TCB Infomercial: Donnell Rawlings

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Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

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I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Kristen Joy Hoadley.
Best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian.

Speaker 2 Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on a TCB Infomercial Tuesday with Donnell Rawlings.

Speaker 2 I mean, a generational comic, a guy who only comes around once in a generation.

Speaker 3 That's his body of work.

Speaker 2 His body and his body of work.

Speaker 2 Lists of pages and pages and pages.

Speaker 2 Actor, Heckler, former Air Force Police Sergeant.

Speaker 2 Comics, stand-up comedy, all the things. The Chappelle Show.
The Wire. The Wire, yep.

Speaker 2 The Corner, which I never heard about until Chrissy started talking about, but we'll talk to him about that if we get into it.

Speaker 2 And stand-up comic. He's currently out there on the road.
He's got a brand new special links in the show notes. Donnell has been on the Chappelle show.
I'm rich, bitch. Yep.
That's his tagline.

Speaker 2 You all know it. Ashy Larry.
Ashy Larry. Ashy Larry.
He was Ashy Larry. He was all the things.

Speaker 2 I mean, the guy is like, quite frankly, I'm a little, I got goosebumps that even Donnell even agreed to come on the commercial, right?

Speaker 2 Clearly, this is a mistake, and we better do it quickly before he changes his mind. And we'll talk to Donnell about all of those things.
Can't wait. I actually saw Donnell was with Joe List,

Speaker 2 Rory Scoville

Speaker 2 Mark Normand and that guy who plays dr. Phil worse than I do I play Dr.
Phil much better than he does but you know he's made a

Speaker 2 comedy yep Adam Ray comedy on Instagram if you want to follow him he's become dr phil he's had dr phil on the dr phil

Speaker 2 show yes he has that's funny he plays dr phil he has a you know he puts on a bald cap and a mustache and he does a really good dr phil impression and he's become this character and he's selling out theaters being Dr.

Speaker 2 Phil, essentially. The comic Dr.
Phil, obviously. But he had Dr.
Phil on the Dr. Phil show.
Lots of other famous people have showed up. He is like an offshoot of Kill Tony.

Speaker 2 Want to ask Donnell about Kill Tony because there was a dust up online at some point about Kill Tony. We'll ask him about that.

Speaker 2 And what exactly the drama is there? We're not a drama show, but we should ask him, Chrissy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we should scratch the edge.

Speaker 2 We should scratch the surface. We'll scratch the surface.
We'll get into clickbait real quick and then we'll dive out. We'll go in and then we'll get out.
Yeah, real quick.

Speaker 2 But Donnell Rawlings can be found online.

Speaker 2 He's got a huge body of work, as Chrissy said, on YouTube, on Netflix, on Hulu, on all these different places because he's been in so many different shows, most notably The Chappelle show, but not too far below that, The Wire, which is one of the greatest television shows.

Speaker 4 On any critics list you look at at all, The Wire is either, if not number one, definitely in the top five.

Speaker 2 Rightfully so. So good.
Rightfully so. Such a good show.
Yeah. If you haven't seen The Wire, you are 10 years too late to catch on to it when it was hot.
But go watch it because as Chrissy said, any.

Speaker 5 I actually watched it after it was already done.

Speaker 4 Me too.

Speaker 2 Many years after it was done. I watched it during the pandemic.
I think I did too. Yeah, like at the beginning of the pandemic, I started watching it and blew through it.

Speaker 2 God, I know you're addicted right away.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was watching episodes and episodes per day because I just couldn't get away from this fascinating world that they had created. And Donnell was part of that.

Speaker 2 And I'm very interested to know how and why he got, you know, got the part.

Speaker 2 And my understanding is that Donnell actually started in comedy because he was heckling

Speaker 2 people.

Speaker 2 And he became such a good heckler that they said, you should be on stage, dude. If you're going to heckle all the other comedians, why don't you try it yourself? And he did.
And it took off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And 30 years later, Donnell is a name not to be missed when he comes close to your town. So let's do this.
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Speaker 2 And then through the magic of telepodcasting, Donnell Rawlings, legend Donnell Rawlings, right here on Little Old Commercial Break for your earballs. Okay, sound good? Let's do it.

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Donnell, thanks so much for being here today. Really appreciate it.
You are a former military guy, right? Yeah, Air Force.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I have a question that's timely and topical.

Speaker 1 Okay. You are in Los Angeles right now.

Speaker 2 We're just talking about this.

Speaker 2 We have friends that are out there and our agents out there and they're largely noticing nothing because I think this kind of drama that's going on with the National Guard and the Marines is all happening in just a few pockets of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 Obviously, not everybody's down in those pockets, but how,

Speaker 2 what's your take on if you were in the military and being deployed into the U.S. cities? Do you,

Speaker 2 I'm thinking about like from a soldier's point of view, is it just about ordering?

Speaker 1 Let me let me stop you for really quick.

Speaker 1 I was in the military, but I wasn't patriotic, okay?

Speaker 2 That's my question.

Speaker 1 There you go. You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 1 I'll just put it, I'll be honest. Black folks and white folks go to military for two different reasons.
You ask a white guy why you joined the military to protect my country and its honor.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 You asked a black guy, GIBL, college. I was on the basketball team.
They told me I was going to be a general in three weeks and I was going to have my own private jet.

Speaker 1 When people come up to me, they're like, thank you. Thank you for protecting me and keeping me safe.
I got to be honest. Everybody's listening.
I did my time.

