Trump Knew He Was In The Epstein Files, Launches Attack on Obama | Samara Cyn

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Josh Johnson covers the breaking story that the DOJ informed Trump he was on the Epstein list, newly unearthed photos of Trump's friendship with Epstein, and the president's wild pledge to lower drug prices by 1000%. Plus, Michael Kosta explains why Trump’s Epstein drama is all Obama’s fault.

Samara Cyn, a recording artist making her late-night television debut, joins Josh to discuss her new EP, “backroads.” They talk about her raw and real lyrics, why her new EP is more lighthearted than her last release, how her music touches on the “really weird” state of a world going back on immigrant, LGBTQ+, and women’s rights, and her song “hardheaded,” which tackles privilege head-on.
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Speaker 6 Welcome to the Baton Show.

Speaker 7 I'm Josh Schoens and we have got so much to talk about tonight. We got new photos from Trump and Epstein's Besties Collage.

Speaker 9 Trump is gonna pay you to take drugs.

Speaker 11 And he says, yes, we can.

Speaker 13 Blame Obama.

Speaker 14 So let's get to the headlines.

Speaker 7 Let's kick things off with drug prices.

Speaker 8 They're too damn high.

Speaker 16 They're so expensive that rappers are bawling out on a full prescription, okay?

Speaker 18 Singles are dropping like, I got to drop top bins and I'm going to play Alexa Pro.

Speaker 13 Now, President Trump made big promises about lowering drug prices once he got into office, but all the haters said he was never actually going to get it done.

Speaker 12 Well, guess what, haters?

Speaker 16 His promises just got even bigger.

Speaker 19 We're going to get the drug prices down, not 30 or 40 percent, which would be great, not 50 or 60, no. We're going to get them down

Speaker 19 1,000%,

Speaker 19 600%,

Speaker 19 500%,

Speaker 19 1,500%.

Speaker 19 Numbers that are not even thought to be achievable.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I also thought it would not be achievable to lower drug prices 1,000%

Speaker 7 because that's not how percentages work.

Speaker 17 Just so you understand, lowering drug prices 100% means it's free.

Speaker 14 Lowering it past that means they're going to give you money.

Speaker 22 Like, next year's Forbes billionaires list is just going to be a bunch of dudes with leukemia.

Speaker 20 On the bright side, on the bright side, we're actually going to be bankrupting insurance companies instead of the other way around.

Speaker 6 You know, if Trump,

Speaker 23 If Trump had enacted this sooner, that CEO would have shot Luigi.

Speaker 6 But look.

Speaker 9 But look, Trump actually does have a plan here.

Speaker 16 It's not to put a cap on the drug prices.

Speaker 12 That'd be too easy and simple.

Speaker 19 We're working very hard right now to get

Speaker 19 the other countries to lift up their prices a little bit and to get the drug companies to put it to them. And if if they don't, the drug companies will have a lot of problems.

Speaker 19 And they are mostly agreed to it.

Speaker 19 And if the countries don't, then as an example, if it's Europe, I'll say that's okay. You're no longer allowed to sell cars in America.

Speaker 19 You're no longer allowed to have Mercedes-BMW, Volkswagen, or any of the other many cars. And they will say, oh, I love the idea of lower drug prices for America.

Speaker 8 So the plan, just so I have it right, is to lower drug prices here by forcing Europe to raise drug prices over there or they can't sell us their cars, reducing our choices as consumers and making cars in general more expensive for everybody.

Speaker 16 And I know it's very confusing, but I've seen this before.

Speaker 11 This is

Speaker 6 crackhead logic, all right?

Speaker 8 A crackhead can never go from A to B, all right?

Speaker 22 When I was a kid, I'd see a dude who needed $15, but instead of asking for money, he would try to sell you a tire,

Speaker 5 which

Speaker 28 of course he didn't have, but he did have a bike chain. And if you would buy that bike chain from him for $12, he would put that towards the tire, and then one day, eventually, buy crack.

Speaker 28 And my point is, that's a better drug plan than what Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 21 Look, but still, Donald Trump is promising to lower drug prices for America.

Speaker 24 That's the news for the day.

Speaker 14 And I'm sure no one is going to talk about anything else.

Speaker 30 Brand new bombshell reporting from the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 27 The Wall Street Journal reporting that U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi told President Trump back in May that his name appears multiple times in the Epstein files.

Speaker 29 Your best friends.

Speaker 10 Your best friends with a pedophile for 10 years, one time, and the world never forgets it.

