G HERBO | Drill Music, Trauma, Giving Back

What happens if you're born like on the east side where you're from and you're a nerd?

You're just a fucking nerd.

What if you suck at basketball?

You can't rap.

That's a great question.

What if you're bad at school?

A nerd and dirt.

Ugly,

small dick.

What do you do?

Damn, that's a good question.

What do you do?

Ah, fuck.

I was just about to say that.

That sucks.

Don't kill yourself because you got a small pee-pee.

Don't do that.

No, I don't have.

I'm not talking about me.

It's 20-25.

They got surgeries and all types of shit.

Do something like that.

At least I have my hair.

You know, I'm chilling.

Oh, my, everyone.

Oh, my God.

Alrighty to me.

Welcome to the Adam Friedland Show.

I'm your host, Adam Friedland.

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So after this week, we will be back the second week of August and every week thereafter until President Donald John Trump gets the justice that he deserves.

My guest this week is the multi-platinum certified recording artist G.

Herba.

As a teenager growing up in Chicago, he rose to prominence alongside artists like Chief Keefe and Lil Dirk, trailblazing a movement that would later explode globally, drill music.

These artists made a name for themselves online, recording and uploading their own music and shooting their own videos, painting unfiltered pictures of the harsh realities that they were living through.

In recent years, Herb has become a vocal advocate for mental health in his community and spoken candidly about having PTSD and survivor's guilt and the emotional toll of growing up around violence and loss.

Now, obviously, on the surface, it seems like Herb and I have a lot in common.

We're both hip-hop heads.

We both go to therapy.

We're both beloved artists.

But what I found challenging was relating to his upbringing.

I've never been shot by a gun.

I've never even had a broken bone.

The only injury I've ever sustained is a broken heart.

But then I discovered the G Herbo app.

Everything I ever wanted to know about Herb in one simple location.

I spent hours scrolling through the posts and comments, gaining insight into Herb's life through his personal videos.

And as you'll see in the interview, my research really paid off.

What can I say?

We clicked.

Which is why I've taken the liberty of creating an app of my own, the gHerbo and Adam Friedland app.

For the first time ever, you can keep up with rapper gHerbo and talk show host Adam Friedland simultaneously.

The app also includes features like a world map, a personal notepad, and a calculator function.

So you can download now through the link in our description.

And a big thanks to gHerbo for giving me this great idea.

So without further ado, here's our conversation.

So guys like it's like it's a talk show.

Like for real.

Imagine we're at the tonight show and you guys are people in time that tourists in Times Square that got free tickets.

So it just will it's it'll be fun.

Everyone's ready?

We're excited?

You guys are so confused.

That's my cue?

No, no, no.

Yeah, no.

We'll keep that in the episode though.

Ladies and gentlemen, he is perhaps on the Mount Rushmore of Chicago Drill Rappers.

I'm so excited to introduce G.

Herba, girl.

Everyone, please welcome him.

Thank you so much.

For sure.

I'm so excited.

Thanks for having me, bro.

You're,

I guess,

I guess you're the third rapper.

I mean, if you count Chet Hanks, Tom Hanks's son, you're the fourth rapper that's been on the show.

Tom Hanks had a son that rap?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, wow.

Well, I think he did rap.

Now he's a country music star.

And one of my best friends, I think.

Yeah.

I want to start off.

I got to pay tribute.

We had Jay to Kiss on the show.

Oh, shit.

Okay, okay.

I paid tribute, and

I don't want you to feel like it has to be equal, right?

To goats.

Any goat that comes on the show,

I appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

I also know Kiss is one of your guys.

Yeah, for sure.

He's

on your Mount Rush board.

So

I got you some 42 drink champs drink champs

I appreciate that bro

I appreciate that yeah yeah that's for you and I also got you for sure I don't know if you've had these Herb but these are from Trader Joe's these are the peanut butter milk chocolate cups if you haven't had them they're gonna knock your socks off Say less.

So these for me too.

Well, Kiss different.

42 and peanut butter cups.

Kiss actually didn't get those.

Oh, Kiss didn't get these.

He didn't get the cups, but he got the 42.

Say less, say less.

Should we, wait, you want to do a Lechaim?

Should we do a Lechaim?

Yeah, come on.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere.

Great cups.

I'm good.

A Lechaim.

A Lechaim.

A Lechaim.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm one of those.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

I'm Jewish.

Yeah.

We could toast.

This is.

Yeah.

I mean, I just...

You want to do a toast with me, bro?

Of course.

These are the mugs.

These are the Adam Freeland Show mugs.

You can take one back to Los Angeles.

I can?

Of course.

Say less.

You're excited mostly about the mug?

This is 42.

This is what

I'm deciding.

I'm excited about the mug and the 42 though, bro.

But I fuck with the mug.

Yeah.

Am I the first Jewish guy that's interviewed you?

I believe so.

That feels great.

That feels great.

If you're not the first, you're definitely the coolest.

I'm going to put...

Well, I mean, that's not hard.

Am I the first 38-year-old

Jewish guy?

Probably so.

I do a bunch of research for the interviews.

And like, you know,

as a Jewish boy, like, full disclosure, like, we all grew up listening to hip-hop and then.

You got to go G-Fasos too, though.

Like.

Exactly.

You got to put a pair of G'fasos.

Do you own a pair?

Do you own a pair?

I was going to get a pair of Trueys for this.

I was going to, yeah.

You could have, you should have got the Chief Keefe collab.

I should have got, yeah, a huge

polo horse.

That's how we used to dress in high school.

Polo, big Argentina, or like the country polo, whichever one, like Italy or some shit.

True religions, white ones.

We We call them G-Fez Os.

Who was it?

What Keith invented that or who put that on?

It was always like the Chicago culture of how to dress, but I would say, yeah, Sosa definitely, like, you know, he was like one of the first, well, not one of the first, he was the first like teenager that was like rich.

So he was having like flavors of this shit.

It was cool to dress that way.

Next time you come on the show, this is a part one.

I will have full Truey

Jean Jackson.

I need to see that shit.

I will have the Canadian tuxedo.

the true religion.

I will have it.

And I'll have like a belt buckle and I'll take a picture like this.

I got it.

With the showing the buckle.

Well, a buckle, though.

You got to have like a Ferragamo belt buckle.

That's what we used to do.

A Ferracon belt buckle.

Ferragamo.

Farrakhan.

The Reverend Professor.

Well, Hermes, Hermes.

That's the thing that's the H.

Get the H.

You were a Hoopa growing up?

Yep.

A little.

Were you nice?

A little.

You were a Combo Guard?

Yep.

You were a two?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

One, two, yeah.

You had Court Vision, though?

Yeah.

I was like, any team I play on, I'm like the Draymond Green of that team.

Punchy guys in the background.

Like this energy.

What do you mean?

Like,

what is it?

You're not the dramatic.

It's like the energy of aggression, like, for real.

Like,

Draymond is a key

component on his team, any team he goes to.

I was talking to Blake.

I'm going to tell you the truth.

No, no, like, I don't, like, you got to say pause when you say this.

You feel what I'm saying?

Like, so.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So my little brother, right, he played basketball, too.

He was harder than me.

Oh, sorry.

He was better than me.

Real time.

But he got like a trick.

Well, like he got from his cousin, Paul's.

I swear, like, it was.

A trick.

They used to get stick.

Like, if somebody go off for the layup, no homo, you, like, they used to, like, swap him on his shit.

Like, hit him on the balls.

Like, swap him.

Prison ball style.

Yeah, nigga, lose the ball.

Now you got a free steal if they don't call it.

Like, they used to really do that.

That's some Draymond shit, though.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

i think it's dishonorable i think that's an that's very dishonorable i think it's a

style of sixth grade seventh grade that was like a way to get a quick steal

nut tapping was a big thing in sixth grade yeah and niggas done gotten fights for that shit too though i wouldn't fight a guy if he nut tapped me while i was while i was just posting you doing a poster on him which i've done so many times

have you ever you you vammed

have you have you have you dunked have you dunked yeah nine feet i got two left feet though bro i'm gonna be honest.

I never was athletic.

You feel what I'm saying?

There's a video of Derek Rose doing Chicago footwork.

No, it's not.

When he was in high school?

No, it's not.

Come and get my cell phone.

It's the best video I've ever seen.

Actually, someone gets my cell phone.

Anyone ever seen that video?

Anybody else?

Please, please.

You ain't see that video.

I'm getting it right now.

It's actually this.

I need to see it.

You know nothing of Chicago.

You got this.

The shots just sitting here, too.

You know nothing of Chicago.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

Okay, we'll do the shots and watch the.

It's my favorite video on YouTube.

Where's my phone?

It's over there.

My favorite thing of D.

Rose

was the picture of him in the party throwing the rakes up.

I can't believe it.

Rapper problems, man.

You know nothing of Chicago.

No, this is the better one because this is to I Just Died Neuron.

Right.

Here, let me see this shit.

He's unbelievable.

Well, that's Dead Rose.

No, that's not.

That's not not D.

Rose, bro.

That's not fucking D.

Rose.

You're a liar.

DNS D-Rose?

Yeah, look how he's credible he is.

I want D-Rose here, real baby.

DNS D-Rose, wait.

Wow.

Bro, that's not D-Rose, bro.

Oh, shit.

D.

Rose had them bitches.

Nah, D.

Rose had them bitches for real.

There's more famous people in there?

Nah, yeah, like like Chicago, like if you knew how to forward, you was that guy.

He did 106 in Park.

He had a Motorota commercial all off of Ford.

Are we going to do this?

What's your give a toast?

Lechayim.

Lechayim, my man.

Ah, drink it.

That is really good.

That is really good.

I literally did the same thing with Kiss.

So I kind of want to avoid in talking about, I just want to talk to you about yourself.