Speaker 1 If you would have expected me, future comedian, to protect you or keep you safe, you better off committing suicide because if I get shot, everybody around me is getting shot.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fair enough. I feel for the soldiers, man, because, you know,

Speaker 2 I got to imagine a lot of them are in the same mindset that you are. I am here for a J-O-B to get a college education to, you know, feed my family, whatever it is.
I am not here for all the drama.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it's a great sacrifice that you make because essentially you say, hey, if we go to war, I'm going to put myself in front of a bullet. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm going to add to that. This is why I know I wouldn't have been able to save any lives.
When I was in the military, I was stationed in Kunsan, Korea, right?

Speaker 1 And we had nuclear weapons on that building. So we have what they call it, exercise.
Exercise is when you practice if the base is going to come under attack, how you protect the base and everything.

Speaker 1 So it's like a simulated war. And this is why I know I wouldn't have been able to help anybody because every time we did an exercise, I died died within the first minutes of the war.
I was dead.

Speaker 1 And the reason why I died, because when you get, when they shoot you, they got the mouths get peeped, your stuff go off. So you got to, you got to lay on the field.

Speaker 1 And then they got to simulate what would the.

Speaker 1 uh response team do so they got to actually come and take you off the field but when they take you off the field you know where they take you they take you to the basketball gymnasium so needless to say in all these war efforts all the black guys were in the gym talking about money.

Speaker 1 And those white dudes had their face painted up, like, be quiet. They're going to know what we are.
Local, local.

Speaker 1 We was in there like, we was like, I got next. Who got next? So, I mean, you might want to talk to somebody else.

Speaker 1 I do respect what the military did for me as far as the transition from not exactly knowing what I want to do in my life, but I got to be honest. I'm not going to lie to anybody.

Speaker 1 I wasn't like, God bless America. You know, I was like, God bless this job.
Right. And the opportunity it gave me.
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2 You've been doing this a long time. I saw a reel a couple days ago.
I was looking at your Instagram and I saw a reel where two dudes just started smashing each other in the fucking

Speaker 1 in the in the front row or like in the second row of uh you're at the improv you know what's going on this is why you're full of shit okay

Speaker 1 it's because out of all the videos i got videos of my son, and you just as guilty as everybody could have done it. I got some stuff like this.
Oh my God, he's such a great dad.

Speaker 1 And guess what you asked me? What happened at your fucking show? They going crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, hey, I'll get you your son too, because I like what you have to say about being a parent.

Speaker 1 Well, I will say this. It was interesting because I was at Arlington Improv and I don't want to throw any shade on the club.
It just was one of those nights. I don't know how often it happens there.

Speaker 1 But I was starting off my show.

Speaker 1 i'm usually like a firecracker right out the gate bam bam bam yeah but for some reason i hadn't connected with the audience yet right so i kind of felt the room it felt somewhat uneasy and i saw a couple people get up and i was get ready start roasting them i'm like this all right you can't give me

Speaker 1 get my stuff together and next thing you know

Speaker 1 it went crazy

Speaker 1 but and i've seen some interesting stuff but you know even with that said it was an opportunity uh i could have been like guess who gets off work early early today?

Speaker 1 Yeah, guess who's going home right now? I'm like, you know, Chuck's going to be the same. But then I kind of felt sorry because a situation like that for the club, because it's an opportunity.

Speaker 1 for the audience just to leave without paying their tabs. You know,

Speaker 1 I've been to some similar situations like that where I was at a club and they had a blackout and I had to do 45 minutes in the dark with no microphone or anything.

Speaker 1 I told people to put their lights on their phone just so they could illuminate the room, just so the club had an opportunity to make money. So I did that part.

Speaker 1 But the first thing I did when it happened, I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah. And I'm thinking, what can you do? What do we need right now?

Speaker 1 And then I kind of drew from one of my favorite songs,

Speaker 1 Bill Withers. I started saying, some

Speaker 1 time's in on a lot.

Speaker 1 We all had paid.

Speaker 1 And the funny thing about it was

Speaker 1 a group of women just jumped.

Speaker 1 just jumped behind me on stage. I saw that.
Yeah. And I wanted to tell them, you do know that I'm not patriotic, right?

Speaker 1 That was a good thing.

Speaker 1 I'm the last person. I'm like, yo, you're going to die or at least go to the basketball gym with me.

Speaker 1 It was like, and then I had a decision to make. I was like, do I quit? But

Speaker 1 I man threw it and I did another 45 minutes after it was over. Of course, some of the people left the show, but I was surprised that half of the audience still stayed and I got to finish my show.

Speaker 1 It wasn't exactly the show that I thought in my brain.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, the interesting thing about comedy is the comedians that can adjust, you know what I mean, improvise and just keep it going. And that's what I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I was so happy for. We were in Texas.
And Texas is a Texas is definitely a gun-carrying state. That was the one thing that I was really nervous about because it was it was chaotic.

Speaker 1 And then there was a moment of silence. And then all I kept on was just bracing myself to hear pop, pop, pop.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That never happened. Um, I got 600,000 likes, so I won.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 The real went crazy. Yeah, Georgia is one of those states, too.
It's an open carry state. Yeah.
And time after time, judges in this state have said, it doesn't matter what you put on the front door.

Speaker 2 You know, it's an open carry state. So you, you got to be careful.

Speaker 2 And I, you know, when we first had that law come out, I thought for sure we, I do on occasion go to the grocery store and see someone with a holster. And that makes me a little bit nervous.

Speaker 2 But, you know, that was what I thought when I saw the video first. I thought clearly there's poppin' coming because these guys went right at it.
I mean, it was like came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 It's interesting that you say that being in an open carry state because

Speaker 1 I grew up in metropolitan areas like D.C., New York. And whenever you saw a gun, you thought it was about to be a crime committed.

Speaker 1 It wasn't my right to bear arms. It was just like, you got a gun.
Oh, my God. Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure. I grew up in Chicago.
And so, I mean,

Speaker 2 we didn't see guns. That's not what we saw.
But you come down here to Georgia. It's just a whole lot of people.

