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We also have the Mount Rushmore of guys You'd Want to Punch in the Face.

We're going to talk some NBA draft.

We're going to talk a little things we missed.

We have been a little out of pocket, so it's going to be free-flowing.

Maybe not a lot of facts in this episode.

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Today is Friday, June 27th.

And Hank, we did it.

It's Friday.

Let's go,

boys.

You got there.

Two Fridays in one week.

Two Fridays in one week.

Hank made a great point, though.

He was like, I get it mixed up because, you know, it's like show days.

Yeah.

So like today would be Hank's Sunday.

Right.

And we're doing a show now.

Yeah.

It is, it is Thursday as we're taping this, but it's Friday as people are listening.

So that counts.

We had the NBA draft.

Just as a disclaimer, I said at the beginning of the show, we have been

playing golf for the last two days, taping a lot of content.

Very out of pocket.

This is going to be a low fact show.

Low fact show, but a lot of takes.

I think we should substitute the facts for takes.

Well, let's start with this.

Credit to us because we were right about Cooper Flag three years ago, almost to the day.

Yep.

I found the clip when we basically predicted it, and we said Cooper Flag will be the first white American that will get drafted in the 1-1 overall in the NBA three years ago.

So we were first to have it.

Yeah, I think what really settled it was finding out his name was Cooper Flag and that he was from Maine.

Yes.

That's the guy that we need to be back.

Also in the clip, you did say, PFT, you called your shot for Grady Dick.

So we'll just keep that part out.

What's Grady Dick up to?

He's in the league.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

We're not far off.

No, we weren't far off.

But yeah, Cooper Flag goes 1-1 overall, which we all knew was going to happen.

There was some awesome Fire Nico chance going on.

Also, Nico Harrison just continues to confirm that he's a shithead and maybe an idiot because when he was talking about getting Cooper Flag 1-1 overall, he said, fortune favors the bold.

Yeah, it's a bold move.

I don't know.

That's just not how that quote works.

He didn't, I guess he did do something bold, but that didn't.

That's not why he got the number one pick.

Maybe he was talking about the lottery.

Like he was rewarded in the lottery because he was bold enough to trade Luca.

Right.

Fortune favors the bold, but I did enjoy the Fire Nico chance.

That was great.

Yeah, I mean, congrats to the Mavericks fans.

I know nothing's going to replace having Luca, but this is a pretty good consolation prize, right?

Really good.

It worked out pretty well for you.

Now, this morning, I tuned in to Get Up.

Did you get to watch Get Up at all?

I did not watch Get Up this morning.

Well, you missed out because one of the first topics,

should the Mavericks be favored to be the team that gives Oklahoma City a run for its money out of the West next season?

Oh, wow.

Cooper Flagg,

AD,

Kyrie.

Think about it.

It seems like they're the next one up.

Is Kyrie...

He tours ACL, right?

So he's going to be out for at least a little bit.

He'll be out for a little bit.

Yeah, but it's fun to think about, like, we're already shitting on the thunder.

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, you got to do it instantly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, it was disappointing.

They took it to seven.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

It was.

I'm disappointed.

By the way, did you see Tyrese Halliburton?

Poor guy.

I mean, his post was very, like, it sucked, like, him having to write that all out.

But then he also had what was clearly a scheduled WWE tweet ad that he had to post.

That was sad.

That is sad.

How long ago do you think he scheduled that?

I don't know.

Well, not that because he did use like

what's happening today.

He said, on the upside, my character is now available in WWE 2K25.

That's good.

Go cop the Dunkin destruction pack today.

That's a good way to actually make it have more interaction is to just toss something in about the injury.

Yeah, right.

But that did, that did, that was kind of sad.

I have one scheduled tweet that I put in like two years ago because I scheduled the tweets of part of my take to go out at 7 a.m.

every morning that a show comes out.

I accidentally did one for Mark Titus when he was on the show like two years ago.

And I think I scheduled it for three years in advance.

So, like, next year, some random day, I'm going to post a link to part of my take featuring Mark Titus.

I love that.

When he's not on the show.

I love that.

Yeah.

Cooper Flag, by the way, the ESPN broadcast had some difficulties.

They had, I think it was Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey, where they were doing a pan-up for your shoes.

And they're like, and there's Cooper Flag, very much not Cooper Flag.

Well, for a second, I thought you were wrong about that take.

Yeah.

It's like, wait, nope, Big Cat said white American.

Yeah.

But

I did see this.

Cooper Flag, and this obviously he has to be everything that he's scheduled to be, 1-1 overall.

He's supposed to be really, really good.

If everything goes well for him and he signs all of his extensions and everything, because I like to just be like, hey, this guy's going to be incredible.

He could make close to a billion dollars in the NBA by age 32.

How does that work out?

He has a $62 million rookie deal.

And then this is all off of just like the cap right now.

So the cap, if the cap goes up, it'll be more.

Then he'd get the 30% super max, which would be 359 million dollars And then he would get the 35% super max which would be 509 million dollars No state income tax either no state income tax So he that would be pretty cool.

That was cool.

Uh, what else did you like about the draft last night?

My favorite moment was Colin Murray Boyles.

Yeah, so he got drafted by the by the Raptors and he was just immediately like fuck

And then I don't know how you how you react to that if you're the Raptors, like the front office.

Do you like sit them down?

You're like, do you hate us?

Yeah.

Well,

at least they could maybe work through that.

Ace Bailey, like, he hates Utah.

That's the funniest possible outcome for Ace Bailey.

He was pissed.

Yeah, he's like, I'm not going to work out for any of these teams.

I want to go to a great city.

I'm going to have a great time in.

And then Utah is like, buddy, we got a seat for you right here.

Hank, there was some smoke.

Utah trying to trade for Jalen Brown.

Yeah, there's a lot of rumors going around.

There was some smoke.

You want Ace Bailey?

I mean, we got to get some cap, some cap room.

Yeah.

Ace Bailey said going to Utah, I can control what I can control.

They feel how they feel, but my team and me, me focusing on basketball and them doing what they're doing, so it happens.

That doesn't feel great.

Get ready to learn Swig, buddy.

Yeah, he's not.

I don't think he wants to be in Utah.

No, I mean...

No, he definitely does not.

What teams did he want to go to?

I think it was Wizards.

He was trying to engineer himself to go to the Wizards, maybe?

The Wizards and the Nets and maybe Philly?

No, it was the Wizards, Nets, and Pelicans.

Wizards, by the way, Pelicans.

Oh, boy.

Yep.

That was the worst trade ever.

They traded from 23 up to 13, and they gave away their unprotected first-round pick next year.

Actually, worse than that,

they have the Bucs pick as well.

Yeah.

The Pelicans.

They gave whichever one is better.

It's higher, yeah.

And if the Bucs trade Giannis, that could literally just be two shots at getting the one pick.

Can you do that in other sports?

I don't think the NFL has that ability, right?

To say, like, whichever pick is higher, you get that one.

I think you have to declare

where it's coming from.

But yeah, in the NBA, it's like there's so many things that you have to know about NBA transactions to become knowledgeable at all about what these teams are doing, like the different exemptions, different trade packages.

It's hard to keep up with, but I am a fan of any time a team gets fleeced.

So that was, yeah, it was a fleecing.

This one makes no sense.

Joe Dumar is now running the Pelicans.

I don't know what he was thinking.

Is he convinced himself the Pelicans are going to be good next year?

I don't know.

Because it's not even like he went up to a top five pick.

He went from 23 to 13.

Yeah.

The Hawks, great credit to the Hawks.

I mean, the Hawks might be good at some point.

I have a take about the NBA draft.

There's too many players in attendance.

Too many players in attendance.

You're setting yourself up for the bad moment where the camera's on you and you're so pissed off about everything.

I felt like there were 10 guys that were waiting to be drafted last night.

There were too many players in attendance.

There were way too many tears.

So many tears.

Everyone was crying.

I kind of liked the tears because they were mostly hat true.

I need at least a couple guys to not cry.

Ace Bailey cried because he was going to Utah.

Yeah.

And then also the fact that they do it two nights is insane.

Yeah.

The second round being its own standalone night is nuts.

Who was the one player that was there as a fan?

Like, I think he might have even bought a ticket.

He wasn't predicted to go in the first round.

Was it the Chinese player?

Yeah, Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, he's the highest drafted Chinese player since not Yao, but the guy after Yao that won the bucks.

Yeah, I think that's Yi Jingling.

Yeah, so he's the highest drafted Chinese player to go that high.

He's what, seven foot two?

Yeah.

He's a monster.

But I don't think that he was there expecting to get drafted last night.

He just showed up and he was like the little sass.

He was like, me?

Yeah.

Picked me.

He was mocked to be like the 35th pick.

I think Rasilla, our guy rascillo maybe had him going he was like he's one of the guys he loves he watches ball he watches ball uh

we also had uh oh

we should say shout out the two college basketball powerhouses of duke and rutgers rutgers four out of the first five picks were duke and rutgers players huge night for i feel like i that would drive me nuts if i was a rutgers fan it would i know that you can spin it and say, well, it's a great night for Rutgers.

Like, we, you know, they see that you can go Rutgers to the draft.

If you have two of the top five picks and you didn't make the NCAA tournament, that would devastate me.

Yeah, where'd they finish in the big last year?

10th.

Yeah, that's bad.

It's bad.

How is that possible?

They just, they didn't have anyone else.

Like, they didn't have anyone else.

Yeah, that would drive me nuts, too.

I liked.

I liked a few things last night.

Vijay Edgecombe, good pick by the Sixers, I think.

Guy loves to jam it.

I love the Wizards' pick.

I love Trey Johnson, best shooter in college college basketball.

Maybe him and Knipple.

But I feel like

I was thinking about the Wizards last night because I said that, I made that comment about how it sucks the life out of you to play for the Wizards.

They need to change their name so bad.

They got to go back to the Bullets.

I agree.

I think you go back to the Bullets, day one, culture change, different mentality.

I agree.

You're shooters again.

Why can't they just be the Bullets and it be a train instead of bullets?

That's great.

Or a blender.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You have no idea.

Or a whiskey.

Isn't there bullet whiskey or something?

Yes, there is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Bourbon.

Yeah.

Yeah, just keep it ambiguous.

Yeah, it's so much cooler if it's the bullets.

But yeah, I love Trey Johnson.

I think that was a great pick.

What did you guys think about...

So the Bulls picked Noah Essengay from France.

That's just our Wemby

bait for a couple years from now.

Very smart move.

What did you think, though?

He left his team who's currently in the playoffs.

Don't love that.

I feel like he's got to get ready for the play-in, though, this year.

He's going to be a play-in.

I mean, he's got to be a play-in guy.

So, with the Bulls.

What's the format like in France?

I don't know.

I think they're up to one.

It's a Euro League championship.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Oh, it's a Euro League championship?

I think so, yeah.

I don't love that.

Yeah.

It's a very French thing to do.

Yeah.

I don't really care.

If he's good, he's good.

If he's bad, he's bad.

I think Rosillo had him pretty high up, too.

Yeah, that's my entire take.

If he's good, he's good.

If he's bad, he's bad.

He's got our quote card.

And if he's good, that's good for you.

Yeah.

He was the steal of the draft according to my mock draft,

which was me just basically pulling up my phone right before the Bulls pick, seeing it and being like, steal the draft.

Yeah.

Fleeced.

Also, one other data point about Trey Johnson, the outfit that he wore.

Love it.

What was the shorts?

Oh.

He wore a suit.

Was it shorts or was it Caprice?

No, it was shorts.

It was full shorts.

It was like Angus Young.

He's like an ACDC guy in person.

Okay.

But it was a great look.

love the fashion at the draft last night um I also wrote down uh I'm pretty sure the Nets just picked like the same player over and over is that I they picked a bunch of uh

like wings that can't shoot yep so that that was smart and we had the clip of Josiah standing in the middle of the Nets war room looking for a high five and no one even thinking about giving him a high five it was great you can't have that as an owner you have to sorry governor as a governor you have to have an established, I'm going to you for a high five guy.

Either that or just be comfortable not getting a high five.

Just keep your hands in your pockets.

Yeah, be in the corner sitting down with like a cigar in your hand, looking like a governor, looking like an owner, and just look around the room and be like, good job, good job, good job, everybody.

Thumbs up.

But yeah, to be standing in the middle of the room, like looking for a friend, that doesn't speak highly of them.

I also wrote down that

I think the future of Duke Hate just rests in the Knipple family because seeing all the brothers lined up, I was like, when these guys, when we get to the third Knipple at Duke, it's going to be on.

Yeah, did you see the highlight package they put together?

It is going to be on.

Of all the Knipple, like the dads and the uncles playing basketball back in the day.

Yeah, the flying Knipples.

Yeah, they looked like a Duke basketball team.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

But yes, you're right.

Like, it's very valuable to have generations and like siblings that come one right after the other.

So you continue that same hate you had for the first guy for up to a decade.

It's wonderful.

Right.

So

they hold the future of the whole Duke hate in their hands.

I think they can do it.

What were you going to say, memes?

All their names start with K.

Oh, yeah.

And you said the third one would

start all the hate.

That was worth the laugh that I didn't deserve the laugh, but the laugh was warranted.

Yeah, they have five brothers.

When they do K, K, and then they get to the third K, then the hate's going to go crazy.

Yeah, it's going to be nuts.

Good job, me.

They also had Cedric Coward got drafted last night.

Yeah.

They called him Colin Coward on the broadcast.

That was fun.

That was very fun.

This is some high-level draft talk we're doing.

Yeah.

Hey, what do you got for us?

Nothing.

Zach, what do you got for us?

I just think no matter where you get drafted, it's an insane

position to be in to be like, oh, I don't want to go there.

Yeah.

Like, oh, I hate getting drafted in the NBA draft.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What a group that to be bummed out on draft night.

