Episode 910 - Rory Dunn

Hi, he's Dave Shumka.

And he's Graham Clark.

And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode number 910 of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

My name is Graham Clark.

With me, as always, is a man who, well,

this will be the last time I see him for a whole month.

As you're listening to it,

he will be back, but I'm going to miss him.

I'm going to miss him, Mr.

Dave Shumka.

Yeah, we're doing a thing where we pre-tape a bunch of shows in the summer.

It's never backfired on us.

And I just want to say that I'm sure that by the time we're back, Hulk Hogan will be alive.

And God willing, that couple, no couples will have been caught cheating at a cold plate concert.

But

what else is in the news?

Yeah, so we're recording this a month before it comes out.

Maybe those Epstein papers will have come out in the next.

Oh, you actually want to deal with the actual future?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's going on again?

Oh, sure.

Everybody will be doing a dance called the squawk.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm certain that in the future, in one month, everyone will be doing a dance called the squawk.

Prove us wrong, Future.

Prove us wrong.

And you kind of did like the first move was kind of like a walk-like in Egyptian.

Yeah, but with just one hand,

sort of like a bird beak, and then it's

and I'm doing the squawk.

Our guest today is the guy who

they credit with coming up with the squawk.

He's a comedian.

He is traveling across Alberta in September, and he's recording an album in September here in Vancouver.

Yes.

It's Rory Dunn.

Hello, Rory.

Hello.

Thank you for having me.

You're welcome.

I think, wait, did you, you're traveling around Alberta in August?

I'm doing August and September.

I'm doing Alberta, Saskatchewan, and the week in Toronto.

Oh, nice.

So all over the place.

Hell yeah.

And you're from, you hail from Saskatchewan?

I am from Saskatchewan.

Oh, let's get into it.

Let's get to know us.

Get to know us.

Where in Saskatchewan?

I am from Woolseley, Saskatchewan.

Wolvesley?

Woolseley, Saskatchewan.

Wolseley.

Woolseley, Saskatchewan.

We have about 950 people.

Oh, that's his claim to fame, Woolsey.

One of the largest drug busts in Canadian history.

Nice.

Shout out to you.

You know,

shout out to my dad.

He was the one who was busted.

Is that right?

Yes.

Wow.

But the good news, he never went to jail.

That's the fun part.

How come?

He is a landmark case in medical marijuana usage history in Canada.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Wow.

Was he using it for medical marijuana purposes?

No, but he is a landmark case in it.

So was he able to get himself off?

That's not the right way to say it.

Was he able to jack himself off?

He drank off in court a lot, and they let him go.

They were just like, we're done with this.

Yeah.

Was the, but was he able to

stop drinking off or I'll hold you in contempt?

As long as you hold me, baby.

Keep judging me, everybody.

It's my thing.

Was that the way he was

able to avoid jail time?

Was he set as medical?

It was like they.

Give me a year.

I believe it was 1996.

I was five years old at the time.

The doctor in town actually paid for my dad's entire defense because he was a big advocate for medical marijuana usage.

And my father had a very bad back injury when I was very young, like two, three years old.

He fell four stories and broke his back.

So he was actually in a lot of pain.

So he did use it for that.

But he also smoked weed every day of his life since he was 15 years old.

So it's a little, it's a little fuzzy lines.

So he got off because...

a good defense from that and also one of the key witnesses didn't want to be he wanted to be a like a secret witness i'm not sure the technical terms but because my dad knew who it was,

the way the court worked is if he's like, no, I know who that is.

We want to be able to cross him.

And the guy didn't want to come forward after that.

So it fell apart because of that as well.

And what was the size of this drug bust?

I believe my dad at the time had over a thousand marijuana plants.

Jesus.

Okay.

It was big for the time.

Yeah, yeah.

I want to say it was, I say Canada.

I think it might have been the biggest in Saskatchewan and one of the biggest in Canada at the time.

Okay.

Yeah, when I asked how big it was, I was picturing like

garbage bags.

But if they're all but they're all just in your backyard?

No, they we had uh a pig house that we I grew up on.

Wait a minute.

It's a pig house.

And when the police arrested them, we're like, we're sending you to the pig house.

Great, it's in my backyard.

Yeah, we had like a pig barn that we weren't using anymore because we didn't have pigs anymore.

And that's where he had a massive operation there.

Plus a secondary small house that we used for storage that he had stuff in there.

And then there was a third house that pigs lived in.

They were standing on their back legs and like

cooking dinner and stuff.

They're very smart.

Pigs are smart.

The

like running

like a pot operation, don't you need like ready access to like doesn't have to be like super clean and clinical.

You would think so.

I will be honest.

I don't know much about the operations at this point because why?

Because you're afraid that you'll bust them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They'll come after me again if I say too much.

Reopen the case.

But

my dad, at one point, I remember as a teenager, got very mad and was saying talk about how me and my brother could have been the best weed dealers in all of Saskatchewan if my mom had just let my dad take us under his wing.

I was like, that's not a good thing.

Yeah, it's good that I'm not a weed dealer, Dad.

Who is the best weed dealer in Saskatchewan?

Did you hear like one day you'll be like Kirk

Michelson?

Yeah, Jerk Michelson from, you know, what do you want to say?

No, Watasquin's Alberta.

Oh,

Fairfield knows Turtleford.

Turtleford, absolutely.

The guy I

used to work with a guy from Saskatchewan.

I can't name the town.

What's the one Brent Butts from?

Tisdale.

Tisdale.

And he claims that it's...

Weighburn.

Yeah, Weighburn.

That's the one I remember.

Yeah, he says that the claim to fame of the town is still a guy who is like a champion water skier.

That he's like, that's neck and neck in that town.

He's like, yeah, but you're no water skier, you know.

They leather lakes.

Yeah.

They got a lot of lakes.

Were you a lake person?

No, I was a river boy.

Okay.

I grew up in a valley.

We had a real the Quapelle Valley and we had a really nice river that we go swim in in the summer and we catch frogs at and stuff.

That sounds like a very old-timey childhood to be catching frogs down in the river.

river.

Yeah, very country pumpkin.

Yeah, that was

I'm a proud country pumpkin.

Don't worry.

Do you ever go tubing?

Yes.

Yeah.

My sister's friend's

family's friend had like a boat.

It was a weird connection that eventually I got to tube with them, but I had no way of accessing it myself.

Oh, tubing like behind a boat.

Yes.

That's what I think of.

But he's thinking, are you thinking of tubing like

that?

Oh, that.

See, I always think of tubing as behind the boat.

Yeah.

We never, no, we never did like a river float.

Do you remember that video game?

That's the way to get drunk.

That's 13?

Yeah.

That's the place.

It was called Tubin.

And you would float down a river.

Now, this is from what era?

This is a video game from...

I want to say the 90s?

Yeah, maybe the early 90s.

Tubin, yeah.

And you would float down a river and like

throw stuff.

Sounds pretty good.

And you go down rapids.

Yeah, it's kind of old.

And then they came out with polar tubing.

Every year in Calgary, they would warn people, don't go near the viaduct.

And every year in Calgary, somebody would get killed at the viaduct.

It was just,

it was, you didn't go tubing at the viaduct.

That's the golden rule in Calgary tubing law.

What is a viaduct?

Excellent.

It's where people who are floating at a tube get killed most often.

Yeah, like a bridge, right?

Or

I'm thinking, is it an aqueduct?

I'm thinking.

Oh, an aqueduct transports water.

Yeah, yeah.

In ancient Rome.

That's the one.

You want to stay away from that.

Yeah.

Abby, my wife, grew up in Switzerland in a city called Bern, the capital.

And I believe there they have the river that runs through it, the Ara.

In that movie, it reminds me.

And there would be, it's like common for people to, on a summer day, at the end of the workday, to like pack pack up all their work clothes in a plastic bag and carry it with them down the river and float home love that oh that's awesome i've only heard of it happening that's very susical it's very susical yeah does and is that something like does switzerland get with their river freeze in the winter or is it not not in burn okay it's like but you wouldn't want to go tubing in december regardless right it's like the same climate as here oh oh really yeah so you could tube year-round.

I mean,

yeah.

Yeah.

But you wouldn't in the winter.

You couldn't tube here in the winter.

Too cold.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do people even tube the Fraser?

I don't know.

I only know the bow.

That was, that was our fairy.

Do people tube the bow?

Oh, people tube the bow, man.

In Calgary proper?

Calgary proper.

They jump off of the bridge in Fish Creek Park.

Oh, right into the water.

So cold.

And how did it work?

Was the bridge similar to the viaduct?

Yeah, except that it was

current day Rome.

That's kind of the water we get around.

We were told numerous times by all sorts of people in authority not to jump off that bridge, but we couldn't help

jump off anything as a kid.

No, not at all.

I mean, like, the couch.

But, like, yeah, I was,

I guess I was afraid of heights and also just not that strong a swimmer.

Like, and just afraid of not knowing how deep the water is.

Yeah.

Well, always the one that had been in the peer pressured into the group to going first was kind of the,

was the test subject.

The guinea pig.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Adults are always telling you to not jump off bridges.

And I've jumped off many a bridge.

I'm doing great.

Yeah.

Well, they're actually not, they tell you, they ask you if all your friends jumped off the bridge, would you?

And I think in this case, you do, because you let the first people, your friends, find out if it's safe.

And then you jump off.

I'm not going first.

The other thing is we would do sometimes, do you ever like jump off, you know,

like rocks where waterfalls were into

a body of water below something like that we never really had that just because uh that doesn't exist doesn't exist

uh i i did canoe up a waterfall in uh saskatchewan because in grade 10 every year uh there's like a grade 10 canoe trip up north like a week-long canoe trip and at one day you just stop and you it's like a rest date but there's really beautiful waterfalls and that all the teachers just like someone go canoe up the waterfalls and it's never a good idea it you you can't make it of course but that's part of the fun of it i gotta say i really miss the like at this grade you get to do a class trip yeah sort of thing uh

they were always so special yeah the only one that we did that really stands out is we did a thing that where you got to stay on a boat for a week out here out in the on the coast oh um

and it was uh it was called What the hell was it called?

The free water?

I mean, something like that.

And you were on the boat.

You like learned about sea cucumbers and stuff like that it was fun

you did it yeah yeah yeah out here yeah you should have come said hi oh i didn't know uh i didn't know your address at the time i know your current address but yeah

um

yeah uh i feel like we had uh times when we would jump off a thing uh where they we would have to like walk back without our shoes and stuff right like that was kind of the stupid oh yeah over rocks yeah over rocks and like no, we never were smart enough to leave one person behind to like throw down our shoes to us.

Yeah.

Or like wear those like

water shoes.

Yeah.

Because those are ugly.

Yeah.

Water shoes suck.

And they don't work, especially if you're walking across sharp rocks.

The water shoots aren't going to help.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're just plastic.

Did you have, it sounds like you had a pretty good like.

I disagree, actually.

I was going along with you.

I think they help.

What other, like when you were in high school, what is a country bumpkin do in high school?

I was a martial artist in high school.

There we go.

That was the one thing that I did that was kind of separate from everyone else.

I was the only one doing that.

What'd you study?

I studied Shukukai Karate.

Okay.

Which is, what is that?

It's like a form, it's an offshoot of Shudokai, which is

stupid.

You didn't know that?

It actually.

I'm trying, I'm gonna try to remember all this stuff because I haven't thought about it in like 15 years.

But

do you ever have karate dreams still?

You never dream you're in karate?

No, I dream about going back to it and being a master.

That'd be pretty cool.