Speaker 1 Well, it sounds like you grew up in a nice part of Chicago.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to claim I grew up in Cabrini Green, Ron.

Speaker 1 Donnelly. I'm just not going to.
I'm like, you said Chicago and haven't seen a gun. Oh, you're so privileged.

Speaker 1 You probably had both your parents, too. You so lucky.

Speaker 2 I had both my parents. For a while, I had both my parents.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 2 You've been doing this for a long time. And actually, when I see your face, I think I remember a lot of your character, like your acting work, as well as your comedic work, too.

Speaker 2 You were in one of my favorite television shows. I know you get this all the time, The Wire.

Speaker 2 Tell us a little bit about the experience working on The Wire.

Speaker 2 It's so raw on television when it came out.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1 If you're a historian of David Simon, you would know that before The Wire, there was a mini-series that won three Emmys. It was called The Corner.

Speaker 1 Charles Dutton directed that. It was a six-part miniseries and that was written by David Simon.
And it was a story about a family that was

Speaker 1 dealing with

Speaker 1 addiction and the trials and the tribulations of being addicted. And that story was a very...

Speaker 1 very interesting story and it was so successful that they wanted to do something else but they couldn't contain that story and that's why the wire was a spin-off of the corner.

Speaker 1 And I had the opportunity to work on the corner. I played a heroin addict.
And it was interesting because I was very, very young talent at the time. And when I did this audition,

Speaker 1 I clearly thought I bombed in the audition.

Speaker 1 There was nothing that we were going to tell me that gave me any indication that I would get this role to the point where when I first met David Simon, I had to ask him, and I was already, I had already booked it.

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 1 why me?

Speaker 1 Right. I was like, like, why me? I said, I swear that I bombed in that audition.
And he said, we like the fact that you threw away the lines. Right.

Speaker 1 I didn't go off the script, but he thought that that was a skill. That was me not being prepared.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 everybody that like read the entire script and knew what was going on, I think most of them knowing that it was a heroin addict, they played into the stereotype.

Speaker 1 So I'm sure everyone in the audition was like, had the voice out, yeah, man. And they didn't want to see him like that.

Speaker 1 They wanted to see the human side of him they wanted to see who he was on the corner on the block making people laugh how he interacted with family and everything and i think me throwing the lines away not intentional but just by accident it landed that role which led me to get the role on the wire and the crazy thing the uh robert colesberry uh he was one of the uh executive producers of the show when i got on set of the wire he said you know we were um really really considering you to play the role of omar oh wow that was huge yeah but they said um they wanted to save the role i played damian price day they said we thought it was something special about this role and we thought that you could bring something to this and if you follow that show you'll notice the first season it was all about the towers the inner yes but what happened was the baltimore tourism board complained that every time there's a production in baltimore it depicts baltimore as being a grimy drug-infested uh neighborhood and i'm like have have you walked through Baltimore?

Speaker 1 But they didn't want the flack of that. So what happened was they changed the storyline from the towers and then they went to the docks.

Speaker 1 And then when they went to the docks, that's when my character got lost. Because if you really look at that show, you could tell that my character was going to do something crazy.

Speaker 1 First off, to go be a driver to Senator Clay Davis, to introduce myself to Lieutenant Daniels

Speaker 1 as Day-Day Price, and he's Lieutenant Daniels. And then to get caught with $30,000 in cash, get arrested, get released,

Speaker 1 you have to follow the money. So that character was going to be, I was so excited about it because it was going to be the connection with the politics and the streets.

Speaker 1 But once the character, once they changed the storyline, my character got lost. But David Simon was a real huge fan of mine.

Speaker 1 So he went above and beyond to create something for me to come back and like in the series. And that's what my relationship with Dewire.

Speaker 2 I think you did a great job with Dewire. Wire.
I, I,

Speaker 2 now that you're saying it, the story arc follows what you're saying, right?

Speaker 2 And I can understand, yeah, I can understand the pressure from the tourism board to say, hey, we'd like people to actually show up to our city.

Speaker 2 So, if you could stop, you know, painting it in this light. And I bet

Speaker 2 the people involved in the production had to say to themselves, well, maybe we should turn it a little bit so that we have a friendly environment that

Speaker 1 friends.

Speaker 1 And then, David Simon, I mean, it'd be one thing if you're a writer that's like from, say, like anywhere but Baltimore that experienced, has so much experience with police journalism.

Speaker 1 So he's really fond of the city. So I'm pretty sure his situation was, I don't want

Speaker 1 anything to disturb the great relationship that I've had in this city for like 40, 50 years. So you got to respect him for that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're a father. You've got a nine-year-old son.
When you had your son,

Speaker 2 I always like to ask this question of comedians who have children, and especially younger children. Does that change the way that you look at?

Speaker 2 I mean, it changes everything about your life being a father. I know that, but does it change the way you look at comedy in any way, shape, or form?

Speaker 2 Does that affect the way the creative process for you or what you think about?

Speaker 1 Well, to answer your question, no, it didn't really affect my life that much because I've always been locked in with comedy. It's like the thing that like it's just my everything.

Speaker 1 And I've always had a lens. I've always been focused.
but the lens when you have a kid and you have that sense of responsibility it goes from a wide lens to a very very fine to length fine

Speaker 1 interesting and you're not doing things it's one thing to just be living for yourself you know what i mean so you don't have to be considerate of too much anybody you don't have to be considerate of yourself but then when you got another human being that you're trying to make the best human you can then you got you you know some of the selfish things that you did some of the things that you had to consider you you know you it's it's just a it's just a different, it's just the situation.

