Zac Efron + RJ Hampton, The Newest New Zealand Breaker

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We're updating you. The Bruins ended up winning.
So that is the news in hockey. We have, because it's a back-to-back show days, we don't have a ton of new news, but we do have the, well, we have two pieces of news.
We have R.J. Hampton.
Let's start there. We have R.J.
Hampton, five-star recruit, deciding between, and we alluded to this on yesterday's show, deciding between Kansas, Duke, I think Kentucky, I think Memphis was in the mix, and maybe Texas Tech. He says, fuck all that college stuff.
I'm going to the New Zealand Breakers. The New Zealand Breakers by who owns them? Oh, yeah.
We do. That's right, us.
We own the New Zealand Breakers. i think it's safe to say that we cucked the shit out of coach cal coach k and bill self on one fellow swoop we made a damn strong offer big cat a damn strong offer and so strong pft so strong that he signed actually 30 days ago and we didn't even know exactly yeah that's that's right i thought there was going to be a longer negotiation period but he was like yeah that's that's more than a fair offer i dare we say that the uh the landscape of amateur athletics in the united states shifted by the winds of pardon my take i think that it's probably right about time that we should start having that conversation well i'm happy you brought that up because jeff goodman did a little did a little uh debbie downer turd in the punch bowl tweet where he was like uh good for him for deciding to go to new zealand and make money and forego his amateur status but outside of a few nba execs this won't help his brand now first of all i think only he cares about nba execs because he wants his his literal goal is to just be in the nba he said he does not care about being a college athlete and two guess what jeff goodman his brand is going to be fine because we're going to be the number one rj hampton podcast on planet earth i think you're forgetting something big cat and that's only three out of 30 nba execs have the internet so a lot of them won't be able to watch his highlights and stay posted on what he's up to.

Also, hey, was it John Goodman?

I'm really looking forward to your series on HBO coming out soon.

That looks awesome.

But have you ever watched a little movie trilogy called The Lord of the Rings?

That was in New Zealand.

People seem to pay attention to that.

So it looks like checkmate.

Also, just think about like, I mean, it's ridiculous. I think you could make that argument 20 years ago.
But now look at all the international stars that are in the NBA. Luka Doncic.
You can tell me that Luka Doncic was like a household name leading up to draft, but that's just false. People who are tuned into basketball definitely knew who he was.
But if you ask the casual fan, a lot of them didn't know he was and he becomes the best rookie in the class. And it's like that, that just kind of happened in terms of like visibility and branding.
He got everyone, everyone in the NBA circles knew who he was. That's all that really matters.
And the branding comes after. So good job, RJ Hampton way to stick it to the man.
And we have him on the show. Yeah, great job, R.J.
And it's not like NBA executives, well, maybe they do. Maybe they're affected by a very selective short-term memory loss.
They've been in tune with this kid for the last three years. Actually, you know what? Recruiting, NBA scouting probably starts in sixth grade by now.
So they have been paying attention to this kid for a long time. They're not going to forget about him because he's actually playing in the future.
He's traveling to the future to play in New Zealand. So I think he'll be just fine.
I'm very happy with the strategy and the package that we were able to offer him in terms of compensation, even though he is taking a pay cut going to New Zealand instead of Duke. But that's something we could offer him a little bit more off the court than Duke could.
So I'm very happy. There's one thing that I'm worried about, though.
What? I get carried away with stuff. You know that about me.
So when I got a little taste of breaking news, I took that a little bit. Some would say a little bit overboard.
Some would say not far enough overboard, even though I have an account devoted to my dog. Yeah, you're talking about the account you created with your dog where you tweet out fake news all the time and then delete it when it's wrong? Some would say that that's taking overboard.
I would disagree, but I'm worried that I'm going to take this overboard and just make a bunch of offers to a lot of people to come play for my team that i really have no decision making powers over so i mean ft yeah listen we're already one step ahead of you because hank and i had a discussion today and we are going to hit the aau circuit and hit it hard we're going to get new zealand breakers jumpsuits we're going to sit next to coach k we're just going to show every event and be like, hey, have you thought about New Zealand? And just make this a fucking brawl in the streets for five-star recruits. I'm glad that you guys are on the exact same wavelength because I was about to unveil a marketing plan that's very similar to that.
Obviously, the AAU circuit, we need to hit that hard. We need to make New Zealand the destination, the only destination For middle school high school Athletes to go to also let's make a Couple more splashes let's let's let's Put some offers out there I know there was That rumor about Mello earlier this week To the breakers we need we need Mello Ball yeah Mello Ball We need let's let's make hoodie Mello an offer and just create A custom jersey only for him that has a hoodie on the back of it.
I like that. So, Hoodie Mello, you have the invitation.
I'd like to get – I mean, fuck it. Let's invite, like, Skip Bayless down there.
Skip Bayless, if you want to improve on your 1.4 points per game, there's one place that will have you, and that's New Zealand. Let's make an offer to the otter from the San Diego Zoo that can dunk.
Chonk. Yeah, the chonk little otter.
Lochi coming. Can't get hotter.
Let's really go overboard with it until we realize that we've really done something bad. Until we face repercussions.
But until that point, I'm all in on this recruitment stuff. Yeah.
I love it. I think we're going to be the best recruiters in the world.
I mean, we kind of of already are because we got five-star recruit just without even knowing it like i said he signed 30 days ago so we didn't even we didn't lose any sleep recruiting rj hampton that's how good we are at recruiting um but yeah i'm all in on getting dirty with the recruiting we the mellow thing that you brought up i don't want to give away all the rj hampton interview but just tune in because there's actually a very good explanation for why carmelo anthony to the new zealand breakers became a real rumor and that was uh told by our co-owner matt walsh uh who was also in the room when we talked to rj but either way huge day for us we got we got our guy uh we're the best recruiters Hey, Coach Cal and Kay, say hello to the bad guy. Yeah.

You're in for a word or hurt man this no recruits are safe this is this is a change yes and i can't wait for us to go on kentucky sports radio next week june 6th anyone who wants to tune in and we're just gonna fucking just do a whole song and dance about how we're better recruiters than Cal. We didn't know what our angle would be to be on Kentucky Sports Radio this year.
We love doing it every single year, but now our angle just fell in our lap with R.J. Hampton.
It got handed to us, and what we need to do is we need to get framed R.J. Hampton jerseys and lean them against the wall behind us for every interview that we do to show how great we are.
In the saran wrap. Okay.
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The Lakers are a dumpster fire. More so than we even imagined.
There was a huge story that dropped on Tuesday morning. Hilarious story.
I loved it mostly because no single person was safe. He went after everyone, and it was good reporting, but it was Rob Palenka telling stories about kobe bryant having uh dinners with ghost

heath ledger magic johnson being like a psycho where it's magic and irvin and irvin's an asshole

genie bus thinking genie bus is like your your crazy aunt that gets way too into holistic shit

where she she keeps thinking that it's fate everything is fate so it's like everything

is fate we'll figure it out uh lebron maverick carter uh or sorry rich paul doing the oh i didn't know you were here and interrupting a meeting or a lunch with maverick carter and adam silver to bitch about luke walton luke walton basically being like the sympathetic figure in all this the whole thing was a mess what was your favorite part i mean that lunch was pretty awesome the the oops oh my god this is such a coincidence that i'm having lunch right next to my business partner who's having lunch with adam silver might as well just go talk to him and by the way what does he think that adam silver is going to do what's adam silver's reaction to like uh an associate of one of the star players complaining about his coach like is adam silver like he's gone good as gone yes i got him yeah maybe it was just tony dungy too you never know in those circumstances what this tells me is that this is a classic like rats on a sinking ship scenario with the lakers because you're right nobody was spared everybody got like a little taste of some vengeance from somebody else so everyone inside that front office is talking and it's yeah it's rats on a ship except they're not throwing other rats overboard they're just throwing them under buses that are driving by on the top of the ocean going next next door um i i like the lunchtime story and i was obviously a big fan of rob palenka setting up a meeting with a guy that had been dead for at least six months. Ghost Heath Ledger.
Ghost Heath Ledger.

Now, there are a couple theories that I have about that.

One is this is a classic strategy for anybody that's ever been in sales,

and you have to meet an end-of-the-month quota for how many meetings you set.

So you just go in, like you put fake names in there,

you like put your buddy's name, and you're like, oh, yeah, I scheduled a meeting.

I had a sales meeting with this guy.

He's like, oh, yeah, I set up a meeting on the last day of the month with Heath Ledger, River Phoenix, and Paul Walker. So I'm going to need that bonus.
They're also – I wouldn't put it past Kobe to actually have a meeting with a ghost to figure out how locked in he is. We're laughing at Rob Palenka right now, but Rob Palenka might be telling the truth.
He's just leaving out the part that it was a ghost and not actually heath ledger yeah i think kobe can talk to dead people i'm not disputing that part of it maybe a more likely theory is that rob palenka just set up a meeting with jack nicholson it was like they play the joker they're the same person might as well talk to this guy they're also not to make light of mental health which i never would do, but the fact that they had a documented stat about the panic attacks that happened was kind of ridiculous. What is going on here where they're like, yeah, four people had panic attacks because of Magic Johnson and how mean he is.
It's like, Jesus Christ, what is going on? And the only person actually who kind of comes out clean here is lebron because lebron

