Smylie Kaufman Talking PGA Championship, Knicks Whomp The Celtics, Thunder To The WCF, Miami Marlins Kyle Stowers And Tyler Phillips In Studio And A Goodbye To Mr Bing Bong

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Speaker 2 Today is part of my take.

Speaker 16 We've got a ton of sports to talk about.

Speaker 17 A lot of sports this weekend.

Speaker 19 We're going to talk about NBA playoffs.

Speaker 17 We had some duds in game sevens.

Speaker 20 We had the preakness, which was incredible.

Speaker 21 Celtics Knicks are over.

Speaker 18 We're going to get our thoughts from Hank from Friday night. We got a great interview with Smiley Kaufman talking PGA championship.

Speaker 28 Scotty Scheffler is back in the winner's circle.

Speaker 18 He's got his third major.

Speaker 2 We also have a really fun interview with Kyle Stowers and Tyler Phillips from the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 4 They came into the studio last week.

Speaker 16 Awesome dudes.

Speaker 34 A little baseball talk.

Speaker 35 I think we're going to hit everything. We're going to hit all the sports today.

Speaker 36 Let's see. We got hockey, baseball, basketball, golf, horses.

Speaker 26 Horses.

Speaker 11 We'll have to talk some football.

Speaker 37 We'll figure out some football.

Speaker 38 So, and Max's bachelor party recap after the interviews.

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Speaker 50 Today is Monday, May 19th.

Speaker 29 And holy shit, we got sports, baby.

Speaker 36 Game seven weekend.

Speaker 52 Duds.

Speaker 36 The anticipation for the game seven is way better than the actual game sevens. This is making me disagree with LeBron's take.
And he's the first person I've ever heard say this.

Speaker 36 The two best words in sports, game seven. Yes.
That actually,

Speaker 36 this kind of puts me back onto game sixes. I might be a game six guy.

Speaker 1 Listen, game game sevens are great.

Speaker 53 Game seven duds, I don't even want there to be a game seven when it happens.

Speaker 16 And we had two of them on Sunday.

Speaker 6 I agree with you.

Speaker 2 Game sixes may be more important.

Speaker 17 Did we have any game sixes?

Speaker 36 That's the new game seven. The new game seven.

Speaker 25 Hank, what would you like to talk about first?

Speaker 2 Because we have every sport.

Speaker 55 We're literally going to talk about

Speaker 56 Scotty Shappa. WNBA.

Speaker 57 Well, I had WNBA on there.

Speaker 58 We have everything.

Speaker 59 You want to start with Scotty or do you want to start with basketball?

Speaker 20 I feel like major championship or game sevens.

Speaker 61 That's pretty easy. You know, one of those two.

Speaker 36 What about your game seven that you had, Hank?

Speaker 63 Didn't have a game seven.

Speaker 64 Oh, why not?

Speaker 65 It's Monday night.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay.

Speaker 61 So the Celtics lost. No, you want to start.

Speaker 10 You want to start with MBA?

Speaker 61 I don't know if it's, but yeah, sure. Let's see.
No, let's

Speaker 10 easily get off. Let's just get easy.
Let's go. Let's get started with Bandaid off.

Speaker 67 Let's do it.

Speaker 68 Let's do it.

Speaker 10 No, no.

Speaker 36 Hank is so egotistical that he thought that we were talking about the Celtics this whole time.

Speaker 26 No, we were talking about the Thunder and the Nuggets, and we were talking about this Game 7.

Speaker 70 Yeah, we were talking about Scotty.

Speaker 55 Let's wait.

Speaker 11 Okay, let's wait.

Speaker 37 Okay, great.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about the Game Sevens today.

Speaker 70 Let's talk about the Thunder Nuggets.

Speaker 46 By the way, I should have started the show.

Speaker 17 Parody is back. NBA Parody is officially back.

Speaker 16 This now, with the Thunder beating the Nuggets in Game 7, there are going to be, it's guaranteed seven different champions in seven different years in the NBA.

Speaker 16 And we also have the chance for two franchises who've never won a title in Indiana and

Speaker 19 Minnesota. I guess actually three because

Speaker 17 I don't think OKC claims any of Seattle's history.

Speaker 55 Well, even Kevin Durant's.

Speaker 39 Yeah, Kevin Durant.

Speaker 28 And then the Knicks last title was 52 years ago.

Speaker 46 So no matter what, the final four

Speaker 76 in the NBA, we're going to get a new champion

Speaker 11 for half a century.

Speaker 36 I don't think that Seattle would allow OKC to claim any of their past successes. Correct.
I think they'd put up a pretty big fight for that.

Speaker 53 Right.

Speaker 2 It's obviously the same franchise, but it's not.

Speaker 79 So we're going to say three out of four have never won a title, and the fourth is the New York Knicks, who haven't won a title in 52 years.

Speaker 81 So parody is back, and it's just kind of cool because out of maybe a passing of the torch, SGA, Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton, one of those four is going to win their first NBA title.

Speaker 36 It is pretty cool. It is pretty cool.
And the Thunder, it looked like the series was just too long for the Nuggets. They were too old, too banged up.

Speaker 36 Aaron Gordon was playing on one and a half legs pretty much. He couldn't jump off his left leg.

Speaker 29 What a beast. He's a beast.

Speaker 16 And by the way, just to put it into perspective, Aaron Gordon played in game seven with a grade two Hammy.

Speaker 7 And if the Lakers were in this game, LeBron would still be two weeks away from coming back.

Speaker 16 It's true.

Speaker 48 Because LeBron remembered when he got hurt in the last game of the Lakers season,

Speaker 48 for some reason put out a timetable for his return, which no one needed or asked for.

Speaker 36 Right. So the hypothetical return, if they had won, here's what I would be able to do.
Steph Curry had the same injury, didn't play at all.

Speaker 62 It's true.

Speaker 36 I missed a softball game with the same injury.

Speaker 36 These are all like elite athletes that aren't able to will themselves to do it. And somehow Aaron Gordon was.

Speaker 84 He led the game in rebounds.

Speaker 36 Pretty incredible. And the final score won't tell you the full story because up until about three minutes left in the first half, it was a one-point game.

Speaker 36 And it looked like it was going to be a defensive struggle. Looked like it was going to be an ugly game.

Speaker 36 The exact kind of game that I think the Nuggets would want to be in, that they might have a chance to win. And then then in the last three minutes of that first half, it all fell apart.
And

Speaker 36 I believe it was 42-41 with three minutes left in the second. Well, and then Oklahoma City went on an 18-5 run to close out the half, and then it was just never closed from that point.

Speaker 81 Yeah, I was going to say, it all fell apart for the Nuggets.

Speaker 38 It all fell into plan for the Thunder.

Speaker 38 I feel like this series was the Thunder growing up in front of our eyes because they had, in this series, they had the game three overtime game where it was like, ooh, is this moment too big for them?

Speaker 31 Then they come back, have the game four and five wins.

Speaker 17 Don't close it out in Denver, game six, and then even in game seven, the way this game started, they were down 10 almost like instantly.

Speaker 32 And you're like, uh-oh, are they getting a little tight?

Speaker 39 Is this like a championship DNA kind of game?

Speaker 49 And then the Thunder, again, grow up.

Speaker 19 And like, that's a game where they're deep.

Speaker 45 They play defense like, I mean, it's insane watching them play defense.

Speaker 17 They are so good as a unit.

Speaker 45 Caruso is such a menace.

Speaker 17 There's a little bit. I know there's a lot of argument about fouls and all this.

Speaker 46 I enjoyed watching because I feel like Jokic and Caruso were going back and forth.

Speaker 31 Like, they were both kind of being very physical. And I do think the Thunder have a little bit of the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 90 There's our football talk of like they can't call everything.

Speaker 72 But Caruso was such a tone setter and so good.

Speaker 91 And I threw out there on Thursday night, I believe, that he's so underrated.

Speaker 78 And someone was like, dude, he's not underrated.

Speaker 92 He's, you know, been all defense a couple times.

Speaker 20 And I was thinking about it.

Speaker 2 He is underrated because two franchises basically got rid of Caruso for nothing.

Speaker 46 The Lakers let him walk because they were cheap and didn't want to go in the luxury tax.

Speaker 17 And the Bulls didn't get a pick for him, even though they should have because the Thunder, I think, have 7 billion picks.

Speaker 29 And Alex Crusoe is like,

Speaker 81 Thunder are great as a team.

Speaker 88 And Alex Crusoe just takes that defense intensity to another level.

Speaker 2 And they are so fucking ferocious defensively.

Speaker 16 And shout out to SGA because I feel like he grew up as well.

Speaker 31 He went games 5, 6, and 7, 31 points, 32 points, 35 points.

Speaker 88 And he went game 5, 52% from the field, then game 6, 68% from the field, game 7, 63% from the field.

Speaker 3 The best player on the Thunder stepped up his game when they needed him to.

Speaker 4 And they had like, you know, the role players step up today.

Speaker 83 The Thunder are so good.

Speaker 88 They are such a good team.

Speaker 95 And I don't even know, like, I don't even know where to start with the Thunder Thunder versus Wolves because both defenses are just going to eat each other alive.

Speaker 62 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 36 it was one of those games where Caruso, as a defender, proved that he's worth everything that you're paying him and then some.

Speaker 36 And I feel like the games that the Thunder as a team do really well are the games where Caruso is not a top scorer on the team. You know,

Speaker 36 the Alex Caruso games, I think we talked about them losing one of the Alex Caruso games.

Speaker 46 Yeah, where he tried to bring him back at the end of the game.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Yeah, when he's just like fighting people in the background, when he's playing hard defense, those are the games that fall into place for the Thunder. Yeah, they did kind of grow up.

Speaker 36 But again, it was a close game.

Speaker 36 It was a very close game until the end of the first half.

Speaker 1 But can you call it a close game if it was only a close game for less than a half?

Speaker 18 No, it was.

Speaker 60 I don't think you can.

Speaker 36 I'm going to say it was a close game until that's back to my point about just it being a long series for the older team. Yeah.
And they seemed to just run out of all the gas that they had stored up.

Speaker 10 Well, I mean, the Thunder are a better team.

Speaker 45 They were a better team.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 45 you go back to that game three.

Speaker 45 That's a game they could have have won, should have won.

Speaker 82 And it could have been, like, I do give the Nuggets a ton of credit for even getting to game seven because I do think they were overmatched, and they have a lot of questions going into this offseason because it's like, you got to get more help for Jokic.

Speaker 46 But Jokic, we love Jokic on this podcast.

Speaker 97 He's awesome.

Speaker 35 He could have played better this series.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 96 And I know that he needs probably

Speaker 28 a little more spacing and some more help.

Speaker 71 But games four, he only took nine shots today.

Speaker 19 He was at the free throw line a lot.

Speaker 17 But game four and game seven, and again, this is all relative because Jokic, even in a bad game, still impacts the game in a way that few people do.

Speaker 46 But I think it's fair to hold him to the standard of best player in the world.

Speaker 39 And if he was the best player in the world, game four and seven, he could have played better and they could have won this series.

Speaker 36 Yeah, what do you have 20 points today? Yeah. Yeah, 20.
He has like flashes in these series where he'll like explode for 40, but he did not play up to his own standards.

Speaker 17 And that's a lot of credit to the Thunder because they had him in a torture chamber.

Speaker 36 Yeah, when Caruso was just banging with him down low, Jokic, he said, like, my last resort is I'm going to have to flop against Alex Caruso. Yeah.
And he got rewarded for it a little bit, but yeah,

Speaker 36 he was in a bad spot. He couldn't get it done all by himself.
And Aaron Gordon, I think that was the big difference in this game because going into this game.

Speaker 65 Well,

Speaker 3 the Nuggets wouldn't have won with the healthier Aaron Gordon. They lost by 35 points.

Speaker 36 Yeah, but I'm saying into this game, the Nuggets were plus 32 with Gordon on the court and minus 68 when he was not on the court. Yeah.
So it makes a difference. Of course.

Speaker 36 I'm trying to give a little bit of context. Obviously, the Thunder were the better team in this series.
It went seven. So it's not like it was a blowout one way or the other.

Speaker 36 It was a dominant game seven performance for sure. But in context, I think that it was a closer series than we're making it seem when we say that, like,

Speaker 36 Jokic sucked.

Speaker 68 No, no, I didn't say Jokic sucked.

Speaker 101 Yeah.

Speaker 59 I said Jokic,

Speaker 31 if he's the best player in the world, he had two games in this series that if he had played better, they would have probably won the series.

Speaker 32 And again, he needs more help around him.

Speaker 17 I'm more saying like the conversation of Jokic is best player in the world. Best player in the world can sometimes be like, I'm going to take over this series and win this series.

Speaker 70 Yeah, he didn't do that. And that didn't happen.

Speaker 97 He did not suck.

Speaker 17 Although game four, he sucked.

Speaker 7 He was like seven for 22.

Speaker 38 And again, I think it's the Thunder defense.

Speaker 16 They are so good defensively.

Speaker 65 And, yeah, I mean, remember game one because that feels like forever ago.

Speaker 38 That was a game the Thunder almost won and then, you know, crazy heroics at the end.

Speaker 36 They lucked into that one, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so

Speaker 77 I feel like the story of this series is

Speaker 40 not as much as like, oh man, the Nuggets are right there.

Speaker 16 I feel like it's the Thunder grew up and like the demons of going through the wars in a playoffs and being a young team, they almost like speed ran it in this series alone.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I have no idea what to expect at all from the Timberwolves Nuggets or Timberwolves Thunder series because

Speaker 36 both teams play great defense. Both teams have emerging superstars that you think that you can trust, that are fun to watch when they're great.

Speaker 36 But one of the guys is going to be obviously able to elevate their game to a next level and the other's not.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 68 And it's really going to be,

Speaker 36 I have no idea which one's going to be.

Speaker 84 I think it's going to come down to the guys around him.

Speaker 16 Like Jalen Williams today was awesome. And that's what the Thunder need is like the second guy who can step up.

Speaker 18 And Julius Randall has been awesome.

Speaker 45 So it's like

Speaker 6 the Wolves feel like like they might have that.

Speaker 40 Did you guys see Jokic's quotes after?

Speaker 75 I liked it. He had two that I really enjoyed.

Speaker 3 One was

Speaker 48 he was asked how this offseason would be compared to last offseason.

Speaker 75 He said the next couple of days is going to be a lot of beer, probably.

Speaker 78 Okay.

Speaker 82 Which, okay, that's relatable.

Speaker 92 There's a lot of beer.

Speaker 50 And then I really like this one.

Speaker 89 He was, because this happens with every team

Speaker 17 when they lose, they get asked about like, you know, window and all this stuff.

Speaker 88 So they asked him if this team can win a title. and he said, we didn't.

Speaker 39 I don't believe in if stuff.

Speaker 64 There it is.

Speaker 4 They didn't win a title.

Speaker 17 You can't be like, can they win a title?

Speaker 78 They didn't win a title.

Speaker 36 Yeah, no, they'll have to make some changes. Yeah.

Speaker 32 But I really wish this game was better.

Speaker 16 That's all.

Speaker 36 Game seven. Scott Foster didn't do his fucking job.
That's my problem.

Speaker 40 Game sevens are, they need to, they need to always deliver.

Speaker 36 We don't talk enough about the bad game sevens.

Speaker 45 The bad game sevens are the biggest bummer.

Speaker 36 There were a couple bad game sevens today.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Although, credit to the thunder, I want to say for anyone who had one TV, they did do a good job of

Speaker 88 making it a no-doubter at the end of the first half and in the third quarter so that everyone could switch to the PGA championship.

Speaker 45 That's for one TV guys.

Speaker 36 The problem was the PGA also became a no-doubter at the same time that the basketball became a no-doubter.

Speaker 86 Should we do our PGA recap right now?

Speaker 25 We can do that.

Speaker 36 I was going to say, embrace debate, big cat.

Speaker 36 Is it better to lose in game six, like get the shit kicked out of you, get your teeth stomped in, get your guts pulled out of your belly button, or then to go on to lose game seven and get the shit kicked out of you?

Speaker 45 How bad do you lose in game six?

Speaker 36 Game six is really bad.

Speaker 60 Like, it's worse.

Speaker 45 It's the worst loss for a defending champion in an elimination game ever.

Speaker 36 Yeah, but it's also on a Friday, so it's kind of like a news dump. Got it.
But Sunday is in front of the world.

Speaker 41 Got it.

Speaker 3 Max, you didn't know that's that.

Speaker 109 No, that's a good stat.

Speaker 109 Let's do PGA.

Speaker 36 Okay, let's suck off.

Speaker 110 PGA.

Speaker 50 All right, so Scotty Scheffler, incredible.

Speaker 50 So I was thinking about it.

Speaker 59 Do you think

Speaker 31 there's probably a few guys out there who timed their nap where they never thought this tournament was ever in doubt?

Speaker 39 Because they basically timed their nap and fell asleep in the middle portion of the day when John Rahm tied it. And then they woke up and John Rahm was like six shots back.

Speaker 99 You're like, oh, yeah, I knew.

Speaker 31 Perfect nap. There was no

Speaker 28 knew that Scotty Schoffler was going to run away with it.

Speaker 36 There was no drama whatsoever in this for that guy. Yeah.
It was tied. It was, in fact, tied.
And it was like, oh, shit, is Scotty going to melt down? Is he going to fall apart?

Speaker 36 Had a couple bad bogeys on the front nine. And then Rahm looked like he was being mentally strong.
Yeah. And then everything bad possible happened to John Rahm.

Speaker 36 And Scotty just kept being Scotty, just dialed in.

Speaker 36 There was, we're going to get into it with Smiley in a little bit.

Speaker 45 We would do a full recap of Smiley.

Speaker 36 There was some controversy about Rory's driver and his driver face, but we have an update to that now, big case. Oh, okay.

Speaker 36 We have an update to the driver that was pulled from Rory because the face was too thin on it.

Speaker 36 Scheffler, Scotty Scheffler, the champion, just admitted that his driver was also tested this week and did not comply, that he needed to switch drivers before the tournament. Wow.

Speaker 36 And he said, if we're going to do it right, we need to be more robust, even test guys every single week. Wow.
Every driver tested every single day. But he won.

Speaker 36 But he won, but he talked to the media about getting the driver taken. He did not use the bad driver in this tournament.

Speaker 83 Huh.

Speaker 36 Interesting. Just an interesting point of fact.

Speaker 17 I feel very vindicated that we rooted against Rory for the Masters after he didn't talk to the media any of the days.

Speaker 5 That should be illegal.

Speaker 25 You have to talk to the media.

Speaker 55 We do your job.

Speaker 11 Or are we going to do our job?

Speaker 36 Yeah, listen, we are actually the reason why professional golfers exist. Yeah.
Is us talking about the golfers that exist.

Speaker 17 I love watching Scotty win. He's the man.

Speaker 90 It also just...

Speaker 95 Like, from a personal perspective, the fact that he's intimately knowledgeable of Stu Feiner just makes it even better.

Speaker 68 I was thinking about that.

Speaker 17 Oh, I think about it every time he's leading in a big tournament.

Speaker 83 I'm just like, this guy fucking watches Stu Feiner say, eat-ass, lick, clit.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Also, before going to church.

Speaker 36 Massive respect to Mrs. Scheffler because after Scotty makes the final putt on 18, the first thing she does, she's like, you take the baby.
Yeah. Like immediately.

Speaker 36 She's like, I've been carrying this baby around all day. You take the baby.
He's your thing to deal with now.

Speaker 36 And then Scotty takes him into the clubhouse and has to distract him with a hat and like another toy. Be like, hey, just focus on this real quick.

Speaker 36 I have to sign my scorecard for for this major championship to count.

Speaker 36 Can you just look at this hat for a sec?

Speaker 30 The most relatable dad moment because you do, like, I remember once I was in a car with my kids and they were screaming bloody murder, and I got one of them to stop by just handing them a bottle, and they just, like, were just playing with the actual empty bottle.

Speaker 3 They just look at it.

Speaker 17 That was Scotty Scheffler being like, dude, notebook hat.

Speaker 20 Those are your toys for the next three minutes.

Speaker 78 You got this. Yeah.

Speaker 35 And that will distract the kid for about three minutes, and then you got to find something else.

Speaker 36 I've done that before, but with remotes, where I'm like, here, look at this remote. And then they just pick it up and start hitting all the buttons for it.

Speaker 48 Remotes are dicey, though, because then you just change everything on your TV.

Speaker 36 Yeah, well, it wasn't my TV, so it was like free play.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 35 But it was an awesome tournament.

Speaker 31 Hank, did you have any thoughts on the tournament? Yeah.

Speaker 101 It was an awesome tournament for Scotty.

Speaker 45 It wasn't an awesome tournament in terms of like drama.

Speaker 61 No, not a lot of good drama. I mean, Scotty going five under in his last five holes yesterday.

Speaker 61 Like, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who were like, all right, you know, they finished their round maybe a couple, a couple of holes ahead of Scotty. Like, all right, I got a shot at this.

Speaker 61 And then they just see him come in five under four shot lead going into Sunday. Like, it's over.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 61 Wanted John Rom to come back.

Speaker 61 I wanted to be closer just for just for the drama. But I like seeing Scotty win.

Speaker 36 Yeah. I mean, on Sunday morning, when you can bet on it online, it was, you couldn't even really bet on Scotty.
The odds were just so crazy.

Speaker 31 It was minus 450.

Speaker 36 The first odd that was that was at the top of the screen was who is going to finish in second today? Yeah. And that became the new champion that you could bet on.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 And it was all, I mean, we will talk about it with smiley, but I was, Scotty

Speaker 34 was in like seventh place and he was plus 250.

Speaker 17 And I was just like, this, it's just, it's almost like they knew.

Speaker 39 Scotty's coming and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 36 And he was pumped when he won.

Speaker 68 Let us scream.

Speaker 82 Kind of, remember I said I got a little

Speaker 82 hate for my take that Scotty had that moment in the Butler cabin where he was like, oh, it's on now.

Speaker 44 Because people were like, like, no, dude, he just wanted to get out of there and didn't want to take away from Rory's moment.

Speaker 48 I was like, this might be the fuck you tour from Scotty.

Speaker 78 Looks like it might be on.

Speaker 25 He looks pretty good. Looks like it might be on.

Speaker 56 Golden Slam.

Speaker 61 That'd be pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 36 I've watched every major championship for the last, I'm going to say, 15 years.

Speaker 36 I had forgotten that Scotty had only won two. Yeah.
It felt like he had won four, right?

Speaker 40 Because he wins everything else.

Speaker 36 I know, he wins every other thing, and he's won two masters, and he's so dominant when he wins that you're just like, this guy is clearly the best golfer in the sport.

Speaker 36 I had completely forgotten that he had only won two. I knew he had the two masters.
I thought maybe, I don't know, maybe he had sprinkled in a PGA or U.S. Open at some point.
But yeah,

Speaker 36 if there's one knock against Scotty Scheffler, how is he so good? He's only won three.

Speaker 46 Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 91 The other part with Scotty is he looks like he's 40 years old. He's 28.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 25 That's what fucks everyone up.

Speaker 29 And you're just like, you see, he has looked like he's a 40-year-old man.

Speaker 38 And I don't say that in a disrespectful way.

Speaker 16 He just has like a, he's kind of got like an air to him where it's like he's he's 12 years younger than us, and I would call him sir.

Speaker 110 What really is that?

Speaker 61 I was 20, 22, like, yeah,

Speaker 6 right.

Speaker 40 He's only, yeah, 20, yeah, 22 major starts.

Speaker 91 He's won three of them.

Speaker 36 Crazy. So he's only, what's his age again?

Speaker 46 He's 28.

Speaker 114 He's going to be 29 in a month. Okay.

Speaker 36 And John Rahm is how old?

Speaker 83 John Rahm is also a sneaky.

Speaker 36 John Rahm, I think he's 30.

Speaker 61 He's probably like 31.

Speaker 36 John Rahm is 30.

Speaker 36 So John Rahm is younger than Hank. Yeah.
And Scotty is younger than Max.

Speaker 55 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 31 I mean, the young guns. Scotty has looked, yeah.

Speaker 33 He's just, he's just, he's had a man look about him.

Speaker 71 I don't know what it is. I think it's the beard.

Speaker 36 It's the size. It's the size.

Speaker 2 John Rahm's same thing.

Speaker 36 Yeah, but John Rahm's got one of those faces that he could pass as like 45, I think.

Speaker 40 They just got size to him.

Speaker 87 I got heft. Scotty.

Speaker 36 Density. Scotty's also just too mature for his age.
Yeah. That too.
Do you think we're going to get a period where Scotty just goes absolutely wild?

Speaker 62 No.

Speaker 36 You don't think so? I would say no. I think we're going to get a period where Scotty, like,

Speaker 36 it would be like two bottles of wine. Two bottles of wine.

Speaker 19 I guess, listen, we like Scotty, friend of the program, current guests.

Speaker 115 I guess you can't ever say no because if you had the same conversation about Tiger Woods in like 2006, people would be like, no way.

Speaker 36 I don't know.

Speaker 6 But that's the truth.

Speaker 5 That was his shit. That was

Speaker 36 Marian Supermoder.

Speaker 59 I think Scotty

Speaker 40 is a pretty safe bet that he.

Speaker 116 I feel like Scotty has like five best friends that he gets fucked up with, and they're they're those best friends don't even tell anyone that they're best friends with Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 106 Like, that's how, how good of like an inner circle he has.

Speaker 36 Yeah, if I was a sponsor, I would be just looking at Scotty Scheffler, take all my money, but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 46 Like, Tiger did kind of ruin the whole everybody's good, everyone, no matter what, you're good to say that nothing will ever, you know, be bad about this.

Speaker 36 I mean, if we had had this exact same conversation, Big Cat, a year and a week ago, and we were to say, Scotty Scheffler, lifetime odds to ever be arrested. True.

Speaker 36 Plus $500,000, we would say, yeah, don't take that bet.

Speaker 50 Yeah, this was his revenge.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was.

