NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, Chiefs Are Back, Bills/Eagles Stay Undefeated + We Talk Ryder Cup And Baseball Playoffs
NFL Week 4 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. (00:00:00-00:10:42)
We then recap every game from Sunday
Steelers 24, Vikings 21 (00:10:42-00:28:13)
Eagles 31, Bucs 25 (00:28:13-00:38:12)
Giants 21, Chargers 18 (00:38:12-00:45:37)
Falcons 34, Commanders 27 (00:45:37- 00:53:20)
Bills 31, Saints 19 (00:53:20-00:59:20)
Patriots 42, Panthers 13 (00:59:20-01:15:53)
Lions 34, Browns 10 (01:15:53-01:23:16)
Texans 26, Titans 0 (01:23:16-01:29:27)
Rams 27, Colts 20 (01:29:28-01:37:07)
Jags 26, Niners 21 (01:37:07-01:45:55)
Bears 25, Raiders 24 (01:45:55-01:58:20)
Chiefs 37, Ravens 20 (01:58:20-02:07:36)
Cowboys 40, Packers 40 (02:07:36-02:11:32)
We then talk some Ryder Cup (02:11:32-02:22:10), who's back of the week and playoff baseball (02:22:10-02:42:35).
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Today is Monday, September 29th,
week four.
Football.
Whoop.
Some spread.
Well,
Tege, you know, we must start.
Wake up, Maggie.
I think I got something to say to you.
It's late September, and I really should be back at school.
We start over in the pond in the Emerald Isle as quarterback Aer Lingus Rogers touched down in Ireland.
For the first time in his life, Carson Wentz felt at home as a ginger, hoping his lucky charms would continue after a week three victory.
Unfortunately for him, the Steelers had other thoughts as they kept ripping off sacks and T-Spee Watt took the balls away from the Vikings offense all afternoon.
There was no beef between star wide receivers, but Justin Hefferson and DK Metcalf made you say, Holy cow, each staking their claim as top players in the league.
Well done.
The game came down to the end, and Johnny Carson Wentz made us all laugh again as he completely botched the would-be game-tying drive.
Steelers 24.
Vikings 21.
Good day.
What?
What?
We go down to Atlanta, where Michael Phoenix had pitched to mania.
Dink and dark less, but see it grow.
From a Mass Togue Passes.
Pitts and Drake London Bridge spit-roasted Marshawn Lattamoron, who left gaping holes in the secondary all afternoon.
Meanwhile, Father Bajan Misty got his revenge on Kendrick Love Marcus Mariota, who had a couple really bad releases of his own on the exact same day.
Luke Emio McCaffrey was like little white blood cells showing up everywhere on the stat sheet.
And Debo Uncle Samuel is going to be looking at Jaden and Terry and saying, I want you to get your asses back on the field as soon as possible.
The Falcons, 34.
The Commanders, 27.
In Detroit, where I'm starting at the man in Jameira, I'm asking him for range, Jake Pete's.
And Joe Flacco could have been any clearer.
If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and then make a change.
At quarterback to Dylan Ershadur with a lost fumble and two interceptions.
Thank goodness this is Flack Colbert's last season.
On the other side, Jared Goff said,
let me show off my game, boy.
Throwing two master balls to Poke Monra, who caught them all.
And the Lions continue to hutch and son their opponents, showing the league who is is daddy.
You want to call me Daddy?
That's why they call me Daddy.
Lions 34, Browns 10.
What?
We go up to Buffalo where Carson Winster Rattler was throwing an ungodly amount of wounded ducks again.
And then a lovely tribute to Monica Lewinsky.
Alvin Kamara Sutra was getting his body bent in some absolutely wild positions by the Bills D.
James Tim Cook made sure the Saints saw a lot of screen time getting into an algorithm.
and Sean McKermit was feeling froggy singing, why are there so many Josh Allen rainbows that Keon Coleman catches and stride?
The Saints don't go marching but do cover.
31-17.
Down to Max and Zach in Tampa for a combo.
Boomer.
We had the steamy Tampa where Sidney Sweeney Brown gave Eagles fans euphoria as he took a block punt to the house and hit the Bucs in the big jugs you're to give the Eagles an early lead.
Kevin Petulowici was looking anything but rocky as he was finally getting in his bag with his playmoke in the first half.
And Dallas Broddart was the big man on campus as he went for two pretty touchdowns early, but then the Bucs came marching.
To the third where Easy Baker Oven Mayfield mixes some egg buka into a sweet, sweet 77 yard touchdown recipe.
Shortly after, Jalen Hurts' rental car denies the full coverage insurance on Saquon Breakley before setting the cruise control, knowing he'd double park it right into the end zone for six points.
In an effort to keep it close, as some may say,
keep a new hope, Baker, may the force be with you, used his Jedi mind tricks on the evil Empire Eagles for another touchdown.
But it wasn't enough.
Sith Lord Saquon and Job of the Hurts lived to see another win.
Eagles 31, Tampa 25.
Thanks, Zach.
Thanks, Max.
We head over to Foxborough where Hank was there.
In New England, Marky, Mark Wahlberg, and Jalen Brown joined the prestigious club of Keepers of the Light before the game started.
Tommy Treblemaker had the magic in him on a first-quarter touchdown before Ryan Edmund Fitzgerald told his teammates, fellas, it's been good to know you.
After doinking the extra point, Marcus Jim Jones was flying high.
No lie.
After balling on an 87-yard punt return touchdown, Drake Mayflower made a second quarter pilgrimage to the end zone.
And in the third quarter, Hunter Henry Lockwood was locked in and on time, catching a 31-yard touchdown before Quack Collins ducked into the end zone in the fourth quarter to seal the game.
Patriots win 42-13.
Out to the desert where the Vegas Lingeraiders put all their faith in Ashton Panty and Max Brosby.
But it was Gino Smith who tried to stir up the game and activate yeast mode, only to throw three interceptions, infuriating head cooch Pete Carroll.
JFK
Williams was wheeling in dealie today, spreading the ball around to the grassy coal.
Komet.
Jackie O.
Lami Lamiti Zakikius and took a huge shot to the dome of Dunze.
And now that Lyndon Ben Johnson has taken over the reins, anything is possible.
The Bears, 25.
The
24.
We go over to Kansas City, where LaMarvelous Miss Maisel Jackson was taking the top off early.
But this new season hasn't been very entertaining recently.
Xavier Cringeworthy was back, making the Ravens very uncomfortable and giving them secondary embarrassment.
DeAndre 3000 Hopkins took a couple hits from some big boys and Ravens fans thought their shit don't stink, but lean a little bit closer.
See, the throws are going to ju-choo-ooh.
The throws are going to joo-choo-oo.
Smith Schuster as the Chiefs belt the lead.
And tick-tock, tick-tock, Lamar goes missing, so we don't even see a Jackson Mahomes highlight.
Where is that guy, Tej?
The Ravens are one battle after another as Leo DiCaprio-Chenault was on an island out there making Lamar's 28-year-old hose look way too old and washed up.
The Chiefs make it look easy.
37 to 20.
Standing on the corner, Jameis Swinson and Hoboken.
Such a fine sight to see.
It's our bum, my lord, and his QB is sore from getting hit by the Giants' D.
Come on, Justin.
Dart is Bustin.
And Dable
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He wants to fuck
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The Giants get their first win.
21.
Chargers, 18.
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All right, week four in the books.
We've got a hell of a show for the people.
We've got a lot of sports to get to.
We're going to finish.
We're in the middle of the Packers
Cowboys game.
Cowboys, plucky.
Very.
We'll update that at the end.
But we've got a lot of great games.
We got the NFL starting to take shape.
We got two remaining undefeated teams.
But let's start with Hank's favorite thing in the world,
international football.
Which, by the way, before we even get so it's Steelers 24, Vikings 21, I think this happened Friday.
They announced that they're doing a deal with Brazil, so there's another three years of Brazil games.
And then I I saw an NFL reporter basically said they're getting to a point where they want to have 16 international games a year so that every team has to play abroad once a year.
Here's the problem with the international games.
I don't know if we've expressed this particularly in the past, but when you have the morning game,
it fucks up your entire day as a functional human being.
Correct.
You wake up early.
You can't do anything because you're watching the football game.
And then guess what?
When that football game's over, you have to watch another football game.
Yeah.
And then when those football games are over, guess what?
You got to watch another football game after that.
And then after those football games are over, you get about 30 minutes.
And then you got to watch another football game.
And before you know it, you haven't done anything resembling what a human being normally does in the course of a day.
And don't get me wrong, I love football.
I'm not going to complain about football because I would suck it.
Sounds like you're complaining about football.
No, fuck up.
No, there's nuance to what he's saying.
And I agree with what he's saying.
It's impossible.
You want less football?
It's impossible.
No, I want the exact same amount of football, but I want it at different times.
The morning football, like Sunday morning, there are things that people need to do.
Yeah.
Fuck the dog.
Roger Goodell hates church.
I like to go, you know, go to a diner with my kids, go to the park, then they just throw football at us.
Or even, like, think about all the people out there that are hungover.
Yeah.
Roger doesn't think about that.
Think about all the people that missed their flight.
Roger doesn't think about that.
They can still watch.
Oh, did they?
Yeah.
So
Hank didn't get to see all the games because he missed his flight this morning.
So he'll chime in wherever we see fit.
What happened, Hank?
I just had a really early flight.
And sorry, I was watching Jordan Left.
I had a really early flight.
We had a great time.
We had a great time in Penn State.
It's very hard to get out of the stadium.
We had to tailgate until like 1 a.m.
just to get home.
Yeah.
You had to.
Yep.
I woke up and my alarm was going off and I didn't wake up.
Oh.
okay.
But Max, was Max's flight before yours or after yours?
His was after mine.
He wasn't staying at the same place as me and he was flying out of a different airport.
He didn't really leave me hanging.
What would you say to the people who are like, hey, you're a child,
like, who misses a flight?
You're a grown man with a job, with responsibilities, and you missed your flight.
What would you say to those people?
I'd say that's a fair point.
It's true.
The haters are right.
Yeah.
Today the haters won.
Yeah.
And I paid for it.
I mean, I had to buy my own flight and I had to to take a three-hour Uber to Pittsburgh to get on it.
That's a rough deal, yeah.
A three-hour Uber?
That does suck.
I'm not going to give Hank a hard time at all because I know I got one of these in me at some point in my life.
It's just a matter of when.
So, Hank, how many games did you get to watch?
I watched the Patriots game.
I had a quad box on with the Patriots, Commanders, Bills.
That's pretty much it.
Okay, I've
got the Ryder Commander.
I have a question for you, Hank, about this whole flight situation.
Please.
I mean, this is crazy.
Well, no, I mean, we wanted to set the stage because we're going to.
I wanted to ask you on the show, did you consider the fact that
there was one ticket left out of state college and you got that ticket?
And then I had to drive an hour and a half to Harrisburg at 5.15 this morning.
That's a good point.
Yeah, I felt bad.
Trust me, I wanted to make the flight.
Yeah.
I wish I could have made it.
I got a quote for you later that will be appropriate.
All right.
That's on you, Max, for not calling Hank in the morning and be like, hey, are you going to make your flight?
Yeah.
And then
you're going to be fine.
I could have taken his shit.
I'm loving on Expedia right now.
Yeah.
Tell me when you're canceling.
This is a tough start Sunday for Hank, but he's here now.
We are, though.
Steelers, yeah, we are.
No,
no more we ares.
We were.
We were.
We were.
Steelers 24, Vikings 21.
Steelers' offense actually looked for real.
Yeah, Kenny Gainwell was doing a good job running the football.
Got some pop.
Aaron Rodgers, a little dinkin' and dunking, but he hit that one to DK, who's still very, very fast.
Did you see before he hit that one to DK?
He ripped the biggest smelling salt.
Ripped a salt.
Yep.
So awesome.
Yeah.
It was very cool.
Yeah, and
maybe this is what the Steelers' offense is going to be, is Aaron Rodgers getting the ball out insanely fast.
I think I saw the stat.
It was 2.17 seconds to throw.
He just was whipping it around.
Not like a ton of big-time downfield passes, but it didn't matter because the Steelers' offense looked better than it has in a while against a good Vikings' defense.
Yeah, Yeah, he didn't throw a single pass that went 20 yards downfield.
Yeah.
And I think the only one that went over 15 was to DK.
Yeah.
Caught that on the slant and took it to the house.
Yeah, it was, I never felt like the Steelers were out of control of this game until the very, very end when Mike Tomlin got into his bird brain shit.
And, man, I don't think he's ever going to go for it in fourth down again.
So
the moment you're talking about, because I wrote this down as well, Mike Tomlin, one of his favorite quotes to say is, we don't live in our fears.
Bullshit, dude.
You do live in your fears.
You had a fourth and maybe a half a yard
on the opponent's 39-yard line and you punted.
Yeah.
And you punted from there.
And it worked out because you ended up winning the game.
But holy shit, Mike Tomlin.
Dude, everyone in the world is going for this.
Just maybe go for it.
We'll end the game.
They were going in to score a touchdown.
It was what, like fourth and one, fourth and two?
Yeah.
From somewhere around the five or ten yard line.
And then Aaron Rodgers basically had to throw a tantrum on the field to get Mike Tomlin to go for it.
Yes.
And everybody in the field, we saw a mutiny.
There was a mutiny.
And Tomlin was like, okay, I guess if my entire offense is going to just stay on the field, there's not a lot that I can do about it.
So, okay, you guys have your fun.
This better fucking work.
And then it didn't work.
And then Tomlin's like,
I'm never going to do that for the rest of my life.
That was also the right call
because you pinned him back.
It was fine.
You wanted to make it into, what, a three-score game at the time?
Yep.
So that would have won the game.
But Tomlin will never do that again.
But yeah, I felt for the most part like the Steelers were the better team today.
Yeah, I agree.
And you could make the argument, like Mike Tomlin's, like, hey, we're going to
basically make Carson Wentz go the length of the field against a defensive line that's been dominating.
And now the Vikings lost two offensive linemen during the game, Ryan Kelly and Brian O'Neal.
And you could see it.
Like the Steelers, it felt like every guy was taking a turn getting pressure.
TJ Watt was incredible in this game.
So, yes, the odds are Carson Wentz is not going to be able to drive the field.
And not only did he not drive the field, he had a hilarious final drive.
He tried to throw like three picks.
He had an intentional grounding.
He had a delay of game where it was just, he was just standing there.
The refs didn't throw the flag for like five seconds because they're like, wait, is this a joke or shit?
They're like, we must be wrong.
Yeah, there's something's got to be wrong.
It's been zero for five seconds here.
So it all worked out.
But still, Mike Tomlin.
Yeah, maybe Aaron Rodgers can get into his head.
And the Steelers actually debuted their own tush push today where Aaron Rodgers just stands behind and doesn't do anything, which was hilarious.
Yeah, that was great.
He stood perfectly still and just watched.
He's like, I'm not getting in there.
Fuck that.
That shit's scary.
Yeah.
So
do we feel like Carson Wentz may be turning back into Carson Wentz?
He has become, yeah, he's always been Carson Wentz.
He's always been Carson Wentz.
He just had a nice, he had a mask on last week.
He had a Vikings defense that scored, I think, twice last week and was turning the ball over at will against the Bengals.
He also might be hurt because he had one pass where it looked like he banged his hand pretty pretty bad.
And then for the next five minutes, he was just shaking his hand the whole time.
If that was J.J.
McCarthy, the Vikings would have been like, get out of the game.
Get out of the game, dear.
We need to protect you.
And then we're going to sit you down for four weeks and not tell anyone.
Yeah, but since it's Carson Wentz, they're like, no, please stay out there.
Otherwise, you're going to make us hit the Desmond Ritter button.
Yeah, no one wants to see that button.
Also, we should give, maybe we start giving out game balls because that's what happens, you know, after a game and the coaches give out game balls.
Game ball to Peyton Wilson because that chase down
of Jordan Addison with like three and a half minutes left yeah was insane and not and like you're like all right well they ended up scoring a touchdown anyway so for people who weren't able to watch the game Jordan Addison it's a 10-point game Jordan Addison catches a ball has like a it's like an 80-yard gain he's basically home free Peyton Wilson chases him down tackles him on the five
It ends up being 61 seconds more that the Vikings need to score.
The Vikings get the ball back with Carson Wentz with a minute left.
They might have gotten the ball back ahead of the two-minute warning and had two full minutes to go get into field goal range.
So, Peyton Wilson, you get the PMT game ball.
We start giving out game balls.
Yeah, Addison.
That was an incredible play.
It was a great play.
Addison, you can't get caught from behind like that, buddy.
Right.
And Peyton Wilson just didn't give up.
Didn't give up on it.
Like,
had to run a lot further with his angle.
And still, yeah, like 61.
So if the Vikings score there, there's three minutes and they have a timeout.
They probably get the ball back with like 2.15, get the two-minute warning.
Instead, they got the ball back with one minute, and you saw what happened with Carson Wentz.
You know what really pissed me off about Carson Wentz in the Vikings uniform?
This is probably just a Vikings uniform thing.
But when you look at his jersey, the two ones for number 11 are different fonts.
Yeah.
It's like
his jersey is a ransom note being like, I kidnapped your starting quarterback.
It's just me, Carson Wentz.
It's me, yeah.
It's very, very strange to look at.
Yeah, it is strange.
Too much white slander right now.
Well, I mean, come on, Max.
350, two toads max you called it you were he did have no time to 350 two to have no time i'm sick of max pretending that he doesn't hate him i don't you you called him a mental pussy well that was then this is now this is now and also he's older he's more mature he's not your problem so you exactly enjoy him from afar exactly right if you're a vikings fan you're like no i i don't like him he wasn't he wasn't terrible he was just the last drive was just very carson went we're just like hey game on the line yeah
Wentz.
But that's fun.
That's fun.
That's fun to watch that Carson Wentz.
I do like the Viking strategy, though.
So they're doing back-to-back games over in Europe.
Yeah.
But they're doing it back-to-back, and both of the games, I think, are road games.
Yeah.
So they don't lose a home game.
I think one of them's got to be a home game, right?
Really?
Well, I would be surprised if not.
But yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
I could be wrong.
I think right now.
