Coach Jeff Fisher, NFL Draft, Game Of Thrones Dumb Theories

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have the NFL Draft. All of our reactions, all of our overreactions, we also have, in memoriam, the Washington Capitals, Coach Jeff Fisher talking about draft war rooms and his newfound Twitter glory.
And then we're going to finish the show with some FAQs and some Game of Thrones previews slash predictions slash I don't know what the fuck we're going to do because we're the dumbest Game of Thrones podcast in the world. Now speak for yourself.
That's true. PFT is on his game when it comes to Game of Thrones.
We're going to do all that, and it's going to be an awesome show because it is a Friday show, and those are always great. We're going to get right back to the show.
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PFT, let's overreact to the NFL Draft. I don't do overreactions, but Dan Snyder is the best talent evaluator in the history of the National Football League.
Okay, so we don't do overreactions, but we are going to overreact to a few things. Let's start from the top.
We'll get to Dwayne Haskins and Dan Snyder somehow becoming the greatest drafter of all time. But we have to start with the top, and the top is always with Roger Goodell coming out with Marcus Mariota, probably the worst shield he's ever come out with because he usually comes out with the troops, hoping that that will bring down the booze.
Our kids. Yeah, our kids.
Someone maybe who doesn't have a leg or something. This year he comes out with Marcus Mariota, and he basically says the Titans fans are like, well, we kind of don't like him either.
Usually when you bring a shield out, the shield is supposed to protect you from injuries, and Marcus Mariota is like, he's the last thing from a shield possible. So he's not protecting the shield.
He's not protecting Roger Goodell. I'm actually just happy he showed up, because usually for the big game, he's questionable, if not doubtful.
I was going to say I'm shocked that he didn't sprain his MCL walking up to the podium. It's actually his elbow is what he always sees.
Well, both. He gets that funny bone.
Ow. Yeah, he's got weak knees, too.
Goodell, credit to him, showed he's a real locker room guy, gave him a nice little pat on the butt. And then Mariota gave up.
I'm pretty sure that Goodell didn't even tell Mariota that he was going to be giving a speech. He was just like, hey, get up there and say something so I don't have to talk the whole time.
Mariota goes, let's do this. Basically, he goes, aloha, aloha.
Let's go, guys. And then, obviously, when Roger Goodell comes out, the heavens open up.

Torrential rain pour comes down.

Opposite of heavens opening up.

Yeah.

Well, no, the heavens open up, and then rain comes down.

So angels came down to facialize him.

No, the skies, yeah, and then it's just everything comes down.

Yeah.

You don't know.

Heaven and hell are just whatever you make of it.

That's fucking deep.

That's too deep for draft night.

All right.

First pick.

Dave Gettleman, then, is sitting on a cloud. Yeah, we'll get to Dave Gettleman.

First pick, Kyler Murray.

Everyone expected it.

Everyone knew it was going. Kyler Murray in his pre-draft interview with Susie Colber, who I think Susie Colber might be taller than him, says that his favorite movie of all time is Great Gatsby.
That is the biggest red flag we've ever seen. If you're going to pick a DiCaprio movie, it should be Catch Me If You Can, if you're a real quick guy.
How about The Beach? Oh, The Beach is a solid one, too. Really good.
You want to talk about it? We'll spoil the ending later. Yeah, yeah.
But anyway, Great Gatsby, either it's a try-hard move to be like, I love movies that were books, or you're just lying because there's no one on earth who thinks Great Gatsby is their favorite movie. Right.
Also, I'm pretty sure Kyler Murray is the kind of guy that likes The Great Gatsby because he thinks Gatsby is cool as hell. Right.
He throws these sick parties and is just a boss. He does the Leo dance 15 years after it was cool.
Yeah. There was nothing cool about that book or that movie.
Yes. I'm on the record.
Facts. Fuck Scott Fitzgerald.
He also, Kyler Murray's pick also proved that any time, any coach, anywhere, gets in front of a media row and says, this is my guy, it's not his guy. It's the old Rex is my quarterback by Lovie Smith.
Cliff Kingsbury, February 12th, 2019, said, Josh is our guy. No.
Yeah. Not true.
My guy is the kiss of death of death yes that would be a pretty awesome kiss if it's coming from cliff yeah that's all i'm gonna say about that well if he's wearing his sunglasses so then then we've got yeah that's right on record not as cliff kingsbury not as hot as earlier reported yes um then you've got josh rosen dealing with the fallout yep so we all know that he has a problem with authority Now he's going to have a big problem with his authority because he doesn't really have a position anymore. Nope.
It's not going to be an open competition. They're trying to trade him, trying to ship him to, like, the Dolphins or somewhere like that.
I think that they should probably wait. We were talking about this earlier.
Yes. I think here's the thing.
On draft night, your draft picks are worth so much more in your own brain than they really are. So no team is going to give up, I don't think, a second round pick for Josh Rosen.
Because in their minds, it's like, whoa, it's a surprise package. It's a mystery box.
It could be something awesome. It's probably not.
It's probably going to suck. Right.
But in your head, it's like, this could be my franchise guy right here. So teams are more reluctant to trade away high picks on draft night than they might be, let's say, first couple weeks of training camp or after the injury bug starts fighting some teams.
Yeah, because right now, the next two months, this is actually the lowest that the Cardinals would get for Josh Rosen because they just drafted Kyler Murray. And everyone's going to look at him and be like, you guys can't keep both these guys.
So they got to wait till someone gets injured. A Teddy Bridgewater injury.
We don't root for injuries. We don't root for injuries, but that would be when to trade him.
It's still going to be very awkward to have Josh Rosen and Kyler Murray in the same QB room if he somehow stays on the team for like the next three months. Right.
And it also matters how gruesome the injury is going to be because the value goes up. The more players on your team throw up from watching the injury, the more you're willing to part with to get a Josh Rosen.
Yes. All right.
Number two pick. Also not a surprise.
Joey Bosa, San Francisco 49ers. The Bosa's are now the new Gronks.
It is a football family. They're all fucking meatheads.
Even the mom's a meathead. And they...
Oh, she would beat my ass. Oh, kick my ass.
Everyone in the Bosa family played football. And we also had the nugget that Trey Wingo threw out there that the Bosas invented the game, kill the man with the ball, which they did not.
And they also, there's a 0.0% chance the Bosas called it kill the man with the ball. That is not what the Bosa family would call that game at all.
We know what the Bosa family called that game. I heard that come out, and I said the name that I thought it would be.
That we all know in our head. And we're like, there's no chance that the Bosa's called it Kill the Guy with the Ball.
That's too many syllables, number one. Every kid who's ever played Kill the Man with the Ball knows that the Bosa's did not call it Kill the Man with the Ball.
Right. Also, I thought that it was a nice touch that Bosa gave Goodell an open mouth kiss just to show how his views have progressed recently.
Yes, he did. So Joey Bosa, not a big shock.
Same with Quinton Williams, who is going with gray on gray on gray. Also had braces, which I always love, like just bettering yourself, about to be a millionaire.
Fucking love it. That's actually a great pick for the Jets.
They were trying to trade, but it's a good pick nonetheless. No, I like it too.
It's like I would much rather have a dude with braces than a dude with Invisalign. Yep.
And then Cleland Farrell was the first shock of the night, who a lot of people – this is my favorite thing about mock drafts, is we basically just base it off of this consensus that gets formed where everyone kind of cheats off of each other's mock drafts, And they're like, well, that guy wasn't supposed to be picked at four. It's got to be a bust.
Now, I do probably think it was a reach. You probably could have got him later.
But whatever. John Gruden's his own man.
And remember, they don't have any scouts in the room, so they probably didn't even have a mock draft in front of them. That's true.
It's like if you go to a store with a bunch of money in your pocket, then you don't care. You're going to buy something at the impulse rack, like at the checkout.
Right. You'll throw money at it.
So they come into this draft with what, three first rounders? Three first picks. So they're just like, fuck it, I'm spinning.
I'm spinning like it's going to go away. Right.
And it's just going to happen and whatever. We don't care about where a guy should go and whatnot.
We also got the cool fact, his late father, rest in peace, Cleavster. One of the greatest names I've ever heard.
That is fucking cool. Cleavster and Cleland? Cleavster.
That's fucking awesome. That is really good.
Yeah, so Cleavster's looking down from the heavens at his son being drafted. Okay, at number five, Devin White, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we thought there's only one person who can give us the breakdown here.
It is our good friend Stephen Shea. Senior draft analyst.
Senior draft analyst Stephen Shea. He works on the second floor.
He's also the producer of the Yak. He's also just a good friend because he's a football guy through and through.
He's going to say right now, PFT, that he didn't cry, but I saw tears in his eyes. And Stephen Shea is a grown-ass man.
He's a father. And he had tears in his eyes when the Bucs drafted Devin White with the fifth pick.
Linebacker. Sexy.
Stephen Shea, the Bucs minute starts now. My Tampa Bay Buccaneers were on the clock.
Number five, blue chip edge rusher Josh Allen. Unexpectedly available.
I would have thought he would have been the pick. Head bruce he fell to seven that's where josh allen's go that's true yeah uh i would have thought that he would have been the pick uh since the head league the head coach bruce arian said if you draft for need you get fired uh the bucks just recently lost a middle linebacker from lsu kwan alexander who actually plays exactly like Devin White, so that's his pro comp.
They took White, who I do like. I would have liked a little bit more value.
It's very uncommon to draft middle linebackers high in the top five especially. But you know what? If he's a good player, it's going to be a great pick.
My, my concern is that he wears No. 40, and that No.
40 jersey in Tampa Bay belongs to the one, the only, Mike Allstott. Yeah.
So he said that he wants to wear No. 40 if he goes to the Bucs, right? Correct.
What do you think about just doing an Oklahoma drill? Just mano-a-mano. Winner gets the 40.
Who you got in that one? I mean, low man wins, and it's hard to get lower than the A train. That true that's true that thing runs underground steven i gotta ask you a question so you did cry i did not cry no there was tears in your eyes i was in a state of shock yes for a little while yeah so but it sounds like you've talked yourself back into this right i mean any guy that puts on the red and pewter i'm gonna root for red and pewter who doesn and pewter.
Who doesn't know the red and pewter? We all know that. We all know that.
Okay, last question, Stephen Che. You're about to go home.
You've been here for however many hours, 12 hours today. You're going to go home.
You're going to go into your house. You're going to look at little Jameis Che, your son.
He did name his son after Jameis Winston. A little problematic, but whatever.
After Derek Brooks. Yeah, okay.
But anyway, are you going to whisper anything like, hey, we got a stud? we got a stud or you can be like daddy's not so happy it's going to be a tough year that's a good question yeah because I know you will no I mean it's going to be a good year we're everybody's everybody's undefeated right now yeah okay as I stated early in the rundown I deal in the currency of hope and it's payday okay okay That's a Bucs minute. That was the Bucs minute with Stephen Shea from tears.
We'll be doing that once every draft. Every draft from tears to somewhere in the middle of I feel okay.
Not a full-on cry. His draft grade is I was crying, but it wasn't out of despair.
It was just out of uncertainty. If there's one day you can cry, it is draft day.