I don't want to like give a taxonomy taxonomy of Chicago.

I guess I started

your family,

who your parents were,

your siblings, and like, did your parents play music in the house?

Like, what was the first music you heard?

My mom, she listened to a lot of music.

Like, she played hot house music.

I think that's why I'm so well-rounded, because my mom didn't listen to rap growing up.

Like, Frankie Knuckles.

Frankie Beverly.

Really?

Chicago.

My mother's favorite artist is like Seal.

She played a lot of shit.

Shaman Rinks and the hell, shit like that.

That was where the artist.

Share.

Have you seen a picture of Shade 2025?

No.

She's an 11, still.

Yeah.

She looks perfect.

I bet.

She's one of the most, she was an incredible woman.

I was just about to say that too.

I was going to say when she's in the middle of the moment.

She looks perfect.

Yeah.

Yes.

Just to pause for a second.

We're just having an audio issue.

My mic.

Let me just take my shirt.

I'm missing.

You missed all of that?

No, it's fine.

It's hard to put me in the night.

Let me take off my shirt.

No, come on, pause.

that's crazy let's just do this

i can't believe this you're sexually harassing our guest herb you're wearing too much jewelry i really kept it light i got that that's a this light day yes is it does it hurt your neck ever to wear too much jewelry with the charms when i got on like when i used to wear a lot of charms i used to wear like four charms at one time and it hurt your neck it's impractical because they'd drag it down you would have like yeah you know little like it's pinching you the back of your neck and shit yeah

these light these i could wear these i never i've i never really wear jewelry it's not my thing we could go maybe to just it up and yeah

you know where do you go where do you go who's your guy um the ice box i got like see me

i've literally bought at least one chain from every jeweler every single jeweler oh very political very political exactly very political it's a Hebraic thought so it's like when I get them all I might buy some shit from here like this all came from Benny the jeweler but I bought jewelry from Icebox, Shine,

Treasures, Eliante,

you're a nice guy.

You name it, man.

I should show everybody love.

That's so nice of you.

But it involves you spending a lot of money on things.

Absolutely.

Fucking loot.

Yeah.

So that's kind of annoying.

I guess so.

Your mom listened to Chicago House.

What about your dad?

My dad, he listened to, like, my dad is more of a, like,

he likes Nas and like shit like Golden Era 93 New York.

Like, big and shit.

He used to listen to a lot of like public enemy KRS1,

Big Daddy Kane.

He old school.

Yeah.

What do you think about like the old, you know, when it was like

Jacob be nimble, Jacob be quick?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is that

fuck, what's that?

Like when did they start talking about

the shames with the hills and hills?

Were there guys trying to like, at a party, try to finger pop a girl to like a nursery rhyme stuff?

That's what hip-hop came from.

Yeah.

Originated.

And then But I listen to all that hippity-dippity shit.

I mean, I've.

Sometimes.

But it's not as cool, right?

No, no.

It's kind of, yeah.

That's interesting you said your dad likes the East Coast stuff because I feel like when

your

generation of Chicago guys were like becoming well-known around the country, it was like interesting to see, oh, what does this sound like, right?

You know?

And like, I heard, when I first heard Chief Heath, I was like, oh, this is like, it sounds like Atlanta, like Atlanta trap music, right?

But you always sounded like the guy that was more influenced by the East Coast.

Absolutely.

Appreciate it.

And especially like the way you rap, too.

I fell in love with like

kind of like, I mean,

my first like vivid memories of falling in love with hip-hop was like.

The first song that I used to love when I was a cat, probably like two, three years old.

Like I got five, even though that's not East Coast, but that, and then the second, like, probably like 98, 99, I was like three, four years old, one of my favorite songs was

Jay-Z, what's my name?

Jigger.

Like, that was a song.

Like, those are like songs that kind of made me fall in love with hip-hop as far back as I could remember.

Growing up, when I started to want to rap and fall in love with music, it was like Jaded Kiss, Joelle, Santana.

It was all East Coast shit, though.

Other than Wayne.

Other than Wayne.

Other than Wayne.

Yeah.

He's incredible.

Yeah, you told me he was friends with Jaded Kiss.

Yeah, we're really close.

We're close.

I'd be hollering at Kiss too, though.

We talk about a lot of real shit.

He's a really nice guy.

He's so funny.

He just gave me a lot of

insight on just

how good I am, basically.

I'm a humble dude, but

kids tell me, I'm really that.

How's that feel?

It feels amazing.

He talks about somebody like that.

He must feel incredible.

For sure.

Every time I have a conversation with him, it's just he gave me that little boost of confidence to let me know I'm really one of those when it come to like MCing.

You feel me?

Yeah.

That shit feels good.

Respecting your peers is incredible.

It's like, yeah.

If a good comic says good set, it feels like it's money.

Really?

Yeah, it feels incredible.

Well, no, it's never happened.

No one's ever even...

Fuck out of here.

No bad comic.

Can I come to one of your shows?

Yeah, you'd love it.

I'm sure I would.

I'm very influenced by

Bruce Bruce, Earthquake.

For real?

No, no.

But I grew up...

Actually...

Can you tell me

your top three comedians right now?

Right now?

Like, growing up, what influenced you to be a comedian?

I mean, when I was a kid, I liked Adam Sandler a lot.

Yeah.

What about Jerry Seinfeld?

I loved the show Seinfeld.

Did you grow up watching Seinfeld?

A little bit.

You did?

What do you think about it?

Adam Sandler is one of my favorite comedians as well.

We're like the same guy?

Like actors, too.

I mean, he's the best.

Yeah, I liked Adam Sandler.

I liked, like, yeah, I liked Borad a lot when I was a Borad.

That was the funniest movie I've ever seen.

I love Borad.

I used to watch Borad with my mom all the time.

I watched with my mom, too.

Yeah.

My mom used to go like this.

We went to the theater and she went like this and she said, I'm going to pee, I'm going to pee, I'm going to pee.

She kept saying that.

It was a very sweet look.

Nah, I'm not going to lie.

I literally, I could call my mom right now.

Like, my mom liked dark humor.

So, like, Bull Rat was like the shit.

Yeah.

You're a mom's boy?

Me too.

Me too.

Yeah.

She was my favorite.

Yeah.

We had the same sense of humor, too.

I feel like me and my friends.

Me and my mom, too.

Yeah, yeah.

Me and my mom kind of like,

don't get me wrong.

We got like a mother-son relationship, but it's kind of like a brother-sister as well like yeah my mom is like one of my closest friends just because we both know that she likes us better than him and she had you know she had to settle for him but if she had a choice it would have been us and we're her perfect man

my dad used to be jealous he used to say like that like i wish i was g herbo's mom like he used to say like that

you used to that's like it's that's like freudian that's like yeah it's just strictly like you're trying to like dunk on on your father i mean that's we have very similar upbringings

man i don't know i can't help it i'm just that guy bro he was like uh you i saw the interview with you where you said you wished he was more strict no i wish he was less strict less strict yes yeah but i wish he was more like what i meant not even strict i wish he was more like

hands-on with what i was doing early on you feel me like my dad gave me a lot of like he was strict coming up as to how he wanted me to be, but as I started to like grow into my own personality and being a young young man he kind of like fell back and just let me like do whatever I wish you would have been a little more hands-on with just like wanting to be involved with the shit I was doing yeah yeah did uh were you good at school I was smart it sounds like you were smart yeah I was very smart I was really smart but I I got in a lot of trouble though like in school like yeah just being a knucklehead mischievous and shit but I was really really smart I always got good grades yeah and did you you graduated high school or you I got my diploma but I dropped out when I was like a sophomore.

Because you were rich.

Because you did a song with Nicki Minaj at 17.

I did.

Yeah.

I did.

I was making a lot of money in high school, but I was dumb.

I was spending that shit, bro.

I wasn't saving it.

Well, that's what a kid was supposed to do.

I was fucking it up.

No, but you retired your mom.

I did.

Yeah.

So, like,

I always been like a hustler, I always made it happen, but I wasn't like...

Yeah.

I didn't have financial literacy in a way, if I must say.

When I want another one?

Yeah, for you.

We're having the best.

It's the best day of of my life.

When I

read about what it was, because obviously, here's the thing:

the first Chicago rap I heard was Chief Keefe, right?

And don't like.

Yeah.

The first, like, I remember the don't like video.

Were you a fan, though?

I must act.

It blew my mind.

Because it's like, you know what rap is, right?

For me, it was like, when I was a junior in high school, my Ethiopian friend,

he burned me

the college dropout.

And I was like oh this guy's a nerd I was like this guy isn't like talking about like killing people and I was I don't think I was like

this is the first nerd

until our era until your era yeah if you think about it well the interesting thing is that there's a documentary about Kanye I brought it up before on the show but like as much as they were like listen you make the best beats you like basically made the blueprint and but you're like a nerd dude you like you can't be a rapper and he's like I want to be a rapper I want to be a rapper I want to be a rapper but half of it was like a guy from Chicago can't be a rapper, absolutely.

Before Kanye, nobody made it like uh

cheers, cheers, yeah.

So, like,

this is like a controversial question.

Like,

nobody crossed over into that global superstardom in Chicago before Kanye.

The biggest artist to come out of

Chicago before Kanye

was like Twister and Common.

You know what I'm saying?

But

it didn't, it wasn't that national international attention.

You feel I'm saying like until ye and then Sosa.

But even when Ye came out, it didn't bring a spotlight to Chicago, you know, like even with Ye being Ye and the shit that he did, which was legendary, of course, but it didn't put a magnifying glass on Chicago, like, oh, they got talent here.

It wasn't until Sosa came out and did what he did, which was, oh, it's talent in Chicago.

Like, that's when, you know, like, when Sosa came out, it was a wave of artists that became superstars.

Nobody became a superstar after Ye, if I'm not mistaken.