Yeah, lord over those 12-year-olds.

I'd love to be the karate kid the next generation, I think.

I think that's already that the position's already been filled.

Yeah.

Anyway, give it together.

Take us back to Shudokai.

Shukakai.

So, Shukakai was an off-shooter, Shudokai, which started.

What about Shaka Kan?

We only did it while listening to Shaka Khan, of course.

And I think that

Shudokai, Lemiraka, Lemirruga, Shudokai.

Hey, sorry.

This won't happen again.

Please.

It started in Vancouver, the offshoot.

Oh, hey.

And then the original started in Japan, and then one of their students started their offshoot here with four other original students.

That's what I can remember.

I all I remember is to get the black belt, you'd have to come to Vancouver and perform with the actual, the people who started the first students of the original creator of Shukakai.

It's

another thing, Japanese thing that started here, the California role.

That's right.

Delicious.

I guess that makes sense.

And then I guess one of the students from there just moved to Saskatchewan and was like, I'm going to teach.

Yes, it was something like that.

Like, well, of the students of the students, it all branched out eventually.

My sensei was Sensei Glenn.

The wise old sensei Glenn.

Wise old Sensei Glenn.

He also taught me how to tie a tie.

Very nice bad.

Oh, wow.

And his sensei was Sensei Gus, who lived in a neighboring town.

Sensei Gus.

And then Gus was from Vancouver, and he was one of the original students of, well, the original students.

Wow.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now,

how many Guses have you known in your life?

Just the one.

Actually, two.

The mouse was Gus Gus.

So I guess three.

Well, I don't know that you knew the mouse.

I had a mouse that I fed in my room at college.

She was named Gus Gus.

Is that true?

Yeah.

Oh, man.

You'd be the worst roommate ever.

Stop feeding the mouse.

You're doing the opposite of what we want.

I've only known one Gus as well.

I've never met a Gus.

You knew a Gus?

I knew a Gus.

Went to college with a Gus.

Hey, Gus.

Shout out to Gus.

Have you ever used it?

The Skarate?

No, definitely never.

I've seen lots of videos.

Let's do this day.

I've seen videos where people try to use martial art against somebody in a fight and they just get clobbered because they like do a spin kick and the guy's like, I'm just going to grab you by the nose.

And just sandbag them, you know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly.

But like, have you ever, did you ever

help anybody?

I've never been in a fight.

No.

Never been in a fight?

Never been in a street fight or a real fight.

Did you ever say hiya?

Oh, all the time.

Yeah.

Not in, not all the time.

Did you ever go, kia?

Yeah.

Did you break any boards?

I broke a lot of boards.

Did you really?

I broke my friend's ribs

in a sparring match once.

Oh, wow.

And I broke

all my fingers.

Basically broken all of them.

This one, you can see it doesn't stop in the middle.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

The viewers will listeners will love that.

Well, just listeners, just imagine.

Imagine moving your figure and you can't stop it.

You can't stop it between this way and that way.

It doesn't do a smooth wipe.

It clacks into the low position.

Yeah.

Like a drawbridge.

Yeah.

Yeah, sure.

Now, what's the deal with breaking boards?

How does that

work?

To be honest, are the boards fake?

Oh, the boards were absolutely fake.

At At least for some of them were.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I knew it.

Or like pre-broken or like.

Probably like weaker boards or weaker quality wood stuff.

But I mean, it felt good doing it.

You're not chopping through like old oak or this is particle board?

You're going through a fender stratocaster.

Just random objects.

Yeah.

There's a video of a guy trying to do

the world record of chopping coconuts in half.

Man,

he doesn't get even close.

Just when he starts losing track of one, like they just keep not breaking.

Have you ever cut a coconut in half?

I never cut a coconut.

I did do bricks, which actually did hurt quite a bit.

Cinder blocks?

Never cinder blocks, but I did see Sensei Gus did like.

Good old Sensei Gus.

Good old Sensei Gus did like a, I want to say it was six inches of ice, like solid just frozen ice kind of stuff.

And he broke that, which was pretty cool to watch.

I mean, I know it probably isn't as impressive as.

I mean, it's all impressive.

Like, I

have no such a low pain threshold that, yeah, I couldn't punch through.

Like, it's not even solid.

Like, I'm not saying I, that, that, the fact that I have a low pain threshold means, yeah, I am strong enough, it just wouldn't hurt your mic.

No, none of that.

I mean, I couldn't do it, and it would hurt, and

I would give up.

Yeah.

And it's like, uh,

um, did you, it was a chop or did you kick anything you kick some boards but it was mostly chop and mostly punch mostly hands and like side of your hand yeah you gotta get yeah the wrist and like does your hand is your hand all bloody after or no no i never uh bled no just broke you just broke fingers

just broke fingers broke my nose really badly one time and it you're not supposed to do it with your nose man even i know that yeah that was the best was it your friend who after you broke his ribs he was like i'm coming for your nose no it was a different guy different guy completely Name names.

Brandon.

Brandon.

Brandon.

Sensei Brandon.

Sensei Brandon, you son of a.

Son of a gus.

Were your pals in it?

I didn't have any

school friends.

No friends.

I had no friends.

It was a very lowly existence.

No, none of my school friends were in it, but I did make friends with the other kids that were in it.

They were just from neighboring towns, so we didn't.

Oh, because I drove to, I went to Lemberg, was the town I went to, which which is like a half hour away from Wolseley.

This reminds me of when Napoleon Dynamite went to that like the 4-H?

Yeah, no, the self-defense class.

Yeah.

Was Sensei Rex.

Is that what his name was?

Yeah, with the America pants?

Yeah, Diedrich Bader.

Bader.

Yes.

So you didn't have anybody to kind of like chop it up with at recess or anything like that?

No, no.

I was known as the guy who did karate in school.

Did you ever do it in a talent show?

Oh, awesome talent.

Oh, I did at in when I was like 10 years old at Bible Camp.

They ended the week with a talent show, and they just knew that I did karate, so they're just like, Well, you can do something.

And I'm like, Okay, and they like gave me a start writing a poem, and they're like, No, no, no, no, no.

They gave me a stick, and I just kind of twirled it around like I knew how to fight with a stick.

Here's a stick, and go.

I believe the song, uh, Where's Your Head At?

by Basement Jackson?

Oh, there was a song.

They put on a song, and I did.

Do you know how that goes, Graham?

Where's your head at?

Where's your head at?

Where's your head?

And it's just me spinning a stick around.

Wow.

Who else was in the show?

Do you remember?

Oh, I do not.

I do not remember that show specifically.

No, this was Bible Camp, you said?

Yes.

Was that a yearly excursion?

Yes, yes.

A week-long Bible camp, Cat McKay.

I don't think it exists anymore.

It had a lot of violations.

They did have enough life jackets for everyone.

So anytime you went out canoeing, one kid just didn't have a life jacket.

Stay away from that aqueduct.

This is a canoe-heavy childhood.

Did you ever portage?

I did.

I did portage.

Ever portage?

You portage?

I hardly canoeed.

Go on.

More about your rustic childhood.

Well, I'll tell you this.

I'm not technically from Wolseley.

Okay, this is

because I've been hearing

there's a rumor, like, this guy's not really from Wolseley.

This is the expose.

I'm actually from Ellisboro, which is such a small community that it doesn't count as a community because it consists of two churches, a town hall, my family, and two other families.

Oh, wow.

But it is one of the first European settlements in Saskatchewan.

So that's why it still has, like, a bit of heritage around it.

Right.

So that it still appears on maps and stuff.

But

we can't count as a town.

Has anywhere actually been blown off the map?

Is that what they express?

Probably.

Yeah.

Small little towns where they experimented with the atomic bomb.

I'm sure they blew up.

old towns.

Yeah, but that's like historically significant.

Put it on the map.

That's true.

There's two churches in this one.

There's two churches churches and a town hall.

There's almost as many churches as there are families.

And is it like opposing religions or are they all the same?

They were one is a Catholic church, one is a Lutheran church.

They're not used anymore.

They're just more of like four tourist attractions.

You can grow marijuana there.

You can grow marijuana there.

Big house.

Big church.

We had a movie film there once.

That was pretty big news for the town.

What movie?

It was called Hungry Hills.

Very bad.

Very bad movie.

Very boring movie.

There's a tragically hip song about shooting a a movie once in my hometown.

Yes.

Everyone was in it for miles around.

Some kind of Elvis thing, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tragically hip,

these boys.

Yeah.

So

you, when did you move out here?

And was it like, wow, the big city?

Yeah.

Had you ever seen a traffic light?

Or a bus bench, something like that.

I saw an elevator for the first time.

That was pretty cool.

Your first time on a mezzanine.

Keep digging.

I love the idea of someone's first time on a mezzanine.

Yeah.

When did you move out, or did you move to another city and then move?

So I moved to Regina.

I went to film school in Regina for

five years for a four-year degree.

And then I was there for seven years.

And then I moved out here eight years ago now.

Okay.

Yes.

And what?

Did you make any films?

I did.

I worked on a few films.

I worked on another Wolf Cop, the sequel to Wolf Cop.

Yep.

If you do watch another Wolf Cop, you will see My Bear Ass in it.

Oh, nice.

Yes.

What's Wolf Cop one?

So Wolf Cop is a story of a cop who becomes a werewolf.

That's about it.

That's the full story.

And it's like so low budget that it made a ton of money.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, it was like a big, there was like a competition of some sort.

I can't remember.

Cinecoop or something like that, where the biggest,

most votes for a certain project would get a million-dollar budget to make the film.

Right.

And Wolf Cop won because they filmed the transformation scene, which started with the man's penis,

which you'd never seen before in a werewolf movie.

And so they answered the question, what happens when a werewolf's penis transforms?

We were all wondering.

Does it

get lipsticky?

Yeah, Red Rock.

It turns into a werewolf penis.

All right, then I'll say no more.

Yeah, exactly.

uh, I think, is it Gowan's You're a Strange Animal?

Yes, in that movie, during a sex scene.

Sure, I thought you were gonna say.

Oh, no, Moonlight Desires is the one during the sex scene.

Oh, well, they would both work.

They, who is that, Moonlight Desires?

They're both Gowan.

Because Gowan appears in another Wolf Cop.

Oh, does he?

Yes, because he started getting people to come up to him with like Wolf Cop, be like, Can you sign this?

And he had no idea what it was about, and then he watched it.

Apparently, he was a big fan, so he asked to be in the sequel.

Nice, Yeah, Gowen, for listeners who don't know Gowen, yeah,

study up.

He was a Canadian singer, is a Canadian singer.

His hits include Strange Animal and Moonlight Desire, not to mention cosmetics.

And

oh, there's one about being like a prisoner.

Oh, I only know that.

A criminal mind.

And then he became the lead singer of Styx.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

That's, I didn't know that that was.

I didn't know the connection.

Yep.

Gowan.

Wow.

Histo's good.

I like it.

Kind of very, very from the 80s.

I uses Peter Gabriel's backup band on that album.

Really?

Wow.

You know so much about Gowen.

I'm kind of, I minored in Gowen in college.

When you were

four-year program, you have to learn how to write a movie, make a movie, and then what are the other two years for?

You study different areas, like you start off with just like a basic general overview of what film is and like stuff like that.

You'd have to do film studies and everything like that.

Right.

What's your what, like, did you

did they show you like classic movies?

Oh, yeah, yeah, they showed us lots of classic movies.

What's your favorite, like, old-timey movie?

And by old-timey, I mean 1989 or earlier.

Uh, Paris, Texas is my favorite movie.

That's a good one.