I would assume the second one's a home game.
Yeah, the second one's a home game.
The Browns.
They're playing the Browns.
Well, it says verse instead of at.
So.
All right, you talk for a second.
Hey, give us a quick story.
I think if it's verse, that means it's a home game.
But on Google, it's Vikings are at the road team.
Browns are at the home team.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm looking on ESPN.
Hold on.
Tell us a story.
I'm going to count up all their other home games.
Penn State was great.
The Knit, I mean,
biggest game I've ever been to.
100,000 people.
Place was rocking.
We were there
an hour before, and the stadium was 95% full.
Did you rock the white-out shirt?
I did rock a white white shirt.
I think they're both technically home games.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Wait, so the Vikings are losing.
I'm counting right now.
They have one.
They only get six home games this year?
Seven.
Because you know, sometimes you get nine.
Yeah.
So
one, two,
three,
four, five,
six,
seven, eight.
So
one of them's an away game.
Or a home game.
Sorry, one of them's a home game.
That makes sense.
Exactly.
They have eight home games.
So that makes sense.
Yeah.
Or
maybe it is both away games but they have eight home games to begin with this year yeah yeah that might be it that might be it happy we got to the bottom of that uh greg olson update he had a guinness yep and he talked shit about guinness he was like i didn't i didn't much care for it god damn it dude fuck off this guy come on greg he's he's too he's got two he's got it all be a man and just be like i i drank a beer and i liked it Do you think J.J.
McCarthy's ankle got better or worse because of this game?
Worse because he had to fly all the way across the pond.
But I was going to say maybe a a little bit better because Carson Wentz didn't look.
I think every loss that they have,
his ankle mysteriously feels a little bit better.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
I would say, like, just actually, like, I still don't understand why he had to travel.
Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Like, he just had a baby.
Just let him stay at home.
You're not going to play him.
Yeah.
I guess maybe the meetings and stuff.
Probably good.
Being around Kevin O'Connell.
I guess so.
But yeah, you're right.
I can't imagine that his wife was too thrilled with that.
Yeah.
The other note I had was
something about Kansas State.
They just get in fights overseas in Ireland because Skylar Thompson got jumped and robbed.
I saw that.
That was the graphic.
Very funny graphic.
Not funny that he got jumped and robbed, but funny to just see Skylar Thompson jumped and robbed.
Did they catch the guys?
I don't know.
Probably not.
It's a possibility that the guy, that he didn't understand what they were saying to him because of the Irish accent.
Maybe.
And then he was like, dude, I can't understand you.
Then they took that as an insult.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is the bleacher work graphic.
Jumped and robbed.
Yeah, I hope he's okay.
I hope he wasn't.
I hope he wasn't banged up too much.
I guess it's better than just robbed.
And it's better than just jumped.
But if you get robbed.
Yeah, I guess you can get robbed and not jumped.
Yeah, for sure.
You can get robbed and not jumped.
And that would suck because then you probably don't even see the person.
And then just getting jumped would also suck because that means they probably beat the fuck out of you.
If I got jumped and not robbed, though, I would probably also say that I got robbed.
I would rather get...
I'd rather just get jumped and robbed together.
Like, I wouldn't want one separate.
Yeah, agreed.
Yeah, if you're going to do it, just do them both.
Do the combo.
Yeah.
What do you think about Aaron Rodgers?
He was talking shit about the team travel.
Yeah.
He was like, I wish we got there earlier in the week.
He left and explore some of the history around Ireland.
Yeah, they landed at like 8 a.m.
on Friday.
That does suck.
That does suck.
And I would trust any advice Rodgers had about how to take a trip.
Yes, big time.
Big time.
Should I read the quote that
is going to hurt us in our argument with Hank?
Or should I not read it?
I'd prefer you don't.
Okay.
then I won't.
Patrick Queen said on the environment in Ireland, it was incredible.
I might get a little heat, but it's kind of different than being at home.
They were into it the whole game.
Every single third down, we could hear them.
Okay, so that's Ireland.
I saw that and I was like, fuck.
That's Ireland, which is superior in every way to London.
That's true.
So all games in Ireland, we can't get it.
I'm okay.
We meet in the middle.
I'm better with Ireland.
You're in Ireland, you're down.
I'm better with Ireland.
I would be okay with that.
All right.
That's a comfort.
I actually don't.
I don't want to.
That's a good comfort.
No, I'm not okay with that.
I don't know why I said that.
I'm better.
I'm better.
It would be better, but I don't want it.
It's closer.
It is closer.
Be awesome.
People are nicer.
Be awesome.
Except for the jumped and robbed.
As long as you didn't go to Kansas State.
Yep.
You should be okay not getting into any fights.
Are the Steelers?
The Steelers might be.
They might be better than
I think the Steelers are an
extremely competent football team.
Yeah, because I was expecting him to lose this game just because I thought the Vikings' defense would cause him fits.
But yeah, they might be okay.
I might be.
They have a couple tough games coming up.
The defense looked a little bit better, which is exactly what you're hoping for for your Steelers fan.
Yeah.
Jalen Ramsey did.
Now he hurt his hamstring, right?
Yeah.
And then came back in.
He did hurt his hamstring when he was running.
Well, that's karma.
Yeah.
Because then he did get hurt.
Yeah.
He faked it.
He did the Hank.
He did the Henry Lockwood.
And then
he actually got hurt.
Yeah.
So that's not good.
Should we start finding players for faking injuries?
Absolutely.
100%.
All right.
Next up, back to stateside, where football is meant to be played.
By the way, I want to see the Steelers one more time.
I guess their next game is against the Browns, so that's not really a good offensive test.
The Vikings' offensive line is kind of a disaster right now.
And I think that showed true.
Not the Steelers' defense doesn't deserve credit, but I'm just saying Vikings' offensive line also is kind kind of a joke.
And so they have to play the Browns in Tottenham.
No, right?
Yeah, that's...
No, the Steelers play the Browns.
Steelers play the Browns.
Yeah, back.
The Steelers are coming home.
Who do the Vikings have?
Vikings are staying abroad.
Yeah, in Tottenham.
They're playing somebody.
The Vikings are playing.
The Browns.
That's confusing.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Steelers are on a bye.
Steelers are on a bye.
Vikings are playing the Browns in Tottenham.
And then the Steelers are playing the Browns
in America.
Is Deshaun Deshaun Watson allowed to travel to England?
Does he even show up?
Does he think he shows up to the
I assume he would be because Prince Andrew lives there?
Yeah, that's true.
So probably okay.
Whatever.
Yeah, he's got to stay with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Under his supervision.
He's got a townhouse.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up, Eagles, 31 bucks, 25.
Eagles do it again.
They are undefeated, one of the last two teams undefeated.
And
it was basically a reverse of last week for the Eagles.
They were awesome in the first half, including a ⁇ they just block every kick now.
They blocked a punt, returned it for a touchdown early in the game.
And then the second half, they were terrible and basically let the Bucs come all the way back into Baker time, but then made
enough stops to stop Baker time.
Yeah, so Jalen Hurts was awesome in the first half.
Yes.
He was 15 to 16, 130 yards, two touchdowns.
In the second half, Jalen Hurts was 0 for 8, 0 passing yards, 0 touchdowns.
I read that it's the last, it's the only game in the last two years where a team did not complete a second half pass.
Ooh, wow.
Which is pretty crazy.
They still won the game, so credit to them.
They were able to get it done.
But yeah, it was like, it was the exact opposite.
There's still, even when, if Jalen Hurts doesn't throw the football, I think the Eagles could still go like, I don't know, eight and nine.
Yeah.
With zero passing yards for Jalen Hurts.
I mean, Saquon had 2.3 yards of carry.
So, how does that even make sense?
I'm also complimenting Jalen Hurts' ability to run the ball.
Yeah.
Max, I'm actually meaning this as like an Eagles are fucking dominant stat.
That they don't.
Yeah, I mean, he went 0 for 8, 0 yards.
He still won the game in the second half.
It was great in the first half.
Yeah, I understand that you've got to be defensive because you're hearing people be like, oh, you're always running back.
You're defensive.
You're always defensive.
You always are defensive.
You are.
But I do mean that as a compliment.
I think that the Eagles could be around 500 if they didn't have to pass the ball.
Max, I got two stats for you.
I got a bad stat and a good stat.
Okay?
A bad stat is
that was actually only the second time since 1991
that a quarterback has had zero passing yards with at least eight pass attempts in a second half and won the game.
Jake Dallone was the other one in 2008.
He went 0 for 9 for zero yards.
So that's how rare it happens.
Here's the good stat, Max.
Jalen Hurts has now won 18 straight games that he started and finished, and the only other guys who've done that are Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and now Jalen Hurts.
It's
pretty good staff.
That's pretty good company.
It'll be a full calendar year by the time he plays next week.
That's crazy.
Yep.
And then we also had, of course,
A.J.
Brown after the game with a weird tweet.
So
where do you are they okay?
A.J.
Brown can do whatever.
He's done it so many times.
He said, said, if you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw.
Don't make a scene.
Shrug your shoulders and be on your way.
Huh.
It is a Bible verse.
Yeah.
I looked up the Bible verse.
Okay.
It's in regards to Jesus instructing his disciples that if nobody listens to your message, shrug your shoulders, move on.
And also, that city is condemned to hell.
That part's not good.
So
who is A.J.
Brown condemning to hell in this message?
Sometimes he just likes to say shit.
Yeah, sometimes he just likes to tweet shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just throw it out there.
He just wants to get some interactions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes people just do that.
He just won a Super Bowl.
They're 4-0.
He makes a lot of money.
Do you, okay, so I agree with all of that, but do you not, like, would you prefer A.J.
Brown to just not do this?
I don't care.
He did it all last year.
He won a Super Bowl.
That's true.
That's a good point.
That's a really good point.
I got a question for you, Max.
Is Nick Siriani,
is he trolling the rest of the league with the new tush-pushes now?
That was a good one.
It's pretty funny.
He's like doing different varieties of it.
He's like, hey, we can beat you a couple different ways in the tush push.
Are you talking about the fake one?
Yeah, the fake one.
I got a take.
I think that should be illegal for the Eagles to do.
I do.
Leave the real tush push.
They should not be allowed to do fakes.
It's like an on-side kick.
You have to declare tush-push?
No,
it's kind of like an ethics code.
Like, you are better than everyone at the tush push.
Do the tush push.
Don't do the fake tush push.
That's almost cheating in my eyes.
Yeah.
Everyone else can do a fake tush push because they can't do the tush push like you guys can.
But the fake, like, that would be funny if the league met in the spring and they're like, tush push stays, fake tush push for the Eagles gone.
Can't do it.
If you're going to line up that way, you got to just do it.
Yeah, too good.
Do you agree?
Sure.
I mean, no, I don't agree.
Okay, but it is kind of cheating.
Yeah.
There was a a point today where I thought that
the league was going to try and ban blocked kicks.
If we just block, if we thought we were.
Yeah.
I thought we were just going to block every kick for the rest of time, and then people were going to be like, well, we got to fix this because the Eagles can't just keep blocking kicks.
So the next time they punted when you did it.
Yeah, well, but it was three in a row.
Yeah, so
actually, that was good for the Eagles to not block the next one.
Right.
Because then they're going to get it.
We threw him off the scent a little bit.
We have to use it sparingly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Zach,
how are you feeling about the Bucs?
Because it feels like the Bucs got back in this game.
There was some awesome Baker hit Abuka.
Bucky Irving had a big touchdown.
It feels like the Bucs
only do their...
They're basically the biggest procrastinators in the NFL.
They just wait
until five minutes left in the fourth quarter, and they're like, fuck, we got to actually try to win this game.
And they kind of ran out of plays today because they flew too close to the sun, and it was too many mistakes throughout the game.
Listen, I think it's hard when the tone gets set early on a block kick taken back to the house.
That just kind of throws everything out of whack.
I think we did good stopping the run today,
but we showed today that you can't just push everything off until the last three minutes of a game.
You can get away with that with a lot of teams.
The Eagles aren't going to be one of those teams.
I still feel very good about where we're at as a team.
It just wasn't our day.
It is kind of nice that, like, especially when the Bucs play early in the early slate, it's almost like the clock hits witching hour when Baker does a scramble and then talks shit in someone's face when the Bucs are down a score and they need a first down really badly.
It's almost a sign, like, oh, shit, we're ready to pop off.
Yeah, and they are, they're trying to run the ball, but they're, they're clearly limited as to what they can do with that offensive line right now.
Yeah.
So they're still, like, in theory, we're going to try to give Bucky Irving some carries and try to at least like establish a threat of a running game, but I don't think that it's taken too seriously.
Yeah.
Because they're so banged up on that offensive line right now.
And it's basically all roads in every game the Bucs play lead to Baker having the ball with like three minutes left needing to score.
Game plan is just wait for Baker to anamorph into a dog.
Yeah.
And it was basically just the Bucs made too many mistakes.
It was a block punt, but it was also like their defense did a great job in the second half.
The only time the Eagles scored, which ended up being the game-winning touchdown, was because Bucky Irving fumbled and gave gave them a short field and they were able to score off that.
Yep.
And also Chase McLaughlin hit, I think it was the longest outdoor field goal in the history of the NFL.
Yep.
65 yards.
Yep.
Zach and I were the only two people in the cave who said he was going to make it.
It was a crazy kick.
It was
super low.
You probably could have brought actually Max.
I'm beginning to buy into the theory that maybe the Eagles didn't block that one on purpose.
So the league would get off their ass about it.
That was a really low pick.
Yeah, well, they thought that maybe they didn't have to block it.
He was just going to miss it.
Yeah, nobody really rushed up the middle on that one.
Yep.
So overall, you're okay 3-1.
You got to get healthy.
I feel okay.
Get the losses out of the way early.
I didn't feel the best about Baker making that throw with the interception there.
I think he got to throw that one away.
That hurt.
But other than that, I feel good.
Yeah,
there was a lot of Eagles fans down
in Tampa when Cooper DeGene made a big play and everyone, and you could hear the coupe.
How'd you feel about that sun?
There was a crazy shade situation that the Eagles were pulling off.
What's your guys' thoughts on the Eagles having guys hold the shades the entire game instead of just getting like some poles to hold them?
Exactly.
You got to get some poles.
I would have just built like a grease them up.
I would have built like a
actual RV on the sideline with air conditioning.
Yeah.
Or those Misters.
Yeah, or the Misters.
The Misters are nice.
You think Big Dom doesn't have a pole guy that he can hit up in?
Tampa's probably actually the number one pole city in the world.
Yeah.
No, we're.
Honz Venus.
Yeah.
The Eagle sideline, blue collar.
They don't need fancy machines to get that.
Yeah, but think about how awesome that air conditioning would hit.
There's nothing better than just being so sweaty and getting that fucking wave of air conditioning right in your face.
Oh, incredible.
Who was it that was holding?
Was it just like an assistant quality control guy?
I believe.
I'm not familiar with the fine gentleman that were holding it.
You are familiar with his game.
But they were, I mean, they were the MVPs today, you could argue.
I think they could have been NFL staff because they weren't wearing Eagles gear.
They were just wearing NFL-branded gear.
Maybe they were, yeah.
That's a good call.
Either way, congrats on 4-0, Max.
Are you thinking you got to get a loss at some point to get the hunger back?
No.
I want to win every single game forever.
Who do you have next?
That would be the Broncos.
Ooh.
The Eagles schedule is so hard.
I'm looking right now.
You have the Broncos, Giants, and Vikings in the next
four weeks.
That's all you're playing.
Then after that, you get the Giants again.
And then the Packers and the Lions.
Packers, Lions.
Okay.
And then the Cowboys are not.
And then the Bears.
Bears are back.
Maybe.
Who knows?
We'll see what we are then.
I wouldn't say it's the hardest schedule.
It's not easy.
It's not easy.
But hey, they pay everyone there.
You know?
Yeah, just keep winning.
Just got to keep winning.
Okay.
Speaking of Giants, 21, Chargers, 18, Jackson Dart.
It happened.
He arrived.
75-yard touchdown drive to start the game.
This was so mean to Giants fans that they got a quarterback that it was kind of actually reminiscent of Danny.
Remember Danny Dimes?
Mm-hmm.
First game?
I think it was in Tampa.
And finally, the vibes are back for the Giants, and then Malik Neighbors tears the ACL.
That was a big bummer.
Such a bummer.
Big bummer.
It was obviously very painful.
It led a lot of people to start talking about the field at MetLife, which I did not realize that that field had claimed so many knees and
ankles and killies over the last few years.
Oh, yeah.
Since like 2020, it's been on quite a run.
Yes.
It's been pretty bad there.
But they're not going to change it to grass.
No.
They're just not.
They like hosting concerts there.
Yep.
That's what needs to happen: musicians need to start being like, we're not going to play shows at artificial grass.
Yeah.
It has to be real good.
It's bad for our audience's knees.
Yeah.
And then the owners will start doing it finally.
But yeah, besides that, which is obviously a big bummer for the Giants, they got to be super excited about having Dart.
Yeah.
Because he's exciting.
I got to say that Jackson Dart, I know we had this conversation last week, but the turtleneck and the bandana, it works because he's a winner.
I think he might be a wild boy.
He's a winner.
And he's wearing the cool guy
glasses after, you know, not the reading glasses, but just whatever glasses, like Zach's glasses, but he doesn't need them.
Yeah.
The cool guy glasses.
I also, I just really love the duo of Dart and Scatterboo together.
They make a very funny combination.
It's like Timon and Pumba.
Exciting whites.
Yeah, Exciting Whites.
It's like, yeah, like Hank and Max together.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is a fun game for the Giants.
They played well.
Jackson Dart, like, he didn't light up the world, but he did what Russell Wilson couldn't do.
He kept them out of bad situations.
He moved the button, like, you know, used his feet.
It felt like he made the throws he needed to make.
The offense finally had a little pop.
And then on the other side, the Giants' defense, that's where all these
high-draft picks and big-time impact players that they've been taking, it started to really show up today because they were wrecking Justin Herbert.
And I know Joe Alt went out, but they had 47.7%
pressure on Justin Herbert drop backs to the point where Jim Harbar said afterward he's taking too many hits.
So that was, like, this was the Giant.
This, Abdul Carter said it after the game.
