Post-Trump World, GOP Split, Black History Month | Overtime with Bill Maher (HBO)

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Bill and his guests – Richard Haass, Anthony Scaramucci, David Frum, Donna Brazile answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 02/02/18)
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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Ma.

Here we are.

I am making friends with the mooch in case Trump tries to send me to Gitmo.

That's what I want to know.

I've got a power on the animal.

It's from Mexico when you get the Gitmo.

No, let me tell you.

It would be a hemorrhoid surprise.

Okay.

Anthony, if you could redo one thing while you were at the White House, what would it be?

That's a good question.

Probably the Ryan Lizard call, I probably wouldn't have had that one.

Right.

But you are in 10 days, you actually.

11.

11.

9.

Sorry.

I'm getting 9.1 percent of my federal career.

It wasn't as long as from the 10.

But it's not how long you're there, it's how much you accomplish.

You know, you can't get out of the way.

Hey, let me tell you something.

Did we knock out a lot of the leakers and a lot of the unnecessary internescent warfare?

You definitely did that.

The two biggest leakers got knocked out with me.

In the American Revolution, George Washington only fought nine battles and he only won three of them.

Deal with that.

Amen.

Amen.

Richard Haas, what will U.S.

global leadership look like post-Trump?

If there is ever such a thing?

It's actually a good question.

The issue of whether Trump's an aberration or whether he's a trend and to what extent Trumpism

is there.

And I actually, I worry about that a little bit.

I mean, he's an extremely

glitch.

Exactly.

And what comes next?

And

also, whoever comes next, they're not going to inherit the world that he inherited.

It's going to be a world that's been degraded.

It's going to be a tough job when you come after him.

And the country, it's not clear to me, is ready to play the sort of role that we historically have.

Okay.

We'll allow time for rebuttal?

Yes, of course.

Rebut.

Again, I see it differently.

I think that the world, the economic engine of the United States, I mean, we have a real shot now to double the economy in 18 years.

We can clip away at 3 percent growth.

It will eliminate a lot of the entitlement issues that we have.

I think we are going to bolster the business.

Eliminate entitlement issues, meaning

that you can't do that.

Yeah, when you get it to $34 trillion,

it'll double our in 18 years if you grow at 3 percent.

I can

teach you the math.

18 years.

Well, no, I mean, you're going to double.

I went to Cornell, you know.

That's Ivy League.

But United.

We used to play each other,

but I don't know if you're going to be able to do it.

I don't see a calculator out here.

We rebut the rebuttal.

Yes, please.

Let me just finish.

It's called a debate show.

The nation will be stronger.

And

18 years, who the fuck knows what's going to be going on in 18 years?

That's such a ridiculous.

You'll be here telling these people.

I hope so.

What today show?

I'll be 80, but I hope I will be.

We're going to have a lot more beachfront property on that hairline.

But

what we're going to see

there'll be beachfront property in Nebraska because of his environmental policy.

That's where the beachfront property is.

I give you that one.

You'll give me that one.

Yeah, it's just throwing the Earth.

We have a problem with the economy.

It's not just him, though.

Okay.

Richard, the whole

rates, interest rates are going up in part because the tax cut was deeper than it needed to be, in part because the economy was already growing okay.

The debt is going to skyrocket, which is going to force rates up.

We're already seeing wages going up, causing, again, the Fed to raise rates.

What this is going to do is slow the economy.

And what this is going to do, I think, is ultimately create a crisis.

We're about climate change.

the other big crisis, our debt.

We're going to have to raise the rate significantly to fund our debt.

There's no way we are going to grow out of that.

It's $13 trillion of it.

No, but that was

a due to two unnecessary wars.

Big difference when you're coming out of a crisis like 2007-8.

Right now we're creating the crisis.

It is amazing when you guys are coming in.

You're not acknowledging the fact that there's been 13

that there's a bipartisan indictment on the table.

There's a $13 trillion of debt was added over the last nine years.

And you just added another.

I mean, when you guys are out of power, we cannot spend a nickel.

As soon as you get into power, it's like just write the checks.

Richardson, I don't get it.

Richard knows that the pay-as-you-go legislation that he put in place in the George Bush won administration.

Okay, well, Dorman did it.

Dorman came up with the pay-as-you-go legislation.

This is a helpful

budget.

Started to right-side the budget.

We shouldn't be talking about this as if there's you guys, as if there's two parties here.

The Republican Party is a broken party.

And there are people who have served the Republican Party that was, and there are people who are volunteering to serve the Republican Party that will be.

But

it is not to say that,

as Anthony said when he denigrated the past Republican presidents, it is important to understand that something new is taking the place of the Republican Party that Richard New and I knew.

I'm dividing both sides.

I'm not denigrating the past Republican presidents.

You racked up $20 trillion of debt on the American people.

Do you think the swamp is a really good business model for the American people?

I think.

17 years of war

50,000, Cali.

How's that swamp?

I don't think it's drainable.

I think it's a gold-plated hot tub.