Yeah, I actually have a Paris, Texas tattoo, which, if you guys could see, yeah, but uh, the listeners will love that one.

It's a lady's face.

It's a lady's face.

And Torzo.

Yes.

And I'd have to say Brief Encounter, another one, a favor of mine.

Brief encounter.

It's close encounters of a third kind.

Crazy.

It has aliens in it.

They fall in love, but they can't be together.

But yeah, no, I remember taking like documentary.

You'd have to take every

documentary only and then one year of narrative film.

Uh, it's very different from the film program out here because uh, the Regina one

is really about film studies more than right.

They really emphasize like the artistic side of things and less the commercial, how do you make a movie and make money at this side of things?

You uh, did they make you watch Nanook of the North?

They did, yes, yeah, which uh, famously, have you ever seen it?

No, it's it's a documentary where they go and meet um a group of what at the time were called Eskimos.

They're called elks.

That's right.

That's a deep cut for any CFL fans.

But there's a scene or multiple scenes where they're like presented with objects from

the new world.

And they don't know like there's, you know, they're using like a record player and like looking into it.

Is this a narrative or a documentary?

Documentary.

Okay.

And then it turned out like, oh, those guys had all that stuff.

Just pretend you don't know how to use this.

Yeah.

It was probably their stuff that they were.

I think so.

And he also was like, oh, can you go hunting seals with the traditional spears and stuff?

They're just like, we don't do that.

What are you talking about?

Like, here's some money.

It's like, okay, I'll go do that.

It's

that was one of the ones.

What else did we have to learn from the documentary?

And do you use this in your day-to-day?

You use a lot of your Nanook knowledge.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Anytime I'm up north, I say,

what's your favorite scene from Nanooka?

Play a Game Boy.

Can you play a Game Boy?

All right.

Oh, you got your own Game Boy.

Oh, cool.

What would be somebody from the North's favorite Game Boy game?

Probably tubing.

Tubing.

Tubing.

Yeah, the.

And you finished?

You got a degree in film?

Yes, I did.

Yeah.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I did not pay for my final semester, and they'll never get that money.

They stopped calling after a while.

So we're all good.

Yeah.

We're square.

Yeah.

We gave up.

Yeah.

Now, uh, I know this about you.

Coming up, you are going to move to some place that you've never even been to before.

Correct.

You're going to?

New Zealand.

He's going to go live in New Zealand.

Oh, why and why?

I've always, I have a weird interest in island nations.

I've always wanted to go to like Japan, New Zealand, Australia.

Jamaica.

Jamaica, Jamaica, specifically Jamaica.

And it's just like I'm,

I can still get the working holiday visa, which is 35 and under.

Okay.

So I'm just like, you know what?

I've been here eight years.

Might as well change, change it up, get away from the United States for two years.

What is so you're going there for two years?

Yes.

And you've never been there.

Never been there.

Don't know anyone there.

You don't know

the flight of the conquerors.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's see.

And do you have a plan?

Yeah, what's your plan?

Oh, good question.

Oh, you're really putting it to me here.

I'm going to start looking for a job and a place to live a week from now, basically.

Okay.

I didn't want to start looking too early.

Two months in advance, that seems reasonable.

So you're going in October?

Yes.

And what is the, like, do you know what island you want to be on?

I'm going to land in Auckland, which I believe is the southern island.

It's one of the two.

It's one of the two.

Yeah.

And I'm kind of just like, I'm going to still do comedy and stuff.

I'm a cook right now, so I'd like to not be a cook while I'm there.

Sure.

But we'll see.

I'm just kind of like, ah.

You'll get to cook kangaroo if you're there.

It's true.

That's true.

Or koala.

Or a kiwi.

I think you think it's a different country.

They don't have koala.

Kangaroos.

I don't think they have kangaroos there.

I don't think they have

the bird.

What's it called?

A kiwi bird?

A kiwi bird.

Yeah.

That's the real reason I'm going.

I really want to eat one of those birds.

Sounds delicious.

I want to see if it tastes like the fruits.

Oh, yeah.

Do they have the fruit there as well?

No, those are technically Chinese gooseberries.

Oh, man.

Fuck.

I lied to.

Do you guys like a kiwi fruit?

I think I'm allergic.

I don't enjoy the whole situation of scooping it out.

I love that.

You love the mechanics of

a soft-boiled egg.

It is like a soft-boiled egg.

But it's,

yeah, I eat them and and my mouth gets itchy.

But I think a lot of people do.

Yeah.

So I don't think I'm allergic.

I think that's just the way it is.

Yeah.

I love a good kiwi.

I don't have them often because they're expensive.

But they remind me of my grandmother.

My grandmother would always give me kiwis to eat.

They remind me of my grandmother.

She was a small brown egg-shaped lady.

She was green on the inside.

Yeah, she was fuzzy all over.

We're looking for a grandmother.

Can Can you give us a description of her?

Yeah.

Let me just get a

fridge.

I'll just draw you a face on this kiwi.

From the fridge.

No, those are.

Are those counter fruit?

I think they're counter fruit.

Yeah, I'm, man, I bought a melon and I'm not making my way through it like I thought I would.

A whole watermelon?

No, a cantaloupe.

Oh, I love a cantaloupe.

Bring it over.

Yeah, I should have brought it with me.

Oh, man.

We, yeah.

We've been buying quartered watermelons.

Yes.

Yeah.

Or full ones, too much.

And it's, you have to eat it too fast.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

It's fruit.

Yeah, I've got a pineapple that I ate some of before coming over.

Not, I'm not sold that that is, that it didn't start fermenting into alcohol, but,

or whatever things happen to a pineapple.

Yeah, I think they rot.

I think they just turn black and go bad.

Well, Sally chopped it up.

She's like, okay, we've got to eat this right away.

And I was like, how was it?

It was so yellow and juicy.

It was, oh, it's absolutely delicious.

Yeah, but uh,

we've talked about how I usually just buy the pre-cut ones, yeah, and this year they're they're they've been bad.

I think there might be some kind of

maybe they were affected by the tariffs or something, but they've all just been like white.

Have you had any peaches yet?

Yeah, yeah, I had two this past week, and they were fantastic.

I've been having

having mixed reviews, mixed uh results with my peaches, yeah, sometimes fantastic, sometimes

just bland.

Yeah.

What's your fruit fly situation this time of year?

Not too bad.

Yeah.

Mine either.

I'm saying I'm pretty good so far.

You?

I don't have any fruits, so no fruit flies.

No fruit for you?

No fruit for you.

Sometimes they'll just go around your sink.

Yeah.

What do you, why don't you have fruit?

I've been very bad in buying any groceries because I'm just like, I'm moving.

I don't want to buy it.

I don't want to have any green bananas.

Hell no.

Oh, yeah.

Are you slowly getting rid of all your stuff?

I've gotten rid of a lot of my stuff.

Yeah.

I had a collection of 1,200 movies, which is now almost all gone.

Did you have Paris?

I did have Paris.

I still do have Paris Texas.

But it might not work there because they got the NCTS.

NC17.

Everything has to be.

NTSC?

NTSC, yeah, the different.

I'm not bringing it with.

My sister's letting me store some things with her while I'm away.

So she's she's keeping me.

Can I store 1,200 DVDs?

No.

Can I store 500 DVDs?

Yeah.

Blu-rays DVDs.

I'm keeping all the Blu-rays.

All the Blu-rays made the cut.

What else makes the cut for keeping?

Just go through the other 499 movies.

Mostly Blu-ray stuff.

Some CDs which had sentimental value.

Sure.

Like the first Billy Towell, which was the first CD I was gifted.

And then mostly like family heirloom kind of stuff, uh, Pokemon cards.

Sure.

I come from a long line.

My grandma was a Kiwi, my dad was a Sharizard.

Well,

you know what?

That makes sense.

That tracks it.

Yeah.

You like, did you get rid of like your bed and stuff like that?

That will be going within the next month.

By the time this episode comes out, I will not have a bed.

I hope you can't.

It'll be bedless.

Where are you going to sleep for the last few days?

So on the tour, just crash at various people's house.

You're only on tour.

And then I'm here for like 10 days between when my tour ends and when I leave.

And that's also just couch time for old Rory.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, but you still got your couch.

No, other people.

Sorry.

Other people's couch time.

I got you.

I can't do it anymore.

I can't sleep on somebody's couch anymore.

Too rough a wake-up.

Do you ever sleep on your own couch?

I have done, yeah, when it's hot and they put on that air conditioner.

Yeah, or when you're in a fight with Sally.

Yeah,

I'm in the doghouse.

Well, like in an actual doghouse that we have in the living room.

That's true.

Pinky.

Yeah, usually it's a fun thing, but when I get in trouble, oh boy, oh boy.

Rory, who's your favorite Gilmore girl?

I'd have to go with Rory.

Yeah.

The one that I know of.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are there any other famous Rory's?

I know there's Rory Scovel.

Past guest Rory Scovel.

Rory Scovel.

There's Rory Cochran, who was on CSI Miami for a while.

Sure.

I don't know that.

Yeah, who's...

I'm going to look up Rory Cochran.

Is he the guy that was in Empire Records?

I believe so.

I think he was also in Daisy Confused.

He's that guy.

Yeah.

He's always got a sour pussy.

Do you have a picture of him smiling?

I don't feel like he smiles.

In Daisy and Confused, he's the.

Look at the bloodstains.

Yeah.

When they're climbing up the thing.

Backwards hat.

And they like pot.

Oh, boy, oh, boy, did they like pot in that movie?

Not, you know, like your dad liked.

Yeah.

My dad really liked pot.

Yeah.

Would he rip it out of a bong or was he a joint guy?

No, he was a joint guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not to sing it in a song, but he smoke it in a bong.

Very susical.

It's Dash Rip Rock, remember?

No.

Yeah, you remember.

He's from...

Oh, crap.

Dash Rip Rock is from.

In the Flintstones, maybe?

But no.

The band Dash Rip Rock had us the song, Let's Go Smoke Some Pot.

Oh.

You could sing it in a song.

You could smoke it in a bog.

Smoke a pot, pot, pot, pot.

You're making this up right now.

You remember it.

We've talked about it.

I don't know why I'm forgetting.

I've been smoking too much, pot.

Did you...

So, like in most families, if you get caught smoking pot, you're in trouble.

Were you in trouble if you abstained?

I am the only person in my family who abstained.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, I've never smoked pot before.

Oh, you could have been one of their greats, though.

I know.

I could have been the next cheech and or chong.

But

my dad, he never really had anything to say about it.

He smoked weed with my siblings all the time.

I don't know when that started, when they were teenagers or whatever, but he never really had anything.

He was very disappointed when I started drinking, and then he was very happy when I stopped drinking.

He hated drinking a lot.

Yeah.

So, but still to this day, never smoke pot?

Yeah, correct.

Wow.

Okay.

Really?

The black sheep of the family.

Yeah, they don't talk to me anymore.

Yeah.

Fair enough.

You're moving to New Zealand.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Well, that's bold, man.

It's bold to move to a country where you don't know anybody and don't not set up at all.

I'm excited.

I want to be amongst the sheep.

I feel like I could be a shepherd pretty well.

CEO's a shepherd?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Get one of those hooks.

That's what they have to cook.

To eat.

Yeah.

It's lamb.

Lots Lots of lamb.

Lamb chops.

Mutton.

Crack of lamb.

Mutton.

Those are the big three, lamb-wise.

I know on Hell's Kitchen, the lamb's always raw.

It's raw.

It's fucking raw.

