which you would know if you ever met him because he tells you right away. Okay.
So, yeah, he has friends, Mike Conley, Greg Oden. Who else was on that team? I think that's it.
No, there's a couple more. It's still a good team.
It's a very good team. And Mark Titus.
And Mark Titus. And Mark Titus.
He's a guy that if he tweets the droplet sign, it just means he's in the gym. Yeah.
That's what that means. Oh, okay.
So you're not mad but disappointed that Mark Titus never amounted to anything? Yeah, I thought maybe he got lazy. Fair.
You know, he just... Just became a podcast.
Yeah. Like everyone else.
He wrote a book and thought he was, like, the best. the best well what he did and this is very smart of him he realized that he uh it would be easier for him to just be a bench player and make fun of himself for never getting in games than it would be to actually work hard enough to get into the games right and so he made a career out of that which i mean credit to if you can make a career out of admitting your laziness that's good stuff it's the ultimate like i'm not gonna try I'm never going to give 100% effort because if I fail, then I'm a failure.
But if I always give 75% effort and I fail, it's like, wow, I was a joke. I wasn't really trying.
And if you can make fun of yourself for being so bad at what you really want to do deep down inside, then there's also a market for that, too. Right.
Exactly. So that's kind of where he landed.
All right. I appreciate you.
Good. That was good not mad to put disappointed.
I didn't know the story. Yeah.
Now I know it. There's the story.
All right. You have some license to jail for us.
We'll wrap up the show with that. Okay.
Lay it on us. If you can unlock your phone.
I know there is that. Yeah.
Hello, my beautiful angel Jillybean and handsome dad cat.

Oh.

What do you find most attractive in men?

And okay, how do you get to it?

Okay.

You got to unlock your phone.

Then swipe.

That's why I made the joke about unlocking the phone and you just like cruise right by it.

I just cruise right by it.

Yep.

There you go.

Yep.

Okay.

I'm so sorry. I'm learning.
I'm me nervous, maybe. No.
Okay. Okay.
I think you scrolled past it, maybe. This is...
Oh, there you go. No, I must have scrolled.
There you go. Right there, right there.
No, no, no. No.
Sorry, everybody. We need to get you a bigger font on that phone.
We need to get you like with the one where you have two words per line.

Are you at the point where you have the house line with the huge, huge dials? Like the numbers?

Okay, no, you don't?

I actually like those phones.

We got that.

My grandmother, like right before she died, we got that.

I was like the sign.

I hope I'm not going to write before I die.

I hope I'm not dying.

No, I'm not saying that.

No, no, no. You're not.
You're healthy. Your shoulder is as healthy as could be.
It is. Very healthy.
You're'm not going to write before I die. I hope I'm not dying.
No, I'm not saying that. No, no, no.

You're not.

You're healthy.

Your shoulder is healthy as could be.

It is.

Very healthy.

You're stronger than you look.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

What do you find most attractive in men, and how do men today compare to when you were

Big Cat and PFT's age?

Ooh.

Good question.

Well, what do I find most attractive in men?

It's always been the same.

Yep.

The smile.

Oh.

Always.

And that's true.

You know, I like a little, you know, I like a little rugged good looks like Paul Newman.

Yeah.

I like the little stubble.

Yeah, Paul Newman.

Very relatable.

I like the beard.

Yeah.

All that.

I love it.

You like the lemonade guy?

Okay.

No, the Oreos guy. Oh, the Oreos guy? Yeah.
Okay. On TV? Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. What else? Cool Hand Luke, right? What about height? And weight.
I like someone taller than me. Taller than you.
That's not hard. That's not hard.
We're done. We're done with that answer.
Okay. You know, height has never been a big thing.
Okay. Weight's never been a big thing.
Eggplants matter? It's, you know. Would you rather have an eggplant or a banana? Are you happy to see me or is there a banana in your pocket? Oh, man.
Well, it used to be banana, but now I'm kind of leaning towards the eggplant. Okay.
Got it. Got it.
Noted. And what were guys like back in the day yeah were they is there any truth to the fact that back in the day was you know guys had more shit to them they were more you know rugged they were more piss and vinegar piss and vinegar nowadays it's uh you know guys are all coddled these soft hands never worked a day in their life that's true however unless they were an athlete a real athlete never, they were like soft.
Yeah. Okay.
That's true. I never liked real soft men.
So more, more guys have become in better shape. Correct.
Than they were back in the day. Yeah.
Absolutely. That's wild.
We were born through decades too late. Yeah.
A little whoa. Like think about 30 years ago, there just like weren't gyms.
Yeah. Whoa.
That's a big whoa. That's true.
Yeah. There was no Planet Fitness or anything like that.
No, we had Jack LaLanne. Yep.
Of course. Teddy Atlas.
Ken Baysdow? Don't know him. John Baysdow.
John Baysdow. My bad.
He had AIDS. We did.
Big Magic Johnson. What did he ever do? That was just an urban legend, I think.
But I'm going to run with it. Yeah.
Okay, next one. Okay.
Hey, hey Jilly I've got seven siblings and three cousins I'm the fourth oldest of the 11 of us and I live the furthest away from my grandma how can I move up in the grandchild power rankings and get past the little shits that have just gotten they've just gotten by by being cute oh yeah in and take care of grandma. Do you think that does it? Absolutely.
I'm not a grandma, so I don't know. Would you say you can go up and down the rankings? Myself, I always was the bottom of the rankings for my grandparents.
I knew it. I knew where I stood.
I was always the, like, you know, hey, he's a blonde or who the fuck cares about him?