Speaker 8 But yeah, this whole time, Trump already knew he was in the Epstein files, which is a good reminder that if someone's acting guilty, they're probably guilty.

Speaker 12 No one's ever going to be like, don't look at my browser history.

Speaker 7 you'll see all the charities I volunteer for.

Speaker 14 But the good news for Trump is this is America. We don't read.

Speaker 13 As long as there's no video coming out, he should be A-OK.

Speaker 30 CNN exclusive. Newly uncovered photos and video offers a new look at President Trump's past ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
Here you see the two, the opening of the Harley-Davidson Cafe.

Speaker 30 Months later, some new photos reveal Epstein walking into the Plaza Hotel to attend Donald Trump's wedding to Marla Maples.

Speaker 30 There's also what was found in this review of archival footage from a 1999 Victoria's Secret fashion show, which reveals, as you see, the two men chatting, laughing with one another on the sidelines of that event.

Speaker 31 It's getting to the point where it's harder and harder to find a photo of Donald Trump without Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 17 As Donald Trump, your only hope is to be like, hey, I take pictures with lots of people, all right?

Speaker 15 I'm in pictures with OJ, Diddy.

Speaker 26 I'm in pictures with Harvey Weinstein.

Speaker 23 That's not helping.

Speaker 10 I'm going to stop.

Speaker 9 And they're not just in the video.

Speaker 8 Look at the chemistry they have.

Speaker 31 And this is genuinely unfortunate and unfair to Trump.

Speaker 8 But the way the camera highlighted the two of them makes it look like a giant heart on a kiss cam.

Speaker 16 What makes me feel terrible is I don't have a friend that I'm as close with as Trump was to Epstein.

Speaker 10 You know, they're making drawings for each other, laughing, showing up to weddings, going to shows together.

Speaker 12 The only way my friends hang out with me that much is if we're both holding Xbox controllers.

Speaker 8 The point is, CNN found all this new footage and Trump didn't really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 You actually called President Trump directly to ask him about this story?

Speaker 33 Yeah, we weren't on the phone very long. It only lasted about 30 seconds, but when I got him on the phone, I asked him about the wedding photos.

Speaker 33 He kind of paused and then said, you've got to be kidding me. He then called CNN and me fake news a few times and then he hung up the phone.

Speaker 6 Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. You can just call Donald Trump

Speaker 10 and he'll just pick up the phone himself.

Speaker 22 A president shouldn't be that available, you know.

Speaker 8 This is like pushing the call button for the flight attendant, and then the pilot comes out.

Speaker 6 Like,

Speaker 6 it's like,

Speaker 29 aren't you supposed to be busy? Like,

Speaker 6 if you're here, then who's in the cockpit?

Speaker 13 I think this just shows how lonely Trump is.

Speaker 12 He's answering the phone because he just wants someone to talk to.

Speaker 21 It's kind of sad.

Speaker 26 Because remember, his best friend died in prison back in 2019.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 13 once again, Donald Trump can't shake the Jeffrey Epstein news.

Speaker 23 He's going to lower drug prices 2 billion percent and the media still won't let it go.

Speaker 14 But old buddy Donnie's got another card to play.

Speaker 30 President Trump again tried to divert attention from the Epstein files, this time by accusing former President Barack Obama of treason.

Speaker 19 Obama cheated cheated on the election, and we have it cold, hard, blue, and it's getting even more so.

Speaker 10 I'm sorry, you can't just say cold, hard, and blue.

Speaker 9 Like that's a normal phrase about an investigation.

Speaker 17 There's been 400 seasons of law and order, and no detective has ever said, we got you cold, hard, and blue.

Speaker 6 Dun dun.

Speaker 14 But yeah, Trump is now going after Obama again, and this time he's got Call C.

Speaker 13 Gabbard saying she's got documents that prove Obama tampered with the 2016 election, which is treason.

Speaker 24 But if you see what Obama was doing over the weekend, he doesn't seem too stressed.

Speaker 5 In my opinion, and this is controversial in my family,

Speaker 5 You should not eat ketchup after the age of eight.

Speaker 22 Does this man seem worried?

Speaker 15 You know, he's doing a podcast about ketchup.

Speaker 10 How is it that Barack Obama, the man Trump hates the most, is the most unbothered during two Trump presidencies?

Speaker 8 Like, I don't know what is pissing Trump off more: the fact that no one is letting go of the Epstein files, or that Obama refuses to be the adversary Trump wants him to be.

Speaker 12 This would be like if you took the movie Lion King, and right after Scar took over Pride Rock, Simba sang Hakuna Matata for the last 43 minutes of the film.

