Zac Efron + RJ Hampton, The Newest New Zealand Breaker

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, Zach Efron. Yes, we have Zach Efron on today's part in my take.
Very, very excited for you all to hear this interview. We went to Zach's house.

Speaker 1 We taped a burger taste test review with him that's coming out on his YouTube channel on Thursday. We had an awesome time.
He listens to the show. We could not believe it.
We got lost in his eyes.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. We also have even more incredible, well, maybe equally as incredible news.
We signed RJ Hampton. We're better recruiters than Coach Cal.
We, yeah, we, Hank.

Speaker 1 We, he is in the collective ownership team that is Hank, PFT, Big Cat, of the New Zealand Breakers. We signed RJ Hampton.
We have him on for a few minutes. He came by the studio.

Speaker 1 He was actually on radio with us. So, RJ Hampton, Zach Efron, you cannot get a bigger show than this.
And before we get to all of that,

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Save some animals. Today is Wednesday, May 29th, and the Boston Bruins won game one, 4-2.

Speaker 1 We wanted to update everyone because I know we stopped after the first period last night. So there it is.

Speaker 1 If you've been waiting on pins and needles to find out who won the first game, the Stanley Cup final, there it is. Boston Bruins 4-2 over the St.
Louis Blues. The St.

Speaker 1 Louis Blues, PFT, have still yet to win a Stanley Cup game in the history of their franchise.

Speaker 4 Very interesting. Congratulations

Speaker 1 to Hank.

Speaker 4 That's a big win. It proves once again 2-0 is the most dangerous lead in hockey and also in soccer, I'm told.
So I'm going to look to rehash that one during the Women's World Cup.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Boston, it was a shit-pumping. We already got the gif of the playoffs.
The dude with his helmet off, skating all across the ice to level that other dude on the other team. Torrey Krug.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Torrey Krug. So dude on dude, Violet.

Speaker 1 Good old-fashioned. Yeah.
Good old-fashioned slobber knocker.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was a Donny Brook out there.

Speaker 1 One of those ones where just bo uh boys become men in front of our eyes because it's the cup. It uh should be a good series, though.
It was a very competitive game. Should be I think what?

Speaker 1 What are you giving me that look for, Hank? Hank's giving me a look right now like the series is over. I think the Blues will make it a series.
I think it will be a competitive series.

Speaker 4 Okay, let's update the

Speaker 4 Boston Misery Power Rankings. Right now, the biggest problem that Boston sports fans have is that we're not giving them enough credit for their 4-2 victory in game one of the Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 4 So that's tough. Thoughts and prayers to you, Hank?

Speaker 1 Well, we just updated it. So yeah, there you go, everyone who is listening

Speaker 1 and reliving the game through our podcast. I know you probably were like, what the fuck? It ended after the first period.
Nope. We're back.
Back-to-back days. The rare back-to-back pardon my takes.

Speaker 5 Shocker how many hungover AWLs are out there?

Speaker 1 Yes. By far the most tweets I've ever gotten were just people being like, yo, you describe my exact situation.

Speaker 1 I got too drunk this weekend, fell asleep, missed the game, and was re-watching with you guys. So if

Speaker 1 you're even more drunk than the drunk guys.

Speaker 4 This is probably the worst day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 This is probably worse than yesterday. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The guys who were the delayed hangover, now you're fully caught up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so we were talking directly to the 23 to 27-year-old listeners on yesterday's show.

Speaker 4 Today, we're talking to you, 30 to 34-year-old listeners, that get the two-day, the 48-hour delayed onset hangover because you're old.

Speaker 4 We're updating you. The Bruins ended up winning.

Speaker 1 So that is the news in hockey. We have, because it's a back-to-back show days, we don't have a ton of new news, but we do have the, well, we have two pieces of news.
We have R.J. Hampton.

Speaker 1 Let's start there. We have R.J.

Speaker 1 Hampton, five-star recruit, deciding between, and we alluded to this on yesterday's show, deciding between Kansas, Duke, I think Kentucky, I think Memphis was in the mix, and maybe Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 He says, fuck all that college stuff. I'm going to the New Zealand Breakers.
The New Zealand Breakers by

Speaker 1 who owns them? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 We don't. That's right.
Us. We own the New Zealand Breakers.
I think it's safe to say that we cucked the shit out of Coach Cal, Coach K, and Bill Solfe all in one fellow swoop.

Speaker 4 We made a damn strong offer, big cat. A damn strong offer.

Speaker 1 So strong, PFT, so strong that he signed actually 30 days ago and we didn't even know.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah, that's a strong.

Speaker 4 I thought there was going to be a longer negotiation period, but he was like, yeah, that's more than a fair offer.

Speaker 4 Dare we say that the landscape of amateur athletics in the United States shifted by the winds of Pardon My Take?

Speaker 4 I think that it's probably right about time that we should start having that conversation.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm happy you brought that up because Jeff Goodman

Speaker 1 did a little Debbie Downer turd in the Punch Bowl tweet where he was like,

Speaker 1 good for him for deciding to go to New Zealand and make money and forego his amateur status. But outside of a few NBA execs, this won't help his brand.

Speaker 1 Now, first of all, I think only he cares about NBA exec because he wants, his literal goal is to just be in the NBA. He said he does not care about being a college athlete.

Speaker 1 And two, guess what, Jeff Goodman? His brand is going to be fine because we're going to be the number one R.J. Hampton podcast on planet Earth.

Speaker 4 I think you're forgetting something, Big Cat, and that's only three out of 30 NBA execs have the internet. So a lot of them won't be able to watch his highlights and stay posted on what he's up to.

Speaker 4 Also, hey,

Speaker 4 was it John Goodman? I'm really looking forward to your series on HBO coming out soon. That looks awesome.
But have you ever watched a little movie trilogy called The Lord of the Rings?

Speaker 4 That was in New Zealand. People seem to pay attention to that.
So

Speaker 1 it looks like checkmate. Also, just think about, like, I mean, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 I think you could make that argument 20 years ago, but now, look at all the international stars that are in, you know, the NBA.

Speaker 1 Luka Doncic, you can tell me that Luka Doncic was like a household household name leading up to the draft, but that's just false. People who are tuned into basketball definitely knew who he was.

Speaker 1 But if you ask the casual fan, a lot of them didn't know who he was. And he becomes the best rookie in the class.
And it's like that just kind of happened in terms of visibility and branding.

Speaker 1 Everyone in the NBA circles knew who he was. That's all that really matters.
And the branding comes after. So good job, RJ Hampton.
Way to stick it to the man. And we have him on the show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, great job, RJ. And it's not like NBA executives, well, maybe they do.
Maybe they're affected by a very selective short-term memory loss.

Speaker 4 They've been in tune with this kid for the last three years. Actually, you know what? Recruiting, NBA scouting probably starts in sixth grade by now.

Speaker 4 So they have been paying attention to this kid for a long time. They're not going to forget about him because he's actually playing in the future.
He's traveling to the future to play in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 So I think he'll be just fine. I'm very happy with

Speaker 4 the strategy and the package that we were able to offer him in terms of compensation, even though he is taking a pay cut going to New Zealand instead of Duke.

Speaker 4 But that's something we could offer him a little bit more off the court than Duke could. So I'm very happy.

Speaker 4 There's one thing that I'm worried about, though.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 I get carried away with stuff. You know that about me.
So

Speaker 4 when I got a little taste of breaking news,

Speaker 4 I took that a little bit. Some would say a little bit overboard.
Some would say not far enough overboard, even though I have

Speaker 4 an account devoted to my dog.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about the account you created with your dog where you tweet out fake news all the time and then delete it when it's wrong?

Speaker 4 Some would say that that's not overboard. Some would say that that's taking overboard.

Speaker 4 I would disagree, but I'm worried that I'm going to take this overboard and just make a bunch of offers to a lot of people to come play for my team that I really have no decision-making powers over.

Speaker 4 So, I mean,

Speaker 1 yeah. Listen, we're already one step ahead of you because Hank and I had a discussion today, and we are going to hit the AAU circuit and hit hit it hard.

Speaker 1 We're going to get New Zealand Breakers jumpsuits. We're going to sit next to Coach K.
We're just going to show up to every event and be like, hey, have you thought about New Zealand?

Speaker 1 And just make this a fucking brawl in the streets for five-star recruits.

Speaker 4 I'm glad that you guys are on the exact same wavelength that I've because I was about to unveil a marketing plan that's very similar to that.

Speaker 4 Obviously, the AAU circuit, we need to hit that hard. We need to make New Zealand the destination, the only destination for middle school, high school athletes to go to.

Speaker 4 Also, let's make a couple more splashes.

Speaker 4 Let's put some offers out there. I know there was that rumor about Mellow earlier this week to the Breakers.

Speaker 5 We need Mellow Ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you need Mellow Ball?

Speaker 4 Let's make Hoodie Mellow an offer and just create a custom jersey only for him that has a hoodie on the back of it. So

Speaker 4 hoodie mellow, you have the invitation. I'd like to get...

Speaker 4 I mean, fuck it. Let's invite Skip Bayless down there.
Skip Bayless, if you want to improve on your 1.4 points per game, there's one place that'll have you, and that's New Zealand.

Speaker 4 Let's make an offer to the otter from the San Diego Zoo that can dunk.

Speaker 4 Chonk. Yeah, the chonk little otter, Lochi Kamen, can't get hotter.
Let's really go overboard with it until we realize that we've really done something bad, until we face repercussions.

Speaker 4 But until that point, I'm all in on this recruitment stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it. I think we are going to be the best recruiters in the world.
I mean, we kind of already are because we got five-star recruit just without even knowing it.

Speaker 1 Like I said, he signed 30 days ago. So

Speaker 1 we didn't lose any sleep recruiting R.J. Hampton.
That's how good we are at recruiting.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I'm all in on getting dirty with the recruiting.

Speaker 1 The mellow thing that you brought up, I don't want to give away all the RJ Hampton interview, but just tune in because there's actually a very good explanation for why Carmelo Anthony to the New Zealand Breakers became a real rumor.

Speaker 1 And that was

Speaker 1 told by our co-owner, Matt Walsh, who was also in the room when we talked to RJ. But either way, huge day for us.

Speaker 1 We got our guy. We're the best recruiters.
Hey, Coach Cal and Kay,

Speaker 1 say hello to the bad guy. Yeah.
You're in for a road or hurt.

Speaker 4 No recruits are going to say like this.

Speaker 4 This is a sea change.

Speaker 1 Yes. And I can't wait for us to go on Kentucky Sports Radio next week, June 6th.

Speaker 1 Anyone who wants to tune in, and we're just going to fucking just do a whole song and dance about how we're better recruiters than Cal.

Speaker 1 We didn't know what

Speaker 1 our angle would be to be on Kentucky Sports Radio this year.

Speaker 1 We love doing it every single year, but now our angle just fell in our lap with R.J.

Speaker 4 Hampton. It got handed to us.
And what we need to do is we need to get framed R.J. Hampton jerseys and lean them against the wall behind us for every interview that we do to show how great we are.

Speaker 1 In the saran wrap. Okay, we got to talk about one other news story before we get to Hot T, Cool Throne.

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Speaker 4 The Lakers.

Speaker 1 The Lakers are a dumpster fire, more so than we even imagined. There was a huge story that dropped on Tuesday morning.
Hilarious story. I loved it mostly because

Speaker 1 no single person was safe. He went after everyone, and it was good reporting, but it was Rob Palinka telling stories about Kobe Bryant having dinners with ghost Heath Ledger.

Speaker 1 Magic Johnson being like a psycho where it's magic and Irvin and Irvin's an asshole.

Speaker 1 Jeannie Buss thinking, Jeannie Buss is like your crazy aunt that gets way too into holistics shit where she keeps thinking that it's fate. Everything is fate.
So it's like everything is fate.

Speaker 1 We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 LeBron, Maverick Carter, or sorry, Rich Paul doing the, oh, I didn't know you were here and interrupting a meeting or a lunch with Maverick Carter and Adam Silver to bitch about Luke Walton.

Speaker 1 Luke Walton basically being like the sympathetic figure in all this. The whole thing was a mess.
What was your favorite part?

Speaker 4 I mean, that lunch was pretty awesome. The oops.
Oh my God, this is such a coincidence that I'm having lunch right next to my business partner who's having lunch with Adam Silver.