Yeah.

Okay, so you can move up.

Of course you can.

You have to really try hard.

That's the problem.

You know, it depends on grandma.

Okay.

What about this?

If you just have a weekly standing phone date with your grandma.

That's good.

That way you can say, like, oh, Saturday mornings, that's my phone date with grandma. That becomes like something that she gets really into.
And she will love you and you will move right to the top of the pile. Okay.
So all these kids not to put you on the hot seat here, though you have five children. I do.
You definitely have them ranked, right? Oh, no. Oh, come on.
You there's one that you like more than everyone else and they all know who they think it is but i will never say okay but we know who it is right do you yeah it's christina christina absolutely top of the pop top of the pop but you definitely have moments where it's like okay this kid is now my now my favorite. Yeah.
Standing out head and shoulders above the rest.

It depends on what they do for mom.

Yeah.

Okay.

There you go.

Mom can be bought.

Absolutely mom can be bought.

What would you do if one of them had like a really good week in terms of how you and that kid got along?

They did something to distinguish themselves.

Would you be cognizant of the fact that you're giving that child a lot of attention and then try to make up for it by lavishing praise on the other four, just like overdoing it on them? Nah. Or would you do like an hour long special with Kirk Herbstreet revealing the rankings? Absolutely.
I would absolutely do that. Georgia, number one.
Yeah. There we go.
All right. Next one.
Okay. We already did that one.

Did I listen to Monday's show?

If so, what life advice would you have for someone in their early 20s?

And what did you think of the guys' advice they gave?

I did listen to it, but I don't remember everything.

That's very powerful advice.

Wow, we really made an impact on you. Excuse me.
I'm old. I forget what happened yesterday.
True. But I can't remember what you said.
That's fine. That's fine.
Okay, next question. Next question.
That was perfectly answered. Would you ever take a gravity bong rip with the boys? Would you? Do you know what that is? You've smoked weed.
You burn. She lived in San Francisco.
You've burned. Yes.
She lived in Ashbury. She definitely burned.
I didn't live there, but I've been there. Sure, let's do it.
Let's go. Do you know what a gravity bong is? No i'm i'm willing to do it let's go when you get a big like think uh a big uh water pulling springs you know water jug cut it in half and then you have you have it you submerge it into a cooler or a sink and you basically lift it up while you're pulling all the smoke because you you get the smoke on the top.
And then you hit it and it fucks you up. Real bad.
In? Still in. Yeah, I'm in.
Still in. Okay, well that.
Let's do it. For everyone listening at home, I know that we promised some things that we never deliver.
I guarantee you by the end of the summer, we will all hit a gravity bong. Absolutely.
Jilly football's gravity bong. Fuck.
You're going to have to make it.

I'm looking forward to it.

We'll give you directions and you can make it.

I can make it?

Yes, you can make the gravity bong.

You have to make it.

It's not something that is sold.

Okay.

We'll get you so high.

Yeah.

You're going to be so fucking high.

Okay.

Saw you shishing it up last weekend.

What's one time when the shish got the best of you kid number three kid number five oh yeah that's a good answer that's a good answer all right let's do one more could you beat your darling jake in a fight in your prime hell yes yeah so pm PMT Sports Biz Jake versus Jilly Football in her prime. You seem like you were scrappy.
You play any sports? Only intramurals. Okay.
Would you pull hair? Yeah. Ankle biter.
World star. We should actually have them fight.
You know. We should have them fight.
Does he have a. I have Rough and Rowdy.
Yeah. Ooh.
I could take him down. That shoulder, we'd have to make sure it's 100%.
Because I feel like it could have popped out at any moment. Ooh.
Yeah. All right.
License to Jill. Jilly Football.
Thank you. Keep tweeting.
Thank you. You're the best.
We appreciate it. You guys are the best.
Happy July 4th. We won't see you for July 4th.

But we will see you the week after.

You have the week off.

Go enjoy New York.

I would like you to participate.

After the week of July 4th,

we're going to do a live stream for the Home Run Derby

because if Christian Yelich wins,

PFT and I have to eat each other's asses.

So I'd like you to participate with that. Not the ass-eating part,

but the watching the Home Run Derby part. The commentating..
Not the ass-eating part, but the watching the home run during the part.

The watching, the commentating.

And watching the ass-eating part.

No, no, no, no.

Yeah, you can watch if you want to.

Whatever.

I'm not going to tell you not to do something you want to do.

You're a grown woman.

Yeah.

But you don't have to.

We already found out you're an eggplant woman, so.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I am now.

I'm more like an acorn, but whatever.

This is peach to peach.

Yeah.

All right.

Chili Football, thank you. All right.
Thanks, guys. Love you guys.
Talking away. I don't know what to say.
I'd say it anyway. Today is my day to find you shining away.

I'll be coming for your lover, Kate.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take me.

Take on me.

I'll be gone. Take on me.
I'll be gone. Take on me.
So needless to say. I want to say it.
But I'm being stumbling away. Slowly learning my mind is okay.
Say after me. Take me.
Take me. Take me.
Take me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me