There's a lot of tears on draft day.

So it's okay.

Stephen Shea, thank you so much for the Bucs Minute.

I trust Station Light, so we're going to do it.

That's the worst confidence ever.

Okay, that was the Bucs Minute.

That's the longest we're going to spend on the Bucs this year, I guarantee you.

It's that and singing the Jameis Winston song.

I was going to say, let's hold off on that because Jameis Winston could do something very embarrassing and we'll probably spend at least two minutes on it. Jameis? No.
The sixth pick. The New York Giants selected a quarterback out of Duke.
Daniel Jones. The shock of the draft.
I became addicted. I didn't even know I was addicted to this until it happened.
I was addicted to

giant fan reactions.

We had

Archie Manning basically

pulling the trigger. He has the David

Cutcliffe connection.

They drafted a guy

like, here's where the Giants

need credit. They drafted just like

we said on Wednesday, a more boring

Eli. Yeah, it's more of the same.
Eli Manning with less pizzazz which is a gentleman wet dream yeah he's nutting himself when he saw that here here's a quote from the duke coach uh david cutcliffe you ready for this daniel jones embraces something we believe here real swag is no swag so no swag daniel jones that's a great nickname looking at face, he looks like a Bollywood version of a Manning. Yeah.
You know what I mean? They're like a junkyard D-list straight-to-lifetime Manning family movie. Daniel Jones is playing the part of Manning.
Probably Cooper. Like if Eli Manning got hit in the face with a frying pan.
Yeah. That's what he looks like.
And guess what? He's now Eli. Now Eli gets

another like five years because Daniel Jones is

going to be terrible. It was actually

when you think about it, a genius move by

Dave Gettleman because what he did here

was he drafted

a guy who everyone, all the Giants

fans would be like, look, we drafted a guy

like, you know, top 10. We have our

quarterback of the future. He's just going to suck

and we can keep Eli going

and people can stop saying, when are you going to get

your quarterback of the future? Yeah, it's a good move. Anytime you're a GM and you can take a quarterback that might not be that great in the top 10, you have to do it just because it extends your job for a while.
Yeah, no, it's great. The Duke quarterback! I actually have a theory that he is a member of the Manning family.
I think there was some hanky-panky that went on, and Archie's got another kid running around by the name of Daniel Jones. You tell me that's not an alias? Yeah.
Daniel Jones is the most fucking alias name I've ever heard. Absolutely.
He is a Manning. He's a Manning through and through.
He's been a camp counselor at the Manning Passing Academy two years. Okay? He's got deep connections.
He goes to Duke with the Cutcliffe guy. I'm doing some more homework on this.
Sounds like Game of Thrones. Yeah, it does.
He is. He's the rightful heir.
He's the rightful heir to the Manning family. And he's also like, he's the child probably of a little bit of incest, so he's probably got a little something wrong with him, you know? Yeah.
He's the third or the fourth Manning, if you count Cooper, which we don't really count. He also, I would like to see, I love this theory, I'd like to see him breathe out of his mouth a little bit to figure out if he's truly a Manning.
You know that really dumb look. What they're going to need to do is put a medical-grade pinwheel in front of his mouth and just register how fast the air is coming out, and then they'll know.
You are a Manning. Eli, you're safe.
You are safe. It also was great because he gets drafted, and the first thing that ESPN put up on the screen was how his siblings are also athletic.
That really tells you how much tape this guy has and how good he is. When ESPN's scrambling, they're like, well, oh, wait, his sister plays field hockey, and his other sister plays soccer.
Look out. I actually do believe that.
They got some money. Look out, Bces when this is a real athletic family i i actually would believe that he would call the game kill the guy with the ball yes oh absolutely he is a guy that no uh tag the guy with the ball yeah not yeah tag yes yeah or tag the tag a person with the tag because he was probably playing with sisters yeah and also you don't want to assume gender well i yeah right i guess so right

the jones family does not okay right uh so eli you're safe this is there's no way that he wouldn't have been there at 17 you know what's gonna be so funny is when he turns out to be a good quarterback no no he's not he's not but he might beat the patriots twice in the super bowl he's he's that's true he could just be terrible and then luck into a super bowl you You never know. And it would be a hilarious, you know, Manning.

That wasn't necessary.

Oh.

Sorry.

Does that offend all your rings?

No.

Okay.

I feel like Patriots are good enough where I can say whatever the hell I want about them

and you should just be like, I don't care.

I'm a champion.

All right.

Which is what you do anyways.

Next up, Josh Allen.

Seventh pick, Jaguars.

Jaguars D is going to be so fucking good.

I can't believe he fell to this. I thought we heard from Stephen Shea.
He thought he was going to be a buck. I wouldn't have been shocked if he was taken by the Giants, who need a lot of help on the defensive line.
But I love when teams be like, yo, we have an awesome defense. Let's just make it even better.
Yeah, he's really fucking good. We watched him play.
As soon as we found out that there was another Josh Allen out there, we started watching his tape, and he's really, really good. Kentucky was a great team this year, and he was by far the best player on that team.
And credit to us, we got another Josh Allen draft. It's seventh overall.
Yeah. So good job, boys.
That'll be forever known as the Josh Allen zone. Way to go.
Way to go. We are Josh Allen factory.
It's Josh Allen now, right? Josh isosh is next fresno state something like that i don't think josh no we're no we're gonna speak into existence all right josh is gonna be next tj hawkinson for uh from iowa to the lions was the eighth pick the most iowa guy looking guy ever he was wearing a gold tie he was his his face his hair like he He never has seen product i love him like that's the type of guy if you lined everyone up you'd be like wait that guy only cares about football and probably doesn't even have anything else outside of no he did look like you dipped a uh a corb was it a cob of corn yep clean that up for me yes corn cob he looks like a he looks like a corn cob dipped in a vanilla sundae yeah and with like a little bit of caramel on top maybe just a touch just a touch yeah so is iowa i was now tight end you it is so him and no fan got picked following up on kiddle success yep which proves that you that's the one position that you don't have to actually do that much in college to get drafted in the NFL.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the next couple years,

just some basketball player who's never played on a football field.

Zion would have been a first-rounder at tight end.

You just catch 30 balls and everyone's like, whoa.

Yeah.

That guy.

He's awesome.

Ed Oliver to the Bills.

Shout out to the Bills.

Love it.

The other defense getting better with their defense.

Ed Oliver. So did you see Sean McDermott's quote? The one about the Cheerios.
Well, did you see what preceded that? I did. Okay, so Sean McDermott said about Ed Oliver, you could feel him, presence, energy.
The closer you got, the more you felt the quickness, power, the juice. Sean McDermott definitely smelled Ed Oliver, like sniffed him up and down.
Yeah, he's describing him like you would describe a uranium core, like a power plant. The closer you got to him, the more your skin started to tingle.
It's a very football guy, Coach. And then they asked him what he means by that feeling, and he compared it to driving down the interstate in downtown Buffalo and smelling the Cheerios factory.
Yeah, that's right. Awesome.
That's right. Be afraid, Hank.
Awesome. Be very afraid.
His smell, his power, his presence. It's like Sean McDermott definitely just got really – when they said goodbye to Ed Oliver on his team visit, he definitely gave him a very, very tight hug that lasted five to eight seconds too long.
And he already rocks the Zubaz. Yep.
Already knows about diving through tables.

Most people in Buffalo, you can smell before you see,

but that's just like the beer coming out of him.

Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.

That's beer and wings.

Beer and vinegar, yeah.

Wings coming out of their pores.

Devin Bush, 10, which I'd like to think it was partly a fuck you to Le'Veon Bell

because Devin Bush did do that thing in Michigan State Stadium, Spartan Stadium.

He ripped up their center logo and the 50-yard logo. So good pick for the Steelers.
They obviously traded up. First time they had a top 10 pick since 2000, which is insane.
Coming off the heels of extending Ben Roethlisberger. Thank God we have Ben Roethlisberger for at least three more years.
And Manning, too. And Manning.
And we have, so we're going to hop ahead here to what we talked about at the beginning, Dan Snyder. Yes.
Draft genius. Now, here's what happened at 15.
PFT and I were watching the draft, and we actually had the real conversation. Will Dan Snyder not draft Dwayne Haskins here because he didn't have to trade up for Dwayne Haskins? Yeah, he loves the splash.
He likes a quarterback that he moves up to get. The chase.
That's what he does.

He's like, oh, we can have this for free?

He doesn't want it. Fuck that.
He's a guy that would second guess himself and be like, well, no other team

wanted him, so he's not that sexy of a pick,

I guess. I'm not going to take it.
I'm thinking

somebody got to old Dan tonight.

Somebody kept him locked

in a meat cellar somewhere.

Good draft. He's probably hanging out with Tom Cruise.

