Episode 913 - Sophia Johnson

Hi, he's Dave Shumka, and he's Graham Clark.

And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode number 913 of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

My name is Graham Clark, and with me, as always, is a man who it's so nice nice to see actually in person after two weeks

abroad.

No, askew, away.

That was your Dave Shumka.

I was askew for two weeks.

I was sort of in the.

Is the Kevin Smith universe?

If you askew in the verse,

the Kevin Smith movies.

Yep.

Yeah, that's maybe.

Is that a very well thought-out cinematic universe?

Well, it's all kind of centers around clerks.

It seems to be clerks and mall rats.

Yeah.

And then is Chasing Amy for the...

Well, I guess anywhere that Sideshow Bob and Quiet Dan show up.

Both variations of the same character.

Sorry, Lieutenant Dan.

Is it well thought out?

I don't know.

I wouldn't say that.

Are they in all of them?

Are they in...

Now our guest who hasn't seen a movie in her life.

Yeah, this all sounds like gibberish.

But they're in.

They're the ones that they're the connective tissue.

Are they in

Dogma?

Yes.

Are they in Zach and Miri make a porno?

Oh, maybe not.

Maybe that's not.

Maybe that's not Canada.

That was maybe a little bit sophisticated.

Yeah, and he also made two weird horror movies.

He made one about a Walrus and he made one about...

We're talking about Kevin Smith.

Kevin Smith, New Jersey Zone.

New Jersey

auteur.

I like that he lost quite a tremendous amount of weight and still wears the same size of hockey jersey, So he looks like a little kid that you put daddy's jersey on.

Yeah.

Our guest today, returning guest to the podcast.

First time in person.

Yeah, right here in person.

She is recording her first special on September 27th.

7th at the review stage on Granville Island here in Vancouver, British Columbia.

It's Sophia Johnson.

Hello.

Hello.

Thank you for joining us.

She's a waiter.

Hello.

I'm waving at the imaginary people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As I said that, I was like, are we filming?

And then I was like, wait, we're not.

No, but we do have to remember to take a picture at some point.

That's right.

Yeah.

When you come back,

when I come back for more.

Or should we get to know us?

Let's take a picture right now.

Yeah.

Get to know us.

That's your signature move.

It's going to be in your special.

Yeah, I'm trying.

I'm actually, because I keep watching myself back at sets and being like, why do you do all these dumb waves and things, you know?

Like, why are you so?

Because I think one of my issues or strengths, whichever way you look at it, mostly an issue, is that I am quite fidgety in movie.

Yeah.

Like I move around a lot.

I'm kind of, and I know, like, when I'm acting, I've got to be aware of it.

And I think with comedy too, for a special, I don't want to be too.

But you're not somebody who prowls the stage.

You kind of, right?

You're fairly stationary.

No, I just stand hunched in the center like a spider.

Is that because you have been told, hey, stop fidgeting so much?

Maybe I did.

I remember like the

first or second day when I was the soap opera that I mentioned last time, the director.

What was the name of that in Shortland Street?

Shortland Street.

Shortland Street.

Shortland Street.

It's about doctors.

One of the directors actually said to me, he was like,

later on, I sort of became friends with him later on.

He was a bit of trivia.

He was on in The Hobbit.

as one of the dwarves.

So he was just kind of like this big guy and he had such a gravelly voice, you know, and he said, Sophia, I have never in my life met another actor that moves as much as you do.

And I was just terrified.

Like I was just like, oh no.

So from then on, I was like, I think too still.

You know, because I was so, I was like, you would always be like,

I don't know.

But I think it's just naturally how I am, how I felt.

Like quite a sort of.

Now, in New Zealand, is it hard to meet anyone who wasn't in the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings movies?

It's impossible.

Or the Sikkim or Sikkim so far.

What was like, I don't know if I've mentioned this before, because people will be like, oh, was, you know, was Lord of the.

Do New Zealanders like Lord of the Rings?

Or are they sick of hearing about it?

Or not sick of hearing about it?

We love it.

Like, we...

Like,

everyone knows someone that at least worked in the market, like the Orc mask sweatshop, you know?

No, sure.

Or the, you know, because it was such a huge, like, it was such a huge employment thing you know it was like you were either molding orc masks with your hands or you were an actor or I think the New Zealand army played the orcs in one of the luck that you guys weren't invaded at the time

or actually they might have won yeah that's true

the invading army was like who were excited

so scary um now a couple weeks ago we had a guest on the show who is moving to new zealand yeah is there a comedian exchange program program going on?

Yeah.

Rory Dunn.

Rory Dunn.

Yeah.

If you had to tell Rory or have you told him.

Yeah.

What are the things you should do that aren't Lord of the Rings connected?

What would you tell him?

I think that he should touristy stuff he should do.

Or just, yeah,

did you do comedy there?

Yes, yes.

I did comedy there for about five years before.

So you could give him that advice.

Totally.

Like, but I think, like, because I think Rory's one of those dudes who's like, I'm going to figure it out.

But I was like, yeah, I'm happy to message the club owner.

There's only one club in the country.

It's called The Classic, the Classic, it's called The Classic, and it's a total legend.

And then there is also, like, I was like, I can reach out to them, I can reach out to some friends there for you, you know.

And I think he's like, Yep, let me get settled.

And I think he wants to like maybe find a place, travel for a bit, and then, yeah.

But I think, in terms of what I would tell him,

I think a lot of Canadians I noticed go to the South Island because obviously, New Zealand, for those that don't know, two islands.

A lot of people don't know because it's left off a lot of maps, which is hurtful.

Yeah, it is hurtful.

But there's the North Island, is the south island i think is more similar to canada climate-wise okay so a lot of people go to the south island they're like oh i saw these mountains and i was like why didn't you just stay here

like like i went and snowboarded you know whereas the north island is climate wise a bit more subtropical they have black sand beaches

yeah and like really cool like just like amazing trees and jungly stuff orcs more jackson dorks yeah oh i mean they do have dorks

a lot of dorks dorks.

Yeah.

One of them right here.

That's why I wore this Casio watch.

Just a different dork.

This is a gigantic watch.

This is only a dork would wear this.

Is this really?

It's a Casio, like, let me see the face of it here.

It's a referee's watch.

Oh, cool.

So that I can, like, I'm very into, like, so when I'm on stage, I like stop, watch, prep, start, boom, look down.

It's because

they didn't have any women's ones, though.

So I was like, I'll just get a.

But now it's just like my whole art.

Now, yeah.

so, like, what is a referee?

Like, a soccer referee, footy.

No, we call it soccer, too.

Okay, you do, yeah, which is weird.

Like, there's some stuff we call soccer, some stuff we call soccer.

Do you guys drive on the English side of the road?

We drive on the English, okay?

So, but you call it soccer, okay?

Yeah, yeah,

contradictions all over a lot of stuff's English.

Actually, I know I'm segwaying all over the place, so hopefully, that's fine.

We will stitch it together, post-it together.

But I had almost a fight with someone.

I don't know if this is going to be relevant to if there's musicians at you.

Are you musicians?

Are you a musician?

Yeah, you got a piano.

So someone was throwing me her tattoo the other night and it had a little, it was a rest, you know, it was a rest of what you guys, I found out, would call a quarter note.

Right.

And I was like, that's not a quarter note.

That's a crotchet.

So it turns out like the British have a whole system, and we don't even know what a quarter note is.

You can study, like, I did Royal School's music.

You never learn that term.

You never learned that.

Do you have like eighth notes and sixteen notes?

No, we have none of so we have a crotchet, a watchet, a blocket.

We have crotchets, and then half of a crotchet's a quaver, and then half of a quaver is a demi, it's a semi-quaver, and then half of a semi-quaver is a demi-semi-quaver.

What's bigger?

What's a half-note?

So, a half note is

a half note's a minimum, and a whole note's a semi-breve, and a double note, I guess, is a breve.

But, like, does this make any sense to you?

Yeah, I mean,

I, the, like, I play guitar, but I don't read music.

I used to read music when I played cello as a child, but we were at each other's throats.

I was like, it's a crotchet.

She was like, it's a chord.

Because to us, because a crotchet, but we also learned that a crotchet is one note.

And a quaver is half a note.

Do you know what I mean?

So it's like, it doesn't even really translate easily.

What do you call like a yamaha motorcycle over there um

we call it a crotchet type we call it a crotch rock yeah

um but yeah it was just it's interesting because there's some things that you know trans like we call a pepper a capsicum and you know there's a couple of things oh sure okay oh yeah we do uh cilantro or corian yeah corian there's like things like that but this was the wildest thing where it was like we because she'd studied music all her life her mom was a violin teacher and the fact that and i i studied not as much as her but like but we just didn't even we weren't even aware that each other's system existed right like it was like this moment of like she was like it's a corner note and i was like it's a crotchet you know like it was like there are

um like some canadianisms that are that overlap with the british yeah that i assume happen in new zealand as well um do you say napkin or serve

we say both i think yeah because we like my grandmother used to say serviette yeah Servia's.

It's

losing out.

Same like

Chesterfield.

I feel like my grandparents called it Chesterfield.

Do you know Chesterfield?

No.

It's couch.

Oh, whoa.

Yeah, but it's like it's.

So all couches are Chesterfield?

Yeah, they're all Chesterfields.

I think it was a brand at some point.

That's when you get the brand name.

Like in New Zealand,

is it Klingrap?

Yeah.

That's always Glad Rap, which is the brand.

Sure.

Yeah.

So stuff like that where the brand takes over.

And there are different Canadianisms that, like, I feel like my family was like, Dave, in Canada, we do not say first grade, we say grade one.

You say grade one.

And like, you don't say first grade.

And now my kids say first grade, second grade, and I don't care.

You mean year one, as we call it?

I think we're just losing that one.

Yeah, and it's, wow, we had a giant hit.

We were both in grade nine called This Is Me in Grade Nine.

Yeah, yeah.

And that really cemented.

What's this?

This is me in Grade Nine?

This was a Bare Naked Ladies song.

Do you know The Bare Naked Lady?

No, I've heard of the Bare Naked Ladies.

They're a Canadian band.

They're Canadian ladies.

Yeah, yeah.

They're sort of, I guess, the greatest band of all time.

Yeah, okay.

I've heard of them.

If you have to, I guess so.

I'm thinking of other bands.

But they had a song called Grade Nine.

Yeah, I think it came out when I was a grade seven.

I feel, oh, yeah, maybe.

But it's about, but we also in Vancouver, we don't have

grade nine is the second year of high school here, so it means a different thing.

That's true.

Yeah.

How did the song go?

This is me and grade nine, baby.

This is me.

But it's about being like your first year in high school, yeah.

Okay, cool.

Um, what

who's the biggest band in New Zealand?

Oh my god, that like a New Zealand band.

I mean, obviously, we have the greats, we have like Lord, right?

Which

but we also have this amazing, uh, similar to Lord, but before Lord, called Bick Ringer, Bick Bick Runger, who I don't know.

Do you know Bick Runger?

Do you want me to sing?

Yeah, please, please.

Oh, it's such a high note.

Don't stay, Lucy.

Don't come in, cool,

like you do.

Nice.

The Harmony's gas.

And

yeah, because I was talking to Rory when Rory was here.

We were like, are there New Zealand people that aren't famous here?

Like, we only know the people who left the gunfree.

Yeah.

There definitely are.

Like, there's definitely, like, 660 is quite a famous band.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know that.

Yeah, there was definitely some, like, I think Fat Freddy's Drop.

It was like sort of reggae.

This is great.

Yeah, more of these bands than that.

And there was this band called Alamen OP that I didn't know was a world-famous band because I keep going to people.

I keep going around and being like, do you guys know that song that goes like, Every day's a Saturday, every night's a night like this.

And they're like, no, so, but I was like, I just assumed, I was like, but there was this one New Zealand band, which I think about all the time because it was like, they were like,

what's the word?

Like a troll band.

Like they were, they're a band, but they were like joking.

But then they became kind of hard in New Zealand.

Everyone's kind of

everyone is a troll.

But they became really famous.

And they were called Deja Voodoo.

And they would do songs like, which now are like, like, pretty un PCs, but they'd be like, like, their hits were like, I would give you a beer, but I've only got six.

You know, like, they had these, yeah, they had, like, these fun.

And then when, like, you know, when meth was first becoming a big problem.