Somebody could correct me if I'm wrong, until Sosa, if I'm, I believe.

I think you're, I guess.

Because all of us, like, consequence,

Jay Ivey, I'm trying to think of the guys, the features on those early records.

Nah, they wasn't like,

he put his boys on there.

He definitely did for sure.

Like, the GLC, all those guys, he definitely put his team on, but it didn't bring like, you know,

like real attention to Chicago.

like right me sosa dirt

you guys were

too like chance that's all one era we all came up at one time so I can't really say it was a big gap in between that yeah I guess um

I guess yeah it it blew my mind there there have been a couple times because I've like always like liked rap but like there have been a couple times where I'm like this is a new thing yeah and it's like when I saw don't like I was like there's no girls in this video yeah yeah I was like there's no sluts I was like, it's all guys.

There's no sluts.

I'm like, where are the sluts?

I'm like, it's supposed to be that they're they're Rich and they get they get pussy we didn't have no and there were no girls and they're not wearing shirts and they're keep they're boys yeah they're just

getting pussy though we just wasn't broadcasting it like I ain't gonna lie you know what I'm gonna and from the outside looking in I think Like if I had to think from the outside looking in, because I can't say that because I was a part of it.

Yeah.

Like, I think just the world and all is seeing a hundred niggas

doing drugs, having guns and shit in the video.

It was like, and these kids.

Like, what the fuck are they doing?

Yeah, to be kids, like, 15, 16 years old.

And they're like, what the fuck is this?

Like, people just couldn't believe it.

It was like the, have you seen City of God?

That movie?

Yeah, I love that.

It's like the little kids at the end of the movie that killed the main character.

Yeah, we just played.

And I'm like, this is like there.

This is, it felt like that.

And I was like, where's the furniture in the apartment?

It looks completely empty.

I was like, what's going on?

Where are they?

But

that Chicago shit, bro.

I can't believe this shit.

You're really bringing back a lot of memories by you saying it.

Who was like,

who were the adults?

Like,

who were they?

Who was like getting you licensing deals and stuff?

There was no, like,

don't get me wrong.

It was the adults around, but I'm saying that, like, the influence behind what we was doing, it just wasn't there.

We was just like young, like, like the city of God, just like young, badass rebel kids just doing shit but the few adults that we did have around played a significant role whereas like if we didn't have those guys shit probably wouldn't not have like worked or been what it was like right you know like I had

guys like Mickey around like so head guys like pan around and shit like that to just like all right let me try to

you know organize this shit a little bit and like navigate when you know I'm saying they could actually make some of it cuz I already think we knew what we was doing or we really gave a fuck for real for real we was just like dropping music hey whatever money we make is cool we're gonna put this back in the hood and right

just thug it out for the rest of our life i think that's what all our mindsets was at the time did you have like a notion of like who what the audience was right because it was all on there was like twitter you'd like tweet i'm gonna i'm gonna i hate this guy and then you do a youtube video where you you do a song about hating someone yeah and then there's it's getting millions of views and then but it affects your real life yeah right people are getting killed absolutely you know but like there's an audience for it like did you have a notion of like that people were consuming it outside of chicago and that you're performing it that's the thing you do so no like we did that like for like our neighborhood and the people in chicago to know like all right but this we own we the guys over here in this neighborhood we weren't thinking about like New York and LA and what their culture was and the other fucking 45 states in the country.

Like, we were not thinking about that.

We weren't thinking, because the internet was just coming out at that time.

And it's like, we weren't thinking that people were going to watch this shit in Asia and watch this shit in London.

And we were not thinking about none of that.

We just like, all right, bet, we finna put this shit out on YouTube.

Because in a way, we kind of wanted the niggas we was dissing to see that shit.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, we wanted to make this, put it out on YouTube for them to see it.

You feel me?

So it's like,

me personally, I wasn't thinking about like nobody else in the world watching this shit.

I had no knowledge of that.

I wanted hood fame.

I swear like that's what I wanted.

I wanted to be hood famous like I bet this herb he from this area.

You know what I'm saying?

Like he got this area on lot type shit.

And niggas wanted bitches too though.

But girls liked it if you had a big song.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or girls liked it if you was just in the streets for real.

Or if you got shot.

Girls liked it.

Or if you was shooting.

Girls liked it.

One of the two.

I did that wrong.

I should have been shooting.

Yeah, I think they respect the shooter.

What happens if you're born, like,

like on the east side where you're from, and you're a nerd?

You're just a fucking nerd.

Like, what do you do?

What if you suck at basketball?

You can't rap.

That's a great question.

What if you're bad at school?

You're not even, can't even get it to Harvard.

You're like...

A nerd and dirt.

Ugly,

small dick.

What do you do?

Damn, that's a good question.

What do you do?

Like, what are you supposed to do?

Kill yourself.

Ah, fuck.

I was just about to say that.

That sucks.

but i think you can't though you can't say that because the the world is sensitive about that kind of stuff you can say we can say

on youtube he can say it he can say it we're here with him we hanging with him right now yeah but no don't don't kill yourself because you got a small pee-pee don't don't do that no i don't have i'm not talking about me it's 2025 they got surgeries and all type of shit you can save your money up You feel I'm saying?

Yeah.

I have to do something like that.

At least I have my hair.

I'm chilling.

Yeah, for sure.

Can I say something, though, bro?

You remind me of the actor.

Have anybody ever told you you look like this guy on his name?

He played in the fly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You look just like him, bro.

You know, exactly.

Jadakin said that to me, too.

Did he?

Yeah.

That's crazy.

He literally said, really, really.

He said the guy.

He literally said the same movie.

The fly.

The fly.

That's crazy.

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Okay, in GDBD, now I'm doing it.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Was there a white guy?

Was there one white guy?

A white.

Did you have like a Chinese guy?

Oh, fuck.

It had to be some white GDs and BDs.

Really?

It had to be.

How do you get in?

For sure.

When you're white, you got to do some crazy shit.

Yeah, it's like the Chappelle joke.

When you're white, you got to do the most gangster shit ever.

You have to be a psychopath.

Yeah, you got to

go outside and do some stupid shit.

To be like Charles Manson or something.

Yeah, you got to be like that for sure.

But it was some, I'm sure it was some white GDs and BDs and shit.

Were people's parents

informing their decisions in that way?

I know that a lot of it was influenced by.

Dirk's dad was involved in that.

Exactly.

A lot of people's parents was already in the streets.

These gangs didn't come out.

We didn't make this shit up.

This shit was going on for 40 years before us.

And did it stem from the Black Panthers being broken up?

A lot of it, like, yeah.

So a lot of those...

gangs stem from the Black Panthers being broken up and then people had to form like, you know, gangs in their neighborhood to protection like gangs really started like on some positive shit like to protect the neighborhood to you know what i'm saying like make sure the kids get safe going to school like they had like free breakfast free food programs and stuff like that

yeah it was a real community organization to keep people safe so like the police couldn't come in and just whoop other people ass or other like people from other neighborhoods like with racism and shit like that's how it started but i think when you know poverty shit like that when when people started to realize like drug,

and I'm being completely honest, like this is a serious subject, because like we come from poverty-strucken neighborhoods, so a lot of people didn't, we didn't have no resources to like take care of ourselves and make money.

So, when drugs got involved and people started selling drugs, that's when like the war happened, because territory, you need certain territory to sell drugs, certain shit like that.

Like, it was just really just a source of like a source of income for a lot of people.

But, you know, the black, we didn't know know what those drugs was gonna do to us like right people started doing heroin and thinking it was just a party drug and shit like that until you strung out and you fucked up when crack hit the streets it was just like a party drug experiment and shit like that and then it just and then they were like changed everything

yeah yeah yeah they had crack and then they

no bullshit that's how it happened bro like for real bro like no funny like

We really got a movie

that talk about that type of shit in Chicago, like what the gang culture was, how did it start, and what drugs like did to the community.

Because people was only just trying to take care of themselves.

There wasn't no job.

Spike made that movie about Fred Hampton, right?

Yeah.

The Black Panther movie.

It was a great movie, too.

You so young.

I was in the soundtrack.

You were in the soundtrack?

For that movie, yeah.

Oh, congratulations.

Thanks.

Did you meet Spike?

I've never met Spike yet.

He lives in my neighborhood.

You do?

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, you were rich.

No, no, no.

He lives in the same neighborhood that...

Well, it's like, yeah, it's a nice.

Bro, you rich, bro.

Just say it.

I'm not rich.

It's okay to say you're rich.

I'm not rich.

Come on, bro.

How?

I don't believe it.

You're rich.

You have like Jewish-style, responsible businesses.

That's the other interesting thing about you guys, right?

And I think, is it maybe because you guys grew up so fast, right?

Like, you smoked weed at six?

Yeah.

How you look?

I researched.

Yeah, I did.

You smoked weed at six.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

13, dude.

13 your first time.

Yeah, dude.

Fucking.

The Jews, we love you.

What age do you have your bar mitzvah 13.

oh okay you a man then technically that was our thing like the the jewish lads we loved we loved piff

yeah and then i bonded with the mexicans in high school because they also loved they like mota yeah you know mota mota mota and they loved uh they also loved the smiths and morrissey Do you know

it's this band from England?

And they have this, the lead singer is gay.

Or I think, yeah, he's gay, right?

This is this guy Morrissey.

And they're like, but the Mexicans are like particularly into Morrissey, but they're also homophobic.

And I remember I told one of them, I was like, it's weird that you, I mean, I love the Smiths too.

They're like, Adam, you're like an emo, right?

And I was like, kind of, not really.

No, not emo.

But they're like, you like this meets, Los Smiths?

And I was like, yeah.

And I was like,

and they're like, you fuck with Morrissey.

And I was like, that's, it's, it's weird because he's like gay.

Like, you guys like him.

