TCB Infomercial: Kelsey Cook Returns!

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Speaker 1 and making a triumphant return to the show is Kelsey. Kelsey, welcome back.
Yay! Hi, guys.

Speaker 2 Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 Well, we couldn't be happier that you agreed to come back on the show.

Speaker 1 Not something that happens very often. Surprise? We're surprised.

Speaker 1 You guys are great. I love it.

Speaker 1 You know, we often say on the show that there's only two reasons why someone comes on the show. They're on their way up or on their way down.

Speaker 1 But you are definitely on the way up.

Speaker 3 The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, Cats and Kittens. Welcome back to the Commercial Break.
I'm Brian Greene. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Chris and Joy.
Holy best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian.

Speaker 3 Best to you out there in the podcast universe. TCB Infomercial Tuesday with yet another repeat customer, Kelsey Cook.
I can't believe it. Seeing her moment.

Speaker 3 She's seeing her moment. She's having her moment.
She's coming on the show, even though she's much more popular than she was even just six months ago, which I find hard to believe. Thank you, Kelsey.

Speaker 5 Obviously, our show helped catapult her

Speaker 5 into the realm of superstardom.

Speaker 3 No doubt that we played a huge role in her success, and I'd like to take credit for that. And I'd like her to admit that here on the show.

Speaker 3 That if it wasn't for the commercial break, she wouldn't, in fact, have a new special out on Hulu and YouTube.

Speaker 3 And if it wasn't for the fact that she came on the commercial break, she would not be as popular and making as much money as she is right now.

Speaker 3 And when she admits that, I'll be happy as long as she gives us tickets to her next appearance here in Atlanta. That's one thing we need to ask all our guests.

Speaker 3 If you come to Atlanta, backstage passes, drink tickets for the kids, and a bucket of popcorn. Yep.
That's what I would like. Yes.
Those are our demands. Yes, those are our demands.

Speaker 3 That's our rider, Kelsey Cook. And I'll have you know that I will take no shit.
I will take nothing less than free popcorn at your next event.

Speaker 3 KelseyCook.com is where you can find more information about Kelsey, all of her tour dates. She's on an extensive extensive tour right now, so I'm sure she's coming somewhere close to you.

Speaker 3 So go to KelseyCook.com to buy those tickets and the brand new special on Hulu and YouTube, which I'd like to ask her about.

Speaker 5 It's so funny, I have to say. It's from beginning to end.
It's really funny.

Speaker 3 Everybody here has watched the special. Everybody has given it a.

Speaker 3 They've given it a Michelin star. Well, and I think we were talking about this earlier.

Speaker 5 I think what makes it even funnier is because she does not look like the person that is saying the stories that she's saying.

Speaker 3 No, it's true.

Speaker 3 No, it's true. You're right.

Speaker 3 She,

Speaker 3 yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say. I mean, Kelsey is, she very much looks,

Speaker 3 she very much looks like a innocent

Speaker 3 Midwestern girl. Yeah.
Yeah. And that's, that's no knock.
I mean, no knock on the way that she looks. She's beautiful.

Speaker 3 But I'm just saying, when, you know, there's certain, like when you look at Madison from Love is Blind,

Speaker 3 right? So she looks like a troublemaker. Yeah.
Right. She just, in those eyes, there are years of experience, and she looks like a troublemaker.

Speaker 3 But when you look at someone like Kelsey, she seems like she could do no wrong, right? She's just seems like a very innocent,

Speaker 3 nice human being. But when you watch her special, you realize that there's some dirt behind those eyes.
I'd like to talk to her about that, too. Of course, she's got the podcast also that

Speaker 3 she does with her boyfriend.

Speaker 3 Yeah. She does with her boyfriend Chad, who's also a very famous, very popular comedian.
Hold on one second because I'm looking at Hulu here.

Speaker 3 She's got a link on her website and I am trying to, oh, watch on YouTube. Hold on one second.
Let me see if I can pull this up.

Speaker 3 The hustler is the one that she did a couple of years ago was the hustler. And then Mark Your Territory is the new one.

Speaker 3 I wanted to mistakenly call it the hustler, but it's Mark Your Territory is the new special. 800 Pound Gorilla, who is supporting great comedy.
800 Pound Gorilla has a ton of comedy specials.

Speaker 3 And I don't know who those people are, but they're doing great work to support good comedians. And I say, yay, sir, yay to you.

Speaker 3 So Kelsey will be on in just a few minutes. While we're at it,

Speaker 3 we'll talk more extensively about this later on in the week, but I wanted to share that on last week's show, we were talking about Love is Blind. Yes.
I was talking about Madison.

Speaker 3 And I was talking about how Madison was having a conversation with one of the guys in the pods. And one of the guys in the pods started to catch on to her shenanigans a little bit, right?

Speaker 3 And he pushed back. He said, hey, listen, I don't think I could deal with the way that you handle things.
Or that's not the way that I would handle it.

Speaker 3 That's not the way I would prefer it to be handled.

Speaker 5 And so while I did conflicts, I think it was conflicts.

Speaker 3 Attachment style. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Conflicts. Then there was another question about sex.
There was another question about the way that you deal with.

Speaker 3 The way that you run away when someone does something, avoidance, the way that you don't want your partner to be involved in fixing you. And he just, all these little hints that she was dropping,

Speaker 3 he kind of picked up on and said, that wouldn't be good for me, actually. I don't like that.
Kudos to him.

Speaker 5 And kudos to him. He probably wouldn't have said it if he had been seeing her.

Speaker 3 If he had looked at her. I agree with you there.
I agree.

Speaker 3 If she was at the bar and they were having that conversation face to face, I said it before, I'll say it again.

Speaker 3 He would have rolled like a puppy dog because those eyes are like, I don't know, like the Cheshire Cat little swirling eyes that

Speaker 3 hypnotize you. You're like,

Speaker 3 but now,

Speaker 3 because we're talking about it here, my phone's listening, I'm getting all of these reels about Love is Blind.

Speaker 3 And I come to find out that this guy, and I don't want to give the name away because I want, if you haven't watched Love is Blind, I want you to be able to watch it without interference from Brian.

Speaker 3 But this guy, apparently, is not the dorky, nerdy kid who he claimed to be, number one. And number two, he's not the nice guy that he claimed to be, according to some people in Minnesota.

Speaker 5 I cannot believe that somebody on reality television is lying.

Speaker 3 Do you know what I mean? I mean,

Speaker 5 it seems unfathomable.