Speaker 4 Might as well just go talk to him. And by the way, what does he think that Adam Silver is going to do? What's Adam Silver's reaction to like

Speaker 4 an associate of one of the star players complaining about his coach? Like, is Adam Silver? Like, he's gone. Good is gone.
Yes. I got him.
Yeah. Maybe it was just Tony Dungie, too.

Speaker 4 You never know in those circumstances.

Speaker 4 What this tells me is that this is a classic, like, rats on a sinking ship scenario with the Lakers. Because you're right.
Nobody was spared.

Speaker 4 Everybody got a little taste of some vengeance from somebody else. So everyone inside that front office is talking.

Speaker 4 And it's, yeah, it's rats on a ship, except they're not throwing other rats overboard. They're just throwing them under buses that are driving by on the top of the ocean going next door.

Speaker 4 I liked the lunchtime story, and I was obviously a big fan of Rob Polenka setting up a meeting with a guy that had been dead for at least six months.

Speaker 4 Ghost Heath Ledger. Ghost Heath Ledger.
Now, there are a couple theories that I have about that. One is this is a

Speaker 4 classic strategy for anybody that's ever been in sales, and you have to meet an end-of-the-month quota for how many meetings you set.

Speaker 4 So, you just go in and you put fake names in there, or you put your buddy's name, and you're like, Oh, yeah, I scheduled a meeting. I had a sales meeting with this guy.

Speaker 4 He's like, Oh, yeah, I set up a meeting on the last day of the month with Heath Ledger, River Phoenix, and Paul Walker. So I'm going to need that bonus.

Speaker 1 They're also, I wouldn't put it past Kobe to actually have a meeting with a ghost to figure out how locked in he is.

Speaker 1 Oh, like we're laughing at Rob Palenka right now, but Rob Palenka might be telling the truth. He's just leaving out the part that it was a ghost and not actually Heath Ledger.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think Kobe can talk to dead people. I'm not disputing that part of it.
Maybe a more likely theory is that Rob Palenka just set up a meeting with Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 4 It was like they play the Joker. They're the same person.
Might as well talk to this guy.

Speaker 1 They're also not to make light of mental health, which I never would do, but the fact that they had like a documented stat about the panic attacks that happened was kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Like, what is going on here? Where they're like, yeah, like four people had panic attacks because of Magic Johnson and how mean he is. It's like, Jesus Christ, what is going on?

Speaker 1 And the only person actually

Speaker 1 who kind of comes out clean here is LeBron. Because LeBron lets Rich Paul and Maverick Carter do, yeah.
Interesting that we have all these inside sources.

Speaker 1 Oh, another just great one, little tidbit, the fact that they let, I didn't even realize this happened when it was happening because I'm not like paying attention to the Lakers day to day, but they had Contavious Caldwell Pope playing during his, while he was in jail.

Speaker 1 So he had to go back to jail for 25 days because he had a DUI and he broke his parole. And he is a clutch sports guy.
So this was before they got LeBron.

Speaker 4 they were courting lebron and he would literally leave jail play in the home games go back to jail and miss the away games and they're like what other fucking team would do this oh yeah they were trying to get lebron james so they're gonna do whatever they can for clutch sports clients yeah i i have a small problem with everybody kind of like going after um Palinka for lying to the rock because there's that video that came out during the Lakers genius talks, which is apparently a normal thing that they do do, where they just have successful people talk to the team.

Speaker 4 And so Polinka was telling the story in front of The Rock. I don't have a problem with that, like bringing The Rock into it because everybody lies to The Rock.

Speaker 4 When you're around The Rock, he is such an alpha that you have to lie. You have to make up stories.

Speaker 4 Everybody turns into Billy Hamilton when they're in front of The Rock. That's just how it goes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I actually, that's on my hot seat. So why don't we just segue there? Because I have The Rock on my hot seat.
Hank, why don't you start? And then I'll tease the Rock. Why don't you start?

Speaker 1 No, I'm I'm going to tease the rock. You just

Speaker 1 have a good segue.

Speaker 5 You just ruined a good segue.

Speaker 1 It's a tease.

Speaker 1 The rock is on my hot seat. Tune in later.
Tune for the rock.

Speaker 1 On the hot seat.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is the dominoes tracker.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 So have you guys ever ordered a pizza online on dominoes and has the tracker of like your food's getting ready? It's in the oven. It's out for delivery.
Yep. It's at your front door.
Yep.

Speaker 5 Some big J journalist, independent journalist, went in, did some research, and was like stalking, would put in an order and would follow the restaurant, follow the driver, and make sure that the tracker was up to date.

Speaker 1 No way. And it's not.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 He foiled it. He foiled Domino's.

Speaker 1 Wait, I can't believe in anything.

Speaker 4 Was that the Noid? Did the Noid do this?

Speaker 5 The Noid?

Speaker 1 Are you not familiar with the Noid?

Speaker 4 You got to be Kimmy. You guys aren't familiar with the Noid?

Speaker 5 I'm not familiar with the Noid.

Speaker 4 The Noid was Domino's mascot back in the 80s and 90s, and you had to avoid them if you wanted to get your pizza. It was a big thing.
I'm going to look up the the Noid.

Speaker 1 I'm sure I remember the Noid, but there's only so many things that your brain can hold on to. And I think the Noid got the cut a while ago.
Yeah, the Noid looked... Oh, yeah, he looked like the Noid.

Speaker 4 He looked like a rabbit with botulism.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looked almost like Stretch Armstrong combined with a rabbit. Yeah.
So

Speaker 5 this dude put the order in the restaurant. Followed it while it was going on in the restaurant, and then followed the driver to his house.

Speaker 1 So not creepy at all.

Speaker 5 No. But he got to the bottom of it.
Turns out it was false. And it's a tough day to be dominoes.

Speaker 1 It's about ethics and pizza delivery, Hank.

Speaker 1 It's not creepy at all. It's not creepy.
All right, what's your cool throne?

Speaker 5 My cool throne is LeBron James Jr., his Instagram game. Everyone knows when you join Instagram, like he had that one day, that initial splash that everyone gets.

Speaker 5 His dad posted a picture of him, got him some followers.

Speaker 5 He followed it up the next day, and I thought the video was fake, but everyone seems to tell me that it's real of him just like, I don't know if he was doing an impression.

Speaker 5 No one's been able to really

Speaker 5 find what the impression was of, if it was of anything. But he's kind of talking crazy, talking a little reckless for a 14-year-old.

Speaker 5 Got people going, and it just boosts his engagement, got him more followers.

Speaker 1 And it's just, it's a good two-day stretch for LeBron James Jr.

Speaker 5 on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So was that not? It wasn't him, right? Or was, but it was fake?

Speaker 5 Everyone that I've talked to said it's real.

Speaker 1 I thought when I initially saw it heard it, it was

Speaker 5 Nate who blogged it. Okay.

Speaker 5 He said he did like three hours of research, said it was real.

Speaker 1 Good okay. Is that it?

Speaker 5 And then everyone on the internet, I typed in LeBron James Jr. fake and there wasn't any proof that it was fake.

Speaker 1 You've done your research. I'm going to agree with you.

Speaker 1 It was real.

Speaker 4 I'm going to LexisNexis this real quick and get to the bottom of it. But that sounds, I mean, that's good enough for me.

Speaker 4 So wait, when you say that he was talking all kinds of reckless, what was he saying?

Speaker 5 He was doing like an impression talking about these hoes ain't loyal. Like these like.
It was weird. It was for, you know.

Speaker 5 Talking reckless for a 14-year-old, you know, that's something, you know, dad to dad. He's probably going to have to have a sit down with him.
Yeah, hey, big time. Bronny Jr.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, here, here, pull up a glass of Vino.

Speaker 5 I don't want people to judge you off my name, but also, like, you have my name. So, try not to be so reckless online.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Yeah, your name.

Speaker 4 Keep your name out of my mouth.

Speaker 1 Right. Your name and my name, they're the same.
So you need to make sure your name is better than my name.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gulp. Leave your name.

Speaker 4 Better than I found it.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 5 But it is great. You know, you got to deal with your dad

Speaker 5 getting mad at you a little bit, but it's great for followers, great for engagement.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, this is also like what if you give a 14-year-old who is already kind of a weirdly celebrity in his own right an Instagram,

Speaker 1 it's going to probably happen like this. Like,

Speaker 1 this is how it goes down. Yep.
So, I don't really know, like, what else it's, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure one of MJ's sons had a dick pic that he deleted.

Speaker 1 I think Marcus Jordan put out a dick pic by accident, like, back in the day. That shit happens.

Speaker 1 When you're a famous son, like a failed son is a real thing. Oh,

Speaker 1 for a reason. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's the saying? It's like the first one builds it, the second one creates it,

Speaker 4 maintains it, the third one destroys it. Yes.
So I can't wait for Bronny III.

Speaker 1 Bronny III is going to be terrible at basketball. All right, PFT, what do you got?

Speaker 4 So my hot seat is Faces of Death.

Speaker 4 Because Rex Chapman's famous blocker charge Twitter account got got suspended today.

Speaker 4 Word on the street is that it was because he posted a video of a guy on a motorcycle getting into an accident and dying. The guy actually died in it.
So

Speaker 4 Twitter looks down on snuff films. You can, you know, all the Nazis that you want on there, but the second that you show an accident of a guy dying, boom, suspended.
So

Speaker 4 it was inevitable that this would happen to old Rex.

Speaker 4 And, I mean, I'd be lying if I said that there wasn't like a little bit of a market opportunity that I saw because nobody else is posting Blocker Charge. True.
So we could just take over that.

Speaker 1 That could be our brand.

Speaker 4 Check this out. Ready for this one? It's a little hot in the streets.
Blocker Charge, and it's a picture of that bottleneck on Mount Everest.

Speaker 1 Ooh, that's good. How about Blocker Charge? And it's a picture of Rex Chapman's suspended Twitter account.

Speaker 4 It's been done. I looked into that.

Speaker 4 That was my first thought. I was just thinking for Everest because above 8,000 meters is that's the death zone.
So it's definitely a block because that's like the restricted area.

Speaker 4 That's God's restricted area that high up on the mountain.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what the Mount Everest picture is starting to become? It's starting to become people like posting it, like, I will die on the like Kevin White Hill.

Speaker 1 I will die on thinking Kevin White's going to be a good

Speaker 1 player in the NFL. And it's just a picture of the Mount Everest of people that actually did die.
It's kind of a fun little internet thing that we've done

Speaker 1 where we just take real death and make jokes about it. Yeah.
And also take a point where it's like, hey, this mountain that is like one of the last untouched places by man now has a traffic jam. Cool.

Speaker 1 This whole fucking society is trash. Let's all just end it now.
That was.

Speaker 4 It reminded me of that.

Speaker 4 Did you ever read that book, Into Thin Air? It came out like 15 years ago. I saw it.

Speaker 4 Basically about this exact same thing where it's like Everest has become

Speaker 4 such a commodity right now. It's so easy to climb it.
If you have enough money, you can pay for a guide. That it's starting to get bottlenecks and people are just dying because they can't move.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 your body can't exist above a certain altitude. And so we learned our lesson for about 15 years and then we forgot it again.
Yes. So that's nice.

Speaker 1 Cool throne.

Speaker 4 Okay. My other hot seat is Fiji because U.S.
rugby is going to win this weekend and win the entire thing. Anyways, my cool throne is FIFA.

Speaker 4 FIFA is on the cool throne because you may have noticed a couple, maybe like a week ago, there was a big ticket snafu for the Women's World Cup where they were not seating people together.

Speaker 4 So if you bought a group of tickets, if you bought like four tickets for you and your family, it turns out that they were just basically scattered all over the stadium.

Speaker 4 Like FIFA was trying to do what the NFL commercials for football as family really have, and just have everybody sitting next to each other wearing different jerseys. But people have complained and

Speaker 4 it's been a big black eye for FIFA. So they have assured us, and I will take FIFA's word for this, that they are looking into correcting the orders right now.

Speaker 4 So if there's one organization out there that knows how to handle their shit, it's FIFA. This is like number 100 on their list right now of things to take care of right behind

Speaker 4 building stadiums that look like vaginas using slave labor. So, I think that as soon as they figure that one out, they'll figure out how to redistribute the tickets around the stadium.

