Episode 914 - Ese Atawo

Hi, he's Dave Shumka.

And he's Graham Clark.

And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself.

Woo!

Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode number 914 of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

My name is Graham Clark.

With me, as always, is a man man, when you try to get your roof in order, it ain't no easy thing, and he knows it.

It's Mr.

Dave Shumka.

Yeah, some guys are supposed to come clean the moss off the roof today, and they never showed up.

Booked them two months ago.

Like,

well, like cable guys, you know, like if you're home between 9 and 6.

Between July 21st and September 11th.

Recording this on September 11th.

Oh, happy September 11th.

Happy September 11th to you.

We hung the trees.

The trees.

Yes.

That would be fun.

Anyway, how droll.

How droll.

Well, yes, we're very funny.

It's good to look back in laughter as opposed to anger.

Yeah.

In laughter.

Yes.

That voice you hear, that is our returning guest here to the podcast, improviser, part of an improviser group called Seasoned Professional Improv.

And you also teach.

Seasoned Professional Improv.

Seasoned Professional Improv.

It's S.A.

Toe.

Hello.

Hi.

That was a loud talk.

I'll ride that.

Don't worry.

I'll ride it.

Hello, everyone.

Hello, SA.

Hello, SA.

Thank you for joining us.

Now, before, well, you know what?

Let's get to know us.

Get to know us.

SA?

Right before the show started, it was...

I have a little clock up here.

It was 4.44 and 44 seconds.

Are you a type of person?

You know it, Dave.

Who has...

You know it.

What is your affiliation with numbers?

I just know.

What are your favorite numbers to see on the clock?

On the clock?

I just love the 4-4, 4-4s.

3-3-3-3?

Yes.

Yeah, I got

11-11.

Yeah.

11-11 is good.

1-2-3-4?

Yeah, oh, that one I love.

That's my favorite.

That one reminds me of like a mom, like a grandmother, not a mom.

Okay, you say that, and what does that mean?

We've gotten to know us, right?

Yeah, yeah, okay, good.

Sorry, um,

yeah, what does that mean?

I don't know what it means, it just gives me comfort, and I like I get I have these weird kind of connections in my brain, uh-huh, and so I'm not like judging you, I'm not being like, Wow, it's crazy, but what does it mean to you?

Like, what is it?

I just don't know what it means because I do have a friend who's a numerologist, okay.

And that that's when they know the way that they know, yes,

but they know all the numbers.

They know one to infinity.

Are you dealing with numerology?

Is that faith?

Do they know 25?

Oh, do they know 25?

Trust me, they know everything about 25.

Do you have a lucky number?

I don't.

That's

it.

I like numbers because I used to play soccer.

So number eight I wore, 10 I wore, two I wore, four I wore.

I just like that because I wore them.

Yeah, nice, even number.

I play hockey, and I, I, there's guys who are on the team that joined before me, and they all have their own jerseys with their own numbers.

I get whatever numbers left when I show up.

I'm like, okay, would I rather be 17 or 20?

Oh, I mean, that is actually a tough one.

Yeah, that is a tough one because 20 is like solid, but 17 is kind of exotic.

It's got a lot of points in it, right?

Right, but 17 also feels reckless.

Like, you can't pointy.

They're so pointy.

Yes.

So pointy.

See?

But 20 is.

You're feeling those numbers.

Yeah.

But there's like no really great all-time greats who wore 20.

But I'm not an all-time great either.

Not yet, but David, this is what you're working on first.

Well, if you had your choice, what number would you be?

Yeah.

I mean, my favorite player growing up was Trevor Linden, who were number 16, but I also don't want to be so like, oh, like everyone in this city for a couple years.

Being 17, that's close.

I know, but do I want to be closer or do I want to be the opposite?

When I played defense, I was number two.

Defense.

Back in the, when I was a kid, numbers meant something.

Okay.

And there were like, if you were a defenseman, you wore, if you were a goalie, you wore number one or a number in the 30s.

What about zero?

There's no zeros.

It's rare.

I don't think goalies.

I feel like a mascot would wear a zero.

Yeah, or a double zero.

Yeah.

And then a defenseman would wear like numbers between one and six or two and six.

And then the occasional like, you know, 77.

Oh, geez.

Yeah.

And then you really don't get anyone above like

27.

27 was usually a tough guy.

Okay.

And then who was the tough guy that wore 27 on the Canucks?

Oh, well, it was Harold Sneps for many years, although he's not, it wasn't like a goon.

And then Sergio Momesso award after that.

Dave knows numbers.

He knows all the numbers.

He knows what's in bed.

And then in the 90s, the European players came over and they started wearing 13.

No one ever wore 13 before.

But you had Valerie Kaminsky, you had Matt Sundine.

And then

there were like, now it doesn't matter.

Like, there's guys the best player on the class where it was 43.

No one would have ever worn 43 before.

Okay.

Somebody back in the day loved numbers.

They mapped it out.

They had a numerologist.

A neurologist?

Yes.

You haven't been to the numerologist.

They haven't done.

What do they do?

Reading?

I don't know.

What do they do?

I have a friend who's a numerologist.

Yeah, it's sort of like I have a friend in finance.

I don't know what he does either.

I've never sat down.

All I know, because they told me that they study the numbers.

And I'm like, great.

Like, cool.

Yeah.

But then they asked, my birthday is March 22nd, and

22nd is a powerful number, apparently.

Okay.

Obviously.

I'm just like, obviously.

Yeah.

I'm just like, I'll just accept the positive great.

Sure.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I just walk around just knowing that 22 is cool.

Is it numerology they're trying to predict?

No.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Let's google it.

Are they a kind of a

spacey person?

Are they no, they're not.

Okay.

This person is not.

They're not like a tarot card.

No.

Okay.

They've never read, they've never read me anything.

But they're not into that sort of like

psychic zodiac.

Yeah.

They could be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They could be into like, but they're into the stars and the moons as well.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So are they?

Hmm.

Sounds a little bit like this little leprechaun.

Have you met that person?

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yellow stars and blue moons.

Go on.

I believe there were red balloons.

I think they're, yes, yes.

And of course, green clovers.

And now they have a rainbow one.

Yes, they have the rainbow one.

And I remember that Lucky Charms made a big stink of it.

When they brought the rainbow one,

it was hard to dye dye those.

Yeah.

Do you ever partake in Lucky Charms?

I think they're scary.

They always looked scary to me.

Yeah.

And still do.

I never had any.

Just out of the curiosity,

how do they do it?

Oh, my God.

What have I done?

I don't know.

So that is

Lucky Charms.

The rainbows really are very colorful.

The rainbows.

They are colorful, yeah.

Pink, yellow, and blue.

What are the pink ones?

And then the Jesus fish.

Oh, yeah.

Hell yeah.

Weren't they controversial when it came out?

Did you refer to the non-umshallow pieces as the wood?

The wood or kibble?

That can, yeah, I see it.

But I didn't, growing up, I did not like

big, squishy marshmallows.

I liked cereal marshmallows.

Dude, you are hard.

Did you ever like because they feel like marshmallow either you loved it or you didn't love it, but I feel like you could all be united by putting them in a campfire and cooking up a marshmallow.

It always I don't love them.

Yeah, I don't love them.

It would be your go-to.

Like if you're like, okay, I'm going to have something sweet.

Oh, gummy bears.

Yeah.

Okay.

Interesting.

Love the gummies.

I'm a snackologist, and that's I can read from.

Oh, yes, you like the

oh, it means you're going to have a wonderful year.

Amen, amen.

For the love of Godman bears.

God praise you.

Do you?

I don't like.

You say we could all unite over the campfire.

That's horrible.

Oh, okay.

Like

you're all the way down the line.

But like, they're burnt.

Like, you, you try to toast them nicely and not burn them.

Oh, not me.

I burnt them.

Okay.

You make them burnt.

But then what do you're getting them all over your fingers?

That's the joy of it.

The outside is all crusty and it comes apart from the inside.

Exactly.

And there's like, if you try to make us more.

God forbid.

You need help.

It's not a single, you can't make us more by yourself.

Yeah, that's right, because somebody's got to hold it while you're working.

But also the

piping hot

marshmallow is somehow not hot enough to melt the chocolate.

Yeah, I never melt the chocolate.

That one kills me.

That one I don't get.

Did you ever camp growing up?

No, I never did, but it was the summer of COVID.

Oh, I remember it well.

I know.

Sean Devlin introduced me to camping, and it changed my life.

Really?

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Tell me.

Tell me everything.

I mean,

what's to tell you now?

How did Sean Devlin introduce you to it?

It was not letting you in the house.

It was the summer of COVID.

Yeah.

And people were just like, what the fudge.

And he's like, hey, do you want to go camping?

And I'm like, I've never been.

Wow.

And then he said, you need all these things.

I'm like, oh, my God.

I'm going to be sleeping outside.

Yeah.

Do you own any of the things?

I had to get all those things.

Yeah.

Sleeping bags.

Sleeping bags.

Some sort of inflatable something.

Pillows.

A tent.

A tent.

You had to get your own tent.

Yes.

Wow.

Okay.

I did all that and we went to, where'd you go to?

That place that everybody goes to.

Golden Ears or something like that.

Oh, yeah, sure.

