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On this episode of the Commercial Break And making a triumphant return to the show Is Kelsey Kelsey Welcome back Yay Hi guys Thanks for having me back Well we couldn't be happier That you agreed to come back on the show Not something that happens very often We're surprised We're surprised You guys are great I love it You know we often say on the show. Not something that happens very often.
We're surprised. We're surprised.

You guys are great. I love it.
You know, we often say on the show that there's only two reasons why someone comes on the show. They're on their way up or on their way down.
I love it. You are definitely on the way up.
The next episode of The Commercial Break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens.
Welcome back to The Commercial Break. I'm Brian Green.
This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.
Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe.
TCB Infomercial Tuesday with yet another repeat customer, Kelsey Cook. I can't believe it.
Seeing her agreed. She's seeing her moment.
She's having her moment. She's coming on the show even though she's much more popular than she was even just six months ago.
Which I find hard to believe. Thank you, Kelsey.
Obviously our show helped catapult her. There is no doubt.
Into the realm of superstardom. No doubt that we played a huge role in her success and I'd like to take credit that, and I'd like her to admit that here on the show, that if it wasn't for the commercial break, she wouldn't, in fact, have a new special out on Hulu and YouTube.
And if it wasn't for the fact that she came on the commercial break, she would not be as popular and making as much money as she is right now. And when she admits that, I'll be happy, as long as she gives us tickets to her next appearance here in Atlanta.
That's one thing we need to ask all our guests. If you come to Atlanta, backstage passes, drink tickets for the kids, and a bucket of popcorn.
Yep. That's what I would like.
Yes. Those are our demands.
Yes. Those are our demands.
That's our rider, Kelsey Cook. And I'll have you know that I will take no shit.
I will take nothing less than free popcorn at your next event. KelseyCook.com is where you can find more information about Kelsey, all of her tour dates.
She's on an extensive tour right now, so I'm sure she's coming somewhere close to you. So go to KelseyCook.com to buy those tickets and the brand new special on Hulu and YouTube, which I'd like to ask her about.
It's so funny, I have to say. It's from beginning to end.
It's really funny. Everybody here has watched the special.
Everybody has given it a Michelin star, essentially. We were talking about this earlier.
I think what makes it even funnier is because she does not look like the person that is saying the stories that she's saying. No, it's true.
No, it's true. You're right.
She, yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say.

I mean, Kelsey is, she very much looks,

she very much looks like a innocent Midwestern girl.

Like a t-shirt or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's no knock.

I mean, no knock on the way that she looks.

She's beautiful.

But I'm just saying, when, you know, there's certain,

like when you look at Madison from Love is Blind. she looks like a troublemaker.
Yeah. Right? In those eyes, there are years of experience, and she looks like a troublemaker.
But when you look at someone like Kelsey, she seems like she could do no wrong, right? She just seems like a very innocent, nice human being. But when you watch her special, you realize that there's some dirt behind those eyes.
And I'd like to talk to her about that too. Of course, she's got the podcast also that she does with her boyfriend, Chad, who's also a very famous, very popular comedian.
Hold on one second, because I'm looking at Hulu here. She's got a link on her website.
and I am trying to – oh, watch on YouTube. Hold on one second.
Let me see if I can pull this up. The Hustler is the one that she did a couple of years ago was The Hustler.
And then Mark Your Territory is the new one. I wanted to mistakenly call it The Hustler, but it's Mark Your Territory, is the new special.
800-pound gorilla, who is supporting great comedy. 800-pound gorilla has a ton of comedy specials.
And I don't know who those people are, but they're doing great work to support good comedians. And I say, yay, sir.
Yay to you. So Kelsey will be on in just a few minutes.
While we're at it, we'll talk more extensively about this later on in the week. But I wanted to share that on last week's show, we were talking about Love is Blind.
Yes. I was talking about Madison.
And I was talking about how Madison was having a conversation with one of the guys in the pods. And one of the guys in the pods started to catch on to her shenanigans a little bit.
Right? And he pushed back. He said, hey, listen, I don't think I could deal with the way that you handle things.
Or that's not the way that I would handle it. That's not the way I would prefer it to be handled.
And so while I don't... Conflicts.
I think it was conflicts or something. Attachment style.
Yeah. Conflicts.
Then there was another question about sex. There was another question about the way that you deal with the way that you run away when someone does something.
Avoidance. The way that you don't want your partner to be involved in fixing you.
And he just, all these little hints that she was dropping, he kind of picked up on and said, that wouldn't be good for me, actually. I don't like that.
Kudos to him. And kudos to him.
He probably wouldn't have said it if he had been seeing her, if he had looked at her. I agree with you there.

I agree.

If she was at the bar and they were having that conversation face to face, I said it before, I'll say it again. He would have rolled like a puppy dog.
Because those eyes are like, I don't know, like the Cheshire Cat little swirling eyes that hypnotize you. You're like, oh, man.

But now, because we're talking about it here, my phone's listening, I'm getting all of these reels about Love is Blind. And I come to find out that this guy, and I don't want to give the name away because if you haven't watched Love is Blind, I want you to be able to watch it without interference from Brian.
But this guy apparently is not the dorky nerdy kid who he claimed to be number one and number two he's not the nice guy that he claimed to be according to some people in minnesota i cannot believe that somebody on reality television is lying do you know i mean it seems unfathomable it seems unreal that we would get a twisted story from the producers of such hits as baby reindeer love is blind did you cheat on me lately whatever the what's the other show they did that nick and vanessa do uh oh are you the One? Oh, yeah, Ultimatum.