Speaker 4 So, I have full confidence in FIFA to turn this around.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've got their hands full.

Speaker 1 They've got to figure out how to air condition the desert for 2022, 2022. Yeah, 2022.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of BTUs.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a long time from now.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat. I alluded to it.
The tease, The Rock. I'm putting Rock The Rock on my hot seat because I'm sick of him posting his cheat meals, being like, look how relatable this is, guys.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you noticed this, but like every month, Rock will post a huge pancake or something and be like, damn, look at this cheat meal I'm about to devour.

Speaker 1 And being like, everyone out there, you know what it's like to eat like shit. Yeah, Rock, we eat like shit every fucking day.

Speaker 1 You're not cool because you do, you eat a big pancake once every 30 months or 30 days and you can deadlift a thousand pounds and you spend your life in a fucking gym.

Speaker 1 I don't like when he tries to do that. It pisses me off.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, The Rock does have some pretty crazy cheat meals, though.
He goes back and forth.

Speaker 4 His posts are either him working out in like a really, really sweaty cement-walled gym, a cheat meal, or like a picture of his mom flying on his private jet talking about like what a great life he has that he can do this for his mom.

Speaker 4 He's really big on that. Just like keeping things in perspective.

Speaker 1 I just don't like when he's like, oh, yeah, you guys know what it's like to have a cheat meal like this.

Speaker 1 No, Rock, I actually do not know what it's like to eat like shit while I have a six-pack and be like, don't worry, tomorrow I'll still have a six-pack. So, no, I don't know what it's like.

Speaker 4 What's crazy is that Rock's cheat meals are so big that eating one of those would actually be a workout for me.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think I would burn more calories eating one of his like 500 bacon slice

Speaker 4 gravy cheesecake meals that he does than I would consume by eating it. I don't know how the math works out on that, but I'm pretty confident in it.

Speaker 1 Stay woke. I don't even think he eats it.

Speaker 1 Just saying. I like that.
He's throwing it out there. He takes a picture of it.

Speaker 4 That's how The Rock makes everybody else in worse shape than him.

Speaker 4 He's got everyone convinced that you have to have a giant cheat meal, and so they all copy what he does to get his body, but he just throws it in the trash. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, my cool throne, brands, because Sports Illustrated was bought by a company called Authentic Brands Group. I don't know anything about them, but that's a fucking fire name.

Speaker 1 It's really good. It tells you everything you need to know.
Like, what do they do? Brands. How do they do it? Authentically.
Yeah. It's a group of them.

Speaker 4 When you have a company that's basically called like real shit, not fake, then I'm like, yeah, no, those guys have their act together.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just like for a minute there, you're like, wait, who bought them? Oh, it's the authentic brands guys.
That's right.

Speaker 1 They'll keep this shit 100. Hunt it.
Yeah. Hunt it.

Speaker 4 I do like how they're looking into establishing a line of medical clinics, sports illustrated branded medical clinics. I like that.

Speaker 1 Got to get that

Speaker 1 drip down from the Theranos dock. People are all about the medical community now.

Speaker 4 Well, it's that. And also, just if you put sports on anything, guys are more likely to go see a doctor.

Speaker 4 So as of like 50 years ago, there were dudes just walking around with tears in their abdominal wall until we we started calling them sports hernias. Right.
That

Speaker 4 every guy's like, oh, I got a sports hernia. You got to go to the doctor, get that checked out for my sports injury.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's genius when you think about it. They're like, who's been crushing it lately? Sports clips.

Speaker 4 Okay, what about sports doctors?

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 4 Remind me of it. I had an idea a couple years ago about a sports funeral home.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ooh, that's good too.

Speaker 1 But I like the sports doctors because you can show up and they'll be like, hey, you have the same thing as Derek Rose, but maybe you'll be back sooner than him. Yeah.
Little test of your manhood.

Speaker 1 All right. We got to get to our interviews.
We got Zach Efron. We got R.J.
Hampton after him. Before we do that,

Speaker 1 Zach Efron, awesome time with him. We have a burger taste test review coming out on Thursday on his channel, on his YouTube channel.
It's hilarious. Hank and I watched it.
It's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Also, a quick shout-out because

Speaker 1 one of the guys Zach lives with put us onto this tequila, Nosotros tequila. It's SoCal tequila.
We've been drinking it since. You got to check it out.
Nosotros tequila. So it was a fun time.

Speaker 1 Burger taste test review. Nosotros tequila.
Check them out.

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Speaker 4 That was fucked up.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're here. We're in the van.
We're in LA. We're in SoCal.
We're with our friend Zach Efron. In a van.
In a van

Speaker 1 down by the river.

Speaker 1 But Zach Efron, who needs no introduction, but we'll introduce him anyway. He's a heartthrob.
He's an actor. I love that heartthrob comes first.
Thank you, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 He started as a heartthrob. So we'll start with that.
But before we get to all of that, you are also

Speaker 1 the most random and star-struck award-winning listener a part of my take that i have ever uh heard and i think same with you pft when we heard that you actually listened to the show i was like are you serious so that doesn't happen often so that's pretty cool i think it does happen more often no it doesn't it does not yeah usually it's like really i find that hard to believe it's like a backup offensive lineman yeah will be like hey man big fan i'm like that show awesome right i okay i mean i see what you're okay triple a shortstop that was

Speaker 1 Dude, I love the show. We're glad that you're going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I appreciate it.
Yeah, I am Lister. You guys keep it super real.
And so that's why I like listening to you. You keep one on all the time.

Speaker 1 So I just don't, there's so much fake in the industry. Like the more, the only thing that really we have left is the truth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm saying the more people tell it, like you guys do, and bring things out into the open, I just think it's so much more fun.

Speaker 1 It's a better world to live in to fucking confront shit and take it head on. When you look at me right there, dude, your eyes are sick.

Speaker 1 Thanks, man. Love you.
You too. You got a very pretty hazel

Speaker 1 hazel green color. Yes are fucking sick.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 I just see my own eyes.

Speaker 1 It's a trick. I'm trying to get you to see your own eyes and you're like,

Speaker 1 you're like, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got beautiful eyes, PFT.

Speaker 4 You're just looking at yourself. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 All right. So we've hung out with Zach for a little bit now.
We did a burger taste test review to go subscribe

Speaker 1 to his new YouTube channel. So

Speaker 1 we've spent some time with you. We want to quickly do like the career arc.
I know it might bore some people.

Speaker 1 I'll be super quick and I'll make it actually internet. I'll tell you guys whatever you want to hear.
All right, all right. Yeah.
Started as a heartthrop. Yes, definitely, for sure.

Speaker 1 Was that a mind fuck?

Speaker 1 You have no idea. It was like,

Speaker 1 yeah. Everyone's just walking around being like, you're the hottest thing ever.

Speaker 1 Basically, like one day I walked out of a very cheap,

Speaker 1 well, I mean,

Speaker 1 an apartment like upstairs in the valley and like there was a camera guy, a paparazzi

Speaker 1 and He just started taking pictures of me and I was in my sandals walking across the street Were you on casting couch? What is going on? No, I was on high school musical counsel. Okay, oh yeah

Speaker 1 I filmed this TV movie film this like TV movie and I was very I was a little bit shy of it So I didn't tell anyone the night before it came out

Speaker 1 One of my friends was like hey go on YouTube or go on sorry not to go go on go on the music charts and I went on like iTunes and all the different music charts and my name was was on them.

Speaker 1 And I was like, What the f is going on? Right. How old are you?

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 17. Fuck.
That's pretty crazy. That's mine.
I think we're 18, maybe 18.

Speaker 1 No, no, yes, 17. And then after that, from that day forward, they were about two weeks where it was kind of interesting that there were dudes following you.
And then after that,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's interesting. You're like, hey, man, I'm feel kind of cool.
I can't deny there was that moment of like, hey, I'm famous.

Speaker 1 Or there's that feeling of self-satisfaction. That fades so fast.
And you,

Speaker 1 at least for me, the most important thing from that point forward has

Speaker 1 been that I learned this lesson. Just keep your head down, move forward.
In this city,

Speaker 1 Hollywood's very, very hard. It's hard to navigate as a teenager.

Speaker 1 Growing up, you're surrounded by every chance to get out and take a shortcut. And that's why I liken it to sports and athletes because when I meet and talk with athletes at the gym, like pro athletes.

Speaker 1 Right. Like I'll be, you know, ah, geez.
A lot of the guys that did the combine came in and trained at the same gym I was at.

Speaker 4 I talk to them and I see a little bit of what I,

Speaker 1 that, what I just call like that magic, that curiosity. Yep.

Speaker 1 You guys have it? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you guys have it.
Have you got the magic? Hyper focus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have the magic. It's also in your, it's also in the way you guys talk.
Yeah. Okay.
Yes. Clearly.
Damn. So did you get good at magic?

Speaker 4 Did you get good at losing the tail? Like losing the paparazzi?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just like laughing how many stories i could tell you yeah on and on this was right between uh so twitter wasn't really out yet like an instagram wasn't really out yet so we're in the era of like in between

Speaker 1 okay and uh people were starting to join twitter and starting to join instagram but i was kind of just not into it i don't like i don't like phones really i'm not really a phone guy i like i don't like electronic i like

Speaker 1 you know you like to be you like to be outdoors chill chill i like to just chill

Speaker 1 yeah i like to just like i just like to chill. I'm really low-key and I love Siebs.
I very much learned how to act post-that movie. So then it was like Rocketships, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a Rocket Ship to Fame, which I would say fame is not something that

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 something I really cherish. I think the money is important.
Yes. The money is necessary because it helps you protect yourself, those around you.

Speaker 1 It helps you foster more creative ideas to help things down the road and stuff like that. But fame in and of itself, I never felt deserving of fame.

Speaker 1 I felt performances deserve recognition when they're good, and they couldn't be ripped apart when they're bad. Mine gets ripped apart no matter what.
But I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 I like to choose interesting, different, weird stuff. It's kind of the only power we have.
Yeah, I don't think that anybody

Speaker 4 agree with people who aspire to be famous. I think that that leads people into all sorts of trouble.
It is. You're fucked up if that's

Speaker 1 the goal is that people know you. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, a lot of LA draws a lot of people that want to be known.

Speaker 1 And for we, even I admit it, for a moment when you're young, you have that moment when you think, man, wouldn't it be cool to be like famous and rich? Right. And now I like

Speaker 1 having been a part of both of those things

Speaker 1 to whatever extent I have been,

Speaker 1 I think like the most important lesson is like what Nipsey Hussle says in his songs. He's like, he says,

Speaker 1 first you get the money, then you get the bitch. You get the bitches.

Speaker 1 Then you get the respect. Okay.

Speaker 1 Then you get first you get the money, then you get the respect.

Speaker 1 Then you get a pre-release of the Madden, New Madden, then you make it before everyone else.

Speaker 4 Yeah, then you tell the truth.

Speaker 1 Think about rap music right now. Yeah.
Who are the guys that we love?

Speaker 4 I'm a big fan of Bone Thugs.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, Bonthugs. Bone Mugs.
Okay, well,

Speaker 1 they were the original guys to do it.

Speaker 4 They told the truth about what they were actually doing.

Speaker 1 yep so perspective is a whole nother interesting yeah like my perspective on this town is completely different than anyone else i know things about things that nobody should ever want to know about so what at what point in your career and and also might want to know right yeah

Speaker 1 by gross i meant like yeah your book yeah yeah i do really want to hear all those stories that you can't tell yeah at what point in your career did you kind of not fall out of love of like the whole fame and everything but kind of fall out of love out of of it you know what i mean like hey this is dude the second it happened man it made me so vain i just felt i was really like it was you had that terrible haircut yeah remember that yeah so that was a depressing time girls love that yeah i thought it was try hard but really what it was is every day there would be cars lined up and down the street and i would just get out of my car and a caravan of them would follow

Speaker 1 so one day i just literally put a hat on like i sat i went and i met with leo diaprio nice

Speaker 1 it was that was i don't even mind dropping that one no that wasn't i'm very very proud of you. If you can drop Leo, you drop Leo.
No, and I'm not even dropping. I'm picking him back up.

Speaker 1 Leo's right here. Leo gave me some advice.

Speaker 1 And he was like, look, dude, like, you know, because I showed up at his house and he looked at the security and saw how many paparazzi were like, I've never seen that many paparazzi.