My other favorite thing is he goes, fuck off, leave me alone.

Fuck off, leave me alone.

It's funny.

I only know the famous people from New Zealand who

left.

They must have their own celebrities in New Zealand, but I have to imagine so.

Yeah.

Well, we'll find out.

Come back in two years and tell us the state of the celebrity seed in New Zealand.

And also, like, all the things you buy there, like the milk will taste weird.

And,

you know, like the chocolate bars will be weird.

It will come in like tin cans.

Yeah, things like tin cans.

Yeah.

Lots of tin.

Yeah.

And yeah, it's just like that first couple weeks is going to be

who knows how you dial a number down there.

Exactly.

Yeah, you have to dial nine to get out.

Do they drive on the other side?

They do drive on the other side.

Okay.

That'll take a little getting used to.

Yeah.

But it'll be fun.

It's a fun adventure.

I've never lived in another country.

I haven't traveled a ton.

You'll have to go to google.co.nz.

Yes.

Oh, that's going to be a pain.

Yeah.

It's,

oh, the other thing when I was growing up and we went to Ireland, they get uh they probably don't anymore, but they would get movies late.

Oh, sure.

Oh, yeah.

New Zealand gets movies late.

Yeah.

I know that, yeah.

So by the time you're there, Superman might just be coming into theaters.

Ooh, I can be the first to watch it.

Wow, this new kid's pretty cool.

He was the first guy to watch it here.

And I saw him a punch through a brick earlier.

Kind of like Superman himself.

have either you guys seen Superman, I have, yeah, me as well.

You, Dave, no, no, Superman.

Will you go, do you think?

Um, I would have to have my kids would have to want to go.

It's it's, I would say it was suitable for kids.

Well, then they have no desire, yeah, yeah.

I like that they leaned into the Superman's dog narrative, and what's his name, Zappo, uh, crypto with like the currency,

Zappo, like the shoes,

uh,

retailer, yeah.

Um,

yeah, it's I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it, it was very, it was cartoony.

Yes, very cartoony.

I liked uh

Lex Luther, I can't remember the actor, Nicholas Holt, Nicholas Holt, he's a really good Lex Luther, really good, uh, really good Lex Luthor, really good uh

uh guy who owns Amazon, same person in this movie.

Oh, Bezos, Bezos, he was kind of

oh, I hope remembering people's names isn't important in New Zealand.

Me too.

You.

Yeah, my name's Crypt Atmos.

Yeah,

it wasn't like, you know, the other Superman movies were like so serious?

If you say so.

There was a character that asked why so serious.

It was a different movie.

I guess he didn't cross over with Superman.

But in this Superman world, there's so many superheroes.

He's just like one of many superheroes.

Nathan Phillian wears a funny wig.

Right.

Yeah.

It's worth it just for the wig, really.

Yeah, the wig's pretty good.

Yeah.

What was your favorite thing from the movie?

I liked

Skylar Guassano as Jimmy Olson, who is a legendary stick man in this one.

All the women love this man and he hates it so much.

Legendary stick man?

Have you never heard the term legendary stick man?

No, have you?

No.

It just means like a player, a guy who sleeps with lots of women.

Wow.

He doesn't like it.

No, he's constantly getting flirted with by this one girl that he can't stand, but she's the lead to his story.

So at one point, she's like, I'll give you all the information if we get to spend the weekend together.

And he kind of pauses.

He's just like, how much of the weekend?

Yeah.

And she saves her name in the phone as Mutant Toast.

Mutant Toast.

Some fun little jokes in the movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A big popcorn film, you know?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Would you ever, as being a film, would you ever collect those popcorn?

Never.

Yeah.

No.

Popcorn container.

Yeah.

You know, oh, the one they have now, he's like in a glass

box.

Yeah.

And he's like punching his way out.

Yeah.

It's that these popcorn buckets.

I know.

Why do they do that?

Do it.

Give me a big, nice plastic cup because

then I can use it for smoothies.

I can bring your Deadpool thing to the theater and fill that up.

It don't fill up a paper one.

I'll fill it up.

You can use the popcorn buckets for smoothies.

Yeah, that's true.

Just a really big smoothie.

Swinging it around.

Yeah, I went and saw a movie with past guest Alicia Tobin.

And for some reason, I ordered a large soda.

So big.

They're so big.

I don't know why I did it.

I usually got a small or a medium, but it was like large and extra butter.

Too buttery.

Too buttery, extra butter.

I agree.

Yeah, too greasy.

Do you ever add candies to your popcorn?

Yes, indeed.

I do.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, I also do.

As well?

I love it.

MMs or recently Reese's peanut butter.

Well, Graham's an allergic person.

Yeah.

I do MM's, but I could see because the Reese's, it would just kind of, it would really coat it.

Yeah, exactly.

It melts all over the popcorn.

Yeah, that sounds good.

I do MM peanut generally.

Yeah.

Oh, so it's like another crunch.

You got two levels of crunch.

Mostly so Graham doesn't steal your popcorn.

Yeah.

But I am always encouraging him to dig deep into my popcorn bucket.

I think there's a bit more in there for him.

You're not still hungry?

You're saving it till the movie starts?

I wonder if that's just an urban legend or if somebody actually did it at one point.

Somebody must have done it at some point.

Yeah, it's a so would bucket or bag work better?

Because they only do bag.

They only do bags now, yeah.

You know what we're talking about?

Yes, sticking your penis to the bottom.

Yeah, he's a legendary stick, man.

Yeah,

you know, maybe, I don't know.

I don't know if people are still doing it.

I hope not.

The problem is, what do you do?

Like, do you like, do you bring a knife?

Are you tearing it?

Are you

taking it with you into the bathrooms?

Or are you taking dick karate classes and you're smashing it?

Yeah.

Breaking your dick fingers.

Yeah, and also, you know, if you're waiting for it to get that low in the bag, you've got that boner going forward.

I mean, you

can let it rest a while.

45 minutes.

I don't make it through the

coming attractions.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

Wolf and Dad.

Sorry.

Ejaculating attractions.

That's why they're called that.

Trying to convince your dates that she only wants a small popcorn and she's like, no, I want a lot.

She's like, no, we don't want that long.

We also, it's going to make other things look smaller.

Let's just get the smallest popcorn.

You can kill popcorn.

Okay, but can we get it with so much hot, hot butter?

Scalding.

Lots of salt.

Can you put extra salt in there?

No, no.

Some of those ketchup

powders.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

And I don't mean the penis part.

I mean those flavor powders that you can get.

Oh my God.

No.

Would you ever put a flavor powder?

I like the white cheddar, but I don't do it very often.

Okay.

Yeah.

The dill pickle is the head scratcher for me.

Who would want that much dill pickle taste?

Yeah, I don't want any dill pickle taste myself.

I'm not a big pickle guy.

I feel like they were in novelty when I was a kid, but not the pickles?

The pickle chips.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, right?

Like the pickle chips were kind of.

But I don't need a lot of chips.

I only like novelty ones.

What's your favorite novelty chip?

Dorito Cool Ranch?

No, I guess I don't really like novelty ones.

They had pizza ones.

I remember that.

The hostess had pizza ones.

I want to try.

Apparently, there's like a

Doritos After Dark.

Doritos sexy.

Oh, God.

I'm going to Google it, but

it's like plate of nachos.

It's like tastes like a plate of nachos.

That sounds pretty good.

But it's like Doritos After Dark, but that's not what I...

Why am I calling it After Dark?

No, that's right.

It is Toritos After Dark.

And it's kind of got like a laser-y logo.

Yeah.

But they have a bunch of versions of them, but one of them is like replicates like nachos with whatever cheese and tomato and sour cream and whatever on top.

That's pretty good.

It reminds me of like in the 1970s when they had like sci-fi movies and be like, you can have a full meal in this little tablet.

But we've only put it on, we've only been able to put it on chips now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We haven't got to tablet form.

And it does not fill you up at all.

You know what you're going to experience down in New Zealand?

A whole world of new chips.

Oh, yeah.

Chips and gravy

brown chips.

Oh, yeah.

Hot pot pie chips.

Yeah.

And one of the ones that everybody.

It's not like Worcestershire, but it's something like...

Oh, like Marmite, Vegemite.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You're going to really hit the ground running Marmite-wise.

Marmite, Marmite witch.

Is it Marmite or Vegemite or both?

Vegemite is Australian.

I don't know if it's made the crossover.

Yeah, I think it died in the swim over with the kangaroos.

Thank God those kangaroos made it over.

Delicious, delicious kangaroos.

Have you ever eaten a kangaroo?

I have eaten kangaroo.

And?

It's good.

It's pretty good.

It tastes like meat.

Okay.

I like meat.

They call it meat.

I love it, but I don't eat it.

Yeah.

I was thinking, today I just could not remember what venison was.

I was like, is it buffalo?

Is it, what is it?

It's deer.

It's deer.

But I couldn't remember.

Like, sometimes the meat and the animal don't have the same name.

Like, chicken is chicken.

And beef is cows.

Yeah.

Pork and bacon and ham.

It's all pig.

Yeah.

And then turkey and goat.

It's just those.

But

kangaroo is just kangaroo?

I believe, yes.

They call it roumeat.

Roomate.

Roomate.

Dave, what's going on with you?

Well, I'm staying in Canada.

Yeah, you're not.

You've canceled your trip to...

Where were you going to go?

New Zealand.

Here's what's going on with me couple things had a couple of

Boring dreams.

Oh, yes now if you you've listened to the podcast before you you know about day's boring dreams.

I don't I've it's been a minute.

Okay, so

my I have boring dreams and I when I remember a dream It's never an exciting dream.

It's always my my most famous example is I had a dream that my travel agent was retiring.

that's why you can't go to new zealand i mean it was a crisis i was like how am i gonna go yeah exactly i can't get a good deal here's the dream i had two nights ago i was at a restaurant yeah with spencer and heidi from the hills oh damn that's not boring that that to me is pretty that's top tier and then spencer insists we were sitting inside it wasn't very busy and he was like we gotta let's sit outside

on the patio and i was like why

no trust me and then we went outside and it was raining and

Yeah, trust Spencer, he's an idiot.

No, Spencer's good people.

Um, the uh, uh,

uh, were you in Beverly Hills?

Is that where they were from?

Beverly Hills?

I guess you could, I could have convinced myself I was in Beverly Hills.

I love it.

Did you remember what you ate?

No, we never got our food.

Oh, like we just sat down, and then you woke up.

Oh, yeah.

The other one was: I was supposed to sing and play guitar at an open mic.

And I was like a little nervous because I didn't know what I was going to do.

And I hadn't practiced, but there was no time to practice, but there was time.

I kept thinking there wasn't time.

And then

I never ended up on stage.

But like, so much time passed.

And I was like, well, any second now, I don't have time to practice because they're going to call my name.

And I never did.

Did you ever, in real life, do an open mic with guitar?

Hell, little mama, do you think that I maybe did?

Whoa, whoa,

Really good.

Thank you.

You know what?

You're getting an extra spot.

You can go into another spot.

Oh, thanks.

Thank you.

Motherfucker.

So those are two quick dreams.

The other thing, I also watched the beginning of the Billy Joel documentary.

Oh, yeah.

Called Nanook of the North.

Yeah.

Joe trying to play a piano.

Yeah, do you know what to make of this?

And I really like a music documentary.

I really liked the Eagles one that was four hours and the Tom Petty one that was four hours.

It's the Billy Joe one.

Only the first episode has come out and it was two and a half hours.

Wow.

And I think it's a two-parter.

He, just watching that, so much good music.