Okay, yeah.

If you say so.

Sure.

Like, I've heard of it.

I don't know.

And it was, it was amazing.

Yeah.

I was just like, what is this?

Really?

Did you have to do the thing where you like

hang up your food in a tree so a bear doesn't come?

We were advised to, but we, I think we all had coolers with locks and stuff like that.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

The barrel just.

But some people did.

I saw that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I saw that.

It was real.

I saw that.

I've seen it.

I saw that campaign.

Are you like, is that kind of a thing you're going to do?

I didn't want to.

Okay.

This summer I did not camp, which broke my heart.

It's too bad.

No.

All the national parks were free this year.

What the fuck?

Yeah.

Have they been the last few years or no?

I don't know.

I just know it was free this this year because I drove through Banff.

Oh, no problem.

Gratis.

Was that a way to get people to not visit the States?

Yep.

Okay.

Amazing.

Keep on doing that, please.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Unless you're listening from America, then you're going to be doing that.

We love you.

We love you, guys.

We do.

We're very worried about you.

Be safe.

Truly.

Be safe.

Yeah.

I haven't camped since I want to say high school.

Really?

Yeah.

I know.

It's such a camping culture out here, and I'm not a part of it.

And do you like camping, though?

Yeah, I really, I thought it was really fun.

At least when I was doing it, you just kind of got drunk over the course of the day and then put something over fire.

Yeah, and that was so fun.

And everything tasted so good.

And I thought I would hate that.

Yeah.

I thought I would hate camping.

I just did it because I'm like, I'll say, don't be a little.

When you say everything tasted so good, all the campfire stuff?

Oh, yeah, every, yeah, even though.

because some like my experience with camping was some like you know weenies on the camp yeah but also like boiling water and pouring it into a little cup of noodles and that doesn't taste so good

we never had that though because also uh the amazing daniel code was there and he can cook anything oh really and so he took care of that so it's just like okay yeah if you have somebody who can cook then sure

then yeah but yen can cook he could is he still with us i don't know.

Do you recall a cooking show from the 90s, maybe?

Called Yan Ken Cook.

No, yes.

Do you remember that?

Yes.

Yeah.

Before the white chef.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

No, he had aprons with sayings on it.

Was that Yan Ken Cook?

Oh, he'd be like walking a roller.

This is a different guy.

What am I thinking of?

Oh, I don't know.

That's Yan Ken Cook.

I'm thinking of a Canadian.

I'm a Canadian guy.

This is an American.

Yeah.

I don't know that guy.

This is a PBS show.

I'm thinking of a Canadian.

He was the guy that did the aprons, the Canadian guy, I guess, then.

And he was called.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't ask what my search terms were.

Oh, yeah, it's walk with Yan.

I was just going to say walk with Yan.

Yes.

There's a different yan.

And his aprons say things like walk on the wild side

and walk the fudge like you would

walk the heck.

Man, it was a different time.

Walk on by.

Do they?

They don't do that anymore, do they?

The teaching you how to cook a meal

into the camera kind of shows you the food network must have.

Do they?

No, it's very

competitions.

Yeah,

this feels like something they would do if they had a five-minute cooking segment on live with Kelly and

Michael.

Yeah.

Michael?

No.

Who's she married to?

Robert.

Yeah, Mark.

Mark.

Kelly and Mark.

They get to do everything together.

I've gone through so many.

Yeah.

She's kind of a black widow of

morning hosts.

Now,

you're very famous in my house.

You may not know this because

my daughters love

the

what are they called?

Oh my gosh.

The teen girl who wrote the letters to all the boys.

To all the boys.

I was going to say, Ann Frank.

Incorrect.

Incorrect, Graham.

You're in the third one of the.

You're in the third of the.

To all the boys I love before.

When they go visit colleges in New York,

you are the chaperone.

And that was shot here, I'm guessing.

Yes, it was.

I couldn't go to New York.

But it was a lot of fun.

It was super fun.

It was weird to see young fandom.

It was intense.

It was like were there little girls come up to you and they never?

Not to me.

No.

But were there people like near the set being like...

All the time.

All the time.

Like, they would ambush, like, all the time.

They had security guards with it.

I couldn't say anything.

Really?

I was picked up.

It was like crazy.

Wow.

Yeah.

Was it fun?

It was fun because everyone was so nice and lovely and

just it was fun seeing the crazy to be like yeah wow yeah I don't think I've been around that kind of yes yeah and it was also fun because they weren't looking like they weren't looking for me, so I was like, safe in the chaos.

You could be one of them, yeah, but not one of them.

Yeah, it's like,

and what is the show?

It's a movie, it's a movie, it's a movie.

There's three movies based on three books by

the same person who wrote The Summer I Turned Pretty,

Michael Grayton, yes.

And they're about this girl,

Laura Jean,

who wrote these letters to a bunch of her crushes, but she never mailed them.

And then her younger sister mailed them.

What a bitch.

And then the fallout from all those letters.

I don't know if either of you have ever had like the suggestion of.

If you're having a

sad period or angry period to write a letter to whomever or whatever.

And not mail it.

But like, I'd be so terrified of putting that down because it's like countdown to somebody discovering it.

Exactly.

Just burn it.

Like, write it in the writer and then burn it.

That's not a bad idea.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what camping's for.

It certainly wasn't the last weekend at high school because everybody burned their books.

Yes.

Yeah.

You went to a Fahrenheit 451 high.

That's true.

That's the temperature at which books burn.

Yeah.

The

how

long have you been in Vancouver acting?

When did you start acting?

Oh, goodness.

I talked about that.

I love it.

Do you?

Yes.

Here, let me ask you this, because I heard somebody say this an actor said, when you're auditioning, you're not auditioning for the part, you're auditioning for another audition.

Is that true?

Yes, no, maybe so.

Okay.

I just do what I'm told.

No, I'm joking.

It's a hustle.

It's a grind.

It's long.

Yeah.

And it's fun.

I love it.

But what was the question?

Just how long have you been at it?

You don't need to give me exact time, but it's it's been I think like over 13 years, okay, yeah, like a lot, a lot, yeah, yes.

Um, you what was your first thing you booked?

Oh, I don't even, oh, the first thing actually I booked was in Ontario, and I love oh, did we know this?

No, yeah, we've talked about your Ontario, but we talked about your old job where you used to pretend to

kind of bust people selling cigarettes to minors, yeah.

Uh, but my first gig, I believe, was when I first paid acting gig was when I did one of those crime reenactment shows.

Oh.

And I played

one of the suspects.

I believe that I did it.

I believe

I

read, like, they gave us access to the files.

I'm like, I definitely killed this bitch.

Like, I did it.

Oh, wow.

But I had to, it was such a great, fun experience because I'm like, I did this.

And I couldn't.

You don't think you actually did it, though, right?

My character?

No, me, no, god, no, I don't know why I would do it.

Okay, so it was like a sort of a mystery thing where a crime, but they don't know if you really did it.

We so, yeah, so the

trial has been done.

I've been set free, you know, I was cleared from the crime.

Right, okay, and we're going back.

Yeah, they didn't even, yeah, I don't think they charged me, but I was a major suspect to be like, I definitely did this, right?

But regardless, I was cleared of the crime,

and I

did it, and I'm walking free.

Yeah, I feel like I know this show you're talking about because I feel like there was a Canadian

called like something 911 or something like that.

It's the thing that you see the last two minutes of when another show is about to start and you're like,

and then you just like the host comes on and says, she was acquitted, but we all know she did it.

That was so good.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That was your first gig.

Yeah.

Any speaking in that or just all yeah, because you have to like improvise and act those scenes where we're breaking up.

They had neighbors would argue that they would be fighting in their apartment.

And they'll be like,

I hate you.

I'm breaking up with you.

I'm breaking up with you.

Pack your bags.

And then

you're like, I might kill you, though.

Oh, what's his name is still at it, the guy who hosted

dateline.

What's his name?

He's like quite old at this point.

Keith Morrison.

Keith Morrison.

He's still at it.

He's still hosting the show.

And like, I mean, he doesn't do a lot.

He just kind of comes in and then does a couple of softball interviews.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that format of show.

Yeah, me too.

If I'm in a hotel room and daylight's on, that's where I'm parking.

I love it.

Yeah.

I love it.

It's like, yeah.

What's your go-to when you're in a hotel?

That.

Really?

That and all those cheap, not cheap.

Why did I say cheap?

Expensive.

Expensive, luxurious.

Like movie of the weeks.

Yeah, okay.

Those are also good to watch.

Yeah.

Have you been in one?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

What was it called?

The last one that I remember is, I think, is Amish.

Paradise?

Something Amish, but it was actually really fun.

Yeah, you're supposed to get that on your wedding day.

else.

Something Amish.

I watched recently, for some reason I've been trying to like.

In a hotel?

No.

In my home.

This is home viewing.

I've been trying to, like,

I just kind of pick a theme of, like, I was telling you a couple of weeks ago, I just watched three Western, modern Western movies.

Okay.

And then recently I've been trying to, like,

watch Harrison Ford movies that aren't Indiana Jones or Star Wars.

Did you watch Air Force One?

I've seen Air Force Force One before, but I watched

Working Girl.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then speaking of

Amish, I watched Witness.

