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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Month series, Real Time with Bill Maher.

Okay, here we are.

And which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning the general election?

Of the declared ones right now, Donald Trump.

Especially when we're talking about.

Well, what about of all of them?

I mean, Scott Walker.

There's a lot laughter from the audience.

Scott Walker, would you say?

Of the ones who aren't declared, no, Romney Walker is my ticket.

Romney Walker.

But last time you said if we elect, if we nominate Romney, we'll definitely lose.

And I was right.

But

why will he win this?

That was two

chance, and it was because actually for, well, third time was the charm for Reagan.

Right.

It was because it's very hard to take out an incumbent.

And the reason I supported Christie back then, and I don't now,

was because, you know, he's so flashy and idiosyncratic.

We probably were going to lose, but the only shot we had was this wild idiosyncratic guy.

I think Romney would crush Hillary.

I would do anything for him.

So if you ran ran Trump.

If you ran Bernie Sanders, it would be much tougher.

Bernie Sanders?

It would be much tougher to beat him in the Trump.

You think would be a better candidate than Hillary.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, I mean, because he would have to say that.

He cares about the American middle or middle-class working class.

Hillary doesn't.

She's like the elected Republican.

She cares about the Chamber of Commerce.

Reactions, panel?

It's going to be Marco Rubio.

You think it's going to be Marco Rubio?

I think Marco Rubio has got the best chance.

And if you saw the announcement he gave, which a couple weeks ago followed Hillary Clinton's stark contrast.

You know, he talked about yesterday, a candidate from yesterday gave a speech about yesterday.

I think Rubio has the charisma, the sort of freshness.

He's Hispanic.

He speaks fluent Spanish.

That's not nothing.

He's Cuban.

But he speaks fluent Spanish.

No, I understand that.

Sure, as they do in Cuba.

Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz doesn't speak Spanish.

Are cubes

also rapists?

No, they're good.

I think they're good.

They're good.

Okay.

All right.

I just.

I don't get this fascination with Rubio.

I really, honestly, don't.

What is his qualification to actually be president of the United States other than that he fills a demographic hole for your party?

He's more qualified than Barack Obama.

In what way?

He was a Speaker of the House of Florida.

He was a Speaker of the House of Florida.

He passed immigration reform.

He's a passion.

He passed bipartisan immigration reform.

He took for him to fight against immigration reform.

He helped lead him and he changed his mind.

Wait, wait, wait.

No, he fought hard for it.

Wait, wait, wait.

He passed it.

In the Senate.

In the Senate.

Yeah, and then he ran

U.S.

Senate.

That's not passing it.

He passed it in the Senate.

That's nothing.

It's all such.

You know how a bill becomes a law.

Yes, I am aware.

And he didn't pass it.

Did Barack Obama champion immigration reform when he was in the public?

I'll tell you what I think.

He didn't pass it.

He was a lieutenant on the Titanic.

I think that

you don't like Rubio.

No, I mean, all he's done, I mean, first he violated his pledge.

He ran saying comprehensive immigration reform, and that's amnesty.

I'm against it.

He gets people to vote for him.

What do you want to do?

Three years.

What do you want to do, though?

Still talking.

What do you want to do?

Then he spends

three years doing nothing but pushing amnesty.

What do we do?

And we know it's not popular, which is why I'd prefer Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton, who's now on the side of the Chamber of Commerce, because

the American people have three times shut down an amnesty in the last 10 years, and it's not because any network or any politician other than a few very small ones were opposing it.

It was the American people rising up and saying we don't want amnesty.

So if that's your big selling point, I just want to ask you to get it.

Nope, don't ask me to get any more.

In all seriousness, right?

So I'm with you.

I want to secure the border.

I think we need assimilation.

But if we have 15 or 30 or however, 30 million, however many illegals here,

what do you do with them if you don't have a pathway to security?

I think it's ridiculous to talk about it until the border is a cop-out.

No, it isn't.

No, it isn't.

You secure the borders.

I agree.

Let's secure the borders.

And then what are you doing?

In 1986, Reagan passed an amnesty saying, this is it.

We want amnesty.

