Overtime - Episode #460: Polarized Politics, Border Control and Leaders in Environmentalism

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Ethan Hawke, the greatest generation has given society so much.

Has Hollywood seen its own greatest generation yet?

What do you mean?

I don't know what that means either.

The greatest, like, no, never mind.

Duncan Hunter, we know the Democrats are guilty of identity politics.

What responsibility should the left take for why politics are so polarized today?

I think when we found out, so Democrats had control of Congress for like 50 years, in 94, Newt Gingrich ended that.

I think once everybody figured out that anybody could win any election, that's what created the

massive polarity that we have now, where you have two different sides and either side can win any election, right?

Well, anybody can, but you must admit that the Republicans cheat more.

No, I don't have to admit that.

There's no way.

Voter suppression?

You don't think there's voter suppression in it?

How about in California with illegal immigrants being registered to vote and then voting?

Well, but that has been studied, and it's not true.

It is true.

Well, Trump says that with 3 million illegal votes do you think it's a vote?

I don't think he has his numbers right, but I think that it's a high number.

It's a high number?

It's a lower number.

It's not that high.

Is it up to a million?

I don't know.

I don't know the number.

We don't know the number.

But we know it's a problem.

What if it's one?

Well, I've seen it happen in San Diego.

I live on the border just south of here.

I mean, I live in San Diego on the border and they do register illegal immigrants to vote in our elections.

Speaking of the border.

Okay, speaking of the border,

let me ask a question about the border because we didn't get to this

We didn't get to this issue this week, and this is your district is right on the border, as you say.

Jeff Sessions announced this week we are having a very new policy and it doesn't look to me very American, and that is splitting up families at the border.

If a family of Mexican people are coming trying to get across the border, we're going to send the kid off in one direction and the mother to jail and put the baby in baby detention center.

Splitting up families.

That's not the same thing.

Yeah, let me tell you what you're saying.

Hey, great.

We found something in the green.

I'm going to get booed in one second.

We should send the whole family back.

Really, the whole family.

If the parents are here illegally, you don't separate the family.

You send the whole family back.

And if they want the kid to stay with a guardian or somebody here like someone that's already here in this country until they're 18 years old they can do that

i wouldn't split the family up i would send everybody back and say apply

the point of this policy is it just to to be as big a prick as we can to send the message you try to get to this country we'll split your family up that's how

maybe maybe

i'm glad you admit that okay

can i just ask congressman what about refugees what about people who actually are fleeing dangerous circumstances don't we have a tradition of opening our border to the population?

I've been working for five or six years to help.

We've been working really hard to try to get people that are translators in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, name your place, that have helped with the U.S.

military tons, and now their families have had to move to India and to Pakistan, believe it or not, to escape people in Afghanistan.

We've been trying to get them refugee status in the U.S.

and that's hard to do.

You still have people that are not over here yet that are overseas who should be here.

So that's something that we should do as Americans.

But remember, this is not about Mexico.

It's about people from the entire world wanting to come to a better place and us not wanting them to bring the same problems that they're fleeing from with them here.

They're escaping problems.

They want a country ruled by law.

That's what makes us safe.

That's what they want here.

Yes.

And I've certainly met people from other countries who say, I do not want the shit that I fled coming back here.

I threw that veil off when I got here.

Don't make me wear it here.

Ethan Hawke, what what are the key social differences you notice between the United States and Canada as someone who lives in both countries?

What a great question.

You know, one of the biggest differences.

You should be a politician.

No, no, no.

You know, you come on a show like this and you wonder what you're going to get hit with, you know, and that's so interesting to me because I do, I have a place in Nova Scotia that we spend summers at, and I have for a long time.

And one of the things that's amazing there is you're,

you know, what you would call rural people, lobstermen, fishermen,

hunters you know guys who were it's out in the sticks this place yeah it's out in the sticks and the people there are environmentalists and they are extremely educated in uh in protecting their environment and it really because it's their living yeah and they make it really easy everyone you have to recycle they have a bag for compost they have a bag for plastic they have a bag for the four different things and you have to do it or you get a fine so you can go to a hunting shack at a you know a hootinanny at four in the morning people are playing they're smoking pot, they're drinking, and they're putting their recycling where it belongs because they have to.

And

that's called good government.

They make it really easy to do the right thing.

And that is really exciting.

Okay, Robert.

Well.

Don't get him started on.

