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Speaker 1 We're going to talk the doubleheader from hell, Monday Night Football. We're going to talk some World Series.
We are set. The Toronto Blue Jays have made it to the World Series.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, October 22nd, and the Toronto Blue Jays are in the World Series.

Speaker 1 It was quite a scene in Canada on Monday night. What a game seven that was, PFT.
George Springer.

Speaker 4 George Springer does it again. Maybe the most clutch postseason hitter of the last, what, 15 years?

Speaker 1 Third all time in postseason home runs now, which is pretty crazy. That will be a trivia fact that you don't get right in 20 years.

Speaker 4 Can I guess? Yeah. Can I guess the other two? Yeah.
One's got to be Manny.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All-time home runs.

Speaker 4 In postseason?

Speaker 8 I think the stat was go-ahead.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was go-ahead home runs.

Speaker 4 Is it? Or is it most career

Speaker 1 post-season home runs? Manny is correct, number one.

Speaker 1 Good call, PFT.

Speaker 8 But that is not the stat.

Speaker 1 Jose Al Tuve is second.

Speaker 1 Kyle Schwerber is tied for third, and George Springer's tied for third. Now he's third.
Yeah. So I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 9 Yeah, insanely.

Speaker 1 Most career postseason home runs. George Springer hit his 24th home run, and boy, did it matter.

Speaker 4 And he did it after getting absolutely drilled in the kneecap with a fastball just a few days before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so where do you land? I saw there was a lot of karma because Mariners fans apparently jeered and booed George Springer when he got drilled in the kneecap and looked like he was injured.

Speaker 1 There were then Mariners fans being like, we were doing it because of his link to the Astros, not because we were rooting for his injury. I have no problem with all of it.
Like, who cares?

Speaker 4 Yeah, if he was, like, severely injured, then you would have to like apologize for booing him. Yes.
With the fact that it was just really, really painful. And then he ended your season.

Speaker 4 And then he ended your season. Hey, that's sports, baby.
Yeah. That's why we watch.
But yeah, the Blue Jays, they're a very funny.

Speaker 1 Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 4 Well, so that's the thing is at the games, they chant, Let's Go Blue Jays. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, they're Canadian. They're allowed to do that.

Speaker 4 I'm going to continue to say Toronto Blue Jays. I'm not going to be buying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you said Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 4 Or just Blue Jays. Yeah, just Blue Jays.
I'm not going to be bullied by some. It was a one guy.

Speaker 1 It was one guy. Yeah.
Yeah, fuck that guy.

Speaker 4 Get your own podcast, buddy. You can say whatever you want.

Speaker 4 But the Blue Jays are, yeah, they're a fun team. They've got, obviously, like.
Are you talking about the Toronto Jays? I'm talking about the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know them as the Toronto Jays.

Speaker 4 The Blue Jays.

Speaker 4 They've got some very fun players. We should be excited about that.
The pitching probably is going to be a mismatch in favor of the Dodgers in the series.

Speaker 4 But they've got some clutch dudes. They've got Springer.
They've got Vladdy.

Speaker 1 They got Max Scherzer.

Speaker 4 They got Max Scherzer, who is a fucking psychopath and will do anything that he possibly can to win. I'll be rooting for Mad Max.

Speaker 1 He will also tie the record for most

Speaker 1 teams played for in different teams played for in a World Series with four.

Speaker 4 With four. So

Speaker 1 Ronnie Smith.

Speaker 4 Or the Rangers, right? He pitched for the Rangers. Yeah, I forget about that.

Speaker 4 I feel like Max is a gnat for life, though. But they also have.

Speaker 1 Tigers fans are not going to be happy about that.

Speaker 4 I mean, he wanted to, he wanted to.

Speaker 1 I know, you're right.

Speaker 4 He's a great pitcher for the Nats.

Speaker 1 The Tigers having Verlander and Scherzer in their prime.

Speaker 4 Insane.

Speaker 4 And officially, Beau Bachette is coming back now. Yep.
Everyone thought, myself included, he would be back for the ALCS. He was not.

Speaker 4 But then he said after the game, he's coming back for the World Series. And if you don't know, Beau Bachette, I think he had the second most hits in baseball this year.
It's a big addition

Speaker 4 for the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 And the Toronto Jays get home field advantage. So that's, you know, listen, I'm not going to say it's not going to be like the Brewers.

Speaker 1 They're not going to, the Toronto Jays are not going to lay down like the Brewers did.

Speaker 4 You know what's crazy is that the Blue Jays are, I guess you could, this is a Blue Jays stat when you're looking at the gambling lines for the series, but under five and a half games for the World Series is plus money.

Speaker 4 It's plus 125. So everyone out there that's thinking that's a sweep or the Dodgers in five,

Speaker 4 you can make a pretty good return on that.

Speaker 1 I hate that bet just because when you have a World Series where you have no rooting interests, I just want it to go seven. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, I do, I also feel terrible for Mariners fans. Oh, it was, that was a tough night.
The vibes were so high.

Speaker 4 Uh, Cal Raleigh hitting that home run into their own bullpen and the bullpen catcher who caught that. It was his birthday.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, this just shows playoff baseball. It's like you have one bat.
It's not even a bad inning.

Speaker 1 It was like a bad, like two-hit bats, where it's just that's that's all it takes, and it's boom, your season's over. And they, 48 years, the Mariners have been a franchise.

Speaker 1 They have never been to the World Series. They were that close.
It's brutal.

Speaker 1 And it was even more brutal that the Seahawks were, well, the Seahawks were winning, but when they had that, there was like that one minute where they just started showing Mariners fans watching the game in Seattle and seeing that they lost.

Speaker 1 Well, there was suck.

Speaker 4 There was one exact moment, and it was right when Springer hit the home run. It was side by side.
Or, no, no, it was when they lost. Yeah.
Officially at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 Top of the ninth inning, two strikes. I was watching, you know, I had the multi-view going on, so I had

Speaker 4 the baseball in one, Monday Night Football on the other. And the ref in the football game went out to midfield and explained the fact that the Seahawks actually don't get safety.

Speaker 4 They don't get a touchdown. It's actually going to be a touchback, and the Texans will retain the ball at the exact time as J-Rod struck out.

Speaker 1 It was not, yeah, it was not great.

Speaker 1 I do feel dotted for Mariners fans, but it's also, it's tough because it was not like Mariners Yankees. It was

Speaker 1 the Toronto Blue Jays have not, sorry, the Toronto Jays have not been to the World Series since Joe Carter, since the back-to-back championships.

Speaker 1 And it is Canada's team. And

Speaker 1 I'll say this.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Dodgers are obviously favorites. The Dodgers are a super team.
The Dodgers look unstoppable.

Speaker 1 If there's one guy, like you, when you're going up against the Dodgers, you need one guy who's like, fuck them.

Speaker 1 I'm the man. And Vladdie is that guy.

Speaker 1 Think about this. Vladdy is so confident.
He showed up to game seven of the ALCS to punch a ticket to the World Series in an Austin Matthews, Toronto Maple Leafs jersey.

Speaker 1 That is the ballsiest thing you could possibly do. You are literally asking for the entire world to meme you to death if things don't go your way in game seven.

Speaker 4 Famous game seven success haver Austin Matthews.

Speaker 1 And the Maple Express.

Speaker 4 That'd be, yeah, if like Conor McDavid showed up to a Game 7 wearing a Jim Kelly jersey. Yeah.
That's the equivalent. That's what we're looking at.

Speaker 4 That's like if you won the 50-50 wearing a Pete Rose jersey. Yeah.
It's like...

Speaker 1 It'd be like if Conor McDavid showed up up 3-1 in a series with the Chris Paul jersey on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You can't do that. It's ballsy as fuck.
I do love, I love Laddie's big ass.

Speaker 1 And he's just, he's, he's, I mean, Max, you know, you're a baseball guy. Like, you need that one guy.
He's like, fuck him. Fuck him all.
He said it to the Yankees. He hated the Yankees.

Speaker 1 He's got that kind of aura swag. They're like, fuck it.
We're underdogs. Who cares? I think they got no shots.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 No, I love it.

Speaker 1 Now, Max, hold on. Explain, though.

Speaker 1 You've explained it before, but you're just rooting for the Phillies to be the only team to have had a chance against the Dodgers.

Speaker 11 I just don't think they have.

Speaker 11 The Dodgers are too good.

Speaker 11 They don't have the pitching.

Speaker 1 I mean, they don't have to be.

Speaker 11 Gossman would be their fifth starter.

Speaker 1 I know, I know. Gossman, you savage, Scherzer, you need to...
Guys just got to nut up. They got nut up.

Speaker 4 I mean, if you look back at big game pitchers, Max Scherzer is right up there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now he's old.
He's 40. He's old.

Speaker 4 He's the kind of guy that now he'll like.

Speaker 1 He had a good game, but and that's the thing.

Speaker 11 The Mariners lineup is good.

Speaker 1 The Dodgers lineup is also better. The Dodgers just have dudes everywhere.
Well, I mean, the Dodgers have

Speaker 1 the scariest part about the Dodgers is they have like three absolute studs, and then they have guys who are having like Mookie Betts is a stud, but he's having a down year, but he could be good at anything.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 No, they don't have to be a good one. Tommy Edmonds.
They have a great playoff. Yeah, he's having a great playoff.

Speaker 1 So, I'm just saying, like, they're, if you even just take out, like, if you're like, all right, if we can pitch around Shohei and Freddy, like, there's just guys everywhere. Yeah, there's 60.

Speaker 11 Kika Hernandez is just like a postseason leader.

Speaker 1 Tommy Edmonds going to hit a home run. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Max, Factor Fiction, you do hate, you hate the Blue Jays because of what Joe Carter did to you.

Speaker 11 I was dead.

Speaker 1 Actually, he's right. He was dead.
Yeah, you were dead.

Speaker 1 If you're not alive, you're dead. He was dead.
Yeah. You were unalive at the moment.

Speaker 4 You were pre-born.

Speaker 11 I mean, I guess I get mad watching that clip, but I can't

Speaker 1 really get mad.

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 you know, your dad got mad at the home run.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I was swimming around in his balls.

Speaker 1 My dad was for sure not happy with that. I like how, like, anything that happened before you were alive, just being like, I was dead for that.
Yeah, I was dead for that. I was dead.

Speaker 4 But Philly hates Toronto because of that.

Speaker 1 Sure, yeah. What, Max? Oh, I should have.
Sorry,

Speaker 1 we're 10 minutes into the show. Are people able to listen to this show right now?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Okay.
Well, I don't know. Should you be soul patched? No.

Speaker 4 No. Max took down the cloud last night.

Speaker 1 You didn't press the button.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 Explain it to the listeners.

Speaker 11 Zach was going to bring it up in Who's Back.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. So that's a nice tease.
Or hot seat cool throne. Okay.

Speaker 11 That's a nice tease.

Speaker 1 I'm still asleep. Should we.

Speaker 4 Well, first, did you see after the game, did you hear the scream, the primal scream from the Mariners Clubhouse? Oh, yeah, incredible.

Speaker 4 Can we play that? That was the most

Speaker 1 relatable.

Speaker 1 What are you supposed to do besides just screaming fuck at the top of your voice?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Were they interviewing Brian Wu?

Speaker 1 They were interviewing Brian Wu, who gave up the big home run to George Springer, which was, yeah. And you just

Speaker 4 hear this yell in the background.

Speaker 1 There's nothing like playoff baseball

Speaker 1 crowds.

Speaker 4 Here, listen to this.

Speaker 4 Having gone this further than any other team in franchise history.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's an awesome scream.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 the Toronto Jays locker room. I've never seen a locker room go quicker into just a full-on nightclub.
It was insane in there. Yeah, they party.
Like lasers and smoke and just looked good.

Speaker 4 You think we're going to get a Mares bet for this series?

Speaker 4 Kendrick Lamar and Drake?

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot about that. Nice storyline.

Speaker 4 Big storyline in this one.

Speaker 1 Huge storyline. I like that.
They should go to a game together.

Speaker 4 That'd be fun. That would be cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look at that. Look at the locker room.
That's a straight-up club.

Speaker 11 That can't be the locker room.

Speaker 1 That's the locker room.

Speaker 11 That legitimately looks like a club.

Speaker 1 No, that's what I'm saying. That's the biggest locker room ever.

Speaker 1 It was instant, too.

Speaker 1 Hang on. Oh,

Speaker 1 it's insane. Yeah, there's like a disco ball in there.
There's lights. There's a fish concert.
How's a full light show?

Speaker 4 I'm just thinking about Drake. How close is Dodger Stadium to an elementary school? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Might.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can't. That's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 All right. Should we talk about Monday Night Football? The doubleheader from hell? Because it was like

Speaker 1 the first game, the Lions in the Bucks. Lions are just, that was the most Dan Campbell

Speaker 1 off a loss. Like, we're still the best.
We're going to shove it down your throat. But the game was so frustrating because it felt like it wanted to be like a

Speaker 1 track meet shootout that just never broke out.

Speaker 4 It also felt like Baker, at some point, Baker was going to do his fourth quarter thing and bring him back, but he didn't have his best night last night. He was so off.
He was off.

Speaker 4 Also, the Lions' defense was, they were, they were getting after him. Yes.
like Hutchinson was getting after him and hitting him. Yep.
And I feel like the Lions are officially back, back, back.

Speaker 1 But they're never, if they lose a game, just bet on him the next week. Yeah, that's just what they do.

Speaker 4 Dan Campbell's going to be just locking him in a cage, poking him with a stick all week, getting him fired up, getting him angry, getting him violent. And it was, yeah, it was a

Speaker 4 decisive victory.

Speaker 1 Hell of a monra, thank you. Finally scoring.

Speaker 1 First touchdown.

Speaker 1 But the Lions, so I was thinking about this. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 Baker had a very off night. It's okay to say that.

Speaker 1 He looked bad.

Speaker 1 You could tell almost instantly he was airmailing guys. He was missing wide open receivers.
I feel like this does happen once or twice to everyone, even the best quarterbacks in a given season.

Speaker 1 And I'm not worried about the Bucs overall, although broken clavicle for Mike Evans sucks. He just can't stay on the field this year.

Speaker 4 That was tough. I also thought Amon Ra had maybe the coolest play of the night.

Speaker 4 And it was on one of his teammates' coolest coolest plays of the night when Jameer Gibbs got that first down on that option pitch that they ran, like almost a jet sweep or a reverse to

Speaker 4 Amon Ra, who then pitched it to Jameer Gibbs.

Speaker 4 Jameer Gibbs gets hit behind the line of scrimmage twice, and Amon Ra gets behind him

Speaker 4 and just grabs him and dives and shoves him forward past the first down line. It was awesome to watch.
Watch this.

Speaker 1 It was funny, too, because Troy Aikman was just like, that's all Amon Ra. It's like, well, or sorry, that's all Jameer Gibbs.
Like, well, Amon Ra was kind of

Speaker 1 helping him there.

Speaker 1 I have a take.

Speaker 1 Why don't we, or here's, yeah, it was Amon Ra just getting him the extra yards. And yeah, Jameer Gibbs is so fast.

Speaker 1 I have a take. Why are we never saying,

Speaker 1 and I'll fix this going forward,

Speaker 1 Jameer Gibbs is the best running back in football? Because I think he is.

Speaker 4 He could be, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think that he gets obviously dinged for having to split carries with David Montgomery.

Speaker 1 But the best running back in football is the answer is usually Christian McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley or Jonathan Taylor. I think it's Jameer Gibbs.
He has played 39 regular season games.

Speaker 1 He's averaging 100 yards from scrimmage and a touchdown in 39 games. That's like, so he has 3,900 yards and 38 touchdowns in 39 games.
He is so fucking good.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to start saying that he's the best running back in football. I'm going to put more respect on his name.

Speaker 1 I think it is partially because, you know, his first two years, he split a lot of carries with Dave Montgomery.

Speaker 1 Now it feels like they're like, all right, he is, Dave Montgomery, maybe not getting as many carries because Jameer Gibbs, like, that's one of the fastest I've ever seen someone on a football field.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and they laughed at the Lions on draft night. Dude.

Speaker 1 Laughed at him. Great.
The whole entire

Speaker 1 all the nerds and analytics were like, hey, you don't build your team out of running backs and linebackers. Guess what? The Lions did and it works.

Speaker 4 Well, they also have a great offensive line, but Jameer Gibbs is, yeah, he's definitely, I'd say he's without a doubt top top three running back in the NFL rank.

Speaker 1 I'm saying best right now this season. By the way, Panay Sewell also going.
I wish he had that.

Speaker 8 I wish that was so funny. I wish he had gotten that block because he was running so fast.

Speaker 1 So fast.

Speaker 1 He was running too fast. Yeah.
He overran himself.

Speaker 8 He couldn't slow down to make a block.

Speaker 1 His body went too fast.

Speaker 8 He was just like, I think he was just really happy. He was running fast.

Speaker 9 He's just opening free.

Speaker 1 He forgot to block. Yeah,

Speaker 4 they need to get the ball in Panay Sewell's hands more this season. I want to see him carrying the ball.
I want to see him on a screen pass. I want to see him catching a lateral.

Speaker 4 I want to see that man in the open field with the ball in his hand just running people over.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out John Hussey. A lot of John Hussey.

Speaker 4 A lot of John Hussey. Now, okay.
So

Speaker 4 the Lions were the better team last night.

