NBA Champ Matt Barnes, Fyre Fest Of The Week, GoT Predictions

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have NBA champion

Speaker 1 14-year veteran. Oh, yeah, he doesn't want to be an NBA champion, right? Matt Barnes.
NBA veteran. Well, he is a champion as well.
Matt Barnes. Very interesting discussion with him.

Speaker 1 We talked about his career. We talked about his relationship with Kobe, the Flinch, KD versus Draymond.

Speaker 1 Very, very, oh, getting high before games, all of that and more with Matt Barnes.

Speaker 1 We have a little NBA playoffs, Fire Fest of the Week, some segments and FAQs to end the week and get us ready for Grit Week.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, May 17th. And PFT, do you know what today actually is?

Speaker 1 No, I don't. 99

Speaker 1 days until college football. I love it.
99 days.

Speaker 1 Give me that face. We've breached the double.
99 days until college football. Put that in your little brain and just think about it.

Speaker 1 Big time Bruins fan, Hank, over there, just wants us to talk nothing but hockey today. Dude,

Speaker 1 when you get past the 100 days away from, when you breach the 100 until real meaningful football comes back, a little chill goes down my spine. I would even say that once training camp starts.

Speaker 1 But I'm talking about

Speaker 1 records. That's kind of football.

Speaker 1 Once hard knock starts, it's full mast. Okay, so people are probably like, what the fuck? We just watched an awesome Warriors Blazers game, which we're going to talk about.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 The Curries went off against each other, except Seth didn't really. He just hit a big three at the end.
Can I just say the narrative I'm going to get going is Seth Curry is the better pure shooter

Speaker 1 than Steph Curry. That's a true.
The better pure guy shoots.

Speaker 1 Steph has to create his own shot.

Speaker 1 Seth is much better

Speaker 1 off the pick.

Speaker 1 Seth is better.

Speaker 1 Two feet in from from the three-point line. Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 So it was an unbelievable game. The Warriors, dare I say, are even more fun than they were when Kevin Durant was going bazooka on everyone.

Speaker 1 And I still, Kevin Durant, we have done a podcast switch on him just because he seems to be someone who will be a future guest and also talks shit and kind of seems cool. But the preemptive switch.

Speaker 1 The Warriors are a lot of fun to watch right now. And I'm going to say it, it's Draymond's team.
There you go. It's Draymond.
I don't mind that.

Speaker 1 I don't mind Draymond getting a little bit of credit, a little bit of shine on this show. He had 16, 10, and 7, was everywhere.
He is the heartbeat of the Warriors.

Speaker 1 He unlocks Steph Curry to score 37 points. He's looking skinny, too.
Yeah, oh, Draymond is. Draymond is nice, and he's toned it down.
He's trimmed off all the fat. He's like a big thing, a brisket.

Speaker 1 He does the shack. He's going slow.
He does a shack where he just gets in shape in season. Yeah.
So he's plays his shape.

Speaker 1 I'll get in shape on your dime. I like that.
No wasted energy, has fun, relaxes in the off-season. I don't mind Draymond being the new de facto captain of this team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he always has been, but this is, it was an unbelievable game from him, unbelievable game from Steph. And I'll hand up.

Speaker 1 They do play a lot more wide open without Kevin Durant, and it's fun to watch. I'm going to say the word that we're using for the Warriors is sudden.
Sudden. They're very sudden.

Speaker 1 They make things happen suddenly. So the Blazers were up by, what, 15, 17, something like that.
They were up double digits in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 And then I looked down at my computer, read exactly one blog, looked up. One single blog.
One blog, and looked up, and the score was in three points, I think. Yes.

Speaker 1 So the score was 69 to 53 with 9-16 left in the third quarter. When you looked up with 7-11 left in the third quarter, it was 69-66.
Yep. They did it that fast.

Speaker 1 It was like play three, Steph three, clay three, clay three. Boom.
They're back in this game. And it's incredible how quickly they jump on you like that.

Speaker 1 And the Warriors, I mean, what are you going to say? Like, I think the Bucs Warriors would be a good final, but I think

Speaker 1 that's the only thing O-V-E-R over. We don't know.
I need a mom cam.

Speaker 1 I need a mom cam on Sonia all the time. Her reactions are pretty funny.
I love that. A little horny there.
You know what they need to? No, watching her reactions are so funny.

Speaker 1 They need to have like the win probability chart, except it monitors who she she loves more, Seth or Steph, as the game goes on. A little extra for Steph, wouldn't you say? A little extra cheering?

Speaker 1 No, for Seth. Oh, you thought so? I thought she tried a little too hard.
She's like, I'm not sure to hit him. Exactly.
She's like, I love you too, honey. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, that sucks because it was like the best game that the Blazers could have played for a few quarters there, and then it just all goes to naught because the second half Warriors are back, and the Warriors have defeated the Warriors.

Speaker 1 And we got that shot of Kevin Durant standing in the hallway, going over the stat sheet in his hoodie, being like, fuck. Hoodie KD.
Fuck. You know what?

Speaker 1 He was looking at it like it was a magic eye calendar, just like staring at it, hoping that his name would pop out and be like, oh, I played 12. I had 44.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I gave him 44, 12, and 11.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the other note I had wrote down from this game, Zach Collins, who is like, weirdly, I feel like NBA Twitter's like favorite little pet project, who, you know, could be good eventually, and he's a young guy.

Speaker 1 He was very close to a trillion. So he played eight minutes.
He had no points, no rebounds, no assists, two turnovers and five fouls. What was his plus minus? His plus minus was.
I hope it was zero.

Speaker 1 It was zero. Yeah, that's really hard to do.
Yes. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Five fouls in eight minutes. He almost impressed.
He almost had an 80 trillion. Yes.
Holy shit. I don't know if that's been done in the playoffs before.

Speaker 1 Did I ever tell you about the time I fouled out? I set a league record when I was in high school for the quickest foul out? Yeah. Two and a half minutes.
There you go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I knew my role on that team, and my role was to not get out of the game. To foul out as fast as you can.

Speaker 1 Not get myself out of the game, fulfill the minimum minutes requirements on my league coach so that he could say, yeah, I got the shitty kid in for a little bit, and then get the hell out of the gym.

Speaker 1 And Dane Lillard

Speaker 1 tried to shoot his way into this game, but like they just can't do anything. The Blazers can't do anything.
It's just they're too good. They are too good.

Speaker 1 People are going to say, oh, listen, I know that people hate the Warriors, and I get the point that people will make, and it's a fair one, because you're watching these Warriors, and you're like, why did Kevin Durant have to go and join these Warriors?

Speaker 1 It could have been a better league if he was somewhere else and a little bit more even around.

Speaker 1 But if you watch the Warriors play basketball and you're not like, this is fucking awesome, I don't know what to say. Yeah, it's very...

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm sick of them, but I'm also like, this is fucking awesome. I want to see what they do against the Bucks.

Speaker 1 I want to see what they do against the Bucs. Yeah.
Because that's

Speaker 1 we're moving them both to the finals. It's a team that they have.
They haven't played against a a team that's built like the Bucs yet. And so I would like to very much see that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it will be the Giannis is a special kind of guy and

Speaker 1 like a totally different than everything else. And let's move on to that game.
So the Raptors did basically what the Blazers did tonight. They played perfect.

Speaker 1 Kyle Lowry had 30 points. He was unconscious.
And you wasted your Kyle Lowry game. Like, you don't get a lot of those.
Yeah, but we got a Brooks-Lopez game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you don't get a lot of Kyle Lowry games. Yes, the Brooks-Lopez game was awesome.

Speaker 1 He was actually doing like heat checks where he was 35 feet from the back.

Speaker 1 He's like, get it to me, get it to me. But Giannis didn't play well.
The Bucs didn't play well for the first three quarters. Kyle Lowry was unconscious, and you still somehow lose by eight points.

Speaker 1 You know what, though? If I'm the Raptors, I'm okay with getting beat by Lopez. Like, because that's not something that you gain.

Speaker 1 I don't think at this state, though, like, you're probably like, I don't want to lose at all, especially with the Kyle Lowry game. But if Lopez beats you, it's like, okay, you know,

Speaker 1 we did our job on Giannis. We did our job shutting down some of their shooters.
We didn't plan for, we didn't have a contingency plan for one of the Lopez twins to step off the bench and give us 29.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just, it's, I mean, the Raptors are kind of screwed in a lot of ways, but, like, also watching Miritich, who is one of the softest big men I've ever watched play when he was on the Bulls, like, get dirty and get offensive rebounds, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 When you get out-rebounded like that, that's a problem. So the Raptors, Kawhi is going to have to just be insane like he was in the last series for them to survive this one.

Speaker 1 And that's not an overreaction, even though it might be. Did you see that Canada

Speaker 1 has been asked by Enos Cantor to guarantee his security from Turkish assassins if they make the finals and the Raptors make the final? A little get ahead of yourself.

Speaker 1 Like, get ahead of yourself a little bit. So basically, the Raptors just hit up the Warriors and they were like, hey, just...
Just play basketball really well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that way we don't have to worry about

Speaker 1 spending all this money on specialists. Or they were just hit up the Warriors like, don't worry about...
Or hit up the blazers, like, this are you serious? Are we going to do like a second play?

Speaker 1 Are we going to do a

Speaker 1 bronze medal game? You know what? If I was Canada, I would just put a shitload of money. Nations can gamble, right? Yeah.
Like your Treasury Department.

Speaker 1 Put all your loonies on the Blazers to make the finals. And that way, the payout that you get from that, you can just use to provide extra security

Speaker 1 for everybody. Yes.
Yeah, Nations Gamble. It was called two years ago when every male from 22 to 35 years old bought Bitcoin at the same time.
Yep. That was Nations Gamble.
That was pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 The real important news. Yeah.
Period Skipka. Yeah.
Wait, wait, I have one more thing.

Speaker 1 I have one more thing about basketball real quick.

Speaker 1 The winner of the playoffs, I'm saying it right now, without a doubt, before we even get to like the finals, the finals MVP, Nick nurses goofy faces. That guy makes faces.

Speaker 1 Like, I think he had that one gif that happened a couple weeks ago, went viral, and he's like, I'm the face guy now. He's demonstrative.
Yes. I wish he sweat a little bit more.

Speaker 1 He's not sweaty enough for my liking. Yeah.
But we can work on that. That's something that can come with age.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And I think playing in the great white north kind of takes away some of the sweatiness.

Speaker 1 But listen, if you do faces, you'll stick around longer. You have to have something that people are like, oh, that's, oh, Nick Nurse, the face guy? Okay.
Yeah. He could be a good coach.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley would have gotten fired seven times over if you didn't have the slick back hair. Right.

Speaker 1 You have to have a look. Yep.
You have to have a look. You know, Phil Jackson just handing out books and smoking weed, that's a look in its own way.
PJ Carlissimo getting choked, that's a look.

Speaker 1 Yeah, having a big red neck all the time. Who got hit with the ball in the face? Was it Scott Brooks maybe got hit with the ball?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 someone else got hit with the ball in their face. Doc Rivers has the voice throw.
Doc Rivers has the voice.