I was like, is this another band?

When meth was blowing up, when meth was blowing up, they were like, I smoke bee, and I'm okay.

Like, that was like, they would do just like weird, you know.

There are weird like bands that growing up, you're like, oh, this is, this band is huge.

They must be huge all over the world.

And then there's bands you're like, there's no way.

Yeah, and they, I knew.

My wife grew up in Switzerland, and they would see music videos for this band called Guano Apes.

And they were like, white people with dreadlocks, I think.

Nice.

And they were like, no way this band is big outside.

But white people with dreadlocks are still big in Europe.

Oh, yeah.

My brother lives in Germany.

I've tried to tell him to cut off his dreads.

He's like, but everyone has dreads.

Normal weird.

It's 1999 in Germany.

Everyone's in

the rave scene from the Matrix.

Do you have dreads at one point?

Did I do what?

Did you have dreads at one point?

No, I never had dreads, but dreads were huge.

Like, I actually kind of do a joke on it in the special.

Like,

all my first crushes were guys with dreads you know I'd be like I'd be like the government

the twins from the second matrix yeah vanilla ice when he put out his second album I'd be like the government wants him to brush his hair yeah yeah yeah but he won't do it it's crazy like but no it was it was big my best friend Lily had dreads but she was like a cool well even when she was 13 she was just like a cool stoner chick you know like sure she had dreads and I remember one time she got caught smoking weed you know behind one of the classrooms by one of the teachers and he was just like oh Lily,

I thought you said you were just smoking on weekends.

She was like, sorry, so it's hard.

Yeah,

I don't think I knew anybody that had dreads, but I was like, they were very much on my radar as being like, that would be a thing I wanted to do.

Yeah, it was very,

I was discouraged.

And thankfully, so.

Yeah, there was no.

concept that it was later on going to be a cancelable

yeah yeah yeah it was like man i wish i had those, you know, yeah, but also, like, I think you need kind of a like a full thick head of hair.

I don't think anyone's been cancelled as a white guy with dreads.

I don't think that I'd like to see it.

Just ridiculed, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, have you ever seen somebody that just has one giant dread?

Oh, yeah, one dread.

Well, yeah, I think he's a known guy in New Zealand.

One dread?

Oh, yeah.

But what was this song again?

One dread?

I would give you a dread, but I've only got one.

Yeah, that's it.

no there is a guy called one dread he's a famous because in new zealand this is not true is it no it's true like i might even be able to look it up like there's a i'll look it up right here one dread new zealand because he's a famous homeless person i think rip one dread yeah he died oh no he died it's coming up on uh i'm very sad to hear that um yeah and it was in the new zealand herald which is our biggest newspaper RIZ One Dread.

He died in 2024.

The life and death of One Dread.

Yeah.

See, I don't just make the stuff up.

No, you don't.

But it sounds like you are.

It does.

Well, that's the thing with.

Popular Auckland street figure.

Who are the, like, I guess

there's no, Canada doesn't have a famous homeless guy.

No, one of our, like, our legacies in Canada is that Cirque du Soleil was started by some street performers.

Yeah, that's true.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

So.

In Montreal.

In Montreal, yeah.

But it was like a couple of, I don't know, jugglers, I want to say, or something, and they came up with.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I actually, I used

talking to some you mentioned this last time about saying Busker as well saying Busker and I feel like that maybe is a slur to people who are street performers

no I don't think so I don't know I feel like busker's like a level up like busker is better than street performers they have like well they have like the busker festival in New Zealand see but New Zealand can be probably all sorts of things

that was actually one of the things that That I find like illuminating and disappointing a little bit about the Vancouver scene is that I feel like street performers get a lot more cred in New Zealand.

Like, they'll be like, wow, you can juggle knives.

Whereas here's like, oh, he can juggle knives.

What a loser.

You know, like, he has to juggle knives.

There's no, like,

yeah, exactly.

There's no, because I remember my friend who was an actor, he did the thing where you paint yourself bronze, right?

And then you're that statue guy, the bronze statue.

Yeah, yeah.

And I remember thinking, I should do that.

That's so cool.

Like, really wanting.

First time I saw it, I thought it was so cool.

What, the statue thing?

Yeah.

I think I saw one in Barcelona that was a guy on the toilet.

And he had painted the toilet bronze as well.

That's good.

Elsa, you're so much easier.

You don't have to stand all day.

Yeah, that is really square.

The first time when I was a kid, when I saw a busker, I thought it was the best thing in the world.

He did a thing where he was juggling bowling balls.

One hit him on the head.

And I was like, this is good.

This is as good as entertainment gets.

Yeah.

For a kid, you're like, well, you love that.

Yeah.

I had an autograph from the guy.

Do you still have it?

Yeah, I probably do.

It's probably at my parents' house.

Yeah, yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Did they pay?

Did they tip him?

No, we were like, nah.

No, of course we did.

Sometimes I take sarcasm as real.

That's a problem.

It's the kind of thing where you don't immediately know, like, oh, this person, oh, they get paid through, oh, okay.

I thought they were just doing this because they're insane.

Which is partially true.

Yeah.

Did I tell you about the, I can't remember if it was you or somebody else was telling me, but the bagpipe guy at Waterfront Station?

He's this guy.

He wears like stilts that look and they look like hooves.

And he plays this giant,

gigantic bagpipe.

And he had like a little stand that had three different tap.

So $1, $2, $3 tap.

I've never seen that before.

Wow.

But it's happening.

Next level.

Do you remember the

on Saturday Night Live Rob Schneider character who was the busker?

But his songs.

He was a singer?

Yeah, and his songs were please give me money, I'm very hungry.

And people would give him money, and he'd be like, hey, that's just the song.

I'm just out here.

And then, wasn't he like, man in the red hat?

He would call specific people out.

This is when Rob Schneider was at the top of his.

I disagree.

I think he's getting better year by year.

You could really, if you're a celebrity that has kind of, you know, kind of gone a bit obscure in the years,

become a right mouthpiece.

And all of a sudden, you'll be back.

Dean Kane.

Who's been thinking of Dane Kane until the last couple of weeks?

Russell Brand, did it?

Oh, well, Russell Brand.

He was still in the Zeitgeist, but he was sort of, because of all the stuff.

Yeah, he went...

It just kind of came.

Because wasn't it thing that he was a hippie?

Wasn't he a hippie for a while?

He was a hippie.

He was

an atheist, and then he was

a God guy.

I would say, because I was a Russell Brand fan.

Like, when I was like 21, you know, and I was.

You seem like you'd be very susceptible.

I was so susceptible to his charms.

I was like, this guy's a dangerous rebel who's like fighting the system.

I bet he's this close to getting dreadlocked.

He's fighting the system, but his hair was kind of matte by being mean to journalists.

Like, he's so, like, he's fighting the mainstream.

Now, I'm like, oh, that woman was just trying to read the news because it was that famous clip where he's like, here, let me read the news.

And then he was like telling it like it is before that was a thing.

You know, how did he tell?

Why was he on the news?

He was like on one of those panel shows,

and then they were like interviewing him.

And then he's like, I could do your job, and then he like grabbed the mic, you know, and he was like, There's world homelessness, there's hunger.

Like, he was like, he like ripped into her.

He's like, Here's what's really going on, and the government's trying to fuck over the little man by doing that.

And I was just like, Oh my god, this is the coolest guy.

What is he selling recently?

Oh, is it like Mind Cream or something like that?

Um,

what's the one that Pete Holmes is is selling?

Oh, some kind of like brain herb for your brain.

Why are comedians now all such hucksters?

Everybody's hucksters.

Yeah, everyone's a huckster.

My problem is I searched Russell Crowe.

Oh, also a great search.

All you have to search is just bookie wook.

Oh, Russell Crowe is selling his steak in the rabbit-oes.

He's selling what?

His steak in the rabbit-o's?

What's a rabbit-oh?

I think they're an Australian rules football team.

Oh,

his share in it.

I was like, he's selling steaks.

That's what I thought, too.

No,

everyone's doing it.

Russell Brand has a magical amulet that he's selling.

I mean, I'm not interested.

It's $240.

Okay, that's pretty cheap considering it's med.

Yeah, that is pretty cheap.

Good guy.

Wynnet Paltrow's is $500.

Yeah, and it smells like her vagina.

So it should be a little bit more than that.

Everything she sells smells like her vagina.

That's how you know.

Should be more.

Yeah, Russell Brand, because he used to, his thing was his hair was all gigantic, right?

Yeah, a gigantic hair, and he's very tall.

I saw him, I actually saw him on the street.

He came to New Zealand, he did a show, and I saw him on the street, and he's very noticeable because he's like a foot taller than all us hobbits.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as tall as he could.

Like, we should Google his height, but it looked to me like he was like seven foot.

Maybe he wears like heeled boots or something.

And then he had his crazy hair.

And he had his hair ads, and he's got this sort of disheveled, like I was just, I was just a drug addict in London, but now I'm fighting the system from the inside.

I don't know.

Yeah, it sounds like it all very much appealed.

It's appealed to me so much.

And then when I saw him live, I was a little bit disappointed.

To show this picture, does this still appeal to you?

If you can see a picture of that,

2004, me?

He's got a vest.

He's holding a MTV.

I would have been in love with Popcorn Award.

Six foot one and a half.

Wow, he's not even that tall.

I felt like he was wearing platforms.

I do think that something, like, I imagine people as much taller than they are.

And I think, oh, I could never beat up Russell Brand.

But he's big on Russell Crowe.

I am getting them mixed up a lot.

Yeah, because Russell Crowe would rip the average man's head off.

At any height.

At any height.

He's just strong looking.

It's strong will.

Yeah.

Just willy you to dance.

Oh, he's a gladiator.

And

a nice guy?

Was that the movie with him and Russell Crowe?

Oh, yeah.

I liked that.

I liked it, too.

It took me a while to like that.

I think Russell Crowe is like somebody who I think was really good out of the gates, but I didn't really care about him.

And then he's grown on me over time.

And when I see something with Russell Crowe,

when was the moment that you were like, I like Russell Crowe?

There's a chance I haven't seen the movie, but Dave can jump in.

What do you want from me?

Like, with somebody like, oh, yes, that movie.

So we're not both just.

Oh, sure.

Oh, okay.

You know?

Oh,

it probably was the nice guys.

Like, he was funny.

Like, he realized, like, okay, he's a funny guy.

He's in on the joke.

But also, he wasn't too mustly anymore yeah it was him and it's him and ryan gosling okay yeah and they're like worth seeing it's from this it's a 70 it takes place in the 70s and they're like uh

detectives and they're like but they're like

uh uh bumbling yeah they're bumbling it's really good i like bumbling detectives yeah what so like we're uh we were talking upstairs about the you like you drift towards the sticking it to the man i do but i liked i liked to go back to russell crow i know you're trying to segue away from Russell Crowe.

No, no, I like to check.

Today's back.

And I think I even did a joke about this on

one of your shows recently where it was like,

I was the only person that loved Robin Hood.

And Russell did Russell Crowe actually.

Because I like Russell Crowe when he's taking himself seriously.

Yeah.

That's like, I'm like, yeah, like, but I remember watching that movie, I think I was about 20.

And because I love Robin Hood, right?

That's like one of my favorite things.

And being like, wow, this is the best movie I've ever seen.

And then the next day, seeing all the reviews, just be like, this is the biggest piece of garbage.

This was a terrible movie.

Like, Russell Coe destroyed Robin.

And I was like, I guess, I guess I just like different stuff.

Yeah.

Do you know, I don't know, like in my brain, but I think it's just because I love Robin Hood.

So seeing, like, because I love fantasy stuff and I love like, you know, medieval stuff or like historical stuff and especially like woods stuff.

So I was, I was like, oh, Robin Hood.

Like, because I grew up in the forest, I always played Robin Hood.

You know, I was like, Robin Hood.

Was there something when you were a kid?

Because I have one that I'm thinking of that.

I'm like, oh, I love this.

And I only found out later that grown-ups thought it sucked.

Oh, Ernest Saves Christmas.

Ernest hates Christmas?

Saves.

Saves Christmas.

Yeah.

No, when I was a kid, I was like, this is one of the all-time greats.

Is it a Canadian?

No, it's Ernest.

Ernest is this character, this American character who was like.

Well, he's sort of a bumbling detective.

That's your thing.

He was

a hillbilly, kind of.