Yeah, which is a terrible show. It really is.

Put your loved one in with another attractive human being and see if

they have sex. Of course I watch it, but it's a terrible idea.

It's a terrible idea. But great for TV.

Yeah, it's a cheating factory.

And by the way, no one that walks into

the Ultimatum, which is couples

go in together

and they get to peruse around the other couples to see if there's someone they like better. No one who's secure in their relationship would ever go on that show.
No. You think I would bring Astrid into a room full of hot 30 something guys? No, because I don't stand a chance.
I don't stand a chance. I try and keep her.
Actually, I try and keep Astrid out of all rooms with hot 30 something guys. That's it.
That's my rules. Those are my rules.
But anyway, these women in Minnashota in Minneapolis are a talking. They're a yapping.
That's what I've heard. And there's a through line here because Kelsey Cook is living in Minneapolis.
Am I right about this? She is. Okay.
She's living in Minneapolis. She moved in with Chad or they bought a house together.
They bought a house together. I won't waste her time on Love is Blind, but just know that there's a through line here.
Apparently, a lot of the guys that are on Love is Blind this season have a lot of dirt, and there's a lot of people around them that are willing to spill that tea on social media because there's not one guy who was featured on this show. Doesn't have some drama about him right now out there on the internet.
So while I said this was the slowest season of Love is Blind, it is on the show. But outside the show on social media, things are just heating up.
KelseyCook.com, go get tour tickets. Check her special out on Hulu or YouTube.
There are links on her website. We have links in the show notes.
And please check out her and Chad's podcast, which is available everywhere you listen to podcasts. Wherever you're listening to us now, you can listen to their podcast.
I think that drops weekly. Am I right? I think so.
I listened to a couple episodes. I actually thought it was pretty good.
So yeah, they have like a little factory, a little comedy factory going on up there in Minneapolis. And I think they're going on tour together.
Well, let's see. We'll ask her all about it when we get back.
I'll tell you what, let's do this. Let's take a short break.
Through the magic. And then when we get back through the magic of telepodcasting, we'll bring Kelsey Cook in and we'll have a conversation.
What do you think? Let's do it. Alright, we'll be back.
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Kelsey, welcome back. Yay.
Hi, guys. Thanks for having me back.
Well, we couldn't be happier that you agreed to come back on the show. Not something that happens very often.
We're surprised. You guys are great.
I love it. You know, we often say on the show that there's only two reasons why someone comes on the show.
They're on their way up or on their way down. I love it.
You are definitely on the way up. Yeah.
Congratulations on all your success since we talked to you last. Thanks so much, guys.
You guys are so nice. We were talking just before we started recording.
We were sharing that you did a couple of big shows or a big show at the Wilbur in Boston. In just the last, how long ago was it when we talked to you? Just like six months ago, right? I feel like it's six to eight months.
Yeah, in six or eight months, you have gone on quite the run. And all credit to you and the comedy that you're putting together, which is resonating with people.
And let me ask you this, when you're in this moment, does it feel like things are heating up? Do you get this sense? Like, oh my gosh, I have a special coming out. I'm selling out shows.
I'm doing theaters. Does it feel like that? Or is it too fast and furious to take a breath and recognize? That a good question i'm trying to stop and smell the roses and all of that because uh this business is really that way where if you don't it's like once you get there there disappears right it's like you get to where you're trying to get to and then you're like okay now what and you're always just looking for the next thing but it's just that's such a slippery slope into not being happy because uh there is kind of no limit in this career it's like you see the people at the top of the mountain and stand up and it's like oh my god it's such a different thing now it's like you become a full rock star essentially.
Right. And so I think it's such a different thing now.
It's like you become a full rock star, essentially. Yes, right.
And so I think it's really easy to feel like you're never doing enough, and I have really been trying hard to be like, okay, this is so cool. Especially if there are bucket list things happening, I'm like, okay, I need to really stop and appreciate this because this is a really great feeling.
Was the Wilbur or selling out a theater like that was, this storied history, was that like one of those bucket list things? Like, oh my gosh, I can, I'm standing here in a place where so many other comedians have killed it. Absolutely.
Yeah. I have to, just because I'll feel like gross if I don't correct you.
We didn didn't sell it out but a lot of people came and it was great but i i can't just be like yeah we sold out we didn't sell that one out but uh there have been a lot of sold out shows on tour so far which has felt great but um but yeah getting to do the wilbur was i mean that's just such like an iconic venue and um the last time i was in Boston was at the comedy club and we had sold out that whole weekend. And so I think that was a really great feeling of like, okay, I did kind of the best I could do at the club.
And now, because of that, I'm getting to do this bucket list thing. And that like when you can see those changes in your career, like getting to do theaters has been the coolest feeling i am so happy for you i think that that's really cool it's i've just enjoy so much watching uh nice people succeed good people succeed um i take great pleasure in it it gives me zero hope that the commercial break will ever get to that level because I'm not a good person.
Oh my gosh. There's plenty of shitty people who succeed in this business.
Don't you worry about it. Thank you.
Don't worry. A lot worse people.
Shitty people deserve love too. You shouldn't die.
You're so nice. What are you talking about? So, who are the people at the top of the of the hill? Who do you, whose career do you admire right now? Like, who do you look at and you go, oh my gosh, they're doing such a great job.
And I, you know, I aspire to that or maybe not even aspire, but you can, I guess you look at them and you go, they've, they're at the top of the hill. They're really crushing it.
I mean, a couple people that come to mind right away are obviously like taylor tomlinson who's one of my best friends yeah and uh nikki glazer also one of my friends having this massive moment right now uh and seeing the level of work that those two put in is truly mind-blowing It's like, you know i look at taylor who's hosting after midnight during the day right and then touring uh on the weekends and it's like she she actually does not have free time it is like she doesn't have a light she is constantly um grinding and it's just so impressive and I'm so proud of her because it does uh i don't know it just makes you go oh wow like that is possible to be sure excelling at that level so um and i think that's what i mean before where the sky is the limit now in stand-up like people are doing so much beyond just like touring and i think i've had to maybe like recalibrate my goals a little bit and be like okay what is actually important to me like do i want the biggest amount of fame the whatever all that stuff and knowing that with that can also come a lifestyle that I also don't really want. So kind of trying to find that balance of like, I of course want to just keep getting better and better at stand up and growing my fan base.
But knowing that I like I mean, I love living in Minnesota and having this very normal life when I'm not on tour and like playing pickleball with my boyfriend. You know, balance I have in my life.
And so, yeah, just trying to figure out what I ultimately want, I guess. We have these conversations all the time.
We have these Delulu conversations all the time. Chrissy and I do.
There are steps you can take to move outside of the RSS feed, so to speak. Like we live very much in this RSS bubble.
We do this show at our, you know, here in a local studio and we live regular lives outside of this. But there are lots of podcasters, mainly comedians who do this out there who have this level of fame and success where I think that their lives are altered because they are outside the RSS feed,