Speaker 1 If you have something that people can be like, oh, yeah, Pop has the, I'm arrogant to every sideline reporter ever, you need something that people can just, the casual thing and be like, oh, yeah, Nick Nurse, the look guy.

Speaker 1 Can I suggest this? Joe Prunty has ties. Joe Prunty has the ultimate Van Husen collection.
Yes.

Speaker 1 He goes dummy at Cole's. I learned that phrase, going dummy at Kohl's.
He goes pretty. He goes mad dummy.
Mad dummy. Mad dummy.

Speaker 1 So, wait, yeah, Nick Nurse, my suggestion for his look. Wear scrubs on the sidelines.
Yeah, that would work too. Or a stethoscope.
Yes. And just be like, I just came.
I'm the nurse.

Speaker 1 I just came from a 24-hour shift. I am the nurse.
Second time we brought up nurses this week. Shout out nurses.
Love them. Okay, Brooks Kepler.
Brooks Kipkefiri. He's on literal.

Speaker 1 Course record at Beth Page Black. He blacked out.
He was fucking bored out there. He's like, this is stupid.
I'd rather be sitting on my couch watching basketball.

Speaker 1 And he was like, I got to get out of here. So he shot a 63, wasted very little energy out there.
And maybe more impressive, he did that in the same grouping as Tiger. Yeah, actually, the announcement.

Speaker 1 Bad defense by Tiger. The announcers said it's Brooks Kepka's group.
Who's man? Shit. They were like, here comes Brooks Kepka's group with Tiger Woods in it.

Speaker 1 And on top of all of that, shout out to Brooks because I'm pretty sure after we basically were like, hey, there's nothing we can make fun of you for, and you're perfect, and blah, blah, blah, blah, he wore the ugliest fucking shirt I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 So good job by you, Brooks. Thank you.
Thank you for wearing such an ugly shirt. That was, I feel like that was just a personal shout-out to us.
Like, hey, guys, you thought I was perfect?

Speaker 1 No, I dressed like a blind person. He had a weird hat on, too.
Yes. And, you know, credit to him.
He told us he was going to cut those bangs off. He did.
He cut the Bama bangs right off. No swoop.

Speaker 1 He spiked it up a little bit in the front. Yes.
God damn it, Brooks. He was so good.
A course record.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Brandall Chamblis.

Speaker 1 Chambliss. Brandis Chambly's.
Sexists. Suck our dicks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sorry, we don't say.

Speaker 1 No, don't bleep that. Suck our dicks, dude.
There was a headline today that said, I think it was Wall Street Journal. Thanks for crediting our interview, by the way, Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 1 But the headline said, Brooks Kepka. gave Brandon Chambliss

Speaker 1 the finger for four and a half hours, which, I mean, hey, a lot of people wouldn't mind getting the finger from Brooks for about four and a half hours. Four and a half hours? That's a long time.

Speaker 1 Brandis is going to be mighty sore tomorrow. Yes, he's got the rice bucket, so he does it.
Yeah, he's got that grip.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know who Brandis Chamblis is.

Speaker 1 Chipson Brambly. Chambly Baristus.
What a shitty name. I mean, it's a better name, dude.
Dude, your name sucks. You just got sunned at Beth Page Black.
Have some.

Speaker 1 The only thing I know about how to rank golf courses, besides the fact that the U.S.

Speaker 1 Open will always fuck with you, and the British Open is filled with a bunch of guys that are just pounding scotch in the sun all day. And they play it on, like, just a beach with a little bit of moss.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 I ranked them in order of how hard they were on Tiger Woods golf back in 2003. And Beth Page Black was a really hard one.
Yes. So I'm told this is an impressive score by our friend Brooks Keppel.

Speaker 1 And they also have that sign that says, like, the black course is very, very difficult. Yeah, it says intimidates.
Yeah, they act like it's a ski slope. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That you're going to crack your head open if you go down. Right.
You're going to get so mad by the fourth hole that you're going to commit seppuku with your driver.

Speaker 1 Brooks just blew up your fucking mountain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was our Brooks. That was our talking golf.

Speaker 1 That was as aggressive a golf talk as you'll get on any podcast anywhere. Brooks.

Speaker 1 Also, John Daly was late for his tea time. And was just

Speaker 1 diet coax from McDonald's in his cart. Drove a cart all day.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. That guy, man.
They should have given him a specialty horn on there that played like the Auga, like the old-timey car horn.

Speaker 1 Or something like the oh no, who does the thing about the General Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think it should have played Dixie? Probably not.
Interesting. I wasn't thinking about that.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about

Speaker 1 the Sopranos when

Speaker 1 I think Paulie has the Godfather song as

Speaker 1 his horn button. I could have wished, or I wish that Daly would have done the thing where he just drove over his playing partner with a golf cart.

Speaker 1 Just as a classic gag. Two years ago, viral.
Almost killed you. No, reviral.
And then everybody would be like, that's classic John Daly. Man.
It would have been funny. You don't get it.

Speaker 1 You don't live on Instagram. You don't understand how funny this video used to be.
All right. Hockey, Hank, go.

Speaker 1 That was actually going to be my Fire Fest of the week. The Blues getting hand-passed to death? No, that sucked for the Blues fans.
Not that I'm happy the Blues lost, but that sucked for the Blues.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was tough. That was, I mean, obviously, I'm a casual hockey fan.
I was watching that game. I had bet on the sharks, so I was like happy, but I was stunned.

Speaker 1 And I felt like if I was a Blues fan,

Speaker 1 I would still be bitching. Mad forever.
Tough to give that one up. Yeah.
It was blatant, too. Blatant.

Speaker 1 He didn't even try to conceal it. It looked like he was swatting a fly.
And they can't, like, the fact they couldn't review that. What's going on there, Hank? You watching something?

Speaker 1 Is there a segment? Yes. Oh, there is.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's nice.

Speaker 1 That's Pauli Wallen. That's horned.
It's fucking awesome. Yeah, is there a saying in hockey, Puck Don't Lie? I don't think there is.
They should start that.

Speaker 1 All right, here's the only thing that I'll say, though.

Speaker 1 People were comparing it to the Rams and the Saints. First of all, the Blues, you gave up a goal with a minute left.
Okay? You had the game one. You gave up a goal with a minute left.

Speaker 1 Second of all, if that goal doesn't happen, who's to say the Blues are still going to win the game? You know what I mean? You still have to win overtime. So it sucked.
They got screwed.

Speaker 1 It was a travesty. They have every right to throw a bunch of trash on the ice or St.
Louis pizza, same thing. But it like.
What? St. Louis people are so weird with this shit that

Speaker 1 some of them are learning. Like, if you call call Panera Panera, they're like, no, it's St.
Louis breadcrumbs. St.
Louis breadcrumbs. No, it's called Panera.
No, it's St.

Speaker 1 Louis bread, and they slice their bagels lengthwise. But they did get screwed.
So they did, I mean, I don't know what else to say. You got screwed.
Big time. Big time.
Big time.

Speaker 1 And this whole, like, the NHL wants the Sharks in the final because of Joe Thornton.

Speaker 1 That's a stretch. Listen, I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but when you're saying that the NFL needs San Jose

Speaker 1 in the finals

Speaker 1 to get higher ratings. I think you're on a sinking ship, though.
A little argument. A little bit.
So, Hank, you're Bruins. You want to do Fire Fest? Oh, we're going to Fire Fest of the Week.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I'll start.
Hockey, Hank. My Fire Fest of the Week is that the Celtics lost, so they ruined the Boston Sports.
Oh, that sucks. That sucks, Hank.
I'm sorry. What happened to the Hurricanes?

Speaker 1 That was a

Speaker 1 Hamilton the Pig. That was a fucking thing.
The Capitols beat them up too bad. That's exactly what happened.
Hamilton the Pig, R.I.P. Yep, you got to die now, bro.
Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.

Speaker 1 Yep. they don't kill that pig, fat and happy.
If they don't kill that pig, they'll never win anything.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. You know what? I'm going to go on a pig murdering spree until you actually put that pig down.
I'm going to eat bacon every day. Yep.
Until that pig's dead. Yes.

Speaker 1 But the only thing to really worry about is the rest versus rust situation. They got a lot of time off now.
Oh, you're still doing this? What?

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought we had moved on because we started making funny jokes. We were making fun of the

Speaker 1 podcast. A different fire fest.
Now you think that... Well, it was in the middle of my tough day Fire Fest.
So

Speaker 1 wait, I wasn't finished. You know what we should do? We should do

Speaker 1 an ongoing power ranking of what Boston sports fans' biggest struggles currently are. Right now, the Boston sports fans' biggest struggle is that they won their conference final too quickly.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's number one on your Firefest of the Week. Jesus, scared.
Any others?

Speaker 1 What was my other one? Oh, I mean, this is another one. You tough.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, this is tough.

Speaker 1 Very relatable. Commuting during rush hour.
Oh. So we had an A-Rod corpse shoot early this week.

Speaker 1 I was on the train at like 8 a.m. I had a bunch of equipment with me.

Speaker 1 I had to wait. Like, it was so busy at my train station.
I had to wait for four trains to show up before I could even get on. Oh, my God.
Because it was so packed. They just looked at you.

Speaker 1 Not today. The train would pull up, and it was already pulled.
What do we say to the trains? The train of death. Not today.

Speaker 1 What do we say to the train of death? Yeah, not today.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was brutal. That is one thing that is like you said,

Speaker 1 it's not relatable whatsoever, but we never travel. Well, it is relatable for people that commute during rush hour.
Right. It fucking sucks.
Right. Your life sucks, dude.
Yeah. Ours, we don't

Speaker 1 lucky. We never

Speaker 1 commute at the most off hours. We commute at 10 a.m.
and midnight. Yeah.
When we go home, there's like two people on the train.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're either drunk and throwing up or they've shat themselves already. Yes.
But there's only two people, so you got some leg room. That's nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a similar Firefest tank.

Speaker 1 I'll go and then you go PFTO. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, well, first of all, my first Fire Fest is Anna Kendrick unfollowed me. Oh, no.
Whatever. Okay, whatever.
It sucked. Okay.

Speaker 1 I even went to the gym

Speaker 1 yesterday, so if you think I'm really feeling it, it's because I got a workout high 24 hours later. Now, do you think that it's because she accidentally followed you?

Speaker 1 No, I think it was a Kevin White mixtape after like 17 straight bulls tweets.

Speaker 1 Probably. That might have done it.

Speaker 1 Or it was the fact that you brought attention to it, and then she was like, Why are all these people blowing me up?

Speaker 1 And also, our friend KB No Swag pointed out something that she follows like 300 people, and they're all like the Hollywood type that don't tweet a lot.

Speaker 1 So it was not only the 17 Bulls tweets, but I'm pretty sure that was her entire time lapse. Just like 17 tweets, more than two hours in general is a big red flag.
Right.

Speaker 1 She's like, whoops, that was a mistake.

Speaker 1 She jumped right in the deep end. Yeah, my other firefest of the week was, Hank, I got sneezed on on a train.
Yeah. So if I die soon, that's why.
That's brutal. On the back of my neck.

