Overtime – Episode #691: Steve Bannon, Piers Morgan, Josh Rogin

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Speaker 6 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Maher.

Speaker 7 All right, he was the White House Chief Strategist and now hosts the War Room podcast, Steve Bannon.

Speaker 7 He's global security analyst for Washington Post and Television and author of Chaos Under Heaven, Josh Rogan, and he hosts Kiers Morgan uncensored on YouTube, Kiers Morgan.

Speaker 7 All right, here are the questions from the people.

Speaker 8 What does the panel think about reports that the Trump administration plans to hold a military parade

Speaker 8 on the 250th anniversary of the Army's founding, which also happens to be Trump's birthday.

Speaker 8 Oh, goody, tanks in the streets, huh?

Speaker 8 Is that a good thing, do you think, to see this is fantastic, though.

Speaker 5 Yeah, government efficiency at work, right?

Speaker 9 That's what we're spending our defense dollars on. Is it parading a bunch of people?

Speaker 4 It's a way to inspire people, as you know, Josh, young men and women, to join the military, to see the pageantry like they do in France with Macron, that great July 14th, Bastille Day.

Speaker 8 Was there tanks in the street?

Speaker 5 There were tanks. They do everything.

Speaker 5 We do it in the UK all the time. All the time.

Speaker 4 Tanks in the streets.

Speaker 5 It's always been surprising to me you don't do it. Yeah, Kim Jong-un loves it.
Kim Jong-un. Russia does it too? Yeah, yeah.
Putin, Xi Jinping.

Speaker 5 Bill, what do you think?

Speaker 8 I don't want America to get used to the sight of tanks in the streets.

Speaker 8 That's what I don't.

Speaker 8 Because once you see it, it becomes normalized.

Speaker 8 What's behind the church-going revival in the UK, particularly among Gen Z? Is that true? Are you

Speaker 5 cursed? If you saw the state of our country right now, there's a lot to go and pray about.

Speaker 5 Probably nothing more sinister than that.

Speaker 8 That's it?

Speaker 5 I know anything about it.

Speaker 8 Kids are getting more religious. Is that what's going on?

Speaker 5 Well, I don't know. I didn't actually know that was a fact, but

Speaker 5 I mean, church going generally has been going down.

Speaker 9 My daughter's too. Her only religion is bluey.

Speaker 8 Thank God I don't have kids.

Speaker 8 What does the panel think of Jeff Bezos' company, Blue Origin, sending an all-female crew?

Speaker 8 And yes, Katie Perry and Lauren Chen says, and Gail King, I know them all, love them all, hope they're all safe, I'm sure they will be, to space next week.

Speaker 8 Is there any scientific merit to this mission?

Speaker 5 Yes. No, but you know what? I just think people that knock any form of exploration.

Speaker 5 You know, when I was born in 1965, the first thing I can really remember as an existent human being was the excitement around the rockets going up, right? And then it sort of stopped.

Speaker 5 And you kind of thought, well, I'll be going backwards. I mean, exploration, space travel, the bulls frontier.

Speaker 8 Katie Perry is not exploring space. No, I know.

Speaker 5 I know, but...

Speaker 5 I wouldn't go up there, would you? Would you go up there?

Speaker 8 Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't do it in a million years. I admire the bulls.
No.

Speaker 8 You should be cheering them off. No, I'm sure it'll be safe.

Speaker 8 But it's just, I wouldn't go skydiving either. No.
My agreement. There's just no reason.

Speaker 9 Jeff Bezos is my boss, and I support him.

Speaker 5 You toady little crawler.

Speaker 5 After all the lectures you gave us out.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't have to get tired today. I'm not trying to get fired.

Speaker 5 That's a total you've seen. The tomb is, Joshi.
You get close to them and they start to take over.

Speaker 9 Guess what, America? Guess what, America? We're all part of the same hypocrisy.

Speaker 9 Including Steve,

Speaker 9 including myself.

Speaker 5 We're all too. Keep me out of it.
Yeah. Too late.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Too late.

Speaker 5 You're in it. You're in it.

Speaker 8 You're in it. Yeah, no we here.

Speaker 8 I'm going to ask a question.

Speaker 8 Mike Huckabee, you remember him? Yes, sir. He is now the ambassador to Israel.
Mike Huckabee, we've had him on the show. If you don't remember, he was the governor of Arkansas.

Speaker 8 You know, a very religious man yeah and I'm sure they're sending him to Israel because he's a great friend of Israel I have a problem with this you know why people like that are friends with Israel because when you know who comes back right

Speaker 9 the Jews have got to rule earth under hell right that's the that's the or they all die or they all die either way it's not really a great deal for Jesus saves 144,000 Jews right

Speaker 5 that's not a lot of Jews I don't think I'm gonna make

Speaker 5 think I'm going to make the honesty.