outside of that bubble.

And so Chrissy and I often say,

what would it be like to live outside that bubble or if we took steps to live outside of that bubble?

And I can see what you're saying

because maybe your life changes in a way

that doesn't feel like it sounds great,

but then when it happens, maybe it's not.

When you can't go to the grocery store

without people asking for an autograph or take a picture

or can you do a reel with me or whatever,

people start to get this sense of,

Thank you. It feels good to go out, get the adoration, do what you do, kill it, and then come home and be a normal person.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, and it's funny because I had looked up to my boyfriend for so long in comedy.

Sure. and then come home and be a normal person.
Yeah. Yeah, and it's funny because I had looked up to my boyfriend for so long in comedy because I just so admired that he had achieved the goals he wanted to in stand-up without having to live a life that he didn't want to.
He didn't come up in LA, didn't come up in New York. He has stayed in Minnesota stayed in Minnesota this whole time where he's from originally and had his Netflix special come out last year like he is and now he's like selling all his shows and I uh just was like wow that's such a cool life and I was like well now I'm yeah I'm with him forever so it's great it's like the best they they're like a little incubator over there in Minnesota.
Oh, I know. I have family up there in Minneapolis.
My husband's brother and his family live up there. And I love it whenever I go visit up there.
It's fantastic. It's great.
I've been in the winter, and yes, it's freezing. But there's also times when it's not.
And it's just a beautiful city. I love the people there.
there yeah it i mean it's exactly what you said the winters are insane yeah and like make you feel like i can't be alive right now this is like yeah minus 18 feels like minus 26 and step outside yeah your eyelashes just like snap i mean it's like not normal living conditions for a human being our poor dog when he has to go outside to shit in that weather it's like a power poop it's like not normal living conditions for a human being. Our poor dog, when he has to go outside to shit in that weather, it's like a power poop.
It's like you've never seen a dog poop so fast. And it's like sprints, poop, sprints back in.
It's just insanity. But yeah, and it's like also such a great city to tour out of.
If touring is your primary thing in your career, it's like Minneapolis is very central. It's a lot of nonstop flights.
The time zone change isn't crazy either way. And so yeah, I never thought that that would be like a smart move.
You don't think like you go to Minneapolis and your career flourishes. But LA is like a very hard city to tour out of.
It's you so far in the corner going to new york is like a five-hour flight it's miserable it's a miserable flight yeah three-hour time change it's just a lot so it's weird that you don't think of minneapolis as being this like glitzy place for a career but it actually like hey prince that's all i gotta say I all I gotta say. Prince never moved out of Minneapolis.
That's all. That's all you gotta say.
He literally made Minneapolis, like, ground zero for... Yes.
I know. I've got to get up to Paisley Park.
Have you been to Paisley Park? I haven't been, but I've been told I need to go. Especially living here, so it's on my list.
Okay, so your new special. Fantastic.
Everybody here has watched it. It's like required reading.
Beginning to end. Thank you.
I'll say this. The ladies, including Astrid, Tina, Chrissy, all just raved about this special.
I think it really resonates. And I thought it was very funny also.
I don't see you as the jealous type that surprised me that's like the the biggest surprise eye-opener of the entire special was like she's not jealous is she a jealous type she seems so mild-mannered yeah you know I am mild-mannered but it's kind of like what I said in the joke that it wasn't until my 30s that that switch kind of flipped. and I don't know if it's like a primal caveman thing where once I was with Chad and you know it's like you get a little bit older and I think you you can tell that like death is not this is dark to say but like death is not yeah it's not this like thing that you're just like oh yeah so it's like you get a little older and you meet the person that you're like oh this is this is my forever person and then there is at least for me something set in of like i need to like again mark my territory like guard this person and uh and of course because he's also like a touring comedian he has tons of fans women love him i you know talked on the special about how i had that crowdrick clip go viral of this woman who was like oh my he's your boyfriend's my favorite comedian and he's he's so hot and all this stuff and uh it's like it's hard you you want your boyfriend to, right? Because that's a nice feeling when like other women find him so attractive.
But like, yeah, it's... But not too much.
Yeah, I get it. I do, which I think is like a very good sign that I'm like, no, like this is, I love him so much.
I care so much about us and him that i uh you don't want anything getting in the