Speaker 1 So thankfully it wasn't mouth to mouth. Well, Spinzone, they made you stronger because they got their germs on you, and now you have more immunity.
It was so fucking disgusting. I didn't even look.

Speaker 1 I didn't even turn around because if I knew I turned around and I saw the person and they were like, you know,

Speaker 1 they probably like had, they probably had like leprosy or something. And I was going to just be like, all right, I'll just...
I'll just die right now.

Speaker 1 So I didn't look, but that person's probably very, very sick. And they sneeze.
You don't sneeze on a train. Did you say God bless you? No, I just went like this.

Speaker 1 So they're going to hell. So you had your revenge ultimately.
Yes, I have my revenge on that person. Whoever you are out there, don't sneeze on fucking trains.
That's bullshit, don't you think?

Speaker 1 Well, sometimes you can't control it. Sneezings are sneezing is tough.
It's not like

Speaker 1 I'm curious. I want to know if there's any like statisticians out there.
Yeah. How many people die per year driving while sneezing? Oh, that's a good question.
It's got to happen.

Speaker 1 I've got to keep my pants while sneezing while driving.

Speaker 1 That's almost dying. Yeah, that's almost.
If there's like hundreds of millions of people in America, there's got to be at least, you know, 30.

Speaker 1 If there's hundreds of people in America,

Speaker 1 let me do the calculator. There are more than hundreds of people in America.
30 million? No,

Speaker 1 30 million.

Speaker 1 I said hundreds of millions. Yeah, you said hundreds of people.
Oh, I thought I said hundreds of people. How many people? Do I think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like at least 30. 30 million?

Speaker 1 No, 30 people die from. Oh, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 I said hundreds of millions. I'm terrible with our math right now.
From SWI. Yes, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Or sneezing while crossing the street or something like, or doing something just really stupid while sneezing. Sneezing on a ladder.
How many people died?

Speaker 1 At least one person this year has sneezed while standing on a ladder. I'll bet you somebody's died from sneezing while using a q-tip.
Ooh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 It goes right in. Yeah.
Sneezing while standing next to a ledge. Yeah, sneezing while thinking about jumping over the ledge.
Right.

Speaker 1 And then it makes up your mind for you. Right.

Speaker 1 That's all. Yeah.
How many people do you think have died a fortnight while sneezing? A lot. Like, died in the fortnight.
Yeah, a lot. Yeah.
Tons. Tons.
Hundreds of people. Very dangerous.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Practice safe sneezing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My fire. Are you done with yours? Yeah.
Okay. I got sneezed on.

Speaker 1 I don't think you really

Speaker 1 like you.

Speaker 1 I'm crushed over. I've been sneezed on.
Like, you're going to die, too, because you're close enough to. Also, if PFT got sneezed on, his hair would block it.
That's true. That's why I grow it.

Speaker 1 I got sneezed on, dude. I don't know.
I would like you to at least show a little bit of like. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 At least you got sneezed on the back of you, and so you didn't have to smell the other person sneeze. Smelling another person sneeze is the worst sensation known to man.

Speaker 1 I got sneezed on. Oh, it's tough.
Okay. It's tough.
Do you need some vitamins? But it's not even fucking flu season. I got vitamins.

Speaker 1 You know when you see like a raccoon out during the day, and you're like, that raccoon's fucked up. They got rabies.
They're out in the day.

Speaker 1 When someone sneezes in like May, June, July, August, you're like, what's wrong with your immune system? I might just become,

Speaker 1 like a lot of Asian countries, it's common courtesy to wear masks in public so you don't get other people sick. I might lead by example and start that here.
Unrelated, but kind of related.

Speaker 1 Except wear it over my butt so they don't smell my farts. Do you think it'd be a weird move if I started using an oxygen tank? Yeah, that's a little early.
I'd say a little early in life.

Speaker 1 But like that high you get when you go into a Vegas casino. It is nice.

Speaker 1 And I also probably would get preferential treatment. If you just wheeled around an oxygen tank, correct.
That's true. Yeah.
People would get out of your way.

Speaker 1 And I'd be thinking at a way faster speed than everyone else.

Speaker 1 It'd be like... Limitless.
Yeah, no, it'd be like plugging into the wall the internet instead of getting the Wi-Fi. You know what you should do?

Speaker 1 You should just straight up do the oxygen tank and an IV. So your body's super hydrated all the time.
Like one of the IVs on wheels that you carry around with you. Enicatheter.
Yeah, and a catheter.

Speaker 1 So you're

Speaker 1 super hydrated at all times. Put me in a coma.
You've got oxygen just coursing through your veins and your brain. Your body is

Speaker 1 operating at optimum speed. Right.
I can't speak. I can't do anything.
No one's going to want to talk to you. But my brain is working so fast.

Speaker 1 But if they did did talk to you, you would just run them in circles with your argument. I think.
And superior logic. At least try this for a couple days.
And a diaper.

Speaker 1 Not a catheter. How fast my brain can work.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just shut everything else down except my brain. I like it.
All right, fire fest. My fire fest of the week is Chernobyl.
Oh, wait, no spoilers on season on episode two. I haven't watched.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I watched it. I assume too.
I assumed that the plant blowing up was bad. It was not good.
Okay. So Chernobyl had

Speaker 1 in 1986.

Speaker 1 It was actually literally a fire fest fest because all the officials were staying in tents. All the meals were poisoned.
The dogs,

Speaker 1 there were no swimming pigs, but there were dogs that carried radiation poisoning on them. Don't do that with the dogs.
I'm just saying, you're going to see it.

Speaker 1 So it was literally a fire fest, and I love watching it because everybody talks with a British accent. They're Ukrainian.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 The blood cooling tower broke out. It could.
It shot Peter Cole. It shot.
It just possibly shot. Can they not teach him how to do a Russian accent?

Speaker 1 Well, I think it all goes back to Hunt for Red October when they had Sean Connery playing the Russian guy, and he was like, I'm Sean fucking Connery, and I'm going to call me bastard. It's so stupid.

Speaker 1 I don't know why they did that. Because we're dumb, and I don't understand that people are upset if they're cussing in a different language.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's just like when you see Russia, you feel Russia.

Speaker 1 I want to hear the Russian accent. Well, the entire landscape has a Russian accent because every time a movie is supposed to be set in Russia, they just find the greatest place possible.
Right.

Speaker 1 They're just like,

Speaker 1 they just go like Northeast Ohio. Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
They either go there or like Toledo or someplace like that, and they're like, it's bleak, so it's Russia.

Speaker 1 We don't have to actually speak Russian and have Russian accents. So yeah, I've been watching Chernobyl.
It's pretty good. Wait, where's your fire fest?

Speaker 1 Just Chernobyl, the city of the city of Chernobyl was an actual fire fest.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, I'm telling people, everyone knows that I am like obsessed with

Speaker 1 abandoned stadiums, theaters, whatever. Go look up right now, Google Chernobyl present day.
It's awesome. You can take a tour of Chernobyl.
Awesome. I don't know why you would.
Everyone just left. So

Speaker 1 there's like Ferris wheels and shit still up. There's classrooms.
Abandoned Chernobyl pictures are awesome. Do you think that it's the most white people problem ever to take a tour over to Chernobyl?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Like that's something that only white people would do. Yeah, there was some woman did it.
She took her, she drove like a bike. She took all these pictures.
I'm pretty sure she died.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have tours that will get you close to where things happen. Why risk it? Because you're white.
Yeah, I guess you're not. And

Speaker 1 that's the whitest vacation. It's like poverty tourism.
Jack should go over there. Yeah, that's probably

Speaker 1 going to go over there next to gain the powers of a small. He's going to try to turn himself into Spider-Man.

Speaker 1 He's going to find a spider in Chernobyl and let it bite him until he gets powers to shoot webs out of his fingers. If you were serious about dunking, you would go over there with your shoes.

Speaker 1 Dude, these shoes are basically radioactive anyway.

Speaker 1 You see these? Yeah.

Speaker 1 My other Fire Fest of the Week is Mike Greenberg

Speaker 1 committed,

Speaker 1 he snitched on his dad. What? Mike Greenberg snitched on his dad this morning.
He ate like too many grapes?

Speaker 1 No, he was talking about the Jets back in the day and where he first learned about being a true Jets fan after all the stuff that's gone down this week.

Speaker 1 And his dad got so mad watching the Jets one time, watching them collapse. Do you know what his dad did? He said, gosh darn it.
He snitched on him. No, worse.

Speaker 1 He threw a pillow out of a 20th story window. Oh, no.
He threw a pillow out of a window. I mean, that's when he learned what true friends.
Isn't that the most Mike Greenberg thing of all time?

Speaker 1 He's like, my dad used to get so mad when he's watching the Jets, he would just rip shots of whole milk.

Speaker 1 So, has he been holding on to this story for like 25 years? Yeah, I think he said something like, the Statue of Limitations is passed now. Oh, my God.
What a weenie.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine walking down the street and getting hit with a pillow?

Speaker 1 You'd be like, thank you. Yeah.
Like, oh. I'd probably just take a nap on the sidewalk.
Although, if you drop it from high enough, it's like a penny from the Empire State Building.

Speaker 1 the pillow will run directly through your head. Yeah, that's terrifying.
That's the most comfortable way to die. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Maybe his dad was just sneezing, holding the pillow next to the window, and he killed a man. Screaming into the pillow and throwing it out.
Yeah. What a ridiculous story.

Speaker 1 That's your hero. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 It is, but it's a fire fest because Greene implicated his father in attempted murder, I would say. Unreal.
Yeah, someone definitely got hit with a couple

Speaker 1 down feathers that day. That'd be tough.
And they've never thought. I hope someone comes forward and like, hey, I remember that.
Back in 1972, I was walking down Sixth Avenue, got hit with a pillow.

Speaker 1 A pillow hit me. Oh, fuck.
It had a big embroidered G that left an imprint on my forehead.

Speaker 1 Hank, what do you think weighs more? A pound of rocks or a pound of feathers? Hmm.

Speaker 1 Same.

Speaker 1 I know. Say this.
Say weight is, and I get it. Okay, that's good.
All right. Okay.
That was quizzing.

Speaker 1 Nice quiz. You nailed it, Hank.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Proud of it.
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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is. Matt Barnes.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on NBA champion, Matt Barnes. Does it feel good to still have people say that, introduce you like that? To me, to be honest with you, I really don't count

Speaker 1 that championship. I think, you know, obviously through the process of my career and everything I accomplished, I earned it, but I got hurt going into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And I'm always someone that, like, I don't, I've never been given anything, you know. So, to me, I always wanted to earn it.

Speaker 1 And I felt like because I wasn't out there, you know, on the court with my guys sweating and fighting, that it was kind of really just a it was given to me, right?

Speaker 1 You know, so I mean, appreciate the opportunity, you know, the rings.

Speaker 1 And I think the best part about it was my twin boys got to experience it, but I don't really ever refer to myself as a champion or wear my ring.

Speaker 1 But come on, it's better to be introduced as NBA champion than like

Speaker 1 14-year NBA vet, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it has a nice ring to it, you know, but to me, like, as far as just my mentality and the way I've always gone about things, like, I kind of felt like that was given to me, so I don't really okay.