You know, just a fun, fun documentary to watch.

Did you watch it?

No, but I'm excited.

I'm excited too.

Who?

It's on Crave.

He, I think, made an appearance on Bill Maher's podcast.

Club Random?

Yeah, Club Random.

And, like, did he smoke a cigar the whole time while Bill Maher smoked a doobie?

Bill Maher was smoking something, and I think Billy Joel's a vape man.

I think he had a vape in his hand.

But it looks to be he's either smoking a cigar the whole time or a vape that looks like a cigar.

Yeah, smoking a cigar the whole time during an interview of Power Move.

Let me just bring out this big Snogey.

Now, the thing I will say about the documentary, he actually

is a piano man.

Yeah, yeah.

Somebody once showed a picture of him playing a concert with his harmonica, added that it looked like Darth Vader when they first put the helmet on, when they take the helmet off.

Well, they keep showing, like, he's not

going to get canceled for him.

There he comes.

He's not the best-looking guy.

Yeah, but he was managed to get Chrissy Brinkley.

That's true.

But he's like...

Every picture you've seen of him, those are the best pictures available.

Because in this documentary, they pulled out the old ones.

And he's like, in the middle of a blink in every picture.

It's not in the middle of, that's just how his eyes are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you a Billy Joel man?

I'm not a Billy Joel man.

Oh, really?

I know very little.

My family didn't listen to much music.

Did you watch much music?

I did watch much music.

You couldn't resist.

So a lot of like the older, like, classic rock, classic pop from like the 60s, 60s, 70s, 80s, I know very little about actually.

Okay.

Because I feel like you

inherit a lot of that from your parents.

Or at least I was born in 91, so I would have.

I got into Billy Joel because of We Didn't Start the Fire.

I feel like that was the first Billy Joel

thing where I was like, this is cool.

The Follow Boy song?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One and the same.

Oh, I hope they ask about this.

Hey, do you like that they continued on yours?

I hope Follow Boy releases a new one.

Yeah, every two years.

Hogan blown away.

What else do I have to serve?

And we'll get to that later.

We absolutely will.

Is the first episode of it really good?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You could do this about any musician and I'd be like, this is the best thing I've ever watched.

Yeah.

Is he because I've always thought that Billy Joel was is he funny?

Huh?

I don't think so.

No.

I feel like maybe it seems weird that a guy like Billy Joe would take himself super seriously.

Yeah, he's not.

But

I think you're right that he doesn't take himself super seriously, but he's not funny.

Yeah, okay.

So like he's not like a stiff.

Were there any like

hot goss things in it?

Backstage shenanigans?

Well, I'm not through the first one yet.

So that's mostly about like...

Actually, it just really doesn't start like, he doesn't talk about like, I took piano lessons or anything.

Right.

It starts right off with, they wanted me to be in their band because I was the best piano player in town.

And then he and his bandmate,

he steals his bandmate's wife.

Oh, really?

Really?

Yeah.

They break up.

And then he's like, oh, I guess I'm kind of a piano man.

And he, oh, he, he

gets in a big dispute with his record company, and he's not allowed to perform publicly.

So he goes

and like performs under an assumed name at a lounge.

And all the people are like, man, what are you doing here?

It's like, you should be a big star.

And he's like, no, I like this.

But it's all

it's like the genesis of piano man.

Really?

Yeah.

Am I

having a false memory that he wore a piano tie?

I feel like I'm picturing him wearing a piano tie.

Let's look it up.

He definitely wore a lot of neckties.

Yeah, and I know he wore like, for sure, like a knit tie, that kind of skinny, skinny tie.

Nope, no, no visual proof of that.

I also am picturing him being on the huge piano from big, but I know that didn't happen.

Anyway, check him out.

He's Billy Joel.

He's one of the great piano men.

Yeah.

And wasn't he doing like a residency where he was playing every night?

I think he plays.

Madison Square Garden once a month.

That's so crazy.

But he also, I think he.

Well, I'm off to Madison Square Garden for my monthly concert.

Yeah, don't drive.

Oh, yeah.

Is there anything about his horrible, horrible driving skills?

Yeah, I think there's something impairing his driving skills.

Anyway,

I'll watch the rest of it later.

And when we record in a month, I'll have more to say.

Are you a documentary man at all?

I do like some documentaries.

I wouldn't consider my, like, if you name them, I'll watch them kind of thing.

The Tom Petty good documentary.

Have you seen it?

I haven't seen the Tom Petty Petty one.

What about the Eels one?

I have not seen any Eels.

Those are the big two.

Yeah.

The Rush one.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

There was a good

Twisted Sister one was really good.

There's a Gogo's one.

Got to check these out.

Yeah.

These are.

Are you a rock fan?

I'm more of like a punk guy.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So you would watch a No FX documentary.

A No FX documentary.

I watched one called The Other F-word, which was about punk guys are now dads.

So the word father.

Yeah, it was good.

It was fun.

Have you seen what's it called?

The decline of Western civilization?

Yeah, I have.

That one's a great one.

Yeah.

I like that one a lot.

It's a trio.

It's punk rock, then heavy metal, and then gutter punks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's like a like they're all two hours each, right?

That's a six-hour kind of run.

Six-hour run there.

Yeah.

Yeah, punk music's awesome.

But yeah, this is now.

This is the time now that we'd be making documentaries about these guys.

You got to get them in there before they die.

Exactly.

And the other thing I did is yesterday I went to the Anza Club.

Oh, cool.

You'll be familiar with it.

I'm joining the Anza Club.

Yeah.

The NZ part.

And

because there was a live show by this Instagram account that I follow.

Oh, cool.

Called canada.gov.ca.

Good name.

Good name.

It's a guy who does like pop culture, Canada, history, and

you know, posts about Rita McNeil and stuff like that.

And so

I went to the show and you get there and it's a slideshow

of like a bunch of kind of Canadian like

factoids and didn't really know what to expect.

Yeah.

Was he sorry, is he a musical guy?

He's no, he's just a...

Just like a Canadian fact guy.

Yeah, but he also like doesn't reveal his identity on his page.

Oh, so but then you got got to see him.

Oh, yeah, and oh, a feast for the eyes.

He wasn't wearing like a zodiac mask.

No, he's just a guy.

He's just a guy.

Okay.

But it was very fun, and he told us about,

oh,

there was like a theory about Brian Adams and Princess Diana having an affair.

Oh, okay.

And it shed some light on that.

Yeah.

He told us about

this guy.

Do you know

the the show Raccoons?

Oh, yeah.

Cyril Sneer?

Yeah.

Because the bad art bar guy.

He had the little tat-like faucet nose.

A guy who was arrested and then took off his clothes and

started and

put his penis between his legs and turned around and started jumping up and down and said to the cop, hey, do you remember Cyril Sneer?

And then while he was bent over from behind, the policeman was like, wait,

what's that?

And the guy had drugs stuck up his butt.

Yeah, so not the best mule in the biz.

No.

And then, like, the history of the Canadian tuxedo.

Oh, fun.

Yeah.

Bing Crosby.

Crosby.

Yeah, after he was turned away at the Hotel Vancouver.

There's a plaque about it in the Hotel Vancouver.

And then the other thing was,

do you know the Canadian artist Alex Colville?

Yeah, that sounds familiar.

You'll know some of the paintings, I think.

Like, this is the famous one with the woman with the

binoculars.

Binoculars, yeah.

What I didn't know that I saw in the show was that four of his paintings are in the shining.

Really?

Never explained.

Like, no one knows

why it's in there and what they symbolize.

Well, he was the one who painted the sets for Moonlight.

So

when I think about The Shining and arch, I just think of that giant

naked lady at Scatman Crothers place.

Yeah.

That's currently, that's what I have on my wall.

Oh, Sally hates it.

Yeah.

What's she going to do?

Yeah, exactly.

Well, you keep sleeping on the couch because of it.

Until you get rid of the fucking paint.

I don't care.

I'm just looking for a photograph.

I'm remembering a photograph.

It might have been a photograph or just like a hyper-realistic.

Let's look up.

Scatman Crothers.

Naked lady.

Did you

was that one of the movies you had to study in school?

I don't think we watched it in school, but I have seen it lots of times.

It's very good.

It's very good.

Yeah.

I recently watched the documentary on all of the conspiracies around.

What's it called?

Room 777.

Room 237, something like that.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's crazy.

It's really bad.

Is it a painting?

Yeah, it's hard to tell.

But if it's a painting, it's photorealistic.

He's got a pretty sweet setup there because he's got two, uh, he's got like two lamps like you would have in a hotel.

Um, but he's by himself.

So that's, you know.

And then there's another painting

above the TV.

Yeah.

And his

and his TV also has two lamps next to it.

Yeah.

Huh.

It's almost like a meticulous art designer

designed his room.

Huh.

Huh.

But yeah, that's a...

fun.

Yeah.

Fun thing to go to.

And you know what was great about it was that it was at 6 o'clock.

Yeah.

So you're right out of there by 7.30?

Yeah, 7.30 and then in bed by 8.

Oh, I think like while you're out on the town over by Main Street, a little bit to Dairy Queen on the way home.

Oh, I should have done Dairy Queen.

Yeah.

Seems unusual that you did.

You were not feeling well that day?

It didn't occur to me yet.

The one day you weren't feeling well, you didn't go to Dairy Queen?

I guess so.

No, usually I feel feel good every other day.

I eat Dairy Queen one day, then I feel terrible the next day, and then I eat Dairy Queen, and then I feel terrible.

But I feel great on those days I'm eating Dairy Queen, right up until I eat it.

No, I kid.

Dairy Queen, you're number one.

Number one.

What's your favorite thing for Dairy Queen?

I'd have to go classic Oreo Blizzard.

Okay.

Yeah.

If I had to, if under pressure, classic Oreo Blizzard.

And you are under pressure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Graham's pointing a gun at you.

Under the table, old West style.

Yeah,

is that peanut butter parfait?

Is that from Dairy Queen?

He sure is.

Is it good?

It's fine.

Is it, what is it, ice cream with chocolate and then nuts on the cup?

Yeah, it's like soft-served vanilla, chocolate, sauce, and peanuts.

I think.

But not like a peanut sauce or anything.

I don't think so.

I think it might have a peanut sauce.

Might.

I can't remember for sure.

Let's look up the food menu from Dairy Queen.

Now, this is.

And yeah, and how it jives with the Canadian food guide.

How many things.

We want burgers and sandwiches, just chicken baskets.

Meal deal.

I think I want

treats.

Treats.

Yeah.

There's Blizzard treats a plenty, and of course, classic cones.

Classic treats.

Vanilla cone.

Chocolate dipped cone, crunch and cookie dipped cone, which is blue.

That does not sound classic.

No, it's not classic, and it's not as good as the regular chocolate.

Now you've got your classic Sundays.

The one with the red one looks like a murder scene, always.

I always thought it looked like blood.

Um,

and then no pineapple sundae, you should get that.

Oh, yeah,

um, and then you've got banana split, peanut buster parfait.

Yeah, it does just looks to be peanuts on fudge.

I didn't know you could get a banana split there.

Oh, yeah, yeah, they got everything.

Wow, they are the queen.

That's true, yeah.

Yas,

um, they say,

and of course, uh, dilly bars, dilly bars, non-dairy dilly bars, buster bars.

I'm going to go to a buster bar.

I told you about the guy at the Dairy Queen, the employee, when it was like exactly 9 o'clock.

He just turned off the lights.

This is closed.

Good for him.

Yeah, get the fuck out.

Yeah, this is closed now.