huh let's rich paul and maverick carter do yeah interesting that we have all these inside sources oh another just great one little tidbit the fact that they let i didn't even realize this happened when it was happening because i'm i'm not like paying attention to lakers day to day but they had contavious caldwell Pope playing during his, while he was in jail. So he, he had to go back to jail for 25 days because he had a DUI and he broke his parole and he is a clutch sports guy.
So this was before they got LeBron, they were courting LeBron and he would literally leave jail, play in the home games, go back to jail and miss the away games. And they're like, what other fucking team would do this? Oh, yeah, they were trying to get LeBron James, so they're going to do whatever they can for clutch sports clients.
Yeah. I have a small problem with everybody kind of like going after Palenka for lying to the rock because there was that video that came out during the Lakers' genius talks, which is apparently a normal thing that they do where they just have successful people talk to the team.
And so Palenka was telling the story in front of the rock. I don't have a problem with that, like bringing the rock into it because everybody lies to the rock when you're around the rock.
Right. He is such an alpha that you have to lie.
You have to make up stories. Everybody turns into Billy Hamilton when they're in front of The Rock.
That's just how it goes. Yes.
I actually, that's on my hot seat. So why don't we just segue there? Because I have The Rock on my hot seat.
Hank, why don't you start? And then I'll tease The Rock. Why don't you start? No, I'm going to tease The Rock.
I teased it. It's a good segue.
You just ruined a good segue. It's a tease.
The Rock is on my hot seat. Tune in later for The Rock.
On the the hot seat my hot seat is the domino's tracker okay so if you guys ever ordered a pizza online on domino's and has the tracker of like your food's getting ready it's in the oven it's out for delivery yep it's at your front door yep some big jay journalist independent journalist went in did some research and was like stalking would put in an order and would follow the restaurant follow the driver and make sure that the tracker was up to date no way and it's not no he he foiled it he foiled dominoes wait i can't believe in anything was that the noid did the noid do this the noid are you not familiar with the noid you got you gotta be kidding me you guys aren't familiar with annoyed i'm not familiar with annoyed the noid was domino's mascot back in the 80s and 90s and you had to avoid them if you wanted to get your pizza it was a big thing i'm gonna look up the noid i'm sure i i'm sure i remember the noid but i've there's only so many things that your brain can hold on to and i think the noid got the cut a while ago yeah the noid looked oh yeah he looked like annoyed he looked like a rabbit with botulism yeah he looked almost like stretch armstrong combined with a rabbit yeah so this dude this dude put the order in the restaurant followed it while it was going on in the restaurant and then followed the driver to his house so not creepy at at all. No.
He got to the bottom of it. Turns out it was false.
And it's a tough day to be Domino's. It's about ethics in pizza delivery, Hank.
It's not creepy at all. It's not creepy.
All right, what's your cool throne? My cool throne is LeBron James Jr., his Instagram game. Everyone knows when you join Instagram, like he had that one day, that initial splash that everyone gets.
His dad posted a picture of him, got him some followers. He followed it up the next day.
I thought the video was fake, but everyone seems to tell me that it's real. Of him, I don't know if he was doing an impression.
No one's been able to really find what the impression was of, if it was of anything. But he was kind of talking crazy, talking a little reckless for a 14-year-old.
Got people going, and it just boosts his engagement, got him more followers. And it's just a good two-day stretch for LeBron James Jr.
on Instagram. Yeah.
So was that not – it wasn't him, right? Or it was, but it was fake? Everyone that I've talked to said it's real. I thought when I initially saw it and heard it, it was Nate who blogged it.
Okay. He said he did like three hours of research, said it was real.
Good source. Okay.
Is that it? And then everyone on the internet, I typed in LeBron James Jr. fake, and there wasn't any proof that it was fake.
You've done your research. That's good.
I'm going to agree with you. It was real.
I'm going to LexisNexis this real quick and get to the bottom of it, but that sounds, I mean, that's good enough for me. So wait, when you say that he was talking all kinds of reckless, what was he saying? He was doing like an impression, talking about these hoes ain't loyal.
Like these like. It was weird.
It was for, you know, talking reckless for a 14 year old. You know, that's something, you know, dad to dad.
He's probably gonna have to have a sit down with him. Oh yeah.
Hey. Big time.
Bronnie Jr. He'd be like, here, pull up a glass of vino.
I don't want people to judge you off my name, but also like you have my name. So try not to be so reckless online.
Yeah. Right.
Yeah. Your name.
Keep your name out of my mouth. Right.
your name and my name but also like you have my name so try not to be so reckless online yeah right yeah your name keep your name out of my mouth right your name and my name they're the same so you need to make sure your name is better than my name that's right yeah go leave your name better than i found it yes exactly but it is great you know you got to deal with your dad like talking you know getting mad at little bit, but it's great for followers, great for engagement. Yeah.
I mean, this is also like if you give a 14-year-old who is already kind of weirdly a celebrity in his own right an Instagram, it's going to probably happen like this. This is how it goes down.
Yep. So I really know like what else it's I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure one of MJ's sons had a dick pic that he deleted I think Marcus Jordan put out a dick pic by accident like back in the day that shit happens when you have when you're a famous son like a fail son is a real thing oh for a thing for a reason yeah yeah what's the saying it's like the first one builds it the second one creates it maintains it the third one destroys it yes so i can't wait for bronny the third bronny the third is going to be terrible at basketball uh all right pft what do you got uh so my hot seat is faces of death because rex chapman's famous blocker charge twitter account got suspended today uh word on the street is that it was because he posted a video of a guy on a motorcycle getting into an accident and dying the guy actually died in it so uh twitter twitter looks down on snuff films you can you know all the nazis that you want on there but the second that you show an accident of a guy dying boom suspended so uh it was it was inevitable that this would happen to old rex and i mean i'd be lying if i said that there wasn't like a little bit of a market opportunity that i saw because nobody else is posting blocker charge true uh so we could just take over that that could be our brand we could do check this out ready for this one it's a little hot in the streets blocker charge and it's a picture of that bottleneck on mount everest oh that's good how about blocker charge and it's a picture of rex chapman's suspended twitter account it's been done i looked into that that was that was my first thought i was just thinking for everest because above 8 000 meters is that's the death zone so it's definitely a block because that's like the restricted area.
That's God's restricted area that high up on the mountain. Well, you know what the Mount Everest picture is starting to become? It's starting to become people posting it like, I will die on Kevin Whitehill.
I will die on thinking Kevin White's going to be a good player in the NFL. And it's just a picture of the Mount Everest of people that actually did die.
It's kind of a fun little Internet thing that we've done where we just take real death and make jokes about it. Yeah.
And also take a point where it's like, hey, this mountain that is like one of the last like untouched places by man now has a traffic jam. Cool.
This whole fucking society is trash. Let's all just like end it now.
That it reminds it reminds yeah it was it reminded me of that did you ever read that book into thin air it came out like 15 years ago i saw basically basically about this exact same thing where it's like everest has become so like such a commodity right now it's so easy to climb it if you have enough money you can pay for a guide um that you know it's starting to get bottlenecks and people are just like dying because they can't move because you can't your body can't exist above a certain altitude and so we learned our lesson for about 15 years and then we forgot it again yes that's nice um cool throng my okay uh my other hot seat is fiji because u.s rugby is going to win this weekend and win the entire Anyways, my cool throne is FIFA. FIFA is on the cool throne because you may have noticed a couple, maybe like a week ago, there was a big ticket snafu for the Women's World Cup where they were not seating people together.
So if you bought a group of tickets, if you bought like four tickets for you and your family, it turns out that they were just basically scattered all over the stadium. Like FIFA was trying to do what the NFL commercials for football as family really have and just have everybody sitting next to each other wearing different jerseys.
But people have complained and it's been a big black eye for FIFA. So they have assured us, and I will take FIFA's word for this, that they're looking into correcting the orders right now.
So if there's one organization out there that knows how to handle their shit, it's FIFA. This is like number 100 on their list right now of things to take care of right behind building stadiums that look like vaginas using slave labor.
So I think that as soon as they figure that one out, they'll figure out how to redistribute the tickets around the stadium. So I have full confidence in FIFA to turn this around yeah they've got their hands full they got to do they got to figure out how to air condition the desert for uh 2022 2022 yeah 2022 yeah it's a lot of btus it's gonna be a long time from now uh all right my hot seat i alluded to it the t's the rock i'm putting rock on the rock on my hot seat because I'm sick of him posting his cheat meals being like look how relatable this is guys every I don't know if you notice this but like every month rock will post a huge pancake or something and be like damn look at this cheat meal I'm about to devour being like everyone out there you know what it's like to eat like shit yeah rock we eat like shit every fucking day you're not cool because you do you eat a big pancake once every 30 months or 30 days and you can deadlift a thousand pounds and you spend your life in a fucking gym i don't like when he tries to do that it pisses me off okay yeah i mean the rock does have some pretty crazy cheat meals though he goes back and forth his posts are either him working out in like a really really sweaty cement walled gym a cheat meal or like a picture of his mom flying on his private jet talking about uh like what a great life he has that he can do this for his mom he's really big on that it's like keeping things in perspective i just i just don't like like when he's like oh yeah you guys know what it's like to have a cheat meal like this no rock i actually do not know what it's like to eat like shit while i have a six pack and be like don't worry tomorrow i'll still have a six pack so no i don't know what it's like what's crazy is that rock's cheat meals are so big that eating one of those would actually be a workout for me yes yeah i think I would burn more calories eating one of his like 500 bacon slice gravy cheesecake meals that he does than I would consume by eating it.
I don't know how the math works out on that, but I'm pretty confident in it. Stay woke.
I don't even think he eats it. Just saying.
I like that. Just throwing it out there.
He takes a picture of it. That's how The Rock makes everybody else in worse shape than him.
he's got everyone convinced that you have to have a giant cheat meal and so they all copy what he does to get his body but he just throws in the trash yeah um all right my cool throne brands because sports illustrated was bought by a company called authentic brands group i don't know anything about them but that's a fucking fire name it's just there's really good it tells you everything you need to know like what do they do brands how do they do it authentically yeah it's a group of them when you have a company that's that's basically called like real shit not fake then i'm like yeah no those guys have their act together yeah just like for a minute there you're like wait who bought them oh it Brands guys. That's right.
They'll keep this shit.

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Hunt it.

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Hunt it.

I do like how they're looking.

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I do like how they're looking into establishing a line of medical clinics.

Sports Illustrated branded medical clinics.

I like that.

Got to get that drip down from the Theranos stock.

People are all about the medical community now. Well, it's that.
And also, if you put sports on anything, guys are more likely to go see a doctor. So as of 50 years ago, there were dudes just walking around with tears in their abdominal wall until we started calling them sports hernias.
Right. Then every guy's like, oh, I got a sports hernia.
Got to go to the doctor, get that checked out for my sports injury. I mean, it's genius when you think about it.
They're like, who's been crushing it lately? Sports clips. Okay.
What about sports doctors? Boom. Remind me of it.
I had an idea a couple years ago about a sports funeral home. Yeah.
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That was fucked up.