Speaker 1 This is going to change. And he was right.
Eventually, I kept my head down. I just didn't let it get to me.
I started covering up more.

Speaker 1 And finally, I realized that the reason they were taking pictures is because I was giving them the photos, and that was a part of me

Speaker 1 being

Speaker 1 seen. Yeah, right, right, kind of attractively to attention.
Then, when I really didn't want it, all I had to do was just not do it. I now I don't really like dress up, and I got a premiere.

Speaker 1 I like, just like, I don't really give a fuck anymore. I'm like, I reached a Mad Damon phase, but I feel like I'm almost a little bit more you have, yeah.

Speaker 4 I like the hair, though. So, what is what's the story with the hair?

Speaker 1 Is it like a

Speaker 4 Art Alasakis from Everclear type thing?

Speaker 1 I like it. That's a good drive.

Speaker 4 No, you are like, this is very SoCal of you.

Speaker 1 You're a SoCal boy through and through. You're very SoCal.

Speaker 4 Have you ever left the little bubble of Southern California?

Speaker 1 No, I'm Central California. Oh, so.
Oh, sorry. So north of Santa Barbara, like

Speaker 1 Royo Grande, San Luis Obispo.

Speaker 4 How far away from here is that?

Speaker 4 Three hours to drive the speed limit, three eight and a half. Have you ever lived outside of the state of California?

Speaker 1 So this is another question. What insinuates live?

Speaker 1 What's the time difference I'd say more than two months. Oh, then I've lived in Canada.

Speaker 1 Oh filming a movie. Yeah, I've lived a lot of places if that's two if two months then I've lived in New York an apartment a New York okay Canada

Speaker 1 Georgia okay

Speaker 1 So you've been out there, but you are you're volunteering also Europe

Speaker 1 Europe

Speaker 1 a lot Europe I'll stay for Europe I stayed for four months

Speaker 1 oh man we did a month on the Isle of Man what was that for it was for a movie called me and uh Me and Orson Welles. Ooh, okay.
I've seen that. No.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 1 that one's actually a good film. Richard Linkback.
What about Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates?

Speaker 1 That's our boss.

Speaker 1 Dude, I really love it. We love that movie.
Did you? Yes. One, because it's our boss.
But two, I actually really liked it. We did a ton of promotion for it.

Speaker 1 Kendrick is the shit. Okay, so let's bring it up.
So is

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 the fact that Anna Kendrick followed and unfollowed me so fast. She did? Yeah.
Can you text her right now and just be like, hey, what was up with that?

Speaker 1 She followed me on a Tuesday night and then unfollowed me by like Wednesday at like 8 a.m.

Speaker 1 I didn't understand what?

Speaker 6 Well, I talked about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I was very starstruck. I love Anna Kendrick.
So just be like, hey, did you, hey, that guy, Big Cat, did you mean to unfollow him?

Speaker 1 It would be really helpful for me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And say, hey, you're with me right now this would be a picture of him so that it yeah

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 she unfollowed me so fast man it hurt so bad because i'm a huge anna kendrick fan all right i'm texting all right hey hey i'm i'm with big cat uh why did you why did you unfollow him

Speaker 1 hey should i say are Is everything cool with you guys? Yeah, it's everything cool.

Speaker 1 She's the best.

Speaker 1 She really is. She really is.
So I love Mike and Dave Needs wedding dates,

Speaker 1 not only because it's Peter Chern and joint, but then we went to it and I was like, fuck yeah. I've actually, you want to know this little fun facts?

Speaker 1 Shout out to Peter Chern and for making some cool movies. Yes.
Shout out to Peter Chern. All right,

Speaker 1 let's get back on track because the one thing I do like about you is you, like, we stepped in your house and within like five seconds, we were in a deep conversation. So

Speaker 1 we've gone through the beginning of the career. You're at a point now.
You just just finished

Speaker 1 all the promo and everything for your new movie, Ted Bundy, Netflix. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 But you also said after, like, you are at a point now in your career where you will pick the things that only you want to do. How liberating is that?

Speaker 1 Like, does that feel awesome to be like, hey, I can just do what I want to do? Which is really the only power that you have as an actor is to say yes or no,

Speaker 1 yes or no to a movie because

Speaker 1 I want to apply myself

Speaker 1 to movies that are good. I want to make the best movies that you, that men, women, all of us enjoy.

Speaker 1 I believe the key ingredients of those are like sincerity, love, honesty,

Speaker 1 also mixed in with fucking badass action and really cool, exciting visual effects. But there's got to be

Speaker 4 killing like 100 people.

Speaker 1 And I watched Sean Wake last night, actually. The movies are awesome.

Speaker 1 The less your lead character talks. It's a great way to turn like sliced lungs.

Speaker 1 You know, he doesn't talk that much yeah right but when he does it means it's important yeah exactly i agree it means something so what kind of movies are you trying to get into these days um

Speaker 1 i'm not trying to get into i kind of just wait until i meet with a director and we see eye to eye and go

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 usually when I meet a director, the first thing is, you're very different than I thought you would be. And I go, thank you for saying that.
They go, no, I really mean that. You're really different.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to be an asshole. It's almost 10 for 10.
Right. Because I just

Speaker 1 uh it's part of it's part of the territory that comes with being um

Speaker 1 very good looking i know i think with me at this certain time or being good looking maybe yeah

Speaker 1 seth rogan tells you seth rogan told me straight up the first time i met him i was like oh seth and i was so nervous and i was at a party at the hollywood some

Speaker 1 god i was like 18 maybe and i saw seth rogan it's like my hero right seth is a good actor not only is he funny he is a good actor. Like, I love Seth Rogen.

Speaker 1 And I see Seth. He's my hero.

Speaker 1 I just started acting and I walked up to him and I was like, excuse me, at this, one of these parties, I didn't want to be there. I had to go do a red carpet.

Speaker 1 I was just getting drunk by myself at the bar.

Speaker 1 Like just sitting like miserable.

Speaker 1 And I saw Seth Rogan pass and I was like. Shit.
And I took a shot. I remember I walked up and I was like, excuse me.
And he didn't stop. And I was like, wait, Seth, Seth Rogan.
And he turned around.

Speaker 1 He looked at me. He was like, Oh, hey, man, what's up, Zach? How's it going? Right.
I was like, Yeah, I was like, Hey, and he goes, Oh, hey, and then turns to leave.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Oh, wait, wait, can I talk to you for a Zach? And he's like, Oh,

Speaker 1 fuck.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, man. What's up? What's going on? I'm like, I just want to tell you, I think you're fantastic, man.

Speaker 1 Like, as a writer, as a producer, and as an actor, I think that you make things funny by your sincerity. And And you're a good actor.
And I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 And thank you for keeping that alive in movies. And then he literally there was like a 10 second pause and Seth goes, God damn it.

Speaker 1 And I was like, what? He goes,

Speaker 1 fuck it. I just, I fucking, I just wanted to hate you.

Speaker 1 You realize that you fucking, you represent literally everything

Speaker 1 that I fucking hate. And

Speaker 1 now you're actually nice too? Like, fuck that. Jesus.
God, can you be an asshole? You're supposed to be an asshole. You can't do all those things and be nice.
Fuck. God damn it.
And I was like, Jesus.

Speaker 1 And I was like,

Speaker 1 I didn't know what was going on. I was like, thank you for, I'm just like loving you.

Speaker 1 Thanks for not thinking I'm an asshole. Yeah, that's a huge compliment.

Speaker 4 Is that weird, though? Because I feel like you probably run into that a lot where people judge you. before they meet you all the time.

Speaker 1 Based on your character, that's your life. Yeah, based on your character.
It's basically... It's the opposite way that people get to meet you guys.
You meet you first with a sincere talk.

Speaker 1 Right, right. People meet you.
True. And that's why I think you gravitate towards people because you're hidden the authenticity.

Speaker 1 I like to think that that authenticity is inside my performances because I'm really going to different places. And that's where my authenticity and my work goes.
Your method?

Speaker 1 Not fully method. Well, I hope not.
You see the serial killer fucking way.

Speaker 1 Like Daniel DeLew.

Speaker 1 Going fully method can be like, no, I'm not knocking actors who go fully method.

Speaker 1 It's just not practical. Like, like, it's, I've done it for stuff before.

Speaker 1 I usually last like three days. Like, for Mike and Dave Need wedding dates, you were like, God, I really need a date.
No, that one I was method. Okay.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 But you did talk about the recent movie, the Ted Bunny movie. I forget the full name.

Speaker 1 Wicked, evil, and vile. I watched it.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Shockingly evil, or extremely wicked, shockingly evil and vile. Okay, so you talked about having to meditate to get out of the Ted Bundy character.
Yeah, like that. That's fucking deep, man.

Speaker 1 That's deep. Not to get out of the character.
It's not to get clapped.

Speaker 1 But to like shed, like, I'm sure it's pretty dark vibes to have to play a serial killer.

Speaker 1 The movie only portrays him as the world saw him. So.

Speaker 1 And the way that others saw him. So he was seen as a likable guy,

Speaker 1 your normal everyday dude, which is how he was able to

Speaker 1 wow the world with

Speaker 1 committing so many murders we don't know, we still don't know.

Speaker 1 And rest in peace to his victims. And,

Speaker 1 you know, we made the movie in their honor and in their memory. But

Speaker 1 he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes until the point where he fired his own... He escaped jail twice, was murdering people consistently.
if the estimates could be in the thousands we don't know

Speaker 1 and the entire time he's playing his own def uh defense on a public trial on tv it was the first time a camera was let in inside a uh an actual courtroom courtroom yeah to film the trial yeah i mean it was it was it was a good and at the end judge coward actually said that yeah see them you can see that real ted bundy yeah sitting there and the guy says you know what you're you're you're a nice guy You seem like a bright young man.

Speaker 1 I would have loved to have you practice under me, but you chose a different path. That's heartbreaking, son.
You had everything, you know, that really happened.

Speaker 1 That was Ted.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. So the moral of the story for me was to, I didn't want to do what everybody wanted me to do for the last 10 to 12 years, which is switch it up, go dark.
Instead, I did every other thing.

Speaker 1 I tried to like learn the game first.

Speaker 1 So I like laid my board out and like set and I just practiced on different movies. I did a couple independent films.
I only wanted to work with directors who knew what they were doing.

Speaker 1 So I could learn how to act. And I learned about acting.
I worked with Burr Steers on 17 again. And we did another movie called Charlie St.
Cloud. I've seen him.
You have.

Speaker 1 You've seen all these movies. Awesome.
Cool. Thanks, everybody.
We own all of them on VHS. We're actually in DVD.
I love you guys. I love you, David.
And Laserdisc. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't forget Laserdiscs. Yeah, don't forget.
Forgotten Medium.

Speaker 1 Don't forget. Please get the DVD hard copies.

Speaker 1 Because the hard copies we get. Percentages of the creation.

Speaker 1 Don't stream.

Speaker 1 Do not stream. No, stream.
Netflix. Netflix stream.
Stream. Do stream.
Do stream. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 Give us one product that we should buy.

Speaker 1 Zach Effronzi. Subscribe to YouTube.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there you go. Subscribe to Zach Effron.

Speaker 4 We actually did a burger taste test with you.

Speaker 1 We did. We did.
And that's like an epic thing to do. It was probably the last one you'll ever have.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also canceled it. Also, I mean, like, you guys are always talking about burgers.
And what's the best burger?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And food.
You guys, I love food too.

Speaker 1 No, you're plant-based. Yeah, but still on food.

Speaker 1 I say plant-based, not vegan.

Speaker 4 What's the difference?

Speaker 1 Vegan means I will never touch anything with an animal product. But like, I have rainbows on.
These are leather. Oh,

Speaker 1 so you can wait. But you ate a burger, so what does that mean that you're plant-based? I'll have a piece of meat.

Speaker 1 If I'm going to die, or if I'm at a Wednesday night sushi thing and haven't eaten, I'll have fish and stuff like that. I just don't eat heavy amounts of protein just because it's healthy and all that.

Speaker 4 But how do you stay jacked?

Speaker 1 Do you know about intermittent fasting? I've never tried it. It sounds awful.
No, no, it's not that. No, it's the easiest thing in the world.

Speaker 1 Explain to me. You just don't eat for longer in the morning and a little bit longer before bed.

Speaker 4 Okay. So what's my hours?