Speaker 99 Yeah, Nike put out an ad, best golfer in the world.

Speaker 19 Question mark, guilty.

Speaker 39 Pretty good ad.

Speaker 3 Pretty good ad.

Speaker 2 All right, so that was PGA.

Speaker 44 Do you want to talk about...

Speaker 61 This game seven just ended.

Speaker 56 Oh, Florida, Toronto? Florida, Toronto, yeah.

Speaker 93 Yeah, bad game seven.

Speaker 36 Do you want to do hockey?

Speaker 35 Well, this game just ended. All right, we'll do hockey.
Let's do hockey. Okay.

Speaker 36 Yeah, yeah. Hank's just betting on that volcano in Yellowstone to erupt at some point before we get to the Celtics.

Speaker 10 Running out the clock.

Speaker 42 Hockey.

Speaker 11 Leafs.

Speaker 80 Turns out it wasn't their year.

Speaker 36 Not their year.

Speaker 36 Panthers look great. The first period, Leafs were okay, but

Speaker 36 once that ref got his face caved in by a stick, everything just tilted towards the Panthers. And the thing about the Leafs is

Speaker 36 if you get two quick goals on them, they just crumble. Oh, yeah.
They turn into the biggest pile of snot that you you could see.

Speaker 46 I feel like, though, even in the first period, the Leafs were kind of holding on.

Speaker 40 Whereas, like, you saw the shots

Speaker 16 in the zone.

Speaker 19 Like, the Panthers felt like it was not an if, just when.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 99 the Panthers are a better team than the Leafs.

Speaker 117 They are.

Speaker 39 They just won a cup.

Speaker 76 They played perfect hockey tonight.

Speaker 88 This was about as perfect of a game seven as you can play.

Speaker 49 Doesn't help

Speaker 116 Leafs fans dealing with this loss, but I don't think you can.

Speaker 40 This wasn't one of those Leafs choked, ha ha, Leafs choked seasons.

Speaker 88 They played a better team and went to seven games and lost.

Speaker 36 Yeah, Marshawn turns out was a great pickup by the Panthers. Yeah.

Speaker 17 And then we also had the Stars.

Speaker 36 What team let him go?

Speaker 61 The Bruins traded him.

Speaker 107 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 We also had

Speaker 72 the Stars.

Speaker 16 Awesome. The Stars are very good.

Speaker 88 They finished that in six against the Jets.

Speaker 44 Overtime winner, which

Speaker 91 overtime winner to finish a series at home.

Speaker 3 What a moment that has to feel.

Speaker 36 Pretty incredible.

Speaker 3 The barn was rocking.

Speaker 36 Pretty tough loss to bounce back from with a handshake line. Yeah.
But you got to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Got to do it. Got to always do it.

Speaker 3 And now I'm outside of Carolina.

Speaker 115 No offense to the Carolina Hurricanes, but after watching them play against your caps, I don't like watching them play hockey.

Speaker 62 Yep, that's fair.

Speaker 90 I'm very excited for Stars Oilers.

Speaker 48 That's going to be awesome.

Speaker 17 And I'm excited that Biz is going to get his life back.

Speaker 92 And maybe we'll like...

Speaker 29 Did you see?

Speaker 15 So we're going to have Biz on Wednesday's show to talk about the conference finals.

Speaker 17 Credit to TNT because they just let Biz do whatever he wanted.

Speaker 88 He was before the game tonight, he had a candlelight vigil for the Maple Leafs.

Speaker 23 And he was lighting the leafs each candle being like, got to get Marner going, light the candle.

Speaker 17 If that was your first time tuning into hockey, you're like, this guy has lost.

Speaker 37 his complete mind. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Listen. But it was great TV.

Speaker 36 He's like a fan, except he's only really been a fan of the team for a couple seasons. Yeah.
But he's gotten like off the deep end for him.

Speaker 36 I do think that the Leafs discussion is going to be interesting this offseason because they cannot come back with that same team. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 44 Again, the Panthers are so good.

Speaker 11 They are, Bob. Bob was

Speaker 10 locked in.

Speaker 11 Locked in.

Speaker 17 I thought for a second Oldie might have saved the Leafs going down to Florida for game six.

Speaker 36 That was bullshit that they kicked Oldie out.

Speaker 59 Did they actually kick him out?

Speaker 40 Because he shook hands with the police officer.

Speaker 36 That's because he is the best at neutralizing any situation of anybody that I've ever met in my child.

Speaker 36 True, like the cop went down there, he's like, Hey, yeah, we've heard some complaints that there was a guy demonstrating side pouch up against the glass. We're gonna have to kick you out, sir.

Speaker 36 And then by the time they got to the top of the steps, the cop was probably like, Hey, you want to come to my kid's birthday? Yeah, you seem like a fun guy.

Speaker 25 I think he just got moved.

Speaker 2 I think his sections got moved.

Speaker 17 I don't think he actually got kicked out because he is that good.

Speaker 48 Yeah, he can neutralize anyone.

Speaker 3 Um,

Speaker 48 what else, Hank?

Speaker 86 Oh, breakness.

Speaker 10 I was gonna say incredible.

Speaker 61 I think the uh, the Mark Schifley, Shifley story of the Jets, that was some things are bigger than sports. Big time.
His dad unexpectedly passed away before the game. He scored a play, scored a goal.

Speaker 61 I know. Handshake line after the game was Waterwork City.

Speaker 61 That was one of the, I mean,

Speaker 61 best, like, tears in your eyes handshake lines I've seen in a while.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I mean, that's unreal that he was able to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 115 To play in that game.

Speaker 57 It's crazy.

Speaker 10 Bigger than sports.

Speaker 102 A lot of things are bigger than sports.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Perspective. Did you watch the preakness?

Speaker 61 I did watch the preakness.

Speaker 17 Journalism, maybe the coolest stretch run there ever.

Speaker 23 He got fucking bought.

Speaker 39 He got form tackled.

Speaker 10 Horse form tackled.

Speaker 61 The guy, the caddy cheetah, not the catty cheetah.

Speaker 41 Yeah, the caddy.

Speaker 57 Yeah, no, you got it.

Speaker 10 The caddy.

Speaker 61 The jockey? Yeah. Yeah.
Was that just haters?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 86 No, there was some bumping and grinding.

Speaker 36 Yeah, it's how we, it's old school horse racing.

Speaker 77 They were elbowing each other.

Speaker 36 It's 1990s horse racing.

Speaker 35 Yeah, but journalism, like

Speaker 96 it was so cool to watch the last, I don't know, 100 yards where he it looked like he had nitrous in his ass.

Speaker 71 Yes.

Speaker 28 He was going in a different speed than every other horse on the track.

Speaker 36 Yeah, and the jockey was saying afterwards, like, yeah, I've run this type of race with him before. He has that ability to do it.
And it was, I'm glad that he won. Look at me.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that's some old school shit right there.

Speaker 31 That's some bumping and grinding.

Speaker 36 That's some full-contact horse racing right there going up to the 18th Fairway.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 65 It was fun. That was a fun race.

Speaker 87 You enjoyed it? Yeah.

Speaker 36 Were you happy for journalism?

Speaker 61 Yeah, I love journalism. Journalisming.
Journalism.

Speaker 78 Journalism. Journalism is.

Speaker 11 You love all of it.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Did you guys see that foul on Angel Reese?

Speaker 36 Let's say that. Let's save that.

Speaker 37 Let's save that. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Why don't...

Speaker 117 Should we talk about Friday night?

Speaker 67 The boat.

Speaker 29 The boat? The dumb boat?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 87 That was Saturday night.

Speaker 46 The Mexican boat that ran into the Brooklyn Bridge.

Speaker 44 I think a couple people might have died.

Speaker 40 That was pretty sad.

Speaker 109 But Hank brought it up, not me.

Speaker 36 Yeah, you said it was awesome, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, you said it was awesome.

Speaker 56 You said it was wild.

Speaker 36 A couple people died.

Speaker 61 Yeah, a couple people died. I said it was awesome.

Speaker 63 It's not awesome.

Speaker 36 It was a Mexican Navy training ship.

Speaker 61 It's an insane video.

Speaker 36 There's a lot of stuff going on with ships running to bridges these days. Insane video.
What do you think about that? I know.

Speaker 61 I know.

Speaker 36 The first person I thought about, this is sad.

Speaker 36 The point that Hank's broken my brain, but the first person I thought about when I saw this video was Hank and what kind of dots he's connecting to try to pull this all together. Yeah.

Speaker 36 So, what's your theory?

Speaker 61 I don't know. They're saying they lost power and just floated into the bridge.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 61 Yeah. Scary stuff.

Speaker 7 Speaking of bridges, Mikael Bridges plays for the Knicks.

Speaker 61 He does.

Speaker 120 And that was Friday night.

Speaker 121 And that's where the video is from.

Speaker 34 That was Friday night.

Speaker 36 Should we talk about that game?

Speaker 61 You got to see the Joe Biden.

Speaker 122 Let's see how many things you can get.

Speaker 64 Yeah. Empty the clip.

Speaker 86 Go ahead.

Speaker 50 Yeah, Joe Biden has cancer.

Speaker 78 Hope he's okay.

Speaker 61 Former president, yeah. Yep.

Speaker 36 Prostate, stage four.

Speaker 107 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 48 What else you got?

Speaker 61 Paul Skeens struck out Bryce Harper.

Speaker 10 Yep. Three fast.
Yep. Okay.

Speaker 117 Okay.

Speaker 123 That was crazy.

Speaker 109 MLB debut, six innings, scoreless, nine case.

Speaker 56 Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I was actually, that was going to be my debt.

Speaker 109 That was the only way to get me going.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Anything else?

Speaker 54 What else you got?

Speaker 25 You want to do WNBA?

Speaker 61 Yeah, I mean, that was a wild, wild opening night. Yeah.

Speaker 61 Like, at first, I was kind of like, why are they, you know, there should be basketball on tonight, but they delayed it for the WNBA, and it makes sense why they did.

Speaker 6 It was action everywhere.

Speaker 40 I think I'm addicted to WNBA discourse because

Speaker 85 that was the first game of the season, and

Speaker 84 I've never seen racism thrown on both sides so quickly.

Speaker 74 First game of the season, everyone was just calling each other racists.

Speaker 6 It was fucking awesome.

Speaker 55 Yeah, so racism everywhere.

Speaker 36 When it comes to Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, there's a lot of people that don't care about the WNBA who have thoughts about the WNBA. Correct.

Speaker 36 And there's also a lot of people that care very deeply about the WNBA that don't want all the discourse from their fan base growing to a point where it becomes, where it reaches critical mass in America, where you get assholes rooting for your sports.

Speaker 36 But here's the dirty secret is if you want to be a successful league, you have to reach that point where the world's biggest shitheads have very strong opinions about all your athletes. Correct.

Speaker 36 It's like a little catch-22.

Speaker 36 And it's fun to see a league deal with those growing pains because, obviously, people are talking more about the WNBA in the last two years than they have in a very long time.

Speaker 36 And that's not to say that they didn't have fans. Their fans were just, it was a smaller group.

Speaker 36 And now it made that leap all of a sudden to becoming a national talking point on not just sports media, but just

Speaker 36 mainstream media in general.

Speaker 46 It's not, yeah, it's just race, racism.

Speaker 125 And now every game is a race war.

Speaker 36 And now think about all the shitheads out there that pay attention to any sort of like news pro like if you deal with a national news program, you're reaching millions of people, a lot of whom are very dumb.

Speaker 36 Yeah. And now they're going to have strong takes on your sport.
How do you deal with the idiots now becoming fans of your sport?

Speaker 19 The foul in question was a regular foul.

Speaker 36 I thought that was a pretty right. It was hard.
She put some stank on it.

Speaker 80 The only criticism of Caitlin Clark fouling there was that Angel Reese misses a lot of layups.

Speaker 90 She just let her shoot.

Speaker 36 She probably would have missed it.

Speaker 39 And that's my biggest takeaway from the Angel Reese versus Caitlin Clark rivalry, if you want to call it that.

Speaker 80 I actually feel bad for Angel Reese at this point, and it has nothing to do with like how she's handled herself or anything.

Speaker 38 It's just simply Caitlin Clark is so much better than Angel Reese at basketball that it's not, it doesn't feel fair.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I think Angel Reese is struggling with the fact that Caitlin Clark is

Speaker 36 better

Speaker 36 at her best thing than she is.

Speaker 35 She's better at everything.

Speaker 71 She had a triple-double.

Speaker 116 She's tied for the third most triple doubles in WNBA history, and she's played 50 games.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 53 She's just better.

Speaker 36 And they don't like each other, which is, again, I think good for the sport. Great for the sport that they don't like each other.

Speaker 36 But then, how do you deal with having a bunch of weirdos out there that now care very deeply about your sport

Speaker 36 without trying to actively push them away, which is also a mistake to push away the attention that your sport's getting?

Speaker 75 Do you agree that, like, in a weird way, I feel bad for Andreessen, the fact that

Speaker 36 she wants a rivalry and she has history with Caitlin Clark but it's no it's nowhere near equal footing in terms of play and it's like almost an awkward fit like Caitlin Clark needs a different rival because this one is just not fair yeah well the thing that she does have and I think this actually contributes to why she's really not having a good time with all the Caitlin Clark publicity is the fact that they did beat Caitlin Clark in the championship in college.

Speaker 36 Correct. So she's got that in the back of her head.
Now she's struggling to realize that, oh, shit, she's way better than me. Yeah.

Speaker 87 Yeah. And that's triple-double.

Speaker 36 And she's not going to be able to get over that.

Speaker 7 And racism by everyone.

Speaker 36 Racism by everyone.

Speaker 17 We had the LeBron is,

Speaker 39 there was LeBron congratulating Caitlin Reese and people being like, LeBron's

Speaker 3 Caitlin Clark, Caitlin Reese.

Speaker 37 Thank you, Hank. You're really sharp, too.

Speaker 64 You're welcome.

Speaker 11 Thank you.

Speaker 39 LeBron congratulating Caitlin Clark and everyone's like, LeBron's a sellout.

Speaker 16 And then our guy, White Boy Rick, saying Angel Reese can't is dribbling at her chin and then saying he's racist.

Speaker 19 And I was like, I love all this.

Speaker 93 Everyone's racist on both sides.

Speaker 36 I do love Angel Reese getting all those rebounds off her own missed layups, though. Yeah.
It's fun to watch her miss like four in a row and get four rebounds in a row. Yeah.

Speaker 36 That's good basketball to me.

Speaker 103 I just, I can't remember the last story where we've had the equal claims of racism on both sides.

Speaker 19 And it's like, guys, we're talking about basketball.

Speaker 55 Yeah. It's like, what are we even doing here?

Speaker 29 But people have just gone nuclear and it's just so toxic that I'm addicted to it.

Speaker 36 It's like Angel Reese is Caitlin Clark's Achilles heel.

Speaker 126 Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 57 That was mean.

Speaker 36 Is it not? Yeah, no, it is. I think it's mean.
I think it's valid.

Speaker 112 But it was mean.

Speaker 36 You want to talk about Paul Skeens again?

Speaker 61 No, I mean,

Speaker 61 a little more, you know, not as national sports podcast, but you know, local to us, Chicago. Cubs swept the White Sox this weekend.

Speaker 91 PCA is the man. They're hot.

Speaker 61 Cubs are hot. Everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 61 It's all the city's a buzz. Yeah.
Cubs fever.

Speaker 48 How's it the game on Saturday? I love PCA.

Speaker 83 I'd die for PCA.

Speaker 36 Did they call it a subway series here?

Speaker 128 No. What do they call it?

Speaker 119 It's just

Speaker 36 White Sox first Cubs.

Speaker 103 I mean, it is connected

Speaker 16 by a subway, but it's that I feel like Subway Series in New York.

Speaker 34 And it's the L.

Speaker 61 They actually had a Subway Series this weekend, too.

Speaker 36 That's right. Yeah.
People are mad.

Speaker 129 Oh, yeah, you got that?

Speaker 36 People are mad at Wan Soto. Both sides are mad at Wan Soto.

Speaker 4 Yankees Crossstown Classic.

Speaker 17 They tried to do a trophy. I don't think they have it anymore.

Speaker 47 The Crosstown Classic trophy.

Speaker 40 It was so sad.

Speaker 78 It's a hot dog.

Speaker 23 When both teams were not good, and it was like, they literally had a trophy.

Speaker 75 And it was just like, what is this?

Speaker 36 It should be the bean. The bean should be their trophy.
Take a picture of that.

Speaker 16 The Crosstown Cup was so sad.

Speaker 36 But yeah, Yankees fans are pissed at Soto because he left and they booed him. I actually like Soto.

Speaker 36 They might still do the response to it where he just tipped his hat to all the Booing fans in right field. Yeah.
He was just like, yeah, bring it on, bring it on.

Speaker 36 And then now Mets fans are mad because he didn't run out of the batters box.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 59 And Yankees fans doing the, we're turning our back to him.

Speaker 20 That was kind of weird.

Speaker 36 He doesn't care. Yeah.
Also, he doesn't.

Speaker 69 He doesn't really do anything.

Speaker 32 He doesn't really owe you anything.

Speaker 117 No.

Speaker 36 Like, why would, why would, why is Juan Soto the bad guy in this situation? Yeah.

Speaker 46 By the way, Max, he's looking out for Crosstown Cup.

Speaker 26 The best part about the Crosstown Cup is the tiebreaker would be who won it last year.

Speaker 17 So there was a year where there was no winner. It was like 3-3, but it was because the team had won it last year.

Speaker 45 They get to keep the cup.

Speaker 10 It's fucking so stupid.

Speaker 108 I love that.

Speaker 50 So stupid.

Speaker 86 All right, Hank,

Speaker 24 you got a...

Speaker 54 I mean, what else you got?

Speaker 50 I think it's time.

Speaker 60 It's time. It's time.

Speaker 41 It's time.

Speaker 10 It's time.

Speaker 109 We have a video pulled up of everything that Hank

Speaker 41 said.

Speaker 11 I want to know if we want to start.

Speaker 59 I want to start with giving the Knicks their flowers. Same.

Speaker 2 I think we need to give the Knicks their flowers because I think that's appropriate because the Knicks are shout out Knicks fans.

Speaker 77 They have gone through a lot of shit.

Speaker 26 They've seen some really bad basketball for a lot of years.

Speaker 28 I think there was a lot of weird gatekeeping going on on Friday night because Knicks fans were going crazy in the streets and like guys on billboards.

Speaker 46 This podcast is very much in favor of enjoying the ride.

Speaker 114 If you're a fan,

Speaker 35 you can't be like, oh, jobs not finished.

Speaker 50 Jobs not finished for the players. The players should say jobs not finished.

Speaker 2 Jalen Brunson actually said that.

Speaker 40 They had a team meeting game five after they lost in Boston, being like, that was piss poor effort.

Speaker 15 Job's not finished.

Speaker 2 They didn't really celebrate.

Speaker 80 They said, if you watch, they celebrated game four victory

Speaker 111 a lot.

Speaker 80 And then they on game six, they didn't really celebrate that much after on the court.

Speaker 54 The fans should celebrate.

Speaker 33 The fans should enjoy every moment of this and soak it in and have the best time ever, especially like basketball and hockey.

Speaker 76 When the weather turns, there's no better celebration.

Speaker 36 Yeah, shut down 7th Avenue, climb up the foul poles.

Speaker 36 It rocked high five uh timothy chalames is hanging out the side of a limousine yep do all that stuff you should absolutely celebrate it you got to the eastern conference finals which is obviously difficult to do first conference finals in 25 years first yeah in 25 years and you've got a very fun team to route for a tough team a mentally physically tough team i i would say the the toughest in the fact that you had There was two moments on Friday night where I was like, this, I mean, the game was over pretty quickly, but Mitchell Robinson basically playing defense on the entire Celtics team on that one possession where he was just hustling his ass off.

Speaker 23 And then Josh Hart having a triple-double and like diving for offensive rebounds when they're up 40.

Speaker 91 This Knicks team has grit.

Speaker 70 They have guts.

Speaker 16 They have like, they've done a good job with their roster making the moves they made.

Speaker 80 And yeah, they're, and, and Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 28 And I'm sure Knicks fans, I would, I would love for you to chime in and tell me if I'm close or where I'm at.

Speaker 29 What do do you got memes what are you pulling up langston gallery galloway uh alexey schved andre barnyani lou uh uh amundsen and lance thomas knicks fans have been through this this this franchise has been a joke for a long time and they and new york cares about basketball so them celebrating the way they did i'll actually say you know what My only critique of New York on Friday night, you didn't go hard enough.

Speaker 122 You should have gone crazier.

Speaker 36 I think that

Speaker 36 you are well deserved to celebrate this absolute New York Knicks fan. And the team is fun to root for.

Speaker 36 They're so fun, in fact, that I find myself rooting for the New York Knicks, which is crazy when you think that New York fans, they're also Rangers fans, they're also Yankees and Mets fans.

Speaker 36 It's insane, but this is a likable team.

Speaker 87 Yeah, and New York.

Speaker 36 And somehow New York has become the underdog.

Speaker 114 Well, we, like, living in New York, you know that, like, the Knicks, and it happens when

Speaker 34 there's split teams everywhere in a city, uh, like New York, where there's Mets and Yankees fans and Jets and Giants fans but New York is the one team that everyone gets behind you know what I mean like so they the the the city does feel different when the Knicks are doing well we didn't even get to see it we saw a couple like runs but

Speaker 47 Knicks fans do not apologize for anything go as crazy as you want to go fucking talk any shit you want to talk this is the whole point of playoffs and watching sports and watching you know Langston Galloway you know six years ago seven years ago this is the whole point is that you get these moments and you should embrace it and enjoy it as much as you possibly can.

Speaker 36 Two years ago, your main focus was Charles Oakley getting kicked out of MSG for trying to fight your owner. Yeah.
Now you're in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 36 And I appreciate also that New York did not give a shit when the Nets were good.

Speaker 64 No. They're like, we don't care.
No.

Speaker 36 No. But the Knicks, now that's the stuff.

Speaker 77 No, I remember

Speaker 54 I walked out of

Speaker 38 the game seven, the Kevin Durant foot on the line game, Bucs Nets, and walking out of that game, there was like a crossing guard who was a Knicks fan.

Speaker 114 He was just talking all this shit to the Nets fans.

Speaker 25 He's like, You guys fucking suck.

Speaker 53 And everyone's like, Dude, the Knicks suck.

Speaker 19 He's like, I don't care.

Speaker 116 At least we're not the Nets.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 114 I have a question, though, and I'm sure memes, you could chime in, but I want to hear from Knicks fans as well.

Speaker 116 I think Jalen Brunson is already a top-five Knick.

Speaker 39 I think it's not, I think it's the

Speaker 29 list now is Patrick Ewing, Willis Reed,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 60 Clive Frazier.

Speaker 64 And then it's like, yeah, Earl of Pearl, and then Mello is somewhere in there.

Speaker 79 Obviously, Lynn Sanity has a special place in Knicks fans' hearts, but I think he's a top five Knicks.

Speaker 31 He might be top four.

Speaker 58 He might be.

Speaker 15 The New York Knicks, in the last 20 years, before Brunson got there, they won eight playoff games.

Speaker 28 In the three seasons he's been a Knicks, they've won 21 playoff games.

Speaker 29 And he's like, he's also,

Speaker 114 I think it's just like the undersized guard kind of thing that everyone can get behind.

Speaker 37 Second round pick.

Speaker 55 Second round pick.

Speaker 114 Dallas, like being like, no, we're good, which is still crazy.

Speaker 36 Went to a small school.

Speaker 78 Small school, not known for basketball.

Speaker 10 That part's wrong, but you can continue.

Speaker 15 Yeah, no, I think he's the top five Nick of all time in the three years that he's been there.

Speaker 17 And it's he's he's awesome, and he's the heartbeat of that team.

Speaker 78 And yeah, they're fun to root for.

Speaker 17 And Tibbs is like, you know,

Speaker 84 he's Tibbs.

Speaker 40 He had those guys in there

Speaker 3 with 10 minutes left.

Speaker 36 Like I said, the Knicks being scrappy underdogs, it's an interesting position for New York fans to be in. And Big Cat, do they lose that going up against the Pacers?

Speaker 36 Because they were going up against the defending champions.

Speaker 36 So it was, you know, it was easy to root for the Knicks against the Boston Celtics for a lot of people out there that didn't have a dog in the fight.

Speaker 36 Going up against the Pacers, you think they lose that? Or do you think they just lean heavily, heavily into the past of like Reggie Miller versus the Knicks, and they just stir up those old emotions.

Speaker 17 Well, it is on TNT.

Speaker 121 So, Reggie Miller will be calling the game, so we'll get a lot of that.

Speaker 17 It won't be the Stephen A.

Speaker 40 Smith show. So, I think

Speaker 46 I love this. I love the Eastern Conference trial.

Speaker 17 There's like the this is going to be Bad Blood City because these teams have legitimate real history. They played, I think it was like six times in eight years in the 90s.

Speaker 23 You had the Jon Starks headbutt of Reggie Miller, which was more of a Reggie Miller flop. You had the Reggie Miller eight points in nine seconds.

Speaker 91 You had the Larry Johnson four-point play.

Speaker 121 Like, you had the Reggie Miller doing the choke to spike lead.

Speaker 91 There's history between these two teams, so I'm excited.

Speaker 20 I think it's gonna be toxic.

Speaker 45 I think it's gonna be good.

Speaker 80 People don't like the Pacers. People don't like the Knicks.

Speaker 91 There's gonna be moments that everyone's gonna be mad at each other.

Speaker 71 It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 36 I think that the Knicks are fun to root for, but then you see one or two examples of them celebrating this win that makes you think, I could see myself being motivated to hate this fan base.

Speaker 25 I'm going to take it on a game-by-game basis.

Speaker 36 I like rooting for the Knicks right now, but I can see a world in which I completely flip on them. And Exhibit A might be your very own Knicks fan here.
Memes. Memes.
Yeah. Memes win.