Speaker 1 It's like, I'm living for this guy now, so I got to be the best person I can be.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. It doesn't affect your comedy necessarily, but it affects the way that you see the world and you act and you're out there in the world.

Speaker 2 Did you have a good relationship with your father?

Speaker 1 Not really, not in a bad way. My father was a, it's interesting because my father was a heroin kingspin in D.C.
No, really? Wow. Yeah.
The funny thing was, my parents were totally opposite.

Speaker 1 He was a heroin kingpin, and my mother was a social worker, and they had the same same clients. No.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 But it was like he was in and out.

Speaker 1 He was in and out of prison. You know,

Speaker 1 he chose a lifestyle. He had a lot of kids.
He chose a lifestyle that didn't give him an opportunity to, I want to say, spend as much time as he should have wanted to.

Speaker 1 But I don't have no regrets about the relationship

Speaker 1 that I had with

Speaker 1 my father. But I will say that

Speaker 1 that really made me want to like create every memory I could with my son like with the relationship I have my father I could probably two handfuls of memories that I remember important things and I told myself I don't want that relationship that I have with my son that's why like

Speaker 1 this kid gets all the opportunities I spend as much time as possible with him I try to encourage him to be the best he can be.

Speaker 1 I mean, although me and his mom aren't together, we have a great, I guess, tolerable

Speaker 1 co-parenting relationship.

Speaker 1 And the thing I, and I know it's kind of tough co-parenting at times, but the thing that I really respect about what we're doing with him, like the other day, I went to go visit him.

Speaker 1 He was at his mom's house. And he was like, Dad, can you come over in the morning? Because I want to have family.
family breakfast with you and watch a movie.

Speaker 1 He doesn't. And when he says family, he doesn't separate me from his mom.
And he knows family means us together.

Speaker 2 Wow. And then you and your, and then you and your ex or the mother of your child, you guys get together and do stuff like that?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I encourage it.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
I don't think, I mean, yeah, I'm really a person that strongly believes in that.

Speaker 1 And it was so funny because I can draw how I feel from a relationship I had years ago. I was dating this woman, and

Speaker 1 her parents had separated when she were like, like 10, her brother, like 10 and 12.

Speaker 1 And as an adult i knew her and uh uh their parents would always do stuff go on trips and he would come over and cook dinner for them and me i think food is a love language right fair enough exactly if i'm cooking for you i'm smashing

Speaker 1 so i was like this i was like oh man he's still hitting he's still hitting

Speaker 1 that was that was the best jerk chicken i ever had in my life I'm still hitting that, right? And then she was like, no, they're not.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't until I got in that situation and realized the importance of keeping that family structure together as much as possible, as best as possible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that's really, I mean, I don't need to tell you, but I think that's really big of you. My parents, when they got divorced, that was it.
See you later.

Speaker 2 Sayonora, the only time they ever got together in the same room was for like super family functions, right?

Speaker 1 Someone graduated or something like a marriage, a wedding, and they just, just they just don't tolerate each other in that way they they won't and i i'm not gonna sit up here and act like it's been easy oh i can't imagine yeah but i will say and i do tolerate a lot because i'm very very good to her you know i'm very good to her on the financial side i'm very good to her on being in my son's life and like i say it hasn't been easy and sometimes i just want to look at him and say boy you owe me for this

Speaker 1 because i want to say here's the money. See you fucking later.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think part of that is because

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would have had the same sentiment if I was a young dad, you know, like in my early 20s or whatever.

Speaker 1 But I think that some of that is contributing to the fact that I had my son very, very late stage of my life. So I really respect.
what that is.

Speaker 1 And I also look at it like it's a blessing because I was already of the mindset that I wasn't going to have kids.

Speaker 1 I was like, and then most people, because psychologically, you got to prepare yourself for that because it'll drive you crazy.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay, most people in this situation, if they decide they don't want to have kids, for some reason, they can't have kids. Then they bury themselves in their jobs.

Speaker 1 You know, they bury themselves in the relationship they have with their nieces and their nephews. And you can find yourself content in that.
And I was ready to be content with that.

Speaker 1 But then when I found out that she was pregnant or anything, it just, it was so overwhelming.

Speaker 2 I i was like oh my god we really doing this yeah we're really doing this i've i had kids later on in life too i'm an older father and for a number of different reasons i think that's a blessing and and there's some curse to it too you know when you're an older father you don't have the energy you did and all that other good gravy but at the end of the day i'm

Speaker 2 sure that these i i was such an asshat one in my 20s if i had imagine i can't imagine having kids i was such a shithead out on the street prowling like a stray cat i know i'd have been like this okay diapers bag of weed yeah

Speaker 1 I would have been like, diapers, bag of blow, 12 pack of butt like.

Speaker 2 I'll take the night shift, honey.

Speaker 1 You take the morning, no problem.

Speaker 1 I want to try to make it as kid-friendly as possible, bro.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you're letting your kids listen to this show, you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 I read somewhere

Speaker 1 that you were a heckler, like your step into comedy was a professional heckler. That's what I heard.

Speaker 1 Well, it was interesting because, you know, you talk to some comedians. They always have, oh, when I was a kid, I knew I wanted to do this.
I had no idea if this is what I would be doing in my life.

Speaker 1 In fact, I was a military police officer in the Air Force. So I was waiting to be a D.C.
police officer in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 And I took a job in the interim. I was head of security for this grocery chain.
I was like the head of rent-a-cops or whatever.

Speaker 1 And there was a guy that used to come to one of the stores I had to supervise. And he worked for Hostess Cupcake Company.
He would stop the shelves. He was a comedian at night.

Speaker 1 And he would give us free tickets to go to the comedy club.

Speaker 1 And I would go just as something to do with, you know, the people I work with.