Speaker 1 Okay, so like you have 12 hours

Speaker 1 that you should not eat throughout the day. Like

Speaker 1 during your nighttime sleep cycle, say you have your dinner and your dinner ends at 7 p.m. You should not have anything in your body except water

Speaker 1 through the night.

Speaker 1 But then after that, you've got to do like a full day. A full day of fasting.
A full day of fasting on like one day a week or once every two weeks. I missed that part.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you missed that part. Because what I would do is I'd fast and then on the eight hours I could eat, I'd go to Poundtown.
Yes, I'd eat everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, but so yeah, don't go, yeah, don't do that. I had like 6,000 calories in like six hours.
No, and also on your

Speaker 1 on your cheat days,

Speaker 1 if you guys can make

Speaker 1 more of your meals inside the

Speaker 1 unit healthy, like you say you guys get Thai food like every night.

Speaker 1 If you can make that, start with something simple. If you can make one of your meals a day a salad, always, one a day,

Speaker 1 or one day. Don't make friends with salads.
I know, dude, I fucking hate them too, dude.

Speaker 1 It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 Who likes them? No one.

Speaker 1 Then Then you know what? You, you're a person. No, I don't.
Dude, I honestly, I don't even like the taste. It's an acquired taste.
Do you think that fucking like... You gotta stay ripped.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you think beer tastes good?

Speaker 1 I love it now, but it was an acquired taste. Right, right.
Now I fucking,

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 a lot of things, but you have to try. You have to try things for a little while.

Speaker 4 Okay, so how long is it going to take me to do this whole intermittent fasting thing and then be shredded?

Speaker 1 How long to look like that? How many days? How are you going to,

Speaker 1 if you come and spend the summer out here in Cali, how about I could show you guys? I could what's more read in a summer? Yeah, six pack in a summer of training. Uh-huh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you do you train at all? Here, you take a look at it today. Here's your palette.
Yeah, look at the artist.

Speaker 1 What's more impressive having a deep belly button or six-pack?

Speaker 1 Put your finger in this belly button. Put your finger in that belly button.
Oh, look at that. Yeah.
All the way up. He's putting his finger.
Oh, second number. Yeah, that's bad.
That's really bad.

Speaker 1 That's how

Speaker 1 it's kind of like.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's better. Wait,

Speaker 1 Wait, honest question. Honest question.
I can feel at the bottom of my balls. Honest question.

Speaker 1 Does that thing stop? No. You literally tickled the bottom of my balls.
Why is it wet?

Speaker 1 Well, it gets wet throughout the day. Yeah, no, it does get wet throughout the day.
It gets a little lint. You know, I store stuff in there.
Yeah, it gets a little wet.

Speaker 1 What's the weirdest thing you pulled out of there?

Speaker 1 I could put probably a decent amount of change in there.

Speaker 4 I mean, honestly, the real answer is probably Zach Efron's finger.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's exactly the answer.
There it is.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 I heard a story about. You can watch that later.

Speaker 4 I heard a story that you got

Speaker 1 a Barry Bonds home run ball. Ooh.

Speaker 4 Yeah. From Charlie Sheen.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 I did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How did that work out?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 basically, my first publicist

Speaker 1 that I worked with out here, he's still a dear friend of mine,

Speaker 1 was Charlie Sheen's old publicist.

Speaker 1 So it's a full-time job. Charlie found out that I was a fan for my birthday one day.
He gave me me a Barry Bonds autographed baseball. Okay.

Speaker 1 And he just gave it to me. Right.
And I was like, I can't accept this. Like, no way.
I can't accept it. And I refused to take it.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, okay, I'm going to hang on to it.

Speaker 1 And then I called everyone. I was like, guys, it's been six months.
I've got Barry Bonds baseball. I think this is a legit gift.

Speaker 1 And then about six months later, I got a call

Speaker 1 from somebody saying like,

Speaker 1 do you still have that Barry Bonds

Speaker 1 autographed baseball?

Speaker 1 You mean, and it wasn't just anyone. It was one that was hitting to the bay.
It was like the 75th.

Speaker 1 It was the record-breaking ball. Okay.
Yeah. Sign.
Like sign. This is no joke.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this ball's worth millions of dollars. I knew Charlie was going to want it back.
So I kept it exactly where I put it.

Speaker 1 And sure enough, one day he called and was like, hey, man,

Speaker 1 I think I kind of want that back. And I was like, I totally understand.
I totally get it, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I knew it was coming.

Speaker 1 I never took anything off it. I did tell a couple people that I owned it for a while.
And I did. I did for about a year and a half or so.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I have met Barry Bonds.

Speaker 1 And this was, I think it was before I got that ball. And he signed a ball for me, too.
And I have a coffee mug with me and Barry Bonds on it. Like a picture of you guys? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you have a whole autograph collection, though. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 My baseball autograph collection goes back super far. That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah. I have like all the San Francisco Giants, Jeff Kent, like.
Pavel Sandoval.

Speaker 1 I have a Sandoval for sure. Tim Linsecum, who the freak.
I think we got Linsicum. Dylan and I waited for Linsecum for

Speaker 1 dead. Dylan might have got...
I think Dylan got Lincoln. Dylan is Zach's brother.
My little brother, yeah, yeah. Dusty Baker?

Speaker 1 Oh, Dusty. Dusty Baker's son? Yo, I want to hear a good story.
This is Dusty Baker for you.

Speaker 1 Can I tell a story about Dusty Baker? Yeah, you can. It hopefully doesn't end with him just letting pitchers die and then pulling pitchers and just doing really fucked up shit and losing players.

Speaker 1 No, this is actually a good thing that

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 it shows a little about him. I was a kid, like, you know,

Speaker 1 I had no plans to be an actor. I thought I was going to be a doctor.
I was just trying to get good grades in school and do stuff like that. I didn't know what I wanted to be.

Speaker 1 But I loved baseball, and we would drive four and a half hours to sleep in our sleeping bags on my dad's friend's couch to catch double headers.

Speaker 1 And if the Giants made it to the playoffs, we would drive down and

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 it was just me, my little brother, my dad. We would just go scalp tickets.
Like, we wouldn't get it, go in if it was any more than like $15. Right.

Speaker 1 But we would get down early and we would get the foul balls and we'd have them sign the foul balls. And I got a lot of the Giants.

Speaker 1 So did you meet Dusty Baker?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I met Dusty Baker.

Speaker 1 I was waiting outside of

Speaker 1 the spot where they all drive out. Right, right.
And there's a gaggle of other autograph collectors whom I've now come to see the other side of why.

Speaker 4 Adult male autograph collectors are the weirdest people.

Speaker 1 Weirdos, right?

Speaker 4 Like a 40-year-old with a suitcase.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. I see them all the time.

Speaker 1 They mean well. It is an awkward inner thing there.
You know, they're going to sell it or something. You know, like you.

Speaker 1 But I do like you do, as a kid, you do like the person. So Dusty Baker pulls out on his chop, like a big chopper, and he cruises by and he sees me and he goes,

Speaker 1 excuse me. Hey, you're Zach Ephraim.
No, no, no. I was like, excuse me.
I had bleached hair.

Speaker 1 I was like, excuse me. Hey, Dusty,

Speaker 1 excuse me, Dusty Baker, Mr. Dusty Baker.

Speaker 1 Can you come over?

Speaker 1 And he's like, I have to go to church. I'll be back in one hour.
If you're here in one hour, I will sign you.

Speaker 1 I'll sign an autograph. I'll sign an autograph for you.
I was like, okay. I've been here in an hour.
Right. I waited.
I saw it, ran into all those other, a bunch of other players.

Speaker 1 And then we're getting ready to leave. We're the last kids waiting in the parking lot.
The sun's going down in San Francisco. It's just on the sitting sidewalk.

Speaker 1 It was very, like, in the movie mid-90s.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I'm out front. Like, you know, and uh, and Dusty Baker came back and he

Speaker 1 said he liked my blonde hair because I had spiky blonde hair. And he and

Speaker 1 which comes back to the very end of the story. Yeah.
Uh, signed balls for my brother, myself, and my dad, who are like lifelong Giants fans. And then

Speaker 1 that was, it was just pretty awesome that he went all the way, he went to church and then came back

Speaker 1 just to a bar. Well, that's the perfect.
I'll be right back. Yeah, that's the perfect Dusty Baker story.

Speaker 1 He was gone for an hour and he came all the way back to do that. And he was dressed the same.
Like, he didn't go home and change or anything. Right.

Speaker 1 He literally ran out to make it to church with his family. And then he came back.

Speaker 1 That's the perfect Dusty Baker story, too, because it's like he is the nicest guy, and by all accounts, everyone loves him. But man, what an idiot.

Speaker 1 Like, could have just signed your ball right then and there, like, maybe 10 seconds, never had to come back. Yeah, well, the problem is there were a lot of

Speaker 1 stuff. And the only reason I like Dusty Baker.
The only reason that he stopped is because I went up to him and I said, I was like, please, Mr. Dusty Baker, and he looked at,

Speaker 1 he was like, if you're here in one hour, I'm not sure. That's actually a cool story.
So it was really cool.

Speaker 4 It's a very cool story. And you're a fan of the Saints, which I think those fans are, they love the fucking sport.
They are like crazy. And they're also, they just know how to have a good time.

Speaker 4 And you know Sean Payton, right?

Speaker 1 I know Sean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do know Sean Payton. We know him too.
Yeah. He's Sean Payton is our buddy.
Yeah, dude. Yeah.
He gave us some wine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of people. He's a drink up boys.
A lot of drink up boys. We're like fiance or coach.
Yeah. Yes, coach.
Yes. Yes, coach.
Yeah, he's looking good, man. He lost some weight.

Speaker 1 CrossFit.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I was filming a movie called

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 the lucky one and i had uh seen it you seen it really geez man all right you i haven't seen it

Speaker 1 i bought it five times on i'm thanks for not saying what you think about it

Speaker 1 but uh but

Speaker 1 during that period uh i was i i just hit my own funny bone nice

Speaker 1 um really good reflexes i was sitting on the couch and this is back when yeah it was like eight ten years ago yeah

Speaker 1 tracked it again yeah don't tears

Speaker 1 i fucking love dude zach i love you, man. Thank you.
Your vibe, like, we're just, it just goes everywhere. I fucking love it.
This is like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 You, when you're like, I don't want to be Hollywood famous, like, it's genuine because that's from all of our conversations we've had in the last three hours, not including on, or including this podcast, it's like, yeah, you're just, you're just a dude.

Speaker 1 You are

Speaker 1 Callie Chill. Fuck yeah.
All right. Hey,

Speaker 1 Callie Chill. You are Callie Chill.
Wait, what were we talking about? Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 I was not becoming Zach. You were doing a movie.

Speaker 4 You were doing a a movie in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 We all went to celebrate for

Speaker 1 the rap party.

Speaker 1 We were Bourbon Street hungover. Like, I mean, like, carrying around those blue beads.
Like, it was like Friday night. So this was Saturday morning, couch, 11 a.m.

Speaker 1 Years and years ago.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it was a coded front door to get into my apartment. So only me, only I knew the code and only the cleaner knew the code.

Speaker 1 so uh or sorry my the guy who was living with me who's also my producing partner knew the code um

Speaker 1 so i heard the code get put in i heard the door get open i'm laying on the couch with i don't really care he like what it hall means i'm just in my boxer i'm just kicking back but i hear them step in my and if my friend and i hear like click clack click clack and i'm like

Speaker 1 are you wearing tap dance shoes and i'm like no those are heels and they're walking towards me and the couch is blocking someone walking from this side.

Speaker 1 And they're about to see me basically buck naked. So I grabbed a blanket and threw it over me.
And

Speaker 1 I suddenly go, like, excuse me. And she screams.
So, ah! I was like, what are you doing in my house? And she goes, I was told we could look at this house. And I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what do you, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, lady, I'm naked. And she's like, I'm sorry, we were told that we could view the house between,

Speaker 1 you know, two and 11 and four

Speaker 7 anytime.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I don't know. And she goes, well, maybe you know my husband.
This is Sean Payton. And

Speaker 1 I look to the front door. I'm wrapped in nothing but a blanket.
And his wife is two feet from me, like, like right next to where the bedrooms are. Right.
Right. And he's just walking in front of her.

Speaker 1 And he goes, hey, son.