Speaker 36 And you should celebrate, memes. You should celebrate.

Speaker 87 Memes have.

Speaker 36 But you went on a war page.

Speaker 78 Memes.

Speaker 87 Warpath.

Speaker 114 I wrote down what you did on Friday night.

Speaker 39 It was crazy, man. You went.

Speaker 72 For people who don't follow us on social, pardon my take.

Speaker 61 First, for a little bit of back behind-the-scenes context, I texted the group text, like, congrats, memes. And I think he just said, stay offline for the next 24 hours.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he warned you.

Speaker 24 And then he went to do

Speaker 50 Hank as Bonnie Blue twice.

Speaker 32 Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips.

Speaker 10 And Lily Phillips.

Speaker 93 They were calling him Bongy Blue.

Speaker 10 Bongy Blue. That's great.

Speaker 68 He did,

Speaker 51 he hit Max with a stray.

Speaker 79 He had the graphic ready for Kat being in the Eastern Conference for one year and already being in the Eastern Conference finals.

Speaker 116 On his personal account, he had, I don't know if you saw this one, PFT, he had the Tropic Thunder Ben Stiller holding Hank's decapitated head.

Speaker 11 Did you see that one?

Speaker 86 I did.

Speaker 10 I did. That one was good.

Speaker 28 But then, memes, so we alluded to this when we were having dinner tonight, and we're like, we're going to have to discuss it.

Speaker 7 This one is crazy. This is just gruesome.

Speaker 36 Yeah, it's good. That's good stuff.

Speaker 69 It's crazy.

Speaker 81 You just, you have some deep-seated shit against Hank.

Speaker 36 I mean, you could tell that this was something that memes put a lot of effort into because

Speaker 36 I don't think you did a Max Photoshop. No, you didn't put Max's face on anybody.

Speaker 25 That's a great point.

Speaker 10 You weren't even

Speaker 68 high off the prize.

Speaker 36 Yeah, memes, if the Knicks lose in the Eastern Conference Finals, you have to do the Statue of Liberty with Max's face. Oh.

Speaker 10 Deal.

Speaker 46 All right, so, and then I want to get to the video, but

Speaker 130 I have to question one thing, memes.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 26 Because you were just taking shots, shots, shots.

Speaker 23 The Banner 19 one made no sense.

Speaker 22 What do you mean?

Speaker 80 The Banner 19, the Celtics 4-0 in the regular season versus the Knicks.

Speaker 77 What Celtics fan ever said, like, was like, hey, we're 4-0 against the Knicks.

Speaker 10 Hank. He did? Yeah, it did.

Speaker 77 But he raised the Banner 19?

Speaker 36 There were

Speaker 36 a lot of fans of the Thunder, of the Celtics bringing up regular season records for the Knicks.

Speaker 36 And the Cavs, too. It was like those three teams beat the shit out of the Knicks in the regular season.
So understand that.

Speaker 35 That was the only one that I was like, wait, what?

Speaker 88 But I guess you had context there because you take meticulous notes and you're always ready for this.

Speaker 17 So do you want to play the clip

Speaker 76 that you were in your bag?

Speaker 44 You did a compilation for Hank.

Speaker 47 Tank, did you watch this?

Speaker 61 I think I got like 10 seconds through.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay.

Speaker 19 So now you're going to have to watch it like clockwork orange.

Speaker 60 We don't have to watch the whole now.

Speaker 102 No, we got to watch

Speaker 69 the whole thing. Let's watch the whole thing.
That was nice.

Speaker 36 I was like, Max, trying to save Hank, but

Speaker 36 today it was reported that Cat is going to

Speaker 36 on Friday it was reported that Cat is going to be traded to the Knicks. Hank, how do you feel about this trade?

Speaker 132 I don't think it affects much. I think New York's going to eat Cat alive

Speaker 132 to be Cat's point.

Speaker 132 Solid team.

Speaker 61 Great.

Speaker 132 Embiid will probably take his knees out as well.

Speaker 132 And I'm not worried about them in the playoffs.

Speaker 132 Let's just fast forward to the finals.

Speaker 132 It's self-ishunt here.

Speaker 56 That was satire.

Speaker 61 That was PFT.

Speaker 56 That was the PFT.

Speaker 36 Not worried about the Knicks.

Speaker 132 Not worried about the Knicks. Even if we lose, I'll say it right now.
If somehow we lose game one, we could lose two games, and I wouldn't be worried.

Speaker 36 If you go down to 0-2.

Speaker 61 0-2, not worried.

Speaker 132 Celtics aren't afraid of anyone.

Speaker 132 Healthy Celtics beat anyone.

Speaker 61 That's still crazy. You were down three.

Speaker 68 That could still be a good one.

Speaker 132 I was in the national media this week, this past week, saying that the Knicks were actually going to be a good test for the Celtics. They might be coming for the title.

Speaker 132 They played on Sunday, and the Celtics waxed them.

Speaker 36 What do you think about the Knicks?

Speaker 132 They're not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 132 It does feel like they're still away from the Celtics and the Cavs.

Speaker 43 Bing Bong. Right?

Speaker 131 Far away. Yeah.

Speaker 43 Bing Bang.

Speaker 131 Big Bang.

Speaker 132 Does that do anything for you? Yeah. Not clutch at all.

Speaker 36 But Hank, when you say that

Speaker 36 you have the Knicks, do you have the Knicks or do the Knicks get you? Because after the game, the Knicks fans, they were outside MSG, and you know what they were chanting?

Speaker 132 What? We want Boston.

Speaker 36 We want Boston.

Speaker 132 We want Boston. Yeah, they don't have a choice.

Speaker 36 Yeah, but sure. So they got you.

Speaker 132 I think we have an amazing perimeter defense. I think we're going to lock them up and make other players beat us.
And the Knicks don't have those players. Bing bong!

Speaker 36 Who's got the better Jalen?

Speaker 132 Celtics.

Speaker 131 Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong, bing bong.

Speaker 132 I feel good. I'm happy I said I wouldn't be worried if they went down 0-2.

Speaker 132 They came out. They

Speaker 132 showed what they needed to do. I feel like that's going to be...
They're going to win this Series in 6. Oh, so that's it.
That's it for the Knicks. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Listen, I didn't think the Knicks were going to be in the Eastern Conference final, but Hank,

Speaker 1 you never, let's talk about this from your perspective.

Speaker 16 You never led this series, and you also called this series over twice.

Speaker 61 I did. I got a little bit ahead of myself.

Speaker 61 When I said that I wouldn't be worried if they were down on two, I didn't think there was a prayer, like a chance in hell that they would lose one game, let alone two in a row.

Speaker 61 So that didn't look great. And then, yeah, I mean, obviously before the injury, I felt good about our team coming back.

Speaker 61 Yeah, they probably still would have lost game four, even if Tatum was fully healthy. So that was wrong, too.

Speaker 61 I give credit to the Knicks.

Speaker 61 Jalen Brunson, that take the most incorrect take in that clip is me saying not clutch at all. He is unbelievable.
He took over multiple games. Fun to watch.

Speaker 18 Also knows how to dribble with his left hand.

Speaker 61 A little bit. Well, he's a lefty.

Speaker 56 Well, but still, Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 61 A little bit of, you know, got to work on some flopping. But that's NBA.

Speaker 56 That's an NBA thing

Speaker 61 across the board. Like, players flop a little bit too much, but

Speaker 61 he's a really good player. Mikhail Bridges, again, give him credit.
He hit every single mid-range shot. Like, he was everywhere, hit shots when he needed to.

Speaker 61 And the Knicks beat us. I think

Speaker 61 the talking heads in the national media saying the Celtics might be better without Jason Tatum clearly got shown to be complete idiots and fools. One and one without

Speaker 102 one and one.

Speaker 61 That's a good point. One and two in the playoffs.

Speaker 120 In this series, one and one.

Speaker 56 But one and two in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 What about

Speaker 95 when we started the playoffs, you said over under two and a half losses before the finals?

Speaker 115 You said take the under.

Speaker 95 You ended up having

Speaker 36 was that in one series or was that the four?

Speaker 102 Five losses.

Speaker 82 Five losses.

Speaker 103 So you had.

Speaker 61 Yeah, well, I did say multiple

Speaker 61 times.

Speaker 67 You went six and five.

Speaker 117 You went six and five.

Speaker 61 I said if the I said the Celtics are fully healthy, they're not going to lose championship. That obviously, you know, we lost one of of the best players in the league, in the world.

Speaker 61 So it's tough to come back from that. We did our best.
We'll always have game five. That was fun.

Speaker 61 But now the offseason's here.

Speaker 61 It's sad. It's the end of an era.
A lot of people being really mean online. I don't let that get to me, though.
I don't, you know, everyone has to deal with it.

Speaker 61 But people are nasty, means especially.

Speaker 56 Jerry O'Connell, especially.

Speaker 61 But that's fine.

Speaker 61 Heavy is the head that wears a crown. Yeah.
No longer, unfortunately.

Speaker 37 Well, no, you still still do.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 122 There's not a new champion.

Speaker 87 You have the crown.

Speaker 63 No.

Speaker 11 Let's talk more about the offseason.

Speaker 61 The crown is dead. Like, the king is.
It's the way we're in. What's it? Conclave or conclave?

Speaker 119 Terrorists.

Speaker 122 Do you think, can I ask you this question?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Are the Knicks a better team than the Celtics?

Speaker 61 The Knicks were the better team than the Celtics.

Speaker 34 They are a better team than the Celtics.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I mean, you can't. I can't.
I'm not going to argue that.

Speaker 35 Because I was wrong, too.

Speaker 17 I thought the Knicks, I did not think the Knicks would be in the Eastern Conference Rounds.

Speaker 118 They have greatly.

Speaker 61 I don't want to say the S-word again because it got taken as an insult.

Speaker 37 Say it.

Speaker 10 They're scrappy.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 110 This is the happiest team to get to the Eastern Conference final.

Speaker 36 That was so cute how you guys beat the shit out of this. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 54 And for you. What happened Friday night? Let's talk Friday night.

Speaker 86 Because

Speaker 20 somehow this series not having a single show night was crazy.

Speaker 78 We had Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

Speaker 123 That was unfortunate.

Speaker 61 That was really unfortunate. I mean, the game, they just, they came out so flat, so, so flat.
I think there was just a lot of pressure

Speaker 61 and shots weren't going in, and then the Knicks just took, like, just dominated. Second quarter, it was over.
Like, the way they closed the first half, they're down 27 at halftime.

Speaker 61 It was, it was over. It was never even like, I think the first quarter was somewhat close.
We stayed in it, but after that second quarter run, it... It never felt like we had a chance of coming back.

Speaker 61 I still blah, bet them like five times.

Speaker 68 Oh, shit.

Speaker 36 I think that this was great for the Boston-New York rivalry.

Speaker 61 I guess, yeah, because it's a rivalry now. Yeah.

Speaker 61 Yeah, back. The Knicks have

Speaker 10 woken up. Yeah.

Speaker 36 What do you think about Cat? Cat was wearing a fuck Boston shirt today.

Speaker 61 He was, I, and that's, I respect, I respect that. I respect that shirt.

Speaker 102 It was a clip of Cat after, too.

Speaker 61 Talking like he's from New York.

Speaker 20 Well, he's from New Jersey, yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 91 He he might have changed his

Speaker 121 the tone of his voice changed a little.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 61 No, it's good for the rivalry it's good for the rivalry you know it it it gives the guy some fire in the offseason if the Knicks you know go on to win the championship it'll give him even more fire it's good for the rivalry

Speaker 36 and you know we got to just get better in the offseason and try and get back next year so about that because I'm kind of glad in this way that we didn't have a show on game night now you've had some time to process it and you've really thought about how bad things could look next year for you personally.

Speaker 36 So where do you see this team going this offseason?

Speaker 121 Max just nodded and went like this.

Speaker 84 Good point.

Speaker 102 I don't know. I think the Max.

Speaker 69 Wait, wait, wait, Hank, Hank, we'll get to you in a second.

Speaker 10 Max, how good was that point that I just made?

Speaker 102 Great point.

Speaker 10 You just went like this. You went like this.
Yeah. Yeah, because

Speaker 109 it needs to be talked about.

Speaker 36 Because there's a lot.

Speaker 36 Listen, credit to the old owners of the Celtics because they did what I think most of us would have done, which is let's just give out some fucking contracts before we sell the team.

Speaker 36 We're not going to have to pay them. And then somebody buys a team, and now you're talking luxury tax.
You're talking all these superstars, all these great players.

Speaker 61 New owner is a Boston guy, so maybe he kind of just does the same thing where he's like, fuck it, let's just do whatever it takes to win.

Speaker 61 I thankfully, unlike the Sixers organization being a dysfunctional shit show, the Celtics are a great top-down organization. I do trust Brad Stevens.
I do feel like

Speaker 61 they're going to go for a route where they

Speaker 61 start stockpiling.

Speaker 10 Like trading away.

Speaker 60 You're in a stockpile.

Speaker 61 Trading away players, going young. So you're in a rebuild.

Speaker 120 Getting picks.

Speaker 61 I think. I don't know.

Speaker 100 It's crazy.

Speaker 57 It's a process.

Speaker 10 Are you ready to announce the rebuild?

Speaker 36 It's crazy to see. I'm not a math guy.

Speaker 61 Someone needs to figure out how we can keep Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and still have good enough players around them to compete.

Speaker 61 I have, from what I've seen, again, not a math guy, not a luxury tax guy, not a contracts guy.

Speaker 36 It's just not a tax guy.

Speaker 61 It doesn't, not a tax guy at all. It doesn't look,

Speaker 61 I can't. wrap my head around it yet.

Speaker 61 If someone can explain to me how we're able to do that and like not just have all of our money with two players and then kind of get stuck with shit guys around them, I would be open to that information.

Speaker 26 Max has a question.

Speaker 109 I keep talking about these two players. Are both of those players playing next year?

Speaker 56 They're going to be on the roster.

Speaker 56 I don't know.

Speaker 109 That's two

Speaker 36 different things. It's also a bad question because they still have them on the roster for next year.

Speaker 87 Okay, that's fair. Yeah.

Speaker 36 When one's not going to play because he's hurt, but he's still going to be getting paid.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 109 No, but I'm saying, like,

Speaker 109 you don't know how how to win

Speaker 109 if the player's not playing.

Speaker 36 What do you think about the allegations that the Sixers are in a worse spot than the Celtics are?

Speaker 87 Are you asking me that question? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 64 Well, Hank asked. The door's open.

Speaker 36 Hank asked it, and so I'm relaying Hank's question to you.

Speaker 2 Hank said they're not the Sixers.

Speaker 61 Tatum is going to be out for you.

Speaker 7 Well, it's an Achilles injury, so we have an idea.

Speaker 61 But they say, you know, he got the surgery really quick. That's a good sign.

Speaker 16 So what do you think?

Speaker 56 I don't know. Those two days are going to be a good thing.

Speaker 43 It's going to be a huge difference.

Speaker 61 Because they would make no sense to come back at the end of the season.

Speaker 37 Correct.

Speaker 36 I think Dr. Bing Bong ruled him out for all next year.

Speaker 48 He also has some thoughts on Christophs, but it's not for air.

Speaker 12 Last sec.

Speaker 61 Would love to be a part of one of those inside joke text messages one day.

Speaker 19 Well, no, I just said it's not for air.

Speaker 36 He's got swine flu. Yeah.

Speaker 115 Got attacked by a bear.

Speaker 61 We'll see. I trust Brad Stevens with my life,

Speaker 61 but

Speaker 61 I'm leaning towards

Speaker 11 rebuild. Ish.

Speaker 10 Wow.

Speaker 36 That's crazy.

Speaker 46 You just hit the rebuild button.

Speaker 41 Ish.

Speaker 6 Probably. Memes.

Speaker 17 Make a graphic. He hit the rebuild button.

Speaker 70 Memes. How happy are you right now?

Speaker 109 How awesome was Friday for you?

Speaker 36 Friday was one of the greatest sports moments I've had in a while. Well, Mets last year and then this.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 81 And you just were locked in.

Speaker 62 I was dialed.

Speaker 36 I said to our production group chat, I was just like,

Speaker 36 there's a 10% chance I get fired for doing that.

Speaker 36 Mimes, how long did it take for you? Like, when did you start compiling the list of shit that you're going to put out the instant that the Celtics lose?

Speaker 36 It was after the Knicks went up 3-1.

Speaker 111 Okay.

Speaker 36 I texted Pug and Jack. I said, go back to October 2nd and get the cat cake

Speaker 10 and then start compiling.

Speaker 36 That's pretty reasonable. And to be fair to Hank,

Speaker 36 to take Hank's side just a little bit, when Hank said that he would not be worried if they went down 0-2, he never actually thought that they would be down 02. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 36 So it was really easy for him to say that in the moment.

Speaker 91 As someone who's been on the other side of one of those memes joints, they hurt, but it's also like a hat tip.

Speaker 16 Like, you did your job, man.

Speaker 61 I also respect, like, as much as I want to chirp, and

Speaker 61 I do still want to chirp, I respect the fact that, like, memes does his best work strictly fueled by hate. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 Like,

Speaker 61 if it wasn't the Knicks, or it wasn't me,

Speaker 61 no one's doing that much work to go back and make that.

Speaker 87 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 115 If If the Knicks beat the Pacers to go to the NBA Finals, it's not going to be, it's going to be like, yay.

Speaker 102 It's going to be graphics.

Speaker 123 It's going to be graphics.

Speaker 36 The two Bonnie Blues was a bit much. Yeah,

Speaker 86 the first Bonnie Blue, I gasped a little, and then when the Bonnie Blue hit the second,

Speaker 61 what's the other?

Speaker 54 I saw the second Bonnie Blue hit the tower.

Speaker 15 I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 10 I think it makes sense.

Speaker 10 I think we could have used all of the Bonnie Blues.

Speaker 59 Do you have a Bonnie Blue that you kept in the chamber?

Speaker 40 No, it was just the two Bonnie Blues.

Speaker 76 Is there any that you kept in the chamber that you would like to release right now?

Speaker 74 Because then people can see it and then hear this point in the podcast.

Speaker 36 No, no, the two Bonnie Blues, I felt was the line.

Speaker 80 Yeah, but you don't have anything saved?

Speaker 96 No. Anything that you were thinking about?

Speaker 80 Because you didn't even put this one on the main.

Speaker 88 The Ben Stiller, Hank decapitated him.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I felt that was too graphic for the main

Speaker 36 blues.

Speaker 129 Hank, you look hot as Bonnie Blues.

Speaker 36 I think it looks hotter as Lily Phillips.

Speaker 116 Hank, all right, spin zone time.

Speaker 118 Summer's kind of opened up.

Speaker 61 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 77 But summer's kind of opened up.

Speaker 86 You don't have to.

Speaker 63 Game for at night.

Speaker 86 You don't have to do the duck boats.

Speaker 80 Don't have to make any trips to the wood.

Speaker 36 Keep your hair.

Speaker 10 Extra golf.

Speaker 61 No, I was looking forward to the skullet.

Speaker 61 I've been planning out the skullet with

Speaker 61 I might because that's maybe a little bit too cocky. But we've been, you know, for the last three months, I'm like, let's keep the back long.
I got to get a skullet. Give it to us.

Speaker 56 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 117 A little bit of, you know, you got less travel, more golf.

Speaker 36 Did you play a sad round of golf on Saturday?

Speaker 61 I played, no, no, I did not.

Speaker 37 Not really affected. What did you do Saturday?

Speaker 61 I just went out. My cousin was in town.

Speaker 127 Nice.

Speaker 106 Hit the bars.

Speaker 99 What did you do on Friday?

Speaker 61 Friday, I golfed.

Speaker 114 But Friday night?

Speaker 61 Friday night, I just sat on my couch sad. I've stared at

Speaker 61 all of the losses. I've just been on that couch.

Speaker 61 It's been a sad, sad couple couple weeks for my couch yeah do you regret not going to the new york office and streaming there no i would have if if that's what i was asked to do but you know i knew clemer had that tim was on the wood so yeah

Speaker 61 also memes clemmer memes maybe maybe the biggest piece of shit move memes did was uh

Speaker 61 dave like i said dave threw me under the bus saying that to chal me being like this guy called you performative and i said in real time i'm like i don't think i said that i don't remember saying that then i texted the group talk so i was like memes i say this and he just responded yes so i said that i was like yeah my bad I did say that.

Speaker 61 I don't remember it. I said it on the show.
I don't remember saying that. And then after, I was like, can I see that clip by the way? Because I really don't remember.

Speaker 61 And he's like, oh, no, you didn't say it.

Speaker 67 That was fucked up.

Speaker 46 So, Chalamet, the Chalamay rivalry, he just dominated you.

Speaker 87 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 61 So guys got it all. He's got it all.

Speaker 67 I'll give it a hand up.

Speaker 61 Chalamay, you got me this time.

Speaker 19 I bet you he doesn't have a sad couch.

Speaker 123 No, no. He's probably got it all.

Speaker 10 Yeah, his couch is probably fucking awesome.

Speaker 71 So at least you got that over.

Speaker 61 Yeah, no. It went from, you know

Speaker 61 me and Dave to bad bunny and like the best night ever in New York. Like the clip of him in the limo is awesome.

Speaker 78 Yeah, he's the man. Yeah.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 36 I love that he actually cares about his teams. Like you can tell that he really does.

Speaker 61 Brought up Chris Duon. That's what I knew.

Speaker 3 He's the man. Yeah.

Speaker 130 There's the old picture of him rushing to Grand Central to get free pictures or free tickets from

Speaker 129 who is that?

Speaker 61 Maurice Doddemeyer.

Speaker 78 No, it's like

Speaker 10 Landry Fields.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 74 it's great.

Speaker 103 So,

Speaker 2 alright, reset button, rebuild button.

Speaker 60 That's it?

Speaker 61 Yeah, just hopefully our new owner is like Daddy Warbucks, like part two.

Speaker 36 Is it Billy Strings?

Speaker 2 Do you regret calling this series over twice that you were never leading?

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I do. The 2-1 was probably, I got a little ahead of myself.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 61 And then I was, I will say, like, I was fully, you know, I was in full denial and just really just trying to procrastinate things after the wood game, game five.

Speaker 61 That was, I was probably over, overextending myself.

Speaker 19 You didn't want game six to happen.

Speaker 17 You didn't want to get to game six.

Speaker 61 I was, yeah, I was just so happy with how things went in game five, and I want to just bottle up that feeling forever.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 36 What would you do this offseason, Hank? If you owned the team, golf.

Speaker 61 If I own the team,

Speaker 67 would just

Speaker 61 spend a lot of money, yeah.

Speaker 57 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 57 I'll blow it all.

Speaker 111 A lot of golf.

Speaker 41 A lot of golf.

Speaker 10 That's the thing.

Speaker 61 Celtics are no self-disc. I'm playing a lot of golf.

Speaker 87 Yeah, no, I know, but

Speaker 67 it's not like, oh, the Celtic season's over.

Speaker 61 Now I can play more golf.

Speaker 61 I'm going to play the same amount of golf. Maybe just not go to the games.

Speaker 51 Right.

Speaker 29 You were going to have to go sit courtside at an NBA playoff game, which would have been brutal.

Speaker 15 You were going to have to go on the duck boat and get drunk with Joe Missoula.

Speaker 53 You were were going to have to do a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 Now you don't have to do it.

Speaker 36 Have you looked up golf courses in Indiana? Because you're like, we might be playing the Pacers. Let's see if there's something close by.

Speaker 61 No, no, I did not do that.

Speaker 3 You could have gone to games there.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 56 That would have been cool.

Speaker 107 Oh, man.

Speaker 34 It would have been cool.

Speaker 48 I'm excited for Pacers, Knicks.

Speaker 36 I'm excited for how much golf Hank's going to get to play. Yeah.

Speaker 129 Max, how are you?

Speaker 116 Max is mad.

Speaker 34 Max was mad that it was a Friday night game.

Speaker 109 Yeah, no, it's bullshit.

Speaker 109 This isn't the same reaction that we would have gotten on Friday night.

Speaker 67 No, Friday night.

Speaker 27 No shit, dude.

Speaker 10 We would have got tears.

Speaker 109 It would have been so embarrassing. You would have been so upset.
It's bullshit. You had two days to, like, not even think about it.

Speaker 129 That sucks.

Speaker 109 But I am happy that you're fucked and the Celtics are fucked going forward.

Speaker 61 But that's the thing. We're going to be back sooner than the Sixers.

Speaker 60 Oh. Let's start another clip.

Speaker 41 Start the clip.

Speaker 102 Start a new clip.

Speaker 41 Start a new clip.

Speaker 109 Because everything that you say is wrong going forward.

Speaker 86 The booth has.

Speaker 61 The booth.

Speaker 10 They have your number right now.

Speaker 10 This is the booth's revenge.

Speaker 67 Like, you keep calling me a loser.

Speaker 109 I literally just won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 69 He's got you there.

Speaker 36 Dude, it's been a while since Hank's been right about anything.

Speaker 10 Oh, man.

Speaker 55 This is brutal.

Speaker 59 Hank has never been in this position where the booth has owned his ass.

Speaker 61 No, yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 61 It fucking sucks.

Speaker 86 They're laughing. They're having the time of their life.

Speaker 59 This is why you lift all those weights, boys. This is why you stay up until 4 or 5 in the morning editing the podcast for this moment.

Speaker 109 This was was probably the last time Boston was good. Actually, that's not true.
It's also just one.

Speaker 41 We'll back that one.

Speaker 117 Max went too long.

Speaker 49 I have one last question.

Speaker 46 Just a thought starter question.

Speaker 79 Then we'll do who's back in the week.

Speaker 47 We'll get to our interviews.

Speaker 80 So the Knicks fans going crazy was awesome on Friday night.

Speaker 17 I think the Knicks might be the number one city to proverbially burn down in a championship.

Speaker 50 And I was thinking about this.

Speaker 118 So

Speaker 29 obviously you could throw in the Browns or the Lions or the Bills, Bills, but those teams play winter sports.