Okay, we're here. we're in the van we're in la we're in socal we're with our friend zach efron in a van in a van down by the river but zach efron who needs no introduction but we'll introduce him anyway he's a heartthrob he's an actor i love that heartthrob'll introduce him anyway.
He's a heartthrob. He's an actor.
I love that heartthrob comes first. Thank you.
I really appreciate that. Well, he started as a heartthrob, so we'll start with that.
But before we get to all of that, you are also the most random and starstruck award-winning listener, a part of my take, that I have ever heard. And I think same with you, PFT.
When we heard that you actually listened to the show, I was like, are you fucking serious? So that doesn't happen often. So that's pretty cool.
I think it does happen more often. No, it doesn't.
It does not. Yeah, usually it's like...
Really? I don't know how to believe. It's like a backup offensive lineman.
Yeah. We'll be like, hey man, big fan.
I'm like, that's awesome. Right.
Okay, I mean, I see what you're... Triple A shortstop.
They're like, dude, I love the show.

We're glad that you're a listener. It's a compliment to you.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

You're an A-lister.

You guys keep it super real, and so that's why I like listening to you.

You keep one on to all the time.

Yeah, yeah.

So I just don't...

There's so much fake in the industry.

Like, the more...

The only thing that really we have left is the truth.

Yes.

The more people tell it, like, you guys do, and bring things out into the open, I just

think it's so much more fun.

It's a better world to live in to fucking confront shit and take it head on.

When you look at me right there, your eyes are sick.

Thanks, man.

Love it.

You too.

You got a very pretty hazel.

You think so?

Hazel green color.

Your eyes are fucking sick, bro.

How are my eyes?

I just see my own eyes. It's a trick.
How are my eyes? I just see my own eyes.

It's a trick. I'm trying to get you to see your own eyes

and you're like, man.

Yeah, you guys have beautiful eyes.

Just look at yourself. Yeah, exactly.

So we've hung out with Zach for a little bit

now. We did a burger taste test review to

go subscribe to his

new YouTube channel.

So we've spent some time with

you. We want to quickly do

the career arc. I know it might

bore some people. I spent some time with you.
We want to quickly do

the career arc. I know it might

bore some people. I'll be super

quick and I'll make it actually interesting. I'll tell you guys whatever you want to hear.

Started as a heartthrob.

Yes, definitely. For sure.

Was that a mind fuck?

You have no idea. It was

like...

Everyone just walked around being like, you're the hottest thing ever.

Basically, one day I walked out of a very cheap, well, I mean, an apartment, like, upstairs in the valley. And, like, there was a camera guy, a paparazzi.
And he just started taking pictures of me. And I was in my sandals walking across the street.
Were you on a casting couch? What is going on? No, I was on High School Musical. Okay.
Oh, yeah. It was choked that I did.
I filmed this TV movie and I was a little bit shy of it, so I didn't tell anyone. The night before it came out, one of my friends was like, hey, go on YouTube.
Go on the music charts. They went on iTunes and all the different music charts and my name was on them and i was like what the is going on right how long are you here i'm seven 17 fuck that's pretty crazy that's mine i think we're 18 maybe 18 or so no yes yes 17 and then after that from that day forward there were about two weeks where it was kind of interesting that there were dudes following you and then after that yeah it's it's interesting you're like hey man i'm feel kind of cool i can't deny there was that moment of like hey i'm famous or i mean there's that that feeling of self-satisfaction that fades so fast and you at least for me the most important thing from that point forward has been that i learned this lesson.
Just keep your head down, move forward. In this city, Hollywood's very, very hard.
It's hard to navigate as a teenager. I'm sure.
Growing up, you're surrounded by every chance to get out and take a shortcut. And that's why I liken it to sports and athletes, because when I meet and talk with athletes at the gym, like pro athletes.
Right. Like I'll be, you know, ah, geez.
A lot of the guys that did the combine came in and trained at the same gym I was at. I talk to them and I see a little bit of what I just call like that magic, that curiosity.
Yep. Do we have it? Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you guys. You have the magic? Hyper focused.
Fuck yeah, we have the magic. It's also in the way you guys talk.
Okay. You guys clearly care.
Damn. So did you get good at losing the tail? Like losing the paparazzi? Yeah, I'm just like laughing how many stories I can tell you.
Yeah. On and on.
This was right between. So Twitter wasn't really out yet.
Like and Instagram wasn't really out yet. So we're in the era of like in between.
between okay and people were starting to join Twitter and starting to join Instagram but I was kind of just not into it I don't like I don't like phones right I'm not really a phone guy I like I don't like I like you know you like to be you like to be outdoors chill chill I like to just chill yeah I like to just like I Yeah, I like to just like, I just like to chill.

I'm really low-key. You're seebes.

I very much learned how to act post

that movie. So then it was like rocket ship,

right? Yeah, it was a rocket ship to fame,

which I would say fame is not

something that

is something I

really cherish. I think the money

is important. Yes.
The money is

necessary because it helps you protect

yourself, those around you.

It helps you foster more

Thank you. really cherish i think the money is important yes the money is necessary because it helps you protect yourself uh those around you helps you foster more creative ideas to help things down the road and stuff like that but but fame in and of itself i never felt deserving of fame i felt performances deserve recognition when they're good and they couldn't be ripped apart when they're bad mine get ripped apart no matter what but i don't give a fuck i like to choose interesting different weird stuff it's kind of the only power we have yeah i don't think that anybody i don't agree with people who aspire to be famous i think that that leads people to all sorts of trouble it is fucked up if that's and unfortunately is just that people know you yeah exactly yeah unfortunately unfortunately a lot of la draws a lot of people that want to be known and for we even i admit it for a moment when you're young you have that moment when you think man wouldn't it be cool to be like famous and rich right and now i like having been a part of both of those things uh to whatever extent i have been um i think like the most important lesson is like what nipsey hustle says in his songs he's like he says first you get the first you get the money then you get the bitches then you get the respect okay then you get first you get the money then you get the respect then.
Then you get a pre-release of the Madden, new Madden. Then you make a difference.
Before everyone else. Then you tell the truth.
Think about rap music right now. Yeah.
Who are the guys that we love? I'm a big fan of Bone Thugs. Okay, well, Bone Thugs.
Okay, well, they did it. They were the original guys to do it.
They told the truth about what they were actually doing yeah so perspective is a whole nother interesting yes like my perspective on this town is completely different it's changed i know things about things that nobody should ever want to know about so what point in your career and and also might want to know right yeah by gross i meant like yeah your book yeah. I do really want to hear all those stories that you can't tell.
Yeah, what point in your career did you kind of not fall out of love of, like, the whole fame and everything, but kind of fall out of love out of it? You know what I mean? Like, hey, this is. Dude, the second it happened, man, it made me so vain.
Really? I was really like. You had that terrible haircut.
Yeah, remember that? Yeah, so that was a depressing time. Girls love that.
Yeah, they did. that yeah i thought it was try but really what it was is every day there would be cars lined up and down the street and i would just get out of my car and a caravan of them would follow so one day i just literally put a hat on like i sat i went and i met with leo dicaprio it was that was i don't even mind dropping that one i'm very proud if you can drop Leo, you drop Leo and I'm not even dropping, I'm picking him back up Leo's right here Leo gave me some advice he was like, look dude because I showed up at his house and he looked at the security and saw how many paparazzi he was like, I've never seen that many paparazzi this is is going to change.
And he was right. Eventually, I kept my head down.
I just didn't let it get to me. I started covering up more and finally I realized that the reason they were taking pictures is because I was giving them the photos.
And that was a part of me being vain, secretly, kind of attractively to attention. Then when I really didn't want it, all I had to do was just not do it.
Now I don't really dress up, and I got a premiere, I don't really give a fuck anymore. I reached a Matt Damon phase.
I feel like I'm almost to what you have. I like the hair, though, so what's the story with the hair? Art Alisakis from Everclear type thing.
I like it.

That's a good reference.

No, you are like,

this is very SoCal of you.

You're a SoCal boy through and through.

You are very SoCal.

Have you ever left

the little bubble

of Southern California?

No, I'm Central California.

Oh, sorry.

So north of Santa Barbara,

like Arroyo Grande,

San Luis Obispo.

How far away from here is that?

Three hours to drive the speed limit, three and a half half have you ever lived outside of the state of california uh what what so this is another question what insinuates live what what what's the time difference i'd say more than two months oh then i've lived in canada oh filming a movie yeah i've lived a lot of places if that's's two months, then I've lived in New York. An apartment? In New York.
Okay. Canada.
Georgia. Okay.
So you've been out there. But you are, but your vibe is in Cali.
Also, Europe. Europe.
Okay. A lot.
Europe, I'll stay. Europe, I stayed for four months.
Where? Ooh, man. We did a month on the Isle of Man.
What was that for? It was for a movie called Me and Orson Welles. I've seen that.
Actually, that one's actually a good film. Richard Linklater.
What about Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates? That's our boss. Dude, I really...
We love that movie. Did you? Yes.
One, because it's our boss. But two, I actually really liked it.
We did a ton of promotion for it. Anna Kendrick is the shit.
Okay. So let's bring that up.
Let's bring that up. What? The fact that Anna Kendrick followed and unfollowed me so fast.
She did? Yeah. Can you text her right now? And just be like, hey, what was up with that? She followed me on a Tuesday night and then unfollowed me by Wednesday at 8 a.m.
I didn. I didn't understand what.
Well, I talked about it. Yeah, because I was very starstruck.
I love Anna Kendrick. So just be like, hey, did you, hey, that guy, Big Cat, did you mean to unfollow him? It would be really helpful for me.
Yeah. Say, you're with me right now.

Oh, take a picture of him so that it...

Yeah.

Yeah.

She unfollowed me so fast, man.

It hurt so bad because I'm a huge Anna Kendrick fan.

All right.

I'm texting.

All right.

I'm with Big Cat.

Why did you unfollow him?

Hey, should I say, is everything cool with you guys? Yeah, is everything cool? She's the best. She really is.
She really is. So I love Mike and Dave Needs Wedding Dates, not only because it's Peter Churnan joint, but then we went to it and I was like, fuck yeah.
I've actually, you want to know this little fun fact?