Speaker 1 I kind of like it. If I were in your position, I definitely would not have that same attitude.
I would be rocking the ring everywhere I go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's crazy because everywhere I go, like, where's the ring? I'm just like, that's at the house. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 what is your biggest accomplishment to you personally? I think

Speaker 1 basketball-wise,

Speaker 1 I think just lasting as long as I lasted, you know, being a second-round pick, pick, getting cut, having to go to the D-League, and then really grind my way through.

Speaker 1 It was an amazing journey and being able to play that long, play with that many Hall of Famers and have the fun and travel the world. That was probably the best part about it all.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, so let's start there. You were a second-round pick, what was it, 42nd overall? 46th.
46th overall? Yeah, just counting.

Speaker 1 So you weren't supposed to make it. The people that get drafted in that position generally don't.

Speaker 1 You went to what the D-League then to the

Speaker 1 little stint with the ABL. I don't even know, but we were taking bus trips to Juarez, Mexico, messing with the cartel.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, and then I got called up to the Clippers. Actually, I got a chance to play with Dennis Rodman for a second on that ABL team, which was really cool.
Wait, Dennis was in Juarez?

Speaker 1 He didn't go to Mexico with us. He played a couple games in L.A.
with us. I was going to say, he would be pulled over at that checkpoint 10 times at a time.

Speaker 1 So at what point did you realize I can do this? I can make it in the NBA?

Speaker 1 It probably wasn't. I always had had the belief in myself, but I never really got the opportunity.

Speaker 1 You know, I got called up to the Clippers, played well, and was supposed to actually sign a two-year deal, which was kind of my fault.

Speaker 1 But growing up in Sacramento, I was a huge Laker fan, but then kind of became a Kings fan, and that's when the Kings were relevant.

Speaker 1 And Chris Weber is one of my favorite players, and I always got a chance to go back and work out with him in the summertime because he would be in Sacramento.

Speaker 1 Played well, and I was doing the same thing, working out with him in the summertime. And he's just like, you know, you need to come play here.

Speaker 1 And this is why they were, you know, still trying to dethrone the Lakers. And I did that.
And then, unfortunately, I think right before the trade deadline ended, he and I got traded to Philly.

Speaker 1 And that was a disaster. I'm glad I took a bunch of weed with me because all I did was smoke weed the whole time and just chilling my chilling my condo.
So you said that.

Speaker 1 You said that your best games in the NBA were high. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 caught twice. In the NBA, you get three strikes.
So I had like

Speaker 1 2.75 strikes probably because you're allowed to turn yourself in one time. So they let me turn myself in twice actually because I was going through some stuff.

Speaker 1 But I was just able to kind of maneuver my way through the years and understanding, you know, smoking and then being able to detox fast enough, you know, eating clean and drinking a lot of water, staying in a steam room.

Speaker 1 And I was able just to manage it. So would you smoke right before the game and then just feel like it wouldn't be right before the game.

Speaker 1 So what it was is like we'll have like on a game day we'll have an 11 or 12 o'clock shoot around. So we'll walk through stuff for about an hour.
And then

Speaker 1 after that, I would go home, i'd smoke a joint then i would take a nap and then i'd wake up shower eat and bounce so it wasn't like right before it was probably within like four or five hours of the game possibly yeah did you ever get any pushback from your coaches or your teammates that didn't like you doing that no one really knew it wasn't something that i was really because it's you know it's illegal basically you know i mean so i had a couple teammates that you know on different teams that knew i smoked or would smoke with me and it was like i said it's it's not to really talk about anybody else or talking about myself, but it was something that happened in the NBA.

Speaker 1 You can say Stephen Jackson. You can just say it.
Yeah, Stephen. Oh, yeah.
Jack and I would, because he did. Jack and I would blow it down.

Speaker 1 That might be two. Like when he and I used to smoke, it might be two joints.
Yeah. It's interesting.

Speaker 1 I like the way that the NBA handles it better than the way the NFL does because it's really, it's a no-win situation for the league if they're suspending players for testing positive for pot. Right.

Speaker 1 Because it's not a performance-enhancing drug. No.
And all it does is just bring up your league in connection with somebody doing something illegal.

Speaker 1 So from the league side, I don't know why the NFL tests for it besides the fact that it's just a bargaining chip. Yeah, I think the reason why the NFL is so

Speaker 1 impactful when they come down on someone who fails to test is because they only get one test. So they know going into training camp, they're going to get that one test.

Speaker 1 That's how it used to be when I first came in the league where we'd get that one precinction test and it wasn't like they were promoting smoke, but they just wouldn't test for it the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 In the NBA, we get four random tests. So like I could hypothetically still be in the, because we can get tested up until the final.

Speaker 1 So I could be in the playoffs right now, smoke today, and possibly be tested tomorrow so it's really kind of like a random thing but like I said first time is you just go into the program um for 90 days no one's supposed to know I think that's a lot they probably tell your team second time is a $25,000 fine and they're supposed to now they act like you have like a real life problem like you're an addict or something right and then the third time is supposed to be a five-game suspension so luckily I retired before I got to the five games

Speaker 1 so you were fined a lot though in your career yeah I got fined for for that and you know for for really

Speaker 1 I lost a lot of money sticking up for my teammates, to be honest with you. And I think the only person to ever pay for one of my fines was Kobe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I protected a lot of dudes on my teammate because I grew up that family is everything. So my dad used to teach me, you know, if your brother and sister are going to fight, you fight.

Speaker 1 Even if they win, you fight. It's your family.
So I always... took my teammates as my family.
Right.

Speaker 1 So no one was ever direct, maybe early on, I think people would try me to see what I was about, but once I kind of knew that trying me was, you were going to be for a war.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I have two follow-up questions to that because it's interesting that you say it's like family. You also were on a ton of teams.

Speaker 1 So what was it like when you maybe have bad blood with a guy or shit talk a guy, and then the next year you're his teammate? You know

Speaker 1 what's weird about that is

Speaker 1 I think early on you kind of get, you kind of judge people before you know them and when you play against them and then getting the chance to know like J.J. Reddick.

Speaker 1 I didn't thought JJ Reddick was a dickhead. You know what I mean? Just straight up until I got a chance to play with him and one of the coolest dudes I've ever met, and still friends to this day.

Speaker 1 So I think, you know, I have other stories where guys I just thought were a certain way. Probably like people kind of think I'm a certain way.

Speaker 1 And then they meet me, like, oh, this dude's kind of chill. He's cool.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, you know, whether we had bad blood in the past where we weren't teammates, once we were teammates, we were families.

Speaker 1 And then the other question off of that is: do you think that that enforcer, bad boy, whatever you want to call it, role has kind of gone away in the NBA? Because it feels like it has.

Speaker 1 Like, there's not a lot of guys you can point to, like, don't go with that guy. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it has. I think the physicality as a whole is, you know, kind of like on a powder puff flag football level right now, which is unfortunate.
But I understand where the NBA is going.

Speaker 1 They want to see more scoring, so they kind of take the defense and the physicality out of the game and call a bunch of fouls.

Speaker 1 So, you know, the people who really just enjoy playing defense and enjoy physical play, like that game is kind of long gone. Right.
Who is your favorite player to shit talk?

Speaker 1 You know, you know, the one thing about me is I never really was a shit like, I'm just going to shit talk you. Like, if you start talking shit to me, I'll talk back.

Speaker 1 I was never, like, I always just, because I have a, I grew up a football player, so my mentality was just to always play hard, no matter what, no matter who I was, you know, because I was always guarding the best player.

Speaker 1 So it was never really like a back and forth, like

Speaker 1 shit-talking situation.

Speaker 1 You know, Kobe and I got in a couple scuffles, and that's how we kind of ended up becoming teammates, because he's just like, you know, anyone crazy enough to fuck with me is crazy enough to be my teammate.

Speaker 1 You know, so that's how we became teammates.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you brought up Kobe because I need to get to the bottom of something so for years and years we all thought that you put that ball in Kobe's face and he didn't flinch a bit and then about a year ago we got some alternate angles some new information came to light digging up that kind of that that kind of wild I don't know service journalism right and it looks from the other angle like

Speaker 1 it's not like the ball was right in his face you you kind of pump faked it to the side and he didn't move his head what is your recollection the ball is right in his face yeah you put that in his face on purpose.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you got punked.

Speaker 1 I guess if he didn't, you know what I mean? Like the thing that happened was like, if you, we were just going back and forth, and that was later in the season going into the playoffs

Speaker 1 in Orlando and the Lakers had just played in the finals the year before. So it was kind of like, okay,

Speaker 1 we're strapping up to see these guys in the finals. And playing against Kobe since I was at UCLA, he's just, he tries to mentally.
take over.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's already physically more gifted than anyone else, but he tries to mentally kind of like mind fuck you type stuff. And so he'll do little elbow you grab you cheap shots.

Speaker 1 And I just, and I kept for some reason getting called for. I'm just like, man, fuck, we're about to fight.
You know, fuck the game, whatever. Like, we're about to go at it.

Speaker 1 And it was just something that happened. Like, it wasn't like, all right, I'm going to fake the ball in his face type situation.
Like, I just did it. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So the fact that he didn't flinch,

Speaker 1 he's probably the only person in the world that probably wouldn't flinch. Probably him and Mike Tyson.
And

Speaker 1 he just didn't flinch.

Speaker 1 Like I said, it wasn't something that I planned or even thought about, so I I didn't even think about it at the time that he flinched. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like that that it didn't even cross my mind.

Speaker 1 You know, after the game and it's been talked about for the last 10 years, you know, realizing that, you know, if you fake a, you know, if I fake something at your guy over here, he might flinch.

Speaker 1 You know, it's because it's become a gift, right? And it lives on forever. Right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 But the fact that I put a ball right in his face, he didn't flinch is just, like I said, he's one of the rare ones.

Speaker 1 So on Kobe, you mentioned earlier that he was the only teammate of yours to pay one of your fines.

Speaker 1 That's really interesting because Kobe doesn't feel like that type of teammate.

Speaker 1 Every story about Kobe is he's maybe surly, he's very competitive, he's you know, it's Kobe's way and he's kind of isolated, similar to Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 But it sounds like you guys had a deeper relationship. Yeah, Kobe and I were cool, man.

Speaker 1 I think once we became teammates and got to see him on a day-to-day basis and just chat him up, he's real cool and real down-to-earth and very personable.

Speaker 1 But I just think he gives off this persona as just a straight killer, which he is, you know what I mean? But if you're able to kind of peel the layers back, very cool. I mean, for an example,

Speaker 1 I took my twins turned 10 last November, and

Speaker 1 he worked them out for their birthday, you know what I mean? So I took him out to Orange County and surprised them and little stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Then after that, he sent their whole team shoes and warm-ups and all that kind of stuff. So Kobe is a real cool dude.

Speaker 1 I just think the persona he puts off was always just, you know, it's game time type situation. But when he's chilling, he's chill.
What is Kobe like as a personal trainer for 10-year-olds?

Speaker 1 I got to expect that he's just

Speaker 1 Incredible. You know what I mean? Like the little skill work they were doing and then he made them run at the end and one of the twins didn't want to when he made him and I loved it.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So it was just his attention to detail, it doesn't waver no matter how old you are. And I think that's great.