Speaker 1 Yes. And Baker was off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they deserved to win. They deserved to blow up the ball.
I guess you could call it a blowout, but it was decisive. They deserve that.
The better team.

Speaker 4 There was that fourth down

Speaker 4 challenge that turned into maybe was it really even a challenge? Was it Sky Judge? Was it Roger Goodell on a mouthpiece from New York telling them to overturn the call?

Speaker 4 There is something weird that happened during that call. I don't know if you heard John Hussey's explanation behind it, but I've never heard a ref talk like that before.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He came out after he went under the hood for a second time, and he said, after a second look, he didn't say after further review. Every other ref I've ever heard has said after further review.

Speaker 4 He said, after a second look, we gave it a second look, and then he he announced what it was. And he said, and also, we're giving Detroit back its challenge, and we're giving Detroit back its timeout.

Speaker 4 Like, he was almost playing to the crowd a little bit.

Speaker 4 Every other ref I've ever heard, they do like the passive language. They're like, Detroit will not be charged with a second challenge.
Detroit will not be charged with timeout.

Speaker 4 But they're like, no, we're going to give it back to him. Yeah.
It was like, it was a staggeringly informal way of announcing that.

Speaker 4 And it just seemed like somebody might have put that in John Hussey's ear.

Speaker 1 That's just Hussey time, baby. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was really strange the way it was presented.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Lions deserved one from the control center.

Speaker 4 After the Jared Goff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after the Jared Goff.

Speaker 1 By the way, to the point of the Lions building the team, the way they built the team, Jack Campbell, which also was laughed about, since tackle data began being tracked in 1999, Lions linebacker Jack Campbell is Detroit's first player to log at least seven tackles in each of his first seven games of a season.

Speaker 1 He's pretty good. That defense, when they get healthy,

Speaker 1 that's a good defense. Yeah.
That's a really good defense. Also, Jameer Gibbs, when he was asked about his juke, he said, I don't call it nothing.
That's just me watching YouTube and shit.

Speaker 1 I don't really know what that means, but it sounds cool.

Speaker 4 We got to watch more YouTube.

Speaker 1 We got to watch YouTube and shit.

Speaker 1 All right, second game.

Speaker 1 I'm so done with the Texans.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 both teams tried to give this game away. The Texans, I don't know if they practice plays on offense.
I don't know if they have a playbook. If it's

Speaker 1 run the ball up the middle.

Speaker 4 And then if it's a passing play, it's just like, okay, whoever's on the outside, just try to get open. I'll hit you downfield.
Their offense was so frustrating to watch.

Speaker 1 So frustrating. And it was the combo of frustrating to watch and also the late game.
So you had to ask yourself, am I going to do this

Speaker 1 for another half? And then

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 fumble

Speaker 1 was a strip sack in the end zone for the Seahawks to get it back to, or sorry, for the Texans to get it back to a one-score game, Will Anderson. You're like, I was right about to turn off the TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then it happened.
I was like, but God fucking damn it, the Texans. And they kept

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 9 That game was the ultimate, like, I want to just turn this game off.

Speaker 8 Give me a reason to. And they just wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Will Anderson kept us all awake.

Speaker 4 It's the entire Texans' defense. The Texans' defense made it impossible to stop the game because

Speaker 4 they kept forcing turnovers. And that defense is fucking incredible.

Speaker 4 it's so good it's so good it's just wasted on on whatever the i mean it's a lack of weapons obviously the offensive line stinks cj stroud also he doesn't look great no he doesn't miss his guys until like late in the fourth quarter he was stuck at like 130 yards passing he wasn't really doing much there was no creativity also in the offense the the offensive coordinator for the texans calls plays like he hates his own team he's like he'll do the thing where uh if you can't get a yard we don't deserve to win this game yeah so let's just run the ball up the middle and prove we can get a yard.

Speaker 4 You're not going to get a yard with that offensive line against the Seahawks defensive line. And the Seahawks defense is also like world-class.
The Seahawks defense is really good.

Speaker 4 I don't think, I thought Sam Darnold actually played pretty well. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And with JSN, it feels like that's the thing that can take the Seahawks to the next level. Right now, JSN is probably having the best season of any wide receiver.

Speaker 1 I was going to say that was my other hot take. Jameer Gibbs is the best running back.

Speaker 1 Jackson Smith and Jigba is the best wide receiver this year.

Speaker 4 He's having the best year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. I know that the the answer would be Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and CD.

Speaker 4 I might even put Puka.

Speaker 1 Puka, but he's tied for

Speaker 1 yards. He's tied for fifth in receptions.

Speaker 1 I think he's third in receptions of all wide receivers.

Speaker 1 And he is

Speaker 1 four touchdowns on the season. He's three games in a row over 100 yards.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Credit to the Seahawks, too, for...

Speaker 1 saying, hey, we can trade DK. Yeah.
You know, we have a dude here who can be a true number one and everything can fill in after him.

Speaker 4 And he was like in the slot more last year, right? And so now they're moving him out and he's even better out there.

Speaker 4 He's had over 79 and a half receiving yards in every game this season, except for one, except for Thursday night when he had 79 yards. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but the uh the Seahawks offense, they continue to be fun to watch because they take so many shots downfield.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm buying the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 They just, they bomb it. And

Speaker 4 the funny thing to me is their running game because you never know who's going to look like their number one back on any given night.

Speaker 4 Like last night, I thought Charbonnet looked stronger, more explosive. And then every other night, I feel like I'm watching Walker being like, they need to give this guy the ball more.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I have four teams that I put in the Texans category of, in theory, I like them, but in actuality, I'm sick of their shit. And it's the Texans, it's the Jaguars, it's the Chargers, and the Falcons.

Speaker 1 Those four teams, in theory,

Speaker 1 theoretically, I like them. Yeah, but they're offense.
But then they play, and

Speaker 1 I get so frustrated watching them play.

Speaker 4 The offense was bad last year, too.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 4 C.J. Stroud, he's,

Speaker 4 I think, second team, all bad body language.

Speaker 1 But still,

Speaker 1 they won a playoff game last year. They did.

Speaker 4 Right? That defense did. I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, CJ Stroud was pretty good in that game, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was pretty good. But, I mean, it was, what, Herbert threw

Speaker 9 four picks, I think. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was not great. Yeah, it was not his best game.

Speaker 4 C.J. Stroud seems really, really bummed out.
He seems just as bummed out playing for the Texans as

Speaker 4 we seem watching the Texans.

Speaker 1 Are we done with Monday Night Doubleheaders? Is that it? Officially, hopefully, I hope so.

Speaker 8 It's got to be. It's weeks to seven.

Speaker 4 Although I do like the back-to-back games, I just don't like them.

Speaker 4 It felt like this was later.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? I don't know. It felt like this.

Speaker 8 I'm with you.

Speaker 4 I don't know if it started at the same time, but it ended at like 12.30 and the game just dragged on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did. They've done it back and forth.

Speaker 1 When the Bears played the Commanders, that was a staggered start.

Speaker 8 They did two that were staggered, two that were back-to-back.

Speaker 1 They're probably just testing.

Speaker 8 But I think maybe it was just because the first one was Chargers-Raiders, and that just feels like a later game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That does feel like that.

Speaker 8 Like the Texans playing late night didn't really feel like they were supposed to play that late.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's actually a really good point that I agree with.

Speaker 1 Because the Texans are on a late night team.

Speaker 8 Chargers, Raiders, it's like they should be playing at 10 o'clock every time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if this was Raiders, Seahawks, it would have made perfect sense. Yeah.
Oh, man, we have a Raiders Monday night game.

Speaker 8 Oh, Commanders, Chiefs.

Speaker 1 We have a Panthers Monday night game.

Speaker 8 That's going to be scenes, PFG.

Speaker 4 Absolute scenes in Arrowhead.

Speaker 1 Oh, we have a Cardinals Monday night game.

Speaker 8 Cardinals, Cowboys, gross.

Speaker 1 We have some gross Monday night games.

Speaker 8 Eagles, Packers.

Speaker 1 They can flex some of these. Oh, no.
We have a Dolphins Monday night game.

Speaker 4 I think that's flexible, isn't it?

Speaker 1 They have to flex it. 15.

Speaker 1 Flex it now.

Speaker 4 Do it right now. Imagine this.
It's December 15th. It's like a little snowy, a little sleety outside, and you've got Tua going into Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 How does that end?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Not good.
Not good. Not good for any picks.

Speaker 1 Tua

Speaker 1 is still going to be the quarterback for the Dolphins. Mike McDaniel did say Tua will be his starting quarterback this week, and his expectation is that they will not throw 10 picks.

Speaker 4 Okay, that's good.

Speaker 1 So that's a good expectation.

Speaker 4 That's good. Hey, under promise, over-deliver.
If he throws nine picks, hey, I told you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do we have anything else to clean up? I don't really.

Speaker 8 Are you going Monday?

Speaker 4 I think I'm going to have to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's Monday night. Your team needs you.
You never know. I'm not going to back down.
Actually, you know what? I might just flip my mentality. I might put on my hank hat for a second.

Speaker 4 We're talking about an October football game. Like, wake me up when it's playoff time.
This team doesn't, we don't, we don't even

Speaker 4 take things seriously until the playoffs.

Speaker 4 We're a playoff team, okay? That's the championship mentality.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's what Hank criticized before last year was not understanding how to be a winner. Right.
Like, who cares about October?

Speaker 4 How many teams have started off three and three, four and four, three and four, and then gone on and had playoff success? A lot. It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 PFT, I had a question for you about

Speaker 1 Magic Johnson. Does it suck? I have alerts on for him.
Yes, and him just dropping random commanders' tweets

Speaker 1 because last on Sunday night, he dropped one at one in the morning. And it just was for my commanders, what a difference a year makes.

Speaker 1 We had a very few injuries last season, but a lot so far this season.

Speaker 1 That was the whole tweet.

Speaker 4 Facts. That's what Magic Johnson said.

Speaker 1 It would piss me off getting that random alert at one in the morning.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I also have had Magic Johnson notifications on for quite some time to stay. current on all the breaking news 24 hours later.

Speaker 4 And yeah, last year it was great where randomly on like a Tuesday morning, he would tweet out, like, wow, what a great game by my commanders against the Tennessee Titans last week.

Speaker 4 And then he'd just like list two stats from the game.

Speaker 4 It's not as fun this year when it's negative news, but he's right. I mean, there's just a ton of injuries.

Speaker 4 But you know what? Screw it.

Speaker 4 This is championship DNA. All right.

Speaker 4 These are the games you have to surprise people and win. You go into Arrowhead.
The Chiefs look like they're unbeatable. The spread is, what, 10.5 points? 9.5? I don't know where it's at right now.

Speaker 4 This is a game that you have to win.

Speaker 1 What is it on DraftKings?

Speaker 11 Commanders currently have an 11% chance to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 11%, yep.

Speaker 1 That's fine.

Speaker 8 It's going to be a lot higher after you go into Arrowhead and win. Yeah, statement game.

Speaker 4 Statement game. Passing of the torch.

Speaker 1 Will you be going money line on the Commanders?

Speaker 1 That was to Hank.

Speaker 1 I assume you don't need to because you're rooting for the Commanders very hard. Plus 4.55.
Hank, where are you going to get in this hole? Yeah, I will.

Speaker 8 I love Baker, but I'm now on

Speaker 8 betting on outcomes that help Drake May win the MVP. Like last night I was on Baker, interception, under yards, team total under.

Speaker 1 And it's now.

Speaker 8 Now we got Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in the crosshairs.

Speaker 1 Did you bet Drake May to win the MVP? Yeah. Okay, I was going to say that's probably easier way to do that than having to follow along.

Speaker 8 Well, no, yeah, I bet it.

Speaker 1 Now Now I'm trying to will it's trying to will it to the willing to.

Speaker 4 All right, here's a fun little thing that I did.

Speaker 8 He jumped to third last night.

Speaker 4 Last Tuesday, October 14th.

Speaker 1 He's fourth.

Speaker 4 I put a bet on the Commander's Money line in Arrowhead on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Great line value.

Speaker 4 Incredible line value. It's plus 205, the bet that I got.
I think they're now plus 800. They're plus 450.
Okay, plus 450. Yeah.
So, yes, I do have a bet on Commander's Money line for Monday night.

Speaker 1 Hank is now offended by draft games. Yeah.
That Baker is third and Drake May is fourth. That is offensive.
It's offensive to you.

Speaker 4 I mean, you can make money off that though, Hank. True.

Speaker 1 You got it, Hank.

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Speaker 10 Hank, hot seat cool throw.

Speaker 12 My hot seat,

Speaker 12 I just can't.

Speaker 8 I couldn't help myself but to bring up this story because it's just so fake. Even though it's like Hollywood gossipy love story, whatever, page six.

Speaker 1 Go on.

Speaker 1 Dua Lipa. Uh-huh.

Speaker 8 You're familiar. Dewey.
It's dating this guy, Callum Turner, who I don't really know, but whatever.

Speaker 8 Sounds like a giant guy.

Speaker 4 Callum sounds like a hot guy name.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Yeah, no, he's hot guy. She's hot.
It's a hot couple.

Speaker 1 They're hot.

Speaker 8 No beef, but

Speaker 8 he revealed to the Sunday Times, fiancé, so I guess fiancé.

Speaker 8 He revealed that they were reading the same book the night they first met. We sat next to each other on a plane.

Speaker 1 Huh.

Speaker 8 Realized we were reading the same book, which is crazy. It's called Trust by Hernandez.
I had just finished the first chapter.

Speaker 8 I told her, and she looked at me and said, I just finished the first chapter, too. And I said, so we're on the same page.

Speaker 1 That's so gross. All right.

Speaker 4 You think it's fake?

Speaker 1 Do you think he set it up?

Speaker 4 That's what I'm thinking, big cat.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking my man Callum did some digging behind the scenes, found out what book she was reading, bought that same book maybe at the airport bookstore, and then brought it onto the plane so they'll have something to talk about.

Speaker 1 He's an English actor. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. With an English accent saying, oh, we're on the same page.
Oh, so we're on the same page.

Speaker 1 So we're on the same page.

Speaker 4 I'm just trying to be hot. That's three.

Speaker 1 That's yeah, puddles.

Speaker 9 It's too, yeah. You got her.

Speaker 8 It's too much. Too much.
But no, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 You don't love, you don't love love?

Speaker 8 I love love. I just, this one I still couldn't love.
I couldn't. And it's who cares? It's Hollywood.

Speaker 4 He couldn't imagine himself bonding with a woman over a book.

Speaker 8 That's the thing. On a plane.
Yeah. Fakest plane book story, love story of all time.

Speaker 1 I can't think of one.

Speaker 8 My cool throne

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 8 the Utah Hockey.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 They have a hockey team.

Speaker 1 The Mammoth. They have had one.

Speaker 4 They had one last year. The Mammoths, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, yes.

Speaker 4 The Mammoth. Did it take a while to get

Speaker 1 to you, the news? Yeah.

Speaker 8 I knew they had a hockey team. I didn't know it was the Mammoth.
I thought they might have changed.

Speaker 1 The Mammoth is this year. Last year.
That's the Utah hockey club.

Speaker 8 That's what I thought. That's where I got confused.

Speaker 8 I saw the Sharks because the Sharks haven't won, and the coach said he was going to give up his kid to get a win, which is tough, like five games in the season.

Speaker 1 But it's tough for the kid. He's basically saying he hates his kid.

Speaker 8 But then it was like they lost to the Utah Mammoth, and I was confused because

Speaker 8 I didn't know that was their mascot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. So cool.

Speaker 4 That was a cool throwing knowing the Utah mascot.

Speaker 8 Yeah, cool throwing for you guys. I thought that was going to be a reveal.

Speaker 1 You thought you were going to reveal that to us? They did a big reveal two weeks ago. You revealed it to me, Hank.

Speaker 11 I had no idea.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Zero Cliff. Well, you also didn't know that there was a London game until like midnight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes he misses.

Speaker 4 I do like the logo, though. The logo is metal as fuck.

Speaker 8 It's way better than the hockey club. Yes.

Speaker 1 And he broke out of a big ice block.

Speaker 4 The mammoth. I like that.
I like when they do mascot origin stories and they show like the birth of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Dinger.

Speaker 4 Dinger, or when they had the Robo-Duck from Oregon pop out of the show. Yep.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mammoth.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Mammoth. Shout out to to Mammoth.

Speaker 1 We should do that as a weekly segment, the big reveal. Just something that we can

Speaker 1 try to stun each other with something that has been out for a while.

Speaker 8 I mean, you guys are acting like I'm sure there's a lot of other listeners that did not know that the Utah Hockey Club was out of the way.

Speaker 4 I think that's fair. That's fair, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I just saw the video when it came out.

Speaker 1 If I hadn't, I'd be with you.

Speaker 11 I bet there's listeners that didn't even know the hockey season started yet.

Speaker 1 I bet there are listeners that are shocked that they're listening right now because Max finally pressed the button.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Me just loving this.

Speaker 8 No, this logo is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 8 The mountains inside of the head.

Speaker 4 NHL has been on a heater with new logos. Like the Kraken, I'm all on board for that.

Speaker 4 Mammoth.

Speaker 4 Things are getting better.

Speaker 1 Tusky. Tusky is his name.

Speaker 8 Tusky is the mascot.

Speaker 1 Let's play fleet with Mac Tusk. Love that.