Shout out to Peter Churnan.

Thank you for making some cool movies.

Yes, shout out to Peter Churnan.

All right, let's get back on track because the one thing I do like about you is you,

like we stepped in your house

and within like five seconds we were in a deep conversation.

So we've gone through the beginning of the career.

You're at a point now,

you just finished all the promo and everything for your new movie, Ted Bundy, Netflix. It was awesome.
But you also said after you are at a point now in your career where you will pick the things that only you want to do. How liberating is that? Does that feel awesome to be like, hey, I can just do what I want to do? Which is really the only power that you have as an actor is to say yes or no yes or no to a movie because i want to apply my self to movies that are good i want to make the best movies that you that men women all of us enjoy i i believe the key ingredients of those are like sincerity, love, honesty, also mixed in with fucking badass action and really cool, exciting visual effects, but there's got to be Keanu Reeves killing like 100 people.
I watched John Wick last night, actually. The voices are awesome.
The less your lead character talks, it's a great way to turn like Sly Stallone, you know, he doesn't talk that much. But when he does, it's a great way to turn like sliced alone you know he doesn't talk that much yeah right but when he does it means it's important yeah exactly i agree it means so what kind of movies are you trying to get into these days um i'm not trying to get into i kind of just wait until i meet with the director and we see eye to eye and go i usually when i meet a director the the first thing is, you're very different than I thought you would be.

And I go, thank you for saying that.

They go, no, I really mean that.

You're really different.

I thought you were going to be an asshole.

It's almost 10 for 10.

Right.

Because I just.

It's part of the territory that comes with being.

Very good looking.

No, I think with me at this certain time or being good looking. Yeahh rogan told you seth rogan told me straight up the first time i met him i was like oh seth and i was so nervous and i was at a party at the hollywood some god i was like 18 maybe and i saw seth rogan it's like my hero right seth is a good actor not only is he funny a good actor.
Right. Like, I love Seth Rogen.
Right. And I see Seth, he's my hero.
I just started acting, and I, like, walked up to him, and I was like, excuse me, at one of these parties, I didn't want to be there. I had to go do a red carpet.
I was just getting drunk by myself at the bar. Yeah.
And I'm just sitting, like, miserable. And I saw Sethh rogan pass and i was like shit and i took a shot and i remember i walked up and i was like excuse me and he didn't stop and i was like wait seth seth rogan and he turned around he looked at me and he was like oh hey man what's up zach how's it going right i was like yeah i was like hey and he goes oh hey and then turns and I was like, wait, wait, can I talk to you for a second, and he's like, oh, fuck, okay, yeah, man, what's up, what's going on, I'm like, I just want to tell you, I think you're fantastic, man, like, as a writer, as a producer, and as an actor, I think that you make things funny by your sincerity, and're a good actor and i appreciate that and thank you for keeping that alive in movies and then he literally there was like a 10 second pause and seth goes god damn it and i was like what he goes fuck it i just i fucking i just wanted to hate you you realize you fucking you represent literally everything right that i fucking hate and and now you're actually nice too like fuck that jesus god can you be an asshole you're supposed to be an asshole you can't do all those things and be nice fuck god damn it and i was like jesus uh uh and and i was like, I didn't know what was going on.
I was like, thank you for, I'm just like loving that he's saying that. Thank you for nothing.
I'm an asshole. Yeah.
That's a huge compliment. Is that weird though? Because I feel like you probably run into that a lot where people judge you before they meet you all the time.
Based on your characters. That's your life.
Yeah. Based on your characters.
It's basically the opposite way that people get to meet you guys. You meet you first with a sincere talk.
Right. Right.
True. And that's why I think you gravitate towards people because you get the authenticity.
I like to think that that authenticity is inside my performances because I'm really going to different places. And that's where my authenticity and my work goes.
Are you method? Not fully method. Well, I hope not.
You should have a serial killer fucking movie. Yeah, Daniel Day-Lewitt.
Going fully method can be, I'm not knocking actors who go fully method. It's just not practical.
I've done it for stuff before. I usually last like three days.
Like for Mike and Dave need wedding dates, you were like, God, I really need a date. No, that one I was method.
Okay. No, no, no, I'm kidding.
But you did talk about the recent movie, the Ted Bundy movie. I forget the full name.
Wicked and Evil and Vile. I watched it.
It was awesome. Shockingly Evil or Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile.
Okay, so you talked about having to meditate to get out of the Ted Bundy character. That's fucking deep, man.
That's deep. Not to get out of the character.
It's not like he clings onto you. But to shed the...
I'm sure it's pretty dark vibes to have to play a serial killer. The movie only portrays him as the world saw him.
So, and the way that others saw him. So he was seen as a likable guy.
Your normal everyday dude, which is how he was able to wow the world with committing so many murders we don't know, we still't know and rest in peace to his victims we made the movie in their honor and in their memory but he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes until the point where he fired his own he escaped jail twice was murdering people consistently the estimates be in the thousands. We don't know.
And the entire time, he's playing his own defense on a public trial on TV. It was the first time a camera was let inside an actual courtroom to film the trial.
It was a good movie good and at the end judge coward actually said that yeah to them you can see that real ted bundy sitting there and the guy says you know what you're you're you're a nice guy you seem like a bright young man i would have loved to have you practice under me but you chose a different path that's heartbreaking son you had every you know that really happened right every that was ted he was it was crazy so the moral of the story for me was to i didn't want to do what everybody wanted me to do for the last 10 to 12 years which is switch it up go dark instead i did every other thing i tried to like learn the game first so i like laid my board out and like set and I just practiced on different movies. I did a couple of independent films.
I only wanted to work with directors who knew what they were doing. So I could learn how to act.
And I learned about acting. I worked with Burr Steers on 17 again and we did another movie called Charlie St.
Cloud. I've seen it.
You have? You've seen all these. Awesome.
Cool. Thanks.
We own all of them on VHS, Bl-ray and DVD I love you guys and Laserdisc don't forget Laserdisc yeah don't forget the forgotten medium don't forget please get the DVD hard copies alright because the hard copies we get percentages don't stream do not stream no stream Netflix Netflix stream do stream much yeah give us one product that we should buy

zack efron subscribe to youtube yeah there you go subscribe zack efron we actually did a burger taste test with you we did we did and that's like epic thing to do it was probably the last one you'll ever have well it's also canceled it also i mean like you guys are always talking about burgers and what's the best burger.

We like food.

And food.

You guys, I love food too.

No, you're plant-based.

Yeah, but... But also, I mean, like, you guys are always talking about burgers and what's the best burger.
We like food.

And food.

You guys, I love food, too.

No, you're plant-based.

Yeah, but still, on food, I say plant-based, not vegan.

What is that?

What's the difference?

Vegan means I will never touch anything with an animal product.

But, like, I have rainbows on.

These are leather.

Oh. So you can wear.
But you ate a burger, so what does that mean like i'll have a piece of meat if i'm going to die or if i'm at a wednesday night sushi thing and haven't eaten i'll have fish and stuff like that i just don't eat heavy amounts of protein just because it's healthy and all that but how do you stay jacked do you know about intermittent fasting yeah i've tried it sounds awful no no no It sounds awful. No, it's the easiest thing in the world.
Explain to me. You just don't eat for longer in the morning and a little bit longer before bed.
Okay, so what's my hours? Okay, so you have 12 hours that you should not eat throughout the day. During your nighttime sleep cycle, say you have your dinner and your dinner ends at 7 PM.
You should not have anything in your body except water. I did this.
But then after that, you've got to do like a full day, a full day of fasting on like one day a week or once every two weeks. Oh, I missed that part.
I missed that part. What I would do is I'd fast, and then

on the eight hours I could eat, I'd go to pound town.

I'd eat everything.

Don't do that.

I had like 6,000 calories in like six hours.

And also,

on your cheat days,

if you guys

can make more of your

meals inside the

unit,

you say you guys get Thai food every night.

If you can make that

Thank you. If you can make more of your meals inside the unit, like you say you guys get Thai food every night.
If you can make that, start with something simple. If you can make one of your meals a day a salad, always one a day.
Or one every other day. You don't make friends a salad, Zach.
I know, dude. I fucking hate them too, dude.
God damn it. It's disgusting.
Who likes them? No one. Then you know what? You, your plant-based fruit.
No, I don what? Dude, honestly, I don't even like the taste. It's an acquired taste.
Do you think that fucking like... You gotta stay ripped.
Yeah, do you think beer tastes good? I love it now, but it was an acquired taste. Now I fucking...
I love a lot of things, but you have to try things for a little while. So how long is it going to take me to do this whole intermittent fasting thing and be shredded? How long to look like that? I don't know.
How many days? If you come and spend the summer out here in Cali, how about I could show you guys? What's more? You think you can be shredded in the summer? Yeah. Six-pack? In a summer of training? Uh-huh.
Yeah. Do you train at all? I train today.
Here's your palate. Yeah's more impressive, having a deep belly button or a six pack? Put your finger in this belly button.
Put your finger in that belly button. Oh, look at that.
He's putting his finger in the second number. That's bad.
That's how it's gone away. If he gives a come head Heather, you find it.
Wait, honest question. I can feel the bottom of my balls.
Honest question. Does that thing stop? No.
You literally tickled the bottom of my balls. Why is it wet? Well, it gets wet throughout the day.
Yeah, no, it does get wet throughout the day. It gets a little lint.
You know, I store stuff in there. Yeah, it gets a little wet.
What's the weirdest thing you pulled out of there? I could put probably a decent amount of change in there. I mean, honestly, the real answer is probably Zac Efron's finger.
Yeah, that's true. That's exactly the answer.
There it is. I heard a story about you, Zac.
We'll watch that later. I heard a story that you got a Barry Bonds home run ball from Charlie Sheen.
Ooh, I did. How did that work out? So basically my first publicist that I worked with out here, he's still a dear friend of mine, was Charlie Sheen's old publicist.
It's a full-time job. Charlie found out that I was a fan for my birthday one day.
He gave me a Barry Bonds autographed baseball.