Speaker 26 Also, what an insane take. You're not allowed to have ketchup after the age of eight?

Speaker 26 Wait,

Speaker 26 Eight?

Speaker 15 Eight years old is too young for rules like that.

Speaker 28 Like at eight, I'm still wet in the bed, but now I have to be an Aoli man.

Speaker 7 For more, let's go live to Michael Costa.

Speaker 20 Costa, Costa, you're at the White House.

Speaker 9 What's the latest on the Epstein scandal?

Speaker 5 Sorry, Josh. It's actually pronounced the Obama scandal.

Speaker 5 But you're right, everyone is talking about it. What's that? Oh yeah, I'm just telling them about how everyone's talking about that Obama thing.
See Josh?

Speaker 5 Everyone's talking about that Obama thing, including that real guy over there.

Speaker 6 What's that?

Speaker 5 Oh, I'm just telling them about how you're a real guy over there.

Speaker 6 See?

Speaker 5 No one cares about Jeffrey epilepsy or whatever.

Speaker 9 Michael, the Obama thing is not a scandal.

Speaker 5 Not a scandal. And you call yourself the male Shonda Rhimes.

Speaker 20 No, I don't. Look.

Speaker 5 Look, ask anyone, Mr. Shonda, all right?

Speaker 5 The Epstein story is boring.

Speaker 5 It's just a sex scandal involving a billionaire league of pedophiles.

Speaker 5 What's interesting about that?

Speaker 5 The Obama scandal's the juicy one. It's a story about a possibly unnecessary reappraisal of intelligence gathering protocols concerning election interference.

Speaker 6 Woo!

Speaker 5 Man, I'm getting cold, hard, and blue just thinking about it.

Speaker 6 What's that? You're getting cold, hard, and blue too?

Speaker 29 What about you, Josh?

Speaker 6 You blue?

Speaker 16 No, I'm not.

Speaker 26 I'm neither cold, hard, nor blue.

Speaker 5 Not even a little because I'm a full papa smurf right now.

Speaker 5 Way more more than if I found out some new boring detail about how Trump was on Epstein's plane so much he left a permanent ass cheek groove on the seat.

Speaker 22 Hold on, is that true?

Speaker 10 Like, can you confirm that ass cheek groove detail?

Speaker 5 The only thing I can confirm is how truly boring it is, all right? I was losing my blue, but you know what got my blue back?

Speaker 5 Was Tulsi Gabbard declassifying a draft of a 2017 report arguing for more context for election interference conclusions released by a previous 2016 report.

Speaker 6 Now that's hot right there.

Speaker 5 Not some newly discovered video from 2004 of Trump and Epstein slurping up some same strand of spaghetti till they touch lips.

Speaker 6 Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 Oh it's boring. I'm so bored.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 12 Wait, Trump and Epstein did that?

Speaker 22 Michael, that is the story.

Speaker 26 No one gives a shit about the Obama thing. Why are you pushing this so hard?

Speaker 6 Fine.

Speaker 5 You know what, Josh? You're right.

Speaker 6 All right, you're right. You happy now?

Speaker 5 There's no Obama scandal. Is that what you want me to say? That the Epstein scandal is way more exciting than the Obama scandal, which is boring and isn't even real? That there's no Obama scandal.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 isn't that kind of a scandal? Why isn't there an Obama scandal? What is he hiding? Josh, we figured it out. You're a genius.

Speaker 26 You and me are blue as malls right now, Josh. Come on.
We got it.

Speaker 20 No one's blue. Michael Costa, everybody.

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Speaker 13 My guest tonight is a recording artist making her late-night television debut whose new EP is called Backroads. Please welcome Samar Sin.

Speaker 13 So, first of all, thank you so much for being here. Absolutely.
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 13 Like, when I found out that I was hosting, you were the first person that I was like, we have to get her as a guest and I want to talk to her.

Speaker 38 I so appreciate that. I so appreciate that.
Me and my mom, we send TikToks back and forth, and we're just all up and down throughout your TikTok all the time.

Speaker 38 So, the fact that you even were familiar with my music beforehand, and when I found out that, like, we got invited and stuff, it was just like she was over the moon. I I was super excited.

Speaker 6 So yeah, I'm really happy to be here. Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 13 So I think there's something that happens when an artist comes out and they have incredibly interesting and creative work where everybody's like, oh, this person's like the next big thing.