And he's like, how the fuck?

That's all fucked up shit to say about Morrissey.

They have no, they had no concept of the fact that it was a gay guy.

But the lyrics have like pasio in the lyrics

Chicago Chicago has a lot of Mexicans too, right?

A lot.

I grew up in the West Coast.

I like the third largest like

like Mexican population in the U.S.

I think it's LA

and like

LA then maybe Texas then Chicago.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're great guys.

One thing I was wondering when I was like researching you and growing up, I was like, like, if you guys want to do crime, I don't know.

This is the first thing that came up to on, I don't know.

Far be it from me to tell

you lads how to do your job, but like, you know, like, I dated a girl from Lake Forest.

You could have stolen so much crap up there.

Yeah.

You were just stealing from other people in your neighborhood.

And they have shit.

And these are like, these Jewish people up there, you could have taken anything you want.

They policing is different.

Like, it's hard to take some shit out there and get back.

It's kind of two different cities a little bit.

Because if you steal some shit in Chicago, they probably let you out the next day.

You steal some shit in Evanston, you fuck around, go do five to ten.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you think people care a lot more.

Like, it's different.

Like, they don't care about us stealing each other's shit.

They're like, oh, yeah, go ahead.

Go steal some more.

Those people cannot protect their crap.

They can't protect it, but if you get caught, God forbid,

if you get caught, your ass is going under the jail.

I'm just telling you guys: if you're a kid in Chicago, go up there.

They can't do anything.

They're

some of the weakest Jewish people I've ever seen.

Hey, what's the fuck, bro?

Like, what?

Anyway,

I need another drink.

Let's talk about rap.

This shit is too weak.

Let's talk about rapping.

Like, when did you realize

you were good at rapping?

I've been good at rapping all my life, bro.

I'm not even being funny about it.

You just knew.

Yeah, I've always been good at rapping.

You're like, Meek.

You started taking it serious at like 14, but...

Yeah.

And you wanted to be like Meek.

I knew how to.

Yeah, I did.

I wanted to be like Wayne and Joel's first.

first yeah and then i wanted to be like meek i want i started looking up to me when i was like 16 maybe yeah i started looking up to wayne and jewels when i was like 10.

are you friends with meek yeah hell yeah he was having a rough one my dog he was getting he was people were being mean to him last year yeah but see niggas like us bro we always overcome that adversity and you gotta think when you at the top it's nothing else to do but somebody to throw stones or try to pull you down and pull you off your square and and cuz understand that better than anybody, you know, and he built for that shit.

So niggas like us, he leaned towards it.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

And

they love you today, they hate you tomorrow, and then they love you again.

So that's exactly what went on with broke for sure.

But like, that shit, that's happened to me before as well.

And I'm sure it's going to continue to happen as long as I stay in this shit.

Free coughs?

Fuck, no.

What are you talking about?

What do you mean?

That's happened to me.

People trying to pull you down.

Oh, people trying to hate.

Yeah.

Yeah, trying to pull you off the top of the shit.

Oh, of course.

It happens to me all the time.

Yeah, bro.

Cuz a real nigga, bro.

We know Cuz wasn't a a part of none of that shit, bro.

Well, he's not.

It's just like, uh, would you collab with now?

If he's, if he walks, would you collab with Diddy?

Yeah, I fuck with him, man.

Free Diddy.

Would you collab with Robert Kelly?

I'll collab with Unk any day of the week.

He's kind of.

Do you think if society is just like

if all of the victims are like, we forgive him?

He's such a, he's, if society is like, we need, he's a gene, this genius back,

okay, I shouldn't say, I'm gonna get in trouble, right?

I just watched track.

I'm gonna go back in the closet for the first time in a while, and I'm like,

this is a work of genius.

It's a super work of genius.

It's unfortunate.

This man is a genius.

I watched that, and then I watched it with, he does a director's commentary, and he's in the theater, and

then the movie's playing.

He directed that himself.

Yeah, of course.

He's a genius.

He's no-tour.

He's like,

he's the greatest filmmaker of all time.

But he's watching it and then the opening shot is like a skyline of Chicago and he turns he turns back.

He's like in a director's chair.

He turns back.

He's like, I put this in because I wanted people to know it's in Chicago.

That's the guy that kills man.

Dude, that guy.

See, me personally, I'll be having to watch what I say and comment and speak on certain shit, even if I'm making sense because everything I do, like, go viral.

So it's like, cancel culture is a bitch.

Would you collab with Woody Allen?

Who the fuck is Woody Allen?

Who is that?

Who is Woody Allen?

Innocent, also.

Just an innocent guy.

Yeah, I don't know, man.

I feel like, you know,

you should watch his movie.

Like, see me.

I don't know.

Oh, he's come on.

It's anti-Semitism, whatever they did.

What they're saying about it.

But I'm just saying, me, I'll be in my own little bubble.

So, like, the shit that be on the internet, I don't read it.

I don't really be knowing what's going on.

Really to a certain extent.

You certainly have to know what's going on.

I try not to know to a certain extent.

Yeah.

So I could be confident in my answer when I tell him them I do not know.

So I don't have to comment on certain shit.

I do that intentionally.

I try not to know shit.

So you, like,

I guess like, I want to go back to the point of like how your guys' stuff was being consumed.

Because you guys were like 14, 15, right?

You were like growing up in this incredibly violent environment, right?

And then there was an audience that was like

consuming it as in entertainment and media, right?

and like I just want to like

you were saying that you're like not like you weren't aware of that at the time you guys were just in that environment right but like how aware of are you now of like the the like cottage industry surrounding like your guys lives as as children of course I'm very aware man because

for one

I I could have tricked myself like out of everything that I have now like tricked myself out of my freedom out of my life and you know by the grace of God that I actually just you know always been a critical thinker and made the right decisions at certain times where I'm here today because like that's why I'm big on like talking to the youth and talking to the generation under me where it's like you know this shit not really promised you got to really like sacrifice and dedicate a lot of your time and energy into making it out you know like don't feed into the shit that we've known all our lives because it's you feel an obligation in that way in a way yes because i know my role and you know i'm saying what the culture or drill culture was and me being an artist it influenced a lot of kids to do what they seen me doing so i want them to know like all right okay i come from that but i've always had aspirations to get away from it even when i didn't understand like like like how we just said i didn't know that the world was watching me i didn't know that i would really become a superstar but I always wanted more for myself, no matter what it was, no matter if I was going to be a rapper, try to go to the NBA, or even if I would have been in the fucking streets selling drugs, I always would have felt like I needed an exit plan to not be in that shit.

You feel what I'm saying?

So with that being said, like, like I was saying earlier, like, I knew how to rap all my life, bro.

I didn't, like, I could have been trying to be a rapper when I was six, seven years old, my son, age.

Like, my brother, I tell you, I always knew how to play with words.

Yeah, my brother in the crowd.

Amen.

Right there.

I always knew how to play with words and freestyle and joke around the house and be funny and shit like that.

I always knew how to do that, but that wasn't what I was trying to do.

I didn't know I wanted to be a rapper for real until I was 15 years old.

At that point, I was kind of like a grown man.

I was already in the streets, already gang-banging and shit like that and getting into trouble.

I was shot when I was 16 years old.

So you got to think about it.

At 16, people wanted to really literally kill me.

And so you dropped the video after.

Yeah, I came outside the next day.

I ain't no pussy.

Yeah.

Does it hurt really bad?

It burned.

What's the first time you shot a bullet?

I shot a bullet.

Yeah.

Fuck, that's a great question.

It's a very weird way to ask it, but yeah.

Probably like

12, 13.

Oh, Mike.

We used to

shoot at cans and shit in the back of my uncle's house.

It's too loud.

Yeah, you remember we used to shoot at the cans and the bottles and shit in the back of the crib.

I was probably like...

Is that your little brother?

It's my big brother.

He's five.

Big brother.

It's his fault that

you let him do that.

No, it's not his fault.

He's a great guy.

You raised him right.

Nah, we just like shoot at like cans and shit, trying to see if we had aim and shit.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just, I did it once.

I went to a range because I was like, I have to protect my.

My first time ever grabbing a gun, I was like, five, my dad let me grab his pistol when I was a kid.

Your dad let you at five?

I mean, other

kids.

You shouldn't have done that.

These kids in fucking Texas or wherever the fuck they at, they fathers let them go play with rifles and shit at five years old and doing tactical shooting ranges.

Yeah.

Well, my dad can't show me.

My dad, a bad dad, because he can't put a gun in my hand.

Would you let your kid?

Hell yeah.

If it's in a safe environment.

Yes.

I've already put a gun in your son's hand before.

He needs to know what a gun is.

It's dangerous.

Don't play with these.

My son seven.

I didn't already put a gun in his hand before.

It's just, it's very loud.

You know?

Yeah, it's just a little little loud, it's dangerous.

It's not a toy.

Pick it up.

You better know what you're doing.

If you point it at somebody, you better be willing to kill them.

All of that.

You got to talk to your kids like that so they know it's not nothing to play with.

And you know, you got to, like me, I believe in like protecting the fort.

You got to protect the house, protect your family, and know that, you know, like that's our job as a man.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm not telling my son to go be a gangster and go shoot nobody, but a gun is just a tool.

It's only as strong as the person who's holding it.

I would do hand-to-hand combat.

It's more honorable.

Yeah.

You know how to kick ass, too?

No,

I mean, I thought, no.

You mean hand-to-hand combat, like kicking ass?

No, yeah.

I mean, I've never, I've never, I haven't been in a fight.

You've never been in a fight?

Since like my cousin raised my

place,

my mom has never been in a fight either.

My mom has never been in a

thought of like an actual fight with anybody outside of the household besides like a cousin, a sister, or something.

There has to be a guy in BD or GD who's just lost every single fight.

Fuck.