Yeah, and

the gag was with him, he was in a bunch of commercials

where he would talk to the camera, and the camera was his friend named Vern.

He was always talking, hey, Vern, this is what's going on, or whatever.

And he was so popular that they put him in a movie, and that did so well that he was in several movies.

And he looked like this.

He looked like this guy.

He was wearing that.

But how did, because, like, when was this?

Was he making little clips on, putting them on the internet?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And he probably, I would say, he probably had like 10 movies that were just Ernest does this and that.

Yeah.

And you really resonated with Ernest.

Well, when he saved Christmas, and then I mean, he was, he did a similar thing with Halloween.

He got scared stupid.

For me, it was Dick Tracy.

Oh, I was like, was it that universally liked?

No.

Oh, really?

It was like...

I think it was a big

turkey.

Oh, okay.

I remember liking it.

Of Of course, because you were a little 10-year-old.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what this is.

Well, Dick Tracy was.

I'm sorry.

I love how little of these things you know.

He's sort of a, I guess, a bumbling detective.

These guys.

If you combine.

I know the Peter Sellers one where he sells.

Do we know more about himself than he did?

It's no, he's a detective, but he's like, it's from old-timey comic stories.

From like the 40s.

And then they redid it in the 90s or 1990.

And

it was a.

Madonna was in it.

Madonna was in it.

Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman.

And they're all wearing like crazy makeup because they're like old-timey comic book villains.

Warren Beatty was.

You know what Beatty?

No.

This is great.

Everything you say, I'm probably going to be like, no.

That's because you were saying when you were a kid, you grew up.

You didn't watch any TV.

There was no TV.

We didn't own a TV, but we did have a video player, they later DVD player.

And we owned a couple of movies.

We owned the Shakespeare films.

We owned, because my dad found a box set.

Okay.

And it was like when a video store was closing down, and it was like five Shakespeare's for $10 or something.

Still in the plastic.

But it's like,

there's a million Shakespeare movies.

Well, we had, so we had Othallow, Hamlet, Titus, Taming of the Shrew, and

Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet.

No, that was the only fucking one.

And that was like my favorite.

But I watched Hamlet over and over.

Is that the Kenneth Branner?

Kenneth Branner.

Okay.

I really.

Mel Gibson also did a version.

Yeah.

And no, we had that too.

That's right.

It had both Hamlet versions, Mel Gibson and Kenneth Brannagh.

But my dad was like, the Mel Gibson's one's rubbish.

Don't even bother us.

So I just like.

It's only two hours.

Yeah.

So as a kid, and also he had an American.

I tried to watch it.

Because when you're a kid and you don't have a lot of other videos around, you'll watch like whatever is there.

Oh, yeah.

So I watched that Taming of the Shrew.

It was like Elizabeth Taylor and like Richard Burton or something.

And I watched that like probably like 20 times.

Like I was like, this is the part where she says that men are better than women at the end.

You know, like it was very like this crazy kind of.

And we had The Private Life of Plants by David Attenborough.

Okay.

Which is

absolutely.

I have that memorized.

That was a banger.

Yeah.

Like The Private Life of Plants.

And we had Jane Austen's Emma.

I really wanted Pride and Prejudice, obviously, but we didn't want that.

It was just like always having the thing we didn't quite.

Is Emma clueless?

Yes.

Okay.

And was it the Gwen Peltro version that you had?

No, God, no.

It was like from like 1983 or so.

And like the guy playing the lead was like 60.

And he was like, Emma, I've known you since you were a child.

And I was like, this is normal.

Do you have any?

I need to learn how to parallel park.

Everyone has ballet.

Yeah.

Totally.

That's Emp.

But like, was that there was no like current day?

It was all classics?

I think it was all classic.

I think like, yeah, my parents, my dad was very into the classics.

And my parents, but I think as well, like, some of the movies, I don't think, because I remember when we watched Othello, I was probably six or maybe six years old.

And I think dad just thought I was just going to fall asleep on his shoulder or whatever, you know.

But then I think, because I remember it.

Like, I remember, and I remember he turned to me and the tears were just like streaming.

And he was like, oh, she was awake.

And like followed the story, you know, and I think that was like, he was like, oh, no, like, I should.

Who's in that?

And the in the Othello.

I think it's

Lawrence Fishburg.

Oh, okay, that's the one, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, it was that one, yeah.

As a kid, I didn't, like, know the actors.

Yeah, we read it in grade 10,

and I didn't do much for Mizland.

It didn't hit?

I didn't understand a word.

Yeah.

I remember I had to.

The project I handed in about Othello is I made a comic book of Othello.

That's cool.

Oh, I wonder where the hell that is.

You just don't have that.

Oh, that's my parents, maybe?

Othello was also a board game with the black and white pieces.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

I've heard it called Reversi.

How do you play Othello?

Sounds like something being newsylided Reversi.

Yeah,

everything's upside down here.

You basically, whatever side you are, like what you put down your piece, and you're either red or what you're either white or black.

And I realized later that it was probably named Othello after the play because it's because he's a black ex, yeah.

I say, the muah.

Oh, yeah.

And you,

Like it's a board with a bunch of squares, and you put a white piece down, and you try to surround a black piece, or a black piece surround a white piece, and then if you surround it, you flip it.

You flip.

Oh, and then you can.

So you try to make

all the opponent's pieces your color.

Right.

In my brain, I'm trying to think how this relates to the play.

Yeah, I don't think.

I think

the thing I think of a lot is Iago, right?

Who Kenneth Branagh played in that?

No, Gilbert Godfrey played it.

Yes, in Aladdin.

See,

I love this.

It's like that reference was in there.

Actually, I do know what you're talking about.

I did see Aladdin and it was a great film.

Yeah.

Slap.

It's fantastic.

But in my life, I'll be like, because I remember I was saying to someone, I was like talking about someone and I was like, you know, they're a bit of a Niyago.

And then from like, what are you talking?

And I was like, you know.

And they were like, oh, from Aladdin, yeah.

And I was like, okay.

Good enough.

Yeah, yes.

Now, are you,

when you were growing up, did you have other friends that also did not, like, that only had TV?

So you were one of those things.

I was a full-on loser, and I knew, like, I was aware.

I remember, like, I don't know if I started, like, just pretending stuff.

And I think, like, as a young age, people, because people would often talk about things.

And my friend who lived down the road, they watched a lot of TV.

So I, I think I saw maybe half an episode of Friends one time.

So I could kind of know Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I think I watched one episode of her place.

So I knew about stuff, but I always felt like I was like, I always felt like I was kind of pretending.

because like spice girls you had to play spice girls but of course you had to play spice but like

you had to

tell you my lover

I don't even get that reference now

but I remember just like and of course I didn't have any of the spice girls songs or albums or there was a video there was a there's a spice girls movie spice world I think was cool and but I always think it was called

you know

but just trying to kind of be like oh yeah I know I know about that, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

I know about this.

What did you, what music were you allowed to listen to?

Was it all pick runga?

It was all pick runga.

No, it wasn't so much like allowed or not allowed.

It was just more like,

I think that we had some tapes.

I just didn't have like a

Walkman until later.

I just didn't have, and I don't think I was really that into.

I think a lot of stuff I wasn't that into, but I was like, I know I have to pretend to be into it.

I never like, I was never like, when I listened to the Spice Girls, I wasn't like, oh my God, this is doing something for me, you know.

Like, but I remember being like, oh, I have to pretend that it is.

Do you know?

Like, otherwise, I'm going to be even less cool.

Yeah.

I'm already pretty down there.

I had a that was hard for me because I also had to pretend to like the spice girls.

Did you have sisters?

No.

I mean, I did, but they're older.

I pretended to like boys to men.

I remember all my friends were into boys to men.

I hated them.

Yeah, boys to men.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, it's weird that you sort of have to, you have to, though.

Yeah, no, you have to, yeah.

And the Hansons.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My friend had the hands.

Yeah, we all had to pretend to like the Hansons.

Pretend.

Yeah.

But the Hansons, because I remember my friend, because my group of friends, it was sort of me and my neighbor, and my other sort of neighbor, and there's three of us.

And there was the three Hansons, right?

Yeah.

Isaac, Taylor.

And Hanson's three.

And Zach, yeah.

And it was always like, and for those that don't know Hanson's Law, Zach was like the young, cute 13-year-old.

Yeah.

And then Taylor was like the also kind of hot keyboardist.

And then Isaac was like the weird older brother.

That's the one.

And then it would be like, you know, when you're kidding, and then like my friends would be like, okay, so like, let's play again.

I'm like, I'm Zach's girlfriend.

And then my friend would be like, and I'm Taylor's girlfriend.

And Sophia, you're Isaac's girlfriend.

And I'd be like, fuck, why do I have to be Isaac's?

Although I was the youngest.

That was probably like a 15-year-age guy.

You could be Zach's girlfriend.

I was like, I'd be better.

But Zach was the drummer.

And then I was like, well, can I at least have Taylor?

At least have Taylor.

He's the hottest one.

Yeah, I play the keyboard.

Like, you know, we could do that together.

When you play those shit.

What was the game when you were playing Being?

I don't even know.

Like, as girls, like, it's the same.

When girls play, it's just like make-believe.

And it's like, and then it's like, and we're singers too.

And we're like, and we live in wherever they live, you know, which was, I don't know, southern states if i'm not sure i feel like they were in the middle of nowhere yeah

and we love jesus and we just sing all day i don't know what um so in canada there's like a phenomenon that happens whenever there's like a big like american artist they start pushing like okay hanson's the the little

brother band well canada's got the moffets the moffets the muffetts

and then like

in in um uh canada in in the states they've got the Backstreet Boys and

In Sync.

And Canada has Before Four.

Before Four, yeah.

And Soul Decision.

You had Soul Decision.

And

the Moffetts started out as street performers.

Yeah.

There you go.

There's a direct crossroots.

Does that happen in New Zealand as well?

Was there ever...

Oh, like a New Zealand version?

Actually, I'm glad you brought this up.

There was very briefly a New Zealand boy band that they put together.

And it was, oh my God, what was it called?

And I did their music video when I was like 20 or something.

And it was like very, I don't know if you would do it now.

It was, I can't remember the name of the band, weirdly, but they were Briefly Huge.

Right.

And the song was like, Soundtrack to Summer.

And I, it's probably Briefly Huge would be a good name for a boy band.

And they were put together.

And I remember, you might even be able to find Soundtrack to Summer.

And I'm like, so what they did is they got a bunch of us girls from my agency to like dress, like they dressed us up as Amazonian women,

which is like you probably find soundtrack to summer.

It's on NZ Akiwi Summer Chill playlist by 100% Pure News.

Did you find the video?

Yeah, I'm going to try to find that.

I don't know.

But anyway, and then so I'm in it, and I'm like, and then we all just kind of like ran around this peninsula in the sun, dressed as Amazonians.

Okay.

And they, and but I remember talking to the band.

I think I showed one of them a magic trick because that was what I was into at the time.

This is

you're just an onion.

Every layer.

You're also into magic Titanium?

Yes, titanium.

Like, there should be a.

I wonder if that music video was like, it was like 2012, I think that was.

Titanium.

Wow, the album was released 7 December 2012.

Perfect.

And then the soundtrack is, I think that's it.

This is featuring Jupiter Project.

Yes, Jupiter Project did a guest collaboration.

Yeah, this is it.

That's me.

That's you, Clyde.

Six?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Listening to a radio on a tree.

Yeah.

Oh, this is exactly the type of music.

Is he in the band?

And Jupiter's.

Yeah.

That's my biggest part in it.

You're right out of the gate.

Yeah.

I can see people in New Zealand be like, oh, you're the soundtrack to Summergirl.

I don't think that ever happened to me, Sadly.

I don't know, but I don't know if they didn't recognize me out of the.

But you don't know.

There was probably somebody out there saw that video and like, you were their big crush.

You know, one can only dream.

Yeah.

One can only.

but how could they they couldn't find you you're just a nameless amazon and this

new zealanders don't didn't use instagram it's they still don't really yeah what do they have down there is it called biggle bongle something like that

yeah it's called capsicum

look me up on bingle bongle

but they're bigger bongle everyone connect they're like just send me a bonk

just just bonk me dude just bonk me with this sheet but i remember it was funny because i remember talking i don't know if i should like out titanium i don't know what's happening now.

Oh, out them.