Speaker 1 He's like, he's just like, he's just like, yeah. Hey, son.
I'm alright. I'm nice to meet you.
Yeah, big fan.

Speaker 1 And like immediately we became good friends.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the first time that you met him? Yeah, Yeah, first time I met him, I was in my underwear trying to hold a blanket together with his wife two feet away from me and shaking his head

Speaker 1 in New Orleans. And then we went next door to Emeralds and

Speaker 1 we ate the whole menu.

Speaker 1 And I'm a Stains fan.

Speaker 1 And now I'm a Stains fan for life. I also got to go to their practice field because Sean invited me to the practice field and I

Speaker 1 got to throw the football with Drew Brees.

Speaker 1 It was super fun.

Speaker 1 I've only thrown the football with a couple pro-quarterbreads. Like Bortles.
We can make that happen. Yeah.
I would love to work.

Speaker 1 I would love to. There's hard to catch sometimes, though, because they get right at your face.
Yeah, oh, yeah. You can get a reactor.
Just tell us. We got a few.
Matt Flynn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Saints, Josh Allen, he'll take your head off. So actually, we don't want that.

Speaker 4 Pat Mahomes probably also take your head off.

Speaker 1 I think any of them could probably take your head off. Yeah, yeah, we don't want to do that.
Then again, my head's pretty big. No, it's not.
You got a small head. Hey, man.
That was an actor.

Speaker 1 It was an actor joke. Oh, you're getting a big head.
Damn it. Fuck.
I'm kidding. I don't know.
I have very good situation. You're very good looking.
Don't beat yourself up about it.

Speaker 4 Do you ever get sick of people just telling you that you're very good looking?

Speaker 1 You

Speaker 1 guys, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm all up.

Speaker 1 This is going to sound like the cheesiest shit in the world, but

Speaker 1 I don't. I value it a lot less than I used to.
And every chance I have to demonstrate how little appearance matters for the rest of my life, I will fucking jump on it.

Speaker 1 Like, that's, that's, that's where my YouTube space and ventures out into the world and sort of create a space like

Speaker 1 the world full of very different people, and we need lots of different kinds of entertainment. And I think entertainment, just like sports, is,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's, it is our history. It is, it's what

Speaker 1 we are.

Speaker 1 History can't be rewritten. The movies that tell the stories are how generations learn about them.
How much are you guys learning about Winston Churchill from fucking Dunkirk?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 we've got some loose loft in front of us. You're going to try to stray from off the beach.

Speaker 1 That's all Dunkirk is. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 No, that was perfect.

Speaker 1 God, I was like there.

Speaker 1 Tom Hardy just did the baby. I'm thinking of all the other ones.
Running out of fuel. Oh, wait, Dunkirk? No, no, not Dunkirk.
No, we thought of Dunkirk. Yeah, idiots.
I'm thinking of Dunkirk.

Speaker 4 You're thinking of the one that's about our finest hours.

Speaker 1 Our finest hour. Is that it? That was yes.

Speaker 4 Our darkest hour.

Speaker 1 Our darkest hour. That's the hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I learned a church.

Speaker 1 Okay, but darkest hour,

Speaker 1 if you then watch, if you watch Darkest Hour, then you watch Dunkirk. Then Dunkirk will be honest.

Speaker 1 Does that make sense? Yes. Do you like our impression of Dunkirk?

Speaker 1 Tick. A bunch of civilians

Speaker 1 over here in the channel.

Speaker 1 You've killed my boy.

Speaker 1 He fell down the bloody stairs and you shoved him

Speaker 1 off a fucking shelter.

Speaker 1 The boats were supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 Why'd you knock out that little lad? How did we plan a war with all our soldiers' head?

Speaker 1 Why would we put all our soldiers over there?

Speaker 1 He's bleeding from his ear. His oil.
Oi! His oil is loose. Heaps of oil.
Hey, I'm from one direction. I shoot rifles.
Oh, yeah. That's good.
That's good.

Speaker 1 Zach, that's how I feel about the movie. Zach, this has been awesome.
We got one last. Well, I got one last thing we got to do.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not, we usually do the Seat Geek question where you put in promo code take and you get $10 off. This is the Seat Geek movie pitch.

Speaker 1 So you said earlier in this podcast, if you can look into a director's eyes and feel the movie they're trying to

Speaker 1 make, you're in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I, yeah, I mean, yes. So, that's that was something I said, but I'm boner dogs.
Yeah, so look into our boner dogs. Yeah, okay, boner dogs.
Yeah, very rare. Boner dogs.

Speaker 1 All right, I'll start. Okay, by the way, the in the eye thing isn't like you don't have to stare into my eyes.

Speaker 4 Oh, but you said in the eye. We're very good at people.

Speaker 1 I got it done.

Speaker 1 I've gathered your vibe just to be the picture. Okay, okay.
Boner dogs. Okay, I love it.
Here's how the name went. Go ahead.
Okay, so yes. It's ididarod.
Do you know the iditarod?

Speaker 1 They're running around in Alaska. It's

Speaker 1 snow dogs.

Speaker 1 Sidebar. Hold on.
Rush. What's the movie? Rush?

Speaker 1 Besides the fact that the dog has a boner.

Speaker 1 All right, so. Okay, boner dogs.

Speaker 1 Think about it. Boner dog.
What my colleague.

Speaker 1 I could help you ride it.

Speaker 4 What my colleague was trying to say, and trying to, the point he was trying to get across is the dog has a boner.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The dog has a boner.
Yeah. And so they all, it's a pack of sled dogs, right?

Speaker 4 And they go out, and they all make fun of this one boner dog because he's got a boner.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And none of the other dogs.
No, no, no, you've always got a boner dog.

Speaker 1 These flaccid little dog dicks that aren't red. And so they get lost out in the wilderness, right? Super lost.
And the only way they can get back is boner dog follows the trail of his boner

Speaker 1 to get back home.

Speaker 1 Like a little fucking rudder. Get this.

Speaker 4 Here's the best part.

Speaker 1 Brett lights up.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He wants to be creative.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll definitely put that in the script. Zach?

Speaker 1 I just am sensing Rudolph potential vibes. Oh, okay, yeah.
Constantly like that, yes.

Speaker 4 But here's the best part:

Speaker 4 the dogs are played by Kevin Hart. Are they voices? It could be animated.

Speaker 1 Either way, your call. Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 One more sidebar. One more side.
Kevin Hart. Jack Black.
Let's make sure that we give Zach the role of the boner. The lead.
Lead boner. No, the boner.
Okay.

Speaker 1 The voice of the boner. Read it.
Read it. Kevin Hart.

Speaker 4 Will Farrell. Adam Sandler.

Speaker 1 David Spade. Chris Rock, Kevin James, The Rock, Rock Schneider.

Speaker 4 The Rock actually plays.

Speaker 1 Guys, if you can cast that movie, just call it Boner Dogs and you win. Okay, but you're not going to be able to do that.
You can do anything. I'll be in it.

Speaker 1 We're going to give you the voice of the boner.

Speaker 1 Basically, it's being John Malkovich, being John Malkovich. Yep.
Except

Speaker 1 when you...

Speaker 1 I found a way to crawl into people's minds and give them boners. I got it.
I got it. This is your passion project.
This is your Medellin, Leigh Boner. But first, you got to make Aquaman boner dogs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 But then you can make Leigh Boner. I'm black and white.
I'm going to get Boner Dogs

Speaker 1 all of their IPs and stuff. Yeah.
And we're going to turn boner dogs into something. A real movie.

Speaker 1 We actually have a short short. Let's turn it into a short.
So I turn it into a short. Can I say that? Can we rewrite it? But don't call the boner short.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This boner is going to be very large. Oh, yeah, don't say it's a short, it's not gonna be like super large.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be a big talk about how big the boners are. I'm like Tom Cruise, guys.
I'm like, I'm like 5'9, but I look like maybe 6's. I look six foot.
Same true. Same.
Yeah, I'm the same height.

Speaker 1 He taught you how to drive a motorcycle. Oh, what? Tom Cruise taught you how to drive a motorcycle? Yeah, yeah.
I was like, what's up? I wasn't talking about PFT. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 No, Tom Cruise didn't teach me how to write. What did he teach you?

Speaker 1 Tom Cruise taught me more than most people. Motorcycles? No, he taught me how to be a badass.
Tom Cruise is...

Speaker 1 I do think that Tom Cruise is

Speaker 1 as far as movie stars go, he's my favorite of the movie star, movie stars.

Speaker 1 As opposed to

Speaker 1 he's the

Speaker 1 let me put it put that another way.

Speaker 1 He does the movie star

Speaker 1 as an actor the best way.

Speaker 1 He's a real

Speaker 1 movie star. Like he's J.J.
Abrams

Speaker 1 every time.

Speaker 1 He's like the Tom Brady. What you were talking about earlier, like the golden age of being famous and movie stars.
He's part of that era, not this era. He is.
No, like

Speaker 1 this new era.

Speaker 1 What's brilliant about it is we have free we on places like YouTube we have freedom of subscribing subscribe Zach Efron yeah we have YouTube subscribe Zach Efron youtube.com slash Zach Efron sure your page yeah yeah

Speaker 1 if you just

Speaker 1 if you search Zach Efron youtube.com slash boner dogs and then subscribe that's the way you get the good subs. Yeah, we talk someone's gonna make that and steal that from us.
No, damn it.

Speaker 1 No, they're not because we own the IP for it. God damn it.
Also, we have a

Speaker 1 pitch meeting for boner dogs, I think, tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Can we say that you're attached?

Speaker 1 Loosely attached. Loosely attached.
We're not gonna say you're in. We're gonna say you're loosely.

Speaker 1 You've had a conversation about it. No, not a lie.
No, not until you guys meet my agents tomorrow morning. So you guys will come in.
Okay. We're pitched to CAA

Speaker 1 at the office. That's right.
So far. Yep.
And then

Speaker 1 we'll pitch it, get it fully set up at a studio or at National.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 1 And then if I can get a hold of The Rock,

Speaker 1 he would be a big sign. He would be.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, we'll have to discuss.

Speaker 1 It's got to be a castle.

Speaker 1 I would rather aim a little higher than the rock, so I'm going to say no to the rock. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's really hard. That's called Art of the Deal Negotiator.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 Who else is? You know what?

Speaker 1 We'll throw The Rock in. Alright, fine.
I'll throw the rock in.

Speaker 1 Last, last question. Kevin Hart's good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, did Anna Kendrick text you back?

Speaker 1 Let's see. I'm just going to call her and put her on speakerphone.
Let me just call her real quick. Yeah.
Just be like, hey, I mean, there's got to be an explanation. You know what?

Speaker 1 Actually, though, there must be a question.

Speaker 1 I will say. Did she? Did she text you? No.
Oh, shit. Wait.

Speaker 1 No, she didn't. Anna Kendrick.
Let me just call her real quick. We'll cut it off.

Speaker 1 There's no way that she's going to. Why would you

Speaker 1 unfollow you? That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 Right. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Get to the bottom of it. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Anna's going to be like, Zach, what's up for? Please pick up.

Speaker 1 Anna.

Speaker 1 Fuck, that was such a fucking hit. Wow, what was that? See,

Speaker 1 that's why I'm like, is my phone.

Speaker 1 She curves me down.

Speaker 1 I always wonder if my phone's like tapped when that shit happened. Yeah, it is.
It probably is. I don't suppose that.

Speaker 4 That's what I always think.

Speaker 1 It's rung like 20 times, and she has a voicemail.

Speaker 4 Come on, Anna. She picked it up and she has just a speaker playing the sound of the ring.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Her number was about to play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'll just tell me if she texts you back.

Speaker 1 Before we... Oh, you're FaceTime? I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 She's going to be like, who's dead?

Speaker 1 No, it's actually just

Speaker 1 big cat. Followed him on, followed him.

Speaker 1 You know what, Zach? I'm going to end with this. We actually were trying to...
We have a good friend, Bill Bill Walton. We were trying to interview him today, or this week.

Speaker 1 I feel like you are the spirit of Bill Walton because this has been a conversation that's unlike any other interview we've done this week or pretty much ever since Bill Walton.

Speaker 1 It goes everywhere, gets deep, is funny. I fucking love it, man.
I love you. I love you guys too.
Thanks so much for having me. How nice you go, man.
Fuck yeah. I love you, buddy.