Oh, no.

Generational wealth for me and my family.

Yeah, I agree.

Also, Jay Billis might be addicted to saying 3 and D.

Yeah.

Addicted to it.

It was a problem.

That's very disingenuous of you.

I counted eight times that he said 3 and D within the span of 45 minutes.

Yeah.

Jay Billis.

What a great interview.

What a great interview.

Is he a better analyst than he is a person?

Oh,

that's a close one.

That is close.

I don't know.

I'll say toss-up.

We'll figure it out later.

Maybe we'll have him back on.

All right.

Any other draft stuff?

That's about it for me.

That's about it.

I pretty much emptied the clip.

Also, I don't like the way they do trades.

Yeah, they don't let you wear the hat.

Yeah, the way they do the trades, it doesn't make any sense at all because Adam Silver takes like 30 minutes to go up and tell us about a trade that we already knew about.

You got guys wearing the wrong hat on stage on draft night.

It was just, I don't know.

I felt like it was beneath the NBA to have that.

Yeah.

Oh, Cooper Flag did say he can't wait to face Jason Tatum.

Does he not know?

Yep.

He will.

But does he not know about this year?

Eventually.

Okay, okay.

But this year, no.

Cooper Flag also said that Jason Tatum was his favorite player growing up, which

I want to feel old.

Jason Tatum is like 27 years old.

That's crazy.

He's 19.

He's 18.

18.

18 he was i think he's one day younger than when lebron got drafted he reclassified when um it was malwaq right that wore the the rockets hat or no he was 10 days older yeah yeah yeah yeah that's gonna be a picture that you're gonna look back on like for the rest of his career yeah draft night and people are gonna be like what the fuck it's like first episode of sopranos where they had satrialis name something different yeah in the pilot uh the the other aunt viv

yeah from uh the first season of fresh prince right yeah we just switched it on him we switched Hank out on him.

They just switched it

three seasons in.

They did?

Yeah.

And that's fucked up.

You just pretend like everything's the same, yeah.

Good fact check.

You know for sure it's three seasons?

Two or three, yeah.

Oh.

I don't, it was after.

It was like they established and viv.

Zach is furious.

And then all of a sudden he just came into a new season.

He's like, this is your new Ann Viv.

Yeah.

What the hell?

I'm going to say three.

Okay.

Let's we'll talk some other stuff before before we do that.

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Nice work, Aaron.

That was fucking huge.

It's like they replaced Joe Biden with a new guy after one year.

Yeah.

yours were different.

His years were way different.

Years were so way different.

We replaced Hank after two episodes.

With the new Hank.

Okay, what else we got going on in the world?

Some baseball news.

Yeah.

We got a new, maybe potential face of the league.

Okay.

New pitcher.

Miserowski.

Oh, yeah, for the Brewers.

For the Brewers?

He faced off against Skeens.

He threw 19 pitches that were over 100 miles per hour.

Skeens threw one.

Ooh.

Not a great look for Skeens.

Old Man Skeens.

Old Man Skeens, yeah.

Okay, that was good.

That's it.

I like that update.

We should talk about this fucking good update.

That's a name that we should know, though.

Oh, I got a baseball trivia thing that I just saw randomly.

I think it's a week old, but it's pretty cool.

Did you know that the Tampa Bay Rays, it was last week, they finally reached the same amount of intentional walks as Barry Bonds.

That's crazy.

I know we've been tracking that.

Yeah.

That is insane to think about.

Barry Bond's also getting a statue in San Francisco, which he deserves.

How big's the head going to be?

Ah, it's got to be enormous.

It should just be his head.

It should be like

the City Field apple.

Yes.

Every time they hit a home run, he comes out.

Yeah.

Oh, that would be awesome of just a big Balco bottle.

That would rock.

Pops up and down.

Yeah.

I've got Colorado Rockies update.

Oh, yeah.

I saw this.

So the Colorado, we've given a lot of shit to their owner, Dick Montfort.

Piece of shit.

But it sounds like maybe he's been listening to us.

Okay.

And he's determined to turn the team around, make good decisions, take some matters out of his own hands.

And he promoted his oldest son to be chief operating officer.

That guy will be good at it, right?

Yeah, so that guy's going to be good.

Yeah, so

they've listened to you.

They're not content to mire away in the slums of mediocrity.

They're going to fix it out by just having his son do all the things he was going to do.

We've heard you.

We're disappointed as well.

And now my son, my fail son, is going to be running the show.

We're the worst team in Major League Baseball history.

I know what can cure this.

Big dose of nepotism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So fuck the Monforts.

Fuck Dick Monfort.

They suck.

I had, oh, Deontay Johnson, this was just a funny quote.

He said that he did ask out of that game.

Remember that game?

Yeah.

Where he didn't go back in because he was ice cold.

Yep.

It was 41 degrees.

Yep.

And now he plays in Cleveland.

He had the weirdest career of anybody.

Maybe it's still going.

Still going.

Without a doubt, I think the weirdest season last year.

Yes, that was a very weird season i had all right so the last thing i had before we can get to our mount rush more and an awesome interview with yans and uh whitney we they told some very very funny stories i had an embraced debate that uh our good friend tom fornelli texted me um i think he found this online but

do you think tiger woods career would be the same if he was named Panther Irons

Panther Irons.

I think he would have gotten caught for the sex stuff way earlier.

I do too.

If it was Panther Irons.

That's a sex pest name.

Yes, it is.

What do you think, Zach?

Yeah, I don't think he has the same career.

Yeah.

No.

But what if he gets caught for it early on and then he's like, hey, you got me, guys?

Yeah, I'm a sexual deviant.

I'm going to let my freak flag fly and I'm just going to go and keep being awesome at golf.

I think that there's a chance that Panther Irons, that almost sounds so over the top that it could come around the other side and be a Mormon guy's name.

True.

Right?

Like, he might be abstinent.

Stay on the sex deviant thing.

What if he just, so if Tiger Woods gets outed, or sorry, if Panther Irons gets outed as a sex deviant very early in his career, is there a chance Panther Irons just is like, now that everyone knows, I'm just going to lean into just being a guy who sucks and fucks all the time, and I'm not going to try to cosplay as a Navy SEAL and then his back doesn't get hurt?

There is a chance, yeah, for sure.

This is a big time sliding doors moment.

I think if he's Panther Irons, I still think he gets one.

This is the best.

I think he gets one.

He gets one major.

I think he gets a couple.

He doesn't get the amount.

Not the Panther Slam.

No.

No.

Panther Irons, though.

That's pretty good.

The Panther fist bump.

What if his name was Cheetah Driver?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

That's Cheetah Slam.

The Cheetah Slam would for sure happen.

Lion Putter.

Lion Putter.

lion putter

yeah i think he might be better actually oh

um

i saw oh i i did see i know we talked about it on wednesday's show but taylor swift doing a full like private concert at tu was crazy insane yeah yep and we would have probably been pft probably would have been playing guitar with him we would have done free bird yeah

i just wish we had had the opportunity to just be told no you're not allowed yeah i think it would have been so funny they're like yeah here's a ticket in the very back row yeah no access anywhere else yeah please don't look at the stage i think they were like listen we can't bring the pmt guys around she's going to fall in love with max yeah you can't have that strong italian boy the philly connection that's facts that's facts i've got a soccer update talk

this would be interesting uh mbappe is suing psg still 19 paris saint germain yeah him actually mbappe was probably cooper flagg's favorite soccer player growing up that's true uh so mbape is like suing them, I think, for $60 million

in unpaid wages.

And he also claims that PSG lofted him.

Do you know what lofting means?

No.

So it's a word.

I'm just trying to get the ball higher.

Yeah, there you go.

It's a word that's used in France to describe a practice.

Way to go, Hank.

That involves isolating or leaving a player out from the main squad for sporting, administrative, or disciplinary reasons.

Sounds like his teammates.

That's a bad hang.

His teammates just ditched him.

Wait, is it is lofting just as a doghouse yeah he was in the doghouse but also from his teammates so it sounds like hank might be right he might be a bad hang he might he he might be suing psg for being a loser yeah

wait this is so lofting so you can do that just ice him out i would have made so much money in middle school yeah just getting getting iced out and just be like i'm suing you for not talking to me yeah that that rules yeah

lofting that was talking soccer.

You don't like it, Hank?

It's crazy to sue for being.

Being like bullied.

Yeah.

Like, if I were him, I would not, I would not want to make that public record.

No, yeah.

You're basically like, I'm a loser and no one likes me.

I'm suing for it.

But that also would be such a loser move to do.

That is.

He's confirmed.

His lawsuit actually should be thrown out immediately because if you sue for lofting, you're actually immediately saying, this is why I got lofted.

Yes.

Because I'm a guy who sues for lofting.

Exhibit A is the lawsuit.

Correct.

Yeah, that's the test.

So, yeah,

he failed it.

Do you have anything, Zach, Sports World?

Anything on your mind?

I got nothing that comes to mind.

Great second, I apologize for that.

No, no, that's fine.

You don't have to apologize.

Why would you apologize?

Fair.

Yeah, okay.

Good talk there.

Oh, Kwai also

ran a simulated NBA Finals run, which I feel like is just going to get him hurt.

What is that?

He kept on training like he was still in the the playoffs all the way through the NBA Finals.

So he could see if his body could hold up.

Got it.

I feel like that was so stupid.

He was playing games on one night?

He must have been playing games or simulating the physical toll of that full NBA Finals run.

Was it on 2K or in real life?

I don't know, but

that doesn't seem like a good idea for a guy who gets hurt all the time.

No, it doesn't at all.

Also, we have, it's like the first...

The first leaf falls, and it's like the sign of falls here.

The masters commercial is a sign of spring.

We have the first sign of summer and it's Ben Simmons in a wide open gym hitting threes.

He looked good.

He looked so good.

He looked good.

He hit like four in a row.

That literally means summer is here.

I think he's fixed.

Yeah.

I saw somebody say if you get the hat trick of Ben Simmons shooting in a gym with nobody guarding him,

Zion working out.

Yep.

And then Luca working out.

Yep.

All on Instagram on the same day.

I don't even think you need Luca working out.

I think you Luca just having a picture.

He doesn't look fat.

Or even just

a skinny picture of Luca.

a report like yeah luca donchic has been in the gym yeah one one skinny picture of luca and all those other those other two it's yeah yeah ben simmons it is like clockwork yeah he does this all the time and we fall for it yeah every well i'm not falling for it i'm just more like hey nice summer's here i'm falling for it yeah he's gonna be good max it is i am watching it again right now and i am kind of falling for it No, you're not.

No, I dude, he I've um this video is 45 seconds in.

He has not missed a shot.

Would you you would want him on the wizards?

Fixed.

He's fixed.

Would I want him on the Wizards?

I think that culture fit would be perfect for Ben Simmons, actually.

I'd want him on the Bulls.

It would be interesting to talk about it and make fun of him.

I would want him on the Wizards for like a week.

He hasn't been interesting in forever.

No, but I would make fun of him.

Bear?

Like, no one even...

Like, he didn't.

He wasn't talking about it.

We were making fun of him right now.

I guess.

I would want him on the Wizards just for practice.

If this works in practice.

Like, if if we had, there's just nothing to talk about, so we got to talk about Ben Simmons.

Like, no Simmons sharpened, dude.

I know, but that's just what I'm saying.

Like, don't give Ben Simmons the credit of being notable.

Ben Simmons, bad guy.

Bad guy.

All right.

Well, let's get to our Mount Rushmore.

We have Mount Rushmore of guys We'd Like to Punch in the Face.

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It's gonna be

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Yeah, no, I think that it's gonna be a huge night in sports when Caitlin Clark gets drafted.

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And now, here's Mount Rushmore.

Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

We're doing the Mount Rushmore of guys you want to punch in the face.

Standings, Hank and PFD won the first one.

Nice one.

Okay.

Memes and Max second.

Zach and I in third.

We got to get better, Zach.

It's time to rally.

It's time to rally.

I also just want to say Lisa Ann.

Rochelle Ryan.

I apologize you weren't seen by one Max Delente who hates MILFs.

We're going to move on.

But those women...

Those women are, well, they're not actually mothers.

They play mothers, but they're not actually mothers.

But they play mothers.

So we feel

they should be seen.

And

we want them to be seen.

The ruling was the ruling.

Zach, were you expecting first place?

Were you confident?

No, we fell off at the end.

Magic was a bad pick.

You put in our football huge mess.

Yeah.

You can never expect things, but I feel like we came with a strong...

Strong Mount Rushmore, but as far as the MILF debacle, I just want to let me know that you guys have no respect for MILFs.

Yeah,

thank you.

Thank you.

It's a long season.

We whiffed at the end.

We petered out.

We came out strong, then we petered out.

Mils kind of fucked us up.

We were just thinking about Milf the whole time.

I think we did a fist bound in my office when we're like Milfs.

Yeah, there was.

Okay.

All right.

Who's up first?

We're up first.

I'm in the pilot seat today.

Yep, I'm co-pilot.

1-1.

We're going to go with guy who cuts you in line.

Okay.

Line cutters.

Good pick.

Nothing will get the rage, your blood boiling quicker than standing in line, which you already don't want to be doing, and then some asshole just takes it upon themselves to just cut you.

Or, like, clearly they weren't there, and they go stand up with one of their friends, and there's in front of you.

Does anybody hear a speak up guy when you see a line cutter?

I'm more of like a try and get the person behind me to speak up.

Or like, if someone else says something, it's like, can you believe this?

I know.

That's a good idea.

I'll either try to get somebody else to speak up or I'll make like a very sarcastic, loud comment like I'm talking to somebody else yeah you know yeah and then hope that they get the idea they usually stay in the line but i hope that they feel worse about it it's uh it's almost worse i feel like i i haven't had a line cutter in a long time i feel like i feel like maybe this is gonna you know i'm not gonna say it i think there's women that do it a lot more and they think they can just get away with it

I feel like I've been cut by women more and it's just like they know that like nothing's gonna happen

nothing should happen but

it's hypothetical they should get punched in the face.