middle of it yeah yeah i just yeah yeah it's like a good i think it comes from a place of passion i mean it's not like uh a psycho place it's just more of a like oh this is a feeling i like didn't know that i was going to feel so strongly and then i just said every girl to the judge yeah a bloody. I just, I do think you get older and it changes.
I get it. Like I am not at all.
I mean, I think I was more of a jealous type in my twenties, but I just was never, I just never really like, okay, if you don't like me or if you're whatever, well, someone else, then I guess that's not, I think it's laziness is actually what it is. Is it too lazy to get involved in my own emotions about any of that stuff? But I do see what you're saying is that, you know, I love my wife passionately and she's my one and I don't ever, I don't want to do this again.
Right. I want, we have, I like what we have and this is the best I, the best relationship I've ever been in and all those things.
And I do see what you're saying is I think it's maybe not jealousy. It's protection.
It's protection. Protection.
I want to protect me, my feelings, her, our relationship, and the family or the life that we've built. I want to protect that.
So it's more like a… Well, and travel too, I think, has something to do with it. Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you could be the most secure couple in the world, but if you're constantly away from each other. Right.
In different cities, you can't help but kind of be like, well, what's maybe happening at the bar for drinks one night or something? Yes, I think that that can play into it, too. By the way, you can have all the trust in the world.
That doesn't mean you're not human. That doesn't mean that like the mind abhors a vacuum.
So sometimes, and who is this bitch who's literally telling you to your face, your boyfriend is hot. You know, here's the thing.
I, I learned. Don't apologize for her.
No, no, no. I'm not.
It was a bad thing. I, I learned more about her afterward because, you know, when I had posted that clip and it has like 15 million views it's like oh my god um and she had commented being like i you know i truly meant no disrespect what she had meant by all of that was that she went to um one of chad's shows and her mom had passed away uh shortly before she went to one of his shows and in like the merch line afterwards she had told chad like how much that show meant to her uh like it might have i think maybe been the first time she had laughed since something like that had happened and uh that he was just like oh i'm so sorry that you've gone through that thank you for telling me that and so that was like, I think a lot of where her, her love for him was coming from.
But she, you know, I think had probably had some drinks at that, at my show and just was like getting pretty excited. But again, it's like, it's like that old Patrice O'Neill joke where it's like, you don't want to be with somebody who you like could send down the back alley in the middle of the night and like not worry about anybody like hitting on them.
There is part of you that wants your partner. Yes, of course.
Of course. But yeah, she.
And he touched her in a moment of vulnerability. And I'm sure that she felt like that was um i'm i'm putting words in her mouth of course but i suppose that what she felt was some sort of connection because in that moment she felt like he reached out to her and said something nice and you know when you're when there's a famous comic standing up there and then you and you admire their their work and then they connect with you.
It's like, oh, okay. I'm sure she meant it.
Like, I love your husband in a way that he was very nice and I made a special connection with him. There was zero ill intent.
I mean, her husband's sitting right there. Also, like, I don't know what it's like to be an audience member and have a comic talking.
I mean, it's like a lot of adrenaline, adrenaline i'm sure and it's not planned and you're just kind of like right yeah going with i'm sure if i was in like the reverse situation i might at some time in my life say something where i like put my foot in my mouth we just it's hard to be on the other end of it right yeah but we were talking to ari shafir about this, like the people in the first couple of rows you know and how they go to a uh like a comedy show you know wherever it may be they go to a comedy show and there's this sense that they understand depending on who the who the comic is that they could be a target of the comedy right and like some people may enjoy that other people may not but how they react in the moment who knows right it's like a big x factor right yeah but yeah i think also part of um like feeling more protective of him and us is like i moved to minnesota in the month of january with this man like yes like we have life insurance we bought a house together it's taxes oh my state taxes. Oh, my God.
The state taxes are so... It's like, there is...
It's just a different level of seriousness, I guess. Investment.
And like... Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know.
Is there any interest? Has there been any discussion? This is a question, you know, that I probably shouldn't ask, but I'm going to ask. Has there been any conversation around getting married? Or is this or is this just like we're here we're doing it we don't need to put it on paper um no we we do want to get married we've just done everything so backwards that it's i mean which we've like loved and it's been fun and and great uh but you know we like bought a house then we got life insurance and uh and it's like it's kind of fun to know that this is it forever and know that we do want to get married but like there's still some fun things left that haven't happened yet right like yeah i i'm excited for us to get engaged and get married because we have already checked off like some of the big things and once you do them it's kind's kind of like you checked it off.
Like buying a house together is such a fun, cool thing to do. And, you know, once you do it, you're like, okay, we did it.
And I think having those things to look forward to is kind of like a fun, healthy thing. All right.
I was just wondering if I needed to call Chad. No, no, no.
The benefits of locking it up, Chad. We're locked up, but yeah, it's a, it is exciting to think about happening.
Where did you film the special? I shot it in Madison, Wisconsin, comedy on state. Yes.
And so did you do this over? I mean, I don't want to give away all the magic, but was this a couple of nights that then you strung together? Or did you just do one night and then you had callbacks? Yeah, we did one night and two shows in that night. And two shows in that night.
So answer me this. I noticed that it's on two platforms.
Is that right? Yes. It's on Hulu and YouTube.
Okay, so why is that? I'm very curious as to why this is. I don't recall at least seeing this.
This 800-pound gorilla, right? Yeah. We've had a lot of comics on who've had specials on 800-pound gorilla.
Good for them supporting good comedy. So why is it double-platformed? So I have also never done this before.
And I think it's something pretty new that Hulu's trying. There are pros and cons to it, right? If you have something come out on one platform, every audience member that's watching it is going to that one place, right? Like the views aren't getting divided up.
So that is one downside is like, you know, the Hulu views aren't public, like even I don't know what the views are yet now that it's yeah um but the upside is if you are putting a special out exclusively on youtube there are a lot of like bigger press outlets that wouldn't have you on to promote it if it's just a youtube special but as soon as a a streamer is involved, then people go, oh, okay.