Okay.

And he just gave it to me.

Right.

And I was like, I can't accept this.

Like, no way.

I can't accept it. And I refused to take it.

And then I was like, okay, I'm going to hang on to it.

And then I called everyone and was like, guys, it's been six months. I've got Barry Bonds baseball.
I think this is a legit gift. And then about six months later, I got a call from somebody saying like, do you still have that Barry Bonds autographed baseball? And it wasn't just anyone.
It was one that was hitting the bay. It was like like the 75th ball.
It was the record-breaking ball. This is no joke.
This ball's worth millions of dollars. I knew Charlie was going to want it back, so I kept it exactly where I put it.
Sure enough, one day he called and was like, hey man, I think I kind of want that back. I was like, I totally understand.
I totally get it, bro. I knew this game was coming.
I never took anything off it. I did tell a couple people that I owned it for a while.
And I did. I did for about a year and a half or so.
Yeah. But I have met Barry Bonds.
And this was, I think it was before I got that ball. And he signed a ball for me, too.
And I have a coffee mug with me and Barry Bonds on it. Like a picture of you guys? Yeah.
So you have a whole autograph collection, though. Oh, yeah.
I have my baseball autograph collection. It goes back super far.
That's awesome. Yeah.
I have, like, all the San Francisco Giants, Jeff Kent, like... Pablo Sandoval? Yeah, I have a Sandoval, for sure.
Tim Lincecum. Ooh, the freak.
I think we got got Lincecum Dylan and I waited for Lincecum Dylan is Zach's brother Dusty Baker? Do you have Dusty Baker's son? I want to hear a good story This is Dusty Baker for you Can I tell a story about Dusty Baker? Yeah you can Hopefully it doesn't end with him Just letting pitchers die and then pulling pitchers and just doing really fucked up shit and losing playoff games. No, this is actually a good thing.
Well, it shows a little about him. I was a kid, like, you know, I had no plans to be an actor.
I thought I was going to be a doctor. I was just trying to get good grades in school and do stuff like that.
I didn't know what I wanted to be. But I loved baseball.
And we would drive four and a half hours to sleep in our sleeping bags on my dad's friend's couch to catch doubleheaders. And if the Giants made it to the playoffs, we would drive down.
It was just me, my little brother, my dad. We would just go scalp tickets.
We wouldn it go in if it was any more than like 15 dollars right but we would get down early and we would get the foul balls and we'd have him sign the foul balls and i got a lot of the giants um so did you meet dusty baker i'm not yeah so i met dusty baker um i was i was waiting outside of uh like the spot where they all drive out Right, right. And there's a gaggle of other autograph collectors whom I've now come to see the other side of why.
Adult male autograph collectors are the weirdest people on the planet. Like a 40-year-old with a suitcase.
Yeah, it is. I see them all the time.
And they mean well. It is an awkward inner thing.
You know they're going to sell it or something. Right.
You know they don't like you. Right.
But I do like, as a kid, you do like the person. So Dusty Baker pulls out on his chopper, like a big chopper.
And he cruises by and he sees me. And he goes, excuse me.
Hey, you're Zac Efron. No, no.
Oh. I was like, excuse me.
I had bleached hair. Yeah.
I had bleached hair. I was like, excuse me.
Hey, Dusty. Excuse me, Dusty Baker.
Mr. Dusty Baker.
Can you come over? He's like, I have to go to church. I'll be back in one hour.
If you're here in one hour, I will sign you. I'll sign an autograph for you.
I was like, okay. I waited.
I into a bunch of other players. And then we're getting ready to leave.
We're the last kids waiting in the parking lot. The sun's going down in San Francisco.
It's just on the sitting sidewalk. It was very, like, in the movie mid-90s.
Right, right. Like, I'm out front.
Yeah. You know, and Dusty Baker came back, and he said he liked my blonde hair hair because I had spiky blonde hair.
And he and which comes back to the very end of the story. Yeah.
Signed balls for my brother, myself and my dad who are like lifelong Giants fans. And then that was it was just pretty awesome that he went all the way.
He went church and then came back yeah or just to a bar well that's the perfect i'll be right back yeah that's the perfect he was gone for an hour he was gone for an hour and he came all the way back to to do that and he was dressed the same like he didn't go home and change or anything right he like he literally ran out to make it to church with his family and then he came back that's the's the perfect Dusty Baker story, too, because it's like he is the nicest guy, and by all accounts, everyone loves him. But, man, what an idiot.
Could have just signed your ball right then and there, maybe 10 seconds, never had to come back. Yeah, well, the problem is there were a lot of – Okay, fair, fair, fair.
And the only reason that he stopped is because I went up to him and I said – I was like, please, Mr. Dusty Baker.
And he looked at, he was like, if you're here in one hour, I'm going to be here. That's actually a cool story.
So it was really cool. And you're a fan of the Saints, which I think those fans are, they love the fucking sport.
They are like crazy. And they're also, they just know how to have a good time.
And you know Sean Payton, right? I know Sean. Yeah, we know him too yeah he's done sean is our buddy rad dude yeah we he gave us some wine drink up boys drink up boys we're like yes sir coach yeah yes coach yes yes uh yeah he's looking good man he lost some weight he crossfit uh so i was i was filming a movie called um the the lucky one and i had a seen it you seen it really jeez man all right phew i haven't seen it i bought it five times on it thanks for not saying what you think about it but uh but during that period uh i was i i just hit my own funny bone nice um really good reflexes i was sitting on the couch, and this was back when, yeah, it was like eight, ten years ago.
Yeah. Oh, Jesus.
Checked it again. Don't tear the other ACL.
I fucking love, dude, Zach, I love you, man. Thank you.
Your vibe, like, it just goes everywhere. I fucking love it.
This is like, I don't know. When you're like, I don't want to be Hollywood famous, like, it's genuine because that's from all of our conversations we've had in the last three hours, including this podcast, it's like, yeah, you're just a dude.
You are Cali Chill. Fuck yeah.
Alright. Cali Chill.
Wait, what were we talking about? I'm not becoming exactly right. You were doing a movie in New Orleans.
We all went to celebrate for the wrap party. We were Bourbon Street hungover.
I mean, carrying around those blue beads. It was like Friday night.
So this was Saturday morning on couch, 11 a.m., years and years ago uh and it was a coded front door to get into my apartment so only me only i knew the code and only the cleaner knew the code so uh or sorry my the guy who was living with me who's also my producing partner knew the code um so i heard the code get put in i heard the door get open i'm laying on the couch with, I don't really care. Like we're homies.
I'm just in my boxers. I'm just kicking back.
But I hear them step in, my friend, and I hear like click, clack, click, clack. I'm like, are you wearing tap dance shoes? And I'm like, those are heels.
And they're walking towards me and the couch is blocking someone walking from this side and they're about to see me basically buck naked so i grabbed a blanket and threw it over me and i suddenly go like uh excuse me and she screams i was like what are you doing in my house she goes i was told we could look at this house i was like what do you mean and i'm like what do you i don't know what the fuck you're talking about lady i'm naked and she's like i'm sorry uh we were told that you we could view the house between uh you know two and or eleven and four uh anytime and i'm like i i don't know and she goes well maybe you know my husband uh this is sean payton and i looked at the front door i'm wrapped in nothing but a blanket and his wife is two feet from me like right next to where the bedrooms are and he's just walking in front of her and he goes hey son he's just like hey son how are you big fan and immediately we became good friends but I literally first time I met him. I was in my underwear trying to hold a blanket together with his wife two feet away from me and shaking his hand in New Orleans.
And then we went next door to Emerald's and we ate the whole menu. That sounds amazing.
And now I'm a Saints fan for life. I also got to go to their practice field

because Sean invited me to the practice field

and I got to throw the football with Drew Brees.

It was super fun.

I've only thrown the football with a couple pro quarterbacks.

Like Bortles?

We can make that happen.

Yeah.

Just say the word.

I would love to.

It's hard to catch sometimes though

because they get right at your face.

Oh, yeah.

You guys are very accurate. You can just tell us.
We got a few. Matt Flynn.
Yeah. The Saints.
Josh Allen. He'll take your head off.
So actually, we don't want that. Pat Mahomes probably also take your head off.
We don't want that. I think any of them could probably take my head off.
Yeah, yeah. We don't want to do that.
Then again, my head's pretty big. No, it's not.
You got small. Hey, man.
Don't beat yourself up about that. It was an accurate joke.
Oh, you're getting a big head. Damn it.
Fuck. I'm kidding.
I don't know. I have a very small head.
You're very good looking. Don't beat yourself up about it.
Do you ever get sick of people just telling you that you're very good looking? You have dope eyes, though. Yeah.
No, I'm not. I'm all.
This is going to sound like the cheesiest shit in the world. But I don't.
i value it a lot less than i used to and every chance i have to demonstrate how little appearance matters for the rest of my life i will fucking jump on it like that's that's that's where my youtube space and and ventures out into the world and sort of create a space like,

we're a world full of very different people and we need lots of different kinds of entertainment.

And I think entertainment just like sports is,

I mean,

it's,

it is our history.

It is,

it's what it's,

we are.

It,

it,

it,

you know,

history can't be rewritten.

The movies that tell the stories are how generations learn about them. How much have you guys learned about Winston Churchill from fucking Dunkirk? We've got some loose loft in front of us.
We're going to try to strafe him off the beach. That's all Dunkirk.
We just did the whole movie. That was perfect.
I was like just did the banter. No, no, you're thinking of the other one.
Running out of fuel. Oh, wait, Dunkirk? No, we thought of Dunkirk.
We're idiots. You're thinking of the one that's about our finest hour.
Our finest hour. Is that it? Our darkest hour.
Our darkest hour. Darkest hour, yes.
I learned a shitload about that. Yes.
Oh, Darkest Hour. Okay, but Darkest Hour, if you then watch, if you watch Darkest Hour, then you watch

Dunkirk, then Dunkirk makes sense.

There's some birds in there against a torpedoes flock.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Do you like our impression of Dunkirk?

Tick.

A bunch of civilians over here in the channel.

I'm going to buzz over them real quick.