Speaker 4 PFT.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is complaining about the refs. Yeah.
Because we actually had a ref in the NFL save a man's life last night. JSN was under attack on the bench.

Speaker 4 And then NFL official, he used to play actually in the league.

Speaker 4 Nate Jones was, I think he was a side judge, sprinted over, weaved his way through the mosh pit, and then threw himself onto JSN like a live grenade.

Speaker 4 He actually did become that meme of the soldier that's protecting the person, the baby, the sleeping baby.

Speaker 4 And he shoved JSN's face into his titties, gave him a little motorboat, a little lap dance on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 I wish that it had happened to one of the league darlings.

Speaker 4 If this had happened to Patrick Mahomes and you have a ref that's hugging him, that would have been such a good thing that we could just always refer to in the future. But shout out to this guy.

Speaker 4 Put his life on the line.

Speaker 4 So we should be saying his name every time we talk about, what's his name, John Hussey? John Hussey. Furvie John Hussey, there's

Speaker 4 10 Nate Jones out there that are willing to die to protect a player in the NFL. So credit to him.
Strictly facts. It was great.

Speaker 4 And then my cool throne is sports rivalries, specifically the Boston-New York sports rivalry. It's back on, Hank.

Speaker 4 It's back on.

Speaker 4 There was a report that came out yesterday that, well, there's two sides to it. The Knicks tried to hire Joe Missoula last year.

Speaker 4 You remember when the Knicks were doing their thing where they just asked other teams if they could have their head coaches? And they all said no. And they all said no?

Speaker 4 They really tried to get Joe Missoula. And then the Celtics were like, no.
And also, here's a new contract, Joe Missoula. So we're keeping you around.

Speaker 4 Now, if

Speaker 4 James Dolan was, if he was smart, I would say that he's trying to get other teams to just have to pay their head coaches more and driving the price up.

Speaker 4 I think that was completely unintentional on his part. But how funny would that have been if the Knicks had hired Joe Missoula from you? Memes, that would have been pretty funny, huh?

Speaker 1 That would have been incredible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you tried. And now the Celtics are firing back because the Celtics had Thibodeau at practice this summer working with the team on defense doing like film breakdowns.

Speaker 1 I think it was like this week.

Speaker 4 It was this week. I think it was yesterday.
They were doing film breakdowns. I know the story came out yesterday, but he was doing like, yeah, defensive coach, like actually coaching the Celtics.

Speaker 8 He went through the film of the Eastern, like the playoff series and broke down how the how they won.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He loves ball so much. He's got to be around ball.

Speaker 4 They probably just asked him if he like wanted to show up and watch a practice, just like, you know, be around other coaches.

Speaker 4 And he probably came prepared with film and nuffs and a PowerPoint that he would show each player.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, this is

Speaker 4 good for the rivalry. Good for the sport.

Speaker 1 That is good for the sport. Great for the sport.

Speaker 8 You say Missoula said

Speaker 8 he would take

Speaker 8 Jason Brown down to the death.

Speaker 1 He would take Jason.

Speaker 8 They said, who would win in a fight? Yeah. Jalen Brown.
Jalen Brown was like, I would win in a fight. Missoula said, I would win in a fight.

Speaker 8 And Missoula said, like, if I'm going to death, you're coming with me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 4 But, like, right now, with the Achilles and everything, yeah, I got Missoula.

Speaker 8 No, it's Jalen Brown.

Speaker 1 Or Jalen Brown. Oh, that one.

Speaker 1 I think it would be a double kill. I think I'd take Missoula still.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the type of guy who take Missoula over anyone. He wants to be in a fight.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And wrestling. Guys that can wrestle can Missoula versus Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Missoula.

Speaker 11 Harbaugh's fucking old.

Speaker 1 Missoula versus Dan Campbell. Oh, shit.
Missoula. Oh, Dan Campbell.
Oh, come on.

Speaker 8 Missoula is like the type of guy to know your pressure points. Dan Campbell can tap you in a place that you don't even know hurts, and then you're just dead.

Speaker 4 Now you're getting Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 I think he'd bite his knees.

Speaker 1 Literally. Missoula.
Okay. My hot seats, I have

Speaker 1 two.

Speaker 1 I got to remember what my second one was. Oh, LeBron.
First one.

Speaker 1 Did you want to talk about LeBron?

Speaker 8 Russell Westberg.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could talk about it.

Speaker 8 Hilarious. I thought it was.
What was the exact quote? I thought it was NBA Sentinel.

Speaker 1 I did too. And then I saw it on the athletic.

Speaker 1 Russell Westbrook said that he was

Speaker 8 his fake shit.

Speaker 8 Did you see the Will Smith? Like, they had Will Smith come in.

Speaker 8 And, well, it was like they were doing a team meeting. LeBron and Anthony Davis got out and left.
They got up and left. Russell Westbrook went to leave.
Pat Bev was like, you got to stay.

Speaker 8 Like, those guys won a championship. You didn't.
Like, you got to stay. Then they started fighting.

Speaker 1 Pat Bev and Russ. Yeah.

Speaker 8 About that. They started fighting.

Speaker 8 Ham came back with Anthony Davis and LeBron. Then Will Smith came in to do like some type of speech.
The actor.

Speaker 6 The actor.

Speaker 8 Supposed to be 30-minute QA. LeBron asked question after question after question after question.
And it went on for like an hour.

Speaker 1 So he just had a conversation with Will Smith in front of everyone.

Speaker 8 And Russell Westbrook was fed up. There's a hilarious picture of the team with Will Smith after Russell Westbrook is not smiling at all.
And that's when he's like, I can't do this fake shit.

Speaker 8 I hate that fake shit.

Speaker 1 I just can't do it. LeBron did a very funny report.

Speaker 4 He did a podcast with Will Smith in the locker room in front of all his teammates. Yeah.

Speaker 8 It was like, let's do a Q ⁇ A, everyone. And then it was just LeBron, like, question, LeBron, question, LeBron, question.
And like, I guess he was just like doing like movie quotes and shit.

Speaker 4 He's like looking around the room. Wait, no, no other questions? Well, if you guys aren't going to take advantage of this great opportunity, I'm going to.

Speaker 1 That is so funny.

Speaker 4 I think LeBron might be a Scientologist. I love that.

Speaker 4 I think he might be so deep into Hollywood right now that he's just,

Speaker 4 he's getting his thetans checked or whatever.

Speaker 1 He's ascending to the ninth level you sound like you've been sitting next to Jerry for a little bit no Scientology Scientology is a real thing man uh it is yeah let Russ be Russ I love Russ his stock is all the way up I heard Pat Bev was like

Speaker 4 Russ you haven't won a championship you do not deserve to fly first class

Speaker 4 and then Russ flipped out on him and just went nuclear yeah Fuck that.

Speaker 1 I'm on the first class list.

Speaker 4 Wrote a blog about him and everything. Four plays on it?

Speaker 1 I'm on it.

Speaker 1 Okay, my hot seat. One is, I'll keep this brief, Wisconsin football, just because they're the worst team in college football, power for college football.
It's an absolute joke what's happened to

Speaker 1 them. They haven't scored a touchdown in two games.

Speaker 1 We're losing in completely non-competitive ways. We do have the hardest schedule in the country.

Speaker 9 What was that Netcraft you tweeted?

Speaker 8 I was trying to understand that.

Speaker 1 There's a graph.

Speaker 8 It was like worst teams.

Speaker 1 I can't remember who tweets it. If you can find it,

Speaker 1 Max, it's, did we get beat as bad as it says? And this guy, I want to shout him out, tweets it every single week. We're essentially, did you actually deserve to lose or was it really, really close?

Speaker 1 And the ball bounced

Speaker 1 against you and you didn't end up. There it is.
Parker Fleming, stats of war. Great account.
Did we really get beat that bad? Net success rates in week eight. See all the way to the right.

Speaker 1 Ohio State beat the fuck out of the Badgers.

Speaker 4 Ohio State's a great team.

Speaker 1 But they are, the AD came out. Chris McIntosh came out and essentially said, we're not going to change course.
We're just going to try to throw more money at it.

Speaker 1 The money is probably what the NCAA is giving every school. They're giving every school 20 million in the power of four next year.
So they were going to spend it anyway.

Speaker 1 They're going to pretend that this is new money. The culture's broken.
The program's broken. Football matters to universities more than people want to admit.

Speaker 1 I think that if you have a school, a Big Ten school, an

Speaker 1 SEC school where your football program dies, you are going to lose

Speaker 1 admissions, you're going to lose money, donors, pride in the school. So that's why the chancellor needs to wake up, wake the fuck up.
Chris McIntosh, Luke Fickle. I know both the guys.

Speaker 1 They're nice guys. I'm not going to say anything mean about them.
They both are wrong for the job right now.

Speaker 1 And to the sunk cost fallacy of essentially saying, we made a mistake, we're on a bad path, let's throw more money at it will get us deeper into a hole.

Speaker 1 And I'm starting to think now they're going to be bad for five to seven years minimum. And if they just keep going down this path, it's going to be a decade.

Speaker 4 Do you think that they're going to spend more money? Or do you think that, like, do you have any knowledge that they're just taking the new money that's coming in?

Speaker 1 I don't. I think they might try to spend more money.
But again, it's sunk cost fallacy where the new money is not going to fix the culture, which is broken.

Speaker 1 Luke Fickle, I thought, was a great hire at the time. It has been a disaster.
I still think he could be a good coach somewhere else, not at Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 You have to look in the mirror and say, this is not working. We need to clean house.
Who's going to look in the mirror? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, the chancellor does, but clean house because it's very stupid and it's frustrating, and I'm very depressed about it.

Speaker 4 Neutral field game:

Speaker 4 Wisconsin versus UNC.

Speaker 1 UNC.

Speaker 4 You think UNC? Two good.

Speaker 8 Wisconsin JMU.

Speaker 1 That's JMU easy. JMU's good.

Speaker 1 They're so bad. They haven't scored in two weeks.
They don't score. They don't have anything.
They look like they're getting punked everywhere.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for the guys on the team because they're not being put in a good spot. And now you're basically saying, hey, we're going to just keep doing it.
They have played a very, very hard schedule.

Speaker 1 We have Oregon, who's wearing the coolest jersey.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I was going to say, at least that game will be vibey.

Speaker 1 Look at this. We've scored

Speaker 1 20 points in the last four weeks.

Speaker 4 Two touchdowns. Do you guys do sad jump around? Yeah.
Like if you're getting your ass.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, I have friends who went to the game, the Iowa game. They said it was so depressing.
It's just an absolute disaster.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the only thing you could say about Luke Fickle, I will say the one thing that he has gotten a little screwed at, he has had

Speaker 1 just the worst luck with QB injuries. Every year our QB gets injured.
But still,

Speaker 1 you're getting paid a lot of money to build a roster, to build a culture. Have you thought about it? Guys aren't getting better.

Speaker 4 Let's just say, and we, you know, never talking about another man's job.

Speaker 4 Fickle might not be the best fit there right now. I don't know if they're actually going to stay with him.

Speaker 4 It seems like he's probably going to be gone, no matter what they'll say right now about the guy. But who would you want next? Jason Eck, Badger, New Mexico head coach.
No James Franklin?

Speaker 1 Culture. I don't think James Franklin would take the job.
I would take James Franklin.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Leonard as well. Although that will not happen if Max still has a job.

Speaker 1 The other part I think they're doing with the sun-cost fallacy is Florida's open. Penn State's open.
Auburn's probably going to be open. There's a lot of premier jobs that are open.

Speaker 1 We'll miss if Lane goes to Florida.

Speaker 4 Arkansas. Arkansas.

Speaker 1 So they're saying we don't want to compete against that. Guess what? You don't compete against that.
The program's bottomed out. You have to look in the mirror and say, who are we as a program?

Speaker 1 We are not even.

Speaker 1 A guy who's going for the Penn State job is not going for the Wisconsin job anymore.

Speaker 1 The gap was smaller 10 years ago, but it still was always going to be Penn State. So have some fucking self-awareness and realize where you're at and that it's a disaster.
I like the Titanic.

Speaker 1 They're basically playing. The AD releasing that statement yesterday was essentially just taking a violin out as the sink goes as the ship goes down.

Speaker 4 I think those guys get a bad rap, though. Shout out to the band members of the Titanic.
They knew they were going to die. They still just want to put a little bit of joy in it.

Speaker 1 They want to push at the very end.

Speaker 4 Good for them.

Speaker 1 My other hot seats is guys because I saw this the other day. It was the top five least attractive male hobbies.
Okay. And this is bullshit, but one is playing video games.
Okay. Sorry, Zach.

Speaker 1 Two is collecting figurines.

Speaker 1 Three is crypto. Four is online trolling.
Five is gambling.

Speaker 1 Those are the five funnest things to do.

Speaker 11 Online trolling's got to be number one.

Speaker 1 It says playing video games, dude.

Speaker 4 You think online trolling... What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 memes. Memes just got his entire life taken down.

Speaker 4 It's only online trolling if you're trolling people that the girl doesn't like, though. If you're trolling people...

Speaker 4 If you're trolling somebody that the girl likes, if you're trolling somebody that the girl doesn't like, they're like, good for you.

Speaker 1 I think there might be some women who, if they found out their boyfriend had a burner account and was probably tweeting mean things about her, being like,

Speaker 1 she just showed up, ruined the whole vibe. That'd be bad.
That would probably be bad. Online trolling.
That's where my mind went. Guys can't have hobbies.
They can't have hobbies.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is Stella Blue Coffee. I have it right in front of me.
I have the Espresso Sweet Cream. I also have the Espresso Cafe Mocha because Thursday, get ready.

Speaker 1 We are finally going to have some cans that are going to be available for purchase, ready to drink. So that's a little teaser.
We'll have everything. Just be ready on Thursday.
Be ready.

Speaker 1 They're very, very good. Very good.
They're very, very good. And my other cool throne is RG3 because I know it's not takey season, but we can just mark this down.

Speaker 1 We probably have the winner for Take of the Year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd say it's definitely up there.

Speaker 1 This is RG3.

Speaker 4 I mean, August skip Bayless saying that Travis Hunter should have gotten baptized.

Speaker 1 I don't know. This one is a strong one.
Double whammy. August 19th, RG3 said, I'm convinced that the Indianapolis Colts are trying to tank for Arch Manning.
Double whammy.

Speaker 1 Shitting on Daniel Jones, propping up Arch Manning. You've been so wrong both directions.

Speaker 4 That is pretty bad.

Speaker 10 He also said, like, hey, it's a disservice to Jaden Daniels to keep comparing him to me when that's literally literally all he did last year yes was was make that listen RG3 he he he chases takes he gets takes and that's okay he gets takes off Zach hot seat cool thrown my hot seat this week is going to be Amazon web services I believe that we gave Bezos too much of the cloud yeah we should break up this weather system somehow one mistake over at AWS leads to just half the internet imploding lives being does it let me ask you a question I don't I'm not familiar with AWS does it does it take down your finger to press the button?

Speaker 10 I think you could spend hours attempting to press a button into an abyss because there's no the cloud that you entrusted to back the button has withered away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a great take by the way.

Speaker 4 I thought AWS was award-winning silence because there were no podcasts up.

Speaker 1 Ah, good point. There was a podcast up.
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 6 It got up.

Speaker 11 It's up right now.

Speaker 1 It was up late.

Speaker 10 We should break up this cloud into smaller clouds. This storm system is too big.

Speaker 1 I do feel bad for Max. I'm busting his balls.
He got absolutely screwed on Sunday night. Do you want to tell us what happened on Sunday night?

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was tough. Football nights are tough, are late nights.
We've talked about this a lot.

Speaker 11 You know, 2.45,

Speaker 11 finish up. It's a great feeling.
You're like, all right, all you got to do, upload this, and then go to bed and wake up and have your Monday.

Speaker 11 I go into our back end, and it's just glitching out like crazy. Like,

Speaker 11 different alerts are getting hit at me. There's like different question marks everywhere.
I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 1 I think it's like...

Speaker 1 You're not ready for that. No.

Speaker 1 Your brain is not ready for question marks and alerts.

Speaker 11 Like where there should be Barcelon logos, it was just like question marks. And that's a bad sign for anything.
So then I think it's like, oh, fuck, fuck our own system. This is bullshit.

Speaker 11 No one's awake to help me right now. The Barcelona is just fucked.
I tweet something out from the PMT account being like,

Speaker 11 we're working to fix this. I wasn't working on shit.
I couldn't have done anything.

Speaker 4 Well, it is crazy when Amazon goes down, like almost the entire internet goes down.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and then everyone was just replying to my tweet being like, we're working on this.

Speaker 11 And then everyone was like, it's the entire internet. What the fuck are you going to do? And I was like, good point.
I'm not going to do anything.

Speaker 11 So then I just stayed up for the next like five and a half hours just refreshing our back end, seeing if it would just like magically start working again.

Speaker 11 And then like at one point, I just couldn't keep my eyes open. So I just kept setting 20-minute alarms.

Speaker 11 So I would fall asleep, wake up 20 minutes later, check my phone, see if anyone was awake, or if it magically started working. So it would be 20 minutes, sleep, refresh, check my email, nothing.

Speaker 11 20 minutes, refresh, check my email, nothing. Until 7 a.m.
Central Time.