You're punching a woman.

Line.

No, hypothetical.

Guys who want to punch in the face.

Yes, guys who want to punch in the face.

I hold the door for a woman.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll let them in first.

Yeah.

They don't have to cut around me.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Good pick.

Thank you.

Great pick.

Great pick.

Thank you.

All right.

Memes.

Memes, Max?

We were second?

No, we were second last time.

Last time.

Oh, so you guys weren't first?

No, we were second.

We're second.

You're second.

You're second.

We're third.

All right, Zach, time for us to go.

What should we do?

Do you think we go 1-1?

1-3?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know how this is going to play because people are going to be like, oh, like, well, he's not alive anymore.

But yeah, let's do it.

We would love to punch Hitler in the face.

We would fucking love to punch Hitler in the face.

He probably deserved, he's probably a guy who, if he got punched in the face, like, got a good beating when he was like

15 years old.

Maybe he would have just not been a dick.

I would rather punch Hitler's art teacher in the face.

That too.

Give him a better grade.

Yeah.

The world will be a better place.

I'd like to punch Hitler in the face.

I'd like to shoot him in the face.

Zach, you would also like to punch him in the face.

I second that.

Hitler should have got a punch in his face for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Could have saved a lot of people.

He also didn't kill Hitler, though.

Yeah, that's true.

All right.

1-1 is going to be people.

1-3.

Hour 1-1-1-3.

People who are rude to service workers.

Oh, we had it on the list.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Good pick.

And then follow that up.

Recurring guest,

Martin Shkrelly.

Oh, yeah, we had him too.

Good warrior pick.

Good pick.

Good pick.

We also had a pick.

We also had

I love how we could pick anybody in the world and all of us had Martin Skrelly.

Oh, yeah.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

Is he on site?

Like if we as a podcast run into Martin Skrelly.

I know that we can like be sued or whatever.

We can go to jail.

I think we have to punch him.

Yeah.

All right, Zach, I'm going to go with 10 here.

I think this is a good one.

You like that one?

10 is strong.

Yeah, strong.

We're going to go with adult autograph seekers that cut in front of children.

They need to be punched in the face, like badly.

Those are the type of guys that, and they probably would sue you because they feel like those types of people.

That's their dream.

Yeah, they'd be like, oh, I'm suing.

Don't touch me.

Don't touch me.

Yeah, business plan number one is to try to get like Joe Montana to autograph a football for him.

Yep.

Backup business plan is get punched in the face by somebody who has money.

Yep.

Agreed.

Okay.

And if it's Joe Montana, that's actually the best case scenario.

Absolutely.

Okay, you guys are up.

We're up.

Kind of a recurring guest, not technically officially.

I know who this is.

Well, yeah, it's pretty.

There's only a few people that fit in that category.

Would be fun.

Darren Revelle.

Yep.

Does he fit into that same category?

He would also, yeah, sue.

Yeah.

He would sue for sure.

Uh-huh.

You'd love it.

Absolutely, Sue.

Pifty tried to fight him in Rough and Rowdy, didn't you?

Yeah, that's true.

I did.

I'm still anytime, anywhere with Darren Ravel.

But he wanted a million dollars guaranteed.

Yeah.

And then our next pick, we're going to go with the Limu Emu.

Yeah, fuck that Limu Emu.

I like that.

The Emu sucks.

Limu Emu does suck.

Most annoying commercial of all time.

It comes on, you're like, I wish this fucking emu was in my living room.

I could just punch it in the face.

Doug needs to stand up for himself.

Doug gets dragged.

Yeah.

He does.

Okay.

Where do you want to go here, Zach?

I think going with that last one, or the second last one I actually sent you, which is a personal one, but I think would play for this room.

I think we'd all like to do that.

I think we can go there.

All right, yeah.

I wouldn't mind punching John Skipper in the face.

He did some shit to us.

Kind of just skirted away from that.

It wouldn't be the first bloody nose you ever got.

That's facts.

That's facts.

That's facts.

So, yeah, that's our third pick.

It's a very respectable pick.

And

I hope you get the chance one day.

Yeah.

For our third pick, we are going to go with people who drive on the median in traffic.

Okay.

Good pick.

Okay.

Good pick.

Not the shoulder, the median.

So when you see Francis, do you like go up and thank him for the service?

Yes.

Shoulder.

No, he said median.

Yeah, he said median.

I mean, this is a semantics game, but okay.

Okay, I'll let you guys out of shoulder.

Shoulder.

But it's not up to me.

It's up to everybody else.

I mean, I think, yeah, you said median, but yeah, I mean, I would say that.

I would give it to you we meant shoulder, but that, but that's fine.

I would give it to you if I could, but it's up to everybody.

So it's not up to me.

I'm like Ron Berger.

It was written out as median in traffic.

Oh, okay.

Who wrote it?

So it's the median?

You wrote me the median.

I wrote it.

I wrote it.

Is it median the shoulder?

You wrote me.

The median is.

The median is like the middle of the middle.

The middle.

Median.

Middle.

The shoulder is what everyone in this room knew what we were talking about.

No, I thought me.

We can do the semantics routine.

I was ready to give it to you, but then when Meme says it's written as median, you guys meant median.

I can't help that.

You guys don't know words.

It even starts.

This is how this season of Mountain Rushmore is going to go.

This is how we're going to do it.

Who's vetoing?

How did the vetoing vote start?

You were also the first person that brought up that MILFs are moms.

I'm just

the one who

thought it.

MILFs are moms.

I just think that I would expect Max to know the word that starts with the median.

Decide this for us.

What does the median of a road mean?

That just is not the question.

Oh, you asked the question.

That's just not.

Ask the question.

If you were to say that you don't like people that drive in the median, would you assume that

they misspoke and they were talking about people who drive on the shoulder?

Talking the mic.

In traffic?

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

All right.

Well, there's the ruling.

All right.

We're coming down to dinner in a minute.

We're just wrapping up.

That was good.

Brian Whitney.

You'll hear him in a second.

All right.

Last pick.

Someone who FaceTimes or talks on speakerphone on the train.

Okay, good one.

It's bad.

Good one.

All right.

I think our last pick, I'll tell a story behind Zach.

This is where I think Zach and I hopefully will be strong as a team because

I'm old.

He's a little younger.

And what was the first, I think the first person I said to you you was, do you remember what I said?

I was like, who is that YouTuber?

Doherty.

Yeah.

So Jack Doherty's our pet.

That guy needs to get punched so fucking bad.

I don't really consume his work.

I just see him on Twitter and I hate him.

Yeah.

There's no good cartoon.

Yeah.

He's terrible.

Yeah.

And he like goes around with his bodyguards, like, like fucking with people.

And then his bodyguards step in for him.

He needs to be punched in the face.

We had it on the list.

Yeah.

We had it.

Like, he's, as far as like internet people go, he, he's one-one.

Yeah.

And I said that, I said it it to Zach, and I was just like, yeah, who's that YouTuber?

He instantly's like, Jack Doherty.

That guy's bodyguards, they do a bad service for bodyguards.

Yeah.

You should not work for him as a bodyguard.

Yeah.

Our last pick, we're going to go kind of similar to Ravel, just to be fun to hear the sound and see the reaction, although you probably get sued as well.

Elon Musk.

Ooh,

that'd be a good punch.

It'd be fun.

Just the sound.

And Hank has been anti-Elon since like 2007.

I didn't know you guys were lib cocks in 2017.

That's when he was a lib.

Is that true?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've never had too strong an opinion on Elon.

Yeah.

No, you caught him a dork a few times.

You just said he was the fourth most person you would.

It would be fun to punch him.

Yeah, he's on your Mountain Rush wherever you want to punch him.

All right, what did we miss?

It'd be fun to punch him.

Violence.

Well, I guess I should have tried.

It was contentious.

It was already too contentious, so it just would have gotten more contentious.

But what if I said Casey Anthony?

That would have been an interesting one.

We did have some bad people unless we had like Osama, Bin Laden,

Flow from Progressive.

Yeah, hater.

When you said the Ego Demo, I thought.

Flow from Progressive.

Wait, was Flow the ones?

No, that's the ATT girl.

Yeah, no.

No, no.

You're talking about Lily.

My face.

Lily from ATT.

Nothing worse than her.

So when we did this list, Hank very helpfully sends out a notes document.

Definition of just that we can both.

Just getting a snowball going.

So Hank sent out the notes document, and

it's labeled Guys You Want to Beat Up, and it only had three people on it.

And it had three people on it for probably about two hours because I was uploading my ideas to it.

And all Hank had was Hitler, school principal, and Darth Vader.

I love it.

On the

three.

School principal, which I think that's a good pick.

Just get it going.

Yeah, principal.

Yeah.

Everyone hates it.

Who likes their school principal?

Listen, we got ours going in Zach's couple of his first ones were

guy who talks too loud at movies.

That was a good one.

Guys who drive slingshots.

Oh, yeah.

I don't like the slingshots.

And then Joe Biden and Bill Clinton.

Yeah, Bill Clinton probably should get punched.

Yeah, he should.

Yeah, yeah.

He should.

There's always one guy that shows up in training camp on the slingshot for NFL season.

It's like, what are you doing, man?

Also, Zach, my favorite one that I think was pretty niche, you want to say it?

I assume that's a Call of Duty thing.

Oh, yeah, guys who use Aimbot.

Fuck all those guys.

I'll say it.

That's a good pick.

He said it to me, and I was like, I don't know what this is, but I'm putting it on the honorable mentions.

I don't stand on a lot, but I'll stand on that.

Yeah.

We had honorable mentions Kanye.

We had Kanye as well.

Okay, yeah, we had Kanye on there.

Jaden Smith.

Yep.

Aaron Boone.

Okay.

I think everybody, even Yankees fans, would put him on that list.

Keith Olberman.

Okay.

Yep.

Good one.

Jackson Mahomes.

Okay.

James Corden.

Yeah.

MGK.

Carson Wentz.

I kind of like MGK.

I like him too.

Yeah.

But he'd be fun to punch.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Originally, there was one point it was guys, like, I think the wording was guys you want to beat up.

So I had Khabib on there just because, like, if you could beat him up, it'd be awesome to say you could beat up Khabib, but I don't necessarily want to punch him in the face.

Yeah, we have

we so some of the other guys that we had, we had Goodell,

Sandust,

Goodell's a good one, yeah, Osama bin Laden, Putin, King Joffrey, love to punch him.

Uh, I think had Draco Malfoy, yeah, we had uh, let's see, oh, Blooper,

love to Blooper,

great one, uh, Brandon Walker, Goodell's a big mess, um, Brandon Walker, we go.

Oh,

why are we?

Why are we squabbling?

Uh, Jose Conseco, I put on the list, but Billy already did that for us.

Took care of it, yeah.

Um, also, Hardo bicyclists,

like the guys who like don't follow the rule, like they're dressed like Lance Armstrong, they don't follow the stop sign rules, they don't follow, like, traffic light, and then they get mad at you.

Yeah, they yell at you as they're going through the intersection, yeah.

And those guys, I, I, I mean, I remember uh, Sean Avery used to do videos in New York City where he would just, just, like, get in fights with every bicyclist who would put their bike in the middle of the sidewalk, and I just loved those videos.

You know what I realized, though?

A lot of that, it's we're used to seeing that from like the car's point of view.

Yeah.

But when bicyclists put videos out of pedestrians walking into the bike lane, I feel the same way about pedestrians as I do about bicyclists when I'm in a car.

Yeah.

I'm like, those fucking idiots.

Yeah, that's a fact.

That's absolutely a fact.

What else?

Any others?

We had, well, me and Max's brains weren't really working, so I threw out Stephen Hawking.

Oh.

That's a great pick.

I like that.

That's a great

talk about people having cheated.

You'd probably kill that.

You'd have probably killed Stephen Hawking.

Phenomenal pick.

People forget that Stephen Hawking left his wife when he was a vegetable.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's like a huge piece of picture.

He cheated on his wife as he was a vegetable.

He was a sexual deviant.

And you could just tee off on him.

He also died seven years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, they had Hitler.

Yeah.

Remember that

didn't Jerry Sandusky?

I didn't know he was.

Jeffrey Epstein built a special submarine for Stephen Hawking.

Did he?

Yeah.

No, wait.

Jeffrey Epstein did?

Yeah, they were boys.

Oh, well.

So we have Jeffrey Epstein on there.

Jeffrey Epstein's probably cool.

What do you guys think about Zuckerberg?

Punch him, too.

Yeah, it'd be kind of fun.

I actually thought about the dude that played Zuckerberg in the movie.

Like, he's a good actor.

He's a good actor, but like, not Michael Sarah.

Eisenberg.

Eisenberg.

Yeah.

Great actor.

No personal beef with him.

I think he's good.

He's a great actor.

I just like he's got a punchable face.

Yeah.

Oh, we had Tony Robinson.

And I think it's more just probably the characters he plays, too.

But he'd have to be doing it in the middle of a, ooh, I don't know, Jib Boom.

Because I don't really hate him otherwise.

Also, the guy who replaced Adam Richmond on Man vs.

Food.

Oh, yeah.

That came up on the TV yesterday.

I had no idea that happened.

He hasn't stopped talking about it.

That's right.

Literally, since it came up, he's been talking about how he hates the.

Yeah, no, if you do that man versus food and you and you get not Richmond,

you're pissed off.

It would be brutal.

And it was like one of those marathons

and we were like working and it just kept coming on.

And he was getting angrier and angrier.

Like the next day at breakfast, he would be like, how about that fucking guy who thinks he could be at Richmond?

I think I would like to punch Howie Mandel in the face, too.

Yeah.