Well, now we'll have you on.

Case in point, the commercial break.

The commercial break. You guys were like, look,

we like you. We can't have you

do this YouTube thing again. We gotta

spice it up. If we had every Yahoo

with a YouTube special on, we'd do nothing

but Yahoo's.

You gotta bring that Hulu

in here. Yeah.

That's what we told Kyle Kinane. I said, hey, I'll have you on when you get on a streamer.
Okay. But not, yeah, we can't have this.
Not yet. Yeah.
So like, it's been a little bit of a learning process of seeing, okay, like, this is something I like about doing it like this. This is something I kind of don't like, but I can't say yet what I'm about to do, but I'm about to do a big press thing in like a week and a half that wouldn't,

it wouldn't have been possible if we didn't also have it come out on Hulu the same day. So yeah.
Well, I actually think it's a good idea, right? We talk about this a lot is like being multi-platformed is so important. And I think the more opportunity you have to get in front of eyeballs or ears or whatever it is to share your work, your creativity, you're taking a lot of time, energy, and effort.
This is what you do. It comes from, I'm sure, a lot of internal strife and struggle and hard work.
And you want as many people to see that as possible. Not everybody has access to Hulu.
Not everybody can either afford it or has it or whatever the reason may be and youtube is such a zhurgonaut i mean they are you know they're there's more watching going on on youtube right now for the first time ever than any all the television platforms put together so youtube is a player in the market and so yeah yeah i think it makes a lot of sense that you would put this out.

Has there been generally positive feedback about this special?

I was reading through the comments on YouTube, which is where I watched it.

I was reading some of the comments.

And unbelievably, most of them are so very good toward the special.

And that's not... YouTube is the cesspool in the comments section.

I don't usually read it. But I saw a bunch of people were just raving about your special.
Oh, thank you. Yeah.
I feel very, very fortunate that that's been the case. It's just really nice to read such nice things.
And yeah, that's, again, put that in the column of upsides for putting it on YouTube is that you do get to see positive feedback and you do get to interact with the people who are watching it. And that means a lot to me.
So, yeah, it's like it's ultimately you just want as many eyeballs on it as possible, because I think most of us comics, the thing we want at the end of the day is for people to come see us on tour. So it's like, whether you watched it on Hulu or YouTube, if you watched it and you were like, oh, I want to see her live, then we're like, great, that's a win.
Yeah, because I would imagine, I don't know, but I would imagine, and after having talked to a lot of comics, that the money that you make living that you make is by and large done through live shows yes it's not like hulu's paying you a million dollars for the rights to stream your special right you may get some money out of them or you and i would imagine that i if i were in a comic and i was up and coming and you know or trying to make a break i would might even would, might even say, you can have this special, just put it on your platform. Like just put it on your platform.
Right. And then if it does well, then we can talk about it in a year or whatever.
Maybe we can do another special. So I can see how this is really a driver to get more people to show up where you really make your bread and butter, which is at the live shows.
Right. Exactly.
Yeah. So it's, it's like I said, been a learning experience.
What a weird at the live shows right exactly yeah so it's it's like i said yeah it all works together yeah exactly because again it's not like it's not like a netflix deal where you're getting this like big paycheck up front or even like a hulu exclusive deal where you're getting a big paycheck it is like a you know a situation where they are licensing it they're putting it up there but you're also putting it on youtube so you you're mostly in this particular situation like okay how do we get it seen by a lot of people and then drive ticket sales but um you know my last special the hustler on youtube it only went on youtube to start and it has almost 4 million views now it's like crazy what that's crazy and i had like no expectation, you know, as my first special, I was like, well, we're putting on YouTube. Let's see.
That changed my life. It completely changed my touring.
It's just nuts what the power of YouTube is now. Yeah.
If you have 4 million views, you're not only putting some butts in seats, but then at the same time, you leverage to have those conversations with you know disney executives if i'm you and i'm trying to get on your manager yeah i want to be your manager uh i'm so fascinated by the inner work piece of all this if you if if i'm you or if i'm managing you here's what i'm saying kelsey will do this special for free free but I need an all expenses paid vacation to Disney World once a year which is the equivalent of about a million dollars worth of net revenue yeah yeah corn dogs are 42 dollars you know yeah those fucking pretzel heads those Mickey pretzel heads they're like 15 dollars a piece I believe it it's insane i've heard it's insane um so you're out on tour currently where are where are you looking tell me about the places that you i mean i know you're not going to tell me that you don't like any places to go i get the the politics of that but tell me about i'll tell you some places oh tell me some places i would maybe tell you a couple but yeah um do you really want to know places I don't like to meet? Tell me both. Yes, of course I do.
That's the more interesting conversation, but I'm trying to get my way in the back door here a little bit. Well, I will say one place that I truly was like, you know what, I don't think I could go back here.
This was just like a very tough experience, but I think understandably that I wouldn't want to go back. I did the Syracuse Funny Bone.
Gosh, this is like maybe two, three years ago. And it's in a mall.
And right before the show was about to start, there was a shooting in the mall. And the manager came back to the green room and was like, okay, there's an active shooter in the mall.
And when you hear the words active shooter, you picture trench coat like that. Like, there's an active shooter in the mall and when you hear the words active shooter you picture trench coat like yes that like there's no in particular target that like it's just you know what i mean and so i i start crying i'm terrified i'm like this is these are the things you read the news in and you go i just hope i'm never in that situation and there's somebody telling you like you're in this situation right now.
Like, you're in the mall. There's an active shooter.
Oh, my God. And so the mall got evacuated.
Show got canceled. We found out later that it was like a gang shooting.
It was targeted. It wasn't like active shooter was a little bit of a scary.
It little dramatic but in the fog of war they don't