Speaker 74 It's definitely different if you win a Super Bowl, like it just is, versus winning an NBA or a Stanley Cup and it's nice out and everyone just takes to the streets.

Speaker 51 The only other one I can think of is the Toronto Maple.

Speaker 61 That was going to be my. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Maybe.

Speaker 36 I would definitely put the Browns on there, even though it's the wintertime. Their river catches on fire.
Yeah, that's very flammable. I would also say Montreal.

Speaker 37 Montreal.

Speaker 36 Because Montreal has a a culture where it's like you riot after good things happen to you. Yeah.
Like in Europe.

Speaker 38 But the Knicks might be number one right now of city to burn, to proverbably, but not actually burn down, but like just the most chaotic scenes possible after a champion.

Speaker 36 What would be great about New York is that you get snippets from like seven different neighborhoods all celebrating in their own crazy ways.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 61 I will say that I have given some thought about the rest of the playoffs.

Speaker 11 Yes. Oh, this is good.

Speaker 39 This is a big announcement.

Speaker 36 Wait, you said that you weren't going to watch the rest of the playoffs.

Speaker 61 I will. No, I will.
Even I'll say, I will say after.

Speaker 11 I'd hope so.

Speaker 86 We have a sports podcast.

Speaker 61 Yeah, no, I know. And after Tatum's injury, like watching the games, I was just kind of like, damn, I am just watching this as a neutral fan.

Speaker 61 I don't think we're going to play the Thunder or the Nuggets or the Timberwolves.

Speaker 61 I will be rooting for the Knicks to win the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 61 That's huge. And I will be rooting for the Thunder, Alex Caruso.
Really, the only connection

Speaker 61 within the world is the Thunder. He's super fun to watch play.
Great recurring guest, friend of of the program,

Speaker 124 loves golf.

Speaker 61 I'm pulling for him.

Speaker 40 I literally texted Caruso after game seven.

Speaker 16 I was like, dude, you're my playoff team.

Speaker 10 Yeah. You personally are my playoff team.

Speaker 134 Yeah, as I was watching it, I was like, yeah, fuck yeah, Caruso.

Speaker 61 Like, guys, man, I hope he wins. Yeah.
So, yeah, it's Thunder over Knicks. Yeah.

Speaker 56 Because I want

Speaker 135 the Knicks to get their heart broke.

Speaker 36 Oh, that's very mean.

Speaker 68 I think the Knicks.

Speaker 86 I now... I'm not betting.

Speaker 61 I'll be betting on the Knicks. Definitely game one.
I think I'll go game by game after that. But it would be crazy.
Like, you can't.

Speaker 61 How would you bet against this team?

Speaker 116 I'm now in the

Speaker 16 mindset of any of these four teams.

Speaker 81 I really do. I could see any of these four teams.

Speaker 95 I think the Thunder are probably the best team still standing.

Speaker 28 But if you flash forward and you tell me the Pacers, the Knicks, the Wolves, the Thunder all win the championship, I'm like, yeah, they're really fucking good.

Speaker 36 I think it's a good place to be.

Speaker 24 It's a fun Final Four that it really feels...

Speaker 4 chaotic and awesome.

Speaker 28 And someone's going to have a championship for either the first time ever or the Knicks first first time in 52 years.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 70 Knicks could absolutely win the title now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's crazy, though.

Speaker 44 The Cavs and the Celtics.

Speaker 119 You should have put that in the injuries, man.

Speaker 7 PFT laid the death knell when he was like, Can we just fast-forward the Eastern Conference to the Cavs and the Celtics?

Speaker 87 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 36 I said, all these other teams, get the fuck out of here. It was the Celtics.

Speaker 36 I was also egging Hank on a little bit with that. But the ESPN analysts, this is now the 3-0 for him.

Speaker 36 So they all picked against the Timberwolves against the Lakers. They all picked against the Pacers against the Cavs.
And they all picked against the Knicks against the Celtics.

Speaker 36 So if you get that graphic going,

Speaker 36 you know they're about to be wrong.

Speaker 109 Yeah. Memes and I both said Knicks and Six before the series started.

Speaker 56 There you go.

Speaker 3 Only two media members. That counts.

Speaker 49 The booth is up.

Speaker 29 The booth is up huge.

Speaker 10 All right, let's see who's back.

Speaker 47 Then we'll get to our interviews. We've got two great interviews.

Speaker 19 Smiley Kaufman talking more golf.

Speaker 3 And then an awesome interview with Kyle Stowers and Tyler Phillips in the Miami Marlins in studio.

Speaker 94 So it was great hanging with those guys.

Speaker 136 The big thing for us here. Let's get it done.

Speaker 61 On paper, it's easy.

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Speaker 61 It's harder than the road they drive on.

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Speaker 88 Okay, Hank, who's back to the week?

Speaker 63 My who's back?

Speaker 61 I got, I emptied the clip.

Speaker 10 Yeah, trying to filibuster.

Speaker 61 I'll go because I'm looking at it on the screen right now. The librarians, the next chapter, they're showing these commercials in all these games.

Speaker 61 I can't believe it's a real show that is being made.

Speaker 10 It looks like

Speaker 61 this dumbest fucking show of all time.

Speaker 36 Is this one where Nicole Kidman's like a shooter?

Speaker 61 No, no, no. This is a movie.
This is, no, have you seen the commercials, though? It's like, looks like, I don't think it is Lynn Manuel Miranda, but it looks like him. Yeah.

Speaker 61 And it's like a bunch of action hero, superhero librarians.

Speaker 10 A guy that looks like Lynn Manuel Miranda. Look it up.
Look it up.

Speaker 86 I can't tell if it's him.

Speaker 61 I literally think, I'm guessing that he wrote the show or something. It was like, let's get an action double of myself.

Speaker 61 But the commercials, every time I see him, I think it's like a spoof commercial for like a different product. And then at the end, it's like librarians.

Speaker 3 Wait, hold on a second.

Speaker 3 Rebecca Romaine is in it?

Speaker 36 Yeah, she's a star.

Speaker 138 She's a star.

Speaker 10 No, she's not.

Speaker 36 Damn, hey, she's first listening.

Speaker 10 Sam, man.

Speaker 78 She's not.

Speaker 10 How could you?

Speaker 41 No, no, she's not.

Speaker 36 Wait, this is the Librarian's 2014 TV series.

Speaker 102 Oh, yeah, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 41 That would have been crazy.

Speaker 68 That was season one.

Speaker 67 That would have been crazy.

Speaker 59 Wait, but is she in season two?

Speaker 63 I don't know. I hope not.

Speaker 56 Oh, my God.

Speaker 36 The next chapter.

Speaker 45 Season. Oh, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 20 So there's four seasons.

Speaker 74 I think she's in them.

Speaker 17 Is she in the new one?

Speaker 36 I've got to pull it up right now. Let's see.
Starring. I don't see her name in this.
Okay. I also don't see Lynn Manuel Miranda's name.
I think Hank just. Look at the guy.

Speaker 117 Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 122 I see Lynn Manuel.

Speaker 59 No, no, he is. That is him.

Speaker 99 Is that him?

Speaker 10 No, no, no. I don't think it is.

Speaker 36 Look at him, though, because he's Callum McGowan.

Speaker 71 That does look like him.

Speaker 32 I'm looking at it. Yeah.

Speaker 59 Like, he had to have written this show.

Speaker 61 Why?

Speaker 10 Because the guy. Is that also...

Speaker 93 Is that Olivia Munn? Yep. No.

Speaker 36 It's fake Olivia Munn. Olivia Morris, isn't it?

Speaker 80 So it's a fake Olivia Munn and a fake Lynn Manuel Miranda?

Speaker 36 Well, Olivia isn't the one that looks like Olivia. Jessica Green looks like Olivia.

Speaker 11 Got it.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I guess he's not. I don't see him on the executive producers or anything.
I just, when I see the commercial, I'm like, is that Lynn Manuel Miranda? I'm like, no.

Speaker 61 And I'm like, he must have been like, let me see. All right, good who's back.
An action version of myself.

Speaker 61 But yeah, I'm going to have to watch this at least an episode because, again, I just can't believe it's a real show.

Speaker 125 Is the Rebecca Romain?

Speaker 91 Is that the same as this show?

Speaker 10 I think

Speaker 10 that was the previous chapter.

Speaker 61 Because

Speaker 61 this is the next chapter.

Speaker 87 Yeah. Got it.

Speaker 36 It's about crime-fighting librarians.

Speaker 99 Great who's back, Back, Hank?

Speaker 116 Thanks. It's on the TV right now.

Speaker 36 You're just looking around the room.

Speaker 32 Okay. Well, I did give like eight before.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I mean, to be fair, Hank did take like everything

Speaker 36 before Who's Back came up. So my Who's Back of the Week is Vanny Woodhead.
Oh. How's Vanny Woodhead looking? Oh, good.

Speaker 117 Vanny Woodhead's good.

Speaker 61 I just, we sent an invoice for some parts. It's getting fixed up.

Speaker 36 Okay. Because when was the due date on Vanny Woodhead again?

Speaker 16 It was

Speaker 122 spring summer-ish.

Speaker 96 So it would be right now.

Speaker 36 I just hadn't heard anything about him, so I figured we might check in, see how he's doing.

Speaker 86 We're about to hit summer.

Speaker 34 Memorial Day is the start of summer.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 7 we're like seven days away.

Speaker 61 Are we on track? No.

Speaker 60 Oh, okay.

Speaker 101 Because that was your thing.

Speaker 61 I'm working on it. I'm still working on it.

Speaker 61 It could happen still, but I don't want to. You know, there's been some delays and possibly me just forgetting to send an invoice.

Speaker 36 Well, the Celtics.

Speaker 76 Because if we went through the list, like memes, your thing is to meme Hank to death.

Speaker 99 Check. Max, your thing.

Speaker 56 Baseball team.

Speaker 61 It's against the baseball team.

Speaker 80 Max, your thing is to freak out and make good content about getting tricked and

Speaker 26 bastard party, check.

Speaker 17 Hank, Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 113 On it.

Speaker 36 How far would you say we're behind?

Speaker 61 I don't know.

Speaker 61 My hands aren't dirty.

Speaker 61 Wait, what does that mean, though? Like, I don't know exactly

Speaker 61 what needs to get fixed and how long it's going to take.

Speaker 61 If, you know, if you were on a flight, it would be a delay where you're not upset about it. You're not going to change any plans.
You're just like, all right, minor delay. Why not?

Speaker 61 Like someone, they're just fixing a light in the bathroom.

Speaker 35 So we shouldn't be looking for alternative routes?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 36 So it's no longer spring-ish summer.

Speaker 10 It's still

Speaker 36 solidly summer?

Speaker 61 Never say never.

Speaker 61 Because summer doesn't start till like July, right?

Speaker 56 June 21st.

Speaker 61 Yeah, so never say never.

Speaker 36 June 21st, are you taking the over or the under? Over.

Speaker 60 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 61 But, you know,

Speaker 61 you would have taken the Celtics going into the series. Like, anything can happen in this game.

Speaker 37 Yeah. I would have taken it.

Speaker 86 So you're saying we get an upset and downloaded?

Speaker 60 Yeah, you wouldn't.

Speaker 61 We'd probably get some good value on

Speaker 61 the under. Okay.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 2 I have two who's back.

Speaker 121 The first is Giannis because he did a QA while everyone's wondering where he's going.

Speaker 17 And it was very funny because he was answering.

Speaker 59 I think Giannis, like...

Speaker 46 People were asking him very loaded questions.

Speaker 3 He was answering them honestly.

Speaker 19 Like, someone asked,

Speaker 79 out of all the cities you've ever been to, which city made you the

Speaker 15 happiest to be there, not counting your hometown?

Speaker 92 He said, Florida Cities.

Speaker 20 He said, what's your favorite city to play in on the road?

Speaker 7 He said, New York.

Speaker 2 He said, there was something else about, I think there was something with Texas or something, but he's basically just throwing red meat at the internet, being like, here you go.

Speaker 80 And I think he's actually being genuine.

Speaker 20 Like, I don't know if he's doing this on purpose.

Speaker 36 Florida Cities. Yeah, Florida Cities.
All Florida Cities. All Florida cities.

Speaker 60 Florida, Orlando.

Speaker 96 Orlando would be a a good fit.

Speaker 10 Apollo.

Speaker 3 It would be great.

Speaker 2 My other who's back is PEDs.

Speaker 79 Because did you guys see Brittany Mahomes?

Speaker 64 No.

Speaker 36 I did not.

Speaker 61 I did.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 7 There's been some upgrades.

Speaker 36 Let me look at this.

Speaker 46 Respectfully.

Speaker 35 All due respect.

Speaker 36 Developing.

Speaker 72 Developing.

Speaker 86 Respect.

Speaker 11 All due respect.

Speaker 36 I think she's always been a lovely person.

Speaker 16 She's always been a lovely person.

Speaker 40 I'm just saying there has been some alterations.

Speaker 87 Good for her. Yeah.

Speaker 46 All due respect.

Speaker 64 Cannons.

Speaker 36 Mahomes' always been a big TD guy. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 40 The overused joke of the weekend online was,

Speaker 92 look at the weapons Mahomes got to play with this year.

Speaker 36 Oh, I like that. That's good.

Speaker 10 It's a pretty good one.

Speaker 78 Very nice lady.

Speaker 87 Yeah. Looks great.
Respect.

Speaker 36 Looks great. Always has.

Speaker 103 Also, the real PEDs is Jose Alvarado.

Speaker 34 Philly's closer. Got busted for PEDs.

Speaker 36 No. Big-time bust.
80 games.

Speaker 60 80 games.

Speaker 36 Ineligible for the postseason.

Speaker 78 Not good.

Speaker 78 Not good.

Speaker 41 That sucks. Max?

Speaker 109 Not great. Not great, especially because the bullpen's already very bad.

Speaker 109 But we also just brought up a prospect. He threw six scoreless, nine Ks today.
We have like eight starters and like two relievers.

Speaker 84 Okay, so what happened with Jose Alvarado?

Speaker 109 You know, he was a little bit overweight, and I think he.

Speaker 10 He's he's a fat boy.

Speaker 109 It was it was it was a fat, it was a fat loss drug.

Speaker 60 Okay,

Speaker 69 that shouldn't be a problem. You can't get fat loss with a fat pill.

Speaker 102 You can know it probably has like meth in it.

Speaker 68 Yeah,

Speaker 10 you can take fat pills. But it was

Speaker 109 listen,

Speaker 109 sometimes you feel like a fat boy and you want to be less of a fat boy. And he has a clip about calling himself a fat boy.

Speaker 6 It's very funny. Yeah, play it.

Speaker 112 And this is what did him in.

Speaker 139 Is that the key for any pitcher, though, though, Jose, is make make sure your legs are strong?

Speaker 52 You know, I am the grizzly bear.

Speaker 27 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 57 I am the grizzly bear.

Speaker 66 I got

Speaker 16 sometimes I call

Speaker 107 to my people in the glue house.

Speaker 127 Bro, I feel like a fat boy.

Speaker 88 Yeah, they shouldn't have busted this guy.

Speaker 109 Yeah, no, we laughed over it, but he's like, yeah, fat boy.

Speaker 10 I'm fucking fat.

Speaker 36 I'm looking up what he got busted for. It looks like he got busted for

Speaker 36 taking supplemental testosterone.

Speaker 36 So I don't know if that's necessarily a fat boy move. I don't think the way you made it seem was.
No, there was rumors that

Speaker 109 it was a fat loss drug that had testosterone in it.

Speaker 8 Ah.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 129 Got it.

Speaker 39 But I actually believe him that he was not trying to do it in a steroids way.

Speaker 15 He was just trying to get lose weight.

Speaker 36 Well, so it was exogenous testosterone, which is not one of the fat boy drugs.

Speaker 109 This is what, I don't know, this guy, he's got, you know, 15,000 followers. Okay.
Jose Alvarado

Speaker 109 accepted the suspension. Dave Dombrowski said it was a weight loss drug that caused him to fail.
Phillies will treat it like losing to someone to injury.

Speaker 36 I think that's why the MLB came out and said what it actually was. Yeah.
Just because they said.

Speaker 116 That's bad, Max.

Speaker 95 That's bad.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 50 Smiley Kaufman.

Speaker 31 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, recurring guest.

Speaker 18 It is Smiley Kaufman.

Speaker 21 You can see him on NBC Sports. You can see him coming up with the U.S.

Speaker 75 Open and the Open Championship.

Speaker 40 You can also can listen to him, the Smiley show.

Speaker 18 He just did a live stream after the PGA Championship.

Speaker 40 And he was there in Charlotte all week.

Speaker 49 Smiley.

Speaker 46 I don't really know where to start other than Scotty Scheffler is just the best golfer in the world.

Speaker 76 And it feels like, maybe you can explain it to me.

Speaker 89 It feels like the gap is larger than we let on because obviously Rory and Xander won two last year.

Speaker 1 But it does feel like when Scotty plays his best, there is no one close to him.

Speaker 85 Is that a fair assessment?

Speaker 128 I think we're back to regular scheduled programming and great to be back on with you boys and always enjoy coming on. Yeah, I mean, guys, Scotty Scheffler,

Speaker 128 it's absurd what he can do with the golf ball.

Speaker 128 And I think maybe most of us and maybe members of the media were blinded a little bit by the grand slam with Rory McRoyd at the Masters and Augusta National and just how important that was, not only for Rory's legacy for the game of golf, but even after that, I'm thinking, oh, gosh, Rory could potentially win the next six majors in my head.

Speaker 128 And I'm just somehow forgetting about how good Scotty Scheffer was over the past couple years. And then

Speaker 128 Scotty Scheffer goes to the Byron Nelson, wins by, what was it, eight shots at the Byron Nelson, then shows up this week and gets the job done.

Speaker 128 It didn't ever feel like it was going to be a five-shot win in the end, but there was a lot of drama that happened over the last couple of hours that made it kind of a boring ending, but a very exciting hour or two in there, just not knowing what exactly was going to happen.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Did we see a little bit of that emotion from Scotty as he won? Like, you guys forgot about me? Is this bad boy Scotty that we got to see drop the gloves? Because, I mean, he made that putt on 18.

Speaker 36 Spikes the hat. That's an outburst the likes of which we've never even imagined from Scotty to throw his hat on the ground.
And everybody was like, oh my god, I can't believe this guy showed emotion.

Speaker 128 How rude was that, right? I mean, we're trying to play golf out here. It's a gentleman's game, and he's out here throwing his hat around in celebration.

Speaker 128 But to me, dude, PFT, this guy's a competitive psycho.

Speaker 128 It's unbelievable how this guy is wired, but he's got this soft side of him too, this like emotional dad side that any

Speaker 128 dad can relate to. Just at any moment, he could cry and you just don't know when it's going to happen.

Speaker 128 But then when he's, you know, when he's playing, and before he gets that moment where he gets emotional, he is legitimately just a competitive freak. He never gets out of the zone.

Speaker 128 Oftentimes, when I'm out watching him out on the golf course and walking the grounds with him, I know when to stay away and when he's not going to talk or when he's not going to joke around. And

Speaker 128 he was in the zone today and it was fighting it on that front nine, guys. He would have all these left misses going.
And you're thinking to yourself, is Scotty going to blow this today? Yeah.

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 72 There was that moment where John Rahm tied him, and it was like, oh, man, is this really going to happen?

Speaker 23 And then John Rahm completely melted down and Scotty just kind of stayed steady throughout it.

Speaker 138 I want to go back, though, the start of the tournament.

Speaker 86 And obviously, you know, the odds don't tell everything, but I thought it was crazy because on Friday, I believe it was, I was looking at the odds.

Speaker 76 Scotty's in like fifth or sixth, and he's probably four strokes back. And he's by far the favorite to win the tournament.

Speaker 17 If you're one of, and the, in the argument in the beginning of the, the tournament was like, look at these guys. They're not like the known, they're not the known guys at the top of the leaderboard.

Speaker 15 If you're one of those guys who came out and shot a 64 or 65 on Thursday, and you're in the lead, are you the whole time thinking like, well, Scotty is four strokes behind, and I'm fucked?

Speaker 128 Hopefully those guys aren't going to look at the odds boards after they're 65 on a Thursday. But, dude, I mean, Scotty was plus 450, I think, coming into the week.

Speaker 128 I believe he still had the the shortest odds and then after his two under round on thursday he moved up uh and like you said he was still four strokes back of the lead uh actually no five strokes back of the lead because because because vegas shot seven under and he moved uh up to plus 350.

Speaker 128 yeah and that's and that's crazy and that's when you're thinking to yourself okay the so the lead is actually 200 it's not seven under uh the scoreboard is wrong everything that you're seeing it it says what the lead is oh no it's actually scotty down here uh five strokes behind.

Speaker 128 And, you know, what's even crazier, guys, is that I just looked at what the odds are next week at the colonial. Scotty Shaff was playing next week.

Speaker 128 He's plus 250 to win next week at the Colonial, which is the most absurd number. Like, that's Tiger-like.
I think

Speaker 128 Tiger got like maybe into

Speaker 128 like, he never got to where he was like minus on a week to where that you were weighing money down on a loss. But I, it's, we're entering a territory that's crazy.

Speaker 128 And Jordan Speeth, I think he's the next best odds next week at the colonial at, I think, 22 to 1. So we're talking just the biggest gap.
That's crazy.

Speaker 89 It is nuts, and it is Tiger-like because Tiger, I remember, like, there was a year where Tiger, like, to win the Masters, was like plus 150 or something.

Speaker 20 It's like, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 17 So, I know this is a lame thing to do, but I do love to talk about it.

Speaker 35 Is Scotty officially on Tiger Watch?

Speaker 54 I know he's got a lot of things to do, but I saw a stat, 22 major starts.

Speaker 89 I think Tiger had three wins in his first 22.

Speaker 40 Scotty, or sorry, Tiger had five in his first 22. Scotty has three.

Speaker 19 Scotty had more top 25s, more top 10s, and the same amount of top fives.

Speaker 35 Like, I know I never thought when Tiger happened, you're like, it's never going to happen again.

Speaker 2 But it does feel like Scotty is, and maybe the competition is just harder because you see the guys that week in and week out are so good.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 28 if you had to put a number on Scotty, if everything stays like, you know, if he stays healthy and plays for 15 more years, like it does feel like he will be in that double-digit major territory.

Speaker 128 You're right. And health is going to be, you know, a big key to that if he's, if he remains healthy and continues the form that he's on.

Speaker 128 The strokes gained, that's something that we can kind of compare generations a bit.

Speaker 128 When we can go back and look at how well did Tiger Woods strike the golf ball and then compare it to how well Scotty Scheffler has done it. And it's comparable data.

Speaker 128 So when you look at that, you say, okay, he's as good as controlling his golf ball as Tiger Woods. And then you look at, all right, how has he done since 2021?

Speaker 128 You look at all the top events that he's played in. And he constantly puts himself in contention week in and week out, especially for the majors.

Speaker 128 So when you look at that and you think about just what he's accomplished to this point and how crucial it was for him to win this week.

Speaker 128 Because if he would not have gotten the job done this week, all of a sudden you're thinking to yourself, okay, he's only got two majors. He's only won the Masters.

Speaker 128 And we think about what he's going to be measured against over the course of his career as far as how many majors can he win and can he pass Tiger, can he catch

Speaker 128 Jack Nicholas? Well, he definitely needed to get it done today and he did. And all of a sudden you start to think, okay, is he going to be the next player to complete the grand slam?

Speaker 128 And actually, somebody tweeted this out. I can't remember who it was, but they actually said it would be considered the golden slam because he's won a gold medal.
Now,

Speaker 128 if he's able to win the U.S. Open and the Open Championship, he would be the first to complete the Golden Slam.
I wish I could give credit to whoever came up with that, but that was.

Speaker 50 As first reported by Smiley Coffin.

Speaker 102 Yeah, like

Speaker 102 the Golden Slam.

Speaker 10 Pardon my take, Mark.

Speaker 131 Yes.

Speaker 36 So I was looking at a bunch of the stats that you were kind of alluding to, and he's on all these lists with Tiger and Jack Nick Laus, as you mentioned.

Speaker 36 The only golfers to win two masters and a PGA before their 30th birthday.

Speaker 36 Like, you can look at the stats, and I'm a little bit upset at Scotty because it was going to be fun to say that he's just a masters merchant, that he's like raffin the doll, and he can only

Speaker 36 win at Augusta, and nobody, he doesn't even bother like competing in the other majors. So we can't talk about that anymore.

Speaker 36 But when we're talking about strokes gained and all this data that you brought up,

Speaker 36 where can you see that? Where can an average casual golf fan watch him play?

Speaker 36 Like, was it Saturday this year, where it's like he's dealing with the same conditions as everybody else, but he's just hitting the ball that much better?

Speaker 128 Oh, gosh, man. He, uh, I think he gained like eight strokes down the stretch over the last five holes in the round yesterday.
And this is, it's, it's not an anomaly. This is what he does.

Speaker 128 He finds a way in the most challenging conditions when we talk about the firm greens, we talk about holding 15-mile-an-hour crosswinds and shots that extend past wedges.

Speaker 128 We're talking like seven, six irons, where really proximity gets shrunk to an an average shot would be, you know, 30 or so feet.

Speaker 128 And he finds a way to break the mold down the stretch and hit shots inside of 15 feet, having the best shots of the day and later in the day, where typically it's firmer, faster, and it's more challenging.

Speaker 128 He put the tournament to rest, we thought last night until all of a sudden he's tied with John Rahm, with Rahm with seven to play and with him with nine holes to play.

Speaker 128 But yeah,

Speaker 128 I was very excited to see Scotty get the job done because you want to see you know a player of his caliber uh be able to to reach the heights that we think he can in the game so for him to get the this win uh what a what a start to the major season rory macro win the grand slam and now scotty uh win the pga it just gets you excited about uh the next one where it you know the last six majors have gone to to to scotty shuffler twice sander shoffley twice Bryson DeShambeau, and then Rory McCroy.