Statistically speaking, there's a guy that's like, oh, for like 350 for sure yeah and he's like the i'm the guy that gets beat up when when there's a fight yeah yeah i'm sure it is that's a drag right being the worst at fighting in chicago yeah i i don't judge a book by its cover i feel like you know how to fight i got funny because i hit puberty late so i had to like get funny to be survival funny guy don't get whooped the funny guy always good to survive i had to like i had to get funny because i was like first of all i got funny i was like what am i gonna do these because because of puberty, right?

Some kids are like 45 years old and you're like, you're at 6 years.

You look six years old.

And I'm like, what am I?

We're the same age.

I was funny too, though.

Like, I was a funny guy.

That's how I got out of trouble, too, when I got in trouble with my parents.

I made jokes.

I did.

Especially with my mom.

I did the same shit, bro.

Like, still, even at 30, I still...

joked to get out of trouble with my mom.

That's how I was able to drop out of school.

That's how I was able to do a lot of shit because I was funny and everybody liked me.

You had bars?

You dropped...

You were funny?

Someone's sleeping?

What the fuck?

Your friend is sleeping.

To his excuse.

What was it?

That's your security guard?

He can't be sleeping on the job.

Yeah, right, right.

That's fucked up, right?

If he wanted to decide to just do some shit to me, he's sleeping.

He can't even protect me.

I would never do anything to you.

To his defense, I must say.

We've been outside having a ball for about...

Three days.

Yeah, three days straight, no sleep.

Where'd you go?

Today,

you want to know what time I got in the house and went to sleep?

Where?

What time?

I got in the house.

I got in the hotel at 9 a.m.

I fell asleep around 9.45, 10.

And what time I had to be at the first stage?

Noon.

You got there at 1?

Oh, that's his publicist who just spoke.

Yeah, yeah.

I got there at 12.40.

Right.

You're an irresponsible gentleman.

Yeah.

So I did.

Where'd you do my eyes at 10 a.m?

And then I got, I woke up around 11, 11.15, got in the shower, left.

What did you do last night?

Where did you go?

Where did we go last night?

I went and got food and I went.

Till 4 a.m.

No, I went and got food.

After we got food, where did we go to the studio, right?

Yeah, I stayed in the studio.

I went to two studios.

So I went to one studio.

We was in there chilling until 4.

Then I left and went and took my girl to the hotel.

And then I went to another studio

until...

8.

8.

8.30.

You went to another studio?

Yeah.

Yeah, I went to another fucking fucking studio.

Yeah, after you dropped your girl off.

Yeah, yeah.

She was tired.

She was asleep, bro.

She couldn't get her.

She could have came to the back of the camera to get back.

Yeah, I went and did a verse.

I made some money.

I made some money.

Yeah, you did a verse.

Came back in with some money.

Yeah.

Either I made some money or what else I'm going to do coming in the house without.

What you think I'm about to slinging dick out of?

Yeah, you're a famous rapper.

You should get girls.

You should get a lot of money.

Like selling it.

Not like the don't like videos.

Like selling it, though.

You're not going to sell.

What are you?

Selling your penis?

What are you talking about?

What?

Sorry.

No, sorry.

We're off to it.

Would you?

Would you, technically?

Sell Sell my penis?

For what?

No one's buying that.

No.

Thousands.

I have to say that.

Somebody call you right now and say, I got 10K.

I want it.

You dropping it off?

Like a beautiful woman?

What?

No, fuck no.

If you're selling it, looks

like it's a big old girl.

Whoever.

No,

I just got engaged to my fiancée.

So I wouldn't want to jeopardize our love.

Even if I could get $10,000 for my penis, if this

is a 300-pound woman once once my penis.

So if she was 200 pounds lighter.

No, I wouldn't prostitute myself.

And neither nor should

anyone.

Yeah, I don't believe it.

It is the oldest profession, but.

It is.

That's what they say.

I don't know.

Are there tourists that go to like Oblock?

Fuck yeah.

There's like German tour groups that are like fish finds that don't want to go to Oblock.

I'm just told them, man, hell no, you ain't going over there.

There's like, there's like a, like a tourist, like Europeans that are like, fishtam da va hundred fish the like wild hundreds.

Yeah, they they they go to over there for sure like you ain't see all the people traveling to go see the king bomb room and shit like that's my son definitely want to go to old block though man.

I told him I ain't gonna take him but I might I might still take him.

I might still take him.

It's cool.

When did you first meet those those boys?

When did you first meet Chief Keefe and stuff?

First time meeting Sosa, I think we was like 15, both of us.

Yeah.

15.

Yeah.

Is he the same age as you?

Yeah, we the same age.

Yep.

Yeah.

And and you were from a you were from the east side though.

Yeah, I'm from the east side.

He from the south side.

He's from Oblock.

And I'm from 79th Street.

But yeah, we got like my best.

So my best friend's name is Wap.

Him and Sosa grew up together.

So he's Italian?

Nope.

Okay, never mind.

He's a WAP.

You're a funny, you're a funny motherfucker, man.

I ain't gonna lie.

I try.

I tried.

You got it.

But yeah, now his name WAP and him and Sosa grew up together.

So like when he moved to my neighborhood, like he grew up in the projects and shit.

Like and you know, he always known Sosa like half his life.

And

when he moved to my neighborhood, of course we got like super close.

It's still my best friend to this day.

So I met Sosa through him, like through him and his brother, Cap, who passed away.

He was also a rapper.

And that's how I met Sosa.

So when I first started to do music and rap,

the studio that he took me to was the same studio Sosa used to record at.

You feel me?

So yeah.

But him and Sosa of course was already like friends and shit.

But he took me like I back go record at this studio and that's how I met.

So he like man you should record over here.

Was it you you guys liked each other when you met?

Yeah for sure yeah.

Me and so we always been like like locked in since the day we met.

Do you consider yourself like on that Mount Rushmore?

Like where it's like I guess

if if if a Jewish guy from Las Vegas Nevada suburban Las Vegas would have to tell you this, it's probably in my mind,

it's Chief Keith, it's King Vaughan, it's Dirk, maybe, and you.

Yeah, for sure.

It sounds like that's right.

I would definitely, yeah, I definitely would put myself on a Mount Rushmore.

And it's like, it's so hard and it's so controversial when you speak of that because it's like so much greatness has come out of Chicago where it's like...

It also influenced

New York, it influenced London.

Yeah, it did.

It definitely.

It's influenced even like, you know, Tokyo got drilled now.

You fuck with them?

You hang out with them?

Yeah, yeah.

I like Tokyo Drill just because I like their swag.

Like, I like how.

They take their shoes off the floor.

Yeah, I like how they carry themselves.

Nah, hell no.

They be fly.

They be on some fly shit.

They be on some fly shit.

That's why I fuck with Tokyo Drill, though.

Like, they on some, like, fly gangster shit.

And I feel like every country always got, like, a...

a ghetto edge like it's shit going on there no matter what.

Yeah.

Have you been there before?

No, I've never been there.

It's like there's there isn't a speck.

You've been to Japan?

Yeah, twice.

There isn't like a speck of dust on the sidewalk.

None.

Yeah,

you don't.

It's really clean.

You don't see it.

It's bizarre.

It's like,

yeah, I think because we dropped two atomic bombs on them, they have like a trauma about it.

So they're super clean.

It's two?

It's all Japanese people.

No, it was two atomic bombs on them.

It was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Or two different

places.

Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty horrific that we did that.

Yeah, it's fucked up.

Yeah.

I mean,

we didn't do it.

I mean, you and I.

We weren't on it.

It's funny that the plane was called the Enola Gay, though.

Pause, that's crazy.

I didn't know that.

So you put me on a lot of shit.

I didn't know about that.

I mean, I knew about a lot of stuff.

I knew about those historic events, of course.

There's a Reddit page I found.

This really made me nauseous.

I don't know if you know about this.

It's called

Shiracology.

Yeah, yeah, I know that page.

It's the guys that are stalking you guys.

It's like

one of them

called...

I want to show these to you.

These are some of the most psychotic posts that I found.

Okay, so this is

this one says, anyone know who this dude is in the back?

It's just like some guy that's...

Let me look a little bit.

Why, like, these are like people trying to spot who the guy in...

That's Smirk.

Well, you know.

I don't know who that is.

I mean, it's a guy in a picture with Chief Keefe 40 feet away.

No, No, this ain't dirt.

Okay.

He didn't have wicks back then.

Here's another one.

Some shirtless pictures of King Vaughan.

Pause.

No, pause.

That's right.

Vaughn's a little stocky.

He did all that fucking shit.

So you like this?

He did all that time.

This would be so annoying if people were posting this stuff about my friends.

Okay.

Shader Archology.

I know this page.

I'm just now.

These people are psychos.

I'm just now catching on already.

Yeah, there's a lot of fucking psychos out here, bro.

Here's the one.

Read this.

Read

this post aloud.

This is crazy.

Read this out loud.

Yeah, yeah.

This is what, like, probably a 14-year-old child in like

a million dollars.

And this is what gets people fucked up when they, when, you know what I'm saying?

When I see this, I'm like.

How can I take driller serious when he came from a loving household?

Dude never struggled a day in his life, ate three meals a day.

I doubt he even know what a bad day is.

Yeah, yeah.

Just because he in a family picture.

Because

some of them,

I mean, like a meme video where niggas was like, like you can't do nothing like you really like in this day and age like even in Chicago or just in this culture you gotta like be homeless and like nobody's gotta love you like they say yeah this nigga was like his parents love niggas was well-minded

his parents loved him like yeah like a 13 year old

thing this nigga had nutrition he had two parents and they loved him

I got so many pictures like this bro but I ain't gonna lie I don't I don't know him him personally yeah but um yeah them some serious them some serious dudes over there what do you make of

like the content creators that have made careers basically off of you guys like academics or vlad or like people that are like people that cover you guys and have like made money off of it

see if i was

If I was the type of nigga that really, I don't give a fuck about that shit, but if I did, I would probably be like, yeah, you know, cut me in or do something.