He said, the future is now, talking about him and Jackson Dart.
And if you're a Giants fan, you got to be pretty pumped about this win because you're like, holy shit, this defense might be legit and we might have a quarterback.
Yeah, Abdul Carter had, this was his breakout game, eight pressures.
I think he had a sack, too.
It might have been his first full sack in the NFL.
They got some fucking dudes on the line.
Brian Burns, six pressures.
Thibodeau had six pressures.
So, yeah, they were lighting them up.
And
that actually drops Harbaugh's record against rookie quarterbacks to 8-3.
And this is his first loss against a rookie quarterback with the Chargers.
But yeah, the defense was like the real story.
Yeah.
And then, obviously, it's nice to see some excitement.
The only thing I'm worried about with Dart's swagginess, the chain might get stolen from him at some point.
Snatched?
It might get stolen.
It goes to Ireland.
There might be.
We went to Ole Miss.
Yeah, I think if it's just like against somebody that's got sticky mitts,
some team is going to put a bouncy on that chain at some point.
Do they play the Broncos?
Let's see.
I think they do.
They definitely would do that.
I think they play against
AFC West.
Okay.
I don't know.
So the Chargers, this is just the NFL.
It's week to week.
You had an 0-3 team versus a 3-0 team.
Chargers couldn't have looked better.
Giants couldn't have looked worse.
Go to New York, win.
I would say the Chargers,
it doesn't feel like Justin Herbert's been so good, and it's been a revelation the first three games of the season to be like Justin Herbert.
They're letting him actually, you know, put the offense in his hands.
Maybe this pendulum needs to swing a little bit back because they threw the ball 41 times and had 13 rushes overall.
Amari and Hampton had 12 rushes for 128 yards.
Just 12 rushes, though.
And I think, like, they probably probably have to do a little bit more of a balance, but they're also dealing with a lot of offensive line injuries.
So
I just give more, this takeaway from this game was more like the Giants, this was a Giants win, and it was a Giants, like, they've not arrived, but for the first time in a long time, Giants fans have something to be excited about.
Yeah, and Brian Dable is probably more excited than almost every single Giants fan.
Oh, the way he hugged Jackson Dart after the game, that was a hug of someone who
saved your life, Who found your dog and brought it back to you?
It was a longing embrace.
He's like, we're going to be together forever.
He's like, a little bit.
Right.
Tell me.
Yeah, we are.
He's love bombing him.
Like, you're going to make sure that I'm here, right?
Nabel is going to send him like 20 texts tonight.
Yeah.
Be like, hey, I got you that reservation.
No worries.
He is so excited to have a guy that could potentially save his job.
Memes put me onto this.
There was a report after the game.
From, I believe this was from an AP reporter or a newspaper guy.
He said Jackson Dart was among the few players remaining in the Giants locker room.
You could tell he was sore.
The way he moved from the far corner showers to his stall, how he now stood collecting himself, those six sacks, ten hits by the Chargers' defense radiated over him.
That's when Brian Dable joined his quarterback.
The two had already embraced each other on the field, but this was different.
It was quieter now, less around.
Dable reached his hand out, grabbed the back of Dart's neck, and brought him close.
They held each other.
Dable then walked away with a smile.
This felt like the start of something.
So that was just written by license plate guy, right?
Probably.
Like, he wasn't even in the locker room.
He just wrote what it would look like if I were in the locker room.
Yeah, could you put like maybe a little bit of romantic music underneath that?
I think that would go really good, yeah.
That's perfect.
It's a true love story.
And
also, shout out Jackson Dart.
Kind of nice of him.
He kept on giving a shout-out to Russell Wilson.
He's like,
he was awesome.
He was in my corner.
Helped me.
This has been a crazy week.
Good job, Russie.
Yeah, Russie's.
Not a great week for him, but good job being a good teammate.
Russi got in.
Yeah.
Completed a nice pass.
He did.
Managed that third and long really well.
He was part of a win.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Falcons 34.
Commanders 27.
Yep.
I need Jaden back so bad.
Yeah, what's up with Jaden and Terry McLaurin?
Terry, I'm still more concerned about Terry.
I think Jaden would have played today if it was a playoff game, but they don't want to risk it this early in the season.
But at some point, you've got to take the bubble wrap off.
You've got to play.
You've got to play football.
Hey, football players, that's what they do.
They play football.
Well, also, you can't.
This was...
So this game,
let me first say the Falcons.
If you're a Falcons fan, this was the first time where
it all happened.
And when I say it all happened, I'm talking about Bijan, 181 yards, total yards from scrimmage and a touchdown.
Drake London, eight catches for 110 yards and a touchdown.
Kyle Pitts, five catches for 70 yards and a touchdown.
Michael Pennix, 313 yards.
It all happened.
That was exactly, if you're a Falcons fan, you're like, we have all these guys.
Let's use these guys.
We want to see these guys be these guys.
It finally all happened.
Yeah, I mean, the story is not.
Like, Marcus Mariota was not the problem for the commanders today.
The problem was the defense just got gashed.
And the Falcons skill players,
bigger, stronger, faster across the board.
Bijan's so good.
Bijan's very good.
Frankie Louva was the only one that was playing with a good amount of speed and effort.
Well, I don't want to say effort, but he was the only one that was that looked like he was fast enough to hang with those guys at that position.
I'm not sure if Marshawn Lattimore is good.
He might not be good.
He might be a little washed.
It might also be the scheme.
And we're playing a lot of zone.
We got a lot of old guys.
We're the oldest team in the league by a considerable margin.
We got a lot of old dudes out there that can't keep up with tight ends, have trouble in the the zone coverage, and some of that makes Lattimore look bad when he's late getting to his guy.
But he might not be good.
And that's a reality that I'm having to deal with at this point.
So please respect my privacy at this time as I work my way through this.
What did you trade for him?
It probably wasn't even really all that much.
No, I actually don't remember.
It wasn't.
I don't think.
It was like a second rounder?
It was like a second rounder, yeah.
But again, that's what you need to get younger, is you need draft picks to get younger.
Yeah.
And Ron Rivera,
I don't think there's a single guy on this defense.
No, that's not true.
Payne.
Payne a tackle.
He's still a pretty good player.
But yeah, we just whiffed on so many draft picks throughout the years that our defense is super old.
This is where Emmanuel Forbes would have been.
Oh, Emmanuel Forbes.
If he was good.
Yeah, it would have been great.
Right, right, right.
When you miss on a cornerback, then you have to go get another one.
Yeah, but the defense was not good today.
The Falcons' offense was great.
Everything was easy for them, and they were hitting their guys in space.
Zach Robinson coming down to the sideline.
It worked.
Helped everything.
And Michael Pennix, like, this was the bounce back game you needed to see after losing to the Panthers the way they lost to the Panthers.
He was great.
He was spraying it everywhere.
And, like I said, he hit
the guys that you've drafted in the big names all had an impact.
And that's got to make you excited if you're a Falcons fan.
Yeah, I shouldn't have talked shit about Michael Pennix not winning a single game where the other team scores more than seven points last week.
Yeah.
That one really came back to bite me in the dick.
I do think that Jaden being in this game obviously would have changed.
Not that Marcus Mariota was bad, but one for eight on third down, that feels like something that wouldn't happen to Jaden Dayton.
No, no, it wouldn't.
I mean, if you look at their percentage from last year and use that as any indication, if it even g approaches that, then it's a different ballgame.
Right.
But yeah,
it felt like
one team was really, really fast and competent on offense and one team's defense just could not get off the field ever.
So it was a bummer.
It was a bummer of a game for me.
Where are you at overall?
Overall, I still...
Get Jaden back?
Yeah, get Jaden back.
Let's talk about it when Jaden gets back.
I think Marcus Mariotta, he's a good backup.
I'll stand by that.
He went 50-50, 1-1, lost one.
But yeah, in order to get really excited about this team, I'm going to need Jaden back out there.
What about the next week?
Must-win, can't lose?
This is must-win next week.
Must-win.
Must-win.
Must-win at the Chargers.
Okay.
And I wish that the Chargers had won against the Giants because
now they're going to be hungry.
Again, it's like the Falcons lost to the Panthers last week.
That put me in a bad situation because now this is a hungry Falcons team.
Right.
Harbaugh is going to have a tough week of practice.
Yeah.
Physical week of practice.
Yeah.
But yeah, Jaden should be back next week.
Besides that, I don't know that I can take too much out of this besides the fact that I'm not, I don't think I'm going to reach a point this year where I'll be able to trust this defense.
Yeah, it did feel like there was that one drive late in the game where the Falcons were just getting everything they wanted on the ground.
Yeah, it was easy.
And it was like they,
the Commanders knew they were running, the Falcons knew they were running, everyone in the stadium knew they were running, and they still ran the ball.
Yeah, it was very easy for the Falcons at times.
But yeah,
credit to Kyle Pitts.
Played a great game.
I never stopped believing Kyle Pitts.
Kyle Pitts.
Remember, his touchdowns go up by one every single year.
Yep.
I don't know what he's at this year so far.
It might have been his first.
Yeah, I think that the Commanders are exactly what I've thought that they were, which is like a good, not great team.
Yeah.
And when you have a good, not great team and you don't have your starting quarterback, then that's going to be a problem against pretty much anybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You need Jaden Daniels back.
You need Dan Quinn to get lit up on the sidelines to wake him up.
Yeah.
That too.
Big time.
He had some fire today.
He did.
He had some moments.
You turned your hat backwards.
I did.
Because he was so pumped up.
He was in his dandalytics, yeah.
Yeah.
He was going kind of crazy, which was fun fun to see uh hank did you see any of this game yeah and
where and what where were you when you were watching this i was watching this game in the uber and in the airport on the quad box uh on my phone youtube tv shout out to youtube tv great for being on the road
commanders look bad
bad but like you said there's not you can't put a whole lot into it without starting QB.
Yeah, you can't.
You need Jane Daniels back.
And it was more, like I said, the the Falcons.
If you're a Falcons fan,
you put this tape on and you're like, this could be the future.
Holy shit.
All these guys are for real.
Yeah.
Which is an awesome feeling.
It's crazy because our special teams, we're like super fast, super physical, and then none of that translates over to defense.
I think we need to have our special teams start to play defense for us.
I think that's the answer to it.
Also, shout out Luke McCaffrey.
Love him.
That's the one thing.
Marcus Mariota has unlocked Luke.
I'm going to need Jaden to watch that film and be like, Luke's a weapon.
There was a
funny moment in the cave where PFD was like, all the haters of Luke McCaffrey.
And I was like, no, I've kept it.
I don't know if anyone's.
And then he pointed out that we didn't compliment his Luke McCaffrey jersey enough.
I think you said, you guys woke up Luke.
Yeah, no, you did.
No one was talking about Luke.
He heard everything you said.
And yeah, Big Cat was like, who doubted Luke?
And I said, well, when I got my Luke McCaffrey Salute to Service jersey last year, you guys weren't really that impressed with it.
I don't think we said anything.
Which is
hate.
That's hate.
Jerry, Jersey Jerry was the only one that respected the salute of service.
Yep.
So, also, Debo, Debo, Debo looked awesome.
Great game again.
So, I think once Jaden gets back, he's got enough weapons.
The offensive line looked okay today.
I think it's going to be a much, much different team when Jaden gets back out there.
But the defense is never really, I don't think we're going to reach a point this year where I'm going to ever fully trust them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
Okay.
Next up, Bills Saints.
Bills 31, Saints, 19.
This game was actually kind of close for a minute.
It was a two-point game.
And then Josh Allen was like, oh, yeah, I'm Josh Allen.
I'm playing the Saints.
And he had that, I think it was like a 27-yard scramble.
And then the very next play threw a touchdown to Dalton Kincaid to make it a nine-point game.
And
yeah, I mean, it was, listen, it was closer than I think we all thought.
They pay them too.
It really came down.
The Saints had two moments.
The Chris Olave interception,
which Spencer Rattler can do it himself.
He can throw an interception himself.
Why'd you have someone else do it?
Yeah, good point.
Spencer's also 0-10 now as a starting quarterback.
0-10.
But I don't think he's not 0-10 bad
as a quarterback.
No, I think the Saints might be 0-10 bad.
Because 0-10 bad is really bad.
Hank's giving a look like, ah, he might be.
0-10.
I don't think you realize how bad 0-10.
Like, Deshaun Kaiser,
he's 0-15 bad.
0-10 bad, Spencer Rattler does not fall into that same category.
Well, he's 0-10.
He is, but he's not 0-10 bad.
What, 2-8?
Yeah.
No, that's exactly right.
I'd say 1-9.
I'd say he's 1-9 bad.
He should have lucked into a win at some point.
Maybe against the Panthers.
Yeah.
There should have been a win.
Yeah.
Also, today was his birthday.
Oh.
He said it's frustrating because we're in these games.
We've got to close them out.
You want a birthday W.
Oh.
And so Spencer Rattler.
So not only is it his birthday, but he had to remind everyone his birthday.
Yeah, he was really hoping for a birthday W.
But you're right about Josh Allen.
I think Josh is doing a good job of saving his true fuck it moments
until he has to use them because otherwise you use all your fuck it moments.
Yeah, and he had a pick early in the first half that kept this game close.
But yeah, then he was like, oh, wait, I forgot.
I'm Josh Allen.
I'm better than everyone on the field.
Let me just end this game right now.
Yeah, yeah.
And in two plays.
I've seen it a couple of times this year where he thinks about going fuck it, but then he's like, I'll save the fuck.
I'll just edge myself.
Right.
And then when the fuck it moment happens, it's going to be even more explosive.
Right, right, exactly.
I love watching James Cook run the football.
He's so good.
He's, I don't know if he's underrated or properly rated, but he needs to be talked about more.
I looked at, I looked back through it.
So, since last year, since the start of last season, including playoffs, James Cook has
2,093 total yards from scrimmage and 26 touchdowns.
He has a touchdown in eight straight games.
This season, he's started with every single game.
He's had a a touchdown and at least 100 yards from scrimmage.
He's awesome.
And so this was eight straight for him, which passes O.J.
Simpson.
Yeah.
So he now has the longest streak of any Bills player.
Yeah.
Good for him.
So I just want to respect James Cook more because I just love watching him run.
And he's,
maybe it's the dreads.
Yeah.
I like watching
a guy be able to...
burst through like the line and he's got his dreads going in the wind like Dalvin.
I like that a lot.
I just don't like when you get two guys with dreads on the same team.
Yeah, like Dalvin and Mattison.
Madison, then you get confused.
Yeah.
But yeah, the Saints are
it's sad.
I don't know.
I will say this about the Bills, if we're going to be fair here.
Their rush defense is bad.
And I know they need Ed Oliver and Matt Milano back.
Those are two big pieces.
Two big pieces, but they gave up 189 yards to the Saints today, 165 after contact.
Yeah.
That's not good tackling.
No.
I think especially at Oliver Solves, he gets a lot of that.
For sure.
And Matt Milano, too.
It definitely is a combo.
But I'm just saying, like, that's something that probably needs
some fixing, especially as they get later.
Because I feel like the Bills, they played the Ravens that incredible Ravens week one.
Then the last three weeks, they've been playing lesser than opponents.
If you look at their schedule, I don't think they have a game that they won't be favored by a significant margin until the Chiefs game in a few weeks.
Oh my God, the Cowboys are going to do this.
Cowboy Pickens scored a touchdown.
George Pickens.
Too much size.
That was crazy.
We'll get to the end of this game, but that was nuts.
I feel like this is the meme.
This is the guy that's in the Cowboys' stands being like, they're cheering like they just won the game.
Memes, you know that one?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, Hank, yeah, you remember that one?
Yeah, I'll put Max Face on it right now.
Packers.
Yeah, it was.
Exactly.
That's what's happening right now.
Yeah.
For that Raymond Rodgers.
That was crazy that they just went down the field like that.
It is.
Like, easy, easy.
What are you looking at, Max?
What do you think?
Was George Pickens just waving goodbye to the Packers?
Yeah, I don't know the fact that.
43 seconds left and three timeouts?
Three timeouts is not going to be.
Did you see that?
Was I looking at that correctly?
They're going to be down three points?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They are very much like.
They just won the game.
Yeah, they are acting like they won the game, but there's a lot of game left.
There's a lot of game left.
All right, anything else, Bill Saints?
No, I mean, the Bills, they're just.
looking at their schedule.
Yeah, who do they have?
Because I looked at it the other day, and it's like pretty much not that they can't lose a game, because, again, they were in the
Saints were in this game in the fourth quarter.
They're going to be favored in every game that they have.
So they're playing the Patriots.
That'll be a good litmus test for the Patriots.
They're playing the Falcons, the Panthers, and then the Chiefs' game.
Whose lines is it anyway for the Patriots?
So that is going to be Sunday night football next week.
That's going to be
in Buffalo.
Oh, yeah, in Buffalo.
Yep, you're right.
I'm going to say Bills minus
six and a half.
I'll just go with six.
DraftKings Sportsbook.
DraftKings Sportsbook.
The Bills are minus eight and a half.
Oh, I should have got more.
Yeah.
Juicy.
Yeah.
Oh.
You're going to do it?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, where are you going to do it?
Adventures of Drake and Josh?
Yep.
Where are you going to do it?
I'm going to do it on the DraftKings Sportsbook.
There you go.
All right, let's talk about the Patriots.
Patriots 42, Panthers 13.
That was an ass-kicking.
Yeah.
A full-on ass-kicking.
The Panthers scored on their opening drive.
The Patriots then rattled off 42 unanswered points.
Holy shit, that was an ass kicking.
Drake May from the Charlotte area.
Cam Newton was his favorite player.
He got into the end zone, did the Superman.
Yep.
Did the Cam Newton celebration.
You knew that Drake May was going to just tuck it and run on one of them.
He knew he had to hit the Cam.
But yeah, great job, Hank.
No fumbles.
No fumbles.
I think he had a basically perfect passer rating.
He's played really really well this entire year.
Dude, he's been.
So Drake May has three straight games with 75% plus completion percentage and two touchdown passes.
He's been awesome.
Yeah.
He was super efficient.
Christian Gonzalez was back, making some plays.
Good to have him back.
That's good for the defense.
Stephon Diggs is back.