Speaker 1 And I just started heckling the comedians. I started heckling them.
And I started becoming good at heckling. People started actually coming.
They were like, yo, my chance.

Speaker 1 Is that asshole going to be here tonight?

Speaker 5 You're part of the show.

Speaker 1 My part of the show. And then I started building the audience.
And I was so good at destroying those shows and

Speaker 1 bringing people to hear me heckle that I went to the club owner and tried to get a door deal.

Speaker 1 You wanted to take a cut of the door

Speaker 1 while you were at the show? I was like, look, man.

Speaker 1 When I'm here, I increase your business by 30%.

Speaker 1 I went in. And they was like, if you don't get the hell out of here,

Speaker 1 what we will do is like, you think you're so bad.

Speaker 1 They didn't want, I'm sure that club did not want me to succeed they wanted me to shut the fuck up of course but it didn't happen that way and i and being i'm being honest the first time and i think this was the excitement of people coming week by week and wondering when this guy was going to take the next step right the first time i touched the microphone i got a stand in ovation wow

Speaker 1 And I knew that this was going to be what I would be doing for the rest of my life. That was, and I, and I never, I mean, we're talking 30 plus years later.
I never gave myself another option.

Speaker 1 I never looked for a job to offset bills i was like if you're broke you're broke you know and i never gave myself a plan b

Speaker 1 i think it worked out okay for you yeah yeah your body

Speaker 1 your body of work is so long it's not um

Speaker 1 everybody's path the path that i chose and how i did it in fact you know people come up to me and they ask for mentoring advice and the first thing i say is like if you're really serious about this business first off off, you have to be able to be happy being broke.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you can't find happiness in the struggle, then you're going to.

Speaker 1 We know all about that, Brian.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we know all about that. Yeah.
And the other thing is, is that

Speaker 2 you just said something I think is like a tidbit of wisdom.

Speaker 2 If somebody is out there looking to be a stand-up comedian, a creative type, whatever it is, is if you give yourself other options, it's likely you'll get other options, right?

Speaker 2 It's likely you'll go other directions.

Speaker 2 There's that kind of this blind faith that you have to have almost.

Speaker 1 I've met this Jamaican guy, and he used to give me advice about certain things. And he said, Donnell, you know, the people say you don't burn bridges.
He said, I say, burn it down.

Speaker 1 That way, you know, you can't go back.

Speaker 2 You know, Jamaican guys, like,

Speaker 2 they sound very wise because of that accent. I just got to admit it.
They could say anything, and it would sound like wisdom.

Speaker 2 I went to Jamaica once, and there was a guy that was talking to me, and I couldn't tell you half of the stuff that he was saying, but I felt it was profound because of the way he was saying it.

Speaker 2 Yes, I was like, whatever you're saying, that's that is that is pretty wise. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's so funny because I used to have a bit about that. I was like, in Jamaica, it'd be like, if one man

Speaker 1 put one

Speaker 1 burger on one bun

Speaker 1 with one piece of cheese,

Speaker 1 what do you have? You have a fucking cheeseburger, man.

Speaker 2 That's awesome wow yeah kirsty is right too you do have quite the

Speaker 5 the body of work you have put together what are some of your favorite sets that you've been on i mean it's so varied anyway from the chappelle show which a lot of people know you're from

Speaker 1 i would say uh

Speaker 1 the wire in the corner that relationship i had there because i've never took an acting class or anything so it was a student to everybody everybody was kind of helping me out i didn't know what i was doing and i wasn't ashamed to say i didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 1 And people helped me out. I think

Speaker 1 Chappelle show was another one. That show never felt like I was doing work.

Speaker 1 In fact,

Speaker 1 I used to, what people don't know is

Speaker 1 I wasn't really on the show a lot. But when I was on the show, I was on the show.

Speaker 1 And it was times that I used to have so much fun on set, even on my days off, I would go to the set to hang out. I love it.
For a couple of reasons, I was like,

Speaker 1 didn't have a lot of money at the time. I was like, I get free food, right?

Speaker 1 I get to hang out with my boys. And then there was a strong chance that, and this happened on so many sketches, that Dave and Neil would just say, hey, you're, you're, you want to get some of this?

Speaker 1 And that's a lot of the roles that I got. It was just because me being there and me like just being in the presence and giving myself an opportunity.

Speaker 1 But one of the

Speaker 1 things that, one of the things that I really, really appreciated that I got, I'm glad that was under my belt was

Speaker 1 Being in the Pixars movie Seoul. Oh man, that's one of our

Speaker 1 family family's favorite movies My son because my son didn't have respect for Chappelle Shoulder wire He didn't give a fuck about none of that, right?

Speaker 1 But the minute I was on Seoul and the thing about it was Seoul, the year so came, and that's when it was supposed to come out that summer, the pandemic. That's right.

Speaker 1 So they sent us a screener to watch. And this is before

Speaker 1 they did any promotion of it. And I had a little watch party for my son and his friends.
And they could care less about that movie.

Speaker 1 And this was what ruined it in that situation for me because I ordered McDonald's happy meals for all the kids.

Speaker 1 And they got delivered right when my scene was coming out. Yes.
Yes. It's over.
It's game over.

Speaker 1 Happy meal.

Speaker 1 But the power of marketing, but once they started talking about Seoul, YouTube, and McDonald's and everything, now it's like, my dad is in that movie. So,

Speaker 1 to get his

Speaker 1 approval, and him just the other day, he asked me what was my favorite voice actors? And I told him, Eddie Murphy. I named a couple people.
And I asked him, I haven't been in a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 And I was like, who are your favorite voice actors? And he said, you number one. Dad.
He said, Jack Black, and everything. That made me feel good.