Speaker 1 So have you ever looked back at all the fines that you had and like counted them up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, well, someone else did it for me. I think it was like

Speaker 1 around $600,000. Damn.
Crazy. That sucks.
Ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Where does that money go? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 I feel like if you're taking my money, you're going to take it. I should be able to say whether, you know, I should be able to pick the charitable cause or send it to my charitable cause.

Speaker 1 You know, who knows where that money went? David Stearns Pockets. Was there a specific ref that

Speaker 1 you knew was going to be like, oh, this guy does not like Matt Barnes? It's going to be on tonight.

Speaker 1 Because there's a lot of stuff about, you know, the Rockets had their whole.

Speaker 1 Scott Foster, yeah, he's a dick.

Speaker 1 He's always been it. He's just really arrogant.

Speaker 1 But I just think overall, you know, I think you earn a reputation whether good or bad. And I earned that reputation.
So my feud with the refs wasn't very good.

Speaker 1 I think the further along I got in my career, it improved because I got to know him on a first-name basis and really talked to him. But

Speaker 1 I wouldn't change anything. It's just I'm that competitive while I'm playing.
So if I get a T here and there, I'm not tripping. Right.
So you said you played football. What position were you in?

Speaker 1 I was a receiver. So football is actually my first sport.
I was recruited by everyone to play football. I led the nation touchdowns.
I was all-American my senior year.

Speaker 1 I just looked at longevity and figured, okay, if I got a chance to go pro, probably it would last last longer in basketball.

Speaker 1 I guess you made the right choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's interesting because I would definitely describe your style of play as if you're in a college gym and you see the basketball team come in and play pickup.

Speaker 1 The football team? Yeah, yeah, against the

Speaker 1 football team comes in to play like a little shoot around against the basketball team.

Speaker 1 Like very physical, not like you're not shooting the lights out, even though I think you're a pretty good shooter, right? But they just get in there and they just go to work.

Speaker 1 They go to white.

Speaker 1 I played tackle football on the streets when I was little. You know, my dad, you know, made it all the way up the ranks and was cut by the 49ers.
So football came first.

Speaker 1 Basketball didn't really come around until I played here and there, but I started taking it seriously in junior high, going into high school. But football was from the jump.

Speaker 1 And I just think that that mentality, that toughness, that mindset is what I just played my whole career.

Speaker 1 And I think it helped me throughout my career, obviously, you know, being able to last as long as I did. Yeah.
Were you responsible for Kevin Durant going to Golden State?

Speaker 1 How did you guys? So I was talking. Yeah.
There was

Speaker 1 him and I were talking. I remember because I was with

Speaker 1 the Clippers and he was with OKC and we'd always battle. And I used to always just tell him, you know, the only person in the world could stop you is Russell Westbrook.
Yep. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 In 2014, you said that too. I used to tell him the same thing.
Yeah, I used to tell him that all the time. And the first versus the thunder.
Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 And then we started talking, and he's just like, you know,

Speaker 1 where are you going to go? And I'm just like, let's go to the Warriors. You know what I mean? And then obviously.
That thing you told me in 2014, I've been thinking about it. Obviously,

Speaker 1 I think Draymond and Steph got involved, and I think Clay said it two or three words.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day, they just ran out of money. You know what I mean? So it was crazy because then I ended up signing a three-year deal with Sacramento.

Speaker 1 They trade Boogie and prove that they're not trying to win no more. And I told Vladi, like, I don't have too much time to help rebuild.
So they basically bought me out.

Speaker 1 KD gets hurt

Speaker 1 like the day after I get bought out and I end up in Golden State.

Speaker 1 Did he ever bring that up? That you said that to him?

Speaker 1 No. Like I said, I mean, we're cool.
So we talk about a lot of stuff. But I think

Speaker 1 Whether I was the one that turned on the light bulb or he already had hit in his head I just thought that he would be dope with with Golden State Yeah, were you surprised with how quickly he fit in at Golden State?

Speaker 1 I think because he's a special he's a selfless superstar, you know I mean, I think you could tell that with Russell Westbrook obviously he should have been the one taking most of the shots all the time, but it wasn't really that was the case, and I think with Golden State, too, I think people don't understand like you know, Stephen Clay playing so amazing now that KD went down, but with the team that's that loaded, everyone has to kind of take a step back.

Speaker 1 And obviously, KD is the best player in the world, so he doesn't take as much of a step back but you know other guys do but he's selfless you know so he can kind of fit in and blend in anywhere and be just as effective as you need to be you also keep in touch with all those guys because uh i saw that you when kd and draymond got into some you know that fight that they had that i think draymond ended up getting uh suspended by the team you texted both of them right and what what did you think like what went wrong there in that part of their relationship

Speaker 1 it's hard to say not being there, but I just think, you know, knowing Draymond,

Speaker 1 we're very similar from a standpoint.

Speaker 1 You know, we play with our heart on our sleeve and we're emotional and we lead by example, but also, you know, we have the ability to tell anybody anything because I think we play so hard that people respect that.

Speaker 1 You know, I was never the most talented or highest paid player on my team, but when I spoke, guys listened because I just played so hard. I think it's similar to Draymond.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, you know, his gift is his curse sometimes, being too passionate and over the top.

Speaker 1 And obviously obviously, the things he said is, you know, not things you should probably say to another grown man, especially a teammate. Right.
You know, which would probably rub KD the wrong way.

Speaker 1 But I think at the end of the day, KD knew Dre well enough to understand that

Speaker 1 what he said was messed up. He shouldn't have said it.
Obviously, he apologized or whatever. But, you know, it's not something that's going to hold up this championship train.
Right.

Speaker 1 Since you know that whole crew,

Speaker 1 well, do you think that KD is going to want to come back or you think he's out? I don't know, man. You hear a lot.

Speaker 1 You hear speculations that him and Kyrie coming out here. You hear uh him and kawaii going to the clippers um

Speaker 1 and then to me why not just win as many championships as possible with you know with that team you know so i think the only thing that can possibly detour him and we don't this is something i don't we don't really talk about but i'm saying no matter what he does with golden state it's going to be steph's team steph's legacy and could you feel that being on the

Speaker 1 you just it's you know he was he was the one drafted there and steph is kind of like the golden child of the nba you know what i mean with all dude and he should be.

Speaker 1 But I just think if there was anything that kind of maybe,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't even say bother him, but just kind of I want to do it on my own type situation. I think that would be the only thing because, like I said, they win three in a row.
They win four.

Speaker 1 They win five. This is Steph Curry's team.
And, you know, they are fortunate enough to get KD. Right.
And you mentioned Clay earlier, throwing a few words.

Speaker 1 I'm fascinated by Clay because every time he gets hot, it's like I actually think it's the

Speaker 1 more fun to watch this

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 than anybody because it's almost like an unconscious level where he's not letting go he's not dribbling he's not doing all he's doing is shooting the ball from anywhere and it's going in and he has those shots where the rim there I mean the net doesn't even move incredible what what type of guy is Clay Clay super cool down to earth chill

Speaker 1 you know once you get him to open up funny in his own way without kind of trying to be funny just a funny dude and just really go with the flow and I don't think people

Speaker 1 most people do but some people don't know how important he is to that team because you got to think every single game he's the one one taking the other players You know that best guard Which is you know saving Steph's legs to have these 40 and 50 point games and 33 points and a half because Steph is you know Steph is guarding maybe the third or fourth option because Clay is guarding you know the killer.

Speaker 1 Right. That's interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Out of all the places that you played over your career, what is the best sports town?

Speaker 1 Good question. Thank you.
That is a good question. I know.

Speaker 1 You know, it's hard. I mean, I loved playing in L.A., but there's so much to do in L.A.

Speaker 1 The Bay was amazing. Even the first time around when I was in the Bay, when we, you know, we only made the first, we won the first round that we believe team, but the support there was insane.

Speaker 1 So I would probably say the Bay. Yeah.
I'd probably say the Bay. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to do something with you here because you played for so many teams for so many years that you have maybe the best resume of teammates. So I'm going to list them by position.

Speaker 1 And if you can tell me who's the best in that position, and if you have a story about any of these guys, throw it out there.

Speaker 1 So point guard, you played with Steph Curry, Steve Nash, Chris Paul, and Baron Davis. And Alan Iverson.
And Alan Iverson. Well, I put him under shooting guard, but yeah.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Best pure scorer, Steph. Okay.

Speaker 1 Best all-around point guard I ever played with, Baron Davis. Really? When he's healthy, no question.
If Baron Davis would have had a healthy career, he'd be talked about as one of the greats.

Speaker 1 There's no question about that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Allen Iverson was a killer.

Speaker 1 Someone so small, being able to do what he did and go against Giants.

Speaker 1 Steve was just the ultimate get my guys going first and pick and choose my spots. And then Chris Paul is probably one of the most competitive people next to Kobe that I've ever played with.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Schootingard, we'll skip over because you already talked about Clay and Kobe.

Speaker 1 Small Ford, Kevin Durant, and Paja.

Speaker 1 Paja, 6'10,

Speaker 1 just shoots shoots that thing. But, you know, Kevin Durant to me is

Speaker 1 the best player in the world right now and will probably go down as one of the most efficient, effective, offensive players we've ever seen. So you think he's online too much?

Speaker 1 No, I don't mind it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I think it's hard to judge situations like that because we hear and see everything, even though people think we're super busy and you shouldn't pay attention, block it out.

Speaker 1 But until you have everyone talking shit to you or everyone trying to pull, you never really know how you're going to react.

Speaker 1 And I'm someone that, obviously not on KD's level, but when, you know, people come at me about like family or my kids or something, like, I'll shoot right back at them. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 To me, I didn't agree with the burner account. Like, to me, if you're going to say it, just say it from your account.

Speaker 1 People think they can say anything to us because we're on a certain level, which is not, because at the end of the day, we're all men. You know, we're all humans.
So I don't mind him being online.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. I think most players,

Speaker 1 they have to look at some of that criticism. It's impossible to escape it.

Speaker 1 And his only crime was kind of getting caught responding to it when a lot of people, they just pretend like like they don't see it and they're like oh i can't respond but then that bubbles up inside you and it creates like different problems so i used to like go online and look for people talking trash before games to kind of get motivated

Speaker 1 i was honestly because you know i was the one you know on the other team that i always got it was funny because i'd get booed everywhere we went and my kids started traveling with me at the end they're like daddy why do you always get booed I'm just because it's like, you know, daddy and my kids liked wrestling at the time.

Speaker 1 I was like, daddy's like the Undertaker going against Hulk Hogan every time.

Speaker 1 Like, they boo me because I do a good job, You know, because they don't like me because I'm going to try to go beat up their best player, so to speak, or lock their best player down.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, okay, so they boo you because you're good. I'm like, yeah, they boo me because I do a good job.
That's a good way to spend it. You know, so

Speaker 1 it just, it just kind of is what it is. All right, Power Forward's loaded.
Powell, Amari Stoddermeyer, Chris Weber, Blake Griffin, and Draymond.