Stephon Diggs is back.
Big time.
I mean, he's been playing, but now he's back.
Playing well.
Yeah.
And then also your Marcus Jones punt returning is electric.
He had an 87-yard punt return for a touchdown, then he almost returned another one.
He had three punt returns for 167 yards.
Piquet, on that stat that you said, where it's three straight games for Drake May with a 75% completion percentage and two or more touchdown passes.
There's only one other guy that's ever done that.
Tommy.
Tom Brady.
Good company.
2007.
Great company.
There you go.
Do you got another one?
I mean, we got a long ways to go, but
he has signs.
He plays better in year two than Brady did.
Yep, that's true.
We didn't.
Oh, I guess after winning a Super Bowl, you mean?
Brady year two was a Super Bowl win, but he wasn't
sophomore slum?
Lighting it up as the quarterback.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he looks good.
He looks really good.
How'd Travion Henderson look?
He looked good.
He scored.
Interesting.
No, we talked about that last week.
I said that he needs to make an impact and he's a dynamic player.
And some people said that maybe he wasn't.
Who didn't?
Who said that?
Was it Memes?
I think it was Max.
Oh, he had 32 yards.
Did he have a touchdown?
Okay.
He had 32 yards.
Did he look good?
Did he fumble?
32 yards.
He did not fumble.
32 yards is a lot of yards.
Yeah.
People were saying I said.
Guys like us, it's a lot of yards.
I said it was a get-right game going into this game, and I had people being like, it's not a get-right game.
It's two shitty teams.
Like, the Patriots would be lucky to win.
And I was happy that it was, in fact, a get-right game.
And, you know, we got a huge game on Sunday now.
Yeah, I mean, the Panthers have had the win.
We win on Sunday.
Oh,
what are you going to do?
I'm going to be insufferable.
Oh, soupy.
No, soup.
Not you.
Best team on the show.
If you win Sunday.
Are you back in on that?
If we win Sunday, yeah.
Explain to me how that would be the best team on the show.
Eagles have a hard schedule.
You got you there.
He got you there.
Yeah.
Hank, I have a question for you.
Yeah.
Who would you rather have?
Let's just say that you had a
random NFL team, right?
Composed of exactly average players at every position on offense.
Brandon Aubrey.
Who would you rather have at quarterback for the next
quarter?
That was good, Hank.
Hank's doing well right now.
He's got a little loopy.
I like him.
I like him.
Who would you rather have a quarterback for the next 15 years?
Drake May or Jalen Hurts?
Drake May.
Oh.
But Jalen Hurts has won a Super Bowl.
Didn't throw for any yards in the second half, but he has won a Super Bowl.
He has.
Drake May is younger, though, and
I ride with my guys.
Okay.
Think about Hank.
He rides with his guys.
Yeah.
Even stuff on the side.
If he asks.
Yeah, he's a guy rider.
Where did you watch this game?
Same place I watched the Commanders.
Oh, yeah.
Uber.
Uber Airport.
So what time was your flight?
My flight was at 4 o'clock.
No, what time was your first flight?
6.15 or 6.30.
And what time did you wake up?
7.
Your alarm was going off when you woke up.
My alarm was going off.
So it had been going off for 45 minutes.
Yep.
And what was your thought process at that moment?
Well, I knew we had looked into the flights when we booked them, and there was like none.
So I woke up and I think I texted you guys, like, see you guys next week.
Like, I'm never getting home.
Like, I knew that I was in a bad spot because, like, there was no
flights from State College, no flights from Harrisburg.
And that's why I ended up going to Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
What did you learn on the Uber slash airport?
I learned about the Uber drivers, how Uber has been charging people more money and paying the drivers less.
My driver was really fired up about that.
Really beautiful view.
Very scenic.
A lot of mountains.
Very, very pretty area of the country.
You've been in it before many times.
Yeah, but I've never done the State College to Pittsburgh route.
Yeah.
It was nice.
I was able to watch the the games.
That's the beauty of YouTube.
Was he talking while you were trying to watch?
He was, and I kind of told him, I'm like, oh, hey, I'm putting my AirPods in.
He's like, all right.
And he just kept talking.
What was the total bill on the Uber?
$300.
Oh, geez, man.
I gave him another $100.
Yeah, when he picked you up, was he like, are you serious?
He was like, no, he's like,
he was a talker.
He was like, I'm just excited to get out of this place.
There's so many bad drivers.
Almost got in five accidents today.
I just needed to get out of this town.
Great.
So when you got to Pittsburgh, how long did you have to wait for your flight?
Two hours.
Did you, what other cities did you look up?
D.C., Baltimore.
Philly?
Ever think about driving back?
Yes.
And?
Eight hours.
Okay.
Didn't want to do that.
Yeah.
That would have been tough.
Yeah.
That would have been very tough, especially being hungover.
Yeah.
How late did you guys stay out?
Because the game ended.
You just went home.
I mean, stay college.
I wish I took a picture of the gridlock.
You know the video they always post of L.A.
like
him out on the highway?
That was the scene leaving State College.
Max claims that he was the last person to leave the stadium.
That's a fact.
That's not a claim.
That's a fact.
I was the last person to leave Beaver Stadium last night.
In hindsight, I should have just walked.
It was like an hour and 10-minute walk back to my hotel.
And in hindsight, I should have just done that because I would have got home earlier.
But I was like, yeah, we'll just tailgate, you know, we'll hang out in the parking lot for a little bit and then call an Uber.
Didn't have a lot of time.
Yeah, because the walk would have been.
Bill couldn't call an Uber.
Was it a crisp fall night?
Yeah, it was a nice moon.
It would have been nice.
Yeah.
Can I be trust-tree?
Yeah.
It's a fact I move.
This is a fact.
It's not a fact I move.
It's just a fact I think.
It's a fact I move.
Okay.
I was also chafing so bad, and people were
yelling at me as they were in traffic, being like, Max, you got to get some ointment.
Because I was doing the walk where you're like, oh,
can we trust tree it?
I walked 18 holes on Friday, and I've been chafing every day.
Yeah, it's so bad.
Well, it's like when you're at a tail, like we started tailgating at noon yesterday, you were walking.
Yeah, but I just still, it's fat, you know, our legs, we don't have the thigh gap, okay?
Sorry.
Yeah.
We're not going to be on the chive anytime soon.
No.
No.
It's just not going to happen.
No, it's not going to happen.
Yeah.
So, yeah, because you're walking all day yesterday.
You're going back.
Like, I was doing a lot of walking.
I was chafing.
I was so mad.
I was like screaming mad because Ubers kept canceling on me.
Yep.
I was already mad that
Penn State lost the game.
At one point, the third Uber canceled on me, and I just went up to a tree and I just started banging my forehead against this tree.
Oh, man.
I found out that Matt was going to be.
You actually?
Did that work?
I swear to God.
You were actually banging your horse.
So someone could have walked by and
I'm sure they did.
Did it work?
The next Uber did come.
I'll show
I found out that Max.
He's doing it to the door.
I don't even know.
Is this on video?
Max lost the state championship at State College.
Yeah, he's posting that picture.
Also, your butt crack was showing at the end of the game.
Well, that's the sky's blue.
Max, how mad were you at us?
How mad were you at us when
we said that your offense stunk and then you guys scored a couple points?
And then you called me a fucker.
I scored a a couple points.
Tied the game up, sent it to overtime in the fourth quarter.
Factor Fiction, you were chanting to fire James Franklin about five minutes before that.
I didn't say that.
Can you say that you were at a whiteout if you were sitting in a suite?
We were on the field for the first quarter.
I had such a funny video, too, that I couldn't post.
Well,
Penn State lost.
I was just...
I was heckling the ducky mascot for a while.
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm sure he heard you.
He did.
No, I was right next to him.
And what'd he say?
Kept waving.
Yeah, he he just kept waving.
I was like, keep waving, ducky, keep waving.
And he just looks at me.
He doesn't do anything.
He just goes.
And he just waves.
You're the worst.
Oh, yeah.
Did you think about fighting him?
Act like a mascot.
You're bad.
He was kind of showing you up.
You're like, stop waving at me.
And he just kept waving.
He did.
I'm going to send it to the group.
Little did he know you would be chafing, hitting your head against a tree.
Yeah, no.
In a matter of hours.
The ducky won round one for sure.
Yeah.
I guess it's round two.
They won the big 10 champions.
Yeah, they did.
No, wait, Penn State won that game.
No.
Morgan won that game.
Yeah, Morgan won that shit.
All right, Panthers stink.
Yeah.
30 to nothing to 42.
Like, they won a game 30 to nothing, and then they lost a game 42-13.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I looked it up.
David Tepper has owned the Panthers for 120 games.
How many has he won?
120 games.
I'm going to say 17.
No, better than that.
I'm going to say 35.
Close.
He's 37 and 83 since owning the team, since buying the team.
He's got to maybe look in the mirror.
Say, hey, we've got to change something around.
I wonder how many back-to-back wins he said.
Probably not a lot.
No.
Probably not a lot.
So, yeah.
It's like
the Panthers still got a long way to go.
The Panthers are very good at being like, oh, holy shit, I think we found something today.
Right.
And then that does not translate at all to whatever happens next week.
They are essentially like Max and I
doing a diet for three days and then eating nothing but wings and ice cream
the whole weekend.
Yeah.
Bad week.
We're like, hey,
I think we're actually going to change now.
I think everything's about to change in our life.
And then it flips back and you're like, oh, no, you're a fat fuck.
Yeah, it's like Bryce looked awesome today.
He was in control of the offense, good tempo in it.
And then the next game, he's doing the jump passes that get accepted.
30 to nothing to 42.13 is very hard to do.
Can you pull this video up on the
so that people can see it too?
We'll put it on the YouTube.
I'd like to see this video.
Ducky.
You yelling at the ducky?
We are Hank.
Oh, that video.
Yeah.
We are Hank.
Okay, I have to.
We were.
How many times did you say it?
All day.
Everyone.
There was a lot.
I mean, shout out to
AWLs, a lot of Stoolies.
More than, honestly, I was surprised.
There was an overwhelming amount of.
Wow, you guys are stars.
Yeah, but you never know.
Some places it's a little bit, some places it's a lot.
Penn State was a lot.
every single person was like, We are, we are.
You guys getting the Jumbotron?
They're not getting the Jumbotron.
Oh, but you filmed that video.
I know.
Is that video ever going to see the light of day?
No, I guess not.
Let's put it in the YouTube.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, me.
We don't have the rights.
We don't have the rights.
It's the same as the book.
It's the same as the book.
Play the video.
Play the video.
It's not.
It's not.
Let's go back-to-back videos here.
We gave it to Penn State.
It's there.
People are going to be so mad when they see that, like, the Patriots.
We can't play this video.
The Patriots, Panthers,
talked about for 30 minutes.
Oh,
we definitely are.
All right, here we go.
This is you against the duck.
It's going to be a long night, Ducky.
Oh, you're the worst.
Come on.
Keep waving, Ducky.
Oh, it's great.
All right, wait.
Play the other video.
You have to play the jumbler channel.
I think I deleted it.
No, memes, can you please?
Memes, you got it.
Yeah, I think I deleted it.
I want to see this because I've actually not seen it.
You know what?
You can find it.
PFT's going to do two ads and you find it, okay?
Yeah, hey, memes, play the original one.
Yeah.
No, no, we're not playing the original one.
Play the video, and PFT is going to do a couple ads while you pull this up.
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Okay, Max, you got the video for us?
All right, so this is the halftime pump-up video that was going to play.
And I actually will say right now, Pencil would have won.
They would have won if you had this video played.
Yeah.
I think that's fair to say.
You don't think that's the truth?
You guys don't think you would have been able to figure this out?
You guys should be arrested for this.
Yeah.
I'm taking my headphones off for this one.
Okay.
What's up, Happy Valley?
It's Hank and Max here from part of my talk.
Today's the day.
Today's the day that we once again remind America who has the best stadium atmosphere in college football.
So we're going to need everyone to get loud.
We're going to need everyone to get wild.
And we're going to need everyone to get unruly.
And let me hear it from all 106,000 of you in the seats.
We are.
We are.
We are.
Thank you.
That was
the best one by far.
There was another one that was probably 20 times as bad.
The call in response.
Yeah.
Shout out Hank
spilling his drink all over my laptop.
Man, I'm so sad that that didn't get on there.
Did you guys think it was going to?
Were you like waiting for the moment?
No, I was really hoping that they were not going to play it.
Oh, man.
I knew I had too many friends that were there that would have just made fun of me for way too long.
Well, now they'll see it.
But it's different.
Yeah, it's different.
It's different.
This is like
I'm supposed to be made fun of.
This is the trust tree.
Everyone, when you're listening to this, do not repeat what you just heard.
Okay.
Don't say it to anyone.
Don't share it anywhere.
It's not like there.
There's more people at the stadium.
It feels like there's more people at the stadium than there are that listen.
It's true.
Not even close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But still, it's different.
Sure.
Okay.
Let's go to Lions Browns.
Oh my God.
The Cowboys are going to do it.
That was a crazy, crazy.
Was he throwing that away?
He was throwing that away.
The Cowboys are going to win this game.
That was insane.
Holy shit.
This has been an insane game.
Packers, they still probably are going to win the Super Bowl, but their defense doesn't look like it's that good.
Man.
This is bad.
That was
crazy.
Packers.
Yeah, they're going to win the Super Bowl.
All right.
Lions 34, Browns 10.
This is why the Lions are so scary.
Because this was such a letdown spot off a big Monday night win on the road.
Come back.
Browns have a good defense.
Doesn't matter.
They'll just fucking work you and work you with their defense, work you with their offense.
Aiden Hutchinson was insane.
He was everywhere.
He had two sacks, two tackles for a loss,
forced fumble.
Just insane, insane game from him.
What are you looking for, Hank?
You're making motions to Max.
Max has his mic on.
Oh, shit.
Oh, he's chewing into the mic.
Yeah, we were hearing the noises.
That's my bad.
That's my bad.
He was incredible.
And then the offense is, you know, it just.
The offense wasn't that good today for the Lions.
Yeah, well, the Browns' defense is still elite, but they still, the Lions have not given up a sack in three straight games.
Browns have a pretty good defense.
Yep.
Also, Jameer Gibbs, like, he, you know, it wasn't as easy as it's been, but he had a nice game, even though the Browns have shut down all running backs.
So I just think the Lions are just so, so impressive.
Yeah, the Lions are a complete football team.
Special teams with a touchdown today, too.
Yep.
They dominated this game start to finish.
Chief Raymond then going and kissing his wife, I believe.
That should have have been taunting.
It is taunting.
Just being like, I have a girlfriend.
I'm married.
Yeah.
It was
an ass-kicking.
And the Browns didn't, their defense was great.
It's time, I think, as a nation to talk about what to tell your kids about Joe Flacco getting benched.
Oh, well, no, actually, they don't have to do that.
So I wrote down, I love Joe Flacco.
Yeah.
And
why would I
make a guess or say anything when Kevin Stefanski can lead the way.
And when he was asked about a quarterback change, he said, quote, I understand the question, but that's not our focus.
Yep.
So I think that should just be our line as a podcast.
We understand the question, but it's not our focus.
But I think this is a question that you should be prepared to answer from your children.
Right, but we understand the question.
I'm not going to answer right now.
I'm not going to tell you how to be a parent out there.
That's not my job.
My job is to tell you what to think about football.
Right.
But you might want to start thinking about how you're going to have that conversation with your kids about No More Joe Flacco.
I just love the I understand the question, but that's not our focus right now.
I would have been like, I don't understand that question.
Yeah, right, right.
Why are you asking?
You want me to predict the future?
Yeah.
I don't know if we're going to be here tomorrow.
Who knows?
That'll be dead.
Yeah, it's probably time, though.
By the way, the Cowboys just got stopped.
Micah Parsons made a big play, and they are forcing
the Cowboys to kick a field goal.
This is why you take Brandon Aubrey in the first round.
Yeah.
What was that?
What was that, Max?
I think it was like a 20-yard field goal.
I said a big field goal.
Yeah.
Not a long field goal.
It's to win the game.
It's not to win the game because they had the first possession.
The Packers didn't touch it?
No.
The Packers have not touched it.
Big field goal, not long field goal.
Yeah, no.
Would you say it's a big field?
I don't think you would take a kicker in the first round to kick a 22-yard field goal.
Correct.
That part.
Yes.
Yes.
I disagree.
It's probably time for Joe Flacco.
I'm not going to say it.
We understand the question.
There was a pass.
There was a pass in the first half that I think any neutral observer could look at and say, okay, it's time.
Yeah.
Okay, it's time.
He's not happy anymore.
His quality of life isn't that great being the starting quarterback.
The Browns have experience doing funerals for a dog.
They can do the whole thing.
He's got to go all the way to fucking London for the next game.
He doesn't want to do that shit.
No.
Come on.
That's crazy.
But I guess he still does want to get paid.
Yeah.
It's time.
Zach, I got a question for you yes sir when you uh
when you game how late are you gaming till
uh depending on the night the latest i'll a weeknight or weekend weekend on a weekend i'm playing pretty late how late uh if the boys are on and we're firing nothing too insane like like 130.
how do you feel the next day
If I, if I, if I'm able to fall straight to sleep afterwards, I'm good.
I'm not the best at falling asleep sometimes.
On those days, not the best.
Is it ever hard for you to fall asleep after gaming?
Yeah, I don't do well falling asleep.
I asked this question because,
and this could be fake, but someone, I think, found Amon Ra St.
Brown playing 2K at 4.29 a.m.
That's not a good look,
but
if they're on a streak, if they're...
I mean, he had two touchdowns today, so it's not really a problem.
Do we know that it was him?
It said Amon Ra St.
Brown.
He was just walking around, and like the guy was like, He's been on for this long.
I was gonna say, Do we know he didn't just wake up and maybe he was a little early?
No, because it said that he had been on for a while, but it might be like Marky Mark.
I can
send you
a break.
I saw the tweeter, like, there was someone else that was on too, until like 1 a.m.
It was very, very funny because it was his avatar was just like walking around in like a playground, it looked like.
Yeah.
Um, so I don't really know.
I don't, maybe you can explain what happens in 2K better to us.
He's walking around the park.