Witness.

Ooh, this was good.

I remember that one.

They made us study that in film school.

In Amish school.

Because it was they said like the perfect setup and way that the perfect movie should follow.

Should follow and like this is where the rising action is and everything like that.

So yeah, Sidney

Pollock.

Yeah, Sidney Pollock.

Lumette.

No,

Lumette.

Yes.

He's the guy who wrote and directed it.

Directed it, at least.

Anyways, so did you like it?

I think I don't.

I didn't love it.

Okay.

I was like, because it is kind of just like a, because I guess it is, as you, as they were teaching it to you, like, this is the perfect movie formula.

You're like, oh, well, it's the formula.

Yeah, yeah.

It does seem sort of formulaic.

Yeah.

And in that sort of 80s, like cop

genre.

Was he?

I can't remember at the beginning.

He was one of those cops that had rotten milk in his fridge and, you know,

old Chinese food.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I don't think we see his fridge, but his sister is like Patty Lupone, maybe.

Oh, nice.

Nigga hole up there.

We mostly see the Amish people being like, oh, I'm so mad we have to stay in regular Philadelphia.

They have a couple days in the city and they hate it.

Yeah.

Well, because they're not on Rump Trager.

That's, you know.

And so that's two.

What was the third?

Oh, I haven't done a third.

But I think I might go with

Regarding Henry.

Regarding Henry?

Do you know Regarding Henry?

No.

What's a Harrison Ford 80s one that I should do?

Didn't he do one with Michelle Pfeiffer that was some sort of murder thriller?

Or like a sexy thriller or something?

What else is

what lies beneath?

That's what Robert Zemekis made in the year when Tom Cruise was, or Tom Hanks was losing weight on Castaway.

Oh, he just squeezed in a movie in between?

Yeah.

Love that.

I love that.

Oh, Presumed Innocent.

I might watch Presumed Innocent.

That sounds pretty good.

1990, though.

It's close enough.

But Working Girl was

about a secretary who's trying to work her way up.

Yep.

That was kind of a fun genre in its own right was climbing the corporate corporate ladder, secret to my success, nine to five,

Wall Street, Wall Street, yeah.

It was like, I just assume that's what adults did for a living once, and that's not what they do.

No, none of that.

I don't know anybody who works on Wall Street.

No, um,

do you?

I did.

I guess we don't talk anymore because it's life, but yeah, I guess.

Sure, yeah, I know of a person.

There, um, yeah, I do feel like there's a lot of movies in that genre that I never saw, but I saw the cover of the

tape at the video store.

And it was scandalous.

Well, no, I'm thinking of like

9 to 5

is 9 to 5 Dolly Parton and

Lily Tomlin.

Lily Tomlin.

Then I get Lily Tomlin and Bet Midler from Big Business.

I get that mixed up.

Oh, sure.

They're like twins?

Two sets of twins?

Oh, my God.

Sorry, listeners.

What's the movie with?

Oh, what's his name?

And he dresses like a woman.

Oh, Tootsie.

Yeah.

Tootsie.

Yeah, yeah.

I have a lot of people.

That's more about forming the soap opera ladder.

And is Bill Murray in that?

Who's in it?

Dustin Hoffman?

Dustin Hoffman.

No, but who's his pal?

Oh, who's his pal?

Dustin Hoffman is Tootsie.

He's Tootsie.

And then Tootsie's friend.

Speaking of movies that they show you, that's like considered

the greatest comedies of all time.

And I don't know if it holds up.

Tootsie.

Great cover.

Different Sydney, Sidney Pollock, and then Bill Murray.

You're right.

And Jessica Lang and Terry Garr and Gina Davis.

What a cast.

What a cast.

Do you like watching older movies, newer movies?

What's your schedule?

Or no movies at all?

Kind of like that.

I wasn't raised to enjoy life.

I'm joking.

I was.

I was.

I'm more of a dateline fan.

Yeah.

Movies weren't really a thing that we did.

Okay.

So I pretty much watched what like was popular and what everybody.

Have you seen that movie?

Yeah.

But like, yeah.

What did you guys do instead of watching movies?

Sports.

Oh, okay, sure.

Tons of sports.

Were you an athlete?

Yeah.

What'd you do?

What number?

What was your, what was it?

Well, yeah, what number?

Well, soccer.

You said a bunch.

Four.

Like, what was your, what spoke to you?

I think because I was born in the year 84, so I liked anything with four and then eight.

Yeah.

yeah, makes sense.

Yeah.

Four times two is eight.

It's very good.

It's very, it's got a good flow to it.

So you should have been here when it was 444 or 440.

I was.

I was.

And I am like checking the time.

Yeah, yeah.

I just looked at it.

Is 555 and 55 things going to be important to you?

Well, apparently they're angel numbers, I believe.

I've heard that term as well.

Exee.

But then it's like, just, isn't that cool?

Yeah.

I love it.

Yeah.

So, uh soccer soccer and then track track okay what do you what do you think we've learned all this so just well i mean we i don't remember either yeah

but the listeners are gonna be like these guys

um soccer and then track 100 200 what was your um high jump

whoa

that one's scary

going on with the that pole no high that high jump is no no ball

holder i can never

jump.

Is a flashbury flop?

Jumping over a bar.

Okay, okay.

Yeah.

Did you, so did you play soccer?

Yes.

Do you still?

No, I tore my Achilles a few years ago, so I haven't really

gone.

I mean, I haven't played sports even before I tore my Achilles, but what is your, like, because I played soccer as a kid, and then I stopped.

And then I tried to play a few years later, and they changed the shoes.

Oh, no more cleats?

Well, no, cleats were...

Well, no more of the...

Did you have the kinds you had had to screw in?

Yeah.

And then they got rid of those.

Okay.

Is it just now pure spikes?

Well,

they're like built into the shoes.

But like,

I remember we used to have to line up.

Yeah.

And at the start of every game, because you had your cleats would get worn out, and then there was a screw inside them.

And if there was metal showing, the referee would examine everyone's cleats.

We weren't like that.

Okay.

Oh, me neither.

We weren't expected like that.

I think think I was just, I never moved beyond just kid soccer.

I didn't go to like teen or mid-teen or any of that kind of stuff.

I just hated it

from the jump, I hated it.

But it was like Saturday morning, you're getting up and you're going to play soccer.

And I just like, no, but like TV.

Don't you know about TV?

Yeah, what the hell?

Was your whole family athletic?

Yes.

That's my family is also very active.

Yeah, all of them.

Minus one.

Like,

what were the other family members?

Yeah, my sister, my oldest sister, was really great at shot putting, and she is awesome.

But she just was like, I don't want any of this, I'm done.

Yeah,

retiring a champ.

She retired a champ.

Did Canada win the shot put at the Olympics last year?

Yeah, or was it the hammer throw, maybe?

I think it's the hammer throw, this dude with a cool mustache.

But I think they won men's and women's.

Hey, all right, look it up.

Well, whatever the

sorry, sorry, Field, track is really kind of overshadowing you

but she was like I'm done my older brother was a sprinter.

He was really really fast

like that in a sprinter.

Yes, and he

was very very fast

and then my I was also a sprinter and a jumper.

Okay.

Sprinting is so hard.

It is, but it's not when it's over here.

It's overstimulated.

It is overstand, but once you know your rhythm you're done like you just feel it's just

yeah what like i feel like i used to spray when i was a galloping person pretty much is in elementary school i was the fastest kid in my elementary school yeah

but i um oh my god long distance running is so much harder because it's that's the thing long distance is so much harder it's boring oh and it hurts yeah yeah and it's yeah and it's all mental you just have to Yeah, and like you're nowhere near water or anything.

Unless you're carrying carrying a bottle with you.

So like where do you go?

You're nowhere near water.

Oh, I know what you mean.

Oh, you mean like not near a lake.

Yeah.

Like, or like, I was picturing you like having some kind of water madness.

Like rabies or whatever.

Yeah, I remember going to a track meet when I was in high school or junior high.

And like our guy that was the fastest, like we were like, watch this guy, he's going to dominate.

And this kid from another school, he was so fast.

He was like lightning.

It was unbelievable how fast he was.

I remember in grade six, we did a track meet with the city as well.

And I was like, I was a sprinter and I went and I.

You're the fastest kid in the school.

You're the fastest kid in the school in my grade.

And then

I got third in my heat.

Oh.

And so I didn't advance.

How did you feel?

Because it was a sprint and I did one,

I was like, well, also, like, I was just wearing like sneakers.

Other kids were in like spikes.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

And I had no idea that was.

But I was like, that's it.

I ran for 15 seconds and we're done.

Yeah, that's the whole thing.

Go home.

And then I remember I wrote, like, she's losing it.

I wrote, we had to write like a

journal in our class.

Every day you write a thing and the teacher writes a little comment on it.

And I was like, yeah,

yesterday I went to the track meet.

I came in third in my heat and blah, blah, blah.

And my teacher wrote, hey, congratulations on third place.

And I was so like, you fucking idiot.

You think that's good?

Yeah.

Oh, she's just trying to be encouraging to the little sprinter.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

Um,

Dave, what's going on with you, man?

Speedwise, oh, speedwise.

Well,

um, so I've got these crazy dogs, yes, two, two, crazy dogs, and they're just like the worst.