Speaker 3 It seems unreal that we would get a twisted story from the producers of such hits as

Speaker 3 Baby Reindeer.

Speaker 3 Love is blind. Did you cheat on me lately? I mean, whatever that is.

Speaker 5 What's the other show they did that Nick and Vanessa do?

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 are you the one? Oh, yeah, ultimate. Ultimatum.
Yeah, which is a terrible show. It really is.
Put your loved one in with another attractive human being and

Speaker 3 sex. But it's a terrible idea.
It's a terrible idea.

Speaker 1 It's a cheating factory.

Speaker 3 It's great for TV. Yeah, it's a cheating factory.

Speaker 3 And by the way, no one that walks into those ultimatum, which is couples go in together and they get to like peruse around the other couples to see if there's someone they like better.

Speaker 3 No one who's secure in their relationship would ever go on that show. No,

Speaker 3 you think I would bring Astrid into a room full of hot 30-something guys? No, because I don't stand a chance. I don't stand a chance.
I try and keep her.

Speaker 3 Actually, I try and keep Astrid out of all rooms with hot 30-something guys. That's it.
That's my rules. Those are my rules.

Speaker 3 But anyway, these women in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, are a talking. They're a yapping.
That's what I've heard. And there's a through line here because Kelsey Cook is living in Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 Am I right about this? Yes. Okay, she's living in Minneapolis.

Speaker 5 She moved in with Chad, or they bought a house together. They bought a house together.

Speaker 3 I won't waste her time on Love is Blind, but just know that there's a through line here.

Speaker 3 Apparently, a lot of the guys that are on Love is Blind this season have a lot of dirt, and there's a lot of people around them that are willing to spill that tea on social media because there's not one guy who is featured on this show that doesn't have some drama about him right now out there on the internet.

Speaker 3 So while I said this was the slowest season of Love is Blind, it is on the show. But outside the show on social media, things are just heating up.
KelseyCook.com, go get tour tickets.

Speaker 3 Check her special out on Hulu or YouTube. There are links on her website.
We have links in the show notes.

Speaker 3 And please check out her and Chad's podcast, which is available everywhere you listen to podcasts. Wherever you're listening to us now, you can listen to their podcast.
I think that dropped us weekly.

Speaker 3 Am I right? I think so. I listened to a couple episodes.
I actually thought it was pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, they have like a little factory, a little comedy factory going on up there in Minneapolis.

Speaker 5 And I think they're going on tour together.

Speaker 3 Well, let's see. We'll ask her all about it when we get back.

Speaker 3 I'll tell you what. Let's do this.
Let's take a short break. Through the magic.
And then when we get back through the magic of telepodcasting, we'll bring Kelsey Cook in and we'll have a conversation.

Speaker 1 What do you think?

Speaker 3 Let's do it. All right.
We'll be back.

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Speaker 1 And making a triumphant return to the show is Kelsey. Kelsey, welcome back.
Yay! Hi, guys.

Speaker 2 Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 Well, we couldn't be happier that you agreed to come back on the show.

Speaker 1 Not something that happens very often. Surprise? We're surprised.

Speaker 1 You guys are great. I love it.

Speaker 1 You know, we often say on the show that there's only two reasons why someone comes on the show. They're on their way up or on their way down.

Speaker 1 You are definitely on the way up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Congratulations and all your success since we talked to you last.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much, guys.

Speaker 2 You guys are so nice.

Speaker 1 We were talking

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 before we started recording.

Speaker 1 We were sharing that she just saw you did a couple of big shows or a big show at the Wilbur in Boston in just the last, how long was it when how long ago was it when we talked to you?

Speaker 1 Just like six months ago, right?

Speaker 5 I feel like it's six, six to eight months.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in six or eight months, you have gone on quite the run. And all credit to you and the comedy that you're putting together, which is resonating with people.

Speaker 1 And let me ask you this: when you're in this moment, does it feel like things are heating up? Do you get this sense? Like, oh my gosh, I have a special coming out. I'm selling out shows.

Speaker 1 I'm doing theaters. Does it feel like that? Or is it too fast and furious to take a breath and recognize?

Speaker 2 That's a good question. I'm trying to stop and smell the roses and all of that because

Speaker 2 this business is really that way where if you don't, it's like once you get there, there disappears, right? It's like you get to where you're trying to get to. And then you're like, okay, now what?

Speaker 2 And you're always just looking for the next thing.

Speaker 2 But it's just, that's such a slippery slope into not being happy because

Speaker 2 there is kind of no limit in this career.

Speaker 2 It's like you see the people at the top of the mountain and stand up and it's like, oh my God, it's such a different thing now it's like you become a full rock star essentially right and so i think uh it's really easy to feel like you're never doing enough and i i have really been trying hard to be like okay this is so cool like Especially if there are bucket list things happening, I'm like, okay, I need to really stop and appreciate this because this is a really great feeling.

Speaker 1 Was the Wilbur or selling out a theater like that was a storied history? Was that like one of those bucket list things?

Speaker 1 Like, oh my gosh, I can, I'm standing here in a place where so many other comedians have

Speaker 2 absolutely.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I have to, just because I'll feel like gross if I don't correct you. We didn't sell it out, but a lot of people came and it was great.
But

Speaker 2 I can't just think, yeah, we sold that. We didn't sell that one out.
But there have been a lot of sold-out shows on tour so far, which has felt great.

Speaker 2 But yeah, getting to do the Wilbur was, I mean, that's just such like an iconic venue. And

Speaker 2 the last time I was in Boston was at the comedy club and we had sold out that whole weekend.

Speaker 2 And so I think that was a really great feeling of like, okay, I did kind of the best I could do at the club. And now, because of that, I'm getting to do this bucket list thing.

Speaker 2 And that, like, when you can see those changes in your career,

Speaker 2 like getting to do theaters has been the coolest feeling.

Speaker 1 I am so happy for you. I think that that's really cool.

Speaker 1 I've just enjoyed watching

Speaker 1 nice people succeed, good people succeed.

Speaker 1 I take great pleasure in it. It gives me zero hope that the commercial break will ever get to that level because I'm not a good person.

Speaker 3 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 There's plenty of shitty people who succeed in this business.

Speaker 1 Don't you worry about it. Thank you.
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 There's a lot worse people. Shitty people deserve love, too.

Speaker 2 It's your night. You're so nice.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Thank you.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 1 who are the people at the top of the... Who do you, whose career do you admire right now? Like, who do you look at and you go, oh my gosh, they're doing such a great job.