Speaker 1 The fact that he could go to school and brag and everything and feel good about it.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 a great moment. But I look at my careers,

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 moves the dial and i've done a lot of stuff i forget i was hanging out with chappelle a couple weeks ago he said don i don't know if you understand

Speaker 1 every

Speaker 1 black show that resonated with pop culture there was a hit you've been on it yeah interesting for like the last 30 years like every one

Speaker 1 i don't look at that because

Speaker 1 i don't

Speaker 1 I don't look at my resume. I don't look at anything because I just feel good that I found my God-given talent and I was able to do something with it.
I don't connect with fame.

Speaker 1 I don't connect with celebrity. I don't abuse fame or celebrity.
The only time I would abuse fame or celebrity, if I'm at Disneyland or something and I don't want to stand in that lady.

Speaker 1 Pull out the card. It's for my son.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 you know, but that's the only thing. The only time I would use my celebrity for anything if it

Speaker 1 if it can help my son out.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And

Speaker 2 as As a matter of fact, I'm going to Disney World in a couple of weeks, and I'm going to use your fame to get me on the rise. I'm going to say, I know Donnell.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 2 Soul is one of those movies. If I'm not mistaken, one of the first movies or the first movie premiered on when Disney Plus came out.
Am I right about that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because the theaters were closed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the theaters were closed. And I remember watching that with my then young son, and we watched that on a loop for weeks.
We loved that movie. And

Speaker 2 some of the first questions about life in general life and death and all that came from that movie

Speaker 1 and um yeah that was that was a big movie for our family and we still watch it on occasion um here how did you meet uh chappelle like how did you get involved in the chappelle show i'm not sure i've ever heard the story well we knew each other because we're both from washington dc and then being from that city it's a great town for comedy like if it was someone before you which dave was i'm older than him but he was before me you kind of followed their career because you asked yourself, What did they do to leave?

Speaker 1 You know, the first

Speaker 1 sign of making this business is leaving your hometown. It's not like that today because you can be successful, make yourself famous anywhere now.
But back then, it was like, all right, he's serious.

Speaker 1 He moved to New York or LA. That was just it.
It wasn't Atlanta. It wasn't no Austin, Texas.
It was none of that. So

Speaker 1 I knew of him

Speaker 1 from being the DC guy who was making it. And he shared this story on my 50th birthday.
Someone asked him,

Speaker 1 How did you and Donnell meet? And Dave said, you know, I'll tell you how. He said, I was popping.

Speaker 1 I was getting money. And I was in New York.
And I would go back for the holidays. And I would ask, who's the guys that's really doing something?

Speaker 1 And it was always the regular names that he heard year after year. He said, but then they were like, but.

Speaker 1 There's this one guy named Donnell Rollins that's

Speaker 1 and they've been the competitive spirit of the years. When they told him that he said,

Speaker 1 Donnell Rawlins,

Speaker 1 they said, and the funniest thing was, I had said that about him. Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 I said, who from DC is really killing it? Because I'm going to go for their neck. And they said, Paige Schauer.
I was like, what about him? They said, he's young, he's smart, so-and-so.

Speaker 1 And I said, the same thing, fuck Dave Schauffelle.

Speaker 1 So we knew of each other from our reputation and what we did to DC.

Speaker 1 And then that just

Speaker 1 was one thing about, you know, when you go to New York, like if you were coming from DC, it wasn't too many of us. And it was like, you just had

Speaker 1 just a connection because, oh, that's the dude. He's from so-and-so.
What's popping? You know,

Speaker 1 that led to him, me being on the radar of a funny guy. But it was a relationship that I had with Neil Brennan.

Speaker 1 Landed me the job on the show because

Speaker 1 Neil and Dave had wrote the movie Half Bake and

Speaker 1 it's a cult favorite and Neil got some writing gigs. He wrote like three other movies that he got paid for, but the movies weren't getting the green light.
So they was just being canned.

Speaker 1 So he thought that, you know, maybe he would try his foot in directing. He never directed anything, but he wrote just one,

Speaker 1 this short film was only one person and another person.

Speaker 1 And he reached out to my manager. He's like, man, I really like Donnell.
You think he would do this for me?

Speaker 1 And I did it. And I was already doing a corner and some other stuff.
Yeah, and I said, Man, I know you can't afford to pay me.

Speaker 1 I said, If you're ever in a situation where you could toss me a bone, do it. And that bone was tossed as the Chappelle show, like three months after that.
Oh, wow, look at that.

Speaker 8 What a bone!

Speaker 2 Yeah, what a bone. Yeah, we had Neil on the show.
We and we heard the story about the early kind of you know

Speaker 2 blossoming of the whole Chappelle show it's a fascinating story in and of it in and of itself i agree i will as much as um

Speaker 2 as much as dave is the star of the show and you don't have a show without a star and as much support he gave me i can't you know thank nil enough because if it wasn't for him co-signing and really pushing for me to be on the show you know there would be no ash hilarity there'd be no beautiful there'd be none of that yeah all right so you're on the road still today i mean i gotta imagine for almost all the comics that we talked to with maybe the exception of a few few who are doing less now because they can but i gotta imagine that that's just in your blood you like traveling you like doing the road you like being out there cutting your teeth and finding new new material i do but you know i will say uh

Speaker 1 that it's been uh

Speaker 1 more difficult

Speaker 1 because of me having a young son

Speaker 1 yeah your role isn't as appealing as it used to be but you know it's probably like 70 to 75 percent of my bread and butter. So there's no way for me to get around it.

Speaker 1 But I continue to try to make steps where, you know, I don't have to have such a vigorous schedule where I'm trying to position myself where I could get to that point where I can just go tour for three months and be good for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, do you do the podcast too, right?

Speaker 1 That's so funny you said that because when I was on Rogan's podcast some years ago, I said, I think I need to reinvent myself or just reintroduce myself to Hollywood.