They're they're

beautiful, they're beautiful and wonderful.

I love them, but they are a nightmare to walk, especially like

the like the first block of the walk, they are uh, they're just like very, they're reactive, okay.

And I'm not a good uh owner.

I can't train it out of them.

And so, but one day this summer,

it was after dinner and I was about to take them for a walk.

It was still a little hot out.

And I was like, you know what?

It's okay.

The dogs will be okay.

I'm a little hot,

but it's time to take them for a walk.

It was like seven o'clock.

I look out the window.

There's a family of people outside.

Oh, no, I didn't look out the window.

I opened the door with the dogs and there's a family of people outside, and the dogs just started going crazy.

I was like, Oh, oh, I'm going back inside.

Yeah, close the door, and oh, I also had like forgotten poop bags, I needed to get poop bags or my headphones or something.

I came back in the house, you ought to mess this up, you know?

Yeah, yeah,

I came back in the house, and then I went, I was like, Okay, well, let's see.

And the family that was outside was so slow-moving,

and they finally got past the yard, and they, so I was like, okay, the dogs are insane already.

Yeah.

And, but I'll just, I'll go out now.

I'll go out slowly.

And I walked out and who walked right in front of the house?

Essaya Tawa.

Hello, neighbor.

And

my dogs immediately went insane.

But it looked cool.

It really did.

It really did.

I was telling Graham earlier that it looked like you were like a lord or something.

Two dogs, one per hand, and they were wilding out, but you were just like, this dog.

Made me feel like, and I immediately was like, I'm that dog right now.

I felt like I was super rude.

And then I had to like walk them up the street.

And I was like, oh, God, it hates me.

No!

I was like, it looks cool.

But then I had to like cross the street because that slow-moving family was still there.

So I was like, I'm going to walk on the other side.

I am within like half a block.

I'm pouring sweat down.

And then we get to the end of the block.

My dogs are insane.

And as soon as we turn off the block, the dogs are fine.

They just kind of want to protect the block.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

That is adorable.

Like, just picturing the slow family.

Like, I was behind a slow family going down a set of stairs.

I was like, man, you guys should wait until everybody's down the stairs.

You're going to be this slow about it.

Yeah, man.

It was like three generations.

Oh, sure.

They're bonding.

You know?

Yeah, well, take your time.

They're bonding.

And then, so the other thing that I thought I would talk about was

we mentioned camping

this summer.

Are you the Shimka's camp?

Okay, this is a classic story.

Get your popcorn.

Abby, my wife, early in our relationship was

saying, had an idea of like, oh, maybe Dave and I can go camping this year.

We don't have any camping stuff, but we'll get some gear and go camping.

And she said it to my mother, and my mother was like, Oh, Abby, Shumkas don't camp.

Oh, I hope your mother was drinking tea when we said it.

Well, she does camp is the thing.

I think she's saying she, maybe she's not a true Shumka.

She's not.

Oh, sure, yeah.

But

this summer,

my in-laws, Abby's parents on Gabriola Island where they live, they,

well, first of all, they always put up a flag for whoever's visiting.

So we have Swedish family who come visit, they put up the Swedish flag.

They put up, they like try to figure out, like, oh, they already have the BC flag, which is where I'm from.

So they're like, is there a city of Vancouver flag?

No.

There is.

Yeah, there is, yeah.

But what they did is they just got a printout of our two dogs and they

went to a flag-making.

Really?

that is amazing and it was so fun whipping in the wind

I would love to go and give them just the description of me and just go wild

yeah exactly make my own flag yes that is so adorable it was uh this right there oh my god

isn't it good I want to go over I please invite me what's your favorite flag I don't have one okay but you're a number person not a flag person

I mean I'll rot my country's flag.

I enjoy all the way, but I'm not like

flag.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like by design, you mean?

Yeah, I don't have one.

I think,

do you remember, or maybe they weren't everywhere, but as I was younger, there was a shirt called Mondetta.

Yeah.

And they had a flag.

It said Mondetta, and then there was a picture of like whatever.

It was like a some kind of like, it felt like a very international brand.

Yeah.

Like very.

And like all the kids would get one from whatever their parents or grandparents were.

All the parents.

Yeah.

Like that?

Yeah, like that.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it was like they were like so popular at the time.

Yeah, those are the ones I remember.

The tiny flesh.

A spirit of unification.

Yeah,

I wonder where that was.

I didn't have, I had an Irish one and the orange and white and green.

For me, it's got to be Japan.

Big red circle.

Classic.

Well done.

Red.

Do you like red?

Is that your pass?

I don't really, no, not really.

Just a good design, though, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I think Canada's flag kind of rocks.

Yeah, that's a good design.

I like the Brazilian flag.

Brazilian flags.

It feels welcoming.

Maybe the green is just like...

I like Brazilian butt lips.

You do?

Yeah.

I've been kind of in the market for one.

Ooh.

I'll let you know.

I'll let you know if I hear anything on the street.

I'll let you know how mine goes now.

So we went there this summer, and then one thing that they did was

they bought a big tent so that the girls could camp out in the backyard.

That's fine.

And this tent was enormous.

It had rooms.

How many houses?

Did it have rooms?

It had like dividers.

It had like not dividers, although I think it maybe had a

mesh divider you could put in the middle.

Wow.

But they, uh, it had

like

it was, you could stand up and walk around in it.

Wow.

It was, it had, it could sleep like six maybe.

Wow.

Maybe eight?

Wow.

But what we did was the girls spent

two nights out there

and we got, they had an old TV that was like a TV VCR and we like put an extension cord out there.

Oh, fun.

And watched Jurassic Park

in the dark.

Oh, that's pretty cool.

Was it scary?

A little bit?

It was scary, although we fell asleep before it got scary.

The first hour of it is not scary.

Yeah.

That goat really gets it in the very first scene.

Well, yeah, and a guy gets it in the first scene.

Yeah.

Have you seen Jurassic Park?

A long time ago.

It's

this island.

Go on.

Full of

dinosaurs.

What'd you say?

Yeah.

They used

DNA technology.

What?

To make dinosaurs, modern dinosaurs.

Were you a big dinosaur fan growing up?

No, no.

I don't remember myself as a baby.

Like, I don't remember that

era.

Yeah.

So, but I do know that I am Nigerian and we don't play.

Right.

Okay.

So, I know we wouldn't have had like

action figures.

Yeah.

It wasn't until we moved to Canada where I was like, I think I want a Barbie.

Yeah.

Because everybody was like,

what did you do when you were

in Nigeria?

Just sports?

I guess you were always doing sports?

Either school, church, or sports or family.

You know, it's just school.

No time to play.

We play.

School, church, outside play.

Okay.

Outside play.

School, church, chores, outside play.

But like, no action figures.

No, yeah, because electricity.

What's your favorite chore?

That's a great question.

That is actually a great question.

My favorite chore is my brothers and I would love to like take things when we moved to Canada.

We would just, because of so many kids in life, we would do like a family clean.

So we have to dump things out.

Oh, okay.

So it was going into dumpsters like and dumping your trash late at night.

Oh,

it was so much fun.

We were just like, because you don't, cause most places are locked and you can't do it.

Right.

So just like find places that could open up.

I have a neighbor who, yeah, loved, it was so much fun.

You still do it?

No.

Oh, no.

I have a neighbor who, like,

at this, in the city, you.

have to have a garbage can, but the smaller the garbage, you pay by size.

Yeah.

And so he has the smallest garbage can available.

But he's constantly,

I see him carrying like his home trash out to like

Camby Street where there's public garbage cans.

Not allowed to get a business.

Not my next door neighbor.

Not my next door neighbor.

Don't come hunting for women.

I'm going to,

I will never reveal this man's identity.

Yeah, there's a guy definitely for years has been using our recycle bins to, and he does eat like separating paper and containers and everything, but like, you don't live here you've never lived here but i had such an interesting there was one there was one time that we had to dump and usually most this is in ontario but most um

like goodwill shops have their garbage containers or open oh yeah right oh yeah this is generally open uh so it was a good place to dump so we were going to our usual spot to not to donate the trash but to dump

yeah but then i saw a bully in my high school late at night with their family at looking through.

And also sometimes clothes are just tossed off.

So like, we'll just toss it out.

They were looking through clothes for themselves, the family.

And that person in high school was like, not a bully to me, but they were awful.

Really?

And just to see, like, it was like, I'm not, it was sad.

It was just weird.

This is like the TV episode.

It was a TV episode.

I felt like I've like, I've cracked you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then also, I'm like, I'm sorry that you're going through this.

But then also like, oh, I hated being a good person, but like, I couldn't be like, oh, I'm going to expose you, which I never did.

That's that's biggie.

Just like, oh, I hate you, though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And especially running into a bully outside of school hours.

Oh, yep.

Yeah.

Or like, especially, like, not even the like

donated clothes that they're looking for, but the

like, huh, you're such a tough guy at school, but now you're with your mom.

Yeah.

That was what grossed me out.

Yeah.

You have a mom.

I know.

Ew.

That's nasty.

Do you have a favorite chore?

Oh, boy.

I like,

you know, clearing a table.

Oh, yeah.

Like,

I'm going to put it in with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, putting it all in.

