Overtime – Episode #494: Jay Inslee, Moby, Bakari Sellers, Bret Stephens, Kara Swisher

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, No, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Yeah, aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Maher.

Okay, here we are.

I'm out of hand for my partner here, Movie.

It's not out to do guys.

But we pressed him into service.

Okay, you had a question for the governor you said you wanted to ask.

Oh, climate change, which is going to destroy everything we know and love.

Animal agriculture is the third leading cause of climate change.

But when I asked Al Gore about it, he said that the role of animal agriculture in climate change is the true inconvenient truth.

And I hear almost no one possibly.

It hasn't got enough, right?

At COP21.

Are you talking about the covenant?

Yeah, listen, I did my part.

Today I had an excellent impossible burger.

Yeah.

They're getting good.

Food that's 14 consumption.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we've got to look for new options scientifically to look at those things.

It is an important issue.

I think we need to engage the agricultural industry to figure out if there's a way to sequester carbon in topsoil and trees so that we can get carbon out of the atmosphere to do it.

And then we got to cheer up Bill, who seems to be a little down right now.

Bill, I just want to give you some good news.

I've now sued Donald Trump 21 times and I'm 21 and 0, so I just want to give you that.

He sued me once and I'm 1-0.

Okay.

What are your thoughts on Trump's recent attacks on abortion?

Will Roman versus Wade be upheld if challenged?

That's kind of a bummer.

Cara, why is the EU more willing to take action against big tech than the United States?

Because the person doing it is a woman who has a lot of backbone.

That's all it is?

It just one person.

They also have different ideas about privacy in Europe as opposed to here.

Same thing in Australia and New Zealand and other places.

So we'll see.

Brett, why do you find Bernie Sanders so threatening to democracy?

Is he as bad as Trump?

Well,

I think a guy who took his honeymoon in the Soviet Union, praised Castro, praised Ortega and Nicaragua, those guys are dictators who've been repressing human rights in their countries for ages,

shouldn't be president, shouldn't be the standard bearer for the Democratic Party.

And listen,

nobody says capitalism is a perfect system.

Nobody says that we can't fix it.

But the idea that we want to go to something that looks like the economies of Europe today where unemployment is 10%,

I don't think that's a winner for the United States at all.

To answer the question, though, bluntly, no, Bernie Sanders is not as bad as Donald Trump.

No, no, of course no one thinks this.

No, no, no.

Okay.

Moby, do you...

Musicians have a responsibility to use their platforms to influence politics.

Well, that depends what type of music they're playing.

If they are inbred Republicans playing Country Western, then by all means they should not be politically engaged.

Otherwise, yeah, of course.

I mean, it helps that I'm like similar to you, like single income, no kids, no family.

So like the fact that I have no accountability to anyone gives me a sort of like,

like I'm at liberty to be involved in politics, where like if someone had like kids and family, I can understand them wanting to sort of like protect their career more.

But it does seem like in a different era, more musicians felt the responsibility to speak out about matters that matter in the world as opposed to now when you don't hear a lot of it.

You don't hear, I mean it's very light and it's it's very

all those young people.

The ASMR and the Xanax.

Okay.

Who would you want have wanted President, what would you have wanted President Trump to say to Putin during their phone call today?

On your entire financial enterprise, so that things actually hurt you for a change and their consequences.

Governor,

what would you do if you were running against anybody in the Democratic field or a Republican opponent and China or Russia came to you and said, we've found them with a baby goat, or they've had some incriminating evidence against them doing something?

What's the thing that you should do?

I would put down the phone and I would call the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

That's what I would do.

And

there's no excuse for otherwise.

And I think the fact it here is we got hung up and Donald Trump is hid behind this word of collusion and it is a false camouflage for the fact that he welcomed, wanted, and asked for the intrusion of the Russian nation in our interference.

He did it on live television.

And he is now hid behind this word.

But that's meaningful.

But you know, wait, just the one rule of Trader Club is you're not mean to your handler.

Right.

And by the way, besides doing great things for the environment, if we got off oil, a little side beneficiary of that, what would it do?

Kill Putin.

He gets all his money from oil.

Russia's got a whole fuck ton of oil.

We get off oil, Russia has no money to fuck around in the world.

You know, the governor made such an important point, which...

Look, the problem isn't what Trump may have done behind closed doors.

It's what he does in public every single day.

It's like you don't have to go and get a room when you're having sex in a convertible on Sunset Boulevard in broad daylight.

Like everyone can see

what is going on.

Well, just aspiring.

Mrs.

Robinson, this conversation is getting awkward.

Thank you very much, everybody.

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