Speaker 1 And I, you know, I aspire to that. Or maybe not even aspire, but you, you can,

Speaker 1 I guess you look at them and you go, they've

Speaker 2 really crushing it.

Speaker 2 I mean, a couple people that...

Speaker 2 come to mind right away are obviously like Taylor Tomlinson, who's one of my best friends,

Speaker 2 and uh Nikki Glazer also one of my friends having this massive moment right now uh and

Speaker 2 seeing the level of work that those two put in is truly mind-blowing it's like um you know I look at Taylor who's hosting after midnight during the day right and then touring

Speaker 2 on the weekends and it's like she she actually does not have free time. It is like she doesn't have a life.

Speaker 2 She is constantly grinding and it's just so impressive. And I'm so proud of her because it does,

Speaker 2 I don't know, it just makes you go, oh, wow, like that is possible to be excelling at that level. So,

Speaker 2 and I think that's what I mean before where. the sky is the limit now in stand-up like people are doing so much beyond just like touring and I think I've had to

Speaker 2 maybe like like recalibrate my goals a little bit and be like, okay, what is actually

Speaker 2 important to me? Like, do I want

Speaker 2 the biggest amount of fame, the whatever, all that stuff? And knowing that with that can also come a lifestyle that I also don't really want.

Speaker 2 So kind of trying to find that balance of like, I of course want to just keep getting better and better at stand-up and growing my fan base, but knowing that I like, I mean, I love living in Minnesota and having this very normal life when I'm not on tour and like playing pickleball with my boyfriend right there.

Speaker 2 You know, like, I

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 2 the balance I have in my life. And so, yeah, just

Speaker 2 trying to figure out like what I ultimately want, I guess.

Speaker 1 We have these conversations all the time. We have these Dolulu conversations all the time.
Chrissy and I do. Like, there are steps you can take to move outside of the RSS feed, so to speak.

Speaker 1 Like, we live very much in this RSS bubble. We do the show at our, you know, here in a local studio, and we live regular lives outside of this.

Speaker 1 But there are lots of podcasters, mainly comedians who do this out there, who have this level of fame and success where I think that their lives are altered because they are outside the RSS feed, outside of that bubble.

Speaker 1 And so Chrissy and I often say, what would it be like to live outside that bubble or if we took steps to live outside of that bubble?

Speaker 1 And I can see what you're saying because maybe your life changes in a way that doesn't feel

Speaker 1 like it sounds great, but then when it happens, maybe it's not.

Speaker 1 Like when you can't go to the grocery store without people asking for an autograph or take a picture, or can you do a reel with me or whatever, people start to get this sense of, you know, they want to encroach on a universe that's been exclusively yours or you and your boyfriends, and that feels good to you.

Speaker 1 It feels good to go out, get the adoration, do what you do, kill it, and then come home and be a normal person.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And it's funny because I

Speaker 2 had looked up to my boyfriend for so long in comedy because I just so admired that he had achieved the goals he wanted to and stand up without having to like live a life that he didn't want to.

Speaker 2 You know, he didn't come up in LA, didn't come up in New York. He has stayed in Minnesota.
This is the whole time where he's from originally and had his Netflix special come out last year.

Speaker 2 Like he is, and now he's like selling all of his shows and I just was like, wow, that's such a cool life. And I was like, well, now I'm with them forever.
So it's great.

Speaker 1 It's like the best.

Speaker 1 They're like a little incubator over there in Minnesota. Oh, I know.
I have family up there

Speaker 5 in Minneapolis. My husband's brother and his family live up there.
And I love it whenever I go visit up there. It's fantastic.

Speaker 5 It's great. I've been in the winter, and yes, it's freezing.
But there's also times when it's not. And it's just a beautiful city.
I love the people there.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, it's exactly what you said.
The winters are insane and like

Speaker 2 make you feel like I can't be alive right now. This is like

Speaker 2 minus 18 feels like minus 26.

Speaker 2 Yeah, your eyelashes just like snap pop. I mean, it's like not normal living conditions for a human being.
Our poor dog, when he has to go outside

Speaker 2 to shit in that weather, it's like a power poop.

Speaker 1 It's like you've never seen a dog poop so fast in his life.

Speaker 2 He like sprints, poops, sprints back in. It's just insanity.
So, but yeah, and it's like also such a great city to tour out of.

Speaker 2 If like touring is your primary thing in your career, it's like Minneapolis is very central. It's a lot of non-stop flights.
The time zone change isn't crazy either way.

Speaker 2 And so, yeah, I never thought that that would be like a smart move. You don't think like you go to Minneapolis and your career flourishes.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 LA is like a very hard city to tour out of. It's, you're so far in the corner.
Going to New York is like a five-hour flight.

Speaker 1 It's miserable. Yeah, it's a miserable flight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, three-hour time chain. It's just a lot.
So it's weird that you don't think of Minneapolis as being this like glitzy place for a career, but it actually, like,

Speaker 1 it is Prince. That's right.
That's all you got to say.

Speaker 1 Prince never went out of Minneapolis. That's all.

Speaker 2 That's all you got to say.

Speaker 1 He literally made Minneapolis like ground zero for this.

Speaker 5 I know. I've got to get up to Paisley Park.

Speaker 1 Have you been to Paisley Park?

Speaker 2 I haven't been, but I've been told I need to go, especially living here.

Speaker 1 So on my list. Okay, so your new special, fantastic.
Everybody here has watched it. It's like required reading.
Beginning to end.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And

Speaker 1 I'll say this, the ladies, including Astrid, Tina, Chrissy, all just raved about this special. I think it really resonates.

Speaker 1 And I thought it was very funny also. I don't see you as the jealous type.

Speaker 1 That surprised me. That's like

Speaker 1 the biggest surprise eye-opener of the entire special was like, she's not jealous. Is she a jealous type? She seems so mild-mannered.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, I am mild-mannered, but it's kind of like what I said in the joke that it wasn't until my 30s that that switch kind of flipped. And I don't know if it's like a primal caveman thing

Speaker 2 where once I was with Chad and you know, it's like you get a little bit older and I think you, you can tell that like death is not, this is dark to say, but like

Speaker 1 death is not it's not this like

Speaker 2 thing that you're just like oh yeah so it's like you get a little older and you meet the person that you're like oh this is this is my forever person and then there is at least for me something set in of like i need to like again mark my territory like guard this person

Speaker 2 and uh and of course because he's also like a touring comedian, he has tons of fans. Women love him.

Speaker 2 I, you know, talked on the special about how I had that crowd work clip go viral of this woman who was like, oh my, he's, your boyfriend's my favorite comedian.