Are you done with that?

Oh, yeah.

Are you done with her?

Yeah.

And then, like, wiping it down.

Or wiping it down before dinner, too.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

My kids, it's like

the second week of school this week.

And one of my kids was very excited because tomorrow we got our jobs.

I hope I'm in charge of cubbies.

Oh, my goodness.

She was not.

Oh, what'd she end up with?

Oh, no.

Supplies.

Important.

She's an organized kid, and she's like, she just wanted something where she could be organized.

You're going to love supplies.

Handing out supplies.

That's beautiful.

Good supplies.

What about you, Chore, man?

Love doing the dishes.

Really?

Yeah.

I love this day.

Oh, bless you.

To this day.

I like I listen to podcaster music and just meditation time.

I hate dishes.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I feel like when they're all in the drying rack, I'm like, oh, it feels good.

You know?

It feels good to be done.

Yeah.

I just hate, oh, each plate, each fork.

You don't have a dishwasher?

I don't.

Me neither.

Yeah.

That's why I hate it.

Yeah.

I saw a

fun,

what do you call it, like a dish rag.

And it was a picture of a lady and a bottle of wine.

It says, the dishwasher's loaded.

I get it.

Pretty good.

I'm not getting it for anyone.

So, yeah, just some

really roughed it out in the

tent.

So, you slept out there too?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The kids, uh, one night Abby slept out there with them, one night I slept out there with them.

I think, and we left it open so the dogs could come and go.

Yeah, I forget if the dogs were there.

The one thing about camping is you wake up and like you're back.

Well, you're back and you're just like wet.

Yes, you know, like you just, yeah, because of the sweat, you know, because of the sweat, so you're like stunning yourself.

Yeah, and there's like dew.

Yeah, yeah.

I always found like even in the summer i wake up and it's freezing yeah

yeah it's a mixture of both totally you're like what the fuck

you're just not sure no did you because i've never had this but you see them at like outdoor shops like a uh sleeping bag with like a hood as well oh no no me neither old class i would hate that i'm just like wear your toque just scarf scarf fair enough i just finished reading uh i was telling you um

into

Thin Air.

Into Thin Air, yeah.

And it's a book about a big,

in 1996, this big Everest climb where there was a storm where a bunch of people died and

they're describing their like

accommodations and like their camping stuff.

And it's

enough to make me never want to climb Everest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, so a lot of people kind of, well, died.

And some people lost their

limbs to frostbite or fingers anyway.

And there was a and some people were left for dead and then came out walking.

Like, like

they had no pulse.

And then 12 hours later, they just woke up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then the movie.

Have you seen the movie?

No.

The

like dramatized one?

Yeah.

Okay.

There's the

people that fall off, it's so unceremonious.

Like, you don't hear them yelling or anything.

They just fall off.

Like, is how a person would just like fall off and disappear.

Oh, yeah.

And

crivy.

You're like, oh, my God.

They're like completely blind in the

step off.

And then...

Oh, yeah.

And there's just like some parts of it where they're like, well, we were in this one base camp, like below the base camp, where there's just open sewage out in the middle of

and like, goddamn it.

And the food is all contaminated.

And you wake up.

One guy wakes up in the middle of the night and just has diarrhea out in front of everyone.

Of course.

Oh my God.

And like another guy is so sick, but he and they're like, you stay here.

And he's like, I like, don't climb any further.

And he's like, I got to climb because I do not want to stay here.

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

Of course.

Yeah.

And then, like, you've seen photos of the real Everest.

It's just like a long lineup of people going.

Like, it just kind of is a slow pace.

Yeah.

I don't know how you go when you can lie and Photoshop now.

In this area, you go, yeah, I did Everest.

Here's some photos of me on Evers.

Also, they're like, um,

they get stupid from lack of oxygen.

Yeah, yeah.

And they're like, when they get lost in the snow in the storm, like, and they can't think, they're like zombies out there bumping into each other.

Like, I thought I saw you at the top of the mountain, but you were down there

the whole time.

Yeah, I was having diarrhea.

Don't you remember?

I was the guy that had the diarrhea.

Yeah.

I told you to pass me the drone.

That was me.

Wow.

I do wonder, like, their brains must be studied.

It's the drive.

It's like, I mean, kudos to the accomplishment.

It's the feat.

Yeah, it's a feat.

Yeah.

But why?

Yeah.

You know, and like multiple times.

Yeah.

Yes.

It is like, there are certain things that are just like acceptable mental illnesses.

Yeah.

If it's productive, then yeah.

Yeah.

The uh

if you take yourself out, it's okay.

That's right.

You're not harming anybody else so you fall off a cliff.

I love doing what you love.

Yeah, like I watched a part of.

I'm saying that.

I think all mental illnesses are acceptable.

Acceptable was the wrong word, but just like

promotional.

Gotcha.

Yeah, like did either of you guys see Free Solo?

No.

Like, just like a guy who climbs rock faces with like no.

Why did you, like.

I was gonna say no string, but you know what I mean, yeah, yeah.

Does he die?

Uh, I didn't watch it at the end, it got very queasy.

I was like, I don't, I don't think I can do this.

I don't, it's fascinating, yeah, it's

your body, your choice, yeah, but yeah, that is a thing here of like we have a camping culture here.

Yes, we also have a I knew people who would like just climb all weekend, yeah, yeah, not me, man.

Nope, me neither.

Keep that chalk away from my hands,

like my wet hands.

I'm trying to teach you a lesson, Graham.

Anyway, I love the outdoors.

I'm climbing Everest.

What's going on with you?

I, last night, along with past guest Emmett Hall, went to the music venue, The Rick Shaw,

to catch a rock and roll show.

Cool.

And the rock and roll show was a band

called Mac Sabbath.

that do Black Sabbath songs, but about hamburgers.

And they're dressed like the lead singer is Ronald McDonald.

Are you serious?

The bassist is Grimmus.

The lead guitar is this guy,

Slayer McCheese is his name.

So yeah, he's like a burger with horns.

Wow.

And is it like

music?

No, it's like it's all like...

Do you know any Black Sabbath like I Am Iron Man?

You know that one.

No, Iron Man.

You don't know I Am Iron Man.

Okay, all right.

I figured that was the most,

you know, knowable.

Yeah.

Why don't you sing a bit?

Yeah.

Iron Man.

Diddle, did

it, Iron Man.

But they.

It's like 70s heavy metal.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like before metal got all

Cookie Monster rah, rah, rah.

Yeah.

It was Ozzy Osborne who was the lead singer of okay, okay, I know him.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So this guy, he does an accent perfect.

He does an impression of Ozzy Osborne the whole time.

And he's rewritten all the lyrics to be about hamburgers and frying pan.

The tie of frying pan was.

And he's got a little grill on stage.

And it's not like a real grill, but it's like it's smoke.

And there's like.

That's cool.

It was.

How long have they been a band, Max?

12 years.

What?

Yeah.

So I'm guessing.

Frying pan is Iron Man.

Sweet beef, I'm guessing is Sweet Leaf.

Yep.

I don't really know what these other ones are.

Can you give me a title and I'll try to guess the real title?

Well, yes, I like this game.

More ribs.

More.

Okay.

Oh,

but you don't know the

Black Sabbath?

Are they just general metal?

And you said more ribs?

Yeah.

Okay, more ribs.

Well, I'm guessing it's more.

Thor.

Is it?

I don't know.

More.

Oh, I know what it is.

What?

Warpigs.

Warpigs!

Oh, I would never have guessed Warpigs.

Well, that's because

those are the three

Black Sabbath songs I know.

And like.

Warpigs, I like that.

It was completely sold out.

Oh, clever.

Oh, I love it.

Place was packed.

And the band that went on before them,

the lead singer was crazy.

He was insane.

He was good insane or bad insane?

Oh, fantastic.

But I'm like, you can only do this because you're young.

You cannot keep this pace if you tried.

He's doing like James Brown splits.

He's like, Joey.

Were they metal?

No, they were like a rock.

They were called the Schizophonics.

Schizophonics.

Are they on tour?

Are they local?

I think they tour with

Max Habs.

They're from San Diego.

Okay.

This guy, he had microphone tricks.

He had Mike Stan tricks.

What tricks?

He was doing all sorts of of shit.

What if you found out he's older than you?

Then I'd be like,

I got to climb the Everest that is being a lead singer of a rock band.

How old did he look?

He's got to be in his 20s.

20s.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like he jumped over the security barrier with the mic stand, with the mic in the mic stand, and then managed to climb back up and do this like cool planting the mic stand thing.

He was fantastic.

What's the name of this band?

Schizophonics.

Okay, Schizophonics.

That is a hard, like, if you're a band like a

schizophonic.

Well, I'm, or like a band that has a theme, like, we are a McDonald's

Black Sabbath cover band.

It's very, like, it must be like a.

You need to find the right opener for you.

You don't want someone who's like, oh, we do Burger King

Les Epplin covers.

There was also people in the audience dressed as

there was somebody at Burger King.

There was a Wendy's in there.

And then just a couple of Burger employees.

Do you like fast food?

I did.

You did?

I gave it up?

I gave it up.

Good for you.

Thank you.

What was your go-to?

Burger King.

Yeah, okay.

But I gave Burger King up way before I gave up fast food in general.