You've killed my boy. He fell down the body stairs and you shoved him off a fucking show.
Oh, my fire. Where are the boats? The boats were supposed to be here.
Why'd you knock out that little lad? How did we plan a war with all of our soldiers? He's bleeding from his head. Why would we put all our soldiers over there? He's got the water.
There's oil in the water. He's bleeding from his ears.
There's oil. Oi.
There's oil. There's heaps of oil.
Hey, I'm from One Direction. I shoot rifles.
Oh, yeah. That's good.
That's good. Zach.
That's how I feel about the movie. Zach, this has been awesome.
We got one last. Well, I got one last thing we got to do.
Yeah. It's not, we usually do the Seek Geek question where we put in promo code take and you get $10 off.
This is the Seek Geek movie pitch. So you said earlier in this podcast, if you can look into a director's eyes and feel the movie they're trying to make, you're in.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yes.
So? That was something I said. Boner dogs.
Yeah, so look into our... Boner dogs.
Yeah. Very rare.
Boner dogs. Don't we go boner dogs? All right, I'll start.
Okay. And by the way, the in the eyes thing isn't like...
You don't have to stare into my eyes. Oh, but you said in the eyes.
We're very little people. We'll look straight.
It gathered your vibe. Just tell me the picture.
Okay. Boner Dogs.
Okay. I love it.
Here's how it goes. The name wins.
Go ahead. Yes.
Okay. So it's a yes.
It's Iditarod. The name wins.
Do you know the Iditarod? Yes. I do know.
They're running around in Alaska. It's...
Snow Dogs. PFTN.
Sidebar. Hold on.
Rush. What's the movie? Rush.
I forgot this. Boner Dogs.
Besides the fact that the dog has a boner. All right, so.
Okay, boner dogs. Think about it.
Boner dogs. What my colleague.
I'm going to let PFT take it from here. I could help you write it.
What my colleague was trying to say, and the point he was trying to get across is the dog has a boner. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The dog has a boner. Yeah.
And so it's a pack of sled dogs, right? And they go out, and they all make fun of this one boner dog because he's got a boner. Yeah.
And none of the other dogs. You've always got a boner, dog.
These flaccid little dog dicks that aren't red. And so they get lost out in the wilderness, right? Super lost.
And the only way they can get back is boner dog follows the trail of his boner to get back home. It's like a little fucking rudder.
Get this. Here's the best part.
It lights up. Oh, yeah.
Yes. Okay.
Yeah. He wants to be creative.
Yeah. Yeah.
We'll definitely put that in the script. Zach? I just am sensing Rudolph potential vibes.
Oh. Okay.
Yeah. Something like that.
Yes. Okay.
But here's the best part is the dogs are played by Kevin Hart. Mm-hmm.
Are their voices? It could be animated. Either way.
Your call. Oh, I love Kevin Hart.
One more sidebar. One more sidebar.
Kevin Hart. Jack Black.
Let's make sure that we give Zach the role of the boner. The lead boner.
No, the boner. Okay.
The voice of the boner. Redo it, redo it.
Kevin Hart. We're going to get there.
Will Ferrell. Mm-hmm.
Adam Sandler. Mm-hmm.
David Spade. Mm-hmm.
Chris Rock, Kevin James, The Rock. Rock Schneider.
The Rock actually plays a rock. Guys, guys, if you can cast that movie, just call it Boner Dogs and you win.
Okay, but you're in. I'll be in it.
Yeah, we're going to give you the voice of the boner. Basically, it's being John Malkovich.
Being John Malkovich. Except when you...
I found a way to crawl into people's minds and give them boners. I got it.
I got it. This is your passion project.
This is your Medellin. Le boner.
But first, you gotta make Aquaman boner dogs. But then you can make Le Boner.
It's black and white. I'm going to get Boner Dogs, like, all of their IPs and stuff.
And we're going to turn Boner Dogs into something. A real movie.
Okay, we actually have a pitch meeting for us. Let's turn it into a short.
Let's turn it into a short. Can I say that you're...
But don't call the boner short. Yeah.
The boner's going to be very large. Oh, yeah.
Don't say it's a short boner. It's not going to be, like, super large.
The boner's going to be very large.

Don't say it's a short boner.

It's not going to be super large.

We'll talk about how big the boner's going to be.

I'm like Tom Cruise, guys.

I'm like 5'9", but I look maybe 6'0".

That's true.

He taught you how to drive a motorcycle.

Oh, what?

Tom Cruise taught you how to drive a motorcycle?

Oh, yeah.

I wasn't talking about PFT. I could.
No, Tom Cruise didn't teach me how to drive a motorcycle I wasn't talking about PFT

No Tom Cruise didn't teach me how to drive a motorcycle

What did he teach you

Tom Cruise taught me more than most people

Motorcycles?

No he taught me how to be a badass

I do think that Tom Cruise

As far as movie stars go

He's my favorite of the movie star

Movie stars

As opposed to

Thank you. as far as movie stars go, he's my favorite of the movie star movie stars.

As opposed to...

Let me put that another way. He does the movie star as an actor the best way.

He's a real movie star.

He's J.J. Abrams every time.
He's Tom Brady. He's like the Tom Brady.
What you were talking about earlier, the golden age of being famous and movie stars. He's part of that era.
He is. Not this era.
He is. This new era, what's brilliant about it is we have on places like YouTube we have freedom of speech.
Subscribe Zac Efron. We have YouTube.
Subscribe Zac Efron. YouTube.com slash Zac Efron? Sure.
It's your page. Yeah.
If you search Zac Efron YouTube. YouTube.com slash Boner Dogs.
And then subscribe. That's the way you get the good subs.
Subs. Yeah, we talked about the subs.
Fuck, someone's going to make that and steal that from us. No.
Damn it. No, they're not.
Don't do it. Because we own the IP for it.
God damn it. Someone get on that IP.
We have a pitch meeting for Boner Dogs, I think, tomorrow. Can we say that you're attached? Loosely attached.
Loosely attached. We're not going to say you're in.
We're going to say you're loose. Not.
You've had a conversation about it. No, not.
It's not a lie. No, not until you guys meet my agents tomorrow morning.
So you guys will come in. Okay.
We're going to pitch it to CAA. Okay.
At the office. That's right.
So far. Yep.
And then we'll pitch it, get it fully set up at a studio or at Netflix. Done.
And then if I can get a hold of The Rock, he would be a big sign. He would be.
Yeah. We'll have to discuss.
It's got to be a cast. I'm not a sold on The Rock.
I would rather aim a little higher than The Rock, so'm going to say no to the rock okay that's really that's really hard that's called art of the deal negotiate let's see who else is you know what we'll throw the rock in there alright fine I'll throw the rock last last question Kevin Hart's good yeah did Anna Kendrick protect you back let's see I'm just going to call her I'm going to put her on speaker show I'm just going to call her over I'm just going to call her.

Yeah, just be like, hey.

I mean, there's got to be an explanation for it. Actually, though, I will say.

Did she text you?

No.

No, she didn't.

Anna Kendrick.

Let me just call her real quick.

Why would you unfollow you?

That doesn't make sense.