Speaker 1 And he's insane to me.

Speaker 2 He's so hot and all this stuff. And

Speaker 2 it's like, it's hard.

Speaker 2 You want your boyfriend to be desirable, right? Because that's a nice feeling. Even like other women find him so attractive.
But like, yeah, it's...

Speaker 5 But not too much.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 2 I do, which I think is like a very good sign that I'm like, no, like, this is, I love him so much. I care so much about us and him that I

Speaker 1 don't want anything getting in the middle of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I just, yeah, it's like a good, I think it comes from a place of passion. I mean, it's not like

Speaker 2 a psycho place. It's just more of a like, oh, this is a feeling I like didn't know that I was going to feel so strongly.
And then I just

Speaker 1 every girl to the judge.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 A bloody knife.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I just, I do think you get older and it changes.

Speaker 1 I get it. Like, I am not at all.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think I was more of a jealous type in my 20s, but I just was never, I just never really, like, okay, if you don't like me or if you're winning for someone else, then I guess that's not.

Speaker 1 I think it's laziness is actually what it is is being too lazy to get involved in my own emotions about any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 But I do see what you're saying is that, you know, I love my wife passionately and she's my one and I don't ever, I don't want to do this again, right? I want

Speaker 1 we have, I like what we have and this is the best i the best relationship i've ever been in and i all those things yeah and i do see what you're saying is i think it's maybe not jealousy it's protection it's protection protection i want to protect me my feelings her our relationship and the family that or the life that we've built.

Speaker 1 I want to protect that. So it's more like a

Speaker 1 lot of people who are going to be able to

Speaker 5 be the most secure couple in the world. But if you're constantly away from each other and in different cities, you can't help but kind of be like, Well, what's maybe happening at, you know,

Speaker 5 drinks one night or something, you know?

Speaker 1 Yes, I think that that has that can play into it too.

Speaker 1 And by the way, you can have all the trust in the world. That doesn't mean you're not human.
That doesn't mean that, like, the mind abhors a vacuum. So sometimes you can trust me.

Speaker 1 And who is this bitch who's literally telling you to your face,

Speaker 1 your boyfriend, is hot?

Speaker 2 You know, here's the thing. I

Speaker 1 learned. I don't apologize for her.
No, no, no. I'm I'm not an apologized for her.

Speaker 2 I learned more about her afterward because, you know, when I had posted that clip and it has like 15 million views, it's like, it's like, wow.

Speaker 2 And she had commented being like, I, you know, I truly meant no disrespect.

Speaker 2 What she had meant by all of that was that she went to one of Chad's shows and her mom had passed away shortly before she went to one of his shows.

Speaker 2 And in like the merch line afterwards, she had told told Chad like how much that show meant to her.

Speaker 2 Like, it might have, I think, maybe been the first time she had laughed since something like that had happened. And that he was just like, Oh, I'm so sorry that you've gone through that.

Speaker 2 Thank you for telling me that.

Speaker 2 And so that was like,

Speaker 2 I think a lot of where her love for him was coming from.

Speaker 2 But she, you know, I think had probably had some drinks at that, at my show, and just was like getting pretty excited.

Speaker 2 But again, it's like it's like that old Patrice O'Neill joke where it's like, you don't want to be with somebody who you like could send down the back alley in the middle of the night and like not worry about anybody like hitting on it or whatever.

Speaker 1 It's like, there is part of you that wants you to be a partner. Yes, of course, of course.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 and he touched her in a moment of vulnerability, and I'm sure that she felt like that was.

Speaker 1 I'm putting words in her mouth, of course, but I suppose that what she felt was some sort of connection because in that moment, she felt like he reached out to her and said something nice.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when you're, whenever there's a famous comic standing up there and then you, and you admire their work and then they connect with you, it's like, oh, okay, I'm sure she meant it.

Speaker 1 Like, I love your husband in a way that he was very nice and I made a special connection with him.

Speaker 2 There was zero ill intent. I mean, her husband's sitting right there.
Also, like, I don't know what it's like to be an audience member and have a comic talking to.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like a lot of adrenaline, I'm sure, and it's not planned, and you're just kind of like

Speaker 1 going with.

Speaker 2 I'm sure if I was in the reverse situation, I might at some time in my life say something where I like put my foot in my mouth. We just, it's hard to be on the other end of it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we were talking to Ari Shafir about this, about like the people in the first couple of rows, you know, and how they go to a uh like a comedy show you know wherever it may be they go to a comedy show and there's this sense that they understand depending on who the talk who the comic is that they could be a target of the comedy right and like some people may enjoy that other people may not but how they react in the moment who knows right it's like a big x factor right yeah

Speaker 2 but yeah i think also part of um like feeling more protective of him and us is like i moved to minnesota in the month of january to work with this man man. Like, yes, like we have life insurance.

Speaker 2 We bought a house together. It's taxes?

Speaker 1 It's a tax.

Speaker 2 I gotta stay taxes or something. It's like, there is, it's just a different level of

Speaker 2 seriousness, I guess. And like,

Speaker 2 yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Is there any interest? Has there been any discussion? This is a question, you know, that I probably shouldn't ask, but I'm going to ask, has there any been any conversation around getting married?

Speaker 1 Or is this just like, we're here, we're doing it. We don't need to put it on paper.

Speaker 2 no we we do want to get married we've just done everything so backwards that it's i mean which we've like loved and it's been fun and and great uh but you know we like bought a house then we got life insurance and uh and it's like it's kind of fun to know that this is it forever and know that we do want to get married but like

Speaker 2 there's still some fun things left that haven't happened yet, right? Like, I am excited for us to get engaged and get married because we have already checked off some of the big things.

Speaker 2 And once you do them, it's kind of like you checked it off. Like, buying a house together is such a fun,

Speaker 2 cool thing to do. And,

Speaker 2 you know, once you do it, you're like, okay, we did it. And I think having those things to look forward to is kind of like a fun, healthy thing.

Speaker 1 Sorry. And I was just wondering if I needed to call Chad and have a conversation.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 The benefits of locking it up. Chad.

Speaker 2 We're locked up. But yeah,

Speaker 2 it is exciting to see

Speaker 2 where did you film the special i shot it in madison wisconsin at comedy on state

Speaker 1 yes and so did you do this over i mean i don't want to give away all the magic but was this a couple of nights that you then you strung together or did you just do one night and then you and then you had callbacks or or

Speaker 2 yeah we did one night and two shows in that night and two shows in that night

Speaker 1 answer me this i noticed that that that it's on two platforms. Is that right? Yes.