Speaker 1 I need to make money in Hollywood so I can be here more. And he was like, just start a podcast.
And I was like, ain't no damn money in no podcast. And then I googled his network.
I was like, so,

Speaker 1 you know, one thing about it, anybody tell you what a podcast, the number one thing you got to do, the consistency of it.

Speaker 1 You know, I was super, super aggressive with it during the pandemic because I didn't have too many options.

Speaker 1 But once the world started opening up where I could go out and get my normal money, I probably didn't put as much interest in it as I should. But at the other day, my,

Speaker 1 one of my internet dudes or graph, whatever you want to call them, he was like, you got to update your W-9s. You got some money waiting in Facebook, right?

Speaker 1 And I looked at it. I was like, how did we do that?

Speaker 1 I was like, it was a nice amount. I was like, we need to do more of that.

Speaker 1 Yes. That's it.

Speaker 2 That's the thing is that, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 largely about content creation. And once you create the content, it can just keep on turning and burning.
And a lot of these platforms are automated. They make the money for you.

Speaker 2 They find the sponsors.

Speaker 2 You know, they take a good cut of it, but you're so prolific and you've done so much that if you just keep on putting, repurposing that content, you get the thing that I like about what we're doing, and you have done this for the last 30 years, is that you've got a library of content, right?

Speaker 2 Digital, audio, TV, whatever it is. That library can continue to be repurposed and recached in over and over and over again.
Look at Rogan. He's got 4,000 episodes, 1,500 episodes, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 He can just keep on turning and burning that catalog. He could retire tomorrow and people would continue to buy that like it was Seinfeld on repeats.

Speaker 1 But that's why it goes to like what we were talking about in regard to

Speaker 1 how important college is going to be. And for that, you got a person like me that's an older guy that might not be as nice as that, but that's going to be a job.
It's going to be a guy like this.

Speaker 1 You know what? Hire me. I'm going to do the scrubbing.
I'll find it all. I'll set it up.
And it's right there, but it's like, who's going to dial in? Yeah.

Speaker 2 There are whole agencies that do this. I mean, you know, I'm happy to discuss that with you, but I don't want to bore the audience, but there are whole agencies that do this for you.

Speaker 2 They take a cut of the revenue, but they go out and they do that. They find the good material.
They put it out there for you. You know, video production companies, social agencies that will do this.

Speaker 2 And with a huge library of content like you you have you know you just keep filming yourself when you go to these stand-ups and you'll be doing this forever and ever podcasting is a game of consistency it really is we we are not that good at what we do on any given day but we have you know almost a thousand episodes so for us it's like we have an advantage in the sense that we just keep on doing it blind faith

Speaker 1 donnell blind faith like the jamaican guy said we burned bridges a long time ago we're stuck

Speaker 1 that's good i mean i and then i see people like yourself yourself and other guys, other guys, and gals, women, them, they, thus, that

Speaker 1 put the focus on. And it's something that lately I've been, I've been getting back on it, but it's something that I know that I have to do because it's, it's just right there.

Speaker 1 And it's like what they call his mailbox money. Yeah.
Oh, mailbox money. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 It's mailbox money. I saw you were out in Indianapolis with

Speaker 2 Dr. Phil,

Speaker 2 the Dr. Phil, and Rory Scoville, Joe List.
And you guys, did you guys do a show over the weekend?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we did. That was my

Speaker 1 first time doing Dr. Phil Adam Corolla thing.
I've been knowing Adam Corolla for years. I'm really super excited that he's found a lick, if you want to say, that's really doing well for him.

Speaker 1 And he's like been a fan of mine for years.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I went to go see his show.

Speaker 1 Some time ago, Teddy Swims was one of the guests, and I wanted to go hang out with Teddy. And he just happened to be on Adam's show.
And I was like, Adam, you got to give me a date.

Speaker 1 And he got the date and we did it. And I was, um,

Speaker 1 I had a little reservations because

Speaker 1 that character was a spin-off of, off of Kill Tony.

Speaker 1 Ah. Right.
And then for some reason, sometimes the Kill Tony, they're not huge fans of mine.

Speaker 2 What happened with Kill Tony?

Speaker 2 There was some like dust up at some point or something.

Speaker 1 It was like, you know, everything is.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you, the biggest person with the podcast is your producer and how they edit clips. That's right.
And

Speaker 1 I was doing one of the shows in Austin, Texas. And this was a time during the pandemic where nobody wanted to do kill Tony.
They were afraid to give him COVID. And I had just happened to be there.

Speaker 1 It was like, yo, I need you. Will you come on the show? And I did him a favor.
I said, I'm not going to be here too much longer, too long. I was on the show for two hours.

Speaker 1 It started getting a little buzzed. I had some prior shit that I had to do.
And

Speaker 1 I got into a...

Speaker 1 situation with one of the comedians and they edited this video this clip that went viral and they made it look like the guy was roasting me and i walked off and stormed off they did make it look like that for sure for sure no doubt about it

Speaker 1 and then those those fans are so whoever whatever they are yeah yeah i got you know and i've been on

Speaker 1 platforms tried to explain what happened nobody believed me but i was like i'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to you know, prove to these guys who I am. You know,

Speaker 1 as much as they want to say, I'm the walk-off guy, but if you go through the bank and they got a thousand of of shows to kill Tony, you ask them how many times anybody's ever got a standard ovation on a show, and I was one of them when I just put Lucas on there.

Speaker 1 But I look at like you have people that are trolls, it doesn't matter what you do, you won't win them over.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day, engagement is engagement, and whenever I'm on those shows or I'm a part of them, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man, there it is. That's the dangerous part about content creation, right? Is that if you're in the game of telling it like it is, then you show it how it was.