Speaker 11 I actually woke, I didn't even wake up to the alarm. I woke up to Big Cat calling me, him just being like, Pizza, we're good to go.
And then we were good to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, because Pete, I saw it. I'm usually the first up.
I saw it. It called Pete right away.
And Pete said,

Speaker 1 it just came back. I can't get in touch with Max.
So I was like, I'll call him. So

Speaker 1 you were in your 20-minute phase. Yeah, I was in your 2000 window.
You were in a 20-minute nap window. I was in my 20-minute nap window.

Speaker 11 Because there's one thing, like staying awake when you're working on something. Yeah.
It's another. I was just sitting there with nothing.
There was nothing I could do.

Speaker 1 That's so frustrating.

Speaker 11 Until somebody else could wake up or until Amazon could just start working again.

Speaker 1 So sorry to the AWLs, but it was not Max's fault.

Speaker 4 Probably every other podcast had this too, right?

Speaker 11 That's a barstool thing.

Speaker 1 That is not a me thing. That was my first question.
I was like, why is every other podcast? But still,

Speaker 1 the podcast, this is also a good reason to subscribe to the YouTube. YouTube was up,

Speaker 1 but we apologize. It was not a Max forgetting to press the button.
We were getting AWS attacked. The cloud.

Speaker 4 They don't want you to listen to this podcast.

Speaker 1 The cloud fucked us. Cloud fucked us.
The cloud fucked up. Hard.

Speaker 11 Hard. And

Speaker 11 my sleep schedule. Diet's going to be bad again this week.
I'm saying it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's fine. It's AWS.
Fuck you, AWS. You made Max fat this week.
It's not fair. Max made his nachos, by the way.
Great job.

Speaker 4 They were awesome nachos. They were really good nachos.
Good nachos. Put a smile on my face.

Speaker 11 We're going to have to think of something else for this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bring back. Max's deli.
Ooh. Max's deli? Max's rib house? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Maybe house?

Speaker 11 That might be a little too daunting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Max's lasagna castle.

Speaker 11 That I could probably figure out. Make a snippet.

Speaker 4 Max's meatballs. Make a salad.

Speaker 1 Max's meatballs would be good. Meatballs.

Speaker 11 Meatballs would be good. Meatballs would be good.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, good hot seat. Cool turn?

Speaker 10 My cool turn this week is Baker Mayfield. There's a lot of narratives out this morning saying Baker Mayfield did this, Baker Mayfield did that, saying he had a bad game.

Speaker 10 I just want to go on record and say the rational side of the internet and sports fans understand that this is an inflate gate situation.

Speaker 10 Those balls were getting thrown high for a reason, and I think it might be helium-based.

Speaker 4 Oh, turned out to get your boy. Okay.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 10 I think it might be a smear campaign. I think a backroom equipment room, the job might have went down.

Speaker 10 And I think Baker should rest assured that when he's back on the field playing with regulation equipment, that those balls are going into hands and not into seats.

Speaker 4 I think this is going to be

Speaker 4 good for Baker in the long term because now he just gets a whole bunch of people talking shit about him. Facts.
And so that's, yeah, adding some, they were being too nice to Baker.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 when you were watching the game, at what point were you saying to yourself, ooh, this is a problem?

Speaker 9 First quarter didn't feel good.

Speaker 10 I mean, Amon Raw, there's been a lot of Amon Raw talk recently on the podcast, and I was like, of course, he decides to just break it off in us early on the Bucs.

Speaker 10 I mean, he's hitting spin moves that you see in video games, and then Gibbs is too fast. It seems like he would just break once a drive.

Speaker 10 But then when we got that turnover and the field goal before half, I was like, this is a little bit of momentum switch. This is Baker time.
We're back in it. Yeah, let's do it.
It's showtime.

Speaker 10 And then the game just never opened up. Like, it felt like it wanted to burst.
And then that touchdowns were just going to be hitting both sides. Like, let's do it.
Let's have a game.

Speaker 10 And we never had a game. We just never had a game.

Speaker 1 Oh, you have one person. There's one single tweet that backs you.
This is from Christopher. He said, This is in Flakegate.
The ball's got helium in them.

Speaker 1 Every single Baker Mayfield throws five yards over his receiver's head.

Speaker 10 Christopher has accurate information. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he has no responses, no likes on this tweet. 187.
Shout out, Christopher.

Speaker 10 He's getting suppressed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is. The algorithm.
Yeah, you're right. Not followed by anyone we know.

Speaker 4 Bezos.

Speaker 1 That's Christopher out there. Shout out Chris's son 21.

Speaker 10 Also, the reps pandering to the home crowd, pretty much doing crowd work.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah, we'll just. Hussy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Hussy was crazy last night. And guess what, Dan?

Speaker 13 We're going to give you your challenge back.

Speaker 4 Give it up for Dan, everybody. What's the reflection?

Speaker 1 Why are you so almost excited to give these things back?

Speaker 4 Yeah, next up, we got Jared. Jared's on stage.

Speaker 10 And then he felt a certain type of way about it. He felt good about the challenges.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I'll do it again. Yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 10 I found him like the spot.

Speaker 1 Hey, Dan, have this.

Speaker 1 I didn't like it. You didn't ask for it, but I'm giving it to you.
Yeah. You get a timeout back.
Look at this man. We're a penny soul.
Penny Sewell on the pole.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interview with our good, good friend, recurring guest, and colleague, Ryan Rosillo.

Speaker 4 Hey, this is PFT from Part of My Take.

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Go subscribe. Ryan, great to see you.

Speaker 1 Colleagues now, your first episode out November 3rd. How many takes are you kind of like, do the takes build up in your head?

Speaker 1 Have you been calling people for hours on end trying to get the takes off with a with a few week break here

Speaker 6 yeah real uh just take hoarding and obviously because it's new i really have to let it fly now

Speaker 6 so you know me i'm going to try to come up with a bunch of things uh to get attention maybe expanding the college football playoff to 64 teams is going to be one

Speaker 6 uh is baseball america's pastime again which um

Speaker 6 you know nice run last night was a lot of fun i walked into a bar in Canada right as they were down 3-1 to grab some food. And the place, she's like, You're here for the Jays game?

Speaker 6 And I was like, I am now.

Speaker 6 Springer Yard. By the way, Springer doesn't happen without Hartford.
Hartford has it. Yeah.
New England's Rising Star.

Speaker 6 It just continues to deliver in ways that I wish people would account for a little bit more.

Speaker 6 And then I was watching SportsNet, you know, so it was like tragically hip into the break, places going wild. And I was really happy for the Blue Jays.

Speaker 6 I love all Toronto fans except for Raptors fans, as we know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So do you have, have you had any takes over the last few weeks that you would have put out that would have then become freezing cold takes later that you can call yourself out on?

Speaker 6 No, that's a really good question. Good question.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 You guys are good.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Like, hey, what's your dumbest thought been since you've been off a podcast, Mike, that you're like, I'm really glad I didn't have to do a podcast after that.

Speaker 6 Probably that LSU is still talented enough to hang with anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yikes.

Speaker 6 Figure out this offense.

Speaker 4 As you pointed out, they lost a tackle on the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 They did. Tough environment.
Tough environment. That's what I think is the best part about playoff expansion: just the excuses that are just completely irrelevant prior to having 12 teams.

Speaker 6 You're like, dude, it's over. It's done.

Speaker 6 So there's certainly an argument to be said for like still being alive. LSU is not still alive.

Speaker 6 I'm kind of kidding around. I think once the South Carolina game, I'm like, this is a very talented, not great team, but the offensive line is a huge issue.
But yeah,

Speaker 6 I was trying to get it out there.

Speaker 6 I think the thing that I'm always really impressed with is the self-importance of some of us, where it's like, if I can just get this messaging out there, there might be someone in the committee that sees this tweet.

Speaker 6 And then when this team is being debated, they're going to reference this tweet from mid-October and go, you know, Vandy is

Speaker 6 a little bit more lively. I went to a Vandi Mizzou game once, and it was people were apologizing ahead of time.

Speaker 6 They're like, just so you know, it's a little different than other SEC stops, but it looks like it's back for new.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 the stadium construction is finally finished. Vandi and Mizzou are the two teams that I feel like have been under construction stadium-wise for about 15 years.

Speaker 4 Kansas, too.

Speaker 1 Kansas as well. Yeah, Kansas is

Speaker 1 still not done. Mizzou would just be, someone would be lining up for a field goal and be like, okay, so they're just kicking into someone's backhoe.
Like, what is going on here?

Speaker 6 And that happened for a decade yeah because it was a pile of rocks forever right and then it was it might be smart for recruiting just always have construction going on

Speaker 6 be like and when you get here i remember when we took the tour in college at uvm and they were like and we're going to get cable in the dorm soon which we never did uh and then the older guys are like they said the same thing at our tour as well so um

Speaker 6 Yeah, that might be something. Just be under construction the entire time because you want to make a decision, whether it's in your professional life, personal life, or like, is there room for growth?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what they do at Country Club. It's like, yeah, the clubhouse, we're doing a complete renovation on it right now, and it's going to be done next spring just in time for the season.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, yeah, sure, I'll sign up. That's awesome.
State-of-the-art facilities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why your dues are a little bit more. We had to bump them up this year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, guess what?

Speaker 6 That's a little bit harder. Yeah.
Track again everywhere. We're getting those installed.
Then you're on the driving range a year later. Being like, where is

Speaker 6 like, no, you're supposed to bring a range finder?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the new podcast feed, same old. People are going to say, oh, what's Ryan doing?

Speaker 1 Same show. You have Saruti and nephew Kyle are with you.
Sorry, Kyle are with you.

Speaker 1 And everyone should expect it's the same show. I know that people,

Speaker 1 when the news was announced, they're like, oh, he's going to change. He's going to start guessing that ass every day.
I feel like he and Nikki Smokes are going to be doing Blow at the Bar.

Speaker 1 You're doing the same show and you're in California and pretty much nothing is changing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's pretty much it. Um,

Speaker 6 the last week has been a bit of a reminder when I left ESPN and went to Ringer and then Spotify. It was like the second I started putting out content, it's like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 6 Now that he's not at ESPN anymore, I'm like, I'm literally the exact same person. And so it was a nice little reminder seven years later that it's happening all over again.

Speaker 6 Like you say one nice thing about Sabrina Carpenter, and it's like, oh, he fits in perfect with Portnoy. Yeah.
Weirdo.

Speaker 4 Or you like, Ryan leaves a ringer and all of a sudden he likes girls. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, also, that's a double whammy because Dave does have in our contract we have to tweet about the WNBA at least once a week.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, I'm excited about that.

Speaker 6 Mine are going to be mostly stat stuff.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
That's fair. Yeah.
That's fair.

Speaker 6 Some warp. Yeah.

Speaker 6 But yeah, I mean, I thought Sabrina Carpenter was awesome in that podcast sketch. And I think as podcasters, I think we even have a greater appreciation for it.

Speaker 6 So you try to compliment her, and then it's like, oh, here we go. And the funnier thing is like, I gave out a couple picks to fulfill my contract.
And it was like, oh, now he's giving out picks.

Speaker 6 And you're like, dude, I've been giving out these mid-ass picks for a year and a half. Yeah.
Like, oh, now he's saying mid, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, true. Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're onk. That's sketchy by you.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Have you had a conversation with the boys about the podcast feed? Because there's been some podcast feed issues over here.

Speaker 6 No,

Speaker 6 of all the stuff that I've observed, I can't wait to not be involved in all of it. Well,

Speaker 6 I don't know if there's a first-class flight issue. I don't really go that many places, so I'm out of that.

Speaker 6 The feed issue is a big reason why, like, when you go to market, and luckily you guys never really have to because you're so powerful, but when you start walking into these meetings and it's like, where's your feed?

Speaker 6 And you're like, I don't have my feed.

Speaker 6 It's massive. It's a massive, massive difference.

Speaker 6 So luckily this time around, any new place that I was talking to was like, okay, we can figure out a way to get you your feed after a certain amount of time. So

Speaker 6 I don't know if that's what you were asking.

Speaker 4 No, it was just basically busting Max's ball. It says, the first time Max has ever missed a feed was on Monday morning with the show coming out a little bit late.

Speaker 1 But your guys are on top of that.

Speaker 1 It also.

Speaker 6 Oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone do subscribe to it. It was also a nice Welcome to Barcelona moment.
I texted you right after, Ryan, but you announced your new feed where everyone could subscribe.

Speaker 1 And then it quickly became a Dave Portnery versus Jerry Kraubis fight and that was dragging that was great that was great it was like somewhere under like 15 of these quote tweets is ryan's new feed we just got to find it

Speaker 6 it was good it was almost like it was done on purpose we're like let's get a little controversy going here but yeah back to the original point um

Speaker 6 I and to me, it's the exact same show. It's three days a week.

Speaker 6 We may change up some of the release times a little bit because maybe some of those later Friday ones that were coming out kind of late, like especially if it's hitting the East Coast at five o'clock in the afternoon on a Friday, isn't the optimum time to drop new stuff.

Speaker 6 But yeah, probably a little bit more active on a couple other things. But I don't, I mean, I've been doing this a long time.
I don't know,

Speaker 6 if anything, it'd be like exhausting to try to be somebody different.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Now,

Speaker 4 are you going to start covering and watching the NFL?

Speaker 6 I know. You guys love the NFL.

Speaker 1 Love the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ryan always hits us up at 1 p.m. on Sundays, just checking in.
Wanted to chat. Can't chat then, Ryan.

Speaker 1 Games are bad. I fell for it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's totally backfired, though. I don't know.
Did Hank tell you what happened? Because I was going to be my little thing with you guys, but

Speaker 6 I couldn't do it every week, right? I had to try to sneak him in. So right at kickoff week one, I call Big Cat and he answers.
And I was just like, what are you up to, man?

Speaker 6 And then he's like, God damn it. I can't believe I answered this, but you dick.
And then he just hung up on me. So then I gave it a couple of weeks and I randomly call Hank.

Speaker 6 And Hank's like, hello, which has happened maybe twice ever that I've called Hank.

Speaker 6 And I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I missed my flight

Speaker 6 driving

Speaker 6 to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 And then I was like, well, God, shit.

Speaker 1 I was like, this is back.

Speaker 6 This isn't really working. And I think I said something like, hey, are you, are you like seeing anybody or anything?

Speaker 6 Like, no, I. He's like, no, and I was like, I was like, man, this whole thing.
I was like, it didn't work. I was like, this is what I was trying to do.
And he was just like, yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 6 So he kind of got me because, I mean, his mind was elsewhere. He wasn't where he was supposed to be.

Speaker 6 And he was so miserable because I've had to do that like weird Pittsburgh, how can I get a flight out of here thing?

Speaker 6 And then I think I tried it with PFT once and it was like a DM.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you sent me a tried anymore.

Speaker 4 You sent me a DM one time and then I don't think I replied to it for like four days. And it was like, yeah, this probably, I don't know if this bit's paying off for you, but it's a good bit.

Speaker 1 It's good. Keep going.

Speaker 1 Go through the wall.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, so let's talk some college football.
So let's start with your LSU Tigers and the fact that Brian Kelly feels like he might be on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 Have you, because you actually are plugged in with some people there? LSU, they're not going to go to the playoff this year. Doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 1 What are they going to do? What's the future? Is Brian Kelly going to get another year? I heard that there was, he was, he went on vacation in the bye week.

Speaker 1 It just never felt like a good fit, and it's just just proving to be not a great fit.

Speaker 6 Okay, but I think one of the problems with like fit, especially when it's in the south, it's like, oh, you have to be a southern person. And then it's like, you know, we always kind of defaulted.

Speaker 6 It's like, oh, he's like this great cultural fit. You know, I still don't think people, like a lot of people realize like Saban isn't from Alabama.
No.

Speaker 6 You know, even like Matt Brown of Texas, he's winning. He's like, oh, he's a perfect fit for that Texas culture.
And it's like, yeah, but it's like.

Speaker 6 We kind of fall for this. So in the South, I feel like it's even harder when you don't feel Southern or you don't have connections to to the high schools organically.

Speaker 6 But Kelly's track record was incredible. So the fact that they would want to back up the bus for him and pay him a ton of money, I never really had an issue with.

Speaker 6 And whenever I look at the fan bases, they get really, really mad about, you know, whether it's like,

Speaker 6 I know that it's not been to the standard because the only standard at LSU is winning a national championship. But it's not like they're terrible.
I think this year it's disappointing.

Speaker 6 And you're continuing to see an offense. It's like it doesn't make any sense with Nussmeyer and the fact they can't run the football again this year.

Speaker 6 All of these numbers, they're pretty alarming. But

Speaker 6 whenever a team that's at that level decides, like, okay, like, get rid of this guy, the first thing I always like, AM should be thrilled right now, but AM was kind of like Elko. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, that's the best we can do.

Speaker 6 And look, it's, it's, they've, they've been terrific this year, but in that moment, the number of fan bases that they want the guy out and then they see the available replacements, they're almost always disappointed.

Speaker 6 You know, like Penn State's throwing around names right now. It's like, why would any of these people go there that are currently this happy with where they're at?

Speaker 6 So it ends up always being kind of disappointing. So I look, I think Kelly deserves another year,

Speaker 6 but it really sometimes that sometimes those spots are just so intense that you can admit, like the coach will go,

Speaker 6 I'm not going to be miserable if I don't have to do this again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. By the way, the fit wasn't like he's not a southerner, it was more that he's incredibly unlikable, and that will immediately speed up his timeline by a year because he's just

Speaker 1 a dick.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but it has everything to do with wins and losses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 6 No one would care about any of this Belichick stuff if they were showing any kind of signs of improvement at UNC, which would be the funniest thing of people having to like justify, but considering they're also not very good.