Speaker 2 It's on Hulu and YouTube.

Speaker 1 Okay, so why is that? I'm very curious as to why this is. I don't recall at least seeing this.
This 800-pound gorilla, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We've had a lot of comics on who've had specials on 800 pound gorilla. Good for them supporting good comedy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 why is it double platformed?

Speaker 2 So I have also never done this before, and I think it's something pretty new that Hulu's trying.

Speaker 2 There are pros and cons to it, right? If you have something come out on one platform, every audience member that's watching it is going to that one place, right?

Speaker 2 Like the views aren't getting divided up. So that is one downside: is like, you know, the Hulu views aren't public.

Speaker 2 Like, even I don't know what the views are yet now that it's been out for a couple weeks.

Speaker 2 But the upside is if you are putting a special out exclusively on YouTube, there are a lot of like bigger press outlets that wouldn't have you on to promote it if it's just a YouTube special.

Speaker 2 But as soon as a streamer is involved, then people go, Oh, okay, like well, now we'll have you on. Yeah, and case in point the commercial break, right? The commercial break.

Speaker 2 You guys were like, Look, we like you.

Speaker 2 We can't have you do this YouTube thing again. We got to spice it up.

Speaker 1 If we had every Yahoo with a YouTube special on, we'd do nothing but Yahoos.

Speaker 2 You got to bring that Hulu in here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what we told Kyle Kinane. I said, Hey, dude, I'll have you on when you get on a streamer.
Okay, But not yeah, we can't have this. Not yet.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So like it's been a little bit of a learning process of seeing, okay, like this is something I like about doing it like this. This is something I kind of don't like.

Speaker 2 But I can't say yet what I'm about to do, but I'm about to do a big press thing in like a week and a half that wouldn't.

Speaker 2 It wouldn't have been possible if we didn't also have it come out on Hulu the same day. So

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I actually think it's a good idea, right?

Speaker 1 We talk about this a lot is like being multi-platformed is so important.

Speaker 1 And I think the more opportunity you have to get in front of eyeballs or ears or whatever it is to share your work, your creativity,

Speaker 1 you're taking a lot of time, energy, and effort. This is what you do.
It comes from, I'm sure, a lot of like a lot of internal strife and struggle and hard work.

Speaker 1 And you want as many people to see that as possible. Not everybody has access to Hulu.
Not everybody can either afford it or has it or whatever the reason may be. And YouTube is such a jergonaut.

Speaker 1 I mean, they are,

Speaker 1 you know, there's more watching going on on YouTube right now for the first time ever than any, all the television platforms put together. So YouTube is a player in the market.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense that you would put this out. Both, has there been like generally positive feedback about the special?

Speaker 1 I saw some, I was reading through the comments on YouTube, which is where I watched it. I was reading some of the comments.
And unbelievably, like most of them are so very good toward the special.

Speaker 1 And that's not like YouTube is successful in the comments section. I don't usually read it.
But I saw a bunch of people who were just raving about your special.

Speaker 2 Oh, thank you. Yeah.
I feel very, very fortunate that that's been the case. It's just really nice to read such nice things.
And

Speaker 2 yeah, that's, again, put that in the column of upsides for putting it on YouTube is that you do get to see positive feedback and you do get to interact with the people people who are watching it. And

Speaker 2 that means a lot to me. So, yeah, it's like, it's ultimately, you just want as many eyeballs on it as possible.
Cause I think most of us comics, the thing we want

Speaker 2 at the end of the day is for people to come see us on tour.

Speaker 2 So it's like, whether you watched it on Hulu or YouTube, if you watched it and you were like, oh, I want to see her live, then we're like, great, that's. That's a win.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I would imagine, I don't know, but I would imagine, and after having talked to a lot of comics, that the money that you make, the living that you make, is by and large done through live shows.

Speaker 1 It's not like Hulu's paying you a million dollars for the rights to stream your special. Right.

Speaker 1 You may get some money out of them.

Speaker 1 And I would imagine that if I were in a comic and I was up and coming and, you know, or trying to make a break, I would might even say, you can have this special. Just put it on your platform.

Speaker 1 Like, just put it on your platform.

Speaker 1 Right. And then if it does well, then we can talk about it in a year or whatever.
Maybe we can do another special.

Speaker 1 So I can see how this is really a driver to get more people to show up where you really make your bread and butter, which is at the live shows.

Speaker 2 Right. Exactly.
Yeah. So it's, it's, like I said, bed on learning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It all works together.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. Because again, it's not like, it's not like a Netflix deal where you're getting this like big paycheck up front or even like a Hulu exclusive deal where you're getting a big paycheck.

Speaker 2 It is like a, you know, a situation where they are licensing it. They're putting it up there, but you're also putting it on YouTube.

Speaker 2 So you, you're mostly in this particular situation, like, okay, how do we get it seen by a lot of people and then drive ticket sales? But,

Speaker 2 you know, my last special, The Hustler on YouTube, it only went on YouTube to start and it has almost 4 million views now. It's like crazy what YouTube.

Speaker 2 And I had like no expectation. You know, it was my first special.
I was like, well, we're putting on YouTube. Let's see.

Speaker 2 That changed my life. It completely changed my touring.
It's just nuts what the power of YouTube is now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If you have 4 million views, you're not only putting some butts in seats, but then at the same time, you have some leverage to have those conversations with, you know, Disney executives.

Speaker 1 If I'm you and I'm trying to get on

Speaker 1 to be your manager.

Speaker 1 I'm so fascinated by the inner workpiece of all this.

Speaker 1 If I'm you or or if I'm managing you, here's what I'm saying: Kelsey will do the special for free, but I need an all-expenses paid vacation to Disney World

Speaker 1 once a year, which is the equivalent of about a million dollars worth of

Speaker 1 revenue.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, corn dogs are $42, you know, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Those fucking pretzel heads, those Mickey pretzel heads, they're like $15 a piece. I believe it.

Speaker 1 It's insane. It's hard.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 So you're out on tour currently.

Speaker 1 Where are you looking? Tell me about the places that you... I mean, I know you're not going to tell me that you don't like any places to go.
I get the politics of that. But tell me about that.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll tell you some places. Oh, tell me some places.

Speaker 1 I would maybe tell you a couple.

Speaker 2 Do you really want to know places I don't like to go?

Speaker 1 Tell me about it. Yes, of course I do.
That's the more interesting conversation, but I'm trying to get my way in the back door here a little bit. Well,

Speaker 2 I will say one place that I like, I truly was like, you know what? I don't think I could go back here.