Yeah. Taking some recreational ambient.
And they got Montez Sweat too. And also, I mean, if you were bad, drafting a franchise quarterback is the only way to at least be fun.
Now there's hope. Right.
Now there's hope. One of two things happened.
Either Snyder was locked away somewhere or he spent the last several years giving all his money to develop that pill from Limitless. And now he's like a super guru, big brain Dan Snyder.
Just going crazy. I think that Dwayne Haskins is the perfect fit.
He is a Snyder guy because he was charging $50 per head to get into his own draft day party. That's such a Snyder move.
He was probably charging like $35 to get in if you want to sit behind my fat uncle on the recliner. What was parking? What was parking? Yeah, parking outside was a lot more.
Yeah, but obstructed view seats at Dwayne Haskins' draft party. They were discounted.
$25 for those. Let's be honest.
Dan Snyder just drafted him because Dwayne Haskins played high school football at the same high school that Dan Snyder's son went to. A million percent.
A million percent. That's why.
100 percent. It was a combination of that and also the pick just falling into his lap.
Right. And it's like, don't fuck this up.
Yeah. Well, he was like, hey, guys, I watched tape from this kid since high school.
I know. You know, he thought about taking Drew Locke.
Yeah. Right? Drew Locke was in the back of his mind.
Yes. But I think he may.
I'm excited about the Dwayne Haskins pick. Yeah.
I mean, it's going to be an exciting pick. I think he's going to be good.
Washington sports is back. First Big Ten quarterback taken since Kerry Collins in the first round, 1995.
He had a very long career. Big Ten does have, I think, the most Super Bowls, though, so that counts, right? I'll absolutely take that.
I mean, it's pretty much just Tom Brady's one of all. Well, no.
Russell Wilson, Drew Brees. Come on.
Shout out. Conference of champions.
Shout out. All right.
Other notable picks that we've got to throw out there. Dexter Lawrence went to the Giants, so they actually did take a guy who will help their team, unlike Daniel Jones.
They took a running back to compete with Saquon. Yeah, they took a running back to compete with Saquon.
No, Dexter Lawrence, he got a couple carries. Yeah, he's a guy who did steroids, but we said we believed him.
Because he was like, I don't know how it happened. We're like, I don't know, dude.
I kind of believe you. Yeah.
Yeah, Dabo Swinney was like, oh, man, we're just all really disappointed. We can't believe that this happened.
He's a good kid. And we're like, yeah, I believe you, Dabo.
That's got to be it. Great recruiting job on my brain.
It's got to be it right there. We had the Raiders take their other two picks.
I'm trying to think of what else. Oh, I had one other note here.
The Packers took two defensive players, so they're very scared of Mitch Trubisky. That's it.
That's the only way you can think of it, right? Yeah. I mean, what else? They need help everywhere, right? I mean, Savage is really good.
Yeah, but he better be good because Mitch Trubisky is going to carve him up. Going to tear that ass up.
Going to tear that ass up. Let's see who else.
Yeah, Sweat. We talked about Sweat.
Hollywood Brown. was he the only wide receiver taken uh no the patriots took one with a 32nd pick nikhail hair harry from arizona state okay he's actually a stud a herm guy yeah the i love when i love when uh guys get taken this is like a very degenerate gambler thing but i love when guys get taken from the pac-12 because you're like oh i've watched tape on him but it's really you just gambled on a game at like 11 p.m at night on a saturday yep and you're like oh he's a stud uh oh yeah that's a big dude right yeah yeah he is he is fucking awesome you're right i stayed up late a couple times yeah gambling on yeah you're absolutely right you know that guy's good pick good pick by belichick um the other thing i had was Jacobs went to the Raiders in their second pick.
He's running back out of Alabama. Only thing you need to know about this guy comes from the mouth of Louis Riddick, who said this guy loves to finish on guys.
Ooh, nice. That should help.
He will finish all. I mean, Marshawn Lynch was a guy who loved to finish on guys.
Absolutely. Loved to finish through guys.
Big finisher. In guys, through them everywhere.
And in Oakland, you get to finish on guys at third base. True.
Perfect fit. One more year.
Great scheme fit. One more year.
Alright. That was the NFL draft.
We'll talk about it more on Monday's show because we have the other fucking... Fuck the NFL for making this so long now.
You know what? I kind of liked it when it was Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, but no, the best was when it was Saturday, one, two, three, I think even four, maybe some years.
And then Sunday was five, six, seven. So Saturday was basically 10 a.m.
to like, you know, 8 p.m. 10 a.m.
is too early for my brain to look at football. You get to tailgate.
You get to tailgate the draft. Tailgate the draft.
Yeah, in your living room. Nashville did a great job, I'm told.
Great job, Nashville.m. 10 a.m.
is too early for my brain to look at football tailgate you get so tailgate till yeah in your living room nashville did a great job i'm told great job nashville uh except for uh those poor ladies who wanted to have a bachelorette party and they didn't know the draft was happening one of the best clips ever when they're like yeah we had our bachelorette party planned forever not like the draft isn't planned for like five years in advance and uh they showed up and they're like, we tried to go to Broadway.

And there was just guys in Lucha Libre masks and yelling and people wearing offensive linemen jerseys and screaming and chugging beers.

There was a man in a Vikings jersey with his face painted and Goldilocks braids down to his knees yelling at me about a center from NC State.

They just wanted for the gram and they got all these fucking guys just getting shit faced on Broadway. You know what the NFL should do is they should have each round of the draft in different cities, and every year it should just be Nashville, Austin, New Orleans, and Charleston, South Carolina, and just fuck up everybody's bachelorette parties.
Wait, one more. And the bleachers at Wrigley.
And the bleachers at Wrigley, yeah. That's it.
And that's all the spots. Just going on a mission, fucking up every bachelor and bachelorette party.
Every single one. By the way, if you have a bachelor party at the draft, that's just cool as hell.
Yeah. That's fucking cool.
That means you're doing it right. Yeah.
Just fucking getting crazy. I got tickets to the draft.
We went to all seven rounds. All right.
We got to talk about something. The Capitals.
Turns out it wasn't their year. It's still our year.
We're still the champions. Still the Stanley Cup champions for another month.
Will you be doing Soggy Sorrows? It's funny you ask that, because I did bring something in. You didn't know I was going to do this.
Well, I was hoping you were going to. You were going to bully me into it.
No, I was just going to ask. I just asked.
No, you're wearing a hat. PFT's wearing a hat, and he just dropped, I would say, about a quarter of a cup of water on his head.
I'll do another one. I'll do another one.
That was the sad. You know what? No, that's actually the perfect Soggy Saros.
That was so sad. Hey, that was so sad.
Don't even need to do more. That was so sad what he just did.
That Soggy Saros right there. I'm giving you credit.
Full credit. You know what? That was so sad.
When I brought this in here, I made a mental note to take my hat off so I wouldn't get this sweet-ass part of my take hat on sale now. You just spit on top of your head.
The Caps are eliminated. They were up 2-0, 3-1 in the game seven.
PFT might have jinxed them. No, I didn't jinx them.
A lot of plans being made. I did have it in my that the stanley cup was ours and that we'd never give it back and that we were just gonna win like there was a very small part of me that truly believed that we would have the stanley cup forever we would just never lose another playoff series and so that was kind of tough it was more about me just accepting the fact i was in denial after we lost you were i was like no this no this, this is not how this ends.
Right. I'm a champion.
Game seven, double overtime. It's tough.
It's a very like, because it really is just so, boom, it's over. Yeah.
And listen, game sevens in general are tough to watch as a fan. And overtimes, I was just ready for it to be over.
I had pretty much resigned to the fact that we were going to lose after the first overtime period. But in the back of your head, you're like, we're going to win, I'm going to go to the Eastern Conference Finals.
I was like, we're going to steal one. I can't wait to go to Vegas.
Oh, wait, no, I jinxed them. I can't wait to go to Toronto.
Oh, wait, no, I jinxed them. Here's the deal.
Hamilton the pig was a problem for us. I did not account for Hamilton the rally pig.
Yeah. If I had known going into the series about the rally pig, probably would have been a different story.
And you guys threw out all the stops. Oshie comes out, gets the crowd whooped up.
There was that weird, like, Game 7s for teams. I think it happens when, like, if this was two years ago.
Actually, I don't know. Game 7s are weird when the crowd starts to feel that dread.
And I'm not calling DC a bad sports town. No, you can't.
But it did feel, didn't but it did feel didn't you feel like actually no fuck you they kept the metro open until like uh one o'clock last night didn't you feel like the energy in the in the barn like in that first and second overtime it felt just eerie yeah and you can feel it and it's like i don't know about this yeah i i did feel that and the worst the worst part about that loss is just accepting the fact that I'm not going to have anything really to root for for the next month and a half. Yeah.
I liked that a lot last year, having something to live for, being able to feel the feeling of, okay, hope, we can do this. Happiness.
That's the word I was looking for. Yeah, happiness.
Being able to feel happy about sports. And it's very strange for me to feel happy about one of my sports teams.
but I'm going to miss that. And I realized that the only thing that I can do to make up for that giant

hole is going to be gamble more heavily on the sports that I am watching. So that's going to be a problem for me.
I can tell you already, I'm going to start putting way more money than I normally do on these games. All right, so last question for the Caps.
You know we love storylines. Will Ovi ever win the big one? No, I don't know.
I don't think so. I don't think he has the clutch gene.
Hey, verbal meme, Ovi lifting up the Stanley Cup, but the Stanley Cup is actually just golf clubs. Yeah.
Listen, I've got to trade him. Got to trade him.
Not a winner. Got to trade him.
Yeah, so I will say this. I'm sick of seeing that little new power play that they were doing last night.
It's not really a new power play, but they did it every single time. I think they call it the slingshot.
It bleeds about 20 seconds off the clock every single time they do it. You've got to wind it up.
Got to wind it up. I was not happy with that, but you know what? We're still champions for another few weeks.
Okay. And, Hank, do you want to talk about the Bruins? They won a Game 7 since we last taped.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of know exactly what PFT is talking about. I'm excited that I do have that opportunity with the Bruins and the Celtics.
You know, the one thing that PFT, you guys can probably relate to this, but their schedule, there's just so much going on that it's like a full-time job just watching these Celtics and Bruins games. But that's the price you've got to pay.
You're going to have to take a vacation after this. Another one.
This is a lot of work. I will say, though, that everything happens for a reason.
And the fact that I have not watched Game of Thrones until this season took a little bit of the sting out of that loss because the Hurricanes tweeted out, you have to bend the knee to us. And so I did not understand it because I do not watch the show.
So I feel like I was totally vindicated for not watching Game of Thrones until now. Yeah, that went right.
Like, you don't have to feel the pain. Everybody was like, that was such a sick burn by the hurricanes.
Oh. And I was like, I'm really glad I'm ignorant.
Yeah, we're getting to the saturation point. I'm part of the problem.
Big part of the problem. You're not.
Game of Thrones. You're a symptom of the problem.
The thing is, though, there's four episodes left. I know, yeah, you're right.
It can happen. And honestly, this week's episode

looks like it's going to kick ass. Oh, we're going to get to it.

We're going to get to it. I wrote down some notes.
I have some

major thoughts and we have some theories

too. Alright, we also

need to talk quickly before we do our Fyre Fest of the Week.

NBA playoffs, we're going to

have the most

boring Game 7 of all time

with the Spurs and the Nuggets.