Speaker 128 And I don't know who's going to win a major outside of a group of of about eight guys. These guys are that good right now.

Speaker 20 Yeah, it is pretty crazy.

Speaker 45 So, Bryson, you mentioned, I wanted to ask a question about that.

Speaker 85 Bryson, like, he just, he gained so much from his drives, and he's bombing it so much farther than everyone else.

Speaker 77 But then it feels like his iron play was just all over the place and his putting wasn't there.

Speaker 76 Is there a fix for him?

Speaker 19 Or is it like, no, dude, he's like in the last six majors, he's been in the contention in pretty much all of them.

Speaker 65 It will happen again for him.

Speaker 128 I think I I talked to you guys after the U.S.

Speaker 128 Open last year when he changed to the bulge-faced irons, which is just, it's, it's so awkward to say as a technology in the game of golf, but there's so many weird sayings in the game of golf that bulge-face technology just kind of fits right in.

Speaker 128 And with Bryson, apparently, he was talking about this after the round that it's adding extra curvature to shots for him. And he really only plays a draw and he hits it so high up in the air.

Speaker 128 Where the difference between, I think, him and Scotty Scheffer when it comes to Iron Game is that Scotty Scheffler has the ability to always make his golf ball fly straight, and they both hit it just as high.

Speaker 128 They hit it, you know, if you're looking at them both hit an eight-iron, they're both of the same apex.

Speaker 128 But Scotty Scheffler with crosswinds can hold a right-to-left win to make the golf ball fly straight, where Bryson DeChambo, for the most part, just plays a little push-draw shot.

Speaker 128 So, right-to-left shots are going to get overemphasized to where they go too much to the left, where Scotty's ball is always landing softer on the greens because when you're fighting up against a breeze, it's adding spin to the golf ball.

Speaker 128 It's going to make the ball land softer, where Bryson doesn't hit many shots where he controls the trajectory and brings it down.

Speaker 128 So it's something that he 1,000% needs to improve on, but he hits it so good off the tee.

Speaker 128 And his short game around the greens is putting, his chipping, his bunkering, is all at such an elite level that in major championships, he's always going to be in contention.

Speaker 10 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 36 I saw this was from John Sherman. He was watching the round today and he said that Scotty came out with his club face too closed.

Speaker 36 But as the round went on, he found a way to manage it and that he'll go down as an all-time great because of his face control.

Speaker 57 So I think a lot of he has terrible face control.

Speaker 10 Bad face control.

Speaker 56 The worst face control.

Speaker 36 Resting bitch face is what he's got. So Scotty had resting bitch face today, but he learned how to smile through it somehow.

Speaker 36 Is that something that you can see on a broadcast? Like, can you tell like he's figuring this out as the round goes on?

Speaker 36 Or is this like something that you say when you're watching it to try to sound smart?

Speaker 128 Yeah, I think Randy Smith, Scotty Scheffler's coach after Friday, went on the range with him. And they were like,

Speaker 128 Randy was basically holding his hips and working on getting his hips to turn correctly.

Speaker 128 Yeah, so part of that helps with sequence and just knowing how to clear out at the right time.

Speaker 128 And I would say earlier this year, Scotty's biggest issue was a left miss, and it came out

Speaker 128 a lot of times in pressure moments.

Speaker 128 What you've been dealing with will come out. And that's kind of what Scotty dealt with on the front nine.
And you're right, PFT, his face control is absurd.

Speaker 128 And maybe we can ask Scotty to ask Big Cat how to exactly set up to the golf ball because Big Cat, of course, maybe has one of the best setups in the game of golf.

Speaker 63 That's facts.

Speaker 128 And you, I would say, probably struggle to clear your hips through the golf shots as well.

Speaker 128 And I would say that maybe Scotty had maybe watched you play too much golf recently heading into Sunday because the knees were locked, the hips weren't clearing at the right time, and maybe just watching too much golf podcast or YouTube content.

Speaker 128 Yeah,

Speaker 10 I never clear my hips.

Speaker 36 No, and Hank does have an issue with not being able to close his face.

Speaker 70 Yeah, the big time.

Speaker 50 All right, so

Speaker 10 I want to talk about the course real quick.

Speaker 86 Well, actually, no,

Speaker 59 what's up? Explain to me the driver saga that happened this weekend.

Speaker 2 They test 50 people randomly their driver and apparently scotty uses backup driver still dominated rory uses backup driver was a baby and didn't talk to media

Speaker 128 The only reason it's a story is that Rory didn't talk to the media the entire week. So I think people were upset that Rory wasn't just making himself available, especially coming off of a grand slam.

Speaker 128 And typically is one who always is one to talk to the media. The only time really that it comes to mind was, of course, after the U.S.

Speaker 128 Open last year, where uh you can't blame the guy for not wanting to talk to the media oh we could we did we did oh you did okay yeah i mean he he like pulled he peeled out it was he almost ran over like six kids in the parking lot yeah yeah i just feel vindicated that he didn't talk to the media because we rooted against him at the masters i feel a little vindicated but what's what's up with the the testing of the drivers so it's it's kind of interesting because there isn't uh exactly a protocol that that tests the entire field, which you would think if you're just like a casual fan, you would think that they would test every single player's equipment.

Speaker 128 So that it's not just random. You just want everybody to be playing under the same conditions.

Speaker 128 And so that was the conversation where was people asking the question as, well, was Rory's driver, was it conforming to the week of the masters? And so I think that's why

Speaker 128 the narrative of Rory not doing media kind of got overblown because his driver wasn't conforming for the week.

Speaker 128 To me, it was was a big nothing burger, but I think people just wanted just to hear Rory's thoughts on it because typically he gives so many thoughts on a lot of things in the game of golf.

Speaker 10 So what does that mean, though?

Speaker 65 What is conforming?

Speaker 36 My understanding was that the drivers, as you use them more, as you hit more shots with them, the face gets thinner.

Speaker 36 And so then as like through natural wear and tear, as the face gets thinner, it becomes almost a springboard. Yeah.
Because the face has a little bit of give to it.

Speaker 36 So it could be something where it's not like it's a driver that he got from a store. Like he didn't see an infomercial for like get 20 extra yards as you drive.
I did that.

Speaker 36 Yeah, with this, with this fake driver. But it was like just through overuse.
And the same thing happened to, was it Shoffley a couple years ago at the open?

Speaker 128 Yeah, no, it happens all the time.

Speaker 128 And you explained it perfectly. You know, when guys' face gets thinner, typically that's when you start to hit it the furthest.

Speaker 128 And you'll start to notice maybe a little bit of difference in a ball flight at times. And all of a sudden you'll look down at your face and then it's cracked.

Speaker 128 So that's a lot of times what players are looking for is if their driver face cracks, especially if they start hitting shots offline.

Speaker 128 But the protocol,

Speaker 128 there's a certain way they measure it, and apparently it doesn't take very long for the fact that they could measure the entire fields, clubs, week in and week out, but for whatever reason, it's randomized.

Speaker 128 It just seems like a situation, just hire more people just so where you just know everybody's playing under the same conditions.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that should test every driver.

Speaker 36 Should that be on the players? Like, do the players monitor how their driver looks at all?

Speaker 36 Because I wouldn't think, like, unless there's a crack on your driver and there's something screwed up about the ball flight, I wouldn't think that most players are like self-reporting.

Speaker 36 Hey, you checked us. I think it might be thin.

Speaker 128 You know, when I was playing on tour from this was probably 15 to 2019, I can think of maybe one time that I remember my clubs got checked.

Speaker 128 Maybe my caddy was asked to get them checked and took them over. But me personally, I don't remember it happening.

Speaker 128 But when I was talking to some journalists in the media center this week, they said that from 2019 up until now, that they've kind of activated a little bit more to where it's being tested more frequently.

Speaker 128 And even that number being...

Speaker 128 you know, a third of the field being tested, that number seemed high to me.

Speaker 128 I always thought it was closer to like 10 to 12 guys being tested week in and week out, which really didn't ever really make a whole lot of sense to me anyways.

Speaker 59 So what I'm taking away from this is Rory had an illegal driver.

Speaker 17 He was a baby about it. Didn't talk to the media.
Had to use his backup driver.

Speaker 97 That's why he sucked.

Speaker 17 But that also means that he had an illegal driver at the Masters asterisks.

Speaker 92 He needs to still win the Masters to complete the Grand Sled.

Speaker 128 So you're going to run it back. That's what you're saying.

Speaker 102 That's all I got out of it.

Speaker 36 I think the driver was at its best in the playoff. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Right? Correct.

Speaker 128 Okay, so here's the spin zone I'm going to throw at you guys: is that I watched him play at the Philly Cricket Club last week, and he hit that driver.

Speaker 128 That same driver that was non-conforming, that he had to take out of the bag. He hit it pretty bad.
Like, he was not hitting fairways with that.

Speaker 55 Well, yeah, it probably cracked.

Speaker 46 It was probably right before it cracked.

Speaker 55 Okay.

Speaker 134 Right.

Speaker 128 So, so there you go. Maybe, maybe, maybe it was already non-conforming.

Speaker 100 Yeah, the most non-conforming of his driver was at the Masters.

Speaker 129 At its peak.

Speaker 19 That's what I was doing.

Speaker 41 He won the Masters.

Speaker 10 He was a thin-face driver.

Speaker 54 I got another question about the course because there was a lot of mudball talk this week.

Speaker 67 Oh, mudball. Mudball.

Speaker 35 So Shane Lowry, I loved his,

Speaker 39 he took it out on the course.

Speaker 47 He beat the course up.

Speaker 24 First question is, the story came out afterwards that it actually was a ESPN employee that was the one who pointed out that that wasn't his, like he tried to claim, and he wasn't trying to cheat.

Speaker 17 You can just say, hey, I think that divot was already there.

Speaker 64 That's why my ball is half submerged.

Speaker 50 There was an ESPN bystander who was like, no, that's actually not true.

Speaker 46 That was your divot.

Speaker 40 If you were in that spot, would you report that?

Speaker 128 I've thought about this so many different times because the person that would have reported it is exactly what I would be doing on the ground.

Speaker 128 So you're up there, you see that the ball lands and then ends up in somebody else's pitch mark. And by rule, you do not get relief in that, which by the way, is so stupid.

Speaker 128 If your ball is below the level of the surface, I think you should always get relief. It's a ground under repair type of situation in my mind.

Speaker 128 I was thinking about it. And a lot of times, too, there's enough people around to where I wouldn't ever have to stick my nose in this.

Speaker 128 And maybe I wasn't there, so it's hard for me to really say, but I

Speaker 128 don't know, man. It's a hard one to call because it just, I don't, I don't want to say it depends on who it is, but also.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it does. Yeah, gosh.

Speaker 102 All right, so 100%.

Speaker 36 So let's just say, who would you definitely not call it on?

Speaker 128 Who would I not call it on?

Speaker 102 JT, Max.

Speaker 128 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 36 you better not fucking call it on Max.

Speaker 128 I'm not calling it.

Speaker 10 Jeez, you better not call it on Brooks either.

Speaker 36 We're gonna have problems.

Speaker 60 Yeah,

Speaker 128 this is a tough one. You are putting me in a bad spot here.

Speaker 128 Now I'm gonna just start looking away when balls laying in the fairway just so I'm not, yeah, just so I'm not held liable, you know?

Speaker 36 Nothing to live, guys. Don't want any smoke with MBS.

Speaker 35 So, so my real question, though, is,

Speaker 53 and you can maybe tell me that I'm wrong and you can spin on this.

Speaker 50 The complaints about the mud balls is like the softest thing ever. Like, come on, golfers, there's mud on balls.
So, you tell me how wrong I am that it's actually impossible to hit a mud ball.

Speaker 2 Because, like, this is one of those situations where

Speaker 77 I love watching the majors.

Speaker 32 I love watching golf.

Speaker 50 You know, there's times when, you know, if the crowd says something and someone flips out, I'm like, come on, don't be so soft.

Speaker 49 Mud balls, are they that hard?

Speaker 138 Is it that hard? Am I way off?

Speaker 128 Yeah, I was about to ask you, have you ever hit a mud ball?

Speaker 65 No, I mean, I just pick it up and clean it.

Speaker 55 I play scramble rules whenever I'm playing just by myself.

Speaker 128 Well, it's the same with me now, too. So I personally don't hit any mud balls anymore either.
But I could tell you the challenge is ridiculous.

Speaker 128 It is very, very hard, especially when you talk about Quail Hollow in a major championship test

Speaker 128 and just not having really any control. And I've seen veterans, kind of old school players kind of really kind of say that, guys.
There's a way around this.

Speaker 128 There's a way to hit these shots to where you can keep it in front of you and it's part of the game. It's just kind of rub of the green and that you should just deal with it.

Speaker 128 And then other players like Scotty, who is a just when he's in the fairway, he's so good that it's a disservice that you don't let him hit the iron shot that he's capable of hitting and that he's now has to basically be punished for hitting in the fairway.

Speaker 128 I think that there's an argument to be made there because the PGA tour, if it was a PGA tour event on Thursday, so Quail Hollow for the truest is

Speaker 128 played there every year. I would have said that Thursday, the PGA tour would have probably played it up ball in hand to where they would have cleaned the golf balls in the fairway.

Speaker 128 But because there was a major championship and that the PGA of America is making the call on whether the ball is being played up or played down,

Speaker 128 that was a significant impact because majors, they don't want to be defined by

Speaker 128 the golf ball not being played down.

Speaker 58 you know guys just had to deal with it it wasn't the rest of the week it wasn't a big storyline but thursday it was a big deal that makes sense too because i've always thought that the pga championship has a little bit of like little brother going on where like you know they moved from the last one to this one they also like there was that one year where the scoring was outrageous and everyone was like well this isn't the us open so they're trying they're trying to be a little bit more like the rest of the majors so maybe if it were another like they're like hey we got it we got to make sure they they hit these mud balls

Speaker 128 well you know they got five inches of rain i think on monday tuesday and wednesday leading up so the fact that the golf course was even to a point where they could get mowers down uh wednesday night just tells you how how good the golf course was from an agronomy standpoint and just how good the drainage was but uh yeah mud balls are they're really really hard to hit i don't know if you know understand how they work but no i don't typically so when you i'll tell you right now i never will

Speaker 128 i i think you need to go try it out for yourself

Speaker 128 so when the mud is is caked on the left side of the golf ball uh there's there's some type of aerodynamics that make the when the mud flies off, it makes the golf ball shoot to the right.

Speaker 128 So it's the opposite, the side the mud is on, it's the way it's going to go. So it's on the left, the ball is going right.
The mud is on the right, the ball is going to the left.

Speaker 128 So my bit now that I don't play much anymore, when I tee the ball up off the tee and I just hit a big slice, I'll just say mud ball. You know, it's just such a shame.

Speaker 59 You just described every shot I've ever taken in my life, and I'm just only hitting mud balls.

Speaker 102 Exactly.

Speaker 134 You got a new bit.

Speaker 107 You got a new bit. You got a new bit.

Speaker 36 What happened with the that shot that John Rahm hit where it hit the dude in the head and then bounced off his head and went onto the green? How did it bounce that far off his head, number one?

Speaker 36 And two, did anybody check on that guy to make sure he's okay? Because that seemed like it was pretty intense.

Speaker 128 I'm 99% sure, PFT, that that guy played fullback in high school.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Because that guy just went up to John Rahm and was like, hey, man, sorry about that.

Speaker 86 Like, we're all good.

Speaker 36 Don't worry about that. I was like, dude, that shot just hit your head as hard as it possibly can, and then it bounced 50 yards.

Speaker 128 He's a dude's dude, a a true football guy, a guy that uses the crown of the helmet, a guy that would have definitely been thrown out of plenty of games in high school. I mean,

Speaker 128 if you're listening to it live, the sound that it made when it hit his school,

Speaker 128 he's 20 yards left of the green guys, and it rolls. I mean, the green from a width standpoint is probably a good 13 yards.
I mean, it ricocheted a good 30 yards, which is just absurd to think about.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I was concerned about the man's health, and the next thing that I saw, he's like shaking hands with John Rahm and like getting an autographed glove from him.

Speaker 36 And they're like hooting and hollering. Like that was awesome.

Speaker 67 I mean,

Speaker 128 I saw some pretty funny tweets that said that he should have milked it and

Speaker 128 should have tried to get about a billion dollars from the PIF, knowing that John Rahm's employers could have maybe helped him out there. So I thought that was a pretty good tweet.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Let me ask you, did you watch the final round? Are you in Louisiana?

Speaker 128 No, no, I'm actually in, I live in Birmingham, Alabama. So I flew home late last night, watched the coverage today.

Speaker 36 So, yeah. Okay, because I heard that people in Louisiana couldn't watch part of the final round because it cut to a press conference about escaped inmates at a prison.

Speaker 128 Oh, I did see that on my social media today, and I've been following the storylines. I think they've caught, I think, about six of the guys that have escaped.

Speaker 128 So, maybe I can follow that live stream later because that would be some good content.

Speaker 36 I can only imagine how upset golf fans in Louisiana were that they had to deal with that. You alluded to it earlier, but maybe if you could narrow it down just a little.

Speaker 36 You said, like, with all these great players that we have right now, you don't know who the next major champion is going to be from the list of the guys that don't have one yet.

Speaker 36 Can you just give us like a short list of guys that we should keep our eyes on?

Speaker 128 Oh, so players that have not won a major championship that could be next up in line. Is that what you're asking? Yeah.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 119 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 128 Victor Hoblin to me,

Speaker 128 he's been all over the place at times

Speaker 128 when it comes to his golf game over the last really year or so. He won earlier this year in an an unexpected fashion, but still,

Speaker 128 he's still, to me, is

Speaker 128 one of the most talented players that hasn't won yet. Ludwig Oberg would be another guy, too, who's, I think his game is built for major championships.

Speaker 128 Ludwig is already contended at the Masters a couple different times. So those would be the two that come to mind first.
But there's plenty of other guys that you can maybe reach on.

Speaker 128 I think Joachim Neiman is a very talked about player from the live golf tour, but he finally got his first top 10 in a major.

Speaker 128 That was a knock against him is that he's won all this time on the P tour, excuse me, he won on the PJ tour, but he's also won five times on the live and had yet to have a top 10 in a major championship and got his first top 10 this week at Quail Hollis.

Speaker 128 So maybe that's all he had to do is get his first top 10 to maybe go in potentially at the U.S. Open at Oakmont.

Speaker 59 I got a question.

Speaker 50 So not only Shane Lowry beat up the course, but we also saw Wyndham Clark launch his driver.

Speaker 17 People were trying to say that that was the same as when Max launched his driver.

Speaker 84 If you watch, Wyndham Clark could have killed someone.

Speaker 96 Max was, did it in the most gentlemanly way where he like tossed it up the fairway where there's no one there.

Speaker 65 It was perfect.

Speaker 32 And he also tossed it where he was walking, which was efficient.

Speaker 59 Does the PGA say anything after these kind of things?

Speaker 100 Are they like, hey, man, you can't do that?

Speaker 17 Or do they just, they're like, hey, emotions happen.

Speaker 1 What are you going to do?

Speaker 128 Well, typically you get fined. And on the PGA tour, the guys understand kind of what the there's like certain certain levels.

Speaker 128 I'm not sure what the numbers are exactly for fines because they don't, the PGA tour doesn't make that available public information on what the number is.

Speaker 128 But I can tell you that when Shane Lowry and I played together, this is the Honda Classic back in I think 2016. Him and I both got fines on the 15th hole of Par Three there.

Speaker 128 You can find it on YouTube. It's actually quite entertaining.
They come live to the 15th hole for the first time.

Speaker 128 And I get up on the tee and hit one in the water and snap a club over my knee, Bo Jackson style.

Speaker 128 And then Shane Lowery hits one in the water right after me and then proceeds to, you know, just a give old, good old classic like Shane Lowery, oh, you fucking idiot. And that's like how he got fine.

Speaker 128 And I, Shane Lowery didn't apologize. I did.
So he had like a double version of what my fine was. So for the PJ of America this week, to answer your question, Big Cat,

Speaker 128 I think if you like look at the levels of what the fine would be, Wyndham's would be on a very high level because when you do the no look throw and not know if anybody's behind you, especially with a little bit of heat, that's where, you know, Brick could have killed a guy type of situation comes out.

Speaker 128 And my favorite part about it too is there's a picture too.

Speaker 128 I think one of his sponsors, I think is T-Mobile, and there's a hole of his driver that goes right through the T-Mobile sponsor sign on the back. You got to find it.

Speaker 128 It's absolutely hilarious knowing that it's one of his sponsors. And of course, he wasn't trying to throw a club.

Speaker 128 Well, I guess he did throw the club, but just throw it right through one of his sponsors at on the back was, I thought, funny for us.

Speaker 128 Luckily, everybody survived, but I imagine there was probably going to be a fine.

Speaker 36 I found the video of you snapping the club here.

Speaker 36 Do you remember what iron that was?

Speaker 129 It was a seven-arm. Yeah.

Speaker 36 Seven art. So what do you do for the rest of the round? You're just like...

Speaker 36 Like afterwards, I imagine that you have a couple minutes where you're like, or a couple seconds probably, where you're like, sweet, that was awesome.

Speaker 36 And then reality sets in where you're like, oh shit, I actually don't have a seven iron. You can't use it.

Speaker 128 You're just hitting little chippy six irons and big eight irons. That's all you're doing.
Luckily for me, it was on Sunday. And so I didn't, I didn't necessarily have to worry about it too much.

Speaker 73 That was a good snap.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was.

Speaker 17 Because I would be nervous that I wouldn't be able to snap it.

Speaker 77 So that would be, that's the most like, if you're going to go for the snap and you don't snap it.

Speaker 113 Yeah, what I try to do.

Speaker 10 That was a horrible moment.

Speaker 128 I tried to tell the PJ tour I was not trying to break a club over my knee. Like, it wasn't my intent to break the club.

Speaker 128 I wanted to just put it up next to my knee and just like try to act like i was breaking it yeah but like bo jackson um you know i i just have these quads that just unfortunately just that just can't match a seven iron shaft yeah this might be a dumb question but what is what is the drug testing policy like on the tour how often do you get randomized randomize it i remember that happening often and and it there would be a guy with a clipboard after your round typically uh they would say hey we need to get a drug test for you and so you go pee or whatever but every single single time it always happens ask any pga tour player you always bogey the last hole it just happens every time like that to where you leave and you're just so hot and you can't turn out a like if you if you walk away from uh a one of these urine tests to test if you uh are taking peds wherever it is um

Speaker 128 that that counts as a uh as a as a false like it yeah it would be or a positive test so that's the one you can't walk away from so you got to sit there and uh sometimes you you can't pee at the end of the day when it's really, really hot and you're drinking all these fluids.

Speaker 128 And so you just got to sit in there for 30 minutes, just make it small talk with the guy with the clipboard.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 134 It's not necessarily fun.

Speaker 36 We know with the NFL guys, they actually watch you pee. They have to be in the room.

Speaker 36 They're like, come on, let's see the hog. I got to see it coming out.

Speaker 36 I have to imagine that in golf, they might be, maybe they're a little bit more gentlemanly.

Speaker 128 Well, you just hope to be drug tested during the summer, not like, you know, at Pebble Beach when it's 50 degrees out and you can come off off the course.

Speaker 128 You say, can I go just kind of, we're on the treadmill here for a minute,

Speaker 128 get some blood flow.

Speaker 49 I got a couple last questions.

Speaker 40 John Rahm, so we didn't talk about, I mean, he was tied at one point in this

Speaker 50 final round on Sunday, and then it fell apart.

Speaker 20 Do you think he, watching him in this tournament, you think he's closer to being back?

Speaker 17 Or is it like, man, this was just another moment where things just haven't been going his way ever since he kind of went to live.

Speaker 128 Well, I think you got to look at the three, the three holes that were the most crucial ones for John Rahm. 13, 14, and 15.
13, he hit a 25-foot putt.

Speaker 128 Excuse me, that I can't believe how it didn't drop. Like such a good putt.
And, you know, gravity's wind, everything's helping him out for this ball to break.

Speaker 128 Somehow, it doesn't break, and that doesn't go in. And then 14.
You know, John Rahm is a fader of the golf ball, and the wind direction at 14 today was off the left.

Speaker 128 So not necessarily a comfortable shot, but he hit a three-wood, a club that he can turn over, and it lands on the right edge of the green.

Speaker 128 If it lands maybe two steps short of that, it's probably has enough of the draw spin to where that ball bounces onto the green, but it bounces just in a place to where it takes a right kick, goes into the bunker.

Speaker 128 But it got far enough into the bunker to where that was not, I didn't think it was that difficult of an up and down compared to Scotty, who his ball just barely rolled into the bunker at 14.

Speaker 128 I thought a more of a challenging up and down. So it really did come down to similar type of shots.
So Scotty Scheffler and John Rahm, similar type of bunker shots at 14.

Speaker 128 And then 15, John Rahm and Scotty Scheffler both end up in the same place over the green at 15. Scotty Scheffler gets up and down at 14.
John Rahm doesn't, hits a poor bunker shot.

Speaker 128 And then 15, John Rahm misjudges the putt from off the green, hits it to 13 feet, hits a poor putt coming back where Scotty Scheffler hit it to nothing.

Speaker 128 And then all of a sudden, John Rahm is in a chasing mentality, heading into the most difficult part of the golf course, was forced to play aggressively, and then it just unfolded. Right.

Speaker 128 The one thing I'll leave you with here with this big cat when you ask about is he closer to winning. Um, I, he's still one of the one of the top five most talented players in the world.

Speaker 128 There's no doubt about it. Uh, yes, he can win a major, uh, he can win the next major.
That's how good he is. But now we can look at a bit of a theme that's kind of happened.

Speaker 128 When you go back to the Olympics, where John Rahm had the lead, I believe, gosh, I wish I had the numbers in front of me, but he was comfortably looking like he was about to win the Olympic gold medal.

Speaker 128 And

Speaker 128 I think with five holes left, he found a way to work his way off of the medal stand.