I don't know.

I just remember like, I think I, I can't remember if it was like, I did a different music video for, I did another music video for Jupiter's

project are still together.

They're dope, like that they did the collaboration with.

Okay.

But I remember talking to one of the young guys from this boy band and he was telling me about his life and it was so funny because he was like, well, you know, how it all started was I read this book.

called The Secret.

And I was like, oh shit, I know exactly what he's talking about.

And he was like, and I just like wrote down, I was like, I want to be a lead singer in a boy band.

I want to be famous.

I want to tour here.

And he's like, and then it happened.

I mean,

and I was like, you're the only person that that's worked out for us.

Proof positive.

He asked for it, he got it.

Do you remember the

girl group they put together on the Canadian?

Oh, no, I was going to say O-Tan, but it's not.

O-Tan was the American one.

But it was

Sugar Joe's.

Sugar Joe's, yes.

They were, yeah,

they maybe had a hit.

They had days like that.

Days like that.

That's right.

And they were, they were, it was making the band.

I remember when days were like that.

You were loving me in return.

I love back.

And now you tell me that you missed that, that you feel lonely.

But it's like that.

And one of them was married to Remy Shand.

And Remy Shand is?

No idea.

He's a Canadian singer on Motown.

And how did that go?

Take a message for my love.

Take a message.

I like how whenever I ask you to do it.

I like how Dave doesn't even hesitate.

I'll be like, how did that go?

And it's like

the melody is like.

It's because I'm wearing headphones and I get to put my hand against my ear and go, take a message.

But you don't even say um and think about it.

It's ready.

In the music video, Remy Shand played, well, because I guess he played all the instruments on the album.

So he's like his whole band and he's he's like pointing to oh he's playing his own band where he's he's the keyboardist and the bass player because he wearing like a funny hat to differentiate yeah yeah that's funny because that was uh uh what's his name andre 3000 didn't you have a video where he's a bunch of guys in the video yeah you know andre 3000 you know hey yeah you know hey

oh yes yeah that's him but i do remember when surge tanking and split from system of the down which is my favorite band so sad when that happens and then system of the down is my old-time favorite band and then when Surge Tankian split, it was like good and bad because it was bad because the band was broken up.

Good because he moved to New Zealand, Piha Beach, which was quite close to me.

Did you see him?

Was he as tall as Russell Brand?

Way shorter.

He was only six.

No, that's actually one of my huge life.

Because I remember when I was on the soap, some guys were like, oh, we partied with Surge Tankian this week.

They were like, we went out to Piha, which is where he lived, and we ran into him.

And then I was like, take me next time.

I was like, because I was such a surge, like, because when I was 11, toxicity came.

And I remember I had, I met, I taped my brother's C D of toxicity onto a tape and put on my Walkman.

And I would just walk around the island I was on and be like, Wake up!

Wake up!

Wake up!

Hi, this guy's gonna fight away with the shake up!

Why did you leave the keys up on the table?

You wanted to!

Just like angsting, like thinking about my crush.

He was like, Who was such a rebel?

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

What did your crush do that was?

Oh,

this is really odding myself.

I'm like, New Zealand's going to find me.

You told us about titanium.

I did.

No,

my crush, because so school speeches at my school were like crazy.

What are school speeches?

You know, when you like, did you not have, like, once a year, there's a speech competition?

No.

Some.

I mean,

I know that, like, people are in clubs for that, but like, there's not like a, it's not like a big thing.

Oh, okay.

So, like, at our school, every year there's a speech competition.

And I think, like, it's just like.

Is it like a debate or is it just like a bad thing?

No, like you do like a five, seven-minute speech, and it can be about anything.

And, like, I remember my brother did like revolutions.

You know what?

We did do that.

Yeah.

In elementary school, we did it in French.

Concord d'art oratoire.

We didn't have, we didn't have this.

You didn't have this?

No.

We learned square dancing in my school.

That was fine for us.

Yeah.

That you squared.

But you made this, you made the speech contest.

And the whole, for the finals, the the whole school got to go.

Because it was like, I guess you'd call like seniors.

Because my school also, because it was a small place, like when you're 11, you're basically in high school.

So it's like 11 right up to 17.

That's why kids are getting high and 13.

Yeah, because they're like, we've already done, we've already seen this.

But I remember there was a speech, speech competition.

And it was like, I was 11, I got to watch it.

And the finalists, they were all, you know, older, I think.

And then I remember one of the guys, like during the speech, like the end of us, he did a speech that was like really cool.

Like he went like crazy and like and then at the end like what does that mean well because he started out i still remember the speech he started he came on stage and he like pretended to be really nervous oh you know

yeah but then he like ripped off the mask and was like i don't give a shit you know and i was like holy what a prank yeah you know like but our speech has gotten i was like i remember one like one chick got up who i love i love her so much like she was an amazing singer but she got up and she was like i was assaulted and she like talked about it when she was like 14 like she like people would like speeches, were like crazy.

But I remember this guy at the end of a speech, he ripped off his shirt, so he was shirtless.

And then this is your crash,

yeah.

Well, after this, yeah, and then he just said, If I fuck me, I fuck me my way.

And then he like stored.

You don't allow to do this at school?

Well, no, but then, so then the teachers were like, You're disqualified, and he was like, Good, like,

and I was like, I didn't really know him, but I just remember being like, That guy's so cool, yeah.

And later on, we became friends, so it it really worked.

And then, anyway, there's a whole story.

But

I got to like kind of date my crush.

Oh,

later on in life.

Yeah, sure.

I remember they did at my school, we had like a history presentation at the end of the year, and everyone's just pretty boring except these two guys.

Oh, you've told me about that.

Yeah, these two guys seemed to like, they brought back these people from history.

Yeah.

What?

And they like Socrates came and

really the kid was certainly there.

Mozart actually had just been arrested at the mall.

What?

And I'm sorry, it was Beethoven.

I love that this.

Like, we're doing a thing from a movie, and you are completely on another planet.

I don't know what you guys are talking about.

There was a movie called Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

This has been a theme of the show.

Yeah.

I feel like since I told you guys that I didn't watch a lot of movies grow up, you guys have leaned harder into that.

To be like, how many times can we baffle and befuddle our guests and i'm just here like should i have told them about my crush no

i believe that bickrunga song gets played in uh american pie when i want to say yes it does when me souvari and don't whoever she's uh don't oh okay

losing her they're all losing their virginity yeah yeah that's true yeah because they're in a boathouse or something and everyone would sing bickrunger at school they're at stiffler's mom's house oh when she loses when me and a Savari, I thought they were in like a boat, some sort of wooden house.

Well, Stiffler's mom's there.

No,

she oversaw it all.

I don't think I've seen it, but I know the Bick Ranger was in it.

Yeah.

That's what I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so good for us.

Yeah, yeah.

But she got it.

But people would sing Drive at El School, which was a Bick Runga song.

Oh, okay.

And everyone would play that at like assembly.

Like, girls would, and they would, like, kill it.

Now, the kids are probably doing Lord.

They're probably doing so much Lord.

That's so sweet.

You got to date your crush.

Yeah, like much later on, I'd like to

finish.

Yeah, Dave.

Did your high school crush?

No.

Oh, yeah.

But college.

Not yet.

Not that far.

I've had a high hit rate, actually, with my crush.

After that, I had a crush that I remember I met him at one night.

He was like,

this is obviously my type at the time.

He was like,

you know, like vandalizing street signs.

Oh, boy, he went for the bad boy.

I was like, he's so cool.

Like, if only one day he would notice me.

And then I dated him for two years later on.

Oh, yeah.

I was a little bit older.

Yeah.

Wow.

I have a very high, like, but well, you know, you're like good looking, right?

Like,

the people I'm attracted to seem to want to date me.

No, but I wasn't.

Like, I was nerdy.

I don't know.

You're not, according to that episode.

To titanium.

That was older.

That was older.

But no, I was like,

with that crush, that was like a full dream come true.

Like, I was like, I I can't believe this.

He's vandalizing my house now.

Yeah.

She comes over and vandalizes the fridge.

It's so cool.

She's like, yes.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That's what you like when you're a teenager.

You're like a rebel, you know?

Yeah, you do.

You're like, we got to fight this system.

But it's funny, like, talking to other comics about it, I love the image.

I still haven't kind of been able to write like the best joke about it yet.

But there's something about like, you know, when you're punks and you, you know, you, but then you're on the beach in like a subtropical island you know and you're in like your boots and your black jeans and you're like fuck this just staring at like the sunset yeah yeah

and you're like just the government's trying to keep me down

they should stop it

put one dread on the dollar bill

decapitalize

We're going to protest this weekend.

We need everyone on like that.

Yeah.

Wow.

Dave, Dave, what's going on with you, my friend?

Well, this weekend, I'm going to talk about something that you may never have heard of.

Chances are.

My parents a couple weeks ago were like, hey, we'd like to take a few of the grandkids and whoever else wants to come to see the Lion King musical.

I've heard of it.

Have you seen the Lion King movie?

Yes.

Okay.

I watched it quite recently.

I have not.

Oh.

Well, then you've never seen it?

I've never seen it.

Speaking of Hamlet,

absolutely.

If you say so.

I've seen the

remake they did with the live action that wasn't live action because it's all computers.

And I've seen bits of the original, but I've never seen the play before.

Was it good?

Well, let me tell you.

Sorry.

Sorry.

It is.

So

I know the songs, the big four songs from

Circle of Life.

Circle of Life.

Circle of Life for Bree.

Can You Feel the Love Tonight?

And

Hakuna with Hakanama.

And I Just Can't Wait to be King.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, bangers.

I like how you were like quizzing.

Yeah.

Well, Graham loves it.

I love it.

I was like, you knew you were like, I got another five songs.

Years and years ago, we talked

with Charlie DeMares.

He and I were remembering enjoying The Lion King.

We thought that we were much younger when we saw it and then we found out that we were both in our teens.

What year did it come out?

94 I think.

I hadn't quite reached my punk stage yet.

You'll get there.

You got to start.

94.

Yeah, yeah.

So we went and

Yeah, both my daughters, a couple of my nieces,

a niece, a nephew, and my father all went.

And

we were, um we we sat down it's going to the theater is like there's so many heads to look around yeah and you're quite tall as well like it's hard you're a russell brand

if you did your hair all crazy

if i had some platform booth

um but uh yeah we went and so like i'm like you know we're waiting for everyone to sit down and

all the people around us so we can switch seats so the kids can see pick their best way to see

And then it starts.

And, like, I've heard about it.

I've seen like pictures of it, but like, there's masks and people on stilts and puppets, and

it opens, and there's like an elephant comes out on stage, and it's just this puppet elephant, and it's huge, and all these other animals, zebras, and it's incredible.

The first five minutes, it's great.

They hold up baby Simba, yeah, and then

they play the circle of life.

And then there's a lot of filler.

There's those four songs, and then there's two hours of not those four songs.

I think they tour together for a long time because I've heard stories of people that were in the cast for like 10 years.

Like that was their life being a lemur.

You know, it was

huge.

It was like probably the biggest musical of the 2000s, maybe.

And the guy who originated the role of Rafiki in the Broadway musical musical is just retiring like a month from now.

He's done the show 9,000 times.

Oh, my God.

Whoa.

Yeah, because,

like you say, it was in the like aughts or something.

Well, they do stuff like at a friend, like they would like pass a sausage or whatever.

Like, see, do you know what I mean by that?

Yeah, I try to play pass the sausage, but my wife's never in the mood.

Like,

you know, where they'll have a sausage and the cast members will try and pass it to each other during the musical where no audience sees it.

Well, that's fine.

Because they've just done it so much that they were like, they got to come up with like fun games.

Like, they can just sing whatever those song names were.

Yeah.

But I'm worried I'm going to say it wrong.

Aku Namatata.

Yeah, there you go.

Nail it.

Nail it.

But I bet you could tell me every lyric from Toxicity.

I could.

Which song do you want?

Psycho is my favorite.

Go on.

Psycho, groupie, cocaine, crazy.

But I didn't know what a groupie was when I was a kid.

So I was like, man, these groupies are crazy.

Really want to be like, do you think they're like grouper fish or something like that?

I don't know, but I saw Sisma Vadown a couple times live.

And like, the first time I just wept.

I was like, this is the best thing I've ever seen.

Yeah.