Speaker 2 This was just like a very tough experience, but I think understandably that I wouldn't want to go back. I did the Syracuse Funny Bone.

Speaker 2 Gosh, this is like maybe two, three years ago. And

Speaker 2 it's in a mall.

Speaker 2 And right before the show was about to start, there was a shooting in the mall.

Speaker 2 And the manager came back to the green room and was like, okay, there's an active shooter in the mall.

Speaker 1 And when you hear the words active shooter,

Speaker 2 you picture trench coat like

Speaker 2 that. Like there's no in particular target that, like, it's just, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And so I, I start crying and I'm terrified. I'm like, this is, these are the things you read the news in, and you go, I just hope I'm never in that situation.

Speaker 2 And there's somebody telling you, like, you're in this situation right now. Like, there's a, you're in the mall, there's an active shooter.
Oh, my God. And so

Speaker 2 the mall got evacuated. Show got canceled.
We found out later that it was

Speaker 2 like a gang shooting. It was targeted.

Speaker 2 It wasn't like active shooter was a little bit of a it was a little dramatic but it's a folk they don't know yeah yeah and i was just like the place where the shooting happened i was just walking in that area of the mall like oh my god 30 minutes before that

Speaker 2 and so it's this is not like a dig to the people of syracuse because i i am sure like the crowds there would be fun.

Speaker 2 I think I had done like maybe two shows the night before that and I think I had a fine time. But I looked online after the shooting and it turns out like there are shootings in that mall

Speaker 2 like every month and I just was like yeah you know yeah

Speaker 1 exactly I just I can go to Twin Falls sure yeah yeah it's like Buffalo maybe I go back into a different venue but that was one where I was like that I just yeah it's not too much to worry about anyway I don't want to go to a place where there's like shooting shit you have PTSD yeah and and I think it doesn't matter whether or not it was a targeted shooting it to me it wouldn't matter or not.

Speaker 1 I don't care. A gun where someone's, if someone's pointing a gun in an open mall, I'm like, fuck all that.
I just don't want anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 And we do hear about this so often that it's a trigger word, I think, for everybody. You know what it's a real trigger word for is for me as a parent.
That every time I hear the word school

Speaker 1 and gun, and it happens. frequently, right? Every time I hear that, I just go in sheer panic.
Not because I think it's happening at the school my kids go to, but because it's happened so often.

Speaker 1 Someday it could be the school

Speaker 1 that my kid goes to. It's going to happen to everywhere.
Okay, so

Speaker 2 horrifying.

Speaker 1 During the winter,

Speaker 1 I'm sure that you must enjoy getting down to warmer places when you're traveling. Do you like a range or have your manager arrange your tour schedule to get you to a few warm places?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 2 I could probably be a little more strategic about that with my agents.

Speaker 1 Let's get that manager.

Speaker 2 This was my first winter in Minnesota that it really felt like what people describe as a true Minnesota winter. Like those temperatures,

Speaker 2 I just didn't believe that that was happening like in the U.S.

Speaker 1 Was it maybe like minus 20 or something? It was 30 or something one time.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I listened to this local station up there, the NPR station up there, the current. It's a great radio station if you're ever looking at it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Not that anybody's listening to the radio anymore.

Speaker 5 You can also listen. We listen online.
Yeah. But I hear the temperature up there frequently.

Speaker 5 It was like, yeah, negative 30 one day.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Chad is from Fergus Falls, which is this town.

Speaker 1 I love the name Fergus Falls. Fergus Falls.

Speaker 2 So cute. It is very cute.

Speaker 1 Oh, China. It's from Fergus Falls.

Speaker 2 It sounds like something from like Shit's Creek, right?

Speaker 1 It's very wholesome sounding.

Speaker 2 So it's in northern Minnesota. And I guess a while ago there was a polar vortex there where it was like minus 50.
It's like something crazy.

Speaker 2 And he said that if you touch the the doorknob of your house but from the inside that it would burn your hand oh my god from the inside oh my god that's how cold metal i mean oh yeah no thanks no thanks

Speaker 1 i i just have an allergy to the cold weather i really do i mean we live in atlanta and it got cold down here too but okay um you know for me it's i i grew up in chicago and i think i've done my penance i've done my time i would rather stay down where it's just a little bit warmer.

Speaker 1 If I can avoid that, like, I don't, I'm not interested in going on a ski vacation. People call me, and you know, people like texting, hey, we're going to go skiing wherever.
And I'm like, fuck that.

Speaker 1 You're going to go to be cold? You're going to go somewhere to be cold? No, thank you. I'll take my chances.
You have to grow up with it, to be used to it. Well, she moved there.
I mean, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm from Washington.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm from Spokane.

Speaker 1 It's not that warm.

Speaker 2 It's, yeah, Spokane is very seasonal. It gets cold in the winter.
We have snow, but not

Speaker 2 feels like minus 26. No, it's snow.

Speaker 1 I'm in the Apple's in its own thing.

Speaker 2 Something else.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So you look at the lakes that are up there.

Speaker 1 It's the land of lakes. It's the land of lakes.
I see it on my cream box every day when I make coffee and eat cereal. It's the land of lakes.

Speaker 1 That's us.

Speaker 1 I think that's where my cream comes from. I'd like to think so, anyway.

Speaker 1 When I'm looking at my cream box, I just imagine a rolling field with snow. It's a beautiful place.
Cows,

Speaker 1 butters, beautiful, beautifully appointed, turning butter.

Speaker 1 Here's a funny, like a little

Speaker 1 funny side note.

Speaker 1 I watched a couple of days ago, like a national geographic special on Antowik, the coldest place on earth where people inhabit, which is up in, like, I don't know, somewhere in Russia or one of the former USSR states.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And it regularly is like minus 75 degrees Fahrenheit there for like seven months a year.

Speaker 1 And the kids can go to school if it's minus 53 or warmer, but they cannot go to school if it's minus 53 or colder. They eat for breakfast strawberries and churned whipped cream.

Speaker 1 That's like their meal because it's got so much fat in it. That's what they need to eat.

Speaker 1 They need their constant, and that's the only thing they can't eat because it's the only thing that can stay fresh is the actual dairy that comes from the cows that I guess are able to survive in minus 75-degree fucking weather.

Speaker 1 That sounds insane to me. Like the way these people live is like they might as well be on a spaceship somewhere near Uranus.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 5 But again, it has to be just generational that you grow up.