No real reason.

Yeah.

Bluntman's godfather.

Yeah, no real reason.

Well, I mean, listen, we're just throwing these out there.

Did you think about maybe putting Mr.

Bingbong on there?

Not Jerry O'Connell.

But Mr.

Bingbong, who broke your ear to the business.

Yeah, I would have loved to stand up and fucking punch him in the face with one moment.

That would have been fantastic.

Yeah, what about co-workers?

Oh, yeah, Hank had his or memes had his boss.

Nikki Smokes.

You're his boss.

No, I'm his boss.

You're his boss.

Memes had his boss.

I might promote you to his brain.

Hank would have played on the graphic.

Stephen Shea from time to time.

Yeah,

I don't think he'd get that upset.

No, he'd be like, what did I do?

Cool punch, buddy.

What did I do to I did something?

Yeah.

Do you guys have any other co-workers?

Sometimes Hank, but yeah.

Usually not.

Shane, memes had memes had Shane.

Oh, yeah.

I just wanted to put Shane in there.

Memes has all of us on his

correct.

Well, he's just not saying it.

No, no.

I like you guys.

I like you guys.

We've had arguments before.

You've had your fists bald.

You were the Arthur memes.

The Jets lost to the Patriots, and you came in with a gun.

Other than Zach, you wanted to punch every single one of us.

Jack McCarthy, for sure.

For sure.

I like Jack.

Oh, Nicki Smokes.

We had that on.

Yeah,

I just said him.

I was thinking of man versus food guy.

Guy who gives an unsolicited lock, like, just out of nowhere.

Like, hands you an envelope.

Yeah.

It says Trick School.

When it hits, it's okay, but when it loses,

it's very mean.

What else do we have, Zach?

Do you have any others?

Oh, fantasy football guy when you're rooting for your bats.

Yeah.

Yep.

Oh, we had.

That's also like become player prop guy, too.

Yeah.

Like when Jerry has like a 10-leg parlay and he's going crazy, and you're like, my team's playing.

We had the dynamic duo, Deshaun Watson, Justin Tucker.

Yep, that's good.

Jim Kramer, the mad money guy.

Yeah.

That guy sucks.

Yeah.

Piers Morgan.

I like Piers.

Piers Morgan was a good pick.

Yeah.

Ray Rice.

Ray Rice.

Yep.

It's like for all women.

Yep.

You're taking the stairs, bitch.

Yeah.

Boom.

Any others, Zach?

The guys who sell crypto courses on Instagram.

Ooh, yeah.

Okay, yeah.

It sounds personal.

That sounds like you've gotten God.

Have you dabbled?

No, no, not at all.

Was there ever a time you were thinking about dabbling?

Yeah, I'm not that good at math.

Okay.

No.

All right.

Yeah, Zach's

initial spellings were so bad.

He is like 1-1 bad speller.

He might be worse than you.

We were brainstorming.

It wasn't.

That's a hard title to have.

I don't spell too well, but I think there's a lot of people out there who aren't the best at spelling.

He spelled Darren Revelle, D-A-R-I-N-R-I-V-E-L.

Darren Rivell.

He spelled Joel and Bede, I-M-B-E-E-D.

Yeah.

Roger.

I have teen phonetic spelling.

Like,

you will never hear a peep from me.

Do you want to spell the sounds?

Goodell is phonetic.

How do you guys think he spelled Goodell?

G-U-D-A-L.

Nope, you're wrong.

G-A-D-E-L.

Okay, Goodell.

Yeah.

I like that.

All right.

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Okay, we now welcome on two very, very, very,

very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very special guests because they're our best friends.

It is Keith Yandel, Ryan Whitney from the Spit and Chiclets podcast, our co-workers.

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we just want to have you guys on to hang out.

Sure.

First question:

is it can or is it will will Connor McDavid ever win the big one?

Can Conor McDavid win the big one?

Should he?

Should he win the big one?

Can he win the big one?

Yes, he can.

Can he win the big one?

There's no such thing as should in sports.

Can he win the big one?

Yes.

Winner, that was a question for Jance.

Okay.

What do you think?

I think yes.

Not in Edmonton.

Oh, okay.

I like that.

That's a good take.

Yeah, that take is interesting to me because everyone's like, they can't win it.

They can't win it.

Like, they've been to the finals two years in a row, game seven, game six against

one of the best teams.

I mean, I don't know, 97 Red Wings.

Like, I'm talking like, who's going to beat Florida?

They're better.

The past two years, they've been better than everyone, but one team.

So to think that Edmonton needs to completely change everything is crazy to me.

Maybe not everything.

Maybe he just needs to go somewhere else.

Maybe he needs to go to Florida.

Or, oh, Ring Chase.

Is he in the ring?

Yeah.

Morel said he's going to Tampa.

I don't need him in Tampa.

All right, so

how are you feeling after?

Because, I mean, we joke, but he can't win the big one as of right now.

He's still young.

How old is he?

28.

Okay, he is still young.

He's got a lot of time.

He's got to win the big one.

Yeah, he's got a lot of time.

That was just,

that was worse than last year because

everyone was like, all right, it was the whole, I came on and talked about Crosby beating the Wings, Gretzky beating the Islanders.

It just made, it was all lining up to be exactly as the other two legends had done it.

And it wasn't even close.

I mean, Florida,

listen, like, they got, Kachuk got injured.

So then they had all that money.

That's how they got Jones.

That's how they got Marshawn.

So that works out perfect.

And then it turns out at the end of the series, Edmonton's being investigated by the league for abusing the LTIR rule, which is Evander Kane was out.

Apparently, he could have come back sooner than he did.

Oh, no.

Well,

Matthew was actually hurt.

Like, he shouldn't have even probably been playing the first series.

Yeah, no, for sure.

But Kane was hurt.

Yeah, no.

I'm not dogging the Panthers.

Are you saying the Oilers cheated and still didn't win?

Apparently, according to the league, even though everyone's been doing this for, I don't know, five, six, seven years.

Longer than that, yeah.

And now all of a sudden, like, you know, kick a man when he's down.

Edmonton's being looked at as possibly.

I don't know.

I don't know what the punishment would be, a fine or a draft pick or something.

I don't know if anything's come out but

i don't picture this guy retiring without a stanley cup maybe it's not in edmonton i don't know but edmonton's not nearly as like lost or or in that bad of a spot the way people make them sound to be

is it is it malpractice on the gm for the goalie situation that yeah that's a that's a problem after i was like

i i i said on chicklets like they don't have a goalie that you can win the stanley cup with now once again they were one game a 2-1 game away from winning the cup with them and then a final strip again but

if your starting goalie is getting pulled and losing his job in back-to-back playoffs i don't think you have a stanley cup goalie no

i mean yeah

he's gonna he's gonna turn it on he's gonna start shutting the door on them i think to his point with the goalie situation everything like it shows how good connor is what he's done for that team bringing them to back-to-back finals.

That's a good spot.

I think he is the main.

Obviously, he's got Leon, too, as Batman Robin, but he is so fucking elite.

It's insane.

But we were talking the other day: how many goalies in the NHL would you trust right now to beat Bob in a seven-game series?

We like brought up Vasilevsky and he beat him this year in five.

Probably zero.

And he wasn't even at his top at like what he was.

Bob shaved his head.

Maybe

who's the blues guy?

Bennington.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, he's

been in big games.

That's a good one, but there's no person in hockey choosing him over Bob.

No.

Bob, like I just met, he shaved his head like two days after the cup.

And at the press conference said, yeah, new haircut, new year.

I'm starting to get prepared.

Yeah, no time.

As the Panthers were like trashing the Oilers and celebrating their dicks off, Bob even said, He's like, Yeah, I don't really do this.

Like, I'm more just appreciative of the moment.

And I'm ready for the next season.

He's a psycho.

Now, here's the problem

for the rest of the league.

Like

it's, it's been discussed the past two years, but for all those years Florida was bad.

It was a sleeping giant because it was like at some point,

when they get the right ownership and they get a good team, every single guy is going to want to go there.

And it's completely happened now.

This sounds like an NBA problem.

It's the late 1990s.

It's a state tax problem.

So Panthers fans get mad at this too.

But Biz and I have been, Biz has been on it more than anyone.

Biz counting everyone.

There needs to be something done because.

They got Biz to learn tax law.

Yeah,

exactly.

No, he's good with money law.

That's something right up his alley.

But it's not like the Panthers are the only team in the league that has that, right?

No, no, it's Vegas.

You got it.

Nashville.

Nashville, yeah.

Dallas, Tampa, Florida.

Tampa, Florida are the only two in the Eastern Conference.

Is Utah?

Is Utah low?

I don't know if Utah is a no-state tax state.

Is Washington?

No, Washington.

I think there is it.

No, I don't think so.

But

the cap being what it was, right?

Maybe it wasn't that big of a deal.

And this is not taking away from the cups.

It really isn't.

But as the cap goes up and up, and we're talking like in five years, the cap could be $150 million a year.

Dude, you're talking about saving $20 million.

I got a question.

No state income tax in Washington.

Oh, wow.

Okay, so Seattle.

Seattle.

I got a question.

Why doesn't...

Because it's not warm and nice all year, though.

That's true.

Why doesn't Canada just make a law that no hockey players ever have to pay any taxes?

That's a great question.

If I were running for Prime Minister Canada, I'd be like, first thing I do, not a single NHL player pays a single cent of tax.

Let's fucking win some cups.

I think.

Canada is like, I think all those taxes are similar to like New York.

They're not.

Yeah, they've got to get rid of them.

So, Canada, to get a cup again, forget going, forget not wanting to be a part of the media circus.

Like, you're then mentioning, like, oh, you're going to save money too?

It's like, who's going to sign in Canada?

Free room and board, too.

Throw it all in.

The government will pay the players.

So, if the cap goes up, it's going to become something where this is a legit issue.

Okay.

In my opinion.

Bettman stuffed Biz in a locker, saying no.

He did.

What about, though, when we had Biz on, we had questions from a first grader, and one of the first graders asked, Should Connor McDavid just try to score more?

Because did he only have one goal in the Stanley Cup final?

Yeah, he was.

Yeah, I mean, it's Florida.

It's Florida, man.

They're so good.

Do you think he should try to score more?

I think he's trying his hardest.

I think you got to

shoot more maybe.

Should he listen to the guys sitting in the nosebleeds who say, shoot the puck every single time across the street?

No, never listen to those guys.

No, never.

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Wit, I really, I enjoyed your reaction to the loss.

I don't want to admit it because I like you, but in my like, you know, sicko, I want to see Wit fail, back of my brain,

I enjoyed this tweet from you.

You said, I'm i'm quietly singing pink pony club and eating apple pie with vanilla ice cream trying not to cry for me that was mid-game that was mid-game sex oh that was during the game and we would have gone to game seven

so that's the other thing now can i give a little credit i i bought that was i bought a plane ticket out there

you were going to i bought a plane ticket out there and i really wanted to go but i couldn't i thought you were getting a plane well because there wasn't a game because there wasn't a game yeah i know now dan I didn't think it would happen, but he had lined up a jet.

I was flying to Chicago.

We were jetting there.

We were going.

All the chicklets guys, Max was coming.

Here's the thing.

I wasn't.

They would have lost that game.

Yeah.

And it would have been.

And I would have been so mad at you.

So mad at you.

You would have bet what the playing cost.

Everything on Edmonton.

Yeah.

Because I would have been like, I have to make the biggest bet of my life on Edmonton.

Well, actually, you did save me money.

What happened over the course of like the next two days after the cup?

How deep was the hole you ran?

You didn't scream for like a week.

It was brutal.

Yeah, I'm done.

It's season ended.

I'm done.

But I wasn't even

I was more depressed, not about the loss, but about like, I don't think Florida's going anywhere.

Like, realistically, they could play again.

Yeah.

And I don't know.

I don't how

if they get Marshawn and Bennett back, like, I think if they lose Ekblad, I still think they'll be fine.

If Marshawn and Bennett come back, they're probably going to win two more.

I heard that Marshawn was going to the Leafs.

What?

I saw Marshawn going to the Leafs made.

That's Biz.

Well, Biz said that.

Yeah.

Oh, I saw a really convincing

biz tweeted out a text message.

So he edited it.

So you couldn't see the name.

It said, Marshawn to Toronto, four years, $9 million a year.

It's done.

And I said, who was that?

He's like, some guy.

Some guy.

It was himself.

He told himself.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So I have a real question, hockey question, because obviously it was talked about with McDavid's press conference after.

He's got one year left.

Yes.

Do you think there's any chance they trade him?

Because,

like,

if you're, if you think he's going to walk, you have to trade him right

have to you can't

i think the only way oilers fans would ever have a right

maybe i'm not worded the only way an oilers fan could tell me they hated connor mcdavid is if he doesn't tell them listen i'm not re-sning so they get nothing for him

i get i get that i get that like you got to at least put them in a position to get something like right toronto's getting nothing from mitch martinor like that's that's crippling if he were to tell them that and move on, like, I would, as an Oilers fan, I get it.

And maybe it's because I played.

I'm like, this guy gave you

10 years,

and it'll be 11.

I mean, he gave you everything he had.

He was like,

that's probably a huge disconnect with former and current athletes and fans.

But to me, it's like, dude, he got drafted.

He went there.

He was incredible.

They went to two Stanley Cup finals.

He wanted to leave.

It would suck, but it would be his.

Yeah, no,

right.

He couldn't do it.

Now, would you, are you prepared for if he asked for a trade where when he gets a trade from Edmonton for us to become the biggest Conor McDavid fans?

On whatever target.

I wouldn't really get it.

I wouldn't really get that.

Yeah, but he can too.

Yeah, no, he'll stay it, but then we'll just.

That would be one of your worst looks.

That would be like a true, like, wow, they're like real losers.

No, but I mean, we'd be

losing with that.