And then when Surge split, he and he came up with that Elect the Dead album.

Do you remember?

And he had like, and then he played with the New Zealand Philharmonic Orchestra at like the town hall.

Oh, wow.

And I was so excited.

I remember I was working.

I had moved out of home and I was working at a law firm as like a clerk.

And it was like, I didn't have much money, but I was like, I have to get tickets to this.

And there was this guy that I thought was that I liked mainly because he liked System of the Down, yeah.

He was this British guy, and I was like, Oh, kind of a rebel a little bit.

He actually wasn't, but like, I was getting older at this point, I was 17.

I was like, I was growing up, okay.

Um, but I was like, Oh, um,

do you want to come to System of the Down with me?

And he was like, Yeah, I'd love to, you know, because he's British, you know, yeah.

And I bought us tickets, and then I mean, obviously, he gave me the money for his ticket, and then we went and watched at the town hall.

But it was so funny because the town halls, I'm trying to think of what the

thing in Vancouver, like quite a fancy where they play orchestral.

The Orpheum, maybe.

Yeah, like it was kind of crazy.

Queen Elizabeth.

Yes, but then you've got like Surge Tanking there.

So there was like people trying to mosh

in the like bottom stalls.

You know, like not in the like on the ground part in the orchestra pit or what?

I don't know, I don't know, that part in the front.

And the mosh pit.

Yeah, the mosh pit.

So they were like trying to like get something going.

And then there was like people sitting up in the God, my theater terminology is not good.

I love the idea of a cellist like jumping off the stage and getting carried around.

But I was like up in the up in the upstairs part, and then I just remember just like crying because it was so good.

And then the date.

I think you're pretty emotional.

I guess so.

I'm crying a lot of stuff.

Only it's just with a down concert.

And Othello.

Oh, yeah, but that's so sad.

And then if I remember like date, Turbo was like, you're right then.

Like, I think he thought something was actually wrong because I was just like, it's so good.

Yeah.

But

it's just,

I don't know.

But anyway,

it was a matinee.

Yeah.

Yeah, back to the all kids.

Oh, yeah, of course.

My dad had never seen it and didn't know it.

And so he asked his friend, hey,

you know theater, right?

Do you think The Lion King would be appropriate for children?

Absolutely not.

And so,

but yeah, it was two and a half hours long.

That is long.

We were just far enough away that like

when there was big stuff happening on stage, it was great.

Yeah.

But when there wasn't big stuff happening on stage, it was like, what is, what's the point?

And, like, at intermission, we went through the program and there's, there's three different kids who play Young Simba

at different performances.

But so we wanted to know which of the three kids we were seeing.

And they all have their Instagram pages.

They're bingle bongle

in the program.

And so we looked them up.

And from where we were sitting, we looked at three different Instagram pages and we couldn't tell which was the kid we were seeing.

Oh, they all looked so similar?

We just couldn't make them.

We just couldn't make out the face.

They all and like

is everybody in it in a mask or a puppet or when he's a young simba, he doesn't have a mask.

He's just a guy.

He's just a guy.

Right.

And then there's like a Timon and Pumba.

Yes.

They are like big puppets that are like a lot of it is sort of

taking the Disney movie and making it more theatrical and making it sort of like symbolic and like a little bit more like kind of African looking lionheads.

But Timon and Pumba are like

Disney characters that they just have in suits.

Why not?

They have to be because they're funny.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then they throw in a few local references.

Oh, I love that.

Well, like each place they go to?

I guess so.

But they've been here for a few weeks.

We're lost.

What is this?

Kitsilano?

Yay!

It was...

Exactly, right?

The

curtain comes down and one of them goes, looks like a curtain from Cana, a shower curtain from Canadian tire.

It's pretty good.

And then someone said they were hungry.

Yeah, but not for Timbits.

It's like they just Googled Canada.

It's the thing is, is...

that it works.

Yeah.

I went and saw the comedian Chris Fleming.

You know, Chris Fleming.

Oh, hard to see him.

And he

would throw in a local reference, not even as a punchline, and the crowd was, ah, every time.

So it works.

It's a foolproof.

You can tell.

Who was talking?

Who was I talking to recently that was from out of town?

And they could tell, they didn't get any of the local references, but they could tell.

Oh,

someone went to a show at Little Mountain Gallery who's from out of town.

And they could tell that these are local references because they would get a big reaction, but they didn't understand them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's, and I try to do that when I would go to a small town.

I would try and drop a local reference.

Never worked.

Yeah.

Never worked once.

Really?

It never worked for you?

No.

It's because you're phony.

Yeah.

It's because I think a part of you, like, was a part of you being like, I'm such a hack as you were telling it.

Oh, that's every time I go on stage.

That's how my pep talks to myself.

No, but I feel like because you're like good comedian, not to like flatter you on that, but

you're such a good comedian that I think if your brain and a good person

come on you guys

like you're such a good writer and you're so glad I think if you were doing something that was just cheap love I think your brain would be like stop it you know like well then it's the other you know I would if I went to a small town I learned this from a documentary about Bruce Valent okay he would go to town he would read the local paper he would write yeah full like 20 minute chunk just based on the town

of coffee

Yeah.

And, like,

the town people have to know, they have to have read that newspaper, too.

So, if you're talking about some local thing and people are like, we don't.

Yeah, we're illiterate.

I used to have a bit

when I did stand up, a Canadian or Tim Horton's bit, and I, it was so hacky, I hated it, but it killed every time.

And if I'm not doing well, you need it, you grab it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've got stuff that I grab if I need, but if I was like showcasing, I wouldn't be like, hey,

I would.

Anyway, Lion King, check it out.

Yeah.

It's here for like weeks, right?

I think it's almost done.

Okay.

That's why we were like, you know, my, my dad said, hey, if, if we could get tickets, would you and the kids want to go?

Yeah, sure.

I totally forgot about it.

Oh, shit.

Also, when you get the tickets, it like he bought the tickets online.

It was sold out, I guess, so you had to buy it through a third party.

Yeah.

But it's officially through Ticketmaster.

It's so confusing.

And then they send you the ticket

on email.

You click on it.

It says, use your phone.

I don't know how they expect old people to be able to go anywhere.

I needed to download two separate apps to get it.

Like the Ticketmaster app itself doesn't work because it's

there's a separate one just for theater.

You need an app now for every single thing.

It's like you need an app for everything.

Yeah, every single thing.

It's like you're traveling, get the bus app.

I don't like it.

Actually, I do have

it.

It used to be you could.

That's on my list, though.

I'm still using the card.

But now they won't even.

The transit app is amazing.

Or the radar app?

No, it's just called transit.

Just so it'll, it'll tell you what time your bus is actually coming if it's delayed.

The radar app does that.

Okay, it's called radar.

But

they used to just email you.

Like, you can print out your ticket, you can load it onto your phone.

But now it's like, have you seen when there, there's like a

barcode that's like moving?

Yep, and you can't print that out.

No, and I was adding it.

Moving barcodes?

Yeah, it's like it usually shows like a picture of the thing that you're seeing, and it has this barcode that's moving around.

I've never seen a moving barcode.

Wow.

I gotta add that to all my movie list.

There was, I did a show this past Sunday, and a woman had bought fake tickets

for the show.

And it's not like it was an expensive show, but she bought them on like StubHub or whatever, but they were fake.

And she had it printed out.

And the guy who's running it is like, I really don't know what to do here.

Like, this is unheard of.

So he let her in.

Where was this?

This was at the Hollywood Theater.

Oh.

It's great.

Great place to do a show.

What did you see there?

You were doing a show.

I was doing a show.

Oh.

Yeah.

But I felt

we all felt bad for this one, but it was like, but these tickets were easy to.

Why would you go on StubHub?

Why wouldn't you just

original?

Like, I find when you buy things from the StubHub or SeatGeek or whatever, they send you to the official place.

Like, you get sent an official thing.

Yeah.

Weird.

Anyway.

Maybe she just fight those tickets and was like, whoop.

Yeah.

So funny.

Well, yeah.

And he, like, the guy who runs it, Aaron, who always puts on a fan, was Joker's Canada, right?

Jokers Canada.

Shout out.

Such a good show.

Such a good show.

And he, but he was completely like, what do, how do I avoid this in the future?

And I was like, I guess you don't.

Like, I guess this is just what are you going to do as a guy that's booking the show?

You cannot let them in.

Oh, yeah.

I guess some, there's like things that are like event bright or whatever or like

tickets tonight.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, say what you will with Ticketmaster.

They run a tight ship.

That's true.

Yeah, your show pass, etc.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember years and years ago, do you know Doug Stanhope?

Yes.

He was

Road Dog.

Is that.

No, I don't know that.

I only know Ernest.

What?

You guys haven't seen Road Dog?

Oh, I can't believe it.

There we go.

Where have you guys even been?

Do you even watch comedies?

What the hell my mind is blown you should have seen the gesturing shoes

all over the place

way too big for the camera luckily we're not lucky this is just radio because these are gestures for radio babe um your director would have been like you he would have been like sophia

how could you

i will one day play thorin no he didn't play thorin um who did he play Who's Thorin?

Let me look it up.

Let me look up his thin.

Oh, this was before the...

Hobbit.

This was before The Hobbit, though.

Yeah.

He had not yet been in The Hobbit.

No, this was when he was directing.

From director to the Hobbit.

He played

Oin too.

He played what?

Oin.

So you know how there's Oin and Gloyne?

No, but spell Oin for like O-I-N.

Okay.

Oin.

So like this is like, this is the guy.

Well, he's pictured here with Gloyne.

Okay.

Also pictured.

Do you know how in The Hobbit they do, like when in the book, they're like, what's oin and gloin?

Hey, by the way.

Alien Kiwi.

No, I don't know anything about the Hobbit.

This guy, yeah, that looks like he's in the right movie.

Yeah, right.

I almost got kicked in the Gloin.

Anyway, Doug Stanhope.

Yeah, he so Road Dog is a film recently, and Doug Stanhope plays the lead.

It was a came out like last year, and it's just like a sad old Road Dog comic who's like trying to get sober, and that's like the whole movie.

It's kind of the character he played in Louis.

It's like, I think they base it around that almost.

Like, it's kind of that.

Now, you brought up Doug Stanhope for a reason?

Oh, because he was, when Brown Paper Tickets came out, he was like, he was affiliated with them and they weren't a great ticket service.

Yeah.

They tried.

They tried.

I don't know brown paper tickets, but I'm going to stop.

pointing out what I don't know and just laugh along.

I'm at the brown paper tickets?

It's just one of these.

Yeah, one of these things that's not Ticketmaster where you're like, hey, that's good.

Yeah, I'm glad you put this on Eventbrite.

Yeah.

And then,

you know, you get ripped off, right?

They got no protections at Eventbrite, you know?

Well,

I don't know, man.

That was Joe Biden's, like, one of Joe Biden's big things,

which he needed more big things.

He was, he didn't like fees in tickets.

Yeah.

That was like his big, like, like shrinkflation was one of his big things.

And like, but the more I thought about it, I was like, Joe Biden's right, but I think he needs to pick a different issue to like champion his campaign but he was like he was like they're putting hidden fees in tickets and we've got to stop it it is true I bought some tickets from Ticketmaster and I can't go so I sold

one of them I sold my ticket and it's very weird because it's like they tell you like you resell it through Ticketmaster and they tell you here's what people are selling them for yeah and I'm like I'll go a little lower yes so someone will buy mine first marketplace no through ticket master oh through ticket master okay and then but then they're like okay you're selling it for uh

for 84 so you will get 71 and then i went and looked it up and the person buying it is paying a hundred dollars whoa on this 85 ticket wow that's worse than biden even said yeah like i know that's crazy but he uh he really he ate a mean ice cream cone that joe biden he wore some cool sunglasses gave a great massage

he's He's a cool guy.

Yeah,

he was a cool guy.

Probably the coolest president.

I mean,

he wasn't a bad ombre like his friend Scorpio or whatever, Slurp Dog.

He was lost.

Was it like

Corn Pop?

Corn Pop.

He told a story to the press about when he was a kid and there was a kid in a rival gang named Cornpop.

And like, he just told this rambling, like, the oldest man, old story.

And the press was just, like, helpless.