Speaker 1 Now, let me just tell you right now, we're personal friends with Blake Griffin, so you better see something in case of him. DG is my big cat's my guy.

Speaker 1 Is it Big Cat? Big Big Cat. That's his nickname.
Fuck. Wow.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to have words with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Chris Weber should be a Hall of Famer 2010 guy.

Speaker 1 Very skilled.

Speaker 1 Blake, probably one of the most incredible athletes I've ever been around and probably

Speaker 1 has

Speaker 1 the fullest package out of all those guys, which can do.

Speaker 1 It kind of sounded weird. But he'd been able to do everything.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Nah,

Speaker 1 being a point forward to being able to shoot, to be able to pass, to be able to post up, play defense.

Speaker 1 Blake probably had it all.

Speaker 1 Who else did you say, Chris? Yeah, Amari and Draymond and Powell. Amari was a monster.

Speaker 1 Did you ever get in a wine bath with him? Never. Never got in a bath with no other man.

Speaker 1 Amari was a monster. When he first came in the league, he was taking over.

Speaker 1 Did Powell smell? Powell looks like a guy who smells.

Speaker 1 I didn't sniff Powell.

Speaker 1 I mean, some Euros I play with, man, they would get in the shower and be out of the fucking shower before the water hit them. Like, yeah,

Speaker 1 you make too much money to be smelling like a bums nutsack. Paja.
Paja seems like that.

Speaker 1 Powell is very talented, very skilled. Very skilled.
And then Draymond. Draymond is the...

Speaker 1 The ultimate glue guy. I don't think people realize how important he is to that franchise.
You know, you can lose certain pieces and still be okay, but he holds everyone accountable.

Speaker 1 You know, just a real blue-collar worker that has mastered that point-forward position. Yeah, all right.
Last up center, Dwight Howard, Marcusol, and DeMarcus Cousins.

Speaker 1 It's crazy how many good players you're doing. And Shaq.

Speaker 1 And Shaq.

Speaker 1 Boogie is the most skilled big man I ever played with. Temperamental? Yes, but I love that about him.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, and I think going to Golden State for many reasons was the best thing in his career because he's never been on a winning team in the professional ranks.

Speaker 1 So I think to see how you act day to day as a winner and a professional, I I think that'll help him mature.

Speaker 1 Shaq,

Speaker 1 I got to battle against Shaq when he was Shaq, but when I played with him, he was Shaq in Phoenix and he was, you know, kind of on the back side. Great guy.
Yeah, great guy.

Speaker 1 The biggest seven-foot child I ever met, like a practical joker to the utmost.

Speaker 1 Did you ever see his feet? Horrible feet.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Horrible feet.
Bronze got bad feet, too. Horrible feet.
Bobby Jackson probably has the worst feet I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Like his toenails are the same color as this black table right here, and they're like three inches thick.

Speaker 1 You need like a chainsaw to cut them things. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you said so.
And Marcus Oli was a little bit more. Marcus Oliver.
Very skilled, big, very intelligent.

Speaker 1 He'll throw his ass into you when he's boxing you out. Big, too.
Like, yeah, but you don't realize how big he is. Yeah.
I mean, just going through that list of people, it's impressive.

Speaker 1 How many teams did you play for?

Speaker 1 Eight teams, and I played for a couple teams twice. Eight teams.

Speaker 1 At what point when you get to a new town do you think it's okay for me to lay down some roots here?

Speaker 1 To me,

Speaker 1 I never really got a chance to really show my full potential, I think, until I played with the Clippers, where I was consistently playing all the time.

Speaker 1 And I was playing at the end of the games, and I was, you know, kind of known for a 3 and D kind of guy.

Speaker 1 I laid down roots where I liked. You know what I mean? So no matter what, I always had somewhere a place in L.A.
and I always had a place up north, whether that was Sacramento or the Bay.

Speaker 1 So it's still the same now. I have a house in L.A.
and a house in the Bay. So those are the only places I really felt because I'm a straight California dude.

Speaker 1 So if I ever had to play at a state, it was always temporary. Right.

Speaker 1 I was reviewing some film on you earlier today and the scuffle that you got into, the fight you got into with Ray for Austin. When you were on the Suns, he was on the Rockets.
That fight included you,

Speaker 1 Steve Nash, Ray for Austin, Tracy McGrady,

Speaker 1 and Shaq coming in and pushing people around. But I was mostly impressed with Steve Nash being like 5'11 ⁇ .
He pulled like the Van Gundy in the

Speaker 1 Larry Johnston in the Lazar Morning. He just held on to his foot.
So can you walk us through what happened in that fight and then like the aftermath?

Speaker 1 You know, like we said earlier, how long did it take you to bury the hatchet if you ever did after that?

Speaker 1 He hit me with the cheap shot. He hit me in the balls the time before down.

Speaker 1 So the next time he tried to set a screen, I tried to just run him over like a football player, and I didn't get to run him all the way over. I kind of just was able to kind of throw an elbow at him.

Speaker 1 And then just the unfortunate thing in the NBA and with me is if if you throw the first punch, you're going to get fined heavy.

Speaker 1 So I was always, I was ready to fight, but I wouldn't want to throw the first punch, especially with me.

Speaker 1 First of all, they probably try to put me in jail, but I know that's like a six-figure fine for me.

Speaker 1 So I figure if I get someone to, if I'm going to fight someone and they swing first, and retaliation is, I got to protect myself. But that was crazy because,

Speaker 1 you know, it was just a lot of chest bumping and pushing, but like when Shaq pushed the whole pile of like 10 people, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 Like Shaq pushed one person, like the whole momentum of the pile went towards the stands. Like, Shaq is just so big and powerful.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 But I've been knowing Rafael for a long time because my AU team was based out of Fresno when he was out that way. So it was never like a

Speaker 1 if I see you again type shit. It just never went that far.
You know what I mean? So

Speaker 1 nothing's been spoken of since, really. Okay, so my last question is: Seek Geek question.
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Speaker 1 Speaking of beefs, are you still, where are you at with Derek Fisher? Dead on site? No, no.

Speaker 1 Like I said, the fight had to go down. To me, people don't really understand the situation.
Like, I divorced my ex-wife, and then

Speaker 1 she was

Speaker 1 hurt, mad. I think she was kind of at the similar place in our relationship with me.
Just kind of, I think we both realized the ships had sailed. So I just took the first step and divorced her.

Speaker 1 And then whether it was spite, vengefulness, whatever the situation was, she ends up messing with him. But I don't hear about it.

Speaker 1 And to me,

Speaker 1 I know that once we're done, she's going to find someone else. But I think from a standpoint of, you know, if we're teammates, just at least have the respect to come say something to me.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I think that's fair. I didn't agree so much.
I mean, I didn't agree so much with him dating my ex-wife. But what really pissed me off was he was staying in my house with my kids.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So to me, everyone knows how important my kids are.

Speaker 1 And he has twins that are a year or two older than my kids. So, like, just if the roles were reversed, which I would never do, but you know, imagine me just kind of going playing dad with your kids.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, that shit's not right to anyone. So, that's what prompted me to,

Speaker 1 you know, put a couple hands on him.

Speaker 1 Driving 95.

Speaker 1 And that's another lie. So, Kanye rapped about that shit, but I didn't.
But it blew off. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I drove 90 miles. Like, no, I drove from Marina Del Rey to Redondo Beach was like 15 minutes.
Oh, okay. So, it wasn't a short ass.

Speaker 1 It wasn't, yeah, but I don't, he somehow it was, I drove 90 miles and it's it's urban legend. It's a lot funny

Speaker 1 about it. Right, to think that I'm going to drive an hour and a half, hour and 45 minutes,

Speaker 1 mad, right? You grabbed like a mountain dew on the way. A lot of energy, like really thought about it, injected into my veins.
Got a couple like bags of combos

Speaker 1 on the road, changing videos

Speaker 1 and staying mad. So actually what kind of squashed it for me was, you know, he's still with my ex and they're planning to get married and I have no problem wish them the best.

Speaker 1 But after that happened, my kids liked him.

Speaker 1 You know, because Derek Derek was cool outside of the snake movie pool dumb you know to me he was a cool teammate you know someone responsible and to me that's someone I would want my kids around if you're gonna go out that like I want someone that I know will take care and keep my kids priority first but my kids are like you know dad we really like Derek and we think you guys should become friends so it was to a standpoint where we wouldn't say nothing because I would come home in the offseason he was with my ex so he would be at their football games and their basketball games and it was just awkward like I would come in he would leave or I'd come in he'd have his head down the whole time like never just come come say nothing to me.

Speaker 1 So after one of their football games, like all the parents are walking back to the car, and it's my turn to take the twins for my ex.

Speaker 1 So we have to go get a bag from her car, and Derek is kind of like,

Speaker 1 please don't kick my ass. 15 feet behind us, just kind of walking slow, and I'm just like,

Speaker 1 yo, come here for a second. And everyone kind of like,

Speaker 1 fight him again. And I just kind of pulled him to the side and kind of basically explained what I, you know.
To me, messing with my wife, it's whatever, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 But, you know, you being around my kids and not telling me was the reason why we got into this altercation. And, you know, he said his little piece and we shook hands and we've been cool ever since.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Yeah, I wish them nothing but the best.
Yeah, I wish them nothing but the best. Yeah.
All right, my last question.

Speaker 1 Since you played in the NBA, we're contractually obligated to ask you a LeBron question. Okay.
Do you think people don't want to play with LeBron James? Because he's an alcoholic? No, no, no. Okay.

Speaker 1 Sorry. We don't say that.
I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, every time you hear it, it's from a source or someone close to, you know what I mean? If you don't want to, like,

Speaker 1 I find it hard to believe. I think the only thing superstars are different.
I've never been a superstar, so I can't think like a superstar, but I know some superstars are kind of ego-driven.

Speaker 1 So, you know, playing with LeBron, no matter how good you are, it's going to be his team.

Speaker 1 So, I think that would be the only knock with some guys holding it back, like, talent-wise, because he's on the back side of his career, still one of the better players. He's not the best to me.

Speaker 1 He's not the best player anymore. So, you play with someone like KD or you have a Kawhi play with him.
Guys that are better than him, but it's still LeBron's team.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that bothers guys or not. But, like I said, I can't really, to me, he's a, you know, one of the, obviously one of the greatest players of all time.

Speaker 1 Top three, him, Kobe, and MJ are all in that mix to me.

Speaker 1 Pass, you know, past first guy who's top 10 on the scoring list, in the assist list. I would have loved to play with someone like LeBron.

Speaker 1 But like I said, I was a role player, so I can kind of fit in anywhere. But as far as other stars trying to play with them, I mean, that would be the only thing I can think of.

Speaker 1 But most of the time, I think people just try to create. stuff to talk about to kind of raise the parade.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's literally our job. That's funny as it is.
LeBron gives us like 25% of our content. Yeah, I mean, he's a.

Speaker 1 A lot comes with being one of the greatest. Yes, it's true.
All right, Matt Barnes, thank you so much. This is a ton of fun.
No problem, man. Thanks for having me, fellas.