Oh, there's a virtual park.
You scroll around painting.
Oh, here it is.
You got it.
All right, play it.
So this is this is Monroe.
The person thinks they found him at 4.29 in the morning.
You can play it?
They go on the 18-game streak.
Bro, it's fucking 4.29 a.m.
in the fucking morning.
And you got a game at 1 o'clock tomorrow.
Amaron Say Brown.
Get the fuck off 2K.
You got money on you, gang.
And you over here streaking.
What streak you got?
Nigga on an 18-game streak, man.
Go to bed.
If y'all fucking parlay his fuck up, y'all know why, bro.
He's on 2K at 4.29 a.m.
You can't go to bed on it.
You can't go to bed on a 17-year-old.
On that type of streak.
Yeah, you got to keep going.
Yeah, I need to know.
Like, how long did that streak get?
Did he lose?
If you're on a 17-game win streak running twos on my park, you go until you lose.
There's no other option.
18-game streak, 18-1.
I would go to bed, actually, because 18-1 looks really bad.
But 18-0 could turn into 24-0.
True.
Yeah, good point.
Either way, he had two touchdowns, so I think he's fine.
Yep.
And yeah, the Lions are really fucking good.
And Jameer Gibbs, again, like the Browns have stuffed everyone running.
You think he had 89 yards, broke a couple.
So, yeah.
Lions are just scary.
This is going to be so, so disappointing to our beloved fans over in Europe and London.
They bought these tickets to see the Browns play,
and with the understanding that Joe Flacco is going to be the quarterback.
I think they'll be all right.
I don't know.
Yeah.
We're trying to grow the game, Hank.
They should play Shador.
Dylan Gabriel.
Definitely Shador would get people in the seats.
Grow the game.
Yeah.
All right, next up.
Texans 26, Titans 0.
Why don't we just go to Cam Ward for this one?
Cam Ward after the game
said, do you want to pull it up, Max?
Because it's better if he just says it.
We have Cam Ward here.
Welcome to Cam Ward to the show.
Here's what he said after the game.
I mean, we're keeping a buck right now.
We asked.
So we owing for it.
We have this point we got nothing to lose.
We dropped a quarter of our fucking games, and we've yet to do anything.
So we have to lock in,
especially myself on the offensive line, from the defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces.
We have to play together.
We have not played together this year yet.
And that's just something that, you know, we want to preach about it every day.
Every day, we got to do better.
And we're doing that, but it has to show up on Sunday because it hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week.
If we keep it a buck right now, we ask.
We asked.
They asked how he played.
He said ass.
Yeah, they are ass.
They're beyond ass.
Lil' bro ass.
They're so bad.
Now, I like what Cam Ward's saying because I like it better than what Callahan's saying after the game because Callahan just tried to fight somebody.
He wants to fight the media after the game.
Like, they're going to ask you questions about being ass,
and you have to understand how to answer those questions and coach speak without trying to fight somebody.
Yeah.
Cam Ward does a great job.
He's like, yeah, we're ass.
Good point.
Ass.
That's us.
It was.
Guilty as charged.
Ass.
But Callahan is like, our guys fought out there.
We fought.
He always tells the media, like, they fight.
These guys fight.
And doesn't really say too much about how they're playing as a football team.
But yeah, it's not good.
Not good for the Titans.
I just hope we're getting into a situation where they might be actively ruining Cam Ward.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does feel that way.
The whole thing is just a mess.
His whole game was ass, as a matter of fact.
It was an ass game.
Although the Texans did, like, C.J.
Stroud looked good.
He's getting just killed all the time too, but he had his first clean, good game.
Neither team got into the red zone until the last play of the third quarter.
Yeah.
It was
that's ass.
It was big time ass.
We also have some weird stuff.
Oh, one other thing.
For a takeie
next year, I think we need sack of the year.
Jeffrey Simmons, sack on C.J.
Stroud, where he jumped the snap so perfectly.
Yeah.
He's up there for sack of the year.
Other nominee that I have, I don't know if you guys saw this, but there was a guy on Twitter who in 2022 said he will donate his left testicle to science if Tennessee wins more games than Clemson over the next three seasons.
Okay.
I looked it up.
They had exactly the same amount of wins the last three years, 30.
So I would assume this year would be the tiebreaker.
Yeah.
So Tennessee versus Clemson, this year's the tiebreaker.
You are nominated for sack of the year, Mr.
S.
Roach 3396.
I would also nominate Oldie.
And Oldie.
Yes.
But yeah, Jeffrey Simmons, sack of the year.
And there have been some great ones.
Like Crosby had a good one.
Yep.
There have been great sacks.
Yeah.
So after the game, we had Legerius Snead.
Did you see what he said?
I did not see Legerius Snee.
Legerius Sneed.
So Legerius Sneed before the game, during the week,
when asked about guarding Nico Collins, he just replied, who?
And like, Nico Collins, who?
He said that multiple times.
Nico Collins, who?
So he doesn't have a lot of respect for Nico Collins.
Nico Collins did burn him.
I I think there was like a second in 23 where Nico Collins just broke him down.
Afterwards, when asked about it, Legerius Need said, we all get beat, but does he get paid like I get paid?
Okay.
So.
Who gets paid more?
Technically, Legerius Sneed has made more money in the NFL, $49 million to Nico Collins, $34 million.
But...
Nico Collins signed a three-year, $72 million deal.
Legerius Snead signed a four-year, $76 million deal.
So I guess if he's going the total money,
I'd rather three for $72 than $4 for $76.
They're still in the same tax bracket.
Yeah, Nicole, they both made $19 million last year.
And then I think this year, Legerius Need, just the way his contract works out, he's making $24 and Nico's making $14.
So, yeah, technically, he does get paid more than him this year.
They're both in states with no income tax.
Correct.
Maybe does one get paid like bi-weekly?
I don't know.
One gets paid monthly.
He doesn't get paid like I get paid.
There's checks coming every two weeks.
There's a lot of things that are worrisome about the Titans.
I think the guy who is supposed to be one of your best defensive players basically in a post-game where you got absolutely worked as a team being like, well, I get paid more than him.
Probably not your favorite thing ever.
Probably not.
But, I mean, such is life for the Houston Texans.
This was the, it was the Texans' best game.
By far.
By far of the year.
Their defense was, again, really, really good.
I don't know when they start to have that conversation about Callahan.
They're probably having it right now.
I kind of like the idea of him just fighting his way out of this.
Yeah.
I mean,
he is like the most hostile guy to the media ever.
Good.
Because he's upset that they're asking questions about his job.
Well,
he's in a spot where it's like he knows he's probably going to get fired.
It can't be the most fun to just get your ass kicked and then also have to be asked about it all the time and just be like, you're this is where like you kind of feel bad sometimes for the coaches who are like you get put in a rebuilding situation and then when you suck,
it sucks.
But yeah, he's probably going to get fired.
I'd say that Vrabel won that breakup.
Yeah, I would say so too.
Big time.
But the Texans might be back.
Who do the Texans have next week?
The Texans are playing.
Do the Texans rip off a couple?
Again, at the Ravens.
Oh, wow.
I mean, maybe no Lamar, right?
We can get to it.
Yeah, we'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
Okay, next up, afternoon games.
Rams 27, Colts 20.
Very important question for you guys.
Can we still say the Colts are undefeated
because they beat themselves?
I don't think so.
Okay.
I don't think so.
Okay.
But they did beat them.
They did get a win.
But that's still a loss.
But it's also still a win.
It's a win and a loss.
So they're 4-1?
Yeah, they're 4-1 right now.
Because they beat themselves.
The Rams, we'll talk about Puka Nakua and Stafford and the Rams' defense.
But
the Colts had A.D.
Mitchell fumble going in for a touchdown.
We were due for one of those.
Fumbled out of the end zone.
So that was seven points that he just gave up.
A.D.
Mitchell also hold on the Jonathan Taylor awesome touchdown run that should have been, it would have been so sick.
I think A.D.
Mitchell has, he beat the Colts today.
Yeah.
11 penalties, two Daniel Jones interceptions, and here's the one that got to kill you.
When the Rams scored their 88-yard touchdown, 2-2 Atwell, the Colts had 10 players on the field.
Yeah.
Lou Andrew.
Beat yourself more than what the Colts did today.
That was a,
you just got to
be disgusted with how that game went.
So A.D.
Mitchell had a moment where it was like, okay, maybe it's not the end of the world.
Because yes, he did fumble on the one-yard line when he was shifting the ball from his outside arm to his inside arm to get ready to celebrate the touchdown he was scoring.
Fumbled it through the end zone, but then I think it was the next play.
Yeah.
The Rams fumbled it.
So the Colts got it right back right after that.
Yes.
And then they ended up getting a field goal out of it.
So you can just, you can point at yourself and be like, yeah, we should have scored a touchdown there.
That might not be the play that cost us the game.
But then when you add in the hold on the touchdown and then you add in 10 men on the field that they just take advantage of and 2-2-Atwell scores what was it 88 yards 88 yards that's yeah 88 degrees yeah so so the colts four and one on the year yeah but it was a bad loss to themselves it was a really bad loss like themselves but a really good win against themselves because they beat an undefeated colts team they right all those mistakes they got blown out by themselves yeah but and they blew out an undefeated a once undefeated colts team they beat yeah soundly that that is true they covered soundly
but yeah i think the colts are still fine.
I think this was always going to be a tough game to play.
Go on the road against a really good team, really good defense.
Yeah.
Well coached.
And Puka Nakua.
So Stafford.
This is actually the best kind of loss that the Colts could have.
Yeah, they can just point at all these mistakes and be like, hey, we got to clean a few things up.
Yeah, we got to win and we got to loss.
If they clean some stuff up, I think they'll be okay.
So Puka Nakua, there was two things.
One, Stafford, that 96-yard touchdown drive they had to finish the first half was like like surgical clinical Stafford.
And Puka Nakua was completely unguardable.
I don't, like, 13 catches, 170 yards, and a touchdown.
He has 500 yards through the first four games, and I say that because he is the first player to have 500 yards through the first four games twice in his career.
He's done it twice now.
That's crazy.
He did it two years ago.
That's, I mean, he's so fucking good.
Great player.
Rams, very, very good team.
Yeah.
Yeah, their defense also, like, had some big-time moments where they were pressuring Daniel Jones.
Yeah, the Rams are for real.
And the Colts,
yeah, I walk away being like, I think the Colts are,
I saw this as a big test game, and yes, they failed the test, but also they hung.
Could you ever imagine, though, a Sean McVay team doing something like this?
What do you mean?
Like, if the Colts with those three giant mistakes that they know, not all three.
Not in the same game.
Yeah.
By the way, the Packers have it third and 14 in overtime.
And are they going to throw a flag?
No,
let's talk about.
Oh, they did throw.
No.
No flag.
That looked like a flag.
One second left.
Are we going to get a tie?
One second.
Tie.
Tie.
I've just put it on the table.
Are they going to tie this whole time?
I've just been.
Yes, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie.
Tie.
I've just been saying tie back here.
Oh, my God.
20 times.
Tie, tie, tie.
Holy shit.
What are they doing?
I never even.
Are they going to tie?
I hate tie back.
I never even cried.
I thought for a a second they wouldn't try to go for it again.
It never even entered my brain that they would tie it.
I mean, fourth and 14.
You go for the tie.
It's got to be tie.
It's a Sunday night tie.
Got it.
A Sunday night tie is tie.
Oh, man.
Tie.
There's a tie.
40 to 40.
That's got to be a gamma.
Got to be a gamma.
That's got to be a gammy.
Let's look it up.
Got to be a gammi.
Has to be.
Oh, man.
That's gotta be the also, like,
no one cares about your bets, but I would imagine there's a lot of people who teased the Packers
to one.
And then a tie happens.
Oh.
Score Gami is not loading right now, so that tells me maybe a lot of people on it.
Well, the Ravens lost.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, so he's probably.
Oh, man.
What do you think?
A tie paid out.
Tie probably was electric.
Sunday night tie.
40 to 40 is a score of ami.
All right.
Let's go.
Score a gami.
Sunday night tie.
Wow.
What a game.
It's kind of fun because we can just be like, well, we don't know because they tied.
Yeah.
Like, there's no really bold proclamations to make for my tie.
No, I'll make a proclamation.
Okay.
That was a loss for the Packers.
The Cowboys won this tie.
Yeah, the Packers lost.
It's very, very clear.
Cowboys, this is a dominant tie by the Cowboys.
Yeah.
And you should be able to dominate the Cowboys.
And you didn't.
Cowboys did it up to them.
Yep.
40 points.
Yeah,
you guys would agree, right?
There's a loss for the Packers in for the Cowboys.
Yes, massive, massive win.
Yeah.
What a tie.
Nick's probably so happy right now.
I do think the last four weeks of the NFL and the media just saying non-stop, oh, the Cowboys lost their best player.
They're fucked right now.
I think that had way more of an impact on the Cowboys than it did on the Packers.
Yes, I would agree.
Like, Micah Parsons obviously was pissed and wanted to prove a point tonight, but everybody on the Cowboys was extra motivated.
Yes, yes.
And they never talked about Kenny Clark.
It's true.
Right.
The broadcast really...
I don't know if you guys knew this, but Micah Parsons did play for the Cowboys.
Yep.
It was pretty heavy-handed,
including Jerry Jones speaking when they were like had Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones talking about the contract negotiations while Micah Parsons took the field.
It's quite something.
Tie.
Wow.
We have a tie.
I love that.
And a walk-off tie.
You should go for it.
How can you be happy with a tie?
That's bad.
That's bullshit.
Just go for it.
I do kind of blame the Cowboys for this tie.
How so?
In overtime, they should have tried to score a touchdown at the end.
Yeah, but they had the ball first.
Got to score.
They were like, hey, if if we get a stop.
Got to score a touchdown to win.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Rams, Colts, anything else?
Puka Nakua is awesome.
Yep.
Colts beat the fuck out of themselves.
Yep.
Like, beat the fuck out of themselves.
Yep.
Okay.
Next up, Jags, 26, Niners, 21.
The Jags are 3-1.
Do we have a new rivalry game?
We might.
We might.
Some bad blood?
Yes.
Peace out.
Shout out to Liam Cohen.
Yes.
For
going up to Salah, who I guess set the stage.
Earlier in the week, Salah made a point about how all the guys from McVay's coaching tree legally steal signs during the games.
Yep.
And they know what's happening.
Yep.
I think he was trying to put that out there just to be like, hey, Cohen, we know what you're up to.
You should probably change whatever it is that you're doing at the last second.
Yep.
Because we're aware of it.
Cohen didn't really care for it.
And then after the game, they had a little spat.
A little midfield spat.
Cohen told Salah, keep my name out of your mouth.
And looked like you wanted to fight him.
I I just want to say for the record, Robert Salah would beat the shit out of Liam Cohen if they got into a fight.
And it looked because it looked like Cohen wanted to fight him.
Yes.
Pretty good.
Although, did he?
Well, he also had his hand behind somebody's back and then did not make any effort to remove his hand from their back as he was pretending to get around the whole back guy.
I was going to say, Robert Salah, like...
He would beat the fuck out of Liam Cohen, right?
Snap him in half.
I mean, Liam Cohen, nice guy, liked to have him on.
Would love to have him on again.
And it's no offense to him, but Robert Sala, like,
you don't fight a bald-headed guy.
I think Cohen knows that.
Right.
A bald-headed football guy, no, thank you.
Yeah, saying, keep my name out of your mouth is as good as landing a punch.
Yeah.
In his mind.
Yeah.
But yeah, this was a rivalry game.
So
the Jaguars, though, 3-1, very close to being 4-0, if it wasn't for Jake Browning's heroics in that game that Joe Burrow got hurt.
The Jaguars' defense, too.
We talked about it last week.
Remember, we said that they had nine turnovers, takeaways on the season and through three weeks.
Yep.
And they had nine takeaways all of last year.
They had four more today.
They have 13 takeaways on the year.
They had four turnovers today.
They just forced turnovers.
By the way, I went and looked it up.
There are two teams through three weeks with zero takeaways.
And we want to guess.
Zero takeaways.
The Jets?
Yes.
And the Dolphins.
Yes.
Okay.
We got to bet for some turnovers today.
Yeah.
Tua.
I mean, come on.
Tua is done.
Zero takeaways.
Like, the Jets and the Dolphins are going to take the ball away.
Tua just did the KM Newton.
I got you.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Because, like, and Justin Fields.
Is it Justin Fields?
Do we know?
Justin Fields coming off of Kikasha.
Okay.
So those guys will give it away, right?
You would think so.
You'd think so.
You would think so, yeah.
But this was,
yeah, four.
They've generated at least three takeaways in all four games this season.
Yeah.
The Jaguars.
It's pretty crazy.
That's what they're doing.
They're calling it.
You know what Jordan Lewis is calling it?
What is he calling it?
Strapsonville.
Strapsonville.
Yeah.
I don't know what that means.
Can somebody explain it to me?
Is that gun?
Get the strap.
Get the strap.
Get the strap.
I thought it was like
Trayvon Diggs would say.
Get the strap.
Huh.
Strapsonville.
But Strapsonville.
The Strapsonville Jaguars.
I like it.
Yeah, why not?
Let's use it.
And
Etienne's awesome.
It's been very good.
It was tough for the 49ers.
They lost Pearsall in the second half, and they're down to like nobody.
I think Jennings might have gotten hurt, too.
Yeah.
They're down to like nobody at wide receiver to throw the ball to.
They basically just need Christian McCaffrey to do everything.
Yeah, do everything.
Which he almost did.
He almost did.
And yeah, they need some guys healthy because this is...
I'm not ready to say Brock Purdy is bad, but he probably needs.
Yeah, Christian McCaffrey was the leading rusher and leading receiver.
So he's doing everything.
He's trying to do everything.
You need to get some guys back.
Yeah, Purdy should do like
as much as he can.
He should do like 50%.
Purdy should just not come.
He shouldn't have come back until at least one of his guys was back.
Yeah, I agree.
Like Ayuk or Kittle.
I agree.
But this is, it's not, it's not a fun offense that he's having to run by himself out there.
And now they have a short week playing Thursday night football.
Who do they play?
I believe they play the Rams.
Is that not right?