But when Trump thinks that he's going to

mean that when he says, I'm going to drain the swamp, it was a lie.

No, I don't think it was a lie.

I think it was an ambition.

And when he's gotten down there,

he's a liar.

You have to agree.

Raise your hand in the room.

But like, raise your hand in the room.

We've never told a lie.

No, but.

Raise your hand in the room.

But not like six a day when you're in president.

Raise your hand in the room.

But wait, wait.

We've never told a lie.

But that's not, come on, that's not an answer.

You know, that's an answer.

You know, he's a sales guy.

He's been a sales guy his whole life.

When you're president, you.

But again, it's just not new.

You don't like the fact that he's a

non-presidential.

He's not a president.

That's how I want to relate.

He's not going to solve

problems.

Take it as normal.

He's going to lie, lie, lie, lie.

Like, as soon as this date of the union was over,

it's the greatest ratings ever.

The other presidents didn't lie.

The other politicians didn't lie.

Not like that.

Not like that.

We're living in a normative world.

What you accept says who you are.

What you accept says who you are.

And it's like.

And I think one of the peculiar and unexpected gifts of Donald Trump is that he has taught a lot of people to understand both the preciousness of truth and also the need to defend institutions like the FBI and the CIA.

Maybe they wouldn't have gotten the big applause that they got tonight in this room.

I think probably three years ago or four years ago, if you told the people in this room that Edward Snowden and Julian Assange were not heroes, they might think differently.

I think now we all understand better.

We understand who they were working for, what they were working to accomplish, and we see it in front of us now.

I wouldn't lump them together quite that way.

Julian Assange is a little different than the other guy, and Julian Assange somehow did get a little too in with Russia.

And very close to the Trump campaign.

I'm not sure that.

Your anger towards Trump is clouding your judgment, but a good anger master class would help you think a little more about that.

That is such a Michael Coralian line.

No, but it is.

It is.

It's Godfather 3.

Your anger is, don't let your anger cloud your judgment.

No, really.

I still believe no one is available to office.

And that includes the president.

Don't let your anger cloud your judgment, but don't let your ambitions also cloud your judgment.

What does that even mean, though?

You're talking about my ambition?

What are you talking about?

I lived a great life.

What are you talking about?

I went in there to try to serve the country and help the middle and lower middle class people that are struggling in this country.

You got to wake up, brother.

It was Donald Trump.

You're living in like an ivory tower.

You got to sit up.

It was Donald Trump.

It was Donald Trump.

You only have to read the New York Post.

You should get some of the Mexicone thing as a suppository and drop the end.

So you should do it.

You're like a mean guy.

A mean guy.

Okay.

I'm not a weak guy.

You're mean.

And you're angry.

You are so Canadian to be that way.

Let me move on.

Donna Brazil, aside from we're not Trump, the Democrats have a Gability unable to craft a simple, clear, appealing message to voters.

What is it going to take for Democrats to wake up to this?

We want an economy that works for everyone, period.

I mean,

we want an economy that works for every American, especially those Americans who are still struggling.

And by the way, it is Black History Month.

Black unemployment went up a little bit.

I want to just say something to the president if you get him on the phone tomorrow.

Stop.

Leave us alone.

It was under President Obama, it started going down, it kept going down, it kept going down, it ticked back up.

So just leave us alone.

The end of my show last week was all about how he picks fights with black people.

Yeah, leave us alone.

Leave us alone.

Do you think he picks fights with black people?

And then on Q, he did it with Jay-Z.

But I had a list this long from Colin Kaepernick and Obama on top.

He does seem to, the war widow, he seems to purposely get

any

credit

for sitting with the Rainbow Coalition 25 years ago and getting the.

refresh my memory

25 years ago.

What did he do?

Yeah, he was part of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition.

Remember Danny Jackson?

What have you done for us lately?

But he's also the guy.

He answered from his audience.

He's all about accepting.

The Reverend Jesse was not water.

Look, this is not about the penalty for the Central Park V, even though they were innocent.

But does he get credit for discretion with his lack of

Come on, come on.

I don't remember that.

I remember the Central Park V.

I remember the Central Park V when he went after them even after they were innocent.

And one of them

was a lot of people.

I'm not a statement about our country.

I'm very down here.

I'm not a country.

I'm a statement about our country.

I'll call balls and strikes as I see him.

Ask me to question him.

I want to know what truck you're on, because you are.

I'm on the Michael Corleone truck.

He is very Michael Corleone.

He doesn't raise his voice.

He's a quiet killer.

A little bit too honest, though.

I'm not like the typical backstabbing Washingtonian.

Well, I'm like Tina Turner.

I'm a private dancer, baby, but I don't dance for that kind of money.

I'm so sorry.

Well,

there's an after-party gone.

I'm going to try to get you to dance.

I'm not going to go there at all.

By the way.

Time for me to suck my own cock.

Thank you very much, everybody.

Never done that.

I don't think you can do it.

I'll take you under it.

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