But yeah, the quality just.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Is that why you gave it up?

Yeah, it was always cold.

And I'm like, what is

that?

So I just, I'm like, you're not happy at this stuff.

Would you go to like

a place like In-N-Out Burger or something like that or just off of fast food altogether?

Well, off of fast food altogether.

But my favorite fast food story is I never had Chick-fil-A.

Me neither.

And everybody talks about Chick-fil-A.

And I was visiting a friend in New York and I was like, what's the hype about Chick-fil-A?

Yeah.

And then he was like, it's the best.

Right.

And then he's like, you have to.

You've never had it.

I've never had it.

You have to have it.

Because I'm like, I just know that they don't close on Sundays.

No, they do close on Sundays.

Really?

Yeah.

That's what that, like,

because they're religious.

No, they close on.

No, they close on Sundays.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which, okay, yes.

Because there was one in the Calgary airport.

And for years, I like the times I came and we did shows or whatever, I'd be like, oh, maybe I'll get it.

Oh, it's closed.

We're flying out on a Sunday.

No.

So

I had it.

And I said, I've never had it to the cashier.

First time.

So give me the stuff

everything.

And she was so excited.

So excited.

And she gave me everything.

and then i ate it and it was horrible really oh my god i mean the the drink was way too sweet i was like oh my god that's this sugar and that's it is that in canada new york new york is the states i think their soda is a little bit sweeter down there it was dirty sweet just too much um and then their burger

The bread was very dry and hard.

Okay.

It was just a bad experience.

And what is it?

What are they?

I mean, obviously it's chicken, but is it

chicken sandwich?

Is it chicken sandwich, chicken, tenders, a little bit spicy?

Sure, there's always so many different flavors, sure, you know, but yeah, but just chicken, um, but nothing crazy.

Um, and then she came back and she's like, How was it?

And I'm like, Truthfully, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

These are the 10 reasons why I hate everything.

And then she was like, What are you doing?

You're counting to 10.

Okay, so 10 out of 10 now.

No,

But then I told this story and because the bread also, it was bad because the bread was really hard.

And I'm like, the bread is hard.

And she saw it.

And she was like, I'm so sorry.

Really?

So, yeah, it was just really bad.

So I told the story to a friend of mine.

We were traveling to somewhere for improv.

And then a person who worked for Chick-fil-A was sitting next to us.

And they overheard it.

And they were so, they apologized to me.

Oh, really?

Yes, they were

embarrassed by my experience.

And then they gave me like a handful of gift cards.

Really?

They just pulled chicken out of their pockets.

Yeah,

try this.

Take this.

And I have yet to go to a Chick-fil-A sense.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had a similar experience with Taco Bell.

I had one Taco Bell that was so bad,

never

sought it out ever again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what I like is the biscuits from Popeyes.

Oh, yeah.

They're like kind of famous.

I just go in and just order those.

Just a plate of biscuits, please.

A half dozen.

Yeah.

well i share the biscuits from uh red lobster

were i haven't had them since i don't know if it's changed but they sell them in the like freezer now like in the freezer aisle so you don't have to go it's not technically you know fast food or whatever i guess red lobster is not fast food it's slow no it's sit down but they don't have it here yeah they had it in calgary for a long time but never went allergic didn't have it yeah yeah he's allergic to biscuits you know david he walks around those six biscuits like he's the king of the castle, I tell you.

So you like this show?

I liked it.

Have you seen Guar?

I'm going to see Guar on October 29th, two days before Halloween.

Ooh, it's Guar.

Who's Guar?

Oh, let me tell you.

Well, let's pull up some

of that.

So it's kind of in the same vein as Mac Sabbath.

It's guys in costumes.

Okay, you like guys in costumes.

And they're like...

Okay.

Yeah, they're like interdimensional beings.

Dude.

And they like spray blood all over the audience.

Are you serious?

Yeah.

Are they?

Are those

the band?

Yeah.

How is this one standing?

Like, how do you play?

He's got goat feet.

He's got goat feet.

They look like are they mystical?

Are they like, do they have nay?

Of course.

Yeah, they're like from another dimension.

Another dimension?

Another dimension.

Another dimension.

Is there a video game based out of them?

They should.

They look very video game.

They do look very video gamey.

Like, there has to be video games.

Yeah, they kind of look like Goldenex.

Yeah.

So

their big thing is that they spray

blood over the whole audience.

Okay.

Like, not, of course, Miss Veal, but,

but I'm,

I'm going to go.

I'm going to find an all-white outfit so that it gets completely covered in blood.

Oh, my lord.

Are they.

Closer to that though than Max Abbott.

Yeah.

Like a lot more.

We did a bonus episode where we tried to explore their music and I don't remember a single thing.

They also have people come on that they uh dressed as politicians and they like cut their heads off

yeah yeah yeah real talk real talk yeah

and uh yeah they're fun they started as an artist collective in like detroit or something like that virginia oh it might be virginia yeah and then they uh they came up with these costumes and they're all like characters and uh Guar, I think, what was the show Guar was on, like a talk show, daily talk show.

Was it Jenny Jones he was on?

Jenny Jones.

The lead singer of Guar was on.

Yeah.

Why?

Like they have like I'm in love with my neighbor?

I think I'm a monster, and I'm in love with my neighbor.

Uh, yeah, your secret crutches

comes out.

Do you ever go to concerts?

Uh, yes, I went to call, I went to concerts because uh

my god, are you really caught her with that funny question?

Yes.

Yes, not a lot, but I did.

I went to the Baxter Boys concert.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

There it is.

Yeah.

That was so good.

Backstreet Boys.

Robin.

I don't remember many.

Was the Robin concert good?

It was so good.

Yeah.

Anderson Pack, Prince.

Thank God I saw him before he left.

You saw Prince?

Yes.

Wow.

Beyonce.

Yeah.

You're hitting all the bigs.

Yeah.

Janelle Monet.

Okay.

Yeah.

Wu-Tang.

Oh, how was Wu-Tang?

Wu-Tang was amazing.

Okay.

Not the one that just, not the show that just.

passed.

Oh, I was the one last year.

Okay.

It was great.

We bought the cheapest tickets and then we get there, and then some lovely, beautiful woman was like, Hey, do you want to be upgraded?

And I'm like, Why not?

Yeah, yeah.

And then we went straight down.

Oh, wow.

We were just, we saw everything.

We were the only people of color at the concert, but it was great.

Nice.

And it was so much fun.

I had a great time.

Was that at Rogers?

I believe so.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

You're always getting hooked up.

Maybe you were badmouthing Wu-Tang Clan and like, actually, we want to give you some gift cards for some food.

I'm going to leave you over.

No, because we were literally, not literally but we were literally the only people there uh and i think they were filming it because i heard somebody because they had like crew and then somebody pointed over there and then two seconds later i saw a camera crew just in front of the

we got the shot

okay smile

it is weird and we're smiling

so if they ever have a documentary movie, I'm going to watch it because I'm like, I'm just going to look for me.

Hell yeah.

If they ever showcase Vancouver.

I've only started going to concerts in the last couple of years.

They're fun.

They're fun.

Yeah.

Like last night just to go, it was done by 10, you know?

Got to sit.

Got to sit the whole time.

Didn't have to stand in a sweaty pack of people.

And I was like, this is fun.

I can't think of a more fun way to spend like whatever it was, 30 bucks or whatever.

I'm down paying really cheap tickets for cheap seats and just watch a show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now, would you, when you go out and go to concerts, did you dress up?

Yes, I think I started dressing up when I went to the Beyoncé concert.

I went with a friend and they were very enthusiastic about it.

So I'm like, I had to.

And I was like, wow,

it's a thing.

Yeah.

People do it.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Guys, we are about three minutes away from 5.55.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

We'll just stay tuned, everybody.

But the thing is, you can't, that's the thing.

You can't wait for it and look for it.

I know.

It has to organically happen.

Do you remember like when you look at a clock and it's got a second counter like that?

Yeah.

Do you ever, um, does it ever feel like the moment you look at it, that second lasts extra long?

Yes.

Oh, yeah, I just did it.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, no, I thought it, I thought the time passed.

No, but if you look.

It does.

Sounds explained.

I've never noticed that before.

That's awesome.

There's some name for that.

Seeing a second, yeah, there's like a name for that effect or that phenomenon.

I love that.

Yeah.

Do you guys want to move on to some overheards?

Sure.

Overheards.

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I'm one of the co-hosts of Comfort Creatures, and I'm here with River Jew, who has been a member since 2019.

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It feels good to be part of that.

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I'm actually going to LA in September, so I'll get to use the parking.

Yes.

Thank you so much, River, for doing this.

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Okay, cool.

Overheard.

Overheards.

Now, if you've ever heard the show before, it's hearing things out there in the world and then talking about them.

It couldn't be more simple.

And we always like to start with the guest.

Essay, do you have an award?

Okay, yes.

I was taking an Uber one day and I was talking to the driver and he told me that he used to drive trucks.

Okay.

And he told me that there's a mountain,

I think, maybe in BC or the border, or maybe closer to Seattle, where it's not a mountain.

It's a storage space.

Oh,

really?

It's like a giant.

hill of full of stuff.

Yes.

And it's secret.