Speaker 1 And your eyes are so sick. Yeah, both of you guys, man.
Honestly, you're way cooler in person. Please tell me if Anna can be.
And you're pushing that beat. And you're so online.
You're so rad online.

Speaker 1 Tell them that.

Speaker 1 the best place ever.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Daniel. Thanks for coming in your creepy van.
Yes, very creepy. All right, please tell me.

Speaker 4 We should get back together sometime and do another reenactment of Dunkirk.

Speaker 1 That was the most fun I've ever had, actually. Yeah, well, we should.
If we watch it for five minutes, we'll get the

Speaker 4 they're commissioning the entire Navy. It's all the civilians going out to war.

Speaker 1 Turn around. It's too much you both.
Please just tell them, to text me if Anna Kendrick texts you. Dude,

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep on. She's an early riser.
The only reason we did this interview was try to get to Anna Kendrick. She's an early riser, so I'll hit you up tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Also, follow me on Instagram.

Speaker 1 I'll follow you on Instagram right now.

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Speaker 4 And now, RJ Hampton. And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 We got a very special guest in studio right now.

Speaker 1 He made his decision this morning. Five-star recruit, top 10 projected NBA draft for the 2020 draft.
RJ Hampton, who decided to say he's not going to college.

Speaker 1 He's going to play for the New Zealand Breakers, who, RJ, this is breaking news to you. I am part owner of the team.
Oh, I did not know that. So, yeah, I'm actually your boss for one year.

Speaker 1 I'm not actually. You know what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, my first thing is your boss is do whatever you want. We're a player's first team.
Players' first. Yeah, so you do whatever you want.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 If you ever get a problem, you just text me and I'll solve it. But yeah, big news.

Speaker 1 It's huge news because you are the first college player, you know, five-star recruit who basically decided this, who could have gone anywhere.

Speaker 1 There's been guys who've gone overseas, but it's mostly been academic reasons.

Speaker 1 What was like the decision process? At what point did you say like this is actually a real thing? I'm going to go play in New Zealand.

Speaker 7 I think when my parents brought it up to me and Happy brought it up to me and then we just kind of talked about it throughout the season.

Speaker 7 And I didn't really make a decision while I was in my high school season this year. But after that, I really took a hard look at it and looked at all the pros and cons.

Speaker 7 and that's when I decided what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 So, when you did the pros and cons list, what was what was part of the cons?

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, the pros, obviously, you're getting you're going to get paid right away, you get to work out all the time, you don't have to go to class, you can basically focus on basketball.

Speaker 1 What were some of the cons that you went through?

Speaker 7 I mean, maybe some of the cons were like missing out on that college experience, the college life, and then kind of just like moving far away from home. But that was really it.

Speaker 7 I felt like there was way more pros than there were cons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And we also, I should, should note that we have a good friend, full owner, not partial owner of the New Zealand Breakers, Matt Walsh.
In here, also former teammate of mine.

Speaker 1 So, Matt, when this all went down, like, what at what point did they hit you up and was like, hey, this could actually happen?

Speaker 8 Well, I didn't believe it until we had the signature.

Speaker 1 Okay, which was when?

Speaker 8 About a month ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, shit. You guys kept this a secret for a month? Yeah.
Yeah. Damn.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You found out yesterday. I found out yesterday.
I wasn't trusting.

Speaker 1 A funny side story, real quick. Matt Wall, you saw the the Carmelo Anthony to the breakers? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was obviously a precursor where Matt was maybe trying to figure out who maybe the leak was in the organization. Ah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 6 that was misinformation? Yeah.

Speaker 6 False information?

Speaker 1 Right, Matt? Matt Calangelo. That's true.
Yeah, you don't need the headphones. You can just look at the map.

Speaker 1 I had to throw out a lot of misinformation to see.

Speaker 8 identify the leak and we're still working on that. We're still working through that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you used a microphone and headphones before, Matt? No. It's happening over there.
All right, say it again, Matt. What was the Carmelo thing? I've been hungover.
Tell us how.

Speaker 1 Tell us how the Carmelo thing happened.

Speaker 8 Basically,

Speaker 8 I put it out on our group WhatsApp that everyone asked what the big global news was going to be, so I put a picture of Carmelo, hoodie Carmelo,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 8 about 10 minutes later, it was all over New Zealand media.

Speaker 1 We've got a big leak

Speaker 1 in the organization.

Speaker 8 We've got a switch, so we're working through it now.

Speaker 1 I knew the RJ news yesterday, and I was not a leak.

Speaker 8 No, you sat on it pretty good.

Speaker 1 I did tell everyone.

Speaker 8 There was a lot of barstill chatter with RJ.

Speaker 1 Well, we did say it on the, we're like,

Speaker 1 on part of my take today, we're like, we just want a flex that we know that no one else knows. So look out for a big, big information coming at 8.30.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what? Oh, okay. It must be getups.

Speaker 8 I think all things considered, we did a pretty good job keeping it contained.

Speaker 1 I'd agree. So, RJ,

Speaker 1 I saw the quote that you had that was very interesting. You basically were like, I wasn't, my goal has never been to be a college basketball player.
You just, you wanted to be a pro.

Speaker 1 And I think that honesty is crazy right now because most people, they do the, well, I'm going to play in college and then I'm going to go to the pro.

Speaker 1 So at no point, I mean, were you at any point like, I do want to go to college or there's a certain college that I'm liking more than the others?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, I didn't really get

Speaker 7 this brought up to me until like a couple months ago, like I said. But all throughout middle school and high school and even elementary school,

Speaker 7 I liked college and liked watching NCAA basketball, but ultimately my dream was never to play college basketball. That was not my main goal, was always to play in the NBA.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love that.

Speaker 7 I think that's everyone's

Speaker 1 talking for its main goal. Not a lot of people say that.
Not a lot of people say it. Yeah, they won't come out right and just say, I do not.
My goal was never to play college basketball.

Speaker 9 Is there anybody whose footsteps that you're following? Is there anybody who's like, oh, they did this, so I can do this?

Speaker 9 Or does it feel like you're kind of blazing your own path for other people to maybe follow in your footsteps?

Speaker 7 I think I'm kind of trying to be a trendsetter here because

Speaker 7 like you said, this is not an academic reason because I could have went to any school I wanted to, but

Speaker 7 I wanted to really start a trend and just, I mean, set a bar because you don't have to go to college to get to the NBA. All the European players overseas don't do that.

Speaker 7 Luca never went to college and he was one of those best colleagues.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's pretty damn good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so one thing, Jeff Goodman tweeted out that he said, good luck to R.J. Hampton overseas.
He'll make a lot of money and there are pros pros to this move. Unlimited time to work on his game.

Speaker 1 However, his brand would have benefited in college. Let's face it, few besides some NBA execs will truly pay attention to what he's doing this year.
So, what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 I mean, he's basically saying that you won't have like the Zion.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 right, because

Speaker 1 there's two things about this tweet that I don't really understand. One is who cares besides the NBA execs? Those are the guys you're trying to impress.

Speaker 1 And two, this is part of our pitch going forward that I wanted to tell you about, Matt.

Speaker 1 You are actually going to get a lot of Twitter buzz and social media buzz through

Speaker 7 our ownership yeah like we're going to talk about you a lot because I mean with like how he said with like the media and like the branding over here I mean most people didn't know Luca until three months before the draft right what pick was he top five yeah yeah probably four he was number five pick yeah he was over five so i mean

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's my point. And what do you think about that, though, Matt? We're going to do our own branding.

Speaker 8 There's no question. I mean, I told RJ Barsto is the most powerful brand

Speaker 1 in the world for 18 to

Speaker 8 40-year-olds. And it's funny, if you Google the breakers, you get Obama, LeBron, Carmelo, and now R.J.

Speaker 1 Hampton. So it's not like

Speaker 8 we're not lacking media teams. And Rick Petino.

Speaker 1 Forgot about our guy, Rick Petino. Can we hire Rick Petino?

Speaker 8 Offers on the table. You know,

Speaker 1 standing offer for Rick Pettino.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Let's do it.
So your whole family's moving with you, right? They are.

Speaker 1 And I would assume that part of the reason why you picked the breakers in this league is because of the English thing, right? Oh, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I think that's obviously a big selling point is that if guys want to do this for a year, they don't have to learn a whole new language.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the culture is obviously different, but that's an easy place to live.

Speaker 8 It's basically, I was telling his mom and dad, it's basically like being on vacation for seven months.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 9 what about spiders and snakes, though? Because I've heard that there are huge spiders and snakes in New Zealand. Does that?

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, I used to, so like... People think I'm from Dallas, but I used to live like probably 45 minutes outside of Dallas, like kind of by Oklahoma.

Speaker 7 And we used to live on like five acres, and there was always spiders and snakes.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you're prepared. So you're right.

Speaker 8 I have to jump in here. There are no poisonous spiders or snakes in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 So that's a fallacy?

Speaker 1 There are no poisonous. South predators are not aware of the state.
There are no predators. There are no predators in New Zealand.
Wait.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 New Zealand's the one with just a shitload of sheep. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Are you scared of sheep? Sheep and Kiwi. No, that's

Speaker 1 pretty cool. Sheep could run at you.
What about a

Speaker 1 sheep? More sheep than people. That was a ram.
Yeah, what if you got suffocated by sheep? That wouldn't be fun. No, that would not be funny.

Speaker 1 Do we want to break some hearts? What school would you have gone to? Who's number two? Who offered the most?

Speaker 1 Which school offered you the most? What would you have gone to?

Speaker 7 No, if I'm being serious, I would have went to the University of Kansas.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's going to be insane. I was going to have to talk so much more.

Speaker 8 Bill Sophie, I apologize.

Speaker 1 I mean, what are you going to do, though?

Speaker 1 Here's what I don't understand. Anyone who, I mean,

Speaker 1 have you been getting a lot of shit, I would assume, on Twitter? I mean, honestly, I haven't really been reading that much.

Speaker 7 I've just been texting my friends back and stuff. Good, don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, do not.

Speaker 7 Most of the stuff I've seen has been good, and I turn my comments to only people I could follow.

Speaker 1 That's very smart. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 there have, I've seen some angry fans, but it's like,

Speaker 1 what? You're making a decision for yourself. Yeah, not for the...
Right.

Speaker 1 It's actually, especially in today's day and age when everyone is all about player empowerment, except for when the empowerment goes against their specific team. And they're like, well, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 It's like, well, but you're cool with guys getting paid.

Speaker 1 And I think this is going to be one of those things where, you know, it's obviously piece by piece, but the NCAA is going to have to start having real conversations if five-star relationships start going abroad.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, but like in a couple of years, the run and dumber will be over anyway. So kids will just go straight out of high school.

Speaker 1 You would have gone straight to the NBA, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I wouldn't declare it.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Come on. You would have came to the Breakers later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess you broke our heart here, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm excited, man. I'm excited.
I mean, I don't know how many games I'm going to be able to. What time are the games on?

Speaker 1 Middle of the night. Middle of the night.
I'm going to watch all the games. That's not terrible.
Well, no, I'm having a kid, so I'm going to watch all the games. I'll be up.

Speaker 1 I'll be up all night watching the games.

Speaker 1 What's the big thing that you're going to work on your game? Like, you always got to say that when you go into a new situation,

Speaker 1 what's the thing that RJ Hampton's going to add to his game?

Speaker 7 Probably just like full court defense, like just locking somebody down. Hey, Rick Patino.

Speaker 1 The whole game.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Locking somebody down the whole game.

Speaker 1 Are you going to wear the short shorts? I noticed you wear short shorts. Can you wear shorts?

Speaker 7 Because some leagues have them banned.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 8 You can wear as short of shorts as you wear.

Speaker 1 What's up with that?

Speaker 1 Why is that coming back? I saw some of your AAU highlights.

Speaker 4 You got the short shorts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 1 Trendsetter. It's like the new wave.
Trendsetter.

Speaker 7 You can't dribble really with your shorts all long, anyways.

Speaker 1 That's fine. You've never seen Alan Iverson.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, RJ, congratulations again, man.
This is awesome. Oh, can we say how much? Did you report how much he's getting paid? Can you do that? No.
Okay. All right.
We won't do it.