They play the Rams on Thursday night.
That's going to be...
I feel like we didn't have that game last year that was
like
12 to 9 or something.
That was the one that was in the rain.
And we just bet every over.
Not even like a single prop came in.
Yeah, 49ers Rams.
Yeah.
Over under 47.5.
I'm kind of buying some Jaguars stock.
I think they got some new culture.
3-1.
Yeah.
I don't know if they're...
I don't know.
We'll see.
I mean, anyone could win the AFC South.
That loss to the Bengals is going to linger in my brain.
Yeah.
That's the problem with it.
Yeah.
But they got some good tests coming up because they play the Chiefs, the Seahawks, and the Rams.
Like, those are going to be,
if they find a way to go two and one in that stretch, then you have to be saying the Jaguars are for real.
Yep.
Also, yeah,
did you mention that Kyle Shanahan after the game said he doesn't think that Liam Cohn should be sensitive about it when talking about the sign-stealing stuff?
I like that.
I like that good rivalry.
Yeah, he's being sensitive.
See you again in four years.
Great rivalry.
We should make a trophy for this one.
We should.
AWL hit me me up and said that when we eventually get to 18 games, there should just be trophy week.
And every team should have a rival that they play a trophy for.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
Like,
Roger Cadell, meet us halfway.
You're going to make us fucking play a million games overseas.
At least give us stupid trophies that we can get pumped about.
You can even do like your dumbass new uniforms just for the trophy week.
And I don't, I want it on the record.
I don't want it to be like classic rivalries because I think that would be cheap in it, where it's like, oh, it's Bears, Packers, now they're playing for a trophy.
That's stupid.
It should be, it should almost be funny.
You know what I mean?
Where it's like,
the Jaguars and Niners play for a trophy.
It should make no sense who you're playing, but just make that a new rivalry that then you play a trophy for.
Who would you want the Bears to play for a trophy week?
Raiders would be fun just because then you'd get to go to Vegas every other year.
Who would you guys want to play?
I think everybody would want to take Vegas just.
Vegas would be sick.
I'd take the Patriots.
You take the Patriots?
Yeah.
Who would you take memes?
Bucks.
Okay.
You take the Bucs.
Do you hate Zach?
No.
I'm not a fan of Bayes.
Who would you take, PFT?
Actually, I think the Bears should maybe take the Cardinals because
there's a lot of Chicago people that live in Arizona as well.
So that would be a nice.
Or the Commanders.
No, we have a rivalry.
Yeah, we have a tattoo bet.
Yeah, that's a trophy.
But we don't need a trophy, dude.
Maybe it should be AFC NSC though every time yeah I would actually I think that's actually the rule Titans I think we should take the Titans you got the Titans I already got the Raiders well you should want to pick a bad team
They fight yeah, but dude, you don't know if they're gonna be bad in the future I think I'd be bad forever.
No, you don't know that It's like you schedule you make a schedule for a team 2030.
You don't know where they're gonna be as a program Patriots okay
Either way, yeah, we should do trophy games trophy week.
Yeah,
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Okay, last two games, then we'll do a little Sunday night football talk as well.
Bears 25, Raiders 24.
Listen, ugly win, but a win is a win.
Culture win.
That's a game the Bears lose a million times.
Tough to watch at times, but it ended up the two things that I was very enthused about.
One, the defense
took the ball away because the defense is not great, but they took the ball away multiple times.
Kevin Bayard was awesome.
And then Caleb's game-winning drive because they needed it, and it was a 12-play drive.
He was four for five, 42 yards, two scrambles for 18 yards.
Win is a win, and now the Bears are back to 500 going into the bye week, so it felt good.
It was a game that, seriously, I was like, the Bears are not going to be able to win this game.
And then they did the two things that never happened.
One, blocking the kick, and two, or one,
the game-winning drive for Caleb, and two, blocking the kick.
I thought the Bears were going to win this at halftime when they came back, and Ben Johnson just like ripped into the sideline report.
Dude, he's a psycho.
That was fucking.
He snapped.
I think he snapped on that one.
He said it in the post-game locker room.
He was just like, this is culture.
We're building culture because.
No nonsense.
This is.
I can't remember who.
I think it was actually Kevin Byrd said it.
He was because he got a game ball.
Yeah, here's Ben Johnson
after the half.
You need to change what you're doing.
I don't know.
You think so?
We're going to be just fine.
But it was daggers.
Yeah, it wasn't the words.
He just stared her down.
Yeah.
Like, okay, yeah, we'll change everything.
No, we're doing.
We're going to be just fine.
But Kevin Byers said it.
He's like, we're known as the team that if we get down, we give up.
And that was the opposite of this game because, like, the first half, the Bears should have, if they had run competent offense at times in the first half, they would have been up multiple scores because of the way that Geno Smith was giving the ball away.
But it was, Max Crosby is a monster.
I don't know, like, he just wrecked that game.
He was just everywhere and killed, found enough ways to get out of the pocket, to scramble around that they won.
And they're happy.
Also, this was kind of the Ashton Genty breakout game.
You survived the Genti breakout.
I knew it was going to happen.
Three touchdowns, 138 yards rushing.
How many yards receiving did he have?
17 yards, but two touchdowns touchdowns through the air.
He was everywhere today.
And he does get hit a lot in the backfield.
Yeah.
He gets hit a ton in the backfield, but he's still very good at keeping his balance.
No, this was the.
He was awesome.
Yeah, no, I knew I said it, but the things I was most scared about was Max Crosby.
Duh.
That's so obvious.
He's just everywhere, every single snap.
And he can't get to you.
He gets his hands up.
That interception the first half.
He's everywhere.
And then Ash and Gentee, I was like, the Bears, there was all that smoke about the Bears maybe picking him.
Didn't.
I know the Bears run defense has struggled, but
I was like, Ash and Gentee is going to have a breakout game.
He did.
But credit to the Bears defense because that third and one to force the long field goal, what a huge stop.
Like, they weren't able to get a stop all day
and they were able to get it there.
It was basically either the Raiders marched down the field or the Bears got an interception.
Those were the two outcomes for the defense until that stop.
Yeah, Gino had a hard time out there.
Yeah, so Gino said after the game, and this is, Hank, remember I alluded to it that I had a quote for you
about you missing the flight and maybe being a child?
Gino said after the game, the guy I'm supposed to be hasn't showed up yet.
Maybe that's what you got to tell people.
Yeah.
Like, listen, the guy I'm supposed to end up being here, he's not here yet.
I'm going to start using that.
Yeah, we're still growing up.
My golf game?
The guy who's supposed to be there, he's not there yet, okay?
He just isn't.
When do you know that the guy that you're supposed to be is there?
I don't know.
I know he's not there yet.
Do you feel that way?
Are you like, yeah, it's me, the guy I'm supposed to be?
Or are you like, after the game, do you say, the guy I'm supposed to be?
Yeah, that was him.
Yeah.
Like, credit to him or
credit to you.
I'll tell you what, I'm using this for advisors.
The guy I'm supposed to be gambling has not shown up yet.
He's there somewhere, but he hasn't shown up yet.
Because he was bad today.
Yeah.
And he was bad last week, too.
Yeah.
I don't know that they have another plan, though, besides that.
I think they just have to roll with Gino no matter what.
Yes, I'd say so.
I'd say that's right.
Maybe AOC when he comes back, but they paid Geno a lot of money.
The guy that he was supposed to be, is that Tom Brady?
He shouldn't take a paycheck, right?
If the guy he's supposed to be hasn't shown up yet, you're paying a guy
who's not there.
You're not paying the correct Geno Smith yet.
Yeah, it is fraud.
He should definitely.
He's a quote machine.
He is a quote machine.
He's got some good quotes.
Tried to write me off.
By the way, Josh Blackwell, who blocked the kick afterwards, I love any of these stuff.
He said that the Bears long snapper told him during the week that the Raiders' long snapper has a tell on the snapping the ball.
He subtly moves the ball right before he snaps it.
Okay.
And Blackwell said that the first two field goals in the game, he thought he had like a perfect jump and almost got there.
We've seen so many block kicks this year.
Yeah.
Now, have we seen more, or have we just seen more block kicks that have like a direct impact on the end of the game?
I don't know, but this one was cool.
This one was a little different than like the Eagles because the Eagles just blew up the middle.
This was off the edge.
This is a perfectly timed overview.
Off the edge.
Yeah, like you know, when you fuck around on Madden and be like, I'll just take a million penalties trying to block this kick.
Yeah, how do you feel about a buy, early buy now?
I like it just because we have so many injuries.
We're on our Tyreek Stevenson, got an interception, then hurt himself.
I think we're now on our sixth cornerback.
Okay.
Like our top five, maybe four, are are out.
So maybe
some guys get healthy.
It'd be nice.
And it also just feels like that was a good win.
That was a good win.
Hard-fought win.
Ugly win.
But winning ugly is part of the game.
You know what I mean?
You can't just hope that you blow out a team like you did the Cowboys last week, who just tied the Packers.
No big deal.
I also just say Cairo Santos, who I've maybe given a little bit of guff to because he doesn't have the strongest leg, was awesome today.
Four for four, hit big kicks, needed every single single one of them.
Offense, we had like a comedy of errors when it came to offense.
We had that snap that took us like a lot deeper,
some bad sacks.
So Cairo Santos came up huge.
Okay, the other thing I noticed about this game was Ben Johnson's bag, maybe sack of the year.
So he not only had a variation of the pretend to fumble the snap that he had Caleb run.
Yep, which was a weird timing on that one.
It seemed like it's a little early in the season.
If you're emptying your sack against the Raiders, unless he does have the unlimited deep sack, which he might.
He might, but it was more that it was third and one on your own 30.
Yeah, it's a strange time to run it.
And then he also did what I think everyone that's ever watched a flea flicker has suggested at some point to their friends when they're drunk.
Yep.
Like, what if you do the fake flea flicker and you fake the pitch back and then you just keep it and run?
That was a cool play that he used.
I'm waiting for the next evolution, the fake, fake flea flicker,
where you fake pitchback, fake run, and then you pitch back.
Yep, how many different iterations of this can we pull off?
I like that.
Uh, by the way, that play got ruined because DeAndre Swift got called for a face mask.
I'm gonna keep the vibes high and not say that DeAndre Swift is starting to bother me, so I'm just gonna keep the vibes high.
Okay, it was the most blatant face mask I've ever seen on a very cool play.
Yeah, I'm just excited because this was a
win.
Like, last week was an exciting win because the offense broke out.
This week was an exciting win because you had to find piece together, find ways.
It was two desperate teams because the Raiders are in the same spot as the Bears.
Like, you don't want to fall to one and three.
You want to try to get back to two and two.
Two desperate teams fighting their balls off, and the Bears found a couple more plays more than the Raiders, which is something, again, they haven't been able to do for a long time.
And you beat Tom Brady.
Yep.
And his advanced scouting.
And his advanced scouting.
That's good.
I have an insult stat that's actually a compliment stat to Ben Johnson.
You probably already know the stat.
Yes.
Would you care to respond to it?
Because I have seen the graphic floating around.
Ben Johnson now has more Sunday road wins
than Matt Eberflues had in his entire tenure.
Correct.
Matt Eberflues 0 and 18.
Sheesh.
Now,
in defense of Matt Eberflus, because he doesn't really have a defense,
he did technically win a London game against the Jaguars where we were the home team.
It was on the road.
But it was
the home team.
Yep.
That's fair.
Yeah.
But he also, it's very funny when you look back because he just won all of his road games were just Thursdays or Mondays.
Do you think if somebody brought that stat up to Matt Eberflues and said,
you never won a road game on a Sunday as the Bears' head coach, do you think he would say Jaguars?
Actually, the Jaguars, it was on the road.
Technically a road game, but we were the home team.
Technically a home game, but yeah, a road game.
Yeah, because it is the real sadness about that stat is
guys who've been on the Bears roster for all of the Matt Eberflus years and now for Ben Johnson,
besides the Jaguars game, never got to take a flight home on a Sunday happy.
Feeling happy, yeah.
Think about that.
I mean, that's insane.
It is crazy.
Three years, 0-18, on the road, on Sundays.
Except for the Jaguars in London.
If you didn't already have a bad culture, that's the kind of thing that would make it a bad culture.
Yeah.
And it's just like,
I know that it's just coach speak or whatever, but like the way that Ben Johnson talks to the locker room just feels so different than what Matt Iberflues was doing.
And I saw, I don't know if you guys saw his quote from earlier this week, which was, I loved it.
He was just like, We're not here to be friends.
I'm here to coach these guys hard.
I'm here to tell them the hard truths.
Like,
they will respect the way I coach them because it will make them better.
Yeah.
So I'm excited.
And Roma just looks like a number one.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
And Zacchaeus, thank you for him.
Yeah.
He's awesome.
Thank you for him, Zach.
Yeah.
Max.
Yeah.
He looks awesome.
Probably need
to get some defensive health and maybe another running back.
But again, good vibes going to the bye week.
Excited.
The gateway is wide open.
So what's ⁇ do you have a name for the bye week?
You had the portal, then you had the gateway.
No, no, it was gateway.
I did portal last year.
It was a gateway game.
Today was a must-win.
Okay.
I think
the bye week is the bye week.
Nobody get hurt.
Commanders game's going to probably be a can't lose.
Okay.
So we don't have to win it, but we can't lose it.
Okay.
Did you win it or did you lose it last year?
Or did you not win it or did you lose it last year?
We just, it bottomed everything out.
Yeah.
I think that was a loss that reverberated.
We lost it multiple times.
We let a loss turn into another loss, another loss, into another loss.
Yep.
This also continues to streak the teams after they play the commanders lose the next week.
oh yeah
yeah so who do the falcons have next week that's big i wish i could say that we beat him up
i'm still gonna roll with the stat yeah you gotta roll i gotta roll with any sort of positive news yeah you gotta roll with the stat uh
yeah and again i can't say enough max crosby he's so scary yeah just everything about and when he's bleeding and he never comes off the field ever he never comes off the field He's so fucking good.
Falcons have the Bills next week.
Oh, so they have a bye week as well?
The Falcons do?
Oh.
Well, damn.
I don't.
Are we good with the fact that it's bye weeks now?
I'm not.
Too early.
So that's why I asked you about it because I hate having the early bye weeks.
I like it just because the Bears' health issues.
That's where I'm happy that they have the bye week.
If they were a fully healthy team, I'd be like, dude, we got to keep this rolling.
We just won two in a row.
Feels good.
I just hope that some guys can get healthy.
Yeah, because you come back from that, then you have 13 straight games.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a lot of games in a row.
Okay, last game.
Chiefs, 37, Ravens, 20.
The Ravens are in trouble.
Are they dead?
The Ravens are one and three.
I actually think that the Ravens are going to make the playoffs.
I think they're probably going to win that division, too.
Oh, you think they're going to win the division?
Yeah.
I don't think that's even that hot of a take.
I don't know, man.
Their defense stinks.
Yeah, their defense is bad.
They got a ton of injuries today, including Lamar.
Yep.
Or do you think that's not real?
I don't know if it's real or not.
Okay.
But I think Roquan got hurt.
Yep.
I think there was a bunch of guys that got hurt today.
I think they lost,
who did they lose?
Stanley, maybe?
They lost a lot of guys throughout the course of the game.
Can we look up and see what the odds are for the Ravens to win that division?
I think, I don't think it's that high of a take.
They're minus 200.
Yeah.
They're still the favorite.
Rob Kingsworth.
Yeah, I'm not.
Nothing.
I don't like anything about the Ravens right now.
I'll just say that.
It just.
All right, so Lamar got hurt.
Ronnie Stanley got hurt.
Roquan Smith got hurt.
Marlon Humphrey got hurt.
Nate Wiggins got hurt.
It's a lot of guys.
I'll say one thing about the Ravens.
They did figure out Derrick Henry's fumble issues.
He did not fumble today because he only carried the ball eight times.
Yeah, that did not make sense to me, but Lamar.
I mean, they were down fast.
Lamar, he contracted fumblitis from Derrick Henry.
Spaggs had him in hell.
So Lamar, he's not like an all-time bad fumbler as a quarter.
He's had some very, very prominent, noteworthy fumbles and bad times.
Correct.
Lamar is just one of the worst at recovering fumbles.
Yeah.
So if you look at the stats,
I think he's lost maybe the,
well, he's had like the eighth or ninth most fumbles of any quarterback that's active right now.
But I think he's number one or two in terms of how many he's lost.
Yeah.
So he's just really bad at picking his fumbles up.
And they're just like comically, yeah.
They're comically bad because he's like got one hand on the ground.
He's trying to spin around in the backfield.
so when he loses a fumble he really loses a fumble um by the way i found the stat i was looking for 50 other teams have allowed 133 plus points through uh the first four weeks of the season only two have made the playoffs
so that's really what it is for the ravens for me is like their defense is just is atrocious right now they are very very bad defensively yeah yeah and and i'm just kind of sick of the ravens shit too i don't know that's that's why i don't know if this was a get-right game for the chiefs or if it was just we have all of our guys back they're healthy or the Ravens defense sucked.
I'm just, is there a chance,
and you're right, like the Ravens winning the division is not a hot take because they're still favorites and they probably will.
But is there a chance this could be the year from hell for the Ravens?
Is there a chance?
They've had a few of those.
No, I know, but like
they've been
building, building, building.
Yeah, they obviously had Lamar get hurt, what was it, two years ago when Tyler Huntley had to come in for a bunch of games.
I don't know.
They're
I'm not impressed by Pro Bowler, Tyler Huntley?
Yeah, Pro Bowler, Tyler Huntley.
I'm just not impressed by the Ravens.
They're going to show it to me.
So I keep saying, like, oh, the Ravens will be just fine.
Mahomes is now 5-1 against Lamar all the time.
And he is also 12-5 straight up as an underdog.
Yeah.
When he's not favored.
So we said on Sunday or on Friday show that after this game we'll have a conversation about Patrick Mahomes.
I'm ready to have that conversation.
What I have for that conversation is
he's still the best quarterback in the NFL, and they're probably going to the Super Bowl.
I would like to add on to that.
He's actually 6-1 against Lamar, 5-1.
So I don't want to give him any more bullets in Board.
Would it be a hot take to say the Chiefs are going to win that division?