Okay.

It's obviously government protected with some codes.

Joe, yeah, absolutely some codes.

And I was like, what's there?

He's like, things.

Like,

not allowed to talk.

Yeah.

And I'm just like, now when I see a mountain, if I drive past the mountain, I'm like, what's in it?

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

What's it

fake?

And I'm just like, would people, it's like, it looks like a mountain.

Like when you're driving down the highway, there's like,

it's like, damn.

How long has it been there?

Forever?

I would assume so.

But like,

they would carve it out on

the bottom.

It was a real mountain.

They didn't build a new mountain.

No, it was a real mountain.

A real mountain.

Like, stuff's in there.

Stuff's in there.

I have to wonder, like, where

are all.

Oh, no.

You went to 550.

But it's still 5.55.

That's still good.

Now I have to wait for it.

It kind of lost its power, hasn't it?

Yeah, but also, it's still.

We still got it.

5.55.

We're still going to get it.

Yeah, we're going to get it.

You're never going to get it.

Here it goes.

Three, four,

five.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

Merry Christmas.

It lost its power, though.

You have to find an organic.

Yeah, you have to find an organic.

That's fine.

You got four, four, four, four, four.

Yes.

Dave, do you have an overheard?

Okay, a couple weeks ago, I was at

the nursery in Southland, which is where I, it's actually a kind of a pricey plant buying place.

Okay.

But it was the end of summer, so I I was like, maybe there'll be some deals.

Are you a plant person?

I'm a flower and garden guy.

Yeah.

And

so I was walking through.

There were no deals.

No.

No closing out summer tomato plant.

But right next to the

nursery, there was,

I mean, it's a super rich neighborhood, and there's giant properties, and you can't even see inside them.

And like, it's, it's an area of town where there's signs saying, watch out for horses because people just have horses.

Wow.

And, uh, but there was a really loud, great-sounding band playing.

Okay.

And they were playing, uh, they played, I was like, oh, what's this?

And it was Simply the Best by Tina Turner.

That's awesome.

And it was like two in the afternoon.

And then when that was done, they played

It's Only Love by Tina Turner and Brian Oaks.

Nice.

Nice.

And then after that, they started playing What's Love Got to Do It?

Oh, wow.

And then they cut that short and went right into We Don't Need Another Hero.

I did a Hero

Bit to that song.

And then they did,

they played all of that, and then they played Proud Mary.

And I

checked out a lot of music.

Yes.

And then I asked someone who was

no, I was just, I could hear it from across the street.

It was so loud.

Yeah.

I asked someone at the plant nursery, I was like,

have they been doing this all day?

And they said, No, I think there's a wedding happening here tonight.

The band is just sound checking.

And then, so they finished Proud Mary, and I was walking back to my car.

And I just overheard someone like looking over the fence.

And they said, It's a little freaky how much you sound like Tina Turner.

Yeah, you're simply the best, I guess.

We'll just, yeah.

I like, was it a guy that sounded like

Tina Turner?

I told him it was a lady, and she sounded just like Tina Turner.

Wow.

R.I.P.

Yeah.

And actually, the song is called The Best.

Oh, I called it Simply The Best because that's what

it should be called Simply the Best.

Yeah.

It's one of those.

What was your hero?

We don't need another Hero pick.

I wrote

after We Don't Need Another Heroes.

There was a TV show.

I think they were trying to recreate it.

And

we don't need another heroes.

That's what we're doing.

Yeah, what was it?

In the wake of Heroes, there were like a few kind of like.

Was it Heroes with Save the Cheerleader?

Save the World?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I feel like they tried to make a few other shows in that mold.

Yes.

It was the same time as Lost, but

that was a different mold.

Yeah.

But it's...

Yeah.

It's of that era.

It's very specific.

But it was like, but if you wanted to recreate another show that's been done, then recreate Quantum Leap.

Yeah.

They did.

They did.

They recreated it.

And I watched an episode.

No, Scott Bakul is the guy.

He's the guy you want to see travel through time, not some other guy.

Yeah.

They redid MacGyver, and that lasted a few years.

Yeah, that's true.

But

is Richter Dean Anderson a force?

I guess

he had a great head of hair on the original run.

And do you ever see MacGyver?

No.

He was a guy who could build things out of anything.

Or get out of things.

Yeah, he could get out of anything.

You know, all he needed was like a paperclip and a

bit of rubber or whatever, and he would figure it out.

You could make like a kind of paperclip device.

Or you can make like one of these,

like a pig with the tail.

You need to push pin an eraser.

What's your overheard, sir?

My overheard, something that was said to me last night at the show.

I was stopped in the stairwell by a guy who recognized me and he was like, hey, I know you from back in the day.

I used to go to the Kino, which is now a distant memory, but it's now a Japanese taco restaurant.

Yeah, no comedy happened there.

But this guy was like, Oh,

no, I don't think any flamenco.

I don't know where you go for flamenco these days.

But he was like, Yeah, yeah, I really liked your stuff.

I thought you were really funny.

I was like, Yeah, thanks very, very much.

He goes, Yeah, man, you have those plastic guns.

And I was like, You're thinking of Chris Gordon.

Oh,

that's not me at all.

And did you realize No, this guy did the exact same thing to me five years ago when the keto was open.

Oh, wow.

Like, it was, uh, I wasn't, I was like, that's fine, but I was just like,

can I just walk away now?

Or do you have to continue this conversation?

Yeah, I really missed those plastic guns.

That was really cool.

You should have really kind of like sandbagged Chris.

Yeah, I kind of had to stop doing that because I got arrested for

robbing a bank, for robbing a bank.

And also, I have a tiny penis.

Well, good night.

Remember my name.

Tell the world.

Yeah.

I'm Chris Gordon.

Now, we also have overheard sent in from people all over.

You want to send one in?

You can send it to SBY at maximumfund.org.

And

here's a few of them that I think you'll enjoy.

I just

got an email.

It was like, invoice due.

And I was like,

how much do you owe?

Let's see.

Not a lot.

I rarely get invoiced.

I just get a.

I'm always doing invoices.

I send invoice.

$200 I owe.

$200.

You owe?

Yeah.

I know, right?

I'm going to miss that $200

when it goes, man.

Oh, man.

What did you buy?

This was for a social media campaign for my laugh gallery show that happens every Thursday

at LMG.

No, actually, this was for the 24-hour show.

Okay.

So it is an outstanding invoice.

I do owe them, but I don't want to hear about it.

Don't make a big deal about it.

Am I going to get a message from you later saying, hey, cut that out?

No.

I didn't say the name of the company.

Sure, sure, but you know.

Chris Gordon Enterprises.

Yeah, we can keep that in.

This first one comes from Scott in Omaha.

Earlier today, I was

riding through the barbershop district of La Paz, Bolivia.

Okay.

That's awesome that there's a whole district.

And about half of the shops advertised themselves as barbershop, and the other half

were compro cabello, aka I buy hair, which I like a salon, maybe?

Well, like a haircutting place and then a place to cut your hair.

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, wigs, maybe?

yeah anyways uh i i just i just had no idea maybe you've never heard of that just a pervert is that the overheard yeah

yeah i was like what happened at that salon he didn't uh whoever it was he didn't go scott i mean he it's half a story really because you want to go in and but uh go back to la paz yeah go to the hair cutting district what districts do we have here

for a long time we had like outdoors

no

my hair district we had like a camping

outdoor Broadway.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was a copying neighborhood.

I remember when all the copiers were just off Burrard and Broadway.

There was like four.

There's one on each corner.

There was a

like skiing, snowboarding at 4th and Burrard.

Absolutely.

And then there was,

I feel like South Granville had a like a guitar area.

Oh, okay.

There was that big music.

Yeah, music.

equipment supply.

Yeah.

Long and McQueen.

Yeah.

No.

No.

Oh, the one downtown.

Yeah.

What is that called?

Tom Lee?

Tom Lee.

Yeah, Tom Lee.

Yeah.

They're still in biz, right?

Tom Lee?

Oh, yeah.

They've moved.

They're, I think, like in the London drugs area.

The London drugs district.

Oh, no, you know what?

Forthen Brad is now like the car district.

Oh, yeah.

They go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is a good use of land.

I've always said that what the city needs is like the Jaguar Maserati dealerships in the city.

In the city.

This next one comes from Angela from Toronto.

This is Angela from Toronto.

She starts.

I was at the Toronto Zoo looking at the bisons.

A young girl walked up to the fence.

She was likely five or six and said, now here is a family of

heavy metal ding-dongs.

Oh,

do you call bison the heavy metal ding-dong?

I see that.

What's heavy metal about them?

I guess they're shaggy.

They look a little like guar.

Yeah,

they definitely have a guar feel.

I don't know.

They've got the hair hanging down.

They look, they look.

Yeah.

What would you, if you had to describe what a bison looks like, it'd be like.

A bison is like a big

buffalo.

Yeah, a buffalo buffalo, but they have the shaggy.

Yeah.

They're big horns.

They've got horns.

Yeah.

And they've got.

Some sort of like, I guess I'd say heavy metal ding-dong if you had to pick.

I mean, the ding-dong sounds a little bit rude.

That looks a little heavy metal.

That guy looks like the guy from Slayer.

Yeah.