That series is still going on. I've watched like four of those games and I don't remember anything.
No, nothing. And they've all been bad.
All the games have been bad and it's game seven. It makes no sense.
Since we last taped, Damian Lillard put his nuts on the fucking ground and Russ Westbrook's thunder have officially been canceled. I think it is like you've got to trade someone there because it doesn't work anymore Playoff P Playoff L And Damian Lillard had like the greatest Troll he did the goodbye After he hit like a 40 footer Whatever it was and then Paul George got all Salty and was like that was just a bad Shot it was a bad shot like bro what are you Talking about he made it it was a bad bad shots are good.
And also they call him, like, one of his nicknames is Logo Lillard because he can shoot from that far out. Yeah, I think, I kind of understand what he's saying because in general, you would let a normal person take that shot.
Okay, but here's the thing. Damian Lillard had a good response to it.
He said there was two seconds left. I obviously wasn't driving.
What are you doing giving me that space? Yeah, here's my reaction. If it was a bad shot, I wouldn't have made it.
Right. And I'm happy that Damian Lillard is getting some shine because he is a top-ten NBA player, and it's awesome to see him stand up in the big moment, especially after last year.
And I want the Blazers to get to the Western Conference Finals. Is this going to help bury the hatchet between Kevin Durant and C.J.
McCollum, the fact that they dispatched Russell Westbrook? Yes, absolutely. KD might go back on his fucking podcast.
So we should bring up Kevin Durant's Warriors, because they are Kevin Durant's Warriors. First, I made a drunk note when I was watching the Thunder the other night.
This is after the Pup Punk show. I got back to the hotel room, watched the end of it.
You know how I said I was pissed off about not having Stephen Adams mic'd up all the time? Mm-hmm. I found the perfect analogy.
Watching Stephen Adams without sound is like listening to porn without the images. That's kind of hot, though.
Just listening to it? Every now and then? Yeah. Well, it was kind of cool seeing him yell at him and point his finger, but I i needed this i need the sound to really get me there let me clarify it's not that hot listening on your tv but if you're live listening is kind of hot if you're live like if your roommate is jerking off no your roommate's having sex through the wall damn that's not what's going on over here i do like that it's just without the camera yeah which we're saying there's no camera that you're just yeah you're's just sex.
You're listening to sex. You're just a peeping Tom.
Well, no. You're a voyeur.
No peeping. Listening.
Use your ears, not your eyes. You're walking down the street.
Yeah. You hear something going on the window.
You hear some sex and you're like, huh, let me just sit here and listen. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's all I'm doing. Listening.
That kind of thing. That's it.
Yeah. My favorite is when I can hear the neighbors and Leroy does the head tilt to the side like, hmm? Yeah.
How long do they last? I've never heard of sex sounds in my life because I'm PFT's dog. How long do they last? Not that long.
Okay, good. I don't want to show them.
Makes me feel good about myself. Yeah, yeah.
I would move. I'll put it this way.
Long enough, but not that long. So the Kevin Durant's Warriors, because they are Kevin Durant's Warriors.
Steph Curry is injured again. At what point, I still think they're going to win the title, but at what point do they keep losing? They've lost two to the Clippers now, and they looked bad at certain points and turnovers and all that bullshit.
At what point are we like, hey, maybe they aren't going to win the title? I think they still are. Okay.
All right. Yeah.
All right. Don't look at me.
Good for us, because we have a bet with Hank where there's absolutely nothing on the line. Yeah.
Did you see Draymond Green just completely own Steve Kerr in the press conference? We're going to play my music. That is...
Let's just say this. This is the end of the Warriors.
This is their last run. They either win the title this year and go off as you know three in a row all that shit or they lose and everyone goes their other way and hates each other and we get an awesome book that steve kerr will hopefully write in like five years yeah they're like uh they're roommates in college that loved living with each other but by the start of that fourth year it's a summer after graduation and they say their lease is up for two another two months and they're like well we're all moving to different cities.
You got two guys who are like, come on, let's just do one more year. Right.
Let's just chill in this town. We'll all get serving jobs.
It'll be awesome. Take a victory lap.
Two of them aren't talking. Yeah.
Yeah. It's getting a little awkward in the apartment.
Dishes are piling up. There's a lot of shit.
There's a lot of angst going on. All right.
Fire Fest. Firefest of the week before we get to Coach Fisher.
Hank, why don't you start? So this weekend we were at Rough and Riding in West Virginia. We took a flight home.
Big Cat mercilessly mocked me. I was getting a little scared during turbulence, but that's not my Firefest.
Hank, you should mention it was a private jet. It was a private jet.
I didn't want to say it. You had to say it.
No, well, you said it. Well, you said it.
But, I mean, everyone... So your Fyre Fest is riding on a private jet.
And you have a little turbo winds. No, that's a side note.
My Fyre Fest was that when we landed, my ears didn't pop for five days straight. And so, like, for the whole week, I couldn't hear anything.
Oh, no. Got to the point, but usually it's like a day.
I know, I heard the levels on the last podcast. It's like a day or two.
But by, like, Tuesday and Wednesday, I just assumed that I was never going to hear right again. You can just go underwater.
No, I was trying to do it. I was doing the thing where you like hold your nose and blow out.
I was trying to do it all for like an hour. And I was like, I think I'm just resigned.
Go underwater and never come up. Yours will not be clogged anymore.
Yeah. Yeah.
Your hearing will be great. Right.
So do that next time. All right.
Drown yourself. That's a Chicago slang.
Yeah. As we learned from Derek Rose.
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
I didn't really mean kill yourself, everyone. All right.
PFT, you go. Mine also has to do with airplanes.
So I'm, uh, Tuesday night we play the show. Actually, I'm going to switch it up.
Skeet skirt. Here's the, he, here's the real fireyre Fest of my week.
We were playing down at ECU in Greenville, North Carolina on Tuesday. Yeah, our band was playing.
Pretty cool. And it was a great show.
Thank you to everybody that came out. It was so much fun.
And we were going to close our set by playing All I Do Is Win, like a punk cover of it. I have a feeling this is going to be an all-time brag.
And halfway through the set, a guy Gaz comes on stage and whispers to all of us, hey, you can't play All I Do Is Win because T-Pain's here and he's going to come out and perform that right after your set instead of you. This is brutal.
What a firefest. So we were all ready.
It was going to be our best song of the night. Then we had to stop and now everybody remembers that as a T-Pain concert and not a pop punk concert.

Fuck.

What a fire fest.

You can watch the whole thing on stool scenes.

Oh, wow.

Oh, the entire thing?

Not the entire thing, but... Clips.

Clips of it.

Okay, yeah.

It was like an hour and a half.

All right.

My fire fest of the week is the entire month of April's weather.

And I actually am going to make a contention.

This is going to be a very bold take.

You guys are going to tell me I'm the dumbest person ever.

Just let me explain myself. April has the worst weather of any month.
Fact check. False.
Okay. Here's why.
Because you can't fucking plan for it. It's cold.
It's still the winter. Then it's hot.
Then it's cold again. Then it rains.
You can't. Like, I would rather at least know January's going to suck no matter what.
I can just fucking bundle up. What do you plan for? Just stop.
Let me finish. The other part about April is for us Husky guys out here this Husky guys only can listen to this part April is the first time where the sun comes out and it gets warm and you realize the 15 extra pounds can't be hit under a sweatshirt anymore and it is absolutely terrifying this is actually the best month for jumpsuits.
Yeah, it is. Jump suit April should be the thing.
Eat your way into May. Yeah, because they're so versatile.
Right. They really are.
They're like the Swiss Army knife of clothes. You can put on the sweatpants, put a t-shirt on, and then put the sweatshirt over top.
Boom. Take the sweatshirt off.
You're just rocking a cool tee. Exactly.
And as someone PFT, you were overweight in April for a few days. Yeah no you got on a diet but don't you realize don't you agree when it gets warm out that first day that it's warm out and you're like shit i actually have to wear a t-shirt and nothing else that's a terrifying day that is the worst day of the year for me every single year yeah i thought that medium t-shirts they were making them smaller this year it's like wait hold on and then and then you, hold on.
And then you become the guy who's wearing a sweatshirt when it's 80 degrees out and everyone's like, dude, aren't you hot? That's the worst thing to get, the aren't you hot? Like, yeah, I'm really hot, but you know what? I'm also really fat and I don't want to show that through my t-shirt that doesn't fit. Okay, so April is a very inconvenient month for weather, it's not the worst month i just i'm saying worse in terms of like i just know i like to know what i could like i just if it's january i know it's gonna suck i can plan for it hank shut up i can plan for it i know it's gonna suck i can deal with it i like things that are consistent in my life i don't like change i don't like up and down that's why can't deal with April.
Also, we're guys and I have no problem wearing a t-shirt on a day that I thought was going to be warmer and it ends up being a little bit chilly. I can power through that.
I'm a dude. This is the NFC North.
But if it's raining halfway through the day and then it stops raining, it's tough to walk around in a t-shirt in the rain. Fucks you up.
We're not going to use umbrellas. We're guys.
We don't do that so i did see a woman as it was drizzling a little bit today i saw a woman crossing the street and she didn't have like an umbrella or anything but she had a plastic bag that she put over her head a clear plastic bag that she was just wearing overhead she was crossing the street i was like that's awesome yeah way to go good for her way to go we're to get right back to the show. Mom, can you tell me a story? Sure.
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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, guest it is coach jeff fisher and we brought on coach to talk a little draft i uh i pitched this idea to you and i'm excited about some of these stories what it's like to be in a draft war room what it's like on draft night uh how how all of it works together so let's just start there like big picture just the basics what does a draft war room look like for a coach you know you're i mean if you if the listeners have watched tv they're gonna see those draft cams in all the draft rooms and guys some guys have suits and ties on some guys have their you know their their stuff on and everybody's sitting around a conference table and what's funny now i mean you know this is like a monday night game you know you got all day long to wait for kickoff and the wait's just a killer and so i mean there's um you know there's copenhagen flying around chips and salsa and, you know, sunflower seeds and crossword puzzles because it's just a weight. And so, you know, the thing doesn't get going until, you know, until it's kicked off.
But the room itself, I mean, visualize a conference, a big conference table in the middle of the room. And then you get four walls and you've got charts on every your first wall the main wall the main chart that they're looking at is the player chart and it's the draft eligible players that they've been ranking for months and months and months by position so for example you'll have you know start with the quarterbacks and the the top one that the clubs got rated he's at the top his card sits up.
And they got the quarterbacks rated from one to whatever. So they go by position offensively.
So you go quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends, et cetera, et cetera. Then you work your way all the way through defense.
So guys are just staring at the board, looking at all these players, wishing they could get them all, but they know they can't. And then on the other boards, you've got probably a blank board, which is where that card's going to go after he's selected, and they'll put them under teams and things like that.
So you've got a bunch of boards all over the place, and people right now are just sitting around staring at each other. And there's a lot of work goes into it, and it really doesn't get going until somebody's on the clock.
When your team is on the clock, how much chaos is going on in that room, or is it more that you've done your work and you know exactly what the plan is? Do you know who you're going to take before it becomes your pick? It really depends on where you're picking. I mean, on the clock, you're on the clock.
You should have a pretty good idea. It depends on the round and so on and so forth.
But, I mean, you can sit on the clock and and get the player on