That's what we should just do.
Be like, oh, Chargers lost today.
Yeah.
Chiefs won.
It's the Chiefs.
No, I mean...
He got Xavier Worthy back.
He spread the ball around perfectly.
I know he missed a couple throws, so he had four touchdown passes.
He's the fastest.
He's the youngest quarterback to throw 250 touchdowns.
It's his 18th career four-touchdown game.
He's fine.
The Chiefs are fine.
They're going to be in the AFC Championship game at minimum.
And he didn't lead the team in rushing.
And he didn't lead the team in rushing.
He has some weapons back, and they're going to get even more weapons back.
You know, Rashi Rice is going to come back.
What's very funny about that is, you know, who did lead the team in rushing?
Who?
Xavier Worthy.
Oh.
So a wide receiver led the team in rushing.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, they still can't run the ball like they should.
Hank, this bothers you?
This doesn't.
No, I mean, they're going to be fine.
They obviously heard the people in the media saying they weren't going to make the playoffs.
They're washed.
The run is over.
But in their defense, they also heard the people in the media say you should never listen to someone talk on a podcast.
And that's why would you ever take what someone says on a podcast?
True, but yeah,
for one more week, they're still the Chiefs of old.
They looked really good.
Patrick Mahomes looked great.
They're going to get more weapons back as the season goes.
You said
the way you said that.
Probably.
You said for one week they're the Chiefs of old.
So you think this was just a one-week aberration?
You never know.
The Ravens defense is really bad.
Does it bother you that the way that we talk about the Chiefs, especially saying, oh, everybody wrote them off.
You wrote them off too early.
They're still the Chiefs.
That's the exact same way that we used to talk about the Patriots.
Yeah, it does.
Hey, listen, we said we were going to have a conversation.
We're having the conversation.
Patrick Mahomes is just fine.
The Chiefs are going to be just fine.
They're going to,
again,
be there in the end when it comes to the Super Bowl playoffs, AFC Championship game, all that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, they are.
I know.
You know.
I was hoping this was, I was, I was just, you know, hoping prayer game, and it didn't work out.
Right.
They started 0-2, but that's...
Your Hank is now focused on the Chicago Ave closure of the bridge.
Yeah,
he doesn't want to be late for work.
We were conversing, and you just looked directly at the TV and squinted your eyes.
We were mid-conversation, me and you.
I was doing.
Multitasking.
Yeah, wait, wait.
Wait, this is...
Is he going to turn off the TVs?
No, it's like, listen, Hank showed, he misses a flight, and he's not here for half the day.
You're mad at him about that.
And then he's actively taking steps to plan his commute for tomorrow so he can be here on time.
But you won't let him do that either.
He can't exist.
He can't exist.
He can't exist.
Hank, I'm on your side.
Are you going to run the marathon?
Half marathon?
No, not this year.
Yeah, the Chiefs are going to be fine.
So, do you think Lamar's actually hurt?
I don't know.
It was weird.
It was definitely a combo of like, oh, we're getting dogwalked.
Maybe we should just sit him.
Yeah.
But he could have a hand-me.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think it's maybe he felt uncomfortable, and he was like, fuck this.
I'm out of this game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just, I don't know.
I'm kind of just sick of the.
I think the Ravens just have to
do something to
they have to
basically win me back to be like, hey, they're fine.
Mm-hmm.
I think.
And that was going to be what I was going to say out of the loser of this game being one and three.
One and three feels bad.
I think they'll be okay, though.
Okay.
Yeah, they probably will.
But I just, that defense is so bad.
They've got to fix it
fast.
The Texans should be a win.
I don't know.
That pass rush is good.
Their defense is good.
The Rams, that'll be close.
Is that who they have next?
The next two games?
And then bye, and then.
Wait, no, so it's the 12th
against the Rams, and then the 26th against the Bears.
The Bears, so they must have a bye week.
Yeah.
I mean,
the Texans and Rams aren't easy games.
No.
I know the Texans are not
great, but
that's a desperate team.
You've got to win that.
It's a must-win.
This is the earliest possible must-win for the Ravens.
They unlocked this week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Because if you look at the, they have lost to good teams.
That's the other thing you can point to for the Ravens.
Yes.
Yes, they lost to the Bills.
That was a great game.
Crazy stuff happened at the end of that one.
Yep.
But still a choke.
Yep.
Defense was bad.
They beat the Browns.
They lost to the Lions, but were competitive, very competitive against the Lions.
Defense, again, still a joke.
And then the Chiefs.
Those are three very good teams that they lost to.
And yes, their defense looked like dog shit against all three of them.
But I think that they'll be okay.
Yeah, they'll probably be okay.
I'm more saying I'm done with the Ravens in terms of being a Super Bowl contender.
I think they'll go to the playoffs, but I just
feel like their flaws just keep coming up.
I don't trust them at all.
Right.
That's how I should have said that.
I moved the Ravens officially into my do not trust this team, do not believe their lies after the Lions game.
Correct.
I am going to,
I am am definitely think they will be in the playoffs one way or another, whether it be winning the division or getting a wild card.
But yeah, I'm not going to trust them.
Yep.
Just not going to trust them.
All right.
Packers,
Cowboys, 40-40.
We talked about it throughout the show.
Sunday night football ties should be illegal.
Sunday night football ties should be illegal.
I want to go to bed with some sense of finality.
You have to end the day with a winner and a loser.
What are you shaking your head for, Max?
I love ties.
Dude.
We root for ties every time there's overtime.
In the middle of the day.
That's fine.
No,
I do root for ties in primetime when it involves a divisional foe.
Correct.
But I just,
I think you need to have...
I demand satisfaction to end the night.
I need a winner and a loser.
What's that?
Ties.
T.
It's a T for tie.
So the Packers probably, or sorry, the Cowboys probably should have gone for it
at goal line, you think?
I think so.
Yeah.
It probably would have helped because then they would have,
if they don't get it, the Packers don't go all four downs.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
So when we were watching the game, it was while we were recording the podcast.
And I thought that the Packers had had the ball and punted earlier in that.
So when they were going for the field goal, I was like, surely they're doing this because they want to win the game, but the field goal.
Yeah, that was a mistake.
They should have gone for it.
No, there were only two possessions in overtime.
Kind of shocking that the Packers' defense got lit up like that.
Yeah.
And
also the game, it felt like flipped on that end of first half possession where the Packers were trying to get a couple extra points, called their timeouts, got the ball back, and then Jordan Love fumbled and the Cowboys scored a touchdown.
It was like, holy shit, this game just flipped.
It's almost like the Cowboys,
they knew what the Packers' defense was going to be doing.
Hmm.
Kenny Clark?
Hmm.
Is Micah Parsons a mole?
Wait, the Cowboys knew what the Packers' defense was going to do.
Yeah.
That would have been
Kenny Clark.
Is Micah Parsons a mole?
Micah Parsons was telling the Cowboys?
I'm thinking Jerry's like, hey, we're going to do this big feud.
Got it.
We're going to send you up to Green Bay because they keep kicking our ass, especially in the postseason.
Yeah.
And you're going to be my guy on the inside up in Green Bay.
Yeah.
Let me know what the defensive game plan is going to be tonight.
Okay.
And then their defense wasn't good enough to get a win out of it, but the offense was.
Yeah, I mean, it did feel like one of of those,
and I'm a big believer in this, that now
the Cowboys' defense is not good, but I do think the Packers' defense is better than what they showed tonight because I do think there are times when the Big 12 game breaks out and there's nothing you can do about it.
And it's like just the flow of the game gets chaotic, and both defenses, I mean, George Pickens was awesome.
He was great tonight.
So good.
Fucking love George Pickens.
Felt like all those deep shots were working.
But the Packers were moving the ball however they wanted it as well.
Yeah, Josh Josh Jacobs with a good night.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was really that.
The reason why we got to a tie was that
fumble by Jordan Love at the end of the first half.
This is crazy because it's honestly, it was a very fun game.
Yes, very fun game.
I think that's why you're upset that it ended in a tie.
Correct.
I want to have a winner and loser.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe Sunday night football doesn't have as much to do with it as just a 40-40 football game.
Should have a winner.
It feels like somebody should win a game that's 40-40.
Also, why can't we just do the college football overtime?
The new one?
Like player safety, all that shit, I understand.
But wouldn't that be less plays?
Yeah.
I know the two-point conversion is kind of clunky.
The two-point conversion fest is a little clunky, but
hopefully not.
So the Packers beat the Cowboys because it's a tie, so they retained the win from the last time that they played.
From the last time.
Because it was 40-40 tie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just, I'd like, I'd like satisfaction.
I'm like a winner and loser.
I'm okay with having that little dash one at the end of each
record, and then that screws everything up at the end of the year.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, that part is funny.
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Hank, Ryder Cup.
Let's talk about it.
Yeah.
So go ahead.
The U.S.
just didn't give himself a shot to win.
I mean, they got as close as they could on Sunday, but being down seven points going into singles, you're statistically never going to win that.
Weird pairings.
I don't know what Keegan was doing.
Very, very weird pairings.
Yeah.
The one that he had with, was it Murakawa in English?
Mm-hmm.
And it was like statistically the worst possible pairing that
he ever could have come up with based on the math.
And then he just did it again.
Just going with his gut.
Yeah, I don't know what the thinking was there, but he did it.
Like, are they?
On Friday,
everyone got roasted for it.
Then he was like, you know what?
I'm going to do?
I'm going to do the same thing.
And then he had his two best.
Was it Bryson and Scotty?
That was the...
afternoon of Saturday.
That was like a desperation.
Like, we got to get a super team.
So he got worked.
He did Morakawa and English.
That was just like, let's throw this one.
I guess.
I don't know what the thinking was there.
especially when it came out where it's like, and they said that the Europe, you know, was using data and doing a lot of stuff with data for picking their matchups.
Clearly, the USA was not doing that.
And then when they were told, like, that was statistically the worst matchup you could have picked, to do it again was weird.
So my biggest takeaways from this, one was
why did they not make the course harder?
Because they said that
that was an advantage for the U.S.
But it wasn't.
It was not.
Because it was basically, I saw the statistic halfway through Saturday where they're like, the U.S.
and Europe are basically identical in T to green, and it's become essentially a putting contest, and Europe is kicking their ass and putting.
And the greens weren't difficult.
Right.
And they're just working them.
And there was no like bad spots to hit it.
And the Courses, that's what the Course is known for.
Is being hard.
Yeah.
But they like nerf the rough.
And the other one was, I just feel like Team Europe, they like each other way more.
Definitely.
And it actually matters in this type of tournament where you can be partners with someone, fight with someone.
Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood almost made out.
They were fucking embracing.
They loved it.
They were embracing
a guy coming back from war.
It was...
I think partially that they like each other, but also partially that they really deeply, deeply care about the Ryder Cup.
Right.
And they don't.
I think that our golfers, they want to win the Ryder Cup.
They take it seriously, but I don't think that they, like, this isn't the most important thing to them.
It just felt like
when Bryson would try to get everyone pumped up, it felt like it was not contrived, but a little bit contrived.
And then when Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood are fucking literally making out on the green, it's the most passionate moment of their lives.
So I was rooting hard for Bryson on Friday.
I put a bet on him also rooting for the United States, and it got very frustrating to watch every shot that Bryson hit that doesn't go the way that he wanted to.
Yeah.
He like looks at his club, like looks at the ground.
Like it's everybody's fault but Bryson's swing.
Yeah.
Like he did the calculations in his head perfectly.
And if it doesn't go exactly where he thought it was going to go, then he's like, he's like, something in the universe must be conspiring against me.
Yeah.
They just pulled up to Tommy Fleetwood.
That's two lovers, the way they're embracing.
Yeah, no, Bryson, and then Bryson had his moment with Justin Rose that was,
it felt like he was in the wrong.
Was that not right?
Like, Bryson tried to fight him, basically, like, almost got physical.
It got, there was, thank God that the U.S.
came back on Sunday because I think this was trending to be one of the most embarrassing Ryder Cups ever.
It was an ass kicking.
It was ass-kicking.
We had state troopers had to get involved because the fans were, and I'm all for, like, I think we all agree on this podcast.
We love fans getting unruly and heckling all that stuff.
But I think the problem was guys, fans were doing it like when they were, like, about to swing on a putt and, like, about to hit a T-shot.
And I think Rory's wife might have gotten hit with something.
Yeah, it looked like a drink got knocked into her hat is what the
further footage showed.
But yeah, Rory was...
I got to give credit to Rory.
I feel like he handled it.
I know he said, like, fuck you one day, but...
That was actually pretty cool.
Yeah.
And then we also had the most embarrassing video of all time where they were trying to get us to to do a bunch of chants where it's like we will we will rock you instead scouty scouty shuffler.
Yeah, that was and the MC had to the MC was either fired or resigned the one that led the fuck you Rory chant.
Yeah, that that was one of the most embarrassing videos.
I think I've ever seen and that was what we were talking about last week that Europe just does the chants better and all that stuff.
We had someone trying to hold their hand to do a chant, not only a chant, but also to a song that was a British song.
Wasn't that Gary Glitter?
No, that's Queen.
Oh, yeah.
Queens, we will rock you.
Yeah, so
figure out a little context on that one.
But,
yeah, overall, just pretty embarrassing for USA Golf, right?
We don't need a cheerleader.
No.
Let me rephrase that.
You shouldn't need a cheerleader.
No.
It should be organic.
You should be able to do this on your own.
But yeah, it was a bad showing.
Sunday was exciting.
Yeah, Sunday was exciting.
Sunday walked back.
It would have been maybe the biggest comeback in sports history.
Yeah, it was right.
150 to 1 when we were looking earlier.
I mean, Cam Young was awesome.
Justin Thomas was awesome.
Those putts they hit on 18.
But overall,
I just don't think that our guys care or like each other.
Well, there was also some bad breaks, too.
What wasn't a bad break was our putting sucked.
Yeah.
Scotty Scheffler
was not making anything.
He also pretty much dunked a shot from like 130 yards yesterday, hit the cup and the pin, and then bounced out.
Which, I mean, just bad luck.
Patrick Cantley blew a three-foot putt that would have gotten him a point.
There were some unlucky moments, but overall, we just couldn't putt.
And we made a course that was easy to putt on if you're a good putter.
And then Europe just kicked the shit out of it for two days non-stop.
The Ryder Cup was pretty much over after the morning session on the first day.
Oh, it's Friday.
Even on the first day, three to one.
Yeah.
And then the two dumbest rules ever that they should fix:
Victor Holland being injured and having it be a halve-match where each team gets a half a point.
That's the dumbest rule of all time.
And Keegan having to pick basically who's your worst golfer.
Yeah.
That sucks for him.
Yeah, Harris English has got to see that envelope get open and just be like, fuck, it was me.
I think he knew it was going to be him.
But I was saying
to Whitney, like, I wish I had known this rule.
I would have thrown myself down the stairs the first day of our Ryder Cup.
I would have given him a hammer and been like, go ahead, just hit me in the fucking.
Could Europe have just said, hey, everybody's hurt?
Yeah.
We all got hurt yesterday.
And the fact that a tie, obviously they won outright, but there was a moment that it was tied and there was a chance that it was going to end 14-14.
But Lowry hit that putt to get the 14th point.
And he celebrated like he won the whole thing because he did.
Because if a tie is just whoever won it last time gets to retain the cup, that's really stupid.
It is stupid.
Just fucking play a playoff.
I would have asked every golfer, did you guys win the Ryder Cup?
And they would have said yes, if they're foreign.
And then I would have said, no, you didn't.
You actually retained the Ryder Cup.
Yeah.
So you didn't win.
But they took that away from us.
You know, it'd be electric.
If they, if all future ties in the Ryder Cup, they do 12v12 alternate shot.
Try to stay warm on that one.
That would be good.
Also,
you just don't know when your shot's going to happen.
Happens like if you're the 12th guy, your shot's going to happen on like whole four.
If it had been a tie, what Keegan should have done is go over and say, hey, nobody wants a tie.
How about just tomorrow?
Victor Hovland versus Harris English, 1v1.
Winner-take-all.
Yeah, Victor Hovlin better be really hurt.
Doesn't look like he's that hurt.
Really?
Yeah, he was celebrating after.
He's kind of joking about it.
What, his neck hurt?
He's moving his neck.
Yeah.
Because I know that.
That neck do?
I did say that Victor Hovlin needs to be,
we need a private investigator to follow him around like he had a workers' comp claim.
And then I had some European people be like, we would have won anyway.
Butterfly effect.
You don't know the pressure.
Yeah, that's true.
You don't know how things go.
It did look like we had a chance, though.
Yeah, it was an electric.
There was a moment on Sunday.
After Justin Thomas, like Cam Young doing it.
And Bryson.
And then Justin Thomas.
But Bryson could have, have, he came back and obviously got the half.
But if he had somehow won that,
I think we would have pulled it off.
Bryson and then Scotty, and there was that.
Bryson, what did you think about it?
I mean, we just been talking a lot about ties and halves.
Bryson celebrated the half.
Oh, yeah.
He forgot to shake the guy's hand.
Well, he was down five.
Patrick, yeah.
He was down five,
seven in.
Seven holes in.
He was already down five.
So it was a hell of a comeback.
But there was a moment on Sunday where it was like,
is this actually going to happen?
And we were, it was like witching hour into the afternoon slate.
And
MLB was going on, and it was like, this is the best moment ever.
Everything's happening.
Could have happened.
It was so close.
It was so much fun.
Okay, we'll talk a little MLB with who's back.
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Hank, who's back of the week?
Who's back of the week is Jason Tatum.
Oh, yeah.
He posted a video.
He's working out.
He's back on the Achilles.
He's working out.
When you have a star player for your basketball team and they get hurt and you think it's going to be a long injury and you get to see them on video and you just hear him talk in interviews and hear the staff talk about how hard he's working and how much he wants to be back on the floor.
It's just very reassuring.
I don't know that I want him to come back this year.
I feel like it looks like he's going to.
Has Brad Stevens said anything about it?
They just do the coach speak like we're going to try to get it back as soon as we can, but we don't want to rush it.
It was kind of shocking to see him running up and down the court.
Yeah.
Like, holy shit.
He just tore his Achilles.
Yeah.