Speaker 128 So John Rahm leaving the 11th green, had a seven-shot lead over CWoo Kim, who he was playing with. And at the end of the day, him and C.
Woo Kim finish a T8 at four under.

Speaker 128 And of course, walking to the 12th T's tied with Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 107 Right.

Speaker 36 So

Speaker 128 heading into the day, John Rahm wasn't expected to win the golf tournament.

Speaker 128 But when John Rahm was on 12, 13, 14, 15, anybody who was watching felt like John Rahm could have done more to challenge Scotty Scheffler, to make him hit more shots on 16, 17, 18, just to make it more interesting, not only for us as fans, but to make Scotty Scheffler prove that he can hit the shots shots to win his third major championship.

Speaker 128 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 It makes sense.

Speaker 70 It does.

Speaker 36 So

Speaker 36 how should we feel about Max's tournament? Because he had a great Friday, right? Like an absolutely fantastic Friday.

Speaker 36 And then things kind of went a little bit downhill.

Speaker 36 But I would say that making the cut and having that great day to get you to make the cut, I'm going to choose to look at this as a positive weekend for Max Oma.

Speaker 128 Oh, totally.

Speaker 128 I think he feels confident about his game. He got a little bit maybe exposed on Saturday, Sunday, which more challenging conditions.
And that's what major championships do.

Speaker 128 And have y'all looked at his scorecard yet on Sunday?

Speaker 62 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 52 Crazy. Big cat.

Speaker 128 Have you seen that, Big Cat?

Speaker 97 Yeah, it was all over the place.

Speaker 60 Okay. All right.

Speaker 128 Because if you hadn't, I was going to try to quiz you a little bit because

Speaker 128 being two over through,

Speaker 128 I think it was five holes and then shooting six over, but also making five birdies is the most psychotic scorecard I think I've ever seen. It is crazy.

Speaker 36 If you look at the circle, the

Speaker 36 cards that you see online with either the color-coded or the circles, it's just a very festive-looking scorecard.

Speaker 73 Yeah, the Christmas tree on the back night.

Speaker 39 We ride with him, so I had him, and on Friday, I was like, ooh, this is going to be incredible.

Speaker 76 But I mean, Friday's in there. That's the thing.

Speaker 35 I take away like, yeah, Friday was a great round.

Speaker 128 I mean, PFT, I think it reminds me a little bit of the Washington football team and the LSU Tigers.

Speaker 128 We could play some offense, like when Max Home of the offense is there, but unfortunately, the defense doesn't show up a timer too. That's kind of how it's been lately.

Speaker 36 Yeah, yeah but it's an entertaining brand of football yeah it sure is put points on the board yeah

Speaker 128 put butts and seats all right i got one last question

Speaker 139 in theaters tomorrow spinal tap is back time to make some noise with christopher guests michael mckeeon rob reiner and harry shear we're still short of drama why he sneezed himself into a plebeias spinal tattoo the end continues in theaters tomorrow my last question i'm going to give to hank hank uh do you have a question for Smiley about your game?

Speaker 39 Hank shot a 93 at a member guest on Friday.

Speaker 118 Nobody. Okay, Hank.

Speaker 123 All right. Humble brag.

Speaker 61 Yeah,

Speaker 61 I struggle making consistent contact and getting the ball in the air. I just hit a lot of thin shots.

Speaker 61 I don't know if you have any tips or any drills I could do to just try and get some more heightened in my shots. Good question.

Speaker 36 Have you considered starting to drink earlier?

Speaker 128 Maybe before you get to the golf course?

Speaker 61 Yeah, that happens.

Speaker 61 That's not usually usually the problem. That's usually taken care of.

Speaker 56 Okay, all right.

Speaker 128 Well, we just wanted to check that off, that box off first because that's where I would have started you, just to make sure that all of your limbs are, you know, firing on all cylinders.

Speaker 128 Man, I'd have to see it. You're going to have to, you have to send me a DM or text me just a video because I can take a peek.
I love looking at Big Cat swing. That's an easy one to

Speaker 128 diagnose.

Speaker 128 But a lot of times when guys can't get good contact and get the ball up in the air, for the most part, it's a pivot issue, meaning like your pivots not getting through the the golf ball you're using a lot of hands and your pelvis is moving into the golf ball i know i'm throwing all these words at you hank uh but i could simplify it if you can just send me a swing and uh we'll have you uh hitting making a divot out in front of the golf ball and making the ball go up in the air indeed all right great yeah thank you hank you got it we gotta help hank he's having trouble getting it up so we got to get those hips and everything going in the right direction yeah the pelvis i think you accurately diagnosed as being mostly a pelvis issue yes it's a pelvis issue that's right that's right

Speaker 131 um all right right.

Speaker 100 Well, Smiley, thank you, man. We love having you on.

Speaker 77 Appreciate it.

Speaker 11 And we'll talk maybe U.S.

Speaker 50 Open or Open Championship because you're covering both.

Speaker 128 You got it, guys. And I got to leave you with this.
I was on a plane. This was, I don't know how many months ago it was when y'all did the Andrew Luck interview.
And I'd fall asleep.

Speaker 128 A lot of times I'll throw it on y'all's podcast. And I'd fallen asleep and I woke up to Andrew Luck doing the snap count.
And not only did I wake up, I literally did one of these.

Speaker 128 And I know I couldn't have been the only person that that happened to, but man, that interview was great with Andrew.

Speaker 56 That was an all-timer.

Speaker 36 You should take that sound isolated, make it somebody's like alarm to wake up in the morning.

Speaker 128 It just, it threw me off, guys. It was good.
I love it.

Speaker 35 All right. Thanks so much, Smiley.

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Speaker 112 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 19 Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests from the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 118 It's Kyle Stowers, Tyler Phillips, boys in studio.

Speaker 115 You guys have been in Chicago for what feels like forever, playing the White Sox and the Cubs.

Speaker 18 First of all, how's the season going?

Speaker 7 I know the record's not great, but how's the season going overall?

Speaker 3 Vibes?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I think the vibes are still good. I mean, I feel like we're in a lot of these games, you know, and close to winning more of them.

Speaker 127 Obviously, you know, you want to win them, but, you know, I think we're pretty close. Yeah.

Speaker 107 Yeah. Yeah, man.
I can't complain. I mean, I'm new to the team.
Got here opening day, so building relationships with guys. But yeah, like you said, I think we're in all the games.

Speaker 5 So you guys both got traded recently.

Speaker 19 You got traded last year, Kyle.

Speaker 82 You got traded in the offseason from the Phillies.

Speaker 63 I got traded opening day.

Speaker 107 Opening day. Like the day before opening day.

Speaker 71 That's crazy.

Speaker 144 Was that like that had to kind of be a bummer?

Speaker 107 A little bit. But I mean, you know, I heard Miami.
I was like, oh.

Speaker 62 Cool. Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty nice.

Speaker 107 Yeah, you can't complain. There's definitely worse places to be.

Speaker 106 Is it like weird knowing that like at any point you could get traded?

Speaker 19 Is that feeling kind of just suck, like where it just doesn't go away?

Speaker 144 Where you're like, I never feel fully safe?

Speaker 7 100%.

Speaker 127 I was with family friends at dinner yesterday, and they were reading some article where I was talking about last year's trade deadline, and they thought I got traded again.

Speaker 27 Oh, and they're like, you just have moment where you're like, fuck, this is happening again.

Speaker 127 So, yeah, I mean, that's 100% a real thing. You know, I think in baseball that you just kind of, you kind of never know.
Yeah.

Speaker 36 How did you guys find out that you got traded?

Speaker 107 Um,

Speaker 107 I was trying to avoid it all spring. I was at options.
Um, I was with the Phillies, so kind of an impossible team to make if you're a rookie and you're not like the guy, right?

Speaker 107 Um, so it was kind of like inevitable for me, it felt like. Um, I just found out literally the last day of camp, like all my stuff was in Philly.
I shipped it all, thought I was making the team, um,

Speaker 107 like transitioning from a starter to a reliever. I was like, oh, cool.
And last day, like the sixth inning of the last game, they pulled me in the office, like, hey, hey, we claimed a guy.

Speaker 107 You're going to be traded. I was like, okay.

Speaker 123 What about my stuff? Yeah, right.

Speaker 102 Right.

Speaker 107 Yeah, it was definitely a weird scenario for me. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And you, Kyle, you knew you were going to get traded.

Speaker 38 You didn't know, but you had a good feeling in Baltimore that you were going to get traded.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I had a pretty good stretch of baseball with the Orioles last year, kind of around this time of year, and still kind of got sent back down.

Speaker 127 And after that, I was like, okay, well, maybe this won't be the place where I'd be for a while. And I was actually in the tubs when I found out.

Speaker 127 I had just gotten out of the Tubs, and they said, hey, Connor Norby and one other player got traded to the Marlins.

Speaker 127 And I went and checked my phone, and I had a missed FaceTime call from our GM, Mike Elias. And I was like, yeah, I think I'm the other player.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 101 Wait, so how about a positive thing?

Speaker 38 Because you guys both, how long were you guys both in the minors?

Speaker 127 19 to...

Speaker 127 22 and then 23 and 24. So yeah, and then Tyler, you were in the minors.

Speaker 119 I was a little bit longer.

Speaker 107 Yeah, 15. High schooler.

Speaker 67 So what was

Speaker 38 What was the moment like when they actually called you up?

Speaker 48 Because I love those videos.

Speaker 34 They're so awesome.

Speaker 102 Go first.

Speaker 127 Yeah, mine was unique. I was a COVID replacement player.

Speaker 107 So

Speaker 107 what does that mean?

Speaker 127 Yeah, so when the team traveled to Toronto, if the guys weren't vaccinated, they couldn't go.

Speaker 10 Oh, so this is like well after COVID.

Speaker 127 So yeah, so I was getting I was getting texts from like our travel guy like the week before he was like hey do you have your passport on you and so I was like looking at the schedule and I saw that Toronto was coming up.

Speaker 127 And I was like, oh, shoot, like this could be happening. And so, yeah, that's how I initially debuted.

Speaker 144 Did they do any like fun, fun video?

Speaker 16 I would just prank.

Speaker 75 If I were the manager, I would do all pranks for all the videos.

Speaker 109 Yeah, no, just fake them.

Speaker 19 I'd be like, we're sending you down. Just kidding.

Speaker 16 We're sending you up.

Speaker 127 Yeah, no, they didn't give me

Speaker 127 any special video. After me, they were starting to do like the call-up videos for guys.
And so, yeah,

Speaker 127 it wasn't as special as the other ones. What about you, Tyler?

Speaker 10 Did you cry?

Speaker 131 Did you cry?

Speaker 107 No. You cried? No.
I wanted to. I was trying to force it.

Speaker 27 I was trying to forge something out.

Speaker 10 There was no video.

Speaker 107 I didn't see a camera, so it didn't matter anymore.

Speaker 36 So I didn't send you back down if you cried when you get brought up, right? Like, it means so much to you. Yeah, dude.

Speaker 107 I mean, no, mine was weird, though. Like, it's, I took my opt-out.
So I had an upper mobility.

Speaker 90 Wait, what does that mean?

Speaker 107 I just, I told the team, hey, I'm not going up.

Speaker 107 want to take my chances being a free agent.

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 11 got it.

Speaker 107 Pretty much. Like, I had my opt-out.
um

Speaker 107 we i think we were in durham and like the week before korea was offering me um

Speaker 107 and it was like they were offering me like the max like for the prorated amount i think somewhere around there um that's just really far and i was stressing out like i just remember it um i was like sitting outside my hotel uh my family wasn't with me and i'm just like ripp pulling my hair out sitting on the steps like i don't know what to do like they wanted a decision i got a call like a tuesday morning they wanted the decision the tuesday night i was like i i need you guys to buy me more time.

Speaker 107 I think like Wednesday, I ultimately turned it down.

Speaker 107 Pitched Thursday, threw really well.

Speaker 107 And then the first of the month was coming up, July 1st. My agent said, like, hey, dude, like you turned Korea down.
We're taking your upper mobility, like your opt-out.

Speaker 107 So basically the team, the Phillies had to put me on the table for all the other teams to possibly take. And if anyone wanted me, then the Phillies had to decide if they wanted to protect me or not.

Speaker 107 Ah. So kind of.

Speaker 96 so if they protect you, then you go up automatically?

Speaker 107 Yeah, you have to be on the 26 miles.

Speaker 17 Oh, so you forced their hand.

Speaker 141 Kind of forced their hand.

Speaker 12 That's kind of baller.

Speaker 107 It felt weird because like I told my hedge, like, whatever, man, I trust you guys. And I knew, I think, like, the first day that teams were interested, and now it was up to the Phillies.

Speaker 107 So the second day,

Speaker 107 I was getting some calls like, hey, this might happen. Right.

Speaker 107 And there was like some weird scenarios where it was like, if you pitch this day, then you're going up with this team.

Speaker 107 If you pitch two innings this day, then you're going to be in the bullpen this day. And if you don't pitch at all, you're being traded.
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 107 So I'm just, again, still stressing out, don't know what's going on. And my manager called me on a double header day when I was supposed to pitch the night game.
And he said, where are you?

Speaker 107 I was like, I'm at home. It's 9.30.
Why would I be at the field? Like, I'm pitching at 7. He goes, well, what if we needed you? And I was like, why would you need me pitching at 7?

Speaker 107 And he's like, oh, well, would would the roster change? She's like, just get in here now. I'm like, my pitching coach texted me like, hey, like,

Speaker 107 like, where the fuck are you, man? Like, you got to be here. I'm like, oh, dude.
So I'm thinking they're canceling my start and I'm being traded. Showed up to the field.

Speaker 107 And they hit me with kind of like a, like, kind of like a prank like you were talking about. They hit me with, um,

Speaker 107 like, why weren't you here? Like, you're late. I was like, no, I'm not.
They said, well, you think you can do whatever you want? I said, no, I don't.

Speaker 107 Well, what do you think you're a big leader or something? I I said, yeah, I do. They're like, okay, well, good, because you are.

Speaker 102 Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 126 Like, I already knew.

Speaker 62 Like, I knew like two days before.

Speaker 107 So it wasn't like this magical thing. And then they didn't know what move they were making for me yet.
So I just sat at this.

Speaker 107 I sat in AAA for like another two days, not doing anything until the team was able to make a... roster move.

Speaker 38 Was everyone judging you being like, oh, you're

Speaker 38 a bad man.

Speaker 102 That's true.

Speaker 86 You're a big leaguer.

Speaker 82 I just thought I was lying.

Speaker 107 They said, what the fuck are you still doing here, man? What do you just like want to watch this series?

Speaker 102 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 127 The rules of, or the, like, just the roster rules of baseball is unbelievable to me. I've never heard of the upper mobility clause.

Speaker 127 You know, people always ask, how much longer are you going to be with this team? And I go, I don't know. They have control over me for forever.

Speaker 141 Yeah.

Speaker 10 It's so weird.

Speaker 107 It comes from them, too. Like, a lot of guys told me these never work.

Speaker 36 Yeah, because what would be the like if you if you do it and no one trades you then you're just shit out of life yeah pretty much yeah your team knows yeah no that they're like yeah fuck this it's like practice squad in the nfl except if you if you have a downside to making the practice squad, too.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that's crazy. With you, Kyle, you have a different story because when you got brought up, or you made the team after spring training, right? And then you just didn't play.

Speaker 36 So they were like, you know, we got to send you back down because you're not getting yet bats. Yeah.
So that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 36 It's like, I made it, but then through something outside of my control, I'm no longer in the big leagues.

Speaker 127 Yeah, that was 23 for me. I had a pretty good spring, made the team, and just wasn't playing.

Speaker 127 And, you know, I had a pretty good 22 and thought, you know, maybe I was going to get the chance to play more frequently.

Speaker 127 But

Speaker 127 obviously with the Orioles, there was a ton of good players. And

Speaker 127 definitely some mind games happens with that when you feel like you're doing everything in your control and then

Speaker 127 still not kind of cracking the roster consistently.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 10 What's it?

Speaker 120 I always wondered this in minor league baseball.

Speaker 24 Like, is it weird?

Speaker 120 You're playing with your teammates and these are guys that are your teammates, but you're also competing against them every single day.

Speaker 38 Is that a weird feeling to be like, hey, I know we're all on the same team here trying to win games, but at the end of the day, like I want to do better than you because I want to get called up before you get called up.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I mean, I think of it as kind of like an iron sharpens iron. You know what I mean? Like you're all trying to, you know, kind of lift each other up by pushing each other.

Speaker 127 And, you know, I've always kind of felt like for me that if I take care of my stuff, then like I'll end up where I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 107 Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think that anything good really comes from.

Speaker 107 like trying to compete with a guy like oh like i'm gonna beat you out like i think if you at least in my experience like i just try to help everyone, like, just being a good teammate, you're going to learn something from the next guy.

Speaker 107 And you don't know who you want people in your corner. Right.
You don't want to get people like, oh, like, this guy don't be, he's not a good teammate. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 40 I'm sure there are some guys in the minors who can feel it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they get frustrated.

Speaker 28 Probably. Did you guys ever have a moment where you're like, it's not going to work out?

Speaker 82 Like, I'm, I'm done with baseball.

Speaker 127 I feel like it happens semi-frequently, you know, a couple of different times, you know, whether it's performance or injuries. You know, I had a lot of injuries in the end of 23.

Speaker 127 I ended up getting like hit in in the face at the end of the year and felt very, very fast. I was fat

Speaker 127 by the pitch.

Speaker 70 Yeah, yeah, like how fast?

Speaker 127 Yeah, 93 fastball. Damn.

Speaker 120 Why don't you turn, dude?

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I would have ducked. That's a shitty thing for me to say.

Speaker 60 Hey, bro, did you think about turning?

Speaker 127 And then I actually wanted to show my toughness, so I just stayed in there a little bit longer.

Speaker 63 Yeah. Kept my eye on the ball.

Speaker 36 Bounced right back up.

Speaker 127 Like right, like kind of like in between my eye and my nose.

Speaker 36 Next time you get up to bat after that, that,

Speaker 36 it's got to be in your head a little bit, right?

Speaker 127 Yeah, so I missed like two weeks, and the rest of the year when I was facing lefties, I was like stepping out of the box like I was scared of the ball for, you know, for the rest of the season, which was only a couple more weeks, but it took me a little bit to get comfortable in there again.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that's a natural reaction, I would imagine. Like if there's something wrong with you, if you get back in, you're like, I'm not afraid of it.

Speaker 87 Yeah, hit me again.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I did a ton of stuff with, we had a bunch of like performance psychologists like with the Orioles or performance coaches and a couple of them worked with the Navy.

Speaker 127 And so, you know, it was also really humbling to talk to them about like something I was like scared of from a performance standpoint because they're, you know, like, it's also like, oh, like, you guys deal with people who actually deal with life and death.

Speaker 127 Right. And so

Speaker 127 put me in a little bit of my place. I love that.

Speaker 36 They're like, oh, you're afraid of the baseball. It's not a grenade button.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 41 You'll be doing live rounds.

Speaker 60 Have you, Tyler?

Speaker 1 Have you done sports psychology for pitching?

Speaker 16 I mean, pitching pitchers, I feel like that's such a mental game.

Speaker 107 It's pretty big, yeah.

Speaker 107 I was fortunate, like, with when I was with the Rangers when I got drafted, I had a really good peak performance coach over there. Um,

Speaker 107 just pushing, like, routines, pushing all, like, the, the mental stuff, um,

Speaker 107 staying confident. You know, it's like, it's weird.
Like, a lot of stuff goes hand in hand, like confidence and success. Like, confidence leads to success, success leads to confidence.
It's weird.

Speaker 107 But yeah, just staying on top of stuff.

Speaker 107 Like, I've been, I took up reading a little bit like once I had

Speaker 107 my Tommy John.

Speaker 107 Just finding a way to just get better.

Speaker 124 I took up reading.

Speaker 10 A little bit.

Speaker 12 What do you read?

Speaker 107 A lot of self-help books.

Speaker 107 Stuff that just helps the mind, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 29 Did you go straight from high school to

Speaker 107 AA?

Speaker 12 No, it was different.

Speaker 107 The game's different now. That's what everyone does.
I went. high school to rookie ball, AZL.
Okay. And surprise, Arizona.

Speaker 15 You didn't think about going to college?

Speaker 107 I don't think I could have.

Speaker 136 Oh, really?

Speaker 107 I did not take up reading at that time in my life.

Speaker 10 I mean, Kyle went to Stanford.

Speaker 120 Is he the smartest guy in the clubhouse?

Speaker 104 Are you? I don't know.

Speaker 119 Would you graduate at Stanford?

Speaker 10 I did. Would you graduate at Stanford?

Speaker 119 Communications?

Speaker 127 Okay.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you're the smartest.

Speaker 121 You're a communicator.

Speaker 129 Yeah.

Speaker 36 At Stanford,

Speaker 36 are the baseball players cool there or are the cool guys on campus, like the Silicon Valley, we're going to be heading some AI company next year, guys?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I would say probably probably probably more those guys the baseball guys you know people some people care about sports some people don't you know like you'd be surprised by how many people are not out on a Friday night yeah you know but did you meet any of those future billionaires you know I feel like I did not do a good enough job of networking there

Speaker 127 I was like kind of just in my own world trying to survive a little bit you should have given like cool kid classes yeah just been like come hang with the baseball yeah you want to see what how we party yeah just like learn locker room etiquette you always knew the athletes on campus because of the red backpack.

Speaker 127 If they had the red Nike backpack or like the Gatorade like water bottle, that's how you knew who the athletes were.

Speaker 69 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 36 You can't just go out and buy the red backpack. I think you can, but if you do, stolen vows.

Speaker 27 Yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 36 So, so, uh, Kyle, with you, you know, the importance of routines.

Speaker 36 We're talking about pitching, uh, but for hitting, I'm always fascinated by the different routines guys get into in the batter's box and how kind of the pitch clock might have screwed some of those up.

Speaker 36 Like, you look at dudes like back in the day, Nomar, would have like nine, ten different things. You can't do that with a pitch clock.
Now, how did you come up with your batting routine?

Speaker 127 Yeah, like pre-pitch. Yeah.
Like, yeah, for me, it's deep breath. And I look at the name on my bat.
I used to look at the logo when we had metal bats because it looked like a field.

Speaker 127 But now I look at the name on my bat and I just remind myself that I'm the same guy playing the same game and that, you know, nothing, nothing's changed. And I try to just get in the present moment.

Speaker 36 Just lock in, like tunnel vision. Yeah.
Yeah. So what about you on the mound?

Speaker 107 Yeah, I mean, that breath is important.

Speaker 107 I I don't necessarily love the pitch clock.

Speaker 107 But, you know, you get used to it.

Speaker 107 I think in the beginning, I was really sped up where, you know, especially out of the bullpen, like I was a starter before, so it's not that far of a run.

Speaker 107 I usually walk out of the bullpen or out of the dugout.

Speaker 107 But yeah, I get on the mound, and now

Speaker 107 you feel the heart rate going. You feel the adrenaline.
So you have to take, like, make sure the breath isn't fake. That makes sense.

Speaker 107 I just try to make sure that I'm doing it the dugout can see it even if they can't like it feels right um

Speaker 107 and then at that point you know you're in the game like it's it's you're going to war so my thing i took it from uh mike tyson um

Speaker 107 he always stared his opponent down in the eyes and when he when they broke eye contact he knew he won so that's kind of something that i do um

Speaker 107 I'm not as scary as Mike Tyson, but

Speaker 107 it makes me feel, makes me feel like, hey, like, it's on now.

Speaker 44 Remember the Madison Bum Garner with the ump stare down?

Speaker 93 Yeah, that was all.

Speaker 36 Which ump was that? Was that Angel?

Speaker 10 I can't remember.

Speaker 12 I don't remember.

Speaker 10 That went on for like a minute and a half.

Speaker 41 He just stood there staring about.

Speaker 107 I don't know how the umpire kept that going.

Speaker 102 Yeah, yeah, respect.

Speaker 120 Kyle, this is a dumb question because I'm assuming the answer is just going to be, it was fucking sweet.

Speaker 82 But

Speaker 19 how awesome was it to hit a walk-off home run?

Speaker 127 It was wild. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that was sad.

Speaker 116 Had you hit one before in any other

Speaker 103 level?

Speaker 141 Like at a summer ball of like

Speaker 127 in between college season during the summer, you play with a random team. And I did one then.

Speaker 127 Never in the big leagues had I hit a walk-off home run.

Speaker 70 And you hit it off a very good closer in Lisa Miller.

Speaker 102 Yeah,

Speaker 63 it was crazy.

Speaker 103 So when you hit it, did you go extra slow around the bases?

Speaker 3 I would take so long going around the bases if I hit a walk-off home run.

Speaker 30 It would take me like five minutes.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I mean, to your point, it's just like, you know, felt like I probably didn't soak it in enough. I hit it and I kind of knew it was getting over his head.

Speaker 127 I just was kind of watching to see if it was going to get over the fence or not.

Speaker 127 And kind of seeing this video, I kind of be like this weird point where I'm kind of going up and down, and I can't really tell if it went over the fence or not.

Speaker 127 But it was awesome.

Speaker 36 Yeah. How fast was that pitch that he threw you?

Speaker 127 It was 101.7.

Speaker 36 How was the fastest pitch that you ever, like, I'm sure that you've seen some fast pitches in games, but when you get in the cage, what's the fastest you've ever dialed it up to?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I feel like the machine, we try to dial it up to like over 100.

Speaker 127 Like, but, you know, it's just when you do it off the machine and you know it's a fastball coming, like you kind of like, you know, you can kind of predict a little bit more.

Speaker 127 Um, I don't think I've ever hit a ball over a hundred in a real game before, so that was cool.

Speaker 36 What was the exit VLO on that?

Speaker 127 I think it was 107.

Speaker 36 That's got to feel good. Yeah.
Do you even feel it when you hit it?

Speaker 127 No, you don't feel it off the bat. It's the best.