They couldn't interrupt and he we loved the

corn pop we love corn pop don't we folks um so that's what's going on with me i saw the lion king pretty cool it's pretty cool like the first five minutes the last five minutes incredible there's a few other great puppet things that happen in the middle there's like they do some cool chases with like shadow puppets oh fun and then um but yeah those there there's like

In the program, it says songs by Elton John and Tim Rice.

Additional songs by a bunch of people I haven't heard of and Hans Zimmer.

Oh, really?

None of those additional songs hit with me.

Yeah.

Was it you had an intermesh?

Intermesh and sold out.

Like

of course.

Just, I mean, so much more expensive than a movie.

And I go to movies all the time and they're never sold out.

And I enjoy them more.

Yeah, yeah, that's true, man.

But you get to be part of live art.

Yeah.

Yeah, people playing pasta sausage on stage.

I can see it.

I could see it several times on sausage.

Yeah, look for it, guys.

Look for it.

What's going on with you?

Well,

we're in September now.

The leaves are starting to turn a little bit.

I've seen some leaves that have turned yellow already.

You're like looking at us like,

you guys, are you going to change colours?

I have seen some leaves changing color.

I've even seen some red ones.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's like, it's on the way.

No brown yet, but

can't be too far behind.

And so I realized yesterday that my shot at eating another summer peach.

Gone.

Really?

It's over for the year.

There's not going to be.

You don't think there's one scraggly peach?

I don't want to eat a scraggly peach.

We had two.

This has been a great summer for

fur fruit for me personally.

Yeah, no, it is.

Because last year, there was no peaches because the weather conditions were so dry and they didn't have to be.

And the figs got the figs, there was no figs.

There were no figs, yeah.

And like this.

A big fig fan.

Do you love a good fig?

Yeah.

That seems like a New Zealand fan.

Just some figs for me, please.

Just a plate of figs for me.

But I knew.

No outside figs.

Watch.

Oh, at the play, there was someone trying to bring it.

Like, I snuck in some snacks for my kids.

Nice.

And I was like, we have to be sneaky.

but they you know they won't care and the person in front of us had a Starbucks coffee and they're like you have to drink that right now okay

it was like an old lady oh come on let the old lady in with her drink I know um

peaches peaches and I last night I had the the last of the the delicious ear of corn it's corn season also closing up shop i think you're i mean i think there might be some some more time we might have a couple weeks to get, you know, you shop around, you'll get a couple good peaches.

Yeah, I really hope so.

Because

we had two left that I just didn't touch for like five days.

Me too.

And they were on my counter.

I find my problem is I'll buy a piece of fruit like a mango or a peach.

And I'm like, it's a little hard.

But I'll buy it now.

It'll be soft in a couple days at home.

And it never gets soft.

It just gets wrinkly.

Like your skin just gets.

So I have a fix for this, but you may already know.

Okay.

I don't.

Well, you want to put your if you want to ripen your counter fruit, like an avocado or something, you want to put it in with a banana because the bananas let out enzymes that ripen other fruit.

So I put my avocados.

Like sometimes I buy bananas just to ripen my other stuff and I don't necessarily get through them.

And then I got to like put them in the freezer, but it works.

Like my avocados, they get perfect.

Like you just want to put, like, if it's like still a little hard, you just want to put it in with a bunch of bananas for like a day or two.

Sorry, did you say in a bag or just on the counter?

Like just in the fruit bowl.

You just got to have some some bananas?

Avocado, avocado.

How do we say it?

Avocado.

You guys say avocado.

I say avocado.

But I'm trying to think.

I think we say avocado.

What?

I think in America they say avocado.

Oh, I've learned the American pronunciation.

And then they, but they ripen.

Like, they take a while sometimes, but they always get there.

Yeah.

But these peaches will just like...

Just started to shrivel.

Yeah, they'll get saggy skin before they get soft.

We bought like a huge tray of them from Costco.

costco had these delicious delicious peaches and uh you had to eat them fast because they all kind of ripen at the same time no worries yeah yeah two peaches a day no problem have you eaten over the sink

you know it have you ever eaten too much fruit and had like an issue yes

possibly last week

and do we all know what the issue was no there's different ones yeah like you can break out and hives and shit

then i went to my friend she had a bag of plums because like, in plum season on the Ionography, there was always plum trees.

And we'd just like walk home from the beach with bags and pick them all.

Yeah.

And then she's like, dude, I messed up.

I ate that whole bag of plums.

Now I've breakened out on a rat.

You know, it was my friend Lily, the one that got caught smoking wheat.

I uh, I remember bad kid, bad seed, that Lily.

I remember one weekend in high school in December, my dad had bought a uh, a big box of mandarin oranges

and a

dozen uh sesame bagels and

the toilet was just

i'll never forget it

yeah when i was a kid my brothers and i would eat crab apples because we had like a tree that had crab apples all right that's not yummy uh no but they like one of these no they're super sour but we're like

give me another one yeah but there's only there's a certain point the body can only handle so many crab apples before things really turn themselves inside and also aren't you allergic to apples?

I found that out as an adult, sure.

But so will you.

Are they all a little sour and spicy?

Yeah,

because I've had some good crab apples to grow that.

Oh, sure.

I mean, hey, look, they were great.

Very rich childhood.

In our backyard, we have kale.

Yep.

That really did great this year.

And we had

raspberries.

And the raspberries did great in the spring and kind of by the time the end of June, there were no more raspberries.

And then today, I'm looking at the raspberry bush, two new raspberries.

Two September raspberries.

September is still here.

The summer's still here.

Yeah, I won't.

You're right.

There's still two raspberries clinging.

But they're new.

They're clinging to next guy.

They're not old ones that like survive the summer.

They just, this is new growth.

Yeah.

It's not all over.

But yeah, like, you know what?

Just treat every peach like it's your last peach.

Did you get those doughnut peaches?

No, not this year, but I do love that.

They're shaped like a donut.

They're like,

and round.

Like, they don't have a hole in them, but they.

Where do you get them from?

But they kind of have an indentation.

Yeah, they go to the bottom of the cell.

Does someone read a peach with a donut?

Yeah, of some cup.

Like these.

They look like that.

Whoa.

Yeah, they do look like donuts.

And they're delicious.

Don't get me wrong.

But

just being

normal, you know, interior of BC peaches.

I've been having so much watermelon this summer.

Oh my god.

I never really cared about watermelon in the past.

I'm a cantaloupe guy.

You know this.

Oh, yeah.

I love cantaloupe.

Do you generally like drier fruit?

Drier fruit?

I find some people obsessed with wetter fruits.

Like they're like they want the watermelons, but then

if you link cantaloupe.

No.

I don't think wetness is a consideration.

I just never thought that

they were that like sweet.

They just like were they were more wet than they were sweet and they've been so sweet.

Yeah.

But

did you,

how many watermelons do you think you ate?

No, maybe like

two giant, two full ones.

I buy them in the quarter cut.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, having a big giant watermelon at home.

In the fridge, yeah.

It's again, it's a race against the clock.

And you don't want to waste it.

No, you don't.

Well, I eat it fast because it takes up so much room in the fridge.

True.

So maybe I had three full ones.

Nice.

Ages and ages ago, I had an overheard on the podcast where it was a family

standing around.

It was at an intersection, and they were standing around a watermelon that had been smashed on the ground.

And the dad saying to the family, It was the last one.

So sad.

That's such a good overheard.

Yeah.

There's the last one.

There's a video of a woman who grew a watermelon in her yard and she's doing like the reveal

and

this is my we're we're growing watermelon this year and she brings it up on the counter she's got a giant knife let's see how it looks inside oh i hope it's ready and she cuts it open and it's a pumpkin

and she's about four months too early

wow

this watermelon

look on her face she's like

so heartbroken yeah well I would be too.

Me too.

But it's pumpkin spice latte season.

Go get them.

Oh, yeah.

Is that already started?

Started in late August.

Do you guys drink pumpkin spice lattes?

I mean, I'll try.

I'll sample one a year.

Kind of, I have like a dip-ito and that, dip-ito, and eggnog.

I love pumpkin flavors.

Just to feel festive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Just get a hit.

That's all I need.

I love pumpkin pie.

I like,

I make a pumpkin bread that I really like, but I don't do the pumpkin spice latte.

And I don't do like,

oh, they they did a pumpkin pie blizzard at Dairy Queen oh yeah

just too gooey too yeah I need some pumpkin pie

yeah but it didn't have oh that was at Rain or Shine they had one that was pumpkin pie and had pieces of crust well now they have a mango peach one that has mango peach pie one that has crust god damn it um well I can't have it I can't have it you can't have most things yeah that's why can't you have that gluten oh because of the pie pieces

I think about Graham's diet quite often I'll be honest like Graham couldn't eat any of the

stuff.

I forget a lot.

And growing all the time.

You know, always new ones.

Yeah.

A growing list of allergens.

Exactly.

And I watched the other thing is I watched a movie last night after I ate the last, what I assume, Cob of Corn of the Summer.

And I don't know if you ever do this where you see a movie and within the first shot, you're like, that was shot in Vancouver.

Oh, yeah.

It was literally, it was a movie.

Was it the Gabby's Dollhouse movie?

What is that?

It's this kids show called Gabby's Dollhouse They made a movie of it where they go to Cat Francisco and they got like shots of San Francisco

But then the like you literally see a bus that says Upper Lonsdale on it

That was yeah, it was old movie from maybe the aughts Renee Zellwiger and Bradley Cooper sizzle on screen together in a movie called Case 39.

I would probably quite like this.

Well, you wouldn't because it's terrible.

But it was very, very bad.

Especially it does, being in Vancouver, though, it does kind of hold your interest a little bit.

Yeah, no, the first scene, like when they showed the house she lived in, I was like, that's a Vancouver-style house.

And then the next scene, you could see a banner for Vancouver Art Gallery.

But the big tip-off was it was supposed to be set in Oregon.

I was like, that's Vancouver for sure.

If it's set in Seattle, Oregon, that's Vancouver time.

So it was fun.

It was fun to see all the different places and guess where you'd stop watching the following the plot and you were just like oh yeah

it's one of the things like

where the description of the movie is the whole movie and so the twist is given away in the description so you're just sitting there like when are they gonna figure out yeah that the kid's the devil like what's gonna do

I mean I figured it out kind of in the first like two or three minutes of the movie.

Is it a scary movie?

Yeah, it's supposed to be spooky.

Case 39 doesn't sound scary.

Well, she's she's a social worker, and this is Case 39.

She ends up taking home a girl with the parents tried to kill her because she was the devil.

Turns out she's actually the devil.

See, the thing is,

in real life, it would take you a long time to figure that out.

Absolutely.

Yeah, you wouldn't just like a kid wouldn't be being aware and be like, that's the devil.

Like, even if a kid frosted the mouth a little, you'd be like, oh, take them to the doctor.

You know, you wouldn't be like, devil, you know, unless you were.

Well, at one point, she tells Renee Zelwiger that got she's got to do everything that she asks uh and the things that she wants to do as a kid she's eats a giant bowl of popcorn and watches an obtrice video

obtrice is a friend of eminem yeah okay good idea

i didn't hear that um but it just seems so random that it was obtrice of all oh i love when they have like well clearly the parent company of this

film studio what they can show is also the parent company of this record company.

So it was very, it was very dumb, but it was really fun to see all the Vancouver locations.

If there's a companion.

Did you watch the whole thing?

Did you watch Right to the End?

Oh, yeah.

You were in it.

You were like, okay.

Yeah.

She ends up in a dock, I think.

Like, I might see Main Street if I just wait.

Did I see Main Street?

We definitely saw downtown.

We saw the art gallery posed as a law court.

Saw.

Well, the art gallery used to be the law courts.

Oh, yeah.

And there was a little jail in there, too, wasn't there?

Oh, maybe.

There's like an old door on the

west side of it that I think was where they like kept people who were going on trial.

The trivia.

Yeah.

Oh, I mean, sure.

Look, you guys were fascinated by it.

Yeah.

But if there's a compendium out there of things that were shot in Vancouver, I'd love to see it.

I'd love to watch all the movies that are shot in Vancouver.

When did I, oh, we watched a couple years ago, we watched some

one of those like Morgan Freeman, Ashley Judd movies.

Oh, sure.

That's Keep the Secret.

There's the girls.

Yeah.

There goes my girl.

And that was a real snooze, but, oh, hey,

they're in Trodden.

Yeah, like the Arnold Schwarzenegger one called...

The 13th Day?