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Speaker 1 You're going to want to watch Monday's episode on video, and you can do it at barsalgold.com/slash PMT. Okay, first up, locker room talk.
Lamar Odom. He had sex with 2,000 women.

Speaker 1 Not that much when you think about Wilt, but he got addicted to porn so much that he got to the end of the internet. He watched every porn video on the internet.
So he kissed the wall and came back.

Speaker 1 At the time, yes, that's super impressive to do. So he is like the Wilt Chamberlain of his own hand.
Right. He jerked off his own penis 20,000 times.
I kind of feel bad for Lamar Odom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I guess. I don't know.
I guess, as, all right, let me rephrase that.

Speaker 1 I feel as bad for Lamar Odom as bad as you could feel for a man who's had sex 2,000 times and watched every porn video on the internet. And made millions and millions of dollars.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Probably squandered it.

Speaker 1 Yep, yeah, probably, probably. I was just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 Those go hand in hand kind of thing. When you almost die at the bunny ranch, when you do die at the bunny ranch and come back,

Speaker 1 that would lead me to believe that you're not making the most financial

Speaker 1 decisions. Yeah, and the encore is watching every porn video.
Yeah, but he's okay, and he's telling the tale about it. Just wrote a book.
Okay, so maybe he's got the money again. Yeah,

Speaker 1 get a nice little advance out of that. Enough to go visit that bunny ranch.
This is a wild thing to just throw out there. Two thousand times, two thousand different women is a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm doing the math right now of how many times I've had.

Speaker 1 I would have to live to be. How old was Moses?

Speaker 1 450 years old. Yeah, about his age.
Mm-hmm. I don't even think that would do it.
Yeah, because he would be old. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, but at some point you get so old that it's a novelty. You get famous for being old.
True. And then you can find girls that have any sort of fetish if you're famous enough.
Like a circus act.

Speaker 1 Come fuck the old guy. Exactly.
Yeah, that actually, that worked for Hugh Hefner for the last like 20 years of his life. Yep.

Speaker 1 And at some point in your life, you would get rich if you lived to be 400 years old, I would assume. Yeah, I would say so.
You just play the lottery every day.

Speaker 1 Just buy a shitload of penny stocks, play the lottery every day. You're going to strike it rich.
Buy Bitcoin. You're going to have a solid five to six months in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 And then at that point, you make up all the losses. Get hot.
Yeah, you're going to be gambling hot for a couple months. All right, we have a respect the biz at Beth Page Black

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 Long Island, in Long Island, on.

Speaker 1 In Long Island. Inside Long Island.
A lot of people mad about that. Don't care about that.
I tried to tell PFT in real time. That's something I don't care about.
It's in Long Island.

Speaker 1 Wait, you're in line, and you're so you're in Long Island.

Speaker 1 I can't do these things. I say we were in Long Island.
We were standing in Long Island interviewing Brooks Kepka. We were inside the island.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Okay.
Either way. What were we even talking about? We're talking about the setup that the PGA championship has for John.

Speaker 1 Let's say you're swimming in the ocean and you swim and you get onto the shore. Right.
Would you say you're in the shore? No, you're down the shore. Yeah.
No, I'm on the shore. That's onto the shore.

Speaker 1 I'm standing on the shore. You're on the shore.
No, you're down the shore.

Speaker 1 You're in the ocean and you're swimming to Long Island. You get onto the water.
You are now in the water. Wait, wait, wait.
No, you're in the water. You're in the water and you get onto the shore.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Onto the beach.
No, you're in the water. You're onto the island.
You get down the shore. You are on Long Island.
No, because

Speaker 1 when you get in the shore,

Speaker 1 but we took a train there. If I had swam there, then you're right.
I would have been on the island. Bridges? No.
On bridges? Yeah, but we took a train there, so I was

Speaker 1 always on there. You're acting like that.
I was in there. You can't take a bridge to an island.

Speaker 1 Yes, you can.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I went into Long Island.
All right. We didn't land in Long Island.
Long Island landed in us. This sucks.
I know that people like this is a, I bet you this is like a whole BuzzFeed quiz.

Speaker 1 Which, which, are you in or on Long Island? 27 times you've been in Long Island, but been wrong. Which verb are you? Take our quiz.
All right, so they have media tenth massages. Fuck that.
Whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm off of Long Island. That's it.
Yeah, I'm off of it. You're out.
You're out of Long Island.

Speaker 1 All right, this one's big, though. Thoughts and prayers to Colin Coward.
Colin Coward is constantly going after Baker Mayfield. Now he's going after Baker Mayfield's wide receiver in Odell Beckham.

Speaker 1 He did top 10 plays of Odell Beckham's career, and it was just

Speaker 1 moments. And it was nine things of Odell Beckham just freaking out, and then the catch.
Yeah, the boat, I think, was number two. Okay.
The hotel room was something like number four. So he's trolling.

Speaker 1 He's trolling, essentially. He's trolling.
He was making the argument: like, I don't know if we can consider him a generational talent

Speaker 1 if my dumbass brain only remembers nine weird things. Right.

Speaker 1 So only problem with Colin Coward doing that is Odo Beckham's got receipts, and Colin Coward texted Odell Beckham when he was traded to the Browns and said, congrats, emoji prayer, which did not think Coward was an emoji guy.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Odell Beckham said, crazy, and then Coward said, kick-ass, I'm rooting for you. That's a funny way to root for somebody.
To just trash them.

Speaker 1 It was like the Price is Right, not the Price is Right Board, the Family Feud Board. Yes.

Speaker 1 So he turned it into a game show of how many things he can name about Odell Beckham that don't include him rooting for him. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like seeing that. And then Baker jumped in, too.
Went off on him. He said, once again, you're a clown.
Now I know you're just trying to get me fired up. Most memorable moments.

Speaker 1 He's 26, and his greatest moments are ahead of him. You forget the kids and people he inspires.
That goes much further than football. He did a Rico Bosco.

Speaker 1 There's some things bigger than sports. Yeah.
I like that by Baker. Some things are bigger than football, buddy.
That's powerful.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to do some of my top 10 Colin Coward moments off the top of my head. Okay.

Speaker 1 When he said that Sean Taylor deserved to get murdered after he got shot. How about when he said Puerto Rican people are stupid and can't manage Dominican people?

Speaker 1 They're stupid and can't manage baseball teams. Yeah, that was another good one.
How about when he got his shit pushed in by LeVar Ball? Ooh, that was good.

Speaker 1 How about when he dyed his hair after he moved to Hollywood and tried to pretend that he didn't? That's a good one.

Speaker 1 So those are three great memories of Colin Coward that we have just off the top of our head.

Speaker 1 Oh, and I have one more, actually, PFT, because this one is just, I'm going to roast Colin Coward by reading Colin Coward's words back to him.

Speaker 1 Nike is so upset with Zion staying with Pelicans, they're changing their slogan to just don't do it. That's fucking good.
So, Colin Coward, I just use your words against you, you loser. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're firing up. We're fiery today.
I'm fired up by

Speaker 1 the side. I don't like having an oxygen mask.
I don't like

Speaker 1 how your nose turns up at the end.

Speaker 1 Oh, Colin Coward? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, what is one of those? No, Colin Coward. You could jump a ski person off that thing.

Speaker 1 I could catch 40 meters off Colin Coward's nose. Cow turd.

Speaker 1 Or be in L.A. if you want to talk to us man-to-man.
Yeah. Little rat nose.
We should show up to his nose. Come on the podcast.
Yeah, come on the podcast. Hey, Colin Coward.

Speaker 1 Everyone tweet Colin Cowardman. Come on the podcast if you're a man.
Why don't we just show up at the Fox Sports Studios with a desk that says, Colin Coward sucks, sucks, change my mind.

Speaker 1 Come on the podcast, Colin Coward. Change our mind.
We will do a different top 10 for you when you come on the podcast. It'll be the same things in different order, though.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Your nose is going to be noise. We're just saying with a British accent.

Speaker 1 All right, last up before we get to FAQs and Game of Thrones, we just had a quick this league because Jay Butt posted an Instagram that said it was a heart emoji or said to Philly and my teammates, thank you, heart, heart.

Speaker 1 So he's gone. You think that's what that means? Well, no, everyone freaked out.
Like, oh my God, Jimmy Butler's already gone. Yeah.
I think he's just saying thanks for a good season.

Speaker 1 He just said, thanks, Philly. Thanks.
He didn't say, like, wait, was there a plane emoji? Check his bio. Is there a plane emoji in his bio?

Speaker 1 Because if so, that means that he's, well, he does travel a lot. It says to Philly and my teammates, thank you.
But it was all caps, thank you.

Speaker 1 Okay, no plane emoji in the bio.

Speaker 1 So he has not taken off yet. He seems like a guy that would update that thing a lot.
Has he deleted any pictures of him with his Sixers teammates? No, because he has none. Okay, none.
Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 Here's a fun fact about Jaybutt. He's got more pictures with Mark Wahlberg's daughter than he does with Joelle and Bede.
Interesting. Very interesting.
So, yeah, everyone freaked out. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I kind of want the Bulls to re-sign Jimmy Butler so they can just be like mediocrely shitty again. Yeah.
It'd be kind of funny. Yeah.
And we can just debate

Speaker 1 how good he is. Get out of the lottery for the next 10 years.
Why not? Just go back. Just good enough to not get in there.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you have to go back to move to exactly where you were, which is second round losing in a five-game series. And bring Derek Rose back, too.
Yeah, why not? Get the band back together.

Speaker 1 All right. FAQs, Game of Throne

Speaker 1 spoilers. Spoiler alert.
We're going to do Game of Throne preview.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that we're calling it spoilers and the fact that we're predicting what's going to happen because we're going to be so right. Right.

Speaker 1 So we don't actually know anything, but we do, we're going to be right, probably. Well, no, Hank will be wrong, but I'll be right.

Speaker 1 FAQ, what are your work schedules for days when you record the show versus when you don't? Do you do more prep for football season or non-football season? Special shout out to Future Dad Cat.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. I think we do

Speaker 1 more television watching during football season, obviously, because we're watching football all day.

Speaker 1 So a lot of times we'll be in the office doing prep. That's prep.
That's major I prep for us.

Speaker 1 On

Speaker 1 NBA and NHL playoff nights, we record like around midnight. Yeah, we're

Speaker 1 right now. It's 12.20 a.m.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I would say most days that we record, we come in a little later, stay a lot later, and then Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I usually pick like two days, Monday, Wednesday, out of Monday, Wednesday, or Friday, I'll leave at like four, which is always like, whoa, this is normal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we typically get in the office about anywhere between 10 and 11.
Yeah. Is that about right? 10, 11.
Yeah. And then till midnight on days that we record.
What was the prep? Oh, yeah, we prep

Speaker 1 the same amount all year. That's maximum prep because we love you.
No days off. No days off.
We even prep on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.

Speaker 1 We do simulated shows yes we we we put the tape on the on the uh rug yeah we run plays hypothetical question for big cat uh-oh

Speaker 1 if there were to be beef between a rod and j-lo versus jay cutler and kristen cavalari whose side would you choose a rod and j-lo you don't have a financial relationship with the cutlers cutler jay cutler has not responded to any of my texts in eight months if he responded to my texts it would get a little bit more difficult i'll admit that um What if it was one of Chris and Calvaleri's children that sneezed on you

Speaker 1 on the train? That would be a problem. That would be an issue.
That would be an issue. Vaccinate your kids.
Yes.

