Overtime – Episode #411 (Originally aired 1/20/17)

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Molly.

How should the media respond when Trump attacks a reporter or organization?

Good question.

You know, that press conference he had, we're entering a new era.

Not a press conference, infomercial.

Right.

And also, you know, the idea, it's kind of genius of like having your clack there to laugh at you.

You know, it's like what Howard Stern does.

You know, he's got a little kitchen cabinet there with every move you make.

You're a great one, Johnny.

You have a good.

Well,

it's this classic.

I mean, he actually, if you look in the textbook of personality disorders, is narcissistic.

We don't need a book.

I'm a policy wonk.

I like to look at the book.

But, you know, I mean, that's one of the things that he does, right?

He actually has this

shortage of popularity in the real world.

And so he is obsessed with the idea that he's popular.

And so he creates this sort of sense of a cacophony of support, which is just not true, as today's barely there mall

showed.

But to answer that question, everybody should have walked out.

It would never happen.

It would not have happened if, I can't imagine the circumstances, any of the last five presidents had done it, because in those press rooms, it is now not about getting an answer from the president, but getting yourself recorded and played on your own network asking the question.

And the guy could just go, oh, and they would run that soundbite.

So there's no uniformity and there's no collectivism.

But if you now fill, if you now quadruple the press room,

you guys walk out, CNN walks out, and NBC, ABC, and CBS somehow go out with him.

That leaves 47 Jeff Gannons to ask questions from the Bush administration.

Remember him?

Yeah.

That's who's who's going to fill those other seats.

Yeah, well, if anything's good about this, though, it is, I feel like the press has been chastised, and they got the message.

I don't know if they're changing.

They have changed to a degree already, but they do feel bad.

I've never seen them at least feel bad before.

They do feel like, oh, yeah, we did fuck up.

We did over-hype the email bullshit.

And we did overcover Donald Trump.

And look what we got.

But they felt bad after Iraq, and it didn't last long.

It's a little like what

Tom Sawyer said about Huck Finn when an evangelical preacher came to town.

The preacher was so good that Huck was saved until Sunday afternoon.

So,

you know, it's just not a, it's hard to stay on that wagon.

I think that there's going to be a lot of terrific reporting.

There has been a lot of terrific reporting.

You look at what the Washington Post did on the fact that he's never given anything to charity.

The New York Times had the GSA story today that the President of the United States, as of now, is in violation of a GSA lease, which explicitly says no federally elected official can own one of these contracts.

So the moment he took the oath, he was in violation of federal regulations.

Maybe that was one he suspended this evening.

But I think that a lot of it is on, and we've been talking about this, a lot of it's on us to people to act on that information and not get it lost in the Trump state cacophony.

Well, that's why I've been Johnny OneNote here because, Tommy, OneNote, I guess.

Because we can't normalize fake news.

We can't allow the ethics breaches that have occurred.

There have been more ethics breaches from the time of the election to the time of the inauguration than there.

I mean, the Obama administration was squeaky clean.

This guy is starting square one, and they've already violated every ethics rule in the

organization.

That's why I got involved in this race for the DNC, because we've got to get out there and organize, organize, organize.

But we also have to be honest with ourselves as Democrats, Bill, because

we can talk till we're blue in the face about Donald Trump's lack of character.

But we also have to understand that, you know, on Election Day, we had folks that we didn't touch.

You know, we got enamored with data analytics and we ignored the old persuasion.

You know,

you can't go to a church every 4th October and call that an organizing strategy.

We've got to get back to basics.

And you look at rural America, you look at Wisconsin.

And we also have to shout down our fringe, the politically correct assholes

on the far left.

But getting more toward the center, too many of them.

Look, it wasn't even that popular here in this room.

No, I understand.

I mean, I think

we have to get out there and make house calls.

Because

there is Howard County, Iowa, in 2012 went for Obama by 21 points.

In 2016, went for Trump by 21 points.

That's a 42-point swing.

You can't sit here and say all Donald Trump voters are racist.

There's plenty of David Dukes out there.

But these folks, the challenge was we didn't touch them.

We didn't listen to them.

When Donald Trump comes in and tells you in Butler County, Ohio, which is coal country,

and alienated many of them, quite frankly.

I mean, they have this impression impression that we don't...

Not that we don't care, but that Democrats are just always coddling

irresponsible behavior.

They just have that impression.

The party of giveaways and the party who just doesn't care about the regular person anymore.

And when you talk about jobs, you know, in Ohio, for instance, I was there recently.

Jobs, jobs, jobs was the number one issue.

When Donald Trump comes in and says, I'm going to bring your coal jobs back, we know that's a lie.

But

what they heard from the Democrats was, vote for me because Donald Trump is scary.

What they heard from the Democrats is, we're going to make you pee next to a guy in a dress.

And that's our number one priority.

Well, there's that too, but they also heard or intuited that at this point, the Democratic Party, particularly that embodied by the Democratic nominee, not her challenger in the primaries, but by the Democratic nominee, that, as George Wallace once said, there's not a dime's worth of difference.

see the elites and that there's this duopoly that ultimately is a plutocracy.

And so, yes, the cultural stuff matters.

But when they looked at Hillary, David Marinus did a great piece about the story of the Clintons is when he went from McDonald's to being a vegan.

And that that shift lost a ton of his.

The story of Clinton is not just about McDonald's and vegans and these cultural signifiers, it's about NAFTA and repealing Glass-Steagall.

I mean, there's actual policy that changed the face of this economy.

And the welfare.

And the welfare and the crime bill.

And I just, I want to make sure that as we try to do this analysis of what went wrong with the Democrats, we don't end up sort of lionizing the kind of regular American who is, you know, in all of our imaginations, like a middle-aged white guy, like this guy named Gary that called into a C-SPAN show that I was on and said, I'm a white male and I'm prejudiced.

And, you know, you could hear a pen drop on the set.

And he then went on to say, you know, it's the gangs and the drugs and, you know, repeating all the Fox News stuff.

And then at the end, he said, I actually want to change and be a better American.

And I want to know if your guest, me, can help me do that.

And

it's a good way to hit on you.

All right.

I have a birthday party to get to.

Thank you, everybody.

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