Speaker 1 More or less than Kane. I should have asked you that off air.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably less. I should have asked you that off air.
But RJ, very excited for you, man. Welcome to the Breakers family.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 If you have any problems, hit me up because I'm like good cop, bad cop. Like, if dad says no, you can come to.
Oh, shit. Now I'm mom.

Speaker 1 Either way, you can come to me if you ever need anything. I'm part owner.
So congratulations again, man. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments. First up, we have Bachelor Talk for guys that don't watch The Bachelor that definitely don't watch The Bachelor.
Hank, what did you watch on The Bachelor last night?

Speaker 5 I was here with you guys, so I didn't watch The Bachelor. Not that I ever do watch The Bachelor.

Speaker 1 Et.

Speaker 1 Et.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 for those of us that didn't, including myself, because I didn't watch it on DVR. Cam wouldn't stop interrupting people on the group date.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Luke P. Wait is Cam.
Oh, it's a bachelorette, so there's multiple dudes. Correct.
Got it.

Speaker 5 Luke P doesn't realize Hannah likes other guys, and Hannah had to yell at him to stop being so cocky.

Speaker 1 Luke is a cocky guy. Like, Luke is a cocky guy name.
If you see a Luke, there's a chance that he's probably a bit of a punk.

Speaker 5 Connor S. had a one-on-one with Hannah, but she was sick, so it was at her apartment, and when he left, he left post-it notes around the room for her saying nice things.

Speaker 4 That's creepy.

Speaker 4 That's lifted from memento right there. And that doesn't end well for anybody involved.

Speaker 5 Cam tried to get a pity rose and told a story about how one time he was told he needed a leg amputation, but didn't actually need one.

Speaker 5 And then his grandma died, and then he had to rehome his 10-month-old puppy.

Speaker 1 That's like when Marlin's Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's like when Marlin's man almost got in a plane crash because he had turbulence that one time.

Speaker 4 I was about to say, dude, pick one sob story and stick to it. Right now, you're all over the place.
Like, okay, the grandma, you almost had to have your leg cut off. That's fine.

Speaker 4 When you throw in a 10-month-old 10-month-old puppy you're this is just too much right now pick one of those three and really hone it also i would just hone in on the fact that you beat having to get your leg amputated just through your pure mindset yeah that's bad that's alpha uh and then mike called him out saying it was bs and hannah sent him home who the him is i don't know but that is kind of mysterious i'm guessing him is cam So this is just the recap now we're getting like people do know who him was, but we don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Got it.
Well, I mean, you tell me. It was Cam.
Read the sentence again.

Speaker 5 Cam tried to get a pity rose, all that. And then he had to rehome his 10-month-old puppy.
Mike called him out, saying it was B.S., and Hannah sent him home.

Speaker 1 I actually don't know. That could be Cam or Mike.

Speaker 4 Cam sounds like a loudmouth. I say it was Cam.

Speaker 1 I think it was Mike. Mike is the last sentence where him gets sent home.

Speaker 4 But why would Mike get sent home?

Speaker 1 Because he called out a guy. Yeah.
He called out a guy for just having to rehome a puppy. Mike hates dogs.

Speaker 4 Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 I think it was Cam. Cam? No, I think it was Mike.

Speaker 4 Maybe he just hates irresponsible dog owners.

Speaker 1 It's going to be so frustrating for people who actually watch this show. They're like, we fucking know who it is.
It's just someone wrote a sentence that doesn't match up.

Speaker 5 Classic user

Speaker 5 at Watchers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. At it again.

Speaker 4 Right now, Luke sounds like the obvious winner in this group.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got a little badass.

Speaker 5 Cam. Cam got sent home.

Speaker 1 Cam got sent home. Okay, got it.
Soldier.

Speaker 1 The sentence wasn't great, but that's okay. Yeah.
We move on.

Speaker 1 We have a just stopped talking New York Giants. PFT, I don't know if you saw this, but Pat Shermer is comparing Daniel Jones and Eli Manning with each other again, which stop doing that, Giants.

Speaker 1 Stop being like, hey, these guys are so much alike, because that's not what anyone wants to hear right now, I don't think.

Speaker 1 And then he said, they're very calm in their approach, but they're very fiery under the covers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think Pat Shermer definitely fucked both of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I can't imagine either of them is fiery under the covers.

Speaker 4 I bet Eli Manning's good in bed. You think so?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got a mouth for sucking.

Speaker 4 He's got a mouth for something,

Speaker 4 and he self-sacks all the time, so he's always hopping into the fart sack.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't be shocked if Eli Manning had a strong dick game.

Speaker 1 He probably actually is a pretty good French kisser because his mouth just stays open at all times.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I'll put it this way. He fucks really good once every seven years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. You had a locker room talk for Will Muschamp.

Speaker 4 Yeah, old Billy Muschamp, the Gamecocks coach, they asked him what he thought about all these schools banning the Oklahoma drill.

Speaker 4 And his response was, I have no idea what the Oklahoma drill is. South Carolina has the cock drill.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.
The cock drill.

Speaker 4 This is. I've seen on fuckingmachines.com.

Speaker 1 And spin zone, or sorry, spoiler alert, that actually just is the Oklahoma drill. Because what is, like, if you ban the Oklahoma Drill, can't they just rename it?

Speaker 1 And be like, well, no, it's not the Oklahoma Drill. It's the cock drill.

Speaker 4 It's the cock drill. I hadn't thought of that, but that's a really good, that's a good spin zone out of it.

Speaker 4 I also wouldn't be surprised if Will Muschamp doesn't totally understand that that could be a double entendre.

Speaker 1 No, definitely not. Definitely not.

Speaker 1 When he got hired there, it never dawned on him that he can't just throw around the word cock left and right, being like, everyone will figure it out, dude, because you're the game cock.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he just had like a bunch of old playbooks and practice drills left over from Spurrier that were like very obviously double on Todder names from the old ball coach.

Speaker 4 And Will is just like clueless about it.

Speaker 1 Also, I know this will probably piss off our South Carolina listeners, and I do love Charleston.

Speaker 1 I love the state of South Carolina, great place to visit, but I can't stand when South Carolina people refer to themselves as USC. That's the worst.
You're not USC. USC is in California.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 It's just the truth. It's tough, and I do like Will Muschamp.

Speaker 4 He's one of those coaches that you need a few guys like him in college football to really spice it up because they literally have no idea that anything exists outside of college football.

Speaker 4 Bill Muschamp speaks English like a non-native speaker understands English. Like he doesn't understand any sort of colloquialisms.

Speaker 4 If you told him like there's more than one way to skin a cat, he'd be like, no, that's not true. Just with your dad's hunting knife.
That's it. That's the only way.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He also, yeah, I mean, he's got got that like confused wet dog look on him at all times where he's always sweating and always in a little slight state of confusion yeah like yeah he looks coaches yeah he looks like uh the perfect mix between jay grudin and deuce gruden yeah yes um all right hank guys on checks

Speaker 5 guys my boyfriend and i took a break in december now he's in a relationship with another girl but we still FaceTime every night and have a closer, meaningful relationship than they do.

Speaker 5 He says he loves me more, but for some reason stays in the relationship. Should I keep waiting for him or finally move on?

Speaker 4 Please help.

Speaker 1 Yikes. That's it.
Yeah, definitely keep waiting.

Speaker 4 Sounds like he's going to leave her any day now.

Speaker 1 He's definitely not telling the other girl that he loves her the most.

Speaker 1 He definitely loves you the most if he's saying it on FaceTime when he's really horny late at night.

Speaker 4 I'll put it this way: you need to get access to his phone and see what name you're saved in his phone as, because I guarantee it's not yours.

Speaker 1 No, it's like

Speaker 1 Philip.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 grandma. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Whatever roommate you have that's like you're not super super close with.

Speaker 1 Right, right. And you also need to

Speaker 1 make sure that you

Speaker 1 give him an ultimatum. Don't let him jerk you around like this.
This is bullshit. Be like, put up or shut up.

Speaker 4 Let's fuck. Yeah, guys love ultimatums.
Just be like, either fuck me or stop FaceTiming me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then he'll definitely commit to you after that. Yes.

Speaker 5 Hey, PFT, Big Cat, and Hanky. So, my roommate's best friend is living in our apartment while he waits for his lease.
The same guy who was all over me at the bar one night.

Speaker 5 My boyfriend is also staying with us, but he saw the other guy grabbing and holding onto me at the bar.

Speaker 5 Do you think my boyfriend is wrong for wanting to fight the guy and wanting to, quote-unquote, break every one of his fingers in half?

Speaker 5 I think he's dumb for being so aggressive, but he says it's just grit.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Yeah, I mean, he is in the right to want to pulverize this guy's face. Man stop.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 once he stops wanting to murder somebody, that's when you have a problem.

Speaker 1 That's when he's cheating on you.

Speaker 4 That's when you have low teeth. Yeah, if your man hasn't gotten in a fight over you in the last six weeks,

Speaker 4 he's probably gotten another girl pregnant.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, so the guy

Speaker 1 who he wants to fight is living with them now?

Speaker 1 That's awkward. Damn.

Speaker 4 That's really funny. He's going to poison them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something bad's going to happen. I don't know.
Just make sure that... Maybe put some GoPros

Speaker 1 around the house. That way, when they do fight, you can at least go viral.

Speaker 4 Also, what if this dude just is secretly in love with the other guy?

Speaker 1 That's true. Like, damn, I want to fight him so bad.
You can't watch, though.

Speaker 1 You can't be here when we fight.

Speaker 4 That's what happens with guys. Sometimes you just want to fight somebody so hard that you end up loving him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Next.

Speaker 5 Sup, boys, I've been talking to this guy for a while, but there's one little thing that bothers me. When he gets drunk, he gets obsessed with telling people he is Irish.

Speaker 5 He wears the flag around his neck flaunts around his Guinness and tells everyone he has huge balls but a tiny cock like I guess most Irish people do or so he says the worst part is I asked

Speaker 5 was he

Speaker 5 I asked as he was talking to his dad one day and it turns out he's not even Irish not one percent what should I do

Speaker 1 take away is drop kick murphy's albums this guy definitely is like when Conor McGregor gets a fight he's doing the when when one of us goes to war we all go to war and all that bullshit bullshit i don't know i actually think this is kind of a funny quirk i mean if he was 100 irish it'd be annoying but the fact that he's 0% irish is kind of funny listen we're all from Pangea anyway so it's not like he's not not Irish right I'm talking

Speaker 4 it sounds like this dude is just he's gotten really into Irish culture he eats a lot of lucky charms listens to a lot of flogging molly it's a phase he'll grow out of it yeah let him let him be let him be all right last one sup boys almost every time I mention I'm going to shower my fiancé requests to take a poop first oh Oh.

Speaker 5 As if suddenly, within the 10 to 15 minutes I'm using our only bathroom, disaster may strike, and therefore he needs to preemptively empty his bowels just in case.

Speaker 5 Fair enough, except that it's meant that since we've lived together, I've probably taken 75% of my showers surrounded by his shit cloud. Am I doomed to stinky showers for the rest of my life?

Speaker 1 Help. Dude, this guy's a psycho.
Just get a bigger appointment. No, get two bathrooms.
I disagree. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think this guy's just smart. This is how guys are wired.

Speaker 4 If we're on a road trip and we see a gas station and we don't know when the next gas station is going to be, we're going to fill up the tank with gas because you don't want to run out.

Speaker 4 Like he's just being prepared.

Speaker 4 Would you rather take a shower after he's pooped or take a shower while he's pooping? Because those are the only two choices.

Speaker 1 I'd rather him just take the poop at Scott Boris's office, to be honest.

Speaker 1 Sometimes it's not an option.

Speaker 4 And you know what? The weird thing about that is... Past PFT would have probably done that.

Speaker 4 And I'm turning over a new leaf because I've realized it's not always socially acceptable to poop in other people's places of business.

Speaker 4 And so this is personal growth for me and I'll thank you to applaud me for it instead of shaming me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, you need another bathroom or this relationship is over.
Like this will not last through the wedding. You can't do it.
That's not sustainable to have to take a poop shower all the time.

Speaker 1 That's not your poop.

Speaker 4 Why don't you do it to him? Every time he has to take a shower, just unload one right before he gets in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, every time you have to take a shower and he says, I got to poop, you just got to say, okay, but I got to poop first.
And just have a poop on him.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Leave the seat warm for him.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll see everyone on Friday.

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