I'm a conservationist, not an environmentalist, but that's what people who hunt like I do,

all kinds of things.

but a conservationist.

I want the wildland to be beautiful.

I want deer all over so I can shoot them and eat them and still have plenty more for everybody else, really.

I mean, the environmental movement owns it.

Great

hunters and fishermen of this country, and they're the ones who should be leading the cause.

And look, if you eat what you shoot,

that's no different than someone who goes to the supermarket.

So that's a hypocrisy.

In fact, mine doesn't have antibiotics in it, doesn't have any steroids in it.

We could do a better job of putting trash cans at bus stops in this country.

We should.

Yeah,

We don't make it easy to recycle and things like that.

Why do you think that...

Well, you know, go.

Why do you think that, you know, Teddy Roosevelt is a great model of a Republican leader in ecology and everything.

Why isn't the Republican administration take that more seriously?

Like, how are they okay with what Scott Prud is doing?

Because the history, the great history of the Republican Party is being a leader in protecting animals, I mean, your right to hunt and making that more available.

I just, I feel like that that is a place where you could really lead.

So, the Department of the Interior, that a Navy SEAL has, a former congressman, Navy SEAL is now the head of the interior, and he is doing that.

I mean, he's a conservationist.

There's groups like Safari Club International.

They try to bring more elephants around.

They try to bring more deer.

They're introducing antelope back into San Diego

next year.

But what about Scotland?

They were wiping out like 5,000 years ago.

What about Scott Proud?

How can you not see that?

What about Scott Proof?

What about Scott Pruber?

Head of the EPA.

That's not much shame.

Congressman, do you think he should resign?

No.

Yes.

Oh, come on.

How could you not think that?

Do you think he should be in charge of protecting our environment?

The stuff's so overinessionalized that

all the expenses on everybody.

It's getting ridiculous.

Yeah, one of those give up.

I'm just going to say, all I'm thinking is like, I don't agree with this guy on anything,

but I see why they win elections.

Because they're not fucking pussy.

They show up here and they go,

they say what, yeah, and that's very attractive to people, and Democrats need to learn that skill.

Could you tutor us a little bit?

But you know what?

I'll just ask one more environmental question.

I don't know if you saw it, but this week the CDC says diseases borne by ticks, fleas, and mosquitoes.

We never used to have mosquitoes in California.

It's one of the great things about it.

Now I see mosquitoes.

Out of control.

And these carry really horrible diseases that they don't have a clue how to fix.

And you go camping or even in the years to come, just staying at home, this is going to be more prevalent.

This is because of global warming.

because went winters are shorter that there's more uh environment that's friendly to these bugs for a longer time

it's gonna bite you in the ass literally i i the air is you know it's not something that rich people can cordon off that's what i don't get about why republicans why the koch brothers are not environmentalists they can't have their own air you can't get away from this shit it's gonna get everybody

you're saying bottle warming

ticks and mosquitoes.

Global warming.

Yes, I am.

That's a global warming.

I read the article in the New York Times that talks about this.

They didn't mention global warming once.

The word climate change wasn't used.

The word temperature was used one time.

And

one of the main reasons for this is people.

No, I'm telling you, Bill.

No, no, no.

No, I promise you, it wasn't in there.

They said people flying now from other places and the ease of access in travel and the world being flatter.

That is what has really led to this.

No, hold on, you're not pitching flat earth.

No, he's not.

You know, the one big elephant in this room that we're not talking about is money in politics.

And that's what's down there.

Look at, I think I told him we're going to get on to that.

Democrats are not immune, but Republicans really have

led the way.

Big money.

Hey, I think the Republican Party has been much too corporatized.

They're way too close to Wall Street, way too close.

We used to be the party of not free trade, of fair trade, of mere trade.

What Trump's doing now, which I dig.

I dig what he's doing on steel, on tariffs, on national.

That's got to be a tough sentence to say.

I dig what he's doing.

That's got to be tough.

I dig it.

How that flows out.

He's getting used to

the break.

Are you getting big money out of politics, though?

Like, it shouldn't just go back to corporations can't donate.

It shouldn't be regular.

And millionaires shouldn't be able to run against guys like me.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

Wait a minute.

McCain.

McCain used to remember.

That was his big thing before we were in the business.

Yeah, he was really.

And fine gold.

Yeah, that was the fast the one bill that they got it.

All right.

Thank you, everybody.

Thank you, Patrick.

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