Speaker 6 Like, you just you can't get over the content. I can't believe that story.
I can't believe the leaked video that Pablo had and then her describing like, hey, is

Speaker 6 End Zone redundant? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Should that be, should that be red zone?

Speaker 1 We were saying that video, the winner of that entire video is Matt Patricia, the most patient man in the world. And just sitting there being like, listen,

Speaker 1 my buddy's happy. I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 4 I can't say anything. Also, Matt Patricia, the fact that he very easily could have ended up at UNC this year.

Speaker 4 And instead, he's at Ohio State coaching the best defense in the country, probably having a great time, probably really enjoying himself.

Speaker 4 Big winner, big winner in that split up.

Speaker 6 She's going to be running a company, though. Like, that confidence is undeniable.
Yeah. Like, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 I mean, obviously, she's got some years to go here, but to sit next to Belichick and another coach like Patricia and then explain, like, hey, does that make sense?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And they're like, yeah, actually, it kind of does make sense. But if they were five and two, like, think about it.

Speaker 6 Now, granted, UNC is like not on that level, but imagine if this were at Auburn and they were five and two, and then Auburn fans would be like, it's totally fine. What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 Like, this is great. Massive turnaround, tons of energy.
You should see the quad. Like, we

Speaker 6 really only care. Like, you know, Kelly, I get it.
He's tough. He's really tough.
And he kind of put his foot in his mouth with the way he went after that reporter about the offense.

Speaker 6 And I could also kind of understand, like, hey, we just won a game. And, like, the first thing you're going to do is talk about the offense here.

Speaker 6 But it's, it's a lingering issue for a team that felt like it was loaded. But I don't know.
I mean, after that bandy game, but we saw it coming. Yeah.
Coming in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, uh, real quick, we touched on Ohio State there.
They are the best team in the country. Are you ready? We have been doing this for about a month now.

Speaker 1 Are you ready to say this team is better than last year's team?

Speaker 6 Wow.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think Saiyan's even better.

Speaker 6 He just, you know, they don't even need him. Like, that's the thing that's wild about it.
Like, I was looking at the third and long, like, anything third and four or longer, those numbers.

Speaker 6 Like, nobody converts anything against this defense. And you'd think, like, losing Knowles and then losing Chip Kelly, you bring in two new coordinators.
You have Saiyan.

Speaker 6 You're like, okay, is this going to be as seamless a transition? And it is.

Speaker 6 Now, I caution all of us that fall into this trap all the time of like that six or seven game stretch where we were doing it before Oregon lost to Indiana, where it's like, okay, it feels like there's three teams and there's a gap.

Speaker 6 It's like, okay, yep, but two of those teams lost. And the Indiana win at Oregon, I think, is the single best win of the entire college football season.

Speaker 6 And I also think Oregon's getting dropped down too far in the polls after the fact because I think Indiana really is that good this year. So now to look at Ohio State as like this unbeatable team,

Speaker 6 their record and their stats are going to say that. And yeah, it feels like it's them and everybody else right now.

Speaker 6 But I feel like we make this mistake every single year when we're talking about whatever the gap is between how many teams can like win a title versus like who the actual favorite is.

Speaker 6 So I, like everybody else, you've watched Ohio State, what they did to Washington's offense, just humiliating.

Speaker 6 Minnesota, like that was the night game. And they're coming out of a tunnel and you're like, all right, here we go.
Like some Big Ten action. You're like, this is humiliating.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And the rest of their schedule isn't really going to be that challenging for them. So this should be pretty easy.

Speaker 1 It just feels like they are a step above everyone else. But I know you

Speaker 1 don't love the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 1 We've debated it ad nauseum. It does feel like there's some good parody in that next grouping, Indiana being at the top of it, but Indiana, Oregon, Texas A ⁇ M.
Notre Dame is good.

Speaker 1 I know people wrote them off after the first two games. They've kind of figured out their defense.
I like CJ Carr.

Speaker 1 Who in that next groupings would you say you're highest on and to be like, that's the team that will maybe take down Ohio State? Miami.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 You know, Miami, they get the terrible bet game, which

Speaker 6 it's more normal to be a really good team to look absolutely terrible one of these 12 games. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I feel like, you know, remember before Clemson won titles, and, you know, Van Pelt and I had argued about it or whatever, but like he did a whole thing on Clemsoning, which is a very like ACC thing.

Speaker 6 And it's like, oh, Clemson's going to get off to this big start.

Speaker 6 And then my whole point was, do you know how many different programs around the country that get off to a good start, that have these high expectations, end up losing late in the season?

Speaker 6 It's like, oh, we did it again. It's like, no, no, that's actually normal.
Like, that's normal, Oklahoma.

Speaker 6 That's normal, Miami. And granted, Miami blowing that game to Syracuse is probably not normal considering what was at stake last season.
But I expect that to happen.

Speaker 6 It's very rare that we have any of these teams that are going to go clean throughout the entire season. And now you're asking to win even more games to get through this expanded playoff.

Speaker 6 Like, that's a ridiculous ask to go, you can't lose any of these games, or maybe you can lose one and win in the national championship game.

Speaker 6 And then, of course, you have Ohio State losing two and then still looking

Speaker 6 clearly like the best team last year.

Speaker 6 But normally, like a lot of years,

Speaker 6 you know, I'm... I wouldn't call it bias.
I just think the SEC conversation was really stupid for a bunch of years.

Speaker 6 Now other teams have won titles.

Speaker 6 And I think the argument could be: okay, well, if it's only about winning titles, then why were all these people in the SEC was winning all these titles still arguing that it wasn't the best conference?

Speaker 6 And now that the Big Ten has won back-to-back titles, the thing that you argued against, you're using as your main talking point to talk about a shift in the conferences.

Speaker 6 I don't think there's any question the SEC is deeper than all these other conferences. I mean, sometimes when I like go through it and you're like, Texas is 10th.

Speaker 6 You know, I think that was what it was before this last weekend.

Speaker 6 I don't really love any of these SEC teams this year as like real title contenders. Maybe it's Alabama.

Speaker 1 Ty Simpson is awesome.

Speaker 6 He's awesome. He's a baller.
The two fourth-down throws against Mizzou. They're now like four wide receivers deep.
I think Hill, the 240-pound back that we saw in the Tennessee game.

Speaker 6 And like, look, that was a really good game. I think Tennessee's pretty good, but you get a pick six at the end.
It's a massive, like, at the very least, 10-point swing, maybe a 14-point swing.

Speaker 6 So their defense looks like it's getting a little bit better. Earlier in the season, you looked at BMSD and you're like, where are the dudes?

Speaker 6 Like, where are the two guys that just destroy the other team's offense coming off the edge? And there were some rushing attempt numbers against them that were pretty alarming.

Speaker 6 Like Georgia ran at 70 yards per carry. And then they go and face Mizzou who's got Hardy.
He's the number one running back in the country at that point. And they shut them down.

Speaker 6 So I think they're growing. And the Simpson, the receiver group, is my favorite, probably.

Speaker 6 collection of like if there's one thing to point to whether it's a front or a secondary or you know, sometimes I don't know that we talk about running backs enough anymore, but like Simpson and those receivers is something I like better than anything that AM has, better than anything Ole Miss has.

Speaker 6 I mean, Ole Miss has been kind of a weird team this year. I think they're kind of like in that Tennessee group.
Like, yeah, they're good, but I don't think they're as good as Indiana or Ohio State.

Speaker 6 And I don't even know that I think Alabama is as good as those two teams. And AM,

Speaker 6 for all the defensive numbers that they had prior to that Arkansas game, granted, Arkansas is kind of like a weird, sneaky, like can hang around for three hours.

Speaker 6 I'm not as high on Reed as I am as, say, a Simpson or maybe

Speaker 6 probably even Trinidad, although it looked like Trinidad kind of fell apart there in that Georgia game.

Speaker 1 Or Gunnar Stockton. Gunner Stockton looks bad.

Speaker 1 Gunner Stockton has had two games now where it's not looked great, but in big moments at Tennessee and then Ole Miss this past weekend, like he's kind of got that, he's a dude in the moment feel to him where it's not great.

Speaker 1 It's not perfect. They could probably, if they get in the playoff, they maybe get into deep waters that he can't get out of.

Speaker 1 But he has twice now impressed me in like, hey, your back's against the wall. You got to start making plays right now.
Otherwise, your season's going to be fucked. And he's done it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 you're probably right. I mean, I guess the biggest problem is that we're holding Georgia to like the Georgia standard.
And this Georgia team is not even close to those teams.

Speaker 6 The defense isn't as good. They don't run the ball consistently.

Speaker 6 And I think the Stockton fourth down throw against Tennessee was like, okay, you know, because I felt like coming out of last year into this year, you're like, wait, you guys thought that guy was good at the end of the year last year?

Speaker 6 Like, he almost got decapitated. And everybody kept like, oh, man, this guy's got so much juice.
It's like, yeah, that's awesome. He survived that play, but I don't know that I necessarily trust him.

Speaker 6 And you don't even have to listen to me. Like, Herb Streets brought it up during broadcast.
I don't know if he's done on any podcast, but

Speaker 6 there's a tendency for him because he's such a good runner. He's a tough player.
He's kind of a gamer that he's going to bail a little bit quicker.

Speaker 6 But that comeback against Ole Miss to put up that many points for an offense that you're like, you know, do you trust this defense to get the other team to go three and out when you need it to?

Speaker 6 And it's like the fourth quarter, the script entirely flips. So, like, Georgia's good, but they're incredibly one-dimensional.

Speaker 6 And yeah, maybe Stockton will make a couple plays, but over the course of three hours against another really good football team, I don't know that he's going to be able to keep up with the other better quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And to your point about Miami's loss, which means a second ago, like Louisville on a Friday night,

Speaker 4 that's a tough matchup for anybody. Jeff Brock.
That's got to be,

Speaker 4 I think Louisville on Friday nights is they're the most dangerous team in America, and they have been for years. If you don't know about Louisville Friday nights, they play different.

Speaker 4 They play different there. So I'm not writing Miami off just yet or anybody that loses to Louisville on a Friday night this year.
I think that's something that you have to put in its own bag.

Speaker 4 Okay, weird things happen. Let's move on.

Speaker 4 And to your point about the SEC and the Big Ten,

Speaker 4 the answer to why Big Ten fans are now saying, oh, yeah, we beat the Big Bad SEC.

Speaker 4 They were just lying before when the SEC was clearly better. We moved the goalpost.
They were just like, hey, hey, ESPN is in the tank for the SEC. They're actually not that good.
That was just cope.

Speaker 4 And now that they are actually doing things and winning championships, now they can be like, yeah, we beat the big, bad bully on the block. Now we're the big, bad bully on the block.
Oh, big block.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just lying. Hand up.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think a lot of it and what we saw was,

Speaker 6 it just reminds me of politics. You know, like politics to me is

Speaker 6 when there's an NFL game and you guys love the NFL, so you'll know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 Yeah, huge.

Speaker 6 But when the official turns on the mic, there's 80,000 people in the stadium, and the official's like,

Speaker 6 there's two penalties on the play.

Speaker 6 We're like, first is, you know,

Speaker 6 illegal motion, offense, and then everybody, everybody goes crazy, right? Because their team is on defense.

Speaker 6 And then it's like offsides defense. And then everybody in the stadium booze.
They're like, he just said there was two flags. He just said there were two flags.

Speaker 6 And you got so excited about the first one. And everybody knew that the second one was going to be on you.
And yet you still cheered for the first one.

Speaker 6 And I think that is a perfect example of like how people argue with each other over politics all day long.

Speaker 6 It's like the thing that you can point to, there's a really good chance like your guy is going to do the exact same thing or some version of it in like six hours yeah so what's the point to any of this stuff and what i think happened is that a lot of people didn't want to believe because this is another thing like no one actually wants to believe like hey what if i'm not good enough what if that person is better than me you're just going to make excuses so instead of saying like the SEC won seven straight titles with four different teams.

Speaker 6 And before the Big Ten expanded, like to go through that exercise exercise with the Big Ten, it was like,

Speaker 6 give me the four teams that could win a national championship over a seven-year period. And it's like,

Speaker 6 it was a really hard thing to do. Now, you know, look, you bring in Oregon, you bring an SC, Washington plays in a national championship game.
They were in the playoff.

Speaker 6 Then there's also UCLA. So it's an easier argument to be made now.

Speaker 6 But it felt like instead of just admitting it, that it was happening, that it was just a collective agreement from the rest of the country that it's now it has to all be propaganda.

Speaker 6 So, to fight that propaganda, I think what we have now is like, no, no, this is what you're supposed to do. Michigan wins one, Ohio State wins one.
Okay, we're the best.

Speaker 6 And then we just keep hammering that messaging over and over again. It's like people got so mad about an advertisement catchphrase of it just means more that it was like, well, that's not true.

Speaker 6 Like, well, who's keeping track of whether or not that's true or not?

Speaker 1 It was true. That was true.
Yeah. That part was legit.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because the other thing, it's kind of like the Jokic MVP vote.

Speaker 6 Like when I was going around talking to teams before I put my vote in, I would ask about, I would ask front offices and coaching staffs, I'd be like, look, I need help on the defensive guys.

Speaker 6 Are there people I'm missing? Is there somebody I'm not thinking about? Somebody that you think like we don't really understand.

Speaker 6 And then every team that I would talk to, and it's less than 20 and it's over 10, would say, hey, who are you voting for MVP? And I'd be like, I'm actually voting Jokic. They're like, okay, good.

Speaker 6 Like every team, except for one team that was kind of like, hey, I think it's SGA's year and what the team did, 68 wins. He deserves the best player to be

Speaker 6 It's the same thing as anybody that's gone from one of the other conferences to the SEC.

Speaker 6 No one has ever said to me privately, not one has ever said, you know what, this place actually isn't as good as everybody says it is.

Speaker 6 Like every single person that goes in is like, okay, now, like, I thought it was maybe a little overrated or a little stupid. So, yeah, like, I get all the

Speaker 6 propaganda accusations. I haven't worked at ESPN now for, what, six years?

Speaker 6 I mean, if that's what it was with me, then I don't know why I would still be doing it because I'm not getting paid anymore.

Speaker 6 But, like, do you you want to do, you want to keep track of game days visits? Now do big noons.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 6 you know, that, did you see the Fox Sports stadium rankings that Bear and I talked about, who works on the show? They had Michigan number one.

Speaker 6 So I think the funny thing is Fox gets believed that it was only an SEC ESPN thing that Fox is like, you want to see some fucking messaging?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 4 we got it. Give us your top five.
What are your top five stadiums?

Speaker 6 Ooh, well,

Speaker 6 it's LSU one.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 You know, there's this collection of like SEC schools that when it's right, like when Tennessee's right, it's so much fun. Yes.
I think the swamp is in that conversation for when it's right.

Speaker 6 And it's just, I don't know, you've got this like moisture all over you and you're like, this is brutal. Pound for pound, no one can hang with Otson.

Speaker 6 What Oregon does with a lower number, and how, and I was there, you know, when they were really starting to crank that thing up. And I'm standing on the sideline, the USC sideline.

Speaker 6 Remember when Barkley played there as a freshman? And you're standing on the USC sideline.

Speaker 6 And like, I remember Stanford, Steve, and I just looking at each other being like, how can this place be this loud? Like, how can it be this loud when they don't have 100,000 people in here?

Speaker 6 So I guess I would say LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Oregon. And if I have to pick a Big Ten,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, I've been to 60 plus of these places, so, you know.

Speaker 1 Can I throw a Big Ten at you?

Speaker 1 What was your fifth pick?

Speaker 6 Well, I haven't been to Iowa.

Speaker 10 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Kinnick is very, very sneaky, underrated.

Speaker 1 I don't know how, I don't think if you built a stadium like that today, it would be allowed. But the front row at Kinnick, you're basically on the field.
You're standing essentially like that.

Speaker 1 You could tap the players on the shoulder. That's how close it is.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's the same thing in like at Oregon at that point.

Speaker 6 Like I was turning around going, I can't, you know, and then I was like, I think, because normally you'd like to stand on the visiting team side just to be away from all the chaos, right?

Speaker 6 It's a little bit easier to move around. And that Oregon crowd, I was like, I don't want to be like part of the enemy here.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Let's go over to the Oregon side because it's not even feel safe over here. So I haven't been to Kinnick.
I've been to Ohio State. Ohio State's good.
I don't think it's like, oh my God.

Speaker 6 I haven't been to Michigan. I've never heard one person ever discuss Michigan other than the Fox tweet, which again, you guys are kind of aligned with here.

Speaker 6 So I don't mean to put you guys in the crosshairs.

Speaker 1 So are you? Yeah. Welcome to the club.

Speaker 1 But I'm not on the show. But you might be.

Speaker 6 I think there'd be, I could, I could, there's no chance. Like one of my good friends who you met, Big Cat, he told me something years ago that I think is really, really important to remember.

Speaker 6 He's like, out of the 20 of us that are still very close, you know, maybe 10 get together. He's like, half of them are actually rooting against you.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 6 Right. So I think everybody would sit there and like welcome me with open arms, but there's probably two people on the show that are like, this fucking guy is going to get all these reps.