We'll have border security.

It was a lie.

Then we got either 12 or 30 million.

Ronald Reagan.

Being against lies.

First, you want defense.

Being against immigration reform is for the status quo.

That means we keep the status quo.

The fact fact is, we have two million people working in the fields every day in America.

They provide us our food.

Now,

if I could,

and they provide us with food, and we should pay them a decent salary because this is America.

Number one.

Why should it be the money?

Not too.

We live within one

distance.

What about the other?

Number two.

Number two.

We are not going to deport our way out of this.

Mitt Romney.

Rip Mitt Romney got more white votes.

than any other candidate for the presidency of the United States, and he still got his ass whooped by Barack Hussein Obama by five million votes.

Because

and so my point to you Bill is there's this new American coalition.

It's young people, it's gay people, it's Latinos, it's Hispanic, it's people who believe in the environment.

And so when I saw Jeb Bush actually

attempt to broaden the tenth of the Republican Party, he had a diverse group of people.

He spoke in English and in Spanish fluently, and he was unafraid.

And that's why why conservatives can't win Hispanic votes.

George W.

Bush have to fluent.

Like there's some sort of

Hispanic vote.

You know what?

You're right.

That's a problem, isn't it?

And it's not a problem.

That's what George W.

Bush has to do with the future.

Why do Republicans have to be obsessed with winning Democratic constituency?

Why don't we, we start haranguing the Democrats.

Why don't we start haranguing the Democrats?

Why don't you guys try to cut off more of the evangelical vote?

Because you are losing with that.

That's 40% of the market.

Why don't you get the game on?

I'm going to go with one thing that Ann Coulter has to say.

I think it is absolutely a bit insulting to say that Hispanics are going to like Lemmings, vote for the Republican Party, because your candidate has an O at the end of the year.

Why should they like Lemmings?

But why should they like Lemmings?

Because the policies of the Democratic Party, every poll will show you, most Latinos agree with the policies of the Democratic Party.

They want the American people.

They're voting their interests.

They're voting the policies they agree with.

Marco Rubio turned against

his own bill.

Look, if you want

to

get the first sign you have to take off is that I don't like you, son.

Because as long as you have a hip, I get that.

I do not.

But that's not going to win you an election.

Because I'm one voter.

But

there are millions of voters out there.

And when Donald Trump, and I fight amazing

that the Republican Party of Samuel

Donald Trump on what he said, on what he said.

No one in the Republican Party.

It says, so if Jeb Bush challenges Donald Trump, challenges him, and wins and gets through some miraculously, gets through the Republican primaries, I think then Latinos will say, God, that guy championed our cause.

He took on the man that called us rapists and murderers, and he took him on.

And you know what?

They will reward him because he's open.

No, they're not.

All right, all right.

Let me go on to another subject.

But as George Bush did, he'll lose the Hispanic vote 60%.

But you know what it is?

If the Republican gets 40% of the Hispanic vote, he's the president.

No, he isn't.

Yes, he is.

No, you need 71% of the Hispanic vote, and Mitt Romney still would have lost 4% more of the white vote than he would have won.

So, what is it Republicans fixated on?

And I do not think you are speaking for

the Hispanics in this country because they're the ones that are.

Mitt Romney should have been whiter.

No.

I believe that's.

I believe that's

a conclusion.

Mitt Romney was not white.

God damn it.

If the Supreme Court rules against Obamacare, can we count on Congress to ensure that millions aren't left without insurance?

Absolutely not.

They're not going to, I mean, Congress is so dysfunctional at this point, but the irony will be if the Supreme Court rules against the Affordable Care Act, you're going to have millions of red state Americans who will suddenly have their middle-class insurance ripped out of their hands, while blue states who went ahead and formed exchanges will still have their insurance.

It'll be a crisis for those members of Congress in those red states that are going to be fine from their constituents that, wait a minute, I'm losing my health care?

I thought it was just going to be them.

And when they find out that it's going to be us, not them, I think it's going to be a problem for the Republican Party.

All right.

Thank you, panel.

Thank you, audience.

You were terrific.

But we're doing.

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