Speaker 16 It just goes with it.

Speaker 107 Oh, it's just your caught barrel, man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 127 There's no feeling like it other than going down the middle of the fairway. Yeah.

Speaker 127 That's the closest thing I think that is like that.

Speaker 36 When you hit a walk-up, I have to imagine that the trot around the bases is usually faster because you got the adrenaline. Which runs like, okay, yeah, you almost end up sprinting around the bases.

Speaker 36 But if you hit a go-ahead in the ninth, then you can kind of pimp it a little bit.

Speaker 68 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 127 I couldn't pimp that one. I didn't know for sure that I got it.
Miami's a little bit bigger of a park.

Speaker 127 That would have been the only thing that could have made it better is if I knew it right off the bat and got to kind of look at it for a little bit.

Speaker 36 You'll also never be the biggest pimp in that park because Marlin's man's there. Yeah.
Do you guys know? Do you guys know Marlin's Man?

Speaker 141 No, I feel like he doesn't come to our games.

Speaker 129 Is he still off the team?

Speaker 36 Like,

Speaker 37 is he away?

Speaker 36 They kind of fucked him over, though. Like, to be clear, yeah.
All he wanted to do was like throw out every first pitch. Yeah.

Speaker 120 He offered Dergier a blank check to basically run the Marlins.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 127 So you want to be the GM. Yeah.

Speaker 36 You want to have Marlins Man Appreciation Day at the park. He wanted like six tickets for him and his mermaids that he brings.
Yeah. It's really, yeah.

Speaker 127 All the reasonable stuff.

Speaker 36 Two things missing from the Marlins is the giant fish statue in center field.

Speaker 36 I know they moved it outside the park, but the giant fish that would jump in the air at a home run, and then Marlin's Man not being there.

Speaker 36 It's kind of, I yearn for the days of like 2018, you know, Marlin's man showing up to the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was, that was his heyday.

Speaker 120 I have a dumb hypothetical for you guys, and this works because hitter-pitcher.

Speaker 124 I don't know, you probably didn't see it, but last week, Ryan Presley, the Cubs closer, had maybe the worst outing I've ever seen.

Speaker 90 He gave up eight earned runs, a walk, five hits, zero outs.

Speaker 19 So 25 pitches, zero outs, eight earned runs.

Speaker 45 I think I honestly could get an out before that because it would fuck you up so bad that I'm throwing 55 miles an hour and like you'd probably fly one out.

Speaker 144 Do you think that's fair?

Speaker 107 I think that's fair.

Speaker 127 I mean, position players. Have you seen the position players when they come in? It's the weirdest thing.
Like, if usually when you bring in a position player, your team's giving up a ton of runs.

Speaker 127 Right. And the position player will come in and get three outs super quick, and everyone's just like

Speaker 57 doing that the whole time.

Speaker 141 So that has one of our good relievers.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 70 So you think that I could get a single out in a a big league game just be just and again, it's obviously not like I'm striking anyone out.

Speaker 90 It's just they would hit one to the warning.

Speaker 107 I think you get three outs. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Like honestly.

Speaker 129 I don't know if the Max has to do that.

Speaker 61 Somebody

Speaker 107 the ball is bound to go to somebody. Yeah.
Like there's no like it just goes against odds for the ball to just keep landing in the grass somewhere.

Speaker 129 Right.

Speaker 127 It's like the weirdest thing because like when you face a position player as a hitter, it turns into like this like fear-based thing of I don't want to strike out.

Speaker 127 What if I get out versus like, you know, when you're facing a real pitcher, you're like, you know, you're locked in.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 36 And you know that he's going to be actually planning his pitches and you can kind of like get inside and say, okay, this feels like a fastball. This feels like maybe some off-speed stuff.

Speaker 36 If it's a guy from the outfield, it's like, here comes some junk that I'm not going to have any idea, you know, how to hit. It's going to be 55 miles per hour.
Right.

Speaker 57 Yeah, no, we did.

Speaker 28 We have a dingers-only league, fantasy league, where it's just home runs

Speaker 111 because we don't really, like

Speaker 38 fantasy sports are just confusing and annoying after a while.

Speaker 19 So we just do home runs and loser has to pitch against a college team. Last year, PFT pitched against UIC.

Speaker 113 Did well.

Speaker 36 I think they scored three runs in two innings. Yeah, so I was pretty pumped about it.
Yeah. But again, I was like so slow.
I was pitching. I think it was like 68, 69.
Yeah. But I was pretty wild.

Speaker 36 Yeah, it was pretty nice. Big Cat was behind the plate, so I had a nice big target.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 70 I did drop a third strike, but threw him out after.

Speaker 119 I was going to say, pretty much double play.

Speaker 127 How bad did your arm feel after?

Speaker 36 It was very sore the next day. Very, very sore.
Yeah. Was that all you had?

Speaker 36 I gave it everything.

Speaker 107 Like you were letting it go.

Speaker 36 There were a couple where

Speaker 36 I was like, I'm really going to dial it up on that.

Speaker 138 I was so judgmental.

Speaker 102 Listen,

Speaker 102 I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 107 Like, the position players come in and just flip it. Like, I don't know.
I'm 40.

Speaker 36 I'm 40 years old. There were a couple where I'm like, you know what? I'm going to reach back and really let this one eat.
And I think those got all the way up to like 71.5 miles per hour.

Speaker 1 Wait, so Tyler, how fast could you throw just playing catch? Like, not even trying to throw hard?

Speaker 12 I don't know.

Speaker 17 You're probably in like the mid-70s.

Speaker 12 It's probably, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 107 If I'm taking it easy, probably.

Speaker 4 Wait, what's the fastest fastball you've thrown?

Speaker 107 97. Okay.
Yeah. That's pretty good.

Speaker 107 Trying to get it up there.

Speaker 16 That's pretty sick.

Speaker 36 When you guys were in little league, were you just dominant? Oh, yeah. You just like scaring people?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I was a really good little league pitcher. Good hitter, too.

Speaker 129 But I was, yeah,

Speaker 127 I think I threw 72 at 12.

Speaker 123 Oh, that's pretty good.

Speaker 107 I feel like if you're a major leaguer, you're probably the best little leaguer in your town.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 107 It just has to correlate that.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I know, but then there's some of those guys that

Speaker 119 grow early. Right.

Speaker 127 And then they'd stop growing after that 13, 14 years old. And then they kind of plateau.

Speaker 61 That wasn't always good.

Speaker 75 Hank was a great little leaguer and he, because he was also, he had like the age thing where he was the oldest.

Speaker 10 Good birthday. Yeah.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 107 I was younger. Yeah.

Speaker 107 I was like two years above for everything.

Speaker 82 Did you guys play other sports?

Speaker 127 Played basketball in high school.

Speaker 126 Were you good?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I was pretty good. I mean,

Speaker 127 I mean, I played a small, small high school, but I was decent. Yeah.

Speaker 36 Were other parents like scared of you when you were pitching? It's like, I don't want my son in the box against that guy.

Speaker 87 Me? Yeah.

Speaker 107 New Jersey baseball. I mean, I threw strikes, but I threw hard, so maybe.
Yeah. Maybe, yeah.
New Jersey, like if you're throwing over 90, you're like Nolan Ryan. Yeah.

Speaker 107 So.

Speaker 82 I feel like Southern California, like they just, everyone's a baseball player.

Speaker 56 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 16 They just, MLB players just sprout out of the ground there.

Speaker 107 Normal for them.

Speaker 141 Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 127 I actually have a, I remember when I was like in, not t-ball, but it was like when, you know, started being like player pitch, not coach pitch.

Speaker 127 And I remember crying one time because there was one guy who hit a person, and I was like kind of coming up next. And I remember like crying because I didn't want to get in the box.

Speaker 131 That's funny.

Speaker 127 That's probably like every bit of like six years old. But yeah,

Speaker 107 not good at dodging the ball. I got hit in the face.

Speaker 27 We got to work on that.

Speaker 36 I don't know what I could teach you some tips. I'm a big business.
Babby Gorsey. Yeah, I'm just terrified of the ball.

Speaker 102 Yeah, all the way back.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I'm really good at not getting hit by anything because I just don't even try. Hey,

Speaker 61 we threw this out there to the brewers.

Speaker 19 And I know, Kyle, you play in the outfield, so you can't probably do this, but Tyler, maybe you can.

Speaker 36 Why don't you guys do a hidden ball trick?

Speaker 102 Can you try?

Speaker 107 One time this year?

Speaker 107 Because it looks, it looks like, you look like a pussy, I guess. Yeah, but still,

Speaker 36 not if it works, though. Yeah.

Speaker 107 I had a kid try to do that for me in short season. Like, I was...
Throwing pretty well, and he came up to me. Like, someone got on third somehow, and he comes up to me.

Speaker 107 He goes, Tyler, give me the ball. I was like, why?

Speaker 131 Why?

Speaker 131 I'm pitching.

Speaker 107 I got to throw this ball. He's like, No, just give me it.
Trust me. And he walks.
I give him the ball. He walks over to third.
He stands there. And like, the ball's dead.
Like, it's not even in play.

Speaker 107 And he goes and tags the guy. And the umpire's like, What are you doing?

Speaker 107 So, like, I felt stupid. My coach was like, What the fuck are you doing, dude? Like, I'm like, Yeah, that's never happening again.
I will never let that ever happen.

Speaker 36 Especially in like short season.

Speaker 11 Yeah, like it doesn't matter.

Speaker 107 It doesn't matter at all.

Speaker 120 Have you ever successfully talked your manager out of not pulling you in a game?

Speaker 10 I love when pitchers do that. I think that's a Haas thing.
You got to try.

Speaker 107 I don't think it's ever worked because trying to protect you, especially how baseball is now.

Speaker 107 I feel like Tommy John's just like a normal thing.

Speaker 107 I've definitely tried.

Speaker 107 I didn't think Philly was going to let me go. I had my whole speech ready to go, too.
It was the eighth inning in my CG.

Speaker 39 You got a complete game shutout.

Speaker 107 Yeah, I had it all ready. I was sitting down down in the tunnel, like legs bouncing.
I'm like, if he comes in here and tries to pull me, I know what I'm going to say.

Speaker 107 Like, there's no way I'm letting this happen.

Speaker 107 But yeah, other than that, like, I don't think the managers will ever let you go. I even try here.
Like, I'm a reliever.

Speaker 10 Very likely.

Speaker 107 Nah, dude, I'm good. Like, let me keep going.
He's like, we need you tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 90 How fun is it in the outfield for relievers?

Speaker 75 Because I feel like that would be really fun.

Speaker 19 Like, the guys just hanging out.

Speaker 17 I know, obviously, once it gets later in the innings, you're like, oh, shit, someone's up.

Speaker 107 When I first got here, I was sticking the mud, man.

Speaker 107 I was so locked in like i'm like studying hitters because like i'm a starter like i was a starter and i didn't know how it all worked now i'm kind of keeping it loose like

Speaker 107 it's it's still the baileys like you still need to be locked in for the most part but like the minor leagues you know everyone's like beef gazing or whatever like just just trying to trying to see who trying to see who's out there like what the talent's like um

Speaker 107 yeah and now i just now i just mess around one of our bullpen catchers he came up from like high a or something and i just messed around with him the whole time. Just trying to learn Spanish.

Speaker 107 He's a Mexican kid. Try to learn some Spanish, teach him some English, a lot of bad words.

Speaker 36 Dude, yeah, bulletpen catcher. That's got to be the best gig.

Speaker 126 I mean, the kid was in Beloit.

Speaker 107 Is that what it is?

Speaker 123 Yeah,

Speaker 10 he was in Beloit.

Speaker 107 And, you know, he misses playing, obviously. Like, I love the dude so far, but you're in the big leagues, dude.
Like, you're, you're, he saw, he got to see L.A.

Speaker 107 He's in Chicago right now for a week.

Speaker 10 Good spreads, good food.

Speaker 141 Good hotels.

Speaker 59 Does he get treated like he's on the team or is it kind of...

Speaker 107 I mean, I try to treat him. Yeah.
Like, I mean, I

Speaker 107 buy the kid drinks at the hotel. Sometimes I'm like, come here.
Like, where are you going? Let's go. Yeah.

Speaker 107 You know, they take care of me. Yeah.
He's out there getting, taking a beating like every single night, like bullpens, whatever.

Speaker 107 I think that's probably honestly a pretty cool gig.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Would you used to get nervous on days that you had to start?

Speaker 107 Sometimes. Like, I think like depends.
Like, if if I had a bad outing, the one before, I'm like, oh, shit, here we go. Fuck, man.
I hope this doesn't go bad again.

Speaker 107 I think, like, Seattle last year, I got banged up, and I had LA, literally, like, the Dodgers, the next, the next series, or the next game. I was like, fuck.
Yeah. Dude, I got Shohei leading off.

Speaker 107 I was like, a little nervous, but once you throw the first pitch, you're good.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I feel like that's got to be a change mentally going from being a starting pitcher to a relief pitcher.

Speaker 36 It's like you could, any given day, you go to the ballpark, you could have the ball in your game.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 107 see that's see that's where it's different like starting i knew like i knew how to like it was like a buildup yeah relieving it's like

Speaker 107 you could go in at any point i don't like we don't have many like set roles with this team like everybody could go in at any point um i just know that i'm one of the longer guys but if they need me in a close game it's like you got to be ready for that and like you you feel the blood flowing i don't I think it's a little nerves, little butterflies, but it's a lot of just like the adrenaline.

Speaker 107 You just feel it like leaving your brain, just coursing through your body it's crazy do you pitch differently coming in as a reliever as opposed to getting a starting like if you're if you're starting the first inning top of the first you know who you're going to be facing yeah yeah i mean all the game planning is a starter i was talking to matt strom about it last year um

Speaker 107 said yeah starters like the swat team man like you get everything all the planning like you know the map of everything you know who's hitting what who isn't relievers you you pay attention to the game

Speaker 107 but he told me hey man just go in and throw your best shit like you got your plan If whatever you do to the lefties, do it with the lefties. Whatever you do to the righties, do it to righties.

Speaker 107 Like, just go out there and try to throw it as hard as you can. And

Speaker 107 don't bring the team VLO down.

Speaker 102 Don't bring the bullpen VLO down.

Speaker 107 And don't bring the URA up.

Speaker 113 I was like, okay.

Speaker 131 Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 3 Kyle, how many home runs are you going to hit this year?

Speaker 44 You have seven?

Speaker 127 Yeah, seven.

Speaker 61 I think so.

Speaker 114 You've hit two home runs in two separate games.

Speaker 116 So maybe we got to, I mean, keep doing that, but like spread it out a little, too.

Speaker 127 Yeah, no, I mean,

Speaker 127 it'd be a huge honor to get get drafted in that Dingers Only League.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay.

Speaker 127 Put my name in the hat there.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 87 I mean, seven home runs is not like that's you could be you could be a pick in that.

Speaker 127 I'm trying to try to put a little bit of an audition tape out for you guys.

Speaker 36 For sure, if it was Dynasty,

Speaker 92 it also helps that I have your phone number now because I might call you and do a draft video being like, hey, you want to play for my team?

Speaker 127 Kind of like what you guys did with Gunner last year.

Speaker 121 You want to get on the team?

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 78 So how many are you going to hit, though?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Make your pitch to us for the Dingers Only League.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I mean, seven home runs. I think, you know, it's a decent start.
You know, it's not necessarily a league leader, but I think it's a good number.

Speaker 127 You know, I've always considered myself to get better as the year goes on. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 18 Because the league doesn't start till July. Yeah.

Speaker 129 We just let half the season.

Speaker 127 So what if I made a promise to save some? Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 41 That's good. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 102 That's going to a couple posts.

Speaker 36 Yeah. Post-all-star breakout.

Speaker 70 You do need to get a, you need to be in, to basically be drafted in the Dingers Only League is like somewhere in July, you need to be in like the top 10 in your position group because that's basically how we draft is everyone just looks at how many buttons have been hit and it was like, all right, that guy's going to keep doing that.

Speaker 127 So, like, if I hit my grand slam like right before the draft, that would have been like huge.

Speaker 41 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 36 Yeah, but that's almost too huge because I don't want to have to compete against anybody to draft you.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Like, I want you to be my hidden gem that I picked. Yeah.
But yeah, if you got to hit a couple grand slams, then I would probably encourage that.

Speaker 127 Yeah. I mean, in all seriousness, I think like 20 is a cool number, but I think I have the ability to do more than that.

Speaker 107 But bullpen's been talking. We're putting a bounty out for like 35.

Speaker 126 I'm serious, dude.

Speaker 107 We play the hat game out there. There's a hat down for you every single ep-at.
Oh, yeah, I know. Not to put pressure on you, but that is $20 coming out of all of our pockets.
Yeah.

Speaker 127 Well, I mean, if I started to play poorly, I'll just blame you guys then.

Speaker 107 Okay, yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 10 I'll take that. Absolutely fine.

Speaker 107 If you ever need BP, we got you, too. Yeah.

Speaker 120 Tyler, we got to bring up your son hates Blooper.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 125 Is he scared of him or he hates him?

Speaker 107 Maybe a little bit of both. Shit.

Speaker 120 We can't show weakness.

Speaker 107 Maybe a little bit of both. He just hates him.
Well, now he's getting bigger, so I think he understands. Right.
Like, I've tried to groom him into a fat. Blooper's getting bigger.

Speaker 10 I mean, he's fat.

Speaker 12 Blooper's a fat fuss.

Speaker 107 Yeah. No, my son's getting bigger.

Speaker 107 He's getting a little bit more brave with mascots. Okay.

Speaker 107 And I've had the conversation with my girl, too.

Speaker 107 She thinks I'm lying.

Speaker 107 I don't know. You guys found an article.
Was it in an article that I said?

Speaker 102 Yeah, I think you say, yeah, you had it.

Speaker 123 She would have told me that.

Speaker 107 I was playing. How would I know? But yeah, I just, I think he just doesn't, doesn't fuck with it, man.
Like, I've groomed him to like the fanatic, man. That's my guy.

Speaker 54 That's like a smart kid, a four-year-old being like, I don't fuck with that.

Speaker 113 He doesn't poop.

Speaker 107 He doesn't like any mascots, but the fanatic he's friendly with. Okay.
Like a little bit more so than the others. Yeah.

Speaker 36 Yeah. So you said after your MLB debut about your son, he was crying after the game.
I was hoping it was happy tears, but he was really just scared of the Braves mascot.

Speaker 102 Yeah,

Speaker 123 that sounds about right.

Speaker 107 Like, he doesn't watch.

Speaker 107 Now, I hope he watches the games now, but he wasn't watching then.

Speaker 107 He just wanted to play.

Speaker 102 Where's the playground?

Speaker 107 Where's the playground? Give me some treats. Where's the cotton candy? That's all he cared about.
Yeah.

Speaker 46 The treats at games.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I take my kids to games, and it's just like, I have to basically have a manager having

Speaker 144 a set plan for the game, being like, all right, first thing, we're doing hot dog.

Speaker 116 Third inning, we're going to do some candy.

Speaker 116 Fourth inning, maybe we'll mix mix in a pretzel.

Speaker 107 I couldn't even imagine what it's like for my girlfriend, like,

Speaker 107 to even try to manage that. Luckily, like the Phillies,

Speaker 107 they had a daycare system going on there. So they had their kids' playroom.

Speaker 107 He was just there, and she got to sit back and relax for once.

Speaker 107 But the minor league games, that's got to be miserable. Yeah.

Speaker 36 What's the biggest difference behind the scenes for you guys? Going from minor leagues to major leagues? Like the spread in the clubhouse. Yeah.

Speaker 123 The spread is definitely huge. Yeah.

Speaker 141 Spread.

Speaker 127 You're flying commercial like you're usually flying out like 6 a.m on mondays oh dude um the bus rides were brutal yeah longer bus rides uh

Speaker 107 locker rooms aren't as nice hotels aren't as nice um food's not as nice yeah you pretty much just turn into a king like overnight yeah it's like like you it's

Speaker 107 pays less yeah pays less what who's got the best clubhouse in the majors

Speaker 127 I'd say for a visitor,

Speaker 127 Yankees or Rangers. I've heard the Yankees.

Speaker 107 The Rangers brand new. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yankees just have their food.

Speaker 127 The visiting food there is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 Do you think they do that on purpose, trying to fatten you guys up?

Speaker 56 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 127 Slow you down.

Speaker 36 What was the spread?

Speaker 127 It's always like some form of steak, fish, and like chicken. And then sometimes there's like a pasta bar, and then there's a carving station.
It's crazy.

Speaker 36 Do you have carvings? I would get so fat.

Speaker 120 Do any teams have like a frozen yogurt machine?

Speaker 61 Two of them.

Speaker 57 The

Speaker 129 Red Sox. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 127 And the one we just won, Seattle.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 134 That's sick.

Speaker 127 They got like Oreos and ⁇ Ms and shit.

Speaker 119 That's so sick.

Speaker 107 The guys have been trying to get one.

Speaker 107 They've been trying to get one in Miami.

Speaker 7 I want to be in Major League Baseball just for the ice cream.

Speaker 10 Just for spread.

Speaker 36 That's pretty sick. It's like a golden corral every time you go to a different ballpark.

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 107 I mean, you always have options. It's crazy.

Speaker 19 How long after a game does it take you guys to actually wind down and go to sleep?

Speaker 56 Is it like are you wired for a long time?

Speaker 107 Yes. I mean, pitching, yes.
I don't know how you guys are because you play every day, but pitching, once you're out there, I mean, you're

Speaker 107 at the earliest, it's like two o'clock. Really? Yeah, like you're just wired.
I usually just go home, get on the game or something, wire myself up a little bit more

Speaker 141 until the crash happens.

Speaker 127 Yeah, I usually stay up till about probably one,

Speaker 127 stay at the clubhouse for a little bit while after to try to wind down so I don't bring anything home to my wife. Yeah, that's smart.

Speaker 107 That's a big thing, man. That's very smart.
Like a lot of guys try to rush out. Like, I don't know what you're rushing to.

Speaker 102 Because we usually like to get in the middle of the day.

Speaker 107 We've been in there. Yeah.
Yeah. And it's 30 minutes after the game.
Like, where is everyone? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 107 But I picked that up from NOLA. Like, he had his, he had his little corner.

Speaker 107 He had a little whiskey corner where a lot of the guys would just go over there and you just decompress, talk the game. Right.
It's good for team building, too. Yeah.

Speaker 127 I like talking about the game for sure with someone. Yeah.

Speaker 36 What game do you play when you get home?

Speaker 107 A lot of them, mainly COD. Yeah.
Nice.

Speaker 129 You got a squad. Nice.

Speaker 107 A couple boys back home. Yeah.
Big Soldier, Ben Mercks. I'll shout him out.
That's my guys. I got Demayonnaise.
Yeah.

Speaker 102 Demones?

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 107 A couple boys from back home.

Speaker 57 Shout out to Mayonnaise.

Speaker 36 Demandes, you said Big Soldier. Big Soldier.
Yeah.

Speaker 107 Soul, like S-O-U-L. Of course, yeah.

Speaker 69 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 107 Love that. Yeah, man.

Speaker 107 We get going. Those are my late-night guys.

Speaker 107 Demonese is married now, so

Speaker 102 he's the daytime guy.

Speaker 41 Oh, I would have loved to have seen Demanes' wedding.

Speaker 107 Just Mayo everywhere.

Speaker 27 Just mayo on mayo.

Speaker 68 Yeah.

Speaker 107 Yeah, man. It's a lot of gaming.

Speaker 107 That's like one of my vices. Yeah.

Speaker 122 Max, do you have any questions for these guys?

Speaker 116 Because Max at one point wanted to be a big leaguer.

Speaker 61 He played college ball at Hofstra.

Speaker 19 Matt stares with the CAA.

Speaker 23 No big deal.

Speaker 16 Do you have any questions about

Speaker 11 big league life?

Speaker 109 I mean,

Speaker 109 I didn't really have many questions about big league life, to be honest.

Speaker 57 I mean,

Speaker 109 I never really thought I was going to be a big leaguer. I just wanted to play college college baseball just to like tell people I played college baseball.

Speaker 109 And then when I got there, I was like, this sucks.

Speaker 107 That wouldn't be the first time I heard that. No, yeah.

Speaker 109 So I played two, I played redshirted one year, played one year, and I was like, this is, this is it for me. Summer, you said summer ball, summer ball is the worst.

Speaker 127 The first year, I didn't want to do it, and then I just didn't play my freshman year a lot. And I was like, okay, I have to do it.

Speaker 125 Why is summer ball the worst?

Speaker 3 Just because you're living

Speaker 109 so much baseball all year round, and and you're like waking up at 5 a.m. And then you finally finish the season and you're like, nice, summer's here.

Speaker 109 And then it's like, nope, you have to move to like Wisconsin.

Speaker 127 Live with a host family.

Speaker 109 And live with a host family and play every single day again.

Speaker 36 What's that like moving into just a totally random stranger's house and being like, hey, I'm kind of going to be a son for you for two months?

Speaker 127 I've been pretty lucky with my experiences, but it is different. It's just weird going into it.

Speaker 127 You know, and you're kind of just like you have your bag and you walk in and you're like, well, nice to meet you. And

Speaker 35 do those guys, do those families get paid?

Speaker 84 Do they get a stipend?

Speaker 127 I think so. They get like, they get something, some form of compensation.

Speaker 107 Yeah, I think they're just, they're big fans, too. Yeah.
I did it in the minor leagues, short season.

Speaker 127 You hear some crazy stories about like guys like staying with like families that have like daughters.

Speaker 127 You hear some crazy stories.

Speaker 82 There was a one, I threw out a first pitch when we used to live in New York in the Hamptons, and that seemed like a pretty good summer league.

Speaker 30 That'd be a good one.

Speaker 120 Probably not very competitive, but it seemed like those guys were living a pretty good life.

Speaker 3 Well, the Cape Cod's a big one.

Speaker 127 Yeah. That's a great place to be.
Yeah.