Speaker 1 He could just say Brandon. Yeah.
Yeah. Just say his name.

Speaker 4 Brandon agrees with you about Iowa, by the way.

Speaker 1 We should get, I mean, it would, you do know college ball. So wait, so what's your, what's your big 10 pick? Is it Happy Valley?

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's, it's Happy Valley because it is.

Speaker 1 It's.

Speaker 6 It's awesome. But I always have like, I think I've told this story before.
There was always like a little annoyance when a Penn State staffer came up to me during a whiteout.

Speaker 6 He's like, best thing you've ever seen. I'm like, no, it isn't.

Speaker 1 It isn't.

Speaker 6 And then he was just like looking at me like, you asshole. And I went, it's unbelievable.
Like, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 6 Being like one of the five best atmospheres in the sport is a really great accolade. And the guy was like, whatever.

Speaker 6 Like, was so mad about it in the way that you would be mad about it when you only know one thing. Right.
I was like, all right. And look, just honorable mention is Lubbock.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Halloween, beating number one, Texas. I don't know what it's like week to week, but it's it's still my favorite sporting event that I've ever been to, and it was just so scary.
I mean, it was like

Speaker 6 another portal. Um,

Speaker 6 but I don't know, like, are there any that I'm leaving off?

Speaker 4 Uh, Wrigley Field, when they have Northwestern versus Iowa, is a pretty, pretty iconic location where they play in the outfield grass, Wrigley, where they play in the outfield grass, and sometimes they don't have enough grass for an end zone.

Speaker 4 That's that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Play only going one way.

Speaker 4 Um, I would say Lubbock is a good call because you take your life into your hand when you go into love into Lubbock. The tortillas tortillas flying everywhere could kill somebody.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they open carry. It also has, yeah, it's got the open carry aspect and also the fact that it's just so isolated.

Speaker 4 You're in the middle of nowhere where you go and you're like, am I ever really going to be able to leave this place? It's intimidating. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I liked Florida State. I went to Florida State.
Florida State a lot. Yeah.
And especially, I think they've done a lot of renovations on the stadium. I'd like to see that.

Speaker 1 I thought Florida State was a very cool vibe. And I kind of, I think, if I remember correctly, walking in, they have some of those, it looks like the Coliseum a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's cool at night, especially.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think Florida State also has an atmosphere when it's going right

Speaker 6 that is pretty wild.

Speaker 6 You know, look, I think Wisconsin actually, I know, I just kind of, I know, I know, dude. It's bad.
It's bad. But I was there.

Speaker 6 Well, you were there, weren't you there for the Terrell Prior game when they were number one and they came? Yeah.

Speaker 1 2010.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I went to that game. That was incredible.

Speaker 6 Some people like Norman.

Speaker 6 Texas is better than it used to be, but I don't know that anybody ever brings it up as the best spot.

Speaker 4 What about Cow Field?

Speaker 6 I've been to one game there, and it was awesome. I mean, you could pick, like, Athens is kind of great too on that Saturday afternoon as the sun is going down type of thing.

Speaker 6 I just don't want to pick six or seven SEC schools. But if you pick 10, I don't think you're top four, because I think even the graphic had four big 10 schools and then fifth.

Speaker 6 They were like, all right, we're going to put LSU somewhere here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Wait, that just triggered a memory right there. I don't know if you saw, but speaking of Fox, we did the show out in Utah a couple weeks ago, and I got Rinaldied.
Have you been Rinaldied?

Speaker 6 Well, I mean, if you mean have an awesome time, oh, yeah, no, yeah, I say

Speaker 1 I say it in like all-loving, but he breaks you down

Speaker 1 in like an incredibly fascinating way, and you're just sitting there like,

Speaker 1 where are the cameras? I'm getting Rinaldi.

Speaker 6 All-time Rinaldi went with a bunch of buddies to the Masters.

Speaker 6 The ESPN, I think it's the only time I'd ever asked them for tickets, anything. And they're like,

Speaker 6 not a ton has worked out for this guy. Why don't we hook him up?

Speaker 6 So they gave me like passes Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the double eagle hosting thing, which, if you're doing the Masters right. So, you know, we go to the Wednesday stuff and walk in.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I'm with some college buddies too. So they hadn't really ever seen, like, hey, what can you do here?

Speaker 6 I'm like, I can't do anything that, like, trust me, at Augusta, there's nothing that I can do here that makes it special.

Speaker 6 And then Ronaldi sees us, he goes up, and Ronaldi's like, and if you guys can walk the course today, walk it backwards. The perspective that you're going to have over the next four days.

Speaker 6 And he just like gets right into you, you know, and it was like, it was awesome. He Ronaldi

Speaker 6 Rinaldied me once at a hotel lobby, like in the middle of the day. I was like, Ryan,

Speaker 6 he's like, how's it going? And I explained to him, he goes, dude, you know, the important thing to remember, and I was like, this fucking guy

Speaker 6 is a therapist. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I feel like getting Rinaldi'd at the Masters. That's Peak Rinaldi.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might be heaven. You might have gone to heaven and not realized.

Speaker 4 The birds chirping. You probably hear the piano music in the background.

Speaker 6 My friends were, like,

Speaker 6 they're like, we can't believe that just hit, that that was like a real thing that just happened. Yeah.
It felt like he was doing a TV segment for us. Yeah.
It's like, that's why he's the best.

Speaker 1 That's why he's the best. What fan base in college football gives you the most shit?

Speaker 6 Well, it was Indiana last year, without question, but I was kind of like, you know, look,

Speaker 6 you know, Indiana fans are even mean on threads, which is like impossible.

Speaker 1 Shout out threads. By the way,

Speaker 1 I've had this out with, we have some Indiana fans here. They're really fucking good this year.

Speaker 6 Last year,

Speaker 6 last year,

Speaker 1 I feel like that was a draw. Like, that was

Speaker 1 the comments about Indiana. They should have been in the playoff.
I never said they shouldn't have been in the playoff, but the comments about Indiana, when they step up, is it going to look the same?

Speaker 1 It did not. That all proved to be true.
This year, it's different. Mendoza's special.

Speaker 1 Like, this is a different Indiana team than the conversations we had last year where, you know, they'll point to the 10-point loss to Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Anyone who watched that game, that wasn't a 10-point game. So

Speaker 1 this year's different. This year, if you're not giving Indiana credit this year, then you're a fucking moron and you're stuck in, I don't know where you're stuck.
You're just not watching the games.

Speaker 1 They're awesome.

Speaker 6 Totally agree.

Speaker 6 Last year,

Speaker 6 it was something where I've just, you know, I get so mad about the expansion. We've covered all this stuff and the realignment.

Speaker 6 And you go, do you realize when you have an 18-team league, like you can have a really weird scheduling year?

Speaker 6 So when you look through the 18 teams, other than the Ohio State game, they played, I think, like

Speaker 6 eight of the worst or no, seven of the next eight worst teams in the conference. And of course, they never play anybody out of conference.

Speaker 6 So then when they had the Ohio State game, where it felt like, are you guys just running clock to make this score appear to be a little bit better?

Speaker 6 And then that's why I think Ohio State came right back. They're like, let's put another touchdown on these fucking guys.
And that had a lot to do with Signetti. And look, just Signetti's,

Speaker 6 I shouldn't even say it that way. What Signetti has done here is insane.
Insane.

Speaker 6 For all the other coaches that come into a program and host those luncheons, and it's like, okay, you know, we wait until we get our guys in here, and then they fire coordinators.

Speaker 6 Like, all right, now we have the coordinators we want. For him to do this with a place with such a dismal history in this sport, to even do what he did last year, he deserves all the credit.

Speaker 6 The problem was that he acted like such an asshole so many different times.

Speaker 6 And people can kind of go to the default, like lane kiffin at Tennessee thing, where it's like, no, I'm just doing this to make sure the program gets attention and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 And you're like, dude, you coached that Ohio State game. Like you were scared.
Like you were just going, let me get through this thing.

Speaker 6 Let me try to have some sort of score that looks okay when the committee's talking about us. And so I didn't like the idea of a team being able to get into the playoff by never beating anyone.

Speaker 6 And then the one game that mattered looking like they weren't even close to being in the same class. But then the SEC pisses down their leg.
Like, I wasn't arguing for Alabama even before the last.

Speaker 6 loss of the season for them. Ole Miss loses to Florida.
South Carolina has lost. You're like, look, all these teams lost.
So Indiana is getting into this thing.

Speaker 6 And I was more okay with it at the end, even though I didn't think they were good. And you're exactly right about the Notre Dame thing.

Speaker 6 And then that day, when like Signeti was on with game day, like he went crazy again.

Speaker 6 And then at the beginning of the year, when he talks about his schedule, saying, Hey, we're going to do the SEC schedule thing, and you're like, Do you want to go through the power four opponent stuff?

Speaker 6 Like, do you want to bring up that record in the out-of-conference stuff? Of course, you don't want to do that. Why you don't play anybody?

Speaker 6 So I was still like a little pre-pissed, or I would say, leftover pissed from 24.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 Watch the Illinois game and you're like, you know, Illinois is good. And this is something I'd love to do with you guys at some point.
Like, do we need to rank like 45 teams?

Speaker 6 Because I feel that there's always this group from like 20 to 40 where I kind of reference it as like the meaty good. And they may lose at the wrong time, right on being the cuss of being ranked.

Speaker 6 And then they're not ranked, but then you're never given credit for beating that team.

Speaker 6 Like at times, like I think beating USC last year, despite the record, like that's still a good win, not just because LSU lost to them.

Speaker 6 There's other teams like that this year where I'm like, you know what? Beating that team is actually a good win. I don't care if they don't have a number next to them.

Speaker 6 So the Illinois part of it, and then just think that for three hours, they were that much better than Oregon, even though the score was 20-20 when they throw the pick six.

Speaker 6 And then Mendoza goes right down the field after throwing a pick six to Otsen. All the momentum is shifted.
75 yards, touchdown. The two receivers are studs.
The running backs are awesome.

Speaker 6 Frazier, the linebacker is great. There's like three guys in the D line to feel like they're making plays.
And Mendoza raises their levels. So this is not like

Speaker 6 I felt like I was right the entire time with the Indiana last year, and it was so annoying for a fan base that had never really tasted it before to now be in the conversation.

Speaker 6 It's like, hey, this isn't about whether or not you're any good or you're going to have eight wins. This is about whether or not you're going to compete for a national championship.

Speaker 6 And I'm going to push against that considering what this schedule was. But

Speaker 6 to me, it's like it's a different uniform now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So, is anybody even doing that anymore, though?

Speaker 1 I don't think so, not after the Oregon one. But, like, yeah,

Speaker 1 they are legit, legit. They are going to, you know, I can't wait to see them most likely in the Big Ten Championship against Ohio State.

Speaker 1 But I think this team is every bit as good as pretty much every other team in the top 10, maybe outside of Ohio State, but Ohio State just might be on a different level than everyone.

Speaker 1 But that also could be... If Indiana goes to the Big Ten Championship game and beats Ohio State, I wouldn't sit there and be like, how did that happen? That is the craziest upset of all time.

Speaker 1 No, Indiana has dudes and they have a dude, a quarterback, and I love Signetti.

Speaker 1 He is just, it really is insane. Indiana has the most losses in college football history.
This is a, this is a, this is a university that never was good at all.

Speaker 1 And Signetti literally came in, said he's going to change everything, and he changed everything in a year and a half. It's absolutely unfathomable that this happened.

Speaker 4 I think a big part of it, too, is we've never had a coach that comes in super arrogant and just like calls his shot from day one before they even practice. And he was like, yeah, I win.
Google me.

Speaker 4 Purdue sucks. Ohio State sucks.
Michigan sucks. We've never had a guy that comes in with that level of arrogance that actually does back it up immediately in a big conference like this.

Speaker 4 And so it's kind of shocking. So because he was so arrogant off the jump in that first year, you start to pick apart what he does.
Yeah, it's impressive, but he's not like a powerhouse yet.

Speaker 4 I still think what Signetti did last year was incredibly impressive for Indiana.

Speaker 4 They just weren't like an elite team that was going to ever win a national championship, which is okay for a guy to come in his first year.

Speaker 4 And if that's the biggest knock you have against him, then he's done a hell of a job, even in year one.

Speaker 6 Yeah, whatever annoyances I've had or even reference here, none of it matters. Like what matters is that team went into Otson and was the better football team against an Oregon team that...

Speaker 6 you know, the switch over to Moore and you're like, okay, they didn't really play anybody to start the season.

Speaker 6 But when you were watching him, you're like, okay, so Oregon has like seven weapons again. And their quarterback looks like he's one of the best in the country.

Speaker 6 And like, this is a really good football team. And like, that's the whole point.
Like, I have Oregon in my rankings ahead of all those SEC teams still

Speaker 6 because I think that much of Indiana. So

Speaker 6 any complaint or any issue or any of the things that I referenced to Skinetti, like, I even realized like in the pie chart of like things that actually matter, it's such a sliver.

Speaker 6 It doesn't fucking mean anything because that guy, to your point, like, I want to know more about what they do. Like, do you have any James Madison stuff?

Speaker 6 Like, I know I have connections to the boosters after going to the after party with PFT after he almost killed the guy from Wisconsin, then later apologized in the concourse. Yeah, good guy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you guys worked it out.

Speaker 4 But boy, now, to be fair, in that moment, I probably had, you know, I had some big balls in the moment because I knew that I had the two best security guards in the world there, Max and then Ryan, who

Speaker 4 I was in a tuxedo. No one wants to punch a guy in a tuxedo.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 president brasillo they're just like with biceps swollen busting through his t-shirt like nobody is me that night it was it was i got this guy on call it was like robin big you were my big yeah r.I.P.

Speaker 6 I think I think Max was ready to jump in because I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 6 We also had low man position, which in

Speaker 6 the seats is not helpful.

Speaker 9 No, it's not.

Speaker 6 It's not a level playing ground at all. So I was like, I don't really want to do this.
I don't want this headline.

Speaker 6 But I was able to connect with a bunch of the JMU people afterwards. I love those guys, rocking rugby jackets.
Like, that's a,

Speaker 6 I've been telling people about you people now since that night. It's like, that's a wild group.
And I'm really impressed.

Speaker 6 But, I mean, to bring it back to Signeti, like, do you have further perspective?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the only thing that I think I'll go ahead.

Speaker 4 I was going to say, the only thing I've heard about his practices that he would run at JMU was he was like relatively hands-off during practice.

Speaker 4 He would spend a lot of time watching from either in the stands, sometimes

Speaker 4 in the booth, looking down on practice and like taking in a holistic approach of looking at the team.

Speaker 4 Now, that might not be how he conducts every single practice, but I heard he did a lot of that and then spent a lot of time just by himself breaking stuff down in practice.

Speaker 4 And then he would give the message to his coaches, okay, here's how we're going to attack it. He wasn't so much like checking in on everybody, micromanaging.
He was a big picture guy.

Speaker 1 Kadik, who played for Signeti last year, who works with us now,

Speaker 1 he said that he's got a little like Harbaugh in him, where he's a little off, but in a great way, where it's like.

Speaker 6 Is that the one that dates Anna?

Speaker 1 No, that is not.

Speaker 1 He's a little off.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to create a tree for you, a chart that you can get.

Speaker 6 Yeah, if you have some index cards, so

Speaker 6 you've got to get caught up on all the stuff. That'd be great.

Speaker 1 We got you.

Speaker 1 But a little off, but in a great way.

Speaker 1 Like, Harbaugh's a little off, but it's because he just loves football so much that it just keeps everyone a little bit on edge, but in a really sharp way that I think some of these special coaches, like,

Speaker 1 they're wired different, and it can really work, especially in this game.

Speaker 4 People used to tell me all the time, like, he is a clone of Nick Saban, which I would, like, laugh about because obviously he's not Nick Sabin.

Speaker 4 But people would always tell me, like, he has so many Saban-like qualities. It would blow your mind if you spent time around him.

Speaker 4 I never felt like I would ever say that publicly because you're comparing him to the greatest coach who ever lived.

Speaker 4 But I think you're starting to see some of that, you know, some similarities come through with the guy when it comes to his football mindset.

Speaker 1 I love that he said that UCLA is a 3-0 team. That's a classic.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just gets up and friends. He's like, we're playing a 3-0 team because

Speaker 1 they changed their coach and they're 3-0. And that's how we're approaching this game.

Speaker 6 The head coach that no one knows.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 UCLA, it's just funny because New Heisel's in every single picture, and it's like the interim head coach.

Speaker 6 Am I actually the head coach? Yeah.

Speaker 1 New Eisel's breaking him down after games.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He's like handing out game balls.

Speaker 6 Again, to your point, I'm like the Signeti stuff and being on safest.

Speaker 6 Whatever it was, whatever this is, and the way his team responds and to turn it around, there are teams all over the country with far better resources, boosters willing to do whatever you need.

Speaker 6 And for this guy to be like, if we're just average in resources, then I can win here. And you're just like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
And he's done it.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I'm not, if they lose, I don't know. And like the fact that, you know, Big Cat, you even said it too.

Speaker 6 The fact that I'm even thinking of like, if they play Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game, like I have to think about my pick. And I might go, you know what?

Speaker 6 Why don't you just go the other way with this? Instead of, clearly, Ohio State will be favored. It's going to be impossible to pick against them.