know yeah yeah and i was just like the place where the shooting happened i was just walking in that area of them all like oh my god 30 minutes before that uh and so it's this is not like a dig to the people of syracuse because i i am sure like the crowds there would be fun i i think i had done like maybe two shows the night before that and i think i had a fine time but uh i looked online after the shooting and turns out like there are shootings in that mall like every month and i just was like yeah you know yeah i just i can go to twin falls sure yeah it's like buffalo go back and do a different venue, but that was when I was like, that, I just... Yeah.
Not going back. It's too much to worry about anyway.
I don't want to go to a place where there's like shootings all the time. You have PTSD.
Yeah, and I think it doesn't matter whether or not it was a targeted shooting. To me, it wouldn't matter or not.
I don't care. A gun, where someone's...
If someone's pointing a gun in an open mall,'m like fuck all that i just don't want anything to do with it and exactly and we do hear about this so often that it's a trigger word i think for everybody you know it's a real trigger word for for is for me as a parent that every time i hear the word school and gun and it happens frequently right every time i hear that, I just go in sheer panic. Not because I think it's happening at the school my kids go to, but because it happens so often.
Someday it could be the school that my kid goes to. It can happen to everywhere.
Of course. Horrifying.
During the winter, I'm sure that you must enjoy getting down to warmer places when you're traveling do you like arrange or have your manager arrange your tour schedule to get you to a few warm places you know i could be i could probably be a little more strategic about that with my agent let's get that manager um i like this was my first winter in minnesota that it really felt like what people describe as a true Minnesota winter like those temperatures I I just didn't believe that that was happening like in the U.S. Wasn't it like minus 20 or something? Yeah.
30 or something at one time yeah I listened to this local station up there the NPR station up there the current it's a great radio station if you're ever looking okay not that anybody's listening to the radio anymore no you can also listen we listen online yeah uh but i hear the temperature up there um frequently and it was like yeah negative 30 one day yeah um chad is from fergus falls which is this town i love the name fergus so cute it is very cute i know fer Falls. It sounds like something from like Schitt's Creek, right? It's very wholesome sounding.
So it's in Northern Minnesota. And I guess a while ago, there was a polar vortex there where it was like minus 50.
It's like something crazy. And he said that if you touch the doorknob of your house, but from the inside, that it would burn your oh my god from the inside oh my god that's how cold metal i mean oh yeah no thanks no thank you yeah i just have an allergy to the cold weather i really do i mean we live in atlanta and it got cold down here too but um you know for me it's i grew up in chicago and i think i've done my penance i've done my time i would rather stay down where it's just a little bit warmer if i can avoid that like i don't i'm not interested in going on a ski vacation people call me and you know people like texting hey we're gonna go skiing wherever and i'm like fuck that you're gonna go to be cold you're gonna go somewhere cold no thank you i'll take my chances to grow up with it to be used to it.
Well, she moved there. I mean.
Yeah. You're from Washington.
Yeah, I'm from Spokane. It's not that warm.
Yeah, Spokane is very seasonal. It gets cold in the winter.
We have snow, but not, feels like minus 26. No, it is snow.
Minneapolis is its own thing. Something else.
Up there, yeah. Okay.
It's probably the lakes that are up there. It's the land of lakes.
It's the land of lakes. I see it on my cream box every day when I make coffee and eat cereal.
Land of lakes. That's us.
I think that's where my cream comes from. I'd like to think so anyway.
When I'm looking at my cream box, I just imagine a rolling field with snow. Beautiful place.
Cows. Butters being turned.
Beautifully appointed. Churning butter.
By hand. Yes.
Here's a funny, like a little funny side note. I watched a couple of days ago, like a National Geographic special on Antwik, the coldest place on earth where people inhabit, which is up in like, I don't know, somewhere in Russia or one of the former ussr states oh yeah and it regularly is like minus 75 degrees fahrenheit there for like seven months a year and the kids can go to school if it's minus 53 or warmer but they cannot go to school if it's minus 53 or colder.
They eat for breakfast strawberries and