I feel like all those kind of guys, what they should do is give to

a non-profit organization in Chicago.

That I'm gonna challenge them to do that.

Like, what's that?

Academics Vlad, all you niggas that didn't make money off of culture and people dying and blood shed and shit like that.

Go donate $20,000 or $50,000 to a non-profit organization that focuses on just the betterment of kids.

That's my opinion, personal opinion.

He's He's awake.

Yeah.

What do you make of that guy, Academics?

Academics, he's academics.

Like, I don't.

It's a little bit like his life.

I fuck with him, though.

Like, me and academics, we didn't met, we chopped it up, we done interviews.

But, like, I'm not going to, like, see, me, me and a man, I don't agree with everything he does.

And that's okay.

You could agree to disagree.

You feel what I'm saying?

But, like, he just academics, bro.

You don't think of being an adult man as a man?

And he's like, an adult man as a man is certain shit you shouldn't do and you shouldn't say that.

Well, he's just giving it, he's like, my liege, my sword.

He's like, he's just sucking up to other men.

It's kind of a crazy life.

It's like he, and I'm going to say this and I'm going to just leave it at that.

Like, he pick and choose when he want to be like.

a real nigga or aggressor or say certain shit that's just like your moral code should never allow you to say.

You can't pick and choose like on Wednesday I'm going to say some shit that's super outrageous.

Then Thursday I'm like a real nigga like or I'm cool or I fuck, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't do that because, as a man, you got to be held accountable for what you say.

So, in certain situations, if somebody holds you accountable for that, you got to accept what come with that accountability.

You feel what I'm saying?

You can't just shoot it away from it.

Do no other shit.

Like, yeah.

And I'm glad you're saying this.

I'm not saying it.

Yeah.

Anyway, enough of that.

Academics, you're unnoticed.

You owe $100,000 to what organization?

Any organization.

You pick one, man.

$100, because you done made so much money off this shit.

Y'all go donate $100,000.

$100.

And write that shit off on y'all's taxes, bro.

And if you don't,

that's...

Yeah, what?

Say it.

Land a plane.

Land a plane.

Academics, you're a real bitch.

And if you have problems, you can take it up on the Adam Friedland show and DJ Academics.

I will sit down with you in the most intellectual style publication.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I don't even need you.

That is one I feel like I can handle

I can handle that one.

All right, sorry.

Thank you so much.

And he agrees with everything I just said.

And thank you.

Do you feel like with as much life experience as you've had, do you feel like older than 29?

You're probably 65 years old.

Yeah, and in trenches years.

I'm 65 for sure.

I grew up early, bro, and I had a lot of responsibility on me at a young age because I thought it was the way to go.

Like when you when you grow up early,

you feel like you're a man.

So at like

15, 16 years old, I felt like I was a man and I held with people.

I mean, I hung out with people that was older than me.

You feel what I'm saying?

I get a lot of like my influence and shit.

Like I keep mentioning my brother.

Like I hung with him my entire life.

He's five years older than me.

So he was already doing certain shit and like, you know what I'm saying, inner things that I wanted to be into early on.

You feel me?

So I always thought like I was a man.

Like I hung out with older people.

I dropped out of school early.

By the time I was 16, I was paying like all the bills in my house.

Like literally, like paying my mama bills, paying doing shit for my aunties, you know, like just doing so much shit where it's like I was taking care of my friends.

families and shit like that, you feel me?

And I was in the streets for real.

So you got to think about it.

Like I was losing a lot of my homies.

My homies dying.

I'm 15, 16, 17 years old.

I'm covering the whole funeral cost.

You feel me?

Like doing shit like that at an early age.

It put a lot on you.

It take a toll and it never stopped.

So like I said, when I got shot, I was back outside.

My homies got killed.

I'm back outside.

So it was never ending.

You feel what I'm saying?

Like I never got a time to like, you know, like get that trauma off of me.

Like talk to somebody.

Like even when I started doing therapy when I was in my 20s and shit, like I was four or five years behind.

Like in certain like, you know, communities and cultures, like if you go see somebody fucking getting a fight, you're going to therapy.

Like, you feel what I'm saying?

One traumatic event, you go to therapy.

Not you.

I got no problems.

No, okay.

A lot of therapy.

Actually,

a lot of therapy.

I've gotten through a lot of stuff.

When have you, when was your first therapy session?

What age?

32.

32.

And then I got through the breakup.

And then my mother passed away.

Cancer.

Okay.

And that really got me through.

You're a therapy of loss.

Yeah.

So you was going through the breakup and you started therapy.

But then the mom died and you don't care about the breakup.

You know?

Yeah.

And then

basically he was like, you graduated.

You should be the therapist.

You're one of the smartest guys I've ever met.

This is true.

Your therapist said that.

No.

You're healed.

You're healed.

Get the fuck on.

But no, I'm saying all that to say, see, look, bro, I can't listen to you all the time.

No, no, what I mean is like I was going through a tough time because my mom had cancer, so I started doing therapy and then I went through a breakup during that time.

During that time.

During that time.

It's useful.

You know what it is?

It's more like you talk about your week and all the things you think that you're like,

I do things that I'm like, you're the worst guy in the world, right?

You suck.

And then I say it, and I'm like,

it's kind of a normal thing.

It's kind of a normal thing.

I'm so glad I'm talking to you.

We saying that.

It's like a therapy session in a way.

When you're saying that, like, so basically, you might go through some personal shit and a traumatic event make you feel like it's not so bad.

Like, it's cool.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

You might lose a friend or you might lose a girlfriend or some shit.

And that's somebody that's like, see, me technically, and I'm going to be completely honest.

Like, I had this problem bad coming up.

I've lost so many people that have like.

Physically died, you know what I'm saying?

That's not here anymore where it's like, I don't really care about losing friends.

That's why it's embarrassing for me to talk to therapy, talk about therapy to you.

Yeah, or lose.

Because you're from hell.

Shit like that.

You feel what I'm saying?

Yeah.

From hell is crazy.

I i mean it's crazy you're from like you were in a war zone as a child and then i'm like and then my girlfriend cheated on me and would you believe it she cheated on me and it's just like it's like that's a little bit embarrassing for on my end but the thing is like see this what the fact that you're being nice to me right now makes me thank god i fuck with you you could really just kill my ass on all of this no no and then your girlfriend and then your girlfriend cheated on you but the thing is like but the thing is bro that what makes us so different is like we're the same everybody going through this shit.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, we are the same.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The thing is,

the thing is, like, everybody going through the same shit, so you really don't have time to process your thoughts and your emotions.

Like, you might be going through a traumatic event where like your best friend died, or your brother died, or your mom died, or your dad died.

Somebody else is going through the exact same thing right next to you.

So it's like you trying to be there for somebody, you trying to grieve your own way, and then you're trying to get up and strive to do something the next day.

And the next day, something else happened.

You feel what I'm saying?

Like, and the next day, something else happened.

And the next day, something else happened.

So if we don't have the proper, like, and this is me being on some real shit, if we don't have the proper resources and tools to like get help or talk to somebody or have therapy and shit like that, you'll never get over it.

You'll just be carrying that trauma.

And that's why everybody walk around angry.

That's why niggas mad.

Like, as soon as you step on a nigga's shoe, he's ready to kill you.

I would kill you if you did.

I would have no choice.

Those shoes?

No, sorry.

I was just kidding.

No, these shoes.

Those shoes ain't name.

Shuffle, bro.

What you're saying is

what you're saying is like, yeah, what you realize is like if you're responding to a situation that's just a sad situation, you're not necessarily clinically depressed.

You know what I mean?

You're a human being.

You're a human being.

You're responding honestly to a stimulus,

you know, something that's inspiring that kind of emotion.

And it's like, it's an easier way to like kind of like, it's more of a, like, a practical thing to like.

So let me ask you a process.

Yes.

As a 30-year-old, 38-year-old man,

what's your, what's like, what's your breaking point?

Like, what gets your blood boiling like when some shit happens?

Me?

Yes.

What pisses you off the most

that you experience on a day-to-day basis?

Like, shit that just make you mad?

Like, get the fuck away from me.

What gets me mad?

You know, like, not a l you know,

I like, I'm kind of lucky.

Yeah.

I don't like

like you know what it is it's like if you don't have money right my parents like had trouble with money growing up and that living where you're constantly stressed about money it consumes you right and I was broke as shit like for most of my adult life and then I started being able to like subsist and then not have to worry about money and it's a different life and that's that's kind of what I think when i made that joke about you guys should steal from my ex-girlfriend's family which you should you didn't say her you didn't i said directly her you know why you know why i broke up you said she lived in that area you said go steal from northern the northern uh the suburbs you should be stealing from them no i broke up with her actually because uh because i went back for christmas with her it was like my first christmas i was like so hyped i was and she said um i met her people her friends and she said um she said the word she said black.

She said the only black kids in our high school were Lovey Smith.

Lovey Smith, the coach of the Bears kids.

But

the way she said bliak, I was like, I felt like I should.

Can I ask you, okay, I want to ask you about a little bit about like

there's this like urban legend that Jordan like went to the hood and and lost a hundred grand in a dice game more than a hundred.

Probably lost a couple.

Is that real?

Me growing up, I really personally, it's an urban legend, but I believe it.

100% it happened.

A guy from our neighborhood, or he used to be in our neighborhood, and this is crazy.

I can't even disclose too much information because they're going to know what I'm talking about.

Lil Bibby.

No, fuck no.

A guy from our neighborhood, he...

Like he was like a nigga that just got money and shit like that and you know did what he did did.

They said

he won a million from Jordan.