Speaker 1 That's the whole thing. Well, yeah, they have to

Speaker 1 have the body tolerance for that.

Speaker 1 No one's visiting this town.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you get out your... I'm cold now.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 So you get out your special. And now, is it, do you find it, I'm sure in some ways it feels good creatively to go out there back on the road?

Speaker 1 And are you knocking around the new material, planning the next special, essentially? essentially?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the timing of this actually worked out really well where once Mark Your Territory came out a couple weeks ago, it had been 10 months since I shot it.

Speaker 2 And so it gave me that amount of time to get a new hour.

Speaker 2 put together and so the hour I'm touring with right now is all completely different from the special which is nice to be able to tell people when they comment like oh like I want to watch the special but I have tickets to see you can I watch this special and I'm like yes you can watch it and you can see me.

Speaker 2 It's totally different. So that's, it's hard sometimes when you shoot a special and you're like, oh my God, I want it out right now.
But then you,

Speaker 2 you probably would not have a new hour ready. So it's kind of like finding that perfect sweet spot.

Speaker 1 Strategy. Yeah, I think, I don't know who we were, we were talking to a company, Sam Murrill, and he was explaining that like, you know, Led Zeppelin can have one hit and go tour on that hit for like

Speaker 1 five years. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 But he was explaining that, you know, once the hour's out, I can no longer do that material. He's like, I can can do some of the best, you know, I can do some of the greatest hits.

Speaker 1 I can, you know, repurpose a joke here and there, the thing that people like to hear, you know, their favorite, the favorite joke, quote unquote.

Speaker 1 He said, but by and large, I got to come up with a new hour because no one's going to pay to see me, no one's going to pay 50 bucks to see me if they know they can watch it on Netflix.

Speaker 1 It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 1 Exactly. That must be tough.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's really, yeah.
And I don't think it was always like this.

Speaker 2 I feel like this has been a really big shift in maybe the last 10 years where it became this expectation that you're putting out a new hour every like one to two years.

Speaker 2 And it's like, you're right.

Speaker 5 I feel like that's been a change from like the days of Eddie Murphy or different other

Speaker 5 comedians from back in the 70s, 80s could do the same thing a lot.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 Like some of our favorite artists, like Rihanna's been talking about putting an album out now, and I think it's been like eight years, maybe longer, like a decade.

Speaker 1 So right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like Justin Timberlake put his album out last year and that had been, I think, almost almost a decade or something. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 Like that's what is expected that they get this time to like be inspired and live life and comics are just like

Speaker 2 desperately trying to like scrounge up material where we can find it. And

Speaker 2 but you know, it's kind of, I think it's like a muscle that if you have that. pressure and expectation in your mind, you do kind of somehow come up with it.

Speaker 2 And I don't know.

Speaker 1 We're all just doing our best, I i guess yeah that's right yeah i i don't know i you know it i think that would be incredibly difficult to do you look at chris rock i mean he would bring the pain was like it killed us all right oh my god chris rocks you know stalking the stage like that over and over he didn't come out with a new special until like a decade later it was like 10 years in between those specials and

Speaker 1 he was afforded that opportunity. And what did he do in between? I don't know, a few movies and a television appearance here and there.
And he just really paid off of that for a long time.

Speaker 1 But now I think the age of the internet, because we're all so used to seeing new content every single minute. Social media.
Yeah, that we can't just settle down and enjoy.

Speaker 1 You can't just enjoy what you want, listener. You know, you have to demand that Kelsey come out with a new hour every 15 minutes.
It's not a reasonable expectation.

Speaker 1 Watch her special and then go buy her tickets.

Speaker 1 See her do stairway to heaven.

Speaker 2 Yes, my stairway to heaven, my black dog.

Speaker 2 You're so right that it's social media too, where our specials, we end up like kind of cannibalizing them and turning them into clips immediately because we're trying to get people to watch the special and we're trying to get into the algorithm and push tour tickets.

Speaker 2 And so you can take like an hour special and essentially turn it into 60 clips.

Speaker 2 You know, that would be kind of a lot.

Speaker 2 But once you run out, You're like,

Speaker 2 I need to shoot another special because now I don't have new clips. It's like that's also a really big part of it is unless you're relying heavily on like crowd work clips or

Speaker 2 podcast clips, having new special clips really like infuses your channels with like new lifeblood. Like, oh my God, yes.
I am something new to post.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a sickness.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's horrible.

Speaker 1 Well, if you ever need any mediocre comedy to distribute on your social media platform, feel free to knock us up. We do like 60 of these shows a week.
So

Speaker 1 we're turning, like speaking of turning butter this commercial break never stops that's for sure amazing though kelsey cook brand new special out on youtube and on hulu yeah

Speaker 1 uh we would highly encourage all of our listeners to go listen to the special and then regardless of whether or not kelsey's going to do old material or new material we encourage and she'll do new material

Speaker 1 it's all funny you laugh you laugh harder in person because because that's the way that it is and listen to your podcast with Chad.

Speaker 2 Yes, pretend problems.

Speaker 1 Pretend problems. Chad and I.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead.

Speaker 2 You please. Oh, I was just saying, Chad and I have a few tour dates together in April

Speaker 2 that we're doing for the first time. So we'll be in Long Island, Montclair, New Jersey, and Philly doing a couple theaters and a casino.
So, yeah, please come see us there.

Speaker 2 We're really excited for that.

Speaker 1 Okay, now tell Chad to settle down. There's room for both of you at the top.

Speaker 1 You guys could be, this could be Desi and Arnaz, right? You know what I'm saying? You guys could be

Speaker 1 guys could be the next power couple out there. Speaking of Justin Timberlake.

Speaker 1 You could be Brit Lake.

Speaker 1 Brit Lake. I saw you were at the Justin Timberlake concert.
Was that you? Yes, two hands.

Speaker 1 Look at you. She's a JT fan.

Speaker 5 I mean, aren't we all? I am.

Speaker 1 Huge JT fan.

Speaker 2 Lifelong, Instagram, all of it.

Speaker 1 I do bop my head to his music when the kids play it or Astrid plays it. I do.
I can't say I'm the biggest fan, but there are a couple songs.

Speaker 1 Is it In the Mirror, Looking in the Mirror?

Speaker 2 Oh, Mirror, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He played that on Saturday Night Live once with like a full horn section.
He was really funny on Saturday Night Live. Yes, he was really funny on Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1 And then he ran that stop sign in Montauk.

Speaker 1 And then the Hamptons. I know.

Speaker 1 And then we all turned on Justin. Uber.