Yeah, we're totally fine.

We're appreciating greatness.

It's about appreciating greatness.

You've been trying to educate us about Connor McDavid for the last five years.

Yeah, no.

And now we're finally starting to come around on it.

And you're starting to sound like you're a hater.

But if you're coming around on it, then why would you not like him in Edmonton?

We did like him in a McDavid fan or an Oilers fan.

I wasn't

united because

they're rooting about it.

I'm a McDavid fan.

They're rooting against me.

Right, so, but if I saw how the Oilers treat the game.

But I actually don't mind it because, as I said in Chicago, like, I now have

my Sundays are like who's playing the Bears and who's playing the Redskins, and being able to moot against two different teams is so great for me.

And like you said, hoping that one of your teams gets to the Super Bowl, and then like, oh my God, if they lose this one, it's even better.

You should just do it.

The Bears are never getting

the Commanders.

You should do a boosted DraftKings parlay every week that's just a fade.

Yeah.

This is Ryan.

Let these guys parlay, yeah.

Commanders and fade the

rules.

Should it be better or worse if you got traded to the kings?

Well, for the kids.

What's the worst?

Yeah, what's the worst place to get traded?

Oh, he ends up on the Maple Leaf somehow.

I fucking cute.

That's like the end of the poem.

I didn't even think of that.

I didn't think about that either.

You would actually have to break up with Bits.

You would have to be like a marriage counselor.

Yeah, I know.

I don't know if he wants that madness, but he might.

He wants it.

He wants that madness.

Dude, don't even put that in the universe.

And if David signs a short extension which like that's like rumored like he maybe signs a two-year extension so he's three years left on the oilers yeah

then if oilers fans still are mad when he leaves if they don't win it's like dude he got that that's 13 years right

what was all that about him wanting to talk to his agent afterwards that was like i gotta talk to my agent before i make so that there was a quote that we played on chicklets that was a little like

somebody asked him about basically the core there and how everyone's young and there's still time and he was like yeah he was kind of like Yeah, like, I guess, or something.

Something that was like, uh,

it doesn't necessarily scream like, Yeah, I can't wait to come back with this group.

Um, so now you're you like read so far into that.

It was everyone's reading so far into it.

There's never been a, I mean, there's never been a player like this that's, you know, Sid was always, boom, he signed with Pittsburgh the minute he could.

Um, Ovi, boom, he signs with Washington the minute he could.

Like, there's never been a player that's like coming up upon free agency and isn't locked in.

Is he the biggest free agent ever?

Ever.

If he gets there?

Ever.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

I don't know.

Not even close.

What super speed?

What generational player?

When he did that whole touring, going around stuff.

He wasn't talking NBA.

Wait, you think that...

Hockey, it's not even close.

He's number one.

No, I meant including NBA.

No, because LeBron was, right?

Okay.

So respect for LeBron.

Yeah, I mean, well, he's more famous.

Right?

If he's all in the U.S.

Who's more talented?

McDavid or LeBron?

I don't know enough about basketball.

I'd have to ask, like, I would say

with like Connor, like, LeBron has like he's 6'8, 250 pounds.

Like, he's physically dominant.

Like, if Connor McDavid walked in here right now, you'd be like, hey, like, you wouldn't think he was

who he is.

So, I think for what he has, he's

got more out of he's a better more skilled, more skilled, yeah.

Like, if McDavid was the size of Tom Wilson and this good, it would be like, well, he's, but he's, he's not.

He's like, I don't know, what, 6'1, a buck 90?

Yeah.

He's 6'1?

He's pretty taller than you think.

Yeah, yeah.

He's taller than you think.

Did you kick his ass?

No, I can't kick anyone's ass.

No, no, what?

Literally.

Wait, Ian's, did you ever have an offseason where you said you had to talk to your agent first?

I think the whole play when you say I'm talking to my agent is not.

If I'm the GM of that team, I'm like, oh boy.

Yeah.

Because usually, I don't know.

I mean, he's such a different level.

You just don't know, right?

My thing the whole time has been been that Dreiseitel resigned last summer.

So, with one year to go, you're allowed to resign.

And I was like, all right, Connor's coming back.

Right.

Because why would Leon have signed up if Connor was like, yeah, I am not sure yet?

Now, Grunelli's argument is like, well, he could, he knows that he's so good as well that if McDavid leaves, he'll be like trade mate too.

Right, right.

So what about the rest of the East?

Let's say Marshawn doesn't resign.

Where would he go?

Fuck, I don't know.

Like, I actually could see him going to Toronto.

Yeah, they

biz actually might be right.

No, I'm trying to think of other teams.

Like, I don't know.

My thing with Marshawn is: I think he was so shocked to get traded and not be a bruin for life.

Then he goes to Florida and wins.

He's probably like, I'll just stay here.

And then I did two teams, but I got a cup with both.

Right.

I don't see him.

Everyone's like, he's been underpaid his whole career, which is true, like by a lot, but he still made 60.

Right.

So it's like, yeah, it's not like he's still eating well.

What about, did you guys see the 500k bill at 11 from the Panthers?

Beautiful.

Yeah, that was on our podcast.

Oh, you guys broke that news?

That was ours.

Who told you?

That was ours.

Matthew and Chuck.

Who told me?

We do stitching chicklets.

It was calm.

It was comp.

It was comp.

They said we had a.

He was like, Marchie went to go back in to pay, which if you're going back in to pay, you haven't been underpaid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But he has.

He has.

But he was going back in, and Matthew goes, yeah, I think he forgot that we had a $500,000 comp.

Oh my god, was it itemized?

That's incredible.

I never saw the

CBS receipt.

The Bruins had the legendary one of the receipt of like $100.

Why didn't you go to 11?

You were a Panther?

I was already.

I was up here for the summer.

So you guys met when you guys were both on the Panthers, right?

Who?

Me and

we met when I was like six.

Yeah, but then you guys.

No, we weren't on the Panthers together.

I thought you were for like a week.

No, no.

No.

He came, he signed

two years after yeah when you guys were never on an nhl team no never got to play together but we both got to play with biz so that's the real win yeah that's true we train together together every summer did they talk about which which day is on the panthers like when you got there's legendary yeah it's kind of like you walk in you see the mural you understand and it's

but you put like he downplays it like he played for the team like he could rule he could we'll take him as a fan yeah like if he wants to come over he wore that jersey Biz never wore the Toronto Maple Leafs jerseys.

He's like candles on national TV.

Like, we will take Wit.

Wait, you were on the Coyotes with Biz?

Yeah.

What was your first, when you first met Biz, what were you like, who is this guy?

What's wrong with you?

So I called Wit.

He's like, he's like, oh, you guys just picked up Biz, whatever.

He's like, mark my words, you're going to hate his guts.

the first three days, and then you guys will be boys.

And he hit it on the head.

Like, we almost fought

first practice.

Why?

Dude, you guys don't get Biz at that age.

He was a fucking

idiot.

I remember he was like, he was crazy smarter than his

idiot.

No.

Like,

the loudest person in the locker room.

Mario Lemuse walking around.

Mark Recke's walking around.

Yo, yo, yo, Mario, you won't grab lunch, dude.

He was in.

You want to go to Portobello's or whatever.

And he's not even like, they could just cut him any moment.

Oh, dude.

But then, like, somebody be like, dude, that's Mario.

Like, you don't really like.

And he'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, man.

You know, trying to see if he wants how much.

Like, he doesn't even get like how.

So, our captain in Phoenix, Shane Doan, like the biggest warrior ever, the guy was a fucking animal.

Animal.

Like, the trainers used to have to beg him to come on the table and get some work done.

So, he never would go in the trainer's room.

He was just like a fucking thoroughbred.

So, he's on the table, like, Biz's first day, like, he, like, did something to his hip or whatever.

And he walks in and he's on the table.

And Biz's first day, he's like, oh, donor on the table again.

So, the trainers are like, no, like, don't say that.

Donor gets up.

He's usually the, like, donor's usually the last guy on the ice.

He was the first guy on the ice, waiting, like, skating around.

He's like, I'm going to fucking kill this kid.

And then I almost fought him that first day.

Why?

Because I saw what happened with donor.

Donor was my guy.

He took care of me.

So I like, whatever, something happened.

Then I like kind of like spirit him or whatever.

And he's like, let's go, let's go.

Drops his gloves.

I go, in practice.

In practice, he's about, he's like shaking his gloves.

I go, bro, you drop those gloves.

The stick's going over your noodle.

Does that happen a lot?

Are there fights in practice a lot when you're struggling when the team like the they let them just fight yeah the legendary one was when the blues were in last place

they had a fight between um

bertuzzo and the kid from mouse Zach Sanford Zach Sanford and Bertuzo tuned him up but like it

something clicked now whether it was that or not I don't know but the team just caught fire and you know there was there there needed to be some release in practice where but they happen not not crazy common i just love the story of biz going into the trading room and it's probably this guy's nightmare to be made fun of for being in the trading room yeah and then that's why he didn't go in all his worst fears come true and this is when biz was selling his clothes i remember he was like the first kenny teller to get like a million instagram followers

twitter twitter twitter yeah he was selling his clothes he'd like offer guys deals on like t-shirts and shit he was wait so when when did it click that you became friends with biz three days after what happened so i used to i'd never drove to the rank.

I'd always get rides.

I just hate driving.

So I'm there, and like the guy that drove me was like, hey, I got a bounce, find another ride.

Last guy there, Biz.

I'm like, oh, God.

I get in the back.

He's got like a Toyota Camry.

And it's like, there's a hockey stick in between like the handles in the back with all of his clothes hanging.

I'm like, hey, dude, you ever think you need to like back up?

It didn't have like a backup camera.

So I'm like, oh my God.

He drops me off.

He like sees the house.

He's like, you mind if I crash here for a couple of weeks?

I'm like, absolutely not, dude.

dude.

I got a wife and kids.

Like, absolutely not.

No, I didn't have kids at the time.

You can see the extra bedroom.

But a good practice fight story.

This guy, Josh Grattin, that I played with, was a mutant.

Nail gun.

Tough as shit.

Crazy.

I love that phrase, nail gun.

So in our best defenseman at the time, his name is Ed Jovanowski, who was crazy tough, too, but he was our best D-man, making like the most money.

They get into a fight in practice, and Gratz just like grabbed him and just took like 10 punches to the face.

We're in the locker math.

I'm like, why didn't you swing back?

He goes, goes, I hit him.

I go to the miners.

We just took 10 punches in the face.

I'm like, oh my God.

Yeah, but this kid couldn't get cut.

Yeah.

Yeah.

His skin was like double this thick as a normal person.

Jesus.

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that's crazy so tough yeah biz biz biz back in pittsburgh oh my god it was it was so you got drafted then he came what a year later he actually got drafted the year after me but then he was pro before me because i stayed in college for a couple years right and then the first time i ever

saw biz I walked into Mellon Arena 745 in the morning.

I was the second session skating.

No, yeah, I showed up at like say 8:00, 7:45.

I was skating at 9:30, and he is middle of the ice, squaring off with Dan Carcillo, fighting like maybe the earliest fighting pro hockey history.

And they were boys.

And I'm like, who is this guy?

And then he came walking,

bus, I'm busy, bus, nasty.

I'm like, I hate this kid.

And I started loving him once you get to know him.

What's the draft process like in the NHL?

Like, do you got, did you have a party at your house?

I went to the draft.

Okay.

Yeah, because you were high-picked.

Yeah, I was a first-round pick.

A lot of guys, I don't know if it's the same, would go to like go to the draft.

Like, even if you were projected third-round, they'd go.

See your friends.

It's not like the NFL where you see the

cameras on you.

It's like, oh, this guy's so sad that he hasn't been drafted.

No, yeah, my draft, there was a guy that was supposed to go first overall for like three years, and he didn't.

And they'd pick a guy, put him on camera, and then they just panned this kid in the crowd i remember being like oh jay bowmeister he ended up doing pretty good yeah wait so uh wait so you went to your draft you didn't go to yours right no mine party forget yeah we had a party at my house that was fun actually uh mine was the lockout year so only like the top 10 whatever it was guys went it was in like a conference room that was sid's draft year and Yeah, we didn't go.

We had a party at my house.

Like my parents had to go out buy a computer because, and then I got like a phone call.

And they're like, hey, Wayne Gretzky wants to talk to you.

I'm like, why would Wayne Gretzky want to talk to me?

I didn't know he was the coach of Arizona.

I'm like, hey, what's up?

And he's like, welcome to the team.

I'm like, oh my God.

And then it was just like a crazy way.

That's pretty incredible that you got drafted by Wayne Gretzky.

Yeah.

That's like an all-time moment.

Did you, did they, did you think you were going to go when you went, or did you think you were going to go earlier?

You were like supposed to go a little earlier.

I was supposed to go, yeah, like second round.

I got in a little trouble off ice.

And then

you dropped.

Yeah, Keith was a little crazy.

Wait, what pick were you?

Fifth.

That's crazy.

Weak draft.

No, come on.

Fuck off.

2003 draft after me was Biz's draft.

That's the best draft of all time.

When did Biz get picked?

Second round, like 45th.

Oh, wow.

Biz was like,

he's a defenseman then.

Yeah.

But he was the greatest youth hockey player of all time, right?

No.

I think he was this size.

I think he was.

I thought he was.

No, he definitely wasn't.

I don't know who told you that, but they were.

I think it might have been Biz.

He might have been Zach.

Wait, what round was Biz in?

Second.

Second.

But that round.

So that's a good thing.

Was Biz a bust?

Is he a bust?

For that draft.

Well, he's probably the most famous.

I'm seeing who was drafted after him.

Biz has done pretty well.

He's a beauty.

Corey Perry, I think, was drafted.

Great friend, but I'd say if I'm being objective as a journalist, I'm looking at that draft.