the phone and make sure he's you know that he's okay that's that's a tradition that everybody does you know now we're talking about later picks you know not the first round but the second round is i get it we're on the clock we've got our guy get him on the phone make sure he's okay make sure he didn't get the car accident make sure he's not in jail you know what get him on the phone let's talk to him and and that that is a you know that's a whole nother topic but that phone call that that player gets is the most memorable phone call in his lifetime when that phone rings and he answered it and it may not be the head coach immediately what we like to do is we give it to the area scout and say hey get him on the phone make sure he's okay before we turn the card in and the area scout will call him and say hey this is john smith with the with the tennessee titans uh stay on the phone i got coach for you uh just a minute and you could hear it all go go wild behind him in the room you know with the family and stuff but that phone call is is a a once in a lifetime phone

call so anyway you're on the clock um you know teams are going to trade try to get into your

spot if the teams have done their work they've called you before you get on the clock picks

maybe two or three picks or maybe rounds before it's like hey would you would you want you're

going to stay there you would you want to move down and you know all right well we'll think about

moving down what do you got for us and then you know you know, you'll talk numbers and talk picks and talk players and do all those kind of things. And, you know, if you move, you move.
If you don't, you stay. And then you take your guy.
What's – so the hierarchy in terms of decision-making, because obviously an NFL team, some teams the owner gets the last say, or I guess the owner always gets kind of the last say but some teams the owner's more involved sometimes the GM who gets the final say the coach what has it been like you know in your experience um and when you don't have the final say if you were ever in that situation like would there be a spot where you were just arguing for your guy and you're just like all right I got to walk away because there's just nothing I can, I think in those cases, what you do going in is you agree to disagree. If you can't agree on a player, then you have to go on to the next player.
But it should be a consensus. It should be a feel-good thing with everybody in the room.
Now, yes, some owners are in there and some are very, very involved and some other owners aren't. And it's, you know, like Mr.
Cronkite with the with the Rams. We'd call Stan and tell him, hey, we're two players away, and this is what we're looking at, and we're thinking about either going this way or that way.
And he goes, great, good luck. Versus a very active owner who's in there with a pick.
I've got one great story for you. This is funny.
When I was with the 49ers way back when, 92, 93, you know, there was a tradition there. And Carmen Policy, who was the president, he got to come in and make the last pick.
It was just like that was what they did. So I remember him walking up to the board.
I think it was the final pick, something close to that. But he walked up the board, he looked around, and he grabbed this quarterback.

And his name was Elvis Gerbach from Michigan. And he said, I like this guy because there's so few vowels in his last name.
So we took Elvis. But, you know, some guys will pick.
And, you know, some owners obviously have a lot to do with the say. But, you know, it's the head coach and the GM and the director of player personnel that are making the decisions.
And it's always going to be, regardless of who makes the decisions, it's always going to be a we thing. And sometimes I've been in draft rooms where, okay, guys, I know there's some disagreement here, but when we put this card in, this is our pick.
And you put all the opinions aside, and it becomes the organization's pick. Out of all the drafts that you've been in, is there one that stands out to you where there was a lot of disagreement about that first-round pick? In the first-round pick, no.
No, I can't say that. The first-round are, I mean, they're there.
You know, you've done so much work. You've gone through your own mock drafts.
You've gone through everything. So I can't say disagreement on.
There's frustration that takes place in different rounds. You know, you'll be looking at your board and say, for example, example you got a linebacker up there that you you've kind of you've kind of set as a as your ideal third round or fourth round pick like this is a steal here's our steal here's our guy on the fourth round and the guy comes off the board the end of the first or the second and you go whoa we missed this right you know then all eyes go on the scout or the people that put the grade on him, you know, and so on and so forth.
But not a lot of disagreement with respect to picks. Now, do you want, were the emotions really, sometimes you have to keep them in check, is when all of a sudden you're getting ready to trade.
You know, the aggressive trade up during the draft is very emotional, but you're doing it for a reason. You want to go get your guy.
Most of those big trades that take place, and like here, we're getting ready to go tonight, but most of the big trades take place. The ones I've been involved with, the Washington Redskins, the RG3 trade in 2012, or the golf trade where we went to one with Tennessee, those took place weeks, maybe a month beforehand.
So, you know, you've got plenty of time to do that. But when you start trading around or trading down out of a pick, you better have done your homework.
You know, with all these smoke screens and all this stuff going on, the one thing that I think people miss, and I think it's one of the most important aspects of the draft, and we saw some of that, I think, and you guys probably talked about what happened at Oakland when he just excused everybody and said, I don't want anybody in the room. Well, because they don't want any information out.
Then I read something where Gil Brent said they planted some stuff and caught a scout leaking some information. But keep this in in mind you know everybody in the room knows how your organization feels about players but the thing you got to be careful of is those teams that may be just one pick or two picks above you those are the ones you got to watch out for because if they get any sense for who you want then it's game on and you got to be careful and I give you a great example in our first draft in 1995 it was expansion draft so you got Carolina Jacksonville and Houston and that was my first draft as a head coach, working with my longtime good friend Floyd Reese, his first draft.
And so we're working together. The night before, Carolina rumors, there's going around that they're going to trade out to Cincinnati, and Cincinnati's going to go up and get Kajana Carter.
So we felt that was probably going to be a done deal. Number two now is Jacksonville.
So Coach Coughlin's expansion team they already got their quarterback did expansion draft they got brunel and we're hearing that they want you know tony baselli offensive tackle from usc and we're three and our guy is mcnair and our guy is mcnair to the point where bud adams mr adams our owners got his airplane in New York ready to fly Steve back. So word was

out that Steve was our guy. So guess what? Jacksonville's on the clock now because John Carter goes to Cincinnati.
Jacksonville's on the clock, and Tom Coughlin calls. And he goes, hey.
He said, we're sitting here, and I'm getting some calls from people down below us that want your quarterback. And we're thinking about trading out of this spot.
And then it was like, Floyd was like, oh, shit. So he says, what do you want? And Coach Coughlin says, we'll take a fourth and we'll trade places with you.
You get your quarterback, I'll get our guy, and we'll go on. We'll be happy.
Floyd hangs up the phone, and we go back and forth, back and forth, off from a sixth, no, off from a fifth, no. And at that point, you know, we kind of – we had a sense that they're bluffing.
They're going to take their tackle. And so for two minutes after we said, no, we're going to stay put, it was tense.
And then when Commissioner Tagliabue gets on the speaker phone there in the draft room, you can hear him say, with the second pick in the 1995 NFL draft, the Jacksonville, and as soon as he said Jacksonville, we were relieved. Jacksonville took Buscelli, we got McNair.
So basically the point is is that they knew who we wanted they were going to try to bluff a pick out of us because they knew who we wanted fast forward 2000 I don't know whenever we had the Hainsworth draft in Tennessee we were picking 12 or 13 the New York Giants are behind us one pick behind us and. And I think we've got New Orleans ahead of us, and we're hearing New Orleans is going to take receivers, Stallworth out of Tennessee.
So we're hoping that either Hainsworth or Buchanan, Philip Buchanan was here from Miami, fall. Those are our guys that are picked.
And as it starts to unfold, New Orleans goes on the clock, and and we got both of them. We're staring at both of them.
So we get to pick between both the guys that we coveted. So we knew that the Giants wanted Jeremy Shockey to tie it in, right? So guess what? We stand up.
I stood up in the draft room. I go, anybody want to get a pick real quick? We'll get our guy.
You guys want to see if we can pick up a pick, a late-round pick? Yeah pick yeah we get to call to new york and say hey um we're getting ready to trade out of this spot because somebody wants your tight end and ernie of course he goes oh shit he hangs up he calls back he says what do you want i said well we'll take a fourth and he hangs up again he calls back says you got it so that's great we switch with. They get the tight end.
We go to one pick below and we get Hainsworth. And then about an hour later, Coach Flossel calls and said, hey man, how's it going? Congratulations.
You got your guy. We got our guy.
Everything's happening. He goes, how about did so-and-so want the tight end? And we go, who? And he goes, you son of a bitch oh that's so good and hangs a phone that's so good for things that go on but the point the point is is that you know with all the smoke screens and all this and all the posturing and all the talk and speculation everything if somebody above you knows who you want watch out yeah because that's where that's where it gets tense i love It's like a big game of chess, but it's, you know, Jeff Fisher and Andy Reid and all the guys we love to watch on Sundays.
So can you remember a time when maybe you did stay and, you know, someone called and you called their bluff and you're like, all right, well, hopefully they're bluffing. Do you remember a time when a guy got taken before maybe a pick or two before and he was your guy and ended up being a great player? And you're like, gosh, we missed on him.
I would have loved to have a chance to take him, but he got taken right before. Well, yeah, I'll give you a great example.
It was our first or second year in St. Louis.
And I had gone to my youngest son was playing at Auburn so I went down it was a bye week or something and I walked down went down and watched Auburn against Utah State I think it was and this linebacker dude was just wrecking the Auburn offense and so we get fast forward we get into that next offseason I'm kind of kind of going back and looking at some tape and find out that the linebacker's name was Bobby Wagner. And I'm doing the research, and we got – it was that player I mentioned about earlier.
We got like a fourth or fourth-round grade on the guy. And, you know, you can't look at everybody, but I just felt the guy was just laid and laid.
You know, this guy's going to be really good. Maybe we got him graded too low.
And, you know, we get in that, I don't know, we got in the third round and we're looking at him, but we thought, oh, no, we were told or convinced that, oh, no, he'll be there next time around. You're reaching for him.
No, we got to take this guy now or he's going to be gone. And sure enough, you know, we passed.
I don't know who we took, but then he's gone the next pick, and then, you know, you don't get a great player. So, you know, those kind of things happen.
You know, you get frustrated with them, and then you go back and you do your due diligence, and how did we miss on this guy? And, you know, it's not necessarily misses. It's more of people covet people.
And they've got players that fit, they like, and so they're going to go out and get their guys and it's you know it's that that old you know do you draft need or you draft best athlete well you know you better go get your guys you know if you're going to draft a little sooner then then it's okay and i always like you guys know how i've told about this i always like the draft grades that are going to come out on mond. Yes.
Teams are going to get A's and B's and C's and D's and all kinds of stuff by all the experts that were watching for the next three hours and over the weekend, and they're going to give everybody grades, but they don't circle back three or four years after. That's when you really grade the draft.
Do you ever actually catch yourself looking at those grades that come out? Oh, yeah, you thumb through them.

I mean, I'm taking serious, you're just laughing.

You get even more pissed off about guys that are talking about things they don't know what

they're talking about.

Right.

I remember right after the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson, the lead Bleacher Report writer

at the time, they drafted Russell Wilson, Bruce Irvin, somebody else, I forget.