Speaker 36 You got like three teenage daughters, and then you invite a baseball player into your house. I feel like there's something going on with that dad.
Yeah. He just really wants a ball player grandson.

Speaker 102 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 119 What were you going to say, Max?

Speaker 109 The Hamptons was like the summer league transplant of like all the kids on my team.

Speaker 109 And I like chose not to do the Hamptons league. Why? Well, I went to California.
I played in the West Coast League. Yeah, that's right.
I played there. Yeah.
And I thought that it was going to be

Speaker 109 way better baseball.

Speaker 107 But

Speaker 75 it was brutal.

Speaker 109 I lived in this house with like 15 other guys.

Speaker 127 What teams do you play for? The San Francisco.

Speaker 109 We weren't even like a.

Speaker 109 It was also this guy pitched me on the West Coast League. It wasn't a real West Coast League team.

Speaker 107 Oh, okay.

Speaker 109 It was the San Francisco Seals. Stephen Kwan was on my team, though, so that was cool.

Speaker 107 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 127 That kind of sounds like the California league.

Speaker 109 I don't know. We played teams on the the West Coast, in the West Coast.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 128 But

Speaker 109 we had like 10 guys living in one house with like the GM. Sounds like a good time.

Speaker 107 And it was like, no, it was not a good time.

Speaker 62 It was a bad time.

Speaker 10 I feel like the bad time.

Speaker 109 But like everyone else on my team played in the Hamptons League with the sickest setup ever. My one buddy lived in a guest house of this like super rich person on the beach.
So he had his own house.

Speaker 109 on the beach in the Hamptons and then he played he was a pitcher he like pitched every fifth day every fifth day and then just chilled so hard

Speaker 107 sounds like a big leader

Speaker 127 is the point of summer ball if you're if you're a hitter just to track pitches all the time because if you don't track pitches you kind of that's a big part that you lose yeah I think you just like generally speaking in baseball for hitters is just getting as many at-bats as you possibly can and so like you see guys like if they get injured like and miss a lot of the season they'll go play winter ball now and like the DR or something like that so I think it's just always about getting as many at-bats as you possibly can because pitchers need more rest time for their arms and hitters you you can just keep going.

Speaker 36 Yeah, we were talking to Schwarber when he came.

Speaker 36 It was after he came back from his ACL, and he said that when they were thinking about bringing him back up for the playoffs, he just stood in the batter's box and would track like a thousand pitches, not even swing, just to like watch pitches come in.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 36 What's the longest you've ever been without stepping into the box, whether it's against the machine or a person?

Speaker 127 Yeah, I'd say during the offseason, I usually don't pick up a bat from October till I try to get as close as I can to January because like when my mind, when I start picking it back up, I can't stop thinking about it.

Speaker 127 Yeah. So usually about two months, I'd say.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 90 This has been awesome, guys.

Speaker 82 I got one last question.

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Speaker 120 This is a good question because you guys are obviously in different spots during the game. Kyle, you're in the dugout.

Speaker 103 Teller, you're out in the bullpen.

Speaker 29 If there's a brawl,

Speaker 90 what's your move when you, when you, I love the bulb, when the bullpen runs out, it's always so funny because you guys are always so late and it's just like it's already over But what's your move?

Speaker 90 Are you trying to brawl or are you just are you just going and just trying to separate things?

Speaker 10 Have you been part of one?

Speaker 127 Um I've been a part of benches clearing we I can't remember who it was with me. I think it was the blue jays when I first got called up and

Speaker 127 I was in the cage because when you're coming off the bench, you're kind of getting ready to pinch it potentially. And,

Speaker 127 you know, the inning ends. We see it on like the live feed.
So I'm like strolling down the stairs. I get down the stairs and everyone's out of the dugout.

Speaker 127 And I see everyone's on the field, and I like run on. You kind of see me running on late, and I was getting texts from people going, Oh, like, you're the last one out of the dugout for

Speaker 127 benches, clearing. Yeah, so I think my goal is just to get out there early, yeah.

Speaker 36 Get out there early, try to find work, look busy, yeah, guys are out there, like find one guy that you can just kind of grab his shirt, yeah, hold one guy a little bit, yeah, maybe, maybe say a couple like obscenities, and that's that's you know, dude.

Speaker 107 I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind getting in a big old fight.

Speaker 57 Yeah, I've never been in, but then you got to get out there earlier because

Speaker 10 the moment is late.

Speaker 107 Just before the pitch is even thrown, just start running at the pitcher. Yeah.

Speaker 36 Like, I can feel it's about to go down.

Speaker 127 John Boy had a breakdown of the Orioles and the Yankees one recently, and you see the bullpen, like the Yankees waiting for the Orioles guys to get down the stairs, and then like they're all like running right next to each other.

Speaker 10 It's like, hey, we could just square up right here.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 107 There's two fights going on. I wouldn't mind it, though.
Like,

Speaker 107 I've had a lot of thoughts about this.

Speaker 107 For some reason, as a starter, like when I was on the mound, if it was me, I think that I'm like John Wick. Like the guy's going to come at me with a bat.
I'm going to catch it under my arm.

Speaker 113 Ryan.

Speaker 107 But yeah, no, I mean.

Speaker 36 It's good to be mentally prepared.

Speaker 107 You've got to be mentally getting on. I took some jiu-jitsu during spring training.
Yeah, the Phillies had a guy there, so I'm ready.

Speaker 107 You might see me just crawling on the ground, just scooting around.

Speaker 107 Nah, I'm ready. I'm ready for whatever.
I want to get in one.

Speaker 107 The shoving or just like the

Speaker 107 bouncing around in a circle just it doesn't do it for me.

Speaker 36 You want to be with the actions.

Speaker 36 You got to make an arrangement with the opposing bullpen before the game. Like, hey, if shit goes down, it's, it's you and I.
It's like hockey's in goalie.

Speaker 123 You got to pick the biggest guy.

Speaker 131 Yeah.

Speaker 107 You either pick the biggest guy or don't show up.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 90 All right. Well, guys, thank you.

Speaker 116 This has been really, really fun.

Speaker 82 Best of luck rest of the season.

Speaker 90 And yeah, Kyle will hopefully be giving you a call when the Dingers only.

Speaker 87 Dingers only do.

Speaker 36 You ever sprint the first base on a walk?

Speaker 127 No, I love when people do that. That's a big thing.

Speaker 36 That's a good thing for my team.

Speaker 36 When we're scouting guys, that's the number one thing we look for.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Usually I kind of like throw my stuff, like a little bit of like pissed off that I don't get to hit. That's kind of like, you know, kind of like try what the vibe I try to get.

Speaker 127 But I'm going to take that into account. Yeah.
Put my bat down and just sprint. That would take off my stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 36 If you just do it once, I think that's enough to get you to the top of my big board. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 107 Or for the fight, maybe just walk to first.

Speaker 11 Just do it.

Speaker 107 Just piss the pitcher off. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Walk real slow.

Speaker 36 Because you're pissed off that he walked you.

Speaker 78 Like literally go in slow motion.

Speaker 57 My work, man.

Speaker 67 All right.

Speaker 77 Thanks, boys.

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Speaker 117 All right, let's wrap up.

Speaker 97 Max

Speaker 99 bachelor party.

Speaker 70 Give it to us. How was it?

Speaker 6 It was great. It was great.

Speaker 109 How's the ankle boys' weekend?

Speaker 109 The ankle is better, is better. We were playing some backyard football.

Speaker 109 I was playing quarterback. You know, we had like a three-Mississippi rush to quarterback rule.

Speaker 109 The pass rush came. I tried to do a little cut, and then

Speaker 109 I rolled my ankle one way, and then I tried to get back to it, and then I rolled it the other way.

Speaker 36 Max coming back with a foot injury was like minus 6,000.

Speaker 109 Yeah, yeah, but it feels a lot better today. I'm walking pretty normally.

Speaker 109 Did you get up?

Speaker 57 You were laying it on.

Speaker 78 Yeah, you were laying it on so thick.

Speaker 61 You like skipped into the office today.

Speaker 53 The clip you posted on Saturday, I was like, oh, he's out for like a month.

Speaker 109 That's how I felt. That's 1,000% how I felt.
Did you see the picture of it?

Speaker 109 It was massive. And

Speaker 102 the entire bottom of my ankle.

Speaker 61 It might just be your ankle.

Speaker 5 It was purple.

Speaker 109 You think my ankle is just purple?

Speaker 10 Might be. Might be.

Speaker 119 That'd be Frank the tank.

Speaker 39 Did you make any lifelong friends?

Speaker 109 Yeah, of course. Who knows?

Speaker 37 Who knows?

Speaker 36 Shout out to the AWLs.

Speaker 41 Yeah, of course, who knows?

Speaker 36 Tell us about the setup.

Speaker 109 It was about as

Speaker 109 cabin in the woods vibe as you could possibly put cabin in the woods.

Speaker 97 Best bachelor's part.

Speaker 36 So it was a cabin in the woods is what I'm hearing. Yeah.

Speaker 10 But like when I say

Speaker 109 we had to go to a Walgreens on Saturday, or whatever, we had to go to a pharmacy on Saturday morning.

Speaker 109 You could say Walgreens.

Speaker 109 The closest pharmacy was 25 minutes away.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that's the best basher party.

Speaker 87 So when you're with your boys and there's not like a, oh, like, let's go out to this bar and then everyone gets, you know, separated.

Speaker 75 It's like just the boys hanging.

Speaker 109 It was great.

Speaker 109 We played beer dart where everyone just sits in a circle on a lawn and then we all had trulies in front of us and then we were throwing darts at each other.

Speaker 109 And if you hit the dart, you got to drink the truly.

Speaker 109 We played football.

Speaker 72 We played wiffle ball.

Speaker 10 Wiffleball's the best.

Speaker 109 People were playing hoops. And then we just did like a bunch of drinking games.
It was great. It was, you know, it was great boys bonding session.

Speaker 61 Did you make a speech?

Speaker 109 Oh, did you make a speech? But I made no speech. There were no speeches by anyone.

Speaker 40 Do you think you represented us well?

Speaker 38 Like, they walked away from it being like, Max is a cool guy.

Speaker 19 Those guys are awesome.

Speaker 109 Of course.

Speaker 109 We had a great time. We started putting on like YouTube highlights

Speaker 109 at the end of the night. We watched like John Wall highlights,

Speaker 109 Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 109 It was the perfect, like,

Speaker 109 and it was the perfect summation of a boy's night.

Speaker 65 Yeah, and then what about the wild card?

Speaker 109 The wild card was crazy. The wild card was everything I was expecting the wild card to be.

Speaker 109 He wore a dart to his ankle and he just kind of like let it sit there. We have a PM TV coming out on Thursday.

Speaker 10 Love that.

Speaker 109 Jack actually got that part on camera.

Speaker 36 So you guys were playing lawn darts and then somebody got hit in the ankle with a long dart and they were just like, fuck it.

Speaker 111 We ball.

Speaker 109 Yeah, he also chose to go barefoot when everyone else was wearing like long pants and shoes. He was wearing shorts and no feet nor socks.
Love that.

Speaker 11 He had no feet. Or no shoes.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 No feet.

Speaker 109 That would have been crazy if he had no feet. That's a true wild card.
That would have been crazy if he had no feet. No, it was good.

Speaker 109 I wish I could have played paintball on Saturday morning, but I'm telling you, yesterday this morning, I couldn't walk.

Speaker 2 All right, so we should see how this video does.

Speaker 17 If it does well, maybe we'll run it back for another punishment because it seems like it was a good time and it was good time for the AWLs.

Speaker 109 Yeah, no, I think it was good all the way around.

Speaker 56 That's awesome.

Speaker 15 Good job, Max.

Speaker 63 Yeah, love my voice.

Speaker 36 And he's walking pretty much actually normally.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 64 He's fine.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 102 You're fine.

Speaker 107 You guys are the worst.

Speaker 87 What do you mean?

Speaker 31 I walked in today thinking that you were going to be like on crutches and you didn't have a limp.

Speaker 71 I know.

Speaker 109 I felt like that's good.

Speaker 3 I wasted like thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 57 No, I walked in dad practicing post-moves.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 102 What?

Speaker 24 You were.

Speaker 32 You were doing the dream shake on the baseline.

Speaker 109 Now we're lying.

Speaker 10 Now we're in fiction.

Speaker 114 Now we're in fiction.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 117 Oh, Hank.

Speaker 11 We didn't ask.

Speaker 19 Did you have any last thoughts for Mr. Ping Pong?

Speaker 61 No.

Speaker 27 What?

Speaker 77 A worthy adversary, at least?

Speaker 61 Worthy adversary, yeah.

Speaker 61 He earned that win.

Speaker 61 Shouldn't have taken game five off, but

Speaker 61 he, you know, he made good content. He won fair and square.

Speaker 36 Have you moved on from thinking that he's around every single corner?

Speaker 61 Yeah, I'm happy I don't have to see his nonsense anymore. Yeah,

Speaker 27 I'm always here.

Speaker 131 I'm never leaving. I'm inside of you.
I'm like a parasite.

Speaker 66 I'm so fucked up.

Speaker 27 This is so fucked up.

Speaker 27 Oh.

Speaker 41 He took all this energy.

Speaker 133 I want to make a promise to Hanky and all the AWLs. This is it.
Mr. Bing Bong's gone.
Thank Christ. He has no connection.

Speaker 138 So you're just giving up on the season?

Speaker 86 No, well,

Speaker 101 he's found a different show.

Speaker 133 Yeah, I'll be moving on to another barstool show called Mostly Sports, where they're a co-host. I'll tell you, though, I don't, and this is no offense to anyone who works on mostly sports

Speaker 133 they're so

Speaker 131 nice like i i'm feeling like like

Speaker 128 bing bonging hank is like something the entire internet needed me to do

Speaker 133 they were all rooting for me but with titus i'm getting like messages like

Speaker 133 Don't be too mean to Titus, Mr. Bing Bong.
He's a nice fellow.

Speaker 36 Yeah, if it was Brandon, then I think you could go even harder.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 55 But it's tight. Also,

Speaker 35 Jerry,

Speaker 17 and I want Hank to you and Hank to put a cap on the series, but just as a side,

Speaker 35 my feelings were hurt today, what you did to me.

Speaker 10 That was fucked up.

Speaker 133 Hey, listen, I was at a Girls Beach volleyball tournament, watching my daughters lose

Speaker 134 every single game.

Speaker 102 No, no.

Speaker 133 And you, in one text, said, no. Can we have you on tonight?

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 59 So for the AWLs, this is what Jerry thinks of you.

Speaker 54 He's thrown us to the side.

Speaker 122 I was sexting with PFT and Jerry, and I was like,

Speaker 20 Jerry said, hey, can we get, can I get Titus's phone number?

Speaker 80 And I was like, yeah, no problem.

Speaker 77 I made a light joke being like, no problem.

Speaker 15 We'll have Josh Dumel on to talk about the Knicks this series.

Speaker 2 We don't need you anymore.

Speaker 23 I mean, we would take you, but we don't need you.

Speaker 39 You've just gone on.

Speaker 122 And then I said, hey, can you come on tonight to a final blow to Hank?

Speaker 15 And no response. No response.

Speaker 27 And then I put him on.

Speaker 117 No, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 77 Then I put him on a text with TJ, the producer of mostly sports, being like, hey, TJ, here's Jerry.

Speaker 96 Jerry, TJ.

Speaker 65 You know, we're family here.

Speaker 76 Want to make the connection so that Jerry can go on mostly sports. Jerry responds to TJ instantly, being like, whenever you need me.

Speaker 77 Still no response on the text with me and PFT.

Speaker 122 And then I texted PFT on that text chain.

Speaker 15 I was like, Jerry's responding to another text chain and not responding to us here.

Speaker 76 It's hurting my feelings. And then like an hour pass, and he responds again to TJ and not to us.

Speaker 36 You know who's really good at responding to textbook?

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Adam Schefter. Yeah.

Speaker 55 Good points.

Speaker 10 Really, really good.

Speaker 41 Good point.

Speaker 36 That guy never puts his right.

Speaker 110 He's got two of them.

Speaker 36 Points. Two phones.

Speaker 102 Oh, my God. PFT, you're so.

Speaker 36 I forgot that Jerry was here. Sorry, Jerry.

Speaker 133 Listen, in my defense, a lot was happening today. That Mexican ship crashed into the Brooklyn Bay.

Speaker 102 True. Yep.

Speaker 102 Good point.

Speaker 133 Homeboy got prostate cancer.

Speaker 102 I was like, look that shit up. Oh, Caleb.

Speaker 86 But your phone worked for TJ.

Speaker 133 Listen, I'm so sorry. I actually missed that text that was in there.
Again, I was outside. It was very bright.
Yeah.

Speaker 50 Instantly responded to TJ.

Speaker 10 Oh, no, no. No, no, no.

Speaker 86 He's in the middle of a parking lot.

Speaker 3 I don't know where the fuck he is.

Speaker 36 I love that he's always got his car behind him. Yeah.

Speaker 78 We just lost him.

Speaker 70 All right, what were you saying?

Speaker 133 I was saying it was really bright. I couldn't see anything.
The second I saw that you would text me, ask me to come on. Of course, you guys are my first love.
But I do have a little bit of an issue.

Speaker 133 I texted Tege and I was like, hey, TJ, I'd love to come on Titus. And TJ was like, well, let me talk to everybody and see if we want Mr.
Ping Pong. I was like,

Speaker 133 fuck you, man. Like,

Speaker 77 listen, you always have a home.

Speaker 59 You always have a home here.

Speaker 133 Thank you. Listen, I didn't mean anything.

Speaker 133 I just didn't see the text, big cat. You know, you're my first love.
Like, I literally,

Speaker 28 when that hotline ran twice, it happened twice, and there was multiple texts that he didn't see.

Speaker 39 And also, he was replying to TJ.

Speaker 2 Wow, wow, I sent he replied to TJ, then I sent another text he didn't see, then he replied to TJ again.

Speaker 10 In the glare, though, right?

Speaker 69 There was glare.

Speaker 71 So he was seeing something.

Speaker 133 Yeah. Okay, listen, uh, listen to Big Cat.
You used to call me on your cell phone.

Speaker 135 All right, so

Speaker 133 I need, oh, but listen, listen.

Speaker 133 Before we put Mr. Bing Bong to sleep, don't worry, AW Wells.
Mr. Bing Bong's done.
Next time you see me, I'll be doing a fantasy recap by myself. It'll be great.

Speaker 134 That's also not true.

Speaker 77 If the Knicks go to the finals, we want Mr.

Speaker 78 Bing Bong.

Speaker 133 Listen, I do have to say, I read all the comments. AW Wells, I read your comments, and some people are really sick of Mr.
Bing Bong. Okay.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 117 Like Hank.

Speaker 57 Hank's writing those. You're a lot of person.
Yeah, you're,

Speaker 61 you, you just listen, whatever way the wind blows is whatever you're doing. Like, I'm retiring, Mr.
Bingbong. Oh, he's back because I got one comment.

Speaker 108 Hey, listen, I took one game off.

Speaker 133 I didn't feel it would be right to do that to Jason Tatum.

Speaker 134 Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 61 I sent fucked up voice notes to them privately.

Speaker 61 Not for air.

Speaker 102 Not for air.

Speaker 27 Not for air.

Speaker 36 We haven't disclosed the contents yet. We have not said any of them.

Speaker 41 Not for air.

Speaker 133 I gotta, oh man, wouldn't it be fun to just do, hey, Dr. Bingbong here?

Speaker 107 So, yes, it was

Speaker 57 a complete tear of the tendon and uh pozingus has terrible disease that was pretty funny yeah really funny that was really that was really that's your best stuff yeah that's a prayer

Speaker 35 all right so what

Speaker 35 let's finish this series

Speaker 133 yeah i just wanted to um as we say goodbye to mr bingbong hank is it okay if mr bingbong just has one last conversation with you as as the celtic season is now over yep let a rep chair

Speaker 131 all right um

Speaker 147 Hey,

Speaker 61 remember what the AW said to you in the comments before you start.

Speaker 108 Hey, Hanky, Mr.

Speaker 133 Bingbong here. You know, it's kind of ironic this Celtic season.
It turns out the Celtics Achilles heel was,

Speaker 133 well, an Achilles heel. Bingbong.

Speaker 133 You know what the problem is with the Celtics after that? terrible, horrific injury is that no one took control of the team like Jordan Jordan is taking control of Coach Belichick's life.

Speaker 102 Bing Bang,

Speaker 102 yeah,

Speaker 133 Jalen Brown. You know what?

Speaker 108 Jalen Brown,

Speaker 133 he was supposed to pick up the slank after that horrific injury. You know, I mean, all he was really good for was jerking off Josh Hart.

Speaker 10 Bing mine.

Speaker 36 It's a good one.

Speaker 107 Hey, one for three.

Speaker 133 Word is, uh, hey, Hanky, word is your boy Robert Kraft saw that that uh jalen brown josh hot play and immediately saw him jerking him off and wanted to hire him

Speaker 133 he loves getting jerked off

Speaker 102 for games who doesn't

Speaker 146 hey

Speaker 133 listen hanky i gotta say uh i've noticed on the show there's a lot of

Speaker 133 tension a lot of friction between you and max a lot of back and forth a lot of friction just like jalen brown's hand on josh hot stick the friction oh Bing Bang.

Speaker 133 Hey, Hanky, I wanted to apologize.

Speaker 36 Game one of this series, Mr.

Speaker 133 Bing Bong blew out your eardrum just like you blew it.

Speaker 133 Hey,

Speaker 133 Hanky, Hanky, you know, this whole series.

Speaker 135 No, we got a couple more here.

Speaker 133 Hanky, you know, it's so interesting. You know, the Knicks and Seltz going toe-to-toe.

Speaker 146 Yeah.

Speaker 133 Speaking of toes, Tiffany, show us your Tootsies. Misha, we want to sing a Tootsie.
We don't want to pay for that. Give it to us for free.

Speaker 133 By the way, I just want to say I'm getting at a Big Bog character.

Speaker 133 I've been on X now for, you know, usually I do a TV show and they're like, hey, will you live X and all this stuff? And like, maybe I get like 10,000 likes and everything.

Speaker 133 When the Knicks won game two, and I just started screaming, Show us your Tootsies, Tiffany, Show us your Tootsies.

Speaker 133 Literally, it's by the way, I think there's like 2 million views on that. It's just me going, Show us your Tootsies, Bing Bong, show us your Tootsies, Tiffany.
Why won't you show us your toes?

Speaker 69 You fact the algorithm, yeah. Um,

Speaker 133 oh, yeah, okay, here we go. Here's a big closer: you are you ready, Hank? This is it.
You and the AWLs don't have to endure Mr. Bing Bong anymore.

Speaker 133 I'm still working this one out.

Speaker 135 All right, let me figure it out.

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 73 Hey, Hanky,

Speaker 36 I saw your boss.

Speaker 133 I saw your boy on Club Shay Shea on Shannon Sharp's show.

Speaker 133 It's so interesting. You know, your boss and you, between the Celtics and Shannon Sharp, you love chokers.

Speaker 61 That's actually a good one.

Speaker 102 Nikki, I love you.

Speaker 133 We are drafting

Speaker 133 Drake May, and I'm going to send you your hat, and I got a little picture and everything. I'm going to send you a little package for all you endured.

Speaker 133 I'm sorry, I allegedly hurt your eardrum, which just ended up being a head cold.

Speaker 102 Yeah, it's all right, Jerry.

Speaker 61 Congrats. Also, we were talking earlier in the show about librarians, the next chapter.

Speaker 61 And I was wondering if you could give us any context on librarians, the first chapter, because I got worried because I said it looks terrible, and they said rebecca remains in it but it was actually that who still doesn't follow us by the way

Speaker 61 but what are you expecting with the librarians what is it all about she's tweeting at us but she doesn't follow us pretty pretty rude

Speaker 135 um you know um

Speaker 133 my wife was in the original series the librarians and this is the reboot uh my wife knows everyone who's involved so we don't want to say anything rude but um i i we we haven't seen it but uh i'm sure it's good it's a great franchise i'm sure it's good stuff hank's going to be watching.

Speaker 12 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 102 Look at us, Hank.

Speaker 108 What a ride, huh, Hank?

Speaker 102 Yeah, what a ride. What a ride.

Speaker 61 Who would have thought two weeks ago in Arizona this is where things would have ended up?

Speaker 3 Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 Jerry, do you want to participate? This is the end of the show.

Speaker 15 You want to participate in numbers?

Speaker 102 Three.

Speaker 133 Yeah, let's go. Oh, who said three? Somebody already said it.

Speaker 10 Hey, Hank did.

Speaker 146 Shoot.

Speaker 108 Let me go.

Speaker 146 What was it, 20 last week?

Speaker 138 Let me go 20.

Speaker 133 Let me go 23.

Speaker 102 Okay.

Speaker 10 I will go 6.

Speaker 16 I'll go

Speaker 37 75.

Speaker 36 I'm going to go 90.

Speaker 63 I'll go 1.

Speaker 107 I'll go 99 pug.

Speaker 108 21.

Speaker 135 What's up, Jerry?

Speaker 76 What was your guest memes?

Speaker 98 Six.

Speaker 129 Makes me six.

Speaker 128 Any predictions for

Speaker 55 63. 63.

Speaker 133 Any predictions for Nick's Pacers, everybody?

Speaker 114 Seven.

Speaker 129 Nick's in six.

Speaker 36 I think it's going to be Pacers and seven. I'm just going to be.

Speaker 17 Knicks and four.

Speaker 61 This team is different, Jerry. This team is so good.
There's no way they lose even a game.

Speaker 34 I think he's mocking you, Jerry.

Speaker 133 I have no idea who's going to win. I really don't.

Speaker 102 All right.

Speaker 133 I'm in like a parking garage. Like, the security's looking at me.

Speaker 30 I got to get out of here.

Speaker 35 All right, Jerry. We love you.

Speaker 36 Love you guys.

Speaker 36 They

Speaker 36 make a big deal.

Speaker 36 They did

Speaker 36 make it.