Like, gambling, shooting dice.

He was on the Bulls?

Shooting dice.

No, fuck no.

He was a street nigga.

No, but Jordan was just on the bus.

Jordan was on the Bulls.

Jordan was either on the Bulls or on the Wizards or just getting out the league.

Either way, he was Michael Jordan, rich as fuck, and he's just gambling, shooting dice.

And he lost a million dollars to this guy.

I swear to God.

There's no way he's.

That was like something that I've been doing here in the office.

There's no way he paid.

He didn't pay.

No, that's what I'm saying.

He owed.

He probably gave them like $200,000 that night.

That's right.

And owed them $700,000.

Michael Jordan, DJ Academics, you're on notice.

You owe this guy

this gentleman.

We're not going to say his name, but you know what?

For sure, for sure.

Yeah.

I think he owed them over $500,000.

Like, he probably gave them $200, $300,000

that night and never gave him the rest of the money.

I watched your drink, Champs.

And first off, I want to say there's like a moment at the end where Noriega gives you your flowers that it's very beautiful.

Because it's like, even if

like even if the the the heads aren't saying it to you like we all know you're amazing and that's an amazing thing to say i appreciate that bro okay but then they did this game with the shots right so i wanted to do my version of it let's do it where what what was the game

left the 1942 i don't remember the game because i was fucked up on drink champ I know you were.

I got drunk as a motherfucker.

Okay, so I'm going to do it.

So it's one or the other, or take a shot.

And if it's a tie, it's take a shot.

I bet.

Okay.

So we're gonna go, we're gonna do it.

This is the Adam Free Lunch Show version

of something that

before you start.

Let me just pour my shot.

Oh my god, this is, I'm already drunk.

Should we go to the shop?

So I gotta pour yours as well.

Yeah, of course.

I'm gonna go like this.

Oh, yeah.

So, no, because they take a shot with me when I do it.

I'll do anything you ask me to.

Okay.

All right.

Let's start.

Okay, Tupac or Big.

Yo.

I said pause.

Yo.

What do you mean, pause?

I'm not gay.

I'm not with that gay shit.

How are you going to bring this guy disrespecting me in my own office in a building?

He's from New York, though.

Where are you from?

I'm Fort Greene, Brooklyn, sir.

Have you been to the Farmer's Market?

Have you been to the Farmer's Market on a Saturday morning with your slouchy outfit with your girlfriend just relaxing?

It's a nice Saturday morning.

You're from B?

I'm from the Bronx.

He's from the Bronx, TXBX.

Oh, I have a lot of respect for Uptown the Bronx.

Yeah.

Do you like hookah?

No.

Don't smoke hookah.

That's dykeman shit.

That's dykeman.

It's weird.

The Dominicans really like hookah.

Mm-hmm.

But it's a Middle East sort of thing, but the Dominicans like it?

And they're wearing girls' jeans and they're doing hookah.

I don't got no problem with hookah.

I just feel like

it's for the bitches.

It's for women.

It's for Jewish kids doing your summer tour of Israel.

I'm gonna look at the camera.

I ain't gonna say my cousin ain't a cuz.

Put that hookah down.

Yeah, cuz.

Put the hookah down.

It's gonna destroy your life.

Okay.

It does.

Put that motherfucker down.

All right, let's do the classic, the Tupac or Biggie.

Tupac or Biggie?

Yeah.

Tupac.

Really?

Really?

I'm gonna go Tupac.

Okay.

I've always been a pop catalyst.

All right, Atlanta, Gucci or Jeezy?

WAP.

I'm going Gucci.

All right.

I agree.

But Jeezy, actually, what a ledge.

Jeezy, that's it.

I'm going WAP, dude.

The two songs with Kanye.

The two songs with Kanye?

The Kanye versus.

It's monumental.

The Kanye verse on put on is the funniest thing.

The TN101.

The Kanye verse on put on is the funniest thing ever.

You could tell Amber Rose just destroyed his life, and he's like, I put on for the bitches that owe me sex.

The way he's like, owe me sex.

Like, I've earned this sex, ma'am.

Ma'am, you owe me.

What the fuck is wrong with this nigga?

I'm a genius.

I love it.

Hey, bro.

All right, bro.

I'm going to go Gucci, though.

I'm just like, of course, everything, like, my whole, like, my up.

upbringing.

Have you met him?

He's the coolest guy.

Yeah, of course.

Of course, I met WAP a hundred times.

He fell asleep like this guy, or no?

Nah, he's away.

Yeah.

The whole upbringing.

Just like, yeah, like, I don't know.

Just my whole upbringing was Gucci.

My homie G.

Fazo, his favorite rapper was Gucci Mane.

Like, that's how I really got up on Gucci lyrics.

So the Chicago guys were like listening.

Yeah, that's right.

My homie G.

Fazo, he died.

Fazon died in 2010.

I'm sorry.

His favorite rapper was Gucci Mane.

Yeah.

I don't give a fuck who your favorite rapper was.

All he wanted to, he was Gucci.

Yeah.

You feel me?

So, like, yeah, I got like a different type of.

All right.

Jay Diller Mad Lib.

Or is that a white question?

I'm taking shots already before I even answer the question.

Because you're having a great time.

That was a white question.

Yeah, it was a white question.

They're incredible, though.

I don't...

Hey, don't kill me, nobody.

Who are those?

Who are they?

Who are they?

Well, let me tell you about hip-hop culture.

Okay.

Herb, let me explain to you.

No, they're like two incredible.

What do they do, though?

They're two of the best producers ever.

Okay, wait, say the names again?

Jay Dilla or Madlib.

What did they say?

You know Quasimodo?

You know Quasimoto?

Mad Villainy?

Of course, yeah.

Quasimodo is Mad Lib.

Oh, okay.

With his voice pitched up.

Okay, I'm going to go Mad Lib then.

I know Quasimilly.

It's the right answer.

It's the right answer.

Dilla died, and it's very sad, but it's the right answer.

I'm going to go Mad Library.

Just because you're dead, it doesn't mean you win.

Dilla was also an incredible person.

I'm sorry that I said that.

I'm sorry I said that.

Okay, I don't know if you'll know these guys.

You're a great person, though, but you're fucked up.

I'm not fucked up.

You're fucked up.

You're fucked up in the head.

You're one of the most fucked up guys ever.

You're fucked up.

Okay.

You might not know these guys, actually.

This might be a white question.

This actually is a white question.

Okay.

And it's going to be funny when I say what the question is.

My mom liked borderline white.

My mom liked blackish, whitish.

She worked at Marshall Fields for like 15 years.

What's that?

You know know what Marshall Fields is?

I know.

Marshalls.

Marshall Fields was Macy's before it turned into Macy's.

Oh my god, my mom took me to Macy's so much.

Before Thanksgiving.

So it was before it became Macy's.

You remember Marshall Fields?

It's a like a

park called Marshall Fields.

It was a Marshall Fields here, one in New York.

It was called Marshall Fields before Macy's.

Marshall Fields wasn't as popular.

Macy's got like super big.

So it's like a competitor.

She was still working there when it became.

Yeah, I think Macy's bought Marshall Fields.

when college dropout dropped the polo

aspect of it was so meaningful.

Yeah, because my mom would take me to Macy's to get a polo

and I'm like now there's a wrap.

They had it at Marshall Fields.

Like I grew up like when I was on my like fashion shit and shit like

I used to get my clothes from when my mom worked Marshall Fields.

That's why I'm so big on cologne.

Like I'm a big cologne connoisseur.

Really?

Because my mom worked in the fragrance department at Marshall Fields.

What's your favorite?

My favorite cologne, probably

Creed is my all-time favorite.

Creed?

Yeah, I love the way Creed smell.

You know what Creed is, bro.

I know the band.

Fuck out of here.

You know Creed.

With arms, why do we open?

MFK.

I like MFK.

Machine Gun Kelly?

MFK.

I know.

I was just thinking.

All right.

This is a white question.

Kendrake or Drake?

That's not a fucking white question.

Well, we got really into that.

We were like, yes, it's true.

Drake is not like us.

That was disgusting to me.

Wait, hold on, go back, go back, go back.

The way that fat white men in their 40s with beards reacted to the beef made me very uncomfortable.

If you understand what I'm saying.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

I get what you're saying.

It's like a little bit like, it was like, it's not for, it wasn't for.

As far as the reaction.

It wasn't for girls.

The beef wasn't for girls.

It was for fat 40-year-old white men, kind of.

Yeah.

And Joe Budden kind of people.

I'm going to say this.

i'm gonna chime in and say beef is never for girls girls never get in the beef they don't give a fuck about that like yeah they care about mud yeah yeah yeah

yeah all they especially if two niggas in the beef with money they're never picking like i'll sit i'll wait till somebody

wait till that shit die down i'm waiting somebody

come yeah

wait and see wait so say it drake you're say drake i'm saying shot I'm just gonna take my shit.

Come on, dude.

It's anti-Semitism, the way he was treated.

Just take my shot, bro let me explain to you you can never feel bad for a blade he's like blade

he's like a jewish guy that was allowed to be the biggest rapper in the world blade who's blade blade the movie movie blade yeah yeah wesley snipes is half all right explain it how the fuck do you explain it wesley snipes is a vampire that could also be in the in the daylight

okay for me it's like drake is a jewish guy that's also allowed to be the most famous rapper in the world and it meant so much to me he's the blade of us

And I was like, just, I.

Drake Jewish?

Of course he is.

Oh.

He never told you?

It's fire.

Why would he not tell you that?

That's fire.

You were friendly with him?

Yeah, it's my dog.

He's the best.

You were listening to his song the other day on Instagram.

Yes, bro.

Come on, bro.

It's fucking Drake.

We love him so much.

Be for real, bro.

Like, Drake's one of the first niggas to support me, though, for real.

Like, Drake.