Speaker 5 Every famous person that has money should use Justin.

Speaker 1 No. Kelsey, we're going to give you one piece of advice because we've done so many of these stories, it's not even funny.
Uber, okay? Yeah. Thank you.
Uber. Your mitch.

Speaker 5 Mitches get wasted.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Tell that manager to get you a drug.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You and Chad drink all the tequila you want.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 We're boring now. We've both been sober for like almost a year, but

Speaker 1 we talked about this last time you were here. Yeah, congratulations.
I mean, you feel great. Oh, we do.
I mean,

Speaker 2 just you get, you get older and you're like, it's too much. I can't.
I'm already just tired from like not sleeping right anyway. It's hard to add hangovers to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, passing out and sleeping are two totally different things. You only know that once you get sober or once you kind of clean up for a while.
I haven't had, I don't drink.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't drink, like, I'm not a teetotaler. I would never, ever, not have another drink.

Speaker 1 That's not, I don't go to AA meetings, but I haven't, because I have children, I haven't had drinks in a long time. I haven't gotten drunk in a long time.

Speaker 1 And I will tell you what, there is something about it that has been quite life-altering in so many different ways that.

Speaker 1 are easy to see now in hindsight but would have been difficult to understand when i was drunk Yes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I feel the exact same way. It's hard to actually be like, okay, am I really going to stop doing this completely? But it does feel so good that it's, I don't know.

Speaker 2 It hasn't actually been as hard as that.

Speaker 1 You don't even want to, like, it feels so good. You don't want to drink.
Like, you're like, oh, once you get out of the habit. Yeah, do you really want to wake up hungover tomorrow? No, probably not.

Speaker 1 Right. Because that kid's going to be bouncing on my face at five in the morning and I don't want to deal with it.

Speaker 1 Thank you, please tell Chad we said hello. You are welcome

Speaker 1 here. Thank you guys.
Anytime, Kelsey, and we appreciate you coming back. You were one of the few who agreed to it.

Speaker 2 You guys are so it's always really nice to talk to you, truly. Thank you for having me back on.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you, Kelsey. We hope to see you again soon.
Congratulations on all this success

Speaker 1 from Chrissy and I and everybody here at TCB. It couldn't have happened to a better person.
And onward and upwards. This isn't the last stop.
We're giving a eulogy, but it isn't the last stop.

Speaker 1 You're going to keep on going. Oh, thanks, guys.
Thank you again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, have a good one, okay?

Speaker 6 Hey, it's Rachel, your new voice of God here on TCB. And just like you, I'm wondering just how much longer this podcast can continue.

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Speaker 3 Ah, good old Kelsey Cook. I do enjoy me some Kelsey Cook.
I do too. Yeah, she's really, really sweet.
She's solid.

Speaker 1 She's solid.

Speaker 3 But don't let that fool you. Go to watch her special with your kids' earmuffs on because she's good.
I think one of my favorite jokes was using a bidet in the middle of Minneapolis in the wind.

Speaker 3 It's like getting local anesthesia on your asshole.

Speaker 5 I think one of my favorite ones was about her trying to connect with the daughter, Chad's daughter. Oh, yeah, and yeah, the whole Instagram thing.

Speaker 3 The daughter said, I'm unfollowing your girlfriend, by the way. Well, she'll probably unfollow us too after this after this appearance, but we do like Kelsey Cook.

Speaker 3 And KelseyCook.com is where you get more information about her tour, about her specials, and about her podcast that she shares with that boyfriend.

Speaker 3 I think maybe in the future, according to her, might be a husband, but we don't care.

Speaker 3 We like Kelsey either way.

Speaker 5 And Chad.

Speaker 3 And Chad. But Chad hasn't come on the show yet.
No. What's up with Chad? Why didn't Chad? Didn't we invite him on last time she was here?

Speaker 3 We said, hey, tell Chad if he wants to come on, he can come on.

Speaker 5 I don't know, but we have done the whole wife-husband thing.

Speaker 3 With Hannah Dez.

Speaker 3 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Dez Bishop, he's also got his own positive. He was of repeat, too.

Speaker 3 He was of repeat. Reggie Watts was a repeat.
I think there are a couple more repeats. Some of your favorite guests coming back up because they can't get enough of the commercial break.

Speaker 3 Listen, they all want to be like Kelsey Cook. They all want their careers to go skyrocketing to the moon.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 3 Des Bishop, Reggie Watts, Kelsey Cook, who will be next? Stay tuned. Stay tuned, you.

Speaker 3 More surprises to come. Anyway, KelseyCook.com.
We appreciate her coming in. We really do.
And she's welcome anytime. She's one of those.
And Des and Reggie are one of those, too.

Speaker 3 There's lots of them, but there's a couple of them where you're like, yeah, okay. Yeah, it's too much.
It's too easy to talk to to you. I know, we could do it for hours.

Speaker 3 And then there's a couple that, you know,

Speaker 3 it's probably a mutual agreement that, yeah, maybe not. Maybe commercial break's not the place for me.

Speaker 3 And I would say, maybe not. You're right.
I never thought I'd get to the day where I'd say, well, no, thanks, celebrity. Yeah.
Don't come on the show.

Speaker 3 I'd like to have Heather again, but she might be too big. I don't think Heather McMahon is coming back on the show.

Speaker 5 We got her.

Speaker 3 See, another one. Another one.
She came on our podcast. Heather McMahon.
Hannah Burns. Explosion.
Kelsey. Career explosion.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It seems like we have the Midas touch for everybody but ourselves.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 The Midas touch for everybody but ourselves. And then I saw Felipe Esparsa

Speaker 3 on Joe Rogan. Now, listen, whatever you think about Joe Rogan, he is sometimes the king of the hill.
And to be on his podcast is a big deal. And I just saw him on Joe's podcast.
Or I saw him.

Speaker 3 I saw that too.

Speaker 5 A clip of him. I saw that he was on there too.
And I heard that Rosebud Baker was on the Today Show.

Speaker 3 Rosebud Baker on the Today Show, on the Tonight Show. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Wow. Maybe there is something to this commercial break.
Celebrities pay attention. And you're welcome on.
You have to go through our agent, though. Talk to our people.
All right, TCB Podcast.

Speaker 3 Let's call it.

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Chrissy, that's all I can do for today. I think so.
But I'll tell you that I love you. I love you.
Best to you.

Speaker 3 Best to you. And best to you out there in the podcast universe, including Kelsey.
Until next time, Chrissy and I will say we do say and we must say. Goodbye.

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