Speaker 6 We're going to be factoring the history and the uniform and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 Maybe the smarter football minds can be like, hey, there's a matchup here on the outside or there's something here where they're interior linemen that, you know, advantage Indiana.

Speaker 6 Maybe like explain it to me because

Speaker 6 like it doesn't matter like if they don't beat them like this is this is entire if they're bounced out of the playoff they don't win the big 10 championship game there's no no one should be going oh see same old idiot no

Speaker 1 like what are you talking about that's yeah that's the difference all right give me a team that is maybe not in the top five that you're like watch out for them i'll throw one out there i georgia tech just keeps winning they're like the uh they're bizarro world auburn and auburn just finds a way to lose like auburn goes into every game, like, hey, watch this.

Speaker 1 You never thought we could lose this way. And then they lose.
Georgia Tech does the opposite where they just keep, and Brent Key's been awesome. And Haynes King, like, he's just a dog.

Speaker 1 He's not the most talented guy, but he's, I love college football because you can get a guy like Haynes King or Diego Pavia where it's like, this guy might not be, you know, some stud NFL player, but he, he just knows how to play college football.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I've been a big Haynes King fan for a while because he's just so incredibly tough. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He's pretty old now, too. So like you worry, like his knee is going to be hurting him

Speaker 6 the next day. And then, you know,

Speaker 6 there are times over the course of a season where sometimes watching can be worse for you. And I'll always reference the Iowa-Wisconsin game where when Iowa had that season.

Speaker 6 And Danny and I would argue about it all the time. And I'm like, this team should not be playing for a national championship.
Okay.

Speaker 6 They should not be in the conversation because I thought they were so gross and yet won every single week. And that Wisconsin game in particular, I watched that whole game.
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 6 I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 6 But that was just like one game.

Speaker 6 I watched the wake game because Robbie Ashford was out there, who I think the Robbie Ashford story is like one of the most incredible timelines in present-day college football.

Speaker 6 And then everybody would bring him in and be like, this guy's like a two-sport guy. He's nasty.
He got hurt in that game. Then he came back.

Speaker 6 They weren't able to win it double overtime. So I was like, all right, Georgia Tech's nice.
They always seem to outperform expectations.

Speaker 6 Key's record against ranked teams, especially when they're underdogs, is incredible.

Speaker 6 But sometimes that wake game,

Speaker 6 there's like a wake hangover for that one. But I mean, the rest of the way, it's Q's, it's NC State, BC, Pitt, and then we'll see what happens against Georgia.

Speaker 1 Pitt's been playing better, by the way.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like the Louisville call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, if Louisville's only loss is three points to Virginia, who's really good. And Miller Moss is good.
Like, I think you can make an argument that Miller Moss was kind of like

Speaker 6 I don't know enough about the SC situation, but was the fall guy for that team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 To your point about the meaty good earlier, the like 25 to 40 ranked teams in America. How many of those would come from the American?

Speaker 4 Because that conference right there, if we're talking like group of five, the top of the American is insanely good right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 They got Navy, South Florida, Tulane, Memphis, and North Texas. And any one of those teams could make the playoff.

Speaker 1 I love North Texas. They just score.

Speaker 6 That's all they have. Yeah, I think all these teams are really good.

Speaker 6 East Carolina's good too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, put it on Carolina, Coastal Carolina, earlier this year. I remember I was listening to a gambling show, just driving around, and this guy was like, coastal sucks.
Everybody, no one understands.

Speaker 6 Like, this team isn't any good. He's like, I'm hammering ECU.
And I didn't know anything. Like, and I'm just in the car going, I don't think I've ever heard anyone more confident about a pick.

Speaker 6 Because it was like getting through all the picks and all the headliner stuff. He's like, I got one for you.
And then, of course, I think I was like, he handed, I mean, they shut him out.

Speaker 6 And then I was looking at it the next week. And then it was like, are you going to be the moron that trails this the week after he made this pick? And I think Coastal covered the next week.

Speaker 6 And I was like, okay, that's sort of a win by not getting involved in any of it.

Speaker 6 Look, the American thing has had stories all season long, whether it's Memphis, Getting Arkansas, you know, at the goal line fumble with that game,

Speaker 6 South Florida, where, you know, there was a part where I'm kind of like arguing about SEC and some of the, you know, because it was always kind of funny, like if the SEC would lose a non-conference game, it's like, oh, hey, Russia, it just happens to me all the time.

Speaker 6 And it's like, hey, are you going to bed? Because there's still like three more games on tonight. Let's see how these go.

Speaker 6 So when Florida lost to South Florida, considering how the game played out too, and then a kick, it's like, you know what?

Speaker 6 South Florida is like a, like, it's not a terrible loss, even if it's a non-power for school.

Speaker 6 And then they get absolutely destroyed by Miami, which I think them beating Florida helped Miami kind of lock into that game there.

Speaker 6 And then Tulane, who has the revenge game against Duke, gets that win. So that top group has a bunch of really good wins.

Speaker 6 Where I would say, in years past, I get kind of frustrated about teams getting through a conference like that and then being allowed to play for a national championship because I just don't think that it's well, because it isn't.

Speaker 6 It's not an opinion. It's not the same exercise to have to play 12 games in a conference like that.
But to your point, the top half of it is

Speaker 6 really strong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you were to pick one conference, if you were to say, okay, the Big Ten is going to win the national championship. The SEC is going to win.
Which one would you bet on?

Speaker 6 Oh, it's Big Ten.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 6 I don't.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And look, I'm not saying it's impossible. Bama's growing into something, but Bama gets a lot of the carryover of Bama.
It's like, dude, it's been a couple of years now.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 6 Like, it's not, you've got the Millro loss against Michigan in the playoffs. Again, it's all not on Millrow.

Speaker 6 They come back last year. They lose three games.
They're a mess. Ty Simpson, you know, to his credit in that Florida State ass kicking, I thought he was like fighting the whole game.

Speaker 6 So I did take a positive out of that. I'm like, this is just an awful three hours for Ty Simpson running around as Florida State looks like world beaters.

Speaker 6 So they're going to have this loss that looks terrible considering what Florida State's going through right now.

Speaker 6 But, you know, teams are allowed to grow and get better or get worse, which I think is kind of overlooked at times. So I feel like Alabama is rounding into shape here more.

Speaker 6 And even with the loss, resume-wise, it looks worse than obviously A ⁇ M's clean sheet. But I probably like Tennessee more than I like Georgia, to be honest with you.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Their defense, though, man.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but that Georgia defense isn't. Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 It's just all the SEC teams. The SEC is the new Big 12.

Speaker 4 Tennessee's defense wasn't necessarily the problem on Saturday. It was the pick pick six at the end of the first half against Alabama.

Speaker 4 That's the worst possible thing that can happen to a football team.

Speaker 9 That's it.

Speaker 4 That's what it is. Like one yard line, two yard line.
You're about to make it, what, like a two-point game. And then pick six as there's zero seconds left on the clock in that first half.

Speaker 4 There's no way that Tennessee was coming back from that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just think they're, I don't know. I don't trust it.
Like Alabama hasn't been able to run the ball this year and they still, they, you know, they were able to find something against Tennessee.

Speaker 6 But I'm telling you, that Hill kid, I don't know how many carries he can get, but I thought he was a big story.

Speaker 6 And McElroy is always all over it, too, because of the Alabama part of it. But he was moving bodies around.

Speaker 6 And, you know, it kind of drives me crazy sometimes when these college teams will have like two projected first-round tackles, or tackles can be a little different.

Speaker 6 But like, say, like, one side of the line has a couple NFL guys. You're like, how can you not run the football to that side of the field? Yeah.
Yeah. What's going on here?

Speaker 6 And it's a bit like, not to bring them up again, but LSU having four of their offensive offensive linemen from 24 drafted.

Speaker 6 And I was like, I thought that group as a unit wasn't even that good last year. And then four guys got drafted.
So maybe, maybe I'm wrong about it.

Speaker 6 I'm trying to think of who else here because, you know, sometimes I get a little too married to the number. I was really impressed with BYU against Utah.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 Agreed. I thought it was a little scheduledy with them.
You know, they finally played somebody. Although the more I watch Dan Pierre with Utah, I think it limits them.

Speaker 6 I think it was kind of a fun story in the beginning, but that was also UCLA before they hired New Hazel as the head coach.

Speaker 6 But, you know, look, that holy war, those teams hit the shit out of each other. But Bachmeier, like, he's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, and it's hard because I've, his older brother, I lost so much money gambling as he traveled around the country.

Speaker 4 And the number that pop up on a new

Speaker 1 team, and I would like week one, I'd just bet a team and be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 I bet on Hank Bachmeier again. But yeah, no, I was impressed with them.
I also, I still like Oklahoma's, the problem with Oklahoma is their schedule is just so ridiculous. But their defense is good.

Speaker 1 I'm a big Mater guy. I do think he came back too fast against Texas.
But like, if they can somehow, they just play so many hard teams.

Speaker 1 They finished their schedule or miss at Tennessee, at Alabama, Missouri, LSU. Like,

Speaker 1 that's a murderous row, but if they somehow finish it three and two, I don't know. And there's, you know, the three-loss conversation comes in.

Speaker 1 Their resume would be up there with anyone else.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and Ohio State's got Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, and then Michigan. So, you know, I can see how people look at the Big Ten and go.

Speaker 1 Oh, stop.

Speaker 1 Oh, we've made such good, such good headway. All right.
I got, I got one last question. Again, by the way, if you're listening, can I try?

Speaker 12 At least, hold on.

Speaker 6 Should we at least mention Notre Dame with this? Because I know you already brought him up. You're absolutely right.
Carr is good. And look, love.

Speaker 6 However, you want to just talk about like football players. Yes.
Jeremy Bernard's one of my favorite football players in all college football receiver for Alabama.

Speaker 6 Like every time he gets something out to the sideline, it's like a five-yard gain and then the guy has the angle on him and he goes to tackle him.

Speaker 6 And it's like, guess who's still standing up on the sideline? It's Jeremy Bernard. Like the guy's nuts.
Love for Notre Dame. I don't think there's 10 better football players in college than him.

Speaker 6 Again, I'm not talking about draft picks.

Speaker 6 or the scarcity or the importance of the position or whatever, but like every time that kid gets going, I'm like, I don't think there's that many players that are playing on Saturdays that that are better than he is.

Speaker 1 He should be Heisman. I mean, what he did was special.
He should be Heisman.

Speaker 6 Dude, how about the Heisman stuff right now? Like, who the hell is going to win?

Speaker 1 So, you know what I'm hoping for? Because Jeremiah Love was my Heisman pick before the season. No, I wanted it.

Speaker 1 I really want Jeremiah Love to get almost identical to Ash and Genti's numbers and then just be like, we fucked up last year, guys. We got to make it right.
We got to vote Jeremiah Love this year.

Speaker 1 He's not going to get to his numbers, but he does have a soft schedule at the end. And also, Notre Dame, by the way, I said it after they started 0-2.

Speaker 1 I was like, they're actually in the exact same spot they were last year because the Northern Illinois loss was one loss. This is two losses to playoff teams.
They're going to run the table.

Speaker 1 They're going to figure it out. They're going to be in the playoff.
And I think more than that, they're a legit, very, very good team now where it's not just, oh, they played a soft schedule.

Speaker 1 They figured some stuff out. And they lost with a freshman quarterback on the road week one in Miami and then lost with a fucked up kick against Texas AM, who's undefeated.

Speaker 1 Notre Dame is good. Notre Dame is good.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the NC State game was kind of like a weird slow start. And then once they've given up a ton of points to Purdue, because I was in the same boat as everybody else, but again, I think we

Speaker 6 do it far too often. It's like, okay, they have these two good losses.
We all agreed that Carr was good. We felt good about Carr after losses, which is an okay thing to do.

Speaker 6 The same way I felt great about Howard and the loss against Oregon last year, because I didn't really know what to make of him coming over from K-State.

Speaker 6 And then even losing, I go, you know what, though, they have something in Howard here. So, they're going to be okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I think the same thing, you know, even though Howard had a longer resume of games that we'd seen him play in,

Speaker 6 CJ being new, that Miami game was like, hey, this looked like everything was working against him. And now he's got this team back into this whole thing.

Speaker 6 But there were then, after we just go, hey, they're going to be favored against the next 10 opponents.

Speaker 6 It's like, okay, but it's we're acting like it's way too easy to be like, okay, they'll just have to go 10-0 now. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Having said that, even with how come the defense is a little weird, they look like they could have scored 100 points against Arkansas. Yep.

Speaker 6 And yeah, the NC State game was kind of like a weird start to the whole thing, but there's just a lot that I really like. And it starts with Love at Running Back.

Speaker 6 And, you know, it's kind of a two-headed monster there.

Speaker 6 So the offense is fine. I don't know if the defense will be as good as,

Speaker 6 I mean, what are we talking about? Elite defenses right now. Two teams?

Speaker 6 Ohio State and Indiana?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, AM has some really good stats, you know, but I don't,

Speaker 6 I don't know. Yeah.
You know, and then, you know, coming off the Arkansas game, it makes it, it's a tough case to make that AM's defense is the level of those other two big 10 teams. I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Ryan, everyone subscribe. New podcast coming out November 3rd.

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Speaker 1 Who's going to win the NBA title?

Speaker 6 I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 6 There's no reason to pick against OKC. They're going to be even better.
Chet will be better. He'll probably play more games.
I mean, he missed like 50 games last year.

Speaker 6 Jalen Williams, even though he's got this issue that he's dealing with and isn't going to be in the opener tonight, he likely would be better. Wallace will be better.
They've got Toe Pitch.

Speaker 6 They're just going to be better. So it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 6 Anybody that wants to pick them, I'm like, hey, that's great. I just wanted, I picked them last year.
I want to do something a little different this year. So I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 4 Okay, and in the East, how big of a disappointment would it be if the 76ers did not make the NBA Finals this year? Good question.

Speaker 1 Wait, how big of a disappointment?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 If they're like a 48-50-win team and Embiid's healthy and they're ready to go, and like, look, he's never gotten out of the second round.

Speaker 6 So an Easter Conference finals appearance for that team would be a huge win. So I wouldn't, if they didn't get through the East, down here, be like, oh, hey, that's...

Speaker 6 No, I wouldn't be like, hey, that's a real huge disappointment. They weren't able to get through it.
I would.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's the MVP.

Speaker 4 He won an MVP. It's a down year for the East.
You've got a lot of superstars injured that would be on teams that would be in their way, teams that have bounced him out of the playoffs in the past.

Speaker 4 This, to me, is as open as it's ever going to be for the Sixers.

Speaker 6 Cleveland's really good, and I know that they don't have the playoff success, but

Speaker 6 that team won 64 games last year. DeAndre Hunter, coming over to the trade, only played 27 with him.
It's the most expensive team in the league, so it's got to work out this year.

Speaker 6 And I know Mitchell has probably more playoff disappointments, but if you look at his individual stuff and what he's been able to do, like this is all time.

Speaker 6 Like when he cranks it up in a playoff game, like he can kind of hang with almost like anyone historically from a scoring standpoint. So I am so down on the Sixers

Speaker 6 that I can't sit here and say if they don't get to the NBA Finals, this is a massively disciplined game. Like just writing the ship.

Speaker 6 and then being competitive and being that would mean that they that Cleveland, New York, or Orlando, two of those three teams are out and Philly's playing one of those.

Speaker 6 Just that would be, I think, a massive, massive successful season for who the Sixers have been here the last couple years.

Speaker 4 I just believe in the Sixers a little bit more than yeah, I guess. I'm going to pick them.
It's, yeah, I'm going to, I think Sixers in the East easily.

Speaker 1 No, this is in a bit, Max.

Speaker 11 You got to know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 This is crazy that it's gone this long, and then you've taken this as a serious question.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Barstool, Ryan. You stop pranks.

Speaker 6 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 They're just making fun of me. Yeah, we're just.

Speaker 4 We're setting Max up. We're setting him up for ultimate disappointment.

Speaker 6 Max, you don't think this team's going to be any good, do you? No.

Speaker 1 That's why that's the whole, that's the whole.

Speaker 11 If they got to the Eastern Conference Finals, that would be great.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. Oh, man.

Speaker 6 Because PFT's like a big NFL guy. Huge.
So I was like, maybe he's just not

Speaker 6 honed.

Speaker 4 No, I'm a Josh Harris guy. And Josh Harris, he owns the Sixers.
So that's what he does. He gets to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 6 I like Josh Harris. And if you hire Bob Myers, who's one of the single most impressive human beings I've ever encountered,

Speaker 6 then

Speaker 6 it's a high-ranking. Who's your most impressive human being you've ever met?

Speaker 1 Stanford Steve.

Speaker 4 He's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 Drinking next to Stanford Steve is that's, yeah. I mean, he's got a hollow leg.

Speaker 4 He might be my most impressive dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's number one dude.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but Bob Myers, that's an impressive man.

Speaker 6 i've seen steve drunk once and i've drank a lot with him yep yep well there was only one time where i'm like wait are you is your equilibrium off right now like you're always so stay i mean like that's not even it he'll have some random play for you and be like what are you against the spread this year be like oh 11 and 2 on saturdays yeah yeah

Speaker 6 yeah stanford steve's a pretty good pick to caprio bob myers or stanford steve you can't go wrong with any of those three no that's a good that's a good trio who knows leo might be a distant third and hanging out, although the water gun fights look fun.