But it said, I don't see a single starting player out of this entire draft. Grade F.
Yeah, that's good. That's really good.
I want to jump back. Actually, that draft real quick.
You mentioned the trade with the Redskins where I think they gave you four picks for the right to move up to get Robert Griffin. And then, of course, later on, when you were playing against the Redskins, you sent out all those players as captain for the coin toss against RG3.
You denied that you knew what you were doing, but just admit that you knew what you were doing. I don't know if I denied it.
I was the one that had to leak it because no one recognized it. That's so good.
Game was over, and it was actually, you know, you're just going to – as a head coach, you've got the game, you're preparing it was actually you know you're just gonna you as a head coach you got the game you're preparing stuff and you know you have your three captains that are picked they're your captains for the season and i always pick the you know one or two guys based on performance or based on something just to be a captain each week and and i'll give credit where credit's due is chris long he came up with the idea he comes by my little office there stadium. He goes, hey, I had a great idea.
I go, what's that? He goes, why don't we? I go, shit, man, I wish I'd have thought about that. Yeah, I'll do that.
So anyway, we sent the six guys out there for the coin toss that we got in the trade. And then the game, we won the game.
The game's over. And there's no mention of it.
And so I actually had to leak it to Ashley. It was Jim Thomas, one of the sportswriters in St.
Louis, that we had done it. And it came out, and then it became a big deal.
But, you know, it was all in fun. Daniel and Bruce loved that stuff.
But, yeah, so that thing was done. That thing was done.
We had two trade partners, and it was done in March i mean you know we were dealing with mike and bruce and uh mike shanahan and and then our other trading partner at that time was cleveland and uh we just felt like we had the best deal with washington and we went ahead and did it you know way ahead of time now i don't can't remember off my head when it was when it was announced but that thing was done we. We had plenty of time.
Indy wanted Andrew, and Mike and Daniel just love RG3. Gosh, we had a private workout with him.
We loved him too, but we had Bradford. We had a good quarterback.
As you get longer into your career as an NFL head coach, are there certain guys that you are more inclined to do trades with? Like if we're looking at the draft board tonight, watching it on TV, we don't know the inner workings. Are there certain teams that are like, those guys will link up because they know each other, they trust each other, and they've done deals before with each other? Or is it just kind of all fair game, you'll pick up the phone from anyone? Well, when the phone – to answer answer your question it's i mean you do have a relationship over time with people but yeah during the draft this weekend everybody's everybody's best friend or worst friend you know they just the phone rings and hey it's someone hey jeff this is so and so with so and so yeah how's it going good how you kids? Good.
Boom, boom, boom. Hey, you want to stay there or you want to move? Well, you know, why don't you get back with us here.
We'll consider moving. And then, you know, they never get back with you.
So it's game on. Everybody's calling everybody.
I mean, if you're trying to get up, all of a sudden something happens, and it usually happens in the later rounds. You know, hey, you guys are going off the board, boom, off the board boom boom boom boom boom and all of a sudden your board's not looking good you want to go up to get this guy and now you start you gotta you gotta start calling teams you'll have five or six guys in your room making calls at one time you know and so so say hey who called the giants well i did what they say no okay what about the Packers? No.
Yeah. What about Miami? Yeah.
They're up, they're warm. They'll consider, you know, and now you got, okay.
So we got two people that are interested. All right.
Get them on the phone kind of thing. You know, it's that kind of stuff.
Yeah. Yeah.
What about, uh, so you have your group of scouts and this is maybe more of a human nature thing that I always wonder if like human nature, how we interact with each other leaks into an NFL war room.

Is there like if one guy screws up,

maybe a scout has,

he loves this guy and he ends up being a bust.

And then you guys are in the heated discussion a few years later being like,

should we take this guy?

Should we not?

Did anyone,

will anyone like hold it against him?

Be like,

yeah,

but you loved X,

Y,

Z three years ago.

And he was a bus kind of like negging each other and going after each other i mean yeah i mean guys can but you know understand the hierarchy you know you have a general manager then you have a director of college scouting director player personnel and then you've got your scouts and you've got area scouts and guys that one guy they'll be in charge of an area then you'll have other guys to cross so, you know, you've got a lot of opinions on a player. It's just not one.
And so, and then there's so much discussion that goes into ranking in the player and everything that, you know, it really is a collaborative effort. And it is a team grade on the player.
Okay. So, you know, and it is.
I mean, as people say, it's an imperfect sign. Hey, you know, I don't know if, you know, without any disrespect, but I don't know if New England drafts any better than anybody else.
Right. They might just coach better.
Right, right. They coach better.
Yeah, but it's probably a bad example because I'd say they probably do. They know they probably spend more time and have a different system than most, and they're very, very detailed and are going to go get their guys.
But the point I'm trying to make is that, you know, you're going to miss. Yeah.
It just happens. But, you know, you can't afford a high miss.
Yeah. Those are the ones that set you back.
Yeah. Those top picks that don't turn out to be something, especially at the quarterback position.
But when you go roll the dice and get somebody high over time, that sets a franchise back. Yes.
Because you were counting on that guy. And that's why big picture guys in the NFL, this is just a piece this weekend.
But you've got to combine nowadays, you've got to combine your draft effort and your players and those that you draft in addition to the post-draft, the round 7 through 12 we call them now, which is the undrafted free agency, the college free agency immediately after, that's where you get your players. But more importantly, you're building your team through free agency and through the draft.
It's a combination of both, and you've got to have a good feel. And so, you know, I mean, for example, you know, as a team enters pro free agency back when the calendar year started and they're, you know, they needed a defensive inning to pass rusher.
And they're looking at the college prospects in the upcoming draft. This is a good year for rushers.
All right. Well, maybe we'll see what we can do then, and we'll just roll the dice here and get one in the draft rather than go out and overpay for somebody that may or may not have worked out.
And so it's a combination. When you build your roster, you're going to have to use both markets.
And the draft has just won the markets. The league has just happened to have blown off the face of the earth right now from a tension standpoint.
Coach, every year, it seems like about this time, the week before the draft, a bunch of Wunderlich scores get leaked. Did you put any stock at all in the Wunderlich test? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you do. But the best way to describe this, it's unfortunate that that stuff gets leaked, number one.
But number two is the Wunderlich test is, you know, you go, gosh, these guys guys the league's been using a wonder lick test for 40 years yeah you want a baseline but so stock in it um you know i we have seen over the years players that had near perfect scores high 30s that could not play football and then we've had guys with really poor tests that were football geniuses. So you have to, you know, you use it as a, you know, maybe a trigger or just an indicator.
You know what? He's got a low test. He tried it three times.
This test is right around single digit, maybe 9, 10, 11. We've got research and guess what lo and behold you know there may be some what do you call alphabetic or numeric um dyslexia involved maybe he can't read he sure sure she can learn football he just can't read right so it's one of those things where okay if the test is low then let's go find out why the test is low right and and then if you got a guy that's going to have a hard time processing football and life and so on so forth then you stay stay away from him and that brings up another point where you know there's uh teams have different philosophies whether they you know you you grade players and for whatever reason an off-the-field issue, or there's something that the player has done in the past where the club has said to themselves, you know what, we're going to, this is a good player, but we're not, we don't want them on our roster because of our organizational philosophy.
Then that guy goes on another board, or he goes up on your board with a different colored card and you know he's there this is his athletic ability this is where he's going to go on the draft but you know what we're not going to take him because he's got that color card and we don't want him as part of our program right and so you know those are you know those are some just some nuances that that are involved there but circ the Wanderlick, it's really unfair that that stuff gets out.

But it's just a baseline.

It's a starting point.

There's so much testing that goes on and interviewing that goes on.

Clubs have a pretty good idea about the player's ability to learn.

All right.

I have one last question for you, Coach.

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Talk us through what's going on right now because it's been electric. You've been all over Twitter.
When did this kind of awakening happen? Well, I'll tell you what. I got my butt drug across the asphalt for two years in social media.
Yeah. Okay.
And I just kind of decided that maybe it was time not to get even, but just to get involved. Yes.
And so it's like anything else, man. If you're going to do something new, you're going to need a little bit of help.
You want a little bit of training. You want someone that knows what they're doing.
And so I got involved, you know, well, I had my open, I had my Twitter since I was going to climb Kilimanjaro and I opened the Twitter account, the Twitter thing before the climb. And I got to Amsterdam because I was going to report back on my climb, and I couldn't get cell service, so I never used it.
So I had some followers back in. So it was there, but it wasn't active.
So I just activated it, and I'm having a blast with it. Yeah, it's awesome.
I mean, the gift thing, man, hey, I'm not going to detail,. If people know how to do it, just go down there and, yeah, just put your word in and pick the right thing.
No, don't give away the secret sauce. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Coach, come on. Coach, coach.
Hold on. You're giving away the game.
You guys are the best because you guys know that this is me. Some people go, oh, no, he's not doing that.
No, yeah, I am. I took the time.
I'm not fighting back, but enough was enough. Yeah.
Good for you, but just don't overuse the gift. No, no, no.
No, I think it's an opportunity. You don't want to put anybody down, but it's an opportunity to just show the motion.
Yeah. And I'm happy to think the, want some instructions on how to do it.
I'm happy to. I was at Whole Foods the other night and this dude comes up and taps me on the shoulder.
I got headphones on it, you know, kind of my own business so I get some dinner and some food and the guy taps me on the shoulder. I turn around and he goes, he goes, coach, I love that Twitter stuff.
Whoa.

First time I heard that.

It's a cool, yeah, you connect with people,

and it's a different side of, you know,

you're getting in on the conversation.

I think you're right on that.

Well, that asphalt was pretty hard.

Yep, yep.

Raw ass for two years, and it's like, you know what?

This isn't right.

No, we like it. It's an opportunity to put the truth out there, that's for sure.
Speaking of putting the truth out there, it was a rollercoaster of emotions last week for us. There was a report out that you were in line to become the head coach of the Houston XFL franchise and then you replied to it about two hours later saying essentially it's not going to happen um how are you have you been in talks with the xfl and if so is that something that has ever even come up for you well i um at that time when when it was it was broad i knew something had come out because i just i was fishing in mexico and i just got back into service and my phone came on and I had waves of texts and messages.