Speaker 8 I'm not a

Speaker 8 very observant. Super duper Christians love Israel.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm just saying. And now he's.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 8 Low-flow showers.

Speaker 7 Trump is.

Speaker 5 I'm with Trump on this one. Yeah.

Speaker 9 No one likes a low-flow shower.

Speaker 5 That's an 80-20 issue.

Speaker 9 It's good politics as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 8 And daylight savings time.

Speaker 9 Now that one I don't like. That one I like to be light in the evening.
I'm not a morning person. For all the morning people out there, forget you.

Speaker 8 But getting rid of it, don't we have more light in the winter? Yeah, so that's what we want.

Speaker 9 If we get rid of daylight savings time, it gets dark early.

Speaker 8 No, no, no, no. What we do now is when it starts to get dark, we move it the wrong way.

Speaker 10 And now it's dark at like four in the afternoon.

Speaker 4 It's stupid.

Speaker 8 That's what he's, I think, trying to get it rid of, and the penny.

Speaker 5 He's right about all these things, I think.

Speaker 8 Well, it's just good politics to pick up no taxes on tips, all these little things that it's somewhat of a distraction from the ongoing activities.

Speaker 4 And raise taxes on the wealthy. He said it last week.
Is that coming?

Speaker 4 It's coming.

Speaker 9 But what about the tax cut for the wealthy? Isn't that coming?

Speaker 4 No, no, no. It's going to be extended.
He's not going to extend the tax cuts for the wealthy.

Speaker 4 No tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, and no tax on overtime.

Speaker 9 So you're saying all the donors are about to get a tax hike?

Speaker 4 They're already screaming. But he said he told the Senate that he's open to when the extending the tax, not extending.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, but he's already, I think, and Scott Besson, the Secretary of Treasury, I think, working on this, not to extend it to the upper bracket or make a new bracket of the taxes.

Speaker 9 And you think Congress is going to pass that, knowing who they get their money from?

Speaker 8 They do whatever he tells them to do.

Speaker 4 If President Trump comes in and says,

Speaker 5 he'll be able to do that.

Speaker 9 Okay, so

Speaker 9 the Steve Bennet plan is that Republicans are going to abandon the donor class, and then what's going to happen in 2022?

Speaker 4 Where else are they going to go?

Speaker 4 We've got total leverage over them. Where else are they going to go?

Speaker 9 Well, there's another election coming up.

Speaker 4 In In the midterms, and the thing, where else are they going to go?

Speaker 4 If you don't want to restore the economic viability of the working class and the middle class, and you have to do that by sealing the border, right,

Speaker 4 so it's not flooded with illegal alien labor. Number two is the tariffs will bring manufacturing jobs back.
And the third is that working class and middle class people need a tax cut.

Speaker 4 They need no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and most importantly, no tax on Social Security. That's another $500 billion a year we have to come up with.

Speaker 4 By the way, it's going to be be a huge fight.

Speaker 4 But Democrats and progressives had control in 2021 in those first hundred days, and they put up a note taxing the billionaires, and it didn't even get out of committee.

Speaker 4 President Trump and the MAGA movement will raise taxes on the wealthy.

Speaker 9 Do you believe that when the tariffs cause huge inflation, that the lower

Speaker 5 cost are not going to reward the Republicans for that?

Speaker 9 All the prices go up? Because in 1890, when we had tariffs, the Republicans lost the House and the presidency because of the price.

Speaker 4 You should know this, Joshua, and anybody, because when we raised the tariffs on China in 1918, the prices came down.

Speaker 4 We didn't have any inflation in 19, and we had the highest tariffs we ever put on the Chinese.

Speaker 8 Hey, how about that dire wolf?

Speaker 8 That wasn't going to be

Speaker 8 the dire wolf. They brought back a species called the dire wolf that was extinct using DNA.
They hadn't a fossil.

Speaker 5 What could go wrong?

Speaker 8 I mean, what, well, it's just, I don't know. I mean, I can't.

Speaker 9 They're going to do the woolly mammoth mammoth next, you know. I think they made a movie about it.

Speaker 5 Don't knock it until they

Speaker 5 get it. A hundred years they bring back Bill Maher from a fossil.

Speaker 7 It's as great as that would be.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 9 they made a movie once about bringing back extinct species and the risk of future. It's called Jurassic Park.
Maybe you've all seen it.

Speaker 9 I never saw it. So maybe we shouldn't screw with science that much.

Speaker 8 But it's not a dinosaur, it's a wolf. Yeah, but it's a wolf.

Speaker 8 We know what it looks like.

Speaker 8 And Bobby Kennedy says it tastes like chicken.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 that's what it is. Thank you.

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