Right. It makes no sense.
Get to the bottom of it. It makes no sense.
Anna's going to be like, Zach, what the fuck? Please pick up. Anna.
Fuck, that was such a fucking... Wow, what was that? See, that's why I'm like, is my phone...
She curves you, yeah. I always wonder if my phone's tapped when that shit happens.
Yeah, it is. It probably is.
I suppose that's what I always think. It's rung like 20 times and she has a voicemail.
Come on, Anna. She picked it up and she has just a speaker playing the sound of the ringing.
No, no, no. Her number was about to play.
Yeah. You'll just tell me if she texts you back.
Mm-hmm. Before we...
Oh, you're a FaceTimer? Oh, my God. What the fuck? She's going to be like, who's dead? No, it's actually just Big Cat.
Followed him and unfollowed him. You know what, Zach? I'm going to end with this.
We actually were trying to... We have a good friend, Bill Walton.
We were trying to interview him today, or this week. I feel like you are the spirit of Bill Walton.
Because this has been a conversation that's unlike any other interview we've done this week, or pretty much ever since Bill Walton. It goes everywhere, gets deep, is funny.
I fucking love it, man. I love you.
I love you guys, too. Thanks so much for having me on the show, man.
Fuck yeah. I love you, buddy.
And your eyes are so sick. Yeah, both you guys, man.
Honestly, you're way cooler in person. Please tell me if Anna Creeks is.
And you're so rad online. You're so rad online.
So I'm like, this is the best place ever. Thank you, man.
Thanks for coming in your creepy van. Yes, exactly.
Very creepy. All right, please tell me.
We should get back together sometime and do another reenactment of Dunkirk. That was the most fun I've ever had.
Yeah, well, if we watch it for five minutes, we'll get the... They're commissioning the entire Navy.
It's all the civilians going out to war. Turn around.
There's too much new boats. Please just text me if Anna Kendrick texts you.
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And now, RJ Hampton. And now for something completely different.
We've got a very special guest in studio right now. He made his decision this morning.
Five-star recruit, top ten projected NBA draft for the 2020 draft. RJ Hampton, who decided to say he's not going to college.
He's going to play for the New Zealand Breakers, who, RJ, this is breaking news to you. I am part owner of the team.
Oh, I did not know that. I'm your boss for one year.
I'm not actually. Maybe more.
Yeah, my first thing is your boss is do whatever you want. We're a player's first team.
Player's first. Yeah, so you do whatever you want.
Don't worry about it. If you ever get a problem, you just text me and I'll solve it.
But, yeah, big news. It's huge news because you are the first college player, you know, five-star recruit who basically decided this, who could have gone anywhere.
There's been guys who've gone overseas, but it's mostly been academic reasons. What was like the decision process at what point did you say like this is actually a real thing I'm going to go play in New Zealand I think when uh my parents brought it up to me and uh Happy brought it up to me and then we just kind of talked about it throughout the season and I didn't really make a decision uh while I was in my high school season this year but uh after that I really took a hard look at it and looked at all the pros and cons, and that's when I decided what I wanted to do.
So when you did the pros and cons list, what was part of the cons? Because, I mean, the pros, obviously, you're going to get paid right away. You get to work out all the time.
You don't have to go to class. You can basically focus on basketball.
What were some of the cons that you went through? I mean, maybe some of the cons were like missing out on that college experience, the college life, and then kind of just like moving far away from home but that was really it i felt like uh there was way more pros than there were cons yeah yeah and we also i should should note that we have a good friend full owner not partial owner of the new zealand breakers matt walsh in here also former teammate of mine so matt when this all went down like what at what point did they hit you up and was like, hey, this could actually happen? Well, I didn't believe it until we had the signature. Okay, which was when? About a month ago.
Yeah. Oh, shit, you guys kept this a secret for a month? Yeah.
Damn. Yeah.
You found out yesterday. I found out yesterday.
I wasn't trusted. The owner? A funny side story real quick.
Matt, you saw the, like, Carmelo Anthony to the breakers. Yeah.
That was, like, obviously a precursor where Matt was maybe trying to figure out who maybe the leak was in the organization. Ah.
That was false? That was misinformation? Yeah. That was false information? Right, Matt? Matt Colangelo.
It's true. Yeah, you don't need the headphones.
You can just let them. We had to throw out a little misinformation to see, identify the leak.
We're still working through that. Yeah, yeah.
Have you used a microphone and headphones before, Matt? No. What's happening over there? All right, say it again, Matt.
What was the Carmelo news? First of all, I'm hungover. Tell us how the Carmelo thing happened.
Basically, I put it out on our group WhatsApp that everyone asked what the big global news was going to be. So I put a picture of Carmelo, hoodie Carmelo.
About 10 minutes later, it was all over New Zealand media. We've got a big leak.
We've got a niche. So we're working through it now.
I knew the RJ news yesterday and I was not a leak. No, you sat on it pretty good.
I did tell everybody. There was a lot of Barstool chatter with RJ.
Well, we did say it on part of my take today. We're like, we just want to flex that we know that no one else knows.
So look out for a big, big information coming at 830. I was like, wait, what? Oh, okay, it must be get up.
I think all all things considered we did a pretty good job keeping it contained i'd agree so rj uh the i saw the quote that you had that was very interesting you basically were like i wasn't my goal has never been to be a college basketball player you just you wanted to be a pro and i think that honesty is crazy right now because most people they do the well i'm going to play in college and then I'm going to go to the pro. So at no point, I mean, were you at any point like I do want to go to college or there's a certain college that I'm liking more than the others? Oh, yeah, for sure.
I mean, I didn't really get this brought up to me until like a couple months ago, like I said. But all throughout middle school and high school and even elementary school, I just, I mean, I liked college and liked watching NCAA basketball basketball, but ultimately my dream was never to play college basketball.
That was not my main goal was always to play in the NBA. I mean, I love that.
I think that's everyone's, every type of career's main goal. Not a lot of people say it like that.
Yeah, they won't come out right and just say, I do not, my goal is never to play college basketball. Is there anybody who's like footsteps that you're following? Is there anybody who's like, oh, they did this so I can do this? Or does it feel like you're kind of blazing your own path for other people to maybe follow in your footsteps? I think I'm kind of trying to be a trendsetter here because, like you said, this is not an academic reason because I could have went to any school I wanted to, but...
Let's go. Flex.
I wanted to really start a trend and just, I mean, set a bar because you don't have to go to college to get to the NBA. All the European players overseas don't do that.
Luka never went to college, and he was one of the best. Yeah, he's pretty damn good.
He's all right. So one thing Jeff Goodman tweeted out, he said, good luck to RJ Hampton overseas.
He'll make a lot of money, and are pros to this move unlimited time to work on his game however his brand would have benefited in college let's face it few besides some nba execs will truly pay attention to what he's doing this year so what do you what do you think about that i mean he's basically saying that you won't have like the zion i mean right because well there's two things about this tweet that i don't really understand. One is, who cares besides the NBA execs? Those are the guys you're trying to impress.
And two, this is part of our pitch going forward that I wanted to tell you about, Matt. You are actually going to get a lot of Twitter buzz and social media buzz through our ownership.
We're going to talk about you a lot. Because, I mean, with like,

when I said with like the media and like the branding over here,

I mean, most people didn't know Luca

until three months before the draft.

Right.

What pick was he?

Top five?

Yeah.

He was number five.

Top five pick.

He was number five.

So, I mean, that's my point.

And what do you think about that, though, Matt?

We're going to do our own branding.

There's no question.

I mean, I told RJ,

Barstool's the most powerful brand in the world for 18 to 40-year-olds.

And it's funny.

If you Google the breakers, you get Obama, LeBron, Carmelo, and now RJ Hampton.

So it's not like we're lacking media.

And Rick Pitino.

Forgot about our guy, Rick Pitino.

Can we hire Rick Pitino?

Offers on the table.

You know, standing offer for Rick Pitino. Let's do it.
Let's do it. So your whole family's moving with you, right? They are.
And I would assume that part of the reason why you picked the breakers in this league is because of the English thing, right? Of course. Yeah.
Because I think that's obviously a big selling point is that if guys want to do this for a year, they don't have to learn a whole new language. And the culture is obviously different.
But that's going to be a big story. Yeah, it's an easy place to live.
It's basically, I was telling his mom and dad, it's basically like being on vacation for seven months. Now, what about spiders and snakes, though? Because I've heard that there are huge spiders and snakes in New Zealand.
Well, I mean, people think I'm from Dallas, but I used to live probably 45 minutes outside of Dallas, kind of by Oklahoma. And we used to live on like five acres and there was always spiders and snakes.

Oh, so you're prepared for the spiders and snakes.

I have to jump in here.

There are no poisonous spiders or snakes in New Zealand.

So that's a fallacy?

That's Australia.

There are no predators.

Sounds like the tourist board got you.

There are no predators.

There are no predators in New Zealand.

Wait.

Oh yeah, New Zealand's the one with just a shitload of sheep.

Oh, sheep.

Are you scared of sheep?

Are you scared of sheep?

Sheep and kiwi. No.
That sounds pretty cool. Sheep could run at you.
What about a ram? More sheep than people. More sheep than people.
That was a ram. Yeah, what if you got suffocated by sheep? That wouldn't be fun.
No, that would not be fun. Do we want to break some hearts? What school would you have gone to? Who's number two? Do it.
Which school offered you the most? What would you have gone to? No. No, if I'm being serious, I would have went to the University of Kansas.
Oh, that's going to hurt so much. That's going to hurt so much more.
Bill Self, I apologize. I mean, what are you going to do, though? Here's what I don't understand.
I mean, have you been getting a lot of shit, I would assume, on Twitter? I mean, honestly, I haven't really been reading that much. I've just been texting my friends back and stuff.
Good, don't. I not most of everyone most of the stuff i've seen has been good and i turn my comments to

only people i could follow right so that's very smart yeah i mean i i there have i've seen some

angry fans but it's like what what you're making a decision for yourself and not for the right it's

it's actually especially in today's day and age when everyone is all about player empowerment

except for when the empowerment goes against their specific team and they're like well what the fuck

Thank you. It's actually, especially in today's day and age, when everyone is all about player empowerment, except for when the empowerment goes against their specific team.
And they're like, well, what the fuck? It's like, well, but you're cool with guys getting paid. And I think this is going to be one of those things where, you know, it's obviously piece by piece, but the NCAA is going to have to start having real conversations if five-star recruits start going abroad.
Yeah, I mean, but like in a couple years, the run and dumber will be over anyway,

so kids will just go straight out to high school. You would have gone straight to the NBA, right?

If I could, yeah.

I would have declared.

Yeah, yeah.

Come on, you would have came to the breakers.

Yeah, I guess you broke our heart here too.

I'm excited, man.

I'm excited.

I mean, I don't know how many games I'm going to be able to.

What time are the games on?

Middle of the night.

Middle of the night.

I'm going to watch all the games.

That's not terrible.

Well, no, I'm having a kid, so I'm going to watch all the games.

I'll be up.

You'll be up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be up all night watching the games.
What's the big thing that you're going to work on your game? Like you always got to say that when you go into a new situation. Like what's the thing that R.J.
Hampton is going to add to his game? Probably just like full court defense, like just locking somebody down. Give Rick Pitino.
The whole The whole game. Locking somebody down the whole game.
Are you going to wear the short shorts? I noticed you wore short shorts. Can you wear shorts? Because some leagues have them banned.
Really? You can wear as short a shorts as you wear. What's up with that? Why is that coming back? I saw some of your AAU highlights.
You got the short shorts. Jalen Brown played a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean.
Trendsetter. It's like the new wave.
Trendsetter. You can't dribble really with your shorts all along anyways.
It's funny. You've never seen Allen Iverson.
Yeah. All right.
Well, RJ, congratulations again, man. This is awesome.
Oh, can we say, did you report how much he's getting paid? Can you do that? No. Okay.
All right. We won't do that.
More or less than can. I should have asked you that off air.
Yeah.

Probably less.

I should have asked you that off air.

But, RJ, very excited for you, man.

Welcome to the Breakers family.

Thank you.

If you have any problems, hit me up because I'm like good cop, bad cop.

Like, if dad says no, you can come to me.

Oh, shit, now I'm mom.

Either way, you can come to me if you ever need anything.

I'm part owner.

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Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have Bachelor Talk for guys that don't watch The Bachelor that definitely don't watch the bachelor hank what'd you watch in the bachelor last night i was here with you guys so i didn't watch the bachelor not that i ever do watch the bachelor at at oh but for those of us that didn't including myself because i didn't watch it on dvr cam wouldn't stop interrupting people on the group date.
Damn. Wait, is Cam?

Oh, it's a bachelorette, so there's multiple dudes.

Correct.

Got it.

Luke P doesn't realize Hannah likes other guys,

and Hannah had to yell at him to stop being so cocky.

Luke is a cocky guy.

Like, Luke is a cocky guy name.

If you see a Luke, there's a chance that he's probably a bit of a punk.