churned whipped cream that's like their meal because it's got so much fat in it that's what they need to eat they need their constant and that's the only thing they can eat because it's the only thing you can stay fresh is the actual dairy that comes from the cows that i guess are able to survive in minus 75 degree fucking weather that sounds insane to me Like the way these people live is like they might as well be on a spaceship somewhere near Uranus. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me.
Again, it has to be just generational that you grow up. That's the only thing.
Nobody's going there. They have the body tolerance for that.
No one's visiting this town. Yeah.
Okay. So you get out your...
I'm cold now. Yeah, I know.
Yeah. So you get out your i'm cold now yeah i know yeah so you get out your special and now is it do you find it i'm sure in some ways it feels good creatively to go out there back on the road and are you knocking around the new material planning the next special essentially yeah the timing of this actually worked out really well where once mark your territory came came out a couple weeks ago, it had been 10 months since I shot it.
And so it gave me that amount of time to get a new hour put together. And so the hour I'm touring with right now is all completely different from the special, which is nice to be able to tell people when they comment like, oh, I want to watch the special, but I have tickets to can i watch this special and i'm like yes you can watch it and you can see me it's totally different so that's it's hard sometimes when you shoot a special and you're like oh my god i want it out right now but then you you probably would not have a new hour ready so it's kind of like finding that perfect spot strategy yeah i think i don't know who we were we were talking to a company samarill and he was explaining that like you know led zeppelin can have one hit and go tour on that for like 25 years yeah yes yeah but he was explaining that you know once the hour's out i can no longer do that materials like i can do some of the best you know i can do some of the greatest hits i can you know repurpose a joke here and there the thing that people like to hear, the favorite joke, quote unquote.
He said, but by and large, I got to come up with a new hour because no one's going to pay 50 bucks to see me if they know they can watch it on Netflix. It's just not going to happen.
Exactly. That must be tough.
Yeah. It's really, yeah.
I don't think it was always like this. I feel like this has been a really big shift in maybe the last 10 years where it became this expectation that you're putting out a new hour every like one to two years and it's like you're right i feel like that's been a change from like the days of eddie murphy or different other comedians from back in the 70s 80s could do the same thing a lot i know like some of our favorite art it's like rihanna's been talking about putting an album out now and i think it's been like eight years maybe longer like a decade so right yeah like justin timberlake put his album out last year and that had been i think almost a decade or something it's just crazy like that's what is expected that they get this time to like be inspired and live life and comics are just like desperately trying to like scrounge up material where we can find it and uh but you know it's kind of i think it's like a muscle that if you have that pressure and expectation in your mind you do kind of somehow come come up with it.
And I don't know. We're all just doing our best, I guess.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know.
I think that would be incredibly difficult to do. You look at Chris Rock.
I mean, what bring the pain was like, it killed us all, right? Oh my God, Chris Rock's stalking the stage like that over and over. He didn't come out with a new special until like a decade later.
It was like 10 years in between those specials and he was afforded that opportunity. And what did he do in between? I don't know, a few movies and a television appearance here and there.
And he just really paid off of that for a long time. But now I think the age of the internet, because we're all so used to seeing new content every single minute.
And social media. Yeah, that we can't just settle down and enjoy.
You can't just enjoy what you want, listener. You now have to demand that Kelsey come out with a new hour every 15 minutes.
It's not a reasonable expectation. Watch her special and then go buy her tickets.
See her do Stairway to Heaven. Yes, my my my stairway to heaven my black dog uh you're so right that it's social media too where our specials we end up like kind of cannibalizing them and turning them into clips immediately because we're trying to get people to watch the special and we're trying to get into the algorithm and push tour tickets and so you can take like an hour special and essentially turn it into 60 clips you know that would be kind of a lot but uh but once you run out you're like oh i need to shoot another special because i don't have new clips it's like that's also a really big part of it is unless you're relying heavily on like crowd work clips or podcast clips, having new special clips really like infuses your channels with like new life blood.
Like, oh my God, yes. I have something new to post.
More. Yes.
Yeah. It's, I mean, it's a sickness.
It's like, it's horrible. Well, if you ever need any mediocre comedy to distribute on your social media platform, feel free to knock us up.
We do like 60 of these shows a week. Oh, my gosh.
We're turning. Speaking of turning butter, this commercial break never stops.
That's for sure. That's amazing, though.
Kelsey Cook. Brand new special out on YouTube and on Hulu.
Yeah. We would highly encourage all of our listeners to go listen to the special.
And then regardless of whether or not Kelsey's going to do old material or new material, we encourage, and she'll do new material. It's all really funny.
It's all funny. You laugh harder in person because that's the way that it is.
And listen to your podcast with Chad. Yes.
Pretend problems. Pretend problems.
Chad and I. Oh, sorry.
Go ahead. No, go ahead.
You, please. Oh, I just say, Chad and I have a few tour dates together in April.
Oh, really? That we're doing for the first time. So we'll be in Long Island, Montclair, New Jersey, and Philly doing a couple theaters and a casino.
So, yeah, please come see us there. We're really excited for that.
Okay, now tell Chad to settle down. There's room for both of you at the top.
I mean, you guys could be, this could be Desi and Arnaz, right? You know what I'm saying? You guys could be, you guys could be the next power couple out there. Speaking of Justin Timberlake, you could be Britlake.
I saw you were at the Justin Timberlake concert. Was that you? Look at you.
She's a JT fan. I mean, aren't we all? I am.
JT fan Lifelong, insane fan, all of it I do bop my head to his music when the kids play it, or Astrid plays it I do, I can't say I'm the biggest fan but there are a couple songs Is it In the Mirror? Looking in the Mirror? Oh, Mirror, yeah He played that on Saturday Night Live once with a full horn section He was really funny really funny on Saturday Night Live, too. Yes, he was really funny on Saturday Night Live.
And then he ran that stop sign in Montauk. Well, then the Hamptons.
And then the Hamptons. I know.
The Hamptons. And then we all turned on Justin.
Uber. Every famous person that has money should use Uber.
I know. Kelsey, we're going to give you one piece of advice because we've done so many of these stories, it's not even funny.
Uber. Okay.
Thank you. Uber.
You're managed to get wasted. Thank you.
Yes. I had manager to get you a drug.
Yeah. You and Chad drink all the tequila you want.
Oh, thank you. We're boring now.
We've both been sober for like almost a year, but. We talked about this the last time you were here.
Congratulations. I bet you feel great.
Oh, we do. I mean it's just, you get older and you're like, it's too much.
I can't. I'm already just tired from like not sleeping right anyway.
It's hard to add hangovers to it. Yeah.
Passing out and sleeping are two totally different things. You only know that once you get sober or once you kind of clean up for a while.
I haven't had, I don't drink. I mean, be like i'm not a teetotaler i would never ever not have another drink that's not yeah i don't go to aa meetings but i haven't because i have children i haven't had drinks in a long time i haven't gotten drunk in a long time and i will tell you what uh there is something about it that has been quite life altering in so many different ways that are easy to see now in