Speaker 2 If you're in the game of clickbait, then you show it how you want it to be.

Speaker 1 And so, or once you're- Well, you got into how you want it to be, but how you want it to be is

Speaker 1 doing way better than I dabble.

Speaker 1 Man, I have so many stories about Hollywood and relationships I had with people and stuff that I could just go on any platform and just start airing shit out and go crazy.

Speaker 1 You know, my morals and my integrity won't let me do that.

Speaker 2 Ours either. Sometimes to our detriment, we just won't do the clickbait.
We're not going to twist people's words. You know, it is what it is, and we'll show it in full.

Speaker 2 And if it was boring, well, then, you know, move on to the next thing. That's, that is what it is.
But no one can say that about Donnell Rawlings.

Speaker 2 And listen, also, when you have a show that is completely based on that roast factor, then your audience is going to be, they're going to be lions and tigers, also, right?

Speaker 1 They're proud for that. That's what they do.

Speaker 1 But that's why I don't, like, everybody, I don't,

Speaker 1 I don't do them because it's easy for you to say, oh, man, these are just jokes. Yeah, but they hurt.
They do. Yes.

Speaker 1 And a punch in the face hurts too. So let's just avoid all of that.
I try to stay away from stuff that don't fit with me. I agree.
I like that.

Speaker 1 My initial reason for being on that show is what, you know, me and I consider Tony Hench Club for friend. So it is what it is.

Speaker 2 It is what it is. All right.
Well, listen, Donnell has a brand new special. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got the pods. He's on the rest.

Speaker 2 He's on the road. Social medias.
It's all in the links below. Donnell, do you ever come to Atlanta? Are you on Atlanta? Are you coming to Atlanta on this tour?

Speaker 1 yeah i know i'm sure i'm pretty sure it's in the fall i love atlanta i used to love this club it's a small club but i used to have it has so much history with them it's called the laughing skull oh yeah of course i love that one of course that's where we are we're in atlanta we're in atlanta yeah yeah i'm always up through there um i think i don't know if you go to my website donnellrollins.com i think i'm coming to the atlanta comedy theater in like the next two or three months.

Speaker 1 Always do well down there. And I love the people of Atlanta and I've got some good friends down there.

Speaker 2 If you come down to Atlanta, Atlanta, and we'll, I mean, we don't have to decide this now. I'm just throwing this off right out there.

Speaker 2 If you come to Atlanta, we have a studio where we where we would love to see you in person. So if you come,

Speaker 2 you let us know when you're coming, and then we'd love to invite you for 30, 45 minutes to promote the show.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, for sure. I'll definitely, it'll be on my list of things I have to hit.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's great. Don L.
Rawlings, all this stuff in the show notes. Such a pleasure to see you.

Speaker 1 We hope to see you again, maybe in person in a couple months. I'm Rich BX!

Speaker 1 You did it! We didn't even have to ask. We didn't even have to ask.
All right, that's going on the promo, Rio. Yes.

Speaker 1 Don L.

Speaker 2 Rawlings, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 You'll make this rather snappy, won't you?

Speaker 2 Somebody can be picking to do before 10 o'clock.

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Speaker 2 Well, Mr. Donnell Rawlings.
Wow. What more could you ask for? He talked about it all.
He didn't get in the Air Force to save your ass. He got in the Air Force to save his ass.
That's right.

Speaker 2 And you know what? Who could blame him? I know. They've been doing that since Vietnam.
You know? it's I agree with him to some degree. It's like, you know, I'm here for the benefits.

Speaker 2 I'm here for the cruise package, kids. That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 So, but thank you for his service anyway. Even if he wasn't in it to save my life,

Speaker 2 still got more balls than I do. That's all I got to say.
So thank you to all the men and women who saved the video. I love how the

Speaker 4 woman ran behind him on the stage.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Did you see the video? He's like,

Speaker 2 I'm not here to save you. I'm not here to save you.

Speaker 2 Watch the video. It's crazy.
It's online about the two guys who got into a fight at his show recently. I think it's from June 2nd or 3rd.
He posted it.

Speaker 2 And then there's a follow-up video that shows the aftermath where there's not only a couple women on stage, a couple men ran behind him, too.

Speaker 2 But who could blame them? In this day and age, I mean, you never know what's going to happen. So, Donnell, the hero we never know we needed and he didn't want to be.
There you go. How's that?

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Speaker 2 I might reach out to Donnell and explain to him how he needs to take that body of work that he has and start putting it out there for public consumption. Yes.
He can't hide that away.

Speaker 2 He's got to get hip with the kids.

Speaker 2 And speaking of kids, he sounds like a good father. Oh, yeah.
So you always applaud a good father. Fathers need to be good.
That's what we need to do. We need to be good.
Take care of our kids.

Speaker 5 That's right. You do a great job, too.

Speaker 2 Well, thank you. I try.
I just goof around with them. That's all I really do.

Speaker 4 You're the fun one.

Speaker 2 I am the fun one.

Speaker 2 Anyway, TCB, how do you get a hold of us? TCBPodcast.com. That's our website.
All the comings and goings of Chrissy and I, as well as your free sticker. It's free to you for now.

Speaker 2 We may not do this forever because we learned our lesson by getting some coupon site out there. Put our website and said free stickers here.
And guess what? Thousands of people asked for stickers.

Speaker 2 So we had to do a little quiz to make sure they were TCB fans. Anyway, 212-433-3 TCB.
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Speaker 2 I mean, at thecommercial break on Instagram and youtube.com/slash the commercial break for all the episodes on video. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.
I think so.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you that I love you. I love you.
I'll say best to you

Speaker 2 and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy, and I will say, we do say, and we must say.
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