Overtime - Episode #377 (Originally aired 2/12/16)

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Speaker 4 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series, Real Time with Bill Maher.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 6 By the way, that was the stuff you gave me last time. That was the stuff?

Speaker 5 Yes, it's good shit.

Speaker 6 Mike was on the show.

Speaker 7 Mike was on the show before, and he,

Speaker 6 as all guests should, gave me a big jar of pie.

Speaker 8 Definitely going to make my mom very happy. Mom, it was good stuff.

Speaker 8 My mom was the first marijuana smoker I knew, and she had to talk with me when I was about third grade. Her talk was, spray my perfume on you, don't tell your teachers mommy smokes marijuana.

Speaker 8 The talk with my third grader has been a little different. Yes, daddy smokes marijuana.
No, it's not appropriate for children.

Speaker 8 But my mom asked me to smoke a joint with you so you just fulfill my mom's dream. Hey, Denise.

Speaker 8 That's beautiful.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 6 as we've always all said, it is not appropriate for children. No, I don't think they should even sell edibles in any form that well they help sick people.

Speaker 5 Even though we finished,

Speaker 6 sell edibles, but not in a form that looks like a fucking gummy edible.

Speaker 5 Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 6 It's just too much opportunity for. I've had people,

Speaker 6 you know, like, is that, oh, don't eat that.

Speaker 9 That's a, whoa.

Speaker 6 And like, wait, I would have been stoned.

Speaker 5 Like, I am that. Edibles should look like little bugs you talk about.

Speaker 10 Well, they should make it like nasty Halloween candy, like candy corn or peanuts.

Speaker 7 Can I ask you guys a question? Yeah.

Speaker 9 I was away for a minute, like, what the hell happened?

Speaker 5 Like, I was out here, we were like talking about the Middle East.

Speaker 5 Now you're talking about like, yo, man, they should make edible marijuana shit like insects, man.

Speaker 5 You're like, oh, you went to the store. I went to the store.
I came back. I was like, yeah, no.
Did I miss something?

Speaker 10 Well, listen, I didn't smoke anything, but I just want to know if sitting here, at least I'm entitled to the Cheetos.

Speaker 5 There we go. You're going to want them after all that second hand.
Yes, I want them now.

Speaker 6 ISIS came in and got me stone, Richard.

Speaker 5 They do that, you know.

Speaker 6 Richard Engel, what explains ISIS's ability to recruit young people from all over the world? Well, a lot of it's technology, right? Social media.

Speaker 9 Well, they have space. I think of ISIS like a virus, right?

Speaker 9 And a virus exists because the host is sick. And the host right now,

Speaker 9 primarily Iraq and Syria, is like on its deathbed.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 9 you get the place stronger, you get more stability there, ISIS goes away.

Speaker 6 But without social media, Twitter, and the things that...

Speaker 9 That attracts it. That attracts it.
But it isn't.

Speaker 5 But Al-Qaeda didn't have that, wasn't it? It doesn't matter. You're going to have...

Speaker 9 Right now, you can put out as many, you could put out an ISIS video on your show.

Speaker 9 I don't suggest you do that, but you're not going to suddenly have many, many, many more people in this country joining up and signing up for ISIS. There's a limited population.

Speaker 9 It's because you have a failed state. It's because you have guns.
It's because you have a civil war.

Speaker 6 And a caliphate. Isn't that a lot of it that they want to actually go, there's an actual country as opposed to what Al-Qaeda has?

Speaker 9 This isn't a caliphate. This is nonsense.
They're not available.

Speaker 5 Everything I know is

Speaker 7 not the caliphate, you know.

Speaker 8 Really?

Speaker 6 That's not the difference between Al-Qaeda and ISIS, is that they have an actual place that they can say, come on.

Speaker 13 They have a place.

Speaker 9 I'm saying they have a territory, and they have their playground to

Speaker 6 practice. Are we making any progress rolling that back? I mean, they did retake

Speaker 5 remote.

Speaker 1 Not really.

Speaker 9 I mean, a little bit, but no. In general, no.

Speaker 10 Look, young people are getting attracted by the promise of all those virgins. Little do they, they're too young and inexperienced to know virgins are not what they're cracked up to be.

Speaker 5 You don't need to work blue. You're funny as you are, you know.

Speaker 6 Josh Green, did the media underestimate the appeal of outsiders like Trump and Bernie? Duh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Duh is the only

Speaker 5 killer mind.

Speaker 5 As soon as you get internet, you're like, do you people watch the show? Because we.

Speaker 12 But it wasn't only the media.

Speaker 10 Hillary Clinton underestimated Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 6 Predictions, they want to know for South Carolina and Nevada. Now, when is Nevada? Is it...
It's a little different because the parties are not the same in those states.

Speaker 10 Exactly.

Speaker 10 South Carolina comes first for Republicans, and that, which for Republicans, it's February 20th.

Speaker 5 That's too concerned.

Speaker 6 So Nevada, I think Bernie could win.

Speaker 13 Caucus State does well in caucus states, but

Speaker 13 her campaign manager, used to run Nevada.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 6 Harry Reid.

Speaker 6 No, I mean, there's a lot of Democratic old line establishments.

Speaker 13 There's that, too. And unlike eight years ago, she's been organizing and knows what to do.

Speaker 10 And I think people underestimate Bernie Sanders. You know, they think that because there's all these African Americans in South Carolina or African Americans and Hispanics in Nevada, he can't win.

Speaker 10 Look, you know,

Speaker 10 African Americans, Hispanics, minority groups, we don't all think alike. It's not groupthink.
We're not a one big, homogeneous, monolithic voting machine. There are African-American progressives.

Speaker 10 There are Hispanic progressives. And I think he's going to appeal to some of them.