Well, Dairy Queen, we salute you and we salute Canada.

Yeah.

Yeah, Clanada is good enough.

What's going on with you, Graham?

Oh, Dave.

It's time for my favorite

only last time ever.

I think, first of all, I need to do some celebrity birthdays.

Shut up, Dave.

Oh, Dave.

Time for my favorite segment.

The last time ever segment.

Hulkogenus.

Hulkogan news.

It's a hulkogen news.

Oops, the hulkogen news.

It's a hulkogen news.

Oops, the hulkogen news.

It's a hulkogen news.

Oops, the hulkogen news.

It's a hulkogen news.

That was the Hulk Hogan news theme sent in by Tom B.

On November 4th, 2012.

Wow.

We have

about a dozen of these.

Of Hulk Hogan themes?

Yeah.

Do you have another one?

Maybe ready to go?

Shut up.

It's a Hulk Hogan news.

It's a Hulk Hogan news.

It's Hulk Hogan Doo, and it's a Hulk Hulkogan news.

It's Hulk and Dooley.

It's Hokoga and it's a hook.

It's Hoka Hogan and it's a Hoco.

Nice.

That was a little

stank on it.

Yeah, they're all very good.

Thanks to everyone who sent these in 15 years ago.

Hell yeah.

Brother, brother, brother, brother.

I feel like that could have been in Fight Club.

That

was

the Dust Brothers.

And so this comes out at the end of August.

Yeah, we're...

Hulk Hogan's still dead, I assume.

As listeners of the show know

from back in the day, that I grew up a Hulk Hogan man.

And you've only grown to love him more.

Yeah, he's just gotten better and better.

Everything he says just puts him in higher, higher esteem.

But grew up.

Did you a wrestling guy growing up?

Or only karate?

I had a wrestling video game, but I didn't watch wrestling.

So I knew some of it.

That's the way to do it.

Yeah.

What wrestling video game?

It was WWE Royal Rumble for the Sega Genesis.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Was Doink the Clown one of the characters in that one?

No.

Oh, no.

I remember.

Was Sean Michaels in it?

Sean Michaels was in it.

Stone Cold?

Stone.

No, not Stone Cold.

Sega Genesis.

Great.

So Hulk was in it.

Hulk was in it.

Ruse the Barber Beefcake?

No.

Undertaker was in it.

The tax man, IRS man,

that hasn't aged well.

You had a segenesis even though you were born in 1991?

Yes.

A country pumpkin.

Yeah.

You're older than you.

You probably shared a birthday with it.

Yes.

Yeah.

Are you?

Is that a good joke?

I don't know.

We'll review it.

We'll watch the cameras.

Yeah,

so grew up loving the Hulk Hogan, vitamins, prayers, the whole shebang.

He was like the original merchandise guy for the WWF.

He was the first guy to turn into a kid's.

Did you watch the Saturday morning cartoon?

Rock and wrestling?

Absolutely.

And you know who did the voice of Hulk Hogan?

Brad Garrett.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

He had like an extensive kind of voiceover career before he became

Raybud.

Ray Rayburn.

Yeah, he does have that voice.

That would explain his career.

So watch that, would watch him.

You know, he wasn't like a guy who'd do the weekly show.

He was only a main event guy.

And then, you know, it turns out all these years later, a lot of people testify that he was a bad, bad guy.

He was a union buster and he wouldn't.

I mean, it oh, unions.

It was a really good 80s mashup.

But he,

yeah, at the time, unbeatable.

He was the face.

And then in the 90s, switched over to being a bad guy

in more ways than one.

Yes, and then in the 2000s, he

became even worse.

Yeah.

And as you,

maybe the listeners don't know.

He was always a guy, very tanned, very tanned, very oily man.

Yeah, maybe the listeners don't know.

He was a

who did it, was described as a condom full of walnuts, or was that our mother?

That was our switch on here.

I think past guest Ryan Beale would say that he was a hot dog man.

Yeah,

he was hot dog or colored, maybe flavored, and had red and yellow accessories.

Ketchup and mustard.

Yep.

What did I say?

Red and yellow.

Oh, red and yellow.

Yes, ketchup and mustard.

Yeah.

Never a relish.

He didn't have like a green ring he would wear or something like like that.

Anyways,

no one had a green ring.

Well, there was one guy.

And then, you know,

I stopped watching wrestling when I was a teen.

Be honest.

I got back into it as an adult.

But, yeah, there was a hiatus where it was too.

It was too dark, too dark for me.

I liked it silly.

And so, and then Hulk Hogan, he just wouldn't stop wrestling.

His age progressed, his ability to do wrestle didn't,

and he had a lot of surgeries, but he still couldn't give it up.

He still, if, if he lost, it was because somebody cheated him.

He would never lose, honestly.

And even then, he would like, I got my foot, my foot was on the rope.

You know, you counted me out, ref.

And then he always got that championship belt back.

But a lot of people hated him in wrestling.

A lot of people.

Sure.

Andre the Giant famously hated him.

And

he would, the thing is

called like putting somebody over, right?

It's what an older wrestler would like, okay, I'll let you win.

Yeah, Hulk Hogan never did that.

Oh, okay.

I don't think he ever put anybody over.

Now, we did a for years.

Well, not years.

I feel like it lasted a year.

Yeah.

But

every week, you we would, whatever we were doing, usually Overheards would get interrupted with celebrity birthdays and Hulk Hogan news.

Yeah, uh,

whose birthday is it today?

Still waiting for feedback on that, by the way.

Um,

but uh,

and we would learn new things about him every week.

Yeah, he was a big part of the show.

Oh, by the way, he's dead now.

Yeah, he's dead now, yeah.

So, you can, but the fact that we're recording this a month before it's being released, you can stop.

Uh,

yeah, yeah, yeah, what I assume is people are like uh sending us messages being like, Do you guys not know about this yet?

My uh, phone was blowing up this morning.

But he,

yeah, in the past couple of years, he goes, he was a racist guy.

Yeah, he was racist.

He had that sex type.

I won't hold that against him.

Yeah, no, he's just unfortunately, he was so full of sushi.

I thought it was pasta.

Yeah, somebody pointed out that everybody thinks it's pasta, but it was actually sushi because he had pasta mania.

And that's why I think people.

Do you know any of this?

Pasta mania?

No.

Hulk Hogan had a restaurant in the Mall of America the past guest Kulap V.

Lysock worked at called Pastomania.

And one time she was there and Randy Macho Man Savage was there as well.

And the two of them had a pasta eating contest.

Hulk and Randy.

No, Kulan.

We're going to make you put Macho Man in his place.

And then he had a sex tape, which is what led to the

gawker being shut down.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a little documentary about that.

I do know the sex tape gawker stuff, the pasta stuff I was unaware of.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

But in the sex tape, he does.

He can hear him saying, oh,

I'm a pig.

You're a pig.

I feel like a pig.

Because he's so full from, I guess, a sushi dinner.

And then he...

Sushi, I don't find very filling.

Well, if you eat enough of it.

I mean,

it's true, but boy, pasta really fills me up.

I could not have sex after being too full of pasta.

No, I know.

And he's not just having sex with just anybody.

It's with his pal's wife.

Yes.

Who apparently, like, really dogged him for years.

Like, come on, Hulk.

Put that atomic leg drop to good use.

Yeah, I'll take you up for all you can eat, sushi, and then go home and have sex with my wife.

Show us the little Hulkster.

Come on.

Apparently, it was big.

Yeah.

He got the name Hulk because he was on,

Kirk Douglas had a, is that right wasn't there a guy that had like a TV show Michael Douglas uh in the 70s anyways he was on San Francisco that's the one there was a talk show and I can't remember Mike Douglas Mike Douglas yeah and he had Lou Ferigno on who was the Hulk

and Hulk Hogan was on and Hulk Hogan was so much bigger than Lou Ferigno he started calling himself the Hulk he had to pay uh royalties to Marvel for the rest of his life really yeah and his life is still happening?

Yeah.

As of this recording.

Not anymore.

Oh, okay.

But we're not counting out some sort of resurrection because this could be all wrestling.

He definitely did that a lot.

Yeah.

He thought, was there a word for that?

A work.

This will be a work.

So he looks like he's about to lose.

Yeah.

It's like he,

you know, it's a storyline.

Like, oh, Hulkoke is dead.

And then at a main event, he'll come out, ah, check me out.

I'm still alive.

But as far as we know, this is not a work.

As far as we know, he's dead.

Oh, and on the Canada, the Canada.gov.ca show I went to, he taught us about the Voros twins as well, who are the wrestling Da Vinky twins.

Are they Canadian?

Yeah, they're from here.

Shit!

When last time Cole Cabana was on the show, they picked him up.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The twins that were kissing each other, were they?

No.

What twins were that?

Those were the island boys, I think.

The island boys.

Yeah.

That was their claim to fame, is that they were, what, brothers, and they would kiss each other on the mouth?

I just know that they exist.

I'm not sure.

I didn't investigate much further.

I saw them kiss.

I was just like, that's enough for me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You ever kiss a sibling on the mouth?

Wait, do you have siblings?

I have multiple siblings.

I have not kissed any of them on the mouth.

I haven't kissed my birth siblings on the mouth.

Well,

let's not write it off.

Did you say your birth siblings?

Did you specify your admirable?

Oh, I said.

Sure, my adopted siblings, yes.

My step-siblings, of course.

But my birth siblings, no.

My half-siblings, they get a little pecked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But yeah, he's

the last big thing he did as a celebrity was endorse Trump, tear it off a shirt.

It had Trump 2025 under it.

Oh, we.

And that's what put him over.

That was it.

Yeah.

And many of them.

Trump over.

At many of our live shows, you've ripped off your t-shirt.

Yeah.

There was one.

I wonder if there's video of the one.

There's definitely photos of of the one with Harry Konalubu.

Ho Honda Bolu.

And where you just, we could not get that shirt off you.

Because the thing that I learned when creating a rippable shirt, you have to cut off the neck

ring or whatever, because that is not going to rip.

No, no.

And so

I think it was Max VenCon East.

Yeah.

You started ripping it off.

It wouldn't come off.

And we tried to help you.

And it really kind of hurt.

Yeah, it really hurt my neck.

There was one where you, I think it was a Max FunCon where you ripped off like multiple shirts, like layers and layers and layers.

And he in his later days would have later days, bro.

He would have it with all the neck ring and everything cut off.

And then there'd be also circles in the back.

Yeah.

Which I think made it even easier for him to rip.

I'm not going to do it.

Come on, do it.

No, I don't have any circles tied in my back.

Rory, come on.

If anybody can do it.

it looks like a pretty new shirt, though.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

This is a nice shirt.

No, okay.

Yeah, it's one of the nice shirts.

Yeah, so we wish him the best.

It's a bummer.

It is a bummer.

It's a bummer.

He never redeemed himself.

Yeah, and he, it's.

In our eyes, maybe in your eyes, he's the best champ ever.

He's a very model of a modern major general.

He's got information, vegetable, animal, and mineral.

But yeah, he, we don't know.

Oh,

we know maybe a cardiac arrest.

Nothing's been confirmed.

Oh, yeah.

I never get.

Remember when people were like, what happened to Gene Sim or Gene Hackman?

Oh, yeah.

I don't really want to know.

Yeah.

Release the Hackman files, everybody was saying.

No, sorry, Gene Hackman.

But one of my favorite all-times Hulk Hogan's things is when he was in court for the Gawker thing, he wore a black bandana.

A little more somber.

Around his head.

Yeah, around his head.

Yeah.