No.

Yes.

Is that the one at the library?

Yeah.

Is it called the 13th Day?

Yeah.

That sounds right.

I don't know any of these.

You know what I'm forcing.

I do know him.

I do know him.

I watched Terminator as a kid.

The 13th Day is not

that

movie.

Oh, what was it?

It's not the 13th Warrior, but The 13th Warrior.

The 13th Warrior.

I've seen that.

Was that shot here?

There's no way.

That's like a medieval thing, isn't it?

What I'm thinking of.

Yeah, but where did they shoot it?

That was great.

I remember watching that as a kid and loving it.

13th Warrior.

Who's in that?

Is that Antonio Banderas now?

Yes, I think it is.

Yes.

Yes.

And he's like wandering around and he's like, there is one prophet and his name is Muhammad.

Like, I don't, that's all I really remember.

But I remember being like, this is good.

That is good.

I like nights.

They shot it.

They shot it on Vancouver Island.

Oh.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what?

Medieval.

I am very excited about this trip.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

See?

Yeah.

Arnold.

If it's a medieval film, I've watched it.

Oh, yeah?

I watched William Tell the other night, which I hadn't seen.

I don't know how that slipped under my net.

Which one's William Tell?

Who's in that?

I don't actually know anything about it.

The Sixth Day.

The Sixth Day, yes.

And the

Vancouver Library was like.

That's less than half of the third day.

I know.

Come on, guys.

You're supposed to know movies.

I know.

That's why people come on the show.

So they can know movies at them.

Everybody,

enjoy Ivory Peach and every Era Corner.

Check out Case 39.

Yeah, check out any Vancouver movies you can.

Check out The Crush starring Carrie Elways and Alicia Silverstone.

Or the last scene of The Imaginarium of Dr.

Parnassus.

That's in Vancouver.

13th Warrior, actually, a banger.

13th Warrior.

You know, I'm talking

fear.

Fear.

Oh, damn.

Final Destination 3.

Fear is, you know, the big scene with him and Renee.

Renee Witherspoon.

Renee Witherspoon.

That was on the.

We had that movie, too, actually.

Have you been on the roller coaster?

At P ⁇ E?

Yeah.

Oh, is that that roller coaster?

Yeah.

Okay, now I'm having fun.

Yeah.

Now I'm getting it.

Yeah.

I just have to have seen the movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I'm like, these place names do.

I have a feeling that

you had a big crush on that Mark Wahlberg in fear.

Oh.

Because he's such a bad

boy.

He's such a bad boy.

That's such a bad boy.

I think I was too young to watch that movie for sure.

I remember being like, wow, why is he, what's the cherry pun?

I don't get it.

Yeah, they wanted to rename the roller coaster with the wild finger, but

everybody thought it was inappropriate.

They should have.

Or Mark Wohlberg.

I think I always found Mark Woolburg scary.

Like, if I saw a movie when I was a kid or young and the guy played a psycho, like psycho.

I watched psycho with...

Anthony Perkins?

No.

Vince Vaughn.

Oh, Vince Vaughn.

No, American Psycho, sorry.

Oh, with Christian Bale.

Yeah, and like everything I've seen Christian Bale and since, I'm like, there's that psycho.

Do you know, like, it's like he just went in, obviously, like the sign of a great actor, but it just went in so deep.

Yeah.

If I found out that Christian Bale was the psycho, wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Whenever I see Kevin Coster, I'm like, there's Robin Hood.

Yes.

Right?

That was like, that was another great adaptation.

Yeah.

Yep.

Got to go to it with my whatever grade that year was.

And Alan Rickman as the sheriff, sheriff of Nawa.

He wrote a lot of his own dialogue in that.

Did he?

Yeah.

Great fact.

There you you go.

See, this is some fun trivia.

This is.

Should we move on to some overheard?

Please.

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Overheard.

Overheards.

Where you hear them?

Well, you want to hear them too.

That's only fair.

And we always like to start with the guest.

Sophia, do you have an overheard?

I do.

Yeah.

As I say, I was eavesdropping a lot this week since I got the call.

Some of my eavesdrops were very unfruitful.

I listened to a whole conversation on a train where all they did was compare the Evo price if they'd driven to each stop they got to.

She was like, $40?

Oh, no, I was like, I can't use this.

But then in my, in my building, I was,

you know, in the lobby going into the elevator, and there was a girl about my age, and she'd sprained her arm.

She had like a, you know, sore arm, a sling.

And there was another guy getting into the elevator with us.

And he said to her, he's like, oh, what happened to your arm?

And she said,

I was at Joey's drinking and I fell off the bar stool.

Embarrassing way to break.

And she said,

um,

so I'm suing them.

Oh.

Those bar stools are too high.

Oh.

And then he was like, oh, can you sue?

People

over the height of their bar stools and she was like, yeah, they messed up.

that is gonna be it wow yeah

can you sue people when you're drunk i don't know but then i was thinking about it because i was like yeah if i fell off a bar stool i would never be like god what have they done call my lawyer if i fell off a barstool and i was had been drinking i'd be like i should stop drinking yeah yeah i'm suing budweiser yeah like i walked into a table on my way to stage on saturday night and smashed a glass and i wasn't even drunk and i wasn't like these tables are too low yeah

like

you'll be hearing from my legal representative, you know.

Have you ever had a thing where you're like looking back and you're like, I could have sued.

I could have sued if I but I was too embarrassed.

Yeah, exactly.

Too shy.

Yeah.

Yeah, I just feel like there's been things in the past.

I find living wells the best revenge.

New Zealanders don't sue as well.

That's a North American.

Like, I don't think British people really sue.

I don't think Kiwis and Aussies.

Like, it's like something which will be like, do you know, like, I've been watching movies as as a kid in America they're like I'm gonna sue you and I'm like you can just sue like I don't even know what suing

like nobody sues anyone in New Zealand that's just not like we just have accidental cover from the government or for everything right like I don't but I know but like yeah suing is a very North American thing I agree there was a comedian it's very

it is very North American it's it's especially American American

yeah they were like I'm gonna sue you and I was like though that's uh I hate to bring his name up.

That's like Donald Trump's whole career was just suing people.

And I do think it stems from not having the social securities as well.

Like, it's like, you are like, oh, man, if I don't sue you, I'm screwed.

Like, I think there is that tension.

Yeah.

There's a comedian that used to be around named Todd Allen, and he had a joke about being sued where he's like, that's really when I became a man, because you cannot sue a check.

That's a great joke.

I had a great joke when I was in college.

I took a law course.

And and one of the things was,

God, I don't even remember it, but I made my teacher laugh.

But it was about like, it was about having a contract with a minor.

Yeah.

And

it was, it was a real case involving Phil Collins, the musician, the rock star, and his

wife.

Like, and his wife had made,

he was giving child support to the child, but the ex-wife wasn't getting it.

And so she had made a contract with the child.

Like it was so that she could get some of this child support.

And one of the kids was like, oh, I didn't get that he was a rock star.

I thought he was like a geologist.

Like, you said he was a rock star.

And then I was like, oh,

that would

explain why he needed a contract with a minor.

It was convoluted.

I love a good convoluted joke.

Like, I bought that.

The teacher was like, hey, good one.

I like that.

A plus.

Dave, do you have it over here?

Yeah.

Surely you must.

Now, here's what's up: is I went to the Lion King.

And as I

meets no worries for the rest of your days, everybody now.

There was a kid leaving as we were walking out.

There was a kid with like their older brother, and the kid was very annoying and so excited.

And you know how a kid takes so long long to get their sentence out yeah it was that and his brother was getting annoyed and the kid was like julian uh hey julian hey julian did you did you like when uh hey julian did you like when the hyena farted

and his older brother goes uh not really

also i need to point out only pumpa farted yeah pumpa does

fart in the pumpa farts in it yeah did you lean over to the kid and be like um yeah you're dead wrong about that yeah the hyenas were uh, frankly, terrifying.

Yeah, were they?

I feel like it's well, there's the one dumb one, right?

There's two scary ones, and one's got like a like uh

yeah, Graham would know.

I know one of them was voiced by Whoopi Goldberg.

Okay, that's uh, and I think in the original of the remake, in the cartoon, yeah, the original cartoon.

Okay, okay, it was uh, quite a cast.

It was the kid from um

Jonathan Taylor Thomas, and uh, Nathan Lane was in it and

Ernie Sabella was that the

yeah yeah yeah he's a

and James Earl Jones

Jeremy Irons

and uh and Wobby Goldberg

who was grown-up Simba oh

that's a great question I don't recall I know I just remember JTT was young Simba

Robert Guillaume is Rafiki oh Matthew Broderick oh Matthew and then also Rowan Atkinson as he plays the Toucans.

Sazoo.

Yeah, he's in charge of the...

Oh, yeah, he's a good one.

Yeah, what a cast.

Are you kidding me?

A classic, a classic film.

And Moira Kelly as well

from The Cutting Edge.

Oh, I get it.

I think

she was also in Threesome, I believe.

Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.

Or With Honors.

One of those college movies.

With Honors was the one about a racist thing?

No, or Joe Pesci's a Harvard pum.

Oh, yeah, the best nation in the world.

Donation.

This is something I haven't even seen.

Yeah, I haven't seen Cutting Edge with Honors or Threesome.

But you pull it off so well.

Yeah, yeah.

He's no, I was.

I saw, I watched a lot of commercials.

Yeah, me too.

Graham, do you have an overhead?

I do.

I do.

It was at

a Steam Works

brew pub.

Okay.

And it was on the patio.

And

there was nobody else on the patio except the table right next to us.

And they were loud and loud and just talking.

And it was that same kind of thing.

Most of the conversation was so boring.

You were.

Yeah.

It was just like, come on, give me something.

And then I got something.

I was like,

this is okay.

But one of the women was saying to one of the guys, oh, she just goes back and forth.

And she just really flip-flops on it.

And the guy goes, Yes, the inner game of tennis.

The inner game of tennis.

That's a good line.

That's what my

therapist calls it.

The inner game of tennis.

The inner game of tennis.

Feel free to use that as a phrase, everybody out there, inner game of tennis.

This person keeps, they're so indecisive.

They're playing an inner game of tennis or possibly pickleball

or ping-pong.

These are all back-and-forth games.

Badminton, volleyball.

Weird that there's so many of them.

Yeah.

Net games.

I guess so, but I guess there's also a lot of like soccer and hockey are all kind of like goal games.

Goal games, yeah.

Basketball is the only hoop game?

Hoop game.

Right?

There's another hula hooping.

Oh, yeah, hula hooping.

I guess that's not a game.

That's just like a circus.

I'm sure some people compete.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I bet it.

I mean, there's rhythmic gymnastics.

They use it.

Yes.

Ah, yes.

Rhythmic gymnastics.

That hasn't made its way over to New Zealand.

Yeah, always,

always doing it.

Well, the problem is when we do Summer Olympics, it's winter over there.

That's true.

This is true.

Now, we also have overheard sent in to us by people all over the map.

If you want to send one in, send it into SBY at maximumfund.org.

And this first one comes from Mitchell in California.

This is,

oh, wait.

My morning runs go past the campus of a large military hospital.

I'll tell you about my morning run, too.

If I eat too many of those oranges, too many of those crab apples.

My morning run goes past the campus of a large military hospital.

The hospital also has other amenities like tennis courts.

And as I'm running past, I hear over a loudspeaker from the tennis courts.

If you don't win this game, you're getting deployed.

It all depends on this.

So really go for it, you guys.

Is that a thing?

Or is that just a thing that the coach said to get them going?

It was a joke.

I think it was just a joke.

I think it was a joke.

This is what I was saying.

Sometimes I take stuff dead seriously.

But also, that's an American thing because I've never heard of anyone going past a large military hospital.

That had tennis courts, no less.

Yeah, I don't even think we have this corporate.

Our military is dressed as orcs half the time.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if America did have some crazy stuff where they're like, if you lose your own.

Oh, sure, yeah, yeah.

High-stakes poker game.

Yeah, I see.

Well, I mean, it's sort of that outer game of tennis that they're playing.

This next one comes to us from Dan from Brooklyn.

I'm currently amidst cubicles in Manhattan typing on a computer.

Moments ago, narrow a cubicle away.

There was a small clutch of young professional ladies chatting about something.

This is all I caught before they decided to continue conversation elsewhere.