Like, if we did the redraft, where we're so biz almost made the team at 18 in Pittsburgh as a D-Man.

Oh, no, no, no, he's a fourth-rounder.

He's a fourth-rounder.

He was a fourth-rounder.

I don't know why I thought he was a second-rounder.

Bust proof.

Who's good?

I retract.

That's bus proof.

You can't be a bust.

No, he's not a bust.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's not a bust at all.

If he's made the first or second round, yeah, he played over.

No, he's actually a successful 200 games, right?

Yeah, he's, yeah.

He is.

They're going to do a 30 for 30 on that.

So last night we were hanging out.

Whitney, you have a prediction that there's going to be a guy in the next 20 years in the NHL who's just as good with his right as he is his left.

Yeah, I was thinking about that this morning.

It might be 30 years.

30?

But I think we're going to get the Shohei Otani.

The Shohei Otani Amidextrous NHL player.

That would rock.

And he'll have to have a

straight curve.

Like Sidney Crosby, just straight stick.

Yeah, yeah.

You'd have the straight stick, and then you'd drive wide and be unreal righty, and you'd drive wide and be unreal lefty.

And, I mean, like defending, you could switch your top hand here and there.

I don't know.

I just think that at some point you're going to see things that you never thought imaginable

in every sport.

We never thought about it.

Or maybe a goalie.

Two gloves.

Oh, no stick, though.

No stick, yeah.

So we just forgot that a goalie had a stick for a second?

I did.

It's offseason.

Some of us had a couple of substances last night when we were talking about this prospect.

That's true.

I came up with the invention of the double curve stick that looks like an S, so you've got two curves in it.

And then I thought about saying, What about a goalie with no stick?

And then I realized that's probably not going to work out.

No, that's bad.

What about a goalie with two sticks?

Illegal.

Illegal.

Okay.

Illegal right there.

Do they, this might be a dumb question.

Do they actually measure the goalie's pads before every game?

Yeah.

Like before every single one, I don't know if it's

because that's a really good way to cheat.

So every goalie, if you look at their pads, the inside, like the top, has a signature on it.

It's like J, whatever.

And it's the guy has to sign off on those.

Okay.

Oh, wow.

It's like random, though.

But so, like, it's every pad.

But you could maybe one day

a big game, yeah.

Game seven Stanley Cup

break out the big pads.

I know, but imagine if like you won, and then that new you got busted after all.

Imagine if that happened to the Oilers.

What would they do?

If you had a moment where you were so happy, and then they're like, nope, taking it away.

You have to replay the game.

The greatest day of our lives.

Everyone fly to that.

We have to fly back in the jet for game eight turnaround.

I was happily sending you game eight, man.

Game eight.

Wait, did you guys ever play in a game with an e-bug?

No.

I had.

Never had

where they played.

Oh, but had him on the bench.

Oh,

this was like an e-bug for like real players.

Yeah.

He was just a bug.

We had a kid in New York.

Our goalie left and like our GM, our assistant GM called me.

He's like, hey, do you know any goalies around?

And our buddy Bunzo was living in New York at the time.

I'm like, find some goalie pads.

You're a backup tonight.

Trying to get him.

He ended up calling me back.

He's like, they found a kid.

So you get to the rink at what, five o'clock?

Yeah, 4:30.

4:30.

He was fully dressed at 4:30.

This kid just ready for warm up.

This taking it all in.

Just ready.

I'm like, guy, we got three guys.

It is the coolest thing in sports.

Like, imagine if any other sport had that.

Well, that's like, some people argue it's like makes hockey look like.

No, no, but

I think it's great.

That's awesome.

That's my favorite

of all the Maple Leafs' embarrassing stats.

The no cups in 67, the no-conference finals.

It's that their Zamboni driver beat them in an NHL.

Their own.

Their own.

That is the best thing I've ever heard.

Joe, imagine if all the other sports had it.

Like, if they were just like...

A picture.

Yeah, or like a basketball player.

Like, everyone, any fan could show up in full gear and you could just get called on.

You just get called on.

But Biz said that as a player, he's like, they should have e-bug players.

Like, if a guy gets hurt, I'm like, guy, you don't think a guy in like the local union 108 is like sees Brad Marchawn if they're playing against New York, he's going to two-hand him in the face.

Like, a goalie doesn't really have like

impact.

Well, my big idea is we pitched it to some of the starting pitchers we've talked to, is I think the first pitch in baseball games should count.

So, like, 50 cent goes up and he has to pitch.

You got to be on the mound.

Yeah.

Just every single time.

Do you think Joe Burrow was joking around on those?

We spin zoned it because we're friends with Joe Burrow.

I think he got, I think that whole fucking Fanatics thing was just like they basically listed, like, all right, what's going to go viral?

Let's make a fake viral thing here, here.

And they were like, Joe Burrow, we're going to pay you like $2 million.

Suck at throwing baseballs.

Oh, really?

Yeah,

that's the only way I can stomach it.

I think it might be a bad thing.

But he was throwing it like a football.

I know.

But they were like,

you can do this, and we'll pay you a shitload of money.

It will go viral.

I think it might be just misdirection.

Like, he doesn't want people to think he's got a good arm.

That's it.

So he's going to throw a bad dick.

Make your enemies think that you're weak when you're strong.

They know

you're not gonna have an arm.

Yeah, yeah, but when he's been in the league for like four years, you think to yourself, like, maybe Joe Burrow sucks now.

What are your realistic expectations individually of your teams this year?

I'm talking about football,

cautiously optimistic, like over 500, cautiously optimistic.

No, like, seriously, like,

I think they should.

I think they should, they have a tough schedule.

I think they should win.

He's a six out of ten, not nine games, ten ten games, maybe.

Oh, I'll take the other one.

And

if he's as bad this year as he was.

Oh, yeah.

No, all right.

So here's the only thing.

It's over.

Here's the best part about this year.

I think Caleb Williams is really good.

They have set up everything with the coach, with the offensive line, with the weapons.

If he sucks this year, it's over.

We'll find out right away.

You know what I mean?

Like, if he's bad, there's not going to be like, oh, well, they don't have an offensive line.

Which is actually good because you want to find out.

And if you could switch it, you would take his guy, right?

Right now.

I'm not going to say that yet.

Yeah, of course.

Oh, I think that's so obvious.

Like, look at how happy he is.

You have a good quarterback.

Like, we grew up with the Brady era of being New England fans.

Like, you have a good quarterback.

Deep down, you know I can't.

I can't say every facet of my life,

every minute, every second, every activity that I do is better because I have Jaden Daniels.

Let's get this.

My days are brighter when I wake up in the morning and I'm like,

let's get this conversation back to Conor McDavid.

No.

What's your expectation?

Oh, season's over.

Like, Super Bowl?

Yeah, you're thinking Super yet.

I'm not thinking Supi yet because we do have a very tough schedule.

We had an easy schedule last year.

This year's schedule is way, way harder.

There usually is some sort of regression in the second year if a quarterback comes out like that and lights the world on fire.

So I would like to make the playoffs again.

I think if we don't make the playoffs, big disappointment.

And then once we get there, yeah, I want to go to the Super Bowl.

But I'm not thinking like

this year right now is the start.

It's not your window.

It is.

No, it is.

This is the start of the Super Bowl window.

And what is that year?

Five years?

I mean,

as long as we have him under that first contract.

Yeah.

So I said after like maybe 10 or 12 weeks last year, like, we're not going to make the Super Bowl this year, but this is the start of the window where everything that we do should be done with the understanding that this team can win a Super Bowl.

So like contracts like that.

Entry-level deals for quarterbacks.

You get four years and then a five-year extension on it.

So the team can take a five-year option.

And anytime in that five years, you're really underpaying your quarterback.

So you can overpay for other guys.

Yeah.

So he has like a first or whatever he wants.

Isn't it?

What's he making?

10, 20?

No, it's less.

Yeah, I think the second year is like four

million.

He gets a big signing bonus.

It's like they make like they make like 25 or 30.

I'll look at it.

And right off the fall, they could sign him right now to an 80.

No, no, it's after the third year.

Yeah, you can.

Because you guys will.

But you're not canceling the other years.

No, correct.

It kicks in.

Correct.

That's how Mahomes, Mahomes won his first two while.

I'm pretty sure it was his first two while he was still.

Is that right?

So why would you sign?

It's basically,

if you look at the NFL, and I've had this argument with people because they're like, well, what about this?

Outside of Tom Brady, who took less money, like pretty much every year the Super Bowl has a team that has a quarterback who's on a rookie deal.

Wow.

Like, it's pretty consistently, it might not be like they win, but like Joe Burrow, obviously those Bengals teams, like you can go back and it's just, was Jalen Hurts still.

No, he signed an extension.

But did it kick in?

I'm not sure.

I don't think he kicked in.

So, yeah, he was still getting paid, like the Eagles this year.

Like, Brock Purdy last year.

I don't even need a 40 hours from the Super Bowl.

The Eagles don't need a quarterback.

You just got to.

Oh, wow.

So, you're, yeah, so getting

realistically, no, the Eagles max.

Like, the Eagles, you guys could win games without a guy.

Like, he's not

your best player.

He's not your target.

Where would you rank him?

Where would you rank Jalen Hurts?

As

a quarterback in the league.

By the way,

Jayden Daniels is making $2.5 million this year.

Like, that's what he's doing.

He's really good for what he does, right?

Like, what he's doing is winning, and it's like

whatever.

Max, like, I'd take Dak Prescott over.

What do you have, Max?

Like, top five?

He said Dak Prescott, so I'm not participating in this contract.

He's blacked out.

Yeah, that's fair.

Yeah, I think it's kind of hard.

Jalen Hurts' contract did kick in.

I'm sorry.

It's kind of hard to

definitively say that

Dak Prescott couldn't do what Jalen Hurts is doing.

He had that

line that running.

I don't know that much about the NFL.

is going in a bad direction.

I'll say it.

That's for sure.

I think being

sure.

Look at that team.

Look at that D.

Look at Saquon.

I think there's enough body of evidence out there with Dak Prescott.

I think we can.

He's the 17th best quarterback in the NFL.

But he's never had a team like that.

Eagles team.

That's also true.

Yeah, so I'm looking up right now.

Mahomes, in 2019, they won the Super Bowl.

He was making $2 million.

In 2022, when they won the Super Bowl, he was making $30, which is still so cheap for him.

Then Then, this 2023, he was making 60.

So, you got like, obviously, Mahomes, like, they'll still be in it, but like, that window of when you're paying your quarterback, not 50, 60 million dollars is so fucking huge.

But that, that, you getting Daniels, it's crazy how it works.

Sometimes you're better getting the second pick because you don't have to make the decision.

I had him first, I had him ranked first.

Well, I mean, unless it's like Ryan Leaf.

No, no, oh, yeah, oh, there's times, there's, there's probably more

times where it's worse, but like,

yeah, you think?

But there's times where it's like.

Yeah, you get the decision made for you.

Yeah.

That was mean what you did to Max.

You want to apologize?

He won.

Dak Prescott's is the 17th best quarterback.

Really?

That's where we rank him.

Max and Yanz are the only people who've won shit in this fucking room.

No, Mac, I'm not, like, chirping.

I think any, like...

Dak Prescott's never had an elite offensive line in great weapons or something.

No, he has had.

Yeah, that's true.

You're right.

I'm more thinking the D.

I'm more thinking the D.

The defense was nasty.

Their D, yeah, they did not have that.

Like, that was before.

who won the Eagles this Super Bowl in the future.

Like, the party offense, if you had to give up,

I think they both played pretty good.

Yeah, their offense is a bit of a bad.

DeLon Barkley was the best.

The D is unbelievable.

The Eagles are fucking awesome.

Are the Eagles in a spot where they could get this?

Like, are they in a dynasty battle?

Yeah, they could easily win it again this year.

It's a big disappointment if they don't.

A lot of work to be done, but yeah, they're in a good spot.

They lost a lot of guys, but you know, we next man up.

Yes.

Next man, they just dropped his draft really well.

Yeah, Howie.

Fucking Howie.

Georgia, yeah, they just draw

Georgia guys who go fast.

Yeah, are you guys wanting to bonus Mount Rushmore?

Yeah, should we do Mount Rushmore hockey players?

Yeah, all right, seems kind of like

layup, yeah.

The best hockey players, Mount Rushmore are the best hockey players.

Okay, okay, we'll go.

You two start, okay.

I'll go first, Wayne Gretzky.

Okay, I'll go second, Connor McDavid.

Okay,

I can't take someone you guys already took.

That's how Mount Rushmore works.

I'll take Sid.

Bobbior.

Now you have another man.

Mario Lemieux.

I already won.

Yeah, his is nice.

I'll take Ray Bork.

I'll take Yager.

Oh, good pick.

Good pick.

I got McDavid and Yager.

I'll take Alexander Ovechkin.

And then I will take...

That's a good pick, PFT.

That's a really good pick.

Run out of hockey players.

Can you get two more?

No, I can.

Yeah.

I was going to say Marty McSoli.

Fuck it.

I'm going to take Paul Bissinette.

I'll take Brodor.

Oh, I need to goal.

Goalie.

You got to have a potty wa, potty potato.

There we go.

That's a good one.

What was his line when he's like, I can't hear you with all the rings in my ears?

Who do you say that to?

Roanick.

Yeah.

With all the rings in my hairs.

These are going to get put up and voted on.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So I'll take Dominic Hashic.

Okay.

So I got Lemieux or Hashik.

And I'll end my team.

So I'll end my team with,

holy shit.

Where do I go?

D or forward?

You know who I want to take, Keith.

Lidstrom.

Yeah, but.

Hmm.

Mark Messier.

Oh, that's good.

That's a hell of a team.

That's a one thousand.

That's a hell of a team.

I got toughness.

I got gold.

Can I take a guy I don't know that much about, but he was obviously I'll take Mr.