Speaker 1 FAQ, is it just.

Speaker 1 If Jay Cutler texts me back, then I'd probably be like, I love you, dude. What if Jay Cutler said, I'd be right back.
I'd fall right back into that trap. What if he said, hey, I'm a big fan of yours.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. We're best friends again if you don't vaccinate your kids.

Speaker 1 I'd probably say no. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'd definitely say no. Strong old man.
Ties into this question.

Speaker 1 As huge sports fans, do you guys ever sit back and think how surreal it is that your platform has allowed you to meet so many professional athletes and even have close relationships with some? Yes.

Speaker 1 I think it's surreal for them to be able to meet me.

Speaker 1 No, it is fucking weird. It's very, very weird, and it's very rare.
Like, it's just all very weird. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things where if you think about it too much, it's going to really freak you out.

Speaker 1 It's like thinking about the universe sometimes. Right.
Just don't think about how vast that universe is. And I'm starting to freak myself out already and how infinitesimally small we are.

Speaker 1 But yeah, if you just don't think about it too much, then you're not going to psych yourself out. Yeah, the one good thing is I feel like if we

Speaker 1 partied with the athletes, I think it would get bad. Do you know what I mean? Like if we were partying with our athletes that are friends, it'd be like, whoa, dude, do you think you're an athlete now?

Speaker 1 We just have them on the pod. And, you know, hang out with them when they're in town.
But don't like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 If we were at the club with Blake Griffin, don't you think it would be like, you think you're too cool? I would just be, I don't belong here right now. Right.
And I'm not like, I love Blake.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, that's just a random example. But, like, it would be like, hey, you've overstepped where you should be here.
Yes, that's very fair.

Speaker 1 FAQ, is it just me or is the audio quality of Electric Avenue on Fridays a lot better than Mondays and Wednesdays? That's called Friday.

Speaker 1 Am I just crazy, or is this an elaborate ploy to make Friday mornings better? No, that's just your brain just putting on a sweet filter because you know it's the weekend. Yes, that's Friday.

Speaker 1 Everything sounds better on the weekend. It's actually

Speaker 1 there, it actually is. It's better?

Speaker 1 I usually edit Monday and Wednesday, so I have like the Electric Avenue that I've always used. And then Liam will edit on Friday because of school scenes.

Speaker 1 So he has a different, like,

Speaker 1 whenever he downloaded the Electric Avenue,

Speaker 1 I guess it's just higher quality. Holy shit.
I have,

Speaker 1 that's insane. The one that I've used is the one that I've used since like the.
Can we upgrade it? No, I like having the Friday version a little bit different. I like a little treat.

Speaker 1 Here, verbal meme. This guy's got a good ear.
Verbal meme, Monday and Wednesdays, Electric Avenue. Drake.

Speaker 1 Fridays, Electric Avenue. There you go.
Drake again.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. That's crazy that that guy figured it out.

Speaker 1 I thought for a second when Hank said that it was a different version, I thought that Hank wrote in the question to himself just so he could get that out there. No, no.

Speaker 1 I think that person figured it out. So, Mondays and Wednesdays, we use the Spotify version, and then Fridays we use the title version.
No, Spotify version versus

Speaker 1 files are so flip that. I mean, in theory, that's what you're saying.
Spotify is the one that's great. Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 And then everything else is just. It's still around? I don't think so.
Yeah, no, it is. It is? Title's great.

Speaker 1 No, no free ads, but it's actually great. Okay.
Great rap interviews, good podcasts.

Speaker 1 They have all their,

Speaker 1 this is an advertisement right now, but all their, they use their masters, so it's like the highest quality. That's what PFT is saying.
It's like higher quality sounding music for audiophiles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And you want to fuck music. So this is just a bunch of Game of Thrones predictions now.

Speaker 1 All the smoke clears at King's Landing. Bran comes down from Winterfell, stands up out of his wheelchair, and raises his arms and shows he's the true Night King.

Speaker 1 All of the dead rise and kill everybody, and the screen cuts to black. Is this someone else Rotterdam? Yeah, no.
Oh. That'd be great.
That was me.

Speaker 1 I've been saying that I think Brand's playing possum in that wheelchair. And he's been able to walk this whole time.
Okay, so Hank, I'm going to give you my real. So let's start first.

Speaker 1 Do you hate this season? Everyone hates this season. Yeah.
I don't really care because I think because I watched it so quickly that I didn't have to wait. So I'm like, whatever.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 I was such a big Jon Snow guy. Like the episode when they do the reveal that he's...

Speaker 1 Rhaegar's son and that like shows him as a baby and then shows him getting king of the north like that was like the best bet maybe the best scene of all time like when they it shows his eyes and then it's like he does the king of the north speech well you didn't see when when tony suffered no yeah i didn't see that so i was all in on john jon snow so the fact that they basically just like made him

Speaker 1 probably gonna die anyways because they got in a bad car accident we did say spoilers before all yeah i mean he was on he was probably gonna die but maybe the ambulance would have gotten there in time and saved him

Speaker 1 back on the h but the worst part is like Chris knew that Tony was doing it to him as he died so it was like betrayal at the last moment yeah that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I was a huge Jon Snow guy, so the fact that he's been like a side character this whole season has kind of been disappointing.

Speaker 1 What if it ends just by cutting to black as Ari is about to like slit Brand's throat and then Journey starts playing? I don't understand the brand thing.

Speaker 1 The brand thing makes no sense to me. The only reason that it makes sense to me is because all the betting sites have him as the favorite to do it.
Okay, so here's how it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you,

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'll give you one theory that I read. No, this is my prediction, okay?

Speaker 1 I've said that Jon Snow is going going to kill Danny. Do we agree with that? Yeah.
I think Jon Snow is going to kill Danny and kill the dragon. Team Targ.
Because he's going to be like, we can't have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because

Speaker 1 he's a Targ. But, dude, yeah, because the dragon trusts him.
He's like, we can't have dragons in this world. Look what they did to King's Landing.
I mean, he did, I mean, he just got rid of ghosts.

Speaker 1 He was so scared of what happened to King's Landing. So he kills Danny.
He kills the dragon.

Speaker 1 But he brings in the dragon, and the dragon trusts him. And everyone's like, yo, dude, what's up with that? Are you a Targ? And then everyone's like, oh, shit, he's the rightful king.

Speaker 1 And he does his Jon Snow. I don't want to, I don't want to be king.
All that bullshit. And then they're like, well, we need a king.
And they elect Brand.

Speaker 1 How does Brand get there? Because he knows all of this. How does he get there? He's literally a walking.
Well, not walking, sorry. He is a rolling history book.

Speaker 1 But the way Jon Snow is like, I don't want it. I don't want to be king.
When they say, like, Brandon Stark doesn't even identify as a Stark. Right.
Exactly. He's the perfect one for the realm.

Speaker 1 He's no family. He's above everyone.
Who's Jon Snow's like ride or die? Who's the person that he trusts the most? Ghost. Sam.

Speaker 1 Sam? Sam. Who's Sam? Which one's Sam? He's the nerdy fat dude.

Speaker 1 Finally fucked. He is a nerdy fat dude.

Speaker 1 So you think Jon Snow would just give the throne to that fat guy at the end? Maybe. Maybe.
But I think that's. But it's the brand just because all the betting sites is like brand new.

Speaker 1 I think Arya's going to die, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's my prediction.
Yeah, she seems like she's a likable enough character. She's got a little bit of that

Speaker 1 bunk in her where she can get herself herself into some trouble. And that's going to be the big moment in the like.
Well, she's on that white horse. Yeah, she's going to die.

Speaker 1 I heard that the white horse was Bran. Ooh.
Because Bran can turn into different

Speaker 1 kind of fucked up this whole season that probably is nothing. It's just a white horse.
That'd be pretty sweet if you were in a wheelchair and you could just turn into one of the fastest animals. True.

Speaker 1 The best theory I read that. I don't think the writers could pull this off.

Speaker 1 Wow. You can't pull any of this off.
They already wrote it.

Speaker 1 Bran warged into the dragon and was was burning down King's Landing. Danny had no control, and Bran is secretly trying to get rid of Danny.

Speaker 1 That's why he was the one that came forward with the truth about Jon's parentage. He was the one that put that seed into the world.

Speaker 1 That's Hank's benzone and why his queen isn't actually bad. Nice.
It wasn't her fault.

Speaker 1 The dragon became self-aware. No, Bran warged into the dragon and fucking burned down King's Landing.
I'm telling you, this is exactly what's going to happen. Jon Snow's going to kill Danny.

Speaker 1 Arya's going to die. I don't know how.
He's going to kill the dragon. He's going to be like, I don't want to be king.
I'm going to do Jon Snow. And then Bran is going to be the king.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That's my prediction. What if, at the very end of it, just pilgrims land, just from England, and then they get off, and then everybody gets all these diseases.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like, wait, hold on. This is our show now.
Yeah. And then it's just a show about the Revolutionary War.
Yeah, just it gradually transformed.

Speaker 1 Eventually, Paul Giamatti comes out as John Adams. Yeah, I like that a lot.
I like that a lot. Okay, that's good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Isn't there enough Wisteros to go around?

Speaker 1 For everyone? No. There's never enough.
Everyone wants to die. Why can't they just

Speaker 1 have a piece of that shit? Why can't they just lay down their arms? Well, this is the war to end all wars. They killed the dragon.
I've seen that before. That would be tough.
Or Davos.

Speaker 1 Dragon's dying, bro. What if Wolf kills

Speaker 1 John? No. Okay.
What if Wolf bites the dragon in... Do dragons.
I think we've covered this. Do they have dicks? No.
Cloaca. What if Wolf bites the dragon in its part that kills it?

Speaker 1 Can Wolf become

Speaker 1 where we are. Dragon's not dying.

Speaker 1 Dragon's dying. No.
Danny's dying. Dragon's dying.
I don't know how the dragon's dying. I think Jon Snow will.
But Dragon's dying. Danny's dying.
See ya. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 away

Speaker 1 the shields,

Speaker 1 scouting around the room.

Speaker 1 I don't know what

Speaker 1 to say, I'm fading anyway.

Speaker 1 They made it for me.

Speaker 1 Happy technology.

Speaker 1 Jason, I'll take the body. Shiny

Speaker 1 room,

Speaker 1 feed it on my face. I'm coming for your love update.
Shiny rage.

Speaker 1 We've got a smile. So in love with the way we are.

Speaker 1 I'm coming for your love update.

Speaker 1 They're all Christmas sleep.

Speaker 1 Do you have family?

Speaker 1 Say it, it's about me, somewhere there's real.

Speaker 1 Or is it a dream?

Speaker 1 Can't even leave it.

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Can't even hear the screen. Let's let it be safe for selfie.
Say after me.

Speaker 1 We're kind of smart. Cause so we love not the way we are.

Speaker 1 on me,

Speaker 1 take on me, I am.