So you think he's going to play
this year?
I don't know.
I hope he doesn't, but I feel like he really wants to.
Yeah.
So he's working out six days a week.
I think what's going to happen is he's going to continue to put up all these workout videos, and then you're going to think the whole year, like, maybe we'll get him back for the playoffs.
And then he won't come back.
I'd be fine with that, though.
I don't want to, I definitely don't want to rush it.
It's a long game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel feel like you've got to tell them at the start of the day, hey, no matter what, you're not playing this year.
Yeah.
Well, happy for you, Hank.
Very happy.
Yeah.
Thank you.
PFT, your Who's Back of the Week?
My Who's Back of the Week is growing the game.
Oh.
Developing the international audience for the NFL.
Hank, you like this?
Super Bowl halftime show.
Oh, yeah.
Bad Bolony.
Bad Bunny.
Baboni?
And now I'm just addicted to saying every name like Bad Bone.
Bad Bunny.
Bad Bunny Rich.
I don't know.
The people that don't like Bad Bunny.
Well, you got to remember, the Super Bowl halftime show is going to be.
I mean, it's Twitter, so it's like a small echo chamber.
But there's a lot of people who watch football that probably don't know who Bad Bunny is and want it to be Aerosmith or, you know, the Rolling Stones.
It's not.
Metallica would have ripped.
Yeah.
So they're going to just...
be like, this sucks.
And it's like, I don't give a fuck.
I'm going to watch football.
Super Bowl halftime show,
I don't really care.
I'll say it.
I do not care.
Yeah, it's important to me because I like to see how it's being satanic.
Yeah.
I like to wake up the next day and be like, hey, here's what the NFL was trying to message you during the halftime show and read all those because those are some of the most schizophrenic people on planet Earth and I love taking a dip into their brains.
But yeah,
I do not watch the Super Bowl for the halftime show.
Right.
I'll say it.
If you have a hot take.
a really strong opinion about the Super Bowl halftime show, you're not a fucking football guy.
You showed yourself.
That's it.
You're in Glorious Bastards doing the three.
You've got to watch film at halftime.
You got to figure out what to bet in the second half.
Right.
Babbon.
Anyone who's pissed off, guess what?
You don't like football.
You're an anti-football pussy.
It is addictive to say Babbon.
Babbon.
There's a lot of quarterbacks that you can do, the Bat Boni.
Josh Allen.
Josh Allen.
McPanix.
McPanix.
Yeah, so Bad Bunny.
Baboni.
He's back.
I was hoping for Metallica.
I thought Metallica would have been a good choice.
It is like they're part of the world, so that would have been cool to see them play there.
I was also thinking maybe Miley would have been great for everybody.
I think everybody would have loved Miley.
Yeah, Miley.
But yeah, Taylor Swift, that would have been the NFL doesn't want to make it that obvious that they're rigging everything for the Chiefs.
Because didn't you say that the Easter eggs were saying that she was going to be it?
The Easter eggs.
Well, there were a lot of Easter eggs that were saying that she was like pointing to the number, whatever it was,
60?
I forget.
So, what happens to everyone who did the Easter eggs and said that she's 100% doing the halftime show?
There should be a penalty.
Well, it's like the people that
predicted the rapture.
Yeah, you wasted our time.
Got to kill yourself.
Yeah, kill yourself.
You wasted our time.
Because that was a big thing.
All the way she talked about it, the clock behind her, the numbers.
You wasted our time.
Yeah.
Not everything's a thing.
But sometimes you try to make it a thing.
Yeah.
All right.
My who's back of the week is playoff baseball.
Boys, it's time.
The season ended.
We had a wild end of the season.
So
the big story, I would say, is the Guardians and what they did in the last month and a half of the season.
The Guardians won the AL Central
with a walk-off home run, which they didn't even need to win, but it was kind of awesome that they did that.
The Guardians were...
At one point, on July 6th, they were 40 and 48.
They had lost 10 in a row, and they were 15 and a half games back from the Tigers.
And you're like, well, that's July 6th.
That's a really long time ago.
Yeah, of course.
They were under 500 until August 26th, okay?
They were 10 games back then.
They were 9.5 games back on September 10th, I believe.
It's insane what they did.
And the Tigers, obviously, they fell apart.
The Tigers, from August 23rd to the end of the season, the Tigers went 9-2.
The Guardians from August 26th to the end of the season went 23-8.
It was insane.
So, what a season.
The Guardians also have to be pumped that they're playing against the Tigers.
Yeah, and they're playing at home against the Tigers.
It also probably will ruin a few fan bases and general managers going into the future when they're 15.5 games back, and they're like, we're still in this.
Remember the Guardians?
Yep.
Because imagine.
Think about this.
Not only the fact that they...
Because they had already clinched the playoffs, I think it was like two days ago, three days ago, but the fact they won the AL Central now emboldens every general manager because it wouldn't have been as cool to be like, hey, remember when the Guardians were 15 and a half games back and they made the wild card?
They get to just be like, wait, my formula is about to kick in.
Yeah, now they get to say.
Trust the process.
The stats, the numbers work.
Yeah, they were 15 and a half back and they won the division.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Things are about to regress to the mean.
My stats are going to get us to the playoffs.
Just hang on.
And then the other one, the Mets.
Memes, the Mets at one point had the the best record in baseball.
They were 45 and 24.
They were 9-15 in September.
They ended up 83-79.
45-24 to 83-79.
And credit to the Reds.
I'm happy for the Reds.
The Reds haven't been in the playoffs since 2013.
So
awesome story for them.
Jeff Passon told you.
Yep, Jeff Passon, who will get on later this week.
He told us on Pardon My Take that they were the dark horse.
Also, did you see Terry Francona?
I think it was Friday.
Maybe it was Thursday.
He said he got to the park.
They had a night game.
He got to the park at 9.45 in the morning and got in full uniform.
Yes.
So jacked up for baseball.
That's the baseball man in him.
It's like, what else am I going to do?
There's nobody more baseball than Terry Francona.
Yeah.
So Reds, awesome story.
Mets, memes.
What do you got?
This is also.
Yeah, the Reds aren't really an awesome story.
They lost today.
Like, the Mets are just a bunch of spineless pussies and they just couldn't get it done.
Oh, damn.
But that's cool for the Reds.
Yeah, good for the Reds.
Good for the market.
No, good for the Reds.
Good for the Reds.
The Reds, the Reds, they're going to get their teeth kicked in by the Dodgers.
Okay, the Reds are a small market team.
The Mets spent so much fucking money, and Steve Cohn said
he promised a World Series in three to five years.
No,
he said he'd be disappointed if they didn't.
So is he disappointed?
Oh, yeah.
I hope he goes on a rage spending spree.
He's going to spend his way out of this.
I hope so.
The Mets also finished the season 0-67 when trailing after eight innings.
That's a crazy stat.
The first time I heard it,
I was like, that's a Frank stat.
Yeah.
And it is a Frank stat, but it's actually the rare Frank stat that's also true.
Yeah.
And Pete Alonzo was out the door before the game ended.
Oh, yeah.
I was shocked when I saw that.
He's out.
Yeah, he's a free agent again.
He's opting out, right?
Yeah.
He's opting out of his contract.
Good chance he comes back?
I would say there is a good chance, but you never know.
I heard you guys were signing Josh Bell.
That's what Frank said.
I don't think so.
But Frank's been on a heater recently.
Yeah, Frank was right.
Say Frank was right.
He told me this team sucked even when they were good.
Say Frank was right.
Yeah, Frank was right.
Okay.
So we have Guardians hosting the Tigers, Yankees hosting the Red Sox.
Exciting.
You excited?
Oh, yeah.
The Cubs are hosting the Padres.
Excited for that one.
And the Dodgers are hosting the Reds.
Hank, who are you rooting for?
Your Padres?
Socks and pods.
You're a big San Diego guy.
Yeah.
So
we'll be doing late shows to recap the games.
I'm going to go to,
I'm very excited to go to playoff baseball regularly again.
I caught a foul ball.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Off my chin.
Yeah.
Not as awesome, but still.
Still awesome.
Did you have a glove?
I did not have a glove.
Did it land in your seat?
It landed.
So my kids.
I was at the game on Friday.
I took my kids to the game on Friday because they were, like, CPS had a
teacher teacher day or whatever.
So they didn't have school.
So I took him to the game.
My kids were getting ice cream with my wife at the time.
It would have hit right, it would have like direct shot on my son's brain.
And I missed the ball, so I would have been liable.
Did you keep the ball?
I gave it to my kids.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Yeah.
Actually, I gave it my kids' friends were there too.
And then one of those kids might have started crying, so I gave it to him.
So they have shared custody of the ball.
Yeah.
Nights and weekends.
Yeah.
Well, my kids have gotten a couple balls too, like, like tossed to them.
But yeah, it was cool.
I have the video.
I did a really good job of
holding it up like I caught it really quickly because I didn't catch it.
So like I wanted to
get people to think, yeah.
Yeah, like everyone's like, oh shit, he caught it.
Oh, that ball didn't hit him on the chin.
Yeah,
it hit right on my chin.
It was, uh, it was thrilling, though.
I've never had a ball even hit close to me.
Did you go back and try to find the
game feed to see if it caught you?
No, yeah, no, I'm gonna send it to Max right now.
Dom sent it to me right away.
Oh, it's the game, the actual feed.
Yeah, yeah, the game feed.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I should have made a better play, but I also never had a ball even come close to me.
And also, my seats are like close to the net, so I've never seen a ball hit in where my seats are.
Right.
So when it started happening, I was like, holy shit, is this coming to me?
Here it is.
There you go.
And then I
was like, I got it.
Yeah.
There was a clear reach down there.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No,
I missed it.
It hit the ground, hit my chin, and then I got it.
That's what I love about Wrigley's.
They'll like boo you if you drop a foul ball.
Oh, people were pumped for me.
And the guys next to me were like, shit, we should have gone for it.
Because to me, that doesn't look like a drop.
That just looks like a landed found.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
No, it hit my hand on the way down.
I'll fully admit that.
I just think I was so shocked that it was coming to me that I just didn't even think about it.
You're into the sun, though.
Yeah.
Tough play.
Yeah, it was tough.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Tough play.
You're right.
You're right.
But yeah, that was cool.
But I'm excited for playoff baseball.
I'm very baseball.
It's going to be fucking awesome.
Max, how are you feeling about the Phillies?
About the fight-ins?
We'll see.
We have a buy.
You're the biggest Reds fan there is.
I will be rooting for the Reds this week, correct?
Yes.
Very hard for the Reds.
I will be rooting for the Reds this week.
Dodgers are good.
I mean, we kind of own the Dodgers, but the Dodgers, you know,
their roster is just so stacked.
And Shohei is pitching like the best pitcher in baseball right now, which is so scary.
That's not fair.
Are you afraid of the Brewers at all?
That's so far down the line.
Well, that's just baseball.
It'll be one series.
But
there's another series.
The Phillies aren't playing yet, so I'm worried about the Reds-Dodgers series.
Then I'm worried about the series that we play of the winner of that.
And then potentially I'm worried about the Brewers.
The Brewers still have to get there.
Like, the Phillies have to get there.
The Brewers have to get there.
I could be worried about the Pods or the Cubs by that point.
Okay.
Right now, priority number one is...
Dodgers, Reds.
Dodgers, Reds, rooting for the Reds.
Rooting for the Reds.
And then...
I mean, the Cubs had a winning record against Brewers, sure.
Cade Horton is hurt, which is very bad.
But yeah, we played the Brewers tough.
Yeah,
the Brewers swept us, I think, back in May, and then we won two out of three this past month.
So, like,
we can beat the Brewers.
Also,
shout out to the Mariners getting a buy.
Oh, yeah.
Good for them.
I'm happy for Seattle.
Very weird that they were finishing the season against the Dodgers.
Yes, a very cursed sports town, but you can't help but root for the Mariners.
Yeah, Cal Raleigh is fucking, he's our guy.
We're going to try to get him on again before the playoffs start.
So, big dumper.
Zach, you finish this off with a Who's Back of the Week?
My Who's Back of the Week is Zion Williamson.
Zion Williamson has completed the Luca diet and looks like he lost an entire Zion.
Yeah, he does.
He looks fantastic.
So here's the problem, though, with Zion doing this.
What if he's not good?
I think he's good.
Right, but what if he's not?
Because then he doesn't have the...
He just needs to lose a little weight.
I mean,
they always say you can't pull fat, right?
Yeah.
But he figured out.
He looks awesome, but I'm just saying,
do you see what I'm saying?
Like,
when you get, when he gets in the best shape of his life, he's got to be good and not get injured.
He looks like a different guy.
He played well before he was getting hurt and stuff, but I think he's going to be good.
But also a big part of his game is throwing his body weight around.
Yeah, fat ass.
Wow.
Yeah, he does look like a completely different guy.
Like, if things don't go well for Zion in the first couple months, he might just say, I got to get fat.
I got to get fat again.
Yeah, right.
That's what I'm saying.
That's a super easy city to do it in.
Good for Zion.
I said that about Jordan Davis like week one, that people were running the ball on the Eagles, and I was like, He's got to get fat again.
Yeah, right.
He is playing the best football of his career.
But week one, I was like, He needs to be fat.
You think Zion was on Ozimpic?
No, because you can't.
I think maybe.
But then would he lose muscle?
Athletes got different drugs.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Any other stories from Happy Valley?
You guys had the boys had a good weekend?
Talked to Brisolo on the phone today.
I wasn't expecting that in the Uber.
You just called me.
Talk NFL?
Well, he thought he was, yeah, he thought he was doing the thing that he does to you.
I was like, I'm out with Bitcat, though.
He's like, Oh.
The Patriots scored.
It was like right after
I was watching them run the pun return back, and he called me.
I was like, hello.
He's like, hey, what are you doing?
Yeah, because I don't know if I said this on, I think I said it to Chris Long Desi here.
Oh, you said it in the gambling cave.
Yeah, week one at 11.59 Central Time, Rousseau called me and I picked up.
And I felt like such a fucking idiot because he just goes, what are you doing right now?
I was like, God fucking damn it.
He got me.
So he tried to do that to you?
Yeah.
And you were like, I missed the flight.
Yeah, I was like, I'm in an Uber to Pittsburgh.
I guess we'll talk college football on Wednesday, but James Franklin can't win the big one.
Nope.
We're going to get a new game.
Drew Aller just loves ending games with interceptions.
We've got to get a clock.
Are you all the way out on Drew?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shout out the guy.
Let me find who sent it to me.
It was a great idea.
This is actually why Max started calling me a fucker, which is a hilarious insult.
Shout out John Collins, Collins 4820.
He said, we need a clock,
big game for Penn State, where we think they'll win it this time.
So we need a clock that just basically is a countdown to their game against Ohio State.
And then whatever big games after that, and after that, and after that,
they can't win the big one.
It's the same game every year.
Same exact game.
It's gotten to the point where it's no longer a good thing to have where your team is dominant outside of the big ones.
Yeah.
They should have gone for two.
You've been right there for two.
They should have gone for two.
It was actually funny because when we were on Saturday night, it was basically we were just watching the same thing that we've watched every time between James Franklin not being able to win a big one and Kirby Smart not being able to beat Alabama.
Yeah.
It was basically just like, we've seen both of these games a million times.
Yeah, as a flashback.
Also, can we just go ahead and delete the podcast where we said Alabama was completely dead?
That the
program was ruined.
That was Brandon Walker.
We did Brandon Walker light.
Yeah, although I had come around on,
I watched back some of that Florida State game and I was like, they didn't get beat like we thought.
Oh, they got.
But they got shoved around.
They did, but they were down seven with like
in the fourth quarter, and they got a bad penalty that kind of ended the game.
You know what?
I'm actually not going to give up on that take that Alabama's dead.
Well, you can't now because Alabama always beats Georgia.
Yeah.
Right, Memes?
Yeah, we got their number.
Except in that national championship.
Except in the national championship, but then also Alabama beat Georgia in the national championship.
Yeah.
Memes, he should have kicked the field goal there, but that's whatever.
Yeah.
Score prediction for tomorrow night Jets Dolphins.
I don't know.
I'm pretty positive.
Oh, fuck
you.
How'd you fall for that?
I don't know.
Who misses a flight at 35?
Not me.
Are you sick?
Because you're not 35?
Yeah.
But you will.
No.
Yeah, you will.
That's not the last flight you miss.
No.
That man.
That man hasn't shown up yet.
You're either a
flight guy or you're not.
You act like you've never fucking.
I've never missed a a flight.
Yeah, you didn't.
When?
Pennsylvania.
What?
Oh.
Oh.
It's on Gritwood.
Yeah, yeah.
I actually made that flight after.
Good point, Hank.
New York.
I'm definitely.
No, I've never missed a flight.
I'm definitely going to miss some flight at some point.
I'm playing with house money, so I'm not going to judge Hank at all.
And
I was nit faced.
You were nit faced.
It just happens.
Yeah, you were balls deep in the beeve last night.
Yeah.
Just going crazy for it.
Were you tailgating with Max's friends after Max left?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
But then again, I ended up leaving after.
Yeah, head-butting a tree.
The tailgating post-loss has got to be like the all-time bad vibes tailgating.
But I do think that you got...
The tailgate after the game is a great move.
It is.
Yeah.
But after a bad loss like that, it's just.
You've got to kill a little bit of time, hope some of the traffic goes down.
Yeah, you just sit around and you just like, oh, warm up with me.
Hey, we just talked about how bad.
I mean, it's just, you know, you vent a little bit.
Yeah.
All right.
You have three?
Yep.
33.
Oh, cool.
I have a 35 because once I said that, it popped up on that TV.
Wait, what is your score prediction?
I don't know.
I'm pretty positively negative right now, so I'm going to say loss.
But give us a score prediction.
35, 33.
Oh, shit.
If you give up 35
to Tua,
fire Aaron Glenn.
No, Mike McDaniel's still a good offensive mind.
Yeah, okay.
They still have weapons.
They're not.
They have talent on their team.
Yeah.
I'll go
61.
I'll go.
Yep, Zach.
Yep.
Zach, what do you got?
I'll go 25.
99, Pook.
19.
19 Jack 76 76 Shane I'll go 22
what was yours Max
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