I think we

speculated about formal Hulk Hogan wearing a tuxedo with no sleeves,

which I'm sure he did at one point.

Oh, sure.

He was recently remarried from like three or four years ago,

away from his wife that was part of his reality television franchise, Hogan knows best.

I always thought that my dad kind of looked like Hulk Hogan.

Oh, yeah.

I think it was mostly that they both wore bandanas and had glassy eyes from smoking a lot of weed all the time.

I think those were the only two similarities.

Did your dad wear the bandana Hulk Hogan style?

Yeah, all the time.

Yeah.

Okay.

That is very, I don't think I've ever known somebody who wore Hulk Hogan style

handkerchief.

But yeah, wearing the black one was the best.

This is serious business.

I put away the red one.

Your honor, brother.

I'm taking the stand today.

I've got to put away the Hulkamania one.

Anyways, a life well well lived.

Yeah, he had it all.

He had it all.

I could have,

and anybody could have in the last few years of his life gone and met him.

He had like a store in

Palm Beach, Florida.

Yeah.

And you could go there and he would sign a picture or something.

I think past guest Steve Bays went and got us some merch.

Yeah.

He got assigned a headshot.

I got to get a new headshot.

I'm going to do exactly the same as Hulk Coast.

I think maybe like a beer koozie, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyways, I hope the store sticks around.

Shout out to Brooke and his son, Nick.

Yes.

But yeah,

that's it, man.

So you want to move on to some overheards?

Sure.

On Judge John Hodgman, the courtroom is fake, but the disputes are real.

Ryan would say, I'm the Gumby of this family.

He's just not.

Claiming to be Gumby is an un-Gumby-like claim.

No, it's just Gumby and I being our authentic selves.

So, what's your complaint?

Too many sauces?

There are no foods on which to put the sauces.

Have we named all the sauces on the top shelf yet?

Not even close.

You economize when it comes to pants.

Truly, it's not about the cleanliness of the pants.

Well, why isn't it?

This is what I want to know.

Judge John Hodgman, fake court, weird cases, real justice.

On maximumfun.org, YouTube, and everywhere you get podcasts.

It's hard to explain what happens on Jordan Jesse Go.

So I had my kids do it.

Saying swear words.

Saying swear words.

Yeah, um...

Bad jokes.

Bad jokes?

Bad jokes.

Maybe it's like you tell people that you're going to interview them and then you just

stay there like

really quiet and try and creep them out.

It's just weary boy.

Because of Jordan, right?

Not me?

Because of both of you.

Oh.

Subscribe to Jordan Jesse Go, a comedy show for grown-ups.

Overheard.

Overheard's a segment of the show where, you know, Dave and I, we're hard up for these, but we always love when the guest brings one.

And if you have one you want to send in, you'd send in it to sby at maximumfund.org.

Rory, do you have an overheard?

I do.

I do.

Okay.

I recently went out for a sushi lunch by myself.

Oh, no.

You didn't have sex after.

No, you didn't overeat.

It was because I was going to have sex with my friend's wife.

You got to prepare.

Yeah.

You got a carbohydrate.

Like, you're videotaping this.

I'm going to make it a big performance.

Did he know he was being videotaped?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

No.

I think that was part of it.

But, you know, if you're going to get Hulkogan and have sex with your wife, you're gonna want a memento from that, you know, of the video, yeah, yeah, yeah,

not just a ripped shirt on the floor,

yeah, or whatever sushi like leftovers,

he didn't leave anyway.

Go ahead, yep, go on.

Uh, so I was out for sushi by myself, and there was a uh table beside me of four college-age women, and they were uh talking very loudly about their sex lives and their boyfriends and all the boys they were seeing.

And one of them, at one point, I wasn't fully listening, but her one of them like listing off names.

And it turns out they were like names of guys that asked her out, but she said no to.

Sure.

And

one point she says, and then Brandon, and one of the other girls was just like, oh, I thought Brandon was really nice.

And then she says, yeah, he's 5'6 ⁇ .

How nice can he be?

Oh, yikes.

Shot fired above the bow.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's tough.

I feel taller now.

I think the reign of the short kick is coming to an end.

I feel like.

Yeah, it's been a hard battle.

They've had it too good for too long.

Hulk Hogan, six foot seven.

Whoa, really?

Yeah, isn't that crazy?

But because he had all these surgeries on his back, he shrunk.

I think he was six foot five.

I think I remember, yeah, he lost like two inches.

At least,

like,

Andre the Giant was a giant, but Hulk Hogan was also a giant.

Yeah, he was also a very big man.

I feel like when I was a kid,

that's Andre the Giant was the tallest man.

And tall men, maybe it's just because I grew up in Alberta or something.

There were no tall guys.

There was like two guys at my high school who are like tall.

Yeah, I think the only, there's only two kinds of people from, there's only two things from Alberta.

There's steers.

Yeah.

I forget the other one.

Tiny guys.

Yeah.

After every overheard, I'd like you to go as a Hulk Hogan facts.

Okay, absolutely.

How tall are you, Rory?

I'm 5'7 ⁇ .

5'7.

Yes.

How nice could you be, though?

You have to be extra nice.

I have to be very nice.

I think I hover somewhere around around 5'8.

But when I was growing up, that was considered average.

And now I feel like it's considered short.

5'8 is like the average height of a man.

I look it up every day.

Oh, yeah.

Just to make sure.

So I am the shortest you can be, the tallest you can be while still being short.

Which is my claim to fame.

And yeah,

I feel like...

With dating apps, that's when the rise of the tall guy.

It'd be cool if all your weed-smoking siblings were like 6'8

doing wrong

my brother is 6'4

but both my sisters are like five feet tall so yeah fair enough

easier to kiss them on the mouth

Dave you're in the sixes are you you're six I'm maybe 5'11 and 7'8 change yeah there's a great

Instagram account where this guy goes to gyms and says how tall are you and then they actually measure him oh yeah yeah 90% of the time, guys lie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But once in a while, and they lie by it quite a bit.

Yeah.

Because this is what the ladies want now.

They want

dating people solely on an app,

then you just need data.

You're a data collection device.

That's true.

Then you're just there to be like, well, I'm ruling you out.

There's a, sometimes you would come across a profile, usually a woman, but not necessarily.

They would have a profile that started kind of with like, look, okay.

Here are the rules.

Did you

like before phones, like people dated, but I don't think dating was like

you would just meet someone at a party or at school or someone at work, go out, but like the idea of like online dating was weird.

Yeah.

And now it's been normalized and that's fine.

But I just feel like it swung so far that.

that like people are just like meeting strangers and going out on dates, which was just not a thing you would do.

You would go on a a date with someone you had met.

Yeah, and it was,

was it the Classifieds where people would

post their love?

That's where one of my uncles met one of his wives in the Classifieds page.

Really?

Yes.

Yeah.

They did not last very long.

I was going to say they didn't really stick.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's what the Piña Colada song's about.

About cheating on your wife with your wife.

They both post wanted ads, I believe, and then they respond to each other, but they're married to each other.

Yes.

But aren't they both disgusted with

each other because they're both planning on cheating?

Right.

Yeah.

So if I'm tired of my lady,

I was tired of my lady.

Something.

And so

he writes the post.

If you like piña coladas are getting caught in the rain.

If you're not into yoga.

And you have half a brain.

Why would you say that if you're married, like, or with your partner, unless the partner is into yoga and stupid?

You're like, I'm so sick of my stupid yoga wife.

I don't want to be part of any yoga lifetime.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It just says you're random details.

You have that.

You know you have that already.

I never knew that about you, that you're not into yoga and you have half a brain.

And then what was her ad?

Was that also read in the song?

Is she making love after midnight?

Or maybe she didn't have an ad and she just responded to the ad.

Maybe I got that wrong.

Okay, maybe, yeah.

She saw the ad responded to.

But she knows that if if she responded to the ad, she is into yoga.

So, why would she respond to that ad if he says, if you're not into yoga, she would.

And we're the first people to examine.

Break this down, yeah.

It's one of the comments.

If you're not into yoga and you have, have a brain.

If you're like Megan, love it midnight to a dude in a cape

that I'm the love that you've looked for.

Write to me and escape.

Yeah.

And then somewhat.

then in the like the early 90s, there'd be video

services where you would get a tape of people

dating like a tape of like people doing two minutes of

crowd work.

But yeah, there was a spoof on Mad TV called Lowered Expectations was the name of the game.

Yeah.

Have you done any any of the

social apps?

Dating?

I've been on all the dating apps.

Any luck?

No.

I mean, I've had dates, but I also just don't take it seriously enough to actually mostly because I'm moving to New Zealand, so I'm just going to.

That's true, yeah.

Get one last

with a can.

Yeah, I'll take a lover for the summer.

That's yeah, yeah.

Time's running out, though.

The thing about summer loving happens so fast.

It's true.

Look up those lyrics.

Yeah.

But she never writes an ad.

She's responding to the ad.

Yes.

So I waited with high hopes, and she walked in the place.

I knew her smile in an instant.

I knew the curve of her face.

Wow, what a curvy face on this broad.

Yeah, she's like the elephant man.

Wow.

She was my own lovely lady and she said, aw, it's you.

Then we laughed for a moment and said, I never knew that you like piña coladas,

et cetera.

But yeah, this

what would you

do in a date?

Is this like coffee?

Would you show up or grab a drink?

I've done coffee dates, I've done just general walks.

I like to take go for like uh ice cream treats.

Nice.

That's what I uh I've taken them for.

I have a friend who has uh puppies.

I'll take them to go pet the puppies.

That's great.

Uh, yeah, do they have perpetual puppies?

Yeah,

it's a puppy bill.

Uh,

sure, okay.

Yeah,

I was on the...

It was before there were ones where it was like the woman has to

instigate or whatever.

Yes.

Bumble.

Bumble.

And then what's hinge?

What was the deal with hinge?

Hinge, it's like you can respond to anything.

You can like respond to a photo or any of the

questions they answer directly.

Oh, okay.

So if you they answer one question that you like, you can be like, oh, I like this one.

I mean, you go on.

I have half a brain.

No, do you have half a brain?

I literally have half a brain.

It's left side brain looking for right side brain.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One, yeah, can we function as one brain together?

Dave, do you have an overheard?

Sure, I do.

So this was, I think, a couple

having one of these dates.

Oh, really?

It was an afternoon, a couple outside of a Starbucks, and a man and a woman, a young

early 20s

man and a woman.

And I was just running in because I ordered a little treat for my children on the app.

And I was running in and running out.

And as I walked past this couple sitting outside at a table, I just heard the woman say, so then God didn't create the world?

That should be on your profile, man.

I'm not going to sit here and mansplain.

Yeah.

yeah, exactly.

And also, geez, that's a big, that's a heavy one for a first date.

Yeah, I don't know if it was first, it was early on, though.

Yeah, yeah, they didn't have that kind of comfort and

easy rapport.

Yeah, was there a Christian?

I guess there's Christian Mingle, Christian Mingle, yeah, Christian Bumble,

and then plenty of Christians, yeah, yeah,

I mean, plenty of fish works if you're a Christian because you get

loaves, yeah, plenty of loaves.

There's plenty of loaves in the pantry, they would say.

My overheard comes courtesy of seeing the Superman film.

And before the film, they showed a trailer because it's Jaws' 50th anniversary.

Yeah, I saw that's coming to IMAX.

Yeah, and I think we'll go see it because I love that movie.

It's this week.

Did you?

Oh, really?

This week the show is coming out.

Oh, okay.

So it's in a month.

Is that when you studied in film school?

I did study in film school.