Speaker 1 Also, you haven't spent enough time with White Sox Dave yet, which we'll fix. So he could be easily in your top three soon.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, that's definitely.

Speaker 6 There's some like video-only stuff that we've talked to Pornoy about doing, and I was like, whatever I do, White Sock Dave, White Sox Dave, White Sox Dave, just want to be in it.

Speaker 6 Maybe like a long-form thing or even a travel show. Oh,

Speaker 1 travel shows Donnie.

Speaker 4 He goes to Turkey.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but White Sox Dave was like, we can go to Michigan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about Nikki Smokes? You can go to a dive bar that's not a dive bar.

Speaker 1 The possibilities are endless here at Barstore.

Speaker 1 Maybe get Ben Mintz to show you around Baton Rouge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mincey, you on, you, you, Mincy is looking for someone to videotape him going to

Speaker 1 Mexico for widespread panic New Year's. It's four nights.
I think you're the guy for the job.

Speaker 6 That's also in my contract.

Speaker 1 No, Ben admins.

Speaker 6 It's just like, I don't want to ruin what it is for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't want it to be real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Oh, it's real.

Speaker 6 I like being a voyeur.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Everyone subscribe.
Ryan, his first new pod's coming out November 3rd with Sarudi and Kyle.

Speaker 6 And please subscribe everywhere you get pods.

Speaker 1 Number one. Number one subscribe.
I like it pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I've always wanted to do that tweet, and I will say goodbye here, but

Speaker 6 we have a lot of friends that, you know, they launch the new feed, and then the new feed is up.

Speaker 6 And then, if you have any subscriber growth, which is usually pretty easy to accomplish when it starts at zero to whatever the new thing is, the Apple show rankings like just get, they freak out.

Speaker 6 They freak out. And so, there's been a few people that have suggested that it's real.
So, I was like, when it happens to me, because I knew it was going to happen.

Speaker 6 I was like, I'm going to post, oh my God, I'm number one, with part of my take. It's so clearly number one in sports.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Like, they're so number one that I'm offended when other people do it because of you guys. I'm offended for you, not even for me.

Speaker 6 So I was like, when I go to number one, and then I went to like, in the middle of the hostage release, I was like ahead of the New York Times.

Speaker 6 I don't think that's accurate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 All categories.

Speaker 6 Yeah. All categories.
I was like right up there with the heavy hitters. And it also just reminds me of like some of the people that don't even understand that they're not number one.

Speaker 6 So it's like the people that know they're not number one and then mislead the public. And then the next tier is the person that has no idea that they actually aren't number one.

Speaker 6 And they're like, holy shit, I'm number one in comedy. And you're like, you're not.

Speaker 6 You're not. So I always wanted to post that when I knew it was going to happen to me to be like, hey, I'm number one.
And then be like, I'm actually not number one.

Speaker 6 And this is why it shows that I'm number one. But it's going to do all right.

Speaker 4 I think the rumors that you were romantically linked with Sabrina Carpenter, those helped. Yeah.
Like that's that helps new heights. What if you guys were an item? You'd probably be number one.

Speaker 6 Yeah, look, when

Speaker 6 i like the kelseys but that relationship probably cost me so much money i'll pay

Speaker 6 you guys i'm fucking kidding we should sue taylor swift same

Speaker 6 because you were just like oh this is kind of a funny little thing yeah and then you know you're like oh what oh shit and they're playing in the super bowl against each other yeah jesus christ and i'm a free agent while this is happening and now they're getting engaged and now she got her masters back i'm like slow down the content train like Like, my deal's up here.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 I was like, you know, I don't know what to do here. And my agent's like, is there anything you can do? And I was like, I'd probably not date somebody like that.

Speaker 6 And he's just like, well, not with that fucking attitude.

Speaker 1 Come on, Ryan.

Speaker 4 You're a catch.

Speaker 6 You know, if

Speaker 6 you're just going through the madmen roster of like, who was in this that I could DM?

Speaker 6 They'll not see me, but he'd be like, you know what? I really loved this in season four when you, all right.

Speaker 1 All right, Ryan, you're the best. Everyone subscribe.

Speaker 1 And we are, there's talks. I was texting with Saruti.
There's talks of maybe figuring out a time when we can get your three boys in here to maybe do a Thursday night football stream or something.

Speaker 1 So we'll figure that out.

Speaker 6 Yeah, can't wait. We will do that.
We'll get to Chicago. I know Kyle is really excited about it.

Speaker 6 And he's the only person I've ever met that desperately, desperately wanted to move back to Poughkeepsie, New York.

Speaker 6 And he, you know, this allowed him to get to move home. And the guy loves his family and he wanted to be near his family.
So he got to move home.

Speaker 6 And so part of it, I was like, well, you can move to Chicago if you want. And he was like,

Speaker 6 well, does that mean Poughkeepsie's off the table?

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 6 totally on the table. Because

Speaker 6 he didn't want to live in L.A. So he gets to go home, but he'll be in Chicago.
So thanks, guys. Thanks for everything.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks, Ryan.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got FAQs, Henry.

Speaker 8 First time, long time. Oh, what the...

Speaker 1 Oh, no. No, no, what happened?

Speaker 8 What is the story behind trying to spoil the Sopranos for Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually. Just do tell.
Well,

Speaker 9 Hank. They're just bad people.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, Hank. No, I'll tell a story.

Speaker 8 I was 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 That PFT talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 I started watching the Sopranos, and I was like, I'm

Speaker 8 not the Sopranos, guys. Okay, so now you're gatekeeping when a person can watch or not watch a show.
No. That's fucked up.
That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 You can't expect there to be no spoilers.

Speaker 4 It's 10 years late.

Speaker 1 Like, spoilers happen

Speaker 1 early in life.

Speaker 8 I told you guys privately I was watching a show, and then you guys decided to not tell me privately, spoilers, on the podcast that I was producing that we had to record, so I could not, literally could not avoid it.

Speaker 8 Okay. You said it into the mic that I would then have to listen to in real time and then listen to again.

Speaker 1 Well, to be fair, Hank, I thought that you knew that...

Speaker 4 Adriana was a wretched. I don't know.
That Christopher turned her into the FBI and he said that he was just going to go out for a while and they were going to move away.

Speaker 4 And then she she got picked up in a car and taken to the woods and shopped. We thought that you knew that already.
I'd like to say that.

Speaker 8 I did, but no, you knew I didn't know that because I told you where I was in the watching.

Speaker 4 I'd like to see that I was not at all. I thought you knew that Sylvia was going to pick her up and be like, we're going to the hospital and then take her to the woods.

Speaker 1 Can I say something?

Speaker 1 Please, Hank? I guess, yeah.

Speaker 8 Fine.

Speaker 1 The way you just explained it, I want to say that's really fucked up on us and we're assholes.

Speaker 1 Like, hearing it back, that was fucked up

Speaker 4 we are it was a segment on the show like called spoilers we're assholes that's not true that's not true

Speaker 1 you just invented that you guys would do it you guys would just weave them into the show like for for weeks it wasn't a one-time no no no no we're we're bad people and uh we took something like when bobby bacala was with his train set and he got whacked like we took something you loved and then we killed you right in front of it i never finished it so i don't i didn't love it i was like i'm liking this show and then you spoiled it for me.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Our bad. Our bad.

Speaker 4 I think we're just talking about pop culture on this show.

Speaker 1 It's not like we ran over your head, like Philioto's head.

Speaker 8 It popped. I don't know what that means.

Speaker 4 His head popped. It was crazy in a gas station.

Speaker 1 What do you want us to do? Suck your dick?

Speaker 8 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 Like Vito? In the whole season that he was gay? Sure. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's still mad about this. Our bad.

Speaker 4 He's still very upset. And we do sound like dude.

Speaker 1 There's no telling of the story that doesn't make PFT and I look like assholes.

Speaker 9 There's not.

Speaker 11 I like how you tried to apologize there, and Hank was like, I don't know why you're apologizing. And then PFT said one more thing, and then he just ignored what you said about apologizing.

Speaker 1 Pretending to be mad at him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Listen, Hank, if you're going to get it spoiled by somebody, you'd want it to be somebody that you knew and trusted, like when Tony went after his Steve Bushimi and waited for him with a shotgun outside his house.

Speaker 9 His cousin, yeah.

Speaker 1 Steve Steve Bushimi was in Soprano. Yeah, fresh out of gym.

Speaker 4 He tried to become a massage therapist afterwards. He tried to go straight, but it wasn't working out for him.
He had a rage pick. He fell back on that life.

Speaker 4 And then Tony found out he was going off the handle and doing jobs for other crews. And then Tony was like, if someone's going to kill him, it should be me.
Yeah. That's how we felt about it.

Speaker 4 We didn't want some random person online to spoil it for you. So we did it ourselves.

Speaker 11 Do you think there's anyone right now who's listening to Soprano or watching Sopranos for the first time?

Speaker 1 Spoiler.

Speaker 4 No, every time I sprinkle one in, I get one person be like, What the fuck? Oh, this was a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this was a lot of spring. This was a lot of spoilers.

Speaker 1 This is a lot.

Speaker 11 You could just ruin it.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we might have just fucked out, like, Carmella fucked

Speaker 4 James T-Tray.

Speaker 8 Sup, PMT, guys. Appreciate all that you guys do.
If you weren't doing the pod or anything with Barstool, period, what career do you think you guys would have?

Speaker 1 Hating my life.

Speaker 4 I would,

Speaker 4 I think I would have gone back to the used dog game. I think that would have been a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I try not to think about that because at this point we're so far down this hole that it's like we don't really have any skills that would transfer over to a real job.

Speaker 1 I am, in terms of the real world, I am

Speaker 1 so fucking stupid. I don't know what I would do.
Yeah. You're telling me? Sitting in a meeting,

Speaker 1 typing things, logging on things. These are things I don't have any ability to do anymore.

Speaker 4 Logging on to Teams. Oh.

Speaker 11 I almost wanted to be an accountant.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 No offense to accountants.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 4 No, it's an offensive.

Speaker 1 I'm so far down the line of like,

Speaker 1 I'm just a stupid, stupid person now.

Speaker 4 I may be the least proficient person in Excel in the world.

Speaker 1 Have you gotten dumber? Yeah.

Speaker 8 I can never work a real job.

Speaker 9 Right. At this point.

Speaker 4 It's too late. Burned the boats.

Speaker 1 Remember my life. Freshman year.

Speaker 8 I don't think I would have ended up working a real job when I started working here, but now I definitely would not be able to.

Speaker 1 I will say there are some times that I kind of

Speaker 1 there's I don't want to shit on people who are sitting in an office right now because there's parts of it that are

Speaker 1 like we never get to turn it off like going to games having weekends where you don't have to you know be glued to everything

Speaker 4 That's what I like about the Monday Night Football games. I know the standalone you get to just kind of chill on the Shout out to all the hardworking people out there.

Speaker 1 Thank you for listening. We didn't mean to.
We were more shitting on Max to be an accountant. Max would be the worst accountant.
You'd go to jail if you've hired him too. Terrible accountant.

Speaker 11 I just got like one good grade in an accounting class freshman year, and I was like, maybe, maybe I could be an accountant, make decent money.

Speaker 4 Do you know how to use a spreadsheet?

Speaker 11 At the time,

Speaker 11 I was okay.

Speaker 1 Now, no. We're just so far gone.
I'm so far gone.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm out of that.

Speaker 1 Even having a formal meeting with anyone is just uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 I've aged out of the workforce. Can you imagine logging into Microsoft Teams or whatever every month?

Speaker 1 I don't know how to use anything.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Slack.

Speaker 1 I use three things on my computer.

Speaker 8 I'd be Slack. We use Slack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys do. They do Slack.
They slack.

Speaker 1 They talk shit about us on Slack.

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 1 Oh, memes?

Speaker 1 A little bit? No, no, no. No.
What would you do, memes? You're an accountant.

Speaker 1 Counts receivable.

Speaker 1 Accounts receivable. What is that? That sounds like accounting.
See, I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 part of accounting. It's the money that comes in.
When we started Stella Blue, I remember I sat in a meeting and they were talking about P ⁇ L.

Speaker 1 And I had to pull someone aside after. I was like, hey, they keep saying that shit.
What does that mean? It's profits and losses.

Speaker 4 So accounts deliverable is what?

Speaker 4 That's paying people?

Speaker 4 Memes?

Speaker 1 You said accounts deliverable? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Receivable? No, deliverable.

Speaker 1 There's accounts payable and there's accounts receivable. Which one were you? Accounts receivable.
So you're coming in. Accounts payable is money going out.
You're getting money?

Speaker 1 You're getting money? You're getting something in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 We're breaking people's brains.

Speaker 4 Accounts receivable is for the Diva accountants.

Speaker 1 Wait, you were getting money in? You were just counting the money that was coming in?

Speaker 1 You were just counting it? Yeah, just counting it all.

Speaker 4 Do bosses like the people in that department more than they like the people in the accounts payable?

Speaker 1 Because, like,

Speaker 4 these are my I get money guys.

Speaker 1 Like, these are.

Speaker 1 They like everybody the same. These are jobs I don't even.

Speaker 1 I've gotten so stupid, functionally stupid, that when you ask what jobs would you be, I'm like, firefighter, astronaut, major league baseball player. I don't know what an accounts receivable is.

Speaker 1 I'm sure we have it here.

Speaker 1 Okay, good question.

Speaker 8 Who smells the best?

Speaker 4 I would guess maybe Zach. Zach, you a cologne guy? Wait, I didn't have to.

Speaker 10 I'm not a huge cologne guy. No, I'm just a soap guy, deodorant guy.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I smell pretty good. I have some cologne I wear.

Speaker 1 I got on Gruden's cologne.

Speaker 10 Oh, The Creed? Yeah. It's good.

Speaker 1 It's good shit.

Speaker 4 I've started to take a little cologne in the mornings. I wouldn't say that we're a particularly great smelling crew.

Speaker 1 I don't think we're bad. I think we're neutral.
We're a neutral smelling podcast.

Speaker 4 I would argue that's the best.

Speaker 11 That's the best place to be. Sometimes when guys smell too good, it's like,

Speaker 1 what are you trying to do? No, I do

Speaker 1 one smell good yeah i do one spritz of cologne on my when i get out of the shower on with no shirt on so that way because i do think that if you spray it on your shirt it becomes too much yeah so i just like to have a little bit of it on my body and then you know a faint hint of it do you ever put it on your wrist nah because i feel like that's too much yeah it's too much you don't want to be a too much cologne guy you know who the best smelling person i've ever met in real life is Never in a million years.

Speaker 8 I do.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, I probably shouldn't have. Jerry is number one.
No, no.

Speaker 4 Out of all the people that we've met doing this show, there's one person that smells far and away better than any other celebrity I've ever met.

Speaker 4 And I guarantee you, 0% of the people that are listening to this will guess it correctly.

Speaker 1 Okay, give it to me.

Speaker 4 It's Carrot Top. Oh.
Carrot Top smells incredible. Wow.

Speaker 1 I would not have guessed that. No.

Speaker 4 And it was shocking to the point where I was asking other people, like, hey, you smelling this guy? They're like, yeah, he smells amazing. He was doing a live celebrity dozen with us.

Speaker 4 I think that was in Vegas, right? And I asked him, I was like, Carrot Top, what is that smell that you have? And he would not tell me. He said he has his own custom cologne

Speaker 4 just for him that he wears. And it's, listen, it delivers.
Whatever he pays for it, it works. You guys know what they make cologne out of? Perfume?

Speaker 4 What are you going to say?

Speaker 1 Like, dog asshole?

Speaker 4 Pretty much. Oh, shit.
Whale shit.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 They make cologne out of whale shit.

Speaker 1 Why are you looking at assets, liabilities, and owner's equity?

Speaker 11 I said, remember I said assets? I was like, I'm pretty sure there's some sort of equation with assets, and I was right.

Speaker 11 But accounts receivable part of assets.

Speaker 1 We're stupid.

Speaker 1 Idiot jazz.

Speaker 1 That it? That's it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good show, guys.

Speaker 1 Good show.

Speaker 1 Numbers. Three.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that was Hank.

Speaker 1 What do we got?

Speaker 11 Pugs making the decision.

Speaker 1 That'd be track number seven. That'd be me.
Oh,

Speaker 1 damn.

Speaker 4 You fucked him up. You fucked him up, memes.

Speaker 1 Hug off like 10. You should have gone 99.

Speaker 4 Officer Ferretto when he thought that he killed his horse. 33.
And we'll never know. Look at 25.
22.

Speaker 1 And I'll wait till Jack takes it.

Speaker 10 7.

Speaker 10 What do you think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 44. Ah.

Speaker 1 99, Pug.

Speaker 10 86.

Speaker 4 What do you have, 50? 37.

Speaker 4 Anybody else take 37?

Speaker 6 I take 33.

Speaker 6 Let's see three.

Speaker 1 53.

Speaker 1 53? Anyone? Anyone? 53.

Speaker 1 Anyone? One more, real quick? These same numbers?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 real quick. Real quick, same numbers.
Same numbers. Same numbers.
Who's going to fucking win?

Speaker 11 No, you're going to get it.

Speaker 1 You're going to do that. You have to do multiple numbers.
This is good for you.

Speaker 1 This is good for you.

Speaker 11 Like, Hank wasn't getting these many pulls. Yes, he was.

Speaker 1 That's facts. He literally did one when he did one.

Speaker 1 55. 55.
55. No one.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.