Connor S. had a one-on-one with Hannah, but she was sick,

so it was at her apartment, and when he left, he left post-it notes around the room for her saying nice things. That's creepy.
That's lifted from memento right there, and that doesn't end well for anybody involved. Cam tried to get a pity rose and told a story about how one time he was told he needed a leg amputation but didn't actually need one, and then his grandma died, and then he had to rehome his 10-month-old puppy.
That's like when Marlon's man almost got in a plane crash because he had turbulence that one time. I was about to say, dude, pick one sob story and stick to it.
Right now you're all over the place. Like, okay, the grandma that you almost had to have your leg cut off, that's fine.
When you throw in a 10-month-old puppy, this is just too much right now. Pick one of those three and really hone in.
Also, I would just hone in on the fact that you beat having to get your leg amputated just through your pure mindset. Yeah, that's badass.
That's alpha. And then Mike called him out saying it was BS and Hannah sent him home.
Who the him is, I don't know, but that is kind of mysterious. I'm guessing him is Cam.
So this is just the recap now we're getting. People do know who him was, but we don't? Yeah.
Got it. Well, you tell me.
It was definitely Cam. Read the sentence again.
Cam tried to get a pity rose, all that. And then he had to rehome his 10-month-old puppy.
Mike called him out saying it was BS and Hannah sent him home. I actually don't know.
That could be Cam or Mike. Cam sounds like a loud mouth.
I'd say it was Cam. I think it was Mike.
Mike is the last sentence where him gets sent home. But why would Mike get sent home? Because he called out a guy.
He called out a guy for just having to rehome a puppy. Mike hates dogs.
Okay, got it. I think it was Cam.
Cam? No, I think it was Mike. Maybe he just hates irresponsible dog owners.
It's got to be so frustrating for people who actually watch the show. They're like, we fucking know who it is.
It's just someone wrote a sentence that doesn't match up. Classic us.
Right now. I'm not sorry at Watchers.
Yeah. Had it again.
Right now, Luke sounds like the obvious winner in this group.

Yeah, he's got a little badass.

Cam got sent home.

Cam got sent home.

Okay, got it.

Told you.

The sentence wasn't great, but that's okay.

Yeah.

We move on.

We have a just-stop-talking New York Giants.

PFT, I don't know if you saw this,

but Pat Shermer is comparing Daniel Jones and Eli Manning with each other again,

which stop doing that, Giants. Stop being like, hey, these guys are so much alike because that's not what anyone wants to hear right now, I don't think.
And then he said, they're very calm in their approach, but they're very fiery under the covers. Yeah, so I think Pat Shurmur definitely fucked both of them.
Yeah, and I can't imagine either of them was fiery under the covers but i'll bet i'll bet eli manning's good in bed you think so yeah i mean yeah he's got a mouth for sucking he's got a mouth for something and he self-sacks all the time so he's always hopping into the fart sack i i wouldn't be shocked if Eli Manning had a strong dick game.

He probably actually is a pretty good French kisser

because his mouth just stays open at all times.

Yeah, well, I'll put it this way.

He fucks really good once every seven years.

Yeah, exactly.

You had a locker room talk for Will Muschamp.

Yeah, old Billy Muschamp, the Gamecocks coach. They asked him what he thought about all these schools banning the oklahoma drill and his response was i have no idea what the oklahoma drill is south carolina has the cock drill i love it i love the cock drill this has seen on fucking machines.com and spin zone or sorry spoiler alert that actually just is the oklahoma drill because what is like if you ban the oklahoma drill can't they just rename it and be like well no it's not the oklahoma drill it's the cock drill it's the cock drill i hadn't thought of that but that's a really good that's a good spin zone out of it i also wouldn't be surprised if will must champ doesn't totally understand that that could be a double entendre no definitely not definitely not when he when he got hired there it never dawned on him that like he can't just throw around the word cock left and right being like everyone will figure it out dude because you're the game yeah he just had like a bunch of old playbooks and practice drills left over from spurrier that were like very obviously double entendre names from the old coach.
And Will is just like clueless about it. Also, I know this will probably piss off our South Carolina listeners.
And I do love Charleston. I love the state of South Carolina.
Great, great place to visit, but I can't stand when South Carolina people refer to themselves as USC. That's the worst.
You're not USC. USC is in California.
I'm sorry. It's just the truth.
It's tough. And I do like Will Muschamp.
He's one of those coaches that you need a few guys like him in college football to really spice it up because they literally have no idea that anything exists outside of college football. Bill Muschamp speaks English like a non-native speaker understands English.
He doesn't understand any sort of colloquialisms.

If you told him there's more than one way to skin a cat, he'd be like, no, that's not true.

It's just with your dad's hunting knife.

That's it.

That's the only way.

Yeah.

He also, yeah, I mean, he's got that confused wet dog look on him at all times where he's

always sweating and always in a little slight state of confusion.

That's how I like my football coaches.

Yeah, he looks like the perfect mix between Jay Gruden and Deuce Gruden. Yeah.
in a little slight state of confusion. That's how I like my football coaches.

Yeah, he looks like the perfect mix between Jay Gruden and Deuce Gruden.

Yeah, yes.

All right, Hank, guys on checks.

Guys, my boyfriend and I took a break in December.

Now he's in a relationship with another girl,

but we still FaceTime every night

and have a closer, meaningful relationship than they do.

He says he loves me more, but for some reason stays in in the relationship should i keep waiting for him or finally move on please help yikes that's yeah definitely keep waiting sounds like he's he's gonna leave her any day now he's definitely not telling the other girl that he loves her the most that's he definitely loves you the most if he's saying it on FaceTime when he's really horny late at night.

I'll put it this way. You need to get access to his phone and see what name you're saved in his phone as because I guarantee it's not yours.
No. It's like Phillip.
Yeah. Grandma.
Whatever roommate you have that you're not super, super close with. Right.
Right, right.

And you also need to make sure that you give him an ultimatum. Don't let him jerk you around like this.
This is bullshit. Be like, put up or shut up.
Let's fuck. Yeah, guys love ultimatums.
Just be like, either fuck me or stop FaceTiming me. Yeah.
And then he'll definitely commit to you after that. Yes.
Hey, PFT, Big Cat, and Hanky. So my roommate's best friend is living at our apartment while he waits for his lease.
The same guy who was all over me at the bar one night. My boyfriend is also staying with us, but he saw the other guy grabbing and holding on to me at the bar.
Do you think my boyfriend is wrong for wanting to fight the guy and wanting to, quote-unquote, break every one of his fingers in half? I think he's dumb for being so aggressive, but he says it's just grit. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, he is in the right to want to pulverize this guy's face.
Man-stop. Yeah, once he stops wanting to murder somebody, that's when you have a problem.
That's when he's cheating on you. That's when you have low T.
Yeah, if your man hasn't gotten in a fight over you in the last six weeks uh he's probably gotten another girl pregnant wait so the wait so the guy who was who he wants to fight is living with them now that's awkward damn that's really he's gonna poison him yeah something bad's gonna happen i don't know just make sure that maybe put some gopros around the uh around the That way when they do fight, you can at least go viral. Also, what if this dude just is secretly in love with the other guy? That's true.
Like, damn, I want to fight him so bad. You can't watch, though.
You can't be here when we fight. That's what happens with guys.
Sometimes you just want to fight somebody so hard that you end up loving him. Yeah.
Next. Sup, boys.
I've been talking to this guy for a while, but there's one little thing that bothers me. When he gets drunk, he gets obsessed with telling people he's Irish.
He wears the flag around his neck, flaunts around his Guinness, and tells everyone he has huge balls but a tiny cock. Like I guess most Irish people do, or so he says.
The worst part is I asked.

Was he?

I asked as he was talking to his dad one day and it turns out he's not even Irish.

Not 1%. What should I do?

Take away his Dropkick Murphy's albums.

This guy definitely is like when Conor McGregor gets a fight, he's doing the when one of us goes to war, we all go to war and all that bullshit. I don't know.
I actually think this is kind of a funny quirk. I mean, if he was 100% Irish, it'd be annoying.
But the fact that he's 0% Irish is kind of funny. Listen, we're all from Pangaea anyway, so it's not like he's not not Irish.
Right. I'm fine with it.
It sounds like this dude is just, he's gotten really into Irish culture. He eats a lot of Lucky Charms, listens to a lot of Floggy Molly.
It's a phase. He'll grow out of it.
Yeah, let him be. Let him be.
All right, last one. Sup, boys? Almost every time I mention I'm going to shower, my fiance requests to take a poop first.
Oh. As if suddenly, within 10 to 15 minutes I'm using our only bathroom, disaster may strike, and therefore he needs to preemptively empty his bowels just in case.
Bare enough, except that it's meant that since we've lived together,

I've probably taken 75% of my showers surrounded by his shit cloud.

Am I doomed to stinky showers for the rest of my life?

Help.

Dude, this guy's a psycho.

Just get a bigger apartment.

Get two bathrooms.

Disagree.

I think this guy's just smart.

This is how guys are wired.

If we're on a road trip and we see a gas station,

we don't know when the next gas station's going to be, we're going to fill up the tank with gas because you don't want to run out like he's just being prepared would you rather take a shower after he's pooped or take a shower while he's pooping because that's those are the only two choices i'd rather him just take the poop at scott boris's office to be honest sometimes it's not an option. And you know what? The weird thing about that is past PFT would have probably done that.
And I'm turning over New Leaf because I've realized it's not always socially acceptable to poop in other people's places of business. And so this is personal growth for me.
And I'll thank you to applaud me for it instead of shaming me. Okay.
Yeah, you need another bathroom or this relationship is over.

Like, this will not last through the wedding.

You can't do it.

That's not sustainable to have to take a poop shower all the time.

That's not your poop.

Why don't you do it to him?

Every time he has to take a shower, just unload one right before he gets in there.

Yeah.

No, every time you have to take a shower and he says, I got to poop, you just got to say,

okay, but I got to poop first. And just have to poop and just poop on him oh yeah leave the seat warm for him all right we'll see everyone on friday love you guys Thank you.
Shining away I'm coming for your lover Take on me Take on me Take me Take on me I'll be your You take on you So needless to say What's it is Bye. Thank you.
I'm so glad to be safe than sorry. Hey.
Come on.

Dream on me.

Dream on me.

I'll hear you go.

Let it go.

Let it go.

Hold the strings like to stay.

And here's your heart.

Just to play my word.