Hockey, Gordy Haw.

Okay.

Good one.

good pick uh can i i want it on the graphic i want it ryan whitney before his ankles betrayed him thank you that's a that's a good pick that's a good pick 59 points someone's got a 59 point that's what i'm saying off the glass and sid grabbed out of the air you never used to rush more guy you never use the glass i'm gonna go chelyos good pick yeah did anyone take bobby hold no um no no way better hockey player than person

bobby hull i'd never met him way better hockey player than Phil.

He's not alive anymore.

Yeah, I know, but he was a way better hockey player than person.

Okay.

I disagree.

You disagree?

I don't know him.

Agree with me on this.

I do not know the man.

Just agree that he's a way better hockey player.

He's an unbelievable hockey player.

Oh, this is what you who do you guys do this?

JJ.

JJ Watt.

He was just a better football player.

You're like, dude, you're a better football player.

Because they always say there's got to be better people, yeah.

As good a football player is even better human being.

No, that's not true.

Yeah, he's not a 0.41% human being.

I would say he's a top 1% human being, but he's not a top.

Biz is a better person than hockey players.

Absolutely.

He's a better person than hockey player.

He's still thanking people.

He's down there just thanking.

One of my favorite things, last night we were at dinner, and

Biz was in the middle of a conversation with

Sass and Arian, and they were talking, and Biz was just like chewing on his fingers, and Yance and I were just watching.

He's like, he's not listening to anything like he's just riah slideshow going through his 40 break how about when we go biz how old's sass and he looked

his tough as hairline

28

he's the fucking best wait because what is he a tree you can't count him

do you guys want to do way too early stanley cup productions oh yeah

i mean i think you know what you're getting from both of them yeah i mean how are you not supposed to pick florida we're going to run it back should we do one from the east one from the west?

Each.

Hold on.

Hey, we got Biz.

Should I get him on?

Yeah.

Tell him to come up here real quick.

What's up, bro?

Yo, you guys want to go grab dinner?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

You're on part of my take right now.

You got anything to say?

Love the boys.

Hey,

can I say your text message out loud, Biz?

Ask him if he thinks he's a better person or a better player.

PMP fans are listening.

Put a future on the lease next year.

It's our year next year.

He didn't even know we're talking about it.

Hey, dude, you know how they say people like, oh, he's a better person than he was, football player?

You know how, like, people say that, like, term?

Yeah.

Would you say you're a better person than you were, hockey player?

Like, you mean as in like a person

to treat people?

Yeah, just a person.

Yeah, fuck.

I'd hope so.

Fuck, I was brutal.

All right, we're finishing up.

Oh, he's the worst.

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Showing you all.

Big deal.

He's showing you.

Every time he does it, I'm like, fucking Big Cat's got this memorized.

It is impressive.

He's been doing it a little bit.

Yeah, I mean.

All right, let's do the predictions.

Let's not pick on the Edmonton Oilers.

I'll take the Oilers, too.

You got to take one from the East.

East and West.

Oh,

fuck.

Who's good in the East?

The East has nobody besides the Panthers.

Tampa.

Because maybe McDavid will go there.

I'll take

Dallas, Florida.

I'll take the Maple Leafs over the Oilers, and then Chicklets will cease to exist.

All Canada finals.

That would, you, I mean, that would be torture for me.

I would actually, like, not even want that.

Yeah, I would, it would be torture.

I got

Golden Knights

and Panthers.

Peace.

Hey, by the way, do you guys have any NBA draft thoughts before we go?

Because it's going on right now.

Cooper flag.

Yep.

There you go.

He said it in.

What do they make?

A lot.

Legit.

Second overall is getting what, four?

Lottery picks make a lot.

Second round doesn't have guaranteed con.

Did they change it?

Two rounds, right?

Yes, two rounds.

And they made it two days ago.

What'd you think about it?

So stupid.

What'd you think about LeBron drafting Bronnie last year?

You guys

have to do my kids, yeah.

100%.

My kid's going to probably podcast someday.

Well, you wouldn't.

I want a better life for my kids.

Yeah.

You're not touching a mic.

Yeah.

They're going to podcast.

They're going to have to just do it.

Imagine your kids trying to become podcasts and everyone's carving them.

You're not as good as your old man.

Yeah.

You'll never be.

Yeah.

So it's sucked.

I kind of like that.

That's why I like, yeah, like walk home every day.

Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.

Now you know what I was going through.

That's how I got so good.

You don't know shit, kid.

He's getting just crushed online.

It is so funny just thinking like 15 years from now, like in the olden days where it's like, you know, you have kids and they work on the farm or they go to the factory and like with their old man, it's like, I just show them a mic and I'm like, here you go.

This is what you do.

I was talking to a guy guy recently, he was like teaching his kids basically like man stuff, right?

Like, and I was like, Reggie, I don't know,

nothing like change a tire, that's all.

I don't know, yeah, like how

sweet about the Oilers.

Like, I don't,

I'm letting you down here,

right?

All right, how do you want to say coffee meme?

You want to sing Pink Pony Club, yeah, over and over again.

There's actually a YouTube video of like a guy, he's got a shitload of subscribers who just like he just shows like dad stuff to kids, like how to tie a tie.

He does like, two trials.

My brother-in-law wants to do a man camp where you would be good at it.

Like, he's the guy who can do anything.

I'm talking cars,

like, plumbing, anything.

And he's like, I think you could get guys, like, to come and you have beers, and I teach you how to do everything.

And you can then, I'm like, fucking.

Absolutely.

I mean, you get those idiots who go to the

fake Navy SEALs camps where they just get beat up and yelled at.

Yeah, right.

Tiger Woods.

Like, they just get beat up and yelled at and called like pussies.

And like, those guys pay a shitload of money for it.

I would absolutely pay if I could show up and be like, here's how to use a fucking saw.

Yeah, teach me.

Yeah.

Teach me how to just maybe like put in the screen on the window.

That's also.

It's so emasculating to sign up and pay that money.

I would do it.

But

his argument.

His argument was how much money are you saving in the end?

Yeah, okay.

Okay not having a call of a task rabbit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I get like a ping-pong table and I call a task rabbit.

Can you put this together?

Oh, dude,

the saddest thing, I shouldn't even say this out loud, the task rabbit to build my firstborn's crib and I took a nap while the guy came and built it.

Like, you check that thing for safety?

He's like, yeah, I got you, bud.

Like, Jesus Christ, you can't even provide for your kid.

It was like 45 bucks, though.

No, I can't work.

TaskRabbit's amazing.

Yeah.

They should come on Chickleton PMT now as advertising.

Yes, they should.

They should.

Yeah, and

we'll interview someone, a handyman from Task Rabbit.

Yeah.

what's the laziest thing you ever had to do?

I got the guy, Aaron, he's like still wearing a mask.

I'm like, dude, oh, you got a guy that you keep going back to?

Yeah, that's awesome.

So you're off app now.

You got his number.

You don't have a guy that went off app.

That's good.

That's good.

Not like that.

I need an Aaron.

It's a handy.

He's a straight-up handyman.

Chunky.

Chunky just shows up.

Chunky does everything.

That's awesome.

Oh, yeah.

He used to work for the Panthers.

Yeah.

He works the visitor's room.

Yeah.

He's the best.

Does everything.

Just call him up.

If, like, what do you want?

One-on-one concierge.

What did you call him up for last?

Probably change light bulbs.

Are they like talking about him?

No, honestly, he might call him to plug in his golf cart in the game.

Oh, he does everything.

Guys, all time.

Best guy.

He would do anything for anyone.

He's like an oldie, but like,

knows how to put on.

How about we're at the bonfire last night?

Oldie's like, oh, I got this, boys.

I'm a fireman.

We didn't have any fire.

Put on a fire.

He was a fireman.

I guess he's a good fireman.

Yeah, he said I put him on.

That's the exact opposite of his job.

Yeah.

All right, boys.

We we love you uh have a good offseason chicklets one time's one time a week now what days yeah uh

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Okay, let's wrap up the show.

We got Fire Fest of the week.

Also, reminder to everyone, next week we are on vacation, but we will still have shows.

We have Monday, we're going to do Dungeon and Dragons.

Great episode.

Wednesday, we have our dingers-only draft.

We have Joey Chestnut, we have Zach Gallin and Meryl Kelly, and we'll also update anything we missed.

So there'll be a new show Wednesday, no show Friday on 4th of July, and then we'll be back.

So we have two shows next week.

I forget, did we say for Dingers only that the guys that we drafted, the home runs, did they count in between the draft?

They did not.

No, we're starting it when it's live on Dingers Only, I think, will be July 2nd.

All right.

Hank, yeah.

What's your fire fest of the week?

My fire fest is my Friday fest.

My fry fest.

Fry fest of the week.

Frider fest?

Yeah.

That was really the only bad thing that happened to me this week.

Tough, tough take, didn't need to even speak up, said it for no reason.

Yeah, you really, I watched it back, and it PFT and I were just kind of talking, and you just

out of nowhere was like, yeah.

It was anti-Florio.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was trying to figure out a way to get it Florio.

That's true.

It's a big deal why he dropped it on a Friday.

It was Tuesday.

But, you know, it's July 4th week coming up.

We just have been golfing for three days.

There's not too much wrong going on in my life yeah it's great yeah that's great you didn't wear a hat this week

no i didn't i didn't love the hats that we had for for the like it just didn't match my outfits i guess uh you're matching outfits guy now no i just i don't know i just i went colorways i went no hat yesterday i wore a hat today yeah but when no one told me that there was a sticker on my hat which I was upset about after.

The hat that you didn't wear?

No, I wore a hat today.

Oh, today, yeah, but I mean, yesterday it was sunny.

Today it was not.

You did not wear a hat in the sun.

Wait.

Trying to get blonde hair.

You are?

We were thinking about doing sun and.

Oh, you should bleach it.

Well, just natural, yeah.

I don't know.

Put lemon in it.

Yeah.

Blue lemon.

Yeah.

Hank,

you wore, you had a sticker on your hat all day yesterday and no one said anything.

Today.

Today,

you got lofted.

I got lofted.

You got lofted.

You should sue.

Hank Loftwood.

Will you be suing for your lofted?

Yeah, I would like to loft it.

Okay, so that means you're a loser.

Yeah, you just fell for that.

That was dumb.

Walked right into that one, eh?

That is brutal, though.

Actually, does that mean if we don't sue for being lofted, that means that we are entitled to money?

Yeah,

we are.

Whose money?

I'm just saying, like, if you do sue for being lofted, then that means that you should lose that lawsuit.

So if you don't sue, then that means that you are entitled to money.

But how do you get it without suing?

Let's catch 22.

By the way, that just made me think of an idea.

We should do Mount Rushmore of like minor embarrassments.

That's a good one.

Yeah, we'll do that at some point this summer.

Because, yeah, like that just sucks to walk around and just...

I had a lot of people.

Only when you're

in a corporate or professional setting and someone's like, your flies down.

Like, if it was one of you guys, we're like, well, don't burn the Mount Rushmore, dude.

Yeah.

Okay.

That was a 1-1 pick.

Okay.

I had the thing coming out of my hat, but someone told me right away.

Was it Max?

I think it was Tom Lay, actually.

Shout out to Tom Lay.

Huge.

I think also with you, Hank, when you wear a hat that has a sticker on it, if I saw that, I would think he's doing it on purpose.

Yeah, like that cool guy move.

It's a cool guy move that I don't know about, so I better not say anything.

I don't like it.

Memes does it all the time.

Memes does it.

I'm not going to roast it, but it makes no sense to me ever.

It bothers the fuck out of me.

Yeah.

You leave your stickers on your hats.

I do.

Yeah.

What's up with that?

I don't know.

I think I heard one time, like, it makes it inauthentic if you take them off.

Are you

selling your hats?

No.

No, I don't want it to lose value.

I got this 1981 Jets hat.

Wait, do you think, are you saying inauthentic, like the resell of the hat, or are you saying inauthentic?

Like, someone walks up to you, sees you in a Jets hat, looks to see if there's a sticker, and there's no sticker, and they're like, yeah, you're not a Jets fan.

You're inauthentic.

Yeah, kind of both.

I was looking at, I was getting rid of some hats, and I have some old PMT ones that just, I took the sticker off and just dust around them.

Around the, where the sticker was.

Where the sticker was.

Hats do have.

I can't get rid of hats or shoes.

Dude, Scott.

I actually, how many hats do you guys think you have?

I probably have 60 hats.

Oh, I got over 100.

Probably over 150.

I might be in like the 300 or 400s.

It's insane.

We should do a whole hat on.

Well, just in my house.

I know you have a bunch at the office.

No, I'm saying just in my house, I might have that.

I need a hat room.

I have a closet that's just hats, and I have another closet that's hats that i wear

and are they hung up i need to hang up my hats because that's my my other problem is i just i actually all my hats get ruined by other hats it's just the weight of the other hats push them down yeah i mean if if you are

six where do you put them i didn't even wear one where you want to put it my backpack they get crumpled up in there a little bit can i tell you you can combine them no can i tell you the trick where's my backpack you got to do that one i uh i attach it to the strap yeah because if you put it in the bag, it's ruined.

But if you have two on there, it looks weird.

That was the hat talk.

Do you think this is an episode?

If we look back, it's like we talked about the most inconsequential things.

Yeah, I'd say so.

But I mean, that's what this Friday is for.

This is actually, it is the traditional Friday before the 4th of July week news dump.

Correct.

Hank was just early on it.

Right.

But he's right that when the NFL has bad news to release, it is that day.

It's always like somebody getting busted for some sort of drug,

some team owner siphoning money from everybody else.

It's the lowest news cycle week of the year, probably.

Yeah.

It's like this week, end of this week and next week are the lowest news cycle.

News draft?

What?

You just did the NBA draft.