That had the long goatee.

I think this is cute.

I mean, yeah, I see heavy metal.

I don't get ding-dong, but I see heavy metal.

Yeah, I don't get ding-dong either.

But it was a mom saying it to her kid?

This is a kid saying it.

Oh, okay.

That makes a bit more sense.

Hey, check this out.

I do love the idea of a mom saying it.

Checking these heavy metal ding-dongs.

Anyway, I'll be in the car.

There's my bugs.

It stinks here.

Oh, that was the thing about the zoo.

Toronto zoo, that's a big animal.

Have you either

been to Toronto Zoo?

I don't generally like zoos, but I think I've been to a zoo, but no, not Toronto Zoo.

Fair enough.

Calgary Zoo.

Every field trip, Calgary Zoo.

The times we've gone to Palm Springs, we often go to the Living Desert, which is their zoo, and it is so hot, I hate it.

Use a review.

It's so hot, I hate it.

This last one comes from Amy from Auckland, New Zealand.

I'm sitting in the office next to my work wife.

I've never liked that term.

I've never liked the term work wife.

Oh, well, okay.

But what do you call me?

That's a great question.

My side piece.

My smoke show.

My smoke show.

I was sitting in the office next to my work wife after lunch, and the head of finance just came back to his desk after a meeting.

We heard him muttering, get a little treat.

You deserve it.

While marching past, and we both cheered, yeah.

And he stopped with a panic look and said, oh, did I say that out loud?

that was for him.

Executive director, you deserve a little treat.

Positive pep talk gets each other.

Have you ever worked an office job?

I have.

Do you like a little treat during the workday?

No.

Okay.

No, because

it gets you tired.

Yeah, you get a spike and then, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm a 3 p.m.

Give me something

biscuity.

Yeah.

A cookie.

Anything like, to me, that's the whole game behind tea: is getting access to cookies.

I know.

Yeah.

But no fast food.

I would take it and eat it after.

Okay.

But I wouldn't eat it.

Do you eat sweets at all?

I do.

Okay.

I do.

I do.

I do.

Because I was just like, you're like a superhuman being if you don't have sweets and I do.

No, fast food.

And you don't like cold Burger King.

No.

Or hard Chick-fil-A?

I'm a particular person.

Now, in addition to overheards that are written in, we also accept your phone calls.

If you want to call us, our phone number is 1-844-779-7631.

That's one ugh SpyPod 1, like these people have.

Hi, Dave Graham and possible guests.

This is Chris on location at a hotel bar in the Berkshires,

where I just overheard one of the workers saying to a customer, yeah, my boyfriend does a lot of the household chores, and I do a lot of cocaine.

After a few more minutes of snooping in on the conversation, I realized she actually had said cocaine.

All right, off I go.

Thank God.

Yeah.

I mean, you're about to hear.

Yeah, my boyfriend does a lot of the chores that I just

do cocaine.

And I think cocaine, from what I've seen in the movies, would make you good at chores.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Also, if you watch those movies from the 80s, right to the top of the executive, like, oh,

yeah, you're going to fall hard.

That's right.

Yeah, you can only smoke.

Smoke.

Sniff.

Sniff.

I sniff my way to the top.

And then, like you said, it's all going to come falling down.

Yeah.

You built your empire on cocaine.

Like Scarface.

Yeah.

That movie was so beautifully sad.

It was so tragic.

Scarface?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you ever watch

Love Island?

Did you watch the latest season of Love Island?

Yes.

So the guy, do you not feel like it's a red flag that there was a guy that had Tony Montoya tattooed on his stomach?

And what about Montana?

I think that was Pepe, wasn't it?

Yeah, but Pepe is an international basketball player.

Right.

You know?

So that's fine.

You know.

There's a guy that had a Joker tattoo on his arm.

Yeah, those.

That is.

That was bad.

Yeah.

Maybe that was Pepe.

I can't remember who had that tattoo.

Let's see.

You're talking about Love Island USA's Pepe Garcia Gonzalez?

That's the guy, I think.

It's hard to see his tattoos because he's always wearing a shirt.

Who was your favorite couple?

Look, I was in it for the drama, so anything Huda was involved in.

Huda is wild.

She scares me.

Yeah, me too.

She is terrifying.

But I thought

she was the show.

She was.

She wasn't the show per se,

but...

Who did you like?

Ooh, I wanted Huda out because she just gave me strong anxiety.

That's the same as her.

You were just giving me...

anxiety all the time.

But I loved Olandria.

She was just

great.

I love her.

She was fantastic.

I Olandria, but like, it was also a boring season.

Well, I mean, like, I think Huda was the only one stirring the pot.

Yeah, but like, it was, I just saw a sad girl, and I'm just like, you need a hug from your mom.

Yeah.

Brian had the scarface tattoo.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

But that relationship is not.

It's done.

And it was

whoever you said before, Pepe had the Joker tattoo.

Yeah.

Yes, I remember that.

And I was like, and it's the Keith Ledger Joker.

It's not even like a cartoon.

It's not even the good Jared Leto one.

That almost always gets left out of the Joker conversation.

I never knew he played Joker.

Yeah.

Oh, yes, with Harleck and what is, what is the,

how many guys on this show?

Is it just swarming with people?

It's swarming with people, yeah.

And then they,

it's like the, yeah, like, they kind of, then they bum around for a few episodes, and then they go to another villa where there's all new people.

I never watched it.

You should and shouldn't.

But also I didn't real like, I didn't realize what a big phenomenon and that it was daily.

Was it on like all summer long?

It was if

they released episodes like on Wednesday.

Quite behind.

So

it was done by the time I but I would always fast forward a lot of it.

Like I didn't sit and watch it was a lot of sitting around and them just chatting.

Talking and it's all like, I mean, we all know this isn't real.

Like, okay.

And these relationships aren't

yeah nobody's actually people are just really concerned about people being together it's like this isn't these people are just they just want to get a

some social media followers so they can get sponsored i know oh gosh but it's yeah it was a i did enjoy huda's antics but she just gave me anxiety i understood yeah yeah um We wish her the best.

Yeah.

Well, next phone call.

Yeah, okay.

Hi guys, this is Emily Emily from America.

I won't give you the state because this is a license plate overheard.

I don't know if that's legal, but I saw a license plate, a vanity plate that was supposed to say blessed,

but I think

mistaken.

And it was spelled BL33SED.

Bleast.

Oh,

please.

I just lost it.

Believed.

As CB, please.

What did I say?

We're bleeding.

I'm too pleased to be squeezed.

Yeah.

And also, I hope your lawn looks great after that.

I heard someone mowing it in the background.

Oh, man.

I had

a video call today.

And I swear to you, not a day in the past two weeks has a truck rumbled down the alley.

Today, four different trucks.

All air brakes and beeping.

And oh man, oh man.

Of all the days.

Of all the days you had to do your big presentation.

Yeah.

And I deserve a little treat.

It went well.

And here's your final phone call.

Hello, Dave Graham, an esteemed guest.

This is Zane from Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Calling in an overheard.

I was at a Detroit Tigers baseball game, and I was coming back down to my seat from buying a pretzel.

And these two women were shouting across the aisle at each other so I don't think they knew each other

and they were a little drunk but one of them says I can't believe they always toss these foul balls to kids and the other one says yeah and they don't even contribute to the economy

anyway off I go

yeah I mean

agree to disagree I think kids are they're keeping the toy market afloat yeah that's true they're always saying mommy mommy can I stop and get a treat Yeah, absolutely.

I want that cereal.

I want this care.

We have treats at home, son.

Yeah, there's raisins in the car.

Oh, raisins.

Did you, have you all seen that?

Lady who got the whole Karen?

Yeah.

I mean, wild person.

She deserves it.

She seems like a nasty person.

She does, but also, like, when then they were showing other angles.

Yeah.

Like I said with the cold play couple, I don't need to go.

I don't want to find these people

identities.

I want one minute of feeling good that I'm not them, and then I'm over it.

We don't need to backstories.

We don't need another hero.

I feel like the news is so toxic that everybody's like, here's the thing that's not, hey, let's be mean to this lady.

Yeah, it's wild.

I also, I mentioned phone calls, but you can also send voice memos.

And as you heard, a couple of those people were voice memos.

Send them to spy at maximumfun.org.

Those voice memos, nice and clear.

I know.

A little too clear.

Too clear.

Okay.

They put a phone sound effect.

Right behind you.

Well,

well, that's the end of this talk.

No.

Essay, thank you so much for stay until it's 666.

I would love to.

I would love to.

Thank you for having me.

This was so much fun.

And if people want to find you online, social media, where do they go?

Little Clitty at Little Clitty Instagram.

That's L-I-L.

Little L-I-L.

Yeah.

Yeah.

L-I-L-C-L-I-T-T-Y-X.

Little Clitty X.

On Instagram.

And if you're in Vancouver and you like improv, come watch Seasoned Improv first Friday of every month at LMG.

Nice.

7.30.

And if you haven't seen this group.

Myself, Ronald, Dario, and Kevin Bedan.

Nice, good crew.

Best group.

If you haven't seen SA Perform, do yourself a favor, you know, go check it out.

I'm pretty cool.

You're pretty cool.

Come on.

And thank you, everybody out there for listening.

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