And the first wave came from a bunch of weight coaches and the next wave came from all offensive line coaches. And the next wave came from, and I knew something had happened.
And so, yeah, somebody, you know, we know who, who let it out, but no. And as I, as, mentioned, you know, a week or so ago, I've been contacted by them, but I haven't accepted a job.
And now I'm just listening to them right now. It's cool.
Unfortunately for the Alliance, because you guys know I was kind of – I was helping that program along because I'm friends with Charlie and I have great respect for Bill Pauly, and so I was kind of behind the scenes. And I was really disappointed for that to end the way it did because it's all about the players.
And we're just fortunate that so many players got opportunities to re-sign with NFL clubs. And that's what this is about.
It's another opportunity to give players an opportunity to play. And, you know, it's an opportunity.
It's different. But at this point, no, I'm, you know, I'm talking to them, but I have not accepted the position.
Well, we need you back in the NFL because I think you're 15 wins away from being top 10 all time in wins. So one season.
We need you back in the NFL. Hopefully it will happen soon.
Coach, it was awesome talking to you. Hopefully we'll see you soon, whether you're in New York or we're in Nashville.
But keep doing what you're doing. I've got some plans to come back to see you guys.
Perfect. Yeah.
It's been fun. Can I ask you guys a question? Why aren't you guys down on Broadway? I know.
You know what it is? The NFL draft, we've done a couple. We went to Chicago.
We went to Philly. It's not the best event to cover if you're not fully credentialed.
Because, you know, it's kind of a TV network thing. And if you're not part of one of the big boys, you kind of sit on the outside.
So it's not like the Combine or the Super Bowl where you can get a little more access. Yeah, right.
Your bar tab is just too high. Right.
You just answered the question. They're not going to send us to Nashville to party for a weekend.
You just didn't get your expense report. Yeah, exactly.
You didn't get your expense report approved. Exactly.
All right, Coach. Thanks so much.
We'll talk soon. Okay, guys.
Pleasure. See you guys soon.
All right. Take care, Coach.
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Okay, let's finish up with some segments.

We got some FAQs and some Game of Thrones preview.

First up, we have a Sabermetrics.

This came from the nerds at Harvard.

38 years of data suggests the quarterback is the most important piece of an NFL franchise. You think? No, doy.
Yeah, they did a good study, guys. Wow.
Food is the most important part of a meal. If you score more points, you'll win.
Yeah, fact. Score more points than your opponent, you will win.
The study was commissioned by Magic Johnson. Yeah, oh, speaking of Magic Johnson.
Back. I forgot to tell you guys.
The NBA, you have everything that you want in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Great coaching, great scorers, great offense, great defense, and star power.
That was Magic Johnson's preview of the Eastern Conference playoffs. I fucking love it.
You know what happened was somebody found out that Ryan Fitzpatrick was a decent NFL quarterback, and they started watching football for the first four weeks of the season, and they're like, I need to put together a study about this because that guy seems like he's really putting it all together. Yeah, like, wait, this guy's playing well and the team's doing well? Mm-hmm.
Huh. We've got to put some money.
You know what? Let's do a 38-year study on this thing. Interesting.
It's actually credit to this guy because he's probably just a person who's too smart for their own interests. They should be all into books and hobbies and all that stuff, but they really just love football.
But they were smart enough to get into Harvard, and they're like, okay, how do I combine what I actually like, football, and the fact that I'm at Harvard? Okay, I'll just watch football for 38 years and come up with the conclusion that quarterbacks are important. And listen, if you are a student or a professor at MIT,

this is a direct shot

across the bow

at you

in your little

Sloan sports conference.

Yeah.

Harvard is coming

for that ass.

Yeah, oh,

the three-point shot's important?

Yeah.

What about quarterbacks,

idiots?

I put together

this heat map

that shows how

Dirk Nowitzki's career

has progressed.

Oh, you should walk

more in baseball.

Yeah.

How about quarterbacks?

Dumbass.

Bunting actually

doesn't lead to scoring more runs. Well, have you ever fucking thought about the fact that a quarterback makes your team kick ass? Have you ever thought about Daniel Jones revolutionizing? I can't even say it because it's just, it's like Archie Manning was getting in my throat right there.
Yeah. A phantom ghost being like, you were about to say something nice about Archie Manning.
Every now Daniel Jones. Yeah.
Nope. Have you ever thought about how this kid that looks like he was in Dead Poets Society growing up is going to actually make the New York Giants really fucking sweet? Yeah.
Oh, man, this is going to be awesome. Quarterbacks, they revolutionize football.
So way to go, Harvard. We have a just chill out man for Nick Saban.
Nick Saban had hip surgery. Not cool surgery, but he had surgery on his hip.
Yes, exactly. Not hip surgery.
It was hip surgery not like not cool surgery but he had surgery on his hip yes exactly not hip surgery it was hip surgery and uh he i think it's usually a couple weeks probably when you get a replacement hip uh no i i think it depends on what kind of surgery listen as somebody who's had surgery more recently than you okay i think i speak uh from a level of expertise here there are certain hip surgeries that you can have where you can actually walk out of the hospital that day. Oh, okay.
So, well, Nick Saban took one full day off after his hip surgery, and he had this to say. I did some rehab at home on Tuesday and threw away the walker after one day.
I've got a cane, and I'm rolling now. Saban added that the six hours he was at home on Tuesday with nothing to do was like torture.
I don't know how people do it. So Saban got a cane on the same day that the Canes beat the Cavs.
Now it's all making sense. It does make sense.
It does make a lot of sense to me. Yeah, just chill out.
It's the offseason. Six hours.
Six hours Nick Saban didn't do anything and he couldn't bear it it's the off season nick you might have a problem nick also he went golfing the morning of his hip surgery to get like i i respect that move it's like if you're going in for heart surgery you might as well eat a cheeseburger right you might just die you might never come back so you might want to just golf one last yeah they're gonna fix this thing later on this afternoon so yeah might as well just go. All right, before we get to FAQs, we have a hmm.
So there was a thread about the wiretapping in the NCAA today. We're running pretty long if you want to just...
Oh, no, no, no. Let me get to this real quick.
So there was discussions of paying for Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson by schools that landed neither of them. Which school got both? Wait, they got both of them? Both the guys that were going to get paid somewhere else? Wait, let me read that again, and maybe I didn't read it right.
Yeah, please. There were discussions of paying for Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson from Duke at those discussions? By schools that landed neither.
No. Or neither, if you want to sound like you're fucking hoity-toity.
A school that didn't land either of them. Yeah.

Those schools that tried to pay for Zion Williamson and Marvin Bagley, they didn't land them.

The schools where Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson with their people were talking about getting paid.

So essentially Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson were on the open market to be bought, but

all of a sudden no one was able to buy them except for... Oh, dude.
I figured it out. Wait, Duke was in the report? I figured it out.
I figured it out, Big Cat. They were going to get paid from other schools, but they said, you know what? The college degree that we'll earn from Duke is worth more in the long term.
So they decided to go for the diploma, a long termterm investment, as opposed to a quick infusion of cash. Let that be a lesson to all you youngsters out there.
Wow. Good job by Duke to do the right thing here.
I mean, I agree. I read the article.
It's a terrible look for Clemson basketball. I mean, we've talked about this before.
It's like they probably had those conversations. It probably wasn't Zion.
It was probably like an uncle or aunt or whatever, family member, without even their knowledge. and once they realized what was going on and that they would probably get caught if they took money like it's one thing to have the conversation but to actually exchange money like that that becomes a whole thing right no it's actually a problem to have the conversation i'm sure you tell coach k like coach like these bad guys are offering me money what should i do and he's like son like come to duke i'll show you the i'll show you the way i'll protect you from people that are trying to pay you.
So it's honestly Coach K is a savior. Probably the only good guy left in sports.
Yeah. Him and Pitino.
Because they actually said that Pitino was not aware at all of anything that was going out. He trusted people too much.
That's his only crime. So good company.
Yeah. Pitino and Coach K.
Yeah. All the NCAA is corrupt except for Coach K.
Yeah. Until reports say otherwise.
Okay. Let's finish up with some FAQs in Game of Thrones.
If there's 52 weeks in a year and 7 days in a week, why is 52 times 7 364 instead of 365? Where's the extra day? Wait. Say it again? D-Day.
The longest day 52 weeks in a year 7 days in a week 52 times 7 equals 364 Instead of 365 The leap day That pops up every now and then That evens it out, right? Ja Rule's birthday I don't know Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah. All right, so 365.
So there's a five at the end of that. So it's five, 10, 15, 20.
But sometimes they're... But that's four years.
And then you add the one that's 21 divided by seven is three. I just fucking...
You just said a lot of numbers. That was genius math, by the way.
You said a lot of numbers, and I'm doing the Zach Galifianakis meme right now. Yeah, that was genius math.
I'm going to agree with Big Cat. The real ones, no.
The Harvard people, no. Quarterbacks are good.
Big Cat can add five times four. And leap days are the answer to Hank's question.
So this is kind of a little pre-related FAQ for Monday's interview. It's a good idea, though.
PFT and Big Cat should both buy donkeys.

This way, if Yellow Twins the Home Run Derby,

they can have them slaughtered and eat each other's asses.

That's fucked up, man.

If he doesn't win, Brandon Walker can take care of the two donkeys down in Tupelo.

I'm not going to...

Tupelo.

Listen, I'm not interested in killing a donkey.

Nope.

That's not how I operate.

Plus, Kenny Smith already did the donkey thing for Charles Barkley

when Charles Barkley had to kiss his ass. What about if we just bought some elderly donkeys? And just let them die? Yeah.
Didn't feed them. We didn't, you know what that's We didn't kill them.
That's a good point. We didn't keep them alive.
Big cat because we didn't put a timetable on when we had to eat each other's asses. Correct.
Yeah. That's correct.
Seriously if I'm 80 years old I'll eat your ass no problem. Yeah.
I probably probably won't have an ass i just have people asking you when you're going to do it oh the next 80 years oh and i'll tell them eventually yeah soon you hey freak why do you want us to eat each other's ass so bad for the weirdo here's the deal the first person to die gets smothered by the other person's ass on their deathbed done and then the other guy eats the's ass. Could you imagine how much that would suck if one of us died in the next year? It's like, well, you show up to the funeral home.
You're like, can I see that body real quick? I brought some moist towelettes. Do something real quick here.
Okay. All right.
I'll see you. All right.
Bye. FAQ Big Cat, did you ever go multi-TV Game of Thrones? You could blow through the series if you watched two episodes at a time.
No, that would be fucking insane. That would be awesome.
I did go Game of Thrones, Top TV, and Sports on the bottom two. But so I didn't.
If I have. Top TV is the bigger one, right? Yeah, if I have gaps in my Thrones knowledge, it's probably because I was watching and gambling on sports underneath it that's that's power tv user status right there do you think a guy like neil degrasse tyson could put on four episodes of game of thrones at once and tell you what happened in a linear fashion afterwards yeah it's like the speed readers guys you can read books in like 20 minutes yeah the game of thrones challenge psychos that listen to this podcast at two times speed oh yo people yo.
What the fuck is wrong with you? People who are listening to this at two times speed, you're a fucking weirdo. That was regular speed.
That's even going to be fast. Yeah, that probably will be fast.
And you guys are idiots. Alright, let let's get into it.
All right. You ready? Game of Thrones.
I don't know what the music is. I was going to let you go as long as you wanted to there.
Okay, Hank. And PFT.
Don't patronize me. No, I will patronize you.
There is going to be a big battle on Sunday's episode. 90 minutes.
By the way, we're going to tape the show before, and then we're going to just add the Game of Thrones stuff after. Okay.
That was just us planning the show live on the show. A little peek behind the scenes.
Holy shit. All right.
So, there's going to be a big battle. A lot of people are going to die.
I made a list of people that I would be most upset would die, and people that I don't give a fuck about, and I'm actually kind of rooting for their death. You guys can comment on it, okay? people that I would be most upset would die and people that I don't give a fuck about and I'm actually kind of rooting for their death.

