Overtime - Episode #373 (Originally aired 1/15/16)

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Month series, real-time with Bill Maher. So here are the questions.
Ralph Reed, how important is the evangelical vote in the Republican primaries?

Well, in Iowa, it's everything. It's 56 to 60 percent of the vote in Iowa.

Right now, if you look at the Des Moines Register Bloomberg Politics poll that came out, I guess a couple of days ago, it has Cruz getting 37 percent of that vote in an 11-person field. So

Trump is probably low 20s. So if that stays where it is,

he'll win the Iowa caucuses

based on the strength of his overperformance among that vote.

But isn't it? Is Dr. Ben really the most Jesus-y of all of them?

That is true.

Is

Jesusy a technical term or is that a theological term?

There is is no technology in your area.

We're dealing strictly with the ether here.

I don't know.

When he divided the fish and the bread, I think

people ate. Yeah.

Well, of course that's a story that was written down in a book 2,000 years old, and even the people who wrote it were not contemporaries of Jesus.

There are as many contemporaneous contemporaneous accounts of his ministry as there are

none.

Excuse me, Ralph. Excuse me.
The Gospels were written from 70 to 110 A.D. He died in 33.
St. Paul lived in the 50s, not the 1950s.

There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus. You must know that.

You must. As I said, there are contemporary eyewitness accounts.
There are no eyewitnesses. Whether or not they were written later or not doesn't vitiate the fact that they were not.
Doc,

would you please referee this?

There are no contemporary accounts. There are perennial truths like love thy neighbor as thyself.
Not the question do unto others as you have others do unto you. Not the question.

But in terms of the particular writings of the text, it certainly occurs decades after that attempt to

keep alive the story of the world. But it's by the eyewitnesses who were there.
No, it's not. Mark, Matthew.
He's the first gospel. He wrote it in the year 70.
It's 40 years after Jesus was.

Well, 37. 37.
Okay, 37. Okay.
Yeah.

But not a contemporary. So you're saying that

if I write something 37 years from now which says I know. You're saying just don't say they're contemporaries.

Because they're not. Well, then we have an issue with definition of terms.
Right, a contemporary is someone who lived at the same time.

The answer to the original question is: the evangelical vote is going to be very important.

That was a nice round.

Brother Ralph, brother Ralph, Bill, brother Ralph. Whatever your personal views are, Jesus's followers are still around and they vote.
Oh, I know.

Brother Ralph.

That was a nice move.

That was a nice move.

Why are you on his team? Because.

we're both Christians.

Peach is wrong about a lot of things.

He's my fellow Christian and brother.

Don't seek to divide your panel. What? Don't seek to divide your panel.
It's ugly.

I mean,

I never understood why black people wanted to adopt the God of the slave master.

Oh, no, no, that's the exact opposite.

How How do you know that Hebrew scripture is that of an oppressed and persecuted people where God says, you are subordinated, but I make a covenant with you.

All you have to do is do justly, love, mercy, walk comely with thy God, and you will have a sense of dignity that allows you to stand in the face of Pharaoh. Now you have to answer.

Oh, yeah, that's a different. That's a different.

There's just something. I don't know.

There's just something about you that sparks a sermon in all of them.

I don't know what it could be. Oh, that was another good one, Brother Russia.
That's the best way to spread your bullshit.

John,

what do you make of criticism that Oscar nominees didn't represent a diverse enough pool of actors? Oh, I think it's a real shame. But I think the problem, to be honest, isn't really the Oscars.

I don't think they should take that responsibility. I think it's Hollywood in general, who's making the movies, who's being allowed to direct those movies, who's being allowed to be in those movies.

So let's start changing that. That's right.
It's always a strange

phenomenon to me that Hollywood, the most liberal place in the world,

when 12 Years a Slave won the Oscars, several Oscar voters admitted we never saw the movie. We just knew it should be the right choice.
Ooh, is that right? That's very liberal, yes.

Wow. And they always pick, I mean, if you have AIDS or you're a slave, you're always going to win the Oscar.

Don't fuck with me. I'll say it again.

I don't know.

I feel like his birthday is having a weird effect on him. No, but I mean, it's true.
You know.

If you play somebody who is some sort of an affliction, you're going to what you're going to play. Or Republican, Julianne Moore.

An Emmy. It was an Emmy, but still.
Okay. Republican, same chatty.
Not really the same thing. A little bit.

Okay.

Anyway, but why, if they're so liberal, do they have this prejudice against nominating black people? You think they would bend over backwards to nominate the black people? Could it possibly be?

I mean, who was it up? Will Smith they wanted nominating? Yeah, brother Will. Maybe.

Maybe, could it possibly be just that the other five actually did a better acting job? I'm just asking. I mean, that's awesome.

I mean, I think

Leonardo is just a giant.

No doubt about that. But I think this issue...
He got raped by a bear. Come on.
He's got it.

That's like...

That's like... Yeah.

AIDS times slaves times...

I'm talking about his prosecution. I'm talking about his craft.
His craft. His crap.

Dr. West, what is the future of the Black Lives Matter movement? Well, I hope it's a strong future, though, but it's not a movement yet.
It's a moment that has momentum.

It's not a movement until it's able to sustain itself, bring in significant allies and keep their eyes on the prize, which is freedom and justice for everybody.

But it begins on the chocolate side of town because oftentimes

chocolate brothers and sisters are overlooked when you talk about abstract universal categories. It's a matter of connecting and then bringing us all in.

Did you see that? Because you think about this, 87 years ago today,

Martin Luther King Jr. was born by Precious Alberta, his mother.
Oh, is that the day? January 15th, 1929.

So his spirit could still be operating in McConnell.

Rihanna asks, I'm guessing not the same one.

Although she is a fan. I know that.
I introduced her at the American Music Awards. Is Bill Clinton a liability or an asset on the campaign trail for Hillary? Oh, that's an interesting question.

The answer is both. Both.
Yeah, he's a major asset,

and he's also a liability. And he's a liability not only because of

these issues related to his past

mistreatment of women, but also

the fact that... He just knows where the jugular is in everybody.
I tell you.

Bill Clinton is such a gifted politician that Hillary actually looks worse than she normally would in contrast. That's true.
That's so true.

But I think what's interesting about him is he allowed Trump to raise not his conduct.

Everybody knows what he did, and nobody held it against him even at the time. He had a 67% approval rate in the week he was impeached.
Well, some people held it against him. Well, a few, yes.
Yes.

The people in your party. I'm talking about the voters, the public.
He was re-elected. That's a good thing.

More than 60% of the country is.

If they're going to shoot anybody here,

unless they miss, you're fine.

I don't know about Bindo Brown. But

John raised the issue of her conduct during those years. And, you know, I would have thought a lot of people thought she was the victim, that her husband cheated, but that is not the case.

There was a pretty robust debate about her conduct, her treatment of Lewinsky and whatnot. Okay, I'm going to go eat my cake.
Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you, Prato.

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