hindsight, but would have been difficult to understand when I was drunk.

Yes.

So I feel the exact same way.

It's hard to actually be like, okay, am I really going to stop doing this completely?

But it does feel so good that it's, I don't know.

It hasn't been quite as hard as I thought.

You don't even want it.

Like it feels so good.

You don't want to drink. Like you're like, oh, I'll do it.
Once like once you get out of the habit yeah do you really want to wake up hungover tomorrow no probably not right because that kid's gonna be bouncing on my face at five in the morning and I don't want to deal with it uh please please tell Chad we said hello you are welcome here thank you guys anytime Kelsey and we appreciate you coming back you one of the few who agreed to it. You guys are so, it's always really nice to talk to you guys.
Anytime, Kelsey. And we appreciate you coming back.
You're one of the few who agreed to it.

You guys

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Thank you for having me back. Oh, congratulations.

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TNCs apply. Ah, good old Kelsey Cook.
I do enjoy me some Kelsey Cook. I do too.
Yeah, she's really, really sweet. She's solid.
She's solid. But don't let that fool you.
Go to watch her special with your kids' earmuffs on because she's good. I think one of my favorite jokes was using a bidet in the middle of Minneapolis in the winter.
It's like getting local anesthesia on your asshole. I think one of my favorite ones was about her trying to connect with the daughter, Chad's daughter.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the whole Instagram thing.
Oh. The daughter said, I'm unfollowing your girlfriend, by the way.
Well, she'll probably unfollow us, too, after this appearance. But we do like Kelsey Cook.
And KelseyCook.com is where you get more information about her tour, about her specials, and about her podcast that she shares with that boyfriend. I think maybe in the future, according to her, might be a husband, but we don't care.
We like Kelsey either way. And Chad.
And Chad. But Chad hasn't come on the show yet.
No. What's up with Chad? Didn't we invite him on last time she was here? We said, hey, tell Chad if he wants to come on, he can come on.
I don't know, but we have done the whole wife-husband thing with Hannah. Des.
That's right. Yeah.
Des Bishop, he's also got his own podcast. He was a repeat, too, with us.
He was a repeat. Reggie Watts was a repeat.
I think there are a couple more repeats. Some of your favorite guests coming back up because they can't get enough of the commercial break.
Listen, they all want to be like Kelsey Cook. They all want their careers to go skyrocketing to the moon.
Yes. Yes.
Des Bishop, Reggie Watts, Kelsey Cook, who will be next? Stay tuned. Stay tuned, you.
More surprises to come. Anyway, KelseyCook.com.
We appreciate her coming in. We really do.
And she's welcome anytime. She's one of those.
And Des and Reggie are one of those, too. There's lots of them, but there's a couple of them where you're like, yeah, of course.
It's too easy to talk to you. I know.
We could do it for hours. And then there's a couple that you know, it's probably a mutual agreement that maybe not.
Maybe the course of breaks, not the place for me.

And I would say, maybe not.

You're right.

I never thought it'd get to the day where I'd say, well, no, thanks celebrity.

Don't come on the show.

I'd like to have Heather again, but she might be too big.

I don't think Heather McMahon is coming back on the show.

We caught her.

See another one.

Another one.

She came on our podcast.

Heather McMahon.

Hannah Berner.

Kelsey Kirk.

Career explosion in a good way.

Yeah.

It seems like we have the Midas touch for everybody but ourselves.

I know. Another one.
Another one. She came on our podcast.
Heather McMahon. Hannah Berner.
Explosion. Kelsey Kirk.
Career explosion in a good way. Yeah.
It seems like we have the Midas touch for everybody but ourselves. Exactly.
Yes. The Midas touch for everybody but ourselves.
And then I saw Felipe Esparza on Joe Rogan. Now listen, whatever you think about Joe Rogan, he is sometimes the king of the hill.
And to be on his podcast is a big deal. And I just saw him on Joe's podcast.
I saw that too. A clip of him.
I saw that he was on there too. And I heard that Rosebud Baker was on the Today Show.
Rosebud Baker on the Today Show, on the Tonight Show. Yeah.
Wow. Maybe there is something to this commercial break.
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