You guys can comment on it, okay?

People that I would most...

I didn't include Jon Snow, Dany, and Sansa because I just don't think they're going to

die.

So people I'd be most upset if they died.

One.

Any of the two dragons remaining.

Yep.

That will be heartbreaking.

Isn't there a third one?

Buddy.

Are you sitting down? I know he's dead, but he's alive, right? Well. Dead guys are the bad guys.
He's part of the dead crew. Yeah, but I just don't want to see any dragon die.
He joined the Yankees. There's no such thing as a bad dragon.
It's like a bad dog. They're all 13 out of 10.
What if the dead dragon kills the other two? Yeah, that's a bad dragon, bro. It's like a pit bull.
Yeah, not good. Okay.
Not good. So either dragon.
Not all pit bulls. Oh, you're about to get it.
Hank, anti-pit bull stance. Still has a quarter pit bull, dude.
I know. Hank, die.
Not all pit bulls. Team pit bull over here.
Yeah. Mr.
Worldwide. All right.
So any of the dragons die, we're going to be very upset. Tormund, I'll be very upset.
That's the big ginger guy who's Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, he's going to die.

Oh, he's for sure going to die.

He's going to die, absolutely.

The other thing to not only consider is that...

He's going to choke on a nipple.

Maybe.

People that are going to be heartbreaking deaths

and people that are going to be even more heartbreaking

when they get brought back to life and then start fucking up.

As the dead people.

Tormund is the number one.

Yeah, because he will kill so many people as a dead guy.

As a dead guy to dead guy, he's going to kill some people.

Follow-up question. Do the White Walker zombie people, do they lactate? Because he'll probably lose his strength if he can't get that breast milk.
Well, then again, their bones are very brittle. You're right.
They do crumble pretty quickly, but then they build back up as soon as the Night King does his stupid dance. He raises his hands.
I've seen the gif. Yeah.
All right. He's like a rude guy sitting at a fucking, like, looking for the check.
Like, here, check. You know when someone's like, oh, here, waitress, come here, give me the check.
Like, fucking put your hand down, asshole. So how come we haven't seen that guy? Because he might be in the crypt.
No, so this is- Or with Cersei. We asked for submissions, and pretty much this is kind of like fading the public.
The most common theory that people sent us, like what they think is going to happen, is that the Night King is on his way to King's Landing, like pulling a little hezzy hay. Hezzy hay.
He's going to King's Landing while the rest of the army of the dead fight it out at Winterfell. He's going to kill everyone at King's Landing, bring them to life, and then go to Winterfell the other way.
Fuck them all up. Absorb them.
But because so many people said that, I hope that's not what happens. That's true.
My biggest hope for the episode is like, no one is right with their theories. I hope they just do something that's like so off script and just turns.
Because people think it's like, okay, they're going to kill the Night King and then it's going to be Cersei and it and it's going to be two different, like, one story ends, and then they figure out the throne stuff, and then it ends. I hope they just somehow figure out a way to just blend it all, and then the last four episodes are just pure chaos.
What if they go right up against each other in the middle of the field, and they're like, ah, we're going to fight, and then they all drop their weapons, Kendall Jenner comes out with a Pepsi, and then they're like, we all fuck each other, and's like hey you guys thought incest was gross how about necrophilia and it's just a fucking the last three episodes just people fucking dead bodies and even their asses they've lost a bet to them before yes i have a theory about the theories okay i think that the game of thrones producers have people that they've paid to go on these reddit forums oh yeah and give These theories that that make total sense just designed to throw people off the scent. Well, here's what also probably happened is there's probably some people on these forums.
I don't even know where they are. Reddit, their forums, their Twitter, whatever.
They were probably right with something early on because they read the book and idiots like me don't realize that the book gave some of the script, right? Yeah. So they're gonna happen and they're like fuck dude how'd you know so then they get a little taste of that sweet sweet i'm getting like upvoted on this forum it's fucking awesome everyone thinks i'm a genius so now they got to do their second act their encore they're just making up shit yeah so it's like the krasenstein brothers are true facts stated on Twitter that got a few things right about the Mueller investigation and now they're citizen journalists who fuck everything up.
How weird is it when they reply to each other? Very strange. They definitely kiss.
Speaking of incest, I think they're Game of Thrones characters. Stick to Thrones.
Okay, alright. Tormund, really sad.
Brianna Tarth, very sad. If she dies, Sir Knight Brienne of Tarth.
Sir Davos, Hank's favorite. The Onion Knight, very sad if he dies.
I don't think he will. Which one's the Onion Knight? He's got a sweet accent.
He's got a beard. He's not really a fighter.
He's like, I'm not a fighter. He was feeding that girl soup last episode.
Oh, yeah. I remember the soup.
And then he saw the girl with the fucking fucked up face and is like, hey, I had a best friend who was 13 year old 13 years old who had a face like that girl she got burned alive she's gonna get and the girl that he gave soup to she's gone for sure mercilessly killed oh yeah oh yeah uh aria would bum me out big time so would gendry uh and then podrick and braun will round out the list of i'll feel bad two seconds. People, I don't give a fuck if they die.
Bran, I hope that fuck gets skull fucked in the middle of the field. Bad take.
Because he's so awkward. It's the guy in the wheelchair.
I know Lieutenant Bran. He's so annoying.
Yeah, Lieutenant Bran. He's so fucking annoying.
He ruins every scene. Yeah, that's a great take.
Terrible take. No, I agree with Hank.
It's a bad take. I saw that someone said that Bran's been dead this whole time.
Yeah. He's the three-eyed raven.
Yeah, he is. What's his name in Sixth Sense? Bruce Willis.
Yeah. Spoiler.
Bran can kick rocks, but my favorite part of Game of Thrones is the lore, the old school flashbacks, tying all that shit together. So if he dies, all that stuff goes away.
I don't care. Theon, that dickless fuck.
Has Bran ever fucked? No. No.
Dude, he's like 12. He should have been fucked.
No, he's not 12. Well, he's seen fuck.
Yeah, he's seen fuck. Jamie.
Someone, speaking of Theon, someone, this is a funny theory. They said, Theon's going to shock the world by revealing he never has a cock, or never lost his cock.
Bang Sansa, kill the Night King, and be given the Iron Throne as a result. Oh, that'd be sick.
Grey Worm, don't care about him either. Sick of him.
He's going to die. He's just like, dude, you're falling in love with this girl, and all you can do is eat her out, and that's cool.
That's awesome. You're probably really good at cunnilingus, but I just don't care about this love story.
I'm sorry. It can never be consummated in my mind.
Yeah, and Jorah rounds out that list. If Jorah dies, it's like, dude, you spent seven seasons being in the friend zone, and then you died fighting for her.
Just one time, just be like, hey, you know what? We should get married. Do you think these eunuchs are allegorical for the anti-circumcision movement? It's like, hey, circumcising somebody is analogous to cutting their entire package off.

Isn't there a dream, a recurring dream where, oh no, that's your teeth falling out.

I was going to say my foreskin falling off.

That happened a while ago.

For mental health.

Like, everyone's losing their dick and it's actually all a big dream.

That's interesting too.

Yeah.

And then Samuel Tarly, when he dies, it's just going to be kind of fun. I'll actually probably laugh.
And that doesn't mean I don't like him. It's just he's like, oh, sorry, didn't see you there.
Oh, I was reading this book. Oh.
And it's like he's just going to die. He's just going to be like, oh, I got stabbed.
He's the guy that stole all the books. Yeah.
Nerd. What about Jaime and Tyrion? No, Jaime, I don't really care if he dies.
I mean, I guess it would be a little emotional. Tyrion's not going to die, so I don't count him.
I hope Tyrion dies. In the last episode, he was like, I'm going to die in Winterfell, and he said maybe after I die, I can go kill.
He foreshadowed that he's going to go kill Cersei. Who's the guy that slept with the girl that grew up? That's Gendry.
Gendry. He's got king's blood.
Gendry's going to die. Yeah, he probably will.
Yeah, he's too sympathetic of a character he's a nice guy pretty much everyone's gonna die on Sunday and I don't know there will be a range of emotions there will be some that I will feel really bad and there's some I'll laugh I get really when I watch very intense things like what Sunday will be I kind of laugh at awkward moments kind of like when I laughed at you when you thought you were going to die on the turbulence. Like, I don't know.
It's just something I have. Ser Brienne of Tarth, I think she's dead, too.
Oh, she's for sure dead. She's going to be heartbreaking.
She was so happy when she was knighted. She'd be another one.
Her and Tormund, if they come back as fighters, that will be tough. They will kick ass.
Because if they kill someone else, like if Ser Brienne of Tarth kills Davos. I got a dumb question.
It's going to be really bad. I got a dumb question about all this.
What's the fucking big deal if the Winter Army kills everybody and brings it back to life as a bunch of frozen zombies and just everyone's a frozen zombie walking around? Because then history's forgotten. But then everyone's just like walking around.
Yeah, they might be a little bit cold. But who gives a shit? Okay, I'll throw it back at you.
They're happy. There are no more wars.
PFT, I'll throw it back at you. Think of the dead army as concussions.
Last weekend, you went to Cannabis Cup. Probably nice to go visit there.
Would you want to live at Cannabis Cup? I'm pretty sure if you got high enough, you wouldn't care. Yeah, well, that's exactly what the Army of the Dead is.
It's literally Cannabis Cup where they just forget all of history and walk around being like, whoa. It would just be a giant fish concert.
Right. Is that a bad thing? Yeah.
The song never ends. Yeah.
All one song, bro. I hope that happens.
That's my new prediction. Okay.
Everybody just turns into a zombie and they're happy forever. They can't go in water, so you at least have that.
Everything else is fine. All right.
It's actually ... That's the M.
Night Shyamalan twist. It's signs.
Remember Water Kills the Aliens? Yep. What if M.
Night Shyamalan just pops

out? We're ruining all kinds of M. Night Shyamalan

movies. Do you know he's like a diehard Sixers fan?

He's in all the games. Yeah, all the games.

Isn't that kind of weird? Plot twist, they lose.

Yeah, plot twist, Ben Simmons won't shoot a three.

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