Speaker 13 This person is this, this, that, and the other. And I think that like

Speaker 13 I have not come across someone whose work has been more like the real deal than yours. Like when I've been listening to your music and everything,

Speaker 13 there's something that

Speaker 13 is so special about your beat selection, your intention

Speaker 13 with your lyrics, and the way that you express yourself where we're just meeting now, but I feel like I know you. Like I feel like we're friends from listening to the music over and over again.

Speaker 13 And I'm sure you're getting that experience all the time.

Speaker 13 But can you tell me about what process is like for you? Like

Speaker 13 what leads you to make the work that you make?

Speaker 38 Yeah, I music was never like a I wasn't like a kid like yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do music. I'm gonna be this rapper or whatever.

Speaker 38 Like I wanted to be a little businesswoman and I wanted to do like the traditional rap, you know, and

Speaker 38 I wanted to wear a pencil skirt.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 38 it's just something that I kind of stumbled into and it was very therapeutic. And so I try to come, I try to pull from very raw and like real places.

Speaker 38 And every time I'm going in there, I want to confront something new.

Speaker 38 Like a lot of my music is internal conflicts and like the ways that I see the world and trying to figure out how I can communicate that. And,

Speaker 38 you know, pulling from very honest places is where I try to come from. I think people connect to stuff that's real and like raw.
So

Speaker 38 me pulling from that place, I think that's where the connection is for a lot of people. And I feel connected too when people are like, yeah, when you just said that, I was like, stop it.

Speaker 13 No, for real. I find like

Speaker 13 what you do and your work and the way that you think, because I've seen some of your other interviews and stuff, and it is endlessly interesting. Thank you.
And

Speaker 13 it's a type of expression that I think builds on, it makes people more curious about what you're doing. Like when you listen to Magnolia Rain or something, and there's something about

Speaker 13 whether it's the video or the music, it makes you be like, oh,

Speaker 14 not only do I want to be friends with you, I want me and my friends to have this experience.

Speaker 13 Because you see you traveling and

Speaker 13 you see the growth and everything, you performing and how much fun you're having and everything.

Speaker 13 And so with this new project, because I remember the drive home, I remember the night the drive home came out and I listened to it all the way through twice because I was just like,

Speaker 13 every step of it just felt like so seamless to the next thing.

Speaker 13 When it came to... from drive home to back roads, what's your intention with the new EP back roads that you may have differing from the drive home?

Speaker 38 Yeah, I think with the new one, one, I wanted it to be a little bit more lighthearted. The drive home was very serious, very like warm tones,

Speaker 38 very dark, and it got to me performing it.

Speaker 6 And I was like, you know, this is a little,

Speaker 6 this is dragging a little bit. Like, let me

Speaker 6 too serious for me. So

Speaker 38 with Backroads, I did want to bring up the sonics a little bit. I wanted it to sound like you were having a good time when you listened to it and not like, I'm in a therapy session right now.
So

Speaker 38 with that being said, it was kind of like

Speaker 38 just more lighthearted and eventually the delusional theme kind of came through. And Backroads was kind of my take on,

Speaker 38 you know, the hyper normalization that's going on

Speaker 38 in the world right now. And

Speaker 38 you know, it's kind of like taking the long way around the back roads instead of facing the issues head on and figuring out how to solve them and get through them together it's like instead i'm gonna go to work and i'm gonna drink my coffee and i'm gonna pretend like this is not happening and um

Speaker 6 it's

Speaker 38 really weird yes so um it was me confronting why I felt like that,

Speaker 38 what that was in my own self and where I was doing it in my own life, but then also like kind of seeing where my neighbor was doing it too, or my

Speaker 38 community or the society that I'm a part of, like how we're all kind of like kind of ignoring what's happening because we don't know what to do.

Speaker 6 Sure, sure.

Speaker 13 Yeah. I mean, do you do you find that there's one particular thing that you think is the most prevalent in this like hyper normalization, like the thing, like the real elephant in the room?

Speaker 38 I mean,

Speaker 38 there's a lot. I mean, the list goes on and on.

Speaker 38 I think it's our duty as humans to be really like loving to one another and compassionate and accepting and inclusive and

Speaker 38 respectful.

Speaker 38 And I feel like we're losing sight of all of that. So all of the work that we've done over decades and decades to be a country first, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 38 That is all of those things is being undone by,

Speaker 38 you know, the snap of very grubby fingers. And I feel like

Speaker 38 as a country, we see it right now with immigration

Speaker 38 and we see it right now with even like, you know,

Speaker 38 the rights of women and you know different communities, LGBTQ.