I think that I would hate having a really hot dentist.

That would be the worst case scenario.

Oh, yeah.

It's hard to focus.

If your dentist is really hot, you know, you have to focus though when you're in the chair.

I guess.

Yeah.

Yeah, but when I see a hot dentist, like a super hot dude, I'm like, oh,

my jaw is on the floor already.

So, like, having

my mouth open.

I have

crazy thing is like, I have a dentist office, but I don't have a dentist.

It's just whoever

happens to be the featuring act.

It's like a hot mic of Graham's dental care.

I think they're

who wants Graham.

Yeah, yeah.

I think a lot of like dental offices are just owned by companies now and they hire

and like dentists are transient.

I feel like this is bad for people.

I think so.

Like everything that's happening in healthcare, I think this is bad.

Yeah, I agree.

Although the one good benefit of it was I was being told by two dentists there that I needed a crown and then another dentist was like, you're fine.

And you went with the one that said you're fine.

Of course.

Like,

I'm going with the one that tells me what I want to hear.

Yeah, but they also, that's money to them getting a crown.

That's like a ton of money.

I'm sure we've talked about this before, but like just the fact that

it's happened to me and it's happened to many other people who are like, the dentists are like, well, maybe every four months for you instead of every six months.

Do you think they just, they lie to?

I think it's a money-making thing.

Yeah.

Because they are,

they need to get those numbers up.

But I had the same dentist from childhood all the way up till you know, first year of university, and he's still a dentist, he's still at it all these years later.

But you just had one back in my day, you just had one dentist

stuck with him.

The dentist on the island I grew up on was the richest man that any of us knew.

Like, he owned like a whole beach with like the sprawling mansion, really, yeah.

And I was like, man,

big dentistry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Maybe they have a crush on him now.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I think Chris Rock had a bit about

like in his neighborhood, it's him, Mary J.

Blige, another very famous black person.

Yes, I've seen this joke.

And then some dentist.

Yeah.

They make a lot, like some, and that's why they're often in the news for like killing animals and safari.

You know, like

yeah, that's right.

Yeah, but in my mind, there's a lot of them now.

You're like, it was one guy, guy, and I'm like, it's always.

Christian Bale is a psychopath.

Dentists are all

big game hunters.

This last one comes from Stephen, Parts Unknown, just walking from my car to the bar.

Man one, peeking out a door looking for his friend.

Sees his friend in the distance walking away.

Oh, he's leaving.

Man two, don't worry.

He's just going to get ice cream with that cute British boy.

Man one, he's not British.

He's from here.

Man two, yes, I know, but he has an accent tonight.

What's going on?

I think he's putting on an accent to impress someone.

This is a situation I have some experience with.

Well, Sophia's been doing it this whole episode.

That's what I've been doing this whole time.

I'm not actually doing your regular Canadian voice.

Yeah, hi, guys.

That's what we sound like.

We love it.

Do you guys want to play some hockey later?

Yes.

Got some tin bits.

Yeah, we love it.

No,

saw this guy like that I dated when I was like 18.

He messaged me like recently, which is crazy.

And we didn't date for that long.

I think we dated for like a couple of months.

He was cool, my friend.

He won't mind if I say.

But, well, maybe he will.

Too late.

Anyway, he messaged me and was like, hey, like,

I've been going through some stuff with a recent breakup.

And this girl said a whole bunch of stuff about me.

And I just wondered like what you're, what you found when you were in a relationship with me.

Okay, but in my brain, I was like, dude, I was 18.

It was like three months, you know.

So I was like, no, you were like, you were awesome, you know, because he was awesome.

Like, and then he was like, why did we break up?

Like, was it because I was putting on that fake southern accent the whole time?

And I was like, you weren't from the south?

Like, he was, he's like, I just thought it'd be hot if I, because he was American and I guess I was a Kiwi.

So I think, but he was from California.

But I think he was like, I thought it'd be hard if I was like, hey, lady.

Like, I I think he did like a Southern.

Yeah, and I was like, oh man, I've been had.

Yeah.

And because that's a situation of like a guy in a dating situation putting on an accent

to get a girl or whatever.

I don't, like, I don't know if I would have liked him just to get away from that.

I honestly, when you said, when you didn't say he was American, I was like, oh, maybe there are different accents on different islands.

No, no, no, no.

He was pretending to be Southern American.

But are there?

Like, can you tell us where Southern's from?

The South Island has a little bit more rhotic R.

Like, you know how Canadian has the hard R, like hard R.

Whereas Kiwis would just say hard R.

Whereas the South Island has a little bit of that rhoticity.

So they will say...

The roticity of our city.

Of our city.

Hey!

Ready on the world!

Buddy on disorder!

Disorder!

Disorder!

I have no idea what you guys are doing.

I love it.

System overgrown.

In addition to overhears, I'm going to cut you off right there before we get into the roticity of the R.

Oh, you ever get a roticity chicken?

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That's one.

Ugh, SpyPod 1, like these people have.

Hello, Dave, Graham, and possible guest.

This is Heather from San Francisco, but in Anaheim, California.

And I have been at a conference all week.

And every session has started with the person presenting describing themselves and their outfit.

So, you know, like,

you know, I'm a white lady with dark hair wearing a black dress.

And at the closing, like, speech that just occurred,

I just came home from it.

The CEO came out to introduce one of the co-founders who's retiring this year.

And when said CEO came out and was introducing himself, he said, Hi, I am a white person in my 50s with salt and pepper hair.

I'm wearing a

gray jacket and a checkered shirt.

And then from behind me, I hear someone whisper, and no pants.

All right, off I go.

Is that a thing that's happening now?

Like, is it an accessibility thing for like if people can't see?

Right.

This is what I look like.

Yeah.

Oh.

I mean, let's, I mean, we'll go around the room now and do it.

I'm Dave.

I kind of look like Russell Brand.

Certainly how you watch.

Yeah, I'm as tall as Russell.

I'm Sophia Johnson, Russell Crow.

I'm Graham.

Russet Potato.

I am husband to a murdered wife.

Father to a murdered son.

I will have my vengeance.

Yes, Zophia is the

general who became a slave, the slave who became a gladiator, the gladiator who defied an empire.

Oh, yes.

The Spaniard.

But yeah, I guess that's a thing that people are doing now.

It's fine with me.

They do it sometimes on podcasts, though.

Like one podcast I listen to, he'll describe the guest because he knows a lot of people listen.

Like, you know, it's a, just so you know, it's this person.

Yeah.

If you need to know what Sophia looks like, there's a titanium video video.

She's one of the amateurs.

It's called Summer.

Soundtrack to Summer.

Soundtrack to Summer Bike.

It's almost over.

No more peaches.

No more peaches.

Oh, boy.

Next phone call.

Hey, Dave Graham and guest.

This is Russell from Anchorage, Alaska.

Russell.

Sending you a voice memo with an overheard.

This is from the Charlotte, North Carolina airport.

I was walking through, and this absolutely fabulous-looking southern lady, literally a beehive hairdo, big dangly jewelry, everything, was talking on her phone.

And what she said was, with just like venom, she said, Lamar, Lamar, if you don't have that karaoke machine working, there is going to be hell to pay.

No freaking way.

Off I go.

I mean, if you've put on the invitation karaoke,

you better be ready.

You a karaoke person?

Yeah, you know what song I do.

Yeah, toxicity.

Yeah.

Graham and I do

a duet.

Yeah.

You do?

Yeah, we do.

What?

No, no, we don't.

We do,

I get my hair done.

Check my nails.

Baby, how you feeling?

I feel good as hell.

Nice.

He also said she literally had a beehive haircut, which makes me think actual bees flying in and out of the room.

It's a good look.

It's a good look.

If you can pull off a beehive hairdo,

do it.

Hell yeah.

If you can, do.

If you Todd, teach.

And here's your final phone call.

Hello, Dave Graham and guest.

This is Marcus and Fresno with an overseen that became an overheard.

The city recently put some roundabouts on a residential street to slow down traffic.

And I was out for a walk and I saw a woman in a very small car go into the roundabout and then continue to circle the roundabout a few times.

Her window was rolled down and on the last time I heard her say, Wee!

I can do this all day.

I can see you doing that.

Yeah, yeah.

You got to make your own fun.

Yeah.

They're hard to figure out.

Yeah, especially if you're never like, I remember the first time going around one in Ireland with my cousin.

Oh, yeah, when they have two lanes?

Yeah, I was like, how the hell do you know?

And there's crazy signs pointing in all different directions, and

they don't sweat it at all.

I still hear, I'm like, do I give way to the left or the right?

I mean, like, I'm still trying to translate.

Nobody.

You give way to whoever's already in the roundabout.

Yeah.

And then

everyone to the right, right?

There is a, there is a, in New Zealand, the road code, it is like, there is a thing.

Yeah.

Oh.

Vancouver roundabout rules.

I remember.

How traffic circles work.

Let's find out.

Okay.

One, keep to the right and travel through.

Yeah, we know that.

Yeah.

Or New Zealand, the left in case there's any keys.

Right of way to any vehicle already in the intersection.

If you enter the traffic circle at the same time as another driver, the vehicle to the right has the right of way.

Okay.

Okay.

Just remember, right, right of way.

That's how we'll remember it from now on.

Well, that brings us to the end of this podcast.

That's it.

Sophia, you are recording a special.

Yes, I'm recording video, audio.

Video and audio.

Oh, they're not just going to do video.

And this is going to be shown in IMAX or XIMAX for TV4.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's on the 27th of September, and it's at the review stage on Granville Island in Vancouver.

Yeah, I really am hoping some fans of the pod come out.

I'm going to do a discount code.

I was thinking I would just go like SPY10.

SPY10.

SPY10.

Write that down.

I'll put it in the Facebook group, too.

The SPY10.

And that's a 10% discount?

No, you get $10 tickets.

They use you $25.

Oh, my God.

That's a good deal.

For the pod, like, these people, they even said hello to the guest.

Like they're getting 10, they're getting $15 off.

Nice.

I don't know what the math is on there.

What's the website for that?

The website is AdmitOne Community.

Admit One Community.

Yeah, hopefully the fees are low and

they're hard to rip off.

You're already getting $15 off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I'm using the code SPY 10.

You're doing a whole, this is an hour.

I'm doing an hour.

I'm doing like just like the kind of the best material I've written in the last like five years.

But also if there was a loose theme, I'm I'm kind of like Treasure Island coding it just a little bit.

Okay.

Like think like Muppet's Treasure Island, but not at all.

You know, just like a little bit.

Like I've got.

I don't know what you're talking about.

You don't know Treasure Island?

I do, but how is your stand-up?

Well, so I've got like palm trees on the stage.

Oh, the look of it.

And then I'm doing lots of stories about growing up on an island and having like a pirate as a neighbor.

And like, so it's like, like inside, it's fall right now, but inside the theater, it's going to be summer.

Fun.

Yeah.

The 27th.

27th.

It'll be my soundtrack of summer or whatever.

No.

No.

I'll be dressed as an Amalonian and try not to get cancer.

Have you seen the

Muppet

Treasure Island?

No.

So good.

Have you seen any of the Muppets, the Treasure Island movies?

I probably did when I was younger.

I've only seen, I've seen almost every Muppet movie, but no Treasure Island yet.

No Treasure Island.

I also haven't seen.

Oh, I saw half of Muppets from Space or Muppets in Space.

No, you know what?

I probably haven't seen most of the Muppet movies because I haven't seen the new ones.

I haven't seen the like 90s ones.

I've just seen Scrooge and Treasure Island.

You never seen like the original Muppet movies?

Just Christmas Carol and Treasure Island.

Only the classic books that have been adapted.

And either The Caper or Take Manhattan.

Yeah, I mean, Take Manhattan's great.

They put on a Broadway show.

I've seen one of them.

When I was at the Puppet making course, at one point, it was like late.

We all stayed late, and somebody put on a playlist, and it was all songs for Muppet Movies.

I was like, guys, you're someone that knows here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

After all, it's only one more sleep till Christmas.

Nice.

Good, good.

Yes.

Well, thank you so much for being our guest.

Thank you so much for having me.

If you can make it to the recording, do so.

Sophia is very funny.

You gotta see her on stage doing her thing in a tropical backdrop.

Yep.

And thank you, everybody out there, for listening.

Defy an Empire if you can.

And come on back next week for another episode.

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