He put you on?

He ain't put me on.

Fuck no.

No.

But yeah, Drake, like, you know, he showed love.

He showed love in 2012, 2013.

What a good guy, right, guys?

For sure.

What a great guy.

For sure.

And please, Drake, do you have his number?

You call him.

Just give me his number.

I'll call him over here.

I thought you had his number, bro.

I thought y'all was like, you know, like.

No, I don't see him at the meetings for Jewish people.

Now, I'm going to say that this might be unpopular.

Like, you know, Yay said that all Jewish people.

No, that was the last question.

He said, y'all got a group chat.

Y'all got each other's number.

You just killed me.

Every Jewish Jewish person.

You just killed this entire bit that I got.

Every Jewish person in Kahoon.

Let's continue.

Let's continue.

That's what Yay said.

Your necklace just fell off.

Damn, this motherfucker fake.

Then it just fell off.

Okay.

Let's continue.

UGK or 3-6?

3-6 Mafia.

Incredible.

Incredible.

How good.

So good.

3.6 Mafia.

There's a lot of that in Chicago drills.

Yeah.

I'm going to go 3.6.

There's a lot of the chaos.

I'm going to go 3.6.

Okay, look, so look.

So, you remember, you just said that I smoked my first bun at six years old, right?

I was listening to 3.6 Mafia.

You were, yeah, you were listening to Sipping on Some Scissor.

I was listening to,

I don't even know what song I was listening to, but I'll put your D in her mouth.

I'm 100% sure was listening to Project Pat and Juicy J.

You were listening to put your D in her mouth, give me head to La Dig, put your D in her mouth, give me head to La Dig.

Oh, god,

let me tell you something.

Let me tell you something.

This girl was talking about dicks so good the other day.

It's so embarrassing.

I just did that.

Can you guys all forget it?

And we're drunk and you're watching us.

I don't like being judged.

You're all judging us.

You fell asleep on the job as a security officer.

I'm just deflected.

He's back to sleep.

How much time do we have?

Okay, let's wrap it up.

Beatles are the rolling.

Rolling stones.

Beatles are the rolling stones.

We're not even playing the game.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to go

Beatles.

I'll fuck with it.

I can't.

That, for me, is shot.

It's actually Beatles.

I'm going to go Beatles.

I'm going to go Beatles.

Just because

I had heard the Beatles too much and growing up.

I'm a queen type of guy.

Queen is like one of my favorites.

What the fuck is Paul's about that?

No one laughed.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

No one laughed.

For me saying I'm a queen type of guy, you said pause.

I'm just kidding.

Hey, that was hard, though.

I love Queen.

Okay.

You love Queen?

The pull-out method or moving to a new city?

The pull-out method or moving to a new city?

Yeah.

New city.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

You impregnate, you just go to, you disappear.

Move to Mexico.

Okay.

Pakistan or

Pakistan or India?

Pakistan or India?

Yeah, who are you going with?

Who are you riding with?

Or is that a shot?

Is that like some controversial shit before I go?

No, no, it's not controversial at all.

Okay.

Pakistan or India,

i'm gonna go pakistan okay uh hallie berry or mayor lori lightfoot lori lightfoot really she done did a lot for you know the city and me like we got you met you met mayor lori yes we had a real meeting like a sit-down in her office like she's so wow yeah that's your friend yeah i would rather sleep with hallie berry than her but it's close me too okay world war ii or u.s civil war better what's the better war world war ii u.s civil dude U.S.

Civil War?

What the fuck is the U.S.

Civil War?

I've never heard of that.

The North fought the South.

There was slavery.

The U.S.

Civil War.

Oh,

to get out of slavery.

Yeah, the Confederacy.

Right.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nat Turner was a part of that war, right?

No, he did the rebellion.

That was before, after.

That was before, yeah.

That was before.

That guy, he's in Africa.

That kind of introduced world,

the U.S.

Civil War, though.

No, the Civil War.

So U.S.

Civil War was like North Virginia versus South Virginia, all of that shit.

South Virginia?

South Virginia his slaves, North Virginia, didn't.

South Virginia is a lot of place, dude.

South Virginia was a place before.

West Virginia.

No, it was North Virginia and South Virginia before the Civil War.

I'm pretty sure.

Did you know that?

You don't have to lie.

We got to Google it.

We got to figure this shit out real quick before it's time to go.

Yay.

Because now you got me feeling like I'm tripping, bro.

Yay, or the Jewish people?

The Jewish people.

Thank you.

Wait, could you do like an OG call?

Jewish people.

Could you do an OG call and me and him could be a good one?

You might fuck up my relationship with him, though.

I would squash.

First of all, I would make it stronger.

Second of all, I could squash it.

We could do a benefit concert like him and Drake.

They did that already.

Yeah, but him and I would do one for Harvey Weinstein or something.

They did it for Larry Hoover.

I know.

I would do it for a Jewish

prisoner, political prisoner.

Because they want us to go?

Bro, he's different.

What does different mean?

You're just different.

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What was the motivating factor in getting out

of the environment you were in?

The motivating factor?

What was the one thing that did it?

And then

do you have a concept of the people that are still there?

And like how much do you think of the people that are still there?

Yeah.

I got, I have,

I'm, I think just me being who I am, I'm going to always have survivor's guilt.

Like, no matter how, like, mature or how much I understand

life and just like that you can't save anybody.

Yeah.

Like, like, everybody, I mean, not anybody, everybody.

I think I'm going to just always have that, just knowing where I come from and wanting better for the people that I love.

Because it's certain people, like,

and like coming from my neighborhood and in my environment that just like...

I'm always wanting to make it out.

And for example, like, this is a sensitive subject.

So, like,

the artist Mello Bucks, like, you know, we in Bennis,

she just hit

an album release where it was like a mass shooting.

Four people got killed,

15 other people got shot.

It was probably like

majority women, 10 women, like shit like that.

It always just, like, it's a sensitive, a very sensitive subject.

You know what I'm saying?

And like, and some of the people that got, that, that were, like, killed, I have like personal relationships with, like, my homie his name like Lil Rock who I rapped about he tattooed on me like he was one of the first people that I that I lost like coming up you know what I'm saying like from my neighborhood and his little brother was just killed as a part of that mass shooting so like it's just a different type of feel to no matter where I'm at in the world I could have been anywhere and that shit has still like touched me and do certain shit to me so I'm gonna always have survivors guilt because that shit is going on that's why it's important for me to like try to like break the cycle and just try to help in any way possible that I can.

That's why I'm saying shit like that to like academics, Vlad, shit like that, to just try to get back to the city and people who actively help in the city.

That's why I fuck with like out of the trenches.

That's why I fuck with Golden Chow.

That's why I fuck with the people who actually trying to make a difference in Chicago.

You know what I'm saying?

And like

for me, it's like I've always

Always been that kind of guy.

Like I always been a guy that that wanted more.

You know what I'm saying?

That wanted more for myself you feel I'm saying

like the first question that you asked what is the first person you because I want to like I just feel like what what was the motive like when were you like I gotta go exactly because it's like there's an there's that's what I wanted to ask there was like um

one thing that before you came I wanted to avoid is like Just like a freaking middle-class white guy being like, can we fix Chicago?

Can we fix Chicago?

No, I don't want to be that guy.

But the question is, because you're a

you were a guy that was in an environment and you saved your life, right?

And so it's like saying to some guy that was in Vietnam,

what are you doing for the guys that are still at the war in Vietnam?

So

it just has to be something or somebody that wants to make a difference.

If there's a will, there's a way.

I feel like anything can be fixed.

Anything broken can be fixed.

That's a crazy question.

Can we fix it?

Of course, yes.

Yes, you can fix Chicago.

And the way is resources, money.

Like, I come from the trenches.

I come from the streets.

I come from poverty.

I've seen bloodshed.

I know what it's like to lose somebody.

I know what all of that shit is like.

If you put resources into the streets, like when I started to get money and I had things to live for, that was my changing factor.

Like, for me, that's why I wanted to go back and answer that question because I felt like it was a part of that that I didn't answer.

And that was the changing factor with me was having my first kid.

having a child.

You feel I'm saying like that made me like not want to even give a fuck about nothing else.

Nothing else mattered to me once I had a kid like because I was still that guy like even when I was leaving the streets or still trying to be one foot in one foot out and you try to like you know I'm saying like appeal and applease to other people but once I had a

human that was on this earth because of me I don't give a fuck about how the next person do this or do that or do this even though I do like I just said I do have survivors guilt but that's not my responsibility my only responsibility is making sure my kids live a successful life and could do whatever they want to do.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, live a long life, live a successful life, and have the resources to be great.

I'm always going to remember where I come from.

And that's what I was saying, going back to like my son said he wanted to go to Oblock.

Like, you think I don't know niggas in Oblock?

I could call and be like, my son wants to see this shit.

Like, why the fuck would I put my son in an environment where he could lose his life or something happen?

And he's a trabacitor.

He's from Beverly Hills.

No, my son, he was born in Chicago, but he moved.

He didn't even spend a whole year in Chicago.

My other two kids are from Bel Air.

Not even Beverly Air.

They were born in Bel Air.

Yeah.

But do you think, you think they're like they're little Bel Air kids?

You think, like,

all my kids are.

You think they even

respect their dad?

Nope.

Do you like, you see your boys and you're like, you're little softies.

Fuck no.

Hell no.

No, my kids ain't soft at all.

Like, especially Essence, like, he's super.

He's back asleep.

Yeah, he's snoring again.

I heard him.

For sure.

What's his name?

No, we can't say it's not you.

No, it's not safe.

No, no.

James Bond.

Fucker.

Herb.

Fucker.

That's his name.

Fucker.

Herb.

Give it up, Herb, guys.

Everybody.

For sure.

I had a lot of fun.

Woo is crazy.