Jaws was the first movie I saw post-COVID post-COVID in theaters at the Rio.

Okay.

Yes.

It was great.

Yeah.

Then it wasn't your first time watching it.

It was my first time watching it.

Really?

Yes.

Wow.

Okay.

What do you think?

I love it.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

I want to look like Rich Dreyfus in that movie.

Oh, sure.

That's like a look.

It's a good look.

Yeah.

All three of those boys on the boat.

Yeah.

Oh, Quint.

Hubba, hubba.

But

they show the trailer, most famous line from the movie.

Got to get a big boat.

You're going to need a bigger boat?

And the guy behind me said, you know, they never did.

Did they not need a bigger boat?

They needed one.

They didn't get one.

Oh, that's true.

Yeah.

And it was,

if you've seen, there's a documentary about the making of jaws.

So funny.

It's the funniest movie.

Have you seen it?

I haven't seen the documentary.

I just know the stories from this movie said are legendary.

Yeah.

Just how awful it was for everyone involved.

Except a lot of the crew were able to get lots of girlfriends because they were working on a movie.

They wanted it to go on forever.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Camera guys and lighting guys.

Yeah, they cleaned up.

What do you mean?

Like, oh, you're working on a movie?

Yeah, you're working on the movie that you're right now.

Oh, you're something of a stick man.

I'm actually a best boy.

But yeah, it's a

great film.

And if you've never seen it before, check it out.

Yeah.

It's called Jaws.

It's got its 50th anniversary.

Although, I really should see it at the beginning of summer.

It's more of a...

Yeah.

It's not like a fall movie.

What's the best fall movie, Legend of the Fall?

I would even ask.

I think people will really like Harry Potter, the Harry Potter movies as fall movies.

Those are comfy fall movies.

Yeah.

I got it.

You know what?

This year, before the year is out, I'm going to watch the Harry Potter film.

Yeah.

You love it.

Yeah.

I haven't.

And

it's time.

Now, yeah, it's definitely the least problematic time to do it.

She's really doing her Hulk Hogan years

currently.

Now, we also have overheard sent in to us by people all over the map.

If you want to send one in, send it into spy at maximumfun.org.

And this first one comes from a kid at Outdoor Camp.

Okay.

Generalized Outdoor Camp.

Outdoor Camp.

This is, I was a parent chaperone taking an elementary school to outdoor camp for a few days for the end of school field trip.

As we were driving away on the bus, a kid who had obviously had a good time was yelling out the window, I love you, Camp, and then turns to his friends and go, what's the name of this camp again?

You didn't go to camp.

I know that.

What in the hell are you talking about?

When you were a kid?

I went to camp many times.

To sleepover?

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, you did.

What was the name of the camp?

Well, the one in the summer, I went to a bunch, like Camp Elphinstone and Keats Camp around the islands around here with my class.

Right.

And then in the summer, I went to a Bible camp in Bellingham, Washington,

called Camp Firwood.

Okay.

And it had a giant hill, and there were two naughty boys on the first week of camp.

It was like grade sixes.

And these boys.

who were like gangstas.

Day one of the camp, they both stuck their fingers down their throats so they would throw up and see whose barf would go further down the hill.

And like everyone else is like, you know, dressed in like camp gear.

These guys have like baggy pants.

And on the last day of camp, when we did a skit,

these are two of my favorite stories.

We wore, like, ours was, we did that sort of like Dorphon golf, like little

put your shoes on your knees and pretend you're tiny.

But we had backwards clothes on, and we did did a sort of a crisscross thing.

And the two gangster guys were like,

you know, our friend who died used to dress that way.

I hope you're not making fun of our friend.

And we were like, no, we've never met your friend.

What of it?

I am making fun of your dead friend.

Anyway, yes, I went to camp.

Did you go to camp?

I did.

I went to camp.

You probably wet your freaking bunk.

Yeah.

Oh, that was the first night.

I was like, oh, God, now I'm the guy who wet the bed.

And you wet it so far I went down the hill.

Come on, guys, compete with me.

Camp River Edge, which my parents didn't know was a camp, a YMCA camp for troubled youth.

So day one, somebody had smuggled in a knife, big knife, threw it at where I was sitting on a log, and it landed like not too far from my crowd.

Wow.

I think these two boys' parents thought they were sending their kids to a camp for troubled youth.

The puke down the hills.

One of the best stories ever, really.

And all the counselors just being like, what do we do?

They're like, just, you know, they won't stop.

They're just 20-year-old counselors.

I had a friend who they'd go to scout camp every year, and it wasn't a full scout camp until my friend Phil threw up.

And like just.

naturally.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then one year.

And competitively.

And one year he did very violently.

And they were like, this is the best year ever.

His appendages had burst.

Oh, no.

He's fine.

Phil's fine.

He didn't die.

Nope.

He's out there.

He works.

He's in Halifax.

Oh, hey, Phil.

We love you, Phil.

I hope that your appendix.

Grew back.

Yeah.

This next one comes from Jason in Washington.

Two kids, maybe 10, walking by.

Jason in Washington.

That's

the scariest

Friday the 30th.

Yeah, you have to kill all those grunge guys.

Oh,

I thought Washington.

Oh, he went and killed some politicians.

Yeah, yeah.

Jason in the White House?

Yeah.

He's legislating

a picture.

He's got a machete to Lincoln's throat, the biggest Lincoln Memorial.

So Jason and Washington, two kids, maybe 10, walking by.

Kid one.

You know what's useless?

Kid two.

What?

Kid one.

You.

He's setting you up, man.

You took a You had a chance to be like, you know what's useless?

You.

You're going to have jumped in.

You had your chance.

This last one comes from Angie Kay.

This is a sign on closed business called Yoga and Healing Sanctuary.

And its slogan is Yoga Art Podcast.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

The three big.

Yeah.

And it, like, maybe it had a recording studio in there.

You could do a yoga podcast or something like that.

Of course, this is very dated at this point as well, but Time Magazine came out with her 100 greatest podcasts of all time.

And we were 75th.

We were, we didn't quite make it, but the Travis Kelsey and his brother did.

Wait, you aren't Travis Kelsey and his brother?

I thought that's spoiled.

Sorry.

I don't think they were numbered.

It was just like, here's 100, name 100 podcasts.

I don't know if I can name 100 podcasts.

There was one that was like a branded podcast by J.P.

Morgan.

We can't beat that.

Yeah.

You got JP Morgan dollars by that.

There was the Amy Poehler one that's existed for two months.

This is of all time.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Serial, you know, serials and stuff.

Look, I know we're never going to be on these lists.

I'm not bitter about that.

Yeah, but come on, put us on the list.

Yeah.

Is that so hard?

Yeah.

Obviously, yes, you've got to do it.

Yeah.

We don't care if you do, but what even is this show?

Yeah.

it's it was pre-Conan O'Brien needs a friend, which I'm sure was also on that list.

Oh, I can't wait to read this list.

Oh, yeah, check it out.

Get so angry.

It's gonna rip off a shirt.

Now, in addition to overheards that are written, and we also accept your phone calls and voice memos, if you want to send a voice memo, you record it on your phone or another device, maybe one of those little

tape recorders where people are like, note to self.

Yeah, yeah.

I overheard a thing.

Superman looks a lot like Clark Kent, Lewis Lane would say.

And email that to spy at maximumfun.org or call 1-844-779-7631.

That's one ugh.

Spypod one, like these people have.

Armchair expert with Dax Shepherd.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

There's a hundred of them, Graham.

You're only in the A's.

All right, here we go.

Hi, Dave, Graham, and wonderful guest.

This is Marley from Independence, Missouri.

The other day, I saw a really nice-looking brand new flatbed truck with a license plate.

I'm surprised that any DMV would

let pass.

The letters were G-T-T-R-S-L-T.

Gutter slut?

Off I go.

That was guitar slut.

Guitar slut?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who's the biggest guitar slut?

I didn't even halen, I guess.

Oh, what's his name from ACDC?

Why?

Hang us Young?

Why is he a slut?

Oh, I thought we were just like,

school boy uniform?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's got to be Slash or, yeah, Gene Simmons.

Those are the bigs, right?

Yeah.

Well, Gene Simmons played bass.

Isn't that a guitar, Lou?

Thank you.

Okay.

do I have to educate you?

All right, what else is on the list there?

Binge mode, the bodega boys.

I'm still in the C's.

It's not on the list either, though.

No?

Yeah, so we got that in common, among other things.

What the hell?

All right, next phone call.

Hi, Dave, Graham and guest.

This is Jesse calling in an overheard from the streets of Toronto.

I was passing by two guys chatting, and I heard one say to the other, Yeah, I can't believe my mom is going to Iceland.

And then he paused and went, With Jan Arden.

Well, off I go.

What?

That's huge.

Yeah, you want to cook like sweet steaks?

That's amazing.

Go to Iceland with Jan.

Very specific.

I got to enter this.

This sounds like my dream come true.

I was like, You got a good mother.

You're just being insensitive.

These are songs.

Living under something.

There's a show called the.

No, that's not her.

You're going through the podcast list there?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's one called Gilmore Guys.

Are you familiar with Gilmore Guys?

That one's good.

Okay.

How about Hard Fork?

Don't know.

Okay.

All right.

Here we go.

Final phone call.

Hi, this is Daniel calling with an overheard,

typically in Brooklyn, but visiting Philadelphia now.

And heard a couple of women talking about nearly getting hit by a bike and one of them said yeah

you have to have eyes up your ass as my grandmother says

no friggin' way

pretty good yeah yep um

those those phrases i'm i'm just looking at where if we were on the list who would be who would we be alphabetical yep uh by the first not by the i apologize to all the people who called in the overheards this week graham got a uh

be in his bonnet he got a new toy He's got eyes up his ass.

Yeah.

One that is almost the antithesis of ours.

Still processing.

Almost like still podcasting.

Yeah.

Congratulations to all 100.

Thank you.

Joe Rogan.

Yeah, man, we're with you.

It feels good.

Yeah.

Rory, tell us all the things that you're doing upcoming.

You're going to be on tour?

Yes.

And where?

Tell us all about it.

So I'm going to be in Calgary the day after this drops, actually.

So that'll be the 26th?

Yes.

Okay, so for if you're in Calgary, this might be the day you might wake up that morning.

Yeah.

And be like, hey, yeah, or where are you playing?

I'm going to be at Vern's again.

I was going to ask is who it was.

I'm going to do the Grindstone Theater in Edmonton on August 27th.

I'm going to do the Art Bar in Saskatoon on August 29th.

Okay.

But Hometown Show.

Hometown Show.

I'm doing the Wolseley Opera House.

Oh, we have an Opera House.

If you happen to be in Woolseley, Saskatchewan,

September 4th.

It's like you were trying to trap Fraser.

Yeah, also come to our Sherry Winery.

Come out for our toss salad and scrambled eggs.

And then I'm going to be in Regina September 5th.

Toronto, September 12th.

Okay.

Where in Toronto?

I don't know know yet.

Okay, TBD.

TBD.

Yes, TBD.

And then New Zealand from there on.

Then on there.

From there on.

And I'm recording my album September 25th in Vancouver.

If you happen to be in Vancouver.

What's it going to be called?

Do you have a name?

Boogie Woogie.

Boogie Woogie.

And where will that be?

Chill X Studios in Mount Pleasant.

Okay.

Okay.

So you got things.

You got things on the front burner.

Lots of things going on.

Hell yeah.

Well, thank you so much for being our guest.

Thank you for having me.

This was so much fun.

And thank you, everybody out there, for listening.

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