Yeah, but that was inconsequential.

The NBA draft is

a thing.

The lottery's more consequential than the NBA draft.

The draft over.

We don't know who's going to be good.

The draft has been the Sixers' biggest day of the last decade.

Yeah, and look where it got them.

Yeah.

Process.

What?

You are a Wizards fan.

No, so we crushed our NBA draft recap.

Max, I'm sorry.

I know, but I'm just saying that.

This isn't like enough.

The whole process.

There is something this week.

I guarantee there's weeks that are less than the NBA draft.

Also, number one, Max, I'm not a Wizards fan.

I'm Wizards curious.

I'm experimenting with the Wizards.

I experimented back in college.

Now, as I get older, I'm like, maybe I should go back and check them out again.

But for the Sixers, that is like the big thing that you guys built around correct your whole process i like the nba was focused on the nba draft so you should be excited about it yeah i like i like the nba draft yeah also my dinner order last night was a disaster

yeah we should talk about that

like a six ray

yeah i mean it it boils down to this uh

we you know we had a we had a good table it was it was a lot of good banter i wasn't I didn't look at the menu and then the guy came around and was like, what do you want?

And I was just like, ah, pizza.

And And yeah, everyone else, everyone else got full meals, and he just came out and just with a big cheese pizza.

Hey, Corder,

a large cheese pizza sitting in front of him the entire night.

And then I got wicked, bad heartburn.

Like, I haven't had heartburn, like, whatever you guys talk about, I can't relate.

And today, I was like, oh, fuck.

I also don't think I've ever heard you say wicked once, and it's like the first time we've ever recorded it.

This wasn't in Massachusetts.

Yeah,

that was so funny, though, because, like, yeah, it was, I got like a chicken parm.

I think Biz got a steak or some fish, and you just had a large cheese pizza sitting right in front of you.

Yeah, it was tough.

It looked like it was her birthday party.

It was tough sitting next to like your Chuck E.

Cheese.

Sitting next to Yandle or just chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp every two seconds.

I was like, Yeah, no, this is, it's tough to come back from this.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, dude, Yance was in my head.

He said that he's never been out ordered.

So then I tried to tell the waiter to tell, I was like, get whatever he gets.

And then he, his order was like 10 minutes long.

And I was like, you you don't want to eat like half of it.

Yeah.

Did you eat it?

That was for sure.

You guys see Biz's chicken wings last night?

Yeah, he doesn't eat, he eats them with a fork and knife.

Paul Bissinet eats chicken wings with a fork and a knife.

I've never, never been so disappointed, man.

But then I looked at the chicken wings.

They might have been a little undercooked.

Oh, okay.

But still, he went for his go-to move: his fork, knife, chicken wing.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

All right, PFD, your firefest?

My firefest is that my back is fucked up.

Bad back.

Bad back this week.

That's on me.

It might have something to do with

my swing coach

not giving me a warm-up regimen.

Wait, is it your fault?

It's partially, we went over a lot of

practice technique and we didn't create a physical stretching and training program, which is going to be implemented

when we're back.

There was a moment where someone asked.

PFT, I was standing next to him.

They're like, how'd you screw up your back?

Was it golf or something else?

And PFT's like, no, I just woke up with this.

I was like, PFT, you have been golfing like 700 shots a day.

He's like, Oh, yeah, that's probably golf.

Yeah, it's golf-related.

I brought that to Hank's attention, and we operate as a team.

Hank's an accountability guy.

He goes, That's probably not far from the truth that I might have screwed that up by not giving you warm-up.

But it's uh, yeah, the herniated disc, and it's been tough to walk around.

I think I have to cancel the vacation for next week because I don't think I'm going to be able to walk around Yellowstone.

Uh, but that just means wait, seriously, that sucks, yeah, because I I can't sit down.

And if I'm hiking, that's going to be bad.

But spin zone, I get to just chill in Chicago and not do shit.

Oh.

And just take a lazy vacation.

Are you going to golf?

I was about to say, like.

I'm going to give myself a couple days off.

You're going to golf and get hurt again.

I'm going to take a couple of days off golf.

But I did.

There's something magical about doing like those stretches.

And then you stand up and you immediately feel better.

Yeah.

You're like, oh, that's all I have to do?

You're fixed.

But then once your back gets better, then you forget to do the stretches because you feel good then your back gets hurt again there's it's also uh whenever you get injured and you wake up in the morning you're like I feel incredible yeah and then 15 minutes goes by you're like oh nope the injury's still there yeah yeah but we got here and the the people at the club were they were awesome here shout out to great horse great horse was fantastic

phenomenal phenomenal facility people were great i got here and it was like at its worst i could barely move my legs and uh all the people were like are you okay are you okay?

And I was just trying to like tough it out and be fine.

And then, throughout the course of the week, everyone's coming up to me that works here, being like, Hey, are you feeling okay?

Are you feeling better?

They're like babying me as I'm walking.

I'm like, Yes, I'm good, I can walk, I can get around, but yeah, nothing will screw up your back or your weak like a bad back.

So, yeah, no, absolutely nothing.

So, it does suck to not go to Yellowstone.

The good news is, Yellowstone's still going to be there, so I'll go back at some other point, but I'm very much looking forward to having a vacation where I just just sleep in yeah and that's my vacation yeah that's gonna rock the staycation yeah um okay my fire fest is a combined fire fest because um it's combined with max he can chime in uh on tuesday night when we finished the show i got up to go back to uh our cabin and then all of a sudden i feel a kick on my shin a light kick on my shin and it's hank and i look down i'm like what and he just nods over memes and max uh road games are awful for these guys.

So I just want to say this for all the AWLs, I know people are like, where's the show?

Where's the show?

It came out, I think, like five in the morning, six in the morning.

Road games, they basically have to work like twice as hard, and it sucks for them.

I don't think they've even slept, but there was a maybe hour and a half that we thought we had lost the entire recording of the show.

I was thrilled, including Hank's Friday moment.

And it was, it sucked.

We were just sitting here like, well, what are we?

I actually was going to say, maybe we just don't even re-record it because

it would have been impossible to do.

Yeah, I can't.

You can't.

I'm a one-take guy.

Right.

You can't produce gold like that.

But, Max, how can you tell me?

Because we didn't talk after.

On a scale of one to 10, 10, it's gone.

It's never coming back to one.

We're okay.

Where did it get to the worst?

The worst for me it got was it didn't work on memes' computer and I was like some oh sometimes cards are weird for certain computers.

And then we tried it on my computer, and it didn't work, and then I got really nervous.

What was that at?

What was that?

That was at like a,

well, I never got too high because whenever something like this happens, it's just call Quiggs.

Call Quigs.

And I called Quiggs, and the first thing he asked was, can you see the size of the file?

And I was like, yes, it's like the file size makes complete sense.

He was like, that's a great sign.

If the file size was too small, then it would have been gone forever.

But as soon as he said that, I felt pretty good.

Memes was freaking out throughout the entirety of it.

Was it your fault, memes, when or were you going to get it?

No, I know it's nobody's fault, but who's going to get the blame

if it had been gone?

It was tense.

We were just sitting here like, and there's nothing I can do.

I don't know shit about any of this.

I felt bad for you guys.

I guess me.

No, it would have.

It was just the

we were working with faulty equipment that day, which it's

on days like, so

to put it into perspective, we bring this road kit, which is completely different than what we have in our studio.

It's like very small so that we can travel and like keep everything together.

So we woke up at like 5.30 that morning, took a flight, filmed a round of golf, ate dinner, and then immediately it's like, all right, you have to go.

You have very little time to really test or do anything.

So we went and

we even tested, like, we tested the card for like five minutes and everything was fine.

And then we recorded and for some reason, when we recorded the actual show, something got fucked up.

I think I slept for an hour

that night.

And memes, I think, slept for, what,

two?

Three?

I got three hours.

Three hours.

That's crazy.

And then we've just been up since 6 a.m.

I saw you guys at the golf course at like 7 o'clock.

I was like, holy shit, you guys didn't sleep.

Yeah, so we're basically memes and i are just basically running on zero sleep right now boys so yeah i wanted to more defend you guys because i know obviously people we have the best fans ever but they they're like where's the show where's the show whenever we're on the road just know it might come out a little later because they also deal with wi-fi and getting the shows up we were the we also we're always working with hotel wi-fi that is like a quarter of the of the speed that it is like in our normal studio yeah when when max when there's a delay putting the show out when we're out of the studio, that's because Max is doing it intentionally to mess with the listeners.

But we're on the road, he's actually getting it out as soon as he possibly can.

That's correct.

What was the conversation like between you guys to try to figure out

how you would break the news in terms of whose fault it would be if it was lost?

Pete's fault then.

Pete, yeah.

Yeah.

Normally, when it's something was fucked up with the

I don't even know what happened.

Like, we still don't know what happened.

I talked to Pete.

He has no idea what happened.

Well, it was also two projects.

Yeah, it was very funny because Hank's spidey sense as a former producer, still producer, but former producer as well.

Uh, he saw it before I saw it.

Like, he saw them just talking, and he's like, There's a problem, he knows what the hush tones mean.

Yeah, I mean, that's happened to me many times,

and it's the worst, yeah.

So, shout out to guys, shout out to the boys behind the cameras.

Uh, shout out, Zach, Zach, Firefest, big shout out to Maxim Eames.

Uh, I do, I do have a show one for you guys.

Are you guys familiar with the Liver King?

Yeah, you know.

Big steroids, fake abs, the whole thing.

Eat raw liver, eat the raw steak.

We're in the documentary.

Recurring guests?

Yeah, he came up with a dog.

It's a document.

It's huge.

Did you guys see that he was arrested for being a terrorist?

And, well, not being a terrorist.

Terroristic threats.

Telling Joe Rogan that we're going to drive to the house.

Maybe two to the chest, one to the head, maybe a fist fight, altercation situation.

Yes.

Kind of soft.

My firefest goes to him.

Bail, $20,000.

Also, he can't be within 200 yards of the Rogan family.

Also, cannot own any firearms.

So full mental breakdown.

Wait.

wait don't eat raw meat is your fire fest are you like a big liver king I'm not a big liver king guy I would just like to say don't eat raw meat because of that's what can happen you might even have a psychotic break you might try to eat more carbs and less protein yeah yeah you could that's actually a good point this is it's kind of sad that like you know we live in the era of the true philosopher king with Joe Rogan and Liver King, two of our brightest minds and biggest health advocates.

And to see one of them go off the deep end like that,

I don't take any pleasure in it, but I would like to see the fight happen.

Yeah.

Right?

I think Joe Rogan would fuck him up.

I think he takes me quick, yeah.

You think so?

Yeah, he's a black kid.

Black Pelt Jiu-Jitsu.

Well, the only thing I Liver King smells so bad that Joe Rogan might get choked out by his odor.

True.

I gotta say, I did not see the downfall of Liver King happening.

I thought that guy was really headed all together.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

I really thought he was just going to keep

Liver King.

In no way, when we interviewed him, was I like, oh, yeah.

We are going to find out it was some like weird deer parasite that only exists in like elk that are found in southern Texas.

This guy,

Zach is right.

If you want to stay healthy, you got to eat carbs and anything that's been like highly manufactured.

High fruit toasted corn syrup, red 40.

Yeah, keep your mind right.

Yeah.

I had dinner with him.

You had dinner with him?

I went to his

farm and had dinner,

like the gross, like the gross dinners that he has.

Wait, you had to eat raw meat?

It wasn't raw meat.

It wasn't raw raw meat.

It was just very much paleo to the nth degree of like, it tasted like, I feel bad because he has like a private chef that like made the meal, but it tasted terrible.

It was when I was working for Caleb for Sunday conversation for Sunday Conversation.

We interviewed him and then we ate dinner with him, and it was like one of the most bizarre things ever.

Being Liver King's chef, that doesn't involve a lot of work, does it?

No, you're a butcher.

He tried so hard to get us to eat

the testicles, and

no one ate them.

Good thing you didn't.

You would have been maybe trying to be a terrorist towards Joe Rogan.

Yeah.

So it could be a deer parasite, but based on one of the videos that he put out the other day, I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe some methamphetamines might be.

Yeah, his eyes were

wonky.

Anytime you got more than two wounds on your face, I automatically think you're doing biker crank.

Yeah, you got some weird shit going on.

All right, so yeah.

Eat more carbs.

Eat more carbs.

Stay healthy.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good show, boys.

Let's finish with lottery ball back in the studio.

Okay, we're back in the studio for lottery balls.

Sending you off on Friday.

Reminder, we have Dungeon and Dragons on Monday, and then we have Dingers Only, Zach Gallen, and Meryl Kelly, and Joey Chestnut on Wednesday.

Numbers.

Three.

And so that's the schedule next week.

We don't have a show on Friday.

99.

Memes was late for that because he was showing showing me a face swap that he did of me.

He was like, looking.

I'm going to go six.

Oh, wait.

Is that.

Yeah, I had to put Florio's face on Wind Horse.

That makes sense.

I didn't look at it too.

It does kind of look like you.

Yeah.

I just assumed that all of those are me.

Yeah.

All right.

What do you guys got in there?

AO11.

Okay.

I picked that before.

Okay.

I thought this was you.

Well, I didn't.

I said it briefly.

It doesn't look like you at all.

I looked at it briefly.

Whatever.

That's on me.

Zach?

I'll go 19.

Okay.

Max?

I forgot.

I think I said 6.

Did someone say 6?

I said 6.

Yeah, I said 6.

Someone says 99?

Yeah, I said 99.

Did someone say 3?

Yes, someone said 3.

How about 24?

Okay.

44!

I've been meaning to

take 44.

That was gonna be my next pick, too.

Zach, did you pick 44 last time?

No, 44 hit.

44 changes.

Yeah.

That's it.

Love you guys.

Say it one more time.

Love you guys.

Love you too.