Speaker 38 And

Speaker 38 as a country and even the world, we're seeing it right now with the wars that are going on.

Speaker 38 There's genocide, there's like famine, there's extreme like levels of poverty, and we're not loving on our neighbors. And I just feel like that's whack.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, for sure.

Speaker 6 100%.

Speaker 6 I

Speaker 13 I think that when I'm listening to your music, sometimes it takes me that fifth listen to kind of catch something.

Speaker 13 And that's one thing that I really love is how intentional you are with everything that you're doing. And does it ever annoy you when that like goes over people's heads?

Speaker 38 No.

Speaker 38 I choose the cryptic route sometimes. And I kind of like, as a listener of music, I love lyrics first.
And not everybody's like that.

Speaker 38 Normally, it's like, oh, I like the way I feel listening to this or whatever. And then you go back and you listen to it.
It's like, that's why. Because it's saying, you know, exactly what I needed.

Speaker 38 I kind of like, it makes me feel like a clever, clever girl.

Speaker 6 When somebody goes back and they're like, oh, she says so-and-so, that's crazy. I'm like, yup.
Yeah.

Speaker 38 Some people that don't get it, though, they be in my comments a little bit. Like, that doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 6 I'm like, girl, go read a book, baby. Go read a book.
Because yes, it does.

Speaker 13 You got kind of your start in poetry on top of then getting into music.

Speaker 13 And what is it that you find is the difference between writing your poetry and then knowing that it's going to be put to music? Because I think you so elegantly put like

Speaker 13 head to pen to page to put out the idea.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 38 Yeah, that one's interesting. It's not a huge difference.
You know, you do have to consider like vocal production and sonics for sure because at the same time, like

Speaker 38 me personally, and I know a lot of people don't want, they don't just want to get lyrical miracled through the whole entire record. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 38 Like there's, there's such thing as being a good rapper and there's such thing as like making a good song. And they're not always, they don't always coexist, you know? So,

Speaker 38 you know, I was pulling from a lot of influences to like people that have a good balance of something that has narrative and has substance, but also that that jams because I don't want to listen to music all the time and be like

Speaker 38 lyrical, miracle, da-da-da-da-da, spiritual. I'm like, I don't, I don't want to hear that all the time.
Like, I want to be able to move to this and I want it to make me feel good. So, um,

Speaker 38 so yeah, the jump was figuring out where to shut up. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 38 Like, where to stop talking, where to let there be space, where to let, you know, the song, the, the actual music come through and like shine.

Speaker 38 Um, whereas poetry, the goal is to be lyrical, miracle, spiritual. So, you know, you can lead with that.
But yeah, music has to be music too.

Speaker 38 Like, you don't have to fill every space with talking, you know?

Speaker 13 No, absolutely. As someone who talks a lot, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 I love to yak.

Speaker 6 I love to yak.

Speaker 6 I love to yak.

Speaker 13 And you're gonna be performing tonight, Hardheaded. Can you tell us about the track?

Speaker 38 Yeah, so hard-headed was on the backrooms EP.

Speaker 38 That was the one that was like addressing it on a more wider scale for me, like the delusional aspect we are so privileged to be able to lean on our delusions because it's not right in our face every single day um we're not having to deal with a lot of stuff that people in the world are having to deal with and so we can be delusional and that's a really like privileged space to be in so um

Speaker 38 This is me kind of like, I guess, calling that out.

Speaker 38 And yeah, delusion is the theme for sure.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Yeah. No, I think that's incredible.

Speaker 13 This is my first week hosting, and I was so excited to have you on. And like I said, listening to your music over and over again, I feel like I already know you.
I feel like we're already friends.

Speaker 13 I was wondering, instead of just like a regular handshake and then we have a wave of the camera, if you would mind making like a secret handshake with me now. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Okay.
Be gentle with me. I don't want no one else to pop off.
Yeah, no, no, no. You're good.
You're good.

Speaker 13 I got you. Okay.
I'm thinking, okay, what if we did like, okay, go in like this and then this.

Speaker 6 Okay, period.

Speaker 13 What did I do? And then.

Speaker 6 Team, team, team, are you ready? Okay, ready?

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 13 Thank you so much for being our guest tonight.

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Speaker 25 Concerned? I mean, obviously, we've seen the conservatives shut down the house floor routinely. You saw that you had to pull the rule because of fear of Epstein votes.

Speaker 34 No, we don't have any fear.

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Speaker 34 No, Reese, no. There's no fear.

Speaker 6 No, there's no fear.

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Select locations only while supplies last. See Lowe's.com for more details.