Speaker 8 I think he does, and people are mistaken in thinking. I think a lot of African Americans have just been taught to toe the Democratic line.

Speaker 8 And I think a lot of younger ones in particular are breaking that.

Speaker 8 You know, like I say, I have African-American friends that are conservatives, that are staunch Republicans, that are independents, that are libertarians.

Speaker 8 And a lot of them have jumped on the Bernie bandwagon just because they're like, we're not going to toe a Democratic line, and we're tied to the regular system.

Speaker 8 And one of those people in particular is Shelly Winters down in Atlanta. Very conservative guy had a great talk show for you.

Speaker 6 Shelly Winters? His name was Shelly Winters. The Oscar winner?

Speaker 5 No, no, no, no. No, no, no.
He's a cheap passive black guy from New Rochelle.

Speaker 5 All the people who are in the middle of the night. But remember,

Speaker 12 everybody thought the women were going to vote for Hillary Winters.

Speaker 10 And what did we just see in New Hampshire?

Speaker 12 We saw all the young women

Speaker 10 vote for the old guy.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 9 You mentioned earlier that a lot of the statistics that are being thrown around, like the unemployment rates are total nonsense.

Speaker 9 A lot lot of the stuff that's being thrown around foreign policy-wise is total nonsense. Like

Speaker 9 ISIS, we're going to make the sand glow, one person recently said.

Speaker 13 Prudes.

Speaker 9 Well, where ISIS operates, there's no sand.

Speaker 5 It's olive groves.

Speaker 7 The area in northern Syria, it looks like southern California. Not a lot of sand.

Speaker 9 You better pray that you can't do that.

Speaker 5 So you can make it glow.

Speaker 7 But it's not going to have a lot of impact on ISIS.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, the two things I said to you, that it was the caliphate and that social media was important, you see that in the media all the time.

Speaker 5 I mean, we need to.

Speaker 9 Social media, you know, it's the fact that there is a place. No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 There is a failed state. There is this carnival where you can show up and do horrible atrocities to people.
That's the lure. The fact that, you know, the advertising is good is less important,

Speaker 9 the physical space that exists.

Speaker 6 Margaret, are you concerned about performing your stand-up in a conservative country like Singapore?

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, because I could totally get caned.

Speaker 6 Remember that? The guy who got caned?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm going to get caned for chewing gum. I could chew so much gum and peace.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, I could get caned for what we just did here tonight.

Speaker 12 We were very

Speaker 9 rude and.

Speaker 6 And if he could have, wouldn't Giuliani have caning when he was mayor of Maine?

Speaker 10 He's such a nice guy.

Speaker 6 Rudy Giuliani? Yes.

Speaker 6 He may be a nice guy.

Speaker 6 He has some hard-ass opinions. I mean, really, to get that upset about Beyonce.

Speaker 10 He gets crabby.

Speaker 10 Look, I think when it comes, when he sees it as an assault on police officers, I think he gets very upset, very emotional, very invested.

Speaker 6 Do you think it's possible, I'm just asking hypothetically, to be racist and not know you're racist?

Speaker 6 Hypothetically.

Speaker 10 Yes, I do. Okay.
But I don't think that's the case case of Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 8 Can we also agree that politicians don't give a shit about cops? That's a lie. My dad was a cop.
Cops are underpaid. Cops are underprotected.

Speaker 8 When you see a cop, one cop in a patrol car, that means that politicians don't care enough to put two cops in a patrol car.

Speaker 8 Two police officers in a patrol car give cops an opportunity to get out of that car and interact with community.

Speaker 8 And politicians that care about police officers make sure that they're liaisons between the public and police.

Speaker 8 I'm tired of the narrative that somehow because I'm a conservative or because I'm a Republican, I care more for police officers. People who care for police officers hire from within the community.

Speaker 8 They care about police officers' protection and their families. And, you know, that's just.

Speaker 8 I think that progressives need to be more assertive.

Speaker 8 I'm a pan-Africanist gangster rapper, and a policeman died in southwest Atlanta, and I put his picture up. No politician did that in Atlanta.
No politician from his district did that.

Speaker 8 So it just is totally fuckery to say that because they're working class men that are doing the bidding of a higher class of people that don't give a shit about the people that they're policing.

Speaker 8 I'd just like to say that on the behalf of families of police officers. Politicians, if you love cops, you can do a fucking better job.
That's it.

Speaker 6 Nice bummer speech. You killed my buzz.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry, I'm fucking with you. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 All right, final question.

Speaker 6 Will there be any blowback to Donald Trump's criticism of Pope Francis? I did not hear. What did he say?

Speaker 10 Oh my God, I haven't heard either.

Speaker 9 No, well, he's said in the past that the issue about migration, there should be more of a focus on migration

Speaker 5 and Pope Francis convoluting something.

Speaker 5 The supporters are like, yeah, that Donald E. Delta.

Speaker 9 No, I know the idea is that Donald Trump has been about the wall in Mexico, and the Pope is going there, and he's going to meet with the downtrodden, and are they on conflicting paths?

Speaker 10 Well, listen, he's gone after prisoners of war.

Speaker 10 He's gone after Megan Kelly. You know, these folks are like quasi-deities with a conservative base, and his numbers have gone up.

Speaker 6 He's on Twitter, and the Pope's on Twitter. They could have a Twitter war.

Speaker 6 I smell a comedy bit on this show, Nick.

Speaker 12 I'll stick with

Speaker 12 a higher.

Speaker 5 The Pope is a lousy foot washer.

Speaker 6 All right, time to go.

Speaker 5 Thank you very much, everybody.

Speaker 5 For a great crowd,

Speaker 6 let's hope we're not arrested.

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